Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #452 - Now 1,000 Experts Demand Joe Rogan be Censored, Gettr CEO Audio Leaks w/Christian Toto

Episode Date: January 22, 2022

Tim, Ian, Luke and Lydia join Christian Toto, of HollywoodInToto.com, and Libby Emmons, of The Post Millennial, to discuss the list of 'medical professionals' that's grown in numbers to over 1,000 as ...they attempt to cancel Joe yet again, the DOJ list that organizes people distrustful of the government as potential domestic terrorists, the James Lindsey conversation with Joe Rogan about hpw the left smears everyone they disagree with as 'far right', and how the woke narrative is crushing Hollywood. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 His name is Robert Paulson. His name was Robert Paulson. Is Robert Paulson. His name is Robert Paulson. Potato, potato. I made that mistake too. I typed in the chat first, his name was, and then I looked up to be sure, and it's actually the line is, his name is Robert Paulson.
Starting point is 00:00:15 And of course, that is a tribute to Meatloaf, who passed away. He was a rad dude. He was a legendary rock star. He was in Fight Club, and that was the reference we made to him. And he was also pro-freedom. He opposed the mandates. He opposed mask mandates and vax mandates. He stood up against them. Apparently, he criticized Greta Thunberg. I don't know if that matters as much, but I really respect that he was an older guy. He was 74, and he said that he wasn't going to live his life in fear, and they shouldn't shut down the world
Starting point is 00:00:43 for politics, and that's what they're doing. And I respect that. And he got seriously ill with COVID and that was his choice. I'm sure you're going to get all those Herman Cain award people, you know, laughing at him, but these people don't understand what freedom means. It means if I want to choose to go bungee jumping, I can choose to go bungee jumping. There's danger. If I want to choose to go skydiving and my shoot doesn't happen, I made those choices and meatloaf stood up for everyone else's freedom.
Starting point is 00:01:04 He chose it for his freedom and he knew the risks. So you know what? Mad respect to Meatloaf. Sad to see him go. But, you know, he was 74. So we got a bunch of other news, too. We got Joe Rogan, that hoax list where there were like 270 doctors and it turned out to be like 80 doctors and like some dentist or something. The list is now bigger.
Starting point is 00:01:20 And now it's 1,000 medical and science experts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, we'll talk about that stuff. We'll talk talk about culture and censorship we've got two really big stories joe biden has lost another court battle a federal judge has struck down the federal worker mandate for vaccines and we have a new report from reuters saying that prior covet infection provides better immunity during the it did provide better immunity during the delta surge which we can then take data from that extrapolate and apply it to the future. Seems like Luke was right on this one, and I was wrong, that they're going to start easing up the mandates.
Starting point is 00:01:51 But we'll see. It's yet to be seen here in the United States. So we'll get into all this stuff. Joining us today is Christian Toto. Do you want to introduce yourself? Sure. I'm the editor of HollywoodInToto.com, and my new book is called Virtue Bombs, How Hollywood Got Woke and Lost Its Soul. So we can talk a lot about this cultural stuff, particularly.
Starting point is 00:02:09 I think you're an expert on that. That'll be awesome. We've got Libby Emmons joining us tonight. Hi. Here I am. I'm the editor-in-chief of the Postmillennial. Glad to be back. And hey, guys.
Starting point is 00:02:19 My name is Luke Rudasky of WeAreChanged.org, and today I am wearing my Make America Florida shirt, which you can get on the best political shirts.com, but I'm also wearing it because in a few days from now, I will be moving to Miami, Florida, and I am extremely appreciative and grateful for all of you. Amazing human beings, a part of this broadcast and podcast.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Hopefully I could come back maybe during the spring, maybe during the fall. We'll see. But I want to do a lot of amazing things in Florida. I want to do some cool projects. If you guys want to get involved with that, hit me up. You guys know my contact information. And I will definitely miss you guys and the conversations
Starting point is 00:02:57 and everything we've been able to achieve here. It's been a wild ride. It's okay, Luke. Luke got really scared over what's been going on. He was like, please, I gotta get out of here. And we were like, come on, Luke, I'll be fine. I was trying to leave for so long, but then the threats came and then the swatting came and I was like,
Starting point is 00:03:13 I can't look like a punk. I gotta stay a little bit longer and a little bit longer. But seriously, very appreciative of everybody and everything and it's going to be sad to go. We were wrapping up a show and then Luke goes, I'm going to be leaving right as all these threats are coming in. People are going to think I'm scared.
Starting point is 00:03:29 I can't do that. I kept postponing it. That's part of the nature of Luke. He migrates with the seasons. I just wanted to clarify, I'm not going out for cigarettes. I'm not going out. It was fair warning.
Starting point is 00:03:44 If you guys want us to maybe go down to Florida for a week or so and maybe party with Luke and do a show down there, put a five in the chat. Five. Put a five in the chat for that one. Smash the like button. Smash it. Yeah. And if we get enough likes, then we'll take the new mobile studio down to Florida and
Starting point is 00:03:59 we'll do the show down there for a little bit. I like the sound of that. I'm Ian Crossland. You follow me at iancrossland.net and I will see you soon. I'm going to make sure to pierce those tires so you guys stay in Florida when you guys get down there because there's a lot of amazing things to do there. Can you send a care package or freedom to Denver for me just for me? Yeah, I would love to do that.
Starting point is 00:04:14 A care package of freedom. Yes, that's how it works. Yeah, I'm also here pushing buttons in the corner. Very excited to have Libby back, who's apparently matching Luke because he's about to head off and leave us in the distance. Yep, and I'm also wearing red. Yes, I'm excited for tonight's conversation. It's going to be great with Christian and Libby back, who's apparently matching Luke as he's about to head off and leave us in the distance. Yep, I'm also wearing red. I'm excited for tonight's conversation. It's going to be great with Christian and Libby. Before we get started, head over
Starting point is 00:04:30 to TimCast.com, become a member, help support all of our work here at the TimCast IRL podcast, and you'll be supporting our journalists. As a member, you'll get an ad-free experience and access to exclusive members-only segments on the TimCast IRL podcast. You don't want to miss it. On Fridays, we do the Green Room show every so often. And this is where we have our guests coming in,
Starting point is 00:04:48 in the Green Room. They're hanging out and it's very candid. And that way we can have, you know, we can kind of mix it up. So again, TimCast.com, support the show. Don't forget to smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share this show right now, the URL, everywhere you can, because that grassroots effort will make us bigger than CNN and MSNBC and Fox News overnight. Let's get into that first story. We got a tweet here from NPR. More than 1,000 scientists and health professionals are calling on Spotify to crack down on COVID falsehoods being spread on Joe Rogan's podcast. The pressure highlights a trend. Podcasts are becoming influential sources of misinformation. I want to
Starting point is 00:05:25 pull up the article, but I want to point out the framing technique they pulled off here from NPR. They didn't say being spread by Joe Rogan. They said on Joe Rogan's podcast. What they're saying is anybody who wants to interview someone who would say something out of line with the official establishment narrative must be stopped. It's not about Joe Rogan as an individual. It's about the fact that Joe would talk to someone who is considered persona non grata by the machine. Now that is a whole new level of creepy. If they were just saying Joe has bad ideas, well, then you could be like, well, you know, he's not the expert. He's the guy who interviews a lot of the experts. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:06:03 They're talking about the people he hosts and interviews. They don't like the fact that he gives people an opportunity to speak up. And I also want to point out the list was originally 270 people. And it turned out only 87 were actually, you know, practiced medicine. I guess technically you could say veterinarians practice medicine and dentists do too. But some of them were like podcast hosts. Now the list has expanded. They say an open letter urging Spotify to crack down on COVID, blah, blah, blah. The medical and scientific experts
Starting point is 00:06:32 slammed Rogan's track record of airing false claims. They go on to say the list has now expanded to 1000 people. And you know what? So what? They're going after podcasts. They're mad that this is one of the last bastions of unfettered speech, though there have been podcasts that have been banned. Here they go. They did it to YouTube. They did that big adpocalypse campaign. The media smeared them relentlessly.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Now they're going to go after all the big podcast platforms. But this is crazy and just absolutely absurd. I remember seeing the 270 doctors that they first put out and it was everywhere in the corporate media. And I was like, let me just take a look at this list. And I saw dentists and I saw political professionals. I saw a veterinarian. I saw students. I saw political scientists. And I'm like, wait, wait, what? These people should be, number one, ashamed of themselves because they should be challenging these ideas, not trying to silence them. And I made a post about this and it went all throughout twitter specifically saying these are
Starting point is 00:07:30 not practicing medical doctors now there's a thousand of them i haven't checked the list but i still remember being publicly attacked by a gynecologist on twitter who is on that list being like he's calling me out he's He's trying to blur the lines here. He's trying to spread misinformation. No, we're not. You could counter the information. You don't have to silence it. And when you type in Joe Rogan into Google News right now,
Starting point is 00:07:53 you get nothing but smear pieces, attack pieces that literally look like they almost come from the Chinese Cultural Revolution with double-speak Orwellian language. Yahoo News has an article, The Problem with Joe Rogan and White Boys. The Independent. These experts say Joe Rogan is an extraordinary danger to society. Here's why.
Starting point is 00:08:14 NPR, of course, has more blamed articles about online misinformation. Again, counter the data. Dr. Robert Malone has a lot of credentials. He listed his credentials. He is someone who was an extremely important part to this entire process that the world is going through with this larger experiment. Challenge his ideas. Don't take out his tongue because when you do that, you prove him right. Look at this one from NJ.com. The long list of things I will not be asking Joe Rogan for advice about. And it's got Fauci. He says, I've been an infectious disease expert
Starting point is 00:08:45 for 50 years. And then Joe Rogan's saying, I get kicked in the head for fun. Yeah, okay. Not anymore. He quit kickboxing because he didn't like getting hit. But it's just so stupid. Anybody who's ever actually listened to his show know that he's an inquisitive guy who asks questions of experts. That's it. If they
Starting point is 00:09:01 really wanted to play games, they could show Fauci, and then they could show Peter McCullough or Dr. Robert Malone. That would be really interesting. Fauci would be like, I'm a bureaucrat of the past 40 years and Malone would be like, I invented mRNA vaccines. How about that one? But they shut down Malone. Yeah, there's another thing about
Starting point is 00:09:18 this though, which is this is what happens to any new media. Do you remember the blogosphere? Do you guys remember the blogosphere? I remember the blogosphere. Yeah. So this was like, it was a while. It was like in the early 2000s, all of these blogs were popping up
Starting point is 00:09:31 and people were getting their news from blogs. And so you had mainstream media outlets, corporate media outlets, slamming the blogosphere. Like I believe the press secretary at the White House actually used that term, saying, you know, you can't trust these sources. These are terrible sources. That's exactly what they're doing now to podcasters.
Starting point is 00:09:48 They don't like anyone that gets more popular than their own corporate media outlets. That's why it's so important. Wasn't PJ Media like pajamas media? Wasn't that the slam against the bloggers? They were just in their pajamas at home and that's why you can't trust them. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I'm not joking. It's real. And they could have embraced it. I'm not joking. It's real. I no longer wear pajamas personally. I cover late night TV, and late night TV gets so many facts wrong on such a consistent basis. Where are the lineup of doctors saying that Stephen Colbert is full of it?
Starting point is 00:10:20 Where are they? Did you see Colbert call for abolishing the Senate? He was like, what's the point? He's like, the Democrats represent more people. And it's like represent does not mean they agree with them. It's fascinating. They don't like their machine being challenged. That's the obvious point.
Starting point is 00:10:37 But they're losing. And that's why I love the Joe Rogan subject matter because Joe's winning and doesn't care. You know what's really funny? I feel like Joe is sitting on the throne of biggest podcast, doing his thing, and then mainstream media and us are like just down on the ground bickering to each other and complaining about it and Joe just doesn't care. How long will Spotify have his back though? I think that's the big question. What? Two years?
Starting point is 00:11:02 I think that'll be it. An average age of contracts, you know, and then once it's up, they're going to be like, but I actually... They must be making a lot of money from him, though. Oh, yeah. The company was valued over a billion dollars. The stock skyrocketed. As soon as he came on the platform. Yeah, I was kind of bummed because I was like, when
Starting point is 00:11:19 I knew that the shift was going to be happening, I was like, man, I should have bought all that Spotify stuff. Because it just skyrocketed once. I didn't even think about it, to be happening, I was like, man, I should have bought all that Spotify stuff. Because it just skyrocketed once I didn't even think about it, to be honest. In reference to Stephen Colbert saying that we should abolish the Senate or whatever he was saying, it was weird because he was like, the Senate is the most anti-democratic thing. But what he doesn't seem to understand is we're not
Starting point is 00:11:35 a democracy. We're a democratic republic. And the Senate is the essence of the republic. It's a stopgap for democratic mob mentality. Stephen Colbert is Emperor Palpatine. That's giving him too much credit, though. But not as funny as the Emperor. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:49 It would have been funnier if when he called for abolishing the Senate, he just, like, his voice changed. You'll be dissolving the Galactic Senate. I mean, the Federal Republic Senate. He's the jester. Klaus Schwab is the real Emperor Palpatine, in my opinion, with everything he's been pushing forward with the World Economic Forum and the Great Reset.
Starting point is 00:12:05 But again, Joe Rogan is as popular as he is because he comes off as very genuine, very honest. He has conversations that a lot of people are afraid to even think about, and he entertains ideas in a way that's not forced upon you, in a way that is naturally understood and just talked about in a rational way rather than, of course, PR corporate talking points. And that's why he is where he is right now. Let's admit that. I think Joe represents like you're a regular person.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Fauci does not. No. For the longest time, there's been this conversation around like citizen journalists. And it's really funny because people don't know what it means. Citizen journalism referenced somebody would be walking their dog and then see something happen and then film it. And that's what it means. You're referenced, somebody would be walking their dog and then see something happen and then film it. And that's what it means. You're a citizen who happens
Starting point is 00:12:48 to commit an act of journalism, but people who specifically try to engage in journalism are not citizen journalists. But the conversation around that was basically, why should we trust these individuals? And a lot of people said, well, look, the suit on TV, talking to you as the authority doesn't work anymore.
Starting point is 00:13:03 People have trust in themselves and they want to talk to trusted people. They don't trust foreign, you know, like outside of their life, I mean, kind of establishment elites. They want a regular person. They can feel like their neighbor who can talk to them.
Starting point is 00:13:17 So Fauci represents the establishment elite of we are smarter than you and we know it. And Joe represents, hey man, don't listen to me. I'm an idiot, but I just got some questions. But there was this great clip going around. I think James Lindsay shared it from the World Economic Forum in November. And it was this lady talking about how the elites all are banding together internationally
Starting point is 00:13:37 and are working together to get their agenda across. But in each country individually, the lower classes don't trust the elites. And she was talking about this as though this is some big problem. The rest of us don't trust our elites. We don't trust these people who are telling us what to do based on their own international conglomeration
Starting point is 00:13:58 of ideology and wealth hoarding. Real quick, I hate the elites. Not every single person. It's not absolute, but just like Fauci and Biden and the Uniparty
Starting point is 00:14:12 and Mitch McConnell's in there. These establishment, these ultra wealthy. I just... I'm dying to say something because they're literally calling themselves the elites. We're the elites.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Our pack got closer. We're a lot closer, but everyone else doesn't like us. Gee, you wonder why, as of course, we literally went through an entire situation. Why are you putting that madman in front of me? Controlled opposition. That dog torturer. I don't want to be seen with that man. But they are literally in a situation where they have profited off tremendously off of this entire pandemic.
Starting point is 00:14:46 They have created a situation where the rich are becoming richer than they ever have before. And they wonder, why don't they trust us? And, of course, their circle got tighter. And what's really surprising about the World Economic Forum, they literally put out all of their plans right in front of you. They write about it. They said it. They boast about it. They said it straight out.
Starting point is 00:15:04 They discussed the Great Reset in detail. And then as soon as we all started writing about like, oh, y'all, have you seen this plan? This is a crazy plan. The fact checkers swooped in and started saying that this wasn't actually real. And it's like, look at the damn documents. They're right there.
Starting point is 00:15:20 They said it. They said it out loud. The corporate media is like, conspiracy theorists, conspiracy theorists. These are crazy people making it up. And they literally just reverted New World Order into the Great Reset. That's exactly what it is. And let's be honest with it. And they figured we'd all be such plebs that we wouldn't actually notice. We can't actually read.
Starting point is 00:15:37 They rebranded the New World Order and still put out all of their documents. We're like the medieval Catholics who don't understand Latin. No, we know what it says. They literally try to make you eat bugs. There's like short little videos that they put out on Twitter saying, eating bugs is going to be great and save the world.
Starting point is 00:15:52 So check this out, check this out. On January 20th, I was on Twitter and the What's Happening page popped up with, the great reset is the World Economic Forum's proposal for post-COVID economic recovery, Reuters and the BBC report. And I just screen grabbed it and put LOL. I thought it was funny.
Starting point is 00:16:08 They keep trying to do this thing where they're like, the Great Reset, it's just this. It's just that the funny thing is, it reminds me of when Hillary Clinton was campaigning and she put on a Southern drawl when she was, and like she didn't realize the internet existed and that human beings talk to each other. She's pretty old.
Starting point is 00:16:25 So what's fascinating about the Great Reset, the World Economic Forum, the Davos Group, is I feel like it's a bunch of 80-year-olds who are like, how are people finding out about our plan for the Great Reset? And it's like, have those social media, just tell everyone what to believe. And then regular people look at it and go, yeah, that's BS. Like we're not cows. You know what I mean? We don't just get at it and go yeah that's that's bs like we're not cows or you know what i mean we don't we don't just get told something and go oh but it really it really is it when hillary clinton put she put on that southern dialect because she thought she was going to trick people into thinking that she was from the south or whatever i get it she is but she doesn't talk that way she was a new york senator and then the video goes viral and everyone made fun of her and laughed.
Starting point is 00:17:06 And then she was like, how did I lose? It's humorous and elitist thinking that they're above everyone else and therefore they could get away with it. This is why the Pope, Trudeau, Macron, Biden, Kamala, all the world leaders have been saying the same thing. We need a great reset. We need to build back better. They slowly and calmly tell you that this is their plan openly, and you're deemed a conspiracy theorist for even bringing it up and talking about it when their plans are laid out and they're implementing it right in front of our eyes. There's no hiding it. It's right here.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Yeah, what they mean is we need to solidify our power. Exactly. That's what they mean. I want to give them some credit. There's so little self-awareness in our culture these days. Calling themselves the elite, I'm very impressed by that. That is cool. Someone referred to them as elitist.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Was that you? I wasn't there, but they were like, based, Tim, calling them elitist and not elite. But I wasn't there if you said that. The video is actually really funny when this woman – where was she at the World Economic Forum? And she's like the elites. She's like referring to herself in that way and it's just like there's one way not to endure yourself regular people she opened up her blouse there was an e on there it's like it's like a globo gym from uh dodgeball we're better
Starting point is 00:18:17 than you and we know it i saw a tweet from clint russell liberty lockdown liberty lockpot if you'd stop referring yourself as our elites i'd hate you at least 10% less. That's right. And I was like, how bad could it be? It was worse than I thought it was going to be. You know, it's funny, though. I feel like it's the children of the previous generation's elites. And they say that wealth only lasts a few generations.
Starting point is 00:18:38 So you end up with these like the robber barons and stuff. And then over time, they have kids who have kids. And now we have this global elite that are kind of like the inbred royalty who don't really know how to run a system. Yeah. So they've inherited all of this. They never earned it. They never fought for it. And it's like they're going through their own fourth turning where the great grandchildren
Starting point is 00:18:58 of these past billionaires and millionaires and powerful royals and politicos have no idea what they're doing but they just know they're better than you. Wow. I think we have to really realize that nobody really knows what they're doing. I went to prep school with a lot of really smart people who have no idea what they're doing and they're running the country now.
Starting point is 00:19:19 What's the point of being here anyway, being a human? I still don't know. That was a huge leap. It's like there's problems with our country. Why am I alive? I know survival is part of it, but other than that, what's the point? I mean, this is why a lot of people say that religion is very necessary to a culture, to a society, because there are a lot of people right now that have no purpose,
Starting point is 00:19:41 and they're asking the same question you are, but they're being given answers by the elites who want to control and shape everything. And so they're telling them things. They're telling them crazy things. And then when these people go out and riot and burn things down, they're protected. So they found their meaning. They found their purpose. But you know what? The crazy thing about it, they have their purported purpose. With these Black Lives Matter groups or Antifa, we got to fight against oppression. And it's like, have you ever actually sat down and ask yourself, what's next? What's after that? What do you do?
Starting point is 00:20:09 It's like these individuals are just lost, a lost generation. And that's where the chaos is coming from. But it's being weaponized by the elites who want to dramatically reshape the planet. I'm concerned about the kids wearing masks, talking about a lost generation, because if I'd been raised not seeing facial expression, that would have been a hard thing to navigate. I know. And you're bad enough. I know. I'm already semi-weird. But Ian, the elites want to party in a way where their
Starting point is 00:20:31 servants are clearly marked and masked and represented by, of course, the face diapers that they wear, while, of course, the ruling elites get to have their galas and their lovely red carpets where they get to be free and not have to wear face diapers. Well, Christian and I were just talking about this because both of us have, you know, send our kids to school and the kids are fully masked. And outdoors too. I have to actually tell my kid I do this waving of the face as soon as I see him.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Take the mask off. Me too. Adam Carolla has a theory about this. He says it's crate training. You're crate training the young kids to kind of obey. And I'm not going to screw with that. Give me something else
Starting point is 00:21:07 because it's not science. When we get to school in the morning, you know, I say to my son like, you know, you got to put your thing and he's like,
Starting point is 00:21:14 okay, time for my complicity covering. You know, we joke about it because I want him to know that it's stupid the whole time. I want him to fully be aware
Starting point is 00:21:23 of how stupid it is every second that he's wearing it. And yeah, as soon as he's done with school, I'm like, get that stupid thing off your face. A couple days ago, I posted a meme of students that were told to be six feet apart. There was a police officer looking over them. They were outside with a mask.
Starting point is 00:21:38 And then the tagline was like, this is how you make someone a slave. This is how you raise someone not to think independently, how to literally act like they're in prisons. that's what they're doing in schools i would absolutely recommend for you guys to try to do anything you can i mean both of you guys are in new york city you guys are i'm in denver but same denver but but there's probably other families that feel like you that would want to create a homeschooling pod network that would actually help your kids so much more because i feel so bad for these these kids i have to go but you know you know what
Starting point is 00:22:08 really bothers me is how you know we used to see people from southeast asia they wear masks masks when they're sick and i'm like i like that idea like if you're sick and you know it and you're and you have to go out and do stuff like you wear a mask now what the problem i see is people aren't sick but they're they're all just blindly doing this thing and then what that creates is it polarizes we have a hyper polarization now where there are people who are overtly anti-mask and i'm just like yo man like if you get sick you put a mask on if you're not sick and you know you don't i guess because but we're struggling to have the nuanced conversations about what makes sense.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Anybody who questions the mandate, for instance, on vaccines is anti-vaxxer. When clearly everybody is pro-vaccine, except for – there's many people who aren't. But there are people who have specific questions about something specific. The nuance is stripped out of it, and I think it's on purpose. Oh, yeah. They want to make you an extremist. You say, hey, this policy for kids is dumb. Well, then you're a dumb, redneck anti-masker. But here's the thing about making you an extremist. You say, hey, this policy for kids is dumb. Well, then you're a dumb, redneck anti-master. But here's the thing about making you an extremist, right?
Starting point is 00:23:08 I mean, you have the Biden administration going after domestic terrorists, right? They made this their, like, a big Department of Justice thing. And when you look at what they're going after, they're saying that if you are anti-government or anti-authority, then you are some sort of extremist. These are the terms that are being used, anti-government, anti-authority, extremist. I saw a bunch of things that were like white supremacist, anti-government extremist.
Starting point is 00:23:37 And it's like, what is this about? Okay, so white supremacy, that's bad. Sure, obviously. Anti-government? So if you're opposed to the existing power structure, So white supremacy, that's bad. Sure. Obviously. Anti-government. So if you're opposed to the existing power structure, that makes you some sort of extremist. Remember Resist, which erupted in 2017? It was pretty cool and pretty mainstream.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Yeah. You had to resist everything the man said for four years. And you weren't supposed to look into the policies. You weren't supposed to understand what was being proposed. He was in the government. Yes, and you were just supposed to be entirely opposed. Do you guys see that story about the guy who needed a kidney? Because he didn't get vaxxed that they told him like
Starting point is 00:24:16 guess you'll die. That was the craziest thing. You know, I was just like this, the lady on the phone, pure evil, like evil incarnate. You thought it was going to be like a giant demonic man with horns and a business suit being like, I am the Antichrist. No, it's the lady at the hospital who's like, I know you need a heart, but for reasons we don't care why, you know, you decided not to get the vaccine.
Starting point is 00:24:39 So you'll die now. It's like, you're crazy. Or that lady in Texas who the guy was recording saying, you don't qualify to take this vaccine. Sorry, sorry, not this vaccine. You don't qualify for this antibody treatment because of the race, ethnicity. And then the media claimed it wasn't true. They were like, no one's being denied monoclonal antibodies based on race. That's true in like half a dozen states.
Starting point is 00:25:00 And it was part of the FDA directive, I believe. One thing I loved was Maude Marin in New York. She was running for city council, but she recently posted on Twitter. She was having some design work done in her house. And an architect showed up to her house and asked her to wear a mask. And Maude said, no, and you're fired. Get out of my house. We're done here.
Starting point is 00:25:24 You know, I wouldn't want that person working on my house either. People have lost it, man. You brought up that Department of Justice statement. I saw James Lindsay and Joe Rogan talking about it. It was kind of convoluted in like two paragraphs. Have you seen that, Tim? Do you know what she's talking about? The Department of Justice?
Starting point is 00:25:39 Let me pull it up because I know I – What was that pertaining to? It's like a statement defining who now is considered dangerous. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they said like anti-capitalists and then yeah i think glenn greenwald tweeted out because it's actually a while ago yeah yeah and so they were like hey left you've all cheered for this and celebrated it's you and then they posted the list and it was like anarchist and anti-capitalistic you know are considered violent dangerous extremists and then there's like patriots or whatever so it it's like, yo, look, man,
Starting point is 00:26:06 they may like the fact that they can use Antifa as useful idiots to wreak havoc and cause panic and destroy things and they can rebuild. But rest assured, they will come for Antifa when it becomes convenient for them or when Antifa is truly inconvenient. Or when they're done with them, when they fulfill their agenda,
Starting point is 00:26:23 when they got rid of everything else, they're going to be looking like the nail for the hammer that they created. It's only a matter of time and the deep intelligence state has the information, is track tracing literally gets all the information from people's phones at protests. They have all of their data. They have all of their information. They have all of their networks. And why wouldn't they be collecting it when, of course, you have the state that throughout history has been a really bad thing? Yeah, so it was a testimony before the Senate, and it was, I think, Matthew Olson, who is the assistant attorney general, perhaps. He said domestic violent extremists are often motivated by ideology and personal grievances.
Starting point is 00:27:13 We've seen a growing threat from those who are motivated by racial animus, as well as those who ascribe to anti-government, anti-authority ideologies. Anti-authority. Anti-authority, which is kind of the basis for the entire United States. That's right. We are anti-authority. That's like half our deal, at least. We're the Ghostbusters anti-authority, too. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:27:34 But is Antifa pro-authority? I mean, I would say yes. But do they think they are? So are they listening to that going like, hey, we're cool? He also said, today, investigating and prosecuting domestic violent extremists is one of our top priorities on the front lines. This is only because there aren't enough white nationalists and white supremacists. They have to cast them out of the way. They've got a short supply, it's happening.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Yeah, it has to be everything. It has to be whatever they can find. They have a budget for arresting dissent that are going to need to be sent. That's right. They've got to beat the budget. At some point in there, they said, like, if you want to criticize the government, it may not be considered terrorism because it's considered First Amendment protection. The word may. It may not be considered terrorism. That's nice.
Starting point is 00:28:15 That was very confusing. My friends, in 20 years, everyone's going to be, like, four and a half feet tall, androgynous, holding hands with squeaky voices. And that's going to be humanity because, like like they're just shaving off the tall grass everyone it's like it's eroding so quickly you know the people don't realize this but there's been several cases that i've tweeted about talked about where people have been charged with hate crimes for speech or for like bordering on speech you know there was a one case where someone took a pride flag and then I guess they like burned it and threw it in front of a gay bar that said, oh, that was that was hateful harassment or something like that.
Starting point is 00:28:50 And it's like nobody was no one was there. No one watched it happen. Nobody was directly harmed by it. It's kind of a dick move, in my opinion. The guy got charged with a hate crime for doing it. I mean, that's kind of crazy. You know what I mean? But that's that's where we're moving and we're getting – there was two people – what were they on?
Starting point is 00:29:07 Like the New York train, the Long Island Railroad? And they were shouting things about foreigners and then threw a beer can at someone. And they went, aha, throwing that beer can and saying that. Now it's a hate crime and like you get a very serious charge for that. So they're starting to incorporate hate speech into making it illegal. And a lot of people 10 years ago were saying that the goal of the left is to make it so you can't – hate speech would be completely illegal. There are many proponents who have pushed saying that it should be illegal. And now we're seeing aggravated charges on people for speaking things that are offensive.
Starting point is 00:29:36 It has to be associated with a crime though in the U.S. whereas in other countries like in Canada – What was the crime of throwing a rainbow flag in front of a bar? Well, they have to call it a crime of some sort. Right, but like... Arson? Burning property? But it was their property. It was someone bought a flag,
Starting point is 00:29:51 burned it in front of a building and they said it was like harassment. So they make up the crime to fit how they can turn it into hate speech or something. And what's happening in Canada and the UK already with these existing laws
Starting point is 00:30:01 is so worrying. I remember walking around in the United Kingdom doing interviews about English people not having the First Amendment. Would they want the First Amendment? And I ran into a person who had his whole life ruined, was thrown in jail, had to face court proceedings
Starting point is 00:30:17 because he called someone a bloke. And this person that he called a bloke was someone that identified as something else. But because he did it offhandedly, he literally was sent to jail. Shout out to Zuby. That's happened to a bunch of people. Shout out to Zuby who said, okay, dude. It was okay, dude.
Starting point is 00:30:33 That's what he said. And he got suspended on Twitter for saying it. Or Megan Murphy who said that Jessica Yaniv was him. I think she got banned for saying, yeah, him. That was her whole tweet. Shout out to Zuby for getting his visa, American visa. He's going to be around a lot more now. Nice job, dude.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Sorry to derail the conversation. I missed the ACLU 1.0. That's what we need. What happened? Did you change your leadership? I can tell you what happened. When Donald Trump got elected, they made a ton of money off of the Muslim ban, as it was called. Now, it included Venezuela and some other countries, but the left called the Muslim ban.
Starting point is 00:31:16 And the ACLU said, Trump, you can't do this. It's unconstitutional. The interesting thing was that the banning of travel from these countries actually advised from the Obama administration, but that doesn't matter. So everybody protests. The ACLU announces they're filing a lawsuit to stop this and then all the leftists are like yeah and they sign up for the aclu and the aclu is like we're making bank baby and then charlottesville happened and the aclu defended the right of unite the right to organize and the and then everyone said you made this happen you defended it and they're like but we've always defended free speech for everyone.
Starting point is 00:31:46 And the left started canceling in droves. So they came out and said, we're going to reassess what free speech means. And now the ACLU is the anti-civil liberties union because in many, many cases, they have come out overtly against civil rights. And I'm not exaggerating. They sure have, over and over again. It's crazy. I was tracking that. And money talks, baby. There was some sort of transparency educational policy that was discussed. Oh, this is a great idea. rights and i'm not i'm not exaggerating over and over again crazy yeah i was talking about baby
Starting point is 00:32:05 there was some sort of transparency educational policy that was discussed this is a great idea this transparency right and they're against it yeah but here's the thing about this so education is now a national issue that's what the left wanted this whole time they got it parents are super involved in kids educations that's what the left has wanted this whole time. Parents are saying, let's have transparency. Let's see what the syllabus is. That's all it is. Let's see what the syllabus is before the year starts.
Starting point is 00:32:33 That way, we know what's going on. That way, we can help our kids. We can know what's happening in their classroom. We can know what they're learning. And for some reason, the teachers' unions are all against this. They've been demanding for decades, parents, we need more parental involvement. And now parents are like, hi, we're here.
Starting point is 00:32:48 We'd really like to be involved. And they're all just like, you know what? You know, back off. Okay, that's just not safe for your kids. It's just not okay. Parents do not have a right to be involved. And we all know why.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Leftists don't have kids. They have yours. Right. Like the, what is it? Melissa Harris Perry. Did you guys see that? That was an older clip that resurfaced i think i'm not sure it was chilling it's crazy she was saying basically the kids are
Starting point is 00:33:10 not yours well what's the exact saying kids are not yours they belong to all of us and we need to stop thinking that kids belong to their parents you ever see that communist you know who kids belong to their parents especially when they get hurt or any decisions need to be made but as soon as they need to be indoctrinated, then they belong to everybody. Have you ever seen that meme where it's like, it's the Drake meme where it's my and our. And so it shows him going like that. And it'll say, you know, my car. And then under it says our car.
Starting point is 00:33:35 And he's like, yeah. So it's like, my kids. No, our kids. All right. Takes a village. I love my favorite one was our little pony. And like they put a sickle and hammer next to it and everything. Yo, these people – I don't know if communist is the right word.
Starting point is 00:33:49 No, it's not. Because, look, what people need to understand about fascism and communism is that these were ideologies of the early 1900s. We're in a new digital information age, and what we're experiencing is something different. Maybe you can call it techno-communism or techno-authoritarianism or something, but it needs a new word. Yeah. This is another thing James and Joe were talking about, and I promise I'm not going to keep bringing it up, but watch that episode if you haven't seen it yet.
Starting point is 00:34:15 It's a great episode, yeah. About, geez, I just got distracted. Techno-authoritarianism? Yeah, about how it's like fascism and communism blended, and it's 21st century. It's new. What Klaus Schwab's trying to do with blending corporations and governments together is basically the definition of Mussolini's fascism. That's what he called it. But it's so different now that they can spy on everything and like cut off bank accounts globally that it's another kind of techno.
Starting point is 00:34:41 It's not necessarily communism. It's not necessarily fascism it is authoritarian but the thing about fascism is that it was cultural enforcement communism was just they just took over and they'd point guns at you it was much more authoritarian and they would steal food and it was just like it was like the whole system was one thing. With fascism, basically, I was reading this article about how the Nazis weren't really socialists, but kind of were, because people often say,
Starting point is 00:35:10 oh, it means national socialist. What would happen is that they would go to a factory and say, are you producing for the war effort? And if the guy at the factory said, no, we're producing for demand, they'd be like, why do you oppose our efforts?
Starting point is 00:35:24 And they'd be like, no, no, no, we'll do it. Basically cancel culture. The idea that if you didn't fall in line with cultural enforcement, and cultural enforcement is more powerful than government. So that's the thing about the fascistic method. Now, I guess back then there was a big dividing ideology. The communists wanted to erase culture.
Starting point is 00:35:42 They wanted to purge it and wipe it clean. And the fascists want traditionalism. So what we're seeing today is technothoritaria communism or whatever you'd call it. I don't know. It all boils down to the evils of centralization and the idea that you could control people from top down. That idea, I think, is one of the most destructive ideas throughout all of human history. And whatever you label it, whatever you call it, it goes against the basic principles of free humanity. And that, of course, is liberty and decentralization. Decentralization right now, if you look at a lot of problems in this world,
Starting point is 00:36:13 could solve all of them in an extensive way that would reduce a lot of harm and help a lot of people out because it would stop the bastardization of power that absolutely corrupts individuals. So I think that's one way that we should start framing it and looking at it because, you know, to have this larger idea that one person, one king should control your life and your existence has already fallen by the wayside. Now, another idea that hopefully progressively is going to be destroyed is that a president or an autocrat or a corporate head is going to be controlling your life. And I think the more we move away from those ideas, the more we move towards freedom, the more humans will prosper and grow.
Starting point is 00:36:56 I got it. Hear me out. What if you run for president and when you win, you get four years. You can run again for a second term. And if you lose or you complete a second term, we execute you. Oh. Interesting. So then anybody – It's like Logan's run secret.
Starting point is 00:37:18 But that means anybody who wants to be president knows that they're not going to actually be benefited in the long term. This is the end. You've decided – because then you get someone who's in their 60s and they're not going to actually be benefited in the long term. This is the end. You've decided – because then you get someone who's in their 60s and they're like, I've lived a long life. I have some ideas and I think this is the end for me. I'm going to do a bunch of things that I think will make everything better for you and then I'm out. This is like a Star Trek episode. I'm actually kidding. I don't really think we should execute people.
Starting point is 00:37:38 It's like a Star Trek episode where the guy who played Winchester on M.A up falling in love with Deanna Troy's mom. Do you remember that one? That's right. And then it's a society where at a certain age, they just kill you. They just kill you. They have a big party. Or just take all their money away. When you get out of the White House, you're broke.
Starting point is 00:37:55 You're broke again. You can't make any money. Maybe what we do is as soon as you leave any public office, we'll do term limits. So every office will have a year base. So in Congress, it's two years. So, okay, we'll do term limits. So every office will have like a year base. So like in Congress, it's two years. So okay, you can run four times. The Senate, you can run twice. It's still kind of long. You'll get 12 years. And then the presidency is two. And once you're done, you lose all your possessions, you get a white jumpsuit, and you go to the island. And then you just live in a community of people who are past civic leaders, and you can never
Starting point is 00:38:23 leave, and you've chosen it. The problem with having four two-year term limits is that they'll spend every year running for the next term and waste all that time right no but if you lose you go to the island and on that island jimmy carter builds all the houses that's right no no so listen if you if you run for congress and win you're in for two years and then you're like i'm gonna run again and then you lose to the island but i mean i don't want them to spend any win, you're in for two years, and then you're like, I'm going to run again. And then you lose to the island. But, I mean, I don't want them to spend any time while they're in office worrying about a reelection. I want them to be in, run their term, and then be gone. So two terms.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Like one eight-year term? Is that too much years to give somebody? Oh, that's a good point. That's a good amount, eight years. One four-year term. Or maybe two four-year terms, one reelection. But they'll spend two years prepping their re-election. No, but Congress is two years.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Congress is two years, yeah. So giving Congress four years and two terms, and then once you're done, the island. You know what I want to point out about... And there's internet there, so you can play Fortnite and the kids can talk about... Another possibility is to elect our pets to be politicians. Yes. And I bet they would probably do a better job than all the politicians right now. I think Caligula did that with his horse, didn't he?
Starting point is 00:39:24 Yes, there you go. Caligula, one of the crazy Roman emperors, inbred young gentleman, made his horse a counselor, I believe. And there's a small town, I believe, in Alaska that elected a cat to be their mayor. Oh, really? Yeah. I was thinking about how the Nazis would go to these corporations and be like, are you with us? And then they're like, no. And then they're like, then you're against us.
Starting point is 00:39:41 There's the nuance in society, I think, that's been lost or overlooked lately that you don't have to be for or against something. You can be neutral. And that's usually you are. 99.999% of the time, people are neutral to the environment. You don't have to take a side and live like that. Make sure you live like that. Don't need to polarize. So I tweeted a joke about capitalism today.
Starting point is 00:40:02 I said capitalism was too successful. We have fat homeless people. Oh, no. So there's several different layers to this joke. And I felt like it would play well with everyone. For people who are pro-capitalist, they'd be like, wow, even our homeless people are eating too much.
Starting point is 00:40:17 For the communists and the left, they're supposed to be like, people who eat too much still don't have homes. Like it's supposed to play both ways, but it's only the left who gets mad about it. The right just laughs and they're like, whatever. And the left is like offended. And I tweeted, it's what I call bugs bunnying,
Starting point is 00:40:34 where you can make a statement that should be something they'll support, but they'll criticize. So you can prove that they're principally bankrupt. They don't actually believe what they believe. They don't actually care about these things. They just want to hate another group. And I think that proves it.
Starting point is 00:40:48 I've made several statements. You know, like I think the Carhartt one, when the Carhartt boycott happened, I said, here's something. If you don't want to get vaccinated, you work at Carhartt, quit. And I got criticized by the left for saying that. And I'm like, shouldn't you agree with me on that?
Starting point is 00:41:03 And actually a lot of people tweeted, they were like, but you know but why are you criticizing him? He's right. Just quit then if you don't want to work there. Yeah, well, it's because it's not about principles. It's about being part of a tribe that hates another tribe. Their identity is based on hate. That's it.
Starting point is 00:41:16 And there's people on the right who are like that for sure. But it seems to be the rule on the left. Well, you're in like you said Twitter I think the other day. Two percent of Americans are on Twitter. Are active on Twitter. And you're in, like you said, Twitter, I think, the other day. 2% of Americans are on Twitter. Are active on Twitter. And you're in it. So you're looking at these crazy, crazy minority, and it's loud. It's got to be loud for you.
Starting point is 00:41:33 And what the algorithms want you to see. Someone left a very good comment saying that the politicians usually do go to an island after they become a politician. And that, of course, is Epstein's island. So shouts out to the person who made that comment. Let me pull up this story here we got from the Post Millennial.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Oh, my. Joe Rogan and James Lindsay point out how the left smears everyone they disagree with as alt-right. On the latest episode of the podcast, Joe Rogan spoke with James Lindsay about why so many people are deemed alt-right by the left. And the story's about me. So special thanks to James and Joe, because I don't even think they were necessarily defending me, just pointing out facts, just denying this. What happened was this guy, Josh Zeps, who is a statist propagandist in Australia,
Starting point is 00:42:18 who really doesn't like me because I've criticized their country, and he makes things up, and boy, is he triggered by me. He said, you know oh tim pool says these things and blah blah blah and then a few seconds later goes so these alt-right guys who are you know saying this stuff and then joe cuts him off and he's like tim pool's not all right you can't just say that man that's not true and he's like well i didn't mean i mean and then he says i don't think magic noize is all right i know him but tim pool so joe rogan's talking to james and they end up bringing me up specifically.
Starting point is 00:42:45 And Joe's like, I know Tim very well. He's like a centrist. He was a boots on the ground guy for vice. And then James like, yeah, he was an occupy. So this is what I think is it shows the lies. It's obvious they're lying. The most one of the most powerful media shows in the world. Joe Rogan's show is outright just with no remorse calling out the
Starting point is 00:43:08 lies. I think this is a good example of the narrative is breaking before our eyes. I know there's a lot of reasons why we said the narrative is breaking, but here's another really good one. It involves me, so obviously I wanted to highlight it and say thank you to Joe for just being honest and talking about my views and everything. But who's going to believe this anymore? Well, I was thinking maybe this is alt-right in the sense that it's alternative to the polarized right. It's more of a center. Alt-right means white nationalists.
Starting point is 00:43:35 That's the problem with the phrase. It shouldn't mean that it's further right than people on the right. It's just an alternative to weird, polarized politics. That's literally not the case. It just crossed my mind a couple weeks ago. The Associated Press put out a statement years ago saying the alt-right group that coined the term specifically referenced white nationalist ideology.
Starting point is 00:43:57 That's where the term came from. That's what it represents. That's why the left will try to passively smear everyone as alt-right so they can then add to your Wikipedia page something like Ian's been called alt-right. Then another outlet will say many news organizations have noted that Ian, who's considered alt-right, and then eventually they can just say Ian is alt-right. Then they can then say Ian is a white nationalist and put on your Wikipedia page.
Starting point is 00:44:20 That's the game they play. It's not working anymore. It's falling apart because people are getting sick and tired of it, and they're not scared to call out the bunk media. And you know what it is? As the media ratings collapse, people are getting less scared of being smeared because they're irrelevant. But it's also a way to shut you up. They can't engage you with your ideas. So like someone said, I don't want open borders. Well, then you're racist because you don't like Mexican people. But no, because there's a reason why I don't think this is effective.
Starting point is 00:44:48 It's racist, sexist. It's all the things. It's to shut us up because they don't want to have this debate. And people on the left, they're not good at debating because they don't get those other ideas coming at them. If you're on the right, you get all the ideas. You watch Colbert. You watch the culture. You read the news.
Starting point is 00:45:12 You're experiencing, even by default, all these different concepts, and you're able to kind of work with them, talk about them, debate them. But if you're on the left, you're in this bubble area, and you can't debate, so you have to smear. Well, shout out to Hunter Avalone for having come on this show a while back because he made – I respect him for coming on the show and he was having, you know, traditional liberal views, but man, don't, don't come on a show unprepared and be arrogant about it. And that's what I would say. So, you know, the issue with him was he brought up Hunter, he brought up Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, Ukraine Burisma, and he didn't know anything about it. So when I said Joe Biden did engage in a quid pro quo, a corruption in Ukraine to empower his son and make money for his family, and Hunter was like, that's not true. I was like, bro, I can name every person. I've read the reports. I've read Ukrainian news.
Starting point is 00:45:54 I've read Russian news. I've read Matt Taibbi's reporting. I have dug through that to a great deal. And I asked him, do you know the name of the guy who started Burisma? And he was like, no. And I'm like, okay, look, with all due respect, why would you step up and claim you know something? And then when I ask you a simple question, you stop right there and say, I don't know anything about it. It's a weird arrogance that exists.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Joe Biden bragged about it. He bragged about the quid pro quo. They don't know any of this because they don't actually have these debates. So when someone comes into a debate and their first experience with this is, ah, I remember what Hassan said. He said it's not true. And then I'm like, I actually can pull up all of the facts and show you. Do you want to see the Ukrainian news outlets talking about this guy fleeing the country? No, they don't read the news.
Starting point is 00:46:34 They don't. They listen to each other, and they have a big circle of people who are jerks. We're trying to keep it family friendly. I respect that. They're very happy in that circle, but they're also completely out of touch. They're on that island. To the outside. Yeah, that's probably what happens on that island,
Starting point is 00:46:51 to be completely honest with you. But Joe Biden bragged about that. I mean, can we not forget that? It's amazing that Joe Biden... He was like thrilled about it. He's like, I did it. I had a quid pro quo. And the media's like, no, he didn't.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Right. You've got to be a special kind of either stupid or or deceptive to be going online claiming it never happened when we all watched the video of joe biden doing it and joe biden's so dumb he bragged about it i think the scariest thing for me about media bias today is that we can see things or hear things in their context and the media will say no it didn't happen that scares me to death it really scares me well it used to scare me now i just laugh about it but like i believe it though that's the thing that really upsets me but their ratings are in the gutter so i know
Starting point is 00:47:35 their ratings are still high colbert gets like three million viewers or whatever i just really loved when joe biden was doing the press conference and they were like you know if you don't pass these voter reform bills what do you you think is going to happen? Joe's like, well, it's a very good chance it could be illegitimate. And then Jen Psaki comes out the next day. No, actually, he didn't say that. What he said was Trump is the problem. It reminds me of when the episode of Family Guy where Lois Griffin is running for office and she gets up to the podium and she goes, 9-11.
Starting point is 00:48:03 And they go, yeah, clapping and cheering. And then they're like, how would you deal with the podium and she goes, 9-11. And they go, yeah! They start clapping and cheering. And then they're like, how would you deal with the economy? She goes, 9-11. Yeah! And they start clapping and cheering. She stole that from Rudy Giuliani. That's not fair. And I'm reminded of the Orwell quote that we talked about on the show previously before
Starting point is 00:48:21 that says, quote, the party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. And there's a lot of truth to that, especially when you see them call out stuff that clearly does happen, that clearly is a reality. And I'm saying, no, no, no, this never happened. Don't look at the evidence. Don't question it. If you do, you're a bad person.
Starting point is 00:48:40 You're part of the alt-right. You're, you know, a homophobic. That means you're a homophobic, racist, destructive person. Also, if it does turn out that the GOP takes a lot of extra seats or whatever in the 2022, in the midterms, and the Democrats then start saying
Starting point is 00:48:55 that the election was illegitimate, we're going to be able to look back on this moment and be like, you said it wouldn't be. Now what are you talking about? It's just such a little trap for them. I want to give a special shout out to the disinformation cycle. It starts with the New York Times reporting that Ukrainians were interfering in the U.S. election to benefit Hillary Clinton. It was actually, let me be very careful and precise, it was Politico that reported this.
Starting point is 00:49:21 It was the New York Times that also reported that a Ukrainian court had found that certain interests in Ukraine, certain individuals were engaged in this behavior. And then it comes to Ted Cruz, who appears on Meet the Press, and he's asked by, who's the guy on Meet the Press? What's his face? The guy. Chuck Todd? Is it Chuck Todd?
Starting point is 00:49:39 Yeah, I think so. Is it Chuck Todd? I don't know. He's asked, do you really believe that Ukraine interfered in the election? And Ted Cruz is like, Politico and the New York Times reported they did. And then you hear one of the producers at MSNBC start laughing or NBC just start laughing. And then I'm just like, Ted Cruz cited mainstream news and they laugh at him like he's wrong because they don't read the news. Then our good friend David Pakman does a segment about it where he's like, I can't believe how dumb Ted Cruz is.
Starting point is 00:50:02 There's a laughing at him. And I'm like, David, did you Google the stories? They're real, but they don't read the news. So they're like, those of us that read the news, like on this show, we have an eclectic bunch of people of varying political beliefs and we read the news. So we kind of agree on what some of the basic facts are like many of them. And then we disagree on policy positions, but that's just, it's right wing. It's just shuffle everyone into the alt-right bucket if you read the news. Well, we read the same news. That's the problem is there's lots of news out there that I don't read that never comes
Starting point is 00:50:31 up on this show or is even orbited on this show because it's just, it seems fake. It seems like media narrative. No, no, no. I don't know. I read like, I read, not yesterday morning because I had food poisoning, but most mornings I read all the, I read at least the headlines of pretty much everything. What's your process like? Real quick.
Starting point is 00:50:50 I can tell you. Just put it in real quick because I want to mention. We've cited NPR. We've cited NJ.com. We've cited – so we've hinted at Mother Jones. We've hinted at Reuters. Yo, we use establishment press on this show. We just fact-checked these stories.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Like the other day, I specifically pointed out that I used NPR on purpose for one source. I use CNN on purpose. If I can fact-check what CNN says and find it to be true, I'll use them as a source to say, okay, not telling me CNN's wrong. This is one of the funniest things. I was accused of peddling misinformation about the election because I quoted CNN. That's the point. So I can be like, wow, CNN's fake news, I guess. But anyway, sorry. No, no. I check everything in the morning. I check Fox. I check NPR. I check the New York Times and Washington Post. I check Daily Wire. I check through everything. We ran overnight at the Post Millennial that I didn't see. Do you go website to website or do you
Starting point is 00:51:42 look at the report on Twitter? Honestly, I have it on my phone. Oh, cool. I just check everything. I always check Reuters. My reporting on Ukraine and everything I read, Politico reported that Ukrainians did interfere in the election and the New York Times ruled a court in Ukraine had found that to be true as well.
Starting point is 00:52:03 That's the New York Times and Politico. I'm not cherry-picking my news sources. I actually look for counterpoints. There aren't any. So I went to Ukraine and I hit up a source I had in Ukraine and said, can you investigate this from local news sources? And then when I reported on it, I said, I don't know the credibility of these outlets. It's a local Ukrainian outlet I'm not familiar with, but this is what they reported. It backs up what these national outlets, Politico and The New York Times, have said. So for me, for everybody here, I think the issue for us is that we actually fact-check the stories so we have an understanding of reality. But when Chuck Todd on Meet the Press laughs at Ted Cruz or his producers do because Ted Cruz cited The New York Times, that's a special level of stupid coming out of NBC.
Starting point is 00:52:47 It's interesting. And very on brand. So think that a corporation would feed you a little bit of falsity, get you to believe it, and then ridicule you for believing it. Well, there's been a lot of crazy news stories of them just absolutely inverting reality to what is just totally the complete opposite. Two seconds to pull that up. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:53:05 And it's not that hard to fact check. It's not that hard to look at sources. It's not that hard to get a different side of the story. It's becoming more and more difficult, especially when it comes to using Google. And I think they're catching on to that. But we have an opportunity in our life where we have this small window that's closing where we could look up anything at any moment and find out exactly what we want about it.
Starting point is 00:53:28 That window, I believe, is closing. It's still here. We should still use it as much as we can. Two seconds. I can pull up these stories from Political New York Times. Mainstream establishment outlets talking about this very fact that NBC, their talking heads, make fun of Ted Cruz for. There's a lot of things you can make fun of Ted Cruz for. like don't get me wrong but he wasn't wrong on the facts so when pundits like david
Starting point is 00:53:49 packman go on his show and he laughs at ted cruz for being right i'm just like i i messaged david and i was like hey like here's the link to the stories bro like you said to google it i don't understand why you're laughing at ted cruz or mocking him for there's something about this story this uh biden uk Ukrainian scandal, that's a little vague, that makes me tired whenever it comes up. I feel like it requires more glucose to process the information for some reason. I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:54:13 I know what you mean. It does kind of feel that way. It's layered. It's complicated. It's not a... Certain stories are just like a punch to the face. This one, it's more... You gotta dig in. To explain this story to my friend's dad, I was like, have a seat, sir. List of characters. Because what happens is you can start slow and let them ask you questions.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Like a video emerged of Joe Biden bragging about engaging in a quid pro quo where he would withhold a billion dollars in U.S. aid to Ukraine unless they fired a prosecutor. That's extortion, right? Well, you can call it whatever you want. It's illegal. Joe Biden doesn't have the authority to stop something that was passed by Congress. It's not extortion if the president does it, right? He wasn't president at the time. This was back when he was vice president. He was vice president. And the vice president
Starting point is 00:54:55 and president can't go and say, I am going to personally halt an act of Congress. So they accused Trump of doing that, when in fact Joe Biden literally did it. And we know he did it. And he bragged about it. And then the media comes on and fact, Joe Biden literally did it. And we know he did it and he bragged about it. And then the media comes on and says, Joe Biden never did that. And he wanted the prosecutor fired because the prosecutor was investigating Burisma, where his son was a chair, was like a, you know, on the board there.
Starting point is 00:55:17 And Victor Shokin, the prosecutor in Ukraine who got fired, signed a sworn affidavit saying, the president came to me and said, Joe Biden wants you fired because you're investigating Burisma. Matt Taibbi reported this. And he reported there were a dozen plus investigations from the prosecutor into Burisma every step of the way. There have been sycophantic establishment journalists who have been like, well, Burisma wasn't even under investigation.
Starting point is 00:55:41 And then journalists are like, here's the investigations. Well, but those were not about uh what were they investigating them for so my close my kola zlachevsky is just uh the general surface answer is corruption kickbacks forged documents just you name it when it comes to trying to steamroll things through i don't i i my personal view of this after everything i've read walking the the story back to explain to my friend's dad, it's the Qatar-Turkey pipeline. It's trying to get natural gas into Europe, trying to compete with Russia on the Gazprom natural gas monopoly. It's around 20% that goes into Europe, comes from Gazprom through Ukraine. So U.S. interests, NATO, Western allies wanted to get an alternative source of fuel to lower the prices.
Starting point is 00:56:22 They needed a means to do it, so they prop up this company. They have a guy who engages in a little behind the scenes to make it work faster. There's like a CIA director who's on the board along with Hunter Biden, who has no business being on the board. And in the era of the internet, we can learn these things. They got really mad it was happening. Joe Biden's a moron and bragged about it. And all of a sudden, it looks like you can see at least the surface of what they were trying to do with Syria, with Turkey, with Iraq, with Iran, with Ukraine, what they're still trying to do with Ukraine. Trump really messed all those plans up because Trump, I just think, didn't care about their plans, saw the video of Joe Biden engaging in what appeared to be illegal activity and
Starting point is 00:56:58 is illegal activity, and then called the president of Ukraine and said, I saw this video. This is literally what happened. He's like, I saw this video of Joe Biden saying he's going to do this. Can you look into that for me? And then they were like, impeach him. We got to impeach him now. And then they handcrafted this insane story about Trump quid pro quo, which was actually Joe Biden. Here's the best part. People on YouTube and Facebook and Twitter who named the CIA guy and don't say his name, please. They got all their content deleted. I had videos deleted for telling the story. I made a post.
Starting point is 00:57:27 You post any of these stories and they would disappear without warning. It was so obvious what they were doing. I figured out why it has been confusing me is because they've been blaming Trump for the same thing that Biden did. Yes. Yes. Exactly. Amazing. Watching it happen, like being in the news.
Starting point is 00:57:44 And it's like Joe Biden walks over and kicks a dog. And then the media goes, breaking news, Trump kicked a dog. And I'm like, but what? He didn't literally kick a dog. And now Biden is definitely going to go to war for Ukraine. That's amazing. Doesn't look like it. It's usually for oil, for a resource if it's a war.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Trump wasn't supposed to win. Trump was not supposed to win. I was in Ukraine at the Maidan protests when all this was erupting, when Yanukovych got ousted, when Ukraine was in that turmoil period. And it was that Western forces – and this is just my opinion as one person who covered a little bit of it, and I'm probably wrong on a lot of this. But my view was obviously the West wanted to get Ukraine under the fold. They want to get cheaper gas into Europe. That was part of the plan. Russia doesn't want that to happen. It's against their interests. Syria is allied with Russia. This whole region is embroiled in this conflict. Trump gets elected. Everything stops Syria. He's trying to withdraw our troops from Syria. They won't let them. They lie about
Starting point is 00:58:41 it. Trump is like, why do I care about Ukraine? Just give them some weapons and be done with it. Biden gets back in and all of a sudden, oh, no. It's like the amazing thing is after Trump got elected, the whole Ukraine civil war narrative stops and just like goes off the news cycle. Biden gets back in and here we are, Ukrainian civil war all over again. Yeah, it's back. Amazing. But there are still fighting between in Ukraine, between some Russian forces and the separatists. Yes, but I went there. Well, there was still fighting in Ukraine between some Russian forces and the separatists.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Yes, but I went there. But it was still at a standstill compared to how hot it was comparatively to when John McCain was there. And I went to Ukraine. I think I went there. It may have been just before Trump got elected. And in this period, my sources on the ground, just locals, they're not like experts said, the fighting had mostly subsided and they were no longer, they said, don't call it a civil war. That pisses people off. And I was like, when I was here and when I left, it escalated to the point where the
Starting point is 00:59:32 Eastern separatists, no, no, no, no, no. It's just, it's separatist conflict. And it's like, you know, it's anti-government extremism. Like, oh, okay. And then for years, we barely hear anything about it. Joe Biden gets in and all of a sudden we're being told Russia is about about to invade ukraine okay dude yeah they were going at putin until trump got elected then they were going at trump for being connected to putin then trump left now they're going back at putin this whole boogeyman thing is so annoying well one of the things is you've got
Starting point is 01:00:00 the bureaucratic state the intelligence agencies They have plans that exist well beyond. Yeah, I think they're playing the 100-year game as well as the CCP. I think they're both playing the 100-year game. Trump was not supposed to win. When Trump got in office, all of a sudden their plans were completely disrupted. So anyway, this all started because I obsess over this stuff because this was one of the most egregious things that's ever happened in American history. A president was impeached over a lie to maintain bureaucratic policies that existed before he got an office. And it just shows you that the emperor has no clothes. No one's playing by the
Starting point is 01:00:32 rules anymore. And any semblance of like, like, you know, if you think the president has real power, you need, you underestimate the intelligence agencies and the bureaucratic state. That's what we can see here. That beyond the president, there's a reason why Trump was jammed up the entirety of his first term, because Trump was not supposed to be the guy to win. And he wanted to shore up our borders. He wanted to bring the troops home. He wanted to go America first, build up our factories. And he did not want to play that international game. And they got mad about it. So everything that keeps him of working with Russia, which was a lie. Then they did the impeachment. Then they did the other other impeachment and now they're trying to prosecute him over fraud in new york so he
Starting point is 01:01:07 can't run for office it's crazy i have a different kind of perspective but we don't have to uh dive into all that but did there there was a bull in the china shop aspect to the trump presidency that does deserve to be recognized because i i think even donald trump himself was surprised when he won the election he he looked he looked surprised he looked like he was like wait this is not supposed to happen what's going on here and whether it was underprepared or whether it was people stopping him there was an internal conflict that was clearly visible whether it was him and the cia him saying I'm definitely going to release those JFK files no matter what, the CIA saying no, and those documents never came out. There was something
Starting point is 01:01:51 happening behind the scenes, and there's probably way more things that happened that would shock us if we really knew what was happening behind the true layers of power. So it's interesting. I wish I could talk to Trump. I wish we could ask him more questions. But there's so many different ways that the United States government has run that we still don't fully understand. But the bureaucrats, the supposed deep state, the people that are in there, no matter who the president is, the intelligence agencies, they have a lot more power than we think. You know that Kennedy assassination was like the first example of citizen journalism. Maybe not the first, but on video.
Starting point is 01:02:26 There's some random guy watching the parade and caught that assassination. And all the evidence from all the people like, hey, maybe it isn't what we thought it was, comes from that video of where you see him get hit. Sometimes you just need a little Alex Jones. When he yells that an alien intelligence has taken over and is controlling everybody. You can sit back with a nice fire going on a rainy day and just hear the angry rants of Alex Jones and be like, it actually is kind of relaxing because it makes everything feel like when he yelled and slammed the table
Starting point is 01:02:55 and talked about the alien intelligence taking over, it made me laugh. It kind of like brought levity to the situation. I'm not trying to say it to be mean or like to disrespect Alex or anything like that, but it was like my worldview is corporatist, authoritarian, despotic individuals who lie, cheat, and steal.
Starting point is 01:03:10 And when Alex brings up the aliens, it kind of makes me feel like, you know, maybe there's something more interesting to life and it's fun to hear the fanciful ideas and the crazy. I think for sure that this is part of a process that's greater than we can perceive. The corruption that's bubbling, the humans needing to eat food to survive, so we're constantly aggressing on each other for food.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Bugs. We need bugs to survive. Now, I don't know what Alex was talking about specifically. I don't know if he was talking about UFOs coming from outer space or artificial intelligence. But if he was talking about artificial intelligence, there is an argument to make here that there is a probability that that has happened in some way. I just mean to say that sometimes there's like when we constantly hear about corrupt world leaders and then someone tells you a fancy story. It's kind of, you know, it kind of breaks that. Humor serves a purpose and a culture.
Starting point is 01:03:59 Yeah, you know what I mean? And now it's kind of under attack. Like maybe life is more interesting than just this really awful corruption we experience. It definitely is. And it's what you make it. I was thinking about why it is – I can't remember what show I was watching. I think I was watching the Teen Titans live action show. And I was like, what's with all these superhero movies and shows that become really, really popular?
Starting point is 01:04:20 How was the live action? I only ever watched the cartoon. I don't know. I barely watched. It's on the background, to be honest. It's gory. DC really loves to be extremely brutal. But I was thinking about something.
Starting point is 01:04:32 The reality of superhero movies is very capitalistic, and I guess you'd call it colloquially far right. And the world that we live in is actually very communist when it comes to this. What I mean by that is, I'm watching this uh this cartoon young justice because i'm watching hbo max basically and one of the heroes has a laser arm like his arm turns into a laser gun and i was
Starting point is 01:04:54 like that's just a kid with a gun going around shooting people like he's not a superhero they literally just gave some 16 year old kid a gun and he goes around he's like i'm a hero and he's like blasting lasers at people and i was like in, in the real world, anyone can have a gun. I mean, you might not, you're not supposed to, but that's why we don't have that stuff. Like power is much more distributed. So anyway, I bring that up because in the real world, there's corruption at every level,
Starting point is 01:05:16 like in almost everywhere to varying degrees. And there is no superhero is going to save the day and end all of this. That's why when, you know, Alex Jones says that the real enemy is like an alien intelligence, it makes it feel like we're all in this together up against the true evil. It's just unfortunately not true. Humans are against humans.
Starting point is 01:05:33 When I was a kid, I remember, not a kid, when I was like in my 20s, I knew all these people who were claiming that there was actually a war going on between angels and demons in this other sphere and that you know we could like sort of tap into that other war and i was like wow you guys have way better drugs than me yeah i think of like um demons as like energy patterns that can be catalyzed no idea what this about but a lot of people i knew were like really really really into this with how crazy the universe is they might be right we talk about like demons going on? We talk about demons and angels. A demon is like a pattern of behavior.
Starting point is 01:06:08 The demon is in you now because you're acting on this urge. Something catalyzes this behavior, and we call it a demon. But that might be coming from somewhere far away, like beamed into or vibrating our neurons so we think it. Whereas an angel is more like it just seems to need help. This is why DMT is such an amazing conversation and why I think so many people enjoy it. Joe Rogan talks about it a lot. I mean we every so often bring it up.
Starting point is 01:06:32 But because when people talk about this veil and machine elves, it makes everyone kind of feel like there's something else out there, that this world we experience with all the good and all the bad isn't just it. Because, Ian, you randomly brought up, like, why am I alive? And that's, like, certainly something people experience all the time, that question, that existential question. And so when people hear stories about grand villains, they love it, be it Antifa fighting the fascists or Alex Jones fighting the alien intelligence or people wanting to know more about DMT or angels and demons. There's got to be something else that drives us.
Starting point is 01:07:04 I definitely do believe that there is some kind of spiritual war out there. I don't want to kind of drudge on about my own personal beliefs, but I think to say that everything is just an accident and a mistake, I think that's something that, from my perspective, isn't true. It might be a little bit of naive thinking. I think there's a lot more to this world, especially energetically, that we don't understand yet. I don't think we should understand it. But when it comes to consciousness and dimensions, I think we're only scratching the surface here, even just
Starting point is 01:07:32 with this conversation. Well, of course we are. Of course we're only scratching the surface. We've been scratching the same surface for the entire history of humanity. You know, this is why we have religion. We want to know what's bigger than ourselves. We want to know where we come from and why. Of course we do. You know, at the point when we stop asking that question, we stop being human. Yeah, I get confused.
Starting point is 01:07:53 I think a lot of confusion comes from like, it's a couple, a lot of things going on at once. There's one, there's the carnal need to eat and keep this body healthy. So there's this chaos as a result, but then there's like this benevolent, like energy intelligence that doesn't need food. It's just there, like love. It's telling chaos as a result, but then there's like this benevolent energy intelligence that doesn't need food. It's just there like love.
Starting point is 01:08:08 It's telling you love and communicate, but then you're countering that with your body that's like consume, destroy. I must take its energy to survive. So I have no idea what you're saying here. We'll watch the video again later and you'll see it again. This is the question, right? The question is does the body rule the mind or does the mind rule the body? This is the question. So where are your friends today?
Starting point is 01:08:30 Descartes. The ones who gave you that information. And Morrissey. Both asked those questions. What? Where are your friends? When you were in your 20s, you heard this conversation. Where are they today?
Starting point is 01:08:36 Oh, mostly they're dead. Sorry. Christian. Unhappy. What do you think about this spiritual battle? I don't think about it that much. I think my life is so frantic right now. I've got two kids.
Starting point is 01:08:50 My wife was battling cancer last year. I work seven days a week. I've got so much going on. I work all the time. I don't have time for meatier themes like this, honestly. When you look in your kids let me let me let me let me ask to to kind of build upon that do you guys think when alex jones says demons he literally means like demonic energy or does he mean like evil people people who are bad people you know
Starting point is 01:09:16 what i mean is there a difference i think he means energy well no yeah like he could literally think that there's demons from hell coming through the veil and latching onto people, or he could be saying that these people are demons metaphorically like they're just evil. I think it's like energy tickling the amygdala. I don't want to be speaking for someone else. No, I'm saying how do you interpret it?
Starting point is 01:09:37 I think both could be true. Absolutely. Demons from the other realm. When it comes to energy, there's a lot of crazy things once you start studying and understanding it, dimensions and realities. And especially when it comes to the spirit molecule, there's so much really to have this personal journey. That's kind of even weird to talk about because people are going to be looking at you strange with what you actually believe in. But I think everyone has their own journey in life and has their own understanding of it.
Starting point is 01:10:10 And I think the process of them finding out is something that's really amazing and beautiful. And I think even speaking and telling people what I believe in kind of ruins that. It's so deeply personal. Exactly. But doesn't that mean we should talk about it? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:24 That's just my own personal feelings on it. I think that it's very easy for human beings to become the monster, you know, to dehumanize themselves, to look around and say, like, you know, I'm better than this person or I get to do this horrible thing because I have good reasons to do the horrible thing, you know. But I think that there probably is evil in the world. I don't like to think that you know, but I think that there probably is evil in the world. I don't like to think that there is, but I tend to be an optimist. I tend to look at the good in every person.
Starting point is 01:10:51 When I interact with a person, I try and meet them where they stand and look for the good in them. I mean, I think if you live for the last two years and don't think there's evil in the world, I don't know what you're smoking. I'll take some. That's a in the world. I don't know what you're smoking. I'll take some. That's a very good point. I mean, I've seen, I've gotten so disappointed with people, with my country, with our leaders, with other nations. I can't wrap my head around what's going on right now.
Starting point is 01:11:15 They're evil. There's a thing where people snap. I don't know if you guys ever see someone snap before, where they're like getting, they're getting riled up and then all of a sudden they just like, it's like this weird thing where it's almost not human. It's like the animal takes over. So you're saying like aliens are definitely dangerous. I had some
Starting point is 01:11:34 weird experiences in my life that I don't even want to talk about right now, but there are sociopaths, right? The most amount of sociopaths per capita are in Washington, D.C. That makes a lot of sense to me. And when you look at the science of sociopaths, it explains a lot of the behavior that you see kind of exemplified in a lot of positions of power where naturally sociopaths try to get to. So understanding it from that perspective is also one way to kind of answer the question of why these people do what they do and whether it's demonic evil or just psychological breakdowns of people's mental health.
Starting point is 01:12:08 There's a lot of different possibilities out there, but I think the spirit world is something that does exist and does have a far greater impact than we even understand it to. I've been studying the demons from the Bible, the Christian Bible, from this thing called the Ars Goetia, which is like King Solomon would communicate with demons through a ring. And it's like, you look at these demons and they're all like, it's called the Ars Goetia, if you want to check. So it's not actually in the actual Bible. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:12:34 No, no, no. This is something that was written later about the demons. It's totally not in there. But it's like Baal, the demon. And it's about like a bunch, they're all like kings and dukes and earls and presidents and stuff. And I started thinking, I think these were real people. Well, King Solomon was a real person.
Starting point is 01:12:48 Yeah, for sure. And I think the demons, like the archangels, Michael and all these archangels were real people and the demons were real. And there was a war and the winner wrote the history book and wrote them and demonized them. And said, that land that they all lived in is called hell. And they remember it being all fire and flame because they probably scorched earth.
Starting point is 01:13:10 I have no idea what this is. But the idea of a demon isn't like a person that you got to be afraid of. It's more of a field or like an energy pattern that can kind of co-opt your body. Or is it human beings who have taken that leap into pure evil, which I think happens. I've been told that when you take DMT, you will meet demons and they'll offer you secrets and knowledge and all you got to do is sign the deal. I was there for that conversation. I remember that conversation. I asked some of these people, what is that deal?
Starting point is 01:13:34 And they're like, just the deal. And I'm like, what are you giving up in exchange for the knowledge? Nothing. They tell you, we're going to help you and we're going to give you this information. Don't you want to be free? And that people are told to reject the deal because they're going to help you and we're going to give you this information. Don't you want to be free? And that people are told to reject the deal because they're going to – and then the demons are like, the only reason you would say no to this is because you're a slave and you're brainwashed. You've got to trust me. I'm good for you and I'm going to make your life better.
Starting point is 01:13:56 And so the idea is from a lot of people that these demons are giving global elites access to information. This is what Alex Jones says. They're getting privy to information or whatever from the demons. I think that's just – when you do drugs, you believe crazy things. Nikola Tesla. I mean this is Jesus in the desert, right? So when Jesus goes out into the desert and Satan offers him everything he could possibly ever want and Jesus turns it down.
Starting point is 01:14:19 He turns it down over and over again. But what was he offering him? He offered him he offered him yeah he offered him power like to basically to be the king he offered him i mean we could probably find it but that's the one that i remember he offered him food because he was starving out there in the desert because he was fasting for 40 days power he offered him you know like probably maybe i'm making this up but he probably offered him like sexual stuff you know whatever i don't know if that would work am i making that up no it's just
Starting point is 01:14:51 everything but it was like anything like offering like basically the idea was that satan tried to ply jesus with anything he could come up with that jesus might want and it didn't work and jesus eventually went back and faced his fate, you know, which was devastating and very excruciating for him. And he felt abandoned by God and everything else. And it was terrible. But I think that's, you know, I think that that's such an amazing moment. It's part of why Lent is my favorite season in the Catholic calendar.
Starting point is 01:15:21 It's because when you look at everything and you say to yourself, I am nothing. I am dust. And you have to give up of yourself in order to be closer to God, I think. What do you think, Tim? What's your understanding of it? Of what? Demons. Or I don't know. Or energetic forces. That's why I just like talking about all this crazy stuff. And that's why Michael Malice and Alex Jones talking about DMT I find so fascinating. Yeah. Because I'm like, tell me your experience.
Starting point is 01:15:49 I want to learn as much as I can about this. What really fascinates me about DMT is the shared experiences that people have reported when taking it, which indicates that's a control that shows there may be something truly there. And look, man, I would love to know the answers to the great questions. I don't know if it's possible because we are like these tiny little specs it's not at all possible and yeah yeah of course it's not possible the universe is so massive it seems to have something to do with the double uh 64 tetrahedron and the double torus energy pattern that's produced nasim harriman's done a lot of
Starting point is 01:16:19 geometric mathematics to produce it's this i think it's this shape this is a two-dimensional representation of this 64 tetrahedron. And that life has... I don't know if there's a point to it, but it seems to be like a shape that you see the Fibonacci sequence emerge out of this shape a lot of times. That's a cool sequence. And you start
Starting point is 01:16:37 seeing it under particular substances. The golden ratio? Yeah, under DMT, people see Aztec patterns and stuff. Like mushrooms as well. What is DMT from? Like what's its source? It's in your brain. It's secreted when you dream. And when you're born, it's dumped into your brain.
Starting point is 01:16:52 So when you're taking DMT, you're taking brain juice? No. You're not taking brain juice. It's in our natural environment. A lot of living things have them. And you can procure it. So where does it come from? Plants.
Starting point is 01:17:05 Okay. Your adrenal gland, right? Or your pituitary gland? Your third eye. Let's double check. Let's make sure we get everything right here because I want to be honest about it. You secrete DMT naturally inside of your brain every time you dream.
Starting point is 01:17:21 And when you're born up until a certain age of I think about seven, your brain is filled with it. This is why children have a vivid imagination, and that's why they say that they see creatures and monsters and entities. Ghosts. Ghosts, especially.
Starting point is 01:17:36 And then when you die, it's rushed into your brain. So this is something that, of course, should take people on their own individual investigative journeys. They should study this. Some people are like, just do DMT. And I would not do that. I would say people need to study and be respectful of this and do their research and homework. I'd freak out if I saw something like this coming at me.
Starting point is 01:17:58 That looks like a demon to me. That's what I see when I look at you. Oh, yeah. Normally. That's because Ian's always... DMT stands for dimethyltryptamine. And apparently, it's responsible for this waking dream state. You know how those people are, life is a dream.
Starting point is 01:18:12 Why are these weird... Maybe we are dreaming, right? Oh, I used to have that. I used to have all kinds of weird things that I saw. That's a totally different conversation. They're doing what's called extended state DMT experiments now. I think in England for sure. Somewhere in Great Britain. And they're putting people
Starting point is 01:18:29 in because people are reporting seeing things like this and they're coming out. And a lot of people are having similar experiences. So they want to know why. But it's such a quick 15 minute experience if people smoke it. Now they're trying to do it in a lab under an environment where you can go in on like an IV drip of it and stay in for like hours at a time.
Starting point is 01:18:48 There's no puppies involved with this, is there? I don't know yet. No. I don't know. There's no Dr. Fauci involved here. Hey, let's be real though. When it comes to experimentation, I'd be willing to bet that tons of governments around the world have kidnapped humans and trafficked them for the purpose of experimentation.
Starting point is 01:19:02 Oh, sure. The CIA. They did it with LSD. Openly, willingly, to the point where- Wasn't Fauci experimenting on orphans? Yes, and other small animals and creatures. Wasn't ecstasy created to help Swedish elderly people do their exercises? What is that what it was for?
Starting point is 01:19:18 How weird. Am I remembering something weird? I don't know. It was given to people in old folks' homes in Scandinavia so that they would do their exercises. That sounds crazy. It does work for exercise in old folks' homes in Scandinavia so that they would do their exercises. It does work for exercise. I feel like I remember that. I took it once and worked out really hard. The next
Starting point is 01:19:32 day, I didn't have the serotonin depletion. I felt it tingling in my muscles for two days afterwards. I felt phenomenal the next day. Just like with anything, please be careful. Please do your own homework. Please do your own research. Don't break the law. Whatever you do, there's a lot of fentanyl also Just like with anything, please be careful. Please do your own homework. Please do your own research. Don't break the law. Please get testing kits. Yeah, don't break the law.
Starting point is 01:19:47 Whatever you do, there's a lot of fentanyl also interlaced with a lot of the molly out there. There's been a lot of people hurt by this very severely. So just – I can't stress this enough. That's why you say no to drugs and you don't break the law. That's right. Whatever it is, do your own homework, do your own research. In a lab setting where they're doing extended state DMT, this is where we're going to find better answers. Because some dude in his living room who's like, yo, I talked to a giant green elf, man.
Starting point is 01:20:10 I'm going to be like, yeah. I knew this guy when I was younger, and he was like, dude, I'm telling you, aliens are real because I've seen them. And then I was like, for real? And I was like 16. He's like, yeah, dude. I went outside. I was at my friend's house, and I was leaving, and it was late at night. And I go into the alley, and all of a sudden a spaceship comes overhead.
Starting point is 01:20:27 Like everybody was inside. It was late at night. But I'm telling you, dude, I saw this with my own eyes. And I was like, wow. So what happened is like, well, me and my friends, because we've been doing tons of drugs. And then I went, oh, get out of here, dude. I was like, you know what? All of a sudden I'm just like, I was all excited for some story.
Starting point is 01:20:47 And then, like, you know, Ian, you told the story about the wolf. You're on the roof. I was crazy. And then you're like, I was high. Okay, dude, your story's not true. That's like when Homer Simpson, that's like your Homer Simpson thing, right? Yeah, it was only THC, which when you talk about high and drugs, you got to be careful because some of them it's like, I think oregano oil can get you high in
Starting point is 01:21:05 a strong enough dose. So you've got to be careful with what that even means. You can also just psych yourself out like crazy. You can always psych yourself out and see weird stuff and have wild ideas. The placebo effect is one of the most trippiest
Starting point is 01:21:21 scientific effects that also is worth talking about. Tryptamines? No, the placebo effect. one of the most trippiest scientific effects that also is worth talking about. Tryptamines? No, the placebo effect. Because you believe in something, you can manifest and create something just by your belief system. Is that like a rudimentary manifestation? Like people on the placebo effect actually get better in some circumstances? Yes.
Starting point is 01:21:41 And so it's people manifesting their health. Exactly. So just understanding those basic principles and laws, when you implement them with other things in your existence, this is also something worth considering, talking about, especially when you have people consuming carefully curated social media, the boob tube, the CNN. Imagine your consciousness and your thought process being affected in such an effect. Just like the placebo can have an effect. I'd just like to say that I have not heard the term the boob tube in real life. That's right. That's old school.
Starting point is 01:22:16 Luke and I have a mutual friend, and I was going to visit him, and he lives in L.A. And L.A. parking, it's a nightmare in this area, right? And so I'm close to his house and I call him. I'm like, hey, I'm here. Where can I park? And he goes, oh, bro, just manifest the spot. I'm dead serious. Robbie.
Starting point is 01:22:34 Yeah, shout out to Robbie. He was like, bro, you got to manifest the spot. And I was like, Robbie, I'm not going to manifest a parking space. Where do I park? And he's like, oh, dude, you got to drive around and just manifest it. And I was like, okay, are you telling me to just around and just manifest it. And I was like, okay, are you telling me to just drive
Starting point is 01:22:46 until someone moves and I can park my car? And so that's what I did. But then like, that's proof that he was right because he was like, see, I told you and then you found a spot
Starting point is 01:22:54 and I'm like, whatever, dude. Yeah, I used to drive around LA and be like, there's an open spot and then I'd look and hope that it was manifested and be like,
Starting point is 01:23:00 there's an open spot and I'd look and hope that it was and it wouldn't be. And I'd be like, no, I don't think this is really working. But eventually, you'd find an open spot and you could claim, hey, I manifested it. No, eventually, there's an open spot and I'd look and hope that it was and it wouldn't be. And I'd be like, no, I don't think this is really working. But eventually you'd find an open spot and you could claim, hey, I manifested it.
Starting point is 01:23:10 No, eventually you find an open spot because it was there. Like if you don't manifest it. And sometimes it's there right away. Don't ruin it. Come on. That's ridiculous. Dude, Christian, I got to know about your book. It's been there this whole show and I've been looking at it. I don't want to derail anything, but we have like books.
Starting point is 01:23:21 Tell me about this Virtue. So it's called Virtue Bombs. And you lived in L.A.? Is this what this is about? No, I mean, I just cover Hollywood. What's going on? It's exactly what we talk about as far as narratives, but it's a woke narrative that's just crushing Hollywood.
Starting point is 01:23:34 It is making things less creative. It's obviously attacking comedy. It's identity politics gone wild. It's so many things that are going wrong with Hollywood. And one of the things I'm really upset about the whole situation is I'm waiting for that Tom Hanks, that Denzel, that Meryl Streep to come out and take a stand against what's happening in the industry. And they won't do it.
Starting point is 01:23:55 They're all scared to death. Why is it? What do you think it is? I mean, it's fear. You know, I talk about this in the book very early on. Hollywood is all about fear. It's like fear of getting older, fear of losing the next gig, fear of your movie not making any money,
Starting point is 01:24:08 fear of someone behind you who's better looking and more talented and going to take your role, fear of getting old. Canceled. Canceled. Well, then you add this layer to it, and it's a whole new layer. And they're scared. They're just absolutely terrified. That's why no one – very few people are saying,
Starting point is 01:24:25 I mean, the Adam Carollos, the Ricky Gervaises, the Joe Rogans, they are standing up. They're doing something about it, but they're the exception to the rule. You think like Tom Hanks is afraid he might get canceled?
Starting point is 01:24:34 Tom Hanks just decided to narrate a special about Joe Biden's first year. You know why? Not just that he's a liberal and it's fine with him. His movies aren't doing well right now. He's in his 60s.
Starting point is 01:24:47 He's looking at things and thinking, maybe I should kind of secure my situation. Nick Cersei often says that sometimes actors, when they get really woke on social media, it's not about what they believe or think. They're actually auditioning for the next role. They want to kind of say, hey, I'm with you. I'm in the group. This is what I believe as well. Come hire me.
Starting point is 01:25:05 There's like a Q – is it called the Q rating or something? Is that what it's called? So the approval rating is what people think of you or something like that? In like Hollywood, I thought the agencies have like a number they assign to like celebrities. I haven't – definitely true. I haven't heard in a while, but that's – yeah, it's sort of the popularity, the acceptance, things like that. I would say John Cena has the best social credit score, especially when it comes to Hollywood. And then behind him is The Rock.
Starting point is 01:25:27 That also shills for the governor of California. Yeah, this is legit. It's called the Q score. Wikipedia says the measurement of familiarity and appeal of a brand, celebrity, or company. So Tom Hanks does this video because he knows it's going to get attention. Sure. And then the agencies are going to be like, people know Tom Hanks? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:44 No, I understand the whole mechanics behind it. I'm just thinking, if you're Tom Hanks, you just watched the last year of this presidency, even if you voted for Biden, even if you're left of center, even if you're a hardcore Democrat, you really want to sign on to this guy? This point, what we just watched?
Starting point is 01:25:57 I mean, that kind of boggles the mind, but you see that a lot. Did he get paid? Who knows? Who knows? Oh, come on. I'm sure he's transparent. Absolutely. Tax taxpayer dollars for that
Starting point is 01:26:06 absolutely the white house admittedly bought social media influencers on tiktok to promote the vaccine in their vaccine effort you know it's hard for me to think to even comprehend that people like meryl street denzel washington are afraid of getting canceled because they're so powerful well look at scarlett johansson that's a big part of my book is she's very beautiful. She's very talented. She's bankable. When her movies come out, they make money. So she's maybe the most powerful actress in Hollywood.
Starting point is 01:26:33 She took a role to playing a trans person in a movie called Rub and Tug. And then the woke mob came after her. Like that, I am sorry. I'm going to be an ally. I will do better next time. That's the most powerful person in Hollywood. What about other people? Lower, lower, lower levels.
Starting point is 01:26:50 The gaffer on the movie set. An actress coming up. What do they think when they see something like that happen? It sends a signal. It's like with Dave Chappelle. The most powerful comedian of our age. The goat. And yet he's under constant attack now because he told a few jokes that some people didn't
Starting point is 01:27:08 like. And he starts to falter. His last special was very much him constantly addressing the criticism. Oh, yeah, sure. But it's the criticism, as we mentioned, of less than 2%. It's about 1% of the US population who are active. So you have 2% of the US population active on Twitter. About 1.2 or so are left because there's slightly more left than right.
Starting point is 01:27:27 And Dave Chappelle is addressing those people. Yeah, absolutely. And also what's interesting about him is what is the message for the other comedians? You think they're going to go near that material? They're going to think they're going to take a chance? If they could almost take down Dave Chappelle, and good for Netflix for standing by him, and they've done that mostly, a pretty good job of saying we're not we we back him we understand what's going on but if you're like a club comic and you're just starting out
Starting point is 01:27:50 and you want to kind of engage in some really challenging topics and themes but you don't have his skill set and you don't have his fame i would avoid it you might you might not get work i talk to comedians all the time who get attacked by other comedians and who try to get them canceled it's fascinating but the system broke. Ryan Long is enjoying tremendous success and growing rapidly because he doesn't care. He's a funny guy. Yep.
Starting point is 01:28:12 He's existing in this whole new, you know, he's not on Saturday Night Live. He's not going to be on Netflix, but he's got his own little niche and he's very successful. He's also very good. And he's aggressively a political, which is interesting.
Starting point is 01:28:22 It's interesting, I think, about like how figureheads are so powerful for morale like if an army of 10 000 men is is engaging another army with 8 000 men but then the leader gets killed the army will route they'll turn and run because they've lost command and if like you see tom hanks bend the knee then that kind of it's similar morale shattering effect on the people that follow and obsess over Tom Hanks. Oh, what were you going to say? No, go, go. When you were writing this, did you follow the history of this coming up in the last seven years or something?
Starting point is 01:28:52 You know, it kind of encompasses that time period. It feels new-ish. There have been echoes of it for a while. But it's the last three or four years where it's metastasized in a way that is so powerful. Barry Weiss's Substack page had an amazing article recently they had two two investigative reporters dig into people i think they interviewed like 25 people most were off the record because they're scared to death and they talked about how if you're a white male in hollywood you're out you just don't get work they they actively don't want to hire you. And listen, Hollywood has done a terrible job with diversity, and this is a course correction,
Starting point is 01:29:27 but it's an extreme course correction. It's way too far. So if you're a white comic, you're in trouble. You're not going to get the gigs. Not just for talent. It got shattered by internet video. I was there in 2005, 6, 7. I started making YouTube videos in 06, and I watched the entertainment industry start
Starting point is 01:29:44 to be like, what are we going to do i would get called into auditions and then they would google my name for the first time in history an actor they would look outside of the audition for who is this guy and they'd see like crazy videos of me and then they'd be like i'm not touching that yeah but then you see maker studios a bunch of youtubers make this company sells to disney for a billion dollars because they're desperate for content and for entertainment. And instead of people going into Hollywood and getting contracted with Paramount, they're starting up their own thing now. But for a lot of – actors are marketing essentially.
Starting point is 01:30:15 They want to put the name on the title. They want to – people will go see it because that can pull – those actors are recognizable. With internet video, there's a lot of people – and the internet really changed this. There are people who have no business in certain industries becoming successful in certain industries by simple virtue of being famous. Like the Paul brothers are boxers now. You know what I mean? Well, they're famous. They can get draw.
Starting point is 01:30:36 They can make money. Who cares if they're good at boxing? We're going to make millions of dollars if we do a boxing match with them. Rat battles, all of that stuff. So the whole landscape is shifting, and it's turning into are you famous or are you not famous? One interesting thing I noted, there's a new Lord of the Rings series coming to Amazon Prime. $465
Starting point is 01:30:54 million poured into just one season. September 2nd is coming. So I don't know a lot about it. They haven't released a lot about it, but they had a list of the actors who were in it. I didn't recognize a single name. The brand is Lord of the Rings. You don't need that. Even with all that money, they went
Starting point is 01:31:10 with a whole bunch of lesser known actors because that is the property. That's the drawing. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah, same with the Marvel movies. I remember if you look back at the old articles, it was really funny. They were sharing them on Reddit and it was like Marvel bets big on no names. Was it Chris chris hemsworth and tom hiddleston and it was like
Starting point is 01:31:28 showing pictures of them and it was like can these movies survive and now they're huge now they're so famous so they knew and and marvel notoriously pays very very little for their for their actors in these movies they get paid like a couple hundred grand for except for robert downey jr he was getting an obscene amount of money i think it was what was it what did they report like tens of millions of dollars i mean at that point he was the anchor of the whole the whole franchise so they just threw the they threw the brink struck at him so that's right and deservedly so yeah deservedly so it's great but you know what now like a lot of uh it's moving to streaming and it feels like one thing that really bothers me with netflix is that they'll do two seasons of a show no matter what and then just cancel it it's moving to streaming. And it feels like one thing that really bothers me with Netflix
Starting point is 01:32:05 is that they'll do two seasons of a show no matter what and then just cancel it. It's just really like spaghetti thrown on the wall in a lot of ways. It's also there's no transparency. Netflix will say, okay, this show is our number one show and this is number two. But with movie theaters, you can see the grossest. You can see what movies make each week.
Starting point is 01:32:20 A lot of these new platforms have nothing. It's just you have to trust them. So we don't know if it's low ratings or it's too expensive or there's some sort of behind-the-scenes controversy. We have no idea. You know what it is? It's boring. Groundhog Day was a great movie. Ghostbusters is a great movie.
Starting point is 01:32:36 But no one wants to take chances anymore. And I think it was... Who was it? Who was the guy who said no one wants to take chances anymore because you'll get canceled? And they thought he was saying you'll get attacked for being racist. What he was actually saying is they'll cancel your TV show. I can't remember who that was.
Starting point is 01:32:56 Donald Glover maybe. Maybe so. I don't know. He was just like nobody wants to take chances anymore because you'll get canceled. And then everyone was like just don't be racist. What's the problem? He's like, no, I mean your show won't make it. Like you've got to stick to the formula.
Starting point is 01:33:10 So every movie is becoming very much the same. They're like, let's make 12 Avatar movies because that made money. Let's make 50 Marvel movies. That makes money. In your research, do you find actors that buck the system and still keep working? Very few. Very few. Some comedians are able to do that.
Starting point is 01:33:25 Adam Carolla maybe is one of the best examples. But he built his own pirate ship. That's what he calls it. It's his own company. So go try to cancel him. Although one thing I will say about Adam is that no one's even trying anymore. When you punch the bully back in the nose, they kind of go away. But if you kind of let them influence you, then often they'll kind of own you.
Starting point is 01:33:45 Tina Fey is a great example. Very funny lady. Did a lot of great shows. And a few years ago, she was under some sort of quick kind of early cancel culture attack. And she said, you know what? I'm making a policy not to explain my jokes,
Starting point is 01:33:56 which was a great answer. That's a good policy. Like a year or so ago, she's all woke. She's all into cancel culture. I'm so glad I'm being educated. She was basically just saying the party line.
Starting point is 01:34:08 So three years ago, four years ago, she was proud and independent. Now she's been re-educated. I'm glad the struggle session worked and we can all go back and delete 30 Rock. Why? What's she doing now? Other than, yeah, isn't she deleting episodes of 30 Rock? You know, I think there's a new
Starting point is 01:34:23 show that might be on Peacock or something that she might be involved with. But I was reading her interviews, and she was talking about comedy and the atmosphere and things like that. She was completely transformed. But it's like Jimmy Fallon, too. Margaret Cho. Margaret Cho is not funny anymore at all. I don't think she ever was. But I think she was more of a true believer, even, I think, early on.
Starting point is 01:34:43 Interesting. We've gone over, but we have to do this segment on the getter crisis mode leaked audio. And so this will dig into some of our Super Chat time. But we kind of just – that's my fault. We trailed off and talked about a bunch of crazy stuff. We can stay a little long. You guys are going to be interested. But people absolutely want to know about this.
Starting point is 01:34:59 It was in the title of the video because we plan on getting into it with Joe Rogan stuff. So here's a story from Mother Jones. It's kind of crazy. Leaked messages show plan on getting into it with Joe Rogan stuff. So here's a story from Mother Jones. It's kind of crazy. Leaked messages show Getter in crisis mode over Joe Rogan criticism. They suggest deeper involvement in the MAGA company by a controversial Chinese billionaire than previously acknowledged. I'm not a big fan of Mother Jones. I don't think they're always wrong, but I think they're manipulative and they're agenda-driven. And they're probably doing this story because it's bad for Getter, and Getter is MAGA. But they do have leaked audio from Miles Guo. They say, talking to Jason Miller,
Starting point is 01:35:33 he says, we don't want to do any bad things to this guy, Rogan. He says, we need to respect him, just explain to him what happened. This is leaked audio about how Joe Rogan came out and criticized Getter. The interesting thing here is, Luke, correct me if I'm wrong, didn't Jason tell us that Guo was not involved, or what did he say? I asked him directly about the involvement of Chinese money and the money that's financed in the company. We should pull up his exact comment, but from what I think he said, he said that the decisions are made by the company
Starting point is 01:36:04 and the investors don't have say that much in the company. But didn't he say like Guo is not directly involved, no formal role, no money or something like that? We would have to look at that statement to be correct, but I think you're right. But this is fascinating because, I mean, it just shows that there is apparently this involvement. I don't know exactly what that means necessarily because Guo is this guy who comes out and is overtly anti-CCP. But it is interesting because it's still a Chinese interest funding U.S. companies. And I don't know, man. I don't know if I trust that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 01:36:37 I'm definitely not a xenophobe. But, well, firstly, that it got leaked is a little concerning because I think he sent it to 10 people. And one of those 10 people. Is that what it was? Yeah. Guo sent it to 10 people, that it got leaked is a little concerning because I think he sent it to 10 people. And one of those 10 people – Is that what it was? Yeah. Guo sent it to 10 people, that conversation. And then of that, somebody leaked it. That's like if you're in your inner circle, if you're 10 inner circle, someone's going to leak your stuff.
Starting point is 01:36:54 That's kind of bad news structurally for the company. 20 people. 20 people. 20. Okay. Thank you. It was one-on-one with Miller and then forwarded the exchange to a group of 20 associates. 20.
Starting point is 01:37:03 So one out of 20 people must have leaked, seems to have leaked that. That's disturbing. I don't know if it's the biggest deal in the world, to be honest. It's not. I'm just wondering if there's like a – It's a normal conversation that goes on in a corporation when you get bad PR. But the question is, is this Chinese billionaire involved in a social media platform that's trying to attract all the magazine on the
Starting point is 01:37:25 board of advisors that's what i want to know well i i don't know i think the question is just it's it's not relevant to what you can claim you can have someone who's got no direct involvement but you know they're secretly running the show so like if you if there's leaked audio of you being like calling steve bannon and being like do you think i should something something paint my wall brown would they be like colludes with paint my wall brown? If he was like, I need you in relation to your last guest. You got to understand this guy needs this, that, this. I'm like, okay, you got it, man.
Starting point is 01:37:53 Okay. So if it was related to the show, this show. Hey, I'm thinking about having someone on on Wednesday. Should I? And Steve gives you his advice. Are all of a sudden you colluding with Steve Bannon? Like, no, come on. You just asked a friend some advice.
Starting point is 01:38:04 I guess it depends on what we get out of this to what degree. Are all of a sudden you colluding with Steve Bannon? Like, no, come on. You just asked a friend some advice. I guess it depends on what we get out of this, to what degree. The criticism and the fear is that there's a Chinese billionaire, regardless of what his position on the CCP, involved with a ton of American companies. And honestly, I've never seen you ask someone what guests you should have on, and maybe that would be a problem. I have none of this. How you should run your company. Maybe that's why my perspective is that this is maybe more nefarious than it really is.
Starting point is 01:38:25 Because I don't have anything like this. There's nobody that I talk to about anything. In fact, Lydia does the bookings. I don't do it. Yeah. She's like, not even in the microphone, just like, yeah. Yeah, that's true. Sometimes I get my friends to come and then there's usually controversy behind it.
Starting point is 01:38:37 And I'm like, what am I doing? Sometimes they're great. Sometimes they're tough. Yeah. I don't know, man. There's memes coming out of Getter going down and it's involving me. I'm like, I don't know, man. I just was asked questions.
Starting point is 01:38:53 So with this Chinese billionaire, I would be very cautious because I was thinking about it and I was like, well, it would be great if he were anti-CCP. That's kind of a cool idea that somebody could flee China and come to the u.s and work against chinese communist party but there is almost a better chance that he's working with the cp ccp they're paying him and he's being like a you know like a some kind of spy for them i don't know that just makes me really cautious and worried it's basically just leaked audio of guo advising miller on what to do about the Joe Rogan situation. That's fucking crazy. Regarding the CCP, like if he works for it or not, like you look at Jack Ma,
Starting point is 01:39:30 who was a Chinese billionaire, he got ripped apart by the CCP. He lost like half his $900 billion empire. They took a bunch of his company. Like he disappeared. They disappeared him from society for like three months. And then he apologized.
Starting point is 01:39:42 And then he apologized. They sold off one of his companies. He's the owner of Al he apologized okay they sold off one of his companies he's the alibaba owner of alibaba and they sold off like half of his ali other ali i was thinking of the apple daily guy who also got he was the doing a daily in hong kong and he was imprisoned along with a bunch of his staff so totally different yeah go fled the country he's not in china so they weren't maybe they're not able to get to him or maybe it's, he's a plant. I really don't know. I don't know the guy. Yeah. I don't either. I'm not confident in getter. And I, you know, hate to be that guy. Well, it's proprietary, man. You can't trust proprietary software.
Starting point is 01:40:16 You can't trust people telling you what it does. Yeah, Gab's open source. You can only trust code when it comes to social networking. It can be tracking you. It can be selling your data. It can be, it can be feeding you algorithmic ads and they can tell you with a smile on their face, we're not doing any of that. But unless you can inspect the code and verify it, you cannot trust. You cannot trust any human regarding that kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:40:38 I don't know what to think about all this, to be completely honest, but I guess it is what it is. We'll just see more information comes out. Yeah, maybe it's nothing. Maybe we know he knows Guo and maybe they're comes out. Yeah, maybe it's something. Maybe it's nothing. Maybe like we know he knows Guo and maybe they're just talking. Or as Mother Jones tries framing it, it's deeper involvement than anyone realized. He sent it to 20 Getter employees?
Starting point is 01:40:53 That's kind of weird. I guess. Guo sent it to 20 Getter employees. Yeah, or maybe it's an attempt at generating press. Maybe. Yeah. Or maybe they leaked it. You don't think so?
Starting point is 01:41:04 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. He's going to jump on like Mother Jones is doing it. I mean, that's the template. Yeah. Well, we'll see how that plays out. But let's go to Super Chats because we're behind. We're late, yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:15 If you haven't already, smash that Like button. Subscribe to this channel. Share the show with your friends. Become a member at TimCast.com to support our work and get access to exclusive members-only segments from the podcast and a bunch of other shows as well. Let's read what we got. All right, let's see. What is this? Araftas of Stats says, hey, Tim, came over from Crowder's show.
Starting point is 01:41:35 Didn't like you at first. I think it was the glasses, but really love the show and the work you do, the work you folks do. Keep it up. I haven't worn glasses in, what, like, a year and a half? Yeah. No, I was wearing glasses for a while before. Oh, yeah. Yeah, because I didn't like,
Starting point is 01:41:49 I've always worn contacts, but I just figured, you know, I'm not going to dry out my eyes, because afterwards I would go skate, and I'd put my contacts in fresh, and then I would skate, and I was like, it just felt better. But then I was just like, eh, just wear my contacts, whatever. I got good contacts. No problem. Do you have those day-night contacts?
Starting point is 01:42:05 No, I've got dailies. I got good contacts. No problem. Do you have those day-night contacts? No, I got dailies. Dailies, yeah. I got the ones where you can wear them for a month. There was like a, although rage, you could wear them for a month and then take them out. Did you ever see that, like 2006, 2005? That seems like a bad idea. I wore it for eight months. I would take them out once in a while and wash them and then put it back in and keep,
Starting point is 01:42:18 because I was broke. I was so poor. Oh, man. And my eyes started to get really red and like bloodshot. I'd take it out and it would just be a ring of red. Yeah, there was a girl who went blind from that. There was a girl who went blind from keeping the same contacts in.
Starting point is 01:42:28 They don't sell those anymore. That's why I just wear glasses. Same. I stop wearing contacts after that. I don't have to worry about that at all. It's not fun skating in glasses though. Yeah. Well, I mean you can, but all right.
Starting point is 01:42:37 Trent Lomelino says, I'm already puking. No. Aw. It's going to be a lot of puking. I'm sorry. I live for the no change. We are Luke, we puke.
Starting point is 01:42:47 No Luke, we puke comments are a warm place in my heart. Rob Cochran says, yay, Luke is leaving. Now other people will be able to talk and share with us. Hey, what's up with me there? He found my alternative account. All right. What is this? Little Tales Farm says, here's a press five super chat for Luke.
Starting point is 01:43:11 Take care, bro, and safe travels to Florida from all of us here at Little Tales Farms. We will be keeping up with you. Thank you. I got to figure out how to keep the pressure on Bill Gates with the smooth charm. That's right. I'll send you talking points during the show all the time. Did you know Bill Gates did this? He's your insider.
Starting point is 01:43:31 Kyler, Kazmir says, hey, Tim, I've been enjoying the Cast Castle channel. Good stuff. I noticed you order out a lot for the crew. I think the house would definitely benefit from hiring a chef. You are correct. Oh, yeah. We do order a lot. We just ordered a bunch of Starbucks.
Starting point is 01:43:44 Yes. We don't like Starbucks for being woke lot. We just ordered a bunch of Starbucks. Yes. We don't like Starbucks for being woke, but we bought a big order from Starbucks because they ended the Vax mandate when a bunch of other companies weren't. And I said, I reward good behavior. I like what they're doing. I still be critical. If they come around and do stupid woke stuff or bring it back, then we'll stop buying from them.
Starting point is 01:44:00 That's how it works. I don't like it. But I don't like it because it's like if someone puts their foot on your neck and then eventually they take it off and you're like, oh, thank you so much for taking your foot off my neck. Let me buy your – you're a good guy now. But it's like they put you in that position to be – Yeah, but it's a little different. Not Starbucks.
Starting point is 01:44:13 The difference is it's a big corporation that's doing a whole bunch of things and we're trying to push it in the right direction. Right. So I see your point though. I get it. I see your point. But I want to add, at the new facility which is currently being built, we will have a chef. Yeah, so people have told me, too, they don't think that you should reward Starbucks for doing something good just because they didn't do the right thing in the first place.
Starting point is 01:44:34 Then they will get woker. Jordan Peterson says, if someone does something right, you reward them for it. That's the only way to get them to do more of that thing. And I think he's right about that. So I think it's the right way to get them to do more of that thing and i think he's right about that so i think it's the right thing to do if you don't engage then starbucks just goes well we tried but they don't care anyway so let's just keep pushing woke where we can make money exactly nah it's not about what starbucks is doing it's about winning influence winning friends and influence all right garrett says stephen colbert lived long enough to become a villain it's pathetic he's
Starting point is 01:45:03 against the country that gave him this opportunity for cheap CBS bucks. He's a manure spreader now. Yo, it was one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. When Kirsten Sinema, who correctly said the filibuster is like a safeguard that makes sure that legislation has broader support in this country. He goes,
Starting point is 01:45:20 no, no. The side that's filibustering represents 41 million people less. As if the people of Illinois are literally every single person's a Democrat. Yeah, Illinois is like split. All of these blue states are fairly evenly split. Except for California, which is like two to one Democrat, Republican. So when you look at the country as a whole, the people of these states should not be blindly marching behind Democrats because they're ignoring conservative constituents. So you get Sinema and Manchin who are like, I'm going to respect that my state's fairly
Starting point is 01:45:46 moderate. Colbert is wrong. Cristiano says, oh, my gems. I have an amethyst right here. If you guys aren't watching the Cast Castle vlog, you're missing out. So it's basically Seamus and Chris engaging in enhanced interrogations to figure out who's spreading rumors about Seamus. And they put Ian on an inversion table and flip him upside down and gems go flying everywhere. My gems.
Starting point is 01:46:17 All right. Sweet gems. Ray says, live Dave Smith. He recently made a mistake he blamed alex jones for helping to incite the crowd on january 6th i think dave has alex jones derangement syndrome get him back on with alex and malik is that true that dave said that love dave smith i bet he's what he meant no no no he says oh okay right right right but he recently made a mistake uh alex is on camera saying don't go to the don't Stay out. They're trying to trick you. Alex
Starting point is 01:46:46 was very adamantly. And he had a permit too, I'm pretty sure, right? I think so, yeah. He knows what to do. John White says, please use this for gas to get the mobile studio to Florida. We will miss Luke, but his nomad status is part of the overall Luke package that we will love. Stay real and keep making new
Starting point is 01:47:01 shirts and words. Much love. Yeah, I mean the Radowski has to Radowski. I've got to get moving. We actually had our RV tech come out today for measurements. And then with the next couple of weeks, they're going to be finalizing the new RV mobile system. We got a different one. It's a
Starting point is 01:47:17 better system. It's going to have a solar system on it and an insane amount of electricity. We're going to be able to power this thing independently without needing outlets and stuff. That way, we can go down to Florida. I think we're aiming for mid to the end of February because there's a couple of big events that are happening. And then we're going to try and take the show on the road periodically and do like what we did in Austin, which was amazing. And it'd be really cool because we had plans to go to the Daily Wire's headquarters, but imagine just doing a ridiculous cacophony show with Daily Wire hosts.
Starting point is 01:47:46 I mean, just come to Florida once a month for three to four weeks. I think it would be a great idea. There's so much. Live events in Florida would go crazy right now. We've got to do it. Here's a good one. Buffalo Rose says, in reference to the Rogan letter, When Einstein was challenged by Nazis at the publication,
Starting point is 01:48:06 100 Scientists Against Einstein, he replied, why 100? If I was wrong, it would only take one. Could you say congratulations to my wife, Nicole? She's expecting a fourth child. Wow, congratulations. Congrats.
Starting point is 01:48:16 Congrats, Nicole. Congrats. All right, let's see. Ian Hall says, bro, androgynous and tiny, Disney has been pushing that for years. It's a small world. Joseph says,
Starting point is 01:48:34 Tom McDonald's new song dropped today called New World Order. Coincidence, Luke mentions New World Order? I mention it every show along with Bill Gates and Build Back Better. Wasn't there a Twitter fact check on the New World Order? I don't remember, but there probably was. But how absurd our society is.
Starting point is 01:48:51 Mikhail says, Modern war is 5% kinetic, 15% economy, and 80% information. Erickson controls telecom in 184 countries. This gets them blackmail information. This gets them power. Did you realize Erickson controls AT&T? Is that true? I've never heard of Ericsson.
Starting point is 01:49:09 Did someone look up that Twitter New World Order thing? I'm pretty sure they did. It was funny. A Swedish multinational networking and telecommunications company headquartered in Stockholm is Ericsson. Oh, that's not the Twitter thing I was talking about. Telefonakti Bolaget LM Ericsson is the name of the company. Unvaxed Soldier says, this is a reference to Luke. Luke brought it up, but he said, politicians already go to the island after their terms.
Starting point is 01:49:30 Epstein Island. Aha. Absolutely. Yep. I think a bunch of people made similar jokes. Omega says, Ian is correct. Caligula insulted the Senate by practically saying that he would make his horse a senator, basically saying my horse can do better.
Starting point is 01:49:44 Yep. Yeah, but let's be real. Like when that dog was made mayor of that town, everybody really appreciated it. And that cat in Alaska. Oh, really? Yeah, this cat. Yeah, he's been mayor for a long time.
Starting point is 01:49:53 People were like, we don't need politicians. That's the mayor we've ever had. Jared says, Tim, you need to have Dan Bongino on the show to talk about what he is doing with the parallel economy. Russiagate, maybe even some Secret Service stuff. That'd make a great show. Dan Bongino would absolutely be welcome on the show. But he does his own show.
Starting point is 01:50:08 Very busy. And it's a very, very big show. So, you know, probably busy guy. But would love to have him. It would be great to have him and a few other people maybe. We could do a big, crazy show. That'd be awesome. All right.
Starting point is 01:50:21 Let's see. Heffinator? Is that what it says? Heffinator? With West Virginia losing a a house seat merging both panhandle districts many in my area are not happy with mckinley but hear good things about mooney have you thought about having mooney on your show i not know i don't know a whole lot about um a lot of the west virginia politicians because i have not been there that long but and also i don't know know, to get into local politics. Well, maybe.
Starting point is 01:50:48 Let's put it that way. I think maybe that would be a good idea, actually, to talk about West Virginia because everybody talks about Florida, New Hampshire, and Texas. And I think West Virginia does some good stuff too, and they can do a lot better. And maybe by bringing some of these people on and asking these questions, West Virginia can do even better.
Starting point is 01:51:03 And then everyone's going to be like, I can't believe you made America Florida,ida luke you should make america west virginia west virginia is awesome man i i look i i guess it's because i grew up in a in a more similar climate than you know florida it's tropical i just it's not my thing if it wasn't for florida there would be lockdowns there'd be mandates there was the only state that first stood up against all that nonsense. The fight is there. No, Florida.
Starting point is 01:51:27 I mean, DeSantis on the large scale, especially with the corporate media, the attention was all on Florida. They were saying it was going to be a bloodbath. They made the first stand. They made a very strong one. So the fight is there. There's an election there. There's a lot of energy there.
Starting point is 01:51:41 It's going to get absolutely crazy. So that's my personal belief. I want to invest and build, especially with the Bitcoin community down there in Miami. There's a lot of energy there. It's going to get absolutely crazy. So that's my personal belief. I want to invest and build, especially with the Bitcoin community down there in Miami. There's a lot of incredible things happening. And in Puerto Rico, too. Absolutely. Jay Stewart says, wait, they gave Cyborg a laser? No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:51:55 It's a freaking sonic cannon, not a laser, not a gun. It's a souped-up megaphone. Writers, get your own lore correct or stop writing. Jay, Jay, whoa, whoa, slow down there. I was talking about Arsenal, not Cyborg. Arsenal is the original Roy Harper who was frozen by Lex Luthor. And then the clone went on to become Red Arrow.
Starting point is 01:52:12 But because of the freezing, I guess he lost his arm or something. So they gave him a robot arm, which could shoot lasers. And I was watching that and I'm like, it's just some kid with a gun. Like, could you imagine if like, we're superheroes and it was just teenagers with guns?
Starting point is 01:52:24 Like we would think that's really messed up. Yeah, I liked Cable, you know, from X-Force. Oh, he's cool. He just had a big rifle, but he also had cyber kinetic powers. Could he absorb energy
Starting point is 01:52:33 or no? He didn't, did he? I don't think he, no. What was his power? He was psychokinetic. He could move stuff with his mind. Really?
Starting point is 01:52:40 I think that's it, yeah. Do you know one of the things when you have kids now, one of the things you have to tell them is not to make any jokes about school shootings. Or kids with guns. Don't eat a Pop-Tart into the shape of a gun.
Starting point is 01:52:50 You'll get arrested. Or draw one. Yeah, we talk about that. Wow, that's crazy. When I was a kid and the teacher was talking, I'd be drawing little doodles of stick figures fighting and firing guns at each other and flamethrowers fighting dragons. Now you'll just get kicked out of school.
Starting point is 01:53:05 You'll go to jail. You'll go to jail. Literally. You're under arrest, son. I'm seven. You want to go to the museum without your vax pass? Jail. Put a Hannibal Lecker mask on your face. Do you know what it's resulted in, though? My son and his friends joke about how frying pans are actually the best weapons.
Starting point is 01:53:22 Wow. Okay. Alright, Caleb says, yo, I would love to smoke a fatty with Ian and just ask him random theological questions and let him go. It would be like winding up the symbols monkey and let home bang away at the strange. And I'm sorry if I'm doing it and I'm not listening to you for a second. It's tough to channel your feelings and your thoughts and still listen to your environment, but that you can master the two of them together or like impulsively happening back and forth really quickly. You know, it's like playing in a band with someone.
Starting point is 01:53:51 You want to take control and speak the truth, but also be listening to their truth and make it blend. So let's do that. All right. Hi, I'm a fatty. It's do that. All right. Hi, I'm a fatty. It's a date. First, Thessalonians says, the Bible foretells of the new world order in Daniel chapter two and seven, 12, Revelation 13.
Starting point is 01:54:13 If it was right about the technocratic takeover of humanity, it is for sure right about Jesus Christ. I will say, man, when I learned about the mark of the beast, in order to buy, sell, or trade, you need the mark of the beast. Someone super chatted that to us, and I was like, there's no way it's that specific. That's crazy. And then I looked, and I was like, whoa, that's true.
Starting point is 01:54:34 That's crazy that it says that, man. Because that's basically what was happening. What if it's all true? Do you guys think it's true? Do you think it's true? The whole Bible? Revelation? Revelations?
Starting point is 01:54:43 Revelations. Or is it Revelation? No S. Just Revelation? Revelation. Yeah. So I was looking at a passage last night and I think that people wildly misinterpret Revelation, including Christians. So I don't think there's any kind of consensus on that book.
Starting point is 01:54:58 It is crazy. It reads a little bit like a drug-fueled dream. It does. So I don't think that we're going to understand it until, you know, maybe until we go to heaven or something. I don't know. Until're going to understand it until, you know, maybe until we go to heaven or something. I don't know. Until after it happens, you can go, oh, there it was. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:55:09 Because otherwise, people are like, could it be? I don't know. A lot of people were saying that like some alignment in the sky was like some reference that was happening or something. Just kind of suits their interpretation at this point. John says, shout out to my girl Libby. Admire your faith. You are a class act.
Starting point is 01:55:24 Aw, thanks. There you go. She's a classy broad. Aw, thanks. There you go. She's a classy broad. Did you guys see that Joe Rogan had Robert Epstein on his show? No. Yeah, he's the guy who talks about how Google manipulates the system and can change votes. Oh my gosh. So the one free man says Robert Epstein didn't kill himself. Oh gosh.
Starting point is 01:55:41 Wow. I don't know if you can make those shirts just yet, Luke. Hold on to that thought hopefully you never have to to be honest yeah that's a scary thought david says did you hear aaron rogers call out biden and his super duper 81 million votes and how biden called him out on getting vaxxed on espn today uh there was some like statement by aaron rogers was amazing he was like talking about censorship. Did you guys see that? Yeah, he was just like,
Starting point is 01:56:08 when are the people censoring information and trying to restrict thought? The good guys. They're not. Yeah, they're never the good guys. He's been on fire. That's a good statement. When you get personally bitten by the situation, by the narrative,
Starting point is 01:56:17 you come roaring back. That's why Joe Rogan, I think that CNN horse dewormer thing, I think that really kind of lit a fire under him. You know what's interesting though? I don't know if it's interesting, but we don't see a lot of women doing this. Speaking out, fighting back, pushing back against Hollywood, against these woke narratives. J.K. Rowling is just by standing tall.
Starting point is 01:56:37 Yeah, I mean, by standing her ground, she has for sure. It's huge, I agree. That's true. But shout out to Aaron Rodgers and also Kyrie Irving. I usually have their jerseys behind me. And both of them have been really amazing. And I'm going to get a Meat Loaf poster. Yeah?
Starting point is 01:56:52 I'm going to get a big Meat Loaf poster. Yeah. So when I heard the news, I posted the song Kickapoo from Tenacious D, which is a great song. It's a hilarious movie. You guys know this one. Meat Loaf sings along with Jack Black. Love that movie, man. And Meat Loaf was a good dude he believed in freedom much respect so we'll uh
Starting point is 01:57:11 we'll get a poster for him up here john says my dad thinks you're a grifter and puts you with hendy and tucker it's a shame he did finally admit fauci is corrupt and needs to go though uh i'm not the biggest fan of Hannity. I don't think so. You know, Hannity to me feels canned. I don't know if grifter is the right word. Tucker, I think is legit. I think Tucker believes what he believes. And the reason I think that is because his opinions have changed.
Starting point is 01:57:33 He's admitted he was wrong about a lot of things. He has no reason to do that unless I guess he's grifting or whatever, but I don't see it. He's actually gone further than I would expect him to based on a lot of things he said. And he's also resisted saying some things that could have made him money. I think Tucker legitimately started talking to people and had some political changes. As for me, it's funny because my politics are like the same for the most part except for the Second Amendment. The people who've followed me for the past 10 years or whatever are like, he just says a lot of the same stuff over and over again. It's boring.
Starting point is 01:58:01 But for people who don't watch it, they're like, someone on the left said you're a grifter, so it must be true. So your view on the Second Amendment has changed? Yeah, I used to be kind of like, you know, people should have rights to have guns, but I think there's like a discussion
Starting point is 01:58:13 we can have about, you know, gun ownership and what makes sense. And now you're like, fuck no. Yeah, I used to be like, well, it's not a big... No, I used to be like, maybe there's insurance, you know, would make sense.
Starting point is 01:58:22 Maybe that could help people. And then I had a few conversations and then my point my view basically became well the constitution says it so if you want to change it change the constitution yeah if that that being said then there should be no nfa there should be no etf there should be none of these things it just feels like the democrats and the anti-gun people the authoritarians it's basically the authoritarians if you want to take guns away you're just a crackpot despot. That's it.
Starting point is 01:58:47 Anybody who believes in freedom is going to be like, you should have a right to have a gun. I think that tabletop fusion is like here, and they're afraid to give people that power. It's like giving them a rocket launcher. But it's so easy to fuse hydrogen with a palladium substrate, heavy hydrogen, deuterium. They're doing it.
Starting point is 01:59:02 They do it experimentally, but it produces so much energy. You ever hear about that dude who made a death late a radioactive death laser in his garage no he was taking the um what is it called americium is that how i pronounce it no the element look it up for me i don't pronounce it you take it out of smoke he was taking out of smoke detectors i guess it's radioactive and then he made a gigantic critical mass with like tens of thousands or something like that and then the feds dropped in on him immediately and arrested him. But apparently they gave him – I read the story. They gave him a chance to work with the government.
Starting point is 01:59:33 Like if you want to do this, we'll put you in a lab. We'll fund everything you do. But the dude was crazy. And so he went out and started trying to make a radioactive critical mass. And he was like covered in lesions. You can't – ladies and gentlemen, read the story, avoid that stuff. David Hahn? Was that his name? Is that who? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:59:49 A guy who diligently amassed radioactive material by collecting small amounts from household products? That makes sense. Something I read somewhere. This is Americium. Americium or something. 241 is used as a radionuclide in this type of smoke detector. Is it on your periodic table of the elements? It's number 241, used as a radionuclide in this type of smoke detector. Is it on your
Starting point is 02:00:06 periodic table of the elements? Number 241, is that right? I think it's a synthetic. Well, you have it right there. Placed between two electrically charged plates. So there's nuclear. Yeah, apparently he put them all, he mashed this critical mass into some kind of metal box or lead box that had
Starting point is 02:00:22 a hole in it so it was all focused. And then they like, they knew he did it so it was all focused and then they like gosh they knew he did it as soon as he did it and they like stormed it like what are you doing you insane like you say the people that are hiding the information are not and are never the good guys but i wonder like if someone came out and was like oh and by the way if you want to create world ending explosives here's how like that wouldn't be a good guy either necessarily aren't the blueprints for like nuclear bombs on the internet like can't you just read it in university it's just you don't have the infrastructure to build something like that yeah but this guy's apparently crazy yeah anyway that was fun um hey
Starting point is 02:00:54 man thanks for hanging on this crazy friday night we kind of went all over the place but i think it was worth it so go to timcast.com be a member support our work we we rely on your support we are not principally funded by ads as much as some of the activists lie about we're actually funded by you guys this makes everything operate so we really support we require uh we we appreciate your support at the website smash the like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends you can follow us at timcast irl basically everywhere you can follow me at timcast and uh do you want to shout anything out christian yeah my new book is virtue bombs Bombs, How Hollywood Got Woke
Starting point is 02:01:25 and Lost Its Soul. Where can they get it? Everywhere. Amazon, you name it. Oh, right on. You have a social media at all or anything? Yeah, I'm at
Starting point is 02:01:31 Hollywood in Toto on Twitter and my podcast is right on Hollywood. Right on. You want to shout anything out, Libby? Yeah, I'm Libby Emmons.
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Starting point is 02:01:51 at Libby Emmons. So I have my own media organization called We Are Change. You can watch my videos on youtube.com forward slash wearechange. I also have a lot of pretty exciting, weird, unusual things going on on lukeuncensored.com and it's going to be hard to leave, but you know, deep down I am a lot of pretty exciting, weird, unusual things going on on lukeuncensored.com. And it's going to be hard to leave, but deep down I am a Polish Florida man.
Starting point is 02:02:10 And never forget freedom. Someone said this before. I forgot exactly who, but freedom is the oxygen of the soul. So thanks for having me. I'm going to miss you, Luke. It's been fun the last few months, last year, whatever it's been. But I know you're going to make Florida great. So I'm glad you're going. And I'll see you soon. Bye, everyone. I'm Ian Crossland. Check me out at iancrossland.net. But I know you're going to make Florida great. So I'm glad you're going.
Starting point is 02:02:25 And I'll see you soon. Bye, everyone. I'm Ian Crossland. Check me out at iancrossland.net. I'll see you later. I had fun on this last show with Luke talking about everything from Caligula's horse. Well, my truck may break down, by the way.
Starting point is 02:02:36 If my truck breaks down, I'm going to be here for a few more days. But there's other situations. Practically, I hope you never know what RV life is. Well, we hope that Luke's able to make it down to Florida because that's where he really wants to be. Trying to get rid of me, Linda? Yeah, you know, just a little. No, I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 02:02:52 Anyway, you guys can follow me on Twitter at Sour Patchlets. We will see you all. Well, we'll see you in the Cast Castle vlog at youtube.com slash castcastletomorrow because we have an episode up every single day. Other than that, we'll be back on Monday. Thanks for hanging out. Bye, guys.

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