Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #403 - State Key Witness Just NUKED ENTIRE Rittenhouse Case Proving Self Defense w/Kash Patel

Episode Date: November 9, 2021

Tim, Ian, Luke, and Lydia join former attorney and chief of staff to the Acting United States Secretary of Defense Kash Patel to discuss the ongoing Kyle Rittenhouse trial and the stunning new evidenc...e from a witness who was supposedly for the prosecution, how the FBI holds evidence to its own benefit, how media outlets lied about the Steele dossier during the Trump administration and the story of Ukrainegate, and the FBI raid of Project Veritas, which appears to be political targeting of opposition journalists. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:55 This is important, though. So I think it was, what, yesterday? We did the official Blimp livestream. That's why it's all messed up. And so this was where we actually had a high-definition camera zeppelin the let's go brandon blimp and so we reconfigured everything and i guess they forgot to switch it back so blame them i should have caught it for the few minutes where you see me just like mouthing words so anyway what i was saying was joe rogan saved our lives yes he did yesed. He flew in, landed a parachute into the house and he was carrying nothing but horse dewormer. Uh, no, but, uh, Joe, uh, I talked to
Starting point is 00:01:30 him. He encouraged me to, you know, make sure I take it seriously. We had a doctor basically telling me like, sleep it off. And I was feeling worse. And you know, I ended up talking to Joe because Joe went through this and he talked about monoclonal antibodies and stuff. If, if I didn't talk to Joe and and joe was like hey man you should really take this seriously because like covid's a big deal blah blah i actually my lungs were really bad and so when i was getting treatment they were like yo this is really bad and i had a really really bad day so i think i got hit worse than everybody and uh if it wasn't i'm eternally grateful joe actually said he would cover the costs you know the treatment for
Starting point is 00:02:02 for everybody you know so there's a few people that I covered the costs for, but Joe really did step up, help out because he's a good friend. And the crazy thing is the media has turned this into some crazy story when the story is really simple. I called a friend of mine. He said, hey, man, you should call a doctor because you sound pretty bad. And I'm like, yeah, you're probably right. And then I called the doctor and he's like, I want to prescribe this medication for your team. And then I talked to Joe. I'm like, hey, I'm getting that same treatment as you. And he goes, bro, I'm going to, I'm going to take care of you guys. And I was like, wow, thanks, man. You're a good friend.
Starting point is 00:02:28 That's the news. But, but because it's Joe Rogan and they want to smear him and they want to lie about horse dewormer, also the garbage, then it becomes something that's, that's really just blown up proportion. What you need to understand is a lot of States have monoclonal antibody treatments that are free. We'll get into all this stuff. Cause we've got a lot of news about the, the vaccine mandates, LA there's big protests. We um the the the surgeon general i think is now saying they want to push a vaccine mandate for literally all businesses now so that would include us and anybody under 100 employees which is crazy but we do got big news about the car written house case the prosecution has been absolutely just just messing everything up and it's bad, I have to assume they did it on purpose.
Starting point is 00:03:06 One of their witnesses, the third witness now to backfire on them and their key witness admitted he was only fired upon by Kyle Rittenhouse after he advanced on Kyle and drew a Glock and pointed it at Kyle Rittenhouse's head. And then immediately every legal analyst was like, oh, there it is. People are screaming directed verdict, like the judge should throw it all out. So we'll talk about that. And we've also got some big news on Russiagate and the Durham investigation. Joining us to talk about all this is Kash Patel. Do you want to introduce yourself?
Starting point is 00:03:38 Thanks so much for having me, Tim. I really appreciate coming out here to actual America versus being in communist D.C. But look, I'm sure we'll get into all of it. But brief, boring background on me. Public defender, former federal prosecutor, tried a bunch of cases, then got into more national security work, went over to JSOC, did targeting with our special forces guys for a while. Probably the best job ever. Then I thought I was going to the White House to do national security stuff. Russiagate happened.
Starting point is 00:04:04 That time, Devin Nunes, nobody knew who he was, nobody who knew who I was. Sometimes I wish we could go back to those days. Says, hey, run this Russiagate investigation with your intel investigatory background. Became his chief investigator. And, well, you know what happened from there. And then I was fortunate to go from there to the White House. Deputy Assistant President Trump. Ran counterterrorism.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Became the Deputy Director of National Intelligence. And then finished off as chief of staff for the department of defense so pretty wild ride huh yeah crazy and with a lot of news about the derm investigation you got a lot to say so i got lots of fun it will be this is going to be a very interesting conversation we have so much to get into i'm so happy we're back and we missed so much i just want to rant incredibly about so many issues right now, but I'm going to save it. We also missed Halloween, which sucks because I was planning on dressing up
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Starting point is 00:05:24 I got so much I want to say, so much I want to rant about. Holy cow, man, I am so excited about this show. I am also very happy to be here and be back and rid of this foul virus that has been plaguing me for a week and a half. Hello, everyone. Lydia, we're getting some notifications that the audio is really low. Yes, I have to tweak it as we go. All right, so Lydia is going to be fixing the audio. Happy to see you, Cash. Likewise. Let's rock and roll,
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Starting point is 00:06:24 With that being said, let's jump into the first story. Let's talk about Kyle Rittenhouse. Behold this image for those that are watching on YouTube. It is the prosecutor in one of the prosecutors in the Kyle Rittenhouse case face palming. And this was when their own witness, Gage Grosskreutz, admitted he only was fired upon after he drew his gun on Kyle and then advanced on him. And the crazy thing about this is that in the trial, this guy Gage was lying over and over again. And the defense kept calling him out like, here's a signed statement. Here's a photograph. Here's an image. Here's a video. And only then was the dude finally
Starting point is 00:07:03 admitting what he was saying was like, oh, okay. And then like changing his answer. In this instance, he was asked by the defense, sorry. The defense asked Gage Grosskreutz. He's one of the guys who attacked Rittenhouse and got shot. And the defense said, it was only when you pointed the gun at Rittenhouse that he fired upon you. And Grosskreutz said no at first. So the defense pulls out a photo, gives it to him, and he's like, what's that a photo of? And he's like, you're pointing your weapon at Rittenhouse. And then he's firing on you. And then he said it again. So it was only after you advanced on Rittenhouse, gun drawn, pointed at him, that he fired on you. and that's when he goes yes immediately all the
Starting point is 00:07:46 pundits are like oh directed verdict directed verdict it's over but um i don't know if it means it's over it certainly means that on the murder charges i think a fair assessment would be rittenhouse is going to get its self-defense but there's still the weapons charge and cash interestingly you were saying like you've tried cases before and you think the jury might actually what say we don't care about this. Look, I tried like 60 jury trials to verdict, right? Criminal murders, homicides, bank robberies, narco trafficking, you name it, right? Every case I thought I was going to win, I lost. Every case I thought I was going to lose, I won. Juries are and this is why there is no such thing as jury specialists because you cannot be that good at reading 12 total strangers.
Starting point is 00:08:28 And the signs in this case are good. But people are like, well, if a jury is out for three days, it means the defense won't. There are no rules for this stuff. I think this is a very good day for the defense and also the fact that the prosecutor in this case has his hand, his head in his hand. This photo is amazing no but just he means he did not prep his key witness the major witness in the case the victim because he's shocked to have that verbiage come out during trial he was a witness not a victim not a victim sorry a victim yeah he was a star witness that complaining witness lied to the police lied about exactly what happened here
Starting point is 00:09:00 and now this i mean some people are saying this is this is over but as you said you know court proceedings are like gambling you never know what the outcome is going to be. And there's a lot of people threatening riots, a lot of people threatening protests, a lot of people threatening to go after the jury as well. So we're having a lot of outside impact on this very important trial that I think we should also kind of hone in on and talk about. That's crazy to me, though i people were saying uh it was like recchietta law there's a viral video that viva fry posted these are lawyers by the way for those aren't familiar with them and recchietta is like directed verdict there it is on all murder charges
Starting point is 00:09:34 which basically means what can you explain directed verdict sure it's it's it's this mechanism in in legal trials where you basically you say judge did you just see what happened there's so much evidence to go our way, our way being the defense. Take the case out of the hands of the jury, direct a verdict because the law cannot convict this man based on the facts. It's rarely used. I agree with the sentiment expressed by the attorneys, but a judge can also reserve a directed verdict till after the jury even comes back with their verdict. So that's generally what happens. Does that happen often? Wow. Wow. Less than 1% of the time. So you're saying that the jury could actually come back and
Starting point is 00:10:08 be like he's guilty but the judge could go no yep you can still file your motion for directed verdict afterwards because you can say the jury erred they're the they decide the fact you judge decide the law and based on the law you can't convict my client of murder i i can't i think it's insane this is even a trial at this point it's political it's the i was just gonna say it's the politics and that's what makes this trial even scarier it's the politics of the case make it even scarier because the jury is going to feel more pressure you know it's going to be kind of screwed up if i turn out to be right because it was well what i mean is a few weeks ago, like a few months ago, I said Kyle is going to get life because what happened with the Chauvin trial is – we mentioned this a little bit briefly before the show that they tried – they get him on murder and all that stuff. But it was like potentially manslaughter.
Starting point is 00:10:55 That was the argument. And then during the court case, it was not just my opinion as a layman, which is not worth much at all, all these legal analysts actual lawyers actual defense lawyers saying like wow wow wow in these instances but the jury was under duress so you end up with jurors coming in the chauvin trial being brought in by armed cops with machine guns clearly something's wrong in that case and then the jurors even said after the fact they were scared they'd be targeted i felt the same same way with the jurors in the Rittenhouse case. No one is going to want to stand up and stick their neck out for this kid if a rioter is going to show up and burn your house down. However, now it's winter. People don't riot in the winter as much. It typically won't happen. Now it looks like they definitely overcharged Rittenhouse.
Starting point is 00:11:39 And so I'm starting to think that after seeing how the judge was ruling on this and how the state has been handling it, they've had three witnesses they've called that have backfired on them. You had Richie McGinnis, who basically was like the dude said F you and tried grabbing the gun and they tried finagling their way out of that one. You had I think his name was Ryan Balch, who said one of the one of the people who attacked Rittenhouse went up to them earlier in the day and said, if I catch you alone, I'll effing kill you. And that was the state, that's a prosecution's witness. And then you get this guy who's like suing the city for $10 million. And he gets asked by the defense, the outcome of this case will impact whether or not you win that money. And he's like, yeah, but he stopped short of saying he thought, you know, convicting Rittenhouse would help him win the money. And then you get this where he's basically like, I was only fired upon when I pointed my gun. But what if the jury gets scared?
Starting point is 00:12:31 There's a viral video where a guy is like, we got cameras in the courtroom. We know who these people are. What if the jury gets scared? They split the baby. That's what they used to call it. Basically, the judge or the jury comes in and says there's too much political heat on this. There's too much media on this. If we were just deciding this case on the facts and the law we'd probably acquit him but we're not going to convict
Starting point is 00:12:48 him of murder we're going to go in between and probably hit him with a manslaughter charge that happens a lot in high profile media cases that's scary that's not justice no it's the furthest thing from it with with the chauvin case i think it might have been will chamberlain who mentioned this you know willyer. He was saying that as soon as the judge in that case acknowledged there's nowhere you can go where people won't know about the rioting,
Starting point is 00:13:14 he was like, it should have been dismissed. The case outright, if you can't have a fair trial, then you can't have a trial. Yeah, there's no good, there was a cause to move that venue, move it out, you know, and that's what he was alluding to and, you know, most judges won't do it. Watching this case with Rittenhouse, I mean it feels like the prosecutor is throwing it on purpose. I mean I think he's just not prepared.
Starting point is 00:13:39 He looks to me like a prosecutor when I was a public defender. I faced guys like this who thought, I've got this case so in the bag, like the Casey Anthony prosecutors down in Miami. I've got this case so in the bag. I literally don't have to do anything but just put up my witnesses, and the political shitstorm in the media will come in and basically overcome my failures. Why do they want to prosecute Rittenhouse? They've seen all the evidence. Well, again, you're going back to justice, right, which is a concept that's unfortunately eroding in this country. But basically their take is we've got to prosecute this guy.
Starting point is 00:14:13 The media is going to come after us if we don't. Certain politicians will come after us. Certain factions of America will come after us if we don't prosecute this individual. I don't know if you know this, but was Kyle Rittenhouse charged with manslaughter? He wasn't, was he? You don't have to be um basically i was gonna get to basically once you're charged with the top crime you can be convicted of everything underneath it you know so murder includes manslaughter it's probably three different kinds of manslaughter it includes aggravated assault and if you use the weapon there's a firearms charge there's a whole litany
Starting point is 00:14:41 of things that comes in underneath so what do you think you think he's going to get a lesser charge yeah man that's bs what do you i hope i in underneath so what do you think you think he's going to get a lesser charge yeah man that's bs what do you think i hope i'm wrong yeah what do you think about human events reporting that the fbi allegedly had footage of exactly what happened here but they didn't want to release it because they didn't want to exonerate written house that's that's the allegations by human events wow that's so look having been a guy who was a national security prosecutor prosecuted terrorists all over the world and worked with the FBI, I love those guys, most of them, right? What I don't like is the top and that Russiagate, and we'll get to that as a prime example of how America's faith in our law enforcement community has been destroyed by a select few. And when you say something like that, if you told me that seven years ago, I'd be like, you're crazy, man. If you tell me that today, I'd be like, someone needs to do that. Someone needs to look into that seriously,
Starting point is 00:15:28 because if the Justice Department withheld evidence, exculpatory evidence, like we've caught them doing time and time again, from Russiagate on through the Flynn case, when Flynn was exonerated, they withheld exculpatory evidence, they, the FBI. Well, the Epstein case, they withheld the information for 30-plus years. The FBI was interviewing witnesses in the 90s. That's right. Women that came forward and said, hey, this is happening, and the FBI literally looked the other way.
Starting point is 00:15:54 There was the other case of the other family-friendly show, the other person who hurt children. I forgot his name. We were just talking about that. Prince Andrew? There's, of course, Prince Andrew. And then there's another case a couple weeks ago where the FBI again ignored the victims, screwed them when they knew. Oh, oh, oh.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Nasser. Yes, Nasser. So it's like how many times could they do this now? Dude, dude. Yeah. I'm watching the live stream of this case. And I think anybody who's watching this is probably asking themselves over and over again, how was Gage Grosskreutz not criminally charged for at least having the gun, right? But it sounds like attempted murder, potentially. The only reason that we're not watching a trial
Starting point is 00:16:39 for attempted murder is that Kyle Rittenhouse defended himself. Gage Grosskreutz lied to the police, multiple officers, about having a gun. His concealed carry was invalid. He knew it was invalid. So he lied to the police. So here he is at a protest. He goes at a riot. He goes to multiple. He's admitted this on the stand.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Multiple events, armed with a gun he's not legally allowed to be carrying. Now, I'll stop right there and say, I believe that that's a bunk claim because the Constitution says you have a right to keep and bear arms. And then trying to put this law over someone's right to keep and bear arms is BS. But for the sake of the statutory legal issue at play, here's a guy who should have been charged for bringing an illegal weapon concealed to a riot on multiple occasions. And the prosecution showed that he was chasing Kyle Rittenhouse out of view of Rittenhouse.
Starting point is 00:17:26 He didn't know where Kyle was. And you can see him on camera running towards him and reaching into the small of his back and drawing the gun from his waistband. How did this guy not get charged? And now we learn the FBI had the aerial surveillance footage. So you mean the FBI was surveilling the riots from from with a drone and they've not charged any of these people what the ever-living f or release the information to help this court proceeding to help this trial go along in a more accurate honest way uh you know
Starting point is 00:18:00 why hasn't that been released our taxes were used for that money yeah so here's here's the thing right that case is going down in here's the thing, right? That case is going down in state court. The FBI is a federal law enforcement agency whose mandate is in federal court. Now, that doesn't mean that the FBI doesn't participate in crimes that are prosecuted in state court, but very, very rarely. And the way they view it is that's a separate court system. It's a Wisconsin state court system. We do not have any obligation to do anything.
Starting point is 00:18:24 We have no relationship with that prosecutor to do anything. And they can hide behind that. But why didn't they bring any charges? Is it because it's not a federal offense? You have, again, a politicized law enforcement community where they're saying because of the riots and because of everything that happened here, the number one target is Kyle Rittenhouse. So we can't go ahead and supersede with the federal prosecution for another defendant or possible defendant because they want to see how that case plays out because they don't want to take the heat away from that. Did you see that they had a subpoena for the phone of Gage grosskreutz the guy with the gun and they didn't enforce they didn't enact it they ignored it and the defense actually asked one of the detectives is it normal that you'll get a search warrant and not use it and he was like well sometimes and he was like did the prosecutors ask you to and you know use that search warrant and he goes no and he's like is it weird that you've been granted the ability to search the phone of this guy and you said no to that? So there's one remedy for
Starting point is 00:19:31 all this, right? When the jury trial is over, the judge, any judge has the authority to issue contempt proceedings. What that means is you do not need a prosecution. You do not need a Department of Justice or State Attorney General's office. The judge can call any witness or the prosecutor that appeared before him and said, I think you lied to me. I'm holding you in contempt of court. It's a state felony. You have to bring an attorney and show me why I shouldn't throw you in prison. And it happens rarely, but in a case like this where you're talking about all these possibilities of exculpatory evidence, prosecutorial misconduct, the only person that can keep it straight is the judge. Watching this trial, the state is going full emotion.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Trying to get this Gage Grosskritz guy to like cry on the stand almost. He's like, I thought I was going to die. The media, fully complicit. You look at the media on this and it's similar to the Chauvin trial. You'd think the prosecution was like hitting slam dunks. This guy was like, I was trying to stop him and I thought I was going to die, but I had to. And it's like you actually listen to the testimony and he's like, I want $10 million from the city. What?
Starting point is 00:20:34 But in state court, that's the difference between state and federal court, right? The media is allowed in. TV cameras are allowed into state courtrooms. TV cameras are not allowed in a single federal courtroom in the United States of America, which is why you get those cartoon sketches. You never get videotaped. Never allowed.
Starting point is 00:20:48 But when you do, you play on it. Jack Posobiec had a good tweet. I don't think he got every single reporter that was down there, but I'll give a shout out. We had,
Starting point is 00:20:55 it was BG on the scene. It was Richie McGinnis. It was Julio Rosas. It was Ford Fisher. Who else was down there? Shelby. Shelby Talcott. Shelby Talcott was down there.
Starting point is 00:21:05 And then, yeah. Was Drew down there? Drew Hernandez Shelby Talcott. Shelby Talcott was down there. And then, yeah. Was Drew down there? Drew Hernandez? No. No, he wasn't? I don't remember. Who does Lives Matter show? Is that Drew?
Starting point is 00:21:11 Yeah, that's Drew. Yeah, he was there. Oh, okay. Yeah, he was there. Yeah, he might have been here. All of these guys, these reporters, all these people, if they were not there, this... They would not. Yeah, I mean, Rittenhouse would be locked up on the emotional testimony alone.
Starting point is 00:21:23 But it is... Like, I have personal experience with the no cross-prosecution thing. It's scary to me that we're at a point where during the criminal proceedings for Kyle Rittenhouse determining whether or not he was acting in self-defense, we're getting evidence of other crimes committed by a ton of other people. And it's actually starting to sound like the crimes were committed against kyle but he's the one on trial it's scary and there's unfortunately no way to remedy it unless this judge intervenes afterwards he's a good judge though he seems to be pretty good and he might he might look he's a smart judge because you don't intervene mid-trial that's the dumbest thing you
Starting point is 00:21:58 can do as a judge right you just hold powder because you know there's things you can do afterwards if we get a directed verdict that'd be nuts but the fear is there's gonna be a riot yeah he and he's not gonna do it he's just not gonna he you cannot take the judge the case out of the jury's hand as a judge you just can't do that even even when it goes this far like because he can always do it after right well that's what i mean yeah afterwards so one of the crazy things is that there was a – I can't remember exactly what the prosecutors were asking of the witness, but it was objected by the defense on habit and customs I think it's called. Are you familiar with that? Yeah. So he was saying objection, your honor.
Starting point is 00:22:36 It's something related to habits and customs. Can you explain what that means? Yeah, basically what happens is when you have a witness on the witness stand and you're trying to get facts into evidence, you need that witness to testify to it. Sometimes what you can say is, oh, John Q. Voter, he woke up every morning at 9 a.m., picked up his Glock, went out to the backyard and shot 17 rounds. If you can prove that he did that every day, you can allow that testimony to come in from a witness who saw it based on habit and custom. That's what that style of evidence is used for. The defense objected on these grounds, and the judge said – I would have.
Starting point is 00:23:07 He said sustained. Yeah. And the defense back-talked the judge. I'm sorry, not the defense. The prosecutor. Oh, okay. The prosecutor was asking a question. The defense objected.
Starting point is 00:23:19 The judge sustained the defense. And so the prosecutor back-talked the judge saying, but this is all habit and customs. And the judge goes, you don't need to comment on my rulings oh yeah dude oh man i've been on the receiving end of that and the giving end of that and it's uh it's cool i was reading a legal analysis from andrew bronco and he was like whoa you do not back talk the judge like is going bad for when it's going downhill, you get out of the way. And the defense attorney seems to be doing it the right way. If the judge is going after the prosecutor and ruling in your favor, you're just kind of like, all right, keep going.
Starting point is 00:23:54 I'm every day more and more shocked that this is even happening, that the trial is even happening. Should we make predictions? What do you guys think is going to happen? Man. I was saying before life in prison because they're going to convict them on the murder charges. My view initially was that
Starting point is 00:24:11 just based on what happened in the Chauvin trial, there would be no political willpower to defend principle. The jurors are going to say, I don't want to be here in the first place. The judge is going to say,
Starting point is 00:24:21 I got a million and one cases to deal with. I don't need this one. And no one is going to stick their neck out for this kid. However, the judge has been pretty fair. He's not given the defense everything they've wanted. There's been a few rulings where he's like, you know, no. They tried getting the gun charge, I think, thrown out because they say that the law specifically says it doesn't apply to 16 and 17-year-olds.
Starting point is 00:24:42 For those that aren't familiar, the law says a minor can't carry a weapon. Yeah. But it specifically says an exemption. This is what they argued. 16 and 17 year olds are exempt from this. And the judge was like, that's for the jury to decide on the charge. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Then they also tried saying the reckless endangerment charge should be, should it should like, I think they're trying to get it thrown out, arguing that Richie McGinnis is the reason for the reckless endangerment charge. I think it's reckless endangerment. That when Rittenhouse was firing on Rosenbaum,
Starting point is 00:25:08 Richie McGinnis was right there and he created a reasonable harm to Richie. Thus, there's the charge. But they specifically say in the law, if you're acting in self-defense, you did not create a reckless situation or whatever. And the judge said, that'll be for the jury to decide. So he wasn't going to give them exactly what they wanted. But there was an instance where the defense accidentally referred to Grosskreutz as a victim. And the judge, and he was like, oh, I'm sorry. And the judge was like, strike that comment. They're not, what's at trial right now is whether or not these
Starting point is 00:25:39 people are victims. So when I started seeing how the judge was acting, when he said, you can't call these people victims, but you can't call them rioters. I was like, wow, like I'm actually impressed. He's willing to stand up for this. The crazy thing, I don't know if you saw this was when he ragged on Jeffrey Toobin. It was, that's his name, right? Jeffrey Toobin. Yeah. Because they were ragging on the judge and the judge was like, I have followed this to the law. Who is the media to come and start criticizing the work we're doing? They're undermining this court proceeding. And that's really, really bad.
Starting point is 00:26:11 So I see all that stuff. And now my prediction is probably I think they'll get him on the gun charge. I think they're going to get him on a misdemeanor gun charge. I'm not a lawyer. So you're the lawyer. So actually, we used to be. Recovering. Recovering. Yeah. But it sounds like they'll get him on a manslaughter thing out of fear. Yeah. gun charge i'm not a lawyer so you're the lawyer so actually used to be recovering recovering yeah but it sounds like they'll get him on a manslaughter thing out of fear yeah a version
Starting point is 00:26:30 of manslaughter maybe involuntary manslaughter and something like that some sort of some sort of act that the jury can be like look we convicted him now over to you judge for sentencing so the judge can still give him a stiff sentence or he can be like here's 10 years of probation and i think uh so far we're still only on the state's case right it does the state presents their case on the defense yeah and then the state goes again goes again so i think we still have what like two weeks or probably these cases go for a while look the defense if they got everything they want and i haven't been following this case like you guys have but i probably would not put on a case if you get everything you want then and I haven't been following this case like you guys have, but I probably would not put on a case.
Starting point is 00:27:05 If you get everything you want, then you remove the state's possibility of doing a rebuttal case and just repeating their entire prosecution. And you just kind of screw the prosecution if you get the facts you want that you can argue in closing. If they acquit Rittenhouse, he can't be tried again on unrelated charges? Not in state court. In federal court, he could. But even if it's like a different charge, what if they're like, okay, now we're going to try and charge him
Starting point is 00:27:28 for something different, but from the event. So there's a whole like legal equation that goes into that. It's really hard to beat. I mean, they'd have to be like, it was a totally different series of events. We didn't know about it before.
Starting point is 00:27:38 New witnesses, new evidence, new timeline. So not going to happen. He gets acquitted. He gets acquitted. He gets acquitted. But if he gets convicted, he appeals. Oh, yeah. What do you guys think?
Starting point is 00:27:50 The evidence looks like it's defense. Like he defended himself. The dude was pulling a gun and coming at him. I mean, that guy. The first guy said, if I get you alone, I'll effing kill you. Yikes. And these are the state's witnesses it's a state's case that's what i mean it's like the conversation of if i put myself in a bear cage and then the bears
Starting point is 00:28:10 attack me and i kill the bears i was defending myself but i also put myself in the position where those bears had to die well hold on but let's let's let's let's fix the analogy what if it's not you're putting yourself in a bear cage it's that you have a gigantic silo full of honey and a bear has shown i have to protect the honey and so you're like hey this is my honey get away from me and the bear tries to kill you i've been eating a lot of honey and and and the bear says if i get you alone i'll effing kill you that i'm on guard yeah so it isn't the same as just entering a bear cage and being like oh no it's coming right for us he was there to protect the gas station and the buildings and stuff
Starting point is 00:28:48 what are your thoughts on that let's say it was a stupid thing to do to think he was going to be protecting that I mean probably not the smartest thing to do but it's whether or not he has the legal ability to do it so it doesn't affect self defense right it can
Starting point is 00:29:04 depending on the circumstances whose whose property it is. You can step in to defend anyone if you feel objectively their life is being in danger. Self-defense applies to the person. Property is a little different. If it's someone else's property, you're probably not going to get away with the self-defense argument. If it's your property that you own, that's different. Well, apparently the owners of the car place or whatever said we didn't ask for their protection so that's uh yeah that's but not a good fact for them i i think anybody who's going to come out and say it's it's like um there's
Starting point is 00:29:37 the state has nothing would be wrong you know and i and i'll say like i've been hyperbolic on instagram i'm like it's over it's like but i don't mean to say, because I mentioned this in my main video. The state does have some things, right? The guy Gage Grosskreutz testified that the only reason Rittenhouse didn't shoot him while his hands were up was that he missed, the gun misfired. And so what he said was Rittenhouse was pointing the gun at him while he had his hands up. And then Rittenhouse pulled the rail back to clear and then rechamber to chamber around. And the media is reporting it as Kyle Rittenhouse
Starting point is 00:30:13 held him at gunpoint while he reloaded the gun, which is like not what he said. But the argument is from the witness, this is what the jury heard, that Rittenhouse pulled the trigger and the gun misfired. So then he pulled the rack back to rechamber around and then fired on Gage Grosskreutz. So it's not like the state has nothing. No, they got stuff to work with. Right. I mean, you're talking about reloading a firearm that you already pointed at the target. Not reloading.
Starting point is 00:30:38 I know. But that's what the— Right. That's what their—even if I was a prosecutor in that case, that's kind of how I would describe it because you can kind of get away with the fact saying it's a reload and you want the jury to hear reload instead of the correct terminology. I want to make sure I'm being fair because the state does have their offense. But I will also point out the defense rebutted by showing there was another man who had his hands up that Rittenhouse also didn't fire upon. So if the argument from Gage was that he did but my hands were up, then it's like, well, how do you explain the other guy with his hands up? He didn't fire on either of you.
Starting point is 00:31:10 So it's like you can't claim that he was just singling you out. So I guess we'll see how that plays out. We'll see what happens as the case progresses. Gage is the guy that got his bicep blown off? Vaporized. This dude was lying the whole time. It was nuts. Those guys attacked him.
Starting point is 00:31:25 One guy came at him with a skateboard like he was going to smash him over the head with a skateboard. He did smash him over the head and they showed video of it and they even asked the detective, where's the skateboard? And he was like, oh, I don't know. It's like, isn't that important to have? And it's like we didn't look for it. They asked, did you do a swab for
Starting point is 00:31:42 DNA on the rifle to see if Rosenbaum had grabbed it? And he's like, no. What? We didn't do any of those things. And the other thing the defense brought up is he's like, you filed charges against Rittenhouse before the investigation was completed? And they were like, yes. And he's like, so you didn't have the full facts of the case before you filed charges? And he goes, yeah, but that's typical.
Starting point is 00:32:00 That's usually what happens in state court. So the difference between state court and federal court, state court, you charge a defendant and then you build your case. Federal court, you build your case, then you charge your defendant. And I think this is fair to point out too. The detective said we have a high-profile homicide where people see video of it. So charges are laid and then we start putting together the investigation. But I think it's obvious to anybody who's being honest that they overcharged. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Calling it a homicide seems – they got to prove that. They can't just say it's obvious to anybody who's being honest that they overcharged. Oh, yeah. Calling it a homicide seems – they got to prove that. They can't just say it's – Homicide just means a person killed a person. Yeah. Oh, I see. It doesn't mean you intentionally murdered somebody. This is what people don't understand. Activists don't get this.
Starting point is 00:32:37 They'll be like a guy was killed by a cop. They ruled it a homicide. They'll go, whoa. That proves it. It just means someone died. Someone died as a result of human action, I believe, right? So a homicide may not be illegal. Homicide is never illegal.
Starting point is 00:32:50 It's just interesting. You're dead. Circumstances of your death, yeah. What does it mean specifically? It means person killed person? Yeah. Yeah. And then accidental death, you know, suicide means person killed self.
Starting point is 00:33:02 And regicide means person killed king. Also known as a manslayer. That is the word. I'm pretty sure it's regicide. It is regicide. Tyrion Lannister. Patricide. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Regicide. Love it. Yeah. Patricide. Matricide. Words for all of these things. Retricide. Well, let's talk about the Steele dossier, man.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Yes. So we have this story from the Washington Post. And this is a little bit more in the weeds on the politics. But this is really, really important. So for those that are just tuning in or who are not familiar with what's going on with the Steele dossier and the Durham investigation, I'll put it simply. For years, there were lies from Democrats and the media about Trump colluding with Russia. None of it was true.
Starting point is 00:33:42 And now it looks like people are actually, the people who perpetrated the hoax for years are starting to get charged. And so we have this story from the Washington Post. Indictment of Steele dossier source is more bad news for multiple media outlets. Let me just break this down very simply for those that may not understand the in the wheat stuff. The media lied. They're caught. Political operatives lied. they're caught political operatives lied they're caught politicians lied and got caught and cash you have a lot of information about this man yeah so look the steel dossier and i don't think i've ever actually told anyone this but when i was running the russia gate investigation for chairman nunes initially the media wanted to call it the the trump dossier and i said no no no we're gonna call it the dossier. So because I said this thing is fraudulent.
Starting point is 00:34:26 So if you're going to tie it to someone, tie it to the author. And we changed the narrative real quick in the early days and it stuck. Wow. And I actually have never told that to anybody. And so, look, I can go on and on about the Russiagate hoax. I spent two years of my life living it and then it got invalidated ig and now this basically if you want to know what happened watch the plot against the president we're in it it's super easy to watch and understand if you want to get up to speed on russia gate the steel dossier is the heart of russia gate what happens the democrats and the
Starting point is 00:34:59 hillary clinton campaign go out and pay a foreign national, Christopher Steele, a retired British spy, to go and get dirt from Russia against then-candidate Trump. The problem is Christopher Steele hadn't set foot in Russia in 20 years. Fact. Then we're like, wait, wait a second. Who paid for all this? Oh, Hillary Clinton. They paid the law firm, who was also previously indicted just before this one, Perkins Coie, $10 million. So now you have the political campaign, a political operative, as you said, and the lawyers now teaming up together with fraudulent information. What do they do with that?
Starting point is 00:35:35 They don't just dump it in the media. That would have been one thing to go after your opponent and just dirty him up in usual political tricks. They take the FBI and the DOJ and they hijack the surveillance process. And they basically say, here's this information from this guy. We're not going to present the court, the judge, with all of it. We're going to give you pieces of it. We're going to keep exculpatory information of innocence out. We're going to prevent the court from hearing who paid for it and that it went to Hillary Clinton and her lawyers.
Starting point is 00:36:00 And then we're going to go surveil a presidential candidate because that's what we want to do. They ultimately – they didn't impeach him on russiagate but they ukraine ukraine gate was and that was insane too but for the russia stuff so this this article we have in the washington post is from eric wempel he's a media critic and he's been doing a really good job going after the media for their malpractice for the malfeasance it's shocking that he is i know i know yeah yeah this is the washington post this is this is democracy dies in darkness going after the media for their malpractice, for their malfeasance. It's shocking that he is. I know, I know. Yeah, yeah. This is the Washington Post.
Starting point is 00:36:26 This is democracy dies in darkness. But he recently did a story about Joe Rogan and Ivermectin. And he was like, CNN's acting like an advocacy, like activist organization by lying about this stuff. So I'm not, I don't want to rehash, I don't want to bring all that stuff up just yet. We're talking about, you know, Russiagate and stuff. But he opens right away by saying MSNBC host Rachel Maddow in December 2017 aired a special report on the Trump Russia dossier compiled by former British
Starting point is 00:36:53 intelligence officer Christopher Steele. The document claimed Maddow relied on information coming from Steele's deep cover sources inside Russia. A federal indictment unsealed Thursday has something to say about the quality of those sources. It charges Igor Danchenko, the dossier's primary intelligence collector, with making false statements to the FBI about his interactions with sources consulted for the dossier. When Trump first got elected, there was a guy who tweeted, we're going to impeach him. I can't remember his name. Do you remember his name? It was one of the lawyers no no it was one of the lawyers on ukraine okay yeah yeah yeah so we're not allowed to say the name of the whistleblower in that case just so you know that youtube will delete the video i won't say it isn't that insane that's that's censoring but but let's let's let's let's
Starting point is 00:37:39 you know we'll get to the heart of of what this is russiagate was was for how many years of lying five years of lying five Five years of lying? Five. We're on five. And you're right. The reason this article is so important is who's Christopher Steele? Who cares about this guy? He got paid all this money.
Starting point is 00:37:53 He was just doing dirty tricks for a political party. Okay, fine. One thing. Where did he get all this information from? This guy. They are now saying – the Washington Post is now admitting based on Durham's indictment, the special counsel's indictment, that the mountain of information that the source Steele got from his primary guy in Russia was total BS, totally fraudulent. So their entire investigation, they, the FBI's entire investigation, just got gutted. And if I can juxtapose those two things, right, this Washington Post article, and we all know who David Ignatius is.
Starting point is 00:38:23 He wrote a hit piece on me three months ago on the cover of the Washington Post. He wrote a hit piece on me because he knew the Russiagate conspiracy was unraveling. We had proven it to be defective. So what did he do? Headline, chief investigator for Russiagate is possibly leaking classified information to the media. So now I get a wave of media hits coming at me the next day not just in america but overseas saying cash patel leaks classified information this is what they do so it's shocking to me that the washington post would let this ride but i'm happy that they did you would think
Starting point is 00:38:55 there would be some repercussions for lying through their teeth and and just admitting so many important facts i remember looking at this story from the very beginning being like, okay, intelligence agents, sources say, government sources say. I'm like, where's the evidence? Where's the documents? Where's any photos? Where's any document? Where's anything that proves that this is legitimate?
Starting point is 00:39:16 I was like, there's nothing here. I call bunk. I don't believe this. The intelligence agencies have lied before. And they kept saying, well, there's 17 intelligence agencies. There's 17 of them. I'm like, I don't believe any of this. And I got called a crazy conspiracy theorist. I got listed by the Washington Post as a Russian asset as working for the Russians. By the way, I'm Polish. For Polish people, they get very offended when they get compared to Russians.
Starting point is 00:39:38 But the Washington Post literally listed my news organization, We Are Change, as a Russian asset organization because I wasn't buying the official story. And not only did they lie through their teeth about everything, they attacked anyone who even dared question it. They wrecked lives. It's a cult. Okay, so I see the memes all day with like Trump's cult and
Starting point is 00:39:58 Trump's cult and I'm like, yeah, yeah, but is Trump's cult at the Washington Post writing fake news for five years? Yeah. Trying to get people impeached and ruining people's lives? I'm sorry, man. You get a bunch of people showing up at the grassy knoll or whatever, thinking JFK Jr. is coming back. It has no impact on our federal level politics. It was a couple hundred people. I don't know why I should care about that. When the media, when ABC, when CNN, when Washington Post and the New York Times, when they're winning Pulitzer Prizes for making up fake news.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Are they going to get that retracted? Are they going to get that prize rejected, rescinded, whatever? Probably not. You know what scares me the most about this story is how absolutely devastating it is, how it contributed to the political divide as it worsens today, and how it's very difficult to understand let me let me follow up with two things one in 2017 now everybody's like cash trump's right hand man whatever do you know when i i had not met president trump spoken to him campaign forum i was a career
Starting point is 00:40:55 government guy so the two years i ran russiagate i didn't have never spoken to the man nor communicated with him i just ran an investigation now in retrospect, they're saying Kash Patel was President Trump's best friend running the Russiagate investigation. It's pretty hard to do when you've never met the man. Now, the other thing that you brought up that I'd like to highlight, it's the lives that were wrecked. And I'll leave the names out of it. We interviewed a lot of witnesses. One individual, a father, right? He had to utilize his entire life savings just for lawyers because he got called into the committee by adam schiff to testify about nothing meaningful his daughter relapsed uh recovering drug addict relapsed because of the coverage her father received in the media
Starting point is 00:41:40 and went into a downward spiral and almost died he then had to take a second mortgage on his house to pay for his daughter's rehab. Jeez, man. That's reality. You know, I think Adam Schiff is an evil guy. I mean, don't get me started on that guy. He's evil. Can I ask, what was happening in the intelligence agencies? Because we kept hearing 17 of them all agree.
Starting point is 00:42:00 They're all on board. They know there was Russian collusion 100%. And that's the headline that was running in the mainstream media everyone was still looking for evidence but they were running with it like like it was just the truth from god uh what was happening because there was no pushback at all that i've seen from any of these intelligence agencies to be like hey hey uh actually we don't have nothing here yeah so it didn't come till halfway through trump's term when we shifted around leadership in the intelligence community but in the beginning the first two years,
Starting point is 00:42:26 you basically had a willing media like you're talking about and Adam Schiff and people like that were leaking classified information to say, well, we can't get into the details. But Trump colluded. Trump had a P part. The envelope. Trump did this. The envelope. Reading the Steele dossier into congressional testimony as if it was the Bible. You know, just things like that. and you get your headlines, and the media gets their headlines, and they all wanted to take out Donald Trump. Didn't they claim that he, like, peed on a bed in a hotel or something? You want to know something hilarious about that?
Starting point is 00:42:55 So I said, you know, I was talking to Devin. I said, look, we've got to do two things as a former prosecutor. Follow the money. Somebody paid for this thing. Let's go get bank records, which is how I was able to prove Fusion GPS and the Clintons paid for this thing let's go get bank records which is how i was able to prove fusion gps and the clintons paid for all this right and they wanted to crucify me when i took him to federal court but the other thing is i said look this guy this is pretty crazy trump's having sex parties in russia like i don't know that you can get away with it without a lot of
Starting point is 00:43:19 people finding out so let's call the hotel i called the hotel the hotel does not have that presidential suite that this infamous christopher steel this career spy slotted into his steel dossier i said if the if the hotel room doesn't even exist do you think the rest of this dossier is credibility this guy can't even get the hotel room right we were right it's crazy yeah there's nothing there's nothing there and then this is this should tell you the huge amounts of lies that the government, along with some intelligence agencies, some people within it, along with the mainstream media, could all in unison work together to fool everyone. Because everyone was buying it. They didn't fool you. Well, yeah, but then they ostracized and attacked anyone who wasn't buying the
Starting point is 00:44:05 official story. And then this was one of the reasons why Wikipedia censored me and depersoned me on their platform. It was because of that Washington Post article that said I was a Russian asset, which I wasn't. I mean, there was no evidence suggesting this at all. And it was just smear mongering by
Starting point is 00:44:21 smear merchants who get off at ruining people's lives. But for a journalist who get off at ruining people's lives uh but but for a journalist who was around at that time all you have to do is ask some questions being like okay let's let's actually find out what really happened here and and and let's barely any people did that let's let's talk about uh uh we'll advance from here talk about ukraine gate so this is where they actually impeached donald trump with the lies about ukraine and so this is where they actually impeach donald trump with the lies about ukraine and the crazy thing was i was tracking the news i was looking at european news sources i was looking at the history of the founder of burisma this is the company where
Starting point is 00:44:54 hunter biden the president's son was a board member and my conclusion on this was like okay first i'm i i entertained russiagate you know like i'm just like reading the news i'm like wow this is crazy stuff i actually met with one of the most high profile russiagate. I'm just reading the news. I'm like, wow, this is crazy stuff. I actually met with one of the most high-profile Russiagate journalists and asked them to their face, looked in their eyes, do you think Trump actually did this? And they were like, without a doubt, he did. And I was like, wow. And I'm like, I'm at a bar with one of these mainstream media journalists telling me, like, bro, we have the proof. I've seen it. I'm like, wow.
Starting point is 00:45:21 It's all fake. So then UkraineG gate comes along and this is where you know trump apparently sees a video on twitter of joe biden being like if you want the aid you got to fire the prosecutor so trump just is like i wonder what that's about i'm not i'm not necessarily trying to rehash ukraine gate but to point out you end up with these journalists like matt taibi yeah great formerly of rolling stone a real journalist and he's a liberal guy yeah and all of a sudden now he's an alt-right grifter and same with aaron mate right aaron mate he's a
Starting point is 00:45:49 progressive yeah he i've done both those guys i've interviewed both both those guys done podcasts with both those guys we could not be more politically opposed to each other but there used to be a time when you could be a real journalist as you're talking about and if there's corruption or illegality, you would call it out if it was right or left. Those seem to be the only guys on the left that want to do it anymore. Well, this is the crazy thing, right? Jimmy Dore. Are you familiar with Jimmy Dore?
Starting point is 00:46:12 No. Jimmy Dore is, I think, I'm not trying to be unfair, but I think he's a socialist. I think so. He's like a Bernie Sanders supporter. Yeah, yeah, he's far left, but he's honest, and he calls out the establishment, he calls out all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:46:26 He gets called alt-right. It's the craziest thing when you're like the Democratic establishment is corrupt, and they're doing all these awful things. The weirdest thing to me is when I get people who don't understand what's going on. This is one of the challenges we face. It's really hard to understand Russiagate. It is. So many people, Fiona Hill, who is she? What is her involvement?
Starting point is 00:46:44 And now Igor who? Donchenko? Who are these people? What is her involvement? And now Igor who? Donchenko? Who are these people? What does this mean? Ukraine gate, really complicated. But when you follow journalists like Matt Taibbi, who's a liberal, they have no choice but to say he's right wing because here's a guy who's always been kind of a lefty dude, a liberal, challenging their narrative. But regular people believe it. And it's crazy and that's
Starting point is 00:47:06 what i'm talking about with the course correction i think you're talking about that the media needs to undertake and people are like is that ever going to happen and i think that's a multi-year lift you know guys like tv and mate right now are helping try to correct the record um and they're getting a bigger audience and as are you through your show but you know you're right russiagate super complicated but the only thing you need to know about what is Russiagate, literally, the media helped perpetrate the biggest fraud in presidential history because a political campaign paid
Starting point is 00:47:32 them and their cronies to do it. They got caught. You were in the Trump administration from the beginning, right? Halfway through. This jammed up the first, what, two years of the Trump administration? You guys all lived it. I was living it differently on capitol hill getting called a genocidal dictator literally in the media um because i was the guy exposing the truth like
Starting point is 00:47:53 facts i was putting facts out through the right process and not leaking classified information and so you know that that is just they spent the first two years basically fending they the trump administration fending off they're saying i, I'm not in bed with Putin. Looking at Ukrainegate, this is where Trump got impeached the first time. Second time was just ridiculous because he wasn't even in the office anymore. But Ukrainegate was absolutely insane. I took a few minutes to go over the initial reports, and I was like, wow, this is a crazy story. You had – long story short, for those that aren't familiar, this is where they impeached Trump the
Starting point is 00:48:29 first time. They claimed he was abusing his power to dig up dirt on Joe Biden because Joe Biden was his rival, even though Joe Biden hadn't announced he was running for office and wasn't officially running for office. And when you actually look at the evidence, Matt Taibbi, who we've mentioned several times, an amazing journalist, found there was a criminal investigation from Victor Shokin, the prosecutor, into Michael O. Zlotchevsky, the founder of this energy company where Joe Biden's son was on the board. The media lied over and over again saying there was no investigation. It's not true. Ignore this. Trump is abusing his power.
Starting point is 00:49:03 It was really crazy for me because like when when Russiagate was happening, I was like, wow, the New York Times, you know, they said this. Incredible. Then Ukraine comes along and I'm like, wait a minute. The evidence actually proves they're lying. And they released the call transcript between Trump and the Ukraine premier where it literally showed there was no quid pro quo. And if you take that and put it next to joe biden's quid pro quo for his son getting advisory contract in ukraine saying i'm gonna fire the prosecutor or you're not getting your seven million and eight i mean like there was billion it was was it a billion dollars a billion yeah whatever it was but like that's quid pro quo
Starting point is 00:49:39 joe biden should be impeached if the republicans win back the house the first thing they should do is impeach joe biden and it's not just the first thing they should do is impeach Joe Biden. And it's not just the Ukraine stuff. It is flying his son on Air Force Two to China for private equity deals. How much did he make? I forget, like $2 million, $3 million? I can't remember. I don't know if they actually did the deal, but there was one report.
Starting point is 00:49:57 I could be getting the details wrong, so fact check me on this one, guys. It's been a while since I reported on this. But they received a forgivable loan of like $5 million or something. So it was like they had a meeting and said, we're not going to do business, but here's a forgivable loan. I want a forgivable loan. Yeah, I'd love to get a $5 million forgivable loan. It was something like that.
Starting point is 00:50:14 But you also have now the photos emerging of Joe Biden with Hunter Biden's business associates when he said, I never talked to them. And you have new revelations from the Hunter Biden laptop showing that Joe Biden and Hunter shared a bank account. This is so far beyond. And I think it's really obvious. The Trump supporters called it out when this was going down. They said the left is projecting what they did onto Trump as a defense to stop the investigation of themselves. No. And this is the biggest bottom line takeaway from all of this. for five years everybody said trump was colluding with russia to corrupt an election and the u.s government what we have now shown not we durham and our investigations have shown is that the only people that colluded with russians were the hillary clinton campaign the democratic party and certain fbi individuals including james comey
Starting point is 00:50:58 andy mccabe and the likes of those people that should be indicted i mean that's how crazy we this scenario is. And that's why people were like, we can't believe what you're saying. And this is what people want. This is what everybody when I go around the country, they're like, look, I don't need to understand Russiagate. I don't need to understand Ukraine gate. What I need to understand is where's the accountability? Why is there a different set of rules for them? And why is there another set of rules for me if I screw up? I think we're in trouble because they're getting away with it. I don't know where we'll go with the Durham investigation. Maybe they i think we're in trouble because they're getting away with it i don't know where we'll go with the derm investigation maybe i think we're in a good place you think they'll
Starting point is 00:51:30 actually end up going after you know these these these key players in this i feel like they'll throw some people under the bus and let the the big dogs get away with well look don't get me wrong i don't think hillary clinton's getting indicted or james comey's getting indicted but i do think andy mccabe lisa page peterzok, and Fusion GPS and all these people are in the crosshairs. And I don't think that they're now starting it. Durham already started it. He used 20- and 30- and 40-page indictments that are normally two to three pages long. Why did he do that?
Starting point is 00:51:55 Because it's the only way he can legally speak to the American public in an indictment to say this is what I'm doing. And he laid out 10 people per indictment, like a mob-style conspiracy. He supported it with bank documents saying, I've got the documents. I didn't say, I don't have something that says I have a phone call that John paid Joe 10 bucks. I've got a million-dollar bank wire. That's how he's built this case
Starting point is 00:52:16 and the one that we just talked about. So I think he's going to flip up. I was talking to someone recently who told me that they viewed themselves as a Democrat if they had to choose and then later in the conversation said they were quitting their job because they didn't want to get vaccine boosters man like every other month or whatever and it was like endless and i was like but the democratic party are the ones who are enforcing those and pushing those and
Starting point is 00:52:39 it's the republicans for the most part who are rejecting them i'm not saying that's that's a good reason just to vote republican but like if you're telling if you're talking to me, and the most pressing issue to you is, you don't like the vaccine mandates to the point where you'll quit your job. Why would you then vote for these people? And the reason I bring this up in this context is, if you've paid, if you've been paying attention, you know, the vaccine mandates aren't stopping, right? So the NBA just mandated booster shots for it is a mandate. mandate now if you're in the nba referees players coaches everyone's got to get the latest booster and you're gonna have to get into booster again at what point do people wake up and say wow hey i've been lied to the entire time when it comes to the vaccine mandate stuff
Starting point is 00:53:21 it's become so painfully obvious no matter how many times 15 days to slow the spread becomes 20 months becomes now you gotta get boosters and I gotta wear the mask and get the boosters. But when it comes to the Russia stuff, the problem is it's hard to see through. When it comes to the Democrats, Adam Schiff lying over and over again. Was it Clapper as well? He was lying on TV about this stuff. They all lied about this over and over and over again. It's really hard for me to explain to someone. I'll go to someone who's like, I'm a Democrat. And I'll say, let me explain to you Russiagate. And they'll go, I'm never going to follow that. So how do we get people to finally realize, look, the Republicans are pretty bad, right? I think the Republican
Starting point is 00:53:57 party is not doing, you know, I'll put it this way. I think 20% of the Republican party is doing all right. And the majority in the leadership is like, where are they? And sitting on their hands while the Democrats go nuts with Adam Schiff, with Clapper, with Biden, with unconstitutional edicts, with lying to the public, lying to've literally never been a political guy. I've been a national security career guy for 16 years in government. And then all of a sudden I became a political hack and I don't even know how to run a campaign. How do you fix this? How do you how do you take what you just said and relate to the American people? I think you need to do two things. One, Devin Nunes told me a long time ago. He's like, when you said the truth a thousand times and you're getting tired of saying it, that means you've just begun saying it. So we've been saying it for five years.
Starting point is 00:54:48 We haven't stopped. He and I have not stopped. And our close allies have not stopped, right? Because we knew it was the truth. And you have to show the American public the truth, not just tell them, which is why we declassified all those documents and wrote the memos that are now finally coming out. The other thing you need to correct the media. And that's literally a multi-year lift. But here's what happened, right? And I'll give you a perfect example. Devin and I got so harassed in the media, we got defamed. So what did we start doing?
Starting point is 00:55:14 We started suing. I'm suing Politico, CNN, New York Times for $150 million for defamation. Those lawsuits are live. Glad to hear it. And I will put in a shameless plug for fightwithcash.com. Basically, when we were going around the country, everybody said, I want to sue. I've been defamed. I plug for fightwithcash.com basically when we were going around the country everybody said i want to sue i've been defamed i've been def platformed how do we do it i don't have the money so i said all right i'll start it i'll raise the money and
Starting point is 00:55:33 i'll go pay for your lawyers so check it out that's what we're doing awesome and the only the only way the media understands anything is if you hit them with a seven figure you know bullet to their bottom line then they start paying attention. It's challenging, though. You need damages. Yeah. So for a lot of people, it's hard to prove damages. They can lie about you, destroy your reputation.
Starting point is 00:55:54 The crazy thing is the New York Times can lie about you. It can have a serious impact on your career to the point where you lose jobs, but proving your career was negatively impacted by them. I'm good because I got it covered in space. My lawyer won't want me to talk about it right now. But what I'm trying to encourage people to do is it's difficult. You're totally right. But it's not impossible and it's worth doing.
Starting point is 00:56:17 And if you want to help us out, then go to FightWithCash and send us your case. We'll review it for free. And if we think it's a case, we'll get you the money for your lawyers wherever in the country you are and we'll file it for you. That's the whole way. You've got to go after these guys. We talked about this with James O'Keefe a little while ago that we were calling it the People's Defamation Defense Fund. And he launched Project Veritas Legal to review people's claims and then take on whatever cases they can. The challenging thing is I think he was mentioning that they get inundated with all these people claiming they were defamed, but only a few of them are like –
Starting point is 00:56:46 Sure. There are very few that are actionable. Absolutely. And James does great work, Project Veritas. We were out in Devon's district together on the Nunes Freedom Tour earlier this year. We had a great time. He's doing a lot of good work on people who are fired improperly. That's not something I deal with, but that's something about you actually lost your source of income because of some political overreach or some defamatory conduct.
Starting point is 00:57:07 And I think he's doing some great work there. And, of course, you saw what happens when you're over the target. You get the FBI to raid your office. Yeah, we have this somewhere. I'm trying to find the article. We also saw what happened to the Covington case. Oh, perfect example. It was a huge case with a huge settlement that we still don't even know the full ramifications of but i bet there was a bunch of people at cnn being like hey uh we can't be that bad and i think they just
Starting point is 00:57:31 continued to be even worse in my opinion let's let's talk about how serious things are getting this is interesting we have a story from fox news jonathan turley says fbi's involvement in alleged theft of ashley b Biden's diary raises legitimate concern. The FBI raided the home of Project Veritas founder James O'Keefe over a stolen diary belonging to President Biden's daughter. The New York Post editorial board, I think, said this is beginning to look like a political prosecution of an opposition journalist. So for those that don't know the story, Project Veritas apparently at some point came into contact with Ashley Biden is Joe Biden's daughter,
Starting point is 00:58:05 I believe. Correct. Yes. Yeah. Which I didn't even know he had a daughter till like a week. Right. Yeah. So some Veritas journalists came into possession, I believe they did, of the diary and they
Starting point is 00:58:15 said we couldn't corroborate. So we tried turning it over. The FBI raided James O'Keefe's house. I believe it was his house as well as several of his to get the diary of reporters. I don't know why. Like what their claim is they had to search Warren. Did several of his – To get the diary, was it? Of reporters. I don't know why. Like what their claim is they had a search warrant. Did they get the diary? I'm asking because I wasn't tracking this.
Starting point is 00:58:32 I don't know for sure what their grounds for searching for it may have been. It was part of a federal investigation into the stolen diary of Ashley Biden. The New York Times reported the raid took place early Saturday morning, just days after the homes of two Project Veritas associates were also the subject of search warrants. Quote, why would the FBI be coming in on this? Turley asked on America Reports. Project Veritas said it didn't run the information and notified local enforcement.
Starting point is 00:58:56 So there was a legitimate concern when the FBI becomes involved in this type of story as to whether it is going outside of those navigational beacons that we use to judge whether they are acting independently. So I don't know if they were looking for the diary. Perhaps they were. A lot of people are saying this proves the diary is now true. It's legitimately the diary, in which case there's a lot of really messed up stuff in there.
Starting point is 00:59:18 So I was just going to say, can I play devil's advocate real quick? Yeah. They might, maybe, I doubt it, but maybe if the FBIbi was doing righteous investigations in this case needed information that's only found in the diary that can corroborate some pretty nasty stuff they're there because we know there's an open investigation against hunter biden it's still open in delaware it hasn't closed i'm just playing devil's advocate no for sure i'm pretty sure it's against joe biden like it's actually talking about her dad and like messed up stuff
Starting point is 00:59:43 yeah a little messed up yeah messed up stuff i don, a little messed up. Yeah, messed up stuff. I don't know. I mean, I'd like to believe the FBI heard about the diary and said, we need to get this because it proves Joe Biden did something wrong. But it actually just sounds like the FBI is like, quick, protect the president. Go after journalists. And that's exactly what it looks like, unfortunately. So this is crazy. Look, isn't the FBI going after the Russiagate hoaxers?
Starting point is 01:00:07 Well, John Durham is. I wouldn't say the FBI is. I definitely wouldn't say Chris Wray and this FBI are doing anything to help correct the wrongs that were implemented under James Comey. But I would say John Durham is by indicting these people and making this information public, which is very different. So it's special. It's special counsel. It's scary. It's like 15 investigators that are huddled.
Starting point is 01:00:27 They're cordoned off from the rest of the FBI. They don't report to anyone but John Durham. John Durham reports to no one but the attorney general. It's a pretty close knit circle. And so we can combine a few of the segments we did earlier today. We have the FBI going after Project Veritas. We have the FBI having evidence in the Kenosha incident and not releasing it.
Starting point is 01:00:48 Apparently they lost it. This aerial footage. They lost it? Yeah, they apparently, and then they recovered it recently. Then we've got, apparently there's reports about when it comes to January 6th,
Starting point is 01:00:58 the FBI, I could be fact-checking on this one, guys. They provided information to HBO, but not to the defense or the defendants. So the FBI had information relating to it that wasn't released. Fact check me on this one, guys. They provided information to HBO but not to the defense or the defendants. So the FBI had information relating to it that wasn't released. It really sounds like the FBI as a whole is like rogue, operating totally politically and targeting anyone who opposes the establishment party, the Democrats for the most part. And the neocon allies.
Starting point is 01:01:22 And that's a hard argument to rebut. And I'll only say this, that a lot of the guys I work with are still there. They're not running it. Every case you mentioned is one of the highest profile cases the FBI is handling right now. So it goes to the director's doorstep, right? Nothing happens in any of those cases without the director of the FBI knowing. And I do still think that at the top of the FBI, there are people that don't want the American public to see what actually happened. They don't want them to see evidence of innocence, like in the Rittenhouse case, or they're talking about the Jan 6 incidences. There's what, like 10,000 hours of footage they
Starting point is 01:01:53 haven't turned over to Jan 6 defendants? Are these people just like they're in the cult? They're true believers of the propaganda or are they the puppet masters pushing the lies? Here's what I say. I say this about Millie and DOD and we can talk about all that and all. But 99% of the people who sign up to serve, sign up to serve the mission. The very few at the top that have been corrupted, like the James Comeys and the Chris Rays and the Rod Rosensteins and the like, they think the mission exists to serve them. And that's how I put it to people. And that's the only way I've been able to successfully explain it. To think that the FBI is doing the right thing here to go after wrongdoing inside the Biden administration is very optimistic. No, I know.
Starting point is 01:02:32 That's why I said I was playing devil's advocate. They did hold on to that Hunter Biden laptop for a while. And there's so many incidences of the FBI looking the other way. I mean, there was documents stolen from Trump, and the FBI looking the other way. I mean, there was there's documents stolen from Trump and the FBI never intervened, but they're intervening on this particular case that could make the president look bad. It really shows you that, you know, the agency is definitely becoming more and more political because when you when you read the headlines, I remember when I read the headline, it sets a chilling effect. It's meant to scare you. It's meant to put fear in
Starting point is 01:03:04 people and actual journalists who are going out there, putting their necks on the line, saying that, hey, I'm going to have the FBI break down my door if I try to break a story, a legitimate story. tried to do what the mainstream media used to do, and is still in jail for it. I mean, that's a crazy story that I believe has a long time coming for some actual justice that hasn't been there. Yeah, Julian Assange, the whole mother. Did you have anything to do with Julian Assange? Not personally, no. I didn't work on those cases. I probably saw the documents, but I didn't work on those cases. I probably saw the documents, but I didn't work on them. It's a good example of where a lot of us, a lot of people who are not Republicans, not traditional conservatives, thought Trump missed a huge opportunity.
Starting point is 01:03:54 There was Ross Ulbricht. There was also Julian Assange, people he could have pardoned. And instead he's like – who did he pardon? Like the former mayor of Detroit who was like crooked or something? Some rapper. Didn't he? People at the end of the administration and I stayed through the whole, through the end and people, and I had not, I was the chief of staff at DOD running DOD at the end trying to figure out Afghanistan and everything else.
Starting point is 01:04:14 People would be calling me. They'd be like, Hey, can you get me a, you know, I know so-and-so, can I get a presidential pardon? I'm like, what? What do you want me to do? Like I'm in the, you know, the military, like I'm not. And also pardons. They have some use, but it's a really dirty business.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Every administration always pardons. Clinton, Obama, they're pardoning terrorists. They're pardoning cronies. Why? Andrew Cuomo. He pardoned a whole bunch of really nasty people right before he went out of office. And I think that's what makes him. They owe favors, I guess. Somebody gave him a kickback or what?
Starting point is 01:04:44 They just continue to politicize the apparatus that's supposed to serve the people. It's money, man. Well, yeah. Look, you're on your way out of an executive office and someone's like, hey, in three years, I can write you a check for $100,000. You're like, pardoned. Boom. Or remember when I wrote you that check for $50 million back then. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:01 I funded your super PAC to the tune of $50 million. Who do you want to pardon who would fill it out to this person that's why i wanted nothing to do with that business this is crazy about project veritas though um i'm i'm i don't i want to be careful how i say this but james o'keefe is very brave because he's got the most powerful people in the world mad at him yeah i know what that's like yeah isn't it weird though i mean powerful people in the world mad at him. Yeah. I know what that's like. Yeah. Isn't it weird, though?
Starting point is 01:05:28 I mean, you're in the Trump administration. You were in a powerful position, and you were still being assailed, essentially. Non-stop. When I went over to DOD, I mean, Adam Schiff hasn't given up, and he never will, but that's fine. I know every time he attacks me, I'm doing the right thing. So he decided to give me his vendetta subpoena for Jan 6. It's going to cost me a fortune, but I know I'm doing the right thing. So he decided to give me his vendetta subpoena for Jan 6. It's going to cost me a fortune, but I know I'm doing the right thing. That dude is evil. I got nothing to hide.
Starting point is 01:05:49 So I don't want you to give away too many details on things you can't talk about, but how does it end up costing you money if they subpoena you? Lawyers. I got to go hire lawyers, a team of lawyers, to go in there and walk me through the entire process of reviewing documents, preparing for testimony, flying them in, then having them there. Got to get clearances turned back on. You just have a security clearance. Oh, wow. All these logistics. You start turning the till, lawyers at $500, $700 an hour.
Starting point is 01:06:14 So what would happen if you didn't get any lawyers? Well, I mean, that would be dumb because then I'd be going over there unprepared, not ready to testify into not a courtroom but a venue full of Adam Schiff and his cronies. And that would just go poorly. And that's what they do. They hit you with these. So they take you off mission, like for me, fight with Cash and everything else I'm trying to do. And then they're like, well, it's going to cost them a fortune.
Starting point is 01:06:38 So here you go. And here's the kicker, right? No one called me and said, hey, Cash, do you want to come and testify? Will you testify? Have you written a letter? Ask me to to do it i've got nothing to hide i'll always tell the truth about jan 6 but they didn't do it on purpose so i don't know if you can comment on this but is this why steve bannon is like saying screw off uh i think steve he's got a little different different uh approach to this um and i think he's doing it because he just doesn't care um and he doesn't
Starting point is 01:07:06 respect the authority of the committee now whether or not i have respect for any of the members on the committee putting that aside i still have respect for the institution of congress where i used to work and i would like to actually honor that but these people are they know the definition of evil yeah and when you're if you're somebody who actually reads the news and you're an honest person, regardless of your politics, you can recognize Adam Schiff as an evil, evil man. A hundred percent. I don't like saying evil because I don't like using that word lightly. But I mean, genuinely, when, you know, what did he do? You mentioned earlier he held up an envelope claiming, in the envelope is evidence of Russiagate making it up.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Yep. You mentioned earlier he held up an envelope claiming, in the envelope is evidence of Russiagate making it up. We learned in these private hearings, he was like, we've heard all the evidence, and then the transcripts come out, and it's like, never happened. He's just straight up lying to people. Oh, the phone records. The phone records. He released phone records of an American journalist and you? And me.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Incredible. Look, it was John Solomon. He's an American journalist. Adam Schiff released his private information. Mine too. And yours. Can I tell you what happened after stuff like that, the Jan 6 subpoena and everything like that? I got death threats.
Starting point is 01:08:13 I got multiple death threats. I got called the nastiest things I've ever been called in my life, and they asked to cut my head off repeatedly. Not asked. They said, we're going to come take out your head off. Now, I don't care. I can take it, but my family's got to read that, right? It's in, you know,
Starting point is 01:08:28 it gets out. It's in the media, but these people on Capitol Hill, they don't care. They don't care, and these people being led by the number one problem in Congress, which is Adam Schiff.
Starting point is 01:08:37 This is, it's a crazy world when you know what's really going on. When you look at the lawyer, I can't remember his name, who tweeted out, as soon as Trump got elected, we're going to impeach him. Then he ends up being one of the impeachment lawyers. They're clearly colluding and planning this from day one because they are psychopathic authoritarians who don't care about how democratic constitutional republics
Starting point is 01:09:00 are supposed to work. Well, they do if it works for them, but not if they lose. Cash, can I get your understanding on this? What do you think is happening here? What do you think is motivating these people? Do you think it's just a lust of power, or do you think there's something bigger, deeper? Do you think there's a deep state that are organizing and facilitating this? How do you quantify everything from your kind of perspective on the inside? So here's the thing, right? Politicians, some of them, maybe half of them, love being on TV, love having their name up on the screens and being the talk of the town and going to fundraisers. And the way you do that is you sensationalize whatever work is before you and you take credit
Starting point is 01:09:37 for it. Main example, Adam Schiff. It's partly that and it's partly what am I going to do next? They're always working for their next job, right? And Adam Schiff is hilarious. He wanted to be the senator that replaced Kamala Harris. That didn't happen. He wanted to be the state attorney general in California.
Starting point is 01:09:53 That didn't happen. So now this guy is quickly being the Russiagate lead who is being run out of D.C. without a job. And, oh, by the way, this guy is a congressman from Hollywood. He hasn't lived in Hollywood in a decade. He has a house in Maryland with his family. Maryland. Yep. Because he works in D.C.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Because he can. Yep. He can break the law. So when we look at what the FBI has been doing, right, so withholding evidence, targeting journalists, I don't know if you had any insight in that stuff, but Luke brought this up. A lot of people like to mention the deep state or the administrative state or the bureaucratic state. How would you describe it? I think it's fair to say that there is something there.
Starting point is 01:10:32 Yeah, sure. I mean, they were working in collusion, all of them, in line. They were pushing the same agenda, the same talking points, the same narrative. It was perfectly organized. Tell us about it from your perspective. Sorry, I didn't bring it all together. So it's the politicians, it's the media, and it's this quantity of the deep state. And I don't want to give it too much meaning.
Starting point is 01:10:51 There is a deep state that's working for – with these politicians, these rogue politicians, right? Remember the whole whistleblower for the Russiagate hoax that led to Trump's impeachment on Ukraine? That was perpetrated by, of course, none other than Adam Schiff and company. And he used the media to say, check out this whistleblower. He's got the keys to the kingdom. We're going to prove Trump needs to be impeached. That whistleblower ended up being someone in government, in the intelligence community. Right.
Starting point is 01:11:18 And they combine the forces of the political realm, the media realm and one or two. And big tech. Because if we say his name, this video, this stream will get pulled. Not going to say his name, but I'm going to talk about it. No, no, but that's how serious it is when they're like, there's no deep state, whatever. I don't care what you call it. When there's a guy who colludes to get a sitting president impeached and I can't say his name without YouTube taking the video down, maybe you need to put two and two together and think,
Starting point is 01:11:42 wow, there are dirty, corrupt individuals working at big tech media and in politics. And here's a name we can say, Kevin Clinesmith. For those that don't know it, right, I know we keep going back to Russiagate. Kevin Clinesmith, an FBI attorney, speaking of deep state, took a document during the Trump-Russiagate investigation that was presented to Fisk and changed it. He literally changed it. The target of the search warrant was Carter Page. And he literally, the information was Carter Page was assisting other government agencies in the United States of America. You know what he did?
Starting point is 01:12:15 He took, he literally doctored the document to say was not. Yes. Yeah. This guy lied, got caught by John Durham, is a convicted felon now. And this is why people think there is a deep state because clowns like that can think I'm going to get away with this because I got the political top cover from the likes of Adam Schiff. The media is going to love me and hero me and somebody is going to give me a big contract and he goes on to be a convicted felon. But there are way bigger fish. Way bigger, way bigger. And he gets thrown under the bus because who is he?
Starting point is 01:12:40 Kevin Kline? Yeah, he's some mediocre FBI attorney. And that's what I tell people. I'm like, do you think this guy perpetrated the biggest hoax in American history on his own? What about the meeting with was it Comey, Sally Yates? The 25th thing? Yeah. Obama was there, too, wasn't he?
Starting point is 01:12:55 Oh, no, no. That was right before Trump got in. I think that's right. They all met together. And Comey. Yeah. There was the letter. He was taking notes.
Starting point is 01:13:03 Yeah. And Obama's like, do everything by the book, I think was the message. And Susan Rice was in that meeting, and she wrote this classified email that took me two years to declassify. And when it finally came out, it showed that basically they were trying to set up an income president. She basically like wrote herself an email exonerating herself. Yeah. I didn't do anything wrong. Right.
Starting point is 01:13:20 All these people did. What do you think about Chuck Schumer's comments when he kind of gave a veil threat to Donald Trump, saying that if you mess with the intelligence agencies, they have seven ways to Sunday in order to get back at you? I mean, that was a big statement. A lot of people were wondering, what does he mean by that? He's very connected to, of course, the Intelligence Committee. So he has a lot of play and a lot of sway. How was your kind of reaction to that? I'm offended. I mean, as a guy who is in in the intelligence community who used it to target terrorists around the world
Starting point is 01:13:49 who used it to i was a deputy director of our national intelligence community right as a guy who ran and said we should focus on threats that matter iran china russia terrorists bringing home hostages things that matter to the president um to say that we're going to then threaten to take these guys off mission to target people who colluded with russia is offensive to me and everybody that i worked with and i and i know there's a lot of people that are still in government that feel that way because i'm still friends with them but when you have one of those most powerful politicians in america say that it only weakens our apparatus and you know what we we're focusing on now? Joe Biden goes to G20 and he's talking about the weather. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:30 You think there's going to be some kind of national divorce or dissolution of the United States? A lot of people. I know, man. I guess maybe I'm in love with the idea of America too much that I can see that happening. Being a son of an immigrant, actually my dad actually fled a genocidal dictator and lived the American dream and then watched his son go work in the White House. I think maybe that ride has given me too much faith in the system, and I'd still like to think that it will succeed. I don't like to be too pessimistic or blackmailed as it were, but like everything we talk about, the story about these corrupt individuals pushing these lies for years and getting away with it, for the most part, we'll see how many of them are going to continually get indicted.
Starting point is 01:15:13 And then you have just the culture conflict, the culture war itself. You have the different states. Joe Biden says – he comes out earlier this year like we're going to need more mandates, clearly not talking to red states where Texas and Florida were doing the exact opposite. You got the report out of last year from the Boston Globe that John Podesta, who was he? Who was he? The head of the Hillary campaign? Yeah. 2016 said he they reported he encouraged the West Coast to secede from the union in the
Starting point is 01:15:37 event Donald Trump wins. Look, man, I know you're right. Look at Virginia. The Republicans swept this off-cycle election really, really well. State, we had a trucker in New Jersey. This is the best story. Spent $153 and beat the incumbent Democrat who's refusing to concede, saying like, no, no, I'm not going to lose. This trucker is like, oh, wow, I guess I won.
Starting point is 01:15:58 People were so anti-establishment at this point. They're so anti-Democrat. They're like, I'll vote for literally whoever the republican is so come 2022 republican tsunami come 2024 another republican presidency are these are the democrat operatives going to be like oh all that stuff we said about wanting to secede we've changed our minds now that we've lost no they're not going to do that they're just going to have the media carry their water again and just like shift topic and say we never said that this is what we're focusing on now china russia trump you know the trump russia collusion narrative 2.0 and the rope for steel's kid will probably be uh pumping in information and the republican party will sit on their hands and say okay yeah nothing our leadership i look i agree with you man our
Starting point is 01:16:40 leadership having worked in congress look i went at it with paul ryan at it when i was on the house intel committee i told i took me four months to convince that guy to give me a subpoena so i could prove to the world that hillary clinton paid for the dossier four months and when i did and i went back to him and i didn't do it exactly i told you so but i was like how about the other subpoenas so i can get to work on behalf of the american public but i think it's because people like paul, the establishment Republicans, no different from the establishment Democrats. It's the uniparty. And I view it as Donald Trump was the insurgent candidate who stormed his way in,
Starting point is 01:17:15 and he brought in some good people. He didn't fire enough of the bad people. That's it. Yeah. No, no, that's it. People ask me, how do you fix it the next go around? The bench. Personnel matters. And I think what President Trump did was he entrusted too much of the careers in government to be like, no, no, this is John Bolton. He was sitting down with Henry Kissinger before he even got into office. their lesson and i think they know and the bench exists the bench exists of people and when i came into it i wasn't i wasn't a political guy and trump is not this like neo-conservative you know
Starting point is 01:17:49 guy he's basically like in the middle yeah i mean that and i grew up with the guy in new york so i got it i understood it well he flip-flopped between like a globalist and a patriot which he even called himself that uh but but to kind of continue the conversation we talk about the media a lot how do you view the media do you see them as kind of these vultures these kind of energy vampires these kind of demons mere merchants or do you not the tim pool show no or do you see them as agents that are controlled because there is some circumstantial evidence suggesting that the intelligence agencies do spin off the mainstream media, do write certain scripts, do insert stories and narratives that are centrally kind of written and narrated for the mainstream media
Starting point is 01:18:31 to follow. So how are the intelligence agencies working with the media? Because there's so much circumstantial evidence. Unfortunately, I'll go one step further. It's not circumstantial. It's direct. Look, we see and have seen in the last five years the leak of classified information to substantiate a false media narrative over and over again. That's a felony.
Starting point is 01:18:52 I'll give you a perfect example. Not Russiagate. Russiabountygate, right? Okay. Oh, yeah. A year and a half or two years ago, it was said that this information was given out to, I don't know if it was Washington Post or wherever it was, but basically saying President Trump was aware that Putin was taking American money to have American soldiers killed. I mean, just hit pause on that for a second.
Starting point is 01:19:12 How offensive is that? If you're serving in the U.S. military, we, at the time, I think I was Deputy Director of National Intelligence. I knew the intelligence. We didn't go out and leak the actual intelligence just to correct the record because, A, that's a felony and it's illegal. Fast forward forward a year what happens under the biden administration the intelligence community comes out and says oh actually we got that one wrong sorry and of course the people that wrote about it didn't uh didn't change their tune but that's a direct example of
Starting point is 01:19:39 how the media perpetrates a fraud at the behest of their political overlords. Yeah. And then there's a lot of lies told by anonymous kind of government agents. And then every time I see a government spokesperson or representative from the government, I'm like, I doubt that story officially. I mean, we had the Syrian gas attacks that were, again, put in a huge question. But I have a question. I'm sorry for kind of interjecting here, but I'm so curious. Whatever happened to the CIA declassification of the JFK documents that Donald Trump wanted to release? I can't control myself. I'm sorry, Tim.
Starting point is 01:20:14 I know we were on a specific segment, but I'm like, I need to know what was going on here. Donald Trump's like, I need to release this. We're releasing it to the people. The people demand to know, and we're going to give the people what they want. We're going to give them the information unredacted from the JFK documents. And then the CIA came in and said, no, no, no, no, no, not so quick there, Trump, and then kind of made Trump stop his larger seeking of the truth with the JFK assassination. You're probably not going to like my answer on this. But basically, I think under the Trump trump administration he did put out some more
Starting point is 01:20:45 of the jfk documents what he didn't put out which i've reviewed um i think what what's out there is what you need to know are you saying without revealing any classified information people would be disappointed oh well it's true because the government sometimes classifies stuff that doesn't even need to be classified uh so there's there's that as well it's a misdirection it's true because the government sometimes classifies stuff that doesn't even need to be classified. So there's that as well. It's a misdirection. It's about confusing people. Yeah, every time people are always, you know, the sexiness of classified information.
Starting point is 01:21:18 You know, 60% of classified information that I've read or produced in my career, I'm like, why is this classified? Usually a lot of it is in the mainstream media. But I still don't think we know the larger truth about JFK personally. That's just my own personal perspective and my own personal opinion. But I was dying to know, like, why did Trump back down? Because he did lose that one publicly in the public eye. Because he was like, I'm going to do this. I guarantee this to the American people.
Starting point is 01:21:39 The CIA said nope. And Donald Trump was like, okay. And that was the story. And that was the story of showing me, like, okay, what's really happening here? There must be some kind of power structure that Donald Trump can't break. It can be something completely unrelated that you don't realize. Like something in a report overlaps with a report related to Cuba. So they're just like, we don't want to get that one out there because people could infer from this. This is in the 50s.
Starting point is 01:22:03 Like this, we're talking about decades. Is there any, I mean, other than implicating maybe the Bushes, but like we're talking, what implications would there be from the 50s? Let me just give you an example of, generally speaking, having run some of these investigations. The FBI almost never closes
Starting point is 01:22:21 some of its biggest investigations. Some of them are 70 years old. It's an ongoing investigation. The reason you keep it open is because it allows you more wiggle room to work in the future in the now and in the future and so you know like tim was saying like 70 years later like what does a have to do with z from back then nothing but it's just connected to the same investigation there could be there could be there could be one person involved in multiple operations. Still ongoing?
Starting point is 01:22:47 Yes. Right now? I'm not... Maybe. I'm just saying. I'm not saying you're not true, but I'm saying the possibility of that is very unlikely.
Starting point is 01:22:55 You could be right, but who knows? So you're saying that... I'll make you a deal. If President Trump wins in 2024, we'll make you a special government employee. You'll tell him. I would. We'll review the documents and you'll make the call. We'll make you a special government employee.
Starting point is 01:23:07 We'll review the documents and you'll make the call. I would love that. Are you going to work with Trump in 2024? He goes in, I go in. That is a verbal contract that is legally bound by the laws of the internet. If Adam Schiff and China are listening, that was a joke. So one of the funniest things is when we all got sick, the therapy we got, I guess it was also like 200 members of Congress got the same treatment. Mm-hmm. 200, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:30 The funny thing about this, we get sick. I call the doctor, and the doctor's like, take this stuff. And I'm like, okay. And then I was like, I got people who are sick, and they're like, we think everybody should get the therapy, the monoclonal antibodies. And then I guess Joe mentioned on his show, is this true, that like 200 members of Congress got a similar treatment? And their family members. And their family members. Yeah. And I just thought it was really funny when I was like, hey, Luke, isn't it funny that you are getting the same treatment as the Illuminati? Kind of caught me off guard there.
Starting point is 01:23:58 But I did have a doctor's prescription for ivermectin, but that's another story. I shared a lot of those stories on my own channel and on my own perspectives. What am I supposed to do when the doctor says, I want you to take this? I actually said no to the doctor at first, and they were like, you have to. And I'm like, okay, do I take Don Lemon's word for it,
Starting point is 01:24:17 or do I, you know? Joe Rogan. Well, you don't have to do anything. The COVID origins, the whole mandate, all that stuff is just unfortunately, again, turned into political football, political theater rather than what happened. Where did it come from? We have really good intel on COVID origins, right? Again, I was back at ODNI running the IC.
Starting point is 01:24:38 And part of our job is to brief the president, presidential daily briefing. We take the most sensitive intelligence. We walk into the Oval and we say, hey, Mr. President say hey mr president x y and z he makes a decision with his cabinet he decided based on those briefings we're going to shut down travel from china he's a racist fast forward turns out the whole world issued shut down uh travel shutdowns and they're still ongoing only just recently did the canadian border and the the the uk to the us right and the eu and so this is just another example of the media carrying the water leaking false information from the deep state and the government to perpetuate a fraud or just make donald trump
Starting point is 01:25:16 look bad and uh i gotta say this this is sort of related but not really but i always i promised the brothers that i serve with that i would say this. So the vaccine mandate, here's the thing that ticks me off the most. Okay. We did the Afghan withdrawal. We did it the right way. Biden comes in and wrecks the thing, right? 13 service members die, bringing them back. But we fly 125,000 refugees back here. Don't vet them. Nobody gets a COVID test. Nobody gets a COVID mandate vaccine. Southern border, illegal immigrants getting stopped at the border, being allowed to come in. None of them are tested for COVID or given a COVID vaccine mandate.
Starting point is 01:25:50 But my brothers in the special forces community have to decide about taking a COVID vaccine mandate or taking a knee for America. And that, I think, is the worst, worst crime that's being committed right now. Especially with people who can't take it. And doctors are saying not to take it. I mean, Aaron Rodgers, a professional football player, was talking about how he has allergies that prevents him from taking this. And that's on the CDC website. This is the crazy thing. The website says, here's the ingredients. You can read them for yourself. If you have allergies to them, you should not take this vaccine.
Starting point is 01:26:19 And Aaron Rodgers was like, oh, yeah, two of those ingredients I have an allergy to. NBC News released a great article, surprisingly. I'm surprised that they – I can't believe I'm saying this myself – about the monocule antibody treatment, showing how it lasts over eight months and gives people a lot of protection and prevents a lot of serious cases from developing. The NBA ruled if you're in the NBA, you took the Johnson & Johnson shot, shot two months after taking it you need another booster shot uh pfizer moderna you need it every six months to be compliant with their vaccine passports which of course they're implementing never in professional sports but they already implemented in israel israel people have been forced to take a third invasive medical procedure uh to be compliant with being able to live in a society. I mean, that's just absolutely. Here's the scary thing about all of it, right?
Starting point is 01:27:05 I'll give you a, we created the COVID vaccines in like seven months. Polio vaccines took seven years, seven years, right? And I'm not saying you shouldn't have done it, right? It should be an option for those who want to take it. But here's the other thing. We don't know the long-term effects of this at all. Nobody's been tested beyond a year and a half.
Starting point is 01:27:21 Nobody knows what's going to happen to your body in five years. And again, this is in fda insert on the community vaccine it says long-term trials are currently underway so you got to be careful because youtube's like you know they'll they come after you if you say basic facts like crowder's gotten hit on youtube several times for just citing the cdc but you know what what am i supposed to do not say these things like it's it's the truth. The FDA literally said it. But the problem that Americans are now facing or have been facing is because thanks to the likes of Fauci and everything, they don't know what to trust.
Starting point is 01:27:54 They don't know if I can trust the NIH. They don't know if I can trust the CDC or the FDA because every time this guy goes to the podium and says one thing in another month, he's saying the exact opposite. why didn't trump fire fauci i mean i i wish he had fired a lot of other people but i throw fauci sure who's top on your list like millie millie is definitely up there you know back in the comey we got rid of him so that was good but like rod rosenstein oh man gina haspel uh paul nakasone at nsa i mean the whole like there was just a big crew of people that just didn't. Yeah, Gina Haspel has, I mean, oh, my. I mean, there's so many stories that are absolutely crazy about her.
Starting point is 01:28:33 Can I tell you? I can't even say, like, what she's accused of. Can I tell you what the former director of the CIA was doing when Russiagate broke on British shores with Christopher Steele secretly meeting with all the people in England. Gina Haspel was leading up our intelligence apparatus in the Kingdom United. Wow. Huh. So she would know more than anyone else. You would think.
Starting point is 01:28:56 She would be the one. But no one got to question her. I had the eyes to understand this entire situation and make the right shots and make the right calls for it and nope. So bigger than watergate oh yeah 100 but the watergate broke the watergate the media was able to actually have humility there was indictments yeah they were able to realize themselves and be like hey we lied this wasn't true this is the actual truth here based on on the documents but back then you still had a media the political operativesatives learned, like, we've got to control the media
Starting point is 01:29:26 before we pull something like this off again. Well, you guys are the pros. What do you think? Do you think we get to a position where the media issues... Not all of it. Most of it issues a correction or a course... No way. So look, here's what's happening with the media. Brian Stelter, for instance. You think he's going to report on any of this stuff?
Starting point is 01:29:43 No, he's not. Of course he's not. Is he the guy that doesn't wear shorts on tv or is that somebody that's him the photo of him uh showing his full view with short shorts these are these are companies that we're not doing that we're all close yeah we are all these are companies that know their ratings are in the gutter and they know that if they were actually going to do news they'd have to report the truth now but then they would lose money. So it's a crazy thing when you build your, I'll put it this way.
Starting point is 01:30:10 Obviously, you know, we have our perspective, but I think our perspective here is really based on news reports that we can verify to the best of our abilities. That means I do use CNN very often. I got CNN articles pulled up right now. We didn't use them. But when I can verify it,
Starting point is 01:30:24 I want to use those sources. 100%. the problem with a lot of these sources cnn.com is actually not that bad foxnews.com is pretty good their cable pundits are where you'll get the opinion stuff and the stuff that's kind of broken fox news tucker carlson does a good job i'm not a big fan of ingram and hannity but they're all right. MSNBC is complete trash. CNN is complete trash. And they've built their business around Trump sucks, right? Yeah. So they cannot come out and say good things about Trump ever for any reason.
Starting point is 01:30:57 Because when you dedicate your entire lineup to this is why Trump is bad, here's what happens. CNN used to have regular viewers. I used to have CNN running 24 seven while I'm working. This is legit until I think it was like three or three or four years ago when all of a sudden I realized that they stopped talking about news and we're only talking about Trump. I turned it off and put on Fox and Fox was talking about Hong Kong and Iran and stuff like that. I left. CNN knows I left. They know other moderate individuals like me who want the news left. They know their only viewers now are the fervent cult members. If they now try and course correct, they'll lose everyone because they're not getting me back.
Starting point is 01:31:35 So they decide to stay the course. We built up this show for the most part on kind of pissing off everybody. You seem to be doing okay. But it's because I think most people who watch this show, like they disagree with me all the time and tell me I'm wrong. But it's like, we're trying our best to be factual and consistent and honest about what's going on. So hardcore Trump supporters are mad at me. Obviously, Antifa people don't like me. The Trump supporters got really mad at me because right after the election, I said Trump lost. And the left is now claiming that I've claimed Trump won when I never did.
Starting point is 01:32:07 And the right's mad at me, or I shouldn't say the right, but like Trump supporters, like his hardcore advocates are mad at me for saying he did lose. It's like a weird space to be in. But I feel like as long as we just try and pull up the facts and fact check them to the best of our abilities, then the people who are going to watch are those who actually care about being right and not political tribalism. Truth. CNN, however, is trapped.
Starting point is 01:32:28 You know, we're at a point where I can come out and say, hey, you know that thing right wing person said? That's wrong. And they'll be like, well, you know, that's Tim. CNN, if they come out and say we were wrong about Trump, they'll get roasted. They'll get annihilated. So they're trapped forever. No more viewership.
Starting point is 01:32:41 Yep. That's it. That's where they are forever. That's terrible. Let's talk to our audience, though. Let's go to super chats and see what uh everybody has to say there's probably a lot of questions and uh probably a lot of questions about where we were and coven and all that stuff but uh let's uh let's address some of these super chats and we got this one here's the first one let's see how do you do you, uh, recromorsin lemon, lemon, lemon,
Starting point is 01:33:06 Scottie. All right. I'm trying. He says, Tim, I'm starting to think you might be fake news. LOL. The NIH added ivermectin to their COVID-19 treatment list in August. Hard to find, but it's their fake news. Uh, what they actually did was there's a list of NIH treatments currently approved or undergoing trial. Ivermectin is undergoing several different trials in the United States. It has not been FDA approved for treating COVID. There are a lot of studies. And ultimately, I just say this, you got to talk to your doctor. If the left gets really, really mad, I'm like, the story's simple. I called the doctor and they were like, this is the typical treatment. Maryland has monoclonal antibody centers.
Starting point is 01:33:45 Like it's crazy. This is an EUA approved treatment. And then I just so happen to have a doctor who said, I would like to get you on ivermectin and azithromycin just in case, because that's what the doctor said. And I said, okay, that was it. But a lot of people are sharing this thing from the NIH
Starting point is 01:34:02 thinking that it means it's approved treatment. It's not. So you can read it. It says trials. All right. Thready says, shout out to Nick Rechietta and Rechietta Media for epic live streams for the Rittenhouse trial. Absolutely. That viral clip when they were like, directed verdict was so much fun, so much fun.
Starting point is 01:34:20 All right. I have to jump ahead because a lot of people are saying there's no audio, no audio. We fixed it. So Mike Hilton says, did I miss something? Love listening to your podcast while working. It hasn't updated in almost two weeks. What's up? Take care.
Starting point is 01:34:31 We all got COVID. Yeah. That's what happened. The plague. Everybody got sick. Everyone's back. And our good friend Joe Rogan covered the treatment for everybody because he is a really, really nice guy and is able to do it. And a few of the other people here I covered the costs for
Starting point is 01:34:47 because I like to help people out, I suppose. You socialist. Yeah. Yeah. I tweeted at – Bridget Phetasy tweeted something like, this is a really expensive treatment. And I was like – I responded with, I take care of people and I'm a commie. And she's like, I'm glad to hear that you're all right and a commie.
Starting point is 01:35:06 But I was, you know, I'm joking. But seriously, thank you, Joe Rogan, for helping us out. Really, really means a lot. And we really appreciate it. I felt kind of bad because we don't need someone to do that for us. But Joe was like, I want to take care of you guys. Yeah, it's still very nice of him to go out of his way to do that. Absolutely, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:35:23 I'm just like, you know, I got to be honest. I feel like I was really bad bad my lungs were really bad i was struggling to breathe and i feel like if i didn't talk to joe about it and just ignored it and thought you know i'm just gonna sit this one out i probably would have ended up in the er you were still in the beginning phases i talked to the nurse and she was like you're just getting into this this was only the beginning for you by day two i, I had, so it's day three. I hadn't slept. I couldn't, it was impossible to sleep. I could barely breathe and I hadn't eaten.
Starting point is 01:35:53 Cause I couldn't, I was struggling to eat. So thankfully I have a very amazing girlfriend who was helping take care of me while I'm sick. And finally it got to the point where I was like, I got a call and talk to someone because like, I was thinking when the, when the first doctor said it's a virus, sleep it off. I was thinking this is probably the worst of it. And it started getting worse. So finally that night I was like, it's, it's way worse. It was like rapidly escalating and how bad it was getting. And so I called Joe and then I was just like, I don't know, man, you know, I talked to a doctor and he was like, bro, take it seriously. Don't ignore it. Cause I got sick and you've seen what, so then I was like, okay, okay. I'm going
Starting point is 01:36:32 to start, you know, I'm going to call another doctor. It was, I called one other doctor and they were like, you're sounding like you're getting bad. So we're going to, you know, give you the full monoclonal antibodies and all this stuff. And then I talked to Joe again. That's when he was like, I'm going to take care of you guys. And I want to make sure everyone's safe. But I genuinely believe if I didn't follow up, if I just thought to myself, I'll sleep this one off, I would have ended up in the ER. And I would have been there for I don't know how long I don't think I would have died or anything. I don't know for sure. But I couldn't breathe. It was it was crazy. Like I was like, and I skate almost every day. I've've been doing you know uh for the most part
Starting point is 01:37:08 keto for a while but people just i think there's a chance you get hit bad yeah most people my age like my risk factors are really low but i just got hit like it's like a nuke man everybody else seemed to be moderately okay got treated and everyone got better real quick. All right, let's read some more. Shannon M. says, Cash, you're a hero and so fine. Luke's still my celebrity crush, though. Oh, man. I thought I was going to one-up you.
Starting point is 01:37:37 Thank you. All right, let's see. Derek Bambenek says, Kyle isn't out of the woods yet, but this does put a smile on my face. You know, it is great to watch the trial and hear the truth, even from, you know, like the prosecution when they bring their witness and the truth comes out and you're like, I'm glad to hear it, but it doesn't mean Kyle's going to get a fair assessment. No. You get to hear it on TV. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:04 All right. Let's see. Unspecial Noobs says, if Kyle gets off, do you think he can press charges against Grosskreutz? Is there any recourse for him since he was a victim in this?
Starting point is 01:38:15 Also, Luke, I have two of your shirts and everyone loved them. Yeah, they're a great way of starting conversations or making enemies very quickly. But I get a lot of high fives. I get a lot of thumbs up. I get a lot of people coming up to me like, this is awesome.
Starting point is 01:38:29 This is great. So thanks for helping and supporting me on thebestpoliticalshirts.com. Do you think there's a possibility that they charge Grosskreutz after the case? Criminally? Yeah. No. If he gets acquitted, he, Rittenhouse, he might have some moves in civil court to go after them and maybe even the attorney's office, the state attorney's office, but that's a steep, steep fight. Toy Painter says if Kyle is found not guilty, the crooked feds will swoop in with civil rights charges.
Starting point is 01:39:00 They could. They might. They did that with Chauvin. Yeah, you could always come in and issue, and they usually wait for the state court criminal cases to play out first, and the DOJ then takes a look at criminal civil rights violations, and they could. So PRCE5 says, Apparently Kyle cleared a malfunction before shooting gross cruts, so Kyle might have tried to shoot while his hands were up. Light primer strike.
Starting point is 01:39:22 ALS HD drone footage doesn't sound good for kyle either still self-defense i don't know if that's that's true though um we you know i think in the video you can see him pull the rack back but that doesn't mean anything i mean the jury could be convinced by it but it doesn't mean that he did try and shoot somebody just means he was clearing a malfunction no it's a fact they got to consider yeah he he may have fired at the one guy and then saw the malfunction and then cleared it you know but but that's that's i think it's important to bring up because it's you know to act like the defense has only been winning and there's nothing the state has now that's crazy the state has their emotional play especially getting this guy out there and nearly crying i feel like
Starting point is 01:40:02 that uh rosen cramp is that his name rosenbaum like rosen the guy he's like basically a skinhead white look white nationalist looking dude well that had been what he's he's not that's what he looks like though and he's like shoot me n word he's screaming the n word shoot me n word if that had been a black guy you would see riots and pitchforks and stuff lit on fire right now. Because he was like a skinheaded white dude, it's like the media is all on the side of Rittenhouse on this one. It's like it's – Wait, what? Water under the bridge.
Starting point is 01:40:31 The media absolutely is not on the side of Rittenhouse. They're like the new – And they've been framing every – no, no, no, no, no. They're not going after him like they did with Chauvin. No way, dude. There's just no pitchforks. Every story they wrote today was like victim says he he thought i was going to die and the story is like i knew that if i didn't confront this active shooter it would mean more harm and i knew that if i approached him i might die and
Starting point is 01:40:55 that's how they framed everything and the newsweek wrote written house they said witness testifies that written house held him at gunpoint while he reloaded his gun. Like, first of all, that never happened. He never testified to that. And there's nothing in any video that Kyle Rittenhouse held anybody up. The media has absolutely been framing this one. If you've only read mainstream news about Kyle Rittenhouse, you'd have no idea what's going on. I guess it's relative to a situation that didn't happen because there wasn't like a black dude that was screaming, kill me, N-word, shoot me. You're saying that if it was like –
Starting point is 01:41:28 If it had been a racial – if it had been a black and white thing, this would be another universe. There are activists tweeting like Kyle Rittenhouse killed three black people and it's like, no, he didn't. No, he didn't. That never happened. But they're tweeting it. They're saying it. And honestly, it shouldn't matter because justice is blind. But that seems like that's influencing the reaction.
Starting point is 01:41:44 I'll tell you. You want to know the craziest thing I saw today i went on reddit the second highest upvoted post on reddit was the picture of the prosecutor face palming and it said written house prosecution after the latest witness and the comments were like open and shut case self-defense done like this is reddit of all places and they were like it's self-defense that then you get the activists being like why did you carry a gun across state lines and immediately people were like that never happened you've not been watching the trial it was he got the weapon in kenosha from his quote-unquote brother a good friend who sold them out to try and avoid criminal charges himself
Starting point is 01:42:22 talk about brutal yeah the dude who gave written house the gun claims that written house stole it from his house and then they the defense got him testify that you're being criminally charged by this same prosecutor for giving a weapon at written house and he's like yes and he's like and you're hoping that by testifying against kyle you'll get a lighter sentence and he's like yes this is so dirty man all right we got ernie bio he says cash you're a beast. Eric July is 100% right. The system is beyond reform, and the answer is decentralization.
Starting point is 01:42:51 Crowder made a great point saying anyone running under the R ticket needs to put disbanding the FBI at the top. Well, there you go. What's good, says Trump Pompeo ticket 2024 landslide win. Please tell me if i'm wrong in your opinion tim i believe you are wrong i think desantis should run here's what i'll tell you one trump and pompeo will never be a ticket two if president trump decides to run in 2024 desantis will not run but if trump does not run i do agree with with you, Tim, that I think it's wrong to have. I think Trump could lose.
Starting point is 01:43:29 I think based on the – like what we just saw in the last election, based on what we might see in 2022, I'm not entirely convinced Republicans are going to win in 2022 either. People are – like it's historically supposed to be a Republican suite because of the presidency. Like this is typically what you see. But there are a lot of rule changes.'s universal mail-in voting there's there's the ground tricking yeah yeah i mean that's all good the redistricting redistricting is good for republicans the historical trends is good for republicans so maybe they'll win and maybe this means that you could put a ham sandwich on as a republican ticket 2024 and people would vote for it for president because look what happened with the state senator in new jersey this trucker guy was just like i put in 100 bucks signed up to win to run and then
Starting point is 01:44:10 people voted for me so maybe maybe um it might be anybody my concern with trump is when you look at virginia suburban housewives voted for youngkin suburban housewives do not vote for donald trump three years is a long political time it It is. Eternity, man. So maybe, maybe, man. All right. Clef the Misfit says, is it possible for the judge to declare a mistrial if the verdict comes back guilty? Because it'd be clear the trial has not been fair. He can always declare a mistrial if moved by the defense to do that.
Starting point is 01:44:40 But, I mean, a directed verdict 1% of the the time a mistrial after the jury's already come back with their verdict maybe one percent of that one percent doesn't seem likely i don't think the defense would want to mistrial right they're pretty confident yeah and that's the other thing they're pretty confident so they i don't see why they would even raise that right all right michael weston, big fan of your work with the CIM, Michael Weston. He says, freedom phone updates, or what do you guys think about showing everyone how to do it themselves on Mines or Timcast.com? We ordered. They're backlogged, right?
Starting point is 01:45:16 Yeah, we weren't able to order them, so we'll have to try and order those again. But last time we were using multiple cards and getting denied. The problem is if we request special phones from them we get potemkin phones and then what's the point and if i order them or put them under the name of people who are obvious so it has to be done through people they won't recognize to addresses they won't recognize and there was a backlog and we couldn't put the orders through but we're trying it's not so easy, I suppose. Nolan Hempy says, y'all should get
Starting point is 01:45:47 Rekita Law on to talk about the trial after it's over. He's done a great job covering every detail of the trial. Absolutely would love to have Rekita Law on the show. That'd be great. We're going to be in Austin next week. Yes. We could announce that? Alright, we're going to be in Austin. It's going to be awesome.
Starting point is 01:46:02 It's going to be incredible. I'm so excited about it. We're doing more trips, which is going to be a lot of fun. There's a lot of characters in Austin, so expect a really, really jam-packed show. Yeah. So Andy, who's our tech guy, has been building our mobile production studio. He's great. He's been working nonstop. Miracle worker.
Starting point is 01:46:18 Tech genius, tech master. And so we have this 40-foot RV, and he's basically got it up and running. So we're good to go. We're going to dispatch the RV, send a crew to drive it down to Austin. Then we're going to fly because we have to do the show. We have to do the show, you know, Thursday and Friday and then Saturday morning we can fly out. Otherwise we wouldn't be able to drive long enough to get an RV to Austin. So we have to send an advanced crew. We're going to be in Austin for the week. We'll probably do show with shows. All the guests will be our good Austin friends.
Starting point is 01:46:47 In January, I think we're doing Nashville. Then in March, we're going to Florida. Bitcoin conference. There's going to be that. There's going to be Porkfest as well. New Hampshire Porkfest. That'll be in June. We're basically trying to do something like once a month
Starting point is 01:47:03 where we'll actually send out the mobile production unit to a city for an event, book guests from these areas. That way we can be traveling a bit more. So that'll be like one week out of the month. So it's going to be a whole lot of fun. But these are big events. Like Porkfest is huge. It's basically a free state project festival, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:20 I mean thousands of people come down for that, and it's a great, amazing, aggregist way of creating a society that runs on its own volitions, that runs pretty effectively and pretty amazingly. And I was reading about redistricting in New Hampshire, and it's hilarious because the Free State people are eliminating Democrats. Yeah, they are. Do you know about the Free State Project? Yeah. Yeah, that's amazing. That's absolutely fantastic. So we'll have – I think we have Starlink in the middle of nowhere we get.
Starting point is 01:47:46 So thanks to Elon Musk, we'll do the show in the middle of nowhere. It's going to be a lot of fun. It's going to be so much fun. Hopefully the AC works. It'll be in June. All right. Let's see. Alex Maggiore says, if you replace, quote, anonymous source with, quote, crackhead behind Speedway cnn msnbc and wapo starts to make
Starting point is 01:48:05 more sense put that on a t-shirt luke good idea so it's it's true though you could say something like you could go behind nancy pelosi's office and find a homeless guy and then he can say whatever he wants and you could put a source close to pelosi's office said like i meant physically close to it not not like politically close. All right, let's see. You Know Who says Steele dossier was on 4chan before it was public. The thread is still archived at the date and Anand claimed he made it up and fed it to intelligence sources. All the details of the bed and pajamas were invented on 4chan.
Starting point is 01:48:41 I heard that. I don't know if that's true. Have you heard that? I've not heard that. There was a post on 4chan where they said that they submitted a fake tip about the P-tape or something and then it got picked up
Starting point is 01:48:49 and put in a Steele dossier. Oh. Yeah. I don't know if it's true, but I saw it circulating on 4chan for sure. All right. BlackRockBegan says,
Starting point is 01:49:00 the Pulitzer Prize is appropriate for Russiagate considering Pulitzer is often credited with helping to create yellow journalism, using eye-catching headlines to increase sales rather than presenting well-researched news. And there it is. Casey Race says 2021 is ending with the center becoming awakening to the superset of the subset of left and right.
Starting point is 01:49:22 Bullish. Laketime. I don't know what you mean by that. Jordan Dollar Height says Cash Patel for president? No chance I'm ever running for office of any kind. How do you end up
Starting point is 01:49:36 working in the White House? How do you end up in politics if you're not trying to be a politician? Like a million beers. Yeah. You're just drunk at a bar and someone's like,
Starting point is 01:49:44 you want a job? And you're like a million beers. Got a liking for national security and then just sort of kept chasing that tail. And it really worked out. Cool. There you go. But not running for office. Never. Never.
Starting point is 01:50:12 All right. Old Man New to Trading says, Alex Jones brought the diary up on Joe Rogan podcast with Tim Dillon a long time ago. Another thing he was onto ahead of people. Yep. That's interesting. All all right let's see cj sedman says since the fbi rated veritas does that mean that veritas can publish the diary for the same reason the steel dossier was published i think they could just on the you know because yeah now it's like the fbi is investigating and it's newsworthy and people need to know what's in it right they could but they could also get in more trouble
Starting point is 01:50:45 with the fbi now that the raid has happened but why though they're journalists they can publish information right the fbi can go to them and say this is information related to an ongoing criminal matter so if you if you screw up our investigation maybe we hit you with obstruction of justice i feel like james is the kind of guy who's going to be like, screw you and publish it. No, I think you're right. Well, in his announcement video, he literally said they requested we not disclose the investigation, and we're disclosing it anyway. So there you go. I think one of the things that keeps James safe is that they know he will go nuclear and not stand by.
Starting point is 01:51:26 Cause when you get compliant is when they know they can bully you and they can push you around, but James can't be bullied. He's going to publish. And so they got to be careful. They got to tread carefully. All right. Colin Sanders says the whole intelligence community is rotten.
Starting point is 01:51:38 If you stay on missions, your corrupt leaders assign you to them. You are just as evil as they are. The good ones leave sincerely a former NSA analyst. do you think they're all the whole intelligence community is running like every person every a lot of the leadership is but no not a lot of not a lot of the guys that do the job every day all right let's see i can't read that. Con Boom Klirschler? I don't know. He says, and Schumer spoke with satisfaction to Maddow, saying Trump shouldn't challenge the intelligence agencies.
Starting point is 01:52:11 He should fear them. Evil. Yep. Oof. Malcolm Palm says, great stream tonight, Tim, et al. Thank you all for that. You're doing cash. Keep up the good fight.
Starting point is 01:52:22 Right on. DB says, Cash, where are all the good, honest FBI and other intelligence agents we were told about? Other than you, I've heard of no one being a whistleblower against their corrupt bosses. And that's exactly where they are. These guys don't sign up to become whistleblowers. They're just doing the job. And I can tell you for whatever it's worth, I prosecuted some of the biggest terrorists in the world, in Africa, across the country, brought some of the biggest criminal charges you can imagine. Those guys are still there working.
Starting point is 01:52:50 They're still putting people away the right way. And they're not going to go out and blow whistles and they're not going to go out and get a headline. Word. Alternative JK says, I was bummed you and the crew got sick during my birthday, which is on Halloween. I even dressed up as Tim from the beanie shirt and made a TimCast press ID. I even posted on my Instagram, glad to see Tim and the crew back together and recovered. Thank you so much for the warm wishes, everybody. Is he the photo of the Halloween costume?
Starting point is 01:53:18 Yeah, he posted on Instagram, I guess. Alternative JK90. It was going to be great. Luke was going to dress up like me for Halloween, and I was going to dress up like me. Yeah, that's going to be great luke was going to dress up like me for halloween and i was going to dress up like me yeah so you know all right artificial duality says kyle did not try to fire when the hands when the hands were up they said they found exactly eight spent casings no mentions of a light primer strike unfired round that is correct i remember that so they went over the forensics of the weapon and yeah they they knew exactly how many times were fired so that was just a manipulation oh i thought he was gonna shoot me or whatever all right let's see raymond g stanley jr says tim i went to my youtube
Starting point is 01:53:56 subscription page and i couldn't find you i had to go to the irl channel itself what wtf was it does that mean are they watching you now oh of course. Even Luke was trying to pull up the live stream earlier and he couldn't do it. So we'd probably get way more viewers if YouTube wasn't, you know, yeah. And we have a big show as it is. I mean, everybody who watches, thank you so much for watching, you know.
Starting point is 01:54:18 Really appreciate everybody who tunes in. Waffle Sensei says, Gage Grosskreutz testimony. I wasn't pulling my gun out and chasing him i was running in his direction while my gun fell out of my waistband into my hand so i could surrender to him with my gun aimed at his head no joke that's literally what he said he didn't say it verbatim like that he was asked like were you chasing him he goes no he's like so you were you were running towards him no you were moving very quickly towards him and he's like yeah so you were running towards him. No. You were moving very quickly towards him. And he's like, yeah. And then he was like, and you drew your weapon.
Starting point is 01:54:49 No. And even the state prosecutor was like, at this point in the day, you drew your weapon. And he goes, no. And then he goes, isn't that you on video holding your weapon? And he goes, yes. And he goes, okay. Like the state was like, why did you just lie about something we're showing the jury on video this dude it was obvious and he was it was crazy there was a point
Starting point is 01:55:13 where rittenhouse was almost smiling and i mentioned this to you it's like yeah defendant should not look smug or happy but there was the way grosskreutz was acting too. He was like, his whole attitude, his demeanor was like, no. Yes. Ridiculous. No. And I was like, man, this guy's like acting really smug. And I kind of feel bad. I'm like, look, I want to hear him out.
Starting point is 01:55:36 I don't know this guy. I want to hear what he has to say. But man, the way he was behaving was very like. And the jury see that. They see that all day long and then is lying constantly i'm like dude bad luck how are you gonna go up there and be like here's a video jury please watch this video of of the of the witness running towards caranhas with his gun drawn and then have him go i didn't do that it like, it's a video. He just showed it.
Starting point is 01:56:05 It's crazy. Oh, man. Yeah. All right. Let's see. Stalin Falcon says, you are the first person to make Nikki's grave rolling answers happy with the correct pronunciation of Rechieta. Did I pronounce it right? Maybe so.
Starting point is 01:56:19 I don't know. I don't know. No idea. All right. I'll take credit for for i typically pronounce names poorly there you go robert stratton says cash thanks for your service at lx do you agree that 4chan has io chops and analysis capabilities that might rival a small country i think so i definitely question yeah but I'm not going to answer that question.
Starting point is 01:56:47 Dr. Seuss Leafy says, hey, Tim, the Young Turks said you're unvaxxed and taking horse paste. My friend Jesse said they can't keep getting away with it. Let's go, Brandon. I will say two things. Did they actually say horse paste? I never said I took ivermectin. Or did I? No, I'm pretty sure I didn't. I'm pretty sure I'm very careful with my words. And I said I took ivermectin. Or did I?
Starting point is 01:57:05 No, I'm pretty sure I didn't. I'm pretty sure I'm very careful with my words. And I said I was prescribed it. I told my doctor I didn't want to take it, but he insisted that I did. I don't believe I've ever actually said I ingested any of it. So it was interesting when I tweeted that I was prescribed it. I'm very careful here. And then they immediately come out and say that Tim did take it.
Starting point is 01:57:22 I actually tweeted I didn't take it. I tweeted that Don Lemon knows better than my doctor so i refused oh yeah well so are they gonna claim i took something i didn't know that's that's defamation that's liable not that i care the young turks they have like no audience all they have left are like old cult members jenka uger tweeted at tulsi Gabbard because she said, you know, Youngkin winning is good. Americans are rejecting racism. And then he was like, critical race theory is not being taught in schools because the only thing he has is to lie to people because he's lost. The American people hate critical race theory. Black Lives Matter is now actually,
Starting point is 01:58:00 you know, I had the poll earlier. I didn't pull it up. Black Lives Matter is now 44% supported and 44% opposed, according to Civics. And among independent voters, they're in the gutter. So the regular working class American voters that need to be convinced for winning an election have spoken. We do not like this race stuff. We do not like critical race theories, a theory. The suburban women voted Republican. And the only thing, like i was mentioning with cnn
Starting point is 01:58:25 when they build their audience around cult the cult if they course correct now they'll lose everyone because the young turks will never get someone like me back you know i'll never watch them again because they lie like everything out of their mouth is just garbage just bunk lies in my opinion and you know so so all they can do is pander. They've got nothing left. It's too bad for them. Too bad for them. All right, let's see.
Starting point is 01:58:51 Here we go. Some wingnut says, Cash, where can we get the shirt you have on? Fightwithcash.com. I got a lot of merch, including this jacket. Take a look. It'll be up next week. All right. Danette says, hey, Cash, thank you for all your patriotic work.
Starting point is 01:59:05 Tell Devin thank you from one Central Valley Portuguese family to another. There's a large Portuguese family population out in the Central Valley. Really? Yeah. Interesting. One of the biggest in America, actually. Wow. Right on.
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Starting point is 01:59:38 stuff there you go we'll talk about news and other stuff it's basically just another you know half hour show sometimes we say we swear a lot more. So I'll put it that way. I don't want to say we don't talk about certain things on this show that we would on that show for the most part. There are some things we typically only do on the website. But for the most part, we'll talk about everything. We just – we cuss. And if you want to see it, go to TimCast.com and become a member.
Starting point is 02:00:01 And you can follow the show at TimCastIRL basically everywhere. You can follow me at TimCast basically everywhere. Check out the Instagram videos I got and memes and stuff. Do you want to shout out anything, Cash? Look, I just appreciate coming on the show. This was a lot of fun. I've never done this style format, so I appreciate you guys having me out, helping me support FightWithCash.com. Yeah, if you haven't seen it and you want
Starting point is 02:00:19 to understand Russiagate, go watch The Plot Against the President. That's the best advice I can give to you guys. Cash, this was great. I was so happy you came on. I really appreciated the conversation. And when the FBI busts down my door for my political commentary, I'm going to give you a phone call.
Starting point is 02:00:36 I'll become a lawyer again. I got you covered, buddy. I also have my own YouTube channel on youtube.com forward slash we are change where I have a lot of fun and I even go even even crazier on LukeUncensored.com where I recently shared my COVID story and my learning lessons from getting COVID all on LukeUncensored.com. Thanks for having me. It was a great conversation. You mentioned FightWithCash.com.
Starting point is 02:01:00 Yeah. What is it exactly? So real quick is basically I started suing all these people for defamation, and people came up to me and said, I've been defamed. I've been deplatformed by big tech, big media. I don't have the money to do it, so I'm going around the country raising money. And I've got a team of lawyers who will take your cases at a deep discount, so we'll cut the check to retain those lawyers so you can have your day in court. And all of my content is on there. My show Cash's Corner on Epoch Times is on there once a week on national security,
Starting point is 02:01:30 defense, intelligence, and fun photos. And hopefully this show will be on there too, with your guys' permission. Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Well, thanks for coming, everyone. I'm Ian Crossland. See you later. Thank you guys for tuning in for us again. Thank you for not forgetting us in our long and very sad absence. And I have to say, Cash's idea is really, really smart. We were talking about Project Veritas making this fun to support people in pursuing legal action for this. I think it's a wonderful idea. You guys may follow me on Twitter at Sarah Patchlitz. We will see you
Starting point is 02:01:54 all over at TimCast.com in the members only section. And I will add, we have recently begun putting up episodes of Tales from the Inverted World members only. The first episode was with Ian Crossland.land yeah it was epic and people were really excited for it so this is like it's not a political show you guys are talking about like simulism or something yeah quite a lot of things psychedelics and just
Starting point is 02:02:14 consciousness um perception fascinating fascinating episode so we're gonna have more more of this um really excited for it's not really a season but tales from the inverted world the first several episodes are kind of just like you know stories of intrigue but the next arc we have with shane is ghosts of the confederacy because he went down south he found these ghost stories he's tracking down old confederate gold he saw ufos so the next arc of all of the stories he's gonna be writing are gonna be his experience, dude, some of these old Civil War ghost stories are crazy. It's crazy. They're great. Yeah, it's amazing stuff.
Starting point is 02:02:50 And there's a really dark stuff too with Sherman's march to the sea. You know, the scorched earth, burning down homes and just destroying farms. It's a rough piece of history. It is, man. It is. And there's a lot of crazy stories out of that stuff. So definitely check out Tales from the Inverted World if you want some nonpolitical stuff. And we'll see you over at TimCast.com.
Starting point is 02:03:08 Thanks for hanging out. Bye, guys.

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