Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #441 - Kamala Harris Compares Jan 6th To Pearl Harbor And 9/11, We Get SWATTED w/Brandon Tatum

Episode Date: January 7, 2022

Tim, Ian, Luke and Lydia join retired police officer and commentator Brandon Tatum to discuss Kamala Harris' insane comparison of January 6th to Pearl Harbor and 9/11, Dan Crenshaw's response to the World Economic Forum's dubious compliment of listing him on their young leaders to watch list, Politico's observation that the US is in a civil war, and, of most interest, the team and Brandon getting SWATTed in the middle of the livestream recording. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kamala Harris has compared today, January 6th, or I should say the anniversary of the Capitol riots, to Pearl Harbor and September 11th. And, Siraj, where are you at? If we ever needed the list, we need it now. Well, actually, no. She wasn't on her phone when she posted it. She was actually speaking on TV. But the tweets went out from all the news organizations of her saying it.

And if anybody deserves to not be speaking publicly for a little while, it would be her after that statement. You need only think at least some of the many of them, at least the people on the ground, the grassroots of the Democrat voter base, they really believe this stuff. Many of them are just tribalists and they're angry and they want to hate. But a lot of people genuinely believe that January 6th was as bad as 9-11. The funny thing, though, is that Trump's approval versus Biden's approval right now, if there was an election held today, Trump would win, which means more Americans probably don't believe that narrative. Or if the narrative is believed, they prefer insurrection and a military coup over Joe Biden. So how about we just settle for, yeah, no, no one believes it. I mean, some people do, but most people don't.

And you're full of it. This is where we're headed. Politico has actually published an article saying we are in a new civil war. Oh, you got me to say it. Everybody take a drink. Tim Pool said civil war. Here we go. But when mainstream publications have gone from are we in it to we are in it, we should start asking what that means, what that means for us, what it means for you. And is there a way to bring everybody together? I don't know. I really don't. We've got to talk about Australia. In the Northern territories, if you're unvaxxed, you can't leave your home unless you're getting food or medical treatment or providing medical treatment. So it means you can't leave your home for work anymore. It's getting more and more severe. And they have detained the number one tennis player over

highly dubious reasons, saying that his medical exemption, they're rejecting it after letting him come. Now he's in a refugee detention center. This looks like a power flex. So we'll get into all that stuff. Joining us today, Brandon Tatum. How's it going, man? What's up, what's up, what's up? How you doing?

Pretty good. You want to introduce yourself for those that don't know you? Oh, yeah. Brandon Tatum, former police officer. I have a YouTube channel called The Officer Tatum. 1.7 million subscribers on that YouTube channel. Way bigger than us. Y'all are more powerful than me.

I'm trying to get on your level, man. So I go around the country. I speak. I do motivational speaking. I do political commentary. So I do a lot of stuff like that. Right on, man. Thanks for coming.

This will be a blast. My pleasure. Before we begin, I definitely want to shout out Habibi shiraj he's been working extremely hard today it's like it's a super bowl so his twitter account is absolutely on fire today and uh also a couple days ago on this show i had this idea about an alien psyop saying that in 2024 i'm gonna vote for uh bebop uh b-borp what is it? Bebop. Bebop. Yes. So the Bebop 2024 election shirt is coming in and it has just come in.

And it also has the tagline saying, bring on the next alien PSYOP already. And if you want to support Bebop in 2024, you can by going to thebestpoliticalshirts.com and support this future candidate. I love how it actually says Beat Borp on your shirt, and you forgot the name of the alien you made up. It happens sometimes. You're in this creative flow. We have no scripts here.

So yeah, Beat Borp 2024, that's who I'm voting for. Thanks for having me. This should be a great conversation. You need an Alex Jones reference because he went on his show, and he was screaming that an alien intelligence has taken over and is controlling all of this. An AI system probably, which he was referring to, which we also talked about, which he could not be wrong here. That's also another issue. Yeah, blockchain decentralized mind.

This is something that Ian gets into a lot too, especially when it comes to quantum physics and energy and entities. Go on, Ian. Take it from here. For sure, there's a concerted effort to put people's collective mind state on a blockchain and create like a mega mind that's going to be... I think tracked is the idea, but maybe we could build one that's untracked and use that as like the good guy's

tech. Hey, I did a little bit of research. 2,400 people died at Pearl Harbor when the Japanese Empire bombed it. Almost 3,000 people died on 9-11 when the three buildings came down and how many people died on a year ago on january 6th well we got well yes but i think a couple of them were one was like someone fell one person had a heart attack how many bombs were dropped a year ago and

one and one trump supporter was killed by a police officer so someone made a meme where it was like you know wikipedia they'll do a war and it'll say like outcome, like factions, casualties. And they made one for January 6th where it was like unarmed Trump supporters with flags,

casualties, one Trump side. Like there was no one, no one lost their lives. They should do like a Baz Battles where they do those animated battle scenes of it where it shows like

the people coming up and the flanking and all that. It's all, nothing happened. It's all over. That's all, nothing happened. That's good. We'll need you to bring up those numbers again when we get into it. We also got Lydia hanging out. I'm here in the corner pushing buttons, as I do.

I'm delighted to be back. Love having Brandon on. It's going to be a great conversation. Before we get started, everybody, head over to TimCast.com. Become a member and help support our work. As a member, you are funding our team of journalists. I think we might have around 10. I'm not entirely sure of journalists. We have, I think we might have around 10. I'm not entirely sure, but we do have, I think, 32 employees now. We're doing a ton of stuff.

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And YouTube kind of sucks for the insane rules they have. And if we want to have those real conversations, we got to figure out other means of distribution. So that's what we're doing. You can check that out at TimCast.com. Don't forget to smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. Let's talk about what's going on today. We have this story from TimCast.com. Kamala Harris compares January 6th Capitol riot to September 11th and Pearl Harbor. Quote, certain dates echo throughout history, Harris said, including dates that instantly remind all who have lived them where they were and what they were doing when our democracy

came under assault. Dates that occupy not only a place in our calendar, but a place in our collective memory. December 7th, 1941, September 11th, 2001, and January 6th, 2021. Wow. She is the dumbest person on planet Earth. This is what happens when you sleep your way to the top and you don't have merit behind your name or you don't have a legitimate reputation.

There's nobody on planet Earth with any sense that would compare january 6th to pearl harbor or 9-11 i mean because you know we're in a generation that we lived through 9-11 and and it was mortifying man people were getting killed jumping out of buildings it was literally an attack on our building seven then just fell down what was it what was it like 10 hours later right it was it? Like 10 hours later. It was – let me just tell you. But it did.

I'm not saying anything about why it did. I'm just saying 9-11 was so crazy. I thought about this. When she said this, I was like – I'm sitting there. I know everyone is laughing. Everyone is mocking her, saying it was a stupid thing to say. And then I actually just was thinking back to like what happened on 9-11 and I'm like four planes are hijacked. One of them crashes into field.

Let's roll. You know, they slam into these buildings. There's shrapnel and debris flying everywhere. The buildings collapse. The Pentagon gets hit. First responders rush in there, and firefighters are dying. The EPA was right. It said the air was safe.

Yep, they said it was safe to breathe. Go back to work. There's no problems down here. Now people have, what do they call it? They call it 9-11 lung or something like that? Well, they have it was safe to breathe, go back to work, there's no problems down here. And then now people have, what do they call it? They call it 9-11 lung or something like that? Well, they have mesphilioma, they have, there's a bunch of asbestos. There's a word they associate with the people who are down there doing the rescue missions had for decades lung problems from the air they were in. I was there, dude.

I was there in the early days when they didn't have the guidelines. Anyone could walk in there and breathe it. But not only did these buildings then collapse, but 9-11 was so bad that I think it was around, what, 10 hours later, another building, World Trade Center 7, just falls straight down. That's how crazy. Three buildings fell that day. And Kamala Harris is like, they broke windows and waved American flags. And those three buildings all had insurance policies on them by Larry Silverstein, but that's another subject. I blame Mayor Willie Brown for all of this for a number of reasons, but also he's connected to 9-11, which I wanted to quickly talk about since he was also officially warned.

He had a flight on 9-11, but he said someone gave him a warning, and he canceled his flight on the morning of 9-11. He said that. Yep. Mayor Willie Brown. look that up. The mayor of San Francisco, I think it was the San Francisco Chronicle that reported on this, but he had a flight on that day, didn't take it, and he's also the one that helped Kamala Harris get her start in politics. Willie Brown.

Well, look at this. This is from the San Francisco Gate. Willie Brown got low-key early warning about air travel. This is from September 12, 2001. This is NewsGuard certified. Exactly. Look at this. I don't make up facts, Tim.

I got my sources. I got my documents. I got all my papers and my notes right here. I don't play around. A couple weeks ago, Luke is doing one of his signature rants, and he mentions Bill Gates with his birth control microchips. And then I'm just like, Luke, Luke, no, no, stop, stop. And Luke's like, it's real. Look, I Google it right here, and Bill Gates funded birth control microchips. And then I'm just like, Luke, Luke, no, no, stop, stop. And Luke's like, it's real.

Look, I Google it right here, and Bill Gates funded birth control microchips. It's a real thing. This is the new Alex Jones right here. I don't know about that. There's a lot of stuff I have to stop myself from saying. All right, well, hold on, hold on. I want to bring this up. SFGate has got a 100 out of 100 on NewsGuard,

and they reported September 12, 2001, Willie Brown got a low-key early warning about air travel. Quote, it was not an abnormal call. I'm always concerned if my flight is going to be on time, and they always alert me when I ought to be careful. Exactly where the call came from is a bit of a mystery. The mayor would say only that it came from my security people at the airport. It's interesting. I wonder.

Telling them not to fly on 9-11. That's a big deal right there. That's the person also connected to Kamala Harris. But I've heard recently to Kamala Harris. But I've heard recently that Kamala Harris and Mayor Willie Brown are not on talking. What's the phrase here? Speaking terms. They're not on speaking terms.

But obviously Kamala Harris has risen to power and she's using it to spread fear and to divide and conquer this nation in so many disingenuous ways. It's absolutely horrifying to see this kind of comparison made to some of the most tragic life loss that happened domestically in the United States. It's disgusting. I want to do the opposite of what the Democrat establishment and the media do. And actually, Lydia messaged me saying Freedom Day. And I was like, it's a good idea. So here's what I tweeted. Never forget, January 6th, also known as Freedom Day. Yes. And I was like, it's a good idea. So here's what I tweeted. Never forget, January 6, also known as Freedom Day, will forever be the day we remember

the 100-day siege on the US. From the White House to federal courthouses to small-town America, dozens lost their lives to the Democrat-supported carnage. This was the George Floyd riots. The White House was besieged. They set a guard building on fire. They set the church on fire. It was one of the most intense assaults on the White House was besieged. They set a guard building on fire. They set the church on fire.

It was one of the most intense assaults on the White House we've seen since 1812. Yossi Gestetner with a tweet. He says way worse than what happened on January 6th. We had small town America ransacked, buildings smashed up. We need to talk about that. We need to talk about they were not only in D.C. over the summer. They were all over the country. So one of the issues I have with the culture war

is that the right component, whatever you want to call it, just follows the lead in the news cycle of the New York Times and CNN. Quick side note here. Today is also the National Bean Day, according to Google. But also Kamala Harris, when those larger protests were going on, she was bailing people out that were committing crimes against innocent civilians.

There were dozens of people that were killed during these riots, and we can't talk about it. Sorry, I'm talking too much. No, I agree with you 1,000%. This is out of control that we're in this position in our country where we just completely avoid the fact that people were burning down buildings and killing people and terrorizing it is the it is this the definition of domestic terrorism is what blm people that represent blm or claim to represent blm were doing throughout the entire summer over nothing at least at least i could

say people that may have an argument on january 6th they have a certain argument that they have about the election they thought that they were going to stop a faulty election for going through that's not i'm not saying i take that position necessarily but that's what they were attempting to do blm a black man gets shot justifiably by police. Breonna Taylor was never, she wasn't sleeping in the bed. They completely create these entire lives and burn down communities. Hundreds of thousands, millions of dollars worth of damage. People were dying, getting hurt, afraid. I think it was over $2 billion.

Yeah, around the country. It could probably easily have been over $2 billion. And none of these things get replaced. People can't, I mean, the livelihood did not come back. Some people have been killed. Their lives are not going to be replaced. And people are arguing about individuals who went into the Capitol building. Some of them were let in.

Some of them were taking selfies. I just saw a video that was posted. I think I shared it on one of my social media platforms of the guy that had the horns or whatever. He's going in there. It's like three dudes in there. The police is hey is everybody okay they're just chilling you know you talk about pearl harbor you must be smoking crack to think that that is comparable what a what a what a disrespect to the men and women who serve this country the men and women who were fighting on september 11th that they have had residual effects that have happened. People have died, skin blown off.

I mean, the images that we saw, people jumping out of buildings and hitting the ground from 100 stories high. And you're talking about the Capitol building that didn't last long enough that they finished the vote the same day. Yeah, it took like three hours for this whole thing to go through.

And then they were fixing the whole thing. They went through and they got done with the election and they finalized it and everything. And I was posting those images from Kamala Harris supporting the Minneapolis Freedom Fund and talking about how they set free this guy who had committed egregious acts against a child. And all these sources that had gone through and fact-checked it

and they couldn't even say it was false. They were like, well, this needs context. Well, this isn't the full story. But yeah, no, her Freedom Fund set a bunch of people, a bunch of criminals free. Like child predators. Like one guy apparently was reportedly a child predator. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That guy, yeah.

But Republicans are so weak, though. Ted Cruz is a weenie. All these people are so soft, man. I mean, how can you go home and kiss your wife and act like you're the man of the house when you're such a weenie, man? He may as well have resigned when he said that was a terrorist attack. Yeah, I mean, who's he going to win? He's an establishment brown noser, and he always was an establishment brown noser from the very beginning. And he's trying to placate the middle allegedly this is the kind of the i i you know

we actually talked to someone who was around his circles uh recently and and when he was responding to this he's trying to show the republicans that he's going to be the opposite of trump he's going to be the moderate uh considered considerate republican and but it's absolutely ridiculous because of just how brown and gooey and nasty his nose is with all the butt kissing he's doing to the establishment it's it's what world what world is he living in i don't know people love trump i mean i i was just last night there was this rapper named kevin gates he's a gangster rapper well-known dude in the rap industry i just so happened because i follow him i just so happen to see him on live and he's

talking about trump and saying oh trump was cold i mean we need trump back in office i mean and there was a bunch of other dudes on there from the hood from the community with mad respect and they all agreed that trump was the one of the best things that ever happened to our country at least during their lifetime you gotta be crazy to think that somehow they're gonna leave donald trump who was the answer to the prayers of many people of having a person in office that's not a politician somebody who's an outsider, somebody who's gonna stand up

for America, you think you're gonna you're gonna somehow swindle your way into that I got it, he's trying to get that job on The View he'd be great for it The View can't find a female conservative because they've stated they want someone who's popular among the right but who doesn't believe Trump won the election. And you basically can't get it.

I think it's 71 percent in the latest poll of Republicans believe Trump won. And so they want someone. So why would. So Ted Cruz comes out and he calls it a terror attack. It's not it's not even necessarily about Trump. If you're someone who pays attention to the news, like you actually read and investigate, you know it wasn't a terror attack. It was in one area, the tunnel, a riot. And on the sides, people walked in confused. The maga memas, they call them, just bumbling around.

That Norm MacDonald tweet, the violent insurrectionists respected the velvet ropes. Just walking in like idiots. They had no idea what was going on. So when you see that, you're like, yeah, that was not terror. And you see on Reddit, they have that photo of that officer, the Capitol officer, who baited them and led them away. And I'm like, these guys were – those guys – like it wasn't one group of people who planned to do anything. And the FBI has even said that so to come out and for ted cruz to say terrorist attack he's trying to convince democrats yeah who hate him to vote for

him that's the crazy thing that's what that's what i'm wondering like what is his angle what who's telling him to do this it's the dumbest thing in the world democrats hate you you're racist uh sexist homoph, whatever they can name you. That's what you are to Democrats and people on the left. And then everybody else, well, I say everybody else. There's a small group of people in the middle, but the people in the middle aren't stupid enough to watch you go out and project theater as a politician and think that you're genuine. People can see through Ted Cruz. I don't think there's a center anymore.

I mean, there technically is. I think this show is fairly moderate. Some people have described it as like centrists, right-leaning a little bit, and maybe it's because of the other influences of the people on the show. But we're not the hardcore MAGA hat-wearing. We're not conservative ink suit-wearing

like TPU is saying or anything like that. We're an eclectic bunch. I don't even know what Ian is. It's in motion. It's not static, whether it's on the right or on the left. We're constantly swirling around the center and getting a little bit from both sides. Maybe that's you in your conscious space. I don't like any of these politicians.

I think they're all sellouts. I think they're all working for the special interests, and I think they'll take any opportunity they can to skin you alive. Do you think Trump is a part of it absolutely a hundred percent especially with his endorsement of big pharma especially with him sitting down with henry kissinger during the start of his presidency as soon as i seen that i said okay that's game over as soon as he's congratulating and saying how great he is that's that that had everyone's eyebrows up when he was talking about auditing the federal reserve investigating 9-11 releasing the the JFK CIA files, he did none of that.

I agree. Trump? I think this is more Trump got into the office and they pulled him away. Trump is undoubtedly an outsider. And so there were things I think he was trying to get done. I do not believe he's part of the swamp. I think he's his own kind of different. Swamp monster.

That's how I see it myself. He got in. I've been watching. Oliver Stone just released a Kennedy documentary about the assassination. I was just watching another one last week. I think he got in and realized, okay, there's really a moving organism here that if I disrupt too much, it will reject me as part of the system. Like if you put a little piece of metal under your skin. I wonder, man.

I don't think he's a part of some cabal or something crazy like that. I really do think that he did the best he could with what he had, but I do think he's, he's in a position where, you know, people expect him to be perfect and he's not perfect, you know, and this,

I'm gonna call him out when it's time to call him out. But I do think because of his history and what he's lived through, even a generational gap between us and him, is that some of these things he actually believe are true and necessary. Like when he came out on Cannon's Own show and he said the dumbest thing I ever heard in my life, I think he actually mean that.

The guys that I smoke with in the cigar lounge that are his age or around his age, they all see the world the same way that he does. I think Trump was an avatar of the anger of the American working class populace who are sick of the system. And as Michael Moore put it, Trump was that human Molotov cocktail. But Trump was imperfect. He's the imperfect avatar. He wasn't. He was just that embodiment of anger for a lot of people he did things they liked you're never going to get someone perfect i guess he over

promised and he compromised a lot but he did try to at least enter some kind of conversations into the dialogue that did make him look like a bull in a china shop and he did have the corporate media scared he did have the establishment scared somewhat But I think he also was trying to be liked by them at the same time, and his ego got in the way. And from my perspective, there was a lot of possibilities there, and I think he failed on a lot of those possibilities. But again, I don't want to be one of those crazy leftist lunatics that has Trump derangement syndromes. When he did something good, I always complimented him and gave him respect and props for standing up for certain issues and making the debates and arguments that everyone was afraid to make so so you know let's be honest anyone who's in power deserves to be criticized no matter what

and we shouldn't always worship celebrities because when you when we do bad things happen well i i agree and the reason i brought up like the kind of the whatever space this show occupies is that if if we are you know if luke is on this show and looks like we got to criticize all of these people we're certainly not the ardent trump can do no wrong crowd and if we look at what ted cruz said like he's a lunatic then i don't know who he's going after because you know i've seen these tweets where they're like where's the middle ground between the the january 6th was an insurrection and january 6th was no big deal.

And it's like we talk about it all the time and so do most of our guests. Like the riot was bad. These people who were engaging in violence should be prosecuted. And, you know, we don't want something like that to happen. But it certainly wasn't an insurrection. Of course there's middle ground. Ted Cruz is not occupying that. So pandering to Democrats who hate you and souring yourself on even moderates who think it's a stupid thing to say, I think he's basically just – he may as well have just resigned and said, I'm done.

I'm not going to run again. Maybe that's the plan to flip Texas Democrat in the Senate or something. I have no idea. I don't know. I mean maybe it's arrogance. Maybe he's just out of touch. These people are corny individuals. Like when you meet them in person, you're like, dude, you still got a politician hat on dude we just sitting here talking why are you you know using certain

words and acting like you're in in campaign mode some of these people are not real individuals i don't even know if they they if they go home or they still wearing a suit and trying to uh campaign to their wife or something or whatever to their kids i don't know if they're real people campaigning to get laid to their right right i, right. I'm going to tell you why tonight is going to be the best five minutes of your life. Five minutes? That's right. I won't overpromise. Yeah, no, they are, man.

And I tell you, we've reached out to a lot of politicians and we've been reached out to by a lot of politicians I've reached out. And I feel like even the people watch, you can tell. You can tell when there's a Brandon Tatum sitting down having a real conversation and when there's a politician getting ready for something. Yeah. I think politicians and people always say you should be a politician. I don't like it, man. It's too grimy, too dirty, and I'm too real.

Maybe one day I may have to. But I will never be a guy that's going to sit up here and read talking points. And this is what I should say because the people think I'm just me. If you don't want to vote for me, don't vote for me. I don't know why people feel like they got to put on a character. It's like, it's like online dating,

right? People put a facade out there and they want to present themselves as being a certain way. And then you meet him in person. You're like, Oh, you're not really who you said you was. You built the facade.

You only put out the things that are positive about you. People should just be real. There should be a rating score on online dating apps when people give you reviews of five stars. That's necessary. That's awesome. Sorry. Go ahead. I guess you get into a long-term dating situation.

It just would be irrelevant, I guess. I found the one. It's over, and you close the account. But no one does. They keep their accounts open. So I want to talk about this next segment, but I do want to give you guys give you guys an update. So last night we had Marjorie Taylor Greene on the show. She was absolutely fantastic. And one of the things that came up was Dan Crenshaw being listed by the World Economic Buttigieg was a different year. So I actually reached out to Dan Crenshaw, and I'll give you the gist of his statement paraphrase. Basically, his understanding, or I should say my takeaway from what he said, is that this is an editorial list that they have

nothing to do with. So I asked him, is this like Forbes 30 under 30? The World Economic Forum just decides these are people we think you should watch. And he was like, yes, there was no communication involved. They just put me on some list. And now he was like, yes, there was no communication involved. They just put me on some list. And now he's like, people see that and they think I'm associated in some way. I think it's important that people hear his response because we did pull that up. And I even said I don't know what this young global leaders thing is. And if it turns out that the Davos group just makes a list of people they're interested in, whether you realize it or not.

I don't want to smear the guy over something someone else does. And I agree with you, but why would they pick him? Right? Yeah. And they're not going to pick Trump. You know what I mean? They're not going to pick Marjorie Greene. They're not going to pick certain people.

So why did they pick you? And I'm telling you what, man, my wife cannot stand him. And she just thinks that he is a part of the establishment. I remember, and I can't verify that unequivocally. I remember when he first came out and I said, yeah, I like this dude. Military guy. He's bad to the bone. You're missing the eye.

This is the dude. And then he started. It's like they get in office and they start getting softer and softer and softer. And before you know it, they're acquiescing in this way. They're trying to be cool with these people in the're in the middle they're not like marjorie green like i'm not expecting everybody to be radical but i'm expecting you to go in there and tear stuff up i'm expecting you to go in there and stand your ground and stand on the principles that people are asking you to stand on you got elected because you had these campaign videos of you being an outsider coming in and serving

your community and because you were you were in you know in the military but then you get in there and you just shrink down and you just like to everybody else and and i and it's easy for me to talk because i'm not in politics but like is that what happens to you when you get in the politics the ones that want marjorie taylor green yeah she's not well you know but how long is amazing and i and i love i met her before she ever was in politics and i remember we were at some conference and she was like, I'm going to run for office. And I remember she was such a cool person in the fitness. But how long is she going to last? I don't know.

She does shows like this for a long time. I'll tell you. I hope so. I hope she – The big thing for me was – It's all about the media. She said cookie things on Facebook back in the day. She apologized for those things.

I don't know if I agree with her on all of her policy positions. But when she said she went down to Congress and forced roll call votes to make all the members actually come down and have to vote on these bills, I was just like that deserves a standing ovation. Absolutely. Making these people do their jobs. And I got messages from people where they were like as soon as as I heard that, I was like, I'll vote for her. Because like all of her policy positions aside, if she's going there and telling all these members of Congress, get down here, vote and do your jobs. I'll take it. And show the constituents what you're voting for, because otherwise that would be hidden from them.

So holding them account to the point where even Republicans are mad at her and Democrats are mad at her because they can't just pass through all these bills really fast. I think that's great. I think the more we have stagnation in government, the better government we have. That's my own personal perspective. That's how I see it because when they're arguing and fighting amongst each other, they're not trying to put government on someone else, and they've been putting a lot of government on a lot of people, and she's stopping it somewhat. But I think she's a great example for all americans

that if you feel the call to serve you don't have to be some politician you don't have to have some legacy of political a political background and that's true for aoc as well i want to be i want to do this because i feel like i want to make a difference and if you pursue it because i remember her saying she was going to do it before she ever did it, and she pursued it and she won. And I think you're correct about AOC. Even though I think she's dumber than a bag of rocks. Well, that's not fair.

Hold on. That's not fair to the bag of rocks. Let me not disrespect rocks like that. Ian's anger is right now. You're triggered anger. He has a lot of rocks in front of him. Ancient rocks. I'm not going to disrespect them like that. So let me not be superfluous. that you know god ian's anger right now you triggered anger i love you ancient rocks i'm not gonna disrespect them like that so let me not be superfluous i think that her arguments are poor i think that she believes what she's saying though and that's why she's been so successful

i i honestly believe that her c yeah aoc i disagree man you don't think she but i think she's dumb enough to believe every time they come out and they say, like, hey, AOC, I'm criticizing you for this thing you did. She goes, you just want to date me. I think she's dumb enough to believe that. She thinks people want to sleep with her. You know what I'm saying? Look, look, look. I don't like,

you know, we make fun of her for being dumb and all that stuff. I'm actually not a fan of doing that. I don't like her. I do think she is lacking in ability. I think she's a master of marketing. She's a fan of doing that i don't like her i i do think she is lacking in in ability i think she's a master of marketing she's a master of of media manipulation but uh i i you know i don't know i want to i want to make sure that we when we when we present criticisms it's substantive you know what i mean and i agree i agree greasy yeah sometimes we you know sometimes i go over the top and i may say certain words because that's how I really feel.

But in actuality, you have to say, look at the critique of what she's doing. She literally came on television and bashed people for not wearing masks. She bashed him. She's been bashing DeSantis and she's literally in his state drinking and having a good time, hugging people, kissing and partying. That's only what we saw on camera. She was probably living her best life, but she get on TV and she make these claims. She talks about climate change. Oh, we're going to all die in 13 years or something. It's irreversible.

But I guarantee you she got on a jet, a plane and flew to miami rented a car probably and is driving around living her best life these people they're either dumb or they're evil that's one of the two and i think it's evil dude it could be both look and i'm not trying to be superfluous in the in the in my description of her i just really do think that these people are evil or they are completely out of their mind? Definitely ignorant. Because if they think climate change is not going to be stopped, they're ignorant. Because it can be.

We can withdraw the carbon from the atmosphere. It's got to be evil. And I'll tell you why. Didn't Obama buy beachfront property? Of course he did. The banks are giving him loans 24 hours a day. So did Bill Gates. So these people that come out and claim all this stuff, climate change and whatever, they do the opposite.

When I see Marjorie Taylor Greene refusing to wear a mask and she's got – I think she was saying like 90,000 fines or something accrued from all the stupid BS. She's going down to the house and Nancy Pelosi is like, everybody got to wear a mask and she's not going to do it. That's consistent with what she said. She's doing what she says. Right. When AOC says Texas is effectively going to be killing people by ending the mask mandates and then she chooses not to's doing what she says. Right. When AOC says Texas is, you know, effectively going to killing people by ending the mask mandates. And then she chooses not to wear a mask in Florida, but criticizes DeSantis.

You can see how she really feels when no one tells her she has to, she won't. So it's not about wearing the masks. It's about the government mandating people do it. Yeah. So it's like, well, I think it's evil too,

because it's like, you know, the position in the facts, but you present something different to the people because you want to toe the line, because you want to get reelected. Why would you do people like that when you don't practice what you preach? Let's put it this way. No matter which direction you go, it's evil. Here's why. if she thinks masks really will save lives and then you have to have them then she goes to part and parties without one thinking she'll be killing people by doing that that's kind of evil that sounds evil yeah willfully putting people at risk at least based on that belief that masks are

important or she's claiming masks are important and doesn't actually believe it and is just lying to tow some tribal line also evil dude it's a career move right these people this is what i'm learning about politics these people want to stay in office as long as they can because when you're in office it's not just your little salary you get 170,000 dollars you get in the house representatives every two years whatever i mean you know you got a 1.4 million dollar budget right so per year i think it is but you know how many butts they kissing and how many people they doing deals with behind the scenes you stay in there long enough you're going to be you're going to be set for the rest of your life and i often wonder is

this what they're really doing it for is she doing this to secure the bag for the rest of her life pointing out lies that she know aren't true but she have to push those to get re-elected because she really don't care i mean she don't care about other people she it didn't appear that she know aren't true, but she have to push those to get reelected because she really don't care. I mean, she don't care about other people. She it didn't appear that she does. I don't know. Crazy data like this CNN analyst saying that masks are facial calling them facial decorations on TV.

Like this is Leanna. When said this two weeks ago, like so how confusing on CNN. So how confusing for someone to be like, you're supposed to wear a mask, but then the CNN guidance comes out or the analyst and says they don't function properly. This is the issue. It's almost like people bring up Yuri Bezmenov all the time. Just confuse and demoralize the population. Keep them in a constant state of chaos so they can't figure out what's going on and what they're supposed to do.

And the politicians are also in that state. So we'll go back to how she ended up being brought up. We're talking about, you know, first it was Dan Crenshaw. You know, he's arguing with Marjorie Taylor Greene. You know, we had MTG on and I think the member segment we did with her, it was getting legit. And I'm like, man, I really want to have like a longer form off YouTube so we can just go deep dive on a bunch of topics. Because when we do the YouTube show, it's very topical. It's very direct topical. We mostly talked about her and censorship and Congress and what was going on in Congress.

And then we started getting to the nitty gritty of just like the things she's talked about in the past, how she feels, how she feels about vaccine mandates. And it was raw and it was real. And then I was just like, man, she was swearing. And I'm like, it did not feel like the other politicians we've had on the show who are worried about offending one side or the other and trying to get votes. It felt like she was just like, I'm here and I'm going to tell you what I think. And I was like, man, that's what people like about Trump. That's what people like about MTG. You know, we're so sick of the inauthentic, fake BS in politics. We will take something that seems genuine. And unfortunately

for the populist left, the people they brought on, they're all disingenuous. Well, let's be honest. AOC talks a big game. But when Pelosi says step in line, she steps in line and votes like Pelosi wants her to vote. But she also mastered social media. And she also mastered the way of engaging with people and exploiting that to its fullest extent.

And there are algorithms that, of course, are pushing her messaging out to millions and millions of people in an unrestricted way, which, of course, is something that the other side does not have. So when you have direct lines through the algorithm to the youth, you're able to influence them, especially when you set up a gaming channel. I mean, this person, I don't think she's dumb. I think she's very smart. I think she's very, very calculated. It might have been a mistake that she got caught without wearing a mask in Florida. Ron DeSantis said that this is, quote, a ruling class mentality, and I think that has more kind of perspective to it. But look what she did with January 6th. Look how she involved herself in that event when she lied about being at the capitol no no so you know i i when this story came out aoc claimed that she thought the writers had made it to her her office she made that up the timeline made no sense i saw ben shapiro tweeting it and i tweeted i'm like yo it's not it's not that she's you know making up the fear it's that the whole story is fabricated i couldn't

believe how many people on the right didn't catch this. When the cop knocks on her door and AOC is like, so then I'm like, I hide in the bathroom and I'm thinking like they found me or whatever. And then I hear, where is she? And it's the most exaggerated insanity ever.

And then she's thinking she was going to die or whatever she said. When I saw that story, I was like, wait, you know, I actually argued with the Huffington Post guy through direct messages because I said, you know, when she came out in the hallway, there were

already a bunch of people there being evacuated. So where was she? She wasn't in the Capitol. She was in her building. Then people said, yeah, but the Capitol does connect through tunnels to that building. And then I was like, why, when did the rioters make it through the tunnels? They didn't, did they think they were going to, why did they think that? And then I actually went through the timeline of when she said it was this time. It was like 1 o'clock when she was getting her food. She had a knock on the door. And I went at 1 o'clock.

Not a single rioter had even made it to the building yet. It was it was there just breached the first barricade. No one knew what had happened. And the police it was that famous video where the cops fanning people in there. It wasn't until I think an hour later that the riders actually breached the building an hour later you think she's being honest but had her timeline wrong no that makes no sense how is she being honest she so so that would mean that if she was being honest she was in her office the cop knocked on her door and then she had a psychic premonition of people

raiding the capital went they're gonna raid the capital they might be here now. Right. She was messing up. It's all bull crap. No one knew that was going to happen. She lied, made the whole thing up. And I've been to the Capitol building. I've been to the halls of Congress. It's difficult to figure that building out. To go through the tunnel is very difficult. Of course, we had to get escorted and they showed us how to get down there. And if you were down there for the first time, you don't know where it you don't know where to go where door to go out to is is it's a

big uh hallway in the middle where they got trains and stuff going through there and so it's like come on man i mean she she is a liar it's the same thing people the left does this well and the reason is age, youth. She is in the era of social media. Republicans don't have a lot of young people involved. And therefore, they are not capturing the social media frenzy and they're not getting the reach that AOC is getting. If you notice, it's the older people that don't even use Facebook. I mean, some of the Republicans probably don't even know how to use social media at this point.

They're not good at it. That's why we, or I say we, I'm a Republican, that's why we should get younger people involved like Marjorie. I think it's Marjorie. Marjorie. Marjorie. Marjorie Taylor Greene. Marjorie. I keep saying that. She's not younger. I'm just her husband. I don't want to call her old.

She's a mom. She's about my age. She's younger. Right. She's younger in the 30-40 range. She's not 60, 50, 60. She's a mom. She's about my age. She's younger. 47? Right. She's younger in the 30, 40 range. She's not 60, 50, 60. She's health 70. So she's got a young mind. I hear what you're saying, but it is kind of scary that they're so old that she's the young one. Right.

I mean, how is she going to beat you up next time she sees you? No, no, no. I'll just mess with you. No, we got to be real. I was like, I don't want to call her old or anything like that because she's only 47. But it's kind of crazy that we need millennials. Because we don't have term limits. We need term limits because otherwise we're going to get all these 80-year-olds.

It's not cool, though. Politics are not cool. You can run for office when you're 75 for the first time. I feel like Trump made it a little more cool, a little more dynamic. You don't have to be a politician to be in office. But it's not sexy to be a politician. But people need to make it that way and i feel like i feel like aoc for the left she made it cool the kennedy assassination made it not cool for me like i can't get in there and speak my mind because i'm afraid that they're all watching me and they know where i sleep like

that's i'm not comfortable with that if a president gets in there they really want to change the system they're going to need to duck out of the country for a while because the cia is not going to like it this system is like in place for a reason yes it's scary i don't know politics can twist it open i don't but when you're young i mean most people that probably should be in politics don't desire to be in politics right and the people that do desire to be in politics are people probably who are power hungry and narcissistic and that's how they end up getting in paradox and they get power and then they love it. Sociopaths. Yeah. And so it's unfortunate. But I don't know how to fix it. But younger people need to feel more confident that, look, this is our country.

Yeah, you're right. And we need to take it over through being in politics. It's like it needs a bunch of things to have to happen at once. We need young, new, intelligent politicians. We need new pieces of technology and new shows that are being developed that are invigorating the entire process. But it has to happen all at once. it can't be one or the other right i'm just not the person that can get into politics because of my mind state let's be dangerous for me let's just uh jump off the the metaphorical cliff with this next article from politico they write we are in a new civil war

about what exactly grievous conflicts have been about big things, war, slavery, depression, but this time we just don't like each other. Spoken like a true establishment Democrat personality who doesn't know anything about the right or moderates or libertarians or post-liberals. This article says to me, oh, they've recognized there's anger, there's a conflict, but they're so ignorant to what's been going on, they think we just don't like each other. That to me is absolutely incredible. Let me just start with Barack Obama killed children. National Defense Authorization Act indefinite detention provision. NSA spying. NSA spying.

The prosecution of journalists and whistleblowers. And then let's move on to more towards the end. Hillary Clinton deleting 30,000 emails, getting away with it, and the establishment lying and protecting. How about this? Russia gate, Ukraine gate, the Covington kids over and over and over. Benghazi. Lies. Benghazi.

Afghanistan. Now, I can complain about the things Trump did with the commando raids in Yemen and the drone strikes, upping the drone strikes, missile strikes in Syria too. And I can tell you, we, I think most people in this country are pissed off at the establishment for those reasons and many, many more. But what do they say? We just don't like each other. No, no, no. You don't know this faction of the establishment zombie NPCs. They don't, they just hate, they hate, or they're ignorant. They don't read. They don't care to learn. And they don't want to hear what you have to say. But the conflict we are seeing bubble up from, I guess, the American populists, be it moderate left and right, then you have the establishment left.

There's real reasons why there's a conflict happening. Yeah, I think I think that that's true. But the layman, the average American, they hate each other and don't even know why people people hate their neighbors. And I agree with you to a certain degree because I do think that there's reasons why. But a lot of people cannot even articulate the reason why they don't like Trump. Why do you think it is? Where do you think it comes from? People are dumb.

We've been dumbed down through technology, through the school system. People are such sheep. And maybe we've always been this way. But this is what I'm saying, right? You ask the average Trump supporter, do you watch Trump speak? They'll probably say yes. And that's why they like him. How many people have we heard? They used to be Democrats and then they decided to vote for Trump after they actually listened to the man. What the media had done, the establishment with articles like this, what are we mad about exactly? They don't tell

their audience what's really happening. They show Trump in the worst possible light. I saw a Reddit post and it was like one of the top posts and it said, for the life of me, I don't understand why this wasn't the end of it. And it was a picture of Trump doing the arm thing. And it said, Trump mocks disabled reporter. They set Trump up with that. And if you actually watch the video, Trump supporters said, Trump insults everyone in the same way saying, oh, geez, oh, geez. It has nothing to do with the reporter in general. When you realize that Trump insults everybody that way, you're like, oh, he's just an asshole.

It wasn't directed at one disabled guy, but the media lied about it. Then all of a sudden you're like, OK, I get it. He's kind of a dick. But what is he saying? And then you actually listen to what he has to say. And you're like, wow, the media told me he was a white supremacist now it turns out he just wants to bring factories back all of a sudden people vote for him i just kind of want to add a little bit to your point that you were making in the beginning i think it's fair to acknowledge

that the establishment has been screwing over the average person for a very long time whether it's the wars the banker bailouts the hyper money printing there's a lot of problems that are artificially created for the benefit of the ruling elite in the United States that screws over the average American. And then they have the gall to say it's his fault. And they're doing this with social conditioning. They're doing this with the algorithms. They're doing this with trauma-based mind control and emotional manipulation.

And they're saying all of your problems that we caused how we we we laced you we skinned you we screwed you over your neighbor's the problem and and some people are actually believing it and and buying that bag of lies and and to me this is why we're such we're so close towards this conflict which again we should do everything in our power to try to avoid sorry you had something to say as well one more point real quick sorry um i just want to reiterate a point that we brought up on a couple other shows lauren bobert made fun of biden for saying true and non a shabba to pressure when he when he had that gaffe she said biden has never fulfilled his promise of getting us true and non a shabba to pressure or whatever and the response from the

democrat activist base was what is she trying to say her brain brain is finally rotted. Oh no, look how dumb she is. What was she trying to type? They didn't know Joe Biden said that because they don't watch the news. And Politico and CNN, these outlets, don't inform them of what's actually going on. So they live in this bubble world, echo chamber, where they hate everyone outside of it.

And the people outside of it, beyond the fire, have seen all the different aspects of reality and the nuance. That's the conflict. Can we play the true and honest shot of the pressure at some point? Well, I'll pull it up. Yeah, no, you hit the nail on the head because that's how I became Republican and why I voted for Trump is because I went to one of his rallies. Now, first and foremost, I'm open-minded. And that's where people need to get to the point where they can say let me open my mind

up and hear both sides of an argument before i make a decision but i went to a rally a trump rally and i think it was 2015 2016 and i went in there and he was supposed to be this racist dude throwing black people out of his rallies for no reason illegally and all this other stuff i went there and the dude was cool he was saying all the things that i believe i'm like and he and he did it with passion he did it um authentically all of the above and then i found out that he wasn't throwing people out of his events illegally he was buying or renting these spaces um as a private event and you can in a private event you can ask people to leave and if they refuse to leave they can be arrested for trespassing that's what he did he gave an announcement before every rally that he did

and and all of that blew my mind as a police officer and i said you know what these people align and i'll say this too about the republicans is that the republicans need to do a good job at recruiting and converting but they don't they but but the republicans don't do the converting the democrats do i didn't become i didn't become a republican because of republicans and converting. But the Republicans don't do the converting. The Democrats do. I didn't become a Republican because of Republicans. I can't become a crazy Democrat. All of my friends, my dad,

everybody, they go so crazy, these leftists. They go so wacky that it pushes people away and then they end up going to the other side. Would you start a new political party? It's too late. It's too late. Yeah. It's too late because, you know, you still have people in this country that are rational, right?

There's the radical and then there's the rational people. And I think a lot of rational people still have rational ideas within the Republican Party and believe that it could actually be, you know, rescued. If you get another party, it just, you're going to split the vote. I'm going to play this clip just real quick. Effective strategy to mobilize true international suffrage of pressure. I'll lead an effective strategy to mobilize true international suffrage of pressure. I'll lead an effective strategy to mobilize

true international suffrage of pressure. It's the way the crowd cheers after he says it. It's like this cult of like, they don't even know what he said, but they're like, yes. That's another thing. I was like, when he says Trinidad-Chicago depression or whatever and Batacaf care, everyone goes, yeah. It's like, what?

They're cheering just for the fact that he made a noise. It doesn't even matter what he said. They don't even know. That's usually politics here. Trinidad-Chicago depression. I mean, the guy is showing early signs of mental deterioration. I mean, it's not even a joke. I mean, the fact that he's stumbling over his words, he can't talk straight.

He don't know where he's at half of the time. This proves that the president is not in charge. This proves that someone else is calling the shots. That's from my perspective. That's how I see it. That's my opinion. I know we disagree, and we can debate this later. Evidence, maybe?

No, no, no. Hold on. It's a good point, Luke. I disagree with you. I think your opinion is valid in my opinion i think he's sitting at the table whacked out of his mind kamala harris doesn't care and he's telling people we got you know he's in this like the situation room you got libya come on man and then they're like okay and they all look around at each other and they're like

you got it and they walk out of the room like, what do we do? Withdraw? Attack? I don't know. Let's just move some ships around. And then they do. I think Joe Biden is just muttering and sputtering. And they just say, when you look at Kamala Harris not going to the border, I don't think that's an issue of Biden not running the show. I think it's an issue of them being like, I don't know, man. I don't care.

Biden says she's the borders are and she's like, I ain't doing it. What's he going to do? He's going to forget. So I don't know, man, I don't care. Biden says she's the borders are, and she's like, I ain't doing it. What's he going to do? He's going to forget, so I don't care. I think there's a whole bunch of BlackRock corporate executives or dark suits sitting with literal strings on Biden and pulling him every step of the way as he moves. But that's just my own perspective and opinion. But I also wanted to add, I think this concept of civil unrest, of a civil war, it's not a crazy one newsweek had a very

important article today and they were talking about how civil unrest historically is the norm after pandemics and they talked to two political scientists and they said between 1300 between the 1300s black death and the 1918 spanish flu there were 57 pandemics and there was only four cases of them that didn't result in a revolt or large-scale protest afterwards and they actually announced a number of times yeah the cops just walked in yeah i don't know what's going on here uh should we uh yeah that i i was looking at my notes and i was like somebody did somebody swatch you yep somebody swatted us did they Yep, somebody swatted us. Did they really?

Yep, somebody swatted us. How do you know? I have somebody texting me. Okay, wow. Yeah, just a police officer entered here, looked around, because it looks like someone swatted this live broadcast here. Glad they didn't come in here bussing, man. I'm glad, yeah, man. swatted this live broadcast here glad they didn't come in here busting man yeah yeah i mean

that's that's something that's extremely dangerous extremely reckless because you know swat incidences have led to a lot of innocent people dying uh dogs being shot people being shot people thinking that their house is being raided by criminals defending themselves. So whoever did that and they're listening, like. Yeah, those things, those things, you know, and it's a healthy penalty if you get caught swatting. That's a felony crime and you can spend years in jail over it because the inherent risk, if a police officer, you know, believes that if the police officer believes that there's who knows what they said, you know, they could have said somebody is screaming for help. Someone's kidnapped here. We need to send in. And I heard a boom.

I heard a boom. I don't know if you open that door loud. They hit. So what if we were in here, you know, and we saw him and we pulled the trigger on him? Yeah, we're in a shootout with the police. You can get them hurt. We can get hurt. You know, it's crazy.

Did that happen to you while you were on the force? No, we never got caught on that. I'm going to tell you guys what just happened. I just walked out of the room. The cops walked in. They walked around with flashlights. We've been swatted. I am extremely unhappy with this because I can't necessarily be mad at the officers they were

very polite but i do not like cops coming into my house when we have mats all over the place they come back with a warrant yeah and i don't know who let them in or why what happened uh i understand they're here because we got swatted a report was made that two people had been shot and killed and that the gunman was threatening to hurt themselves. They didn't send a SWAT team. It was just a couple of officers. I don't want to drag them or be mean to them because they were polite.

But I'm not happy with the idea that they're walking into our studio while we are alive. They're walking around. Cop immediately, I walked out of the room. He immediately came up and said, I'm really, really sorry about this. We're not trying to, you know, screw with you or ruin what you're doing here's what happened

we got a call two people had been shot and killed and a person was going to be killing themselves we have to check it out make sure everything's okay we're going to be doing a sweep once we figure it out and i'm just like come back with a warrant but i have to say this is what i have to say i don't think that they believe that that was 100 true there's no way on planet earth that only two officers would show up to a shooting double homicide with a variegated subject yeah tell them to leave and like well then let me let me just explain this from a police perspective as well is that if the police do a swatting call right um and it's found to be illegitimate right they you know any evidence that they think they may have or they may it's suppressed because this was an illegitimate entry into a house

you can enter under exigent circumstances but if it's an illegitimate exigent circumstance there's no uh searching for evidence and different things like that so i get it but as a cop i see how you can't just not do anything what's the exogenic circumstance exigent exigent what's that exigent circumstance meaning that it's a crazy circumstance in which you have to do it in a hurry it's a right now thing that means that right now i have to act emergency it's an emergency i think this to me is like shows highlights the value of local police because when i was in chile i noticed it was all national cops everywhere they all have like uniforms standing on the corner if you get a call like this and it's only national cops you got no

no one's gonna be there like what's happening right now you know your neighbors what's happening right now it doesn't make sense like if if i'm a cop and i'm hearing active shooting guy with a gun shot two people i'm not gonna walk in here without a SWAT team right yeah well it depends right you gotta think of like i said existing circumstances police officers have a duty to respond immediately right a SWAT team takes a while to assemble i was on the SWAT team yeah and we had about an hour. If it was a full call out, a hostage situation, we still had to have enough time for everybody on the team to get their equipment and get to the

location and we had to get together to a certain degree to try to figure out what tactics we're going to use. It takes time. If there was a real call of two people shot, a man with a gun, they have to respond now. And if those two officers are the only ones in the area, they have to come now and they have to force entry and they have to make sure everything's OK.

That speaks to the bravery of law enforcement officers, because what if there was a situation like that and they were the only two here and they were going to risk their lives potentially getting mowed down shot and killed ambushed right but they had to respond anyway because there were there was potential loss of life that they had to rescue i've been here lately the cops don't have to respond well the supreme court has ruled many times if a police officer sees a crime happening they do not have to intervene that's an argument that's an argument That's an argument in the Supreme Court. That's not an argument that happens on the scene. I got news. Oh, what's the news? They entered in direct.

Okay, hold on. I was just running around. When they came to the door, they were told you may not enter without a warrant. They said we're entering anyway. Oh, well, which is which is lawful. Exigent circumstances. Right. We can enter your property and search the premises which is what I said

I told them with respect officers I would like you to leave unless you have a warrant and they said we get it we swept the house we're leaving I don't trust it this is the way it's supposed to happen

and you're right by saying you hey, are you guys done? You need to leave. The police officers have to check because if they show up here and there's a dead body in the room somewhere because somebody just say somebody in the house called and said it called it in. But they actually, you know, did something to themselves. And the cops just showed up and said, oh, there's nothing there. The next morning, there's a dead person in the house who's going to be held liable. So a quick sweep is reasonable. And then they have to themselves. And the cops just showed up and said, oh, there's nothing there. The next morning, there's a dead person in the house who's going to be held liable. So a quick sweep is reasonable

and then they have to leave. For future reference. Yes. Cops ever walk in like that? Put on the room cam. Okay. Oh, nice. Well, it takes me a minute

to switch it over, but yeah. For sure. Or whatever camera shows them. So Brandon was talking and the cops are like walking around with flashlights and I'm like... I saw all their faces too.

Everyone looked. I was like, what's everyone looking at? The one cop, he like waves with flashlights and I'm like – I saw all their faces too. Everyone looked. I was like, what's everyone looking at? The one cop, he like waves over to me and I'm like, no. I'm like recording. We're live. What are you doing? I thought he was a friend of yours. I thought he knew you.

I thought he was coming to the show because I saw the door but I'm like, who's coming in during the podcast? What's going on? Well, I feel bad. They were being nice and I understand like someone calls in and says people are dead. Yeah. And they're like, let's go check it out. And their mentality is like, we're going to be protecting Tim and his house and everything. With our lives and we don't know what's happening.

You see it was only with two of them. There were three. No, there were four or five. Oh, four or five. Which is good. Because that was the upstairs guy. Good, good, good. But when you brought up, like, there's no way they wouldn't come with gear.

They wouldn't be prepared. I think when they got here and realized everything was looking normal, they were like, okay, let's just do a check. But it seems like a swatting, right? The problem I have with it is I don't want to blame the guy because there's a circumstance of what if someone got killed? What if they're really in trouble? But then the problem is what if they can just use exigent circumstances as a pretext to come into my house? We have doormats at every door that's come back with a warrant. That's not a joke.

So Allison, who was downstairs, they come to the door and says, you cannot come in without a warrant. And they said, we are coming in anyway. We have exigent circumstances. And then I was like, because when they walked in here, I'm like, who let them in? Yeah, of course. First of all, they let themselves in. Yeah, but you got to understand, too, is that they can't come here and do a search. You know what I'm saying? They're supposed to be searching for dead bodies and a crime.

They come in. There's no crime. They leave. So they can't go snooping around. They can't go looking in the rooms. Exigent circumstances. Exigent circumstances. They will have to articulate that I went and I went to this room, this room.

I saw the guy had a body-worn camera. They can only go here, here, here, and leave. They can't go snooping around your property. What if they see something illegal when they walk around for exigent? Well, this is the thing. If this was a real call and there was a real incident that occurred and they had to come in the house and they saw a bill of drugs here, they have that. That's that's in plain sight. They can actually come here and get the drugs and charge somebody with it.

What if it's an exigent call and they see it's the same thing? It's in plain view. That's why I'm calling BS. However, we don't do anything like that here. However, if it's a swatting, none of that. I don't think any of that will hold up in the court of law. If it's a fake call to somebody's house and the police were here

and then they see something, I don't think it'll hold up in the court of law. Are they going hard on this guy that swatted? Yeah, that's a felony crime. You can do like 20 years in prison for swatting. It's a very serious crime. Look, man, I said it was 2022. I'm like, they are going to be going hard against prison for swatting it's a it's a it's a very serious crime i don't i don't look man i said it was 2022 i'm like they are going to be going hard against everybody you're going to be harassed

you're going to be censored you're going to be smeared it's but i don't think i don't think the cops were involved i think someone swatted exactly no i'm saying whoever swatted us like that's the pressure they want to they want to put in the house but imagine like what you were saying there's a lot of people what's that book you commit three felonies a day or whatever yeah so there you know maybe someone here did something dumb and then we get swatted and the cops walk in they're like oh look the cat's doing a backflip on sunday that's illegal and things like that just another thing are phone calls exigent circumstances could maybe rule that just because someone called and said something yeah it just depends man like like when i was

a police officer we used to have these uh 911 hang-ups yeah and those are the most dangerous calls because you don't know why a person hung up if you get enough information and it's reasonable reasonable to believe that there could be something there you have to check because you may get here and two people shot and killed in a house and a person barricading themselves is not going to make any noise. Right. And this house is confusing,

you know, so, you know, somebody can be somewhere and you're not going to know they're there. I'll tell you, for people who don't know, this house is a maze.

I mean, I don't know where I'm at. It's a maze. It's a maze here than it was before. It's not the craziest, but it's funny how people get lost here and I don't realize, I'm like,

wow, they got lost. I've been here before and I don't know where i'm at yeah yeah because there's there's two different studio rooms there's like five floors it's a ridiculous building there's a sub basement a basement a first second third floor we have a new attic and uh when you're going up to the studio there's actually like a fork in the road and people usually go the wrong way and end up in the wrong room and then they get confused it's too's too dark. And they're like, where's the light? But that's good for me because I was thinking about if someone broke in here, I was like,

well, you know, when we're going over our plan for our security protocols, because we've had these threats before. And as I was going through it, I was like, wow, I just realized a person who comes in this house will get lost. Because what people need to understand is there's a lot of people who are like, Tim's got a giant million dollar mansion, blah, blah, blah. It's an office building.

Like the second floor is a bunch of desks and computers for editing work. One of the bedrooms, it's an equipment room with shelves and a computer. And then there's an editing bay. There's actual,

and then there's a music studio. This is a place where people work, not a place where people live. Right, right. So you're walking into a 10,000 square foot office building in the shape of a house, basically. Right, right. because you can give them your phone number. They'll call you and say, hey, we got a call. Is everything okay there?

And you're like, yeah, it's no big deal. Another thing I think would be good is to put cameras in here so you can see what's going on. Well, we do. So can you switch to the room camera real quick? Yeah, hold on. Let me change it. So we've actually got a PTZ camera that can basically sweep the whole room. It's actually pretty good. Look at this.

So that's why we didn't – I wish we had it ready to go. Well, no, I think if we knew. Like no one expected cops to walk into the studio. But for future reference, we see someone. Let's get the camera on. I have to say they did a pretty decent job, man. Nobody pulled a gun. Yeah.

You know, when I was a cop and we searched houses, we had our guns out and we were, you know, it was way more intense than that. But maybe they caught on to say, oh, there's nothing going on here. Well, we're in the middle of nowhere. Yeah. So when you're in a city and you're in a house with 50 houses and hundreds of people, those cops are probably like, if this person's armed, they could hurt their neighbors. We're out in the middle of nowhere. Literally, like, it's just trees everywhere. The cops here are probably like, well, if they are, they could hurt their neighbors. We're out in the middle of nowhere. Literally, like it's just trees everywhere. The cops here are probably like, well, if they are locked in their house, they ain't going anywhere.

There's nobody around them. So we'll get there as fast as we can and we'll check it out. It's less of a dire circumstance as opposed to being in a dense population. Yeah, somebody must have called as if they were in the house. That's what he said. Because if it's an external person that don't have current information in the house, it's not safe for cops to just bombard in. It's better for them to make announcements

and not hostage negotiate and stuff like that, but unless somebody's bleeding out and then you got that whole thing. Whoever did it wanted it to happen during the show. Wanted attention too. That's what they always do. They wanted to send the message, obviously. And they're probably watching going like,

ha-ha, we did it. But they didn't do anything, and if they get found, they're going to go to prison. They send a message, obviously. And they're probably watching, going like, ha-ha, we did it. But they didn't do anything. And if they get found, they're going to go to prison. It's a felony crime. I have a feeling that they won't be found. That's just my personal perspective. It's so easy to spoof. It's like...

They might. They might. You never know. With technology, the way the technology is today, they got... Well, the NSA knows everything, but they don't share everything unless it works in their personal benefit right plus it's january 6 i'm like who knows yeah what lies what manipulations but i'm i'm just saying 2022 man the censorship the smears the swatting the fear tactics the establishment does not want and i'll say i keep telling people vote in the primaries oh you have to local and in a primary

that is the scariest thing because that's their secret the Republicans and the Democrats know that their worst case scenario for the most part is even if they vote for the other the other you know party we are winning the primaries and the establishment will still be in power so when we come out on our shows your show

our show whatever show we say vote in the primaries they're like oh that's the secret that's where you actually can get rid of the neocons and the neolibs. That's where it changed over. You don't have to wait four years. You can get them in a primary and make sure you vote local. You know, a lot of people are so worried about these federal elections that they are the leftists are taking over in local elections. They're taking over the school board. They're taking over the school board. They're taking over all of these local elections, city council, and they're running

the city from within. You may have a Republican senator, but the state level politicians are all Democrats. And so then when election time comes around and things like that, who's monitoring that? It's going to be the people that's on the state level. And so I think that we need to

vote in and out of season. Like, you have to vote. You have to get involved. You have to be a part of the process. You know, me and my wife, we made a promise this year that we're going to be more a part of the process. We can't just sit back and just talk. We got to be, we got to know what's going on. We got to endorse the right

candidates. We have to support candidates, fund them if we can. We have to support candidates, fund them if we can. We have to be active or we're going to get steamrolled. Just really quick because a lot of people are asking in the comment section, everyone's fine, everyone's safe. I'm talking to people in the house on the phone. Every animal's safe. Nothing happened.

Luckily, we were able to avoid anyone getting seriously hurt. So we were very lucky, and everyone's okay, and everyone's safe. After you mentioned, like, why would they just come to guys? I was like, I need to go tell them to get out. Like, cause they were, they were, they were, when I, when I talked to him, they were like, we're, we're, we're, we're going to go or whatever. And then I thought, no, I need to, I need to see him at the door. I need to make sure that I say to them, I don't want them here.

I don't approve of them being here. I don't approve of any searches. And they didn't do any extensive kind of searching. They just walked through the house and walked out. And then when I went down, I was like, who let them in? And people were like, no, actually, we denied them entry. And so I'm like, all right, I think we did the best we could do in the circumstances. It kind of feels like an inoculation.

They're like, okay, we know Tim. They know us. Some of the cops watch the show in the town. They said that? I've been told. Andreas told me once that one of the cops, he met a cop and he was like, yeah, I watched the show. It's awesome. I think they're familiar.

Yeah, they know that there's going to like, yeah, I watched the show. It's awesome. I think they're familiar. They know that there's going to be effery. This is the challenge. This is the challenge with cops. I feel I empathize with them, especially if they're keeping us safe in the event. Some lunatic could actually come here and then make that phone call and they're going to be like, what if it literally is some crazy psychopath wants to go and screw up the show and hurt people? Right. We need their help. We do. Yeah. So the one time they do come in, I don't want to be like what if it literally is some crazy psychopath wants to go and and and screw up the show and hurt people right we need their help we do yeah so the one time they do come in i don't want to be the boy who cried wolf next time something bad happens i'm like guys no for real this is me and this is happening they're going to be like yeah yeah yeah yeah we're not

falling for that again and you don't want to be a jerk i don't want it to happen and you don't want to be a jerk to him either i think that that wouldn't matter they'll still save your life but you don't want to be a jerk to them. Communication is the best thing. That's the hard thing. I think communication is the best thing. I would have an opportunity to get the officer's badge number, get communication with the officers, and set up a contingency plan and say, look, this is what we do here. This is where I'm located. If we have an incident.

Could we have a secret code where if we call something, we only we know a certain passphrase. I mean, they just look. It's hard to get through the dispatch like that. But they could put like because you're on our system and I think the system is probably generally the same across the board. Your address has a flag on it. Right. So in the system, it'll say that this house was swatted. They could write that down in the system.

They could say this person is a podcast or They can have a special note for this address. So therefore, when a call comes in to the dispatch, the dispatch runs the address and address has a flag on it. And they go, OK, they'll tell the officers this person is a podcaster. We've been there before for swatting. You know, here's this. Here's the person's phone number. So an officer can try to contact a contact here first before they show up and it becomes violent. If they contact the contact here, you they show up and it becomes violent if they contact the contact here you say no it's real deal like we're we need your help you know it's better to have relationships with police than to leave it up to chance because it could go south and we don't

want to be on opposite we had to do this with the last place we lived at so those cops were awesome and i went to the department we talked politics and we had a laugh and yeah and i told them like just so you guys know like we're like a block away so i just want to say like the what i was trying to convey is you know and i was like with respect you know i understand why you guys are here but i would appreciate it if you would leave i don't approve of any search with you know unless you have a warrant and they were like okay all right you know we get it and the truth is they probably just imagine if they found something in here you know how long an investigation will take no cop wants to do that they don't want nothing to do with this they don't even want to be here like

i mean the average cop would be like okay yeah tell me twice you good we good i'm getting out of here i really go hang out this is one of the reasons why we're moving to west virginia too yeah um i don't trust maryland's laws on self-defense i don't trust this state and while i live in west virginia we set up you know production right on the side of the river which is in maryland so there's the one thing that concerns me is or that i find disconcerting and this does concern me and everybody here actually if this is a if this is you know if you're going to raid somewhere if you're going to hurt someone, the smartest thing an evil person would do is swat us. You know why?

Get the cops to relax. Get them to think, oh, it's just a swatting. So the next time this happens, they get a report of something crazy going on. They're going to be like, let's slow down, guys. It's probably BS. And it gives the bad guy more time. And if they're targeting us, they know that. So we're armed here.

But we are limited to a certain degree based on what Maryland does allow. But Maryland allows enough. I'll put it that way. More than enough. West Virginia allows way more. Yeah. That's why I live in Arizona. Constitutional care.

I got all kind of stuff. And I got it everywhere. So if somebody comes to my house, it'll be like Fourth of July. It's going to be a light show. Are you on really good terms with the cops in the area? Oh, yeah. They know me. All of them follow me on the area? Oh, yeah. They know me. All of them follow me on social media.

So they know me. You know, the funny thing is my alarm went off and my son didn't know the code to disarm it. And the alarm goes off, man. The cops show up thinking it's a burglary call. And they end up seeing me at the front door. And they're like, Officer Tatum. So I'm like, yo, put this address down this is where i live so just in case something happened you know it's me do you get down with the fire department too

do you hang out with the fireman oh i don't yeah my best friend is a firefighter in the phoenix valley and uh yeah we cool my dad was a firefighter oh yeah me too my dad retired he was uh he retired as a chief of waco fire oh nice yeah so oh Yeah, so. Oh, yeah, Waco. We used to have, like, firemen, police picnics and stuff. Yeah, we talk trash every day. Of course, yeah. We talk trash. I call them the second responders. Oh, yeah.

Hey, what's this book behind you? We haven't mentioned it yet. I've been looking at it throughout the show. Oh, it's my book, Beating Black and Blue, Being a Black Cop in America Under Siege. I wrote a book about policing in America, this very thing, you know, trying to make sure that there's education on policing in America, this very thing, trying to make sure that there's education on policing in America with the defund

the police movement, with police brutality, what's a justified shooting, what's not. I interview five police officers in the book to give their experiences of what it's like being a police officer today, in society today with all the craziness that's going on. And at the end of the book, we give solutions. So that's one of

my prouder moments of 2021 was publishing. Where's the best place for people to get it? Amazon. Cool. So you go on Amazon, be black and blue, put it in there. And it was when I launched it,

it was number one, bestseller. Um, I have a question. One new release. Do you think we should make robot cops? No, it's something about personal relationships. it's something about human to human interaction

you don't want the cops to be letter of the law you want them to be letter and spirit of the law and like those cops that came here you know they have emotions and you know maybe they can perceptualize things a little better than a computer would but you do want to connect you know i think it's invaluable for community policing and community policing to be a part of policing and the community, you know, the bond together. Because if we had the adequate amount of police officers,

we funded our police officers like we should, we would have so many more productive relationships. And because police aren't bad, they are not inherently bad. It's just, and what they do is not bad. It's just that it's such a big miscommunication. What about the cops in New York city and other major areas that are enforcing

lockdowns and shutting down small businesses while they allow Walmart and Amazon to be open? Well, you got to think of it like this. You say, who's bad, the officer that's doing it or the system or the governor or the mayor but they wouldn't be able to do it without the officers following orders no no no but this is you got an individualist i'm not a collectivist right so this

is the way this is the way i look at it i say let's come let's make sure we're talking about the same thing if an officer is arresting a person for trespassing because a private business has rights i'm cool with that i don't believe it's right that a municipality enforces mandates on on shutting down a business now i don't know the nuances i don't know what leverage police officers have are they just giving tickets are they forcing people out what are they actually doing i don't know they're putting people in camps in australia but that's australia that's not here i don't agree with what's happening there in new york city here an unvaxxed guy walks into a Burger King and they say you can't order. Unless you have your vax card, you got to leave.

He says, no, I want to be served. They say you're trespassing. The cops come in. The cops say you're trespassing now and we're going to arrest you. But the only reason they're trespassing is because they're unvaccinated. No, no. You got to think of it from a police perspective. You're right according to the business.

But according to the police, it doesn't matter what the business is doing it's just a matter are you have you been asked a reasonable request to leave it just seems like the cops enforcing vaccination with extra steps no no no i don't think the cops have anything to do with that you know the cops are responding because a business asks the person to leave and they refuse to this could be mass mandate but the business doesn't want you to leave the business wants you to buy a cheeseburger no but they want you to leave they they don't so a lot of these businesses will straight up say like we're not the ones doing this the city's making us so if the police if the police are enforcers of the state and the state is state is telling the business you better kick them out otherwise we'll punish you then you can't go to back to the state and be like okay now kick them out but it's

not your fault because you're a different state actor. No, no, no. It's the state. Well, no, I understand, but we have laws that we voted on. And so if we want things to change, we need to change those laws. We need to change the power that we give governors and mayors. But it's decrees. It's not even laws. Yeah, it's not a law.

It's politicians saying, I decree your small business gets shut down and police officers come and fine you and steal your wealth and steal your business license and make you shut down while we're going to allow all these other big corporations to be open and this is because i said so and cops are like yep got it what do you want the cops to do say no say no this is this is a decree this is not a law this wasn't passed democratically this wasn't something that we agreed upon through our system you're going above and beyond the system you're abusing your power. You could only enforce this power if I do it. So I'm going to say, no,

I'm going to hold myself responsible to the letter of the law. I want to believe you. I want to, I want to go down that path with you. I agree to a certain degree, but at the same time, there's laws on the book. So if the,

you've given the mayor, the governor's power to enforce certain things, you may disagree with them. It's not up to the police officer to governor's power to enforce certain things. You may disagree with him. It's not up to the police officer to say, I agree. I disagree. The police officer is supposed to act on what is the actual law. What authority do the mayor or the governor have according to the law? Now, if you're violating the law and the Constitution, then I would agree that police officers should not participate in that.

It's got to be obvious. It can't be ambiguous. So let's say I live in New Jersey and I take my 30-30 Winchester repeater on a sling and I walk down the street and a cop walks up and says, felony, you're going to prison and arrests me.

Is that cop wrong to do that? I'm not sure. What's the law? Well, the Constitution says I have the right to keep and bear arms right so this is this is the this is the problem with with us voting for certain things well you can't vote away my constitutional rights but we have we have and we have accepted it they're inalienable no no no hold on hold on let me let me say a lot of us haven't no no if a person now now i know a lot of us i would never vote for uh gun restriction at all but the way we have our system

is that maybe people don't agree but the majority voted and that's that's how it gets that's the point of the constitution right but this is what i'm saying to prevent i agree with you to a certain to a certain degree i wish we didn't have any of those things in but we're inconsistent with the way we apply these things if a person murdered people, went to prison for 20 years, got out, and they're a prohibited possessor. Is that right? I think the answer is no. But I'm saying, but as a society, we've accepted

that as reasonable. So there's been a few instances of evolution on my position. First was I was like, no, I think if you do your time, you get your guns back. And then people correctly noted the Constitution, your rights can be curtailed through due process, which means if you are a violent felon, part of due process is you can no longer have a weapon that is constitutional.

And I said, actually, yeah, that actually is true. It's in the Constitution. But for a 60-year-old woman to have a snub nose, you know, 38 or something, and for a cop to be like, she belongs in prison. I don't care what the Constitution says. But a cop, you got to think, a cop doesn't make that decision. That decision is made in the court of law. No, no, no, no, no, no. A cop has discretion.

A cop has discretion how he wants to enforce the laws. No, no, you don't. He has discretion. The Supreme Court's actually ruled on this. Okay, no. An officer, okay, just say this person murdered another person can the officer walk up and say i'm not arresting you because i don't want to arrest you you've murdered a pedophile so i'm not going to arrest you you don't it's certain things you have discretion on it's certain things

you don't have discretion on right a speeding ticket a speeding ticket you can have a discretion on criminal criminal law no no you're to enforce that law. There was a really big story in New York that Luke covered and interviewed the guy. The Supreme Court, I think it was right, the Supreme Court actually said the cops have no obligation to enforce the law. But that's not applied on a street level. That's applied when you have to challenge these things in the court of law. That's not applied on the street. Well, my friend Joe Lizzito was attacked by a serial murderer who was on a killing spree.

He was able to stop him. Police officers were watching the whole time, standing by, looking as the whole thing happened. The police officers knew that there was a serial killer on their loose. They saw him attack, kill people. They saw him stabbing people. Police officers with firearms, with batons, Two of them decided to stand behind and hide and not be seen as Joe Lozito, a man who is a hero, who stopped a mass murderer. He used techniques that he saw on the UFC, took him down, disabled his knife after being stabbed in the head, almost losing his life. And after that, only after the knife was was thrown away after this

this this killer was was finally subdued then the police officers came out put handcuffs on him and they waited a long time joe lazito almost bled out because of that long wait and then on the national news they had police officers save man from serial killer calling him a victim which was an utter disgrace joe lazito sued the police said, how am I a victim when I stopped this guy? And these cops were just watching, sitting there on their hands, not doing anything. Who was considered the victim? Joe Lizzito, the guy who took him down, the guy who almost lost his life, the guy who almost bled out because the police officers were waiting to get backup, even though they

had him so due and handcuffed. And Joe Lizzito sued the NYPD, saying, you besmirched my name you lied about me you didn't help me you were watching me getting stabbed and the police officers argued we have no duty to protect and serve you and the court in new york upheld that ruling are those officers still on on duty yeah they were promoted by mayor michael bloomberg they were seen as heroes by the corporate media right let me this is this is one thing i'll have to do i can't speak to that that sounds like the craziest thing I've ever heard. I've never heard of a case like that. Now I'll take your word for it.

I had to look. No, no. I did a whole video about this. I'll let you even talk to Joe Lizito if you want to. I will have to, I will have to watch it and go through before I can. I have never in my life saw a police officer or even heard of a police officer in any of the connective agencies that we've been a part of we train with that will ever use that as a measuring stick of how they enforce law or how they participate in

saving and protecting people you know my department there was a a order that's called cowardice you cannot show cowardice you will be fired it doesn't matter what the constitution say so i'm saying if it end up in a constitutional law maybe they'll determine it have you ever have you ever seen it uh when you were an officer have you ever have you or are you uh ever witnessed have you ever witnessed or have you seen someone with say an illegal amount of pot and been like get out of here kid i don't care about that i've never done that but do you have you seen other cops i've heard of cops doing i've i i know of cops that do it in Chicago all the time. I also know that when I was arrested because me and my brother got attacked physically and I tried calling 911.

The guys attacking us turned my phone off and then called the cops on us. And when the cops showed up, I said, we've got evidence they attacked us. I don't care. I can't do a cross complaint. They're not getting arrested. The police have a right to choose what they decide. And personally in my life. They're not getting arrested. The police have a right to choose what they decide. And personally, in my life. It's called probable cause.

So a police can't. This is the thing. Like if a police officer sees a crime committed, he has to act on that crime. You're sworn to do that, to hold the Constitution in the law. And the Constitution says you have a right to keep and bear arms. Yeah, I understand that. So they're not doing that. I agree with what you're saying. But we have laws on the books says you have a right to keep in bear arms no yeah i understand that so they're not doing that i agree with what you're saying but we have laws on the books like

you just explained a person who is a felon who murdered 20 people or something let me let me give you a better example no i'm saying a felon gets out of prison and on his record he's a prohibited possessor a cop catches him going into a school with a gun in his pocket they're going to arrest him for illegal being in legal possession of a firearm. How about the Jewish schools in New York, which have a First Amendment right to practice their religion, and the cops were going and filming them and then fining people and welding – Welding the parks closed so the kids couldn't play in them. How about when they were going to churches and synagogues and telling people you're not allowed to worship? That is – they are not upholding their oath of the Constitution. Now, I want to make sure there's a distinction here.

When we were in the Philly suburbs, our suburb cops were fantastic. We didn't deal with that because when you have a smaller department and these people are – these cops are members of the community, things seem to work a whole lot better than when you have a large, heavily dense area where the cops don't know you and don't care about you. But every day in New York City, they violate the Constitution outright. There's no question and i'm not disagreeing i'm not disagreeing with that but here's the here's the nuance that i see in this and i think people should think about this for a minute you know there's people that actually believe that if you don't put on a mask that you're killing people just imagine if this was the swine flu or ebola would it be out of the ordinary for governors to mandate that there's a curfew if ebola was out and people were dying in mass

amounts because they weren't protecting or because they were crowding in places i think most people would be like okay that makes sense if the business were shut down and they said you cannot open a business because ebola is spreading everywhere you have to shut this down if in fact that was the case many people would not argue the constitutionality of a governor doing that but that's a hypothetical that wasn't the case think about that for two seconds people would willingly be like you are right i won't open my business they don't need a government to tell them to do it when they're watching hemorrhagic fever kill people no but what i'm saying is that the governor has the power to enforce these things or to order these things in an emergency situation the power that we gave governors to do in an

emergency the difference is we at least i don't believe that this is ebola i don't believe we should be doing any of this right this is This is my belief. However, there are people on the spectrum that are that believe wholeheartedly that if you don't have two of them on your face, that you're going to kill people. And people are dying and overloading the hospitals. And so governors in New York and governors in some of these left wing areas are enforcing decrees things. Not by law. And also governors in Arizona and in Florida are not. I want to mention just based off what we just went through with getting swatted and it wasn't the most intense.

The SWAT team didn't kick our door in. A bunch of cops just came in. We said no and they swept the property. I think if more leftists understood what this is like, it would be a very, very, very important thing for them to understand. These cops were not mean to us. They came and we didn't want them to. We do have fears about people breaking in here. And we do talk to the cops.

And we have talked to the cops just about – we've had issues in the past. We call the cops and talk to them. And so I'm sitting here as like, I don't necessarily trust them to come in here without a warrant. I don't know what they're doing or why. Every lawyer worth their weight will tell you, don't talk to cops. But I also appreciate that they just tried to save our lives. That someone called them and said, Tim Pool's house, workspace, people are dead there. And these cops rushed in and said, out of my way, there could be people hurt here.

It could have been me. These cops were like, I don't care who you are, what you're saying. For all they know, Antifa or some crackpot conspiracy person broke in here with their friends, hurt us. And now they're standing there saying, don't worry, officer, everything's fine. You don't need to come in.

You have a warrant. And the cops are going to be like, I don't care what you say if we get a report about this so it's it's it's a it's a difficult position right yeah and they're willing to die for you it's not they're not willing to show up here just to do a a patty cake with you they're willing to die man cops are dying every day in situations like this and they don't they didn't i don't believe they batted an eye they came up here and they was willing to die for the sake of you and anybody else in this in this building. And the same people that we are saying in some of these cases you see in New York where they're questionable about their enforcement and some of these laws, they are the same ones that are still out protecting people with their lives every day and getting murdered.

So I want us to balance the perspective here. We may disagree. And I think these things will find their way out in court because it's not very clear if this is a violation of the Constitution. At least big cities deal with cops all the time and people who are in rural areas don't really deal with cops all that all the time they might see him in passing but they probably know know the officers there's there's there's very few so for me i'm just saying you know we have someone mentioned that you're wearing a do not comply shirt but you're also defending cops it's because i'm a smart i'm smart enough to know that there's nuances that's exactly like do not comply with tyranny. That's like saying George Floyd. Should George Floyd have complied? I mean, yeah.

I think he would have never been under the guy's knee if he would have. Should any of these people who are running from the police, should they have complied? Yes. Just because I have a do not comply shirt don't mean I'm telling you do not comply with a lawful order. Right, right. But people are too ignorant to understand that there's two sides to this. Some people. Some people, not everybody. This is the point I'm trying to get across.

I'm torn on this one. I'm not left. I'm not right. I'm not anti-cop. I'm not pro-cop. I'm worried the police can use these – this is a pretext to enter my home without a warrant and mess with me. I'm also worried that we've got very serious security threats.

We've got a security system installed. We've had multiple security companies come out. We're in the process've got very serious security threats. We've got a security system installed. We've had multiple security companies come out. We're in the process of onboarding some security people, and these cops are willing to come in here, rush in to save us. So it's like – it's basically do you trust them or not. It's a difficult position to be in, right? I think it's fair to say you can trust them because you also got to understand they're only one part of a of the justice system they can come in here and if you believe they did something unlawful there's a process to that they they they are not going to convict you in the court of law the police can't they can arrest you based on probable cause but then you have an opportunity to defend yourself

in the court of law just like if they came in here and they found something illegal you that's going to be a legal battle in the court of law that I'm sure you can fight that. I forgot bad news for the conspiracy theorists. It might look fun on TV, but it's relatively... We've got a skee-ball machine. We've got cameras. The room behind

us is a bunch of editing desks and coding and stuff. I came out yesterday and it was silent. I was like, wow. wow yeah we've got a kitchen we we bake uh it's it's nothing crazy going on here but their conspiracy theory is to say crazy stuff about what happens and and and it's funny because people are like tim pool's building a compound i'm like we have an office building it's a house yeah i mean there always should be a middle ground and i do believe trust should be earned i mean me and tim also had very negative

experiences with police officers in chicago that were literally trying to set us up and put a gun to my head because of journalism that we were doing during events that was absolutely not warranted. So there's a number of these events and there's a number of these things. So anytime you have power, you should have some kind of transparency and accountability. And I think you could have a level-headedness when you have that. But I think a lot of a level-headedness when you have that. But I think a lot of people, there's some good officers out there and there's some bad officers out there when they have that power and it's not accounted for. And there's nothing holding them responsible for a lot of the kind of egregious actions. That's when a lot of people have a lot

of serious questions. Now, again, you shouldn't go overboard and just think that all cops are horrible or all cops are great. I think the middle ground here is important and understanding personal responsibility and understanding you're responsible for yourself is some of the things that I think we should be preaching about and talking about more than most cops are good cops. Most cops are good people. The police system in and of itself is reasonable. It's not easy to do the things that people think it's easy to do.

Like you say, most people don't interact with cops. It's impossible. If you're in New York, you know how many people live in New York? How many people live in New York? 8 million or something like that? There's one or two cops for every thousand persons. The cops are not interacting with everybody. They only really interact with about 20% of the population

and they interact with about 15% to 5% of the population all the time. It's the same group of people that are out here doing crime all the time. So most people are really interacting with police. And so I just think people are they may be feeling some type of way. There's an emotional charge to it. I understand that. But we have to.

Like I said, you have to put it in perspective the same offices where people are saying you are enacting tyranny as soon as they walk away from this call they are out here protecting the servant with their lives and so you have to understand they're not just acting in one role you may disagree with this aspect of it but you have to understand the whole story like why does the governor have the power to do these things in the first place? How can the governor tell you to shut down your business? I think the cop is like a byproduct. You should be protesting the governor.

You should be protesting the mayor. The cops are a byproduct of something that's ambiguous. But the governor wouldn't be there if it wasn't for the cops enforcing these unconstitutional edicts and decrees. And we have to understand. They're getting guidance from the governor. Exactly. Guidance is not legalese language. I mean, that's the same argument that a lot of Germans were making during World War II, saying, I was just following orders.

I was just doing what we're told. And a lot of atrocities. You cannot make the comparison between Germany and the United States. I want to make the historical context to a lot of human atrocities that have happened because people saying, I follow orders. World War II is overused too many times, but when we look at human history, a lot of pain, a lot of suffering, a lot of death resulted to men saying, you tell me to do it, I'm going to do it without even thinking about it. What I would personally would love to see is a little bit of more discernment, a little bit more upkeeping to the letter of the law, instead of just saying, this guy told me to do it, I'm going to do it, because so many human atrocities have happened,

and I think we're very close for them happening now, especially with what's happening in Australia, what's happening in Europe, what's happening in Canada, that could come here if enough officers say, I will follow that order without questioning it. Okay, look, this is the thing. It's not like the governor says, officer, you go do this. It comes down from the city council command staff and guidance that's given to the officers through the lieutenants, the captains, the chiefs. I mean, the sergeants.

These are protocols that are disseminated down through officers. And also many of these police departments have legal advisors. We were a small police department. We had a legal advisor. They would advise us, what can you do legally, according to the Constitution, according to the laws, where the department doesn't get sued? So I think it's a bunch of minutia that comes down through the pipe, and people have power that shouldn't have power in the way they do.

And now the police are taking a fall for it but they wouldn't have power if police officers weren't doing what they were told to do by them right if they could understand that if there was a little bit more discernment if they were like saying hey hey hey maybe we shouldn't as walmart's open and people are giving all of their money so that maybe we shouldn't you know we shouldn't stop by this poor grandma's house and shut down her business in new jersey maybe we just shouldn't do that personally ourselves because of the larger implications here. And that kind of discernment is all I'm asking for because it makes more sense than to just follow a decree that hurts everyone overall and destroys people's income and destroys people's livelihoods because they were just following orders. Right, but you feel that way, but some people don't feel that way. Some people don't feel like it.

So the grandma deserved to have her business shut down. Some people believe that she does if she's not do you think she does i don't think she does okay but i think but she only does because officers said yes no not the officers it's because the governor has made an order that is deeming this behavior that is going to cause people to die and contagion from this this uh virus is going to spread everywhere if people don't shut down and quarantine that's it's a it's a nuance now let me let me talk about it like this some people believe that marijuana should be illegal some people believe marijuana should be legal so do cops use their discretion in that and say well i don't think people should go to

jail for marijuana so i'm not going to arrest you for marijuana but then the cop over here says i hate marijuana my kids have gotten in the drug game and I want marijuana to stop in my community. So I'm going to enforce it just like the mandates. There's a wacky cop out here that believe that they need to wear three masks and they believe that everybody's dying. Like CNN is saying, should they over enforce grandma and the guys who say, you know, this is not even a real thing. Should they not do anything? The point is that cops should follow the letter of the law. And I believe that this is ambiguous, though. I think this is ambiguous.

I believe that we're going to come to a place where we find out that they should have never done this according to the Constitution. Just really quick. But we agree. But just really quick. We agree. What happened to grandma was wrong. You're saying it's the governor's fault. I'm saying it's the mechanics of how the system worked.

I think she's wrong. Some people think that it's right. But we at least agree what happened to Grandma with the lockdown. It's absolutely right. I think it's wrong. I think they should shut down. No business. I want to have a conversation about this, but let's do the member segment where we can get more in-depth.

And we've got to do Super Chats, too. So I want to make sure we can – we we have a ton of super chats now pouring in in light of recent events let me just tell you guys like we have a whole bunch of stories we had uh um djokovic the the tennis player in australia oh yeah didn't get to any of it because cops walk in the middle of the show and then i get up and i'm like running downstairs what's going on and so uh topical though brandon's here with the police officer knowledge. Well, this led to an interesting conversation and debate which I found civil and eye-opening for the general public. I think there's a lot of points I want to make too, but we should get to the super chats because otherwise we'll go a little bit – we'll go too long.

And some people want to talk about civil asset forfeiture and all that stuff. So we'll have a lot to talk about in that member segment. But for the time being, smash that like button. Subscribe to this channel where the next time we get swatted, we have a room camera that will show you the police walking in. I'm actually really surprised. I'm like, I see the cops walking. We're all looking at each other. Luke, you were talking, right?

Yeah, I was talking. I looked up. His eyes got wide, too. I thought it was a friend of yours that just came in to say hi, and he was like, oh, I'm sorry. Is that Posobiec? Who is that? I was trying to guess who it was.

He was a cop. He's wearing body armor and a uniform. Yeah, he had a body camera on, and I was like, this is going to seem to be a little more than a friend. I want that body camera footage. Maybe we can put it on the website. Oh, yeah. You should get it.

You can 4U request it. Oh, yeah? Oh, cool. Do you think they might just give it to us right away, though? Yeah. Let's do it. It's not a crime. It's not a crime to commit, so there's no investigation.

Right. There's no investigation. Well, kind of, but it's not like a murder where they have to go through they probably wrote a report which we need to know all the details about which we should uh and you do that immediately you have a right to obtain the 9-1-1 call so you get like let's get the 9-1-1 call absolutely because we might recognize the voice because we might know exactly who did this so let's let's make sure we're on that, ASAP. All right, let's read some super chats.

We got Hendrick here. He says, are you aware that the Mexican state of Baja, California, enacted NYC-style proof-of-jab requirements in order to enter private businesses? I did not, but that's absolutely ridiculous. The president of Mexico has made very strong statements against the mandates, against the lockdowns, and it looks like some people are acting totally differently on that specific section of Mexico, which is very strange because, again, the president of Mexico made very strong statements against Big Pharma, which I absolutely agreed with.

And to see this happening in Mexico is kind of sad. So a lot of people have super chatted that apparently Tucker Carlson had Ted Cruz on. Did you see this? I'm seeing, yeah, people are chatting that he's getting slam dunked. And he was like, it was a mistake. I shouldn't have said it. It was an accident. And Tucker's like, you're a liar. And he's even more of a punk. Yeah, I know, right?

Fess up to it, dude. You said it. Fess up to it. All right. Brent Saigan says, Hey Tim, not sure if you remember, but you helped bully my brother Grant a few months ago into getting an account with Timcast. Anyways, it's my 21st birthday today, so that's fun. Wishing you all the best. Also have Luke say my last name.

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But after one year, no one has been charged with insurrection. That's the scary part. This is the part that I feel like is balancing in that constitutional thing. Why are people still detained if nobody's been charged? How long can you lawfully detain somebody for something that they haven't? It's like due process. I mean, you would think that you would. Now, I could be wrong because the letter of the law may say something different and this is a caveat that we are getting exposed to but you can't detain somebody in for a period longer than reasonable before they have due process and have their time in courts but these people i guess have been in

the hole for a year i'll be honest i haven't read the the national defense authorization act or the patriot act in full but i think well there's different ones the impetus is that you're allowed to indefinitely detain someone if they're suspected of terrorism there's a provision in within that yeah yeah but which which is a problem because you see trump came out and he came out against these people in january 6th all these politicians who are coming out against people in january 6th are responsible and to a certain degree of the reason why these people are still down there being detained. When a lot of them didn't even, I mean, I don't think that they did any violence. There's no evidence.

Well, I mean, I can't say there's no evidence. Are they detaining people who just walked in? They did not charge. Yeah, absolutely. They just walked in. There are people who engaged in violence. Which I saw. And arrested and prosecuted.

But a lot of these people were, the doors were open. The cops are taking selfies with them, and now they're getting months in jail. They've been in jail for some people for solitary for like eight months. What is it now? It's a year almost. Yeah, and I think that,

I mean, that's why I didn't go down there. I was upset about it, but I didn't go down there because I know what the law is. You can't just storm the Capitol in our country. You just can't. It's also meaningless.

Like, what do they think was going to happen? Yeah. You want to storm and do what? Yeah. Y'all have nothing to do. You're not going to do anything. So what's the point of doing it? I don't think that they should be held in detention.

But the law is the law, man. If you want to take it there, you got to take it there and receive what's going to come after it. Just like Martin Luther King, when they did sit-ins, they got arrested. I want to argue more because lawful does not mean moral. what's going to come after it. Just like Martin Luther King, when they did sit-ins, they got arrested. They took that. I want to argue more because lawful does not mean moral and a lot of atrocities in this world and throughout history were lawful.

We'll get into that. But we'll talk about that later. That's actually a really good point I want to talk about. We got this here from Gunner. He says, I'm Gen Z and my generation is stupid. There are probably other Zoomers here

that would agree with me. It's such blatant idiocracy that's becoming more surreal. It's exactly what they wanted. Gunnar, I think you're right, but it's not as bad as you think. A Pew Research poll found that Gen Z is actually the first generation in 100 years to be slightly more conservative than the previous generation. What's the age of Gen Z? What are they like?

Younger than we are. Was it like 95? Yeah. Born in 95 and up or something like that? So I'll just say this uh so gen z actually could be fair you know fairly old like late 20s at this point uh millennials are more active online and they're protected online i'm sorry i'm sorry um woke people so be it gen z or millennials they're more likely in my opinion to be active on the internet to be protected when

they say insane things and the corporate media protects them and puts out their message. So that's why they try to censor. That's why they try to hide dislike accounts. They want you to think you're alone. They want you to think that they're the majority when they are not. Seriously, look up the Pew Research study that talks about the political leanings of generations. And while Gen Z is almost identical to millennials in terms of their political

positioning they're in some areas slightly to the right like a tiny bit but that is huge because throughout the past several generations it always flows left and the left has been very proud of that something changed and i think it has to do with um uh parenting and and child rearing conservatives were more likely to have kids in the tooth in the early two thousands. So that means 22 year olds today, 21 year olds, there's going to be more conservatives than liberals because liberals were having 1.5 kids and conservatives were having 2.01 kids. I did this whole thing researching the birthing rates in the year 2000. So there you go. Born in the year 2000, 22 years old today. That's crazy.. That's crazy. We're very old people in this room. Don't say that. We're going to be farting dust soon.

Yeah, farting dust, man. All right, let's see. Let's try and grab another good super. We have so many super chats. I'm sorry we can't get to all of them. Nice. Very exciting night. What's up, guys? All right. You know what? I'm reading this one. Moneybag says, Tim, have you looked into flat or convex earth? Very thought-provoking.

That'd be awesome to have Eric Dubé or Dave Wyson, Elite Lie, why not on this? I've certainly read a lot of the flat Earth stuff, and I find it funny. And wow. Just, I'm sorry, man. The Earth is not flat. Ian, where are you on this? I want to know where Ian stands on this. I used to think of Earth as a sphere.

Now I think of it more as kind of an amorphous bubble that's kind of changing shape like the sun. If you look at it with a telescope, it's kind of bubulous. I like this convex Earth that maybe it's like a discus that's kind of pulsing like that, kind of ovular. The convex Earth theory is that the Earth is a bowl. I don't go that far. I don't think that there's any flat. I think that comes from ancient history, like ancient stories, and now people are kind of getting a jive out of bringing it back up again. I got to stop you on the sphere thing.

The reason I find this so ridiculous is that we've known this for millennia. The Earth is on the back of a giant turtle drifting through space. With elephants. Obviously. Duh. The Earth is like a little wart on some other person. I watched one guy who said he went on a plane with a leveler, and then he was like, if the earth is round, then the plane should dip down to go with the curvature, which means the leveler will change. And then he time lapsed it.

He's like, see, it didn't. And it's just like, oh, jeez. Yeah, I don't know if the plane would do that. It would just stay – it would just coast around like this. He thought that the plane would go to the edge of the earth and then have to have to turn down, have to like actually go down because gravity doesn't work. For some reason, some guys said that the work, you know, like if I said if the earth stopped, people will continue to fly like thousands of miles per hour. I'm going to have dreams about a couple hundred miles. Talking about this tonight, by the way.

Yeah, that's weird. I mean, I want to what's the obsession with flat earth? Like, I mean, I don't get it. Like, who cares? I think it's another form of psychosis. What does it matter? I'm going to buy this tonight, by the way. Yeah, that's weird. I mean, what's the obsession with flat earth? I mean, I don't get it. Who cares? I think it's another form of psychosis. What does it matter? It's interesting to talk about anything, but people are lashing onto weird, weird stuff like that. That's a weird one.

Talk about 9-11. Cool. Let's talk about facts. But that's like, I don't know. I've never seen any evidence for it. All right, let's read some more. We got Raisin. He says, get badge numbers.

File a police report. Reach out. Tell me how to reach out to y'all in my InfoSec company. Help you find who made that call. Cheers. And thank God y'all are okay. Yeah, my phone's been blowing up. I tweeted out as soon as it happened.

A lot of people were watching when it happened, and everybody's fine. It wasn't the apocalypse. Swatting often is like they're in suits, and they've got rifles, and they're like, everybody on the ground. Police departments have grown from that. When I was a police officer, we went through training about SWATing. We're also in the middle of nowhere. So they're probably like... They don't probably have

a SWAT team around here. But not only that, they're probably thinking if some dude's in his shack and did do this, like... We have time. Yeah, we have time. There's nobody around. You know, sometimes I wake up in the morning and I hear gunshots going off and i'm just like sipping my coffee and i'm like like the neighbors shooting again it's not chicago yeah i know it's well you do hear gunshots in chicago when i'm when i'm growing up in a kid and i hear gunshots and i'm sitting there

sipping my coffee i'm like oh the gangs are shooting each other again. And then a bullet come through your coffee mug. It shatters. And you're like, I got a new mug. But for different reasons, we don't care. Yeah, sometimes we hear like it sounds almost like full auto because so many people are shooting. Bangs in the distance and the birds fly away. It's the sound of freedom, man.

But that's why I think the cops are probably like, something did happen. They didn't seem too. He's not going anywhere. They didn't seem too intense when they came in here. They were kind of like lost a little bit. I'm pretty sure they were lost. They didn't know where they were at. The one cop like fanned me over, and I was just like, I was like, nope.

What? I was like, we got cameras on and live, and I'm like, this is the worst possible time to do something like this. But I had no idea what it was about. Yeah. I knew it was right away when I knew you didn't know him I said somebody must have swiped luckily I got a message that

everything was fine as soon as everything was going down so well when I talked to the crew everybody did everything right so I'm really proud of the team but people need to understand I tweeted this this is like an office so there's like what a dozen employees here right now it's not a house see if it I mean it is a house but like when you

walk in you're like oh it's an office you know what i mean yeah you can clearly see that this is what you're doing here but so if this was like a small house if people if you this is a crazy thing like imagine the daily wire got swatted and they show up to this big building they're gonna be like knocking the door and there's a receptionist and you're like we have a receptionist too so i'm sure they show up and they're just like, there's all these employees all over the place. There's the work going on. As soon as they saw that, they're probably like, okay. Yeah, normally what they would do is

they would call if it's during the daytime. The dispatcher will call the number for Daily Wire and say, are you guys experiencing an emergency there? And then they'll be done with it. All right, Luke's mom says, Tim, you may be getting bracketed. You may want to set up security while streaming. Those who may want to do harm are watching you right now.

Give less specifics. No, I understand all that. And I will tell you guys this. I don't mention this very often, but we're armed. Of course we are. And so people have mentioned that on the show. Without getting into too much detail,

when we've had other contentious guests, I've seen comments where they're like yo tim strapped like you guys know this right yeah we're in the middle of nowhere and i talk about how the fact like we're we're like crazy 2a people but we're also very um very safe with with with firearms so it's like not like we just have guns lying around or anything crazy like that but we're armed and we're prepared especially considering the amount of crazy people who threaten us and harass us and the death threats and all that stuff. Absolutely. I mean that's why I said I was like we were very lucky nothing happened and everything was calm and the officer was calm and no one got hurt.

Because, again, the SWATs are horrible and they do injure and kill a lot of people accidentally. So our front door, we've like – it's not like a house door closed and like bolted locked. You can walk up and there's like a clear glass door like an office. Like it's a screen door. But like when we have – I guess what I'm trying to say is when you have like an office building and you can see through the door and everything, it's very similar. You walk up. You can see through the window. You can see there's a desk with a receptionist and there's a computer.

So they're not walking into some crazy if they're not kicking any doors if this was if we were the only people in here that would have been a big problem because just to say i went downstairs i just run downstairs to grab something and they come in the house and boom and i'm coming down the stairs and they i don't know they're there they don't know who i am i'm dressed in all black they may they may get spooked and shoot me that's funny because right before they came in here, I was about to run to the bathroom, like run fast downstairs. I could just run by.

They encountered all other people first. And the crazy thing is often when Ian runs to the bathroom, he grabs the master sword from Zelda and swings it wildly. Everyone out of the way. And screams. All right. Let's see. Dragon Lady says, man, what could have happened if the cops had walked in

when you were showing your freaking antique non-working gun to someone bad ish could go down yeah it could i could very well see a cop just getting spooked man just open a door you got a gun and i can see it happening even if they even if they know like you know what the show is especially if they know that that we live and work here, because then they're going to be like, oh, man, we know Tim Poole is obviously a guy who's probably going to get targeted. There's a good chance there's a threat here. You know what I mean? We've got to FOIA everything.

Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, easy. That's easy. That's easy. Did you get the badge numbers from them? No, no. But they may have.

I'm trying to run down. That's easy. That's easy. Did you get the badge numbers from them? No, no. But they may have. Yeah. I'm trying to, like, run down. They seem like, you know, it's probably a very small agency around this area. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And I've talked to them before. I've talked to them before. Yeah, it'll be fine. You have the right to forward all that stuff.

It would be good to get to meet the person who runs the district here, the sergeant, lieutenant. That's a good idea. Just get in contact with them because you may need them at some point. More so than calling 911. You may need to contact them directly. Right. And we've actually talked with security companies and stuff like that.

Laughing Dog says, how you like world government now, Tim? Fun stuff, eh? Yeah. Fun stuff. I mean, you've got on the one side, like we've already said now three times, if someone really was hurt here, these guys come running in full speed to make sure we're okay. I can respect that. The one time that you may not want to share with other people,

but you would want to find out is how long did it take them to get here after the 911 call happened? I've got to be honest, I bet it took a long time. Well, who knows? I mean, look, I say it over and over again. We're in the middle of nowhere, and we're armed. So I'm willing to bet that it took them a while. Probably not as long as when I was in Miami or anything like that. They're probably going fast, though.

You know, I know. I used to go fast. We're in the middle of nowhere, though. I know. But they may be roaming around in the middle of nowhere. I mean, this certainly took over the show. Multiple cars. Obviously, five people wouldn't have come in one car. So mean, this certainly took over the show. Multiple cars. Obviously, five people wouldn't come in one car.

So they brought. Right. Yeah. They come from very different directions. Ponton says you can get you can get a direct line from the cops to a phone that glows red when it rings and sits right in front of you during the show. Can we make Freedom Day about taking back the narrative to procedure what it is? Temporary symptom reducer. I'm very into the public interacting with the police,

like private company. Maybe not, but I want to somehow help the police force with private enterprise without creating a private police force. Just make the environment easier and better for them to work somehow. I like to do it when I drive. I'm always being as safe as I can, as if I'm a cop, like making sure everyone's okay so that they don't have to. So I want to do that with our drive. I'm always being as safe as I can as if I'm a cop, like making sure everyone's okay so that they don't have to. So I'm going to do that with our organization.

That'd be cool. Triumph says, man, when I hear and listen to the rock and a hard place these cops are put in, I'm super happy. I'm a garbage man. Holy crap. And I can respect that. That's why I've never been like, all cops are bad, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, hey hey they're human beings man it's hard man it's hard dude it's hard to think about okay if i do this i'm gonna lose my pension

some of these officers i don't know those guys look kind of young but you got a guy with 25 years on 28 years on and he want to be a hero today and lose his whole pension you know you gotta think man the sacrifice the cops make for 28 years putting your family through all that they don't know if you're gonna live or die every day when i was when i was working i didn't know if i was gonna die every day every day it's like okay i made today made it today made it today i didn't die today i mean you don't know any day you could be dead over anything i mean a traffic violation or somebody could run a red light and hit you when you retired did you miss the exhilaration of that yeah because the adrenaline rush every day is out of control so you can't replicate that you know when you're on duty man your adrenaline is because you

get a call like this two people shot and murdered or something one guy's on the phone they can hear people screaming in the background like dude that's a that you know you feel something in your in you that cannot be replicated we got uh He says, leftists on the surfs on Twitch told me you guys are dangerous personalities. I mean, I don't know who those guys are. If you mean like stunningly, attractively dangerous. Yeah. Like dangerous in the sense that if you're a tyrant or a fascist, you better watch out. These people are dumb.

Because we'll expose you. These people are nuts. We're just having a basic conversation. How is this dangerous? Won't they have a conversation no no see if you are part of the cult we are very dangerous we had marjorie taylor green on the show and you know what people said we had a ton of super chats where people were like i thought she was crazy until i heard her talk about you know what she thinks and what she does same thing with steve bannon yeah that's why they view us as dangerous because the lies and the smears that keep people in the cult, we break. You're right.

They probably think you say stuff on here and think you're crazy. I mean that's always how it is. When people talk to me or when I see people in person or I'm in an event live and people question me that are dissenters or whatever, they never – I mean they always leave like, I like you, man. You're cool. I didn't know you were like – I watched the surfs before.

They're pretty cool. So I bet that's kind of out of context. No, they rag on us often. But it's like a fun kind of rag. I don't watch their show. It seemed like they love ragging on us. All right. Sure.

Whatever. When I say I don't know them, I'm not familiar with what their show format is or who they are as people or their names or anything like that. I just know that we get those kind of comments. A couple of dudes, I think. They just want to sleep with you. They're just trying to date me, man. Alright, you guys. The Life of D says, ironically, you had Marjorie Taylor Greene on yesterday.

Today you're getting swatted. I'm just pointing out events in order, not drawing conclusions. The real question is, what did she tell you about Hillary? Gotta watch the after show. Not not enough that was a good one all right let's grab some more super chats waffle sensei says brandon you said if a cop sees someone kill a pedo do they get to choose whether to arrest that person yeah retton house shot a pedo and he wasn't arrested the cops have

the discretion. No, that's not true. You've got to develop probable cause. Because Kyle Rittenhouse, they didn't really have all the context of what actually happened. They know people were shot. He came over to the police. I don't think they knew who was the wrong wrong or not. I don't think they even knew someone got shot at that point.

And they don't know the guy's a pedo anyway. They hear shots. People are down. They don't know who shot who. They don't know if it's someone got shot at that point. And they don't know the guys are pedo anyway. They just, they hear shots. People are down. They don't know who shot who. They don't know if it's a self-defense or not. And so it wasn't a discretionary decision. They didn't have probable cause to arrest him, which you can't arrest anybody unless you have probable cause.

And if you arrest them without probable cause, all of that evidence goes away and you are probably going to get fired. Never be a cop again. Deservingly so. Just Jimmy says, FOIA request info about officers that came and any info you can get about call. Absolutely. gonna get fired and there'll be a cop again deservingly so just jimmy says for your request info about officers that came and any info you can get about call absolutely and then we'll publish it yeah we will especially the phone call i want to listen to that voice because who knows maybe we know who it is like i had crazy things throughout my career where people called me

like one o'clock in the morning and i remember recording them and then i remember that person who was harassing me over the years, calling my family, getting these numbers, was actually a part of my organization in New York City. And I had the recording, and I played it back right in front of this person who was infiltrating my organization and just harassing me. And that was a huge wake-up call. So there's a lot of weird people out there. There's a lot of crazy people out there.

So just having this information is key. And make sure if you go to 4U request and they say it's under investigation, they can't release it, maybe you can go down and view it. They may let you actually view or listen to the phone call without taking possession of it. You know what else I should do? You know what? I'm not going to say it. Don't say it.

Security. Secrets. Perfect. We'll keep that. Our security plan plans a secret so what I was gonna say is Macaulay Culkin style booby traps yes hang some paint cans

from the top of the stairs yes no but you're not it's actually illegal yeah what's a booby trap yeah it's illegal the booby trap stuff

but like you know then the then the cops come in and they burn their you remember I just never that scene

I think that flamethrower or something blue is and he had a beanie like this and it was just a little part. It was a part two. I freaking love

that movie. It was so fun. When I was a kid I used to just watch it. Yeah we watched part two over Christmas.

You have to. You have to man. All right. JJG says Tim why go to New Jersey? You can't bear arms.

Why go to New Jersey? You can't bear arms in Maryland. MD police will arrest you for having a firearm on you which is why I'm for Dems wanting to disarm police if I can't bear arms uh why go to new jersey you can't bear arms in maryland md police will arrest you for having a firearm on you which is why i'm for dems wanting to disarm police if i can't they can't same with self-defense well we're we're we're actually setting up the new uh freedomistan in

west virginia the contracts are in the deposits are in construction is beginning soon and i think maybe in six months we will have the fully operational new facility but that will just be the studio and then we have to actually build out the rest of the open space it's going to be it's going to be amazing i can't believe that we're getting this done it's going to be absolutely incredible i'm not for disarming police by the way i'm for disarming some police i don't think never why uh i think we'd be we if we had some cops who weren't armed for certain jobs, we'd have more versatility. But like what job? Would you not need to be armed as a police officer?

Well, so like it depends on the call, I suppose. If there's like – what's a good example? A barking dog. Well, I don't know about a dog because dogs can be dangerous. No, no, just a barking dog. You don't have to deal with it. It's just a civil complaint of a person saying the dogs are too loud. I'm thinking like businesses, you know, someone's complaining, noise complaints, you know.

But see, let me just give you an example. Barking dog call. That's why I was going to set you up a little bit. But the barking dog call that just happened not too long ago, they went to an apartment complex and the police officers got ambushed and one got murdered while she was begging for her life with her own gun i saw that and it was a barking dog call so it's like you never know like what's what that's why i'm like you know i i i think there are circumstances in which we can have officers who don't need to be armed i'll put it that way i think they should be armed they just need to be proficient i was armed and i never

shot anybody i was on the SWAT team, never shot anybody. You don't have to shoot people. Actually, I'll take this back. I think everybody should be armed. Well, here's a perfect segue into, and I know you got the super chats, but one of the things that I'm into now is that I'm an advisor with a company called Quest Microsystems, and we've developed a nonlethal weapon that you can use in law

enforcement and in personal defense but this is a this is a thing that's important for our society because i would love for a police officer to have a gun and have another qualified weapon that they can use when they get to a call and it's like a man who's loony but he didn't have a weapon non-lethal or less lethal and can we test it out yes let's show show you're gonna show in vegas we'll have them available we'll do a test them out they're non-lethal we'll do a couple more and then we're gonna head over to that member segment we've got a couple uh different super chats that said that we got insurrected by the cops on january 6th and that january 6th will forever be the day that tim castellar was was uh was swatted and that's what we're gonna remember

is that why somebody did that i I don't know. No. So they can rush the podcast? I think it might be Marjorie Taylor Greene. Oh, because she was on here? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe they hate me because I'm a former

president. I don't think it's you. I think maybe they wanted just to see it happen. You know, that's one of the reasons they did it because it's a live show.

Well, with the possibility of someone getting seriously hurt here, I don't think it was anything but to try to cause malicious harm that's my perspective so you know when you have someone like MTG on you generate a lot of attention

obviously the establishment really despises her the activists really hate her I don't think she had anything to do with it in that regard I think it just put us on the radar for a lot of people that's what I agree with because I say they would have done it on a day she was here. That would have made more sense, but also some wacko

saw her on here and now is aware of it. Exactly. Now is aware of the show. I think some people don't understand the seriousness or the severity of swatting. I think some people think, it'd be funny to interrupt the show. They don't think about that it's a felony.

Some kid got like 20 years in prison for swatting. I really could have when someone died. Shot and killed. Barreling through the house full speed past cops and not knowing why they're there and yelling at me to the bathroom. That could have happened. We have a lot to talk about

in regards to, especially that other swatting too. So let's do that over on the member segment. We'll get in depth on policing, debate, the morality, authoritarianism, libertarianism, et cetera. So smash that like button. Subscribe to this channel. Share the show with your friends. What time did it happen?

It was like 8.51-ish. Yeah. So it's possible that it took them like an hour to get here. Maybe they called it in right when the show started. Oh, no way. It took an hour. I don't know if that. Yeah.

But I was like, that's a weird time. Unless they're getting all the five officers together in the different area. Oh, no way. I don't know what that is. Yeah, but I was like, that's a weird time. Unless they're getting all the five officers together in the different area. When I was saying a long time, I was thinking like eight, ten minutes. Yeah, but then I was looking at the time. I was like, I wonder when this was called. Because I know where they are.

Oh, they're nearby. And I know how fast they can go. But because we're in a rural area, if they had the lights on and we're speeding, I'm thinking like eight, ten minutes. Response time is about 15 minutes to a situation. Really? Yep.

In rural areas. Now, I don't know how rural this is compared to places in Texas that I, you know, places that when I grew up in Texas. Average response time is 10 minutes according to a U.S. study released in 2017. But in this area? Well, let's...

All right, all right. We'll do the member assignment. We'll get into the cop stuff. So smash that like button. Subscribe to the show. Share the show with your friends. You can follow the show, TimCast IRL, basically everywhere. Follow us on Instagram.

You can follow me at TimCast on Instagram where I post, I don't know, I don't know, whatever. I post weird garbage, so follow it if you like it. You want to shout anything out, Brandon? No, no, just being black and blue. Being a black cop in the American sea is very proud of the book. Doing very well. They give you insight into law enforcement and also the quest microsystems that I'm a part of, investor. I'm an advisor with them.

It's a publicly traded company, and it's going to take over the landscape of nonlethal weapons in law enforcement and personal defense. Where can people find you if they want to contact you? They can find me at theofficertatum.com. Theofficertatum.com. So I have my own media organization and YouTube channel on We Are Change. I did a full video on exactly what I was talking about when the police officers came in, the history of pandemics and civil unrest. Check out that video if you haven't yet. I also released another video on LukeUncensored.com about the Great Reset.

Hope to see some of you guys there. I'm working my butt off. And, you know, this is we're really in a key, crucial, critical time where we got to do as much work as we can before it's too late. So I want to thank everyone a part of this mission and getting the message out there. Our work, I think, is more important than ever. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you, Luke. Hey, you guys, check me out at IanCrossland.net.

Thanks for coming. I love you. And be good to yourself and your friends. Thank you guys all very much for tuning in for this extra exciting episode of TimCast IRL. This is the kind of high-quality content you can expect from this podcast. I'm just kidding. You don't get this kind of stuff on Rogan, though. I'm just saying.

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