Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #391 - Joe Biden Implicated In Hunter Scandal, It Was JOE'S BANK ACCOUNT w/Wokal Distance
Episode Date: October 13, 2021Tim, Ian, Luke, and Lydia join critical theory critic and commentator Wokal Distance to express lack of surprise over Joe Biden's clear implication in his son's rank corruption, the way the Southwest ...Airlines CEO has chosen to place the blame on the president for his pilots' choice to not fly Southwest planes, the record-breaking number of employees who have chosen to quit their jobs, the governor of Texas' choice to enforce civil rights law in the face of vaccine madness, the win of NYC healthcare workers against the city's draconian vaccine mandate, and the Walgreens stores that are closing after a massive surge in shoplifting. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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An exclusive report just dropped over in the Daily Mail.
Joe Biden could be embroiled in the FBI probe into Hunter's finances.
Experts say emails reveal they shared bank accounts and they paid each other's bills.
And wow, that's a huge red flag, especially if Hunter Biden is doing deals and he's being
flown out on Air Force to buy his dad to China for private equity.
And they share a bank account.
Yikes.
Now, I don't know the full details of what's going on between their bank account.
Maybe they got something worked out.
Maybe there's an entity that actually controls the account and then they just both have access.
But either way, if they're using the money interchangeably, then yeah, the big guy's
getting getting kickbacks on his son's deals.
More and more information is coming out.
We're seeing photos of Joe Biden meeting with Hunter Biden's partners. The lies are just
unraveling. I think most of us realize it. Most of us knew the story before we even got to this
point. And of course, this is why Twitter was shutting the story down back during the election,
because it was really, really bad for Joe. And now we're stuck with him. But regular people are, they're fed up. I mean, we've got 4.3 million resignations in August. We've got shortages of
basically everything, cargo ports, railways, everything is jammed up, trucker shortages,
and it's all under Joe Biden. Things are not returning to normal. And it seems like
they like it. They're okay with it. So now we are seeing Joe Biden with the worst aggregate
approval rating of his nine months, and he's already at 43. When Donald Trump was being
impeached, he actually had the highest approval rating of his term. So I can't understand how
someone could be so despised at this point and not be impeached when Trump could be.
I should say I do get it.
The media was just after Trump, no matter what he did.
And Biden can do no wrong.
But here we are.
Sooner or later, people have to wake up and realize what's happening.
So we're gonna go through this.
We got a bunch of news.
We have a major scandal in Loudoun County with these parents who have been challenging
critical race theory.
Turns out we've got to keep this one family friendly.
This is a disgusting story.
A man whose daughter was abused in a bathroom by a transgender student tried to bring the
issue up and was tackled and dragged out.
The scandal was covered up, and now it is all being revealed thanks to reporting by
The Daily Wire.
So we're going to get into all this stuff.
Joining us today is Wocal Distance.
I'm going to need you to just introduce yourself and explain who you are for everybody.
My name is Wocal Distance. That's my internet moniker. You can find me at Wocal underscore Distance, I'm going to need you to just introduce yourself and explain who you are for everybody. My name is Wocal Distance.
That's my internet moniker.
You can find me at Wocal underscore Distance on Twitter.
I'm a visiting fellow at the Center for Renewing America, and I work in the area of postmodernism and critical theory.
So you have these threads all over Twitter just breaking down critical race theory, critical theory, gender theory, all that stuff, basically wokeness.
Yes, that's right.
I want to find, dig up, and explain the intellectual and academic roots of what we call wokeness and the woke movement so that people can understand exactly what they're dealing with when woke people say things to them, which to the rest of us might not seem to make a lot of sense, but how within their own
internal system, it can be coherent. Some people, one easy way to explain is you've done work with
James Lindsay. Yes. Yeah. James Lindsay is a good friend of mine. We were at a retreat some time
ago. The pictures are out there with some other people and James is an excellent source. He's
helped his book, theories was was very
instructive and him and i go back for a few years now and we've been working on this problem he's
excellent we got a lot to talk about we also got lucard kowski we got way too much to talk about
holy cow was today a quote good day we're finding out that the president might might have inadvertently
funded his son's 2018 drug and prostitution binge.
We're finding out Texas is banning all vaccine mandates by any entity.
Judge in New York is refusing the religious exemption to health care workers.
He's actually approving it.
There's the freedom flu going around.
Netflix refuses to remove Dave Chappelle.
Holy cow.
I mean, it's just an absolutely
crazy day and we got a lot to talk about we've been working on the studio so we've got a bunch
of stuff that uh that we're putting up that we're fixing and then i come up here and i'm like okay
so what's what's the news for the day obviously we have the joe biden's approval rating and then
there's the story joe biden shared a bank account with his son and i'm like wow that basically means
it was his kickback it's like that's it i don't know
where you go from there when the president himself is getting money in these kickbacks and they're
just flat out saying it so yeah big news huh there's a lot of implications here but yeah i'm
here i'm lucard ask you if we are changed at oregon i have a youtube channel that is we are
change so there's a vast reservoir of knowledge about to be released into this room. So I'm going to relax, sit back and enjoy the ride.
Yes.
Mr. Crossland here.
What's up?
Can I just add one thing to your Joe Biden bit?
If money was deposited that went into Joe Biden's bank account
or a bank account that Joe Biden had access to,
the question immediately becomes, from Watergate,
what did the president know and when
did he know it yeah i mean he clearly knows when money goes into his account oh no i didn't i
didn't know i was just using the bank out paying my bills with it while my son was actively taking
money from foreign governments and then i went to ukraine and got a prosecutor fired who was
investigating the son of my the company my son was was abort was a director. Yeah, I think we know where this is going.
We'll get into this stuff.
We'll get into it.
We'll save some of it.
We got Lydia pressing the buttons, of course.
I'm also here.
I'm attempting to more successfully push buttons tonight.
There are a lot more buttons to push than I had before, so wish me luck tonight.
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Let's get into this news.
This is big, big stuff.
We got the story from the Daily Mail.
Exclusive.
Joe Biden could become embroiled in the FBI's probe into Hunter's finances.
Experts say.
I love that.
Experts say.
Emails reveal they shared bank bank accounts paid each other's bills
and the president may have even funded his son's 2018 drug and prostitution binge
we're gonna be a little careful on this one because we try to be a family-friendly show but
uh when it comes to the president and his son it's anything but family-friendly from joe biden
touching children and sniffing them inappropriately to his son doing crack. I'm sorry, we can only cover up so much in an attempt to protect your
children's ears. The Daily Mail says President Joe Biden could become embroiled in an FBI
investigation. Let me just stop and say, yeah, right. As if they're going to do anything.
Emails recovered by DailyMail.com from Hunter's abandoned laptop.
His between his business, him and between Hunter and Eric Schwerin,
his business partner at Rosemont Seneca,
show Schwerin was working on Joe's taxes,
discussing the father and son,
paying each other's household bills,
and even fielding requests for a book deal
for the then vice president.
It is unclear why Schwerin
had the intimate role
in the vice president's affairs
rather than government officials in the office of the vice of the vice president hunters claim that he and his father
shared a bank account also raises serious questions whether funds from the alleged joint account were
used for hunters may 2018 week-long bender well look if you have a bank account it's got a dollar
in it and then someone puts a dollar in it the money is mixed up now and then if you take a
dollar out yeah sorry we don't play that game this is how like you know when the feds go after
money laundering you can't just be like it's one bank account but all of our money is different
they're gonna be like nah you're mixing it all together they say last december hunter admitted
in a public statement that he was under federal investigation over his tax affairs all right let's
let's slow down for a second so now we're we're learning Joe Biden sharing a bank account with his son, Hunter Biden, on the board of Burisma, getting paid,
what was it, $83,000 per month. Yeah. Burisma being investigated, or I should say,
Mykolas Lachevsky, the founder of it, being investigated by the prosecutor, Victor Shokin.
Joe Biden goes to Ukraine and says, if you don't fire the prosecutor, you don't get the,
was it a billion dollars?
Yeah, it was huge.
And so they say, OK, fine.
They fire the prosecutor.
Official narrative from the U.S. establishment mainstream medias.
Oh, they fired him because he wasn't investigating this guy.
So Hunter Biden, who has no business being on the board of this company, a company that's under investigation, getting paid 83 grand, sharing a bank account with his dad.
His dad then goes in, fires a prosecutor who was investigating the company.
We know this from Matt Taibbi's reporting.
Sounds like Joe Biden was protecting his own assets by going to Ukraine, getting this guy
fired.
It wasn't about corruption.
It wasn't about anything other than his own corruption.
So what do we do with information like that?
I'm shrugging for those that are watching.
Do a TV show and talk about it.
Do a TV show.
Fortunately, we already have the TV show, so let's talk about it.
We can all shake our fists in the air and then tomorrow wake up because nothing changes?
No, this dude's a scumbag, and I think this is going to be big news.
They tried to hide the laptop scandal with the Post story.
Yeah, you brought up a very important point here, Ian.
The fact that there was so much censorship, especially around the Hunter Biden email stories, because this, I mean, the Daily Mail says that they got this story from the emails.
So the fact that there was so much suppression shows that they actually do care about what the public thinks about them.
They actually do need the public to acquiesce.
And there's a large number of voters that said that if they knew about these emails,
they would have voted differently.
So this, of course, has a lot of implications.
I mean, we know he lied about the ATF form when it comes to buying firearms.
He lied about a lot of other things as well that he should have been you know kept you know be held responsible for liable for i mean the guy is on video committing acts there's photos of him
committing acts that we can't even mention here on youtube let me let me let me read this portion
of the story because y'all's jaws are gonna hit the floor no hunter and schwirin privately discussed
the potential to ingratiate themselves with quote ce CEOs of the major banks if they helped arrange the request.
This is to Senator Robert Menendez, who requested VP Biden host the U.S.
Spain's Council 2010 annual meeting as official naval observatory residents in D.C.
They contacted Schwerin rather than Joe's White House office.
Interestingly, we then see this. Hunter complained that half of his salary went to paying his father's bills
while he was VP, casting doubt on Joe's previous claim that he's never benefited from his son's
business dealings. In a 2019 text to his daughter, Naomi, he wrote, I hope you all can do what I did
and pay for everything for this entire family for 30 years. It's really hard, but don't worry.
Unlike pop, I won't make you give me half your salary. So that's previously uncovered information.
Now we have Joe Biden sharing a bank account with his son.
This is, let me explain something to y'all.
I have, I have an accountant and I'm like, Hey, what can I do to help, you know, help
my family out?
And he goes, nothing, nothing.
You cannot do anything special for family for the most part, for the most part.
There's certain things like friends and family with investment stuff.
But if you want to give someone money, it's taxed.
It's either a gift up to a certain limit.
Right now, I believe the limit is $15,000.
And after that, you've got to pay taxes on it.
If they're splitting bank accounts and they're as wealthy as – we know they're wealthy.
Then this is – what is this, tax avoidance?
How much money went into this bank account?
I don't know for sure.
I don't know for sure.
And I think the issue is, as soon as they mix their finances,
questions have to be raised about any and all of their finances.
All of them, yeah.
I was going to say, I heard a really familiar name in this story,
and that was Bob Menendez.
Do you guys remember Bob Menendez and what he got in trouble for something about the dominican republic and some kind of young women young
ladies yes we'll put it that way so as far as i'm concerned i don't see anything bad ever happening
to the bidens based on what happened to bob menendez aka nothing i don't think anything's
gonna happen how do you look it's kind of it's kind of funny when you know under trump they were
like trump won't be investigated because bill barr is his lackey and it's never going to happen.
And I'm sitting here like, and Merrick Garland, what's he going to do?
You think Merrick Garland is going to go after Joe Biden and be like, lock him up?
He's going to be like, hey, Joe, they're talking about you.
Can I have some money?
There you go.
Yep.
I think it's also hilarious that this is the same president lecturing parents about how they should raise their children.
I mean, are you kidding me?
Love low.
No, no, it's fair.
Let's be serious here.
I mean, if you're Hunter Biden's father, you can't be telling other people how to raise
your children.
You can't be telling people to, you know, giving them specific because he came out and
said, you know, if you're if you're not following the science, if you're not taking these procedures,
you're not raising your children right. And again, there's a lot
to say about that. But there's just so much corruption, so much
dirtiness. I mean, we have the flights to China. We have the business dealings
with Ukraine. We have so many companies just intertwined. And yesterday
on the show, I specifically said, sorry, I'm having like headphones problems and I keep
hearing myself back. So I keep getting distracted.
It's just weird hearing your own voice.
But there's so many instances.
And as I said yesterday, you know, this country has been sold for pennies on the dollar.
And the way you buy influence, the way that you buy off politicians, the way that our system works is incredibly easy for a third party to come in
and to manipulate this for their own benefit in so many different ways. Having dirt, having videos
of Biden doing unspeakable things with women, with relatives, with family members. I mean,
that's top notch, top level extortion level material that could be leveraged that we knew that we know many foreign
countries had before now this is what we know what don't we know about what wasn't in the emails that
we still don't know about that many that maybe foreign countries have that could be using to
exploit the current president of the united states you know how i feel about this story i feel like
you know we get this bombshell revelation oh joe biden sharing banks
like they're funding each other and joe biden potentially paying for hookers and stuff i feel
like i just burnt bart burst into the room and i'm like everybody listen joe biden's a corrupt
and everyone's like oh we know what is this what are you even talking about and i'm like but we
have the story and they're like yeah whatever what do you do what are we going to see a a red
wave in 2022 maybe an impeachment the dude needs to be impeached please yeah then we're going to
have you know president kamala and her child actors that she hires laughing to the camera as
she like does weird strange bizarre videos promoting space and looking at the craters of
the moon for some reason.
It's reassuring, you know, with all the economic calamities, with so much problems that the White House is spending money on child actors to convey people about looking at the moon.
I mean, are you freaking kidding me?
They're so out of touch with reality.
They hope no one's paying attention.
They want you to feel like, hey, there's so much corruption.
It's just OK.
It's the new norm. It's not. It's paying attention. They want you to feel like, hey, there's so much corruption. It's just OK. It's the new norm.
It's not.
It's not OK.
And I think there's a reason what Ian brought up here, that censorship happened of these emails.
The censorship was crucial.
I think it would have made a big impact in the elections.
And I think it's going to make an impact later down the line in this political spectrum when people look at the president, look at the clear corruption, look at the clear dereliction of duty, look at the cleared mess left by him and be like,
how could we not seen this happening?
Well, because of big tech social online censorship.
I would like to make two points.
I would like to make two points about that.
Guys in the chat are going nuts about my not being loud enough,
so speaking up.
All right.
I would like to point out,
I would like to say that Jean Baudrillard is going to be spinning in his grave over that stunt that Kamala pulled.
Absolutely unbelievable because every ounce of that is fake.
The whole thing is a prefabricated commercial where you're supposed to bring people in so that they can – Kamala has a chance to go out and impress them.
So it's a setup to begin with.
But it's not even a real setup.
It's supposed to be a setup of a spontaneous moment,
but it's not even a real setup of a spontaneous moment.
It's a fake setup of a spontaneous moment.
It's two levels of fake.
It's a fake of a fake.
It's a copy of a copy.
So they have actors who are paid to act like they're real people
so that Kamala can come in and act like it's a spontaneous moment that's not set up and prefabricated ahead of time.
That they auditioned for.
Yes.
So you had to audition for a spontaneous moment.
What a creepy fake reality.
Who's the last genuine president?
I guess Trump was not.
No, he wasn't.
He wasn't genuine either.
The way he said.
Now I'm getting that weird tinny sound in my headphones.
The way he said, uh, Ghislaine, he hopes wishes are well.
I don't know.
I think Trump was very straightforward and he just bluntly said that and many other things.
Maybe Trump.
Before that, Jimmy Carter.
Because Reagan was full of it.
I try to watch old interviews with Reagan and he's just like smiling and like, oh, they're going to.
He was an actor.
It's all theater.
It's all a show.
That's why they're literally building a stage for joe biden to
not be in the white house in that's that's as it's it's played on like like a theater yes
everything we're seeing is just horse and pony it's all a showcase it's all meant to fool you
into this larger kind of illusion that they actually have power over you when they when
they desperately need to have that conviction. Well, we have more news, ladies and gentlemen.
Joe Biden's aggregate approval rating is just getting massively worse, breaking a new record high disapproval and a new record low approval.
Wow.
This is just, it's getting bad.
Disapproval is at 52.3.
His approval is down to 43.
And look at this major spike.
Wow. Regular people are starting to wake up to what's going on.
Joe Biden is bad.
He is corrupt.
His leadership is failing this country.
We've got a southern border crisis, an economic crisis, a jobs crisis, a mass resignation crisis, an inflation crisis, stagflation, shrinkflation.
Just any kind of flation.
Just make up the word.
We got all of them.
Enough to go around for
everybody it looks like that inflection point's right about when he came out with this mandate
nonsense it's true yeah right around the time he announced the man when the mandate started
becoming big there was a major swap and by the way those aren't actual mandates osha has not
approved these things yet right it was his announcement of a rule to be and osha has not
implemented any rules and there's no executive order.
Yet we're seeing all these businesses just go along with it.
This is what I think.
A lot of people anti-elected Trump.
As we mentioned over and over again on the show that there was that article, just stay alive, Joe Biden.
And this is what you get when you don't have a legitimate administration.
And what I mean by that is an administration that is actually going to do the job, that is actually having the meetings.
Joe Biden is probably asleep with a burlap blanket on his laps in the sun snoring all day,
while Kamala is just like, what do I got to do to make it seem like I'm working?
Give me some child actors or something, and I'll just pretend, and then I'm done, right?
That's where we're at.
You are here.
Yep.
So Biden was unelected.
And we're seeing the result of choosing people based on color of their skin and their gender and sexual orientation.
We're seeing Pete Buttigieg being totally incompetent.
Kamala Harris just cackling her way through being a terrible vice president.
It's insane.
Cackling her way through the vice presidency.
It's so bad.
It's so bad.
But this is what happens when you hire people based on checking a demographic box.
They're totally incompetent, and everyone's shocked by this.
It's also kind of what happens when you treat the political realm like a reality TV show.
They want monkey dance, monkey dance, and then they get entertainers and stupid people in chart doing the dance.
People that are willing to do the dance do the dance, and people everyone else builds spaceships so who's building a spaceship is there
mr musk can i take a chance to just drive something home yes we are living in a post-modern era i keep
screaming about this on twitter and this is how i kind of built my following we are now living in
post-modernism that why does it make sense that is why it's not coherent. It doesn't need to make sense.
This is postmodernism.
I always say that Trump is our first postmodern president.
He was the first president of the fully postmodern age, the age of narrative where truth doesn't matter.
So you can see that in the entire media circus around Trump where even the fact checks aren't real.
Right.
Right.
The fact checks are not to check if the facts are
real they're to check if they're the appropriate facts that they approve of right are these approved
facts are these the facts that are helpful to us right so that's what goes on there and then
as we as we've moved through the biden presidency everything about it is fake they built a fake room
so that he could pretend to be in the White House.
We had Kamala bring child actors on so she could pretend to be surprised and have an authentic moment.
Right.
And to be genuine, allegedly.
Yeah.
So we had a fake genuine moment.
Yeah.
That's great.
We're going to stage a genuine moment for the people. That'll be good, yeah.
So that the people can have a genuine moment to look at while they're watching President Biden get vaccined in in the white house fake room in the fake room in the white house this is this is all
simulation it's it's completely it's it's an era of complete and utter inauthenticity so you've got
there is nothing about it which touches reality at any point it's entirely staged it doesn't refer to anything
nothing about it is rooted in the real world experience of anybody that's why you have
actors who audition for it it's not just they brought actors in and said have a good time or
brought actors in and said here are your lines they brought actors in and said, you have to audition for the genuineness and surprise.
How do you audition for a surprise?
How do you audition to be surprised?
What does that even mean?
Well, actors probably do it all the time in movies or whatever.
Yeah.
I think a better word than simulation is simulacrum.
Yes.
The simulation implies there's a functioning system and and we're trying – is it real?
No, it's a caricature.
And I wanted to make sure I got the definition right.
An insubstantial replication.
It is very obvious.
You know, it's like a caricature.
We're looking at a caricature of an administration.
Yeah, I would agree with that.
I think James O'Keefe really characterized this well
when he compared what's happening now to 1984
when they're asking you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears.
So I think we're at that particular phase right now
where literally we have evidence, we have photos, we have documentation,
we have witnesses, we have whistleblowers coming forward,
screaming, saying, hey, there's some awful things happening in this world.
There's some really bad people doing horrible things.
And then the mainstream media is like, it's weather.
There's bad weather.
And regurgitating all this nonsense and lies that is absolutely nonsensical and anyone paying attention to anything that's happening is just an insult to their intelligence.
I got a feeling that because it seems like since the internet, I started noticing them
lying and creating a mass narrative that's not real.
But before the internet, I never realized it.
But I think they were just doing it then anyway.
They're just using ABC News to push it.
And now at least it's obvious that there's no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
And it's not just child actors that they're hiring.
They're hiring social media influencers. They're hiring doctors.
They're hiring other actors. They're hiring everyone to kind of prop them up as this kind
of legitimate force. And then when we really look at it, a lot of it is phony. A lot of it is based
on lies. A lot of it is based on here. We'll give you this money. Just say these lines. And sadly,
some people do that. Do you guys know the story? We've talked about a lot kierkegaard's clown you know he comes out
and he's like there's a fire in the back and then everyone starts laughing and he's like no seriously
there's a fire they laugh even harder and he says i think that's how the world will end you know
whatever it kind of feels like it's the other way around you know there's there's a small group of
us and we're sitting in the audience and on TV is all of these people that are all
pretending like there's no fire and we're the ones yelling back like there is a fire and they're like
no and they just they're just they're putting on a show they're they're performing it kind of feels
like we we now exist with a government of people who are basically like what time is it um what do
I have to do to pretend to
do the job so i can get paid and go home kamala harris comes out with some child actors biden
builds a fake set you know what you know what you why i don't understand the fake set but i can say
biden likes to go home a lot sure does no but none of these people want to be working
well i hire people who didn't who weren't right for the job this is what you get to be fair i
sympathize.
I understand people don't want to be at work most of the time.
I can't really relate because I love my job.
But I will say that this very much to me looks like a case of bread and circuses.
And when you're seeing it in your politics, I think that's unsettling.
That's a serious issue.
So can I throw something out?
Yeah.
I'd like to toss something out. I think what we're seeing is what I like to call the strawberry slurpee of a presidency.
Okay, so here's what I mean.
Suppose we go back in time and we find some original, natural, organic strawberries.
We pick them, we eat them, they taste pretty good.
Fast forward to the 1960s, and all of a sudden we can farm strawberries, and we only
take the biggest, reddest, juiciest strawberries for consumption. We'll call that a productive
copy. Well, then someone comes along and says, hey, we're getting those big, juicy strawberries.
Well, we can make a strawberry candy out of it. Okay, well, then we go a little further,
and someone else says, yeah, we can make a strawberry candy, but we're going to add some
sugar. Okay, then someone else comes along and says, yeah, well, we'll make a strawberry candy, but we're going to add some sugar. Okay, then someone else comes along and says, yeah, well, we'll make a strawberry candy,
but we'll use corn syrup instead of sugar.
Then someone else says, we'll make a soft drink of the candy.
And then somebody else comes along and says, we are going to make a strawberry slurpee
that is flavored like the soda, that is flavored like the candy, that is flavored like the
straw.
And all of a sudden, you're so far away from the original thing that
they're not even comparable.
The flavor of the strawberry Slurpee
is nothing like the flavor of the
organic thing.
What we have right now for a
presidency is
nothing like what it's supposed to be. It's
entirely, entirely what they
think people expect a presidency
to look like. That's why they have to build a set so they can get the perfect angle
so that they can create the image of what they think people expect a presidency to be
at the cost of what an actual presidency might actually be if one was really occurring.
I do got some bad news to add to that.
I think raspberry might be a better example
because you guys know where they get the flavoring for a raspberry artificial flavor.
Beaver.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's beaver.
Yeah.
Castor.
Yeah.
It's the beaver.
I think it is.
Beaver butt.
So that's perfect.
You think you're eating this delicious.
It's strawberry.
They say you're eating a strawberry.
You take a bite.
You're like, hmm.
Yeah.
It's kind of like strawberry.
Castorium.
And they're like, it's not real.
It's actually it's actually just from beaver butt. Right. That's Biden's presidency. Yeah. It's kind of like strawberry. Castoreum. And they're like, it's not real. It's actually just from beaver butt.
That's right.
That's Biden's presidency.
You're eating some artificial GMO Monsanto gene spliced strawberry shake that doesn't taste anything like it was supposed to.
And it came from a beaver butt.
But you're convinced that this is normal since this is what they gave you since you were a little small child.
Even worse about that is that the flavor is not the point.
It's what you – the nutrition you get from a strawberry.
So now we've got mutilated disflavor, and you're not even getting any of the nutrition that you need from the valid strawberry presidency.
It's not just Biden.
It's everything.
It's the whole government.
It's Congress.
It's the Senate.
I think they built that room for implementing a special teleprompter that's really big that they can't fit in the white house yeah just some kind
of new medical advice that like wakes him up and zaps him or there has to be some there has to be
some reason some kind of official explanation he's got a gigantic series of cables in his back
that go down into a massive power system it's a giant reactor to keep him alive he's robo biden
that would make more you remember when that would make more sense. You remember when Franklin Delano Roosevelt
started,
he got paralyzed,
I think,
was it polio
that took his leg,
his walk?
Wasn't he always paralyzed?
No, not in the beginning
of his presidency.
And they hid it
for like,
I don't know how long,
two years or something,
they hid it.
So what I imagine with Biden,
I mean,
the guy is decrepit.
If that's the right word,
he's like almost falling over.
That is the right word, yes. Like if falling over. It's a somersault.
That is the right word, yes.
Like if you listen to 10 years ago, are they hiding it?
They've done it before?
Yeah, I don't know.
But I want to go back to your point about the nutrition thing because I think it's just a perfect point.
All of the stuff that should be going on in Congress isn't.
None of it's going on.
But if you go to Congress, it sure looks like
there's stuff going. You've got people in suits walking around, very important people. People
are exchanging business cards. There's Capitol Police. There's a lot of people that are walking
around looking very, very busy. They're holding votes on things. Nothing's going on. It's entirely
fake. This is Baudrillard's point. And this is why i say we're living in a post-modern moment we are
living in a time of the image is what matters the substance is almost utterly irrelevant if it's
even seen at all we know they're all lying is what really really makes me just so sick of all of this
let me let me pull up the story we had another story check this out you guys are gonna love it southwest ceo says he never wanted a covet vaccine mandate but biden
forced his hand is that what biden is he's the patsy for for the ceos for the establishment
they're like i'm imagining the ceo sitting there and he's like he's trying to do this vaccine
mandate and like the ceo from some other company like you know aa's there and it's like everybody's
mad at me what do i do do? Oh, just blame Biden.
What do you mean?
Of course.
You don't blame Biden.
You're not blaming Biden for your problems?
Oh, Biden's our fall guy.
Yeah, all of the problems in the economy right now, everything bad happening.
You just say Biden did it.
Okay.
And he comes out and he's like, I didn't want a vaccine mandate.
Biden made me do it.
Even though Biden didn't make anyone do it because there's no actual executive order or OSHA rule.
But it's a convenient out for a guy who's collapsing in his approval rating for the Southwest CEO to be like, I don't know, everybody
seems to be mad at the guy. I let him take the fall for me. I think this is a continuation of
the same thing. This is them wanting the appearance of the thing without the actual thing. They want
the appearance of bowing to the superior, you know, having some kind of responsibility to what
Biden has told them to do, even though they haven't actually made a law or rule or even a mandate. So they're just taking
the appearance. They don't really care about what's actually true. Look at this. Let me read
this. They say, quote, I've never been in favor of corporations imposing that kind of mandate.
I'm not in favor of that. Never have been. But the executive order from President Biden mandates all
federal employees and then all federal contractors, which covers all major airlines, have to have a vaccine mandate in place by December 8th.
So we're working through that.
Now, that sounds a bit circuitous.
There is the federal employee mandate, as my understanding, but this covers all the
airlines.
That's I didn't know that Southwest said last week that that's 56,000 employees need to
be vaccinated by December 8th in order to keep working for the airline under federal mandate. Southwest announcement came a few days after other
carriers, American Airlines, Alaskan Airlines, and JetBlue, informed employees of the need
to adhere to federal vaccine rules. In August, before the Biden administration's action,
United Airlines and Hawaiian Airlines instituted COVID vaccine requirements for their staffs.
United said earlier this month that more than 96% of its 67,000 U.S.
employees have shared proof of vaccination after its late September deadline.
What was the amount of employees they had before this was announced?
And also, just to throw it back to what Ian said, around August is when Joe Biden announced
the vaccine mandates, and that's when his approval rating flipped the inflection point,
when all of a sudden people were like, I don't like this guy.
Because I'll tell you, I mentioned this on the show several times.
I know somebody who is like Biden and waving Biden flags. And now he's freaking out
because he's like, my job is going to force me to do this and I don't want to.
Yeah. Some people are saying that the Southwest CEO is in the World Economic Forum,
is a part of that group. And it's also just very convenient to that, that he's just
lumping everything on Biden. He doesn't have to comply. There's a lot of other people.
There's a lot of unions.
There's a lot of big companies saying,
we're not going to comply with this.
And there was even a statement saying that Southwest
will not be using the Texas exemption
as a way to implement this vaccine passport,
this vaccine mandate, which they're imposing.
There's also a very interesting date that they're setting, not just with Southwest,
but many other corporations are setting the date of December 8th as the deadline.
It's all kind of done in unison, which is oddly strange as well.
But again, no one is forcing Southwest to do this.
It's an executive order.
Executive decrees are argued.
They go to court.
There's a lot of very important court battles.
So he's moving forward with this.
And clearly a lot of his employees, a lot of the people who work for him, aren't happy with this.
And they're protesting in their own kind of unique way that we're seeing with this freedom.
I don't think it's protest.
I think kind of.
I think, yes, there's there's there's a very kind of blurred line here because the pilots don't want to get officially in trouble.
No, I don't.
I don't.
I don't.
I don't.
I talk to a pilot and he's like, it's worse than a sick out.
Like this.
A lot of people want to believe that all these pilots are like, hey, guys, should we jump ship right now?
And they'll high five.
But don't let anyone know because we'll get in trouble when in reality it seems like yo as we've been saying time and time again
you can only push people so far i don't see evidence of an organized effort i see regular
people just saying i'm out and that's that's something substantially worse it's like so this
is what i was saying the other day imagine if biden came out and said in order for everybody
to keep their jobs they got to go punch a baby and then all of a sudden it's like record
resignations airlines shut down what's happening it, dude, no one organized an event not to punch
babies. They just won't do it. That's what people need to understand about vaccine mandates. It's
not like some guy called his friend and said, let's organize together and refuse this. It's
a guy being like, yo, I ain't doing that just on there on his own. He didn't need anybody to tell
him to do it. Yeah, that's big. Um, along with other disruptions in our supply chains, in our labor workforce,
is something that's only going to start from now on,
since these deadlines are just encroaching in just a few days from now.
So there's a big conflict happening, and whether it's organized or not organized, it's happening.
And there's a formidable force of individuals, of people saying saying enough is enough i i believe in my personal autonomy i
believe in my personal liberty i believe in being able to make the right decisions for myself as a
human being and the media is acting like these people don't even exist they do exist there's a
lot of them there's a lot more of them than we would even even know about because they don't
want you knowing about this they don't want you knowing about this.
They don't want you even talking about the major demonstrations and protests that have been happening all over the world.
In New York.
In New York, in Italy, in France, in Australia, in the United Kingdom.
There's been major, huge rallies with thousands of people hitting the streets saying, hey, this is an unpopular policy.
I don't want to ask permission to go to the supermarket from the government i
don't want big fat bureaucratic agents who work at the dmv relegating every aspect of my existence
and what i could do and where i could go i got i want to point something out too the southwest
ceo is really coming out against the mandates sounds like he knows what's really driving the
work right could i Could I just ask?
You said that there actually isn't a mandate in place.
The Southwest CEO, there's not a real law.
So Biden said, if you got at least 100 employees, you got to mandate vaccines.
OSHA has yet to implement any rule and there's no executive order.
However, what the Southwest CEO is saying is that Joe Biden did issue an executive order
on federal contractors, which includes airlines. Therefore, they must adhere to a federal vaccine
mandate. Now he's in trouble, though. It's funny that the media comes out and is like immediately
trying to debunk the narrative. No, no, pilots aren't aren't aren't sticking out or anything
like that. And I'm like, OK, technically the truth, but they're just not showing up because
they won't do this. Now the CEO comes out just i'm i'm not in favor of vaccine mandates well
hold on there a minute who cares i thought vaccine minutes had nothing to do with why there was a
major flight cancellation and why you were short-staffed yeah i thought it was weather
he just said it was the weather you know it's fun funny is american airlines the only uh airline
impacted by weather it's amazing they must fly paper airplanes that get soggy and fall out of the sky.
It's complete BS.
They're lying.
For him to come out and be like, Biden wanted the vaccine mandate.
Sounds like he's now trying to placate the people who aren't showing up.
Yeah.
And he's trying to shift blame on himself, his personal decisions, and blame it on Biden,
which I think many multinational corporations have been doing.
Many powerful interests have been doing when they implement a lot of their policies that
they would never dare publicly even speak about.
But when you have a guy who's not really even there, who can't even speak properly,
that's the perfect opportunity to ram through your bullcrap, blame everything on him.
We talked about this a few days ago.
You just brought up this point.
I mean, this is absolutely perfect, a genius strategy in order to get away with these atrocities that clearly people do not want people are sick of
it there's also two images going around the internet right now that are going pretty viral
one is a southwest airplane with a gaston flag outside of its window and another one is someone
in a southwest uniform putting his head down with a sign saying,
No jab, no job, why?
Question mark.
Father of five, 20-year Navy vet, 4,000 hours Southwest Airlines, and a heart that's broken.
So those two images are going viral right now.
And whether this was organized or not, I don't think it even matters at this point
because I think it's clear with the mandates encroaching, especially on December 8th, for many people all over
the world, for many people in the United States, for many corporations, that these kind of
actions, that these kind of disruptions are only going to get more intense.
There's some people calling for a national strike.
There's already shortages at Amtrak. Amtrak is already canceling a number of train options for people because of,
you know, issues with their staff. You know, again, being extremely vague here, let's just
call a spade a spade here. A lot of people aren't happy and they're not sitting down for it.
Luke, why December 8th? I have no idea. I think, I mean, we could speculate right now.
There's no smoking gun evidence directly saying why,
but it could be because it's right before the holiday season.
It's right during crunch time.
It's right when everyone is going to hope to have money to give their loved ones gifts.
So that's some of the speculation out there.
You're saying they want the system to crash?
I believe there is an element that will profit off of the speculation out there that you're saying they want the system to crash i believe
there is an element that will profit off of the system crashing and they're making protocols and
restrictions and mandates that will create a situation that will put us there i do believe
that uh is somewhat done deliberately by the you know special interests and powers that do set to
gain from hurting everyone else part of why I can't stand tradition, man.
People feel locked into this Thanksgiving Christmas thing
when you could be celebrating with your family anytime.
Do it now before the junk hits the fan.
I don't think people feel locked in.
People in cities don't.
They have Friendsgiving just like they hang out.
I love that.
Yeah.
And then there are families that have Thanksgiving.
No one's making you do it.
Businesses give people time off on these certain days every year.
So it's like you kind of have to live your life around those days if you're in that environment.
And that can become very dangerous.
Centralizing your time is very dangerous.
I'm not a fan of the holidays because people stop working.
Yeah, how dare they?
And look, the way the economy works is if other people stop working, I can't work either.
Yeah.
Because there's only so much.
So on holidays, we basically are just taking time off now.
And I didn't used to do this, but it really is working on the holidays, like trying to lift 10 times the weight you normally lift.
Boeing also announced that all employees, quote, must be vaccinated by December 8th as well.
Many other corporations are doing this as well.
But this is all because they're allegedly Biden's federal contractors. And this is how, again, they're making it so just weird with their mandates, with their
quote, alleged executive orders, that it's very hard to follow a lot of this.
It's not very simple.
I think it's meant to confuse a lot of people.
It's meant to scare people.
I think there's a big agenda to make people fear, to feel alone, to make them feel scared,
to make them feel like resistance is futile
when in many instances it's not.
All right.
Well, my friends, my friends,
listen, heed my words.
We're going to build back better, baby.
Because we got breaking news.
This is amazing.
4.3 million Americans quit their jobs in August,
a new record.
Great resignation trend continues
as job market upended by pandemic.
Wow, this is amazing news.
Let's get a round of Let's Go Brandon, everybody.
Let's Go Brandon.
This is great. Thank you, Joe
Biden. Let's Go Brandon for the mass
resignations during a
supply shortage, cargo ships being
jammed up, trucker shortages,
labor, food, gas prices
skyrocketing. Now 4.3 million people in
August quit their jobs. I wonder what the numbers for September are. That's when the mandate was
issued. And it's also important to understand that, again, a lot of people here are putting
themselves in a situation knowing that they're going to lose everything. And they're saying,
I might as well just get out of this crazy situation if they're going to be enforcing this and move on and find another way, find another job.
So I wouldn't be surprised if most of those resignations,
most of those people quitting were from big companies who were mandating this
and them saying, no, I'm not going to go along with this and I need an out.
Now, check this out.
They say approximately 4 million people per month have been leaving their jobs
since the spring as part of a trend that has become known as the great resignation uh under
joe biden's presidency for some reason everybody is everybody's quitting their jobs great that's
that's amazing that's that's good it's a it's a good thing it's almost like there's a good thing
yeah it's it's a good thing um yeah the the economy is being reset at a great level.
That's what it sounds like to me.
I was just going to say, having this many people resign in the course of a month, that sounds like a really big reset.
Resignation for the reset nation?
Exactly.
Yes, it does.
It's terrifying.
I wonder what's going to happen because people who are familiar with how supply chains work know how bottlenecks work, right?
If you get something that's constricting and slowing down.
So right now there's a lot of backlog at ports.
Suppose 5% of truckers resign
because they don't want to get vaccinated.
And suppose 5% of ship captains resign.
And suppose 5% of, say, warehouse workers resign.
That's a lot more friction on an already stressed system.
That bottleneck is going to back up in a real hurry.
And the question is going to be, what's it going to take to be able to get out?
These vaccine mandates, if they are the cause of these resignations, this is going to hit supply chain stuff.
And that supply chain stuff is going to get way worse before it gets better.
And the question becomes at a certain point, how do you even unload those ports?
What are you going to do?
Well, Walmart, Home Depot, these stores are all chartering private boats now.
This is it's really, really amazing.
I mean, look, we had 2020 was bad. Right. stores are all chartering private boats now this is this is it's really really amazing i mean look
we had 2020 was bad right and we can say donald trump did a good job in 2019 is a great economy
2020 covet hits and then things aren't so good but we're supposed to be recovering joe biden
has turned what is supposed to be a rapid resurgence as we reopen into a complete complete
catastrophe yeah and and to be fair we love to just throw it at Joe Biden because he's the president, but
it's his administration.
Every single one of them involved.
If he promises something, he should be held accountable for it.
He also promised the COVID numbers to go down.
They've been going up dramatically with more intervention, more government getting involved.
And again, even when it comes to the ports, there's so many things to unwind there because in the mainstream media, like we saw in this article by the Independent, this is all pandemic related.
You know, job loss, economic suffering, inequalities.
This is all pandemic.
This is all because of the sickness.
No, it's not.
It's because of the government. that bureaucrats intervening, making the situation that much worse and not really helping anyone out, especially when you look at the scientific data and you see direct intervention, mandates, restrictions, lockdowns,
and you see places that didn't follow it.
You look at the cases, you look at the numbers, the hospitalizations, the deaths.
There's not a big difference there at all.
And some would argue that the situation has been exacerbated to its fullest extent with the ports.
There's there's literal ships that are ready to dock.
They can't because one of their workers tested sick.
What do many of these boats have to do?
They can't just wait it out.
They have to go back to their country of origin where they started from.
So we're talking about ships that were in the Philippines that are in California have to go back to the Philippines. There's labor unions, a part of these trade routes that are saying,
please stop with these ridiculous lockdowns, with these ridiculous restrictions.
They make absolutely no sense at all.
The laws that you guys have implemented here are absolutely backwards.
Meanwhile, you have the southern border wide open.
But if you come into the United States, you need a negative test.
The word quarantine actually comes from, it's Italian, from the 1660s.
A ship suspected of carrying a contagious disease would have to wait in port for 40 days.
The quarantine.
Oh, interesting.
Yeah.
You guys ever see the episode of Seinfeld where George Costanza decides to do the opposite of what he normally does?
It's almost like that's Joe Biden.
That's what we're trying.
He's like, do the opposite of what – so everything goes wrong.
The ports are all backed up, but the border is wide open.
Drug cartels are smuggling drugs in, but we can't get our Christmas toys.
That's right.
Why?
Why?
The one thing that should be here can't, and the one thing that's not supposed to be here is.
Yeah.
Talk about a guy doing the opposite of what's supposed to supposed to be happening hunter biden is happy though he's
getting uh whatever he wants so again we talked about his uh approval numbers and we said it's
probably the tally ban it's probably the cartel members that are the ones that are saying we're
very happy with what's happening right now because everyone else is just looking around and i think a
lot of people are ashamed that they even voted for Biden. I'm not seeing anyone support Joe Biden.
I'm not seeing anyone make any defenses except for sellouts who get hired to do it.
Whether it's influencers, actors, they're the only ones publicly supporting them.
They're having a hard time even pulling that off.
It's punk rock again.
Now that Joe Biden's approval rating is in the gutter, it is once again punk rock to oppose Joe – to support Joe Biden because now most people don't like him.
So now that most people don't like him, I am – I actually like him because I'm punk rock.
What do you like most about him?
His eyes.
Okay.
His hair.
His beady eyes that barely are up.
I like his grubby little hands.
Cheering for Biden is so mainstream, man.
Yeah, man.
It was.
It was for a long time.
I wonder now what will happen now that people are starting to hate him.
Will celebrities now be like, Joe Biden sucks?
No.
The question for me is just looking at how the politics of this are shaping up, Biden was brought in on a wave of anybody but Trump.
I wonder what is going to happen if Trump throws his hat back in the ring.
I don't know what Trump is going to do, but suppose Trump throws his hat back into the ring.
Now people are going to get to say, okay, Trump can run on his record, and Joe Biden is going to run on his record, and I wonder what that looks like.
What media environment does that create?
What new levels of inauthenticity will the media reach?
What new levels of fakery will show up when you all of a sudden, because when Biden was
running, it was always he was
basically running on obama's record i was obama's vice president therefore everyone goes okay well
how were the years during obama well that i guess maybe wasn't the worst thing in the world and they
hate trump so fine they can pull the lever for biden now biden has a track record now people
get to look at biden and say this is what we're going to vote for four more
years of. Now they'll take Trump. We're seeing Trump support go up in a lot of key areas.
I want to correct you a little bit because Biden wasn't running. The media was running for Biden,
and Biden was literally in a basement, and they were keeping him there, making sure he wasn't
out there to the general public. So now the media is even questioning biden and and being like wait wait
wait hold on what what what do we have on our hands here we have a president that doesn't even
want to talk to us that literally says he's going to get in trouble if he gives us a comment yeah
we're having record low ratings we're we're shilling for a guy that that literally doesn't
even know what's going on doesn't even know where he is, that literally created one of the worst disasters in geopolitical history with Afghanistan.
And they're looking around at the utter chaos and devastation.
And I think even a lot of people in the media are going to have a very hard time shilling for him again in 2024.
And I don't think he's going to be running.
I think he's not going to be the candidate.
It's impossible with the havoc that he is wrecking on the American people.
It would be too good.
It would be too good for the Republicans and for the anti-establishment.
So they need to pull him out and then get some kind of do-over with, I don't know.
Honestly, I don't even know who to name.
Who is there?
Kamala Harris.
No.
No one likes her.
No one likes her.
She's worse than Hillary.
Yeah, she's like Hillary, but worse. No one likes her. Some people like Biden. Who likes there? Kamala Harris. No. No one likes her. No one likes her. She's worse than Hillary. She's horrible. Yeah, she's like Hillary, but worse.
No one likes amazing, right?
Well, I guess some people like Biden.
Who likes Biden?
But I guess like 13% of the population.
Now, hold on.
Now, hold on there a minute.
Ian, let me ask you a question.
If someone came to you and told you that they liked, say, Giordano's deep dish pizza, it's
good, right?
Now I'm listening, yeah.
But what if you then asked them when was the last time
they had it they said oh i've never actually had it oh would you believe no i would prefer not to
hang out with that person but you'd be like how could you say you like giordano's deep dish pizza
if you've never actually i think i know people like that where they're like you like you like
that they're like yeah yeah exactly why did i lie so when you say some people like biden i'm like
you're correct but it's just like that they don't know anything about them they haven't followed the
news they don't know or care it's just yeah oh yeah like you know whatever he is
not trump and we just we just pull out the old postmodern analysis of of of joe biden and say
they're not voting for biden they're voting for the symbol of what biden represents they're voting
for the media created image of what biden would be if he was actually in charge and running things
we need it we need a comic about this yeah we're like there's the media's version of jo what biden would be if he was actually in charge and running things we need it we need
a comic about this yeah we're like there's the media's version of joe biden have you ever seen
uh ben garrison's version of trump i love it oh my gosh he's like ripped and he's like got a strong
shoulders and yeah come on please glorious uh and and and i still voted for the guy but i recognize
that's not that's not trump trump walks like a duck and he's overweight. He's been doing better.
Yeah, he's doing great.
Looks good.
But I would love a comic of like the media's version of Joe Biden.
Like the Joe Biden that exists in the hearts and minds of the most zealot Democrats.
He's like ripped and chiseled with his aviator sunglasses and a leather jacket.
And he's in a convertible.
And he's like, get in, loser.
We're saving America.
And they're like, yay.
When in reality, he's like, he can't speak and he touches kids oh yeah well didn't they do a magazine cover where he was wearing his
super cool aviators and where everyone was just like what is this like we all see this feeble
decrepit old man and you guys are trying to tell us that he's some kind of superhero but
brock obama was right when he said you should never underestimate joe biden's um ability to mess
things up i love i love i love the people who are like remember oh obama's only scandal was a tan
suit oh my and there are people who are just like it's like the pizza thing the people who are just
like they'll say yes i like whatever you say so they all laugh along and go yeah tan suit and
then i'm just like you remember when obama killed that kid, that American kid, in a civilian restaurant in Yemen?
Like, and other civilians?
Yeah, don't want to talk about scandals.
Operation Fast and Furious.
Oh, yes.
Spying scandal, NSA scandal, war on whistleblowers going after.
Spying on Merkel, man.
Journalists and whistleblowers more than any other president before him with this one particular law.
I forgot the name of it.
The Espionage Act?
The Espionage Act.
Yeah, he's been more than all other presidents combined.
Exactly.
So there's so many things to talk about the Biden presidency.
And a lot of people have said that a Biden presidency
is a continuation of an Obama presidency.
And there might be some merit to that,
but this would be kind of an unmasked obama uh push that
literally is just the perfect representation of everything globalists ever wanted it's their
epitome of their wet dream when you when it comes to when when you see what they're able to achieve
a lot of people are saying oh it's just a mistake oh this is you know there's just an accident
i think when you're at that high level of
government, I think when you have that much money, that much power, I think they play things off as
accidents and mistakes, when in reality, a lot of this stuff was deliberate. And when you look at
whose interest it serves, who it helps, it's usually the people backing these individuals.
It's usually the dark money. It's usually a lot of the people that are behind the scenes that usually are very influential in governments, but they're the ones that don't get voted on. They don't get elected, but they're still there.
The bureaucratic state.
Exactly.
I just sent Lydia the – there's a comic book where they made a comic of Hillary Clinton.
Oh, my gosh. Yeah.
Oh, no.
I forgot about this. Yeah, they did. The superhero we didn't know we needed. Yeah. Oh, evil villain Hillary Clinton? Oh my gosh, yeah. Oh no. I forgot about this.
Yeah, they did.
The superhero we didn't know we needed.
Yeah.
Oh, evil villain Hillary Clinton.
We knew we didn't want.
Yeah, we knew we didn't want her.
I'm going to...
We don't deserve or need.
Let me pull up the story from TimCast.com.
You may have heard the news.
Governor Abbott bars vaccine mandates in Texas.
The state's legislature previously banned
local governments and school districts
from requiring vaccines or masks. This is big. It's that simple. Now, Joe Biden's
executive order for the OSHA rule, 100 employees or more, it doesn't exist. It was just a press
conference. It's not there. There's no executive order on the books, and OSHA has not implemented
this rule. However, Abbott is saying in Texas, you cannot have vaccine mandates.
Southwest is based in Dallas.
So what are they going to do?
Are they going to now, if they do this, they're going to get fined, I guess, per employee
or however it worked, a thousand bucks.
But think about this.
What happens if OSHA does drop this rule?
Let's say you're a business in Texas and you're told by the governor,
if you mandate vaccines
for your employees or customers,
we will fine you
a thousand bucks per infraction.
But then you get the Fed saying,
if you don't,
we will fine you
way more per infraction.
So do you think this is why
the Southwest CEO
is saying what he's saying
about not liking vaccine mandates
or mask mandates or whatever?
He can't do anything about it i mean you got this i just gotta slow down pick a side that's where we're at pick a side yeah that's what bothers me this is an example of fighting
authoritarianism with authoritarianism what abbott did i think is a step too far he he basically
mandated that no one can authorize vaccines he's telling the private
companies he's saying so so the federal government said everyone has to do it then abbott said in and
came in and said no one's allowed to do it and you know why what he should have already a law
in the book saying you can't discriminate for medical reasons so what he should have said is
you don't have to listen to the federal government you can do whatever you want no the the mandate
specifically says that individuals are allowed exemptions
for religious,
personal conscience,
or medical reasons.
So this is what's effectively
shutting down the vaccine mandates
that people can just choose
not to get them
due to personal conscience.
There's already laws
in the book
saying you can't discriminate
for medical or religious reasons.
As far as I can tell,
and correct me if I'm wrong,
Abbott's telling
every private company in Texas
that they're not allowed
to mandate vaccines now.
Should they be allowed to ban people if they're black?
I don't know.
I don't think so.
Why?
Or if they're in a wheelchair.
Yeah.
Or if they're in a wheelchair.
Should they be allowed to ban wheelchairs or people with AIDS or cancer?
Well, it depends on the job.
You know, certain things require certain amounts of activity.
So like if you need someone to climb ladders, you can't hire someone in wheelchairs.
But that's a form of activities. So like if you need someone to climb ladders, you can't hire someone in wheelchairs. But that's a form of discrimination.
So if you need somebody to work in a grocery store
and there are jobs that can be done in a grocery store
that someone in a wheelchair can do,
should they be allowed to say no wheelchairs allowed?
What about a Muslim person?
Should they be able to be like,
no, no, no, get that Muslim stuff out of here.
Should they be allowed?
I think that violates civil rights. Yes, and there's also the the america the ada the americans
with disabilities act so now you've got medical reasons and we shouldn't have to present our
papers to our doc to to the store to prove should should a person who's got some kind of like uh
not you know should someone have to go and prove that they're the right race and they say oh you
know i'm not firing you because of your race
because I don't even know
if that's your real race.
Should they have to go
and pull up lineage?
No, you don't got to prove it.
We just make the case when we complain.
The point is,
I agree to a certain extent
that we shouldn't have rule by decree.
However, these are different situations.
If the law already states
you can't discriminate
for religious reasons
and medical reasons,
and it does,
case closed.
If someone says it is against my deeply held moral and spiritual and religious or whatever beliefs, they should be able to do it. Yeah, but you don't have to hire someone with leprosy if they come in there.
That's different.
What's different about it?
I mean, come on, bro.
I mean, it's different to me because we pay attention.
But, you know, in the mind of a business owner, who's the governor to say who they can and can't?
That's a different question, because in one case, you're asking about somebody who already
has a disease.
In the second case, you're asking about not whether someone has a disease, but whether
or not they've been vaccinated, not whether or not they're sick.
So in the case of the leprosy thing, you'd say, well, you already have it.
You can give it to somebody.
Whereas in the case of the vaccine thing, do you have
COVID? No, I don't have COVID. Too bad.
Why? Because you're not vaccinated.
Right? That's
the
separation point. What I would
ask is whether or not, for all the people who are
pushing the COVID thing,
could a bar owner say
nobody with STDs is
allowed to come to ladies night?
We want couples to get together.
And you got to bring your papers.
That's right.
Bring a negative test.
You have to disclose to us your HIV status.
Would people be comfortable with that?
Of course they wouldn't.
Or would people be comfortable saying, look, you have to have your vaccine for Hep C before you can come in.
Would people be comfortable with that?
For me, the question is how far can these things get pushed? And I understand
vax passports. I understand why people want them. But the question that no one has been able to ask
to answer for me is, where is the hard and fast line that it stops? No one's been able to give me an answer to
that. And that's why I'm so skeptical. Let's add another element here. Let's talk about this,
you know, vaccine that stops STDs. The vaccine that stops this hypothetical that we're talking
about doesn't stop STDs. It doesn't prevent the spread of STDs. It doesn't stop people
from having STDs as well. On top of all of this, which people need to understand the
greater point here. So, you know, there's so many different ways that people could take this.
There's, if we're starting to discriminate against people because of their medical personal choices
and decisions, you know, let's first discuss that. And even on those merits, whether the, you know,
the effectiveness of the vaccine, the transmission of the vaccine, natural immunity, I think that conversation needs to happen in its first place.
The second thing is no one should be telling me what to do.
A government shouldn't be controlling every aspect of my existence because if they could do this with the vaccine, they could do this with almost every other aspect of our existence.
And Abbott's basically telling business owners what to do.
He's saying you cannot.
He signed an executive order saying that vaccine mandates are not allowed by any entity.
So it's a form of authoritarianism now. Maybe he did the right thing. I'm just saying...
Because he's standing up for people's civil rights. He's standing up for people's personal decisions.
He's standing up to the current kind of HIPAA laws that are out there that says that
people can't be discriminated against and have to divulge their medical history anytime.
That stuff's already evident.
He doesn't need to mandate civil rights to people.
He just needs to protect them from the federal government's overreach.
That's what he's doing.
Southwest is literally violating social norms and law.
They can go work at a different Texas.
I think when it starts to break down is when it's a national company with a satellite in Texas.
This is really interesting because we did have this conversation before.
It may have been with Michael Malice.
The argument you're making is the argument that was made by conservatives.
And maybe conservative isn't the right word, but it was made by the Democrats to stop civil rights.
They said the government should not have the authority to mandate a private business, you know, not discriminated.
They can serve whoever they want.
If someone doesn't want to work there or someone doesn't go, they don't have to go there.
That was always the argument.
Then you had the social, you know, people fighting for civil rights, specifically saying
public accommodations are shared by all.
If we're all paying taxes into it, then we should all be able to utilize these services.
My view of it is if there is limited space in the commons and there is a building occupying space in that
commons and my tax dollars go towards infrastructure plumbing fire department ems and all that they
should not be allowed to discriminate against me or anybody else on specific grounds that of course
we need to sort through an outline now we have outlines many of them religious reasons you can't
put up a sign saying no muslims allowed you can't mandate that people eat bacon to enter your store because that would very serious.
Someone walk in.
I mean, maybe you can.
But then if someone who was Muslim walked up and they said, do it, you'd be like, you can't do that.
That's discrimination on the basis of my religion.
And you'd probably get in trouble.
There's a guy who went to jail for throwing bacon at a mosque.
So right now, Abbott is basically saying these mandates just violate so many of our non-discrimination
laws.
You can't do this.
Public accommodation is for all.
If we are paying taxes into it, we are a community.
To maintain social cohesion, you cannot restrict access to someone on the basis of their medical
reasons or religious reasons or personal moral conscious reasons.
Now, it's tough.
It is because personal moral conscience is a broad term.
But he said that in his executive order because it's tough. It is because personal moral conscience is a broad term, but he said
that in his executive order, because it's basically about religion. There's a lot of people who are
saying, Oh, but the Pope said that you can get the vaccine, even though it's you, they use fetal
cells to make it in the testing process and it's other vaccines. They literally use it. And they
use it in testing for a bunch of other medicines. The Pope says it's fine. Well, I don't care what
the Pope thinks. And I'm sure, I'm sure there's a whole lot of other Catholics who don't care that
the Pope has said that they're like no that that goes against our religious
values so if we already have the laws on the books then him simply saying hey guys i am reinforcing
that you cannot discriminate so i guess we're all in agreement that sometimes authoritarianism is
necessary and good no no that's what abba just did hold on there hold on there a minute you mean
decades of civil rights work to get laws put on the books through legislation and elected representatives who then voted on it is authoritarianism?
No, I'm saying him making a decree like this is authoritarianism.
Making a decree to reinstate, to reaffirm what is already law.
Just like desegregating schools.
That was authoritarianism.
You can see how it works sometimes.
Desegregating schools was the part of a long process that resulted in
a republic having a vote on an issue so authoritarianism was everyone just falls in
line and adheres to the authority like the woke cult when people have strong objections and and
and disagreements and then we say hey we all have finally agreed this is the line you have to you
can't discriminate and it was through a democratic elect representative
process sure you can argue that people are oh no they have to adhere to the authority of the state
because we all agreed to it but there's a big difference between we fought long and hard we
won over hearts and minds we got our elected representatives put in office they voted for it
then the supreme court upheld it and now we're at a point where the governor is saying, guys, the law is clear. You can't do this. I am not going to allow you
to because as the head of the executive branch of my state, I am here to enforce the laws that
already exist. That's not authoritarianism. Joe Biden issuing an edict where he convinces people
there's a law in the books when there isn't and they all start following him. That's authoritarianism.
It's both. It's just two governors making declarations about what to do telling people what they can and can't do wait
wait is your objection that is your objection that it was made by the governor and not by the
state legislature definitely okay firstly and secondly i don't like the government telling
private companies what they can and can't do i'm very nervous and reticent about that kind of thing
so i noticed it when it happened. I don't
think this is authoritarianism, Ian. I think
this is simply him reinforcing the
fact that we have civil rights
and that no one should have
the right to require someone to get
a medical procedure if they don't want it.
This has always been the case. This is just
him reminding everyone that this
is the case. He's not even necessarily
putting anything new into effect. Am I wrong question if uh if a bunch of businesses in texas started banning
black people and then he issued an executive order saying the banning of black people is
prohibited would you call that authoritarianism yeah but there's already a law in the book
through a democratic process well him saying something that already is different than disease
um you know you can suspend habeas corpus in times of great disease.
I mean, maybe can is obviously you can, but.
I don't think it's not about disease.
It's about vaccination.
If this was about, if there's nothing in there that prevents a company from saying, we'd like you to take a rapid antigen COVID test before you enter our business.
We don't want anyone with COVID, but that's not what that's about. This is about vaccination, not disease. And I
think there's a dividing line there. If a business wants to say, look, we're only going to have
people come in who have tested negative for COVID, I would say, all right, well, if you want to make
everyone take an antigen test before they come in or present an antigen test, I guess you want to do
that. That's fine. But there's a difference between saying you have to give us an antigen test
so that we know whether you have COVID or not.
We're keeping the COVID out, not you, on the one hand.
Or on the other hand, say, only if you're vaccinated.
Because then, I mean, think of the absurdity that comes in.
The guy who says, I've tested negative for COVID.
I don't have COVID.
I can't go in.
Another guy says, I tested positive for COVID, but I'm vaxxed.
See you all there. And many people who do take the vaccine do test positive.
Yeah. So someone with a breakthrough case can go in with COVID and cough all over everywhere
because they're vaccinated. And someone who's not sick, doesn't have COVID and has tested
negative can't go in because he's not vaccinated. This is not about disease. It's about using the
withdrawal of the ability to use services as a cudgel to beat people
who aren't getting vaccinated. And that's, I think, a difference. And I want to break this down.
What we're seeing at the federal level with Biden, the Democrats versus Texas with Joe Biden on
multiple occasions now, he said the legislature, legislature be damned. I will exact executive
decree on the eviction moratorium. And with the with the osha rule those things need
to go through the congress we also have the supreme court saying no to him with the eviction
moratorium and him being like don't care i'll do it anyway and he did and then democrats cheered
for it abbott is saying guys there are laws in the book saying you can't do this and i am obligated
to enforce those i am telling you right now this cannot be done as per existing law florida is also doing a similar difference florida is doing a similar thing saying
you can't discriminate against someone you can't force them to do this uh especially if they have
religious exemptions a judge in new in new york just upheld religious exemptions for health care
workers so legalese uh right now this is being decided in the high courts
and a lot of people are
siding with you have a right
not to comply
with this mandate that they're trying to
force on you and
this is something that's imperative
this is something that's important this is something that provides people
liberties and freedoms that
historically throughout life they never really
had ever
and now they're finally given this ability that's slowly being eradicated,
slowly being taken away from them, and people are saying,
no, this is just absolutely ridiculous, this is over the top, this is draconian,
this is totalitarian, and people trying to stand up against it
are not using that same kind of force and energy.
They're trying to stop a lot of that intrusion into our personal
lives. We have the story from Gotham is actually courts side with New York health care workers
seeking religious exemptions, reject vaccine appeal by NYC teachers. They report that New
York can't stop hospital and nursing home workers from seeking religious exemptions
to the state's COVID-19 vaccine mandate, a federal judge ruled Tuesday. Requiring workers to get vaccinated without allowing such exemptions conflicts
with longstanding federal protections for religious beliefs. Judge David Hurd of the
U.S. District Court of the Northern District of New York wrote in his decision, the policy
requiring all hospital, nursing, nursing home, and home care staff to get vaccinated against COVID
was initially issued under Cuomo. We get the point. Point is, the law already exists and it's
clear. You can't do that.
It's not authoritarian when we fought long and hard,
had elected representatives vote on something.
That's literally a constitutional republic process.
Joe Biden being like, nah, don't care.
Cuomo being like, so what?
Don't care.
Cuomo, with the law on the books saying you couldn't do this,
said, I hereby decree.
That's authoritarianism.
Yeah, when you look at the implications of
both of these policies, you clearly
see one where you have government
agents intruding into people's lives,
punishing them, taking something
away, and issuing
fines for
not going through another hoop that they literally
made up. That hoop is a very
important one. It's a very big one, and it has
a lot of big implications because if the government could do this, people could argue
based on health policy, they could also do it to obese people and fat people because
of the same kind of health guidelines for the greater good of everyone.
Bloomberg wants to. Exactly. Centralized government arguing for the greater
good of everyone. It's literally the recipe for disaster all throughout
human history.
And it's being repeated now by individuals saying, yeah, fighting back against it is futile. It's bad as well. It's not. Do you guys think that vaccine mandates are unconstitutional across the board?
No. What's an instance where it's not? So there are certain circumstances where
I think vaccines can be mandated.
But what you need to understand is that there's also a scale of acceptable risk,
meaning if you've got an airborne Ebola with a 50% mortality rate,
you're not going to have to worry about anything.
People are going to be panicking and begging to be a part of the vaccination program.
But we're dealing with COVID, which is serious, and long COVID is serious.
And I don't know the exact percentages, but, you know,
we don't want people to get sick and die. At the same time, the rate for individuals healthy under the age of 40 is substantially lower. So we're dealing with a nuanced political circumstance.
That being said, there are some times like in the military, for instance, they've mandated tons of
vaccines. The difference here with COVID is that it's new. And, you know, I talked about
this quite a bit. When you join the military, they, you know, when you're in basic training,
they give you a whole bunch of vaccines. You can require certain vaccines for travel for certain
work, right? So when I was traveling to like Venezuela and Egypt, yellow fever vaccination
is a requirement because it was an insurance requirement. And this is different. This is
the company saying, we're not firing you. We're just telling you, like, if you want to be the
guy who gets to go to Venezuela, like, yo, you got to get a, you got a yellow fever shot. And this is different. This is the company saying, we're not firing you. We're just telling you, like, if you want to be the guy who gets to go to Venezuela, like, yo, you got to get
a, you got a yellow fever shot. And so I did. And I went to the doctor and he gave me the shot. And
it was, I think the yellow fever one hurt. No, it wasn't the yellow fever one. I don't know. One of
them goes in your skin. It sucks. That I understand. Subcutaneous. But if you're going to say a public
accommodation, buying a sandwich with on a street that you, you are obligated to pay for, right?
We all know how Luke feels about taxation.
I think it's just for employees.
It's just for employees?
No, in New York, the mandates are you can't even go inside.
Same in Italy, yeah.
So that's the other thing too.
Okay, let's talk about employers.
First of all, for a regular person, it shouldn't be allowed.
But let's talk about healthcare workers seeking religious exemptions.
These hospitals receive public funding that's my understanding right
they're on public streets so you're telling me i have to pay for it and then you're banning me
from using it because of what i my religion no we already have a law saying you can't discriminate
the basis of religion now there's reasonable reasonable exemptions to that like if you
believe in sacrificing goats i can let you do it in public like in the middle of the street and 50
percent of bull uh death then damn your religion and take it anyway.
See, the difference there is
when we're dealing with issues of like viruses
that aren't all identical,
people have different expectations
for the risks they're facing.
With COVID, it is clear
that there's a large percentage of people
who don't believe the risk warrants a
sacrifice of such great loss of freedoms. When it came to the Civil War, people are like,
Abraham Lincoln did a good thing in fighting the war. Slavery needed to be ended. There was a great
moral injustice. And so people need... I've talked about this before that we all are trying to figure
out where the line is and what we're willing to accept when we take certain actions. When it comes to an airborne Ebola, like people's insides are being liquefied. We're like,
yo, we got to do something about this. And if you're looking at a 20% mortality rate and a
vaccine that has like a 0.01% risk factor, most people are going to be like, I'll take it.
But when you're dealing with this, there's one report saying that the risk factor for a boy under 18, there's one study that came out saying the myocarditis was a higher percentage risk than getting COVID itself.
Some studies showing eight times higher.
I don't know if that one study is good enough to say definitively.
That's why I tell people go talk to a doctor and figure it out.
Talk to someone who knows better.
Many doctors, yeah.
Right.
And get second opinions the point is when it comes to issues of what we're
willing to give up our freedoms for there's some things i think most people recognize if an alien
invasion happened man there's a really tough question about what we need to do to rally
everyone together to survive if it's like you know a series of crimes and it's in one city
why should the people of new york mandate everyone
in the country lose their right to bear arms because of the crimes in their city that's
basically what's happening i have i've had i think what's happening also is that there's a segment of
people that are like hey covid we look at the numbers it doesn't look that that dangerous is
what people are making it out to be so this seems like it's unconstitutional you've gone too far
but then there's other people that won't leave their house because they're afraid for their life and so for for abbott to
tell everyone in texas you can't mandate it even though they might feel like afraid for their life
is where i was like well there's the authoritarian flag i'm not saying he's wrong i'm just saying
but i think you bring up a good point i think i think regardless of whether or not there's a
severity to the disease no one should have to to give up their freedom for someone else's fear.
And that means even if there is an airborne Ebola, you can choose to go get vaccinated for it.
And other people who don't, well, then that's their issue, I suppose.
And we should be operating on a more liberty-minded and personal response.
We need personal responsibility and liberty, even in the face of something like an airborne Ebola.
Look, man, if there was an airborne Ebola,
50% mortality, people's insides were liquefying.
I would go to the mountains.
Like, I'm not going to go anywhere.
I don't think that'll help you escape those kinds of things.
If you ever watched The Stand, you would know.
Sure, sure, sure.
It's a movie.
In this instance, the risk is there.
We don't, you know, people who are over 40 with COVID,
people over 40 are at higher risk. People that are obese. People that are obese. We'll't, you know, people who are over 40 with COVID, people over 40 are at higher risk.
People that are obese.
People that are obese.
We'll talk here for a second.
So what do we do?
Do we just destroy everything?
I mean, the economy is in shambles.
People are going hungry.
People around the world are starving.
We're seeing massive ripple effects.
It's affecting everything.
Unless people want a great reset, I think at a certain point you need to recognize that we need to strip look ultimately i'll say it like this you know what i i do not support the vaccine mandates
however if there were a legislative body that voted and there were long-term uh studies and
then specific exemptions i'd be like okay, it was done through an electoral process. Having governors
and the president just declare by edict, I'm like, no way. Absolutely not. When we talk about
vaccines like for MMR at schools and stuff, I'm like, yeah, but these are vaccines that have been
around, researched for decades. They've been around for even longer than that. A lot of these
vaccines went through very serious and rigorous studies over seriously 20 to 30 years.
Now, when it comes to the COVID vaccine, Operation Warp Speed, it's one of the fastest projects ever done. I don't think personally, a lot of people think that there's like, you know, the vaccine
is dangerous. I don't think that. I think ultimately my opinion is irrelevant because I'm
not a doctor. I just think people's medical choices are their own. If people have a sincere
medical religious belief
like imagine if imagine if de blasio said you have to eat bacon like everybody must eat bacon
right now like you'd have a whole lot of religious people being up in arms like you can't do that
so there's a similar thing there i'll tell you this though there it is a fair point absolutely
to say the lines between what we're willing to accept are different for everybody and there are
some people who are staunchly libertarian.
And even if there was an airborne zombie virus would be like,
you cannot force me to do anything no matter what.
And there would be other people who were like seemingly libertarian before now being like,
at this point, lock everyone in their houses.
So I think everybody has their line, how much risk you're willing to assume.
It's a gradient scale.
And to make laws as a white or a black or a yes or a no or a one or a zero that's it's that's tough however
it should be a personal decision but when it comes to what abbott is saying like i thought about this
i've said this before i'm like i don't like the idea that you know desantis was like nobody can
nobody can mandate masks and i'm like let you go to the legislature right however you know masks are
different from the vaccine thing the mask thing i think is interesting if somebody wants to require
a mask in their store like what's your justification for saying that they can't require shirts or they
can't they have they can't require shirts vaccines different it's a it's an irreversible medical
procedure and there are people with medical issues over the fetal cell use and there are people with
medical issue with religious issues over the fetal cell use and there are people with medical issue with religious issues over the fetal cell use and medical issues that i take religious i have religious problems
with it personally i it violates everything i hold dear to my my my spirit i i will not touch
it now i i would never i would never in a million years feel right taking a rushed vaccine with the
evidence i have and that is a religion that is my true belief in what I am.
So, I mean, I never defined my religion,
but that's how it feels.
So let's put it this way.
It's your conscience, yeah.
Do you think that you have a right
to public accommodation in the commons?
No.
You don't think so?
Oh, in the commons?
I mean, yeah, yeah.
Through my tax dollars, yeah.
Right.
So do you think then Abbott saying,
guys, this guy's paying taxes.
You can't kick him out.
Is that authoritarianism?
Yeah.
It's not, bro.
Because if I start violating their semblance of normality and then he's like, you still can't get rid of him.
But this is something you pay for with your taxes.
Yeah.
For them to tell you that you have no access to these spaces would be them stealing from you.
I guess I get access, but it's up to me to maintain dignity to stay there.
Like if I pull my pants down, then.
Right.
So then I would say this.
The question that I have about the vaccine mandate is if they're going to say, well, you have to have a vaccine mandate.
Why don't them come along and say, OK, a vaccine or a negative covid test?
And it's the lack of or a negative COVID test that knocks it out for me.
Because if you said or a negative COVID test, that would mean that the mandate was really about COVID.
The fact that there's no or a negative COVID test means they're just wanting everyone to be vaccinated come hell or high water. So again, this leaves us in the absurd scenario where someone who has COVID
but is vaccinated can go into a restaurant and breathe as much as they want.
And someone who can prove that they don't have COVID is kicked out.
That's the absurdity that the vax mandates and the vax passport.
That's what absurdity that the vax mandates and the vax passport. That's what gets me.
If you can say, or, I mean, where I live, it's you have to show vax proof of vaccination or a negative COVID test.
And the antigen COVID tests are going for like 200 bucks a pop because people want them.
But you can do that.
You can say.
There's still a problem there in that they're mandating at some universities like every three days.
Who's got the time to go and do that and spend that money?
Not a college student.
So then people just go, fine, screw it.
I'll do whatever you say.
And that's the problem.
So that's a good moral conundrum though, the Ebola thing, like what everyone's rights are be damned if the virus is severe enough, perhaps.
And then the issue is, you're right, the Democrats are terrified.
They're shaking.
And then they really are.
We look at the polls.
Look at what happened when we invited Hasan Piker on the show.
And he was like, I'm totally down.
I'll do it.
And then he was like, yo, I'm kind of worried about COVID.
We have people here all the time who are kind of like, we wash our hands.
We use hand sanitizer.
We take precautions. we clean everything you know and and we we we're actually i think
we're actually socially distanced right now we are socially distanced at this table and uh but
we we have to live our lives man so uh no disrespect to san he's genuinely concerned about this but his
concern is is several orders of magnitude more than ours you You know what I mean? So then if he's going to vote for what he wants, lockdowns,
and we're going to refuse that, I don't know.
Maybe the real simple solution is if you're scared, you stay home.
You know, the beauty of the United States is that each state is an experiment,
and this is an opportunity to watch it happen in Texas and see if that –
maybe I'm misusing authoritarianism. I know it's
not an extreme authoritative thing, what he did, but this is an opportunity to see if what he's
doing works. I mean, the experiment was there in Sweden. It was there in Florida. It was there in
many places around the world that said, we're not going to be playing ball. There's a lot of other
experiments right now happening in places like Norway, just released a lot of their restrictions
or lockdowns or mandates, masks, all of that. Their case numbers went down. So there's so many examples of experiments. I
always said from the beginning of this, Sweden's going to be the true test of this. Because if you
remember, they were saying that Sweden's going to end up in a bloodbath. There's going to be
bodies stacking on top of bodies. There's going to be a massacre of unprecedented proportions. Everyone's going to
die in Sweden because somehow Sweden's not following along with the programming. They're
not going along with what they're told to do by the World Economic Forum, by the World Health
Organization, by a lot of these, quote, experts. And look what happened to Sweden. Look at their
numbers. Compare their numbers to the states that lock down the most. Compare their numbers to Israel and Singapore, and you will truly have your eyes opened wide by the disparity of numbers.
Actually, I think we have a good story for this topic and what Ian's talking about. Let me pull
this up. This is from SFGate. Walgreens is closing five San Francisco stores due to organized retail
crime. They say they give the addresses. I'm not going to read the addresses,
but they're going to close five more stores.
A company spokesperson confirmed Tuesday
citing ongoing organized retail crime as the reason.
Organized retail crime continues to be a challenge
facing retailers across San Francisco,
and we are not immune to that.
Retail theft across our San Francisco stores
has continued to increase in the past few months
to five times our chain average.
During this time, to help combat the issue, we increased our investments in security measures in stores across the city to 46 times our chain average in an effort to provide a safe environment.
We also heard Target, I believe it was, is going to change their hours because they can't handle all of the theft.
There's an interesting conundrum here.
You've got in New York City, right, AOC, they want to do away with cash bail.
I actually agree.
I do.
I think that if someone is accused of a crime, nonviolent, of course, and they're poor,
holding them and demanding cash for them to leave is punishing someone who can't afford it.
So we're innocent until proven guilty.
You can't hold me in lock up before you've proven
anything i'm innocent and so there's a really serious problem then they started releasing
repeat offenders who are laughing as they were committing these crimes you then take a look at
what's going on in san francisco yeah they're overly lax with what's happening and now you're
getting businesses pulling out so what's the answer more cops to arrest people? Stop and frisk?
Or the government backs off personal responsibility?
How do you solve a problem like this?
Stop disarming people.
Stop taking away their ability to defend themselves.
You fight back in New York City against someone who's a clear aggressor and attacker, you will be going to jail.
That's an absolutely absurd law that creates more victims, creates less personal responsibility, and creates a situation where criminals thrive. Criminals literally have the
carte blanche many times in New York City to do whatever they want because there's many instances
of police officers just standing back, watching crimes happen, watching people get hurt, and
they're saying, well, I'm having an argument with the government, so I'm just not going to do
anything. They'll arrest you in two seconds if you got a gun though they'll
arrest you in two seconds if you have a political sign in the wrong place and you're saying the
wrong message uh as well so there's been many instances of businesses that got shut down by
by you know police officers by sheriffs uh all throughout new york city because they just wanted
to have their business open meanwhile uh black Black Lives Matter protests, even on Fox News,
cops standing around the corner with their arms hugging themselves
as businesses are being looted and the cops are just standing there.
So you think the store owners should be armed and fire?
No, I believe in personal responsibility,
and if you're going to be incentivizing people to get away with crimes,
you should incentivize people to defend themselves and to be able to not be victims of those crimes.
I guess the theft is a nonviolent crime, so it's tough to authorize a store owner to open fire.
It depends if someone's stealing something right in front of you, right out of your hands.
I mean, there's an argument to be made here.
But out of your store.
Like if you're a store owner and they were robbing your shelves, it's not really ethical to fire your weapon at them um so i struggle with this idea that i have to restrict myself to the amount of force that's being used
i mean i'm not necessarily sure if someone comes into my store and starts taking my things out that
you know i have to say restrict myself to in in the amount of force i use to put a stop to that
for example i don't think it would be fair to say, well, you're a lot bigger than
that guy is, so you'll have to find someone smaller
to tackle that thief.
I don't think that that's a good
ethical principle. Now, that said,
I also don't think that
because
what you're saying, this is how that's going to turn out.
Someone's going to be like stealing a package
of lip gloss and some guy's going to open fire with a shotgun.
Part of what happens is... i think that's acceptable um and i'll just say sorry to interrupt but uh if someone is committing a crime in your store this is one of the things you learn right
away when it comes to home defense peep you know you had dave chappelle who was like he did that
stand-up bit where he's like you know bird, birdshot, birdshot, buckshot, birdshot, buckshot. And everyone I talked to says, absolutely not buckshot, buckshot, buckshot,
buckshot, buckshot, because you don't know that person breaking into your house. If you point a
weapon at them, they could end you. And if someone is in your store committing a crime and you think
it's just lip gloss, I'll be nice to them. And they pull out a revolver or whatever. There's
that, uh, that that uh that that video went
viral of the cop just just recently he's outside taking the guy out of the car and the dude pulls
out a rifle and just starts shooting at him yeah so so the difficulty is i i think the point you're
making is restricting someone's use of force i i certainly think that if somebody is committing a
crime you should be able to use force to stop them to protect yourself because you don't know to what extent.
Right.
I mean, crime is rising.
It's very tough.
There's no universal answer.
But I think it's clear that crime is rising where crime is allowed, where prosecutors
aren't going after people, where police officers are looking the other way.
And I think there's also other societies that are polite societies that they know a lot
of people are armed.
A lot of people are willing to defend themselves and there's an effect knowing that hey uh there's a responsibility
here that is known by everyone that if you do cross a certain line there are ramifications
that you will have to pay for those specific lines and i think the more people are able to
assert themselves the less aggressors they would have against them and things, there would be less
harm, there would be less violence,
there would be less crime, there would be less people
hurt overall in the
long run than if
in the current system that we have right now.
I didn't mean to derail you though, so. No, the
point I'm getting though is a big one
about institutional trust.
If you don't trust the cops to enforce the
laws, if you think that the cops
are actually going to make things worse,
which is a number of what people from,
I don't know, Black Lives Matter might argue,
that the cops make things worse.
When that institutional trust
in the prosecutorial system,
in the jail system,
in the police system,
degrades and erodes
and people start removing that away
and the ability for cops to um enforce the law
goes the incentive structure is such that someone's going to say look i'm going to run into
this store i can just go with my duffel bag and go through the jewelry section and just you know
five or ten of us will just go in and then walk out and if you're not going to prosecute crimes
say under a thousand dollars or under five hundred dollars because it's not worth it
it incentivizes those crimes because the guy's going to say well what are you going to prosecute crimes, say, under $1,000 or under $500 because it's not worth it, it
incentivizes those crimes because the guy's going to say, well, what are you going to
do about it?
There's five of us.
Exactly.
So what needs to happen is you have to be able to bring about a situation where the
police are able to enforce the law without abusing the authority given them to enforce
the law.
And that's the difficult point because on the one hand, there's an awful lot of people, and I think there, I mean, I think I would
get some sympathy from Ian with this to say, man, have you seen how some cops behave when they're
enforcing the law, the way that they treat citizens, the way people are treated in prisons?
I mean, it's absolutely abhorrent. But if you say, well, because of that, we're going to take away the cops power to be able to arrest people. And we're going to try and reduce people's engagement with
law enforcement under those circumstances by taking away police power. All of a sudden,
there's now no incentive for somebody not to rob a store. And so I see this as in large part as a
function of the destruction of the trust in the
institutions that are enforcing justice. So now what's happening is that on the one hand, the
police were viewed to have gone too far. And in places like San Francisco, Seattle's another one
that has a huge problem. People said, no, we don't want the police doing that. We don't want the
police defund the police, defund the police, def't want the police defund the police defund the police defund the police defund the police pull the police back we are now seeing
the fruit of those seeds beginning to bloom in the disorder in the chaos so is i thought it was
an interesting question then on the on the on levels of acceptable authoritarianism right as
it were as police are allowed to stop you det detain you, ask you questions, and they make an arrest based on, you know, if they believe you've committed a crime.
And sometimes they're wrong and innocent people get locked up.
So there's that big challenge.
You know, Ben Franklin said it is better that 100 guilty persons escape than one innocent person suffer, taking from Blackstone's formulation of 10 guilty persons.
So where do we draw the line?
As you mentioned, when we say, you know what? The cops are going too far.
Okay, now your stores are closing down because they're losing money.
All right, well then bring the cops back in.
Okay, now you're getting reports of cops injuring people and arresting old women.
Would Bane Franklin say it's better that 10,000 guilty people go than one innocent sufferer?
Where's his threshold?
Because he only said 100.
I'd say 10,000.
10,000?
You know why? If people can't have confidence that in their innocence, they will be presumed to be innocent
and will have a hope that they will not be falsely accused or imprisoned, then the system
has no...
They'll have no confidence in the system at all.
The problem with that is 10,000 people go into Walgreens and rob 500 bucks each and
knock the business out, completely destroy the business legally.
Well, not legally, but unprosecutorily.
So maybe, man.
Challenges, man.
Morality is not black and white.
It's like I was saying.
I talked about this with gender segregation, and we'll probably get into this in the member segment
where we get into this very serious story about Loudoun County, which is very, very gross. But the same arguments made today about gender segregation were made about race segregation
back in the day. We have men and women have different rooms. Why? Oh, they're biologically
different and they should have their own spaces. They want to stay safe. And a lot of it's a lot
of similar arguments. A lot of people reject it saying, oh, come on, the difference between race
is marginal and biology is between men and women is is very i'm not saying one thing or another about any biology i'm saying quite literally the arguments
people who say back in the day that they have race segregation because they're different
now we have gender segregation men and women have different rooms because they're different
so the same arguments don't fly for the same issues right it's just there's different is
different than uh well there's for. There's just different things.
We have different opinions about different aspects of our existence.
So it's not an easy black and white answer.
There's no easy answer to a lot of these questions.
There's always going to be some kind of inequality.
There's always going to be some kind of injustice.
But in my own personal opinion, when you get rid of the state, you get rid of a lot of harm that could potentially happen.
If you want to reduce harm, you get rid of the state.
And you leave people of the state. That's extreme.
And you leave people on personal responsibility.
For you, it is.
It's never going to be easy.
But at the end of the day, I would argue that less people would be hurt out of that system
than they are right now.
I don't think so.
Because if you remove the state, Walgreens will hire a militarized army to go over to
Radio Shack and mow everybody down and take the building.
Ian, you're absolutely wrong.
Radio Shack went out of business.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
What's a Walmart competitor?
Radio Shack.
Can I ask a question?
Walgreens and Walmart.
Can I ask a question?
Of course.
Okay, so we're going to get rid of the state.
What's to stop me from having,
saying, well, I'm going to raise my own militia.
I'm going to take over a series of land
and I'm going to own slaves.
I've now just created my own mini state. The things that power abhors... It all comes back reciprocal. I'm going to take over a series of land and I'm going to own slaves. I've now just created my own mini-state.
The things that power abhors... It's all states, yes. It all comes
back reciprocal. I understand that.
So my point is I don't think saying, well, just getting
rid of the state solves anything. I mean, so I'm
Canadian. We don't have life, liberty, and the pursuit
of happiness. We have peace, order, and good government.
I think that good and effective government
is necessary, as we've seen by
the shoplifting thing. I don't think anyone
benefits from saying,
well, we're all going to have our own personal security guards at our own stores to combat theft.
That's just not, and I'm going to upset the libertarians in the crowd,
but I also don't think that things like city planning
can be done in a decentralized way and in a way that's necessarily effective.
So planning roads, planning sewage um
planning electrical grids a lot of this has to be centrally planned it's very difficult to do if not
impossible to do in another way so i don't think that's a solution but i do think that once you
have a state that is not exercising its power judiciously and fairly and properly and competently once you live in what we're in in a
hyper real fake simulation or simulacra as tim put it um once you get into that kind of a situation
you end up with a with a scenario where the trust in institutions is broken and so those very
institutions that we that we institute that we create in order to take care of very, very important matters
are not trusted and people pull back from them,
they're going to start stepping outside the norms that those institutions upheld
and those things held together.
So what you end up is you end up with a breakdown of not just the trust of the institutions,
but that leads up to a cracking of the organizational structure as well.
What was that movie with Natalie Portman?
Was it Annihilation?
Oh, yeah.
Have you guys seen that one?
Mm-mm.
Yeah.
So, spoiler alert, it's not that old of a movie,
but it's been out for a long enough time.
There's like this weird alien bubble.
When you go in, DNA is all mixed,
and animals have plants growing out of them
and creepy stuff's happening.
And then in the end, she encounters an alien
that looks just like her.
That's how I imagine simulacrum. It's not
a copy. It's a cheap
imitation of. So you're saying
when the state gets too grotesque,
we need to, or maybe not need to,
but we would be good to break
it down into an
era of no state for a moment
as we reform a new state, which is inevitable?
Well, I think the Jordan Peterson solution
is you have to burn off dead wood.
Haven't you seen the meme
of V from V for Vendetta?
And he's got a headphone
with a microphone on it,
and he says,
your government is doing what?
Have you tried turning it off
and back on again?
Yeah, yeah.
That's awesome.
Let's do it.
Well, let's go to Superchats, everybody.
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All right.
The YouTube has this fancy little bar that blocked me from reading your name,
but I'll read your chat.
Super Chat says,
Hey, Tim, you're right about the Globetrotters comparisons.
Now let's sneaking stack the Washington Generals with some all-star players and win.
It wasn't coming from me.
I think someone said it the other day that the Republicans are the are the washington generals and the democrats of the harlem globetrotters
like that that's like a really great you know all right tactical chiller says all are welcome
in spring water village when it hits the fan because nobody wants to see where this globalist
plan is heading i'll be starting a new community out at my place 160 160-acre woods in AR with spring water.
P.S., if the IRL caravan needs a place to park in the end, y'all are welcome here.
Well, we're actually building for Domestan.
Big news.
We're finalizing the land purchase so that we will have free Domestan.
And it's going to be a big, open acreage, fun, recreational, freedom plot of land. I'd like to build a factory nearby if anyone's interested.
You were going to build the free dome. I would love to if anyone's interested. You were going to build the free dome.
I would love to build the free dome.
I'm going to build the free dome.
It's going to be a geodesic dome, ideally built from recovered plastic,
broken down with mushrooms, pestilopsis, microspori, and to sugar,
mixed with graphene.
Then we can 3D print some joints and legs.
Ian will literally live in graphene and mushrooms.
Yes.
I want a 1,000-yard range.
We'll have that.
We do.
Yeah.
We got some paperwork back today.
We finalized a lot of it.
Tomorrow, it will be keys in hand.
Oh, there's a 1,000-yard range.
Oh, yeah.
That means the Barrett will have a home.
What's the underground look like over there?
Dirt.
Wow.
That's a lot of potential, man.
Yeah.
Excavating is expensive we
build a sewer sewage system is that oh geez yeah chicken city's got a sewer system it's incredible
yeah we're building a simple sewer system so that when it rains it flushes the chicken
refuse yep just naturally out the back i got a tour of chicken city today it's coming along
swimmingly it's amazing i'm i can't believe how amazing it is the custom fencing they're building
it's just you guys got to see this.
Go to the go to go to go to the cast castle on YouTube if you want to watch some of this.
All right.
We got a super chat here from I think it's his Hornedorf.
This kills me.
I served the Navy in the Navy to protect every American's freedom just so the Biden terror group can take it away.
Let's go, Brandon.
Let's go, Brandon.
All right. let's see danimal bungee says
tim quote if you say you're opposed to the vaccine mandate but you comply with it you are not opposed
to the vaccine mandate also tim complies with youtube censorship i seem to recall hosting alex
jones several times who's been banned i seem to recall hosting steve bannon who's been banned
i seem to recall hosting enrique tarrio who is smeared by the media over and over again,
and he's banned from basically everything.
And so there's a big difference between, say,
actively participating in the censorship
and actively opposing it.
If someone says, I hereby oppose this,
now let me go to the store to participate
in their vaccine mandate to uphold it,
versus me being like, no,
if we're going to host these people, we will,
and we're going to create a speakeasy over at TimCast.com.
There's layers.
Certainly there's layers.
If these restaurants in New York City, I've explained this before, but I'll explain it
again.
We're saying at the front of their door, I'm sorry, you can't come in unless you're
vaccinated, New York mandate.
However, if you'd like to be an owner for $10, I'll give you a share of the company.
And as an owner, oh, you can come of the company. And as an owner, you can come into the building.
You're an owner, right?
Or what if they said, but in back, you can do whatever you want.
Then I'd say, hey, look, they're actively opposing the vaccine mandates.
Instead, what they're doing is they're saying, this is a bad thing.
We shouldn't do it.
I'm going to go do it.
Do you oppose censorship?
I oppose most forms of censorship.
Exactly.
I'm with you.
I don't oppose it i i don't
like it but i i think that you need judicious censorship is a good question um do we support
censorship of government secrets in the time of war say with china of course yeah we don't want
china to come and steal all our secrets we're opposed to them moving i'm just gonna give it
to him anyway it's true silver platter but But there's some censorship like, Ian, you mentioned when you were curating mines and
there's gore and stuff like that.
Yeah.
I support the censorship of that kind of stuff.
I think I have my own line though, right?
And everybody does.
I'm with that with YouTube.
I don't love not being able to scream the F word every 10 minutes because that's how
I am in real life.
You don't swear.
I like to. I mean,
especially when we're talking about this stuff like Joe Biden, I want to. But I, you know, I
have I enjoy the platform and I think that I want to, you know, give the platform its due. I have
like over 1500 YouTube videos since 2006. I've never violated the terms intentionally. I go out
of my way to make sure that I work with the system I'm working in.
And if you don't, then what's the point?
I mean, you could obviously go down in a blaze of glory if you need to make a big point about it.
A lot of people have done that.
I'm just not one of those people.
I think people are confusing active opposition with passive opposition.
Like, they think what I'm saying is that people actually secretly like the vaccine mandates.
What I'm saying is they're not opposing it like if you're standing in front
of a boulder you're opposing the boulders movement if you step out of the way you are no longer
actively opposing the boulder you can still be mad the boulders heading towards the townspeople
yes yes exactly people are confusing what i'm saying they're as if to imply i'm like everybody
secretly likes it i'm like no i can tell they're distressed you know but they're not actively in opposition to it let's read some more though
snos uh was it snosky tv says truck driver chicken in seeing diesel shortages pop up more and more
frequently the southwest is stretched thin and truck stops have a lot of things missing from
their shelves very unnerving never seen anything like it. Wow. Dr. Roller Gator says Wocal is not actually a bird
and Gator wants a refund.
I bet he's not actually Gator.
I'm just saying.
I'm going to need some backstory on that.
Dr. Roller Gator is one of the,
one of our esteemed members
of the James Lindsay sphere of Twitter.
He's a very, very skilled mathematician
who's done a lot of really good work
on his sub stack.
He's a gator on Twitter.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's, you know,
he's serious when he writes
in lowercase letters.
Tim too, I've noticed.
Sideways 2013 says,
Hey Tim, I know you've had
the situation several times.
We'll leave a way to mirror
your laptop screen
so guests can see it
like a TV at the end of the table.
Good luck with those studio links. In fact, my my friends as part of the new construction of this studio we actually literally have that now i don't have a laptop i have little monitors
but um i don't know if you can do a wide shot yeah hold on let me and then everybody who's
watching will be able to see that we do in fact have a big tv that everyone can look at look at
that and they can see all your fancy super chats and they can see all the chats going by, and they can see the monitor screen.
This is because at the end of the show, we pull up Super Chats.
Everybody gets to see it.
But normally, it's like the articles that we have.
But look at that.
Look at that wide shot.
We also have an alpaca.
We do, yeah.
Do you have the alpaca?
Important guest.
It is set up.
You can press the alpaca button.
I can't.
Oh, hold on.
Let me see.
Which one's the alpaca button?
No, that's me.
What are you doing?
Oh.
It's not the remote.
The alpaca cam is actually one
of the cameras i love that wide shot on the stream deck oh yeah there we go there he is for me but i
sure like it yeah oh you got the alpaca yeah he's got so we got this from an alpaca farm and his
scarf is made of alpaca hair or whatever he's wearing the hair of another wool is it wool it
is wool he is in fact but he himself made in China. Give me a one in chat
if you notice that drill
next to Tim.
Oh, yeah.
You can see a drill?
There was a drill
next to your left arm.
Yeah, we're still
working on the studio.
We're hanging up art,
trying to figure things out.
We're resin printing
a custom TimCast IRL logo.
Resin printing.
How thick is that going to be?
That's crazy.
It's going to be beautiful, though.
All right.
Moose Code says,
Hey, Luke,
horse and pony potato potato
close enough all right let's see michael schwobel says the fake set for biden is entirely
so that he can read the lines off a large monitor i mean that makes sense yeah probably
matt mayor says tim i work in supply chain for a company known as the known for their mac and
cheese for what i see on a daily our gears are turning but they're starting to cease i've been
telling people to stock up we cannot keep up with demand but is it like great demand or is it regular
demand with no supply i don't know all i know is i go to the store and there's less and less
remember i was telling you like we went to the store and they had no cream? That made me angry.
How dare they?
Yeah, we had to go to a different store.
And then they didn't have cream with the good cap, but they had the old school one where
you have to peel it.
And that spoils so quick.
Yeah, total bummer.
Someone just said drama llama.
Did you guys see that?
Drama llama?
I like that one.
He's an alpaca.
Oh.
Lydia wants to steal Veritas' thunder with the alpaca, but you know.
I do.
Yeah, we can't do that.
Maybe we can mate them one day.
Thinking about it.
That's a female.
Yeah, isn't Retracto a male?
I don't know.
She looks female.
They're stuffed animals.
Correcto is a female.
Correcto is female.
Correcto, is that his name?
She's got a little scarf.
Yeah, that's her name.
Correcto.
All right, let's see what we got here.
Danny Beach says,
Crap, I just got my ticket for your event.
Didn't think. Do I need one for my wife, or can we both get in on one? You got my ticket for your event didn't think do i need one for my
wife or can we both get in on one you will need one for your wife ladies and gentlemen it's time
for the announcements so over at simcast.com for everybody who's a 25 member or more we put up the
official event on october 23rd we are doing a live hangout meet and greet at a bar in west virginia
and we will be revealing the full
details of the location but it's in the harper's ferry area and ryan long and danny you guys know
danny i think his name is pronounced polish chuck yeah i think so polish is a uh so yeah so ryan
long is going to be doing stand-up danny will be doing an opening stand-up routine and they'll be
hanging out with us there because they're awesome good good friends of the show, and we wanted to put on a cool event. It is free for all
the members. If you're a member at $25 or more, boom, you sign up. It's right there. And then what
we're going to do is tomorrow, assuming we haven't sold out, which we probably will, we're then going
to open it up to all members, $10 or more. And here's the plan. Day of, there's going to be an
open doors for one hour for people to show up who have RSVP'd. You get a plus one and we'll check membership at the door. And then you come in, you get your wristband, whatever. And I think we're doing two drink tickets. The event is free for members. We are paying for it. And everything is going to be free. You just got to show up, bring your body and nothing else. After this, in the rare event that we don't actually sell out and fill up, because it's
going to be Ryan Long performing.
I think even if it was just Ryan Long, it would sell out.
Then we will allow people from the public to come in.
So what will probably end up happening is we will have, there's 200 available tickets,
which means members and a plus one.
And then once that fills up, let's say we have 100,
you know, 200 people in the venue. If someone says, hey, I can't stick around, I'm leaving,
and they leave, then we'll be letting people in. But at that point, if you're if you haven't,
if you aren't a member, you got to buy a ticket for the event, which I think will be 25 bucks.
I'm not entirely sure exactly how that's working out. But that being said, over at timcast.com right now in the uh member section is the link you need
to be uh 25 bucks or more because that's basically what you got you got the advantage we that's why
we didn't announce at the beginning of the show to give everybody uh you know sort of a chance to go
through and get those tickets and then uh yeah there we go so ryan long performing is going to
be amazing i'm super excited for this and we'll all be there, of course. Everybody from the crew, Ian will be there.
Luke will be there. I will be there.
And then everybody else from the Cast Castle,
you probably met, will be there as well.
It's going to be fun. It's going to be chicken wings.
Billiards. Not from our chickens.
And Ian and I are going to be jamming.
And Ryan Long plays drums.
That's awesome. He's like a pro drummer.
So we'll see what happens.
Maybe we'll even get some other people to play music.
We'll see how it goes.
I'll have the triangle.
Yeah, that's my instrument.
Well, it is West Virginia, which is an open carry state, constitutional carry.
So Luke can play the bandit.
Yeah, it's an instrument.
That's one way to put it.
All right, let's see.
Josh Latosky says,
I just have to say
that i really like the wider angle shots of you guys we can see more body language making it seem
like a more in-depth experience for us viewers and we also have the wide shot for that purpose
yeah although the challenge of the wide shot is the ptz camera has to manually move and reposition
it takes a second you gotta get it queued up yeah gotta anticipate all right let's see we got here
andrew l says can you have
alex jones be part of your team permanently he has never wrong do you know don't you know that
but seriously can you have him back on members at least you know what we talked about before i would
love if alex is ever in the neighborhood just to sit down with ian and just the two of them he's
the kind of i would party with him every week i would love to work with alex every week but he's
in texas and we're up by harper's ferry i feel like if uh if we just if it was just ian and alex on one member's only thing it would be
kind of like when you point a camera at the tv and it creates that yeah i love that recursive loop
definitely when i look into his eyes
yep yes all right john smith says pilots have to take their vaccination.
I'm sorry, their vacation sick pay before they get fired.
Otherwise, they lose it.
The mass canceled flights are because of this.
If that's true, it's to imply that all of these people who are absent are planning on quitting.
Oh, definitely.
Oh, man.
Wow.
Wow.
See, that's your good business owner.
That's that's something these people should be thinking about.
Gavin Campbell says,
isn't December 8th or 9th when Congress goes on vacation until the next year?
Is that it? I'm not sure.
Is it?
I don't know.
We should look that up.
Let me see.
Brandon Whitley says,
December 8th is when John Lennon died.
Have to celebrate communism.
Brandon!
Let's go, Brandon.
Mm-hmm.
All right. Let's Let's go, Brandon. Mm-hmm. All right.
Let's see what we got here.
Ryan Berkabil says,
White House says Harris
didn't select actors for video.
It was YouTube who did,
according to CNN,
how do we fight the fact-checkers?
The Truth in Media Foundation.
Oh.
Yes, we have a nonprofit.
So probably won't be active
until the beginning of next year because we're waiting for our 501c3 status.
But it's going to be a fact-checking organization, which will fact-check fact-checkers.
Huh.
I mean, it's going to be generally fact-checking everybody.
And that means fact-checkers are news outlets same as anybody else.
And we're going to fact-check their reports.
But we're also going to be doing ethics checking.
That means if someone falsely frames something, we're going to give them a strike.
So when Snopes says, did Luke Rutkowski, you know, eat ice cream on Sunday? Well, it's false.
And then it says like, well, it's true. He did eat ice cream. It wasn't Sunday. And like,
no one said it was. That's how they play that dirty game. What they're doing now. Oh man,
I got to, I got to take credit for this with victory lap, everybody. We had James O'Keefe on the show. James O'Keefe had this big story, Pfizer emails
showing that they use fetal cell fetal tissue in the in the testing process for the Pfizer vaccine.
And I said to James, what's going to happen is they're going to come out and fact check you by
saying do a viral story from Veritas is, you know, has people believing that there's fetal cells in vaccines. False.
This is fake news.
It's not true.
There is no fetal tissue in the vaccines.
When James's story is actually in the testing process, they used fetal cells.
Technically correct.
It happened exactly as that.
Exactly as we thought it was going to happen.
Easy to predict.
The media came out and said people are falsely believing there's fetal cells in vaccines due to a story from Project Veritas.
They never said Project Veritas claimed it.
They said due to a dirty, dirty tricks.
Yeah, we're going to fact check them and be like, they lied.
I'm having a hard time finding when Congress goes on vacation.
They go before the 8th, I think.
You know they get 110 days of vacation a year it's like travel slash no there's a there's a there's a
point here that tim just touched on that's really really important that i want to just kind of drag
over slowly so that people can get it when they're checking for the fact very often what they don't
do i mean we we joke a little bit about they're checking to see we make sure we use the facts
that they like but there's there's another thing that they do and that is when you say such and so because of this and that
you make a point and then you bring up a fact to back it up instead of checking the fact whether
or not the the statement that you said is actually true what they do is they check whether or not
they think you took the appropriate angle on the fact.
So you might say,
look, we didn't always have an IRS.
We don't need an IRS.
The fact check won't say,
well, did we always have an IRS?
Well, let's go back to 1776.
No, there wasn't one true.
What they'll say is half true.
Yes, it's true.
We didn't always have an IRS,
but here are some reasons why we do have
an IRS. And it's like, that's not what the check was. There's the fact, and then there's the use
to which the fact is put or the thing that you think the fact proves. And rather than checking
the fact, they will push back against the angle or the point that you're trying to make with the
fact. Let's play a game. Let's play a game. I'll teach you all how the fact checkers work.
Luke, what have you right there on the table?
A big old mess.
Yes.
That object there under your glass, can you raise it up?
It's a sword.
Pick it up.
Show everybody on the camera.
You took away my other sword.
I got this bootleg one.
He's still mad about it.
Okay, claim.
Luke claims to have held up a sword on TimCast
IRL. False.
Experts say that a true sword
requires sharpened edges
and must actually have a
connected wooden hilt. This object is a
toy and not in fact a sword.
Luke, false.
Or we can say true. The object being
held was a simulacrum
of the master
sword from the point is you can claim whatever you want and i love the experts say luke claimed
to be holding a sword but we consulted an expert who said that's not a real sword so luke lied he
wasn't holding a sword okay well i'll get an expert who says i'm telling the truth and then
i can claim i was right so that's that's how that play on yeah it's a replica of the sword it's not a sort it's a replica all right let's see we got here
jeremy l says gabby akuna is a new mother in nevada and the health care and the health system
is failing her please search for her on gofundme and even if you can't give please spread the word
we the people can help save the save her life and help her meet her new son if we work together
best of luck
all right let's see what is this ricky l hendrick says the armed scholar just reported that scotus
will allow biden to participate in 2a arguments what what well that'll be interesting huh the
dude can't argue anything you can barely talk course, they'll just write it down.
You know.
They'll write down something for him and then he'll read it.
Molon Lobby says regarding New York nurse firings and replacing with National Guard.
One.
Most already do that as civilian jobs.
So pulling from other hospitals.
Number of health workers needed in NYC alone is half of entire NYC.
NG ManpowerC NG manpower
NG
manpower
National Guard
manpower
three
New York State
doesn't accept
the Army Medic cert
interesting
oh here's an important one
it's me says
let's go Brandon
oh yeah
that's a good one
that's very important
I've heard that
did you see that kid say it
on the interview
yeah
let's go Brandon
someone super chat.
I don't know if you came across it,
that to look up Kaiser Permanente hit by strike votes in California, Oregon.
And I looked it up.
And according to GV Wire, I think it was AP,
more than 24,000 nurses and other health care workers at Kaiser Permanente in California and Oregon
have overwhelmingly authorized a strike threatening to walk out over pay and working conditions
strained by the coronavirus
that's what they say it's it's i called it the cascade failure as work conditions deteriorate
people quit as people quit more work conditions would deteriorate causing more people to quit
it's a downward spiral yeah the back end of the bell curve we we went oh the house of cards that's
what the yeah it's fun alaska guys it still fun. I hope everybody is prepared and they know how to raise chickens.
And don't need medical care.
We got first aid kits.
Ian was drinking aloe vera the other day.
Yeah, last night I gave some to the guests.
Everyone was pleased.
You were literally drinking aloe.
Yeah.
The inner filet.
Don't drink the leaf.
It's great.
It's like yogurt.
Don't drink the leaf.
What is it?
The herb of life or something is what the Egyptians used to call it.
Interesting. Full of water. Weird. Flower of life. something is what the Egyptians used to call it interesting
full of water
flower of life
something like that
alright let's see
what is this
what did someone say
next gen says
you guys should jump
on pop network
when it launches
on the 20th of October
decentralized YouTube
Twitch on the ETH
blockchain
interesting
we'll look into it
what was the
essence of immortality
yeah the Egyptians
have revered aloe.
Drink aloe.
It's cheap.
Get it while you can.
Grow it yourself.
It grows like a weed, apparently.
Grow it yourself.
Dreck God says,
it is not authoritarianism
when DeSantis says
no mask mandates.
It is DeSantis's
implementing his authority,
the authority that the people
of Florida gave him.
That's an interesting argument, too.
I don't completely agree with,
but I see the point.
If people say,
I hereby grant you the authority to act in this way under these rules,
then them acting that way isn't necessarily authoritarianism if they were voted into power as an executive to do these things.
However, I don't completely agree with it, but I understand the argument.
There are certain things we don't expect them to do.
And the mask mandate, I don't agree with DeSantis being able to mandate businesses don't allow masks.
What if he came out and said, no one can wear shirts?
Like, no one can mandate shirts?
No, for real.
Free the nipple.
Yeah, free the nipple.
Why should they mandate shirts?
I guess so.
No, like, shirts are different.
I mean, masks are different.
I don't prefer to wear one at a store.
I'll wear one if I have to.
We went to a micro center.
We had to wear masks.
And I'm like, oh, whatever, man.
I will tell you this, though.
I have this watch.
And it does a blood oxygen level check.
And so after about 20 minutes, I decided to check.
And it was at 95%.
And I was like, huh.
So then I waited another 10 minutes.
And then I checked again.
It was at 93%.
And then I was like, huh.
And then I checked again.
And then it said 89%.
And it said, warning, consult a doctor.
Your oxygen levels are getting dangerously low.
And I was like, that's weird. And I just lifted the mask up i took a deep breath oh wow back to normal
i don't know i was getting yawny i kept breathing all that carbon dioxide yeah i was yeah and so
then i checked and i was wondering i don't know i don't know don't look at me i'm not a doctor
someone knows my watch said it i believe someone had passed out trying to run a race with a mask
on yeah yeah but but people need to realize too some
of these masks are like really thick and some are really not thick at all yeah you know so you could
be having something that's like super thin people don't check which is i just think is ridiculous
it's like whatever i don't even know the things i've asked and i've wondered about mask mandates
is how much of the mask mandate is because the mask is being employed properly and correctly in an environment which it makes a difference,
and how much of it is because it makes people feel safe.
To feel safe.
I was out in L.A. and I had the N95 mask that wasn't vented, so everything I was breathing out was not being filtered.
Basically, if I had coronavirus, I was breathing it out through the mask into their face.
But they didn't know, so they didn't care.
They thought it was a mask, so they were happy.
I'd go into the store.
No one said anything about it.
As far as they were concerned, I was masked up, even though the mask wasn't working properly.
See, you're wearing a mask.
That's all that matters.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Oh, boy.
Alec Norgaard says, I work at my school's dining hall.
Ketchup, mayo, mustard, and barbecue out for weeks.
Whoa.
Whoa.
That's it.
That's the apocalypse.
A couple weeks ago, there was a shortage of ketchup packets up in the Northeast.
All over New Hampshire, people couldn't get
small ketchup packets.
We just got like 40 pounds of ground mustard seed.
How about ketchup?
I'm not that big a fan of mustard to want to do this.
I think we should buy another refrigerator
and maybe an ice machine.
That's also because I want to do cold plunges.
But ice machines also would be as much.
We got a deep freezer and vacuum sealed farm meat, deep frozen, can last up to three years.
Yeah, it can.
Dude, so we got a decent amount.
We need more freezers.
We need a vacuum sealer.
Good luck getting one, though.
Yeah, and that requires electricity.
I think we have an ice machine in the house.
We do?
Yeah, I'll point you towards it.
It's about this big. We're getting solar panels installed and big Tesla batteries so that even in storms or whatever, we'll have four days of electricity.
Isn't that crazy?
Yeah.
And then we'll ration it off and, you know.
No video games.
I think that the supply line thing is a bigger deal than maybe that we're making it out to be.
It's not just a lack of goods, but I think that's kind of one of the things that shows people what happens when competence steps aside. That it's
now, oh, like there's literally things in my grocery store that I can't get because of decisions
that are being made at a very high level that are affecting supply chains. It's going to get scary.
Centralization. I'm going to read one more. Kyle Abrams says,
Tim, I purchased a $25 membership
and it says I only purchased $10.
How do I fix that?
Okay.
Email members.
Is it members at timkiss.com?
Yes.
I imagine for member stuff.
Yeah, but it could be something else.
I don't know.
On the website.
And I apologize for the errors, guys.
Sometimes they might happen,
but send those emails
and we'll make sure somebody gets them as soon as possible and make sure you guys get squared away.
And if you have any issues, just we'll make sure we work through it and figure it out.
And I will say we'll make sure everybody is fairly taken care of.
If you emailed tonight saying you're having issues, then we're going to put you in.
Like if you were trying to get a ticket but you couldn't get in and you emailed us about it, we're going to make sure that you guys will –
Oh, yeah.
We'll figure it out.
Yeah.
We're not going to leave you hanging because the whole point is we've been trying to do
events since March and we got red taped up.
So we decided, you know what?
We can't just not do it.
We need to do something and let's just book a venue and do it.
And there's a really fun venue we found and they're like, yeah, cool.
Do whatever and we're going to do – it's going to be free.
If you're a member and you ask, we just show up up. No, and then, you know, I mentioned.
So I'll just do it one more time real quick
for those that didn't hear.
It's going to be in the Harper's Ferry area.
Go to timcast.com.
If you're a $25 member, you will see it there.
And you can bring a plus one.
So if you're a member,
then you bring one more person with you.
We're going to check memberships at the door.
Tomorrow, assuming we don't sell out,
it will then open up for all $10 members to RSVP.
So if you think you can wait for it,
by all means you can.
But I really do think we only have 200 tickets.
And then on the day of, as people are leaving,
we'll allow members of the public to come in
after they purchase a ticket or something like that.
We got to figure out the ticket laws and how that works.
It's not so easy just to have an event.
But Ryan Long is going to be performing
along with Danny Polish Truck, who is in all of his videos. You guys probably know
them from their videos. We're huge fans. We're good friends, and we're really excited. The first
person I thought of was like, we got to get Ryan to come out and do stand-up for everybody. That'd
be so amazing. So that's what we're going to be doing. But I will now wind things down. So thank
you all so much for hanging out. Make sure you like the video, subscribe to the channel, and go to timCast.com also because we're going to have a member segment coming up at about 11 or so p.m.
You can follow the show at TimCastIRL.
You can follow me personally everywhere.
Follow me on Instagram at TimCast.
Wocal, did you want to shout anything out?
I just want to say like, subscribe, follow the Center for Renewing America on Twitter.
I'm WocalDistance on Twitter, at Wocal underscore distance.
And I talk about postmodernism and critical theory, critical race theory, all that kind of stuff.
If you're looking for an in to understand that world, hopefully I can help.
Right on.
It was weird being on the show without headphones, so I apologize if I was more discombobulated as I usually am sometimes.
But anyway, the shirt that I have on is a Venn diagram of our dystopia,
and it highlights Brave New World, 1984, and Fahrenheit 451.
And if you like the shirt and it resonates with you,
you could get one exclusively on thebestpoliticalshirts.com.
And because of your purchases, I'm here, so thanks for having me.
You guys are really, really awesome.
Thanks for coming.
Vocal, the man.
You out-hippied me by far.
You look fantastic.
The beard is great.
That's like hippie level 100, hippie level 10.
These are crystals.
He taught me everything I know.
From my crystal to yours, my man.
Catch you guys later.
Thank you guys all very much for tuning in.
I'm very excited for our event
and for having
Ryan Long on
thank you guys
for bearing with me
and my ridiculous
camera switches
as I'm getting used
to all this stuff
you guys may follow me
on Twitter
at Sarah Patch Litz
thanks for hanging out
everybody
we will see you all
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in the member segments
and we'll see you then
bye guys you
