Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #446 - SCOTUS Strikes Down Vax Mandate, Biden Tells States IGNORE SCOTUS w/Matt Kibbe

Episode Date: January 14, 2022

Tim, Ian, Luke, and Lydia join founder of Fight The Power Productions and Free The People Matt Kibbe to break down the Supreme Court's rejection of Biden's vaccine mandate for businesses, Biden's choice to tell businesses to push his mandate anyway, Biden's begging big tech to censor dissent in a terrifying twist, the crumbling US empire and what Trump's movement can do to save it, the January 6th rallygoers being charged with 'seditious conspiracy', the Occupy Democrats page calling for taxes on American citizens who are hesitant about vaccinations against Covid, and Joe Rogan possibly attending the huge anti-mandate rally scheduled in Washington, DC. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In a crushing defeat for Joe Biden, the Supreme Court has ruled that his mandate, vaccine mandate, for private companies is done. It's not going to happen. Now, that's good news, but there still is a bit of a defeat in that some medical workers can still be mandated to get the vaccine, but you win some, you lose some. Now, here's where it gets really funny. Joe Biden, he's calling on states to do the right thing and defy Supreme Court and implement the vaccine mandates anyway. Oh, you got to love Joe Biden. And it's just been really, really crazy with the constant authoritarianism. We've got another funny story too. And I'll just, I won't bury the lead on this one. Newsweek's reporting that Joe Rogan

is going to be in DC for this big protest in about a week or so where they're all protesting against the mandates. And sorry to spoil it for everybody. I have confirmation Joe Rogan will not be going, but we'll talk about that story and we will talk about that protest and the reporting. Here's another crazy one too. The RNC is going to require, supposedly, they're going to require their candidates, potential candidates, to sign a pledge saying they will not participate in presidential debates with the debate commission. So it's crazy, man. What is a crazy day? We also have the Oath Keepers being charged with sedition, seditious conspiracy.

So wow, man. Joining us to talk about all this today is Matt Kibbe. How's it going, man? It's awesome to be here. Do you want to introduce yourself and let people know who you are? Yeah, sure. I am the president of a nonprofit called Free the People, and our mission is to use stories to connect with young people,

the values of liberty with how we live our daily lives, and try to convince them that people working together from the bottom up can do all sorts of beautiful things. I'm also, I run a show at Blaze TV called Could Be On Liberty, and I am a libertarian, hopefully recovering. Recovering libertarian. You want to just aim the mic a little bit more up? Up like this?

Yeah, there you go. That's perfect. Is that better? Yeah, absolutely. Nobody can see the whiskeys, unfortunately, though. I'm like looking at the camera. Unless we do the wide shot. We got Luke.

Hey, guys. So, as I become older and that much wiser, I like to give unsolicited life advice. And that's why I made this t-shirt that says, people will forget your words, people will forget your accomplishments, but no one will forget that you voted for Joe Biden. And I think it's a very important message that you could also spread by going to the best

political shirts.com it always starts a lot of interesting conversation it gets people laughing and if i could do that i'll be happy thanks for having me that is a really good shirt it literally gets everyone everyone's like like wait wait this is some kind of cheesy, basic, be motivational quote. No. No, we're just making it funny for Joe Biden. Exactly. Nice. Hi, everyone.

Ian Crossland over here. Happy to be here. Ian Crossland.net. Check it out. And let's keep it moving. That's right. I am also here. I think, yes, we have the wide shot here.

Here we have all our whiskeys in front of Matt. He's going to be doing a full flight of our whiskey sampler over from the corner, which is going to be really fun to watch during the show. I'm also here pushing all the buttons in the corner. Hi, nice to see everybody. I've always dreamed of doing a show called Drunk Austrian Economics, so tonight might be the night. Tonight's the night. Yes. All right. Before we get started, head over to TimCast.com and become a member in order

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is blocked by the Supreme Court. The court wrote the Occupational Safety and Health Administration was not permitted to broadly regulate public health. I agree. I think they're correct. They wrote, requiring the vaccination of 84 million Americans selected simply because they work for employers with more than 100 employees certainly falls in the latter category

where they said, although Congress has indisputably given OSHA the power to regulate occupational dangers, it has not given the agency the power to regulate public health more broadly. The dissent, I find actually kind of humorous. In the dissent, the liberal justices wrote, because it really was split six to three, when we are wise, we know not to displace the judgments of experts acting within the sphere of Congress marked out and under presidential control to deal with emergency conditions. Today, we are not wise. In the face of a still raging pandemic,

the court tells the agency charged with protecting worker safety that it may not do so in all of the workplaces needed. As disease and death continue to mount, this court tells the agency that it cannot respond in the most effective way possible.

Well, there it is. And the Daily Wire is doing a victory lap because they were leading the charge on this. They were, I think one of the, I think they may have been the original lawsuit. I'm not sure. But here we go. That's it. Joe Biden's out. No vaccine mandate, right? I think Brandon wants to be a dictator. So this is definitely a step back for him. But he's also urging businesses and states to still implement this on their own. I'm surprised he wasn't begging the Supreme Court just to censor

all the arguments here against his vaccine mandate. This is a major blow against his agenda, against the narrative. And thank goodness we don't live in a country like Canada or Austria or Australia, where people are literally being robbed of their wealth for not complying with the whims and medical advice. And then still, you know, by and large, it's still crazy. I bet you probably agree with this too, Matt, that we have to be in a place where, you know, some mystical figures in robes decided that we could decide what medicine to take for ourselves. That's where we're at right now.

That's crazy. It was insane. And I was freaking out today because earlier in the day, everyone expected this to come out. And then they released some other nothing burger decision about something that I don't even remember what it was. And I'm like, oh, shit, are they going to punch for a week? And happily, they did the right thing. for a state or someone further down the food chain, a different government official to then impose on you this mandate that you have to take this vaccine. I'm of the old school where

individual freedom and freedom of conscience is actually a real thing. And I thought that's what America was. But yeah, we dodged a bullet today. And that was a cool thing. I ascribe to a theory that Thomas Massey introduced me the day that Joe Biden announced this. And you remember, they dragged their heels on the rule. And Massey's theory was, they know it's unconstitutional. They know that they're going to get shot down. But in the meantime, they're going to bully as many businesses as possible into complying with this. And I feel like Biden is proving that theory today. You can't un-vax. Yeah.

And so what happens is a ton of businesses, when they heard Joe Biden issue his press conference, which was not even executive order, they just went, okay, everybody, you got to do it. You heard Joe Biden. And then people were basically mandated to do it. Now they went and got vaccinated. They come back to work and the company goes,

hey, everybody, it's off. We actually don't have the we don't have to do this too late. Yeah. So I think that was the plan from the get go. And I feel like and maybe we'll get into this in a different context. But I feel like if you were forced to get vaccinated, maybe secretly you want to kind of force everyone else to do it, too, because you're pissed like you got you got sold a bill of goods. Yeah, I certainly think that's true. I mean, you take a look at, we talked about this last night, vaccine mandates don't work. And when I say they don't work, what I mean is

in New York City, I think they had the first vaccine mandate. They have skyrocketing COVID cases. So whatever the point of this policy is, it's certainly not stopping or abating the spread of COVID. But yet still, you hear these Democrats and these city politicians say it is working. Why? It's forcing people to get vaccinated. It's not stopping COVID. It's just forcing. They call that working.

So it sounds to me like they're like, I don't care why you do it. Just do it. I don't care what the results will be. Just do it. The culture of compliance, right? Yeah. That sounds like extortion to me just just a little bit there but there was also another ruling specifically with health care workers at facilities who are receiving medicare and medicaid funds which was ruled against them which means that people who are working in these facilities will have to take the vax or lose their jobs at a key time where already Seattle and Los Angeles hospitals there have announced that if they have nurses and doctors who have tested positive for COVID that they need to come back into work.

That is absolutely insane. Seattle and Los Angeles also implemented vaccine passports for their employees in the medical staff. And now we're having COVID positive patients, excuse me, COVID positive nurses and doctors literally go back to work dealing with other people inside of hospitals all in the name of what? Safety and security and health. Yeah, sure. Well, think about Medicare and Medicaid. So Medicare serves seniors over 65 who would be most vulnerable to COVID and most susceptible to ending up in the hospital. Medicaid, of course, serves poor people.

So the effect of this, most hospitals take these programs, but some don't. But the effect of this is to specifically understaff hospitals that are serving seniors and people that are struggling to make ends meet. That's what they're doing. This is how government works. They're using government health care now and telling people they're going to take away their health care if they don't follow the government's orders. Well, the logic was if we're paying for it, we being the federal government, we get to tell you what to do with your body. So welcome to government run medicine. This is how

it works. They own you and they decide what you do have to do, but they also decide what you don't get to do, like Joe Biden has nationalized monoclonal antibodies. Yeah. Oh, when did that happen? They're trying to shut that down, I'm hearing. Yeah. So I was actually recently told by a medical worker that they were told monoclonal antibodies no longer work and that they're not to recommend them. And that, to me, is insane.

Well, it's just me personally. Look, we always tell everybody we're not here to give medical advice, and that's like a big topic because of so much of what's going on in the pandemic. Go talk to a doctor and see what they say about it because I'm being told that they're starting to pull monoclonal antibodies. Well, I had a friend who was sick with COVID-19, and they were having a very serious case of it. Some of the early preliminary data is highlighting how some of the antibodies don't work,

but there is one specific antibody that does work with Omicron. But for Delta, a lot of them do work by a broad basis. This is just, again, some of the preliminary early findings. I'm not a medical doctor. I'm not here giving you any kind of medical advice, but it has been siphoned off. And my friend who was trying to get antibodies for herself and her husband because they weren't doing too well was told because of Biden, because of the governor in New York, you can't get them. And there was even an article in the Daily Mail that said whites need not apply for critical COVID care, for antibody care, because of their skin color,

as, of course, they're also passing laws in many places, like in New York, where if you were born a specific skin color, you're denied access to medicines compared to other people because of their skin color. Remember death panels? Yes. I mean, yeah. What was that? That was back in, like, 2008? That was, like, fear-mongered techniques of Obamacare that there's going to be government-run

health care and the government's going to decide who lives and dies. Is that wrong? That was the story. It's not wrong. Was that wrong? It's exactly how it works. Yeah. I know this very personally.

My wife, Terry, got COVID over Christmas. And okay, I'm going to get monoclonal antibodies. And it turns out that they pulled two of three types of monoclonals off the market. The Biden administration did. Because the assumption was they work on Delta, but they don't work on Omicron. And so they pulled all of these things away from the hospital. So in our case, we couldn't get treatment for my wife. She's fine now, but she would have done better with them. And then it turns out that, you know,

we thought it was all Omicron, but it's not really all Omicron. There's a lot of Delta out there. And it's sort of a lesson in how single top-down decision-making works in government. They just arbitrarily said, you know what? It looks like Omicron now. Well, it wasn't. And catastrophically, someone at the margin probably died because of this government decision. We don't know who that is, but someone could have gotten treatment. And some bureaucrat in the Biden administration said, you know what? We're not going to let you. I think there's no one here who's a fan of centralized command control, economic structures or governmental structures, right? No. You know, in the military, when it comes to military, I understand the need for authoritarian top-down generalship.

That's fair point, though. I agree with that. That's why we have an executive structure because when we've got to move fast in emergencies, it does make sense. But we're at this point now where too much is being absorbed by this executive authority. It can't be total control of our medical system in one place. The FDA is also intercepting packages with medicines that some people are using to help treat this. So when you have the government outright intervening in such egregious ways and you see the result of it with more people being hurt, it really, really should leave a lot of people with the questions. What are they doing here other than making the situation that much worse for everyone else?

As you said, the FDA was intercepting packages with specific medications that have been a big topic of debate. Obviously, these are the medications that Joe Rogan has talked about before. I don't even want to name them because of the kind of hot blood. I came across a video on Twitter where apparently there's been a bunch of thefts of train packages in L.A. I don't know if you guys saw this on the scanner. They heard about it. They went down there, and it's like just ripped open packages of Amazon packages, boxes, COVID tests, fishing lures, EpiPens. Crazy.

Is it piracy? I don't know. This is what crossed my mind as you were saying that are people being privateering these stuff back back to what we were talking about i wanted to uh get back to that point about executive authority and the need for you know emergency response my view of emergency response is there's an agency that says okay we're going to go to these local communities that are affected by a pandemic and ask them what they need and we can do that very very quickly because we have the authority to respond rapidly, but not to dictate what the communities have to do,

not to go to local mayors and say, you're now mandated to do this. So when you look at, here's what I love about mask mandates, especially. We work on the border with Frederick County and I think Washington County in Maryland. And so you can like walk 10 feet and there's a building with a mask mandate and then walk 10 feet and there's one without, and it just literally makes no sense. And then the crazier thing is the further, the further out you get from the center of the county, the less likely you are to even experience the mask mandate, which it just does not work. But then they want to start punishing businesses and finding them. And it's just like, look, being able to rapidly respond to a crisis by showing up with

resources, you can spend money, you have people working under you and you can say, here's what needs to be done. Makes sense. But if you go to a community, you ask them what they need. You don't tell them what to do, you know? Yeah. I mean, that's the dream. But the problem is there's a fatal conceit when you give these guys that much power. They have their own theory about how to do it. And the most disturbing example of this we all know is Andrew Cuomo overruling nursing home providers. Murdering 15,000 people. Murdering 15,000 people. He probably thought he was doing the right thing. He probably thought he knew better than them. And the problem with governments using local knowledge is that arrogance.

They don't want to cede the fact that they don't know because that's political danger for them. I disagree with Andrew Cuomo not thinking he was doing the right thing, though. I understand your point. I agree with that. But Cuomo had the Mercy medical vessel and the Javits Center. And he was like, I'm not giving Trump a victory. Kill the old people. He was warned.

Cuomo was warned. If you do trump a victory kill the old people he he was warned cuomo was warned if you do this you will kill old people and he said instead of using the under the the javits center which is only at a third capacity or the mercy vessel which isn't being used at all i'm gonna kill the old people and he did or the central park hospital that was there that had received no one i mean you could even facetiously say that he was on the phone with his brother at CNN being like, hey, we need more of those deaths to boost up ratings, as of course there's CNN officials literally bragging about how they were happy, how more people were dying, because it was gangbusters

for ratings, which is absolutely absurd. So again, that's facetious. It's sensationalistic to say that, but it's not out of the realm of possibility, but how they've been behaving. Man, this is the kind of stuff that makes me want to do sketch comedy, because you can't do it on YouTube, but you'll be able to do it on Rumble. Yeah. Where you just have Chris Cuomo call up Andrew, and he'll be like, Chris, my show's not doing too well. We need more deaths.

What can you do for me? He's like, well, little brother. I got you. I got you. We'll just kill a bunch of old people. It's meant to make fun of them for as bad of people as they are. But Andrew Cuomo knew what he was doing. And people come out.

It was standard protocol. This is why there's such a big kind of talk about conspiracy of him being outed. Because if he got hit with that, if he was responsible for that, so would a lot of other Democratic governors in Michigan, in New Jersey, who would have been held responsible for. And that's why there's conspiracy talk of Andrew being kind of taken out. So there wasn't any kind of possibility of him facing any justice for that specific cause because it would implicate all these other governors that were Democratic, that were following orders from the federal government that was telling him to do this. Let's talk about Joe Biden. So in this report from the Daily Mail, they mentioned that the Supreme Court has voted 63 to block Biden's vaccine mandates. However, a disappointed Joe will tell businesses to adopt the rules anyway and says it's up to states to do the right thing. Biden has urged businesses to

bring in vaccine mandates on their own and push states to do the right thing after the Supreme Court voted 63 to block his sweeping rules on private companies in a crushing blow to his pandemic response. The high court did, however, allow a vaccine mandate for employees at health care facilities receiving federal dollars to go into effect. Now, there's an important distinction here. Joe Biden is saying ignore the Supreme Court in a certain sense. The Supreme Court did not rule that vaccine mandates are completely illegal. The Supreme Court ruled that Joe Biden doesn't have the authority through OSHA to mandate businesses require vaccinations. So Joe Biden comes out and says,

then it's up to you guys to implement these because I can't force you to do it. Now, you know what I think is going to happen? I think the blue states and I think all the big companies are going to do it anyway. Fortunately, though, it means I guess like the Daily Wire won't have to. Well, they're going to try to do it, but there's also a very interesting article also from the Daily Mail talking about how a lot of the cases are flatlining in a lot of these major democratic states. And if this goes along with the theory that I've been talking about and many other medical professionals have been talking about for a few weeks now, there should be a sharp decline in the numbers, just like we have seen in South Africa. I might be wrong on that assessment and that theory, but if that's the case, they're

going to have a hard justification for more lockdowns, more mandates. And I think this is their kind of last push. And I think this is a major setback against their agenda. And I don't see it going further from here from my perspective. It's kind of a dilemma for businesses because on the one hand, they're dealing with employees, some of whom are Karens, right? They want that vaccine mandate and they want double masking and they're scared to death. But there's other employees that say, I'm not going to do it and you're going to lose me. And those may well be some of their most important employees. But you have the chief executive officer of the United States saying, I got an offer for you that you can't refuse. And if you say no, I'm going to send some of these agencies to check out your stuff and make

sure that you're in full compliance with OSHA, full compliance with this. There are so many rules and regulations that every company in America is surely violating right now because they couldn't possibly know what they are. Biden still has the ability to make their lives hell. And what I think a lot of the big corporations wanted was the cover of being forced to do it by the government. And now they're stuck in this place and they're going to discover that they're going to lose a lot of their talent if they push forward. I got to tell you, I can certainly sympathize and empathize with a lot of these businesses because there are people who won't admit when they get sick because they're like, no, no, no, I'm not sick. Everything's fine. And then they'll come into work and they'll get people sick. You also have managers who are like, I don't care if you're sick. I don't want

my boss to yell at me. You better show up for work. And so then you have these executives who are like, how do we stop people from doing this? And they're like, well, we can mandate a vaccine, I guess. I'm not convinced vaccine mandates are going to solve the problem. So ultimately, I can empathize with the problem of people spreading COVID, and then your company gets shut down. I get it. We had to take off for a week because we got sick, and I can see why people are worried about that. But I think we have to realize we're living with this. Yeah, well, you've got to define the problem. What's the problem today?

Overloading the hospitals? That was the problem two and a half years ago. That's a good point. How do we solve that? Obviously, the vaccine may reduce symptoms, but it doesn't seem to stop the spread. It doesn't seem to stop people from getting it. I think people are going to the hospital after they've been vaccinated so you're looking to solve the problem that that solution didn't seem to solve it well that's a that's a good question what's the problem i don't think

there really is one labor shortages supply chain problems financial but no no that's that's a great point because it's that's not covet related anymore yeah and then why are why is the ap telling them not to report on single like single case record increases in certain states? What was that all about? Because it seems like they're shifting the narrative from, oh, my gosh, so many people are getting COVID to being more like, well, it's still a problem. We still have to worry about it, but we also have a midterm to win or something. I'm not sure what the strategy is there. So what was the deal with their decision to say you can't talk about these increases, these sharp increases?

You don't remember? They're looking for an exit strategy. And they've been scaring the crap out of people for two years now. And there is no problem. There's certainly not a problem that we can do anything about at this point. I mean, I think we've created a lot of collateral damage. And remember, the think we've created a lot of collateral damage. And remember, the original COVID models said, if you're going to flatten the curve, you're going to push out the pandemic.

And that was always part of the model. And here we are two years into it, and this is an extraordinary virus in its behavior. And I think that all of these central planners who thought they knew better are culpable. So they need an exit strategy. And if we can just tone down the hysteria on the data, planners who thought they knew better are culpable. So they need an exit strategy. And if we can just tone down the hysteria on the data, maybe we can get out of this before the midterm.

I think it's got to be political. Absolutely. I definitely agree with you. We've been talking about it for a few weeks now. And this could be why Jake Tapper said, you know, the hospital numbers are inflated. This is why the CDC came out and said 75% of deaths are because of four or more comorbidities. This is why the New York governor came out and said around 40% of

the hospitalizations are literally people who were there not because of corona but with corona because of other incidences and there's more and more of these announcements. Something is definitely going on here and I think there's definitely a bigger agenda at play here. I figured out Luke's agenda. By saying words like comorbidity, the AI on YouTube can't track the words he's saying to censor it.

You should have seen what I was saying, a specific kind of medication a year ago. I will remember it forever. You guys remember last year. I'm not going to say it here, but there was a specific way I was specifically mentioning stuff. You're developing your own censor-proof language. I'm going to play it off like that, but that's not the case. There's this font that allows people who are dyslexic to read it. Oh, cool.

And it's really interesting because it's got thicker portions on parts of the letters, and I feel like that's kind of like this. Luke will say the word comorbidity, and the AI just goes like, I'm not familiar with this word. I almost had it. It's kind of like, I think, who was it? Was it Leonardo da Vinci wrote in code

because it was illegal the church would have him executed if they knew he was talking about the stuff he was talking about, heliocentric model. I think that was da Vinci. Galileo maybe wrote in code. Wasn't Alice in Wonderland

and through the looking glass? It was meant to be metaphorical. It was supposed to be representing the problems of government and everything like that. Sometimes you got to hide from the algorithm. You meant to be metaphorical it's supposed to be uh representing the problems of government everything like that you gotta hide from the algorithm you gotta slightly move through it it's always been the case wow well regardless of algorithms big tech is a big problem in terms of limiting speech and shutting down dissent and shutting down conversations but uh i i feel at this point with what biden is, I don't know if the Democrats are going to get the message before the midterms. How does Joe Biden come back from the Supreme Court struck down his mandate?

He then double triples down saying, do it anyway. And then we're supposed to we're going to expect Democrats to change their minds in a few months and be like, everyone's free now. Vote for us, because if they keep running on lockdowns, they're going to lose. Yeah. Well, he's got two fundamental problems. One is that the people that were forced to be vaccinated or the people that lost their jobs or the people that are looking at empty grocery shelves are going to show up. And midterms are low turnout elections.

So the midterms are going to be dominated by people that have suffered under the Biden regime. And the other problem, and this goes back to what James Carvell so famously said, it's the economy is stupid. It's going to be very hard to fix what they've done in terms of supply chains, in terms of employment problems, in terms of all these things that people are feeling at the very local level, there's no way to turn that around in time. So I think they're faced with what they're doing is like, let's just keep doubling down and hope for a miracle. But it seems like political suicide to me. Yeah, I agree with you. If people came out of the lockdown and the economy was where it was three years ago, I think it would be fine.

People would be like, cool, Biden all the way. But, dude, they inflated the economy so heavily by like 100% almost. Yeah. Did you see when Kamala Harris got asked if the ticket was going to stay the same and she goes, look, we are focused on today. And I'm like, it's really weird. She couldn't just be like, yeah. You know what I mean? I guess she was like, I know what you're trying to do

with the pundits and the talking points because they're saying, but we are focused on what's happening today. I was just like, just say yes. But the reality is the answer is not yes. It's not going to be Biden. In a few months, they're going to throw away Biden like the Warren puppet that he is. They're going to throw him by the

wayside. He's going to be gone and they're going to bring in someone else. They're is. They're going to throw him by the wayside. He's going to be gone, and they're going to bring in someone else. They're teasing. They're literally teasing Hillary and other people that they're trying to bring to the forefront. Buttigieg is another one. I think it might even be something like Michelle Obama or Oprah.

Who knows what they're doing, but I do not see any way, unless they make clones of him or some kind of GMO creature and put him in the front of us. I don't see how they're going to report it. There is a conspiracy theory they cloned Biden. No joke. Or they replaced him or something. It's silly.

But remember when Barack Obama said to Biden, you don't have to do this? Do you remember that quote? Yep. See, we always assume the context of that quote is you don't need to be the man who who tries to stop donald trump when in reality he was saying like you don't need like it was more of a you don't need to do this yeah like you know you're not qualified yeah you are not qualified for this job what i get and and joe biden listen he hears it and in his mind he's like this hero saving the day and biden's like, you don't need to do that, Joe. Let's go

back to the sunroom and get you your blanket and get you a nap. And Joe was like, true to not a shot, but a pressure. The last desperate throws of George Bush 41 was his staff leaking all of this stuff about how Dan Quayle was the problem. So if you're blaming

your VP for the failure of your presidency, you're probably already done. I don't think they ever planned on Biden going beyond one term. And they can play it up like they did intend for him to be a two-term president. But the reality was, we all know what Joe Biden is. He was the corporeal form that they asked for. Just a warm body that was not Donald Trump. It's like an old episode of Star Wars. Yeah. Star Wars.

Star Trek. Star Trek. They got what they wanted, and now we are all much worse off for it. But if you are a wealthy political elite sitting atop your ivory tower, they're happier that Trump isn't in office, even though everyone else is suffering. So long as they're better off because Trump was a bull rampaging through,

and they don't care about you. I could see if Andrew Yang had gotten into presidency and they were like, we're going to print $5 trillion. He would have been like, nah. And he would have been obstructing all this money printing. So they needed someone like Biden,

who's just like, you got the reins, Anthony Fauci. I absolutely disagree with you. Really? He would give that money to him. He would redistribute that money. I don't know. He'd be like, actually, it does make sense to bolster the economy by printing more money

because everyone will then have money to spend and eat food with, and we should do it. And I actually like Andrew Yang, but I definitely think he would be like print money. But that would have been like $1.2 trillion, not $6 trillion. No, I don't think they enjoy that. Ian, with the way that the government does, they would give everyone money and then give themselves twice as that. He worked for CNN. I have absolutely no faith and trust in that man. I think it's

awesome that $1.2 trillion is considered the fiscally responsible. Spend money to make money. Modern monetary theory is breaking down because we don't have industry in the United States. We're putting all this money into something that's not getting us a return, and the money's disappearing. Sometimes I get really bummed out when the news is like all Joe Biden and all hard policy stuff and SCOTUS. I'm like, where's

that? Where's that matrix? You know, we talked about the matrix and we talk about some cultural stuff, but it's, I I'm sorry, my friends, here we go. From the post millennial Biden begs press and social media to censor misinformation and disinformation from platforms. Quote, I make a special appeal to social media companies and media outlets. He said, please deal with the misinformation and disinformation that's on your shows. It has to stop. And I'm pretty sure he just committed a constitutional violation. Yeah, because the government can't incentivize or make requests of private companies to violate

people's rights. That is still a government violation of someone's rights. So if I actually tweeted this, that the vaccine mandates are a violation of our right to peaceably assemble. Think about it. I mean, it's a workaround. The government can't use workarounds to violate people's constitutional rights. So if you have a city, New York, and they say you cannot enter any private establishment,

except for the ones we exempt, unless you get a medical treatment, that violates our right to assemble. Joe Biden right now is violating our right to speech by begging big companies to shut down what he views as misinformation and disinformation. So while as bad as that is, I'm actually really happy about this. It shows you how utterly pathetic and desperate they are. We talked about how CNN's ratings were down 91% over last year. They're getting less than like 100,000 viewers in the key demo. They have no influence anymore. And in 10 years, when their viewers age out of politics, they're done.

Their narrative is over. So what does Joe Biden do? He begs. He gets on TV and says, please. He's sitting there crawling amid the desert, begging, just water, please. And we're sitting there with our canteen going, no. Well, these big tech companies might oblige him for sure i'm

watching watching them back oh they got rid of the like button on youtube yeah but because of because of dr fauci and the biden administration's youtube channel being just obliterated by dislikes every time he went on when a politician begs you and they have no authority it's really a good feeling he has a lot of authority. And the intelligence agencies have long extensive ties to big tech social media. So again, it is interesting to see him back. I mean, his poll numbers have also dropped. They dropped 11 points

from last month, according to the Quincy Pack poll. So obviously, he is not doing good at all. Come on, Quincy Pack. Quinnipiac. Same thing. Potato, potato. You know what I'm saying. You're just trying to be smug right now. Somebody super chatted. Is the AI sensor looking for the word with? Because Luke has never

pronounced that word correctly. I'm going to talk about how I'm going to speak English how I want to speak English. There's also this other headline that I read today that said Biden dodges question on COVID and smirks at press conference soon after rambling speech where he bungled his testing czar's name

and announced plan for one billion tests. And, you know, how is that not popular? How are people not supporting him in his larger efforts? He just looks so lost. Exactly. It looked like someone needed to, like, pick him up and take him somewhere. That's what I was saying about, you know, Biden or Obama

when he said, you don't have to do this. He was like, come on, let's get you in the chair. Get you in the sun with your blanket and you can go to sleep. Here's your warm milk. Here's your warm milk, Joe. The video you're referencing too, Luke, is incredible. I mean, it's like him for like 45 seconds standing there like breathing slow, looking down, almost laughing at the ridiculousness of it. Ignoring questions.

It was awful. This press conference he did. So weird. Where he said, I can't even tell you what he said because it was jibber-jabber nonsense. He was just like, we got to, one thing we don't want to do, working to track the, wait, no, we don't want to work. And I'm just like, what is wrong with this guy? It's because, you know what happens joe biden is an old man to say to say he's past his prime it's an understatement he's what comes after your prime well he's after his decay yeah he's after the decay he's now he he you know look

with all due respect to anyone who's older there's a certain time in your life where you sit back you smell the flowers and you just you've done it. You've lived your life. Joe Biden was there and they needed that warm body. And someone came to him and said, Joe, can you read cue cards? And he was like, yeah. And they were like, we think he can pull this off. And then within only a few months, he lost the ability to even read from the teleprompter.

And now here we are. The emperor has no clothes. You know what I love, though, is that as much as we are all that kid pointing at the emperor and saying, he's not wearing any clothes. There are still people around him going, no, he's wearing clothes. He is. He is all there. He is sharp as a tack.

Who are you fooling? You know, Quinnipiac has his approval rating at 33 percent. One third of this country genuinely thinks that Joe Biden is competent. Wow. That's high. That's scary. That's high. Yeah, that is really high.

Well, those are the true believers that are not going to admit that they made a horrible mistake by voting for the guy. But it's sort of this – it's like a religious fervor that people have for their guy, and in this case Biden. And they just – they'll watch that same press conference and say, I think he did pretty good. He made it. And so it's – what do you do to convince that third? Nothing. Well, maybe – He doesn't need the third.

He needs the people, the swing voters that are going to decide whether or not he matters. He's got them. Yeah, independents have swung for the Republicans at this point or away from Democrats. I was looking at one study that tracked the party switching from 2016 to 2020. Independent has become the smallest faction because they're mostly polarizing. But about two to one, they go to Republicans. So maybe it's a little bit

too generous, actually. It's a bit more independent voters are becoming Republican, but a large amount of Democrats are becoming Republican as well. Even their best in the party, like Tulsi Gabbard and Andrew Yang. I believe Andrew Yang left the party too,

didn't he? He did. He started the forward party. They both left the Democratic Party too. That Gabbard and Andrew Yang. I believe Andrew Yang left the party too, didn't he? He did. He started the forward party. They both left the Democratic Party too. That's just a junk party now. There's no room for those guys in the party. Yeah, right. They're pushed out. Are you familiar with Kim Iverson?

Yeah. She's great. She tweeted that she was going to be... She sent her left. She's fairly progressive. We've had her on the show and she's very much left of me and I'm fairly moderate. She tweeted she was voting straight Republican. And when I saw that tweet, it was on the 8th. I was surprised because I was like, I haven't even committed anything like that. And I hate the Democratic Party. But she said anything to stop the mandates and it's not going to be Democrats. Now, the funny thing is, I see Vosh, the socialist commentator, say, oh, what a completely shocking turn of events. And I'm just like, are you not upset that you're bleeding out your center, like your right flank? You are losing support every day and your attitude is, ha, ha, ha. I really think that COVID authoritarianism and lockdowns and vaccine mandates, these

are the only issue that matters. And all the blue checks and the media have ignored for so long this boiling up, bottom up culture of people that are just pissed off and they feel violated. Maybe they lost their jobs or maybe maybe they just had personal medical reasons for not not being forced to mandate this vaccine. I think that's who's going to show up. And I think it's the beginning of a new political realignment that I've hoped to see for a very long time.

Authoritarians, you've said this a thousand times, authoritarians versus people that just want to be free to live their lives. Yeah. And that's why I think we do see some Republicans join the Democratic Party. Those are the authoritarians. Yeah. The Lincoln Project types, they just want to be rich. They want to be in control.

They think you're stupid. Michael Bloomberg, is he really a Democrat? I mean, he's bounced back and forth. And he's the guy who thinks you should be allowed to buy soda because you're too fat. And I'll tell you this. Sure. I think people who are overweight should probably lose weight, but I'm not going to tell you can't have a soda.

You know, I can't track your, I can't track your whole life. It's insane to me. And so what ends up happening is I might, you know, on policy issues be a little bit more collectivist than your average conservative, but on issues of freedom and liberty, I'm like, well, if we can't vote for it, we can't agree. I'm not going to force anyone to do it. And the democratic party in the left establishment left has overwhelmingly become shut up and do as you're told and adhere to the cult and the collective. So they're losing people. They're going to gain those wealthy neocon types who want to go to war and want to control people. But now we're starting to see

much more libertarian values and little a libertarian, civil libertarianism joining the right. And that's, I think it's a fantastic opportunity. A lot of people on the left, a lot of Democrats don't get that. I'll be talking to people who are like, you know, Democrat leaning, and they'll say something about the Republican Party from 20 years ago. They'll be like, yeah, well, the Republicans are the ones who did this with Afghanistan and Iraq. And I was like, yeah, I agree. That was really, really bad. I would never vote for those guys but rand paul i

don't know he's he's against all that stuff i i liked bernie sanders but he sold out to the machine so now that we're seeing more people like thomas massey and you know rand paul i'm i'm getting happier with the republican party donald trump trying to get our troops out of the middle east i'll take it i'll i'll take it man. You saw Bill Kristol leave the Republican. He was basically one of the architects of the Iraq, you know, all the war in the Middle East. And then he left and joined the Democratic Party. Yeah, and the Lincoln Project. I don't know much about them.

It was really funny. They're like, the Republican Party is the party of Lincoln, and Donald Trump has besmirched our name. So we're going to take the party back. And then, you know, after 2020, they're like, and now that we're still trying to make money, we're going to go after Republicans anyway. And everyone's like, aren't you the party of Lincoln? And they're like, eh. When it was when the dust settled, it turned out that they were all just neocons that had become Republicans in the first place. They were Democrats before, but they had become Republicans because they really liked war. And when Trump sided with Rand Paul and the fairly small Liberty wing of the Republican Party,

that was a shot across the bow because they lost control at the top. And I think a lot of this never Trump hysteria can really be described by attempts to scale back some of the never-ending wars. Yeah, definitely. I don't think Trump was perfect in that regard, but I didn't vote for him in 2016. When I was looking in 2020 and I saw the timeline for withdrawal for Afghanistan, I saw Trump complaining about Syria. I saw Trump openly bragging about selling weapons to these countries. I was like, we're getting a little bit of honesty in that regard. And he is trying to get out. It's the best I've seen in my life.

So I'm for it. He didn't start any new wars. But that's one of the reasons they really, really hate him. Yeah, he was very far from perfect. And he never actually succeeded in getting us out of Afghanistan. And I think that was a strategic political mistake. Also a policy mistake on his part. But that's the future.

The future is let's focus on personal responsibility and individual liberty and maybe let's do less of this war stuff. And it's not just the wars, the war on terrorism. The war on COVID has been the same damn thing in terms of enriching the corporate interests that collude with governments to do all this stuff against the rest of us. And, you know, the military industrial complex, there's a COVID industrial complex. And, man, $6 trillion buys a lot of interests. Yeah, just like the war on drugs, the war on COVID, the war on terrorism breeds more drugs, COVID and terrorism. As of course, there's profit incentives built within the government and the larger institutions that corrupt them that of course profit highly off of those problems being made worse as they're being sold to you as they're going to be the solutions to them when they're not. But I'm fairly optimistic. I think that no matter who wins in the culture war, this is the end of the American empire. to you as they're going to be the solutions to them when they're not. But I'm fairly optimistic. I think that no matter who wins in the culture war, this is the end of the American empire.

It's the end of this global American mission. Military bases overseas will probably start shrinking. And the reason I think that is the right side, whatever that really means, I don't know, because it's not about conservative values necessarily, but it is more about anti-war. It's about freedom. It's about personal responsibility. I think if that succeeds, like Trump supporters, civil libertarianism, you've got no willpower towards foreign war. Zero. None of these people want it. If the establishment ends up winning, if the left, I mean, you've still got the progressive flank coming in, and they're just chaotic and destructive. So if the personal responsibility individualist faction does succeed, America is going to come back to just working for America.

And then the end result, the left should be cheering about. Well, real quick, the progressive activists should be celebrating that Trump supporters hate war. Instead, they're combating against them, which says to me they're just chaotic and destructive. So if the Democrats are – the establishment uniparty is not long for this political world. I was going to say that I think isolationism – we had that before World War I, I think. And part of why World War I broke out is because the U.S., looking back, maybe wasn't involved. Not really. It's not the reason why.

But the military-industrial complex basically was in 1946, I think the liberal economic order got created basically to put American military bases all over the world, British, American, French military bases, and then defend, make sure that another World War III never breaks out, another World War never breaks out. And I also agree that American imperialism is on a decline. I don't know if that means that there's not going to be any military bases, America's going to isolate, and then a world war is going to break out. I mean, that's, that cannot happen. That is to all these military authoritarians. They do not want that to happen. Well, you've got the, um, the Joe Biden special interests that are basically

selling us out to China. So if they gain power, then the U S just crumbles, I guess they want to sell off all of our assets and resources to China and extract the value from this country, and then we're left holding an empty bag. And then you have the Trump side, which says we want to defend our borders, bring industry and jobs back to the United States, and then there's just no – there's not going to be any power or force of will towards international conflict from the United States at the very least. Do they consider Iraq part of our borders? What, the right? No, like Joe Biden. I know it's a question you can't answer and you don't know, but do you think that they— Joe Biden probably does.

Here's what we got going on. The reason—one of the reasons they really hate Donald Trump is because their longstanding plan with Europe, natural gas, oil pipelines, and all that was disrupted to such an absurd degree. Boy, were they spinning. They wanted to build a pipeline. I've talked about this, but they wanted to build a pipeline, the Qatar-Turkey pipeline, through Syria, through Turkey, into Europe to offset the gas prom, you know, gas monopoly. As soon as Trump got in, they knew that plan was done. Everything they had been working on was going to be shut down because Donald Trump didn't want to be involved in these

foreign wars. He didn't want to be involved in Syria. He didn't want to be involved in these foreign wars. He didn't want to be involved in Syria. He didn't want to be involved in Afghanistan. And that meant we would, the United States would not be able to win this international conflict in the region. So they did everything in their power to shut them down. Further, Donald Trump, here's what I really think. I think Donald Trump genuinely was like, I don't know why we have any of this stuff. And the, and the bureaucratic state is probably like, listen, we have a plan. You need to do this. And he's like, I don't care. He's like, America, America, I don't know why you're doing this.

And he ignores them and he won't listen. And then stumbling, bumbling Donald Trump. And I know he's not really, but I mean, in this one capacity, he stumbles upon a video of Joe Biden demanding a quid pro quo with Ukraine. And Trump gets on the phone. He's like, what's that all about? And the bureaucratic state goes, no, like that's our plan. We have a company.

We've a proxy company. We've set up in Ukraine. The vice president's son is on the board. We got a former CIA director. We are working Ukraine to get gas into Europe. And Trump just blurts it out. And then that's why they did everything in their power to stop Trump. It wasn't about fascism or racism. It was that Trump was just, he wasn't

supposed to win. He was not a part of their stupid plans and he was dismantling them. And for four years, he really set them back. Now Joe Biden is left with the neoliberal establishment, neocon uniparty plan just in shambles. And I don't think they can recover from it, to be honest. I would push back a little bit. He had some populistic policies that do deserve to be commended and respected, no matter what side of the political aisle you're on. But he did continue the war in Yemen, fighting alongside al-Qaeda,

fighting alongside the Saudi coalition, creating one of the worst humanitarian crises in the world. He did give Ukraine lethal weapons. He did send a crap ton of drone strikes to the point and extent where he stopped even listing them and even being transparent about them. And then he also bombed Syria because his daughter came to him and said she saw a scary video online, according to Donald Trump's own son. So with that happening, he brought us very close to war with Russia. That fits.

I don't think we disagree. The Yemen-Afghanistan stuff is what Trump knows. He knows 9-11. He knows that. So when they come to him and say this, he goes, oh, okay, I'll do that. I'm not saying what he was doing was good. I'm saying he was dismantling their plan because he didn't understand or care about their circuitous plan towards gas interdependency. And when it came to bombing Syria, yeah, you're right. It was his daughter. The bureaucratic state, Trump hated the

head of the FBI, hated the CIA. He didn't like any of these people. They had smeared and lied about him. So he was ignoring them outright. But when it came to his daughter and his son-in-law, he was like, sure, I'll do what you guys say. And so they couldn't control him. And I'm not saying that means Trump was doing good things. It just means their real reason for opposing him is that, you know, I'll put it this way. It is said, and tell me if you guys agree, that the deep state, I just call it the bureaucratic, the administrative state, they have plans. And those plans extend beyond the terms of the sitting president. So when the new president comes in, they say, here's the operation we're currently working on.

And typically the president goes, okay, you got it. Obama would do it, right? Bush would do it. And then Trump gets in and he goes, no, I'm not going to do it. You can't tell me what to do. I've got plans. And then all of a sudden they're angry and freaking out because Trump isn't playing ball.

100%. There you go. Yeah, there was an aspect where he was a bull in a China shop and he said, well, we're just going to take the oil in Syria. I'm going to leave the military there. And there was also military individuals that were lying to him about the exact numbers of U.S. troops inside of Syria, which is also mind boggling when you think about it in that kind of perspective.

But I think he should always be judged on his actions in each direction. I agree. But I think a lot of people weren't expecting him to be in there, and I think he capitulated some. He fought some, but I think that's up for a lot of people's own personal interpretation. Way too much capitulation, and I'm sure you guys have covered this in a different conversation, but my theory without any evidence is that he took a dive on Snowden because they made him. And Assange, sure.

How do you explain that? And Assange, too. Yeah, Assange. And Ross Albrecht. Yeah. That he couldn't do it. I kind of feel like Trump thought he was going to get a second term. And so he was, you know, I'll hold back a little bit because I want another term.

And then when it started looking bad for him, he said, I can't go crazy because I'm going to try again. And he thinks he's going to get it in 2024. And then I'll tell you this, man. If Donald Trump takes the White House in 2024, he takes the election. And then in 2025, you know, come January 20th or whatever there is another trump administration he will emerge from that white house with glowing red eyes and energy energy emitting from his body as he raises his finger and he says arrest them all and he just goes after every single one of these people who who wronged him or slide him who slided him who smeared who lied because he's on he's going to

be unrestrained he's just going to be, I'm done playing this. I'm willing to bet he'd fire Fauci right away. I don't like the arrest. It sounds like political persecution if a president gets in and starts arresting his enemies. I mean, people who broke the law. Lots of them. A lot of them are breaking the law right now. There's a lot of documents.

They should be arrested. All the executives. It's not illegal when the president does it. That's an American trope. Trump also just a couple days ago said it's hard to criticize Biden now because Biden congratulated him on his promotion of the vaccine. Oh, my God. So there's also that as well. And then Donald Trump also doubled down and made veiled attacks against Ron DeSantis, the governor of Florida, for not publicly talking about his booster shot, allegedly, that he took, according to Trump, who's attacking him now.

It was only a matter of time until the two people butted heads. I'm not saying Trump will be right to do it. I'm not saying Trump is correct in every action he's taken. I'm saying Trump will get in office and be like, this is my one chance. I'm not going to play around. I've learned from the mistakes I've made. And he's just going to say, I want the documents released, release them now. And he's going to, he's going to, so he's going to walk with these people. He's going to say, I'm going to follow

you to the, to the archives. And I'm going to watch you publicly release these documents right now under my orders as president. Cause when he would do all this stuff last time, they'd be like, you got it. And then they wouldn't do it. And then Trump would forget about it. He is going to go off the rails. He is going to be like, I'm not playing games anymore. He strikes me like a really bright, hot fire that's burning off of like not a lot of fuel, like paper. And it's really, really intense. But if the wind blows, it just goes out.

And you're like, where was he when we needed him? Where was he when Assange was is rotting away in prison where was he when when his daughter came crying to bomb a country so he did it like we need strength and and you know consistency i don't want this bombastic loud i hear you man clown show anymore i i hear you on that i mean i i've often said i'd meet all these people who would say i voted for trump because i liked his policies. But man, I wish the guy would shut up. But I will also add, I think there's going to be a lot of people in 2023. A lot of people have suffered under Joe Biden and the Democrats in the past year. The lockdowns have been miserable. Kids are upset.

Children have committed suicide. I know a guy whose kid took his life and it's a horrifying story because he got locked down and they didn't see it coming. These people, many of them are just going to want revenge. And are you going to get revenge with Ron DeSantis? I'm sorry. The answer is no. Ron DeSantis is younger. He's calmer.

He's collected. He's got a lot of things right. A lot of people like him. But Donald Trump would be like unleashing a bull. But this time, the bull is on fire. That's a good point, this kind of anger and redemption, because that was just going to bring up DeSantis again, because I think DeSantis is going to give Trump a run for his money.

I think a lot of people like DeSantis a lot more than they like Trump. I think there's a lot of broken promises with Trump. I think there's also a lot of clear corruption, a lot of promotion of big pharma, when on the other hand you have DeSantis that has essentially stopped the narrative in its tracks when it was Donald Trump that said, it's only going to be two weeks to slow the spread. It was Donald Trump that instituted warp speed. It was Donald Trump that said, here Fauci, control the country, do whatever you want, when DeSantis did completely the utter opposite of that.

And I think when it comes to that revenge, that aspect is going to be hindered by the fact that Donald Trump caused a lot of the pain that the American people are suffering with that the Democrats continued by continuing his policies, while DeSantis was one of the only people standing in the way of it and saying, no, I'm not going to implement your mandates. I'm not going to implement your lockdowns, your restrictions, your bull crap on my people because I believe in personal freedom and personal liberty. And because he made that stand, I do believe he's going to win out against Donald Trump in the larger public opinion. Luke just wants us to move to Florida.

That's why I say I love Florida. So I am biased here from my perspective. And DeSantis isn't perfect. There's also some things you could criticize him on. But by and large, you see Florida leading the way against the lockdowns, the mandates. Texas was following very closely what Florida was doing, but Florida was the first one that initiated

a lot of these major moves that absolutely broke this COVID narrative, that actually broke a lot of this nonsense and stopped it in its tracks. And that's why I do believe DeSantis and Trump are fighting already. It's going to be a big fight. It's going to be a fight that's going to be very entertaining. But at the end of the day, I think DeSantis absolutely has this one in the bag.

Yeah, Trump has a lot of baggage when it comes to lockdowns and it comes to vaccine mandates. So I think, you know, he is, as you mentioned, he's the guy that platformed Fauci. And if you go back and look at what was going on at the time, he really got sort of led around by all of these health care bureaucrats that absolutely wanted to impose this radical new experiment on the American people. And combine that with the fact that he wants credit for the vaccine, he's going to say a lot of dumb stuff about it right now. And I think DeSantis looks a hell of a lot better in that particular argument. And DeSantis did it. And Trump talked about it like his first instinct was right.

And when they first said, oh, let's shut down the economy, Trump's like, we can't do that. But then the bureaucrats convinced him. Yeah, two weeks to solar spread. That's how it started with the Trump administration. People don't get that. Do you think Donald Trump would rather solve,

like heal everybody of COVID, but no one knew it was him forever, and Biden got the credit, or have people suffer for another year and then slowly come out of it, and then he gets the credit? It's all about credit. I think it's all about credit for that psychopath.

That's insane. Well, you can't get mad because someone agreed with you, and all of a sudden you're like, that proves it. It's a hypothetical. He cares more about what people think than about getting the job done when it comes to the vaccine. He wants the credit for it. Credit?

I think that's Trump derangement syndrome. I certainly think Trump is egotistical and narcissistic. You're right. I'm making an assumption of what he thought, and it's not. But, yo. He wants credit for the vaccine? Who cares? Even Joe Biden, I would imagine, if someone came to him and said, I am the great fairy,

Joe Biden, and I will cure everyone of their ailments, but Trump will get the credit. I still think Biden would be like, eh. I mean, Biden's trash, too. I know, but I'm saying like- Anyone that's going to be like, let their ego get in front of public safety is dangerous. The idea of the cartoon villain, I don't believe, is real for the most part. You know, it's like, I'd rather everyone suffer. You know, I don't think Trump is like that.

I don't think it's a cartoon. And I think the problem with politics and politicians is that they face incentives where if they get credit for things, they win. And if they don't get credit, they lose. And nobody wants to lose in politics because the whole point is winning. So the very nature of the process of politics is corrupting. And it's based on ego and arrogance and fatal conceit. And Trump is sort of a – he sort of leans into that caricature. But he's not all that different than all these guys.

But he's a military commander-in-chief at that point. And when the George Floyd riots broke out day two, I said to Tim, we got to get the National Guard in there now. And it didn't happen day two. Day three, still no National Guard. And then people started getting shot. And he didn't want to get called a fascist. Trump didn't want people to think he was a militant fascist. So he didn't send in the National Guard.

He just let things burn that's tough i mean i don't know what the right answer is that he's well there's a lot of you that he's mentally he cares more about the way people perceive him than getting the job let me let me bring up this story i think there's a very real possibility that we don't even see an opportunity for trump to be re-elected following this news from timcast.com oath keep's leader and 10 members charged with seditious conspiracy over January 6th. And there it is. We heard from Marjorie Taylor Greene that there was going to be an attempt to disqualify

members of Congress and maybe even the president himself. There's now an organization out of North Carolina filing a lawsuit saying that Madison Cawthorn is no longer, he's disqualified from running for reelection because he incited insurrection against the United States. Now they have their sedition charges, finally. And a lot of people were saying all throughout last year, and we've even said this, there's no insurrection charges, trespassing, come on. Well, you know what I think now? I think they sat on these charges because they wanted to make sure sedition was fresh in the minds of the American public in an election year. And so here we go.

They're going to ramp up. They're going to start claiming, see, it was sedition. Therefore, anyone who participated in the rally, anyone who helped organize or in any way was associated with it you have committed inside an insurrection and you can't hold office they're going to go after trump they're going to go after marjorie taylor green and they are they're already going after madison cawthorne you just throw in more people anybody who's who's opposing the establishment well the timing here is very odd it took him one year one year to press charges i mean what what was going on here this is extremely

unusual to the point where a lot of people were saying, well, the Oath Keepers, they must be fed. Stuart Rhodes is definitely a fed. Well, now he's getting some serious federal charges, which doesn't look like he's a fed here. But again, one year? It's just mind-boggling. Kinzinger was like, Ray Epps was only telling people

to go into the Capitol. He didn't do it himself, so that's fine. But Trump held a rally where he said, be strong, and that's incitement. You know, this guy's a crackpot.

But you can see that it's agenda-driven. And the Ray Epps thing, that's his name, right? Yeah. That's the guy's name? Yeah. Really screwed him over.

Really threw him for a loop. And they can't figure out how to deal with that guy. For those that aren't familiar, this is the guy. He's seen in a bunch of videos saying he's telling everyone to go into the Capitol. And people are wondering why he wasn't criminally charged. And now it's at the forefront and they have no answer. There was people calling him feds the day before the event because he was calling for violence and destruction of government property before the event.

During the event, he's on camera calling for property destruction and storming the Capitol. And people are chanting, Fed, Fed. And Thomas Massey basically streamed this video from his phone when he was talking to the, who was he talking to? The head of the Attorney General. And then Ted Cruz picked it up.

I find Glenn Greenwald's analysis of this pretty compelling, that it would be quite typical for the government to do this kind of thing. But I think in terms of the politics of it, I think it's pretty weak sauce going into the election. Going back to my earlier point, if you're looking at empty grocery shelves and you can't afford to feed your family, and maybe you've been forced out of your job because of a vaccine mandate, all the drama about January 6th. And I was super critical of anyone that participated in January 6th. And I wouldn't apologize for anybody that was either committing violence or being near it. You just don't do that. Lock them up? Yeah.

They should be charged. Yeah, but that said, this is not the Democratic solution to surviving the re-election. But they think it is. They think it is. Well, what else have they got? And I get it. They're going to double down, and this looks fundamentally political, and they're going to play their cards and see what happens.

If they succeed, or I got to be honest, if they even try these lawsuits to disqualify members of Congress, and they already are. So I don't even know what I'm saying at this point, but I just think you're asking for serious trouble in this country. Because what happens when you get a judge who says, we agree, you get some lefty establishment judge, and they say, we hear your case. We agree. Madison Cawthorn, you can't run for re-election. What do you think the right's going to do? You think they're going to be like, oh, well, gee, I guess we can't have our representative anymore. Or do you think they're going to be like, screw you, no. And then what happens when you start getting congressional districts where there's no agreement on what the proper ballots are because certain names have been removed from only some of them?

What happens when you get one precinct saying you can't disqualify him? That's wrong. We support him. What happens when Republican areas in the district all defend him and Democratic areas refuse? Then what? What happens when they actually reelect him and then the Democrats are just like, look at this court ruling. He can't. He incited insurrection under the 14th Amendment, Section 3, and they do it anyway.

Do you think people just sit back and say, ah, lost i guess we'll carry on no no no no i don't they're gonna scream the courts have ruled he can't run they're cheating they're breaking the law and the right's gonna say your ridiculous lawsuit is meritless and the judge is wrong and there's going to be no agreement on what the law actually is supposed to be at that point yeah i think that's a credible theory to definitely kind of look at and examine here especially with the justice department announcing a new task force for domestic terrorism the dhs also made some very alarming statements yesterday about domestic bomb production so you know it might not be enough politically but that doesn't't mean that there's something later down the line that still might happen that they have planned to work in bigger political favor.

So there's some people talking about the possibility of false flag domestic attacks here in the United States to blame the right. And the way things are moving, they're really moving in a very negative way where we are only becoming more divided. People are having more hatred for their fellow american and the ingredients that are causing that the corporate media the social the social media i don't see those ingredients going away i see them only being added more into this larger stirring pot of these globalist elites that want us all fighting and attacking each other but you don't have to eat out of that stew pot. That's the key is to get away from that propaganda. And away from the hatred and away from the fear and away from a lot of the bull crap. But if there's going to be larger staged events that create victims and casualties,

it's going to be very hard for a lot of people to ignore those kind of larger events. How do you help people keep an open eyeball for that kind of stuff? It's very difficult. Um, it's, it's not easy. I mean, there's a lot of things working behind the scenes that we,

we aren't even privy to. We don't even know about. Um, and that's, that's asking how do you put a genie back in a genie bottle? You gotta do something that I've tried to do. I've been to do. I've been super involved in politics for most of my career. I was a tea party organizer and I did a Rand Paul super PAC. I did a Gary Johnson super PAC. And what we've tried to do

is leave all of that aside. And the original aspiration for, for us at free, the people was to be sort of transpartisan, try to find common American values that could bring people together on various subjects and see if we couldn't just get along on something. And, and I think the first step of that is like, if you, if you go into this saying, you know what, I'm team red, I'm red pilled. Those other guys are monsters. It doesn't really work that way. So I've tried to spend some time talking to my progressive opponents on some of these issues. I got to say that lockdowns have kind of blown that up because now we all really hate each other and it's very difficult to find that common ground. But again, the future,

the anti-authoritarian future, we're going to find people across the political spectrum that are fed up with all this crap and want to do something different. We talk about the left and the right. And then when I look at the political compass, there's actually an up and a down where the authoritarians, you can have a leftist authoritarian or rightist authoritarian. But then when you go down, you get to the individualism. And so you do see leftist individualists and rightist individualists. I'm one of them. I think the left overwhelmingly is authoritarian.

There are very few people among Democrats who are anti-authoritarian. I'm wondering if the line on this quad graph isn't straight lines, but actually as it goes to the left, it naturally tends up towards authoritarianism. And as it goes towards the right, it tends down towards individualism. There is a such thing as left libertarianism, but it's substantially less populated because it's a very weird political space. When it comes to the modern version of the left, what we have in the United States today with the Democratic Party and leftist activists is because they're overwhelmingly collectivist, even the Democratic activists or progressives or DSA types who don't like Biden would support him due to tribalism and collectivism. Then you have the run-of-the-mill lay Democratic voter who doesn't know anything, but adheres to the authority out of ignorance and fear.

So it's not that they're authoritarian, these people, in the sense that they're like, we want you to bend the knee and do as you're told. It's that they don't know anything, don't want to know anything, and say, I'm going to do what I'm told by Brian Seltzer and Jake Tapper. Authoritarian follower as opposed to an authoritarian leader. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I figure there's an audience.

I mean, there's people hard set in their ways. And maybe it has something to do with age where you just stop thinking about the world anymore. You are who you are and you've accepted that. But I think there's an opportunity, particularly with young people. I'm trying to be an optimist here. So hang out with me for just a second. I think a lot of young people are searching for something else. And I think there is a small L libertarian solution where we can sort of accommodate our different cultural differences. And you can be conservative. You can be liberal. You can be all these different things. As long as we agree to solve problems on the local level and live our lives however we see fit, as long as you don't hurt people or take their stuff. And that ultimately is the libertarian solution.

I'm selling T-shirts, too, tonight. Sorry. It says don't hurt people hurt people or take their stuff. And that ultimately is the libertarian solution. I'm selling T-shirts too tonight. Sorry. It says don't hurt people and don't take their stuff. Yeah. I agree with that. It's a simple message that I wish more people would just understand. And that's literally a lot of people's philosophies that if they instituted would create such a better world.

Yeah. Just don't steal. That's simple. But I don't think that's a political solution. You're talking about changing hearts and minds and talking about a little bit of humility when we deal with other people who, who may be confused about using the power of state to force other people to be vaccinated.

For people whose minds are still open, we should talk to them. And, and that's the opportunity here for, for people that are hardened authoritar we should talk to them. And that's the opportunity here. For people that are hardened authoritarians, you can't. They're done. Here's a question. It transforms them.

What on this show that you may have seen or you guys has been conservative? Is saying defy the state and the authority, is that conservative? No. No. No. Absolutely not. Opposing Vax mandates, is that a conservative position? No, that's a tribal political position, I guess. It's a liberty position.

It's interesting to me that many of the people we're trying to convince have this view that this show is conservative when we rarely have ever talked about abortion and taxes and traditional family values or anything like that. Yet somehow that's what we're accused of being. That's what they say when our discussions are almost always libertarian. You could argue, I think, that opposing VAX mandates is conservative because it's like this weird liberal thing where they want to change the whole way the system is built. And we're like, yo, natural immunity is a thing.

There's other ways. Let's not rush this. But that's not conservative. That's kind of like the let's conserve our energy. Let's slowly move through this. Traditional conservatism is, and feel free to chime in after I say this, my interpretation is upholding traditional values that help preserve a system that has led to success. That would be protect the system, defend the status quo. And then progressivism or leftism is the way we've usually described it as the left

pulls towards progress and the right holds them back a little bit and they slowly move towards, you know, new ways of doing things, but not too much too fast. And what we've got now is the chain is snapped. The right is stumbling back a little bit only a little bit and the left has just taken off running like you know the dog getting loose on the leash so i don't see anything that we're talking about being conservative because we're actually fairly reformist we're complaining about the establishment we're actually revolutionary when we call for the end of the federal reserve so how is any of that that's amazing the federal reserve is is a revolutionary calling for an end of the fed is a revolutionary idea that's wild and they would be like it's a conservative show i'm like bro you guys are defending massive multinational corporations

how we convince those people i honestly we can we can tell the truth we can be honest but short of using their tactics and manipulation i don't see how you you change people's minds laugh that's a good one i don't know like music like i i don't i don't think we followed the authoritarians paradigm because their their whole role is to manipulate and scare people into falling in line and our model is is more like joe rogan let's have a conversation i'm not here to tell you what to think but I'm going to insist that you start thinking for yourself. And to me, that's our paradigm. And I know it sounds a little hippy-dippy, but we're not going to out-authoritarian the authoritarians.

We've got to figure out a totally different way to engage people. And I think people that have gone through this two years of lockdown torture and all the psychological and personal damage we've done, particularly to children, I think people might be hungry for an alternative. And we're that revolution, but I think our tactics are different. We respect people enough not to tell them what to think.

So this is the funny thing, right? The historical left and right. Are you familiar where it originates? The French Revolution, right? Where the people sitting on the right were the monarchists or they wanted to keep the system. The aristocracy, yeah. Yeah, and then the left was the revolutionary communist lefty types. The funny thing is, we're sitting here saying

the establishment is busted and broken. They're bad. We got to vote them all out, get rid of that. We want to end the Fed. We want dramatic revolutionary change in this country. And the quote unquote left people like Hassan or Vosh are saying the massive multinational corporations are correct and we should be forced to buy their products by the status quo establishment politicians. And I'm like, that makes them right wing. It doesn't matter if your economic position is nationalization

of a corporation. You are on the historical scale, based on the original definition, the right wing defending aristocracy, and we're here complaining about it. Fascists, absolute fascists, even occupied Democrats. They tweeted today that in Greece the government is fining people $113 per month because they didn't take a product from a private criminal multinational organization. They're also bragging that in Austria the government is fining people stealing $4,000 for them because they didn't take a product from a big pharma agency. This is also going to be happening in Quebec, and Occupy Democrats are asking, retweet if you want this to happen in the United States, which is absolutely ridiculous. They're on the side of literally forcing you through the threat of

stealing your money or having guys show up with guns and use violence against you if you don't buy a product this is where they're at they're absolutely fascists totalitarian technocrats that have no respect for human decency or your personal property. I have a tweet about this. So here we have the tweet. They say Greece announces that it'll begin fining the unvaccinated $113 per month. Austria announces that it'll begin fining them for $4,000, fining them $4,000 a month.

And Quebec announces it may begin slapping them with a significant fine. Retweet if you think America must do it. My response was no. We should just lock the unvaccinated people in jail. They can leave anytime as soon as they get the vaccine. This way, we aren't forcing them to get vaccinated and we keep people safe.

Australia model. I was concerned about that tweet because they're going to take your advice. So I often tweet garbled nonsense, but I have no problem explaining why I do it. By tweeting the opposite in a slightly silly way, the average person of intelligence understands my point, and you

can't take the tweet and assert context to it. So Luke posted a meme, and I'm like, I'm looking at this meme, and it's like, you know, questioning, you know, vaccines and things like that. Or it's the science and the corporations around it. And I'm like, if you post that, they might say you're posting medical misinformation and ban you. So I posted it very, in a very silly way, criticizing it and pushing something that was absurd.

So what are they going to do? Are they going to ban me for saying it was crazy? Even though most people understand my point. My response to this tweet was replying to it with a gif of Mussolini giving a speech. I saw that. That was awesome. That's also another way, just mocking these people because their ideas are absurd. And when we really break it down, what they're doing, they're calling for violent men with

guns to come to people and steal their money for not taking a product. That's essentially what it boils down to. So let me just stress this point right now. And I'm going to say it again to make sure everyone hears it because I really want the breadtubers to hear this. If we are talking about the French Revolution and the right was, as you described, we'd say the aristocracy and the left was the revolutionary. We sit before you today as humble civil libertarians and

big L libertarians in a certain sense, saying the establishment politicians are corrupt and broken, the massive multinational corporations are criminal, and they are stripping the value and the rights of the working class in this country. We believe that there needs to be dramatic revolutionary change in this country, like

ending the Federal Reserve. Not depending on Chinese slave labor. And not just ending the Fed. We would repeal it and then take control of the finances with our Congress. Restoring the rights of the working class, ending the corrupt aristocracy and elitism in this nation, and letting good working class people have the fruits of their labor from the labor they produce. And many of you, many of you sit there and say it is good that Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden, corrupt neo-neocon corporatists, neolib corporatists, are mandating the American people be forced to buy a product from a massive

multinational corporation. You are the right in your own argument, and we are the left. We are to the left of you, and we're not even left even leftists now if you want to talk about economic scale when left means economic policy collectivism or right is laissez-faire oh then we'll have an argument for sure but if you want to play that game of left and right as tribes y'all on the on bread tube are actually right wing for defending the government and the corporations as they do this how does that happen isn't that weird they must have changed aisles there at some point. They all got up and shuffled over. I think that's why you got to not get too hung up on the definitions of the words rightist

and leftist because really, yeah, you can call yourself whatever you want, but if you're supporting multinational corporate takeover, that's authoritarian as hell. It's monarchist as hell. Criminal entities with no liability for their product that's forced and extorted on the general public. That's a whole new level of craziness. That has a criminal past of buying off regulators, politicians, and doctors for pure profit motive that they had to pay billions of dollars in fines to. Pfizer is in the top 10 largest criminal cases in the world. I think Pfizer is number five or six or something.

For buying off regulators, scientists, and politicians. You know, in practice, it's quite often difficult to see the difference between fascist regimes and communist regimes. And one technically is government ownership of the means of production. The other is government control of the means of production. But I've done a pretty deep dive on this. And if you look at Pol Pot, the mass murderer in Cambodia, and you look at many of his policies, not just economics, but civil liberties and general disdain for life, it's fairly difficult to tell the difference between him and Adolf Hitler. And yet we're taught that these guys are

in opposite ends of the political spectrum. No, they're both murderous authoritarians. And mine's different than you. I put the bad guys on the bottom. I get the metaphor of putting us on the bottom. But as you move up my political scale, you get to all the things that are voluntary, cooperation and choice and informed consent and all these crazy radical ideas that neither political establishment will tolerate today. And to me, it goes back to your manifesto that you laid out there.

That's where we can find reasonable people. And it almost feels like it's in the middle, even though it's outside of the current structure altogether. It's the people that spin around all through it and are willing to engage and understand all of it that seem like they're in the middle. It's happening so fast that it just looks like it's right there.

Those are the people I'm looking for. Well, I think we found them tonight in the comments. They're all saying we're foolish. No, I think the people who watch tend to be fairly moderate. Nobody's an extremist in any sense. Maybe a few people pop in here and there.

We get some leftists who just hate us, and they're very authoritarian, tanky types. But for the most part, the people I meet on the street, regular people, and the response I usually get from people is they're like i don't know man i just want to be able to to live to feed my family to get by i don't want to hurt anybody i don't want to i don't want to cause problems i just want things to get better and i want people to chill out yeah that's a lot of it you got a lot of people who are like we want to go crazy we want to go to war we want dramatic revolutionary change by any means necessary and And, you know, the one thing I find fascinating, because I've talked to a lot of Antifa people about this. I said, isn't the use of violence against someone

inherently authoritarian? And they just, they never have a real answer for it. You might get these sophists who are like, actually, the use of violence isn't because, and I'm like, what about beating someone until they agree with you is not authoritarian because isn't authoritarianism strict adherence to the authority or governance or politics um based upon adherence to the authority and the use of violence is authoritarian to force them to do it whereas libertarian would be like sitting down over a cup of coffee and having a discussion and an argument and trying to convince them persuasion right well defense, I guess, could be a libertarian thing. And, you know, we have this thing called the non-aggression principle that if you can't

mess with somebody else, but if they mess with you, they threaten your life or your property, you have a right to defend yourself. But back to your point, I think this is super important. Antifa's model is explicitly violent. They're quite proud of it, and they think that violent change is the only way to sort of transform society, break the system. And all of these communist dictators tried this stuff, and they didn't give one damn about human life. Our strategy has to be fundamentally different. Ours has to be nonviolent because violence is the ultimate violation of liberties and people's humanity. So I think there's power in nonviolence. And I'm a student of Martin Luther King and Gandhi, and I've studied these nonviolent movements, the solidarity movement,

who would have thought that a bunch of guys could gather and beat this all-powerful Soviet regime with nonviolence? They did it. So I think our tactics have to be different, which is why I was so critical about January 6th. Aping the other guys is a losing strategy. You're saying with the Soviet, is it a peaceful, what was the party name you said that defied the Soviets? Solidarity movement. It was a movement of union workers and people coming together throughout the factories that they were mandated to work at,

and saying, no, we're going to protest. We're not going to work for the Soviet empire. We're going to strike. And because of going to work for the Soviet Empire. We're going to strike. And because of those strikes and that kind of collective bargaining power, it was one of the reasons, out of many, why the Soviet Empire kind of crumbled. Which my family was a part of in Dynastia Poland.

And a little bit of trivia for you guys. For those that are fans of the game Civilization, in the video game Civilization 2, which is a very early version of it you're you're you're creating a country when you have civil unrest it actually shows an image from the solidarity movement they're holding the big sign and protesting and that's the symbol using the game of unrest in your city yeah cool stuff huh a lot of history there um and it shows you that protests throughout history sometimes do work. Now, there's a lot of pessimists that say protests never work, but I think it's worth a try, and I definitely agree with you. We should always strive to be nonviolent. prioritize that nonviolence over anything else because the state has mastered the tool of of

anger of hatred and of violence in such a way that there's no using it in any way that it doesn't benefit them directly but there is a big protest coming as it is in just about a week it is in dc what is the protest called like the march against mandates is it are you sure it's called march against man no but that's what I think it is. Yeah, I don't think that's quite right. So we have this story from Newsweek.

Joe Rogan and Robert Kennedy Jr. to speak at conspiracy theorist vaccine mandate protest. Wow. What a story, Newsweek. Ewan Palmer, or however you pronounce your name, I wonder where you got

that information. I reached out to Joe Rogan for comment and I said, are you going to this thing? He said, no. And that was it. I'm like, why are they reporting he's going to this? But I suppose it's easier for me to ask him, because I know him, than it was for this journalist. But where the hell did

they get this information to claim he was going to be there? I had to wonder, because when I saw this, I was like, if I tell people Joe's not going to be there, less people will show up, right? Because if they genuinely thought Joe would be there, I mean wonder because when i saw this i was like if i tell people joe's not going to be there less people will show up right because if they genuinely thought joe would be there i mean you might fill a stadium with people showing up is it possible this guy was like i'm just going to say it because then everyone's going to want to be there we saw it occupy wall street they claimed radiohead was coming and thousands like 10 000 how many people were there luke it's like 10 000 it was it was ridiculous huge Yep. But everyone was there right before they were about to allegedly sweep the park and kick everyone out.

They say he is listed as being among the speakers at the march, which ends the Lincoln Memorial. So where does that come from? Probably some fake news. Probably either someone trying to make sure that more people show up to this protest. I mean, we're talking about this protest now. I think it's a worthwhile protest. I don't know who sent them the information. Obviously, Brett Weinstein is also making sure that people understand that this is kind of fake news being spread out there.

But there's going to be a lot of important people out there. I think it's an important protest. I think it's an important discussion that needs to be had in this country. As far as this fake news, I don't really have anything else to say other than that. I'm sure both people that want people to show up and people that want to demonize this thing are going to be spreading a lot of information. I, for one, would love to see Americans stand up and rise up. And I've been disappointed that we haven't seen the same sort of massive marches. We're all on Twitter and we're watching these marches all across Europe, in Australia, everywhere. And there's been less of it in the United States. And I think we're due for a nice grassroots uprising,

but I would again say I'm going to beat this dead horse. It's got to be peaceful because everybody's watching and one bad actor will destroy your message and transform what could be a pivotal moment in American history.

The feds are dying for an incident to happen that will turn violent, that will hurt other people, that will work in American history. And the feds are dying for an incident to happen that will turn violent, that will hurt other people that will work in their benefit. So they desperately want something like that to happen. I would even say as desperate as to even potentially manufacture it. That's my perspective. So it is, it is defeat the mandates DC.

And they say, after they get the Lincoln Memorial recording artists, prominent doctors, journalists, pro athletes, actors, and premier thought leaders will give a series of inspiring talks and musical performances. I don't see if it says who is going to be there, though, or why they were claiming that it was going to be Joe. Keeping it open, it looks like.

The FLCCC has also provided a lot of important information to a lot of people that, even information that I personally used myself. And they do a lot of good work. So it's cool to see them involved here. Chris Martinson of Peak Prosperity is also going to be there. He's going to be speaking and participating. He's been on the show. He's a friend of mine as well.

Dr. Malone, Dr. McCullough. And I'm not sure about Robert Kennedy Jr. I don't know if he's confirmed. Does conspiracy mean anything anymore? It doesn't mean anything, does it? The media is just like a conspiracy march. And I'm like, that doesn't mean anything. I literally don't care what you think.

You are all crackpots. You believe the Covington kid BS. Imagine taking medical advice from people who believe Jussie Smollett. Sorry, the moment you said that, I'm just like, bro, I don't care what you have to say about conspiracy theories at all. Literally. The spoiler alert. Yeah. Sorry, the moment you said that, I'm just like, bro, I don't care what you have to say about conspiracy theories at all, literally. The spoiler alert, Marge, would be a more appropriate name for what's been happening here. And again, the corporate media is going to vilify it because it goes against a lot of their corporate media partners.

And this is bad for business for the big industries that are tied to them. So obviously they're going to try to attack it in any way that they can. It's only a matter of time before we get that email where it's like, Hi, I'm with Pfizer and we'd love to sponsor your show. And then all of a sudden one day we're like, You know what? We're totally in favor of this. People should get 12. 12 vaccines. Talk to your doctor about your 12th vaccine today.

Oh my gosh. No, we won't play those games. It'd be interesting to do a Pfizer ad and then at the end, after the ad, be like, yeah, Pfizer's trash. This authoritarian corporation. I wonder if that'd be good. That'd be fun. If I ever received anything where it was like, we'd like to sponsor your show, I'd probably just publish all the documents. And I'm saying that now, so it'll definitely never happen.

But I would thoroughly enjoy being like, thank you for the request. Here's Twitter. Here's what they're sending people. I would love to see Tim, thank you for the request. Here's Twitter. Here's what they're sending people. I would love to see Tim Pool brought to you by Pfizer. All of a sudden I'm wearing a suit. We're in a different room. Pfizer beanie. We're in an office building.

We're all wearing black tie suits. Luke's pronouncing everything correctly. It's just absolutely crazy. These are our body doubles. It's just absolutely crazy. It's bizarro Pfizer world. Well, I'll say this. Luke, you're going to be at the protest? Yes.

I got to tell everybody, be careful, because agent provocateurs, man. Absolutely. That's why it's important to live stream. I'm going to be probably live streaming if I could get good cell phone signal and videotaping everything, making sure that, of course, we get everything on the record because the only thing really preventing and stopping something is being fully transparent, open, and honest about everything.

And the best way to do that is to live stream. So I'm going to be live streaming on youtube.com forward slash we are channel. I'll just say if I was there at a protest and I saw someone or something like this trying to act a fool or get violent, I would stop them. I would. And we saw that there was a lot of this some of this went on there's really cool videos there was a guy who was ripping bricks off out of the sidewalk oh yeah and then activists left-wing activists

grabbed him and dragged him to the police and they were like get him out of here we do not want this and then the cops even let one of the guys go like he got caught up in it and they were like okay you're cool and they arrested the guy who was vandalizing stuff that's what you need to see now i don't know what people should do for legal reasons. I have no idea. So talk to the organizers, but don't let people do any of that crazy stuff because you will get some Antifa type who's going to

show up wearing a MAGA hat and be like, I'm going to make them all look crazy. That's the problem is someone could go there, put on a MAGA hat and throw a brick and then that gives the government authority to like send in troops. One guy can do that's crazy so we did we dealt with this and this is before smartphones were such a thing but i was a tea party organizer and we organized that massive march in 2009 on the mall and and you

know no arrests no violence um a couple kids got. We found them again. It was like this beautiful bottom-up thing. But eventually, people that wanted to sort of smear our reputation showed up. And one of the tactics we used, which I believe we borrowed from the left, was we created signs that said, this guy's not with us. And we would surround a bad actor. And we don't know if the guy's a bad actor from our side or their side, but if the behavior's wrong, if they were, if they were doing something violent or something racist,

we would just surround them and they would just leave because they were outed. And it's, it's hard to police a grassroots movement and the way that MLK did it with his march on Washington, it was very carefully scripted. The signs were created by the organizers. That's not how it works anymore. So you've got to figure out some way to police your own community.

You have zero tolerance for bad behavior, no matter who's doing it. What do you guys think is going to happen? Peaceful? Massive? How many people do you think? Some people are estimating 100,000, but I think those are overinflated numbers. And you usually see numbers overinflated. But at the same time, we haven't seen a protest here in the United States for a very long time.

Compare that to what's been happening in France, in Austria, in Australia, in Germany, in the United Kingdom. There have been massive protests with tens of thousands of people, some instances even hundreds of thousands of people coming to the streets saying enough is enough. And I think just being able to see that kind of larger representation does have some kind of larger political change and does put into people's minds that they're not alone. And I think that's important. And I think peaceful rallying and peaceful protests are extremely important. And, you know, who knows what's going to happen but um i'm going to be there to see it's winter we got a snowstorm coming this weekend i'm not i don't want to be debbie downer but i'm not confident i was just like in my brain i was like i was just gonna call you a debbie downer uh we were supposed to go hiking for like so long and tim's like now it's gonna rain

that's raining no we go and it's not raining now we're supposed to go hiking this weekend and tim's like oh it's gonna snow we're not going i'm like it's fake news we's like, no, it's going to rain. It's raining. And then we go and it's not raining. And now we're supposed to go hiking this weekend. And Tim's like, oh, it's going to snow. We're not going. I'm like, we're going to go anyway. No, it's not. It's true news. It's absolutely true news. Let me tell you the facts.

The first was actually raining. It was literally raining outside. And Luke said, who cares? Let's go anyway. And I said, bro, it says it's going to keep raining until 2 p.m. Yes. I don't think it's good to drive two hours and then just be like, well, it was raining and we knew it was raining

and then waste the day driving two hours back. As it turns out, the rain stopped where Luke ended up going hiking and he was fine. The only thing that really happened was I wasn't willing to take the risk and Luke was and it benefited Luke. That's the true news. Stop being fake news, Luke. I keep telling you the, the, the,

the weather reports keep lying to you, man, just like the media does. And then even if it is raining, it'd still be an interesting hike to go on. We just bring weather gear and still enjoy the hike rather than just now. Here's the false framing from Luke. While we were going to go hiking this weekend,

there is a report that a major winter storm is coming. So what we said was, how about we go snowboarding or skiing instead? So we still go up to the mountain. We still get the views. And Luke said no. When? Now that's fake news. That's fake news on your part.

I never said no on that part. You want to go like next weekend and whatever. Well, yeah, because it's a couple-hour drive through the snow. We have to stay the night. But, Luke, you work Sundays. But that through the snow. We have to stay the night. But Luke, you work Sundays. That's the truth. Luke trying to smear me and trying to pull a Daily Beast over here.

You got me thinking, though, that if someone does decide to co-op the weather system and want to give us the fake news, that's a good way because people trust that implicitly. I've never heard anyone question the weather. Even when this past weekend, they said it was going to rain, and then it didn't rain. I'm telling you, there's no reason to believe the news, Tim.

There was actually a meteorologist who pointed this out. He said when they were predicting this big winter storm, he was like, the weather system is in the Pacific Ocean. There's no way you can accurately predict what it's going to do in the next two weeks. So I guess it is still, for the most part, coming true in a lot of ways. It's not the same as the projection from two weeks ago, obviously, but we're supposed to get hit with a big winter storm.

We're supposed to get very, very heavy snowfall out here. So that is bad news for us because fortunately it's happening over the weekend, but it usually means that it's harder to get out here. So we'll have to figure that stuff out. Drive safely, everyone. Yeah. Yep, yep.

In the middle of nowhere and the power could go out. Yikes. It'll be exciting. But how about we go to Super Chats? If you haven't already, smash that like button. Subscribe to this YouTube channel right now by clicking that little subscribe button or the podcast if you're listening on the podcast. And go to TimCast.com.

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Let's read what you guys have to say over in the Super Chats. All right, the first Super Chat. I'm sorry I can't read your name because YouTube blocks it for some reason. They say, let's start this show off right. Smash that like button. That's right. Excellent. Tim, we're about to breed our Nigerian dwarf goats and you're going to get the first baby goat.

I will accept the baby goat. Goats are awesome. I lived with goats in New Hampshire. They're really, really awesome to have this patch. I think once we were maybe four with goats in New Hampshire, they're really, really awesome to have this patch. And just those farms. I think once we were maybe four or five months out from being operational at Freedomistan, and we'll probably have goats. You like that?

Luke came up with the name. Yeah, that works for me. Did you get the URL? Because that's everything. I think we have it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, got to have it. And we're going to get,

like when you drive in, there's going to be a big sign that says Free Domestan. And I assume that LaFroig 25 will just pour from the faucets. Yeah, that's correct. For people who like whiskey, we're going to have a passport control. It's just going to be our security booth, but, like, you know, we're going to have the guy act like, you know, welcome to Free Domestan and, you know.

Different country. Yeah, it's a different country. It's not really, but, you know, it's going to be silly. It's a bar, like a tap bar with a bunch of different beers. But instead of beer, it's a bunch of different soaps, like really good soap. So you can get your organic lavender. I like that. It's actually not a bad idea for the bathroom.

That'd be cool. To have soap taps where you pull the thing down. That's a good idea. We should do that. That's kind of the end of the long tail. That's kind of a niche dream that you have there. We'll have like, you know, you'll have the raspberry lemon. You'll have the cucumber melon.

You'll have the mint. You'll have the goat's milk. And you'll, I'll do a blend today of lime soaps. Yeah. Yeah. Ian will put a lot of things on tap for you. All right. All right.

Normies Get Out says, look at me. Seamus is the captain now. Seamus is not here. Well, he's here in the building, but he's not here in the studio. He's physically with us. He's just not on the show. He'll be on the show at some point. He's doing, I don't know.

What does Seamus do? He's drawing pictures. Is that what he does all day? He talks on the phone a lot. Makes me laugh. He's drawing pictures of Fauci. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

And then he comes to me and he's like, Tim, can you be Fauci? And then I'm like, I will try. I can be. Normie's got says Seamus cast or no cast. It's Shim cast. Shim cast. No, we want Seamus. Shane cast.

All right. Abnormal Normal says my wife, who is a nurse, just received an email stating she will no longer have a job if not jabbed by the 29th. I will never shake the hand of someone on the other side. I am now ready to fight like never before by any means needed. The war is now. Well, this is what we fear because we don't want that. Don't let yourself get

radicalized, man. I mean, if the U.S. does break apart, then China just takes over. I like this, you know, bringing back the factories for the working class and strengthening this country and maintaining peace and everything. But if we start fighting each other, China is just going to be like,

all right, time for global communism, you know. So as the economist, I have a theory about what all of these very talented health care workers who are about to get fired can do. You're going to create a very rationed system within any organization that takes Medicare or Medicaid, but there's this thing called concierge medicine. There's this alternative form of medicine. And I think entrepreneurs are going to scoop these people up and they're going to make more money and they're going to practice medicine with a modicum of freedom.

So don't get depressed. Don't get desperate. Look for that alternative. And I think we should encourage everybody to say, like, let's take this as a win. The system's firing us, so let's go create something better. I didn't know this, but apparently wealthy people will just hire doctors. What? Yeah, did you know that?

I did know that. Yeah. I have heard about that. And like a company, so like an oil company will have a doctor on staff. That's awesome. And the CEO will be like, I need this medication.

And he'll go, you're right. And he'll fill out the prescription thing and hand it to him. Correct. That's crazy. One of the things I've been looking at too is all these things that aren't actually insurance, like MediShare.

And Tom Woods has one that he advertises that I always forget the name of. But these are not technically insurance companies, but they do offer coverage and they help you do things like they'll help you like crowdsource your bills, which I think is fantastic. So hopefully some of these people who are fired for refusing to be vaccinated can go over and work over there with them. Something that's coming to with 3D printing is medical is medicine. A lot of it is like artificial intelligence, building out medicines that are tailor fit for your body so that you'll get a unique form of medicine that is specific for you instead of these top down mandates of everyone take the same drug.

Yeah. I mean, the upside and we libertarians are very difficult to talking about the upside. And we talk all about how the government has destroyed the healthcare system. But there's this beautiful world where doctors and patients actually get to make decisions and innovation happens and innovative economic structures so that medicine becomes more affordable. I think the same thing is going to happen in healthcare that is happening right now in education, where more and more moms are saying, you know what? Screw your masks and your vax mandates and your Skype schooling. I'm going to go create a pod with my neighbors and teach my kids in an environment where they can actually thrive.

I think that's the upside of all this downside is that people are going to get innovative and practice a little bit of freedom. And speaking of freedom and innovation, Sir Weed Bong Ventura says, I'm unvaxxed and I still pooped my pants. Why? Sorry to hear it, sir. I'm sorry to hear it. Try fasting.

Thank you for sharing. Lay off the Chipotle. Does being vaxxed help you with that? I don't think retain your bowels. I think it's a joke. I love it. It's possibly a joke. I don't think retain your bowels. I think it's a joke. I love it. It's possibly a joke. I don't think they're seriously. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I am one with the comment section. I appreciate you guys. Lily Cake says, Walk a Shaw native here. Daryl Brooks Jr., Christmas parade monster. Preliminary hearing begins tomorrow. 75 plus charges.

Please do not let this fall off your radar. Take care, everyone. I agree. We absolutely should not allow them to sweep that story under the rug. I loved all the memes, though, where it showed the guy walking and his head was an SUV and it would show the news headline where it says,

SUV crashes into people, as if it was just the machine that did it. I liked the jokes, too, where it was like, Decepticon invades Earth. SUV crash into people. It wasn't the person who did it. Nope. Deplorable Eye says says i have not seen reports on the supply chain improving in the next six weeks as the winter weather continues to

worsen how soon do you expect food rights in major cities i don't know if we're going to see food rights for some time if at all to be honest hope not but i just um i do think with the um the canada backed down on their vax mandate for i don't know if it was canada but the u.s the canada border had a vax mandate they backed down on this because truckers for, I don't know if it was Canada But the Canada border had a Vax mandate They backed down on this because truckers were going to revolt We still could end up seeing Vax mandates at some point, but with the Supreme Court Striking this down I think things might actually

Improve a little bit I mean the winter is going to be a problem The lack of drivers is a problem But if the Supreme Court said, okay, Vax mandate This country would collapse overnight So I think the Supreme Court said, okay, vaccine mandate, this country would collapse overnight. So I think the Supreme Court had no choice. We're a very wealthy country. And the good news about being us is that the system, the economy, and everybody that's actually bringing food to your table, it mostly still works. And that's not true in every country, but it's true

in ours. So I don't expect to see food riots anytime soon in large part because of what you just said all right brett stubb says just happy the homie matt is on timcast an absolute legend ask about the dead abe lincoln gary johnson video good memories lol oh so we uh we created a uh gary johnson super pack ad that featured a comedian that dressed up like dead abe lincoln who was the first successful third party candidate and and we claim and i think it's i think it's mostly true that that was the most viral ad of 2016 um trump was super viral hillary spent a stupid amount of money trying to get people excited about her. And dead Abe Lincoln killed it.

Dead Abe Lincoln. All right. Jiffer says, Tim, I saw your episode of CNN's failing viewership. Trigger warning. Only Donald Trump can save CNN. How many liberals' heads just imploded? That was true, though. I mean, before Trump came on twitter twitter was actually

failing they were losing users like crazy they were changing their their metrics how they tracked users because they were trying to make the numbers look better and then trump came in and started calling people horse face and boom twitter all of a sudden was was was flourishing trump could have left at any point he didn't want to do it. All right. What is this? Tus Nolorum. Would you all grow up and stop acting like they are just being prudent? Major corps are the

only ones pushing it because they lead by never, they're led by never Trumpers. They are attacking political rivals and you are helping them by pretending to be reasonable. I don't know what that means. We are not fans of the big corporations. I think it's an unreasonable accusation against us. Yes. I don't know what that means. We are not fans of the big corporations. I think it's an unreasonable accusation against us. Yes.

I am triggered and outraged. Iggy the Incubus says, today is a good day for hope. In the words of Razorfist, accelerationism is just surrendering with alacrity, and the black pill is an effing

suppository. God effing speed to you all at the beanie compound well i'll tell you this man i decided to leave new york and that was a few years ago and look where they're at now i wasn't wrong about that i had to leave the philly area i wasn't wrong about that i'm out here in the middle of nowhere and hopefully not wrong about this i could be at any point i have no idea but i'm really glad i left new york and i'm not there now i'm really glad we spent some time in south jersey but considering what was going on in philly in the riots i'm really glad we left so if my you know predictions just stay slightly on track this is good i think people would be would would be wise

to get out of cities. Go find something. I live in like a state of existential horror when I look at the economy, the inflation. Like, okay, I've done some math in my life. I know what's happening and what's coming. When you look at the way that they're inflating the economy and what they did before the Great Depression, just – and in fact, check out a documentary on the Great Depression if you want to look at what it looked like leading up to that, that six weeks of fail or whatever it was. All right. Tim, will you commit to talk to my wife about this?

Because I still live on Capitol Hill, and we desperately need to get out of there. Yeah, man. I mean, we're not that far away. Yeah. It's only an hour to get out of there. Yeah, like it's closer than I thought. Yeah. So we got 50 acres, and it's only an hour and a half from D.C.

It's actually really close, and that could be a problem for us, but it's far enough away to where we've got freedom and space and private land. It's unrestricted, and we can still get access to the airport for guests to come in and out. So that's kind of the compromise. Did you hear that, Terry? She's listening. I'm looking straight to camera on this one. Oh, and cheap, man, too.

I was looking at a plot. I think it was like 30 acres for 100K. You've got to build on it, but, you know, 30 acres, man. Be Real says, well, people are okay with this half-baked potato as long as the bad orange man can't tweet mean things anymore. That's correct. Indeed, he is a half-baked potato. That's where we are. That was the bargain.

Venal houseplant, Joe Biden. Okay. Jacob Villa says, in April of 2022 the international classification of diseases is introducing new medical codes one is z28310 unvaccinated for covid19 i work in him as a rhia do you know what that means lydia i have no idea what that is this is very concerning to me doctors are now documenting reasons for vax refusal in their soap notes. Huh. RHI registered health information administrator. Oh, there you go. Okay, perfect.

It doesn't say it sounds medical with all those acronyms. Glizzy Water says, from yesterday's show, I became an owner-operator trucker to not have to get the vax, and it was weird you talked about truckers as I got off the exit to Harper's Ferry today. Ooh, spooky. Nice. Creepy. Simulation speaks. We have a lot of listeners that are truckers. Yeah, it's great. Oh, yeah. Nice. Creepy. Simulation speaks.

We have a lot of listeners that are truckers. Yeah, it's great. Oh, yeah. Yeah, because we have time to listen. I mean, what a great show to listen to while you're trucking along the United States. It's a couple hours. There you go. And supplying the country.

It's an important job. People don't realize how important truckers are. I think it's the most important job in the country. Absolutely. 100%. Yeah, it's like red blood cells. Yeah. Delivering the oxygen. Great comparison. The resources. percent. Yeah, it's like red blood cells. Yeah. Delivering the oxygen.

Great comparison. The resources. Yes. Yeah, carrying the oxygen that we need to the locations, to the organs. Wow, it really is. It's so wild how it's fractal. Yeah. And if you've ever zoomed out of a highway and see all the little trucks moving back

and forth. It's just like blood. Yeah, it's like carrying the resources into and out of. It's crazy. It's so cool. Transporting all the goods. Fun stuff. And we have to keep

the laptop class fed. Yeah, of course. Yeah, absolutely. We have to do that. Gotta bring the food into New York. Buzzfeed flip-flop wearing yuppies.

Oh, man. All right. Christopher says, dude, Trump isn't going to get reelected. The Republicans are not going to win 2022. Now that people have

actually been arrested for sedition, the Dems are going to disqualify them mtg told you as much you think i mean we talked about it a bit but what do you think you think it'll happen we'll see i mean no one has a i believe it is variable at this point depending on how we act the next couple years jeffrey says i think ian is right trump is a fire without enough fuel who is who's nathan hale oh he was uh he's a patriot oh yeah we need the nathan hale attitude i regret that i have but one life to give for my country he died oh wow mel g says can someone make a shirt of desantis riding a flaming

bull through the white house i bet it already exists honestly yeah as soon as we said it trump will be the flaming bull dragon lady says didn't think i'd be able to watch tonight gotta a flaming bowl through the White House. I bet it already exists, honestly. Yeah, as soon as we said it. Trump will be the flaming bowl. Dragon Lady says, Didn't think I'd be able to watch tonight. Gotta get up early. But then I saw Matt was going to be on. His Don't Hurt People and Don't Take Their Stuff is the best libertarian book of the last decade.

Also, Lydia, the Kitty Mosaic rocks. Yeah. So you have a book. It's the title of the same thing. This t-shirt is stolen from the book. Number two New York Times bestseller. Don't hurt people and don't take their stuff. A libertarian manifesto.

Hey, I looked at the site and it looks like that particular shirt right now is sold out. Do you know when it might be back? We actually talked about it this week. It'll be there. Awesome. I want to order one. Overdressed says, Luke's speech. People who speak many languages often don't feel the same importance in saying words in the right way

there is no right way only getting the information and emotion across he probably speaks Polish at home thank you I dream Polish which is actually pretty pretty weird as well so I'm not dyslexic that's interesting to find out I have a question if you have

a dream and say Ian's in it would Ian be speaking Polish to you? I don't know. I'm not sure. Do it and let me know. I don't know if I can manifest my dreams in my dream world. Ian's like, Luke, dream of me. Just breathe out really slow when you dream. Sometimes they're in English.

Sometimes they're in Polish, which is weird. But predominantly it's Polish. When I'm talking to somebody or someone's talking to me at home, I speak with my family in Polish. I was born in Poland. I was raised in Poland. So obviously, there's a lot of Polish still in my mind, especially when I'm trying to express ideas in such a quick, unscripted way. Sometimes my signals get jumbled, but it happens.

One of the great things about English is you can build new words. It's built to do that like just a faction. I've been doing that a lot here. I've been embracing my Luke-isms. It's really cool. It's just who I am. Take it or leave it. We understand you.

Wow. Logan says, Matt, what are your thoughts on the Mises Caucus? I am a big fan. So the Mises Caucus is a wing of the Libertarian Party, and I am a big fan of all of their work against lockdowns. And I'm kind of a one-issue person right now, and I think they've done a heroic job. I will say that some libertarians have been a little skittish about opposing lockdowns and vaccine mandates, and I don't get that. I don't get that from a libertarian perspective.

It doesn't make any sense to me. John Galian says, Tim, Cuomo did not have the mercy. It was the comfort. Luke, where's the shirt anti-Fauchist? Ian, graphene is just gentrified pencil. Oh, my. Uh-oh.

Whoa, that's fighting words. The major truth box there. It's more finely refined. I like that. Very pointed comment. Are you going to make an anti-Fauchist? That sounds good. I'm going to talk to my team about it now. There you go. Anti-Fao. I'll work with Very pointed comment. Are you going to make an anti-Fauchist? That sounds good. I'm going to talk to my team about it now.

I'll work with you on this. We have a sticker, Fauchism, and it's Fauci with the puppets. What's going to be the flag, though? Is it going to be like a black and yellow flag? What's the symbol inside of the old Antifa symbol? But instead of Antifa, it's Fauci-ism? It's just a mask. Oh, yeah. Antifauciist action.

Yes. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, I like that. Antifauciist. With our own Antifa flag. Yes. Sean Anderson says, Matt, if the next three years in this country was a Rush song, which would it be? One, Closer to the Heart. Two, Bastille Day. Or three, Grand Finale from 2112. Oh, I have to give some context. I'm going to say Closer to the Heart. Two, Bastille Day. Or three, Grand Finale from 2112.

Oh, I have to give some context. I'm going to say Closer to the Heart because I'm trying to be an optimist. But at the end of 2112, which is referenced, the good guy kills himself because the state has destroyed his life. So we don't want that to happen. I'll stick with Closer to the Heart. Let's go Closer to the Heart. Closer to the Heart. It's a great song. I love it. Sing it, Ian. Closer to the Heart. Let's go with Closer to the Heart. Closer to the Heart. It's a great song.

I love Rockfin. Sing it, Ian. Closer to the Heart. Sing it. Nice. You can hit those notes. All right. Brian S. says, to no bread tube, watch Max Blumenthal with Caleb Maupin on Rockfin.

Bread tube is against the left. They're just democratic establishment. And get Max Blumenthal on as a good example of the real left. Yes. That'd be great. That would be fantastic. Yeah, I've seen him go by. Yeah, and we've referenced him before.

I certainly think we disagree on a lot of things, but I think he is absolutely anti-establishment. He does seem not crazy, which I appreciate. I know that we have been smeared together in the past by the— Smeared together, that's a great phrase. Yeah, Southern Poverty Law Center wrote a smear against me, him, and some other people. And for me, it was like they passively just smeared together. That's a great phrase. Yeah, he's a Southern Poverty Law Center wrote a smear against me, him, and some other people. And for me, it was like they passively just smeared me. He was the focus of the article, but they'd include my name or whatever.

They had to issue an apology. It's like a badge of honor when the SPLC attacks you. They got me a couple years ago, too. Yeah. All right. Seriously says, stop ragging on Luke for his mispronunciations. We all know he sucks at speaking, but that's why we love him. Hey, I could take it.

Don't tell Tim what to do. It's fine. He doesn't suck at speaking. What the heck? Also, what are the chances you could widen the font on your website just a tad? Often looks blurry. Why? I don't know.

Maybe. It's a design issue. We'll talk to the designers. But I don't know. All right. Jay Farr says, I know they probably hate each other, and it may sound crazy, but the smart move is a Trump DeSantis in 24 for Trump's final term, then DeSantis and someone else in 28 and 32 for a MAGA America first three-peat. Eddie Cage, it's a thought. Love you guys.

Let's go, Brandon. I actually agree with that. Yeah, that would be the rational thing to do. We talked about this a few weeks ago, but we said because of the ego there, especially with Trump firing the first shots against DeSantis, I do not believe that will happen because DeSantis, I believe, would would get too much attention. And Donald Trump would be jealous of that. But Donald Trump also wants someone who's completely different than him. That's why he brought in someone like a Pence, who's a big statist, to kind of

counterbalance him. But I think the two are going to be fighting. It's going to get crazy, and it's going to get wild between these two. Jordan says, have you reached out to Jimmy Dore? Would love to see him on the show. Travel might be the difficult thing. Where's Jimmy? Is it California? I think so. But Jimmy's fantastic. He's great. I love Jimmy Dore. So we would love to have him on the show uh travel might be the difficult thing i think where's jimmy's california i think so but jimmy's fantastic he's great i love jimmy door uh so we would love to

have him on the show he'd be awesome yeah i will i will i will say this too like the challenge of trying to get people who have their own shows on our show is that we're asking them not to do their show to do our show so it's it's difficult you know so when people are like why won't tim come on my show i'm like i do my own show and i don't expect you to abandon your show for my show either so i'm not going to cry about some of these you know prominent leftists not wanting to come on if they're doing a show but many of these leftists aren't show hosts they're leftists you know columnists or anything like that all right let's see we'll grab some more super chats save me from canada says well we'll try yes sure our drive for war might decrease but who would want china to dominate the world that is a war that would be necessary to keep freedom they are

an expansionist authoritarian empire that's that's that's that's a difficult thing man what do you do i mean the the the left in this country is overwhelmingly authoritarian but so is the communist party and if we fight it they're going to end up winning. Stop feeding the beast. Start prioritizing and voting with your dollar. I mean, what a lot of these multinational corporations do is essentially giving China exactly what they need to grow their empire. And it wouldn't be possible if it wasn't for our consumerism. So that's another aspect that is definitely worth considering here, in my opinion.

But, God, how do you get people to stop consuming? Well, bringing back jobs and factories to the United States could be a start. Incentivizing programs that don't just focus on slave labor would be another one. Consume locally. Yeah. All right. Little Tales Farm says, Hey, Tim, here's another super chat. YouTube, quit blocking my name. It's Little Tales Farm says, hey, Tim, here's another super chat. YouTube, quit blocking my name.

It's Little Tales Farm. It's U.S. Little Tales Farm. With the first goat super chat, you're getting our first born. It would be an honor, bro. I think we would all love the goat. I'm so down. You need two. You can't have one.

You need at least two. We need two. Give us your second born as well. The best of your goats. Little Tales Farm, I think y'all were the ones who posted that funny video of the chicken house yeah and then like the camera goes is a house and it goes with the window and there's a chicken just in the window like looking out and it was just really funny chickens are really funny so in my office it's all windows all the way around it's like a sunroom and i can see the chicken city, it's all windows all the way around. It's like a sunroom. And I can see the chicken city.

And it's really funny because I was working the other day, and then I'm reading some article when all of a sudden I hear a begock. And I look over, and one of the chickens apparently had grabbed a cricket or something, and it was being chased in circles by all the other chickens. They're playing cricket. Because they want to steal the cricket from its mouth. And I was just watching them all run in circles for like a minute. And I'm just like, man, these things are crazy. They're communists. This is

why you need goats. I'm looking forward to the goats screaming though, right? No, only the male goats, right? Bleating, I believe is the phrase. No, they scream. Have you ever watched that video? Goats scream? Yeah, it's their great. Did you put them in the city

with the chickens or they hang out in the yard? No, I think the goats will have their own separate area. Goat town. Goat. That was a movie, right? Silence of the Goats. Silence of the Goats. Gotta shut them up. Free Men Die Free says it's time to get

the great Ron Paul. It's time the great Ron Paul is brought on the show. It would break the internet and with the mainstream media in shambles, it's the right time to hit them hard. It. It's time the great Ron Paul is brought on the show. It would break the internet, and with the mainstream media in shambles, it's the right time to hit them hard. It would be an honor and a privilege to have a star and angel on the show in one man. Can you make it happen, Luke? I reached out, but it's

also two hours. It's also very late, so we would probably have to change our shooting program in order to do it. We could maybe... He's in Texas? He's around Houston, Texas. Closer to Galveston. Maybe we need to go out there for another adventure. I agree. And then we could do it and we could shoot

it a little bit earlier. We could do a segment and then we could do the show and be like, here's the interview we did with Dr. Paul. We could probably shoot it in his house. He has a beautiful house. He has the Liberty Tree there. We could start the show with it and then it would be maybe like a half an hour or however long he was able to go, because he's an older guy. And then it would just jump to the regular show, and we'd finish off live.

I love Rand, too. We went to him, and last time I talked to him, Ron won't get on a plane as long as he has to wear a mask. Don't blame him, man. He's like, F you. I'm Ron Paul. Do we need to just get him a private plane? Oh.

Fly him out here in style? Private planes have gotten really, really expensive. That probably works. Yeah, you think so? I don't know. We'll ask him. I'll ask him. I really love the idea of having Rand and Rondal

to get on together. Because I've never seen them hanging out together talking about politics. That'd be really fun. Not that we do one and the other, but I'd love to see them. Yeah, Rand just did Ron's show. Oh. I assume he was in Texas. So I think that would be a cool thing.

All right. Yeah, the studios are in Texas. It's really crazy to me how they're able to vilify Rand Paul when he just – he made the Breonna Taylor no-knock warrant bill and the left attacked him. What is wrong with these people? Like Rand Paul, people should just be like – I can imagine people being like, well, I don't completely agree with him, but he's a good dude. But they just hate him. And he was right all along, especially when it came to all the information surrounding Dr. Fauci. He was accurate.

He was honest. And that is just epic. His confrontations with Fauci, well-researched, holding up the documents. I guess that's what it's all about. If you're an authoritarian, you don't like someone challenging the authority. So they don't like him. My friends, if you haven't already, smash that like button. Do it for Ian.

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If you want to check out... We primarily make documentaries. If you want to check them out, go to freethepeople.org. We did a beautiful anti-lockdown video called All We Have. It's emotionally devastating, but it's something that we wanted to connect with people outside of our community. And just check it out. Cool. Maybe we could even work on something in the future. Let's definitely talk about that. Today, I played a really funny video of Dr. Fauci exposing himself in my YouTube report on

youtube.com forward slash we are changed. It's definitely worth a watch. And I did another video about the fight in Florida on Luke uncensored.com. Hope to see some of you guys there. Thanks for having me. And this was a great conversation, even though it got pretty testy in the comment section, especially with some of the Trump criticism there. I,

you know, Hey, you know, I, I, I appreciate the, the criticism. And if you have any hey, you know, I appreciate the criticism. And if you have any evidence or counterpoints, I'm always open to hearing your point of views.

And I'll say this, too. Like, this is an eclectic show, man. Yeah. Yeah. And thanks for pointing out when my TDS got a little fiery. I made an assumption about maybe something Trump thought or felt. I don't have any justification for that. And that anger was unjustifiable.

So I apologize for letting that out, although I'm glad I went through it. Hey, and I want to shout out your Twitter, mkibby on Twitter. mkibby on Twitter. And where can people get the shirt? I'm told that it's not available at this very moment, but at free2people.org we have a shop,

and we have all sorts of cool things, and you can get our Fauci-ism gear as well and uh it's it's very cool stuff we have a we have an artist on staff who's a very accomplished comic book artist and he does all of our stuff it's really cute and it's really cool well follow me at iancrossland.net i'll catch you guys later i did check out the shop for free the people so let's switch the camera properly i did check out out the shop for Free the People. That version of the shirt is not available with the yellow, which I love, but there is one that's like gray

and has black print on it. It's black and has gray print. So if you guys want that shirt, just not necessarily with the yellow, which I know is a libertarian color, you can still get it on the site, freethepeople.org. Anarchist color.

Anarchist shop. Steelers, by the way. Exactly, yeah. It's a lot of different colors. The yellow is good. freethepeople.org shop. Shop. Excellent shop.

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