Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #426 - NYT Article Warns Civil War is Coming w/Siraj Hashmi

Episode Date: December 14, 2021

Tim, Ian, Luke, and Lydia join the keeper of the list and Twitter arbiter Siraj Hashmi to break down the NYT article that worries that a second American civil war may be inbound, the corporate press' impression that the Trump 'insurrection' is STILL ongoing, the prices of food skyrocketing to the highest point in decades, and Bloomberg's advice on how to combat inflation, the CNN producer arrested for apparent human trafficking and grooming, and finally, Siraj's Twitter-famous list of terrible takes from mainstream media and political pundits. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In an op-ed for the New York Times, Charles M. Blow writes, we are edging closer to civil war. And a hedge fund billionaire named Ray Dalio says basically the same thing. And his argument was, when a person's cause becomes more important than the system, the system is in jeopardy. And history teaches us that. It's a very, it's a good point. And I do agree.

But there is one big issue that is brought up in the New York Times article that I've said before I believe will be a catalyst for civil war. Or I should say it could be. I don't want to be as definitive. I certainly think we're in a cold civil war, which has been stated for years. But this issue is abortion. And they bring it up in the New York Times. Other people have brought up the same thing. And he draws interesting parallels to abolition and the Civil War.

Now, there's a lot to consider here. There's a lot to speculate on. And it's tough to know exactly what will happen because we all have that bias that says it can't happen here. But I will say this. Over the past several years, people have jokingly been like, oh, Tim's talking about Civil War again. And, yeah, absolutely. But it's in The New York Times. It's in The Hill. A Princeton professor has talked about it. Several security experts gave interviews

to all these high profile publications. So I am a little bit confused as to why people refuse to engage with the subject that is overtly mainstream and being talked about in the largest, or I should say at least the most prominent publication in the country. And now we have another story that is becoming explosive on the left. They're saying there is definitive proof now that Trump tried to stage a military coup because rumor was a White House official was saying the National Guard was going to be called in to protect Trump supporters during the insurrection. Now, I think, of course, the establishment view on this is it's insane, but that doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what you or

i think about their view of january 6th what matters is they believe it what matters is they view it as an insurrection and that means they want to pass laws as such which means the ideological battle has escalated the point where one side overtly is saying the other side tried to stage a military coup and they will not allow them to continue their conspiracy an article from the philadelphia inquirer they say the conspiracy is still happening so these people are actually in a state of believing a civil war is underway and like to the point of subversion but let's talk about it we also got some other crazy stories too i mean on a lighter note elon musk was named person of the. And on a darker note, a CNN producer was arrested for child trafficking.

So, yikes. Joining us to talk about all of this is the arbiter of internet morality, Siraj Hashmi. How's it going, man? High praise coming from you, Tim. Thank you. Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh. Thanks for having me. What do you do?

What do you work? What's going on? Oh, I have to explain myself every time? Yeah. Wow. Give it a good 15 seconds. All right. Siraj Hashmi, I'm the creator of The List, also co-host of the Habibi Power Hour.

Habibi Bros. Me and Jay. Majahe Kobe. The man who can always be banned by Twitter but always comes back. You can follow me on Twitter at SirajAHashmi. So the list is the list of people who should have their phones taken away. Based on bad takes. There you go.

Bad tweets. We got a big list, don't we? Oh, yeah. We're doing it. We're doing it live. Yeah, we're going to do a live breakdown of all of these really awful things stupid people say. Oh, yeah, from the past week. All right, it's going to be fun. Thanks for hanging out, man. Thanks for coming. We got Luke. It's good to have the Habibi in chief join us today. I appreciate you

coming here. And the shirt that I'm wearing today is the Grinch who stole normal life. And very wearing today is the Grinch Who Stole Normal Life, and very coincidentally, the Grinch looks a lot like Dr. Fauci. Now, if Dr. Fauci has an issue with this, don't worry. We're only going to take two weeks to slow the spread of this incredible merchandise, which you can get exclusively on thebestpoliticalshirts.com. Speed the spread.

What do you mean, speed the spread? Slow the spread. We need two weeks to slow the spread if Dr. Fauci doesn't like his depiction here on this T-shirt. And that's why, you know, it's just going to be two weeks, Tim. And then, you know, the shirt's gone. Everything's going back to normal. Everything's going to be fine. So thanks for having me. And because you support me, I'm here.

I've got to say, Siraj, your work with the list has inspired me. I've had many tweets where I've written them and sat there and stared at the screen and deleted. I've been glad that I did. So thank you for keeping me to task, my man. You know, the list is all about saving people from themselves. That was the initial intent behind it. And you know, if if if it happens to you, Ian, you know, my job is done. Glory. I do have to be honest, though. You jokingly threatened me with the list. I did.

Because I said my political positions are as follows. The government sucks, mostly. And you were like, mostly? Yeah. Which is correct. It's all of it. Yeah. Well, I initially wrote that, but I had to add the mostly because I'm like, I'm not an anarchist.

I'm just like- Are you, Tim? Yeah, I'm not an anarchist. Yet. just like – Are you, Tim? Yeah, I'm not an anarchist. Yet. Are you sure? Yeah. Are you an anarchist? There's like bits of government that I think is a good thing. What's that right behind you?

Is that an old – is that a knife? Is that a sword? Is that a dagger? It's a sword. It's a cutting utensil, Habibi. And a musket? And a muzzle-loaded flintlock pistol. A flintlock pistol, yes.

It's not an actual firearm. Oh. Because there's, like, it's, I guess it's not a legally one. No, no, but here's what I was going to say. Here's what I was going to say. I think I have to get on the list at some point. Like, death by a thousand cuts. Tim, this is the issue here.

If you try to get on the list, you don't get on the list. What I'm saying is, not that any of my tweets, you said you don't put trolls on the list. I don't put trolls on the list you don't get on the list what i'm saying is not that any of my tweets you said you don't put trolls on the list i don't put trolls on the list and so but the issue is at a certain point like i've tweeted so much stupid stuff like trolling yeah i'd be like all right just knock it off and smack the thing is all right if i didn't know you you do it then i might consider it because i don't know you because sometimes you cannot tell someone you don't know is trolling when they're trolling. It's like all trolling.

So, Tim, whenever you decide you want to get real serious and it's a bad take, don't worry. I'll be right there. Have you found you put people on that are trolling before you realized they were trolling? Yeah. I've fallen for that trap several times. And that's why I was like, if they're trolling, they can't go on it because – I feel like they should get awards of their own. Well, yeah, because they're trying to get attention and I'm giving it to them.

Yeah. I'm not trolling necessarily to get attention. I just like posting sarcastic, snarky, and nonsensical things sometimes. Tim, do you really need attention right now? No, I don't care. That's the thing though. I think people need to understand that about – when you make – like if you made a video where you like lied about having a Twitter beef or something desperate for attention, it makes you look pathetic. You know what I mean? Exactly.

And if you just do your thing and mind your own business, people won't talk about you. I was trending for like six weeks straight. So weird. And I'm like just stop, man. But I get it. I get it. We got a show. Let's carry on with the show.

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Charles M. Blow writes, the Supreme Court issued a decision allowing abortion providers in texas to continue challenging new laws we know that i'm not going to get into the nitty-gritty of him talking about what happened with that because i'll give you the simple version it's widely believed that come june 2022 the supreme court will overturn roe v wade now i don't know if that means it'll happen if it's probable or not it just means a bunch of mainstream outlets said conservative justices were signaling they would overturn it, and a bunch of the progressive personalities were like, it's over, the end is nigh. However, what he goes on to say is something really interesting. In this article he brings up in 1837, Calhoun railed in a speech on the Senate floor that slavery had grown up with our society and institutions, and is so interwoven with them that to destroy it would be

to destroy us as a people. He mentions that Calhoun was considered the father of secession. The interesting thing I see here when talking about the escalation of conflict and the Cold Civil War is what's the catalyst? Certainly you have tribalism where people care more about their cause than the system. And that's what Ray Dalio, the hedge fund billionaire, is brought up saying. That's why he believes we face a very serious chance of civil war. But what is the spark, the shot heard around the world that's going to be, it's going to light the match? I think it could be abortion. I think what might happen is June 2022, Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade. Maybe, I don't know, but let's just say maybe it happens. Then comes the midterms. Republicans say now's our chance to pass

federal legislation banning abortion federally. And Republicans rally around the idea. Of course, Democrats will rally, too. But let's say in this circumstance, Republicans actually end up winning. They then try to pass the legislation. But Joe Biden vetoes it. And they don't have the amount. They don't have the power in Congress to override the veto.

So now comes 2024. Donald Trump is campaigning and says the first thing he'll do when he's elected is sign the bill federally banning abortion, which brings us back to the 2020 election when John Podesta, as it was reported by the Boston Globe, said if Donald Trump wins, he would encourage the West Coast to secede from the union. Now, I don't know if they'll overturn Roe v. Wade. It kind of seems crazy they would. I don't know if there's going to be a red wave or a red tsunami. It seems like based on indicators that might be the case.

And I don't know if Trump will actually win. But these pieces are certainly in play. And the New York Times is actually entertaining the idea. And many other mainstream publications have as well. So I certainly think it's fair to say the conversation is here. It's in the New York Times. What Charles Blow writes, he says, this war won't be only about subjugation of black people, but also about the subjugation of all who challenge the white racist patriarchy. It will seek to push back against all the others, black people, immigrants, Muslims, Jews, LGBTQ people, and yes, women, particularly liberal ones. And thus he goes back to bringing up abortion.

Now, I don't know about all that. That sounds pretty darn crazy to me because I certainly don't think the right sphere of influence faction is white supremacist or believes whatever the hell this guy's saying, but they believe it. And that means they're willing to fight for it. And they believe this escalated to that point. So I don't know what you guys think. I've harping on this for for a long time positive negative you think something bad's gonna happen i mean you mentioned the cold civil war i think we're there but more so

on information we're dealing with two different americas right now you have a right and left and both sides don't seem to want to basically come to terms with what the other side is saying and it's become more divisive than ever it's supplanted religion as probably the one single great divider and it's i mean it's obviously not healthy and unfortunately uh you know you see a lot of uh i mean just last week i think axios was reporting that a lot of these conservative or right-wing uh platforms are starting up um and that's creating an echo chamber which is which is yeah which is funny considering that their entire their entire argument was oh you don't like it go build your own thing and then they did now they're complaining

about or that their whole infrastructure is an echo chamber and so when some people are like i don't want to be in an echo chamber they're like you're making an echo chamber yeah yeah the corporate media is an echo chamber absolutely and i think this article is absolutely hyperbolic i mean to claim that white supremacists are going to be targeting minorities and the LGBT community and liberal women specifically sounds a lot of the fear-mongering scare tactics implemented in this article that, again, are just absolutely baseless when you see it in its face value. Now, again, we are becoming more politically partisan. We are becoming very divided. We are living in bigger and bigger echo chambers.

But I do believe financially it's going to be a bigger ramification of utter chaos happening in the financial sector that's going to create little groups, and these groups will be fighting each other. And I think that's going to be the more likelihood of a potential civil war potentially later down the line. I just wanted to add one thing that really, you know, that strikes me as the corporate media and sort of like the elite are dividing us by all these different identities. It's identity politics. What this really would boil down to if they weren't dividing us into all these different groups is it would be a classist type of divide. It would be the ruling elite would basically be the subject of everybody's frustration,

and there would be a good chance that the powers that be would no longer be there if people would stop fighting with each other. But the interesting thing is it's not – when they talk about white supremacists and all that stuff, that's one of the lies they use to make the divide happen. But that's not – it's clearly a lie. What the actual battle is, in my my opinion is reality versus the matrix there are people who live in a fictitious reality based upon mainstream narratives that are not true and there are people who are discerning they challenge narratives and they try to figure out what's what is true and that means sometimes cnn writes an article that's true and sometimes they don't you got to

be able to figure out what makes sense and what doesn't. For a lot of people, a good example is Steve Bannon. We've had him on the show several times. The dude is clearly not a white supremacist, but if you go to these leftists, they will genuinely tell you, not in these stupid fake semantics, they will genuinely tell you they believe Steve Bannon thinks he's genetically superior to black people, which is just not true. I don't think he even talks about anything related to that stuff or race at all. He comes here and he's like, the rich people are ripping you off.

We've got to raise the taxes. He's a populist. So when you have someone like Steve Bannon who could make an argument that a populist leftist would completely agree with, but they won't talk to him because they're scared of the establishment, That's the driving wedge. There are some people who know absolutely that, you know, Alex Jones is, you know, he can be out there sometimes, but he's a populist. Steve Bannon, he's a populist, but they won't come and sit down and talk to him. You know why? We've actually reached out to many of the populist leftists, like, hey, would you want to come and join this show and talk to these individuals? And they're like, no, no, I don't think so. Sorry, I'm not interested. I will tell you this.

My belief is that, and this is just speculation for the most part, what do you think would happen if a progressive leftist sat down with Steve Bannon for two hours, just kept saying, I agree, you're right, I agree, you're right. That's correct. Yes, that's true. Yes, I agree with you. I mean, they get canceled. Yeah, absolutely. They get ripped to shreds. Actually, it's kind of funny because Shoe on Head, you're familiar with Shoe? Oh, yeah, of course.

She's oftentimes branded as now basically being like a right-wing populist because she doesn't treat people on the right like they're evil, even though she is very much progressive. And we've had her on the show. We've had her on the BB Power Hour and she was a great guest. And the thing is, the biggest threat to the establishment is people using their brains. They just hope people will never think for themselves. And when they start to, then they have a problem. So the idea is to just constantly dumb people down and use simple terms and create narratives that aren't true. And if anybody strays from that line, they're demonized for it. Yeah, and if anybody criticizes the intelligence agencies, they're definitely attacked for it. Just like Chew on Head.

Chew on Head also talks about the intelligence agencies, which is very rare. But the few people that do actually hit the nail right on the head for a lot of the issues that are being caused. A lot of the central controllers, a lot of the people who create the algorithms that helped build a lot of the big tech platforms. I think that's one of the key issues. What's that saying, Luke? What's the highest prize in journalism? It's not the Pulitzer. It's a CIA assassination. It's a bullet in the head by the CIA.

Yikes, man. But this is the kind of web that the media spins, and I think they do this deliberately. And there is cohesion and there is collaboration that does happen with the intelligence agencies and the corporate media that has been documented throughout the years, especially with a German prize-winning journalist, Ufket, who was talking about how essentially the CIA was writing press releases for him that he put his name under in some of the biggest publications in the world. But with this New York Times article, it's pretty much telling their few limousine liberal viewers and readers like, hey, these white guys are going to kill you because of your different. And then, of course, there's also bad parties on the other side saying, hey, these guys are going to hurt you because you're different. And in reality, these people have a lot more in common than they have. Then it divides them. But these divisions, I believe, are even not just hyperbolically overplayed, but they're also created when they're not even there. And there's like literally people created genders and religious views

and points of views that never existed, only way to kind of sow division amongst everyone else. And I think that absolutely needs to be called out. Yeah, the race, what is it? Race wars, political strife is great for ratings. Civil war, great for ratings. New York Times. Coronavirus, gangbusters.

Great for ratings. Fear, fear, fear, great for ratings. Watch out for it. See it when it arrives and navigate it around. Well, this is the big challenge even we face, right? I mean, the New York Times writes about this. They say the big specter of the right wing is going to oppress all the women and minorities,

and it's clearly insane. I think the last legitimate count of white supremacists in the U.S. was like 11,000 people, like legit, you know, like people going to meetings or trying to. And then even the woke left, I think, couple of years ago, the progressives were viewed as around 8% of the country. One of the challenges, though, is when you have an establishment that tells people a civil war is coming, and this is where the narrative started.

It didn't start with me. It started with, I think it was the Atlantic. They said, we surveyed a bunch of people, a bunch of security experts who said they believe there's a 30% to 90% chance of a civil war in the next 10 years. Then you get the Princeton professor. the Hill publishes an article about it. They're all entertaining this. When you have that narrative coming up from the establishment, and then you get a bunch of mindless, uninitiated political individuals who don't know anything about what's going on, but believe it, you're effectively dealing with, I guess, a self-fulfilling

prophecy. Yeah, because if you think a civil war is coming, then you're going to effectively dealing with i guess a self-fulfilling prophecy yeah because if you if you think a civil war is coming then you're gonna get right like you know in a fantasy realm you're afraid you're going to be attacked you get your weapon you you get stand guard and when you see someone coming you assume that's the person that's going to attack you so like so right right but here's what i want to make sure i'm clarifying i'm trying to be defensive fear i'm trying to be self-critical a little bit. I don't want to make you think that I was not. What I'm saying is we see that,

and then we literally do a video where we're like, mainstream media article says Civil War is coming. We talk about why they're fanning the flames of can possibly create it, but then us talking about it also creates that conversation. So a lot of people are like, as much as Tim brings this up, he sure must want it. And I'm like, I'm criticizing the concept and what the mainstream media has been telling everybody. But when you have these articles coming out saying Trump was staging a military coup,

there was an insurrection, and that's years after they've already been saying it's coming and the right's going to do this to you and that to you. It is like it's escalating, like we're getting to that point. Like what? So what do we do? do we just ignore it and not talk about it while the zombie hordes you know keep expanding if you remember even before the first iraq war there was a ton of build-up there was there was a ton of propaganda there was a ton of corporate media saying we need to bomb iraq and they laid the groundwork they pretty much made people okay with this larger idea that the United States is going to go to war with Iraq, which was absolutely a delusional, crazy idea, but they had to sell that idea for a very long time, and they primed it by talking about it for months and years beforehand.

So this could be a similar situation, but we also saw something similar with Syria. It never led to a full-out war in Syria, even though there was a big build-up. There was a big military corporate, military industrial complex campaign to start a war there. It never really happened because of the backlash against it. But with Iraq, there was still backlash, and they still did it anyway. So it's a very complex kind

of media landscape. I think I finally understand why Brian Williams left MSNBC. So he could fight on the front lines of the civil war. Keith Oberman's already fighting. He sadly already lost his mind in the process of doing so. But he gave it all. We can say that.

Check out the story we got from the Philadelphia Inquirer. This is, look, this story is a level of deranged. Nothing, I'm going to read the quote. This is the title. Nothing is more important than Team Trump's January PowerPoint urging a full-blown coup. The scariest part about Trump's coup plot, including a Banana Republic-style national emergency, is that the conspiracy is still happening. Is it? A mainstream publication is outright telling the people of this country, namely Philadelphia, but also the country, that there is a current ongoing Donald Trump conspiracy to take over the country. Now, what do you think that's going to do to someone's mind?

You got the New York Times saying the white supremacists are coming for you. They're going to target especially liberal women. It's almost like they're trying themselves to target liberal women with fear to make them lose their minds. And I'll tell you something interesting too. Suburban women in Virginia voted for Youngkin. They voted Republican. Clearly, suburban women do not like Donald Trump. Now you have the Philadelphia Inquirer saying, the conspiracy with Trump is still happening. It's a full-blown military coup, and here's the proof. These people live in a very twisted version. It's like a bizarro world.

Clicks. But if they do, won't that make them... So here's my theory. There are people who are finally over COVID. They're done with the fear factor of it. So what do you get in place of it? Civil war, coup, trump takeover of the country i i disagree man i i i partly agree i think there's a craving for like like the media is like

what can we pump up but back in 2018 i said if what we're seeing with the street fighting across the country popping up all over the place continues then i think we are heading towards some kind of civil war. I don't know exactly how that will manifest, but people make the mistake of believing it's going to be a Mason-Dixon line and the state's going like that. It could be something crazy. I don't know. Then in 2019, we saw more signs of it. It was back in 2018, these articles popped up. And then I started talking to people and they were like, you're crazy. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard that's I would have conservatives in DC tell me that and I'm like what makes you think it couldn't happen like why do you have that optimism bias it'll never happen here and the response I got was what's happening with Antifa and Proud Boys and right-wing groups and

stuff is is is a bunch of low-level you know bored losers fighting in the streets and it will never reach the point at the seat of government it bored losers fighting in the streets, and it will never reach the point at the seat of government. It will never be in the federal government, and the security state will shut it down. Now, we have, you know, political, like, fighting between, you know, the progressive wing and the populist right wing in Congress, threats of arrest against some of them. Nancy Pelosi is saying some of them should be investigated. How many of them do you think are feds?

Of which ones? All of them. Yeah Pelosi is saying some of them should be investigated. How many of them do you think are feds? Of which ones? All of them. Yeah, maybe a lot. Of our congressmen? You think they went undercover and ran for office? No, I mean like Antifa, Proud Boys. I mean just like how many? A ton of them.

A ton of them. So which is interesting. But the point that was brought to me was the federal government will never allow it to happen. And I'm like what happens when this conflict reaches the federal government? If the millennial generation and younger is divided to an extreme degree and they are taking these seats of power in 10, 20 years, millennials are going to be the majority, like 80, 90 percent of Congress. And that culture war is going to be in Congress. It's going to be in the president. It's going to be in the Senate. It's going to be in the Senate.

God. Yeah, right? Congress will be insufferable then. I mean, it's not insufferable now. They get BuzzFeed listicles. This is what this congressman did. Yeah, but like if these people who genuinely believe this stuff are in that seat of power, then the culture war does reach the government, and then what happens?

They get stripped of their power. No, by no i think i think i think the cultural already reached the federal government through trump because he he was very much leading the charge in that culture war i mean as soon as you had you know colin kaepernickick kneel during the national anthem. Trump took that as an issue, and boom, as soon as he said something about it in, I think, what, 2018? Then all of a sudden, it never left. You're right. The culture war reaching the federal government was the 2015 election cycle. Before that, we had Mitt Romney, Barack Obama in 2012, and it was very stodgy, boring establishment politics.

But in 2015, the culture war reached a point where people were voting on this. And it was the establishment versus, I guess, the cultural independence, the Trump people, the populists. The world. Well, so it used to be politics was a bunch of stodgy, boring, the lesser of two evils. But then Trump comes along, and he is like a bull going to storm through and smash everything up. All of a sudden, now the seat of the federal government was a culture war issue. Now it's 2020. We're entering 2022. How crazy is that?

We got to call Trump the rhino in the China shop because he's a rhino. In a sense, he's a liberal guy, random, the republic. He's a rhino, republican. I mean, he's not really a republican. Exactly. So he's not a true republican. We call him the bull. I'm going to call him the rhino in the republic He's a rhino I mean he's not really a republican Exactly So he's not a true republican We call him the bull I'm going to call him the rhino

Trump is Trump I mean So here's what I will say I just happen to be a republican Yeah this time I had an R next to his name We had I think it was Ryan Long was here

And I love Ryan He's great We The Habibis hate him though They don't like him? Really? He got me

He threw a hard question at me right when we started the show. He was like, so Tim, the last time I was here, you said a civil war was coming. You got me all freaked out. And then what's going on? And then I went, on January 6th, about 800 people stormed into the Capitol building to try and shut down the electoral. And he went, oh, yeah. And I'm like, so I had all these people telling me that nothing was going to happen. We weren't getting close to a civil war.

Now these establishment liberal types, when they say it to me, I just do the same thing. They go, where's civil war, Tim? On January 6th, 800 Trump supporters stormed into the Capitol. I don't know. Is that enough for you? I don't think it was as bad as they say it was. Yeah. For them, is it?

And they're like, oh, yeah. And now they're saying the coup is still happening. Well, that's the thing. Yeah, that's the thing. I mean, it's almost like they just want to be right every single time or they don't want to give you a credit. I mean, look. I think maybe the reality is like how does this train stop? There's like – do the Trump supporters who are sitting in the prisons right now in the solitary confinement, do they get released and then walk up to a Biden supporter and just cry and then hug and say it's america damn it and like we don't want this anymore

or do they say i was tortured by his staff by his administration by his doj and then does this result in people saying the system is corrupt and the left is saying but they're insurrectionists who should be honestly i think a lot of it is even happening now over a lot of these covid restrictions vaccine mandates mass mandates there are odd strange there's some strange bev fellows kind of working together on the left and right who oppose a lot of these restrictions and honestly that might not be enough to heal the country but it's brought some people together. I mean, we've seen Black Lives Matter marching with right-wing groups in New York saying opposing the vaccine mandates.

But is it possible that that actually is just part of further decay of the system? I mean, you don't have friends or enemies. You have common interests in politics. That's just how it's always been. And so, I mean mean they have common goals and once they say accomplish that goal then they'll go back to fighting each other so maybe maybe that's the normal we're going back to i think at if we look if i try to look at this optimistically like it's not going to get that bad because something will divert attention and the factions will shift again

before it gets too bad it kind of just feels like you know the swing is getting too far left too far right and then eventually the swing is too much and the tower topples over you know what i mean yeah like right now it's shaking we got a bad earthquake but not enough to knock the the structure of the united states down but if it keeps happening and the the swings get more and more extreme then eventually the whole thing's going to just implode on itself well the conditions that are creating the hyperbolic political moments, they're only increasing in their power and influence. If you look at big tech, it's only becoming more influential in our lives. If you look at the corporate media, it's being force fed on us even more. Those are the two biggest contributors. Those are the gasoline on the fire of this

quiet, cold civil war that some people say is happening right now. And those two institutions are not going away. They're only becoming more powerful. And I think it's in their interest to have people fighting each other because they also represent a lot of very powerful people. And those powerful people don't want them looking up and recognizing that the true source of their problems is the multinational corporations, is the billionaire class that is able to buy off government, buy off big tech social media. And it is them fighting each other based off trivial differences,

based off their DNA, their preferences. And if they can have people fighting with the pitchforks against the torches, when they have those two people going against each other, no one's focusing on any of the legitimate problems that is directly affecting their lives and how they live in this existence. But that just means that eventually the system crumbles and the elites escape with as much resources as possible. Exactly. I mean, the elites already have accumulated so much resources, so much money, but the elites never historically understand when enough is enough.

If you look at every time a country was robbed of its wealth, if you look at all the hyperinflation cases, whether it's Weimar, Germany, whether it's Argentina, whether it's Zimbabwe, whether it's Venezuela, it's always people saying, this is for me. I don't care about anyone else. The rats are leaving here. Let's plunder what we can. That has always happened through recorded human history, especially when you have a

government willing to increase the debt ceiling, increase the money printing, increase government programs that stand in the way of free economic flow of income and money and capital. So this is only going to get worse because of the financial ramifications, which I think are critical here because that's going to be the other kind of match. You have the fuel by the corporate media, the fuel by the social media, but the match, I think, is going to be the financial larger ramifications. Luke, I believe you are correct. We have a story from CNN. Food is more expensive

than it has been in decades. CNN, a broken, a broken clock, right? Twice a day. Bad news for American consumers. It's getting more expensive to dine out and getting more expensive to eat at home. Restaurant prices spiked 5.8% over the last 12 months, ending in November without seasonal adjustments. The Bureau of Labor Statistics said Friday that's the largest 12-month increase

since the year ended January 1982. And unfortunately for those hoping to curb spending by turning to home cooking, grocery store prices are also at record highs. They jumped 6.4%, the largest 12-month increase since 2008. Beef had the most dramatic increase with a 20.9% spike in prices. So let me ask you guys something. What do you think was the catalyst for the Arab Spring? Do you know?

This one worker who was having a hard time making ends meet, and because of the government fining him and regulating him, he ended up committing suicide, and his story went viral. That's the essence of what I understood it to be from some of the stories that I heard. But I think, Tim, you'd know a little bit more about this. Yes, I got the name wrong earlier. It was Mohamed Bouazizi. I'm saying that wrong?

Bouazizi. Bouazizi. Bouazizi. Yeah, he immolated himself. He was trying to, I believe what happened was he was trying to sell fruit. He was born on the 29th of March, 1984, and the government kept interfering with his ability to make a living. And eventually he couldn't, so he just went in front of a government building and dumped fuel on himself and immolated himself. And this sparked the protests in Tunisia, which started sweeping across these other parts of the Arab world, resulting, as many believe, in the Arab Spring.

There were some experts who reviewed why it reached the point where people were willing to overthrow their government. And there were a few key factors. One of which was... Inflation. Yes. Unemployment. The price of food.

Yeah. So people could no longer afford to eat. What happens when someone can't eat? Oh, they get crazy. Do people just say, well, I got no food, so I guess I'll just lay down here and die. Well, I mean, they do have eat? Oh, they get crazy. Do people just say, well, I got no food, so I guess I'll just lay down here and die. Well, I mean, they do have Ramadan.

Choosing. Fasting is good for you. It's okay, I'm Muslim. I can make these jokes. Yeah, there's something different about choosing because when you choose to fast, you're in control and you know you're in control. And you know the food's waiting for you.

Yeah, you don't know exactly when. No, totally get it. And you can prep your body too, like in the day before you load up on whatever you need for the week. Yeah, overnight. And you fast from sunrise to sunset and no water. People forget that. But people try fast. People often say, especially in the super chats here, they tell me that one of the things I'm –

oh, I would love to stand up and talk about these issues, but I have to make sure my kids have food. So the wager right now among many of these people is that by complying with the tyranny and what they're doing with mass spending and everything that's burning the system down, their kids will eat for a longer period of time than if they were to stand up and speak up. Because then their kids – they could get fired and they can't get food for their kids. I think what drives people towards revolt and conflict and crisis in a country, a civil war even, they can't feed their kids. And it's partly about themselves. I mean, what is the first thing? I mean, the first thing is like food on the table, roof over your head, and what, a place to sleep or something like that?

What's that order? I think it's safety. I think it's food, shelter, and safety. Security, like the things that cause massive stress. Right. If you can't eat, you're panicking. Obviously, the first one is safety. No, the first one is food.

No, no, no. Maybe we're conflating things, but I meant usually the goal, when you're trying to provide for your family, the first thing you always go for is food on a table. You can't provide food on the table. Yeah, then you got nothing. Yeah, you're screwed.

But at least you have a table. But then if you have no table, now you're cold, you're scared, and then there's violence or the police are threatening you. You have no safety. People just finally snap. And there are stories coming out of Germany where people killed themselves because of the lockdowns and the vax mandates. There's stories of a person lighting themselves on fire, killing themselves in Australia because of the lockdowns, because of the vaccine mandates. So these stories are already happening. And I think they're only going to be exacerbated, especially

here in the United States, where Americans are already dealing with some of the highest inflation in over 40 years. Joe Biden just gave an extra $20 billion for the defense budget. And there's a clear sign that when the government gets involved almost every step of the way, they are making the situation that much worse. And I think financially, socially, when people are going to see the larger effects of this, as they are already seeing the largest transfer of wealth in recorded human history, it's going to hit them hard. It's already hitting them hard, but this is only the beginning of this major wave coming our way that was produced by government, and I don't think there's any escaping it.

I don't think there's any life rafts. We might be able to, if we develop fusion power and decentralized power sources. And then the powerful people just keep the technology for themselves and don't release it to the general public and then hide it from everyone else just like free energy. That would be a problem. Then we would still see a crash of the system. Yes. I think the system could find some sort of resilience if we can decentralize our power sources other than – Energy.

Yeah. But what happened when Biden got into office? The administration basically stripped the U.S. of energy independence. Not that I'm saying petroleum energy independence is necessarily what you are. Petroleum's heavy. That's the problem with it. But it is extremely energy dense. So America was.

And we were in that exporter of oil. That's crazy, right? We were. And now Biden's like Nord Stream 2. Go ahead, Russia. You get your own pipeline. And now they're like, well, it's go ahead, Russia, you get your own pipeline. And now they're like, well, it's leverage now.

Well, have we ever entertained the possibility that Biden might be a Kremlin agent? Actually, no. That one actually makes the most sense, which is funny. You know? Not that I think it makes sense. He's pressuring Ukraine to cede territory to the Russians? I mean, come on. If Trump did that, everybody would be losing their minds. They'd be front page news on

everything. Nobody's talking about it. It's not even leading this show not to obviously... We did talk about it. We left it last week when it happened. You think he did it just to be like, don't go to Russia? Was his intention like, hey, Ukraine, don't get involved in a hot war with Russia, just give? Yeah. That was his

intention? Yeah, basically. Do you believe it? That's what it seems like his intention would be on the surface. What if Putin actually has compromise on Biden and he's had it the whole time? The pee tape is real. But it's Biden, not Trump. It's probably Hunter. No, no, no, no, no.

The pee tape, for those who aren't familiar, what was it? Donald Trump at a hotel? Yeah, in Russia. What did he do? He peed on a bed? No, no, no, no, no. The pee tape, for those who aren't familiar, what was it? Donald Trump at a hotel? Yeah, in Russia. What did he do? He peed on a bed? No, no, no. He paid women to release their liquids onto him. I told my mom this was going to be a halal show.

Hey, I'm using family-friendly language here. See, that was a manipulation. The establishment wanted to run Joe Biden. They knew they were going to be up against these rumors, so they took control of the narrative. The real story is there is a pee tape. It is not of Trump. It is of Biden. And it's not women of the night.

It's that Biden is old and incontinent and was sitting in the bed. He went, and someone got it on camera. Hey, he who is without peeing in the bed casts the first stone. I think every person at some point in their life, cast the first stone. I think every person at some point in their life just give over to it. You ever have a dream where you're peeing in your dream

and then you wake up and you're actually peeing? No, I mean, maybe when I was... Did I say that out loud? Yes. It happens. I think maybe when I was a little kid. Yeah, yeah, that's what I meant

when I was a kid. Not last week at all. Not last week, no. i don't know man um how do we pivot from that ukraine came up and then you know joe biden ceding territory to the russians that that was like food prices yeah we were on food yeah let's talk food well yeah man um i thought inflation was a good thing. Yeah, more money in your pocket. Didn't CNN write that inflation was a good thing? Yeah, I think The Intercept also.

I think you highlighted that. That pissed me off. Yeah. Bloomberg, inflation is good. There was a Twitter thread that I highlighted today. It was actually – I saw somebody retweet this thread where a guy basically says average people, middle class people, poor people don't understand what it's like being rich. And they assume a lot of things about rich people. Now, the funny thing is I certainly think the guy was like, I wish poor people could spend a day in the shoes of a rich person so they could understand.

And I'm like, dude, being rich is great. Being poor sucks. However – Do you ever watch Trading Places? But it is partly true. What he was basically saying is that the world is made for average people, not for rich people. And regular people have this assumption that rich people

can do things they can't do. They can just get whatever they want. So this is what really bothered me about... Well, this is a good context in relation to the Intercept article. The Intercept article talking about inflation, when people can't afford to eat, was like, the rich people hate inflation. And I'm just like, no, they don't. They can exploit it very easily without question. They can exploit inflation. You buy a piece of property,

the property spikes when inflation hits, and then you sell it later and you kept your money. You didn't lose any buying power. A poor person, they can't buy property. So they get a paycheck and that's just worth 10% less when they put in their savings. But it is true. And it's important to point out people in this country don't understand how finance laws work. They don't understand how money works. So they get screwed over by the likes of The Intercept. They get screwed over by the likes of CNN. But the weirdest thing is, how does someone read CNN and see inflation as good as an op-ed and then read food is more expensive

than it has been and it's hurting people and just be like, I'm going to keep reading this publication? Like they told me two different things, but you know, whatever. You know, some people just want to be, they want to have their biases confirmed.

And these news publications, the corporate media will just continue to feed them that drivel, even if it works against their own self-interest. And at the point, it's like the glutton that you keep feeding them, and they're killing themselves. I was just going to say drugs.

There's probably a lot of drug addicts out there who don't know and have any common sense or sense of reality, and they're just blindly gazed at CNN with their mouth drooling open and then just losing IQ points as they engage more in that dribble and absolute nonsense because there's no way to see the real-life ramifications of inflation and then to think that it's okay. Inflation, of course, first affects the most poorest people since, of course, common goods go up that are mostly readily available for everyone. And then, of course, later down the line, it impacts a lot of other people. Bloomberg had another insane article talking about how people should spend their paychecks right away while, of course, borrowing money as much as they can at the same time to battle inflation. It's absolutely ridiculous policy to have Jim Cramer up on national television saying that we have the strongest economy than we ever have ever.

And then and then his former substance abuse having self being on the same news organization that is reporting record high inflation. There's there's no way you could have both. And there's obviously a huge disconnect between reality and what the corporate media is telling you. I think they're meant to confuse you, but I think there's also a small population that wants to be kind of consoled by these corporate heads and told everything's going to be okay. Inflation's great for you.

It's all going to work out fine. Just give up all your powers to the bankers. Just give up all your sovereignty. Give up all your liberty and freedom. It's all going to be fine. I want to pull this article real quick. Sure, yeah. Just because Luke referenced it.

Yeah. Bloomberg is mercilessly mocked after advising Americans to spend their paycheck immediately and borrow lots of money to tackle inflation in similar advice given to economic basket case Argentina. We're imploding. Yeah. I just put it that way. They're like, negotiate a pay raise or two to get a house.

How? How can an average person afford a house? It's absolutely crazy, especially on modern wages, especially with their wages being devalued compared to, of course, inflation. People's savings, their whole life savings are absolutely being ruined right now. The value of the dollar is being devalued while, of course, the richest people take whatever they could get. The billionaires are more richer than they ever have been, and they're only going to become more richer from here. One thing that, you know, the last time I was on your show was my last day at the Washington Examiner. I've been independent since. That's nine months ago. And what I've learned in those

nine months is that the corporate media and a lot of these elites, I feel like their only purpose is to gaslight us. They're just, they solely exist just to drive us all insane. And when you have stories like this, it sort of reaffirms that idea that they're telling you that the, the sky is, is Brown when it's clearly blue. It's just, I don't know why. And then you go on Twitter and you're like, they're telling you that the sky is brown when it's clearly blue.

It's just, I don't know why. And then you go on Twitter and you're like, here's a picture of the sky. And then you get these establishment New York Times pundits being like, you're far right. And also they use it as a power play because then they could say, that person is crazy. That's why you need to give us more power and vote for us. Because if you give these people power, then you're screwed. Yeah. And more people are going insane. If you look at mental health, there has been an absolute downwards trajectory ever since the onset of drugs to battle a lot of people's negative health, mental health specifically, that's only becoming more of a bigger problem more by the day.

Let me read a little bit from this article. It says, the piece takes advice from Argentinians on how they deal with soaring inflation in a country ravaged by 50% price rises in a typical year, an extreme increase in the cost of living that's officially called hyperinflation. Among the handy tips, it advises Americans to negotiate a pay raise or two and to buy homes and cars. The article has been savaged by commentators who claim it's hopelessly out of touch with Americans facing the highest rate of inflation in 40 years.

Ian Miles Chong wrote, America is turning into the Weimar Republic with financial magazines advising people to spend their paychecks as soon as they get them. As soon as they get paid, hyperinflation is coming. Now look at this. I don't know if you can call it hyperinflation because that's sort of like a nebulous term. Inflation is the word.

Hyperinflation just means a lot of it. We're dealing with a major spike in inflation. They're spending more and more money. They're printing more and more money. The M1 money stocks skyrocketed when they converted savings effectively to checking accounts, but it's still skyrocketing faster than we've ever seen. I think hyperinflation is coming. I think unless there's some kind of major in like serious conflict crisis intervention or lockdown or something, we are going to see like hyperinflation. And that being said, any kind of intervention could only exacerbate it. So I just, I don't understand how you avoid this. On the screen right now, I have an image showing this major spike

in the past year. It tracks alongside perfectly what we see with the M1 money supply. You see one major spike straight up and then it curves a little bit and then goes up at a similar rate. It's almost nice, too. Almost at 6.9%. Oh, yeah. If it was 6.9%, we'd be chill about it.

6.8%. I'd be okay with it, but 6.8 i'd be okay with it but 6.8 we had max we had max kaiser on the show what did he say 15 percent yeah he says that the real numbers are a lot bigger than of course the official numbers that are absolutely under inflated it's kind of like unemployment i've been i've been saying this to for a while like especially here running the business i was like whatever we need for the business, let's not wait. Let's get it now. And the problem is our attitude is based on witnessing in real time, the ridiculousness of inflation and the mass money spending. So, you know, here we're like, what's our budget. We need new cameras for the new show. We need new studio equipment. Let's

not wait. Let's buy it now. And then build instead of, you know, building out the hardware, like building out the set design and then getting the equipment to fit it no no just buy it now we'll figure it out later because if we wait a month or two the price is going to go up 20 to 30 50 bucks who knows could even go up way more than that so let's spend it now that's a problem because if people have that mentality and they start buying like crazy that also sparks more inflation and makes the spiral happen faster downward spiral uh maybe it strikes me as like um the horse problem early 1900s i think you've more inflation and makes the spiral happen faster. Downward spiral? Maybe. It strikes me as like the horse problem, early 1900s.

I think you've mentioned this a few times where so much horse manure in the streets that they're like, at this rate, cities are going to be overridden with horse manure. What are we going to do? There's no solution in sight. Then all of a sudden, the car was invented. The entire problem was eradicated. Bitcoin. Yeah. It seems like it's a similar situation.

Whether or not we do create the automobile of the economy that we need today to solve this, I don't know. But it seems like that kind of problem. Well, it almost seems like financial collapse is the goal. I mean, you mentioned how the elites obviously are becoming richer. You also have to factor in the international interests that, say, like the Chinese Communist Party has in basically buying up parts of the U.S. More and more financial collapse only benefits them. Yep.

They're buying land like crazy. Exactly. And if they can buy more of our debt, they'll do it. Dude, it cannot be understated how valuable collapsing an economy is to the rich people. You make so much money when you collapse an economy and you're rich. You can buy up. Yeah, everyone's selling their homes so they could afford food. Everyone's renting instead of owning.

So that's one aspect of it. Is it time to ask if Biden is an agent of China? Oh, yeah. Wow. China and Russia? Let me show you this tweet. So President Biden tweeted, the United States pays its debts

when they are due. That's why today I signed a bill to fast track the process to raise our debt limit. To which I responded, I remember when my parents had to use credit cards to pay bills too.

Yeah, it's not good. Good one. It's not good. But it's a serious point. We were never in a good position when it was like, the electric bills do, what do we do? It's like, put it on the credit card. It's like, well, then you're just digging yourself into a deep hole. It's literally what the United States has been doing for a very long time.

And he's proud of it. And he's like, look how good I am. Look how great I am. I'm signing a bill that's going to indebt this country where you can't get out of financially. Your children are going to have to pay for this reckless spending that that's going to indebt this country where you can't get out of financially your children. We're going to have to pay for this reckless spending that he's trying to, as he's still trying to pass the Build Back Better bill and fundamental institutional changes that, of course, will just print more money, throw more money into their climate and equity efforts and all this other ridiculous nonsense that they're trying to push forward, which will push for more regulations, more taxes, more control of government in your life, which is absolutely crazy. I just got to say, the CGI on that video is

incredible. You can't even see the strings of the people pointing at his hands to sign that. It does look like a green screen a little bit. Is that from the real White Oval Office or the set? That looks like the real one. Yeah, it's got to be the real one. Yeah, there's a,

it's like across the street they have a soundstage and it's got like TV screens on the windows. It's not real. It's been a weird past couple of years I got to say.

It's been a weird year. Yeah, maybe, maybe the Large Hadron Collider, you know, caused the black hole to swallow the earth. You know, like Don Lemon said. Yeah, that's right.

Now we're just in this like weird twisted reality. Limbo. Where our thoughts are just in this weird, twisted reality. Where our thoughts are altering. Where thoughts become reality. Donald Trump is the president. It's possible that our thoughts are becoming reality much faster than they used to. I don't know if there's something to the internet. We're just in an episode of Black Mirror, guys.

Yeah, that's all it is. We live in a simulation. We take our lives too seriously. But right now there's some dude watching. He's just eating popcorn. He's like, it's a cool show. That live in a simulation. We take our lives too seriously, but right now there's some dude watching. He's just eating popcorn. He's like, it's a cool show. That's it. It's that South Park episode of Earth.

Oh, man. It could be. Everything seems – what's funny is people talk about miracles and stuff. I remember when I was little talking to people about religion. They're like, when you're older, you see the signs. I was like, well, I don't know about that. Now I'm older, and I'm like, there's no way this is real life. This can't be real.

Like Joe Biden is president. This is crazy. Everything that's happening is just ridiculous and stupid. Like everybody knows what's going on with Epstein, but like nothing happens. There's like a show trial and everyone just carries along. Like everyone, I think everyone just kind of pretends that the world isn't a giant fireball because it's the only way to survive. To just be like, I'm going to keep focused, eat my breakfast and go home and not worry about it.

Got to laugh to keep from crying. You can only keep your head in the sand so long until that fire gets on your, a family-friendly show, on your buttocks and lights a fire underneath your buttocks. So I think it's only a matter of time until people are affected by it. People are already affected by it. Their lives were interrupted. They were told to stay home for two weeks and ended up being bamboozled for over two years with this absolute draconian, totalitarian nonsense where now artificial intelligence,

facial recognition technology is being used to track, trace, and database almost every single move they make, like recently implemented in South Korea, like implemented in all the other nations that were formerly democratic that are becoming more despotic by the day. It's crazy what's happening out there. And that's why I think we also need to acknowledge that there's a lot of protest against it. There's been so many movements. There's been so many demonstrations. There have been so many gatherings from all over the world, from Peru to Georgia to the Czech Republic, Spain, Argentina, Austria, Germany, France. We have seen a huge, huge number of people come together and say enough is enough. I'm sick of this.

And for, you know, very surprisingly, well, not for me, but for people, the normies out there, the corporate media is not talking about it at all. Not even mentioning any of these mass movements that are coming together unorganized. What are they doing? They're coordinating with the Biden administration behind closed doors to spin how bad the economy is doing. And it's working.

To a certain degree, a bunch of articles popped up right after that where they were like, the economy is actually good. Five cents less for gas. This is awesome. This is great. Two cents. Yeah.

Literally pennies. I wanted to get into a dark story. We'll try to keep family friendly. But I want to open up this very disturbing segment by just letting you, Siraj, know. Did you know that Luke's been to Epstein Island? In what capacity? That's the right response. That's a good response to have? In what capacity? That's the right response. That's a good response to have.

In what capacity, Luke? This always happens all the time. It's so frustrating. So who was the first person who, like, reacted negatively? The point was that after the raid and everything was cleared, Luke got in a speedboat and was, like, filming, you know, the island and stuff. But when you tell people Luke's been to Epstein Island, they immediately go, like, when? Well, allegedly, after after he pre or post, he died. And, you know,

when there was that video footage from that drone coming out, allegedly showing someone that looked exactly like Epstein on Epstein Island after he allegedly killed himself, that's when we decided to take the speedboats, jump on the island, and kind of film and see whatever we could get from that particular nasty, horrible location where atrocities were committed. I like that pre or post.

Yeah. So I like to do, you know, we'll get a little humor in there and make everybody laugh on a dark subject because this story is going to screw you up. From Fox News. CNN producer accused of child crimes once decried growing news stories of child abuse cases in old tweets. New Day producer John Griffin faces up to life in prison. According to this report, I'm trying to keep it family friendly for you guys who might be having kids nearby because this is dark stuff. He worked shoulder to shoulder with Chris Cuomo. He paid a woman $3,000 to bring her nine-year-old daughter to his home where he committed a very serious atrocity against that child. And that's what he's accused of.

And I do think it's fair to say even in the most heinous of crimes, crimes we must recognize innocent until proven guilty. But these are very disturbing accusations against somebody working high level at CNN. We also have had a bunch of other stories, too, that I wanted to briefly mention. You know, the CIA, who was soliciting children, and they didn't want to prosecute him because they were worried about state secrets. And then, of course, the very obvious elephant in the room, Epstein, which has not yet been resolved, but everyone knows. And so the issue I have is it's really fascinating to me that if you follow the establishment, they'll tell you there's a conspiracy theory that powerful elites are abusing children and trafficking them. And sure, yeah, some of it is out there, crazy conspiracy stuff like, you know,

vampiric global elites are like exsanguinating babies to like live forever or something. Drink their blood. Which is a gross exaggeration of people who do get blood transfusions to try and increase their health or whatever but the reality is more and more stories are coming about high-ranking media establishment elites who are abusing and that's not committing atrocities against children let's just call it atrocities wood chipper all of them yep yep no no no well you're not pro wood chipper i'm not no we gotta lock them up we gotta lock them up. We've got to lock them up. Man, this has been going on since the dawn.

Not even just a little woodchipper? It's like, okay, when you get into a massive amount of power, do you go crazy? Because you're like, I am now in control of the slave ship. I decide who lives and dies. I'm insane now. So they tend towards this behavior, like what these people are doing to kids. Yeah. saying now so they tend towards this behavior like what these people are doing to kids or yeah or is it that those people i mean it's not natural it's not natural to do that it seems i don't know man you study history of like humanity like girls were getting married when

they were 12 10 000 years ago a lot of people gain a lot of power and a lot of money and a lot of it goes to their head there's megalomania there's people literally having god complexes if you look at jeffrey epstein he was into population control eugenics like a lot of very powerful people are now this kind of cnn cia connection uh doing horrible things to children is is not rare as of course there have been many instances when this has been happening with very powerful people, including a lot of people that are connected to the royal family that were doing similar actions that are absolutely unspeakable and horrible. We have Jimmy Savile.

We have the prime minister of the United Kingdom previously beforehand, caught red-handed doing unspeakable things, mainline celebrities. But hold on. I just want to make this one final point here. I'm not going to stop your train of thought. I'm just going to add one thing. There's a photo of Epstein at the Queen's Cottage. Yes.

But it's not just that. It's not just that. It's not just Epstein and Ghislaine. And there's also Kevin Spacey hanging out at specific areas that only the Queen's allowed to be in. So it's Kevin Spacey, Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein. But there's also photos of Ghislaine Maxwell pictured with Jeff Zucker's wife. Jeff Zucker is the chairman, CEO of CNN, and Ghislaine Maxwell is pictured many times with his wife. There's also pictures of Ghislaine Maxwell and the founder and the owner of The Atlantic.

The Atlantic just wrote a piece that was entitled The Great Fake Child, blank, expletive, the fake epidemic that's not happening. And they wrote an article about how this is all not happening just recently during the middle of the Ghislaine Maxwell case, which is absolutely absurd to say the least. And to see the owner of the Atlantic with Ghislaine Maxwell, to see Ghislaine Maxwell with Jeff Zucker's wife, to see Ghislaine Maxwell with so many other powerful people. Now it could be Ghislaine Maxwell just storming in, taking a photo there. I'm not here looking to, to make any judgments here. Correlation does not prove causation, but there sure is a lot of coincidences. There sure is a lot of these very powerful people that do work together, that do have similar, uh, actions that are unspeakable to children that deserve to be called out for, that deserve to be held accountable for,

that people deserve to be at least in prison for the rest of their lives for the horrible actions that they committed against children. And a lot of these crimes are not prosecuted. A lot of these crimes, the people who did the horrible things, they're able to get away with them. And that, to me, is the biggest injustice because in a lot of these cases, your tax dollars are paying for these people's protection's protection that's absurd i have to say so i i'm never going to run for president but if i did my main platform would be woodchipper we've got to lock people up

we've got to lock them up forever more people need to be imprisoned for a longer amount of time and many other people should not be imprisoned for non-violent offenses. For people who commit crimes against children in that particular manner, prison's not good enough for them. Prison's too good for them. So you're saying death penalty. That's the only time. Woodchipper.

I'm just not. I'm just anti-death penalty, man. I mean, no, don't get me wrong. I'm anti-death penalty too, but – For this group of people. But this particular one, I'm making a – And you know the thing too is like I really think the prison system doesn't work. But for people who abuse kids, I think we need a special place to lock them up.

Excuse me. Yeah, a lot of times – Like Epstein Island. When people leave prison, I don't know if the numbers – They enjoy that island. So I'd rather – No, no. I meant like it's only them though. Maybe like base of a volcano maybe a base of a volcano it seems like prison doesn't make people not pedophile like if someone's a child abuser

they go to jail it doesn't seem to make them not a child abuser anymore like they get let back out and i don't know what the recidivism is. Well, they sure face a lot of punishment. A lot of people who do hurt children when they do end up in jail face very, very tough circumstances by other prisoners who make sure that they face the full ramifications for their crimes and atrocities. Now, the problem is there's other people who are falsely accused. So, you know, that brings up a very interesting question and dynamic to everything. But when people who do hurt children go to jail, they have one of the worst times imaginable. The stories that come out of people who do that are absolutely crazy. And look, like I said, even the most heinous crimes, the CNN producer, still innocent until proven guilty. Right. And yes,

I believe in a justice system. I believe that forensic evidence will prove guilt or innocence. Well, you never prove innocence. Well, I'm sorry. They are innocent. Apologies. That's right. Misspoke.

Proves guilt. Do you support the death penalty, Luke? It's something that I haven't come to a conclusion on. It's very hard to make that kind of call. Based on each circumstance, based on the situation, it's hard to just generalize that kind of concept and idea because it's something that I need more time to research and study. I have to say, part of me was trolling a little bit because, yes, I am actually very anti-death penalty.

I mean, for example— I don't think the state should have the right to kill somebody. Oh, for sure. You don't give that power to the state. It's actually – you're letting him play God. I should very much clarify that statement, right? There are certain circumstances, war, conflict, the defense of others, obviously. I just mean like empowering the state to decide they can end someone's life.

Right. I think you convict someone, you go through due process, then you can lock them up. Like on the real, I'm definitely anti-death penalty, and I'm with you on that. Lock them up. Yeah, never. And I think that, as you were saying, Luke, yes, people who commit crimes against children, they definitely have the worst experience in prison, so I'm perfectly okay with that. That's okay, at least.

But, you know, wood chipper. I tend to support the death penalty. My whole life, I've supported the death penalty, but, I mean, why support the death penalty? Because I think some people are so deranged and damaged animals that they are just a detriment to our species. Well, okay, so let's do a vote right now. How many of you here think Ian is being a detriment to us and we should have the right to end his life?

I think we should take away his phone. See, there you go. And that's the segue to the vote. None of you will ever be judges. My point is to be an individual to have your own life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, and then to have the majority

just to say, we decide what morality is and our morality dictates we as the majority can vote for the end of your life I say that that's just absolutely incorrect I mean you can't do that that's the history of our species

and that's wrong tossing people out of the tribe and that's wrong because what's going to happen is you're going to get a bunch of wokists who are going to be like you said a hate speech

off with the set hurtful speech what about when one guy is like eating all the tribe's food and you're like stop and he's like it's called tying up his hands and being like

no you can't use your hands yeah and he's like okay so then you let him go and he does it again so then you kick him out of the tribe then he raises an army and comes back and kills everyone and takes the food like at what point do you just nip it in the bud that's ridiculous just because someone is exiled doesn't mean they're gonna raise an army well that's what napoleon did he got exiled and then when he came back all his old generals joined him again and then he sounds like his old generals were friends with him.

Yeah. Sounds like he never lost his support from the... Should the French have executed him when they arrested him the first time after he... No. Really? You don't think so? Dude, I don't believe in the death penalty. I think...

How about if they didn't exile him, and they put him in the... Was it the Bastille? They didn't want to martyr him, so they exiled him. And they could have just locked him up? But they didn't want to martyr him. so they exiled him. And they could have just locked him up, but they didn't want to martyr him. They thought that if they publicly punished him... So what you're saying is that Osama bin Laden is still alive and that he's being held in a CIA black site because the United States did not want to martyr him, right? I believe it.

Yes. You're on to something. That's why they followed strict Islamic protocol and dumped him into the water, which obviously is never in any kind of Islamic script or understanding at all. I don't even necessarily agree with imprisonment to a certain extent. I think if the community decides you are a threat or a danger to others, then exile is the right way to do things. The problem is in the modern world, it's impossible to do. Because everything's controlled by somebody. There's an interest everywhere. There's tons of people.

So all they can really do is say, we can't let you go because no one else is going to be happy if we do that. So we're going to lock you in a box forever. And I'm like, I'm not a big fan of that, you know, of like 10 people saying we believe you did X. Therefore, we can take away your life, liberty, pursuit of happiness because those people often are wrong. They're more often correct, like a jury of your peers. You know, I think for the most part, our legal, our judicial system does a good job of protecting innocence.

But a lot of innocent people go to prison. And I agree with Ben Frank, the founding father's view on the right of the accused to be innocent until they are innocent until proven guilty, in that if people believe that the state at any point without reason can strip them of their rights, then they have no reason to believe and adhere to that system. Meaning if it gets to a point where people are just like, why bother? They could arrest me anyway. Might as well shoplift.

Why bother playing by the rules if they're not going to play by the rules either? And that's where we're going. And that's freaky to me. We're at a point now where we can see Hillary Clinton, 30,000 emails deleted, nothing happens. Well, yeah, I mean, we're heading in that direction already because, and again again the more information that we're exposed to the more we understand that the game is

stacked against us or rigged and basically we're you know it's a big club and you ain't in it we're not in it i'm thinking about all that oil although tim you might be in it i i don't know maybe what was it what does it mean to be in it. I don't know. Maybe. What does it mean to be in the club? I don't know. You tell me. You're in the club. What does that mean?

I don't think I'm in the club. I think just like... You get the same medical treatment as Congress does that nobody knows about and no one is supposed to talk about. That could be one of them. Well, I'll put it this way. There's a barrel full of crabs, and I'm the crab on top of that barrel

trying to climb its way out. There you go. And everybody's, you know, you know crabs in a barrel and they catch, and I'm the crab on top of that barrel trying to climb its way out. And everybody's, you know, crabs in a barrel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think you're in Tier 3 club. There's a bunch of crabs outside the barrel doing that crab dance. And then there's Tier 2. And that's Congress and CEOs and global elites and all that stuff.

Yeah, that's the Tier 2 club is like the Elon Musk and those people. And then the Tier 1 club is like Davos and, I don't know, Saudi Princess. Council on Foreign Relations. Yeah, I would agree with that. Like Elon Musk is powerful, but I don't think he's Davos powerful. You know what I mean? He might be the richest guy in the world. That doesn't mean a whole lot.

It means he's the richest guy in the world. He can buy a super yacht. Yeah, but he's working on AI technology. He's working on microchips inside of human brains. So he might be, especially with how much power technologically he develops. So it could change at any moment. He has enriched himself a lot recently. And he made some very interesting comments against the vaccine mandates just a couple of moments ago, which I think are very important.

What did he say? Are we going to talk about that? We're going to talk about the list. But I was going to add one more thing about the death penalty to give some agreement to Ian because some people are chatting some good points. One point is the state does have the right to end someone's life in self-defense or in defense of others as a person does as well. And there's an argument that through due process, the state has determined for the safety of the community, this person cannot be, you know, confined or held. It's just too dangerous. And so thus, this is, you know, how some people justify the death penalty. I don't agree because the risk of the state to callously and incorrectly execute the innocent

is too great for me to support a system in which the state is authorized to end life. Dude, in the age of deep fakes, like if someone gets gets caught like committed uh accused of a crime that they didn't commit but there's a deep fake of them doing it that's going to be just terrifying oh man it's and then you're gonna have but but it's beyond that you're gonna go to court and you're gonna have a prosecutor stand up there and say ladies and gentlemen of the jury the defendant used hypertext markup language through the hypertext transfer protocol to gain access to information that you would not be able to get access to.

And the jury's going to go, maximum sentence. Anybody understand what I just said? I said he's going to type in a URL. I was going to type in a web address. But I witnessed this happen to some degree in the trial of Weave back when he was being prosecuted because someone he knew entered a URL and got an email address. And then he said, let's send it to journalists. The feds prosecuted him on this.

And it was hilarious to hear the prosecutor explain during a sentencing why he should be locked up forever because he used hypertext markup language to the hyper hypertext transfer protocol to get access to people's private information why should he have the right to use his knowledge and power against us and i was just like bro he literally just told the court that some dude typed into google some words and now we should go to prison for it and people regular people don't get this yeah it's not even about deep fakes it's about like we're beyond the point where a regular person can understand every system. You know what I mean? Yeah, and when the prosecutor's more focused on winning the case than a justice, that's a problem, too.

I mean, imagine facing off with state prosecutors like Binger and Kamala Harris going against you, knowing that you're innocent and still arguing to keep you in jail or to punish you for a crime that you didn't commit and there have been innocent people that have been sent to jail that didn't commit any crimes and there also has have been people who have been uh sentenced to death and killed by the state that were innocent and never committed the crimes that they were told to have committed so there's instances of that as well that we need to recognize. And this is already without the deep fake technology that you were talking about, Ian. Let's talk about the list. Yes.

Oh, yeah. Siraj, tell us, what is the list? The list is a power ranking of people who need their phones taken away. Oh, power ranking. Well, yeah, it's power ranking. I mean, it started off as a power ranking. But it's usually a top 10 of people who need their phones taken away based on bad tweets. And I do it weekly. I do it Monday nights. Tonight? Oh, it's Monday night top 10 of people who need their phones taken away based on bad tweets. And I do it weekly.

I do it Monday nights. Tonight? Oh, it's Monday night. Yes. So we're going to do the top 10 people on Twitter. We are doing an abbreviated version. I narrowed it to just 10 candidates this week. We're just going to debate the order of which ones just because I can take up to like two hours doing this on the list stream.

You got a list here. I got a list here. Starting from 10? Yeah. So this is the top 10 list of the worst tweets of the week of December 13th, 2021. Do you do this on Rumble or YouTube or anything? Yeah, I do Rumble, YouTube, and Twitch. Because you know top 10 tens are huge on YouTube.

Like people love top ten lists where it's like the top ten whatever. Well, I have a feeling that YouTube is a bit Islamophobic and they don't want to put my stuff up there. That explains it. Yeah, because if they weren't, they would just put you on the front page every day. Exactly, yeah. That's right. It's wrong think. Yeah, that proves it.

I agree, yeah. All right. We have the list here. All right. Do you want to read it? Yeah. Well, so yeah. All right. We have the list here. All right. Do you want to read it? Yeah. Well, so here's the thing. I usually read it in a Pakistani accent because my family, they are from Pakistan.

So I can read Bloomberg. They are coming in number 10. Some of the advice on how to cope with rising inflation includes spend your paycheck right away it sounds so wise we didn't and we did talk about this one that is a very good tweet to make the list um i usually go into commentary so like do you think this deserves recognition ian luke absolutely they're they're absolutely insane i was talking about this before i even knew it was on the list because it's it's a an absolute slap in the face to anyone paying any uh attention to reality now what if it said spend your paycheck right away on bitcoin that's what i'm saying then i'd be like that's a good if they're what they're saying is spend it before it gets devalued

on something that's going to inflate in value then okay okay. But if it's spent haphazardly on anything, you're going to love number nine. We should get a clear plastic for the TV so I can take a sharpie and write with Bitcoin. All right. Number nine. It is the hint.

Bitcoin surge, a boon for white nationalists. Study. The funny thing is, it's a boon for white nationalists. Study. The funny thing is, it's a boon for everybody. Exactly. So why is it not white nationalists? Well, because look, they take the umbrella of everyone. And then within the umbrella of everyone, there's a smaller umbrella of white nationalists.

And that's the one that's going to get clicks. Remember that Ryan, I think it was Ryan Long that was making a skit about the employees that work at vice and they took and they took uh reproductive toys and they just started throwing it at him it wasn't ryan long okay but i remember if i think ryan long did something similar but i think it was someone else i don't know someone will tell me on the internet but they took uh a male reproductive organ toy and they like literally threw it at a board filled with a bunch of names and it stuck and then they literally created their titles out of it i think this is this was a case of that right ryan longs was where he was like you

have a bag of nouns and two different nouns and he was like why blank is bad for blank yes he would just pull random ones up and then he would like, the funny thing is he would show actual articles titled that. So yes, Bitcoin surge, a boon for white nationalists

much in the same way that Bitcoin boon is a surge for quite literally anyone who owns Bitcoin. Yes. And their pets. It's just amazing.

I was actually reading a chart the other day that showed that Bitcoin is actually a huge boon for black people and investors in every field. And El Salvadorians.

Yep. And has lifted a lot of people out of poverty. Yeah. Not racist enough. Yeah. All right. All right. This is an economics heavy list.

I'm usually not used to this. It's usually a lot more on Hinge, but don't worry. It gets worse. It gets better. Number eight, we have Paul Krugman. He tweets, aside from priorities, is this even true? Is there any good reason to believe that inflation hits low income households especially hard? Okay, hold on, hold on.

He's an economist. Now he's obviously, yeah ahead tim no it just reminds me of um the feature-alm episode where the judge is um he's judge whitey and he's like oh poor people the only poor people i want to hear about are the people who tend to my pores in the spa like that's that's what it reminds me of yeah pretty much it's accurate i mean krugman has just been wrong on so many things everything it's uh I don't even know where to start with this one. The man has no shame. He doesn't.

So when, I love this because when Bloomberg is like, quick, spend your paycheck as soon as you can because of inflation. And then he's like, is that really hitting low income households especially hard? It's like, bro, they're literally telling them to dump their money as fast as possible. Like, that's pretty bad. What he's saying is if money is becoming less valuable, then the people that don't have any money aren't being affected by it anyway. That's a good point. Why are you worried about inflation?

You don't have money. No, you don't have money. So why are you worried about the value of money? Yeah, that's fair. Duh. It was so easy. That makes sense. Number seven.

President Biden tweets out, The United States pays its debts when they are due. That's why today I signed a bill to fast track the process to raise our debt limit. And if you don't believe me, you shut the hell up your mouth. Yeah. This is effectively the President of the United States saying we're in debt, so I took out a new credit card. Yeah, I took out a new loan. A new line of credit.

See, the thing is, you know, they don't like it. They don't like Ponzi schemes, but they like Ponzi schemes. You know what I mean? The government doesn't want you doing it, but that's literally what our economic system is. It's a Ponzi scheme.

Yeah, it's the Federal Reserve. Yeah. Number six. Here we go. Lauren Boebert. Oh, no. Lauren Boebert. Oh, 365,348 children went missing in 2020.

You haven't heard a word from media about it. Therein lies the problem. Oh, I'm sorry. therein lies the problem oh i'm sorry there and lies what the problem i see what she did there i'm so therein lies the problem but that's not why it's less worth it yeah it should be i mean this is a thing this is a this is a thing remember remember like a month or two ago with uh the gabby petito case and then you had joy re going on msnbc saying that this is like this is a missing white woman syndrome and no one has talked about like missing people of color since it's in the same token here with lauren bobert like you can there's nothing stopping lauren bobert from tweeting about missing children.

She's saying the media doesn't run these stories. You know what I mean? No, I know that. Yeah. Is that an accurate number? Is that domestically or internationally? Is that a world number or a U.S. number? Or is that even just a made-up number?

Good question. Is M.L.I.s a word? No. It's not. No. My bigger question is... She's spitting right there. I like that. She's making up words like I She's spitting right there. I like that.

She's making up words like I do. I got to say. I got to say. I think this should be lower on the list. You think it should be lower on the list? Yeah, I think it should be lower. Where do you think it should be? I don't know.

It's like it's a weak point. You know what I mean? What do you think? Like number 10? Yeah. Yeah, maybe. Okay, we can move it to number 10. Yeah, maybe number 10.

You know, because one of the things that really bothers me about media criticism is they go like, X happened, and I don't see the media talking about it. Right, yeah. And there'll be like 20 articles that just Google search it. Yeah, no, it's lazy criticism for sure. Yeah, yeah. And that is on my intern, Ben, who is Ben Morsey, who is going to be fired for this. He's going to be fired.

Ben, what have you done, Ben? You could go follow him on Twitter, BenMorsi16. Oh, here we go. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. I was just about to say this. I was just about to say the next one. Anytime.

But I'm going to let you do the honors. Okay, I see it. Okay, I see it. Number five, the Atlantic. Across the United States, well-meaning citizens are raising awareness about the child trafficking epidemic that doesn't exist. Kate Tiffany unpacks how an internet conspiracy theory birthed a 21st century moral panic. Now, did the CNN and CIA pay for this particular piece of journalism? Did child trafficking write this article?

What kind of ruling elite person, how much money did they drop to cover up their horrible antics when it comes to hurting children in unspeakable ways? The real Epstein is in an underground bunker writing the story for The Atlantic. The real Epstein are the friends we made along the way. But I was talking about

this during the broadcast as well. So I'm happy that made the list because it's really incredulous to say the least. the owner of the atlantic is seen in a very weird bikini photo with glaine maxwell cuddling up to her so there's that here's here's the issue they say um child trafficking epidemic how do you define something when you're when you're using a metaphor to describe what it is right like i guess they're literally saying it's like an epidemic of trafficking. But what's the threshold for that? There's no CDC guidelines.

Is there like if 100,000 kids, it's officially an epidemic? Because the question is if we get a bunch of stories, if we know what Epstein was doing, if we know what the CNN producer is accused of doing, if we hear these stories at the CIA officer and we know there are powerful elites doing really messed up stuff with kids, at what point do you decide it's an epidemic? Yo, America's ODing hard on child trafficking. Number four. Number four. We have Midas Touch.

Oh, wow. Midas Touch. Absolute. It is terrible account. I hate this one. But let's read. January 6th was biggest crime ever perpetuated against the United States and nearly every Republican is complicit.

But that's true. Every Republican. Every. Every Republican. Even the people that registered after January 6th. Isn't it a crazy thing to believe that? January 6th had a bunch of bumbling people walking

through open doors where the police opened it for them. Cops were being reprimanded because they were taking selfies with people. There was that riot in the front where they're fighting with police and all that stuff. And it's bad, of course. The biggest crime? Didn't the British burn down the White House? Wasn't it the French?

No, the British did in 1812, I think. 9-11, Pearl Harbor, Oklahoma City. Yeah, many such cases. Many such cases. Yeah, yeah. I mean, quite literally any serial killer. Yeah. Jim Crow?

Yeah, yeah. Slavery? Yeah. The Tostiga Experiment? Yeah, that's one. MK Ultra? I mean, there's just too many. January 6th wouldn't even make any reasonable list of crimes.

It wouldn't even make the top 10. It wouldn't make the top 100. You know, I could probably make a list of 100 crimes against the United States that were worse than January 6th very easily. Oh, yeah. You want to make that list? Next time. We'll do that next time. The 100 crimes against the United States that were worse than January 6th very easily. Oh, yeah. You want to make that list? Next time. We'll do that next time. The worst crimes against the United States ranked.

But here's the funny thing. It's like if you go back through history, there's going to be ransacking of orphanages. There's going to be the burning down of government facilities. There's going to be the bombing of a military base. How many military base bombings have happened over the past 20 years? Quite a few. Like in the Middle East? Oh, yeah.

Middle East for sure. I mean, yeah. Tons. I mean, can't even name them off the top of your head. So you'd have to go like non-wartime tragedies against the United States.

Why? It'd be too easy if you did wartime too. God, we're just creating new lists out of the list. This is crazy. Sub-lists. Well, this is a very common one.

They just say things they don't think. Yeah. Number three, Stuart Stevens. Now, this guy is actually Lincoln Project. Oh, God. Or at least he's part of that ilk. He tweets, To be more concerned about inflation than a plot to end democracy is pretty much a definition of the choice made by many and pre-doubled out to Germany.

Oh, my gosh. That is – wow, very astute, Stuart Stevens. Wow. The insight here is astounding. Yeah. Yeah. You think it's appropriate? Top three?

Top three list? Yeah, top three. I don't know about top three. Okay. But I think the Midas Touch one is like – should be up higher. You think – Maybe flip him. Maybe flip him. Maybe flip him?

I don't know. He's pretty unhinged there. So why would you argue that this is worse than the Midas Touch? Because it's just absolutely low IQ to the highest degree. Remember when you were a kid and they would be like, are you PT? You ever hear that one from a little kid? And then no matter what you say it's like a stupid joke that kids say like if you say no they say you're not potty trained and you say yes they say you're a pregnant teenager like it's the stupidest child like that's how that's how i view this uh-huh it's like operating under

an assumption that like he's decided something is happening that's really really bad yeah like what i mean is you know like no matter how you view it he's going to imply the worst possible thing is currently occurring like there's no uh he he's he's his statement assumes too much i guess yeah uh so you think it shouldn't be top three though no because look at this one january 6th was the biggest crime ever perpetrated i mean i i'm kind of with you on that i don't know maybe you're right you know you know what you know what i'm let's think about it's like poker right so let's do this uh uh midas touch says january 6th was the biggest crime ever perpetrated against the united states that's kind of like an ace high yeah i mean like it's one statement oh no no he added every republican is complicit that's a pair

of aces okay but here let's go down here. We have a couple things. He's saying inflation isn't as bad. There's a plot to end democracy. And he's comparing it to World War II Germany. We got three of a kind. Yep, yep, yep. So I think it does make the right spot. All right, that's fine.

Number two, Daily Mail Online. 32,000 Americans who think they'll be alive for Christmas will be dead by year's end. Yes! That's a good one. Number one better be pretty damn good because that's great. That's huge right there.

All that's missing is and you may be one of them. Yeah, yeah. Thank you. Thank you for that Christmas present, Daily Mail. I really appreciate it. Okay, here we go. Number one.

Oh, yep, yep. She spells it Noel, but it's actually Nell. She did it for that Christmas thing. This is after the horrible, horrible tornadoes that over the weekend in Kentucky, or like over 64 people have died. So I'm not going to read this in the Pakistani accent. I'll just read this in my normal voice. She tweets out,

Sorry, Kentucky. Maybe if your two senators hadn't spent decades blocking legislation to reduce climate change, you wouldn't be suffering from climate disasters. If it's any consolation, McConnell and Rand have F'd over all of us too. Well, I do got to say she's correct, because as we know, Rand Paul has been actively assisting China with their pollution. And, well, America, of course, has been – wait. Rand Paul has no power over what China is doing, you're telling me? So that's not the case?

Yeah. What? So Rand Paul and Mitch right have been assisting they're the reasons why the tornadoes right yeah right so they're in charge of the weather machines yes right well no what she's saying basically is that you know rand paul has been blocking legislation against china right right wait wait what oh she's talking about america yeah oh she thinks we have control over the other oh yes yeah oh yeah are you what oh she's talking about america yeah oh she thinks we have control over the other oh yes yeah oh yeah are you talking oh you're talking about the trichlorofluoromethane

that's being emitted from from china's uh factories in the northeastern provinces of the country that has like the highest ozone depletion factor yeah and also just like the general carbon and so um the funny thing about this whole climate change thing especially is like uh the united states passes all these bills all these laws locally uh banning plastic straws banning plastic bags and yet the pacific gyre and all the garbage is still there why because other countries yeah so if you're concerned about climate change and you're blaming rand paul it's pretty you have no idea what you're talking about. This lady needs her phone taken away immediately. If you scroll down, Lydia,

you can see that she deleted that tweet. Does she earn any kind of credit for deleting it? Just more humiliation. I'm surprised we don't have Democrat politicians calling to defund tornadoes with that same kind of logic. It's absolutely insane to use the tragedy that people are going through right now for political brownie points.

I mean, that's just disgusting. I miss the good old days when the public warning was, don't fire your gun at a tornado to stop it. Didn't Donald Trump talk about nuking? Yeah, he wanted to nuke a hurricane. He actually did want to.

He asked about it. I don't think he wanted to. He was like, if we nuke it, will it do anything in there? Trump, like the hurricane. It's as big as New York. It's like nothing's going to happen. He watched too much Sharknado's baller move. Now, I've got to say something. I understand why you made Nell number one, because it combined like bad taste with

disrespect, bad timing, and just everything about political like exploitation. And it was a very serious, you know, I want the Daily Mail one to be the first because these are good. You know, I'm looking at all these things and I kind of view it like poker. You know what I mean? Like, so this 32,000 Americans who think they'll be alive for Christmas will be dead. These are good. You know, I'm looking at all these things, and I kind of view it like poker. You know what I mean? So this 32,000 Americans who think they'll be alive for Christmas will be dead, and they did dead in all caps. I love that.

That's the right method, right? Yep. By years and expert warrants. It just combines so much. It's like almost a royal flush of bad tweet. You know what I mean? Yeah, but I feel like when weighed against a sensitive and devastating event like Nelscavel's, that trumps that. So let's break this one down. You've got the Kentucky tragedy. Yep.

You've got political exploitation. You've got climate change. You've got a dig at Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul. And she's including herself as a victim in the... Yeah. And also in the beginning, she starts off with, sorry, Kentucky. It's very blasé as if like... It's like... It's like, you know, like, you know, sorry this all happened to you, but...

It's like a royal flush. Yeah. I think it hits it. I think it is. That is easily number one with a but... It's like a royal flush. Yeah. I think it hits it. I think it is. That is easily number one with a bullet. It's like someone... That you then fire into a tornado. This is the equivalent of someone in real life getting run over by a car and then a

liberal lady walking over and be like, it's all fossil fuels fault. And then like, call an ambulance, help! And they're like, nope, I'm sorry. We got to burn more fossil fuels to get that ambulance to you. There was that story where a guy working at an Amazon warehouse, I guess, texted, they're not letting us leave. Oh, man, that's terrible. I just got to say, ladies and gentlemen, whoever you work for, if there's a tornado coming, think about yourself first. Protect your family.

If your boss is like, you can't leave, yo, tell your boss, have a nice day. Because I can go talk to the labor department, the labor board, after the tornado, and we can deal with this and you trying to play some BS, man. But how about we now go over the Super Chats? I'm just happy that we got that all done in less than 30 minutes. That usually takes me like two to two and a half hours. I do want to make one quick announcement. Let me see if I can pull this up before we get into Super Chats.

I have great news. This has actually been true for a while, but I didn't actually think much about it until today. Nick, who's part of the Castle crew, he was like, hey, did you know that Timcast is the 15th highest super chatted show in the world? And I was like, no, is that true? I know it was true during the election, but that to me wasn't surprising. But actually, the only channels that are above us, save for maybe a couple exceptions, are sexy anime waifus.

And they play Minecraft. And now you know where all my money went to. Well, let me just say. Sorry, honey. People said VTubers are beating him. Well, I'll say this, though. I'm not here to compete with sexy anime waifus. You can't.

Yeah, and you can't. But surprisingly, there's no one above us who does a regular show. I'm amazed. So if we're actually talking about human beings live, talking about something, anything, no matter what it is, we get more superchats than anyone else. Like literally more than video game players, Minecrafters, PUBG. We are the top. And so I checked and triple checked this. And yeah.

And then I actually found out. This is crazy. In terms of viewership, we are the 12th highest viewed show on the Internet. Higher than H3. So, Tim, you probably know by now this is a stick-up. Now you tell him. So there's a bunch of – look at this. We got, you know, like Pat McAfee. You've got Tim the Tatman.

A bunch of people above us. H3 just below us. And PUBG Mobile down. I'm bringing this up just to say thank you to everybody. I didn't really think about, like, the size of the show or what this meant. Like, being number 12 on YouTube is big. And being the most super chatted show. Dude, you guys are making all of this possible.

And I really, really appreciate it. And I also thought it was just really funny because now all of your support gets to put us on a list of all these sexy anime waifus. If you want to be number one, Tim, you've got to put on lingerie and play Minecraft. That's the strategy right there. You know what we were thinking of doing? ASMR.

Making a sexy anime chicken waifu and then have an automated Minecraft, but we'll just have emote buttons on a stream deck to where when a creeper comes, the chicken goes like, and then when the chicken dies or loses something, it goes, and then we just make a stream

where it's funny. Tim, are you a gamer? I guess. I don't know. Maybe. What was the last game you played? The last game I played? I play Spelunky 2 to an absurd degree. I used to play World of Warcraft a lot, mostly a long time ago. I played Hearthstone a lot.

I have a bunch of Magic the Gathering cards. I played Destiny a lot, but I haven't been playing video games a whole lot recently. I mean, I'm sure you're busy. Yeah, super busy, but I do get in Spelunky 2 every so often. Unlocked Seated Runs, finally. So now I can play around with set. You know what Spelunky is? Yeah, kind of.

Arcade game? It's a roguelike. It's super fun. It's a procedurally generated roguelike game. You get a jet bag. You fly around. You get a freeze blaster. I'm still playing Gwent and Witcher 3.

I didn't like Witcher 3. I didn't. I tried playing it. Really? Yeah, I was like, eh, man. I didn't like it the first time around. I really liked it the second time. You know what really bummed me out is Fallout 4.

Really? Good game, but Fallout 3 was magic, man. I have to get into the Fallout games. Fallout 3 was a magical experience. I'm pretty basic. I like Call of Duty and Battlefield. So before you go on to the Super Chats, I just have to, once again, Tim, thank you for having me on to do the list. I mean, it wasn't obviously the craziest list, but given the topics that we've discussed, it's very precious to have this.

Just to keep it real, what happened was we all had a company meeting, and we were sweating bullets, panicking. We were like, Siraj is going to put us on the list. What do we do? Let's butter him up. Let's bring him on the show. Well, I am here and I can actually physically take all of your phones. I saw someone mention they didn't know I played Hearthstone.

I play it all the time. I usually just play the Tavern Brawl, though. I used to actually play. I think the highest rank I ever got might have been like five or something. It was a long time ago. There's 25 ranks. But I can't remember. I could be wrong.

Maybe five is a little too generous. But I used to be really into playing the competitive tournament stuff. And then eventually I just got, I'm over it. I don't got time to structure these decks. You know what really made me not want to play Hearthstone anymore? Do you know what it is? No. It's the World of Warcraft card game.

Okay. A whole lot of fun. It's really simple. The reason I don't want to play it is because you have to manually drag to open booster packs to get cards. And I have like 900 or like 1,000 boosters. It's just a chore. It would take me like 20 hours. You would get carpal tunnel. You'd get carpal tunnel.

And so people say you can just mash the space bar on a computer and I'm like, yeah, but man, I'm not going to sit there and just do it. And then what happens is I don't have enough cards to – you can craft rare cards, certain ones. You can earn certain ones. And so I do all of the solo quest stuff. I earn like all of the legendary stuff that you can get. But then I'm like, look, man, I've got like 1,000 boosters. If I were to open them all, I'd have all these great cards. I could make a great deck.

You can't buy cards. So I'm not going to sit here and do work for this. Give me a button where I can press give me the cards. Yo, if they allowed me to just buy the cards, I'd spend a ton of money playing the game. You might be able to get video video take gameplay footage of you opening them and then just if you get a legendary and you see like

whoa! I got an idea. Upload it. Numbers only. I got an idea. What? You know those little bird things that like go back

and then go down? Remember Homer Simpson? Yep. When he was pressing the I'm going to do that on the space bar and it'll just like boop

and I'll let him roll and open all my packs. I bet just an hour video of you opening packs would be great behind the scenes. I don't have an hour. Behind the scenes content. Just sitting here smashing the space bar.

People would love to watch that. And just you talking about the cards and stuff on the website. I think you'd be surprised how many people would love that. Yeah, probably. Maybe we need a gaming channel. Let's read some super chats. What do we got? All right.

We got a super chat here. I can't see your name because YouTube just blocks it for some reason. It says, Tim, I got my Howard springs shirt today to add to my cast collection i dig it step on snack is next keep them coming smash the like and spin the ufo so i was surprised we we made the step on snack and find out shirt with the cute little snake on it now people are saying they want uh they want toddler clothes someone super chatted yeah we have that one right here and so we're like okay like yeah little baby clothes that step on so i can find out people were like we want more colors we want women the craziest thing is out of all of the shirts we have this one sold in like a month

over 2 000 shirts dang that's crazy there's something special about snack he's so cute well we combined two memes that's why it was funny you know and it worked it worked a whole lot we have another new shirt it's lu Luke riding an eagle with a waving a flag it says I tested positive for freedom and he's flying the gas flag it's not

it's not wrong correct yeah alright let's see Matt H says Tim and Siraj my tweet dream came true Merry Christmas all and Merry Christmas to you

Matt H yes Camel of the Mojave says insurrection when people who don't push the narrative are upset but just another day when at the kavanaugh debacle dealing with feminists doing the exact same things and worse you drop the mask yeah but they didn't break into the supreme court you know they were just

banging on the door trying to break in right oh no they did get into one of the congressional buildings remember with jan 6 no no no during the uh kavanaugh hearings yeah the feminists all got into the like the senate building and they're like man they shut it down but that happened so often i mean this is pre-covid yeah yeah it was you know everybody you know it was the real was the real insurrection oh yeah don't say that all right and the platform audrey uh what like what what is it what's true right yeah yeah what do you mean oh no it's just like a culmination of buzzwords though

audrey yeah covid took over our country yeah i think it's basically yeah i agree audrey danielle says philly just announced vax pass for kids and adults i'm phl organizer for lp mises caucus we're protesting around new year's parade let us know if you in philly or know someone down to protest at lpmc philly on twitter i am no longer in we are no longer in the philly area and we got out basically for this reason we weren't in philly we're in the suburbs but i was just like i think it was last august we were we were trying to get a bigger headquarters. And then we, and then once COVID happened and the lockdowns were getting crazy and they were actually telling us not to leave our houses. I was like, dude, get out of here. That's crazy. No, but it really was crazy where we were, we had a backyard that we could win a

mini ramp and we could skate. So I was like, all right, this is not so bad. We're not cooped up in a box, but they were like, do not leave your house unless you absolutely have to. And nobody was outside. And so I was just like, let's leave your house unless you absolutely have to. Nobody was outside. I was just like, let's just leave. Let's just get out of here. You see what's happening in Australia, which is obviously, I know you've been talking about it quite often and how terrible it is. How much

money do you think Clara Lehman from Quillette is making from the Australian government to be like, oh, everything's great here? None. No, I think she's avoiding prison. You think? She's tweeting under duress? Yeah, absolutely. But I don't think they went to her

and said, Claire, you must do as you're told. I believe that she was just like, if I say the wrong thing, they show up to my house. They say, why are you posting these things on social media? They shut her company down, and then she's destitute. And then she finds herself in a concentration case. In Australia, they passed the law where the authorities could come to your house, literally take away your phone, and tweet and send out and alter messages on social media as you. So you're saying Australia is taking your job.

They took my job. This is outsourcing. Hold on. I want you to imagine. What if, you know, because everyone said Claire Lehman's lost her mind because she used to be like intellectual dark weapon libertarian. Right. What if she's just like, you know, cuffed in a prison cell? I mean, there's some like big fat Australian guy going, I'm going to tweet at this here Tim Pool guy.

You're an idiot. And then Claire's like, no, you're besmirching my good name. Could be. I mean, that would explain a lot. Yeah. Absolutely. That's the only explanation. They have laws on the books like that.

I mean, I'll try to put her on the list, but it looks like the list already got to her. I have a friend who lives in Australia, and I was talking to her about how things are going. And she just told me that it's an open-air prison. And I was just like, that's weird. Yeah, but she was like, I went out to the middle of nowhere to get away from it. There was another story about a woman, that Haley Hodgson woman. She said she was living, where was she living? Like in Sydney or Melbourne or something?

I think so. And she went to Darwin to get to the middle of nowhere to get away from all the lockdown stuff. And the cops came to her house and were like, we're taking you without due process to a camp. Now, James Lindsay posted this. What is the defining factor of a concentration camp feature? You know what it is? When you are taken by government authorities without due process to a camp, that's how the Holocaust Museum defines concentration camp.

Interesting. And that's quite literally what they're doing in Australia. Those crazy conspiracy theorists over the Holocaust Museum, what do they know about concentration camps? Oh oh they must be right about this one all right all right how do you say this recra morson lemniscate says step on snack baby and toddler clothes yes yes i actually texted let's do it we're gonna get those chaotic says when i see talk of civil war in america it's talked as if it'll only be America's problem. Who's to say the globalists won't call in favors from other countries?

I don't want my country fighting against American freedom. I can't remember who pointed this out. It might have been Jack Murphy. Maybe not. That in all of these conflicts, there's always foreign intervention. The American Revolution, you had foreign intervention. You had the French come in and aid. And that was effectively a revolt in the colonies.

The French come in, assist the Americans. Americans are – they win. China is going to be assisting the blue-haired LGBTQ liberal people in major cities, airdropping them. China locking arm in arm with Antifa. Yeah, that's what TikTok is. Christian, the based burrito, says, my friend is in the Air Force and told to get supplies. He told me the situation with Ukraine is far worse than the media is telling us and said the U.S. is on the verge of an economic collapse. I wouldn't be surprised.

Looking at that spike in inflation, we knew that when they kept printing money, the bill would come due. The issue is people don't realize there's a delayed reaction. They can print all the money, then they spend it. But imagine it like this. There's a lake, a bunch of houses around it. And then someone drops in just like 20,000 or 200,000 gallons of water into it. Boom. The water doesn't instantly hit all the houses. The wave starts coming.

You can see it coming and then it hits your house. So we're at the point now where that inflation spike is us looking at the wave off in the distance going, yo, there's a tsunami coming. So what do you do? Well, me, I got crypto, you know, buying equipment for the business, trying to expand and get as much going on infrastructure-wise as possible as fast as I can, spending that paycheck as soon as I get it. But that's not a long-term solution. I think we just have to – I don't know, man. I'm not going to give anybody financial advice on this one.

I'm just going to say I got crypto. I feel pretty comfortable. I got some silver, some gold, and some crypto. There's also a lot of movement of military hardware near the Ukrainian border, which is worrying. That has just happened within a few hours. Russian stuff? Yes. It's not looking too good.

Wathik says, Chris Wallace moved to CNN. Next day, CNN producer arrested. One has to wonder what motivated Wallace to go to CNN at this stage. Fox won't miss him. That's right. They won't. Money, money. Yep.

Do you guys know how much he got offered? I think someone commented, like, this is one of the first instances. Again, this is not me saying I saw this online. It was a very harsh critique of him saying that this is a first instance of a rat going towards a sinking ship. I forgot who tweeted that. Wow, that's a good one they went after him oh my god sumner robertson says if interest rates rise to five percent fed would have to finance 1.5 trillion with inflation at 14.9 using cpi prior to boskin interest rates need to be at 20%. That would cost $6 trillion per year.

Fed will either default on debt or hyperinflate. Oh, I hope you are ready for this, man. I was telling this story last year when I went on Amazon and I went to buy a tablet for work, and it was like 500 bucks, and I clicked it, and then I forgot to check out. It's like something happened. I just left Amazon open. I came back later, and there was a 500 bucks and i clicked it and then i forgot to check out it's like something happened i just left amazon open i came back later and there was a box that said like we've updated items in your cart the price went up to like 637 or something like in that span of time they raised the price that much on electronics wow and it was like a day or two or something oh yeah yeah i don't think i don't think people realize what it means when you have this level of lying about the economy.

But I'll tell you, these elites are like – they've already got their bunkers in New Zealand. Just watching a documentary on the Great Depression, I was really, really awestruck at how the media of the time kept telling people the economy is fine up until like the day before the crash. The crash was like a two-week process too of people just slowly selling off and selling off and selling off and realizing this isn't going to go back up and selling and selling but man the media just lied the whole time yep and then immediately changed their position after after a crash immediately this super chat was-oh ian just made the list huh the p list yeah no he takes list all right public news choice says spend everything borrow everything didn't tim dillon make this mistake did he is it something i have no idea no idea

bruno bronoski says don't forget what happened last time the Republicans believed all lives matter and the Democrats said, No, those aren't people. Isn't that interesting? What was that, like 2014? No, no, no, Civil War. War. Slavery. Yeah, sorry.

Oh, whoa. Wow, you're on the list. Yeah. Sorry. When you were developing the list. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Sorry. When you were developing the list, did it come from a time that you yourself tweeted something out and realized? No, no, no, no. So, well, I mean, for the first month of the list, I was always on it.

And it was a daily thing. But what started it was George Conway quote tweeting his wife, Kellyanne, who is still in the White House. This is December 2019. So, yeah, the list is two years old now. It's entering its terrible twos. Basically, this was during the Trump impeachment, the first Trump impeachment inquiry, and Kellyanne

Conway tweeted out something along the lines of dunking on Joe Biden, saying we need Ukraine's help to beat this guy. And George Conway quote tweeted her saying, your boss apparently thought so. And at that point, I was like, dunking on your wife in public, in the public domain, public forum, not cool. I need to take your phone away. And that's just kind of how it was all created.

We should do a skit where it's like the victims of the list have all had their phones taken away. And there's like a black market smuggling ring bringing phones to them. So I have a running bit every single time an account gets suspended that has been on the list. I take credit for it. Someone from got axed by Twitter. I was like, the list works. All right.

Unvaccinated soldier says, Luke, I'm bringing a bunch of your spicy merch to New York on Saturday. Wish me luck and I'll see you in the gulag. Yeah, I'll see you in the gulags too. Won't be that bad. I mean, we're in an open air one. Just not really. Hold on.

You know, I was thinking about it and I was like, you know, I'm sitting here in good company. And I was just like, if the communists take over and we all get sent to the gulag, it's going to be a good time with all our friends. Yeah. We'll be breaking rocks. Hey, finally we have a reunion. That's right. I think that's a great tagline.

You could be the most popular person in the gulag with the bestpoliticalshirts.com on you being the talk of the gulag. And maybe I'll finally be on time for Habibi Power Hour. So here's the good news. All of the fans of this show will be in the gulag,

and all of the guests from this show will be in the gulag. Yeah, live shows. Live tapings. Live shows. We won't tape them. They'll literally be sitting in the live audience where we're all wearing our jumpsuits. After the 12 hours of Breaking Rocks,

we'll have Tim Casta-Iroa still be there. And we'll just be there super gaunt and skin and bones. And they could do that thing that they did at Occupy Wall Street where they echo the people's mic. Or they tap on the wall. That's what they did in Vietnam. If you ever wanted to attend a live showing of the Tidcast IRL podcast, just go to your local gulag. Just wait a few months and express the wrong political thinking. And by the way, thank you so much for supporting me.

T-shirts are a great way to get the message out, especially when the messages are being censored on big tech social media platforms. So thank you so much for doing so. All right. Jack Attack says, I've become a constitutional libertarian. I don't care if you are black, white, Indian, gay, straight, pan. Everyone should have the ability to buy an M1 Abrams. Vote for the corpse of Abe Lincoln and be left alone.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Pretty much. Yeah, it was funny when Ian asked Carrie Lake about whether or not people can own nukes or rocket launchers. Because I was like, I think they should. I think they should be allowed to own nukes.

The right to bear arms, that's kind of a debate we've had ongoing. Like, at what level of armament do you want people to have the right to own nuclear weapons nuclear no it's about you have a right yeah like the constitution says arms nuclear arms our arms i'm not comfortable giving citizens nuclear weapons what doesn't matter what you're comfortable with you're asking me the muslim where would you where would you cut off the exploditure of your arm you You're talking bombs with Muslims.

So here's my point. Second Amendment says the right to keep in bare arms. Yeah, I'm very pro-Second Amendment. Nuclear arms. Look, we're entering a slippery slope. It's easy. No, no, no. Hold on.

Well, obviously the answer is yes, but then I'm going to abuse it or my people will abuse it and they'll be like, no more nukes. No, not me. Not ever. I had someone tweet at me and they were like, I said something about gun rights and then these people just don't know anything about the establishment left types that live in Wally World. This guy tweets at me and he's like, oh yeah, Tim, so you're saying you're cool with the Black Panthers marching

around California armed with AR-15s and I said, abso-effing-lutely. And then he responded based like did you think i was against that dude it's good yeah just like going uh you know after the calvin house verdict you had uh people were protesting the verdict and then you had uh you had a i remember a father-daughter duo carrying uh open open carrying assault rifles and they're both black with with uh chamber flags in them yes and wait is that good about i'm sorry chamber flag chamber flags block the chamber so

that people can see it can't be uh armed oh okay all right sorry you know i love guns but i'm a leatherette so yeah but they were walking around with them yeah and i you know that's great and i think it was uh jenkyuger who said like if, if a black teenager went with a gun and was being attacked and you think the right wingers would defend him and all of the right was like, yes. But it was the meme of like the bearded guy. The Chad. Yeah. Yes. All right.

Like, yeah, yeah, absolutely. In fact, they would become a star even faster than Kyle Rittenhouse. And the weird thing is Kyle Rittenhouse said he supported Black Lives Matter and he was actually rendering aid to the rioters. This is true. Kyle Rittenhouse is on video giving medical attention to the rioters themselves. There's no reason for them to have assumed he wasn't there assisting them just because he was like, guys, don't be violent. I've seen liberals at riots be like, please slow down. Please stop.

Don't do that. It's making us look bad. So Kyle Rittenhouse helping everybody? Rosenbaum created that whole situation. Oh, for sure, for sure. But the issue is, I wonder, even if it was a black teenager, would they have been like it was a white supremacist? Like they call, you know, Candace Owens a white supremacist.

A black face for white supremacy. Yeah, Larry Elder. All right. Winsome Sears. Yeah. The Jaded Kriegsman says, Most crimes we need a Norwegian-style system for with preventing recidivism as the primary goal.

For the most heinous crimes, like rape, murder, and treason, get Russian-style prison. See Black Dolphin. No, you know what I like? I think they have, like, a murderer island in Norway or something. They just put all of the most serious violent offenders on an island and then said, you know, you're on your own. Good luck. And there's like cabins and stuff and they get food.

But apparently what's happened is they've all kind of chilled out, these very violent, serious criminals, because they have to focus on survival now. So they still aren't being left completely destitute. But I could be wrong. I read a story somewhere, you know, online talking about how they decided to put them on an island, and it's like they have to work for their own fire, work for their food and stuff, and now it's like kind of helpful. Sounds like Hunger Games.

Except they don't give them weapons. Yeah. They make them fist fight. I mean, anything can become a weapon. All right. Patrick Hoey says, I was against the death penalty until a criminal law case in law school.

The two defendants were found guilty of kidnapping a 10-year-old girl, keeping her alive for a week as they tortured and committed atrocities. Some animals need to be put down. Man, here's the issue I have. If you come to me with definitive evidence of guys being like, this is what they did. Here's proof they did it. And it's beyond a reasonable doubt. It's beyond even a factual question. Literally, you watch it happen.

I'm like, through due process, I can understand being like, you are too dangerous to keep locked up. Are you saying what I think you're saying, Temple? But. Pearl Woodchipper? No to to go to the senate and try and kill the chancellor because you think he's too dangerous to be left alive because he did not see that no no but uh what i'll say is the when you look at these when you look at these cases and they're like, here's what we know.

They did this. I'm like, yes, I'm very much in favor of these people facing the death penalty. Now, here's the problem. When it comes to me entering a courtroom and there's two guys standing there in chains and the prosecutor looks at me and goes, I dare say these two men took this young girl. I'll be like, I didn't see it happen. I dare you. You want me to kill those guys dude look if i'm in a room and they're walking towards a girl with a blowtorch

and i have a weapon i will defend that child's life and i will use lethal force to do so but if i'm sitting in a courtroom and they're like sign off on this paper that says we kill them i'll be like you don't have to sign you don't have to do any of the sentencing stuff as the juror fortunately you would just have to say if you think he did it or not. No. And then it's up to the judge. When they say the death penalty is on the table for this crime, you're saying you want me to sign off on a death penalty ruling and the judge is going to say yes? I'm not going to give that to the state because, look, beyond a reasonable doubt doesn't just mean there's a yes or a no question in a lot of court cases.

It could be like someone committed a very light crime and it seems like they may have done it. Like a dude had a, you know, had too much pot on him or something. And it's like, yeah, the evidence does seem like he probably did it, but I'm not 100% convinced it's worth ruining his life over. So I'm gonna say not guilty. Then there could be someone who's like found standing over the body of a little girl with a knife. And I'm like, now this is a different question to be on a reasonable doubt because we've got you know evidence that he probably did it and so in this instance i'm like he probably you know yeah released from prison for the second time it's

and he's found over the body of a girl here's the second time a guy who's found with too much pot they're gonna be like you're gonna get six months in in jail and i'm like the worst case scenario is if i get this wrong the dude who's innocent is gonna suffer it's my fault i don't like that so i'd probably say not guilty but if there was something i thought was bad enough and he's going to go to jail he's not going to be killed if anything you should be prosecuting the officers who arrested that person with pot by saying why didn't you ask him for any i will say right yeah you guys should watch uh the life of david gale awesome movie i guess people don't really like it that much didn't really get great ratings or whatever but it's about a guy a a school professor is falsely accused of raping a student and then

finds himself for another issue it destroys his life then he finds himself on death row and there's a mystery to unravel like you know what happened but it's a really good movie that involves a death penalty politics you know false accusations and stuff i But it's a really good movie that involves a death penalty, politics, false accusations and stuff. I thought it was a great movie. Kevin Spacey. He plays the professor accused of rape. Oh, God. Wow.

It's an old movie. Come on. Who did he study for that? Himself? Self-study. He knew how to play that character. Or still. He wasn't in character. Alright. JmanB says, Tim, I'd still, he wasn't in character. All right. J-Man B says, Tim, I'd love to see you play Hearthstone on stream. It would be a nice break from having to cover the downfall of Western civilization.

I actually – I told you. I did have a few Hearthstone live streams a few years ago. I think they're gone now. But, man, back in the day, back in the day. Were they on the TimCast channel? Yeah, it was on the TimCast channel. I was just hanging out.

I was like, I have a channel because I'm bored. I've been watching a lot of Trump, Hearthstone, and what's his name? Kriparian? Kriparian? Is that his name? Yeah. Hearthstone? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

There's good chip rounds and stuff. What if Trump became a gamer? That'd be great, right? That would be amazing to watch him play. He was actually really good at stuff. Yeah. He's like, I'll take you on. Grand Theft Auto V.

Let's go. Let's go. He'd be like, I'll take you on. Grand Theft Auto V, let's go. Could you imagine Trump playing Magic the Gathering? There's like a 12-year-old boy playing Magic the Gathering. I'll counter it. I'll counter it again. Trump's old, so he'd be like, I'm going to play the Black Lotus. And then I'll play... What are you going to play?

A Black Lotus. And then I'll play... You've got to play the Forest, right? For the channel Fireball. Is it Forest and Lotus or is it Mountain and Lotus? No, you're going to Mountain and Lotus. Mountain and Lotus. Because you need two green from the Lotus.

Yeah, and so then you do the Lotus. He's like, I'll do the Lotus for three green. And then I'll tap the Mountain for one red. I'll use channel. I'll use 19 life points. And then I'm going to cast Fireball for 20. First turn win. Noob.

I love it. And the little kid's going to gonna be like those cards are old and they're banned anyway no they restricted you wrong learn the rules that's not actually a trump impersonation that's me impersonating seamus impersonation yeah yeah all right so we read that one let's see uh we'll reach a couple more here a couple more here what do we got patrick guile says so tim a murderer breaks into the house kills everyone inside and you have a gun and shot do you let him go or take his life okay wait so so you're saying that everyone's already like been like killed and he's standing there incapacitated because if that's the case yeah i

would tie him up and be like okay now the cops need to come and deal with this so you need to understand that too about self-defense like you're not going to get get like if there's like a guy who breaks into a house and like kills a family and then trips and falls and hits his head and is laying on the ground going like he's like bleeding out and then you walk over to him and go self-defense yeah the government like the cops and the prosecutors are going to be like dude you you just walked over the guy and killed him. Like, that's not self-defense. You were not in danger.

It's so interesting that if someone's about to kill your four family members, you can kill them in self-defense. But if they already killed your four family members, you can't kill them anymore. Well, that makes perfect sense. Probably because over history, vindication crimes have been so proliferative where people go, retribution, like days later, served cold, you know, retribution. Someone said in the chat, self-defense is the death penalty, Tim.

If you have someone who's in a steel cage, you can't leave, there is no threat to you or anyone else. If someone's trying to release him and maybe like, you know, the Joker shows up with a helicopter and fires an rpg and blows the prison up in there and that's a risk then maybe you could be like they're too dangerous

or maybe if the chancellor is the sith lord we've been looking for maybe the justification being like we have to do something but you see the problem was if mace windu just went to the proper channels then anakin would not have betrayed the jedi council and the senator could have been stopped by the jedi council well, he is the Senate, remember? Right, yeah. Yeah, that is tough, but the idea that you think you can go in and take this judge-jury executioner upon yourself, I'm just not a fan of that.

I don't think it works. I don't think it works. If you've got someone who's incapacitated, and they can't harm anybody because you locked them up and they're subdued. But they're siphoning the system. If they sit in prison for their whole life, they cost, I don't know, $40,000 a year or something to host a prison? It costs money to use the death penalty on people.

I think it's like $120,000. So that's like three years of prison. What is it called, $40,000 for a prisoner or something? I don't like all these people sitting in there that are just going to come out of prison, commit the crime, and go back to prison. Of all the people that I thought would be pro-death penalty, Ian definitely didn't come across as one. Here's the problem.

How many innocent people are you willing to kill to enforce the death penalty, Ian? None. But innocent people get convicted all the time. Not majority, but if 1%, if 0.1%. This is why we need a minority report. Let's say 0.1% of people convicted are innocent. Let's say 0.1% This is why we need minority reporting. Would you be, okay, let me say this. Let's say 0.1%

of people convicted are innocent. Let's say 0.01, all right? Would you put 10,000 people through lethal injection knowing that one of those people

is innocent? Damn, man. Okay, so 10,000 violent murderers that are like killing children every time

and they have mustaches they throw. And they go, I'll kill again if you release me. I'll be honest. Yeah. There were 10,000 murderers, villains that were destroying society. And I had to kill one person to get rid of them. No, no, no. I didn't say that.

I said put on through the death penalty lethal injection, meaning they're in prison already. They're subdued. They're detained. And they're in the bars going, release me and I'll kill again! And there's one guy going, stop, please, I'm innocent. I didn't kill those people. Don't kill me, please.

That's a tough one. It's situational. Otto von Bismarck said, it is better that 10 innocent people suffer than one guilty person escape. I don't like those odds. I don't like any of the odds. I want you to look into the eyes

of the innocent person and say i don't care if you're innocent i'm going to kill you and that is insane well the people that i i really support death penalty is like is repeat offenders people that get out of prison do the same violent crime go back to prison come out again do the same violent crime like if if someone's innocent they're not going to be in that pattern because if they're coming out of prison and then committing the crime again they're not innocent i want to read one more because i do think it's a really great conversation i think people make good points but i want to counter them sarah roberts says people who are found with evidence guilty of atrocities against children are the one case where i do

support the death penalty those are the people that cannot be rehabilitated or redeemed and i will say to a certain extent like i would agree with that but the problem is how will you ever know the state is correct when they present someone to you and say this person was found doing x it's it's for me to to say you want me to believe beyond a reasonable doubt this person did this thing okay what's the ramifications if i get it wrong you kill him or like or like what's ramifications if i get it wrong i may kill an innocent person i'm not going to be party to that yeah i can't i can't you can't take that risk especially with uh state prosecutors like camille harris out there absolutely not yeah

especially when you recall now yeah i was just about to say with kyle rittenhouse you know you you get prosecutors who are not in it for justice they're in it for a quota a career exactly to a career advancement there's a real argument that one of the prosecutors tampered with evidence to try and convict kyle rittenhouse and he was looking at life in prison over this imagine if these prosecutors were willing to go even further with the manipulation of evidence imagine if they were trying to say your honor we want to add the death penalty because we uncovered audio of kyle rittenhouse saying he was planning on doing it and that he was you know and he did a bunch of things that pushed it too aggravated, you know, whatever. And they try to kill him. Like, dude,

we know Kyle Rittenhouse was acting in self-defense because we had seven different witnesses on the show. We watched all the videos and it was beyond a reasonable doubt. The problem with, in this scenario, if we were wrong about Kyle and he really was this cold blooded murderer, well, the worst case scenario is he's going to about Kyle and he really was this cold blooded murderer, well, the worst case scenario is he's going to go home and it probably will never happen again. He, cause the scenario we saw, the information we had was he may have gone to this riot, but he doesn't seem like, even if it was, you know, if we, if we were wrong about it, it's going to happen again. It was the circumstances around it, but we all, we all believe that we were correct. It was in self-defense. And it was. The prosecutors did not care. They didn't care. They lie. They manipulate. They cheat. They steal.

The police will lie to protect the state. They will lie to defend their own departments. They will lie to defend their partners. And a lot of people on the right woke up watching Kyle Rittenhouse go through the ringer because they were just like, the evidence was so clear. The witnesses were so clear. The video of the dude saying witnesses were so clear the video of the dude saying to shoot him the video of him chasing and then what they do they come up with this bs evidence and they say there he is pointing the gun and it's like yo they are lying right if this dude kyle renounce could have gone to prison for the rest of his life over these lies there have been kamala harris she knew she had evidence office did, that someone in prison was innocent.

I think on death row, right, Luke? Was it the guy on death row? I don't remember. We have to fact check that one. But there was a number of incidences. I'll just put it this way. I'll just put it this way. I understand that people are saying if you know, like you literally watch someone do it, you'd be like death penalty for you.

But what if Kamala Harris comes to you and she says, I'm telling you, this guy was found with the evidence. Would you take her word for it and execute that guy? I'd say, get out of my face. I'm not doing it. So until I can trust the state with definitive proof or evidence, there are some circumstances where I'm like, okay, I get it. But for the most part, I don't. Anyway, I don't want to go too long. So we'll say this, follow the show at TimCast IRL on all platforms. Smash the like button. Subscribe to this channel.

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Cooper came within hours of execution. She didn't want to allow DNA testing to get him exonerated. But she tried to kill that guy. That's wild. She tried to kill an innocent man. I want to say real quick. Sorry, just because there's two things. Super chats. John Hoyle says Tim makes the false argument that the innocent in prison are of greater

value than the innocent victims of crime in society. It doesn't matter if you are in prison. If you have not been convicted of a crime, you are innocent. If you are in society and someone attacks you, you are innocent. I will not differentiate between the murderers. I don't care if it's the state committing the murder or a psychopathic serial killer committing the murder. Murdering the innocent is wrong.

So I think the issue people have is they're operating under the assumption that the person in the prison is guilty and that they are psychic and have enough knowledge and ego to know definitively, or that they say, I don't care if there is a chance he's innocent.

If there is a one, I can't do it. If there's a 1% chance this person's innocent, that means out of 100 executions, you'd be killing one innocent person. I'm not gonna be standing at the pearly gates. And when they look at me and say, now I understand you were killing all these people. What part of thou shalt not kill did you not understand?

But these were bad people. So it was in self-defense. And they're gonna be like, okay, I understand that. But this guy was innocent. Well, I thought he was a bad guy. I was convinced he was a bad guy. Nah, I'm not playing that game. That's not an excuse.

Well, you're going to have to follow me at IanCrossland.net for more. Good plug. Catch you later. Thank you guys for tuning in tonight for this really fun episode, going through the list. I always enjoy the list i always enjoy yes thank you so much all for having me all the takes are ridiculous and it's only getting worse i'm looking forward to the burning of it yeah we gotta do a 2021 wrap because there are a lot of bad ones that new year special yeah all of them hey whenever you want to have 100 lists live i usually do top

69 oh and then is there like a 420 quick shout out, honorable mentions? I mean, that's a lot. I probably will have to hire some more interns and then fire them. 4.2 names. All right. All right. Seraj, it's been a blast. We're going to go over to TimCast.com for that members only

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