Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #459 - The HONKENING WINS, Quebec CANCELS Vax Tax w/Lily Tang Williams & Jack Posobiec

Episode Date: February 2, 2022

Tim, Seamus from FreedomToons, and Lydia host congressional candidate Lily Tang Williams and podcaster and commentator Jack Posobiec to break down the ways that the so-called Freedom Convoy is winning... in Canada as laws are retracted, the police threatening to arrest truckers - and then backing down - at the Freedom Convoy, the Canadian conservatives giving Justin Trudeau the smackdown on the Parliament floor, how the Democrats will come for DeSantis in preparation for 2024, the Canadian tow companies refusing to to Freedom Convoy trucks, and the most recent media smears of Jack Posobiec. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ladies and gentlemen, the Great Honkening is winning. We're learning now that Quebec is pulling its tax on the unvaxxed out of a fear of social cohesion breaking down. We've got other reports that Mounties, I think Mounties, right? RCMP, those are the Mounties, right? They were threatening to arrest the truckers and they backed down. So this may be a victory in some respects, but the war is still raging and the great honking
Starting point is 00:00:25 continues. And here in the US, there is more and more talk about American truckers getting on board with their own kind of great freedom convoy or great honking. So we have much to talk about. We'll talk about all that. Plus more. We've got a story about Jack Posobiec being smeared by the media and Jack's actually here. But first, let's throw it to Lily Tang Williams who's joining us. Do you want to introduce yourself? Yes, Lily Tang Williams. You want to put your mic up? Sorry. Oh, okay. Is that better?
Starting point is 00:00:52 No, pull it closer to you. Pull it close to me? Okay. There you go. Yes, Chinese immigrant, Americans by choice, running for U.S. Congress in the great state of New Hampshire. Free state project. Yes, and thanks for having me. Free state project. Yes. And thanks for having me.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Happy New Year, everybody. Today is the first day of Chinese Tiger Year. So where is this jacket for you guys? You've actually experienced the awfulness of communism. Yeah. Yes. I lived in China for almost 24 years. To me, it's like I was not free.
Starting point is 00:01:28 I was a new slave. So I feel very young in this country because I started my new life, free person life as 24 years old. So I think it'll be great to talk to you about what we're seeing with the vaccine mandates and all those policies, what your experience was under the Chinese Communist Party, I think there's probably some similarities, I'd imagine. Of course, quite a lot. That's why I'm on Ronny. I'm terrified.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Right on. All right, we'll talk about it. We got Jack Pasovic here as well. They're making fun of you, Tim. So Tim, whenever we speak Chinese, it's not good for you. So my half of Chinese kids, whenever their friends come over, if I start to speak to them in Chinese,
Starting point is 00:02:14 they know their friends are all mommies. My mom would just yell at me in English. What they call the tiger mom. Yeah, exactly. Is that it? You said it's the year of the tiger, right? Oh, it's the year of the tiger. So we got tiger mom in the year of the tiger now. Yeah, exactly. Is that it? But yeah, but no. Well, you said it's the year of the tiger, right? Oh, it's the year of the tiger. So we got tiger mom in the year of the tiger now.
Starting point is 00:02:28 All right then. So I think everybody knows who Jack is, but you know, just, you know. Yeah, Jack Posobiec, he was the host of Human Events Daily, also the senior editor over there, host on the Turning Point Live Network, as well as a million different things
Starting point is 00:02:40 now published in Newsweek, which of course has made NBC's resident, Mehdi Hassan, very upset because I was going after NBC and their relationship with the CCP and many others and their relationships with the CCP. So, of course, he comes out to try to smear me, try to cancel me, and is incredibly impotent. It's amazing. Newsweek does a pretty good job. I'm impressed. They have an eclectic set of opinions in their opinion section. So they're running dissenting views now, And so they'll actually set it up.
Starting point is 00:03:07 They weren't able to do it because of, you know, sometimes they didn't get the timing right. They'll actually pick someone on the left and someone on the right. And so if you go to their opinion page, it'll say, you know, sort of like this person on the left versus this person on the right. And maybe the topic is vaccine mandates or the topic is the new voting rights project or Biden's voting right, whatever it is. Right. And they'll run opposing views, which is something that newspapers and magazines used to do in the past all the time. And yet somehow, you know, later on into the 2000s, we split into, oh, no, this side is only going to give one opinion. This one's only going to give another. So everything that Josh Hammer and the whole team is doing over there is amazing. Because, yeah, and you've got Mediasan and people like this saying,
Starting point is 00:03:52 no, you can't run these people because they have bad opinions and very naughty thoughts. Yo, we're winning. Free speech, free inquiry, freedom of association. It's all winning. And this is exactly what Joe Rogan said, too, by the way, recently. So welcome. And unfortunately, my friends, Ian is not here. Instead, we have Seamus. Stole his spot. it's all winning so jack exactly what joe rogan said too by the way recently so welcome and uh unfortunately my friends ian is not here instead we have seamus stole his spot so these are the
Starting point is 00:04:09 credentials i have to follow up i make cartoons thank you lily i appreciate that someone here has my back we have one fan um so i have youtube channel called freedom tunes where we create create educational cartoons mostly political satire at this point started more educational but some educational stuff too if you guys want to check that out
Starting point is 00:04:29 we release a new video every Thursday and I'm really excited for tonight's show I think we're going to have a great discussion I taught myself investing just by watching Freedom Tunes
Starting point is 00:04:35 yeah exactly that's true that's not true but you can you could you actually could invest in Freedom Tunes totally set him up for that
Starting point is 00:04:44 you know what the communist country do to cartoonists and comedians who are not PC? No, that's why I'm here. Yeah, exactly. You will be disappeared. Yeah, you're gone. You're gone. And we also got Lydia pressing the buttons. I am here in the corner.
Starting point is 00:04:57 I get the impression I'm not going to be talking a lot tonight, but I'm very excited for tonight's conversation. Can't wait to learn more about Canada and China. All right, everybody. Before we get started, head over to TimCast.com. Become a member to help support our work, support our fierce and independent journalists.
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Starting point is 00:05:32 And again, TimCast.com. Subscribe to the channel, yada, yada. Let's talk about this story right here. We got this from TimCast.com. Quebec polls proposed tax on unvaccinated Canadians. Premier Francois Legault cited a desire to maintain social cohesion in his announcement on February 1st. I have to wonder what that might mean. I mean, that's incredible.
Starting point is 00:05:56 It means become ungovernable. Exactly. Well, this is sort of what we were talking about the other day when I was saying a huge reason this trucker convoy is a threat to them is because people realize they can stand up for themselves and don't have to obey every order. They're not going to be as effective when they try to do those things like that. Do you mean like people have power or something? Yeah, exactly. What does that mean? People have all the power? Whoa, whoa. You mean like workers of the world are united? No, no, not like that. Right, right, right. I think it's funny that I've pointed out, you know, we've talked about, there's like a meme about whenever workers actually do start protesting, but it's funny that I've pointed out – we've talked about – there's like a meme about whenever workers actually do start protesting but it's for like the wrong direction, the left gets mad about it.
Starting point is 00:06:31 And it's never been exemplified better than it is now with truckers, workers of the world, uniting in opposition to government authoritarianism, and now they're all getting angry about it. But the point of the story is to maintain social cohesion. Yeah, it's working. It's having an impact. When people stand together and push back and honk their horns, the powers that be recoil in fear. I mean I just love seeing these comments where – so it's like somebody screaming, I just can't take it anymore. These racist white supremacists, they're in there in the downtown and whatever.
Starting point is 00:07:08 And the response is just honk, honk. You know, this reminds me in China when they took this app off young people's phone to have like basically funny stuff and talk about their private, you know, sex and dating. And the government even banned that app. And how did they protest it? To find our own people, they go out and Didi, Didi, they push their car.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Didi, Didi is like, hey friend, hey comrade, Didi, Didi. Because Didi was the name of the app, right? No, it was like the car noise. Didi also is the app. Right. The name of the app was Didi.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Yeah, right. Oh, wow. The Didi was. So they were honking the horns to make it sound like Didi. It sounds like Didi was the app that was banned. Also protest against the government who took away people's entertainment. So that tells you the state of today's young people in China. They have no meanings in life.
Starting point is 00:08:12 I don't know if it was you posted it, Jack. Someone posted George Soros getting angry about what China was doing and speaking out against him. Was it you who tweeted about that? Brie Dale had tweeted it and then I commented on that. Someone said that Soros is finally realizing that. Yeah, that was me. Yeah, the West is going to be subservient to China after this great reset or whatever. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:31 And you're seeing this. Jake Taper at CNN is now attacking China during the Olympics, and George Soros is out and come out and put up this video. And so people are saying, hey, wait, what's going on? Like why, you know, why, why Soros, the guy who's Mr. Open Society, Mr. Color Revolution, you know, who's spread so much misinformation, actual discord, the guy who funded all these crazy DAs across the United States that lets violent criminals out on the streets. And that's why homicides are a complete record highs across the country. But suddenly he's against the CCP. What's this? And I said, like, no, guys, this is Game of Thrones stuff, right? This is stuff that's going on at the higher level. It's who gets to be senior partner, who gets to be junior partner.
Starting point is 00:09:10 And the idea was the West thought they were going to be the senior partners, but suddenly they realized that if all the manufacturing is in another country, then guess what? That country's the one with the power. You know, I almost can't believe that's the reason because how stupid do you have to be for these industrialists, these wealthy individuals, these global leaders to outright be like, no, no, no, it's fine if we move our manufacturing to China. It's a good thing. And now they hold all the cards and they're like, OK, maybe that was a bad thing. Do you remember when Republicans when Trump used to talk about this and this was one of the singular issues?
Starting point is 00:09:46 I think two of his biggest issues, immigration and China. Right. We're like two of the absolute biggest ones. And both of them revolve around the concept of sovereignty. But on those focused issues, he really changed the conversation on. And I remember when he started coming out and saying we need to have steel tariffs because the steel industry is a matter of national security in the United States. There were so many of these like libertarian type conservatarian Republicans say, what do you mean? What does that have to do with national security? That's just that's just the steel industry.
Starting point is 00:10:15 And we should have, you know, the free flow of capital and goods and people across borders. And the free, you know, free trade is really what matters. And he turns around and said, yeah, well, what if we get into a war with China and we can't make steel to build equipment for our military? What if there's a global pandemic and we can't make vitamin C? Oops. Or antibiotics. Right, right. That's why it's more than national security.
Starting point is 00:10:37 It's a matter of life and death if you rely on them. So now you say they had the PPE mask, diplomacy, right? And they use that. And now, you know, next, don't know what they use. Now they're bullying everybody. So, Lily, you actually lived under the, you know, communism in China. Now I'm curious, since
Starting point is 00:10:57 we've last had you on, there's been a lot of developments with the vaccine mandates and all that stuff. I'm curious what your thoughts are on all of it and the similarities. Well, I'm so encouraged by this truckers freedom convoy. That's like I have never seen Canadians are so excited about their country. We saw the Canadian socialist country. I have been telling people their vaccine passport have a QR code on your cell phone. It will be just like China's
Starting point is 00:11:26 social credit system. They'll track you long stop, 24 hours a day. You have no privacy. I have seen this one guy show me in Las Vegas, his QR code on his cell phone from Saudi Arabia. He said, Lily, I have to
Starting point is 00:11:41 have three shots in order to travel to Las Vegas for business. I said, well, how do you show them the papers? I show you. He showed me his QR code on his cell phone. I said, that looks like China's cell phone, social credit system. You're up in track 24 hours a day. He said, what choice do I have?
Starting point is 00:12:00 So I'm telling people in this country, Western world, if you let them to do that, it's end of you, basically human freedom. It's black mirror. How have we made a TV show about this and now it's not even been a couple of years and we're already enacting it? Yes, exactly. I have friends of friends, stories I've heard about people who are currently traveling around in China and it's like, oh yeah, you have to scan everything to get in everywhere. You've got to be completely up to date and then to get into any building, it's scanned and all tracked everywhere you go. Well, for
Starting point is 00:12:29 Beijing Olympics, which are coming down, they're locking down. So they have to be very careful about this because they don't want to lock down Beijing itself. And so the Olympics start, what, in two or three days, I think. Three days. And they're locking down various districts of Beijing but they're not actually locking down the main centers yet.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Now they have this thing called the bubble, or if you're in, they call it being in the loop when you come in, but they're even with, because they're pursuing the zero COVID strategy, even with that, they've had breakthrough cases inside that bubble. So what are they doing?
Starting point is 00:13:00 If you're anywhere near there, if a single case comes out, they will lock you down inside a shopping mall. They're locking down entire office buildings. For how long? Until everyone tests negative. Zero COVID. Zero COVID.
Starting point is 00:13:14 So you're trapped in a mall for like two weeks. Whatever it is. Wow. You're just locked in there. I'm not surprised they were welding people's doors shut. Precisely. Yeah. I don't know why IOC would not delay it or change location.
Starting point is 00:13:28 And they also changed the human rights rules that they want to apply to Paris, to other places, but not to Beijing. There's lots of questions to be raised. What is IOC doing in Beijing now with all that strict zero COVID lockdowns? Well, are the athletes going to protest it and bail out? Right. Or are they just going to go along with it? I haven't seen any athletes protesting it. And I remember, too, like go back and look at the Rio Olympics,
Starting point is 00:13:53 which were just a couple of years ago when Zika virus was going on. And I remember a lot of athletes saying, hey, I'm not going to go to Rio because I don't want Zika, right? Well, we're seeing the exact same thing with the Omicron Olympics. But to answer your question, what's up with the IOC? I mean, it's pretty simple. And this is what I actually wrote about in Newsweek and NBC's sending out this hitman to come after me, is that I've heard people describe the relationship as something like elite capture, like the CCP has captured American elites, but it's not like that. It's actually elite merger.
Starting point is 00:14:25 That's what we're seeing across the world. And so, yes, there's this argument over who gets to be senior partner and who gets to be junior partner. But at the end of the day, this has been a merger that's been in place for almost 30 yearser, the former senator from California, is now a registered agent of a CCP surveillance company, which actually makes the cameras for Xinjiang. I mean, you could go look at this stuff up. But can you say it like Alex Jones now? Oh, right, right. Oh, he's here.
Starting point is 00:14:59 For 30 years. For 30 years. They've been sending us up. They've been selling us out. They've been sending out your children. They're going to be hooked up to the CCP machines. It's funny because when you talk about – you have – what is it? Picture of Klaus Schwab holding the Great Reset book or something.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Right. The media told us it's a conspiracy theory. There's no Great Reset, and he's like smiling with his book. But he wrote the book. It's just so insane how – I got to say it. It does feel like we're winning when you get stories like the truckers pushing back them starting to back down it they they couldn't pull off what they thought they could pull you know and i mean by that they i mean like these authoritarian political establishment elite types but you know it'll come next right just you just wait give it this like a couple
Starting point is 00:15:38 of more days of the trucker protests and you're immediately going to see the media flood the zone mark my words screenshot this whatever i know we're like um you to see the media flood the zone. Mark my words, screenshot this, whatever. I know we're like, you will see the media pushing stories about self-driving trucks very, very soon as a response to all of this. And suddenly, and like, I remember because Yang talked about this a lot and you're going to say, oh no, it'll be so great. And they won't get in accidents and time will, you know, they will travel faster because they don't have the time restrictions that truckers have etc that's the next thing that's coming guaranteed let me pull up this story we got from the daily mail police threatened to arrest truckers blockading the u.s border in alberta unless they leave cops give freedom convoy an ultimatum after their one-time cheerleader justin trudeau turned on them for protesting his vaccine mandates. So ultimately, the RCMP backed down. But is this them saying, you know, the Mounties are leaving because we've issued your warning, we'll come back later? Or are they
Starting point is 00:16:33 completely unable to do anything about these trucks? I mean, that's kind of the thing, right? And hats off to Rebel News. I think the website is convoyreports.com they have up i think they're doing a fundraiser for lawyers by the way for so what we're talking about for people who um that aren't familiar you have truckers right now that are on the border between alberta and montana that are actually blocking the main roadway on this and i pulled it up on the map this is your basically your main border crossing between Calgary and the entire Pacific Northwest. So if you're coming out of that main city of central, and this is a central agricultural hub, this is a cattle hub. So your beef, some poultry, that's all coming out of there, out of
Starting point is 00:17:15 Calgary, out of that area, they're locking it all down. And the truckers are just basically standing there saying, look, this is a standoff. We are not, we are not going to move the Mounties and rebel rebel news. As far as I can tell, are the only is a standoff. We are not, we are not going to move the Mounties and rebel rebel news. As far as I can tell are the only ones that actually have people who are embedded there. Cause there's no way to get there right now. Otherwise. So it's like the middle of nowhere, but they're putting up and I'm looking just a couple of minutes ago.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Um, the Alberta premier Kenny just declared that the blockade is unlawful warning. The participants are subject to arrest and they're broadcasting so this is like kind of like it's not like this but it's similar to the bundy ranch standoff that took place or the mulhere um reservation it's not like that in the sense they haven't taken over you know like a federal facility or anything like that but this time around rebel media is actually in there embedded so they just six minutes ago posted a video of the truckers releasing a statement in response to the Alberta premiere saying, look, we want dialogue, we want communication,
Starting point is 00:18:11 and we want the mandates lifted. This is a lot like Occupy Wall Street. It's so much like Occupy Wall Street. You were mentioning earlier that Viva Fry was on the ground. For like six hours. Six hours. He didn't do 21 like I did, but he's a cool guy. Viva, we're fans. It're fans all right it's no big
Starting point is 00:18:27 deal but no no but he was you were saying that you know he's going around live streaming on the ground in you know embedded in this moment very similar to what happened with occupy wall street not just with like me covering this and people were giving him batteries people were like coming up to him recognizing him and saying oh viva Viva, yeah, I need a battery pack, man. And they would give him a pack. And then he went into an office at one point and was charging his phone but like interviewing someone while he charged his phone. I mean, it's crazy. He was like meeting, you know, and there was like a singer-songwriter, this girl who was there.
Starting point is 00:18:58 And she like played Amazing Grace just for him. And he's talking to truckers and retired people it was i honestly i kid you not i was watching his live streams and then just any live stream i could of these trucker protests for like the last three days straight so if you've been in my house or if you've been at the studio down in dc literally you see me at the computer all you hear in the background is just and i love it with every hon, it just gets better and better. I need to like... Louder and louder, right? Yes, more honking.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Absolutely. So see, that's the big difference. If you are citizen journalist, you are in China on the ground reporting live stream from the COVID side, you disappear very fast. You know, Chen Jiusi, Zhang Zhan, all those citizen journalists,
Starting point is 00:19:46 they are locked up. We don't know where they are. People tried. And they could be dying of some disease or something. You don't know. There's a big difference.
Starting point is 00:19:54 That's why it's so important for people who love freedom to appreciate what they have now. You've got to fight so hard to keep it, you know? Well,
Starting point is 00:20:01 if I could ask you, Lily, what is one thing that you think Americans need to band together and do right now to prevent our country from becoming keep it, you know? If I could ask you, Lily, what is one thing that you think Americans need to band together and do right now to prevent our country from becoming like the one you left? Well, that's why I'm running for U.S.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Congress, right? Because I say why I'm running? Because I fear the country I love is becoming like the country I loved. And it's getting worse and worse. Not two years. I could not sleep. I saw the writings on the wall. And I saw the similar tactics and features, what's going on in this country with the Maoist culture revolution.
Starting point is 00:20:33 I survived. I just feel like, it's like when you see your neighbor's house on fire, they don't know. What should I do? I see it. I got to warn them, right? Hey, your house is on fire. So our country is going down that path very fast. What should I do? I say it. I got to warn them, right? Hey, your house is on fire. So our country is going down that path very fast.
Starting point is 00:20:50 I have to do something about it. And lots of Americans, when I go out to speak about my stories, they are all very interested in listening to me. But it's like, how come they did not listen to some stories, learn history about it before? So look into our educational system. Yeah. So are you our educational system. Yeah. So are you running for the Libertarian Party?
Starting point is 00:21:07 I'm running as a Republican. Oh, as a Republican. Yes. I have run as before in Colorado. L.P. has no ballot access. And the Republican Party in New Hampshire is quite good. There are lots of people like me inside
Starting point is 00:21:22 to make things happening. Like lots of them in state house, in state senate, we're passing some very good laws right now. I already passed a whole bunch last year that now Democrats trying to reverse them. They're trying to sue our state now to forbid
Starting point is 00:21:38 schools to teach discrimination when race is more superior or interfere than others. What's wrong with that? It's in our state constitution. You cannot teach discrimination in schools. But they say, well, we cannot teach history anymore. We are so afraid of discussions of slavery, which is not true.
Starting point is 00:21:56 I see the memes all day and night. So my Facebook is comprised of populists across the board. I mean, Occupy Wall Street is a big populist movement, and it's split in a lot of ways. A lot of people who supported Occupy ended up supporting Trump later on. Many of them went for Bernie. So it's surprising when I see the divide, and it really is a stark contrast. What I see from the left outright says the right has stepped up to banning books on slavery. They're overtly racist and white supremacist and
Starting point is 00:22:25 like that's just fundamentally not true it's a lie they're pushing that lie about the book mouse total lie total lie so they're saying the book has been banned if you're if your book is available on the rack at barnes and noble it's not banned well if you can bring it into the school and you can read it it's not banned right so the story is essentially that they voted to remove from the curriculum it's like okay there's a lot of books that aren't in school curriculum. They're not all banned. Imagine if they were like, we have 500 books in the curriculum. That means 10 billion books are banned. That's insane. But with the narrative that's coming out is, oh no, they're banning books, they're banning books, and there's nothing you can say to change any of their minds because
Starting point is 00:23:00 there is a tribal narrative. Another thing I want to say that I testified in state capital because the teachers union supporters want to reverse our laws, right? And they are suing our state. And you got about 20 people showed up to testify, support that bill. And you got two aging
Starting point is 00:23:19 women who fled communism to give our strong two cents their work. Totally outnumbered, 2 to 20. But we went there without the paper in front of us. We just told our stories. And I called the NEA. I said, well, if you look at the NEA national, the largest union national
Starting point is 00:23:35 website, they said clearly budget to teach critical race theory into 14,000 school districts. But the people say, oh, we're not teaching critical race theory in 14,000 school districts. But the people say, oh, we're not teaching critical race theory schools. Really?
Starting point is 00:23:48 I said, welcome you New Hampshire chapter of NEA to come out and make a public statement about that because I said, if you want to teach real history, I'm leaving history.
Starting point is 00:23:56 I would like to go to your school, teach your kids about communism. How about that? Yeah. Let's do it. Yeah. They should. So you're running
Starting point is 00:24:04 for the Republican nomination? Yes. The primary is coming up. There are five Republican men in the primary with me, and I welcome all good men, but I have a compelling, unique story, and I understand how precious our freedom is. I feel confident with grassroots support.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Hey, everybody's watching, please. LilyTongueWilliams.com, $10. And I can win. I can be frontrunner tonight. You can make me frontrunner tonight in the Republican primary to say, hey, we love Lily. She's representing the common people
Starting point is 00:24:39 and she is a fierce freedom fighter. Why not let her? Are you involved in the Free State Project? I moved there and signed a pledge to make maximum efforts to create a free society. I was attacked for that by the left. When I was running for little town supervisor of the checklist. Because it's nonpartisan race. But when they found out I was a free stater, they come attack me. And like, it's nonpartisan race but when they find out i was a freestater they come attack
Starting point is 00:25:06 me and like it's like why i'm shouldn't they be for freedom i know for your die so that's how but but the granite progressives come out organize workshops in the libraries every election year to tell people who are the fre staters. We are the radical and right-wing nuts, something like that. They say they even don't understand how organizations work. Everybody goes there, and once they sign the pledge, you move there, you do whatever you want. It's up to you. There's no dues.
Starting point is 00:25:38 There's no requirement. You're on your own, and I choose my own course. So you're running for federal Congress, right? Yes. And if I won the nomination, I will be the historically first Chinese immigrant from mainland China who survived communism to be nominee of a Republican Party in the country.
Starting point is 00:26:00 And then when you get to Washington, will you do everything in your efforts to repeal unconstitutional gun bans and things like that? Of course. If you have not seen my John Stasso interview, I was holding my AR-15. I love it. In front of a U.S. flat. I was attacked also by some local left people to say, she look very scary.
Starting point is 00:26:28 They're losers. She's holding AR-15. I said, well, I am a survivor of communism. I believe Second Amendment right. Otherwise, all the students in Tiananmen Square will not be killed without a fight, right? That's right. And you tell me that I look scary.
Starting point is 00:26:43 I'm a five-foot foot one, a Chinese woman, and I'm very intimidating, you know? So they're afraid of guns, basically. So I think that's part of the problem. People are afraid of guns. Have they tried to handle guns in shooting range? When I first come to United States, first time touch gun, I was scared too.
Starting point is 00:26:59 I don't know what to do. I was like, oh, oh, people say, oh, no, no, no. Don't point at people. Lady number one rule. Yes, number one rule. Do not. You should teach Alec Baldwin. I was like, oh, oh, people say, oh, no, no, no, don't point at people, lady, number one rule. Yes, number one rule, do not. You should teach Alec Baldwin.
Starting point is 00:27:07 I scared, oh, I scared all my, you know, husband's family, it's like, oh, oh,
Starting point is 00:27:12 I forgot, you're from China, you never touch guns. I feel so empowered when I first time hold a gun in my hands, fire first shot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:21 It's like, wow, because I never had that feeling. I was deprived of gun ownership 1.4 billion chinese today deprived the self-defense right that's why they're quiet that's why they comply no matter how bad their life become you know what can you do you know people don't realize about the second amendment the left often says what are you gonna do rise
Starting point is 00:27:44 up against the government blah blah no that's not what it's about it's for one it's it's a it's a force it's a force balancer so you mentioned tiananmen square they roll out these tanks right so so and then basically you tell me exactly what happened with tiananmen square they came and they killed all these students so So what happens that when the premier of China, Hu Yaobang, he was the one not just advocate for economical freedom. He was talking about we should have political freedom as well. So we were in college, like, let's talk about it. Let's have a conversation.
Starting point is 00:28:20 What kind of country we want? Can we become a Western democracy countries? People can vote, can have a dialogue with our leaders. So they were peaceful. But when this leader died, and they were actually just going to Tiananmen Square to mourn his death. Lots, lots of Chinese flowers and all that. But then after a couple weeks, and people start to say, hey, we want to have dialogue with our leaders.
Starting point is 00:28:46 They were not calling to overthrow the government. No, they just say, can we have a dialogue? Can we be represented? Can we have a continued dialogue about political freedom, like a right to vote and right to appeal, rule of law? And at the beginning, the government were quiet. And then more and more students show up. And more and more students start in other cities of the beginning, the government was quiet. And then more and more students showed up. And more and more students started in other cities of the province,
Starting point is 00:29:08 like capitals, like my hometown. And even when Gorbachev visited China that time, by that time it was like 400,000 students at the Amman Square. And they had to reroute for him to visit the state. So after that, I heard that Deng Xiaoping, back then was the leader, and talked to the military in Beijing to say, and go rowing to the Tiananmen Square. But the Beijing troops knew
Starting point is 00:29:34 those were our best and brightest students and peaceful. They were not going to kill them. And you see citizens come out, beg them to leave, and literally have offered them water and bread when they're hungry to say, leave. You know they're not threats. They're not counter-revolutionaries. Go home.
Starting point is 00:29:53 So Beijing general actually later got fired because Beijing troops left. Then Xiaoping went back to Hubei, where Wuhan is capital, to say, go to Tiananmen Square. A whole bunch of young people, county revolutionaries, are trying to overthrow the government. Traitors.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Traitors, basically. They killed them all. 10,000 estimated to die. So what people need to understand about the Second Amendment, that story, what would have happened if they actually were armed? I don't think it would have escalated to a major conflict. what would have happened if they actually were armed?
Starting point is 00:30:25 I don't think it would have escalated to a major conflict. It would have escalated to a dialogue because the government would be like, look, we're not going to go in there. People there have weapons and it could go south real quick. So we need to figure out how to defuse this. In the United States, a lot of these large instances, these large moments where people – the left is like, what do you think you're going to do? Rise up against the government, blah, blah, blah. No, it just never escalates that point because no one, they know that there's a mutually assured destruction. But a really good example of the deterring effect and the balancing, the force
Starting point is 00:30:55 balancer is the Breonna Taylor story. The police kicked the door in. Breonna Taylor's boyfriend returned fire, hitting a cop with a bullet. The cop was bleeding from the leg. They fired. They killed Brianna Taylor. But there were no the charges were dropped against the boyfriend because he had a right to keep in bare arms and defend his home. That means the police in this country know a law abiding citizen may be armed. And if you try and break into their house and violate their rights, you could die. You could die. And Grant Taylor's boyfriend did not get in trouble. I mean, they pushed him through it a little bit. But eventually, he just was like, look, it was a lawful self-defense of his house.
Starting point is 00:31:33 So in a country like you look at these videos out of Australia or the UK, the cops kick the door and they walk and they do whatever they want. In the United States, not so much. Still, yes, they do, but not so much. Well, that's why if you look at my past, 2013, I published open ad by National Review online to say like guns against tyranny. And I talk about Tiananmen Square. I talk about Chinese people feel powerless to defend themselves, their families, and anybody can kick your door open. And I was told when I live a very poor,
Starting point is 00:32:10 illiterate working parents' neighborhood, say, hey, if criminals come, go grab our choppers in the kitchen. Like when you do bones and chickens, you know, use those. Chopsticks don't do any sense, so you have to just grab the knife, you know. So when I come to this country, when I first time got passionately involved in politics, because 2013, the Democrats in Colorado wanted to limit the AR-15 magazines. So I testified first time. I did not know how to testify in this long line. I had to go in with somebody, my husband called me straight red.
Starting point is 00:32:50 I survived China. So I said, I'm not going to get in there, testify in that line. So now it would be midnight. But I saw somebody's expert witness, like a president of Rocky Mountain Gunwale Association, say, hey, can I go in with you? Because I survived China. I want to give my two cents. He said, say, hey, can I go in with you? Because I survived China. I want to give my two cents. He said, okay, come with me.
Starting point is 00:33:08 So I went in with him. First time I testified in my life, in my new country, to say what you're doing is a communist way. We need to have a second mind. The right to defend ourselves is our God-given right. Are you becoming like a communist?
Starting point is 00:33:24 Well, nobody said anything, but they passed the bill along the party line. I become political activist after that. Good for you. 强杆子里面出局圈 Yes, that's Chairman Mao's quote. Chairman Mao is the one who said this perfectly.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Political power grows from the barrel of a gun. And then what did the CCP do? They banned all the guns. Well, when the PRC founded in 1949, my dad told me he remembered. Because before that, some people still have some guns,
Starting point is 00:33:55 even though Nationalist Party by Chiang Kai-shek also started to have gun control laws because he was kind of corrupt too. But after PRC, they calmly said, turn over all your guns, whatever you have in your house, including those people who are supposed to be kind of like a little bit like a Manisha group. Turn your guns.
Starting point is 00:34:12 All we search door by door. Then you go to jail if we find a gun in your house. I love this point. I hate that I'm able to make it when these Democrat types say, no one is trying to take your guns away. I just say, Waco. And then if they don't know what it is, I'll be like, how many children are worth killing so that you can take guns? Ruby Ridge. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:35 There are lots of cases to prove. And the people, unless some people will say, I guarantee you 100% that our government in the US will not become tyrants. Who can guarantee that? If you don't trust that, then gun debate is over. It's simple. Over a long enough period of time, a system that has centralized authority, if you have 100 leaders and you have a system of centralized authority and 99 of them are good people, but you end up finally getting that one dictator, then he goes nuts and seizes more power and kills people. We just shouldn't have that centralized kind of power. Just like Mao, right?
Starting point is 00:35:13 Mao's like a sociopath. So you don't have a rule of law. You have a rule of man. What if you run into seven madmen? And when I was growing up as one madman sociopath, 20 million people died during his culture revolution. So you go through the culture revolution in China. You come to the U.S.
Starting point is 00:35:31 You're in Colorado in, you said, 2013, I think, right? Yeah. And now, how do you, I mean, I kind of asked you this already, but seeing everything that's going on right now, it's got to be kind of like i don't nerve-wracking you're like i i left china to get away from this and now these countries are doing similar things and they're ramping up towards this this you know authoritarianism well that uh um like defectors from russia they said that too say the you know they will corrupt the free world one little bit socialism on every. So they sell you free stuff first. So our young people need to realize that. Free stuff, it's what they use to get you interesting socialism
Starting point is 00:36:14 because equity, I mean, they don't realize that is communist term. So once you get into the door, you vote for them, and they have total control, all of a sudden, you cannot vote anymore. You cannot have guns anymore. You cannot have private property anymore. And your children don't belong to you, they belong to the state. And you don't have a medical decision anymore. You know, we have seen plenty of that
Starting point is 00:36:35 in the past two years. That's why I feel like I can do more now by going to run for office, so I can get my messages out. I want to pull up this tweet here from Benny Johnson. Savage Canadian conservative leader puts final nail in Trudeau's coffin in parliament in front of the whole world. This is a truly epic 30 second smackdown. And the reason I think this clip is important is that it shows for all of the bad that's been happening in Western countries, there is still an active resistance speaking up and saying, no,
Starting point is 00:37:10 listen to this. This is in relation to the truckers protest, the freedom convoy, the great honking, and how Trudeau and Kendall lied, smearing these people. Listen to this. Let me actually fix the audio. I do get very defensive of Canadians who are outside today, patriotic, peace-loving Canadians who are called misogynist and racist by the prime minister. So again, I will ask the prime minister, who may I remind this House war, blackface on more times than he can remember, apologize to the peace-loving, patriotic Canadians who are outside right now just asking to be heard. Will he speak to them? And then they all stand up and clap. So just to quickly summarize, she said, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:57 he smeared these people, these peaceful protesters, a prime minister, and then you hear someone actually say, blackface prime minister, and then she says, a prime minister who's worn blackface more times than he can remember has the nerve to smear and insult these working class people. So when we hear these stories about how really bad China is and how it got to that point, we can see similar things happening here. We're actively resisting. Up in Canada, they've got people – obviously with the Freedom Convoy, the Great Honkening, people're actively resisting. Up in Canada, they've got people, obviously, with the Freedom Convoy, the Great Honkening, people are actively resisting. In the US, we're getting stories now that maybe in the US there's going to be some Great Honkening protests and trucker stuff. So
Starting point is 00:38:33 I'm fairly optimistic, to be honest. I think we're going to resist all this. Yeah, I'm glad to see you're optimistic. We have no place to go. Well, also, you're running for office. So I mean, there we go. I mean, even more optimistic. Well, I hope so. I'm glad. I'm glad I can make some difference. I feel it's my calling to do this. When I feel my country is becoming like China,
Starting point is 00:38:54 it's like, hell no. How about my three adult children? How about my grandchildren? How about all the freedom lovers? Let me ask you, though. In China, are there people who are from America going over there and being like, we've got to make sure China stays like China
Starting point is 00:39:09 because it's becoming too much like America with freedom. Yeah, our businesses. Well, actually, I have seen the U.S. consulate office staff and families wanting to leave China now because they cannot stand the zero COVID policy. But I mean,
Starting point is 00:39:25 are there Americans who defected to China who love communism and want to live under that? Speaking in the media being like, America's terrible and China's so good.
Starting point is 00:39:34 I don't remember any. That's why I think we need volunteers so they come and there's professors from this country and social justice lawyers. Please,
Starting point is 00:39:42 go to China. We would love it. Send them over there. I will pay for it. I know you will. You do see, though, if you turn on Chinese state media, so CGTV, they used to call it CCTV9, but they changed it to CGTV,
Starting point is 00:39:56 you will see Westerners on there, American and British professors in some cases who are going on that are delivering these essential CCP talking points on these things, talking about, oh, it's so great that China has the Olympics. Yeah, paid. It's so wonderful. Yeah, they're all being paid for this.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Yeah, they're making money. You know, and you track it down and they had some like, you know, maybe adjunct assistant faculty position somewhere at some college that nobody's ever heard of. Yet when they go to China, they're they're feeded as this great American scholar. And here they are. And they are paid to push the company line. And we see this again and again and again. This is why there is an actual elite merger going on.
Starting point is 00:40:35 I mean, it isn't even just, you know, there was that Harvard professor who was Charles Lieber, who was finally convicted. He hasn't been sentenced yet. But you're seeing some of this stuff with MIT, the scientists at GSK who just got arrested in Philadelphia area, who were digging into, of course, monoclonal antibodies. So this has been going on more and more and more. And yeah, there are people who are doing it,
Starting point is 00:40:57 but I don't necessarily know if they're doing it because they believe it or they're just being paid. Well, remember the Confucius Institute? Confucius Institute, yep. How naive we were. A lot of Chinese government-funded organization called Confucius Institute going to our colleges,
Starting point is 00:41:12 set up schools in middle school, high school to teach children, our children, about China and glorify China. And until they wake up, it's like 15 years later, they have infiltrated China, the United States, Canada, Australia. And now you know what happened in Australia?
Starting point is 00:41:29 And you got Hong Kong protesters, right, to support Hong Kong student movement. You got pro-Beijing people. And they were fighting in EU and they're fighting in Australia. Two sides are equal. It's like, wow, communists are in the Western democracy countries everywhere.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Yeah, I should just point out with people like lebron james and mark cuban and even i think elon musk has made some positive statements about china as well maybe they're not just in china you know going on chinese shows and being like man you know china's so great and when i see china becoming more like america i said we have to stop this we We have to make, you know, but you have LeBron James. You have the NBA. You have American companies. So it's probably worse. So Elon, and I think I talked about this before last time I was on the show.
Starting point is 00:42:13 He's got his Twitter. And on his Twitter, he'll be very, you know, he almost like libertarian sounding sometimes, right, on his Twitter account. But Elon's also got a WeChat account. And WeChat, and he's got a Weibo account. So these are, this is Chinese social media and he'll go on there and he's congratulating the CCP on their 100 year anniversary. He's congratulating the Chinese government. He's opening his new Tesla show showroom where in Xinjiang, in the actual province where the Uyghurs are all being locked up. So, you know, just something to show that, you know, he's clearly got a different message depending on which audience he's talking to.
Starting point is 00:42:47 So what ends up happening here in the United States? Are we going to see active resistance? When we look over at Quebec, we have the trucker protests, we have the freedom convoy, they're pulling back the vax tax. They're worried about social cohesion. But there are some countries in Europe that are doubling down, like, you know, Austria, They've made the vaccine compulsory. I'm wondering what happens here in the United States because I just don't see at this point how you could possibly unite the left and the right.
Starting point is 00:43:15 The barrier is solidified. They believe completely different things. They will not listen to a word you say. It is just two sides with no middle ground. I can. I can unite at least the people of New Hampshire and the country because I'm the inconvenient minority who knows the strengths, exceptions of the United States, but also knows the division of society that caused by government and the media colluding together to divide people
Starting point is 00:43:46 yeah but yeah i agree but i mean look they say the the funny point that was brought up to us in a super chat was that the left claims black people can't be racist but candace owens is racist i just feel like there is no compromising and whoopi goldberg is perfectly fine yeah i know roseanne barr gets fired from her show for making an off-color joke. Whoopi Goldberg outright makes crazy statements about the Holocaust. And they're like, well, you know. All we have to do is speak to people who are confused, independent, in the middle. That this kind of division is very dangerous to our country and our children
Starting point is 00:44:25 because it's a typical communist tactic. Like by Mao, he separated people into oppressor versus oppressed. Sounds familiar today? Yes, it does. And the five black classes under oppressor, and the five red classes under oppressed. Then going through struggle sessions, and get people hate each other,
Starting point is 00:44:46 and they control all the media. Remember Xinhua News Agency was a private media company when the CCP founded 1920s. Later they become the largest propaganda machine in the world. So I don't buy into like, oh, all those big tech, they're just private company. Are you sure?
Starting point is 00:45:02 100% private? No government pressure? No government pressure? No government investment? No pieces? Like, no. Look at what you're saying. So we have to kind of, I want to treat people with respect.
Starting point is 00:45:14 I know both sides sometimes, I think we need to tone down a little bit to say, I respect your opinions, even though I don't agree with you. But I'm willing to listen to you and have conversation with you. Well, it's interesting because even these large social media companies in the organizations we refer to as big tech, many of them have investment from In-Q-Tel,
Starting point is 00:45:31 which is actually United States government run venture capital firm. What I would like to ask you, Lily, is have you had any success at reaching Americans who identified as communists or socialists as opposed to the people in the center? I gave you an example. I have been going to colleges for the past four years to speak to students. When I went to West Virginia, right here, right? The university, one Bernie Sanders supporter come to listen to my story, my talk. He stayed for a long time. Two weeks later, he went back to Turning Point USA organizer and host to say,
Starting point is 00:46:06 please tell Lily. She changed my mind. Amazing. Wow. And now he joined the Turning Point USA. Wow. Government sucks,
Starting point is 00:46:16 I realize. It's the government. You didn't ask her to say that? Yeah. I don't think the Republican Party is the answer. I think it's got to be the people getting out and voting in the primaries, voting locally.
Starting point is 00:46:28 I say it like whatever it is, if you don't know what it is, I remember seeing in Chicago is like vote for comptroller. And I'm like, I don't know what that is. But you've got to know what it is. You've got to vote for these people because what happens is even your school board ends up getting taken over by Marxists, communists, far leftists. And we've seen this in West Virginia, people from the DC area that are ultra woke, far left move out there specifically to get elected to school boards so they can start indoctrinating kids in conservative areas, in moderate areas, in a political areas. That's what they want to do. They want to spread that message. So you've got to pay attention to
Starting point is 00:47:04 who these people are. You got to know who you're voting for. You've got to vote local. You've got to vote for your state rep, your state senator. You've got to vote in the primaries because you're running in the primary and if people want someone like you to win, they've got to go out in the primaries to vote. Otherwise you get neocon establishment Republicans. Yes, and you cannot
Starting point is 00:47:21 be afraid. You cannot be afraid to call white supremacists racist. You have to afraid to call white supremacist racist. You have to reject that. Those people who call you that, they just don't know the history. If they're young or if they do do that, it's Marxist communist tactic. Don't be afraid of them, Connie. We have to counter strike to say you are Marxist.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Did you see that Ted Lieu tweeted at Ron DeSantis or whatever? And he's like, it's not hard to condemn Nazis, Ron. I saw that and I was just like, at this point, I don't think there is any unaffiliated person who is sitting there going like, wow, Ron DeSantis wouldn't condemn Nazis. He must be right. No, no, I'm sorry. At this point, everyone is either like, I know he's not, but I'm going to call him that anyway him that anyway or they support him they say we know you're just lying yeah there's where is that where's the person confused about this i think what's going on though and i think a lot of people are missing this is that in all the talk about ron de sandas 2024 will he run won't he run is he going to go against trump etc etc a lot of what's been missing in that conversation is that Ron DeSantis is up for reelection this year in Florida.
Starting point is 00:48:26 And so people are missing the fact that you are going to get psyoped by the media and by the left like you've never seen before in Florida. Now, remember, Ron only won by like one point, right? The last time around in 2018. Now, he wasn't as much of a household name back then as he is now his approval ratings are much much higher and so obviously with the mood of the country he should do quite well but they are going to throw the absolute gauntlet at ron desantis so they're going to go this is just the start this is just the start of it they find some crazy group on the side of the road you are going to see a complete unleash on r DeSantis. And that's going to be
Starting point is 00:49:06 the test run for 2024. Maybe, maybe. But the one thing stopping Ron DeSantis from a potential 2024 run is that he is the governor of Florida. And a lot of people want him to stay there because he's more effective than he would be as president. If they come at him and they actually end up winning Florida, then DeSantis could run in 2024. Maybe that's good for Republicans and populists or maybe you're right. And maybe what they want to do is they want to take the governorship from him so that he says, okay, well, now I'm free to run in 2024 and create a rift between him and Trump and the support and the base. And maybe that's a chaos strategy. They will do anything they can to split up the populist movement. You're seeing them already do this. you're seeing people who are just spread you're
Starting point is 00:49:48 gonna see like ron by the way what's the biggest right to the main the main argument for ron desantis and i'm i don't have like a dog in this fight i'm not arguing one way or the other but the main idea is they say well trump has baggage and ron doesn't and and and ron is effective and you know people get turned off when they hear about Trump. But with Ron, he doesn't have that stuff. The point is to give him the baggage now. They want to bloody him up and dirty him up and destroy his Wikipedia page and do anything they can to just put as many marks on this guy before 2024. I think we have deeper problems than that. I don't know if that's going to matter as much.
Starting point is 00:50:26 I'm sure obviously it will matter, but— I hope it doesn't. This country is so hyper-polarized, I don't know how much more we can withstand. You can go on—look at Project Veritas. I mean, James O'Keefe is getting more and more popular among regular people. I went to a little farm nearby. In fact, we have a little alpaca behind Lily sitting right here that we put up every so often. And it looks just like retracto. I thought it was retracto, actually.
Starting point is 00:50:54 It just looks like it. And we were out at this little farm, just a little farm, not super political people. And we were just talking about regular stuff, and they were fairly moderate. And then I mentioned, I think we had just had, like, James james o'keefe on the show this was a few months ago and then there's a guy in the store and the woman they're both like we love james o'keefe and i was like really and they were like yes they were like you know we're sick of the manipulation the lies he does great work when i when i i heard that and we're in like a moderate area it's like decently blue and and
Starting point is 00:51:25 we're like we're not far from dc so it's it's fairly mixed politically but i with all of the smears they've thrown at him with his wikipedia page being completely fictitious nonsensical op-eds saying project veritas is far right racist conspiracy whatever the the the narrative control is gone do you see what they're doing now on Wikipedia? There's actually an argument right now on Wikipedia. Apparently there's a page called the Massacres of Communism. And they want to delete it. There's actually an argument about deleting that page because they're trying to say this stuff about, oh, well, this was unintentional.
Starting point is 00:52:02 This was just a – what do they say in China? The famine years, the three years of famine. Three years of natural disasters. Three years of natural disasters, right, natural disasters. But my point is just it's ineffective. All the smears they've thrown at him and still regular people down the street are big fans of his. They didn't know who I was. They didn't watch the show.
Starting point is 00:52:20 They didn't listen to podcasts, but they were familiar with Project Veritas, and they loved it. I mean look at the Epstein expose that Veritas did with uh amy roebuck or whatever her name is roebuck biggest story they've ever done they they get a leaked video of abc basically saying they had witness testimony about epstein that there was that was there was shut down and that's project veritas doing that's it's it's they're not only putting out partisan information but i use james o'keefe as an example that when you mention Ron DeSantis and his Wikipedia page and trying to smear him, I'm like, I don't know if that matters anymore. I think – Well, it's not just the Wikipedia though, and that's part of it.
Starting point is 00:52:54 But it's the idea is it's the steady drumbeat, and it's going to – first, it's the Nazis on the side of the road. What happens when – they still haven't caught the pipe bomber from January 5th. Sure, sure. of the road what happens when they're they still haven't caught the pipe bomber from january sure sure but what happens when there's more stuff like that that goes on in i'm telling you they are going to throw so the regime is going to do anything they can to take out someone they view but it's like a person in quicksand thrashing violently and sinking faster for doing it you look at what they said we covered this the other day talking about the great honking the toronto sun was like the trucker protest that are a bunch of far right racist Nazi flag waving people who stole food from the homeless. And we're just like, geez.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Was this that one columnist, that one crazy columnist guy who was writing that? Well, they were like Trudeau said it. Well, like these people just got on a truck one morning. You're like, you know what? We're going to mess with homeless people today. That's our whole cause. Like to hear the media characterize them, that's what you'd think it was like, you know, Hey, I'm going to go be racist with my fellow truckers. Like
Starting point is 00:53:49 they have no other motivation besides trying to be horrible. Fringe minority. They call this, this, this massive convoy, which is now spreading to all these other cities, which may be spreading to the U S I'm just saying, I feel like we're winning. And by we it's, it's such a massive and eclectic political group. I mean, you've got post-liberal, I guess they call it, people who used to be your traditional liberal now finding themselves politically homeless or more aligned with conservatives simply because they agree on fundamental human rights. You've got libertarians all of a sudden agreeing with conservatives on a bunch of issues.
Starting point is 00:54:19 And it's because the establishment and the left are so insane that all these other groups have basically been like, hey, can we band together? Because they've lost their minds. Right. The time for talk and time to discuss sometimes just becomes so hard to find now peacefully. I really prefer we use our constitutional republic system to choose your truly representative in D.C. So we don't have to use our second amendment. Of course, that's something you cannot compromise. That's our last resort to fight for our freedom. But at the same time, every year you have local town election for school board, for other council meetings, city seats, and then every two years you have congressional elections. People just have to get out of their comfort zone to take action.
Starting point is 00:55:07 So if you just keep your head down, I can guarantee you it's not going to be over. They will continue to push you. The communists will come to test your limits and will take your freedom away. I, you know, when it comes to the Second Amendment and stuff, I don't think I have the same opinion as a lot of people who think, you know, one day you'll need to stand up for your rights. And it's like, yeah, but hold on. Yes, but this trucker convoy is just a bunch of people driving their trucks. And look how much they've accomplished and are accomplishing. Peaceful protests work this time, Sid.
Starting point is 00:55:40 That's right. In fact, I've said it. We're not in that era anymore where standing in a building gains you political power. With January 6th, it's like, what do they think? It is 1700s. You stand in the building. You're like, aha, we have the building. It's ours now. I don't know what that's going to do in a digital era. But if tomorrow every single person in New York City said there is no vaccine mandate, then there wouldn't be one. And, you know, the new mayor or whatever politicians can say, no, no, no, no, no, but we said, and everyone would just be like, eh, shut up.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Yeah. Then there would be none. So it's not even necessarily about nonviolent civil disobedience or protest. It's about the will of the people and what they're truly willing to do. Noncompliance. I mean, look at it this way. Speed limit. Can't go more than five miles over the speed limit. That's a ticket. Literally everyone does. So therefore, it's effectively unenforceable in many ways. You might get singled out, but depending on where your jurisdiction is, you typically go in and be
Starting point is 00:56:35 like, you're on four miles over the limit. He's going to get out of my courtroom. You know what I mean? So cultural enforcement is the main issue we need to strive for. And that's why when I look at the failures of the attempts at smearing, when I look at the ratings collapse of CNN, when I look at the massive popularity of shows like Joe Rogan, I'm like, we win the message, we win everything. You get all the marbles. This is also why the trucker uprising is such an inflection point right now, because it's also relevatory in a sense, because they are actually taking action that is threatening to the regime. They are quite literally holding up the backbone of our society and they are preventing the supply chains from being continued in certain areas and
Starting point is 00:57:16 in key areas. But you're noticing, though, and I can look around, there's lots of people who run around calling themselves populist leaders. You see as a populist right, populist left, calling them conservatives who aren't supporting the truckers or who are running around. This is, by the way, why Aaron O'Toole, who's the leader of the Conservative Party in Canada right now, just as an example, he's certainly not the only one. They're actually talking about taking away the head of the party from him because he's just not doing much to support the truckers.
Starting point is 00:57:46 And I think this is absolutely revelatory situation where this is a litmus test actually right now. But if you are not actively supporting the truckers, then what are you doing, right? Really, what else are you doing other than saying I need to support these guys? Because they are taking action that's being effective in real time. It's peaceful. It's fun. They turned it into a rave in Ottawa, right? They're not yet.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Okay. Maybe there's like one or two nut jobs who show up where, you know, the guy's got a mask on carrying a Confederate flag. You know, who's even threw him out. They threw him out. So how many people are actually going to be showing the most powerful video that came out today was rebel media when they showed the Mounties, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police walking away. They were given the enforcement rule to go in and start arresting people and they stood down. They can't do it. You know, I remember during Occupy Wall Street, you've got how many, how many millions of people at Manhattan on the island? I think it's like 2 million and then, or somewhere around there.
Starting point is 00:58:44 And then the entirety of New York City, the five boroughs is I think it's like 2 million or somewhere around there. And then the entirety of New York City, the five boroughs is I think what, like 7 or 9 million or some ridiculously large number. And I was telling, how many NYPD cops are there? 30,000, 40,000. There are not enough cops to actually stop a seriously large populist uprising. Like during the May Day protests, there was something like 100,000, this is back during Act of Independence, like 100,000 people in 2012 marching down Broadway. And if all of them decided to just break social norms
Starting point is 00:59:15 and go full Antifa, city's gone. There's no way, they would have to call in the National Guard and they probably wouldn't even be able to get enough National Guard in. You get to a point where you have 50,000 truckers. What do you do? You're going to send in some Mounties, start arresting them one by one? You don't have the resources
Starting point is 00:59:31 to stretch the 50 miles to actually do that. They can't do anything about it. Did we even talk about the tow truck companies yet? No. Tim, to your point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you have the story? I don't know if you want to pull it up. No, I don't know where to find it.
Starting point is 00:59:46 I just wanted to say, too, here, that this is the fact that they can't enforce it is another reason why it's so important to them to set the narrative. They want you to be opposed to this group. They want to turn the entire public against them because they know there's no way they're going to be able to enforce their will. Well, I want to say something that lots of people, because they live in fear, they bought into the rhetoric of government and the media. They feel like, oh, government is good for public health and for society
Starting point is 01:00:12 and broader common good. But that's exactly the same as the communists sold us in China. It's for public good. You don't have gun rights because without the CCP, China would be totally collapsed. And we're not capable of democracy either like Taiwan rights because without the CCP, China would be totally collapsed. And we're not capable
Starting point is 01:00:26 of democracy either like Taiwan people because without CCP, there's no stability. There are two rules of propaganda. Number one, parties are always right. Always right. Number two, all the media, all the press repeat the same lies
Starting point is 01:00:41 every day by lots of people. You become the truth. So I have to thank you, Tim. You and all those alternative medias and Jack, you are bringing truth to people. And you trust people to decide. And I'm just trying to wake up people to say, stay away
Starting point is 01:00:58 from the media, go to alternative media and truth should give you the power and to set you free. And that way you can understand what is government mandate now. Oh, government mandate is not just a requirement. It's a force. If they mandate something you don't follow, you'll get fined. If you don't pay your fine, you're going to go to the locked up. You're going to lose your job. You're going to stay home. Look what happened to Australia, right? It's just that people have to understand government represents force against the regular citizens. You can choose to get a vaccine,
Starting point is 01:01:29 but if you force somebody to get a vaccine, what is freedom about if you cannot even control what this goes inside your body as medicine? That's a fundamental human right. So all those leftists support human rights should understand that government is the fault. Let people decide. Amen. So we have this story. It's from Western Standard. Now, I have to say, I'm not familiar with what Western Standard is. I've never read them before.
Starting point is 01:01:56 And part of me wants to say, well, I don't know if I can trust this news out, but I've got to be honest. When I read the mainstream media, I often know that I can't trust them. So I'll just say this. Take it with a grain of salt for what it is. This is what they're reporting. They're reporting that Alberta towing companies are rejecting requests to supply trucks to the RCMP. Quote, a lot of these smaller companies don't want to ruin their reputation in the communities they serve, so they don't want to get involved. I mean, that sounds,
Starting point is 01:02:22 that sounds, I mean, completely correct and reasonable. I mean, imagine sounds completely correct and reasonable. I mean, imagine you have a small business. You're a tow truck driver. You know everyone loves the truckers, and the police are like, go tow. You're going to be like, no way. And if you read down the story, it does say that they actually were calling the tow truck companies directly to get quotes from them and that they do have a few listed. They said they talked to some people out of the Calgary area and they've got names and specifics involved in this. So it seems like pretty good reporting. But it's the same idea that, look, these guys are in the Calgary area,
Starting point is 01:02:56 these tow truck companies, and they're saying, look, we work with the trucking industry on a regular basis. You're asking us essentially to go after our own customers and our friends and our partners and our B2B contracts that we've got and that we would obviously relationships that we don't want to hurt to have, you know, to injure. And so we're not going to take this work and we just don't want to get involved. And, you know, the Mounties are saying, come and get them. So then the Mounties are going to turn around and say, well, wait a minute, you know, what do we do? Like, how do we get rid of all the trucks? Even if they go in, certainly they can arrest all the truckers, but that wouldn't move the
Starting point is 01:03:29 trucks. You need the truckers to move the trucks. Right. You need the truckers, right. They've got, you know, the keys. And I don't even know if the Mounties, you know, do they have CDLs? Can they drive those trucks? They have the, it's, that's actually one of the beautiful things about the trucker protest,
Starting point is 01:03:43 right? Because, you know, the logistics are, this is what they always say is that amateurs talk strategy, professionals talk logistics. Think about it, right? Actually think through this. If you wanted to shut down these protests logistically, how would you do it? Well, that's the beauty of these protests. Right. You can.
Starting point is 01:04:02 You actually can. I mean, I was mentioning this the other day. If the protest is literally everyone says, let's go drive downtown. No one's broken any laws. So sure, you've got these big rigs that are pulling into the city and they're honking their horns. But if the cop walks up to one of these rigs, say, like in Ottawa, who's honking the horn or who's on the highway and they say, hey, everyone's got to get out of here. You got to move back. Buddy, I'm not here with the convoy.
Starting point is 01:04:24 I'm just driving my truck. What are you going to do about it? Right. Your intent is within your brain. You illegally parked your truck. Yeah. I mean, if you if they all go to downtown Ottawa and they're all in the city's grid locked, the cops can walk up to you and say, move your car.
Starting point is 01:04:40 I'm like, I want to. They're like, no more protesting. I'm not protesting. I'm just driving my car. We're stuck. Also, the fact that truckers have this kind of power when they protested and power that we never considered. I mean, so we all understand that they deliver the food to us. They're incredibly important.
Starting point is 01:04:55 But everything you're mentioning about the fact that you couldn't tow them, Tim, what you're saying about the fact that the police could never really enforce a suppression of their protest because you can't determine intention in that way. It just goes to show that for all the leverage that they've had, the fact that this is the first time that they're actually speaking out and having a protest of this sort really speaks, A, to their collective character, and B, the fact that they're probably right about this. This isn't a group of people that's constantly fretting and trying to get their way. This is a serious issue. And they're saying, can we please be taken seriously as valued members of society and
Starting point is 01:05:27 be allowed to determine what is put into our own bodies? I'll tell you this. This is the rate. So it's a brilliant protest, the trucker convoy. They're going about it very, very smart, tactfully. There's a lot truckers could do to completely shut down a country. Yes. And they're not doing it because that would probably piss off too many regular people.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Imagine if on all of the two-lane highways across the United States, two truckers just went 20 miles under the speed limit and drove side by side. Yep. Just jamming up every interstate across the country, and it would only take a couple hundred trucks to do it. Now imagine if you had 50,000 truckers across the U.S. who all decided just the two of us right now in this spot are going to cause a major traffic jam.
Starting point is 01:06:10 Tim, they're going to accuse you of inciting violence now in the media. For saying that they... Some truckers are going to do this. I'm kidding. No, no, no. Truckers do this in protest. I'm saying if they wanted to go to a larger scale, they could, and they're choosing not to. They're just in a big convoy showing everybody that they they support a cause they oppose the mandates yeah imagine if they actually tried to disrupt trade imagine how insane first of all imagine if they just said i'm not driving today
Starting point is 01:06:35 so nobody brings food if they did a general strike imagine if they were like i'll drive but we're going to drive real slow there's so much they could do they're choosing not to do and think about too and trudeau even has i found his tweet the other day you know he had hashtag thank a trucker the other day because so think about it all of the blue city leftists that have been supporting lockdown policies for all of this time because they've got their sinecures they're making their money right they're all still getting paid for sitting at home doing nothing they're doing uber eats they're getting you know they're getting their netflix the reason that they have supplies their entire lifestyle was upheld that entire time because simply because to your point truckers never went off the job truckers never stopped working truckers are literally
Starting point is 01:07:22 essential workers right you know there's this whole you, I don't even know who it was that came in and said, oh, the news media is essential. Really? I don't think the news media is essential workers. No, not even remotely. No, truckers, yes. Absolutely an essential job. Well, hold on. No.
Starting point is 01:07:36 And it's those same, to end my point, it's those same exact people who are attacking the very people that allowed you to be able to live through those lockdowns when you were living lives of luxury for an entire year i gotta push back journalists are essential workers but we don't have any is the problem we have like a small handful in this country yeah so when you know cnn is like we're essential workers i'm like shut your mouth like not you know when you have the small handful of actual reporters, people like Matt Taibbi, for instance, and what Rebel News is doing there on the ground, that's essential reporting. But CNN's panels about Donald Trump during COVID, please. You know, these truckers in Canada actually remind me.
Starting point is 01:08:19 Remember not long ago, we had the Southwest pilots calling sick, canceling the soldiers. It's their peaceful way to also protest. But this is interesting. I actually talked to a pilot to understand because the media said there's no sick out. It's fake news. So I talked to a pilot on the phone, and he said there is no sick out. There is no protest. It's worse than that.
Starting point is 01:08:41 What had happened was the mandates had stressed the workforce to the point where they were just individually saying, I'm going to call in sick today. Wow. So it wasn't like anyone organized anything. You know, when I was being told by this guy, he was like, listen, the idea that there's an organized protest means that there's a lot of people who are just following the leader. But this is actually grassroots. When they announced the vaccine mandates, a lot of employees just said, okay, I'm going to use up what sick time I have left and I'm done.
Starting point is 01:09:07 So all of these people calling and saying, disrupting everything. Well, the media was correct. It wasn't a mass protest. It was worse. The system was collapsing. Yeah, it could be individual just to start to resist and stress out. It's like, I don't feel like going to work anymore, you know, and that's the beauty of it. I said, you know, we have so many people like that in this country once they had enough of the covid two
Starting point is 01:09:28 years shut down rise of tyranny and the people's like this is not the american we know about and now what's going on also in school shut down schools parents cannot go to work learning stuff that they don't approve online and tell parents you could be potentially domestic tourists people are fed up people are fed up yeah one thing that's actually going i think to be an unintended consequence of this is that truckers all of a sudden just found out how important they are that's what i'm saying the next level so you're gonna see by the way a lot of the you know for if there's collective bargaining that goes on they're gonna be getting paid and you're going to see, by the way, a lot of the, you know, for if there's collective bargaining that goes on, they're going to be getting paid. And you're going to see, I do think you're going to see a lot of people now looking out at this and saying, you know what?
Starting point is 01:10:11 That doesn't actually look like a bad life, you know, right? You don't need to go to college. You don't need to get massively in debt. You go get your CDL, which you can study for it. You can get it. You learn the basic mechanics of being able to operate a big rig. You go out there and it basically is if you are willing to spend that much time on the road but hey you get to listen to long-form podcasts like timcast irl and others while you're driving
Starting point is 01:10:37 the truck and you know you you get to see tons of parts of the country and you get to make bank. We actually have a friend who immigrated here on the green card lottery from Eastern Europe, um, came to the U S literally. I picked them up at Dallas airport, him and his wife with, they had two suitcases with them, but he was a commercial truck driver back home, learned enough English to be able to pass the test within five years. He owns two of his own trucks now owns a home he's been driving his wife's english was better than his so she's a dispatcher and he's been to like all 50 states already yeah well with the exception of all 49 not hawaii yet so one thing i was sort of touching on and wanted to get into a little bit here is the fact that for as unbelievably powerful and important truckers
Starting point is 01:11:22 are as a collective group the fact that we have not heard as much from them as a force as you tend to hear from other unions and worker organizations and groups of people in this country. And I don't know that it's so much the case that truckers just realized how important they are now. I think they've known. But this is one of the professions where people still genuinely care about the contribution they're making to society rather than just what they're taking home in terms of money. And also I have to say this, another reason why I do genuinely believe that they care about what they're doing, they care about what they're providing, and they tend to be more down-to-earth people, is because this is one of the few professions where you can support a family
Starting point is 01:11:57 that does not require a college education. And that means these people are not going off to these institutions to be brainwashed with all these ridiculous ideas and coming out as communists. and it shows their disdain for working-class people. There's a comic that's funny. It's from Stone Toss, and I love how the left really, really despises Stone Toss. I don't know much about him other than there's comics on the internet, and one's good,
Starting point is 01:12:31 and it's a leftist being like, the workers of the world unite, and then it's a right-wing guy, and he's wearing a cross, and he's like, all right, I'm in, and then the leftist is like, no, no thanks, not you. It's like we support the work. This is, by way where you get um marxist leninism comes out of
Starting point is 01:12:50 marxism and then eventually maoism came out of that because um the problem that lenin realized and trotsky early on was that the workers just weren't revolting against the government the way that that marx had intended for them to do with historic progression. And so they, they, you know, the realization that Lenin had was that Marx missed something that you need this revolutionary vanguard that can lead them through. And I'm actually reading about halfway done. Piotr Rangel's always with honor. Now, he was the leader of the White Army in the Russian Civil War. So my background's more in China, Chinese Civil War, Cultural Revolution. But I said, you know what? Russia is actually where it happened first.
Starting point is 01:13:31 And so Mystery Grove Publishing is doing their book. They're bringing, it's actually his autobiography, his memoirs that have come forward. And it's amazing, number one, because he's a great writer. It's just, he's really good at writing, you know, giving a narrative. But also he explains that the Bolsheviks of their time, it was exactly the same as what we're living through now. So exactly the same. Yeah, I want to add something people might not know.
Starting point is 01:13:58 Workers' rule sounds great, the proletarian rule. But if you grew up in China like I did, when you actually are a worker's family, you have least amount of food rationing coupons, you live in primitive conditions, and you always look down on. I have illiterate working parents. I
Starting point is 01:14:18 grew up in that neighborhood. Everybody looked down on me because I am a daughter of illiterate worker's parents. We were starving. And then later, you know, once communist take over, Everybody looked down on me Because I'm a daughter of Inliterate workers parents And we're starving And then later Once communists take over The workers cannot unionize
Starting point is 01:14:31 There's no independent unions in China Because you have to have a communist party committee To supervise your workers organizations So you lose your Actually workers rights So people cannot buy into that Yeah you go But I wanted to ask Lily a question so you lose your actual workers' rights. So people cannot buy into that. Yeah, you go, but I wanted to ask Lily a question in a moment.
Starting point is 01:14:50 There's a viral video on Reddit right now because on Reddit, a whole bunch of leftist extremist forums are becoming increasingly popular, like late-stage capitalism, anti-work, work reform. They're overtly communist, but there's a video going viral of a guy explaining how capitalism is modern slavery. And it's one of the most, I don't know if this guy, he's got a podcast where he talks about capitalism being evil. I don't know if he's just an evil guy who's lying to seize power. He wants to convince people to
Starting point is 01:15:15 support a cult ideology or if he's just really dumb. But he said, he's like, in capitalism, you will never be paid what you're worth. That's a myth. You have to be paid less than you produce for the employer, who is your feudal lord, who takes the excess of your labor and steals it. And I'm just like, and you can choose to quit. And then you can choose to start your own business. And then you can become a lord. Whereas in feudalism, you couldn't. Whereas in these other countries with slavery, you couldn't just leave that position. If you are basing your entire system around material goods and material wealth, then you're going to find one system or another that supports it or supports the reallocation of it in terms of socialism.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Whereas if you look at capitalism as a tool, right? So, okay, we like free enterprise, right? We want free enterprise. But that doesn't mean that the economy, the needs of the economy, the needs of the GDP should come at the, you know, should be given priority over the needs of families or over the needs of people that actually live in these communities. That's why our country has been hollowed out the way it's been because of this merger between us and the CCP that's been going on for 30 years. That's why the jobs have been shipped overseas. And there was someone on a podcast recently who was saying that it's actually a good thing that American jobs were all shipped over to China and all of the wealth was shipped over to China. And that's ridiculous because what that did was it empowered the CCP.
Starting point is 01:16:53 It funded the growth of the Chinese military through American FDI. That's where this is going. We have underwritten it. And Lily, you and I were talking earlier about how the city of Shanghai, that the area across the river Pudong has gone in 30 years from being farmland into one of the most built up financial capitals of the world. Well, guess what? To the American people, you paid for that.
Starting point is 01:17:18 You all paid for that. Yeah, I want to pull up the story. It's actually a series of tweets. The story is actually an opinion piece from jack masovic from newsweek this year's olympics will double as xi jinping's coronation this was a fantastic probably the best piece that's ever been written in news i think i do like how you you referenced your own article with wow it was pretty good it was an okay piece so i i tweeted out the yeah the excerpts from the article, but I cut it so that you couldn't see my name.
Starting point is 01:17:49 And I just wrote, wow. So check this out. This is a guy. I believe he's from the Southern Poverty Law Center, right? Yes. He said – Highly credible. Highly credible.
Starting point is 01:17:58 I want to hear what he has to say. Newsweek just published an op-ed by neo-Nazi collaborator and stop-the-steal liar Jack Posobiec. This guy is beneath OANN now. Just extremely embarrassing. Maddy Hassan then says, congrats to Newsweek opinionators Josh Hammer and Bungar Sargon for their ongoing struggle to mainstream and normalize the conspiracist far-right in this country. Now, what I just want to mention, we were talking about earlier is how they keep trying to do this smear of calling someone a Nazi, far-right in this country now what i just want to mention we were talking about earlier is how they keep trying to do this this smear of calling someone a nazi far-right or whatever
Starting point is 01:18:29 and just like here we are sitting with jack posobic who's a nice guy who talks about politics and not once have i heard him espouse anything in any way supportive of any of these groups i actually talked about and it's funny to hear meddi Hassan say that because Mehdi Hassan was a presenter for Al Jazeera for many, many years and has spoken out against, he made his bones in reporting and later at Huffington Post speaking out against Islamophobia. Well, Mehdi, if you had actually taken the time to read the words that I wrote in Newsweek, there's actually a whole section in there about the concentration camps of Uyghur Muslims in Xinjiang. That may be something where we could actually agree on. So there's two points here. There was around, I wanted to bring this up. I mean, for one, you're here so we can talk about it. Hi.
Starting point is 01:19:12 Calling you these names like a neo-Nazi collaborator. It's just, I don't believe any regular person, any, you know, you go knock on a random door and you shout it to them. They're going to go, oh, shut up. Like, I just don't believe these people anymore. You go to a local house of a guy who's not in politics and he's going to read that and be like, I don't believe it. You look at Mehdi Hassan who's now pushing the same narrative, but like you said, he didn't even read what you wrote. It's the same thing with the Joe Rogan story.
Starting point is 01:19:38 I love the meme going around where it's like, Joe Rogan spreading misinformation. Oh, really? What did he say? Nobody knows. See, that? What did he say? Nobody knows. See, that's how dangerous it is. It's the silence, dissident voices, mouse culture revolution.
Starting point is 01:19:55 You cannot even talk to your family about anything because what if your family member report to the local Red Guards? Then they could go to struggle sessions. So I had to self-censor. When I started to ask questions, I only asked myself inside of my own head. I could not say anything. Tim, do me a favor. You're on Mediasan's page right there. Do you see over to the right where it has Mediasan's bio right now? Does it say where Mediasan currently works? Yeah, he works for NBC.
Starting point is 01:20:21 So he works for NBC and he has a show also on NBC's Peacock, which is their streaming service. Now, I did a little digging on this, really, really deep digging. It took me seconds of time to search this up. NBC signed an $8 billion contract with the Internationalic committee to be their exclusive host for the olympics all the way through 2032 and then the exclusive streaming service of the olympics is and it's so strange peacock tv the exact same place where mediasan has his streaming service so it's so strange to me that such a coincidence that they would send this guy out with a billion reasons to come out and be. It's like they used to actually have front groups for this sort of thing.
Starting point is 01:21:13 Now they're just doing it in the open. It's like try harder, guys. Come on. I just saw this story. And like I mentioned, the trying to smear you, the not even reading the article, the Joe Rogan spreads lies, but we don't actually listen to his show anyway and i'm just like i don't think they're i think i think they've lost i think they've outright lost well this is what the establishment media yes yeah so so that's the other thing i want to bring up michael malice responded to maddie hassan saying impotence signaling is much funnier than virtue signaling they've lost monopoly control over the mic and
Starting point is 01:21:43 don't know what to do except sneer virtue signal of course being like look at me so virtuous i condemn that too but now they're just going like we can't do anything about this so we're losers people are listening to joe rogan and they're not jack posobic is getting written up in newsweek what do we do well and and and just to to mike i you know i appreciate So why would they call me them sitting next to Jack? No, exactly. You're a collaborator, I guess. You're now a collaborator. We're all collaborators now.
Starting point is 01:22:10 We talked about this the other day. There are four Nazis. We're all post-collaborators. No, no, look. We talked about it yesterday. There are four postos. There's a tweet that's going viral where a guy says, in Germany, we have a saying. If there's a neo-Nazi sitting at a table and 10 people at the table talking to him, you have 11 Nazis.
Starting point is 01:22:26 And that is a psychotic worldview. But it proves to the left, politics can only flow in one direction. If you take an Antifa guy, sit him at a table, and you take Jack Posobiec and sit him at the same table and they're talking, the left will look at it and say, too far right individuals. Even though the one guy's clearly got an Antifa flag and wearing a mask and everything, they don't care. We have a picture of, you know, the two far right Antifa guys. So that's what they want to do. They want to shut down any kind of discussions, conversations by name calling. Well, Lily, let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 01:23:05 When Chairman Mao launched his anti-rightist campaign, what was every person who spoke out, if you spoke out against the Great Leap Forward and you said, hey, there's millions of people who are dying of famine in the countryside, what were you labeled? Well, you will lose your job. You will get locked up. That's why the people don't understand when you say CCP dictatorship means
Starting point is 01:23:22 all the leaders in China are not elected by people. They are appointed by the upper nine Communist Party officials. So they naturally want to cover it up. So when people die of starvation during the Great Leap Forward in the 50s, estimate 50 million people died. But they don't want to report that to the central government because local government officials can lose their jobs. They're trying to cover up same thing with COVID, same thing with SARS,
Starting point is 01:23:49 same thing with flooding. So it's very dangerous. Here's one thing I want to tell you. Because of your good work and our discussion, somebody texted me, they just donated and they live in New Hampshire. Oh, cool. We're getting messages from people saying they're donating to your campaign.
Starting point is 01:24:04 Oh, great. Thank you very much. You got really angry about the gun rights thing and mentioned having the ar-15 everybody was cheering so you would be right so they would so the officially and they would and they would conduct the struggle sessions and it would be around your neck you would be labeled a right-wing extremist for saying there were people dying and can of famine and committing even in some cases cannibalism in the countryside just so they could survive remember this this raid guard like a raid guard do this drug sessions did you say this 2020 salute yeah 2020 i've seen college students in america marched on the street doing the red salute yeah well so lily speaking of college students and these types of people one question i I want to ask you, Lily, is prior to the Maoist revolution,
Starting point is 01:24:48 did you know people who were leftists or communists, or was it just a very well-organized small minority that ended up infiltrating and taking over? Were the people calling for this, or how did this happen? Well, of course, I had no idea. I was born into the Maoist culture. I was two years old to 12 years old. I was totally indoctrinated. I had no idea.
Starting point is 01:25:11 We were just told that the Taiwan people are starving to death and lots of people are living in hell. We need to go liberate them and we need to be grateful for the party, for Chiang Mai Mao. Because I still had a little bit brain, right? I said, but we're starving now. It's like, how could we work off? They were right. I mean, to us. But
Starting point is 01:25:31 it doesn't matter. You self-censor, you don't ask questions. I never challenged anything in my life until I was 12 years old when Mao died. It's like, oh my God died because we chanted every day, Long Live Chiang Mai Mao. 10,000 years, double 10,000, my God died. Because the way he chanted every day, long live Chiang Mai Mao, 10,000 years, double 10,000 years until he died.
Starting point is 01:25:49 It's like, oh, you know, who lied to me? That's what I was wondering. I was whispering to myself. And I decided to go to college, study law, so I can change China, maybe search for truth. But by the time I went to law school, and then they told me, no, no, no, law is not for justice. Law is a tool used by
Starting point is 01:26:08 the party to govern its masses. Super union model. I got lost again. Really, I had lots of very depressive, totally so lost moments in my life until I came to this country. You were telling us last time you were here that you had to lie to try
Starting point is 01:26:24 and get out of the country and pretend that you lied and claimed you would come back. Yeah, everything has to be PC because you need the permission of the party to quit your job. Otherwise, you pay money back. You need the permission to go get a passport. So that's why I call myself a straight red because I had to survive. If I want to come to the United States for my freedom, I had to say whatever PC. Oh, I'm going to get a college master's degree
Starting point is 01:26:50 here in the U.S. to serve my country better on my own time, on my own time. I will come back to serve my country. Okay, sign the agreement. The agreement is I must promise to go back to China after my master's degree. Okay? All two consequences will kick you out
Starting point is 01:27:06 of the party because you know, I was forced to join party in order to teach in law school as a faculty member. You must have the party membership. Otherwise, they don't trust you. Where's your loyalty? You got to be loyal to the party. So I don't care about that. Okay, you can
Starting point is 01:27:21 kick me out. I was on probation status anyway. First year, I hate it because I just could care about that. Okay, you can kick me out. I was on probation status anyway. First year, I hate it because I just could not believe anymore. Then next one's very hard. They kick you a personnel file to your hometown, which is Chengdu, Sichuan, because if you live, work in Shanghai, you must have your personnel file to go with your job,
Starting point is 01:27:40 but if you don't go back on time, they kick your file back to Chengdu. So that means there's no hope I can go back to Shanghai and live there as a legal resident, have a benefit because that ties to your benefits. So I guess Tiananmen Square that the political asylum status kind of, you know, give to every Chinese
Starting point is 01:27:58 student. So I was okay later to go back to China. But I had to cancel my trip 2019 because I was threatened. How dare you speak bad about your motherland in the United States, two students. So I said, I'm teaching the Jews. No, you're a traitor.
Starting point is 01:28:14 So I was threatened. When was the last time you were home? 2015. I missed my home. My family, my extended relative, one brother, three uncles, one aunt, and cousins. I met some people who traveled through North Korea, and they told me that if there is like a small town or village,
Starting point is 01:28:33 and they have a cow, and the cow dies, they can't touch it. They have to call the local military officer who was appointed to come and take the cow to be distributed evenly among the country for everybody. If you take it to eat because you're starving, they put you in the work camps. Or they outright kill you and execute your family. So it's just, you know... You don't know every day, every minute
Starting point is 01:28:56 you could be breaking the law. That's how bad... When you talk about oppressive regime, it's just that people have no rights. You are treated like some animals without human dignity. Everything you say, everything you do, you are criminal. I'd hate to see Americans becoming like that. There are so many laws.
Starting point is 01:29:14 You don't know which day you will be breaking the laws. You mean like if somebody was holding the door open for you at the U.S. Capitol and you walked inside unbeknownst because you thought that you were just at a protest and now suddenly you're put in a gulag. If the police opened the door for you and said on camera, I don't agree with it, but I respect your right to protest. Waving you in. And now those people are. Yep. Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:29:38 Yeah, that's where we're at. It's insane. Well, maybe Trump will get reelected and pardon a bunch of people or something, but I don't think they're getting that long of prison sentences anyway. Trump should really do something right now for the people that are behind bars, right? And if he could do something, set up a legal fund, set up a way, just – he can't tweet anymore, but he could post it through his press release. Do something for the people now. Show people that you're still in the fight.
Starting point is 01:30:03 If you want people to know that you're serious do something for the people because guess what they don't have the ability they don't have the luxury of waiting until 2025 they're behind bars right now why can't why can't they have a every citizen supposed to have their speed in trial you cannot hold people this long there are supposed to be no political prisoners in a free country. It's like, why are the people still locked up without the trials? You know, we need to do something and question it to say, hey, we need to advocate. You know, they should have a speedy trial and you should have a jury.
Starting point is 01:30:40 And then you should have all the means. Like, it's become so political now. So you can get bail bail out if you're violent criminals and burn stuff and looting property. Somebody will raise $23 million for you to get out. You come out, you commit another crime, you kill more people. But those people, January 6th, you know, they're still in the jail. Lily, and I think the exact reason for that is because, unfortunately, most Americans don't value the principles upon which this nation was founded as much as you do as a citizen and i think the ones who do value it are too complacent to actually do anything about it so they bought into the media rhetorics and have you i think many
Starting point is 01:31:20 of them the thing is i think many people haven't bought into the media rhetoric but it happened a while ago they're not thinking about it. It wasn't me. It wasn't my family. It wasn't anyone I care about. So I'm just going to forget it happened. Just like the people say in Nazi Germany, by the time they came for me, there's nobody left to defend me. That's how you lose a country so fast.
Starting point is 01:31:38 Solzhenitsyn wrote about that. He said a lot of the people who, when they were brought away by the guards, they would be told, they would say, oh, well, they were asked to come. They say, well, I'll just go down because this is a big mistake. And I know I didn't do anything wrong. So I'll go down and explain things. And they never came home. But we were talking about fundraising a second ago. And I don't know if you guys have seen the story that Andrew Kerr, I believe he's the
Starting point is 01:31:58 Washington Examiner now, has been reporting about BLM and the donations of BLM and the fact that they walked out of 2020 with $60 million in the bank. And we remember that in the wake of the George Floyd video going viral, there were companies just throwing, literally throwing money at BLM. But Andrew Kerr is actually doing the work now. And I think he even went to their registered address in Los Angeles and is trying to figure out, hey, so who's in charge of the money, right? Who's in charge of like, who are the actual fiduciary stakeholders here? Who is responsible for the $60 million?
Starting point is 01:32:36 He can't, because we saw people, Patrice Cullors and others have resigned from BLM. So who's actually in charge of the money? He can't find anyone who's in charge of this. Didn't he say the address wasn't even legit? Like he went there and there was nothing there. Right. And the guy said, they've never been here. And then they said, well, hold on. But we appointed two people to serve as the new runners, the new chairman of BLM. But then he went and interviewed those people and they said, oh yeah, they appointed us, but we never accepted.
Starting point is 01:33:03 Wow. So we never accepted the appointment. So that's fraud. That's $60 million of fraud right there. And so if that's all true, and he's, by the way, he's saying that I think, I think the state AG is actually opening up an investigation into this because that's straight up nonprofit fraud, if that's what's going on. All right. We got to go to super chats. So ladies and gentlemen, if you haven't already, smash the honk button. Honk the like button. One like equals one honk.
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Starting point is 01:33:39 over at TimCast.com. Don't forget to share the show with your friends. Subscribe. Let's read some of these Super Chats. All right. Little Bear says, would you kindly make Trucker Hat merch with the honking on it or something else cool? I wonder if Luke has listened to this and has already started making that as soon as he saw the super chat. Yeah, we could. We recently made a new shirt. It says
Starting point is 01:33:59 join the cult. It says join the city urban liberal types and then spell down. It says join the cult. It says join the city urban liberal types. And then spelled down, it says join the cult. And then it's our version of the meme where the guys are like, you know, soy-mouthing and pointing behind them, and the city's on fire and being destroyed by Godzilla and aliens. Oh, my gosh. Make America honk again? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:34:17 You got those hats. Make speech free again? What other place? Make America honk again? Yeah, honk. I love it. Somebody is already making that hat right now and selling it, and they make a million i saw a lot of people doing like the um like the canadian goose right you know yeah yeah that's like yeah i saw that i saw the gadsden flag of
Starting point is 01:34:33 it and said please leave me alone please yes i saw someone someone tweeted um uh the reason canadians are so nice is because they store all of their hate in their geese. All right, let's grab some more. So I think this bears repeating. Just someone asked about it. The Moen says, Lily Tang is a congressional candidate. What is your position on the Second Amendment,
Starting point is 01:34:56 types of firearms that people can have access to, and self-defense? Now, I know we did talk about it already, but would you be in favor of Americans owning rocket launchers? Rocket launchers? Yeah. You know that I saw that some people do have that, do they? I don't know. I'm in favor of Americans owning rocket launchers.
Starting point is 01:35:12 Well, you know, whatever government soldiers have, do you think that they can have everything? I personally do. Yeah. I think the Constitution says the right to keep and bear arms. And although it's probably fair to say the founding fathers didn't expect scud missiles or whatever. Well, did not have the technology back then. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:33 But they did have cannons. And they did have – And machine guns. And they had multi-barrel guns that could simulate full auto. So my issue is if a private citizen could own a frigate with a massive cannon volley system or whatever with great shot and all that modern technology, all the modern machines, arms that only talk about guns. But what if someday the guns are no longer very effective and useful to protect your life, property, and liberty? What do you do? We have to evolve too. That's a really good point.
Starting point is 01:36:20 Yes. Arms. What does arms mean? Yeah, what arms mean? What if we're using lightsabers and blasters? Is the government going to be like, the Second Amendment doesn't cover blasters and lightsabers? Well, I think that we have a constitutional right
Starting point is 01:36:33 to use whatever we can to defend our family and the liberty and property. And we were involved with technology. And just like the government troops will, so what's wrong with that? Otherwise, we're not effective to defend ourselves anymore. If guns are not effective, you know? I think American citizens should be allowed to have nuclear arms.
Starting point is 01:36:52 Nuclear weapons. Well, calm down, Tim. I don't know if I go that far. Why not? Nukes? You actually want citizens to own nukes? Does the Constitution say... I thought you were trolling. Does the Constitution say the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed? Unless, of course.
Starting point is 01:37:07 It's a nuclear bomb. It's a nuclear arm. That's true. One of the biggest ones. My point is more so if you want to restrict the rights of American citizens to have the same weapons that governments have, you need to amend the constitution. Well, the other thing that I love that the constitution doesn't say is, by the way, special asterisks that we found, I guess Nicolas Cage could find it at the bottom of the, of the bill of rights. The original bill of rights.
Starting point is 01:37:34 I found the original bill of rights. Oh my gosh. It says that during a time of pandemic, all of this stuff is just, it's just suspended. It's like they had pandemics of course they did there were there were smallpox way worse i love way way worse during the time of the revolution and they didn't write anything about that i love the i think it's what patrick henry meme where he's like give me liberty or give me death unless of course there is a pandemic
Starting point is 01:37:59 in which case no follow the guidance of the medical czar. No, look, look. I'm sure a lot of people, their immediate reaction is like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Regular citizens shouldn't have nukes. And corrupt crony politicians should? No, they shouldn't either. Well, right. So the point is, at what point did we just become a civilization, a society that says only the ultimate ultra-powered authoritarians are allowed to wield the most powerful weapons?
Starting point is 01:38:30 The point of the Second Amendment was to secure a free state, the people need to bear arms. It didn't say accept cannons and accept large warships. No, no, no. It said arms. And private citizens had warships. Yes, they did. I mean nuclear power generators are run by private companies. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:46 Like Westinghouse is a private company. But does any private company, like could you imagine if Bezos started building nuclear bombs? I know. They're like, well, if the truckers don't want to comply, guess what we're going to do. You think he won't in space? I got to be honest. I'm pretty sure the nuclear weapons are actually built by private companies. Right?
Starting point is 01:39:00 Did one of the founderers say something like this Like if people Are afraid of government it's tyranny But if government is afraid of People it's liberty Actually let me just clarify that past point I mean Raytheon, Halliburton Lockheed, Boeing These are private companies
Starting point is 01:39:18 But are they really? This kind of gets into what you were saying earlier about Xinhua In China that essentially they are a government-run enterprise. I mean, I don't think you can realistically look at a company like Boeing and say that they're not a state-related enterprise. Yeah. All right, let's read some more Super Chats. We got Recra Morrison says, a few friendly facts of Canada. Alberta is where USA gets a lot of your resources.
Starting point is 01:39:42 That's why they're protesting there for your information. Also, Canada only has 70,000 military, 100,000 police, and 2 million gun owners. So are you saying that we're actually at a point now where there may be more truckers protesting than there are? Yeah. Wow. That's amazing. Man. All right.
Starting point is 01:39:59 Justin Bookman says, hello, Tim and company. As a truck driver, the fact that Trudeau cowers in fear of facing the consequences that he started. George Strait said it best. This country turns on 18 wheels. Thank God we can depend, brothers of the highway, children of the wind. Breaker, breaker. It's crazy, man. Could you imagine what these hipster city urban liberal types would be doing if the truckers stopped delivering avocados to them? Well, this is what they always talk about when people say, if we go into a post-apocalyptic
Starting point is 01:40:31 scenario, that the cities won't be able to feed themselves. Well, of course they won't be able to feed themselves because they're fed through trucks right now, right? If you are eating, it came from a farm. If you are eating in a city, came on a truck right so the minute that this goes away that the cities where do they get their food oh yeah let's read some more super jets i was preoccupied for a moment all right let's see kevin bill says the star trek parody episode of black mirror is the best one love you guys and wish you all the best hong kong good luck
Starting point is 01:41:01 lily the star trek parody episode of black mirror it's the one this is all the best. Honk, honk. Good luck, Lily. The Star Trek parody episode of Black Mirror? It's the one this is all the most like. No, that was, I think it was like season four. Star Trek parody episode? It's where that, I think he like takes their DNA and traps them
Starting point is 01:41:12 in a Star Trek simulation. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Which one? Oh, that's right. The episode of Black Mirror that is parodying Star Trek. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:22 And he gets trapped in his own little metaverse. Yeah, yeah. All right, let gets trapped in his own little metaverse. Yeah, yeah. All right, let's see. Anthony Barron says, earlier, Tim, you talked about that people think all Asians are Chinese when referring to the Whoopi story. Made me think of King of the Hill where Khan moves next door.
Starting point is 01:41:36 Are you Chinese or Japanese? So Whoopi Goldberg, you know, we'll talk about that one. Members only, for sure. Yeah. But when she said that the Holocaust wasn't about race, Seamus brought this up. He was like, that's like saying the rape of Nanking was not about race at all because they're all Asian.
Starting point is 01:41:53 Yeah, exactly. Because she said it was white people killing white people. And so my thought was that's like saying the rape of Nanking was just Asians killing Asians. That's a ridiculously offensive thing to say. One of the most racist things she could have said. But it also shows you how – They all look the same to me. That's like that would be a career ender for anyone who wasn't
Starting point is 01:42:07 on the left how american identity politics is essentially reductionist it's totally reductionist because if you go to any of these if you go to europe or you go to asia obviously they view it as separate races obviously oh yeah well also i mean this idea of like race and dividing people into black and white is is much more, probably between 15 and 1700s. But historically, people have always divided themselves up based on their language, culture and borders. So ethnicity has been a much more meaningful distinction for virtually all of history. And you notice that Whoopi is kind. She tries to, when she went on Colbert, she tried to say that, but it just didn't come out at all.
Starting point is 01:42:46 All right. Dubious Prime says, Lily Tang is great, and I give her the best of luck on her campaign. Thank you. Some people you should look into is a YouTube group called ADV China. They do great work on the beauty and downfalls of China. I do watch them. I know. Those guys are great.
Starting point is 01:43:01 Yeah, actually. They were the motorcycle riders in China for years and years. And they are warning people, oh, you got to leave China now. You got to leave. Evodio Tovar says, Lily Tang is my spirit animal. Oh, thank you. What kind of spirit? I'm dragon lady.
Starting point is 01:43:17 My zodiac is dragon. Even though today is the tiger year start. All right. Let's see what we got here in the super chats. Zabrusi says, they're not scared of guns. Tiger year start. All right. Let's see what we got here in the Super Chats. Zabrusi says they're not scared of guns. They're scared of survivors of communism opposing them with guns. Love it.
Starting point is 01:43:35 Wow. What a great comment. Yeah. I just watched Superman Red Son. watched um just a superman red sun it's the uh it's a comic but they made a movie of it where it's a reimagining of superman where he his ship crash lands in the soviet union and then he ends up becoming a communist it's really interesting it is they the way they the way they view it he he basically witnesses the holodomor and then goes and confronts stalin and stalin tells him in this system some people have to die so then superman goes very Stalin, and Stalin tells him, in this system, some people have to die. So then Superman goes, very wise words,
Starting point is 01:44:09 and then executes Stalin on the spot. And then he becomes the dictator who takes over. Well, Stalin meant Man of Steel. Superman is the Man of Steel, right? Is that the whole thing? But then isn't it also that Batman, they work Batman into the Holodomir as well. He's a little kid. So he's a little kid in Ukraine.
Starting point is 01:44:26 It's kind of a crazy thing for a fictional show to do. To put your cartoon characters into one of the worst genocides in human history. That being said, though, who else is actually talking about that stuff? I thought it was good. It's true. It's sad. When Stalin explains the motivation behind the Holodomir and Superman is is like yep and then kills him and takes over i'm like that's and to be fair like captain america fights the nazis and stuff right so it's but this
Starting point is 01:44:51 is a reimagining of superman's story as if he was raised in the soviet union it's actually really interesting because they have it's it came out the the graphic novel i believe came out in the 90s it's an older story definitely could not be written today if you're working for dc no way you know dc really likes to be extremely brutal like everything is very adult and very graphic and just totally brutal like i was watching titans yeah i don't want to spoil anything but let's just say like it's gory to put it mildly you look at the marvel stuff and it's very family friendly but then you know i watch the justice league stuff and we just saw the new um the new scream actually and it's extremely gory fantastic movie though really it is anti-woke um it's an excellent story they brought back the original writer
Starting point is 01:45:34 as the executive producer obviously wes craven isn't around anymore but it feels like a 90s movie it's definitely anti-woke um it is gory just the same way the original one was gory it may even be a little bit more gory than the original scream but um it's even something where because like tanya had never seen the scream movies before my wife um and because born soviet union and uh she watched this one and they explained enough of the original that you like you don't need to have watched any of the regular ones before you see this all right let's read this when we got we got to Danibus. He says, the media today would not report on Tiananmen Square.
Starting point is 01:46:08 It's appalling. No, I think it's worse than that. I think if Tiananmen Square happened today, they would report on it. Oh, yeah. It's obvious. Right-wing extremists. Domestic terrorists. A group of domestic terrorists, far right, were trying to – an insurrection.
Starting point is 01:46:22 The Hong Kong protests. Remember that? Yeah. Somebody would show up with like one flag and they would say, oh, look at the sky with the flag of the Qing Dynasty. They go, look, this Chinese man has a Confederate flag. The Chinese, yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:46:34 Did they ever show on MSABC Chinese students were holding American flag and the sign says, we want the Second Amendment right here. Yeah. I don't know if they show that or not, but I have the picture. Good for them.
Starting point is 01:46:48 All right, Ridiculous. Envy of the world. A very, very important super chat. Ridiculous says, Hong Kong. I love it. Thank you. Hong Kong. Yes, Hong Kong.
Starting point is 01:46:57 Free Hong Kong. That wasn't ridiculous at all. Free Hong Kong. Oh, my God. Free Hong Kong. Free Hong Kong. That's our shirt. Free Hong Kong.
Starting point is 01:47:03 I love that. That's actually a really good one. Free honk, honk. But then do the flag of honk, honk. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, there we go. All right. Free honk, honk.
Starting point is 01:47:12 If our merch crew is listening, there you go. There's another shirt I do. All right. Lost Valley says, I finally unsubscribed from Philip DeFranco after 12 years because I couldn't stand the leftist elitist talking points he spouts every day. What happened to these people? Philip DeFranco is the guy who hosted Gary Johnson in like 2012 or whatever on YouTube. Now it's just all generic narrative establishment.
Starting point is 01:47:37 I never followed him too closely. I don't just mean him. I'm a big Philip DeFranco fan. I don't mean to just single him out. I don't know a lot of these YouTubers. But just people in general where's neil young who's mr i'm a working man standing up for the trucker he's canadian actually i i heard that he was like deeply homophobic is that true well there was a comment that rolling stone
Starting point is 01:47:56 apparently reported back in the 80s when aids was coming out where and they reported that neil young said something that i probably can't even repeat a little bit while we're on this it was we can talk about it brutally like it was like we'll talk about it the next hour but it is bad i've heard some bad stuff but if this quote is real i was like man this is like that's a brutal thing yes like it was which and i'll give neil young the benefit of the doubt because this is rolling stone and I do not believe anything that is just printed in mainstream media. I just don't believe it. And it's a shocking comment because it's like you could disparage a group of people,
Starting point is 01:48:34 but he went far. I don't know, man. I guess people change over time. It's true. It's true, man. Some people grow apart too after they've been married for 30 years. So I guess people change. True.
Starting point is 01:48:47 Yeah. All right. Let's read some more Super Chats. We got a – let's see what we got here. Jerry McKinty watched Dr. Jay Peterson's Canadian constitutional crisis. Brian Peckford, the last living premier who wrote the Canadian Charter of Rights in 1982, is suing the government for violating every Canadian's rights. Very interesting. Erica Lee says, I'm not ready to lose DeSantis as governor right now. We need him where he is. The political climate in the state is way too tenuous at the moment.
Starting point is 01:49:18 Yeah, can I make a quick point about this? Because we were talking about DeSantis' potential ambitions for, you know, becoming president of the United States. And there's a really important question to ask here. Where is he more valuable? I think if you were to ask the question, is it better to have a really good, solid president like him or 50 really good, solid governors? I think anyone would say 50 good, solid governors. And it's a question of like, all right, well, what if it's 25? What if it's 10? I think ultimately Florida needs him really badly right now, and I think he's a fantastic example for other people who want to be effective
Starting point is 01:49:46 and popular as political leaders to look to and emulate in their own state. The DeSantis model clearly is the winning model. Exactly. All right, David says, F that. Here's 50 for Lilly's big ball energy. And I don't mean big ball in the TikTok way. Yeah, a lot of people have been chatting that they've been donating to your website. What's your website again?
Starting point is 01:50:05 It's LillytongueWilliams.com. There you go. Then you can click on Lillytongue for Congress. I have a YouTube video there, two minutes, announcement video, why I'm running, and keep the American dream alive. The spot says, if she doesn't win, I don't know who should. More American than most Americans. Agreed. Isn't that crazy?
Starting point is 01:50:24 I don't give you the pitch right now for for for the league for congress imagine her giving speeches like this from the floor of the house of representatives and then every single news they and by the way like the stuff they do to like lauren bobert and MTG and others, they will go after you like crazy. They'll find some tweet you liked or something and they will go nuts because as you said before, you represent a huge problem for their agenda. They'll say she talked to you, Jack.
Starting point is 01:50:56 They'll say she talked to me, right? They'll say she talked to us. A known associate of the Nazi collaboration. Misinformation podcast. It's okay. I have a very thick skin because for freedom, liberty, which is my
Starting point is 01:51:11 North Star, there's nothing else that I'm not willing to do. I'm waiting to die for this country. So whenever they attack on me, don't want to have a conversation with me. I always will smile and have a conversation. But if they just call me bad names, I think I only make them look like Nazis.
Starting point is 01:51:29 You know what I was saying about a lot of these people who are coming up from the southern border? I have infinitely more respect for the people trying to enter the country illegally through the southern border because they love this country more than many of the people who live here. Granted, they'd be better off entering legally. I don't respect the fact that they would disrespect the country by breaking its border. But there's something still within those people where they're like, they look at the American flag and they dream
Starting point is 01:51:54 of being there because of opportunity. But I don't understand. This country is so racist and backwards and sexist. Why would anyone want to come to such a place like that? Systemic. This is what I'm saying. Imagine if, you know, when we open our doors to immigration through a legal process, we'd be bringing in all the people who really, really want to be here and love this place. But the problem is the people who are here who hate this place are making it worse, making it more like the communist, you know. Are you suggesting a trade?
Starting point is 01:52:21 That's what I'm saying. I haven't trade places. Anyway, the meeting's been made. But, you know, the weird thing is that these people don't want to leave. They hate America, but they won't leave. Have you ever seen somebody from America
Starting point is 01:52:32 want to escape and cut a barbed wire to go to another side? Actually, they do go to Canada. There are a lot of Americans who sneak into Canada, for real. So they're usually low-income younger people, and they try to get into Canada thinking they'll get free health care or something. Usually it doesn't work out.
Starting point is 01:52:51 I think Canada has an actual immigration system, so it doesn't work out the way they think it will. So I think Luke actually went up to the border where people were crossing over. There's no real defense for Canada. Here's the thing, though. You need a vaccine passport, do they now? Yeah, you do. I don't think they just give immigrants health care.
Starting point is 01:53:10 Yeah, that's my point. That's the essential issue. You can have immigration or you can have a welfare state, but you can't have both. You cannot have open borders and a welfare state. Legal immigration is a way,
Starting point is 01:53:26 and I'm a pro-immigration, but I'm pro-legal immigration because American people have some kind of say, you know, what kind of people they want to come here, and they want security too. But here's something also crazy about legal immigration. Let's say, example, my brother, I petitioned for him to come to this
Starting point is 01:53:46 country. After I become citizen, he waited 13 years. If I was a Mexican, he would wait for 19 years. That's why you get people incentive to come from southern border when it's wide open, because who has lifetime to wait for the
Starting point is 01:54:02 legal immigration opportunity? And it's a vicious cycle because part of the reason it takes so long for people like you who want to go through the system and the legal process to get here, part of the reason it takes you so long is because of all the people skipping in line and coming into the country without permission. Right, that's not fair at all because
Starting point is 01:54:17 I think we need to really have a good conversation about immigration but right now without secure border it's chaotic. And it's national security threat. And you give incentive to the human traffickers and drug dealers, could be even the terrorist
Starting point is 01:54:34 slicking from southern border. Any conversation on immigration, the opening bid has to be the borders need to be you need to have control of the borders first, period. Then we can have a conversation about what to do afterwards.
Starting point is 01:54:47 Amen. Let's read some more Super Chats. We got Diane Prokop says, would be so grateful for a shout out of my children's book on friendship, Lunar New Year, and the endangered Chinese river dolphin. It's titled The Bajie. Michael Malice knows about the dolphins. Does he?
Starting point is 01:55:03 That's true. The dolphin, the dolphin, it is, um, it, in some cases has been eaten a lot. The river dolphins in China. Um,
Starting point is 01:55:11 uh, you can barely find them anymore. Wow. Yeah. All right. Not Bob Saget says, Tim, have you heard of Portland? Andy,
Starting point is 01:55:18 he has been on top of the convoy the entire time. Some of the best coverage you can find. Shout out to all the hot dog warriors out there with the ones. And does it say O's fjb all right i've been hearing a lot about portland andy i'm not familiar but not any no i don't know i don't think so he's from he's from portland he's not but that's not portland andy is not andy no i think portland is a different streamer okay oh okay okay yeah cool right on all right let's see what we got lacy ferguson says i'm starting to feel like we've been cast in the remake of red dawn and it's being directed by quentin tarantino maybe i don't know though all right let's see we got
Starting point is 01:56:00 we get a man amelius who's the daughter of the original director oh there you go the care of bear says true north rebel spencer fernando western standard news for canadians uh maxine bernier uh bermier bernier is it burn is our only hope love from calgary and then someone said marcus said tim Tim Poole for president. Never. If like all the people rose up one day and they were like, no, we really do mean it. Tim be president. I'd be like, give me one minute. I just got to, I got to go get a pack of smokes. And then there were gone.
Starting point is 01:56:39 There were actually like instances in church history of a group of people rising up and deciding that like one person should be their bishop. And he's like, I don't want to. Well, guess what? That's why you have to. Yeah, exactly. No, it's true. But it's also like it sounds noble. Like the people are like, yes, you're our leader.
Starting point is 01:56:50 It could also be kind of like, I'm not doing it. You do it. Yeah, yeah. That's also true. Or the cardinalship too as well. There's one specific example. I can't remember the exact one, but yeah. There's one recently in the 1980s in Poland where they wanted this guy who was sort of
Starting point is 01:57:02 mediating between the Solidarity Union and the communists and he's like, look and one of the leaders had actually met with John Paul II and said, hey, my local bishop should be a cardinal and John Paul II just starts laughing. The one I'm thinking of, and I wish I could remember the name,
Starting point is 01:57:19 but the guy was not even a priest at the time. And they're like, we need him to be our bishop and they ordained him and made him the bishop. We got a couple here. Sandra Nade And they're like, we need him to be our bishop. And they ordained him and made him the bishop. Based. All right. We got a couple here. Sandra Nadeau says, dear, we truckers have always known the importance of what we do. This hasn't made us realize that.
Starting point is 01:57:34 It's made you realize it. Ooh. Yeah, but the fact that the truckers show restraint and not shutting everything down whenever they don't get their way is like, I think Seamus used that. It's indicative of their moral character. Yeah, no, no. My point was ask for more, truckers. Seize the moment. Take Vienna.
Starting point is 01:57:50 When you set out to take Vienna, take Vienna. Go for broke right now. This is literally your moment. So any kind of bargaining or contractual agreements you have right now, it's the dead of winter. Supply chains are already creaking. Just go for broke. Do it.
Starting point is 01:58:05 Alright. TbagginElite says, oil field trucker here. Those Canadian boys are awesome and deserve respect. I listen to this show daily and I get to make great money. No college debt and I make more than most of my friends that went to college. Love it. And then he posted a bunch of duck emojis.
Starting point is 01:58:22 Why? But I appreciate them. Hong Kong. This is part of why I made the point of duck emojis. Why? But I appreciate them. Hong Kong. Oh, Hong Kong. Yeah, Hong Kong. This is part of why I made the point. There you go. My goodness. That was you. That was actually me.
Starting point is 01:58:32 That was me? You can't blame that on me. I know. All right. Part of why I love it, though, and part of why I mentioned the fact that truckers don't generally go to college is because I trust them so much so much more as a group i know i really do like if you're going to talk about one group of people to have strong political power within their profession it's like yeah truckers well this is why biden and every politician that shuts down fracking
Starting point is 01:58:59 it's a direct assault on truckers because i remember this coming from pennsylvania you know talking to people from that northern tier or the Western part where the Marcella shale was found that it, I remember sitting with a trucker once and he was telling me that like, he said, I can make as much as I do now hauling in one day in my local, just, just area where I can take my kids to school in the morning. and now I can be home with them in the evening and I can make as much as I do now thanks to fracking, then I used to be on the road for a week doing this. And so that's why fracking is actually such a huge issue
Starting point is 01:59:36 for those parts of Pennsylvania, for Ohio. It would be huge in New York because New York State has the Marcellus Shale underneath it, but no governor is allowing the development of this. That's why the trucking industry, and then you get the secondary and tertiary benefits of that through it. The same deal if we were able to open up Alaska more, I was just up at the Northern shelf there, et cetera, et cetera, right? You get actual economic benefit. I don't want to invade Afghanistan or the Middle East. I want to
Starting point is 02:00:02 invade the United States. Yeah. Invade Alaska. Get the oil from the United States. Elliot says, I am a proud POSO collaborator. Boom. Let's do it. So Bill Hughes actually has a really good point about Whoopi Goldberg. He says, so Whoopi, there wasn't a genocide in Rwanda? Uh-oh.
Starting point is 02:00:21 Uh-oh. Whoopi. Answer that, Whoopi. I think we should talk about the Whoopi Goldberg thing for the member segment because it's going to get real spicy talking about World War II. She's suspended from The View. She is. Oh, really? Oh. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 02:00:33 So it was a career ender. She'll be back. Wow. Throwing it down right now, she'll be back. I don't think Roseanne shouldn't have lost her job and Whoopi Goldberg shouldn't have lost her job. People are allowed to have dumb opinions. She's suspended. Yeah, she might be back. Yeah, I know lost her job. People are allowed to have dumb opinions. She's offended. Yeah, she might be back.
Starting point is 02:00:46 Yeah, I know. I know. I'm just – So The View is ABC, right? Well, as a viewer of The View, this really breaks my heart. I love seeing her every single day. No! Have you guys ever seen the Family Guy joke about The View? They're all just clucking, and they're balking.
Starting point is 02:00:59 And then all of a sudden, one of the women goes, and stands up, and there's an egg. And then the camera zooms in on the egg while they're all balking. I just thought it was a really well done joke. They would never do that joke again, though. It's just the women, the people going, bark, bark, bark, bark, bark, bark, bark, bark, bark, bark, bark, bark. And then they're surprised they laid an egg and they're all bucking louder and yelling about it. All right, everybody. Smash that honk button.
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Starting point is 02:02:35 I love I have no place to go So I don't know about you guys Where would you go If we lose this country? I don't want to go anywhere I want to stay here Yeah, stay here
Starting point is 02:02:42 I've been to a lot of countries And America is the best by far So we need to stay here. Yeah, stay here. I've been to a lot of countries and America is the best by far. So we need to stay here and fight. We have to have a face in our system, in America, people. So let's... You like it? Yes. Right on. Jack Posobiec, you guys know where to follow me.
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Starting point is 02:03:21 on Tuesday or other days of the week as well. If you want to check that out. And also, I just want to... Lily, we have a lot of great guests on here, but honestly, you are really a great American. I love the spirit that you have and how badly you want to fight for this country. So I just want to plug Lily for Congress again
Starting point is 02:03:38 to everybody watching. Thank you. Now I don't feel alone anymore like I did in China. I have all of you. It's great. I think it would be amazing to see you on the floor. Unbelievable. Imagine if every member of Congress loved America as much as you do. Can you imagine? Just a couple of them, you know?
Starting point is 02:03:55 Just a caucus. I don't even need all of them, too. Just get a couple of them in here. There is a Russian immigrant from the former Soviet Union. She's a congresswoman right now. And she wants to compare FBI what they're doing to say, are you becoming kind of like KGB? That was a great speech. Yes. CNN has it up, by the way.
Starting point is 02:04:15 Whoopi Goldberg, 9.49 p.m., has been suspended from the deal. Moment of silence. We got to talk about it. Some Fs in the chat, folks. No. No Fs in chats. Don't care about that i was gonna say uh rand paul really does care about uh the u.s because he was just at a restaurant that they
Starting point is 02:04:29 tried to shut down for the vaccine passport thing um and i did want to say lily thank you for stopping by again i'm very excited for your run i am lydia i produce a little podcast slash live stream called kim task irl and you guys can follow me on twitter at sarah patchlet's also on mine she's a bass she brought me here twice. Also, I will say, too, I meant no disrespect to Rand Paul or the few people in there who actually do care. There are some. Before I get accused of, you know, whatever, it is a two-week suspension. Oh.
Starting point is 02:04:58 It is a two-week suspension. Well, I hope she thinks about what she's done. Told you. Told you. Let's get to the nitty-gritty of everything that's going down over at TimCast.com in the member segment. So check it out. Sign up. We'll see you around 11 p.m.
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