Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #423 - CNN Hit With Demands To FIRE Don Lemon Over Jussie Smollett Scandal w/Jack Murphy

Episode Date: December 9, 2021

Tim, Ian, Luke, and Lydia join friend and fellow YouTuber Jack Murphy to talk over Jussie Smollett's prosecutor accusing Smollett of perjury DURING the trial, CNN facing calls to fire Don Lemon over the Jussie Smollett scandal, Twitter's suspension of an account that did nothing but track the Ghislaine Maxwell trial and had over half a million followers, Democrats retirement crisis, and the young Democrats who are overwhelmingly more likely to despise the opposing party. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I can't believe it. They started deliberating today in the Justice Millette trial, and then the day wrapped. I was actually expecting them to just come right out and be like, walk out of the room, and then just walk right back in in one single motion and go, yeah, he's guilty. I mean, we know he did it. But we'll see. It's been one ridiculous trial. And now CNN is facing calls to fire Don Lemon because he was using the resources of CNN to provide information to his friends in a criminal trial. It's a major conflict of interest. And Jeff Zucker, the president, said he wished he'd had fired Chris Cuomo sooner. He'd have liked to.

Well, here's your opportunity with Don Lemon. But we'll get into all that stuff. We also got crazy news. Democrats, according to CNN, have a retirement problem. I think we're at like 19 Democrats are retiring. So you think a red wave is coming? Republicans are going to win? Assuming that matters, depending on who wins the primary, Democrats are already facing a major vacuum. And then we got this poll coming out of Axios that shows, yeah, it is young Democrats are the intolerant ones.

The poll shows that basically Democrats don't want to and won't interact with people of the opposing political persuasion, but that's not true for Republicans. And I think this exemplifies a lot of what we talk about. So we'll get into all of that stuff. Joining us tonight, Jack Murphy. Hey, Tim, Ian, Lydia, and you, Luke. Good to see everybody. Happy to be back. I appreciate it.

Just came back from Denver where we had another jacked brunch. And there was a lot of people that came out who saw us on the show here and so they wanted to check it out. We had a bunch of people all day at brunch. It was awesome. Check that out. I'm Jack Murphy. Did I say that already? Yeah. Murphy Live on Twitter. What's that? Is that who you are? It is who I am. My one fan as we were

talking about earlier. Luke, what's going on, bro? This guy again? I'm here. Anyway, the shirt that I'm presenting and wearing today says, I tested positive for freedom. And I need to warn you guys, there's some knockoffs going around. There's some bootlegs going around. There's some counterfeits going around.

Do not be fooled by these counterfeits. Thebestpoliticalshirts.com is where you need to go to get this official shirt to support me and my efforts. Thanks so much for having me. We have a version of that shirt, but it's got Luke on the shirt. It's getting meta. It's got Luke on the shirt with an eagle, and it's to scale. So Luke is literally like three inches, and the eagle is like 20 inches, and it's perfectly to scale.

It's amazing. And he's waving a gas and flag. And it's to scale as well. It's a tiny little flag. Tiny little flag. And he's waving a gas flag. And it's to scale as well. It's a tiny little flag. Tiny little flag. It came in like a little taco or something. I want to talk about this Democratic retirement problem because when you told me that there was a Democrat retiring problem,

I thought you meant they weren't retiring. No, they are. That's the problem I'm seeing. Yeah, either way, it's like you can't win. Bailing. Seriously. The solution is not in sight. I don't think the solution comes to the Democrats.

Term limits? Yes, 100% the solution comes to the Democrats. Term limits? Yes, 100% agree. Good to see you. Get him out of there, Jack. Good to see you, Ian. Yes, absolutely. Anyway, I'm here in the corner. Hello, everyone.

Nice to see you all again. You're at the head of the table. Well, technically, yes, but I have a corner between the computers. It's great. I love myself. Thanks, Linda. Yeah, you're welcome. Luke.

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Share the show with your friends. Let's get to that first story. Ladies and gentlemen, here we go. Jury wraps up first day of deliberations in Jussie Smollett's trial for alleged hoax hate crime. And it was funny. We were all sitting here, and I pulled the story up, and I yelled out, they didn't convict him. And then Ian was like, wait, what, really? And I'm like, no, no, no.

I just mean immediately. Like, I mean, like, they actually went home for the day. Because I would have assumed it was going to be cut and dry. Jussie Smollett, he did it. He staged a hoax hate crime. Lock him up. Throw away the key. I know Luke made a good going to be cut and dry. Justice Millette, he did it. He staged a hoax hate crime. Lock him up. Throw away the key. I thought Luke made a good point that he had six charges,

so that's probably why they're taking so long. They've got to figure out for each charge what's going on. Did they overcharge him? Have you guys been watching it? Has it been broadcasted? No, but I've been watching the tweets, people talking about what's going on, and I think in Chicago they don't allow cameras. I've reported from juries, And I think in Chicago, they don't allow cameras. I've reported from juries,

from courtroom proceedings in Chicago, you basically have to go in, listen, write stuff down, run out, and then tweet and then run back in. Is it a federal case? It is, right? No, it's state level. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's state. Well, that's also what you have to do in the federal court proceedings. And that's why a lot of people have been relying on Twitter and people's Twitter accounts to find out what's happening in the Ghislaine Maxwell case, which we're going to talk about in just a little bit. But for this particular case, I mean, there's a lot of charges. We're still waiting to see what they're going to deliberate on. Some people are saying that he was overcharged, but obviously there's a lot of things weighing here. A lot of people are paying attention to this. And there's a lot of interesting

news surrounding Don Lemon, who also is being accused of some very serious accusations and faces his own kind of trial upcoming as well. But this is the big part right here. In closing arguments, special prosecutor Dan Webb accused Smollett of lying under oath. He laid out six key pieces of evidence. He said proved the actor planned the fake attack with the assistance of B and ola osundairo two acquaintances from the show he was hoping those andaro brothers would not cooperate with police he got exposed and now we're in a trial that's that's that's something we we were we were all glued to the rittenhouse trial we know some of those people were up there lying no one said anything about

it not even the defense now we have the prosecutor outright just being like he's perjuring himself. So the prosecutor might actually bring perjury charges. What kind of sentence is he facing if he's convicted on this? Well, I can't tell you. I'm not a lawyer. What I can say is it's six counts of disorderly conduct, but they're felonies. He's pleading not guilty. So I'll put it this way. Some people have said, dude's not going to get prison time for this because he's like a celebrity. He's rich. It's a first offense. It's a silly political thing.

And I'm like, I don't know how much time he'll spend behind bars, if any, but he'll be a felon. He can't travel internationally anymore or he'll struggle to. Can't own a gun. Can't vote. So that ends his career. That ends basically his life in a lot of ways. This is the kind of thing where you make a fake accusation and you're trying to frame somebody and you're trying to cause something bad happened to somebody else in general.

Was there like a victim here? The victim was what? Just him trying. It was just him trying to get attention. No, the victim was Trump supporters. Right. Just in general. And Trump's character.

Right. It's remarkable how many people just were willing to and wanted to believe that there were two big old Trump supporters downtown Chicago at 2 a.m. who saw the lone, you know, gay black actor from Empire and were using that against him. And it's just the it's the most ridiculous story. And nobody believes it. Right. The funny thing is, when the story first comes out, people had a little bit of, like, even, I think a lot of people on the right were like, could that have happened? Like, that sounds like BS, but I want to see more, right? Then we jumped to conclusions. And then it was very obvious.

I was like, oh, this dude staged the whole thing. Well, the corporate media was selling this lie like it was hotcakes. They loved this story. He was on ABC News being interviewed, crying on national television. The anchor was calling him a national hero and everyone was making the points online, especially the blue check marked individuals, especially a lot of celebrities.

If you don't believe this story, you're a racist. You're just as bad as the people who attacked him, which is absolutely freaking ridiculous. And it took people just asking some questions like, hey, how did this really unfold? Because some of the details don't make sense here. The police started investigating it. And it took people just asking some questions like, hey, how did this really unfold? Because some of the details don't make sense here. The police started investigating it. And then there were some people in the media who probably had police sources that were tipping him off during

this investigation that the police weren't believing him because the police had no reason to believe him. He didn't want to take a DNA test. He didn't want to hand over his cell phone. He didn't want to bring forward evidence providing phone. He didn't want to bring forward evidence providing that he's innocent. And throughout this entire hearing, I don't think he did. I think his only defense that people are talking about that I have seen is that he has a personal lifestyle that includes doing things with other dudes. And that's what he was saying on the stand. And I'm like, that's not an argument that doesn't prove anything that you want to prove here at all. Jack, have you been watching the trial or looking into it a little bit i have not

really it's just sort of below my radar of like high value things the only thing i'm really interested in about it is like how how's kamala harris gonna react after she like very publicly was in support of this she's gonna retract that kind of stuff of course not so i'm not gonna say anything but it's below my radar really. But the defense here has been absolutely hilarious. It seems like their defensive strategy was to, like, throw a pie in the face of the court. Like, literally, the defense comes in honking, and throws a

pie and then runs away. So you had the defense attorney claim the judge lunged at her, and then nearly in tears, like, ran out of the courtroom with her mother. I'm not, like, legit. Like courtroom with her mother. I'm not legit. Like Justice Millett's defense was arguing with the judge, demanding a mistrial, claimed the judge lunged at her and then got the mistrial request motion denied. And then the New York Post reported she was nearly in tears as she, her and her mother,

who was in the gallery, left together. And I was just like, this is insane. Justice Millett accused the process or scolded the prosecutor for saying the n-word because he was reading a text message that's their plan so everybody looking at this is like dude is gonna go to jail is he still purporting that he was attacked by two faceless no no he said it was the brothers oh yeah he was like well actually I think he's I they said initially was the brothers. Oh. Yeah, he was like, well, actually, I think he's, they said initially that the Osandaro brothers were sophisticated criminals or something.

That were homophobes. Right. That hated him because he was gay. Meanwhile, the story came out that he had relations with them. This seems like a coming together of both the anti-Trump hate and anti-MAGA hate and just like the clout economy, right? Like people stage things all the time. They go to like suicide forests.

They make dumb things happen. They create all kinds of like spectacles in order to get attention. Do you think that the guy just was like, all right, maybe he just went one step over the line in terms of the clout economy and like trying to just fake attention for himself? One step? Yeah. I mean, he jumped.

Well, several steps. He long jumped over the line. He sized it up. He ran. He made the leap. And then he stuck his legs out. He was really trying to get as far past it as possible. He's like an example of the insanity that culture has reached.

He's a young, insane guy thinking that this is acceptable in any way. Have you seen the, what are they called? Alters. Have you seen this? There's a subreddit called, what is it called? Fake Disorders or something. And there's a bunch of people on TikTok who have fake

they make up mental illnesses. Oh yeah, I saw this. There's a woman and it's like an alter meaning they create creatures or things in their minds that can take over their body or something. And then they, there's one video that's, that's on Reddit right now where the woman runs outside and is doing like a Smeagol dance in the rain and squeaking and squealing while people are

like, oh, and then she comes inside and starts crying saying she didn't know that rain was wet. There's a ton of videos like this. There's one video where this this young woman is like i am a doll my name is doll i am doll self and then like one eye just like moves and then she's like i am an altar and then they have they have another thing i forgot what it's called but it's like a mind companion where they create a fictional person in their brain they talk to so like maybe these aren't fake disorders. What I think we're seeing in the context of Jussie Smollett, like you were saying, all of these things are converging into a singularity, as it were,

creating this weird combination of fake victimhood, fake mental illnesses, social media clout, all of these things swirling together, and now you have this absolute insanity. Smollett went the, I'm going to stage an attack and get the police involved route. Other people just run around like Smeagol from Lord of the Rings. Like, in the rain. And it works.

They get clicks. Singularity. Where have I heard that before? Now, also, when you were bringing up the disorders on social media, the first thing that I thought about were some of the TikTokers that were pretending to be at Auschwitz. I don't know if you remember seeing this. Yes, they were TikTokers. They were making videos of them pretending to be in Auschwitz and being victims portraying that. So this is a symptom of a larger cause and effect by big tech social media and the algorithms that are literally promoting victimhood as power in our modern day society.

And I think that's why Jesse Smollett, in part, was pushed in a way and kind of motivated and manipulated by big tech. Not literally, but because of the actions and because of the cultures that they set, that he was kind of looking at this as a way to position himself better in society by representing himself as a victim. Wouldn't it have been better for him to set a building on fire and put a woman up on the top floor and then have himself sprinting all the way up the stairs and grabbing her and jumping out into the pit, saving her? That's toxic masculinity, Jack. Like the old days. Saving a woman? A woman's going to save you. I got a better way, a better example of how to explain what's happening with this stuff. Have you seen those videos where it's like these three women who are, you know, really excited and they walk into the kitchen and she's like, just wait, just wait, watch.

And then she dumps like a gallon of milk on the counter and it splatters everywhere. And then she like pours chocolate syrup and starts mashing it with her hands and she's like it's so great oh wow wow and then she smears it all over the counter and then puts like graham crackers on it and she's like there it is you've not seen these videos i have yeah you've seen them there's one stomach was turning where she takes a bunch of cheeseburgers and puts them in a blender and then mashes it to a paste and then like puts it in a pan and she's like this is so amazing. There's one where she takes spaghetti out of the pot, dumps it on her counter, pours sauce all over the counter.

She's mixing with her hands on the counter. And she's like, it's going to be so great. Now people can just come in and eat it right off the counter. There's another one where she does it with chips. She pours chips all over the counter, pours nacho cheese all over it. These videos are intentional. At least she knows how to clean, apparently. Right, right. But check it out.

These videos are intentionally off-putting and disgusting. Why? Because people share it going, this is off-putting and disgusting. So they do this video where they're serious, where it's like they mix nasty foods in the blender, and then there's one, it's like she's squirting ketchup in the blender

with burgers and blending it up and acting like it's a real thing. People click on this stuff. They share it. It goes viral. Three girls, one spaghetti bowl? Yeah, apparently. What kind of videos are you watching there, Jack?

But look, I see these videos, and I know exactly what they're doing and why they're doing it. They found a way to go viral in all the noise, and it works, and they make money. Now what's going to happen is that young people are going to see this thinking it's real. Like an adult can see that and discern this is a manipulation attempt. No one would really do something so dumb. Let's think about that for one second. So in your high school, in the old days, there was always a couple or three or a

group of people who were like freaky and would do freaky things. And that would get them attention, right? You would definitely note the person that did the weird thing with the hair and the paper clip in the ear and whatever you would get attention you would acknowledge them you'd focus on them for a second but not everybody in the school was like i'm gonna start doing that right they're like those people are freaks y'all and now we've got this on a national global scale how many of the kids how many people i have to think that my kids if they happen to come across this crap on social media which they're not on very often is maybe they're just like yeah whatever i'm looking at it i'm laughing at it i'm pointing at it but are they really inspired to do it some seem to be in 2006 i started making youtube videos 2006 you'd get the occasional random person that's

like i'm gonna dump spaghetti sauce on my head in a video to get attention and it would be really weird and you'd be like okay i'm not going that direction and then more and more and more as the years went on you started to see this like larger percentage of the mass adopting that behavior not a lot more but it seems to be like a small growth i mean obviously the behaviors you know i think i think we're interested in watching car crashes we like the 600 pound i don't like it but people like the 600 pound life kind of thing they like watching these things maybe as a way to other to other that and to be like i'm not that it's people wait pt barnum figured this out he took people all around the

country to come see and do traveling shows to see a bearded lady the girls that came and saw that didn't walk home from there and be like i can't wait to grow a beard they're like that's crazy yeah but what if instead of having you go to what's what you're told is literally the freak show it is a bunch of people walking around your town being celebrated and cheered for and it's a woman with a big long beard and she's posing and everyone's like oh bravo bravo rewarded and paid when these kids go on t on TikTok and they see the lady going like, oh, yeah, and she's putting spaghetti on the counter, they see a million views. They see a million likes. They see people sharing it and talking about it. They go, I want that.

Yeah. I agree that this is a problem to some degree. But I also know that, for example, my son watches weightlifting and fitness and inspo videos on TikTok and on Instagram. And he comes back and he's like, I'm going to do squat-tober. He comes back and he's like, I'm going to eat this many calories. I'm going to get fit and I'm going to get strong. I'm not saying the kids are going to start pouring spaghetti on their counter. I'm saying that they're going to start thinking that's real.

They're going to believe it's real. So your son believes squat-tober is a real thing. What if some guy was just like, dude, I'm going to get a bunch of bros to retweet my stuff by claiming they're squat-tober. And tober is a real thing yeah what if some guy was just like dude i'm gonna get a bunch of you know bros to retweet my stuff by claiming their squat tober and it's not a real thing now that's fine exercise is fine but what they're doing is disgusting and off-putting and it's intentional i mean a better example is literally jesse smollett people believed him they wanted to believe him i think smart people and older people, like mature people, didn't and don't. But people do. Well, people say we're living right now in an attention economy.

And I really think previous people a long time ago, like Paris Hilton, kind of paved the way for this, where they created controversy. They had people talking about them. And because of that, they got a lot of fame and attention. The Kardashians, I think, are also known for doing that, creating controversy, creating attention, getting everyone to look at them. When they look at them, they're like, hey, buy this and buy this, and they get rewarded. They get paid for this.

We also have to understand this attention economy is just like the food economy. There's a lot of fast food out there, and it's digitized, and it's produced by major corporations, and it's sold to you for super cheap. And there's also high-quality stuff, like Jack was talking about, about people bettering themselves, working out.

But that takes a lot of consideration. That takes a lot of work. That takes a lot of investment than just the cheap fast food that's readily available. The blue armpit haired crazy person shoving things up their nose and declaring that they're a pony is that cheap fast food, in my opinion, from my perspective. It also needs guidance because if you as a kid see both the cheap fast food crap and the good squat stuff and you don't know what's what, you might pick one. Well, when kids are raised on that fast food bull crap, that's all they know. That's what their system is used to taking in. That's what they're going to be obviously taking. And that's what their system is going to want. I That's what they're going to be obviously taking.

And that's what their system is going to want. I'll do one final thought on the Justice Smollett thing. I don't think he cares about politics. I don't think he cares about Trump. I don't think he cares about any of the cultural issues. I think he was like, how can I raise my profile? And that's what he did. But let's jump over to the next story here, the one that I think is actually more important.

CNN faces calls to fire Don Lemon over Jussie Smollett's court testimony. Now, I'll say this. I lean towards they probably should. And for those that don't know the story, Don Lemon, getting privy to information because of the resources at CNN, messages Jussie Smollett when this is going down, telling him, you know, the police don't trust you and basically giving him aid and advice. Now Cuomo got fired for something similar, but I think what Cuomo did was substantially worse. If Jussie Smollett and Don Lemon were friends and they're in communication, I don't think it's the worst thing in the world, but Don Lemon goes on TV only

a few hours after Jussie Smollett implicates him saying he was telling me what was going on behind the scenes. Don Lemon reports on the issue as if he's not connected at all. No calling out the conflict of interest. They then have the guests coming on saying, oh, the testimony, this, the testimony, that. CNN is corrupt. Now, Jeff Zucker, the president, said he would have fired Chris Cuomo sooner. He wanted to. Well, here's his opportunity. He can fire Don Lemon and say, listen, you want to interfere in high-profile stories that you are covering? Termination. That's what it is.

There's not going to be anybody left over there. And aren't they being acquired by Discovery? Is that right? Discover? Isn't CNN being acquired? Isn't there an entire shift in programming being planned for CNN? What, you mean like it's going to turn into the loop of a toilet flushing?

No, that they were trying to return to, quote, more just straight news. Did I misread that? I don't know. I don't see that. I don't see that. I mean, that's in the parallel universe where everything is opposite. And that's also where hell has frozen over. Where did I hear that? You know, the president of CNN, Jeff Zucker, you know what he used to do? parallel universe where everything is opposite. And that's also where hell has frozen over.

Where did I hear that? You know, the president of CNN, Jeff Zucker, you know what he used to do? What's that? He worked with Donald Trump on The Apprentice. He made reality TV. Yeah, this is from CNN Business. CNN set to change corporate hands for the second time just a few years as AT&T spins off all of Warner Media

in a transaction with Zazz Labs Discovery Inc. That's from CNN.com from May of 2021. Discovery. And it's called What the Warner Media Discovery News. And their goal is to transition CNN away from this character and columnist and opinion-driven stuff

towards... This is what they're saying in the news. Don't give me that look. I'm looking at you because I was just going to say they have a very tough job ahead of them. That's very difficult to do. Indeed, but there's going to be none of those guys left. Maybe they're happy to see Cuomo. Maybe they're happy to see Don.

Is it Lemon? Limon. I'll say that. Kamala. Kamala and Limon. So AT&T owns Warner Media that owns CNN? Is this the way it works? Pretty sure.

Okay. They sold the building, their building a few years ago, I think. They've just been crumbling. It's crazy. No, no, CNN. Yeah, CNN's been crumbling. Well, after Trump, their ratings have gone down dramatically, and they have continued to go down dramatically, and the only way that they were able to get ratings is to fearmonger

about COVID. They were literally I think it was Project Veritas that exposed them. Correct me if I'm wrong. Someone will have to double check them. But had one of their producers talking about how they loved having the death count on the screen because they got more ratings and they got more fear mongering

and they got more of an emotional response that had more people tune in into their propaganda when of course they did that bull crap. They said the death numbers for COVID were gangbusters for ratings. They used that word gangbusters. Can we add a counter to our show that was like, you know,

live saved by Joe Rogan. Yes. My live saved. Isn't it crazy? Was it four? Publicly announced, but there's probably more. Aaron Rodgers, Dana White.

And honestly, Tim Pool. All the brilliant doctors Rogan's had on his show. Because he has like health nutritionists and doctors and like educators. And he takes all this information and kind of packages it for people. And all of them get healthy in the next day. And the corporate media freaks out and tries to destroy and obliterate and slander him for helping people. You see Sarah Silverman? No.

She, on her podcast, she came out and she was like, I see the lies. I see it on the left and the right. Like the horse dewormer stuff. This is Sarah Silverman saying this. She's like, ivermectin is prescribed by doctors for all sorts of things, but the left just keeps saying horse dewormer

because they're trying to make the other people look stupid. And then she puts it on Twitter. And I was like, wow. I mean, yes, you are correct. Thank you, Sarah Silverman. Talk to your doctor, of course. And then everyone's responding to it saying, Sarah, you're wrong.

It is Horstie Werber. So CNN's telling the truth. Dana White had a very interesting comment today because he was asked about the Joe Rogan therapy that he went under. And he said he even had a family member that was obese, that was a smoker, that had diabetes, that was in one of the worst shapes that you could possibly imagine. And they got better within 24 hours. And he said all the people criticizing them, all the people attacking him, you know what?

Just don't take it. Go lay in a hospital room or go in isolation for 10 days and deal with this on your own. If you don't like it, you don't have to take it. Don't. Here's more on that story. The WarnerMedia parent company of CNN Discovery is set to merge. Jeff Zucker's future is in jeopardy. He's not, quote, according to Fox, not the supreme ruler he was anymore when they, quote, made him fire Cuomo. That's in FoxNews.com today. This is an interesting story that could actually have some implication on the rest of culture and politics and such.

If CNN takes a major shift in tone. They're losing all their content creators. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, they're pushing them out. Who do they got? They got Brian Stelter. How the hell does that guy have a job doing anything?

Stelter? Yeah. It's amazing. I can't. When I heard. Oliver Darcy is going to be on the main desk pretty soon. Wow. I mean, at least they reported about how

Biden's secretly, the Biden admins have secretly been meeting with the press to garner favorable coverage and that it's been working. Right. That was amazing. They don't understand that they are crooked. Like, they genuinely think this is the scariest thing. They think they're like nobles.

They're so wise and smart. And that's the thing, you know, in the banality of evil, these people don't think they're doing anything wrong. So Oliver Darcy is like, media organizations have been secretly meeting with the Biden administration so that they can help swing coverage more positively to reflect on Biden. And it's like, you realize that's like seriously implicating for the press. And they're like, they report it like it's like you realize that's like seriously implicating for the press and they're like they just don't they report it like it's normal yeah that's called state propaganda that

they willingly admit and brag that they collude in secret meeting with white house officials trying to paint the economic uh picture better than it is right now and and the economic picture is pretty bad so uh objectively bad yeah it's it's hard it It is common for the government to give reporters background information to help explain to them all the issues and whatever. But at the same time, this is really about driving like the inflation stories and the secret meetings because Biden's approvals in the gutter with these news organizations to lobby them to give Biden better coverage is beyond reproach. Indeed. Laughing at Oliver Darcy being sucked up the hierarchy, like coming in from Business Insider, making it into CNN, having the whole upper echelon just like cleared out and then be like, oh, you're a news guy from Business Insider?

Hey, let's move you right up the chain. Who's replaced Cuomo? I don't watch CNN. I guess it was a more moderate gentleman, which I'm relatively optimistic, but it does look like they're firing people to make room for this new buyout that they're doing. I don't watch CNN. I guess it was a more moderate gentleman, which I'm relatively optimistic. But it does look like they're firing people to make room for this new buyout that they're doing. I was going to say, to your point, you were talking about how they think that they're in the right.

So C.S. Lewis talks about how the thing that you should really care about, the thing that you should really worry about is not the people who are malicious for malice's sake, but people who genuinely believe that they are doing the right thing. And I'm starting to think that's what CNN thinks they're doing because they seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that maybe they shouldn't be having secret meetings with the White House. I disagree with you. No, I don't think so. You think they know that what they're doing is wrong?

At the higher level, I think it's like Smeagol, from Lord of the Rings, to use that reference once again. I think they know they're polishing a turd. I don't know. They have a whole bunch of family-friendly show, but they have a whole bunch of that on them, on themselves,

and they're trying to polish up and they know what they're doing. You can't get away from the smell. You can't get away from reality. Mythbusters has proven you can polish a turd. Oh. Oh, really?

Yeah, they did it. It was shiny. It was crazy. So that's what CNN's doing. But let's be real. Let's be real. I have nothing to say to that. No, no, hold on.

I could go on. You can. You can, in fact, polish a turd. But but guess what it's still a turd of course so cnn can do whatever they want to try and get it get away but like you were saying you know just now the stink remains so it you know they're gonna have some guy walk up and be like oh that's a shiny brown what what is that did you did you polish feces and And CNN's going to be like, yes. There's other references I want to make here, but it's a family-friendly show. But one theory that I have is that there's a lot of people that are being absolutely overpaid at CNN. Their ratings are going down, their revenue is going down, their advertisement's going down.

They're interested in the buy-off as we're hearing about. So this could be also an attempt of them offloading a lot of their big contracts. We saw Chris Cuomo argue with Jeff Zucker and publicly even release a statement saying, Jeff Zucker knew everything that I was doing, and now he decides to fire me? Yeah, caught. He had a fat contract. Don Lemon, fat contract. They don't deserve that ridiculous limousine liberal money, but they get it. And I think now they're facing the ramifications of them going too crazy.

Imagine them trying to make their own way in the independent media space. Do you guys remember when Don Lemon pretended like he was quitting? Yeah. He was like, this is the last show. Just for ratings. Yep. I remember that. And everyone was like, oh, Don Lemon, Hidden City's quitting.

And then the next day he's like, we were just changing the name of the show. Oh, my God. It was like CNN Tonight with Don Lemon, and now it's like Don Lemon Tonight or something. And so he made it seem like he was quitting. These people are pathetic. In the same vein as Jesse whatever, his Smollett Kamala. That's why they're friends. Lemon.

But you know what the other thing, too, is about Don Lemon? He has also been accused of assaulting that guy yeah he's being sued over it right so it's like bro you got cuomo with his harassment thing and you got him with his collusion thing and you got something similar with don lemon could you imagine let me tell you so you know you know we're we're making new shows here at tim cast i heard we got pop culture crisis and we're looking for talent. I couldn't imagine walking into a conference room where it's like, Mr. Poole, your

on-air talent applicants are available. And I was like, okay, and I walk in, it's just Don Lemon sitting there. That's CNN. Jeff Zucker walks in and he goes, ah, jeez. All right, Don. You're all we got. Make it work. Right. But they're paying him a lot of money. They're paying four million. Make it work. But they're paying him a lot of money. They're paying four million.

Six million. Yeah, I think they're paying him four million. Four million dollars to be dumb and on TV. Didn't he have like $17 million on his contract? Was it 17? I don't know. Google it. Pharmaceutical advertising.

Biggest revenue source for cable news, I believe. And then also straight into their pockets. So they're basically just paid shills for pharmaceuticals for the people giving you the vaccine. There you go. I wish it was more like, you know, they used to do TV shows in the 50s where the commercial was actually like the opening part of the show, and it's like you get that wholesome show where the dad walks in,

you know, like he wakes up and he comes downstairs. What's for breakfast, honey? She's like, today we're having Mapleson's pancakes. And she holds it up like they're the best pancakes for your family. And the kid runs and he's all excited. I would love that if that's what CNN was doing. Like Don Lemon sits down, he cracks open a pharmaceutical like a pill bottle. And he's like, I better take my meds. Otherwise, I might go crazy and eat his pills. Allegedly to the according to the New Yorkork post chris como is prepping a lawsuit

against cnn for the remaining 18 million dollars on his contract that's a lot of money you got to sell a lot of big pharma ads to get that kind of money and if you ever have the misfortune of turning the channel on the boob tube and going on cnn you're more likely to see a whole bunch of side effects mentioned uh from all the big pharma advertisements that they run on there if they're not running segments paid for by pfizer check this one out i missed this one it's from a couple days ago this is new york post chris cuomo prepping to sue cnn for more than 18 million dollars over contract they say fired cnn host chris cuomo is set to sue for $18 million. He's hired lawyers and is preparing

to file a lawsuit over the remainder of the four-year contract he signed last year after a bitter back and forth about what the network knew of his secret efforts to aid his brother.

His contract was reportedly worth $6 million annually, leaving between $18 million and $20 million that he would be owed, sources said,

adding that Chrisris cuomo would also likely seek damages this dude's getting paid that much money well i don't understand it i really committed a crime and got fired for that he's not going to get any when you do when you do the bidding of the special interests and the multinational corporations they have a way of rewarding you and that's one of the way they reward you is is it not only just a way to reward you but is it not almost required for these evildoers to pay people that much money to be evil like that yeah that's what the price of his soul is is he evil or is he just stupid i mean i think i think honestly i think he's i think they're evil and you know for a while i've been like well you know never attribute to malice blah blah blah but when chris cuomo pretended to be in quarantine like okay that's evil yeah and

but i gotta say i don't know if you gotta i don't know if it's that you have to pay people to overcome their scruples or that people who are evil know that their their evil is valuable you know what i mean so like basically you get a bunch of evil people being like, look, CNN, we know that, you know, you want to hire a bunch of evil people. And we know you got to pay top penny for the good evil people. So Chris Cuomo was like, I'm evil, you know, and you got to pay. So CNN's like, I guess we have to because you get a regular person. They're going to be like, I'm not going to lie on TV. Diabolical.

The dumber diabolical question has been answered. Diabolical. Well, when I was doing a lot of press coverage on the ground, whether it was covering the G8 or the NATO meetings, a lot of times when I walked in there, they had parties and then after parties and then they had champagne everywhere. A lot of these top media figures have huge substance abuse problems. They pop pills. They drink a crap ton of alcohol. I had the fortune of actually getting hammered with the White House press corps at Bilderberg one year. And they are absolute substance abuse people who have tortured souls. Some of them. Some of them, I would say, are evil.

I think we shouldn't generalize because there are some people that are trying to do a good job. But by and large, a lot of them are either just drug-abused alcoholics or just evil people, sociopaths. Where does that money come from? AT&T, the government, Pfizer. Send me your text messages. No, listen, listen, listen. We were talking with Bannon the other day about co-opting,

and he's saying someone's going to come along and offer you $200 million, and they're going to be like, but maybe you shouldn't have Luke on the show. He's a little too edgy. And that's what they try to do, right? This is what CNN is. How do they get the money to pay Chris Cuomo $6 million a year when he gets lower ratings than we do in the key demo? And I think he barely gets more than us with all viewers. With all due respect, perhaps the question we should be asking is why don't we have Pfizer as a sponsor? That's a great question. Good question.

That's great. You know, I'm thinking about it right now and I think five boosters, Pfizer hit me up. Yeah, yeah, wink, wink. But this should be obvious to everybody because I'll tell you this, running a company,

looking at ad rates, looking at CPMs, here's what's fascinating to me and something that kind of, you know, was a surprise when I started, you know, when I'm getting into this business and the company's growing, I get these advertisers hitting me up and they're like, hey, we want to advertise on your show. Here's our offer. And I'm like, that's a ridiculously low sum of money. I'm not interested. And then it turns out I'm like talking to these reps and they're like, that's a normal amount of money for the viewership that you have. And then I was like,

no, that can't make sense. I mean, I know how much these other networks charge, and I know their ratings, and I know we have higher ratings than them. And they're like, uh-huh. Something's rigged. It's plain and simple. So if CNN is – what is Cuomo's ratings? Let's pull up Cuomo's ratings. Let's pull up CNN ad – what is it?

Ad week ratings. And let's see what they got. December 5th. What day should we go with? We got Monday, December 6th. Scoreboard. CNN. What time period was Cuomo on?

Was he on at 9? Anderson Cooper got 115,000 people in the key demo. What? That's it. It? That's insane. 115,000 people in the key demo from uh 8 p.m to 9 p.m and then uh tonight whatever is 123 000 don lemon 108 000 and then 110 000 carlson gets half a

million in the key demo in one hour so we don't you know he's he's he's a little bit more than double what we end up getting for the most part but live then when you look at cnn's total viewership this is people who are older anderson cooper is only getting 708 000 carlson's getting three million massive but anderson cooper 708 000 that i would say the way we structure our show, because it's the show and the clips, we absolutely get more than that across the board in the key demo. Definitely. The key demo being what? 35 to 54? 25 to 54 is the, you know, whatever it says, 25 to 54 demographic.

We actually get 18-year-olds in there as well. We get 24. Like the entirety of my demo is like 25 to 55 men, basically. Yeah. I think the average age for us is like 29 or something, 29-year-old dudes. Yeah. And so when I start looking at how these ad rates work and what's going on, you start to realize it's all fake. CNN isn't making the money for this.

Maybe they are. Maybe they are. My opinion, based on what I know, they're probably not. They're probably not. It's like Google is not making the money for their ads. It's Alphabet subsidizing it. AT&T is subsidizing CNN. I just looked up AT&T government contracts.

And I mean, 3.3 billion from the NSA. This was three years ago. We live in a communist country. Sort of. The government prints money, gives money out, weird investments, Federal Reserve. The whole system obfuscates how money is printed and where it goes. And then somehow you end up with Chris Cuomo getting a $24 million

contract. $24 million. It says here, Google first result, total CNN revenue, $1.7 billion. How? How is that possible? How? It must be because the ad buyers from Northrop Grumman

and Pfizer and the rest of them are bad at making choices. Or they know that there's a certain segment of people that make influence on contracts and propaganda and that it makes sense for them. Like, have you ever wondered why you're watching a TV show and there's an ad for like a fighter jet? Yeah. Right. It's not because you're going to buy a fighter jet. It's to like prime you to make it okay that they're buying fighter jets from north of grumman or whoever

whoever makes them i remember when i was like a kid and first started to understand how advertisements worked and i never really thought about it until i was watching daytime tv and they kept advertising diapers and stuff exactly you're like why are they advertising tampons to me and then i was like you're watching the wrong show, bro. I get it now. They're looking for, you know, so the internet really changed things because ads can be served by the individual. Yeah. And now it's just creepy.

It's really funny when you'll see people. They'll be like, why is Facebook advertising this to me? And then everyone's like, oh, bro. That's what you want. That's a targeted ad. Yeah, exactly. I just got an advertisement for some gauntlets. I almost bought them. Medieval gaunt an advertisement for some gauntlets i almost bought

them medieval gauntlets i had to stop myself tomorrow you're gonna get advertisement for a polished turd yeah i get a lot of protein bars and this is actually weird to me because i'm like why are they all of a sudden advertising this i haven't because i've been doing keto for a while and i haven't been well i should say i call it colloquial keto like i haven't because I've been doing keto for a while and I haven't been, well, I should say I call it colloquial keto. Like I haven't been hardcore testing strips and like measuring, you know, fat content stuff, but I've been doing heavy fat, low sugar, high protein. And so it's like, it's, you know, it's pretty good, but I don't Google search any of this stuff. Yeah. It's not part of my lifestyle. I literally just like, I don't want to eat the donut. Just give me the jerky. And then all of a sudden on Instagram, it's just advertising this stuff to me.

It's probably hearing your voice say keto, keto, keto and your Google watch. I wonder if it's sending your biometrics to the lab and they're like, he will like keto bars. He needs protein. He likes protein. They can tell if you have a heart rate spike as you observe an advertisement to know if you get more of them. Well, also a lot of the TVs that people are buying are very affordable and very cheap compared to what they were a few years ago because now they data harvest what you watch,

how far you're paying attention to something. Some TVs are even equipped with cameras, with microphones. So the level of spying that has been happening here by the major corporations is absolutely intense. And there was even a couple moments between me and you, Tim, we were talking about something privately, And then a couple of moments, I walk away, I'm on my newsfeed and I see an advertisement for it twice. I can't remember right now what it was, but twice I remember we were talking privately, walk it away,

go on social media and it's right there. There's a couple of issues here. One is surveillance, bad, obviously. Put that aside for now. But in terms of like receiving targeted advertisement, which is better to just be sitting there like seeing a torrent of like Tide,

Tampon, and Midol commercials or to actually get commercials for something that you find interesting that you may actually want to buy. No, no, no, no, no. I disagree with you.

I just asked a question. I didn't even make a fucking question. How dare you, Jack. He said, bend him over. What would be better? I just asked a question. I didn't even make a fucking... How dare you, Jack. That's it. He said... Bend him over. What would be better? It would be better to get random ads. You know why?

The most annoying thing to me is I'm like, oh, man, we need a hammer. I'll just order one and I'll go online. I'll type in like, order hammer online. And then I click buy and I do like overnight shipping. And then for the next week, every ad is like every different kind of hammer. And I'm like, yo, I bought it already. Like, I don't need another one. So the targeted advertising is just not as good as it needs to be to make you happy.

They need to also know when the loop is closed. So I swear to God, this happened one time. I bought a pair of shoes. A year later, I got an advertisement for the exact same pair of shoes a year later. And I had just been thinking to myself, I want to replace these shoes. So to me, that was actually helpful because, oh, yeah, I was just thinking about that. Click, boom, bottom. In Austin, we were talking about doing cryotherapy.

Just a conversation between me and you. Literally got an ad for cryotherapy as we were down there. It's not a coincidence. Bro, Facebook knows when you poop. Yeah. Okay. So how principled are we then if we walk around with these devices in our product in our pockets all the time obviously not very yeah jack if you if you if a genie if a

magic genie just appeared before you and was like i'm gonna give you the ability to fly yeah you could fly yeah but you're gonna be half as strong as you are now would you take it well i'm pretty strong so yes you cut your overall strength in half but you can fly yeah i could i could do that i have room for that so with these devices this is the this is the the the faust what bannon called the faustian yeah the faustian deal or whatever bargain that we get this device that seriously empowers us hooks us up to the network we can tweet we can share ideas we can produce content we can. But in exchange, a part of our soul is captured by the device. That's indeed, that's absolutely true. Now, there are alternative models for this, right? John Rob

is somebody who went, who not only wrote a book called Brave New War, who not only advised people, who not only created RSS, right? But now he's like, actually, he went to Congress and advised Congress on this, how there are ways that we can own our own data so that we can actually enjoy the benefits of this and not sell our souls and get the benefit of our personal data, which I think would be a welcome advance in this environment. But I don't see that happening. With smart TVs and smart refrigerators, how do we kind of get around us becoming the product at that stage? I remember me and Tim spent like an entire day going to a special store just so I could buy a TV that didn't have a microphone and a camera

and an internet connection to it. So, you know, it's becoming harder and harder, but that's the things that you have to do. What was the special store called? A flea market? No, it was actually a Best Buy. And it was one of the Best Buys that had one of the few televisions

that didn't have an internet connection, that didn't have a microphone and camera. But what was the... Why that? When you've got this thing listening to you constantly. Because I could put this away whenever I want. Like a TV's in my room, you can't really move it around.

You can't put this in a box. What's that on your wrist there? It's a whoop. It's a whoop. It's a whoop. Health tracker. Is it listening? I just signed up to get the four when it's released. It's going to take forever.

I want to talk about this other story. We're going to get serious here. We got this from TimCast.com. Twitter suspends account that simply provided Ghislaine Maxwell trial updates. The account Maxwell trial tracker had only account, Maxwell Trial Tracker, had only been active for two weeks, but had over 525,000 followers. The big tech giant claimed the court updates violated their policy

against platform manipulation and spam. The owner of the account, the Free Press Report, wrote on their Substack page that all other accounts they have made in the past were also suspended. My understanding here is that

they were doing a bunch of tracking of a bunch of different issues politically, and Twitter nuked the account, took them all down. Now, a lot of people are saying this is Twitter trying to make sure people can't figure out what's going on with the Maxwell trial. But some people have also said the trial is basically a cover up anyway. Well, how many witnesses they call only a handful, nothing like no major players, and they're already winding it down. Is that what's going on? Essentially, pretty much. Yeah. players, and they're already winding it down. Is that what's

going on? Essentially, pretty much. Yeah. I mean, Prince Andrew should have been there. Trump should have been there. Bill Clinton should have been there. They should have been testifying what they saw, what was going on. They should have been held under oath. And again, to me, this is a larger cover-up operation from the beginning. And I think the media coverage reflects on it because we found out little tidbits there about how many times Jeffrey Epstein visited the Bill Clinton White House. We found out other people who flew on the Lolita Express. We found out a lot of the really illicit things that happened on that airplane that we can't even mention on this broadcast. So there's little tidbits of information that we got. But the main way people were finding out that information was through this Twitter account

that has amassed close to a half a million users who were following it, who were paying close attention to it, and were doing the job that the corporate media should have been doing. I'm going to ask a question. I know the answer to you, but I'm going to play dumb anyway. Who's the prosecutor on this? The lead prosecutor is a rookie prosecutor. The prosecuting team also has James Comey's daughter, the person who accidentally deleted the Jeffrey Epstein

footage when he was in the jail originally from his originally alleged first suicide attempt. So she's a part of the prosecution. This is such a brazen and open operation do you think that they just decided to be like hey you know what we're just gonna do this we know everybody's gonna criticize us for doing this but it's better than what would happen if we didn't let me let me know what you guys watching think right now i think everyone's gonna say yes but like did they take down this twitter account because it was providing information on the Maxwell trial? Was this a deliberate attempt to stop the information from getting out? Well, this was one of the few ways that the information was getting out.

It was getting out there to a lot of people. So just on that basic merit, there is reason to believe that. And a lot of people are asking, why did this happen? Give us a reasonable excuse. Tell us what generic, vague, made-up Twitter rule that they violated. And Twitter hasn't been that responsive. Twitter hasn't come forward with any evidence, with any explanation here that I've seen that justifies this larger takedown of something that is of such public interest. Right. With that kind of scale, they should give a public declaration

as to why they did it. Is there not an intrepid, up-and-coming local journalist wherever this trial is being held who's sitting in there live-tweeting everything and trying to get this done? You can't live-tweet. Fine, fine, fine, fine, fine. Walking out into the hallway and then tweeting everything. You've got to leave the building.

Gosh, you guys are killing me. Is there not somebody like that, some 23-year-old reporter who's got 3,000 followers? Technically, there isn't, because when you go into these buildings in the federal courts, they take your phone from you. You then have to go to the courtroom and sit down. Then you have to leave, check, take your tag and get your phone back, go outside, tweet, then walk back, hand the phone back, and you're missing parts of the trial. So there are people. I think Daily Wire's got somebody who's been giving some insights,

but it's very difficult. The best thing people can do is sit there with a notebook, taking notes, if they even allow that to be completely honest, and then leave and then start tweeting one by one what's going on. But that's at the end of the day. So this account that's giving as much detail as possible, probably because a bunch of other people, look, if you've got 10 people and they're coming out of different periods and tweeting things you've got one centralized account that's sharing this information making it easy for people to digest twitter nukes that account and now who

do we follow you might follow one guy who's covering it but he's only giving you one tenth of the information so to me this it's just it's just sometimes it's too obvious and i'm sick and tired because you'll hear this in the media. Let's say, oh, they're conspiracy theorists for thinking that. Oh, OK. The one major main like the major account consolidating all this information gets suspended for spam and manipulation. Now, I'm sorry, I don't buy it.

Show us evidence. We need proof. This is in invested public interest. The people demand to know. They accused Veritas of this, didn't they? They claimed that James O'Keefe was like manipulating accounts and having bots or something or running multiple accounts. And I think that's why James sued. He's like, I've never run multiple accounts. What are you talking about? That's what they took him down for. It's a trick. I think they did the same thing with Milo Yiannopoulos. Now, I don't know how much I trust Milo when he says he didn't do this but twitter was like you know running multiple

accounts or something i believe that's what happened i could be wrong and then i'm like you got to prove that you can yeah i've looked into this you can run multiple accounts you can't run multiple accounts for the sake of avoiding a ban is what is what the rule is last i last i looked into it but i'm just sort of app appalled at this idea that the regime basically. I think I saw Cernovich talking about this. That the regime is basically deciding to take a credibility hit. Instead of letting the facts come out. Like, yeah.

It's clear that we're covering things up. Ha ha. We're definitely covering things up. Our corruption. The extent to which we're willing to go to hide the stuff. Is an acceptable thing to expose. to hide the stuff is an acceptable thing to expose whereas not the content is acceptable to expose this kind of makes me feel optimistic i mean these these are desperate acts by desperate people what they did to veritas with

the fbi raids against james because that has that not been remedied in some way somewhat um they just won a special master i think it's called at the fbi who's going to oversee the documents they seized or like an extra third party is going to do that or something. So that's a victory for Veritas. But the fact that they raid Veritas, I think the courts ruled they can't release certain documents saying the privacy of, you know, Ashley Biden or whatever. Desperation. They're scared. Taking down this account is overt. I think it's I think it's reasonable for us to assume that the trends that are in place are going to worsen and not improve. So the corruption that's on display, the chaos that's out there, the disorder that's coming, the brazen, brazen? Brazen.

Brazen, cop chopter. Brazen, you know, just cover up and illegitimacy of all this is only going to get worse. Can you even consider one alternative universe or some factor at all that would act as a damper on these trends worsening? So we should expect to see more of this in these death rattles. And I think the story that we're going to get to a little bit later is part of all this. I would say that they're more... About the Axios pool and about the hate.

Oh, yeah, definitely. We'll jump to that. But I would say that they're definitely more brazen than desperate. I mean, for over 30 years, they were able to run an international child extortion trafficking operation with the help and assistance from almost everyone in law enforcement, in politics, in big tech, in the corporate media, all playing along, all hanging out. McCain's wife even said, we all knew what he was doing, but we just couldn't do anything because he was connected. Who was he connected to? To, of course, the intelligence agencies. And one of the last tweets that this Twitter account that was taken down was them tweeting about the FBI information that was seized, the hard drives,

the CDs. And they talked about how a lot of the evidence was correspondent with FBI tags that looked like they were previously on them before they were even tagged and categorized by the FBI. So again, the FBI was involved here. The intelligence agencies were involved here for over 30 plus years doing unspeakable things, horrible things for children, knowingly for political power, for extortion, for whatever was going on here, because we still only know very little about exactly what was happening here. But the little we know is absolutely sickening.

It's terrifying and it should make everyone feel absolutely horrid about government. Did you see the story about the CIA analysts? Yeah, of course. That doesn't surprise me. Looking at disgusting, or no, no, trying to solicit, we'll keep it family friendly, a child. And they were like, yeah, but if we prosecute this guy, state secrets could get out.

So, you know, how often has that been going on? It's really funny because it's like how right is alex jones because i'm telling you at this point when he's talking about interdimensional beings and like human cow hybrids and cell towers i'm starting to get scared i'm like this thing's true this thing i think joe was saying he's like pull that meme up and it's like he's right about this this this and now we're like human chimp hybrids and he's like i don't know i'm just saying right it's like a list you are here right yeah that that that's where i'm, I don't know, I'm just saying. Right, it's like a list. You are here. Right. Yeah.

That's where I'm kind of like, you know what? I'm ready to believe. Like, we've seen all of these things that everyone said was crazy, conspiracy nonsense about elitist, government-affiliated, you know, abusers. And now it's like more and more information is coming up. On top of the CIA thing, it's what Luke was just mentioning, that it appears the FBI had this evidence and had tagged it before and did nothing yep for how long was it 20 years well the whole operation went on for at least 30 years from what

we know because there was there was victims coming to the fbi in 1996 1996 the fbi sat down interviewed and investigated allegedly allegedly, Epstein. There was a lot of victims coming forward. There's a lot of police officers that tried to do something. They were stopped. State prosecutors were stopped. Politicians were stopped. Judges were stopped.

And they were told, you can't touch this guy. But if you do, we're going to give him special treatment. And I think if we really understood the horrors that the government is capable of, we can't even fathom what they are capable of because what little we know is still, we can't mention it. We can't talk about it here on the show. We should be able to.

We can't. Well, family friendly. Of course. Logically. There's no one telling us we can't talk about exactly what Epstein did other than we don't want to

scare your children and freak people out. So let's just say atrocities against minors and children that were tax funded with your money, world leaders involved, Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, even Donald Trump flying on these planes. Why did Clinton get involved? Well, Clinton was involved with Epstein as far as the early 90s. So you see in the White House logs, even Jeffrey Epstein being an official guest inside of the White House. So did they know each other beforehand? Some people are saying most likely, yes. A lot of people are

also saying that he knew Donald Trump and Bill Gates a lot longer than previously known. And again, a lot of the secrets went away with him from his alleged suicide, which one of the prosecutors in the Ghislaine Maxwell case just magically deleted and got rid of the footage yeah the footage and she you know is that that's like a widely accepted fact yes she released the press release explaining why footage mysteriously was disappeared and no longer existed of the first that was her they just don't care they just don't know they it's an oh no no they just don't care what people think right it's just an open it's an open operation i disagree i think they're freaking out i think this is sheer panic no no no i hear what you're saying but they just don't care about like these

acts that they're taking to cover up these things that they're panicking about i hear you saying i i think they do care i think they're just sweating bullets going what do we do and they're like we have to keep walking delete the footage and it's like don't make people are gonna know we did it it's like we have no choice man yeah no that's probably do it that's exactly and they have they're shaking man and they have thousands of photos thousands of videos we're not talking about just a few politicians the politicians we mentioned here thousands of pieces of evidence that is in their hands that has extreme political power because they could come to whatever politician, whatever celebrity, whatever corporate media representative, whatever big tech personality, whatever guy that worked at Microsoft. They could come to him and be like, hey, look at these nice photos and videos we have here. We need you to promote fake meat.

We need you to release GMO mosquitoes. We need you to release contraception that's going to be controlled by us. They could do that, metaphorically speaking, hypothetically. Wait, can I give that to my daughter and I can control that? I want to talk about what's going on with these documents and the evidence they've had

and they've been sitting on. I want to say this. I've seen the memes on the Trump forums where they say I don't care who's implicated. I want to say this. I have seen the memes on the Trump forums where they say, I don't care who's implicated. I want the evidence out. And I've seen the same thing from people on the left. They're everyone in the populist kind of, you know, regular working class American types are basically saying, release all the evidence.

We want it. How do we get a major grassroots movement between left and right to be like, hey, everybody, we're going to stop arguing with each other just for one minute because we know they have evidence on Epstein and these global elites and what they were doing. And we all want to know who it is. But that trove has so much power to the FBI. The FBI is becoming more political by the day. Even through their founding with J. Edgar Hoover, they were exploiting secrets, spying on individuals and using that for political power. So for them to have this weapon, this power, I do not see them giving that up.

I see them holding it indefinitely for themselves because it works too much in their favor and it works in too much of what they always, it's their routine business. It's what they always did. So there should be a bipartisan push. I'm all for it. I don't know how we do this,

but I think starting the conversation is very important. Why hasn't Maxwell come out and just thrown everyone under the bus? There's a lot of things happening behind the scenes that we do not know. There could be some promises. There could be some deals being like, look, we'll give you like a 10-year prison sentence, but you'll do five and then you'll just come out of it. She could have threatened them by doing that, and then they could have doubled down on her. She's also being tortured, allegedly, according to her defense, in the very corrupt prison system that she's in. She's in one of the worst prison systems that exists in all of the United States, places where the toilets are literally overflowing with crap.

I don't buy it. I do. Listening from similar stories coming out of that specific jail, that jail is absolutely corrupted, and it's known for abusing prisoners. I don't believe anything pertaining to any of this stuff. I would be more inclined to believe that she's sitting in an underground luxury bunker, and they're like, we're so sorry about this, Ms. Maxwell. Don't worry. Once it's all over, we'll let everyone think you're in prison and you'll be on a private island minding your own business. I agree. That's also a possibility here. That's also one of the things with how brazen they are, with how crazy they are,

that they could probably pull this off as well to make this a part of their cover-up operation. I think both are possible, but we need more evidence. We need more transparency. We need more oversight. And we need this huge injustice that happened to thousands of children to be rectified, and it's not. We need that evidence. We need that extortion power taken away from the state immediately.

Let's do this. We have this story from CNN. Democrats officially have a retirement problem. So there's a lot of people saying that there's going to be a red wave because historically there should be, just because we got a Democrat in the presidential office, so people are going to vote Republican. How about this becomes one of the most important issues for every constituent in the country, or at the very least, those that are watching, tell your friends about it.

I'll tell you this. Come Christmas time, when you're having those political arguments, here's what you should do. You should be like, you know, you've got that annoying aunt, you know, Sally or whatever, and she's like, Joe Biden, blah, blah, blah. And you just go, you know what? You know what? I might disagree with you on that, but you think Epstein was bad, right? How about we demand of all politicians, this is the issue. Because can that unite us, perhaps? Right? Democrats are bailing out crazy, right? You. Because can that unite us perhaps? Right? Democrats are bailing out crazy, right?

You would think that would unite us, but then, well, actually that one teacher who came out with the minor attracted persons thing, didn't she have to quit? Right? Wasn't there like a professor who came out, like made some presentations? So there's not like, so this was a question, and I'm sorry, we can get back to what you just said, but this was something I wanted to think about earlier. There's not a coordinated effort to normalize these things that Epstein and Maxwell did and the universities and all these things. No, no, no. Listen, listen.

Great reset. When you're talking to the average person, they know nothing about what you just said. Yeah. That's in the weeds inside baseball. But they have heard of Epstein, or at the very least, a little bit like, oh yeah, that trial that's going on, being like, hey, how about we get this information? So this is what I've been saying. Democrats are retiring in large numbers. And I got to tell you, I think it's meaningless. It certainly just means other Democrats can run in many of these districts

and probably win. And even if Republicans end up replacing them, it's no guarantee we're going to get any of the issues that we want solved, solved, be it inflation, be it COVID or be it things related to, you know, Epstein evidence, unless people start voting in the primaries, unless people run in the primaries. Otherwise, what, what do we get more establishment politicians? Just give more Democrats. It opens up more opportunities for a big giant red wave. What is a euphemism for the Republicans taking over Congress that doesn't sound like female menstruation? A red wave. The red wave. 19 Democrats.

The red flood. But hold on, too. Look, 11 Republicans have also retired. And then we got Devin Nunes is resigning. What do you make of that? Because I have argued oftentimes that Trump has shown very little loyalty to people what do you make of Devin Nunes and and I love Kash Patel I love the work that he's done Devin Nunes did a lot of good work on

the Russia thing what do you make of Devin Nunes being the lead in battling the Russia incident on behalf of Trump in Congress, and then retiring from Congress to take a job with Trump at a billion dollars corporation. Two billion or whatever? Is it a billion? Yeah, I have no idea, but I'm just euphemism. I don't know. What do you make of that? Nothing.

Nothing? Just normal? Well, I mean, it's a guy taking a job. It's Devin Nunes, and he's doing what Devin Nunes does. I think it's interesting that he's resigning, and he's going to head up this media outlet, whatever, or this media opportunity, social media. But what of it?

What is that to say? Yeah, I don't know. In my mind, it was actually just an opportunity where it seemed like Trump was showing loyalty to somebody. But I don't know. Sorry, off topic. Was it? I mean, it's a different.

Oh, it's Trump's Truth Social or whatever? Yeah. Partnering up with Rumble? I mean, it's good to see that there's going to be this infrastructure, but... Wait, they're partnering with Rumble? Yeah. Trump's... Yes.

Trump's organization is going to partner with Rumble? Partner might not be the exact right word. I don't know if they're organizing with Rumble somehow. It's a distribution deal. Interesting. Trump's media company is going to use Rumble for their distribution. They're doing a distribution deal. A distribution in the sense of like it's going to be branded Rumble or it's going to be like an AWS type thing where it's like providing the infrastructure.

The infrastructure will be Rumble's infrastructure for Trump's company. But it will all be branded Trump, whatever it's going to be. I think it will just be a video player on Truth Social. It's not going to say Trump anything. Like when you go on Twitter, the video player doesn't say Twitter on it. Right. So Truth Media is going to need videos and they're going to use Rumble to do it. So that's partnering for their video side of things. That's a lot to process. It's huge. It's huge. It's competition. Now, I've been saying for a while that, you know, Republicans got no ground game. And I still think that's true, but this is important. So I guess I can say to your point about Devin Nunes in the face of what's

happening with, you know, with the Democratic Party, I think they're running scared because they know a red wave is coming. Devin Nunes joining this media venture, there was a news article that said it shows you where the true seat of power lies or something like that. And I'm like, yeah, who disagrees with that? The media is more powerful than a politician. Many of these politicians, including Republicans, care more about the opinion of the New York Times than they do their own constituents. So Nunes goes to Truth Social, seeking to build influence and counter Silicon Valley. And Rumble and Trump are doing this because they realized they got no ground game. Going out, waving little American flag, saying, vote for me ain't going to cut it.

You need to create and spread culture and ideas. I'm surprised it took them this long to figure it out. They still really haven't figured it out. Yeah, I know. They absolutely haven't figured it out. Their server is going to shut them down. The ISP is going to block them. Get ready, guys.

Or like you said, Vanguard, State Street, BlackRock are going to buy up public shares of it. Buy up Rumble and then ban Trump off the platform. And they're going to get voting shares. And a lot of people said, yeah, well, Rumble hasn't given up voting majority. I'm like, that doesn't mean anything. You know,

it's frustrating because... Hold on. Let me read this right here. It says, stocks of special purpose acquisition company CF Acquisition Corp. That's the thing that locals merged into Rumbles merged into this publicly traded company says that it says it will now have count Trump as a member on the platform.

That's a little bit different than what source are you looking at? That's Yahoo.com. What we had, we had a source on this other day and it said they were partnering for distribution. Interesting. Truth, social. Maybe we're, maybe it was wrong. I remember reading what you were talking about tim yeah we were talking about a service agreement rumble is entered into a service agreement with trump's truth that's social this rsbn says rumble and trump's truth social media platform strike major distribution deal yeah so i i use rsbn

because they're very much in the trump you know side of things right Howard Lutnick the CEO of Rumbles parent company of canter Fitzgerald announced Monday a groundbreaking deal with Trump's new platform truth social but next state in an interview truth and the president are going to use Rumbles infrastructure technology their cloud distribution capability so they're going to be a service provider a tech provider to the president's truth social in the sense that AWS provides these kind of services to other companies as well. Yup. That is fascinating.

And that's what Dave was telling me, that Rumble's plan was, was to become AWS in that sense. Do you know how long it was from local selling to Rumble, to Rumble selling to, effectively selling to Cantor Fitzgerald? About 36 minutes. 36 days. Yeah. Which means Dave likely knew what was happening. And I suppose you can argue that it's all a good thing. And I'll tell you this, upon learning about the institutional

investor getting in, I have some worries. Because like we were just mentioning, now that they're public, yeah, the bad actors can find a way, they can buy their way in and keep buying their way in. And it doesn't matter if you have majority shares or not. People don't understand how this stuff works. There's things called hostile takeovers. But seeing this massive infrastructure now starting to emerge, I'm like, I'll take what I can get, man. If this is countering

the official Silicon Valley oligopoly, this is better than nothing. Maybe. I think of it as like if you're a farmer in Poland and then the Russians are coming from the east across your land.

Maybe they're going to destroy your farm. Maybe they're not. But now if another army springs up and they're like, we're going to counter and defeat the Russians. This is rumble. And they come from the west. Now you have the Germans and the Russians meeting at your farm. Everything gets annihilated. Yeah, but that's not necessarily true because what's going to happen here is they're both going to be colliding in the field, turning to you and say,

join us. Join us. Sign up for my platform. Sign up for my platform. You're going to be like, who's going to offer me the better deal? Ian, historically, Russia and Germany teamed up and invaded at the same time against Poland and my people. You're people of color. Damn right. Recognize.

But in this metaphor, the armies can get bought up by other armies. I see a lot of good here. I see a lot of good here with what's going on with Rumble and all this stuff. Because now there's institutional power in opposition to the oligopoly of woke leftism. It is a very veneer of power. It seems like power. It feels like power.

But in a moment, that switch can be flipped and it can be gone. And I think that's truly likely. It's beyond the company being sold. I think I'm not going to trust centralized media companies like social media companies. Truth Social and all these places have the right to ban you the same as every single other platform. People have pointed out the terms on Trump's website are not too dissimilar to other websites. The difference is, will the

ideology of truth social be beneficial to you versus Twitter's crackpot ideology? Yeah, for all of us here, we'd probably better off on truth social. However, they'll probably, I mean, they'll ban Antifa left and right, and probably right, and rightly so, because they're violent and they advocate for violence. But are they going to end up being biased in favor of the right i would not be surprised if that was the case will it be as bad as left no because the right tends to be in my opinion more principled to their own detriment we're going to see that again in that axios thing we're going to talk about it's creepy stuff though but but look look look i was really hard on you know rumble and locals and all that stuff yeah and that was because you know we didn't see the full uh

the full plan i'll put it this way when locals was uh first of all um i'm not a fan of patreon or any of these platforms locals included because they're centralized people should have their own platforms it should be decentralized network tech so they all can come together it's not hard to do and that's what we should be striving for in my opinion so that no one can be banned but if you're going to provide a service like you know know, Dave Rubin did, I've got no qualms about that. I just feel like it's not advancing us. Then when they sell to Rumble, I'm like, that seems like exploitation.

That seemed like rallying a bunch of contracts, selling off to a company. Then we see the SPAC deal where now it's basically going public. And I'm still not a fan of that. However, upon seeing this massive growing infrastructure, I'm happy to see it emerging because at least it's countering the other side. That doesn't mean it's a good thing. It doesn't mean people aren't going to be exploited. It doesn't mean bad actors won't eventually find their way in.

It just means I will take an alternative. A strong alternative with good infrastructure is a net positive. And it would be hypocritical of me to say it was a bad thing because I'm constantly saying, why aren't people doing this? Why aren't they challenging this and countering it? So that's great. However, I think the solution in the long run is decentralized social media. Yeah, there's incremental steps to take. There's long-term steps to make. With the liminal order, we're always constantly looking at different communications options. And one of the strategic challenges I'm faced with as

a business owner, as the leader of this network, over 800 guys now, is do we take a step that is like one step forward, two steps forward, or do we wait for that thing that's like going to be 20 steps forward? And the reason why at this point we have taken the time to, we're being very patient to not take two steps forward is because if you're familiar with the book, Who Moved My Cheese? This is a management book about like moving the cheese just ruins everything for everybody. Like if you change, to do that it better be for something that is an absolute slam dunk grand slam that is 20 steps into the into the future that's going to last five to ten years that's not just like an incremental baby step and perhaps it feels as though that locals in this rumble thing is like baby baby steps not the quantum leap that perhaps you guys are working on and so it's both of them are are

important though because there's new people entering into the market today they're going to want to take t plus two that aren't us sitting here at t waiting for t plus 10 rumble rumble should take the money they get from the spac and start subsidizing all of their creators. That way, people can say, well, I could be on YouTube, but Rumble pays comparably, so why don't I just go there? The challenge right now is it kind of does, but the views aren't there, which means Rumble's got to subsidize that and say, if you make a video on YouTube that pays 100 bucks, you make the same video on Rumble, you get paid the same amount. Incentivize people. Even with like a 10 tenth of the views right yeah or we'll pay you more just be like how about this

like they've already done it with several key people like you know siraj hashmi and glenn greenwald they need to do a lot more of that russell brand they got russell brand they signed him didn't he sign with locals i don't know with locals did i did i miss that i don't know if that is i don't know if that's rumble though well it is yeah no i'm saying it doesn't it doesn't mean that it doesn't mean that russell brand is putting his podcast on rumble he's on youtube right i see what you're saying let's uh let's get let's get partisan here because i oh boy this poll here is i'm gonna gloat from axios young democrats more likely to despise the other party. And so when people say like, you know, why does Tim talk about the Democrats so much? This exemplifies everything.

Mitch McConnell recently came out. He was talking about the midterms. The way that New York Mag put it is that Mitch McConnell is running on pure obstruction for 2022. Not that I trust their opinions on this, but that's on par for what the Republican establishment does. Nothing. They obstruct. I've been saying that since, what, 2017. I've been like, what am I going to complain about Republicans for? Yeah, they sit around doing nothing. Democrats are enacting policy that is detrimental to this country. They're failing to secure the border right now with Biden in power. They're trying to ban guns and Republicans do nothing. Now you see this. College, this is a poll we have from Axios, Generation Lab Axios polling. College students who would not, and then poll question,

someone who voted for the opposing presidential candidate. So basically, 71% of young Democrats would not date a Republican. 41% would not support a business of a Republican. 37% won't even be friends with a Republican. 30 won't work for one. Among Republicans, 31% won't date a Democrat. 7% won't support a Democrat business. 5% won't be friends with Democrats. And only 7% won't work for Democrats.

This is a problem. Now, look, I don't like division. I don't like people fighting. But if Republicans are willing to support the businesses of those who hate them, they will lose. Be friends with everybody. Work for, well, actually, and don't work for these companies. Go on a date with anybody.

Help change people's minds. I think we're conflating who owns the businesses here, not the college students. So the college students are the ones who are deciding that they won't work for a company or patronize a business that doesn't have their political views. But the people that own those businesses are slightly different than the college students. So I understand what you're saying, but this is a great example of the politics of hate, the politics of division that are being implemented on college campuses and bleated and drummed into your children on a daily basis to hate, to hate, to hate, to give no quarter to. There's no reason to be compromising with any of these people. There's no reason.

They're saying there's no reason to have any empathy, sympathy, no understanding, no reaching out across the aisle. If it feels like they hate you more than we hate them, it's 100% true by multiple factors. This cannot survive. And so this makes me optimistic. A movement built upon hating the other will not work. And the Democrats know it, which is likely why so many have retired, because they're sitting there saying, what am I going to campaign on? None of these people care. These younger Democrats care about any of these issues. They just hate Republicans. Well, I can't win over moderates who lean Republican if I'm campaigning on why they're awful. How much power does this constituency have? Is it enough to drive a political candidate's decision-making to say that college students won't do this, that, or the other, and that they have these predispositions? It's not about college students.

I mean, college students can range from, what, 18 to 24 on average, maybe a little bit older. The least vote-less MRFers of them all. It's like I was telling you before the show, I've mentioned this, that the person running against Lauren Boebert texts me because I had donated to some, I donated to more Democrats than I've ever done. I've done it to like four Democrats and like two Republicans in my time. And so I ended up getting all these messages from Democrats and they were like, help support me with my fundraiser. I'm running against Lauren Boebert. We have to stop her and the MAGA, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, what are you campaigning for? Why are you running for office? Do you want to fix the roads?

Do you want to get universal healthcare or something? No? You just hate Lauren Boebert? Stop texting me. She's following the same lead that all of the Democrats followed when it became to just hate Donald Trump, hate Donald Trump, hate Donald Trump.

Trump did that too. Like he made fun of Hillary, made fun of- And the Republican candidates following in his wake do the same things they utilize the same tactics so it's natural for people to uh glom on to and to adopt winning practices of people that come before them which is why I'm pretty optimistic actually on the future of the feminized society and a feminist movement is the opposite, is that you've got a whole generation looking ahead at all these women who have failed,

right? Who are in their late 30s, who have their careers, but have no families and are upset and disappointed. Maybe there's youth who are looking ahead at that signal and are saying, hey, I'm not going to live that life. So it's the same mechanism, the same channel, right? Trump did this. He called people names, He belittled people in some ways with the fake names and all that. And then that spawned an entire generation of people mimicking him towards his success. Joe Biden got elected without any real positions, without even campaigning because it was just like, we hate Donald Trump. And so of course, now there's going to be a bunch of politicians in his wake doing that. So this is like a monkey

see, monkey do kind of thing and uh you know it's not unexpected but i don't think that it has absolutely any legs whatsoever and i think one of the interesting parts about it was that like what was it 70 percent 70 percent of college democrats won't even date a republican 76 how many were polled like what was this poll every single one every college every single one all across time and it was perfect yeah forever yeah i wonder how many colleges were polled how many students if there's like a thousand students if this is a hundred thousand students because it's also it's also just a display of Democrats in college of power and of survivability right if you're a

Democrat or a Republican on campus most of the time you're going to be a minority so it's like am i going to eat am i going to date am i going to be a minority. So it's like, am I going to eat? Am I going to date? Am I going to be able to go to Subway? Well then yes, I'm going to support a business that's owned by somebody who disagrees with me politically. Whereas in the comfort of their college environment, the Democrat kids are very capable and able being like, no, I'm only going to patronize people that see the world my way. They haven't made it out into the real world where there's other people out there and other viewpoints and other things. And they haven't had a chance to be hungry

if they're going to adhere to that sort of principle. Yeah, this is an interesting peer into the mind of a college student. Tim, do you have numbers on this poll? How many people or where? No, we can try and pull it up though. But I'm trying to dig through that right now. It's funny that they don't put that info

at the top. They really should. The data. Here we go. There's a lot more stuff. Given the effects of COVID-19, how important is it for you to live in the town city where your job is? And then Axios polls what they think is important. People based on their income.

Let's see. Here we go. Here we go. Would you go out on a date with someone that voted for the opposing presidential candidate? Probably 32%. Probably not 32%. 18%. Definitely, definitely. And then I guess when you get into the actual,

oh, look at that, income levels. People who make more than $130,000 are 20% unlikely. They say they wouldn't date someone. But poor people are the most likely to definitely not date someone. Oh, that's weird. And then what do we have?

Probably not, definitely not. Political ID. And then here you go. Here's this data. What is this? Wait, 7% definitely. Would you want to date with someone that voted for the opposing presidential candidate? Oh, okay.

7% said definitely, meaning they would. Right. And definitely not is 30. Right. And definitely not is 30. And probably not is 41%. So I think that's where they're getting the 71% from. So there you go. That's actually important to break down too because probably not is not no. Not the same.

The way Axios framed it. So breaking down the data is important. What's Axios' lean? They're left. They're like center, center left. Yeah. They're pretty good 71 percent uh what does it say would not someone who voted for the opposing presidential candidate so that's actually uh misleading fairly misleading absolutely what do you know probably not and so they've missed they've misled us on their own data in order to make a point that

they stand behind and believe is important to push out to the universe, which is hate, hate, hate, hate, hate. Everybody hates. We all hate. You want to hate with us? But to be fair, we break it down. It is still leaning in Democrats. So look, Republicans are still only probably not 24% and definitely not 7%, meaning Republicans are still more tolerant of the opposing political views than Democrats are. So that's an important takeaway from here. And my view of it is just basically when people are like, why, Tim, do you claim to be lefty but hate the Democrats? And it's like, what do the Democrats have to do with the left?

And then when the leftists like the, you know, Hassan and people like him and Vosh are like, Tim's far right. I'm like, the only thing we disagree on is reality. Like, I can tell you definitively, like when we had Vosh here, or no, no, you know, Hunter Avalon was here.

Yeah. And he actually, I would have let this go because I'm, you know, sometimes I'll let people, you know, I'll let people have their opinions. But when we were talking about,

it's true. When we were talking about Burisma and Victor Shokin and Lachevsky and stuff, he actually told me I was wrong and then pushed back on me. And then I was like, do you have any idea what you're talking about? And then I went off. I'm like, bro, I did so much research on the Hunter Biden Burisma stuff and then followed up Matt Taibbi's reporting. I started reading through what he was reporting on.

I have dug through that. And I talked to these people. They don't know. They don't believe it. And that's the problem. You can be on the left. You can believe in whatever economic policies you want. But if you don't know what reality is because you don't do research, then I'm sorry, we disagree on fundamental reality. And a really

good example of this is David Pakman. David Pakman and I probably agree on a whole lot of things because I've known the guy for a really long time. The problem is David Pakman isn't a journalist. I'm not saying that disparagingly, he just doesn't do research. He literally doesn't. He had a segment where he was mocking Ted Cruz for saying that Ukraine meddled in the 2016 election to help the Clintons, which was reported by Politico and the New York Times reported that Ukrainian court even said as such. That isn't to say that Ukraine as a government was secretly trying to overthrow the US or

anything like that. But that's special interest in Ukraine. We're doing this. David Pakman puts out a video where he mocks Ted Cruz for being correct. And I'm like, bro, if you didn't even bother to Google this, we have a fundamental problem. We can agree on policy positions. We probably agree on a lot, but don't call me right wing because I believe in the truth and you didn't Google it. That's the state of politics. I think that's a pretty good indicator. It's like, are you willing to do the work?

If you do the work and you really do the research and you read and you're open-minded to things that may not resonate immediately with you, it's a sign, it must correlate with being right-wing in this new environment. That's it. Right, instead of just taking things that make you feel good,

or actually in this case, make you feel bad, right? These people are reacting to being told things that make you feel good or actually, in this case, make you feel bad. Right? These people are reacting to being told things that make them feel bad and then they stop there. There was a story. There was a car accident. And one of the guys in the accident is walking to his car where he has his gun on his dashboard. It's a young black man. And the cop, who's also black, says, just leave your stuff there.

Just leave your stuff there, man. And the guy says something like, I got to grab my stuff. And then he grabs with a gun and the cop shoots him, fires twice. One bullet hits the guy in the leg. He's 20 years old. And the cop's like, why did you reach for the gun, man? Why did you reach for the gun? And so I tweeted, if you are not a suspect in a crime and you want to pick up your gun,

a cop should not be able to use lethal force against you. It's a constitutional right to keep and bear arms. And what did the lefties on Twitter say? They said, how come Tim doesn't defend black people when they're attacked by police? Oh, surprise, surprise. This story he's defending them. I'm like, they don't care. They don't care about what's true. They didn't bother to read the story. They just want to believe some preconceived zombie NPC narrative. And I'm like, yo, we agree. I think it was wrong. The cop shot the young black man because he was trying to pick up his gun.

He's allowed to have a gun. And the right said that was a good shoot because he was wanted on drug and gun charges. And I'm like, nonviolent crime. He was legally allowed to own a weapon. And you think he should like he can't have a weapon because he's one. I'm sorry, dude. And they were like, he was wanted by the ATF. And I'm like, yo, when I tweet abolish the ATF, you guys retweet

it. Now you're going to sit here and say a guy who was in a car accident was trying to pick up his gun. It should get shot because you shouldn't have done that. Sorry, dude. You have a right to keep and bear arms. A cop shouldn't be like, oh no, a guy's keeping and bearing arms and then shooting you. But the left, instead of agreeing with me, argues with me. A really great example is Hassan talking about the Ahmed Arbery case and we're tweeting at each other. And I'm just like, it's really weird that you and I agree on this, but you're turning it into an argument. This poll, I think, exemplifies a lot of what that is. Pure hatred. That's it. I'm old enough to remember when Tim Pool wasn't a Donald Trump supporter. Right. And I've never been a gung ho zealot for the man.

No, definitely not. And even to this day, we've mentioned now, I think, like a couple dozen times that he's been implicated in the Lolita Express because I don't care if it's Trump, if it's Clinton. I don't care who it is. If they're flying on a plane, give me the evidence and we'll talk about it. The problem we have today is the modern left, the Democratic establishment and all the people who vote for Biden have no idea what's really happening in the world. And it's thanks to the likes of CNN and MSNBC and these other fake news outlets. Who are imploding. They're imploding. CNN and MSNBC are imploding. Is that not a sign? Is that a signal that something positive is happening. If CNN and MSNBC are imploding and that genre of peddling of that information may not be actually working out.

But YouTube still puts them on the front page. And they got rid of the dislike button because all of the news segments were disliked to a belief. And a lot of people say that YouTube got rid of the dislike counter because of Joe Biden. I think it's because of mainstream media. I think it's because when you go on the front page, you see CNN, ABC, NBC, thumbs down 80% on every video because people are like, they're lying, dude. So do those videos from the mainstream,

do they get more views to generate more YouTube revenue? Oh, yeah. CNN got 100 million views last month. Okay. That's five times what we got on this show. Okay, so it's financially motivated. And I can respect that, actually. Well, look, if YouTube got rid of CNN, if YouTube promoted

real news and real commentary and authenticity, they'd probably make more money. But they don't care. YouTube's subsidized by Alphabet anyway, so what do they care? They want to prop up the narrative from the establishment media. Safer for advertisers, I guess that's what they're thinking. Or it's just they want the narrative to persist. So they give freebies to CNN, and CNN is getting the views.

It's true. Because regular people go on YouTube, and they see it, and they click it. And that's it. And that's reality for them now. And it's really frustrating, man, especially with the holidays. Because I tell you what it's like. I'm's really frustrating, man, especially with the holidays, because I tell you what it's like. You know, I'm going to go spend time with some people on Christmas.

And I am assured there's going to be a bunch of people who have no idea what they're talking about, but are arrogant as all hell. And that'll be interesting. But I don't know. I don't know. I don't, you know, I don't want to prejudge people. And my attitude is like, look, if someone says something incorrect to me, I'm not going to yell at him or argue with him. If someone says like Biden didn't have a quid pro quo with, you know, with in Ukraine with Zlochevsky or I'm sorry, it wasn't not Zlochevsky.

That's a Burisma guy with the president of Ukraine. I'm forgetting his name. I'll have to make sure I double check that stuff. I'll just be like very simply like there were 12 open investigations that Victor Shokin had into Burisma. My call Zlochevsky fled the country when he was under investigation, had his bank account frozen. As soon as Joe Biden does that quid pro quo, saying I want a billion dollars, what happens is the dude comes back.

This isn't the holidays you're talking about. You're planning your retorts to people disputing the facts that you know to be true. I am not doing that at all. I'm not doing that at all. I'm making a point about how I will respond in these scenarios that people often like to talk about where people get in political arguments.

I would suggest that perhaps at Christmas it might be best just to respond with like, oh, wow, and then move on to something else. I disagree, Jack. I think we need honesty.

We need real conversations. We need to level with people. And I think a little bit of argument, a little bit of fighting is okay. It's good. And we shouldn't shy away from it and act fake and pretentious and like somebody that we're not. Fake and pretentious? Well, I say that's usually where it starts. It starts off with just placating people and saying, oh, ha, ha, yes, okay, yeah.

And then not really truly expressing yourself. And then later down the line, that's going to create a conflict where obviously you're going to clash on your different kind of ideas what this is a problem what we have stopped talking about politics yes i i agree but but this is like is like a heavyweight fighter going into an amateur's house much like it would be if you and i had a boxing match i don't know about that i want to make sure this is clear. There is the trope about during the holidays, people bring up politics. Because of CNN, my complaint is that the media has lied to people

and now I can assume should these tropes prove true, people are going to say a bunch of really dumb things and I'm not going to argue with them. I'm simply just going to be like oh yeah, with Burisma it was Victor Shokin was the prosecutor, right? You knew that and Zolchevsky who founded Burisma was wanted on a bunch of corruption charges, fled the country. The EU froze his stuff.

Joe Biden comes in. All of a sudden, the charges get dismissed by the new prosecutor. Biden got a new prosecutor in, and then the charges get dropped. You have to say that exact way, that exact tone, right when we're doing it. And I'm serious. And you've got to stand up before you say it. And I'll slam the table. No, but I'll just be like, right when we're doing it. And I'm serious. And you've got to stand up before you say it. And I'll slam the table. No, but I'll just be like, look, I don't know.

I'm not going to argue about it. No, being a journalist and going to Christmas is like bringing a knife to a fight where the other kid's bringing a stick. It's just like, you know. What kind of stick? You could kill somebody with a stick. It is a good point. I had a special forces guy teach me how you could just take someone out with the stick. It's just like... What kind of stick? You could kill somebody with a stick. I had a special forces guy teach me how you could just take someone out with the stick. With a pen.

Jack, how you're saying it when you discuss politics with your friends and family that you don't talk about what other people, what you heard from other people. It's more important that you are fully fleshed out with what you know and what you've researched if you're going to talk about it at all. Because a lot of people are going to be referencing CNN and just repeating it.

So don't be the guy that references the stuff on the other side to try and counter that. It's not going to work. I would even go on the opposite spectrum and say it's your duty to inform people when they're misinformed, when they're being lied to, when they're being led down a path that's going to end them up hurt by the establishment. I agree with that. But bit by bit in a way that it's digestible,

processable, and doesn't alienate you from the situation because the relationship in this case is more important so that you can give that slow inoculation over time, that vaccine and the booster and the booster and the booster

to finally where they have the immunity. Yeah, don't be a douche about it. You don't ever raise your voice and you make sure you're always talking facts. Because the problem is when you're like an economy that's distributing this percentage of stupid, it's like, well, you're in opinion territory. If someone says, I think the society would be better if we tax the rich at 80%, I'd be like, well, there's a thought.

You know what I mean? I don't know. How do you quantify whether it'd be better or worse? It's just an opinion. You're allowed to have one. Facts are the issue. So I was hanging out with a friend at a friend's house in LA, lefty liberal type, you know, they're not super political, but like these, they have these, their leanings in Los

Angeles and their friends are talking about politics. And I, and I'm talking along with them. And then all of a sudden it turns into them sitting there listening to me talk where I'm like, well, look what you guys got wrong about the Russiagate thing was, you know, Comey, you know, so Sally Yates, you know, she is okay. Right. So she's, she's in a room with Comey and she writes this email explaining this stuff. And they're like, oh, wow, I didn't know any of that stuff. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, look, I don't, you can think it's wrong. You can think Trump is nasty. I think he's got bad opinions of women. I don't think he's a nice, well, actually I think he's a really generous guy, but he can be really mean, you know? And I'm like, those are just opinions on him.

You're allowed to have those. But facts are important. Indeed. Let's go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, smash that like button. Get your Super Chats in. It gets Christmassy around here every so often, too. And argue.

And let's see what we got here in the old Super Chat department. All right. Some guy says Smollett should be tried for perjury. That's a good super chat because around that time was when I was reading CNN said the prosecutor literally accused Smollett of perjury in his closing arguments. Prosecutor, will you charge the man? You know, I almost don't even want to say that as much as I don't like Jesse Smollett, because I think it's very obvious. He staged this. I'm, I'm really, really mad about like what's been going on with the lockdowns around the

world. And at this point I'm just like, yo, the system is busted. It's bad. They're not, they didn't arrest Hillary 30,000 emails. Come on.

Like, are we going to see any accountability? Nope. Never. If you're in the club, you don't got to worry about anything. Moral of the story, be in the club. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Guys, come on. Those are fighting words. You guys, you guys, come on. Here's a tough one. Cheeseburger says, Tim, I'm in New Zealand. We are being governed by a tyrant. We are trying to resist, but many are asleep here. We aren't all pathetic.

What can we do well i'll tell you this the biggest mistake alex jones makes i will tell you exactly when i was like this guy is here's a challenge so i'm watching i think it was c-span or something 15 years ago or something i don't know it was a long time ago and then some reporter i don't know i don't maybe it wasn't c-span are like oh look we've got alex jones here and they're like you know alex what's going on and he walks up and he goes right into the don't know, maybe it wasn't C-SPAN, they're like, oh, look, we've got Alex Jones here. And they're like, you know, Alex, what's going on? And he walks up, and he goes right into the camera, and right up to it and goes, people, you've got to listen to what they're doing here. It's crazy.

And I was like, ah! And I was like, yo, I can't show it to my family. Loose change. And I remember how viral that video went. Oh, yeah. The music. And then everybody was burning CDs. you've got to be persuasive and you've got to have that tenacity that viral moment you've got to inspire people and share information

but you don't get up in front of the camera screaming and yelling you don't stand in a street corner waving a sign saying the end is nigh here's what you do put a nice button-up shirt put your mask on because you're in new zealand right get some khakis and smile and wave wave to people and say hey how's it going and be like hi i just want to have a conversation with you and that's how you win hearts and minds i'm saying you say you say hi claire how are you because this is what i used to tell the occupy people hey you realize that throwing a brick through a starbucks window makes the people at starbucks who work there who make minimum wage hate you yes because they got to clean it up and they don't understand what you're talking about but if you stood outside with a smile on your face and shook their hand and said this company is not a good company like let me help you find a job to work

somewhere else they'll make you more money be better for you here's this here's a non-profit they're hiring people might be like oh hey man more money better job i'll do it so you got to be peaceful persuasive resourceful i know new zealand's in a rough spot i don't know enough about what's going on there to to say do you do you think that the baristas that work for starbucks believe starbucks is a good company i would guess that the people that work for starbucks hate it and they hate them and they hate the corporate and they're lefty liberals and they hate everything about it. I disagree. I think they don't know

where to go. I think they're like, I don't know, I work at Starbucks. I heard Starbucks pays well. Yeah, but they're all English majors. But also,

they're probably, a decent amount of them are like, Starbucks is awesome. I love getting the mocha frap. I know a ton of young people who are like, oh, let's go to Starbucks.

I love Starbucks. Come on. It's disgusting. Some people hard at starbucks and love their jobs yeah especially the managers i mean look if you're the a if you're the am barista at a rush hour starbucks you know all of your customers you see them when you walk in you give them good service you're fast and on the ball and you make good tips i mean yeah man i definitely have respect for that lady i remember the ethiopian lady at the one by my old house man she killed it and then the brick comes flying through your window because some english major is angry about capitalism and you're like i can't work tomorrow because the window's been busted out we got to get a window repair company to come and

board it up so i'm gonna lose wages right or how about they're like now i gotta go clean up the bathroom that we opened up to every homeless person in the city. Yeah. That's right. That's gross. Memento Mori says, Tim, in one of your videos this morning, you mentioned serial killers making their way into politics.

Ever look into the ones we know of? Several. Yeah. So what I was saying is that serial killers exist. If they were smart enough, they would just get in politics to then have the ability to do whatever you know start command the military start launching drone strikes that's right yeah for all we know

obama was like you know kicking squirrels when he was a kid or something and he gets older and he's like oh when i'm older i'm gonna be president so i can uh kill children and then he's the one officially called off on the assassinations of people yeah i'm imagining like a guy walking in with like they came they called them like baseball cards that it was called the disposition matrix oh yeah and they would bring these these these like placards with like information to obama and then he would select from them and sign off like yes uh kill him and uh and kill him as well kill him first And then after you kill these two guys, kill this guy. I wonder if they had plans like that.

And then there was Abdurahman Al-Awlaki where he was like, yeah, kill this 16-year-old kid. Oops, we thought it was an Al-Qaeda guy. He should have had a better father. What do they do at that point? Do they put him on the wall? Official statement from the administration. Kill everything around that guy when they're like officially not going to kill him, but they accidentally drop a bomb. You think they target it that way? Target right next to the guy

on the wall? I don't know. Alright. Il Machiner says, Il Machiner says, these altar people are just preparing their avatars for the metaverse. Oh yeah. Someone mentioned it. They're called Tulpas or something. That's what someone said in the Super Chat. We'll get to that in a second.

Alright. Let's see. The Bels Super Chat. We'll get to that in a second. All right, let's see. The Bell Schnickle says, I want to hear more from the Brent Mason Signature Tele. That is correct. There's a Brent Mason Signature Telecaster behind me. It's awesome. It's got a B-bender. That thing's so cool.

I don't have the right strap for the B-bender, though. That's where you can, like, pull the neck down, and it pulls the B-string. It's cool. It sounds fantastic. Watching that guy, Brett Mason shred, dude. That guy is an amazing guitarist. All right, let's see what you got.

Nevermore says the mind companion you mentioned is what is called a tulpa. It's an interesting phenomenon. I suggest looking into it. Ian, you would probably find it very interesting. Yeah, I wonder if that's there. This seems like this other, you know, people create either an imaginary friend or god or whatever it is but it does seem like there might be some sort of other essence i i think people have just um i think they're going insane i think it's like an induced social insanity where people go on these platforms you look at tumblr and they

say like neurodivergent they make things up and it's a social contagion. That, you know, humans, there's a funny meme right now. It said humans, it's going viral. Humans aren't supposed to work in December. Our humans didn't evolve to work in December. We're supposed to hide and cower in fear from predators while we hope that our autumn harvest lasts us through the winter. And it's like, haha, funny. I get it.

Like our bodies weren't built for this. We weren't built for this level of communications technology. You know, you'd be in a small group of 30 to 40 people and your ideas would be, for the most part, slow moving. But now with the internet, people can find anything. And now you've got people doing these, this video of the woman running in the rain, squawking and chirping like Gollum.

It's like, it's crazy stuff. Like I don't I don't mean like like like cognitively. I mean, it's like shockingly absurd because these people aren't actually experiencing any kind of phenomenon. It's like they're play acting like they're inducing this within themselves. This year says a tulpa is a concept in theosophy, mysticism in the paranormal of an object or being that is created through spiritual or mental powers. This is from the Wikipedia. This sounds like this Golden Compass series. Have you heard of this?

With the daemons? That's right. Yeah. It sounds like people just LARPing with this in the same way people wear stormtrooper helmets. Talking about condensing the spirit, bringing the spirit of the dead back to fruition. Let's do this. Let's pull up a bunch of these videos for the member segment. We'll go through it.

The Auschwitz ones from TikTok. We have to watch it. And what you were describing, I think it's called social psychosis. I think that's the way some people have been describing it. I once read this story, this old legend, about how in medieval Europe, there was a bridge where people all were just were seen dancing like crazy non-stop and anybody who tried to cross the bridge would immediately start dancing and people were dancing to death yeah they wouldn't drink or eat and then

they would just like die I've heard about the dancing plague is this the dancing plague it was a it was ergot a bunch of people got started taking ergot didn't realize it and start tripping and dancing let's. And let's talk about all that in the member segment. Let's make sure we get enough super chats and we don't go, you know, too off the rails. All right. Christopher Robbins says conservatives are more susceptible to disgust. It is the most defining characteristic of conservative people. I don't know if it's the most defining characteristic, but you are correct.

Jonathan Knight's research shows that, know purity is a is a moral foundation for conservatives but not liberals or libertarians so i think the funny thing is in that research libertarians don't care about anything but liberty that's it they're like i don't care what you do freedom like the have you ever jack have you ever taken the moral foundations test what is it like from idr labs or whatever i have not there's some nasty questions in there. They're wild. About like incest and stuff. Yikes. And the funny thing is libertarians are like, totally fine by me.

You do your thing and leave me alone. Conservatives are like, eh, kind of crosses the line, you know? There was a point in time in my life where I understood the libertarian perspective to say that your individual choices had no societal impact and therefore you should be able to have your own independent choices, but it's absolutely not true. Your independent individual choices have a societal impact. And if you're going to use the analogy of like your liberty expense extends to the tip of my nose, if you can acknowledge the way that your individual choices,

your individual sexual choices, individual things that you do in your relationships, the things that you, how you decide to procreate, et cetera, these things have actual impact on society. Therefore, there is sort of an inherent moral structure around arranging your sexual relations and your procreative relations in a way that doesn't have an impact on society, even if you believe in liberty, because in that regard, you have to do it in order to honor other people's liberty. And I'll admit that this is an evolved position that I'm coming to, whereas 10 years ago, let's say, I would have slammed on the table and been like, do whatever you want. That's your right, and we should protect that. But now I'm beginning to understand the way that your individual actions, even in seemingly the absence of impact on others, has an aggregated impact on society and is therefore important to consider.

I agree. I still lean very much towards liberty, but I think it's extremely naive to think that we could all just move further and further towards people doing literally anything. Yeah. I think a simple way to explain it is like you have a braid and you're unwinding it. You know what I mean? Yeah. In one sense, you have a very tightly knit braid where it's rigid and it's hard to move. And that can suppress people and that can cause chaos.

It can lead to people revolting. It can lead to tensions. And so there needs to be a certain balance of exploration, progress, and freedom, but there still needs to be a sort of tether. And the way we explained it before is that the conservatives would typically have like a rope on the progressives slowing them down from going off the rails.

But in recent time, that rope has snapped. Conservatives and Republicans are kind of sitting where they are, and the left has just ran off. It's like the dog's gotten away, and we don't know where it's gone. There's no. Yeah. There's no restraint whatsoever. And in fact, any effort to restrain is leading to further explosion of this chaotic behavior.

And I saw a graphic the other day that just showed, it's like a guy standing here and the left is here. A guy standing here and then the left is here. A guy standing here and the left is over here. And then the middle just moves all the way over this way. That's what I've been seeing. It's insane. Yeah.

Like when it comes to the issue of abortion, if you were to put on a scale of like negative 100 is the left and positive 100 is the right. And then conservatives are like, because they believe in some exceptions and some, you know, like, you know, incest, rape exceptions, depending on who you talk to. They're going to be, you know, somewhere in the right spectrum. And moderates are going to be close to the middle. But the left is all the way at negative 100. They're cheering and celebrating it.

So it's like become completely unrecognizable for me and how I grew up. That trend is not going to slow. Yeah. Which is good. We've reached the point of absurdity. We'll add that to the member segment because there's some stuff that I'll say

that's pretty dark, but we'll save it for that and I'll read some more super chats. Do it. We got Paul Thonkam. Do it. Warner Media and Discovery merger is under antitrust investigation, and Discovery CEO wants to make changes to CNN. The antitrust investigation is possibly to protect CNN. Jack was right. I don't know that it's to protect CNN. I do think that it's worth additional scrutiny on every industrial concentration that's taking place. And in fact, it's very clear that the last 20 or 30 years with the fusion of the neoliberals into the uniparty Democrats and Republicans, that they both had their eye off the ball when it comes to antitrust and we're experiencing the ramifications today of concentration and industries from meat packing to freaking uh like cheerleading coaching services and everything else in between because

nobody has been putting a check on the corporations and that's why you're seeing a big resurgence in people even on the right teddy roosevelt style saying hey it's time to reign these corporations in i recommend everybody read matt stoller's book, Goliath. He'll probably hate me for recommending him again. Democrat that was on my show once, and it was like a big to-do that this Democrat came on my show, and he felt risky about it. But that's a guy that people should be listening to because he understands the power of this corporate concentration. I was going to say you sounded like a Democrat there a little bit, especially with all the arguments you were exposing there. I would just disagree a little bit, especially with all the arguments you were exposing there. I would just disagree with the antitrust.

Well, specifically, there's a lot of different issues and we can't just. Are you going to argue for concentrate industrial concentration? I'm going to argue that right now what we're going through is is not capitalism. It's socialism for the super rich. The corporate has joined the state into one unison body that is pushing degeneracy. And if we're not careful, the same institutions that are pushing you to be conservative with your body, they could be pushing you to be liberal with your body. And when we look at state-run government institutions, indoctrination centers, or as some people call them, school centers, I think they're responsible

for pushing this degeneracy. And if they could push this degeneracy, the reason they could do that is an excuse because they were previously able to push conservatism. I think you need to let people learn on their own, develop on their own, and to make their own mistakes. Because at the end of the day, I think people know that the right thing for them is something that they need to come to in terms with themselves. So you agree with me? I don't think they're called school centers, Luke. I don't think anyone calls them that. Indoctrination centers.

They're just called schools. But I would call them institutionalized learning facilities. All right. Woot Do For You says, I was saved by the Joe Rogan treatment. I went from coughing blood to feeling like I had a mild cold in a day. Oh, crap. I'm still down, unable to work, but alive. As a T1 diabetic with scarred lungs, I'm thankful.

You want to hear a funny story so uh nice segue i get i get i get sick right and i'm you know and i and this you know everybody knows i called joe and i'm like what did you do because i heard you talk about in the video everybody saw it and then he talked to me and he was like you got to you know take it seriously don't just accept the hospital saying do nothing like find somebody and talk to them and see what's up and the funny thing is joe then tweets this video where it's a sketch where a guy is like choking and then he's like the woman goes oh no you're choking quick i have an epi pen and he goes like wait what's in it it's like i don't it's an epi pen epinephrine and he was like how do i know it's safe and she's like i need to administer this and he goes call joean Joe was criticizing it but I thought it was really funny and I showed Allison and she was like didn't

you just call Joe Rogan I was like I did you did and it saved you and cured your eyes your eyes still better now too uh yeah um but it faded so that's the NAD plus I got And the day after I got the nicotinamide, was it nicotinamide? Adenine dinucleotide. Adenine dinucleotide. Nice pull. Yeah. After I got that,

my vision was like HD, crystal clear, perfect in every way. It was crazy. Like granted, I'm still nearsighted. I wear contacts. But when I put my contacts in, it was all of a sudden just indescribable. It was like the first time I'd ever worn glasses

when I was like 13 years old. I remember that moment. Dana White also took NAD+. We took it as well, and I saw a noticeable difference, even in my health app, even in my data tracker. Really? Has that faded over time, or was it? It's still a lot better than it was before. But this was going after COVID.

So within a few days, I could see it sort of, you know, than it was before but yeah but this was after after going after covet right so so uh maybe within like over over so within a few days i could see it sort of you know fading the the crazy like hd vision feeling and then but it persisted uh and then we uh i ended up getting nad again recently and so all of a sudden like you know it's i i i'm not necessarily a proponent for like consistently doing stuff like that. I usually try to just not burn yourself out and destroy yourself. I don't know. I'm not a fan of supplements for the most part.

Yeah, I don't do what they say on the bottle every time. I try to do less. Right, right, right. I do less. I do less. So when it comes to vitamins, it'll be like take two per day. I'll take one. Yeah, because I'm like, I don't want to do that. I don't want to become addicted to that stuff.

But like protein and stuff like that is fine. I just mean like getting NAD plus feels like, I don't know, I'd be worried your body would stop producing it naturally like it does with a lot of other supplements, like a lot of other things. You could do like testosterone. Gotcha. But I don't know.

That stuff's amazing. David Sinclair's work out of Harvard for all his work on NMN and nicotinamide, adenine, dinucleotide, NAD plus. There's some people we know that don't know. That stuff's amazing. David Sinclair's work out of Harvard for all his work on NMN and nicotinamide, adenine, dinucleotide, NAD+. There's some people we know that don't like it and didn't report having a positive experience from it. So that's also the case too. I got it recently, and I finished the whole treatment in 30 minutes. You were showing off.

Yeah. I was like, you got this one. Crank him up because it hurts. The IV Luke was like, I'm not. I'm like, you got this one. Crank him up to eight because it hurts. The IV hurts. It's not an IV. It's like you can feel it coursing through your veins in your life. It's horrifying. It's like an anxiety attack.

You feel your heart beating very hard, and it feels like you're under a tremendous amount of pressure. It feels like you're also underwater a significant amount, and it's like your head's going off. It's like your head's feeling bloated. And then it subsides, and you feel good. As soon as the drip is done, it's like your head's going off it's like your head's feeling and then it subsides and you feel good as soon as the drip is done it's instantly gone the feeling is gone wow so they give you a painkiller and an anti-nausea and then so i was like so we we we i went and got it on monday and i was like i don't got time to sit here all day because the first time i did it took five hours because i was in i was sick i was in bad shape and it was too much i couldn't handle it second time took two and a half hours. And I was like, I want it done. I heard Joe Rogan did it in 20 minutes. So let's just get it done. And they're like, you got it. And then they turned

it on. I went, Oh man. And like, I was like, Whoa. And, and then, but, but like eventually you get used to it. And it's like, I would just, it's a, it feels like an anxiety attack. And I would kind of describe it as like, how long can you hold two buckets in your arms? You know what I mean? It's like, it gets uncomfortable, but you just grin and bear it. And you do it as long as you can. Cause you know, you can handle it. I'm sitting next to Tim.

I'm like, I don't mind waiting. I'll wait a little bit longer. You can take a time. I'll take a nap. I was so excited. I felt so fantastic to just like, you know, let's read some more. We got one that's important. It's from Todd Gibson.

He says, how do I become a member? I tried on YouTube, but isn't the type of membership I was trying to get. You mentioned the dot com membership was different. So the dot com is the membership that will allow the off YouTube show. Yes. Timcast.com is a website with a ton of articles and news. It's got a bunch of different shows. We've got Tales from the Inverted World. We have a plethora of content for you as a member. So you'll get the conspiracy show with Shane Cashman talking with other people in the house about mysteries and conspiracies. You'll get Cass Castle Green Room behind the scenes. We had a couple, I think, with Alex Jones. And then you'll get all of the TimCast IRL members shows. So that's at TimCast.com. It's not on YouTube. All right.

Kefka says, I heard a rumor of Tesla making a cell phone. The rumor there would be more privacy built and harder for companies, apps to gather your data. That would be fantastic. I would very much like that.

But I think, and encryption, so signal's good. Signal is great. You saw what Elon Musk recently said? Which one? He said the US government

is a major corporation and that they have a monopoly on violence. That's right. Signal is great. You saw what Elon Musk recently said? Which one? He said the U.S. government is a major corporation and that they have a monopoly on violence. That's right. Crazy, insane statement. He is not wrong. Yep. Reading Rothbard. Did you know that the word terrorism comes from the Jacobins?

No. I didn't even know. It's surprising. I feel like I should have known that. How so? So it was the period of the reign of terror or whatever in France. So they call that terrorism. It was like the reign of terror where they're taking people and using violence against them to get their yeah the great terror they they intentionally created it they were like

we're gonna do a thing called the great terror where we terrorize people for our so we can be a great political body to force them to believe what we want them to believe. Yeah. Jeez. And they felt justified because the Rousseauian position is that the, the good is whatever the majority wants. I'll tell you, they were suppressed by a King. You suppress people long enough and hard enough and they go freaking crazy. Indeed, but they don't have to develop an entire political philosophy that says that

whatever 51% of the people decide is the actual political good that should be enforced. That's a problem. Also, side note, I'm getting blown up with DMs and messages from people who worked at Starbucks who said Starbucks provides paid time off, stock options, excellent training, good healthcare, upward mobility,

take care of school, take care of your kids and your early borns. I told you they take care of their employees. They really do. They really do. So keep throwing bricks through the windows, dummies. Right. It's like they're like, why aren't companies giving paid time off?

Starbucks. And then the employees are like, they give us paid time off. Well, why aren't they helping with your kids? And we get that too. Yeah, well, you can't go anywhere. You're stuck in this dead end job. And everyone's like, no, actually, I'm getting promoted tomorrow. And they're just like, oh, I want to throw a brick.

So you get out of the way. Exactly. All right. Let's see where we're at. Miniaturized Strange Quark says, Tim, can we buy a cast signed shirt from you or the best political shirts? I have an idea. We'll take one of our shirts. We have the Howard Springs shirts.

And we will get everyone to sign it. And then we'll get one of Luke's shirts. And then we'll do an auction on the website for people to to buy a couple of we'll do a handful of them that sounds good yeah and you know we can do we can actually put all of those proceeds into uh on foundation and truth and media oh cool and uh we are changing and we are changing well yeah we've got we've got two non-profits um they're We have to wait until the new year for tax deductible, tax status, and all that stuff. But we'll do more. I think we're going to do more auctions like this for merch and schwag so that we can put more funding into the nonprofits.

That'll be great. What does it say? Norm Iron John or Nom Iron? I don't know. R as in N's. It says, Tim, as far as Trump, the flight logs show two flights he was on, one from New York to Miami and one going the other way. Well, if that's the case, then great.

Is that the case, Luke? I had read that as well. I was going to mention that earlier. I didn't have a source for that. Also, it's notable that he banned him from Mar-a-Lago a long time ago as well, too. But there's a lot of photos and videos of them partying. He was considered his wingman, and they have a lot of time together. And Donald Trump's quote about Epstein, saying that he's a great guy and he loves women on the younger side, just like I do.

I mean, I forgot the exact quote. People have to look it up themselves. So, again, we don't know. I'm not going to jump to conclusions. I'm not going to, of course, just automatically make up my own mind here there's a lot of conflicting information about this particular case but but regardless trump should explain it trump should provide evidence and proof and speak out about this case and be willing to tell the american people exactly what happened here he hasn't done that yet trump should not have said i wish her

well yeah to maxwell mean, that was weird. You know what I mean? But I'm not going to. I'll put it this way. I don't care if it's Trump. I don't care if it's not Trump. I don't care who it is. We got the evidence.

We got the logs. Let's get the evidence out there. Trump's also the same guy. I'd be like, you know, the dictator in North Korea. He's a good guy. He's a nice, strong leader. He does a good job. He's got his country on lock.

I like talking to him. He's a good partner. This is the quote from 2002 from Trump. I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. What else did it say? Jeff Epstein, international money man of mystery. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do

and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it. Jeffrey enjoys his social life. Wow. All right. We got this from Ben Boucher. He says, Ben Boucher, you've been misinformed on felonies and traveling and voting i have multiple felonies all non-violent in california and colorado i can vote and have traveled the world asia central america and europe um well then i stand corrected i believe there are certain certain countries though that put

restrictions on you it makes it harder for you to travel if you have a felony all right richard knight says kudos to lydia for quoting c.s lewis yeah the world could certainly use more exposure to him love him i just finished mere christianity and i bought my daughter the chronicles of narnia and she is reading those before bed every night read it tim read it i saw your response which one the one that you you had you reacted to just how do you know which one i was reacting to i i didn't i don't i don't but i saw your reaction alex r says joe rogan's treatment should be called the joe rogan experience i'm gonna call it that i'm gonna say well you know look i was really sick and then i

uh i received the joe roan experience. I got better within like I think it was like 10 hours. Three hours. That injection did you right. That's right. That's right. Let's see. Kyle Lewis says cherish your 2A. Just look north to where you're headed. Canada is lost.

Hopefully the US holds better. Can't believe what my country has become. You can always go up to the Yukon territories, right? That's a thing. And subsist off tundra, can't you? Am I right to understand that as an unvaccinated person, I will never be able to fly or train into Canada ever again? Am I right to understand I'll never be able to go to Israel, for example, ever again?

I'll never be able to go to the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York City ever again. You could go to Mexico, though. Mexico is very fun. I like Mexico. Mexico is fun. Luke does love Mexico, too. I do like a little Tulum. Man, I feel lucky that I got to travel the world when I did because of what's happening now.

Lived in New York City. And when they started locking everything down my first thought was like I don't care yeah like I've been to like 30 plus countries I've lost count yeah and you know traveling around so for me I'm kind of like yeah I've been there done that but I also realize that means a lot of people will never get that that ability to experience the world yeah yeah and it's funny I posted the other day on Twitter I was like yeah I'm legitimately bummed that I can't go back to the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York. And some left-wing person

screen-capped a tweet who's like, this masculine idiot's never been in a museum ever in his life. What? And of course, my Twitter feed is full of me. Every town I go to, I go to museums, I take pictures of the art. I've got artists coming in the show. You volunteer for the caveman exhibit. Oh!

There you go. We've got to read a couple more. We volunteer for the caveman exhibit. Oh. Yeah. There you go. Let's just read. We've got to read a couple more. We're going a little over. Trip Suck says, Giardiniera is just American kimchi. Oh. You know?

Actually, yeah. I'm going to order some Giardiniera because we don't have any here. Yeah, I need to try it. Get some kimchi while you're at it. And we'll put it on pizza. Oh, yeah. I got Quest pizzas.

You know Quest? Everyone knows Quest, right? It's the keto protein stuff. We ordered Quest pizzas. I got to order some Giardiniera so I can just sprinkle it on pizza. Oh, yeah. I got Quest pizzas. You know Quest? Everyone knows Quest, right? It's the keto protein stuff. We ordered Quest pizzas. I got to order some Giardiniera so I can just sprinkle it on the top, just pour it on the top and then bake that. It's going to be so good. Yeah.

We might have some. Do we? We might have some canned in the basement. No. We might have some canned, but I don't know if it's still good. No, I don't believe that. I don't believe that. That's a lie.

That's probably not good. You're trying to get my hopes up. I've canned some a long time ago. No, that was not good. No, it didn't turn out very good. It didn't work out very well. I didn't seal it properly with the temperature. You need to get it really cold so the lid seals on.

I didn't do that. We'll get one more right here from Jake Dean. He says, Jolly old England introducing Vax passports on Monday. I will not comply. Yeah, there's a big scandal. I guess they were partying. There was a holiday party, and they're not wearing masks. They're all laughing about how no one's going to do anything about it.

I love it, man. All right, everybody. We're going to talk about tulpas and social psychosis over at TimCast.com in the member segment, which will be posted around 11 or so p.m. It'll be on the front page right up in the left. It's easy to find. So go to TimCast.com. Click sign up. Become a member.

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I did get a kickboxing trainer, coach. Yeah. And we could do this. Give me a few months. I need to get in shape. We could donate the money to charity. I'm down. I'm going to be documenting

my fitness journey on Twitter and Instagram under Luke We Are Change. And of course, I have a YouTube channel, We Are Change. I did a very interesting video about the singularity, technological advancements, and a lot of crazy stuff. YouTube.com forward slash We Are Change. And it could be fun. Dude, you know I'm a two-time WKA Muay Thai national champion. National champion.

Do you think that's going to stop me? I know that. I already knew that. No sanctioning body would ever accept that. Jack is going to be standing straight up, and he's going to have his hand on Luke's forehead. How dare you? It just goes like this.

Excuse me. You saw that video. I did. You posted the video of a giant with no skills and a midget with skills. The problem is I'm the giant with skills, and you're the midget without. Oh, snap. Okay. Too many words.

You might be seeing that, but what you're not seeing is the crazy Polak in me. Hey, hey, hey. Let's go. I am so stubborn. I have no idea. Thanks for hanging out, everybody. I'm too nervous. I feel nervous in my stomach thinking of you guys going at each other. Hey, love you guys. Thank you so much for coming out everybody. I'm too nervous. I feel nervous in my stomach thinking of you guys going at each other.

Hey, love you guys. Thank you so much for coming. Jack, I want to point out your book that's behind you. We didn't even talk about it tonight. Thank you. Congratulations on putting that out. Thank you very much.

And thanks for coming, man. My pleasure. Good to see you. IanCrossland.net. Catch you guys later. Thank you guys for tuning in. I'm looking forward to this fight myself.

You guys may follow me on Twitter at Sour Patch Lids. Thanks for hanging out, everybody. We'll see you all over at TimCast.com for that member segment. Bye, guys.