Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #454 - Alex Jones Testifies Before Jan 6th Committee Pleads 5th Over 100 Times w/Curtis Houck

Episode Date: January 26, 2022

Tim, Ian, and Lydia join Curtis Houck of Newsbusters.org to break down Alex Jones' pleading the 5th - and having his text messages seized, the majority of all voters agreeing with President Trump that the media is, in fact, the enemy of the people, Neil Young's Spotify ultimatum and attempted power play to cancel Joe Rogan, Brian Stelter's ridiculous analysis of the Peter Doocy/Joe Biden dust-up, and the woman who saw a truck full of escaped monkeys and decided the best course of action was for her to try to pet them, with predictable results. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Alex Jones testified before the January 6th committee, and he said that he pleaded to the fifth over 100 times. Interestingly, he said that some of the questions were actually kind of reasonable, but the scary thing here is that they had all of his text messages. So when someone comes to you and they say, use Signal or use a VPN, and you think they're being paranoid, let me just remind you that Adam Schiff released an American journalist's private phone records. Alex Jones's private text messages were in the hands of these members of Congress, the January 6th committee. They know what you're saying and who you're saying it to. Well, now many on the left are saying Alex Jones pleading the fifth is proof he's guilty because they don't know how rights work.

But yeah, we'll get into all that stuff. We got Joe Biden pulling back officially and formally on the vaccine mandate because they have lost. Ron DeSantis is pissed off that the FDA has ended monoclonal antibodies, at least two of them. And we got this poll out of Rasmussen showing that most of this country thinks the press is the enemy of the people. I'm not surprised. Joining us to talk about that is Curtis Houck. Yeah, thanks for having me. Who are you, good sir?

I'm the managing editor of Newsbusters, the main division of the Media Research Center. We've been around since 1987, and we watch the fake news so you don't have to. We watch Joy Reid, the White House press briefing, CNN. We're like the five people that actually watch CNN. We watch Joe and Mika cringe. Sounds painful. Yeah, it is. Some days I'm just wondering, do i actually do that how do i stay sane um lots of coffee and other other other beverages other substances yes um and other hobbies um but so you guys you know when rasmussen comes out with

this poll showing i think it's like what 58 percent of voters think the press the president of the people this includes us to a small degree a small degree, but many Democrat voters. You're, you're in the thick of it. You, you watch this all day, every day. Like, you know, all of the BS being pumped out by these, these fake news institutions. Yeah. And, and the poll is really interesting because no matter which way you slice it, the only group that doesn't view the media as the enemy of the people is the Democrats, and it's only 37%. And you look down, break it down among racial groups, it's whites 56%, African-Americans 63%, and everyone else 60%. So black people in this country actually hate the media more than white people. Yeah. That was maybe the most astounding number in all of this poll. I'm not surprised you

see this particular community distrusting of institutions. But we'll get into all that stuff. So I think it's going to be excellent to talk to you. We got Ian hanging out. Yeah, I want to know how you manage it. Ian Crossland, everybody. What's up? Good to see you. I'm also in awe of Curtis. I don't like the

concept of watching these people on TV. The tweets are enough for me. I like to watch videos on mute and I don't want to hear their voices. So more power to you. I'm very happy you do it. Yeah, that's why I tweet all those videos. That's probably how some of you have seen me before, that I'm the guy that tweets all those videos out. So you don't have to

in a nice one minute, two minute digestible portion. Did you see Whoopi Goldberg accidentally claim the vaccines were killing kids? Oh, no. She misspoke. I think it's fair to say. Yeah. The problem is when it comes to like the fact checkers and like media matters, they wouldn't give anyone the benefit of the doubt if they misspoke and said the wrong word.

But we're all expected to give her the benefit of the doubt. Right. Yeah. Because it's Whoopi Goldberg. I mean. Okay, Guinan. All right. Anyway, before we get started, my friends, head over to TimCast.com, become a member

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Then he revealed what they asked him on his broadcast. So this is Politico's Congress Minutes, and they actually break down a bit of what Alex Jones has said. They say, here's the rundown from Jones, who called the committee's questions overall pretty reasonable. Some of these things are very interesting. Jones said the January 6th committee seemed to have a lot of detailed information about him, that they displayed images of text messages he had with Wren and Cindy Chaffian, who organized a pro-Trump rally

on January 5th. Both Wren and Chaffian had been subpoenaed by the committee last fall. Jones said he started to have doubts about leading a march to the Capitol when he saw the unwieldy crowd that had formed at Trump's Ellipse speech. Quote, you know, maybe we just won't do it, he said. He said he thought to himself. He said he continued, however, when Secret Service agents came and opened up the gate after he arrived at the Capitol and witnessed some of the ongoing mayhem. Jones was seen on video repeatedly attempting to steer the crowd away from police lines. No, no, no, Politico. You need to be more direct and more honest than that. Alex Jones is on video telling people to avoid the Capitol and not to go in because it's a trick and it's a trap

and said, I want you to do. Jones was actively bullhorning to de-escalate and get people away from the Capitol. That would be very important to include, but they did not. Jones said the committee asked about his contacts with Proud Boys. He said that he aided a Hooters in Atlanta with some members. He said he didn't use Proud Boys or Oath Keepers as security. He used a prominent company. He said that January 6th, he relied on a prominent Austin-based security firm. He said the committee suggested they routinely monitor his show.

He denied being aware of a December 31st broadcast in which his substitute host, Matthew Bracken, specifically suggested storming the Capitol. Wow, that's crazy. Jones also acknowledged that his co-host, Owen Schroyer, who has been charged for egging on the crowd in the restricted area of the Capitol, was facing prosecution. Jones said the charges were for a bunch of stuff he didn't do, and he falsely said Schroyer is facing years in prison. I think it's fair to say incorrectly, falsely kind of implies he was intentionally wrong. The misdemeanor charge against Schroyer carry a maximum six-month sentence.

So I'll tell you right away, the crazy thing about this is that they've got his texts. That's creepy. But obvious, right? The government's got your private information. They know what you do on your phone in your private time. And if you're not using a VPN, you're not using a signal for encrypted stuff, just, you know, Adam Schiff, he knows everything.

You know what's funny? I'm sorry, real quick. Just Mark Zuckerberg knows when you poop. I'm willing to bet for a lot of you guys out there, Adam Schiff knows when you poop too. Oh, gosh. And he's going to tell Nicole Wallace about it too. Oh, yeah. He's going to go on MSNBC.

He'll link to his friends at the Washington Post, the New York Times. You know, there's no end for Adam Schiff here. He's going to hold up an envelope and be like, I documents about what time alex jones was pooping i think one of the things that bothers me here is um okay you hear this like they can spy on you they can read your text messages they have total oversight control i hear that a lot it's not until it becomes personal and it actually happens to you that it's like whoa sound the alarm this isn't right yeah you have this happen with crime in major cities right now. You have CNN questioning whether that actually is happening. Brian Stelter did a segment on a show on Sunday. It's very similar in that they'll mock, the media will mock anything and everything that's happening to everyone else in the country because it's not happening to them.

They feel safe in their homes. They feel like their privacy is being protected until something happens to them. And then it's all bets off. And you would think they would change their minds, but in many cases, it doesn't. Do you see that story from Sanjay Gupta where he wrote about going on Joe Rogan's podcast and he said that he was scared that Joe was going to jump the table and throttle his neck? Right. He goes in with these incredibly unreasonable expectations. It's probably because it's what Jeff Zucker and Jake Tapper and Brian Stelter told him is going to happen.

They painted this caricature. And this goes to the larger point of anybody who doesn't, you know, toe the line as part of that corporate machine, they think you're this crazy person, and they view us like zoo animals, almost, that we can just tap on the glass

almost our friend seamus over at freedom tunes made it one of the funniest videos ever done is about the joe rogan sanjay gupta thing and he just plays some audio of joe rogan talking and he's like don't you think it's dangerous when a media company lies and then it just so shows sanjay gupta going but then but then it then he's then it shows you know joe again and he goes don't then he then he specifically mentions cnn this massive media company and then it shows this fake like cnn with two anchors screaming and crying like and it's like it says in the chiron joe rogan attacks media yeah that's that's that's literally what it is right and this is the problem that we've had for the last however many years, which is people would say at a Trump rally, you suck.

And guess what? It's treated like a death threat. The First Amendment, they believe, only applies to them, not the rest of us because it's too dangerous for anyone else to have speech. This is the crazy thing about Alex Jones. I'm going to say one of the most – I'm going to trigger the establishment press. I am going to trigger all of the left with the following four words. Alex Jones, I'm sorry, is it technically five because of the A? Alex Jones is a journalist. Oh no. Oh, their heads are rolling. I remember a few years ago I said that InfoWars was kind of like a right wing Huffington Post.

But it was it was in a specific context where I was saying that in the election cycle, you know, with Donald Trump, InfoWars was trying very much to be more mainstream and to speak to the MAGA crowd. And that as the Huffington Post does that for, you know, liberals, Alex Jones was very much trying to do that with Infowars.com. So whether you agree with Alex Jones, his political positions, his opinions, whether you believe him to be telling the truth or not is not relevant to the fact that he is a dude who collects and disseminates information. I got to be honest. I think sometimes he says really crazy things. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Often. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. But the reason I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I mean, often. Often. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.

But the reason I say he's a journalist is because he's afforded the same protections as any other member of the press. And while my opinion of him may be like, he's a pundit. He's a personality. On paper, legally, there should be no distinction between him, Don Lemon, or James Rosen. These are people who are speaking in the public about public policy and politics. The problem is these people at CNN and his other outlets, they basically gloat and laugh and mock Alex while he's getting his private text messages taken. I mean, this should be a Fourth Amendment violation. Right, exactly.

And I think, you know, they've done, they've been obsessing about this all afternoon. Since it came out that he testified before the committee, five MSNBC shows and four CNN shows have spent time talking about this versus really anything else that's going on in the world, really gloating about how many times he took the fifth. And it just shows what a crock also that this entire committee is. You can remove Alex Jones and replace him with really anyone that's going before this committee. And as you point out, you don't even have to like Alex Jones. He says a lot of crazy things, and it's pretty horrible some of the things that he said in my opinion but it just this story in particular just shows what a crock this entire thing is and how

it's really something for the benefit of cnn and msnbc green room oh definitely you know since trump left their ratings are in the gutter and i think any honest look, I'll say this of Brian Stelter. He deserves and should be afforded his right to speak. And if CNN wants to spend money to have this guy on the air to espouse his message, you're allowed to do it. There are a lot of people that I think are very, very evil. They put out fake news. They lie. They cheat.

They manipulate. And I'm sure a lot of people feel that way about Alex Jones. Now, for all the crazy things Alex has said, it's kind of scary when he gets things right and they're really weird things he gets right like when he told me about how we eat cloned beef and i'm like alex they're not cloning cows and he was like tim look it up and then i googled it and right there on the show i'm like he's right so it's like he knows his weird stuff that nobody believes and so my issue my thing is it's just you know i try to look at this as neutrally as possible. The government has the private text messages of a media personality.

They didn't file a subpoena against him to get it. They went straight to the phone companies and said, can we have it? And the phone companies just went, yep. So this is deeply troubling to me because I think that at an underlying level, it's because they're so smug about it because they assume that it will never, ever happen to them. I know that they're wrong. I know that the tables can turn, but they don't think it ever will. And I'm not convinced that with the turning of the political tide, it won't be them on the table. They don't want to set this precedent, but they're just gloating in it right now because they're so incredibly short-sighted.

They cannot think past stage one. It's ridiculous. Yeah. And the entire January 6th committee is, and again again is their golden calf they are obsessed with it for the anniversary cnn msnbc spent over 1600 minutes in one day talking about the first anniversary of january 6th first anniversary you know the candlelight vigil. Right. And they had a chorus on the steps of the Capitol that sang songs. They had this prayer service and all this stuff. I mean, so anything January 6th, they're going to drop.

It doesn't matter what's going on in the world right now. Weeks, months down the road, we could be in wars on two different fronts. And if something happens with January 6th, they're going to be like, hey, hold on. We got something. I think they're realizing, though. I mean, I think the Democratic establishment is stuck and there's nothing they can do because they've just they've they've made it their their whole, you know, like the whole party message. But when you see like Barry Weiss on Bill vilmar and they're all of a sudden just saying

like right-wing tribal talking points i'm just like ah here it is they're jumping off the ship they know it's sinking they're realizing what's going on i do want to point out that was really funny a second ago when we were when i mentioned the the candlelight vigil and then cars are talking ian's face just went like he had the strange it was so hunger games dude did they have big wigs on and a bunch of makeup they were all wearing like black and holding candles ian's face was like and then cnn set up this like statue in statuary hall they set up this like you know raised stage in the middle uh for their like two-hour primetime event with jake t Tapper and Anderson Cooper to speak in hushed tones.

Of course. Yes. I mean, it's like we're just checking the boxes here. If I was playing a game of like civilization and I was the leader of this country, that would be like use propaganda. If you chose to do that, you'd pick like some little thing and make a big production out of it over and over again. And you're just trying to manipulate and hope they don't figure out that you're trying to

manipulate them. We got social media these days. You know, if this was 30 years ago, Alex Jones is not a guy they'd want to put on TV. They wouldn't want to give him a chance to actually defend himself or speak up. And they don't. I mean, these mainstream media companies, they don't want him on. They want to be able to control the narrative. They want to keep all these Democrats wrapped up in their bubble in this cult, believing

whatever it is they say. And they live in this crazy world where they think Alex Jones is this evil boogeyman or people like James O'Keefe. The first time I met Alex Jones, we came on the show. He told me he saw one of my videos where Alex went to the grocery store and people were screaming at him. And then I was just like, that's so insane, dude, to see this guy buying milk and just start screaming at him. And Alex is probably like, I'm just buying milk. But Alex was like, that's so insane dude to like see this guy buying milk and just start screaming at him and alex is probably like i'm just buying milk but alex was like that's exactly what it is like i don't even know who you are like leave me alone i'm just buying milk man and you see how much that's grown with people being harassed in public places you know and not just alex jones now yeah you see that video we talked about the other day where these this black dude gets in an elevator

and these two white liberal women go in and they're screaming at him to get out because he's not wearing a mask and they're filming each other. Like then the women hit the black dude and then he's like, you hit me. And then she goes, Black Lives Matter. Black Lives Matter. Like, what? Dude, we're losing our minds, man. Right. That's why, yes, Libs of TikTok might be one of my favorite accounts on all of social media.

It is endless laughs. Yeah. So while you're, you know, at Newsbusters and you're tracking the mainstream corporate press, you got libs of TikTok on Twitter, tracking TikTok, posting all of that absolute insanity. I got to say, though, if you're not familiar with libs of TikTok, definitely follow them on Twitter because, well, it is confirmation bias it is politically affirming but i also want to warn it is severely depressing it may entertain you for a while but

after like the 50th video of this stuff you're just like i think the world is ending right you can always skip remember that when you're yeah sweet meteor of death let's go yeah seriously man let's talk about this Rasmussen thing. Check this out. So we have this poll from Rasmussen Reports. Do you agree or disagree with this statement? The media are truly the enemy of the people. Agree.

White people, 56%. Black people, 63%. Other non-white, 60%. This is good. Look at this. Democrats, 37%. I got to be honest. 37% of Democrats saying the media is the enemy of the people.

That's not bad. I thought it would be less than that. Unaffiliated, 61%. Those are the voters the GOP needs. The GOP is 76%. But here's the biggest one. Among all voters, 58% of people think the media are the enemy of the people. Now, I think insofar as it pertains to the Democratic voter, it probably includes us

and Fox News and other channels to a certain degree. But let's be real. When people talk about the media, they're only ever referring to us if they're specifically addressing podcasts and independent channels and things like that so i gotta say man you know curtis you're somebody who who watches news all day every day i think most people who watch this show get it but i'm curious your thoughts and why it is that the majority of voters in this country at least according to this poll think the media are truly the enemy of the people.

Right. And the overarching point on this is it's all self-inflicted, entirely self-inflicted. I don't I and that's the biggest problem that I think a lot of these corporate media folks and organizations don't understand and they refuse to acknowledge. And if they do, they're continuing to lie lie which is they think that somehow we are responsible independent media non-profits conservatives you know just people that aren't part of their borg for lack of a better term yeah i'm part of the borg for lack of a better term but and they've made so many mistakes over the years and they're constantly saying that if they make a mistake we always correct it no no you didn't i mean how do you make up for thousands of minutes which we

cataloged on abc cbs and nbc looking at the russia investigation remember when cuomo pretended to be in quarantine yeah cuomo pretending to be in quarantine i mean you can look at big examples you can look at small examples and uh you go back to the bigger, more prominent ones of Dan Rather in 2004, making up things about George W. Bush's National Guard service. You can look at Jason Blair making up stories about the D.C. sniper case. And that doesn't even have to do with a regular political story. It's just journalism gone wrong. people making things up

uh freed zakaria he's a cnn host he's been caught multiple times plagiarizing wow really it doesn't matter brian williams obviously oh yeah it is another example so again this goes to this point of a refusal to acknowledge that the reason people think you are the enemy of the people is because of your own behavior. And then the other last point is just a complete detachment from what you're covering and how it's not what the people are looking for. So this seems together. And I think in this, all the points I've just made goes to the fact of whether you agree with the term or not. I think no matter what you think, you should be able to accept the fact that people feel this way and that the reasons for it are

totally valid. I've long thought, you know, how much easier would life be if I just made a Minecraft channel? And I'm only somewhat joking because I tell people, look, success comes from hard work and drive, passion. And there's a combination of other things, your abilities. You need some natural talent. But for the most part, I think hard work can bring perseverance, bring success. And I'm just like, if I allocated 16 hours a day into Minecraft videos or whatever video game, we're probably doing way better. But upon hearing this, I'm just like, man, if we on this show really were what the media tried to smear us as, grifters just pandering to an audience, we could be making so much money if

we went full MAGA or full anti-Trump. If we just played the dirty games and made up fake news like CNN does, we'd have all of the best thumbnails. I mean, to be honest, we have the Cast Castle vlog, right? And this is meant to be more comedic. It's meant to be silly. It's not news. It's semi-fictional. We had a bit where the last time Luke left the castle, he, like, the house blows up. Like, you know, just as a gag.

They're gags. But it's funny because when the videos are fictional, when they're specifically jokes. People like clicking them more. People like being entertained. So when we're producing a show that's not news, you can just easily see. You can just make up jokes that people will click. When it comes to news and we're trying to be as honest and frame things to the best of our abilities, it's hard to attract people with straightforward just like here's what happened. That's what I think CNN and other media outlets figured out a long, long time ago.

Everybody knows it. So these people who listen to CNN, who believe in these Democrat voters, and are told by the likes of Brian Stelter that Fox News is the evil propaganda, and Jake Tapper saying, don't read the WikiLeaks emails. You're not allowed. These are people who are, anybody who tells you not to read the news or watch other channels is trying to rip you off to make money off your ratings. And that's what Brian Stelter did. And I think we should be, and I should be clear too, that newsbusters, a lot of us on staff look at all kinds of media sources, not just for a living, but we want to know what everyone is

doing. We'll watch your show. We will watch the corporate media we will read the physical newspapers and print publications because we're old boomers like either literally either literally or at heart you know but uh in just the other week you had the president of nbc saying that we're ferociously defending the idea that it's possible to be objective and non-partisan our mission is to illuminate and not advocate what a joke that is yeah and and that's the kind of high-mindedness and just arrogance and i think that's the one of the biggest thing another one of the biggest things that people have problems with they have such arrogance uh you look at the jay tappers of the world, Brian Stelters, Joy Reid, Nicole Wallace, Rachel Maddow. They have such, you know, they think so highly of themselves.

They love smelling their own farts. I mean, we're rapidly approaching, if not already there in that territory with these people. It's pretty insidious, and yet somehow they continue to live in their bubbles. And yet they continue to be surprised when things happen and people vote for people other than their candidates. It's really weird that they're in this bubble and they've isolated themselves and they're rejecting people from it. It's like it kind of feels like they're trying to get

that last little drop of olive oil from the olive. Everybody's always like you got to get the extra, extra virgin olive oil because that's when they take the olive it's fresh and the oil comes right out and then like the regular stuff you get for the bargain bin price is when it's a dried withered husk and they're just squeezing whatever they can that's what the media is and the audience is that dried withered husk but there are people who still believe it you'd think after seven years of russia russia ian russia i was thinking it would be like that's just it was never true You'd think after seven years of Russia, Russia, Ian, Russia. I was thinking it would be like that's just it was never true.

Wake, wake. If Stelter came out and was like, ladies and gentlemen, the sky over Ireland is red. It would you'd have hundreds of thousands of people believe it just because Stelter said it. And then the next day they'd come out and they'd be like, correction, the sky was not red, but no one they wouldn't see it. And people would go on believing that the sky was red over ireland they wouldn't correct it some people like or whoever like um you know the independent or like i don't know random article like uh the hill come out and be like a correction that didn't was not actually read stelter was lying but though they wouldn't see that stuff they only watch stelter and yet what's interesting is that's what they project about people who don't follow them like conservatives libertarians uh that's what they say chris matthews memorably

i recall when i would watch his show before i had to watch jerry reed show um they replaced them um he had this thing that said trump's voters are the kind of people who if he told them yes the sky isn't blue people would believe them. If they're looking up movies to go see and they say, Trump tells them the movie's at six and it's actually at seven, the people would show up at six. It's a classic example of projection when that's actually how CNN viewers view themselves, that somehow they're still watching CNN and the rest of us have totally moved on. And they're just, the good news is

they're continuing to shrink. But yet that small segment that's still left continues to view us as dangerous people. Like to your point about Joe Rogan and Sanjay Gupta, he went in thinking he was about to get attacked. And it was perfectly fine. I talked to Joe about that when I went on the show. And he was just like, ah, he was just trying to be funny.

And I was like, oh, man, Joe, you're such a nice guy. Yeah, I'm like, is he, dude? Isn't it kind of – I'll say this. Joe's trying to be a nice guy. I think Joe genuinely wants people to kind of calm down and and and work things through but i'm like isn't it kind of dangerous when a media organization publishes a piece in which they entertain the possibility that joe would jump the table and throttle someone's neck even if it's supposed to be a joke like sanjay gupta is not a comedian you know so i have no problem with him being funny and trying

to make jokes i have no problem you know people get mad at me all the time because like i post nonsense on twitter and then when they're like people actually believe you when you say the stuff you know and i'll be like well that's their problem like if you were a comedian i'd understand and i'm like i don't care dude people can follow me so sanjay could be making a joke i totally get but the idea that the joke exists signals that there are people who genuinely fear this you know fear fear Joe and think him as some kind of bad person who would do something like that. You know what I mean? Yeah, and I would actually say something. It's arguably far more insidious that I think I can say definitively based on the people I know within the industry that there are good people at these networks that they know what they're doing is wrong and that it's a bit.

Bill Maher and that Barry Weiss thing, they know. Come on. They've known the whole time. They're criticizing the lockdowns and everything now, but there's no way Bill Maher and Barry Weiss didn't know what was going on. You know what I mean? Yeah, the apocalyptic images even, even if that that should have done it for them from the very beginning but what images were just like the empty stores you know empty streets you know just the idea of that you know that people just life came to a stop but but so

so you know these are these are public figures but imagine the staff that you know at real time with bill maher imagine the staff at cnn like you were saying like these are people figures, but imagine the staff at Real Time with Bill Maher. Imagine the staff at CNN like you were saying. These are people. They know what's going on the whole time. They don't speak out. They don't speak up. Yeah, and they know that people who disagree with them are capable of being good people. The people who are ideologically opposed to them are their family members, their neighbors, their spouses, in some cases, people that they

go to church with, people that they went to high school or college with. And that's what really gets me fired up, that these people go on television and they paint such a picture that they almost want to gaslight these people into thinking that, you know, your friend, your neighbor next door who doesn't vote straight D is some domestic terrorist. And it's so wrong. And yet Joy Reid and all the rest continue to pile on and no one says anything. You don't see CNN speaking up whenever something happens on MSNBC. You don't really hear that. It's just the gentleman's agreement between all of them that they're not going to criticize each other yeah it's funny too but you know their key demo ratings are below 100k so right so you know the relevance is i have an yeah interesting point to that that brianna keeler uh had her role they're rotating different

people to replace fredo cuomo at cnn show last week, through the first three days, I looked at Nielsen's numbers. She lost to shows like My 600-lb Life, People Puzzler on Game Show Network, Westerns such as Gunsmoke, Cheyenne, and, you know. Are these, like, particularly bad shows or something? Well, no. I mean, Andy Griffith's show, you know these like particularly bad shows or something well no i mean andy griffith show yeah you know really it spans the spectrum really a property brothers uh the chip and joanna gains channel uh magnolia network yeah a number of shows on there they got you were saying before they got jim acosta on cnn right now is that what it is yeah now it's

jim acosta and with brianna keeler they renamed the 9 p.m. hour Democracy in Peril. Democracy in Peril? Really? What are you talking about? Like, there's so many other things going on in the world, and yet you're catering to this small audience that, you know, whatever John Avalon, who does this reality check segment, or Mark Elias wants, saying this is such important work that every American needs to tune in.

You think Acosta is going to do well in the ratings? Well, the first day's numbers are in, and he was the second least watched show in all of CNN. New Day, which airs 6 to 9 a.m. Eastern, was the only show that Acosta beat in the day's ratings. Second least of all CNN shows. Of all CNN shows. Wow, that makes me feel pretty good, honestly.

I was worried. I'm like, he might actually pull in the views because he might get hate watch. Yeah, I mean, Greg Kelly with Newsmax was two-thirds of the way to Jim Acosta's viewership. Oh, man. Wow, on Newsmax. And Newsmax, didn't they get pulled

from a bunch of providers? Yeah, the LA Times has reported that that they weren't able to with so i believe three different cable providers and he still pulled in over over 350 000 viewers last night whereas acosta had 500 000 yeah but that was mostly old people wasn't it well i mean once you separate it out i mean that's true for a lot of them once you split out 25 to 54 demographics he's gonna for a lot of them. Once you split out the 25 to 54 demographic. He's going to have like 70,000 in the key demo. Exactly.

And that's what is it? 25 to 54? Yeah, 25 to 54. That means most of these people watching are in their late 50s. They're going to be aging out. Or 60 or 70, really. Many of them will retire. They'll still vote for the next 15, 20 years or whatever.

Well, I guess by life expectancy, we're talking about 15 to 17 years. Yeah, and we're at a point now where last year New Day and Brian Stelter were losing shows like Peppa the Pig, Paw Patrol. I mean, but come on. Paw Patrol is legit. Paw Patrol is. Firefighter dog. Yeah, you can actually learn things on that show. You actually learn things. Mo show. You actually learn things.

Moonshiners on Discovery Channel. That's fun, though. That's great. Oh, this says that CNN wants Jim Acosta as the host of Democracy in Peril. Is that right? Are you saying Brianna Keillor? Well, she had last week and Jim Acosta's on this week. Democracy in Peril.

Dude, that's real bad propaganda to put out to a country that might be struggling right now. And then, of course, yeah, and they put – I believe the way the color scheme works is blue. They put the Democrats in democracy. Then in is white, and then red is peril. To be fair, Ian, to be fair, Ian, we're just – nobody's watching it. Red, white, and blue, baby. Let's sell some tickets. It's a bunch of older people who are i love that meme the left is like fox news

just scares the elderly and i'm like maybe 20 or 30 years ago i don't know it's like that's all cnn does right now if you watch tucker what did you learn in the past week that m&ms aren't sexy anymore bravo tucker that was a ridiculous segment. I think it was very dumb. But it's not scaring old people. And Tucker's got massive youth key demo viewership. So Tucker talks about a wide range of things. He challenges the establishment. My personal opinion is I think when it comes to cable TV, Tucker's the best. Not that I think he's perfect and I don't think anybody is.

But I'm not a fan of – you know, I put it this way. Across the board with all of the cable TV stuff, Tucker is the only one who gets a C-plus for me and everyone else a D-minus or an F. He had Jimmy Dore on last week. That's awesome. And let Jimmy just explode in a rage of fire. It was amazing. And then at the end, he was like, Jimmy Dore, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, it's great. Jimmy doing what Jimmy does. And that's why in the people that are calling for censorship, when you guys have my colleague Dan Gaynor on, why I always say things like the internet and social media are net positive is because it allows this proliferation of all these different alternative forms of media.

Whereas before, you had three networks that had newscasts in the morning and in the evening, and they went off air overnight. They didn't even have things in primetime. They really didn't have capabilities to break in when there would be big stories at night or the middle of the afternoon. They really didn't have the same amount of resources, whereas now you have all these different options for all these niche kinds of topics you know, topics and, you know, advocating for all these different positions. And why would you want to get rid of that? Yeah. You're upset because you're losing control. And if you're somebody like Jeff Zucker, you know, you're not able to control America from

your little green room. You know, radio is still really popular, you know, because people drive their cars, people have some of the radio and, the radio. You've got satellite radio and people don't understand. It actually is fairly popular. You buy new cars these days. A lot of them come with satellite radio. So a lot of these older formats still exist in some form and they still have some kind of pull. about cnn's ratings being in the gutter but i i gotta be honest they youtube props them up youtube puts them on the front page so we we can be critical of them and say their medium is dying but they will be put on life support because that brand has has some kind of value you know when cnn launched what like the mid 80s initially it was just like what is this fly by night you know stupid cable trash but nowadays you've got you know i I was born in 86. So I grew up with CNN always being there. And that that that matters. It's legacy now to the younger generations. No matter what happens to their writing, someone's going to want that. And they'll try and put it wherever they can. But I do think CNN, like many companies will eventually just, you know, AOL used

to be the big game in media, or I'm sorry, an internet now it's gone. Facebook could potentially, you know, go that route. We don't know know a lot of companies that have been around since the early 1900s to change their name and they continue to exist cnn's owned by at&t so we may as well just call cnn at&t from now on well and they're about to be spun off to discovery and that's as in cnn's getting sold to discovery yes at&t is trying to they're offloading CNN. Oh, yeah. And they've been trying to offload DirecTV to offload them as well. And that's what's really interesting that I'm really – some people are holding out hope for in 2022 when Discovery more or less takes over if they're going to clean house one of their lead investors i think even somebody on their board was on cnbc a couple months ago and suggested that we need to get cnn back to the cnn that

people were called that they had fond memories of growing up you know i guess so primarily like gulf war age people that were watching cnn the early 90s, in the 80s, a little bit after it launched, once people realize what it actually is. But at that point, you've got a really clean house if you want to do that. The challenge is that straight news, dime a dozen. We've got so many people on the ground with cell phones filming and broadcasting that when it comes to straight reporting, it's fairly easy to get. Now, there are some things that we've seen at TimCast.com that are underserved certain areas. So March coverage, protests, and political action stuff often is extremely underreported. So you might get a reporter from a local news outlet will show up,

film a few segments, and then put like a 30-second package together. It doesn't really give you the actual view of what's going on. And that's something I got started doing. So we try to do that. We try to say, let's get someone on there. Let's do like a 20 to 30 minute actually talking to people and figure out if we can get a broad view of things. But for the most part, it's very, very difficult to monetize. It's very, very difficult to provide a service in an area where it's just satire with citizen

journalism. So you can see it. CNN tries to do documentary. They try to be like Vice. They get Reza aslan you know he ate human brain you're aware of that right yes and that was uh desperation that was desperation and spoiler alert it didn't work out for him that cnn one of the few times they've actually gotten rid of someone that was that was when cnn ran a show where a human ate another

human's brain and then that was that was all peace. That was too far for them that that we finally found out. Where's the line for CNN? Yeah, seriously. That's crazy. They were like, you know, I can only imagine the executives are like human eating human brain didn't work for us. Maybe we can accuse the president of being a Russian spy for five years, seven years.

Yeah, kind of work. And just roll with it. Yeah, problem solved. Yeah. That one's, technically, it's based in the realm of possibility. Like, you know, sure, the Russians exist. True, yes. Trump exists.

And Trump exists. And he called somebody once in Russia. They can just make up everything and roll with it and never correct. Just Mad Libs at this point. It's great, yeah. Mad Libs at this point. Mad Libs you love. And I think that's why people really dislike CNN in particular and the broadcast networks versus

say MSNBC or even Fox News because CNN passes itself off as based on nostalgia. They're hoping people continue to support them based on nostalgia and basic news of the who, what, where, when, why, and how. Proper context and perspective. That's what they're hoping people, you know, fall for. But you very quickly see,

even just on their chyrons alone, so you don't even have to have the sound on to know that it's a total joke and so i would say i'm more likely to be able to stomach msnbc than i am cnn just because you know what they're getting they're not trying to hide what they are and you know you just go from there let's let's talk about this joe rogan neil young thing i i feel bad joe i'm sorry that they constantly drag your name in this stuff but let's be real. I mean, Joe runs the biggest show when it comes to politics and culture probably in the world. It's the biggest podcast in the world. But in this space, he dominates.

And thus, he's always going to be – he's on top of the mountain. He's going to be the target of this stuff. And as we enter 2022, the midterm elections, it's critical for the establishment to push back on people like joe so we have this ridiculous story where neil young who is an aging rocker who is not relevant 76 has he sent a letter to his manager saying that either spotify removes joe rogan or removes all of his music apparently he deleted the letter and quickly backed down because spotify was like let me see here four of your songs have broken 100 million listens. And the fifth one is at 73.

It's Keep on Rocking in the Free World. Good song, by the way. Hey, I respect Neil Young for his music. But Joe Rogan gets 11 million every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. So four times a week. Yeah. In a month, he's going to be in a month, in two months, in three months, he's just massively outperforming what Neil Young could ever produce.

But this is the crazy thing. It's absolutely insane to me that you have these, the way I described it earlier, Neil Young's a protest guy. He's supposed to oppose the establishment. And here he is being like, we've got to protect CNN. We've got to protect the mainstream media. It's remarkable to me. You know what it says to me is that a lot of these people, you know, I mentioned Barry Weiss and Bill Maher. I keep doing it, and I probably should move on.

But these people know full well how bad the system was. They know people are suffering, but they don't care because it's their market. They're not willing to challenge the establishment until, you know, the polls shift in favor of I'm sorry, the polls shift against Joe Biden. Rasmussen comes out and says the average voter thinks the media is the enemy of the people. And all of a sudden they're like, actually, I've I've always agreed and I've always sided with the independent voices. I don't think schools should have been shut down at all. No. Yeah. You see what Bill Maher said when he was like, Fauci, you can't just tell us what to do in your lab coat.

It's like, wait, Bill, that was in November of 2020, Fauci said that. So they know full well. But I have this article here from CNN on purpose. I love CNN. You guys know that. It's Neil Young's free world, not Joe Rogan's. Remarkable. It's opinion by Jill.

What is it? Filipovich? Filipovich, yep. Filipovich. So she, what is this? Jill Filipovich is a journalist. Oh. Based in New York, the author of Okay, Boomer, Let's Talk, How My Generation Got Left Behind.

Is she a boomer? She basically writes about this, and it's funny because it's not Neil Young's world. He backed down. He lost. Joe Rogan's winning. You can't stop it. This is where we're at so neil retracted his uh he deleted the letter and his music is all still there oh i think he realized that he has no leverage i think i'm willing to bet he thought you know i'm famous i got big music i'll come out and i'll demand they ban joe rogan

for misinformation and then they will and Spotify was like shut up old man right like he didn't look at this ahead of time like someone told him there's this guy we gotta get rid of you gotta come out and threaten to take your music somewhere else you gotta choose you know and it didn't work out at all for them it flamed out and even just from the numbers perspective that you were talking about that's stunning those numbers i mean there is no argument there's no debate about that speaking of facts in truth that is a fact i bet he thought that a bunch of other musicians were going to step up with him and right yeah i'm signing that down that hundreds of thousands of millions of views let's take it off kind of thing right yeah he thought that he could somehow join forces with spotify employees that are triggered by alternative opinions from from joe rogan i'll

be honest i'm willing to bet joe hasn't even thought twice about any of this oh no but i like to believe that he's sitting there with his fingers crossed being like please spotify break my 100 million dollar contract oh yeah so that i can get paid out instantly and then host my show wherever i want well and i should point out about jill in the past she said uh during one of the presidential cycles that white men should not be allowed to run for office again among other things and jill should not be allowed to write for cnn again right and she's also recently talked about how a lot of these SCOTUS cases, the current Supreme Court is terrifying to her. So, yeah, I mean. Is she traumatized?

Is she traumatized? Does she need? Yeah. You saw when Brian Stelter was talking about that. She needs a snowflake. Journalists who got traumatized from January 6th. It's crazy to me that, you know, the way people feel. You know what?

The mainstream media is threatened by Joe. He's taken over. He's dominating the space. Long-form podcasts like his, like ours, are growing and growing and growing because they're more authentic. We have politicians on this show. It's very difficult for them to lie or weasel their way out of things. So we're going to have some politicians in the show. Yes, we are.

And I commend them for being brave enough to come on because I think, you know, we had Carrie Lake. Yeah. And Ian asked her about owning rocket launchers and DMT and like just like conversations. You know what? I can't stand. I can't stand when you're like watching Obama and they were doing this thing with him where he answered questions on Reddit or something.

And it's like very clearly they go and they pick 10 very clean and very basic questions to answer. No, no, no. I want Kerry to answer the question about owning a rocket launcher and DMT. Yeah, and psychedelics, man. The psychedelic thing is super important for our leaders to be talking about right now. You can look away from that as long as you want, but it's a huge part of humanity, and it needs to be addressed politically. Authenticity is what I'm saying. Yeah, and this goes to the other point that I see a lot with journalists, and we saw this a lot with Biden's press conference last week.

Journalists ask these such, I don't know, unimaginative questions. It's so pedantic after like five seconds, and a lot of it is questions that everyone knows the answer to biden has already stated his opinion about x jen saki has already stated her opinion about this but you know they want their soundbite and they want to ask the president for yet another time though the only point i will give them is no with joe biden who knows he may change his mind if you catch him at the right time and his brain is not properly wired for that day and his script is not up to date. You know what I just can't handle anymore is the PR responses we know are fake. The questions from journalists we know are fake.

I just don't understand how there was a generation of people, boomers and to a certain degree Gen X, who would like actually sit there attentive to a spokesman for an oil company after an oil spill when you know they're going to lie. When you know the questions are going to be boring, basic. Well, they do sponsor the shows. We've got to be very careful. But we do need to ask these questions. And I'm just like, why would i waste my time listening to that it's kind of like if you're in going for a family trip this metaphor came to my mind and you're sitting in the back seat you're a kid and your dad's driving but then all of a sudden in the middle of the trip your dad starts screaming at everyone in the car and you're like well

i have two options i can sit in the car and take it and then get to where i want to go this this joyous thing i was promised or i can get out of the car and try and find my own way halfway across the country as a nine-year-old. So these people watching the media are like on the ride. They've been sold an American dream, and they think that if they sit here and take it, they're going to get there. They're going to be taken to this promised land. That's not the way things work. They've been manipulated the whole time.

The guy who sat in his basement watching, as Ben Shapiro said, eating oatmeal and watching Matlock. You really think that guy was going to do it for you? It's really astounding. And they're flailing in the exact they're flailing because they don't have any. Joe Biden's not going to come to the rescue. Kamala Harris certainly isn't going to come to their rescue. If not, it would arguably be even worse, you know, and they don't have the orator that Barack Obama was to at least make them feel good. You know, I he was Barack Obama knew how to speak for sure. And he knew how to weasel weasel through questions and things like that. I will say that this administration is so insane that actually the questions to Jen Psaki are are great,

even as boring and as lame as they can be. Like when Biden recently said that he thought the midterm would be illegitimate, Jen Psaki's response is, actually, he was talking about Trump. He was criticizing Trump. You're like, dude, we heard what he said. You're just lying now, making the whole thing worse. But I'm glad she's lying because now it's becoming so obvious to everybody. These are canned responses with canned questions, and it is a waste of your time to pay attention to these people. Right, and that's one of my beats actually for Newsbusters. I watch Joy Reid's show, and I watch the White House press briefing,

and some of the questions are pretty boring and straightforward, but I have been surprised on certain days how, yeah, even basic questions that journalists ask elicit such horrible responses from Jen Psaki or whichever special guest that she has on, you know, especially somebody like Jake Sullivan or John Kerry. It is truly astounding how terrible it is. And journalists, I mean, you would say, oh, it's kind of just a whatever question, but it ends up sounding like an amazing question because their response is just so terrible to these questions. And they constantly have to clean up for themselves. So they're not even trying to set traps for them. It's not even a trap, and they're somehow falling in. I remember this moment when the Deepwater Horizon thing happened.

I was working for these nonprofits. There was this big oil spill. I was in LA at the time. And the response you get from these companies is just like, you learn nothing. They say nothing. It is as generic as generic can be. And they may as well have said,

they might as well have just said nothing because there was no point in issuing these canned responses. So we recently had the CEO of Getter on the show. And we were talking about how they banned this dude. And he't give me a straight answer and he kept talking in circles and finally i'm just like dude this is bs you know i actually swore at the time but we'll keep it family friendly today and i was just like i don't want to be involved in that kind of show i don't want to sit here and talk to people so that you know this is obviously why people like longer form podcasts that's why obviously why they like joe ro's show. I don't even think it's necessarily about Joe Rogan, to be completely honest.

I think he was first in and best dressed. And that helped him out. I mean, he's a famous comedian. He's a funny guy. That really works for him. He's clearly talented. But I think for the most part, it's he basically, you know, kickstarts this format of sitting down with prominent people in a raw scenario where they can't just avoid the questions because he's going to be like, I asked you a question, bro, give me an answer. Not always, but often because you're sitting here. You want to get up and leave in the middle of the

show? That'll look even worse. What are you going to do? In a segment like CNN where they gave you four minutes, it's really easy to pat her your way out of a hard question. The inflation is hitting. What will you do? Look, we got a lot of problems in this country that we're going to be dealing with. And I want, oh, we're out of time thanks for having me bye right and or they're on a panel with 10 other people yeah and that and so you get to speak once so all told by the time you add up the amount of speaking time you had maybe a minute if that and or you know or it becomes a shouting match where there's a ton of cross talk and nobody can understand what is being said.

I've gotten invited onto Fox News fairly often as of recent. And I was kind of like, sure, whatever, I guess. It's like a couple of minutes. And I was surprised how well those clips do on YouTube. I think getting like a million or something views on some of them. And then after a while, I was just like,

there's no point in trying to speed talk my way through a three minute segment. And I just do my show. And maybe it's good because a lot of people say like, you know, get as much airtime as possible, get on these shows. I don't know, man. It's just, I'm so sick of the inauthenticity,

just the fake, like pre-planned conversations. Here's what we're going to ask you about. Think about your answer. And it's just like i i don't know man i want i want real conversations i want to i want to know what's actually going on i think that's what people want to i think yeah i think people want and even some of us just want all of the above to be able to have that option to look at the digestible news that you can read for for example, takes you 10 minutes, or see a really quick YouTube story, or hear news and headlines on a SiriusXM channel, and also be able to have access to longer form conversations.

And it's possible because of the internet and social media. That's the reason this show is doing as well as it is and all their shows as well because people have a thirst for that they have a thirst for conversation uh and nuance and you know just all kinds of opinions let's let's hit a couple stories all at once we got this from newsbusters from brian stelter over at cnn peter ducey provoked biden fox worse for america america than sob insult so let's slow down so this is a story about uh it was peter ducey right yeah so he's he's a journalist and he asked biden on the way out of this conference or whatever this he was just like is is inflation a political liability joe biden not realizing that his mic was still on. He said he's like, you know, inflation.

What a great asset. Asset. What a stupid son of a bitch about Peter Doocy. Apparently, Doocy said that Biden called him and, you know, said it was nothing personal, pal or whatever. And, you know, effectively apologized. Fox was particularly gracious. They were like, OK, you know, we're over it. And now Brian Stelter is saying Doocyy provoked him it's because they have to yeah it's because they have to have the narrative of the enemy

these people are our enemy these people are evil and i'm just like this is exactly why the corporate press is aflame and spiraling out of control and it's in less than 12 hours that the narrative has changed last night in his newsletter with Oliver Darcy, faux former conservative reporter turned Brian Stelter mini-me, the two of them had a bit about this, and Stelter says, well, we're not really going to spend a lot of time on this because it's not worth our time and there's a lot more important things going on. Here's what happened. It's wrong. The end. And so in less than 12 hours, we've gone from that to they're doing multiple cnn segments about it and brian seltzer saying what ducey asked was a provocation even though jake tapper said on

jimmy kimmel last night that the question was fairly fairly erudite like it was do you believe that inflation is going to be a political liability for you with the midterms. I do think – That's it. I think – man, part of me wants to say it's a dumb question to ask because we all know the answer to it. Correct. Yeah. But it proved to be a very, very good question to ask. Right.

Well, and Ducey has explained this by saying that, okay, so it was a meeting of the White House Competition Council about the economy. And most of his cabinet was there. And he gave remarks about the economy. So then reporters started shouting him questions about ukraine and russia and he expressed annoyance at that that nobody was asking him questions about the economy so ducy is hey i've got you know are you taking questions about the economy and then he shouted his question about inflation so ducy was on topic what biden wanted to talk about and he gave that reaction. I kind of get it because if his question is like, hey, Biden, is inflation bad?

Like, it's like, are you are you insulting my intelligence, dude? Like, I get why Biden might have reacted like that. But this is a chance for Joe to come out and be like, hey, America, everybody, I'm sorry about the way I reacted. I'm under a lot of stress. This is unprecedented. What we're experiencing as a human race bear with me why is it that we can say that exact line in but they don't why is that we can be like yo just come out and be like let me just be honest with you guys so when we had the

ceo of getter on the show we then had the ceo of gab on the show and i think it was andrew torba he said if the ceo of getter came out and just like look we banned nick fuentes because we're under a lot of pressure from these big corporations who are trying to shut us down and we were effectively forced to do it and we're unhappy about it that's the reality of the situation people would have been like wow i think it sucks but i respect him for being honest instead he's just like now he broke the rules we banned him it's like he couldn't even answer the question i don't understand why it is that people can't just be completely straightforward hey we had to do this like we're we're hands our hands are tied and we we're It's like he couldn't even answer the question. I don't understand why it is that people can't just be completely straightforward. Hey, we had to do this.

Like our hands are tied and we're unhappy. You know what I mean? Yeah, and how relieved would Brian – everyone would be and then we could just move on if Brian Stelter just came out and said, I am a paid hack who Jeff Zucker tells me to wake up every day and talk about how Fox News is the enemy of the people. It would be totally fine. I understand why Brian stelter would never do anything like that and it's different from like you know ian saying biden could have been like you know he could have he could he can come out later and be like yeah i'm sorry for doing that snapping man i'm it's a stressful job you have to understand and just be like really straightforward the thing about brian stelter though is there's a difference between, you know, a president who's trying to maintain an image and a guy who's paid to maintain an image.

So, you know, look, Joe Biden's trying to save face. He may or may not come out and be honest about why he reacted that way. Brian Stelter was hired specifically to lie to people. So he would never be honest about his position because it would just completely upend his entire career. Well, and to your point about Joe, Joe could have framed it in a kind of a folksy way. He could have said, yeah, well, even though nothing personal, but he could have just said it and he could come out and said, yeah, I'm under a lot of stress. You know, this country's facing a lot of challenges, but we're going to get through it together.

You know, I ask for your prayers and support, you know, anything, anything. You ever see that movie with Robin Williams where he's basically like Jon Stewart running for president? What was that movie called? No, no, no. Man of the People or something? No, no. What was it called? You know what I'm talking about, right?

He's like, Robin Williams plays this comedian and then he announces he's going to run for president and then everyone, he starts winning. But then it turns out there was like a glitch in the system. Man of the Year. Man of the Year. It was actually kind of creepy propaganda if you watch it because it's basically at the time there was that joke about Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert running for president because everyone was really excited about it. Yeah, not Colbert, you know, but Jon Stewart's all right.

But everyone was really excited. And they make this movie where it's like Robin Williams is like, it was really bad that I would run and become president or whatever. But anyway, I bring up this movie because in it, the reason he does really well is because he's candid with people. He's honest, and he just says it, and he's sick and tired of the machine. Then there's also that movie Bullworth. You ever see Bullworth? No, I've heard of that, though. Bullworth, that's the movie where the guy, he's a senator, and he wants to kill himself. So he just starts – he hires an assassin to end his own life.

And so he's just like at these meetings and he's just saying everything exactly as everyone knows. He goes to a black church and they're like, last time you came and campaigned, you promised X, Y, and Z. Why didn't you fulfill those promises? And he's like, well, because you voted for us and you're not going to vote for anybody else. I mean, come on. Let's be real. Oh, my gosh. It's an amazing movie, but people, they end up loving him

and then he wants to live or whatever. But why is it that in our culture, we understand that we just are desperate for someone to be honest, to say the things we all know to be true, to finally admit it when you are lying, cheating and stealing. You know, like how many viewers does Brian Stelter get?

Seven? Like, let's be honest, 80,000 maybe? Yeah, he has on some Sundays pulled in in the demo about 80,000. 80,000? In the demo, yeah. Like, nobody is watching this guy. At a certain point, I have to have to wonder it's like why even bother it's like imagine building a bridge and then like the end of the bridge just goes straight into a

brick wall it's like why did you build that so why is he doing this show like it's just it's ridiculous i so i hear we are talking about the guy constantly i i just i'm i'm wondering when we're gonna break into that moment where i think think we're getting there with shows like Joe Rogan's show, with shows like this, where we just have an honest – and I don't mean like revealing secrets about military and stuff like that within reason. I mean like someone literally – like imagine if you got a government official and they were like, a video was released by Julian Assange showing a drone strike killing civilians. And he said, I wish I could tell all the American people every single thing that goes on. But there's a reason why we have confidential stuff. And there's a lot of really disgusting things the American military has done that I think if the American people found out about, they'd be very angry. But I also hope people realize that there are people who are trying their best to keep Americans safe.

And that means warfare is a gruesome bloody thing. Now, that's a hard sell for the American people. If the people knew how we were using white phosphorus in Fallujah in Iraq, how they were using it as an incandescent to light up the scenery, but what it's actually doing is melting human skin of the civilians on the ground that they're exploding it over. If people knew that we were melting the skin of the civilians in Iraq when we were there, it would have been a different narrative.

And if they found out today, I think it would be pretty jarring. But I'm saying like if a guy came out and said, here's why we can't talk about some of this stuff, because if you realized what we did in your name, this country probably couldn't survive. That this country is – we are wealthy. We are comfortable. And then you have to learn about the things that this country has done, and you're like, it's kind of disgusting. Obama killed kids, you know, a lot of them. And no American is going to vote in favor of that. So they try and keep it hush hush. I can understand when they're like, it's top secret, it's confidential. And, you know, we believe we're doing good. Personally, I don't think that's I think they're not doing good all the time. I think

there's a lot of corruption. I think they do weapons deals for the sake of weapons deals. But my point is more so like they come out and they say, freedom. It's evil people who hate freedom. And it's just like, shut up. Like there's oil fields in Syria. We understand why you don't want Trump pulling the troops out. Maybe I just overestimate the average person. The fact that there are Democrats who buy into all this stuff and keep believing it says a lot.

But maybe maybe that's breaking. Maybe maybe it's breaking. It's slowly but surely, I think, you know, especially now that Trump, you know, is not in the Oval Office. He's not president. It's like sitting there. Joe Biden is at the lever here that he's the president and he's running the show whether you like it or not and uh they have other they have to figure out other things and now that's why they continue to focus on things like january 6th so that trump is still a dominant

picture so we don't want to see what's going on over here with joe biden and i think enough people are starting to see through that that it's like and people as i've said before want all kinds of topics covered in their news coverage and they want their politicians to be very versatile and be able to answer these questions like you guys have talked about um that really span the spectrum instead of just go down these boilerplate things that i think people realize that we may have done this to ourselves, but that doesn't mean we can't find our way out of it. I think we're winning.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, the ratings collapse. The machine is desperately trying to prop up these shows. YouTube props up these big networks because they have to because they have this multi-billion dollar machine to propagandize and manipulate, and it's not working. You've got people in their bathrooms on their phones getting more views. Yeah, and the way you look at it is these – it's almost – it's this partnership with these networks that – what's to say if YouTube and these social media platforms didn't do what they said that there would be, you know, that we're going to report negatively on you the same, you know, you want us to go Fox News or, you know, the way other platforms did on, uh, you guys,

I don't think so. It's the symbiotic relationship where they think they need each other to survive. Um, yeah. And that, and that's why they're pushing all these you know new networks onto youtube and streaming platforms cnn plus are you kidding me um you know that they have lured away all of this talent chris wallace oh chris wallace jake tapper is going to do a book show interviewing authors um they hired a host from npr you know they hired rex chapman um It's tiring. It's tiring, but they're doing it because they are continuing to try and survive where they now entered this marketplace,

YouTube and social media platforms, so that they can push everyone else out. We need to talk about what really matters. And what really matters is that a truck carrying 100 lab monkeys crashed, some lady tried petting the monkey, and now she's got covid symptoms correlation is not causation so this is a hard segue off of the media into something

much more fun yes and potentially apocalyptic so uh this is the story you guys may have heard that a truck crashed in like near scranton and a hundred monkeys were on lab monkeys the monkeys are in high demand right now because they're doing covid research out of my guess it's what they report in the daily mail so a couple of the monkeys escaped some lady gets out of her car if the truck crashes she steps in monkey poop walks over to one of the cages it's busted open apparently and tries to pet the monkeys what was she thinking she wanted rabies what happened next oh yeah uh she's now sick well not with what she describes as covid symptoms she's saying she's got she's got covid symptoms Well, not shocking. With what she describes as COVID symptoms.

She's saying she's got COVID symptoms. She called it a day from hell. She's being quarantined. Apparently, they sent letters out to law enforcement who responded saying you've got to quarantine for like 31 days. Because there's like monkey diseases you could get. And they're also isolating the monkeys to figure out if they got diseases. Everybody's tweeting at me, you know, Planet of the Apes, 12 monkeys, and the movie and the movie outbreak because they're like this is how it happens so uh you know i think it's funny that we can joke about it like ha ha the monkey truck crashed and the lady got sick and it's just like you know what

if within like a month there's like you know 300 confirmed cases of monkey monkey covid or whatever and then we're like oh you know it's just 300 people in that area they've quarantined it and like a year later it's like covid you know covid 20 monkey syndrome is like going crazy what would you name the monkey variant the monkey variant that's what you'd call it bro you can call it the monkey variant i have to point out that this happened in my home state of pennsylvania uh up on i-80 in the middle of nowhere. This lady was driving along and saw the crash and, like, do not approach. Do not feed the animals. Like, do not congratulate.

Let me show you my tweeted. Holy-ish, it's happening. Someone, this guy Nico, responded with just a picture of Alex Jones leaning back with his hands in front of his mouth. Yeah, taking a deep breath. But I'm going to say this mostly as a joke but also just as an idea. This story is a little on the nose. It's like it's a lottery ticket in my opinion that a monkey truck crashes.

They're lab monkeys and a woman just happened to be following it gets out decides to to touch them try and touch the monkeys they hiss at her she gets sick and i'm like this is the perfect narrative for the start of a new variant you know what i mean we're just checking the box we're just checking the boxes here i mean this is i i still can't believe that this is real here's the crazy thing things to me is to me is that there's exactly 100 monkeys on the train, which maybe isn't that weird to people, but on the truck. Especially if it's like lab research that they, yeah, they wouldn't have like some. Why not 99?

62. Why not 101? People love those. They're so weird. Well, I mean, you know, 100 monkeys. Easier to categorize them. It's like a round number. 10, 10, and 10.

But here's the crazy thing, right? So when we were researching this story, I was like, let's try and pull up this article. And so I was looking at all these stories. None of them mentioned the woman is saying she has COVID symptoms except her on her Facebook post in the Daily Mail. The Daily Mail got it. When you pull up all of these stories on Google, they all just say she's got pink eye. She's got pink eye. That's it.

And then you take a look at the what she actually posted on facebook and she says the symptoms are covid symptoms like seriously a day from hell that's what she said why is the media not reporting that she has covid symptoms don't they like the fear don't they want the fear yeah exactly right and and what's to say it's not covid but the idea that she said it and put it out there and they don't want anything to do with it? I mean, it's pretty pathetic that you're willing to stoop down to, you know, you would think when you're putting together a news story about this insanity, you would think that you would want a post like a Facebook post where it's a good paragraph of her retelling of what happened, you would think that you would want to include that in your news reports. But why are they downplaying it?

That's what I don't understand. She said COVID symptoms, and we pulled up all these other stories, and it's like pink eye. She has pink eye. Exactly. They don't want to talk about it. Maybe they're afraid that it's going to be like she has COVID symptoms, and then she'll turn out to be like, actually, it turned out I just had the cold. Oh, but there's COVID systems, but it was a cold. I think they – I don't know what to think, to be completely honest.

This one's weird to me. The media would love to push a COVID scare narrative. I mean, they make money on it. Yeah, the permanent lockdowns, they have continuous stories day after day of people in hospitals, people dying. And it's very sad. I understand that. And these are people's loved ones. However, yeah, it is pure fear porn.

It's actual death. They're not pushing it. And they're not pushing it, whereas previously with Russia, it was this fear of something that really wasn't attached to people's lives. But now they have something that, you know, saying if you don't do as we say, you'll die. Right. Oh, the COVID stuff you mean? Yeah. Whereas COVID versus other things.

In her Facebook post, she specifically says symptoms are COVID systems. She said, I'm very low risk for I don't know what yet, but symptoms are COVID symptoms. I think that part of the problem here is that the media is this is a narrative they can't control. I think that's the reason that we can't find her Facebook post anywhere except the Daily Mail. I think that they're trying to get a hold of the story and try to see how they can spin it. I think it's too early for them to really have their actual narrative lined up perfectly yet. And I think, yeah,

if it turns out to not have been COVID, I would guarantee you they would backtrack and put it up. And saying, you know, she thought she, you know, Fallon thought she had COVID symptoms. Right. Yeah.

But she ended up not. Is she maybe saying something else? Like, what could that possibly mean other than, you know, that's the story. She's saying that she's got sick. They say in the title that she has a cough and pink eye. And then her Facebook post says symptoms are COVID symptoms. Saying that a cough is COVID symptoms is a little like. No, no, no, no, no, no.

They're saying when she said symptoms are COVID symptoms, they said a cough. They're saying it's a cough. She literally in the Facebook post they put from her, it says COVID symptoms. But like if you look at these Omicron COVID symptoms, I saw five of them. It's like runny nose, fever, fatigue. You're like, oh, okay. Those are also cold symptoms. So if she goes out and they go out and she says she might have COVID, she has COVID symptoms,

and it turns out she has a common cold, people would be like, uh. But she did have COVID symptoms. Plus pink eye so maybe maybe it wasn't you know i don't when you see that in china now there was a report i saw uh from one of the networks this morning they reported that in china now if you go into a drug store and you buy cough medicine like tylenol and the government will flag you and say that you have to go get COVID tested. Wow. That they notice that if you went into a drugstore and bought, and you went to the aisle and bought these specific medicines,

that everybody goes to a CVS or Walgreens nowadays to get, you know, Tylenol, you know, ibuprofen or cough syrup. The government will flag you and say, you need to go get COVID tested because you're buying these medications for symptoms that line up with COVID. I mean, it's one way to inflate the cases. But we're but, you know, we're going to send our athletes into this. I don't I don't know, you know, what will end up happening with the story.

I kind of feel like nothing. It's like the monkeys escaped. I think they killed them. They captured a couple and then killed one of them. Like the report that the monkey was seen in a tree and then several shots rang out you know people didn't watch what happened but you know it's like when they yeah it's like when you're like watching a movie and they take the animal off camera and then you hear a bang it's implied but i just want i just want to point out take a look at this picture right here

look look at look at homeboy one of the monkeys pictured was found in a tree and three shots were later heard wnep reported imagine being this dude right and you're you're you're you're born or bred or captured by these you know giant creatures who are poking you and prodding you and injecting you with stuff and then the ship they're on crashes and you get out and you're hiding just like terrified and desperate and they see you and they just kill you. Imagine if you were like born into a country and the social media networks were experimenting on you and your government was experimenting on you and then you tried to escape.

North Korea? I'm talking about the United States. You can escape the United States fairly easily. You can kind of escape. You can't escape the system, though. They don't want you off the grid. Yeah, man. You can't escape it.

So my thing is like I feel bad for this dude. Look at him, man. He's chilling. He's not doing anything anything look at us he's probably scared he's probably like i just want to be left alone so monkeys do they they cut yes you see they climb the trees and they're just chilling out they're living to try to live their best lives here that's brutal were these monkeys infected with something beforehand did they ever come out or was it or they're on their way to get tested on or they haven't said yet um what the article from the daily mail says is that monkeys are in high demand for COVID research to do experiments on them.

And that it's also true that monkeys can carry herpes B, which if infects a person, they get, you know, brain swelling and then die. Yeah, it's not the herpes B virus. It's extremely rare, but it can kill you if you don't get treated for it. And I think there's only been ever one case of it transmitting from person to person so it's like not that good at infecting humans but that's why they're scared about these monkeys

I just feel bad for the monkey bro who's like I am finally free and then he like climbs the tree and he's like looking around and then you shoot him it's like uh spoiler alert like Harrison Bergeron man that monkey had a Harrison Bergeron moment stepped out had a Harrison Bergeron moment stepped out into the freedom and tasted it for a moment

is that what happens at the end of Harrison Bergeron? they kill him? they do? no I thought it just ended it ends with the door getting kicked open and a bunch of people screaming and death I'm pretty sure I thought it was a short story

I'll look it up I think you were thinking of something else. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. I remember that not turning out so well for Harrison. No, Harrison. Oh, man. Or the monkey.

But yes, shout out to rural PA. Danville PA is where it took place. Great people in central Pennsylvania, but I don't know. I would not want to be living near there right now, but that's just me. I wonder what they were doing with these guys, these monkeys. Oh, definitely taking them to test on them for sure. Well, they're lab monkeys. Yeah, but like, were they doing COVID

research? Putting chemicals in their eyes? Imagine, yeah, one of the senators asking Fauci about this at the next year. Dr. Fauci, 100 monkeys. Well, you know Fauci runs that monkey island. Okay, I got it. That's a little hyperbolic. Fauci. A hundred monkeys. Well, you know Fauci runs that monkey island. Okay, that's a little hyperbolic. Fauci funded, through the NIAID, this monkey island thing.

They basically breed a bunch of monkeys in captivity to do torture, to experiment on. Maximum pain experiments. Yeah, and it's being called by activists maximum pain experiments, where they take the monkeys and try and make them feel as much pain as possible to see what they can tolerate before passing out or whatever. Yo, Fauci's got a track record for doing real messed up stuff. Yeah, and speaking of Tucker earlier, that's been something he's really been talking a lot about. He's had people from PETA on. When did you expect someone from PETA being on Fox News?

I think PETA's trash. That's true. When someone becomes science, it's no longer ethical. When the ethics are out the window, it's science first, ethics second. Like Fauci has actually declared he was the science. What a strange thing for a human to declare. That's like Nazi scientists, man. They would put the science first.

The ethics came second. Experimenting on a populace with a rushed vaccine is like, I get it. In an emergency, maybe there's precedent, but man, it is still an experimentation. Well, I think we were talking, who were we talking to? I think maybe it was Badia Angersargon. The vaccines that came out with Operation Warp Speed went through the clinical trials with people who volunteered for it. And even the right was very critical of parents who were offering up their kids to volunteer for the trials and stuff like that. So they went through their basic trials. And then we had a discussion about the Nuremberg Code because people were

saying that they're still doing long-term testing, which is happening now because typically it takes a long time. But by that standard, if that's experimental, everything is because they're constantly rolling out new treatments that they're then collecting data for long-term studies. Yeah, it's really like only the Tuskegee experiment. Things we hear about after a fact when things have gone wrong is when we really can look at it and say, well, that was a bad experiment. Which, if you recall, Joe Biden confused Tuskegee Airmen with the Tuskegee experiment. He talked about why African-Americans aren't getting vaccinated. He would refer to, oh, what happened to Tuskegee Airmen is a barrier for African-Americans to get vaccinated.

This stuff is draining. I know. It's draining. It's impressive that we talk about it every night. I think about that daily. When you guys are talking about examples inside the United States, you go to China, what the Soviets were doing. Yes, and Nazi Germany. That stuff, the depravity there.

You want to talk about honesty and things that people never want to talk about? How much have Americans benefited from the human experimentation of the Nazis and the Japanese people never want to talk about. How much have humans, how much have Americans benefited from the human experimentation of the Nazis and the Japanese? A lot. A great deal. That horrifying unit in Japan, 731. One of the stories I read is that they took people and they would

stick their arms out into sub-zero temperatures to watch what would happen to a person who was in between. And then they would shatter the arm once it froze to see what would happen. And because of that psychotic research, we were able to save tons of lives when it comes to frostbite. Wow. It's horrifying, isn't it? People need to have a dose of reality.

These monkey experiments are horrifying. The beagle experiments are horrifying. But sometimes we don't know what we're going to find when we do stupid things when we do crazy things so so you know my thing is like i'm not going to be naive and just outright be like we should ban all of this stuff because i'm like we do animal testing for medications before we put it on humans because we don't want humans to die and it sucks that animals die in the experimentation but what's the alternative don't have medical advancement don't do trials don't do experimentation i just looked up what has medicine learned from the Nazis. This is from The Guardian in the first sentences.

A lot. A lot. That's horrifying. Including x-rays. I mean, it just goes on and on and on. How are we supposed to advance medical technology if we don't do research? Experiment on ourselves? Yeah.

True. That's the history of medicine. Right to try legislation, I think, is a huge, huge opportunity in that you've got people who have nothing left to lose

who are like, yo, I'm dying. I need something. Let me try this experimental medication because I got nothing left to lose. I'm like that. I think Florida recently signed that legislation.

Ron DeSantis did. That's good. Trump was very much in favor of this, I think, too. Yeah. Before the show, we were talking about this who got uh the heart transplanted from a pig which was really interesting because they did a deep dive on him after the fact and they're like oh my gosh this guy had committed a bunch of terrible crimes and i was like it makes sense to me that they would experiment with this weird heart on a guy who had committed crimes it sounds terrible to say but then we got to talking about unit 731 i was like this is terrible but this is where we are this is how we've learned a lot of

the things we've learned it was a the meet the news cycle on this has been fascinating because the washington post had this glowing story because it happened up in baltimore and um and then it was probably maybe three days later it came out it was a story right on the front page and the whole thing is deconstructing what happened that this guy was in a fight i think in hagerstown got in a bar fight with somebody who uh was feeling up his wife and he stabbed him and left him paralyzed and he served years in prison whoa and so he was a you know thing for this and the entire piece is because he's still in the hospital and he's not really able to do interviews, needless to say. So his poor son has been left to have to talk about this and like, what do you have to say about this?

Does your dad really deserve – basically the post trying to argue, does your dad really deserve life? And it's a really sad question here. But obviously doctors are going to look really good if this ends up working. I think if people – I think I understand why there are certain people who want to keep the populace in the dark on a lot of issues because I think regular people don't want to acknowledge the great benefits they get the really awful things that anthony fauci has uh authorized have have i i don't know to what extent they've benefited us but it's it's not so much about what he specifically has done i think the gain of function stuff has kind of screwed us substantially but in general if the american people actually got an honest assessment of everything they've gained in exchange for the pain and

suffering caused by a lot of research and war, I really wonder what this country would be like. Because I remember saying this during 2015 when Hillary was running, and I would tell my friends, and I'd be like, do you like the way you live? Do you like your wealth American empire? Do you like the way you live? Do you like your wealth, American empire? Do you like traveling the world and having whatever you want? Vote for Hillary Clinton because she's going to maintain the status quo of the global elites in the war, the bombing, Syria, all that stuff. And you're going to benefit from it. Do you want to end that stuff? Do you want to try and pull it back?

Do you want to focus on this country? Vote for Donald Trump. But a lot of people didn't want to have that conversation. They don't want to acknowledge that the United States benefits greatly off of war for a variety of reasons. That, you know, when Donald Trump came out and said, he was talking about selling weapons to the Saudis, he said, it's going to be fantastic. All this money is going to be great for our economy.

Yup, it is. It's money coming. It's oil. So that's basically what's happening. We do a weapons deal with Saudi Arabia. We say, we've got all these weapons. We're going to sell you. You give us money. That money we use to's oil. So that's basically what's happening. We do a weapons deal with Saudi Arabia. We say we've got all these weapons. We're going to sell you. You give us money. That money we use to buy oil. And oil, free energy, means human beings have to do less work.

Greatly benefit from all of this nasty stuff. Are we buying the oil from the Saudis? It's a global market. So when they give us money, we can put it into the global market buying petroleum and stuff like that. Back from them and other people. Well, that's why I say basically we give them weapons for oil. Yeah. And then we have the petrodollar, which maintains the status quo.

But, yo, I really – part of me just wants to see how these urban liberals react to the reality. Oh, I've gone through this. If you exposed all humans to all human trauma at once, it would, I mean, it would obliterate the human mind. It might turn everyone into organic savages. I'm just saying,

give them what they want. But it might not. It might help us. Look at that dude. He's supposed to, he's trying to get a heart, right? But he's refusing to get vaccinated. So they're not,

they took him off the list. Yeah. How's that universal healthcare sounding now? So these people on the left, they're just, their attitude is, but vaccines are good. And I'm like, sure, okay. What happens when the government comes and says, we want you to undergo this treatment. Otherwise, you won't get your medical treatment and something you disagree with.

Don't give the government the authority to mandate that you get a medical treatment in exchange for life-saving treatment. That's why we always got to have private, private healthcare as an option. But I'm just saying all of these, these, you know, hippie, these leftists, these liberal types, I just, I long for the day they get everything they want in a sense. I really don't because, you know, it'd be chaos and everything would fall apart. But for them to just have that moment where they go, oh, now I get it. And then just to have that loss wash over them where all of a sudden they can't eat. They're struggling to live. Electricity is through the roof.

These people, you know, I found an interesting correlation between people who are socialist and an interesting overlap between people who are socialist and people who have never been to a socialist country. It seems to be the same group of people. Oh, my gosh. Going to Chile completely changed my worldview about policing and about socialization of police. They have just national police. It's completely socialized.

It was terrifying because you'd see feds on every street corner. You'd see just feds standing there with their guns and their uniforms. And it's like there's no one to protect you from the feds at that point. So you've got to kind of de-socialize law enforcement. I mean we have a sort of interwoven socialized system of layered socialism, system of socialism. So it's a little more – it's a little less like blanket socialism. Yeah, or if you go to like other countries like Cuba or countries, you know, former Soviet satellite countries, satellite republics I guess it was called. And the people that come to America, you know, again, Cubans, Venezuelans, they know their stuff. You know, they talk about love of freedom and the Constitution and, you know,

all the ideals that the left hates. I mean, I mean, they're so, I mean, they know. Well, another thing they say is that you can't lose the U.S. because this is the last place in the world like this. And I was going to say, too, that with the monoclonal antibodies things, one of the things that they're saying

when Jen Psaki was asked about it, she was like she was like oh well it's because vaccines work so you're telling me that um if you don't get a vaccine you also can have a monoclonal antibody that really sounds kind of punitive to me but that's what happens when you give the federal government that kind of power that's not something we should be trying to do at that level well let's take a we'll take a poll of the uh our friends here at the crew in the IRL studio. If you were to show your average urban liberal everything that was supporting their way of life from war, exploitation to experimentation, my opinion is that they would gladly accept it. If you went to them and said, here's how many kids were killed by Obama for you to get that cheap computer, they'd be like, agreed.

I'm happy with that. Do you guys agree with that? 100%. I think they would, especially the urban elites in the Washington area. You look at the wealth concentrated in D.C. that continued during the recession of 2008 2009 that continued with covid um the growth in defense contractors uh over the many decades

that are all based in the washington dc area um you know i you can go on and on and on and i truly think that's something i've learned from living here in the you're living in the dc area the last eight years that it's it's i i i've you know i've become more jaded but it but i have that yeah they would accept it here's my question for uh these democrat voters when they say you know i'm I'm voting Democrat for this reason, right? They want to tax the rich. Okay, here's my question. How many children are you willing to kill in order to get higher taxes on the rich? Is it one, two, three?

Just give me a number because Obama killed a bunch of kids. Obama killed an American citizen named Abdul Rahman Al-Awlaki in a drone strike on a civilian restaurant. I think he killed other people too. And the response, the official response was, oops, we were trying to get somebody else when we had that in afghanistan we i mean not an american system but we had that in afghanistan with a drone strike and the new york times released this huge report and it's like okay yeah how many kids are are you willing to have killed for you is another way to phrase it and then they might not say a lot they might be like oh i don't want to have any killed how many kids with parents who hate your freedom are you willing to have killed?

Oh, well now if they hate my freedom, that's dangerous. Now, they're going to be okay with the numbers. People are okay with numbers. I can deal with X and Y, but if you show them the image of the person being killed, it changes them. Yes, and this is because of the concept of bloody hands at arm's

length. If it's out of sight, it's out of mind. If you don't have to see it, you don't see the bombing in syria it doesn't bother you doesn't bother you people are jumping out of windows in china and i would just add i think i think that my point is especially true with people in washington i think you go to some liberals in other parts of the country um outside of maybe la and maybe new york city or chicago Chicago, you could probably change some minds. But in terms of the ruling elites, it'd be hard to change their minds. You get a bunch of people in public and you walk up to them and ask them, all of the benefits you receive with cheap gas, cheap products, international travel,

a strong passport, come at the expense of children dying. How many children are you willing to have killed in your name to live this way in public? They're going to be like, oh, that's really terrible. And none of us agree with that. But if you get someone truly, honestly in private, and it's most, I think, honestly, most people would be like, I don't want to have my TV shut off. I like all of the privileges and benefits that are afforded me. If you explain to people that slavery still exists today, that people who make your clothing and make your phones are effectively slaves, they'd shut up. I don't want to hear it. That's why when the conservatives criticized the left over having smartphones, they run into, you know, they go full speed in defense mode of

putting up these silly comics. There's one where that guy is like, you know, there's a guy, a peasant who says society is, you know, sucks and we should improve it. And then the guy pops out of the well going, yeah, you participate in society because they're very, very desperate to whitewash the narrative and be like, we're good people. We're good people. We're good. Yo, I acknowledge it.

I know full well these computers sitting these these monitor screens my phone sitting in front of me yes slave labor i'm not a big fan of it i'm not a big fan of it but i recognize and i'll be fully honest about how the world works and understand the privileges and the benefits of everything we get cheap gasoline the energy we use for our machines the energies that comes from from oil from around the world and under trump from this country, the natural, the fossil fuels. But there are a lot of people who want to lie because they want to pretend to be good people. They want to act like they're opposed to this, but they will vote

for it every chance they get. You go to them in private and say, Barack Obama killed kids and signed the indefinite detention provision. You're going to sign this. You're going to sign away your rights, and you are going to get a dollar cheeseburger for the next 10 years. They're going to be like, sign me up. My problem is knowing that this is all built on slaves, even the plastic for this awesome comic book.

How do I stop acknowledging that? How do I stop myself from hating myself and want to destroy myself? You just realize the world is what it is. Now, I think it's fair to say, you know, we actively speak out against it. We challenge it and we try to avoid a lot of that stuff. Some of it is seemingly unavoidable if you want to operate in this system.

And I'm not going to pretend like it's not true. When a friend of mine who's an activist, I said, you know, I was talking about this friend of mine. I was like, you claim to be on the left and you care about, you know, fighting for these causes. But the reality is you're only fighting for your community, for your country. And they said, that's not true. I'm fighting for everybody.

I said, no, you're not. You've got a Samsung laptop. It's made at the Foxconn laboratories. Those people are walking off the roof in mass to commit suicide. They put up suicide nets to catch them because their lives are miserable. You don't care about those people. You're putting money into that. You're supporting that system. They want to believe that they're good people fighting the good fight. But the reality of the world is that most people can't see that far. Most people don't realize all the pain and suffering that goes into everything they

have. I get it. I don't like it. I'll try to avoid it i try you know to to you know products made in america by good you know free and fair labor and everything like that but yo we don't make stuff in this country anymore which is why one of the reasons i voted for trump in 2020 was because i would rather have a a shirt cost 20 bucks that i can only own a few of if it's made by someone who gets an honest living as opposed to having these sweatshop factories overseas where we exploit cheap labor where they don't get healthcare or anything like that. I'm not in favor of that.

I'd like the world to be a better place, but I tell you, I rest assured the average person and most people living in cities would sign the dotted line and sign that deal with the devil to get cheap crap because they don't want to have to do the work to get it, and it's exploitative, but they're for it, and they want to pretend they're opposed to it,

but they support it every chance they get. Have we ever had a not a slave capital society? We had the Romans. Then we had the Middle Ages where it was all serfdom and slavery. What were you going to say, Lydia? We have not, and this is an interesting point because there has always been slavery in the world, and people tend to try to tie it to America, which is incredibly unfair because we did not start it. We ended it. We did end it. And one

of the things that you guys should do, because I know this is depressing, is go to humanprogress.org because I know the world looks bleak sometimes, but it is very much better for more people than it has ever been good for before we are reducing poverty at an incredible rate people have more fresh water we have lower infant mortality rates and even though people aren't like actually reproducing as much as they should be to keep humanity going there are at least other things that are making life better for every for most people yeah let's get the conversation up a notch yeah let's say you get a president who's like we're going to go to war in the middle east we're going to fight for the kind of turkey pipeline we're going to start a war in ukraine to push back

russia and if you don't vote for that and you get someone who's an isolationist china takes over and they kill substantially more people so the question isn't even how many people are you willing to sacrifice the question is people will die no matter what and it's a very very complicated and difficult problem we face as humans it's part of why it's been offensive wars like the history you attack so that you don't get attacked and it's always that's the cycle if we if the united states pulls back from the world stage and rescinds the american empire that gap will be filled by someone and so you end up with these neocons these war hawks who are like i'd rather it be me than someone else i can certainly understand that worldview i just. I just don't believe in that kind of philosophical moral position of it's better that I'm subjecting people to pain and suffering

because someone else would do it anyway. I'm like, well, you're committing an immoral act. We should push back against the immoral acts but not commit them. It's tough, man. It's uncomfortable. It's an uncomfortable conversation. And I'll just point out, beyond products, two of the biggest events in the world this year, the Olympics in China and the World Cup at the end of the year in Qatar, all produced by slave labor. Yep. That, you know, around Thanksgiving, Christmas time, everybody's going to be tuning in for soccer. And that's been one of the huge stories, but people are still going to tune in. You know, the reason I say it's mostly city people is because people who live out in the middle of nowhere, you know, conservative types and rural types believe in personal responsibility, are responsible for a lot of their own food, and they're willing to roll up their sleeves and do hard work. But people in cities, man, they just want to exploit, extract, not every single person, just a lot of them.

You know, think about the person who works at buzzfeed right how much how much do they pay people at buzzfeed 50 to 90k if you look at glassdoor.com and what was their job to write garbage poisonous trash buzzfeed is complete garbage and they're not the only ones there's right-wing garbage too don't get me wrong uh the issue is there's no reason in any sane reality that someone at buzzfeed should be making that much money because there are people who drive buses who deserve more than that because driving a bus does something for society but writing about brad pitt's junk does not and they make tons of cash all of these big new york media companies are garbage and it's an example of these people who are providing nothing but they're extracting everything.

Yeah, writing about, I don't know, some model or the latest, I don't know, Britney Spears video. Yeah. I went to BuzzFeed. Britney's face is at the top. Yeah, Britney Spears. Britney Spears. Okay, it's fine. That's entertainment tonight.

The magazines you read at the checkout at the grocery store. But seriously, to think that those organizations make the money that they do is just simply astounding. And of course, as you remember, BuzzFeed, a combination with all their listicles and talking about this person's junk or this person's hairdo, they're the ones that partnered with John Brennan brennan and clapper and jake tapper to release the steel dossier because they just want to extract they're stealing the fine china from the ship after the iceberg was hit they know it you know i tell this story often when i i worked for american eagle airlines doing like actually loading planes eventually i was an acting crew chief so sometimes i'd be in charge of the room, but sometimes I'd be working, you know, loading the planes, getting paid, you know, like $11 an hour. And the first time I walked into vice and saw what little these people did and how much

they got, I was like, how is it that you're getting three or four times what actual laborers are getting paid and you are doing nothing. But anyway, we got to go super chats. If you haven't already smashed that like button, get your super chats in now, and then got to go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, smash that like button. Get your Super Chats in now and then go to TimCast.com. Become a member because we're going to have uncensored members-only content coming up around 11 or so p.m. We have a huge library. You can check out all of our

past members-only videos with people like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Alex Jones and people like that. Let's read what you've got. Let's see what we've got. Charlie's see what we got. Charlie Wilson says, In the morning, Lydia, Ian, Curtis, etc., how would y'all allow that Curtis to wear that hat?

Go Canes. Oh, the Hurricanes, the bunch of jerks, as the team is called. They called themselves. And they knocked the Capitals out the year after they won the Stanley Cup in seven games. You're speaking of hockey. Hockey, yes. Okay, sorry. It cuts deep. of that's well done though we have a we have the super chat here i can't read your name because youtube blocks off the first super chat he says

i heard that most people with less than 90 iq can't understand conditional hypotheticals if that's true it explains so much that makes sense it's also i think the military said someone with an i could be wrong with this. I think someone super chatted this before. Someone with an IQ under 80 cannot be enlisted because there's not a single job they can do. Yeah, I think if your IQ is too high, you're not really suited for the military either because you're willing to question authority.

You're almost compelled to question authority. I disagree with that. I thought I'd heard that in the past. A high IQ is not indicative of pro or anti-authority. In fact, someone with a high IQ could be an authoritarian despot who takes over and would be someone who's got the skills and the mental abilities could just be put in a high-ranking position.

But they don't want a despot to take over in the military either. They don't want like a mastermind or – Someone who's that smart would be able to manipulate and control that system and not have to worry about it. You know what I mean? Like someone who's that smart would run circles around the stupid people who are running the show and then take it over.

Yeah, it'd be dangerous. That's why I think they don't want them, but I could be wrong about that. But I don't think honesty has anything to do with intelligence. Stupid people can lie. Stupid people can tell the truth. Smart people can lie. Smart people can tell the truth.

Morals. Yeah. Good point. Dan says, YouTube is misrepresenting the show, stating only one viewer. Yeah, that's been happening for like the past week or so. And it's been happening to other shows as well.

I think I was watching Crowder and it said one viewer. Thank you for being our one viewer tonight. I saw on YouTube it was like Steven Crowder live, one viewer. And I was like, well, that's broken. That ain't right. Yep. YouTube, Twitter, that's all. Baxter says, so does Apple hand over people's text messages

to Congress now willy nilly and is this something new? I thought iMessage texts were end-to-end encrypted and not even Apple could see them how does everyone have everyone's text now? is Alex using Samsung? I don't know maybe Apple did hand them over

no idea, yeah maybe that's it and encryption, but if you can't confirm the code, they can tell you it's encrypted. It might not be encrypted. That's the thing about Signal, too, because I use Signal. It's supposed to be an encryption. And I think it's Moxie made that, right? Moxie Marlin Spike is the guy who made Signal.

I believe so, yeah. And I've talked to him before. He seems straightforward and honest. But for all we know, federal agents showed up to their office with a national security letter and said, you give us a backdoor, you get locked up and disappeared. And they said, well, I'd rather not be disappeared. So here's your backdoor.

I have looked at the list, though, of what they can see, like the FBI can go through and pull and signal is one of the best. One of the best? Yeah. But you don't know if they were ever served a national security letter. That's the challenge. So Ian's right. Unless they show you the code, there you go.

We've come a long way from, if anyone recalls what happened with the San Bernardino Islamic attack in California, that was a huge story about how the feds were trying to crack the iPhone of either the attacker or his wife, and Apple wasn't turning it over. And that was, I think, 2014, 2015. All right. So they had something to turn over, and they were refusing it? Yeah.

Yeah. They asked Apple, and Apple was basically like, you figure it out. We're not going to. All right. Let's read another one. We got Rob Maddy says, will you guys consider doing an audio book of Tales from the Inverted World? Also, can Alexones narrate it

that would actually be really awesome considering it's like mysteries and stuff but in fact the tales from the inverted world book you can get it i think it's not identical but for the most part it's the same as a podcast so if you check out the tales from the inverted world podcast on itunes and spotify you can listen to the sound effects and the creepy music and shane the author is telling these stories it's fun man i'm really excited for the new uh the new the part two or the next season i should say which is ghosts of the civil war going down to the south trying to find the lost confederate gold somebody died in the invest during the investigation people saw there's ufos down there crazy no joke yeah but

but but it's uh near like experimental military research bases. So I'm not saying – it's not like it's aliens or anything. I heard that they had flying machines during the Civil War, like hot air balloon type stuff. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was in Udvar-Hazy where one of the space shuttles are Smithsonian Air and Space Museum annex. And they have an exhibit where they talk about hot air balloons and how air balloons and how they would be it would be used as reconnaissance during the civil war yeah interesting roberto says have you seen howard stern coming out and saying joe rogan shouldn't be canceled it came up on my feed after reading about neil young

failing yeah and i think it's the i think it's out of self-preservation i think howard stern is like man i don't i don't want to get canceled out of the things I said, you know what I mean? Yeah, he's had a few bad news cycles as of late lashing out about unvaccinated people, so he's trying to save face here pretty clearly. Damien says, saying the sky is blue is like saying water is water is wet, and a fish never drink water when thirsty.

Okay. All right. RT says, good morning, y'all. I'm commenting about Tim's saying electricians don't have time to watch the show yesterday. I'm an electrician in Brooklyn and listen every morning while I work. Much love from New York and please give my music a listen at RTbaby on IG. I will clarify that I may have misspoken, but I don't think that's what I was saying. I said your average electrician doesn't have time to do all the news, to read all the

articles that we read. So we can't expect your average tradesman or office worker to know why Fauci is a liar and how he's lying. But what we do is we actually, I mean, you, Curtis, you watch the news all day, every day, and then pull out and call out the lies and the manipulations. We do something similar. We do, outside of just media, you know, we're fact-checking and doing standard journalism across the board. That's our job. Right. Somebody who's an electrician has a job to be an electrician, so they come to us for that news and that distillation. We mean this as a compliment that, yes, a 20,000 word story

in the New Yorker about, I don't know, Fauci is not something that we believe really any person should be subjecting themselves to. That there's an incalculable number of things that you can do better with your time than that.

So, let us do it. Yeah, I don't envy your job, man. You're like an admin, looking at all the traumatic content coming us do it. Yeah, I don't envy your job, man. You're like an admin looking at all the traumatic content coming through your feed. Yeah, exactly. I'm traumatized. Exactly, exactly. All right.

Ron Jr. says, please do the next super chat in Alex Jones' voice. I like that. All right. I'll try. What do we have here? Wraith Customs Firearm says, all right um i'll try what do we have here wraith customs firearm says neil young doesn't even do most of his music couldn't remove it even if he really wanted to that's fair i like that

no lies detected no lies detected all right twisted logic gaming says why not both start a minecraft channel tim one hour a week relax and play a game add your values into the commentary oh i couldn't do it man i do too much work already morning show and night show is just work work work plus people don't understand man there's so much administrative stuff that goes on behind the scenes it was funny when i was talking to joe about this and i was like you know i record i think three and a half hours of content per day maybe four some days and he was like yeah but that's still only like what three or four hours of work per day and i was like that's just recording it well i think for joe he sees news

and stuff throughout the day and he reads the news and then he sits down in a room and he talks to someone then he goes back to his business whereas for me it's like i wake up i'm reading yeah at night i'm reading i sit at the computer all day just reading fact checking pulling sources you know doing my best and then i record after i've read enough to where i feel comfortable and understand something you know what i mean i think that's our that's one of the biggest misconceptions i get from people from readers or just people are curious about newsbusters like it somehow sometimes gets the assumption that we're able to pound out these studies about thousands of minutes in just like you know four hours or something three hours and you're like no you can't do that if you're gonna do it right you're gonna actually do it accurately

uh because we're saying the media aren't doing things accurately. Some of these things sometimes take a while for us to get going. Or even just if you want to do a monologue form for a podcast, you've got to prepare things that you want to talk about. Yeah. I looked up Neil Young. I can confirm it. He sold half the rights of his catalog to a company for $150 million. So he doesn't even own it.

He can't even get it pulled off. Yeah, what's up with that? He owns half this catalog. I don't know what kind of pull he thinks he has anymore. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, smash the muv-uckin' Luke button. The Luke button?

There is no Luke button. There is no Luke button. Luke abandoned us. Luke this video. Luke this video? Yeah, Luke is in a better place. Smash that Luke button. Smash the like button.

John Hoyle says, in today's's climate it was very brave of you to stand up for free speech and criticize getters and miller's error um i don't i don't you know what man when the left comes out with these smear pieces about us and what we do they're lying it is annoying when they when they lie and they're like, you know, these leftists who don't actually watch the show get their only information about me comes from the Young Turks who pull things out of context or like these other fake channels that try to manipulate and propagandize by pulling things out of context. But we've criticized Trump quite a bit, literally just criticized Tucker Carlson, you know, half an hour ago or whatever.

I don't care, man. I'm not, I'm not here to play games and just lie to placate. You know what I mean? If Tucker Carlson does a stupid segment about sexy M&Ms, I'm going to be like, that was a really dumb segment. Even Freedom Tunes made fun of it. Like, yeah, it's like, if you're a principled person, you can criticize people who are on, you know, who are mostly on your side. In fact, that's one of the reasons why I think the right has been so appealing to regular people is that they're willing to be like,

we recognize the fault in that and let's move forward and try and live better lives. You know what I mean? Where the left is just cancel and censor and burn it all. We're going to praise you and that's always been one of my things

sometimes when we get mainstream journalists that'll criticize us that you praised us two weeks ago. Why are you attacking us now? It's because we can. We're going to criticize you when we want to we're going to say you did something right when you want when when we want to deal with it it's i mean it's it's it shouldn't be it should be astounding but it's not that their brains are that thick i was thinking that you can't be principled and be partisan. I don't know if the two things can exist together.

Like if you're partisan means you like adhere to an ideology without principle. If you're overtly, I mean, there's, there's shades of gray, right? But if you're overtly partisan, your goal is just support party line. Then yeah, you're, you're going to, you know, Donald Trump can come out and be like, it should be illegal to burn the American flag. And then Candace Owens says the same thing and i'm like i think that's wrong i think if you own the property and it's in a safe environment you can burn whatever it is you want and i think as as uh you know i used to be a big fan of pen gillette now he's kind of lost it it was with no use them yeah yeah but he had they had this really great

bit penn and teller where they take um like it's a declaration of independence i think or the constitution and they stick the american flag in it and then put fire and then the fire comes out and they open it, the flag's gone. And he says that burning the American flag is the ultimate symbol of the freedom that it represents. And I'm like, that is correct. So long as it's your flag, like when Antifa steals a flag from somebody and burns it, you know, that's theft and vandalism of property. But I think if it's yours and you own it. So when I see Trump say it should be illegal to do and other people say that, I'm just like, I don't agree with that.

I think it's stupid. I think it's against free speech. And anybody who claims to be for free speech, but thinks you don't have a right to, you know, desecrate your own property to make a statement is wrong. And I have no problem saying Trump is wrong and Candace Owens was wrong on that.

But guess what? I said Candace Owens was wrong about that. And I said it was dumb. She's still willing to come on the show and have a discussion. That's why I, and Ben Shapiro is much the same way. When they when they fling mud at him, he rolls with the punches and he jokes about it. I think that's appealing to regular people.

And that's why Peter Doocy, the same with the Peter Doocy thing with Joe Biden. You know, he's rolling with the punches on this and he's joking about it that president can call me whatever he wants. As long as he gets talking, nobody needs to apologize to me. and people just find that so refreshing in this day and age yeah yeah johnny california says finally bought a membership hearing you guys curse so casually is really weird it's like the first time a new girlfriend lets you hear her fart yep that that is true yeah ian he's the worst right people think he's this mild-mannered hippie guy, but as soon as we go in the members-only segment, he puts his suit on. He's talking with...

He lets the accent come out. I shave. Yeah, completely fresh-shaven. Now the hair, too. Yeah, this I can't wait for. This is going to be great. You're missing out if you're not a member. This is going to be good.

Good point. All right. Harry Tos' Monkey Trucker Disease. Copyright it. You got it. We we're gonna own that we're gonna make shirts monkey monkey trucker disease oh it's better than the monkey variant yeah i like that monkey variant what is this september says the monkeys were put down the truck driver said they were cats that's what the lady claimed she was told they were cats so weird

so regardless i would not you do not approach were they were they smuggling the monkeys man that'd be so crazy the real bambunga says the media fear mongers when there isn't anything to fear i'm kind of terrified this monkey story isn't getting a lot of attention might be serious yeah yo what if it like yeah what if it's you know they want to keep it under wraps because it really is a major breach. Maybe they are smuggling the monkeys. And that's why they said cats and aren't aren't covering it. Well, I mean, it's in the news. Everybody talks about what happened.

Now this lady's saying she's sick. It's also like the perfect story for, you know, if if it turns out there's a new variant, everybody starts getting sick and they're like, well, you all saw the monkey story, man. So right now, you know, it's funny. Imagine this hypothetical. The Wuhan lab leak. Well, the virus story, man. So right now, you know, it's funny. Imagine this hypothetical. The Wuhan lab leak. Well, the virus emerges around Wuhan.

There's a story about someone getting bit and peed on by a bat. And then you've got Anthony Fauci funding research and it's easily traced back. And that's the story, right? So now they're like, all right, do over, everybody. Do over. We're going to do it. Let's make sure that whatever the new variant is, there's a clear origin story. So it's a bunch of monkeys and a lady got sick, and that's where it came from.

We're in this age of reboots where everybody is rebooting everything, trying to do sequels to everything, movies, books, everything else. I mean, come on. We're just going to completely start over from scratch. We're going to change all the storylines. We're not going to be in a cave. We're going to be on a highway. Retcon. Yeah, retcon. We're going to change all the storylines. We're not going to be in a cave. We're going to be on a highway. Retcon. We're rebooting COVID.

This time it's a monkey origin. NASA is supposed to smash a spacecraft into an asteroid later this year. Oh my gosh, that's terrifying. It's not going to work and it's probably going to end up coming here. At the end of the last ice age, the comet that hit North America apparently shattered before it hit.

So all these fragments hit, and that's way worse than one. And then 800 years later, the rest of the comet fragments hit again. So do not blow asteroids up. You know what one of my favorite conspiracy theories is? It's not really a conspiracy. This is the stupidest thing. I hate how everything is a conspiracy theory when it's not even a conspiracy theory, right? The idea of a conspiracy theory is that an an evil caballo group is committing crimes.

But now it's like flat earth is called a conspiracy theory. And I'm like – I mean I guess if you think the government is covering it up. But that's just like a ridiculous theory itself. But I love this. You can read about it. There's people who believe that the asteroid belt is actually a planet that was blown up like in a galactic war or something not surprised yeah those are the fragments i've heard the moon is left over from a cometary from an

impact from planet thea hit the earth and came out the other side and then cooled down and became the moon and that mars if you look at that giant 1800 mile scar across the planet it looks like something hit mars and skidded across the surface and ripped it open. And then you see all that iron oxide dust probably from magma that just covered the surface. Wouldn't it be cool if the actual history of the planet

was that aliens came to colonize a perfect solar system with a gas giant and then a war broke out in space and they blew up one of the planets which became the asteroid belt and we're just like the leftover servants. You know, we were like the help

of like, you know, the were like the help of like – the humans were the alien species that came to earth. And after the war broke out, there was just like middle-class people who were on the planet doing work and the ships all leave and they're like, all right, what do we do now? Were they made to watch the planet get blown up? No, no. I'm saying like alien colonists were like the solar system is pretty good

and so they send middle-class like laborers down to the planet and start doing basic work like tilling the field. They're not highly educated. They're not elites. They're not scientists. They're just regular people who know how to do plumbing and electricity and stuff. And then conflict breaks out between the elites in the sky and then they blow up a planet, leave, and the people on earth are just sitting there like oh now what do we do and there's only a small group and then here we are you know thousands of years later the civilization completely oblivious to what the past was do you think we were seeded the earth was seeded with life like hominid life huh that's it's a weird thing to ask somebody yeah yeah yeah that's why that's why i'm kind of like oh my gosh that's a weird question i personally don't it's just an interesting some people think that like ancient humans came from somewhere else and landed here and kind of started this.

Let's read more about monkey trucks. Carl Schneider says they only found 98 of the 100 monkeys. Lock your windows. I thought they said they got them all. They killed one of them. That's the implication. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. Brian Knoll says the monkey truck issue 100 monkeys but crates with three in each that's 99 monkeys with multiples of three but somehow there was a fourth monkey on the loose plus the driver pushing for more gain of function the hundredth monkey was the driver it was actually a monkey illegal immigration truck and they were they were using the crates as like a disguise to like, you know, and the monkey was driving and he's like, they were, they were given notices to appear checking at their ice facility. Yes. I love this one from Raymond G.

Stanley says, why no tranquilizers? That's F'd. F Biden. Like, like Biden did it. I mean, it wasn't him as such. Just blame Biden for everything. Yeah. Yes.

And the monkeys got out. Zachary says michelle fallon updated the situation on her facebook page i just looked all right so is she still sick or is she all right oh i'm curious now all right mcsquared says tim the same media that won't say the wind had covid symptoms vehemently downplayed a lab leak as a source of covid if someone can get covered from a lab animal it it lends legitimacy to a lab leak possibility. It would be shocking if the monkeys, if they are transporting monkeys that had COVID. That would shock me if that came out.

Like, I can imagine them sending them somewhere to experiment on them, but to transport them across the state would be another level of like, whoa. I would not be surprised, bro, if you read about what Fauci was doing. The unwise. Brad Box says, have you guys reached out to Barry Weiss for IRL? Her personal evolution of morals and logic coming from the left is refreshing. Would be interesting to see the clash of ideas between all of you. Well, look, you know, Barry's always welcome to come on this show. She's a particularly prominent personality.

I don't know if she would have time, but we can reach out to her same as we do for everybody else. But I will say this. My view of Barry is that she's well aware of the culture war. She knows exactly who Jordan Peterson is. She knows who the intellectual dark web is. She knows all of the ideas that individuals in that group have espoused. So for her to come out on Bill Maher now shocked, I feel like is disingenuous. Do you think she's virtue signaling for her friends no i kind of feel like

she waits until she feels like it's safe to speak out and that's why it took so long for her to speak out at the new york times about what was going on because when i worked for these when i worked for fusion i saw exactly what was happening exactly what was going on with the shift in the narratives and you know especially with vice it's it's hilarious how vice was this edgy bro you know website and now it's a feminist company and i'm watching that happening and i have no problem saying this is dumb i tried quitting fusion they were like no you can't so for these people who are in media to be like i didn't realize what had been happening i'm like you know exactly what was happening come on you know we're all sitting there in these same meetings.

I've had so many people at these companies be like, the editor-in-chief is a psychopath. He's saying the stupidest things in the world. And I'm like, speak up. I don't want to lose my job. Okay.

So when you come out seven years later and you're like, I'm shocked at what's happening. No, you're not. There are a bunch of people who worked in administrative stuff at Fusion, at ABC News, because I worked in the ABC News building. I worked in the abc news building right by central park and i also worked

in the univision building in miami because i moved from new york to miami and for the i was in the first year in new york second year was in miami i thought it'd be better if i was closer to the core team but even the people at abc news who didn't exact who didn't work um for fusion would be like i'm watching this insane stuff happening. You know, like the shift in narrative. They know it's happening, but they don't want to speak up because this is why I said my view of urban liberals is that if you went to them and said everything that you have and everything good that's been given to you, you can keep and all you got to do is sign

this document ordering the execution of a child in a foreign country. They'd be like done and done. They would sign on the dotted line. They vote for Obama twice. The first time he gets elected, he's like, I'm going to go buy a bunch of kids. And then he did. And then they're like, I'm going to vote for that again, even though we're supposedly the anti-war voters, all that protesting about George W. Bush. So I'm sorry, you know, for people who work for the New York Times, for people who work for these big media companies, my view is they all know that any reasonable, moderate, traditional liberal type, I assure you, has sat in that meeting and been like, you guys have lost your minds. But far be it for me to say anything because I don't want to lose

my job. So the real question is not that they're discovering this and having a moral transition, but they're finally saying, is it safe for me to come out and criticize the cult now i've had no problem since the beginning to say these people are psychopaths let me come out and tell you with the same emotion i felt three years ago when i first had this thought and i'm going to try and replay it for you right now as if i'm having it genuinely for the first time that's why covet is is such a strong example of the hypocrisy and people finally coming to terms you see even mainstream outlets like the new york times just say that oh oh yeah like this is really terrible this is awful what's going on here with

our kids and um and it's so disingenuous and again it goes back to we were talking about earlier about honesty and people are just thirsty for honesty and tired of the BS. All right. We'll just get one more here. House Money says, Neil Young likely deleted his tweet because he thought to himself, oh, ish, I forgot I sold 50% of my catalog a couple years ago. I guess I can't do that. It's pretty cold. I just love the idea of someone at Spotify being like, sir, we're going to lose Neil Young's music

unless we ban Joe Rogan. What do we do? We have to ban Joe Rogan. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. Joe would be like, okay, if you terminate the contract, you owe me $100 million

and then I'll put my stuff back up on YouTube. So that ain't going to happen. They got an exclusive on it. But my bigger fear is what happens after Joe stops. You know, is Joe going gonna be 70 doing this show you know he's gonna be on spotify or i mean his spotify deal probably won't exist spotify might not even exist but is he gonna be 70 years old how old is joe is he like 56 yeah i think so 54 56 14 more years oh he's gonna be like i'm joe and this is the show. He'll be young. He's on the life extension. He's got like he's first in line

for the Harvard medicine. Getting that NAD plus stuff. Don't sell him short. He looks great. He's going to be 80 and he's going to be the exact same as he is now. He does look great too.

That's the point, yeah. In one of the articles I was reading today they showed a clip from News Radio and have you guys ever seen that show? Yeah.

Andy Dick was on it. Joe Hartman. I think it was like the first show that Joe was on. Oh, gosh, yeah. He was really young. But it was this really hilarious scene where Phil Hartman's character, Bill, reads the news.

It's a news radio. So he's like, in today's news, Congress passes a bill. He needs someone to fill in. So he asks Joe. And in the show, Joe is an electrician or whatever and a conspiracy theorist. And it turns out he's like's like or so so um who's the who's the the the who's the boss guy oh yeah dave foley dave foley that's right so foley is like bill what are you doing with with joe like you can't have him on you can't just take whoever you want put him on the radio and the reason phil hartman's character did it

was because he wanted to look good he thought you know joe would be really bad and so he's like i'm gonna go grab a coffee and he gets out and then d Dave Foley says to Joe, Joe Rogan's character, you can't do this. You got to go. And then he's like, all right, well, you got 15 seconds to get someone in here to read the news. And then Dave's like, all right, do it. Cause there was no one else. And then it's an amazing bit where he starts reading the news really, really well. And everyone's like, wow, he's actually really good at reading. And then Phil Hartman's character comes in, and then he asks him a question. He was like, why is the weather going to be cold, Joe, to try and put him on the spot?

And then Joe goes, well, if it's like any other cold front, it's probably due to a low-pressure system that's coming in from the east. And then he's like, so then he grabs the paper from Joe and crumples it up. And then he's like, so what was happening then? And Joe goes, I don't have my report in front of me, but if memory serves,

in Congress today, a bill was passed. And it's just really, really good. It was funny they included it because it's a bit about Joe being good at talking, but that was his character in the show. Anyway, guys, we're going to go to the members only segment. If you haven't already, smash the like button, subscribe to this channel,

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Bigger meaning more fiscally larger or more people larger. We're going to have 10, I don't know how many employees Disney has. I don't know. We're going to have 100,000 employees. It's going to be an exponential growth. We're going to take over the media ecosystem. We are going to shatter the corrupt mainstream news narrative, and we are going to bring back real journalism and real reporting. In fact, we've already done it, and with your support, we will continue to do it. And then we're just going to have this world that's centered around people are going to be like, yo, I like this Tim Kass News website.

They never tell me what to think. They just tell me what happened. That's all that really needs to happen, right? And then we do this talk show. We have our opinion stuff. But our news is going to be, yo, this is what happened. We're not going to misrepresent it. I'll give you a really good example.

The voter rights bill from Democrats. You could just as easily call it a voter suppression bill. But the reality is it's a voter overhaul. But all the media, let's say voter rights, voter rights because they are lying, duplicitous, disingenuous. You get the point. You want to shout anything out, Curtis? Newsbusters.org. Newsbusters.org.

Follow me on Twitter at Curtis Hou halk all one word my name uh because that's where i tweet all of the horribleness from joy reed and uh nicole wallace and jake tapper and all the rest so you don't have to um and i watch jen saki too so and i actually try to figure out what biden's saying bring it together i'll just say jen saki is really good at her job. She is, yeah. Like to be like making cohesive sentences out of what Joe Biden has stated.

Amazing. It's, you know, she's a liar. Yeah. But you know, she's getting it done. Exactly. You can say that, yeah, she's a liar and she's pretty terrible. But like, you can say like,

that someone is able to string together sentences out of Joe Biden's drivel. That's it. There you go. I watched Psaki say, hey, if you had a hard weekend, you know, just drink some alcohol and then come back and fight. I'm like, what the hell is he telling people to drink and fight? Go to a kickboxing class and drink a margarita.

Maybe rethink your advice there. Yeah. Hey, I'm Ian Crosland. Curtis, great to see you, man. Thanks for looking into the darkness. I didn't have to. Check me out at iancrosland.net, great to see you, man. Yep, thank you. Good to – thanks for looking into the darkness. I didn't have to. Check me out at iancrosland.net, and I will see you guys soon. And I was going to say, I do appreciate Tim's ambition for the company.

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