Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #462 - GoFundMe SEIZES Freedom Convoy Funding, 71 Joe Rogan Episodes DELETED w/Enrique Tarrio
Episode Date: February 5, 2022Tim, Ian, Luke, and Lydia join former chairman of the Proud Boys Enrique Tarrio to discuss GoFundMe's despicable actions with the funds for the Freedom Convoy, the 'security experts' warning of terrib...le financial catastrophe from the Freedom Convoy, Spotify's apparent deletion of Rogan podcasts to appease the left, and the Democrats panicking over Jeff Zucker's scandal. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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After freezing the GoFundMe for the Freedom Truckers twice, GoFundMe has now announced
they will no longer allow any money to come in for the Freedom Convoy and get this.
They are taking the money and will work with the organizers to decide where it should go
to a legitimate charity that they verify.
So for everybody who's donated to the truckers, make sure you spread the word to everybody
that they're holding your money and they're going to give it to a charity that they confirm.
Everybody's saying, oh, what does that mean?
Black Lives Matter?
Yeah, probably.
Maybe not.
I don't know.
But you can ask for a refund.
They're announcing and give a refund.
A lot of people are saying that this is, some people have said it's fraud because you've
given money for a specific reason and them blocking it as a third party is interfering in the exchange. In which case,
some people have said, do a chargeback instead because you're not getting what you paid for.
A refund is totally different. But look, I'm not the expert on how all that will work other than
we can see the statement from GoFundMe. They've shut it down. People have switched over to Give,
Send, Go. The trucker movement is growing and we've got a bunch of other really big news. see the statement from GoFundMe. They've shut it down. People have switched over to GiveSendGo.
The trucker movement is growing and we got a bunch of other really big news.
The US Freedom Convoy on Facebook was deleted, the group, and the person who set it up was banned from Facebook. We've got statements from the press and GoFundMe saying, oh, it was violent
and crimes are being committed. They are scared.
They are pathetic.
They are losing.
And so just a lot of big news around this stuff.
We've also got, get this, today, 71 episodes of the Joe Rogan Experience have been removed from Spotify.
I have reached out for comment, have not heard anything.
So it's a story.
They did this on Friday.
I'm not surprised.
We can't really figure out why these particular episodes were pulled.
Michael Malice tweeted that two of his episodes of The Rogan Experience are gone.
But there's also like Kyle Kalinsky got taken down.
So I wonder if this has something to do with things that Joe may have said.
Maybe we'll get answers.
I kind of don't think we will.
We'll talk about all of
that stuff. We got to talk about the January 6th committee being devastated, according to CNN,
over Zucker getting ousted. Why? Because we now know that CNN at the highest levels,
and it's not just Cuomo, Chris Cuomo, but they were working with Andrew Cuomo on his entire
COVID pitch to become a national figure. The collusion runs deep.
They know it.
And now they're scared.
They're losing it.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's like that scene in Starship Troopers when Doogie Howser puts
his hand on the giant bug and goes, it's afraid.
And everyone cheers.
That's what's happening.
So we're going to talk about all this.
Joining us today to talk about all of this and January 6th in the jails in D.C. is Special Agent Tario.
Thanks for joining us, Special Agent.
I find that a little
offensive, you know.
Special Agent? No, actually
I find it offensive that people call me
Informant because
after doing two years at Quantico
it's Special Agent.
They shouldn't lower
me to that standard.
And now everyone is going,
oh, he just admitted it.
I mean, they're definitely going to clip that.
I'm joking, and Enrique is joking.
But Enrique, do you want to introduce yourself?
Well, my name is Enrique Tarrio,
and I am the former chairman of the Proud Boys.
As of Wednesday, I've stepped down from that role.
And I got arrested a little bit before uh January 6th I did uh almost five months in uh the DC gulag and
I'm just me but we're going to talk about all that stuff because uh what it was like in the
jail what's going on with a lot of the january 6th defendants you know the things they said about you what's just the the this year is getting crazy man
it's gonna get really crazy it's already crazy it's it's the beginning of february and we're
already seeing like joe rogan getting episodes pulled we're seeing the freedom convoy this year
is gonna get lit we also have luke redkowski because Seamus got scared and started
crying like,
and then he ran away. Don't worry, guys. I'm going to
keep you safe from that Irishman. Anyway,
I think it's only going to get crazier
this year, and I think it's indicative that a lot
of this major news is breaking on
a Friday. The will of the people is being
undermined by some very powerful,
despicable entities,
and we're here to call it out. Thanks for having
me. You want to support me? You can by going
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where you get the shirt that I'm wearing right now
that says, Let's Go Brandon. That's the person
that I'm going to be voting for in the next election.
I'm writing him in. I hope you do too.
They're going to be like, that's a Democrat
vote. That counts. We know what you mean.
Probably. With the way that things
have been going. Maybe I've been away for a while, but what does Let's Go Brandon mean?
Oh, come on.
It's a famous NASCAR guy that everyone really likes.
And he's running for president?
No, no.
He's just a really good NASCAR guy.
See, this is a great story, actually.
This guy Brandon was being interviewed by, I think, ABC.
And the crowd was screaming, F Joe Biden.
And the reporter goes, they're yelling, let's go, Brandon.
And so there it is.
Let's go, Brandon.
It's a mean phase.
I mean, that's the state of things right now.
Yeah.
Basically.
Clowny.
Dude, I'm glad you're here, Enrique, because I heard that you got arrested in D.C. for possession of a weapon.
And I find out today from you, fake news.
It is.
It is.
And the way that that works is left-wing outlets will say, well, he got caught with a firearm,
with a gun.
He was driving across DC.
Independent outlets, the very small amount of them that we have, will pick up that story
without comment.
And then right-wing outlets will go ahead and they'll write it too.
But the truth is, no, I did not get caught with a gun. I didn't get caught with ammo. I got caught
with what DC considers to be high-capacity magazines, which is your standard 30-round
magazines that come with your AR. In Florida, there is no such thing as high-capacity magazines
in Florida. You could buy a drum. I could walk around with a
magazine in my hand and nothing happens
to me. But cross that border
into D.C., it's actually a felony.
Wow. Unloaded.
Unloaded. Yeah. It's a piece of plastic
with a spring in it.
We'll talk about all that. We got Lydia
Pressenbottom. I'm also here in the corner. I was going to say I got
very strong Ralph Northern vibes when
GoFundMe was saying they were going to set the funds aside and decide what to do with them later.
That's a little sketchy.
I don't like that.
Hopefully get to the bottom of it tonight.
Thievery.
Yes.
Fraud.
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make sure you're giving to their give, send, go and not buying from us.
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you're supporting the message
and you're supporting our work.
If you really want to support the truckers
and I encourage it,
go to their give, send, go
because GoFundMe is seizing their money basically.
And go look for these people
who are doing these live streams on the ground. So Viva Fry, for instance, special shout out. He's been on the ground working really,
really hard doing amazing live streams. I supported him earlier. You guys can support him as well.
Many people have shouted out Portland Andy. I'm not familiar with Portland Andy, but anybody on
the ground covering this, breaking through the lies of the mainstream media, which we're going
to show you, I want to give a special shout out to all these people.
And I'm sure there's many, many more, mind you.
But those are the ones that I mostly know about.
Let's get into this first massive story.
I could not believe it.
I mean, honestly, I could believe it.
It's just crazy.
GoFundMe posted on Medium their statement on the Freedom Convoy.
They say, GoFundMe supports peaceful protests.
And we believe that was the intention of the Freedom Convoy fundraiser when it first started.
We now have evidence from law enforcement that the previously peaceful demonstration
has become an occupation with police reports of violence and other unlawful activity.
When was occupational Occupy protests considered to be violent or not allowed. I seem to recall the the Chaz, the Chop Chaz, the autonomous zones.
What about the autonomous zone in Minneapolis?
Did they shut down any of that stuff?
No.
Black Lives Matter and Antifun, these groups are still fundraising and making money.
Surprise, surprise.
They say to ensure GoFundMe remains a trusted platform.
We work with local authorities to ensure we have a detailed detailed factual understanding of events taking place on the ground.
Let me just tell you this, GoFundMe, you have lost all trust.
Well, you lost your trust a long time ago, as far as I'm concerned.
I can't believe anyone would have used GoFundMe at this point.
If you, here's what you do.
Tell each and every person you know passively, just be like, oh, GoFundMe?
Nah, they're bad. Don't use them. Just really, really awful. Use Give, Send, Go. Here's what's
important, though. They say, given how the situation has evolved, no further funds will
be directly distributed to the Freedom Convoy organizers. We will work with organizers to send
all remaining funds to credible and established charities verified by GoFundMe.
All donors may submit a request for a full refund until February 19th, 2022,
using this dedicated refund form. Well, I'll say this. If GoFundMe is like a payment processor and they intercept your funds that was supposed to go to someone, I don't know if maybe they've
got things in their service, like we're allowed to do this, whatever. I assume they are because they hold the money first and then transfer it.
But this seems like there's some kind of deceptive practice here that they do to take money from you.
If I say, Luke, I would like to buy some of your mental jewels or whatever the hell that thing is, and you say, okay, and then Ian takes my money and says, no, I'm it to lydia instead i'd be like wait what yeah if you're like hey how do you do that hey ian give me give
luke this 20 for me i'm gonna buy those jewels i'll be like yeah sure tim and as i get the 20
i'm like hey lydia can i buy that coffee for 20 bucks yeah i'm gonna give you 20 and then they
come to why didn't you ask for a refund and i'll be like dude i was sitting here waiting for luke's
mental jewels what is that that? This is Mark.
Actually, Mark Loban actually gave me these, sent me this and a whole bunch of other supplements.
Loban.
He sent me a whole bunch of supplements.
Yeah, yeah.
Definitely read them.
Make sure you're not allergic to anything.
I look over at whatever Luke's got on his side. I got a whole bunch of drinks.
They are, by the way, mental jewels.
There's got to be something that the SEC can do there.
I mean, they've cracked down before on GoFundMe.
It's like if I started GoFundMe and I said,
hey, I'm going to use it for X and I use it for Y,
I know that that's highly illegal, right?
But for GoFundMe to do it,
I think that that goes into the SEC territory.
Yeah, they should not be able to reappropriate funds, I think that that goes into the SEC territory.
Yeah, they should not be able to reappropriate funds.
But I'm sure they have in their terms, I'm pretty sure they do, that if something happens and the project or whatever fundraiser is shut down, then they take the money.
I'm pretty sure GoFundMe does say that.
They shouldn't be allowed to do that, period, though.
If I say I want to give this money to a cause, they should not be allowed to reappropriate it it should just go back automatically refund well gofundme has been becoming increasingly political and this move is just absolutely absurd this is theft this is
people being robbed of their money that they wanted for specific cause and then they're going
to be redistributing it for causes that they believe in, that they align with, which most likely probably is going to be Marxist, leftist ideas and organizations.
Robert Barnes, a very prominent lawyer who was on this broadcast before, said that this
is fraud and there's grounds for a class action lawsuit here.
Since, of course, again, how can you say that this is not political, especially when GoFundMe
has been used in so many different political ways, especially when people were punished and attacked whenever they go against the establishment
on GoFundMe.
There is more than enough evidence to show you that this is a hyper-partisan organization
that is not there to raise funds for any charity.
They are there for power.
They are there for a political cause and nothing else. And they will stop anything
stopping in their way, including good people who want to give their money.
So if you go to givesendgo.com, you will likely encounter a crashed website because everybody's
rushing over there to support the truckers. I don't know exactly what the official fundraiser
is. There is one on the front page trending that says adopt a trucker and it's they've raised 213 827 canadian
dollars from 2 178 people when i try to go to it unfortunately it's just crashed so and there's
another thing to consider here because you know this tim and i know this uh as well because i've
been running my own online business whenever you email all of your customers there's a percentage
that of course never get the message whether it's an email whether it's a direct message whether even if it's a message on your own platform there's going to be
a number of people that never hear about this notification never open that email and their
money is going to go to whatever political cause gofundme wants to give so there's going to be a
lot of money here that gets redistributed in a way that it's absolutely bastardized and disgusting.
A majority of people aren't going to know this happened.
Exactly. That's what I'm saying. And it's not going to be a small fraction. It's going to be
a significant portion because whenever I try to send out messages to my members, it's only a small
portion that actually do open the email, do actually read all the latest updates
and important things that they need to know. Tim, let me ask you, I mean, I haven't really
been keeping up with this, but did you say that they have to fill out a refund form?
Yeah. In order to get the money back? Well, I'm going to suggest something. Anybody that's
listening to this show, instead of filling out that credit card process, I mean, that refund
form, what they need to do is they need to call in uh their bank and do a charge back right um because i don't think there's anybody
that knows a credit card though right if it's a credit or debit card it doesn't matter yeah they
could you could you could you could do a charge back um because it's really it's services not
rendered you're you're paying for a service so i could give money to the truckers but then they're
going to give it to like some other cause um some other virtue signally cause that for sure you will never
give money to. I don't think there's many people that know about the credit card industry as much
as I do. And the reason why I tell you that, because I've been banned off of everything and
I've had to find new ways to process payments on my 1776 stat shop.
And one of the tactics was that they'd go ahead and they'd get chargebacks in order
for the credit card processing.
Yeah.
It costs you $35 each time they do it.
Wow.
So if they pay $21, if they pay $21 for a shirt, they're going to refund $21 and then
you're going to have to pay $35.
It's kind of like an overdraft fee kind of thing there's also i remember when um i think it was patreon when they
banned i think i think it was owen benjamin he said he wanted to go to arbitration or whatever
and every single person who got shut down because patreon basically interfered with like several
hundred people or thousand people and him all of them could file arbitration.
And then Patreon was panicking because that would mean they'd have to front the cost of arbitration.
So it was like millions of dollars.
I don't exactly remember what happened with that.
But yo, there's $10 million Canadian.
There's like 8 million US.
I don't know how many people donated, probably tens of thousands.
But I don't know if they could handle,
if that's, you that's tens of thousands.
It could cost them a million bucks or more.
It could cost them theoretically around $8 million if everyone did a chargeback.
Yeah, and we should also kind of speculate why this is happening.
Is GoFundMe just doing this because they don't politically align with the people in Canada, with the truckers or is the Canadian government and other powerful forces, whether multinational or big
banking, coming to them and saying, hey, you got to get rid of these people or we're going to shut
you down or we're going to make sure you can't operate your business because this is a huge
setback for GoFundMe. There is no logical business reason for them to do this because they are
shooting themselves in the foot and isolating a huge
public from ever using their platform ever again. I'm never going to use GoFundMe. I did use them a
couple years ago. Never again in my life will I ever be using them because of just how blatantly
political this is. Why did this happen? I think there was probably speculating here, pressure
from the Canadian government saying, get rid of this.
We need to stop the funding.
We need to stop these protests.
We need to stop the voices of the people in Canada immediately.
So, but one of my questions is, and I want to be fair here, like, what did these truckers do?
Did these truckers, like, are they slamming their trucks into something?
Are they, do they got like Nazi flags?
Are they calling for the government to be overthrown?
Let's – we got to be fair, okay?
We got to be fair and call it out when it needs to be called out.
These truckers, they did honk their horns.
They did honk, honk.
And that is a capital offense.
I mean that's off with their heads.
So says the queen. I mean I'm kidding by the way. They did nothing. I mean, that's off with their heads, so says the queen.
I mean, I'm kidding, by the way.
They did nothing.
I mean, it's a bunch of guys in trucks.
Yeah, but just even a few days ago, we had the Ottawa City Councillor come out,
and she demanded that GoFundMe stop this particular fundraising event
because it was, according to her, a pipeline of funding to unlawful mercenaries.
This is the language of an Ottawa city councilor literally making public statements demanding a private company stop the voices of the people.
And that to me is for sure.
It looks like GoFundMe got political pressure. You guys, if not from the Stripe payment system or the Swift payment system, I should call it Stripe.
It's weird that the Stripe and Swift are so similar, but Swift is the big one.
I'll tell you the situation here, and it doesn't have to do with their credit card processor.
They're working in tandem as far as their views go.
I can tell you this problem that we're talking about today, we knew about this problem three years ago.
The first time I used GoFundMe where my GoFundMe got shut down was during the events of Hurricane Harvey in 2017. Our funding goal, it was to do direct
water rescues. And we're only asking for like $1,000. We raised like $1,200. We passed the limit.
And they froze the account. They never gave the money because it just had the Proud Boy name on it. It wasn't because of anything to do with anything else,
anything nefarious or anything like that.
So I've been screaming about GoFundMe for a long time.
GiveSendGo has been an excellent platform.
But I know that they changed their credit card processor
because they were using Stripe's system.
And they wanted to keep funding some of these J6 political prisoners.
They wanted to keep funding their campaigns.
But the problem is that Stripe called them and Stripe said, if you don't stop doing business, if you don't shut down this campaign, we're cutting you off.
Stripe did?
Yeah.
Not Swift? No, they were using using stripe at the time and you know as a business owner you know they
have to continue to work so they had no choice but to shut it down they changed after that they
changed their credit card processor and uh it's been chill um there's another company by the name
of our freedom funding that did the opposite.
So they're like, oh, we could fund all your causes.
And as a matter of fact, they stole $85,000 from my family fund, right?
From my family.
It wasn't like my fund.
And then from Joe Biggs' defense fund, I think they stole a grand total out of $70,000.
They stole about like $35,000 out of
his funding campaign. So like you have nowhere to go. You have no representation, right? You have
no money. And this guy comes out of the blue and is like, I got this website that you could
fundraise on. And then he steals your money. Yeah. That's my problem with non-centralized
donation services is they're insecure.
If some, like Craigslist, you know, good luck trying to do anything with any oversight.
Like at least with Give, Send, Go or GoFundMe, you've got some sort of recourse to get your money back.
I kind of want to bring it back to the truckers because I think we have to examine what did these truckers do?
I can tell you.
I can tell you, actually.
We have this story from Global News Canada.
A few nights ago, we read the Toronto Sun that claimed the truckers were far right,
racists, you know, Nazis who stole food from the homeless.
I kid you not.
Check this one out.
Security experts concerned about possible threat financing tied to trucker convoy.
What?
They say Canadians ought to be worried about whether crowdfunding websites could be used to finance hate groups and other extremist organizations,
financial crime and security experts warn as the so-called freedom convoy enters its second week
of protests in Ottawa. Hard questions are being asked about a GoFundMe campaign set up by convoy
organizers and whether
any of the $10 million raised so far might have come from malevolent sources keen on
wreaking havoc in Canada.
Security experts also say they're worried about the lack of transparency surrounding
the fundraiser and whether any of the donations could end up in the hands of hate groups or
people who promote hateful ideologies, including people who attended
the protests carrying Nazi flags and the flags of known terrorist groups.
Oh, heavens.
Well, they basically say, well, there's, let me read this quote.
The way that we're sort of talking about this now, this event is sort of like an extremism
event.
So I would argue that this sort of a component of extremism financing this is
said jessica davis a financial crimes expert and president of insight insight threat intelligence
yo working class people standing up against tyrannical government are being called terrorists
ian you were saying about 9-11 jessica davis is like it's sort of like a sort of a thing sort of so no it's
not you're saying actually but this is such slander such vicious destruction of of the truth
there was like i think one or two guys with some weird flags they got kicked out of a rally when
they were there by the protesters these are blue collar individuals realizing that the entire system
collapses without their participation and they're being vilified.
They're getting attacked on things that they have never done.
And it's just mind boggling to see this this huge full frontal assault with blue collar people representing the will of the people.
There's new poll numbers coming out from Canada, specifically highlighting how the majority of people in Canada want to get rid of all restrictions. So far, as of today,
Denmark, Finland, Norway, the Czech Republic, the United Kingdom dropped all of their COVID
lockdowns and restrictions. Canada wants to do the same things. The people there want that same
thing. The truckers there are trying to push those policies, and the government, instead of hearing out the people,
meeting them halfway, seeing what they actually want,
they're just calling them racists and attacking them
on things that have absolutely no merit at all,
which is disgusting.
Absolutely disgusting behavior.
It's disturbing, dude.
No merit in truth at all.
I knew they could do this, this weird slander thing,
but I didn't know,
I didn't know when I was like 25 or 30,
how intense and relentless it could be and how they just keep using the word
terrorists,
extremists.
What are these other words they were using in the,
in the reasons for canceling this stuff?
They use these buzzwords.
Hate,
hate's another one.
They use these words,
hate groups,
hate.
So it's just pure fascist
manipulation. They're losing. I know, but it's what do they do when they're losing?
They go super saiyan. Yeah, you got to watch out that they don't-
You say super saiyan?
Yeah. Watch out that these crazy militaries don't go insane because they think they're losing.
They are losing.
They are losing.
The best strategic win that's come from this trucker convoy. And it's not really the protest. I think the strategic
win for them is how the government's reacting to their protest. It's not what they're doing.
Because, I mean, I'm a person that believes that things got to get a lot worse before they get
better. And there hasn't been, and again, I haven't really been keeping up with this. I've heard. But to date, there hasn't been a clear way where you could see the government's overreach than we're seeing with the Canadian trucker thing.
We've seen this here. When it comes to Canada, we're seeing this manipulation of not only the media, the government, that city council that says that they're mercenaries.
That's where the real win is.
It's the exposure that the Canadian government is getting from it.
Yeah, I agree.
It's the first time I've ever seen the Canadian government completely oblivious and ignorant of its populace.
That's usually government always, from my perspective, from the way I've been seeing
them. But, you know, this is
not a surprise here, but this also speaks
to the true power
that these truckers have and what kind
of threat they are to the
establishment that they're pulling out all
these stops, all these incredulous
stealing people's money.
I'm just flabbergasted. So, I was on Reddit earlier. I'm on Reddit all the time. I'm just so i was on reddit earlier i'm on reddit all the time
i'm just browsing through it and it's a it's a leftist propaganda machine don't get me wrong
and i saw this image this image this is from george alexopolis we have several of we have a
bunch of his art up on the walls here in the studio because he's incredible and he has this
really really great he's been doing these satirical
cartoons mocking the mainstream media and this one shows a trucker convoy but the trucks are
wearing clan hoods and and with tiki torches or something and there's a sign that says
facism like fascism but it's spelled wrong and And then it says like, oh, 106 miles.
So he's clearly mocking how the media is going after the truckers. This was on Reddit on r slash
pics. And I thought it was hilarious because it was getting upvoted to the top of the page. Like
people were actually, I think it's because they use bots to upvote leftist propaganda,
but whoever put it in didn't realize he was making fun of them. And all the comments were like,
this is the
stupidest thing i've ever seen i don't understand they spelled fascism wrong the truckers aren't
fascists all of the comments were like this is a workers uprising these are regular people and i
was like whoa dude why why are the commenters like not part of the propaganda machine like
they're they're they they realized what was going on in the lies i guess they removed the post maybe once they realized it was making fun of the mainstream media but to see the comments
on reddit understand this is this is a bunk idea and the truckers are good and they're hard-working
people standing up for their rights that was kind of surprising absolutely and when you see the
larger kind of implications here there's no demands by the truckers that have anything to do with any kind of larger
political ideology. Instead, it's all about getting rid of the restrictions, the lockdowns,
the VAX mandates, and specifically the border restrictions, which would hinder and disrupt
the global supply chain. Why is Canada implementing a VAX passport system on the border,
disrupting the global supply chain more
than it already is disrupted. It's a situation that has absolutely no merit, no science behind
it, no data. People realize it's bunk, it's idiotic. The UK government and many other governments are
not following any of this bull crap anymore. And the people are there saying, we're just sick of
it. We're done with it. We want our lives to return to normal. That's what they's what they're asking for they're not left they're not right i haven't seen any major kind
of larger political ideologies other than stop with this nonsense stop trying to control our
lives that's all i've seen yeah i saw one report the truckers are saying they'll stay until may
yeah they'll just they'll just hang out and and these people that are claiming they're like
keeping up at night apparently that's not true i was listening to viva fry's live stream and he went around talking to people and they said they
stopped blowing their horns around 10 p.m because the truckers realized they're not protesting
people and so he basically just said that they're just they stopped around 10 and then the the
assumption is yeah the truckers don't want to piss off regular people but they're putting out
these lies to the best of their abilities. And then you look at these social media platforms and they're actually arguing
that working class people rising up against the machine are the fascists. Dude, it's not working
anymore. CNN, the implosion, the narrative, the lies. It's kind of crazy because this is an
election year. Last year was kind of chill because it really wasn't there were some elections and now in the first in the first month we get swatted twice right we're getting we're getting
cyber attacks and now you've got the the popular this this populist uprising and the establishment
just goes nuclear and destroys instantly all their credibility like their credibility evaporated so
quickly among regular people i was surprised to see it.
So you're big on having law enforcement in studio, huh?
What do you mean?
With getting swatted.
Well, they came in the first time.
And now bringing me on.
Who was that?
And now bringing me on.
You know, I think they swatted us because of Marjorie Taylor Greene.
But I'm like, I don't care.
We're going to have her back.
She came on the show?
Yeah, and we're going to have her on again.
Oh, that's great.
It's insightful.
I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her. I missed her're gonna have her on again it's great it's insightful yeah i missed her to listen to how that's see that's what they're mad about that's what they're mad about because she explains how these people in congress don't
actually do their jobs they just leave and like they don't know but no one even votes they do like
just they uh they say yay or nay and they sound so similar the words yay and they sound so similar
so it's like i can't wait to do this joke i'm gonna do it's gonna be so good okay everyone in favor yay everyone against me the is have it and then
bang it nobody knows who passes they vote with their voice dude in congress maybe you already
know that no no no but it's not just that it's like there's only 10 people there's like there's
only 10 people sitting there going like yeah okay next next and they're just
approving and sliding things through that they never even read yep and they're making things
into law affecting people's lives destroying their livelihoods destroying their existence
giving us more bureaucracy with something that they don't even understand that special interests
literally write up for them give it to them and they just pass it on through and make it law
that's how a law is made special Special interests literally just create their own rules.
That's the laws we're living under, especially with what GoFundMe just did right now.
I think there's also a reason that they did this on a Friday evening because, obviously,
people are tuned out.
People aren't paying attention.
People are out trying to go out and have a drink and party and relax and forget about
the work week.
I think they're trying to make sure that this doesn't get a lot of attention,
but freaking,
you know,
I just,
I just want to just say this.
If you're not following George Alexopoulos on Instagram,
you need to follow G prime 85 on Instagram.
Cause he gets his,
he gets his art pulled off of Instagram every so often.
And his jokes are just 10 out of 10.
And I can't even, I can't even show you some of them
because they're edgy.
They're really funny.
It's really, really great.
G Prime 85?
G Prime 85.
We actually have his art with Joe Biden
using the force lightning
and vaporizing a crowd of people.
It's just really, really funny stuff.
I saw that picture of the trucker convoy
with the KKK helmet on or whatever.
And I was like, oh, what is this trash propaganda?
And then I looked down and I saw G Prime.
I was like, yeah.
That's what I thought it was when you guys pulled it out.
He's got another one.
I don't think I can – I was thinking about showing it.
I'm like, I can't.
That one's spicy.
It's good.
But I got to say, his latest drawing I think may be his greatest work yet.
Yes.
And it's about the truckers.
And I saw people
tweeting it not realizing he was making fun of the media and i was laughing for like 20 minutes
straight that's how good it is and it's so offensive that youtube probably won't allow us
to show it that's so i don't you follow g prime 85 seriously it's it's that good but let's talk
about what's happening here in the united states we We got this from the New York Post. Facebook removes Freedom Convoy page of truckers against VAX mandates. They say a protest organized
a Facebook page organizing a protest of U.S. truckers against mandates has been removed.
And you know what Facebook said? The group's convoy to D.C. 2022 was removed Wednesday for
violating policies around QAnon what remember when julie
kelly was here and she was like wait until they claim q anon's there oh yeah they're doing it
she nailed it she was ahead of the curve on that one so um u.s truckers want to do a convoy they
want to go i think it's from like west coast to dc we're really close to dc so we would be we
would have people on the ground covering it if it were to happen.
And Facebook shuts it down.
They ban the guy who – this is what was reported, the guy who set it up, just a regular Facebook profile.
They banned him too.
They really do not want this to keep happening.
It is like – it's like Occupy Wall Street but like for real.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Like AstroTurf lefty garbage.
Well, in the beginning, it represented an idea that unified the left and the right and people who just wanted accountability from the banking system that was truly controlling our way of lives, especially after the 2008 financial crisis. major time in our existence where a lot of people are realizing that they were conned,
that they were lied about, that they were screwed over, and they want some accountability. They want some justice. They want their lives to have some kind of normalcy and have a semblance of it.
And I think truckers are the backbone of many countries, including this country. They're
realizing it and understanding that they have collective power. This idea has caught on in
Australia. It has caught on in Holland. It has caught on in Holland.
It has caught on in some ways here in the United States,
but it's being stifled so this idea doesn't grow,
as, of course, the big tech corporate monopolies are making sure that this idea is constrained
and, of course, doesn't expand to the point where it has expanded in Canada,
where they have already done many actions that have led to a significant conversation
that the establishment does not want to have right now.
This is a crazy year already, man.
Yeah.
You know what I want to do?
You know what I'm imagining in my head as Luke's talking?
I'm just thinking about Chicago on a warm spring evening.
I'm in a nice second-floor apartment.
Walk over to the couch, turn on the TV, put on a movie.
Our friends are all there
and we order a pizza and some wings and we're sitting there and we're talking about nonsense
just having a laugh and you know it's the way things used to be back in the day and now it's
just you know it's so chaotic everything is politics everything is is conflict it's getting
crazier there's no moment where you just turn on a show and try – I mean there are these little moments here and there.
I was watching Batman earlier just trying to like just get away from everything.
But I saw as I browsed Reddit again, there is a subreddit called Nonpolitical Twitter because our culture has – pop culture is just politics at this point.
It is everything.
Are there like five tweets there?
Yeah, it's five.
And they're like, I found them finally.
Probably five individuals just being like, there's five. And they're like, I found them finally. Yeah.
Probably five individuals just being like, hi, the weather's okay.
Even the weather is becoming political.
It is.
Especially in Texas, especially with our energy and infrastructure policy.
It's cold in Texas, so it's the apocalypse.
And Ted Cruz.
They're like, Ted Cruz is tweeting about Cancun again.
And it's like, oh, shit.
And every day is a major news day.
Every day something significant happens to the point where if you even tune out for two weeks you will be totally lost and not understanding
of what's really happening in our modern society could you imagine going to jail for like four
months i was about to tell you guys while i was in there all i had was like an rss feed to like cnn
that's it the fox news rss that's bad the fox news rss feed just doesn't work. It's just a blank page.
And I missed
so much. Everybody came out and they're like,
hey, did you hear about this? Did you hear about
that? And it's
overwhelming to try to catch up
to it. I'm trying for
since January, and I know
we're going to get into that a little bit later. Since January,
I eat, sleep, and breathe
like J6 cases.
I'd listen into all the court cases, take a look at all the arguments.
And now just to catch up, it's impossible.
It's overwhelming.
I get home and I'm like, okay, I'm going to read about this.
And I'm like, you know what?
I'm not.
I'm just going to disconnect and I'm just going to relax.
Did you have access to information while you were in jail?
Just a CNN R rss feed so basically
just not even news yeah nothing i had three i had three forms of uh to read the media the news the
rss feed from cnn i we'd get the washington post and then there's this local dc newspaper that
would it was we i'm sorry it's weekly uh dc And two of the pages, two out of the 10 pages were written by Louis Farrakhan.
What?
I have it.
I have it.
I'll send you guys a picture.
And that was the only way that you got news.
I'm imagining this and I'm like trying to get news in your circumstance would be akin to like crawling through the desert starving.
And someone comes with a big basket of fruit and you're like, oh, thank you,
and you bite into it.
It's wax.
It's like it's not even food.
That's CNN.
I'll be honest.
It was a little refreshing.
It was a little refreshing
to not be locked in that 23-hour-in-one gulag,
but it was refreshing
to where I'm not like constantly worried about
the state of the country.
Like I'm in the worst part of the country and I was only there for a short time.
But if the only media you could consume in there is that, you know, and then the education
program.
What was that like?
Oh, dude.
Again, we'll get into that a little later.
Was it like woke?
No, super woke it was it was just and i i i wrote down uh i broke down the entire curriculum for the education program by bias uh by um biographies uh and i'll tell you about that a little bit later
but yeah there's a huge huge bias it's it's it's it's a
machine in there lag bro well so this is why facebook nukes the the organizers but here's
what i want to say about that you know i'm actually kind of grateful that our generation's
elites are some of the stupidest mother effers you know ever because if we had like actually competent elites
they'd be manipulating and controlling everything
and you wouldn't even notice
but these are like the grandkids of
the you know they've inherited this world
as the elites from the past generations
and they're just really really dumb
it's like the inbred royalty
they're just like too stupid
to realize what's going on and so they they're like, what do we do?
They're organizing again.
Quick, ban their profile.
And they ban it.
And now we're talking about it.
Now it's stress and affecting.
They didn't know that was going to happen.
So my only thought process is like they can't be that dumb, can they?
Unless, unless it's on purpose.
They wanted the convoy to get more attention.
So they ban it on purpose.
That way we talk about
it and it gets bigger but i can't believe that it's just i don't think they're that smart i think
they're really dumb people yeah i think you're right i think there's some gymnastics to to really
get that going i mean i think there's an effort to try to conceal everything that's why this was
done on a friday i think there are a lot of really dumbass
individuals that are put into positions of power, especially inside of the government.
But I also think there is a super intelligent kind of elitist group that do arrange a lot of
these zombies into a position that benefits them greatly at the cost of everyone else.
So I think what's happening right now,
it's really hard to quantify in many elements
because things are moving so fast and so rapidly.
It's hard to even get a consensus
of exactly what's going on here.
But it wouldn't surprise me
if these were uncalculated, desperate moves
made by desperate individuals
who have a lot of people losing faith in them.
A lot of people are saying,
I don't trust the government.
The government lied to me.
The government screwed me over.
The government locked me down.
The government took away my job.
The government took away my social life.
The government took away my form of existence.
The government wants me in a pod eating bugs
on VR virtual reality,
and I don't want to live in that kind of life
where I have no privacy.
I don't own anything,
and I'm allegedly going to be happy.
No, I don't want that kind of existence. I wish I had VR. Wait, wait, wait. I can allegedly going to be happy. No, I don't want that. I wish I had VR.
Wait, wait, wait.
I can get VR in my box.
Oh, that'd be cool.
You're saying you don't want to live in the pot and eat the bugs?
No.
What are you, a racist?
That's the talking points that we're probably going to be hearing in a few days.
Would you be allowed to have an Oculus when you were in jail?
Would they give you one?
Jesus.
Jesus. No. allowed to have an oculus when you're in jail would they give you one jesus jesus no it was it was an educational tablet with like trump man bad how he's killed democracy how the uh
i can't say it on the show but uh about that about vaccines about the election and things like that
uh very very very log bro yeah you're literally a
gulag it was really hard not to get programmed it was really really hard not to get programmed
would they ask you to like repeat what you were reading and like now tell us the things that we
i had you read i should have brought it i have i have a uh in the education program they they
gave me like a piece of paperwork to do and and it said, how to identify your unconscious bias.
Wow.
That was the entire – and again, I'll send you guys these documents.
That's like re-education.
Yeah.
And that's the only media that you could consume.
Were you alone?
Were you in isolation?
Yeah.
For the most part, I was in isolation for the first three months. Then the U.S. Marshals had come in and did that whole press release about the conditions being unlivable.
And I fired the alarms on that.
I went to court.
And then after I went to court, they rolled out the red carpet.
They sent me to this unit.
But I was only out of the isolation for about 10 days before guess what came by Joe Biden
Omicron oh and then what Omicron 23 and 1 again back to ISO by when you're talking isolation is
that literally it's you alone in a small room you alone in a small room for 23 hours a day
and towards December they pushed it even more where they'd only let you out for 15 minutes a day just to take a shower and come back in.
You have like a light bulb?
One light bulb or something?
Yeah, a light bulb.
And then books?
Do you get books?
Wow, you get a whole light bulb?
I get books, yeah.
And here's the thing.
I'm thankful that I have such a great family and such a great support system.
People would send me books, but there's a lot of people that didn't have books.
What's with these people in there now for J6?
Can people send them stuff?
Yes, you guys could send them books.
They have to be through a certain process, like Barnes & Noble, through the USPS system.
And certain books will get them.
Yeah, you could send them letters, but they get the letters.
Here's the thing.
It was January, and I was getting mail from September.
So it's a hit or miss.
Sometimes it'll take three weeks.
Sometimes it'll take four months.
I want to give this whole story from start to finish its own opportunity.
So let's talk about what's going on in media, and then we'll make our way to the full story of what's going on with J6 and everything.
We have this tweet from Michael Malice.
Check this out.
Because we're just talking about Facebook censorship.
So in light of that, we have Michael Malice tweeting, Spotify has deleted two of my Joe
Rogan appearances.
Michael, did Spotify delete it?
Did Joe delete it?
We don't know.
He says both of the episodes are pre-COVID.
This website checks for you.
So if you head over to jremissing.com, you can see right at the top, Gad Saad, gone.
Mike Ward and Pantelis, gone. Michael Malice, Kyle Kalinsky, Tom Segura, Michael Malice, Theo Vaughn,
Peter Holmes, wherever it says new, there are 71 episodes that have been removed. TJ Kirk,
Aubrey Marcus. Was the Theo Vaughn one recent?
The Theo Vaughn is not.
No, I don't think so.
It's 925.
There were two.
Then there's a more recent one from 1141, actually.
Yeah, so he had a recent one pulled, too.
Well, it was about a year ago.
Relatively recent.
Like Gad Saad was 240 episodes ago.
So this is quite some time ago, like a year plus.
But you can see all of these are removed on the 4th.
Spotify has removed these episodes.
I think it's fair to say.
But the question is, why have they removed them?
The point I was making about Michael Malice is, did Joe agree with these removals?
Did he disagree with them?
Why are they removed?
And so far, 113 episodes have been taken down.
Now, this is Joe Rogan's show.
He can do whatever he wants with it, right? If he wants to get an episode down, fine.
Here's the challenge. It's kind of strange that there's a website dedicated to tracking episodes
of some dude's podcast. But the issue is, as I was talking about earlier, the whole world is just
conflict. Everything. Pop culture is conflict now. I just want to curl up on the couch, put on some, you know, DC show or movie,
watch Batman fight the Joker, have some pizza, and then wake up in the morning and go just walk
around, maybe go to a restaurant, get some pancakes. But you can't do that anymore because
you turn on the TV. Everything's politics. Everyone is politics. Everything, everything.
So what's happening is Joe Rogan has become effectively, you know, the tip of the spear, one of the most important
cultural information centers. And it's not about him telling you facts and stuff like that. It's
about him having conversations that allow regular people to kind of understand the world.
So when Spotify bends the knee or Joe does to the woke mob who won't let up,
as I've already stated, when they announced the misinformation policy
and they gave a grain of sand, they're continually giving ground to the left.
The left will not stop.
What happens next?
The next day we get announcement.
Oh, this podcast is pulling.
Obama is saying he's not going to do anything anymore.
They're angry.
The prince, you know, who is it? Prince William and Megan, what's her face? They're like, we're not going to do anything anymore they're angry the prince you know who is
it prince william and megan what's-her-face they're like we're not going to make a podcast
either even though they haven't and i'm like and then crosby stills and nash and i'm like giving
them what they ask for doesn't make them stop now spotify has pulled 71 more episodes maybe it was
joe who pulled them regardless it's not going to make them stop yeah you don't concede to the
demands of delusional idiot idiotic, crazy people who just
want to censor speech.
And a lot of people don't just see this as a podcast.
They see this as a last stand for free speech.
And with these latest developments, I mean, this is troubling.
This website was started because originally when Joe Rogan moved from YouTube to Spotify,
there was allegedly an error that was happening with some of the more controversial videos and interviews that didn't port over.
Joe Rogan made a statement about this, said that they would port over.
They never did.
There's this website.
Now, there's more videos that are gone, memory hold, and no longer in existence.
And people are left with some very serious questions that I think we should have some answers to.
Now, again, probably Joe Rogan is going through
a tremendous amount of pressure.
I could only imagine what he's going through
behind the scenes of things that we don't even know.
So what's really happening here, I don't know,
but it's a troubling development,
especially when 71 videos, 71 podcasts get...
Why these episodes? It's a troubling development especially when 71 videos 71 podcasts get why these episodes
it's a bunch of his friends i think it's because he doesn't want to implicate them in the drama
no i mean no no because no michael mouse has several appearances i think is for only to get
removed yeah but this is our and hold on a minute if that were true he didn't remove any of my
episodes is he trying to get me in trouble? You're not dramatic, Tim.
You're so smooth and cool.
But, I mean, it's a lot of episodes.
It's 71.
I think, I honestly think that this woke mob has been satisfied with taking down 71 episodes.
It's a lot.
I don't think so.
Satisfied? I think it's only the beginning.
No, I think they're satisfied.
It's a taste of blood, and they want the whole enchilada.
He didn't take down Dr. Robert Malone.
He took down Gad Saad and Michael Malice and Kyle Kalinske.
And Sam Tripoli, Brian Redbrand, Ari Shafir.
No.
I wonder if this has more to do with what Joe said on those shows as opposed to what the guests said.
No, definitely it is.
And here's the thing.
I was joking about that.
The thing is that their target isn't Joe Rogan episode number 1,000.
It's Joe Rogan that they want to take out, period.
And, I mean, so many – this is like we're so behind the curve on this.
Like we've been screaming this.
And I get why people don't like the Proud Boys.
I completely understand and I respect their decision not to like us.
I get it.
But once they took Alex down,
then they took us down, right?
And they took down everybody in between.
They're just not going to stop.
And I think we're getting to that point
where they're banning the truckers on the other front.
They're banning the truckers now.
And before that, they banned Alex Jones, the Proud Boys, and everybody else in between.
We're getting to the point where it's getting so extreme that there's conversions coming from this
because regular truckers probably aren't political.
Now they're like, okay, they're against my people.
Now I'm going to go to the Capitol.
Yeah, I think I know what this is.
When you go to jremissing.com, you can see a big portion of all the new ones.
It's when you get to the top, they start spacing themselves out like 963, 925.
There's a big gap of almost 40 episodes there.
Then 912.
Then 100 episodes, 810 to the next one, right?
Yeah, I know where you're going with this. episodes 8 10 to the next one right yeah but you go down to the beginning and it's like 4 20 21 27
40 42 48 50 55 57 66 72 that's back in the crude days when they back when joe was saying whatever
saying like there's a compilation people have put out of him saying the n-word not using it
saying it there's compilations people have made of him saying offensive things. I wonder if these episodes getting pulled are because Joe himself had said things that crossed
the line or are today no longer considered politically correct.
But even deleting them brings more attention to these videos. I think he's smart enough to
understand, unless this was Spotify that did this, but I think he's smart enough to understand that
if you try to take something off of the internet and hide it from the general public, people are going to go crazy
and then talk about it even more and obsess about it because of that
aspect of getting rid of it. So everything on the internet
is almost permanent, especially when you try to hide it and you have
the Streisand effect take place. But here's a consequence with that is
from now on on it's getting
watered down and watered down and by the time that you know it you're going to get a completely
watered down jre podcast that is like you're not even going to recognize it anymore people
mentioned this when the first when the shift happened when joe first moved over to spotify
there were some questions about whether or not he was going to be edgier or softer.
And a lot of people thought he was going soft because then he started doing these big celebrity
interviews.
He did, I think, like Miley Cyrus and he had like Robert Downey Jr.
But he had on Peter McCullough and Dr. Robert Malone.
He's had on Alex Jones.
I don't think he's gone soft at all.
However, with this latest massive move, it's been a month-long campaign against them, and they now pull 71 episodes.
When that shift happened from YouTube to Spotify, the official statement we got, I think what Joe said was that YouTube didn't archive a bunch of the shows properly and he couldn't download them.
That happens.
That's happened to us on several occasions.
When you go into your YouTube manager, you can take a stream and click download.
And for some reason, some of them, you just can't do it.
What you can do, though, is you can do a hard record.
You can play the video and then just screen record the whole thing and capture it if you had to, if you had to.
There's probably other programs you can get.
It's harder on live streams.
You can't just use like the auto download video thing for them, for some of them.
But we were told they would get put back up. never got put back up this is different this is this is a sustained uh campaign against joe and then on one day on a friday evening all at the
same time 71 episodes gone yeah i don't think they were expecting people to know which ones
like you were saying it comes out if we hadn't done this and talked about it, it's really subtle, stealth, the way they did it.
Well, when it first happened and those episodes originally a couple of months ago were taken over during the original transfer between Spotify, between YouTube and Spotify, it was the most controversial episodes that were missing and accidentally not ported over, which left a lot of people asking some serious questions that, of course, weren't answered.
We also have to understand this is on the heels of the U.S. government, the Biden administration, putting pressure on Spotify.
British royalty putting pressure on, of course, Spotify, the same British royalty that has connections and things with individuals like Jeffrey Epstein and all these other individuals. So we're having a lot of very powerful institutions,
whether BlackRock or Pfizer or the U.S. government
or all these other big financial players and multinational corporations,
saying stop exposing the agenda.
Stop destroying the narrative.
We need to have our way with the general public.
You informing them, giving people informed consent and having people think critically about what we're doing to them is not helping us.
You better stop right now.
And this is an effort of of of it being stopped.
Here's what I want to say, though.
He didn't take Dr. Malone down.
He didn't take McCullough down.
I wonder if this might be Joe saying, OK, in these episodes, I may have crossed the line.
If I take these ones down, it protects my ability to do shows in the future.
Now, hold on.
That being said, these videos, taking them down solves nothing.
They still exist.
They're all archived.
When the first episodes got pulled, people in mass archived all of his shows.
There's literally no point in pulling these videos down.
The clips are already out there. The clips are already out there.
The criticism is already out there. The shows have already
existed for a decade. I don't see
what the logical reason is for removing
anyone. I don't think Joe did this. I think he would
be a lot smarter because even if he did
do what you explained, he would have done it in
a transparent way where he would have made an
announcement and said, hey, I need to be a better
person or whatever or address it.
Doing it on a Friday night, doing it, I think it could either be some rogue Spotify employees,
because there was previous accusations of rogue Spotify employees leaking private information,
and of course, having a vendetta against Joe Rogan. It could be Spotify crumbling. It could
be Spotify sending a message. It could have been an error. Who knows? We don't know exactly what's
happening here. We're just speculating. And it's important to understand that there has been a
tremendous amount of pressure put on joe rogan and he doesn't just represent a podcast he's not just
an mma guy that likes to talk about chimpanzees he represents critical thinking he represents
thought being expressed by questions uh and for him to be taken down is crazy.
What a reality.
What a timeline we're in.
Coming off of the Donald Trump presidency,
the leader of the free world,
leading the charge on critical thinking,
the guy from Fear Factor, Joe Rogan.
Live with Theo Vaughn.
Who had a contest that made people drink special juices
from horses
for $50,000.
They said that comedians
were like
the truth tellers
of our age
and I never really
truly understood it
until about three years ago.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Good point.
Make that point again
because that's an important point
that you just made there.
The comedians
are the truth tellers
of our age
and there have been like
I think Voltaire said
if you're going to tell people
the truth make sure you make them laugh or they'll kill like, I think Voltaire said, if you're going to tell people the truth,
make sure you make them laugh or they'll kill you.
Yeah.
It's just so true.
Absolutely.
That's a very good,
good point.
You brought up powerful militant elite.
Authoritarians want to laugh.
They're human,
you know,
and they,
they love comedy.
Um,
I'm,
I'm played,
uh,
final fantasy seven.
I want to just,
we'll,
we'll wrap this segment up with a couple,
a couple of points.
Uh,
I,
I reached out,
uh, to Joe, just, you know, yo, what up? He hasn up with a couple points. I reached out to Joe,
just, you know, yo, what up? He hasn't gotten back
to me. He has no obligation to get back to me.
I don't want to,
you know, abuse the fact that I
know him to get previous information
or anything like that. If he can't talk
about it, well, you know, unfortunately then
he can't, but I don't know. Maybe he'll message me back and say
I was working out or something. So I will
say it's really, really good that his show exists.
I mean it's really, really important.
The Malone episode is still up.
The reason we're all like, yo, what's going on is because we recognize how important his show is.
And it's worrying to see that episodes are getting pulled down.
We need to be able to cut through the BS.
And outside of Joe, it's important to mention that the mainstream narrative, the mainstream media, they're tumbling, they're fumbling, they're falling apart.
We got this story from Yahoo News.
January 6th committee lawmakers devastated by Jeff Zucker's ouster from CNN.
This one's just a really amazing story because apparently CNN employees are freaking out that Jeff Zucker gets, you know, he gets
basically ousted.
The new guy who's apparently one of the largest shareholders, and I think it's called from
Liberty Media, which is the largest shareholder in Discovery, who is then taking over CNN
is a large Trump donor.
So the top level CNN staff are all freaking out.
And they're saying in these meetings that I've spoken with the January, four of the January six committee and they're devastated. This is happening. Why are they
devastated? Because we learned from Rolling Stone that at the highest levels of CNN, they were
colluding with Andrew Cuomo, a Democrat governor to help him craft his COVID narrative. They were
talking about this guy being a presidential candidate at the time. And CNN was helping him.
Chris Cuomo was helping his brother.
And I think that's why the whole scandal erupts.
Chris Cuomo helps his brother.
No, Zucker's helping his brother.
Then when he gets busted, Zucker says, you're fired.
Chris Cuomo goes, you were doing the same thing.
And he's like, too bad.
And he's like, well, then pay me out my contract.
And Zucker's like, I ain't paying you out your contract.
And then Chris says, I will oust.
I will get you fired. I will. I will tell everybody about your relationship
with this woman. And then he does. And now the whole thing's imploding and falling apart.
But you know what we see from this? It's it's becoming clearer and clearer out in the open,
in the mainstream press. CNN was colluding with Democrats for favorable press coverage.
We always knew it because it was obvious to anyone who paid attention.
But now it's definitive and in print.
We can see it.
That's why they want to censor everybody else so they can get away with stuff like that.
My conspiracy senses are tingling because I definitely do not believe that Zucker went down because of an affair that people knew about for years.
Katie Couric was even talking about.
I think there's something bigger at play here.
And I think there is some kind of vengeance from the Comos. The Comos are a very powerful family politically, especially decades and decades ago, especially with the
power that they had in New York and the political sphere a long time ago. But when it comes to CNN,
obviously, people are realizing that this is not journalism. This is not news. This is PR for special interests.
Special interests pay them, support them, and they do their bidding no matter what.
And they're willing to cross any line.
They're willing to violate any kind of morality in order to help the people that pay them.
And this is essentially the big business of corporate media.
That's exactly what it is.
It's nothing else.
It's not even media.
It's propaganda.
Could it be that they ousted him because of some
flights he took to a certain island?
Zucker? We don't know if Zucker was...
I haven't seen any direct
evidence about that, but I
wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. I'd not
heard that he had been on those planes. No, no. I haven't
heard it either, but it's got to be.
It's something more. You're right. It's something more
than just an affair.
Yeah, I think it's that they were colluding with Democrats.
The most trusted name in news, working with Democrats for favorable coverage is a massive, probably one of the biggest media scandals in the history of this country.
Or there could be a bigger story coming out about their direct involvement that they're trying to, of course, save face on and to, of course, not get a big backlash on,
and that's why they're stepping down preemptively.
There could be something even bigger coming to light soon.
But why would the – I know that you still have to finish reading it,
but why would the January 6th committee be devastated by his ouster?
Because CNN is basically their mouthpiece.
They're trying to come out with this lie.
They've been screaming to come out.
They've been screaming the lie for a year about January 6th. It's quite simple. January 6th was
bad. A lot of people fought their way through that front tunnel and fought with cops, fought
their way in the front of the Capitol. Really, really bad, bad riot. A lot of these people had
the doors opened for them by the police. CNN wants to push the insurrection narrative because they are helping
Democrats. They are now being exposed, their own president colluding with Democrats. The woman he's
having an affair with worked for Cuomo. So when they come out and they're like, it was an insurrection.
And then you get these Democrats saying, we're going to file a lawsuit because anyone who spoke
at that rally was involved in insurrection is no longer eligible to be a public official cnn is helping them do that and they got caught that's why and that's why they're devastated
they're like oh no our whole mission to to defraud the american people well they're the whole narrative
depends on the mouthpieces cnn is the mouthpiece of their narrative that they've been pushing and
obsessing about to the point where they have been losing 90% of their audience. They have been working so hard at doing
the bidding of the special interest that they're losing everyone. And it's not a surprise why
people don't watch them, why people don't trust them, because it's clearer than ever. They're
not in the business of news. They're in the business of power and i think uh i think you
would agree with me enrique that the january 6th panel is about power as well no no it's about
truth they're trying they're trying to find out what happened january 6th man it's really it's
really crazy to watch this past month how the establishment seems to be collapsing at an
exponential exponentially increasing rate.
Yep.
And does this mean that we're going to see now,
because this would be complete Twilight Zone,
we're going to see more right-wing CNN now?
This is crazy because apparently this guy,
John Malone I think his name is,
he owns this company called Liberty Media.
I think, fact check me on this one.
I think it's called Liberty Media.
I think that's what he owns. And they're like a quarter, 25% shareholder of Discovery.
Discovery is basically buying Time Warner or something like that, like Warner Media,
which owns CNN.
So ultimately you get this dude who apparently he's been very critical of Jeff Zucker.
He said he wants CNN to be impartial.
This was three years ago.
Now he's going to have some of the biggest, the most voting power in the company that basically owns CNN.
And a lot of people are speculating now it's going to go either like middle of the road or center right or something.
I doubt it.
I think that with the staff that they've hired, they've already created that culture within their holes um within the whole
culture within cnn um and i think that what's going to happen is you're going to see i don't
know i don't know if they're like unionized or whatever but you're going to see like a big push
if if he wants to take in that direction i i i disagree there there's the veritas release where
there's just like this producer guy,
and he's like, I remember when we would report the news.
Now it's just all Trump all day.
I mean, there are people who work there who are upset that they work at this job that's become this trash.
In this private meeting, you had people like Jake Tapper.
Jake Tapper said, if it wasn't for Zucker,
the network would have become benign vanilla gruel.
What's the news supposed to be?
Chocolate sprinkles? No, it's supposed to be benign vanilla gruel. It's the news supposed to be? Chocolate sprinkles? No, it's supposed to be
benign vanilla gruel. It's supposed to be your vegetables. You know, when I was a kid,
Seinfeld and The Simpsons, that was dessert. But the vegetables was the news. It was like,
this is your five o'clock news on Fox 32. And it was boring. And I was like,
and then as soon as it ended, The Simpsons came on. I was like, all right, The Simpsons.
What do they think CNN is supposed to be?
It's supposed to be news.
But Zucker is a reality TV guy, a deeply, deeply evil man who turned politics in this
country into a spectacle for profit.
And he destroyed the network.
There's another story from the rap, private text messages from former employees of CNN
saying Zucker destroyed the network and he
did and now that he's leaving jim acosta i think it was said we would be something like fox news
light fox news light does that mean centrist yo because it's probably what cnn like should have
been wasn't there a fox news reporter that like quit live on air fox news reporter i don't know
yeah i think you've had her on the show before. Ivory Hecker.
Ivory Hecker, yeah.
Oh, yeah, but that was Fox Local. That was Fox Local.
Yeah.
That was stunning.
I hope more people do what she did.
That was great.
Because they told her
that they didn't want to report stories
because certain racial groups
didn't care about these stories.
I think she wanted to report on Bitcoin.
Was that what it was?
I don't remember the exact details of it.
I think it was something like that
and they were like,
you know, this particular racial group doesn't care about that so we're not going to
report it and it's like well you know to be honest i understand the point they're making we run a
business but at the same time if your news is predicated upon what you can sell to the masses
you become cnn and that is a problem it's a fine line but you know the we used to have a news or maybe we never did maybe we
never did yeah this independent journalism i think is the way it's supposed to be what we got now
like we are change and tim cast and stuff that's i mean that's the future that's less people are
tuning into mainstream media more people are tuning into like podcasts alternative media
um and i think it's just going to get worse, and I think these networks are going to suffer.
The problem is with independent media is how do you verify they're not a crackpot?
That's challenging.
You kind of got to peer review them.
No, no.
You just have to only watch the shows where people speak a certain way.
They talk like this.
If they speak like this, and when referring to what happened in L lichtenstein that's how you know they're
credible and they have suits and they have paychecks from uh bill gates then they're 100
and absolutely trustworthy but if they talk like this guy's really fast like okay gang like you
know we gotta talk about what's going on too risky no yeah you can't trust them i'll enjoy the
anarchy but what's what's but but ian to answer your question what independent media does what
joe rogan does especially with his long format, three hour long conversations, which from any kind of business perspective, if through an agenda or a narrative or something that
has already has a final plan of what you think it is.
It's an exploration.
So when we have an independent media, we have sharing of data, of information and conversations
and debates that you would never have on the corporate media that question everything in
our reality.
And that's why it's so much better and stronger than the corporate media trash that they feed and shove down our throats you see a while back people started complaining
that the news was turning everything into sound bites that instead of talking about politics it
was just a five minute clip on the tv then twitter comes along and there's this video
glenn greenwald shared from 09 where he said i think it's a problem that twitter has this character
limit and it's going to keep you know know, reducing our conversations and making it, you know, making
it worse off. Now what's happened. We've, we've, we've punched that, that rubber, you know,
he stretched that rubber band to the point where it can't go any further and it snapped back.
And now we've gone from the two minute soundbite to the three hour long form podcast conversation
as the media choice for so many people.
So CNN, their old guard.
You know, Fox News, they're like,
Tim, would you like to come on the show?
We'll give you two minutes.
And I'm like, nah, no thanks, man.
That's the worst.
Jordan Peterson was four and a half hours on Rogan this last one,
and it was totally fine.
I only saw the first 40 minutes so far.
I was driving to Florida.
I watched all of it, and it was amazing.
A very top-provoking.
So who's to say?
How long is it going to go?
It might not even matter at this point.
Like, length maybe isn't the problem.
It's authenticity and an ability to flesh out ideas
so people can wrap their minds around it
instead of a guy coming out and being like,
Antifa's bad and vote Trump.
Bye.
Like, you know, hold on.
Let's slow down and say, you know,
you've got people then saying yeah but trump
is bad no no we get that like when you have long-form conversations you can say things like
it was bad that trump bombed syria but it was good that trump tried to get our troops out of
afghanistan and set the deadline for the withdrawal and then joe biden flubbed it you can get into all
the details around it and the nuance the truth the truth is nuanced right it's not black and white
there's a lot of gray there's a lot of. There's a lot of things that you have to come to an understanding of by patiently hearing both sides of the story.
The only way you could do that is through, of course, long formats instead of two-minute segments.
It's meat and potatoes.
And I've had a lot of times where these networks are like, hey, why don't you come on?
And it's two minutes and
it always if it's a right-wing outlet it's always the same thing tell me who the proud boys are
tell me how you a man of color can be a white supremacist it's the same like there's there's
no there's no there's no time for me to get into it that's and i think a lot of people and we should
be happy that people want those that long for long format for media because that means that just people want more.
They want more information and they want to establish these arguments too because I listen to stuff.
I listen to right-wing things just to get a different perspective on what other people are thinking.
I also watch left-wing podcasts.
I do watch CNN.
I do read CNN.
You could do watch CNN. I do read CNN. We talked about the media,
the manipulation, but I want to talk about
the physical actions they're being taken. Get into what happened
with you. So the first thing I want to ask you,
Enrique Tarrio,
are you still involved with the Proud Boys?
Yes, I'm still involved with the Proud Boys, but more
at a local level. Wednesday, I stepped
down as the chairman of the organization
after about three and a half,
almost four years.
Are you in any way
involved with law enforcement?
Is there more to that question?
Are you a fed?
No.
The simple answer is no.
That story came from...
Let me ask you.
Go ahead.
Have you ever done any work
with law enforcement?
Yes.
Yes, I have.
When?
Okay, so one, I worked with the DOD.
I was a contractor for the DOD, but that doesn't count, really.
What people want to know is the FBI involvement in 2012, I got arrested.
And yes, I helped the FBI bust a human trafficking ring coming into the US.
And then the third thing is, most recently working with law enforcement,
everybody's waiting patiently,
is when we go to these rallies and we go to like Portland, D.C. or Austin,
you know, these big blue cities where Antifa comes in and wants to wreak havoc.
Before we get there, we contact law enforcement.
We call the cops.
If we're getting threats from out of the state, yes, we will contact the FBI because that was the only people that could do anything about it.
And that wasn't a secret.
It was never a secret.
So when the story came out, everybody was like, oh, well, we got you.
I'm like, you've never watched my podcast.
I've been talking about this for years.
It's not a secret.
I've heard the conspiracy theories in in the context of the political
conflict over the past several years have you ever provided information or testimony to law
enforcement to aid in the prosecution of an individual absolutely not not even antifa
i've sent yes okay yes the answer to that is yes what about the human traffickers we've sent we've
i've sent documents and again In the context of the conflict.
Yes.
We have sent information whenever we've gotten credible threats or we see threats on Twitter.
We've exposed who that person is, and yes, we have forwarded it over.
I mean we put a White House – That's overt, right?
Like you're publicly acknowledging you're doing these things.
Of course. you're doing these things. But in secret, have you spoken with law enforcement so that it could assist them in the arrest or prosecution
of anybody involved in these protests?
Absolutely not.
All right.
Well, I'll just say this for everybody who's not a fan of you.
Yeah, they can believe what they want to believe.
If they want to believe you're an informant, that's their priority.
I'm okay with that.
Is there anything else you could tell us more about the DOD
or the trafficking case?
Because that seems something that a lot of people don't know.
The DOD was, I basically did security cameras and I did security assessments and I would do it for military bases, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, and those companies.
And I also did it for large retail stores like Macy's.
So that wasn't, I mean, that's not here nor there.
And then the human trafficking ring did come from Mexico. They were trafficking women, right? It was a sex trade.
And, you know, guilty. I gave them that. And if people, like Tim said, I've been dealing this for
about a year. I don't care if somebody loves me or hates me for that story i'm gonna say my truth
and if you accept it you accept it if you don't you don't um that's not my problem you said you
bust a ring of human traffickers but that you feel guilty for having done that or you feel like
people are gonna say hey bad on you for helping the fbi i mean i'm not gonna tell you i'm proud
of it either i think that's a good thing you did i mean i not going to tell you I'm proud of it either. Oh, I think that's a good thing you did. I mean, I'm not going to tell you
I'm proud of it
or I feel guilty for it,
but I am going to tell you
I just...
This is my truth.
And either you accept it
or you don't.
Well, let's talk about
where people get suspicious.
So what was it?
January 4th?
January 4th.
You got stopped and arrested in D.C.?
Yes.
And so what happened?
So to know what happened January 4th, you got to go back to December 12th. On December 12th, there was a banner that was burnt, a BLM banner that came off of a church, which I didn't know it came off a church. FBI Washington field office, put some pictures up of Proud Boys that weren't even in the area
and said, we're looking for these individuals because we're investigating a hate crime.
Now, if people don't know, even if it's a misdemeanor, if there's a hate crime modifier,
that could put you years in jail. I don't know if you guys heard the person that pulled down
the rainbow flag and burned it. gave me 15 years okay so the very
next day on my podcast live um i admitted to burning that banner and uh also on my parlor i
admitted to burning it um there was a warrant out for my arrest shortly after that i knew going into
dc that i'd be arrested i knew it that's why's why I flew January 4th because DC is a no bail
state. I'd be let out on January 5th and then I can go, I can go watch the president speak at
that time. Obviously remember, we didn't know that, uh, the Capitol was going to be breached
or anything like that. We just wanted to have a good time and see the president speak and get
trashed like we usually do.
So I flew into DC.
My number one mistake is I put, I sell magazines, laser engraved magazines on my website. And I did bring two empty magazines, not pistols, like a lot of people have accused me of.
I get arrested.
They didn't know about the magazines.
I have a simple under $500 misdemeanor destruction of property.
I leave DC, DC, DCA, Ronald Reagan.
And they wait till they were following me the moment that I got out of the gate of the airport.
And after I landed, where did you land?
In DCA.
Oh, OK. And Reagan back. yeah they landed after i landed uh where did you land in dca oh okay and reagan back and uh i i
got in an uber and i was driving into dc and i mean they came to get me like i was noriega
for a misdemeanor again they didn't know anything about the magazines even though the magazines by
themselves aren't really dangerous uh the whole they had a whole srt team ars pointing at the uber um there was a there was
a news camera the crazy part about this i swear to you there's a news camera full-size news camera
pointing at um at this everything that was going on i haven't seen that footage yet
but um was it cnn or i don't know okay i don't know i i don't doubt it cnn because you saw the
the stone story when they came to get stone cnn was magically in the corner of his house
uh he lives on a dead end street by the way at that time um and i think what they wanted to do
is two things i think what they wanted to do is send a message to anybody that was coming
to town that day and the second thing that they uh were trying to do is send a message to anybody that was coming to town that day.
And the second thing that they were trying to do is I think they were trying to take me out of the equation because I'll tell you this.
If I was on the ground in D.C. on January 6, Proud Boys wouldn't have been arrested.
I wouldn't have let any of them go inside.
I would have seen it from a mile away.
I would have seen it. Didn't the Oath Keepers guy say the same thing?
Like he told them not to go in and they went in anyway?
I don't know much about the Oath Keepers case.
I haven't read his latest indictment.
I know that Stewart was on Capitol grounds when that happened.
Do you think he's a fed?
Well, they hit him with...
They're hitting a Fed with seditious conspiracy
charges. So that he can plead the fifth and won't
testify because the defense
teams wanted these guys to testify in their
defense and now they won't.
In the J6 committee or are you talking for the cases?
For these cases, one of the things
that people are concerned with
is they have this guy's
communications for a year.
They don't charge him.
And I don't know if it was him specifically, but there's been other cases where as soon as the defense says, like, we want this person to testify in our defense, they go, oh, we're charging him.
And now he pleads the fifth.
Tim, I find it weird, but I've been on the end where people have called me a fed for the past year.
Like right now.
Yeah.
Probably on your live chat right now.
Luke and I were called feds endlessly back.
Luke probably still gets called a fed all the time.
And I've been on that side for a year.
So I can't tell you if he is or isn't.
I haven't really looked into it much.
But I could tell you that everybody gets called a fed at some point and it's inevitable. And I think it's by design. You know, you see like COINTELPRO,
you know, how do you, America's not going to die by murder. America's going to die by suicide.
Now put that in a microscope and put it into groups. Groups like the Proud Boys aren't going
to die because die because of anything
but internal turmoil.
And we've had internal turmoil from the beginning, so we're used to it.
We're a completely different group.
I hear that wind coming through.
I hear that.
Is that rain?
I don't know.
It sounds awesome, though.
I think it's rain.
It's soothing.
Oh, you're a fan.
I was like, what was that?
Getting heated. But anyway, one of the reasons people think that you're a Fed is that they feel like you got pulled out.
They stopped you from being there on January 6th to make sure you were out of the fray and not involved in any of it.
You're in jail conveniently, so you have a perfect alibi.
I understand that concern.
I get it. And it is a really good
argument oh they pulled you out so his their asset wouldn't be there but then like a judge
gives me five months for pleading out to a misdemeanor they give me max sentences i'm
currently on probation i gotta do three years probation on it uh I'm not going to say anything on live right now,
but anybody that was there on December 12th
knows what happened.
And I just think that it's meant to divide us.
It's meant we're very united right now,
but they're trying to divide us.
They're trying to make us fight with each other.
They're trying to cause this internal turmoil.
And I think now
is not the time. Again, I'm just going to say my story if people accept that they do, but I'm
speaking in general. I think that we need to get together and we need to focus because we're going
to lose everything. Is jail, like is isolation like mind breaking? Is it like psychosis inducing?
If you're, and I'm not going to say if you're a weak minded individual, like anybody could be Is isolation mind-breaking? Is it psychosis-inducing?
And I'm not going to say if you're a weak-minded individual.
Anybody could be broken.
I'll tell you it was... And I was only there for a short time.
I don't want to sound like I'm complaining
because some of these guys have been there for over a year.
But I was there for five months short.
The first...
The wind comes in. The first two weeks was extremely difficult
because it was straight isolation.
I come straight from the street.
I'm a very social person.
I'm around my family all the time,
and they put me in a six-by-four,
and they lock you in for 23 hours a day,
and at the beginning i was uh considered
high profile so they have me on like this hannibal lecter program so when they let me out for an hour
they don't let me out with anybody else i would walk the track which is an indoor track with no
no windows i'd walk the track alone and it reminds me of that meme you've seen that meme of uh
of um uh damn it what's that guy from colombia uh the drug lord yeah yeah
you've seen those escobar memes where he's just sitting on like the bench
he has his hand that's what it reminded me of because i'm like damn i must look like a
freaking crazy person walking around here but it was the only exercise i'd got
but i continued through that isolation isolation for the next three months.
After the two weeks, I calmed down a little bit.
I had my books.
I was reading nonstop.
And, you know, we're putting – I was in there with some of the J6 defendants, and we're putting in grievances.
And shortly after that, marshals came in, did an inspection, found the place unlivable.
What was it like?
Like toilets were backing up and spilling all over or something?
I mean, there's a lot of things I could, I could go on,
I could go on like two hours just about that alone,
but it starts off with like medical, right?
Overtreatment, undertreatment.
It started out, my first experience is like some guy was having some type of
medical issue where he passed out next to like my cell.
Right.
It took them 20 minutes to come pick up this guy and he was unresponsive.
I don't know what happened to this guy.
I know that I was I had problems sleeping when the doctor came by and I'm like, yeah, I have a problem sleeping.
And the next day they come with like a little thing with like five different pills.
They're like, you have anxiety.
I'm like, you know what?
I'm just not going to take this.
There was three people that OD'd in my unit within 24 hours.
From the medicine they gave them?
Well, yes, because they would smoke.
It was crazy.
They'd smoke like some type of pill, and then they'd mix it with like K2.
Okay.
And then the more severe things were you know your water'd be turned
off for three days you couldn't flush the toilet you couldn't use the sink there was no hot water
for for anything except for a shower um there was multiple times where like people would flood
and there's like there's crap there's little crap shit in the water about an inch.
And it's flooded inside your cell.
And they'd leave it in there for like two days.
They wouldn't let you out, you know, because it's flooded.
They wouldn't let you out.
They'd cut off your water.
And then they try to give you water in bags.
And there was like 24 hours that you wouldn't get one of those little bags.
And when you get it,
you know,
you're like drinking it up.
Abuses from the guards were prevalent,
especially with the J six protesters while I was in there.
I mean,
attorney client privilege doesn't exist.
They denied me from seeing my attorney multiple times.
And one of the times that they did, they put me in a hallway with two guards next to us.
No walls in between us.
There was no sense of privacy.
And we're talking about I'm being sued.
It's a war of attrition.
They put me in jail.
The J6 committee subpoenas me i wasn't in i wasn't even in dc at the time uh i'm being sued by members of congress
i'm being sued by capital police i'm being sued by the dc government i'm being sued by a church
for what so well for january 6th but i wasn't there i'm sorry i wasn't there the church that's
suing me is doesn't even wasn't the church that the banner was burned from it's another church
somewhere else i don't even know where this church is so what they're trying to do is they're trying
to break me down they're trying to expose me as an fbi informant so my own guys turn on me
uh they're trying to hit me financially which they already have a long time ago,
so they could sue me and be like,
you owe us $100 billion.
And I'll be like, cool, I'll send you some shirts.
Because literally, I'm broke.
Was there an effort?
You just mentioned a little bit
that they tried to make you look like an informant.
Is there more that you could tell us about that?
I think what they did is they got those three portions of the story i made earlier that the contracting for the dod uh the stuff from 2012
and me us working how is that released because that usually especially when it comes to like
confidential informants that stuff usually isn't released right that's the other thing that's crazy
is that that's not really supposed to be released. But like who released that and how did that?
His name is Aram Rosten with Reuters.
And he released a story and he mixed in a whole bunch of things in there just to kind of like give it some spunk.
I honestly believe right now Aram Rosten is they're leaking information from the J6 committee to Aaron Roston at the time.
But that's a whole other ballgame.
But what we're seeing here is they wanted to deplatform you because it's things that we were talking about years ago.
They want to definance you.
They want to sue you, take everything that you got.
They want to put you in a cage.
And eventually what they want is they want you dead. Okay. And I'm not, I'm not exaggerating here. That's, that's the road that we're going on. I always think about how they would try and get,
like, they'd try and torture someone to admit that they lied right before they execute them
back at like really horrible totalitarian governments. They'd like get them on stage in on stage in front of everyone they're like now tell them all that you were lying the
whole time they're like no no and they're beating them tell them tell them and then they finally say
okay i was lying they're like good and then they kill them yeah that that's the tactic that they're
using with some of these j6 defendants what they're doing is these people some of these people aren't
accused with being violent right some of these cues aren't accused of like stealing or breaking
anything no assaults no nothing you know they just walked in and out and they've been in jail for a
year and basically what they're trying to do and they keep them in that 23 and 1 lockdown for a
year you know i don't care how strong you are they get they they put you they put you in solitary
confinement and that lockdown for long enough your minds are gonna come all well you're gonna
fry that's gonna be fried that's torture That's what happened to Chelsea Manning.
That's what's happening to Julian Assange, who should not be in jail right now, who hasn't
been convicted of any crime.
He's facing charges here in the United States, which is crazy.
But correct me if I'm wrong.
It was the CI, confidential informant information.
Is that correct?
That is correct.
I remember seeing that and wondering,
this is supposed to be classified. This is supposed to be kept away from the general public.
This is not supposed to be known. There are no public releases about this kind of information
because it's held secretly. So people don't know the kind of means and techniques of,
was it the Federal Bureau of Investigation or was it a local police department? FBI.
FBI. So they don't usually release that information, especially with such a high profile case,
because it actually puts the case in jeopardy, doesn't it?
Well, here's the kicker.
On that article, I don't know if that's what you're watching right now.
On that article, this journalist, I've never heard this.
I've never heard this before.
Besides being able to get these records, he was able to get the judge to give comment on the case and the ex-prosecutor on the case
to give comment on on what happened on those proceedings right so I think that that's why
I honestly think that that story was timed to to cause turmoil I think that's's why i honestly think that that story um was timed to to cause turmoil
i think that's what they wanted to do now you made a statement about your truth what is your truth
on on what uh you made a statement uh before when we were talking about this saying this is my truth
uh specifically with you know all the accusations in short I just kind of wanted to ask you an open-ended, generalized question.
What is your truth?
My truth is,
I've, I can't cuss here.
I've screwed up many times in my life.
I'm not a perfect person.
Some people put me on this pedestal
as this person that you should follow.
I'm not the most moral person in the world.
Okay, and I've screwed up.
I'm not proud of what happened in 2012, but I did it. But the truth is now there is no truth to,
Hey, you're working with the feds. Right? And again, that story just doesn't bother me anymore.
I love my bros. I love my family. I, before jail, if I was on this show, I tell you, i love my family i before jail if i was on this show i tell you i love my country i can't tell you that anymore i can't my priorities have changed since i've gone in i love the constitution
but i don't love this fascist thing i don't i can't i can't tell you my priorities were my god
my family my country now it's my god my's my God, my family, my tribe.
And to me, what that tribe is,
is people that do believe in that document,
people that do want a better this country.
And to me, those people are more important
than a set of borders.
What are some of the names of the people
that are in prison right now, these January 6th?
Are there any names?
There's actually many names.
There's Charles Donahoeoe right we called him yet
yet uh zachary rel ethan nordine uh also known as rufio um joe biggs um we have dude we have like
26 guys that are that are arrested um and you know can can I say, hey, did they deserve something?
I'm like, well, you trespassed.
Fine.
Hit them with trespassing.
But that's not what they're getting hit with.
That's why I'm fighting for.
Well, hold on a minute.
Is it trespassing if the police open the door?
Yes.
No, I agree with that.
I'm just telling you.
Let me just say, because we had an incident recently where a guy trespassed on the property and the reason it was trespassing is because we have two very large signs a very large
signs one of them is no trespassing this is private property everything you do is being filmed
if you keep going another sign a smaller one says you are now trespassing on private property. When we talked to the police, they said if someone crosses a barricade in any way after having trespassed, it's burglary in Maryland.
If you don't have any notification or signs, no crime has been committed.
So when it came to the Capitol, a lot of people keep saying trespassing.
And I think it's because we're like, you know they they entered this this property but the capital is public property
my understanding is that many of these buildings i'm not sure about the capital specifically are
open to the public in most cases and for a lot of these people you can watch video of the police
opening up the door and saying i agree with your right to protest so these people who walked in
and were looking around and like smiling and waving, they were not informed.
They weren't allowed to be there.
There were no signs.
There's no warning.
The first thing that has to happen is, excuse me, you are trespassing during an official proceeding.
You need to leave.
Oh, sorry about that.
Bye bye.
But they didn't do that.
So I'm wondering if this is even trespassing.
Well, here's the thing.
So and the reason why I say is not convicted of trespassing
i think that that should be like the most the the most serious of charges to somebody that
did an assault or break anything right but uh in legalese uh the trespassing charge that they're
charged with isn't even applicable because it goes a step further to the no signs thing so the
building in in the in the law,
it states that the building must be secured by Secret Service.
The version of trespassing that they're hit with
and the building's not secured by Secret Service.
The building's secured by Capitol Police.
But what I'm fighting at,
I'm not saying they have to fight that misdemeanor
if they get it,
but we're way past that.
They're using this archaic law
called obstructing an official proceeding because it's the only felony that they could be charged
with. The only felony that they could be charged with is obstructing an official proceeding,
and it doesn't apply in this setting because it's meant for witness tampering. It's not meant for
protesting and obstructing an official proceeding at all. And as a matter of fact, what was happening
January 6th isn't an official proceeding at all. It is a ceremonial proceeding. So if January 6th,
let's say everybody got COVID, right? And nobody showed up to the January 6th, the certification
of the election still happens. Joe Biden is still inaugurating president in 2020. Congress has no
say in how the states vote for a candidate. Voting, that's a whole
other issue. I'm not going to get into that. But when we're talking about the certification,
it's not an official proceeding, but they're using it because it's like the only thing that
this government's like, this government's like, we got to give them decades. And what do they do?
They keep them in the gulag, right? They keep them in the gulag for a year locked up
and they're like well you're facing decades and then the first prosecutor that comes in and gives
them a deal and it's like well you know what we're gonna give you six or seven years like
you're stuck in this hole and you're like okay you know what i gotta take this deal i gotta take
this deal and it makes you like it makes you not want to fight these cases, right?
Because you're scared.
They broke you.
And it's so easy to get to that point.
How can we help those people?
I know that there's a couple of...
What I'll do is if you guys follow my Telegram channel, I'll post it.
But I know that there's some channels on Telegram that are constantly posting fundraisers, ways to contact these people, something that helped me.
That was great.
I got a lot of mail.
I got to read a lot of mail.
People send me books.
I got to read a lot of books.
And then obviously the fundraisers, if anybody can help any of the J6ers, period,
by fundraising, there's also, as far as the proud boys go there's a
channel on telegram called app free the proud boys and it has like the contact information
on how you can write to them uh and things like that like a lot of those people i imagine they
have families and they're out of work now so the family is suffering financially as a result yeah
and then maybe can people can donate to their families directly that's that's that's uh another
thing that's on there is like a lot of of family funds where you can go ahead and give.
There's Amazon lists too.
We've got to go to Super Chat.
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And get your Super Chats in.
We're going to read a bunch of what you got.
All right. We got Marcuscus a lundy says listen to will of the people yesterday and i have
to ask where the hell did that voice come from 10 10 download and we'll listen again thank you very
much good sir yeah uh for those that may be new to the show we used to do jam sessions on friday
nights i have been uh playing music since i was like seven years old drums guitar vocals we guitar, vocals. We're working on a bunch of new songs.
We got Ian jamming on a lot of these songs.
We're working with Pete Parada, formerly
of The Offspring, doing drums for
a bunch of our songs.
It is an honor and a privilege.
And hopefully we can get Mr. Phil Labonte
of All That Remains. He expressed interest in
collaborating on a song. That would be amazing.
And if you haven't already, you can check out Will of the People
on YouTube. It's a video on this channel. That would be amazing. And if you haven't already, you can check out Will of the People on YouTube. It's a video
on this channel, and it is my music
video about the cycle of revenge, violence,
and revolution.
Alright, let's see what we got.
Andre says, Give Send Go crashed
from all the traffic. Honk!
Alright, honk honk.
Alright, alright.
Chance says, Tim, you should
build culture by making a 2A show like Demo Ranch.
I'd pay extra for it and would let you use my arsenal to get it started.
We've actually discussed doing that,
but we want to do more than just, you know,
hey, we're on a ranch and we're going to blow stuff up
because it's been done.
Is there something better than that?
Yeah, I mean, that sounds good.
Well, I mean.
I like that idea.
Yeah, I do like that idea.
You could. Maybe do it in slow motion. Even outvoted. You've got to figure out your angle, you know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, that sounds good. Well, I mean... I like that idea. Yeah, I do like that idea. You could.
You could do it in slow motion.
Even outvoted.
You've got to figure out your angle, you know what I mean?
Do it from above, maybe, that angle.
Top down.
Maybe we can find a way to...
We've got to check the laws on this one.
But, you know, drone work with demolition drones or something.
If we could zoom in really fast into an explosion in slow motion, that would be cool.
And then back out really fast in slow motion.
One of the things we did on one of the vlogs was when we were at the shooting range, after we fired, we had a camera on the side of one of the guns, one of the rifles.
And then we had the drone, after we were done, we had the drone fly forward like it was the bullet.
So we just like boom with the drone.
Stuff like that.
So we'll see. boom, with the drone. Stuff like that. So, you know, we'll see.
We'll see. Yeah.
Quagsire says, I've been thinking about that Starship Troopers
quote for the past week with all the news
about the convoy. When you said it, my face
lit up. Honk!
Which quote?
When Doogie Howser puts his hand on the alien,
it's afraid, and they're like, yeah!
What a truly amazing piece of literature.
The Starship Troopers.
Have you guys watched?
Nope.
Two days ago.
The movie doesn't do the book justice, my understanding is.
I think Carl Benjamin did a breakdown of the book is actually a lot better.
The guy who made the movie wanted to make them fascists.
I've been thinking about it because I was telling you guys how I kill the stink bugs.
I throw them outside into their cold death.
And it makes me think about the bugs from Starship Troopers
and how they weren't evil or good.
They were just bugs, just living.
And the humans made them out to seem evil
because the humans were the fascists, apparently.
Because the aliens launched a preemptive attack.
So we were told, yeah.
Well, I think the humans were the preemptive attackers.
In the story,
so you're getting the Starship Troopers story from an omniscient perspective the bugs attacked earth
first and then earth responded and the guy who made the movie tried to make it seem like the
humans were the fascists like we talk about they blew buenos aires dude i don't know good story
good story huh a couple of authoritarian governments service guarantee citizenship
all right brandis brandon tom says i which charity GoFundMe will donate to.
BLM?
Planned Parenthood?
Maybe a little bit of both.
Yeah.
Maybe to Act Blue.
How about that?
Thanks for all your money.
All right.
Let's see what we got.
Christopher Chavez says, so I've just watched YouTube not allow me to call out one of their
paid shills.
I tried posting a reply three times,
and each time I went to check, the reply wasn't there. That has never happened to me before.
You know, I feel like I run a risk by even mentioning this, but we've done it before,
and I'll do it again. There's something, what is it called? The 50 Cent Army.
And what they do is, in China, like whenever someone, a regular citizen posts pro-CCP
propaganda, they get 50 cents or something like that.
We did an episode where I mentioned this.
So there's a delay.
When we talk about a minute, 30 seconds to a minute after I say it, it appears on YouTube.
There's that lag, right?
And so during the show, we kept getting a drop-off.
The show would pause and then jump.
And then after the show, people were people were like oh they were weird skips
you know at certain points and then it turns out whenever we mentioned the 50 cent army
the show would drop for a few seconds i'm watching it right now seeing if it's dropping but i don't
think it is i mean maybe it was just a coincidence yeah you know maybe it's coincidence and we're all
just paranoid or whatever but i thought that was funny so yeah there i'm i'm also wasn't it also
that you couldn't post some kind of offensive Chinese slur?
I'm not sure.
Yeah, there was a slur for a Chinese communist, and YouTube would delete it if you posted it.
Oh, yeah.
I'm wondering, did China already win the war?
Looks like it.
I don't know.
I'm encouraged when people say what a paper tiger that government is.
Yeah.
Does that say Benison, that you, baby?
Does what say what?
Sorry, my eyes are bad
I don't know
I don't know
Justin Bookman says
hello Tim and crew
Ian is a fellow
Ohioan
sup
I would hang out
at Walmart
after school
but I feel
I feel like there are times
at 8 a.m.
in Tim's kitchen
where you're going about
the fed
going on about the fed
but Tim is like
I just wanted to know if you want syrup on your pancakes.
Tim lives on the other side of the house now.
We used to pop in and say hi to each other once in a while during the day and talk politics.
But you sleep until 6 p.m.
I think that's about to change.
I'm pretty excited about it.
With what?
Just my schedule.
I want to be up during the day and sleeping at night.
No more sleeping at night.
Let's get a little more active.
Yep.
All right. Let's grab some super chats.
Heywood says they are creating extremists one blue collar worker at a time.
Maybe that's what they want.
They want to beat down regular people to the point where they can use them as propaganda.
That's why I always say nonviolent civil disobedience works.
Violence does not work.
We are not in the 16 or 1700s anymore or even the 1800s.
And people say, yeah, but Antifa gets away with it.
Yes, because they get funding from the state.
Literally, Illinois Democratic Administration was giving BLM money.
It was from the state.
These people are on the side of the fascists.
So let me make something very, very simple for all you guys.
Pulling up in your car and honking your horn is destroying the establishment.
They're screaming and freaking out.
And it is the most amazing, joyful, positive and peaceful protest.
You see, nonviolence of disobedience is the key.
They don't know what to do.
They're like, well, they're violent.
And it's like a granny is handing out muffins.
And they're like, but they're racist. And And it's like a granny is handing out muffins. And they're like, but they're racist.
And then there's like one guy with a Confederate flag.
Nonviolent civil disobedience is working.
And that one guy gets kicked out of the protest.
It's working.
And they don't know what to do about it.
I wouldn't say the Confederate flag is not a racist thing, is it?
Is it being twisted to be racist nowadays?
I mean, yeah, but first the Confederate flag is the battle flag.
And I'm not going to nitpick when someone's like, I think that's a racist flag.
I'll be like, well, I get it.
I understand.
That's not the point.
The point is the truckers aren't racist.
They're regular working class people.
The point is they're not violent.
They're peaceful.
And the establishment doesn't know what to do.
Yeah, like this guy said they're making, what did they say, radical truckers one day at a time or something?
Blue-collar workers.
Blue-collar workers.
I don't think that this established order understands that it's creating the collateral damage of blue-collar extremism.
Like, same as bombing the Middle East and killing parents and the kids grow up and become extremists.
They weren't intending it.
They want more January 6th.
They want regular working people to lose their minds so they can justify
banning people from Congress
and seizing control.
But when people just stand around
and dance,
they don't know what to do.
If you silence somebody,
if you definance them,
if you take everything from them
and then you demonize them,
do you think that that person
is going to rationalize or do you think that that person's going to rationalize
or do you think that that person's going to be radicalized?
Yeah, exactly.
Like people aren't going to go,
oh, okay, you know what?
You're silencing me.
You're calling me names.
I'm broke.
You know what?
Maybe I'm wrong.
That's not going to happen.
I don't get that.
It's not going to happen.
It's a conversation I've had with a really good friend of mine about platforming people.
He's like, you're directly contributing to the rise of a fascist state of the United States by platforming people like you, for instance, because of our conversation.
But first of all, he doesn't know who you are.
He's just heard your name.
He heard the media reports.
And like, dude, if you try and stifle people, especially people you don't agree with, and force them underground, they don't go away.
And the ideology doesn't disappear.
Yeah, it goes into the corner and festers
and rots and grows.
I think the real reason why people hate me
is I'm really, really good at making fun of people.
Like I got a knack for it.
I don't think people know who you are enough to hate you.
That's true.
It's true of Rogan.
These people have not watched any of his episodes.
No.
Let's read some more.
We got Flick Off says, if you guys get Dan Crenshaw on, please ask him about being one
of Klaus Schwab's young global leaders.
Would also like to hear Luke's opinion on it.
I actually have a statement on this.
First, the first thing is we were supposed to have Dan yesterday, but they had to vote.
And so it went all night.
But he did reschedule.
I'm grateful that he wants to come on the show.
I look forward to talking to him. And he already reschedule. I'm grateful that he wants to come on the show. I look forward to
talking to him. And he already responded to me about this. He said that he had nothing to do.
I'm paraphrasing, but basically, the World Economic Forum creates their own editorial list
like Forbes 30 under 30. They decide to just highlight people they think are prominent figures,
and he had nothing to do with it.
And now because they put his name on it, everyone thinks he's involved with the World Economic Forum, which he's not.
Well, people are concerned because there's a video going around right now that I tweeted myself from Klaus Schwab in 2017,
literally bragging about how he claims to penetrate the Canadian government, the Argentinian government, the French government,
and how half of the cabinet members of the Trudeau government are from the World Economic Forum.
So because of that, people are, you know, triggered and concerned about people being associated with it.
And that's why I was really looking forward to that conversation.
I think, you know, Dan should either disavow or publicly say that he does not want to be a part of that list and ask them to take him off.
So when I was talking to him to ask him to come on the show, he mentioned that.
He's like, dude, I had nothing to do with that.
Yeah, that's great.
Let him make a statement and saying, I don't agree with the World Economic Forum.
I don't agree with their vision.
This is what I personally think.
And if that would have happened, I think that would have been very important,
and I think a lot of people would have respected that,
especially if they could get an honest point of view of where he stands
on this very powerful organization that has mobilized the corporate world,
the government world, towards creating a Great Reset.
What's his ideas about the Great Reset?
What's his ideas about the 2030 vision? What's his ideas about the 2030
vision? Would love to hear about it.
And, you know, hopefully those conversations
happen. How do you feel about Klaus penetrating?
Dude, I would have loved
to be here if Dan was here. It's the creepiest.
Dude, this Austrian, old Austrian
authorocrat,
this corporatist, like,
it's such a Bond villain. I know it comes up
a lot that Klaus Schroeder's like, Doesn't he look like a Bond villain?
Yeah, he looks like him, sounds like him.
He's like Dr. Evil.
He's trying to corporatize the global government.
I mean, it's what a Bond villain would do.
It's incredible.
And yes, I am peeling an orange right now
in the middle of Super Chats.
I'm so glad.
Luke brought all these oranges.
And I think I got the last.
Oranges.
I brought all the oranges.
He imported them from like.
Florida.
Specifically.
I handpicked them from Florida, brought them here for everyone, and I get attacked because
of it.
Do you see the hospitality here?
I'm from Florida, and this orange is from Idaho.
It's Florida.
Look at the size of that thing.
GMO.
Oh my gosh.
That's probably genetically modified.
That's a bug.
Yeah.
You guys ever see these blood oranges, man?
They're so cool.
Look at this.
You know what I'm going to stop doing?
What I'm going to try and stop doing is eating non-organic food, like genetically modified
food or stuff with antibiotics and stuff.
That you're not going to eat that?
I'm going to try and avoid it at all costs.
Good luck.
Especially animal products that have been injected with hormones and roundups and stuff.
Let's read some more Super Chats, though.
I want to make sure we're giving people.
Rick Hunter says, Enrique has been disavowed. Take your
colors off. Oh, great.
Have you been disavowed? I have not been disavowed.
I've been the opposite of disavowed.
But I'm
actually surprised that in the Super Chats, I've
only gotten one of those comments.
All right. Just Revenant says,
Hey, Luke, is Alex Jones Bill Hicks?
That's...
Does he get mad about that? Hey, Luke, is Alex Jones Bill Hicks? That's – You'll never know.
Does he get mad about that?
Exactly.
Has he ever addressed that?
He loves it.
Yeah, all the time.
He's like, it's crazy.
But we had him here and I asked him and I accidentally said Bill Burr.
I was like, are you Bill Burr?
He's like, what?
No.
And then I was like, oh, Bill Hicks.
I cannot expose such big truths.
Does he say it's a conspiracy theory? Yeah. Oh, you was like, oh, Bill Hicks. I cannot expose such big truths.
Does he say it's a conspiracy theory?
Yeah.
Oh, you know what?
Alex admits it.
Conspiracy theory.
No.
Alex is, I think people need to understand a lot of his show is sensationalized.
And I don't mean that he's not, I'm not saying like he, I think he's putting on a show is what i mean to say and if when you actually talk to him he can very calmly break you down like break down these stories and walk from point a to point b for
you but i gotta admit when he goes on joe rogan and he's like human animal hybrids and they're
building these 5g towers and i'm like when he came on the show the first time he was telling
us about klaus schwab is the first time i ever heard about klaus schwab and he also mentioned
klaus and another guy together.
And I don't remember the other guy's name, but we got to figure that out because he was just as intertwined as Klaus in all this.
It was more than just Klaus.
I don't want to pin it on him.
Alex comes on the show with Phil Labonte.
And I'm like, let's talk about immigration.
And then within 30 seconds, Alex is like, so when Thomas Jefferson was running the Illuminati, George Washington's writing a letter.
And then I'm like, Phil, help.
And he goes, yes.
I'm like, what are you doing?
You're supposed to be helping control this.
It was fun, though. He's really smart.
He is very, very like – he remembers dates, numbers, people, dates of births.
The guy's a walking encyclopedia.
I love him.
Yeah.
He's great. All right. Let'sie encyclopedia. I love him. Yeah, he's great.
All right, let's read some super chats.
We got Vision Quest.
He says,
Spending our Friday evening watching TimCast IRL on one TV
and Viva Fry on another.
Thank you both for doing what you do so well.
Could use another honest journalist up there, Luke.
Ask him which one he likes more.
I was banned from Canada for like 10 years.
I don't have a good relationship with the Canadians.
10 years?
Yeah, I got banned 10 years for false pretenses.
I was arrested falsely by Mayor Bloomberg in New York City.
All the charges were dropped, but as soon as I came up to the border,
the Canadian Mounties stopped me, interrogated me,
went through all of my devices, went through all of my clothing, every little piece of thing.
They tore everything apart, had dogs all over my place.
And then they told me that I was a criminal.
I was arrested and I have a criminal record, according to the FBI, which I never had.
I've been arrested a number of times, never found guilty, arrested seven times,
always charges dropped
because it was always for the crimes of journalism
and asking people hard questions, and
they said I was convicted when I never was.
So you were banned for
ten years. Banned for ten years. They're like, don't come
back in Canada for ten years. Then I got a lawyer,
I fought it, and I was actually able to go
to Canada within the seventh year.
That's actually super cute.
I've been banned from Canada for life, and I've never stepped foot in the country.
Wow.
For what?
I see someone.
Canada designated the Proud Boys a domestic terrorist group over there,
and the Canadian Proud Boys never even go out to rallies.
So I'm banned completely for life.
I can't never go there, and i've never been there not that i want to go there although i do want to go support these
truckers yeah canada's but let's read some some more super chats we got zoe rourke he says a joe
fan here i'm losing faith in him after cnn defamed him he wouldn't sue them because jeff was his
friend now we are missing more episodes i'm starting to think he isn't on the side of freedom.
I completely disagree with that.
I certainly think Joe is one of the most important individuals
fighting for free thought and freedom.
And he defended his podcast with Malone and Peter McCullough.
And I respect that greatly.
And let's be real, like when Joe had me on the show
the first and second times,
he helped lift me up tremendously.
So whatever you think about what he's doing now, whatever you want to be critical of him, absolutely.
That's why we'll still talk about what's going on with this show.
That's why I'll still question what's happening with this show.
No free passes, but Joe has been such an amazing net positive for freedom in this country.
I just think you got you gotta just his show is
fantastic it's one of the most important things keep the faith man joe's a good dude you gotta
judge people by the fruit of their labors and when you look at the fruit produced by joe rogan holy
cow there's been a lot of counter narratives there's been a lot of information that the
very powerful people are trying to keep away from you. You've got a crazy obsession with fruits.
Look at the size of that thing.
I bear many fruits.
Rogan didn't say he didn't sue CNN because he was friends with Zucker.
He mentioned that he was friends with Zucker while he was talking about it. He never said why he wasn't going to sue them or why he didn't.
Honestly, I think Joe is trying to de-escalate to a great degree.
But I also think he's a bit obstinate.
He refuses just to, he, I don't think he's the kind of guy who just wants to lie, you know?
So when they, when Sanjay Gupta comes on, he's like, no, like, dude, you guys lied about me.
But you know, when Sanjay Gupta wrote that article and said, I was afraid Joe Rogan was
going to jump the table and throttle my neck. When I brought that up to Joe, he was like,
ah, he's just trying to be funny, man. And I'm like, I don't give him the benefit of the doubt the way you do. You know, I just, sure, maybe there's some humor
in that. But, you know, the reason that plays well to the left is because they believe it.
They believe you're the guy who's, what did Ethan Klein say? That he's like hopped up on human
growth hormone and stuff like that. Like they're insulting you. So Joe's not stupid. I think he knows all of
this, but I think he's trying to avoid escalating a conflict with them. I think Joe, uh, when he put
out that statement and he was like, yeah, I'm sorry for pissing you guys off. I'll do better
next time. Very, very well played because it's hard to look like the bad guy when you're being
nice and making jokes and saying you're a fan of Neil Young and all that. And then even the rock
apparently comes out and he's like, rock on brother brother. So you want to be the nice guy. There was a hit piece that
was written about him. And this guy was like, I started watching several episodes and I came
across one with Joe Rogan and Tim Pool. And he refers to me in like, I forgot what he said about
me. He said that I was like, an extremist, but I forgot what word he used. Basically that I'm, it's like passionate, but in a negative way, whatever he was saying.
That I'm like partisan and, you know, hyper-focused and, you know, to a degree like, I forgot
the word he used.
Yeah, you'll think of it.
I know what you're talking about.
But he was basically saying that I was fervent, you know, that I was like, and Joe was much
more like, well, calm down there, buddy. And, you you know and i think that's joe's that's how that's
how he plays it you know he wants to have on people like josh zeps you know that's the guy
who claimed that the uh internment camps in australia were just international arrival bungalows
and then they started taking people from their homes and bringing them to there which makes it
an internment camp at the very least like the most modest definition so joe will have him on and just be like okay you know i you
know he made me look bad and you know i i love the guy so thank you and he's very very polite about
it i think that's his play yeah i get the whole wanting to get along with everybody and wanting
to smooth it over and kind of be like the penultimate diplomat but also if you see somebody
torturing somebody else like and if it's your brother that's getting tortured like you kind of gotta not be a diplomat anymore now it's time to take action well joe did i joe did end up
defending me on on two occasions from that guy's insults though so it's like you know look i i think
joe's a good dude i'm eternally grateful for him having me on his show because it like i gained
like 300 000 subscribers the first time i went on his show. It was nuts. Then he invites me on to meet with Jack Dorsey, and I told him on the phone.
That's great.
I was like, Joe, I'll do this show, but I'm like a little baby bird,
and you're kicking me out of the nest here, buddy.
I was like, I've got like 180,000 subscribers on YouTube,
and you're asking me to go have a conversation with the CEO
and the chief legal for one of the biggest companies in the world.
And he was like, you're a smart guy, dude.
You can do this. And I was like, I'm not scared. You kicked ass on world. And he was like, you're a smart guy, dude. You can do this.
And I was like, I'm not scared.
You kicked ass on that one.
I was like, all right, let's do it.
I didn't prepare.
I was just like, I don't know, man.
I'm a guy.
I'm a sitting chair.
I'm going to talk about stuff.
But, dude, the dude, he's a good guy.
And I'll tell you this.
When we all got sick, Joe covered the cost for us on our treatments.
And he was just like, he's like, I appreciate you coming to my show, man.
So look, I'm not going to, I'm never going to be someone who's going to give free passes
to anybody.
I want to know why those episodes got pulled down because I think his show is so important.
I think he's a good dude.
If Joe has some kind of privacy issue or business issue and he can't tell me, I'm not going
to, I'm not going to cry or complain about it.
I trust him.
I trust that he's going to do that that he's going to do the right thing.
And I think he's proven that by having Dr. Malone on his show.
So just hopefully we have the faith.
We remain critical when we need to be.
But Joe is one of the good ones, man.
Keep the faith.
He's got an amazing show and he's a good dude.
And he took care of us.
Yeah, man.
So thank you for that.
Seriously.
All right. And we got this one
from kuai matters eastern europe knows about joe rogan and anyone not bought and anyone that isn't
mentally ill sees that as sees this as a power grab and it always starts with the u.s greetings
from beyond the iron curtain well hello there the fcb says fedcastcast IRL somebody in the chat we got two
no no somebody in the chat said Luke is a Fed
oh double Fed
dude
you guys got to pump those numbers up
on all Fed all night
it's two to one right now
it's embarrassing
I get tons of people saying like
how does Tim fund this show this is insane
I've seen a bunch of comments where they're like, how does Tim have that building?
This doesn't make sense.
His channel is not that big.
And I'm like, I don't think people realize how business works.
And we have a website and we have memberships and we sell merch and we, you know, all that stuff.
I always get asked, how do you, how do you make all this money to fly everywhere?
I'm like, what do you think?
I don't work for a living.
Apparently not.
Like plane tickets can be 70 bucks if you fly regional and small planes.
Not only that, I live in MIA, which is like the cheapest airport in the country.
I go to Colorado round trip for 60 bucks.
Nice.
Yeah, my flight here was like 100 bucks.
Yeah, it was not much.
So great.
All right.
Miklos says, Tim, shadow banning is a thing.
If I wouldn't be subbed and notified, I wouldn't get your content. And that's true. And you know what's really frustrating? Several
times on this show, I've been like, oh, I want to pull up this Instagram post from Sargon,
Carl Benjamin. And I go on Instagram and I type in his name and it doesn't come up.
And I'm like, I follow the guy. Okay. And Instagram doesn't show me his account.
And then I have to manually go to a browser and type it in.
Because if I go to search, I type in Carl Benjamin.
I type in his username, CarlBenjamin100.
It won't come up.
I'm like, how am I supposed to go to his profile?
So I go to my own follower list, my own following list. And I scroll through until I find the account because I'm following it.
And then I go in.
Yo, shadow bannings.
It's real and it's insane.
All right, we'll grab a couple more
fleshy javelin good name says tim i was a national guardsman in dc from the start of
covid all through the riots and the other side's incident and i would love to talk about it
send an email to spin the ufo at gmail.com i'd be interested in that one lydia will look for
the email from fleshy javelin. Sounds great. I'll be looking
forward to that one. Also, with the
super chat before, it's not just shadowbatting. It's also
Instagram saying, don't follow
this person. He spreads dangerous
misinformation as they did to me a few
weeks ago. And they're doing it now to imagine
noirs. I don't know. Crazy. I don't know
what Instagram, Facebook,
or YouTube looks like anymore.
I have no idea.
And I haven't known for three years.
Man.
Not missing out.
All right.
You're not missing out.
No, no.
Roadrunner says,
Ian rolled higher on the die today.
Be safe, Enrique.
I brought my dice up here just to...
Wait, what does that mean?
So, yeah, there's this philosophy
that when I ever played Dungeons & Dragons...
No.
When you play Dungeons & Dragons,
you make an action.
I'm going to attack that goblin.
You roll a 20-sided die.
And the higher you get, the better.
If you get a 20, it's a critical success.
You hit no matter what.
If you get a one, it's a critical failure.
You miss no matter what.
So when I talk on the show,
I tend to either roll a 20 with my ideas or a one.
Because what will happen is I'll swing for the fences,
and if I see that it's not going, I just give up.
He's the wild card.
Ian, keep swinging. I'll keep swinging the fences, and if I see that it's not going, I just give up. He's the wild card, I'm sure.
Ian, keep swinging.
I'll keep swinging, Luke.
I love you, baby.
Yeah, man.
Sometimes he's like, we'll be talking about the politics of Ukraine and the invasion, and then Ian will be like – Start thinking about the North Pole.
Did you ever put your finger in a cow's mouth?
I hear it feels good.
In Ukraine, because I'll be thinking about Ukraine from the 70s where a guy, a farmer, was talking about the cows.
And then we're all laughing.
People are like, what?
But then sometimes we'll be talking about COVID and stuff, and then he'll roll a 20 and be like,
how do we balance people's freedoms with more serious diseases like Ebola when you have a very high mortality rate?
Ian, to me, you always roll a 20.
I love your glasses, by the way.
Thank you.
I have obsidian dice.
That's what I wanted to show off
alright we'll read a couple more here
we got Justice says I found Tim Pool
through Joe Rogan and many other people
that are relevant now no Luke I puke
that's right
yeah man
Joe's gonna have a lasting impact because
he's been he has so many people on this show
and ends up –
it's kind of crazy that these ideas of freedom and inquiry are spreading because of this one show is shouting everybody out.
I want to not put too much pressure on Joe because his show is really the guests.
I mean he's a big part of it.
Obviously he's a big part of it.
But his guests, man, the knowledge that comes out of that show is from the guests.
He just kind of lets it come out of them.
It is, but
you listen to his show, you know he's talking
and he has these ideas and he asks these questions,
and he's created that centralized
hub for all of this stuff. That's why it works.
We also can't just depend on him for
everything, and we need to decentralize
this whole independent media
sphere so we only aren't
just focusing on him.
He's great.
He's amazing,
but he's also a big target.
We need a lot more targets out there
to make sure that he doesn't get taken down.
We just got to keep doing the work we do.
We got to keep growing.
We got to keep getting more support
over at TimCast.com from everybody
and help us get bigger and bigger.
And we have a different kind of format here.
It's not too dissimilar though,
but we have various guests on.
And shout out right now to Viva Fry, obviously on the ground reporting live from the trucker protest.
He also has a YouTube channel where he does legal analysis.
So channels like Viva are awesome.
We had him on the show.
Super cool.
What were you saying?
I didn't say anything.
That was a weird noise.
Yeah, my phone made a weird noise.
Yeah, I started talking to him.
That was your phone? Yeah. Is it the radio? No. Free Vee! I don't know what. That was a weird noise. Yeah, my phone made a weird noise. Yeah, I started talking to it. That was your phone?
Yeah.
Is it the radio?
No.
Freebie!
I don't know what's going on here.
My friends, if you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to the channel,
share the show with your friends if you really want to help out.
If you want to support us directly, go to TimCast.com, become a member.
You can follow the show at TimCastIRL.
Everywhere, you can follow us on Instagram for clips.
You can follow me personally at TimCast everywhere and especially on Instagram. Enrique, you want to shout anything out?
So the only place that you could find me right now is Telegram. If you could just go to your
browser, hit t.me slash Noble Leader. Is that the one that works? Or if you got your Telegram app,
just hit the at sign Noble Leader. And that is my channel where you can keep up to dates on my podcasts
and news about the J6 political prisoners.
Yep, definitely.
Nothing is safe on the internet, but Telegram is one of the safest places sort of out there,
still somewhat of an okay place to talk.
I think my channel is at news, the number four, a change.
I think that's it.
I'm not sure.
But one of the other best ways to communicate is through email.
Since, of course, I get to keep the emails,
no centralized big tech company gets to keep it.
And if you want, sign up on my email list on enoughofcensorship.com.
I am going to be doing in real life meetups,
which only you could find out about on enough of censorship.com.
Hope to see you there.
I got a lot of very exciting projects coming up and hope to have your
participation in it.
And I should be going back to Florida pretty much in a few hours.
Oh,
it's going to be warm down there.
Bye everyone.
I'm Ian Crosland.
Follow me in crossland.net.
If you want to link into my socials,
Enrique,
I'm in,
I'm in.
And one more thing that I'd like to say,
I'm really, really upset that I was only called I'm in. And one more thing that I'd like to say, I'm really, really upset
that I was only called the Fed twice.
There's more in the chat.
There's much more in the chat.
Don't worry.
I was just going to say,
every time I make a thumbnail with Joe Rogan in it,
first of all, it does incredibly well
because people really care about Joe Rogan.
And second of all,
I'm just reminded of how important he is.
And I never thought that I'd live in a world
where a former MMA fighter,
UFC commentator, and comedian is one of the most important voices we have but he is just because he does ask questions and he gives platform to all kinds of different voices i really
appreciate you never fought mma though no no no no he didn't he fought in the mma he was gonna
he fought he never fought in uh he was going to do that for like a celebrity match right no but
he did fight mma when he was young it was taekwondo and stuff i i misplayed i meant ufc never fought in the ufc i just want
to say sort of you know it gets to a certain point where i'm like dude are we really talking
about joe again like kickboxing it's no i mean this story won't stop and it's really weird
you know especially knowing joe i'm like i don't want to keep talking about yeah i don't want to
put too much pressure on him.
It's not about pressure on him.
It's just like, but I thought about it.
And with all of these news stories constantly getting bigger, I realized I think Joe is actually more important, influential and powerful than even I realized.
Yes.
It feels weird to talk about this dude who does a podcast until you realize it's probably the biggest show in biggest show in the world yeah and you've got the president of brazil talking about it it would be like me saying
oh i don't want to report on cnn because you know i know people who work there or something it's like
no we got to talk about it well we've said it before that joe rogan does dictate the news cycle
and he definitely does and i'm very happy to see it to me it definitely does look like the last
death rattle of a dying um conglomerate. Anyway,
you guys can follow me on Twitter at
sarahpetulitz and minds.com as well.
Thanks so much for hanging out. Go to timcast.com
become a member. Enjoy your weekend.
Ladies and gentlemen, we are going to have a
nice send-off party for Luke for the
second time, because we did the first
time. It was great. We went to a steakhouse.
We will see you all at youtube.com
slash castcastle in the vlog tomorrow morning, and then we will see you all at youtube.com slash cast castle
in the vlog tomorrow morning and then we'll be back with the show on monday thanks for hanging out