Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #418 - CNBC Host Calls For Military To Enforce National Vax Mandate w/Rav Arora

Episode Date: December 2, 2021

Tim, Ian, Luke, and Lydia join young journalist Rav Arora to discuss the rant of the CNBC host who called passionately for military enforcement of vaccinations, the Australian police arresting citizens for attempting to leave a supposedly-voluntary Covid quarantine camp, the Moderna CEO who's afraid that it's time to double up on boosters, Fauci's choice to treat the Omicron variant like a crisis and telling people to 'prepare for the worst' and expect lockdowns, and a spirited conversation about the possible repeal of Roe v Wade by the Supreme Court. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Man, Jim Cramer on CNBC totally lost the plot. In a long tirade, he called for the military to run government enforced mandatory vaccinations. It was pretty intense. This was not some light thing like maybe we should have the military come out and offer up people services. No, no, he was like, everybody should be forced to do it. And if you don't want to do it, go to court and then file your conscientious objector status and we'll have the military run it. And if you don't want to do it, go to court and then file your conscientious objector status and we'll have the military run it. Fauci came out and he said, it's time. He said, we might not have to lock down, but prepare for the worst. When asked, he said, we're going to have lockdowns. Don't worry, it'll be temporary. And Joe Biden said, lockdowns will not be necessary

for now if everyone gets the vaccine and wears their masks. So I'll make this prediction. You know, I don't like making predictions because the Internet loses their minds when I do. And I'm just, you know, sometimes wrong. But how about this? I think we're going to see lockdowns again. I think Omicron is here. It's being reported in San Francisco.

I think we're going to see lockdowns. I think it's going to be mostly in blue states. I certainly think Florida and Texas are going to say shove off. But I think New York, California, Illinois, many of these blue states are going to come out. They're going to be like, we've got to do it again. And I would not be surprised if the governors of these states then kill more elderly people. We talked about the hope experiment. What was this guy's name?

Carl Richter or something yeah i don't know something like that he basically put rats in a vat of uh in a cylinder full of water and within 15 minutes they give up they can't swim they die then he did another experiment where he took them out just before they drown dries them off put them back in the second time because of hope they swam for i think hours was the total. They wouldn't give up because they believed this hand might come and save me again. So I've been saying for a while, now that they've reduced the lockdowns, they'll come back and they'll come back substantially worse. So we're going to talk about all that. We got a cool group here. We got Rav here. You want to

introduce yourself, man? Yeah, yeah. I'm a journalist, mostly writing for the New York Post and other outlets as well, writing about COVID mandates, crime, identity politics, but lately a lot about COVID and mandates and young people, especially the side effects that young people are facing and the risks with mandating vaccines for school children and all of what's happening right now in Europe and across North America. Right on, man. Thanks for coming. We got to talk about it. We got Luke. So I'm here watching the chat and I want to shout out the person that just said, no, Rutkowski, we puke-owski. Really appreciate that very much. I appreciate you guys. And if you guys want to support me,

you can by checking out my t-shirt store. It, of course, is thebestpoliticalshirts.com and you can buy shirts like the one I'm wearing right now that says, if you trust the government, you don't know history. I think an important lesson that Jim Cramer should really learn.

They make great gifts and gag ideas. The best political shirts dot com. Thanks for having me. That is a astute statement on your shirt. I think a lot about if I didn't have the knowledge of what Nazis and what the Nazis had done, that this would be a totally different experience. If I didn't know that this is actually, not this particularly, but it has happened in the past where they genially put you on a train and take you somewhere to relocate you. Ian, wait until you find out what the communists did.

And hold on, too. There's a really great quote. What the Nazis did was legal. Yeah. What Schindler and other people did trying to protect Jews was illegal. What they did was against the law. What the United States did to the Japanese with the internment camps was legal. What the communists did, they all justify it.

So let's make sure we don't confuse legality with morality. Exactly. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, so I'm really excited for this evening because the talk about lockdowns again, talk about this new variant is really distressing. So hopefully we can find some kind of closure on that. But don't forget, head over to Timcast.com, become a member and you'll get access to exclusive members only segments of the Timcast IRL podcast, which we will have for you tonight around 11 or so p.m. You don't want to miss it. We usually go get a little rowdy, not so much family friendly because it's the after it's the after show. It's

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let's jump over that first story and get right into it joe biden be quiet i am i am offended that joe biden started talking right as i'm trying to start this segment. We're gonna mute that site. Get out of here, Joe. CNBC host suggests nationwide vaccine mandate. Have the military run it. I really love this story from the Hill because Jim Cramer didn't suggest anything. He demanded it. He didn't say maybe we, you know, we have a national vaccine mandate. No, he was literally like this is on the white house and biden everyone's got to do this and if you don't you go to court and try and prove your objector status and it's it's rather crazy i'll jump right to this we have this tweet here with this video i'll jump right to the end so you can hear him get to the having the military run this thing nobody wants to be the bad guy

he's the bad guy but back then anyone who refused to get vaccinated would get ratted out immediately because we knew that person could hurt other people. The commonweal was a commonweal. Now we're engaged in a similar struggle with COVID. What was that? He needs to breathe. No, the way he's slurring his speech, I'm actually wondering. Massive throat and neck tension.

Oh, that's true, too. That's true, too. Let's play it. Eisenhower would's true, too. That's true, too. Let's play it. Eisenhower would be aghast. We have immunocompromised people who are incubators for every variant to come walking around lawfully unvaccinated. That's psychotic. We have companies that have tried hard to get people vaccinated now backing down. We have governors who want to be president by grandstanding on a foolish state's right issue, the right to get sick, get other people sick. So it's time to admit that we have to go to war against COVID. Require vaccination universally.

Have the military run it. If you don't want to get vaccinated, you better be ready to prove your conscientious objector status in court. You know, I got to say, he's he's slurring pretty crazy yeah like that i mean totally as an aside like i'm not trying to say this disrespectfully that that weird circular wheel what was he saying i don't know compared to two years ago that you're totally right i watched him in a long time and he's why he's reading a teleprompter but the way he said object or it i feel like i gotta be honest i thought he was having a stroke no joke no joke like the way he started slurring and like losing it but anyway to the point of his politics a bunch

of crazy stuff we'll have the military run it oh you're just thrown out there we just have the military take control and go marshall like it's crazy the casualty that he uh spoke with there and and it makes absolutely no sense by the, like segregating between unvaccinated and vaccinated when we know that there are several studies showing that the vaccine efficacy lasts about six, seven months against infection. And so after about six, seven months, a vaccinated person is just as likely to get infected and transmit COVID as an infected person, as an unvaccinated person. Several studies show this. So mandating the stuff makes no sense, because then you're going to have a group of people that has the same level of infection and transmission rates after a certain amount of months. So it's just a matter of buying us time. So yeah, so I mean, obviously, we've been talking about boosters for a long time. And it's weird because you have, like, there was a period where if you said the efficacy was waning, you'd get banned on social media.

Dave Rubin being a great example where he tweeted out, you know, it's not working the way they promised, and sooner or later, they're going to call for boosters. And he got suspended on Twitter for it. And now, sure enough, they've already been saying, I think in Israel, they're on shot number five. Yeah, shot number five, which needs to be mandated a part of their digital vaccine passport social credit score system that they implemented in that country, which is absolutely absurd. Jim Cramer here just proved how much of an establishment hack he is. He's a bare stern shill showing off his best bootlicking on national television, which is embarrassing for this country. I mean, he went full commie. It's psychotic behavior. He wants to throw people in jail, in court, and have the military men who are used to fighting armies force people to take a medication that

might not be right for them, that might hurt them, that some medical professionals are telling some individuals based on their own medical history that they can't take. I mean, are you freaking kidding me? And again, Jim Cramer, maybe, I don't know, maybe he was trying to boost up a big pharma stocks by doing this. I don't know what he was thinking, but I don't trust this man's financial advice, especially when it came to Bear Stearns. I didn't trust his financial advice when it came to Bitcoin. When he announced he sold most of his Bitcoin on June 21st of this year, Bitcoin was about $32,000. Bitcoin right now is about $57,000. So his financial advice hasn't been there.

His social critique and political involvement now is full fascistic and as dangerous as it is stupid, in my opinion. Maybe you're right. I mean, so Jim Cramer's show is like stock show. He talks about finances. We got the story from Barron's. This is from today.

Moderna stock tanks after losing a patent dispute. Here's what comes next. I don't really care what comes next. Moderna dropped 10%. Now, this is today. That speech he gave was from Monday. But maybe you're a guy who's talking finance maybe you're a guy who gives bad advice and maybe you use your show to try and push and pump and dump and things

like that i'm not saying he does but i mean it's possible yeah well the moderna stock went down because the ceo came out a few days ago and said that the vaccine doesn't have that good effectiveness when it comes to this new omnicron variant allegedly and as soon as he said that the vaccine doesn't have that good effectiveness when it comes to this new Omicron variant, allegedly. And as soon as he said that, the stocks go down. He soon came after that statement and made another statement saying that we need double booster shots in order to successfully fight this new Omicron variant, which just appeared in the United States

from a fully vaccinated person in San Francisco, California. Okay, well, hold on. You're jumping the gun here, Luke. You're jumping the gun. Barron's is reporting the stock fell because a federal circuit court of appeals, a panel of three judges, upheld a ruling against the biotech company in a decision on patents that Arbutus Biopharma said it owns. The patents in question regard lipid nanoparticles, which are used to deliver mRNA to sell safely, which basically means if you've got stock in Moderna, they don't own the rights to that product. And I can only imagine they're going to have to pay out some kind of portion of their revenue to the rights holder on this regard. Yeah, that plus two judges now ruling against Biden's vaccine mandate, plus his latest statements, all, of course, are having a kind of crescendo moment. And also with the Federal Reserve screaming, saying, hey, this is going to hurt us financially with this new variant.

No, no, no, no, no, no. The Federal Reserve printing money out of thin air is going to hurt us financially as they're the ones causing inflation, as they're the ones causing the larger economic problems. And they're trying to blame it on this new variant, Omicron variant, which, again, we're still learning about all the details. Omicron? Whatever. Is that Joe Biden's version? Yeah.

Are you choosing Joe Biden's version? Yes. I like that version. Yes. What the president says is gospel, and we should always trust and believe him no matter what. I would love to rename it to Omicron. That's great.

Let's just call it Omicron. We might as well. I mean, Biden's the authority on this, isn't he? Yeah. He's the master. He's not a withered husk of a former of a former self. No, he's the president. Yeah.

He doesn't have metal stints inside of his brain holding up major blood clots. You know, this idea, by the way, that new variants are going to come and they're going to lead to more booster shots was considered to be absolute conspiracy at the beginning of the pandemic. It was this is a two shot vaccine. And I don't know if you guys saw on Twitter, Eric Topol, the big medical expert that the left often uses as somebody who's reliable for this information. He came out yesterday with a tweet saying this is a three shot vaccine. And he's considered like one of the biggest, most reliable experts on vaccines. There's one story I was looking at recently, by the way, which shows how ineffective vaccines are against infection. The Ottawa Senators and NHL hockey team, 100% vaccination rate, and now 40% of the team just tested positive for COVID.

So the issue is, are we dealing with variants that the vaccines struggle to deal with? I've heard varying opinions. I have heard that because of Delta and Omicron that these are new variants and the vaccine have a limited coverage for the various pathogens that they attempt to protect against. I have no idea how the biological mechanism works, but it's absolutely objectively true that the protection against infection is completely short-lived. It's only a few months. Well, let's make sure we have that distinction, right? So to say the vaccines aren't working, well, hold on. The issue is they don't work long enough. Yes. And that's not, I'm going to say, oh no, they work forever. Go talk to your

doctor because they work forever. I'm kidding, by the way. My point is, if you have all of the mainstream media coming out and saying the efficacy is waning and now you need three shots, a booster is your fourth shot. It's Fauci. It's the Moderna CEOs, the guys who are saying you need more boosters. Not us. The narrative that they are pushing in that capacity then is breaking confidence in the efficacy of the vaccines.

So what I said, you know, when we saw LeBron James, a double vax gets COVID. New York Daily News wrote in the first sentence, not even the king is immune to COVID-19. And I was like, what? He was vaccinated. So when they said that it was a really weird cognitive dissonance, I think for regular people, because people call people call vaccines immunization, right? They would be like, did you get immunized from, you know, this or whatever? Or did you go they would be like did you get immunized from you know this or whatever or did you go to you got to get you got immunized from yellow fever when i went and got my vaccines for going to venezuela they said it was getting immunized it was synonymous yeah yeah and and maybe it's a colloquial thing like oh we don't think it's a guarantee it'll prevent yellow fever or hep or something like that but if lebron james got

the vaccine as he was supposed to do it and he still gets it and dan bongino gets the vaccine as he was supposed to do it, and he still gets it. And Dan Bongino gets the vaccine because he had lymphoma, and then he still gets it. The problem is all of your data goes out the window. This is why I'm always just like, go talk to a doctor, man. I don't want liability from anybody making decisions off of, you know, I'm not going to give advice on this. But the issue then is people will be bewildered. What are you supposed to do when you have a new story coming out? Literally, LeBron James fully vaxxed, gets COVID. Dan Bongino fully vaxxed, gets COVID. Who are the politicians who got it and they were fully vaxxed? We keep having these high profile stories. And as you pointed out, would you say 40% of the NHL? 40% of the Ottawa Senators, a top NHL team,

just tested positive for COVID, even though 100% of the team is vaccinated. And if you talk to top medical experts, like in my writing, when I talk about COVID, even though 100% of the team is vaccinated. And if you talk to top medical experts, like in my writing, when I talk about COVID, I have to be very careful. Like when I try to publish stuff, if I don't back it up with expert opinion, with trained experts, then it becomes an issue. But it's worth mentioning, by the way, when we're talking about vaccines, that the protection against death remains durable after several months. It's the protection against death remains durable after several months. It's the protection against infection that is very short-lived. Well, still, there's a lot of the science that we haven't figured out, and there's a lot of different political beliefs.

But when we have large medical institutions, along with Dr. Fauci, coming out from the very beginning of this and saying, 100% safe and effective, just do this one time and everything will go back to normal. That doesn't build trust. That doesn't build anyone who's going to willingly now be like, okay, yeah, sure. I'll believe you this time or this time. And they did it to themselves. They created a situation where it's very hard to believe anything coming out of their mouth because it keeps changing. And if it does, you have to admit it's changed. You have to take accountability. You have to take responsibility for your words.

And they haven't been doing any of that. Dr. Fauci is afraid of doing any kind of interviews with anyone who even views any kind of different political circumstance differently than he does. And if he's the nation's doctor, he's not supposed to be political, but he's been political from the very beginning. He was saying Black Lives Matter protests are great. Anti-lockdown protests bad. They're causing the spread. Black Lives Matter protests are the ones that are slowing the spread. And again, you can't have both. And they've

been changing the definitions of vaccines. They've been changing the definitions of herd immunity. And I think it's important for all of us to admit we don't know what's going on here. I'm not a medical professional. I'm not a medical doctor. I'm not a medical doctor. We're not here giving medical advice. But at the same time, we're here to tell you everyone who's telling you that they know exactly what's happening here is full of crap. I think that's a great point. What I said – I've said this before and I'll say it again. I'm not a scientist.

I'm not a doctor. I can't give you advice on that. But I am an expert in freedom. And I think one of the issues that we fall into is we have to be careful. There should not be government-mandated medical procedures. That's about it. And you want to come to me and say, Jim Cramer, he's like, oh, but we have this reason and that reason. I'm like, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh.

Government ain't going to tell me what medical procedures I got to have. Because you have to think about what it means philosophically if we move to a point where the government can mandate any of this by force. Okay. Well, you know, um, people who have Neuralink cybernetic implants have an advantage. Ah, here's a better one. People who have the Vera chip implant. Well, it's safer because when they get stopped by police, the police don't have to search for ID. When they get pulled over their IDs, right with them. We will reduce crime and end the crime pandemic if everyone just gets their Verichip. Get that chip injected into your hand. What happens when a criminal gets stopped and he gives a false name? Crime gets worse. We can't give the government the ability to just say, here's the medical procedure you have to undergo because it's going to help make you safer or save lives. That's it.

One of the worst examples of this, by the way, recently, I don't know if you heard about this, 44,000 students in L.A. are about to lose their right to have in-person education because they missed the vaccine deadline. Yeah, in Los Angeles, the L.A. Times reported on this. 44,000 students now are about to move to online schooling only because they didn't get vaccinated. That sounds like a great reset, Stopping people from going in person. And let's talk about, okay, so this is where we are in the United States with Jim Cramer saying we want, he wants the military to enforce us. Let's talk about what that'll look like.

And the biggest thing you need to be worried about, my friends, are the propagandists. I can only tell you this. We use a wonderful little product called NewsGuard. And I've been criticized for using it because, who funds it, Luke? Bill Gates. Bill Gates! Oh, heavens! Bill Gates provides funding. It's through

Microsoft, right? Or is it him directly? I'm not sure. I don't know. I think it's Microsoft. So I use this on purpose as sort of to make a point. If I use a news source that makes a claim and then I highlight that claim and you accuse me of being fake news, I just say, oh, don't look at me. Ask Bill Gates. Right.

Oh, are they the conspiracy theorists now? Here's a story we have from The Guardian. Northern Territory police arrest three people who escaped from Howard Springs COVID quarantine facility. Trio allegedly jumped the fence at the open air center near Darwin early on Wednesday. You want to know what the best part is? Do you know what the name of the Howard? Do you know what type of facility the Howard Springs facility is? No, no, give me the exact statement.

Don't know. Hyperbole. Literally, what is the Howard Springs facility? Anybody? Summer camp? Literal. Not made up. Come on.

Come on. Come on. What has the Australian government called it? You guys don't know this? No. Nope. No. They call it a quarantine camp.

I didn't think that was very difficult, but I guess you guys didn't know. I don't know. They're now calling it the Center for National Resilience. What? Police and staff at the Center for National Resilience. Oh, I'm sorry. That's probably, I probably got that wrong. Okay.

That's probably just where they're doing the investigation from. The police and staff at the Center for National Resilience are currently confirming the absconders' identities prior to releasing further information. They say it's a large open-air facility for quarantining people. The alleged escape. The absconders. So there are people being brought to these facilities. Voluntarily?

Is it voluntary? Do we know? Well, they're not able to leave voluntarily, apparently. It doesn't look voluntarily. If they have to escape, then there's not a voluntary exit strategy. Well, that I know of. So let's get into the propagandists. This one's a little too personal for me.

I've been harping on this for a minute, but I want to make this very concise for you guys so you can understand what's going on in Australia. I have these series of tweets that break down what's happening in Australia very simply. I said, don't forget, if the chief minister says you can't leave your home even to get food. Thanks the army for their trucks used to transport COVID suspects and you get arrested if you try to leave the camp. Jesse Singel and Quillette say it's a conspiracy theory. So here we go. Here's one article. Under that lockdown, residents could only leave home for five reasons, including essential shopping, essential work, providing or receiving care, exercise and obtaining medical treatment.

Gunner has announced Benjari and Rockhole residents now cannot leave their homes unless for medical reasons or an emergency. That means you can't leave for food. We have this from Gravian. Chief Minister Gunner. The army is now transferring positive covid cases and contacts in Northern Territory, Australia to quarantine camps by army trucks. And finally, anti-police arrest three people who escaped from Howard Springs COVID quarantine facility.

The propaganda and those supporting the state narrative in this regard is probably the scariest thing to me because what ended up happening today was Jesse Singel wrote this entirely fabricated story about me claiming that I was like a conspiracy theorist or something based on my tweets, literally quoting abc.net.au, which is to say 38 people were transported by army truck to the quarantine facilities. I never said by with guns drawn or by force or anything like that. He then writes this big article that's completely fake, seemingly just to kind of discredit me. Now, of course, I know that's personal and I take an emotional issue with it.

But I decided to put together these three sources, which I included the links to all of these stories on Twitter. And surprise, surprise, many people didn't know this was real. So a lot of people engaging in the Twitter spat I had with Jesse see these three stories, and their response immediately was, no way that's real. Because if you read these propaganda stories from like Quillette or Jesse, you'd think I made it up. When in fact, it's all NewsGuard certified sources. In Australia, they have police and military setting up checkpoints and locking down people in their homes. The chief minister has said you cannot leave your home for these reasons, for the normal lockdown reasons, meaning no food.

He then said, I'd like to thank the prime minister for the ADF personnel and army trucks to transport the COVID cases and the suspected cases and close contacts to the Howard Springs facility. All of that was said from his mouth. I feel like Coulette is kind of going the way of the mainstream media, which is a little bit troubling. And I think it's a really good reminder that we need to be incredibly critical of all of our sources, even if we think that they're mostly or some percentage in agreement with us ideologically. It's also pretty terrifying what's happening in Australia, where the government previously disarmed the citizenry. Very interestingly, no one's really bringing up how gun confiscation worked really well in Australia anymore.

I remember hearing about that a few months ago. I don't hear about that right now. Ain't nobody in Australia would take up arms against what's going on. Probably, but still, I think it's a factor worth considering here. But when it came to these three escapees, I remember seeing a news report showing how police officers were closing down roads and inspecting every single vehicle, searching everyone's cars to make sure that no one was hiding, trying to make these people get away from the larger area. So they caught these people. But this is, again, absolutely huge powers that the government is granting itself in the name of a tragedy that, of course, has historically gone down with people exploiting really bad events for their own personal powers.

And the powers that they have in Australia. I mean, the authorities there have rushed through laws that give them the ability to control people's social media accounts, to hack their accounts, to see everything that they're doing, to deny them the ability to be able to walk into businesses, heavy fines for not wearing a mask, heavy fines for going to protests, jail time for people organizing protests. And when you're seeing human rights eviscerated to such extent where you can't even voice an opinion against the government without having the government knocking on your door saying, we want to control your social media. We now have the ability to post as you when we want. We have the ability to know every little detail about your life. That is a dangerous power that you have given the government that, of course, it routinely, historically always abuses.

I want to give a special shout out to Quillette and to Jesse Singleton, too, because if there's one thing they accomplished in making up fake stories about me or lying, is that they've just gotten me to cover the issue in greater detail more and more. I love it. So, I mean, look, it was initially I tweeted concentration camp in reference to Howard Springs as kind of like a jokey trolly thing. And Claire decided to go nuts on it. So I doubled down. And now we're at the point where I've covered this in great detail and it's only getting worse.

Now there's manhunts for people who are escaping from this quarantine facility. And Jesse decides to write a completely fabricated narrative about me based on a tweet without doing any research. That's the funniest thing about it. And in turn, I obviously get mad about it. And then we cover the story in greater detail. Once again, simplifying that in Australiaia they are rounding people up with the assistance of the military and the chief minister is thanking them for the assistance sending them to a camp where they're trying to escape do you think is claire in australia right now yes she is so is she in a position now where she got online was like you're right tim what the government's doing here is horrible we need to do it would that they they come knocking on her door? Yeah, probably. Yeah, of course. I mean, there's incredible videos showing police officers showing up at people's doors,

banging, demanding, saying, did you post this on the Internet? Were you here at this protest? Did you dare have a voice against the state? Intimidating people, harassing people, not just protesters, journalists. Like, what's his name? Yemi. I forgot. I forgot.

Hami. Yeah, yeah. Avi. Avi. Avi's been doing really incredible work. He had police show up at his door. He's routinely detained for even trying to report on these protests as an official member of the press. So when you know intimidation of of journalism when you have the suppression of people's voices when you have the suppression of protests when you have the

suppressions of people's speech you have a situation that is absolutely orwellian destructive dangerous and the opposite of anything progressive that anyone could even imagine you want to know what the best part is about these three people who escaped? They were teenagers and they had tested negative. The Australian government took three teenagers from the Benjari community, brought them to a quarantine facility when they were negative for COVID, tested

them, they were negative, and then when these three teens escaped, the police were sent out to investigate, hunt them down, and arrest them. Set up roadblocks. Set up roadblocks. Why are they there, though, if they're negative? Yeah. They were near someone.

I have to wonder about the Australian government bringing people without COVID to a quarantine camp where they're not allowed to leave. And then you have to imagine these teenagers are probably thinking, I don't want to get COVID. Yeah. And they're like, you're negative. They're like, good, let me go. No. Wait, were they positive maybe first and then they were negative? So it's possible. But the minister said close contacts. good let me go no wait were they positive maybe first and then they were negative so what the

it's possible but the minister said close contacts so that means like right okay well you know we got uh you know my brother's downstairs you are officially a close contact they'd come to your house and arrest you and be like well you know you were a close contact with this person you might be like i didn't see that person i know what you're talking about too bad the best part about it is how they say they're not doing it by force. And now you have all of these, I swear, look, people need to understand. It's a known fact that governments use sock puppetry on social media, the bot accounts. I'm not saying every person's a bot, but they do, they do this. And it's funny to see the propagandist coming out and tweeting. It's been confirmed that people are not being

taken by force. And I'm'm like are you kidding then why are they escaping like they're they're voluntarily showing up and then trying to break out that makes literally no sense more importantly they voluntarily voluntarily show up but can't voluntarily leave how about we'll just call it that okay the australian government is offering free rides and army trucks to the quarantine facility where people aren't allowed to leave by threat of arrest do you is that it is are we good now do you think it's possible they just don't tell them that they can't leave once they get there and are they maybe misleading that's definitely possible i think it is completely unreasonable to make the argument that when the minister comes out and says you

can't leave your house to eat and we're going to take people with by army truck to quarantine facilities where they will be arrested if they escape the idea that they were voluntarily going to this place is absurd you know what i don't like is the way the australian police interact with the citizenry like gorillas attacking like a wounded lamb like they just walk up on people no fear like their arms are out like they're about to grapple so like they're not afraid of getting shot in the chest because they've disarmed the populace. And they just like stumble towards humans and like use their mass to like squeeze them. It's disgusting.

One question I have about the Australian camps is are vaccinated people able to get into these camps? Do they detain those people too? Yeah, probably for sure. If they test negative. Yeah. Or if they're a suspect. Or a positive. So one of the big

things too and we'll get into this in a little in just a second is that um there's new travel restrictions where uh biden wants to implement them that no matter your vaccination status if you travel into the country you've got to quarantine for a week you've got to have a negative test before traveling and all of these like i don't know what's uh what's the word for for the zealots all of these like hardcore government mandate't know, what's the word for the zealots? All of these like hardcore government mandate zealots are like, what do you mean? I've got to take a test in quarantine. I'm double vaxxed.

And one guy tweeted like, I'm double vaxxed and boosted. I refuse to be treated like these dewormer people. It's like, what did you think was going to happen? Bro, get your subscription now. Promo code Fauci Ouchie to your monthly vaccine booster like i think if people want if people are concerned about their health you go and talk to a doctor about it i think covet is very very serious i got it and boy was it bad but i think the problem is they keep trying to centralize everything they keep trying to say we have an

idea this one thing will solve the problem when in reality it's going to be a multi-faceted approach that solves this it's not polio this jim cramer guy acted like it's polio like like we're dealing with polio any any and then he was like so he said polio is horrible polio is horrible so we need to use vaccines against covid like complete non-sequitur irrelevance also other vaccines for polio and smallpox they took years to get mandated. Wasn't it 15 plus years? Some were like five or six years. Others were like 15 years, but never before has it been right away as it has been with COVID.

So they didn't rush out a vaccine for smallpox? No, no. And there's also the danger of rushing something that will have an effect that, of course, will stop the natural progression of a virus and potentially even make it worse that's what some scientists are speculating right now that this intervention could actually cause to a worse situation another different variant that could hurt the world even more which if you're thinking about how the state has been using this problem to help their friends to conduct the largest transfer of wealth and recorded human history to empower themselves with godlike authority over the population i would think that they would have an interest in making this situation worse

personally myself but that is just my own perspective my own personal opinion some scientists are speculating this as well but again the data the science it still all coming in. It still really hasn't been figured out. But to jump to conclusions, to say we need authoritarianism, we need tyranny to solve this problem is absolutely ridiculous. It's a stupid idea. And it's an idea that Joe Rogan argued recently is hurting more people than actually helping more people. And I think that argument has a lot of merit to it. I'm still surprised how many people say that the vaccines are a way to end the pandemic, that they stop the spread of COVID.

So many people still say that. It's like, no, no, it's mainstream science that that's not the case, that it slows the spread temporarily. That's the most accurate way to say it. We've got – let me see if I can pull this – let me see if I can find this. Here we go. We got this story from Sky News. Omicron variant highly infectious and booster jabs may need double dose, says Moderna CEO.

It is an official Big Pharma narrative, Sky News, that you will need to get a double dose of the booster because of the new variant. So there's a slowing the spread, I guess, but there's no stopping it if this is our plan of action. And you've got a mainstream narrative from a lot of these people. It's like you mentioned earlier, Luke. They say, just get the first shot and then we're good. Everyone will be fine. They said in New York City, the mandate was one shot at least. Now it's like, know, they're saying, okay, well, now you get, then it was get two doses for fully vaccinated. Then they said, we got to get your booster. Now they're saying, no, no, no. The third shot is not a booster.

It's a normal part of the whole vaccine process. And now imagine this, imagine you got three shots already and they're saying that's not a booster. The CEO of Moderna is now saying you will need two more shots because of Omicron. It's like a rainmaker selling umbrellas. That's my personal perspective on it. But again, we have to understand who does this kind of benefit here? Where's the accountability?

Where's the oversight? Where's people saying, hey, let's actually take a look at this and let's maybe see if some people are maybe motivated more by profit than they are about general health. And if we are interested in general health, shouldn't we have conversations about obesity? Shouldn't we have conversations about diet? And if you want to have a totalitarian response to this, sure. But if you're going to be attacking anyone,

it should be maybe KFC, McDonald's, Burger King, especially if you're caring about people's health. But again, it's ridiculous to even think about it that way. And again, people's health is important. And the discussions about exercise, vitamin D, getting proper sleep, not being stressed out, making sure that you're living a life that is a healthy, happy one rather than just a wage slave one where you're indoctrinated by just horrible ideas and horrible foods that go into your system and make you a crappy,

unhealthy, unhappy person. You know, if we want to start those conversations, we should have them. And I think we would have a far better effect at helping people when it comes to making people healthier than we would by just giving all of our full faith to big pharma because as we know they're treated like our overlords right now i'm not surprised that this ceo of a pharmaceutical company is suggesting that his vaccine is the is the way to go forward no no no no i'm not surprised that he's saying you actually need to yeah okay i'm a window maker and have you considered putting two windows in the same right the people when there's a health crisis you don't want to be looking to your pharmaceutical

ceos for the the way forward necessarily we sound like such leftists these big corporations are just trying to turn a profit exploiting the health crisis and we should yeah i mean they were ready to go on this thing yeah where where where are the uh this is this is the problem i have with like the left is that when we refer to the left we are quite literally referring to leftist populists and the establishment because for whatever reason they're aligned on this one you take a look at the most prominent personalities they have and they agree on all this stuff and i'm like yo how come you guys are pro-Big Pharma now? Maybe it's because, quite simply, the new generation of leftists, they were teenagers 10 years ago. So when the Occupy Wall Street types were out there saying like Big Pharma is bad, those people are now in their mid to late 30s.

And these 20-something-year-olds who are on YouTube and pushing this politics of the far left were born into a world where Big Pharma is actually good. Martin Shkrekreli awesome guy apparently i guess that's their position okay sure and and the record of some of these companies record fines bribing doctors bribing regulate regulators buying off corporate media i can name a lot of individuals i can name a lot of multinational corporations that of course were guilty of this but but they have a criminal past. They're liable for causing real-life human harm before. And for people just to give them a past, a blind trust because there's a tragedy that's being exploited here is something that is worrying personally myself that I am concerned about from my own personal perspective.

Also, the way that they're funding research too. Like I was listening to this one cardiologist in the UK that Majeed Nawaz was interviewing. I don't know if you've seen his content lately. Majeed on Twitter, he's been great on this. And the cardiologist was saying that 66% of academic research done on medical issues is funded by drug companies. So that creates a huge bias.

So a number of researchers are unable to publish certain kind of research that goes against the efficacy of a certain drug that can lead to, I think Joe was pointing out recently on his podcast, Joe Rogan,

several drugs, dozens of drugs that have been pulled off the market that were initially approved and led to so many excess deaths and injuries. And that was because the studies that were done

that showed the efficacy were tainted by this influence from the drug industry. And it led to so many deaths and injuries. injuries and then and that was because the studies that were done that showed the efficacy were tainted by this influence from the drug industry and it led to so many deaths and injuries i mean ever you guys have seen the brought to you by moderna montage oh yeah oh yeah cnn's new day brought to you by pfizer and that shows like all the media saying that yeah man when you have commercials it's i think the united states is one of only, I think, like two countries that allow commercials for drugs. It's insidious. And the best part about it, I love this, is that they don't tell you what the drugs do.

Flornostrin, call your doctor to see if it's right for you. Like, they won't tell you what it is, but they want you to buy it. Yeah, they'll show, like, an old woman and man dancing in the field in slow motion. This could be you if you just take our drugs. Restless leg syndrome? We have a solution. And then side effects include... Eat the food that our other

company sells you. Take our medicine that our other company sells you. Are you feeling stressed? Take this. It's a joke. People do sketches where it's like side effects may include explosive diarrhea. But I was actually... I saw an ad recently for some medication where they actually said... i verbally exclaimed in my living room when we were watching some show and it was like

get this treatment and the side effects include like bleeding heart or something it's like some ridiculous thing where it was like you know blood clots and you know deep vein thrombosis and other and like cardiac arrest and i was like why would you take that it was like do you have you know irritable bowel syndrome take this thing that can stop your heart and it's like i don't know maybe you just got to go to the bathroom and you know like because that side effects are crazy i don't know man but but you know what you know what far be it from me right if somebody's got some kind of you know disease and they're suffering and they say i'll take the risk if it makes my life better.

That's between them, their doctor. Ultimately, they make a choice about what's right for their life. Not commercials. You're right. The United States and New Zealand are the only countries in the world that allow drug advertising on commercials right now. And it's pretty much all you see, especially if you watch the corporate media. You just see pharma ad after pharma ad after pharma ad. Now, again, we also have to be intellectually honest here not all of big pharma's evil some of the stuff that they do

produce does really help people has revolutionized medicine and has changed people lives for the better we have to admit that on a certain level but there is a very sinister nasty disgusting element of it that literally profits off of human suffering rather cures the symptoms than the cause and is knowingly making money hiding real cures because of someone sitting at an office saying i prefer money over human life we saw that with the opioid epidemic we saw that with institutions in this country being bought out by big pharma that literally turned a huge portion of this country into heroin addicts knowingly because of big money and when you have that much of power that much influence that much harm caused by this industry i'm sorry you you don't have my faith you don't

have my personal belief system in you you don't i'm not going to give you the benefit of the doubt you don't deserve it okay bernie bro it. It's true. And then you got the prison industrial complex saying these working class family men who lost their jobs to the factories being shipped overseas, who then got hooked on opioids, should go to prison for it. And the police with smiles on their faces kicking the doors of the victims, working class people in this country, and send them to jail. Yep. Yeah, the whole system but you know the problem is yo i can see it right luke can see it we can all see it big pharmaceutical companies exploiting a crisis exploiting pain pumping opioids into this country the the policies of the of the democratic and republican establishment extracting factories and jobs

from this country overseas to make a quick buck and the prison industrial complex and we can all see it and then the only thing we get is the left saying communism is the answer more government more police officers yeah more money for big pharma more money for the big prison industries more government intervention in our daily lives which is insane i do support using the government's power to disrupt the monopoly of making pharmaceutical commercials legal i would like to the government to make them illegal like they did with the tobacco commercials in the 60s or whatever it was the 70s um that is maybe a little socialist in me but i think that there's a time and a place

heavy hammer of the government to prevent these private companies from taking over that's that's not socialist. That's something we can do reasonably as a community, as a country, as a nation, and be like, here's what we agree and don't agree on how these companies should function. I think regulations are fine. The problem is when they never get removed and they're outdated or broken in some ways. So what ends up happening is – Sunset clause. Exactly. We say, okay, we're going to try this out.

We're going to do a two-year ban on pharmaceutical commercials or something, and then we'll see how it happens. And then in two years, it sunsets, and then we'll have to re-vote for it or something like that. And all the politicians that got bribed for two years by the pharma industry so that when they vote next time, they'll make sure that – No, it'll naturally sunset. It'll just disappear. The law will just be gone. That is big problem you know the lobbying and all that stuff and and the promises there's no real way around it because they'll just be like look we can't give you anything but when you're out in two years we'll give you a high-paying job in in in the

company i just you know it's not socialist to say the prison industrial complex well actually it's it's anti-socialist or i should say the government subsidizes private prisons guaranteeing cost like contracts so you'll get a dude who is is hooked on opiates because he was prescribed it they get addicted where they're in extreme pain they don't get any more the doctor says no you're cut off and they become desperate they go through withdrawals and they could die from this and so then they they they you know they seek out non-legal methods for obtaining this to help themselves then they go to prison and the government says we got no issue with that private prison system here's somebody to throw into the machine and we will pay you for it and what's happening is our tax dollars are paying

for a broken machine that is not helping these people that is only incentivizing this. So I'll tell you this, that's not capitalism. That's more akin to communism and socialism than capitalism. The problem is, first of all, most conservatives don't talk about this. They don't seem to care. Private prisons is not a big issue for them. Trump wasn't interested in prison reform. But when the left brings it up they're like this is a problem of capitalism and i'm like what about the government taking the money from the people by force to fund these corrupt prison systems is capitalism and and creating absurd laws that put innocent people that didn't harm anyone behind jail in jail i mean that absolutely makes no sense i think a perfect meme that i saw that represents the larger ideas that you're trying to get across here, Tim,

was a protester screaming that we need more government, and then there was a full-on riot cop with pepper spray, pepper spraying her in the face, and then the pepper spray was more government, and she was getting all of it. Because, again, you look at this kind of reciprocal cycle. They create all these stupid laws that create victimless crimes that put people in jail when they shouldn't be there. They come out worse criminals. They come out destroyed. They come out without having their rights. They come out without a sense of decency. They come out in a situation where they can't even probably get a job in most places. It's not always

the case, but again, they create a situation that incentivizes some of the worst behavior in this world. And then we're asking ourselves, why do we have one of the largest prison populations? We wonder why. It's a big business and people profit off of it. Speaking of victimless crimes, brother, this morning I was looking at certain reports that were released from Austria showing that starting in February, people who don't take the vaccine might be incarcerated. Those are still preliminary reports, but we do know for sure there's going to be a $4,000 fine

starting in February for those people who don't get vaccinated. This is mainstream news, not conspiracy at all. It's incredible that they can exercise that much control. Across Europe, you're seeing that. Like in Slovenia, the small European country, they dabbled with the policy that people who were filling up on gas had to show their COVID certificate,

otherwise they couldn't get their gas. But then there was so much backlash that they backtracked afterwards. But looking at Austria, the Czech Republic, Lithuania, and I believe Berlin, Germany as well, are considering mandatory vaccination, otherwise paying fines or even incarceration. It's crazy. In the US in 1905, there was a Supreme Court ruling that stated you could find someone in your community if they don't get vaccinated. The fine was $5 at the time, the equivalent of about

$150, but that was it. That's the argument, the equivalent of equivalent of about $150. But that was it. That's the argument used by many of these leftists to say, see, we've always had vax mandates. And I'm like, yeah, I guess, but they were never able. My understanding is they weren't able to collect the money from him. That was the issue. He said, I ain't paying you. You can't do anything about it. So, I mean, sure, I guess you can argue you can find someone, but they can still say no. The ultimate issue was that they could try to compel you to do it, but ultimately could not force the needle into your arm. Now, the narrative from the left is like, we've always had vaccine mandates. What about schools? And it's like, you can choose not to go to the school. You can choose to move your kids. You can get a medical

exemption or religious exemption. Now they're outright saying like Jim Cramer, just have the military mandated. And in Australia, they're, look, I think it's fair to say the Australian press and all these people are lying through their teeth. And at this point, I would actually say that's, in my opinion, circumstantial evidence to suggest everything we think about what's going on in Australia is probably a lot worse than it is. They admit they arrest three teenagers

from escaping from the quarantine facility. Okay, if that's the case, and Claire Lehman and whoever else wants to argue that they're international arrival bungalows where people like hot babes are sunbathing, but then they'll also tell us you'll be arrested if you escape, I can only assume that it's substantially worse. They're probably just flogging people in their rooms. I'm kidding, by the way.

I really don't think they're doing that. But if we know they're lying about everything, why would I even just give them the benefit of the doubt in any capacity? So to me, this kind of smacks of an authoritarian government because i remember when covid first started my friend looked at the numbers and said oh this is coming out of china those numbers are 10 times what they're telling us and i was like yes absolutely so like what you're saying right now what australia is admitting to is going to be very much a pr stunt the fact that they're coming out and saying,

oh, no, people aren't being forced to do this or whatever, and sending all these awesome pictures of ladies in bikinis, it's very strange advertising for these camps, but it's like you're hiding something, you need to fess up, and they're never going to because they'll never be held to account, which is a little bit discouraging, but at least... The fact that there's a marketing campaign with women in bikinis in government quarantine camps is creepier than the fact that there wasn't...

It's just the hashtag, apparently. Yeah. But the fact that people are collecting these and making articles and making stories about this justifying this bigger power grab by government and not trying to hold the government accountable, not even talking about personal responsibility is absolutely worrying. And we're seeing a lot of crazy stuff happening in Europe. Greece just made the vaccine mandatory for everyone over the age of 60. It's pretty much mandatory in Italy already. It's pretty much mandatory in France, but it's not really implemented because people are not going along with it. But in Italy right now, you can't board a plane. You

can't board a bus. You can't board a bus. You can't board any kind of public transportation. You can't have any job, public or private, if you don't go through the government compliance and you get their approval and you get a paper saying, hey, I'm okay with being able to, you know, bow down to government. Then you could actually do all of those things, which is ridiculous. Let's bring it back from Europe and Australia to the United States. We have the story from the Huffington Post, excellent source of news. I'm being sarcastic, by the way. Fauci says Omicron, I'm sorry, Omnicron, may not be big deal, but US should prepare for the worst. He said the COVID-19 variant will inevitably come to the US if it's not already here and

warned that it's going to have an advantage in transmissibility it will never end he says this is a clarion call as far as i'm concerned of saying let's put aside all of these differences that we have and say if you're not vaccinated get vaccinated if you're fully vaccinated get boosted and get the children vaccinated also fauci director of NIAID, said that though there is still much that is unknown about Omicron, it's actually Omicron, but we're making fun of Joe Biden, just so you know. Vaccines offer a proven level of protection. Level, they say, a level of protection. Sure. But that's why he's saying get boosted because the efficacy has waned. And as we already mentioned in a previous segment, the Modernao says you got maybe got to get two so it will likely turn into more than that quote it may not be as good

as protecting against initial infection but it has a very important impact on diminishing the likelihood that you're going to get a severe outcome from it i don't know ask dan bongino he said he got a really bad you know reaction from it he's double vaxxed well here we go sf gate reports san francisco reports first U.S. Omicron case. Symptoms very mild. All right, very mild is good. But prepare for the worst, says Fauci. What's the worst?

Well, I can imagine for most people the worst would be a lockdown. Destroying your business. It's whatever each person wants to imagine. It's their own terror. It's their own fear. He's putting people in a state of fear. Prepare for the worst possible thing you can think of. The best fear that the government could have is the fear of the unknown.

And the more kind of unknown this is, the more people's imagination plays on the best of them, including the larger guilt trips, the emotional manipulation, the trauma-based mind control, I like to call it, is essentially what people are going through. Fauci, by the way, was also joined by Obama yesterday, and they did a surprise visit at a D.C. elementary school, and they were meeting students and encouraging them to get the vaccine and congratulating the children who did get the vaccine. Parents should be talking to doctors, and what irks me about this is that you can't give medical advice on YouTube.

Joe Rogan gets slammed in the media for saying his opinion on what he received. Joe Rogan does a video where he's like, here's the things I got. And they're like, and then I do a video. I'm like, here's what I got. Here's my thoughts. I'm like, and then they can come out and say, oh, yeah, we want to encourage you to take all of this stuff. We don't know your medical history or not, but we're going to encourage this particular treatment for you. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.

We don't play that game. You don't get to argue that you get to advertise your preferred medical treatment. And then everyone else who might bring up their opinion on it gets banned. End of the day, anybody who just blindly goes for any medical procedure without consulting a medical professional they trust. And perhaps even getting a second opinion is making a mistake in my opinion. Did you see what Bill de Blasio was saying to encourage kids to get vaccinated a couple months ago? A hundred bucks. Yeah, a hundred bucks.

And he was saying you can buy a lot of candy with it. You can buy lots. Jeez. It's such a creepy way. Look, look, look. By the way, with kids. Sorry. You want to go ahead?

No, no. I'm just going to come down right to it and say I don't – we need to stick to the freedom argument, personal liberty, individual choice. Because what's happening is, man, we're just slowly being pulled further and further into the mandates will happen no matter what. Because what happens is every day the media comes out with a new sensational fear-mongering story, a new thing that gets everybody who opposes the mandates arguing about that. We are being dragged leftward. And more commercials about the drugs. That's something I'm thinking about a lot. I'm worried most about young people right now with the vaccine, with mandating it.

And I mentioned the 44,000 kids in L.A. They're going to start mandating it in more and more schools. More and more kids are going to be kicked out and pushed to online learning where they're not going to have those real interactions that promote growth in all sorts of ways. But I've interviewed several experts about vaccinating young people, including Dr. Jay Bhattacharya at Stanford, Martin Kuldroff at Harvard, multiple doctors. And they say that the myocarditis signal in young people is especially concerning. According to CDC data, I gave Lydia the link also in the email, but according to CDC data, the risk is about 1 in 5,000 for young men, specifically in between the ages of like 12 to 20.

And so vaccinating, so 1 in 5,000 may seem like a small risk, but once you multiply that by millions of doses, then that adds up. And then you have, and this is no exaggeration, in my own city in Chilliwack, I've heard of three cases of young boys who after the vaccine had a seriously adverse reaction and were in the hospital because of cardiac arrest due to the vaccine. I'm not saying don't get the vaccine for your kid. Doctors that I trust say if your kid has obesity, you should consider it, or if they have cancer, things like that. When it comes to healthy young boys, though, a 1 in 5,000 risk is not trivial,

and we shouldn't be mandating it at all. I think this is what I want to get to again. It's like we shouldn't mandate anything. We shouldn't mandate chips. We shouldn't mandate vaccines. I'm not saying chips are happening. Calm down, media. But we have this story from the new york times we briefly showed the fda is assessing whether the moderna vaccine can cause heart problems in adolescents

they say the fda is reviewing reports suggesting the coronavirus vaccine made by moderna can cause heart problems in some adolescents the company said on sunday this is not conspiracy this is literally moderna saying we have these reports. The FDA needs to review this. Moderna requested authorization from the FDA for its use in the vaccine from children ages 12 to 17 in June. The adolescents would receive 100 micrograms of the vaccine, the same dose given to adults 18 and above. But the agency has not yet made a ruling on the application, prompting speculation about reasons for the delay. In a statement on Sunday, Moderna said the FDA requires additional time to evaluate recent international analyses of the risk of myocarditis after vaccination. Okay, so if Fauci and Obama want to go to kids

and say, go do this, and the FDA is literally like, we're going to review these reports, international reports about myocarditis. It is extremely irresponsible. And this is what pisses me off. I'm not going to recommend anything to anybody. But I certainly think it's fair to point out the New York Times has reported this. This is a month ago. They reported this. And the FDA is going to be evaluating these claims.

And these claims exist. Now, by all means, when you talk to your doctor, show them this and make sure you get sound advice. And if you don't trust your doctor, get a better doctor. But the idea that politicians are going to go out and advise people on medical procedures, to me, is just insane. And more importantly, as an expert on freedom, I don't care what you want to mandate. Freedom. There you go.

I have a right to my body, my autonomy. And we just had the Supreme Court. We probably should have highlighted this. Supreme Court's basically ending Roe v. Wade. This is the official narrative across the board from left-wing journalists to establishment corporate press that come June, Roe v. Wade will be done. And we'll talk about that in a second. And my attitude is, look, I don't like abortion used as contraception.

I don't like the idea in any capacity that a life is being destroyed. But I err on the side of the government ain't got no business in my medical decisions or others. And that means if somebody has a legitimate reason they have to undergo an abortion, I don't think they should have a certificate filled out or have to get approval from the government for a medical procedure their doctor recommends. But it should be through a private doctor. That being said, I feel the exact same way about all the mandates. What pisses me off is that we don't have that consistency among the left. When the right came out and said,

okay, my body, my choice, they said, you're liars. We don't believe you. Yeah. Also quickly, I want to say about the myocarditis risk. One of the interesting things is that the science doesn't change

in terms of risk of myocarditis from country to country, yet the policy is completely different. So in the US and in Canada, you have the, well, in Canada specifically, in terms of risk of myocarditis from country to country, yet the policy is completely different. So in the U.S. and in Canada, you have the – well, in Canada specifically, you have the policy where young people over the age of 12 in B.C. and in Ontario have to be vaccinated. Otherwise, they can't go and exercise to a gym. They can't go to a bar, restaurants, et cetera.

And starting yesterday, you can't leave Canada because of the vaccine mandates. But in other countries with young people, what they've done is, in many cases, they've suspended the Moderna vaccine because of the higher rates of myocarditis, as that piece was pointing out, by the way. I think I actually have this here. Sweden, Denmark, Finland, a number of other countries have paused Moderna. October 8th, CNBC, Nordic countries are restricting the use of Moderna's COVID vaccine. The decision to limit the use of Moderna vaccine centers around concerns it could be linked to cases of myocarditis.

So this is – Moderna recognizes it. The FDA is looking into it, Nordic countries. This is all fact and very – Also, they're finding that myocarditis is concentrated after the second dose in young men, not with the first as much. And because of that, countries like Hong Kong and the UK are only recommending one dose to young people. So think about that. Other countries who have their own legitimate health authorities are saying young people get one dose. But countries like Canada, you have to get two doses.

Otherwise, you can't go to the gym in L.A. If you're a young person, you have to get two doses. Otherwise, you're going to be kicked out of in-school learning. That's crazy. It's the same fucking science but totally different public policy. Sorry, was I – No, whatever, man. They do that with AIDS.

You were talking about a puck, right? Yeah. Canada, they have pucks. That's how AIDS is too. They can measure HIV, but then every country kind of has a different response to that, and that's what their AIDS thing. If you have pneumonia in a certain country and you have a high T cell count, it's considered AIDS in another country.

It shows why it's political. It's politicized, right? The science is not just one thing. You can base policies off of this science that's growing, by the way. I like how the left, like they view science as a very religious kind of system. Like science is supposed to be, you know, constantly evolving and updating as you see new information. Like this whole myocarditis risk was not known when the vaccines were initially released, right? But then we saw data from Israel coming out and Alex Berenson was talking about this and other people.

And they're like, no, no, that's conspiracy. Like heart inflammation? Come on. That's total bullshit. But then more and? Come on. That's sort of bullshit. But then more and more information came out and more and more studies. There's also stuff happening with menstrual bleeding in women after the vaccine. I don't know about that stuff, though. I looked into that.

I didn't find anything on that. Well, yeah, I know. I sent Lydia a link. Lydia, if you want to look at that, the menstrual bleeding. Can I say something about that issue specifically? So a friend of mine in July, um she's uh 17 or 18 she said her she had this horrible menstrual bleeding after the vaccine and i told her it's probably not the vaccine like come on it's probably something else right and then another young female friend

told me and then i heard about it from another one and then i started asking around and i i kid you not almost everywhere i asked among young females That's a weird thing to ask women, bro. Yeah, I know, I know. Quirks of being a reporter. Man, when reporting, how was your last cycle? But I've heard of at least 20 young girls, like girls who tell me like, yeah, all my friends, they had the same reaction, which is like crazy. And the NIH is actually funding research right now into looking at this specific risk with menstrual bleeding in women. And then also The Guardian and The New York Times have reported this, that in the U.K., in their adverse reporting system, they were inundated with reports of young women having this menstrual bleeding issue. So it is a real thing that is being investigated.

Therefore, another reason why mandates are stupid and we should be— And rushing vaccines have a risk. We always have to make sure we consider what I refer to as the scaling problem, that as a system grows larger, the tolerance for error grows smaller. So if you give out 100 vaccines and one person has an adverse reaction, nobody cares. Oh, I heard Jim had a weird reaction. Oh, just Jim, huh? No problem. But that's 1%. You give out 100 million vaccines. Now

you have a million people all talking about these stories. And everyone's like, what's happening? A million people had this same percentage of error. As the system grows larger, our tolerance for error diminishes proportionally. So what may be happening is that a lot of people are like, look at VAERS. The numbers are through the roof for adverse events. And I'm like, yeah, we also haven't had mass scale vaccinations globally or in the country like this too. So make sure you're looking at margins and not hard numbers. It would be like looking at New York City and being like, wow, they had 10,000 muggings. That's the highest in the nation. And then being like, yeah, but per 100,000 people, they have substantially less muggings. New York's

got like 10 million people in the metro. Then you can look at these like small towns where per capita they have like 50 muggings. Like in West Virginia, they have seriously high crime but very low population. So you'll get like 50 stories about muggings and you won't think twice about it. And then in New York, you have everyone you know has been mugged. It makes you think it's worse than it really is. So it's important to look at the denominator denominator especially exactly just the numerator when i am i am not saying ignore the data i'm not saying ignore this i'm saying literally take all of this

do research seriously ignore the mainstream media when they're like don't do your own research no no do your own research make sure you have have trust in yourself and your knowledge bring it to a doctor You don't trust them you get a second opinion But make sure you know what you're putting in your body because i'll tell you this If you just go to someone and say tell me what to do and I don't care i'm not going to think twice I think it's a bad idea. I think you have a responsibility for your health And I also think you have a responsibility to seek out experts, which is your medical professionals and find someone you trust But it's a combination of things man and all the liabilities on you here um the people who produced it the people who forced you to take it your

business your boss your government is not responsible they have no liability here at all if something goes wrong and there have been stories of a lot of people who've had problems and again uh you know correlation does not prove causation we need to be intellectually honest here uh there's a lot of things that are still unknown here but a lot of people who had complications correlation does not prove causation. We need to be intellectually honest here. There's a lot of things that are still unknown here, but a lot of people who had complications were left with huge medical bills because they had to pay for all the problems and consequences that led up to this decision

that was essentially forced onto them. And when that happens, you're making the decision that you're going to be responsible for no matter what happens, and no one's going to bail you out. All right right now we're going to get into the portion of the show that i saved for near the end because i knew it would consume probably the rest of this show would be like whenever we talk about roe v wade or abortion it like turns into this major long conversation

and so i was like if we open with this it's going to be an hour of debating abortion so i don't know maybe we should have it, it's going to be an hour of debating abortion. So I don't know. Maybe we should have. It's the bigger news here. But ladies and gentlemen, from CNBC, Supreme Court conservatives look ready to gut Roe v. Wade during arguments in Mississippi abortion case. It was today. Mississippi wants to ban abortions after 15 weeks.

And the Supreme Court heard oral arguments. And boy, did the left have almost no argument. Look, you guys know me. I'm pro-choice. I am not pro-abortion. The modern left, in my opinion, is pro-abortion, not pro-choice. And pro-choice is few and far between if it exists at all. I think the pro-choice individuals have more in common with pro-lifers, but they do disagree. I heard some of the arguments. You could listen to it. Chief Justice Roberts made excellent points, and he did compare the US to other countries, and he still made good points. The left seemingly had no real argument, and it got to the point where a reporter from

Slate tweeted, the arguments are in. The Supreme Court will overturn Roe v. Wade in June 2022. He then deleted the tweet and said too many people thought it was a statement of fact. He's like, what I'm saying is it's a prediction. These are leftist reporters. The NBC News tweeted, it appears the conservatives are going to repeal something. I'm paraphrasing repeal or strike down Roe v. Wade. There are 12 states with what's called trigger laws, which means as soon as Roe v. Wade is There are 12 states with what's called trigger laws, which means as soon as Roe v. Wade is overturned, they instantly go into effect.

They've already been passed and abortion will be immediately banned. It is believed that many more states will then ban abortion and you will have blue states that allow it, red states that don't. The Supreme,

I'm trying to say it again. We don't know what's going to happen. It might not. But based on what these, the justices were arguing, Kavanaugh, man, he hit it out of the park and I have to agree with him. He said you have, like he based, I'll paraphrase. You haven't presented an argument as to why this is an issue for the Supreme Court. This sounds like something Congress needs to address. And I'm like, he's

right. The Supreme Court shouldn't be deciding whether something is banned or not banned. Congress needs to pass laws legislating this stuff on that alone. And also listening to the argument from the solicitor general who is like defending Roe v. wade she was just saying like the right to abortion is in the 14th amendment and and and i think it was um clarence thomas was like what i can read the second amendment that says something i i can't i don't know what where what you're getting at with that so so yeah this uh this seems like the end i know lu Luke was celebrating earlier. I don't know about that. I saw some weird videos on Twitter today of women taking, I think it was abortion pills. Claiming to, yeah.

Claiming to or doing it. I don't know. But it's such a complicated debate. There's so much emotion involved in this. And I don't think people celebrating abortions is something that is tasteful, to say the least. It's something that was very concerning to see. And, you know, there's different aspects. There's different places where you could be on the spectrum here. And there's, of course, people arguing that if you do take an abortion, you are killing a life.

And therefore, you are trampling on somebody else's life. So that's where the argument gets complicated. All right, Luke, so what's your position? I honestly want to do more research into this. I don't want to make a conclusion because it's a question that's very difficult to answer. And not having done enough research on it, I don't feel well versed to expel any opinions on it so to be completely honest with you so what you're saying is you're sitting back as babies are being murdered and you're okay with that there's a nice fence that i see here and it's

it's nice to sit on some fences sometimes i don't there's no but but being honest here you know there's things that i believe personally and there's things I believe the government should be involved in. I don't think the government should be involved in anything. But people are arguing that when you're committing an abortion, you are killing another individual. And that argument is compelling to a lot of people. And I think it should be an argument that should be talked about more. Well, I think cutoff time is important. Like, after how many weeks?

And I remain hesitantly pro-choice on this issue. I don't really publicly share my opinions on this like Luke here. But I think it's, what is it, 12 weeks for when the baby has a heartbeat, I believe. That seems to be potentially a logical cutoff. Like after 12 weeks, then potentially maybe we shouldn't be able to or maybe a bit after that. I don't know. But it's a matter of having a reasonable cutoff point which we can debate about i know luke's trying to be careful here but the reason is is you know before the show he actually confirmed to me he's pro-death not actually pro-life at all he's he's like send them all to the camps to the good looks uh there's no there's no there's no fence on this issue it's one of the

hardest issues ethically yeah but i was i was you know reading a lot about roe v wade and um the initial rulings basically the idea is oh man it's insanely complicated you can't uh what they're saying is they don't want you to be able to abort after the fetus is viable because at that point you're dealing with a self-sustaining independent life life. Before that, the baby is not able to live outside. So- How many weeks are we talking? 24. 24 on. And I guess initially, during the initial arguments in Roe v. Wade, it was like 26 and beyond was viable. And now with medical technology, it's gone on 24. And so pro-lifers are basically like, don't abort for any reason and what's happening

now in mississippi is they're saying after 15 weeks you can't get an abortion john roberts was talking to um her name um what's her name i can't remember her name the solicitor general and he was like if you're talking about the issue of choice i don't understand how 15 weeks is not adequate time to make a choice. And she did not have an argument. And he brought up European countries. He said in many European countries, they have less time than we do. And then she lied and said, no, they allow abortion up to the point of viability. That's not true. And it's not true at all. Yeah. Europe is actually very strict. I think 12 weeks. Much more so than the US. Yeah. Why have they chosen 15,

by the way, here? What's the rationale behind 15 that's the heartbeat right yeah i think so 15 is around the time 15 16 is around the time i thought it was 12 for heartbeat but maybe maybe you're right i think it's also important for people to distinguish what they believe personally and what would they rather have the government do personally i'm not a fan of government uh but personally if i had a situation where you know i was potentially having a child i would do everything in my power to have that child and i would do everything to make sure that there wasn't an abortion um personally speaking from my own personal perspective that's what i would there's an interesting argument in this whole debate

that that basically came up and it's if a woman is pregnant with a baby and the baby is not able to sustain itself, then I don't think it's, it's the state's right to determine that someone has to share their body with someone else. But the issue for me is if someone has to, if a woman has to go to a doctor and the doctor says something like, look, you've got this, you know, problem, it's a serious health issue and it could kill both of you. And we're worried about this. Understanding the argument, because I've talked to Seamus from Freedom Toons a lot about this a lot. He's like, doctors can be wrong about that and often will pressure towards abortion. But that argument aside, if this woman has a serious medical issue,

it's traumatizing, it's serious. I don't like the idea that she goes to the government and seeks out approval or paperwork. However, if we're at a certain point where on average the baby is viable, you are now asking to terminate a sustainable life form. You are now saying to the government, I would like to kill this life. Okay. At that point, I think it's even absurd that you can go to the government, request termination of someone else. If the baby can live outside the womb, then I don't understand why we don't just say, okay, well, we're going to take the baby out of the womb and let it live. Well, what is life? I mean just lay there in a cradle until it starves to death or are we having someone take care of it? No, they put it in the premature baby incubation.

Someone's got to feed it and take care of it. Someone's got to start mothering it immediately when it's removed from the womb. These are tough moral questions, Ian. What's the alternative? We say we have this baby. Let's say you have a full-term baby fresh out of the womb, and then you're like, well, who's going to feed it? I won't. So what do you do?

Well, there's also a lot of people who can't have children and wish they can have children and they wish they could adopt but our adopting adoption system is absolutely crazy to the point where many americans are literally going to china and russia in order to get babies there because the process is so much easier and simpler to do it over there than to jump through all the government hoops here in the united states that actively intervenes and and you know some would argue prevents people from being able to adopt children here in the United States. So there's also arguments for that as well. And again, this is a very difficult discussion. A lot of emotion here.

You know, life, you know, how does it begin? I mean, that's a conception. That's a story. Life is precious, in my opinion, and should be preserved at all costs. This is a very sensitive issue, and we already got a super chat where they're like, long story short, Tim's hypocritical for opposing the death penalty, but for being pro-choice. I ain't pro-abortion. I think killing is wrong.

I think using abortion as contraception is disgusting. The problem is saying to the government, you have a right to be in the doctor's room with a person to demand their papers. I don't think it should be allowed for vaccines. I don't think it should be allowed for when you have to go to a doctor and you say, yo, my life sucks. I have a serious problem. And I think about the challenge here in that there are a lot of women who are crying saying,

please, please save my baby. And the doctor saying, ma'am, I can't. It's ectopic. It's not going to work. And then he's like, now, in order to save you, fill out this government form and go talk to your local politician about why this is what you need to do. I don't like the idea of the government being involved in that. I certainly despise to a great degree that people abuse the system to be like, eh, accidentally got pregnant instead of using

birth control. I'll just kill it. That's screwed up. That's bad and wrong. And then I sit there like with my head shaking, like, how do you reconcile this? I cannot entertain the idea of the government being given authority over our bodies and having a right to be in these medical rooms. There is an interesting argument, though, about the time duration. There's no middle ground here. This is the challenge here. I think killing is wrong. I think there are certain circumstances where you have to, and it's unfortunate. Kyle Rittenhouse shouldn't have had to kill the people he did, but he was defending himself. And I don't think he should go to prison for it. And I wish those people didn't lose their lives, no matter how awful they are. Sometimes you have no choice. If there is a woman

who has a serious medical issue, a legitimate one, I'm not talking about stupid lies or arguments or whatever. I'm talking about legitimate, like, yo, the heart is busted up and it's not going to survive and it might kill you too. And the mother is crying, begging for help, saying, please don't let this be true. And now she's got to go to the government for approval. Man, screw that. I'm not all about that.

I think that's ridiculous that Kyle Rittenhouse had to justify to a court with a threat of life in prison because he was simply trying to save his own life. And I view the issue very similarly when it comes to legitimate arguments from women who are dealing with this stuff. It is very, very difficult to reconcile. I can fully admit, hands down, Michelle Wolf and Lena Dunham, these people sicken me when they're celebrating this stuff and cheering for it. And women are standing outside of courtrooms taking pills, mocking it. But the problem is, you know, I'll tell you this. It's really simple. A pro-choice position is ridiculously close to the pro-lifers. They're both saying, man, we really hate this. And the pro-lifers are like, well, we don't want there to be any

excuse for why they're going to get away with doing this. And many of the pro-choicers, the legitimate ones are like, man, but getting the government involved. And then you have the pro-abortion people, which is the modern mainstream left, and they're celebrating this trash. So look, I don't want the death penalty. I don't want abortions. I recognize sometimes people die. I recognize sometimes there are abortions. I don't have all the answers morally, but I just don't like the government getting involved in people's business. Yeah, I think also to add to your point, I think you're absolutely right. And it's important to look at costs and benefits for when implementing a policy. You can't just look at the benefits

and the costs or sorry, just the benefits or the costs. When it came to COVID, people were all about lockdowns, lockdowns, but, and obviously they save lives. That's true when it comes to COVID, but when it comes to COVID. But when it comes to the economy, then it's totally different calculation. So in this case, you know, allowing, you know, being pro-choice doesn't mean that you're pro-abortion. It's just that you think that government mandates and government power in this case is more dangerous than certain people abusing that choice. So you're looking at the cost and deeming that to be more dangerous than the benefit. There's an interesting potential argument here as well. What if there was no

government involvement in any abortion, but the doctor did have to have a legitimate reason? How about that? That's a good idea. Well, you know, there's different spectrums here. And I think one of the worst runs was what happened when a lot of very powerful eugenicists in the United States implemented a one child policy in the United States and had a situation where the government there was forcing people to have abortions because they didn't want them to have more than one child. So that's the inverse of a situation where the government got involved in abortions but made it mandatory for almost everyone to take it if they wanted to have a second child. There's also a lot of very dark history when it comes to Margaret Sanger, Planned Parenthood, how it started,

a lot of letters by Margaret Sanger that are absolutely troubling, that are absolutely worrying. And when you really delve into a lot of government intervening in this specific realm, I think it highlights a very sinister dark past that is worth conversing and understanding before kind of jumping into this position

because I think it does play into the government's role here. This is such an impossible moral conundrum. It is. I mean, let's imagine a rape victim, someone who is not irresponsible, someone who did not make that choice, who is now being told by the government, you are obligated to share your body and blood. Your bodily autonomy is hereby revoked. You are now to provide for this other life.

If the girl wants to kill the baby, she's going to kill the baby, whether the government tells her it's legal or not we've had i've heard anecdotal stories of people going to like back alleys to get these black dark abortions under the table illegally and like she gets hurt during the the thing because it's not done on the on the up and up she takes some sort of injury like you're not going to stop it it's been going on since the dawn of humanity whether we've been destroying babies that aren't viable. Like they come out and they have their crippled or something and they would kill the baby and then. The Spartans, man. Yeah. They would just like leave it in the woods, right, and see if it survived.

To play devil's advocate on that argument, though, like that, from what I have read, the rape cases are only about 1% of cases for abortion. Thank you. So some people say that you shouldn't base policy based on the 1% of cases. I don't think rape is an excuse for killing a baby, for terminating the life. I think the problem though is there's a lot of very serious philosophical arguments about responsibility and choice. A lot of people immediately go to, how could you be against the death penalty, but for abortion, it's like there's completely different philosophical arguments there. I think you're mansplaining too much, Tim.

What about the guys who get pregnant? And what does the woman here think about this debate, Linda? Oh, boy, Luke, you triggered a firestorm here because I've been sitting listening and I've been thinking how wonderful it is that I've been able to maintain my silence as long as I have. This is like my hill to die on. This is what I've been able to maintain my silence as long as I have. This is like my hill to die on. This is what I really care about. You're correct that a vanishingly small number of abortions

are in fact committed because they are a result of rape or incest. I use numbers from the Guttmacher Institute, which is what Planned Parenthood uses for their numbers. So they err on the side of maybe trying to pump those numbers up to kind of support the idea that abortion is actually medically necessary. And I agree with Tim because I know people who are the result of rape and they are wonderful people. They were adopted by people who care very much about them.

And of course, they would much rather be alive than be dead. And that's why I said, I think the conservatives who argue the rape or incest exemption, I don't understand that at all. Yeah. I don't see how it's the baby's fault that they were conceived through rape. However, there's an issue of someone being forced to share their body with someone else. So if the government came to me right now and said, we're going to hook up your blood to Ian because Ian needs your blood to live, I'd be like, hell no. Right.

And they'd be like, well, you should have been more responsible. I didn't choose that. Right. So that's the personal autonomy problem. Further, the problem arises that, yeah, 1% is, you know, but, and so I think it's 99, isn't it like 99% of abortions are no reason given? Elective. Yeah.

Either no reason given or elected. I think, I think it's, I think abortion as contraception is wrong, but I don't know how you deal with it then when someone can walk in there and be like, right. Yeah. And then what do you do to the actual rape victims who are like you can't force me to share my body with somebody else i didn't choose this i don't have the answers man i'm just like i think i think one of the most compelling arguments on the pro-life side is what luke was alluding to earlier um and i've looked at the data on this that there is actually higher need for adoption than there is actual supply. For when it comes to very young children, I believe that changes for kids after the age of like six,

like there's an abundance of kids in foster care homes who aren't able to find parents to adopt them. But when it comes to really young infants, from what I understand, there's a huge, huge need, but it's not met with the same level of supply. So arguably, you could say that we should have pro-life policy and let people give birth to kids and give it off to adoption, because there are so many parents, gay couples also, who are looking to adopt, and it's very, very hard because there's a very, very low supply. I do think that one of the things that we could do to help solve the problem of abortion is to reform the adoption system um make it simpler so one of the problems with roe v wade is that it never should have been legislated at the federal level

because what they found was that abortion was becoming more socially acceptable before they passed roe v wade if they had gone state to state and said do you guys want abortion and each individual state had used their 10th amendment rights to say we do want it we don't want it because this is not in fact a uh duty left to the federal government by the constitution thereby meaning it should be left to the state there are no emanations and penumbra's in the 14th amendment that say that a woman should be allowed to remove her child's body from her body by force necessary so i think that um we are you're correct that it is very nuanced and i hate to see leftists being so insane but i thank them for making my case for me because no one can look at these women standing on the steps of this building taking these abortion pills and just

shouting their abortion it's phil phil obanti from all their remains tweeted that if there's one issue that's going to push moderates to the conservatives it's the issue of abortion because the leftist argument on all this stuff is like i mean it's evil it is it it is absolute it is amoral it is unethical it is it is evil they don't treat life with value and look i get it when they talk about moral relativism oh yeah i think it's a real thing and i think when you have a bunch of people who lack a moral framework, they have no problem literally killing, burning down buildings and celebrating it. And we've seen that with the riots all throughout last year. Twenty-five directly dead as a result of the George Floyd riots and not an ounce of remorse. In fact, they still celebrate it.

When was it Aaron Danielson? That was his name? The guy in Portland who took two to the chest, they cheered for it. What happened after Charlottesville? Everyone on the right mourned and said, this is terrible. We're shocked by this. It's because you look at the moral foundations of these people and they don't have any. We talk about care and fairness. Now, whatever the modern leftists are, they are just a chaotic, destructive force. They have no principles. There is no logic.

I'm not talking about literally everyone on the left. I'm talking about the weird cultist, woke, whatever, cheering for death, taking abortion pills, celebrating the stuff. That's just amoral outright. And to me, overtly evil. My issue is just like, wow, I'm trying to be good. I'm trying to respect everybody. But boy, is it hard when you have a woman who is an autonomous life form with rights and a baby who is an autonomous life form with rights. And how do we reconcile that with what the government gets to do? Ben Shapiro, brilliant argument that if there's one thing the state does do, it's protect life. In which case, when it comes to the issue of

a child, a baby, which and life. In which case, when it comes to the issue of a child, a baby, which, and life does begin at conception, any other argument otherwise is a ridiculous political argument, then the government should be involved in whether or not life is terminated. And I want to address that one very, very seriously because, look, when the sperm and the egg come together, you get unique DNA. And from that point on, there is a unique set of DNA. That is new life. The new life is now created. When we had Vosh on the show, he was talking with Charlie Kirk, and he was asked, when does he think life starts? He was like, birth. And I'm like, so if the baby is not born from the woman,

it's not alive? But you can have a baby at eight months be removed by a C-section and it's alive and self-sustaining. Why is birth the point? What is traveling through the vagina and the vulva have to do with whether or not this baby is literally living? I've heard from people that say three months. Three months is when life starts because babies can't remember anything before that. And I'm like, so people who have serious amnesia issues or short-term memory issues and can't remember things aren't alive?

It's a ridiculous argument. Life begins at conception. It's a political argument to say otherwise. Moving on from there, you have a very serious conundrum of who gets to decide when a life is terminated. I don't like the death penalty and I don't like abortion, but I recognize death and abortion. You get a couple of skin cells in a petri dish. It's alive.

It's not a human. I think that's... When does it become a human is the debate. I think if... Is the skin going to grow and become? Unknown.

Well, the answer is no, Ian. You don't know. No, we do. What do you mean? I'm not talking about... I'm talking about when does the baby in utero become a human? Like, at what point do we say... It's still a lot. No, we do. Wait, what do you mean? I'm not talking about... I'm talking about when does the baby in utero become a human? Like at what point do we say...

It's a lie from conception, I agree. Living muscle tissue. But at what point do we acknowledge human? Is it a heartbeat? Is it a brain? Three weeks? Nine weeks? I think it's conception.

Twelve weeks? Well, it's not really human at that point yet, though. This is such an interesting argument because if you watched a dog sperm meet a dog egg would you ask the question is that a dog would you there would there be any doubt in your mind that a little puppy would result from that union probably not i don't understand why we do this with humans and not it's it's it's you know the reason i disagree with you is that it would be like looking at a child and being like it's not it's not because, I mean, we don't know that it will become a mature adult who can reproduce. No, it's a zygote.

If you look at a zygote. You're arguing a different stage of human life doesn't mean it's human. Well, you don't know what it's going to become yet when you're looking at a zygote. Unless you know that it was a human sperm and egg or a dog sperm and egg, you don't know what it's going to turn into. So I think in Ian's defense, I think the differentiation you're trying to make potentially is in terms of like pain perception potentially you could say. Like for – at what stage does the fetus like feel pain and it's actually different? Arguably. Then that argument is like Terry Shivo.

Remember that whole thing? Yeah, I do remember that. A person in a vegetative state isn't alive. Oh. What if someone's in a coma? They can't respond to stimuli. You're just like, meh, they're dead. Similar.

We have no idea if they'll come to, and then a week later they wake up and say, well, I'm alive. There's still a lot. But sperm and egg versus an actual fetus that has a heartbeat, like in terms of feeling pain after you terminate it would be different. I'm saying I don't think pain is relevant to the conversation of whether someone has rights. There are people who literally can't feel i'm saying arguably in terms of suffering if we're measuring based on suffering but i don't think we are okay like if if if an old man is comatose you know guy in his 60s is comatose he has he has rights and i think there's an interesting question about do we have a are we obligated to give him life support and the answer to that is

probably no, but we can, and maybe it's the right thing to do. I don't think healthcare is a human right. If there's someone lying on the ground in the woods and they're comatose, you can be like, they will die. Without assistance from someone else, they have no right to it, but we do want to save them. My point is that pain is not relevant to whether or not we want someone to live or they have the right to live or anything like that. Just because someone can feel pain or can suffer doesn't mean we let them die. We usually choose to preserve life. But obviously there is a difference morally speaking. There is some difference there.

I don't agree in terms of how much harm you're inflicting on just an egg and a sperm versus an actual fetus 20 weeks in. Egg and a – Obviously there's a difference. I'm not saying that that's a big difference, but it is there. It is fair to say that we do, as a culture, treat fertilized eggs very, very differently than we would an actual baby. If a woman has a fertilized egg and then miscarries and doesn't know what happened and it just flushed out of the body, there's no murder trial. There's no murder investigation. If she gives birth to a baby and

then something happens and the baby dies in the crib, the cops are going to come and try and figure out what happened. So there's a certain point where the government would intervene and wouldn't intervene. That being said, I think the government is doing a heck of a bad job, and that's why I don't like them. I don't like the government and the system in a lot of ways and a lot of things they do. So one of the things that I was going to add to Luke's point from earlier was that I feel like a lot of this would be resolved if we reduce the size of the government and reduce their overreach. If we kind of scaled back the involvement that they have in the adoption process, if

we scaled it all the way back from telling women what they can and can't do, if we left it to doctors, if we left it to mothers. But at the end of the day i have to say that i genuinely feel that um this is a cultural problem and i need to fix the culture figured it out what you just gotta pull a trump a big ask right do you guys know what the big ask is nice yeah so a big ask you know read art of the deal right that's what that's trump's book right and it's basically like you know maybe i want want to sell. What's a good example? I want to buy.

I want to hire you to do a job. And so what you do with the big ask is you'll say, okay, I'll do this job. What you really want is 50 bucks. But you know if you start with 50, I'm going to negotiate down. So you say, I want 500. And then I go, whoa, whoa, that's crazy. And then you go, well, 500 is my number. And then I say, I can't do that. So you say, I want 500. And then I go, whoa, whoa, that's crazy. And then you go, well, 500 is my number. And then I say, I can't do that.

And you go, okay, fine. What if we do three? No, no, three is still nuts. Well, now you're getting me down a lot, bro. Will we do 250? All right, 250. The big ask is you ask for way more than you want. So you negotiate down to where you really want to be.

It's simple. All we have to do is have someone campaign on forced abortion. That way, everyone freaks out. And I'm kidding. The China policy. Ted Turner liked that one. So did Bill Gates's dad, who was connected to Planned Parenthood. Again, there's so much things I could talk about this.

But that's not a policy that's too absurd, Tim. That's a policy that many people have argued for. They're doing it right now in China in the Uyghur camps. Yeah. Well, these are – you know what everyone needs to realize? Because someone brought this up. They said that viability is actually getting – like at 15 weeks, there's been a case where a child, a 15-week fetus has survived. And so with modern technology, eventually abortion will be made

illegal because a fertilized egg will be viable in right technological settings. Think about what that means when it comes to transhumanism. These arguments are going to get crazier and crazier. We don't even know. Because when we talk about forced medical procedures like government mandates, I brought up earlier today, and I have to at Star star trek when i think it was data talking to jordy laforge for those that aren't familiar data is an android he is physically he is he's a robot i mean he's superior he's stronger he's faster he doesn't sleep and jordy has uh cybernetic eyes he's blind so he has a prosthetic visor he wears that gives him enhanced vision and he's asked i think it's by data i could be it's been a long time since i saw the episode but he's asked, I think it's by data. I could be, it's been a long time since I saw the episode, but he's asked, you know, are your eyes superior to a regular human's eyes?

And he says, well, yeah, he's like, I can see x-rays infrared. And then he says, then why is it not mandatory for all humans to have those implanted in them? And it's like, well, because people, you know, have individual autonomous rights. When we get into the policy where it's like the COVID vaccine is going to keep you safe and keep others safe. So you have to get it. And I'm like, yeah. So we're wearing a bulletproof vest 24 seven. Are you going to mandate that?

Yeah. As we develop technology, viability could become like a day. You could have an egg and a sperm meat. And they're like, we have the technology to now gestate this in a machine. And then it's going to be like, citizen, you are required to deposit your sperm as per government regulation. They're doing that in China.

They have sperm catching machines at hospitals that literally men walk up to and they have a huge population. What? Someone corrected me. It was Data and Picard. No, this is important. I'm sorry, Luke. Picard's the moral the episode i think it's called make of a man where this the philosophy of the show is brilliant data's an android and

they're trying to they're questioning whether or not he has human rights whether or not he has civil he's worthy of civil rights or he's just a washing machine or he's just a computer and so he says to pick hard he's like are geordie's eyes not superior to you know human eyes and he's like well yes and he's like then why is it not mandatory? Making an important point about bodily autonomy. I would argue that Chinese man-sucking machines are a lot more important than this kind of nerd talk, personally, myself.

That's what me and Ian were just talking about. They have a population crisis, and the Chinese have literally developed man-sucking machines that take out the sperm, and they're building databases on women and fertility in Beijing. It's absolutely crazy what's happening in China because of that one-child policy that has absolutely really messed things up socially in China. But that's a whole other topic. All right. That's a good one.

Let's take Super Chats. If you haven't already, smash that Like button, subscribe to the the channel and go to timcast.com become a become a member we're gonna have a members only segment coming up around 11 or so p.m but let's read some of these super chats yes and uh josh martinez says for goodness sake tim that a single pro-life person has ever said you should have to petition the government to get an abortion not ever well um let me ask you lydia how would how would would there ever be a circumstance in which abortion is allowed under your ideal system? Yeah. Actually, there is one instance in which abortion should be a possibility, and Seamus disagrees with me on this.

I think – and this is what my parents thought as well. They were even way more conservative than I am. If it threatens the life of the mother, that's it. That's the reason. And so if it's illegal in all other contexts, how does the mother get that abortion performed? There's an exception? I don't know. So will the doctor just be like, I've decided there's an exception and we're going to do it?

Or will the doctor have to get approval from the government? Yeah. So typically I would imagine that would be more than one doctor would need to confirm that this is actually the case. Like she had an ectopic pregnancy. And then from there on they would they would, I don't know. I don't know if they'd have to go to the government. It might be like a county or state thing where they'd need to submit a request and then go through and figure out what to do.

I think it's entirely possible to argue it's just three separate doctors from three separate practices. You know, three independent, you know, are confirmed by an arbiter. An arbiter, there has to be an external party is the issue. Right. Someone else, because you could have three doctors who collude and be like, we'll work together and just claim the same thing and no one can stop us. So you would need a third party, in which case, who appoints the third party and regulates them?

My issue is I don't see a way this is accomplished unless there is government regulation directly involved and someone working at the behest to be the arbiter. Right. I don't like the idea. I do think there needs to be some level of organization like that. And this is making me wonder if there's any other kind of procedure that they do in – I know I worked in a hospital, but I didn't work in administration. So I don't know if there are other procedures that you have to ask the government if you can do something. That would be interesting to look into.

I'll have to check that out. I mean, maybe it really is just the compromise of we recognize some doctors might collude, but we accept it as reality. In which case, there doesn't need to be government involvement. There just needs to be three doctors who confirm and agree. But then, man, there's still the challenge of the individual who says this is not an issue of irresponsibility or choice. I'm being forced to carry carry another life against my will i think that at the end of the day one of the nuances we need to look at is the fact that we're not going to be able to make a perfect system unfortunately and i think that's just something we're gonna have to live with unfortunately you

know maybe uh maybe what we do is we just create uh ultron yeah there you go the way to bring about peace in a perfect system and to end all human strife is to end humans. I mean... Like Bender says in Futurama, you know? All humans, yeah, yeah. I think Bill Gates would agree with that. Bill Gates is watching Futurama and he watches Bender go, kill all humans. And he goes, I like this guy.

The coaster guy says, bold of them to assume the military would run it well. I was vaccinated through my job in the Guard. They lost my records twice and then reprimanded me for not being vaccinated. I love people who just believe that the government can run things properly. Obviously. These leftists who are like, we want universal health care. It's like, imagine the DMV regulating your health care. It was like Kramer.

It was like, we'll get the military to do it. Come on, dude. Have you seen the way they administrate stuff? He probably hasn't. Have you been to the DMV? Yes, seriously. Oh, man. Known for its...

You know, I got to be honest. The DMVs out here in West Virginia are pretty good. They're fast. It's population density that really, really messes things up. You get in these cities. In New York, it was a disaster. I bought a moped, and I called, and I'm I, does this have to be registered? They did yes. And I said, how do I do it? And they were like, just bring in the bill of sale, the receipt,

bring it to the, any DMV will take care of you. And I went in there and not a single person understood how to deal with it. They were all confused and they were all asking each other. And then eventually they were like, we can't do it. And then I was like, then how do I ride my bike without a plate? And they were like, uh, you can't. And I'm like, well, it sounds like a you problem. And they were like, can't help you, sir. And so I was like, okay, great. Thanks, government.

Now I got to deal with cops who are going to be like, I don't care why. Right. The law is the law is. So like basically mopeds are illegal. They're not, by the way. Yeah. How did you resolve that? I rode my bike without a license plate.

Did you ever end up getting one uh no dang that's a guy breaking the law yeah well there so the problem was i think i don't know the the exact words of the law but because of the pedals that arguably it was a gray zone and so i was like look if the dmv tells me there's no way to register it and they can't and it's not illegal then i'm like okay then i guess i'll just write it so there are pedals on it so they were like it's not a motorcycle they told me they did not know how to register it and didn't think it could be done and thus they didn't think it was regulated under you know those laws or whatever and i was like i'm pretty sure it is and I have to do it. And they were like, well, we don't and we can't, so we think you're fine. And I was like,

I never got pulled over. Did it smell like baby diapers in there when you were in there? No. Those really deep inner city DMVs tend to smell like baby diapers. Interesting. DeBob says FB is allowing Rittenhouse praise and discussion. I wonder if they'll

remove my rolling suspensions for sharing memes 30 days plus 30 days plus 30 days each yeah man all right i think that's bad wait till the metaverse hits oh boy oh you know uh i'll briefly mention this too because someone mentioned lauren bobert i think she very poorly handled the ilhan omar thing i think dude, you made a joke. That's it. Yeah. And, like, Nancy Pelosi is like, she's screaming. I would be the worst member of Congress ever if I was ever in there. Because I'd make jokes all the time.

And then they were like, apologize. I'd be like, ignore it. And moving on. And they'd probably kick me out. They legit would kick me out. Like, I wouldn't dress up. I'd tell them to shove off. I don't know.

I think Lauren shouldn't have apologized. I think she shouldn't have even tried. I think she should have been like, ha-ha, I told a joke. I would have responded. Yeah, I know. Eric A. says, there's a clip from 10 years ago

of Jim Cramer talking about things he would do to manipulate the market when he was a hedgy. Said it required someone to enforce the rules. Felt like I had to take a shower after watching it. You see that hedge fund billionaire who said there's going to be a civil war? No. Yeah, he's worth $20 billion. And he said in the next five years,

there's a 30% chance of a civil war-like conflict in the United States. Seems higher than that, but okay. He makes his money off of predictions. Literally, that's what Forbes said. the united states seems higher than that but okay he makes his money off of predictions huh literally his yeah he's he's that's what forbes said he he places investments in bets and then makes money off him he's one of the most successful guys doing it and he thinks a civil war is coming oh boy what a crackpot yeah stupidest thing ever there's no reason for people to fight i'm gonna say it in the civil war the american civil war there was a strong moral issue. The North despised slavery. It was moral.

The South, it was an issue strongly of convenience for them and state rights, but they didn't view it as a moral repugnancy. They were just like, hey, we can do what we want. People in the North were legit like, I will storm my way into your state and literally kill people to stop slavery. There were a lot of abolitionists who are like morally driven. The issue of abortion. Let's say come June 2020. They, Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade. All the red states ban abortion.

All the blue states don't. People in the red states, for the most part, those are pro-life, have a strong moral position. It is wrong and it must be stopped. But the pro-abortion people and many of the pro-choicers are basically just like, as a matter of convenience, I don't know, I think it should be allowed, but whatever. There's no, in my opinion, there's very few people who would storm into red states demanding abortion facilities be opened. In which case, if there is going to be, I think it's entirely possible that abortion is a is a key issue which could trigger very serious um civil i would imagine it would be government overreach for

covid regulations if anything was going to spark physical violent conflict that it would be like people kicking doors down trying to inoculate force inoculate people like you can't take my guns or or mandating like the third shot or the fourth shot in schools. Once we get to that point in a year or two years, then things could start getting really dystopian. A few months. I can agree to a certain extent, but I'm not convinced it'll be rolled out the way you think it will. I don't think they're going to go door to door and pin people down. No, no. It'd be too overt.

Right. What's going to happen is they're going to create perverse incentives and things like that. Yeah, money. you know they're going to create perverse incentives and things like that but the issue of abortion is like i mean i didn't shamus say this that's like abortion could be one day abolished like slavery and viewed much the same way i say the exact same thing it's a strong moral position people are willing to like it just doesn't seem right to fight and kill to prevent killing what do you mean that happened that that's literally what war is every war i mean it's one thing to kill the slave master and release the slave but who are you going to kill to prevent the mother from killing the baby the mother

no you have you have facilities that that operate and so you're like down a bunch of buildings they'll just do it another building we're talking about war we're not talking about like who would they kill it doesn't make sense though to fight to stop abortion who like how do you how do you fight to stop slavery i mean what would you do like burn a farm down yes sherman literally did march to the sea burning they had to remove the slave owners from power so how so exactly so you want to stop abortion what would people do they would target doctors and facilities and destroy them and of course people slaves still existed the civil war they had to send send the Union soldiers down to Texas. And that's what Juneteenth was about.

It took like three years to finally, hey, you're not supposed to be doing this. They still did. I'm saying, I'm not saying it's right or wrong or whatever your opinion is. I'm just saying the pro-life people have a strong moral position. They say this must be not allowed. And the people who are on the side of pro-choice and pro-life, I'mchoice pro-choice and pro-abortion are not that morally convicted to it that's for sure right it's just a matter of priorities i think freedom or safety or life other people like people have different values and so they have different

decisions on these complex issues i'd like to hear from someone that experienced the roe versus wade phenomenon was went through it as a female. That would be interesting. Let's read some more. We got Bugha Off. He says, what do we call it when someone tries to force something inside of someone else

even by coercion? The Harvey Weinstein. Insertion. Forceful insertion. We call it an international arrival bungalow. Oh. Tara Ann Simmons says, isn't this all a part of the great reset i believe so seems like

it yeah i think i think they're doing the rat experiment on us and i mean that somewhat facetiously i just think no no they are i don't know if it's as intentional as i think it it's i really don't believe there's a grand nucleus controlling everything. But I believe the circumstances we're in will result in the same outcome. I don't know if it's relevant to be like here's who I think is doing something. It's happening regardless. We're under lockdown. We all freak out. Everyone loses their minds.

They lift the lockdown. Everyone goes, oh, thank heavens. And now they're like lockdown again but this time 10 times longer. And people are going to be like, ooh, we'll get out of it soon. I love the South Park episode. I didn't see it. Have you guys seen it? I saw part of it tonight.

I did. It pretty much pokes fun at the great reset. It's amazing. It's incredible. It's like they're all adults. Children taken over by VR. There's like Chinese symbols everywhere. There's people like eating bugs.

Meat is banned. I love that South Park special. It was good. And it was like 40 years later and COVID finally ends? Yeah. No, no, no. Finally, finally, just finally stops being relevant in everyone's adults. All the four main children characters are all

old and Cartman is... He's a rabbi. Yes, amazing. Kyle's a rabbi? No, amazing. Kyle's a rabbi? Yeah. No, no, not Kyle. Cartman. Cartman.

Cartman's a rabbi. Yeah, he is, yeah. All right, I'll definitely watch that. You have to. All right, let's see. Mark Sermon says, true journalism criteria. All sources are linked.

No ads beyond self-promotion. Based on primary sources, not other articles, tweets, et cetera. I think that's high tier. I think you could do journalism, but I do think sources should be linked. I think ads are fine, to be completely honest. And I think based on primary sources is, I would say, 9 out of 10, 9 out of 10. There may be some circumstances where you have additional input, but 99.9% of the time, I think primary sources.

And that's because I don't want to be completely absolute, but all sources should always be linked. And the challenge there is when you have unnamed sources. I'm not a big fan. I'm not a big fan. But if you have the trust, I guess I've had unnamed sources before. So it is what it is true not a shot but a pressure about a calf care says my lifelong republican dad called me an anti-vaxxer today today was a huge black pill rip american freedom yeah there was that there's a clip from that uh gunner guy michael gunner in north northern territories who's like if you

oppose vaccine mandates you're anti-vax absolutely and i will not and i'm like man that guy is insane the the the most um scary thing about that is that he is right technically as per the new dictionary definition is that anti-vaxxer now means being against mandates or giving aid comfort or support to people who are anti-lockdown. Yeah. If you look at the actual polls, by the way, Americans who are actually anti-vax, it's like 5% or 8%. It's very, very small. But now you're going to have a much bigger group of now anti-vax, like 20%, 30%, or whatever it is, that actually oppose mandates.

Or maybe more than that. Ben D says, you hearwin says he never pulled the trigger oh man should we talk about that we talked about it a little bit before the show yeah he's lying he's a liar an actor there might be possible a kind of gun that goes off just from pulling the hammer back and letting it go that it would fire there's a possibility for that as well well that's a that's a malfunction he has a single action revolver you pull the hammer the the you know the cylinder spins and then the trigger is ready to be pulled i think you know it may be possible that alec baldwin doesn't understand when you pull the hammer back the trigger goes back and so he

didn't realize that it's like it's like a hair trigger it's like you tap it and uh the other question is um uh you didn't pull trigger, but you pulled the hammer and pointed it at this woman and the gun went off. It's like, bro, I don't care if you did or didn't, whatever you believe. Like, you pulled out a gun, you pointed at a person, you pulled the hammer back, it went off, somebody died. And when trauma goes down, people's memories sometimes blacks out. So he might not remember pulling the trigger.

Or he's just saying what he has to say. I'd be down to talk about it. He doesn't want to go to prison. Yeah, he was crying. Like, he was legit crying. His he's just saying what he has to say. I'd be down to talk about it. He doesn't want to go to prison. Yeah, he was crying. Like, he was legit crying. His eyes were all puffy. He was bad.

All right, let's see. We got Talon's Andrew. The microchip semiconductor industry is pushing mandates all over the country. Semiconductor workers need help fighting back. Please help get the word out. We have a petition on change titled Save Semiconductors. You know what I think people should do? I think just get all your buddies who work in that field and just start your own factory, man.

I mean, it might be nice. It's not going to be easy, but start small and just start working on it. I'm down. If it's possible. I'm not saying it is. Graffian semiconductors? Definitely possible. But let's just create that parallel economy they want so dear.

You guys want to make some turbostratic graphene with me? There you go. Make superconductors? A user named Emmanuel Goldstein says, are we going to address the elephant in the room that Trump was on

the Lolita Express? And as I stated, as per Mr. Bill Gates, if you're a wealthy elite and you are flying on the Lolita Express and it's called the Lolita Express,

I can only assume you're doing one thing and that goes goes for Trump, same as it goes for anybody else. Yeah, I made a video theorizing what happened to Trump and Epstein on my Luke Uncensored video. But I think it's an extortion operation. It wouldn't surprise me if Trump was caught up in the extortion part. And come on, like the way Trump talks about women paying, what did he pay? A hundred grand for a Starmie Daniels? Yeah. He gets invited to the silent scene as anybody else.

That's a bad business deal. And he wrote the art of the deal. I mean, come on. Someone else wrote it. I think he put his name on it. I mean, maybe 10,000, but a hundred thousand. But hold on. I mean, what's the guy worth?

He's a billionaire. He probably pulled out a random wad of cash and, maybe 10,000, but 100,000. But hold on. I mean, what's the guy worth? He's a billionaire. He probably pulled out a random wad of cash and he's like, oh, I got 150 on me. I'll give you 100 here. It cost him like 10 grand just to count the money in hours that he's losing in time. Yeah, he probably just threw a wad of cash. Like $10,000 a minute or something. But yeah, we heard reports in the Maxwell trial that Trump was very much flying. And the pilot, I believe, called Trump Epstein's wingman,

saying that like it was, yeah, with young ladies and all that stuff. Trump gets no special treatment from me. If Bill Gates is on the plane and we're going to call him out, I'd love to pull up a video of Trump stuttering and stammering. If he does, you know, what did Trump say about Maxwell? He wishes her well for the trial. Which is an odd comment. Yep.

Ask Dummy says, might sound too silly, but to be honest, I think the medium of air is up for grabs. Really? Meaning, who has legal responsibility over the quality of air in my lungs now? Or, say at work, is my respiratory system an extension of my 400-pound co-worker who just eats all day? Yeah, there's something really gross about sitting next to some disgusting person that's not taking care of themselves.

Gross. Just smelling up the room. I was on a plane once and it was, what were we on? We were like on an Embraer, a CRJ. So they're not very big. They only have two seats on each side. And so it's one dude and he was probably 300 something, 400 pounds. And the lady comes by with the food cart where they sell stuff.

They have the snack box, they have the sandwiches. And, you know, she looks over at me and she's just like, would you like to buy any food? And I was like, oh, I'm good. And the guy next to me goes, yeah, I'll have the poor boy. And she's like, okay, I'll also have another poor boy. I'll take two snack boxes. Do you have

chips? I'll take two bags of those. Do you have anything to drink? I'll take three Pepsis. Yes, three. Okay, thank you. You don't have to open them. And also uh do you have the nut package i'll take another snack box and i was i'm not exaggerating i was sitting there like whoa and the dude i'm like you're flying in the wrong class man yeah this was a long time ago you know uh good old days yeah when i when i uh you can't always get first class because of availability but I'd often get upgraded and then so then you're sitting in the bigger seat now it's like if I have to fly you know it's got to be first class mainly because I work morning show night show and then we had to

wake up when we flew to Austin it was like wake up Saturday first thing I'm like dude my head will literally fall off if I'm dealing with the stress of sitting in coach and having to deal with that kind of nightmare oh it's that's not a it's, it is, people need to understand this first class exists for a reason. True. If you're flying just like one time, you're going on vacation. I've flown coach hundreds, thousands of times, no joke, thousands, no problem. But when, when I had to fly, when I was working for these companies, like twice a week, I

was like, yo, I literally can't handle flying. I would fly in on a morning and then fly out at night. And I'm like, please spare me dealing with this. And so that's why they have the rewards program. So typically I'd fly first class because I was like an elite member. I'd flown so much. These days I have like the special,

you know, I still have the special account or whatever. So I ain't gotta worry about it. I have like a million frequent flyer miles. All right. Mason Wolfie saysie says 20 says federal military enforcement leads to separation of states and the activation of militia groups throughout the u.s not saying it will just a guess i think abortion is going to play a big role in this i really do to be honest i'm not feeling that you don't think so no i look at like how they they said what was oklahoma's national guard they were going to turn it into a militia like that to me is federal government saying we are basically renouncing our authority over you oklahoma like if you're going to start doing

that to states states are not going to take your uh your laws very seriously ben h says trump did not focus on prison reform with the first step. The goal is to reduce unnecessarily long prison sentence, improve conditions in prisons, and – oh, I'm sorry. Trump did focus on prison reform with the First Step Act, reduce unnecessarily long prison sentences, improve conditions in prisons, and enact post-prison rehabilitation programs. I love it. It's fantastic. Yeah, he released so many people that were in prison for, like, decades, and they came came out and they were so happy and so grateful and i think the programs to actually help rehabilitate people is crucial like not just like let them off on the streets and then commit crimes again we know recidivism rates are so so high like people would recommit crimes like 60 70 so like actually giving people programs where they

can educate themselves or acquire skills to apply them in trades like plumbing or electrician or whatever it is. That's very, very important. Now do Julian Assange. Yeah, maybe you're right. Maybe what we should do is at the first sign of any potential crime, we put you in solitary for the rest of your life. Oh, interesting.

Just instantly without trial. You ever see Judge Dredd? You ever read it? Yeah. Yeah, their judge, jury, and executioner are right there on the street. It's faster. It's easier. Very fast.

It's actually a really interesting concept too. We were talking to Andrew Branca of the Law of Self-Defense, and he was just talking about how there's too many criminals for the courts to effectively deal with them. My response is like that's too bad for the state. If they don't have the time to give a hearing, release them. It is better that 10 guilty persons go free than one innocent person suffer. From that idea, though, you end up with someone writing Judge Dredd. Well, because there's too many criminals,

make the judge and the cop and the jury one person who can go out and judge people. It's a cool sci-fi concept, man. Yeah, it was pretty cool. It's brutal, though. Sandra Bullock and what's his name? Well, they did the new one with Carl Urban. No, I haven't seen that.

Yeah, I think, yeah. Yeah, that was Sylvester Stallone. He was a little cheesy, yeah. Yeah, yeah. He definitely got potential, though. I like the concept and flying cars. Yep, just straight up killing people. I don't know, man.

It's an interesting concept as to the congestion, not something we want to have. I would like to see webcams more utilized in prison. And maybe for people that have an interest in learning a trade, they could do it on the internet and take classes every day. And then you could have prison guards watch them. Just don't leave James Comey's daughter in charge of that project. You know what we should talk about? Wyatt Anderson says, Tim and crew, if the second civil war happens uh would you fight or be a be war correspondence uh i mean neither i mean i guess we would keep doing the show yeah i don't

know i don't know why that would change unless youtube was like oh your opinions are bad and we're in a civil war so they delete us or something we probably just keep you know doing the show i think we should definitely talk a little bit about this um because i think it was slate wrote an article saying which side are you on the second civil war is coming and they were like we're not saying it's a guarantee but who will which side we it's time to choose like it's it was a crazy article and it showed like a proud boy with a mask on or something and i'm like man you're crazy information is key during war and that's why through before many wars start all uh dissemination of information is usually centralized by the state so if there was a conflict i don't think there would be things like

youtube and open debate and discussions i think all of that would be out the window immediately salon wrote it in this in the coming second american civil war which side are you on i think that's so reductionary because i don't think that there are just going to be two sides. Right. Look at the photo that they decided to put up with this. Oh, wonderful. That guy looks like Bane. Yeah.

Yeah. But like America Bane. I like it, though. I like it. Does he have a shield? Can we scroll down a little bit? No, that's fine. He does have a shield, though.

So, yeah, man. You know what I think? I think we'll talk about that in the – we'll talk about the member segment. We'll get into a lot of that stuff. And we'll just read one more here. Mark B. says, why no comparison to the vaccine mandates to the number of the beast? It is here. We've talked about that.

We talked about how it says that – are you familiar with – was it Revelation? Yeah. Revelation. Yeah, Revelation. Yeah, no S. Is it singular? I think so uh right yeah i've heard about it the mark of the beast you would not be able to buy sell or trade unless

you had the mark of the beast interesting i didn't know that yeah and then someone super chatted it to us and i was like what the bible would talk about trading or selling like in that context that's weird well yeah i know like christians don't even i didn't realize that but the mark of the beast was just like a sign you were a member or something. And then I read it and I was like, oh, yeah, that's crazy. I err on the side these days that interests are using the story of the Bible and Revelation and then making it happen as opposed to like it was going to happen all along. That's where I'm at now.

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so I can write about my experiences on MDMA, DMT, psilocybin coming up in the next six months and hopefully share with readers these experiences so that they can have their own. We'll talk about that too in the members. Ian's ears sparked up, by the way. His eyes went up pretty high.

Most of it, yeah. I've only puffed on DMT. I've never gone broken through yet. Well, we can talk about that. There are a lot of interesting discussions we could have about that. I don't want to,

you know, give people DMT blue balls. Tune in. For the whole experience. I never thought I would ever hear that in my life. I wish I did.

You are. I also have my own YouTube channel. It's youtube.com forward slash we are change. I was translating German again today. I had a lot of fun with it. People really YouTube channel. It's youtube.com forward slash we are change. I was translating German again today. I had a lot of fun with it.

People really enjoyed it. It was absolutely bonkers and totally facetious. And if you want to see it, again, youtube.com forward slash we are change. Hope to see some of you guys there. Thanks for having me. Thank you guys so much for coming. I'm Ian Crossland. Check me out, iancrossland.net.

If you want to get in touch with my socials, catch you later. Thank you guys for bearing with me on my impassioned arguments about pro-life as I always bring. If you guys would like to see more of my insane but well-researched arguments against abortion, you are more than welcome to follow me at SarpatchLits on Twitter. So a few minutes before the show, I was pulling up on my phone, my Google Drive, and I was talking to some of the people here. We're working on recording some more music, so we've got some guests here. And I was like, let me see if I can find some of the recordings I have.

Maybe I can send you. And so I went to my Google Drive, and I searched for music. And then this music folder pops up, and I click it, and I see a bunch of names of songs I don't recognize. And I'm like, what is this? I don't know what this is. And so I look, and there's lyrics, and I'm like, I didn't write this. What is this and then there's a video of this like dude with like short brown hair and some like red guitar and i was like what the hell is this and i play the video and i don't recognize this guy at

all and then he starts singing and i'm like that's ian that's a good song that song is hot yeah anyway thanks for hanging out we'll see you all at TimCast.com in the members-only segment. Bye, guys.