Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #430 - NBC Settles Lawsuit With Nick Sandmann w/Shane Cashman & Olivia Rondeau
Episode Date: December 18, 2021Tim, Luke, and Lydia join journalist Olivia Rondeau and Timcast author and podcaster Shane Cashman to break down Nick Sandmann's settlement with NBC, the MSNBC host who thinks Ron DeSantis has 'codifi...ed white supremacy' with his new anti-woke curriculum bill, De Blasio's declaration that people can be motivated to get the vaccine - if their paycheck depends on it, and the monkeys who are currently throwing hundreds of dogs off rooftops in India in a bizarre story. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Man, it's been crazy, huh?
Yesterday was pretty wild.
Everybody's yelling at me.
It's great.
We got people tweeting up a storm.
For those that didn't hear, we got pretty heated in the members segment.
Man, it was – so yesterday we had Ari the Rugged Man and we worked it out.
We hugged it out.
We got heated.
There was some yelling.
There was some standing up and slapping stuff.
And that was all in the members segment.
A lot of people just did not understand what happened.
They thought it was on YouTube and it got deleted.
It was never on YouTube.
It was on timcast.com.
And that was the biggest member segment we've ever had.
And I mean like a hundred times bigger
than anything we've had before, which is crazy.
It's bigger than Alex Jones and it overloaded our site.
But it was crazy.
And we'll talk a little bit about that in the show today.
But I don't
like getting carried away into the drama stuff but i do think there's so much misinformation
already about what happened and we should talk about how we felt about how things were going
like what was going through our minds and stuff as uh things got pretty heated but i mean i i don't
know i didn't think i didn't even really think it was that big of a deal. I was like, man, wow, crazy.
But apparently a lot of people like Daily Dot wrote this ridiculously fake article.
And there's something really interesting about what the Daily Dot wrote.
They wrote that I called RA a racist prick.
And then they go on to say that Tim Pool is white.
And I thought about that.
And I'm like, if I'm a quarter Korean, two generations of mixed race families, but I am definitively factually white.
And I'm like, that would be a really interesting precedent for their ideology as it pertains to all mixed race people.
You know what I mean?
But we'll talk more about this.
The bigger news is that Nick Sandman settled his defamation suit with NBC for a confidential sum, which sounds like it's probably a decent amount of money.
Might not be as big as many people think, but we'll take a look at that.
We got President Biden apparently calling Kamala Harris President Harris.
Again, we got MSNBC saying Ron DeSantis' anti-woke bill is codifying white supremacy
or some other stupid trash.
You know, man, it's Friday.
How about we just chill, have a good time?
We got a bunch of people hanging out. We're hanging out with Olivia Rondo. How's it going, man? I we just chill have a good time we got a bunch of
people hanging out we're hanging out with olivia rondo how's it going man i'm so happy you got to
pull up your mic and talk up okay okay there we go i'm so happy to be back perfect so what do you
do who are you um i'm olivia rondo i'm a journalist and i consider myself to you gotta get the mic
real okay right up i'm turning you up. Journalist and liberty activist.
You may have seen me...
I'll sound lady to the line.
He's signaling to me.
There we go.
Recently I've been on Kennedy on Fox Business
a lot. You may have seen me on there or
an HBO talk show called Pause with
Sam Jay. I was also on there this year.
Perfect. Sweet.
Thanks for coming.
Thank you.
You were here before, too, though.
We got Shane Cashman.
What's up?
I'm the writer and host of Tales from the Inverted World.
We just put out our first book, Volume 1,
Close Contact with Ghosts, Simulation Theory.
Look at that.
That's a book.
Go down a lot of rabbit holes, look at a lot of weird stuff.
It was fun.
I'm happy to have it out.
You can go to invertedworldbook.com and get your copy right now.
Pretty stoked to have it out.
This is – someone messaged me and they were like, wow, congratulations on starting a publishing house.
And I was like, I don't know.
Is that what it is?
We are now.
Surprise.
Right.
I was like, hey, Shane, can you make a book?
You're like, yeah.
I'm like, all right.
Then we have a book.
Boom.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then there's Luke.
And surprise.
It's Luke. I'm still here. Luke. And then there's Luke. And surprise. Ah, it's Luke.
I'm still here.
Luke apologized to me a couple times.
I was like, because people don't understand.
I knew Ari for a number of years now, and I'm like, this would be a great opportunity
for everyone to come together and to talk.
And I thought it was going to go a lot different than it would.
And yeah, it was a little crazy.
I know I did talk about starting a fight club at the house,
but that kind of escalated really quickly.
It was a joke, actually.
It was a joke.
Luke was talking about bringing a personal trainer for people.
Yeah.
No, I did.
No, no, no, I did.
I hired a jiu-jitsu trainer for the house.
It's in the latest vlog.
You can actually watch our latest kind of exercise.
Everyone in the house was participating in. We're going to be doing this weekly
and now practicing and studying
jujitsu in the house. Not because
of what happened last night, but because this was
an initiative that we talked about doing for a
very long time. Now we're doing it, so I'm very excited
about that. I'm already working on I'm Not
That Guy merch.
Sarcastically, obviously.
But anyway, today's merch that I'm wearing right now is, I would say, right on the nose.
If you get it, you get it.
Some people will not understand it, but if you will, it sends a very strong political
message and you can get yours on thebestpoliticalshirts.com.
And when you do, you support me.
Thanks so much for having me.
And yeah, that was wild last night.
It was like Thanksgiving dinner.
It was.
Usually at my house.
It was.
I thought it was a really,
really good show.
I think what people don't realize
is you got to have people
who disagree with you.
You can't just.
Of course.
And not everybody's going to
articulate the way you,
it's not going to be some like
too smart people,
you know,
or intellect,
intelligentsia types
just sitting there being like,
well,
I humbly disagree.
Like sometimes like people
just saying you're wrong. I disagree. I think think you're dumb i think you're a liar this
this way things going do you think he'll walk away and question how he acted yesterday and
like think differently about his uh his perception of the world i don't know i don't know i hope so
i do i i i look man i think he's racist you know but we'll talk about this because we got a segment
that talks a little bit we got a couple segments actually talking about this and i'll just i'll just say one thing
on this before we get started it was weird to me that my stance was when i was little my family got
my family home was was attacked by white supremacists and he the guy who's supposed to
be opposing racism was was the one laughing about that and saying so what i don't care so i'm like
you really don't care like how is it that i'm the guy saying white
supremacists are bad and he was the one laughing saying you know what i mean but we disagree we
disagree and that's that's that's fine i don't got any beef you know i disagree with them anyway
lady is here yeah i'm also here it is true that you have to meet people where they are and they're
not always going to articulate in the way that you would like them to i do love that we're able to
bring people on and have these challenging conversations because i don't know that people
believe that people really think this and people like him do so it's worth uh
learning about and continuing to grapple with don't forget as shane mentioned you can go to
inverted world book.com and pick up your copy of timcast media's first book first of many shane's
already got plans and working on the next book which is amazing and i think the next one's going
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If you want to see
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in the episode yesterday,
which, you know,
everybody was going nuts about.
I was trending on Twitter. It was nuts.
That's the latest members
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You can check it out and think for yourself.
Decide for yourself how you feel about it.
That was the biggest members only segment
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subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. Let's talk about this first story.
Ah, the media. The fake news. Nick Sandman settles defamation suit with NBC for confidential sum.
Another slanted liberal news outlet has felt the sting of justice, according to Newsbusters.
In a Friday evening tweet from the defamed man himself, former Covington High School
student Nicholas Sandman announced that he had settled his defamation suit with NBC News
for an undisclosed amount of money. With little fanfare, Sandman posted
the tweet reading, at this time I would like to release that NBC and I have reached a settlement
the terms are confidential. Sandman sued NBC for over
$250 million.
I do not think he got anywhere near that,
but I certainly think this kid is going to be pretty comfortable.
Now, I bring this up, and that's the gist of this story.
Many of us know the history of Nick, Sandman, and the Covington kids,
but I want to wrap this back into kind of the current situation
around what happened on this show and everything and just say, you know, when I'm having a conversation with someone and they're obstinate but their worldview is based on media lies, you need to look at the Nick Salmon case.
You need to look at the Jussie Smollett case.
You need to look at Russiagate.
And you can start to understand why these people are trapped in this broken worldview that makes no sense.
Or even the Iraq war or the banker bailout. I mean, there's so many things that the corporate media spread lies about
that were completely, absolutely not true at all.
So this Sandman case is a very important case because this is his third win.
He has six lawsuits in total.
One of the first major wins was, of course, against CNN
that now I think should have a reputation of hurting children.
I think there's an epidemic literally going on of CNN hurting children in so many unspeakable ways.
Veritas released the name, too.
Yes, yes, yes.
And there's a number of producers. claims that CNN was hiring this first producer that did unspeakable things to children for over a year,
knowing that the FBI had data on him that he was doing very illegal things to children.
Again, family-friendly show here, so we're not going to be talking about that.
But again, CNN, there's an epidemic going around, and it's not good for children.
Well, CNN has two producers, but they're two high level producers it was a guy
working with cuomo and a guy working with tapper that to me right away i'm not gonna come i wouldn't
i wouldn't say that's enough for me to be like clearly cnn is a gigantic you know crazy but i
would be like i think it's time to actually do a deep investigation maybe maybe subpoena some some
some devices because if you've got two in this short amount of time that just popped out, and they're both at the top level shows, I think CNN, I think the law enforcement, I want to start asking questions about who's working there, what they're doing.
Tim, two that we know about.
That's what I mean.
Don't we know about.
That's what I'm saying.
Get in there.
And then I was making a reference to, of course, Sandman, because Sandman also sued CNN and won successfully after CNN also hurt him when he was a child.
Right.
So, again, I was being a little hyperbolic, a little sensationalistic there.
I'm happy to see Sandman get the settlement,
but I would kind of want to see like an apology from the outlets.
I want them to come out and be like, we broke your worldview,
we fractured reality, and we're taking a – but it'll never happen.
We lied.
We slandered a literal child.
We slandered a teenager for political propaganda purposes.
Here's some money on the side.
Yeah.
And only to him.
We're not going to get anything satisfactory.
The lie travels halfway around the world
before the truth can strap on his boots.
Yeah.
Because there's people still roaming the world
who believe in the false reality
from the beginning,
like the Rittenhouse thing.
I mean, that's, I believe,
what was the catalyst
for what happened last night.
For sure.
We had a dude here who was adamant in his belief about a false reality.
Yeah.
And it's crazy.
I mean, I think collectivism versus individualism plays a huge role in all of this stuff.
But I think, as I often say, it's not left versus right.
You know, it doesn't make sense.
Like Vosch, for instance, he had a segment with a decent take on what happened the other day.
But he called me a conservative and by nature then if you're conservative, you're racist.
And then I literally say abolish the police on the clip.
And he goes, thank you, Tim.
And I'm like, I don't understand how you could claim there's anything conservative about wanting to abolish the police, libertarian, anarchist or whatever.
But that's why I often say that what's really going on Which is exemplified by the Sandman thing
Is Sandman thing
There are the people who know
Who are discerning
Who are looking for facts and evidence
And there are the people who don't and just believe narratives
And so when it comes to Kyle Rittenhouse
They are still wrong to this day
When it came to Nick Sandman
Bill Maher came out a week
After the retractions
and said BS info.
And I was like,
Bill, you had a week?
He's getting sued too, isn't he?
Oh, I don't know.
Look, man, I like Bill Maher
because he pushes back on this stuff.
But it's like Bill Maher
is so close
to getting his head out of the sand.
He's so close, but he's not quite there.
I love seeing his audience be hesitant to clap sometimes.
Yeah.
It's one of the best things.
They're scared.
Not hesitant.
They're scared and terrified because sometimes he's not the best, but sometimes he drops a truth bomb that wakes everyone up being like, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
He's supposed to be telling us the narrative.
We're supposed to clap when the sign tells us to clap.
And they're like, is this acceptable?
And we're kind of looking around here because he does land some punches,
but a lot of the times he does a lot of bidding for the establishment.
If any one of these people just read, Bill Maher doesn't.
That's why when it came to critical race theory stuff,
Bill Maher was kind of like, well, if they're teaching kids this, that's bad.
If they're teaching that, then it's good.
And it's like, Bill, just read one article and you can say it's bad.
But what ends up happening is, you know, a big portion of what we end up fighting over,
especially yesterday, was critical race theory being banned in schools is stopping the teaching
of racism.
And it's like, that's not at all what any of us are upset about or worried about.
But that's what they hear on TV.
People like Bill Maher
who are supposed to be the opposition
regurgitate that talking point
from bad actors.
And then they think
we're the ones who are making it up.
When we, you know,
when it came to Kyle Rittenhouse,
that's what really kicked off everything
the other day.
I'm like,
we've had seven different witnesses
to what happened with Kyle Rittenhouse
on this show.
I do not base my opinions off of like a random Twitter video from some leftist progressive.
I want to see the people who were there telling me what happened.
And then we get that information, and I base my opinions off that.
But if you base your opinions off of how CNN framed it,
then you're going to be getting sued when you talk smack against people like Nick Sandman.
Absolutely.
And the facts matter here, and your words matter,
and that's why you should always be careful.
And if you make a mistake, you should issue a correction.
A lot of these newspapers, a lot of these news organizations
don't have anything holding them accountable.
They publish a retraction, maybe on page 17, maybe in the little byline.
But the buildup, especially when it came to the war in Iraq,
when it came to Russiagate, had huge impacts on our daily lives that impacted us negatively, that hurt people, that killed
people, that literally created some of the worst scenarios that destroyed any elements
of truth and honesty in our society.
And they were still never held responsible for a lot of those bigger lies.
So it's good to see on a personal level some accountability, but we still have to remember,
by and large, the corporate media has a long criminal past with some very disgusting behavior
that they still should be held responsible for, but they haven't.
I think, you know, Ian says this a lot.
He's not here tonight.
He's on vacation for the holidays.
He's on vacation.
But he says a lot of, all of this started breaking apart when 9-11 happened.
I think he's right.
I think, you know, after 9-11, you get the Patriot Act.
You get the Iraq War, the war in Afghanistan.
You got this matrix narrative that started – it just started changing things.
And then you get – I mean, to be completely honest, it may have actually even been the 2000 election, how contentious it was. But I think the authoritarianism that popped out after 9-11
really changed how we
live and work and view law enforcement
authorities. Then you get this
cultural back and forth.
It escalates to the point where we end up
with how social media, I talk about how social
media manipulation became a big prominent thing.
But I believe that there was a major
fracture in the timeline around 9-11.
9-11 brought in that fear that translated to political power for the intelligence agencies and the government secret agencies that profited off of it in so many different ways, whether it was insider trading.
I don't want to get into the nitty gritty.
I don't want to get into the details here.
But I would argue that what happened after 9-11 was trauma-based mind control.
Literally, people were shown thousands of people dying all at once and then blaming
other people in other countries who had nothing to do with it, saying, they did it.
They did it.
They killed your friends.
They killed your family members.
They could kill you next.
And they used that fear, that psychological warfare against the general public to say,
just give us a little bit of your rights.
Just give us a little bit of your rights. Just give us a little bit of your free privacy. And of course, it started with just reasonable
asks, and then it became more unreasonable, more crazy, more sinister, to the point where now the
NSA knows almost every little thing you do. They track, trace, and database your activities.
There's a secret social credit score that no one even wants to talk about. We're living in a
database now where you need government permission to go to the supermarket
in some places in the United States, and that is absolutely insane, draconian, and crazy.
And it all started, I would argue, some people would argue it started even way before that,
but I think the larger kind of snowball effect started on 9-11,
and it kept rolling in this kind of trajectory of just give up your rights for your greater good,
for the benefit of humanity.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
That's the biggest lie sold to people all throughout history.
And it always leads to tyranny.
And I think that's where we're at right now.
I talk about this a lot because imagine how it is for the Generation Z that have grown up after 9-11.
I'm going to date myself here.
I was eight months old on 9-11.
Okay.
So I grew up.
I didn't know a time before the Patriot Act. I didn't know a time before T up. I didn't know a time before the Patriot Act.
I didn't know a time before TSA.
I didn't know a time before Department of Homeland Security.
I grew up.
My dad worked for the Department of Homeland Security.
So I grew up just very comfortable with authoritarianism, with tyranny.
I didn't understand.
Even back before 9-11, you can walk up to the gate with your family to drop them off.
I thought that was a movie trope.
I didn't know that was an actual thing until I was, like, in at least middle school or high school and actually learned about TSA and 9-11.
And so I think we have to really target Zoomers because I'm a Zoomer.
I know how to talk to Zoomers and actually, like, really drill this into their minds because they don't even realize how comfortable with the government overreaching their life.
Like, they just don't even understand it.
It took a long time for me to understand it. And I still can't even understand it because i don't i don't
know what it was like before yeah but i can read about it and i can learn about it i could try to
educate myself about it but that's something we we really need to talk more about with the younger
generation i think this is what i've been saying about with the metaverse that the younger
generations like the kids born today are going to grow up into the metaverse and be like i don't
know a world without it like you're saying you don't know a world without it. Like you're saying, you don't know the world
before all this stuff.
That's what's going to happen.
They're doing it increment at a time.
These cronies, they stay in office for 60 years or whatever,
and then they implement that as generations move on.
50 years, people are going to be microchipped,
and they're going to be like,
I don't know a world without the Neuralink.
I've only ever known the metaverse.
The metaverse will be there for the next lockdown.
You don't need a high social credit score
to go to the supermarket?
You don't need to pledge your allegiance
to the corporate technocratic overlords
before buying your Snapple?
When they first locked everybody down,
when we were in New Jersey, they said, don't go outside
unless you absolutely have to.
And so, they weren't going to arrest you
or ticket you, but they were like stay-at-home orders.
So I had, in our backyard, we had big open space.
I put on the Oculus, and I went to,
they have a Google Maps app where you can go all over the place.
That's fun.
And the craziest thing was, you know where I went?
You know where I went when I put on those Oculus in New Jersey?
Your neighborhood?
Here.
Oh, here.
Yeah, I went here.
I went to Harper's Ferry.
And I crossed the bridge, and I was going going through the neighborhood and then we started trying to figure
out where to go and i was like let's go here so i was actually wearing the headset and you can like
look around on google maps and like move forward you click and you move forward and it was crazy
to me that everybody's i'm like everybody's locked in these cubicles and they're little
garbage little studios i bet tons of people have this and they use it to like calm down.
One of the craziest things about it and I think we're going here.
I'm sure a lot of you guys have the Oculus.
There's a theater mode where you put them on and you turn on a movie and it's a giant theater screen in front of you.
And you can move your head and there's a movie theater right in front of you when you're watching movies and the sound coming in your ears perfectly.
That's where we're going.
And it's going to be, they're doing
linked things now, like
experiences. You're going to be
sitting in your chair in your
200 square foot bachelor pad.
I need to correct you. You're going to be in your pod.
You're going to be in your pod.
This is like, I will not be in the pod. I will not
eat the bugs. I will not watch movies on the Oculus.
Are those the pods they're 3D printing in Switzerland?
Probably.
There's also a lot of pods.
Maybe.
Just ready to go.
Yeah, but you'll like, hey, guys, you want to go to the movies?
And you'll put on your Oculus.
You'll go into the metaverse.
And you'll be like watching Spider-Man with your friends sitting next to you.
And you'll look to your left and you'll see their little like carrot avatar.
And the guy in front of you is like a rabbit.
And the guy behind him is a duck.
And then someone's a caricature of Mickey Mouse or something.
I think a lot of people say The Matrix is a documentary for a very specific reason.
Because when you look at essentially what they're calling for, especially with the World Economic Forum, with a lot of very powerful globalists living in a pod,
being connected to the virtual world,
and then having bug paste and bug juice
and this artificially GMO-created paste given to you as artificial meat,
that's literally what was happening in the Matrix
with people in their little pods being used as bubbles,
being used as batteries,
literally being plugged into the virtual world.
And I think someone, probably someone like Top Gear Globalist,
either inspired the Matrix or saw the Matrix
and was like, I want that.
We're going to make that happen.
What a dream.
Yeah.
You'll have nothing in the real world,
but everything in the metaverse.
Exactly. You'll own nothing and you'll. Yeah. You'll have nothing in the real world, but everything in the metaverse. Exactly.
You'll own nothing and you'll be happy.
You'll have no privacy.
And that's essentially what they were calling for.
They deleted that article so people can't pull it up right now. But when you look at the article, when you look at a lot of their papers that they released,
they essentially write the blueprint for what could be described as the matrix,
as you living in a pod being their source of energy, their battery for their own personal enjoyment and benefit,
living in their world that they fully control.
And I feel like the first seed of that is media manipulation, right?
That's why we joke about how these people are in a cult.
They're in the Matrix.
Like, eventually they're going to be in the Matrix,
and they're going to gleefully clap and cheer as they enter it,
which people told us in the Super Chats that's actually Matrix canon.
In, I guess, the Animatrix, humans chose to enter the Matrix in exchange for a paradise, but then the robots were like, it doesn't work.
People don't want it, and then switched it up on them.
Whoa.
Let's talk about MSNBC.
Let's keep it going with the fake news.
We got this from Newsbusters, another story.
Insane.
MSNBC host thinks DeSantis wants to codify white
supremacy by banning critical race theory. MSNBC is known for its insane and vile commentary,
which occurs on almost daily basis. But this one might be the craziest comments this week.
During a segment on MSNBC's The Beat with Ari Melber, fill-in host Jason Johnson discussed
Governor Ron DeSantis, his support of a bill that would ban
critical race theory in public schools johnson claimed the proposed legislation titled stop
woke act is desantis's new effort to codify white supremacy for political gain what does white
supremacy mean see this was one of the the big issues that occurred one of the points of
contention for the episode we did with uh with ra rugged man, was that I don't think even he knows his own definition of white supremacy.
And a lot of people don't.
Typically, the cultural right believes white supremacy to mean
someone who believes they are genetically superior based on their race
or the ideology of that.
But the leftists, critical race theorists,
believe white supremacy literally just means dominant culture. So when the leftists, critical race theorists, believe white supremacy literally just means
dominant culture. So when the left says white supremacy, they're referring to the fact that
most people in this country are white. That's it. So they'll say things like, when they say,
you know, Hollywood is a white supremacist institution, what people on the right hear
is that they're accusing people in Hollywood of believing they're genetically superior based on race. What the left is saying is that it's an institution created by white people
that mostly benefits the majority, the largest, you know, race, like majority race in the country.
Because of this, you end up with stories like this. They make no sense. So when, so I would
argue this. If you take away the word white supremacy and replace it for what
they're actually saying and say that um jason johnson said the stop woke act is to sentence
his new effort to codify traditional american culture for political gain it's like oh yeah
maybe i mean sure i don't know it doesn't sound nearly as insane. Well, I think definitions matter here. And that's why in yesterday's interview, I was like, wait, what do you mean by this?
What is your understanding of this? Because I think there was a disconnect with what we thought the words mean.
And when it comes to the word white supremacy, it has been used and abused to such a silly level that I feel like in some instances it's losing its meaning. It's losing its power because it rained and MSNBC was freaking out saying it's white supremacy that caused it to rain.
I'm being fascist here, but they literally almost blame everything underneath the sun.
If you're going on nature hikes, that's white supremacy.
Going out in nature is white supremacy.
And I'm like, you're devaluing this word and this meaning. So for MSNBC to say this as hyperbolic as they are, it's like, okay, what are you really trying to say here?
Because you bastardized the language so much.
They're zombies.
Zombies and zombie lords.
I loved that conversation we had when Ian was here.
I was like, because NPC, zombie is kind of interchangeable.
And then I mentioned, well, some of these people know they're lying.
But I think the people at MSNBC who are saying this stuff are just mindlessly
repeating the words. But there are people who know they're changing the definition of the words to
manipulate people into joining their cult ideology. And so I asked, are zombies evil?
And I think Ian first said, no, he's like, no, no. They're neutral or whatever.
And then we looked up – or actually, no.
I think he said zombies are evil.
In the official Dungeons & Dragons, zombies are evil.
So even if you're mindless, like this is the perfect example of the banality of evil.
Mindlessly going along with evil.
I'm sorry.
That makes you evil.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Luke, you're totally right.
The definition changing and then they repeat the words that are. You know what I mean? Yeah. Luke, you're totally right. The definition changing and
then they repeat the words that are not
they don't mean anything anymore.
I'm calling this the death of language. That's how you
create multiple realities because there's a whole
group of people operating in certain definitions
and there's another group of people
operating in different definitions.
When the guy drove the car through the
people at the Christmas parade, we saw
a lot of tweets and headlines that was a car that drove through people.
The SUV.
You're killing language there.
It was an accident.
But if it was someone else who looked differently,
they would sensationalize that to make it very specific,
to make you afraid of that.
It's almost as if it's Orwellian.
It's almost as if we're going through double speak.
I've heard of that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I think that we could relate to that since, of course, even scientific definitions of herd immunity.
Vaccines are being changed right in front of our eyes when it meant something else previously before.
And I think the same thing is happening with white supremacy.
The word racist changed.
That went from being just prejudiced against somebody because of their race to being about powers and systems and oppression and prejudice.
And white people or black people can't be racist.
And white people are only they can only just have prejudice against.
Larry Elder, the black face of white supremacy.
Yeah, I mean, it just it has no meaning.
It's watered down.
And then but it's like crazy that these audiences either love that they're changing the definition or don't realize it.
But either way, it's the same end result.
And it's evil.
A couple of the issues, you know, and I got to say, like, we all really want to talk about what happened last night.
But it really was a good example of the culture war and what happens afterwards.
So one of the things that happened afterwards is Vosh.
We've had him on the show a couple of times.
He's made progress.
I have great respect. When he first came on the show a couple times. He's made progress. I have great respect.
When he first came on the show,
he called me far right.
Yesterday,
or maybe earlier today,
he called me a conservative.
So he's moving me
closer to the middle.
That's almost a liberal.
Almost.
I'm getting close
to being a centrist.
But he actually defended me.
He actually,
he made a really good point.
He said,
he said something like,
let's be real, guys. if this was any other mixed race person explaining they experience racism and a white person was
laughing in their face and insulting them you would be on that person's side but because it's
tim pool you want to be mad at him and i was like wow and then vosh wanted to say tim pool is a
conservative and then of course that means he's racist and And I was like, come on. Come on.
So close.
And then I go and then and then he plays.
He presses play.
And I go, I want to abolish the police.
And he goes, thank you, Tim.
And I'm like, bro, the problem is everybody shared one small clip.
So the narrative becomes something untethered to reality.
If any one of these people would just actually take their heads out of the sand and consume media to better understand it, then a lot of this might stop happening. But the other issue
is when it came to the actual conversation with RA, many of these people don't agree that he is
being racist because in their new moral framework or lack thereof, white people are
allowed to insult people who are not white. And that's not racism so long as their ideology is
in line with the tribe or the cult. So when they say racist, what they're really saying is deviant.
They're saying you're a deviant. You're a deviant. So when I call him a deviant,
people go, no, he's not. He's perfectly in line with wokeness. So to them, they're hearing me basic, like they don't hear the word racist the way we
do.
When I say to him, you're a racist, I'm saying you literally said that you would judge someone
on based on the content.
You judge someone on the color of their skin.
To me, you're being racist when you discriminate against someone on their race.
To them, racist just means you are a deviant from our ideology.
If you were a media darling and Ari was in here with a MAGA hat and he accused you of
laughing at you, they would have said Tim Pool, Asian podcaster to make sure.
We all knew he's a victim.
Let me explain something.
One of the jokes that we make on the show every so often is that blonde-haired, blue-eyed
Luke Rutkowski is a person of color and literal
second generation mixed race tim pool is white i'm like i don't even know what is going on in
their brains like but but i think it's fair to say what they're really saying is deviant when
they say racist or white supremacist you brought up this point would you happen to have the old
definition and the new definition by any chance? Because I think I saw something online.
I don't know where to look for it.
Of the term racism.
Not the exact definition, but off the top of my head,
I believe it was something more along the lines of what we generally believe,
that it's just hate or prejudice because of somebody's race or skin color.
Now, I think at least one dictionary,
and just in many schools of thought like in academia you'll
see the definition be changed to it's uh it's like it's prejudice and prejudice plus power so
black people can't be racist because they could be prejudiced but they don't have power in today's
white supremacist racist system so black people therefore can't be racist and white people can't
be victims of racism because they have the power and the prejudice so they're just nothing nothing just comes at them and then luke isn't white because
slavic people experience oppression and asian people in america are white because they have
high incomes on average so they've turned white into an ideology it's a boogeyman well if you
look at history history is filled with oppression,
whether you're Chinese or Japanese or Korean or Polish.
You know, people have been screwed over historically,
but do you see people leveraging that
for their own kind of purposes or excuses?
To me, it's like thinking low of somebody,
and it's thinking low of
yourself and i think some of it is done deliberately this is just my perspective i might be wrong
someone might be might might be able to convince me that i'm wrong but but for me i think something
that really does oppress people is saying continually you're oppressed you're oppressed
you're oppressed and when you keep putting that into someone's mind, they create an identity that is oppressed,
that does believe that they have lack of opportunities.
And that kind of mindset, that kind of idea, that kind of larger consciousness that you're putting out there to your regular life,
that you're manifesting, that you're creating, is creating that of lack, of being the victim.
I want to chase this deviant idea, too, because there was something else that came up yesterday in the show
that exemplifies this.
When I was trying to explain
that this world is comprised of many people
with different worldviews,
R.A.'s response was,
I said, your worldview.
He said, yeah, reality.
And so here's what I think happens.
He believes he's in the moral majority.
He believes that his ideas are represented by most people or that he's on the side of good or whatever.
But a lot of these people don't seem to realize that when you have 80 million people voting one way and 80 million people voting the other, certainly there are two distinct perceptions or I should say overarching perceptions. So for me, when I started
getting into this work, and I mean, just doing journalism in general, I remember, I went out
during Occupy Wall Street, there was a pro-life rally at the federal building by Wall Street by
the by the stock exchange. And we went and we saw these people and we saw them waving their flags,
and I listened to what they said. And my attitude's always been like, if we're talking about helping
the working class, that means talking about helping the working class,
that means recognizing that half the working class
are conservative and half are left or whatever.
And that means we really need to understand
where people are in general,
not just one side of things.
But too many of these people think
99% of the country is them
and there's this weird deviant group of people.
So when they say you're a racist,
they're saying you are not in line with the moral majority, which is us.
Our ideology is correct.
And then when I try and point something out, like there are 80 million people who roll the other direction from you and don't agree with you, they just – they say that's not true.
They don't believe it.
They reject that.
Or they say, well, those people are wrong and crazy or grifters or liars. And it's like that's why you'll often hear people say that the right thinks the left is misguided, but the left thinks the right is evil.
I think it's starting to change now with many on the right, many.
And the funny thing, too, is the right is not just right wing.
It's also comprised of the center.
Like if you actually look at Pew's research on this, which is hilarious, the stressed sideline, they call it, apolitical individuals lean right.
And it's because the left has gone off the rails. When you look at that Axios poll we looked at last week that shows young Democrats are overwhelmingly antagonistic based on politics
and not conservatives, we can see whatever is happening, it's happening as an effect of
modern left culture or whatever. And I think it's working brilliantly to the benefit of the special interests
that really kind of pull the strings,
that really kind of set the news stories,
that set the agenda,
that set the narrative.
Because let's call a spade a spade here.
There's a lot of things
you and RA agreed on.
There's so many things
that the government does
that you weren't happy about.
I know, I know.
But hold on.
Let me just get to this point.
There's so many things you guys had in common,
especially with your visions and your ideas and your beliefs
and things that you went through that was outside of the established narrative.
But on this point, it brought you two guys towards a very tense, angry moment between each other.
That's how powerful and divisive a lot of this stuff is,
where even if you could see eye to eye on a lot of stuff, you still each other that's crazy amount of power and division uh-uh i gotta stop you there
bro when ra says to me you think you've got it worse than black people in this country and i go
and i said no i agree with you i actually did work on the subject and then he says it again
three times i'm like bro i don't know how many times I need to tell you. I agree with you on that.
But for him to just be like, no one is allowed to talk about racism because of the black struggle.
I'm like, this dude you cannot reason with.
I literally tell him, you are correct.
I agree with you.
Critical race theory should not be banned in schools.
It's just the practice of it.
It was OK.
All right.
How many times does he need to say something?
He goes, y'all called Kyle Rittenhouse a hero. And I said, we never did that. And he went, okay, okay. I'm like, how many times do I
need to reach out and say, I agree with you. I agree with you. I agree with you. But he didn't,
he, he, it's like, it's, it's not, it's, it's, it's, that's why I'm saying it's about being a
deviant. It's about not being in line with our orthodoxy. So that's what they're calling you.
Yes. By and large, what, what I was saying, you said it more eloquently and a lot better than I did because, again, there was terms of agreement, but it still led to confrontation, which to me is mind-boggling of how they are able to control the narrative in a way where it still leads to no understanding and a fighting.
And that, to me, deserves to be pointed out.
But listen, I think we all understood him.
I think we were all analytical
as to think like,
we analyzed the things
he had been saying.
He talks about news in a way
where he didn't understand things.
He was talking about
how we didn't know
what critical race theory was.
And I gave him
just a very generalized,
here's one of the authors,
here's what they've stated,
here's what they believe.
Because I read this stuff.
And full disclosure,
when we had Vosh on the first time, I was miserable in trying to break
down what critical race theory was.
And I think Vosh made a great point when he was like, you don't know what you're talking
about.
And I said, well, my view of it is the cultural like wokeness and stuff.
But you know what?
I absolutely owned up to that and said, it's a good point.
I should not use a phrase that I have not read the literature on.
So I pulled up the book from Kimberly Crenshaw and I started reading. Did not read the whole thing.
I read it. I read the first few bits of it to understand the origins of it. I read quotes and
comments from Derrick Bell. I read some D'Angelo and some Ibram X. Kendi, and I'm still not going
to pretend to be an expert. But for someone to come in here, say these things, and for me to be
like, which of these authors do you agree with? And him to be like, I don't know. I have no idea. I don't know anything about it. I'm like, okay, here's a
problem. If I'm going to tell you that there's a lot of the stuff we agree on, but no matter how
much we try to come to you, to your side and say, we want to rectify this, you still just say,
you guys are racists. You guys are white supremacists. You are bootlickers.
There is no
there is no coming together there's no compromise there's no resolving this bridge
i'll just stress this point again when i'm literally like you're you are right and i agree
with you and the response from the other side is i don't care screw you you're a lying piece of
crap i'm just like all right that's it it. The divide is real, and it's very strong.
I'm trying to stay positive.
I met a lady.
But I was going to ask, is there anything that could bridge this divide?
Is there anything possible?
I think so.
I met a lady yesterday, total stranger in her 70s, a nice lady.
We agreed on books and music, and we were there looking at some stuff,
and there was another gentleman there who I don't really know, but she knew,
and she pulled me to the side and said he's an anti-vaxxer.
And I was like, oh, everyone can do whatever they want i'm okay and i didn't mind and she kept trying to get politics out of me and she was trying to like find labels and how
to like pigeonhole me next right and then uh 30 minutes later she says i wish every republican
would drop dead just like that and she was totally It was normal. Like she could say it to a stranger.
And I'm like, well, that's a horrible thing to say.
And I was like, I think you are putting labels on too many people.
And you're hearing certain words like, you know, he didn't want the vaccines.
Now he's all these things.
Maybe he's racist in your mind, a MAGA supporter, whatever.
And I'm like, if you just take the labels away and talk to people about the real problems,
you'll probably agree on lots of things like what Tim and RA were talking about and then she was like
you know I did have an hour-long conversation with this man he was very nice but once he said
the vaccine thing all the alarms went off in her head that she would hear the buzzwords on CNN
and I think if you start to strip away labels like that's why that when I see words like woke
I hate words like that I'm so sick of words like that because it automatically makes anyone who agrees with woke stuff and who doesn't agree with it want to fight about it.
Just strip away those stupid words, I think.
I think we use too many bad words like cancel culture and woke.
There's a compulsive need to label people, though.
People try to do the same thing to me all the time.
And even when they find out what I believe in, there's still no label to put on it so then they get even more frustrated but i need to know i think it's getting
worse actually the compulsive need to label people but i need to know like how do we combat that like
how do we change the messaging to where to the point where people don't feel the need to be like
hey like what do you believe about that and then immediately assume your political party or assume
everything else it's like gang members it's like are you a blood you're a crip dude i really luke luke and i we went to the peace wall in northern ireland and i really
recommend people go to belfast and look at the peace wall it it it will be a shock to your system
and i mentioned this a lot when i went there when we were there and there's like on one side it's
pro-israel the other side is pro-palestine and i was just i was confused and i asked this guy who
was there i was like i don't understand like what is what is the the the
irish conflict had to do with israel and palestine and the dude said whatever whatever idea one side
adopts the other side takes the opposite stance yeah it's just tribalism and it's and it's neighbors
living next to each other with huge walls dividing them, literally neighbors rioting and fighting each other to the point where they're killing each other.
And they're neighbors.
They live in the same kind of country.
They kind of have the same identity.
They have a different kind of religious point of view.
But that divide is so strong and crazy where they literally burn effigies of other people's belief systems and representatives in celebration in defiance of
the other side so that was a surreal experience to see um that larger kind of some people call
it a festival that literally leads to marches and fights and riots in northern ireland which
was absolutely crazy to and that's to see and experience myself that's just one small area
relative to the rest of the world.
And this kind of thing is gripping the entire US. Like you saying the lady said she wished Republicans would all just drop dead. Look, I think there's a lot of really great things to
focus on in terms of freedom. Gun rights are being strengthened. But there's also,
I'm not trying to be a downer. I do think that freedom and individualism is actually gaining a lot of ground in a lot of different ways.
But I also think the hyperpolarization is becoming more and more enraged.
Like the way – the story as you explained it.
People are just getting angry like, I don't care.
I just hate.
And that's scary.
She's a victim of the corporate press.
They've fed her fear. but it's more than that too
one of the things that R.I. said at the beginning of the show
is that
he said something to the effect of
all these media outlets are extremely divisive
and we're doing the exact same thing here on this show
and I said you're right
I agree, we talk about that
when we see MSNBC say that, you know,
Ron DeSantis is codifying white supremacy or whatever garbage. And then we criticize them.
And Newsbuster says they're known for insane, vile commentary and all that stuff. Yeah,
we're sitting here with a bunch of people listening and they're going to be like,
I don't like MSNBC and what they do. And then we're going to get people who are only going to
take small clips of this show and then do the counter of saying, look at what they're saying. They're vile, racist or whatever. And all it does is create
echo chambers where everyone hates each other more and more and more. I suppose the one difference is
one side is objectively correct. And that side is whatever this side is. And it's not the right.
It's not libertarian. It's just literally there are people who are right and people who are wrong.
And if you look at the Jesse Smollett story, the Covington kids, Nick Sandman stuff,
you look at Kyle Rittenhouse, you look at Russiagate.
Did I say Russiagate?
You look at Ukrainegate, two impeachments.
Wow, one side is objectively wrong all the time.
What do I get criticism for?
Bad predictions.
Bad predictions are different from factual errors.
If I see the stock market doing really, really well and then say,
I think Donald Trump's going to nail this election and then COVID happens and he doesn't, that's just me not
realizing a pandemic was going to happen. But when you say Donald Trump colluded with Russia
and he literally did not, or you claim these kids were getting in the face of a Native American and
they literally did not, you live in a twisted, malformed, decayed reality. And then if you become hateful and vile and angry
or violent because of it, yeah, one side is dangerous. And when you have a horde of angry
zombies, how do you deal with it? That's a good question. I'm running to the woods. I'm going
deep in the woods. Yeah. That's literally what I did. I left New York City, went to the middle
of the woods of New Hampshire, joined the Free State Project. But is there anything that could help? And again, I made this
argument. I don't think we should call them zombies because there are
people who could go back from that state, from that state of watching the corporate media
to waking up. Zombies you can't bring back to life. When it comes
to corporate media heads who watch the fear-based mind control,
people could come back
from that um people could come to an understanding and say hey i could see that so i don't think we
should call them zombies because i think that kind of furthers the divide but but let's just call
them zombies for now is there anything bringing them back to life and is there anything that
could heal the divide do you guys but but i think when i say zombie i'm referring to the people who
are totally zombified i think there's some people that you just can't bring back no matter how you try to reason with them, no matter what type of facts you put in front of them, as was demonstrated.
I mean, you can agree with something, everything that they're saying, basically, and they're still going to call you a white supremacist, racist, based off of these new made-up definitions and terms.
And they could literally be a white person sitting here yelling at you that – I've had white people call me I'm anti-black and that I'm racist and that I hate myself and I have internalized racism and misogyny and all those types of stuff.
And I can sit here and look at them and laugh at them and be like – and just ask them to explain themselves and they can't.
It's just because, like Tim said, it's just – I like the word deviant.
It's just because I'm deviant.
But there is a political transformation.
There is a political change, and it happens in some people, even Tucker Carlson.
Tucker Carlson. But it goes both ways. Pro-estab political change, and it happens in some people, even Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson, pro-establishment,
of course, pro-establishment,
pro-war, CNN,
MSNBC, toting the line,
repeating the speeches.
Now he criticizes the Republicans,
criticizes the Democrats, criticizes
the intelligence agencies, and does something
that... Agrees with Glenn Greenwald?
Yeah! Has Glenn Greenwald
on his show and...
And that's big for Glenn Greenwald too.
And Tulsi Gabbard on his show all the time and rages against the kind of intelligence state.
It's a new political faction.
So some people would consider him a zombie that has turned a zombie lord to someone who has come back to life and is now helping people awaken from this zombiness.
There's an article that Daily Dot wrote about what happened here.
And it was just like, it's crazy how they just don't watch the show.
They don't care to get the facts straight.
But one of the things they point out was in the clip, I highlighted a documentary I did on Ferguson.
And, you know, the black community was going through with going on tour and racism.
And they said, but Tim Pool failed to mention that he made that before his politics did
a 180.
So let's assess that real quick.
If I literally pull up a documentary I made seven years ago and say, I completely agree
with this message for the documentary that I put together seven years ago, how have my
politics changed?
If I'm literally like, this exemplifies my view on systemic
racism? Quite literally, it's the same political opinion as when the documentary was made.
And I'll tell you this too. They wanted me to say a line in that documentary I did not say.
They wanted me, the final line of the documentary was that the police of St. Louis were created by and the descendants of slave catcher patrols.
And I was like, that's a little too much, guys.
And it's not necessarily untrue in some contexts, but it's mostly not true.
There are some police departments where they started as slave catching.
And then most police departments, and I looked all this up,
they were just ideas and institutions
that were were adopted from i think france and other european countries that we decided to
implement here as we expanded sheriff's department and law enforcement so i'm like that goes too far
that's what they wanted in it so my politics haven't changed on this but it's really interesting
because what that means is this group of people revolt like they they they
they moved around me so here i am in this position on the left and the establishment media moves to
the left where i stay in the same position and now they're like look he spun a 180 and i'm like yo
it's you guys who wrapped all the way around the other direction how is it that i'm gonna defend
this and you're gonna claim i disagree with it they move so far left that you look far right
and and i haven't gone i haven't moved anywhere i'm always just like hey it's wrong to be racist Offend this and you're going to claim I disagree with it. They move so far left that you look far right.
And I haven't moved anywhere.
I'm always just like, hey, it's wrong to be racist.
Yeah.
Like, I don't know.
I have to.
I got to say, this is why I'm really pessimistic.
At the end of the member segment, I said, I think racism will never go away.
And it was because of people like R.A.
It was because he is a white guy who claims white people are privileged, who thinks he's justified as a white man to tell minorities what to do and laugh at them when people talk
about their problems or experiences of racism. He laughs in their face. And I was like, why would
that go away? So this is a guy who, in every respect, 100 years ago probably would have been a white
supremacist.
100 years ago, this country was overwhelmingly white supremacist.
And now, today, many people have adopted the more civil rights view and have become more
accepting and more understanding.
And he's still of the mindset.
And it's not just him.
I don't mean to single him out.
It's the woke that they, as the white savior, the privileged race, has the right to determine what minorities should be doing.
And I'm like, what changed?
What about white supremacy has changed?
And these people are still doing it.
Yeah.
I think that's why it's important to be considerate of your virtues
and not just change on every issue based on your gang affiliation
or the level of political power you're going to gain for standing on this side
or acceptance from larger society.
I mean, I always, throughout my journalism career, always said,
okay, what are my virtues?
What do I represent?
What ideas am I going to go out there to the general public?
And to me, it was always anti-war, freedom, privacy,
the rights of individuals over the collective.
And I always stood on those virtues,
but I've been called a right-wing racist teabagger by Chris Matthews of MSNBC.
Sean Hannity, I'm sorry, not Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly said,
We Are Change is a jihad-loving leftist liberal organization.
And I got slandered for it, but my position has never changed.
When Obama was in power, I was called a conservative.
When Bush was in power, I was called a conservative. When Bush was in power,
I was called a liberal.
And again,
I don't believe in any
of that gang affiliation.
Your virtue should matter more.
Luke has one political position.
Freedom.
The government sucks.
Yes, absolutely.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
I'm all for that.
Abolish taxes.
All of them.
Immediately.
Give them it.
I'm in New York
where we have new mandates
now for the mask.
It's crazy.
And it's just like if you have kids and you love your kids, you hate your government if they try to get between you and your kids.
Exactly.
And they're trying to wear it.
I mean, they had like five-year-olds running around outside this summer, 90-degree weather, with the mask on.
I'm like, you guys are waterboarding these kids, basically.
So what is the option for New Yorkers?
Like, what do you do?
Leave.
Leave? I think most of them like it. You can't i think most of them let's in the city area like it let's pull up the story real quick to get some context here we have this from
timcast.com de blasio says people will be forced to accept covet vaccines if their quote paychecks
depend on it wow this dude was giving an interview and he basically said i will destroy your life to get you to do what we want you to do
and i was just like if you want to live in that city and you want to live under his boot and lick
it they like it feel free to do it if you want to leave if you want to call anything white supremacy
that's it right there if you look at the the vax mandates who it predominantly affects the the the
consequences of it especially in in New York City, especially
with people of color. Holy
freaking cow! His name is Wilhelm.
Yeah, right?
I just call him Bozo the Clown.
Should we call him Kaiser?
I am absolutely just
flabbergasted that he still
has any political power.
One of my favorite images of this year,
videos really, is him
alone in Times Square dancing with his wife. has any political power. My favorite image, one of my favorite images of this year, videos really, is him alone
in Times Square
dancing with his wife.
When everyone was not
allowed to be in there.
Everyone was told,
get away.
You're not allowed
to come to Times Square.
Only the special elites,
only the people
who give out the orders
will be celebrating
and dancing
in the middle of it
as the order followers
will kick everyone out. It was disgusting. Look at this. And the New York Times made that one in the middle of it as the order followers will kick everyone out.
It was disgusting.
Look at this.
And the New York Times made that one of the photos of the year that they were celebrating and toting as something great.
They didn't show Bill de Blasio dancing there by himself with his wife with police officers protecting them.
Meanwhile, the governor is a mass murderer.
They kicked out everyone from Times Square and then they had their private dance.
So you can have a little prom night.
That's cute.
It's cute, right?
That's so cute.
Listen.
I think I like your point that people with kids, people with families should leave.
There's really nothing that they could do.
I will not fault anybody for leaving if there's really nothing else they can do.
But I did write a piece for TimCast.
It was in August, I think.
It was called Here's How New Yorkers Can Fight Back Against Medical Mandates,
where I interviewed somebody from the New York Young Republican Club.
And they talked about basically how they're staging sit-ins and anti-mask protests and rallies.
And I think noncompliance is a truly American virtue.
I mean, it's what basically birthed this country and birthed this nation.
And I would hate to just have everyone retreat when I think there is a silent majority.
I think it's time for them to speak up.
And I know everyone's so tired of everyone saying, oh, silent majority, silent majority.
But I think it's a real thing.
And I think people are scared.
And if you can afford to not leave and if you can afford to not comply, I think you should.
I totally agree.
Were they in the city?
Yep. Yeah. So that. Were they in the city?
Yep.
Yeah.
So that's a different... The city is a whole different world from the rest of New York.
I said this last time.
New York City is a little pea at the bottom of the state that kind of dictates the policy
for the rest of this giant state.
And they vote sometimes overwhelmingly red while the city votes blue.
I would hope for noncompliance if you can.
That's the way to go for sure.
Nonviolent civil disobedience. Yes. It's as simple as people just being like, no. Just say no. blue i would i would hope for non-compliance if you can that's the way to go for sure non-violent
civil disobedience yes it's as simple as people just being like no just say no and then we will
not comply it's like a perfect american phrase and it's just like we forgot about it or we
attribute it to like white supremacists or something ben shapiro did not forget daily
wire guys did not forget yeah that's like they're they're all their you know logo icons avatars or
whatever do not comply we will not comply. It's crazy how –
But they also retreated.
Like they left a state that was pretty dystopian like New York.
But it's good to say not comply.
But I also think sometimes those cities –
I don't blame them at all.
It's kind of an FU and it sends a message to the state.
I think it's kind of good in some sense because it does send a message
and I think that people are going to look at that and be like,
hey, we need to make a change or you know hey something's up some people
argue that you're voting with your feet right by staying in new york city you're paying their taxes
you're part of their workforce you're incentivizing people to say i will control every aspect of your
life and you will obey and you will live underneath my boot no i won't i'm gonna go to florida i'm
gonna go to new hampshire i'm gonna go to west virgin I'm going to go to New Hampshire. I'm going to go to West Virginia. I'm going to go to Texas. I'm going to go where my rights are respected,
where my money actually goes towards the greater good and doesn't go towards discriminating against
people, doesn't go towards giving people less opportunities because they didn't do a procedure
that a government bureaucrat wanted them to do. And it's sickening what's happening in New York
City. And there are some people standing up up there was recently a large number of people arrested because they went to
restaurants and they said hey um we're not going to comply with the whims of government we're not
going to ask the government permission and get their permission slip to eat here and they were
asked to leave they said no and they did sit-ins yeah cops came in they followed orders and they
arrested them how isn't this weird it's just it weird? It's just so weird that the way politics is evolving in this country.
I've always been on the side of businesses should grant access to public accommodation for members of the public.
But now it's crazy to see many people on the right arguing that.
You know what I mean?
Like before, it's's just i don't know
man i saw i saw a really crazy image of a uh building a vaccine warehouse being burned down
and someone on the right being like this is how you stick it to authoritarianism whatever and i'm
like bro that's an anti-patriotic i'm like what is going on i think that the difference there is
their anger is rooted in something that's really happening.
And sometimes Antifa are rioting.
They're rioting over manipulated realities, like inflated numbers of deaths, whatever.
I had a friend who would tell me thousands of black men die a year by cops.
And I'm like, I don't know if that's a number.
It's like 23.
I would show her the number.
She would say, well, the numbers are systemically racist.
And I was like, and then I'm racist for showing her the systemically racist oh my oh my goodness i had a friend and uh they were posting stuff about the migrant crisis
that was wrong so i took an i took the the refugee document from the un website sent her the link and
said hey just fyi what's going on here is X, Y, and Z.
The people coming from the, so there's three Mediterranean routes.
There's the Western, the Central, and the Eastern.
I don't think it's called Central, but there was three routes.
One goes through Spain, one goes from Libya through Italy,
and then one goes through Greece through Lesbos.
And I was just like, the people who are coming in through Greece are the refugees from Afghanistan and Iraq.
And the people who are coming from the Central and Western routes are economic migrants from Afghanistan and Iraq and the people who are coming from the central and western routes
are economic migrants from Nigeria
and other countries.
And then she just said,
screw you and blocked me.
And I was like,
I don't know what just happened.
She slapped your microphone.
I didn't insult her.
I didn't call her name.
I had one friend.
This was crazy.
Someone I talked to all the time.
We hung out a lot in New York
who told me that they now believed
in conversion therapy
because they... So this is crazy. Right, check this out. If you talk to someone on the left,
they will cheer when you hear someone say, you know, like Canada has banned conversion therapy.
They'll go like, yay. And I'm talking to this friend, she's a woman. And she was saying that
it was transphobic for people to not want to date people of the same sex if they were
transgender. And so I was like, all right, hold on. Let me, let me like, I'm trying to understand
you. So I was like, you're a woman and you're attracted to men. And she was like, yes. And I
said, so, so you're saying that you personally are attracted to bio, like people who are biologically
female, who have female genitalia, but have transitioned. And she said, no.
And I said, so do you think that's transphobic?
And she said, well, I could learn to like it.
And I said, isn't that conversion therapy?
That sounds like grooming.
Like changing – like trying to convert someone's sexuality.
And then she got really mad and said, no, you're being transphobic.
And I was like, I thought you were being transphobic.
I was like, all I did was genuinely ask. She blocked me.
But to be fair, she deleted all of our social media and said, I can't take this anymore.
And I think what really happened is, like, when we talk with RA, these are people who are on Facebook.
These are people who are on Twitter.
And they get a worldview bubble, a bubble world from the group they follow.
This is what people need to understand.
Who you follow on Twitter, if you're active on Twitter, is shaping your reality and it can be distorting it.
So they say like, so I follow a lot of conservative personalities, a lot of leftist and
liberal personalities. I follow Hassan. I follow Vosh. I follow a few other people. I don't want
to get anyone else dragged. They're famous, so I'll leave it there. But a few other lesser well-known
leftist journalists, as well as all the mainstream publications, Vice. And that way, I'm seeing what they're saying. I'm seeing
what people are saying. And I get a view of both groups. But a lot of these people, like this
former friend of mine, was probably only on Facebook in a group of friends who were all
regurgitating the same woke garbage. And then when I simply asked questions,
I think what really happened was she realized
the world she lived in on Facebook was not real,
and she couldn't take the pressure of it anymore and deleted it.
Scary.
I would even go further.
It's not who you follow.
It's who the big tech algorithms decide you see,
because now it doesn't even matter,
because they curate a lot of the timelines.
Twitter is still one of the few places where you actually see the people you actually follow.
But most social media.
But it's not just our personal well-being that's being affected here.
It's not just our mental health.
It's also our political discourse, which is being bastardized.
And I think the echo chambers that are created, the echo chambers that many people blindly follow because also, as you mentioned, Tim,
you try to get different perspectives,
but a lot of people don't.
A lot of people don't want to see different perspectives.
They want to see their perspective regurgitated to them
from different kind of points of view.
They also might not have time.
Reestablishing the same idea.
Reinforcing that idea.
I got to pull something up that's really funny.
But, you know, keep talking.
I think this is my crazy
wacky theory is facebook years ago remember that debate over if it's a blue dress or a gold dress
yeah that was us getting prepped for the fracturing of reality oh who believes what
and they're just back there they're judging who does what i should do a report i can't do it with
facebook and now i think i'm shadowed on instagram even when people do see my post half the time it
has that warning over it, like fact
checkers have deemed this false.
It'll be like the most mundane thing.
It's a badge of honor.
It's not even like crazy.
I saw something on Twitter earlier.
It was someone talking smack on vaccine mandates.
And right below it was a promoted Pfizer tweet.
Let me pull up this story for you guys.
Tim Pool confirmed leftist.
This is from ground.news blind spotter.
And it says 53% of the news Tim cast interact with on Twitter leans left.
Top three influencers are Vosh, Michael Malice and Jack Posobiec.
Perfectly balanced as all things should be.
Now, to be fair, the reason why it says most of the news I interact with leans left is because it's the New York Times, it's CNN, it's Newsweek.
These are mainstream news publications.
They lean left.
The media has a leftist bias or a liberal bias.
Michael Malice is slightly leaning left with a big, you know, right wing right there.
Vosh is overwhelmingly left and Jack is overwhelmingly right.
This right here is really fascinating.
First of all, I'm obviously not a leftist, but I think it's fair to say that on policy issues and certain issues, I am center
left, you know, libertarian, a little, you know, difference in opinion from Luke on some ways.
But when you look at Vosch, his worldview is comprised almost exclusively of leftist media.
Michael Malice's worldview is mixed between liberal and conservative media. And Jack Posobiec
is a little bit of liberal media, but mostly conservative media. This makes total sense based
on the way they interact with media, the things they believe, the things they say.
Why does Vosch think that the first time he came here, he said, Tim Pool, he told me to my face,
you're far right. Because the only media he interacts with is left media who make up,
you know, garbled nonsense about me. Now he says conservative. Why? Because he actually came here
and interacted with me. And now like he comes here and we agreed on a bunch of stuff. In fact,
when, when we had the Charlie Kirk and Vosh debate, I was actually met a lot of the stuff
he said. I was like, I agree with you. You're correct. That point is true. And these things
are true. And then a lot of people who followed him were like, oh, I didn't realize, you know,
they're like based Tim and things like that.
If these people just mixed up their news sources a little bit, got a healthier balance,
everyone might actually calm down. The problem is New York Times, CNN, Newsweek, my top three
sources, they lean left. So if Vosh is just watching MSNBC, CNN, reading the nation and all
that stuff, and it's overwhelmingly left media, then I don't know how you break someone out of that broken reality.
Can you put anyone's Twitter handle on there?
Yeah.
Want me to do you?
Yeah, yeah.
Luke, we are change.
Luke, we are change.
It's going to be like he's a crackpot conspiracy guy.
Look at that, Luke.
What?
44% left?
44% left.
Bro, it's because the New York Times.
Zero hedge. Zero hedge and hive. But it's because the New York Times. Zero hedge.
Zero hedge and hive.
But it's because the New York Times is a left-wing publication.
So when you, like, Ground News is a good job of this.
Look at that.
Thomas Massey, Glenn Greenwald, and Cernovich are your sources.
Glenn Greenwald is very left when it comes to the media.
Yeah.
And then you've got Cernovich, who's very balanced.
Interestingly, look how small the centrist is in Cernovich.
Massey's got a little bit bigger one.
Luke, you've got a 21% moderate.
Let's go back to mine because what was the percentage of moderate for me?
23% center.
But most of it leans left.
Why?
The mainstream press is a liberal media machine and this proves it.
Let's jump over to Vosch.
Look at this.
He only interacts with 64% left wing. The New York Times, the Daily Beast, and this proves it. Let's jump over to Vosh. Look at this. He only interacts with 64%
left wing, the New York Times, the Daily Beast, and AJC. What percent? I can't even see the percent
of right. Shu Unhead, Ken Klippenstein, and Hassan The Sun, all overwhelmingly left personalities.
So Vosh's worldview is inherently broken because he's not consuming media from other people. He's
in an echo chamber where he
hears what he wants to hear. And I mean, I mean, no disrespect. I, you know, I respect that he was,
he was actually being fair to a certain degree when he was talking about the RA thing. He,
like he said, if it was any other mixed race person complaining about racism,
you would be on their side, but because Tim pool, you don't like him. He is correct about that.
You know what I think? Vosh, I think is a smart guy. I think if he actually started adding in some non left-wing
news, even like some, well, he needs to mix in a little bit of conservative sources. He'd be like,
well, how, well, hold on. How, wait, this right-wing source says X, but the New York
Times says Y. Where's the, where's the break here? And I'll give you a really good example.
The Washington Examiner reports that the January 6th committee admits to doctoring the message from Jim Jordan to Mark
Meadows. That is a fact. What did the Independent report? Jim Jordan confirms he sent message to
Mark Meadows. The objective truth is the message was from Jim Jordan and it was altered.
Now, if you only read the left source, you probably don't know it was it was altered.
Really good example.
When we had Hunter Avalon on the show and he said Joe Biden didn't do anything wrong
with the quid pro quo and he didn't know anything about Victor Shokin and Lachevsky
and anything that happened with Burisma. And I did. Because
not only did I read the conservative outlets, the mainstream outlets, I literally read Ukrainian
news sources on what was going on. So if you have people like Vosh who only consume echo chamber
content, that's what you get. Shuanhet, look at this. Even Sh on head is 76. She's worse than Vosh. But she does have 13%, you know, conservative in there.
And she just interacts for the most part with people who are on the left.
This is really interesting.
Let's take a look at a conservative personality.
Jack Posobiec.
He's overwhelmingly right wing.
And he consumes media from people who are also overwhelmingly in the right wing sphere.
I think it's fair to say
you look at how people consume news and you can predict their viewpoints and how they view the
world. I think everybody, even Jack, should be reading a lot more of mainstream news sources.
Well, I say Jack should read more mainstream news sources because he's clearly getting more
right-wing sources. And Voss should read more right-wing and independent sources because he's
clearly getting nothing but mainstream sources. You should treat it like crossing the street you
don't only look right when you're crossing the street especially in New York City with the crazy
drivers that they have in there you look left and you look right before crossing the street and I
think you know that's a perspective that's gone for a lot of people a lot of people don't want
to face a different reality than the one that they're codified in that the one that they feel
safe in and a lot of people do feel safe by having their kind of political voices reinforced
their beliefs reinforced and i'm a big fan of just waking them up shocking them as much as you can
and having them wake up to the true reality of the world this is why i think ben right here we
have ben shapiro this is why i think ben shapiro is so smart, so quick, and why he's, like, his opinions are crafted by facts.
And he doesn't get everything right.
I don't agree with all of his opinions.
But you can see here from his ground news blind spotter, 38% of his news is left wing, 18% is moderate, and 44% is right wing.
It makes sense.
Ben's a conservative guy.
He follows people who are, you know, consumed middle of the road across the board.
Look at this.
Steve Miller, Redsties.
Healthy news diet in the middle.
These are the people that I think are doing a good job.
When Ben has a debate with someone like Malcolm Nance and he nails all of his facts and his opinions are crafted by those facts.
Well read.
Well read, right.
From good sourcing and mixing it up and trying to understand both sides.
I grew up with like 10 channels and my dad's like a centrist, leans right,
but he would always tell us like, you got to watch everything.
And I would always notice when he got into like friendly debates at Thanksgiving or something,
he would know the other person's argument if they happen to be on the other side
better than they knew his argument.
So he's arguing their point and his point,
and they're hearing things from him that are completely from another world to them.
It's even being able to be willing to have those conversations.
A lot of people are afraid of having those conversations.
They're prevented at having those conversations.
So even though yesterday was kind of a crap show,
the conversation at least happened.
People were kind of forced to have it.
And I think there's a layer of it too
that we could still salvage from the craziness,
some kind of understanding
from where other people are coming from.
And I think one of the biggest signs of intelligence
is being able to have an open mind.
If you're able to hear ideas that are critical of yours
without having an emotional reaction,
and then you could logically, critically think about them and assess the facts of the case very few people do
that they just want to be emotionally click baited into something that makes them feel nice look and
and reinforces their side let me tell you why brian stelter will never never be on par with ben
shapiro and this is a good example.
90% of what he interacts with as a media correspondent for CNN is left-wing media.
Oliver Darcy, who is a media correspondent for CNN, 85% left-wing content.
These are the guys who are supposed to be covering the right.
They don't even read it.
Reliable sources. The media show on CNN
is 99% left-wing
media.
They do not interact with
anyone but themselves. These
guys are sitting at the bottom of a well,
talking to each other about...
Actually, you know what? They're the people sitting in the
cave, the allegory of the cave, looking at the
shadows, thinking they know the world
and they're not interacting with it at all. So this something that i mentioned to olivia when i was driving her
over because i was like i don't want to argue with someone who doesn't understand what we're
talking about i want someone who's well read well informed someone who can change my perspective
because they know facts that i don't like talking about redlining and blockbusting that's stuff i
want to know about because that changes my view on stuff like systemic racism but it's very hard to find someone on the left maybe it's just because it's easier to
only read left-wing sources like what brian stelter apparently is doing i cannot believe
that these are the people that they choose to cover the media i forget who it was who was
advertising for a right-wing media like reporter i was like well as far as i know as far as these
people are telling me the right wing doesn't even exist. There is none. Yeah, I think there's also a debate to be had with
a lot of people on the left wanting to give handouts, wanting to help others so they don't
have to work towards something. Because when you have an idea that contradicts your viewpoint,
you have to work to combat it. And I think there's an aspect of people having the ability to be able to work.
And I think maybe that's why a lot of right-wingers are for work,
for having this kind of Protestant work ethic
compared to people who want to be the mother in our kind of larger society
and give people help and be their supportive role.
And I think a healthy society has a mother figure and a father figure
that has both kind of influence on people's lives so they get a fair perspective on it.
Because if you go too far in either direction, you're going to be in an unhealthy direction.
You're going to be unbalanced, and you're not going to be a person that's going to kind of fare well with the kind of rules and circumstances of our society.
So I want to pull up.
This is called Mediopoly from Ground News.
You can see 32% of the news Tim Pool interacts with on Twitter is media conglomerate owned.
Tim Pool is a slightly concentrated news diet.
So you can see 11% of the news I consume is independent, or I think it interacts with
mostly mainstream media, then private equity, then wealthy private owners, telecom companies
and other. I want to do this.
I'm going to pull up
Look at all this. Let me go back.
I'm going to pull up Luke We Are Change.
And I'm willing to bet
Luke has a... Here's my bet.
Luke's going to have a big independent media bubble.
What do you think, Luke? Probably. You think so? Yeah.
Not so much. Actually
smaller than mine by 1%.
You have wealthy private owners followed by media conglomerates and private equity.
But here's why I pulled this up.
What do you think is going to happen when I pull up Brian Stelter?
Let's find out.
Brian Stelter, media reporter for CNN.
He's overwhelmingly telecom companies.
Now, that's probably because CNN.
Because he's
within the CNN bubble. Reliable
sources, 96%
telecom. Oliver
Darcy, telecom.
These people live not only
in a bubble of leftism,
but they only really interact
probably with the news coming out of their own network,
which is full of garbage, and, as we can see, heavily biased.
So they're effectively – the way I described it with Jack Dorsey is that his worldview was shaped by gargling the sewage of his own platform.
He created a platform.
It had a negative effect on society, producing extreme activism.
He then consumed it all and came to believe the garbage
coming out of his own machine.
Stop it, man. You're giving me visuals here.
I'm literally doing that.
I think Jack Dorsey
has been unleashed.
I think he was constrained a bit by Twitter
being the CEO. Now that he's out,
the one thing he tweeted was
transitory in quotes. He tweeted that
Rothbard recently. I'm willing
to bet now that he's not there, he's going to give it some time.
He might come out and actually start blowing people's minds.
No joke. That'd be nice. Would be great.
I hit him up, actually.
He'd be great to interview.
I asked him if he wanted to come on the show and talk about his views
on blockchain and
the future of social media, and he said
at some point. That'd be
great. More than I can say for a be great. Well, he's huge.
More than I can say for a lot of other people.
He's huge into decentralized currencies.
And him tweeting out Rothbard is just a perfect example of people realizing the true power of decentralization
and understanding that if you try to control everything in life and centralize power,
you're creating real-life harm that translates to, of course, the natural stopping of human
progression. But Luke, we gotta get
real. We gotta get serious.
There is serious harm that may be
coming for all of us. And it's this story
right here. Group of monkeys kill
over 250 dogs for revenge
in Indian town. What if
they come for us? I'm just kidding.
Wasn't there a movie about this?
It's Friday night.
And we're gonna leave if they come for us? I'm just kidding. Wasn't there a movie about this? It's Friday night. Friday night.
And we're going to
leave on a...
This is not actually
a good note.
This is actually
a good note.
This is volume two
of our book.
I read the story
and I felt depressed.
Like, seriously,
it's sad.
What's happening?
Is there a video?
There's video of it.
Oh, my God.
Don't play it.
Group of monkeys.
I need to know what happened.
No, this is a video
of them rescuing a puppy from the monkey.
So look at this.
A group of monkeys in a small town in India took revenge on the local dog population by
throwing them off the top of buildings and trees.
It's reported the monkeys have killed about 250 pups in the process and are targeting
villagers.
The monkeys, located in Malagaon, India, started the rampage after some of the dogs allegedly
killed an infant monkey.
News 18 reported that when the monkey sees a dog approach, they catch them and throw them from a significant height to the ground.
In the neighboring village of Lavul, the monkeys have eradicated all of the dogs.
After all of the dogs were killed in the village, residents contacted Forest Department officials to catch the monkeys.
But when officials attempted to catch the monkeys, they were unable to capture a single monkey.
Villagers believe the monkeys
are taking revenge on the dogs.
Now villagers in Laval
are being chased by the monkeys.
Some have even been attacked.
Quote,
we've seen that when an individual
is attacked in some way,
the likelihood of them
attacking someone related
to their aggressor is higher.
Typically, there's a preference
for attacking a third party
associated with the original aggressor
as opposed to the actual aggressor.
For the most part, these acts of revenge take place shortly after the attack.
All right.
We got real serious throughout the previous segment of the show.
This one's actually kind of a messed up story, but at least we can wind down on a Friday night and get our minds out of that dark place and talk about monkeys.
The dogs are reading too much Brian Stelter.
The monkeys are.
Yeah, maybe the monkeys were. The dogs are reading too much Brian Stelter. Yeah, that's how it is. The monkeys are. Yeah, maybe the monkeys were.
The monkeys are.
The monkeys.
I was going to make a communist reference, but I should have.
I'm going to stop myself there.
The monkeys have been on Facebook reading about how dogs are evil, and they just wanted
all the dogs to drop dead, and they went out there and started throwing dogs off roofs.
I spent some time in India.
The monkeys there call the shots.
I mean, seriously, if you're, I mean, around the
Taj Mahal area, in Mumbai,
in New Delhi,
that's also
in Thailand.
There's literally people making money
off people going on beaches,
monkeys rob them, and then you pay the locals
a few dollars and they'll get your stuff back.
But in India,
especially outside of the Taj Mahal,
there's monkeys running around all over the place
and if they want something
from you, they're going to get it.
We need Cassandra's view on this story.
She's become a bit
of a monkey expert.
Do you guys see that crazy video where during the lockdown
the baboons had no food so they were
roving gangs of baboons attacking
each other for food?
It was like
they went bloods and crips.
We're in a dystopia.
We're there.
We're there.
This is like
Rise of the Planet of the Apes.
I think I'd like to title
our reality
the Omega Variant
because that's
the last variant.
That's where we're headed
and it sounds cool.
The Omega Variant.
And because
we're in a sci-fi
dystopia with all of this stuff going
on, and I would just like to call it that.
The only place that's safe is the metaverse.
I was about to say, we're going to have the metaverse.
No, that's part of the Omega variant.
Well, there's also monkey
castles in India where monkeys get
worshipped, and there's monkey tribes
fighting other monkey tribes for the top
position of their group
to be inside of this monkey castle where they get worshipped by the locals and fed by the locals.
So there's also stories of monkeys attacking people because of a lack of tourists in other South Asian countries,
and just hordes of monkeys just pretty much running entire cities in South Asia.
New thing pees from Newsweek.
Can monkeys be racist?
Let's find out.
Well, it depends.
What's the race of the dogs?
Are the dogs chocolate labs or yellow labs?
They're white adjacent.
Are they?
Yeah.
They're white passing.
White passing dogs.
Well, this dog is actually white on its front and brown on its back.
So I don't know.
It's white passing
white passing
there's any amount
of white in there
no good
the monkeys are gonna
come for us
it's true
it's a new
Michael Bay movie
did you
there was a show
I was watching
it was called like
after humans or something
I forgot what it was called
and they said that
if humans
disappeared right now
if every single person
on the planet
was just gone
house cats would take over
of course yeah because they reproduce like crazy If humans disappeared right now, if every single person on the planet was just gone, house cats would take over.
Of course.
Yeah, because they reproduce like crazy, and they're the only species besides humans that kill for fun.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, they hunt for fun.
They kill for fun.
And so they just needlessly destroy and expand and kill.
And, man, cats, dude.
Not a fan of cats.
Oh, yeah?
They're torturersurers they literally torture animals
for fun my cat brings me a decapitated mouse yeah quite often yeah it's treasure we had uh
focus our cat he was uh we went outside and he had he was holding a bird a little blue bird and
then he would it was its wing was busted so he would let it go and it would struggle and jump
off and then he would pounce at it and whack it and whack it and whack it we had to put the bird down it was this little tiny little tiny
bird because like it had been eviscerated and so we were like what do we do like we just gotta you
know and then there was another time where i saw him sitting in the grass looking around and i went
out there and there was a little mouse on its back just like wheezing and then it rolled over
and started to crawl away and then he just got ready and then he let it go a little bit then he jumped
up and started bashing it over and over again so i took a little stick and i put it under the hand
of the mouse and the mouse grabbed onto it and i lifted it up and he was just hanging there dangling
and and bocus started going like yelling at me and then i put the mouse in a bush i think he
survived because bogus just
beating him but he didn't he didn't gut him or anything like that nice cats are brutal yeah well
you want to know what's the most brutal thing i saw okay it's one thing when bogus is like
stalking the mouse and and and swatting it a mouse was walking past the chicken coop
and a chicken ran over and grabbed it, bashed the mouse with its beak
against the ground and then just swallowed it whole.
And I was like, oh my God.
That's like some ancient DNA.
Pterodactyl stuff.
Little dinosaurs, man.
Dude, it swallows.
It's like.
Yep.
No, I didn't see that happen.
I was told by some of the people here that they saw it grab the mouse and just bash it
and then.
Wow.
And I was like, whoa.
The extra protein in the eggs. Yeah. Yeah, whoa. They eat your protein in the eggs.
Yeah, dude.
They eat chickens.
Nature is brutal.
Do you know that chickens will eat each other?
Of course they will.
So we had one of our chickens.
Yeah, Dorothy, one of our chickens, was getting injured.
I got to be honest, Dorothy's kind of a bitch.
Oh, wow.
She was.
She's not here to defend herself she was attacking she was bullying the other
chickens and so the other chickens teamed up and roberto the rooster started he would jump on her
and he wasn't he wasn't he wasn't doing the business because you know like he would just
jump on her start pecking her head like crazy and then she would scream and run away and her back
was all messed up and so i we i looked it up we had people comment
on the show they said if she starts bleeding the other chickens will peck her to death and then
eat the body so we we separated them for about two or three weeks dorothy fully healed we reintroduced
her they're all getting along just fine now it's fantastic we're getting the cameras out of our
so there's hope you're saying for people yeah you just gotta separate well so a couple weeks is the equivalent to a chicken of maybe like a year yeah six wow none
of these chickens are dorothy's a a year and a half old wow the other adult chickens are
were born in january so they're almost a year so they were separated for about three weeks
right so that's like you know maybe like a year or two years of their lives.
And we introduce them and they'll be like, Shane, I haven't seen you in so long.
I can't remember why we were mad at each other.
I want to eat you.
But I'm okay.
Are you injured?
Hey, guys, he is injured.
That's food.
We should eat him.
As humans right now, we are so lucky and so protected from the realities of nature.
Because, again, if ish starts to get real, if there's going to be a lack of resources, a lack of food,
it's going to be a very natural process of what's going to be taking place.
And a lot of us are not used to nature.
A lot of us are not used to the wild.
A lot of us don't even understand how the wild works.
And I think with all the crazy stuff happening,
I think people are going to get a very rude awakening soon.
I think I'd be okay.
I was raised by a crazy prepper, like a doomsday prepper.
Perfect.
Yeah, we literally had a go trailer in the garage
that we could hook up and just go.
We never had to use it, but I was just raised that way.
I think I would survive.
An apocalypse vehicle? vehicle yes we did yeah are there some like other prepper tips that
you would share with people that um i learned i learned a lot of weird stuff as a child like
i mean i was in middle school like chopping down bamboo that just kind of randomly grew i live on
the edge of like uh seneca creek which is off of the potomac and it's my house kind of backs up to
the woods and there's like a kind of random shoot of bamboo that shot up, I think, for privacy for my neighbor,
but there's a bunch of bamboo down there. In middle school, I would take it and wrap a fishing
line around it and catch salamanders and catch catfish in Seneca Creek, and I was like, that was
like my little like teenage girl thing. I had no friends, and I was like, oh my god, why does everyone
think I'm weird? But like just like little stuff like that that was normal to me growing up. I learned how to treat and clean cambium from pine trees to eat and make tea with.
I learned how to make flour from acorns, a lot of weird stuff like that.
Are you going to make a hamburger?
From acorns?
Mm-hmm.
Do you ever make dandelion tea?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, Ian talks about that a lot.
He was like, yo, we've got to make dandelion tea.
Lots of awesome tea things out in nature.
I've had dandelion tea.
I really like it.
Is it good?
Yeah, I love it.
Pine tea made from cambium is also pretty good.
I've made acorn tea as well.
It's kind of more of like a nutty coffee flavor
if you do it with acorns, but yeah.
We got probably 300 pounds of black walnut outside.
You ever do anything with that?
It's apparently like an anti-parasitic or something,
but you're not supposed to eat a lot of it.
I don't know.
I don't know.
We have pawpaw like crazy in October, though.
I remember the day I met you, you made mulberry jam.
Yeah, mulberry jam.
You gave me a cookie with some mulberry jam.
It was amazing.
The best thing we made, so we have wild wine berries everywhere in West Virginia.
I saw a guy driving down the highway, pull over his car, jump out, and start grabbing
berries from the side of the road.
I'm not kidding.
They're delicious.
They're like a Chinese raspberry.
We took those, and we took lemon juice.
Now, you use a little bit of lemon juice
to make it a jam,
but I did a lot of lemon juice
to make a lemon wine berry jam.
It was amazing.
And then we put it on cheesecake.
So good.
I got news, though.
I got good news.
We were trying to get this building built.
We got a building getting built.
Nice.
We're going to have Freedomistan Timcast HQ,
an official big steel
construct building,
7,500 square feet,
with a new studio
being built out
specifically inside of it.
We got this confirmed today.
I didn't think
we were going to be able
to pull it off
because of the shortages
and the price increases,
but we finally found
a company that said
we can get this done.
It's smaller than
we originally wanted,
but it's going to be
mostly big,
empty open space for now,
and then there's going to be a small area that's about 20 feet by 75 feet that will comprise the studio.
It's going to be a second floor construct.
And then we're going to have a legit headquarters in West Virginia for everything.
We're still going to have this space for production and editorial and everything, but we're growing like crazy.
It's incredible.
Yeah, we're growing like mad crazy.
It's good news. And it's thanks to everybody who's a member, who's a member at TimCast. Yeah, we're growing like mad crazy. It's good news.
Yeah.
And it's thanks to everybody who's a member, who's a member at TimCast.com, supporting all the work we do.
And it's a hefty ticket.
It's expensive to do.
But it's like I've been saying.
We want to do a lot.
We need space.
We want to do the Truth in Media Foundation.
We want to fact check the fake media.
We need office space for this.
We want to do the technology stuff. We need office space for this. So we're going to start building out the space
we need. It's actually cheaper to build on this land than it would be to go buy a building and
deal with it. Plus it's going to be built, made to order. So it's specifically for us and everything
we need, man, it's crazy that we're getting this stuff done. So hopefully, you know, I'll put it
this way. The fact that this is all happening is the best evidence that we are winning. That success
is not only possible, but it's happened
before, it's happening now, and
it's going to continue happening. So that's good news.
It's a very optimistic thing, I think.
And I also want to add, because
someone super chatted this, that I am
in fact a Pokemon. He is, yes.
It's a Pokemon called Timpole.
Literally, it's called Timpole.
And it's Pokemon wearing headphones. Kind of looks like you. It it's called Timpole. And it's a Pokemon wearing headphones.
It kind of looks like you.
It does, doesn't it?
And it's got the same colors.
Isn't that weird?
Yeah.
Isn't that really weird?
Who came first?
I love him.
Timpole was made well before I was using...
It's really crazy.
The colors we use for Timcast, the name Timpole...
Simulation.
Yeah, simulation for sure.
So we use the teal and the black
as the colors on the website.
Isn't that weird?
Yeah, it's weird.
Tim Pole.
Maybe the true version of you
in the alternate reality,
a part of this larger kind of consciousness
that we're a part of,
we're just kind of trolling.
Someone's trolling.
I don't know
but somebody super chatted
they were like why didn't you tell us that you were a
Pokemon and I was like other people
have sent us this before
Tim Pole
that's weird
it's like a tadpole I guess
so cute
you're even the right water sign
how funny
and I'm a Pisces
yeah exactly as I'm a Pisces. Yeah, exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, you're a water sign.
Crazy.
I love it.
So do we live in a simulation?
Pick up your copy
of the Inverted World book
and read it.
Perfect.
Look at that.
InvertedWorldBook.com.
One thing we can do though
is we can jump over
to the Super Chats.
Yes.
If you haven't already,
smash that like button,
subscribe to this channel,
share the show with your friends
and Ian couldn't be with us tonight. So I need you to smash chats. If you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and
Ian couldn't be with us tonight.
So I need you to smash that like button
for him. Ian, wherever you may
be, we're smashing that like button for you.
No, he went home to see his family. It's not a big deal.
He'll be back. We should have said there was a fight
and like, yeah.
It got bad. It got crazy.
Ian left. We don't know where he went.
But he said, we got a mysterious message that said, I'll only come back if you get 10,000
likes.
And we were like, how do we do this?
No, it was a letter and it was like, get 10,000 likes and you'll never see Ian again.
Oh, it was like a random note.
Tim Pole.
All right.
Let's see what we got here.
All right.
Let's see.
Drive by commenter says, hey, Tim, a quick response you
can say on CRT is I agree with teaching all history, but I reject the deliberate polarization
and weaponization of the youth in their formative years. Yeah, it's hard for people who don't know
what's going on to understand. That's why like, you know, we're talking with RA, I said, I don't
think critical race theory should be banned. He goes, but you were cheering for it. And I was like,
we're cheering for the banning of the praxis. Like, it's I imagine this should be banned. He goes, but you were cheering for it. And I was like, we're cheering for the banning of the praxis. I imagine this should be simple for most people.
Would you want a teacher to tell a child to, oh, you failed your test, so I want you to
sit down and do seven Hail Marys and three Our Fathers? You'd be like, I don't think that should
be in a public school because it's a religious practice. I feel the exact same way about that. If there was a bill being passed that
said, or if I found out all these teachers across the country were bringing out books that said,
sit down and close your eyes and reflect on how you've sinned and how you need to confess to the
Lord and do all these religious things, I'd be like, nah, I'm not okay with that, right? That's
a public school and there's issues with that.
Same thing.
They can't have whatever they want, you know?
Recramorson says,
so when's the sequel song, Will of the Elites?
I have a new song I'm extremely excited for.
I don't, you know what?
I think I can tell the story of the song right now.
Because, right?
Normally, like when we did Will of the People,
I waited for it to come out so people can get the full song
because the song is a story.
But the song I'm working on now, I'll give you the really quick version.
So it'll spoil it for a lot of – no, I'm not going to do it.
Don't do it.
I don't want to spoil it.
Don't spoil it.
It's really good though.
But I'll tell you the gist of it.
It's not a dark and evil song.
It's just a song about perseverance.
It's about a kid who wants to defy the the establishment that's trying
to mold him to be what they want him to be but he really wants to just be like you know he wants to
be a scientist he wants to explore he wants to find his own path in life so that's basically it
but it's a really good story that i that i wrote and i've got the video planned out for it the song
is is already mostly formulated so and then we're also actually done,
we're getting really close
to being done with one song
which is fairly dark
called Bright Eyes
which you may have seen
in the vlog.
You can check that out.
We got Pete Parada
laying drum tracks for us.
I could not be more excited
about that as a huge fan
of The Offspring growing up
and then having Pete
help us with the drums
is just absolutely incredible.
Pete, you rock.
Thank you so much.
All right, let's read
what we got here.
The Physicality Channel says, I'm not that guy.
Which guy?
Which guy is he referring to?
I don't know.
I have no idea.
Daniel Kaven says, Tim, I am 25% Japanese,
and it was always my leftist friends that would say it doesn't count.
I am the same age as you, and when I fly, I get polled also.
It's the weirdest thing that,, I don't know man,
that you have people who say there's no
possible way you could experience racism and then
they claim they're not the racists.
It's just weird. Anyway.
Alan DeJane says if one wants
to ask others to relate to their struggles,
they must give credence to other struggles.
Understanding works best as a two-way lane.
And shout out to Vosh
again because he made a really great point. He when someone tells you their experience you do not call them a liar or deny
it why would you ever because they are the experts on them you always say okay and or okay but and
you carry on accepting you know unless you he's like unless you can means test and prove they're
making a story up,
if someone says it's what they went through, then you accept it.
What happened to speaking your truth?
Right. Well, it's because that's why I say a lot of these people are just overtly racist. But I
will say, too, in that capacity, I do think Vosch is an overt authoritarian masquerading as a
libertarian. And that is not meant to be a point of derision or
disrespect. It's just an opinion-based statement of how I view him. And it was because he made a
troll video where he was saying it was bait that he said Assange should rot in a CIA black site
as long as it offends Glenn Greenwald or whatever. And I understand he may be joking or screwing
around or whatever, but I'm just like, I don't actually trust that he's joking in that capacity.
I don't think he's being as literal as he wants Julian Assange to die in a CIA black site, but I genuinely do not believe he supports Julian Assange.
And I got to be honest, overwhelmingly, if you oppose what Assange did, it is typically because you're an authoritarian and what assange did was journalism that's just it so i i don't trust him
absolutely because it disrupts the authority you know daniel kaisao says my first super chat i
believe you guys are the future both your show and your ideas. Shout out to Knowles' book, You Know the Thing, and Be Strong, Walruses.
Nathaniel Curry says, I'm not that guy.
Smash the like button, y'all.
That's right.
That's right.
If you are not that guy, smash that like button.
I want to say something, too.
Look, afterwards, you know, there are people who are like, Tim, why would you apologize to that guy?
And I'm like, because I don't want to fight people.
Because I'm trying not to have conflict.
And because I recognize we disagree. And we both got mad? And I'm like, because I don't want to fight people because I'm trying not to have conflict. And because I recognize we disagree and we both got mad.
And I said this earlier,
I take full responsibility
for everything that happened last night.
Why?
I believe that I should not invite people into my house
who are going to disagree with me
and then have me get mad at them
and yell at them for it.
I can get mad at them.
I can disagree with them.
I can get mad.
But if I ask someone to come here
because I'm going to talk politics with them and they don't like my politics, I should not be raising my voice about
that. I do think there's some criticism to go to R.A. for calling me a bitch and laughing at me
and raising his voice to me. And then he got mad when I did the same. But I think I have an
obligation as the host who's asked them to do me the favor of traveling,
coming on my show for free, helping me do a show, and then me getting mad at them, I
shouldn't have done that.
I shouldn't have done that.
So it's one of my personal pet peeves when other people try to tell you what you think.
This is something that happens a lot on the internet.
It happens to me in real life.
I once mentioned that I had a hard time dealing with people from a certain state.
Someone contradicted me, and I was like, I'm telling you what's happened to me. What's going on? Why are you
telling me that I'm wrong with what I'm telling you about what happened to me? This is just what
I've experienced. One of the things that you can't say is true or false is what has happened
to someone else or what their opinion is. That is not something that is falsifiable in any manner.
You can't just contradict someone. And people don't even know what they think themselves.
They're very bad at communicating what they themselves are feeling.
So to tell someone you know what they're thinking or feeling, get out of here.
And I want to make something clear, too, is the weirdest thing.
There's two important points.
I did say this earlier, but I'll say it again.
That there's people on the left and the right saying, the left is saying, Tim was a coward
and look how fast he backed down when RA stood up and put him in his place.
And there's people on the right saying, damn, Tim didn't even flinch.
He kept his cool.
And my response is neither of those apply to the circumstances because I don't think anyone here thought R.A. was actually going to attack anybody.
No.
He just got mad and he smacked the mic.
Yeah.
So there's nothing for me to be scared of. I didn't
think, like, I feel like it's a weird insult
to R.A. to imply that he was
going to lose his cool and attack us. I do not
believe that for a second. Right. So I wasn't being brave.
I wasn't being scared.
I literally was just like,
the dude stood up and hit the mic. Didn't
come after anybody. And I do
want to stress this point, too. That's really weird.
There's people on the left saying that I didn't understand what he was saying when he said,
I'm not that guy. And I'm like, why do you think I apologized to him? I told him you are that guy.
I know exactly what that meant. It was an insult. I was directly insulting him saying that he was
going to sit back and take it. And I called him a mother effer and I said bad words. And I
was like, bro, I should not have snapped like that. So I fully recognize I was being disrespectful to
a guy. I invited to come on my show to do me a favor. And that was wrong of me. That's just
right there. So some people are like, Tim, don't back down. No, dude, I have to say this plainly.
If the goal of this show is to ask people to come on for free and then we run a
business we make money and we hire people we expand you know these people are all doing me a
favor so i can i can accept that if i invite someone here they might not like me or agree
with me i should not raise my voice at them and he ended with a hug ended with a hug and he wrote
a nice thing on twitter that's right we both like few hours later, it was great. You did too.
And he said, like, they're going to take that clip.
And then that's why the first thing I wake up and I see was trending.
I'm like, yeah, here we go.
I was like, no one's posting that we hugged, man.
We hugged for like a good 20 seconds.
And we were both like, I'm sorry, dude.
That should be the shirt.
And people too.
There was a lot of disrespect for him. Bro, like, as a skateboarder, he's got that song, King of the Underground and Tony Hawk's Underground.
We know R.A. the Rugged Man, dude.
That song is awesome.
I just wish I was there.
I want to sit face-to-face with a white man telling me about the black experience and calling me a racist and calling me a white supremacist.
I want to hear it.
Let's make that happen.
I love when I get in these situations and it doesn't happen often because usually they'll understand before they talk to me like, yeah, she's probably not the best person to, you know, white explain about the black experience, too.
But occasionally it will happen, usually on Twitter when you're not face to face with somebody.
But I would just love to sit down with somebody who is so deluded.
I think we need another thriller in Manila, too, with other people who are going to come on i think i i think there deserves to be
a redemption moment and a moment where we could converse about this um and give it another try
where we could try to understand each other with other people involved that would be the best
outcome yeah for sure ian shop says hey tim and crew ended up checking out vosh's take on the
viral clip and given he didn't see the two prior hours, he had a good take overall. But his comment section was gross.
A non-trivial portion just criticized your personal appearance. Well, that's because
they're jealous. Over the past several months, I've been doing keto and I've lost a good amount
of weight. That's right. And I've been skating. You know what? It's really incredible. You get
your diet right. It's not even about losing weight. It was about me realizing that we talk bad about sugar all day every day, and I was eating trash.
I was like, during the day, I'd be like, oh, you know, I'll get something good, like some rice and beef or something.
And then at night, I'd be like, what's one pack of gummy bears?
What's one Stroop waffle?
It's no big deal.
It's just one soda.
I was good all day.
Yeah, exactly.
I'd say this.
And now I'm just like, I'm not touching any of that stuff.
Yeah, that's great.
The worst thing I had today was a hot dog.
I actually ate the bun.
That's right.
Whoa.
But it was like, you know, I have substantially reduced just bad stuff in my diet.
I still eat some bad stuff.
We had pizzas.
I just took the cheese and I ate the cheese.
That's a good way to do it.
Because I'm like, I can't walk. And we had,
but we have keto pizzas. We have Quest keto pizzas.
I put Giardiniera on it.
Man, that was good. It's keto cookies too.
I had one of those last time I was here at the
Quest pizza. It was actually pretty good. We are not
sponsored by Quest in any way. We're not.
Love that stuff, dude.
It's so good.
Alright, let's see. KM says, Michael Graves
instead of Danzig. Whack.
Michael Graves couldn't make it, unfortunately.
He'll be here eventually.
Eventually.
He'll reschedule.
Yeah, we were really excited, but these last minute things.
That's why we're like, we never announce guests.
And I said it.
I was like, we don't normally do this, but Michael Graves is coming.
And then he's like, I can't make it, dude.
And I'm like, ah.
Your mom says, when are the Friday night music jams coming back?
Wait until we get the new space set up for dommastan is going to be awesome oh yeah friday night what i
wanted to do is actually have semi members only uh friday nights so what we would do is here's
what i'm thinking for the next year by the March, we should have the building. By maybe May, we should have the studio.
So we're talking about end of next spring
and getting into next summer.
What we can do is on Friday night shows,
after the show ends, we keep it going live
and we have about 20 website members
who can sign up for tickets
or put on a wait list for them.
And then you'll get invited out to come hang out.
That's right.
Or do a concert outside with
thousands of people coming in we'll do that but we can't do that every friday you know so it would
be like 20 to 30 people in this big space hanging out as like a mixer with drinks and snacks and
some music and then we'll film the music but maybe like once a month or every once a month raver
big raver outdoor stage we'll get like a big band, like legit.
We'll hire a legit big band, and we'll have tons of people, but that requires a ton of logistics.
Yeah, definitely, dude.
Definitely.
We're super stoked on working with Ryan Long because that dude is a genius.
Oh, he's funny.
I just got to see him when I was in California like a month ago.
He was hilarious.
He's great.
Absolutely fantastic.
All right, let's see.
James Gross says,
I saw the RA show from yesterday this morning,
and he was hammering the black experience as a topic.
Got me wondering if you'd consider asking Anthony Brian Logan on the show.
I'm not familiar with him.
He's an interesting person.
He's great.
What's his bit?
What do you say, Shane?
He just covers the culture war, I think.
He's awesome.
He sees it.
Yeah.
Not super biased. He wears great hats. He does, yeah. It, I think. He's cool when he sees it. Yeah. Not super biased.
He wears great hats.
He does, yeah.
That's also true.
He's fantastic.
He's really smart.
He's cool.
Yeah, yeah.
Bob Samarchik says, as a Slavic person of color, I'm personally offended by the white
privilege demonstrated by tonight's panel.
Oh, wow.
Damn right.
I should have been leading the show here.
You should be rootcast.
Yeah, Luke.
But Luke, what percentage Polish are you?
Are you 100% Polish?
100%.
You're 100%?
Wow.
I'm about 40% Polish, though.
So you're mixed race.
Still.
Yeah, I am.
Irish, too.
I'm here.
You're like down here in the total pole.
Well, I don't know, actually.
That would make Shane mixed race.
So there's less mixed race people than you.
But I'm totally Slavic.
So if I'm half black and you're 100%
I'm 100%
I just want to know
who's more impressed.
Who can break down?
Is there like a chart breaking down the quadrants
of the Olympics?
Don't try to get in between me and my people's struggles.
My family left Poland too.
You just fought them.
No, I left Poland.
That's right, you left Poland.
I left Poland.
That's real.
I left New York.
I mean...
That's Poland of today.
Poland 2.0, yeah.
Poland's actually doing really good now.
That's right, this is a good one.
Nova Carrillo says,
Vosh's take on the RA video.
Quote,
Look, Tim Pool is a conservative,
and that means by necessity you're going to be a racist.
Exactly.
I think Vosh needs to just watch the show.
He would benefit, yes.
What does Vosh think of black conservatives if black people can't be racist?
I don't think he believes that.
I don't think he believes that.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, like we've actually had really good conversations, and I think for the most part on the core of issues we agree but on
reality he lives in a left bubble like i actually pulled up i i pulled up proof of that with ground
news showing you know like what 80 85 of his interaction is all left-wing media so i don't i
don't think he actually knows the perspective of us or people on the right so he can certainly
understand that like the things that the left are doing that he disagrees
with that are fundamentally wrong but he doesn't understand what our opinions are because he
doesn't he like when he came here he was like you're far right and i was like what like have
you ever listened to what i've had to say i was like i could understand someone calling me a
moderate centrist or even center right if they want to make an argument but like far right and
even conservative not only has he listened to you but he's never listened to a far right person then.
Right.
If he's actually saying that.
Yeah.
And what does far right really mean?
I don't know.
Nothing anymore.
It doesn't mean anything.
Nothing.
They're like laissez-faire capitalists or are they Nazis?
Right.
Liberal doesn't mean anything either.
You're not.
Classic liberal, but people might see that and think that's far right,
depending on where you're standing on the spectrum.
All right.
I got to address it.
Really now says, not going to lie,
last night was the first time I disliked a Timcast.
That guest was dumb.
Well, I'll put it this way.
You are free to dislike all of our videos if you believe that the video and the substance of the content we produce deserves to be disliked.
But I will push back and say, if you dislike the content we produce, like you click the button, because you disagree with the guest, well, that hurts us.
Right.
That hurts us in the long run. So my attitude is like, I think it was good that we had RA on the show and we had this
discussion and heated debate because I don't want to be in an echo chamber.
I want to bring on guests that argue with us and challenge us.
And I thought it was actually a fantastic example of everything I disagree with when
it comes to wokeness.
And so I thought that was good.
I thought it was good.
And some people even pointed out,
you got to hear me, Luke, and Lydia and Ian
express our ideas on issues more in depth
than we normally would
because we usually don't have someone there
presenting those arguments.
So I think it's good.
And if you like the show,
then you give us a like.
If you don't like a particular show,
just because whatever,
feel free to give us this like.
Eric Miller says, maybe wokeness isn't a cult, but an infection. And they're just mindless super spreaders. don't like a particular show just because whatever feel free to give us this light eric miller says
maybe wokeness isn't a cult but an infection and they're just mindless super spreaders i think r.a
was just trapped in a crt bubble to the point he just straw manned all night be uh but respect for
showing up yeah and and lydia you sent him video so he knew exactly yeah but i think i think the
problem was that was his only exposure to the show so So he didn't see the seven or eight videos I made saying that Chauvin was wrong.
He saw only the court trial videos where I was like, whoa, the prosecutor dropped screwing this case up like crazy.
And it looks like on the merits of manslaughter case.
He didn't like that.
But he didn't see anything else I said, anything else I reported on.
It's funny when people are like, when have you ever spoken up about what happened with George Floyd?
And I'm like, here's five video links to my videos.
And people are like, oh, whoa, I didn't know that.
I'm like, just watch my show, dude.
Don't get your news from memes.
I'm more than a meme.
People get their news from memes, man.
Yeah, for sure.
You know?
Okay.
Daniel Irving says, part of the problem is that most people that scream racist have never seen an actual racist and i love it how yesterday i kept calling ra racist and the left was like upset about it they were like how dare he
and i'm like i don't know it's kind of weird because like technically correct yeah he's a
white dude right isn't he inherently racist and he can do no he can do no like he has to
he has to accept his racism and bow down to crt and all that stuff. All right. Let's see if we've got some other.
What is this?
Joshua Allbritton says, can I please get a business shout out for Papa Allbritton's Florida
cow whips?
Hope you received and liked the whip I made for you.
I'm trying to sell enough to earn 4K for tuition for trucking school.
Oh, very cool.
Oh, my gosh.
Is this the guy that sent the whip?
Because I freaking love whips.
My dad used to have one and I still know how to work one,
and I love it. It's awesome.
This is a family-friendly show, Linda, please.
I just thought that was like a racist dog whistle.
I don't know about that one, Lydia.
No, it was really well made.
It's really well tightly braided.
Oh, I'm sure it was.
Yeah, okay. All right, Olivia. Calm down.
The show's taking a great turn.
I'm just saying.
I had to bring it there. Thanks, Olivia. All right, Luke, calm down. The show is taking a great turn. I'm just saying. I had to bring it there.
Thanks, Olivia.
All right, Luke, calm down.
Okay.
Zorork Graft says, bro, RA is so far gone that last year he made a statement saying he was a better rapper than Eminem.
The full amount of delusion is understandable now.
Well, I don't know about being better than Eminem, but I will say he's actually really good.
He's pretty good. Did you see Eminem's
rap against Trump?
There's an argument to make there.
Eminem made an
anti-woke rap that was just not really that good.
Eminem's had good stuff in the back
in the past, but
look, just because you guys don't
like the argument we got into
and I'm critical of the guy, I legit think you gotta watch his stuff because he is really good at what he does.
But I think even he said that one of the things that held him back from bigger fame and notoriety was that he was a hothead.
And that there are stories about him being really disrespectful and angry with producers and companies.
And so that kept him away from bigger stuff. But he's still
really big and really famous.
I'm not...
I legit mean it. He's got a video
criticizing the media.
It's amazing. His Twitter feed
is like free Assange.
I was like, it's nothing like what I was seeing.
He's an amazing lyricist.
He worked with Biggie. He worked with Wu-Tang.
He worked with Mobb Deep. He's been around forist. He worked with Biggie. He worked with Wu-Tang. He worked with Mobb Deep.
So he's been around for a very long time.
But there's a video.
I mean, he's a good rapper, man.
He's good.
Now, if he wants to come out and say he's better than Eminem and stuff,
I just feel like it's a little bit arrogant, I guess.
Maybe he was trolling.
Right.
Or it's just the hip-hop stuff.
Like he's going to create kind of beef or whatever.
Or whatever.
I don't know.
But don't judge a person's talents based on their opinion, their political opinions.
Because I'll tell you this.
Chris Evans has got a garbage bag full of trash opinions in my view.
But I think he's a great actor.
I thought he did a really great job in Knives Out.
I thought the movie was great.
A little woke, but still a pretty good movie.
And I don't know.
We can separate art from the artist.
Yep.
Right?
All right.
Let's grab some more of these Super Chats here.
Brendan Does says,
The Salty Cracker is being banned on Rumble right now.
If Dave Rubin is defending Rumble's recent business changes,
ask him directly why such a freedom-centered and outspoken individual is being canceled at this very moment.
Why is Salty Cracker being banned on Rumble?
Don't know anything about him.
I don't know that channel.
Well, I guess I don't know a lot about the core substance of what their views are.
I know that the Salty crew, they come in the chat all the time and they're shouting them out and everything like that.
But I honestly, I can't say that I care.
I don't think Rumble should be censoring anybody.
Anybody.
Yep.
I don't know, man.
Let the law handle it, right?
Let the government, let the law.
If it's legal.
Exactly.
If it's legal speech, allow it.
I think there are issues about not having to promote certain things.
Like Rumble's got a front page where it's like podcasts and other shows that they editorially promote.
I don't think you're entitled to that.
I don't think I'm entitled to that.
If my content can be on Rumble and people can go find it through the URL and search
for it and there's no shadow banning, they don't have to market me.
But actively removing stuff, they should not be doing that.
But we'll see.
We're talking with the guys over at Rumble.
Maybe we'll have someone from the Rumble team come out here and do a show with us and talk about all this stuff.
I think that would be very great.
And we have some ideas.
Look, Rumble is a net positive, a huge net positive.
Everything that's going on with Rumble is great.
It's good.
I just feel like it's short-term, not long-term solution.
And so I'm worried about it.
And I will say this too as far as it goes with Rumble, the criticisms that I've had are mostly about what might end up happening to Rumble
that is bad for us. But I will say everything happening now is a net positive. You know,
competition for Silicon Valley and all that stuff is a good thing.
All right. Derek Watkins says, Senate version of the NDAA changed Section 716, allowing natural immunity, and Section 720, allowing general under honorable conditions, meaning military members can lose GI Bill education benefits.
Whoa.
See, this is what I thought.
This is what I thought.
Tony Gillard says, Luke is a JoJo fan.
I'm offended and amazed.
I definitely need that shirt.
I thought it was an anime reference.
No, no.
It's a very deep
reference to the politically understanding yeah you watched this show we made a reference to uh
this you know jojo saying and you really got to be deep in the weeds to understand this one so
this is a carefully curated shirt for the people who are in the know really Really Now says, it wasn't the argument. He drove me nuts.
He provided no sources.
They didn't like the way he spoke,
but I don't, I,
he had a Brooklyn accent.
Whatever.
Yeah, well, I'll tell you this.
Well, no, I'm going to leave it there.
I don't want to beat a dead horse
because I'm just going to be saying
the same thing I said already.
Ashley Parrish says,
Timcast IRL is becoming popular here in Houston suburbs.
Had two different cars pull up next to me tonight
with it blasting from their speakers.
Wow, that's crazy.
That's funny.
It's so weird to be on Twitter
and I was trending nationwide.
And I'm just like, I don't like that.
Weird, what's happening?
Vosh had a really funny tweet.
It was a meme where it was like,
I can't remember, it was a meme where it was like, I can't remember,
it was a meme where it was like,
I fear nothing,
but there's one thing that really scares me.
And then it like,
you know,
whatever that meme is,
and it pointed to,
it said trending Vosh.
And I'm like,
I know that feeling.
I don't want to know why people,
why I'm trending.
What are they talking about?
I didn't even see the Ari stuff
until like a few hours ago.
And so when I like woke up
and saw the message from Liz,
I can come on and I see you trending
and I see the clips.
I was like,
it's a trap. Yeah, I was like, it's a trap.
Yeah, I was like, it's a trap.
No, we were going to have Michael Graves on, but he couldn't come.
So we were like, who can come at such
short notice? Who's nearby or whatever?
The afterthought, Olivia.
I was downstairs drinking.
So Ian wasn't here either.
And I was like, who's available right now?
We've got no guests and Ian's gone too
and then I was like
oh Shane you got a book
why don't you come up
and hang out
and shout out to Chris Carr
for these drinks
awesome
yeah we had a Christmas party
there was a secret Santa
we went to a local pizza place
and got wings
and pizza
it was awesome
Chris Carr
who's the executive editor
for TimCast.com
made a bunch
he made the Grinch
the Santa
and the Rudolph drinks
and it's all very heavy alcohol.
I can't drink.
I tasted it and I was like, ah!
It's strong.
And he edited this book.
That's right.
Yep.
And art by Jessica.
Jessica Boone.
That's right.
I got a crazy gift by Jessica.
She gave me a portrait of me with a firearm, a flag, a cowboy hat, and glasses.
And this crazy cool Burning Man hat
that's all weird and furry.
I thought that was a $20 limit.
Yeah.
She said she went to the Salvation Army.
She said she stole it.
Not to the Salvation Army.
Like Goodwill or whatever.
And then she found it there for cheap.
And then she drew the photo.
Oh, I see.
Which is pretty cool.
I was saying her labor is worth more than $20.
Oh, yeah.
Absolutely.
She's great. She does amazing work. Did you post it yet, the photo? No, not yet. You is pretty cool. I was saying her labor is worth more than $20. Oh, yeah, absolutely. She's great.
She does amazing work.
Did you post it yet, the photo?
No, not yet.
You got to post it on Instagram.
All right, let's grab some more of these here.
Super chats.
I'll post it tonight on Luke We Are Changing.
Some Norwegian guy says you should have Gad Sad on sometime.
Isn't he in Canada?
He is.
He has an open invitation, but we didn't want to do long distance, like a Zoom call.
Yeah, I don't want to do Zoom.
Yeah, we don't do Zoom.
It doesn't really work.
It's IRL.
Yeah, it is.
Originally, it was IRL because it was going to be a vlog.
And then it was IRL because we were doing, I don't know, in-person interviews or whatever.
But we've never done remote stuff.
I don't want to do remote stuff.
It doesn't have the same feel.
It doesn't have the same power.
Energy and vibes.
Imagine yesterday's conversation over a Zoom call. That would have not been good it was not there's no magic yeah i did um
i was on ben shapiro's show that's i think was a sunday special earlier in the year and we had to
record it because we don't we didn't have that good of internet at the time i recorded it and
then i had to have the memory card driven drive Yeah, I had to drive it up there. Drive it somewhere. Not to Ben Shapiro, but we drove it somewhere with internet.
That took like half an hour.
And then upload it.
And then they basically took the recordings and then overlaid them.
But it wasn't the same.
It was like there was a, I don't know.
It just doesn't work as well.
Yeah.
This is energy.
There's no energy.
I'm looking forward to when we get a chance.
We've actually been trying to figure out having Ben
Shapiro come on because we are big fans
and I think it would be a really amazing conversation.
But of course, the dude is one of the busiest guys
on the planet and you can't ask someone
not to do their show to do your show. It just is
a weird thing. But we are actually planning
on spending a week at the Daily Wire
HQ. We were planning it actually
in November, but we just
couldn't make it work. It was very difficult.
And then we ended up going to Austin because
we had a week to build this
mobile studio, and then by then the plans for
Nashville
didn't make sense. But we're thinking
maybe in January, depending on the weather, because we don't
want to be driving a trailer through snow and mountains and stuff,
we might go to Nashville, which is not too far from
here. I think it's like nine hours. And then
hang out just outside the Daily Wire headquarters
and do a week long show with the
Daily Wire crew and then maybe even
if Ben's in town have him pop in like Joe did
and then do another insane
Tuesday episode where we have
nine people all yelling at each other
all the guys from the Daily Wire
that was great that was one of our biggest shows
ever and I'm so
it was just amazing it was just ridiculous and great.
All right.
Let's read some more.
Ethan Randall says, did y'all already cover the Sixth Circuit Court ruling on vaccine mandate?
Which one was that?
So many rulings.
I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know which one that was.
There was one out of California I saw.
That might be the one that reinstated it, I think.
Yeah, I think they reinstated it.
Gemini Writer says, would you consider having Tom McDonald on the show?
Of course.
Open invitation.
Yes.
Tom's awesome.
I've spoken to him a couple times.
He's a rad dude.
He's a...
B-A-F.
Yes, exactly.
Tom versus R-A?
Oh, yeah.
No, they're friends.
They're good friends.
Oh, okay.
Well, I mean, like in a talk.
Oh, I mean, that'd be cool.
Nice debate between two friends.
I feel like that might help
simmer things down
and get a real conversation going, too,
especially considering they are friends.
Yeah.
And, you know,
we don't know where Tom is though
on that kind of, you know, debate.
It doesn't matter.
It'd be a good conversation.
Yeah, great.
Yeah.
Tom's rad.
Amazing music.
But I think,
I think you look at this and there's music,
you kind of know where he is.
You get hints,
but he kind of rags on everybody.
But he definitely has a band.
He's good.
Yeah.
As you should.
This is what I like. When I went to Joe Rogan's show a couple years ago, he rags on everybody. He does. He definitely has a vent. Good. Yeah, as you should. This is what I like.
When I went to Joe Rogan's show a couple years ago, he ragged on everybody and everybody laughed.
Jonathan Pye.
The Jonathan Pye show I saw with him and Andrew Doyle was legit the funniest comedy performance I've ever seen.
Hands down.
I was physically in pain from laughing.
I'm not kidding.
It was like, man.
Andrew Doyle is the dude who does the Titania McGrath Twitter, the fake woke.
Oh, yeah.
It was so – I saw him perform in New York, and the beats were just so on point that I was laughing harder and harder and harder.
And then I was like –
Can't breathe.
Yeah, it would be awesome to have Andrew.
We're going to.
Oh, okay, cool.
Yeah, as soon as we figure out how to get him over from the UK.
Yeah, everyone's trapped in their countries, man.
Man, I really want to get Sargon, too.
Sargon and Count Dankula, man.
You guys got to come down. We both have kids.
Well, they're talking about doing another two-week lockdown
in the United Kingdom now, which is crazy.
We got to get them.
Guys, you got to apply to the refugees.
Just escape. Come to Florida, New Hampshire.
Let's start a new life. Seriously.
Canada's part of the Commonwealth or whatever. You can just go there, right?
No, don't go to Canada.
You don't want to go there.
Well, at least it gets... New Hampshire, Florida.
Once they get there,
then they can come here.
Yeah.
Flee.
New Hampshire borders Canada.
Look at this.
Logan Doherty says,
I honestly thought last night
was one of the best shows thus far.
Although I was getting super heated,
it was amazing content
and a great conversation.
A lot of people didn't like it,
but it is our most engaged
with member segment ever.
It resulted in this massive viral trend i do not pursue this kind of jerry springer type interactions
a lot of people are like i got messages like if you pursue this route with these like you know
rage debates and they're like you'll be so big and i'm like no no we don't want any of that no
thank you man no i i never thought this operation
would grow to what it is right now i'm like in my living room with a gopro 4 sitting on top of my
monitor and i'm talking about things for 10 minutes and that's all i've ever been doing
and then it just kept growing and getting bigger and bigger and now we have like 30 employees
there's a book on the shelf written by shane edited by ch, drawn by Jessica, put together by this crazy, amazing team in this new studio.
Now we've got a 7,500-square-foot, 25-foot-tall building being put together with a new studio.
And I'm just like, how did all of this come together, man?
Amazing.
It's crazy.
Because you're busy.
But I'm just having fun.
Some of the hardest-working people here.
Yeah, I know.
It's true.
But everyone here is hard-working.
Bro, how long did it take you to get that book put together?
Outside of the writing? Outside of the writing? i talked to you about this two weeks ago yeah we talked about it when i first met you but i did it in two weeks we
were like two weeks ago i was like it'd be awesome if we can get a book done by christmas and you
were like i can do it done and then sitting right here yeah it's amazing yeah yeah everybody's just
working like crazy, man.
It's really great.
But it's fun.
It is fun.
I'm loving it.
It's super fun.
All right.
We'll grab one more.
Incarnation Art says,
Tim, love you, man.
Keep your head up.
Would love to see Viva Frey and Rakeda Law-Anaga.
Did I pronounce those both wrong?
And I would love to make it on one day to talk about the perspective of being mixed race
and always being expected to choose. I you on that one man yeah it'd be really cool to get viva
and and ricada on at the same time yeah yeah maybe i don't know it's really hard for um
viva's in canada so it's like it's hard uh where's ricada he's in new york or yeah he's nearby he's
closer i think yeah that'd be absolutely fantastic and robert barnes again too oh yeah maybe maybe
with the kim potter trial or something like that.
We could have like a legal roundtable or something.
So, you know, we'll check it out.
And to everybody else, thanks for the super chats.
It's Friday night.
We're getting really close to the holidays.
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Don't forget to go to TimCast.com to become a member as well. If you want to help support our work directly, you can also go and follow us at TimCastIRL. And, of course, right now, open a new tab and type in InvertedWorldBook.com,
and Shane can tell you all about it.
First of all, thank you for giving me the opportunity to do this.
Oh, no problem, man.
Thanks for making the book.
It's a dream.
I mean, I've had so much fun.
I started this book on June 20th this year.
The first sentence was written down the road right after I met you. That so awesome and uh 275 pages 275 pages later i talk about simulation theory uh and
ghosts that i've may or may not have encountered reaching through the simulation uh i've tracked
a serial killer in long island which our uh third and final part will air on sunday morning on
youtube at 10 a.m it It's also on Apple and Spotify.
And yeah, it's true crime, paranormal, aliens, people being abducted,
children being taken out of their rooms.
So that's invertedworldbook.com,
but you're already getting started on the next book,
which I'm really excited for.
We already started it.
This one's a bit of just like a collection of tales.
Yeah.
But the next one is Ghosts of the Civil War,
which is murder, conspiracies, lost gold, UFOs.
Yeah.
This is like the age of COVID paranoia and the paranormal stuff as going through it all.
It was just cool when you were telling me about the people down there and their anger towards Sherman.
Oh, yeah.
I wore a West Point hat when I went down there.
That's where I grew up on a military base.
Right. And all the Civil War generals came from there hat when I went down there. That's where I grew up on a military base. Right.
And all the Civil War generals came from there.
So I thought it was a good middle ground.
But Sherman's a bad word.
But it's cool to hear that and then to hear these people, the stories.
Like you guys got to understand, like the stuff – I don't want to spoil anything.
But some of the creepy conspiracy stuff going on down there related to this stuff is crazy.
We've got a lot going on.
I'm in tunnels under the city.
Wow. I've got ground penetrating radar looking is crazy. We've got a lot going on. I'm in tunnels under the city. Wow.
I've got ground penetrating radar looking for skeletons.
We've got to get that one.
I'm like, the first one's out.
We've got to get that one out.
It's going to be so cool.
No, six months probably.
Six months?
Next book.
Yeah, dude.
The art's going to be fantastic.
And then I'm excited for, loosely, we're talking about this, the Chicago Mafia.
Oh, yeah.
Ghost Stories, Al Capone, Bachelor's Grove.
It's going to be so amazing.
You've got social media you want to shout out?
Shane Cashman, everywhere.
I also co-host a podcast called Ready Slow with Sean Strong.
And I have a members-only podcast I do in the old IRL studio.
It's on timcast.com.
I do that every – that comes out every Sunday night.
And check out the book, invertedworldbook.com.
Yeah, so actually there's – on timcast.com, there's members-only segments once a week about these stories that you've investigated.
So some of them are crazy DMT aliens.
But we are actually putting together an additional add-on to that, which I think – I don't know where you guys are on that.
I think we're going to record it tomorrow.
So it's you and Chris Carr just generally talking conspiracies.
There's a few of us.
We've got Brett.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's like a whole new show, actually.
Yeah. Yeah. So it's like a whole new show actually. Yeah.
We're trying to figure out how to do it because we don't want it to like interfere with Inverted
World because they're similar.
Yeah.
But this is the general conversation on just like general mystery.
I think we're going to come with articles and we'll all kind of discuss like a round
table, a very specific thing.
Yeah.
Instead of me just kind of like spinning.
Like this is you investigating stories and telling these stories.
And this one is discussion of conspiracies and mysteries and stuff.
Yeah, for sure.
It's going to be awesome, man.
Awesome.
Olivia, you got stuff you want to shout out, right?
Yeah, well, I've been a Tim Kass contributor for a few months.
I have a new article coming out shortly.
I'm waiting for Chris to get back to me, but it's basically examining the history of racism and anti-blackness in the Democratic Party, how it affects people today,
and why white liberals feel comfortable
taking away black conservatives or black independents'
blackness for their own benefit.
So that should be out shortly.
I'm on all social media platforms,
O-L-I-V-I-A-R-O-N-D-E-A-U.
And I also have a baby YouTube channel
if you guys want to subscribe to that too.
It's under my name as well.
Sweet. Thanks for coming.
Thank you so much. Thank you guys very much for tuning in for the newer
calmer version of timcast where we reflect on our wild and crazy days yesterday it was very fun and
exciting and we i feel like we learned a lot and i feel like we had a good conversation so thank you
all for tuning in then and for tuning in now you guys may follow me on twitter at sarah patchlets
somebody said did you hear jack murphy freak out out on Sydney? I'm seeing those comments too.
What happened?
I don't know.
No.
I don't believe it.
I don't believe it.
They both have
something on their head.
Freak out.
It's probably him arguing
and it's like,
I hope.
I don't know.
We need sports and mandates.
No.
Maybe.
I don't know.
We'll see.
All right, everybody.
We're going to get out of here.
Have a good weekend.
Love you, Jack.
Merry Christmas, everybody,
if we don't see you.
We're only going to be doing Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday next week because Ian's not here.
And Christmas.
I don't even think Luke's going to be here on Wednesday.
I'm not going to be here.
It's just going to be me.
And then I'm leaving on Thursday.
Yeah, I'm out too.
Yeah.
All right.
There we go.
Merry Christmas if we don't see you.
But we'll be back Monday.
Thanks for hanging out.
We'll see you all then.
Bye, guys.