Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #437 - Epstein Guards Case DROPPED, Cover Up CONTINUES w/Owen Cook

Episode Date: December 31, 2021

Tim, Luke, and Lydia host popular personal growth coach and mentor Owen Cook to discuss the sudden dropping of the criminal case against Ghislaine Maxwell's prison guards, Alex Jones' threat to reveal 'dirt' about Trump since Trump appears to support the Covid vaccination, Aaron Rodgers speaking out about how the NFL is using the Covid treatment he used and that was recommended by Joe Rogan, and the teen facing a ludicrously long prison sentence for breaking Covid rules in Australia. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It is the end of Limbo Week. We're taking tomorrow off. We're not going to be working. We're going to be celebrating. We're going to be having a work party and then just having a good New Year's Eve. I hope all of you will be doing the same. So thank you for joining us on this Thursday evening. It is Thursday, right?

It is, yeah. We're going to have a good time. We got some crazy news. The Epstein guards had their criminal charges dropped because it's a cover-up. They're doing all of this during the holiday for a reason holiday for a reason, because people aren't paying attention. Ratings are real low. People aren't even working. I think Tucker Carlson's on vacation.

People just not watching the news. It's a perfect time to do it. But it's also the end of limbo week. So we're just going to be chilling. We'll be hanging out talking about, I guess, the news or whatever. We're hanging out with Owen Cook. Thanks, man. Yeah, Owen Cook. I teach personal growth and self-development we've done live

events in 265 cities and 75 countries around the world hundreds of thousands of people face to face and millions online and so we just thought we'd bring in that perspective cool we'll be chilling what's that? said that if science can't be questioned, it's propaganda. And he is absolutely right. He also talked about what the NFL is doing secretly. I think we're going to be talking about that. I got so much I want to get into. But the phrase that Aaron Rodgers said is something that, of course, I personally believe in. That's why a couple of months ago I made this shirt saying that if you could question it, if it's science, if it's not, if you can't, it's propaganda. You could get yours exclusively on thebestpoliticalshirts.com. And because you do, I'm here.

Thank you so much for having me. This should be a really interesting conversation, to say the least. You know, Luke, it's his rants just like that that gives me flashbacks to, like, when you first started red-pilling me with your rants on TimCast. This is the pre-rant. No, no, no. I'm loaded up. You got me fired up, though. I'm locked and loaded.

I'm ready to go. But this is the pre. Loaded up means something different. A little different. Viewers of our show last night would understand. Yeah. Of course. Chris Carr, executive editor at TimCast.com.

Although I am technically Chris Carr, I'm very much feeling the energy of Ian as I sit in his chair and take in all of his crystals. Yeah, can people – there's no way for them to see that there's literally like two dozen crystals in front of Ian at all times. You really just kind of have to see the display for yourselves, but it's very powerful.

Polished spherical pyrite, I believe, and gems, and... I'll take a photo of it right now and put it on Twitter just so people see

the amount of rocks that are laid in front of you and magic hippie stuff that you have in class too. Luke's got machetes. Yes.

Damn right. You never know. Things get crazy here on this show. And they do. I'm ready. So it gets wild. Then everyone can know that Owen was here, invited by Luke, actually, just like some of our previous guests.

This is my third guest. I'm like, I'm on borrowed time here. I'm not that goddamn. We'll see. We'll see. I am also here in the'm not that guy, Tim. We'll see. We'll see. I am also here in the corner and pushing buttons, having fun.

I was saying earlier that the crystals and the machetes right here in front of me are like yin and yang, so we're trying to keep the peace, but we have the means to do it. I'm excited for the show.

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let's talk about the news and i gotta say um we got the story from timcast.com criminal case against epstein's prison guards dropped on thursday Just one day after Ghislaine Maxwell is convicted of sex trafficking, the charges against Epstein's prison guards are dropped. Now, yesterday, my friends, I pointed out after reading the headline that we would be demonetized. Because when a story is this big and this important, there's no point in trying to dance around it. We will be demonetized. And then, of course, I threw it over to Luke. And Luke just went off. And so we of course, I threw it over to Luke, and Luke just went off, and so we'll carry on with that new tradition.

Luke? This criminal cover-up is reaching its epidemic to the point where... Its epidemic? What? You know what I'm trying to say here. Are you freaking kidding me? Like, the guards! The guards that were sleeping, falsifying records.

The people that were responsible for the... I can't say it, can you? Oh my gosh, Luke. For the extermination of... Let's just say Jeffrey Epstein was left alone in his cell by sleeping guards and then later was found not alive anymore. Indeed, yes. Whatever you may call it.

Some people like to name it a part of someone who was running as a presidential candidate, but that's another thing. But these guards were caught napping. They were caught allegedly looking up the news. They were caught looking for motorcycles and furniture and other expensive items. What were they doing? Well, they falsified the records here and there were the ones that were supposed to be doing the rounds checking on epstein making sure that of course he did not hurt himself in any way shape or form and of course they absolutely failed on that job

what happened to epstein no one knows the video footage of his first alleged attempt to hurt himself was literally destroyed and not found under the hands of the authorities that, of course, later came out with a statement by James Comey's daughter and said, oh, no, we just lost the tapes. We don't know what happened. There was, of course, a second attempt, whatever may happen. We don't know because, again, these guards were allegedly too busy looking to buy motorcycles to find out.

So, again, the evidence here is being once again destroyed. And the fact that these guards had their charges dropped by the federal government shows you just how complicit, how disgusting, how rotten this system is, and how they want you to forget this very important story, the story of the decade. When the mainstream media was promoting Jeffrey Epstein as some kind of great philanthropist, they were promoting him as some kind of big money guy, a Wall Street guy, a hedge fund guy. Everyone, including even Miss McCain, knew that he was up to extremely awful, horrible things. And everyone within the government knew what he was doing. The FBI knew since the 90s, and they were sitting on their hands as thousands of children were being hurt and literally

sacrificed at the altar for the ruling elites to do whatever they wanted to in horrible, disgusting ways. And I got a lot more to say about this than Prince Andrews connected to this, but you got to say something, Tim. I got to say something very important for everybody who's listening to this segment. The reason this story is dropping just before New Year's Eve, viewership is going to be down across the board. Ratings are going to be down.

Everyone's on vacation. No one's paying attention. They are covering this up. They sealed the records. The trial was rushed through. We got a glimpse through a keyhole. There was more evidence the FBI had and apparently was cataloged that's never been gone through. And now they're saying with the records being resealed, all of these high profile individuals were flying on this plane.

Never going to find out about it. They dropped the trial. The conviction comes just after Christmas. They're dropping the criminal charges against the guards in the prison where Epstein lost his life. And it's happening during a holiday. It is. It is.

You do this. This is this is a PR dead zone. OK, companies release information. You do this. This is a PR dead zone. Okay? Companies release information. The news comes out on Friday nights or during holidays to make sure no one sees it. I don't have all the answers. But people, you need to make sure that people hear this story. Because as big as it was when we heard Epstein was no longer alive in his prison cell,

this story that the guards are having their charges dropped needs to be just as big. As big as it was when we heard Epstein was no longer alive in his prison cell, the story that the guards are having their charges dropped needs to be just as big. And we're fighting a massive 30-foot wall from sea to shining sea, keeping this information out, and that is releasing it on a holiday. This is absolutely a criminal cover-up and nothing else. What else can you say here? Why did the government say, hey, these people that are responsible for thousands of children never getting justice, these guards that are responsible for these men that hurt children in unspeakable ways, never facing justice, these guards are the ones responsible for it. They have so much weighing on their decisions that night, and they're not going to be held

responsible for one of the biggest injustices in our legal justice system? I mean, Epstein was in the hands of the authorities. They had everything. He would have spoken. He would have leaked names. He had the profiles. He had the DVDs. He had the CDs. He had the hard drives on so many prominent individuals that, of course, he surveilled. He had so much blackmail, so much power, so much truth. And the federal government is squashing it, making sure you will never see it. And that is utterly disgusting because your tax dollars, your ignorance, literally allowed some of the worst human atrocities to happen on the face of this earth that were sanctioned, stamped on by the approval of the federal authorities, by the police officers, the prosecutors, the judges, the politicians, the regulators. All of them were involved here, and this system is rotten to its core.

And to see this major story break now on a Thursday right before New Year's, this is deliberate. This didn't happen today, by the way. People need to understand. This happened some unknown time ago, and now we're finding out about it. It's absolutely crazy. Owen, do you want to say something? Well, the thing that I think about in issues like this is why has society become so apathetic? What is it – I mean, oh, this is a little bit tangential, but like what is it in our food system that makes us so apathetic towards this?

What is it about our day-to-day boring drive to work that makes us so apathetic? Sugar. Yeah. Sugar. And like what is it about the overstimulation that we see in society that makes us not care about this? And then from that standpoint, if you can kind of pull out a little bit, what could the average person even do? Let's say that this head broke during a peak news cycle. What could the average person even do about it to where they're not so demoralized that they just sit there and go, I don't know.

What do you want me to do? And then they just get back to the bread and circus. I was just thinking we should do a skit like the movie don't look up so in the movie you know i guess spoiler alert it's not that big of a spoiler because if you know if you read what the movie's about it's just people saying like there's a there's a meteor a comet gonna hit the earth and they go on they go on tv and the people on tv are like uh-huh i i think they would be it would be fascinating to have a similar sketch where it's like luke goes on a talk show and he's like powerful global elites are flying on these planes including including the former president to two former presidents.

You've got one of the wealthiest men in the world. There are children being trafficked. And they're like, that's so crazy. How can I get one of these flights? I think that has just happened. Right. No, that's an excellent idea. Even for a funny skit video, instead of the asteroid coming to destroy Earth, it's a whole bunch of, like, hopped-up billionaires that are ready to, like,

do horrible things to small children, and there's an epidemic of them going wild, literally having their way and doing unspeakable things and hurting children. Like 50 Bill Gates marching through the streets. Bill Gates gets a mutation device where he replicates, and there's thousands of them, and they're all going on and like a pandemic of the zombies. But instead of zombies, they do other unspeakable things,

especially to little children. And then there's no future. And then we can make this like a no future because there's no more children because the Bill Gates's and the other horrible people have their ways with them. But there's also a lot of other important details here

that we got to talk about with Prince Andrew. I'll say one more thing and I'll throw it to you on Prince Andrew. I just want to let people know that when Luke wakes up in the morning, well, I shouldn't say in the morning. When Luke wakes up just around the crack of noon, and he's very groggy and tired,

and I'm like, I got to get sky-whipped into shape, there's actually one magic word I can say to make it so that Luke instantly is in 110%. He's like walking around. He's in his pajamas. He's like, I'm tired, man. You got any coffee? And I go, Epstein.

He goes, that son of a... And then he just goes off, and he's 100%. I'm like, he's ready got any coffee? And I go, Epstein. He goes, that son of a, I'll tell you. And then he just goes off and he's 100%. I'm like, hey, he's ready for the day. How in the world can you not? Can I comment about that? This is pretty important what you just said there. So when you study spiritual growth, there's books like Power versus Force

that you can look up. And they talk about how one of the lowest levels in human consciousness is apathy, right? And the next level above that is anger. And so in many ways, I think the mainstream media plays into that, where if somebody's in an apathetic mode, and then you put a story about love or peace or joy or fun, that doesn't resonate.

What energizes us in my little thing that I do, I call it a derp state, basically this apathetic derpy state that most of us are in, and they will have to fight our way out of. What happens is that the media knows that makes people angry. And so we're kind of stuck in this thing where it's hard to get people to that next level, right? So in spiritual growth, if you've ever read Eckhart Tolle, his second book is called A New Earth. And a lot of people talk about that. What would a better world actually look like? And when most of us are eating the wrong foods and we're spaced out and we're in

apathy, and then you hear about Jeffrey Epstein. I mean, let's be like, I loved your point. You said Tim, and I took a huge amount of knowledge from that, but then I honestly do wonder even if that had been posted on a major news day, would anything have even happened? I mean, it is so much in your face. I'm probably more widow. Well, I'll say this, man. I think it was a big red pill moment for a lot of Americans when the dude was no longer alive in his prison cell. We'll say it that way. Unalived. No, he was there, and then all of a sudden he was no longer alive.

Whatever you want to say about it. The point is a lot of people were just like, whoa. And so that may not have a direct effect on will they go outside and protest, but it will probably have a big impact on what they read in the news and could shift culture very, very much so. Because people understand if your system, if your tax dollars, if your police officers, your judges, your prosecutors are literally out there participating, aiding and abetting or looking the other way as children are being hurt in unspeakable ways. That's a system that does not have any trust within it. And this is why when this story broke, there was a huge response to this, not by the corporate media, not even by big tech social media. People had to force the hashtag Jeffrey Epstein didn't blank himself. That hashtag went almost everywhere. Corporate media was forced to cover it. And the kind of veil surrounding this

entire system started to unfold because people started to see how things really work in Washington, D.C. You know, that bill that's very popular, populist policies that never get passed. Why don't they get passed? What power do these special interests have? What extortion abilities, what blackmail do they have for these politicians to always turn their back on the citizens and never delivered on their promises? Well, we got a sneak peek at it. We got a small window. We got the tip of the iceberg with Jeffrey Epstein, and the rabbit goes a lot deeper. Uh, now what can the average person do about this? Their attention,

their energy, just even understanding this is extremely powerful because the system can't function if, if not enough people believe in them. Right. So, so no, no, no. I was just going to say that like that, that's something that's really bothering me too. That's this, you keep iterating the same question. I keep thinking it's just like, okay, so what? What can you do? What can the average person do? Yes, being red-pilled on this whole story is pretty important, but maybe at some level it would help people feel like they could sort of –

if they see this on the national level and they see how deep it is and how corrosive the whole system can be with an issue like this, then maybe it would make them think, well, I can't let this happen at the local level. Because they can't do anything about Manhattan if they're in the Midwest somewhere, but they could be aware of, wow, if it could happen there, then it can happen here. And they're going to do whatever they can to get engaged in local politics and local school boards and figure out ways to make sure that there's accountability when bad

stuff happens. It's not just about voting. It's not just about getting involved or anything like that. If one day, let's just put it this way. Let's say tomorrow we woke up and literally every single person in this country was actively against critical race praxis in schools. It would be gone. Because all of a sudden, even Democrats would be like, we are going to lose because people are so strongly against this. Everybody who heard that story about these prison guards and immediately regular people

who are not in politics were like, yo, what the just happened? That's a moment where people might just say very simply, I'm not going to put money towards certain things. I'm going to read different news sources. It can cause such a major cultural shift that I think an important point that Luke brought up is confidence in a system is the only way the system can function. So if one day everybody woke up and felt that the U.S. dollar had no value, it would literally have no value. So when people get this news, it changes their perception.

It can strip confidence away from the system. That's why they put it out just before New Year's Eve when nobody's paying attention. And if the government cared about you or your children or just innocent children at all, they wouldn't have went to those guards and they would have said, okay, what happened here? Did you really just fall asleep? Were you really buying furniture here? Were you buying a motorcycle here?

Or did something else happen? We're going to put pressure on you. You're going to face a very stiff sentence for this dereliction of duty because you just created injustice for thousands of children. They didn't do any of that. They just mysteriously, some day before this, dropped the charges. When did they drop the charges? We don't know because, again, a lot of this, as Tim is saying, was specifically scheduled in a way so not enough people know about this. They're afraid of more people finding out about this. And this is why, if the feds really cared about you, they would

have went to Maxwell and they would have been like, okay, you were the procurer. Who did you procure who to? Who else was in this? Who else was involved here? Who else were you hanging out here? Tell us and we'll give you a lesser sentence.

One of those individuals, admittedly, is the man who doesn't sweat at all, doesn't have any sweat glands, according to him, is of course Mr. Prince Andrew, the Queen's son. The Queen and the royal family

have a lot of connections to really awful people who do very similar things that Epstein did, by the way. Epstein is not the first person connected to the royal family that does these awful, horrible things. Real quick, there's a picture of Epstein and Maxwell at the Queen's cottage. Yeah. There's a picture of Kevin Spacey and Ghislaine Maxwell sitting on the throne. Are you kidding me? How many of these people are interconnected? The way that I think about it,

when you run a business, basically the way most businesses function is you keep gradually increasing the price, and then what you do is you tend to shrink what it is that you're giving, and then you wait until customers stop buying. So there was freedoms that were won for us by people largely in the past. And what happened is,

is that the establishment can begin to infringe on those freedoms or even flaunt this nonsense in our face. And as long as there's no boundary, that will keep going, right? Because if you run a business and then you just keep raising the price, raising the price at a certain,

you're like, they're just going to let us keep raising the price. Say you sell orange juice, you keep giving less and less orange juice. The point is like one drop, right? And then you're like,'re just gonna let us keep raising the price say you sell orange shoes you keep giving less and less orange juice the point is like one drop right and then you're like they're gonna buy a drop for a hundred dollars well do it for do it for a thousand dollars then and so what's happening is that back in the day when the kind of people lived in our society who would have had some kind of a boundary they can't just push the envelope like they have in 2020 like they have with epsi all this different kind of stuff but i look at myself so you know me

and luke are friends and i've been listening to what he's saying for years. Tim, I've watched what you're saying for years. And I'm like, I was like, okay, I'm sold. What do I do? Right. And it's like, I don't know what to do. So talk to people. And I, and I do, and I make videos about it and I have a new video series about it and all that kind of stuff. But I just like when I'm teaching a seminar, for example, in personal growth, what we try to do is get people to buy into this idea that they should improve. And then we give them a direction on what to do. So for me watching this, it's like me watching a seminar with this incredible theory, but what do you do?

So I love what you said. Yeah, you tell more people about it. Because I think confidence in a system is the most important thing, taking it away. If people aren't paying attention and don't care, the criminals get away with it. But if you've got 100 people and they all have their backs turned to a bank, the bank robber is like, now's my chance. If you tell, hey, everybody, turn around, and they all do, the guy's going to be like, I'm not going to do this. Everybody's watching now. I mean, that's one way to put it.

Once everyone's paying attention, it makes it very difficult for criminals to get away with this stuff. It's because people get mad. People vote. People don't buy things. It breaks confidence in the system. If every single person in this country was focused on this story right now and believed something wrong was happening, the politicians would be sweating bullets. They could only get away with it if people are not paying attention to what they're doing. With that attention, it is leading to some circumstances. Ghislaine Maxwell, awful person, according to all her accusers, is going away. Jeffrey Epstein, no longer here. If we were totally blind to this entire situation, that operation would have been going on. VH1 was making documentary pieces about

how great Epstein was, how much money he had, and people were falling for that trap. And there was people coming to him with their children, be like, yeah, you're cool. We want to hang out. Not knowing that this is a big monster that will hurt you. The more we know about these monsters, there's a reason Bill Gates spends hundreds of millions of dollars buying off the corporate media. Literally, he sent, I think, $319 million all over the corporate media. He does that because without people's ignorance, he can't get away with a lot of the stuff that he's doing. And he's rarely ever, he was asked, I think, once or twice about his connection to, of course, Jeffrey Epstein. There's a far bigger extensive connection here. His response to it was atrocious.

His response to it was even more surprising than even the question being asked the first time. But again, this story doesn't end. And before we end, I want to talk about Prince Andrew because this also is the breaking of the dam of this entire establishment system that is so disgusting and has so much blackmail in it because Andrew's lawyers are now holding emergency talks. There's the victim's defense lawyer who said that Andrew should be shaking in his boots. He just filed a motion to make sure that all of the witness testimony, including his deposition, is kept secret from the general public. This has never been heard from before.

He's facing a civil suit in the United States. He's making a lot of outlandish arguments. We're still waiting for him to be deposed. And when he's deposed, he's going to be sitting there in front of the lawyers representing the victims the children here that were hurt here and he's going to have to answer some serious questions and there's a lot of them including how the royal protection officers literally destroyed evidence to his alibi there is a lot of dirty disgusting things happening here and it's only our ability to talk about it, get it out there, that is able to stop a lot of this in its tracks.

And it did work in some way. It's hard to move on from the story because I'm really quite offended that they're putting it out right now. And it's obvious. That's why I've brought it up so much. So please, guys, if you're hearing this, keep this fresh in your mind. Keep a tab open in your browser with the story and get ready to share it in the next week or so to let people know you got to pay attention to this stuff because these are these are evil people doing evil things but one last thing one last thing i'm sorry i just

have a million things i want to say but i just really quickly this also bridges the gap between the left and the right people on the left agree people on the right agree what happened here in this specific instant is an absolute horrible case of government out of control that is absolutely unaccountable. This is a potential item that could bring us all together against the powers that be that truly do run things and truly make things miserable for us. And it shatters that divide and conquer agenda. That's why I talk about this so much and I get so passionate about it because it's so important. Let me give a shout out to Hassan Piker.

He's got a tweet, Hassan the Hun. I responded with eight fire emojis. He said, my thoughts are with the Clinton family in this trying time as their close and personal best friend, pictured front and center at Chelsea Clinton's wedding, is going to federal prison for sex trafficking minors. And according to one report I saw, I haven't fact checked this one. Apparently, the wedding was like invite only, no strangers allowed. So, yeah, yeah, this this this does bring the left and the right together very much so. And there's there's a viral tweet that a tweet that went viral. It was posted all over Reddit.

And someone said, if Joe Biden was involved with Epstein, then he should go to prison. If Donald Trump was involved with Epstein, he should go to prison. See, was that so hard? And I'm like, no, it wasn't, because literally everyone agrees. The left. So there's people who are trying to make it seem like Trump supporters are like, well, Trump should get away with it. Everybody agrees.

Release the documents. Show us the book. Show us everybody. show us the tapes i don't care if they're on the left or the right that's it all the more reason to bury it exactly like week yeah that makes a lot of sense luke mentioned divide and conquer so very much important for the for the establishment and this is the one thing that brings us together and it scares the crap out of the establishment it scares the crap out of the corporate media they want this story to go away this decision again i have to this again, this decision with the federal government dropping these charges didn't happen today.

It happened some other time. We don't know when. It happened deliberately in a way, so we do not pay attention to it. And when they are doing all this, it's showing that their propaganda is extremely important for everything that they're doing, and it could be stopped with the truth. All right. Well, let's move on to the next story. It's really hard to get away from that stuff. It's so big.

It's so important. But I saw a clip earlier that made me laugh a lot. It was from Steve Bannon's War Room. And Bannon said that Alex Jones was on the forefront of the transhumanism stuff before everybody. And then he shows a clip of Alex from several years ago just screaming that interdimensional demons have possessed people and are sending the message.

I just thought it was funny. I'm like, I don't know. I don't care. I mean, whatever. It was just it's funny to watch. And oh, that's I just brought that up for no reason, just to mention that it was funny. But we have this story about Alex Jones. Alex Jones threatens to dish dirt on a pathetic Donald Trump for pushing vaccines and tells

his InfoWars listeners to move on from the Republican 2024 front runner. Alex Jones said Wednesday that he will dish all the dirt on Donald Trump now that the former president has come out more definitively in favor of vaccinations. In fact, maybe you know what? To get Trump's attention, maybe I should just dish all the dirt. The far right media personality said on InfoWars, Jones said the impending gossip is not to hurt Trump. It's so people can know how pathetic he is when you think he's playing 4D chess. Trump was booed by his supporters earlier this month when he revealed that he received the COVID-19 booster shot. But I just want to point out, Trump's always been in favor of this. Trump

spearheaded the Operation Warp Speed campaign. He's at his rallies telling people to get it. I don't understand how this is new information, but I do think's interesting i'm wondering what you guys think on alex jones you know what happened was trump had previously said you know he was pro vax but he was against oh trump was previously saying that he was pro vax but against the boosters um and then he said he was against the boosters i don't know i believe i think he was kind of like boosters right and then he hit a point where he's like i got the booster so it was more um it was he was kind of like, boosters, right? And then he hit a point where he's like, I got the booster. So it was more, he was kind of walking it back a little bit. And then it seemed as though he kind of is now more in favor of it. Well, he's definitely in favor of it.

At least what I'm hearing from the Trump supporters that I know is that he had plausible deniability early on. Like he wanted to just get out of a pandemic. He wanted to get out of lockdowns. And that's why he put in Operation Warp Speed into place. And now he sees it as far, insofar as as i understand it he sees the vaccine as his legacy that's why he's at times so desperately trying to make it his legacy but the trump supporters that i know are really angry about this like i know we were talking the other night and you said that most of the people are just like oh you got the booster so what but every trump supporter that i know they're furious at the

fact that he is still pushing it after what they perceive to be there's data that's come out that he should be aware of and i don't know why he's not aware of it didn't trump say that it's hard to criticize biden now because biden congratulated him on the work he did with the vaccine did he say that i believe that i gotta fact check it really quickly but he's on the same side of fauci fauci is also saying donald trump is doing the right thing here and singing trump's praises so uh when when you're on the same side as Biden and Fauci and promoting a big pharma out-of-control, unaccountable, huge institution that doesn't have any liability, there should be a lot of questions here. And what Donald Trump said wasn't backed by science.

He didn't present any data. He didn't present any kind of evidence. He went off and talked in tangents and generalizations about pushing a narrative and agenda that has been shoved on a lot of people it was just a generic mainstream media talking point that didn't explain anything he said you're gonna die if you don't take this essentially trump said yes did trump literally say that um his points what did he what was his words exactly like um we've got to look we're talking about the bill o'reilly interview right no we're talking about the candace owens interview oh so there's a number of interviews where he's he's gone off and talked about this uh so donald trump has been extremely bullish on big

pharma extremely supportive of of you know the trump scene as he calls it and a lot of people are like wait you know where's the science where's the data at least talk to us in a way where you could convince us with information you're not doing that you're kind of speaking in general general platitudes and people are like wait what's going on here so that's the larger question donald trump wants credit for this heraldo said call it the trump vaccine give him credit for this donald trump will never let this go and donald trump cares more about the opinion of the new york times than his own constituents yeah i think that was true with the hiring of John Bolton, with the refusal to fire Fauci. And even now, when there was an interview and they're like, why didn't you fire Fauci?

I can't remember where it was. It might have been Candace Owens. But he was just like, oh, you know how the left gets. And people were like, are you kidding? Is that legit? I don't know what's going to happen in 2024. But I'll tell you this. Donald Trump was the avatar of the rage of populist moderates in this country.

And if there's nowhere to place that rage, it's going to go wild. Donald Trump specifically said eight days ago that those who don't get the shots, those dying in the hospitals, didn't get the shot. Those are his exact words. And again, there's a lot of data. There's a lot of information coming out, whether it's the New York Times, Daily Mail Or even this latest Robert Koch Institute report That kind of cite the opposite of that And there's a lot of debate surrounding that So again, mass generalization

You're going to die if you don't get this Well, there's a lot of information that's up for debate about that What Trump said was, oh no, the vaccine works The ones that get very sick and go to the hospital Are the ones that don't take the vaccine. So he is definitely implying heavily that you may end up definitely at least going to the hospital. Well, it's within a paradigm, right? So it's within a paradigm that you don't have, if you have no, if you're in a paradigm that you have no control over your health or your well-being, right? If you're unhealthy and you believe that there's just this standard American

diet that you can eat and that's it, that's just life, then that is a solution within that paradigm. Other people, you know, in the natural health world, this is viewed as laughable. Like if you start following natural health people that, you know, are incredibly vibrant, right, and you start following them, just follow them on Instagram. Look up the top 10 natural health people that have incredible health, incredibly vibrant. I mean, have you ever heard of Wim Hof, maybe? Yeah. Oh, oh yeah it'd be amazing if you could get him on the show you know but people like that but what's funny is i bet that you couldn't even bring anybody to talk about anything natural on the show because you couldn't even broadcast it so i mean there's so much it would take you down yeah like i haven't been sick in 10 years so much

as a common cold but i'm not going to get into that. So you've got to understand that this is a paradigm that they're in. And this is the problem with not having free speech is that somebody could be correct within a paradigm, but then there could be this whole other paradigm in which there's another way of seeing it. YouTube doesn't care for nuance. And the people who delete videos on social media are typically not versed in politics and can't tell the difference between certain issues. A good example is there was a post on Instagram. It was a famous pro-LGBTQ poem that used slurs, but it was like attacking the slur and then attacking those who would use it. This person who posted it got banned.

And they were like, this is like a very famous poem from the 70s. And Instagram is like, we don't know. We don't care. Then you get there. There was this really funny thing happened when a bunch of white feminists started posting kill all men on Facebook and Facebook started banning them all. And they were like, wait, why are you doing this? And it's like Facebook doesn't care. They don't care about what you're intending to say. They don't care about your nuance. The dude in India who is working on this click farm, reading through this stuff, doesn't know anything about American culture, just sees words he was told to delete, and he deletes them. That's how it works. Exactly. And many times, even including corporate media reports, that power is abused.

People have been putting their own kind of perspective, their own kind of religious ideologies when it comes to censoring information on the internet. And that has been used because a lot of these big tech companies outsource it to different countries. And when different countries have different cultural issues, they implement those cultural issues sometimes when it comes to the censorship. But what happened to Dr. Robert Malone is absolutely awful. He went on, did he go on Rogan today? According to many sources, yes, he did go on Rogan and there's going to be a video published of that. There's a previous video with,

of course, not Robert Malone, but there's another doctor that just Joe Rogan interviewed. McCullough. Those videos were also censored on YouTube when McCullough uploaded it on his own YouTube channel. So, you know, there's a famous saying, when you tear out a man's tongue, you're not proving him a liar.

You're only telling the world that you fear what he might say. And do you know what that comes from? No. Game of Thrones. Yeah, that's what I thought. Tyrion Lannister. Peter Dinklage, who said the reason people didn't like the show is because they wanted the white people to get married or something like that.

I don't know. I don't remember any of those people. Yeah, that was his character. Great. If the show had good writing don't remember any of those people. Yeah, that was his character. Great. If the show had good writing before. That's a great quote. A controversial opinion? I like the ending, but that's a different topic. What did you? I did.

It's unique. It's different. It's not a Disney movie. Excuse me. But before we get into that, before we talk about that, again, the censorship is totally out of control, and Glenn Greenwald really had a great comment about this. He says, I have a sigh of relief knowing I'm ad-libbing here, that I'm protected by college-wearing flip-flop people drinking Starbucks away from scientific debate, keeping us safe from any kind of rational intellectual discourse here. He didn't say it that way,

but he said something like that to that town. Think about Larry King and the people he would have on his show, people who are not prominent and people who had despicable ideas, and he would put them on this major show, show all the people of the world watching. I was at CNN when he was doing the show,

and they would be like, these people are nuts. Now something weird is happening. You have – Peter McCullough, he's a doctor, right? Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. Dr. Malone. And they go on the biggest podcast in the world.

I'm assuming Malone's on the podcast. But they've also been – Malone's also been on Dark Horse with Brett Weinstein. And they talk about their opinions, their medical opinions, and it gets deleted. It's removed from the conversation. There's no opportunity to challenge. So you know what happens? Those ideas find the underground. People in the underground watch it uncritically and believe all of it.

Sometimes they should. Sometimes they shouldn't. But YouTube seems to be either it is they care so much more about making money so they will delete anything remotely controversial creating this hyperpolarization or a form of it. Or they like creating the hyperpolarization and there's something nefarious behind it. Yeah, in the natural health world, the big frustration is that this could have been a moment to get people to look at health and vitality. So the natural health world, you have people that are not only mass again i'm kind of dancing around some things here but it's like massively just infused with vitality i mean if you've seen the wim hof videos of him hiking up mount everest in his underwear right there's these incredible

things that you could be doing so this could have been this this big moment and it didn't have to be mutually exclusive it didn't have to be big pharma or natural but we could have just included that in the conversation you could have the whole country becoming healthier than ever and mandating no don't mandate it but i'm just saying there's that meme where it's like um you know doctors you you can't talk about recommending exercise proper diet sunlight vitamin d even though fauci himself has brought some of this up for the most part, it's not a part of the equation in the mainstream. There's only one solution and that solution is vaccination. My response is, I mean, even Fauci's talked about vitamin D and the

importance of it, but then these politicians and Fauci included want lockdowns, which put people in boxes with no sunlight, they get no vitamin D and then they get sick. I don't even know if natural is necessarily even the right word for the broader picture of just health, just general health. I think he talked about vitamin D once and the Wim Hof method. The Wim Hof has literally broken scientific belief systems with some of the things he's been able to pull off. And as soon as everything happened, I remember just doing the Wim Hof method. As soon as COVID hit, I got on a farm in Pennsylvania and I just started doing cold bats and breathing exercises. And personally, I can't tell you guys what to do, but personally, I saw a lot of results from it. And again, we should be able to have a discussion. We're not medical doctors. We're not

scientists. We're not here to tell you what to do. But these conversations, we should be able to have a discussion. We're not medical doctors. We're not scientists. We're not here to tell you what to do. But, you know, these conversations we should be having in an open platform, and we can't even really do that. So this is why it's important to be – this is why the censorship is bad. And I think everyone gets this, but I'll just iterate it or reiterate it. When I call a doctor, I get COVID, and the doctor says, it's a virus, go to bed. And I was like, okay. I ended up talking to Joe Rogan because I knew he got some kind of treatment. And then he said, look, man, find a better doctor.

Call somebody. And then I called another private practice out here. And I talked to a doctor and they said, I want you to take these specific medications. Here's the problem. That was a doctor telling me what to do. But Don Lemon says not to do that. So, I mean, at what point do we say, oh, we're going to file a lawsuit against these companies for intervening in proper medical care?

When Joe, this is what really pisses me off. Joe Rogan comes out and he says, here's what I got. Someone calls their doctor. The doctor says, I want you to do this. And that person says, no, doc, I won't because Don Lemon told me not to. Is there going to be like a wrongful death suit when CNN makes fun of Joe Rogan for taking horse dewormer and it makes people not want to get medicated? My concern is that people in Africa who need ivermectin for river blindness will now think

it's some kind of sterilizing agent because a bunch of journalists reported that it was. It's insane. So we need to be able to have conversations that are reasonable and rational. But these big tech sensors ain't letting it happen. Let me show you what's going on here. We're going to pull the story from TMZ. We're going to get into danger zone territory on YouTube. But we need to talk about this.

Aaron Rodgers, NFL teams are recommending my COVID medical regiment to treat players. What? Aaron Rodgers, who famously took ivermectin and a concoction of other drugs to fight COVID, says he's 100% sure NFL teams are recommending his same medical regimen to players to get over the virus. The Packers superstar made the claim Tuesday on the Pat McAfee show, insisting that he knows for a fact teams believe his method of staving off coronavirus can work. I do know behind the scenes, this is 100% true. There are many teams who are using,

who are recommending a lot of the same treatments that I got for their players. As we reported, Roger said after he contracted coronavirus in November, that he used a combination of drugs similar to Joe Rogan to recover from the virus quickly. I'm going to tell you this, and we always say it. I don't care for Aaron Rodgers' medical advice. I do find his opinions on how he was treated interesting. Now, if I'm going to take action, it's not going to be because Joe Rogan told me to ingest something. In fact, when Joe Rogan said, take it seriously and try calling, you know, find another doctor, I said, I'll take it seriously because I don't want to end up in a hospital or something like that.

And I found a doctor who said monoclonal antibodies. I said, I know that is an EUA authorized treatments, the Regeneron treatment. I know Trump got it. Okay, let's do it. They gave it to us. They also said they wanted to take us a bunch of other drugs, including ivermectin, to which I said, I don't think I need it because the monoclonal antibodies, in my view, worked within 12 hours. I was feeling better. I was feeling like I was recovering. Everything, like the pain was gone. It was incredible. And I said, why should I take

this? And they said, I, your doctor, have prescribed you a series of medications and you need to take what I prescribe. And I said, fine. The problem is when people in the NFL are getting that same prescription from doctors, but regular people are being told not to follow their own doctor's orders because of YouTube, because of CNN, because of Don Lemon, we're going to have very serious problems in this country. Because I will say, your doctor should be the person prescribing this to you. And then you look at what they're talking about. Didn't Joe Rogan also say that Congress got similar treatment? Something is wrong when we can't have a conversation about what this is,

when doctors are prescribing it, when high-profile institutions are reportedly prescribing it, but you're banned for bringing it up. Yeah, and they're getting better, and everyone else is told to go home. We haven't even prioritized early treatment. And secretly, the NFL, so no one finds out, according to Aaron Rodgers, is doing the treatments that the mainstream media, the establishment, the politicians are telling you not to take.

And they're not doctors. Exactly. The problem I have, and I've tweeted about this a lot, is that these people are like, oh, I drove into a parking lot, and someone just gave me a shot. And I'm like, did your doctor advise you to do? Did you go and talk to a doctor? Talk about, look.

Allergies, maybe. Allergies. Guillain-Barre syndrome. I know it's incredibly rare, but I'm wondering if what we're getting in the VAERS reports could be attributed to people who aren't getting proper advice from medical professionals. So at the same time, YouTube and all these other platforms are like, we don't want medical misinformation. I'm like, didn't stop Fauci. Didn't stop. Oh, but Fauci is the authority. So he's allowed to be wrong and then correct himself later. Now, this is a ridiculous game. It's an absolutely ridiculous game.

My recommendation is to always talk to a doctor, get a second opinion. We're not medical experts. Neither is YouTube. Neither is Aaron Rodgers. Neither is the NFL. But neither is Don Lemon. So when you hear these things are being prescribed by doctors, we need to be able to have conversations about what that means. I'm just pissed about this. The viewpoint for health in the East, for example, would be say that you have a business and you have payroll, right? You don't get to the point where you're in cash flow deficits. You don't get to the point where you're in cash flow deficits. You don't get to the point where you're behind on paying your staff.

You want to have this big cash reserve where you're ahead of the game and you have such a big cash reserve that if you lose a little bit of cash, it doesn't hurt your business. So the Eastern philosophy of health is that you get so far ahead in your health that if you take a little knock, it's not going to impact you the same way that if you're behind. So the Western view is more reactive. The Eastern view is more proactive.

But even me, I've had a great run of 10 years without having any problems. I'll never make a video on that. No way. And you think people like LeBron James and Tom Brady who know this, you think that they're not aware of it and they have to make a decision. Do I want to speak up? You know, LeBron kind of had his little Spider-Man meme where that's his not aware of it and they have to make a decision do i want to speak up you know lebron kind of had his little spider-man meme where that's his way of getting it out tom's just mad about that yeah yeah tom tom's just like oh yeah i did it i mean

so the point being is like we imagine a system where somebody as famous and powerful as lebron james or tom brady might even feel uncomfortable to give their actual opinion about these things. Somebody like Aaron Rodgers, he just kind of old school. He's like, well, you know, like he doesn't even know what's going on. So he just speaking like old school. He doesn't even know the change in culture that's happened. And people like Aaron Rodgers that are more and more old school. There's going to be less and less of them as time goes on and lessons change.

Yeah. The establishment treatment for this is the vaccine. We also have to understand that. No, not treatment. A preventative. Yeah. The establishment's answer to all of this is the vaccine we also have to understand that not a treatment a preventative yeah the establishment's answer to all of this is the vaccine right it's their bottom line there's vaccine mandates within the nfl within the nba which also should be sparking a lot of questions like okay they're they're all vaccinated what's really going on here when they're still

getting sick here and they're professional athletes in the top of their health that should be a question that we should at least be able to kind of even talk about or conceive i'll say i want to make sure i say this too look aaron rogers could be wrong i'm not going to pretend that just because he said something is definitive we would need to do some some fact checking and get some confirmation it's very difficult i would also like to bring up though um we just broke a record in the united states for a 24-hour period of of COVID cases being reported. New York City, overwhelming. And we've had people, guests on the show from New York tell us like, yeah, everybody, they know they got it and it was bad. And so I don't know. I'm not a doctor. I'm not a scientist. Don't work

for Pfizer. But I do have some questions about what's happening with the majority of New Yorkers who are vaccinated but still getting sick. That can't be a breakthrough case anymore, can it? Could it just be that the vaccine isn't stopping the variants at all? Well, again, we don't know a lot of this because a lot of the data is being hidden away from us. The CDC director just announced after major corporations asked her to stop the quarantine from 10 days to five days. She just came out on CNN today and said, quote, it really had a lot to do with what we thought people would be able to tolerate, explaining her decision to why she shortened the quarantine time after major corporations asked her to do so. That's not science.

That's not anything definitive that actually might help people or not help people. What made you come down to this decision, what we're going to tolerate? There's a lot of implications behind those words. Yo, I'm so done with the social media guidelines or whatever because they're out of date. They make no sense. They make no sense at all. The science has changed so often and so quickly

and then changed again that I don't even know what the rules are at this point. It's like, can we talk about one of the most famous quarterbacks in the world saying what the NFL is doing and Joe Rogan? No idea. Literally no idea. So I'm just waiting for that Van Hammer any moment because they're just like, someone at YouTube, I'll tell you what's going to happen because we've seen it to other people. Crowder cites the CDCdc strike yeah he was reading the cdc uh who was it um this there was a cdc article that was labeled fake news on facebook do you guys remember that none of this it's it's look maybe just the system is imploding maybe at some point when we had all these different when we had like five different channels and all the news came from these very specific sources. It was easy to control a narrative.

Now, there's no controlling it. It's just smaller tribes throwing mud at each other and YouTube is like, they've got a lot of power. And so like we're banning all of this. Meanwhile, the NFL is doing this. It's like I don't even know how you define what's mainstream anymore. Is a celebrity famous? No idea. No idea.

I don't think so. I think we fractured such an extreme degree nothing is making sense yeah what do you make sense of it like what's your sense of it owen how do you make sense of all this from your like perspective understanding the social dynamics anything that i any anything that i make an argument i you've heard the idea of a straw man argument okay so straw man argument is where you attack the weakest possible position of that argument okay and you've probably had that done on you tim i bet you you've had that done where somebody takes what you say we like to steal a man yeah yeah we have a steel man right so so

you know what it feels like to have somebody completely cut you out of context make you take jokes that you said that you you know didn't even mean um turn you into a cartoon character i mean look what's happened to alex you mentioned alex jones before who i've learned about from your show and it's like look at what's been done to him it's completely insane um and it doesn't mean he's perfect all the time but look at how they cut him out of context they'll cut people out of context so what i do is i try to do the courtesy of somebody who i disagree with i try to do the steel man argument for what they're doing so if you look at something like censorship i ask myself, what is the steel man argument for that much of a violation of the First Amendment? But it's not doing them a courtesy.

It's for you. Agreed. Everyone listening, if you want to truly win an argument, you must argue against their strongest position. It's easy to try to argue against the weak position, but it also makes you look weak. I don't know if you guys saw that video of Madison Cawthorn punching the tree. You see that one? I think it's Madison Cawthorn. Like, the left likes playing it all the time.

It shows him punching a tree that's rotted out. And I'm like, you guys don't look strong for making fun of a dude, like, making fun of this dude. You know what I mean? You're going after possibly the weakest possible thing. It has nothing to do with his political arguments. It does not make it look like

they have anything substantive to say because they're making fun of a video of him punching a tree. I'm like, what does that tree have to do with my taxes? Okay, so what is the strongest possible version, you know, for example, with what's happened in 2020 of the need to censor? So they would say things like misinformation. So what if somebody who's very, very charismatic, right? Human beings do respond to charisma. We respond to who's the most certain of themselves, right? And then, you know, one of the big arguments for censorship is they say freedom of speech is not freedom of reach. So yes, you

have your free speech to do in your basement, but you know, you shouldn't have that. The big tech doesn't owe that to you to amplify that. That's what they would say, right? So then imagine a world where big tech didn't censor. And then all of a sudden, some super charismatic person is like, you know, take the pear. You just eat a pear. And then everyone's like, pear, pear, pear, pear. It's like pear, pear, pear, pear. So it's kind of coming from a mindset that the average person is too naive and dumb not to fall in with somebody who's very charismatic. And so what that tells me, if you value the First Amendment, is you've got to start saying

to yourself, well, why is it that people are being framed as stupid? People are being framed as naive? And what would it take to get our population to a point where they are capable of seeing multiple different arguments and not going pair, pair, pair, pair? Like, what does it take to get to that point? What do we have to change in our education system to get to that point? Because the ultimate answer could never be getting rid of the First Amendment. That's not the answer, right?

But if the steel man argument is, what about the pair guy? It's going to destroy the world. Well, if that's the counter argument, then what would be our response back to that? We need to teach more critical thinking. We need to teach people how to have the ability to look at multiple different sources of information and to parse through it and to see what is accurate. There's a couple of really good ways to look at this. When COVID happens, I say, okay, if I want to go out to eat, there's a risk. We got COVID. I know how bad it is. There's a risk. I'm willing to accept certain risks to have my freedom.

And I would never tell you not to go out to eat because I'm scared. The other side of this are the people who live in big cities who are like, I'm scared. So you shouldn't be able to go out and get food. The two different factions are basically, are you willing? Are you demanding someone else take action for you? Or are you willing to take action for yourself and to protect others? You know what I mean? I'll be on the street. So I live in Hollywood, right, in Los Angeles, and I'll be on the street.

And if I don't have a mask on, you'll hear people shrieking out the window like, put on your mask. And you can almost tell it's somebody who's never had status before. And they finally have the ability. Like they've always wished like that day is coming when I'm going to get to yell at people and put them in their place, right? You can almost feel it in their nervous system that they're not used to being able to do that. And they finally get to run up on you and say, put that on right now. And they haven't done the research. They don't have – their opinion is not based on any real critical thinking. But they've just got that big moment, you know, just,

just to make a problem and so on and so forth. And the thing that it did to me living in LA, um, was that it alienated me from Los Angeles in a great way, because being around so many people that don't have critical thinking, and they just kind of go along with that. I found it to be terrifying. And it got to the point that even with my children, I started just traveling the country and bringing my kids outside into Montana, where there's grizzly bears and teach them how to manage themselves around wildlife and teach them critical thinking

because I'm terrified that there's been a breach in the social contract. I just believe that the people who we could normally look up to and just say, okay, they've got our best interest. There's been a breach in that. And so now I've got to train my children like, hey, think for yourself, think for yourself, think for yourself think for yourself think for yourself be adventurous don't

be afraid don't fall into safetyism and i've got to train them on that um and i also think that that when you start using collective action for things that are maybe a little heavy-handed and overreach what it does is it takes future situations that we might need collective action like in that movie don't look up we may need collective action but if you're going to be the boy who cries wolf about any little thing then someday when we need collective action we're not going to trust them and so that's creating just this total that's that that point is actually made in the film what what i uh what i really liked about don't look up is as much as i felt it was very lefty perspective is that they they they didn't all put

it this way some of the arguments they made were steel man arguments so the minor spoiler alert just want to make sure everybody hears this before I say this next point on a big plot point but there's a point in the film where the president basically says great like hole in the ozone you know climate change plagues nuclear war terror we've heard it all before prove it and i was like we're supposed to be rooting for these scientists who are just like trust this this picture we have and i'm like that's actually not a bad point the idea that the entire world would react and take collective action based on a handful of people who are trying to assert their right when when we are a decentralized power structure.

It's not so simple. Yeah, it was a good movie, Chris. I told you so. But anyway, Joe Rogan made a very good point. I tweeted out this video, and it's him pretty much saying, you know, I worked on my health almost my entire life. I've taken supplements. I worked out.

I've taken care of myself. And then you have literally obese people that have never taken responsibility for themselves, have never taken care of their body, who are telling me that I need to do a certain thing for them when they're not the ones that are taking care of themselves. This is absolutely absurd. He had other more kind of French words for it. But he makes a very good point because a lot of these people who are screaming at you that are telling you what to do are some of the people who haven't taken their responsibility,

who haven't taken that important role in their life and said, okay, this is something that I need to critically think about. This is not something that is going to go away if everyone does what I say or if everyone wears a mask. It's not. It's going to go away once you start taking care of yourself. We start worrying about the terrain. We start talking about the treatments. And again, what would happen here with with Aaron Rogers, we got to support him. That's why I put his jersey behind me. He's getting attacked by a lot of corporate media institutions. So is Kyrie Irving. He's coming back to the NBA in a very poetic way. But there's so many of these individuals, they deserve our support because they're actually speaking out against these larger truths when a lot of people are afraid to do so, or they're just screaming just nonsense, muffled nonsense behind their masks.

I have a question. Has there been any other time that you can think of where the older generations sacrificed the young for their safety? We have this story from timcast.com, teen facing two years in prison for violating COVID rules in Australia. The 19-year-old teen was arrested after visiting a nightclub in South Australia following a positive COVID-19 test. Now, I want to be real with everybody. Kind of a dick move. All right. When we all got COVID here, we said, everybody, if you're not sick, work remotely. We don't want you to get sick. And for the people who are sick, when you're better, like unlimited sick time. Just do your work.

Do what you can. Hang out. Play video games. Have a good time. Consider it a vacation. I hope you get better. I think anyone eligible for the treatment here ended up getting it. Some people who are sick weren't here and didn't get it.

And then I said, before you come back, I want you to feel better and take a test. We'll get you a test. I don't know. What are they, 20 bucks? We're not going to mandate them forever. We're only asking you to do this because you are sick right now. And if you're still sick until testing positive, yo, just stay home. We're not going to stop paying you. We're like, do your thing.

For this teen to know he's sick and be like, I'm going to go out anyway, dick move. But prison for this? Right. It feels like there are scared older people who are the most susceptible, and I can respect that they're scared. But to, let me stop right now. Fukushima, when the reactor went off or broke and melted down and the radiation spewing all over, Luke and I actually went there. We actually went and filmed various stories and mini docs about this. The elderly decided they would go into the reactor to shut to try and stop it and clean it up, knowing it would kill them because

they said, we've lived our lives and we must do this for the young. And I'm just like, man, think about that. These are people who are like, I've lived my life. Now I'm going to die to save the next generation. What we have here in Europe and the United States is the inversion of that. It's older people who are like, I don't want to get sick. Tell them to stay in their cubicles and take away their jobs

and their income and their resources and give the money to Walmart. It's remarkable. That is cultural decay to a point where I don't see us surviving. It's, to me, the way that I've perceived this personally is like, say the right wing is pro gun

and then you had a locust infestation and there's locusts everywhere and then the right wing is like yes and then everyone has to have a gun now you have to have a gun and you have to have a gun and you have to have a gun and you everyone needs a gun shoot the locust right and you're like you don't really need a gun to shoot the locust like yes you do you're not going to defend us we'll all die if you don't have a gun to me this is the ultimate wish list for people who like to strip rights it just it's like the perfect situation it doesn't mean that a lot of things they say aren't accurate i think a lot of it is accurate but it is a perfect wish stream it's the perfect situation it provides the perfect justification and so here's here's my favorite part it would the extension of this this logic would be like if people that are more self-responsible

came along and they said i've worked to become someone who doesn't get triggered and i'm not sensitive i'm unoffendable because you can actually work on that that's a real thing you can i teach this i do it you can really really work to be unoffendable right yeah you could just like i will teach this will sound crazy, but I'll teach courses where like, I'll have all my students put me in a circle and just start yelling insults at me. I just have to sit there

and I have to deal with it. And then I'll get them to go in a circle. And then you realize that you're like, why do I care about words? This doesn't matter at all. You can easily get out of this. You build your confidence. If you're not so much in your ego,

if you view it as a joke, you don't take it so personally, you can actively work on that, right? So what if people who had worked on that were to say, you know, it's illegal for you to be offended? Or let's say somebody who worked on their health said it's illegal for you not to be healthy, which is kind of what they did with the drug war. And I don't believe in that. Or what if somebody who's worked to become wealthy said, if you let yourself go broke, that's illegal, because it's going to cause a problem for me? Or what if somebody who's worked on critical thinking

and how to look at multiple different arguments or misinformation and learns how to not be affected by that or influenced by that? And then I said, if you're naive, there's a mandate against being naive. So what they've done is they've used that kind of logic to create a situation that, frankly, I mean, you're going to have most freedom-oriented people moving to Texas, moving to Florida, moving to Wyoming. But if you've ever read the second book in the Bible, Exodus, it's beginning to look like Exodus, where people are like, I don't want to be a part of the satanic system. I want to get out of here. I'm moving to where people are free. And Tim, I think you were one of the people who first brought this up, where you said there could be parallel economies.

I mean, things could get pretty crazy if they keep doing this. They're already pretty crazy. And I just wanted to point out, I would use my flamethrower on the locust. I think that's more of a reasonable thing to do. But sorry, Tim, you were saying something. No, yes, parallel economies. So you were already seeing it. There was a news article about Dan Bongino. They were smearing him. He's got one of the biggest podcasts in the world, but he's an investor in and utilizes specific technology companies and financial companies that won't ban him.

And they're mad about it. The Media Matters guy was like, it used to just be that if there was a right winger, you could just call up your friends, the company, and they'd ban them. It's not literally what he said, but you get my point. He's like, now we can't. OK, that's a problem. It's not a problem that the right has found a new a new path towards you know being able to speak and and flourish the problem is that you abused your

positions and created this fracture that's the problem we don't want this country divided we want this country united but when you have ideologues cultists and they're doing this they're abusing people they're abusing people. They're taking away people's livelihoods like Patreon did. I'm surprised people still use Patreon because the risk to your life. I'll tell you this. Patreon banned two people without warning, taking away all of their income. This was several years ago, and it led to an exodus. And there are still people I talk to. I'm like, like there are people I know, people have had on the show. I'm like, I'm on Patreon. I'm like, why? They will not know, people have had on the show. I'm like, I'm on Patreon. I'm like, why?

They will not give you a warning before they take your income away. Get off Patreon. I mean, look, there's issues. We've criticized locals, but locals is still better than Patreon. Yeah, and this is what they do also in China. If you violate the law, if you jaywalk,

they automatically with facial recognition, take a photo of you and deduct money out of your bank account. In Australia, they're also going after people's bank accounts. As in October, they collected $5.2 million in fines for COVID violations. They seized people's homes. They seized their bank accounts. They took away their business licenses for not following decrees. So I think even with the financial system that we have right now, a lot of people are seeing its weaknesses. A lot of people are seeing how fragile it is.

And a lot of people are seeing what kind of a con game it really is. And that parallel kind of economy is already happening. And I think it's happening with crypto. And I think it's pretty evident with a lot of people saying, I trust this random boob coin rather than of course the US dollar. And I think that's becoming more prevalent by the day because the US dollar is becoming more of a joke than boob coin rather than, of course, the U.S. dollar.

And I think that's becoming more prevalent by the day because the U.S. dollar is becoming more of a joke than boob coin. And it's only a matter of time until these parallel economies are conflicted with each other and contradict each other. I want people to understand something, too. YouTube, it's really fascinating. YouTube has one of the lowest – I don't know what the right word is for it. It's not necessarily CPM, but I think it was TI who posted this. He said, here's how many streams of a song you'll need to get to earn $1 on these platforms. And on YouTube, it was like 1,215 streams to get $1. On Napster, it was like 53. People need to understand this. There's a lot

of people who are on YouTube. We're on YouTube, but we understand, and I've understood this for a long time. YouTube is actually a very low value incentive for podcasts and for businesses. This is why so many people don't care. This is why Joe Rogan only puts clips up on YouTube. He's on Spotify. He knows podcast platforms, substantially more valuable. They reach regular people. YouTube meets, uh, reaches for the most part, people who are in the weeds, who are very politically affiliated. Now YouTube is extremely valuable. I'm not saying it's not valuable at all. I'm just saying it's one of the least valuable platforms. What YouTube does offer up is free marketing and they know it. So for us,

this is why early in the year we were like, we need to make a website. We need to start doing news. We need to stop relying on mainstream news sources. And that's why we're heavily focused on memberships and not just YouTube. Oh my God. I think BoobCoin is an actual real coin. I'm not here giving you any financial advice. I literally just made up two words out of my mind. I'm not here telling you to invest in BoobCoin. I'm seeing the comments. They're like, BoobCoin's real. BoobCoin's real.

You should, this is the, I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Not telling you guys what to do here. Don't know anything about BoobCoin. I literally just made it up. Please be more financially responsible, please. So here's a couple of challenges that I've seen with what you're talking about here. So one of the challenges that I've seen is that

as soon as somebody would create an alternate platform, the type of people that most people wouldn't want to be associated with will initially flock there. So that creates an initial branding, right? And so there's this kind of messed up argument that people don't get in my view, which is this. Say that I say to you right now, are you pro-crime, right? You're going to answer, no, I'm not pro-crime. Well, actually. Yeah, okay. Look, to be completely honest, if it was a political debate between left and right, and a right-wing person was like, are you pro-crime? They would be like, what is that supposed to mean? There would be no straight answer. Got it. Okay. So let's say that, hypothetically, you're saying, no, I'm not pro-crime.

So say that I say to you, okay, well, if you're not pro-crime, then what I'm going to do is on every single street corner, I'm going to put somebody there who's going to frisk you. Every single street corner that you go to, there's going to be somebody there, and they're going to go in who knows what place to frisk you, right? Full body cavity search. Yes, full body cavity search. And by the way, if you don't want the full body cavity search yes full body cavity search and by the way if you don't

want the full body cavity search you are pro-crime and then you say i'm not pro-crime uh i just want the full body cavity search and they say what are you gonna say to that person who had a crime conflicted against them because you would not allow the full body cavity is you not wanting to have your cavity search at each corner worth it for what happened to little jimmy over here they're doing what are you gonna say to little jimmy who was affected if they would have full body cap do you support antifa no so you're so you're pro-fascist that's literally what they do and you're like no yeah but antifa literally killed people but so they're rioting so the media works works on optics it works on click well actually individuals yeah so if you're so if

you're trying to be pro full body cavity search search on every single corner, all that you need to do is find five or ten really, really horrific crimes and say, look what happened to little Jimmy. And little Jimmy's like, I just want the cavity search. And it's like, do you care about little Jimmy? And they can keep doing that again and again. But it doesn't mean that you're pro crime. It just means that the cure is worse than the disease. We got it. We got it. We got it.

We got it. Man, we need to get – I was talking to Seamus from Freedom Tunes about like comedy writing and doing some bits. And that would be a really great bit where it's like an infomercial. Like last year, little Jimmy was attacked on the street because there were no body cavity searches on street corners. It's like really extreme security state stuff. And then you get like a crying kid and it plays like sarah mclaughlin or whatever so so if you're a business um and this is one i think one of the challenges with you know the typical american individualism right where in america we say you know you kind of handle your own i mean what we're you know back in the day we would

have said you handle your thing i'll handle my thing so what you have is that you have on one side you have collectivism on the other side, you have individualism, right? So if you're running a business and then you see another, if you, you see that another business was impacted by this whole little Jimmy phenomenon, you could say, Hey, that's BS. I don't support that. This guy is not pro crime. He just, he just doesn't want body cavity searches. But if you're running your business, you just kind of keep your head down and you don't say anything. So in collectivism, they'll all stick up for each other. But in individualism, there's less of that. So as a result, they will stick up for each other very, very quickly.

Individualists won't. Even when, depending on your source, it's like 26 to 36 dead in the George Floyd riots. They will unabashedly, unashamed, they will bail these people out. Their allies in positions of power will support it without question. And then you look at the Republicans. The Republicans are like one of our members of Congress had a naughty word. So we've stripped them of all committee and booted them from the party. And then Ilhan Omar is like, I'm just going to keep talking to the Democrats who are like,

we literally will do nothing. We will literally do nothing. And then the funny thing is, because these people don't read the news, the Democrats just claim it's actually the Republicans doing it. And they believe it. There you go. Antifa can go around smashing windows, beating minorities, screaming racial slurs in Portland, which I've personally witnessed and has been reported numerous times.

And the left will defend them tooth and nail. They literally have people getting on their knees for them in support. There's a lot of other psychologists that you were talking about. Oh, and that got my attention. Let me play the video. It's an old video. I've posted it before. I've posted it again.

The more followers I get, the more I want to keep playing this video. Here you go. Is there audio for this? Racism, anti-blackness, or violence? About racism, anti-blackness, or violence. About racism, anti-blackness, or violence. I will use my voice in the most uplifting way possible. I will use my voice in the most uplifting way possible. Let me explain for those that are not watching and can only hear.

It is thousands, thousands of people sitting down with their hands in the air as the preacher of social justice makes a statement and everyone just like drones. I will use my voice. This is a cult. Now, if you want to complain about Trump supporters all act worshiping the Trump in the ground he walks on. Yes, but that's the exception, not the rule that is few and far between. There are people who are like that, but that's not the majority of people who are libertarian, moderate, or even voted for Trump.

A lot of people who voted for Trump don't like the guy, but they hate the establishment and they don't want to be in your cult. So what happens when you don't feel safe within yourself is that your mind will not allow you to think beyond which opinions allow you to feel more safe. So, you know, for example, like one of the reasons why things like Christianity or religion are actually very powerful is that if you believe that you have a life beyond the body, that allows you to open your mind to a range of different thoughts because you're not as afraid of getting killed. You feel like there's something beyond this, right? But even just basic level confidence allows you to think beyond what you're just supposed to pipe back. So this concept of say, some people call it virtue signaling is this idea

that, you know, for some people, if they don't feel safe, their mind is not scanning saying, is this accurate? Can I find statistics on this? Can I even question those statistics? Can I look at multiple sources? Their mind is going to, what will get me props when I say this? And so I think to improve this problem of people that will say, just do whatever gets them props in the crowd. You can remember back to being back in grade school, some of the trends that were popular and how the kids would just try to jump in. They're like, I'm cool now, right? Is this cool?

Is that cool? And kids would even beat up other friends because they weren't popular anymore, things like that. And the cool thing about being an adult was when you finally get to get away from that you're like i don't have to be cool in high school anymore i could just say what i really think but now society is evolving to where it's bringing it back to that where you have to be hyper aware of what what the hive mind is thinking and if you say something outside of that it can cost you your career it can cost you your life i mean it's totally crazy so i I think that I had a moment

like this in Berkeley during the riots in like 2018, where I had a GoPro and a gimbal. So I'm walking around with this little thing. I'm filming what's going on. There's police. And I'm talking to someone when all of a sudden this woman starts talking to me. So that's arguing, not like a fierce argument, but she hears what I'm saying. She hears what I'm talking about. And then immediately starts to interject. So I turn to this woman on a public street. And she's talking. So I ask her questions. There was a woman who was attacked by Antifa and left bloody.

Why? Well, she was wearing something that was conservative. And so this woman told me, well, maybe she shouldn't wear that in an area where she knows someone might get mad about it. And I said, so you think it's her fault for wearing the wrong clothes and that she should have worn something different? She wouldn't have gotten attacked. And she goes, yes. And I was like, so you think it's her fault for wearing the wrong clothes and that, you know, she should have worn something different. She wouldn't have gotten attacked. And she goes, yes. And I was like, so you think it was the victim's fault? She's like, yeah. And then I was like, okay, well, thank you for your time. Then after about a minute, she runs back over to me. She

goes, no, no, no, don't use any of that. Don't use any of that. And I was like, you walked up to me and started talking. And she's like, you're not allowed to use that footage. I feel the reason she did that was because she had real opinions, real opinions that a lot of people have. Like, yo, if you stuff your wallet, if you go to an ATM and pull out a thousand bucks and then walk in a dark alley whistling about how much, how you got money and you get robbed, people are going to be like, why were you doing that? It's a bummer. You got robbed. The burglars, the robbers are the criminals, but that was kind of dumb. Regular people would say that. But the modern left is like, don't blame the victim when it happened. Well, this woman genuinely felt

there is some responsibility to be safe and to understand what you're getting yourself into. But when she realized it went against the mob and the cult, then she was like, delete it, don't use it. I blurred her face because I don't think she matters as a public figure. I put the video up. I blurred her face because I thought what think she matters as a public figure. I put the video up. I blurred her face because I thought what the person was saying and the ideology of the person was more important, and I don't want to cause any conflict for the individual. But people needed to hear all of that, including her attempts to recant and say, no, no, no, I don't like that. They're scared of the mob. They're scared of their own political ideology. Well, hold on. This concept, Owen, that you said of the hive mind is also a very important one that I think we should expand on so people understand what's going on because I kind of see this hive mind being controlled by

the algorithms, by big tech monopolies, by intelligence agencies, and a lot of powerful people that are able to influence what we see online and therefore change our perceptions of what the world is and what is acceptable and not acceptable. How would you define the hive mind and how do you think it plays into all of this? Okay. So, well, I want to lead into that by saying that when I see this clip up here, part of me, like part of it, I think is beautiful. These are people that are trying to make the world better. They could be watching TV.

There's a million things they could be doing and they're there believing they're making the world better. And I think there is aspects of what they're doing that makes the world better. I'm sure if we were to meet any of these individuals or brought them here, we'd want to be their friend. We'd probably have a lot of love for them, right? They're trying to do something better. I think what turns people off that are critical thinkers

is that there's a sort of an energy to it of I'm not thinking. It's like I am repeating back what I'm told. So there's something uh there's a great book that you can read that would probably offer a lot of clarification anybody learning about this called the winner effect and this idea of oh you can also look up uh robert sapolsky he talks about uh you know serotonin an immune system and dopamine in baboons based on hierarchy and so what happens that in a baboon tribe robert sapolsky he studied this he's an incredible scientist

i mean in the book the winner effect he talks about it too is that when you feel like you're winning your dopamine goes up your serotonin goes up according to robert sapolsky again i'm not a scientist but what i how i had understood him he said even your immune system goes up and so and they show this whole documentary about it's really really cool you gotta look it up it's totally insane so maybe you've had a moment in your life where you're around you know friends and you're at a party where everybody likes you and you feel safe and you feel well received. Maybe you got a new shirt on, you feel good and your whole body feels good. Your mind's working a little better and you can talk and talk.

It's a beautiful feeling to have. Right. Well, for most of us, the way that we earn that in a more individualistic society is we try to add more value to society to do better and to raise in the hierarchy by offering more and doing better. Right. But if somebody feels alienated from that reality and that they can't make it, they've lost their buy-in that they can make it in that reality, then you can begin to see a different pocket. Now, particularly with the internet, which internet is amazing both for critical thinking

if you can get off platform and look at other sources, but it's also very, very good for collectivism, right? It's like it's the perfect tool for collectivism. And so what starts to happen is that if you get this collective group that says, you can gain status by having more grievance, you can gain status by feeling more victimized, you can gain status by repeating back

the mantras of the group, they're getting dopamine from that. And more likes and more engagement and better playing the algorithm if you do play along these certain rules which is also critically important because that dopamine hit is linked exactly to how many uh reactions they get and what type of reactions they get and a lot of that is manipulated sorry go ahead it's also funny to think that you know if you're driving down the street in la and you're like put on your mask you know you do that they're

getting a hit of dopamine from that now what do we know about dopamine well people who do certain things like that they get i don't know what we're doing here on youtube but you know you do that they're getting a hit of dopamine from that now what do we know about dopamine well people who do certain things like that they get i don't know what we're doing here on youtube you know right but you know that kind of stuff right they um they wind up uh one thing that they joke about with people who deal with with addiction to that is like it's kind of like ruffles bet you can't eat just one they say like there's never like a half empty bag of that like they'll keep pumping it till the bag is gone. And so if you're somebody who's never had dopamine, you've never had that winter effect, maybe you feel like

your brain is shut down. And then all of a sudden they tell you, you could be a hero by screaming out your car and by repeating back the mantras and by saying all the bad things that happen.

And you're like, oh, I've never felt this way. It feels so right. It feels so right. That's why speaking out is so important. Shaming people. Look, you need to mock them.

Belittle them. This woman on the plane who spit in the old guy's mouth because he wasn't wearing a mask. Dude was eating. He was eating and drinking. She's like, put on your mask. And she took her mask down. Everybody laughing at that lady and making fun of her. Look, there's a, there's, there's a limit, but the news about her, I'm sure will

discourage people from being that Karen as they described her. Okay. So having a disincentive is powerful, but again, like what I have found with people is that if you really give them a dissent, it's super powerful, but if you give people a chance and you get to know them and you learn their story, you'll no longer see them as like, you know, a Karen, you'll see them as a human being who's maybe suffering. Okay. I've just seen this. And so my thing is like due to the culture war and Tim, you were one of the first people who put it in my mind that like we could be heading towards a civil war. And I was like,

whoa. And I, and parallel economies. And I agree with you on that. Um, I think at this point, we've got to start looking back to people like Stephen Covey, who says things like seek first to understand, then to be understood. So the story that he tells is that he's on a subway. That's brilliant. Yeah. And he says, there's these kids that are screaming on the subway. And he's like, look, could you tell your kids to quiet down? And she looks at him and says, you know, their dad died a month ago.

And this was the first time I've seen them happy. So I agree with you that they should have been quieter, but I just didn't want to stop them. And the thing is that I grew up actually kind of like what you call having Asperger's, lightly autistic. And I grew up probably as the kind of person, to be honest, if it wasn't for the intervention of self-development, I would have been sitting there in that group like, I promise, and I would have been getting dopamine like, yeah.

I will use my white voice to aid my black allies. Yeah, and I want to help all people in general anyway. But the point is, the issue there is not that they want to help. Helping is amazing. It's that you can feel intuitively. As a general vibe, you can feel that they're in a hive mind. It would feel different if you could see that people were saying it really because they believe it, not just trying to get a dopamine hit.

The people could be saying the exact same thing, but if it was from their own critical judgment, it would feel different. We need to make a film, maybe we'll do a short film. And I always say stuff like this, like as if we're going to do it, but you know,

where it's people choosing to become zombies. You know, in most zombie movies, they're like, oh no, I'm becoming, I don't want to be a zombie run. It's got to be a lot of people being like, why are you going out there on purpose? Like, don't you want to join in? This is cool. I don't have to think.

No, no. It's like this. Like there's a horde of zombies in the street just like mauling and eating people. And then someone's like, whoa, what's going on out there? And there's smart people being like, dude, those are zombies. They're killing and eating people. There's a bunch of people. They're like cheering and stuff.

I want to be a part of that. And you're like, no, don't. And they go outside. They're like, yeah. And they get bit. They're killing and eating people. There's a bunch of people. They're like cheering and stuff. I want to be a part of that. And you're like, no, don't. And they go outside. They're like, yeah. And they get bit. They're like, all right. And then they're like, yes, zombie. Free food, no responsibility ever.

Actually, what's really interesting is about the movie Don't Look Up is that whenever we get these films about like Deep Impact or Armageddon or what was the one where they go into the core? The core. That's what it's called. Oh, yeah. It's always like, or 2012 or the day after tomorrow, they're like, I've got a serious problem.

The earth is in trouble. And then all the military leaders are like, what can we do about this? And they're like, we must bring together a mission. And then in Don't Look Up, they're like, we have a serious problem. And then the president's just like, and this is spoilers. You've been warned. The president's like, okay, midterms is in three weeks. So if we sit on this, now that's a little extreme, but I like the contrast, this idea

that it's going to be like the movies. It's just not true. If they're, if they're, we are watching right now, people in a cult holding their hands up, chanting their mantras. And they think the, they think they would be the people rejecting Hitler? They think they'd be the people resisting slavery? Yo, you are marching in lockstep without thinking for two seconds.

You would be right along with all of the despots and all of the mindless hordes that have committed all the atrocities throughout history. But Tim, Tim, it's easier just to follow orders, you know? Yeah, like the NYPD, like the NYPD going to a five-year-old and But Tim, Tim, it's easier just to follow orders. Yeah, like the NYPD. Like the NYPD going to a five-year-old and being like, papers, please. And the kid goes, I'm five. And they're like, out. Yeah, absolutely disgusting.

Psychopaths. But, Owen, I wanted to kind of go to you here. You work with people one-on-one. How do you wake people up? What can we do to help alleviate from your perspective from how you break people out of the trance? What lessons could we learn from you in the digital kind of world? Okay. So, well, I'm going to talk about that, but I also want to talk about why I think systemically this has become such a problem. Okay. So when you have collectivism, there's an incentive to look out for the collective. Now,

in individualism, imagine that right now you say, okay, so the people that are likely to wind up in a cult are people who maybe don't know how to manage their health, perhaps don't know how to manage their money, perhaps get offended very easily, perhaps struggle with critical thinking, perhaps struggle with dopamine. So you want to have a reality where people are all coming up. So the way that I deal with this is that I try to teach people how to have their come up. I do this in a major way. And to be honest, a big part of what I do is like, I, I kind of give people a hard time about areas that they're struggling. And then I try to help them to elevate past that and help them to find a new safe zone where they're doing better. Okay. Now, what I've even seen is that if there's a video that I put out where I'm really breaking somebody down and giving them critical feedback,

people will actually pull this up and be like, why are you saying that to them? How could you say that to them? I'm like, do you want to see the result six months later when they're financially successful, have a better social life, an incredible significant other, they're completely happy? Like, do you want to look at that? Or do you just want to look at me actually trying to give somebody a bit of tough love? And things that would have been like what I'm doing would have been a joke by 50 year, you know, standards 50 years ago. But that's where we've gotten to. So the challenge that I see is an individualism is that we all compete against each other, right? We're not trying to have communism. We're trying to have competition.

So me and you are not in competition, but let's just say that we were. And then I said, hey, because I'm worried that you might not step up, Luke, I'm going to teach you how to compete with me better. That's the inherent flaw in the individualistic system. So in my mind, if people don't want to lose freedom, what I think, and this is just me tabling, it doesn't mean I'm right, just an opinion I have. I think what's going to have to happen is that if people don't want to live in communism, they're going to, you know, the different business owners and people that are accountable are going to say, you know what,

we tried giving all our tax money, or not all, that's an exaggeration, but you know, a lot feels that way. But you know, we gave our tax money for public education. It wasn't enough. People are still not managing their health. They're not managing their money. They're not managing critical thinking. They're in a psychologically neurotic headspace. They're dealing with a lot of neurosis. It's not working. Maybe what has to happen is every business owner, and again, I wouldn't force it or anything, but maybe step up and give another couple percent of their money and say, we're going to make an organization that teaches people for free how not to be susceptible to something like this.

Because as long as people are walking around suffering and scared and broke, there will continue. And you've seen the Yuri Bezmenov content, right? It's like they will be an easy mark for people who want to control them. And then what you get into is this dom-sub relationship between the elites and the masses where the elites come in and say, hey, you know, I'll be like Big Bubba in the jail and you just let me handle everything.

And they're like, yes, just make us safe. Just put us in the metaverse. Put us on universal basic income. Tell us to stay at home. Give us unemployment. They want to be in prison. That's the joke. There's a place that will lock you down for your own safety.

There's a place that will provide you with three square meals a day. And you'll get your universal health care. There will be no guns. You will have your boss. It's called prison. It's not a joke I made up. Now that they're talking about lockdowns,

now that they're saying we want universal health care, we want guaranteed income for the basic necessities, a place to live, guaranteed housing, no guns, and to lock you down for your safety, I'm like, yo, you guys are just literally wanting to go to jail, aren't you? I just heard from a friend today that lives in New York, and I said, I really want another lockdown to happen. What? I really want it to happen.

I'm ready for it. I think it'd be good for me. That's crazy. Let's just put anybody... But they weren't kidding. Did you ask them why? What was their justification for this? I know where their headspace is. Where do you think they're coming from?

So we can diagnose this carefully. Well, I think it's a place of fear and I also think it's a place of fear and safety. They're afraid of what might happen to them and they also... I don't know. I mean, I don't want to disparage this person, but I think that they probably, well, I think they're a little bit lazy and I think that they would be more comfortable at home. And, and I think that they would feel like they've been given the right to stay home,

you know, and they can just use that as an excuse. It's just like, oh, I don't have to go anywhere. And this is great. I love where I am, you know you know so this is where if you were to bring that person on here and talk to them and have a conversation and again seek first to understand then to be understood and creating conversations where people come together because the thing is is while we're sitting here do it um because you've struggled i've heard that you've struggled to get people from a different point of view to come here i i have privately messaged people and then they ignore it. So then I publicly and politely will respond to one of their tweets

and then all of their fans go, do it. Oh man, it's going to be so great. You're going to wipe the floor with them. And then these progressives go, I'm totally doing it. I'm there. Name the time and date.

And I say, I'll have our booking producer cover you first class. We'll fly you out. We'll get everything taken care of. It'll be on this date or this date. Pick your date. And they'll go, done.

We're there. Then they DM me being like, LOL, idiot. I'm not coming on your show. Wow. And then they'll go to all their fans and be like, dude wouldn't have me on his show. Wow. Yeah, it is a grift. Wow.

We will, like, it's manipulation. You know, it's a shantoo that is perceived as a debate. Like, wouldn't it be powerful to get together and to really try to understand each other? Hash things out. Okay, so the most powerful idea in self-help, in my view, is this idea of the question is called what else? So, for example, you could be watching the Kardashian or you could be making a million dollars. You know, you could be sitting there having like pining over someone from five years ago or you go out to a bar or club and get good socially and meet 50 new people, right? It's just what else, what else, what else, what else?

And so to me, the idea of even a lot of things in pop culture, even in things with people arguing, it's almost, to me personally, just the way I take it, it's similar to a drug addiction. What do drugs do functionally? They get it to where you're not doing all the awesome things that would make your life better. So the problem is if in our country we're sitting here and we've got around, you know, 300-ish million people, right? And then you've got China, where I think it was President

Xi, he said to Joe Biden, we're going to own you in 15 years. And they're not sitting there having, you know, as much tribal argument, although I'm sure there's some. But if we're sitting here arguing with each other, and we care about freedom as a way of life, what's going to happen if we just said you're arguing and arguing with each other other we've got to get back on the same page and say rather than wasting our time on this how do we all win together sure sure sure let me let me ask a question um how do we get on the same page with china that out of my paper well i know i truly don't know there's no difference look i understand I understand the Maxwell case, the Epstein case might unify American populists. But when you have people who we've invited on the show, who have been on the show, and I don't want to rehash, call people's names.

But the people who watch the show know what I'm talking about. And I say, I agree with you. I think these things are also problems. And instead of saying, I'm glad we agree. Let's work to solve it. They say, you're an idiot. You're a liar. And they laugh in my face.

And then they smack the microphone. Wow. Yeah. So I don't know how you actually solve a problem when you have an eclectic group of people from moderate to conservative who are all like, we're going to work together. And then you get these left personalities who are like, you're in the cult or you're getting out of my face. So my theory behind why people that are in collectivism tend to do this is that it's the idea that if we all dim our light a little bit, then everybody can kind of win, but at a lower level. Well, then if anybody starts doing better socially or financially or whatever, it's ruining the pie. So that system can only work if everyone dims their light together. So imagine being on a rowboat, okay, and we're stuck out at sea.

We've got to make it to the shore. And there's eight of us right and there's just enough food that if we each take the exact same amount and if we each row really hard we'll eventually make it back to shore and we can live well if somebody then says hey i'm just gonna start pigging out on the food and not row the other seven of us might say we got to purge you you're out of here bro it's not that we want to do this but we got to do it so we can survive now that's for survival but in a more in a communist system that's just kind of like the way that i interpret it perhaps i'm wrong kind of like the way that i interpret it perhaps i'm wrong on this but the way that i interpret it is that people are saying no you can't rise too

high because everybody needs to be at this level then we have the elites up there and it's funny because in communism we tend to think of that as um it's not good for uh business owners right but what they don't realize no it's not good for middle class and it's not good for kind of upper class but the elites do amazing in communism is my understanding of it and then the people at the lowest level maybe can work perhaps a bit less although ironically those same millennials that watch tiktok that want communism will be put in a sewing factory for 18 hours a day but they think they're gonna get to watch tiktok um maybe some future version but you just get it's it's one of those things where it seems like purging just seems to be a common theme in a lot of communism or people in that kind of mindset.

Because for the whole like, yes, yes, that kind of thing to work, you need everybody to be on the same page. So there's this purging. So the problem is the dopamine structure in the brain at that point is getting a negative reward. Like do you ever just watch somebody like maybe Brian Stelzer and you just feel physically ill? I don't know if you've ever had that issue. And I'll sit there watching him and I'm like, I'm really trying. Like I, like I, like I'm like, I'm trying, I'm listening. I'm trying, I'm giving you the benefit. I'm just like, I'm really listening. Well, I think that somebody like Brian Stelzer probably looks at

somebody like a Tucker Carlson or Alex Jones and he feels that way. And he doesn't know why he's just like, why do I feel so angry? I think with Jones, he's so unstifled and unapologetic. My theory is they're not even listening to what he's saying. It just makes them angry that he's not filtering.

Just the mere act that he's not walking on eggshells and expressing himself without a filter is just enraging because they have the filter and they're like,

he doesn't have the filter. He needs the filter. It's like a mask. Yeah, exactly. It's like a mask policy. That's right. He doesn't have a mask. I have to wear a mask's like a mask. Yeah, exactly. It's like a mask policy. That's right. He doesn't have a mask. I have to wear a mask.

Why doesn't he have to wear a mask? Put your mask back on. How about we go to Super Chats? If you haven't already, smash that like button. Subscribe to this channel. Share the show with your friends. And become a member at TimCast if you want to support our journalists who do fierce and independent work. Like our good friend Chris Carr, who's been sitting here the whole time, executive editor.

You guys as members are helping make all of this possible. Now, I need to address a bit of the, oh, man, the controversy. Oh, my. We have the super chat from Weefy117. As meme-worthy as your drunk guest was last night, she seems pretty based. I hope things all right between y'all. She's great.

I thought we had a blast. She's awesome. She's cool. Yeah, she was a great guest and she was very authentic. But there were a lot of super chats that were concerned about the perhaps the amount of alcohol she had imbibed and I think Amanda's great. I thought she was

I thought it was a fun show. I get it. There were people in the chat saying the conversations weren't happening. There's a mix between some people saying it was our best show. I get it. There were people in the chat saying the conversations weren't happening. There's a mix between some people saying it was our best show ever, the most entertaining, and others saying they couldn't even listen. So, look, I don't want anybody to feel bad about anything. I think Amanda's fantastic. We'd love to have her back.

It's been a great time. And people saying it was meme-worthy. But she's super cool. We're all friends. She left. Everything was great. I don't know. I didn't, you know, whatever.

Well, there were a few people that suggested that I overpoured her drinks because I'm the bartender on the premises and I've been in the blog. He wasn't here. Exactly. I just want to set the record straight. I was not here that night. I did not pour anything for Amanda, but she is awesome and I admire her greatly. Yeah. We post clips on Instagram too. And I was just like, every comment on every platform from the show was all just like, yo.

And I was like, I don't want to be mean. We had a bunch of super chats and a lot of them were like perturbed, to say it mildly. And I'm just like, you know, I don't want to be mean to people. It's like it was not mean spirited, you know. Yeah, we're not trying to control the conversation here. We give people free will to express themselves however they want, and, you know, it's whatever. It was entertaining, I thought.

All right, that being said, let's read some more. We got, what is this, Monkey Boy King. He says, Ghislaine Maxwell has a job at CNN now. Yes, that was a Babylon Bee article. That was absolutely hilarious. And, you know, with the way CNN's been hiring lately, there's room to believe that. That article was so good that when I did my normal news bit, like I did a segment on my TimCast News channel, and I was like, a second producer has been arrested. I actually had to include a satirical article because the joke about Maxwell working at CN was just a standing ovation.

That one, you guys, you absolutely nailed it. Alright, Kevin Brady says, I went to go get monoclonals today in Washington State. They are no longer giving them out at all. Removed before Christmas. Doctor didn't understand. Why upset? Yeah, I have a number

of friends who are sick who are trying to get them that are saying that they just can't. Especially, I have a number of friends who are sick, who are trying to get them that are saying that they just can't, especially I have a friend in New York. I have another friend in New Jersey and they're having doctors tell them, yeah, this is all because of the governor's fault, the president's fault. And it's absolutely crazy what's happening here to have something that has helped us personally be denied to people or not there. It's just almost every step of the way here we have to be questioning what the government is doing here because their results of their

actions are horrible it gives a lot of credence to some of the most cynical opinions about what's happening like these really really cynical opinions when you see things like that happening you're like is that true and it's sad that it's got to that yeah yeah well you saw the attorney general in florida just came out and said that they're actively it's sad that it's got to that point. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you saw the attorney general in Florida just came out and said that they're actively because he said that he's effectively treated 100,000 people in Florida with monoclonal antibodies. And he said the Biden administration is actively preventing us from giving it to people that need it.

Absolutely. That's the same. I've heard from some doctors that they're just across the board. They're being pulled out. And the claim, I was actually told this by doctors that it doesn't work. And I was like, but I got it. And it worked it worked and it's eua author i don't understand what it what what trump got it okay i guess i don't know man mind-boggling thank you for that super chat by the way great point and an important issue to talk about nick beardian says oh and i followed you for over a decade

your work has been a true inspiration to me, my friends, and many people. I just want to say thank you for everything you've done, my friend. You got a lead, mother effer. Nice. There you go. You've been doing this for a while. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Thank you. That means a lot. That's why I do it. Devisop says, there's widespread polarization, misinformation, and politicization in my country, Lithuania. I feel obligated to do something about it. X YouTube tips.

I don't know, man. You know, you got to read a lot. If you do, tell your friends. Maybe make some YouTube videos. I'd probably say get started on Rumble or Mines at this point and YouTube. Do it all at the same time. Give value. Never give up on yourself.

Keep trying new things. Experiment. But understand when you're playing on big tech, you're playing by their rules. So understand you have a lot against you. The odds are against you, but that doesn't mean you can't succeed. That means when you do succeed, it's only going to be more valuable to you when you do. Yeah, and the big tip for several YouTubers being here is the more that you do public speaking, the better you get at it. Your first videos, you've got to be okay that it's a bit ridiculous and that you can laugh at later.

Like if you ever looked at your oldest videos on your channel or you ever look at your oldest. I had a Brooklynese accent running away from police officers. That was my first video. Yeah. The more that you do it, the better you get. So where those old embarrassing videos with pride, you're going to be so proud of them someday. When you keep doing it, you'll get better and better, just like any sport or playing an instrument. I'd say cultivate personal relationships with people in your community. Start with your neighbors, people that live next door, people that live next to those people.

Bring food, offer food, offer help, just basic stuff. That's a good point, Chris. Don't rely on the internet to spread your message. The real world also has an impact, especially now. Alright, Adrian Davis says, Tim, this is a celebratory donation. I've recently extracted myself from Denver

and am now back across state in my home county. 8,800 people in my town and I'm so happy. Enter applause here. Congrats. Yeah, man. Bravo for getting away from all that stuff and finding a good place. Just Cuz says, just a reminder that Americans are still stuck in Afghanistan and according to reports reports the state department is trying to prevent them from leaving

never underestimate joe biden's ability to screw things up um or is it intentional at this point i think it's fair to argue that a lot of the stuff the government is doing that is hurting people and screwing people over is intentional i mean how else can you describe it especially with how i just i just want to point out in my research for one of my segments i was doing the other day about the difference between men and women in politics women began to disapprove of the democratic party right around the fall of kabul and i was just like i don't it is that is that a strong issue for women in the united states like withholding kabul and a proper withdrawal and not a, I guess so. Weakness.

Weakness. Joe Biden looked pathetic and they were probably like, this is terrible. Like a terror attack that killed people. There's a lot of very pessimistic and cynical views

of why this might have happened, including intentional. And the fact that that even has to be seriously considered when it's this pathetic is pretty sad. That's a sad day when you have to actually take some of those opinions seriously. And I think we probably do.

Yeah, man. All right. Zombie says, Tim, Colorado community and firefighters need a shout out today. Multiple fires destroying communities. Yeah. Lydia, you're from Colorado. I am from Colorado. And this usually doesn't happen in the winter.

I was wondering about that before the show. Global warming? No, probably not global warming. This may just be a warm winter, but yeah, it sounds like it's really dry over there. It's just a warm winter. No, it's the apocalypse. Oh, you're right.

Okay, I'm sorry. Gratitudeberg, you know, look, it's the apocalypse. At least that's what I was told. Yeah, that's what I was told too. All right. Arsene Lupin says, Whoa tyler dirted himself on tim pool best christmas present ever see you at the winter summit what is the winter summit i've been running a lot of events for uh 20 years now so i spent most of my life i spent as a public speaker

in front of crowds um so i've often run 50 events a year just doing public speaking and uh it's something i think is really beautiful. I was actually one of the first people to be out doing seminars again as soon as I had the chance. Like my whole team, they're like, you're crazy. Nobody's going to come. And we actually put one in Miami, and we broadcast it live. We brought all this live gear down. We broadcast it live because I wanted to be the first person to be doing seminars again.

And Tyler Durden was just my old nickname. It was a nickname back in the day. All right. Let's see. what's up says tim when it comes to batikaf care that's a biden slur for people who aren't familiar uh slurring his speech i mean i recommend you watch the white house youtube videos of biden addressing covid where they have what he's supposed to say but it's not what he's actually saying hilariously sad they translate for this man when he muttered and then the media just writes whatever or i bet they have the transcript that would actually be well you know what maybe if we want to know what trunan on a shop at a pressure really was we only got it we start look at the transcript because whatever it is they wrote for the prompter it's got to

exist somewhere right i'm sure well unfortunately i don't know. I don't know exactly if they're going to put anything like that out. No way. All right. John Bell says, was Luke speaking literally about the Epstein crew killing children when he said sacrificing them? Well, you know, the term sacrifice could be interpreted in many different ways. But there's a reason why Epstein was flying a 727, the CIA airplane that allows people to throw people out of it mid-flight. There's a lot of accusations that a lot of children did go missing. As far as, like, smoking gun evidence, there's not a lot of that, but there are a lot of, you know, circumstances.

So when we're talking about sacrificing, when you commit those horrible actions against children, you're sacrificing their innocence, you're sacrificing their childhood. But I also do believe that there was a lot of children involved here, a lot more than the media states. There's estimates of up to thousands. And this is even according to the people that worked at the airport next to Little St. James with their documentation of how many children were shipped in there. The numbers here are egregious. Epstein was even publicly bragging that Jean-Luc Bernet was able to give them 1,000 children. The numbers here are staggering, 30 years of abuse, so who knows? And I think it goes far beyond more disturbing than we actually even know about now,

and I would say absolutely. All right. Kevin E. says, Brandon Brown will be driving the number 68 Let's Go Brandon Camaro for the NASCAR 2022 season. Hey, what if a super PAC just sponsored the guy with the Let's Go Brandon car? That would be great. He's struggling to get sponsored or whatever. Yeah. I thought he got sponsored by the FJB coin.

Yeah, that's what I heard. Did he? Yeah, I saw that. That's a great mark. Is that true? FJB is valued at $300 million right now. Wow. I saw that.

I mean, fact check that. I saw that headline. I don't know where it came from, but that's what I saw. That's amazing if that's true. Yeah, I did see something about that. That's amazing if that's true. Yeah, that'd be awesome. That's better than my bazonka coin.

Yeah, I like that one. I like that one better. Well, all right. Tony D says, read the Gulag Archipelago. This is what the average person can do. Stop doing things you know are wrong and stop saying things you know aren't true.

Solzhenitsyn sped the collapse of the USSR. Really? Yeah. Wow. Peterson saying too. All right. Muddy says, so many people in the world think that all the Jeffrey Epstein stuff is a wacky conspiracy theory.

That is the goal here, to get the info out there and show those idiots that it's very real. But you've got to approach it very matter-of-factly. And I love doing things like this in passing, just asserting things as true that are true, but you don't try to convince someone of. So instead of saying, did you know that Epstein did this and Maxwell did this? And then they're like, is that true? You say something like – you're having a political conversation. I'll be like, look, well – I mean like with the Epstein stuff, which was proven true.

When you have somebody at that level of power, you just say it in passing and let it just be part of the conversation, a normal part of the conversation. Don't even let it be something that they're going to argue with you about. You know, just like at the Bohemian Grove when they do mock child sacrifices to Moloch. You know, this is a time of the year that a lot of people appreciate and usually use for summer excursions and nature walks. I would do it like that. I would do it. I often like to challenge things when people say stuff that's outrageous is that but i would like to i would like to throw back to when luke mentioned bill

gates having birth control microchips and i was like get out of here and then i google it and bloomberg.com it's like bill gates funding uh contraceptive microchips birth control and i was like oh look you didn't make that one yeah that up yeah look up mullick look up my gosh all right justin chavez says great idea for a change in the senate and houses pay a proposal to set their salaries to the u.s median household income when the median income increases so do their salaries this would force them to implement policies that help the middle class or to help policies that will give them kickbacks after they leave office.

This is the problem. It's very difficult to solve. Andrew Yang was like, let's give every one of these politicians a million dollars. That way they won't be influenced by the lobbyists. And it's like, that won't matter either, man. There's no upper limit for these people. It's like you get a million dollar salary and they go, awesome. Well, I'll be here for two years and then get a million dollar salary after I leave

because a lobbyist made a promise to me i don't i don't see there being um i don't see there being a good solution man to be completely honest paul anthony says love your show tim and friends can we all please stop watching and reacting to leftist news we are all just feeding into the bs that they spread happy new year's everyone wishing you all the best well let me say i going to say a couple things. First, you are correct. The problem, though, is if we ignore the crazy things that crazy people do, they'll keep doing it and it'll keep happening, right? It'll keep getting worse. The other thing is the right, moderates, post-liberal, whatever faction, needs to get a hold of the news cycle. There was this Vox article.

It was hilarious where they were like, Fox News is controlling the narrative because the left only ever responds. And I'm like, well, that's ridiculous. The news cycle is almost exclusively set by the mainstream establishment left. And don't take my word for it. Axios put out a story

about all of the major news cycle stories of the year. They do it every year. And it is not set by conservatives. It's debated by conservatives, but too often, conservatives, moderates, libertarians are responding to the establishment left instead of setting the tone. Imagine if every single person on the right was like, we're going to talk about this today.

The left would be either excluded from the conversation or forced to engage. And a good example of how this could manifest is if at the peak of his presidency, Trump joined Gab or Mines and started posting there, it would have forced the mainstream media to join these platforms and it would have taken power away.

But Trump, oh, his advisor said, don't do it. So that was an opportunity that was lost. Yes, the idea of punching versus counter counterpunching or being proactive versus reactive. All right. Mike Sullivan says, great after show last night. It was fun, wasn't it? It was very fun. Trump has been pro-vax but anti-mandate.

I'm fine with that. Absolutely. It's like, I don't care what your opinions are. Just leave me alone. And that's why I was saying about Ron Paul, why I think Ron Paul's fantastic. Because he can come out and say whatever he wants, but he always caps it Ron Paul, why I think Ron Paul's fantastic. Because he can come out and say whatever he wants, but he always caps it off with, and I'm going to leave you alone to do your thing. And I'm like, that's pretty good.

Correct. You know, like, keep me out of it. You can have all, like, if most of his political ideology results in letting people live their lives, then, well, then we're good, right? I agree with that completely. But the fact is, politically, I think that he's leaking supporters. Well, not only that, he's talking about non-science issues, saying that only the people in the hospital are dying are the ones that haven't been vaccinated. That's a lie. That's not true. Not in Germany. Did you see that study recently?

Yeah. 96% of how many people? This is according to the Robert Koch Institute. Their report, we could pull up the report and look at it but again a lot of things are being debated here we don't know exactly what's going on but this is just some of the preliminary information we got there was a article that said the majority of people with omicron in new york were fully vaccinated and that's true but it was 43 people so i just yeah that was the early numbers preliminary numbers but what are the new

numbers i i think they stopped counting them i'm trying i'm not i'm not saying it to tell anybody they're right or wrong i'm saying make sure you understand the full context of what the report says yeah that's because that small sample size does matter right exactly exactly and you want to you want to know as much as possible because what'll happen is you'll come out and say this and you'll be in a debate with a family member and then they'll go 43 people that was a pathetic argument and it's going to be you know you got it you got to know you can say it's a really small sample size but let's be real the story exists and then they can't counter it they're like well okay you addressed it yeah jimmy freckle says the people that love trump and the

people that hate trump are almost exactly the same person what does that mean though fervent supporters that are just by uh on further spectrums away from each other, and they're kind of radicalized instead of seeing him as good and bad. Again, Donald Trump, it's a person I criticized because he was in a position of power. But again, I didn't go crazy like all the other people that were acting like total lunatics going after him for eating two scoops of ice cream. It was ridiculous what was happening out there. Everyone in power deserves to be criticized, not just worshipped or adorned or just hysterically cried after. All right.

Bobcat says, I just want to know why nobody is talking about the serial killer loose on Long Island. Well, we are. We did a Tales from the Inverted World. Yeah, three-part story. Three-part story tracking that. Sure did.

Is there a new one? No, no, it's the same one. Same one, okay. It's been like three decades, right? We didn't miss some Sure did. Is there a new one? No, no. It's the same one. Same one. Okay. It's been like three decades, right? We didn't miss some breaking news. There's a serial killer in Long Island over the past, was it three decades?

Yeah. Yeah. Three decades. Three decades. Yeah. And it's like, you'd think that would be headline news. You'd think. You know what's really funny?

I watched Zodiac, and I'm watching this, and the movie's so thrilling. And then I looked up the actual story of Zodiac, and I was like, this is boring. The Zodiac killer may have been responsible for, like, several dozen murders, but there's only, I think, like, five confirmed ones, and it was over the course of, like, one year. And then they made a movie about it, it became a big deal, and I'm like, it is, it's bad, for sure. But there's an actual serial killer on Long Island over three decades. They didn't make a movie about that they don't care nope i guess because zodiac was good at getting press and the

media played into it never heard of those guys on long island yeah that's what's weird shane did some really uh awesome investigative reporting and he uncovered the fact that it's perhaps not just a serial killer it could be serial killers that work together on this. Wow. Interesting. Awesome work. Alright, let's see. The Life of D says the wife lost her job today because of Crooked County's vaccine mandate. She has a medical exemption and they don't care. Can I get a shout out to her?

She's bummed and hurt. We're officially moving out of Illinois to a farm in North Carolina. Yes, congrats. I hear you, man. Glad you're moving. What's her name so we can shout her out? It doesn't say. Shout out to your wife. Shout out. Shout out for standing on principles and standing for what's right and not bowing down and doing

something that was going to hurt you or be bad for you. And you're not alone. We've reported on people that have actually gone through that same experience, and you're not alone. That's rough, man. Yeah. All right. All right.

Base says, I'm chiming in just to say, Luke rules, and I miss Ian. Aw. Ian's on vacation, everybody. He'll be back on Monday. Yeah, soon. Oh, yeah. Soon, soon. Kevin Pilgrim says,

all I can think about is how fire that pink flannel is. Definitely have to give it away. Yes! Yes! Totally. Yes. All right.

Babyleg says, CDC says to shorten isolation period to five days wear one and a half masks get two to two to three or four boosters don't step on a crack or your mom will get covid and stare no they're not advising you to do that but it's funny don't stare at the sun don't step on a crack yeah yeah when um when the cdc revised their isolation to five days main like establishment left activists and like the media were all of a sudden mocking the CDC. And I'm like, how do you do that?

How do you go from saying we support the science? And then when the CDC is like, we've changed our mind. You're lying. It's worse than this. I trust the CDC. I trust the science. Oh, yeah. How about that?

Yep. So much for trusting the science, man. Man. I think it's crazy. Selrin says, Trump being kicked off Twitter has disconnected him from his base. He doesn't know stuff

because he only reads mainstream media unless it's on Fox. He hasn't seen it. This has created a rift between him and his base. I don't know if that's true. Is it? Do you think Trump was really active

on reading Twitter? No. Well, that was kind of like Candace Owen's defense for him when she ran cover after the interview. She was just like... Well, she has very strong beliefs about this issue and she didn't back him up during the interview.

Not at all. And she's kind of making excuses for Trump's words and saying, oh, he's just old. He's old. And he only watches the corporate media. And if that's the case, you're not making a good argument for him to be president of the United States.

Yeah. Yeah. All right. Waffle Sensei says, I've always agreed, Luke. The ending to Game of Thrones was good. The plot was good, but they crammed three seasons worth of content

into one and called it an ending. You're absolutely right. There's like, I think, a thousand comments being like, we have to dethrone Luke. Luke's over. Cancel Luke for that comment. Yes. I agree.

They did rush it. But I was very satisfied that I didn't get a Disney World cookie-cutter ending like all the other movies that end the same way like they usually do. I didn't want to do something that was expected. I wanted something out of the ordinary, something weird, something different, and I appreciated their efforts towards saying, you know what, we're not going to do what everyone else does.

We might piss a bunch of people off, but we're going to change things up a little bit here, and we're going to make you think about some other issues and explore your imagination here and i like that and i appreciate it so you have in this show the the characters are in you know the north or whatever with the white walkers and they're surrounded they're like oh no and then they what do they send a raven or something i don't know a message and and the message gets all the way to the south of the continent and And then the Khaleesi sees it and then flies all the way to the north of the continent within, what, a few hours? Something like that. She has dragons.

There's no reality here, Tim. There's dragons. There's nothing real here. We're living in Magic World and Fairytale Land. Sure. It was interesting. And I thought what that series did, especially in the beginning, was awesome. You know what always baffles me about movies?

You could add a line of dialogue to solve a lot of these things where she could be like, there's no way we'll make it to the north in time. I just so happen to have one teleportation scroll available. Perfect. And then it just blinks, and they're there, and you're like, okay, I guess. Deus ex machina. All right. Let's see.

Brian Cox says, saw a TikTok where homeschooled kid says montana looks like biden sniffing idaho oh did you guys see that image i have seen that yeah it's no it's very convincing yeah deeply convincing scary you cannot see it that's great okay let's see we get some uh super chats here i can't read this name. That's why it's W question mark, whatever. Oh, and your video about 10 years ago about Batman and crawling up from your lowest point probably saved my life from the heartbreak I was experiencing.

Wanted to know the work you do really help someone. Thank you. That's cool, man. That's great. This is big news. That's Danzatastic says the charges for the truck driver sentenced to 110 years in prison has been reduced to 10 years.

Wow. Wow. Well, there you go, man. This is cool. Angel Valentine says Owen saved my life. His teachings are mind blowing. One of the OGs of early YouTube. Wow.

Thank you. Very cool. There you go. Right on. Dragon Lady says Lib Friend, quote, Trump should tell his supporters to get vaxxed. They'll do anything he says. Me. Post articles of Trump pushing the vax.

Him. Oh, I missed that. They must missed that they must have they must have two or maybe they're not blindly following cultists like you believe they are that's exactly what i've been saying trump did a rally and he was like you know we did the vaccines and you gotta get them and then everyone's like boo and then they're like trump supporters are in a cult and i'm like they're booing him they're they're they're in a rally in a stadium booing him that they came to see they came i think that was a fair point though that group think is not exclusive to the left it's also in the right it's also anywhere it's in any business it's anywhere the idea that we can save mental energy by letting other people do our thinking for us which can be a good thing in many ways, but also has to be extracted if we don't want to have chaos. Mr. Hunt, first name Mike.

Oh. I'm going to tell you a quick story. So when we were at the casino a few weeks ago, I was playing a slot machine and they were like, you know, Deborah Jones, please meet your family in the eatery or whatever. And we hear it over the speaker and I didn't care. And then within five minutes we hear hear, Mike, last name. They said the full name. Your friends are waiting for you in the eatery.

And I started busting out laughing. I'm like, somebody actually pulled it off. And some lady walks past me and Allison, and she's like, did they just say that? And I was like, they did. And she goes, it was an older lady. She goes, bravo to whoever pulled that off. And I'm like, yes. All right, he says, Joe Rogan is not a beacon of free speech in journalism.

He has a secret contract with Spotify. He has removed videos of undesirables, Gavin McInnes, Milo, and Stephen Greer. Sure, he has Alex Jones. That's just to keep his right-wing audience. It's been a while since we talked about this, but there were several episodes of the Rogan podcast that were not transferred over from YouTube to Spotify. I think Carl Benjamin was one of them. Yeah.

I don't know why that was. Yes. And I do not believe that Joe was honest about what happened. But I can't remember to be completely honest. I think he said something like there was a transcoding error or didn't save. Now, that actually happens. It's happened to us. There have been several instances where,

so when we do the show, we're streaming and recording using what's called open broadcasting, OBS. There have been certain issues we've had where the recording crashed, and then I'm like, okay, well, we can just get it off YouTube, right? And then when you go to YouTube to click download, it's grayed out and you can't. And then we try, I think we've actually at one point did a hard screen record of our own show from YouTube

to try and get a version of it. Yeah, we had to try. So we basically turned on screen grab and then just walked out of the room for the two hours

of the show playing on YouTube so we could record it so we could then make clips from it. Sometimes that does happen. I gotta say though, of all of those people,

Of all the episodes. Yeah. It's kind of weird, right? All the controversial ones and still they haven't figured out this error? I still think Joe is extremely important. Look at the stuff he's been saying recently, the people he's having on. He is pushing, and he is speaking out, and I respect it 100%. So I'm not going to pretend that Veritas is invincible or Joe Rogan's invincible or that we are invincible.

There's always something that people have to concede upon to try and move forward. Sometimes you have to retreat in battle to try and win the war. That being said, maybe it's not always as perfect. I think most of us believe that he's doing his best, and we don't know what he deals with day to day. I believe he's doing his best. And not only his best, he's doing incredible work highlighting doctors that are being censored, giving them a voice and having an actual scientific debate.

We couldn't ask for anything more. He's putting everything on the line. He's putting skin in the game. And we have to give it up to him. He's changing the narrative and I think he destroyed a lot of the bull crap that we had to face. So props to him. He's doing absolutely incredible work and deserves our support.

All right. Digaboom says, great after show last night. Your future wife is lucky, Luke. When's the wedding? Tim, stare at Luke, please. Yes, I'm staring at Luke. Don't stare at me. The other day, for those that didn't see it in the

members only segment i i luke mentioned how sometimes there will be like a pause and then he looks at me and i'm just looking at him so it looks like i better talk but i was saying well it's like if i'm talking too much and it happens all the time the guest finishes i'll like look to luke to see if he wants to add and then luke's like too wrapped up in the chat or something and then he's like oh i'm being called upon. But I always deliver, though. I always deliver. I'm always like, I'm on it. I always got something to say.

I have to stop myself a lot of times. I'm really happy with the intro to yesterday's episode where I was like, that's it. It's the Maxwell thing. Take it away, Luke. And then Luke just was like, Luke had everything written down perfectly, ready to go, and he's like, yes, Epstein. Good moment to chat. I was like, this is the moment we've all been waiting for.

Tim, how much of your audience is fully aware of what extreme things Luke has done? Does your audience fully get it? Have they seen the Hong Kong videos, the Epstein video? Hardcore. Do people realize who you're talking to and what you've done? Oh, no, no. I love when we have a guest who doesn't know Luke, and I'll be like, Luke's been to Epstein. I am.

And they're like, wait a minute. Hi, Pervert. What are you doing over there? have like a guest who doesn't know luke and i'll be like luke's been to epstein but the first time luke was like not like that i got on a boat after he was arrested and was doing journalism oh how much your audience truly understands your background and his background the extreme things you guys have done i don't know i mean look to be honest, if we talked a lot about the work Luke has done, YouTube might shut it down. Got it. I mean... I had a lot of very nice conversations

with people like Henry Kissinger, Lord Jacob Rothschild, the Rockefellers. There's a really funny moment where... I mean, he's put his life in danger, and I'm pretty sure you have too. It was me, it was Cassandra McDonald now, but formerly Fairbanks and luke and we were at a protest in new york and we're filming and then afterwards we're leaving

it's the three of us and uh we all have like decent followings and then all of a sudden luke sees was it donald rumsfeld yep and then just like standing standing there on the street and then it was like i'm gonna ask him questions and so there's this video now of like me and cassandra standing next to rumsfeld as luke asks him questions awkwardly and there's this video now of me and Cassandra standing next to Rumsfeld as Luke asks him questions. Awkwardly. And there's people who are like, it's a conspiracy. There's no way all three of them were there at the same time. And Rumsfeld's there, and he's answering Luke's questions. Oh, yeah, yeah.

I set that one up perfectly. I'm like, Rumsfeld. He's like, oh, hey. I was like, can you get a photo? And then I took a microphone. I was like, what about those missing trillions at the Pentagon right before that September event in 2000 and, you know, which date I'm talking about here. What did he say? What did he say?

I don't know. He was like, wait, what? Oh, there's nothing about it. You don't have to worry. I'm like, there's so much. There's trillions of dollars missing. You should answer this. There's another moment where, Luke, you confronted Ben Bernanke.

Oh, yeah. But you were inside a secure event with what's his name Paul Volker walked me in there because he was lost and I was helping him get around as I'm helping Paul Volker get around I'm having a conversation about him going to Bilderberg

right and there's these security guards and they have a VIP section where all the speakers are going and as I'm talking to him about attending Bilderberg I just walk right with him talking to him security didn't even stop us and there's ben bernacki i'm like sorry paul i'm gonna have to stop you here for a second i'll be right back went up to freaking ben bernacki and i was like how does it feel pulling off the largest transfer of wealth robbing the people of this world for trillions of dollars with your secret banker bailouts he literally literally grabbed the microphone, tried to rip it away from me so he could steal it

so no one would hear the questions. And I was like, oh, you don't like that question? What'd you do at Bilderberg then? Why don't you answer that question? But here's the best thing. So on Reddit, they were like, there's no way Luke's legit. He's controlled opposition. He's fake.

How did he get in this event? So we came up with a skit idea. My brother made Photoshopped images of luke at parties with ben bernacki we have it downstairs on the wall yeah and there's a picture of luke and ben skydiving together and so then like the skit is luke gets a phone call and it says you know ben bernacki he's like benny what's up yeah i can come down yeah we'll do like a fake thing where i pretend to get you and then luke pull out a wad of cash like can you get more reserve notes i'm running low.

People think crazy stuff. Alright, we'll just read this one more here. We got the Life of D. He says, LOL, the wife is Christina and she's in tears, thankful for your support. Have a great New Year's, TimCast team. Much deserved. Yes, good work. We're having a party tomorrow for the crew and everybody here. We've got

Wagyu beef. Everyone's going to get a little bit. It's very expensive. And we're going to party tomorrow for the crew and everybody here. We've got Wagyu beef. Everyone's going to get a little bit. It's very expensive. And we're going to have Trump champagne. We secured – we procured a bottle of Trump champagne. And it's apparently hard to get right now. Tremendous. We went to the liquor store.

It's probably up on the vlog or whatever because we're like we're going to get libations for the event. And we asked if they had Trump champagne. The guy's like it's very hard to get champagne in general right now. So we got some. And we're going to enjoy ourselves. So we won't be around tomorrow, but to everybody who watches the show, everybody who's a member, we really do appreciate your support. Smash that like button. You can subscribe to this channel, go to timcast.com, become a member to support our journalists. You can follow us, Timcast IRL, basically everywhere. We put up clips on Instagram and Facebook. You can follow me at Timcast. Owen, you want to shout out your

socials? Owen Cook Self Help. And that's basically I've been traveling the whole entire country recording videos all over the country outside. And then Owen Cook Free Tour. I do free events all over the country, big free seminars. Owen Cook Free Tour is where you can see those seminars. I actually post them. Right on. I want to thank the people in the comment section that said that I redeemed myself by bringing Owen. I know I usually bring a wide range of eclectic people.

You do, yes. I'm friends with – You hit the microphone. Did you hear it? I'm not that guy. Oh, no. No, no, no. We've got to end it.

We've got to end it. We've got to end it. And I'm very happy this worked out. So – Oh, Luke. So I have my own media organization. It's called We Are Change. I did a full video on the Maxwell escapades. You can watch it on YouTube. It's called We Are Change. I did a full video on the Maxwell escapades.

You can watch it on youtube.com forward slash We Are Change. I did a spicy video on lukeuncensored.com. That's where you could support me because you do. I'm here. It was fun. It was a great conversation. We should have more of these. It's incredible.

So thank you so much for all of you guys who participated in it and all of the amazing people who give us our time and intention. It really means a lot that we're able to spend time with so many amazing people, especially in the comment section, especially here. It's, it's just one of the funnest things.

So thank you guys for all being a part of it. Absolutely. Uh, Chris car 17 on Twitter, shout out to Mark and Pat. Very cool. Thank you guys all for tuning in. This is a great conversation.

I always love it when you get a little more cultural because I appreciate the philosophy and asking some of the underlying questions about what's actually going on. Anyway, I hope you guys all have a great New Year's Eve. I'm really looking forward to it. I'm going to go see some Christmas lights, I hope, and you guys can follow me on Twitter at Sarah Patchlands. Thanks so much for hanging out and being here all year, my

friends. The midterm cycle is starting to ramp up, so you need to understand that the censorship, the smears, the trolling, it is going to get intense. So you need to understand that the censorship, the smears, the trolling, it is going to get intense. Anybody who's challenging the establishment will be run across the coals.

They'll be going after you. They'll be going after us. They will try to shut down anybody who is telling you, you know, vote in the primaries, vote local. So we got to be ready

for the censorship. That's going to be big. They're going to start banning people. They're going to find reasons to do it. This is going to get spicy. We the censorship. That's going to be big. They're going to start banning people. They're going to find reasons to do it. This is going to get spicy. We don't know who's going to win yet.

History and polls say Republicans. But if dirty games are afoot, we have no idea. That being said, we will see you all in 2022. Thanks for hanging out. We'll see you then. Bye, guys.