Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #449 - Anti Trumper Who Attacked Mar-A-Lago NOT GUILTY By Reason of Insanity w/Carey Wedler

Episode Date: January 19, 2022

Tim, Ian, Luke, and Lydia join commentator and YouTuber Carey Wedler to discuss the anti-Trump woman who attempted to drive her vehicle into Mar-A-Lago, Ethan Klein's cowardice in the face of leftist ...rage, the anti-war left-wing news organization blacklisted by Pinterest and Google alongside of right-wing pro-life organizations, CNN's new team of reporters who will be 'combating misinformation' in the world's most ironic twist, the trucker protest at the US/Canada border that stopped traffic outright by blocking the road, and Dr. Fauci's declaration that there are five stages to a pandemic - and we are still in stage one. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Some crazy woman rammed the security at Mar-a-Lago, which is Donald Trump's winter White House, of course, you all know that. And she was just found not guilty. And I was surprised to hear it until I read further. And it said, by reason of insanity. And then I thought, is Trump derangement syndrome becoming an actual diagnosis? Because I remember that big story about Trump anxiety disorder. And now you have this lady who actually like attacked the facility. Well, the reality is she was literally off her meds, but I think it's interesting considering just how insane many people have become. And the crazy thing to me about everything happening is particularly with the medical
Starting point is 00:00:41 narrative going on. If you understand my, uh understand my reference, the gaslighting. That Joe Biden can come out and say, we're going to stop the spread, we're going to slow the spread, and now here we are today, and it's just, the gaslighting is insane. As if people can't remember what was said five minutes ago, or they just keep accepting what the media tells them when the story changes every day. At a certain point, I'm like, yo, it's going to change again tomorrow. But we'll talk about all this. We've got a bunch of other stories too.
Starting point is 00:01:05 We've got the murder rate skyrocketing across the U.S. It's the Democrat in Florida talking about Ron DeSantis. Yeah, Nicky Freed. Yeah, saying that he was what, like Hitler or something? Wow, well, great. Okay, well, joining us to talk about all of the absurdities of the modern condition is Carrie Wedler. How's it going? Great.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Thank you so much for having me. I'm glad to be here. Do you want to introduce yourself? Sure. I'm Carrie Wedler. I got my start on YouTube. I was radicalized by Ron Paul and have evolved since then. I found my way to a news organization called theantimedia.org, where I was editor-in-chief for years until we were banned by big tech in 2018. And I'm still just making my dissident videos out here advocating peace and freedom and uh challenging the establishment and the government at large sounds fun kind of like what luke is doing crazy talk you crazy
Starting point is 00:01:56 it's really nice to have my anti-statist friend here carrie weidler. That's why I decided to also wear my anti-statist T-shirt today that says, War is murder. Taxation is theft. Police are gangs. Politicians are criminals. It's one of the less serious shirts that I have. It used to be my tagline when I used to play video games. Every time I used to be in a room with random people, I always said that. It started very interesting conversations. Sometimes eight-year-olds would be like, oh, yeah, definitely. Sometimes other police officers that are playing with me would be like, okay, we're going to get angry.
Starting point is 00:02:29 And it was interesting debates and conversations. But if you like the T-shirt and you want it, you can get it on thebestpoliticalshirts.com. And because you do, I'm here. Thank you so much for coming, Kerry. It should be a great conversation. I also have my anti-status T-shirt on. It says wearechange.org. That's a good website.
Starting point is 00:02:45 I like that. Can I get this on thebestpolitical-shirts? Yes, you can. Dot com. I've been a big fan of We Are Change for a long time. I'm glad that you were the one that... Well, I don't know. You didn't invent it, but you basically ran it for the first 20 years. Well, we all started. It was a youth group in the beginning, but it all expanded and grew in very interesting ways. Hey, you guys, fallmediancrossland.net. Ian Crossland here. Happy to be here. I am also here in the corner pushing buttons. Very delighted to have a lovely lady in the studio with us and happy to fuel my own personal anarchist fires
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Starting point is 00:03:51 first story from the Daily Mail. Connecticut opera singer who rammed through Mar-a-Lago security blockade and narrowly escaped Secret Service bullets in January 2020 is found not guilty by reason of insanity. Hannah Romhild, 32, was found not guilty by reason of insanity. Hannah Romhild, 32, was found not guilty by reason of insanity on Tuesday. Her attorney said she had a history of mental illness and had stopped taking her medication before she drove through the Mar-a-Lago security blockade. She must undergo psychiatric treatment and counseling and take medications with monthly blood tests to confirm compliance.
Starting point is 00:04:24 She pulled her rented Jeep into the parking lot of the Breaker as a luxury hotel and began dancing on her car and making obscene gestures. She led police in a dangerous chase where police and Secret Service fired at her vehicle as she swerved checkpoints. She then drove to the airport to pick up her mother, okay, before being arrested at a nearby motel. So I don't know if this lady was actually motivated by anything political but seeing stories like this i have to wonder i was i was on twitter and i saw some people making posts about how their therapist had said this that or otherwise
Starting point is 00:04:54 and i thought to myself it's kind of weird that all of these like democrat personalities have therapists right is there something to this that people with trump derangement syndrome they don't they need someone to help them think properly be it or maybe a medication home think properly or i think when you live in the military industrial complex in the empire the heart of the empire it's hard not to go crazy i particularly when i lived in la for like eight nine years i thought i needed a therapist it wasn't until i started speaking my mind on the internet fluidly daily monday through friday that i stopped feeling the need to look outside for help because I'm finding it here within myself or at least in this table conversation.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Yeah, if you live in major city areas, the likelihood of you having mental health issues actually goes up dramatically compared to the suburbs. But with this particular story, who said it doesn't pay to be crazy, right? I mean, she got off, had all of her charges dropped, but on a serious note, there is a mental health crisis that this country is dealing with that is getting worse by the day. And there has been a lot of circumstantial evidence suggesting that it's because of social media use. Again, circumstantial evidence correlation does not prove causation, but I think it's fair to say a lot of people are losing their marbles, losing their minds. There's a lot of doctors easily prescribing SSRIs, easily prescribing addictive painkillers to individuals that have an effect on their life. You want early treatment for COVID? No, no, no, no, no, no. Painkills, SSRIs, poop, you're going to get it right away,
Starting point is 00:06:20 which is absolutely crazy with how our medical institution is run today. Dana White brought that up. He's at a press conference. He's like, I bet I can get these pain pills before I can get monoclonal antibodies. But the other thing, too, is what we're talking about with CNN when I think it was like Brian Stelter. He was like the trauma of January 6th, the journalist's trauma. Like they're sitting in an air conditioned building in New York City. They're nowhere near the Capitol and they're experiencing trauma. Well, this story from vox back in 2021 people are not okay the mental
Starting point is 00:06:50 health impact of the trump era yo i got a solution it's not therapy it's not medication it's turning off the computer it's turning off the monitor screen and going in like i don't know smelling flowers or something turn it off the boob tube yeah like turn off the tv turn off the fear mongering when you look at what the corporate media feeds into people's minds, it is absolute trash and garbage. It is some of the most destructive, negative, low vibrational thinking
Starting point is 00:07:14 that you could have in your existence jammed down your throat by Dr. Fauci, by Anderson Cooper, by all these smear merchants saying breaking news, fear mongering.
Starting point is 00:07:23 You're supposed to be afraid because of this today. You're supposed to give up your rights because mongering. You're supposed to be afraid because of this today. You're supposed to give up your rights because of this today. You're supposed to live in your pod, eat the bugs, be in the metaverse because it is good for you. And then people are following those orders, doing what they're told,
Starting point is 00:07:36 and they're learning that they're miserable. Gee, I wonder why. Well, I don't think there's anything wrong with therapy whatsoever. I think, and this might be a controversial opinion, but I don't think there's anything even wrong with being emotional. I know there's a big backlash against the left because they're so emotional. I would argue they are emotional, but it's unmitigated reactive emotion. Being human, you're going to have emotions. But I
Starting point is 00:07:57 think the issue here is really that people don't have a container to hold their emotions, and therefore they act out in ways like this, and you end up with chaos all over the place. In fact, I think the solution to that is to be more comfortable with emotion, to be able to better feel it and hold space for yourself and of course others. But I think it's people's inability to do that that leads to this chaos over emotional reaction. Like pharmaceutical drugs? What do you pinpoint as the reason why people are having a difficult time with their emotions right now? I mean, I think people have always struggled with emotions. Like to be human is to suffer.
Starting point is 00:08:27 And this is sort of a Buddhist belief. But I mean, who hasn't suffered? Who hasn't felt difficult emotions? I think it's people's tendency to want to avoid the discomfort by, say, taking pills. And I'm not saying it's never appropriate to take pills if you have a mental health condition. I don't know your experience. I don't know why you would be on them. But I think obviously they're over-prescribed. And I think that's ultimately an attempt by people and the
Starting point is 00:08:47 providers to just numb it out instead of just building the inner resources to be able to sit with it. And there's a ton of stuff in our society that incentivizes avoiding feeling, avoiding expressing your emotions, avoiding dealing with any kind of hardship or any kind of hard truth realities as they're giving everyone medals as they're congratulating everyone and and denying them the basic truth of this world that it is difficult it is hard it's not fair life will never be fair but these people are told it's always going to be fair everything's going to be fine you're going to get a trophy just by participating and they're realizing holy crap the real world doesn't work that way they're having a
Starting point is 00:09:22 big reality check they don't know how to deal with those emotions they go online and they they're realizing, holy crap, the real world doesn't work that way. They're having a big reality check. They don't know how to deal with those emotions. They go online and they're consumed by the algorithms that control them or by other adult content, especially young children are doing this that they shouldn't be watching that rewires their brain to be working in such negative, horrible ways that creates destructive relationships and disharmony in people's personal lives? I think a lot of people over the past seven years, you know, since the start of the media's obsession with Trump have been dealing with an ever shifting news landscape that keeps changing its opinions and mocking people when they don't know exactly what the new narrative is. So if you take a look at like, I don't know, Joe Biden comes out and he says, if you get the vaccine,
Starting point is 00:10:05 this is Joe Biden saying this, it's going to stop the spread of COVID, paraphrasing. Now that's not true. Today they say it will reduce the severity of symptoms, but there's a major shift. So if you're somebody who's like, I don't know, you're a, you were, you're an accountant, you know, you, you don't watch the news all day, every day, you see the story and you're like, okay, I see the president speaking, the news changes. And then you see the news again a week later and it's a 180 from where they were. And now you're sitting there saying like, has anyone noticed this? You're thinking to yourself, something doesn't make sense. And then you go to someone or you go online and you post like, this seems strange to me. And what happens? They attack you for it. You get attacked,
Starting point is 00:10:42 you get insulted, you get smeared. I think this is driving people insane. It's making people insane. You look at the news about Trump and the media lies every single day and it's escalating and getting worse and worse and all the lies. And they've still been lying about the guy, even though it's been, you know, a year or a long, a little bit longer than a year since he was in the office or just about a year since he was in office. They keep lying lying but you can't have these these different things be true at the same time but if you try and speak out you'll be attacked for it seems like there's three types of insanity there's the people that believe that the narrative shift and without questioning it that's a type of insanity just going with the flow then there's the
Starting point is 00:11:18 people that question the change in the narrative and call it out and get called insane and then they start to go insane because they're like, why am I being attacked for questioning this? Then there's the people that see it all and think it's all crazy. Those people are just considered insane. That's kind of where I'm at anyway. I mean, I tweet about this stuff and I actually have like prominent politically homeless journalists responding to me saying like, well, the new narrative is this, you know, particularly talking about
Starting point is 00:11:45 vaccines. Here's the new narrative. And I'm like, how did we shift in three months dramatically on whatever the narrative is currently? I will not be gaslit. Sorry. I don't care. And so I think what happens when you have people like this woman, she goes insane.
Starting point is 00:11:59 I mean, granted, she was on meds, got off her meds, that I get. But there are a lot of people like this that are angry and insane. And it's because how do you vent your frustrations with an ever-changing world? You have a worldview, but it's not solidified because people keep changing and lying. I think Yuri Bezmenov talks about this, demoralization. Eventually, people are just like, I can't tell what's real anymore because the news is changing what they said a month ago. And then they drive a car through a checkpoint screaming and dancing and making obscene gestures because they're just their brains erupt.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Yep. In a sick society, mental illness is a byproduct of it. And someone said today, and I tweeted this officially, saying that the bankers will ensure that we stay in debt. The pharmaceutical companies will ensure that we stay sick. The weapons manufacturers will ensure that we keep going to war. The media will ensure we are prevented from knowing the truth. The government will ensure all of this is done legally. And I think we're living in this kind of society that has almost every step that people take in it set for them as a trap that benefits only the ruling elites
Starting point is 00:13:05 and creates mass human suffering for everyone else. Sorry, I cut you off, Carrie. That's okay. No, it was just to speak to the gaslighting, especially when it comes to the media. Let's just say, let's just say that everything they report now is completely accurate and true and vetted, and they're being completely honest. Even then, given their decades, if not longer, track record of blat blatantly lying of blatantly peddling government narratives you still like how are you going to be angry at someone for not trusting them
Starting point is 00:13:30 even if they were telling the truth right now because of the history how could you possibly shame someone for having hesitations i think it's because you're showing that you're free you've exited the cave where the silhouettes are dancing and some of these people are aware they're being lied to and they don't have the courage to do what you've done. So they would rather stand with the mob and say no. Right? Crabs in a bucket. They're going to pull you back in, attack you.
Starting point is 00:13:54 But I'll tell you this, man. I don't remember the exact quote from Breitbart that has been brought up several times. Something about like, you know, go towards the fire on the other side is freedom. It was something like that. Yeah. I can't remember exactly. But what I was told, it was explained to me, is that everybody is standing around and there's this wall of fire. They're terrified.
Starting point is 00:14:12 And they're told by everyone around you, don't go near it. It's bad. And some people say, I'm going to run and jump through it. And on the other side, it's a party. It's a beach. There's the ocean. There's food. And they're like, you made it out.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Congratulations. And on the other side is freedom. And there are people trapped inside, scared to come out and find that, yo man, it's freeing, right? The funny thing about this, there was this post that went viral during the, during Trump's first campaign. And it was, someone took a coming out story about a guy who was gay and they changed gay to Trump supporter. And it was funny because it went viral because all the Trump supporters were like, wow, this resonates with me because the person was saying things like I wasn't being true to myself. I was hiding who I was. I was scared that if I told people the truth about what I thought and what I felt, they would attack me and they would smear me. And then it ended up getting picked up because Trump supporters
Starting point is 00:15:00 resonated with it when it was applied to their views. I think that was a big thing that the internet helped make. It's one of the reasons why censorship is so big. It's one of the reasons why they're trying to ban everybody because community is important to tell you. When you hear that voice on the other side of the wall of flame telling you, hey man, we're all chilling. It's fine. Just jump through and like we're partying and then people go for it and they're like, this is so much better. I don't have to freak out it's not confusing anymore i don't have to worry about those people being attacked there's a community they'll support we'll support each other but for the people who are trapped inside the matrix it's terrifying interesting this your metaphor goes
Starting point is 00:15:37 right up along mine whereas if the government was like an abusive father in a relationship and like beating up the kids you and your siblings and then one night there's a fire in the house and the dad's like, come on, we got to get out. We got to get out. And you're like, no, I don't trust you. You've been abusive. And your siblings like, dude, it's an emergency COVID in this, in this metaphor. That's an emergency.
Starting point is 00:15:54 We have to listen to the abusive guy, even though we don't want to, because he's the authority. But then you realize the flames aren't hot. I mean, that's along with your metaphor. It's an elusive. So it seems to be an elusive emergency. It's a difficult analogy. I mean, I think COVID is nasty, right? COVID is nasty.
Starting point is 00:16:12 But the reaction to COVID is insane. I got it really bad. COVID's nasty, man. Yeah, Ian and I had COVID, like, comparably bad. Yeah, you almost died, both of you. We were both just like... It was too early to tell yeah four days in of no treatment and i was like i'm ready to try something you gotta do something
Starting point is 00:16:29 i was i called the hospital yeah that's how bad i had and i'm like it's it's seriously bad but you're right the the response has been insane but more importantly i'm reading the media narratives on social media and it's just i'm'm sorry, man, people are insane. They're insane. I'm sorry. If you know that the narrative is bunk on a lot of this stuff on policy, especially on mandates, but you keep just agreeing with whatever it is Fauci says next, even though if we were to play every soundbite from every interview, it would be the most nonsensical garbage you've ever heard. If you're going to go along with that, you are willfully lying.
Starting point is 00:17:08 You are nuts. Yeah, so I was talking about this on the way home last night, and we came up with the conclusion that it's probably that they have too much sunk into this. This is very much a sunk cost fallacy application because they've wrapped their whole identity into following the leader and to, I guess, for lack of a better expression,
Starting point is 00:17:24 following this mass formation psychosis thing where they have one leader. It's very scary. It's very much Crisis and Leviathan where they have this big terrifying emergency and this lovely government leadership is going to come and show them exactly what to do. They don't really have, because they lack community, they lack their families, they lack their churches, whatever it used to be. They're like, I have to to follow someone i don't really even have any friends which i think is part of the reason that they need some form of therapy even when they may not necessarily just because they lack friends and any kind of social life um and they end up being like okay i can't change my views i have too much invested in this i can't change my mind this has to be true or else what am i standing for well if you've if
Starting point is 00:18:03 you've invested years into this right and now you know you're starting to recognize that fauci has flip-flopped every day non-stop i feel like people's brains are just like at this point just a mishmash of broken reality broken reality i get like war weariness um from the insanity of 25 21 years of conquest of war and pharmaceuticals making people psychotic. I'm interested to know your perception on this over the last, I don't know, how long you were with Animedia like a decade ago, right? I started 2014 and we were banned in 2018.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Were you in journalism before that? No. What was your observation of people going, I don't even know if you think people have gone crazy, but people's mental state over the last decade? Yeah. You know, I think there's always been issues. I think the people really losing it now, it didn't just come out of nowhere. They probably already had struggles and things they were dealing with, and then it became
Starting point is 00:18:58 much more exacerbated. Like, I think if you're a generally well-grounded person, which I don't know how common that is, but I think in general, if you have inner resources, you might be frustrated, you might be scared, but I don't think you can go to the spiral some people have fallen into. Because I really see, it gets
Starting point is 00:19:16 to the point where people are, I mean, you can cite CDC data and people will still tell you you're crazy and you're selfish and you're propagandized. And you're literally citing their authority and they'll still, they can't even register for that. Steven Crowder got a strike on YouTube for citing the CDC. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:32 And so we've talked about that when it comes to the modern vaccine narrative. I'm just like, I don't even know what YouTube's rules are at this point because I listened to Dr. Fauci and I'm like, well, if I say that YouTube bans us because YouTube says you can't say that, but Fauci is saying it. So I'm like, I don't even know at this point, the pressure is reaching that point where, you know, we're saying like, listen, we want to be reasonable people. We want to talk about what's going on. But when YouTube outright says you can't discuss things that they themselves discuss or CNN discusses, they give Crowder a strike over it.
Starting point is 00:20:05 I'm like, yo, you're asking for people for their brains to just explode because you're backing people into a corner and sooner or later they're going to say, I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore. It's true. It's like if YouTube were, I don't like the metaphor sword fight,
Starting point is 00:20:21 but if YouTube, and then they give you like a plastic sword because you're not allowed to say the stuff they say. So like how fun is that? I mean it's life-threatening. I'm not going to play. Sorry. Michael Knowles made the observation the other day that it doesn't matter what you say.
Starting point is 00:20:33 It matters who says it. Right. Steven Crowder says it. He's gone. Fauci says it. He's fine. It doesn't matter. Bill Gates.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Yeah, exactly. Not a doctor. Yeah, not a doctor. Joe Rogan. Also not a doctor. Exactly. I don't like the witch hunt. Doesn't matter. Like I saw somebody get banned, I think Carl Benjamin, off of somebody else's.
Starting point is 00:20:50 So like what will happen is that rather than target the channel that makes the ban able offense, they target the individual that started the channel. So then if they start a new channel with a completely different theme, they'll whack-a-mole it. It doesn't make any sense. The channel doesn't ban any terms and conditions. So we saw recently ethan klein of the h3 podcast and he announced he was deleting several episodes two episodes he had with
Starting point is 00:21:11 jordan peterson yeah i i feel bad for the guy a lot of people are mad they're like oh that's a stupid thing to do and cancel culture and all that and i'm like dude did you guys do you follow him and do you know why this is happening to him by By all means, criticize Ethan H3 for their politics. That's totally fine. And that's the political landscape. But what's happening is someone went on his YouTube channel from a really old video and they mass reported it and he got a strike, which took his channel offline for a week. He has employees.
Starting point is 00:21:38 He needs to make sure people are paying the bills. Now, I think his reaction to this was really, really bad. What he ends up doing is saying, I'm going to go back and delete past episodes, which can probably get me another strike. What people need to understand about YouTube and censorship and all that is that I've got – we've got TimCast IRL, where it is a variety of people, but includes me talking about news and politics. I have YouTube.com slash TimCasts, which is me monologuing. Right. And then youtube.com slash timcast, which is me talking about big stories of the day. But they're so similar.
Starting point is 00:22:12 I was told by YouTube that if I get one strike on any of these channels, even though they're different shows, I can't do any of the shows. That doesn't make sense because if someone on one of your shows, like a guest does something that doesn't make sense for you to have any kind of issues. I think you guys should revisit that. No, YouTube has outright said we don't care. So if the show is in any way related, when you get a strike, you're done. You can't work for a week.
Starting point is 00:22:39 And that means this is kind of – I mean today we would just go on Rumble. We would say, okay. So this is what I was saying in a video. I talked about this with Ethan Klein. I said he should have went on Rumble and set up his podcast there and just said, here's why we're taking these episodes down. We'll upload them to Rumble so people can watch them. Instead, he went the political route.
Starting point is 00:22:57 And I disagree with this. Ethan Klein has long been a comedic edgelord where he's had offensive things. And that's why they're going after him. But the reason he's taking down these podcasts, in my opinion, with Jordan Peterson, is because they can go to a three or four year old video, get it flagged because YouTube changed the rules later on, and then his whole company gets shut down. So his response to all this was, I'm taking it all down. He's been losing subscribers for whatever reason. I don't know. I think this may be related to it because he did this thing with Hassan Piker, the left-wing
Starting point is 00:23:28 streamer. They did his collaboration and then he lost a ton of, he gained a bunch of subscribers and lost a ton of subscribers. I wonder if in his mind, he's thinking, yo, I don't care about politics. I'm just a comedian guy, but they're going to destroy my business unless I bend the knee. His choice was to fall in line and bend the knee. I think it's a mistake, but I certainly understand his fear of censorship. Now, this is my speculation. I could be wrong, but why would someone go in and delete old shows? There's no reason to do that.
Starting point is 00:23:57 He nuked 8 million views off his channel. And in my opinion, it's because the culture war is escalating. The left and probably the right will go after his old videos i'd be willing to bet there are people who are going to start flagging his content because he's announced he's doing left-wing content with his son and you could never appease the mob so no matter how many times he apologizes there's still clips of him saying some absolutely absurd stuff in the name of free speech that people are going to bring up and use against him the strategic move that should have been done here is build your own platform,
Starting point is 00:24:27 build up your own website, build up your own subscription model, have an alternative to YouTube because all the writings were on the wall even in 2008. I remember making videos in 2008 being like, Hey, YouTube, it's not going to be a space that is going to be respecting free speech and we're going to be seeing this platform restrict speech more as we go on. And, of course, this is why I built my website, my email list, and even if they do take me down, fine. I have alternatives. I have other ways of even getting payments.
Starting point is 00:24:58 There's ways that we have moved away from this big system, and I think YouTube recognizes that they're not the all and be all right now, that there's alternatives, and a lot of people are exploring those. I know you did, and it's been extremely strategic. It's been extremely smart, and I wish other people would just implement those same measures and not be into this control grid that we're all in. You can't stop the Internet. That's what it is. They're trying to.
Starting point is 00:25:24 The establishment and the elites, the billionaires, many of these ultra-wealthy individuals, they desperately want to be back in that world where there were five channels. They all marched in lockstep on all the news stories. They all backed up the government and the major corporations. They could easily snap their fingers and get us involved in a war and say Iraq like the New York Times did. And now it's difficult. Now some random dude in a beanie screams at a camera for a few years and people watch the show. And how do they get rid of it?
Starting point is 00:25:53 Well, they could outright ban it. They go after Steven Crowder. They give him a strike even though he's just citing the CDC. That's a really good example of how they'll lie, cheat, and steal. But there are limits. If they go too hard, then people revolt and they'll just make new platforms. Then the establishment is playing whack-a-mole., cheat, and steal. But there are limits. If they go too hard, then people revolt and they'll just make new platforms. Then the establishment is playing whack-a-mole.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Game of cat and mouse. They'll go after, you know, Gab and accuse them of all this other, you know, nonsense, try and get them banned, and then Gab builds their own infrastructure. Rumble emerges, gets massive institutional investment. These establishment political powers are losing, in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Free speech is winning. Gun rights are winning. And in that that regard i will say i'm fairly optimistic that authoritarianism will not be able to prevail because there's nothing they can do to silence us they can shut down our twitters but then getter pops up getter might get crushed but then people will go to gap it's never going to stop the internet exists and they need to learn to deal with it i think that they're trying to instill a civil war, though, in the United States now. They've given up on trying to censor people into submission. Now they want to see the U.S. fight itself so that corporate governance can take hold. I kind of disagree.
Starting point is 00:26:56 I mean, we look at the latest statements made by the president of the United States. He was begging social media companies and the corporate media to start censoring, quote, misinformation all in the name of keeping everyone safe. Dr. Fauci on the World Economic Forum also on his Zoom call was saying we need to fight disinformation for everyone's health. People are understanding what's going on here. The German government is even proposing on banning Telegram. I love Telegram. I have a lot of fun on telegram it's one of the platforms that has truly risen and has allowed people to talk to each other without any algorithms without any central controllers without anyone dictating what you can and cannot see people are having real
Starting point is 00:27:34 honest civil discussions for the german government that's a big no no no no we got to ban that we can't allow the plebs to talk to each other How dare they share ideas and have informed consent about the decisions that the plutocrats and billionaires make for them? Obviously, it's ridiculous to portray this concept that they're caring for us by limiting our speech. That's a ridiculous concept and a concept that has been used historically to oppress people, enslave them, and to murder them. That's the true lesson of history that we're learned here. So this is why they're still trying to censor speech, in my opinion. I used to think that the goal was to censor the speech and be done with it. Now I'm starting to think the goal is to take control of the world's governance with a corporation,
Starting point is 00:28:17 and then censoring the speech is a byproduct of that or is a step on the way towards it. I would argue that they already did it in some ways. Did what? They took over. The corporate overlords have taken over government and are using them as a tool, as a vehicle for their own... Hands down. Mark Zuckerberg knows when you poop. And it's a funny way to explain the concept,
Starting point is 00:28:35 but the algorithms, the AI of Facebook, knows when you will have a bowel movement. They know who you will vote for. They can then influence you. Facebook ran experiments on people without their knowledge to see if they could make them depressed. Fact check me on that one. Yeah, I could be wrong. But my understanding was they flooded people's feeds with negative information to see if they would get sad. And it worked. Yeah, it was psychological experiments on
Starting point is 00:29:02 unsuspecting Facebook users. I've been talking about this for a number of years now, and this is what they were doing openly, admittedly, testing and manipulating people's emotions with the algorithm, seeing how they could change their emotional state. And if they're doing that with emotions a couple years ago, I think this was over 10 years ago, what do you think they're doing now on such a complex level with the algorithm only gaining and becoming more stronger? So if they can a complex level with the algorithm only gaining and becoming more stronger so if they can make you sad with the algorithm imagine what else they could make you do if they tweak the algorithm in different ways uh make you find a wife they can make you find your significant other and it's the one that they want you to find that's called eugenics wow dude
Starting point is 00:29:38 that's creepy but it's true yeah if you look at everything the establishment pushes it's pushing a system that de-incentivizes the family unit that perverses people's own sexuality that bastardizes any kind of semblance of of love and respect and harmony for the fellow human being if you look at every aspect of it it's to destroy families in the future of this country so going back to the to the ethan klein thing with jordan peterson a lot of people on the left and the right made this about tribal politics. And so I decided to take a look. I was like, why would you delete 8 million views off your YouTube channel? I was like, even if he doesn't like Jordan Peterson, there's a lot of videos he should be deleting because the things he cited, he's got other videos of that stuff. So why just Jordan Peterson?
Starting point is 00:30:20 So I went and looked at his YouTube stats and I looked at his charitable stats for his podcast. And then I saw that there was a period where he was, you know, he was getting hit and he was losing subs. Then I saw he posted on Instagram that people flagged his old videos and got his company shut down. And he said, I've got 10 employees. I've got to pay them. I owe rent and they shut my company down. And I'm like, there it is. They have successfully coerced him into playing ball with tribal politics. I think it's a mistake. I think he should have stayed true to himself, and he would have been a hero of those he long stood for.
Starting point is 00:30:54 But I want to throw it to you, Carrie, because you work for anti-media. And there was something that I think was missed by Project Veritas. And I could be getting the story wrong, so again, you should fact check me on this one. It's been several years. But I remember Veritas did this expose on, I think it was Pinterest, and there was this blacklist. Live Action was blacklisted. It's a pro-life organization, and Project
Starting point is 00:31:14 Veritas pointed that out. When I was looking at their video, when I saw this report, it lists anti-media, and I saw that, and I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I was like, James and Veritas, I think they missed it because they didn't know what it was. Everyone has their biases, whether well-intentioned or not that and I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I was like, James and Veritas, I think they missed it because they didn't know what it was. Everyone has their biases, whether well-intentioned or not. And I think Veritas missed that.
Starting point is 00:31:31 An anti-war, anti-establishment website was also being censored. So what happened with all that? I actually didn't even know that Pinterest had censored us. I think it was Pinterest. Sorry. Okay. Yeah. Well, I remember, and I could be wrong, but I think I remember seeing that Google had blacklisted us, which makes sense because we could never get accepted into Google News.
Starting point is 00:31:49 We'd apply and apply and we couldn't get in, even though other independent media outlets could. And this actually reminds me because we were talking about gaslighting and the way the media operates. So after the 2016 election, the Washington Post came out with an article about all the misinformation and it was all spread by, you know, Russia. Russia was behind it and all these new news outlets were spreading misinformation to benefit Russia. And we were put on a list made by an anonymous group. They were called Prop or Not. You can look up this article.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Search Washington Post. I was on there, too. Yeah, We Are Change was on that list as well. And I was like, what? I'm a Russian asset? Right. I'm Polish. Like, how dare you?
Starting point is 00:32:23 Sorry. Go ahead. But it's crazy, because i i was i worked for an organization called the anti-media like i was clearly i had already made i had already broken ties with the mainstream media and i came from the left i was a you know pretty mainstream democrat voted for obama and so i went through quite an evolution away from that but even then seeing my name on that list from an authority figure the washington post i was like wait am i in some way supporting russia what have i done and'm like, this is driving me insane because I'm so
Starting point is 00:32:48 actively, I mean, we wouldn't even quote RT unless it was like a Russian general. You know, we were so careful about not being aligned with state or with governments, with state-sponsored media, with really being accurate. And it got in my head so much. And then, of course, I was angry because I was like, how are you gaslighting me this hard that I'm questioning my own integrity and my own practices when I know them better than any person at prop or not any anonymous person. Um, but it definitely, when the bans happened, it was, it happened right after Alex Jones. So I don't know if you had a specific question, but it was just what happened. Well, I think it's important to also understand you were deplatformed in, on many different social media uh organizations can you tell us how you were deplatformed how you dealt with it where you are now yeah so it's
Starting point is 00:33:30 interesting because we actually had a facebook representative working with our page and that this is back when facebook was really big it was still one of the major platforms nobody uses it anymore i mean nobody i know but i don't use it um but we had lost a lot of reach following the 2016 election. We used to have at one point, I had the most viral article in the world, like based on metrics. So we were really getting reach. And it wasn't just us. It was our partner, partner organizations, the free thought project, it was the mind unleashed. And it was always anti war police accountability, anti establishment, anti cronyism, you know, we talked about solutions, we talked about, you know, any, I'm sure things that people care about. And then out of nowhere, let's see, Alex Jones was banned August
Starting point is 00:34:09 2018, and we were banned October 2018, right before the midterms. And we'll never be able to prove exactly why. We got a very generic notice of like inauthentic, but no, that was Twitter. That was, wait, I can't keep track of all the places we were banned. Anti-media was banned on Facebook. I believe they said it was something about manipulative behavior. We didn't do any of that. We just posted our articles. We had partner pages. But regardless, that was in the morning. I think it was a Tuesday, a Tuesday morning. We got that notice. And by the afternoon, Twitter had banned us as well. And my personal account was banned. I think they're trying to homogenize the media narrative. And so there were too many voices. The ecosystem was expanding. It was expanding rapidly. And even right now, it's really difficult for people to get started on YouTube
Starting point is 00:34:53 because they want to make sure there's a very narrow path you can walk. Only if you have an acceptable voice. And the corporate ties. So if you're tied into major special interest in corporations, you're going to get pushed in the algorithm. You're a Joe Schmo. You have absolutely no chances of making it. What they're doing right now is they've isolated. They've secretly, in my opinion, based on the data, quarantined channels like this one and many others. Now, I think we were quarantined for some time, but we had that lifted for some reason. I think we are on the edge of what they find tolerable.
Starting point is 00:35:26 And I've often explained it as a pressure release valve. If they ban too many people at once, everyone just jumps ship and goes somewhere else. But if they want to control people's thoughts, what they'll do is they'll ban some and then make sure channels like this one remain so that people won't leave the platform and they can keep feeding them a narrative.
Starting point is 00:35:44 So I've talked about this in terms of effective censorship versus what a lot of these companies had been doing, saying that if you give people clear rules and understanding, they'll follow it. But if you ban them outright, you make them jump ship to other platforms where they maintain and push and double down. I think that's what they're doing. I think the reason, so we were blacklisted for a while. This channel,
Starting point is 00:36:05 you couldn't Google search it. You type in the name and you get Facebook instead of YouTube. You type in YouTube and try and nothing, none of it would come up. Some of that, that changed. I think at some point last year, and it was funny.
Starting point is 00:36:15 We mentioned on the show. Then the next day, everyone's like, Hey, you're not blacklisted anymore. And I'm like, interesting. The first time I mentioned DMT,
Starting point is 00:36:22 all of a sudden, they were like, not true, by the way, but that's what I like to think. The machine elves set us free. I talked about it. It was the first time I mentioned DMT. That's not true, by the way. That's what I like to think. The machine elves set us free. I talked about psychedelics. They were like legit.
Starting point is 00:36:42 To put it simply, I think the reason anti-media gets banned, the reason why Alex Jones gets banned, the reason why they're going after Crowder is because they have the road they've paved. And if you walk off of it, you're out. What gets me is that you got banned on facebook and then later in that same day on twitter that makes me think that it wasn't someone at facebook called someone at twitter and was like hey that it was somebody above both organizations was like it's time that's what it makes it seem like but i that's and that's the thing is i can't claim anything with certainty and i'm not going to because i don't know but they had started working with the Atlantic Council. I think it's called the Digital Forensics Research Lab. And they were supposed to be analyzing social media and helping platforms like Facebook and Twitter weed out anything that could threaten democracy and hurt the integrity of elections.
Starting point is 00:37:17 And that council was connected with Henry Kissinger, who, of course, is also a very big fan favorite of We Are Change when we were conducting interviews of him. And obviously, that didn't play a role in us getting hit on the facebook and and youtube and twitter and all that other stuff last year by the way uh the facebook page that i run on on we are change got a strike because we posted a screenshot of the cdc website talking about breakthrough cases louder recruter got hit for mentioning cdc. So it's not even just walking the tight rope. Even if you regurgitate the narrative back at them, they still have the indecency to try to destroy your livelihood, take away everything you worked so hard for all in a moment's notice, because you're not helping the multinational corporations. You're not helping the special
Starting point is 00:38:02 interest. You're not helping the billionaires class. You're not helping Henry Kissinger, Bill Gates, and all these other people push their agenda onto everyone else. So it's becoming sick and twisted to such a degree that you can't even talk about the official story anymore. Well, and it's so telling, too, because the things we care about, the things that we covered, war, empire, police brutality, mass surveillance, these are things that to many people on the left who are principled it's this is not taboo to discuss we're not talking about things that are out we weren't you know we weren't we weren't noticeably right-wing in any
Starting point is 00:38:34 way so all i'm left to believe is that whoever made these decisions didn't like the lens we were framing it in it wasn't that we were anti-war it wasn't that we were against the empire it was that we were framing it through an anarchist lens that was completely outside the realm of political solutions like voting or something that people would consider acceptable. We were advocating an overhaul of the entire thing. And I'm left to, I mean, again, I can't say with any kind of certainty, but it seems like that was the issue. I want to address one of the super chats before we move on to the next segment.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Normally, we would just save it to the end. But people have pointed out that Ethan Klein klein has very very offensive shows where he makes you know racial slurs and he says things like that and and homophobic slurs oh yeah yes yes yes i i know and i don't think that changes my point i think my point is him getting rid of the jordan peterson episode is because he's scared of the left going after him and getting him banned so he's siding with them in hopes that it protects him and they won't go after him. The metaphor again is like if a doctor is like, hey, you have an infection. We're cutting it off.
Starting point is 00:39:30 And you're like, ah, and then you start looking around at your body. You're like, that might be an infection. That looks like an infection. I'm cutting it off. He cuts that off. That might be an infection. Then everywhere he looks, he starts to see potential infection. So he's cutting his own videos off.
Starting point is 00:39:41 You're missing what I just said. He has a video on his channel, someone mentioned, where he says racial slurs over and over and over again. He hasn't deleted it. It's not an issue of him saying, I've done something wrong. It's an issue of him saying, and this proves my point, it's not about him agreeing with the left.
Starting point is 00:39:58 It's not about him actually disagreeing with Jordan Peterson. It's about him saying, this is what will get me banned if leftists flag my videos. They're not going to go after his Idubs thing. They don't care about Idubs. That's what they're mentioning. Idubs is the interview. They're going to go after Jordan Peterson, which will get him in trouble. So I think whether he wants to acknowledge it or not, I think this plays a big role in his political shift. He's scared of getting canceled. He's siding with them in hopes they don't flag his content but you're saying he has homophobic
Starting point is 00:40:29 content he's not deleting so i i wouldn't call it homophobic i would say that he's intentionally being offensive as possible by saying a racial and homophobic slur together over and over again and he hasn't i would think that would be the first thing he would want to delete if he's concerned about people on the left coming after him. Not if he sides with them. You see? Are they going to go after a YouTuber? No. Are they going to go after Jordan Peterson?
Starting point is 00:40:53 Yes. So he starts agreeing with them. He starts defending them. He starts saying, this seems safe and acceptable. They're not going to flag my content. But they would flag Jordan Peterson. I'm not saying he's the smartest guy in the world.'m not saying he's perfect and there's another comment where they're saying i'm just defending him i'm like dude first first and foremost i don't agree with his politics
Starting point is 00:41:11 that's fine criticize the guy all day and night i'm pointing out there are people like this is a guy who was just an edgy comedian what does he know about politics he's even said he doesn't know and now he's getting inundated with attacks. So he decides to stay safe, to survive at all costs. Like who mentioned this? Was it the other day they mentioned the Gulag Archipelago? Yeah. It was James. James?
Starting point is 00:41:32 Yeah, James O'Keefe. Right, right. He was mentioning survival at all costs. That's what this is. And it's strategic. If he really cared about what the left was saying, if he really believed it, he would have deleted that episode. He didn't. Which says to me it is his fear of the culture war.
Starting point is 00:41:46 I got more that he wanted to do a high-profile takedown of Jordan Peterson for views. That was my – But he didn't make a video about it. He just tweeted about it. I mean, I'm sure he talked about it on his new channel, but I don't think he's even done a full podcast episode. There's more to – yeah. But also everyone's talking about him now, which also achieved the goal of getting attention for this, which could have been something that he was seeking potentially.
Starting point is 00:42:06 And if he removed a bunch of wants, it wouldn't be – now he gets to do – he can remove a video every two weeks and stay in the limelight. Nice job, Ethan. Come on, dude. Let's talk about this story we got right here from the Postmillennial. CNN plans to create a team dedicated to covering misinformation. Oh, good. Do you feel like you have to jump down every rabbit hole you see? Do you get mad when you see liars taking advantage of people?
Starting point is 00:42:28 I do. Like Jake Tapper and Brian Stelter. And I don't even... What was this guy's name? Jim Acosta. Jim Acosta. Lubin Tubin. No, that's not Lubin Tubin.
Starting point is 00:42:38 He's so irrelevant. I forgot the guy's name. But these people lie nonstop. Then they go on their TV channel that's dropped in ratings by 90%. And they're, yeah, reliable sources. I love the irony of the name, right? Imagine a fire department called, like, Flaming Fire Truck. You'd be like, I don't know if I'd want them to come.
Starting point is 00:43:01 But the fire's free, Tim. A fire truck on fire is the best way to explain what reliable sources on CNN means. It is one of the least reliable sources. And now they're going to be telling us that they're making this anti-disinformation show. Alex Koppelman says, some very exciting media jobs tell you. I'm hiring three people for a new CNN team dedicated to covering misinformation. Thread about the team and job starts here. Please feel free to share far and wide.
Starting point is 00:43:27 And if you're interested, reach out or apply at the links. You know, part of me is frustrated that we talk about CNN. Because when I learned that their ratings were down by over 90% and they were getting between like 70 and 100,000 in the key demo, I was like, wow, we should just not talk about them anymore because they're irrelevant. But they still do have institutional authority. YouTube props them up, puts them on the front page, and then you get 100 million plus YouTube views. So we need to make sure we're calling out all of the lies and manipulations from CNN.
Starting point is 00:43:57 This is like Ian doing anti-drug commercials. This makes no sense at all. This is like the ultimate epitome of hypocrisy that we have to deal with. CNN being fact checkers? Are you kidding me? I mean, what kind of parallel universe are we living in where they think they could pull this off? I mean, they have no credibility. They have been lying to the American people nonstop, 24-7, fear-mongering.
Starting point is 00:44:21 And they're losing the audience because the audience understands like hey i don't want to be spoken down to i don't want to have my thoughts controlled i don't want to have my perspectives limited to what you want me to think they're the perfect representatives of their pr for the special ruling elite and they're nothing else but that i'm i i get uh angrier and angrier you know seeing what these people do and maybe there's a lot of people who watch so and don't understand why I would be so like, you know, so so so pissed off at the thing CNN does or MSNBC. And, you know, just watching Rachel Maddow on the verge of tears when the Russiagate scandal was proven, the Russiagate thing was proven false. She was almost crying. I think I totally understand why so many people were laughing and so happy to see that pain.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Schadenfreude. To see these evil people lie for now. Now I've been doing it forever, you know, but it's gotten so bad. And for the nerve of these people to just keep pushing the lies like Cuomo, Chris Cuomo, faked being in quarantine. We all know it. And they still keep lying. What pisses me off is that people keep falling for it.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Well, I didn't fall for this. When you look at this picture of these dudes, I see airbrushed photography, really bright light coming from the left, shadow on the right to make them give this angelic glow. It just oozes with crap. Well, actually, that's Jake Tapper on the left, right? Yeah. I feel really sad about Jake Tapper because I remember during the Obama years,
Starting point is 00:45:47 he confronted, I want to say Jake Carney. What? He was the least bad. Yeah. He confronted Jake Carney. I think it was about the kill list about Obama's kill list. And he was really forceful about it.
Starting point is 00:45:57 I think it's probably still on YouTube. And then fast forward to the Trump years and he's having a tantrum meltdown because Donald Trump didn't thank John mccain in the ndaa spending bill are you going to talk about indefinite detention built into that bill you're going to talk about the billions of dollars spent on empire no no he's going to thank john mccain for his service because donald trump didn't and it's just so sad to watch i wonder about that too like you know we get wrapped up in so much of this culture war stuff even talking about cnn i wonder if that's what keeps us safe on youtube because if we started talking about the NDAA, indefinite detention provision,
Starting point is 00:46:27 and Obama and Biden killing kids, and the corruption, and we start getting deep on foreign policy, I bet then they would nuke us. Yeah, that would be an example of not playing ball. Right now we're actually playing tennis with CNN, talking about how bad they are. We're keeping them prescient. And relevant by talking about them. But I do wonder, who do they think this is for like benefit of the doubt? They just have poor strategy and they think that they're going to actually reach people mired in disinformation like
Starting point is 00:46:51 Benefit of the doubt they're really doing they think they're being really honorable journalists and they're trying to stop the spread of misinformation But in reality who's going to watch this it's people who already agree with them So that kind of just serves intentional or not To deepen the divide and deepen the polarization where the people watching the show can be like, ha, look at those idiots. Look how stupid they are that they would believe that. I'm better than them. They're other than me.
Starting point is 00:47:12 And all that really does is perpetuate the division that's already so severe. Can you tell me the difference between misinformation and disinformation? One is accidental. One's intentional. What's intentional offhand if you don't know? Misinformation is when people are just wrong and disinformation. I may have used that incorrectly or interchangeably, but yeah. I'm looking at this digital forensic research lab from the Atlantic Council, and they're
Starting point is 00:47:34 out to study disinformation and expose falsehood. Ooh, intentional propaganda. That's what we were doing. Intentional propaganda. Disinformation. That's the CIA's main modus operandi is disinformation. And what's so funny is with the anti-media, for example, it was our strategy to, as often as possible, cite mainstream news.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Just to say, what are you going to say? We're quoting you. And if you dig into a lot of those mainstream articles, the information is there. They just don't lead with it. They don't emphasize it. It's, you know, it's a byline or a scrolling marquee on a TV channel. But most of that information is out there. The New York Times was reporting on Obama's kill list during the Obama years. It's not that they're not covering it. It's just it's not propped up and blasted and it's not forced into the biggest narrative that they're pushing.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Let me ask you guys a question. Don't look at the screen. All right. We'll start with you, Carrie. CNN, 11 p.m. slot. How many viewers in the key demo do you think Don Lemon got? What's the key demo? 25 to 54. They call it the money demo. I mean... Major cable network, CNN. They're in hotels. How many key demo viewers do you think they would get? Generously 75,000. I don't know. You're cheating. No, really? Oh, is it really?
Starting point is 00:48:55 No way. Nice. I didn't look, I swear. That's one. MSNBC, 11th Hour, how many do you think they got in the key demo? 50,000. 80,000. 85,000. 80. and then gutfeld on fox
Starting point is 00:49:07 news 200 343 000 so if you if you look at their ratings in general with the older crowd it's a bit higher i think it's uh 347 000 when you when you go to like 9 p.m it's 169 000 in the key demo so it's a little bit better than that. 10 p.m., 134. But Hannity is getting half a million. Carlson's getting 559,000. The interesting thing is, this is what's crazy to me, is our numbers are not too far off from that. Now, that's in one hour.
Starting point is 00:49:39 For us in about an hour, we are getting like 150,000 to 200,000 key demo viewers. This show is rivaling the likes of CNN. I just want to say, be optimistic. We are winning. How many interactions does CNN get? Zero. Because they're not built for it. It's an old media form.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Right. And how many people are passively watching it? And how many people are taking it seriously? And how many people are watching it just for the lows and just for the ridiculousness how many people are trapped in an airport i'm not a hotel hotel hotel lobbies because the airport thing ended they canceled that contract do smart tvs measure if like three people are watching them now have they figured out how to do that i don't know but i have to imagine you know i've i've gone to i've been in a lot of airports and whenever i would go in they would have seen it on and i don't mean like they do these they used to do this deal where the
Starting point is 00:50:29 airport tvs are played i mean like i'll go to a lounge for like the united lounge or the american lounge and they would have three tvs and they'd be playing like cnn and maybe sports and i'd be like can you turn that off and they'd be like yeah and they would pull up their remote and they would turn it off i'm like i don't care what you put on. Just change the channel because that stuff is mind-melting garbage. And you know what? I did favors. Is your key demo number from one night? Is that what that is?
Starting point is 00:50:53 In one night, it would get 70 grand. We actually – Tim Kess IRL gets – we do the two-hour show. And it's close to like half a million in the key demo within two hours. So if we were – I don't know, after one hour, it's actually like two thirds of the views of the first hour and then it goes down. So we're probably getting like 250 to 300,000 key demo viewers in one hour. And if you look at that, we're half of Carlson. We're around half of Handy or Laura Ingraham or Gutfeld, which makes sense, but we're like at or twice as much as
Starting point is 00:51:25 what CNN and MSNBC get. Granted, Rachel Maddow beats us. She got 311,000 key demo viewers. Was it you that I was shooting this TV Be Gone video with a couple years ago? We were literally walking around. That was a decade ago, bro. Well, yeah. There's this TV Be Gone
Starting point is 00:51:43 device that literally was able to turn off every single television me and tim went on doing important work by literally walking around and shutting off all the corporate media that was in times square in restaurants in of course uh you know major bars and entertainment areas it got tense a couple times when i had that with me on other occasions when we weren't filming but we we literally made a video of like, we've got to save people and we're going to use this device by turning off TVs everywhere. We accidentally turned off a menu for
Starting point is 00:52:11 a pizza restaurant. I remember that. Because when you press it, it just automatically gives all the TV codes, signals all at once and turns it all off. But seriously, turn off the programming. Turn off the conditioning. Watching CNN, it's nauseating. It raises your blood pressure.
Starting point is 00:52:27 It's nothing but constant low vibrational fear, nonsense, crap. And it really doesn't serve you in any way, shape, or form. It doesn't keep you informed. It does the opposite of that. It makes you misinformed about what's really happening in this world. I can't remember what we were talking about with this, but you go to YouTube and you search for a news story. Like if you're not going to get a YouTuber, you're going to get CNN, CBS.
Starting point is 00:52:51 The crazy thing is if you search for something on YouTube that might not be related to news, you'll get news. You search for anything political and instead of getting information from like an educational source, you'll get CNN, you'll get CBS or PBS. It's just weird. And it's fascinating too, because their numbers aren't that great, even getting prioritized by these big tech platforms. I remember Facebook had a whole program. It must've been 2015, 16 to prop up reliable news sources. And it was like Fox news, CNN, MSNBC. And even then, they still weren't getting the engagement and the reach and the shares
Starting point is 00:53:26 that people like the anti-media was getting. Not just us, but a lot of independent news organizations. And that was being, not only having huge followings, but also being propped up by these institutions. Anderson Cooper, Mr. Vanderbilt, had a special deal with Facebook that literally was making sure that they had Facebook exclusiveexclusive content available to everyone, shoving it down their throats, shoving it down their algorithms. And they were playing it in my news feed, everyone's news feed, and they stopped that partnership because no one was watching it.
Starting point is 00:53:54 No one wants to watch deep-state television. No one wants to watch something that disrespects their intellect in the basic understanding of human life. And I remember there used to be a time a few years ago where I would just have CNN on because they weren't as sensationalistic. They weren't as bombastic. They weren't as crazy. But still, back then, even a few years ago, I would have it on because they would have good breaking news coverage.
Starting point is 00:54:17 And I was monitoring the news. And it was somewhat OK, still kind of low vibrational, but not as bad. Now, I literally feel sick watching them. I literally feel nauseous, and I'm like, I can't. This is absolutely a weaponized infotainment that's meant to hurt people in so many extensive ways. That's terrain theory of disease, Luke. Your body is mirroring the neurons of the people you're watching. So when you watch one like Brian Stelter, and he's all stressed out and hates his life,
Starting point is 00:54:47 your body is going to start mimicking that behavior of stress. Maybe not necessarily, but that's the theory of terrain theory of disease is involved with that and mirror neurons and things like that. I think part of it, if you hear someone sniffling on the phone when you're talking to them, it might actually make you sniffle. Or yawning. Yawning is another example of it. So watch out what you expose your brain to.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Let's do a hard segue. We'll talk about what's going on with the truckers. We got this story from Global News. Crossing delayed Monday at Manitoba U.S. border as truckers protest vaccine mandate. Have you guys seen this? A bunch of truckers blocked both directions, the Canadian U.S. border, so that it was difficult to enter and difficult to leave because Canada is going to be imposing a vaccine mandate where if you are a US citizen, a trucker,
Starting point is 00:55:31 you can't enter Canada unless you're vaccinated. And if you're a Canadian trucker and you enter and you're not vaccinated, you have to quarantine. So naturally people are protesting. And at a time when there's already shortages at a time when the policies in this regard have already failed it seems like i'm sorry man i know people don't like hearing it but it's almost intentional gutting of the system because you know truckers aren't going to go for this and you know without them you won't get food so why do it it's like they're trying to destroy the economy on purpose it's like they're trying to have something like a great reset it's like they're trying to destroy the economy on purpose it's like they're trying to have something like a great reset it's like they're trying to destroy the current system that we're living under in order to rebuild rebuild back a new one that works in their favor and i i think
Starting point is 00:56:15 chaos is the name of the game i think that's what they're trying to achieve there's always this kind of prevailing idea of order out of chaos and if you look at a lot of the moves that governments have been making throughout human history those are the moves that they're making. They create chaos. They thrive off that situation. They create the problem. They have a reaction that they know is going to be created by it. And of course, then they bring in the solution, which works in their favor because there's no explanation. This is not based on any... Why are they doing this? There's no science. There's no data. There's no information saying that this is going to help anyone except destroy the economy we got the story from tim cast federal government moves forward with program that permits teens to become truck
Starting point is 00:56:53 drivers the trucking industry is in need of an estimated 80 000 drivers so what's the plan teenagers are more likely to get the vax so the truckers who quit over the vax mandate will be replaced by teenagers is that is that what's happening i i gotta say man look i feel like a chicken in a chicken coop i got no idea what their plan is it doesn't make sense people are taking dumps in their water and then claiming they're not and i'm just like what you know let me let me just just say people underestimate how clown clowned out the clown world is. There's a video I tweeted about some person saying their pronouns are clown and clown self
Starting point is 00:57:29 and I'm like, yeah, that about explains it. Yeah, that's about right. You know, I'm thinking about the bombing of London. You brought this up last week during the Blitzkrieg. Mike Rowe brought it up. Yeah, Mike Rowe brought this up and after a few days of bombing, they just climbed out of the basement and got back to life as normal because you have no other choice.
Starting point is 00:57:46 It was a real emergency. You had to take control of your life. This isn't – okay, I don't want to step out. I don't want to say something that I regret later. But this is not the bombing of London, what we're going through right now. People are not getting their bodies exploded and running for their life. So is this a real emergency? Rat utopia.
Starting point is 00:58:05 No, no, I'm sorry. When you compare it to war, it's not like that. The rat hope experiment. They put us under lockdown. Everyone panics, begins to go nuts. Then they take us out, dry us off, put us back in, and then we swim for 60 hours. If this was a real emergency, we wouldn't be waiting for authority to give us the go-ahead. Well, to play devil's advocate and i'm not saying
Starting point is 00:58:25 that this is what i believe i'm just saying like is there any other reason why they would be doing this i absolutely believe there are people in power who are doing this for control for authority but i'm wondering like what about aren't there people in positions of power who genuinely believe in themselves and are just as caught as people watching msnbc and like genuinely believe that this is going to work. Through their arrogance and their certainty about their version of reality, they think that if they do this,
Starting point is 00:58:50 they are going to get people to get vaccinated. I'm not saying it's right, but is it possible that it's not always sinister? It's not always nefarious and manipulative. It's actually just people who are also programmed. Well, then we got a problem because there's a zombie horde taking over and they're marching through the streets.
Starting point is 00:59:05 They're unable to tell. You know what it is? I explained this of Jack Dorsey. He creates Twitter. Twitter creates fertile ground for the refuse of the far left broken ideologies. Jack Dorsey, having created Twitter and now following people who are trapped in the sewer of Twitter, he begins drinking his own refuse and believing his own insanity. And then his opinions get shaped thinking this is reality. When in reality, he made a big toilet, a big toilet for people to take dumps into with their garbage ideas. He absorbs those garbage ideas, thinks they're real.
Starting point is 00:59:40 So what we have is there's a possibility that there is a cabal of powerful individuals who are pulling the strings with big corporate donations, with lobbying and things like that. I think that's true, obviously, to a certain extent. But it's entirely possible that crackpot idiots on CNN follow other crackpot idiots and they recycle information, playing a big game of telephone. And then here's what happens. Somebody writes an article and they're like, I need clicks. So they're like, I think Trump is a fascist. So Trump, is Trump behaving like a fascist? Print.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Then their friend following them sees it and they go, did you read that article talking about Trump acting like a fascist? You know, it's pretty fascistic. So then this guy then writes an article saying Trump is a fascist. Then his friend sees it and says, whoa, Trump is like the fascist. He's like Mussolini.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Then he writes Trump is like Mussolini. Then someone sees and says, no, no, no, not like Mussolini. He's like Hitler. Then they write Trump is like Hitler. And someone else says like Trump, Trump is as bad as Hitler. And then someone goes, he's worse. They're all just basically swimming in a circle of their own sewage, exciting themselves. And then after a week of telephone, they're all screaming that Trump is the reemergence of Hitler. And it's like, yo, you guys are nuts. Calm down. Stop drinking each other's waste and just actually get out there and talk to real people. They don't do it. So now they're screaming. Bill Maher brings it up that Democrats were polled and they were asked
Starting point is 01:01:00 what the likelihood was percentage wise of needing hospitalization if you get COVID. And they said 50%. And he was like, what? Republicans and independent voters got it right. 5%. But these are people who believe each other, hyping each other up, constantly one-upping garbage fake news until they're like, block the whole country down, burn to the ground, otherwise everyone dies.
Starting point is 01:01:23 They are running around screaming the sky is falling. And for some reason, we've been listening to them and arguing with them instead of just excising them from political discourse and saying, do whatever you want. I'll be over here living. I disagree with both of you guys. Surprise, surprise. I believe it's a conspiracy because for this kind of ignorance to be perpetrated, right? I'm not saying it's not.
Starting point is 01:01:43 I might be wrong. But for this type of policy to be implemented because of right? I'm not saying it's not, I might be wrong, but for this type of policy to be implemented because of popular support, people have to say to themselves, the vaccine mandates worked so great that we have to implement more vaccine mandates. And I think it's pretty clear to the average person paying attention that they absolutely did it. I mean, there's even Trudeau and Fauci coming out on record saying that these mandates, these vaccine mandates aren't about health. They're about convincing other people to take the shot.
Starting point is 01:02:08 So this kind of fervent policymaking that clearly is disrupting the economy clearly is going to have negative effects when already the store shelves are barren in some places, when already the supply chain has been disrupted. Asking for more supply chain disruptions is literally creating chaos. So I'm sticking to what i personally believe and that's my personal feeling and i could be wrong because i don't think it's idiots leading the herd i think it's uh you know a few powerful people creating the the idiots that are bringing them along but there's not a lot of them uh still when it comes to the bigger official story of covid which is breaking Let's make a short film. Zombie apocalypse happens.
Starting point is 01:02:50 And it's like it starts off very much like a zombie movie. It's like, run, you know, get the shotgun. Oh, Jesus, zombies are coming. And then we'll have Ian be like, you know, I was listening to what they were saying. I kind of agree. I'm going to go join them. And we're like, no, Ian, he walks outside. I'm just going to go talk to him. I'll be back.
Starting point is 01:03:05 You think I should just full on just go join him? You're like, it kind of makes sense. I'll come in the middle of the night. I'll wake you up. Tim, I've been listening to the zombies. They've been telling me. I don't have to make any tough decisions. No, no.
Starting point is 01:03:15 You've got to be like. They've been saying brains so much. I kind of wonder if eating brains does make sense. I think we should consider like, Ian, you're turning into one of them. And they don't actually bite you to make you a zombie you just listen to them enough and then you start believing brain and then listening to it on repeat on youtube all the zombies they actually aren't aren't infected with anything they're just all scared to step out of line because the other zombies will attack them if they act like they're not zombies so it's actually a horde of people
Starting point is 01:03:40 pretending to be zombies that's mass formation psychosis that is that would be actually a funny little skit to do where it's just like a bunch of people who are like, I'm a zombie and no one dares step out of line.
Starting point is 01:03:50 And then one guy goes, wait a minute, you guys aren't actually zombies? And they're all like, brains! And they attack them and they're all looking around like, oh, I'm a zombie.
Starting point is 01:03:59 I got a question for you guys. Justin Trudeau, is he evil mastermind or is he fool that's being provoked by the evil mastermind? He seems like a mastermind to me. I don't know how blatantly he's just willing to say like, yeah, we're going to violate your rights. We don't. And maybe he's just so far gone that he thinks that's acceptable because I know there are a lot of people who feel that way. But he was dealing arms to the Saudis for years and it's been well documented how their human rights track record and what they do in yemen and he had no problem arming them yeah he's
Starting point is 01:04:29 true and true and authoritarian he's he's a communist he loves centralization he was literally cheerleading china because of the way that they run their economy you know china literally destroys human rights for their economy and this is something that Trudeau openly praises and looks up to. So I wouldn't even say mastermind or puppet. I would say sociopath that's been put in a position of power that's playing out the agenda of the World Economic Forum, of the Davos Group, and is reading the handbook and following every single procedure that they ask him to follow.
Starting point is 01:05:01 I don't know his dad, but his dad was the prime minister before him. Fidel Castro? Yeah. His father, Fidel. Fidel? It's a joke. Was his dad notoriously authoritarian? People keep posting photos of him
Starting point is 01:05:12 next to Fidel Castro. He looks like Fidel Castro. Let's be real. I'm not going to hold it against you. I do look like Putin. If Putin, Bill Maher, and Julian Assange had a love child, I would cop out. But that's a different story.
Starting point is 01:05:25 But I don't think I'm related to Putin. Who knows? I hope you are. This would explain why he's an authoritarian communist because, you know, Fidel was an authoritarian communist. There's like a long lost autobiography from Putin where he talks about how he once ventured to Poland in the mid 80s and had an affair. I am your father. Well, I was a part of the resistance
Starting point is 01:05:52 against the Soviet Union. So when Putin was a KGB agent, my family was going up against the communists a part of the Solidarność movement in northern Poland and Gdańsk. What if there was like a whirlwind affair where Vladimir is like, I cannot be with you.
Starting point is 01:06:06 It is forbidden. So there could be a Star Wars movie here with me and Putin being on opposing sides and then my family helping take down the Soviet Union, which of course is the evil empire, which Putin was a KGB agent of. That is possible. I think the better story is that
Starting point is 01:06:21 Putin had a series of clones made when he was in the KGB. In case I fail, they will succeed. Yeah, and Luke is programmed possible. I think the better story is that Putin had a series of clones made when he was in the KGB and they were supposed to be destroyed. And Luke is programmed to be activated as a sleeper agent for the Soviet Union. He'll make a clone with different mindsets. What is very
Starting point is 01:06:35 anarchist. This is very important news we're discussing right now. There are a lot of people who, I see comments when they're saying, you know, it's too pessimistic to talk about things falling apart. And I'm like, what should we talk about? I mean that sincerely. I think watching the media collapse is not bad news.
Starting point is 01:06:52 I think it's a good thing. I find that watching CNN trying to think your way out of the psychosis doesn't work. It's like no thought is the way to get away from that stuff, which is why I usually turn up the TV, step outside or something. If you turn the TV off and go outside and ignore the mainstream media and just say, like, tend to your goats or chickens for a week, when you turn the TV on, it'll be like watching Saturn. It'll be a different planet. You'll be like, what? What are they
Starting point is 01:07:17 talking about? Because the news changes so rapidly these days. Like, if you listen to Dr. Fauci, I mentioned this, you know, a while back. He'll come out and he'll be like, you don you listen to dr fauci this i mentioned this you know a while back he'll come out and he'll be like you don't need to be wearing two masks but then three days later he's like you should be wearing two masks and then you get one person who watched one story and then didn't see the update and the other person who sees the update and now they're arguing online about who's right and who's wrong and And it's like, yo, I bet you could spend seven
Starting point is 01:07:45 days away and miss the news cycle changing three times and come back and not even know it changed and have nothing to argue about. Well, I think no, no, I think it'll be like, you know, Fauci will come out. I mean, Joe Biden comes out. Joe Biden said that the vaccines would stop the spread of the pandemic. Yeah, that's not what they're saying now. So if you were someone who passively watched the news and heard Biden say that, you'd be like, oh, how about that? Today you turn the news on and they're saying something totally different. You'd be like, what? Did I like go into the twilight zone or something?
Starting point is 01:08:15 Do these people forget? Do they have amnesia? That's the funniest thing. When there are people on Twitter tweeting at me being like, duh, the vaccines do X. And I'm like, that's not what Joe Biden or Fauci or the CDC director said three months ago. I understand science changes, but isn't it a bit too rapid? Because if it is changing this rapidly, then there's no plan, and it's very likely to change again. Right.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Sorry, go ahead. No, go ahead. Okay, I'll just go really quickly you have to be traumatized to be believe the official story and there's a lot of people who are traumatized that the corporate media and the politicians scare the crap out of every single day and that's the only way that they could get them in a state that's irrational not paying attention and has them going along with the big overlord state saying we will protect you when of course they're doing the complete opposite of that.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Sorry, go ahead. No, I was just going to say, like, OK, yes, science does change, but it would go a very long way if the people who are constantly changing the opinions could just acknowledge, OK, well, it changed. It's wrong. And you don't see that. You see people getting gaslit and people being blamed and being shamed for questioning things when it's always changing.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Like, how can you not have a healthy level of skepticism? You're allowed to notice that there are discrepancies. And sure, okay, science may explain that. But if you could just drop the arrogance and the hubris about it, I think they would have a lot better chance of communicating with people they think need to hear it. Wasn't it our good friend Ethan Klein who said, you don't even need to think? That's right. Didn't he say that?
Starting point is 01:09:46 Yeah, that's why. He said, just go to the government's website. You don't even need to think. Just do what the government tells you. It'll be way fucking easier. I mean, I kind of read history books when I was growing up. You don't do that. In fact, we were always told that dissent was patriotic in this country.
Starting point is 01:10:01 Now you have this massive group of people who are like, dissent is insurrection. It is wrong. Don't do it. Just do what you're told. This is the funny thing about the vaccine mandates. When they say the vaccine mandates work, but New York is experiencing a major surge in COVID cases, what they're really saying is the vaccines force people to get vaccinated. The mandates do. I'm sorry. Sorry. The mandates work. And what they mean is it's forcing people to get vaccinated. The mandates do. I'm sorry. Sorry. The mandates work. And what they mean is it's forcing people to get it. I thought they meant initially, and I probably shouldn't assume this, that it was going to
Starting point is 01:10:34 actually stem the spread because Joe Biden said that. Right. Now that's not the case. It's to reduce the severity. And I'm like, well, the hospitals are overloaded. Fact. And there's record breaking amounts of COVID. Also a fact.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Tons of people are getting i mean glenn beck had it recently mike rowe mentioned he had it over christmas i think crowder had it i could be wrong with yeah he did everybody's getting it so now they're saying well it was never supposed to stop the spread it was supposed to reduce the severity of symptoms and i'm like you said joe biden actually said that it would you know it would all be over they actually said several times once everyone gets, you don't got to wear masks and the pandemic will end. And it's not ending. Now, I think it's fair to say, OK, maybe they got it wrong.
Starting point is 01:11:10 But at a certain point, they should be like, it's probably going to change. We don't know for sure. But everyone's so sure of themselves. Yeah. They didn't know that had waning immunity. So how did they know anything else surrounding this? Or efficacy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:26 Exactly. The same thing, pretty much. But the official story has changed so many times. These bureaucrats have flip-flopped so many times. It's difficult to even understand where we're at right now. And I think the strategy that they're implementing right now is let's just spin people around so they get confused. They don't know what's going on. And it's all going to be scary unless you just obey us.
Starting point is 01:11:47 That's that's the policy that they have implemented, because, you know, it's only going to be a certain time now where people are going to be like, OK, I'm going to stop spinning now. I'm going to start paying attention to what's going on here because we've been bamboozled. We've been we've been lied to. And I think this larger mass awakening is happening and it's going to have some very severe effects on our society and our political system. This is why the Democrats are giving up COVID, in my opinion, right before this upcoming election, because they can't win with this policy that has destroyed people's lives and only enriched the billionaire class. They can't. I don't think people want to accept that when I say – not everybody. There are some people who don't want to accept. When I say that the country is breaking apart or that states are breaking apart, I don't see that as a bad thing. I mean, Luke brought up peaceful divorce a while ago. Michael Malice has
Starting point is 01:12:33 talked about it. So Hawaii recently announced that you need a booster shot to enter the state. California wants to double their taxes so they can pay for universal health care. Well, obviously, California will struggle to make that work. I mean, they're going to require heavy subsidy. Rich people are going to walk out of the state. Then they're going to try and tax them 10 years after the fact. That's one thing they announced. And then you're going to see a bunch of poor people flood into the state to get free health
Starting point is 01:12:57 care. Clearly doesn't work. But hey, let people go to the state they want with the laws they want. People will leave. If there ends up being some kind of fracturing of this country, it means, yo, I'm going to go to West Virginia. I'm going to have all my guns. I'll be very pleased and happy. And then the people who don't like guns and want them banned can go to California and then they can have free healthcare. What's the problem? How is that a bad thing? What about artillery? All of it. Artillery can
Starting point is 01:13:21 fire across state lines. What if it's banned in one state, but it's legal in the other state? Well, that's too bad for the state that banned it, I guess. That sounds like an arms race. Whatever. You anarchist. Yeah, I don't – look. Hey, sometimes you don't choose to go to war. Sometimes war comes to you.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Thomas Massey tweeted, what piece of Second Amendment legislation should we push if we take control? And everyone was like, abolish the ATF, repeal the NFA. And I'm like, yes, those things. I went further and I said, gun mandates. If you want to go out to a diner, you've got to have proof of gun. And you've got to be able to show that it's loaded. Proof of gun. Proof of gun.
Starting point is 01:13:57 So you'll walk up to the diner and they'll be like, we have a gun mandate in this city. If you want to come in, you have to be armed. And you'll be like, oh, I've got my 1911 right here. I've got my proof on my right. I've got a revolver. Let me show you my 38 or whatever. And you can walk in maybe with a rifle. You have to be armed. And you'll be like, oh, I've got my 1911 right here. I've got a revolver. Let me show you my 38 or whatever. You can walk in maybe with a rifle. You've got to have a gun. Gun mandates. Mandatory gun ownership.
Starting point is 01:14:12 Anyway, speaking about this specific topic that we were just talking about, it's also important to note that England is looking at getting rid of their health pass. They're looking to get rid of their vaccine passport system, which soon will be implemented. This is a huge shift in the narrative, as of course, there's major scientific studies, there's a lot of information coming out that clearly is disrupting this entire official story
Starting point is 01:14:35 of what they've been telling us from the very beginning. So this whole narrative is collapsing. There's a lot of important reasons to be extremely optimistic. I've been talking about this weeks ago. I'm saying with this latest variant, there's a big probability, even according to the World Health Organization, that announced that this is going to be the end of COVID potentially in 2022. So there's a lot of mainline institutions. There's a lot of mainline doctors talking about what we were talking months ago And there's this meme going around That I tweeted that specifically Shows you know the talking points That this administration And that these authorities
Starting point is 01:15:12 Had from the very beginning You die but you go to heaven That said 95% protection in May June 70% protection August no protection but reduces spread September doesn't reduce spread But reduces severity October doesn't reduce spread but reduces severity. October, doesn't reduce severity but reduces hospitalizations.
Starting point is 01:15:29 November, doesn't reduce hospitalizations but you aren't going to die. And then December, you die but you go to heaven. That's a good one. That's essentially – It's a joke, YouTube. Calm down. Everyone can go talk to their doctors. Again, non-medical doctor, not here giving you any kind of medical advice.
Starting point is 01:15:45 We're not here to do that. We're here to point out that there's elements of people making fun of what we've been told and exaggerating it because it's already been exaggerated to such an extensive level that it's hard for people to pay attention to even what's going on. Yeah. Well, you said that in 2022, we might see the end of COVID according to what? The World Health Organization. I would point out that maybe not the end of COVID, the end of COVID hysteria, but that the virus itself, I've heard that it supposedly will be endemic, meaning that we're just going to live with the thing, the coronavirus. That's one theory out there.
Starting point is 01:16:16 There's another theory that this latest variant is spreading so fast that it's going to create natural immunity. It's less severe, less people are going to end up in the hospital, so everyone's going to get it because of how fast it spreads to everyone, and then essentially it will kind of die out and phase out from here because everyone will have immunity from it. Or just live with us forever as we're immune. But when you look at coronaviruses, there's usually a specific trend
Starting point is 01:16:39 of how they kind of operate, of how they infect people, and how they stop infecting people based on those mutations. So if we're following the basic procedures of how they kind of operate, of how they infect people, and how they stop infecting people based on those mutations. So if we're following the basic procedures of how previous coronavirus, SARS and MERS, have affected the world, it's logical to believe that this is going to happen here. Dr. Fauci has a different story saying there's going to be another variant that's going to be really bad. But, of course, he, of course, has an invested interest in keeping this storyline going
Starting point is 01:17:03 because his entire career is made on the severity of this sickness so obviously has a conflict of interest again these are some of the debates happening within the scientific community that I think are extremely important right now and I think are important to pay attention to because if this is the case
Starting point is 01:17:20 there's going to be some significant political changes in our society when we come to the end of this and people feel bamboozled and lied to about everything. So this is something that we need to understand politically, socially, and economically because the effects of this are going to be with us for years to come after this. I hope that we can, as a species, learn to kind of live maybe in a more coherent manner with viruses in general. I just looked it up. 380 trillion viruses inside of the human body. 380 trillion.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Wild. How many of those are hurting us? Hardly any of them, if any of them. They live in symbiosis with us. That's the point. So I don't see why that can't happen with corona. In fact, it looks like we're on track as you see the different variants appear. The most successful viruses you don't even know you have yeah they they sit in your body they do virus
Starting point is 01:18:07 stuff but they don't cause enough problems for you to actually care about i would imagine some of them help you i gotta go deeper into it or get a virologist on the show or something there's that one parasite that makes you love cats oh yes toxoplasmosis yes which a lot of people in brazil have there's a fascinating video of Rogan talking to Alex Jones about it and they go off. I don't know if that video clip is still on YouTube but it is terrifying to find out about the effects of taxoplasmosis.
Starting point is 01:18:36 Well, it makes some people get schizophrenia. It literally creates the crazy cat lady syndrome. The basic stereotypical understanding of a crazy cat lady obsessive loving of her cats this is something that of course cats have as a uh as a mechanism for their survival when they kind of have this virus that's in poop that makes rats love them so there's elements of this according to some medical studies highlighting how there's similar effects on the human brain that cause women and men to be impulsive, causes them to also
Starting point is 01:19:05 be affected by this in a very negative state. But again, viruses are something that we have been dealing with from the beginning of humanity. It's something that, of course, is not going away. And I think there's a lot of important learning lessons from everything that happened within the last two years that we should really learn from and not repeat those mistakes that were made. I remember when I was growing up, I had a lot of important learning lessons. Like? What was the most important one? The most important learning lesson?
Starting point is 01:19:33 Yes. Oh, just reading about the history of World War II. Learning lessons were really important for me as a kid. Did you experience learning lessons? Yeah, I learned a lot of lessons. Is learning lessons another Luke-ism? You didn't even know it was a lukism that's why i was saying no it's a learning lesson what you have a lesson and you
Starting point is 01:19:50 learn from it i like it listen i'm gonna make up all the words i want to make up okay it makes sense you guys know exactly what i'm saying and uh i might even make my own learning lessons about this well speaking of learning lesson if we're gonna on, I just want to say before that, I know, I think this all started because of a comment that said it's really, it's cynical to talk about how everything's falling apart. But speaking of lessons and history,
Starting point is 01:20:12 I just want to point out, I do see how it can sound cynical and it can often be depressing. And there is often a sense of hopelessness. But if you do look at history, regimes fall, people resist. Like, I'm sure there's some exceptions. I don't want to say always, but the grand scheme of history do look at history, regimes fall. People resist. I'm sure there are some exceptions to this.
Starting point is 01:20:25 I don't want to say always, but the grand scheme of history and all of the empires and all of the authoritarians who've ruled over people, eventually it falls. All empires collapse? I think so. I know China's still going pretty strong,
Starting point is 01:20:39 but how long have they actually been in power? It's true, but have they had mind control technology? And artificial intelligence, which is going to be the next nuclear weapon. A lot of arguments against anarchists. And mass surveillance. Yep.
Starting point is 01:20:51 A lot of arguments against anarchists in the Second Amendment is, are you going to allow people to have nuclear weapons? Well, literally, there's private individuals and corporations creating weapons that are even far more superior and more powerful than nuclear weapons. That specifically is artificial intelligence.
Starting point is 01:21:05 And that's happening right now with collusion of the state. Let me ask you, what's scarier for you? The fact that certain states have nuclear bombs, warheads, or the fact that private, unaccountable individuals can post your web browser history? I mean, I got to be honest, I'm not worried about nuclear war you know what i mean i'm honestly not super scared about uh i don't like the spying or anything but i'm sure there's a lot of people who are like you know look people cheating on their wives is a good example yeah facebook knows if you're cheating on your wife young women who are pregnant don't want their parents to find out
Starting point is 01:21:40 their boyfriends to find out big tech knows all of of that. And there was even, wasn't it like the NSA were tubing it to private phones? Yeah, NSA agents were caught looping tubing it to people's private photos that they were sharing with their loved ones unsuspectingly. It's not like they published it. It was private messages between loved ones that the NSA intercepted and decided to entertain themselves with in many unspeakable ways. Family-friendly show. You get the gist of what I'm trying to say here.
Starting point is 01:22:09 How did they get caught? Someone kicked the door, walked in, and they're like, what? I don't remember the exact details of this, but this was a mainline story even before Edward Snowden came out saying, hey, the NSA are doing this. This is how they got. TSA agents also have an extremely horrible record of abusing their power with individuals that they have to engage with and act with.
Starting point is 01:22:33 But I think you were talking about a lot of those stories, Carrie, when you were working in alternative media, specifically the stories that have been significantly underplayed, but are significant to our way of life. Which one was, do you think, in your opinion, one of the most kind of egregious ones when it comes to government abuse of power? Abuse of power in general or surveillance? Both. Well, I mean, obviously what Snowden cracked open with all of his, with his, I don't even want to say leaks because he was so careful about releasing it, but nonetheless, I'm actually looking it up and apparently it was Snowden who said that it,
Starting point is 01:23:09 that the NSA would intercept nude pics. Yes. Yes. He said that he confirmed it, but there was even before that. Oh, it was even before that. Okay.
Starting point is 01:23:15 Mainline articles talking about this, which again is just, I mean, imagine, imagine having a private moment where you were loved on and then there's fat cat bureaucrats, Beckys, siffling through all your private, most intimate moments,
Starting point is 01:23:33 and they're using it for their own bastardized way. Let's do one more segment. We got the story from Fortune. Fauci says there are five stages of the COVID pandemic and we are still in phase one. Oh, no. I don't know what else you want me to say, guys.
Starting point is 01:23:49 You know, that's it. He says the first phase of the pandemic, or the truly pandemic, according to Fauci, is where the world is really very negatively impacted. The following four steps are deceleration, control, elimination, and finally eradication. Here are the characteristics, blah, blah, blah. Okay, so he's basically saying get ready it's not going to end he's like everything that that that my career is based on is going to be around for a while just so you know with the covid pandemic goes away fauci goes away and he knows it he's you i've never even heard of the guy until this thing appeared i mean people in the 80s knew he
Starting point is 01:24:22 was i guess yeah i'm just like i look at this and it's like all this says to me is that the government failed despite all of their efforts and all of their claims of certainty that they knew exactly what they what to do to fix it here we are and this is just like an advertisement against government policy to me to see this guy just saying no this is as far as we've gotten and despite all of this no that we're still in stage one it's been two this, we're still in stage one. It's been two years, and we're still in stage one. Give us more power. You can trust us. Two weeks to slow the spread.
Starting point is 01:24:51 But there's some good news here. There's some really good news here because this is Dr. Fauci saying it. The guy flip-flops and is wrong on almost everything, which means he's probably wrong about this as well, which means we're probably closer to the end than the actual starting point. But for again, Fauci, a lot of invested interest. He's one of the few bureaucrats that actually makes more money from his side hustles than he does from his government job. His government job pays him more than any other bureaucrat in Washington, D.C. So he's making a lot of money.
Starting point is 01:25:19 There was recent financial transactions that were released showing that he has at least $10 million in assets. And this is a man who's been working for the government almost his entire life. Where has those millions of dollars come from? Well, of course, those are important questions that a lot of people should be asking. He has a lot of connections to a lot of very powerful individuals. And, of course, as we know, everything that the United States has been involved in has been a big business against the American people. But how do you see this kind of unfolding, Carrie? How do you see this COVID landscape, this Dr. Fauci landscape moving from this particular
Starting point is 01:25:56 moment in time? Honestly, I mean, it's just my opinion. I thought Hillary Clinton was going to win in 2016. So, you know, take it for what it's worth. But being from Los Angeles and having spent a lot of the pandemic there, I think it's going to be very difficult for the federal government, even for state governments, local governments to keep enforcing this because people are burned out. And Los Angeles is one of the most compliant places in the country, as far as I could tell. And it's policy-wise and just the people in general. But even like at this point, there, people, they can't do it anymore. They're sick of it. Even people who got vaccinated and now they feel that they were misled.
Starting point is 01:26:29 I don't want to say lied to because, sure, the science changed. But there are people who feel that even though they followed all of these protocols, they followed all the policies, they obeyed, they did what they were told to be good people. And still it hasn't been resolved. I'm telling you, Los Angeles is such a liberal place. And I left for six weeks in the fall and i came back and there was way less compliance like there were people in stores not wearing masks and nobody said anything whereas before i left that you didn't see that that wasn't a thing and i know that people are burned out because of what i'm seeing in los
Starting point is 01:26:57 angeles where it's heavily liberal and people really had good intentions about stopping the spread of the pandemic and doing everything they could to end it. I have a friend who got vaccinated and now he's being told, well, actually it doesn't work. You have to get another. And he's not doing it because he felt he did it for the sake of doing his part, stopping the spread. Bill Marsh did the same thing. He took one for the team and now they're not going to convince him to do it again. But the problem is if you trust the science and if the official narrative is – the statements from the CDC and all that is you need to get your booster, then who are you to challenge the system? If you're doing your part, why would you stop now? Now, I will always stress, get your advice from trusted medical professionals.
Starting point is 01:27:38 Don't look at me about it. But I will add one of my favorite memes is Fauci as Vader saying, I have altered the science. Pray I don't alter it further. The point of this is never to eradicate the virus. From day one, it was to slow the spread in 15 days so that we don't overload the hospitals. End of story. Let the thing run its course. Don't overload the hospitals.
Starting point is 01:28:00 That was the plan. Not this five-point thing where number five is eradication of the virus. This isn't polio. Right. And it's weird because I remember that talking point. It was we have to not overwhelm hospitals. And I'm looking at this just as I'm looking at this article. And it's like you guys have had two years and you haven't been able to get hospitals the resources they need.
Starting point is 01:28:18 And I'm still supposed to take your advice and listen to you. Not even advice, commands. I just obey your commands when you couldn't even solve the initial problem that all this was for and you've had all this time i think you know one thing i i feel like you should probably mention more though with all of this is as much as policy wise i think our position is very clear it's very libertarian or or even anarchic for you guys i also think it's important to point out there's probably really serious long-term health effects for covid that aren't even being picked up right now and so i say this because you know it's important to point out there's probably really serious long-term health effects for COVID that aren't even being picked up right now. And so I say this because it's now been several months for us, but I still feel a presence from having COVID.
Starting point is 01:28:53 I can feel it in my back from time to time. It's still here. I can tell. I just have an immunity to it now. Well, I think we're all over. I think we're past it, but people get scarring in their lungs. And I think you've got on the left a complete overhyping of everything. Panic, nonstop panic.
Starting point is 01:29:11 You have many on the right who are just like, be done with it. We can't, you know, and I would agree more with that. It's like, look, I actually, I recognize it's really bad. I get it. I think we should continue to push for scientific breakthroughs on this stuff. I think we should also remind people, you know'm i'm concerned about the long-term health effects of what covid well i eat crappy food i lose my smell after covid i eat garlic and onion i regain my smell it's not covid's fault obviously it's dietary the point i'm trying to make is you know i think it was uh
Starting point is 01:29:43 who was it was it was uh um somebody you know, I think it was, who was it? Somebody tweeted, don't underestimate it. It was a conservative we had in the show saying, like, it is really, really bad. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. And I think that's important. I still can't taste or smell. Really? Wow.
Starting point is 01:29:57 Try dosing yourself with onion and garlic. Yeah, there's a bunch. But I'll put it this way. I just don't want to get lost in being upset about policy to make it seem like we would downplay the sickness. Because we talk about how you probably won't be hospitalized. You'll probably get better. But there are long-term effects. And I think that's a fair point to make. And I think that's what's so frustrating for some people, at least.
Starting point is 01:30:18 Like someone like me. I took it seriously. I was considerate of other people. And yet I'm still thrown into this category of just a crazy QAnon right wing Nazi Trump supporter. When in fact, I've never said that COVID wasn't serious. It's not going to be as serious for some people as others. I had COVID. I was fine.
Starting point is 01:30:32 It was pretty mild. I lost my sense of smell. But other than that, yeah, I was really tired. And my fever never went above 99. So people have different responses. It's not to say that not that I'm not saying that everybody is going to be fine. But some people are going to have a terrible time. And it's important to be that not that I'm not saying that everybody is going to be fine, but some people are going to have a terrible time and it's important to be considerate of others. The opposition is to these top-down mandates that even if they did work, I wouldn't support them because they're
Starting point is 01:30:51 mandates, but add on that they're not even effective. And I think that's where so much of the frustration comes from. The answer just really quickly is personal responsibility. If you're vulnerable, you should take extra measures to protect yourself. This is why I always have been talking about terrain therapy, early treatment, something that of course you could be doing. This should be a big wake-up call to a lot of people saying, hey, I'm going to take my life, my health into my own hands, and I'm going to make sure that I'm the best, healthiest version of myself because there is something. And we never underplayed it. We always took it seriously. We were affected by it. And it's important to understand personal responsibility solves all of this.
Starting point is 01:31:28 Your life is in your hands. The government shouldn't be controlling your life because when they do, they make it usually a lot worse. That's really all it is. I accept the risks. If I want to go bungee jumping, I'll go bungee jumping. Don't ban it. If I want to ride my bike, I'll ride my bike. If I want to go out in the middle of the woods where there's an open shooting range that's my choice don't ban it for me and i'll even
Starting point is 01:31:49 add this because i love the response from these twitter lefties who were like should we ban seat belts and i'm like yo if you want to wear a seat belt wear a seat belt if i don't want to wear a seat belt don't force me to do it exactly i prefer to wear a seat belt new hampshire new hampshire no seat belt laws are you serious Absolutely. No helmet laws either. Live free or die. It's your choice as an individual. The first thing the freestaters do, they're like, oh, in favor of banning seatbelt laws? Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:32:14 Bang the gavel. It's like, there's... Hallelujah. Thank goodness that we have a place in America where we have still some semblance of personal responsibility in your life being in your own hands. The funniest thing I saw in New Hampshire, your life being in your own hands. The funniest thing I saw in New Hampshire, though, was a man, huge muscular guy, no helmet, riding a big Harley,
Starting point is 01:32:31 but with a big mask on, which is a little ironic. But I understand there's bugs, too, but whatever. No, but do your thing, man. Yeah, that's his choice. Exactly. What he wants to do, it's his personal responsibility, and I'm not even going to judge him. Until he gets thrown off his bike and breaks his skull,
Starting point is 01:32:45 and then we have to have 15 EMS workers come out and waste hospital space to heal this dude that could have worn a helmet. Well, that's too bad. Don't strain my system because you're not going to take care of yourself. Your system? Yeah, I'm part of this system. We all are. Don't strain it because you don't want to take care of yourself.
Starting point is 01:33:00 That bothers me. I warned you, Kerry, that he was an authoritarian. Some things live free, but, I he was an authoritarian. Some things... Live free, but I mean, if you want to live free or die and really take that consequence, then that's a different story. No, no, no. I think it's fair to point out, Ian makes a good point,
Starting point is 01:33:16 that there are irresponsible people who don't take care of themselves. They don't wear helmets. They don't eat right. They get sick. And then they do clutter up the plumbing systems, the medical systems. There are people who play with fire and then jam up our fire department, then accidents are taken care of. I just don't think the answer is forcing people to do things in a sort of nanny state kind
Starting point is 01:33:35 of way. Because there's no limit to it. I mean, are you going to start policing obese people from eating cheeseburgers because they weigh down the system and hurt the medical institutions. Obviously, that's an incredulous kind of move that the big state control psychopaths want to have over your existence. If someone wants to win a Darwin Award, this might not sound like the nicest of things. Let them win the Darwin Award. What is that on you? Hold on.
Starting point is 01:34:02 It's not even about the Darwin Award. It's about skydiving. Exactly. Riding a motorcycle, even with a helmet, is very dangerous. Should we just say, you know what? Motorcycles are banned. But the thing about seatbelts is you don't know what a car accident is like until you get into one. And if you get into one, you better have your seatbelt on.
Starting point is 01:34:18 That's true. Driving cars is extremely dangerous. More people die from that than a lot of other causes of death in the United States. But are we going to ban driving? We ban heroin from kindergarten classes because we don't want kids to accidentally get hooked on it. You don't want someone to accidentally... We don't let kids drive.
Starting point is 01:34:35 When they're 16, they're still considered kids, technically. Sure, sure, sure. They're going to be driving trucks soon. Where's the line? So they automate them all. Ian, with respect, this is a good point because people need to understand our lines for what we tolerate are – they change from person to person. Like what should the drinking age be? Some people think it should be 18. I've actually seen a lot of – there's an advocacy group saying it should be 18 because they're adults and that by making this three-year gap from 18 to 21, you actually increase the risk of someone who lives on their own getting alcohol poisoning and then not seeking treatment.
Starting point is 01:35:09 But everybody's got a different idea of where that appropriate line is. So that's why I always lean more towards get the government out of it to a certain degree unless typically when kids are involved to a certain age, like don't deal drugs to kids. But if you're an adult, I think you should be able to imbibe or partake as you see fit. The problem is when you decide, Ian, this guy should have to wear a helmet because he's going to clog up the system if he gets injured, where do we draw the line? Should we just be like, don't let him ride the motorcycle, dude. Don't let him eat the cheeseburger. Yeah. Look, look, look. I don't like commercials for sugar for kids.
Starting point is 01:35:40 That bothers me. Like tobacco industry used to sell tobacco to kids. But let's address the motorcycle thing, right? If you think someone should have to wear a helmet on their motorcycle, why not just ban motorcycles? Then you get no accidents. No, I'm not trying to prevent the accidents. I'm trying to prevent the clog of the system. And people with helmets on will still break their legs and arms and could still get knocked out and get road rash and will still be in the hospitals.
Starting point is 01:36:04 So my thing is, hey, I'll tell you what's easier, Ian. Let's get real dark with it. At least if the guy's not wearing a helmet, he won't go to the hospital. He'll go to the morgue, right? No, no. That doesn't always work. But my point is, if your concern is clogging up the hospitals, you go to a dark place. The solution to the problem you present isn't what you think it is. Forcing someone to wear a helmet actually would increase the likelihood they'll go to the hospital if you want to clear up the system this is what happens people don't understand with with ai they'll say something like we want to create an algorithm that encourage that creates a system where people won't clog the hospitals and they'll
Starting point is 01:36:35 just be like okay no seatbelts no helmets everyone dies hospitals are open no we don't want that either yeah i'm not i'm not looking for the world peace where everyone gets incinerated so we just we just have to accept that people are going to make choices about their lives the way they want to live happy. And as long as you're not hurting others or stealing their stuff. What's the history of seatbelts? It used to be there were no seatbelt laws. Wasn't Ralph Nader a big crusader? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:01 Well, adding seatbelt laws? I think so. It was one of the, there was a company who created the three point seatbelt and then gave it away for free. And then I don't know if this is true, so you guys can fact check me, but I was told that there were insurance companies lobbying for seatbelt laws because it won't change the amount of accidents, but it'll reduce the amount they have to pay out if people are wearing seatbelts.
Starting point is 01:37:19 So they were very big advocates for forcing it. But let's go to super chats because we're a little bit late. If you haven't already, smash the like button. Subscribe to the channel. Share the show with your friends. We're going to have a members-only podcast up at Timcast IRL around 11 or so p.m. It's going to be fascinating. It's uncensored.
Starting point is 01:37:34 We cuss like sailors. You'll love it. But let's read some Super Chats. All right. Let's see what we got. Lucas Parada says, Hey, Timcast fam. I would just like to say that
Starting point is 01:37:45 ian has grown on me over the past year he definitely has a good heart even though graphene has taken part of it over i think the turning point for me was when ian used a football analogy undone yeah like sports too what's up hey you know what graphene is no i was just about to search it we'll talk about it so uh actually'll go deep on the after show. Actually, it was Michael Malice who said, I first didn't understand what Ian brought to the show, but now I get it. I love you, Michael. And I'm like, well, I'll say this to you, Ian, too.
Starting point is 01:38:16 The semantic arguments, that's just – I feel like – We kind of did away with those. Yeah, people don't like that. But the comment you brought up about authoritarianism sparks a good conversation. You brought up a good comment about Ebola. We were talking before, you know, Ian was like, if we're opposed to the lockdowns, what if it was an Ebola? We just let it spread.
Starting point is 01:38:32 And I'm like, it's an interesting point. To what degree of severity of pandemic would we all kind of be like, okay, shut it down? With COVID, we're not that scared of it. Democrats are. So their tolerance has been met. For me, if it was airborne Ebola, I'd still err on the side of let people take the risks they want and I'll go hide in the woods to stay away from airborne Ebola. Well, and I think the point is more people wouldn't want to chance it.
Starting point is 01:38:55 Like there would, I think there would be a lot more voluntary compliance and measures taken because the risk would be so blatant and obvious. Yeah, I think a lesson I've learned from this is you really don't have to force people to take precautions during a pandemic. If it's real, they will do it. Yeah. All right, let's grab some more Super Chats. Roberto Lara says, in Oklahoma, there's an apprenticeship test for 18 to 20-year-olds
Starting point is 01:39:21 to be truckers and drive across the states. It was in the infrastructure bill that Congress passed, and on Mentality, look up Billy Milligan. So we did mention that. I'm not a trucker, so I don't know if that's a big deal or not. Is that scary? Is that good? Maybe truckers are like, that's awesome, great, get more truckers. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:39:37 I'm not sure. I know there's a shortage. What's the problem exactly? That they're going to allow teenagers to drive trucks because they need more drivers. I think that's what bothers me is they're about to step into automated industry. So that entire industry is those people, 16-year-olds that are getting jobs now, probably in a decade aren't going to have those jobs anymore. Maybe this is time to phase out actual human truckers.
Starting point is 01:39:56 And I was going to say, one of the things that we were just looking at was the case of a 23-year-old driver who came downhill too fast and ended up killing a few people. He got a 150-year sentence. I guess they lightened it a little bit, but that's crazy. But there were a lot of people who commented saying that they were truckers and they agreed with the sentencing because he's responsible for that rig. And if he doesn't know how to use it, he shouldn't be driving. He could have taken off ramps from what I heard.
Starting point is 01:40:18 And he chose not to take like two off ramps. But the issue, I guess, that people were bringing up is if you take a job driving a truck and you get into an accident, we understand it's an accident. But if you choose to arm yourself with a gun, as is your right, and then you accidentally discharge it hitting people, you are still going to go to prison. And I'm like, that's actually a fair point. Like this guy chose to get behind the wheel of a rig that he didn't know how to handle and then killed people. If you don't know how to handle your weapon and you go out hey you're responsible for what comes out of that out of that gun you're responsible for what you hit when you're in a massive truck like that yeah so it's an interesting point because initially i was like this makes no sense it was an accident
Starting point is 01:40:54 and then people were like yeah but you got to understand the responsibility that comes with having such weight behind you and he was not prepared for that responsibility i don't know if life made sense, but I certainly understand the point people are making. Yeah. All right. Chris Stark says, dirty jobs and how it's made
Starting point is 01:41:12 should be required learning in schools so that upcoming generations and kids and teens get a real grasp on how things work. Also bring back civics and acts social studies. Mike Rowe didn't voice how it's made, did he? Or did he? I think that's his new show, no? Yeah, yeah, that is his new voice How It's Made, did he? Or did he? I think that's his new show, no? Yeah, yeah, that is his new show.
Starting point is 01:41:28 That's his show where he goes around and... How It's Made? No, no, no. How It's Made is like today on How It's Made, bubble gum. And then it shows the machine...
Starting point is 01:41:36 No, he didn't voice that one. Yeah. He didn't, yeah. He voiced one called That's How It Works or something. Oh, okay. He has a show that's... I gotta tell you, man,
Starting point is 01:41:43 one of the greatest shows ever made is How It's Made. Good show. I wonder, have they ever done How It's Made, How It's Made? No, no, for real, though. I think they have. They show how they do the productions, how they choose the stories. I think they've literally done that. Yo, it is amazing watching.
Starting point is 01:42:00 I watched one how they made marbles. I watched one how they made candy. Bourbon. Honey. Rice. I was just looking at these. Beautiful. I watched one how they made candy. Bourbon. Honey. Rice. I was just looking at these. Beautiful. Two and a half million views.
Starting point is 01:42:09 Five million views. Not only is it educational, it's hypnotizing. You learn so much about the mechanization process of production. Seriously, have your kids watch that stuff. Yes. So I agree with this comment. And Dirty Jobs too, man. When Mike Rowe mentioned he goes into a sewer, and I'm like, yes.
Starting point is 01:42:29 I think it's a really, really important lesson for everybody in the kind of jobs that we don't see. That people probably don't want to see. Like sewer maintenance. And having to go into a sewer. Yeah. I would disagree with the commentator. And I would just be like, don't rely on the state to educate your children. And don't expect them to do a good job at it.
Starting point is 01:42:50 I think they're being figurative, like people should have their kids watch these shows. Oh, absolutely. Well, about the civics education, though, because I was thinking about that. Yeah, which is, as far as I know, civics education hasn't gone away. I know that, I mean, I'm not not a child but when i was in school we learned all about how the government works and people have been learning about this for generations and yet we ended up here so i'm not sure that teaching people how the government functions and how to participate is necessarily a guard against tyranny or authoritarianism or
Starting point is 01:43:18 all the ways things have gone sideways all right madison lynn says, Luke, beautiful-eyed POC Luke, have that shirt as a hoodie. Damn right. We already do have it as a hoodie on thebestpoliticalshirts.com and there's multiple options, women's shirts, regular shirts, you name it, we got it.
Starting point is 01:43:37 They're going to mention that people think they're a leftist because they have, quote, people are gangs until they explain they're anti-state. Well, police are gangs, not people. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Police are gangs. Politicians are criminals. Luke gave me a magnesium before the show, and
Starting point is 01:43:50 it's not sitting well. Really? It does give you... I told you what it does. It does good with zinc. It's not making me tired. It's making me feel like I'm going to barf. Oh, no. Yeah, maybe it's too much. No, this is... Maybe... You took like one. I think you have to get dehydrated. Well, I did drink a ton
Starting point is 01:44:06 of water and I feel a lot better, but I think it might have more to do with the fact that I may already have proper magnesium and that was too much. Most people don't, actually. It's the molecule at the center of every chlorophyll, or it's the atom at the center of every chlorophyll molecule. It's incredible. Magnesium is so powerful.
Starting point is 01:44:22 And it's so important for your health. That's all the green vegetables. It's magnesium. It's incredible. Magnesium is so powerful. And it's so important for your health. That's all the green vegetables. It's magnesium. It's all about that mag, magnetic, M-A-G, yo. Kevin Collins says, why has no one created billboards to expose the woke? Loud in schools, VaxInfo, et cetera. Maybe offer money to whistleblowers
Starting point is 01:44:37 with credible evidence of corruption in government schools, corpse, military, et cetera. Any other ideas? I don't know if you can offer money for it outright like that, but Project Veritas are the foremost experts on whistleblowing and stuff. So what is their email? Veritas Tips? Tips at Veritas, I think.
Starting point is 01:44:52 Veritas Tips at ProtonMail. Do they still have that one? Is that one? That sounded like James when I said that, too. Yeah. You know, definitely. So I've had people message me like, hey, I want to speak up. I want to challenge this stuff. And I'm just like, as much as I'd love to, we are not at that point where we're equipped to deal with anything like that. Project Veritas is.
Starting point is 01:45:09 So you guys, if you notice any wrongdoing, criminal activity or malfeasance, talk to the Veritas guys. And, I mean, they will work with you. Not every story makes it. It's just the way it is. But Veritas truly is great. We had James on the show yesterday. It was awesome. All right. Jason says, Tim, there's's just the way it is. But Veritas truly is great. We had James on the show yesterday. It was awesome. All right.
Starting point is 01:45:26 Jason says, Tim, there's a new ammo round coming out, 8.6 blackout for Remington 700 and AR-10 type rifles. Research company called Q who designed 300 blackout. Have you heard of them? Q is a, yeah, it's one of the leading firearms companies in the United States. And it's not the conspiracy theory. It's a gun manufacturer that does really well-made firearms. I own one of their Sugar Weasels, which is a very fun pistol. That is really cool to shoot in 300 blackout.
Starting point is 01:46:02 All right. Let's grab some more. uber says hey tim you're hiring security i have seen i have seven years of armed experience including leadership and canine handler where can i apply uh so we we have security we're getting even more security and uh yeah uh a lot of people based on like the vlog and other things that have happened, have been like, why don't you have security? It's like, we do. But what you need to understand is that I guess we're getting to the point where I didn't think we needed armed guards standing checkpoint in our acre-long driveway and things like that.
Starting point is 01:46:39 You know what I mean? Yeah, I learned that with mines. Just really quickly. Why do you think I was trying to set up a fight club inside of the Beanie Castle? I don't want security. No security. We teach everyone jiu-jitsu. We're going to have a jiu-jitsu class inside of the house this Thursday.
Starting point is 01:46:52 It's all going to be on the vlog. I've been doing kickboxing classes. Self-defense is definitely where it's at. And being fushishis, obviously, we should get security. When we were building mines, we learned pretty quick that you think you're building one thing, but then immediately we needed all these bug testers and beta testers. So we weren't building a beta test company, but we found out after we started that that's what we needed was a button. And so similar with security, when you're doing a media company, it turns out it's a huge part of the organization.
Starting point is 01:47:20 There's a lot of crazy people out there. Yeah, yeah. I'll just say you know briefly we had someone sneak in the other day they waited my understanding is they waited until our guests were arriving and then tried coming at the same time and then tried claiming they were invited in which is a complete lie we have surveillance footage of it they in order to get here you have to drive i mean how many how long is the is the? 200 feet? No, that's an understatement. I don't know. It's like 1,500 feet. It's pretty long. Yeah. It's an acre long. I don't know how
Starting point is 01:47:52 that makes sense because acre is like a square distance, but it's a very, very long distance. And there's big signs. There's multiple signs saying no admittance, no entry without permission, no trespassing. You'll be prosecuted. And this person comes in here. And the problem is we are armed. We were just swatted. And this person got lucky, very, very lucky. And we've got dogs.
Starting point is 01:48:15 We've got big ones. We do have security. We are armed. And so I'm like, this shouldn't have happened. But we didn't, you know, this person basically waited until our guests had all arrived when we had a group coming in and then walks in when everyone was occupied. And it shouldn't have happened, but it did. We had a breach. And so now we have increased security 10x, and the police are involved, and this guy is going to get the full brunt of whatever
Starting point is 01:48:46 there is because when we get swatted, when we get death threats, when we have people here who are actively getting death threats and then you think you're going to come on here to try and get yourself promoted and lie about what happened, we can't tolerate that. No. Not at all. Not personal at all. You got to be strong.
Starting point is 01:49:00 You got to be consistent. Yeah, we can't allow that, man. I mean, look, we've talked about wanting to have people be able to come here. We talked about how we wanted to do semi-private events where members would be allowed to come. We can't legally do it. So when someone enters the property, they're causing extreme harm to everyone across the board and putting us at serious risk. All right, let's read some more. We got Jeremiah Jensen.
Starting point is 01:49:21 He says, Tim, I am a truck driver from West Virginia. In a segment today, you were talking about truck drivers not going to big cities. Vaccines only play one part. Drivers didn't want to go there before this. Mandates was just the last straw. I noticed that you were mentioning, Lydia, that in like Frederick, the stores were empty. Yeah, so one of the things I saw was that there were a bunch of empty shelves. I went into, I actually tweeted about it.
Starting point is 01:49:42 And then that day I went into Walmart and I saw just there was no meat, there was no chicken, there's almost no produce. In Frederick. Yes. And they have a mask mandate in Frederick County. Yeah, they do. When I went to West Virginia, Food Lion and Weiss, nothing. No problems. I mean, when I mean nothing, I say there were no problems. Food was everywhere. It was great.
Starting point is 01:50:00 Well, we also went to a Walmart in West Virginia, just down the road from us, and similar problem. So I don't know. Maybe it's a Walmart problem. I don't know. It could be. Also, my other grocery store in Frederick, there was like bare shelves, and people are posting it.
Starting point is 01:50:15 East Coast seems to be heavily affected by these shortages, middle of the country, not so much. So it might be just a local thing. Not sure. Daniel F. says, Trudeau is no mastermind. He's a trust fund kid with a famous last name. He is he is however an authoritarian wannabe with a strong admiration for the ccp any room for some canadian refugees good luck oh poor canada now now now they're doing this vaccinated canada's gonna get cut off so much of their goods get imported from the u.s well you can you can thank trudeau and everyone who voted for him.
Starting point is 01:50:46 David Holguin says, Tim, use The Walking Dead Season 1 Episode 2 Guts as a reference for the skit. If you're looking for some help, talent, and putting something together, search Crit Short Film and tell me what you think. All the best. Congrats, Lids and Andy. Congratulations.
Starting point is 01:51:02 Oh, yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Alright, what do we got? Let's get some more stewart sockwell says in 2015 when i became a truck driver i kept hearing there's a shortage of truck drivers but one day someone said to me it's harder to demand a raise if you're replaceable maybe there's some truth to that oh i like this one carl andrews says proof of gun shut up and take my money. Yes. I tweeted that in response to Thomas Massey. We should have gun mandates.
Starting point is 01:51:30 Yes, I love that idea. Man, if I was in office, Rhonda Santus should do this. Or not Rhonda Santus, but any Republican in a Democrat area should just be like, oh, you're doing vax mandates? Gun mandate. I hereby decree I'm the mayor of the town. Everyone must have a gun and proof of gun to enter the bill and then see how people react to it. And they're going to be like, how dare you mandate? It keeps people safe. We have data proving that guns are more likely to be used protecting people than to harm people, than to harm the innocent.
Starting point is 01:51:56 It keeps people safe. Ian, Ian. There's a pandemic of crime. If it saves one life. That's right. That's right. There's a pandemic of crime. There's a pandemic of crime.
Starting point is 01:52:03 That's right. We saw that article. I will not stop until it is eradicated. That's right. If it saves one life. That's right. That's right. There is a pandemic of crime. There's a pandemic of crime. That's right. We saw that article. I will not stop until it is eradicated. That's right. If it saves one life. Zero murder. Then why not?
Starting point is 01:52:10 Why not? Yeah, yeah. Someone mentioned too. I think we'll find the super chat. Here we go. Here we go. Zyfo says, Tim, did you know
Starting point is 01:52:15 that the Militia Act of 1792 required gun ownership and to be armed when traveling away from home for all adult males? Didn't know that. Gotta look that up. Why would you not be armed?
Starting point is 01:52:27 Yeah. You know? Look, man, people drive big cars all day every day and I'm not worried about them hitting me. Like, obviously, I look both ways when I cross the street, but I don't think the guy in the truck is going to just charge at me. I see people out in West Virginia armed all the time.
Starting point is 01:52:40 I'm not worried about them shooting me. I don't go like, oh, no, oh, they got a weapon. It's like, people got cars. If they want to use them, they can use them in bad ways. People got guns, they can use them in bad ways. Alright, Kyle Beckman says, did I just hear that Tim now opposes universal healthcare? If not, you should ask parents in
Starting point is 01:52:55 Canada, UK, how long it takes to get kids diagnosed with autism and start therapy. I'll put it this way. My criticism was California doubling their tax rate to pay for it, which would just drive rich people away from the state and they would have no funds to pay for it. I think realistically, we as a nation will struggle to implement something on a mass scale.
Starting point is 01:53:15 I think idealistically, wouldn't it be great if we could have a functioning medical system universally for everybody? The problem is, as Ian mentioned, you can't because people don't take care of themselves. Let food be thy medicine. That's what Hippocrates, the father of modern medicine, instructed everyone to do. What I mean is,
Starting point is 01:53:33 if you want universal healthcare, you also need to mandate people do early morning calisthenics. Diet. I mean, the medical industry and the food industry are so intertwined now after, what was it, the 1910? They signed the... Some act got signed in 1910 where the medical industry basically –
Starting point is 01:53:50 they started to do away with homeopathic medicine. And the Flexner Report was the name of the report that got issued. But it's the food. If you're going to feed someone sugar and then give them Prozac to counteract the negative things, that's the same industry basically, essentially. This is why it won't work. Because basically, if you try and do universal healthcare, a leak will spring up
Starting point is 01:54:10 in your boat and you'll stick your finger and another leak will pop and you'll keep trying to plug all the holes, which you can't do. So ultimately, you just need decentralization. I don't think you can allow actual freedom. I think that centralized healthcare is going to require a great deal of authoritarianism that we don't want, especially
Starting point is 01:54:25 in a country with 330 million people. It's not going to work. Or serious cultural changes. And the thing, too, is the healthcare system is already so corrupted. These interests have already overtaken Congress. Like, who are you expecting to do this in a way that isn't built on a bedrock of cronyism and corruption
Starting point is 01:54:41 that isn't really looking out for people's best interests? So the idea is really nice, but pragmatically and realistically i don't think everybody in america is going to re-elect progressive only politicians who are going to scrap the entire system and then build a brand new one which would already have its own issues because of the centralization all right we got murph he says tim when are you going to have awaken with jp on the show as soon as jp wants to come on the show. That's right. He's going to be in D.C. for the rally happening soon.
Starting point is 01:55:08 So maybe we can get in contact with him then. JP, if you hear this message, come on the show. We're here in the D.C. We're not far from D.C. We're an hour away. That'd be awesome. JP's awesome. I need guests.
Starting point is 01:55:20 That'd be cool. Let's go. Yeah. All right. All right. Jamie says, I approve of your proof of Pew Pew. That'd be cool. Let's go. Yeah. All right. Jamie says, I approve of your proof of pew-pew. That's right. I like that.
Starting point is 01:55:31 You walk up to a diner and they're like, excuse me, do you have your guns? Yes, I have it right here. Excellent. And your wife? Honey, do you have your Glock on you? I do. And your children? I see you have a young boy.
Starting point is 01:55:41 Yes, he's got his AR with him. Oh, wonderful. And your young seven-year-old daughter? she does have, like, what would she have? She doesn't have one, though. Well, we have one here that she can use. That would be good. And then, like, all they have are really big ones. They've got, you know, a Barrett.
Starting point is 01:55:58 Well, she can't carry that. It's okay. What's that meme where it's like children and guns do not mix? They're too heavy. And then it was like children are better suited for crew-served weapons. That's okay. What's that meme where it's like children and guns do not mix? They're too heavy, and then it was like children are better suited for crew-served weapons? That's right.
Starting point is 01:56:10 It builds teamwork, and the mobile nature of the weapons allows them to better handle them. Correct. That's a good meme. It's a booth with the crew-served machine gun. It's attached to the table. When they walk in, they're like,
Starting point is 01:56:20 oh, I noticed your young daughter doesn't have a weapon. Don't worry. And then they walk over, and there's like a rack of things. Yeah. Here you go. You can have this one.
Starting point is 01:56:28 I couldn't think of any of the good, really small weapons I had. And I also couldn't decide if the young girl should even get a smaller weapon and just get a standard one. Yeah. Mr. Toad says, Tim, you quote it often in the movie Network, but have you seen it? How accurate do you think it is? I have a really, really long time ago
Starting point is 01:56:45 when I was like really young, so I don't remember. I have to rewatch it for sure. But you guys remember that movie? I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore! You gotta open the windows or whatever. Like, scream it! They used to tell me I was that guy. In my YouTube videos. They'd be like, God, you're like the guy from Network.
Starting point is 01:57:02 I never saw it. Tankart says, if you read the history of the Spanish flu of 1918, it was about two years of it, and it was covered up by the media by the order of the Wilson administration because of World War I. Last wave was weak.
Starting point is 01:57:16 Antibodies lasted 90 years. Wow, crazy. Yeah, I read a decent bit about it, and like the trenches were making it worse. People were getting sick, and they were filthy and injured. And, oh, geez. Just really, really bad. All right, we'll just grab a couple more.
Starting point is 01:57:33 Let's see what we can get in here. Free Men Die Free says, Healthcare was number one in the U.S. prior to Medicare, Medicaid, etc. Subsidies and government intervention is always the problem. Doctors used to come to your home. That's true. Remember those those stories doctor would show up to be honest though back then medical treatment was something different biting a bullet they didn't have anesthetic really they would have you bite a bullet civil war yeah you die by choking instead of by you know man it's kind
Starting point is 01:57:59 of crazy that they had to amputate your leg instead of just splashing some soap on it we are really lucky antiseptics man no joke that's why you know we we got a bunch of uh i think did you order the isopropyl alcohol ian yeah yeah ian and vinegar yeah yeah and iodine and iodine yeah yeah yeah keep it alive that's right keep it healthy dude soap is no joke that's something i've learned from the pandemic too is i wash my hands twice as much as I used to. Soap is no joke. Good. Soap is no joke. And it's not like just God-given that you have it in your house. It's not a – it basically cured the Black Plague. They didn't have soap, so they had a plague instead.
Starting point is 01:58:34 But now you have soap, so use it. All right. We got one more here. Let's read this. The Belschnickel says, I got a fever, and the only prescription is more Brent Mason's signature Telecaster. Much love and respect from AZ. Carrie Lake for Governor. That is right. Behind me is the Brent
Starting point is 01:58:50 Mason Signature Telecaster. It's so good. It's so amazing. It's an excellent guitar. And more importantly, if you watch Brent Mason actually play the guitar, he's like a robot. It's some of the best guitar playing I've ever seen. And just an aside, it's just hanging up there because it's a really great little instrument.
Starting point is 01:59:08 And I'm stoked to have one. But, my friends, you should go to TimCast.com and become a member right now because we have a members-only segment coming up for you. We publish them around 11 or so p.m. We swear a lot. They're uncensored. They get spicy. So you want to check it out. You can also follow the show at TimCastIRL.
Starting point is 01:59:29 Follow us on Instagram. We post clips all day every day you can follow me at timcast uh basically everywhere else carrie do you want to shout anything out uh you can find me on twitter carrie underscore wedler i'm on youtube i don't know if my channel is compromised as far as reach but i would love it if you went to my channel and checked it out. And you can find me on Instagram. I was recently banned from TikTok, but I'm hoping to be back. We got banned from TikTok. I'm decided. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think it's that hard. I'm thinking about starting a TikTok. I might do it. I'm thinking about getting banned on TikTok myself. Thank you, Ian. I appreciate that. I made a pretty interesting video about the end of COVID on youtube.com forward slash we are changed. Check that out if you have some time. And I made a pretty interesting video about the end of COVID on youtube.com forward slash we are changed. Check that out if you have some time. And I made a spicier one about Prince Andrew on Luke uncensored.com. Hope to see some of you guys there. Thanks so much for having me. And this was a great conversation. Great. Having my fellow anarcheme-ist. Meme-stress. I love it. Yes. Meme-ist. Meme-ery. Whatever. Thanks for coming. Is your YouTube channel
Starting point is 02:00:26 Carrie Wedler? It is, yeah. Hey, everybody. WeAreChange.org. Thank you. That was a weird stance. I love it. Did you like that?
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