Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #460 - Canada Threatens MILITARY Intervention Against Freedom Truckers, HONK w/Julie Kelly

Episode Date: February 3, 2022

Tim, Ian, Seamus from FreedomToons, and Lydia join journalist and author Julie Kelly to discuss Canada's threats against the "Freedom Convoy", the left's shift away from anti-fascist to pro-fascist as... they plan to protest the "Freedom Convoy", the political warfare evidenced in the January 6th prosecution, the CNN scandal currently erupting, and the reunion of Crosby, Stills, Young & Nash in an attempt to force Spotify to remove Joe Rogan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome, my friends, to this special edition of HonkCast IRL. Of course, we changed the name in solidarity with our trucker friends and protesters standing up for freedom, individual liberties. And we got big news on this one. The latest is that the Ottawa police, they want military intervention, but authorities are concerned. They're saying that these protesters may be armed. That's really fascinating because last night we talked about how the right to keep and bear arms is a deterrent from government overreach. And because of the potential for protesters being armed, the military doesn't necessarily want to come in.
Starting point is 00:00:36 But who knows? Things are getting really, really crazy. Trudeau, of course, last night once again smeared the protesters as all the worst things in the book. And it's all big lies because the reality is this is a worker revolt, a worker uprising. We're seeing a couple interesting things. There's a subreddit called Lockdown Critical Left asking why it is that this is an uprising of workers and the left opposes it. And of course, all of these people who are actual leftists are like, yo, the left has been co-opted by corporate interests. That's it. And then we have a post from the Ottawa subreddit
Starting point is 00:01:10 organizing a protest against the workers. Now they claim to be the left or whatever, but I got to tell you, the fascists, these are people protesting in support of government rule by decree, Major corporations producing products that the government then mandates on people. And these people want to support that. So yeah, fascists. We're going to talk about all that. We got CNN, man. The president of CNN is out. A huge scandal is erupting. Brian Stelter's blaming Chris Cuomo for Chris Cuomo ratting out Jeff Zucker because Jeff Zucker was sleeping with the chief marketing officer who used to work for Cuomo's brother, Andrew Cuomo. Whoa, scandal.
Starting point is 00:01:49 CNN's imploding. All right. We're going to talk about all that plus some news around January 6th. More subpoenas are coming out with the January 6th committee. And joining us to talk about all of this is journalist Julie Kelly. Do you want to introduce yourself? Hi, I'm Julie Kelly from Naperville. It's Tim.
Starting point is 00:02:04 From Naperville. So's Tim. From Naperville. So aptly fellow Chicagoan. So I am a writer for American Greatness, amgreatness.com, and for the past year have been obsessed with the events of January 6th and the DOJ's abusive investigation into January 6th, the J6 committee, and how they're using that four-hour disturbance to launch a war on terror against the political right, which is in my book.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Four-hour disturbance. Four hours. Yep. And it has become this insane narrative among Democrats. And I love how they say it's bipartisan because they have Liz Cheney, like anyone believes it's bipartisan. But it's insane what's going on.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Now they're claiming that the Republicans who signed elector slates for Trump, in the event there was a legal dispute, which has happened before, they're claiming they were forged documents and it's insurrection. They're trying to bar several members of Congress from running for re-election, claiming they're insurrectionists. This is crazy stuff. Yes, it is. That is the political war and intended to
Starting point is 00:03:09 silence political dissent and terrorize people into not protesting the regime. The resistance, hashtag the resistance, was really cool for like four years. Remember, everybody thought that was great. Then all of a sudden, it became insurrection on January 6th.
Starting point is 00:03:27 So this is what they're doing. And we have political prisoners in the United States. And we have hundreds of defendants. 730 people have been arrested so far. They're adding new people every day. And this is the DOJ's, you know, they're acting as the law enforcement arm of the Democratic Party, which they have now for the past several years. So nothing new there.
Starting point is 00:03:49 I'm going to say it, Civil War. But we'll get into detail about what that means because when you're accusing, when you're filing lawsuits to bar politicians from re-election, it's not even politics anymore. We're at the gates of something else. But we'll get into all that stuff. We've got Seamus. Seamus, Seamus Coghlan of Freedom Tunes. I'm a political cartoonist.
Starting point is 00:04:09 I like to make animations about current events. We're releasing a cartoon about the Great Honkening tomorrow. So I hope you guys check that out and enjoy it. And I'm very glad to be here. I think this is going to be an interesting and enlightening conversation. You're so serious. It's like you watch Freedom Tunes. Ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Hello, I'm a political cartoonist. I make funny jokes about politics. I do these little cartoons. Look, I start to get wild on the show, all right? It's just like I can't come right out the gates
Starting point is 00:04:33 being too crazy. People are going to shut this off. That's fair. There's only so much zaniness that a person can handle. One zane at a time. Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Just you wait. Thinking about resistance, it makes me think about the Vietnamese and how after the Korean War, 1950s, they realized they can't resist the American Air Force. It's impossible. So they had to build tunnels. They had to get out to think outside the box to resist. And I see these people resisting with a hammer. They want to walk in and stand there and resist in the old-fashioned way. And then now I'm seeing this political hammer come
Starting point is 00:05:03 down on these people. There's other ways to resist. I'm interested in talking about that stuff, but we've got to get these people out. I mean, this is just one of the greatest travesties of American history, and because we're in it, I don't think people realize how dangerous it is. Yeah, I hate to be the negative Nancy on this one, but I think it's going to get darker before, you know, before the dawn. But we'll get into that stuff. So Ian's chilling.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Yeah, yeah. Hit me up at iancrossland.net, but first watch the show. Yes. I am also here pushing buttons in the corner, as I do. I love doing that. That is my job. And I do think that this January 6th thing really kind of puts to bed the idea that Biden winning was going to bring any kind of normalcy back to the U.S., especially what they were
Starting point is 00:05:42 doing with Rogan, too. So hopefully we get into some of that during the show. Not to mention Biden's approval rating is beyond in the gutter. All right, ladies and gentlemen, before we get started, head over to TimCast.com and become a member to help support this show, the work we do, all of our journalists that we have on staff writing news for you every single day. We are principally funded by all of your contributions as members. But as members but as members
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Starting point is 00:06:49 and at the same time, support our work, it's greatly appreciated. And we really do appreciate everybody's support. So don't forget, smash that like button. One like equals one honk. And don't forget to share this video, subscribe to the channel, all that good stuff. Let's read the latest update on the great honking. The Guardian reports Ottawa police are considering military intervention to end unlawful blockade. Authorities warned bringing in the military carried a massive risk as they believe the protesters are armed. What's really, really fascinating about this.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Let me read this paragraph. The Ottawa police chief, Peter slowly warned on Wednesday that officers did not have the resources to remove a fleet of trucks parked by the protesters in the national capital, adding the city was considering requesting help from Canadian armed forces. What did we say yesterday? We said even if they wanted to, the police would not have the means to remove these trucks. And if some of these truckers are just like, just driving my truck, what can you do about it?
Starting point is 00:07:49 The tow truck companies reportedly are refusing to get involved. They've said, various companies have reported as saying, we have agreements within the community. We don't want to get involved in whatever this is, but the protests and the government stuff leave us out of it. So you basically have these truckers in Ottawa, along with a bunch of other cars wailing their horns, and there's nothing the government can do to stop it. The military won't be able to tow anybody. The truckers are here to stay. And it's really, really simple.
Starting point is 00:08:12 If the people of Ottawa, if the government wants it to stop, just comply. If you just comply, you'll get your city back. It's not hard. It's only two weeks of honking to restore the freedoms. Oh, I love it. Yeah, I mean, there's just something so beautiful and satisfying about seeing the worst, most controlling group of people you've ever seen in your life
Starting point is 00:08:33 not being able to force their will onto a group of people. It's like they finally found something they couldn't get past and it's glorious. You know, I was thinking about this video of a guy and he's yelling, I haven't been able to sleep in five days because of the honking.
Starting point is 00:08:49 And I was like, I literally don't care about you, guy. You sat back while the government steamrolled by decree all of this awful stuff that caused strife and chaos in people's lives and destroyed their businesses. And now people are honking their horns. The only reason this guy is yelling is because he thinks he has a right to tell them to stop. You see, he didn't, he didn't do anything to stop the government from steamrolling over
Starting point is 00:09:13 people's rights. No, but now he's going to go to a trucker and be like, I'll, I'll yell at you. Sorry, buddy. You've got the workers rising up and saying, no, if you, if you wouldn't stand up for your rights, then what do you think you're going to get accomplished? Look, it's just remarkable that you can clearly see the dynamics of the political landscape here. The government can do it. He won't complain. He says, what freedoms have you even lost? But when the people stand up and create discomfort, now he's mad.
Starting point is 00:09:41 You know what? Go lick a boot, dude. I don't care to hear it. I'm thinking about at the end of World War II when the Americans and the British were rolling through Germany and liberating. I mentioned this once before on the show. All the German citizens that had just been standing by and watching it happen were now getting basically conscripted out of their houses to go clean up the concentration camps. Yes. And forced to look at it with their own eyes and see this is what they've done.
Starting point is 00:10:07 They weren't in a position to tell the American troops, stop honking because it had gone that far. We haven't gone that far yet, and hopefully we won't. But you can't sit by and comply with a tyrannical government and expect when the cavalry comes in to fix the situation that you're not going to be pulled into it. Well said. Also, can you believe being like, I understand it's a little frustrating to have people honking your horns.
Starting point is 00:10:28 But it's like, oh, my goodness, the people who bring me all of my food and literally everything I need to survive without complaining every single day are making noise when I want to sleep one time in my entire life. I'm so sorry that that happened to you. It's sad. I'm very sympathetic, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what, man? The honking will continue until freedom you. I'm very sympathetic, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what, man? The honking will continue until freedom improves. I like that.
Starting point is 00:10:49 I would be opening my window and cheering. What's interesting is the ruling class now being exposed for the contempt that they have for the common man. It used to be even Republicans here, Democrats obviously, standing for working
Starting point is 00:11:06 class individuals and them collectively. But now they can't even hide their contempt. They can't even hide their contempt for who Hillary Clinton called the deplorables and now Justin Trudeau, who won't even deign to meet with these people, saying he doesn't agree with them like he did the BLM protesters. So you just have this global contempt of the ruling elite finally fully exposed for hating the people that they're supposed to protect and defend. And I think that that's sort of what happened on January 6th, same thing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what really, really blew my mind as I was browsing Reddit about an hour or so ago, and there was a post where it said something like, oh, yeah, yeah, it was in Ottawa.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Someone put in their window, it said, you know, Nazis F off, and there was like a swastika with a line through it. And then I saw that, and it's a top post. And I was like, geez, they are laying on the propaganda so thick. They're so boring. But I looked at the comments. And the comments on Reddit, it's always leftists being like, me, the right, me.
Starting point is 00:12:11 No, the comments were people saying, like, there was one guy. Like, this is so dumb. Like, you know, people were saying, like, look, I get the honking's annoying, but it was literally one guy with a flag, seriously. And then someone else was like, yeah, but what about the Confederate flag? And then all the responses were like, we watched them throw that guy out of the protest. Propaganda's not working.
Starting point is 00:12:29 I mean, we'll get into it later, but CNN just completely imploding. No, dude, if you can't propagandize a bunch of Redditors and get them to accept the narrative, you have no hope. There's nothing. There's nothing for you. Yo, because Reddit is such an easily astroturfed platform that I'm pretty sure, like if you were to ask me based on what I know about marketing and what's going on with these social media platforms, I'd be willing to bet – and we do know this is true to a certain extent.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Reddit is basically just political organizations manipulating the platform to create the perception of popular opinion. And Republicans are really bad at it, so they don't. And the Democrats are much better at it. And big tech works with them and colludes with them. So you go on Reddit. Man, all of the top posts are like socialists, communists, far left, everything. It is mind-numbing. But when even that stuff isn't working, how do you propagandize people that you're the workers, that you're standing up for the poor people when it's truckers?
Starting point is 00:13:32 Non-college educated, for the most part, people who are just working class jobs, who are, as Jamin said, bringing you your food and they're the bad guys. I don't think that narrative is going to fly. So do you think it's safe to say that they believe, obviously, that the next step after propaganda is to bring in the military? Because that's what it looks like to me. Remember we were talking about Tales of the Economic Hitman or whatever that book was called? Was that what it was called, Ian? Economic Hitman, yes. It wasn't Tales, but something like that. Tales, it was like stories or
Starting point is 00:13:51 something like Confessions. Was it Confessions of an Economic Hitman? Yeah. He basically said that, and I'm going to butcher this, but it was something like first they come to you and ask you to be on their side. You reject them, then they come back and say, how about some money? Then you reject them, then they kill you. Or it was something like that. What they'll do is they come in and try and bribe you to like be on their side you reject them then they come back and say how about some money then you reject them then they kill you or it was something like what they'll do is they come and they try and bribe you to join their side if you say no then they try and assassinate you and
Starting point is 00:14:12 if they can't then they issue a full-scale military yeah or so this seems to be like where we're at right first they try propagandizing it's not the exact same thing that doesn't work now they're trying to organize counter protests yeah but and they're already talking about bringing in the military you'll see they'll probably single out an individual in the trucker convoy and then start propagandizing him because then they're now they're going to do the ad hominem attack next they did that oh they did they did that it didn't work yeah so first they smear the whole event oh they're a bunch of far-right racists then we started seeing posts about like this organizer is far right
Starting point is 00:14:45 associated with the alt-right and blah blah nobody cared it's getting bigger it's getting the honking grows the honking continues until freedom improves now they're talking about military well and this is what i think happens they've overplayed their hand to the point where everyone who sees the propaganda knows that it's ridiculous and they don't get that back that's the wonderful part about it once you overplay your hand, it's not like you get the cards back. People are just never going to trust them when they talk about anything ever again. And it's beautiful. This is about so much more than just truckers, right? And everyone knows that it has been from the beginning. They're asserting their
Starting point is 00:15:16 rights as workers. And so it extends to all other people in all other fields that are necessary. But also, they're really standing up for the ordinary person of the nation they're from, and I think other nations as well. And they're also making it perfectly clear that the average person does not accept the narrative being put forward by the media. Just wait until QAnon shows up in Canada, though. That is going to really be a game changer because that will show everyone that this is orchestrated. No, I'm joking.
Starting point is 00:15:48 I was like, wait a minute. Hold on. You know, Q, I mean, Q shows up. I'm going to let you talk. I'm going to let you say what you have to say. No, that'll be next. It'll be, no, this is the Canadian Q. They've already tried.
Starting point is 00:15:58 This is Russia propaganda, right? Yes, exactly. And they've had the Confederate flags. I did. I did. Then they had the informant there who they kicked him out. But pretty soon it's going to be Q. It's going to be Canada Q.
Starting point is 00:16:11 There will be like Q. There was a lady on TV who was like, now because of Canada's support for Ukraine, do you think Russia could be involved? Oh, my gosh. This is the thing, right? They only have so many tricks in their bag. They're remarkably uncreative people. And the thing is these tactics have kind of worked for a little while, but more and more people have been waking up to them,
Starting point is 00:16:32 and I think we're finally at the tipping point where no one believes it anymore. I've been looking at anti-work and work reform on Reddit for months now, and they're saying, like, workers of the world, unite. Where are these leftist subreddits when the workers are uniting? Hold on. The anti-work reddit says, why don't they say like non-workers of the world unite? Yeah, really. The funny thing is that anti-work initially was this radical idea that no one should work.
Starting point is 00:16:57 I don't want a job. It's the stupidest thing ever. And they try and act like they're smart. They're like, well, I was reading a book by Marx and he explains capital. When in reality, they're like lazy, living in their trash departments on government benefits. And they're saying like, but I don't want to walk dogs anymore. 20 hours a week. And we saw that on Fox.
Starting point is 00:17:16 And it was a PR disaster for them. But anti-work evolved into a work reform subreddit after the whole debacle where they did this interview on Fox and were exposed as being people who just didn't want to do any work and were kind of lazy, the work reform subreddit took off. Now, I agree with a lot of work reform. I think the corporate structure in a lot of ways, a lot of really bad things. I think student loan debt has reached critical mass and the whole system is broken and it's been totally reformed. But why aren't these people coming out and being like, hey, look, the workers are finally rising up. This is a really good thing. Why don't we stand in solidarity with the working class?
Starting point is 00:17:52 Oh, because the actual working class don't believe in their far left psychosis. They're insane policies. They never have. Well, I mean, I think we've we got the first taste of this after Trump was elected. It became apparent that right leaning people tend to be more in touch with what your average working person actually wants and the democratic party doesn't really represent those people now it's as clear as it's ever been but this was not our our first view of this i when i in like 2018 i had an opportunity to go back to ohio and live in ohio for a little while i'd been in like la before that new york chicago i'd been
Starting point is 00:18:24 in these big cities. And at first I was back and like, I was living in a farm town in Ohio and my friends were like, Trump, Trump. And I'm like, Trump, why? What's going on? What? And it's just, it hurt. It was like being in like some sort of acid,
Starting point is 00:18:37 like a pool of acid. It was burning me, but I came out so much stronger because I wasn't being manipulated anymore. I was seeing things from this other like workers perspective that I'd been just lost. It had been lost to me in the big city for 15 years. It was really incredible. The power of the worker, man. I want to show you guys this subreddit post from Lockdown Critical Left.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Yes. This is amazing. It's from two days ago. Cool Specter wrote, workers are uniting in solidarity against an authoritarian government and the left is against it. The trucker convoy is the closest thing to a working class uprising I've seen in my lifetime. I wasn't around in the 60s. And yet the left is somehow against it. Isn't this exactly the kind of thing the left should be supporting? Are there even any working class people on the left anymore? Why do they all seem to be Zoom tech workers or unemployed? Why is the actual working class overwhelmingly not on the left? It's really
Starting point is 00:19:31 unsettling to see actual working class unity taking direct action against fascist mandates, and the left is taking the side of the fascists. Except for those of us who have been watching for the past 10 years, it's exactly what's been happening the whole time. Yeah. Well, it's also, I mean, to add another layer here, you have the left literally after, you know, two years after the Summer of Love and these protests and all of this anti-police rhetoric. They are now like begging the police to come in and crack down on a workers' vote. The military. Yeah, now it's ATAB.
Starting point is 00:20:04 It is Canada. So, you know, to be fair, it's a different country, but you're right. They have BLM protests in Canada, too. And Trudeau stood with them. I'm sorry, kneeled with them. Kneeled with them, yeah. So he bent the knee. Why isn't the working class returning the favor, right? But of course it's because BLM and these leftist groups
Starting point is 00:20:19 never represented the working class in the first place. Yeah, so my favorite author is Terry Pratchett, and he has the perfect quote about this. He says, People on the side of the People, capital T, capital P, always ended up disappointed in any case. They found that the People tended not to be grateful or appreciative or forward-thinking or obedient.
Starting point is 00:20:36 The People tended to be small-minded and conservative and not very clever and were even distrustful of cleverness. And so the children of the revolution were faced with the age-old problem. It wasn't that you had the wrong kind of government, which was obvious, but that you had the wrong kind of people. And I think that's what the left is discovering. Entirely.
Starting point is 00:20:51 I think they've known this. Yes. For a long time. It's why there was this really funny moment where in Seattle, some socialists came out and were protesting against Amazon. And then some trade workers
Starting point is 00:21:01 and construction guys and contractors showed up in their vests and hard hats and started chanting them down because they were the actual working class guys. These intelligentsia college graduate types think they're working class. They're quite literally not. They're the intelligentsia. I represent the working class.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Well, no. It's also funny because the left has always tried to say that they represented the working class, but then they'll take all of these wildly unpopular social positions that your average working person does not believe in at all and then try to force it on them. So it's like even with situations outside of this, I'm pro-working class, except I think a working class person should lose their job for stating something in a public forum that literally every other working class person believes about transgenderism, for example. Like Whoopi Goldberg. They suspend her. She's a good working class person believes about transgenderism, for example. Yeah, like Whoopi Goldberg, you know? They suspend her for- She's a good working class woman. That's right.
Starting point is 00:21:49 And they come after her with this cancer culture nonsense. It's so obvious because it really is about money. Here she is making a humble $96,000 per week. Yes. Per week. Per week. And of course, because- Not even six figures.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Yeah. Not even six figures. Per week, yeah. Per week. And so she can't defend herself and so she gets suspended for two weeks terrible heavens when when will the workers rise up you know but but i bring that up real quick just because it's a good example of what happens to be goldberg when she doubles down on offensive comments gina carano on the other hand
Starting point is 00:22:18 who didn't say anything offensive she said don't demonize your neighbor she loses her job well i thought that whoopie thing was an example of critical race theory having gone too far. It went too far because she all of a sudden is now starting to think that if someone has the same skin color as someone else, that they're the same race. Skin color has nothing to do with race. Maybe it's not safe to say nothing, but if you take someone out of a place on earth And put them somewhere else Within two or three generations Their skin color is going to be different Their grandkids are going to look way different Than if you put them in sub-Saharan Africa
Starting point is 00:22:51 Let me try and help you out Ian By making this point There are Asian cultures that look very similar To Native American cultures Even though they're very different I came across the Bering Strait 13,000 years ago And so it's not necessarily You could be a different race or ethnicity and look very similar to other –
Starting point is 00:23:07 So skin color and race are not the same thing. But they are connected. You could say that there is a correlation there. It's really offensive and egregious that she would make that claim. Yeah. Yeah. So there was – related to the way that the left views the working class, there was this book that I read when I was 17 that really informed my view on this. And it's called Intellectuals by Paul Johnson. And he sort
Starting point is 00:23:32 of goes through the lives of many of the people who are held up as like the foundation or the foundational thinkers of modern society. And what he points out is that so often these are people who claim to love humanity in the abstract, but in their personal relationships, when they dealt with actual humans, they tended to treat them like garbage. And I think there's a parallel here because the left tends to be much more likely to say, I want to change the entire world. I want to reshape the entire society and change how people think about things, change the way people treat each other. And I think conservatives are much more likely to err on the side of subsidiarity,
Starting point is 00:24:06 subsidiarity and try to change what's around them as opposed to going for the world as a whole, because they're more interested in actual individual people. And so these lefties have this idea in their head of what the working class is as an abstraction. And then when they have to deal with actual working class people and their desires, they come to realize that human beings are messy and they require that you sacrifice your own will in order to care for them. And they're not willing to do that. You know, I wonder if, you know, Marx has some good points about capital and stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:33 And I wonder if ultimately a bad ideology, but you know, it's broken clock is right twice a day. But my point is you get these, these college graduate people that some of the highest salary earners in the country, in the world, and they're greedy and jealous and angry and purposeless. So they feel like something is wrong. Something is wrong with my life. Then they read Das Kapital or whatever, and they're like, he's talking about me because I hate my life. He's literally not talking about you. You are the one. Let's just about me. Yes. Because I hate my life. He's literally not talking about you. You are the one.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Let's just be real. The intelligentsia are the ones who get executed because they're threats to the revolution. Oh, yeah. No, as soon as the new revolutionary sect rises to power, they end up taking out all the people that fought for the revolution in the first place because those are agitators. They were the ones who fomented revolution. Exactly. Yeah. Can't have those people in your system.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Nope. Well, we have this other post from Reddit. It's called The Counter-Protest from r slash Ottawa. Hello, everyone. My name is Mackenzie, and I am not afraid. This Saturday, I will be organizing the peaceful counter-protest against the terrorists occupying our city center. Terrorists.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Terrorism is defined as the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians in the pursuit of political aims. People are afraid. Our downtown workers are afraid to go to work. The police is afraid. The police is afraid to act. The city has denied me an official protest permit citing COVID concerns. I am not afraid.
Starting point is 00:26:01 No, you're a fascist. Can I say the most? You're literally a fascist. Also, can I say the most boring thing in the world, but I think needs to be said here, like where was this kind of talk during the BLM riots? Like, how does that not fit the definition of terrorism when buildings are being burnt down? I don't believe this is a real person.
Starting point is 00:26:17 I don't, I, you know, I mean, it's probably, but come on, you know, I'm reading some of these posts on Facebook from lefties, and I'm like, dude, you don't actually believe what you're saying, right? Like, you can't be that psychotic. No, they are. Yeah, it's a mix. Well, look, what really is pissing me off right now
Starting point is 00:26:37 is how they're like, the school banned the book mouse. And I'm like, they literally didn't ban the book. They removed it from the curriculum. Does that mean the Gulag Archipelago has been banned as well? Oh, no, they're banning anti-communist propaganda. What do we do? No, it's just not part of the curriculum.
Starting point is 00:26:53 You know what I would say to everyone who's upset about Miles? I think, and here's an idea, we should have curriculum transparency to ensure those right-wing fascists don't go meddling with curriculums in ways that parents aren't aware of. We should have curriculum transparency. I just saw that there was some pushback against that. So making the student's curriculum transparent to the world, is that what it is, or just to the parents? To the parents and to the community, yeah. To the community, meaning like it's on the internet for me to go look at?
Starting point is 00:27:19 Yeah, anyone could see. Right. I'm open to it. Open source. Yeah, of course. Why wouldn't you? Public schools. Here's something I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Do you guys know? How many books are in a curriculum? That's like, a curriculum is like something they want you to read throughout the year or whatever. Yeah. It can't be that many. Yeah, it's like four or five maybe. Really?
Starting point is 00:27:33 Just four or five? No, it's not too many. Well, I think maybe per class or something like that. Yeah, per class. Yeah, yeah. Like per English class. So, you know, I don't want to get wrapped up in that whole mouse conversation again, but, you know, just in the context of what these people are saying.
Starting point is 00:27:44 When I see this post and it's like, I am not afraid. These people are terrorists. It's like, dude, they're honking car horns. Calm down. Yeah, you wouldn't have to say I'm not afraid if you weren't afraid. You wouldn't be saying that.
Starting point is 00:27:55 You're obviously afraid. That's why you're talking about I am not afraid. No, I don't think it's a real person. You think it's an AI? No. No. A slider that you could be like, how liberal, how left-wing do you want it?
Starting point is 00:28:04 How authoritarian do you want it? Ian, build it. It AI? No. A slider that you can be like, how liberal, how left-wing do you want it? How authoritarian do you want it? Ian, build it. It's going to be AI. If you put it all the way to the left, it gets you fired from your job. What I mean is, this person is lying. They're crafting a political message
Starting point is 00:28:15 for political reasons. Man, I can't put anything past anybody these days. I was buying it. Really? Mm-hmm. Because you've seen stuff like this before? No, no.
Starting point is 00:28:24 What you were saying about the scales. It was a slider. Yeah. I think it might be an AI. Yeah. Yeah. It took the political compass. No, this is well-crafted by a person, and it's probably someone who is liberal, left,
Starting point is 00:28:35 whatever the Canadians call themselves. They don't have Democrats or whatever. And it's their version of establishment communist elite type, authoritarian across the board. And they were like, what can we do to push back against this worker uprising? Let's do a popular message. Let's post into the city subreddit and then make people think
Starting point is 00:28:52 it's a popular thing for a regular person. A regular person who's like, honking your horns is terrorism. Yeah, no, but when Black Lives Matter caused $2 billion in damages and killed around 30 people, maybe then we can call it terrorism. And I also love to throw it to you, Julie, that January 6th, oh, the police opened the door and let people walk in the building.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Terrorism. Yeah, they got a strong definition, don't they? And when protesters like literally broke down the barriers in front of the White House and were setting fire to the church across the street from it. That was not an insurrection. That was not terrorism. The president of the United States had to be hidden away in a shelter. But that was not terrorism or an attempt at an insurrection. Right. Well, in here, it's not just Reddit posters or whack jobs who are randomly saying that this is terror. You have our FBI director, Christopher Wray, who was designated January 6th as an act of domestic terror. They are comparing January 6th defendants to terrorists.
Starting point is 00:29:51 And so when you have this codified by your top law enforcement official, then of course, that is how it goes mainstream. So you have Democratic lawmakers or even judges just say, well, they were terrorists. This was a terrorist attack, and these people are terrorists. So then everybody becomes a terrorist, right? Except for the actual terrorists, you know, the people who burned down cities and, to your point, $2 billion in damages. The FBI has arrested three times as many people related to January 6th than they have the entirety of 2020 rioting, which is insane.
Starting point is 00:30:23 And you have Chris Wray still lying about it, saying, oh, we're handling both events equally. We can't read and we can't pay attention to actually what's happening. Just think about that for a couple seconds. You have people who caused, when we say $2 billion in damages, that's the maximum the insurance companies would pay out. It's not even the total amount. The damage could be way higher.
Starting point is 00:30:46 When you have estimates ranging from like 26 to 32 dead in these riots, they burnt down a police station, and the police were forced to flee. For three months, they were firebombing a federal courthouse. And there's no terror declaration. There's no law enforcement to stop that. They're dismissing charges against those people. They've already dismissed about a third of the charges related to Portland. Just think about that for two seconds. And then you have the MAGA Meemaw types who went to the Capitol and the police removed the barricades. The police did that. And you see one cop fanning people. They walk in.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Now, there was conflict at the tunnel. People were fighting. And we had Richie McGinnis on the show. He's a journalist who was there. People were shoving with cops and fighting with them, yelling stuff. But then you have people
Starting point is 00:31:35 who are walking up to a door. The police open the door and one cop can be heard saying, I don't agree with it, but I agree with your right to protest as they all come in, walking and bumbling about the Maga Meemaw types. They're the terrorists.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Madison Cawthorn spoke at a rally for President Trump far away from, you know, relatively far away. And they're claiming he was supporting the he was involved in the insurrection. And the media is on board and the law enforcement, our law enforcement apparatus is on board. When you have these two very distinct circumstances, you need to start realizing that they're at war with you, that they want to destroy your life. And what I mean by they, I mean like there are elements in the FBI, not every single person, obviously, but you look at the political landscape. There are powerful connections between media and Democrats.
Starting point is 00:32:24 And I'm not speculating. We've got the CNN story where the woman who worked for Andrew Cuomo then became chief marketing officer at CNN and was hooking up with the president, and that whole scandal happens. They're obviously colluding in big tech as well, and they want to ruin your life. They hate you. And you just have the news this week that a top national news editor at the Washington Post has to recuse herself from her job, from her position, because she's married to the chief of staff to the FBI director, Chris Wray. So think about, I mean, so the incestuousness. So you have a major newspaper who has lied about Russiagate for years and now is covering up huge stories like the Whitmer kidnapping, FBI kidnapping plot, and certainly has a huge spin on what happened.
Starting point is 00:33:13 You know, Ray Epps, that's a conspiracy theory. This is the Washington Post. And then you find out here is she is married, a top editor married to the chief of staff, to the FBI. What is her name? Matea Gold. So this was a great Paul Sperry piece, investigative piece on real clear investigations. And he details the whole thing. And this man's father is tied to the
Starting point is 00:33:35 Clinton machine. You know, it just... It's a big club and you ain't in it, that's for sure. You don't want to be, right? As George Carlin said, it's the same big club they used to beat you over the head with. Once they get you in, they want to keep you in. That's why I don't want to get in. I'd rather do it from outside. They're losing.
Starting point is 00:33:52 They're losing. Yeah, people don't act this way if they're winning. People act this way in power when they're losing. The desperation. That's right. Like rating James O'Keefe. The FBI rate on James O'Keefe. I'm just like, wow. You've got to be really desperate to pull a move like that. You do.
Starting point is 00:34:06 And I mean, I think that that's one thing that our side or whoever's side needs to realize. And I talk with this, like people are friendly Smith. When you are a political party and you're in charge, you don't act this way if you are winning over the masses, if you're convincing them. You know, even 30 years ago, if you're a Bill Clinton and you're charming and you're trying to actually bring people together, at least win office. But this is actually the last gasp of the left, of the radical left. They're desperate, and this is why they are calling people terrorists. That's why they're rounding up Indiana memos. You know, this is why the media is so corrupt.
Starting point is 00:34:43 And, I mean, it's all falling apart for them. They think that they're convincing us that they're winning, but they're actually losing. And so that's why it's going to get worse before it gets better. I've heard that a lot, Meemaw. What does that mean specifically? Like it just means like regular person or something? Well, I mean, there were older women there. One Indiana grandma, the Meemaw, who went through the re-education camp from her court-appointed radical left attorney. And,
Starting point is 00:35:12 you know, she was a grandmother of five, but there were elderly, older, not elderly, you know, 60-some-odd-year-old women who were also raided by the FBI and charged with misdemeanor. So that's sort of the joke. But there were just average Americans, and it was very offensive for those people to be in the Capitol building. I was thinking about this. 2023 is primary season. Donald Trump, presidential primary season. Donald Trump is already campaigning.
Starting point is 00:35:39 He's already got that viral video where he's like, I'm going to be the 45th and 47th president of the United States. And so we know what that is. If you were to ask me, I'd say they planned that because he wanted people to know he's running. He wants the funds, the donations, the interest, but he doesn't want to publicly announce he is. It's very clever. Or maybe it really was just him and some buddies were golfing and he, and he said it, you know, because he wasn't, he didn't care. But this means if Joe Biden is not going to be running for reelection,
Starting point is 00:36:08 and I don't think he will be, we'll have to hear something in the next six or so months because for Donald Trump to already be gearing up and he's doing his campaigns, he's got 122 million. The Democrats need to start raising money.
Starting point is 00:36:22 If Joe Biden is going to run for reelection, he needs to start gearing up now, but he's not. I don't think Joe Biden can win again. People hate him. His approval rating is in the gutter. What was the jobs report? Minus 300,000? Minus?
Starting point is 00:36:38 It was supposed to be plus. Didn't that happen during the lockdowns? Wasn't that like when everything shut down? It was like that kind of figure? That's scary bad. But my point is, if it is true that Joe Biden will not be running for re-election, I think by like June, we're going to hear an announcement of something's going to happen. Joe Biden raised $1.69 billion for his re-election or his election campaign last year. Is that correct?
Starting point is 00:37:02 No, no, no, no. I'm sorry. Ian, I have to correct you. Joe Biden and the DNC. It's Joe Biden didn't raise the money. Anti-Trump raised the money. $1.7 billion
Starting point is 00:37:16 and the dude sat in his basement and didn't do interviews. What was his campaign? Does that include all the in-kind donations, billions from big tech who are censoring everyone? And probably not. That's scandalous. So where does this money go for?
Starting point is 00:37:28 Trump raised $1.96 billion. He was at least out there running around doing stuff. So, Julie, does this strike you as anything? Could it possibly be anything other than political warfare? And how bad do you think it's going to get before the election? With January 6th altogether? I think it's going to get worse. Everything around it. Yeah, all of this stuff. Yeah, I mean, I think it's going to get before the election? With January 6th altogether? I think it's going to get worse. Everything around it, I mean.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Yeah, all of the stuff. Yeah, I mean, I think it is going to get worse. I think it's going to get worse in two ways. They're going to ratchet this up. You already see the January 6th committee. They're desperate. They know their time is running down as well, right? Their months are numbered because they're going to lose the House.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Right. So they're going to do whatever they can. They're going to issue a report, probably two reports. One is that will deal with the insurrectionist lawmakers. They're going to try to suggest new legislation that will deal with lawmakers who act insurrection-y in the future. But also they're going to tie this to election integrity reform. And so this has been the basis of January 6th since the very beginning,
Starting point is 00:38:27 to tie anyone who wanted election integrity, to tighten up the rules that happened in 2020. That's the report. That's the excuse of January 6th. Well, then we need all these reforms so this never happens again, that sort of thing. But it's also going to get worse. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:38:43 It's going to get worse because the American people are going to find out exactly what the government did. Government actors, agencies, political actors who helped orchestrate what happened that day and execute it. And that is going to be mind blowing to a lot of Americans. So the Democrats are losing so much support. Their popularity is dropping so much. They're not going to be able to pass any of this stuff they're going to try but they're spinning their wheels but then they'll just have it out there right so it'll just be out there these reports it'll be like the muller report they're still talking about the muller report they want it unredacted like what do you what it's over but but you have insane people on the left you have millions of those people i mean
Starting point is 00:39:22 they still actually think that Trump colluded with Russia, right? I mean, you could tell them anything. They still think that the Covington kid disrespected the elder and he should be in prison or something. It doesn't matter. You know, it's not just the left, the political ruling class or the media, it's their followers. It is their, it's millions of our countrymen who have completely lost their minds. And they would be happy not just to have the January Sixers in prison, political prison, but all of us. I mean, this is what COVID exposed. COVID tyranny is what the 2020. And it's certainly what January Six is. You have Americans who want this to happen. So let me ask you, you seem to believe that it is going to come out how deeply involved
Starting point is 00:40:05 the state was with January 6th. How do you think the American people are going to respond to this? And what do you think the government's response to their response will be? That's a great question, because a lot of people say, well, who cares? You know, you're going to have half of the country who is going to believe from the beginning it was an insurrection incited by Donald Trump. But you are still going to have Americans. And I think this is sort of the whole Ray Epps thing. That has sort of raised a lot of red flags for people. Who is he?
Starting point is 00:40:32 Why hasn't he been charged? Why won't the FBI or Merrick Garland answer who he is? So that's raised a lot of questions. But the government's involvement was deep, and it lasted for months ahead of time. You had something called the FBI Operation Cold Snap, which was launched in the spring of 2020 to infiltrate militia groups who were planning these anti-lockdown rallies. So a lot of it goes back to lockdowns.
Starting point is 00:40:58 They had informants in these militia groups. We know that for a fact. And they were responsible for concocting and executing, just like the Whitmer kidnapping probe, most of what we saw on January 6th. Not just the government, D.C. Metro Police, Capitol Police, Muriel Bowser's administration. It was a lot of independent factors,
Starting point is 00:41:20 which is why they kept the Capitol intentionally insecure that day, because they didn't want thousands of National Guardsmen there saying, hey, why they kept the Capitol intentionally insecure that day, because they didn't want thousands of National Guardsmen there saying, hey, why are you throwing flashbangs into the crowd? You know, why are you shooting rubber bullets at people outside? Why don't we go inside? Why don't we put up the barricades? Why don't we close the doors if you don't want them? So that is why they didn't have them there. I think the propaganda has failed. I think what we saw with Joe Biden's collapse in popularity after Afghanistan, what we saw with the ongoing Joe Rogan attempt to censor everything, it's just not working.
Starting point is 00:41:57 And I think regular people, they're just not falling for it anymore. Especially, like, we read that post from the lockdown critical left saying, like, why isn't the left supporting the worker uprising? The message is getting out. They can't control it anymore. I mean, CNN, MSNBC, their ratings are just abysmal. People don't care. They're not listening.
Starting point is 00:42:17 They've lost what Mika Brzezinski said. They've lost the ability to control, to tell people what to think. You guys remember when she said that? She was like, you know, he thinks he's going to tell people what to think, but that's our job. That's economic. So economic hitman wargaming here, that means that that's the first stage where they're trying to bribe. If they think their propaganda is not working anymore, that means that their bribes have failed.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Now they're going to go to stage two, which is assassination. So you're like, not personality assassinations, but like, what do you call it? Character assassinations. Character assassinations. So you're like, not personality assassinations, but like, what do you call it? Character assassinations. Character assassinations. Yeah, absolutely. Imprisonment against people's will unjudiciously with the Patriot Act, stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:42:53 We're in that stage now. Dude, you guys got to understand how easy it is to carry out. So let me slow down, start over. They used to, governments all over the world, assassinate. I mean, it's world war one and stuff like that we we know assassinations happen but when it came to popular uprisings there was a fear that you would make a martyr and so you know if you read a lot of the history books okay so we so we have to character assassinate we have to make them not worthy of being heroes
Starting point is 00:43:19 but these days man i mean first of all there's that story i don't i don't know how true this is but i remember reading some reddit meme meme about the CIA's heart attack gun. You ever hear about that? Oh, yeah. It fired like a frozen – like a dart with like a frozen poison that like when it dissolved would just kill you and look like a heart attack or whatever. They testified under oath about that actually. Yeah. It's very, very easy to assassinate and get away with it.
Starting point is 00:43:43 It's ridiculously easy. People don't understand this. They think we live in this world where like, oh, they would be able to do it. They would be able to pull it off. It's like, dude, find a homeless guy. They give him a weapon and they just send him off on his way. You know what I mean? It does raise flags, though.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Real assassinations, which is why they go with the characters. And why there's indefinite detention against like where people can't even like speak out. They're in solitary. So you don't even know they're being detained. This is why I bring this up because they've lost control of the narrative. That freaks me out. Like what will they do next? Look at the try to regain control.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Drone bombs over cities. Like that's the third stage of economic. When you have a little scale. Yeah, but they're not going to do that against their own. I don't think so. But you never think the government's going to do that against their own. You never think. let me make my point they need you to work to produce things for the system which they want to control
Starting point is 00:44:31 it's like if somebody wants to own a house they're not going to blow it up because they can't have it a crazy person would and maybe they're crazy people in government but the idea is how can we take control of this resource we don't want want to destroy it. They're willing to tolerate some loss. But my point is they've lost control of the narrative. So, you know, maybe powerful people, and I'm not saying the grand conspiracies or anything. I'm just saying powerful people get mad and they can be dangerous.
Starting point is 00:44:58 They have military bases all over the earth and they're afraid of losing it to China, the hegemony to go to the power to China. So they're desperately trying to crack down on American dissent to maintain the global military autocracy. I do not agree. I don't think they're worried about China at all. I think they like China. Maybe it's a different level of people.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Who did we have on who talked about Joe Biden's cabinet? Peter Schweizer, I think. No, no, no. Well, we just had him on. Yes, he did talk about Biden's cabinet. Peter Schweizer, I think. No, no, no, no. Well, we just had him on. Yeah. I mean, yes, he did talk about Biden and China. But we had someone on a while ago talking about Joe Biden's cabinet has somebody who is very, very pro-China and pro-trade with China and all this stuff. I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:45:35 And if you look back at the Clinton administration, there's all of those ties and all those connections. Yeah. So. Okay. Okay. yeah so okay well i do believe that there's a global movement to unify everything under like a socio-communist kind of um corporatism yeah a borgish state let's figure out the acronym for that i i think that there are people that with american nationalists that are afraid of losing american control of of the global military force i could be wrong about that. I feel like they're desperate
Starting point is 00:46:05 to maintain control. I'd like to ask you one more question. You sort of got into what you think the government's role in this is. When people start to recognize that, how do you think they're going to respond to people recognizing it? I think we're in a position now, let's say this was five years ago or maybe even 10, no one would, I think, accept that the government was capable of doing this. That the FBI, the intelligence community, the national security state, that, okay, they'll screw around with people, but they're not going to actually have this full-scale operation to shut down what happened on January 6th and then use that to weaponize all of the tools of war
Starting point is 00:46:47 against American citizens. I do think, and I think it does play into the COVID tyranny, that people are recognizing that our government is run, not just political leaders, but the people who populate these agencies, the nameless, faceless, I mean, there are Anthony Fauci's, but there's thousands of them who are willing to do anything. They know that they can get away with it. They don't care about your kids. They actually want your kids punished. They don't care about
Starting point is 00:47:13 your business. They don't care about your future. They will do anything to keep a hold of power and to get rid of not just threats like Donald Trump or his family, his cabinet members, but even his 75 million voters. So I do think that people are going to be shocked when there's more information, that the information already is coming out in these trials. This is why they've kind of delayed these trials. This is why they're keeping a lot of these men held behind bars, because they don't want them telling their story.
Starting point is 00:47:44 But you can't do that forever, right? We learned from Russiagate. We've also learned from COVID. They can only get away with fooling people, concealing evidence, getting their narrative out there for so long before it just crumbles. And then everyone goes, oh, wait a minute. This was all BS to begin with. And we had really bad people in charge of it. Yes. Absolutely. I think one key difference here, and I'm glad you mentioned Russiagate because for me, that was really the red pill with respect to the deep state. Before that, if someone claimed that the deep state or that there was a deep state and it was colluding against the sitting president, I would have said that sounds a little bit crazy.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Seamus, you're crossing anti-Semite point. Oh, that's right. The anti-Semitic point of no return on the conspiracy theory. How are you getting back down? So if you believe that there is a bureaucratic state, administrators and people who work in government who are there throughout various administrations and exert influence, you may be right.
Starting point is 00:48:41 According to this researcher, you believe in anti-Semitic conspiracy theory. And she does research on tiktok so it's very important of course yeah but uh no i mean it's true in this that was a big red pull moment but but the difference here is that with the russiagate scenario they were going specifically after people who were acting within the political system but with january 6th they're going after ordinary civilians. So I'm curious about what the fallout is going to be here. Because with Russiagate, they just stopped talking about it and it disappeared. I wonder if it's going to be more difficult for them to get away with that,
Starting point is 00:49:16 given your average person feels more threatened by what they've just done here. Right. Well, the feds raided some random woman's home. Remember that? Do you know about that up in Alaska? They've raided hundreds of people's homes. But yes, totally uninvolved people. Well, they were there, but they had the wrong
Starting point is 00:49:31 person. Right, right, right. But I mean, they're raiding people. They're doing military style FBI raids with armed agents, pre-dawn raids with military SWAT teams. They have trucks with battering rams. They're aiming rifles at children. They're aiming rifles at
Starting point is 00:49:47 children. They're aiming them at elderly women. They've dragged a disabled veteran, Thomas Caldwell, through the snow and handcuffed him. I mean, the stories of what this FBI has done. And so it's not just the top of the FBI, right? It's throughout. It's every single... Well, they need enforcers. 56 field offices have been involved in this, and they are arresting people every single week. They're trying to get to, and my prediction is, they're trying to get to 1,000 defendants by the middle of the summer.
Starting point is 00:50:19 So this could be the Democrats' huge talking point. But to your point, Seamus, this is ruining people's lives, and it's not just the family that it happens to. It's their whole neighborhood knows, their coworkers know, their church knows. Everyone sees this. It is a war on terror, not just how the tools of government authority are being used, but it's also a message to everyone. If you dissent, this is going to happen to you. This is – it sounds so similar to the start of like the Bolshevik Revolution or the rise of the Soviet Union. These are the stories that I was told by my friends who grew up as children in communism and the stories they were told by their parents about how – it got to the point where if you said one bad thing about the party or the government, you were taken away. We're not there yet. We still have shows like this. But we often talk about,
Starting point is 00:51:14 when we compare things to history, at what point did people say it's time to leave Germany? Or Spain, for that matter. Spain often gets left out of these conversations. The Spanish Civil War. Communists fighting fascists, and then you get military rule for generations. At what point do you leave? What do you do? So many people thought it couldn't happen here, and they stayed in their countries, and they paid the ultimate price. I'm telling you to leave, Seamus. Get out.
Starting point is 00:51:41 I know. You're always dropping these weird little hints on me. I think it's not just about people leaving. It's about the people who stay knowing when it's time to fight, to stand up for their country and to say, this is wrong. We're going to speak out against it. We're going to resist it. What we got going for us here is that we're not coming out of a monarchy like the Bolsheviks were. The Russian Revolution was fighting against a monarchy, so they didn't have much choice but to fight with physical arms.
Starting point is 00:52:06 We have a democratic process of free speech and things like that in place that can protect our ability to diplomatically coerce the system. And you're right. And that's why I think one of the reasons they're scared, losing narrative control, means that this upcoming election is panic mode for the establishment. It's mostly Democrats. It is many Republicans because the populist surge of the Republican Party
Starting point is 00:52:30 is not something the establishment wants. But to your point, Julie, what you were saying about how they're ramping things up for the summer because they're worried if they lose the House and the Senate, they're not just going to lose the House and the Senate to Republicans. They're going to lose the House and the Senate to Republicans like they're going to lose the House and the Senate to Republicans like Lily Tang Williams, who is like, this country is becoming communist and we have to stop it. Or Marjorie Taylor Greene or Lauren Boebert.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Yes, wouldn't that be great? That's right. And that's what they're terrified of because it's actually happening. But we still have very weak Republican leadership in the House and Senate. And people are very afraid, even when they take over, that this current leadership will not be capable or willing to do to turn the J6 committee 180 degrees and aim it at the people who have perpetrated this. They don't want to expose it. It's the same thing. A lot of this goes back to Russiagate because how we got here is that nobody was held accountable for what happened in Russiagate,
Starting point is 00:53:30 except for like Michael Sussman, like big deal. And Ukraine. Oh no, we've got the Vindmans, you know, now he's suing Trump and he's like on CNN and so is his wife. No one's held accountable. So it just got worse and worse and worse. And so I say we went four years from the FBI ambushing Mike Flynn in the White House to ambushing the Hupers, you know, ambushing veterans in their in their homes. It only took four years. But why? Because no one was held criminally responsible for what they did, which was perpetrate the biggest political fraud in American history
Starting point is 00:54:05 up until January 6th. And everybody's off so far. You know, we've got some drips out of the Durham investigation, but where's that going to go? Well, maybe there's going to be a big surge in November, but not just that. It's the state elections, the governorships as well. And we are very, very close to a convention of states. The state level Republicans are very, very different from the federal Republican leadership. So that could be something big. Some people have said it's
Starting point is 00:54:34 a bad idea. A lot of people are saying a convention of states is a good idea because in the states can just take the power, change the constitution and make big moves. But I think the establishment knows that our processes, the processes that were set up by the founding fathers, work and can save us. Well, they're not working now. I mean, that's for sure, especially. There's been no oversight.
Starting point is 00:54:55 I mean, there has not. But I just interrupt. I disagree. I think the issue is that culturally, no one's been willing to stand up and use what's been given to us because they've been too comfortable and complacent. But now that things have gotten this bad and the narrative has been shattered, there are mechanisms in place that even the establishment can't stop.
Starting point is 00:55:14 I hope that you're right. I'm a little more skeptical about that because I've seen, I see firsthand how everyone basically has been silent in the face of what's happening with January 6th. You're talking about not just the political end of it in Congress. You have this illegitimate committee issuing subpoenas and they're working hand in hand with the DOJ for contempt of Congress charges, etc. You have Joe Biden for the first time ever. U.S. president has denied executive privilege to his predecessor. He did it twice. He did it based on the fact that January 6th was so unprecedented and it went all the way to the courts. And what did the Supreme Court do? Okay, we're upholding it. So you have district judges, circuit judges, and now the Supreme
Starting point is 00:55:58 Court who's going along with the left because they're afraid. So there has been no oversight in the legislative branch of the executive branch, none. So there has been no oversight in the legislative branch of the executive branch, none. And it has to, but they, if they take over, they have to make sure they do it this time because they haven't done it. What has to happen is people need to primary all of these establishments, Republican types, and bring in more people like Marjorie Taylor Greene. I absolutely agree. I mean, I wish we had, you know, 230 of her, because she actually will do it, and she feels passionate about it. But there's still a fear factor there, and I'm afraid that if the Republicans do take
Starting point is 00:56:36 the House, the Senate is useless. You could have 100 Republican senators. They're not going to do anything, because they're all basically Lindsey Graham or Mitt Romney. They are. So it has to happen in the House. And they have to do the same thing. They have to go and zero out. They have to zero out DOJ's budget. You have to zero out the FBI. We are zeroing you out until you are done. You're done taking these. The trials are over. We're not paying for any more prosecutors. we're not paying for any more prosecutors
Starting point is 00:57:05 we're not paying for any more arrests we're not doing no more subpoenas to big tech you're done with this will they do it you have to do something that drastic if people go out and vote in the primaries go out and vote locally and make sure establishment politicians don't win then yeah it's going to be it's going to be be crazy. It's not going to be the apocalypse. That'll be if Trump wins again in 2024, because he's going to be off the leash. But if populist pro-America types win their primaries, and then the Republicans take the House, and you get a large portion of the House Republicans as people who say, we're done with this, and it's time
Starting point is 00:57:45 to go on the offensive for once, then you're going to see some pushback. You're going to see, I think, the establishment plan January 6th, done. I think you're going to see Republicans making a bunch of moves with their subpoena power. But it only happens if people go out and vote in primaries. Primaries, primaries, primaries. Amen. That's right. I mean, it's true. It's such a disaster. Only our current Republican leadership could fail to turn the fact that the deep state has literally targeted their own constituents into a political advantage. It's insane. And you're going to watch Republicans in a few weeks.
Starting point is 00:58:16 They are going to continue the funding of the government, the same government that is turning the weapons of war against their own constituents and them. Perfect example. The Congress, including most Republicans, just voted last year to give Capitol Police $2 billion more. What did Capitol Police do? They turned around. They opened up an intelligence unit for the Capitol Police, you know, the guys who, like, make sure you put your purse through the scanner or tell you, oh, the Capitol's that way. And there's, you know, Cannon Office building.
Starting point is 00:58:42 All of a sudden, they're like, they have a bunch of spies in this office. And they're not only spying on lawmakers, their staff, they're spying on their donors. They're compiling dossiers. Well, why are they doing that for the same thing they did in Russiagate, Ukrainegate, name it? They have the authority to do it. They're unchecked. They're unaccountable. And they're going to leak that information to the press, right?
Starting point is 00:59:04 So all of a sudden, this summer, you're going to see terrible stories coming out sourced to anonymous intelligence officials, which happens to be this Capitol Police intelligence unit that Republicans voted to fund. They don't, they never learn. Let me change the conversation and give people a bit of a white pill. It's a little scary conversation. We're talking about all this crazy stuff. But I have a story about the waning power of the establishment
Starting point is 00:59:27 and interrupting scandal over at everyone's favorite network, CNN. In this story from TimCast.com, CNN president Jeff Zucker announces resignation. Zucker says he failed to disclose a relationship with a colleague to the media company, but oh boy, is it so much spicier than that. We have this story from the Daily Mail. Devastated CNN hosts defend Jeff Zucker's illicit career-ending affair with staffer Alison Golast.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Brian Stelter blames Chris Cuomo for outing him, while Alison Camerota says he should not resign. Well, this is really fascinating. Chris isn't done yet. Cuomo's lawyer demand to see emails they believe will prove Jeff Zucker knew about his help for Andrew, his brother Andrew, that could cost the former CNN chief millions of dollars
Starting point is 01:00:14 after sacked host forced him to resign. All right, let me bundle this up for you guys. First of all, CNN's ratings are just in the total trash. So the Tim Pool, Timcast podcasts get more viewership than CNN does by like two or three times. That's how bad CNN's doing.
Starting point is 01:00:33 What happens is Jeff Zucker, you've got Jeff Zucker who knows this woman Alison, what's her name? Golust. For 20 years, she works for Andrew Cuomo, right? Then she leaves to go work with him in CNN. Chris Cuomo is then trying to help his brother with this big scandal. They cover it up. Chris Cuomo gets caught, doesn't get reprimanded. All of a sudden,
Starting point is 01:00:57 we're now learning that they're all in it together. They're all one big, happy family. Jeff Zucker then comes out, fires Chris Cuomo. Chris Cuomo, it seems, feels betrayed. Like, yo, what are you doing? Like, come on, man. You know, Allison, she worked with my brother and we helped you out. So then he, then he publicly, he comes out and he says, Zucker was in a relationship with her and he didn't disclose it. So then he's forced to resign. I think there's a bigger scandal behind all of this, because this shows that CNN is directly colluding with Democratic politicians, Democrat politicians. So that's I think there's more to it than just this.
Starting point is 01:01:32 And we're getting the tip of the iceberg on this one. But CNN imploding in real time from their top hosts to the president of their company, to the connections they have with democratic establishment all being exposed, let that be a good day for all of you to see the eruption in front of your very eyes. CNN was a prime vector for Russia gate misinformation, for Ukraine gate misinformation, and now- And Kavanaugh and all that stuff, and defensive BLM rioting and all that stuff. Not only does nobody watch them anymore, but they can't even keep the ship together. It's sinking, baby. That's beautiful.
Starting point is 01:02:13 So how many views do they get? So I looked up, this is totally independent of these stories. I looked up their ratings. Their total daytime viewership, 443,000 viewers. I believe it's number. No way. And their total primetime viewership is
Starting point is 01:02:26 663. So daytime is usually way lower, but this is a lot. Daytime is a lot, a lot of hours, but primetime is when everyone's tuning into the news. So they're only getting just over about a million views, but get this. They only get around 230,000 key demographic views per day. 230,000 people between the ages of 25 to 54 watch CNN on a given day. That's it. That's how abysmally bad. So I was saying this before the show. I was like, yo, one segment that I do, that we do. So on my Timcast News channel, we average like 250 unique views and key demo views. One segment I do on my channel gets more than cnn's total key demographic daily viewership shamus said to me he's like stop bragging and i said no no no no it's not because i'm doing well it's because cnn's collapsing no no and tim does all that
Starting point is 01:03:18 without any sex scandals either like these people can't even get a fraction of the viewership without doing something creepy. No, but it's true. It is kind of remarkable to see how abysmal their views are. And it's also a white pill. I don't want to get too down on
Starting point is 01:03:37 Zucker for this one. I think he really loved that girl. They've been together for 20 years. Is that right? They've known each other for 20 years. Katie couric said they were joined at the hip yeah apparently they're like friends they were like only recently he's saying they started you know oh so it's like a little will they or won't they kind of thing for a while he escaped the friend zone what was that joke you had earlier seamus i don't remember you were like uh he said that he should have revealed the relationship sooner and didn't.
Starting point is 01:04:06 And you were saying like the joke. Oh my gosh. Yeah, no. She was like, it was a miscommunication. She talked to management and he was like, you know, we're just like talking. It's not, you know what I mean? He wouldn't define the relationship. And she's like, well, I know who will.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Well, no. Yeah. You were saying like. I'm going to tell CNN. The manager goes to Jeff Zucker and and says are you in a relationship with this woman and then she turns it goes that's right that's right that's right we were he's like the the executive's like so what are you guys he's like yeah jeff what are we like what's uh what's this he's like oh and then he's like just zoom in on his face real slow
Starting point is 01:04:41 music yo this is this is a ridiculous scandal. I think he's like, this is like an easy pass for him to get out. Yeah. Well, he wanted to quit. But here's the crazy thing. They were saying this woman, this woman, Alison Golusta, or Golust, was going to, Golust was potentially going to replace him as president. So this was months ago.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Wow. Early last year. They were like, you know, she may be tapped to be the new president when he steps down because he was talking about leaving for some time. Now all of a sudden he's leaving because the whole thing is imploding. Yeah, so if nobody watches CNN, where do they
Starting point is 01:05:15 get all their money from? I'm genuinely curious. You know, it's like subsidy. But isn't it also completely insane to you guys? Isn't it completely insane that the people who make all of their money lying all the time don't conduct themselves in an upright manner in their personal lives? Yeah, that's the weird thing. It's so bizarre.
Starting point is 01:05:31 It's so weird. Who would have thought? You would think they'd be honest in their personal lives. Who would have thought that you can't trust people who you can't trust? People are calling for Brian Stelter to be fired or quit, resign. Why? Because he avoided reporting on this ongoing major scandal at his own network that people have known about for some time. Well, he feels sorry for you.
Starting point is 01:05:48 Was that him during the Project Veritas video? He's like, I feel sorry for you. I feel sorry for you. Brian Stelter? I believe it was Stelter. Oh, didn't they confront him in like, was it a parking garage or something? Yeah, he's like, I feel sorry for you. I feel sorry for you.
Starting point is 01:06:00 He was trying to get away. He's super condescending. When you arrest a murderer, you don't cut off the finger that he used to pull the trigger. That's Stelter's the finger. CNN's the villain. Yeah. Well, no, I'm kind of joking because you could always terminate Brian Stelter. Can you imagine if he did report that story on air, though?
Starting point is 01:06:19 The president of this company, my boss, is in a secret relationship with the chief marketing officer. Everyone here knows it, but no one's saying anything because we're scumbags. I feel sorry for them. Yeah, I feel sorry for them. Look, the bigger story is that CNN is one of the principal propaganda machines, and it's just like we are sitting on the – I want you all to imagine this. It is a warm summer night. We're all on the beach.
Starting point is 01:06:43 There's a nice fire going. There's a nice fire going. All right. There's a nice fire going. It's not too warm. And, you know, your friend reaches over, puts their hand on your shoulder, and hands you a nice cold beer. And you all look off into the shoreline, and you see a gigantic ship that says CNN just sinking and in flames. And then everyone holds up their drink. Salute.
Starting point is 01:07:00 What a great night. That's like, all right, first of all, I cannot condone that kind of talk. I know, right? That's like, alright, first of all, I cannot condone that kind of talk. Do you remember when someone made a meme where they photoshopped the CNN logo onto a wrestler's head and Trump was punching it and CNN literally doxxed him.
Starting point is 01:07:15 And then they banned the video. They banned the video, they doxxed this kid and then they reported on their own doxxing thinking it made them look good. They're like, we found found him he'll never do this again i feel sorry for him they didn't dox him they threatened to dox him yeah they said we know his name right that's right if he agrees to never do it again we won't release his name everyone's like yo that's crazy didn't chris wallace just go to cnn yeah cnn plus that was that was a good move well was just like, I would like to jump on that.
Starting point is 01:07:46 And then he did. Perfect timing. Yes. Perfect. You know, I wake up in the morning and I get out of bed. I turn on the Keurig and it pours me. We use biodegradable Keurig cups. They're very, very nice.
Starting point is 01:07:58 It's true. They're disgusting. I think it's fantastic. And then I get my coffee and I put some cream in it. And then I take a sip and then I walk over. And I walk over to my computer and I press the button to turn the screensaver off and I see a big story, CNN ratings in the gutter, racked by scandal. And I just look up and I say, it's going to be a good day. Oh, yeah. And I get to work and, oh, man, it feels good.
Starting point is 01:08:19 It does. No, it does. It's really frustrating to see, you know, we can talk about the Joe Rogan thing where Brian Stelter is like, we have a newsroom and we try so hard and people just trust
Starting point is 01:08:29 Joe Rogan because they don't trust us. It's like, oh, poor baby. You know, I'd love to see it. You'd love to see it,
Starting point is 01:08:34 man. You guys, they lied every, every day about Russia. They staged, they staged Chris Cuomo's quarantine. They pretended
Starting point is 01:08:41 he was in quarantine. They lied. They know they lied. Brian Stelter knows they lied. These people are was in quarantine. They lied. They know they lied. Brian Stelter knows they lied. These people are evil. Their actions are intentional. We all know it. And we are all gloating in their glorious sinking ship. Well, it's more than that. Watching their glory. We're watching it sink. Here's the other thing, though. It's not as if they just lied, right?
Starting point is 01:09:01 They have never acknowledged or apologized for any of those lies, even though they scolded you for believing that they were lying the entire time that they were lying. And so I'm not just watching this gloating. I am genuinely happy that there are fewer people consuming their lies. I want to give a shout out to our good friend Michael Malice.
Starting point is 01:09:20 He says, white pill. After CNN decided to take on Joe Rogan, both the president and most popular host were driven out of their jobs. Oh, man. That's true. Mess with Joe, you got to go. That's true. That's right.
Starting point is 01:09:32 There you go. I love it. That's perfect. I love when people are saying, denounce the honk and you get the bonk. Yeah. Because that conservative leader got out of the studio or whatever. Yeah, good mottos. Well, I think this is – So Ian was saying before the show
Starting point is 01:09:45 that he didn't really want to cancel people like CNN. And I think that this is actually a form of actual justice, not social justice. That's right. Because they've done nothing but lie. We know they've done nothing but lie. You can see Chris Cuomo coming up out of his basement when we know for a fact that he was in a fight
Starting point is 01:10:00 with a guy on a bike in the Hamptons two weeks before. We know he wasn't quarantining. We know they're all lying. They're just full of garbage. And this has finally come up for them. And yes, it does feel good. They said it does. He said that was like the N-word for Italian.
Starting point is 01:10:16 Exactly. It's not. It's very much not. It's not even close. Oh, man. So CNN lied over and over again claiming that Joe Rogan took horse medicine. They all know they lie. And when I see these posts on Facebook, they're like, Joe Rogan took horse medicine.
Starting point is 01:10:36 And then I comment. I'm like, you know he didn't, right? Like, you know a doctor prescribed him tablets. And they're like, yes, but the medication in the tablets is the same medication they use for horse medicine. So I'm just making a point. It's point well you know you're lying dude yeah like what what what what into his mouth is horse medicine what comes out of your mouth is horse crap there you go literally never an honest word for these people also wait there's something there's yeah yeah fair enough there was something i wanted to mention here um but my train of thought
Starting point is 01:11:00 my train of thought oh no i just want to say one thing about with Ian. To be fair, Ian kind of turned around on that point before the show about cancel culture. One thing that drives me crazy is this left wing talking point where they say cancel culture is just about accountability, even though they're just trying to get like average working class people fired from their jobs or political activists. They don't like punish for things they said 10 years ago. And then when we're against cancel culture, anytime we want someone to be punished for an actual crime, they go, I thought you guys were against cancel culture. You think people should be punished for actual crimes that they've committed or should be thrown out of the organization they're at for actually breaking the rules?
Starting point is 01:11:38 I thought you were against cancel. I thought you were against firing people for 10-year-old tweets. What's the deal? Hypocrisy much? Yeah. I want to say, first, I want to show you this story from Rolling Stone. Ian, I got bad news for you. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 01:11:51 Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young reunite in removing their music from Spotify. No! We support Neil, and we agree with him that there is dangerous disinformation being aired on Spotify's Joe Rogan podcast. Dude, you guys support Neil? No, no, no. Stop, stop, stop, stop. What information? What?
Starting point is 01:12:06 What? What did Joe say? What disinformation? You don't even watch the show. None of these people do. We to go off what you were just saying, Ian, we need to stop. Stop pretending that these people are being serious. They have no idea what they're talking about.
Starting point is 01:12:21 They have no idea why they're even mad. All they know is someone on the TV said, Joe Rogan bad, and they went, I'm down for some free press. Yeah. And that's it. Well, I mean, to be fair, Tim, I think that their target audience is most at risk for COVID. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Dude, it's so good seeing those guys together again, right? That's true. And you know what? This is the demographic that watches CNN. Exactly. So they see all the lies. They walk right into it. Look, man.
Starting point is 01:12:47 I'm going to listen to it on Amazon. I got to say. Ding dong. Joe came out. He did not apologize for his guests. He said they were credentialed. He said, I'm going to have these conversations. But he said, this is really funny.
Starting point is 01:12:59 He was like, I'll try to balance it out and make sure we have a more established voice a more established voice, establishment voice or something to that effect, uh, the following show. So if they do out Robert Malone, they'll have someone else on. And it's just like, Joe, you're saying that the one time out of, you know, a hundred guests, you have one critical opinion. You're going to add in another one of the 99% mainstream majority opinions. Everyone's already heard. Like, you know, Joe pointed out he had Sanjay Gupta and Mike Osterholm on his show, and then he had Peter McCullough and Dr. Malone. It's like, so you split it up pretty well,
Starting point is 01:13:33 but they're not satisfied with that. So when he, you know, gives, you make some concessions and Spotify says, okay, they wanted a misinformation policy. We'll do it. It doesn't matter. Spotify came out and said, okay, okay, we'll do your misinformation policy. And now Crosby, Stills and Nash join in and getting their music. They're not going to stop because they don't know what they're talking about. They are not talking to you. Spotify. These, these, these, these activists are not saying Spotify. We have a demand they're saying hey guys I'm yelling at Spotify right now that's what they're doing they're not communicating with any of these people they don't know why they're mad they don't know why it matters all they know is their virtue
Starting point is 01:14:13 signaling to activists they want to spend money on their music and give them press because they're has-beens and then what ends up happening is you get 30 people on Twitter who never buy your product and then the company goes 30 people on Twitter who never buy your product. And then the company goes, 30 people on Twitter are complaining about our product. Better pull it. They were never going to buy your product in the first place. So it's just frustrating when people keep giving in to obvious BS and they don't stop. When will people learn? When will anyone learn that when they come out and say, we demand you do this, if you go, okay, I'll do it. Ah, now we demand you do this, then this, uh, next we want these things. We have this list of demands.
Starting point is 01:14:48 It's never going to end until you say, shut your mouth. You're deleted. If as soon as, as soon as I said, pull my music, Spotify went, you got it by delete. And then Crosby, Stills and Nash comes out and says, we're going to reunite, say, have an ice day. You're old anyway. Bye. Just tell him to shove off. You know, look, I get it. Spotify is going to lose money. They lost share. Their shares went down because of the controversy. Many of these lefty, you know, people will pull off the platform. They knew that was going to happen when they signed Joe Rogan in the first place. So make no concessions. Well, yeah. Also, I mean, I have a hard time believing that before signing any kind of contract with Spotify, Joe Rogan didn't consider this possibility and ensure that he would not be removed from his platform because some know
Starting point is 01:15:34 nothing celebrity said he should be. I would be very surprised if there's anything. I really mean it. I could I would be very surprised if there was anything that Spotify could do. Well, to me, this just looks like a bunch of old or out of touch artists who are like oh here's my chance to get two minutes of fame because somebody somebody said india ari took her music off spotify and mary trump i have no idea mary trump took her podcast who knew she had a podcast for for young people who want to try to get a Spotify account, upload some of their music, there's more opportunity. That's right.
Starting point is 01:16:07 There you go. You're competing for less audience. Self-regulating. Or for more audience, I should say. What's funny about Crosby, Stills, and Nash is, again, exposing the hypocrisy of the left. These were the counterculture right back in the 60s, the baby boomers, the anti-war, freedom, etc. And now they're just aged, grumpy old men
Starting point is 01:16:29 who are trying to cut down the young upstart. Once again, the left is just full of hypocrisy. And these are the guys who 50 years ago were leading music's attempts in the 60s they were they were powerful in terms of their messaging and now here they are trying to didn't i mean who would have seen this coming but it just exposes what the left is didn't neil young have a free speech tour yeah i think he did yeah i watched him talking about covet a couple days ago and he was like we we can beat this thing. His voice is way higher
Starting point is 01:17:05 than you think when you listen to him talk. We can beat this thing. We can beat it. I know we can. We can do it. And it's like, what is he talking about?
Starting point is 01:17:12 Beat this thing. You don't talk about like the common, the rhino virus. Like we're going to beat this thing. It just is there. They don't even know what they're talking about.
Starting point is 01:17:20 I mean, they couldn't even put two sentences together and it makes sense of anything. But they got their headlines and that's all they care about. You just got to stop letting like, for whatever reason, people seem to think that the kid throwing a temper tantrum on the, on the, on the playground demanding that you give him the basketball is going to stop having temper tantrums when you, when you give him what he wants. It's like, dude, when the baby starts
Starting point is 01:17:44 crying and screaming, like the toddler comes in screaming, I want ice cream. You got to be like, you can't have ice cream for breakfast. And they'll scream and they'll cry. And then you just be like, that's not doing anything for you. What if they're still screaming eight hours later? You're a dangerous purveyor of misinformation. Like, nope, sorry, no ice cream for you, bud.
Starting point is 01:18:00 I used to enjoy my- You're four years old. When did you learn? My parents, I was lucky that my parents would punish kids like that, and they'd just isolate them and make them suffer and cry through the whole thing until they were done crying. But what if the kid keeps crying and keeps crying and keeps crying? They can't forever. They used to beat the kid. They can't.
Starting point is 01:18:15 They eventually run out of cries. They need ice cream as fuel to keep crying. You know what happens when a kid is crying? I'll tell you this. When a toddler is crying, a young kid saying, I want something. And you say, well, you can't have it. And they keep crying and you walk away. You know what they do as soon as you walk away? Stop.
Starting point is 01:18:34 They stop crying and look around to figure out where you went, why you're not giving them attention. Because crying doesn't work. They figure out crying doesn't work and they'll stop and they'll try something else. So you can't – when the baby starts screaming and crying, you cannot give the baby what they want. You got to be a responsible adult and say, no, no, no. Crosby, stop it. Which is exactly – Neil, I understand why you're sad. Which is literally exactly, going back to our earlier story, why the truckers need to stay the course and why we cannot buy their BS about these people being Nazis or white supremacists or whatever because that is their temper tantrum.
Starting point is 01:19:14 Exactly. Ignore these whiny babies. They're like, I haven't slept in five days. And it's like, well, I can't cross the border anymore, so deal with it. Yeah, well, and here's the thing. So if you are one of these truckers protesting, you're actually giving them a good thing in the same way that a parent who ignores their child's temper tantrum is giving them a good thing because these left-wingers who are slandering you and making ridiculous accusations about you, as soon as they start to
Starting point is 01:19:38 realize that those really aren't going to work, some of them, some small minority, maybe even many of them are going to actually try to pursue real strategy for effecting the change they want to see in the world. And I think it's going to make them more responsible adults, and it will actually reorient their goals away from leftism. So you're helping them. I just want to say I don't want to be overly – To become better people. I don't want to seem overly pessimistic on this just because I'm frustrated with these weirdos.
Starting point is 01:20:03 Let me see if I can pull up Joe Rogan real quick on Instagram because I want to show you guys something that's a total white pill. Is it just Joe Rogan on Instagram? Is it going to work? Yeah. Let's see if it works. All right. So where's that post he made? All right. We got this post from him. So one of the most important things about Joe Rogan's statement on Spotify is that aside from people like Tulsi Gabbard and Tim Dillon, who are very obviously fans and friends of his, if you scroll down through Joe Rogan's post, all of these people, tons of people, tons of verified Instagram users, are all like, Joe, we love you.
Starting point is 01:20:37 You're the best. We're on your side. I was reading an article, and it was like, here's a list of celebrities who came out in defense of Joe Rogan on his Instagram post saying awesome things about him. It's like Crosby, Stills, and Nash joining Neil Young. Yo, you guys are
Starting point is 01:20:52 on the wrong side of history as the left likes to say. Joe Rogan's got mainstream. Look at Jewel. You guys know Jewel? She has a beautiful voice. You're doing a great job. She was on a show and it was so good. Yeah, she's good. It's not like she's the biggest celebrity in the world right now.
Starting point is 01:21:08 She's the best. Right now, you have high hopes. Look at all of these verified users. Some, obviously, we know. Hey, Christina Pazitsky. Who's that? Christina P. That's Tom Segura's wife.
Starting point is 01:21:18 Well, there you go. She's awesome. There's a whole bunch of mainstream celebrities. Jamie Kennedy, UFC fighters, who are like, Joe's awesome. Joe is winning this one even when he comes in and can seed some ground there. I'm not a big fan of it, but the point is as much as it's annoying to see – look, you've got Kelly Slater, pro surfer. They're not on the side of these crackpots. We are winning.
Starting point is 01:21:42 Free speech is winning. The right to free inquiry, freedom of association, it's all winning. And as Michael Malice said, when CNN took on Joe Rogan, their president and the host of the biggest show got ousted. So boom. Yeah. Victory. Yeah. How wonderful. It feels great. I can't wrestle with that guy. I think, you know, I saw a news story and it was talking about all of the celebrities cheering on Joe Rogan. And I'm like, that's the message people need to hear. That with all this stuff going down and all of these media outlets being like, oh, Joe did this and Joe did that. And these celebrities are angry.
Starting point is 01:22:14 You've got to see the bigger picture. What are high profile and regular people actually saying? They don't believe in the cancel culture. They don't care for it. They're fans. They love his show. He's got 7.6 million views on his post he's winning yeah kevin james kevin james oh really yeah kevin james and how many new subscribers how many people have never heard of him before before this kerfuffle yes exactly i mean usually this stuff always backfires too which the left
Starting point is 01:22:43 never figures out. So it's like, pick your fighter. This guy who, you know, you have people like, Grandma, wait, who's this Joe Rowe? All right, I'm going to sign up, subscribe to him. Oh, Crosby stole the Nash. Wait, what have they done for the past 50 years? Nothing. So it always backfires.
Starting point is 01:22:59 So he's picking up new attention. He's picking up support. He's picking up new viewers. And it's just completely backfiring on them once again. I was just going to say I can't help feeling that Joe Rogan is right now the voice of populism
Starting point is 01:23:14 which is highly encouraging because to see all these celebrities being on board with him and also to see all the normal people who completely agree with him. Very encouraging. I do think that we are winning on this one. I just want to pull up this one more post to make sure everybody knows. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:27 Oh, boy. From the Associated Press. Amazing. No evidence video color was manipulated in CNN news segment September 10th. And then this post showing CNN's version of the video with Joe Rogan makes him look like he's dying.
Starting point is 01:23:41 He looks like a smurf. He does, yeah. We didn't edit that. No, it's how it looked when we got it. Experts say this was not documented. They're trying to argue that it was like, oh, but people looked on different devices and that's why it looked that way.
Starting point is 01:23:55 I took, I did the experiment myself. I took Joe Rogan's video on the same monitor, same computer and I played the video, I screen grabbed it, and then I took the CNN clip and and i screen grabbed it you can clearly tell they're different by the way i put them into a graphic uh uh illustrator program vectorized the images and then analyzed the color palettes to break it down whoa and you can see it is manipulated dude he literally in the top photo he looks like one of those guys in the artsy hipster part of the city that dresses as a statue and stands around for money.
Starting point is 01:24:29 That is not how a normal human looks without editing. He looks like OJ trying to do his own video, but he's got the camera in the wrong spot. But this is just the point. When all of these mainstream personalities, high-profile celebrities, and regular people are like, like you rock the narrative doesn't make sense when the ap is like there's no evidence and then you look at it you're like yo i have eyes i can see it i know who you're gonna believe uh i'll see your eyes yeah but i one thing i wanted to mention piggybacking off what you said a moment or to respond to what you said a moment ago about the fact that um they don't seem to understand that they harm themselves and their message by going after these people because they end up promoting them. I think the reality
Starting point is 01:25:11 is an infant throwing a temper tantrum or a toddler throwing a temper tantrum isn't all that concerned with the optics. And if they got to the point where they could be concerned with the optics, they wouldn't be throwing the tantrums anymore. But if the tantrum's working, then why do you care? It works at work. Exactly. And they've been spoiled for way too long and people are starting to go, okay, no. I have to go to work. I have to do my job. I'm not listening to this. Think about
Starting point is 01:25:33 what we're watching, right? CNN has a temper tantrum. Joe Rogan responds very calmly and positively and says, I'm a fan of Neil Young. It's great music. Sorry if I made you mad, guys. We'll do better. Very adult, very mature.
Starting point is 01:25:49 The temper tantrum doesn't work. Imagine you're watching. You go to an ice cream shop and you see one kid screaming and banging on the counter, give me ice cream. And another kid is like, mother, if I get an extra scoop of ice cream, I promise to do my chores when we go home. You're going to be like, oh, that kid's very well behaved. And that kid's a little dish little, you know what I mean? That's what we're seeing from the outside.
Starting point is 01:26:09 You're watching CNN have this tantrum and you're just like, they've lost their credibility. But the reason my kids have perpetual, the kids who have the tantrums all the time have the bad parents who respond to it. Right. So that's the lesson. So as a mother, you know, then you don't. You walk away. You don't even gauge the kid. The kids who have the perpetual temper tantrums are the ones with the mom who keeps appeasing them. So this is what's happening there. You're talking about a bunch of toddlers and bad mothers. If you've got kids and, you know, they're complaining that they want something, you've got to make sure you get the paperwork drawn up, that the I's are dotted, the T's are crossed, and you make them sign that contract and you litigate everything.
Starting point is 01:26:47 You say, don't cry. Don't cry. We do the paperwork. You want one scoop of ice cream? Well, I want the dishes done. So sign here. All right. Initial there.
Starting point is 01:26:54 Initial there. All right. We have a contract. Here's your ice cream and we'll get the dishes done. That's awesome. Teach them a good lesson about how corporate world works. Yeah. Really, the longer the image is up, the more astounding.
Starting point is 01:27:04 Like what kind of middle school shenanigans is that like i don't like him so i'm gonna make him look like drax yeah the most obnoxious let's make him look ugly in the picture yeah he looks ugly now dude i remember when i was i i when i first heard the story about how they decided they changed the color i didn't see it from joe i didn't see it from anybody. I was watching the CNN video claiming he took – it says he took horse dewormer right there from – they're lying. And I watched the video and I was like, yo, Joe looks bad.
Starting point is 01:27:34 And then I looked – I don't want that horse dewormer stuff. Right? Right. Yo, it's so insanely obvious what they're doing. I feel like we're all popping out of the Matrix and they're like, stop, no, don't. People just started waking up to the insanity of the alive. I feel bad for regular people who are still trapped in there.
Starting point is 01:27:52 Yeah. And they think they're right because you can trust CNN. But how do they – so let's say it's the case because trying to look at this from the lens of someone who still trusts CNN, and maybe I'm giving them too much credit here with respect to critical thinking abilities, right? But if CNN put this on air and they really didn't edit it, he just happens to look like he's from a different species in it, but they didn't notice that and still want to air with it, that's almost just as bad. Because at the end of the day, you're getting false information as a viewer. So I'm really curious how the people who are diehard fans of this network or who are loyal
Starting point is 01:28:30 to it would respond to something like this. They don't care. CNN told me that they are the most trusted name in the news. Oh, yeah. They told me that too. And to be honest, it might be true and it's a low bar. It is very low. And they told me about that Apple.
Starting point is 01:28:43 Remember that? This is an Apple. I don't remember that i didn't know remember when don was elected right yeah they were like this is an apple it's just an apple or whatever and it's like we're not fake news like we showed you an apple or something i told you it was an apple other building credit i do remember when don lemon was like no it may be preposterous but was the plane swallowed by a black hole i know and then and then the plane swallowed by a black hole? I know. And then the lady on CNN goes, well, even a small black hole would swallow the whole universe. I'm not kidding.
Starting point is 01:29:12 That actually happened. And I'm like, yo, first of all, there's no way a black hole swallowed the airplane. Second of all, a small black hole would not swallow the universe. The entire universe or else we wouldn't have a universe like that. Or we wouldn't have black holes. One or the other. This isn't that complicated. Do you think the jet got swallowed up?
Starting point is 01:29:28 Hold on. Let me just... I kind of feel bad right now because we get more views than CNN does. We're punching down CNN. Oh, you're right. We're bullying CNN. We need to help them. No, how?
Starting point is 01:29:39 We need to pull up the ladder. This is constructive. We should bring CNN on the show to help them get the word out about their channel and maybe they'll get more subscribers. Oh my gosh, bring John CNN on. The man himself. Zucker has no ties now. Maybe he'll come on and speak all for us.
Starting point is 01:29:55 He'll be like, I did the Photoshop. It was Microsoft Paint. He wants revenge on Chris Cuomo now for costing him his job. Chris did that Photoshop. He's been messing with Premiere a lot lately. What if he came in
Starting point is 01:30:07 with a big stack of documents and was like, here's everything. Oh my. This is all like furry fanfics. Wrong stack. It's weird.
Starting point is 01:30:16 It's like, oh, everyone. That's why I went wrong. On every story they've ever run, they have the truth. It's like, when you write the news,
Starting point is 01:30:22 you write it and then they write the fake version and archive the real story and then publish the fake one and they're like well so remember that one story about trump here's the actual story we actually do a reference yeah for reference well it's because they want to know the history you know what i mean exact you know so i i thought about how crazy it is with all the fake news think about how it's going to impact history oh i know people are going to believe the lies forever it's going to impact history. Oh, I know. And people are going to believe the lies forever. It's going to be 100 years, and they're going to be like, Donald Trump was colluding with
Starting point is 01:30:48 the Russians. That's right. I know. And that was CNN. Remember, CNN was the first network on January 10th, 19... What year was it? Not 19. 2017.
Starting point is 01:31:00 January 10th, 2017. They ran the... I think they won an award for it. I think they won a Pulitzer Prize about the dossier and the briefing that Jim Clapper did with Trump and with Jim Comey to tell them about the Russian P-tape, right? Oh, that's right. So this really launched the P-tape, the dossier. BuzzFeed also published it that day.
Starting point is 01:31:23 But CNN was responsible for really launching Russiagate and legitimizing it, saying that Clapper and Comey had met with Trump and alerted them that they had compromise on Donald Trump. And so that's where it started. So this is good karma. Also, middle school behavior. I'm going to say something peed on him. Like complete complete nonsense.
Starting point is 01:31:45 Like, complete disgusting nonsense. Totally depraved. How insane was that? It was absurd. Hold on. Do you remember the story from the Huffington Post where it was like, a tape exists of Trump somewhere doing something? In an elevator. Where he was, we don't know.
Starting point is 01:32:00 And what he did is you were unsure of. But he did it. But journalists know it happened, and they're trying to find out what. But again, millions of Americans still believe that that happened. They still believe that there's a tape with Donald Trump at the Moscow Ritz with prostitutes urinating in front of him. They're like, yeah, that tape's there. Well, hold on. I got to be honest.
Starting point is 01:32:20 I honestly do believe that Trump will have done something like that in his life. But whether it's an actual tape of it and the circumstances they've proposed, well, that's outrageous. Right. Well, the reason it works is because Donald Trump is a crazy guy. Yeah. Well, yeah. No. And that's why people believe.
Starting point is 01:32:36 That's why. He's got a golden toilet, right? Does he? I don't know. Yeah. Doesn't he have a golden toilet? Yeah. In Trump Tower.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Yeah. I heard that. CNN says. Yeah. So, well, I want to say one thing. It's good for your skin. You mentioned history, and it's true that there are probably a lot of things in our history books that were just part of media propaganda, and we believe them today. However, I will say this.
Starting point is 01:32:53 The New York Times tried as hard as they could to cover up the whole of the more, and that still came out. The New York Times also very much underreported on the Holocaust. That still came out. So I think it doesn't always happen. It doesn't always happen it doesn't always happen but i really genuinely believe that when we need it the truth does come out but but but seamus think about what you just said and think about the new york times lying to get us into the middle east they're still around no i know times they are done all of those things true and people are
Starting point is 01:33:22 still like i'm gonna read the new york. But that's also... Maybe you shouldn't. I agree with you, but I think a big part of that was because prior to the internet, your average person who was aware of these lies because they found them through research
Starting point is 01:33:31 couldn't point them out. Yeah. And it was hard to find... It was hard to research because they were the arbiters of morality and truth. Exactly. But now we are
Starting point is 01:33:39 in a different age and information has been decentralized. So with that being said, smash that like button. Honk the like button. One like is one honk. Yes. And we're gonna go to Super Chats. So don't forget to subscribe to this channel, share the show if you'd like to support our work, and go to timcast.com. Become a member to directly help us out. Make sure that we can
Starting point is 01:33:58 keep doing the work we do. And we're gonna have a members-only uncensored podcast going up around 11 p.m. tonight. You're not going to want to miss it. Now, let's see what y'all have to say in the super chats. I think there's a lot of honks. Yes. Wimplow says honk. All right. That's a good super chat.
Starting point is 01:34:13 Yep. Yep. All right. Bobby Bob says good luck to the counter protester. I don't think they will be able to be heard. You know what's going to happen? The counter protesters are going to show up and they're going to have like lefty signs like saying down with fascism or whatever. But you're not going to be able to hear a word they say as the horns are honking.
Starting point is 01:34:28 So everyone will assume they're actually part of the same protest. Like what are they going to do? You know what I mean? Everyone's going to be, hey, look, more people showed up. All right. Recrimorsan says it's cold up here. Hong Kong needs hoodies and tokes. Yes.
Starting point is 01:34:43 Oh, we should make a free Hong Kong sweater. Yeah. Oh, Jessica did. Oh, she did? Yeah. Hey. She's looking at how much they're earning. They're doing great.
Starting point is 01:34:51 And she made a hoodie. Oh, and she made a hoodie? Yeah. And stickers. I kind of want to – I don't know if we can do it in time is the issue, but I wanted to send a bunch of the hoodies up to people. Yeah, that's a great idea. But I don't think we can get them made in time is the issue.
Starting point is 01:35:01 Oh, maybe not. Because it takes like several – it takes like three weeks to get them all, to get them shipped and sent. Because if you do a big order. But, you know, if you need a hoodie. Free honk honk. Do they do flags? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:35:14 I want to get a free honk honk flag. Oh, that sounds good. Yeah, that'd be fun. We'll put, we'll like, we'll put up a flag post and like put it in front of the castle and just like have this big flag that says free honk honk. Free honk honk. All right, let's read some more Super Chats. Christopher Knowles says,
Starting point is 01:35:28 Blackstones, would you rather? Would you rather imprison an innocent person for a crime committed by a criminal or imprison a criminal for a crime that never happened? Is it? Oh, I see what you're saying with Blackstone's formulation. Yes, Blackstone's formulation.
Starting point is 01:35:43 I guess I'd rather imprison the criminal for a false crime other than the one that he committed than an innocent person for a crime that he didn't commit. Neither. That's confusing. Go with neither. Yeah, neither.
Starting point is 01:35:54 Oh, I didn't know that was an option. It's always an option, Ian. It's always an option. I refuse to play. You can reject a false dichotomy whenever you want. Yes, do it. I don't want to see you held hostage by these kinds of hypotheticals. All right, Bill Cox.
Starting point is 01:36:05 I care too much about you. Bill Cox says, Tim, if the military intervenes without proof that the protest is no longer peaceful, they're in violation of Section 2 of the Canadian Charter
Starting point is 01:36:12 of Rights and Freedoms, Right to Peaceful Assembly. Honk. Yes. Yeah, but I don't know if it matters at this point. Right. I mean...
Starting point is 01:36:19 That stuff doesn't matter. Right. It doesn't. January 6th is a really great example of it not mattering. It doesn't. As Seamus mentioned, they went to the White white house they tore down the barricades they set fire to a guard post they set fire to the church across the street the president was was rushed down to a
Starting point is 01:36:34 security bunker injured federal agents federal agents they laughed that's right exactly and then when aoc like literally made up a story, they're like, oh, she's so brave. You know what? Regarding the- And let's remember, too. AOC lied about that entire story. She made it up. But isn't that telling, though?
Starting point is 01:36:54 Isn't that telling, though? There's something very interesting here. When Trump actually had to be rushed to shelter, he was in a vulnerable position. He didn't advertise that because I think real leaders know you should not advertise your vulnerability, whereas AOC wants to appear as a victim, which is why she can never be a good leader. And let's remember what happened after Lafayette Square. They didn't call those people insurrectionists or traitors or whatever. Congress held two hearings against the police about what happened in Lafayette Square.
Starting point is 01:37:24 All the rioting charges were dropped against those people, and they were attacking federal officers on federal property, leading to- In front of the White House. In front of the White House, trying to jump over the fence. But they held hearings in Congress, not about the insurrectionists, but about the police and how they behave. People were literally trying to break into the White House.
Starting point is 01:37:44 Do you think you might have overreacted there in your response? Right, remember that? It's insane. Yeah, the press briefing. We got Matt Price. He says, shout out to the guy that does Common Sense Soapbox. If y'all know who that guy is, you should get him on the show. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:37:57 So Common Sense Soapbox is a second channel I have. It's a collaboration between myself and the Foundation for Economic Education. We just try to do educational cartoons about economics. So we just released a video yesterday, which is the second part in a series we're doing trying to illustrate the absurdity behind the philosophy that led to the lockdowns, illustrated through an analogy where characters are on an island. So I'd highly recommend you all check that out. All right. Reclaim the Frame says, if Trump were to win office again, do you think he would pardon those charged for january 6th um oh i'm sorry i just stepped right in there i thought it was my question um probably it is your question i i believe that i believe that he
Starting point is 01:38:36 i don't know he says stuff and then he doesn't do it exactly no it's hold on hold on let me back up here um i think that he probably will for well well, he'll go with his friends first, anybody who got in trouble. And then I'm sure hopefully he will pardon the people who were charged with the lower crimes. But I think he'd have a hard time pardoning anyone who was charged with attacking a police officer, that sort of thing. Even those charges are sketchy too.
Starting point is 01:39:02 He's got one. If he gets reelected, I guess, or he gets elected again, that's probably the way to put it. He doesn't have to worry about a reelection. So he can just, he's off the leash. He's going to be like, rubber stamp, baby, I'm doing what I want. I hope so. I mean, he left a lot on the table. He left us, he created a lot of problems and he left us with a big mess. And I'll say this. Even though Trump has certainly not kept all of his promises,
Starting point is 01:39:28 he would probably see it as his prerogative to make an example out of the people in the deep state who went after him and his followers. So I think there's some reasonable hope that he actually would pardon. I have none of that hope. I don't like the superhero worship. I think he's just a corrupt dude that wants power. Sure. But even feeling that way, I think the deep state is such an obvious enemy for him that it would be a really straightforward move if that makes sense. But they'll just kill the president when they try and oust the deep state.
Starting point is 01:39:57 Like Kennedy, if you try and take out the FBI director who's been there for 40 years, they're like, no, no, this is my government, dude. You're only here for eight years. As much as most people probably look at the JFK thing and kind of like roll their eyes left and right, it is still getting a bit speculative. We don't know exactly what went down with any of that stuff. The official story is one guy did it all. And then that story is nuts.
Starting point is 01:40:21 I know, man. It's really interesting. They found Oswald up in the school or something where he worked. Depository or whatever. But it was like 40 minutes after the execution, and they found Oswald eating lunch in the building. Then upstairs in the same building, they find his rifle with ammo. He's just chilling. As if he put it there.
Starting point is 01:40:36 What idiot would assassinate a president and then leave his gun and walk? He was hungry. He's like, what are you doing? I'm a patsy. I'm being a patsy. I think he loaned the gun to a group that had been doing some like pro Castro stuff. And they were like, hey, let us borrow your weapon. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:40:49 Yeah, I don't know about all that. But I will say this. When somebody assassinates a political leader, especially the president of the United States, like they usually make a big deal out of it and tell people what their political demands are. They leave a manifesto. So what happened here? Very strange. It's a very unusual situation. I don't think we have the time right now in Super Chats to
Starting point is 01:41:07 litigate the entire U.S. JFK document. I'd love to see Trump go after the deep state, is my point. I just don't see it happening. But I'd like to see it happen. Well, I'll just say, whatever ends up happening in the future, I hope everybody stays safe. And I do think we always need to remember that the honking is working. Non-violent civil disobedience is extremely effective.
Starting point is 01:41:24 The establishment politicians are freaking out over the great honking is working non-violent civil disobedience is extremely effective the the establishment politicians are freaking out over the great honking and we have a chance with the upcoming primaries to get in a bunch of uh america you know pro-america individuals who push back on the establishment i think that should be our focus so let's read some more yeah all right jay says the honking reminds me of that of that of the hype that came with Untitled Goose Game. Someone should alter that game's logo to take the circle cross out, fly the honk, and confuse the sheeple. Have you guys played the Goose Game? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:53 It is one of the best games ever. You play as a goose and you just run around causing mischief. You are a goose? You are a goose. On what platform? Every platform. Oh, okay. I mean, it's a
Starting point is 01:42:05 it's like a video game yeah it's uh it was like an isometric top down yeah and there'll be like it's like a guy and he's farming and you run up and just like honk at him and he gets scared and then he drops his pail or whatever and then you run around there's like a little kid and you can chase him honking and the kid's freaking it's it's just so much fun to be the goose honk everyone loves saying honk too because honk was already a meme, and now people are honking, and it's like, honk. Honk. Honk.
Starting point is 01:42:29 Honk. All right. Vasht says, I mean, if you want the honking to stop, you just got to stop the mandates. You don't even got to think about it, bro. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Trust the experts.
Starting point is 01:42:41 You know, the truckers know what should be going in their body. Yeah, that's right, man. I like what you said. Just comply. Nathan says, heading into work, wanted to get a shout out to Anna for our second wedding anniversary. Oh, that's lovely. Good for you.
Starting point is 01:42:55 Warms my heart. RVDL says, hornk. Let's get back to work. All right. AWM says, I see Ian rolled a 20 on his first statement. Oh, I felt that too a 20 on his first statement. Oh, I felt that too. It's critical.
Starting point is 01:43:09 You ever play D&D? Julia, have you played D&D? I did not think she... If you roll a 20 on a 20-sided die... This side of the table is for the people who... It's a critical success. I'm sorry. No. No.
Starting point is 01:43:17 I avoided those people. So basically... You're way smarter than I was. In D&D, if you want to do something and you roll a one, it's like the worst possible failure. Okay. And then if you wanted something and you roll a one, it's like the worst possible failure. Okay. And then if you wanted something and you roll a 20, it's like, you've done it.
Starting point is 01:43:28 It's perfect success. So the joke is, Ian made that he often makes statements that are either a one or a 20. Oh, well now you tell me. I'm all in. I swing to the fences every night.
Starting point is 01:43:37 All right, now I'm going to have that. I'm going to say it before we're done. We're going to get a one or a 20. Mm-hmm. Yeah, we'll hit a 20. Hit a 20.
Starting point is 01:43:44 Hit a 20 every time. Can I give a quick shout out to your biggest fan, Liz Sheld, who is also my podcast partner. We only have a few million less listeners than you do. But she listens to your show every day and she told me
Starting point is 01:44:00 what I had to wear today. Oh, what, the free, the one-sixers? Yes. Well, actually she wanted me to wear an ACDC shirt or Van Halen. Oh, sweet. I had a Def Leppard one, but I wore this instead. What's the podcast? What's the show?
Starting point is 01:44:12 It's called Happy Hour with Julie and Liz. It's just basically to amuse ourselves. But she loves all you guys. Awesome. All right. Let's read some more here.
Starting point is 01:44:22 There's my free promo for her fandom. Right on. Camel of the Mojave says, Karl Marx got old and acknowledged that capitalism solved all the problems he complained about when he was young and as people not to pay attention to his manifesto. Is that true? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:44:37 It sounds like something somebody would say to smear a person they didn't like. I don't know. I don't know. That makes it sound way cooler, to be honest. Yeah. It does. But didn't people say a bunch of stuff about a bunch of figures like well actually conversion story type things are pretty common yeah yeah all right cox says one like equals one honk
Starting point is 01:44:58 honk from saskatchewan stand together and we will free our children in the last five months i have gone out zero times besides work and this yeah all right you're here all right let's see we got daniel says ian's ai reddit poster idea was a cartoon skit worthy there's like one robot it's like brainiac from dc who's like i will control reddit to control the world. It's not far left. Why would you want to control Reddit? Superman like breaks into Brainiac's headquarters and he's like, Brainiac, what are you doing? I will control Reddit and take over your planet. And he's like, no, I can't stop him. It's working.
Starting point is 01:45:40 All right. Phil Cohen says, Tim, do you recall when activists seized the Canadian railways in 2020? Reservations were demanding RCMP, not police reserves. Reservations were demanding RCMP, not police reserves. But were the upset with lack of policing? Look where Trudeau stood. I'm not sure I'm understanding it correctly because of some grammatical issues, but I do remember when there was a big protest with the reservations and all that stuff. I mean, it's just obvious that there's great double standards here. I mean, you know, you've got to think about it, bro. Yeah. Eric Miller says, look up Mao's The Grape Leap Forward and compare it to The Great Reset.
Starting point is 01:46:19 A lot of similarities. Yeah, they actually, someone pointed out that they're actually calling this year one or whatever. Like, was that Pol Pot year zero or whatever? Yeah, year zero. A lot of similarities. Yeah, they actually, someone pointed out that they're actually calling this year one or whatever. Like, was that Pol Pot year zero or whatever? Yeah, year zero. A lot of them. Are they really? Who's calling this year one? People were saying it's like year one, you know, after the pandemic or something.
Starting point is 01:46:35 I believe it. I was thinking about changing the year to like 13,000 and making zero the day that the comet hit. What? 12,800 years ago when the comet hit north america there's so many stuff which end of the younger dryas period no which comet was the one that caused the missoula flood but that was what's what's the name i don't know the name of it because i i probably could remember know what you're talking about by the name because i read i was reading something really cool that they were saying that like uh gravitational shifts aided in the slamming of the the
Starting point is 01:47:02 you know the meteor that killed the dinosaurs or whatever crazy stuff who knows though we are we are but small specks on this planet thinking we know so much all right well I know so much I don't know about you guys says Tim you're right about the Democrats being desperate I saw
Starting point is 01:47:20 an ad on YouTube today featuring Pelosi begging for money because Republicans are out raising and out spending Democrats that is correct money for what because Republicans are out-raising and out-spending Democrats. That is correct. Money for what, though? What are they spending this money on? Political ads? 1.6 billion, for instance, that Biden raised. Oh, Biden? Yeah, on ads. Just TV ads?
Starting point is 01:47:36 Ads. It's mostly advertisements, but there's also consulting. Consulting. That's where it gets like, it's such trash. Like, hey, how you doing? Good. Thanks for, how are you doing? Thanks for consulting. Yeah, where it gets like, it's such trash. Like, Hey, how you doing? Good. Thanks for, how are you doing? Thanks for consulting. Yeah. But,
Starting point is 01:47:47 but political consulting is real. They'll, so they'll call a firm and be like, we're trying to get, you know, middle-class white men. What do we do? And they'll be like,
Starting point is 01:47:54 so we've got data from the past five elections. Here's what we're seeing. Here's the media. And they pay for it. But a lot of it's ads buying advertisements. And that's why when Michael Bloomberg bloomberg was was running it was crazy youtube ads youtube ads was just oh everywhere we did a cartoon about that for freedom tunes yeah oh that yeah that that was crazy they were really everywhere it was like
Starting point is 01:48:16 if you're on youtube you were like all of a sudden i have a lot more money than i should have had because michael bloomberg dumped what like 500 million dollars. It was like 100 million to digital. But when this this this I'll tell you this. You guys this election season is going to be so intense. 2022 YouTubers in the political space are probably going to make like three or four times as much money as they normally do. Really? Yep. Every every ad slot will be filled.
Starting point is 01:48:40 It's going to be nuts. And then but it's going to be nonstop for in the middle of this year. We are going to see political ads like it's it's's going to be nuts and then but it's going to be non-stop for for uh in the middle of this year we are going to see political ads like it's it's already going to start probably i mean you're talking about nancy pelosi already the midterms are this year so from like this point forward we're going to see a dramatic increase in revenue for all youtubers and all websites and then 2023 is presidential primary and it is so intense right now it is going to be be – I mean, we're talking about fifth-generational warfare. We're talking about propaganda warfare. It's going to be crazy.
Starting point is 01:49:09 You know, I was feeling – Money is the fuel for this. Is people going to be smashing the – getting the silverware and bailing off the Titanic? That's what that makes me feel like, people scraping for ad revenue, talking about politics. Well, because it's not just congressional races. I mean, you've got governor's races in every major state, you know. That's right. In the Midwest, in Florida.
Starting point is 01:49:27 I mean, you've got Georgia. So it's not just those congressional races. I mean, people are going to be inundated. I wonder what Republicans are going to spend all that money on, though. That'll be interesting to watch. Ads, billboards. But where? I mean, it'll just...
Starting point is 01:49:43 Super Bowl commercials, I don't know. Just what they're doing what their message is going to be where they're going to target it that'll be interesting i don't know dbz dragon says rating constitutional law has taught me one thing it is important to read your bible but why is that huh why is that shamus do you have any insights on why that might be with constitutional law i mean why why why that would lead someone to say, read the Bible? Yeah, like Blackstone's formulation. That's true.
Starting point is 01:50:08 Yeah. That was. That's part of it. You know, when I read that, I was kind of like, wow. Yeah, well, Jordan Peterson talks about how the Bible laid out how it was possible for a slave to have as many rights as a king, which is one of the things that they did put into effect. This is one of the laws laid out, even in the Old Testament, which to let loves to knock.
Starting point is 01:50:25 Brian Beattie says free honk-a-stan. Free honk-a-stan. All right. Matthew Hammond says, can we get Mark Levin on to discuss Convention of States? He wrote the book The Liberty Amendments that discusses
Starting point is 01:50:40 what needs to be passed in a Convention of States. I'd love to. I mean, he does his own show, but he's on Sundays though, right? I think so. I mean, I would be honored. That'd of states. I'd love to. I mean, he does his own show, but he's on Sundays, though, right? I think so. I mean, I would be honored. That would be great. It would be an honor and a privilege. Antonio Gonzalez says,
Starting point is 01:50:53 Borg, Bolsheviks operating for repressive governments. I love it. The Borg. A Borganization. That word came into my thoughts the other night. Bobby Bob says, The year is 2030. The resistance is pinned down.
Starting point is 01:51:05 From over the hill, Lily Williams appears on horseback. Robes flowing in the wind. Gold AR held above her head. Freedom! She rides down the hill and the battle is won. Oh my gosh. But how old is Lily? It's 2030.
Starting point is 01:51:18 It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. No, she will be there. She is fine. She's never going to die. I didn't say she wouldn't. I'm just saying, is it going to be Cyborg Lily? Definitely.
Starting point is 01:51:28 Fair enough. Yeah, she's on my mom's page. She's going to be like, she's going to have like a cyborg, you know, she's going to have like a laser gun on her arm and one eye, and she's going to be like, I am freedom. Yes. Williams. Clint Torres says, go lick a boot.
Starting point is 01:51:46 Now there's a t-shirt. Go lick a boot for our Canadian friends. That's hilarious. Go lick a boot. So many good t-shirt ideas. Maybe we can get a website like, you know, the really best
Starting point is 01:51:59 political shirts dot com. The second best. Second. The second best political shirts. No, maybe like even better political shirts dot com. Or like better than that other guy's website.com. That's too long.
Starting point is 01:52:08 Better than the other guy's t-shirt website.com. Perfect. Tiger says, you wear a mask for so long you forget who you were beneath it. V. Well, actually,
Starting point is 01:52:20 I'm pretty sure it's Alan Moore, but still a good quote. Molon Lave says, it's not just January 6th defendants. It's also a two-way community with arbitrary ATF rule changes. Gun tuber CRS firearms was just arrested and charged with seven felonies for a drawing machine gun and obstruction for getting married. Please look into it and spread info. Whoa, that's crazy. Dude, I'm telling you guys
Starting point is 01:52:45 it is going to get really, really bad this year. It's going to get really, really bad. They're going to go after soft targets first. Easy, you know, political activists,
Starting point is 01:52:53 members of the 2A community especially, they're going to do everything they can to try and shut these voices down. People in media will probably get censored
Starting point is 01:53:01 but it's really, really risky for authoritarians to go after prominent voices because it creates a splash and that can create a massive ripple in dissent. So what they'll do is when you look at the censorship on Twitter, here's a really easy way to understand this. All of the regular people with small accounts who are tweeting, learn to code, we're getting banned. When I tweeted, learn to code, nothing happened.
Starting point is 01:53:20 I tweeted, learn to code several times. Like, let's see it. Come on. They wouldn't, they wouldn't take me down for doing that because it would prove everyone right. But the smaller accounts that had no, that didn't have that many followers were disappearing one by one. And I met a lot of people at these events. They were like, my account suspended. All I did was tweet learn to code because if you're, if you're, you know, if you don't make a big splash, they'll come after you. That's the, that's, that's the crazy thing. And what they do is they erode the base. Then in five five years when the base is substantially weaker then they can get rid of you know everyone else all right darius says tim i think you may have missed mine or i miss you talking
Starting point is 01:53:55 about mine last time but look into crs firearms arrested for selling bottle openers with diagrams of auto sears really it's like arresting someone for sharing knowledge. Crazy. That's crazy. That guy says, I can't help but notice that the latest CNN scandal headline repeatedly uses the word consensual. I guess they're trying to push the new narrative
Starting point is 01:54:16 that at least the newest scandal wasn't criminal. Yo, how many scandals do they have now? So many. That's kind of crazy. Well, I tweeted that I really thought it would be the lies that took CNN down, but apparently it was going to be a mass inability to keep their freaking pants on. Yeah. Disgusting.
Starting point is 01:54:34 Isn't it crazy that far-left people aren't really sexually immoral? I don't know. All right, we got it. That's crazy. Hugh says, long-time listener, Tim, love your content. You help me find meaning in this meaningless world get kim iverson on your show again we have had her on the show and i think we're gonna have her on the show again right yep yep she she is the like moderate lefty person who
Starting point is 01:54:56 recently tweeted she's voting straight ticket republican because she's sick of the mandates and i'm just like wow there you go man more and more people are like, I am done with this. We should have her and Batya together. That'd be really cool. That'd be so great. Super cool. Artindi says, hey, Tim, I saw Will of the People and it inspired me to turn it into a mini video game. It can be played for free in browser on itch.io under the same title. Hope you all enjoy it.
Starting point is 01:55:19 Oh, you want to check that out, Ian? Yeah. Itch.io, Will of the People. What is it? Itch.io? Itch.io, I the people what is it itch.io itch.io i-t-c-h so we're uh we're working on a sequel to will of the people called pain and we have a lot of the instrumentation done already i just got the uh a mix and uh i i probably shouldn't say it but i'm just gonna say it anyway
Starting point is 01:55:39 i i hit up phil labonte and asked him if he wanted to help with the the lyrics and the vocals and he said yes so i don't know if he can, though. But that would be really, really cool. It would be an honor and a privilege to be able to work on a song with the legendary Phil Labonte. So that would be super cool. It's a video game, you said? Yeah. What do you do in the game?
Starting point is 01:55:57 I don't know. I don't know. I'm just looking at it now. It would be cool if it was a text adventure game. I like this from back in the day. Oh, yeah, like Zork. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:56:10 Deliopolis says, Tim, why does your impression of Chris Wallace sound like your impressions of Mitch McConnell? Because they're both turtles. They're the same person. Right? How would you do either of them, Seamus? You know what? I don't have an impression for either of them, if I'm honest. Seamus can't do it.
Starting point is 01:56:20 I can't do it. He just doesn't have the skills to pay the bills. Look, I have the skills to pay the bills. I can't keep giving it away for free. Oh, that's fair. That's fair. Honestly, I haven't heard either of them speak in a while. They're just turtle voices. They're just like turtle boys, kind of like that.
Starting point is 01:56:35 That's what Chris Wallace. They just talk like this, kind of. I'm Mitch McConnell. I'm Mitch McConnell. Am I not McConnell-y enough for the McConnell Club? To be honest, Chris Wallace is more turtley than Mitch McConnell is. But when I do Mitch McConnell, I make him very turtley. He looks like a turtle.
Starting point is 01:56:51 Because I have just, like, disdain for the man. Yeah. Well. All right. John Witten says, all they have to do is park the trucks nose to tail, side by side, lock the doors, and walk away. And it would take the government a month or more to clean up the mess. Oh, man. Yep. up the mess. Oh man. That's no joke,
Starting point is 01:57:07 man. Rob says, did you forget the rock also commented on Joe's post? Come on, Timmy. Yeah. The rock man. It's amazing to see that that's victory,
Starting point is 01:57:18 man. When the rock, you know, when the rocks, what's, what's the saying? What's the rocks cooking or whatever. If you can smell what the rock is.
Starting point is 01:57:24 Yeah. Can you smell what the rock is? I smell, can you smell what the rock is cooking? I smell it today, Rocky. Freedom! I think. I don't know. Or he wants to go on the Rogan Experience. No, I think what's happening is these celebrities are relatively vapid individuals, but they're realizing Joe's winning.
Starting point is 01:57:35 And so they're like, yo, I'm going to be with him. We always love Joe. What are you talking about? They're like, if I'm going to do a new movie, I need to go on his show. I'm going to be nice to that guy yep uh bon johnson says tulsa oklahoma frozen over and my boss told me the roads were clear saw cars smashing a divider wall turned back i got stuck a mile from our house currently walking back home and watching the show hey man don't don't freeze to death stay safe try that dragon breath breath that vim ho Hof method if you need warmth.
Starting point is 01:58:05 Is that the secret? Yeah, sharp inhalation, then a strong exhalation. Breath of fire, yeah. You do that for like a minute straight and your body temperature is up. Apparently, you go into like a psychedelic trance. You do it for like six or seven seconds and your body temperature will kick up, yeah. Michael Williams Jr. says, more honk honk talk about American Convoy. I want to see it.
Starting point is 01:58:25 Honk honk. Honk honk. Honk honk. more honk honk talk about American Convoy. I want to see it. Honk honk. Honk honk. Free honk honk. Click the link in the chat. Free honk honk. Go to TimCast.com. Click the store and get your free honk honk shirt. It's kind of hard to say if they're really enunciating. Otherwise, it sounds like you're saying free honk honk. I know. That is what I thought you said. Free honk honk.
Starting point is 01:58:41 What's happening in Hong Kong? Free honk honk. It's got to be declar? What am I missing? Free hunk. Hunk. Hunk. It's got to be declarative. I got a shout out up there. Where? Someone said Jordan Peterson's the man.
Starting point is 01:58:52 Yes. Ridiculous said it. Thank you. It's not obvious. So you know that AI that can generate someone's voice? Mm-hmm. Like they made one of Joe Rogan. They took it down.
Starting point is 01:59:03 But that's actually kind of crazy. If I was someone like Jordan Peterson, I would be really scared of people like Seamus because Seamus could say a bunch of crazy things and then just put it on a video and claim it was Jordan Peterson. That's what I do. Everyone would believe it. Really? That's what I do, yeah. Yo, this is – I want it.
Starting point is 01:59:17 Whoa, whoa, whoa. I just saw this. Tony says, Dave Portnoy is officially suing Julia Black and Business Insider for defamation in response to the most recent hit piece published today with Penn earning call tomorrow. Dave Portnoy, you're the man. I wish you victory and great fortune in going after – I read that story. It was absurd. I heard what Dave said. Yo, these people are unscrupulous.
Starting point is 01:59:43 They publish fake news and defamation, and they think they can get away with it. And I'm glad to see Dave is pushing back. Don't screw around. These people should not be screwing around, and I hope Dave wins. They smeared him. It's been a while since I read the story, but it was just so dumb. They do these things where, like, someone claimed it was true. Therefore, it is.
Starting point is 02:00:03 And then he came out, and he was like, hey, I can rebut this. And they don't take his comments and stuff like that. It's all dirty, dirty games, man. All right, everybody. If you haven't already, smash that like button because one like is one honk. Honk, honk. Go to TimCast.com. Become a member.
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Starting point is 02:00:57 We taught her about a goose game. That's good stuff. Exactly. So thank you guys for having me. So I'm going to plug my stuff here I guess I have to be careful to make sure
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