Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #455 - Neil Young DEMAND To Ban Joe Rogan BACKFIRES, Spotify Boots his Music w/Tom Fitton

Episode Date: January 27, 2022

Tim, Ian, Seamus of FreedomToons, and Lydia join Tom Fitton of JudicialWatch to discuss Neil Young's failed gamble to get Joe Rogan censored off Spotify, Joe Rogan's non-racism, a CNN anchor's ridicul...ous comparison between the Soviet Union and the state of Virginia, Stephen Breyers' pending retirement from the Supreme Court, California being sued for requiring sex quotes, the leftist Reddit in panic mode after a terrible Fox interview, and Nancy Pelosi's choice not to retire. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So Neil Young threatens an ultimatum, tells Spotify, either me or Joe Rogan. And he stood firm. Good for him. And Spotify said, dude, Joe Rogan. And he went, oh. And they're going to remove all of his music. So congratulations, Neil. You have lost this one. But hey, I got to be honest.
Starting point is 00:00:18 At least he's standing by his threats. So there you go. Thank goodness. Yeah, thank goodness that he's standing up for what he believed in. You know what? I got to be honest. More there you go. Thank goodness. Yeah. Thank goodness that he's standing up for what he believed in. You know what? I got to be honest. More power to him if he wants to make a threat and he stood by it. All right. There's actually really big news. In fact, it's something wrong. Something's wrong with the audio, isn't it? Let's find out. Maybe there's something wrong with the audio. Either way, I'll just keep talking. Supreme Court Justice Breyer is going to retire. In my opinion, this sends a huge,
Starting point is 00:00:49 a very powerful signal Democrats expect to lose in November. I think all the polling shows this. And Breyer is likely retiring now so that they can nominate someone and get them through before the Democrats lose the House and the Senate. And that's the interesting thing, losing the Senate, too, because we expect them to lose the House. We've got a 29th Democrat retiring. Very, very interesting stuff. So we'll get into that. And we're being joined by Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch.
Starting point is 00:01:14 And you can talk a lot about a lot of the lawsuits you have, one of which is California requires you to have a woman on the board or something like that. Yeah. If you're a public company, you have to have a corporate – there's a new rule that you have to have a certain number of women on the board. And what that means, the mirror of that is that if you're a man, you can't apply for certain board positions or be considered for certain board positions at public companies in California. It's outrageously illegal. It's kind of critical theory, feminist style. So we sued on behalf of taxpayers in California.
Starting point is 00:01:47 California has a liberal taxpayer standing law that allows taxpayers to challenge illegal activity by government officials. Oh, interesting. So, you know, we've been in a now six-week trial as the government has come in and tried to make the case that not only are they remedying discrimination without having any evidence of discrimination, but also that making sure that there's sex discrimination and corporate boards actually helps companies. So it's a big deal. It's critical theory, the feminist version of it on trial. And the left is very concerned about it because they have a new law that followed up on that where they expanded
Starting point is 00:02:31 the required quotas to your other protected classes, minorities, sexual orientation, and things like that. So there's a whole quota system they've put in place to make sure that boards are following what they want to follow in terms of upending really decades of anti-discrimination law. So you guys do a lot of lawsuits. Yeah. Do you want to just give a brief introduction as to who you are and what you do? Well, Judicial Watch is, I run Judicial Watch. I'm president of Judicial Watch, and we are a nonprofit educational foundation, and we sue the government mostly to get access to information,
Starting point is 00:03:14 but we represent people whose rights have been violated. We help whistleblowers, and in the case like in California, we sue government officials or government agencies when they're breaking the law. And when it comes to uncovering government corruption here in D.C., we're second to none. We've done more than Congress and the media and such. So it's really incredible work. And I say that not because I'm president of Judicial Watch. I just see everything we're doing.
Starting point is 00:03:40 It's just incredible. Right on, man. Well, we've got a lot to talk about, so thanks for joining us. We've got Seamus tonight. No, Luke. Shimcast is on tonight. Luke went on down to Florida. We miss him. We love him, but I'm going to be filling in for him for
Starting point is 00:03:55 a little while until he's back. It's great to be here. It's also great to get a chance to meet you. I think the work you're doing is fantastic. Thank you. I love your background. We've got an audio problem. Thank you. Yeah, I think Tim might be kind of quiet. No, my mic is completely off. Okay, so we hear Tim's room tone. Hopefully, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:11 just keep the comments coming and let us know who sounds good. Super chat. Hey, there we go. There we go. Tim's back. Yeah. It's getting lit now. Sorry about that. So we will be bouncing. I thought I was doing something wrong and getting all the signals from you. There's people in the background.
Starting point is 00:04:27 No one can see this because we're really good at it, but when the camera's on Seamus, I'm waving my arm. I'm just like, my microphone is off! Oh, it's true. I'm like, all right, just keep listening. Is my microphone on now? Yeah, you sound good. Now I can hear you.
Starting point is 00:04:40 I was like, what's happening? I couldn't hear anything. That was weird, yeah. And I'm like, are my headphones off? What's going on? You know, we have the soundboard we got to upgrade, to be completely honest. Oh, nice. Yeah, because people notice this.
Starting point is 00:04:51 We started the show one time, and it was like static. Yeah. And it was really weird because it makes no sense why that would happen. But these things happen. Welcome to the future. Anyway, I don't know. Did you introduce yourself already? No, not yet.
Starting point is 00:05:01 I'm Ian Crossland. You can follow me at iancrossland.net if you want to follow my social media networks. And I'm happy to be here. Thank you. Hello, Tom. How are you? And I'm also here in the corner trying to fix these sound problems. I don't know what's going on over here.
Starting point is 00:05:14 I turned Tim's mic all the way off to get to try to work a little bit brighter. So hopefully you guys will let me know if anything more is going on, and I will keep an eye on it. Yeah, I think your mic is off as well. Yeah, I'm not hearing you. Yeah, did someone come in and turn all the mics off? No, nothing. Is that better?
Starting point is 00:05:27 Sneaky leprechauns. Wait, why is it the leprechauns? Leprechauns. A little messed up. Nothing to do with you, Shane. Ian immediately comes in with the anti-Irish racism. Yeah, I know. I'm Irish.
Starting point is 00:05:36 This is just like the Chicago fire. Blame the Irish. Oh, it's O'Leary's cow. Fantastic. Kicked over a lantern. German and Irish. Wait, I thought they blamed the cow. They blamed Miss O'Leary's cow. They had toicked over a lantern. German and Irish. Wait, I thought they blamed the cow. They blamed Miss O'Leary's cow.
Starting point is 00:05:45 They had to pick an Irish woman. Of course. The whole city burns down. They're like, you know what? It was probably an Irish lady's cow. Yeah, no doubt. It was like, come on. We know what they were doing.
Starting point is 00:05:53 We were just scapegoating. Sure. All right, everybody. Let's get back on track. Before we get started, head over to TimCast.com. Become a member. Help support our work. As a member, you'll get access to exclusive members-only segments of the TimCast IRL podcast.
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Starting point is 00:06:28 And don't forget to like this video. Smash the like button. Subscribe to this channel. Share the show with your friends. And let's jump into the first story. You know, we talk about Joe Rogan too much. We certainly do. And I've acknowledged that before.
Starting point is 00:06:44 And I guess the issue is, you know, we are sitting down and we're looking at all the news today. We got the story Spotify to take down Neil Young's music after his Joe Rogan ultimatum. And I'm sitting here and, you know, and I look over at our good friend Tom and I'm like, what's more important, Stephen Breyer, a Supreme Court justice retiring or Neil Young losing his battle with Spotify to get Joe Rogan banned? And I don't know because I feel like the Supreme Court is more important, but you made a really great point.
Starting point is 00:07:10 You said the Great Suppression is the biggest story or something to that effect. Yeah, well, that's what we're in, the midst of the Great Suppression. We have massive censorship or an effort for censorship targeting opposition to whatever you want to call it, the big state, deep state, the communists, whatever you want to call it, the big state, deep state, the communists, whoever you want to call it. And the communists are willing to use multimillionaires like Neil Young to suppress other successful people. But he lost.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Yeah, he lost. But Rogan isn't the only one being targeted. It's his listeners being targeted. So when you take away a leading voice that people look up to and communicate and use as a basis for further communications, that's suppression of all of Rogan's audience. So whenever we're suppressed, all of our followers are suppressed and harmed as well. It's the great suppression. And it's not private. It's government. It's suppression. And it's not private. It's government.
Starting point is 00:08:06 It's private. And it's corporate. So we have a quote here. I guess this is from Spotify. They say, Mr. Young's record label, Warner Music, group Corpse Warner Records, formally requested Spotify remove his music Wednesday,
Starting point is 00:08:21 which would take several hours to take effect across Spotify services across the world. Quote, We want all the world's music and audio content to be available to Spotify users. With that comes great responsibility in balancing both safety for listeners and freedom for creators. Spotify spokesman said Wednesday, we regret Neil's decision to remove his music from Spotify, but hope to welcome him back soon. Now, the way the left is portraying
Starting point is 00:08:46 this is Neil Young stood for on his principles and said, I do not want to share a platform with that man. And so they took his music down. I see it as a big loss because what his intent, what he was trying to do was he was like, I'm Neil Young. Yep. You better ban Joe Rogan or I'm out. And they were like, dude, Joe Rogan gets hundreds of millions of downloads per month, and you get six. You don't have any new music that's breaking the charts. Dude, you're not Nicki Minaj. Well, that's the thing. It's that really embarrassing, outdated rock star ego.
Starting point is 00:09:15 This isn't a convention center where you can request you only have green M&Ms in the bowl or you throw a fit. Joe Rogan gets way more views and downloads than him. And I don't know why Neil Young thought himself in a position to determine what we should be able to listen to. But I think it's kind of hilarious that Spotify gave him the old, okay, boomer, get off our platform. We don't care. We don't need you. Is he a boomer though?
Starting point is 00:09:36 He's 76. Oh my gosh. He's older than one. Well, I apologize. I apologize for misgenerationing Neil Young, but I'm telling you, I'm glad his music's off the platform. Because I think it's great. But is that Boomer? Or is that silent?
Starting point is 00:09:49 It's like 1944. He's a Boomer. He's a Boomer? Yeah. Okay, so I was right, Tim. Boomer's just like 44, right? 1944 is when they began. And it was silent up until then.
Starting point is 00:09:59 I'm Generation X. Yeah, I'm a 10. And Boomer is ahead of that. Well, point is, I think it's a fantastic victory. The fact that this old school celebrity who thinks he's a lot cooler and more relevant than he is tried to throw his weight around and got taken down is kind of incredible. But he's the oldest you can be to be a boomer. I just Googled it. It says 76, 68 to 76.
Starting point is 00:10:21 And then technically it says you could also be 58 to 67. There's like two boomer generations, I guess. No, no, no. That's silent generation. The world's oldest boomer just got booted off of Spotify. Yeah, just got booted off Spotify. I'm about it, Ian. Good. You know, I think of Neil Young. He's always struck me as an angry dude. When I was a kid, I used to look at his face and be like,
Starting point is 00:10:39 why is he so mad? Silent generation. I was right. Seamus was wrong. Well, you were the silent generation when the mic wasn't working earlier. Big talk, Seamus was wrong. Well, you were the silent generation when the mic wasn't working earlier. So really. Big talk, Seamus. Yeah, so. But this is a big story. What I got out of this, and I mentioned this the other day, is Neil Young, this protest guy.
Starting point is 00:11:00 I thought he was supposed to be protesting free speech, right? Well, he's anti-war is his big thing. I don't think he's a free speech guy. No, the anti-war movement was the free speech movement. He was part of that. Yeah. And now they're like, oh, speech is bad. How many war hawks has Neil Young tried to protest being on the same platform as? That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:11:17 He did the song Attacking MTV for taking commercials or being too corporate. And he complained that MTV wouldn't play his song. backing MTV for taking commercials or, you know, being too corporate. And he complained that MTV wouldn't play his song. So the irony of him trying to suppress another, you know, artist or another person who has a right, a God-given right to share his views. And, you know, this is a battle. You know, it's embarrassing, I think, for the left here. But they don't, they're never embarrassed. They don't stop because normal people would be embarrassed. They don't follow those rules.
Starting point is 00:11:56 They had the scientists who weren't scientists try to pressure to take him off. They were hoping to get a ball rolling with Neil Young and something else. They'll keep on pushing Rogan. Rogan is a threat, and they are not going to stop. I don't think zombies get embarrassed that they're eating brains. You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. They just keep going, and they just bleh. Well, isn't it hilarious that they put together this list of like 300 doctors who weren't really doctors?
Starting point is 00:12:18 Dentists. Yeah, dentists. And they thought that didn't work, so they're like, we're busting out the big guns. We're going to get Neil Young to try to take him down. You're saying they? You think that people were encouraging Neil to do this? Yeah, the organized left has been doing this for years in terms of targeting voices they disagree with. And usually it's trying to controversialize them to get commercials off or advertisers off.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Rush Limbaugh faced this years ago. So unfortunately, there's nothing new under the sun, but it's gotten worse. Things have metastasized in terms of the attack on speech. And my view is we're in a revolutionary moment. It's dangerous. I agree. I agree. But I will say, following this story uh i
Starting point is 00:13:05 hope neil young will remember that freedom loving people don't need him around anyhow love it yeah beautiful i gotta tell you i i've lived in georgia for the past couple years and it's true a southern man don't need him around anyhow i mean he apologized for that apparently you know when he got criticized for writing neil young wrote these two songs criticizing himself, and then he actually commented on it later, being like, yeah, I shouldn't have written those songs, they were too broad, whatever. It's cancel culture. I want to say, real quick,
Starting point is 00:13:33 the funniest thing about this story is how the one person who's not talked about it is Joe Rogan himself. Like, he doesn't care, it doesn't involve him, he's minding his own business. And everyone else is like – we're sitting here waving our arms in the air, hooting and hollering like, oh. And it's like – I imagine it's just Joe's like – I have a feeling I'd call him and be like, hey, this Neil Young thing.
Starting point is 00:13:56 And he'll be like, what happened? I'll be like, Neil Young, man, he's trying to get you banned. And he'd be like, I don't know what you're talking about, Tim. And I'd be like, oh. He doesn't care. It's not relevant. The public policy implication, the problem there is you've got the media celebrating it, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:11 You know, Neil Young, it's ridiculous, as we're talking about. But the media kind of salivating and celebrating the targeting of Young, and you see, you know, the CNN types and people like that, they love that this is happening. And so that's the dangerous side of it. You've got this whole media political complex, along with big tech, that is excited about taking out voices they don't like. Well, their ratings are in the gutter. Their revenues are in the gutter. I think we saw that turning point for CNN when they lost their airport contracts. And all of a sudden, I mean, that was, what, 95% of their viewership?
Starting point is 00:14:51 And I'm only half kidding, to be honest. I don't think it was that much. But CNN's viewership was largely airports and hotel lobbies. And then they lost the airport deal. That could be a big reason why their ratings tanked. But I don't know if they actually count the airport stuff in the ratings to be honest people probably gonna be like no they don't do that but they lost tremendous reach yeah yeah they know they're losing it to joe rogan among other people they're competitive and you know the dishonest side of it is their
Starting point is 00:15:16 competitors well it's not even just politics it's a business the business is they're losing viewers to people like rogan and and you and, anyone else who has a voice online that normally isn't heard in CNN. Well, and that's what's so hilarious about the entire situation. You're absolutely right. People are looking at this as a matter of politics, and on some level it is. But what is very interesting is the fact that he is direct competition for them in the business that they're operating in. And so when they write these articles about him, it's literally people who work for the companies that he's competing with talking about how horrible he is.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Well, of course they're going to say that. And what the media always does and what the left always does is as soon as they start losing, they immediately portray themselves as martyrs and victims. But the narrative falls apart with Rogan because he's one guy who people really want to listen to. And they make it seem like he's this reckless and irresponsible man who's bullying them. Hey, but isn't it crazy how they really
Starting point is 00:16:12 ramped up the attacks on Joe Rogan? Yes. I was just reading a story like some attorney general was saying Joe Rogan should be censored. Who was that? He's like their Trump now. Some attorney general was like Joe Rogan. Yeah, it's Biden's attorney general. He thinks that – It was Biden's? Yeah. Wow. It should be censored. The Surgeon General came out and said something about disinformation online. I don't know if he said specifically about Rogan.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Yeah, not the attorney general. Oh, Surgeon General. Yeah. Isn't that like a – Man, they've lost control, and you know what? It makes me feel real good. It's great. It's beautiful to see.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Joe Rogan had Jordan Peterson on, and oh boy, are they all triggered. Yeah. and you know it makes me feel real good it's great it's beautiful to see joe we're gonna have jordan peterson on and oh boy are they all triggered whilst culty leftists are like oh no and they're lying it's so it's so hilarious how like dude when you take a clip from joe's show and then post it along with a quote that joe did not say you're a moron people anyone can watch it right yeah but and so when the people are sharing it i see this clip where it's like joe rogan said unless someone is 100 black you can't call him black and i was like i'm gonna watch this clip and joe said nothing of the sort nothing of the sort literally just making things up yeah i mean he some of those things were like
Starting point is 00:17:22 tangentially related what he was talking about he said it was basically strange that there's like people from all over the world of different skin tones and different backgrounds. And like just calling all of them black just seems kind of weird because they're different people from different – Yeah. And I was like, yeah, you know, like sure, I get what Joe's trying to say. But then to take that claim that Joe's saying unless someone's 100 percent black, you can't call them black. I was like, why would they just lie about that? So when someone then retweets that i'm just like these are not serious people no you you it's good though because you know they're just lying yeah i don't think a single person believes when they retweet something like that and they're like oh look at what joe
Starting point is 00:17:57 said i'm like i know you don't believe that yeah well it's like you can listen to the guy and what joe rogan is saying actually opens up a very interesting discussion, which is the fact that in the United States of America, black people have a racial identity but not an ethnic identity because of the tragic history there and the fact that they don't know which part of Africa they're from as individual people. Whereas with the white population, a person generally knows if they're Irish, German, English, Dutch, whatever ancestry they have.
Starting point is 00:18:20 And there's something tragic there, and it shapes the way that a culture operates. But, of course, the media has to turn that into Joe Rogan is racist and says you can't call someone black unless they're 100% black. It's like, well, how do you calculate who's one color versus the other, especially since we now envision people being able to self-identify any way they want? Yeah. And, you know, the left enjoys that. They like that. But the downside of that is it's going to blow up the anti-discrimination infrastructure we have here in the United States. So if you have laws that protect women from being discriminated against, or you have laws that protect people from being discriminated on the basis of race, if they self-identify in ways that, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:14 are kind of raise issues in that regard, well, how are the laws applied? And so there's this kind of war on reality in some respects, but also a war on the law in terms of discrimination. They don't believe in these anti-discrimination laws because the way they talk and think about them would actually negate them and make them inapplicable. I think for me, one thing that instantly broke me out of the left lies, I just immediately saw it, how, you know, someone can identify as whatever they want as long as you agree with their political ideology. Yeah. Like someone super chatted us this the other day. They said black people can't be racist, but Candace Owens is racist. Yes, exactly. Okay. Hold on there a minute because according to their that makes no sense. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:01 But they say it. Well, for Marxists, it makes perfect sense. Yeah. I mean, that you oppose. I mean, that's communism one on one. She has false consciousness. But they say it. Well, for a Marxist, it makes perfect sense. Yeah, you oppose us. I mean, that's communism 101. She has false consciousness and she's not black. I mean, that's communism. Well, it's interesting because the question I've always wanted to ask, they always pose this as a question of black versus white. But it's like, okay, well, what if a black person hates an Asian person? Or what if an Asian person hates a black person?
Starting point is 00:20:20 Or a Hispanic person hates a black person? Like, if you're not white, you can't be racist. So is that not racist? What if an Asian person is black? Oh, yeah. I'm about to bend some minds, yo. People can't believe it. Well, what if everyone in this room hates an Irishman?
Starting point is 00:20:34 Well, you guys all do based on the way I'm treated. Now, to be fair, and I've said this on the show before. And I've said this on the show before. I know people who are, like, actually born and raised in Ireland get upset when you say you're Irish and you've only lived in America. But here's the thing. It's not like I'm the show before. I know people who are actually born and raised in Ireland get upset when you say you're Irish and you've only lived in America. But here's the thing. It's not like I'm not bragging.
Starting point is 00:20:47 It's an admission. All right? This is like, okay, yes. This is where my ancestors are from. I'm kidding. I'm proud of it. But I'm pretty sure everyone in this room is part Irish. No, everyone's got some Irish.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Are you part Irish? Yes. Well, that's because the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world, baby. That's it. All right? That's the truth. But the other thing too is uh i i find it hilarious when i see people talking about me on you know like reddit or something and they
Starting point is 00:21:11 say like people i i don't know why people will be like tim pool doesn't identify as white or whatever and i'm just like i have no idea what that means no dude i don't identify as white what does that mean i don't know what that means. It's supposed to be your skin color, but it's not. No one's white. No one has white skin. It's crazy. But look, the left social justice, Marxist cult or whatever doesn't view race as skin color. They view race as political.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Then later, depending on – man, this is what they do in order to win an argument. They'll use they have two different paths they can take with the same language so they can say, no, I'm not talking about politics. I'm talking about how someone can look at this man, discriminate against him. And then later they'll be like, I'm not talking about skin. I'm talking about the politics of blackness, the political black. It's like, OK, dude, you're talking about whatever gets you power. Exactly. I get it.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Well, and this is the thing. I mean, when they talk about being white or identifying as white, they fail to take into account how an individual person actually identifies themselves. And so I understand their argument that because I'm white, I don't really think about my skin color, et cetera. But if you look culturally at my, you know, upbringing being from an Irish Catholic home in the Chicago area, and you compare that to the upbringing of a white Dutch person or a white English person who was raised in a Protestant home or without religion, you would actually find, and I have found this just based on the churches I've been to throughout my life, is that I have far more in common with
Starting point is 00:22:40 a person on the basis of what religion they were raised in as as opposed to their skin color and so when you're you're talking to a black person or a mexican person who was raised in a catholic household you can just relate on a level that i don't relate to on somebody just because just because they're white it's ridiculous like that's not how i identify i have more in common with people that like play blue and magic the gathering, then they're their skin color. I don't care about, uh, it was, uh, Matt Walsh made this point about, uh,
Starting point is 00:23:08 when he's on Dr. Phil, he said, we can dig up a skeleton hundreds of years later. We can't know what they were thinking, but we can know it's, you know, male or female or whatever.
Starting point is 00:23:15 And I think that, that actually says a lot more than just that conversation. It's, it's like, you are so much more as to who you are on the inside, your values, the things you believe than what you look like. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:23:26 And it's such a funny thing. I joke about this, but like in the United States, Irish people were not like considered white until being white meant you had to apologize for being white. Well, there you go. Yeah. Congratulations. No, I know. But no, it's just interesting because like whiteness is a label that was actually used
Starting point is 00:23:39 to bludgeon my ancestors. So when you look at who was excluded from the united states and the people who had a light skin tone who were considered non-white it was almost always catholic groups and what's frustrating to me is that we're having this conversation and and you know it's one thing to have the conversation it's another thing to be in positions where you're in a school and you're a teacher or you're in government and you're being told you are a bad person because of the color of your skin so the crt or whatever you want to call it this the uh the woke uh approach it's not just about it's offensive morally and intellectually yeah as applied it's illegal okay you're not
Starting point is 00:24:20 supposed to discriminate on the basis of race and select people on the basis of race. I mean we just had settled a lawsuit in Asheville, North Carolina. They had a scholarship program. Only black kids could apply. Completely outrageous. Yeah, that's insane. So we filed a civil rights claim against them and they settled and they changed the rules so that it's race neutral. Well, so let me ask you. But they're trying to undo constitutional protections of equal protection of the law and the civil rights laws of the 60s.
Starting point is 00:24:52 They're trying to do it. We're trying to defend it. And I don't mean us, Judicial Watch. We are literally. But I mean us who are conservatives and follow the rule of law. We actually believe in nondiscrimination. They don't. Isn't that crazy how they flip the script on you guys?
Starting point is 00:25:07 We're the civil rights advocates. The craziest thing to me was this past election when we had California trying to repeal the civil rights language from their constitution. Did you see that one? They called it the Affirmative Action Amendment. It was such a sleazy title for a bill. It literally would just strip out from the California constitution the language says you cannot discriminate on the basis of race, sexuality, or origin or whatever in public accommodation – or no, in public employment contracting and schooling or something like that. And they were like, we need to get rid of this so that we can be fair and treat minorities fair. And I'm like, when we fought for civil rights in this
Starting point is 00:25:46 country to make sure the law would not take these factors into account. And now the left is trying to repeal that language in California. They lost, by the way. But I remember, you know, I've told you guys a story before, but those who haven't heard it, I was talking to a friend of mine, an activist, a prominent, you know, well-known celebrity in Hollywood. And we're having a conversation because we've been drifting apart politically. And I said, what's the racial makeup of California? And it's like 70, was it 70% white or something like that? And I said, so do you think that when California repeals their non-discrimination language from the constitution, that the 70% white majority is going to protect the minorities now?
Starting point is 00:26:26 Or do you think they'll just either consciously or unconsciously start benefiting themselves and their race? And, and, and there's, there's no real answer I get from these people because they don't want to admit they're wrong in repealing this language because it's part of their tribe. But I was like, look, some of these cities in California are like 99% white. And if your perspective is that white people are racist, why would you empower these people to discriminate on the basis of race? And they have no answer. They have none. Now, I got to be honest.
Starting point is 00:26:58 I don't really think white people in California are going to be like, ah, now's our chance to be racist. But if that's their ideology, why would they want to repeal that language unless they actually want to be racist and they actually want to do these things? Yeah, exactly. Well, because these white people aren't going to be like, I can like oppress other people who are non-white, but they could go, I'm going to make myself feel better about this white guilt complex by like discriminating against white people. I don't, I gotta be honest. I, I, I really think that what we're dealing with in the culture war stems largely from those in the know and those who aren't that that's really it i mean if you if you go to i went to the march for our march for our lives i think it was that was the gun thing and i saw all these people holding up signs saying ban assault weapons or whatever right and i'd ask them like you know
Starting point is 00:27:42 what does that mean yeah and And they couldn't tell me. And there are several people that said assault rifles should be illegal or should be – like ban assault rifles. And so I'd stop and I'd talk to people and I'd be like, I wanted to ask you about your son. And I said, so you want to ban assault rifles? And they'd be like, yeah. And I'd be like, well, they're almost entirely banned. You can't make any new ones I think since 1984. And in order to get one now, it requires a special licensing to take up to a year.
Starting point is 00:28:10 The tax stamp. Yeah, the tax stamp. They're typically very expensive. They can be thousands of dollars. And they would go, oh, I didn't know that. I'm like, what are you protesting? I wasn't mean to you. I had one woman. She was holding up a sign, and I asked her these questions.
Starting point is 00:28:21 And then she folded it up, and she was like, oh, I didn't know. I'm like, then what are you protesting? So I genuinely believe a lot of these people just don't know. So this activist friend of mine posted something recently from the March for Life. You know, Seamus, you were down there. Yes. And it was some like lefty guy walking up to protesters and saying, how many children have you adopted? And it was like this bumbling middle-aged woman. She goes, none. And he goes, oh, okay. I've adopted twoaged woman she goes none and he goes oh okay i've adopted two and she goes great and then he goes another how many of you adopted and she's like i i've not adopted any kids and he's like i've adopted two it's like okay and i'm watching this and i'm like what message is my friend trying to convey with this that these two women haven't
Starting point is 00:28:58 adopted any children most people don't adopt children is this an indictment of the pro-life movement yeah they just don't know if they went down there Is this an indictment of the pro-life movement? Yeah. They just don't know. If they went down there and they spoke to any of the organizers, they'd be like, oh. Like a lot of the organizers, a lot of people involved do run charities for helping children and promoting adoption. And they do adopt a whole lot. But they just don't know anything about this. Why? Well, I think apathy.
Starting point is 00:29:26 A lot of people just don't care. They want to pretend to care. It makes them look good on social media, right? Yep. General ignorance. It's not their jobs to be journalists. I don't blame every single person for just not knowing. Some people, look, you work your nine to five, you go home, you want to be with your kids, you want to play maybe throw the football a little bit. You don't got time to sit down and read all this stuff. But I will blame the mainstream press to a great degree. Let me pull up the story we got from Fox News. CNN's Jim Acosta compares Virginia to Soviet-style police state under Glenn Youngkin.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Critics took to social media to blast Acosta's comparison, calling it a bridge to far-end evil. Well, as you all may not be aware, Jim Acosta is doing some show on CNN called Democracy in Peril. I think it's funny that Glenn Youngkin only just got into office. There's no Soviet-style police that have anything. Barely anything's happening. Meanwhile, in D.C., you need to show your papers to get into a restaurant. Yeah, exactly. But not to vote.
Starting point is 00:30:23 But not to vote. So the question, what exactly does it cost to think the parallel is here? He's lying. And I don't know if he's in New York or Atlanta or D.C., but in our nation's capital,
Starting point is 00:30:35 if you want to visit the capital and protest, it's more difficult to do so, especially if you're not vaccinated. If you want to communicate with your elected representatives, it's nearly impossible to do so.
Starting point is 00:30:45 We have that rump committee threatening and talking about throwing out hundreds of members of Congress because they opposed the they were involved in the election disputes. You have the Justice Department talking about investigating thousands of people because they were opposed to the election disputes. That's the Soviet-style approach to governance. You see Joe Walsh on Twitter? No. I know who he is. I didn't see you. He said anybody who tries to put forth a fake group of electors should be investigated or blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:31:18 So let me just – Which Democrats did in 1960 via Hawaii. That's right. So they made up a fake story. Rachel Maddow talks about it. She's like, I've discovered forgery documents. Shut up. They're not forgeries.
Starting point is 00:31:33 What happened was when the election was being contested, whatever your opinion is, is not the point. Republicans said, we are going to fill out the forms the same as the Democrats were, and we're going to submit them. And sure enough, when the official electors came in and were certified for the Democrats, they went and Pence chose them. It was 1960, I believe, right? Nixon versus Kennedy. Hawaii certified Republican electors, but the Democrats decided to go and fill out their own forms anyway. Lo and behold, the courts ruled in their favor. So when the uncertified Democrat electors went to the joint session of Congress, Nixon said, we know what happened.
Starting point is 00:32:12 The courts have ruled. So I'm going to pick these anyway. Imagine that. It's historical precedent. But now you've got these people lying about it. And this is what I say. This is why I say the culture war is between people who know and people who don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Because if you've read, I read about that stuff in 1960 years ago with Nixon. I was reading it years ago with the midterm elections or whatever. And so when all this stuff comes up, I'm like, oh yeah, they just did what happened in 1960, but he lies about it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, in my view, there's a special place in hell for
Starting point is 00:32:41 politicians who want to put their political opponents in jail. I mean, to me, there's a special place in hell for politicians who want to put their political opponents in jail. I mean, to me, that is a particularly grave evil. Should be a special place in jail for him, too. Donald Trump said Hillary Clinton should be in jail. Well, I don't think he said he said she should be. He should be.
Starting point is 00:32:56 She should be prosecuted. And she didn't. He didn't want to put her in jail because she didn't. He didn't like her politics. He thought he committed. She committed crimes. Here you have the leftist saying, oh, participating under the First Amendment in a rally is an evidence of a crime. Participating under the constitutional system to challenge electors and federal law to challenge
Starting point is 00:33:18 electors that we've done since time immemorial, that all of a sudden is a crime. It's more pernicious than that. It's one thing to to say i think this person committed a crime she stole all her emails i mean we were involved in that it's another thing to say i don't like your politics and you should be censored and you're a criminal and a terrorist that's what they're saying in a casual way yeah also i want to mention this i mean the um the the clinton campaign wanted to have u.s intelligence officials brief the electoral college on russian interference in order to sway them so they i mean they have absolutely no respect for the system or ensuring that the electorate or those in the electoral college select those who were voted for we went through five years yeah technically now it's seven years
Starting point is 00:34:03 but i was you know before uh in 2020 had been five years of lies about it's seven years, but before in 2020 it had been five years of lies about Russia and Ukraine and all of that manipulation. Hey, Jim. You want to talk about Soviet-style police state? Let's talk about how some dude who works for the CIA
Starting point is 00:34:20 accuses the president of some nonsense and the people of this country can't even say his name. Please don't say his name because we can't because you want to know who's enforcing the Soviet-style police state. It is the democratic establishment. It is the media, social media. If we say the name of this guy, YouTube will take the stream down. Well, and that's exactly the thing.
Starting point is 00:34:39 So I think the best way to summarize a Soviet-style system and the parallels in America are as follows. In 2016, it was alleged that the election was fraudulent. And in that instance, we investigated those who were elected. In 2020, it was also alleged that the election was fraudulent. This time, we investigated the people making the accusation. Yeah. The law doesn't do anything since 68. They thought Nixon stole the election.
Starting point is 00:35:06 They had secret negotiations with Vietnam. 72, he overwhelmingly won. So the left used Watergate to re-litigate. He cheated his way in. 1980, Reagan had secret talks with Iran. His election was invalid. I saw this. I think Snopes tried doing a fact check on it, but it said something like every election since 1968 the Democrats have claimed has been stolen.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Is that – Well, it's 2000. I was down counting ballots in 2000. Wow. Gore was running around trying to change the results. And then 2000 – well, then now we're in 2016 with Trump. They tried to change the results. I'm just tired of it. I've got to be honest. I'm tired of it with the Trump supporters, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:35:55 I've been tired of it from before this. Look, I just want to get to the point where we move forward, but I think we need to understand at this point, 2016, 2020, 2068, whatever year, I don't care. Nobody's playing by the rules anymore. And I mean that figuratively and somewhat literally. What I mean is it's like Walsh on Twitter being like, we should lock up the people who forged these documents, but they didn't. That's a lie. When they subpoena Alex Jones, these subpoenas from the January 6th committee, we had, I think Bannon may have told us this, expensive.
Starting point is 00:36:32 You can't just get subpoenaed and be like, okay, tell me where to go. It was cash. It's $15,000 to look at it. Just to look at it. Yep. And so what they're doing is they're draining resources. They're using the power of the federal government to suppress, to shut down dissidents. The weight of the government is going after political rivals in a way Donald Trump never did. The man
Starting point is 00:36:55 talked big and said to Hillary, oh, you'd be in jail, and then did nothing. He did nothing. Did you see the Politico story the other day that confirmed or showed that the Capitol Hill Police Department, which answers now to Pelosi and Schumer, Pelosi is the queen of the hill when it comes to security, is gathering intelligence on members under the guise of security, investigating where they're going, who they're meeting with, donors and staff. So you've got this unholy melding of a police force with a political party. I bet that they're thinking if we don't observe and spy on everyone, the Chinese CCP is going to do it.
Starting point is 00:37:31 So we have to take we have to be the ultimate spy network. I think that's the mentality. Well, many of them are on the payroll. So it's bigger than the governments and it's more of a multinational coercive. Yeah, I would get down with that. I do think we're winning. You know, like the raid on James O'Keefe. It just shows you how completely desperate the establishment is to maintain their power.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Now, that was a wild abuse of power. And we just got documents last week. I don't know if you saw. That's right, the Pfizer stuff. I mean, was James talking about it? Was he on with you recently talking about it? He was on, but I don't think we talked about it. I think it was like right afterwards. This was fun because sometimes when they tell you no, you learn something.
Starting point is 00:38:14 So we asked the FBI to give us records about communications with Pfizer about Project Veritas. And they said, we can't give you those because they're in an investigative file. Confirming their existence. Normally they don't confirm it, so it was kind of an odd response. So they've confirmed that Pfizer is working with the FBI somehow to target Project Veritas, who had, for those who don't know, had done some exposés on fetal cells and being involved or fetal organs being involved in the creation and helping guarantee the safety of vaccines, things that they didn't want out there, which are true, but they don't like it out there because people get upset about it.
Starting point is 00:39:00 But that's just – the Veritas thing is a really good example of the desperation, to be that overt with their strategies to go against American journalists. It just shows – to use the metaphor we've used nonstop for the past two weeks, the emperor has no clothes. But they had power for a long time, and it's being ripped from them. I think the internet is what's causing it. Yeah, well, it's just at this point, imagine trusting a journalist who the entire system isn't trying to crush yeah when uh any news channel that puts on adam schiff i'm just immediately like okay it's fake news yeah exactly off exactly nancy pelosi to lap dogs i mean i think it's fair to bring those people on if you're if you're adversarial but you want to make fun of
Starting point is 00:39:38 them you know i don't know i i'm all big part of like ban the account not the person i don't think that just because someone has a track record of lying that they're necessarily lying so i don't know. I'm all big part of like ban the account, not the person. I don't think that just because someone has a track record of lying that they're necessarily lying. So I don't want to discount these people flat out. I understand that there's maybe it's more of a variant scale and maybe someone that lies a lot is like maybe a 7% weight to their statement, but that's still 7%. I don't know, man. So you're right that it is technically possible for somebody to lie about something and then tell the truth later on. But a person loses their credibility. And honestly, there are so many people trying to compete for our bandwidth that I have no interest in giving my attention to someone who I know has lied before. You know, with politics, you don't.
Starting point is 00:40:15 I don't really care whether someone lies too much in politics. I mean, it's a problem. You know, morally, it's objectionable as a voter. It's the corruption that bothers me. Adam Schiff abused his power to take the phone records of Rudy Giuliani and publish them. And then we go to court trying to get the records. And part of their argument was we can do that. We don't need a court authorization to do it. So right now we know that they're taking the phone records of people and who knows, Internet records and potentially, I don't know, millions of people the way they're wording these requests. And there's no control or policing of it.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Yeah. You know, that's an abuse of power. That's corrupt. It's not even they're even using subpoenas anymore. They're just requesting the information. So if you're if you were a supporter of Trump online and made comments on election and you had your account deleted or censored, that's the sort of stuff the Congress is asking for information on. I mean, do you want that in the hands of Congress or Adam Schiff? These are, like I keep on saying, these are,
Starting point is 00:41:16 our republic is under assault. And this isn't political differences. This is a question of whether or not we're going to follow the law and we're going to follow the infrastructure the Constitution has laid out for us and how we govern ourselves, or whether the bad guys are just going to break all the rules to go after their enemies. They changed the law. The Patriot Act's insane. But they made that legal so that now they can legally just take all the records, legally, even though it's still corrupt. Well, yeah. I mean, the FBI hasn't backed off from their targeting of parents as terrorists. I mean, there was controversy about it, but they're still doing it.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Yeah. Let's talk about this story we got here from Timcast.com. Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer to retire. The justice and the Biden administration have not yet released a formal statement. Jen Psaki did say, you know, it's the prerogative of the justice the justice to retire when they feel like it but uh i mean that's the story stephen breyer is going to stay until the end of the term which just is uh when is that ending is that ending october i mean they usually end the term in june sometimes july but normally all the decisions are done by the end of june okay june june yeah all right so um seems to me thatyer, who is considered a liberal justice, they're doing this because they think they're going to be losing the midterms.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Yeah, they force Breyer out. The left had this really unprecedented campaign to pressure Biden, excuse me, to pressure Breyer to retire. I guess there's another campaign to pressure Biden to retire. That's coming from all sides, to be honest. And Breyer had some interviews late last year. He was out, I think, selling a book, or he was being interviewed. And it was pretty clear he had no interest in retiring. And something changed, and they pressured him, and he left. They bullied him off the court. And you can bet the left that bullied a sitting Supreme Court justice off the court is going to demand that Biden appoint an extremist to replace him, not a normal liberal, someone who's extreme.
Starting point is 00:43:12 And so that's going to be the battle. And technically, the Senate can get someone passed for Biden or confirmed by Biden if they get 50 plus one vote, and we'll see what happens. And Kamala would be the tiebreaker, I'd imagine. We're going to need term limits. Unless she's the nominee, if we're going to save. And if we're going to cover the public. But then Lindsey Graham would vote for her.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Lindsey Graham has voted for most of the judges put forward by Biden, at least in committee. Like you were saying how cancel culture can whip up a frenzy so quick now. It's like things can happen so fast that having someone in power for 50 years as a Supreme Court justice is too dangerous. It doesn't make any sense anymore. I think we need term limits. Otherwise, we're going to get a 38-year-old or a 42-year-old that's going to think they're going to be in power for 50 years. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:00 I thought about this. It's an interesting question that should we have a time limit for justices or should it be a lifetime appointment? There's pros and cons. I do like the idea that when someone gets appointed, it kind of puts a pin in the cultural perspective and says like this person, he's 45. He's going to be a justice and he's going to be there for 40 years. It kind of helps. I think it's a stabilizing force. The detriment, however, is you get someone like,
Starting point is 00:44:25 you know, we had a Supreme Court justice who was on his, you know, he was partially comatose or whatever, and he was just like shaking in his bed and they're like, what do we do? He's a lifetime appointment. So, but I don't know. What do you think? You think we should boot him out at a certain age or something? Yeah, I'm sympathetic to that. I think the most, the chief concern is the quality of the judge and his judicial philosophy. So having a judicial supremacist on the court who wants to steal our liberty and steal our self-governance and govern from the bench, if he's on the court for a year, that doesn't do us any good. If he's on the court for 10 years, it doesn't do any good.
Starting point is 00:44:59 But to have someone who defers to the Constitution and applies it as written and originally understood, having them on the court for 30 years is fine. The question is, what is the role of the court in our constitutional system? And it's outsized. You know, we shouldn't be waiting with bated breath about how we're going to govern ourselves on these core issues every June. What's the court going to rule? You know, the court is one branch of our government. And I'm against judicial supremacy. And that should be the big fight. And I would expect that
Starting point is 00:45:32 finally, at least Republicans who share those views, you know, we can't be approving judges just because the president deserves his justice. No, no, no. The people deserve to have their rights protected and not violated by justices who think they know better than elected representatives. Well, amen. There's several laws and there's several rulings. You go back, they just seem to be outright wrong just on the face. I think, well, I'll throw this one to you, Seamus, Roe v. Wade. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Because the big argument is that it should be a legislative issue, not a court issue. The court shouldn't be legislating, right? So break this down for me, though. I'm just trying to highlight the issue without getting too political on it. But the big argument that we heard from Kavanaugh, I think Clarence Thomas, when they were arguing the Mississippi abortion law. They were like, why is this a court issue and not a legislative issue? Well, when you read – and I encourage people to read Supreme Court opinions because they're generally written for public consumption. And if you're literate, you can understand them.
Starting point is 00:46:38 And the left is exposed when their arguments are laid out there. And when you read Roe v. Wade, you see it's written like a piece of legislation. It's a perfect example of legislating from the bench. And it's not appropriate. Abortion has been regulated by the states for most of modern history. Certainly once they started talking about abortion, they were regulating and restricting it.
Starting point is 00:47:03 I know there's arguments about the history. But it was a medical procedure and it was regulated. And there was no federal jurisdiction over making sure that abortion was in the – protecting the abortion right. It's not part of the Constitution. And so you had the courts, certain courts in the Supreme Court, justices who agreed that women should have the right to abortion.
Starting point is 00:47:26 And then they mistook their policy preference for what the Constitution requires. And I talked about, you know, I remember seeing Judge Bork, you know, lose his nomination. And he wrote a book, he called it The Tempting of America. And the great temptation for judges is to get on the bench and impose your political views and call it jurisprudence. So one day after the show here a while ago, now almost a year and a half ago, one of our friends back at the old studio, Nishra, who's Adam's wife, we're all hanging out in the kitchen, and she's from Sweden. So she says says i have a
Starting point is 00:48:06 question the your constitution it says the right to keep in bare arms shall not be infringed and i'm like right and she's like well why are they banning guns and everyone starts laughing just because it's like someone who doesn't live in this country could clearly see how broken the system is and that it makes no sense and And we all laugh because we know. We know that legislating from the bench and not – the court's not properly ruling on our rights. It happens all of the time. The system just seems – it feels like we start with a good foundation and now it's just like this wonky jenga tower of random
Starting point is 00:48:45 blocks stuck in places because people wanted to you know get something for themselves well on the other hand things are going well that's why the left is so upset about the supreme court and they want to expand it you had last week you know you had nina totenberg defame and smear judge gorsuch jane mayor of the new yorker went after justice thomas and his wife afterward you're going after his wife to get at Justice Thomas. You've had this pressure campaign on Breyer. And I keep on talking about all our institutions being under assault. They're trying to blow up the Supreme Court with this court packing scheme.
Starting point is 00:49:17 So that Breyer, Breyer leaving is, you know, he's he's a liberal who probably be replaced with a liberal. But the goal is to pack the court and negate the conservative voices on the court that now are rising and dominating. Yeah. I mean I think the populist view is that Roberts is not conservative and that Kavanaugh hasn't actually done a pretty – a decent job or anything like that. But I don't think they're going to replace Breyer with a liberal. I think they're going to replace him with a Marxxist or something well like that yeah well we'll see what uh senator mansion has to say about it yeah yeah but i i you know yes mansion and maybe cinema because they've they've stood you know they've you know resisted the democratic party's whims but you still have
Starting point is 00:50:01 some republicans who are going to be like now now we got to be accommodating and fair. But it's an election year. So so I think it will be there's a greater chance that Republicans will be unified against a extremist nominee. And it depends who the nominee is. Well, Biden says it's going to be a black woman. Well, again, so now Joe Biden has announced that no male need apply, no white person need apply.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Yeah. How is that legal? Can you guys, I mean, would you guys sue him over that? I don't think you can sue him over that. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:50:34 But that's, I mean, it's so weird that we're at this point in this country. I mean, I always want to sue over everything.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Yeah. And the lawyers say, well, you can, but you won't succeed. Yeah. The saying is, you can sue a ham sandwich.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Another world leader that was obsessed with appointing a specific kind of creature to their role was Caligula, who appointed the Roman emperor, the inbred Roman emperor, who appointed his horse to be a chancellor. But wasn't that he was insulting them? Yeah, he was like making a mockery of the system. This is different. This is racial identitarianism coming from our president for our Supreme Court. Well, it was the same thing with his VP nominee, and it's hilarious because he chose Kamala Harris essentially to pander to progressives because he pigeonholed himself. He said, I have to pick a woman of color, and basically every progressive I know hates Kamala harris so it's beautiful and i can only hope that
Starting point is 00:51:25 they will hate his supreme court nominee just as much but of course i'm sure that i don't like them either the way the democratic party has been going in the past couple years i wouldn't be surprised if biden chooses the most absurd hated person neoliberal establishment and all the progressives start screaming and the democratic senators are like if i vote for this i'm gonna lose so i mean whoever he picks like it is going to be horrible it's going to be a horrible this is what it sounds whoever he picks like we're waiting for daddy to make a move it's so gross how does this one dude get to pick it's called the president to make the decisions constitution gives him the right to appoint the judge. And the Senate has to provide consent and advice, and consent as the term is.
Starting point is 00:52:09 So there is a check in place, and it's going to be a close-run thing. I mean, if Mitch McConnell were in the majority, there'd be no doubt the nominee would get through. My view is Chuck Schumer's been an awful leader for the Democrats. He's been dragged around by AOC and the left, and he's lost control of the Senate. And so I think the president's nominee that otherwise might be able to squeak through might be stopped because of the craziness in our politics right now. Let's talk about this story we got from the L.A. Times. Trial to determine if requiring women on boards is legal. That's talk about this story we got from the LA Times. Trial to determine if requiring women on boards is legal.
Starting point is 00:52:48 That's our trial. So this is your trial. This is a story from back in December. But when you get a president who says the principal determinant for a Supreme Court nominee is going to be race and gender, I'm like, that flies in the face
Starting point is 00:53:01 of the civil rights movement. It flies in the face of what we were fighting for. And it's what the critical race theorists want, the cultural left or whatever. They want your position to be determined based on identity. So in California, what did they do? They passed a law saying that you have to have a woman? The legislature passed a law requiring that a certain number of seats be set aside for women.
Starting point is 00:53:27 And so that means that men can't apply for certain seats on corporate boards of directors in California. It's outrageously illegal. It's a violation of the California Constitution, which even has more broader protections against sexual discrimination than the federal constitution does. And so we've been in court. We have four lawyers out there for six weeks fighting the government who are bringing in all these so-called experts who are pretending that it's right to require women to be on the boards and discriminate on the basis of sex. And the argument they're using, the left's argument,
Starting point is 00:54:04 is, well, it helps corporations to have more women on the boards. There's no real evidence of sex. And the argument they're using, the left's argument is, well, it helps corporations to have more women on the boards. There's no real evidence of that. Even if it did, it's illegal. It's still illegal. It's still illegal. But the point is, they're fighting it.
Starting point is 00:54:15 And so those of us who, when the left says they're in favor of and hate discrimination, that's the big lie of our era. The most interesting development and troubling development is the thorough assault on anti-discrimination law in our schools and our corporations and our military, and you see it now
Starting point is 00:54:35 in the government, that you can target people based on race or sex and discriminate against them, and you'll have all the king's horses and all the king's men. I mean, we're in court suing the state of California. Where is the Justice Department? Where is the Justice Department? The Civil Rights Division is harassing states for requiring voter ID, but allowing discrimination based on sex, race, and every other category to go on in California with nary a peep.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Yeah? Was Trump doing anything about it? The Justice Department under Trump was a disaster, too. I mean, Barr had no interest in doing any of this aggressive thing. Now, I say that knowing that he did do some good things. But the point is the Justice Department institutionally is a locus of evil when it comes to public policy. And they do not believe, and this was true in the Obama administration,
Starting point is 00:55:26 there was an IG report. They didn't believe the laws against racial discrimination applied to whites in voting matters. I mean, that was the finding. Our people who work there told us that. We have some employees. Our attorneys used to work at the Justice Department. They were told that.
Starting point is 00:55:39 It's not designed. We don't believe these civil rights laws apply to all people. We had some guy on the show. I'm not going to say his name, but he was arguing very much in favor of critical race theory and stuff. And he's saying like, you guys want to ban this stuff from schools and blah, blah, blah. My response to this just simply, when Donald Trump wanted to ban the critical race theory trainings for contractors and stuff like that, and these leftists are like, I thought you supported free speech. I'm like, yeah, I do.
Starting point is 00:56:09 I do. I'm just also in favor of enforcing laws, and if it's an illegal discriminatory action based on the civil rights law, we enforce it. Right. So you can't come to me and be like, we like the 1964 Civil Rights Act. We like these rulings. It's like, oh, oh well trump wants to enforce it how dare you we should be allowed to discriminate but you shouldn't it's like that who's who's that guy was it frank herbert was his name when i am weaker than you i ask for freedom
Starting point is 00:56:35 because it's according to your principles when when you know when i'm stronger than you i deny your freedom because that's according to mine was that frank herbert said that i'm not sure you looked at a similar version is it was similar version is evil calls for tolerance until it's ascendant, and then it calls for submission, basically. But the left uses these arguments as a tool. And when the tool becomes not useful, they pass it aside. So anti-discrimination they saw as a political tool. Now they don't like it. They pass it aside.
Starting point is 00:57:06 The Supreme Court they liked when it was Roe versus Wade. But now that they're ruling against us, oh, no, we've got to cast it aside. We used to like the Senate filibuster. But now we need to eliminate the Senate on top of the filibuster. Yeah, that was Colbert. He said that, right? Yeah. The Senate, the Senate.
Starting point is 00:57:21 So when you, you know, like I say, revolutionary moment. Filibuster isn't the target. The target is eliminating any impediment to power. Yeah. Amen. Stephen Colbert goes on his show with Elizabeth Warren. I think this was a week ago, and he says we should get rid of the Senate. And everyone laughs. He's like, I'm going to say this.
Starting point is 00:57:40 Hear me out. Hear me out. Why don't we abolish the Senate? The whole audience laughs. And he goes, I'm 100 serious yeah if you're 100 serious and your audience is laughing at you when you say it you're insane yeah liz is 100 cherokee he was like actually i'm like 0.0019 serious but no it goes to show you how far these people have gone because we one thing that we used to say to make fun of them when they would talk about the electoral college was that at that point they may as well just try to abolish representative government in general
Starting point is 00:58:08 and now they're actually doing this and i've also seen this with respect to the argument that's been made about gun control i've heard a lot of conservatives say well why not ban automobiles because of all the people who die in car accidents and now i'm actually hearing left-wing people argue that we need to shift to a national railway system. Oh, yeah. Never presume the crazy stuff is something they oppose. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So it's like every single, it's like jokes that we will make to highlight the ridiculousness of their worldview tend to become positions that they actually support within a matter
Starting point is 00:58:39 of years. Authoritarianism will do that. If their enemy makes a joke like, well, here they come, the author authoritarians would be like they gave us the green light let's go well trump was criticized for saying that um oh look they're taking down statues of confederates yep are they going to take down statues of jefferson and washington i remember thinking oh yes they will yes i mean that's perfectly i mean we laugh at the craziness, but it's perfectly rational within the Marxist worldview. And they don't find it funny. And they're perfectly willing to go to these extreme circumstances.
Starting point is 00:59:12 I mean, look, the January – I call it the rump committee. The January 6th rump committee is a one-party committee in the House that is exercising legislative and investigative power. Is it actually all one party? Well, there are Republicans who answer to Nancy Pelosi, but who don't represent the minority party. So it's a one-party operation. So how is that consistent with a Republican form of government? No, that should be an external independent organization doing that committee. Well, it shouldn't be.
Starting point is 00:59:43 What they're investigating is their political opposition. I mean, when you talk about the USSR, that's the playbook. Also, speaking of the statues, do you remember when NPR did a fact check on Trump's statement that they would eventually go after statues of people like Washington and Jefferson? And they fact checked his prediction before it happened, saying it was incorrect. Don't get me started on the fact-check. They're fantastic.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Yeah. I used to think that we should get rid of the Republicanism. I thought the House of Representatives is – this is like 2007. I was talking to Mike Gravel, actually. He was an Alaskan senator at the time. And I was able to communicate with him a little bit. And I thought – it's just I saw them getting bribed. I saw the stopgap of
Starting point is 01:00:25 like, only these guys get to make the laws. It just felt like they were all corrupt. I wanted it gone. I was like, why can't we just have the Americans pass the laws into the Senate and then let the Senate be the stopgap? Why do we need this House of Representatives anymore? We have internet and Gravel is like, no, no, we need the House of Representatives. And I was like, is he just brainwashed because he's from that system? Or do we actually need this? I don't know. I don't think they should have the monopoly on lawmaking, though. Yeah, I mean, the founders wanted kind of a, the Republican system has Democratic
Starting point is 01:00:57 outlooks. But it kind of is also designed to suppress the vote by, you know, just had the popular vote be promoted directly. So that the passions of the moment don't result in legislation being passed. Everyone gets angry about Joe Rogan and he gets banned because there's this backlash. And then, oh, what happens the next day? Well, he's banned because it was passed because they had a vote that was national that resulted in him getting banned. You don't want to be on the wrong end of that. And when you have liberties that are protected by law
Starting point is 01:01:35 and are supposed to be protected by law at all times under a constitution, you don't want to have those subjected to uh you know the popular passions as well so we have a republican form of government with democratic aspects and the left hates it we we we've had this conversation before ian where i said all everyone in this room all in favor of taking ian's stuff from him yeah everybody everybody raise your hand everyone agrees okay and give us your stuff well then you'd have to send it to the Senate, and the Senate would look at it and be like, what's this insane stuff, and who is this person that tried to pass this in? The point is when you have direct democracy, we can just vote to take from you.
Starting point is 01:02:13 I like the Senate. I'm just saying the House of Representatives. I don't understand the value. They represent the people, and the Senate represents the states. But they don't represent the people. That's the problem. They're supposed to one person represents 700,000 people. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 01:02:25 No, they represent their own interests. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Ian, 750,000 people. Thank you for the update. It's a lot of people. And they don't. And they don't. And this is something that Colbert said when Kyrsten Sinema was like, the filibuster makes sure that legislation has to have a broad range of support.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Colbert goes, no, no. You represent 40 – he's like, the party filibustering makes sure that legislation has to have a broad range of support colbert goes no no you represent 40 the party filibustering represents 41 million less people colbert thinks that the 50 or the 49 of illinois that are republican or whatever the number is just blindly agree with their senator because the election was won. No, that's not how it works. Right. In fact, there is a great deal of Republicans in many of these blue states who are very, very, very unhappy.
Starting point is 01:03:14 So when Colbert is like, but you represent more people. Yeah, well, those 41 million people are probably conservatives who don't like you, who don't agree with you. So it's not as simple as just be like, do whatever you want when you get power. Well, I mean, it's like this argument about the popular versus the electoral vote. What the left does is they take numbers and apply them to a game that the numbers aren't – that are outside the game's rules. So, oh, no, the Yankees really won last year because they got more strikeouts than whoever won the World Series. Well, that may be interesting as a matter of fact, but that's not the way the game was played.
Starting point is 01:03:48 And no one played the game to get more strikeouts. So no one plays the game in presidential elections to get more of the popular vote. So it's irrelevant to analysis of who gets more votes or not. Yeah. And it's the same at the congressional level and the Senate level. It's the popular vote. It's not relevant to the game. It's an indication because if one team got like a hundred times more strikeouts than any other team but they still didn't win, you might think maybe the game's being played
Starting point is 01:04:20 wrong. Well, for instance, Trump doesn't campaign in California. So all that popular vote that's run up for Democrats in California is never countered because playing the game means that Republicans don't go and ask for the popular vote. Now, if there was a popular vote contest every four years, Democrats think they'd win. No, the game would change and Republicans would start agitating For the popular vote And who knows who would win
Starting point is 01:04:49 Well no, if there was a popular If one day they said, hey everybody guess what 2024 is going to be a popular vote It wouldn't just change the rules of the game The country would be ripped apart by chaos and fighting Of course the left doesn't believe in the popular vote Because they want to change the electoral college So let's say that Texas votes majority for Trump, but the majority of electors are voting for Biden or the popular vote is different in other states.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Texas has to ignore their popular vote. Yeah. It's all a game. And I prefer the game the founders set out for us rather than the game the left is trying to come up with now. Yeah. So the first time I ever voted was in Cook County. How many times did you vote? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Only once, believe it or not. But I don't question the legitimacy of Cook County elections. I will say this. I remember feeling like it was a protest vote because it's just such a deep blue county and Illinois is such a blue state that I didn't think it was going to have any effect. So I voted for who I wanted to, but I recognized probably wasn't going to have an effect. And I knew a lot of people who didn't vote, a lot of conservatives who didn't vote because they knew the state was going to go blue. I think you're right that if we did change to a system that was purely based on the popular vote, there actually is a chance that the Republicans would win because a lot of people who are disillusioned by the politics of their local municipality or state would
Starting point is 01:06:09 start voting. That said, I agree with you. It's not and it would not be an improvement. I want to talk to you guys about the leftists in this country. We'll segue into that. We got the story from Mashable. Oh, man. Anti-work subreddit goes private after rough fox news interview yikes saith mashable
Starting point is 01:06:27 i would like to introduce you to a subreddit called anti-work my understanding after uh some cursory research is that the point of this forum was it was people who thought no one should have to have a job you should be allowed to get food, shelter, and whatever given to you without doing any work. It started to grow rapidly. 1.7 million followers of this subreddit, this forum. It quickly changed, however, into a work reform where it was like, hey, we just want rights. We want to do work, but we got to get paid better. Now, ultimately, I think this message is co-opted by the left and that's what poisoned it. But here's what happens. Fox News reaches out to interview someone from the forum of 1.7 million people who don't want to work or who don't like working. And so this is what I read.
Starting point is 01:07:20 Basically, someone, they all held a poll where they said, okay, should we do this? Everyone voted. The majority said, do not go on Fox News. Oh, boy. One of the moderators decided to go on fox news anyway it was a um autistic non-binary individual i believe who appeared on fox news wouldn't look directly into the camera and was shying away in a messy room with an inarticulate message that seemed wishy-washy saying things like i have to walk dogs 25 hours a week and i shouldn't have to do that to
Starting point is 01:07:45 be able to eat and survive and i i think probably that was more articulate than the person was this caused brigading people rushing into the subreddit and then ultimately it shut down now they're saying they may come back but what i find fascinating in this whole story the anti-work movement the the rapid explosive spread fox Fox News covered this from only a year ago to tens of thousands of followers to 1.7 million. When you go to the subreddit, and these are people who are outright saying, I shouldn't have to have a job. This is the mentality of the modern left. So I'll warn, I will first say, a lot of the work reform arguments from many of these people many of them
Starting point is 01:08:25 leftist i completely agree with someone takes out 20 grand in school loans now they owe 100 because of interest and i'm like okay that i can understand is a problem agreed if you take out a loan for 20 grand and there's some interest on it i can recognize you know you got to pay it back and you got to pay back the interest but when it's when it's massive and that's for a lot of people then i'm basically like yo the system is corrupt we got to shut that down i can respect that but when you come out and say things like and i shouldn't have to do any work i should just get stuff i'm like which slave you know will you be which person will you be enslaving which group of people in order to have them do the work to make your food because food doesn't come from nowhere i mean even when it grows on the trees someone's still
Starting point is 01:09:04 gotta go get it for you exactly no. No such thing as free lunch. And every single thing you have that you didn't work for, somebody worked for without having. And sometimes that's fine because it's voluntary. Somebody gave the charity, they wanted to help you. And then sometimes that's not fine because it was forcibly taken from the person when you yourself could have been earning money. It's interesting how our conception of work has changed over the past hundred years, maybe even just the past 50 years. But people used to see their job as something that gave them meaning and they no longer do. And there are a lot of reasons for that. And I'm not just
Starting point is 01:09:33 blaming workers themselves for having this attitude. I think in many respects, the working class are not treated well. I don't think the left has done a great job representing them historically. And I think that they need people who are willing to fight for them, who actually have some level of contact with them and don't despise them and their values, which they don't right now. But ultimately, people used to conceive of their work as that which they contributed and that which they were adding. And now we have this idea that there are certain jobs that are worth doing because what is being done at those jobs is valuable. And then basically every other job is pointless and it's humiliating to have to do it. But the reality is there's dignity in all work. And yes, workers should be treated with more dignity. I agree
Starting point is 01:10:13 with that completely. But the idea that, well, there are just certain jobs nobody should have to do is absurd because all of those jobs need doing. So what you should be saying is respect the people doing it. You shouldn't be saying, I shouldn't have to work to survive. It's insane. There's a meme that I saw that I think sums up a lot of the culture war. It was my brother posted it. It said people who are unvaccinated and oppose the vaccines don't want you to get it because they're scared you could die.
Starting point is 01:10:38 The people who are vaccinated and want you to get it are scared they could die. And regardless of the vaccine opinion i'm not asserting anything about vaccines it's just a meme yeah it's just interesting that there's this perspective of oh no i don't want you to be hurt and the other perspective is you better do this so i don't get hurt yeah i bring that up because and always talk to your doctor about private medical decisions but i bring this up in this context because what I see often from the left and like the anti-worker community is I shouldn't have to work and I should get stuff. And then my attitude is let me make as much stuff as possible and then help others with that stuff I have. Exactly. It's so weird, isn't it? Yeah. And so I think historically,
Starting point is 01:11:20 and again, this is easy for me to say, right? Because I started a small business when I was 18 years old. It turned out to be very successful. I get to do something that's difficult at times, but that I genuinely love doing. And there are a lot of people who have jobs that are very difficult. They're not in the position that I'm in. And so I totally understand that. But at the same time, I'll hear people say things like, you know, I have to work for 40 hours a week. That's unnatural.
Starting point is 01:11:41 In the past, people used to take pride in the fact that they were spending that amount of time contributing. The problem now is in this job economy that we've found ourselves in. The Federal Reserve loves this. They want two people and they're like, I don't have a job. What do I do? The Federal Reserve will be like, well, we have an idea or whoever is in control, you dig a hole and then you come over and fill that hole back up once it's done. And we'll print $100,000 and then we'll give you $50,000 and you $50,000. But you're going to have to start paying us interest back on that $100,000. So they win.
Starting point is 01:12:12 The more money they can give out, the more win they get. So people are aware. They've awakened to the pointlessness of a lot of these jobs. Now, when you define work, that's a scientific word. That means it's an energy transfer in joules. It can be measured. We're working right now. If you're thinking you're producing work, what is the work?
Starting point is 01:12:30 Is it contributing to society? That's so important. And that's really important because you sort of mentioned these work projects. And I've heard people discuss this idea that, yeah, in times of economic downturn, what we should be doing is creating these jobs that we don't actually need so that we can get people back in the workforce. And what that fails to take into account is that the purpose of a job isn't simply so that somebody can have something to do all day. The purpose of a job is to find a way for a person to be able to contribute to society at large. And it goes back to what we were discussing earlier with these discriminatory practices of only wanting to hire someone on the basis of their sex or skin color
Starting point is 01:13:05 because what you're basically saying at that point is we're not interested in whether you're qualified for the position because the position doesn't exist for the people you're supposed to serve in that role the position exists for you to feel special because you have that position that is how we view work nowadays i'm just gonna leapfrog so much of this conversation because i'm in my mind i'm just like, you know, hopscotching through all the points. Church. That's where it ends up. Church. It's exactly community. People have no purpose.
Starting point is 01:13:32 They have no purpose. So when they're complaining about work, it's because these jobs aren't fulfilling to them. They feel like they're wasting their time, their lives, and their energy, and they want to do something else. But they don't have anything else either, so they get ideological. Yeah. I'm not saying, so I just want to clarify too, I'm not an overtly religious person, but my point is that when there was church, there was community and there was purpose
Starting point is 01:13:53 for people. And that's what people are lacking now that we're an increasingly secular country. Exactly. And I'll add this and also clarify in case there's any doubt about this here. As I've mentioned earlier, I think the working class does need to be treated better. I think there are so many jobs that we view as indignant or beneath people, and they're not. And part of the way we change that is we really need to admire the people who do those jobs because they're really important. And church is important here because as a Roman Catholic, at basically every church that I've been to in my adult life, and particularly the Latin Mass that I've been to in my adult life, and particularly the Latin Mass that I've attended for the past few years, there is an intersection of so many different
Starting point is 01:14:31 people from various economic classes and standings. And I don't think people have that anymore because they don't have religion. When I think about the friends that I've made through my church and my primary friend group, basically all from different income brackets. I can't think of any other social organization I'm a part of where that's the case. Public school. But part of why I think that's really helpful is because it does put you in touch with, like, I'm not only, if I wasn't going to that church, if that wasn't my faith community
Starting point is 01:15:00 there, I might only be in touch with other people working in artistic fields or doing politics on the internet. But instead, I'm in touch with people who are plumbers or painters, artists of a different variety, or work for a union. We should create an award ceremony for trade jobs so that we can highlight... I'm half kidding. But we as a society, sports athletes, celebrities, they get all of the attention we have to give. And then the people who are actually making this country work don't get any of it. And I think there's a spiritual component. You're right to say that.
Starting point is 01:15:32 But I also think there's this elitism as well that work is beneath me. Yes. That I shouldn't have to do this. And one of the arguments that's always bothered me about immigration and legal immigration is like, they do the jobs that Americans won't do. I'm like, well, first of all, there's virtually no industry where immigrants are the majority. And so Americans are doing these jobs, and they're not beneath anybody to do. In fact, many of our parents and grandparents did jobs like this as well, and it wasn't beneath them. And they recognized that the work and the money they earned from that helped provide for their families, which was the most important thing in the world. So they're elitists.
Starting point is 01:16:16 They're torn from the world, from the community, as you talk about spiritually. And there's this leftist contempt generally for the concept of work. You go to the anti-work subreddit, what do you see? Their related subreddits are socialist, communist, anarchist, leftist anarchist. You look at the related subreddits, work reform, the communist fist is their symbol. It's remarkable, this ideology that infects these forums, when the issue is more to do with what you can contribute, just doing hard work, rolling up your sleeves. It's not about anybody else. It's not about a grand ideology. It's not about someone ripping you off. It's about you valuing your life, your time, your energy, and what you do. But all of them just get infected by leftist ideology.
Starting point is 01:17:02 Then in comes the cultural leftist ideology, and then they implode on themselves. Yeah. Well, you know, this idea that there are jobs that Americans are unwilling to do. I mean, this is a country where we have, you know, abortionists, pornographers, prostitutes, the idea that there are just these jobs that are so far beneath the dignity of Americans and what they're willing to accept is ridiculous. It is the case that there are certain wages an American will not work for, and that is why they want to import people to do those jobs. Here's the big problem with the leftist ideology in these subreddits is that they're doing nothing to stop the mass wave of illegal immigration. That's right. And so they're wondering why it is you bring up those wages they won't work for. Well, when you bring in where we had two million people entering this country without any sense of
Starting point is 01:17:44 where they would go and how they will survive. All of a sudden now, these college kids who are looking for entry-level positions, you're not going to get out of college and go work for a firm. You're going to get out of college and go work for a Starbucks while you try to figure things out, maybe find an internship. But you're not going to be able to do that either because now all of a sudden you're walking up and you're seeing a huge line of people who want work so all of these entry-level positions that you know they say the minimum wage should
Starting point is 01:18:09 be 15 an hour it would be if the supply of low-skill labor was reduced right well you know the unions used to be opposed to mass immigration if they were honest if they were well-run union unions who were creative they'd be saying okay, if we're going to have a government program that depresses wages, meaning mass immigration, well, we have to make up for that with, as you point out, with an increase in the minimum wage. So big corporations, you can get your immigrants, but we get on our side because we're subsidizing your labor costs with a government program. We get to ensure that our employees and union members get increased wages. It's a major issue. What if you raised the minimum wage only for large corporations? They don't care.
Starting point is 01:18:58 They wouldn't care. It's a rounding error. But what would happen is they couldn't hire as many people, but more people would be benefiting from working there. But they would still limit their ability to hire mass. They would just increase the prices, and it would have the same effect on the local economy. But then people wouldn't buy their stuff because their prices would go up. That's maybe partially true. Or they'd hire less people to save them money.
Starting point is 01:19:19 But what they would do is – And the business couldn't grow. No, no, no. Ian, Ian, Ian. Here's what would happen. If you went to Starbucks and – and they do increase minimum wage based on company size as well in a lot of places. Like if you have 50 or more employees or 150. But here's what happens. Starbucks – well, you know, let's not say Starbucks.
Starting point is 01:19:37 Let's say S-Bucks. Seattle Bucks, yeah. Seattle Bucks Cafe will find a location where there's a mom and pop cafe they'll open up next door and purposefully lose money with ridiculously low prices you know why because a regular person is going to walk up and there's a mom and pop shop five buck frappuccino and they're gonna look over at starbucks four buck frappuccino starbucks loses a dollar on every sale but they're strangling yes a small business who doesn't have the coffers to fight back. So if you came out and said, okay, okay, then we should raise the minimum wage on these bigger companies.
Starting point is 01:20:14 Walmart's going to sit back with the cigar in their mouth and be like, oh, we can sink all of them. We're going to drop our prices because we have billions upon billions in profits. We're going to take a 20% loss on that store, and we'll pay your minimum wage. And then once we eliminate all of the local shops, local bakeries gone, local butcher shop is gone, local clothing store is gone, then we're going to crank the prices way up to accommodate those losses, and you can't do anything about it. There's nowhere to go. Inflated wages and reduce the cost of their sales. You think that's a big risk for a large corporation?
Starting point is 01:20:47 That's a big risk. No, it isn't. I think it is. In San Francisco, Starbucks is across the street from Starbucks. I'm not even kidding. Have you guys seen this? Yeah. All over the place.
Starting point is 01:20:57 There's literally a Starbucks and across the street, Starbucks. I think there was a Starbucks inside of a Starbucks. No, that was an Onion article. No, that was an Onion article. It sounds true, though. It might happen. In Chicago, there was one intersection where there's, on the southwest
Starting point is 01:21:07 corner of Starbucks and the northeast corner of Starbucks. They don't make money doing that. They dominate and take over. Bro, these corporations make so much in profits with all of these locations that they can sacrifice one location to defeat you, the people,
Starting point is 01:21:24 the working class. Oh, so you think they'll lower the prices at a you, the people, the working class. Oh, so you think they'll lower the prices at a specific location. That's what they do. So if a local jurisdiction says our city is increasing the minimum wage, they'll say, okay, we will pay that, and then we're not going to raise prices. We're going to make sure our prices are low enough that anyone who could compete with us in an X-mile radius is put out of business. Then then we can charge whatever we want and they'll get their money back if if yeah to an ignorant populace yeah that would work if people know what's the time yeah they do it all the time to an ignorant pop an ignorant populace if people knew what they were
Starting point is 01:21:57 doing and that they were trying to put businesses out of business and they realized that they do they don't care this is why i said yesterday you do but let i said this yesterday let me know if you agree tom i said if you went to your average american i don't care if they're liberal conservative otherwise and said all of the good in your life your wages the cheap gas everything we will allow you to keep but we need you to sign this document to kill a bunch of kids overseas. I say they would sign it. I say the average American would be like, don't end on – just don't tell my friends I did. People walk up to Starbucks knowing exactly who they are and what they do, right? I mean we just went and bought a bunch of Starbucks because they got rid of the vaccine mandate.
Starting point is 01:22:38 That's a specific action. Don't rope me in on this one. You did it, Tim. Yeah, but that I stand by. I stand by. When a company does the right thing, I want them to do more of the right thing. So I'll call them out now. And it's not just about Starbucks because, you know, look, I've only heard the anecdotes about Starbucks.
Starting point is 01:22:52 Go ahead. No, I was going to say, like, fact check me on that. I may be wrong. But, yeah, I don't know about Starbucks specifically, but it is true that businesses will intentionally take a loss in order to destroy their competitors. But can they take the level of loss of having their wages go up and their sales cost go up? That's a big change. Depends on how much the change is in either direction. The quote Nancy Pelosi when she's defending her individualized stock trades, that's capital.
Starting point is 01:23:17 Yeah. And the challenge is that you may not like it. It's like, how do you fix it? And the only way to fix it is through a regulatory scheme run by incompetence liars or lying incompetence. So there's no good answer to that. If you don't – I sometimes shop in places that aren't chain stores because I know I'm getting a little bit more customer service and that's good. And other times I'll go to starbucks because i like the coffee there i gotta be honest out here even in west virginia the local uh coffee and bagel shop has a mask mandate by choice and the
Starting point is 01:23:50 starbucks doesn't drop that mandate dog you heard it here first can we talk about nancy pelosi for a second nancy pelosi so she's running for re-election nancy pelosi has announced he's running for re-election oh good for heaven help us Is she just doing this because it looks like the 2029 Democrats are resigning? 2029. You mean the 29 Democrats are resigning? Yeah, 29 Democrats are about to resign. So she's like, well, we're going to lose the entire House to the Republicans, so I need to stay here. You think that's why she's –
Starting point is 01:24:18 Yeah, I mean she can retire at any time or end her campaign at any time. You know what I think we should do? And hear me out. I'm 100% serious. I believe some nice gentleman should bring in a wheelchair to her office, place her in it, put a blanket on her lap, and wheel her out, bring her to a home,
Starting point is 01:24:36 and make sure she's comfortable. And then we the people will decide what to do next. Are you suggesting she has a Joe Biden problem? Nancy Pelosi? Yeah. I mean, she's just old and out of touch and incompetent. And at a certain point, we have an age minimum, but perhaps we require an age limit as well. She shakes when she talks.
Starting point is 01:24:57 Well, we were talking about this. And her teeth fall out. I mean, we're talking about this before the show started. You know, compare and contrast the mental acuity of Dr. Fauci. Who's 81. Exactly. With Joe Biden and or Nancy Pelosi or many others. To be fair, Fauci has flip-flopped so often, maybe he does have some kind of brain thing going on.
Starting point is 01:25:18 I mean, it's true. It's so much more about the individual person. You can't really put in a blanket statement and say at this age the person has to step down because some people are just sharp at an older age the nice thing about comparing biden then why do you have an age minimum minimum no i mean i well i think the age minimum is a life experience thing i think that's a big part of it i mean you do you want like a 21 year old in any of these positions yo if there's somebody who started working in you know like a factory with like their family or whatever when they were seven and they've got 15 years
Starting point is 01:25:48 of experience in a political and industrial environment, it's better than a 25-year-old who just graduated from college. What about non-Americans? I hear what you're saying. What do you mean? Like Elon, a non-American that moves to the United States when they're two, but they can't be president
Starting point is 01:26:04 and they have all these restrictions on what they can be in government. Do you think that we should get rid of that stuff? No, I think that's good. I think that's fine. But age restrictions, do you think we should get rid of? Age restrictions? No, I'm in favor of putting more on. Oh, I thought you said a young genius should have access to it.
Starting point is 01:26:17 I said we should have an age limit for old people. And he said, but you can't determine the life experience, blah, blah, blah. Some people. And then I said, well, we do it for young people. My point is we have a minimum. We should have a maximum. I'm not saying definitively I completely 100% believe we should have a maximum. I'm saying let's entertain the possibility that someone who's 80 should probably retire.
Starting point is 01:26:37 You could do cognitive tests. The laws they are passing, they will not live underneath. No, they don't do tests. Okay, so if a society grows great when people plant trees whose shade they know they'll never sit beneath, 80-year-olds like Pelosi and old people like Biden are not planting trees for anyone. Yeah. They're not going to see whatever happens. They don't care. It's a complicated – go ahead.
Starting point is 01:26:58 Well, it's just – it's a complicated thing because I do think that it's's an age floor is a bit different from an age ceiling here but ultimately we have a system that's structured so that like because you leave office eventually everyone's sort of incentivized to just pull what they can out of the system for as long as they can until they leave without really thinking about the long-term consequences because let's say you have a young politician, and it's like they're not going to have to live under the policies anyway because there are different laws for them. They're above it.
Starting point is 01:27:33 Well, so my proposal was the island. The island. Which is? As soon as you leave office, you get sent to an island where you will live with other people who have left office. You will own nothing, and you'll be happy i have an island where i put people but we do different categories a flying island i don't know maybe they can go along with them uh i don't seriously think you know that idea uh is the right idea but i i'm just trying to think
Starting point is 01:28:00 like how do you stop someone from saying i'm gonna run for office i'm gonna get in i'm gonna extract as much as i can and then i'm going to run away you don't that's all any of them do well right i mean that's how you stop it to me i don't know it might be built into democracy and representative democracy i i this is advice as head of judicial watch we're non-partisan i give to all politicians to me running on a reform agenda would be a solution there. And that agenda would include term limits, balanced budget amendments, significant cuts to the federal government. Because what happens is it's not someone who's 80. It's someone who's 80 who got there when they were 40.
Starting point is 01:28:39 You know, I prefer having someone there 75 to 85 there for 10 years. You know, that experience is of great value to society. So that's not the issue. The issue is the term of office that politicians are in. And to me, you know, I know there are a lot of conservatives who don't like the idea of term limits. I don't think it's a silver bullet. But what happens is it breeds the worst aspects of being a politician. You're right. Cynicism, institutionalism,
Starting point is 01:29:07 contempt for other people's views who aren't in Congress because you've known it all since you've been there forever. No, no, no. We need new blood every few years. You're right. And I think I will revise my The Island statement and just say,
Starting point is 01:29:21 perhaps the solution is Logan's Run. Great movie. Yeah. Seamus, are you familiar? I have solution is Logan's run. Great movie. Yeah. Seamus, are you familiar? I have, I have not seen Logan's. So when you turn 30,
Starting point is 01:29:31 when you turn 30, you, uh, you know, you get, you shuffle off the mortal coil. Are you, uh, people have lights,
Starting point is 01:29:35 spoiling it. People have lights. Yeah. I mean, we laugh. We laugh, but that's been the approach with Briar. Briar could die in office.
Starting point is 01:29:44 You know, that's why they were angry at at um what's ruth bader ginsburg that's a great died during the trump administration she should have gotten out that's a great uh uh satirical article red light on briar's hand begins blinking red yeah that's forced to retire that's the way the left looks at supreme court justices in logan's run they had lights on their hands and it was like when they were young, it was green. When they're getting old,
Starting point is 01:30:06 it turns yellow. When they're about to turn 30, it starts blinking red. And then Logan's run is, you know. He runs. Yeah, he runs. He's like,
Starting point is 01:30:12 I don't want to die. I'm only 30. He's like, all right, bye. We got a runner. We got a runner. Dude escapes this trophy just by running. They could remake that movie
Starting point is 01:30:19 and they could do it really, really well. They kind of did. So there was a film I saw a few years ago. It was like, I saw it recently, but it came out about 10 years ago. It's with Justin Timberlake. It's not exactly the same, but you have like – you have a barcode on your arm that says the amount of time that you're alive for when it counts down to zero.
Starting point is 01:30:34 And you can buy time. But you can buy time, yeah. So wealth is the amount of time you have. So like not exactly the same, but kind of a different twist on a similar concept. Yeah, that one – I think I saw that. I think that's a cool concept. Yeah. So maybe we – I don't know. It's weird.
Starting point is 01:30:47 These sci-fi dystopian movies aren't really the solution to our problems. It would have to be in a dream. Like they trap you in your metaverse and then you have to run in the dream because in the real life, if you try and run, there's drone bombs and like lasers. But in the dream, you can run away. No, no, Ian. You run for office and you get – And then you run to get away from office. So a term is four years. You run for Congress.
Starting point is 01:31:10 Boom, you're in for four years. As soon as that four years is up, there's no re-election. You get locked in the matrix. Wow. That's it. You're just out. We don't have the technology, so it's just going to be Mark Zuckerberg duct-taping Oculus to your forehead and putting you in the metaverse? You can't get out.
Starting point is 01:31:23 You're covered in bed sores yeah the theory is there was an old the old play dr marlo by uh well no faustus by christopher marlo uh he's dr faustus yeah faustus is dealing with the devil mephistopheles and he said how did you get out of hell mephistopheles he said this is hell nor am i out of it so we're still in the Matrix. Yeah, man. You know, maybe, maybe. I think the metaverse is coming. I think we're all going to get locked inside of it. We're in our Matrix.
Starting point is 01:31:53 You can measure the Matrix we're in if you know how much of something, what it is, and where it is. And you can measure that in the XYZ axis, this cube that we're within. Okay, I have no idea what that means. You can do a spot check to find the Matrix. Yeah, spot check to find the Matrix. I got it. no idea what that means. You can do a spot check. Yeah, spot check. Define the name. I got it. You might have forgotten.
Starting point is 01:32:06 Maybe you can recreate it. Everyone, my proposal is this. When we elect Joe Rogan as president in 2028, he should issue an executive order mandating DMT passport requirements for access to bars, restaurants, and universities. Ideally. Did you smoke your DMT?
Starting point is 01:32:21 What? Have you smoked DMT? Have you had your DMT booster? It wears off. I think to Joe Rogan's credit, Did you smoke your DMT? What? Have you smoked your DMT? Have you had your DMT booster? It wears off. I think to Joe Rogan's credit, I don't think Joe Rogan would vote for Joe Rogan. No, I agree. Good point. Love the humility.
Starting point is 01:32:34 That's true. But the great thing about Joe is it's his guests. They talk a lot about Joe Rogan. And he is a genius. Like, he'll talk himself down. But the way he can sit there and listen to Jordan Peterson, you need a genius to do that. He's the Larry King of the internet age. Yeah. And shout genius to do that. He's the Larry King of the internet age. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:45 And shout out to his guests. I mean, really. There is something to be said about a passport for some kind of deeper understanding of reality. I don't think it's necessarily DMT. That's the joke. But perhaps if we as a society were like a service guarantees citizenship or something to that effect. Like you need to understand something you need to do work and contribute for something in order to get to get something in return right now
Starting point is 01:33:10 it's it's you know we had that famous quote ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country it's completely inverted these days yeah yeah well there's a war on citizenship i mean the whole the whole zeitgeist now is to eliminate the distinctions between citizens and non-citizens. Oh, New York's? Yeah. So, I mean, they want you to be – it's offensive to the transnational progressives. They don't believe in nation-states and sovereignty because it gets in the way of the communist utopia they're pushing. Yeah, I got it.
Starting point is 01:33:41 And I wouldn't have said this six years. I mean, you knew this was out there among the Marxists for a long time. But now there's kind of a rising communism in a major party here in the country that this is their go-to strategy. It's not coincidence. I mean, when CRT is the guiding movement and narrative for a presidential administration,
Starting point is 01:34:02 you know, those pushing it must be very proud. Dude, Build Back Better is a Klaus Schwab thing. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, presidential administration you know those those pushing it must be very proud dude build back better is a klaus schwab thing now and to correct me if i'm wrong but this is part of the world economic forum's great reset is build back better this is where i first heard of it and then all of a sudden a year later joe biden is saying those words as if we're going to do it without referencing klaus schwab and please correct me if i'm wrong if klaus schwab didn't say it then i'm totally off base but i I remember talking about this. It was all over Europe.
Starting point is 01:34:26 I think Boris Johnson claimed Biden stole it from him because Build Back Better was all over Europe. Okay. Well, Nancy Pelosi used Drain the Swamp when she ran to take control of Congress in 2010. Really? There's nothing new under the sun. Yep. And Make America Great Again was Ronald Reagan. Yep.
Starting point is 01:34:46 Morning in America. Yeah. Morning in America. This is exactly right. Klaus Schwab first started circulating the idea of the Great Reset, which uses build back better, integral parts. So we are co-opted. Are we allowed to say the Great Reset?
Starting point is 01:34:58 Yeah. The Great Reset is very, very plain. I know all these algorithms get triggered by certain words. It's either directly influenced and is co-opted our president or indirectly. But this methodology of building back better with a socialized corporate political government state is in Joe Biden's head, whether he realizes it or not. Well, certainly with COVID, you know, initially there was this panic craze decision making on the shutdowns. Now it's vindictive and vicious, and they see it as an opportunity for dramatic political and social change.
Starting point is 01:35:30 I mean, I don't think it's any mistake you had this Reddit thing pop up with, I don't want to work, after two years of people not having to work. All right, everybody, let's go to Super Chats. If you have not already, smash the Like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends.
Starting point is 01:35:45 It really does help. And go to TimCast.com. Subscribe. We're going to have a members-only segment talking about election stuff. That'll be up around 11 or so p.m. But let's read what we got here. We got Dylan Hernandez says, I subscribed to your TimCast monthly plan. I used PayPal to leave it as my auto pay.
Starting point is 01:36:00 Have not used PayPal in months. Just let the payments go through. But days ago, PayPal banned my account. Didn't do anything but give you money. Yep. I can't say I'm surprised. I don't know if it has anything to do with us, but maybe, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:36:15 maybe it was because you didn't use the account, to be completely honest. If you set up an account with PayPal and then you turn on autopay and then don't do anything with it, they might send you an email and be like, hey, is this account still active? And if you're not really paying attention, they might say, okay, shut it down. It could be one reason. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:36:31 I know. All right. Let's see. Blue C says, check my ads posted. You are next. Yeah, that's – they're just trying really, really hard to get attention. So congratulations. The super chat works in their favor.
Starting point is 01:36:43 But I got to be honest. We are principally not funded by ads you know we uh it's this weirdest thing where the left is going after like dan bongino and uh i think ben shapiro maybe i don't know but it has something to do with january 6th and they're like we're gonna get all their advertisers removed from their show and i'm just like we do direct ad reads like i read the ads in the show and we only do six per month so like so you do advertising like traditional radio advertising where the host is reading an ad you know yeah it's all it's all like it's clean like directly with us from people who know us and ask us like the companies come to us and they're like hey we want to be on your show
Starting point is 01:37:22 so i don't i don't i don't i begging them. Look, it's just grifting. It's just people who are lying. So would we have to pay you to encourage people to donate to Judicial Watch? You have to pay me to do it? Would we have to? Oh, I mean, or you can just come on the show and shout out Judicial Watch. But for the most part, my friends... But that's the way you would do it.
Starting point is 01:37:39 You know someone and they know you and you... You know, for like, for Judicial Watch stuff... So Sleeping Giants isn't going to be able to stop anyone from advertising. Well, that's basically what it is. It's a lady someone and they know you and you you know for like for judicial watch stuff so sleeping giants isn't going to be able to stop anyone from advertising well that's basically what it is yeah it's it's a it's a lady who got really mad because she tried claiming she started it when she didn't and then like so she's trying to be like it was me but it wasn't some other guy or something like that so now she's trying to get attention by you know posting overtly fake garbage uh as everybody who watches the show knows,
Starting point is 01:38:06 she's made the claim that I've pushed the big lie that Donald Trump won the election, which I've never once stated, not one time. And for this, the Trump supporters are very mad at me. They don't like me for it. But we're funded by members at timcast.com. So what makes this show work? timcast.com.
Starting point is 01:38:22 Memberships. What makes our journalists able to do their jobs? Your membership? Timcast.com. Memberships. What makes our journalists able to do their jobs? Your membership at Timcast.com. So when these people just make up these lies, like we're going to go after their advertisers and their advertisements are like 0.1, I think it's like 0.01% of the revenue. It's so ridiculously small. It's completely negligible. And I'm just like, I actually was talking to the company.
Starting point is 01:38:42 I was like, do we even need this? Like, do we need to do this? It was like, do we even need this? Like do we need to do this? It's like, well – Is it worth it? You should because the idea is that once the website gets bigger and has much more traffic, it could become substantial. So for the most part, they're just grifters who are trying to use the fact that our show is growing and hatred from trolls or whatever to make money. And they've made tens of thousands of dollars off lying. They overtly lie.
Starting point is 01:39:06 They make things up. They completely fabricate things. And I will state for the record right now as a statement of fact that these individuals fabricate information to trick people into giving them money, and I believe it is an act of fraud. Yeah, I can assert that with – I mean, look, I'll be honest. The lies are so obvious that, like, it's not even a question for me to say. That's my view generally about big tech.
Starting point is 01:39:29 It's all fraud. The censorship is evidence of fraud. Oh, wow. And it should be prosecuted. But why do you say fraud? Because they're saying they're censoring you for reason A when, in fact, it's reason B. So they're lying to users, shareholders, regulators, and Congress. Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 01:39:50 Securities Exchange Commission, Federal Trade Commission, Congress, DOJ, and I trust whatever should be investigating the fraud. Yeah. All right. Michael Holder says, regarding the race-swapping characters thing, it's not actually about the race-swapping. It's that everyone in Hollywood has become race-obsessed ideologues and turn everything they write into woke veggie tales. Ask Eric July about it next time he's on. He'll talk your ears off about it oh no no i i i i
Starting point is 01:40:09 i get it for sure you know we were talking last night about uh titans it's the dc show yeah one of the characters starfire is in the comics she's like an orange alien and they cast a black woman to play starfire there was like this big uproar, I guess. A lot of people were angry. Like, why are they, you know, Starfire is not black or whatever. And my attitude was like, it's an alien. Anyone could play this character.
Starting point is 01:40:32 I don't understand why anyone would be mad about that. But their response is, it's not really about that. It's about the race obsession and the wokeness and the CRT and stuff like that, I get. Yeah. I call it racialism. It's this obsession and it'sism. It's this obsession, and it's disturbing. It's really disturbing.
Starting point is 01:40:49 I agree, man. I agree. All right. Joker says, Shimcast forever. Beautiful. Thank you so much. And honestly, it has been forever since I've been on. It's so great to be back.
Starting point is 01:40:59 We got to get – we have this Timcast thing that's behind our guests all the time. You can see it. Someone made it for us. We need to get one that says Shimcast our guests all the time. You can see it. Someone made it for us. We need to get one that says Shimcast. We do. Anyone, you guys, someone wants to send us a Shimcast sign. It looks like that Timcast sign. We're putting it behind Seamus.
Starting point is 01:41:15 They were looking for something to put up behind me, so Tim just pins a lint roller to the wall. It's right there. This is what I'm working with. He was actually rolling the lint off him before he did it, too. It indicates that Seamus is dirty. I am dirty. Well, I don't think there needs to be an indicator.
Starting point is 01:41:31 Is that the anti-Irish subtext, too? Exactly. Oh, it has nothing to do with him being Irish. Clean yourself up. YouTube will ban you. I don't like this racialism. Netflix is going to reboot me. All right.
Starting point is 01:41:43 RVDL says, Neil hoped to burn out, but he chose to fade away what a sad old man i just listened to uh sweet judy blue eyes said neil young sad neil what is this uh saluk erotic says i hope neil young will remember a southern man don't need him around anyhow sweet home alabama yep they don't need him around anyhow. Sweet home Alabama. Yep, they don't need him around. Neither do we. You could be an internet person. You could be a freedom-loving person. You could be a music or podcast listener.
Starting point is 01:42:11 None of us need you, Neil Young. Sorry. Spotify don't need him around. That's it. Yeah, they don't. DJ Buddy's Rock Garden says, Dude, I'm 61 and a loyal listener. F. Neil Young.
Starting point is 01:42:22 Disaffected liberal. Isn't it sad? He's an okay boomer. He's an okay boomer. Love him. The thing about Neil Young is that he's this guy who's supposed to be protesting, rocking in the free world, and he's just an establishment shill. He was just marketing the whole time. When you get famous for something, there's a tendency to think that you're supposed to keep doing that thing you got famous for to continue to be famous.
Starting point is 01:42:46 So he got really well known for being, you know, for protesting. And it's like, at some point, you can change course. You don't need to keep being the guy
Starting point is 01:42:54 that poured ketchup on your head every video to try and one-up what made you get there. You know, now you're there. You can, I was in the shower, man.
Starting point is 01:43:01 I almost came out hot on Neil Young, just ripping him to shreds personally but I don't really know exactly what his thought process is here so I'm not going to go too hard on him let me earmuffs for your kids Lee says I'm one of the few CNN viewers
Starting point is 01:43:18 I was channel surfing and my BF came over we started participating in adult activities and he threw the remote stopping it on CNN I'm sorry my worst mistake and biggest regret Could you imagine with Don Lemon in the background? How would that even work for any human being? That wouldn't work. Mind over matter. Mind over matter.
Starting point is 01:43:37 Desperately trying to focus on something else. Jim Acosta comes on. Yeah, I'm sorry, man. Nope. All right. Waffle Sensei says, Seamus, would you consider filling in for Luke till he gets back? You're hilarious and we love you, dude.
Starting point is 01:43:52 Oh, I love you. Thank you so much for saying that. So, yeah, Tim and I have definitely been talking about it. I might be hanging out for a little while and just – Yeah, Seamus came to me and asked. I was begging. I said, Tim, please. I started laughing.
Starting point is 01:44:01 Tim, you begged me. You said, Seamus, we need you. We need you over here. Shimcast is going to fall apart without the original Shim Sham himself. And I said, I'll get here. I'll come there as fast as I can because I'm a good friend. And I got in my car. Seamus comes to me.
Starting point is 01:44:14 And I drove hours and hours and hours. He was like, I couldn't help but notice Luke is gone. And I was like, and? And he was like, you think there's any chance? I don't know. Like, maybe I could. And I was like, Seamus, you think i would put you in luke's chair i called luke luke immediately started screaming with laughter that that is not even
Starting point is 01:44:31 remotely what happens that is not even what happened anyone who watches the vlogs luke is here for a few months he laughed so now that's that's where he would sit anyone who watches the vlog will know the following is true all right luke was on his way out old model past his expiration date gotta bring in gotta bring in the new model exactly we'll be back we're putting age limits i think he's gonna take offense to that and luke comes to me despite the fact that i've been nothing but respectful and admiring towards the Polish people, and he starts trashing my ethnic background. I said, look, Tim, I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 01:45:12 I think this guy's a PR disaster. I think he's going to get you in trouble. Tim said, you're right, Seamus. I've been thinking about it. I want to ask you on. He kicked Luke out that day. Pack your bags. In all seriousness, if you want to—
Starting point is 01:45:24 Well, he just exposed our whole PR campaign. You want to support Luke Rutkowski, go to thebestpoliticalshirts.com and get your favorite shirt. And then Tim changed his mascot to non-binary so that we wouldn't have any controversy. What actually happened is that Luke left and I said, we can see if we can have some people come in and out. We have different cast – people who work at the castle or work for TimCast.com. And then Seamus was like, I'm going to be heading back. And I said, when are you coming back? And he said, I think I might be back in a day or so.
Starting point is 01:45:54 And I was like, can you try and get back before the show because we could really use you on the show? And Seamus was like, yeah, for sure. And that's what really happened. First of all, that is not what happened. I did not say I was going to be back in a day or so. And Tim said, if you're not back in a day or so, this is going to fall apart. But I actually said it like, if you're not back in a day or so. And my arms are going like this.
Starting point is 01:46:12 If you're not back by the end of the day. Speaking of which, check out the newest Freedom Tunes, everybody. Pretty good. Tucker Carlson and Bernie Sanders. But yeah, that's what happened. But yes, so I will be filling in for a little while. Yes, Seamus will be filling in. I mean, you know, before Luke showed up, we didn't actually have a fourth person.
Starting point is 01:46:32 And then when we built this new studio, we had a fourth person in mind because it used to just be three. That's Tim putting me on notice. He's like, I'm just letting you know we didn't always have four people. Now you can have a fifth. Yeah, we do. Yeah, sometimes. But too many people, it becomes a cacophony. Right. You know, it happens. Yeah, we do. Yeah, sometimes. But too many people, it becomes a cacophony. Right.
Starting point is 01:46:45 You know what happens. Yeah. All right. We got this one from Wonder Without the Fear. It says, Truckers Convoy 2022. This needs to be addressed. This peaceful and truckers helps everyone. Many USA truckers are coming up to CA.
Starting point is 01:47:00 So much love. Keep it peaceful. Yeah, did you guys hear this massive trucker convoy, man? Yeah. And the GoFundMe. Something about this GoFundMe. They had a five million and they froze this five million bucks going to the truckers. Of course. What's up with that? Well, GoFundMe is like until you can give us a plan as to what you're going to do with the money. Frozen. Right. You know, I had Judicial Watch do a petition to get a special counsel for Joe Biden. And I was a little nervous about using change.org, but I did it and there are 350,000 people signed up.
Starting point is 01:47:30 And people are saying, well, that's a leftist organization. It's like, well, good. What better place than to advocate holding Joe Biden accountable than on change.org? So what are these truckers doing exactly? They're protesting the Vax mandates. And what are they doing? Are they on the road just hauled up? They're driving. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just a big conference.org. So what are these truckers doing exactly? They're protesting the VAX mandates. And what are they doing? Are they on the road just all driving?
Starting point is 01:47:47 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just a big conflict. Good. Imagine, imagine, imagine screwing with truckers right now. How stupid, how unbelievably stupid you have to be. It's because everyone has to obey. It doesn't matter if it's going to make life way more difficult for everybody. They're out of line, and they have to be punished.
Starting point is 01:48:07 To be fair, though, imagine screwing with truckers at any point. No, that's also true, but especially now. You're absolutely right. We really depend on them. But now, of all times, like when there's already supply chain issues, when we're already having food shortages, I know who we're going to screw with, the people who bring us our food. Brilliant.
Starting point is 01:48:23 Great job. Thank you, Brandon. All right. We got Rakusa says, Tim, waiting for you to pull your Brett Mason signature telly off the wall and break out. And we're not going to take it. I can dream, can't I? Well, we were we were planning on doing a show when we were going to have we were going
Starting point is 01:48:40 to have Michael Graves, but he couldn't he didn't he he couldn't make it. We used to do Friday night jam sessions, but we're set up for it for the most part. So maybe, especially when we have guests on that are musicians, which probably will be great. That would be great. Yeah, we used to do Friday night. We would just jam out for like a half an hour after the show, play songs, play music. People clipped a whole bunch of my songs and put them up, which they were like – after talking for like seven hours in one day, then trying to sing was just brutal.
Starting point is 01:49:06 I believe it. Yeah. I'd be like, they're good though. Those video clips are great. A lot of those songs. That's how I learned a lot of your music is through those clips. There you go.
Starting point is 01:49:14 I'm surprised. They got a lot of views on some of them. All right. Nick Rose says, Seamus is boondock saints minus the guns. We love him. This is really, Tim,
Starting point is 01:49:21 we love your work in the crew. Tom, thank God for judicial watch. IRL kicks ass. P.Ss democracy in peril equals democrat mandates who says i don't own firearms but thank you very much i'm glad that you love me all right let's grab some brown bear says who the hell is neil young all of the young people who watch the show just went who more like neil old bro no one knows who you are. That's a thing to consider, too,
Starting point is 01:49:47 when we're like, yo, Neil Young is issuing an ultimatum. Anyone under, like, 30 went, who? I'm under 30. Yeah. I didn't know who he was. You've never heard Neil Young before.
Starting point is 01:49:57 That's true. I've never, I don't even know who he is. Not once. I've heard Neil Young. Old Man is such a good song. Yeah, he's got the rock, he's got Ohio. He's got rockin' in the free world, I too crosby stills nash and young i mean but when
Starting point is 01:50:08 neil left the band it was just crosby stills and nash and they were never even held a candle to what the four of those guys did yeah well yeah neil young i see this move and i'm just like it makes me feel that everything he's ever said has been a lie just to pander to people to sell albums one i don't i still think he legit, but I think he's just gone. He's like in a computer program on repeat. Luke still believes in Neil Young. And he's afraid of COVID. You heard it here.
Starting point is 01:50:32 Yeah, I believe it for sure. Prepped Matt says, Hey, Tim, did you hear about Tiffany Cross on MSNBC? She actually told people to get weapons and fight in a war. She's trying to get people to physically harm people for their opinions and choices. I think she was being metaphorical. She was like, we are in a war and She's trying to get people to physically harm people for their opinions and choices. I think she was being metaphorical. You know, she was like, we are in a war and people need to, you know, she said, she made that statement. I'm going to be very careful here, but I'll tell you this. It doesn't matter if it was metaphorical or not. She actually said an MSNBC that people
Starting point is 01:50:57 should take up weapons. Joe, I'm sorry, Alex Jones got banned for that. That's one of the reasons he got banned because he had made metaphorical statements about fighting back and defending yourself and stuff like that. So there's two rules here. Jen Psaki was like, go to the weekend, drink a margarita, come back on Monday, and let's fight. And I know it's a metaphor. She said take a kickboxing class. Then she said have a margarita. Then she said come back on Monday and fight.
Starting point is 01:51:25 Like you're going to tell people to come fight? Is that not inciting? Yes, that caused the President of the United States to be impeached. It's this metaphor, fight, fight, fight. You hear Elizabeth Warren, we're going to fight for our rights and fight and fight, fight, fight. And you're like, dude, this is an annoying metaphor. It's bland. You obviously don't mean to take up physical arms.
Starting point is 01:51:43 Why are you saying fight? But it's a metaphor that can get you banned on youtube if you say it depending on your political views if tim said we're not going to take it anymore they'd probably construe that as a threat yeah if i if i got up and went i'm mad as hell and i'm not gonna take it anymore they'd be like whoa whoa shut it down what are you implying yeah what do you want i don't like the fight metaphor i especially these politicians using it to rile people up. I don't like it. If I came out and said, I want to rock and roll all night and party every day, they'd just be like, oh, shut it down. When he had a blade behind him and a firearm on the wall, we know what a party means.
Starting point is 01:52:15 Someone suggested you get a cutlass so it's true form. Yeah, it's a mall sword. It means I went to the mall and I went went to some like the cheap guy who was like you want to buy an asian sword and i was like they said that the sword cheapens the gun that or that replica so that you could get a cutlass and make the full pirate theme i thought that's kind of neat yeah i literally was looking on the room like what can i put behind me and i'm like i have a mall sword and i have this this this flint lock you know and that's all that happened beautiful and then we actually had a different...
Starting point is 01:52:45 Guy decor. Yeah, we had a different guitar behind me, but it was too bright. So we put up the Brett Mason. That dude is legit an incredible guitarist. Wow. This guitar is rad, too. That dude's awesome. All right, let's see what we got here.
Starting point is 01:52:57 We got The World Says. Why don't we just allow debtors to file for bankruptcy? Student loans are the only loans where you can't file for bankruptcy. I don't know if that's true. Yeah, well, also, you can't repossess a degree, which is part of it. I'm not saying that there isn't a massive issue with student loans and the interest payments right now, but it's a very differently structured law. You used to be able to default to George Bush Jr.
Starting point is 01:53:22 He passed some legislation and he couldn't default on those. There is a massive issue. We have adults making poor financial decisions and expecting taxpayers to come in and bail them out. And they're seeking a massive transfer of wealth from people who don't go to college to people who do. It's elitism in the worst way. It is. And they're the highest income earners in the country. Yeah, I think there's truth in that because –
Starting point is 01:53:42 But I do think the system is corrupt. Exactly. It needs to be stopped. We stop these loans. It's a federal government program. It's supported by the government. Exactly. It wouldn't happen without government support. Well, no. I mean, according to the National Bureau for Economic Research, the entire reason you have this student loan crisis and the entire reason college is so expensive is because of the wide availability of easy money. So I agree with you there, and it would be an incredibly regressive tax to, quote-unquote, forgive student loans, but at the same time, the idea of somebody paying off significantly more
Starting point is 01:54:14 than they ever took out, having paid off their debt and still having thousands and thousands of dollars left, I think is insane. Standard interest. You could do away with that standard interest. All right, Nick Zilla says, I don't see how this is a backfire for Neil Young. Read his actual statement. He got what he asked for. He's crazy about audio quality and has hated Spotify since forever.
Starting point is 01:54:33 Being off Spotify is probably worth it to him regardless of any Rogan feelings. That's what I'm talking about. No, he wanted to take his music off because of quality. But then later, I guess he said something like this is the place where people are getting their music and he wants people to hear his music so he's going to stay on the platform. I genuinely believe, in my opinion, I think it's a fair point,
Starting point is 01:54:51 absolutely, because Neil said, take me off, I'll let you take off Rogan. So they did. So he got what he asked for. But I genuinely believe he thought it was going to be
Starting point is 01:54:58 this moment where these other artists would be like, we're with Neil Young. Yay. And then Spotify would be like, I guess we got to get rid of Joe Rogan. And then Joe would be like i guess we got to get rid of joe
Starting point is 01:55:05 rogan and then joe would be like oh and then they would all high five each other instead spotify was like uh uh bye neil have a nice day joe increased the value of their company by like 10 times by joining that platform the stock skyrocketed it's crazy i don't know exactly the day after they announced it was like boom so yeah they. So, yeah, they're not. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Crenshaw said he couldn't live off of $175,000 a year. Wow. Really?
Starting point is 01:55:36 I may need to see context on that. Man, it feels like Dan Crenshaw has been just getting a lot of heat as of late, kind of just not doing well. It's insane. We are going to have Dan Crenshaw on the show at some point. We are. And I think that'll be fascinating. I think I've done a good job. Luke will be back for that.
Starting point is 01:55:54 I would be in favor of kicking up the salaries for members of Congress as part of my reform agenda. You know, you get people in here for 10 years. And what happens is you have, government is designed to let people who work in government prosper. But normal people, they're not welcome in government. And the salaries reflect that. So someone who wants,
Starting point is 01:56:14 who's a businessman or just starting out, a young person in their career, the idea they come to Congress, they couldn't afford to do it. Why don't we make it affordable to someone to come here for a few years yeah and leave ben franklin suggested that we pay them nothing and that everyone has to do it like they i think only rich people would do it
Starting point is 01:56:32 then well you don't really now in the modern age you don't have to move to dc to be serving in congress necessarily you could read the bills and vote online yeah i think that's unfortunately a negative yeah i think people need to be there to vote. Look at what Marjorie Taylor Greene said. They don't even show up. So nah, you should have to show up. I don't know. We got a very important one. They don't want people coming to the Capitol anymore.
Starting point is 01:56:55 They don't. Pelosi basically said, don't come. This is a horrible gamer says, Tim, you lie. What? The trespassing, the swatting was all an elaborate plan to scare Luke to GTFO to Florida so you can bring in shame-mus. Luke's seat is still warm, Tim. I'm not even going to respond to that. Do you know that person?
Starting point is 01:57:16 It sounds uniquely personal. Was that you? There are a lot of people who are obsessed with me on the internet who create rumors and lies to make me look bad. None of that is true. Never expect the Seamus Inquisition. Seamus, I got to – I'm not on trial. I got to be honest.
Starting point is 01:57:31 I'm not on trial. Seamus, I got to tell them the truth. I'm not on trial. Just plead the fifth. It's time we told them the truth. Tim. Tim. Seamus and I colluded this whole thing.
Starting point is 01:57:38 Stop it, Tim. What are you doing? It's not – To scare Luke away. Don't listen to him. He's crazy. Seamus offered me money. Tim's crazy.
Starting point is 01:57:44 What money can I offer you? What are you talking about, Tim? Seamus is the one who actually got me the Anthony Fauci bobblehead. We laundered it through Ian so that Luke wouldn't know. Seamus actually asked me to come out here in the first place after years ago. What? How did this turn into so many things I never did? Cut your hair?
Starting point is 01:58:03 What am I, Delilah? You have a nice haircut, by the way. Thank you. I appreciate that. We should all share a life with that. We're turning it back around. It started with accusations. And now I am getting compliments for my haircut.
Starting point is 01:58:13 Thank you. I appreciate that. You know, when I was waiting for someone to notice, shame on the Super Chats. I thought I looked very nice. I was excited for compliments from my adoring fans. Scale of 1 to 10. How beautiful is Seamus' hair? Just let me know.
Starting point is 01:58:26 They're all putting a 1. Oh. I'm just kidding. They didn't have time to respond, Tim. All right, all right, all right. Joel Seberg says, I'm a CDL driver and have many skills. Let me know if you need help, please. I'm also adept in construction and farming.
Starting point is 01:58:41 I see a 10. Well, actually, with the new trailer that we're building for the mobile shows, we're planning on going down to Florida to meet back up with Luke for one of our mobile shows. We did this in Austin. It was amazing.
Starting point is 01:58:52 And it was one of the funniest shows we've ever done. It was like Alex Jones, Joe Rogan, Blair White, Drew Hernandez, Ian, me, Luke. And who am I forgetting? Is that... Michael Malice.
Starting point is 01:59:02 You did forget me. I forgot the guy sitting next to me. No, we were like, Seamus, don't tell him. No one tell him. And then we all had a party. I know. People like, hey, look at Tim Kass tonight. He shows up at the place.
Starting point is 01:59:12 Where is everybody? But Joe. I was here alone. People are saying negative one. No, Joe. Joe. I didn't think he's gonna be able to come on the show because he had his own show. But he was like, I can stop by.
Starting point is 01:59:23 And then it was just funny when he was like, I show up to a trailer on the side of the road i'm like yep exit two from literally exit two yeah from yeah exactly from joe's nice podcast studio there's like stars on the ceiling and like shooting stars it's crazy it's amazing to a trailer on the side of the road where it's like everyone's yelling at each other and And he's like, what the – we're thinking – we're hoping we can do that with the Daily Wire crew. For sure. Are you going to not invite me to that either, Tim? Definitely. Are you going to hang out with the Daily Wire crew?
Starting point is 01:59:52 We're going to tell Seamus. You're going to tell me it's somewhere else. We're going to get there, and Seamus is going to wake up. It's going to be like – he's going to walk around like rubbing his eyes, and he's going to be like, no one's home. Is this home alone, bro? Yes. Is this every single – because that's what happened last time. Except I was at my apartment. I wasn't even – he's going to be like, no one's home. Is this home alone, bro? Yes. Is this every single Pat Day? Because that's what happened last time. Jesus.
Starting point is 02:00:05 Except I was at my apartment. I wasn't even – I was nowhere near Tim. We're in Nashville. I was nowhere near Tim, but I was still offended I wasn't invited. I think it's only like nine hours from here or something. But we talked to them about it, and we might be able to set up our studio in one of their lots because we have the big mobile fifth wheel. We have a new one where redesigning is going to be amazing.
Starting point is 02:00:23 And then it would actually be really cool to do – we wanted to do like one of each of their hosts you know every night and maybe do one big night with a bunch of the daily wire people all at once it would be really fun love i wouldn't invite knolls to something like that no you not him no he's a mess i want to do a theology debate at some point with seamus and michael knolls and we've had some other brilliant catholics and christians and other. I don't know about Knowles, but I appreciate the compliment. No, I mean, honestly, Knowles is, I hate to compliment him. He's a smart guy.
Starting point is 02:00:52 I like that guy. Yeah, I'd love to. Hey, shout out to Matt Walsh on Dr. Phil, too. That was great. Dude, shout out to the Daily Wire for standing up to the mandates, man. It's just these Catholic political commentators, they're crushing it. Oh, yeah. Ben Shapiro, you took a mega risk. Jeremy Boring.
Starting point is 02:01:06 Balls to the wall. Jeremy? Yeah. Nice job, guys. They won. They did. All right, well, we got one more right here. It's an important one.
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