Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #421 - NYC Decrees Vax Mandate For KIDS, Most Draconian In Country w/Daniel Turner

Episode Date: December 7, 2021

Tim, Ian, Luke, and Lydia join friend and president of Powering The Future Daniel Turner to analyze the NYC vax mandate decree for children, the woman in Canada who went without any food for 40 hours ...for Covid isolation, the German military's poor optics of marching with lighted torches, Trump's decision to join forces against big tech with Rumble, Alec Baldwin's panicked deletion of his Twitter after a disastrous, potentially self-incriminating interview, and Jussie Smollett's laughable testimony in his own defense. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 New York City has implemented what is the most draconian lockdown we have ever seen. You now, if you live in New York City, need to have two vaccinations if you want to use any public accommodation, except for some exceptions. Now, all private sector workers must be fully vaccinated and all children ages 5 to 11 will need to have one dose of the vaccine. And this is where it gets a little murky. Do these 5 to 11 year olds need to have one dose of the vaccine. And this is where it gets a little murky. Do these five to 11 year olds need to have their IDs on them as well? Because the decree, as was put out by de Blasio, stated not only did you need a vaccination card, you needed an ID. So what? Are parents going to get their kids ID'd or how is this going to work?
Starting point is 00:00:42 This is the most extreme mandate we have seen in the country, and it certainly won't be the worst we've seen yet. Or I should say only yet, because it will likely get worse over in Europe, in Germany, Austria. They are implementing outright lockdowns for those who are unvaccinated, and it's resulted in rioting, which has been going on for the past several weeks and likely will continue. And I think I don't know what will happen in New York City because the deeply blue place where everybody just seems to be on board with getting, you know, three or four vaccines or whatever. But I think if this spreads beyond New York City into other areas, you might actually
Starting point is 00:01:15 see these protests. But it is very strange in Florida. They don't have these rules. So, you know, people are mostly just living free and people are flocking to Florida and places like Texas. So we'll read into all that. We'll see what's going on. We've got Devin Nunes.
Starting point is 00:01:27 He's retiring because of Donald Trump's new media venture, which apparently is doing a distribution deal with Rumble. So this is big, big news in the big tech alternative media ecosystem. Maybe some good news, maybe some bad news. And then we've got a bunch of news about Juicy Smollett. He testified today. Juicy Smollett he testified today Justice Smollett for those that don't know the Dave Spell joke
Starting point is 00:01:47 and Alec Baldwin so we're going to get in all of this stuff and break it down for y'all joining us today back again Mr. Daniel Turner always great to be here
Starting point is 00:01:54 thank you very much Daniel Turner Power of the Future Daniel Turner PTF it's great to be here thanks for coming back for like the 50th time yes
Starting point is 00:02:00 we always love having you around thank you and I'm here. There he goes yelling again. I'm wearing one of my favorite t-shirts that I absolutely love to wear. It was really fun wearing this t-shirt in Austin since there's a lot of communists and conservatives
Starting point is 00:02:15 there. I remember meeting a young, I think he was a communist because when he first saw my shirt and he saw the picture of Karl Marx he was excited and giddy and talking and then midway he read the headline of what it says here and it says a quote from a homeless man which says and I reached to you
Starting point is 00:02:32 carefully gives me that's and then his demeanor changed and he got all weird and he was like okay and then he didn't want to help me around the store conservative kind of like jeered at me. And then he finally read the shirt, and he was like, I love this shirt.
Starting point is 00:02:49 It's freaking awesome. And if you want this shirt, you can get it officially on thebestpoliticalshirts.com and support me and my efforts that way. And Ian, I have to say, you look like you got jumped by some Teletubbies recently. Are you okay? I feel like a snow cone. I love it. Tim actually found these at the store
Starting point is 00:03:06 and just felt compelled to dress me up. Oh yeah. Dude, I love this outfit, man. It's super warm. I don't know if it's a fleece or something. It's like,
Starting point is 00:03:14 what is it like? It looks like sherbet. Sherbet. Yeah, when you get that scoop. Yeah. The beanie's got a mushroom on it. And he's wearing an orange beanie with a mushroom. I was like, look at this beanie. It's got a mushroom. Yeah, you can. It's got a mushroom on it. And he's wearing an orange beanie with a mushroom.
Starting point is 00:03:25 I was like, look at this beanie. It's got a mushroom. It's got a mushroom. I'm jealous. It's so warm, dude. It's the warmest. I want to see the hood up eventually. There's a hood on it, too. Scoop of ice cream. I love it. Sherbet, though.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Oh, my gosh. You're so cute. Look at that. I love it. Here we go. That is a huge.... I love it. Here we go. That is a huge, you can't learn it. I freaking love it. Big brain. Awesome. Okay, well, I look really boring compared to Ian.
Starting point is 00:03:52 I'm just wearing my black sparkly sweater. I really like these colors. I'm also here in the corner pushing buttons. Very excited for another Monday night with you guys. Yeah, we're going to talk about the news before we get started. Head over to TimCast.com. We're going to have a members only segment coming up. For members only, around 11 or so p.m as a member you're supporting all
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Starting point is 00:04:38 Look at that cute little guy. He's angry, and he says, don't you step on me. And then, of course, we have our Visit Howard Springs, totally voluntary relocation camp and Australia poster and T-shirt. If you want to get those, that also helps support our work. But let's jump in to that first big story. Ladies and gentlemen, the most draconian lockdown we have seen yet. From NBC New York, NYC expands vaccine mandate to whole private sector, ups dose proof to
Starting point is 00:05:04 two and adds kids five to 11. Mayor Bill de Blasio announced the expansion Monday amid yet another COVID surge, driving case rates up across the five boroughs. All private sector workers in New York will be subject to the mayor's vaccine mandate starting December 27th, affecting 184,000 businesses. Will vaccine proof for indoor dining, fitness and entertainment will be required for children ages five to 11, according to a toughened vaccine mandate announced by Bill de Blasio on Monday. The current rule will also expand the required two dose required to two doses instead of
Starting point is 00:05:37 proof of only one. As for people age 12 and older, as they are concerned, the mayor said that excludes people who are vaccinated with Johnson and Johnson's single dose shot, which is interesting. Kids aged 5 to 11 only need to show proof of one dose when the requirement for them kicks in on December 14th, considering they only first became eligible for the initial dose early in November and must wait at least 21 days. de Blasio hinted late last week the changes to these policies, blah, blah, blah. And I wonder if they're going to make the kids present their identification. Now, what this mandate means is that 30, I believe the number is 30.9% of New York state residents will not be able to use these public accommodations in New York City. I don't
Starting point is 00:06:18 know what the full vax rate is for the city, but that's the state and nationwide. This means 40 point, I believe, what is it? 40.1% of American citizens will not be able to go to New York City as tourists and use any of these public accommodations. So this is outright setting up restrictions, controls, may as well put up borders and checkpoints around the city because they're basically saying a certain segment of the country will not be welcome in this place. And know what the people who are not vaccinated most likely we know this actually most of them are from the black community and then i would imagine many of the others are more likely to be moderate or conservative those people will likely leave and new york city will just become a ridiculous mass of deep blue, progressive, leftist, whatever. Yeah. I think this time it's going to work, though.
Starting point is 00:07:06 I think this measure will bring down the cases in the city. And so, you know what? Let's just give it a couple weeks. Thank heavens. Exactly. Are they still vaccinating for the Delta variant, even though now there's a new variant out? I don't think they were ever actually vaccinating for a specific variant. They were just saying, just go get the vaccine.
Starting point is 00:07:26 And it's for the original? The OG? Yeah, the OG. We should call this what this is. This is discrimination. This is segregation of populations. This is only going to further the political divide, further people moving out of New York City. And the mayor really used very interesting language to kind of describe what he's
Starting point is 00:07:42 doing. He said that this is a, quote, preemptive strike, which is very fitting for him to do that because a preemptive strike is when you attack people and kill them preemptively before doing anything else. That wasn't my words. That was literally Bill de Blasio saying, introducing this policy, saying we need to do this because of Omicron.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Omicron's here, we have to do this, even though all the initial reports are saying that people who have Omicron are the people who are vaccinated. Well, I don't know about that, but they're saying it's definitely mild. And I think even Fauci brought that up. But also he's going to be mandating small business owners. All businesses in New York are going to have to do this.
Starting point is 00:08:16 And so we've got this report out of the Daily Mail. These businesses are saying we are going to lose employees. So a battered economy. People are already struggling. And Bill de Blasio, look, I said it before, I'll say it again. I believe he intentionally is trying to destroy the city. And people say that's a bold claim, Tim. Why would he do that? Because in the past, Bill de Blasio said, we are going to buy up these buildings for pennies on the dollar and convert them to public housing. So there you go. There's his motive. motive there's his intent when you got a guy who's like
Starting point is 00:08:45 my intention is to buy cheap property that's big and we can turn into public housing and then all of a sudden he starts implementing policy after policy by decree that destroys property value i'm like what is this robocop robocop what other movies we have the big bad guy being like i'll destroy property values and buy it up wasn Wasn't that the Lego movie also? Yeah. Wasn't that the – Yeah, that was great. Classic.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Yeah, Mr. Boss or whatever his name was. Oh, is that what he was doing? My question here, and it's at the 30,000-foot level, at what point does an elected Democrat say, I don't have the authority to do that? Like what he's doing in New York. Biden said last week or maybe over the weekend, I'm going to mandate that the health insurance companies pay for this new test. And the insurance companies must have been like, does he have the authority to do that? Like, it amazes me that elected Democrat leaders, they never look at it as an issue or situation and say, oh, that's above my authority level. Everything they want to do, they feel that they have the right to do.
Starting point is 00:09:44 You're making me want to run for office as a Democrat. Not for any reason to be like, I'm going to buy buildings. I'd just be like, if you work in the automotive industry, then you have to bring me one of those Belgian waffles.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Have you ever had those things? The waffles in Dingus in New York, those carts that are all over the place? Do you know what speculus is oh my god no cookie butter good cookie butter it's those biscoff cookies they pulverize into a paste okay smear it on a sugar waffle with whipped cream and i'd be like oh you got to do it and then what's going to happen they're gonna back i'm not doing that about it's a mandate it's mandated i mean clearly what they're doing is unconstitutional and this is already ruled by the courts numerous times as it pertains to Joe Biden. Now, so Joe Biden's like, I hereby decree federal workers have to do this.
Starting point is 00:10:32 And then multiple courts are like, no, no. And the private sector lawsuits are already going through. And the Republicans are saying they're going to vote this down through their special power that the Senate has to challenge an executive order. We know Joe Biden is pushing the boundaries. We know that he's crossed the line. But Bill de Blasio is still doing the same thing. So I'll just put it this way. I think, you know, we need someone to run for office as a Democrat,
Starting point is 00:10:54 make all the promises in the world, and then just go nuts and decree the most ludicrous things and just be like, what sticks? Like, you got to bring me, you got to tithe to the city hall. Otherwise, you know, we'll send the cops. And the cops will do it. We'll send the cops to shut down your business. You as the mayor, he could probably just walk up to a business and be like, give me 50 bucks. And they'd be like, okay.
Starting point is 00:11:17 They do it. It's called taxes. And it's more than just 50 bucks. No, but I mean, like, he could literally just be like, it's for me. I want to go to a strip club. Give me the money. And they do it. I'd make everyone wear hats again.
Starting point is 00:11:26 You look at those old photos of New York in the 30s and 40s and everyone's wearing a hat. I would make everyone in New York has to wear a hat outside. Have to wear a hat. Perfect. Yes. Why not? I have the authority to do whatever I want. It is for your own good.
Starting point is 00:11:37 And if you can determine any policy because it's for the good of people, whether it's their health, well, I think aesthetic is very, very healthy as well. Y'all think we're joking at home, but they actually shut down churches and mosques and synagogues, and they went to the Jewish neighborhood and shut down schools. They chained parks shut so that the Jewish community couldn't have access to these things. Yo, if we have a politician who's outright like, you know that – what's the amendment where you're allowed to speak and practice your religion? That's the first amendment. Yeah, yeah, that one.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Yeah, it's done. Shut down the churches. And then even the courts were like, well, we're going to allow this. And then no one did anything. That person will become the new CEO of Twitter. If you have that philosophy, that's how you get a promotion. If we're at the point where these Democrats have literally just openly and assuredly
Starting point is 00:12:32 and confidently violated the Constitution and the police said, okay, you know, man, I'm sorry if I'm a little pessimistic sometimes, but right there, where were the people in New York to be like, we're not doing this? I mean, there were a lot of people who did, but certainly not enough. And it was a year ago, and you can all see
Starting point is 00:12:47 the footage online, New Year's Eve, where de Blasio and his wife danced in Times Square, and all of New York was shut down. They weren't allowed to go to the Times Square. There was no ball drop, but he was there with his wife dancing because he was the mayor, and he was allowed, and he wasn't masked, and that was a year ago.
Starting point is 00:13:03 We've been through a year of this BS that we're still playing all of these games of these lockdown and it was a year ago the french laundry a year ago nancy pelosi got her hair done gretchen gretchen whitmer we've made no progress gretchen whitmer in michigan got her hair done and she also shut down famously a barber in a small town that had no covid yeah it's a it's the perfect example these people are i mean look de blasio dancing in time square after he mandated everyone be kicked out and no one cares i mean i'm sure i'm sure a lot of people care but not enough to be like hey this guy's bad not enough obama had a huge birthday party which was supposed to be limited in number and had hundreds of celebrities coming from all around the world flying on their private jets to celebrate this as the corporate media was literally making excuses saying that
Starting point is 00:13:50 the sophisticated crowd don't have to follow the specific rules and regulations that everyone else does that's pretty much what they're trying to establish here and they've been doing it pretty successfully because when you look at these kind of decrees and i call them decrees these mandates these supposed laws they're not laws they're just literally politicians saying i'm gonna play god for a day when you look at who these decrees affect it's small and middle-class businesses because they can't afford to now hire a security guard to check everyone's paper they can't afford to keep employees on the payroll especially with a labor shortage that's that's absolutely eviscerating and destroying their
Starting point is 00:14:24 livelihoods and ability to even have a business. Who can be okay with these businesses, with these regulations, with these rules, with these decrees? Amazon, Walmart, CVS, Duane Reade. They could afford a loss here as everyone else gets eviscerated. So this is not only perpetuating the larger transfer of wealth and recorded human history. This is also accelerating the political segregation that's forcing a transfer of wealth and recorded human history. This is also accelerating the political segregation that's forcing a lot of people in New York City. I used to live in New York City before COVID to move out and say, you know what? I'm going to vote with my
Starting point is 00:14:53 dollar. I'm going to vote with my feet. I'm going to go to New Hampshire. I'm going to go to West Virginia. I'm going to go to Florida. I'm going to go somewhere where I'm respected, where I have freedom, where I have liberty, where I have sovereignty, where I am a human being and I could actually live my life without a jackboot thug officer looking over my shoulder, demanding my paperwork, identification with every little thing I do. What's happening in Europe right now, people are having dinners, police officers coming over them saying, give me your paperwork right now or we're going to punish you or we're going to steal more money from you or we're going to beat the crap out of you or we're going to put you in jail is absolutely insane and it's it's a violation of human rights i would argue it's actually a bit worse in new york city because the people who are enforcing this are the citizens you know in in you looked at germany you guys see that that video of the germans doing the military march and they all carry the torches yeah at the same time this story comes out where germany is
Starting point is 00:15:43 marching with torches there's a story out of Germany where it's like far-right marches with torches and are condemned for using them. It's like, sure, okay, whatever. But in New York, you look at Germany
Starting point is 00:15:53 and you look to Austria and you know who the Nazis are. You see the video out of Austria where the cops walk up to a random guy in the mall and they're like, give us your papers
Starting point is 00:16:00 and he pulls out his papers. But in New York, it's the people themselves. And this is one of the, this is a very clever thing done by the Democratic establishment and the people in New York. That they're like, we're having this, and our enforcers will be you. You snitching on your neighbor. So when you walk into the restaurant, it's the people who work there who say, no, no, no, you have to do this. Otherwise, we'll get in trouble.
Starting point is 00:16:21 So it's not the police. I mean, there are many police, but it's regular people. And so when I was talking about this many times, I'm like, they're the Nazis, the people, small business owners, these people who are willing to sell out all of their values and fall in line for draconian, unconstitutional edict from an executive. That's the problem. It's the banality of evil. Them just being like, it's mundane.
Starting point is 00:16:44 It's normal. I must ask a five-year-old for his ID. Otherwise, he can't come in. This hungry man, I'm sorry, you don't get access to public accommodations because of your medical condition or otherwise. Have a nice day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:55 You know what's fascinating is where New York is protecting the integrity of their healthcare system by mandating these requirements and the identification that you are compliant with the requirement. But when it comes to the integrity of their elections, if you proposed an ID system, they would. Oh, it's laughable.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Absolutely. A five-year-old has to have his ID now. What five-year-old has an ID? Exactly. What five-year-old has a driver's license? What ID do you have for a five-year-old? Exactly. And quite frankly, if I had a five-year-old and they were like, we want to take his picture for an ID, I'd be like, listen, creepy Jeffrey Epstein person.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I don't know who you are taking a photo of my five-year-old, but we don't – he doesn't need a five-year-old ID. You get – they'll probably say, no, no, that's crazy. You don't need an ID for this, just your VAX card. Well, the VAX card is effectively a form of identification. But they've always said that but no no every place in new york city that does these and they're becoming more rarer by the day you need to show your identification with your vax card so that people could validate that it's your vax card how else can you validate that it's someone's vax card if you don't have a proper form of identification you've mentioned small businesses in new york and i'm born and raised
Starting point is 00:18:00 in new york city and my whole family is basically still in new york city and you talk about living there like you go to a deli or a pizzeria the guy who owns it makes the pizza does the cash Raised in New York City, and my whole family is basically still in New York City. And you talk about living there. Like, you go to a deli or a pizzeria. The guy who owns it makes the pizza, does the cash register. If you have to add on top of his responsibilities, can I see your VAX card before I – I just – what do you want, a slice and a Coke? $2.25. Let's go. Next.
Starting point is 00:18:20 So now on top of this, I have to also check your status. Like I don't have time to do that. I'm trying to run a business. You bring up, I just want to get something to eat. Let's talk about this next story where a woman was effectively starved by the Canadian government. Woman goes 40 hours without eating in Trudeau quarantine facility. That's intense. So I recently, I did a fast over a day
Starting point is 00:18:47 during the holidays because actually the day before we were going to have our Thanksgiving dinner, I'm like, I am not eating today. And then tomorrow I am going to have Thanksgiving. And fasting is not easy. I wouldn't say it's like the hardest thing in the world, but 40 hours, basically two days, because she's going to sleep. She's probably going to get some food before bed, hopefully. Woman goes 48 hours without eating. A woman with an extreme celiac eating disease has told media she did not eat any food for 40 hours in Trudeau's quarantine facility. Let me tell you what a quarantine facility is. It's an internment camp. And the definitions get murky, but James Lindsay had an excellent tweet from the Holocaust Museum explaining what a concentration camp is. It is a facility that detains people without due process.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Interesting. They said what separates concentration camps from normal prisons is that there is no due process, and you are taken without any chance to defend yourself, go to trial, anything like that. So it is different if you fly in somewhere and you know by going here, you will be subject to this. What's going on in Australia is very different. They're going to people's homes and taking them without due process. Now, they say this woman from Edmonton, Alberta, she had to stay in quarantine hotel in Toronto after flying back from Ethiopia. The woman did not eat as the facility did not provide her with gluten-free food.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Celiacs can become seriously unwell if they break their strict diet. The woman and her husband had to quarantine until they received a negative test result as they had been to South Africa recently.
Starting point is 00:20:15 This is despite the fact that her husband had three doses and she had two. They were quarantined at the Hilton Hotel. The woman said she had to be careful with the food she eats. So I've known people with celiacs who get sick to the point of hospitalization if they eat gluten.
Starting point is 00:20:31 It's like an allergy. I don't know if it's – allergy and celiacs are not the same thing, are they? No, I don't think so. Celiac is an autoimmune disease, which a lot of my family has because for some odd reason, it's very common in Irish women. Huh, really? I'm lucky. I have a lot of female cousins who have celiac. So it's not an allergy.
Starting point is 00:20:49 It's an autoimmune disease. I think my friend had an allergy, and they were like legit, can't eat it, get sick, swelling, potential anaphylaxis and stuff like that. And you take it seriously. So if you're being forced into quarantine, but they're not providing proper accommodation, this is just – I'll put it this way. There's a big difference, like I said, if you choose to fly into a place where you know they're not providing proper accommodation. This is just, I'll put it this way. There's a big difference, like I said, if you choose to fly into a place where you know they're doing this.
Starting point is 00:21:10 That being said, I still think it's a violation of human rights to bar people from traveling with this coercive method. Basically what they're saying is like, when they initially launched this, I think Australia and Canada were like, it's $2,000. If you fly in, you've got to pay for the quarantine. And so that's basically saying, sorry, people, only if you're rich.
Starting point is 00:21:30 So I think we're at a point where it feels to me like everything they're doing is a coercive measure to just push people down. They don't give you the right food. There's videos of people and they take photos of their food. And one guy was like, here's what I was given. It's one slice of bologna on two pieces of white bread in a quarantine and now you have in australia they're upping it to taking you from your home randomly without you traveling yeah well it's incremental first it's it's just going to be two weeks to slow the spread then it's
Starting point is 00:21:56 just wear the mask just take this vaccine just take a second vaccine a third vaccine a fourth vaccine oh you want to travel somewhere. You can only do it if you're rich, if you're established. And this is the first horror story from one of these quarantine facilities, quote, quarantine facilities. There was multiple stories of women getting assaulted. There's multiple stories of security guards literally going into the rooms, which they have to keep open for security guards, security guards having their way with people. Again, family-friendly show, so we're not going to go too into the details here. But absolutely disgusting things have happened all in the name of government looking out for your safety and security, and they're not doing any of those.
Starting point is 00:22:38 This is a larger power grab. This is all about acquiescence. This is all about slowly pushing you to comply with a bigger and bigger and bigger request. And it's only going to get worse from here, in my opinion. I think the message takeaway, if it's possible, is what we saw with a lot of the Biden mandates when people just said, I'm not going to comply. And then the courts ruled in our favor and said, yeah, this is a total violation. Hopefully, New Yorkers, it's going to take one small business to be the first
Starting point is 00:23:06 one to say, you know what? We're not checking IDs. And then another will follow and another will follow. But that first person to take that risk though is- Well, it's happened. Yeah. And they have to do more of it. There was a deli and then this one guy went around with flyers, handing them out and they started putting them up in windows. That bar in Staten Island also, that guy was pretty famous. I forget his name. There was a bar in Staten Island who refused to shut down and he had been
Starting point is 00:23:25 at the gym in New Jersey. Those guys are on TV quite a lot. Well, I was in New York City a couple days ago and no one's enforcing anything. No one is asking people to wear masks. No one asked me for my identifications or vaccine papers. I went around. Some people are complying. Some people aren't. But
Starting point is 00:23:41 businesses, especially if you run a business in New York City, you know you can't do everything. So to enforce this ridiculous decree where everyone has to give up their ID and medical records just to go into a store, I mean, even the people who do comply aren't for this because people forget their papers. They lose their papers. They lose their documents. Their whole identification system is on a piece of paper that literally anyone could print out, which the federal authorities have made illegal to do so. But but well, using the seat, using federal government logos or anything like that. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:24:09 So right now in Florida, I think it's Advent Medical Network, a big hospital announced they've suspended their vaccine mandate because the courts have ruled unconstitutional or they've effectively frozen it. So the interesting thing is, I think this is Biden's strategy all along. I think the strategy that we're seeing from these governments is tell people you have to do it and then cross their fingers that people will do it before they realize the government has no authority to do this. So Biden is like, we're going to mandate this. It's done. And it's like that was a press conference.
Starting point is 00:24:40 There's no decree. There's no executive order. But then businesses come out and they just say, well, Biden said we have to. So everyone go do it by this date or else. Much people then say, OK, then they come back and say, oh, you know what? They just said we don't have to do it. So you don't have to do it. If that were me, if I worked for a company, I'd file a lawsuit against the company. Yeah. And I'd be like, hold on. Joe Biden never issued the decree. Joe Biden never formalized the executive order. OSHA eventually put up the rule and it was suspended. But before then, a lot of companies like airlines were like,
Starting point is 00:25:10 well, Joe Biden said federal workers and contractors have to have it. I would then say the company lied, use it as an excuse, decreed we get an irreversible medical procedure. I can never take that back. I'm suing. And it's not just New York City that I experienced a lot of people just not complying, not going along with this nonsense. It's also being reported in Ottawa that by and large, their vaccine mandate has failed because of the labor shortages and businesses not being able to be open because of these strict rules and regulations that they have on people. And another aspect of these mandates that we have to understand here, they're cruel and unusual because also of the larger question of liability. So if I get hurt and I get forced
Starting point is 00:25:50 to take this vaccine, who's liable? I am. I'm paying the medical bills. The person who forced you to do this, the government that forced you to do this, the pharma that created this product, they're not liable for anything that happens to you if you are hurt or injured during the process of this vaccine. So that's another aspect of it that people need to understand. And a lot of people are asking the very basic question, you really want me to take this. Why don't you take some liability on yourself? So there are stories of people coming forward and saying, look, I'll print a liability form. You just guarantee liability for yourself if you're forcing me to do this.
Starting point is 00:26:24 And many businesses are like, okay, you don't have to take this vaccine. I told people, if you work for a company that says we're doing a vax mandate, show up the next day and be like, I think it's wonderful you're doing this. Absolutely. Now, this is a liability waiver saying that you as an employer are requiring this for me and you assume all risks associated with the medical procedure. See what they say. And if they say no, I'd be like, that's that's really interesting why you don't think it's safe and then if they say well why why do you want us to sign this object well because you're requiring it like if i told if i told you i required you to drive a car and then you crashed the car who's responsible for
Starting point is 00:26:56 like the business like if i if i was driving a pizza a pizza truck for for a company and then i get and someone hits me that's injury an injury on the workplace, right? So they deal with it. What's the matter, boss? You think it's unsafe? Sign it. But guess what? A lot of businesses probably will be like, sure, and they will.
Starting point is 00:27:12 And then, hey, there you go. For the rest of your life, you're identified. They assumed all responsibility. And then you got to include it to something like in the event of the dissolution of the business, the liability folds over to the company's owners and principal officers, et cetera, et cetera. And then see how fast they say, I can't sign that. They'll be like, oh, you wanted me to assume the liability for this medical procedure? That's a weird thing to ask for.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Maybe you've got some great lawyer who's listening to the podcast right now who can make those readily available online. They are available online. And people have been talking to them and they've been being shared. And I've been hearing multiple stories of people printing this out and saying you know you want me to get this I will but you take liability and you take responsibility for forcing this medical procedure
Starting point is 00:27:51 on me that might cause me some problems and then here's what else you do if they say no to that you have a backup and say okay well the next one says that you are refusing to assume the requirement liability the liabilities for requirement of the vaccine and thus will not be punishing me because you decided you didn't want
Starting point is 00:28:09 to sign this form. So, I mean, you can do clever things. You could say like the liability waiver is actually a like a request form. Like this is the document saying that you are hereby requesting I get the vaccine for continued employment. And then, you know, it also includes assumption of liability and all the standard legal stuff for your request. And then if they say, whoa, whoa, I don't want to sign that. You can be like, well, if you refuse to sign the document saying you require me to get the vaccine, sign this one saying you are hereby exempting me from the vaccine. I got to sign one of them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:38 They'll be like, oh, I won't sign either. You just got to do it. Like, oh, then sign the one that says I got to do it. Prove it. Yeah. Or just respecting people's exemptions. There's people who literally can't take the vaccine because of allergies, because of previous medical conditions, because of religious beliefs.
Starting point is 00:28:53 You have to respect people's individual's beliefs and their own individual medical history. We get it. But we're so far beyond that at this point. You know, like how long has it been since it's been months? You know, I had a fox news van pulls up and they're like hop on tim and it was i was like they just decreed the mandate for the first time in new york and there's no medical exemptions and i i look back at that interview which like apparently got picked up and i was like that was a stupid argument i was like how dare
Starting point is 00:29:18 they mandate this with no medical exemptions and i'm just like now i'm just like how how do they mandate this period regardless? But I feel like it's just – I don't know what else to say other than, hey, this keeps happening. It's going to keep happening, and it's going to be escalated. They're going to turn up the heat. So I don't know what else to tell you other than get out of cities because people in New York keep voting for the same thing. And so long as you've got people living in the matrix and you don't want to live there, well, to choose take the blue or red i would say new york city is copying europe's homework europe is copying australia's homework and that's the plan that they literally have envisioned for everyone in
Starting point is 00:29:53 particular stages they just call it different names but essentially when you see the larger implication of this social credit score police state that they're putting on to everyone it's happening in different layers in different stages new york city is going where europe is and in europe it's it's going to such an insane level where italy just joined austria and germany with their new lockdowns against the unvaccinated people and they just implemented their super green pass but austria is literally putting forward a decree that by february 15th people have to be vaccinated or face penalties from the state, which may include fines or jail time for not taking a vaccine. Which means if you're at home, you don't even go outside.
Starting point is 00:30:38 You're on lockdown because of the government. You still will be punished for sitting at home in isolation by yourself. The government is making legalese language exempt from the Nuremberg Code to literally force their way into your life, even if you don't participate in society. The Nuremberg Code thing is hyperbole. It's people who don't understand what it says. A post-millennial put out an article saying that European Union chiefs union chiefs wants to do with the european nuremberg code she never said that she didn't say that but they are implying no they because she said that we should maybe have a
Starting point is 00:31:14 vaccine mandate she didn't even say we should she didn't say we're gonna do this she said maybe there's something european countries should do and then someone took that and said well that would violate the nuremberg code because the nuremberg code says to participate in an experiment requires consent and so i'm like okay y'all are playing semantic manipulation break this down properly because here's what's going to happen you're going to get someone who's going to see that story from the post-millennial and i like them you know we're fans of libby libby emmons but they're going to be at a family gathering whatever they're going to say the the the chief european union lady said she wants to get rid of the nuremberg code now and then they're going to pull up on google and be like she literally never
Starting point is 00:31:48 said anything of the sort she said she wanted to start a conversation about mandating vaccines throughout all the european union which is the conversation which then if you start from there and talk about what to what degree the vaccine is experimental so you know the argument is that because there's no long-term testing and because they don't have uh the insert says like we don't know the risks to pregnant women people are arguing well that means it is experimental and it's like sure there's a big difference between saying we're going to force someone to drink vodka and watch ratatouille you know because that's like some of the experiments they do at these universities that's actually that's actually
Starting point is 00:32:20 one of them the ones i did they gave me vodka and then i watched i think i watched ratatouille that's a great movie. And they wanted to see like – I did an aptitude – like a general quiz at the end of it. But that's experimentation. The Nuremberg Code specifically is like if we're going to bring you to a lab and do studies on you, you have to consent to it. To say that someone is getting an emergency vaccine and that's violating the Nuremberg Code is like, well, you could get your lawyers in there and make that argument. But all I'm saying is call it whatever you want. Make sure your language is precise.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Otherwise, you're going to lose the argument. Well, they're not getting it. They're being coerced into getting it and manipulated into getting it by government taking away their access to society. I get that. I'm just saying people are talking about the Nuremberg Code without actually having looking into the source material and you will lose arguments. You will not convince anybody by being hyperbolic. But can we just back up and recognize the fact that like Italy and Germany are making an alliance?
Starting point is 00:33:15 Does that – It's not like raising – And Austria. And what did – It's a triple on top. Exactly. And what did the Quillette people say? They were like, Tim Pool is raising the specter of the Holocaust.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Not only that, but German soldiers are literally marching around with tiki torches, honoring their leader, Angela Merkel, as 150 major German corporations just announced that they're going to conduct the largest vaccination promotion effort ever, literally regurgitating the government's talking points, trying to impose their will on the people of Germany. So there's a lot of parallels. Let's pull this up. We got this story from the local.de. This is a German news source explained. Why is German Twitter up in arms over a torchlight military parade? It's not so much that a bunch of, you know, German, you know, military men of some some degree are marching through the night with torches.
Starting point is 00:34:14 It's that Germany is also implementing lockdowns for the unvaccinated. We're seeing in Australia, now this is outside of Germany, the internment camps where you will be taken from your home with no due process and then detained in a little tiny box where they tell you you can only go outside to do your laundry. You can't – or you have a balcony. Sorry, but you can't cross the line. You'll be fined $5,000. So Germany, as Daniel just mentioned, Italy, Austria, all coming together and being like, we are going to mandate this injection upon the populace. Otherwise, you can't have food. And now they're marching around with torches. Does their camp have a little sign above it that says the vaccine sets you free or something like that?
Starting point is 00:34:57 Those are the arguments that government bureaucrats have been making. Take this vaccine, do as you're told, and you're going to gain your freedoms back. You're going to gain your access to society back. You're going to be able to go to a restaurant and purchase food. Well, even Biden has hinted at that. Yeah. More than hinted at it.
Starting point is 00:35:16 He said that as much. And that's such a backwards, insane kind of critical way of thinking that we have to first understand on face value, they're the ones who took away normal life.'re the ones who take took away economic prosperity they're the ones who took away our ability to live a normal prosperous happy healthy life they're the ones literally implementing policies that have created more depression more suicide lack of economic opportunities have impoverished people and literally have stolen their wealth right in front of them, literally disappearing the value of their dollar as it sits in their hands. The value of the dollar is being extremely devalued.
Starting point is 00:35:53 And people are finding that less and less they have the ability to do anything that they want and every aspect of their existence is being tightly regulated and controlled by bureaucrats who think they're gods ruling over you. The funny thing is this is actually an old story. It's from October, the German torch story. What were they marching about, though? It is kind of weird to have it at nighttime. No, they were celebrating Angela Merkel, and this was a pay of respect. They were marching to honor those who risked their lives or lost their lives in their operations in Afghanistan as part of the withdrawal.
Starting point is 00:36:26 And so this is back in October. This story, at least. I don't know. Maybe they did it again for Angela Merkel, but this is the story on the local. And the funny thing is they're marching next to the Reichstag. Is that how you pronounce it? Yes. With torches in their hands.
Starting point is 00:36:37 So the funny thing is when they announced that they were going to be locking down anybody who didn't get the the the uh the vaccine a lot of people were like oh there's germany getting back to tradition and getting back to their roots of you know mandated medical procedures and then this photo is actually old and people are like hey maybe something's been going on in germany that we haven't been paying attention to yeah there was a joke i can't remember who did it um do you maybe one of you guys remember he was like who was this who was i saw this recently um hold on i'm trying to think i can't remember he said that uh if if he were like the un or whatever after world war ii you know who this was maybe he was like we'd tell germany you don't get
Starting point is 00:37:16 to be a country anymore it's like you started a war against the world like literally try to like norm mcdonald maybe yeah i think it was norm mcdonald he was like you started a war against the world yeah so uh you don't get to be a country anymore because look what happens when we just like let them keep doing their things it's a weird thing but you know if you don't have you know i love the most about the european union in germany is that we literally have like two wars in a cold war in an attempt to prevent the the consolidation of power in europe under one governing authority. And then Germany comes along and they're like,
Starting point is 00:37:48 hey guys, let's do this union thing. We'll have the strongest economy. Your currencies will all be devalued and then you'll have to borrow from us. And Germany basically becomes the dominant power in the European Union. It's amazing. I have a pretty lit friend on the right who I won't say his name, but who has a whole
Starting point is 00:38:03 theory that Germany is the worst country in the history of civilization. Interesting. Because starting – and he's very, very Catholic, starting with Martin Luther and the Reformation. Oh, yeah, yeah. And he goes through every 1,500 years, something has come from Immanuel Kant, something comes out of Germany that is destructive to the rest of the Western values, ending with the Green Movement in Germany.
Starting point is 00:38:26 He's like, I have evidence that Germany is – no offense to any of your German listeners. Germany is the worst country in the history of Western civilization. It's a pretty funny theory. Was communism coming out of Germany? Where was Karl Marx from? Was he from Austria? Yeah, was it? I thought he was German.
Starting point is 00:38:45 The Frankfurt School, was that from Frankfurt? Yeah. Yeah, was it? I thought he was German. The Frankfurt School? Was that from Frankfurt? I don't want to be a little dull. I don't know. They say it's the Frankfurt School. Is the answer that obvious? Sure. Frankfurt, Germany?
Starting point is 00:38:54 Karl Marx is German. Marx is German. Yeah, Marx is German. Marx was German? Yes. What are these guys doing? Exactly. Now, Beethoven was also German.
Starting point is 00:39:01 We do love him very much. This is the funniest thing about white nationalists and their views. I'm like, yo, these bad ideas literally came from Germany, dude. You guys were just full of bad ideas. I think the white nationalists don't identify with the communists, but I'm like, yo, you guys need to rethink ideology because you have no idea what you're talking about because you just sound really dumb when we look at Germany and like hey all of the bad stuff like the extremist ideologies of that era mostly came from like
Starting point is 00:39:32 these places yeah we want freedom you know the people who came to the Americas were just kind of like yo we want to do our thing even if it means like landing a boat on a barren shore in the woods and just building right there and like these people would get on these boats, and they'd be like, well, one-fifth of the people on these boats are going to die before we even make it there.
Starting point is 00:39:51 And then once we do, another half will die before winter comes. Let's hope we have enough water. Don't run out of apples. How long are we going to be on the boat? I don't know. Four months? Three months? Depends upon the wind.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Yeah. They have to bring like limes with them how did they pull that off did everyone just have scurvy and they're all like hunched over when they arrived i can't imagine the folks who did it for back and forth full-time the traders right hence the dutch each is the dutch east india company being i think still to this day considered the most wealthy company in the history of the world. Yeah. But imagine going across seas and you do it again. You come back, you go back.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Holy cow. The amazing thing about it was how many people they killed over making food taste better. Yeah. It's like, dude, sometimes when I have steak, we just give a little salt on it, I guess.
Starting point is 00:40:36 But man, they were ready to colonize, invade, destroy, burn, pillage, murder, and, you know, enslave. Did I say that? All because they were like, food must taste better. Cinnamon. Pepper. Saffron.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Black peppercorn, man. That was it. My understanding is that black peppercorn was like, they would stab you. Conquer the world. To sprinkle it on their food. I admit, black pepper tastes good, but now everyone's got it on every diner table. Yeah, we are very lucky. We are very privileged.
Starting point is 00:41:12 And that privilege and that luck is slowly being taken away from us by a sinister group of really bad billionaire corporatists. But throughout history, when you look at history, they not only tell very interesting tales, but one common thread is always these crazy megalomaniac people trying to rule the entire world, trying to take over the entire world, whether it was Caesar, Napoleon, Genghis Khan, Alexander the Great, Hillary Clinton, Attila the Hun, Vlad the Impaler, there was always a group of people that wanted the entire world for themselves. And I think it would be naive to think that there isn't another kind of person or group that wants to do that today. And I think a lot of the crazy policies that violate human rights are their way of doing it, of slowly incrementally putting it on us without us noticing that there is someone trying who want control of a lot of things that's just history like you were mentioning but i think back to the movie the patriot because i love that movie so much when um and you guys have seen it with mel gibson sure he's meeting with i think corn wallace
Starting point is 00:42:13 and they're discussing discussing you know officer exchange or whatever and it's like a trick or something but he but the corn wallace is like we're going to discuss you the cease the cessation of the targeting of officers on the field. And he was like, gladly, when your officers stopped targeting children. And then apparently that scene, like the British got really mad, like the actual British were like, we've never done that. That didn't happen. But anyway, I digress. The point was, in that film, they make the point that during war, they'd be like, okay, we're all going to go out and march and kill each other, but spare the officers.
Starting point is 00:42:42 And Cornwallis was like, could you imagine what battlefields would be like without gentlemen in charge you'd be chaos this is the same attitude it persists today the ultra wealthy elites are like oh we'll go to war but don't worry if you lose you're fine you know we'll we'll we'll take care of you go to exile whatever we'll just kill all of your all of your civilians and citizens and then you as the wealthy and powerful elite for the most part you're. Except when it comes to more modern warfare. Now it's like if you defy the established order, like they'll invade your country and they'll just burn everything to the ground. Like Hillary Clinton, we came, we saw, he died.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Now it's gotten like just very straightforward war, death, murder, et cetera. Or they will cancel you. That's also another way. And I think the more we're moving from modern warfare, we're moving into a different form where I think it's psychological. I think people inflicting harm on themselves after being brainwashed and propagandized is an aspect of this that we should be entertaining. Because if you look at the kind of biggest increase in cause of death, suicide and deaths of despair are becoming more and more common, and they're growing every single day. So I wouldn't be surprised if that's another layer, another aspect of fourth-generational warfare or some people would say fifth-generational warfare. I think we have to entertain all of those aspects, especially because this concept of one person bombing and attacking and conquering another place has failed throughout human history. And I think there's powerful people who are a lot smarter than that.
Starting point is 00:44:12 And they have started to implement it in a different way where it's not really that obvious. Because if it was, too many people would resist them, just like in recorded human history. They resisted them and they weren't able to fully successfully take over. Well, let's talk about la resistance. have this story from the post millennial trump's new media platform and rumble have distribution deal there is a lot of good to discuss here there's also a decent amount of bad and concern and the notable thing here is they say howard lutnik the ceo of rumble's parent company, Cantor Fitzgerald, stated on Monday that they have worked out a distribution deal with Donald Trump's planned truth social media platforms.
Starting point is 00:44:50 I want to say right now, when they say that, the CEO of Rumble's parent company is Cantor Fitzgerald. That means Rumble is now a subsidiary of institutional Wall Street investment firms that are one of 24 investment firms that can do direct dealings with the Federal Reserve. So this does not sound to me like an independent, free, safe place to run your business. It sounds just like they're building the B side to big tech. However, that being said, you were saying earlier that this Lutnick guy was like a big Trump supporter. Yes, the CEO of Kenneth Fitzgerald is.
Starting point is 00:45:25 I totally get your point. But there's good news here. That's why I bring it up. There is good news. I mean, we do need alternatives, and I think a plurality of voices is the way to go. But, yeah, I share your concern that if it's just owned by another Wall Street company who is going to have to follow SEC regulations, and SEC regulations under this administration could be,
Starting point is 00:45:45 unless 75% of the board of all of your subsidiaries are made up of people who we agree with their political persuasion, then you can't get your, you know, you can't trade on the big board. There's a possibility here that this is a massive concerted effort among powerful interests to counter the woke establishment big tech because rumble getting this access and getting this investment getting this power could be a good thing if you believe in this stuff i think the bigger risk is you know ian mentioned this as soon as they open as soon as they go public with the they did a spec a special
Starting point is 00:46:22 purpose acquisition company rumble opens the door to Vanguard. Was it State Street? BlackRock buying up percentages of the company and then putting pressure on them, and then they're basically just Googling it. So it's almost like there's a fear of a controlled opposition. If the company remained private, we have more reason to believe that they'll actually stick to their principles and not censor and ban people. But let's read a little bit of the news here first, and then we'll get into the tech stuff. Truth and the 45th president are going to use Rumble's infrastructure, their technology,
Starting point is 00:46:49 their cloud distribution capability. So they are going to be a service provider, a tech provider to the president's Truth Social, Lutnik told interviewer John Bachman on his John Bachman Now show. They got Joe Rogan here for some reason. Rumble, a video-based pro fee pro free speech platform works in a similar manner manner to other streaming services and full disclosure
Starting point is 00:47:09 we here at timcast we use rumble infrastructure and we are more confident we won't get banned there but that being said we'll speak honestly lutnick continued during the interview what this is is people with political ideology being asked to leave youtube comedians are now coming over gamers are coming over it's a broad group of people who don't want to be censored. They want to be able to speak their minds, speak their truths, and speak their opinions, so I think Rumble, which is neutral down the middle,
Starting point is 00:47:33 I think it's going to get a huge following of people who just want to speak their minds. Lutnick further iterated that Rumble, after the deal struck with this company, will now have the money to now go do whatever they want to do. I mean, that's potentially good news, right? Right off the bat.
Starting point is 00:47:49 This means that all the people who are worried about not having a way to compete with YouTube's infrastructure can now go somewhere else, and there's going to be revenue there. What Rumble needs to do right now is they need to use as much money as they can to create a comparable partner program that YouTube has. Cause the number one thing that keeps people from leaving this platform is audience
Starting point is 00:48:12 size, but more importantly for newer creators and new talent, it's the fact that YouTube is subsidized by Google alphabet, whatever. So you, YouTube costs Google money, but they subsidize it so that people stay on this platform. If Rumble can do the same thing, and I also think they do got to clean up their interface and their website needs a little messy, then people are going to be like, look, if I'm going to start a channel somewhere, why go on YouTube? Someone is making a new channel is going to speak out and speak up against all of this BS going bs going on around the world they're going to say if i go on youtube i'll get a strike right like elijah schaefer and sydney watson for instance on you are here they've gotten how many strikes already like takedowns a couple yeah already and the show's new so there's gonna be a lot of people being like i just do it on rumble i don't have you know people without big followings without a ton of followers will just be like, I'll start a Rumble channel and then at the very least I can make money there the exact same way I could make it on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:49:09 It's funny. The same article – I assume this is from today or the last couple of days, this article. Axios has a totally different spin where I think the headline is – I should pull it up. The headline is something like – Right-wing echo chamber. The right-wing echo chamber. And it's funny. First of all, to think that the left isn't just one echo chamber, right?
Starting point is 00:49:27 Like every single publication, newspaper, TV outlet is literally just saying the exact same thing as the DNC. And it's insulting to call it an echo chamber because it's not. It's a platform. But it's just it's Axios' spin. We have the article right here. This is how the media lies, right? Right-wing builds its own echo chamber is an opinion, and it's also incorrect.
Starting point is 00:49:51 It's a false framing. But for them to put this on a news article, it shows you why we need alternative platforms in the way to counter this. It's not an echo chamber. Just because different right-wing websites exist doesn't mean people don't read other news. An echo chamber would be a cultural phenomenon where people are like, I'm not going to watch any other news. But we know from the data, conservatives get about a third of their news from mainstream liberal or leftist sources, whereas liberals get 5%. So what we're actually seeing here, the news is right wing media emerges. And it's not even right-wing. It's independent, moderate, libertarian, and conservative.
Starting point is 00:50:28 You know what's an echo chamber? The YouTube front page. You go on that, and it's the same voices, the same political opinions regurgitated to you in so many different formats. I'm skeptical. Apple News. Sorry, whenever you swipe to the left and you get to the news thing, look at the top stories on Apple News, Echo Chamber. So, sorry. Same talking points, same headlines, same kind of narrative, nothing deviating from, of course, the larger agenda that's set against the American people.
Starting point is 00:50:54 But I'm skeptical of Rumble, but it's going to be very interesting to see how they're going to kind of traverse this online landscape, where they're going to go, how they're going to be different, or if they're just going to be sellouts. I'm skeptical because of things like the ESG, the environmental, social justice, and government's social credit score that a lot of top companies have to be compliant with. And the more essentially woke you are, the more you sell out to the agenda and narrative, the better score you have, the more investment money you have, the more economic opportunities you have, the better evaluations you have. So this is a key indicator of how it's going to be playing out for many large corporations. So to see Rumble in this system, if it's going to be played by it, if it's going to be destroyed by it, I think it's worth starting a conversation about because it's going to be very interesting to see if this is just going to be another sellout major big tech company that has a bunch of people at the top who want to make a bunch of money or if it's going to be something that stronger you push, the more powerful I become.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Yes, challenge me. Get bigger. Get stronger. And then I'll buy you. Do it. They have the one ring. They're trying to defeat Soran with another one ring. I can do it.
Starting point is 00:52:15 I can withstand the pressure of having a billion-dollar centralized social network with proprietary. No one can withstand that, man. They're coming with billions and billions of SECs coming and the government's coming. Like, it's not Chris's company anymore. Rumble's gone. It's not, but I still think this is a big net positive as much as I don't think it's a permanent solution. They mentioned at Postmillennial that Trump's anti-big tech social media startup raised
Starting point is 00:52:39 $1 billion from investors over the weekend to fund the digital venture. Quote, $1 billion sends an important message to big tech that censorship and political discrimination must end. America is ready for truth social, a platform that will not discriminate on the basis of political ideology, Trump stated. This will be interesting because, look, I signed up for a rumble. I'm sorry, not rumble, parlor. We are on rumble, but I signed up for parlor like okay okay
Starting point is 00:53:05 this is like the 80th time they've been like this is the alternative and then trump now i guess he's using the mastodon code to launch his own version yeah and they've acknowledged that as of yesterday oh okay well at any rate this is one i will actually immediately sign up for i'll be like okay you know i'll use this because it's donald trump it's it's there's there's power behind it and there's going to be a big push from everybody who wants to follow donald trump to be on that platform that makes it viable one of the things that makes it really difficult for all these other alternative platforms is are there people there to talk to youtube's got it twitter's got it facebook has it but no one really cares about facebook for the most part now these
Starting point is 00:53:44 alternatives they don't really have it that much even rumble does not really have it so what they did was they got you know they paid for people like like uh siraj has a show there right and glenn greenwald and a few other people were paid by rumble to do you know programming on their platform because they need people otherwise why would you go there? All of this stacking up, I actually think we might be saying what I've long been asking for. So I don't want to rain on the parade. Now that we're seeing this deal
Starting point is 00:54:13 and we're seeing this investment and this infrastructure, it looks like a lot of free speech voices or at the very least people who are mad about being censored are being like, if we don't do something against big tech, we will lose.
Starting point is 00:54:25 And I've been saying that over and over again. They think they can go in and say, Section 230 reform. And I'm like, yo, you're sitting on fat stacks. Why don't you just be like, okay, here's $10 million to fund the initial infrastructure to get this going. Well, now there's a billion dollars. And it was raised, I guess, by investors buying through the SPAC. So all in all, I think it's pretty good news.
Starting point is 00:54:46 But of course, but of course, and we're going to get into the important part here. Did you think, my friends, it would be that easy? From CNBC, Trump SPAC under investigation by federal regulators, including the SEC. The SEC and FINRA probes were disclosed by a filing by Digital World Acquisition Corp., the special purpose acquisition company on track to merge with Trump Media and Technology Group. They're already fighting back. The government is coming after Trump and a social media platform because I think it actually is a threat to their established narrative BS.
Starting point is 00:55:19 It's going to be interesting because Trump kind of plays like he's a part of the establishment and then kind of counters the establishment. I obviously don't have a lot of hope in him personally myself after his latest moves, especially with some of the interviews that he's been given on Fox News recently, shilling for, of course, Big Pharma. That's my kind of perspective. That's my understanding of it. So to see the government kind of hit him, I think it's more personal than it is anything else. And I think there's a bigger fight here,
Starting point is 00:55:48 and we have to acknowledge that fight is happening. But I still see it as one wing of the same bird kind of slapping each other at the end of the day, from my own perspective. I think if you are the social media platforms, look at what Zuckerberg did in the 2020 election through Facebook and how he, I mean, Molly Hemingway's book on that is just absolutely brilliant. Her book Rigged and how Zuckerberg spent his way into flipping the election in key states for the Democrats. They're not going to give up that power pretty easily. So I'm not surprised that the FEC is going after this, or the SEC is going after it, because they don't want to lose their power. And the Biden administration, I mean, they use government authoritatively
Starting point is 00:56:34 whenever they get the chance. I mean, that's the lesson they learned from Obama also. Heck, today also Merrick Garland announced he's suing the state of Texas again because of their redistricting, because they don't want the districts drawn that way, because they don't want it drawn that way, because they want to turn Texas blue. So what is their lawsuit based on? Based on the fact that we don't like Texas.
Starting point is 00:56:53 And what did Bill Barr do? Nothing. Yeah, nothing. You know, look, Republicans and Democrats, they're both establishment. The reason the Republicans haven't been doing anything for years is because they're just stopping the populist movement and the working class from actually getting anything done. And the Democrats, because they have a bunch of ignorant young people just marching blindly behind them, they're able to crack the whip and get away with it because of the tribal nature of what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:57:19 But, I mean, this should be alarm bells to anybody. Trump starts a media company and all of a sudden the SEC is investigating? Dude, I'm calling BS on that. Come on. We saw what happened with Obama and the Tea Party and the IRS using the power of the government to harass and coerce and go after anyone who opposes you. Yep, this is just them vying for power. And when they have power, they, of course, conceal it for themselves, use it for their own personal benefit. And when you see it from that perspective, these larger kind of spats and fights kind of do make sense
Starting point is 00:57:47 because it's, you know, the left wing versus the right wing. So we have seen that this abused so much. And I remember even doing a news story about 10 years ago talking about how social media could decide elections. There was numerous studies being done that came to the conclusion saying, if you just tweak the algorithm a little bit, if you just tweak what people see and don't see, you could literally change the future of this country. This was something that we were talking about 10 years ago. I think this has become something that's not just a possibility. I think it's a reality. And I think we need to acknowledge what you mentioned is that big tech
Starting point is 00:58:21 social media does affect elections, does affect who gets voted in, and, of course, they have a clear side with anyone who, of course, does their bidding, who, of course, anyone who works for them and is willing to help them out at the end of the day. And they have pure financial interest, right? I mean, look at some of the players in this, not social media, but it's media. Michael Bloomberg, one of the top what richest people in the nation uh the two guys from google alphabet uh top five richest people in uh the nation zuckerberg top five richest people in the eric smith who goes to bilderberg and burning man yeah um it's and then he's the man who helped start one of the major super PACs that, of course, spread the first kind of term of Russian collusion.
Starting point is 00:59:07 So they're integrated in so many different ways. Eric Schmidt said that he supports Hillary Clinton. He backed her in so many different ways. But there's so many other things happening behind the scenes that aren't even public, that we don't even know about, that truly do highlight the bigger power plays at hand here behind the scenes and obviously right now the power establishment that's in charge is the corporate neoliberal uh fascistic establishment that is parading itself as a social justice warrior woke ideology when in reality they're they are technocrats and that's exactly what i would call them absolutely and total authoritarians because they also support black lives matter if
Starting point is 00:59:44 you ask them. We're all behind the Russia collusion. They probably all support vaccine mandates, and they're all worth $65 billion. They only support Black Lives Matter when it supports their divide and conquer agenda, when at the same time they pass initiatives that largely discriminate against them, just like these
Starting point is 00:59:59 larger vax mandates predominantly discriminate against black people. And now, not only their opportunity to go to places inside but now their opportunity to even find a job where in new york city predominantly the majority of people who haven't taken the vaccine are black now they can't get a job no so can't go to the library you can't go to the library you can't do anything you can't yeah they took away all their economic opportunities but these are the same people cheerleading we support black Lives Matter no matter what.
Starting point is 01:00:26 No, you don't. You support your agenda and your power graph. They used the power of the government to crush their opposition. Exactly. But we got something interesting here. Devin Nunes is retiring. So he's going to be joining the Trump media firm. And I can't say I'm surprised that the feds are going after Trump's media firm, but he wrote a letter. He basically said, Nunes said in a letter to his
Starting point is 01:00:45 constituents that he'll be leaving at the end of 2021 prior to the 2022 midterms. Recently, I was presented with an opportunity to fight for the most important issues I believe in. I'm writing to let you know I've decided to pursue this opportunity, and therefore, I will be leaving the House of Representatives at the end of 2021. Rest assured, I have not by any means given up our collective fight. I'll just be pursuing it through other means. So Nunes announces resignation. The Trump and Media Technology Group released a statement saying Nunes would be the company's chief executive officer. I would love to see – to have Devin on the show to discuss this, Mr. Nunes, congressman, and talk about what's going on with this because I certainly believe Devin Nunes is a fighter.
Starting point is 01:01:23 So I've been concerned about what's been happening with like the acquisition of locals and stuff. Seeing this, I do think there's another risk of big tech. Just because they say they're going to protect us and protect our rights and allow free speech doesn't mean that in five years time, they actually will. It'll be other people with other interests and other agenda in power and the ability to censor you. So I'm all about decentralizing this stuff and then hooking it in the machine what these people have been doing i've been building a centralized system just to give themselves power so it's it's one thing to be like i believe everyone should have access to communication and that's another thing to see two warring factions arguing over who which which one of them gets to have control over the means of communication
Starting point is 01:02:01 right yeah i think the interesting thing about Nunes retiring, I just wanted to confirm that he is from California. He is from California, which means the governor will renounce his replacement. Pelosi does not have a very big majority. He would not risk the larger right-of-center agenda if he thought anything was at risk. So I think Devin Nunes knows nothing's going to happen next year.
Starting point is 01:02:25 Like my being there or replacing me with a Democrat is going to mean absolutely nothing to the agenda. But what does that mean? Does that mean the Republicans are or aren't going to win? No, that means that the House will be in total stall next year. They're not going to get anything through the Senate. They'll just be on vacation. That's my hunch.
Starting point is 01:02:40 I don't think he would leave if he was like, like, we have these really big bills that are coming up. I got to be there because we only have a three-vote lead. Right, right, right. He's like, it doesn't make a difference. No, he's right. I mean, it's tribal right now. The Democrats have the House. And it's not going to be until, what, January 3rd, 2023 before, even if the red wave happens.
Starting point is 01:02:57 And think of how sad that is in terms of just civics, that we are already dismissing all of next year, nothing will happen in D.C. That's a good thing. I like that. It is. That sounds great to me. But what a colossal waste of space and time and money. All these people are going to be flying here and they're going to be having meetings. They're going to haul people like you up. You described the perfect definition of government. Right there. That was it. Say that
Starting point is 01:03:19 sentence again. They're going to be hauling people like you in and they're going to have these hearings but not it's just how how how embarrassing is it like it's all just a joke it's just a huge it always was it always has been and it always was and i and i think a a stagnant government that keeps fighting itself and doesn't accomplish anything and doesn't pass new rules and laws is the best government an inactive government is the best government people could ask for because it doesn't get involved in anyone's business. I disagree, Luke, at this point.
Starting point is 01:03:49 A government that begins repealing laws and adding sunset clauses to existing laws is the kind of government we need. If the Republicans had a backbone and actually did some of that, I would agree with you, but they don't. They usually comply and they just want to add new bureaucracies, new jurisdictions, and new regulations that gives them power and gives them authority. I wish there was a political system or a political party that represented repealing a lot of the bureaucracy, repealing a lot of the dumb regulations that hurt small businesses, that prevent people from competing with Amazon and Walmart and Costco and whoever it may be. That's the Department of Commerce.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Yeah. 17,000 people work there. Look at what a good job they're doing. Yeah. So great. Yeah. So I wish there was the slow kind of recalling of all this nonsense. I wish we just had one rule.
Starting point is 01:04:37 We talked about this on the show a number of times. Just make a sunset clause on all laws, on all rules, on all regulations. Yes, all of them. Just let them expire. Please. Because there's so much bull crap that the average American has to deal with every single day when it comes to a mafioso middleman government thug interfering in their livelihoods. It's impossible to make ends meet for a lot of people. I wish the founding fathers added an additional amendment that the constitution can be amended in these ways however
Starting point is 01:05:06 statutory laws passed by congress will all have a natural sunset period and the reason for that is and they could have they could have done like a natural sunset of 20 years or something to recognize rules change by generation and new generations coming in will need to assess the rules of the previous generation determine if they they're still applicable to what our society is like today. And I think then you have the Constitution, which is mostly immutable. It's very difficult to change but can be amended if everyone comes together and mostly agrees. And then when it comes to statutory law, these things got to get reviewed because right now, if they put up – I would say this. In about 10 years, I'm willing to bet gun control is going to be in the gutter.
Starting point is 01:05:47 2A advocates are winning. They're winning like crazy. And that means the younger generation, the leftists who are pro-gun and the right populists and the independents and libertarians are winning on this front. Absolutely, they would be like, oh, we're going to review this NFA thing? Throw it in the gutter. That being said, they can go in and then be like, hey, we're all going to vote to throw this NFA thing in the gutter. being said they can go in and then be like hey we're all going to vote to throw this nfa thing in the gutter so that's in my opinion a good thing but i think with sunset clauses it makes it happen a little bit faster where whereas you might need a certain
Starting point is 01:06:14 amount of votes to get past a filibuster or get it through a veto with the sunset if they don't vote to uphold it it just gone whereas right now if they say you know we're gonna pass the the repealing the nfa act and then biden's just like vetoed get out of here and then they're like we can't get the two-thirds majority to you know to get the to override the veto so you can't do it with the sunset they just be like ain't nobody voting for it so we got a simple majority it's out that'd be fantastic but speaking of guns guns, let's talk about some cultural stuff. I want to talk about Alec Baldwin. We got some interesting news in the Alec Baldwin front from Deadline.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Alec Baldwin today deleted his Twitter account and so did Hilaria Baldwin days after Shock ABC interview. And I will tell you my thoughts. I think he deleted his account because his lawyers were like you dumb mother effer.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Everything you said incriminated you in killing this woman. And I am, I wouldn't say I'm more convinced than ever that he intentionally committed murder. I would say that interview that Alec Baldwin did with George Stephanopoulos was incredibly incriminating. And it sounds to me like the probability that he did intentionally murder this woman went up a decent amount and i would put it at like i don't know if i were to think like what percentage of me thinks he intentionally killed this woman it's like 26 27 percent and then like 20 percent says it was an accident or whatever but this whole interview it says to me this guy he did it something it. Something's wrong there. It's beyond wrong. Yeah. I mean, have you been following the story?
Starting point is 01:07:46 I have. I have. No, absolutely. And I was surprised that he actually gave an interview because if you're under any investigation, the last thing you want to do is have more words that can and will be used against you. That's why you have the right to remain silent. So I don't understand why he did this interview. I also found it funny that he chose Stephanopoulos because Steffi probably thinks he is getting these big hits
Starting point is 01:08:10 and he's got to have some cool feature. But really it's because they know he's just an easy interview. If you are in trouble and you're on the left, go to Steffi Stephanopoulos and you will get a cakewalk. But even with the cakewalk, I mean, imagine if he went to a real journalist. Imagine if he sat down with someone who actually asked him hard questions. Oh, I would have rose to the sky. So he went to George Stephanopoulos for a cakewalk. And even in that cakewalk, he said a lot of stuff like that,
Starting point is 01:08:34 that he did or did not pull the trigger even. Well, a lot of people are saying that this is rude to the family that's still in mourning. Yeah, true. That he's making this kind of big media spectacle around this. And it's also, you know, looking from the outside, it's also kind of psychotic to try to proclaim yourself as a victim here, which he was, in my kind of understanding of it, was trying to make himself out to be making him the center of attention around this, when in reality, you know, this was a very emotional issue
Starting point is 01:09:07 that I don't think helps anyone in this situation. Well, let's talk about some of the facts and some of the things he said, and I'll just get straight to it. One of the things that really caught me was when he made this argument. Stephanopoulos asks Alec Baldwin. I'll give you the quick elevator pitches to what happened.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Alec Baldwin was on the set of the movie Rust. He pulled out a gun, pulled the hammer back, fired it, killed the cinematographer, and struck the director. There's a lot of other nuanced details we'll get into in a second, but Stephanopoulos said, why didn't you check the gun? And Baldwin said, you can't. When you're handed a weapon, if I were to open the chamber or take the the clip out i know he said clip he meant magazine he's like they would immediately take it away from me because it's been checked by someone else you know he probably thought that was a really good argument he probably was thinking about doing the interview talk to some people and they were like oh tell them you can't check the gun because
Starting point is 01:09:59 then they would take it away from you the idea being they saw, if the armorer was checking the weapon, taking it apart, putting it back together, checking the rounds, hands it to Alec Baldwin, and then he opens it up and does something to it, the armorer is now like,
Starting point is 01:10:13 yo, I just checked this. What did you do? Give that back to me. I'm checking it again. But that's a really dumb thing to say because I'll tell you this. Ah, so Alec Baldwin, you recognize that the armor or prop guy, as he calls it, hands you
Starting point is 01:10:28 a weapon. You can't do anything because that guy has to make sure it's checked, correct? Yes. Then why was it that when you were handed the weapon by the AD, who is not the prop person or the armorer, you did not find that suspect enough to call for the prop guy and say, please check the weapon. Someone had manipulated it. If your argument is you can't check it because they would take it from you to check, why didn't you call for that when it was handled by someone who wasn't the armorer? That,
Starting point is 01:10:55 in my opinion, is incriminating. Additionally, he claimed when he was on the street and the paparazzi were filming him, he was like, she was my friend. She was my friend. In this interview he was asked, what did you know about Helena Hutchins? Nothing. Nothing. Until she came on set. She was your friend, but you didn't know her until she took this job. He didn't know she was. So why was he having dinner with her? Why was Alec Baldwin
Starting point is 01:11:18 having dinner with someone who wasn't his friend he had just met? That could be that they're working on set and they said, let's go grab dinner and talk about the movie. But at the same time we know that there was labor concerns the crew was complaining about safety conditions and and pay and people were walking off then we find out baldwin's having a dinner with a woman he doesn't know and he describes her in the interview as intense not interested in small talk just getting down to business so I don't know you would have to believe that Alec Baldwin
Starting point is 01:11:48 was handed this gun popped open, so these are single action revolvers there's a little latch on the right side you pop it open and then you can see and you put the bullet in, the cylinder doesn't come out like you see in the video games where they flip it out the single action, so we'd have to open the latch one by one, load it
Starting point is 01:12:03 while spinning the cylinder and if he wanted to put a bullet in it, he'd have to put one in and then close it. Very easy to do with, in my opinion, I think it's a bit of a stretch to assume that Alec Baldwin with one hand was holding around, reached over because he had the gun on his side, and then popped it open, pushed the bullet in, pulled it out, and then shot her. But I also think it's still more absurd to assume that the gun had to be accidentally loaded with live rounds. To be given to a guy who's not supposed to handle it. To be handed to Alec Baldwin who's not supposed to use it in this set. To then – Alec Baldwin claimed that Helena Hutchins told him to point the gun at her and pull the hammer back.
Starting point is 01:12:43 I'm like, I'm sorry. If that's the official story and the alternative is Alec Baldwin put a bullet in a gun and shot a woman, I think the Alec Baldwin put a bullet and shot a woman is much more likely to be true. But I'm not saying it's definitive. I don't know. I'm just saying it's more likely. Is he saying that she said point the gun at me and shoot at me because she's a cinematographer? She's got a camera.
Starting point is 01:13:03 She wants a POV, direct-to-camera shot is what she's looking to shoot? Yes. Okay. He was saying – she kept saying, you know, draw the gun. He pushed from the side. Like Quentin Tarantino-esque type angle where you're literally looking right at the camera. Or at a slight angle. And so the camera is here and she's just to the right of it and the gun is going slightly off.
Starting point is 01:13:20 But I'm sorry. If his argument is she was telling me over and over again to draw the gun and point it at me. And then he says she told me to pull the hammer back. And then I let go and I it just fired. I didn't pull the trigger. That's not possible on a single action revolver unless he was holding the trigger depressed while pulling it back, which also seems like a strange thing to do.
Starting point is 01:13:41 So all of these weird I said this last month, I was like, all of these coincidences had to have occurred for Alec Baldwin to have accidentally shot this woman. Sorry, dude. He was holding a single action revolver. You pull the hammer back. It goes click, click. I think it may even go click, click, click. You can't just let it go. It doesn't go forward until you pull that trigger. So someone accidentally puts a bullet in it, gives it to the wrong guy. Alec Baldwin knows that's not supposed to be the guy who has it and he's supposed to get the armor to come check it because it was manipulated by somebody else and then helena hodgins is like yes draw the weapon and aim it at me now pull the hammer back oh no i've been shot directly through the chest hitting
Starting point is 01:14:16 my spine and killing her i'm sorry dude baldwin straight up killed that lady going through her and hitting another person uh behind her as well. Actor John Schneider, he was in the Dukes of Hazzard, came out and said that he doubts that this gun went off by itself. He also called the whole interview bull-ish. Family-friendly show, you know what I'm trying to say. But he said that it was designed to, quote, make us feel sorry for Alec Baldwin. And I think he made some very interesting points surrounding this matter. Is he the guy who did the YouTube video? I'm not sure. Which guy? The made some very interesting points surrounding this matter. Is he the guy who did the YouTube video?
Starting point is 01:14:47 I'm not sure. Which guy? The guy from which show? John Schneider. Yeah, yeah, yeah. John Schneider, he did a YouTube show. He was Bo Duke. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. And I think this is the guy who took the single action. He took it apart and he showed you exactly how it works.
Starting point is 01:15:00 And he said that there was a propaganda machine behind all of this. And as we know, Alec Baldwin has been working with PR emergency companies that have been implementing a lot of the kind of fake news, have been implementing a lot of the kind of noise around this matter, allegedly, according to a lot of sources surrounded in this case. So it wouldn't be surprising to me if a crisis manager came to Alec Baldwin and said, okay, we're going to sit you down. We're going to get rid of all this public pressure. We're going to make sure you get back into acting very soon. And Alec said, whatever it takes. And I think this was a part of the process
Starting point is 01:15:37 that he taught would help him. But in reality, a lot of other people are calling him out. You know what's really weird? Is that this woman was an investigative journalist. Yeah, that's weird, right? And a lot of other people are calling them out. You know what's really weird is that this woman was an investigative journalist. Yeah, that's weird, right? And a lot of people are – there's a theory – Was she investigating the Clintons? Well, look –
Starting point is 01:15:51 I'm joking. I'm being facetious. I know, I know. But there are a lot of people pushing something like that. And I don't see evidence for that. And I do think that's an attempt to push people away from the real story. You've got to be careful with these really crazy conspiracies about, you know, kids in basements at pizza parlors, because it is so absurd and easily disproven, but people believe the trash they read on the internet. What happens is you have this very serious story about Alec Baldwin, who killed a woman. We don't know why. She did work as, we have it here on our Wikipedia
Starting point is 01:16:19 page. She has a degree in international journalism and worked on documentary films as an investigative journalist in Eastern Europe. So all of a sudden, she now finds herself working as a cinematographer for the past few years. This woman was killed. Let's get to the bottom of it. But if people start pushing these crazy theories about the secret undercover investigation she was really pursuing, then all of a sudden you lose interest. CNN comes out and says it's a crackpot conspiracy. It was all an accident.
Starting point is 01:16:49 And like that actor guy said, there's a propaganda machine trying to make us feel sorry for Alec Baldwin when he killed this woman. Yeah, and I think you raise a great point that if you're Alec Baldwin's agent and his PR staff, the question is how do we get you back to acting as fast as possible? And you look at the history of some Hollywood unsavory actors. I mean, heck, Roman Polanski gets standing ovations at the Oscars. I mean, because his PR machine was so good. Now, granted,
Starting point is 01:17:12 he's extradited in France, right? And he can't come back. And he won't come back because he knows he'll get arrested. But Hollywood actors and actresses will still applaud Roman Polanski. And yes, he raped a 15-year-old girl, but he's a brilliant director. And I'm sure if you're Alec Baldwin's people, you're like, what's that compared to Roman Polanski or Harvey Weinstein or so many other people in Hollywood who have these histories.
Starting point is 01:17:35 Yeah, wasn't there a famous actress that made a speech about him saying, we need him back. We should get him back. It's unfair. What's happening to him? What was her name? I can't remember. Was it Barbara or was it Whoopi? I forgot exactly. Was it Meryl streeper was someone someone did a major a major major actress did give a like we need him yes we need him back was it the gap tooth one um what's her name she's from
Starting point is 01:17:57 the family um the the whole all the families uh share what the heck's her name? I'll think of it. I just think Alec Baldwin, if – look, I don't see how an accident – it's like Final Destination. You know that movie where – the series of movies where the people die in really weird ways? Right. Like a truck is driving down the street and then some guy spills his coffee, which like – so he throws it out the window and then it bounces and then it hits a sign which causes the sign to spin around and then point in the wrong direction and then a truck turns left but then slips on ice and flips over and then the logs fly off the truck flop bounce through the air hit a car which makes the car fly off a bridge and then hit a guy like that's what it sounds like to me when when they explain the scenario that happened according to alec bald. Or there's the really simple, like more real life, angry crew members.
Starting point is 01:18:48 Alec Baldwin was frustrated, tired, angry, has a temper. And he said, screw this. Bang. Was he not supposed to have a gun in that scene? I heard that. The official story from the script supervisor and the electrician was that he was supposed to have a gun, but he wasn't supposed to draw it or aim it. And it wasn't supposed to be handed to him by this assistant director.
Starting point is 01:19:08 So if he wasn't supposed to draw it or aim it, why would Helena Hutchins tell him to draw it and point it at her? Well, she's dead, and she can't tell us exactly why that was happening. The weird thing is, and I'm sure everyone's afraid to go public because this is an ongoing investigation,
Starting point is 01:19:24 with the exception of, I've worked on a lot of Hollywood scenes. It was one of my earlier little things a long, long time ago. There are no scenes that there are just three or four people. Porn shoots have staffs of 15 people, right? A lot of people saw this happen. The fact that none of them have come out publicly and said what happened, they're probably all afraid. They probably all have.
Starting point is 01:19:44 This is definitely recorded on film. There's a lot of people who witnessed this. They're waiting for the investigation to go forward. I'll tell you this. And I will say one last thing, if you don't mind. I've worked on movies with Oscar-winning actors and Oscar-winning cinematographers. Oscar-winning actors don't have dinner with cinematographers.
Starting point is 01:20:04 They don't work with the staff. Unless something is wrong. An A-lister meeting with a new cinematographer he just met. It must have to do with the crew getting disgruntled. Something is wrong. Or they were like, Alec, you've got to take her out to dinner because you've got to win her over or she's the only one putting up with your BS. And he was like, fine, I'll do it. But I've
Starting point is 01:20:28 been on movie sets where they don't. The staff were pissed off because of the budgeting. They said that he was undercutting everyone and not properly funding the production of this movie. And they were saying this is absolutely absurd. So that could have
Starting point is 01:20:42 been the arguments that happened there. And again, we don't know. We're not – we can only speculate from here. You know, the whole where Alec was saying if I had taken the gun apart to check, they would have taken it away from me thing is such a pansy-like – that's what he would have done to someone as the producer. If he saw someone checking, inspecting their weapon, he would have taken it out of their hands and fired the guy because he's lying. Because he doesn't have – he's impatient. He doesn't have patience. I see what you're saying, but he's just lying. That's also possible.
Starting point is 01:21:10 Like George Clooney was like, I always check because you get in trouble. If Alec Baldwin is like, I didn't check because they told me I wasn't supposed to, it's like, well, you realize that's still involuntary manslaughter, right? So that's a BS argument. And it sounded clever. He probably thought in his mind this one makes a lot of sense and then all it does is incriminate him oh so you're saying you knew the guy who was manipulating it wasn't supposed to hand it to you and you fired it
Starting point is 01:21:32 anyway you knew that if someone manipulates the gun other than the prop guy it must be handed back to the prop guy and you still took it aimed it at her pulled the hammer back and fired it and but in his mind the story was so good just like our friend and fired it. But in his mind, the story was so good, just like our friend Jussie Smollett in his mind. His story was so good. And he also did media. Again, all these people with these terrible stories who were like, I should go do a live interview and incriminate
Starting point is 01:21:56 myself. Don't! Don't give any interviews. Jussie Smollett testified today. No, no, no. Give interviews, including Prince Andrew. More interviews. We need everyone. Jussie Smollett testifies today. I couldn't believe it. They're saying this guy may be convicted as soon as tomorrow. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 01:22:13 Jussie Smollett, by the time you guys... So we're live right now. We record this. But tomorrow morning, this one's going to go up. And it may be, but by the time you find this video, Smollett has already been found guilty by a jury of his peers because it has been a disaster in this case. Experts were saying the only defense he has is for him to testify. And you've got to hear this if you've not been following this. Grab the popcorn.
Starting point is 01:22:40 You are going to laugh. So first, this guy claims, their defense, that the Osindairo brothers that he hired, according to the prosecutors, to stage this hoax are sophisticated criminals who framed him. They planned the whole thing, even though he paid them for workout training and then told the cops they were white. They planned the whole thing to frame him. Why? Because they're homophobic and they hate him.
Starting point is 01:23:03 Then you get the, what happens is during testimony, the defense tries cross-examining one of the Osindaro brothers. And the judge said that it was like collateral or something in the move on. And so, just get mistrial over that. The judge says that's BS. That never happened. And you're not getting a mistrial. And then the defense started crying and left the courtroom with her mother. I am not making that up.
Starting point is 01:23:48 The attorney left? With her mother. What is happening? I'm going to fact check that. How is this not on camera? This is a violation of our human rights that this is not. I know. This is better than Empire.
Starting point is 01:24:04 It's better than Empire. The whole cast of Empire is watching this like, this show is fantastic. I would have to say that Jesse Smollett is trying to use the Kevin Spacey defense.
Starting point is 01:24:14 If you remember, Kevin Spacey was accused of doing some absolutely horrendous, horrible things to underage children, particularly boys. And his main defense was, hey, I'm gay.
Starting point is 01:24:24 And because of that, the mainstream corporate press literally ran with headlines, brave actor Kevin Spacey comes out as gay. And that somehow obfuscated the larger accusations, very serious accusations of him doing horrible things to small children. And now Jesse Smollett's main argument here is that he's gay and he does gay stuff. That's his main defense exclusively here. And when that's your defense defense i don't think you have a winning case here no it's a lifestyle not a defense and all right it's crazy i so i pulled this up we got breitbart and we got the new york post
Starting point is 01:24:55 on thursday smollett's attorney tomorrow walker requested a mistrial over her claims cook county judge james lynn uh physically lunged at her cbs news reports reports say the encounter happened during a sidebar conversation with attorneys from both sides the judge denied the accusations and also denied the motion for mistrial walker reportedly appeared to be close to tears while debating with the judge and left the courtroom with her mother while the rest of smollett's team continued to ask for a measure. Okay, close to tears. Sorry. I said she cried. She was close to tears as she left with her mother. That is Jussie Smollett's defense team. If your defense lawyer cries out for mommy in the courtroom, that's a bad sign.
Starting point is 01:25:35 That's bad. You know what happened was she went up and was saying something to the judge and getting his face. He leaned at her and went, I the law here and got real serious and then she considered that like an attack but he's like establishing order i'm probably that's that's probably exactly what happened you know yeah she brought her mom with her is she like fresh out of law school like it's her first trial and jesse's like i'm gonna i'm gonna give her a chance you know on my life to like leave
Starting point is 01:26:05 the defense yeah the new york post reports the same thing she was near tears and she left the gap she left the courtroom with her mother who was in the gallery as the rest of smut's team continued to ask for a mistrial did jesse did juicy smollett hire l wood from legally legally blonde no l wood from legally blonde i'm like maybe he's hoping she'll have her breakthrough moment in the courtroom you know and she she'll realize that he's innocent. I mean, this is one comment that I'm seeing right now. And it's that Jesse Smollett, the first American to scam Nigerians. And that's what we're finding out through this court proceeding.
Starting point is 01:26:42 And I think they have a point. Good Lord. But he actually testified. And let's read this from CNN. They say, former Empire star Jesse Smollett took the stand in the – star. I'm sorry. They said actor. I made that up. They said, former Empire actor Jesse Smollett took the stand in the ongoing criminal trial Monday in a high-stakes attempt to rebut charges that he staged a fake hate crime. They say under oath Monday, Smollett offered testimony over more than two hours that suggested the brothers whom he knew from the
Starting point is 01:27:09 Empire set may have had other motivations. He said Bola Osindairo, who he called Bon, helped get him drugs, including cocaine. He also said they had a sexual relationship between them at a particular Chicago bathhouse. One night while the two were out and Smollett testified, they got a private room and did drugs and, like, made out. On a separate occasion, Smollett told jurors he and Bola snuck away from his brother after the three were at a female
Starting point is 01:27:34 strip club together. Smollett testified again they got a private room and made out a little bit and family-friendly show, you know, had fun together. Let's just... I don't know how this is relevant. You don't need to go that deep. Imagine you're the jury and you're like... They Jeffrey Toobin'd together. What? just, I don't, I don't, I don't know how this is relevant. You don't need to go that deep. Imagine you're the jury and you're like,
Starting point is 01:27:46 They Jeffrey Toobin'd together. What, what, what, if you're the jury, if you're the jury and he's just saying all this stuff, you're like,
Starting point is 01:27:52 yo, I don't know what this has to do with anything. So they say, he kind of creeped me out. Every time we were around him, he didn't speak to me. Every time we needed to leave,
Starting point is 01:28:02 he made it seem like we needed to sneak off. After a hate letter was sent to him, Smollett said Bola Osondaro approached him about becoming his personal security guard, something the actor told the jury Osondaro had repeatedly asked him. Following the letter, Bola Osondaro began asking him more about the need for security, Smollett said. The actor described being annoyed at the idea of always having a security detail around him. Around lunchtime, I would smoke my blunt and drive around the neighborhood of the studios.
Starting point is 01:28:26 I don't want to be in someone's car. Smollett told the jury that while driving around with Bola, there was never any discussion of planning a staged hate attack. Did you talk to him about some hoax? No, Smollett said. So it sounds like Jussie Smollett's argument is this guy staged the attack because he was trying to convince him to hire him as a security guard.
Starting point is 01:28:43 And that, I mean, that's a story. i don't see any evidence to claim that's true because smollett paid him for personal training and the idea that these guys were white when that's what smollett said which is like he lied you know yeah so so if they did this to convince you that you needed security you called the cops but you didn't immediately point to them that these are the guys who did it you didn't and you were still wearing the noose
Starting point is 01:29:07 and you still had your soda and your Subway sandwich they did a dry run of this they have the Nigerian brothers go into a store and literally pick up black masks right
Starting point is 01:29:17 the rope that they used and he wrote a check up to them yeah well on tomorrow's show if he is found guilty and you have this breaking news for the show,
Starting point is 01:29:28 I tweeted a couple of days ago that I think his punishment should be very simple. He should have to go to the next MAGA rally, and he should have to look at the president, Trump, and he should have to apologize. Oh, snap. Don't put him in jail. It's a waste of taxpayer dollars for him to go to jail. He should have to repay all of the legal work and the police work that was done investigating it. Well, the Chicago PD says that they're going to potentially
Starting point is 01:29:48 charge him hundreds of thousands of dollars for this larger investigation. It's a waste of... He's going to get killed in jail, probably. I don't think he's going to get... He shouldn't go to jail. But, for those of us people who are in Camp MAGA, who... They made a huge deal of this in 19, and he did the whole press circuit, and they were like, this is
Starting point is 01:30:03 indicative of the types of people who vote for donald trump for all of us who who proudly voted for donald trump who were sick and tired of being besmirched by people like juicy smollett he owes us an apology and we should get a sincere one and a sincere one for me is being in front of tens of thousands of us don't write us a little letter or do a YouTube video. You have to stand there and face us and listen to us either heckle you or, knowing Trump people, they'll probably give him a little applause and say, get him off the stage. I just feel like I'm kind of done trying to convince people who are in the cult, the people who believed this story, the people who believe the Covington lies, the people who believe Russiagate, Ukrainegate, all that garbage, who fell for the lie after lie after
Starting point is 01:30:44 lie. And each and every one of those stories has been definitively debunked. The media lied. What's the point of trying to convince people who want to be lied to that they've been lied to? I mean Justice Millett apparently has supporters outside the courtroom like cheering for him. Whatever. Look, serial killers get it too, man. Serial killers get letters from ladies who are like, I love you.
Starting point is 01:31:04 So whatever, man. what's the point i think a regular person hears the story and they immediately just are like yeah okay that's bs and i'm like there we go what more do we need to be to be saying about this i'm glad though because i do think justice justice malette is contributing to the people waking up to what's going on yeah because well you had big bang theory with the you know they did the group photo and everyone coming out and being like, I can't believe this happened and blaming Trump supporters. And it was just very obviously not true.
Starting point is 01:31:31 Yeah. Yeah, and it's a frustrating thing because it also does an awful lot of damage to people who are attacked. I don't believe in hate crimes. I don't believe in hate speech. But we use that term. But it does do a lot of damage to people who are victims of crime.
Starting point is 01:31:48 You know, and also how many police resources were diverted, right? It's the same thing of like the Bubba Watson incident. How many FBI agents does it take to go investigate a NASCAR, right? If these resources are so limited and so expensive, how many people – Chicago this year just hit its –, and it's your home city, I like to talk about New York as well. Chicago just hit its 800th homicide this year.
Starting point is 01:32:11 How many detectives could have been diverted to the streets to whatever, but we're doing the Jesse Smollett investigation, right? So those are the people who deserve the true apology.
Starting point is 01:32:21 You stole resources from a very, very tortured city. It's true, it's true it's true but i also gotta say like chicago's got very serious problems with police corruption and they've always had it's been a mob town as long as i've known it and if you look at history it's always been a mob town and i'm kind of like torn between yeah maybe there could become some cops stopping you know some of these gun crimes and homicides and stuff but then i remember when chicago operated black sites where they arrested people without charge
Starting point is 01:32:46 and held them there for 10 days without notifying anybody or when that one guy was electrocuting people to force confessions. So at that point, I'm kind of like, I don't know, whatever. I'm not going to give them anything. We got tracked down by the Chicago PD and had a, you know, I had a gun pointed at me because of just journalism. Yeah, we got surrounded by a bunch of cars. They took the cop cars, unmarked, unmarked, took us out, searched us.
Starting point is 01:33:08 It was all completely unwarranted. They apparently raided the apartment we were staying at. The whole crazy story went down. They tried planting drugs on us, just real dirty stuff. Chicago is a dirty city. I can't remember the guy's name. Do you guys remember the name of the guy in Chicago who was cattle prodding people into forcing them to confessions? No, I don't remember his name.
Starting point is 01:33:26 Yeah, I'm not a fan of the CPD, man. Whatever happened to that black site that the Chicago Police Department was running? Do you know much about it? It was Hommond Square. Is that what it was called? Yeah. Hommond Square. Hommond Square.
Starting point is 01:33:36 Yeah, you looked it up? Yeah. It was an unmarked location where they would bring people to effectively torture. City at war, man. Is that still operate? I don't know. I haven't been to Chicago. I moved out of Chicago 13 years ago.
Starting point is 01:33:51 Yeah, 13 years ago. And I got rid of this. That story broke in 2015. Yeah. That's nuts. It's crazy, right? So, look, man. I like the idea of, you know, the good local cop who's like, look, I just want to make sure people aren't getting hurt, and I've met some of these guys.
Starting point is 01:34:06 But you look at some of these big cities like New York, Chicago, and L.A., and they are crooked. Yeah. Super crooked. New York is super crooked. Chicago is super crooked. The small towns, they tend to be okay, but you still get a lot of cops who are willing to just do what they're told. I kind of agree with you, Daniel, about I don't think putting him in jail solves anything at this point, but a public apology might actually
Starting point is 01:34:28 do more good for society. For Jesse, I don't know. Yeah, at least for me. I want my apology. I gotta read this from the Super Chats. We're gonna go to Super Chats, but real quick first, I guess read this one that just came in. Kenny D says, you know how I know Tim isn't really from Chicago?
Starting point is 01:34:44 Because he says people should get hot dogs at Portillo's. That's like saying go get pizza at Gino's. No. We went to Portillo's on Harlem and Archer. We love Portillo's. There was always a massive line. People in Chicago love their Portillo's. They got ribs. They got Italian beef. You get the beef dipped. You get
Starting point is 01:34:59 it with sweet peppers or you get the giardiniera if you want it. But okay, to be fair, we would also go to Maxwell Street because we had one and it's just off of cicero at like 65th so we'd go there pretty often often and that's awesome too but hey man i i actually agree and i was saying this earlier because we did order from portillo's i was like to be fair ordering from portillo's is like telling people to go get a hot dog and tell them to go to giordano's like if you want to get real chicago pizza you got to find a good local spot you want to get real Chicago pizza, you got to find a good local spot. You want to get a good hot dog,
Starting point is 01:35:26 you got to find a good hole in the wall. But I took offense at that. I like Portillo's. If you're in Chicago, you can check that out. And get the gravy. You ever have gravy bread? No.
Starting point is 01:35:37 They literally take a French roll and they dunk it in gravy until it's soggy bread and they put it in a thing and that's it. That's what you eat. That's it. That's it. That's it.
Starting point is 01:35:44 It's like 50 cents or a dollar or whatever. Probably not healthy at all. No. It's probably fantastic. My ears perked up. But we've had it here because you can order them. The Italian beef is so good. You get the beef. You put it in. I like sweet peppers. You put sweet peppers on top and then you take the
Starting point is 01:36:00 whole sandwich and just dunk it in the whole beef thing with gravy and eat it and the bread's all soggy. That's what you're supposed to do. That's right. That's right. You know what I missed too? You can't get it anywhere, is giardiniera pizza.
Starting point is 01:36:17 So giardiniera mix, it's like, what is it, cauliflower, jalapenos, carrots. Vinegar and oregano. Have you ever had it before? Yeah, it's very common in Italian food. I've never had it on pizza. That's kind of an abomination. No, man. It's so good. It's so good.
Starting point is 01:36:27 You go to Chicago. You order a local Chicago place. They just put Giardiniera all over it, and it is my favorite. But you know what? When I went to New York for the first time, and I was ordering a hero. That's what they call it. They call it a hero. It was crazy.
Starting point is 01:36:40 No, a hero. With an H? H-E-R-O. It's a sandwich. Not a gyros. A hero. And so I was like, I'm looking at the board. I'm like, what's a hero?
Starting point is 01:36:47 And the guy's like, sandwich. And he points to the roll. And I was like, oh, like a hoagie or a sub? What do you call it, a hoagie? A sub. A sub. Or something. And then I was like, I'll get one of those.
Starting point is 01:36:55 And I'll get the roast beef with cheddar and some giardiniera. And the guy goes, and with what? What? And I was like, do you have giardiniera? And he goes, what? And I was like, giardiniera. And he goes, I don't know what you're talking about. And I was like uh do you have giardiniera and he goes what and i was like giardiniera and he goes i don't know what you're talking about and i was like whoa dude when you make the giardiniera pizza do you bake the giardiniera you just put it on top of the pizza
Starting point is 01:37:14 and then you bake it yeah oh yeah okay yeah that baked cauliflower that would be really good and whole cloves of garlic oh yeah man people think chic Chicago pizza is deep dish. That's not true. That's tourist pizza. Real Chicago pizza has like a sturdy, thin crust with like a thick layer of cheese on it. The deep dish is not pizza. It's tomato casserole. It's very lovely, but it's not pizza. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I agree. It's like doing a shot to pizza.
Starting point is 01:37:37 Right. But we're going to start a New York-Chicago rivalry here. New York pizza is really thin. It's floppy, right? You fold it with three fingers and it's kind of floppy. But if it flops in the end, no good. It should hold up straight. It should hold up straight. But a real Chicago pizza is actually, it's a
Starting point is 01:37:53 firm crust. It doesn't rise up like in New York where you get that crust. It's thin all the way around and they cut it into squares. That's like most... Squares. Squares. Most Chicago local pizza places do pizza like that, or at least they used to. Now we're starting to see New York-style takeover. Slices.
Starting point is 01:38:11 Yeah, slices and the big crust in the back. Anyway, let's read Super Chat. Stop debating pizza and stuff in Chicago. I'm kind of hungry now, actually. I'm not going to lie. We actually did a big order of Portillo's, and we had a hot dog. Everyone had hot dogs. We had hot dogs earlier today, too.
Starting point is 01:38:24 You boil them. So good. Luke had the Chicago-style too. You boil them. So good. Luke had the Chicago style. It's got tomatoes. It's got a pickle. It's got sport peppers. It's got celery salt. It's got relish, onion, mustard.
Starting point is 01:38:33 It was like a sandwich. That's a lot of stuff on one hot dog. That's the Chicago hot dog, man. Even without the bread still. All right. We got to read Super Chats. All right. So we got a lot of people pointing out Patriot Front.
Starting point is 01:38:44 Padre Mortales says, Y'all should talk and make fun lot of people pointing out Patriot Front. Padre Mortales says, y'all should talk and make fun of the glowy group, Patriot Front, at least for a little bit. The march on Washington was hilariously glowy. That means it was a bunch of feds. That was funny. I mean, it just seems so ridiculously fake. But is the implication that a large group of hundreds
Starting point is 01:39:00 of federal agents all got together and wore uniforms? They were all between 5'10 1⁄2 and 6'2. They all had 34 waist. I've never seen a more fit, tall. It was beautiful. Hey, if that's the future that they want in America, I support it because they all looked great. They were all healthy and trim. But they're creepy weirdos.
Starting point is 01:39:24 No, they're just feds. It's funny when you look at the actual right-wing rallies, it's a bunch of fat dudes wearing armor. Yes, exactly. Like the funniest thing is you see photos of guys in like... Trying to hide under our vests that were a little poorly... Yeah, wearing tactical gear with guns and they're morbidly obese. And I'm like, look, no offense, dude,
Starting point is 01:39:41 but you're not going to be able to run to actually deal with any kind of conflict. You're not fit for this. The things that the military goes through to be ready when they do PT and stuff. But hey, man, whatever. So a lot of people are bringing it up. And the knee pads was very bizarre. I don't know what I – well, it's a family-friendly show, but there was a lot of knee pads. A lot of knee pads.
Starting point is 01:40:04 They were all wearing them. Were you all catchers at the last softball game? Is that what they call it now? Yeah, softball. All right. Willie Bryce says, Tim and crew, my employer announced today that those vaccinated will get an extra $80 a week. I can't help but feel disrespected and discriminated against. You see, they're not going to punish you.
Starting point is 01:40:23 They're going to promote everybody else. That's how they'll do it. They'll motivate you. And then if you want to get that sweet 80 bucks, you got to do as you're told. Do it. See, that's the game. If you're a business, you can just be like,
Starting point is 01:40:34 oh, okay, we're not punishing you. We're just giving everybody who gets it a bonus, a raise. Is it? I think it's coercive. I don't know. I don't know. There's challenges to what private businesses are allowed to do and who they want to work with.
Starting point is 01:40:47 But I think scale is a big issue. If Walmart tries to do it, I'm like, nah, you're too big. But if you're a small business, an old dude, and you've got like three employees, I'm like maybe then we just say let the old man do his thing. You know what I mean? It's tough. It's tough. All right. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:41:03 The Scott 16 says, follow the science they say okay the companies that make these vaccines recommend against kids getting them is that is that true are they doing that i i don't know if that's the case is it what do you how do you mean like pfizer has said kids shouldn't get it i did not hear that yeah i don't yeah i'm pretty sure they're pushing it yeah i'm pretty sure the pfizer like the ceos of all these companies are like, everybody should get it. And Moderna's CEO is like, you should get two more. They're selling you a product. I don't think they're trying to stop people from taking it.
Starting point is 01:41:32 But it's ultimately going to come down to a doctor, and that's the problem. Mandating kids get this? I'm like, sure. What does the pediatrician say? Like, well, that doesn't matter. The government decrees. Okay, well, you got to get out of New York City. And what's the risk and what's the reward that people have to individually think about for themselves yep all right kevin divine
Starting point is 01:41:49 says my gf is slowly dying of heart problems due to the ca covid measures she pays 500 a month for insurance and has only been and has only been seen by a doc once still no referrals it's getting scary i posted a short bit of my youtube about it uh can you leave can you get out of california before it's too late i don't know that's crazy you know that's like so she has health insurance but she still can't see a doctor that's what they're alleging yeah i guess harambe's irish says you can tell it's mostly liberals and libertarians in here all scared of the government like they are god lol i I don't think that's the case. I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:42:26 Liberals? Libertarian, me? Yeah, yeah. Like us in here, we're scared of the government? We're mad at government overreach, but I actually think... I respect the power of the government, that's for sure. I think there's certain good things from government, certain bad things, but I think it's mostly been bad for a while. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:43 I think the founding fathers had a lot of good ideas. Oh, here we go. Here's something interesting. Monkey Boy King says, is Tim going to take Dan Bongino up on his offer to let him explain what's going on with Rumble on Tim's show? Dan Bongino is welcome to come on my show anytime he wants. Are you kidding? Yes. Yeah, Dan did an announcement about the Rumble sale,
Starting point is 01:43:00 but it was like, there was no details. Like he was saying, this is big, this is great you know we worked on this awesome and my attitude was very much just like okay well you know i don't see anything here other than we're becoming exactly what the problem was in the first place but again competition is always good so like i said net positive a competing powerful force like an alternative place it's going to force youtube to be like okay okay we're not going to censor everybody otherwise we're going to lose them to competition competition's a good thing
Starting point is 01:43:27 but yeah i'd love to have dan bongino to talk about it that'd be great um where is he based out of i want to say texas no florida florida florida yeah i mean he does his own show i don't know if he'll be able to travel up here because i'm pretty sure he does what monday through friday as well yeah he does you know but dan you know we're fans he's always he's always welcome to come on adam krasinski probably pronouncing your name wrong says we are on the edge of war with russia there have been several cyber attacks by russian actors the u.s lost in afghanistan russia is invading ukraine diplomats are being sent home talk about it tim yes we actually did have that lineup well maybe we'll do a members only thing about that because we didn't get to it but there's a lot of news today and i think i'm going to do a bigger thing on this tomorrow i i had it in in the mix but then new york announced their
Starting point is 01:44:14 vax mandate and i'm just like you know it's it's here at home versus foreign policy stuff so i'm like we got to talk about what's going on with new york but uh definitely we will get to that that's crazy 175 000 troops i think are being reported, Russian troops in the Ukrainian border. Well, it's a buildup on both sides. So NATO and the United States are also pushing their soldiers there. Russia has declared a red line. The United States has kind of poked at it a little bit, especially in the sea there. So it's back and forth kind of saber rattling that's becoming louder and louder and more dangerous for everyone involved.
Starting point is 01:44:52 All right. kind of saber rattling that's becoming louder and louder and more dangerous for everyone involved all right ponton says guys we are all born into we were all born into this it's been going on the entire time it just surfaces as it progresses this is generational subversion realized we are in crisis phase heading into normalization we stop it now or they win fourth turning man i think uh that person has a point. Yeah. Wolf Freak says, Hey, Tim, you might be interested to know I'm driving across country and just hit a gas station that required us to have a vax card.
Starting point is 01:45:13 They denied me and my girlfriend's service because we don't have one. Holy cow. At a gas station? Where was this? I don't know. Holy cow. You can't get gas.
Starting point is 01:45:23 You can't pump your own gas? That's a policy in Estonia. New Jersey and Oregon, I know get gas. You can't pump your own gas? That's a policy in Estonia. New Jersey and Oregon, I know, ban. You can't pump your own gas. Yeah. So if they do it, you know. Holy cow. Jay Seath says, Tim, will you get Dave Rubin or Dan Bongino on to discuss the acquisition and going public?
Starting point is 01:45:38 Would love to see some hard questions. They are both welcome to come on anytime. The problem is they do their own shows. Right. So it's really difficult to be like, hey, cancel your show. Fly over here and do my show. Because it's just like, you know, it's difficult. And there have been people like, you know,
Starting point is 01:45:52 I think Elijah and Sydney actually postponed their show to come on here. Did they do that before? I don't recall. I think they may have. And I have tremendous respect for them for being willing to do that. No, no. The last time they were on was like a week before they started. No, I don't know about that.
Starting point is 01:46:06 Let them prove their loyalty to us. Come on the show. I'm pretty sure Elijah mentioned like we normally do the show here, but I want to come out to come on Tim's show. Okay, maybe it's not true. I don't know. Either way, Elijah and Sydney are really, really awesome. And that was my understanding. And I was like really like, wow, you guys, that means so much to me.
Starting point is 01:46:23 Thank you so much. Because they do their show at the same time and and you know we're big fans there's 7 to 8 30 those guys are awesome yeah big fans they call rittenhouse on earlier today i know it was really awesome yeah good show guys and you you guys should come back silas craft says we in germany had vax vaccinate equals freedom written on the dusseldorf or television tower we are preparing for leaving germany because of the coming vaccine mandate. My dad already lost his job because of the test mandate and his unwillingness to comply.
Starting point is 01:46:51 Yeah, man. It's getting dark, huh? The Raptors Talon says, I tried to start an honest conversation with some people on a Discord server. While it started off nice to say that it didn't end well is an understatement. People don't want an honest conversation. They want to win. And if that means the end of the world, so be it. It's true for some people on
Starting point is 01:47:08 the right, but it's mostly true for many on the left. It's the rule on the establishment left and the left in general, and it's the exception on the right for the most part. And that's likely because the right right now has a sort of tacit alliance with independents and moderates. And the more moderate individuals, be it right-leaning conservative types and independent types, really want to understand and solve the problems. But you absolutely do have the right, zealous Trump must win no matter what
Starting point is 01:47:34 and screw you and what you have to say. However, they're a small group without institutional authority. So they're allowed to have their opinion, same as the left. The problem is when the establishment left are unwilling to have a conversation and hold the reins of power, we got a big problem. If you were in a conversation via text in that Discord chat, don't put too much weight on that.
Starting point is 01:47:53 It's hard to get any good communication done via text. But if it was with words, try listening more. If you can understand your opponent, they tend to like you a lot more. And ask more questions rather than making declarative statements. And if they tend to like you a lot more. And ask more questions rather than making declarative statements. Yes. And if they disagree with you, call them racist.
Starting point is 01:48:09 Yes. Excellent strategy, everyone. There you go. Matthew Conley says, for your pop culture show, if you need some retro gaming hardware, I'm a collector that has 2.4K games across over 20 consoles,
Starting point is 01:48:20 just moved into Martinsburg. Wow. What would be the best way to reach out to allow your team to use my library? Well, the pop culture show is going to be focusing on new shows, new games, TV shows, movies, and kind of stuff. So there's a whole bunch of new Netflix shows to talk about and review. I don't know if we would do retro gaming stuff. So I don't really know.
Starting point is 01:48:38 A little haunted house. Atari 2600. Shout out to Berserk. We have a Retron downstairs. What's that? It's like a remade Nintendo, and it plays Nintendo games. Oh. Yeah. to Berserk. We have a Retron downstairs. What's that? It's like a remade Nintendo, and it plays Nintendo games. Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:48 It's pretty cool. I think it plays SNES, too. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. But you can just buy a box that has all of the Nintendo games and SNES on it and just plug it in your TV. We have a Sega. It's a little box.
Starting point is 01:48:59 You plug it in. It's got like 100 Sega Genesis games. And I'm playing it now, and trying to play it on an HDTV is just not a thing. Oh, wow. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I think it's 16-bit.
Starting point is 01:49:11 I had a 2600 as a kid. That's why I'm thinking of the games now. River Run. It's hard to play. It's weird looking. Oh, yeah. Pitfall, man. Pitfall 2 was underrated.
Starting point is 01:49:21 Oh, great. All right. Let's see. Spartan Bacon says, Tim tim with a single action revolver he could not have been able to put a bullet in and then fire without spinning the cylinder all the way around i yeah i'm but i still i i still think it's uh it makes more sense than this wild scenario of crazy coincidences that culminate with helena hutchins being like point the gun at me and pull the hammer back and i'm going you you got it. Bang. Oh no.
Starting point is 01:49:46 Like, I don't want to believe that Alec Baldwin put a bullet in the gun. I don't want to believe it. I think the angry crew member was like, I'm going to get back at that production company. Put a bullet in before they walked off set. But then, like they said, you have to rotate the cylinder around or pull the trigger. You have to fan
Starting point is 01:50:02 the hammer, pull the trigger, fan the hammer, or rotate the cylinder to get the bullet to go all the way around someone loaded it and rotated it and then put it on the table or alec baldwin did because alec baldwin said if i manipulated it they would have taken it away from me so why didn't he then say if that was the protocol hey who's this guy who's manipulating this gun and bringing it to me where's where's the prop guy who's supposed to be handling it before i'm given it he had he straight up said that so then the only like simple explanation is that he put the bullet in it wound it you know and got it ready and then he like that's premeditated that's i know dude that's insane it's hard to believe but bro
Starting point is 01:50:39 his whole career way i don't i don't are you telling me the alternative is more believable i think so the alternative that an angryvable? I think so. What? The alternative that an angry crew member put a bullet in the gun, got it set up, and then threw it. And then Helena Hutchins was like, I know you're not supposed to use the gun right now, but why don't you point it at me and stand the hammer? Might have been a lot. Because like you said, someone said earlier, there's more crew members are going to be there watching that moment. So I want to see if people come out and acknowledge that that did happen. But the one crew member who was there watching it was the guy in charge of weapons. So how does that?
Starting point is 01:51:09 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That was Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, I think. Yeah. The armor did not give Baldwin the gun. But I'm sure the armor was there on set. So at what point is the armor like, how did you get the gun? I don't know if she was there. My job is to give it to you.
Starting point is 01:51:22 If it's not in my possession and it's with the production assistant, then I already screwed up because it shouldn't leave my possession. The official story is that someone accidentally, the armor must have accidentally put a bullet in it and then left it unattended. And the AD who wasn't supposed to have it, took it, brought it to Alec Baldwin, who knew if it was not the prop guy, it had to be given back to them. He straight up said this. And then Helena Hutchins, who was shot and killed, told Alec Baldwin, you're not supposed to have the gun out in this scene, but I want to film you pulling it out anyway. Also, pull the hammer back right now and point it at me. That's just, I'm sorry, dude.
Starting point is 01:51:59 I don't want to believe Alec Baldwin did this. It seems crazy to think Alec Baldwin, the guy from 30 Rock, took a gun, put a bullet in it, and then went bang. But it's crazier to assume all of that ridiculous stuff happened. I don't think it's crazy to assume that an angry crew member that was about to walk off set loaded one of the guns before they left. And then Alec Baldwin was told by Helena Hutchins, point the gun at me, hold the hammer back, and then shoot me. In a scene where the gun's not needed, that's very weird. That's why I can understand.
Starting point is 01:52:27 Look, but if you want to claim an angry crew member sabotaged Alec Baldwin, that's when you start... Or someone, yeah. You're making more assumptions. Right. And so the least amount of assumptions
Starting point is 01:52:35 we can make is that Alec Baldwin pulled a gun and shot a woman. That's just out of story. That's for sure. I mean, that's undisputed at this point. But then how did the bullet get in there? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:52:42 He had a gun. It did not come from the armorer. Let's just put had a gun. It did not come from the armorer. Let's just put it this way. It didn't come from the armorer. The gun did not come from the on-set armorer. Right there, it should have been
Starting point is 01:52:50 red flags galore. That's all that matters. Red flag. Alec Baldwin was holding a gun that did not come from the armorer to be used as a prop and then he pointed at a woman, pulled the hammer back
Starting point is 01:52:58 and she was shot. It's like giving a girl you don't know what to bar a drink and saying like, here you go. The girl's going to say, I'm going to throw this on the ground because I don't know
Starting point is 01:53:04 where it came from. if you're the actor and they're like here's your gun and be like no no no if you give assumptions yeah like if you're gonna cross the street and you ask the guy is any traffic coming he's like no there's no traffic i'm still not gonna walk out on the street with a blindfold on i'm gonna take the blindfold off and look both ways for myself let's just talk very simple fact right now alec baldwin had a gun that did not come from the onset armorer he then pointed it at a woman in a scene that did not call for him to point it at someone or you or use it pulled the hammer back and the gun was fired i didn't say he pulled the trigger or fired the gun the gun was fired these are indisputable facts everything else is us speculating or making assumptions i didn't say he loaded it i don't i don't know how
Starting point is 01:53:49 the bolt got in there but he had a gun that didn't come from the armorer he pulled it out when he wasn't supposed to pulled the hammer back and pointed at a woman it fired and she was killed why would anyone make any assumption other than alec baldwin pulled out a gun that he did not get from from the armorer and he killed the woman with it the immediate assumption should be why did he kill the woman not what what strange final destination type circumstances can we can we build up to make it seem like it was all one big silly accident and they lied to us from the get-go it was a blanket misfired shrapnel hitter and all those dumb lies misfired Misfired. Yeah. And that's not what misfire means. And now we know it was Alec Baldwin pulling a gun in a scene he wasn't supposed to use it.
Starting point is 01:54:31 He pulled the hammer back, pointed at a woman. The gun did not come from the set department, and he pulled the trigger. Is it that he was supposed to have the gun in the scene and he was supposed to pull it out, but he wasn't supposed to point it? The script supervisor and electrician who were both suing said the scene did not call for him to use the gun. That's so weird. But then Helena Hutchins asked him to pull it out and point it at her. No, he made that up, dude.
Starting point is 01:54:52 Or he's lying. Or he's lying. Again, all these people were on set. So a lot of other people. Who's the other guy who was shot? The director? The director, yeah. If that director is conscious?
Starting point is 01:55:02 He is, yeah. That director was pretty close. He must have heard anything that was said. Right. I mean, he was right over her shoulder. Yeah. So if she told him to point the gun, he's going to be standing there listening. I think it's just – look, I think it's crazy to believe that Alec Baldwin killed the lady,
Starting point is 01:55:15 but it's crazier to make up all this stuff to justify why he didn't. And it's also crazy that his wife pretended she was from Spain for years. Right? I mean, this is a couple known to be liars. Think about how desperate people are to claim Alec Baldwin did not kill,
Starting point is 01:55:29 intentionally kill this woman. She pretended she didn't know the word for cucumber in English. She really, really? At the cooking show, in the Today show, she was making gazpacho
Starting point is 01:55:36 from her homeland and she's like, and now I add the, how you say in English? Cucumber. You're from Boston. Why are you, why are you faking this Spanish accent? That'sumber. You're from Boston. Why are you faking this
Starting point is 01:55:45 Spanish accent? That's weird. Making gazpacho. How you say in English, cucumber? You can see it on YouTube. It's hysterical. All right. End of time says, don't forget everyone. 2024, write in Tim for president, Luke for
Starting point is 01:56:01 VP, Sarpatch Lids for secretary of health, and Ian for for tim science advisor uh no thank you don't waste your vote we're near office this year all right massimo cloca says tim look up the novel uh lolita by vladimir nabokov i wonder why it's called the lolita express interesting yeah that's the connection it's gross we knowita Express. Interesting. Yeah, that's a connection. It's gross. We know. Lady Char React says, what are your thoughts on the proposed legislation to require schools teach the history of communism? I mean, they don't.
Starting point is 01:56:35 It'd be freaking awesome if they did. Like, I learned about this when I was in school. Like, we were just out of the Cold War era. I mean, I was going to school during the Cold War. I didn't know about it. Actually, was I? Yeah, I think I was in first grade. I got taught a little bit about the Soviet Union and about communism bad,
Starting point is 01:56:53 but not about communist atrocity, not about Karl Marx. I didn't know who Karl Marx was. Very little about China and Mao and the Cultural Revolution. I didn't know China was communist in the 80s and 90s. Was it 93 when the Soviet Union collapsed? 89 is when the wall fell. Really? Yeah. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:57:07 I was just talking about that. When did it officially collapse, Soviet Union? Luke, do you know? Was it 91 or 93? 91? Yeah, that's where I was born. Okay, then I wasn't in school. Or was I?
Starting point is 01:57:17 You were. Yeah. You're like seven or six. Yeah, that would put me in preschool and kindergarten. Yeah, in first grade. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be first grade. Yep.
Starting point is 01:57:23 Yeah, I thought so. Crazy. I watched The Challenger blow up in first grade. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be first grade. Yep. Yeah, I thought so. Crazy. I watched the Challenger blow up in first grade. That was weird. I remember Ross Perot. And, like, I didn't know what it meant, but the school asked us to, like, type on a computer who we'd vote for. And I guess they were, like, trying to figure out what our parents were saying about it. So I was like, Ross Perot.
Starting point is 01:57:38 Yeah, Ross Perot. My parents were, like, the two-party system and, like, slamming the table. Yeah. Did they vote for Ross Perot also? I don't know if they actually did um i don't know i think my mom was voting democrat my dad was voting republican but i don't know about back then i don't know about back then i think in 2000 that's what happened like my mom was democrat my dad went republican a lot of what he said has come to
Starting point is 01:57:58 fruition ross pro is a lot like ron ron paul back in the day i mean when he talked about nafta and this giant sucking sound of jobs leaving North America to go to other places and we're going to have a rust. He talked about how middle America will be decimated. Wolf Freak says, Wolf Freak says,
Starting point is 01:58:16 Hey Tim, that station I was denied service at was in Fort Collins, Colorado. Wow. Fort Collins is very... Wow. That's crazy. Ninja Tanuki says, wow wow yeah Fort Collins very uh wow all right Ninja Ninja Tanuki says if Alex
Starting point is 01:58:28 Finger was on the trigger when he pulled the hammer back and it was original or a original fixed firing pin model story is plausible
Starting point is 01:58:35 still no excuse right so what that means is Alec Baldwin was depressing the trigger while he pulled the and that then it
Starting point is 01:58:43 just releases right away so it just flicked back. That sounds legit. That sounds plausible. Alec Baldwin was holding the gun, gripping the trigger tight? Maybe, or like, maybe hair...
Starting point is 01:58:54 Was it a hairline trigger? What are those called? Hair trigger? Well, it is a very light press. A single action. Very light press, and then he pulled it back, and... Possible, but that would mean
Starting point is 01:59:03 he's violating all standard safety protocols on top of the protocols he's already violated i mean look look look just to put it very simply involuntary manslaughter i think is a given he did not receive the gun from the onset armorer right so what is this gun whose was it where did it come from why would he assume anything He wasn't doing his job. He wasn't taking safety seriously. And he admitted to George Stephanopoulos he knew that if someone else other than the prop guy was manipulating the gun, they'd have to give it back to the prop guy. So he gets handed a gun from some random person and goes, ha-ha, click, bang, oops. Involuntary manslaughter at the very least.
Starting point is 01:59:40 To a post. What that says, New York forces medical procedures despite lack of testing and risk concerns meanwhile fauci confirms illegal immigrants southern border crossers are immune from federal travel bans and testing requirements the republic is dying yeah that's one of the things about covid that's been driving me nuts is the amount of people coming across the border that aren't getting tested and then getting sent in and i'm not like a bullish on covid but i'm just like that glaring hypocrisy is insane. And Fauci's response was, that's an
Starting point is 02:00:07 entirely separate issue. It's a good Fauci. I mean, that is like, if you were talking about a pandemic and national security, letting people into your country during a pandemic and just letting them fly. And then shipping them strategically all throughout the country, right? I mean, because they can't leave
Starting point is 02:00:24 them all in Texas. And so they'll fly by nights, drop 500 in Dulles. They'll drop a couple hundred in Miami. So yeah, this is such a serious pandemic that we're just going to spread it. We got one here, and I think this is a good one for Luke. End of Time says, I'm wanting to get into journalism. Would you by chance have any references on educational material which would help me with the craft? I feel like more honest people need to start getting involved.
Starting point is 02:00:46 Yeah. I have Change Media University, which is now free for LukeUncensored.com members, but it goes through all the basic kind of lessons and it goes through how to start your career, how to do things, but it's very difficult.
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Starting point is 02:02:51 And always a pleasure to be with you fine folks having these robust conversations. We need more of it. It was great. Thanks for coming on. And I have my own media organization and platform on LukeUncensored.com where I released a video today and I released another public one on youtube.com forward slash we are change where I had way too much fun and screamed way too much we are change on youtube thanks for having me on thanks for coming everyone I love you Daniel great to see you again man Tim hey thanks again for this uh yeah it looks good
Starting point is 02:03:22 quality outfit it makes it It makes you really pop out of the room in an Ian kind of way. It's very Christmas-y. We're in a gray, dark room. Everyone wears gray, dark colors, but I was like, this is me. It's flavorful. Here I am in my black sweater and contrast Ian. I was going to say
Starting point is 02:03:39 before we go that if you guys really, really want awesome hot dogs, you need to go to Iceland because they're in every single gas station. can get them with like 50 million they take their hot dogs very seriously really yes you need to go to you know you want to hear a crazy story when i went when i went to iceland we were like in between uh reykjavik and that uh blue lagoon place or whatever and there's like a there's like a hamburger joint and i went in there and it was like just me and a friend and like literally no one else and two guys we order food we're eating burgers and two guys walk in and then the one guy was just like hey you're tim pool and i was like oh yeah man he's like oh wow and i think i think he was saying he was from like the u.s and
Starting point is 02:04:18 he was there visiting and just it was like the weirdest thing to be in the middle of nowhere it's like volcanic rock everywhere and there's a burger joint. It's a crazy story. It is very much like being on another planet. I really recommend going to Iceland again. Yeah, it stinks. Smell the farts. It does, but it's cool.
Starting point is 02:04:32 There's beautiful things there. I recommend going to Iceland. Anyway, you guys can follow me on Twitter at Sour Patch Lids. Thanks, Hilda. Our tomorrow's guest is officially confirmed and all that. Yes, correct. We can announce it. That's good.
Starting point is 02:04:43 Oh, yeah, Steve Bannon's coming back tomorrow. Yeah, Pearl Harbor Day, baby. Very nice. We're going to have Yes. Oh yeah, Steve Bannon's coming back tomorrow. Yeah, Pearl Harbor day baby. We're going to have Steve Bannon here and we got a lot to talk about, especially with what's going on. Yes. And here's the crazy thing about what's going on with Bannon. The subpoenas, the charges, the entirety of the mainstream media has his back.
Starting point is 02:04:58 Really? Like this is the weirdest thing. Really? He filed, he wants to get all these documents released and all the media companies were like, we agree. We want to see all the documents pertaining to his case. And the feds were like, no! Shut it down! Stop! So this is going to be a lot of fun. So really excited to have Steve here again.
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