Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #409 - Joe Rogan, Alex Jones, Blaire White, Michael Malice & DrewHLive Join The Crew LIVE
Episode Date: November 17, 2021Tim, Ian, Luke, and Lydia join Drew Hernandez, Michael Malice, Joe Rogan, Blaire White, and Alex Jones to discuss a wide range of topics from the Rittenhouse trial to Joe Biden's flailing administrati...on, the crisis on the border, and the "I have kids to feed" argument, as well as the democratic system as a whole. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I have no idea what we're doing.
Just launch.
No, we're live now. We're live. People can watch.
Michael Malice, sitting right next to me.
So let me just start with saying,
no verdict tonight in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial.
I see people commenting like,
they thought they're doing this big show because they thought
the verdict was going to come in and they were going to break.
No, no, no, no, no. He's shaking his head.
Here's what happened. Let me tell you the story.
So we're coming down to Austin and we're trying to find
good people in Austin to talk to and Blair White. Hi. So we were like, oh, Lydia me tell you the story. So we're coming down to Austin, and we're trying to find good people in Austin to talk to, and Blair White.
Hi.
So we were like, oh, Lydia just ran out the door.
Okay, well, we'll show Blair White.
Joe Rogan is in town, and we have Michael Malice and Luke Radowski and Tim Pool.
Well, so here's what happened.
We asked Blair to come on the show because we love Blair.
And then Alex was like, hey, are you guys going to have,
am I coming on at all?
And we were like,
you know, it'd be really cool
if you came out with Blair White,
but we got to make sure Blair's cool with it.
Of course, I was.
I was totally down.
And then it kept escalating.
And then it was Michael.
So then someone leaked it to Michael
and he was like,
you're having me on that show, right?
Yeah.
And I was like, oh, jeez.
I like how he works in
that we're all asking him to come on.
Of course we want to come on, Tim. You're great.
But then it's like, I'm thinking,
oh man, this is huge.
What are we going to do?
And then Joe Rogan calls.
Well, hold on.
You are the worst. Let him tell his story.
We had Drew Hernandez here, who's sitting right here.
I don't know what camera works for Drew.
I don't know, Lydia. How do I switch this thing?
He's got a job to do, Lydia. We are all here. We are all here, and it's amazing. don't know, Lydia. How do I switch this thing? You've got a job to do, Lydia.
We are all here.
We are all here,
and it's amazing.
Get to work.
Get to work, woman.
This is rough.
It's for me.
Oh, I don't want to
throw it across all this stuff.
Pass it, Ian.
Give it to Ian.
Pass it that way.
I want to pass it.
We're a disorganized mess.
Thank you, Lydia.
Okay, hold on.
I warned everyone
this would be a cacophony.
You were kidding.
Okay, so hold on.
The way it is,
there'll be a lot of people talking.
Drew is here.
And I was like, Drew, Drew, like if the verdict comes in.
Oh, it's Joe Rogan.
There you go.
What up?
Bro, thanks for coming, man.
You're now podcasting out of an RV, brother.
How the mighty have fallen.
Ladies and gentlemen.
Look at that beautiful bastard.
The show is about to begin.
We got Alex Jones, Joe Rogan, Tim Poole, Michael Malice, Drew Hernandez.
This is it right now.
This is breaking the internet.
I am breaking the internet.
Everyone needs to share this link now.
A dog bit me.
A dog bit me. A dog bit me.
I did.
What the fuck did you do to that dog?
I misgendered it.
Oh, he did.
All right, so I'll talk about me like that.
Let me wrap this story.
How did the dog bite you?
We try not to swear.
Suddenly. We try to be family friendly.
We have limited time with Lord Rogan.
Let's hear what he has to say.
Drew is here.
We were talking like, Drew, if the verdict
comes in on the Rittenhouse case, he's an eyewitness.
He filmed it. I was like, can you stick around
to come on the show?
Saw the whole thing.
Saw the whole thing, Rogan.
He testified in the trial.
It was totally different than the video, right?
What part?
Just kidding.
No, it wasn't.
Not at all.
That was my part.
That was my part.
When you see people like Anna Kasparian saying, I thought it was a totally different thing.
The footage has been out for like the entire time.
But everybody thought it was a totally different thing. Because they would also out for like the entire time. But everybody thought it was a totally different thing.
Because they would also censor the footage.
You couldn't block it.
Because the corporate press is the enemy of the people.
Did you see how MSNBC would not show the defense responses?
Only the prosecution.
Only the prosecution.
So we were like, Drew, stick around.
And then when this show just became whatever, whatever the hell was going on,
everyone was like, Tim, did you ask Joe to come on?
And I was like, oh, Joe, he's got a show.
He's a busy guy.
And I was like, well, hey, Joe, you want to break the internet?
You know, Michael was really excited.
We're not breaking the internet, bitch.
I'm just showing up at your weird trailer.
Remember when I told you, though, I was going to get a van.
This stuff is ridiculous.
It's awesome.
It really is dope.
I love the lighting.
I love the fact you have a screen here.
It's brilliant, right?
I love it.
I want it.
This is amazing. I want it. This is amazing.
I like it.
The screen that, so you can't see it on camera, but the screen we have for everyone to watch
the news, like to see the news articles we pull up, rises up from the dress up.
Yeah.
That's very fancy.
I saw that at Hugh Hefner's house.
At Hugh Hefner's house.
That's right.
So, Joe Rogan in the house.
Alex Jones, ladies and gentlemen, right about basically everything.
Finally, it's all coming down.
The truth is coming out.
So Thomas Jefferson was in the Illuminati.
Bunch of demons.
Joe Rogan is the 46th president of the United States.
I smell sulfur.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
People are just giving us money.
Oh, God.
That's how it works, Jim.
I'm already.
So it's hot in here.
Listen, it's kind of exciting.
I like it. Let Joe talk.
Isn't it kind of exciting, though?
Obviously, the world has gone completely into chaos.
Isn't it great?
We are in this weird position where the mainstream media
is almost universally accepted
as at least being mostly full of shit.
Or partly full of shit.
Totally full of crap.
The most optimistic person says,
well, they lie sometimes.
That was never the case with Walter Cronkite.
Exactly. He also lied all the time.
Or was it?
He lied all the time, but people didn't realize it.
They lie like a crackhead hitting on a crack rock.
Alex, every word they say
is a lie, including and and the.
It's reached new levels
of lying, though.
No, we've reached new levels of being able to expose them.
They were lying to us into the Spanish War in Cuba
a hundred years ago.
Nothing's changed.
That's the truth.
Rosebud.
Yes.
Gulf of Tonkin, Operation Northwood.
It's always been lies.
They've always been lies.
Mass destruction.
Right.
This is the way they do business.
The New York Times refused to report
that Germany was targeting Jews.
Exactly.
Yes, because that would be buying into identity politics at the time because Jews were white.
And that's what Hitler said.
Jews weren't white.
And the government knew about it and they covered it up, including the railroads, which they could have stopped, but they decided not to.
There's a book called – hold on.
Let me just make one point.
There's a book called Buried by the Times.
Look it up.
And this was how they covered it up because they didn't want to buy into what Hitler was saying.
How are we – like how is it now different?
If they've been – I think they've been lying the whole time.
But how are we now figuring it out?
Well, I'll tell you what's about to happen.
They're devaluing the currency on purpose to crash all the world of currencies and bring out the great reset.
That's not what we're talking about, Alex.
This is the Build Back Better agenda, Malice.
Oh, you're asking, Malice, why it's happening.
You guys got to learn how to do this.
No, why it's more obvious.
When a guy starts talking, you don't talk over him.
Do we have a conch?
A conch to pass around.
Let him talk.
Go ahead, Malice, tell us.
No, listen, it's the Great Reset.
It's the Great Reset.
ResetWars.com
The point is,
it's the Great Reset, and they're plunging the world economy by design to consolidate control resetwars.com the point is, is this the great reset
and they're plunging the world economy
by design to consolidate
control and kill all the major currencies
that's why there's inflation
that's why there's supply chain breakdowns
I'm just telling you tomorrow's news today
there is a global destruction
of the supply chain and the world currencies
to bring in a new world currency
based on the vaccine passport
the issue, what they were asking is, you know, has the corporate press gotten worse?
And my point is we have more mechanisms to expose their depravity and malfeasance in real time.
For example, if this had been 20 years ago,
they would have been in a position not to let this Kyle Rittenhouse video,
anyone we know would ever see it.
Now, if you have some kind of hack journalist with his cameraman,
one's wearing a mask, one's not,
everyone has got a phone,
and all it takes is one person to film it,
put it on Twitter or Facebook,
and then immediately everyone can see it in real time.
Michael, I totally agree with you.
I just sent you a text message with a meme.
It's an amazing meme with Alex.
You got to look at this.
It's one of my favorite memes.
It's a You Are Here meme. It's a you are here meme.
It's all the shit that Alex has predicted that's come
true and where you are right now.
Let me read it. Can you get it on
your screen? Not through a text message.
You fucking primitive ape. Tweet it.
Tweet it out. Post it on Instagram.
Don't you have a Jamie?
I can't do that.
They'll pull it up. Wait, wait, wait. I can Facebook
it too, can't I? Let me just say this nicely. Everybody's right. I'm obnoxious and I'm horrible. Well, they'll pull it up. Wait, wait, wait. I can Facebook it too, can't I? Oh, yes. Let me just say this nicely.
Everybody's right.
I'm obnoxious and I'm horrible and I apologize.
No, that's not what the meme is.
The meme is that you're right.
Well, thank you, sir.
I'll send you the meme.
I'm saying Malice is trying to talk about how the establishment media is dead.
I'm talking about how the establishment is hitting us economically.
So he's making a legitimate point.
I'm making a separate point about the progenitor of the problems we have.
I think you guys are both true.
There is a global awakening, but there's also a drastic escalation when it comes to the great reset, the Build Back Better agenda,
what Klaus Schwab is having wet dreams about when it comes to enslaving humanity, making people live in pods, making people eat bugs, having them as little paid cousins.
That's because they're not going down without a fight.
Once the mask is off, you better get whatever you can.
But we win the fight quicker if we know who they are.
Look at that meme.
Make that larger.
Make that meme larger.
Look at that shit.
You're TV spying and you check.
Elite cabal of sex traffickers, check.
They're turning to frogs gay.
Check.
It's like from Aphrodite.
It's from Aphrodite, right?
Bohemian Grove, check.
Silver iodide, not really sure.
Rich people using baby blood.
I'm not sure.
That's true.
No, it's happening down in Mexico right now.
Is it really?
Yes, it is.
People are doing that, yep.
You are here, human monkey chimeras.
Oh, I'm looking forward to that.
Which he predicted a long time ago.
Well, where's that?
Wait, you're saying the elves aren't real?
No, no, that's next.
Well, the elves are real.
Of course they're real.
They're coming next.
All right, so hold on.
What is silver iodide?
That's like some shit that kills diseases.
Yeah, it's true.
It's essentially true, but also poison.
Now, let me...
And makes your skin blue.
But I'll point something out.
I'll point something out about this meme.
The TV's spying on you.
Alex, you were pointing these things out
because they were happening.
The turning the frogs gay, that was atrazine.
I believe that's a pesticide, right?
And that was messing with the endocrine systems of frogs,
which was causing weird deformity.
I was just covering a Berkeley study, yeah.
But it was more changing their gender.
I'll be here for five hours.
Joe's got to go to his show.
Then why are you yelling?
That's how he talks normally. You have you yelling? That's how he talks normally.
You have a microphone.
I'm sorry. I am the Alex Whisperer.
You should see him in church.
Take the vaccine.
Okay, I'm going to hear what
Joe Rogan has to say.
Joe's nice to say nice things about me, but
Joe's also predicted a lot of stuff that came true.
What did I predict?
Oh, my God. Have you watched your earlier comedy did I predict? You predicted... Oh, my God.
Have you watched your earlier comedy?
I don't think I...
Oh.
Probably not.
Maybe.
Okay, I remember in, like, 1999,
I just met Joe before, like,
I got to dinner with him and, like, this producer I know,
and then I go to see him at the Cap City Comedy Club,
now defunct,
and he goes up and he goes,
let me tell you what's going to kill the corporate media
in Hollywood and everybody.
It's going to be the Internet.
It was the first guy I heard say this.
100%.
He goes, there's no way they can compete with the Internet.
He did this whole freaking rant, and it was all true.
And then he went on to say, but the sucky part about technology is,
is they claim we have all these Jetson suits and jetpacks and all this incredible stuff,
but instead your cell phone craps out when you're behind a bush.
Yeah.
Right.
The problem, like, this is like, you ever see movie, Talladega Nights, where it says
you ain't first, you're last? He's like, I was high
when I said that. Same answer.
There you go, man.
I feel like corporate media is no longer NBC, ABC.
Now it's Google.
Of course.
In a way, it's worse.
Facebook is worse than ABC.
It needs to be decentralized.
It needs to be decentralized open communication needs to be decentralized. Yes, sir. It needs to be decentralized
open communication
where people need to find out what the fuck
is really going on. We're finding that through
all these corporate,
all these internet companies, whether it's
Google or whether it's Facebook
or Instagram, if they can just censor
you based on ideology, then you don't have
freedom of speech because they're the primary
means that people communicate.
So until we accept that there's some sort of utility,
it's not as simple as it's a private company.
When it's literally one of the main two or three ways
that human beings share ideas across the planet fucking Earth,
it's bigger than just a company.
And I don't know what the solution to that is,
but we have to have that conversation.
Free the software. I mean, Joe's to have that conversation. Free the software.
Joe's not having that conversation. They're abusing
their power. Because the way
it censors is always in favor
of the left. And the people on the left
think that's a good idea. But eventually
you can't be left enough. It's just going to
keep going. It's a machine.
It's Pac-Man.
Wait, wait, wait. I've got to ask Joe.
So
a couple years ago, you had jack dorsey on
your show you got a bunch of dislikes on the video we ended up talking you ended up inviting me out
and i don't know destroyed him well it's not about that i want i wanted to ask you like how do you
feel your opinion has changed since before we did that show and to where we're today there's a lot
of things have opened my eyes like slowly surely, like seeing examples of people censored.
And some of them that don't make any sense at all.
Like one of the best ones was Brett Weinstein and his whole Unity Party.
Yeah.
When that got censored, I was like, okay, you guys banned an account for no reason because you thought that that account, which is by a bunch of influential intellectuals, was going to somehow or another take votes away from what you thought was the party that should win.
And so you just banned the account.
So you're making these ideological choices about free speech.
So you're saying your free speech is not as important as the result that I want.
And so you're going to ban people.
And when I saw that, I was like, this is wild. This is fucking
wild. And then I talked to a lot of people
that were the
Second Amendment advocates.
They were saying before the election,
they were going back into their Instagrams
and their Facebooks and finding posts
from eight, nine years ago
and banning them for those posts.
That they were going deep. Yeah, they were
doing that just specifically because they didn't want
people influencing the vote
in any way. A thousand here,
a hundred there. If they could just chip away
through all these different angles.
Let's just briefly look
at that. Imagine, it's one
thing for an orthodoxy
to take over and make you comply, but to
punish you before it took over is
thought crime
before i mean this is mind control this is this is this is like in science fiction this was never
dreamed of where you're punished for behavior before the new orthodoxy comes in so you don't
just submit in the current state you're going to pay for not adopting it before it was the new
i gotta correct you this isn't not science fiction this is what they did in the Soviet Union where if you were on the wrong
side before Stalin took over you were executed
with your family, so this has historical precedent
my family was literally tortured
in Poland for daring to question
the government or not having the proper paperwork
during a random passport check
no no no, I know tyrants do that
Luke, I know tyrants do that
listen, listen, it's retroactive
enforcement, retroactive enforcement. Yes.
Retroactive.
They cut his fucking nose in Chinatown.
Let me, let me, let me, I want to counter this, though, because we were actually heading in a direction in this conversation. We were talking about how we're actually starting to realize how deceptive the media is.
And then I pointed it over to Drew because these same tools are what allowed, you know, Drew to be on the ground during the Rittenhouse, during the Kenosha incident, film it, and then be a witness.
The media could have absolutely shut it down.
You'd see a newspaper article, and it would say, white supremacist crosses state lines with gun.
And that's the only thing you'd know, and they tried it.
Drew, Richie, Jorge Ventura, Elijah Schaefer.
They broke that paradigm.
You guys were down there.
And then to watch the prosecutor try to go, oh, you're a right-winger.
You're evil.
It's like it's footage. It's raw. Like Joe said, oh, and then they saw the prosecutor try to go, oh, you're a right winger. You're evil. It's like it's footage.
It's raw.
Like Joe said, oh, and then they saw the raw footage.
Once you see that, it's game over.
He literally tried to say that my footage was slanted in a certain way.
And I responded and I said, well, yes, it's BLM and Antifa literally rioting in the footage.
What people need to understand is this propaganda is so dangerous, not because they're just telling lies, but they're attempting to control the narrative, which is an attempt to control your mind.
And that's what's dangerous.
Whether you're a Republican or a Democrat, that should seriously concern you because this is what they do to control the minds of millions of people.
And it's allowed on a daily basis.
It's encouraged.
It's encouraged.
And why don't people take issue with this, that people are to control your mind because on a daily basis of
the average man would rather be uh safe than be free we're taught since kids to defer that expert
the front of the room and one of the reasons they also don't just be one sense one the reason they
always talk about follow the experts it's not just with uh um covid it's also with this am i going to
look at the footage and draw my own conclusion or am i going to listen to the prosecutor okay joe
you were saying something.
It's so sad because I don't know any progressive.
I know a lot of progressives, and not one of them knows that one of the victims of Kyle was a pedophile.
They all think it was an innocent black BLM protester.
Who raped the kid.
It's not like he had attractions.
Five kids.
Five kids.
Five kids, and he was an underage boy during this, you know, battle with him.
So it messed with people so badly.
I know so many people that have no information about the case but have an opinion completely made up.
Wasn't the other guy, didn't he get all his charges dismissed on previous cases?
Six days before.
Six days before he had a DUI charge drop, but he was a career criminal.
I mean, he went down for domestic abuse, prowling, trespassing, two DUIs, felony burglary, two counts of carrying
a firearm while intoxicated.
This is cult shit. We're in a cult.
This is a cult.
Tell us, Joe.
Tell us, Joe.
Speak to us, leader.
How's the Kool-Aid taste?
Shut up, man.
This information is not based on reality.
This is a left-wing cult.
And they're pumping stuff out, and then they're confirming this belief.
They're all getting together, and they're ignoring contrary evidence.
They're ignoring any narrative that challenges their belief about what happened.
And they're not looking at it realistically.
They're only looking at it like you would look at it if you're in a fucking cult.
Sounds like religion.
It's a weird left...
Well, cult is a religion that's just older.
I had a bit about it.
Well, a cult doesn't let you ask questions.
Keep juggling.
Well, a cult is made by a guy,
and that guy knows it's a cult.
In a religion, that guy's dead.
That's the difference.
Like, religions are just cults that last longer.
And some of them prove to be worthwhile,
like social and economic and even moral structures.
They actually benefit society.
Some cults, they're based on rituals or things that people learned,
and they realize this is a better way to live their life.
But some of them are just based on the present moment of gathering the most amount of,
whether it is influence or finances or power?
Whatever the fuck it is.
That's what this is.
I totally agree.
So let me ask the next question.
I really want to hear what you have to say.
What is the period we're in now?
Because it seems like it's coming to an end.
This is Kali Yuga, man.
This is some weird shit that was predicted by the Bhagavad Gita.
Gurdwara Dhammarang, Battle of the Gods, Ragnarok.
Tell me. This is what end of times. Good or Dalarong, Battle of the Gods, Ragnarok. Tell me. This is what happens in cultures.
They go through these pitches, these ups and downs, and it's almost inevitable.
It's almost impossible for us with our human reward systems that are based on animal emotions and biology
to manage millions and millions and millions of people all on one continent
with money and the economy and the fucking environment.
It's almost impossible to do.
So it almost always slides into authoritarianism.
And the best way it slides into authoritarianism is to control the narrative.
Joe, you've got to keep going, brother.
That's it.
So you say it's almost impossible.
How would you say we can do it?
Mushrooms.
Beautifully said.
Eat mushrooms!
Eat mushrooms!
You've got to love each other.
We need mushrooms.
We've got to realize we're all in this thing together.
We can, instead of competing with each other, just do your best and give everybody hugs.
I agree.
So let's expand on that.
No, you don't agree.
You're not in this thing with some of these people.
Why do hallucinogens take and properly create such peace?
Why are they true? Because they eliminate the ego, and the ego is responsible for most of the conflict. Why do hallucinogens taken properly create such peace?
Because they eliminate the ego, and the ego is responsible for most of the conflict.
Most of the conflict is instead of thinking, I've got to get this guy back.
Just relax.
Everybody relax.
Everybody look at this.
What does everybody want in terms of food culture? You forgave me three years ago when I was being a dick.
And it was so much better.
I try to forgive everybody.
Listen.
It was amazing.
What does everybody want in this life?
You want good friends. You want to be safe. You want your children to go to forget everybody. What does everybody want in this life? You want good friends.
You want to be safe.
You want your children to go to good schools.
You want your loved ones to be protected.
You want people to get by and have a good life
for as long as they possibly can.
That's what everybody wants.
But you think that other people are trying to stop you from having that.
Other people are trying to stop you from having that.
There's a few sociopaths that want to gather it all up for themselves.
There's small amounts of people.
But Joe, I've had this conversation with Ian a whole lot because Ian's the voice
on our show who's always telling us to stop being
so dark and try and bring people together.
But you look at the prosecutor
in the Rittenhouse case. He's a demon.
Overwhelmed, like lying.
You see the judge say that was a
grave constitutional violation.
I think that's been going on forever.
It has.
Just finally we have the internet.
Correct.
Thank you.
And now we can see it for what it is.
We can see it.
And now conservatives are realizing, you know the old conservative line about like, oh,
if you haven't done anything wrong, don't worry about getting arrested, you'll be fine.
That's not true.
I know, but conservatives are now realizing, wait a minute, when the government, the eye
of Sauron has you in their sights, they're going to do whatever they can.
I've been experiencing that, where they just lie about everything.
Alex, what were you just saying about not interrupting?
Malice.
Just the one point is people don't have a lot of love for you.
Start over.
I'm not going to start over.
I'm just going to say my one sentence, which is conservatives now realizing when the government, which is the eye of Sauron, has you in their
sights, they're going to do whatever they can to
break you. And this is something that disproportionately
hurts poor people, and the left
has been arguing about that for a long time, and they were right.
Yeah, that's inarguable, right?
Yes. But now the left's all
anti-free speech, anti-the process.
Well, there's something to say about what's happening right now.
Some people have called it the fourth turning.
You could feel it. It's energetic. You about what's happening right now. Some people have called it the fourth turning. You could feel it.
It's energetic.
You know something's happening.
You see the Titanic.
You see the iceberg.
You're like, holy cow, the ship is heading somewhere.
But at the end of the day, we could still decide where it goes.
And I think to Joe's point, mushrooms, decentralization are ways to start the conversation.
But I think we should focus on that as well because I think that's the true kind of opening that we should be really examining and looking into because there is something to
talk about with so much power and influence
here. We could do something incredible here.
I don't know about mushrooms, but that NAD
stuff was legit. Nicotinamide
adenine dinucleotide.
Can we talk about DMT while Joe's here?
Because he's giving me DMT next
week. I am? Or should I not say that?
No. We were thinking about it.
Going down to South America for a religious retreat perhaps. Oh, I'm so in. Well, I not say that? No. We were thinking about it. Going down to South America for a religious retreat
perhaps. Oh, I'm so in.
Well, I take DMT every morning.
I think we should take DMT.
We all take DMT when we sleep.
That's what I was saying.
How do you prepare
for your first time though? Because I'm nervous.
I've heard you've got to do a dieta, which is
a 10-day fast where you basically eat only
stop all that hippie bullshit.
Put your fucking woody beans aside and shut your pie hole.
You don't have to do any of those things.
Have you taken ayahuasca?
It's the same thing.
It's dimethyltryptamine.
Look, it's good to have an empty stomach.
Yeah, but listen, what you really need to do is just relax and let it happen.
Have you taken ayahuasca?
No, I've only taken DMT.
We've got to do ayahuasca.
I've taken... I don't know how to do shit with you taken Aya? No, I've only taken DMT. We've got to do ayahuasca.
I don't know how to do shit with you.
You filthy hippie, get a haircut!
We need to. All of a sudden, I'm in his house,
confused.
When do I throw up?
All these psychedelic drugs, the big thing is just letting go.
That's the biggest problem that people have.
Let yourself go, like Elvis says.
It's hard to just not fight it. That's one of the biggest lessons that people have. Let yourself go, like Elvis says. It's hard to just not fight it.
Well, that's one of the biggest lessons when you do
delve into psychedelics, is not to take yourself
too seriously. Let things go. Let love
and the positive energies kind of flow in a
direction where you're not trying to control
everything. When you're trying to control everything, that's when
things get nasty and disgusting. Whether in
relationships, whether in government, whether
in religion, anytime you try to force
something onto someone, shit gets bad.
It gets disgusting.
I totally agree.
But while we've got Joe here, let me just ask this one question of Joe.
And I want to hear from Tim and everybody here.
But this is my real question.
After all the suppression of free speech we've seen in the last 20 months,
and after all the attacks on medical experts that were pointing certain things out
that's now all been proven right,
I mean, what does the power structure do now that it's committed seppuku, suicide?
I'm really concerned.
No, no, no, no.
Don't be naive.
It has not committed suicide.
Most people still believe the news is accurate.
Most people still believe I took horse dewormer.
Most people still believe some of the dumbest ideas
because most people are casual observers of information.
So you're saying I'm blinded by the fact that i'm i can see what's going on it's your job
you're you're like a guy who's like a tennis analyst that thinks that everybody knows who
roger federer is most people have no fucking idea right it's like the the amount of people
that actually pay attention to all this so i'm blinded by the fact that i'm informed that's a
good point yeah you're very informed you're always on it but most people are uninformed
because they're busy all day.
They have jobs and they have kids and they have a mortgage and they fucking go bowling or whatever they like to do.
They don't have the time.
Whatever the normies do.
They watch football.
They don't have time to be paying attention to all this fucking shit.
So instead of a normalcy bias, I have kind of an awake bias.
So what do we do then?
Listen, listen.
I was arguing with someone about the Rittenhouse trial right now.
A friend of mine who's on the left who said, I don't understand how you're defending this kid.
And when I said, like, a few key details about the case, they said, I didn't hear that.
And then they responded, to be honest, I was kind of just listening in the background while I was at work.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's all crazy, right?
Like, should he have just showed up with an AR-15 at this protest?
Like, why is he there?
He's a 17-year-old kid with a fucking load of...
But then you learned his dad lived there.
Then you learned his dad lived there.
Then you learned his family had a store there, right?
Yeah.
They worked there.
Didn't his family work there?
His dad had a business in his business.
His dad is a grandma.
His cousins.
He worked there.
His best friend worked there.
That was his hometown.
His mom had left.
But how wild are these fucking people?
This is like wild and wonderful whites of West Virginia.
They said, son, load up your AR-15.
We want to drive you to the protest.
You're 17.
Like, to take a 17-year-old kid to the middle of a fucking protest with a loaded...
No, no, I agree.
It wasn't a protest.
It was a riot.
It was a violent riot.
I understand.
Okay, let's say it's a riot.
But before it happened, it was a protest.
But still, if you have children...
Has anybody here besides me and Alex have children?
Negative.
When you have kids, the last thing you want to tell your 17-year-old is,
hey, son, we're going to take you down to that riot.
My son's bigger than me.
And he's going to pop off some caps.
He said, I'm going to a riot.
I beat his ass before he went.
That's wild shit.
Like, I'm not, this is not a judgment call.
I'm saying it's a very unusual move.
Wait, hold on.
To drive your 17-year-old kid across the state line.
I mean, I like Rittenhouse, but they're a little weird.
Wait, wait, wait.
The state line thing is too much.
31 miles.
Yeah, but it's still state line, right?
I get it.
But his father lived there.
Hold on.
Here's why it's much.
Do you know the law?
There's a law when it comes to firearms.
He didn't bring a gun across state lines.
State lines are a real thing.
If you live in one place and you go to another place specifically for this reason,
the prosecutors or the lawmakers or whoever is going to look at it very differently.
Just because you're crossing a state line.
That's just fact.
It's like you're invading.
That being said, if you do something inside of Kansas, that's inside of Kansas.
If you decide to cross over into another place, it becomes a different thing.
That being said, there are people who live in places like Buffalo and Detroit and Calexico
who have enhanced IDs who are able to go back and forth as if it's not.
Is that what he had?
Well, he lived like a mile from the border.
It's a bedroom community.
And Kenosha was, it's the suburb of Kenosha.
But what a lot of people are missing is he went across the border and then got a gun.
Right.
He didn't cross the border with the gun.
Correct.
So he went across the border and then he got a gun.
Also, he's not even 18.
It's kind of wild.
Like if you think about an actual 17-year-old boy, they're boys.
He's more of a man than any of those police officers.
He did a very good job.
You son of a bitch with your fucking cut nose.
But at the same time.
Jack Nicholson in Chinatown.
They cut his nose.
Talked too much shit.
But Joe, you've got to understand.
During that summer, police officers stood back.
Police officers literally were talking.
Stand down.
Don't do anything.
Oh, for sure.
It's not a clean issue.
That was a huge aspect to it.
And it's not.
And I don't think this is the best case to argue,
but I think this is the kind of pivotal point that a lot of people,
especially the corporate media, are focusing on,
because this is the argument that they want to make to disarm people.
Well, I'll go back to they're not showing the defense arguments on a lot of TV channels.
That discredits them right there.
But let me ask Joe before he's got to go here.
He's got to go to a comedy show tonight.
Let me ask Joe his view shifting gears on the political
correct wars. Hold on, hold on. Keep talking
about this because this is an important thing
to expand on what we're talking about here.
Like, this is...
Here's the problem. Here's the big problem.
Why did he have to do that?
Hold on. Why did he have
to do that? Why did he have...
No, no, no. What compelled
him to do that? Because of anarchy. Because there was chaos in, no, no, no. What compelled him to do that? Because it was anarchy.
Because there was chaos in the street
because they were allowing it to happen.
Correct.
The reason why people were willing to tell their kid,
hey, this is a good idea to get your fucking loaded gun
and we're going to, like...
It's because civilization's collapsing.
Right.
They finally go, hell, let's have a war.
This wasn't anarchy.
This was state-funded, mainstream media promoted chaos.
Kamala was bailing out Kamala Harris.
Kamala Harris was literally bailing them out with big tech social media promoting these protests.
These people aren't getting detailed instructions on exactly what to do.
They're Antifa people, right?
They're wild motherfuckers that have criminal records.
Pedophiles.
They are getting instructions.
They're organized.
They're organized.
Who's giving them organized instructions?
Whatever the cell is.
So, Joe, what happens when he's found not guilty?
I predict that.
When they're telling him...
Do you think someone's
telling him to attack this kid?
No, hold on, hold on.
No, it's just not...
They were telling him
to attack that second car.
Hold on, I can actually answer this.
He spent his whole life
attacking kids.
So, there's something important
a lot of conservatives
don't understand about
these wealthy billionaires
who fund these non-profits.
There will be two people
from an organization
that is funded.
They come down to events
and they know there's a lot of angry people
who have no idea what's going on.
They don't say to them,
hey, go attack that kid.
They just say things like, if anyone
tries to stop them, don't let them.
Respect the diversity of tactics.
It's a very common phrase. It means if someone is committing
acts of violence, let them do it. And that's bad.
And they have strategies.
They call themselves often facilitators.
They will come down to
a riot and then guide
the destruction in certain ways and try
and take the violence
and use it. We got secret Antifa documents
five years ago where they, even
in Democrat areas, are working with the police
and the government and they have targets they're going to burn,
things they're going to hit.
In some ways, it's a rhetorical
question. What I'm saying is, why did he have to do that?
He had to do that because everything was falling apart.
Joe, elaborate.
Can I just say one sentence? I had Robert Barnes
on my show this week. He worked for the defense
team. My understanding, according to Robert, is
the people who ran
that car dealership called Kyle
and several other people because that car dealership called Kyle and several other people
because that car dealership had been hit night after night.
So they were specifically called in to defend this location.
There's four locations, and they circled around.
Which people are allowed to defend their property?
Yes, of course, especially when the police are saying we refuse to do anything.
So, Joe, to answer your question.
People forget how bad summer of 2020 was.
I lived in the middle of Hollywood when it was all at its peak,
and I had to evacuate my home and hide in the woods
and stay there for two weeks until it was somewhat safe to go back.
Yeah, that's the key, right?
I'm surprised there wasn't more of that.
There wasn't more car-ridden people.
Three dozen people died.
Joe, you left LA.
How many?
Three dozen.
Listen, I showed up on night one in Kenosha, right?
And right when I showed up on the scene,
they already had dumpster trucks on fire yeah the reason why i decided to take an uber from chicago
all the way to kenosha was because on twitter they were already taking bricks to police officers
heads and knocking them unconscious so there was literally nothing peaceful it was never a peaceful
protest from night one most of the mainstream media doesn't want to talk about this. A mostly fiery peaceful protest, right?
But it was, listen,
I always say this,
Kenosha from night one
was obviously a riot,
but it was a crime scene
for three days straight.
And here's why I say this.
On the third night
when I returned back to Kenosha,
I was talking to some of the people
on the ground,
some of the people
that had their businesses
burned down to the ground.
When you were walking down the street,
people had their windows boarded up.
They were writing things like, children live here. You want to know why they were writing that? Because there was a threat to the ground. When you were walking down the street, people had their windows boarded up. They were writing things like,
children live here.
You want to know why they were writing that?
Because there was a threat to the community.
There was an obvious threat to the community.
People thought that they were going to die, Alex.
People thought that they were going to die in Kenosha
because of violent acts that were being committed
by these criminals.
And they're trying to paint this picture
that they were peaceful protesters.
At no point was Kenosha a peaceful protest
on night one,
night two, or night three.
And Joseph Rosenbaum was violent.
And night four, after Kyle did
his duty, they brought up the National Guard.
Abolish the police. Yes, of course.
Hey, but Joe, you were saying it's all
rhetorical. What's the answer then?
I don't have an answer, bro.
Come on, man.
I do love the constant, like, Joe, tell us.
He ain't going to be here the whole time.
I know.
Joe, just fix the world already, all right?
What are you doing?
Come on.
We're waiting here.
Trying to guide this thing.
Do everything for us.
What was the question?
You know, Blair's right.
We forget what the fuck it was like.
It was terrifying.
It was terrifying.
The world was falling apart.
There was cop cars lit on fire all throughout
Hollywood. They were calling
a curfew in Beverly
Hills at like 4pm
or some shit. And people were just
smashing windows and stealing things.
And they were allowing it. They were letting it
burn out. So people
had this feeling that no one was going to protect
anyone. When you
look at the way things stand today,
we have much more of a semblance of law and order.
But when you go back to those George
Floyd protests, it was anarchy.
It was legitimate chaos.
And I don't think people have
long memories. They have very short memories.
But the cop cars,
actually, I know someone who
rents out a ton of prop cop cars
for movies in LA, and some of those were fake, like on Melrose, which is out a ton of prop cop cars for movies in LA and some of those
were fake, like on Melrose, which is weird.
I don't know why. They were fake cop cars?
Yeah, they were prop cars. Well, let me tell you.
I don't know why. There was shooting and burning and robbing
in Austin and deaths. I was driving
through and Andy was backing on my window
so there was stuff going down there.
Yeah. I don't know
if those were fake cars, but I know that's a fun thing to say.
Those cop cars weren't even real, bro.
They were made by the cop cars.
A million dollars of property loss.
They were prop cars like Alec Baldwin's prop gun.
Well, the scariest thing was looking at New York City when they were smashing windows
and that really, whatever that art area is.
Soho.
Yeah, they were stealing things right out of these buildings, and the cops were literally standing on the corner watching that happen.
Like, that is madness.
I remember watching that on Fox News.
They were literally...
This was...
I wouldn't say this was anarchy,
because if we had anarchy,
we would have peaceful, harmonious trade of capital.
Amen, brother.
Liv!
Liv, come on!
Don't leave me hanging, Luke!
What we had...
What we had...
What we had is government-funded, orchestrated chaos by the top institutions and powerhouses in this world saying,
I want this to happen.
I will incentivize it.
I will spread propaganda.
I will put fuel on the fire guaranteeing that this violence exports.
Can I ask Joe?
They wanted people to riot?
100%.
100%.
100%.
Joe, I got a question for you.
I'm not trying to change subjects because the Rittenhouse thing is huge and anarchy is all.
What about Joe Biden?
Because you early on said he's seen all.
A year before he got in.
Well, everybody said it.
It wasn't anything.
Let me ask you then.
That's my next question.
Everybody, go around the roundtable.
What is the prediction?
Because now they're in the Washington Post and the New York Times saying Joe Biden's got to go.
Kamala Harris, Pete Buttigieg.
What happens to Joe Biden?
Well, have you heard the things that they're trying to figure out?
Jill Biden was asking whether...
Did you read those things?
Jill Biden was asking whether or not they can get rid of Kamala.
Yeah.
Whoa, really?
Oh, yeah.
I don't know if it's true.
I just read some shit online.
No, no.
I was watching.
It was on MSNBC before I came on the show.
If you choose at the end of the day, they've got to find someone who could fill Joe Biden's shoes.
But if they decided to have Pete Buttigieg leapfrog over Kamala Harris, it's going to be wild.
Because the hardcore lefties are going to abandon each other.
It's going to get really wild because the people that wanted her in there because of identity politics
and now have a point of argument, even whether or not they think she was good or not.
They think that she got in, they wanted her in,
for whatever specific reasons, and now she's in,
and you're going to have this guy leapfrog over her?
If that happens, if they think the only way they can win in 2024
is Pete Buttigieg, we're going to have wild...
And see, I am kissing Joe's ass,
because he's really politically smart,
and I knew this 20 years ago, but he's doing it now.
Exactly.
They're clearly pre-positioning Buttigieg to take over.
It's all over the freaking news.
He's the vice president.
It's a trial balloon
because her approval
ratings are 28%.
Everyone in Washington
hates her.
Gavin Newsom hates her
because she took
the California position
for the presidency
away from him.
What?
He hates her?
Of course he hates her.
How do you know?
Because she's...
You're talking shit.
Is that why they
cut your nose?
That's fake.
It's a false flag.
Careful, Alex. You don't want to get in trouble with that.
I think they're going to take Michelle Obama or Oprah
2024.
They're openly saying
everywhere, we've got to replace Biden
now. That's everywhere.
I'm asking, what are they planning?
That satchel page thing was over the top.
People were like, check.
Check, please.
What was that?
The Negro thing.
The Negro leagues.
Yeah, he's the number one.
I won't even say it.
He's the best in the world.
Did you see, though, when the judge, I keep coming back to Rittenhouse case.
The judge said, I hope Asian food is not on the Long Beach port.
And they were like, what a racist.
Joe Biden comes out and said, you know, took the heat off him.
Let's be 100 percent clean here.
Right.
On this whole thing.
The point is, he's degenerating.
Right.
It's clearly something's wrong.
So it's not it's not it's not fair.
It's not it's like to judge him like in comparison to like judging Obama when he was in office
or judging even Trump when he was on.
It's not fair.
He's got a problem.
There's something wrong with him.
It's not as simple as I don't like the things he stands for or the special interest groups that have got him into power.
I don't like his politics.
That's not what's going on here.
This is a man who's compromised.
Something's wrong, and he's deteriorating.
And either we admit that, and we all admit it.
We all know it.
Or we don't admit it.
So we don't admit it
and China just starts
fucking filling up Facebook
with a bunch of fake pages.
And we have chaos constantly.
You know, I mean,
that's part of what's going on
like with the conversations
that people are having online.
Yeah, nobody respects us
because of him.
Right.
And it's insane.
He's the first president
who's literally shitty.
Bye!
You got poopy pants.
Michael Malice, ladies and gentlemen.
Give it up for Michael Malice.
But that's part of what's happening.
You know, it's like we're in the cult.
And if you're in the cult, you have to pretend that the cult leader's okay.
You know the cult leader's not okay.
In fact, have you seen all the Twitter stuff?
More and more people are opening their mouths.
More and more people are going, hey, we gotta do something.
And people are like, okay, okay, okay.
And so they're coming out of this fucking fog, and they're going, what about that Pete Buttigieg guy?
Well, he spent three months off for his fucking kid.
Like, that's okay, that's okay.
People have short memories.
Let's get him back in here.
What about the meme I sent you today of, like, the Hollywood guys going, he's a rock star.
He's punk rock.
I mean, there's still, some are still trying to.
Oh, that's Joe Biden.
Yeah, Joe Biden.
Well, Pete Buttigieg does have intelligence agency connections.
So he was tried to be as the kind of prop guy.
They did try to push him.
So I wouldn't be surprised if they try to push him again.
But again, the mainstream media, let's admit this.
Don't call it mainstream, Luke.
Corporate media put in Biden.
The corporate media will be putting in the next president of the United States.
And to me, Biden is the fall guy.
They're definitely going to try.
But the problem is they don't have a clear person that stands up and goes, oh.
Like on the right, if Trump wasn't around, you look at Ron DeSantis, you go, that's the guy.
He's strong.
He's reasonable.
Shut the fuck up.
He's strong.
He's reasonable.
He's calm.
He's made great judgment choices during this pandemic with Florida.
They've turned out to be, although controversial, ultimately, you go to the end result.
Good choices.
Well, you know why I don't like Trump.
In terms of business, in terms of real estate, all these different things that didn't deteriorate
like they did in these other countries where they kept the same mortality rate.
You look at Florida's business.
Florida's business did very well in comparison to California.
California took a big hit.
The restaurants, even though they have the same sort of
mortality rate, when you adjust for
age, Florida did better. And then when you
look at business, Florida did way better.
California has doubled the cases of Florida right now.
But here's the next question.
Whose fault is that?
I didn't get money because I supported
Trump. I didn't think Trump was perfect.
I thought that he was...
You got Pokemon dollars, right?
Exactly.
I thought he was more of a populist, better than, you know, what we were being offered.
And so, with Hillary Clinton, who I know is evil.
But now, I almost see Trump as destructive because he becomes the opposition to the Democrats,
but he's got his own issues.
I want it to be populist, not left or not right, but Americans
coming together and saying no to Joe Biden,
no to the Democratic Party that lied about
Russiagate and all of it. I don't think Trump's
a bad guy, but I want to be clear.
At the end of the day, he went along with Warp Speed,
he went along with the experimental shot,
and he's pig-headed, and he
won't admit he was wrong. So I'm not going to
criticize Biden and Pfizer
for this, and Fauci, and then give Trump a pass.
And with Trump's base, I go to these big events with 5, 10, 20,000 people.
They're really upset.
And then Trump is so pig-headed that he is still going along with the vaccine.
They blew him in Alabama.
We have to say, always talk to your doctor about what's right for you.
Don't take advice from people on the Internet.
Talk to your doctor if you're feeling unwell and you want to get advice on what you should do to treat yourself.
Pfizer loves you, too.
Take your booster shot.
Fauci.
Now they're doing a –
This show is outrageous.
New York has announced booster shots.
I'm not comfortable here.
The U.K. now –
It's a fucking trailer on the side of the road.
Don't you know who I am? I was like joking. We're in a trailer on the side of the road. Don't you know who I am?
I was like,
we're in a trailer on the side of the road.
England is announcing
if you don't have the boosters,
you're going to be locked in your house just like Austria and Australia.
And France too.
But let's not talk about it because they'll ban us on there.
You're right. I want hundreds of shots
and I think Trump's wonderful then.
Alex Jones is saying,
I'm sick of fucking Trump
and I'm sick of all these fucking people.
Why haven't you guys gotten him drunk yet?
We can't do that. That's bad.
Listen, listen, listen.
There's a big difference between
someone's private medical decisions.
The way I see it is,
I went to the doctor, you went to the doctor,
and they gave us specific medical advice.
Joe, let me tell you. When I talked to the doctor, I went to the doctor and they gave us specific medical advice Joe let me tell you, when I talked to the doctor, I actually
asked them, I said, I don't want ivermectin
or Z-Pak, I said, the monoclonal antibodies
fixed me up just right good
and the doctor said, no
I want you to finish what you've been
prescribed, and I said
do I really have to, and they said yes
because if it comes back, this is what we're prescribing you.
And so I was actually kind of critical.
And the media still lies about it.
The point is, if you go to your doctor and you figure out whatever you want, I don't care.
That's fine.
Do what you want to do.
A lot of people have asked me, would you get the vaccine now?
Well, I got Regeneron, the monoclonal, so I can't.
And it provides eight months of protection or whatever.
That's what they're saying.
The point is, mandating by government a medical procedure for you to buy
lunch is fucking insane.
It is. Why are you swearing on the show?
It's over. It's over. But if
someone, if, look, I've got, we've had
so many people on the show who are like,
one guy was in his 50s
and he says doctor recommended it. He got it. He's absolutely
fine. He feels great. If you
choose to do it, I don't care what you choose to do. I'm not going
to pretend to be a doctor. I'm not going to pretend to know the secrets of the universe.
But I will stand up and say, fuck the government.
If they're going to tell you, you're obligated to get a permanent medical procedure.
Otherwise, you can't work.
You can't eat food.
You can't go to the movies.
You can't go to the bar.
Well, Tim, Tim, Tim, let's fact check this.
Fauci and Gates came out last week in videos I've played like 50 times.
People can pull this up.
And they both said, oh, sorry, It really doesn't work or do anything.
We've got a new vaccine coming out.
After six months, there's basically no immunity from the shot.
That's not a vaccine.
That's a paraphrasing.
It's a paraphrasing.
Come on, come on, come on.
The challenge with this stuff is.
No, no, no.
Joe, tell them.
I mean, I could.
Yeah, it wanes.
It wanes after time.
The real problem is it's unscientific because they don't recognize the natural immunity from previous infection.
Like if you have a real infection with COVID and you recover, you have a more robust natural immunity.
It's been shown by that Israeli study, which is 2.5 million people that have between 6 and 13 times better immunity than you got from the vaccine.
Let Joe finish.
They're in denial about this.
So they negate this,
and they pretend that it's difficult to measure,
but it's not difficult at all.
We do it at my studio all the time.
You do a very simple test for antibodies.
You can see it very clearly.
If you do this test,
you get a drop of blood,
and you see your immunity.
You find out that you have antibodies.
It's not hard.
If that's the case, that's just as good.
Not just as good.
Let's be kind and say it's as good.
But it's far better.
It's far better than you get if you got infected.
He got infected.
Hold on.
He got COVID.
He recovered.
So he has six to 13 times better immunity
than someone who gets the vaccine,
has like two weeks recovery from the vaccine
and now can go out into the world.
He's got better coverage.
I'll say two things. The first
is that I think politically this
is a pit trap.
A what? A pit trap.
A trick. You walk and then you stumble
through the leaves and you fall into the spikes.
Because right now they're saying we are going to
mandate three shots in the UK. Austria, France. And then what happens is you end up with Rand Paul, who I
like the guy, but he says, why aren't we taking natural immunity into the case? And I said,
why are you in any way excusing mandates for medical procedures, whether it be a test or a
shot? If we're talking about natural immunity, we're talking about you going to a facility,
taking time out of your day to get a medical test done if you want to buy food.
No, no, no.
He's taking one step.
He's taking one step in this examination of this narrative.
In their direction, though.
No, no, no.
He's saying one step in the navigation of this narrative is to look at what you're ignoring.
Yeah, why aren't you allowed to talk about natural immunity?
You're ignoring natural immunity.
Well, I know your whole case is bullshit.
So everything you say, whether you're in for mandates, whether you're telling children they have to get it, whatever the fuck you're saying.
As soon as you say your natural immunity from previous infection doesn't count or you try to pretend that it's impossible to check when you could check in seconds.
If you vaccinate someone, they're not good for two weeks.
You can check their immunity in seconds.
I have a fucking video of my phone of me
doing it. It takes seconds. Let me just say this.
The FDA put a letter out last week
under a four-year lawsuit, and
they said no one that we've looked at
over millions who had natural
immunity has ever transmitted the
virus, but everyone that takes the vaccine
can at the same level.
I don't buy that. I think people just haven't reported whether or not they transmitted the virus, but everyone that takes the vaccine can at the same level. I don't buy that. I think people just haven't
reported whether or not they transmitted the virus.
It's not as simple. It's like you have to
somehow or another, they have to
quantify that you had the virus
and then gave it to somebody else.
I'm just going off what they said.
I know, I know.
Someone who gets,
this is exactly what they say, if you get the vaccine,
I think it's an order of magnitude less likely to get sick, and it's less severe.
If you do get sick, you're equally likely to transfer the virus to someone else.
Fauci just came out and said that's not true anymore.
I have the freaking clip.
Right, right.
After a while, you're still going to get sick.
I've had three friends now be hospitalized that were vaccinated.
Hospitalized with COVID.
The elephant in the room, listen. The the elephant in the room look at the border
okay why is it if the federal government is so concerned with covid spreading in the united
states of america why is it that americans have to go on lockdown why is it that americans have
to receive these mandatory jab mandates but there are millions of people since Biden has taken office that have flooded over the United States southern border.
Not a single vaccine mandate has been issued to these people that are not even Americans.
You want to know what's pissing Americans off right now, whether left or right, is that there are people that are coming from different countries freely over the southern border without any jab mandates, but Americans are losing their lives. First responders, medical examiners, people that are professionals,
people that have dedicated their lives, that are experts,
that are now being put out on the street.
They're Americans, and that is what's bothering people right now.
The document just came out. I've got to say this.
The document just came out.
The Minnesota governor said inflate COVID numbers to keep the shutdown going.
This is what really, really annoys me about all this.
Drew just made a massive political point.
And everybody keeps going back into the argument about
we should all sit under the mandates but discuss the science
when no one here knows what the fuck they're talking about.
What I do know is that a million plus people did cross the border
with not a single mandate, but they are firing nurses.
And then people argue natural immunity, and they argue big.
And I'm like, I don't care about any of that.
You are not going to mandate a public policy on the people
and then ban people over.
I agree. Drew, go ahead.
No, no, no, this is the point.
For sure, it's a power move.
But why is it 100% power move?
The governor said, I want a lockdown for power.
He admits it's all a fraud.
It's smoking gun.
No, listen, this is why I am so hell-bent on
talk to your doctor. We're not
going to discuss... Yeah, why is the Minnesota
governor telling people to...
Stop doing that, dude. You are driving us
back into an argument that
takes us away from the fact that they are
mandating a medical procedure. I don't
care if it's an x-ray. I don't care if
it's a physical. I don't care if they want to feel my toes.
We shouldn't be sitting here going like, well, this scientist said this, and they were talking about numbers.
No.
A million people crossed the southern border with no mandate.
Firefighters, police, nurses fired from their jobs.
And all anyone keeps doing is keep saying, let's have a conversation about efficacy.
No, I agree.
You're right.
Efficacy isn't relevant.
You talk to your doctor.
You figure out what makes sense for you.
And I'll tell you this. I don't think anybody disagrees with you. Your mandates are meaningless. Yeah, it's two different arguments. I agree with your argument. Nobody disagacy is irrelevant. You talk to your doctor, you figure out what makes sense for you, and I'll tell you this.
Your mandates are meaningless.
It's two different arguments. I agree with your argument.
I'm saying the governor of Minnesota...
Most people don't know.
Joe's right. Most people don't know.
Let's talk more about that.
The Minnesota governor admits the lockdown was for political control.
He got caught in emails. Sorry.
How many people know that people are literally
not just being allowed across
the border but actually like allowed to enter into the country yeah we've got to do that to
fly on airplanes we gotta have tests but if no no if you're coming legally if you're coming legally
you have to have the covid vaccine now and again we understand this was never about your health
this was always about your subjugation you look at what happened where they mandate this medical
procedure where they have the most strictest vaccine passports in England, in Israel, in Singapore.
You see the highest rises in cases.
Gibraltar, one of the most vaccinated places in the world.
Singapore just canceled Christmas because they had a surge in COVID cases.
Vermont has the highest cases in America.
And it's the highest vaccine.
Exactly.
It's all Bernie Sanders' fault.
That's what I heard.
It is.
We've talked about this, Alex, right? They they want a controllable class they want a two-tier
system they want the elites at the top and they want the people at the bottom that they could
control that are not going to say anything that are not going to protest that are not going to
fuss about it because they want people come millions of people they want people in this
country that are illiterate to the united states constitution so that they don't protest or fuss about it.
It's not left or right, Democrat or Republican.
They just want people that they could control.
And what's happening at the southern border is literally proving that right now as I speak.
It's not stopping.
It's not stopping.
This is why I tell people.
It doesn't matter.
It's not left or right.
It's not Republican or Democrat.
This is why you can't have
this many people on a fucking podcast.
Everybody just starts yelling.
Let me correct what Sean Hannity just had to say.
Everybody's saving lives.
Americans don't care about the Constitution.
This is just boomer bull crap that people spout
on Fox News.
So you think the United States Constitution is boomer bull crap?
Yes, I do.
100%.
If you looked at what happened
with the lockdowns,
they did not have to use
a lot of force.
The overwhelming majority
of people
were more than happy
to have their freedoms
taken away
for the illusion of safety.
The average man
does not want to be free.
He merely wants to be safe.
And the Constitution...
His name is Keith Oberman.
You can say it by name.
No one's going to know that.
Joe, no one's going to know that reference.
And the Constitution has been a dead letter from the George Washington administration.
They were locking people up for criticizing the government in the 1790s.
It's a complete joke.
ResetWars.com.
And they didn't know any better.
They didn't have credit.
There are minefields before us where they pull you in their direction.
I've talked about how the conservatives, there's no real opposition to the left other than like the Democrats will come out and say, we want to ban assault rifles.
And the Republicans will say no.
But where is the Republican leadership?
This is actually something you told me.
Where is the Republican leadership to come out and say, we want to abolish gun laws? Everything is always
the establishment left is pulling us in this
direction, and the right is just saying, slow down
there. What's the quote? Say the quote. What quote?
Conservatism is progressivism driving the speed limit.
Oh, there you go. So this is why
we had a conversation a while ago about
science and Pfizer
and all these pills and stuff, and I was like, yo,
are we actually just arguing the degree to which
we are going to live under the mandate?
I agree, but what about the exodus
of the people from mainstream media?
Joe, everything's collapsing.
Your show is the epicenter
of everybody leaving the establishment
and going to independent.
How does dinosaur media finally die?
Because if Joe Rogan's the meteorite
that hit the planet and kills the dinosaurs...
It doesn't have to die.
AM radio's still around, too.
Well, let's just say...
Let's keep it alive.
Let's keep it alive barely.
That's what you want. You don't want your enemy to die.
You want you to keep your foot on its chest.
Sounds like a little zombie.
You know how it's going to lose its efficacy
when CNN and Fox and MSNBC are looked at
exactly like you look at Marlboro or Lucky Strikes.
When the average American regards
a corporate journalist exactly as they
regard a tobacco executive. You know they're selling
your product. You know that product's deadly.
Let them sell it. People want to buy it, but
that's all it is. Lucky Strikes gives you a nice head rush.
Well, so does watching these shows
because you hate the liberals. You hate the conservatives.
Don't filter Lucky Strikes.
You get to go to Flavor Country for a little bit.
Now, how much support...
We should ask ourselves, how much support
does the corporate media have, and how much of it
is an illusion? They don't anymore.
Did you see the ratings?
The average CNN show has 100,000
viewers? Isn't that crazy?
Yeah, but we know that. How many of them are actually
into it? How many of them just flip into the
channels? If Joe Rogan farts, he gets
5 million views. But if you flip into the channels, are you really into it? Is it something you are just flipping through the channels? If Joe Rogan farts, he gets 5 million views. But if you're flipping through
the channels, are you really into it?
Is it something you're looking forward to?
How many people are actually looking forward to watching
any of those? No, you're like, look at Brian Stelter. He's a
sack of filth. He's a fake fraud.
What the fuck are you saying?
They seek the personalities.
I love him. I actually have a sexual desire for Brian Stelter.
I'm still on this. I think the corporate media
is now Alphabet, Google, Facebook,
Meta. And how do we
face this in the next 20 years?
If they're smart, what they would do is go back
to straight news. Straight, objective,
just have all the ads you want.
A plane crash. Have all the ads you want.
But have objective,
completely
unbiased news. If they did that,
I think it would turn it around.
If we knew that everyone
that was reading all the news,
if we get to a point
through all these independent
social media applications
and the distribution of information
when we know what they're saying
is verified,
we know it's true.
So they have to tell the truth.
If they just told the truth
and give you a synopsis
of what's happening in the world,
they would actually make more money.
And they would have less polarization.
Deepfakes concern me.
That's not possible, Joe.
That's a real problem.
It's not possible because at the very least they're going to have a bias in terms of what they cover and what they don't.
Maybe.
Or maybe they just get together with a panel that decides what is the most important in terms of national security,
the economy, all the different things about climate.
What are the issues that are really, that we know are real,
that we can cover in an unbiased way?
If someone came along and did that, I guarantee you,
you would get enough of people from both sides.
Once it's been clearly established that it's actually unbiased news,
I think they would be massively commercially successful.
And that is the irony.
And they do it by showing all sides.
Like, here's this person, that person.
Let's take a look at breaking points with Crystal and Cigar.
Sager.
Sager.
Perfect example.
But no, they're getting smeared as alt-right and far-right now.
By who?
Bunch of pussies.
Who wants to listen?
Yeah, Jim, why are you worried about them?
Stop, stop, stop.
But their audience keeps growing.
I'm not even talking over it.
That's true, but if you're...
You're on huge.
There's an issue with this idea of the left populist and the right populist can come challenge the elites.
Crystal and Cigar were...
Sager!
Sager!
You son of a bitch!
My friend, you piece of shit!
Say his name one more time.
Sager!
Sager!
Sager!
Sager!
Braveheart.
So we did a segment on the show.
Young Turks said that Joe Rogan's basically Alex Jones or Tucker Carlson at this point.
And people responded saying, so is Crystal and Sager.
Why are we listening to Sink Turd?
It's not about why are we.
It's about why does he have millions of subscribers and get 30 million views.
Why are you distracting me when I have to leave?
You keep going down these dark alleys.
Oh, dude, it's just getting dark.
ResetWars.com.
What do you mean?
Like a place you can't bring in more people?
I want to talk about Klaus Schwab.
Here we go.
Hey, Joe's got to go.
Let me make a point.
Let's get a final statement from the great Joe Rogan.
I love the idea that we can bring everyone together,
but some people are just diametrically opposed to what we believe in.
After a while, you watch that guy talk, and you're like, these are so silly.
All right, let me get a question in there, Joe, before he's got to go.
These are silly people.
Let me get a question.
But hold on.
There's so many fucking silly people.
You know, like, you don't have to take into consideration their statements about every fucking thing that happens with every person.
You realize they're silly.
You know they're silly.
That's why you brought them up.
Ignore them.
No, no, no.
I didn't bring them up because he's silly.
I brought them up because he gets tens of millions of views.
Yes, he does.
He does.
He does not.
If you look at all the views, how many individual unique people are there?
It's not tens of millions.
No, no, no.
I'm not talking about unique.
I'm just saying.
But it's the same fucking people.
It's like tens of millions of people.
They put out a lot of content.
They have 100,000.
Okay, Joe's got to go.
Can I ask one question?
Can I ask one question?
But it doesn't matter if you agree with them or disagree with them.
If you don't agree with them, you don't have to keep bringing them up over and over
and over again. Just fucking ignore them.
They're only as relevant as we make them.
That's just one question.
Because I've been big in the media for 20-something years.
You've been huge forever.
That's why they cut your nose.
This is a real question, son of a bitch.
I know you don't want to sound rockstar
Or arrogant
Fuck him
He's a horrible person
Yeah, fuck you
It's fake
Bring it, bring it
Come on
Don't hurt me
I'm a gorilla
They cut your fucking nose
Joe, let me ask this question
Okay, Boomer
We all saw your meme
Boomer
Hey, Joe
I love this I'm generation X He's giving you attention here Joe, seriously Answer the question What is it like Okay, Boomer, we all saw your meme. Hey, Joe.
He's giving you attention here.
Joe, seriously, answer the question.
What is it like to not just be probably the most famous person other than a president right now in the world,
but to have done it independently on your own?
That's a major sea change.
I celebrate that.
I'm blessed to know you.
You're a great guy.
What is it like to be at the epicenter of the Zeitgeist?
If I thought about that, I'd be fucked. Well, it's a real question. What is it like to be at the epicenter of the Zeitgeist?
I don't think about that.
If I thought about that, I'd be fucked.
Well, it's a real question.
Tell me.
I don't know.
That's my answer.
Black helicopters.
Okay, but it seems like as you've gotten right in the middle of the Zeitgeist,
you've gotten more politically involved.
Not because you wanted to, but you felt like you needed to.
Well, it's not that I got in the middle of the Zeitgeist.
This pandemic exposed the fragility of our society.
That so many people are willing to give up their freedom for this bizarre fake security that doesn't exist.
You're talking about the most unsecure thing ever.
A pandemic virus that's going through people and then a solution, a medical solution that doesn't entirely work. And everybody's forcing you to get involved and take this
and ignore all risks because they did
and they want you to be on their side.
It's madness.
And as soon as you see that kind of madness,
if you don't say something, then you fall into tyranny.
And that's what the fuck is happening.
And whether or not people realize what they're doing,
most of the people that are doing it are cowards. Because if you stand up
and you say, hey, I don't think you should vaccinate children,
people are like,
they start freaking out.
Donald Sutherland in fucking Invasion of the
Bodies.
That's what it is.
It's like everybody's
scared. You can't even have the conversation.
You can't pull when you're cussed.
Here's the thing about you, and here's the thing about me.
When someone is unvaccinated and they survive COVID pretty fucking quick,
they go, wait a minute, I didn't know that was available.
And you go, well, how did – you know, when I made a video like three days
after I had COVID, I'm like, I feel pretty good.
It's like, why?
And then two days later, I put up this fucking – this test.
It's like Kim said.
They were mad he survived.
They were mad I survived, too.
But it's because they took the chance, and they got vaccinated.
And they feel like you should have done that, too, because they realize there's a certain amount of risk involved.
And they got through it.
They're like, you fucking do it.
It's like I jumped into the water from the cliff.
You jump.
Jump, pitch.
I jump.
You jump.
What about Aaron Rodgers, who I know you helped out as well?
I mean, they're demonizing him,
calling him a white supremacist on ESPN.
I'm flipping through the channels.
I swear to God, I'm flipping through
it was a sports show
and I'm flipping through cable.
What's his name? They call him Right Wing.
Where's Skip Bayless?
That other football guy. Skip Bayless
is on the big black guy
and all I know is they go, he's a white nationalist.
Oh, that guy's not a white nationalist.
But this is like people say things to get a lot of attention, and they say things as maybe they even mean it.
Here's the thing with Aaron Rodgers.
That guy, in any other time in history, if a friend calls you up, he goes, hey, man, you had the flu.
What did you do?
I say, oh, I took a Z-Pak.
I took a this.
I took a that.
I was better in a couple days.
I got a vitamin infusion.
That's really big.
That helped me a lot.
And they go, okay, I'm going to try that.
And they do it.
They get better.
And they go, thanks.
Everybody's happy.
Like, oh, I would like to do what Aaron Rodgers did if I get sick
because he was better pretty quick.
Oh, Joe Rogan did that.
Oh, I should do what they did because I'll get better pretty quick.
I'm not saying don't get vaccinated.
I'm saying if you do get sick, this is what I did and this is how I got better.
All the decisions you make outside of that are on your own.
I'm just telling you what I did.
You mean Pfizer lets us hear from you?
It doesn't have anything to do with Pfizer.
It's just human beings.
The influence that Pfizer has is minimal in
comparison to the influence we have on internet.
That's what the real problem is.
When people do things and they make a choice,
they want everybody else to make a decision.
You got better in two days. Tim got better in a couple days.
It worked, right?
I was taking ivermectin.
I know you were really bad.
Ian was also really bad.
The reason I called is because I was like,
I talked to a doctor.
They said, look, it's a virus.
Sleep it off.
But here's the thing.
It's monoclonal antibodies are the big thing.
When I said that I took ivermectin,
I said I took it in a laundry list of other things that I took.
And I didn't say that first.
I said monoclonal antibodies.
I said Z-Pak.
I said ivermectin.
I said all these things.
But all they focused on was Ivermectin.
But Joe, the thing I never...
The monoclonal antibodies are super effective.
It's been proven so.
And they're authorized for emergencies.
Yes.
It's a totally authorized...
And the company's been around since 1988.
They're not giving liability protection.
That's why I trust them.
Oh, look at that.
But Alex, I also took Ivermectin when I was in college.
Joe's got to go.
Let me ask you one question, Joe.
Okay.
I mean, one question. No one knows. You when I was in college. Joe's got to go. Let me ask you one question, Joe. Okay. I mean, one question.
No one knows.
You got better in two days.
You got better in three.
I got better in like a day with this stuff.
Aaron Rodgers, how fast did he get better?
He's never even sick.
He's playing soon.
He played.
He just won on Sunday.
He played.
So he never even got sick with the protocol.
No, he was sick before that.
He wasn't feeling good.
He asked me what I did.
I told him.
I connected him with some people.
And he, at his doctor, got him all the proper medications that he wasn't feeling good he asked me what i did i told him i connected him with some people and he had his doctor got him all the proper medications that he needed monoclonal antibodies and all the other stuff and he got better fairly quickly after his butt also he's a fucking super
athlete all right we're not talking about like your 85 year old grandmother yeah we're talking
about a legit nfl quarterback fucking super athlete. So comparing him to the average normal Joe walking on the street is crazy.
He's literally the elite of the elite in terms of professional athletes.
I love you.
I love you too, bitch.
Joe's got a job.
So he's bouncing out.
Good job.
Thanks for coming by.
Thank you.
That was some freaking good stuff.
See you tomorrow, dude.
I'm going to go take a mess on me back.
Tell the truth.
And Joe, keep in mind
Bye
Got a big guest tomorrow
Joe, tomorrow, the verdict might come in
Oh, it's chaos
It's gonna be chaos
Yeah, I know, it's gonna be crazy
That's why we told Drew to stick around
We were like, Drew, you gotta stick around
Cause if not everyone's talking
Did you say he was taking selfies while Joe was talking?
Lydia, you're supposed to be switching.
You're supposed to be switching the screen.
Do your job, woman.
Now, Blair, now's your chance. Talk.
I felt like I was just high or something.
Talk about some more felonies, Blair.
Oh my god.
I just went into a legit vortex.
That was crazy.
Oh, man. So right now, for those that are watching, a good portion of That was crazy. Oh, man.
So right now, for those that are watching, a good portion of the crew,
everyone's saying goodbye.
They're peacing out.
Joe actually has a show.
He's playing it.
And that's why, you know, when everyone was like, hey,
if we're going to have all these people, get Joe.
And he's got a show.
He's not going to be.
But Joe was like, dude, I'm going to do it.
And he was here.
I was like, he's not taking it from anybody.
He's telling everybody to shut up.
He's a team player. He let everyone
know what they needed to know. And the show's
not over, guys. Alex is coming back.
Oh, Alex is coming back.
I'm sorry, Blair.
I'm sorry.
Ian's going to come on
in. So the show, again, this is the
part two of the show. And I think we're going to
go for another hour.
Can we get me another bandage? I want to see if I'm still bleeding.
Yeah, I'll grab you something.
I need a water.
As Alex said, you were a ritual sacrifice today, Matt.
Water, water.
Alex is coming back, and basically only
Joe has to peace out because he's got his show to do.
And this is when we start talking about psilocybin.
Wow!
Who likes psilocybin?
Raise your hand.
I'm kind of...
I thought you said suicide.
No, no, no.
No, I like...
Thank you, sir.
I like talking about the things that Michael talks about, you know, like police, constitution,
freedom, liberty.
That's my jam.
And I don't know if you saw that rant I did where they got really mad at me on Twitter.
Of course I saw it.
It was my porn.
My sheets are ruined
it's just people were saying it was because you were dewormed that it changed you i know it's
funny but like it's not the first rant i've ever had there's a video from our old studio where i'm
like they went to this dude's house in wisconsin and were protesting in front of his house they
had set these same protesters set fire to a house before and when the guy brandished a shotgun the police came and arrested him from his own house and i was like these people will come to
your home they will protest you these these activists obviously and the police will kick
in your door and they will bash your teeth in and then they're like but but the reason the left got
mad it was a reaction to the right the right was like look at this epic rant from temple he's like
saying that the law federal law enforcement went for james o'keefe i was surprised
you know what's really funny about this is when when that with that rant the left came out angry
at me and i'm like i was literally saying i literally abolished the police i was like abolish
the police like the feds kicked in james o'keefe stores his federal law enforcement they leaked his
his privileged legal communications this is a violation of every core tenant this country is supposed to believe in
your privileged access to legal assistance and then the left was like haha he's bad that's
fascism i'm like i thought i was agreeing with you i want to ask drew a question mr constitution
uh given what you saw in kenosha what is your perspective on the police uh my perspective is
that the police are
going to have to start making some serious decisions soon, because if they're not going to
side with their constitutional oaths, they are literally betraying the American people. So I
think when police are getting into that type of territory, they're going to start enforcing a
police state. So I think right now where we are with the advent of Marxism, cultural Marxism
becoming mainstream, I think the excuse when police come out the advent of Marxism, cultural Marxism becoming mainstream,
I think the excuse when police come out and say, I'm just doing my job, is what the Nazis said.
So I think right now that is a crime against humanity.
And I think when police aren't having the will to say, you know what, I'm not going to enforce this.
I'm going to continue to do my job.
I think they're going to have to make that decision.
But if they do do that, if they decide not to and pull out of it, I think that that's something they need to consider before
they become police officers. Because if you're going to take a job like that, you're going to
have to be prepared to make a decision whether I'm going to obey unconstitutional or illegal edicts
or mandates, or I am going to resign. I just got one quick question. Given that all gun laws are
unconstitutional, violate the Second Amendment,
what do you think of police officers that arrest
people who have guns that might
be in violation of the Second Amendment who are otherwise peaceful people?
Repeat it one more time.
Police who enforce gun laws, which are all
unconstitutional against peaceful citizens. What do you
think of those police? And speak more into the mic. Your
audio is low-low. Is my audio low? Yeah.
Yeah.
I just think that police i think the biggest
issue right now with police officers and i've talked to many of them i've had conversations
with them i think a lot of them are really like illiterate to the law itself not all of them but
every time you talk to one of them like they're really not sure how they're enforcing the law
correctly like they're not even aware of some of the laws themselves you're just completely ignoring
my question yeah uh gun laws are all unconstitutional.
What do you think of police officers who enforce gun laws against peaceful citizens?
I think the Second Amendment is for all Americans.
Right.
So what do you think, again, for the third time,
what do you think of police officers who enforce gun laws against peaceful citizens?
I think that's just something they're going to have to decide to do,
whether they're going to do it or not.
Well, what do you think of them?
That's what I think.
That they're just going to have to, you're just going to shrug your shoulders? They're just going to have to decide to do whether they're going to do it or not. Well, what do you think of them? That's what I think. That they're just going to have to, you're just going to shrug your shoulders?
They're just going to have to make a decision.
So if a cop arrests someone who has a handgun illegally, who's not hurting anybody,
or has some kind of red flag thing, what do you think of that police officer who puts that person in jail?
Yeah, I don't think that's a good thing.
But what do you think of that individual?
The individual?
The individual police officer, yeah.
That's what I just said, yeah.
They're evil.
Yeah, but you said that's not a good thing. You know, me burning a cake
is not a good thing as well.
The human being,
his name is Officer John Smith.
Officer John Smith.
Hold on, let me phrase
the question. There was a woman,
I tell this story all the time, who was from
Pennsylvania with a legal gun
and drove into New Jersey.
Right.
And we'll give the cop a name, Officer John Smith.
Pulled her over, and he said, you know, your taillight's out or whatever.
And he said, do you have a weapon on you?
He said, yes, I do.
And he says, oh, okay.
She politely informed him, but in New Jersey, you can't have it.
So he took her out, he cuffed her, and they tried putting her in prison for four years.
How do you feel about John Smith?
I mean, I would have to really take a look at the entire situation.
So another big problem is that a lot of the decent cops are leaving because of the Vax.
There's no decent cops.
Well, I was just going to make a correction and say Michael probably thinks there are none.
But good-meaning cops, a lot of them are leaving because of the Vax.
Right, you're right.
And I disagree with Michael on that.
I think there are decent cops.
But I understand your point
about the institution as a whole.
But I think there are,
I've met cops who have been,
they've actually sought to like
stop violent criminals
and rapists and murderers.
No question.
And I've seen these cops be like,
I'm not going to stop some kid
for, you know, this, that, or otherwise.
I will also correct you.
You said all gun laws
are unconstitutional.
What if the gun law was
that you had to have a gun?
That actually was the case
in America in the colonial period.
If you look it up, I have an article in
The Observer that says must pack heat
arguing for using
Obamacare as a mechanism to mandate
gun ownership.
Criminals aren't going to follow the laws anyways.
We're talking about
what... Michael had said
all gun laws are unconstitutional. My question is,
what if a gun law mandated you do own a gun?
That's unconstitutional.
It is unconstitutional? It's not unconstitutional.
Switzerland makes you do it.
That's a form of indentured servitude.
Owning a gun is indentured servitude?
No, if you make somebody own a gun,
that's indentured servitude.
Who are you in servitude to? Who's making me own a gun? Iured servitude? No, if you make somebody own a gun, that's indentured servitude. Who are you in servitude to who?
Who's making me own a gun?
I thought you were an anarchist.
I am an anarchist.
The point being, if I disagree with you about classifying something as indentured servitude...
If they made you join an anarchist collective to have a gun and you willfully joined it as part of a membership...
This has nothing to do with anarchism.
Explain to me how mandating gun ownership or mandating health insurance is indentured servitude.
I mean, now you're for forced inoculations?
You didn't answer my question.
I'm not for forced insurance.
And I'm not for forced gun ownership.
I'm mad at you, Michael.
I'm just telling you.
I just don't understand.
Maybe this is my autism speaking.
Can you explain to me how mandating someone owning a product
is indentured servitude as opposed to unlawful?
All I know is under my common sense freedom and under what I want, I don't have to own a gun.
Okay, all right.
Let's not go in circles.
Let's not go in circles.
I think he was just using the phrase incorrectly.
Oh, okay.
I think the point is like I remember when I think it was Illinois mandated seatbelts.
I don't know when they exactly mandated seatbelts, but I remember having a conversation about,
do you have the right to not wear a seatbelt?
Well, not anymore, you don't.
And then I had a conversation from there about how you're forced.
I remember when Obamacare was coming through and people were like, what about auto insurance?
The government makes you buy auto insurance.
No one cares about that.
And I was like, actually, I kind of do.
I, you know, i like i i of course
would always want to carry insurance but that's on a state level as well the idea the government
would mandate you buy a private product and and then regulate that product to like guarantee and
now they use it as an example oh you got to buy insurance you got to wear a seatbelt so you got
to take a shot i say i'm more of an anarchist than malice, I guess. Oh, sweetheart. Come sit on my lap right there.
You and Blair right there.
Listen, you're no Sandy Claus.
I'm not sitting on that lap.
So we're playing who can anarchist out the anarchists?
My book's right behind you.
Yeah, it's right here.
Anarchisthandbook.com.
I watch your show.
I watch Tim's.
I know you're intellectual.
I know you're actually genuinely smart.
I respect you.
I'm just saying I agree with anarchist
precepts, but informing
that and injecting that into the real world
does not work. I disagree.
Until it's scalable. Until it's been proven.
Anarchism is in a location.
It's a relationship. So this show right now is an
example of anarchism working.
There's a lot more anarchism than we know.
Centralization is when we have government, when we have
fat cat bureaucrat mafiosos coming in and saying, I want a cut of that.
It's centralization.
Decentralization is anarchy in my opinion.
And I'm for decentralization.
Exactly.
So you're for anarchy.
And I'm for anarchy because that's the true definition of it with no one intervening, no one forcing you to do something.
That's the basic core concept philosophies of anarchy, which should be respected and talked about properly.
That's why I had to correct Joe Rogan when he said this was anarchy.
No, it wasn't.
It was state-sponsored terrorism.
Alex knows about that.
Give me 30 seconds.
I'll shut up for 10 minutes.
I promise.
I don't believe that.
That is a lie.
You're an effing liar.
That is not true.
You're an effing liar.
30 seconds.
I would like to give everybody a chance.
Every line except for that just exploded.
Get a timer right now.
Just mute his mic.
Just mute his mic for 10 minutes.
No.
No, no, no. Get your timer ready. I want you to hear this. Just mute his mic. Literally, just mute his mic for 10 minutes. No. No, no, no.
Get your timer ready.
I want you to hear this.
Ready? Shut up.
I actually love everybody in this room.
I know you all, and I really appreciate it.
From the producer to everybody.
And this has just been historic, and Joe is so amazing, and all you guys.
And Tim, thank you for having me here.
You're right.
It is real anarchy, and it's beautiful, beautiful and I love you all and I appreciate being here
my favorite thing about all of this was I was like
we end up
the show started with us having Blair to come on
and then Alex was like
then you all hijacked me
but the best part was the very end when everyone's like
have you asked Joe and I'm like he's busy
and then Joe's like yeah yeah I could probably
come in where are y'all at and I'm like we're in a trailer on the side
of the road and so he's like it yeah, yeah, I could probably come in. Where are y'all at? And I'm like, we're in a trailer on the side of the road.
Yeah, of course.
And so he's like.
It's a very nice trailer, though.
It's like, it is really, really great.
And I just think it's hilarious that, you know,
you said it, like a step down or something,
like the mighty have fallen.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe Rogan coming from his massive, amazing, new Austin studio to my trailer on the side of the road.
Joe's not elitist.
He loves you, Tim.
No, I know.
I'm just messing around.
You know, he always loved you, but after you destroyed
Twitter with him, he put you at the top tier.
You know what's funny, though? We had beef.
I didn't know that. Tell the story.
For dinner?
I knew you'd like that one.
It's not too complicated.
Back during
Occupy era, somebody tweeted at Joe
when his podcast wasn't as big. They were like, you gotta have Tim Pool on the show. And then someone back in like during Occupy era, somebody tweeted at Joe when his podcast wasn't as big.
They were like, you got to have Tim Pool on the show.
And then he tweeted me like, yeah, for sure, man.
Why don't you come and hang out?
And I said, cool.
So, you know, I was young and bright eyed and naive.
And I was kind of like, this is Joe Rogan.
This is back in 2011, mind you.
So not the biggest show in the world.
You wouldn't come on my show.
But, well, I didn't know who you were.
He values his time, Alex.
I remember telling Luke, hey, get me, get me, get me get me tim pool well so check it out check it
out so i flew to la and once i landed he messaged me like bro i'm really sorry to do this to you i
can't have you on the show something came up and i went i just flew out to california and so i made
the best of it there's some protests i covered a year later same thing happened somebody tweets
at joe like how come you never had tim pool on your show and that's 2012 and he was like yo we tried to make it happen
it didn't happen tim what do you say come on the show and i was like let's do it this time i was
like i want to i want to make sure we confirm this like because he gave me the details before i'm like
give me the details give me the time give me everything and he does and so i get on a plane
i paid for it myself because i'm young and naive and i fly to california and then he says bro
i'm so sorry to do this to you i can't have you on oh my god something's come up and i was just
like all right now i'm really mad and i was like dude are you kidding me it's like a year later
you did the same thing and i thought to myself i was like look i'm obviously mad about it but joe
doesn't owe me any favors me going on his show would be really great for me so i was just like
that's the story and then what
ended up happening i was like i i'm just not gonna i'm not gonna be mad about it because he doesn't
owe me anything and i'm just gonna i'm gonna focus on my thing i'm not gonna beg him i'm not gonna
ask him and i just went about my business and then a couple years later joseph messaged me and he was
like bro i just want to let you know like i am really sorry about you know having canceled on
you like that now it's beautiful i don't want there to be any beef or anything and i was like
no dude there's no there's no salt there's no beef like it. And now it's beautiful. I didn't want there to be any beef or anything. And I was like, no, dude, there's no salt.
There's no beef.
It was just like it happened twice in the span of years.
But let me tell you about Joe in the old days.
He was doing so much comedy almost every day in his other jobs.
We were going to do his podcast forever, and he would cancel it too.
He just used to like the podcast was a side thing.
And then starting about six years ago, he made it the main thing,
and that's what happened.
I don't feel as bad now because there was two times where Joe invited me on
and it didn't happen.
I didn't fly out.
And then I just checked my phone before I went on.
I have a missed DM from him from two weeks ago asking me to come on.
I'm like, why am I?
Now it's my fault.
Yeah, he knew who you were.
He's like, oh, hi, Blair.
And I was like, well, why aren't you on the show?
Now here's the crazy story.
Joe's a sweetheart, though, man. here's the crazy story. Here's the crazy
story about... You should have seen us taking acid in Vegas.
You want to hear the Twitter story? Can we hear about
that story? I would love that.
You guys want to hear the Twitter story?
I want to hear the acid story for the Twitter story.
The acid story is more important than the Twitter
story. I'll tell you a Joe Rogan story.
Sorry, go ahead. You want to hear it later? I'll tell you later.
No, no, no, no, no. I would love
to hear it now. Can we? Is it something where, no, no. I would love to hear it now.
Can we?
Is it something where you're like,
maybe I shouldn't have brought that up because it's a story I probably shouldn't tell?
Or are you going to announce it? The big question is, which story should it be?
The wild one. The crazy one.
You seen the movie
The Hangover?
This happened a few times. I don't remember
with me, Joe, and Joey Diaz.
I just remember
actually, you get Joe on next time and he'll tell you. happened before a few times i don't remember with me joe and joey diaz i just remember like
actually you get joe on next time he'll tell you but i mean i remember like two days later because
i was not a big you know two days later like not knowing where we'd been and like in vegas with him
because he'd like if you i went out and saw some of the fights in vegas other places with joey
he was a great guy and so i remember like okay we're at ESPN and we're on air and this is going on.
I'm in a control room and Joe is whatever.
And like two days later, I'm like, what happened?
He was like, I'll see you later.
I'll get on a plane.
So it was pretty wild, man, pretty wild.
But Joe's not like that now.
But he's definitely done some partying.
I mean, let me tell you, I've sat there with Joe.
Because now we go out, he might drink like two beers.
And he's in great shape, everything. But I remember like two days up with him, and he wasn't on
any type of amphetamines, it was all just Joe's energy, and we're like drinking like
20 shots at like 4 a.m. up for two days, and like taking edibles and all those things,
I'm like, this dude's like a thoroughbred, I mean a thoroughbred, man.
That's why he takes the horse paste.
Yeah, that's why he takes the horse paste. Yeah, that's why he takes the horse paste.
So, no, but Joey Diaz once, like, we're sitting there, Joey's like,
eat these, eat these edibles.
And Joe's like, ha, ha, we just took acid.
And I don't remember two days.
It was a huge dough.
I don't remember, actually.
Any revelations, any reality-shattering moments,
any kind of, like, clarity in your life through the experience?
Part of it was fun, except I remember, and this is to Joe's credit,
this was like 15 years ago,
17 years ago.
We're in Vegas. Were there two days
before the fight, like a day after the fight? So there were
like four days. So two days
before, one day of the fight, day after.
And I remember, I'm like, why don't you take the
elevator to your limo?
He loved his fans so much
that I remember, like,
hallucinating on acid while Joe signed
thousands of autographs.
Because he's trying to go
through the casino
once they start piling up.
And I remember just, like,
day, like,
hallucinating
for, like, a day
of him signing autographs.
Like, like, like,
it's like,
it's crazy.
You know,
there's, like,
some cool story,
like, Naked Chicks,
but it's not.
It's Joe taking... Yeah, but that's not cool. That's not the cool stuff. The cool stuff is the deeper stuff. It's crazy. There's some cool story like naked chicks. It's not.
That's not the cool stuff.
It's Joe taking photos,
selfies with people,
and signing autographs. Being selfless.
I asked Joe.
I don't know if he gave us
a robust answer.
From the time I went on
and we talked with Twitter,
to where he is now, how his view has changed. I think it's fair to say, you can see in Joe a big bit. From the time I went on and we talked with Twitter, even before that, to where he is now, how his view has changed,
I think it's fair to say, you can see
in Joe a big change.
So that first interview he did with Jack Dorsey
was back in 2018, I guess. He was just
like, let Jack say his thing
and say whatever he wanted. And then he got
heavily thumbs down for it. We do our
show. Here we are today, and he's
saying they're censoring. It's coming from the
left, and that's definitive. He's seen it. I think there's two things here we are today, and he's saying they're censoring, it's coming from the left, and that's definitive, he's seen it.
I think there's two things here. For one,
Joe really started to understand
and see what was going on as things got worse,
but it's also that things are getting worse.
I want to make sure I preface that by
saying, freedom, loving
individuals, liberty-minded individuals are
winning many battles across the board, but
in the censorship stuff, as this
becomes the new corporate
press it is getting worse and i mean i think the reality is we're not long for this world you know
everyone's like you know i see the comments like wow tim you really pulled this this thing together
and i'm like yeah but there will come a time the cliffs are eroding and over time they are
homogenizing what youtube is and they want it to be that mainstream narrative.
Jimi Hendrix.
Eventually, the sand dumps
to the sea. But let me just say
this one thing, because I don't bullshit
when it comes to things like this.
Tim was a turning point
for Joe, and I'm not going to get into our private phone calls
and things, because Joe wanted to believe
in the system and wanted to believe there were good guys and bad guys.
And when he, remember him, I'm not going to tell a little story, but he called up and
he goes, you see what happened to Tim Poulton?
I said, yeah, I heard about it.
Thank you.
I'm a retangularist.
Well, it's true.
Joe already had all that understanding, but as soon as, so it's true, Tim, that you're
like the vampire that bit Joe Rogan.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm not just kissing your ass.
That was the point. I told you your ass. That was the point.
I told you that privately.
That was the point.
But, Tim, that Jack Dorsey moment was a corner shed moment that shattered the reality of a lot of people's understanding of how things work online.
And you were there.
You didn't fall for their traps.
You went around their traps.
That was like Toto.
Slapped them upside their head.
And then they didn't know what they were doing.
So again, another thing.
Toto and the curtain.
Yeah, and something else to add here.
You're saying we're not long for this world.
We're long for a very long time.
They can't pull the rug, because if they do, they lose everything.
They're slowly pulling the rug.
They hit Alex, but Alex is still here.
Alex is still producing his videos.
Alex is getting a crap ton of viewership.
We'll survive no matter what.
We've got TimCast.com
where you should sign up and become a member for our
special members only segments because
I realized this a long time ago
but didn't really
have the skills, the experience
but the beginning of this year I was like
if we don't have our own
website, we could get plucked
right out and thrown in the trash.
Exactly.
Not anymore.
But there's also one factor you guys both missed,
which is there's a big difference when you watch the news
and you see that they're lying about you personally.
If Joe had his podcast, him bro-ing out,
talking to fighters, talking to comedians, just hanging out,
you turn the news,
and it's something that you have personal knowledge about, and you see people you've never met explicitly lying about you and lies that are easily verified to be lies.
That's when you realize, wait a minute, something is up and it's happened to you as well.
Obviously, you know, Tim, I rewatched I rewatched that the other day recently, you know, and what I found interesting was how the point you made, how they kept saying we do this this to protect people because if there's a threat to somebody's life
through social media,
we take action on it, right?
And the reason why I thought that was interesting
is because even as of recently,
after I testified in the trial,
I started getting death threats on Instagram,
on Twitter, all this stuff.
And what was crazy on Instagram was
I actually took a screenshot
of someone issuing me a death threat.
I posted it, and my account hit.
But this is the point I made.
If it was me.
What about Kelly Paul?
Ron Van Paul's wife always complains to Twitter because he gets like,
I'm glad the neighbor did this.
This should happen again.
She's like, Jack, do something.
And he's like, I don't care.
There are Twitter accounts called I'm Rand Paul's neighbor.
Wow.
So one of the points that I brought up to Jack and Vijay on that show was they said, you know, we're trying to protect people.
There's high suicide rates.
And I said, what about people with, like, body dysmorphia where they cut their hands off?
You know, these people exist.
Are you going to create special rules for for these groups i think the the fascinating thing about that moment and it comes up a lot i guess because for for me it was just a moment i
was there and i was having a typical argument i would normally have with anybody but i guess
a lot of people didn't realize this stuff they didn't realize um vajaya and jack didn't realize
when they were entering this they thought they were going to be getting your run-of-the-mill
conservative was going to be like why'd you ban mil Milo? Why'd you ban Alex? Instead of more
like philosophical and
like liberty-minded questions and like
fairness and
Yeah, they bled out. They bled out on
10 million viewers.
They bled out. It was that and then the Sanjay
Gupta thing I think woke a lot of people
up. The thing with Joe. Because it was one of the very
few, maybe even the only
instance where you have someone who's on CNN
every day lying, and you have someone actually
confronting them to their face,
and then you go back to watch CNN afterwards,
and they completely edit out that interaction.
They completely frame it as
him somehow convincing Joe Rogan
to be pro-vaccine. But the crazy thing about
the CNN thing was that Sanjay
Gupta goes on Joe's show,
and Joe is like, why would they lie? And Sanjay said they shouldn't have done that. And then Gupta goes on Joe's show and Joe is like,
why would they lie?
And Sanjay said
they shouldn't have done that.
And then Sanjay goes on Don Lemon
and Don Lemon says,
we didn't, it was the truth.
And Sanjay goes,
you're right, that's all true.
That is a duplicitous,
deceitful individual.
And now Gupta is a joke.
He's not a joke.
That's the thing.
He's interviewing
Sesame Street characters.
He's definitely a professional.
CNN on average has 80,000 viewers.
To be fair, we did like half an hour
about Sesame Street last night.
We talked about it, but he interviewed
Sesame Street characters on his show
promoting children to get the vaccine.
That's literally what CNN's doing when they're not
eating human brains.
They're not targeting children.
Like pedophiles.
Are children watching CNN?
No, but Sanjay Gupta is doing Sesame Street. Oh're not targeting children. Like pedophiles. Are children watching CNN? No, but Sanjay Gupta
is doing Sesame Street.
Oh, oh, oh.
It means he's legitimately
on their show on the lab.
I'm on the show.
It's so cut down.
Okay, okay, okay.
But Sesame Street...
Come on, come on.
Alex the Grouch.
But Sesame Street is on HBO.
Are children subscribed to HBO?
If the parents are watching HBO
on the apps,
are the children being headed the HBO Max app to watch Sesame Street?
Wait, wait. You think non-children are watching Sesame Street?
Non-children?
Of course it's only children watching.
CNN!
No, I'm asking if they're getting more than 10 children.
When Sesame Street leaves PBS and goes on HBO,
are parents putting it on and handing it to children?
No, no. It's on the Internet.
Targeting children on YouTube.
Tim, I promise you that Sesame Street is still very popular with the kids.
Come on.
Yeah, but I have a four-year-old.
I think it's fair to say that it's probably, it's reached a substantial...
Let me tell a real story.
Sure, that's fair.
I saw this two weeks ago and got mad about it.
I don't let my kids watch a lot of TV.
You got mad about something?
No.
I don't let them watch a lot of TV.
No, it doesn't get mad.
My four-year-old daughter, like Saturday, is like, let me watch TV.
So I give her the controller.
She knows how to run it.
She somehow goes to Sesame Street, and I'm watching Sanjay Gupta, and I've got my phone.
I go, God, I've got to shoot a video of my daughter standing in front of the TV.
I go, no, don't do it.
My wife will kill me.
But this happened.
So, I mean, literally, my daughter Saturday was watching it, and that made me physically ill.
I got the videos pulled up here.
CNN.
Big Bird talks to Dr. Gupta about
COVID-19 vaccine fear. Second
video. Sesame Street's Rosita
gets her first COVID-19 vaccine
dose. CNN, YouTube channel. Again, and
the list goes on and on and on. I'll tell you what the problem
with this is. You know what my problem with this is?
You ever see those commercials where it's like
ask your doctor if
Lobestro is right for you, and it's like even those commercials where it's like, ask your doctor if Lobestro is right for you.
And it's like, even those commercials wouldn't tell you what the drug was, but they would always tell you to like, just take it amongst yourself for private consultation.
Now they're outright like, children, here's a medication made just for you.
Get it.
They did an entire Sesame Street coronavirus town hall for over an hour.
There is apparently a precedent.
They have done vaccine episodes in the past,
but I don't think that accounts for the fact that this vaccine
is different than past vaccines.
I'm embarrassed.
I knew all this
and literally Saturday,
my four-year-old goes, give me the controller
and I'm sitting there on the phone doing stuff
literally like cooking a steak on the grill in my
living room. In the living room?
Well, you know, there's a kitchen and a living room.
And like, my daughter's watching
Sanjay Gupta, and I was like, okay,
I turn it off, she throws a fit. But I'm literally,
it's literally everywhere, man.
Have any of you guys watched it? Have any of you actually watched it?
Are they actually like jabbing kids
in the... They're jabbing the...
So what do you think, oh, Elmo.
So what do you think, Michael? That was Babylon B.
Do you think this is more about like visuals?
Babylon B did a joke on that.
What do you mean?
Like do you think this is more about like visuals for kids just to see it so they grow up thinking it's normal?
Or do you think they're actually trying to like educate little kids?
They're not trying to educate anyone.
They're trying to get the – so basically what happens is you go to school and the teachers teach you to be docile and submissive
and then this is basically the homework in a sense
that this carries on the lessons you're being taught in the school
by the entire cathedral.
Why did the dog bite you?
Because I misgendered it.
That's true.
Why did the chicken cross the street?
To get to the other side?
Probably because, well, so I have chickens
and actually I will tell you that.
There was a black helicopter chasing it down the street.
Well, we had a hawk attack on our chickens.
A black hawk. It was.
Well, I mean, the hawk was black.
I don't know. That's a helicopter, the black hawk.
It flew over, and the chickens all ran.
Temple, you are amazing.
Why did the chicken cross the road? Oh, probably
because they weren't looking to scratch some dirt
and get some dirt. Alex, at what point would you start
red-pilling your kids, or do you?
Well, that's the problem.
I've left my children alone.
And I've got four children.
So one's like 19, one's 17, one's 13, one's 4.
But I always think of my child as the youngest one.
And I'm like, that's why I feel guilty.
She knows how to run.
I don't know how to turn the TV on.
So I don't watch a lot of it. It's like all these...
She says, I want to put music on.
I want my... She's like...
All of a sudden, Sanjay Gupta
and I'm like grilling a steak.
I'm like, huh?
Then Gupta's doing it.
I go turn it off.
I'm telling you, my daughter is
like a demon conjuring Sanjay Gupta.
This happened like five days ago.
I don't know what to do.
I don't got kids.
Don't look at me.
Are you just like,
did you just like talk to her like an adult?
Like this is what the world is doing?
You know,
I don't want to say I respect my children.
I do.
But it's weird.
It's like I can't like tell a four-year-old
how things work.
They see it.
So I'm just like,
we're turning Sanjay off now.
And then she's throwing a fit
and she doesn't know why.
Why is a dude telling my daughter she should take a shot?
Alex, do you know what you do next time? I gotta turn this off.
This is scary.
That's what you tell her. Yeah, it's very scary.
Well, children are a lot more conscious,
a lot more aware. They actually have a lot more DMT
going through their brain up until a certain
age. So they're in touch
of the physical realm and the
spiritual world a lot more than even the human beings.
That's why they have such vivid imaginations
because of the extra DMT that
they have.
Michael's shaking his head. I just don't know anything about DMT.
That's why the pedophiles want to rape him.
Okay, well, anyway.
Moving on. Thomas Jefferson
was in the Illuminati.
He was the head of the Illuminati.
What Alex talked about, which again, we're trying to be
a family-friendly show,
but I think that's
out the window somehow,
has happened throughout
recorded human history.
Oh, dude,
we are not going down
that rabbit hole.
That is the...
Look, I'll tell you
what frustrates me is...
Racism?
I mean, well, yeah,
to be honest,
but we have people
talking about your kids
and the things that that you know
the atrocities committed against children but the manipulation we have people who keep saying that
they won't stand up they won't um defend themselves because they have kids to feed and i think it's
a remarkable precedent to see that a whole year of complying has resulted in food shortages and inflation,
labor shortages, port closures,
and all of these people who are like,
I will not stand up for freedom and my rights because I want to make sure there's food on the table.
This is food security for my children,
and now their children are more at risk for it.
Tim, I think this is the most important thing you've ever said.
Yes, we complied, not us, but the general
public, and it made it worse.
So submitting
to tyranny, being a
cuck, made it worse. So what do we do?
I think
when you look at how many states
are controlled by,
I don't want to say Republicans, but
it is people who are
in the Republican Party.
I will point out, to be fair, in New Hampshire, the free staters are all running as Republicans,
and they're doing amazing work in restoring liberties and rights and freedoms.
So here's what I think.
I think we're actually on a great path.
And if you look at how many, you look at the recent elections with pennsylvania
and and new jersey and and virginia man the the the cathedral seems to be losing a lot of power
they seem to be in a full-on panic mode you look at what happened at the fbi and james o'keefe and
that was the act of pure desperation yes it was such an egregious violation that even the aclu
and you know the free press or whatever comes out and
they were like we have to defend james o'keefe because that went overboard but the fbi was so
panicked so scared so desperate they made this pathetic move you can't so i was just gonna say
one thing you can't look at joe biden as a symbol of an empire at the height of its strength it's
true right so here's what i here's what i see it looks like a tombstone here's what i see i see i
see good news i see all this stuff all this bad stuff we talk about,
all this stuff that scares us,
and all the concerns we have about mandates and all that stuff.
And then I see people talking about a red tsunami.
I see people talking, and it's only going to be good
if people primary the establishment Republicans.
And get good, I agree.
Oh, God, that's so true.
We're in trouble if we let establishment blue-blooded Republicans get in.
I don't care if it's a liberal or conservative,
but a real populist gets in,
you're absolutely right.
But I'm talking about the House, the Senate,
and more importantly, the state representatives
and the state senates.
That trucker who won in New Jersey
has got to be, in my opinion,
the greatest symbol of victory.
Of victory. You know why?
Because he didn't do anything.
Ocasio-Cortez, when she beats
Crowley, it was because people were like,
anything but these people again.
Now she's playing about the establishment.
But let's look at New Jersey. What's the guy's name?
Ed Durr? Ed Durr.
He spends $153 to file
to run and then just shrugs.
And then people are like, I'll take the ham sandwich
over the Democrat. That guy is the blueprint
of victory. There's two points. Trump should have him
everywhere. They should have him everywhere. First of all,
Alex, you and I are old enough to remember
in 1994, the first time
Republicans took Congress in 40 years,
everything's going to be different. Very little
is different. Contract on America. Otherwise,
except for a balanced budget, very few things are different.
So I disagree a little bit if there's going to be
a red wave in 2022 that that's going to save
America. That said, hold on.
I agree with you, Malice.
Of course.
Thank you.
But how do we make our red wave be for us?
Alex, one second.
Michael.
My point is the victory is not going to come as a consequence of government and elections.
Victory is going to come once people realize that it's all a bunch of crap and all of this authority and nonsense is illegitimate at its core.
Did you ever comply?
Because you mentioned you never complied.
I didn't have to because I was working at Compound Media.
I had my...
So I was classified as a whatever important worker, whatever essential worker.
And I didn't do the lockdown for one minute.
I did the two weeks and then I feel like an idiot for it.
I mean, change is going to happen when people take personal responsibility for themselves.
When they start taking their own lives...
No, you got to talk straight into the mic.
It's just hard because it keeps locking my face here. But when people
start taking their own lives into their own hands
and start making decisions for their families,
for their communities, for their neighborhoods on a local
level, that's when things will change dramatically
and they can change the whole system.
The whole system is based on an illusion.
Can I just say one thing?
Once that lie is
eviscerated,
then and only then do the establishment lose all power and the people actually do stand up
and actually do make a big key difference
by just asserting themselves as free, sovereign human beings.
And here's the model.
The model is gun right laws.
If you're looking at Washington, it's going to be a wash.
If you go to the Wikipedia
and look at the gun right Laws in America page,
there is a GIF that goes year by
year in terms of...
Where it goes from
no one has gun licenses to
may issue to shall
issue to not even having a license.
And then state by state, it overwhelmingly
changes. Alex, let me please let me finish.
You've been talking to him.
You said 10 minutes, Alex. This is the gif.
A lot of those middle states.
Exactly. And the other thing is, the mob that's going to happen, what's going to save America,
is when this happens with regards to education.
As the money goes to funding students instead of funding systems,
and you get kids out of government schools, which are literal prisons for children,
and the only place many people experience violence in their lifetimes,
the cathedral is ruined.
Because all you need is 10% of the population to realize
that this is all a lie. Just look at this
map and watch as all
of the shell issues turn green
which is constitutional carry
unrestricted right to bear
arms. Can you explain what the colors are? It might be hard
to read. So this is by, so it's going to start
over in a second. In 1986
no issue, meaning these states
all the states that are in red which is a large amount will not give you concealed carry watch
are they in the yellow ones they might the blue ones as they're now expanding are are ordered they
must give you a concealed carry if you apply you can see here this is i think this vermont right
that's unrestricted alaska unrestricted now starting around the mid 2000s the
late 2000s we start seeing the rise okay 2010 constitutional carry starts states are now
enforcing uh enacting laws that say you don't need a permit you don't need to apply the constitution
says you have a right to keep and bear arms texas just got this this is crazy texas actually you
take a license you get an exam and a handgun license.
Now in Texas, it's constitutional carry.
Freedom is a chain reaction.
It could be a coincidence that a bunch of those red states in the middle are now green.
A bunch of the no issues are now unrestricted.
That's crazy.
Colorado, too.
Southern states said, we will not give you a concealed carry permit.
Now they're like, you can do whatever you want.
We're not going to even ask you.
Freedom is contagious.
I think the chart is also going to be the same way when it comes to homeschooling
because we're seeing a huge rise of people saying,
this indoctrination center, this Rockefeller-created education center
is something that's destroying my child's flame.
My child's life is being destroyed by this indoctrination, by this hate.
By the way, Luke,
it's almost over the top
if they're trying to cause a populist uprising.
It's so ridiculous.
Here's the thing, Alex.
It doesn't matter where a parent stands politically.
You go on TikTok and you see
these educational professionals
running their mouths.
You're going to think,
I don't know what this is, but I don't want this person near my kid. There was a university
professor today making arguments
Pedophilia. Yeah, yeah.
I was going to say that, but now we're saying it.
He was making excuses for pedophilia as
a university professor in sociology
making a video publicly
not afraid to say, hey,
pedophiles are just minor
attracted persons. No, they're not.
They're pedophiles. They need to be called out for what they are.
And trying to normalize
this culturally is having a huge backlash.
And they've been doing this in Loudoun County,
but they've been doing this in counties all
throughout the United States.
I just want to point out something.
I love that part. I just want to point something something. I love that part.
I just want to point something out.
I think it should be apparent to people
why we, on our show,
are less likely to get censored.
A lot of people are just like,
I don't understand how, you know,
Tim isn't getting shadow banned as often.
We sometimes do.
And they're like, my show gets taken down
and I said these things.
And it's like, you know,
sometimes we have guests on the show who just yell child rape out.
Normally we don't do that.
We tell people like, be careful because the idea is what's important, not the language.
And it's true that we have people who watch with their kids and they ask us not to do that.
So today's episode was off the rails with all the swearing and everything.
It started when I got an email and someone was like, hey, I drive in the car and listen to your podcast.
If you were more family friendly, you know, it'd be more palatable and someone was like, hey, I drive in the car and listen to your podcast. If you were more family
friendly, it'd be more palatable. I'm like,
oh, that makes sense. But then we get a lot of people and it's
very obvious how... I'm just going to
come out and say it. Y'all are
abrasive. Very abrasive.
And very hard for regular people
to get into when you scream these extreme
things that people don't get.
When Joe told you that you
have the... I guess, what did he say?
You know stuff. So when you come out
and say it and people don't know it,
it comes like you're
sort of blinded by what you know and what people don't.
So when we're talking about
stuff, and I think this comes from,
I'd worked in non-profits and
marketing and fundraising. If you want
someone to have a conversation and engage
and you want to make sure the ideas persist
and they understand, yelling
something like child rape is a guaranteed
way to make sure they shut down, don't listen.
Okay, Tim, can I just say something?
You're right that I can be slicker.
I was saying
it's in the news today, all over the news.
I'm not trying to be critical.
I love you, so I understand. You're right.
Help me. You're right. I can teach you. I love you, so I understand. You're right. Help me. You're right.
I can teach you.
You can teach me.
I agree.
I should have said it very calmly and nicely.
In Loudoun County, the young man that raped the woman,
or allegedly raped the woman, has now pled guilty.
No, he didn't.
He pled no contest.
Okay, well, he pled.
No contest is a no-fault submission to the court basically saying,
I'm not contesting this, just do whatever you want to do.
Well, I defer to you.
The headline I saw was that he pled to defer it.
No contest.
So no contest is basically saying, I don't want to plead guilty because then people will be like,
aha, you're guilty.
I just don't think I can win if I fall.
Tim, my understanding is that no la contendore is regarded legally
as effectively a guilty plea.
That's my understanding.
Can someone look it up on Wikipedia?
You're like Meg.
You say, I'm guilty, but don't hit me.
It's like, all I'm saying is this.
All I'm saying is this. All I'm saying is this.
They said that dad was a bad guy.
They said he was a liar.
The New York Times said he made it up.
And all I'm saying is, is that that is now in the news that that happened.
And I'm sure you're right.
I'm not perfect, but everybody's big and tough.
People should be able to hear this stuff.
That's all I'm saying.
For sure, sure.
I remember a long time ago I was watching,
I think it was CNN, I'm not sure,
it might have been C-SPAN,
and they were out on the ground,
and I can't remember,
they were on the ground at some event,
and you were there,
and they said,
oh, look, it's Alex Jones, radio host,
and you came onto the camera
and immediately started going,
people, you've got to listen to me,
I'm telling you right now!
And my friends were just,
they all started busting out laughing, and then they walked away, they turned it off. people, you've got to listen to me! I'm telling you right now! And my friends were just, they all started busting out laughing,
and then they walked away.
They turned it off.
Tim, you were right.
Let me read it.
For no contest,
it's an important legal issue.
So when you plead no contest,
like Spiro Agnew did, I believe,
the former vice president,
it's a plea in which the defendant
in a criminal prosecution
accepts conviction
as though a guilty plea has been entered,
but does not admit guilt.
And that can work in civil court,
apparently.
Right, right, right.
And some states don't allow that.
The point is the media said the dad made it up and arrested him.
And the dad was pissed.
The dude who was supposedly a woman went to the next place.
I don't care if he's a man or a woman.
I don't care what he did.
He reportedly assaulted a woman.
That's why I'm upset.
Two teen girls.
This kid.
And one of the big things about it was they initially said that it was a trans teen,
but it wasn't.
Which is the weirdest thing.
The teen who pled no contest is not trans,
as far as I know.
Yeah, and I don't hate anybody.
Gay, straight, whatever.
My point is...
Well, that's the point, too.
It's just taking advantage of the laws.
It's not...
Exactly.
Perverts take advantage of... No, but nobody... It was a weird thing, because I's the point, too. It's just taking advantage of the laws. It's not covering up. Perverts take advantage of it.
It was a weird thing because I read the story and I don't think the perpetrator even claimed to be trans.
Someone just decided to say it.
To cover up.
Was he wearing a wig? Did he dress up?
Wearing a skirt.
Wearing a skirt and went into the girl's bathroom to assault a girl.
So that just sounds like a predator going into a bathroom to assault somebody.
But for everybody, what's the question?
Why did they decide
to not just burn the person that did it
instead of try to cover it up?
Because it came out in emails.
The school's like, let's cover this up.
Because once it was a narrative that it was
a trans person, then they have the incentive to protect
their ideology and they're not going to admit
Well, the district also had a policy that they were going to present and punch in i think for
the unisex bathrooms and the teachers were going to be required to address the students based off
their own preferred pronouns so they literally shoved this girl under the rug that was violated
for the sake of a policy because they didn't want it to come out that this might be a bad idea it's
a cult it's honestly i think this is what we're talking about why things are changing i mean i don't think
anybody's politics is really gonna like control how people view their children and what i mean
by that is your children are everything to you and if we can't get behind protecting children
and we put politics and policy over children i think we're gonna have some serious problems
this is why things are changing.
In Loudoun County, they're insulted,
and they're also insulting people.
They literally said the reason why Democrats lost in this state
was because it was a white lash.
This was the narrative.
They're insulting all these people.
If it was a white lash,
please tell me how the first black Republican lieutenant governor got elected.
We have nothing to do with race. We have nothing to do with race, but they're insulting people. Josh, please tell me how the first black Republican lieutenant governor got elected. And then we got it.
We got nothing to do with race, but it's nothing to do with law.
It's nothing to do with law.
It's nothing to do with it's nothing to do with law.
It's nothing to do with policy.
None of that matters.
What matters is culture.
Now, they will use school boards.
They will use positions of power to enforce things they want.
But if the culture does not agree, it does
not happen. The problem is,
as Michael described it, most
people prefer safety over freedom.
So what happens is...
They don't get safety in slavery.
They don't. So here's what happens.
Culturally, we almost
exclusively agree as Americans,
critical race theory, when you
actually discuss the tenets of it, what it actually is,
you go to someone and say, should we segregate
people in schools? Almost every single
person, 99% will say no.
Then you ask them, would you be willing
to go to a meeting and
demand they stop doing it? And they'll say,
absolutely not.
Because I'm scared.
And then what happens? Their kids get segregated.
No, you said it.
We've been bullied, and because we won't go, that's it.
So what do we do, Tim?
I was saying in the primaries, primary out the establishment Republicans, a red wave is not going to save anybody.
But the Free State Project in New Hampshire, how do you feel about that, Michael?
I feel like that's huge.
A libertarian wave taking over the Republicans is beautiful, or Democrats.
Right.
I don't care.
How about we just have a populist wave take over everything?
Yeah.
Well, like with the Free State Project, last time I brought it up to Malice, I was like,
hey, are you going to Porkfest?
You were like, no.
I'm like, how dare you?
I think we're going.
I think we're taking this RV to Porkfest.
We are, yeah.
If we can get Starling.
We can, and I'll get it, and don't worry about it.
That wasn't a knock against the Free State Project.
That was a knock against me being in the woods.
I just want to clarify that.
I'm a big fan of the Free State Project.
Michael, we're going shooting Saturday.
Come on.
Yes.
We're getting vaccines?
Different kind of shooting.
And we're going to bring barbecue down, right?
Are we bringing barbecue down?
Did I get you barbecue today?
You did, from Terry Blacks.
I haven't had it yet. It's amazing. Blair, are you going to bring your down, right? Did I get you barbecue today? You did, from Terry Black. I haven't had it yet.
It's amazing.
Blair, are you going to bring your pink AR?
I can do that.
She's got one.
I got barbecue for you.
I want to go to the woods with you, though.
Thursday, too.
I know, it sounds like a nightmare.
We're going to go down.
If you want Rudy's, we'll get that.
Yeah, we could do Rudy's.
So you think a statewide school choice initiative
is the next step of
shattering the mold?
I think we need a national
free state kind of thing.
We need people at the local level
to start voting only
for their local candidates
who agree with certain principles
of freedom, liberty, individual responsibility.
I agree. We need a litmus
test for liberals, conservatives,
gay, straight, whatever. Do you support the Bill
of Rights, the Constitution, everybody's
rights? Let's get past the labels.
Who's going to be putting, this is nonsense,
who's going to be putting this litmus test into practice?
They do it in New Hampshire. New Hampshire
has the highest amount of homeschoolers
per capita than the entire United
States. They have some of the highest IQ.
They have some of the highest machine gun ownership.
Luke, stop.
This is not fair.
Machine gun ownership.
Don't use it.
You're full of it.
New Hampshire is a –
I've talked to gay people, straight people, black people, white people.
They all want freedom.
No, they don't.
You're full of shit because you saw what happened with the lockdowns.
If they all wanted freedom, we wouldn't have the lockdown.
That's a complete lie.
Stop the lockdowns. Wait, let me stop that. Florida, stop the lockdowns. If they all wanted freedom, we wouldn't have the lockdown. That's a complete lie. We stopped the lockdowns.
Wait, wait, wait.
Florida stopped the lockdowns.
Yeah.
Wait, no.
Why are you so pessimistic?
I'm not pessimistic because I'm thinking if you think the salvation is going to be voting
in the right people, you're completely delusional.
We culturally fight at every level.
Alex.
Voting is one aspect.
Alex, he's talking about the lemmings.
The millions of lemmings in this country that bend the knee to the global elite.
And to the Constitution.
They bend the knee.
What do we do about them?
And they don't want freedom.
You have to create systems that work around them.
So Drew Hernandez, what do we do?
Which means non-democratic systems.
What does that mean, non-democratic?
Meaning systems that don't depend on getting a majority of simpletons to agree with you.
No, I agree.
I'm a Republican in the Republican sense.
If 51% want to enslave me, they don't have a right.
But if it's 85%, it doesn't matter.
I don't care how popular it is.
My rights are not up for discussion, let alone a vote.
And Luke, the reason I was disagreeing with you is I am mad because there's a war in our minds.
What I was disagreeing with you about, Luke, is New Hampshire is a self-suffering
population. It's a very small population.
You can't replicate the Free State Project on
a nationwide level because there's a huge percent
of the population, as you agree with, who does not
share our values. I disagree
because if you look at just autonomy,
I don't care if it's a bunch of communists wanting to live
in the woods. We have examples
of this with the Amish. The Amish are
living by their own set of rules without government, without mandates
without vaccine mandates
and they're doing a lot better than a lot of other people
so if the Amish do it
they are dealing with COVID
but they haven't had a significant
Cheryl Atkinson did a great documentary
about this, it's on her YouTube channel
it's great, they are dealing with COVID
you guys are both right
but they don't have a huge death rate like many people expect it to It's on our YouTube channel. It's great. They are dealing with COVID. You guys are both right. And I think you're right too at the end of the day.
It's much lower.
But they don't have a huge death rate like many people expect it to,
even though they have policies where they literally drink from the same cup.
They have religious ceremonies.
And everyone said the Amish are going to die.
The Amish are going to have a huge extinction event.
That didn't happen.
Their death rate has stayed the same with COVID comparatively to the rest of the population.
So that's a big thing. Cheryl Atkinson's
documentary is really huge here.
And if the Amish could do it, the Free State Project
could do it, and that's victory in itself.
That's victory when people say, hey, I just
want to have my own kind of life,
my own rules,
my own autonomy.
That's right. With tyranny, noncompliance
is key. And New Hampshire has
created a beacon for Bitcoin,
has created a beacon for personal responsibility,
for personal freedom, for homeschooling.
It's becoming the shining light and example
of people coming together and saying,
hey, this is how I want to live.
You can live there.
And if people want to be communist,
let them go to New York City.
Let them go to Los Angeles.
They have a right to live wherever they want to.
It's not going to replicate nationwide.
It doesn't have to be.
I have an administrative thing to say.
I have an administrative thing to announce to the people listening.
For the Super Chats, at a certain point,
YouTube just starts deleting Super Chats.
So we can read some of them,
but I just want to say,
because I feel bad for a lot of people
who are posting comments and questions,
when you have a show this big,
we had 110 plus, I think we had like 114 or 15,000 people watching it one time
good lord
YouTube just basically starts erasing the super chats
thank you everyone
give me a copy of those super chats
you could live in New York City
you could live in Los Angeles or you could live in New Hampshire
I live in New Hampshire because that's how I choose to live
Luke I moved to Austin for this reason
you're preaching to the choir
the new California
you moved to the new California where all reason. You're preaching to the choir. The new California.
You moved to the new California where all the trendies are moving to.
The point is,
Tim and Alex were asking
how do we replicate this nationwide
and all I'm saying is
you can't replicate
the Free State Project nationwide
because there's not enough people
to make that happen democratically.
No, I disagree.
We were just talking about how,
who was mentioning this,
the primaries basically dictate how all the elections are being run.
Were we talking about this?
I don't think we were.
But the idea is that you get a small amount of people who will vote for a Democrat,
and then independents basically don't participate in primaries.
So they enter the election, and they're like,
what are my choices?
Whatever the Democrat,
10% and the Republican,
10% voted for.
What happens if you get
a free state project of
you got a state with
a million people
or you got a jurisdiction
of a million people
and 100,000 are
liberty-minded people
who are brought together
and they all say,
we are all going to vote
in the Republican primary
for this libertarian
and then the independent moderates have no choice but to vote for our guy.
Exactly. It's that swing vote that takes over.
That's how Trump won.
It's how the progressive, it's how AOC won.
Nobody actually knew who or what she was.
I feel like I'm crazy.
There's an enormous asymmetry, because when you have those two candidates,
whoever that libertarian candidate is will be demonized by the corporate press.
But that backfires now.
Biden won.
Yeah, I think you're right that we need a
non-democratic solution.
I told this to Steve Bannon.
I'll tell you what the most...
Okay, well, he wouldn't win right now.
I don't think he'd win right now, but the most frustrating thing is...
They won two seats in Georgia.
They write an article explaining about the shadow campaign to save the election.
They talk about mail-in voting and how it gave them massive advantages over Republicans.
And then you end up with this large populist movement spinning in circles about things they haven't proven in a year.
And then instead of getting their ground game going and countering the changes to election law,
they're going around screaming at each other about...
So we engaged him in a reset war. I'm trying to get people to realize... Is there a website for that, Alex? the changes to election law, they're going around screaming at each other about Tim's right. So if we're engaged, Tim, and then reset
war, I'm trying to get people to realize
Is there a website for that, Alex? The corporation
is creating
resetwars.com.
The point is, it's the biggest thing I'm doing.
It's going to launch next month. It's huge.
I've changed the world a lot here, so I'm not a
BS-er. This is big stuff.
How do we get people aware of the global corporate
structure, how they're mind controlling us,
instead of just receiving the propaganda?
We've got a big awakened population right now.
How do we get them engaged?
I would say build a decentralized parallel system,
and I'll give it to you also.
I'll say it's do ridiculous things like this.
Yes.
I was like, hey, we're going to do a really, really crazy show.
Navigate the minefields
to the best of your abilities so
they don't chop the tree down
before it has a chance to bear fruit.
And I will say, free state-like
ideas, it's not perfect, but I think
New Hampshire is doing something very, very
powerful and positive.
I got to tell you, if we're going to
have any victories like what New Hampshire is
doing is very interesting and it can be done in other states, a small minority of politically active individuals can over – like look at the Mises Caucus.
I know the Libertarian Party is not very big.
When Dave Smith gets 15 percent of the polling numbers in 2024 and I'm the press secretary for that campaign, getting 15 percent of the polls is not impossible.
And then things are really going to get fun.
And then what happens is
you may be in the minority, but
most people will just vote for
one or the other, and if you're the alternative
to the corrupt machine where
people are ready to vote for a ham sandwich,
you're there.
Here's what I want to say.
Right now, one of the things that bothers me the most,
we had Steve Bannon on this show, and I think he's a very smart guy and we we did a members only segment where we talked about
fraud and he's he's adamant in his belief and i said take a look at universal mail-in voting
take a look this is why i believe there is no fraud and i believe it's a red herring that
has manipulated the populists into totally losing their standing and grounding and their ability to win these battles. Because you have in a Democrat city, one, look at New York, you get one housing complex
with 500 units. They all get five universal mail-in ballots for the five people who live there,
mom, dad, and their 2.5 kids. The Democrat sends one activist to go door to door and hits
500 families times five votes each,
and they can do that in a couple days just knocking on doors as they make their way up,
and they say this, did you vote yet?
Your ballot is right there. Fill it out. I'll wait.
Republicans have to go to rural areas where they drive through suburbs, and they can hit five houses on one block, and they can get ten houses in a day.
And Republicans should focus on cities.
Republicans should focus on the rule changes that heavily advantage urban dense centers.
The Republicans should focus on the rule changes that disadvantage Republicans.
Instead, what are we getting?
Trump's movement.
The populists are right now, they're talking about Venezuela and China and gun battles in Germany.
And I'm like, they got him.
They shut him down with the conspiracy fraud stuff.
And now, because Donald Trump won in 2016
with 77,000 votes across three states.
Sure, he did really well in the Electoral College,
but it was 77,000 votes across three states.
And so they said,
if we can throw the populist movement off base
with something that won't have an impact on us,
we won't lose again.
And they did it.
A year before the 2020 election,
the Republicans in Pennsylvania changed the law to introduce universal mail-in voting.
We talked with Sean Parnell about this. He sued about this. They said, at first,
we're going to create universal mail-in voting. Uh-oh, our constitution forbids it. And they
stopped because they needed a constitutional amendment to enact it. They stopped and said,
okay, what do we do? Let's change the word to mail-in instead of absentee and pass it anyway.
And when Sean Parnell and others sued over this because it was an unconstitutional change,
a lower court judge said, on the merits, you will likely win. It went to a higher court who said,
not on the merits, just for standing or for it's too late i forgot the the the the
latin word for too late is they said we're not even going to take the case so we see an article
that in time magazine the shadow campaign to win to save the election and they explain exactly what
they did we changed all the rules to heavily advantaged dense urban centers and then republicans
got not republicans but the populists got wrapped up in a fraud narrative that stopped them from acting.
There's a whole book about this.
Can I say something now?
Let me just say one sentence, Alex.
I'm in behind you.
One sentence.
There's a whole book about this called Rigged by Molly Hemingway.
I know you had Mark on the show to discuss this.
If people are interested, they can read about it.
Go ahead, Alex.
No, I'm just going to say, where does this all end?
We're about to be at war with China.
The dollar's plunging.
There's massive inflation.
Let's talk about the big picture.
What is the American people going to do
as they realize that the design collapse is here
and that all these corporate interests think we're too stupid
to understand what's happening?
To me, that's the big deal.
Forget Trump.
Forget Democrats.
Forget all this stuff.
We are in a major sea change right now, in my view.
Alex, I think being happy, healthy and prepared For whatever comes next
Is the solution, is the real resistance
And there's going to be a lot of turmoil
Especially economically hitting this country
As soon as COVID happened
I was like, this is not going to be about COVID
This is going to be about the economy
And we're seeing the start of this
This is only the beginning of this
And I think we're really headed for hard times
And I think the way to resist
this is by having family,
is by having a network, is by having a
cohesive group together that is ready for
whatever happens. If you're unprepared, you're
weighing down your family, you're weighing down your neighborhood,
you're weighing down your community. So right
now, more than ever, smarten up,
look at the situation that's happening in front of you,
and make sure that you are ready for whatever's to come
because it's going to be a very bumpy ride.
I totally agree with that.
We should just transcend all the arguments
and realize this is a global engineer collapse.
Yes, it is.
I'm concerned about the food supply.
Because people love each other until they get hungry.
Great point, Ian.
Yeah, I'm going to eat my neighbors.
Look at all.
How do you rapidly bring about a quality...
Drew, you're looking
pretty good right now.
We need to fix
the shipping industry
because right now
Amazon's got kind of a...
Alex, you'll be the
first one we eat.
Let's face it.
How do you bring about
the equity they have said
they want to bring about?
It's simple.
Knock everyone to zero
and then there's no
systemic inequality
and everyone is now
destitute and poor
and then when you
start over,
everyone will be the same or so they believe.
We'll see.
No, I agree.
If you wanted to run an actual communist system, you'd knock everyone to zero and then let their own instincts bring it back up.
But they're not going to do that.
Well, see, what would happen is there are some people of skill and merit who will naturally rise to the top.
And there are some people who won't. And so there's this belief among the postmodernists,
the blank slaters and all that stuff,
that you strip everyone of what they own,
take away everything they own,
and make them all worth nothing,
and then when they start over, everyone will be equal.
But you know what's going to happen?
Uh-oh, the tall grass will start growing again.
And as we know, the communists will decide you have to cut the tall grass.
And they'll keep having to mow the lawn to deal with
the fact that some people are better
than others. And I don't mean like
I mean quite literally
in terms of skill, in terms of passion.
It's okay that some people are better than others
at work.
Literally. Sports, math,
science. Yeah, there's a lot of
folks better at lifting weights
or doing math than me. I've got my skills.
Joe Logan is a better fighter than I am.
He is a badass.
I need to recognize that he's better than me at fighting.
That's right.
And so what happens when you have a society of a bunch of people and some people are just better than others?
And then you learn, oh, I'm better at this.
Let me provide this to the man or woman that's better than me at this.
And then we have a symbiotic relationship.
That's what it's all about.
So what ends up happening then is the guy
who's better than Michael
at baking cakes, bakes the cakes. Because why
would Michael if someone else can do it better?
And then all of a sudden we have a society with really
awesome cake, we have great basketball players,
we have great scientists,
we have amazing and talented
politicians who clearly, no I'm kidding about
that last one, but then people can say, you know, whoever is really good at this task can help provide that task.
That's basically what we do.
The post-modernists, neo-Marxists, communists, whatever, this ideology, this cult religion,
they don't believe that exists.
So what will happen?
Well, they'll have to purge anyone who proves it doesn't exist.
Yeah, they want to attack anybody that doesn't fit into that model.
But then that's the lie.
They say they're in charge in the model.
They say, oh, nobody's in charge but them.
Right.
And if they're not, say there's like a horrible reset
where like an asteroid hit the earth and wiped out the population.
They grew back like 13,000 years ago.
You see warlords.
You see the people that are the best at and got there first taking power not necessarily
good um it's an it's never been a perfect system it's an imperfect system tyranny is not a conspiracy
theory and i think people need to understand that you know you're either going to learn through
wisdom or you're going to learn through experience and i mean we could sit here and warn the world
with absolute truth day in day out,
every single night,
giving them the best coherent arguments as to why they shouldn't follow these
dangerous ideologies.
But it's not until they actually feel it,
experience it.
Well,
they actually wake up and I'm not talking about the people that are watching
that are awake to this stuff.
I'm talking about the people that actually believe what's being told to them
on CNN and all these properties.
That's beautiful.
Tyranny is not a conspiracy theory.
It's not a conspiracy theory.
It's happened in human history.
And I just want to communicate to the viewers right now, we are not telling you what to think.
We are telling you, think for yourself.
Because if you're not thinking for yourself, then someone else is thinking for you, whether it's left or right.
And that's when you get into a dangerous place.
That's happening in mainstream media.
That's happening in the music industry. That's happening
in education. It's happening on all
fronts. And right now, this podcast
is for the purpose to communicate to the public.
Think for yourself, because that is the message
that I think every single one of us have.
That's right. Don't give your will over to anybody.
And two things.
Hopefully, whatever ends up happening to this podcast
had already reached a lot
of people. Yeah, what people What is it millions already?
I think we probably in total views
Maybe over a million but I won't know until we wrap
And we get the full numbers
You had Joe Rogan for an hour
What was the peak live number?
I think it was a little bit more than one
You told me when I was on was the record
Didn't Joe record?
No no no
When we had you on last year it was like 140
That was us.
Yeah, it was crazy.
The other thing I'll say is I'm only going to take
a few super chats.
We should. Let's talk to these people.
I'm looking for the hard, legitimate, good
questions that can spark
the conversation, but I greatly respect
and appreciate all the super chats that are saying
FJB and we love the show and things like that. I mean it. YouTube deleted a lot of them, but I greatly respect and appreciate all the super chats that are saying, you know, FJB and we love the show
and things like that. I mean it, I mean it.
YouTube deleted a lot of them, but I want to try and find
the core questions that we can ask
to kind of, you know, keep this conversation at a
good level. And we have one right here from
Hooser Films' Malice. How do we go
from the Constitution is garbage and
boomer to the freedom
will come through gun rights laws? How
exactly will those get done legally without
current 2A? The 2A has
been a very, very poor
bulwark against government encroachment against
gun rights as the fact is that as a New Yorker
it's almost impossible to get a handgun.
So the second amendment is supposed to
codify your right to bear arms, but the
courts can define however they like
and they completely dismiss it. So the best answer
for gun rights is gun proliferation
because once there's enough guns distributed
through the population, it's literally impossible
to have that bell be unrung.
Power to the people. What about
arms in general? If you had nanobots
that could fly into people's ears and blow
their heads, should everyone have that
weapon too? No, only me.
And Blair. Would today cover
that? That's the big question.
The globalists say they're going to take over and have a world government
to stop proliferation of
inter-technology, which I get, but then
they still have the power. Of course, yes.
It never applies to them. But that's the part of everything
that came out of 2020 that didn't work in their
favor was there were so many people who
realized for the first time in their lives
they needed a gun.
And one more thing. Everyone's stupid
Facebook friend for a long time, up until
2020, was talking about, look at Australia.
They gave up their guns, and now
they don't have crime. You're full of it. Look at Australia.
And now I'm going to say to tell your Facebook friends,
yeah, look at Australia. Look at gun control.
It equals total slavery. Look at Europe.
They have the most vax mandates. I don't want to look at Europe.
They have the least amount of gun ownership
in the world
so I'll say it again
most of the super chats are just like I agree
or great show and things like that and thank you all so much
for the super chats because this is a huge show for us
but we have a good question here
Uncle Sam says Tim do you still stick to
it's just a mask why or why not
I saw it as a cracked door to
what we are experiencing now thoughts
I do feel like it's just a mask, for the most part.
We flew out here, and they said, you have to wear a mask by federal law.
I said, what federal law?
And they were like, there is none.
And then I was like, I'm going to wear the mask.
I'm not stressed about it, right?
There is none.
There's no federal law mandating the masks.
But if a private business says, we have a plan.
You can fly it.
You've got to wear a mask.
I say, okay.
It's like, whatever.
It was three hours.
It's annoying.
I don't like it, but it's not irreversible.
A private company, it's tough, right?
Go to minimallycomplymask.com and you can get a mask that doesn't do anything but looks like it's doing something.
Well, regardless of that.
That's what I use.
I think.
Great idea.
We had a conversation recently.
We had a conversation on the show.
The CDC has like they've put out 65 studies saying masks do reduce transmission to varying degrees.
And the numbers vary wildly depending on what people think the efficacy is.
But ultimately, there's a challenge of private businesses can say we want you to wear a mask the same as they say we want you to wear a shirt.
And it's not the end of the world for me to walk into a store, put on a mask, walk off, take it, walk out, take it off.
It is, however, when the business says you can't enter unless you undergo an irreversible medical procedure.
That's very, very different.
Medical IDs and the vaccine passport is the key to the carbon tax and the social credit score.
The vaccine pass, in the Davis Group's own words, is the platform and the key to their entire takeover.
Yeah, digital ID.
Everywhere you go, they walk your papers no matter what.
They can track and trace you.
And then they get a social credit score.
Here's a very, very important question.
Maddie Matt Matt says, Tim, who's the smoking hot babe with the sultry voice sitting next to Blair?
Michael Malice.
Sitting next to Blair. I loveice. Sitting next to Blair.
I love it.
This is my wife right here.
Oh my God.
Already?
Listen.
Are you going to take his name, Blair?
What?
Blair Jones.
Blair Jones.
Blair Jones.
Go ahead and elbow me right here.
There are a lot of really funny joke questions that I would love to read, but I really am
trying to find...
Read them all.
No, I want to find the good questions about what's going on
and what we can talk about that's actually...
Spark a conversation.
Well, a lot of people are asking Blair to do something with Tom McDonald,
and considering there were many of those I've seen so far...
Blair did a whole music video. What else do they want?
I guess more?
I guess.
Oh, man, trying to find good questions.
I'd love to, but...
I was on Blair's show reacting to
tic-tac so you could find that everyone should go watch the video we just posted
the UFOs you can come on my tic-tac so all these crazy people I want Alex on my
channel oh Jesus you know The first show I ever
went on was actually Alex's show.
I think I had like 10,000 subscribers
and I had the nice... Back when YouTube
messaging was a thing, there was inboxes,
you sent me the nicest message. I forget
exactly what you said, but it was just very nice.
And you were the first show I was ever on.
So this is not a question,
but it's a statement, but I think it's still a good one.
Asher Litwin says, to answer Blair's comment
about prop police cars,
they're often used as a deterrent in lieu
of an actual officer on protection.
Oh, wow. That's smart. Interesting.
All I know is I know a guy who
does that. Well, they got burned up.
Well, they all got burned up.
By my house, they got one that has a clock
on it saying how fast you're going.
Interesting. So, I gotta be honest,
not a whole
lot of good, direct, you know...
Thanks for your
money, Chuck!
Hold on, hold on.
I can read this one.
That one's $100.
Chase says, share this link,
like and subscribe. Yes,
please do. But no, no, but not all
of, like, I'm trying to please do. But not all of...
I'm trying to find the questions where it's like,
you said, actually, I'm curious about why.
What is the secret of the universe?
I'm not trying
to not read people's superchats,
but a lot of them are like, thank you for the show.
Great job doing the show.
I came in late. Great show.
Things like that. So I really, really respect that.
I appreciate it. But I'm going through, great show, things like that. So I really, really respect that and I appreciate it.
But I'm going through just looking for...
As Tim's going through this and as Tim's going to find a good one,
I just want to thank Tim for setting this up.
This is incredible.
I seriously can't thank you enough.
I think this was one of the most epic podcasts ever.
Return what you have stolen.
No, you've got to do the return the map.
Return the map.
Return what you have
stolen. You are in
great danger.
What is that from?
Luke, be very sincere, okay?
Sincerely, thank you, Tim, for
setting this up. This is absolutely incredible.
Yes, Tim Poole, for you.
Admiral Nelson says this episode lived up is absolutely incredible. Yes, it would have been important for you. Admiral Nelson says
this episode lived up to the hype. Thanks for the
show, Tim. We have you on the Discord server.
Have these type of conversations
all the time. Feel free to stop by.
Give us some written house questions.
Why did the Bible remove all the psychedelics
that Jesus did from it?
It's like you're doing an Ian impression.
Oh, yeah. Even in Revelation, it's like you're doing an Ian impression.
Even in Revelation, it's like the angel gives them something to take.
We have a question.
Sorry, I didn't mean to.
We do have a question. It was for Rogan, but
Rogan's not here, but I still think we can discuss it.
Kyle Petty says, Tim,
please ask Rogan what it's like being the new
target for all mainstream media.
Even the new Netflix special Inside Job insinuates he's a flat earther and says YouTube and Joe Rogan are lying to you.
Don't know if he knows about that.
Now, Joe's not here because he had to leave.
Did you see the SNL parody of it?
It was not even jokes.
It was so off base.
It's good to be attacked by a dying system.
It is.
It's a big sign of success.
Netflix created a show called Inside Job.
Luke talked about it.
I'll say this.
I was hooked on that show.
I had to watch it, and it was not funny.
It was not funny.
It was supposed to be funny.
It was a comedy show?
It was a comedy, and you'd see the beats for the jokes that didn't work.
But there was one joke I chuckled at where a psychic mushroom from the hollow earth was talking about how he can't hang out with Joe Rogan anymore.
That's too far.
No, it was funny.
I can't remember exactly what the joke was, but he was just like...
By the way, did we let everybody know you're on Joe's show tomorrow?
Yeah, and this is the hard thing because that's why Joe was like,
hey, I'll see you tomorrow.
I'm going to go on Joe's show.
And I'm sweating bullets because I'm like,
if the verdict comes in and I'm on his show
and we're doing like this not
so we're here in the mobile studio
I've got news, I've got the verdict
the trial playing in real time
I'm sitting here doing my work because I'm like wired
into the matrix. You've got to dance with who brung you
you're going to do his show? Oh no of course of course
I'm just saying I'll be on his show constantly
wondering like what if it
I'm going to walk out of the cave
and look at the sun and see my phone.
What, you're taping tomorrow at, like, noon?
Yeah.
I will, I swear to God, I'll text you the verdict I'm sending.
All right.
Why is that?
I like the idea that only Alex will have this information.
Like, somehow you won't be able to learn otherwise.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm his friend.
Yeah.
And I'm going to be watching live covering it,
and then I will text him if it happens.
Okay.
That way he can focus on Joe.
I'm on air focusing.
I will let him know.
See, the whole teamwork, Mal.
Let's take this question.
It's something you anarchists don't get.
I'm a communist.
Mal, say tongue, baby.
Anarchists understand being independent and finding information on their own.
We'll take this question. This is a good one
because it's based on what we're saying.
Mad Anthony
says, Tim, what do you
feel about the judge in the Rittenhouse case
overturning the jury if they find him guilty?
And we'll
leave it there.
Yes, I agree with that. I think that
there should already be a mistrial
with prejudice.
Oh, yeah.
Because the state committed a grave constitutional violation.
The judge even called out.
But the judge is worried.
Questioning his Fifth Amendment is wrong.
Yes.
Yes.
On the stand in front of the jury.
Yep.
And that wasn't the only thing.
He admitted evidence to the jury that wasn't supposed to be admitted.
And he asked witnesses to lie.
That's done.
And he admitted CGI evidence.
At this point, I feel like the left is like,
the judge is biased and he needs to beat this bard or whatever it is, removed from the...
And I'm like, yeah, he's biased for them.
And they don't even realize it
because they're so insanely biased.
The judge has done a fairly good job across the board,
dismissing the gun charges.
I wish all judges were like that guy.
Can I say, I had Robert Barnes again.
He's on my show, You're Welcome, this week.
And we had an hour of him breaking down the case.
And he really went into detail.
Because I hadn't been following the case.
And he really educated me.
It was fascinating.
ResetWars.com.
ResetWars.com.
ResetWars.com.
What's the name of the kid who sued CNN?
Nicholas Sandman.
I hope that he becomes the next me, too.
I asked Robert about that.
And it's very, very hard to prove damages because if your
damages are a trial
it's not the same as like I lost a job
or I got defamed so it's
that's actually not a likely
unless you're Alex Jones then you get a
default they would have to prove
malice like malicious
prosecution calling him a white supremacist
in order to...
They can prove malice.
The state is allowed to prosecute you in good faith.
And they owe you nothing if you are found not guilty.
But if it's malicious prosecution, which this may be, then you can sue.
That's almost never found, though.
Right.
It's almost impossible.
This is definitely malicious prosecution because you have all the videos that they knew,
and they tried to misrepresent.
All right.
We'll do a couple more.
Satchel Gizmo says,
Luke, you can get this one.
In an anarcho-capitalist society, how do you prevent corporations from monopolizing military power
and creating a pseudo-government?
Good question.
Malice, I want to give it to you.
They have no answer.
Markets do not tend toward monopoly, number one.
Number two is there's no...
Look at NATO.
There's no reason...
But militaries do.
What?
You can argue and say markets don't,
but militaries take over markets.
Like the cartels, not monopolies?
Sure.
The point being...
The cartels are government.
Exactly.
That's another...
How do the Mexicans...
You're arguing semantics.
The point being that
what are presented as the strongest arguments
against anarchism are inevitably
description of the status quo.
So if your concern is that we have what we have now,
then it's a wash. My point being,
when you have decentralization and you have
competition, especially in a military context, you would have these roaming coalitions where sometimes you'd have the NATO thing, sometimes you'd have the Iraq war, and so on and so forth.
There's no reason for it to be systematized into a monopoly because monopolies are inherently inefficient and a function of government.
And overall, there will be less harm when things are more decentralized rather than centralized with thermonuclear missiles that are literally above our heads and satellites waiting to come down any moment when a politician loses
his brain as he's carrying a nuclear
football everywhere he goes. That to me is
dangerous. Did you say nuclear? Nuclear
football. Oh, Michael, you need
to hang out with Luke a little bit. I agree
with you, but the thing is
it's not, how do you decentralize
things without giving the decentralizers
power?
Yeah, right, like random...
What language are you speaking?
Well, like random dude and his nine buddies will have a nuclear warhead
at that point.
No, you decentralize power, it convalesces.
That's how power works.
No, that's the progressive idea of economics.
Power only becomes centralized
as a function of government. Look at the music
industry, look at literature, look at
podcasts and the news. Markets
tend towards competition and
choice as opposed to one.
I thought you made a good point about militaries
tending towards monopolies
because that's what stops me from
anarchy all the way. I'm like a minarchist, I guess.
I've got some bad news.
The bad news is actually good news. You mentioned
I'm going on Joe's show tomorrow and that means in order to get my work done, I've got some bad news. The bad news is actually good news. You mentioned I'm going on Joe's show tomorrow.
And that means in order to get my work done, I've got to wake up at 5 a.m.
So I want to unleash the members-only show and be able to just go off the rails.
So my friends, all of you who are listening, go to TimCast.com.
Become a member.
This is our insulated protective sphere of warmth where we can say
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You've got Drew Hernando here,
Luke Radowski, and you've got the
communist leader, Michael Malice.
The show is not over.
What we do every night is
after the main show, live,
and let's be real, we are careful about
sometimes what YouTube allows.
You go to ResetWars.com.
But you go to TimCast.com, become a member, and we're going to have a members-only segment
of this very show where we're going to continue the show on our website.
And Michael Malice is going to strip teeth.
Yes, yes, I guess so.
I guess so.
It'll be like that Patrick Swayze
Saturday Night Live sketch with Chip and Dale.
I want you to give me a powerful slug
on air when we come back.
I'm not a strong person.
You are. We're going shooting Saturday.
You're going Saturday.
I think Joe may come.
We're going shooting Saturday.
I'll have barbecue out at my ranch.
Am I going to be hunted for sport? No.
It's very safe. It is a safe environment.
It is. Have you ever shot before?
There's security. There's security on set.
We smell blood, Malice.
Yes, on my nose.
Misgendered that dog.
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And then we have a huge library of members-only shows where we talk crazy.
It's crazy talk.
There's like a two-hour show where Luke massages me with oil.
Oh, that's a good one.
That's true. That's false. Fake news. Disinformation. It's crazy talk. There's like a two-hour show where Luke massages me with oil. Oh, that's a good one.
That's true.
That's false.
Fake news.
Disinformation.
Flay grip false advertising.
All right.
Are we going around?
Yes, we are.
But hold on.
Follow the show at TimCastIRL everywhere.
We have clips on Instagram.
You can follow me at TimCast on Instagram or wherever else. And follow us at ResetWars.com.
Biggest thing I've done yet.
It launches in three weeks in the middle of December.
ResetWars.com. It's next level. We've got the MKUltra.com. weeks in the middle of December resetwars.com
it's next level
we got the MKUltra document
what's the website?
resetwars.com
what is it?
alright alright
Blair
Blair
I gotta be up at 5am
come on
resetwars.com
Tim that sounds like a you problem
Blair how do we find you Blair?
I will press end
wait hold on
hold on
Blair
outros
Blair how do we find you?
outros
Blair White on YouTube Twitter and Instagram how do we find you? Outros.
Blair White on YouTube, Twitter, and Instagram.
Just search the name.
You can watch me and Michael's new collab on my channel.
It's really, really funny.
And yeah, just search me on everything.
And FreeWorldNews.tv.
Come on, Alex.
Now let's watch yourself.
I think Reset Wars is great branding.
Nice work.
Alex, I'm coming on my channel.
IanCrossland.net.
Pass the buck.
Follow me on Twitter,
DrewHLive. Go to my website,
DrewHLive.com. That's how you can support me.
Start oiling me.
If you want to know
more about the shirt that I'm wearing and
how Epstein and Christmas lights are connected,
you can find out by going to thebestpoliticalshirts.com
and supporting me there.
And I also have Lukekeuncensored.com
where I just
launched all my apocalypse survival
training videos, all of it exclusively
for members. lukeuncensored.com
I hope to see some of you guys there.
lukeuncensored.com
And thank you guys all very much for
tuning in. Oh, let me throw it to Michael before
I go. You did a great job.
Let's get ready
to rumble! Can we end on the war cry?
Hold on, hold on. Malice and then Lydia
but then war cry. Let Malice do it!
Reset wars!
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Let Michael promote his book. Yes, he has to do his thing.
I'm very, very excited.
AnarchistHandbook.com. Yes!
The audiobook has finally gotten to a distributor.
Tim did one of the chapters for the audiobook so that's going to be at AnarchistHandbook.com. Yes. The audio book has finally gotten to a distributor. Tim did one of the chapters
for the audio book
so that's going to be
an anarchist book.
That is a sexy book.
Yeah.
Thank you.
So you get it
at anarchisthandbook.com.
The book's going to be
anarchistaudiobook.com
and you can follow me
on Michael Malice
and you can smash
my subscribe button
at youtube.com
slash Michael Malice official
where I also take
By the way,
you need to return my call
to come on my show
and promote that.
That's not true.
Lydia.
Lydia.
Lydia.
We're going to go.
Thank you guys very much for tuning in for this super awesome in Austin show with Joe
Rogan.
You guys can follow me on Twitter at Sarah Patch Lids.
Do you have more followers than Sarah Patch Kids now?
Yes.
We will see all of you at TimCast.com in a members only segment with this very show and
we're going to just open the floodgates.
Thanks for hanging out and we'll see you there.
Everyone, war cry right now.
Ready?
War cry.
War cry.
War cry.
War cry.