Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #439 - DOJ Deployed "Kill Commandos" Jan 6th DISPROVING Insurrection Narrative w/Posobiec

Episode Date: January 5, 2022

Tim, Ian, Luke, and Lydia join friend and fellow podcaster Jack Posobiec to discuss emerging evidence that there were 'shoot-to-kill' orders on January 6th at the Capitol, Biden's abysmal ratings that are lower than Trump's, the half a million people who flooded alternative social media platform Gettr after Joe Rogan joined it, Ethan Klein's ridiculous anti-scientific criticism of the eminently physically healthy Joe Rogan's approach to Covid, the third Chinese spy who pled guilty to stealing American biomedical secrets to funnel to China, and the 'plague ship of wokeness' known as Glee. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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commandos deployed on January 6 with shoot to kill authority. Now we started about a minute or so late because the initial story I had read said that Trump had deployed them. And I think that was incorrect. So we wanted to change the headline and then actually have a discussion about what it really means. It was the DOJ. It was apparently, I think, Rosen who deployed these commandos to prevent a terror attack. I don't know if it actually came from Donald Trump. I want to make sure that was clear. But this is huge. If it was the executive branch that was trying to shut this thing down, I think it's still incorrect to claim that there was an insurrection narrative or the insurrection narrative is completely absurd to begin with. And this is just more evidence to the fact that the media is completely in the wrong

about what happened on January 6th. But there's a better story outside of all of this. That, I think, is the big news, the lead. There's also a really funny story. If an election was held today, Joe Biden would lose to Donald Trump. The nation supports Trump by an average of five points above Joe Biden in aggregate, not any single poll. And if the mainstream media is maintaining their narrative that Trump is currently involved in a conspiracy to overthrow American democracy and that there was an insurrection or a coup, that would mean that Americans,

knowing this, support it more than Joe Biden, which says a whole lot about what their narrative is. But we'll have to break down the news to make sure we get it absolutely correct. There's a bunch of other stories. The Daily Mail has joined Getter, which is huge because once Getter becomes a utility for news gathering, you're going to see way more people signing up. So that's a big deal. 500,000 people reportedly signed up for Getter after the Joe Rogan episode. And we've also got reports about lockdowns coming in Canada. And believe it or not, Bernie Sanders will face a primary challenge from the left. Joe Biden.

Joe Biden will? Speak, Jack. Bernie Sanders' campaign manager says that Joe Biden will face a primary challenger. And since it's Bernie Sanders campaign manager says that Joe Biden will face a primary challenger. And since it's Bernie Sanders manager saying this, I guess the implication would be that it would be Bernie. I totally screwed that one up. Thank you for correcting me on that one, Jack. So, okay then. Well, as all of you know,

Jack, what was it? Life fact checking. I got that one wrong. Jack, what's going on? What's going on? Welcome back. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year to everybody. It's been a minute. I've got my my bides wall t-shirt on which is which is tim's favorite word in mandarin but tim why don't you tell us what does bides well mean white left white left and this it's mandarin and the the the subtitle is uh china figured it out we didn't right and so this is actually sent to me by the myth informed guys for christmas and merry christmas guys uh you you bunch of filthy atheists and um that was really cool this

is the idea that that in in the west right we are sort of controlled by the grip of this like fearsome minority of the white left where they're just these angry little but you know very vocal and loud screaming leftists that are all typically white and have this undue influence in the west for some reason and china figured this out and made it a joke years ago you we saw this with pat noswalt he's a perfect example amazing like i've been friends with dave chappelle for 34 years but i'm gonna apologize for being friends with him i'm gonna apologize for being friends with the guy who created and starred in chapelle show right you know who's one of the probably the most prominent

comedian in the country right now i mean how could you could you think of anyone that's more prominent rogan chapelle the two of them i mean is rogan just a comedian no he's like because he's because he's more than i mean he's prominent but I think he's prominent for being other than just his comedy. We'll get into this. We got Luke here. Thank you so much for coming on here. I'm impressed. He's been working on that.

But anyway, today I am wearing a shirt representing joe biden in his natural essence and habitat that of course is a puppet with the saying who's really in charge that's a big question and of course that's left to a lot of interpretation but it gets a lot of people thinking and if you want to do that you can by just getting this shirt on the best political shirts.com and supporting me at the same time i'm excited for this conversation yeah check it's going to be fun it's going to be interesting. And we also have a new person joining us that came back that wasn't here this year at all.

First time all year. Since last year. First time on TV, guys. Hey, I'm back, guys. One of last season's What's up, dudes? You survived the Langoliers, man. It was wild. I fell asleep on the plane. I don't remember much after that. Did you see any walnuts that were possibly dudes? I had You survived Langoliers man It was wild I fell asleep on the plane I don't remember much after that Yeah

Did you see any walnuts That were possibly airborne? I almost screamed At you just now Possibly airborne Yeah Yeah Yeah

Airborne walnuts Ian survived Yeah Is Langoliers at the end of the movie Like yeah And then it like pauses in midair Where they're like jumping freeze frame I don't think so

Cheap movie No I never I never saw the end. What's really funny is I've only ever watched Langoliers once, but I was on an airplane and I never saw the ending because I fell asleep. Oh, there you go.

Dirty. It's a common problem. Dude, I promised Tim I was going to start wearing jeans on the show and no longer wear my pajamas. I'm going professional this year, but I've got to show you guys this. I came home yesterday. He's wearing pajamas. And I found these. Oh my gosh. Who would send me such crazy and amazing pajama pants? It was Luke Rutkowski.

Those are super rare. Those look new. You've got to wear pants, man. They're smooth. I was like, come on, dude. I was like, no, tonight. This is a professional environment. Tonight we're getting smooth.

We're getting smooth. You're very welcome. I love you guys. Thank you so much. I had an amazing time away from the TV for a little while, and I highly suggest doing the same for yourself, for your state of mind. Be good to yourself and your friends and your family.

Now is the time. Amen. Right on. We got Lydia. Yeah, I'm here as well. We were talking about polarity before the show tonight, which is always great. Source of freaking dad jokes.

And I did want to say that I remember when the Chinese went from making fun of the Bites Wow to weaponizing them. Totally weaponizing them. That's right. Very smart. All right, everybody. Before we get started, head over to TimCast.com and become a member. We're going to have a special members-only podcast that goes live around 11 or so p.m.

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you can also subscribe to this channel, smash the like button, share the show with your friends. Let's read this story here. This is from Newsweek. Came out the other day. Secret commandos with shoot to kill authority were at the Capitol. On Sunday, January 3rd, the heads of a dozen elite government special operations team met in Quantico, Virginia to go over potential threats, contingencies, and plans for the upcoming joint session of Congress. The meeting and the subsequent deployment of these shadowy commandos on January 6th

has never before been revealed. Right after the new year, Jeffrey Rosen, the acting attorney general on January 6th, approved implementation of longstanding contingency plans dealing with the most extreme possibilities, an attack on Donald Trump or Vice President Mike Pence, a terror attack involving a weapon of mass destruction, and a declaration of measures to implement continuity of government requiring protection and movement of presidential successors. Rosen made a unilateral decision to take the preparatory steps to deploy the Justice Department's

so-called national forces. There was no formal request from the U.S. Capitol Police, the Secret Service, or the Metropolitan Police Department. In fact, no external request from any agency. The leadership in justice and the FBI anticipated the worst and decided to act independently, the special operations forces lurking behind the scenes. So here's the question I have with this story. If they knew all of this, if they had the foresight to say there was a very serious

threat, where was the National Guard? Where were the Capitol Police? Why weren't they sharing intelligence? Why weren't they doing anything to prevent the so-called it's almost like they wanted it to happen so i i can i can explain to everybody a couple of things here if you want um so there was that bit so right before we started there was a question of because i think tim you had seen on the daily mail the way they categorized this i think it was daily mail was it may have been Daily Mail. That Trump had deployed these teams, right, which changes things.

But if you read through what it states is, is that Trump had approved the authority for these teams. But Trump approved the authority for these teams back during the summer of 2020. And he had put the order in because, remember, the riots were going on late May, early June 2020. Horrific. The city of D.C he had put the order in because remember, the riots were going on late May, early June 2020. Horrific. The city of DC was on fire. Hold on. Trump authorized commandos with shoot to kill authority because of the George Floyd riots. So yes and no. Well, yes, right. It's not like it's not like he specifically said that. But this it look, this is this what we would call this is the NCR con op. So the NCR con op, and if Tom Sauer were here, he would know exactly what I'm talking about.

That essentially means if there is a threat to the national capital region, that's kind of like all bets are off. Like this is the head of the government, right? So if there is a threat to the national capital region, that stuff's just in place. You just press the button and boom, all this stuff gets spun up. And it gets spun up real fast. And so I believe, and I knew, and I reported some of this back when it happened, but there were reports that the 82nd Airborne was flying airborne. Remember those helicopters that you saw over DC during the summer of 2020?

So let me just put it this way. If the 82nd is up in the air, who do you think is on those birds, right? Who do you think is operating on the ground if you can the 82nd is up in the air who do you think is on those birds right who do you think is operating on the ground if you can see the 82nd up in the air right it's just one of those like common sense kind of things like just think about this that's tier one response because if the head of government goes down right who else is left like you need to defend the capital and so they do not play any jokes where they do not mess around with that stuff and so we already knew that bar during the of 2020, had taken the step to deputize all federal law enforcement agencies. Remember this. This was reported. I know you've talked about it.

Are you talking about in Oregon? Throughout the entire country. All three-letter agencies that were 1811. So if you have an 1811, that means you're a special agent. So if you're a customs and border patrol under DHS, if you're a secret service, if you're even, even IRS, right. Has 18 11s. That's, that's your special agent, federal law enforcement. That means I'm federal agent, right. Federal agent, right. That's 18 11. So an 18 11, however, is not normally tasked with, or you're a prisons, for example, that's eight had, they have 18 11s. You're not usually tasked with defending the Capitol bar put forward the, this is the same reason why BORTAC,

which is the special ops unit for the border, went up to Oregon. So Barr had put out this blanket order. So a bunch of these blanket orders were signed during that period. This is one of them. However, I don't think Trump ever considered that it would be used at the Capitol during this.

However, because the authority was already signed, Rosen looked at it and said, yeah, sure, send them to the Capitol. They didn't do anything though. So we know. Oh, I see, I see. Well, so what I think, I think the reason this is,

why is this coming out in Newsweek now? Why, when there's been so many questions about January 6th, when this has been front page news, even though, by the way, the ratings on anything related to January 6th, they're in the dumpster, right? Nobody in like the rest of the country

is really caring that much about this. And the opinion polls bear this out, that you have one narrow band of people that like really, really care about it. And they all watch Rachel Maddow and Joy Reid. And a lot of them are in the White House currently, like Ron Klain. But other than that, people have kind of moved on.

They care about inflation. They care about the gas prices, et cetera. But suddenly, you've got people like Darren Beatty, like myself, who have been out there talking about, you know, Tucker Carlson had this huge documentary about what was going on with federal agents in terms of this. We're one year away from it. We know that the January 6th committee has been continuing. They're going after Hannity now. They're going after other people hannity they knew they are they've they've

just requested his um you know they've requested his assistance and then if he doesn't comply that'll be next step did they request uh documents from you i have not been i have not had any communication january 6th uh committee and then, where was I on that? Okay, so they know that something is going to come out regarding this. And remember, they all called Tucker Carlson crazy. They said a tinfoil hair on fire for suggesting that federal agents from these agencies may have been involved on January 6th or involved with any of these militias or anything like that. And now suddenly we get these people coming out on their own. I see.

To say, well, okay, we did have special operations commandos, but they were only there to protect. They were only there to do this. And we guarantee they weren't doing anything else. So you think that some of these guys were involved with effectively planning or pushing people towards things like that? I don't want to say that guy's name necessarily, but there's a guy who everyone's accusing of being a fed. Yeah. And I don't even know if it would be that far, but I would guarantee you that at some level, if these guys were doing their jobs, they would be running operations. They would be dressing up, playing clothes. They would be going

into the crowd. They would be saying be saying hey what are you guys doing after what are you doing after the after the thing you guys you're going up to the capitol maybe i think the narrative is already i think that's all going to come out well the idea that the doj had enough foresight to prepare to have special operations on the ground suggests that for some reason they did not have standard law enforcement police or national guard that they were they were so worried about a terror attack that they get a handful of these commandos why not go talk to the police and say hey look we think this is a serious threat so why don't you beef up security which by the way in that video where the guy says you're you're you're

don't bury the lead there was a terror attack There were pipe bombs that were planted on January 5th, the night before, at the RNC and the DNC. I'm like, you know, I get that you want to go after, like, rolling up, you know, MAGA memos and everything in Alaska. But I'm a little bit more worried about who was planting the pipe bombs at the heads of our national committees for both parties. The intelligence agencies definitely lost Vegas shooter, that thing. Oh, yeah. Steven Paddock, the guy who – That's definitely one way of expressing it. Largest mass shooting in U.S. history, and yet we don't even know anything about this motive.

And then the fact that we had this incident all over Washington, D.C., which is a surveillance grid, which has surveillance cameras everywhere. You had someone leaving pipe bombs, and they still haven't caught the person that did that? Yeah, next to the Capitol, and I believe the RNC or DNC as well. There's a number of pipe bombs that day. And this, of course, leads to a lot of speculation, a lot of conspiracy theories that there was a plan B. If something didn't work out, that they would use this as a as a as a you've seen you've seen the blue and on thing on this right yep who they claim who it is oh no i didn't see that you haven't seen this there is a blue and on thing out there where they claim that the pipe bomb because of what is it

there's like some reason that they say from the video i don't know if it's the sneakers or the walk or something blue and on actually claims that the pipe bomber was marjorie taylor green i i kid you not it like you can go go look it up they they actually have i don't know if there's articles but you can find it on like tiktok and stuff where they say yeah that we think it was marjorie taylor green and they have these whole theories and like where was she the night before etc they're making fake tweets about it no no no joke daily dot fake tweet attempts to link marjorie taylor green to capital daily dot is like as far left crazy as you can go i'm kind of with you here jack i think the federal government is more implicated here than we need we even know about. Wait, wait, wait. Look at this. Same gait. Same left arm swing. Same dropped left shoulder.

That is crazy. Shoes look the same. Turns out it was a human. Wait, wait. Guys, guys. Dark pants. Whoa, whoa. Dark pants were both worn by Marjorie Taylor Greene.

That's a shadow. And the Pipe Bomber. Casts a shadow. Roller suitcase. A roller suitcase. She has a roller bag, too? She also a shadow roller suitcase. A roller suitcase. She has a roller bag too? She also has a roller bag. Nobody has a roller bag.

Nobody has a roller bag. Not a single person. They stopped using those in the 90s. I mean, that's fair. Now everyone's got skateboards. They carry all their stuff in individually wrapped plastic bags. I'm going to have to be skeptical on this one. I've been watching a lot of information on the bombing of Pearl Harbor, and I've heard that the American government knew there was going to be an attack.

They didn't know where, so they just let it happen because they needed to incite the people to get angry and go to war. And when I see these waiting, letting it happen, they knew they were there just in case, but they kind of let something happen, it looks like. They obviously didn't stop it i i can't i can't uh well that's the whole thing about like admiral layton who was the n2 or the j2 for paycom at the time who was the intel director out there before he was admiral i think he was commander layton uh many of you buddies are getting mad at me for that one he he had predicted that it would come to pearl harbor but nobody listened to him yeah so there's a there's a couple of different ways people address that they say either we had reason to believe it was ignored, we had intelligence it was ignored, or they outright knew it was about to happen and said, stand down, we need it.

Well, it's not that we didn't miss that the entire Japanese fleet left Tokyo. It was the idea, are they going to hit the Philippines, are they going to hit Hong Kong, or are they going to hit Hawaii? And what people don't realize is that they actually hit all three at the same time. But I will say this, because I can't speak to that stuff. I will say the history people think they know, man, if you had any idea. And the example I often give is... If the news are fake, imagine history. Take a look at Occupy Wall Street. Occupy Wall Street, the story of what went on in Occupy Wall Street is predominantly told by those who favored Occupy Wall Street.

The people who opposed it weren't in the park. So there were very few people who are going to give you an honest assessment of what actually happened there. And even the people who opposed it weren't in the park. So there were very few people who are going to give you an honest assessment of what actually happened there. And even the people who might be there as actual journalists couldn't see the entirety of the picture. Not even I could, not even Luke could. We were down there. But I'll tell you this, the stuff I see they write about Occupy and what was going on,

I'm like, man, they just lie about everything to make it seem good. What's going to happen is it's going to be 20, 30 years and they're going to be like, we're going to read this book on what happened during Occupy Wall Street, and it's going to be all fluff. All of the bad stuff stripped out, and I'm sure the same is true for American history and for the revolution. Spanish Civil War specifically. Spanish Civil War. There's probably a whole bunch of really crazy, gruesome, awful stuff the Americans did during the War for Independence that just doesn't get told about. Yeah, dude, the native american genocide

the conquest well i i mean it's conquest you look at um the movie the patriot with mel gibson which is a fantastic movie and they talk about the the you know what did he call it i don't know the wilderness campaign the really brutal stuff that this guy did there's there's probably stuff you're never going to hear because the people who won were probably like don't tell them what we had to do to win give them a good victory story it's actually why i like the movie fury if you've seen that one oh really you haven't seen that so this is the movie any any of you guys know no so brad pitt um i think shia labeouf is in it and a couple other people um and it just it's it's the story of like one tank one tank unit uh in europe and it's just the it's the mud and the grit and the

dirt and like some kid comes up with you know with an rpg and they've got to shoot the kid right or else he's going to blow up the tank and kill everybody and it's just it's dirty and it's nasty and there's this one this one part where brad pitt has and they have the german right and so child about has just joined the unit um is kind of the plot of it. And they've got this Nazi that they've captured. And Brad Pitt's like, we ain't got no room for prisoners here. This ain't a prisoner unit. And he's like, he's got a job.

His job is killing you. You got a job. Your job is killing him. Are you going to do your job? Are you going to let him do his job? And it's just like all these various scenes like that culminating. The first thing he has to do is wash his buddy's face and guts out of the tank because he's taken that seat. Yeah, I've seen that movie.

It was very, very. Now it reminded me exactly of what you were talking about. But this is what 99% of warfare was like. Yeah, and there's also the bombing of Dresden, which also goes unaddressed and not talked about. What FDR knew about the camps. There's so much history that, again, we just aren't privy to, and so much of it has been captured. The guy who infiltrated Auschwitz twice was writing reports in the early 40s

back to a Polish underground intelligence officer, infiltrates Auschwitz, sets up literally a radio relay from inside the camp to get it out to the Polish underground. They send the reports back to the British. The British put it on a shelf. Yep. Wow. FDR too. And yeah, FDR.

Let's talk about modern sentiments because I want to stay on the January 6th topic. We have the story from Newsweek. Biden starts 2022 trailing Trump by average of nearly five points in 2024 election polls. Now, I would like you to all enter the worldview of the establishment left. They believe that Donald Trump staged a military coup and failed. They believe that Donald Trump staged an insurrection and failed. They believe that he is currently trying to engage in another coup and another insurrection, the Atlantic rights. Trump's next coup has already begun.

January 6th was practice. Donald Trump's GOP is much better positioned to subvert the next election. Combine these stories and you will start to see a very interesting picture. Is this the one where it's like, you know, people are running for local precinct chair and stuff? But look, there's another story that we talked about on the show a few weeks ago where it says the Trump conspiracy is still continuing. If the Atlantic, if these mainstream publications genuinely believe that Trump is actively engaging in the subversion of U.S. democracy, it means that the polls show more Americans favor the insurrection and the coup than the establishment government. Well, I have a thing on this, and I was kind of joking around on Twitter yesterday, and

I said, you know, all of the headlines make sense if you can learn to speak regime-glish. Regime-glish. Regime-glish, yeah. I figured you'd like that one. And so if you speak regime-glish, so, and I lifted this bit from um from adrian vermule and uh i don't usually make it a habit of quoting harvard professors but you know he's kind of like a token you know good guy so i'll quote him and he said when they say democracy they really mean liberalism right so just always always substitute the word you know trump is a threat to democracy

trump is a threat to liberalism trump is thinking to subvert democracy trump is seeking to subvert liberalism you see that but i don't think liberalism is the right word because they're a cult it's something entirely liberal economic order that thing they started in the 40s the liberal order did you see that clip that went viral where you know they're like the republicans are a threat to democracy because they might win elections yeah this is it's not a coup when you unseat a sitting president through votes and win the election. That's a natural way that it functions. It might seem coupish because it's a new guy coming in and unseating the old man. They have, right, in their own mind, they have gone so far into their own, you could use the phrase of the day, mass formation psychosis, where they actually believe that democracy and liberalism are synonymous, that they're the same thing.

There can be no other order. And this, of course, is not just a masturbation psychosis thing. This is actually a religious belief, right? You know, there can only be one true religion. So if there can only be one true order, then anything that arises that's a threat to that, that's outside the Overton window of our order must therefore be against all of democracy. Take a look at this other story we have from Timcast.com. About half of both Republicans and Democrats view the other side as enemies that threaten their entire way of life. Wow. So maybe it is true. You know, maybe most Americans, if an election was held today, would vote for Donald Trump over Joe Biden. But here's the thing. Those Americans who support Donald Trump don't believe an insurrection happened.

These are people who probably read the news, watch the news, saw what's going on, and they're like, that's ridiculous. The narrative isn't true. Because if they truly believed that what Trump did was a military coup, they probably wouldn't support him. But they don't because – A military coup without the military or without any guns. And a bunch of – yeah, a bunch of unarmed people.

And most of which were let in through open doors and smiling police. And this will be – and Nancy Pelosi, if you're watching, right? I think – and I think I said this on air. She does not use the internet. Oh, no, Anne. No, but her little acolytes do. That the disparity here is that the people inside the media and inside the Democrat Party and inside the January 6th committee say that every single person that showed up on January 6th was anti-constitution. But if you talk to anybody who was in the crowd on January 6th, right, they probably every single one of them would have said, no, I am for the Constitution.

You're not following the Constitution. And that's why we're here. Right. So in their mind, they are the ones fighting against a coup you get it right in a way it's like the easiest solution because neither one of them intend to stage a coup they both think the other one's doing what they're doing or or they the other one thinks that they're doing what they think the other one's doing and like yeah but that's effectively wrong yeah so how do you unwind that here here's what i think when I see this. I think this is mostly a product of the incoming generation and polarization from the previous

generation. So I don't think we're seeing this hyperpolarization just because people are reading social media and becoming polarized. I think it's that younger people who are more radicalized by the previous generation, or I think a fair way to put it is when you look at the Pew graph, conservatives have barely moved to the right at all. The left has gone far left. You have corporate America and, you know, liberal parents in big cities pushing this heavy indoctrination. I mean, my whole childhood growing up, it was just endless leftist, you know, talking points. So these people grow up living in this world, which is far left.

They weren't converted to the far left. They have developed in a far left mindset. So as time goes on, it is the new generations that are polarized against each other. What I mean to say is two millennials, one who is far left and one who is conservative, weren't like previously friends who read a news article and then went, I now disagree with you. Oh no, why are we enemies? These are people who grew up in entirely different realities and cannot see the other side. Now, it is true. It is the rule on the right. The right does read left wing publications and does follow left wing individuals. And it is the rule on the left that they don't. We've gone through the graphs. We've pulled up many personalities. They don't read

right wing news. So you have the left that is in a collective in an echo chamber and the right, which, you know, looks at both. They're not going to get along. I've also said, though, that this this one of the biggest problems on, you know, of conservatives or like, you know, up into now is that conservatives will pathologically deny and reject the notion that pop culture and Hollywood have any effect on society. You know, they, they say, Oh no, those are just movies. That's not real. Don't worry about that. Whereas, as you just said, there's an inundation of left-wing talking points out there. And a lot of that is coming through Hollywood, whether that be TV movies, in some cases, video games now where it's coming in.

And whereas if you're on the right, you're like, oh, well, no, we can just separate that out. And it's like, no, that's not how it works. And I think the new right is at least finally trying to get that like software upgrade and understanding. No, wait, you know, we actually have to do something about this because but it's amazing because I will tweet something about this and say hey i think this tv show or this movie or whatever it is had a bunch of influence in this direction and i will get conservative saying oh that's crazy that's ridiculous you can't talk about this but what did barack obama do when he was in office he would go on late night shows he would go on comedy he would do all this stuff he would appear you know in things and people would say and people on the

right would say would just laugh and they would attack it and they say it was stupid he would go on youtube and people would attack him and meanwhile on the left they're like oh i like this guy this guy's cool and this is the mistake that the media made with trump when trump had his well-done steak with ketchup he had a was like a 30-day dry age steak yes well done with ketchup yes the media mocked him for it but that made him more relatable to middle America. Well, just really quickly, this is why I think Barack Obama, after he left office, started to work with Netflix with an exclusive deal. 100%. And I would even go further than you, Jack.

I wouldn't say it's talking points. I would say it's covert, subliminal messaging that, of course, is put onto people through the forms of entertainment. It's not entertainment. It's propaganda. And it's fomented in a way where it's not, I don't think it's leftist ideology. I believe the entire left has been taken over by a corporate establishment that is using them as a conduit to push their agenda to make people weaker, to make people dumber, to make people more needy for centralization, which of course is going to be granted and given to them

through the multinational corporations. So I think, you know, I wouldn't even describe these as leftist ideas, but more of corporatist ideas with them really calling the shots here from my perspective. Is it just fascism? You know, like with big corporations and government colluding with each other? Yeah, it's a new kind of digital fascism. I mean, that's literal fascism.

But also now with the latest psychological tricks, they could get in our brain in ways that they never could before, especially with, again, social media, especially with how we interact with them and all the information we give them. They have data sets that dictators would have wished to have that will, again, help them conquer the general public because we're literally giving them everything about us. And when they know everything, they could weaponize that and use it against us.

So have you guys seen Don't Look Up yet? Yes. Of course. You've seen it. I thought it was great. One thing, I really enjoyed it, and I enjoyed the social commentary, and people were lighting me up for saying that I liked this because everybody gets scared in it.

But one thing that I don't think people realized very well is the primary antagonist, like the main villain of the movie, is a tech oligarch, transhumanist, globalist. Slash Bill Gates. Yeah, it's like Bill Gates, Elon Musk, and like a Hillary type. No, no, no. It shows a picture of the president hugging Bill Clinton.

Oh, wow. Yeah, and it's irrelevant to the scene. When we were watching, Luke's like, look. Clinton, Clinton, Clinton. It's like, have a second. I didn't even notice that. I totally didn't notice that. Yeah, in the middle of the conversation, it just jumps to a picture of the president hugging Bill Clinton for no reason.

And I'm like, I get it. At the very least. I think, is this one of the first times that we've seen that a tech oligarch has been portrayed as the villain in a movie? Kingsman. Kingsman, yeah, would be one. The Circle, I think, would be another one, which nobody has seen, even though it was Tom Hanks and Emma Watson. They totally memory-hauled that one because it was too true. I didn't think it was.

I saw it. I barely remember it. I loved it. I thought it was fantastic. I thought it was fantastic. But one of the key things in Don't Look Up and that one is that all of what Luke was just talking about. They have all your data. And the way this is played out in Don't Look Up, and I thought it was funny.

He was like, I can actually predict how you're going to die. Down to 96.6 percentage. And I looked up your algorithm when you left. The one thing I remember is you'll die alone. And there's also that amazon which i'm not gonna spoil it but actually it was it was wrong that guy if you if you remember the ending actually his prediction spoiler good i know a little bit of a spoiler what was the amazon series that they that they canceled season two of because it was too real utopia utopia that was another one i don't know that went after oh you have to watch that one it's about a tech a tech billionaire who's worried about overpopulation.

He makes fake meat. Wait, wait. And this was on Amazon? It was on Amazon. Hold on. Hold on. It gets crazier. Hold on.

Let me just get through this. Explain it. Bezos is like, I don't think so. They canceled it. They canceled it. All right. Hold on. Yeah.

Bezos had to. Utopia is about a tech billionaire. He makes fake meat. He's concerned about overpopulation and climate change. So he stages a fake pandemic to rush through a vaccine without proper approval that secretly is sterilizing people. You're still talking about a TV show. I'm not done. This isn't Luke's latest.

In the show, there is a comic book that reveals what the plan is and what's going on and it's the comic book is called utopia and so when they find it they're looking through it to figure out clues for what's happening in real life because whoever wrote this has privy to information so it's like a whistleblower is writing the mad scientist so hold on part of doing so let me explain to you it's a tv show where they find a piece of art and media that explains to them a tech billionaire who's worried about overpopulation is pushing through a rushed vaccine with a fake pandemic to sterilize people. Now, now, let's talk about reality. In the real world, we have a piece of art that claims to say that there's a tech billionaire who's concerned about overpopulation. But as we all know, our tech billionaires are concerned about overpopulation.

They want fake money. Wait, wait. Our tech billionaires just care about us. They just care about us. They're not trying to depopulate the planet. Put us in the metaverse. No. I've been diving deep into the metaverse this last couple of weeks.

It's one thing I've been doing. I got turned on to this woman, Melanie Swan by Allison McDowell. Thanks, Allison, who's very skeptical about blockchain and how it's basically a big tracking mechanism. This fascist global organization is going to use blockchain to track people. They want to create what's called decentralized autonomous communicative service, a DA. Let's see what this is called. I think I'm coming through loud. I hope you guys like this.

Decentralized autonomous corporationous Corporation as a block. The blockchain is a brain. They want to upload everyone's behaviors, thoughts, and feelings to this blockchain together to create this Uber mind and then just track it and do what? I don't know because a lot of this code is private. Elon Musk is building brain interface chips, and they're all talking about the metaverse, which is pretty much online digital heroin from my perspective that's what i think is hilarious is that like people will go off about bill gates but then elon musk will come out and say no i literally want to put a chip in your brain yes and then and then nobody says anything they're like no but he's cool but elon also attacked crypto because it was allegedly bad for the environment you know so so again right

there's the you went on SNL and attacked it too. Exactly. So there's a lot of things that the billionaires are up to that I think they have way too much control, way too much power, way too much influence. And they got there because of government. And now they're using government for their own personal benefit. And the billionaires are getting super rich right now. From one year, their wealth increased, I think it was $319 billion. Someone needs to correct me if I'm wrong. One year,

the top wealth of nine billionaires increased $319 billion. You saw that photo, by the way, of Jeff Bezos down on his yacht. Oh, yeah. Getting serviced by the lady with a mask. Getting serviced by the lady with the mask. And he's there, like, glistening in the sun on his super yacht.

Just like, you know, developing immunity it will it will not be a tech this is it and so no metaverse metaverse is how they right exactly metaverse is how they establish elysium right because the neo-feudalism and then the elysium tech aspect comes in because you're distracted you're distracted by and look palmer lucky like i love you dude i think you're a good guy and all, but like, why did you give Oculus to Mark Zuckerberg, man? Come on.

He would have done it. This was a step in that direction. He would have done it regardless. He would have done it regardless, but this is where it's going. And by the way, I saw Zuby just got booked in the metaverse, so he's going to be playing a show. What website? Did he say a

website there's a few of them now there's decentraland is one yeah is it a site or is it a place it's multiple places yeah it's like a place in the metaverse is meaningless what people keep saying in the metaverse it's like yo there's been second life there have been apps for this forever sure and now they're just calling it a metaverse or the metaverse they're going to integrate finances in with a great great branding i got into um yeah mark zuckerberg's branding it's also the the phrase used to describe a nightmare dystopia but sure i got into this decentraland bill ottman ceo of mine this is how they do it man i went in this is how they're going to do it is you're going to be hooked up to this and mark zuckerberg's going to be down at saint bart's

and his life's going to be getting longer and longer and his yachts are going to be getting bigger and bigger and leonardo dicaprio's islands are going to be increasing and he's going to be bringing more and more people down there while he talks about climate change and all this is going to be going on and you're going to say oh did you see what's going on a metaverse you know you're going to be in a pot eating the bugs you're eight you're 100 making money on the metaverse and going to be completely dependent on the system it's going to be terrifying dude totally plugged in from birth plugged in from birth. Little kids in the womb might be playing games with their thoughts.

The Matrix. Digital heroin. I think that's more of an accurate depiction because when people are hooked on it, just like they are social media, you see them in the grips of what the algorithms make them and what they're doing to people, especially young people, is absolutely horrible.

The polls understand this inherently. You don't need to explain this to us. Jack, I just figured it out. What do you got? So in Star Trek, what happens is, you know, Zephram Cochran,

he discovers warp technology right as the Vulcans were passing by. Sure, and that's first contact. First contact, right. In our reality, the Borg was just passing by. Well, that is, we're in the one where they change then.

Right. Because that's actually the plot of First Contact, where they go back in time. And it's the Borg was just passing by. Well, that is – we're in the one where they change then. Right. Because that's actually the plot of First Contact where they go back in time. The Borg comes. And it's the Borg that comes. But the Borg – And they make First Contact. And then you see for like a glimpse, right, what the future would look like. And it's like a Borg world instead of the earth.

Yeah, toxic gas. The atmosphere is polluted. So the humans are just assimilated immediately? Yeah, yeah. The entire planet is – No, no, not immediately. It's that it shows you what the 24th century would look like if the Borg had made first contact

rather than the Vulcans. So for those that aren't familiar with this nerd stuff, the Borg is a race of people who are assimilated with technology into a hive mind like digitally. And so they all become mindless drones. Basically everything Ian just said. Kind of like a DAC, a Decent said like a decentralized autonomous corporation yeah so what's going to happen on a blockchain so do you

see what alex jones was saying when he went on that rant and he was like an alien intelligence has taken us over and i'm sick of it and like he recently was yelling that i mean he's been yelling for 20 years but artificial intelligence could be considered alien, right? Because it's brand new. It's not on this earth. It's a fine alien. It's alien to our species. And he might not be wrong, especially with how fast AI has been developing and its larger consequences of it creating godlike authority and what Putin calls the new nuclear weapons that will be far more devastating on humanity. And the country that develops it first will be the ones controlling the world. So there's a lot to unpack there, but he he might he might not be wrong there let's be real this is what

yuval harari he calls it homo deus right human gods human gods and and i think there's there's a whole meta clip of this where it's uh it's elon musk on rogan and they they intersperse it with alex jones on rogan and you actually hear that they're saying the same things, right? They're talking about the exact same things. Alex just does it in a more bombastic way. Elon does it in that like softer, more mercurial kind of way, but they're actually describing the exact same dynamics and forces at play. Absolutely.

It's kind of like they say, if you keep using old tools to build the modern system, you're just going to end up with an old system because you're using old tools. We're building the tools that we will use to build the future. I've been doing a lot of math in the last couple of weeks. The Fibonacci sequence, you take the past number, add it to the current number to get the future number. The past number is one. The current number is one.

The next number is going to be two. Everyone forgot. And that's what technology is doing. Everyone forgot what Yoda taught them. We're going to be using this technology to create this technology. Everyone forgot what Yoda's most important lesson of all. We are luminous beings. We are not this crude matter.

100%. I think we're the brains. Have you ever seen a picture of the brain stem connected to the brain with the brain stem and the eyeballs? Have you ever seen that picture? Yes. It looks like an alien. That's what we are. Check it out. That's just your interface man in china right now in

china right now to go anywhere you need an app yes and and there's the viral video out of israel where the guy needs the green pass you see this one mcdonald's mcdonald's and then if you click you don't have one it just resets yeah it just kicks you out just you're just this is you're just not this is it's all necessary for transhumanism if if if we're going to uh in order for transhumanism to exist people have to step above the human experience it no longer can be about carnal pleasures dopamine family traditional anything the human race has to be looked at like lab rats or chickens in a farm or not even a farm, like a laboratory to be controlled, to be mapped out. And that's what these people are doing. Now they'll probably end up building an artificial intelligence that will start guiding that

behavior. But ultimately the way I see it is you have single celled organisms and eventually they become multicellular organisms. Well, single cells go about their business and do their thing. But in the human body, you have highly specialized cells that do basically one thing with their cells, right? I think that's how they view the human race. Each individual human is just a stupid human going about its business. And if we fuse all the humans together, we can make a multi-organism system, a higher plane of existence. I think that is part of what they want to do. Basically creating a hive mind. Put everybody in the metaverse, put everybody in the system, have all their brains work as like decentralized computational power, but it's going to require everyone to be,

it's going to require homogenized cultures, homogenized behavior. So what do they do? Everybody gets a green pass. Everybody fall in line and those who don't, well, it's friction in the system, right? You were mentioning friction. You make a system where it's extremely difficult to exist outside of it. And eventually, given a few generations, people will not exist outside of it. Or they will be, but they'll be irrelevant. Yeah. There's a very American ideal that I will die for freedom. I will die for the right to make my own decisions. And I will, you know, sacrifice myself on the altar of liberty if need be. And I think that is sort of the American ethos, right? But at the same time, just look at the last two years, right? Humans comply. By and large, the majority of people will comply. And as the water increases,

right, the boiling temperature of the water, it increases, it increases, it increases. And some people will say, hey, I think this water is getting hot. Hey, guys, I think these waters are getting, maybe we shouldn't be in this pot anymore, guys. I don't know. What do you think? That guy's crazy. This water isn't getting hot. I feel fine. Right. And yet the water is getting hotter and hotter and hotter. And then eventually you boil. And meanwhile, everybody who jumped out was called crazy for jumping out in the first place. And I think that's closer to human nature.

And I think that we've seen by and large, the distribution pattern of human behavior has been that look, uh, when it comes to America, when it comes to Liberty, when it comes to the revolution, you know, people say it to liberty, when it comes to the revolution, people say it was less than a third of the American colonists actually supported the revolution, actually went along with all this stuff. A little bit more. I did a bit of research.

I mean, it's hard to, yeah. But just really quick before we jump into that point, but there's also a Florida man that don't give a damn that bathes in it and then just throws alcohol in it. That's not true.

Excuse me. I was not bringing Florida Man into this. There is no need. Much love for Florida Man. No need to bring Florida Man into this. Do you know why? The myth of Florida Man is based on Sunshine Law. Exactly.

And they have – we all know about that. But there is – Wait, wait, wait. Break that down because that doesn't get said enough. Yeah, it doesn't. There's records release laws. Like if you commit a crime in Florida, the public has a right to know. A lot of states don't do that.

So you'll constantly hear stories about Florida man doing something. Yeah, it's just because they release the information. It's because they release the information other states don't. We're all like that. If you're bored, just look up Florida man in a particular date. That being said, if you go to like Western Florida, there's Florida man down there. I did a lot of research into how many people supported the revolution. And there's a famous letter where i

think medman ben franklin wrote a third support it a third don't care a third oppose it but that's not true that was just like a talking point it was just rhetoric okay the the the best i could find was that it was like if i was going to give it a number because i don't think they gave a number they said a a plurality but not a majority 30 to 40, like 38 to 40 percent supported independence. And then it was like 20 something percent that opposed it. And then the next group was completely neutral. But it was it was I don't think it's as cut and dry that most people didn't care. I think that I think that is true. So I think my math might be wrong, but it was like it was a mix. The best I could find this and it's not easy – was that a large portion, if not the majority, like the plurality, wanted independence.

And the next biggest group was, leave me alone. I don't care. I want to have nothing to do with this. Then you had opposites. You had loyalists. You had the Tories or whatever they were. Right, and that's why Canada exists, by the way. Yeah, Quebec said no.

Yeah. Because that was originally going to be the 14th colony. Right, so there were you know the canadian colonies were still what there was no separation like there is now it was just the north american colonies but a lot of the tories moved up to canada and said no we're going to fortify this area this was benedict arnold's original mission by the way going through the great lakes to try to take those tory colonies didn't go so well um he gets mad that he says he wasn't supported by washington etc as he flips that's the whole

story canadians overlooked for promotion but they're actually that this if you go into this this was the american invasion of canada yeah no we did invade uh we we did didn't we we uh the united states tried taking montreal burnt and burned toronto well what is that 1812 at the time it was no no this is well yeah that that's at that and then so at the time it was called york is what i was gonna say oh well and then so the burning of the white house was kind of seen as like a response to the burning of york let's talk about la resistance from the post-millennial half a million sign up on getter after joe rogan joins platform with a simple tweet to see joe rogan destroyed big tech and tore apart the chains of political discrimination holding back millions of patriots okay that might be a little bit over

the top. As we are talking about the power of Silicon Valley and the metaverse and these tech billionaires, any opposition to this, be it, you know, Getter or Gab or whatever, is a good thing. The Postmillennial reports more than half a million people have joined Getter, a pro-free speech social media alternative. The surge in popularity was sparked by Joe Rogan. I don't think that's true necessarily. They say popularity was sparked by Joe Rogan. I don't think that's true necessarily. They say it was sparked by Joe Rogan joining the platform.

I think it was Dr. Robert Malone and Marjorie Taylor Greene being banned. I think it was a snowball. Well, then Malone goes on the Joe Rogan podcast and says, I'm on Getter. I signed up. I'm pretty sure I signed up. I saw some people signing up. Oh, Tim doesn't want to get written out of the story. That's what it is. No, no, no. I was not the first person – I saw some people signing up. Oh, Tim doesn't want to get written out of the story. That's what it is.

No, no, no. I was not the first person. I saw other people saying they were getting on Getter. No, I know because you sent me a message that morning. Right. Before Joe Rogan said anything. Before Joe Rogan. No, I'll back you up on that.

You did. I said, do you know the guys at Getter? I want to – it's not – I need to gain control of the account. Well, because what they do is they – and a lot of like minds did this too where they would take like if someone's got a big account somewhere else, they would go and then reserve the same name for them so that someone can come out and camp on your profile name. So I saw other people posting they were going to Getter. I've done this before, but typically I'm like – when Getter came out, I was like, I'm not going to sign up for another one of these things, man. I got too many already. But then after listening to Joe Rogan's podcast, when I heard Dr. Malone say he was going to be there, I was like, I'll claim my account. I'll get on there because if people are going to be using it, I want to hear what they have to say

if they're getting banned. And then Marjorie Taylor Greene is on there, of course. Carl Benjamin is on there. Then I saw Joe Rogan sign up and then I was like, oh, get it. And then everybody after that, once Joe Rogan was like, but it was his podcast that did it. When when i heard his podcast and malone said he was on it that's when i was like i'm gonna look this up i'm gonna see what's up so i think that is what drove it wasn't joe rogan joining it was joe rogan talking about we were saying we were saying it was getter miss i mean i had better engagement and and people know that look you know i look i I look, I don't drink, I don't smoke, I don't do drugs. I'm on Twitter a little bit though, but I had better engagement on getter that day or fact actually it's, and it's still going on. And even until today, I've been having better engagement on getter than I've been

having on Twitter. And that's just because there's more people out there. And so there's a lot of people in the mainstream media who don't understand what engagement is and they don't understand how social media works. And i saw some people tweeting out like oh well getter doesn't have as many users as twitter so you're diluting your brand etc etc by going on these things like no you you don't get how this works you totally don't get how this when the new york times gets like three retweets yeah they go oh my gosh it's flood their notifications are flooded it's crazy when you look at mainstream celebrities and they get no interactions. There are a few people who work for these big media companies that I know,

and I'm like, yo, their accounts are so fake. They get followers because they're put on what's called – I can always tell, dude. I can always tell. I can always tell. When people sign up for Twitter, they're like, follow this person. They go, okay. And then no one cares what the person has to say.

Well, this is the Rubin ratio. Didn't Rubin come up with that? What is it? So it was the Rubin ratio where it's the amount of followers you have versus the amount of engagement you get. Ah, I've not heard that. Yeah. So if you have, so all, and if you look at like, like an Anderson Cooper, right? Like he has a really bad Rubin ratio. Cause he'll have like 3 million followers and no one engages 20 retweets yeah and then for me i make some ish post about random garbage and get like a thousand retweets exactly and then people in media believe it's real and then everyone who retweets it's in on the joke i really love that the funny thing is so many uh i said lol joe biden is so dumb haha got him or something and then mea ww runs the story like

tim pool was slammed i'm like it was a like isn't it obvious these people yet like that my tweets are garbled it's kind of this weird dynamic where they've decided to turn so you understand like if you're not someone who's part of the program right if? If you're not on team, just look up, right? You're a zoo animal, right? Like you're an exhibit to them. It's what I remember. There was one time where Cernovich and I were just randomly joking around about how ugly cargo shorts are. And we got written up.

They're like, the right wing has launched an attack campaign on cargo shorts. How dare they? And it's like this thought piece. And they were trying to explain how right wing ideology led to anti. And I'm like, guys, it was like, it's just, we're just messing around. Hey, there's nothing wrong with cargo shorts. There's everything wrong. Real quick, I want to say something important.

Two things. I completely disagree. Technically, three things. Twitter does not drive engagement. So this was true back when I worked at Vice and Fusion. They don't, like, I think,

I'm not sure if they did, but I'm pretty sure Fusion- Well, it drives engagement on Twitter. On Twitter. But Fusion was like, we don't care for a Twitter button because nobody clicks links on Twitter to go out.

Nope. So there's not, but here's the important thing. On Getter, check this out, Daily Mail has signed up for an account. This is big. They got 384,000 followers. I don't know how many the important thing on getter. Check this out. Daily mail has signed up for an account. This is big. They got 384,000 followers.

I don't know how many are actual followers on getter because they do this thing where they just say you have followers on Twitter for some reason. They migrate your followers over. Yeah. And then people claim their accounts or something. Yeah. And I wish they would, I wish they would. It's clever because it's for a startup, but I wish they would at least, at least if you're

as the user, you could see the differentiation that you could see, hey, this is real. This is what's important, though. In their latest posts from January from yesterday, AOC's ex communications director says Biden is old as ish and deeply unpopular. It's got 164 reposts like retweets effectively for 50 likes, 36 replies. That is really good engagement. The New York Times doesn't even get that engagement on Twitter. Getter engagement's real. It's legit. People talk. And that's what's important. Are you engaging with people? But more importantly, they're actually getting play they probably wouldn't get on

Twitter. Yeah. Getter's got better engagement. And I've seen some people asking me about this. They say, why are there so many Chinese accounts on Getter? And this has come up a lot. And that's one thing where I realized, because I've been on Getter. And this has come up a lot. And that's one thing where I realized because I've been on Getter for a little bit that people don't realize this, that Getter was the first community that came to it was the Chinese whistleblower community. And these guys, I went out and spoke at an event they held actually on the 4th of July at the World Trade Center. And my wife and I got up and we both gave a speech in Mandarin to them. It's this massive organization. It's all it's overseas, predominantly overseas Chinese that have fled the regime, as well as some that are inside China still that are now able to use Getter and use other places to communicate.

And people don't realize how many of them there are. So I think something like I was I was watching an interview with Jason Miller and he actually admitted that like only 30 some percent of Getter's user base is US and the rest is overseas. And Twitter's I think is even less than that. Twitter's like 15% US. I just wanted to ask you, what makes you trust Getter and are there any kind of guarantees that they won't become the next Twitter and start censoring people? Because there's already some rumors that people are being censored and deplatformed from there. Are there any kind of guarantees that you're reassured by when it comes together? Because I signed up because I just saw everyone doing it, but I'm of course skeptical. I mean, I don't think there's any

guarantees on anything in life. Was it death and taxes, right? But I call it, and actually, I think I call it yesterday when you were talking about this, it's your terms of service, right? Are you being held to, are you, are you upholding your terms of service or are you playing games with some kind of like amorphous, vague, ambiguous community guidelines that nobody can really make any sense of? So give me at your terms of service. Okay. I'll read this. I'll say, I can say this. I can't say that. It's at the same way YouTube has terms of service, right? They have certain very clearly say, I can say this. I can't say that, et cetera. Same way YouTube has terms of service, right? They have certain very clearly delineated things that you can and can't say.

Okay, fine. Like this is your playground. I'm going to play by your rules. But at the same time, if you're just arbitrarily censoring people, then that's what I'm going to call out. We read the terms and services. They seemed very legalese and very vague

from our perspective. I mean, that's how I saw it. Is there anything particular in there that kind of you saw that's different than the other platforms? Not specifically, no. Okay. I'm looking at the terms right now. You may not post.

I think a lot of that stuff, though. We read the Getter terms the other day. They have like- Profane. Can't post profane stuff on Getter. Hate speech is banned. Yeah. Define profane.

Hate speech is outright banned. Offensive, yeah. Is it proprietary? Like banned. Is it proprietary? Is it proprietary code? Is it open source code or proprietary code? I can't find it open source. I think it's proprietary. Now, this is important.

Is it criminally defined hate speech? It's up to the admins. There's no such thing as criminally defined hate speech. There is in other countries. Who's going to be the one? That's what I mean. Are they going to be implementing the laws from Germany? Or is there going to be someone else who's going to be making those decisions on what is hate speech and what is not?

And who's going to be making those decisions? And what oversight will there be? With Rumble, though, this is the issue because Rumble is Canadian. And in Canada, they do have hate speech laws. It comes down to the state that the company is incorporated in. You've got to follow those state laws if you're going to go by them. And Getter is Canadian. And in Canada, they do have hate speech laws. It comes down to the state that the company is incorporated in. You got to follow those state laws. If you're going to go by and get her is incorporated. But then,

but then rumble is moving to Florida, right? They're moving their headquarters. My question is, will their move to Florida then change their terms of service? It'll change how they define what's legal in a sense, because even though there's, I think the terms are written so they can stay on the Play Store and the App Store.

Well, yeah, obviously. You don't have to enforce them ever. That's true. Yeah. But they check that stuff. Well, they make excuses. I mean, Twitter's loaded with adult content, and they don't care about that. Hasn't that always been part of Twitter, though?

No, I'm pretty sure it's not allowed. It's quote-unquote not allowed, but they allow it. Like every social network, they can ban you at any time for any reason. When Dorsey was CEO, he was always very public that they allowed porn. I don't know if that's true. You want to pull that up? Yeah, I think Twitter did use porn, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure it's not allowed.

I think Twitter has always said that we allow this. Because the App Store doesn't allow that. Really? The App Store will ban you if you allow adult content. And yet another, and this goes back to Luke's theory of the tech overlords have one set of rules to themselves. No, no. If you type Twitter porn into search, there's a lot of Twitter porn

accounts coming up. I'm not... Okay, well that's not what we're looking for. Stay focused. Okay, we got a job. Is porn on Twitter? Was that the question? Is it banned? No, no. I think we all generally agree that it is on Twitter. Yes, it is on Twitter.

The question is, is it against... Is it allowed or is it against the terms? You know, is it against the terms of service? Non-consensual nudity policy. Well, that's like revenge porn. So consensual nudity they're okay with? Why don't Twitter block porn? I think the idea was they were going to let porn...

If you go to Twitter terms of service, it will state under this that it differentiates between consensually produced. You may not post media that is excessively gory or share violent or adult content within live video or in profile or header images. Media depicting sexual violence and or assault is also not permitted. So does that mean porn is banned? It doesn't sound like it. It doesn't sound like it. It doesn't sound like it. No, it's just saying that it can't be in your profile or your header.

Right, but it can be in your actual feed. No, it doesn't even say anything about that. I don't know. It seems like a little thing. You can't advert. It does not actually. Look up the revenge porn policy because. Well, that's obvious.

No, but I believe it's mentioned in there. That was it. Yeah. What is not a violation of the policy? Look. Oh, I see. Pornography and other forms of consensually... Are allowed on Twitter.

Okay, there you go. They are allowed on Twitter. All right, well, then how are they allowed in the app store? Yeah. That's a good question. And that's something that we battle with at Mines in the early days. Right. It's like, how do you...

They just know people. It's like you get in, you're in the club. Because they're out there, the oligarchs. They're in the club, man. The friends of the friends. You are not. Interesting. Ultimately, I think all these sites should be allowed to have whatever terms they want.

Expect to get banned on any of them if it's not your platform. That's one way to go about it. I don't trust any of this stuff, especially if the code's private. Let's talk about some cultural issue here. And it's going to be a hard side. We read the story from The Independent. I think it's important to talk about. YouTuber Ethan Klein calls Joe Rogan a piece of

ish for vaccine misinformation. Rogan's fan hit back after Klein calls out how podcasters' logic makes no sense. I appreciate you bringing back ish, by the way. Well, Luke did, actually. Oh, Luke did. It's one of my favorite words. I can't say much here. It's deserved.

My vocabulary has been cut, and 25% of it has been cut. So Ethan Klein, a host of H3 Podcast, hit out at podcaster Joe Rogan, saying, Joe Rogan, who lives on elk meat, egg yolk, and human growth hormone with lungs full of tar, thinks he's healthier than everyone. This MF or SHAB, that when he got COVID, he threw the kitchen sink at it. If you're so healthy, just write it out. Like you say, a man should do this cause so much vaccine hesitancy and misinformation. And he doesn't even have the balls to stand by the issue preaches.

Now he's on his show talking about how fat people should just die of COVID due to such an effing piece of ass. Is I mean, I mean, i have a legitimate question that's not a dig is ethan klein saying this because he's an unhealthy overweight individual probably and so like it was like when joe rogan was talking about being overweight and unhealthy it was bad for you no this i think people yeah people take it personally so if you understand if you understand um uh socio-sexual hierarchy? This is typical gamma male rage against an alpha male, right? This is the basic idea of, you know, someone who's kind of at the bottom of the food chain in terms of preference lashing out at someone who is higher up on the food chain from them.

And it's very simple. You see this a lot with YouTubers, but not just YouTubers in general. That's just they're more ubiquitous these days. You see it everywhere. You see it in real life. You see it in, you know, office hierarchy, you see it in high schools, colleges, et cetera. Political leadership. That's when it's scary to an extent. Well, political leadership is a little bit different though, because political leadership isn't, is not conducted because just because of someone's, you know, health and prowess and accomplishment, right? There's all these like Byzantine rules and weight. I mean, look at, you know, we've got like

the Peter principle presidency right now. Joe Biden was not picked because he's our most competent leader, right? That's not exactly how we got there. So for Ethan Klein to lash out, it's totally in line. If you understand social sexual hierarchy, being said my question is he says lungs full of tar is is Joe Rogan a smoker I didn't yeah yeah

he doesn't smoke cigarettes does he I don't think so cigars puffs on oh that's right that's right

I'm pretty sure he does smoke cigars but does he inhale I don't know you don't really you're not supposed to inhale yeah obviously

so how would your lungs be filled with tar but we should also point out that this is some of the stupidest advice given out You're not supposed to inhale cigars. Yeah, obviously. So how would your lungs be filled with tar? I don't know. But we should also point out that this is some of the stupidest advice given out by Ethan Klein that absolutely makes no sense. You're telling Joe Rogan not to take medicine that a doctor is telling him to take? This is the paradox of what he said. Ethan Klein is not a medical doctor.

No one here is a medical doctor. We all have our opinions. Lucas Bill Gates is a medical doctor? Hell no, he's not. But Ethan Klein, to be like, Joe Rogan shouldn't a medical doctor. We all have our opinions. Lucas Bill Gates is a medical doctor? Hell no, he's not. But Ethan Klein, to be like, Joe Rogan shouldn't give medical advice. You should not listen to him. You should listen to them. It's like, bro, you shouldn't be giving medical advice either.

Yeah, he should be hit by YouTube. It's not YouTube. Look up what the medical background of the CEO of Pfizer is. What is it? He's a veterinarian. Oh, he's a veterinarian. He's a veterinarian. He's a veterinarian. And a salesman.

A very good one. Joe is a healthy guy. He looks great. I saw an Instagram video of him doing a front kick a couple days ago. He looks like he's 42 years old. He exercises all the time. You can certainly talk about

your opinions on diet and whether or not eating so much red meat or whatever is good or bad. That's right. But for Ethan Klein to paradoxically – it's actually a bit ironic, I suppose, of him to be like, Joe Rogan's an idiot for saying these things when he's quite literally a podcaster saying the exact same things in the other direction. It's the same problem. Like you should not be – you know what, though? A lot of people have pointed out the goal of what he said was to generate press and it worked here we are talking about him obviously the media

is writing about um you know congratulations explain to me what's wrong exactly with egg elk meat egg yolks and hgh okay i don't know oh i don't know i'm like that i can tell you using that as as an insult he like wrapped he's saying it like wraps two nascent ones in with like a more controversial one and it's supposedly – No, I mean it's somewhere like – Again, it's like, bro, you're on the side of GMOs. You would be on the side of the Sackler family early on in the Oxycontin debate when it comes to this. How dare you be against the Sacklers? I don't think he tweeted for attention.

I think it's like people tweet because people tweet. It's Gamma Bell rates, dude. No, I- 100%. Well, sure, sure. But what I'm saying is- He was not thinking about any of that stuff. He's an unhealthy guy who clearly does not eat right or exercise.

Joe said that's a huge comorbidity and Ethan got upset about it and said, who are you to criticize me when, you know, you won't take the vaccine or whatever. Explain to me the pathology, right? And I've still been trying to actually find this one. And if anyone's in the chat who has this, I've been, I, cause I always try to examine the various, like there's, you know, Dr. Mullen talked about mass formation psychoses, but there's also like narrow formation psychoses. There's all these different little bands of pathologies around in our society today in this post-industrial society that we have. And so the interesting one that I found is like, show me a guy who looks like Ethan Klein,

who's like triple vaxxed, you know, giga vaxxer, who's eaten Uber Eats and DoorDash all the time and yet will scream their head off about you being unvaxxed as a threat to their health what is the pathology there of someone who clearly has not done taken one step to change their personal behavior the cdc demand that you change yours the cdc has said around 30 of covet hospitalizations are in the obese. CNN just came out with a report. This is what Rogan was commenting on. That obesity is a huge contributing factor to hospitalizations and even death.

I don't understand why Ethan should be mad about that. He's saying, now he's on a show talking about how fat people should just die of COVID. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Joe Rogan didn't say that. If Joe Rogan said that, that clip would be er-ware. Right, right. Joe probably was like, you gotta get healthy, man. Start eating better. Hey, I'm pretty sure Joe Rogan didn't say that. If Joe Rogan said that, that clip would be er-ware. Right, right. Joe probably was like, you gotta get healthy, man. Start eating better. We want to talk about

national exercise, mandatory exercise, 10 minutes a day, mandatory calisthenics. Alright, let's go. Let's go. I see Luke smiling. I wouldn't do it just because the government made me do it. Even though I'm exercising right now, that's what I'm thinking about right now. Poland does not comply.

I think that Ethan wants in on the conversation. Luke is like, Poland does not comply. Never. I think that Ethan wants in on the conversation. I feel like he missed the boat into the intellectual dark web because he's a smart enough guy, but his joking kind of idiocy persona thing is keeping him out of the club and he's angry about it. I don't even know if the IDW is a thing for people to attack, but it hasn't actually been a thing for people to like attack, but it hasn't actually been a thing for years. Yeah, just the idea of like a smart, a group of really intelligent podcasting people that are communicating and have kind of a community.

Ethan kind of, I think he wants in on that. However, speaking of which, I believe both Weinstein brothers signed up for Getter. Oh, did they? Yeah, both. The big story would be Daily Mail. When services start signing up, it's no longer just people high-fiving each other. You can actually use the service to get your news. Because they've realized, though, that from a corporate perspective that, hey, we can make money off of this.

All right? And that's as simple as that. And once you've crossed that bridge, now you're the dick. We got to get our crew to set up that account. So we'll hit up the dick. We got to get our crew to set up that account, so we'll hit up the guys. We normally don't announce guests in advance, so I won't give any specific dates, but we're going to have the getter guys on the show. Nice. Or getter guy.

Yeah, we don't have a specific date. Yeah, Luke, keep your questions ready for those guys, man. In the meantime, getter guy. Start working on advertising. I don't work for those guys or anything. I like it. I get a lot of those guys or anything. I just like it. I think Ian will have a lot of traffic there. With your experience with mine, definitely.

Just nail them. If you can start ringing in an advertising program and get these people paid, man, this thing is going to take off. But I want you to open source your code, and then we'll federate it. That's the big move. I think if we start putting all the articles we write at timcast.com on Getter, then that's going to be huge for us. We're going to see way more traction because people are going to be using it, but it gives you a reason to be on Getter.

And then you can track, you know, you can compare and contrast. I think engagement will be massive. I'm telling you, I've seen it. When I post to Twitter, et cetera, my various platforms, Getter is huge. But if they're able to do that, but also implement transparency and accountability for a lot of their decisions, that would put them over the top because people will now know that there's some kind of accountability, some kind of responsibility on the individuals and you will clearly know what you can and cannot say.

Big tech now kind of works in this mysterious way where they let other people like Ethan Klein give medical advice and other people like congressmen and medical doctors and key innovators of the mRNA vaccine technology be censored on that platform for what? I think this is wrong somewhat, Zap. Dr. Malone. That's cool though. You should say that to them.

PhD scientist Robert Malone banned from Twitter Ethan Klein, dude on YouTube, not. No, no, no. And I'll even go this far to say Ethan Klein, dude on YouTube, not. No, no, and I'll even go this far to say Tim Pool, dude on YouTube, not. I post so much random crackpot insanity on Twitter, and I'm like, I don't even know how I still have an account, but they banned scientists and sitting members of Congress? That's insane. The system is broken. And again, what Ethan Klein is criticizing here is a cocktail that, according to Aaron Rodgers,

who also came out and said that he reads Ayn Rand today, by the way, just another shout-out here. But most importantly, what I wanted to mention here, that cocktail, according to – We can find some better literature. Jack, don't get me started here. Most importantly, what Aaron Rodgers also said is that NFL teams are secretly using the Joe Rogan kitchen sink cocktail.

So this is something that Ethan Klein is criticizing that, of course, has helped a lot of people. It helped Dana White. It helped Aaron Rodgers. It helps a lot of professional football players, according to Aaron Rodgers, within the NFL. So why are you criticizing this? How is this your attack point here? I don't care about Aaron Rodgers' opinion. I guess you get the jersey behind him.

I don't care about the NFL's opinion. I care about the fact that they were prescribed something from a doctor. So when the memes go out and they say, like, oh, my doctor doesn't know anything about this, my response is always, dude, if you hired a carpenter who couldn't tell you what a tool was or what kind of wood you were using, you wouldn't hire that person. It's crazy to me that this position of – you mentioned this earlier. Ethan Klein is – Rogan should not have listened to his doctor. That's insane. No, you should listen to a trusted medical professional. You get second opinion.

But what is the response? Joe should have been like, Ethan Klein is right. Doc, I'm not going to listen to you. I'm going to listen to Ethan Klein. Imagine Joe Rogan walking up to his – anybody walking up to their doctor with Ethan Klein's tweet printed out and saying, I'm sorry, sir, but Ethan Klein, this paragon of health virtue has told me. And Don Lemon. And Don Lemon, right?

I actually, did I ever tell you the story when I met Don Lemon? No. Yeah. So I was at, when I was still at One American News, we bought a table at the White House Correspondents Association, I believe it was 2018. Yeah, we bought a table at the white house correspondence association. I believe it was 2018. Yeah. So right after I started,

so I'm there, this was the one where they made fun of Sarah Sanders for her, her eyeshadow. Do you remember that? And that became a whole thing. And she was like on stage. They had this like horrible comedian. So in between a Kathy Griffin was there,

I was sitting next to the right. And the table right next to me, by the way, it was David Hogg. Funny enough. So in our chairs, we're almost directly next to each other. It's funny. Nice.

And he's kind of quiet. And so in between the different speeches, everybody would run to the bathroom. And so all the dudes, and you're all in tuxedos, and you're waiting in line at the men's room. But everybody's kind of like, you know, you recognize everybody in line, even if you don't know them kind of situation. And then all of a sudden Don Lemon just walks up and he goes, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, I'm Don Lemon.

And just pushes his way dead serious ahead of everybody who's in line, every correspondent, excuse me, excuse me, I'm Don Lemon, excuse me, actually saying that. And then just walks right in front of the whole line. He should have been like, excuse me. He wasn't part of the show or anything. And took his hand and said, oh, I'm Jack. Nice to meet you.

I'm Jack. Great to meet you, man. Give him a hug. Watch the show. And it was like, and I mean, just head, not even making eye contact with anybody. Just like, I'm ahead and you all know I'm ahead. And people let him cut

every single let's make a pass it none of us i would have been like that you guys i when i when i i was i wasn't like he was like a host or part of the show or anything like i say this all the time to people if you are in line anywhere and cut people they will do nothing people do not want confrontation you can it's always been the craziest thing me that people wait in lines i'm kind of the guy that'll say something because you're disconcerting all these people behind me i say something in the way in the united states yeah when i was in russia there was no line although i did i did in russia the line is your elbow right so china the line china it's a mad dash and it's like a royal rumble when you're trying to get in those little old ladies when you're trying to get

on the subway if like i'm telling, they've got low center of gravity. And I'm telling you, they would come right over to me. And they would take their bags and just bam. I was dead serious. I was at the airport in Moscow when I was traveling. I was going from UK to Moscow to Ukraine. And in the West, when they were like, now boarding group one, group one walks over and they get in. Now boarding group two.

And then group two gets up. In Russia, they were like, now boarding group one. And every single person rushed full speed. It was a massive people shoulder to shoulder pushing each other out of the way. And I was like, all right, here we go. And then I just, I'm used to being in the big crowds. And if you don't do that, by the way, you're not getting on the plane. That's right.

Or you're getting on last. You're not getting overhead space. Yeah, you might get on last. You won't getting overhead space. Yeah, you might get on last. You won't get overhead space. And so I was like, all right, if this is the game we're playing, and I just shoved through everybody and then boarded right away. I was like, okay. Yeah, people don't understand the whole concept of waiting in line and waiting your turn. That is totally a Western thing, and it's a very American thing.

Outside of the country, it do not exist. Speaking of Western things, we have this story that Jack mentioned to us earlier that's huge. My hometown. My hometown. The Eastern District of Pennsylvania. Yeah. Third former GlaxoSmithKline scientist pleads guilty to stealing trade secrets to benefit Chinese pharma company. Whoa, whoa.

Jack, what's going on? You've got a situation here. So GlaxoSmithKith klein which has a massive facility in uh southeastern pennsylvania throughout upper marion this is king of prussia area people don't or valley forge uh people i'm sure know valley forge as well as malvern pennsylvania one of the richer areas of um all of pennsylvania has a bunch of facilities down there there were chinese scientists who were basically working for this company while also some of them working, some of them subcontracting with GSK, which is a British pharma company, by the way, that has facilities in the United States, were essentially for years stealing secrets, proprietary research from GlaxoSmithKline. The research that upper meridian facility for Glaxo is a research and development center for them.

They were stealing proprietary secrets, sending it back to China and believe it or not, believe it or not, and let the theorizing fly because in 2015, the specific thing that they were stealing secrets on was monoclonal antibodies. This is coming directly from, and we're just reading the DOJ press release on this. Do they mention that in the press release, monoclonals? That's where I got it from. That's the only thing I've seen on it so far. Really? It's like, yeah, a couple paragraphs down.

I'm looking it up. Do you know when they were invented? Look at that. Look at that. In January 2015, Lucy Shi sent Yan Mei, is that how you pronounce it? A GSK document which contained confidential and trade secret data and information. The document provided a summary of GSK research into monoclonal antibodies at that time. In the body of the email, Lucy Shi wrote,

You need to understand it very well. It will help you in your future business. What? Reno Pharma. What? They're powerful. I'll put that out there. Something sinister afoot.

Apparently, they've been around since 1975, doing a little research on the monoclonal antibody treatment process. Monoclonal antibodies have been around for a long time. There's a bunch of different kinds they use for a bunch of different things. It's really a fascinating process. I think that they start to generate some sort of cells in the mouse and then they take those out and put them inside of a guinea pig and then that's where they produce the antibodies. Isn't it related to

stem cells? I don't know much more about it. I was listening to Peter McCullough talking about it on Rogan's podcast. Fascinating stuff. Go watch it if you haven't seen it yet. And that treatment now is also being denied to a lot of people because of the way that they were born, especially in places like New York where the governor has ruled that if

you're born a particular way, you can't even get some of these therapies. It has to be equitable. Equitable distribution. Which is absolutely crazy that we have a health policy run like this. But again, the United States is already very dependent on China for a lot of our medical equipment, for a lot of our drugs that are imported here. And the fact that China is still gaming the market this way,

China has also tried to effectively take the tests that a lot of people take through COVID so they could also DNA harvest, according to the FBI, the general public of the United States, so they could game the big pharma market. I think China sees big pharma as a big threat, as a big institution, and they're trying to counter and become them in many instances. I think this is an example of one of those, but there's many instances where they do this. So to break that down, right, and GSK,

by the way, also has huge facilities right outside of Shanghai. I've been there when I was at the American Chamber and I was working with international business in Shanghai. So what they but the difference is the R&D. So, you know, how like what does it say on the back of like an Apple or an Apple iPhone? It says, you know, design California. Right. Usually says that even though, of course, California is in the United States. But that's another story. I should say design in the USA, but we know why they don't do that. So the R&D is typically done in the United States or somewhere in the West. But the precursors and the actual manufacturing, that's what's being done in China now.

So the Chinese government, the CCP, understands that as long as you cut the proprietary information out, you're only giving us the stuff that's down the chain. We don't understand how you put it all together. We don't understand the research side of it. And so the game for these companies is to keep, it's kind of like KFC keeps their recipe a secret. So you can tell what the ingredients are, but you don't know it all exactly the way it's done. And so the idea is for China, if they can then go and steal all the way you put it together, the same way you were just talking about the source code,

you get the source code, now you can cut them out, now you can do it yourself. So you think the Chinese spies, the spy ring was stealing the source code of how to produce the antibodies out of Philadelphia?

That's 100%. I think Jack is saying that you're a Chinese spy, Ian. You're constantly trying to free the code, by the way, online to everyone because I'm're a Chinese spy, Ian. You're constantly trying to free the code. By the way, online to everyone, because I'm not a Chinese spy. 我们知道这个Ian的话,

他就是这个密码。 然后关于他的话, 他的手机, 他的email address, 然后他的地址address, 我会告诉你们, 等一下告诉你们。 What?

Ian, respond. I'm a huge fan of the Chinese, and I'm sad to see the way that the CCP has hijacked the system. It's true. Well, you know, AI has been, again, their developments in that field is also very eye-opening. But when it comes to intellectual property, they also have stolen a lot and have been able to talk you leave this is how you leapfrog this is how you leapfrog all that stuff like in in shanghai for example uh right that's why i always go back to it that you know they never so remember when when the united states went through a process with phones you know you go

from edison you go from you know the original it's sort of like a dial and then you go to the switchboard and then you go to rotary phones phones, and then eventually you get fiber optic and cellular, right? So you don't need phone lines when you build a new house anymore because nobody wants it. You might need something for internet, but you're not wiring a house anymore. Well, Shanghai never had to go through that process. They don't have wires all over the place, so they just leapfrogged it. It's the same because they were able to get the technology from us right they learned it from us so it's the exact same process

they're leapfrogging and then at the same time they've got the money and the manpower to be able to once they get that process once they get the source code once they get the technology then they can cut us out then eventually think of this right they They cut us out on that end. They already have all the precursors. Now we have to go to them. China's the future, man. Here's a question. If you could get, say there was a treatment like monoclonal antibodies and it turned out it was amazing, but there was American pharma companies trying to profit off of other stuff,

but you could get the clonal antibodies super cheap from the CCP, would you do it? Or would you boycott the CCP? Ian, we already are. That's crazy. That's what Luke's saying. All of this stuff already comes through the CCP. This isn't some new thing. It's that our companies, our Wall Street firms, our Silicon Valley firms have all made deals with the CCP to get their manufacturing, to get their slave labor.

Elon Musk just opened a Tesla facility in Xinjiang, right? In Xinjiang, China. Elon Musk, who on his Weibo page praises the CCP for their 100 years of glory. And like, I get what he does, right? He goes to the US and he says what they want to hear. He goes to Europe, he goes to China. Like, it's not hard to figure that out.

But understand what's going on here, right? There's the higher level, there's the over here, right? There's the higher level, there's the overworld, and then there's the stuff that we can see down here. It's all a big joke. I want to double check. You guys know Ben Goertzel?

You familiar with him? He's like the preeminent artificial intelligence scientist on Earth. I've heard the name, yeah. I think he's in China. Let me double check this. Andreas told me he lives in China. Why would he be in China?

That's my question. Because he wants to be on the Congress. Well, there's also no kind of regulations, and the government allows private enterprise, which they essentially control in many aspects, to do whatever they want. This is why Dr. Fauci allowed dangerous gain-of-function research to be done in China and not in the United States. That's a great example. Because he couldn't do it in the United States because of all the rules and regulations. At this point, yes.

He could have done it with China if he gave China the source code and the information of what they were working on. At this point, the conspiracy theorists have been right so often. I'm ready to just be like, Alex, you know, just just give me the list and we'll just we'll just. They're not conspiracy theorists. They're spoiler alerts. You got to understand that.

That's the word. I like the meme where it's like 2020 or it's like 2020 conspiracy theorist, 2021 conspiracy analyst. And it's like a picture of the first guy is just wearing regular clothes. The second one is wearing a suit. You saw somebody made a meme already, going back to Ethan Klein of that. They put health expert Ethan Klein conspiracy theorist Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan is all ripped. He's all ripped.

And Ethan is all morbidly obese. Just morbidly obese. He got hooked up to his Oculus. No, this is like this was that he was wearing the oculus he's not but oh he should be if i were if i were making the meme he would because that would just take it to the next level absolutely i mean again this is what they want they want you to say oh who's playing in metaverse tonight who's doing that and then you get distracted by that meanwhile you you're missing the entire like talk about um you know the way they want you worried about the wage gap right between the quote-unquote wage gap between men and women so you're not talking about the wage

gap that luke is talking about between the oligarchs and everybody else right so they they pit you against each other so against left and right male female uh you know ethnic different you know racial stuff that they want to get you all divided on so that you're not looking i got against the up down axis at all it's been that way uh forever for all of human history literally right and this and this big split with like crt happened a big fissure moment was occupied wall street there's that famous cartoon where it's all the people protesting saying we're the 99% and then the rich guys in the room and he says, introduce them to identity politics. I so and we might get into this later, you know, but I told Lydia it was I was going to bring it

up. I said and I have a jump off point. So I'm going with it. We at human events, we found a Tumblr post by 12 Clara, who is a user there, who basically admitted that Glee, the TV show, was the plague ship for wokeness into the American mainstream. What? The TV show Glee. The plague ship. Was the plague ship. This user now, 12 Clara, was one of the leaders of the glee online fandom on tumblr this post she wrote which is basically like an epitaph to all of that is admitted just admitting all of this where do you guys think the word problematic came from where do you guys think that the idea of um the

representation anger you know do we have do we have a character who fits this demographic that demographic do you have a character who's this who's that demographic? Do you have a character who's this, who's that, right? That all comes from Glee and from the original Glee fandom. And then the wars, because people get mad about it, arise from this idea of people becoming not just sympathetic for the characters, but actually empathetic by actually viewing the television character as a mirror image of themselves, where it's not only identity politics from the sense of racial and gender, but identity politics from the idea of I identify with a TV character. And don't get me wrong, I love the work that Chris Rofo and James Lindsay have done tracking this stuff academically,

but people have not tracked the pop culture history of wokeness to explain why it came about. And if you look at the history of glee and occupy wall street that sort of you know middle 2010s milieu people don't realize social media that show hitting social media pre-netflix right all of these things hitting at the same time just launched all of this stuff into this track but i i think social media is the biggest driver of all of it um i i think glee played a role in pop culture but i think it's part uh when did glee come out do you know

what year starts 2009 yeah and then it got big by in 2011 is when it got big the exact beginning but i still think it's social media no it's but that's what i'm saying though it's the combination of social media with these tv shows that are introducing people for the first time. It's not academia. I think. No, and I agree with you on that. Yeah, Peter Bogosian and I have debated this stuff may have originated there in some sense, but these guys on the nobody on Tumblr is, you know, going and reading these academic

papers. No, it's not that it's that when you at universities, there's a bunch of different ideologies. Correct. There's critical race theory used Well, there used to be. There used to be. But this is the one ideology, critical race theory, that comes out and expands. And it's because intersectionality was – social media was a prime vector for stuffing keywords into articles. So you can say trans women of color being – experiencing police brutality is the epitome of Black Lives Matter.

And you fit every single keyword. You get more views. And thus, critical race theory starts becoming more and more prominent. There you go. I don't see this as necessarily being in conjunction with that or in contrast to that. What I'm saying is this is – you've got to read this post, right? It's just amazing what she lays out. Do you on twitter or something this oh we have the whole thing everywhere right um lydia i think i say you're the one where the post millennial did it yeah

post millennial did so our version is like super long and gets into like a ton of different things they went in and did basically a summary where we just post her tumblr post you know when they posted it in 2017 i like how you know millennial posted that no post my post is today oh okay we're and then so what it's called it is i think you just work if you look up glee it'll probably come up i like how you mentioned the psychosis that can come from identifying with the tv character which isn't a real person exactly and this is where which game of thrones character are you which glee character are you exactly these people like so the popularity of those shows plus intersectionality hitting identity politics and social media at the same time,

you put... This was a TV show, by the way, that was getting 30 million people in ratings at one point. Right? This is a massive, massive cultural force. Here's a story from Postmillennial. Entertainment consultant admits Glee sparked the woke movement within the US. Oh, did I mention that, by the way?

The Tumblr user, 12Cara it did an interview with salon where she kind of like quasi outed herself and in terms of real name and said oh by the way my real name is aaron what do you do now i work as a hollywood entertainment consultant wow of course of course they all come from tumblr so were they consulted at the time no no no so when they were on tumblr and involved in the toxic Glee fandom, no. Right there. The Glee fandom is not history. It's blood. I still see it all over this website.

The vague posts. The deactivated URLs. Where do you think the word problematic became popular? Where do you think the representational anger? Glee was the hungry, gaping void that consumed us all. It said, watch us and find yourself. There's something from everyone. And there's characters lesbian, characters gay, characters bisexual, et cetera, et cetera,

et cetera. It goes on and going on and on. And it said, this is your only outlet for body positivity. We are all oppressed by something, but we are different and we are outcast and we are you. Everyone's oppressed so long as you agree with them. Exactly. If you challenge it and say an individual can be strong they say no because i think it's really simple well and telling an individual they're telling an individual they're strong breaks their

collectivism telling an individual they're weak and oppressed means you have to be a part of the collective otherwise you'll be victimized well and this is amazing because it's like the show portrays all the protagonists of the show and we do mention of course the glee curse and we get into that as well a little bit but it portrays all of the main characters as victimized and oppressed and all of this when you've got the uh captain of the football team the captain of the cheerleading squad you know these people they're they're all gorgeous they're great singers they're putting on like somehow they're able to do broadway level productions at like some random high school in ohio and they seem to be quite popular across stage and screen in in universe right in the show and yet they're told that they are victimized and oppressed and then

they wear that as the branch of honor this i'm telling you, that audience that came up watching this show and then the other shows that spun off of it, this was one of the biggest plagueships of wokeness into the mainstream. Plague ship. The plague ship, yes. That's a good way to put it. Yeah, I'm not saying this is like – and people were trying to flame the comments. When I posted on Twitter today, they said, well, you know, this isn't the very first place that we saw political correctness. This isn't, wasn't, I was like, guys, I'm not saying that. I'm saying this was one

of the biggest vectors, but because the later seasons of it sucked and because of the Glee curse, which, and, you know, horrific things. The fact that three of the main characters are now, three of the main actors are now deceased. Whoa, what? Yeah, no, seriously.

So Cory Monteith dies first. He was the original main character of the show. He ODs 2013. Oh, wow. During the show's course. So he ODed, and this was the captain of the football team character who ODs. Then you know what happened to Mark Selling, right? No.

I don't watch Gully. I don't know who these people are. I mean, they're the huge story though. So I think it was while the show was wrapping up, he gets busted for child porn. Whoa. And this was sort of like the bad guy. He was sort of like the foil for the main football player. He was like the tight end or something on the team.

But he was like the bad boy who cheated on the cheerleader with him and everything. And he gets busted for child porn, gets arrested, later hangs himself. Wow. Yeah. And then the other cheerleader, not the captain, but Santana. She drowned. And this is a legitimate tragedy. This is just a real tragedy.

Just last year, she drowned in a lake outside of los angeles while trying to save her four-year-old son their their boat had capsized or something yeah and she's she gets her son back in they find the son later on alone and have no idea where the mother is they find her body you know later on you know and that's that's brutal man yeah but you know just this crazy curse they call it like the glee curse do you think that it was um so but i'm saying my my contention is that and as horrific as all those things are my contention is the fact that glee isn't in the discourse as much anymore is because people talk about it in terms of this curse but they also totally overlook the fact that it was the plague ship that introduced a lot of wokeness to a huge broad swath,

particularly of millennials who are watching this thing. Because remember, we know they weren't working in 2009, right? You know, nobody's got jobs. Everybody's, you know,

maybe going into more debt while they're working on their masters and they're, they're starting to sign up to Twitter. They're starting to sign up to Tumblr. And what are they talking about? They're talking about Glee. And they would have been 10 and 12 years old. Now they're 23.

Do you think that it was intentionally produced that way to do that? Or just more like this is how we, these people happen to feel like victims and they wrote a show about it? So we researched this and then I didn't write the piece, but I did edit it. And one thing that we do track is that when the show was originally written, it was actually kind of like a parody, right? Sort of a parody of like High School Musical. And it was satirical.

It was actually kind of tongue in cheek and it was meant to be self-aware. And it was the fandom that turned it into that. So when the fandom became so incredibly tribal about I demand that my character that I identify with go through these you know aspects or the whole idea of if you know anything about fan culture uh shipping right do you guys know shipping oh man so okay what is shipping so shipping is basically where you like create this mindset where these people that you see in the show are in a relationship so it's not right it's like a fan right or so you want the characters to be in relationship but then in some aspects of some fandoms it gets so bad that you actually start making up these like conspiracies that the actors themselves are also secretly in a relationship they did this by the way

with the star wars movies the disney star wars movies they called themselves ray lows right and dead serious and the ray lows all believed that adam driver and um what's the girl's name daisy daisy ripley um had were in a secret relationship they started harassing adam driver's actual wife in real life because again the parasocial relationship went beyond right so you've got an empathetic media mass psychosis, you know, formation going on where they need, they have an insatiable urge for their false reality, or we might call it a metaverse reality to come in and actually take the form in the real world to the point where the fact that Adam Driver is actually married to someone separate and that

he's a real person who's, you know, I'm sure he's in love with his wife. That's why he married her. That she needs to be removed from the story because that does not satisfy the beliefs of the Raylows. Dude, what are humans? I know, right? The hell are we doing? Yeah, I know, right? And it's amazing and it's wild.

And unfortunately, it's all true. And the fact that people overlook this influence, the toxic influence. And you could look at other shows. Like, so the reason that I'm kind of halfway into this stuff is because I originally started my Twitter account and blog in 2012 to make fun of the Game of Thrones TV show. And so I sort of came up online through that and then eventually got into making fun of politics and here I am. And so, but I remember that the Game of Thrones online fandom was just as bad, but it wasn't as big as Glee was at the time, but it was ridiculous. And I remember like I got kicked out of the DC Game of Thrones book club because I remember saying, I thought it was funny that people were pirating all the episodes. And so HBO wasn't getting any of the money.

And these people lost their minds. They completely lost their minds. I got banned from the Game of Thrones Reddit. I got banned from all these different things. Because I didn't have these types of false empathetic media relationships. Whereas other people were literally, they could not separate themselves from that false reality. And I think, by the way, the most ubiquitous one of these of all, the reason I don't mention it in terms of wokeness is because it's not particularly woke, though, is Harry Potter. And there is a reason that every aging childless millennial will always use Harry Potter as their frame of reference for literally everything.

There was this creepy post on Reddit where this teenage girl was like, my parents named me after a Harry Potter character and my brother after a Star Wars character. They're obsessed with it. We hate it. We hate all of it. We get made fun of.

Millennials, man. How about we do this? How about we go to Super Chats? I'm sorry. If you haven't already. Children of Millennials. I'm sorry. Smash sorry smash that like button subscribe except for my children of course subscribe to the channel smash that like button go to timcast.com become a member and we're gonna have a members only segment coming up for you guys at around 11 or so p.m it's again at

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And I was like, completely intentional. All right, let's see what we got here. Seth Boo says, Tim, I know it's early, but since you have Poso, you asked when the last time a new Christmas song was written. Sabaton wrote

Christmas Truce. Check it out. Christmas Truce is excellent. I love that song. Really? I've never heard it. So Sabaton always, not always, but they do now, they write power metal songs about actual military history and actual

battles. But in Christmas Truce, of course, that's not a battle. That was the armistice that was held on Christmas Day between the French and the German soldiers, and they played a game of soccer across the trenches. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, cool story. Alex Tobias says, hey, Tim, I'm a video game artist. I'm going to be fired soon for not getting the procedure.

I sent an email to Jobs in April, but no reply. Happy to send another one if you'd like. Hi, Post. I'm a big fan. Let me write down your name, because actually, I think we need a video game artist. You can send it to Spin the UFO. I will write down your name. Send an email to spintheufo

at gmail.com, right? Yeah, what's his name? Alex Tamayo. Perfect. I'll look for that. And then, you know, we'll take a look at your samples. And we do need a video game artist. I believe we do. We have a couple projects in the works. And so we could definitely use that assistance.

Dragon Audiobooks says, My name is Marco. I make audiobooks like Founders Keep, an epic fantasy fiction story with dragons, magic, and adventure. Oh, that's very cool. That sounds awesome. All right. Let's see where we are at some people saying um welcome back ian hi everyone waffle sensei you in welcome back you look good bro nice shave we love you thanks dude yeah what were you doing where were you i went to

ohio for about 10 days spent some time with family and friends that was incredible i went out to washington state with a friend of mine i microdosed on some mushrooms and saw the world clearly. It was absolutely wonderful. And I spent a lot of time watching fractal geometric patterns like the 64 Tetrahedron, the flower of life. I highly recommend looking into it. Thanks for asking, Tim. All right.

Ghost Crusader says, Ian is correct. At the end of the Langoliers, they run down the terminal holding hands and jump in the air to a freeze frame. Lock it in! I didn't realize Stephen King did the... The miniseries? No, no, no, no, no. Did the... What do you call it?

The 16 Candles? Who did 16 Candles? John Hughes. John Hughes. Yeah, the John Hughes ending. Oh, yeah. It's really funny. The 80s John Hughes.

Yeah, later John Hughes got away from that stuff. In Ready Player Two, there's a whole John Hughes planet inside the Oasis. You know, I would love to. It's someday in the future. Let's have a psychedelic expert on because my experience with mushrooms, I mean. Graham Hancock. Graham Hancock. Oh, we'll do it.

Yeah. The largest organism in the world is that mycelial net under Earth. It's fascinating creatures. McKenna would also be good. I interviewed him. Oh, Terrence McKenna would also be good. I interviewed him. Oh, Terrence McKenna. Here's a good one. The Grim Truth says, I feel about Ian as I feel about graphene.

I don't know what either does, but I like it. You're a beautiful soul. I love you. I love you. By the way, one thing when I'm talking to other political type people in D.C. about Tim Pool, they're like, yeah, I liked him. I like, but there's this Ian guy. I was like,

I don't, I don't quite get what he is. I'm like, well, exactly. I was talking to Michael and he was like, it took me a minute to figure out what Ian brought to the show, but now I get it.

Yeah. I was like, all right, cool. I also, Ian is the perfect foil for, I left for two weeks. I was like,

let's just give it some time, you know, love. What do they say? Time heals all wounds. Give it some space. Crossland. All right. Scotty says, how do you think the Supreme Court will rule on the stay request for the vaccine mandates this Friday? Well, keep in mind that stay requests don't necessarily mean the final ruling, right? That's just the emergency injunction. And so unless I'm not tracking on something that I think

this is just the emergency injunction. And typically we i'm i'm not tracking on something that i think this is just the emergency injunction and typically we've seen that this supreme court now it depends it's not the entire court that'll rule on it it's just like which panel of judges that you draw so i think it's three um that they have not been ruling on they have not been uh continuing states so they have been allowing the states to be able to be able to run as they see fit and then waiting for a full hearing. All right. Beefy says, Getter just blocked Tommy Robinson's movie trailer

called The Rape of Britain. So they're censoring as well. Thoughts? Keep up the good work. It's usually how it starts is with white, the supremac content. Like, it's okay to be with all that white stuff. Is that what the documentary is about? Isn't he like a documentary is? I don't think that's what Tommy Robinson is.

Isn't he like a white guy? I don't think that's what the documentary is about. I'd have to check that out because I remember that seeing a lot of promotion for that on Getter recently. And so it would surprise me that they, you know, I'd have to look at this. Yeah. Yeah, Tommy Robinson's documentary, I haven't seen the trailer. It's about grooming gangs oh wow yeah yeah i hope it's not the kind of thing where that's been his whole his whole career

basically right when they target a person like i was always of the ilk that if someone violates content you ban that account but if they make a new account and they choose not to violate the content anymore then they're in the clear as opposed to looking at tommy and like wherever he is let's just try and whack a mole to. It doesn't make any, that's not social. You know, it's antisocial. It's political, man. All right. Nate Carpenter says, do you think that these special ops people killed the lady on January

six? Only person dead. And we don't know who killed her. Um, that's not true though. We do know. Yeah. We do know the guy's name now, don't we? I don't want to say it cause you know, I'm not sure.

No, no. I mean, he's been, he's, he was on a 60 minutes minutes i believe he was on abc all right well there you go he's come you know he's come public um lieutenant i can't think of his name i was talking about he's a lieutenant though um the u.s capital police and he's he's come public someone can remind me yeah he's the guy that previously left the fire he left the firearm in a public in a public place and it was the the the interview was horrific by. Like, they had to help him through the interview. And he was basically, I mean, he was saying stuff about, like, I had to do that.

You know, she was going to kill Mike Pence. She was going to do all this stuff that, you know, he couldn't possibly know by looking at her. And that he couldn't possibly know. He could have said a number of things, but the stuff that he was saying in this interview, it made him look horrific. It made him look really bad. We got a super chat from John Paul Diodati.

He says, hey, Tim, I'm also a 3D artist and would love to support the cause. YouTube name is accurate. We also send an email to spintheufo at gmail.com with your name, and we'll get back to you because we could use a 3D artist as well, but probably more for like 3D printing resin and ABS and things like that. But, you know, we'll take a look and we'll see what's going on. Do you guys see Tommy Robinson's car blown up outside Telford Hotel eight hours ago? Yeah, I think we have an article on that.

So do you think he's being targeted because of this documentary he did? Yo, they've been going after this guy relentlessly. I mean, they've been targeting Tommy for years. Yeah, man. In and out of jail and all the rest of it. And it's like – They locked him up for reporting on the case of the grooming guy. It was like they were about to issue a verdict or something.

And he's outside the courtroom like, oh, you're interfering with the trial, so you're under arrest. I remember that video, by the way. He was filming himself and he was talking – I believe it was Facebook. And he was just talking to his phone. They are out for that, dude, man. That's crazy. All right. Omega says, Tim, there is no such thing as establishment left.

Right means establishment, and left means counterestablishment. I cringe every time. That is not true. That is completely wrong. Whoa. Someone's living in the 1950s. Yeah, seriously. No, you are incorrect, sir. With all due respect, I appreciate the yeah seriously um no you are you are incorrect sir uh with all due

respect i appreciate the super chat but you are wrong this is why by the way every remake of footloose will feature a christian pastor right even though even though we know that in the 1980s christian pastors may over some small towns of america have wielded that amount of control the plot of footloose is that they're not allowed to you know have rock dancing and dancing it's forbidden in the town and so they have to go just outside the town limits to hold the the prom and you know kevin bacon's there carvin bergen and um and so the christian right hasn't had that power in the united states for decades right it the the left has been ascendant by and far but it is completely the origin story and ethos of the left to as your comments are just said stated to be we are the counter revolution

we are the counter revolutionaries we are the rebel alliance we are the ones who are fighting against against you when they don't realize they won years ago they won they are the establishment you are the empire but the point is point is... This is your music video. Yeah, well, language is just how we describe concepts and ideas. You're not going to convince... You're not going to be speaking English if you call Hassan, you know, right-wing.

They're going to be like, what? Like, well, he's right-wing because he is establishment, and he supports establishment narratives and big corporations, so he's inherently right-wing. It's nonsensical. Like, when Vosh says Tim Pool's a conservative, anybody who knows anything about conservatives is like, that's literally not true. That makes no sense. Left and right mean many different things. There's the economic scale where left is cooperative systems and right is competitive systems. And then you have the cultural scale

where far right means traditionalism and far left means progressivism. And then there is the revolutionary scale, which is the left were revolutionary and the right were status quo. It means a variety of different things. So there you go. You also have the, you know, libertarians would, would describe it as,

you know, totalitarian versus anarchism, right? Yeah. The up and the down. There's a bunch of different ways. There's so many different ways you could, you could go.

All right. We got another one. We got another semantic statement. Dan says, stop using the word liberal to refer to the Democrats. That word has a root in the Latin word for freedom. And the Democrats are not are not for anything about freedom. We need to take that word back. Crackpot authoritarian liberalists. That's why I can't stand when people say liberalism. So the idea of being able to take words back, I think, doesn't work. I think the way that – but when a new term is placed into the discourse, it actually becomes a jump ball. And the people who can run to that one the fastest are the ones who then claim it. So the perfect addition of this, there's two actually that I can think of recently in the sort of linguistic warfare that's out there.

Number one is fake news. The term fake news was not created by Donald Trump or anyone on the right. It was created by the Washington Post and a sort of milieu of left-wing journalists who were using it to describe people who were posting stuff online like Luke or myself or Tim or basically everyone in this room during the election. They said, you are fake news. Then the right stole that and basically independent stole that and used it on essentially mainstream media for the remainder of history.

And they've been destroyed. The other one is Let's Go Brandon. Yeah. Right. essentially mainstream media for the remainder of history and they've been destroyed the other one is let's go brandon yeah right as silly as it is um this was not something that was created by the right and i think it's so hilarious every time i see people try to say this no it was created by an nbc reporter right all right matthew says hey y'all trying to escape the oregon regime v-a-m-t or t-x wife cannot finish her degree in education without the jab i need a decent paying state for teaching and agriculture irrigation work. Love y'all. P-S-F Fauci.

Yeah, what do you think? Which state? Is that, what is it? Vermont, Montana, or Texas? Well, not Vermont. No, that's not Vermont. Virginia. Sorry.

Yeah, Vermont's the number one most vaccinated state. V-A would be Virginia. Right, Virginia. I wouldn't go to Virginia. Montana, maybe. Montana, Idaho? Yeah, the challenge. state va would be virginia right virginia i wouldn't go to virginia we're montana maybe montana idaho yeah the challenge so when we were looking at places to set up i actually the first place i looked was montana and wyoming yeah the problem is infrastructure and so yes if you get an airport we can fly people wherever it's it's you know if you live in a city you know that's

the plot of yellowstone or it was it was the plot of yellowstone they they go out to build a company in wyoming uh montana montana yeah but what kind of company well it's it's um so it's done from the It was the plot of Yellowstone. They go out to build a company in Wyoming? Montana. Montana. Yeah. What kind of company? Well, it's done from the perspective of a rancher who's fighting against all the people. And the rancher is... I heard it's really good. It was until this last season.

Oh. It just goes off the rails. Totally off the rails. All right. Well, I was going to watch it. And Kevin Costner's the lead. But it's really good until this season. It's actually fairly expensive.

It's not as cheap as people think. West Virginia is, I think West Virginia was better. That's why we chose it. Because there's big plots of land for low cost and infrastructure is right there. Now, we had to get the cable lines installed, the fiber optic, and that was really expensive. Yeah. So they came and actually laid down the line, buried it, and then had to connect it to the house which is we'd hire a second company to do it took like four months or whatever here at this place yeah you mind if i ask and it's and i understand if you can't say but but

did the state offer you anything for that because you we didn't ask them oh yeah but you know i mean they knew you were setting up a shop here setting up a business as i mean we didn't well no one came and talked to us and we didn't talk to anybody right because in in other states by the way they will they will offer in other states they will offer oh right um they will offer you know tax credits but only if you go in cities right because they want to build up the cities right you're out there and we were up to a lot up in alaska and i was talking to a microbrewery about this that was out you know sort of in one of the more touristy areas and they were saying he's like they don't give me anything, man. The state, they'll give me, and the federal government will give me all these subsidies if I go and link in in the grid and make the city bigger.

But if I say, no, I want to run my business out here in a rural area because I love this area and I love serving these people, I'm on my own. I've got to pay full freight. If the governor of West Virginia would work with us to build like an off-grid, on-grid, hybrid setup where we can shut off free domicile into the grid and then put it back onto the grid. We should actually reach out. If you guys listening know anybody who works in West Virginia, we're near Harper's Ferry. So I don't want to give out too much because we're currently doing construction, but we have free domicile. We bought a big plot. It's like 50 acres.

And maybe there is something we can do because one of the reasons i want to uh right now this facility where it is in maryland we're on the border and then i live in west virginia but we want to we're going to set up our main big hub in proud west virginia and tim pool absolutely proud never thought i'd live in that state um but it's opportunity there's there's a ton of opportunity there and i don't i don't think florida i think florida has freedom i think texas has freedom but i don't think they have as much opportunity because they're both very overdeveloped new hampshire is pretty good weather could be an issue and so we ultimately settled on west virginia and even in the panhandle

there's a bunch of opportunities you definitely want to be east coast uh no no we were looking at wyoming and montana okay but infrastructure was a huge problem yeah so i was like in the middle of nowhere extremely expensive internet very little few roads if we did do it uh setting up setting up there we'd have to fly people in and have a guest house for them instead of a hotel or something depending on where we were and then just internet in general is very difficult now with starlink coming i was gonna say starlink would change that yeah but they're delayed. We were supposed to have Starlink already and they're like, we'll get it to you at some point next year.

But now we've got like three different internet lines. Elon's too busy opening up factories in Xinjiang. We got a new building being built, 7,500 square feet, three stories. This is going to be insane. So it's 7,500 square feet total space, but then we're building internal structures

in a portion of it for the new studio. It's going to be amazing. The designs are insane. And we're going to be hiring more people, doing more work, doing more production. And I think that's going to be a huge opportunity for the people who are in New York and West Virginia for work. It will build up the economy. Maybe we should reach out to see. That being said, I have – there's a little beef between me and Tim that I should probably mention before we get done here.

And speaking of building new facilities, because I would have loved to show you the new facilities at Turning Point USA out in Phoenix. Oh, that's right. When we had America Fest with 10,000 screaming patriots who came out. I don't know if you saw any of the videos of that thing. That's where I was for 10 days out in Phoenix. Dude, there's three buildings already right now out there for turning point and they are expanding wow and that's cool so they got like a campus it's it's a campus yeah it's essentially well we're going to do that here

in west virginia and so we should we should compare notes yeah yeah no absolutely so we're going to have a zip line yeah yeah no we are. Inside the building. I meant from here to Turning Point. What I want... What Turning Point should do, because the buildings are actually in pretty close proximity, we should have building-to-building ziplines. You don't have to go downstairs and walk across the parking lot. Perfect. The studio's going to be in the second floor

as its own unique structure and the whole back wall. If you guys that are watching, when you're seeing Jack, it's going to be glass. And you're going to look and you're going to be able to see the whole production facility. So if you guys that are watching, when you're seeing Jack, it's going to be glass. And you're going to look and you're going to be able to see the whole production facility. I want to be like a giant wall of TVs and I'm just on that wall all the time. Outside? Looking down on people?

Just looking down on people. There's a good feeling in the space. We think this might be up and running within six months. How many words permitted are you typing there, Bob? One-way glass so we can see past Jack. people can watch it people can look in and see the show we actually used to have that at at navy intel um we had we like the control room that was above and then you would have a map of the world was behind you and then any any incidents or if something was

going on that would flash up on the world map and you could and then whoever was running it whoever was like the officer of the deck, or if the captain was around, the CO, you could say, hey, zoom in on that, and then that would blow up. It was like, this coming in from New Mexico, and it zooms to the thing, and then it zooms in, and the story comes up as he's explaining.

On the glass. That's exactly right. Well, we're not there yet. I'm just saying. Let's read some more. We got Tom. Tom Bear says, how about cern getting fired up in march at three times power get ready for the reality shift folks it is coming we lost harambe last time let's see what happened we lost harambe we lost baron stain or baron steen it's now baron stain we lost uh you're gonna you're gonna be watching the show and the next day ian's gonna be super ripped and like three feet taller. Right. It's not a joke either. No joke. His hair's going to be short and he's going to be like, y'all.

Carrot top Ian. Carrot top Ian. Full carrot top. That is crazy. Carrot top. Was he always ripped like that? No. No.

That's what's crazy about it. He went through his face. He normally looked like Ian. He was just on Rogan. He said he was in Vegas working and he had everything taken care of, so he just went nuts and started working out three hours a day. Good for him. There you go.

Jacked. That's what some people in prison do that. Yeah. That's what the entertainment in prison do that. Yeah. That's what the entertainment industry is like. Pretty much. All right. Let's grab some super chats. Fish Eye Studios says,

Has anyone noticed Luke enunciates his words very thoroughly, such as against? He hangs on to the st all the way through. Admirable. But I notice he flies through his words in Polish. Love you, Luke. Okay. That's ESL, folks.

That's ESL. Luke, you worked out today. You were saying before the show. We got a kickboxer trainer here, and it was exhausting. So I'm obliterated. I'm tired. I'm exhausted. Wild.

Working on the high kick? A lot of different things. Don't you mean a lot of different things? I'll talk how I want. All right and we're all going west virginia now ian makes the show 10 times better love you dude well there you go there you go that's one magnitude oh i love you on the show michael scott matthews says is giving children harry potter names any less cringe than giving children bible names both works of fiction cringe comment very cringe comment let's see the basis of all of western civilization

versus a book about some kids that go to magic school magic school okay yeah alright where are we at I don't know why this matters but Rex says Jon Snow and

Ygritte are married in real life. That makes me so happy. Are they still married? Oh, are they? I think so. I know they got married. Oh, is that a reference to Peter Dinklage? Because Peter Dinklage said they wanted the pretty white people to...

Did he say that? He said people hated it because they wanted the pretty white people to flee together or something like that. I don't know. Something stupid. I've heard that Peter Dinklage is just a complete jerk in real life. That was a beautiful

love story, those two. Like you could see them falling in love while they were working together, I thought. Every once in a while you see actors,

that happens with a couple of actors. They lose it, man. What's the guy's name? Oh, Kit Harington. Yeah, I don't know anything. I don't know anything. All right.

Kamikaze says, thanks for the great show, Tim Kast and Poso. NASCAR just removed a Let's Go Brandon sponsorship for this year. You guys should contact Brandon Brown and support his team in these trying times. Support Brandon, man. They're canceling over something someone else said. That's pathetic. No, no. It's because the Let's Go Brandon coin was going to come in and then – because he wasn't able to get sponsorships.

Right, that's what I'm saying. And then so they're canceling the sponsorship of Let's Go Brandon. He got canceled because of the meme. So then he's like, okay, I'll take this sponsor. Let's Go Brandon coin. And then they're like, no, you can't do that. Yeah, NASCAR has right of refusal on all sponsorships. So you can't have – they could – for adult stuff or they have their terms and services as well but no that that's clearly

you know clearly politicizing but if this was by the way if this was left wing anything left wing that was coming in you know nascar would let that in a hundred percent blm coin all right exactly strider says i work at kohl's today they announced they will be following osha's ets which ets which requires you to reveal vaccination status and start weekly testing. Supreme Court is hearing arguments against this on the 7th of January. Tyranny. I heard that Starbucks was going to be mandating all of their employees. I heard that, too.

And I was kind of wondering, like, how many employees do you think a Starbucks has? 40? 16? Oh, 40? 40? I don't know. You guys agree? 40? I don't know. You guys agree? 40?

I don't know. What, a million? No, no, no. One Starbucks location. Oh, just one Starbucks? 16, final answer. 16? 30.

30? 30. I was thinking about that. I'm like, I wonder how much they make. And if I can go to the local Starbucks out here and be like, anybody who doesn't want to get the vaccine is going to be fired, I will hire you right now. We need baristas. No, not yet.

I'll just be like, I'll hire you at the same hourly rate and we'll give you a guaranteed 40 hours a week and you can just hold a sign saying Fire from Starbucks. And I'll give you a guaranteed year of work or whatever. There's got to be a way to do that ethically. Give them something to do.

Wait, what's unethical about that? I will pay you to hold up a sign saying I quit this job because of the vaccine mandates and I refused. And then just hold the sign and stand there. And then underneath, watch TimGast.rel. No, I wouldn't do that. Like I wouldn't want it to be about me. I'd be like, here you go, guys.

Guaranteed income. You don't have to do this. You get one year because it really doesn't make sense beyond that. But you'll have a year to figure things out and you'll keep getting paid and you'll got to make coffee. No more customers. All you got to do is say I refuse to work under these conditions we could totally do that tim is trying to start occupy starbucks right now that's what he's trying to do he's coming full circle culture jamming you know what are some clever ways to engage in it's not even non-violent

civil disobedience it's just like protest occupy starbucks like you know i wonder you've got all these people uh you know like joe rogan's got a big show, but he's not expanding his voice beyond his show. Comedy Club. That's the one thing he's doing. You were talking about it on your show earlier. No, that I know. But I mean, like, the conversations he has, the very real newsworthy conversations, comedy show is not going to do that. Comedy show will help for sure.

But that voice he has on the Joe Rogan experience won't expand unless he puts money into it. And he doesn't have to. Is he speaking at this rally that's coming up, the anti-mandate rally? I don't think so. I know McCullough and Malone are speaking and then they mentioned that they have some secret celebrity speakers.

Where is it? It's in D.C. It's coming up at the end of January. What was it called again? Because I remember seeing something about this. I think it's in dc all right it's coming out at the end of january and then what's what was it called again because i remember seeing something about this anti-mandate rally i know but it was called something i forgot people they have to me yeah they're sending it to me too they're gonna be mad that i got it wrong um i remember what it was i think brett weinstein speaking defeat the mandates defeat the mandates defeat the mandates dc there you go and um and i remember when when malone mentioned

it on the podcast rogan you know he kind of had like a non-response response to it and so it got me got me wondering if he was one of the one of the celebrity speakers no idea let's do uh let's do one one that'd be wild that'd actually be wild i was at the juggalo march by the way oh yeah i remember the juggalo march that was awesome they kicked out antifa all right let's see happy little tree says hey gang hey poso got another dichotomy that we can use for this current conflict assassins and templars 2021 and 2020 with 2020 and 2021 were the years we found found out who is who is that a reference to the video game we're like yeah warhammer except everything about the assassin's cre's Creed history is completely backwards, but okay. Yeah, but no, no, no.

Let's be real. The one thing they got right was that the apple in the Bible was actually a reference to a computer that contained a bunch of information, and it was alien technology. Right? Sure, sure. Have you guys played that game? That's the story. No.

That's secret Bible history. We're not supposed to talk about that. All right. We'll talk about that in the subscriber hour, ladies and gentlemen. All right, everybody. I think the apple was judgment, by the way. One more super chat. Ryan asks if we're putting an event center at Freedomistan.

We had no judgment prior to that. We are. One of the goals we're going to have at Freedomistan is that if you are a member of TimCast.com at a certain level, we haven't figured it out yet, that we're going to actually have a, like, you can apply to come and hang out on friday nights and it'll be like 10 tickets per week this is what we wanted to do here and we couldn't but the new space will be able to and you'll be like hanging at the bar and you can see the show while we're doing it you'll hear it and everything and hang out so candace owens does she has like um uh you pay something but then she'll have like a live

audience i mean yeah when i've done her show, I mean it's like Ellen, right? You walk in and everyone's applauding and they have like the little applause sign and it's a big audience too. It's wild. It's electrifying. All right, everybody. It adds something to the show. It really does.

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that wasn't an ad for MyPillow. I was waiting for that MyPillow. I was going to ask you. I was like, where's the MyPillow? Here we go. Yeah, but I'll tell you what, though. A lot of people – by the way, if you got a new MyPillow for Christmas, and a lot of people have new MyPillows now because we just had Christmas, make sure you run it through the dryer once to activate the patented fill. This is something – there's a little card on the inside

that tells everyone to do this, but not everyone does. Cause they're like, Oh, I don't need to read that. I throw it out. Like I was the guy that always read the manual before I played the video game. Um, instead of like, cause I liked the story. I liked cause there was always a little bit of a story in there. Um, run it through there. Cause I get a lot of people saying, Hey man, this pillow, like you said, it's gonna be good good. But run it through dry, even 15 minutes. One cycle is fine. 15 minutes. It just fluffs it up.

Boom. Pops it up like a ballpark Frank. I know a kid from Chicago knows about ballpark Franks. I definitely don't believe in reading the instructions beforehand. And real men don't do that. But anyway, when you're not sleeping and dozing off, you could be traveling, expatting, and also escaping. As I just released my travel, expatting,

and escaping hacking masterclass, 50 never-before-seen videos all available on lukensensor.com. I got a couple classes on there. I'm really proud of the video

that I did today talking about the El Salvadorian government mandates that they just released with a very funny, important video to the general public. So I talked about

that in great detail. I'm very proud of that video. LukeOnSensor.com. Hope to see some of you guys there. Thanks for having me. Follow me at IanCrossland.net. It's really good to be back. Great to see you guys again. I can confirm Kit Harington and Rose Leslie are married with the baby. Congrats. Congrats for them. And I want

to give a shout out to Mike, who I saw at the Red Horse Diner in Ellensburg, Washington. If you're out there, cool that you watch the baby. Congrats. Congrats for them. And I want to give a shout out to Mike, who I saw at the Red Horse Diner in Ellensburg, Washington. Woo! If you're out there, cool that you watched the show. Good to see you, Matt. It's weird, like,

for the first time I'm going out and someone knew who I was outside. That's awesome. It was very casual, very normal. I think this is just the way it's going to be.

Was it someone who was like, oh, you're Ian. I can't stand you on the show, but I know who you are. And man, I was talking about science hard before he approached me too. So you've been listening for a while.

Mike, thanks, man. Good to see you, buddy. And you guys may follow me on Twitter at Sour Patch Lips. Very glad the gang's all back together. I'm looking forward to another great week. We will see you all at TimCast.com, 11 or so p.m. for members only. Sign up and we'll see you all there. Bye, guys.