Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #466 - Canada FREEZES Freedom Trucker GiveSendGo, Declares Donations ILLEGAL w/Nick Searcy
Episode Date: February 11, 2022Tim, Ian, Seamus of FreedomToons, and Lydia host actor and director Nick Searcy to discuss the Canadian government freezing the GiveSendGo funds that have been raised for the Freedom Convoy truckers, ...the Young Turks disingenuity regarding the January 6th protest, Nick's choice to fire his agent for refusing to learn about January 6th, the DHS saying that there might be a trucker convoy that may form around the Superbowl as a convoy might form in the US, and Nick discusses the armorer that worked with him - and with Alec Baldwin. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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So the Ontario government has frozen the funding from Give, Send, Go.
First, GoFundMe says we're shutting this down.
Now you've got government officials basically saying that these donations are,
you can't give them out.
It's illegal.
It's illegal activity.
They're going to block it from transferring through banks.
It's pretty serious.
But let me just say, over-target much.
When Black Lives Matter goes out and does whatever they want,
when Antifa goes out and does whatever they want, they don't care.
They barely do anything. Why? Because it's not actually in opposition to the system. And this is how you can tell. When truckers show up and park their cars,
it is so disruptive. Trudeau has crybaby panic attacks, and the government desperately tries
to stop the funding of these protests. We got more news that apparently, I don't know if this
is true, there's going to be a US convoy starting at the Super Bowl., I don't know if this is true, there's going to be
a US convoy starting at the Super Bowl. And I don't know if I believe that, because that sounds
like, why would truckers go and protest regular people who are minding their own business? Why
would they go to a government building or DC or something? But we'll get into all that stuff.
We've also got inflation. Inflation is bad. It's the worst since 1982, except when you actually
take a look at how the consumer price index is calculated. If's the worst since 1982, except when you actually take a look at how
the consumer price index is calculated. If we were to calculate today's inflation rate
using the same methodology as 1982, it's actually worse. And you'd have to go back to World War II
to see worse inflation. That is to say, Joe Biden is presiding over some of the worst inflation
we've seen in 70 years. Okay, fine. We'll use the modern calculation and say 40 years.
But the thing is, every single month, they say the same thing. Why? Because every single month,
inflation just keeps getting worse. All right. We'll talk about that. We also had at Madison
Square Garden in New York City, a sold out crowd at Madison Square Garden chanting,
let's go, Brandon, which is insane because it's New York City. You know, I think
people hate Biden. But we'll get
into all that stuff. Joining us to talk about
all this is Nick Searcy. How's it
going, man? Thanks for coming. Thanks for having me.
It's great to be here. It's a cool setup.
Appreciate it, man. Do you want to introduce
yourself? Well, I think
everybody knows who I am. People in the
chat certainly. Yeah, I'm Nick
Searcy. Hey, everybody.
There you go.
International film and television star.
People may know you from such shows as Justified and movies like Fried Green Tomatoes.
Castaway.
Castaway.
Oh, you were in that movie with Tom Cruise?
Not the volleyball.
Tom Hanks.
Not the volleyball.
Tom Hanks.
I said Tom Cruise.
He did not play Wilson.
Although the volleyball got more close-ups.
Right.
Yeah, right on.
And you also have a film, Capital Punishment?
Yeah, a documentary that we made about what's happening to the people who went to Washington on January 6th.
Right on.
Well, we can talk about all that as well as the Gosnell film you made.
That's about the – wow, I've got to be careful how we describe this because it's so graphic and gruesome.
Most prolific serial killer in American history.
Killing babies.
And we're not being facetious,
cute, or hyperbolic about abortion.
He literally killed babies.
He would induce birth and then kill the baby.
Yikes.
Maybe we'll save that for the members portion
because that's real dark stuff.
It's pretty dark.
But we've got Seamus here as well.
Seamus Coghlan.
Not everyone knows who I am.
I run a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes.
We upload a new cartoon every Thursday.
We just uploaded one today called Fed Talks.
And it's a parody of Ted Talks.
I think you guys will really enjoy it.
It's very relevant to what's been going on in the news with some of these undercover operations.
I hope you all check that out and enjoy it.
Ian Crosland here. I'd like
to maybe, thinking maybe we could change the way we think
about inflation, say inflation's getting better,
which means the economy's getting worse.
Yeah, yeah. I like that.
So you guys check me out at iancrossland.net, but I'll
be seeing you soon. I'm really excited for tonight's
talk. Nick is a very accomplished actor, and
I'm sure he has a lot to say about the
wonderful world of
Hollywood, and hopefully we can get into Gosnell.
I'm really interested in that.
And actually worked with the armorer that Alec Baldwin had worked with too.
So we'll get into that stuff.
That'll be interesting.
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This is huge news.
I can't believe it.
From globalnews.ca, Ontario freezes funds from GiveSendGo trucker convoy fundraiser.
The Ontario government says it has successfully petitioned a court to freeze access to millions
of dollars donated through online fundraising platform GiveSendGo.
My first question is, are they based in Canada?
And how can you actually stop this from getting to people?
You can't.
The GiveSendGo organizers could just convert it to Bitcoin or crypto, and there's nothing
anyone could do to stop them. However, that would be against this court order. Just so you know, I don't know if
it's illegal, but they're going to say the province obtained an order from the Superior Court of
Justice that prohibits anyone from distributing donations made through the website's Freedom
Convoy 2022 and Adopt-A-Trucker campaign pages, said a spokesman for Premier Doug Ford.
Ivana Jelic said the order binding any and all parties with possession or control of these donations was issued Thursday afternoon.
She cited a section of the criminal code that allows the attorney general to apply for a
restraint order against any offense-related property.
This is really, really amazing stuff.
I want to show you this post from Andrew Lawton.
Here's a quote.
It says the Ontario government says it has effectively frozen all donations.
Quote, today the Attorney General brought an application in the Superior Court of Justice
for an order pursuant to Section 490.8 of the Criminal Code prohibiting any person from
disposing of or otherwise dealing with in any manner whatsoever any and all monetary
donations made through the
freedom convoy 2022 and adopt a trucker campaign pages on the give send go online fundraising
platform this afternoon the order was issued it binds any and all parties with possession or
control over these donations i don't know are the people who have set the page canadian and i wonder
ultimately if it's if it's going to matter yeah also, even if they're not based in Canada,
the Canadian government can say,
we'll never let you operate within the borders of our country again
or something along those lines unless you surrender the money to us.
Well, so here's what I don't understand, right?
They say disposing of, disposing of?
So if you have these donations and you're like, I'm going to refund them,
you can't do that?
You can't refund them?
It says otherwise dealing with.
What if they came out and said, well, look, if we can't give them to the truckers, we're going to give it back to people. No, you can't do that you can't refund them it says otherwise dealing with what if what if they came out and said you know well look if we can't give them the truckers we're
going to give it back to people no you can't do that either so they're effectively stealing the
money yes locking it in place that no one can touch it that's what it sounds like sounds like
despotism yeah well but look at how these kinds of things go when blm riots burns down cities gets
people killed absolutely destroys lower-class neighborhoods.
They are given federal relief money from J.B. Pritzker in Illinois.
Your taxes end up funding them.
When people voluntarily decide that they want to support working-class people standing up for their rights as workers,
that money is stolen from them.
Looks like GiveSendGo is based out of Boston, Massachusetts, according to Crunchbase.com.
So I would imagine they don't really have any liability here.
No foreign government can make them do anything.
But it's the people who started the page.
Interesting.
So that's what it is.
They're in Canada.
Yeah.
I just don't understand how they can do that.
I don't see how that works.
I mean, how do they stop them from from giving money to somebody that they want to give
money to i mean what and and and who it's right so so that's why this is it's you know let me just
slow down holy they are desperate yes they're they're saying this money from this fund you
can't do anything with why because how do they prove the money was given to someone involved in the trick or convoy?
Right.
If there's a guy named Bob Smith and they're like, we gave him $500,000, they're going
to be like, well, that's the convoy.
No, it isn't.
Prove it.
Prove this guy.
How?
Yeah.
And so they just say, well, then no one can touch any of the money.
Well, so what happens then if – I mean this is – ultimately I think they're trying
to cause damage to Give, Send, Go.
Right.
Well, Give, Send, Go was, you know, it's a Christian organization that was created as a response to GoFundMe being so relentlessly left-wing.
And, you know, the Gosnell movie, they started the fundraising campaign to raise money for the Gosnell on GoFundMe,
and then GoFundMe rejected it.
You know, said they couldn't raise money on that platform because of the subject matter.
And so they had to go to Indiegogo.
Wow.
They've been this way for years.
Well, the thing with Give, Send, Go, I mean, was my comment earlier off base,
is it possible that the Canadian government could legitimately just say to them,
you can't operate here unless you surrender the funds?
To the company itself.
Yeah, yeah.
Like what other mechanism?
Yeah, what other mechanism is there?
Ban the website.
Yeah, is what I'm curious about.
But you're saying it's a Christian company, so I hope that's not the case.
And I hope they would stick up for their principles.
I don't want to suggest that is what's happening.
I have no clue.
I hope Canada bans Give, Send, Go.
And I don't mean that literally.
I mean that like, try it.
Yeah.
Imagine what that would sound like to the rest of the world canada bans fundraising platform for engaging in offenses wow they're this is i just got to say over target
yeah kind of kind of scary actually how effective the trucker thing is and how panicked they are
they're trying to claim oh far right right wing all that other garbage and it's just a bunch of
trucks that parked you know know what I mean?
They're going to keep claiming it.
Do you guys hear that they want to go after their kids now?
Yeah.
There was that story where apparently they are.
Child endangerment or something if you bring your kids with you to the con. And it didn't work.
No.
So now they're just like, give us your money.
It's not going to work.
It's not going to work.
You know what's crazy is it's really easy to throw a wrench in the spokes.
It's really hard to build an engine.
It's really easy to break one.
So you get these guys who got these big rigs.
It's not the most expensive operation ever planned.
It's not the most expensive protest we've ever seen.
It's just one of the most effective.
Imagine if there really is going to be a U.S. trucker convoy or whatever.
If truckers just, even in small groups, decided we're going to take what we want from now on,
they could, no one could stop them.
To me, it looks like they really need something
that's less centralized.
So they tried GoFundMe
and now they're trying GiveSendGo
and they're having kind of the same problems
with both platforms.
Even though GiveSendGo is much freer than GoFundMe was,
it sounds like they need a way
to get these individual funds to the truckers that need it
without going through a central system.
Am I crazy?
No, you're not.
If you're using fiat in any way, it's going to go through a central service to get to
its target.
Right.
The only way to do something non-centralized here, I think, at the present, would be with
crypto from your wallet to their wallet.
That's what it sounds like.
So we actually have a statement from GiveSendToGo.
They tweeted,
Know this.
Oh my.
Canada has absolutely zero jurisdiction over how we manage our funds here at GiveS Send, Go. They tweeted, Know this. Canada has absolutely zero jurisdiction
over how we manage
our funds
here at Give, Send, Go.
All funds
for every campaign
on Give, Send, Go
flow directly
to the recipients
of those campaigns,
not least of which
is the Freedom Convoy campaign.
Beautiful.
Except,
if the people
who are getting the money
are in Canada,
then the Canadian government
is going to go
after their bank accounts.
So Give, Send, Go
can be like,
yo, you can't do anything with the money yeah well yeah the money's flowing but
they're going after the individuals who are raising the money so i'm wondering if the people
who set it up are in canada and that's that's the big question it would be really funny i gotta be
honest if the people who set the page up are not in canada and we're just like americans who are
like we're gonna we're gonna help fundraise for this. Because then Canada really is just having a temper tantrum and they can do nothing about it.
Do nothing.
Well, I'm worried about, remember how they just seized the crypto keys from the people who are running this kind of Bitcoin scam?
And I think it was New York City, the crocodile of Wall Street or whatever this lady and her husband called themselves.
So I'm curious if they're going to try to use this as a way to get the whole control of crypto jump started. I wonder
if they'll use this as a way to like wedge it.
I just thought last night, first time
I thought this, I think maybe
crypto itself,
Nakamoto, Satoshi Nakamoto, maybe that
that is like a government operation
to get, and then they're going to crash the fiat
system and then get everyone on crypto and then track
everybody. I mean, I literally said
this two years ago. It's finally sinking in today. i said it over and over again thanks dog yeah i mean you
so there's that big story about the crocodile of wall street lady right these two people apparently
they're accused of um wire fraud stealing hacking you know billions of dollars in bitcoin and i've
been saying this i remember i was hanging out with luke uh from we are change a few years, and I was telling all his buddies, and I was like, the ledger is public.
Every crypto transaction is public.
So unless you're using Zcash or Monero or something, but even then, these people who got busted, they were using Monero, and the government still tracked it.
It's like, look, man, you got powerful interests that are terrified you're going to try and circumvent the tax system.
They're going to figure out a way to find out how much money you got and why.
So ultimately, this all comes together when you realize what a lot of people on the right have been talking about what cashless society looks like.
Yes.
Yo, you're in it.
Right now, I've got some cash in my pocket or whatever.
If I want to go buy something, no one can take that cash from me unless they come and take it.
But if you got all your money in a bank account, they could just be like, wrong thinker.
Now you can't buy food.
Right.
Yeah.
The other thing we're seeing too is kind of like as an aside but somewhat related.
You see they're having National Guard act as substitute teachers.
Yeah.
National Guard is being deployed to act as teachers.
Where?
In New Mexico.
79 National Guard were deployed to be teachers.
And they're saying there's going to be more.
And I'm just like, yo, we're getting to the point where they're going to steal your money right from underneath you.
Imagine what the future looks like when they can take your money away because it's digital and they control the banks and the financial institutions.
Think about what the future looks like when they issue a universal basic income because it's digital and they control the banks and the financial institutions think about the future likes when they issue a universal basic
income everybody gets two thousand a month the private sector has been destroyed by all these
insane restrictions all that's left are big box stores where you can buy stuff you get a fun
amount of cash the people working at those stores are all national guard sounds a whole lot like
communism yes i heard that they're uh this was just a one person on twitter said that by 2026
they want to have kill switches in all cars like remote i saw that yeah so that if you don't are
you a wrong thinker your car turns off i don't know yeah i don't know if it's because if you're
a wrong thinker or something i think it's like a tech backup or something they don't want anything
to go wrong supposedly they want it so that when you're running from cops exactly yeah the cop
compresses right in your car didn't they just do? Didn't they just hack some guy's GPS system and freeze his car because he was running from cops?
I saw a news story about this.
I swear you guys can track it.
It's for your own good.
Everything is for your own good.
Exactly.
You're really sounding ungrateful here, Lydia.
I know.
I know.
I'm sorry.
What's your deal?
I know.
Yeah, just accept when the government decides they know what's best for you.
Exactly.
Because I think if history has taught us anything, it's that, you know,
the government is always
looking out for your best interests.
Yeah, and the police are great.
I love that meme where it's like,
so we, it's a Twitter post
and the guy's like,
so yeah, the CIA did bad stuff
in the 50s, the 60s, the 70s,
the 80s, the 90s, the 2000s.
No one's ever been criminally charged
or held accountable,
but we can't assume they're doing anything wrong now.
That's a conspiracy theory.
That's really why I'm talking to people about how the government's lying about January 6th.
I go, oh, no, they're not.
I go, what convinced you that the government wasn't going to lie to you?
Was it Vietnam?
Was it Tuskegee?
Was it JFK?
What was it?
But this is the thing.
When I hear these people arguing with you about it,
just why even talk to them anymore?
It's just I'm so over it.
I'm so beyond it.
The people in the, I don't know what you call it,
liberty side of things have this tendency to think
that they're playing a fair game of chess
while the other side is snickering amongst themselves
about how they've been cheating the whole time.
Yeah, Massey was saying last night, Thomas Massey was on the the show congressman and he was saying that it's like he goes in there he has to almost forget most of what
he knows about engineering just to participate in congress because it's so emotionally charged
and people are like wild animals you know working off their feelings yes he didn't say that that's
me interpreting what he said but i i agree with the emotion thing but it's thing, but it's so much more raw than you realize.
You're talking to a brick wall.
You know, when you're talking to someone – so I'll give you guys an example, and I'll give a shout-out to our good friends, the Young Turks, because they deserve it.
We love them.
I just want to say, too, you know, Anna Kasparian, I don't understand why she's such a mean person.
She's better than me, I'm told.
Well, I mean, she's just a mean person.
She's better than me, I'm told. Well, I mean, she's just a mean person. She's an expert. You know, I've talked about the Young Turks.
I've talked about a bunch of people, and I'll criticize them, but I always try to keep it to a certain degree, depending on who it is.
Like CNN, they get nothing from me.
Like they're awful.
You know, all of them are just vile people.
But, you know, I recently tweeted something nice to Cenk Uygur because he tweeted out, try being nice to someone and see how it makes you feel.
And I was like, I respect and agree with that.
So I tweeted at Cenk.
I was like, I think you're a smart man who's widely successful with one of the biggest
political shows.
And I respect your hard work that you put into this.
It's all true.
It's all true.
The dude is wildly successful.
You don't got to like the guy or agree with him to recognize the thing he's built.
And he liked it.
He clicked the like button on that.
So they did this segment.
We were talking about January 6th.
And we had Enrique Tarrio on of the Proud Boys.
And I had mentioned, look, the people at the front gate of the tunnel entrance of the Capitol
and the front entrance where they're fighting with cops, that whole area.
All those people, okay, that was violence.
That was a violent riot.
Yeah, you get arrested for that.
You commit an act of violence.
We arrest you.
Those people, yeah, hands down, we get it.
You're going to get them for whatever you get them for.
But there were a lot of people who are the magamimos, as we call it, who are walking around.
And then all of a sudden you see this video of the cops opening the barricades and fanning people in.
So my specific point was if you're walking down the street and a police officer goes like this and waves you in, opens up the barricades, you are not trespassing.
You are not legally trespassing in any circumstance.
Now, the prosecutors here might lie and just claim we don't care what the reality is.
That's called tyranny.
But if let's say it's not the Capitol.
Let's say my house has a barricade up and you're walking on the street and I open the
barricade and wave you in.
I cannot then attack you and claim you trespassed.
What if there's so hold on, let me finish this point.
So when I tell this story and I said that the people who entered under the circumstances,
I don't see how you can even get them for trespassing.
What ends up happening is, you know,
Anna Kasparian makes this whole video where the one thing I just don't understand is
she's like, she accuses me of saying these things,
knowing it's false because I just want to make money.
They then try to allege that because other people on the other side of the building were
fighting with cops, that means the other people on the other side of the building who are
led in by the cops are committing crimes.
Yeah.
And I'm just like, that's the point of, you know, I don't bring them up to actually engage
in any meaningful dialogue with them because they don't want to.
No.
Because I've politely asked them because I have Cenk on DM.
I messaged him and I'm like, hey, we'd love to talk.
Like, let's talk.
They won't do it.
They have no interest whatsoever in having real conversations.
I'm not going to insult them.
I literally just complimented the man's work.
But instead, what they do is they make insults.
They insult my appearance.
They don't engage with the core of what the actual statement or argument is.
So at this point, with all of this stuff going on, I just say the only thing that matters right now
that these people are interested in is power. They don't care about truth. They don't care
about arguments. It's power. And if we as the libertarian side of things, I don't mean big
ally, I mean just the more freedom-oriented people, keep saying, why won't they understand?
Maybe if we keep trying to convince them to understand,
they do understand. They're lying about it. Look, I tweeted Anna. I commented on their video.
I DMed with Cenk periodically saying, let's talk. And I said, what I said was a specific reference to a story from ABC News where the defendants in the case on January 6th said, the police let us in and told us it was okay. And my point is,
if that is discernibly true, you can't prosecute on trespassing in any circumstance. I mean,
there's probably some technicalities. Instead of actually taking the core of that argument,
she just says, Tim's lying for money. He's a grifter. He knows he's lying. And they totally
misrepresent the entirety of the conversation. There's no point in arguing with these people.
So right now we're at a point where this country is so far divided.
There's just, you are wasting your time when you should be doing grassroots organizing,
some kind of effective growth strategy.
There's an old saying that when you argue with a fool, there are two.
I do think there's one exception here.
If someone says something ridiculous like this to you
and then you respond
and you have a reasonable argument,
the moderates will see that
and they will be more likely
to take your side in the future.
If the person you're arguing with
responds to your reasonable response in bad faith,
then I think you just have to discontinue the conversation.
Yeah, and then they look like a fool
because if you respond to their bad faith, then you look like just have to discontinue the conversation. Yeah, and then they look like a fool, because if you respond to their bad faith,
then you look like an idiot.
Because honestly, you look like you're reacting emotionally
because you know you can't reason with this person.
You're only continuing with the argument because you want
your ego to come out on top. You're not going to win,
right? It's like playing chess with a pigeon.
They're going to knock the pieces off the board,
take a crap, and strut around like they won, right?
Is it like I was right or you were right?
Because we're both probably right describing the same thing differently.
No, no, no. Dude, dude, dude.
In this specific context, there is a video
you can watch of the police
opening the barricades and
fanning people in. Well, my question is, if there's
a cop on your driveway and you had a no trespassing
sign and they were waving people in,
and you didn't know, would those people
not be trespassing then because a cop waved them in?
Well, but Ian, if it was a police officer charged or if it was a security agent specifically charged with protecting the parameter,
like the Capitol Police are specifically charged to protect that parameter, and they were the ones letting people in.
And they were the ones holding the barricades.
So let me make this point, okay?
They opened the barricades up.
There's video of it.
There's numerous videos.
And multiple officers fanning people in.
Now, the argument is they were fanning the officers back saying retreat because the mob was pushing too hard.
The mob didn't break the barriers down. The cops opened them up. And that was at least at one
entrance. You have to understand that when it comes to criminal law, an individual is an
individual. On January 17th, 2020, the police in D.C. charging antifa with as a group under conspiracy it doesn't work
you can't do it under our legal system that means each individual in that crowd gets an individual
charge now there's some circumstances where you get racketeering you get people as a group right
there's numerous videos of that there's a there's another video where the doors are actually opened
by the police and one guy goes i don't know man they're going to trap us inside because the police. And one guy goes, I don't know, man, they're going to trap us inside because the police opened the door. And then one officer says, I don't agree with it, but I respect
it. Now, if you're walking into a building and a cop says that, how could you be criminally
prosecuted under trespassing when trespassing requires, you know, you trespassed. And I'll
give you the specific example is when we had the police here talking to them
the officer told us if you don't have a sign if it's just a driveway the public is allowed to
enter you can then tell them to leave and they have to and if they don't then it's trespassing
by placing the sign now it's trespassing and it is true at the capitol there were many signs
except not everywhere and many of them were taken down and the police even removed some of those barracks.
So in the home situation, you have to have a sign on the driveway?
Because what if they walk onto your property from like...
Okay, come on.
We're not going to get into the...
Well, this is my question.
That guarantees they see it as if it's in the entrance.
But if they enter from a different area and they don't see a sign, is it still trespassing?
Even though there's a sign?
Yes.
So you're supposed to assume they're supposed to enter from the driveway.
It's a pointless... I'm sorry. Or on the front door or something. If you're sneaking through the woods to get on a property or trespassing, there's a sign? Yes. So you're supposed to assume they're supposed to enter from the driveway. It's a pointless, I'm sorry.
Or on the front door or something.
If you're sneaking through the woods
to get on a property or trespassing,
there's no argument.
Well, if someone, some people walk.
I know it's not common,
but I'm just wondering for technicality.
So you would have to trespass on someone else's property
to trespass on a property
without going through normal means.
There's no argument.
But you were going to say something there.
Well, I was there myself on January 6th
and I saw myself,
I saw the police remove the barricades and let people get up on the steps of the Capitol.
I saw them do that.
And when the people that I saw got on the steps of the Capitol, it wasn't violent.
It wasn't a riot.
They were waving flags, and they were singing,
We're not going to take it, and it looked like a party.
I didn't see any of the violence when I was there.
But one of the people in our movie, two of the people in our movie,
are these two twin 74-year-old grandmothers who went to the Capitol that day,
and they said they saw some people going in and out of the doorway at the Capitol building.
And one said to the other, Do you want to go in?
And they decided to go in, and they talked to the police.
They went, and they said to the policeman, is it okay if we're in here?
He said, yeah, it's fine.
They walked in.
They took some pictures.
They walked back out.
They went home.
And three weeks later, the FBI is banging on their door,
threatening them with domestic terrorism.
You're on a no-fly list.
So this is what you need to understand Ian when you told
Seamus you know sometimes we're both right
in different ways or whatever. You said that this is not true
in this case. The Young Turks
either are ignoring what I
actually said on the show when I explained
there's a video showing police letting people
in and saying they respect what they're
doing. They ignore that.
They put the clip of me saying
that in their video and then argued
people were climbing over broken glass and fighting with cops to get in so that is taking
it either look maybe maybe they're just not uh smart enough both are true right there were people
climbing over violent no no no the video they showed was of me saying the door was opened by police and the police
said, I respect it.
They then took that of me saying it and twisted it so that their audience believes I'm saying
people climbed over broken glass.
How could that be trespassing?
Which is, I never said that.
You read the comments and it's so sad.
And this is why I understand the desire to want to argue with these people, because they're
all saying the same thing. If they were fighting with cops and breaking glass and climbing through
windows to get in, how could Tim be so dumb? And I'm like, man, I sure do wish the Young Turks were
just honest about what I actually said to Enrique Tarrio, that the people who engage in violence
should be prosecuted. They should be in prison. The people beating cops should be arrested. The
people fighting with police in the tunnel should be arrested. And the memos who were welcomed in
by police, whether you agree with it or not, I did not say they're innocent. I said, there's,
there's, you probably can't prosecute on trespassing unless there was an explicit
warning, which there wasn't, there was welcoming. Now, if they were honest, I would, I would,
I would love to engage in an argument with them, But they're taking what I said out of context, changing the context, lying to their audience.
And then when I politely say to them I'd love to explain, they refuse to engage.
Look, I'll say it.
I'm not going to mock Anna the way she does of me and my appearance and things like that.
I'll just say I believe the Young Turks are legitimately evil people.
Oh, I don't know.
Bro, hands down.
They used to be.
Okay, when I think of Young Turks, I think 2006, 2007.
Thank God for the Young Turks because they spoke out against the war in Iraq
and Afghanistan, and they were clear and concise, and we needed that.
But I think at some point that company may have been turned inward
or their rage was kind of twisted around and refocused.
She could tweet back at me.
I didn't realize you were referring to a news story from ABC where they legitimately brought
up the defense in court that police were welcoming them in the building. She ignores it. And it's not
the first time Anika Sparian does this. Every single instance in which you reference me and I
offer up a polite response, she ignores it. So either she's purposefully ignoring a legitimate rebuttal to her wrong statements,
which would make her evil, or she's, she doesn't realize I'm saying these things,
but regardless, every step of the way, when the young Turks have the opportunity to assess the
evidence, respond, because I've DM'd Cenk Uygur on numerous, numerous occasions. I've known the
guy for a long time. He won't, the last time I saw him, he screamed at me.
And I saw him at VidCon.
He walked up to me.
This was years ago.
He shakes my hand.
How's it going, man?
How things have been?
I've been on his show several times.
Something happened in this country where people like you say, yeah, maybe in 2006, Cenk Uygur
was a good dude.
Maybe.
I saw him at VidCon in maybe 2016, I think it was.
I can't remember.
And he walks up to me and he shakes my hand.
He's like, how you been, man?
How are things going?
What's going on with YouTube?
How are things working for you?
And then I see him at Politicon a couple years later and he screams in my face for no reason.
He might have been having a bad day.
He was in the hallway talking to people.
I was like, hey, Cenk, how's it going, man?
I want to talk to you about a video you did.
And they start screaming at me saying all these crazy things.
He was probably hungry.
Yeah.
But look, I don't want to my point is when you get to the point where i got no beef i have no issue
with them i recognize our disagreement and they refuse to assess the evidence and then continue
to mislead their audience i think it is so important when you're going to create a news
you got a news organization you got like an entertainment magazine and you're going to be
one or you're going to be there kind of be you've got an entertainment magazine and you're going to be one or you're going to be the other.
Kind of be in the middle.
It's a very dangerous location.
See, this is a characteristic of the left that I think has happened over the last few
years, and it's that they can't really even look at your argument.
They can't bring themselves to even consider it.
So they just try to ignore it.
They pretend it's something else.
They don't want to look at what you're actually saying because that would be hard.
I think it would be hard for them.
And so they tend to just ignore anything.
Cognitive dissonance.
Yeah.
It's like we can't have that cognitive dissonance, so we're just not going to see what you're talking about.
We're not going to look at it.
Or even do a Google search. My favorite, and just while we're on the subject, is we did a segment on the show a year and a half ago or so where we talked about, there were five different studies that
said conservatives tend to be more attractive than liberals. The point I specifically brought
up was that there is attractiveness privilege, an idea prevalent among the left that people who are
more attractive tend to be more privileged, and those who are privileged are more likely to be
conservative or independent.
Instead of addressing the context,
they just made a video saying,
Tim Pool's ugly and stupid.
So this is the issue I take.
I'm willing to 100% assess the situation of January 6th
and say, anybody who is violent
and fighting and attacking cops,
you get charged for that.
The people who knocked over barricades
or did anything like that
or grabbed shields or hit people, tried shoving their way in the tunnel. You commit a crime when you do
that. You write, you go to, you go to jail for that, depending on the severity prison.
And then there were other circumstances in which Alex Jones said, don't go in the building and
told people not to go in. And the January 6th committee subpoenas him and tries going after
all his records, which is an insane abuse of power on the press. Then you have regular people like you mentioned, these old ladies who are told by the police
they are allowed inside the building.
And now the media is trying to make it seem like every single person was a writer who
smashed a window and climbed through a window.
You know, 74 year old lady to climb through a window, bro.
Why is it that the Young Turks and other people like them will not even Google search this.
Why is that when I do a video, they watch enough to clip the video out of context to know where to cut the context to make sure their audience doesn't see what I'm actually talking about.
But then they don't investigate further because it's an intentional action.
Yeah, I think it might be because they don't want Trump to get reelected.
I didn't want to talk about my fear that the noise could be construed as violence,
like noise weaponry, because I really support
the truckers, so I didn't say anything about it the first
night. I chose to
ignore what I knew was real
because I didn't want to hurt the people I wanted
to win. But then I was like, I can't live like that.
I got to be honest. It is a type of weapon.
You can harm someone with noise.
I think that sometimes you just got to concede, like, reality.
But, Ian, I mean, there are a lot of things that you could harm someone with.
That doesn't necessarily mean it's being used in a harmful way.
That's true.
But to your point, Jonathan Haidt did research, which unsurprisingly showed that conservatives are far more likely to understand left-wing positions than left-wingers
are to understand conservative positions and anyone who's conservative who has consumed left-wing
media understood this without his research and left-wingers who consume conservative media
don't exist which is why we have this problem yeah well when i talk to people left-wingers
people on the left, about my movie,
most of them won't watch it.
They don't, no, I don't want to see that.
That was an insurrection.
Those people should all go to jail.
They don't want, they won't, they can't bear to look at it.
I even had to fire my own agent just over the Christmas holidays
because I was talking to him about, you know, about the movie
and the premieres and stuff,
and he's like, yeah, I'm not going to watch that.
I go, dude, you're my agent.
You're not going to watch my work because you're afraid of what?
It's just a movie.
Michael Moore makes them for your side all the time.
You can't even look at it?
And he said, no, I just don't want to.
That was a riot
full stop and i go well i guess then you don't want to be my agent anymore was that over the phone
or via text yeah it was over the phone weird yeah well so i think what happens in their minds and
again maybe i'm over pathologizing here but i think this is probably a reasonable assessment
of the potential motivation here a person might okay, there could be information here that will change my mind,
but I don't want to be the person who knows that January 6th wasn't an insurrection because there
is a very high social cost to pay for having that awareness. You bet. You bet. Especially in
Hollywood. Absolutely. I went back to my parents' house for Christmas and they were like, well, what do you think about that insurrection at the Capitol?
I was like, what do you mean?
Like when they stood inside the old building and just stood in the hallways.
And I was like, the government can operate from anywhere digitally.
It's not – a real insurrection would be cutting off the electricity to the continent.
Like if you want to talk about insurrection.
And they were like, huh, he's right.
Well, the other thing too about that day,
it's like the media only showed you the violence. They only showed you the little pieces, the clips
right at the Capitol of the windows being broken and Ashley Babbitt being killed and all that.
That's all they showed you. There were 2 million people there that day. There were so many people
and they never showed you the crowd. Yes,? Yes. We have estimates of two million people.
Wow.
There's a shot in my movie that I had never seen before we found it of just the size of the crowd, and it's breathtaking.
I mean, it's amazing.
They conflate the rally, which occurred some ways away from the Capitol, with the insurrection. So for a lot of people, maybe like your parents, Ian,
who don't actually investigate or know what's going on,
their image of this is probably Trump brought hundreds of thousands of people to the Capitol and stood outside and said,
go be strong and shut it down.
Whereas what really happened is that there was a rally blocks away
where a bunch of people rallied and waved little American flags, and trump while he was still speaking people went to the capitol yeah and the
people that were breaking in they were breaking windows at the capitol 15 minutes before trump
stopped speaking who were those people this guy ray epps that's been in the news lately he he and
his crew were taking down all the fencing and all the signs that said, do not enter a restricted area.
They took down all that fencing so that when the people walked from the speech to the Capitol building,
they didn't know that they were entering a restricted area.
And a lot of the defendants are charged with that, entering a restricted area.
And they said that we didn't see anything that said it was restricted.
Is there video of Ray and other people removing those signs?
I've seen some of it.
It's not in our movie, but I've seen some. What concerned about is how deep fakes in the future will start twisting video
But for now video seems to be a pretty good document of evidence kind of but I know deep fakes are real
yeah, they're they're they are real and
What do we do about them?
Well, I don't know
Well, but but here's the problem
I mean people are talking about deep fakes,
but we have that technology is not far along enough for us to make the argument.
If it is that far along, we don't know about it.
As far as we are aware, that technology is not far along enough
for something like this to be faked.
But even with the actual real video evidence that is there and available,
people still buy into the narrative.
Yeah, they won't look at it.
They will not take that in.
No, yeah, I agree.
It's like, continue your point.
I'm sorry, I did not mean to interrupt.
No, well, they just won't look at the video,
whether it's fake or not,
if it doesn't support their narrative.
This past week, they just released three more angles
of Ashley Babbitt's death
that were taken from different places in the hall. And you can see Ashley Babbitt's death that were taken from different places in the hall.
And you can see Ashley Babbitt was actually telling the people breaking the windows to stop that.
Stop doing that.
Ashley Babbitt was talking to the police officers and saying, what are you doing?
Why aren't you calling for reinforcements?
There's more people coming up here.
And she actually punched a guy that was like trying to break a window.
So it's like this whole narrative about Ashley Babbitt being some crazed right-wing Trump supporter is absolutely a total lie.
And they knew it from the beginning.
What, somebody punched through a window and then she stood up and they saw her and they fired?
Well, the window had been broken.
And, you know, I don't know why she got in that window.
But there is video of her telling people to stop breaking stuff, stop doing that,
talking to the police saying, you need more people up here, you've got to stop this.
She was on the side of the police and uh her husband aaron says that he he feels like she she he knew that
she was claustrophobic and he thinks that just sort of the crush of the people coming up and all
the chaos caused her to panic and to jump into the window and that's when the police officer fired
and if you watch the video bird the the police officer fired. And if you watch the video, Bird, the police officer,
has his gun trained at that window for like 30, 45 seconds.
Yeah.
Before she's even there.
Probably the window got broken.
He was like, watch that entrance.
Something's going to come through there.
And while he's standing there pointing the gun,
people are right here near him hitting the window with two by fours and trying to break the
window and he never never trains the gun on them he's pointed right at that one window
that sounds to me like um he was angry at the person who broke the window and wanted them to
suffer that would be my assessment that because he didn't feel threatened, obviously.
Otherwise, he'd focus on the other side of things.
But my assumption is that he sees someone smash the window and he goes, that son of a...
And he pulls his gun and he's like, come on, do it.
Have you ever been in combat before?
Yeah, but me?
No.
Well, Ashley was not the one who broke the window.
No, I know.
So that's why he had his gun drawn at the full time.
Because he wanted whoever broke that window for whatever they did, he was going to get them.
And so when she came in, she's the one who got the bullet.
Yeah, maybe.
So how do you – I think what we see when – you make the movie Capital Punishment.
You just said your agent wouldn't even watch it.
What's happening is a natural sorting algorithm is occurring.
People who are willing to say challenge, I will challenge my perceptions.
And that's why you have people like Bridget Phetasy, politically homeless, now more aligned with intellectual dark web types, conversing with Ben Shapiro conservatives.
Because these are all people who are willing to be wrong and have their perception challenged.
What's being sorted between – it's being sorted between two groups, those who don't want out, who just want to be told what to think, and those who are more inquisitive, more discerning.
I mean, I've said something similar to this before.
There's the uninitiated and the more discerning, the people who're doing with law enforcement, January 6th committee, and the fact that regular people are refusing to even learn the truth?
Where do you think it goes?
Well, in terms of the government, they're never going to give this narrative up.
They're never going to stop.
And what they're doing to these defendants now is railroading them into pleas, plea deals.
You know, most of them are charged with you're facing 28 years.
You go before a D.C. jury that's 96 percent Democrat.
I don't like your chances.
If you plead guilty to this one little felony, then, you know, you maybe do six months or maybe even you just get probation.
But you can't vote anymore.
You don't can't own a firearm and they are they're
basically by doing this they are neutralizing a whole group of people that disagree with them
and the intention that they're trying to spread a ripple through the community
of you know by by prosecuting these people so publicly, they're sending the message that don't ever be one of these people or we'll do this to you.
So I think the government is never going to give that up.
They're going to run that into the ground, and the only thing we can do is try to fight that.
You just said something very scary.
You go before a jury that's 96% Democrat. We can't function as a constitutional republic if there are two
tribes, and I mean that literally, and they will put you in prison if you're in the opposing tribe.
Yeah. And another thing about that D.C. system is that you have to be licensed to practice law
in D.C. You can't, like, if you get arrested in Florida and you have a good lawyer, you can't
bring him with you unless he's, you know,
licensed to practice in D.C. So all these lawyers, they're all D.C. residents.
Ninety-six percent of them are Democrats, too.
And they literally hate the people that they're defending.
They want them to go to jail.
And so these court-appointed attorneys are really working for the government to try to punish these people
that dared stand up to the Democrat Party.
Judiciousness isn't supposed to be nonpartisan, I believe.
It's supposed to be.
Isn't that the point?
So when did that change?
Right after it got formed?
It's cultural enforcement.
It used to be when we were a cohesive nation that people viewed each other as Americans.
People took jury duty a bit more seriously
and now because of the overt tribalism of the culture war we uh i i said it in reference to
pennsylvania it it takes it shows what's happening here now in pennsylvania when the republicans said
hey this universal mail-in voting law is unconstitutional the judge's response was
you're a republican so you lose and I'm not exaggerating. He said,
your guy lost, and now you're coming and suing. His guy, he's an individual bringing a lawsuit.
His political party is irrelevant to the material. Well, it turns out afterwards,
oh, you are right. It was unconstitutional. But the judge was partisan. And now you have
this ruling of unconstitutionality. Ititutionality it's a it's republican judges saying it's unconstitutional and democrats saying it is if we're at the point and we are if
if this is how the country is going to work if you're a republican if you're right winger and
you advocate for a right-wing cause in dc you will go to prison because they will bro well they had
that last rally i didn't go to because of what you're saying now. I'm saying if you do something that is construed as a crime,
I'm not saying like literally walking down the street,
they're going to come and arrest you.
I'm saying if you are in a protest and advocating for something,
I'll put it this way,
if you brought a boat down to D.C. to protest abortion,
yeah, they're going to lock you up.
They're going to throw the book at you.
Whereas when Extinction Rebellion does it, it's a slap on the wrist, clear it out, tow it out, and then send them either way. yeah they're going to lock you up they're going to throw the book at you whereas when extinction
rebellion does it it's a slap on the wrist clear it out tow it out and then send them on their way
you know i didn't go to the robert malone big speech in like i think it's february 23rd or no
it was a month ago or something three weeks ago and i i i'm still i'm almost kicking myself
because i didn't go out of fear i was afraid that the government was going to stage a false flag
and then arrest a bunch of people and like i don't want to live in terror of my own government.
And that's intentional.
That's what they're trying to do is make everybody scared.
That's why they're doing this to these people.
That's why the overwhelming show of force in their little suburban neighborhoods,
handcuffing their wives and daughters, that's what they're doing.
And even me, after I went on January 6th and I shot a bunch of iPhone stuff and just like a tourist,
I was afraid to tell anybody that I went right after it happened because I was like,
I'm not going to post these pictures because the FBI might look through the pictures
and find somebody in the crowd behind me or something.
It was such a pervasive attitude of like they're coming after us.
And that is intentional.
It's what they want.
I think you're right about them making an example of the people who were involved in January 6th
because I think that's what they're doing with Joe Rogan right now.
They're like, if we can get the biggest guy and make an example of him.
And I wanted to say, too, this talk about the jury is making me wonder if this is what drives a national divorce.
I don't know that there's a way to coexist
in a world where if you get arrested for something like a traffic ticket or something in DC,
and you have to go before a court, you know for a fact that they're going to throw a book at you,
going to throw the book at you because they disagree with your politics.
How do we go on like that? I don't see that as being sustainable.
And national divorce always will lead to civil war that doesn't end well yeah well
so so what are your thoughts on that there's been um there was a period where we had a few uh a few
experts in security say oh civil war is possible i became particularly bullish on it saying i think
we're heading in the direction but now we're actually getting democrat personalities the
guardian put out an article saying the civil war has already begun. We're in it. You've got the Washington Post now saying the same thing. When we talk
about the courts making their rulings based on political party, it's scary. And then you come to
us and say, oh, and also the juries themselves are comprised of individuals who are tribal
partisans. Sounds to me like Civil War. Well, I think the reason that they're talking about this the democrats that
are talking about civil war it's it's honest that's what they want that's what they want
they're trying to sell this idea that everybody who went to washington on january 6th is some
sort of crazed violent you know insurrectionist seditionist who wants to start a civil war and
create you know that's that's the narrative that they're selling.
I agree.
You want to know why?
What's the one way you get rid of the Constitution?
Or martial law.
Civil war.
Yeah, civil war.
You can't get rid of the Constitution through any means that exists within the current government.
The government would have to be in some way split, fractured, or altered.
So if there was mass rioting and they came out and said, we need the Insurrection Act,
martial law, you can't get rid of the Constitution. Even under Bush's presidential Directive 51, you can't get rid of the Constitution. In a civil war, the Constitution is gone.
Emergency.
Right.
The Directive 51 is terrifying. Is it in place
right now? Yes. I was reading about it last night
and it's saying, like, if there's any issue
anywhere,
that, like, economic or environmental,
any, like, severe issue,
they say, it's like the word severe is in there, and who
defines that? The president, apparently, that they can
just, what is it, like, morph all power?
I didn't go so far on it last night,
but is it that they can morph all powers under one
branch of government?
Are you familiar with Presidential Directive 51?
No.
It's not been tested.
It may just be a stupid statement made by Bush.
It's been revised several times under the previous presidents.
I think even Trump may have revised it.
Basically says that if there is any kind of disaster anywhere in the world, the president has the authority to dissolve the government and reform it under a single branch, a constitutional
government. So it would have to abide by the original rules. And the three branches of
government would be controlled by the national continuity coordinator under the executive branch.
They could try it. It might go to the courts.
But it's an interesting circumstance when one branch asserts the authority
of the other two
and then one of those branches
by which they're subjugated
by this other branch says,
we reject your authority.
It doesn't really make sense
how that would play out.
Like if the executive branch says,
you report to us now
and the court says,
we hereby decree we don't.
Well, the guys with guns
are going to show up and say, yes, you and that's that's that's a power created by bush
and there's been other versions of it but it's been updated several times it's not a coincidence
the executive branch has the word execute in it well that's what it means for yeah to not only
make something happen to execute the plan but also to execute someone that's yes literally
what the executive branch does. They're crazy.
They're the ones with the guns who go out and enforce the law.
I thought they were supposed to execute the law.
Well, sure, not execute the people, but I mean.
Well, that's why they're trying to take the guns too.
Exactly.
That's part of it.
They want to make sure that we can't defend ourselves if they decide to attack.
Well, let's be honest. If they did, we have seen things like Waco and Ruby Ridge.
Most people would just smile and put their hands behind their back
and go along wherever they were supposed to be going.
And that's what happened in, let's use the most talked about trope and cliche,
Nazi Germany.
There were a lot of people who at a certain point just said
it's getting bad we got to get out of here but most people just said it can't happen here yep
until it did and uh a lot of people you know i was i've been i've been reading more and more about it
for obvious reasons i've also been reading about the spanish civil war people they'd show up to
the house knock on the door and say for your safety you're coming with us get in the cart
and they'd be like okay let me grab my things.
And they'd say, okay.
And they'd take the people off.
Often without their things.
Just, no, no, no.
Take your family.
You're coming.
It's for your own safety.
You have to do it.
And people just said yes.
We're seeing that in Australia.
Not like they're taking people in Australia to work camps to rot them out until they die.
But it's crazy to me that there's a video out video out of australia where the cops show up to
a guy's house unannounced and they say sir you have tested positive for covid and you are now
being indefinitely quarantined get in the van and he goes all right mate and he just hops in the van
and i'm just like wow crazy yeah the germans used typhus as an excuse they said a lot of the jewish
population had typhus i don't know if that was the reason for taking them on the trains, but maybe that was
like, for your own safety, we don't want you to get sick.
It was one of the propaganda things they were
claiming about, oh, these ghettos
are dirty and they have typhus, so they have to be taken
to special facilities. And we know how that
went. And, you know, look, we look
back at history. I don't think history is
going to repeat itself. History rhymes.
And so, you know, people who are ignorant
will be like, oh, that can't happen here or that won't happen.
And it's like, probably not.
No, to be honest, some form of it will.
Well, see, they don't have to actually murder you now like they did then.
They don't have to murder you and dispose of your body.
Now they can just digitally erase you.
They can just neutralize you by removing your voice from the community.
So it'll happen differently.
It's like what they're doing with Rogan.
You know, you're just, you have to be careful
or the government will just erase your point of view, demonize you,
destroy your ability to express yourselves if you have wrong think, if you have a bad
opinion.
They used to ostracize people, throw them out of the country and not let them back in.
But now, that was before electricity and telephones and stuff.
Yeah, they don't even have to do that now.
They just shut you down.
Well, that's why it's called character assassination.
The entire idea is you neutralize the threat that somebody poses by telling the truth or
by stating some facts that you find to be inconvenient.
Or by lying.
Or by lying, sure, you can perform a character assassination on someone who has actually lied,
but yeah, it's very frightening.
And at some point, you wonder how much they really have to do to cover anything up,
how much information they really need to hide from the people.
It seems to me that all you really have to do is attack and character assassinate the people who are speaking the truth and then
even if the facts seem fishy to the general public and they're not willing to buy into your narrative
they're going to be too scared to say anything they take like a wait and watch approach and if
the person ends up getting busted it almost doesn't matter if they were right or wrong they're like i
don't want that to happen to me right that's what I've been saying for a while about the police.
You look at what's going on up in Ontario when that cop arrests that 78-year-old man.
Here's the crazy thing.
So there's this viral video where a 78-year-old man is honking his horn and the cop arrests him.
This was before honking was banned.
So this is just some cop deciding to bully an old man who honked his horn.
You look at the cops who are seizing gasoline.
You look at the cops who are defendingizing gasoline. You look at the cops who are defending Antifa.
They don't care.
They literally don't care.
And it's crazy when I meet cops who are like,
I'm a big fan of the show.
And I'm just like, I hope you're one of the good ones
because we got too many bad ones.
The Capitol Police are all some really evil people.
I mean, you look at what they were saying on TV,
how they were lying about things.
I get that there was a bad fight
and there was rioting and stuff.
I'm not discrediting that or anything like that.
But it's crazy how they're willing to just say the most absurd and ridiculous statements.
I was – the next day I was – the craziest thing is they're like the – the left is claiming the stress of it resulted in officers taking their own lives and stuff like that.
Whoa.
Yeah.
I'm like, come on, man.
We don't know why those – some officers did take their own lives. Yeah. And I don't know if that man. You know, we don't know why those officers, some officers did take their own lives.
Yeah.
And I don't know if that's related or not,
but it's just such a dirty, dirty thing.
They're milking this as much as they can.
I will tell you this.
You know who I'm most frustrated with?
The people who actually rioted,
fought with cops,
and tried to break in,
and literally broke in the building.
Because it's just like,
watching people, you know,
it's like watching someone walking down the road,
and they're like on the side of a cliff.
And then they look to their left and start to walk towards the cliff.
And you're like, please don't do that.
And they go, I'll be fine.
Like Alex Jones was there saying, stop.
Don't go inside.
Don't do it.
They didn't listen to him.
A lot of young people thinking they're going to reload their save game if something goes wrong.
Well, in the movie, you just see we have all these people,
suspicious-looking people, exhorting the crowd,
come this way, get in here, go into the Capitol, break in.
They're just constantly berating these people, screaming at them.
And you also have the Capitol Police, who are in many instances the aggressors here. They were firing flashbangs and tear gas grenades and pepper spray into the middle of the crowd.
That's what they were doing.
Driving them forward rather than trying to keep them from coming forward.
They were just firing into the middle of the crowd.
And, you know, the stuff that happened in the tunnel, it's now being revealed that Roseanne Boylan was probably beaten to death by a police officer.
During command was probably like, we can't contain this.
Just get them in the building.
We'll bust them all later.
Well, I don't know about that.
But in Ferguson, one of the nights I was down at the riots, people had stopped rioting and protesting.
It was maybe like the fifth night.
They were just dancing in the street playing music.
One cop from the police line at the far end of West Florissant
casually walked up, pulled a flashbang, and just threw it into a crowd of dancing people.
And that immediately started a riot. People then started screaming, running towards the police,
yelling. And then all of a sudden, people who didn't live in the neighborhood started
smashing windows and stealing stuff. cops did that so when i say
abolish the police i'm telling you this right now you look at what is going on with the purging of
wrong think they're they start by saying if you're if you're unvaccinated there's a mandate you're
fired well guess what only the people that fall in line is do it and do as they're told are going
to remain on as police they're going to remain in military then they're going to put those national
guardsmen in your schools teach your kids like they're doing in new mexico they're having them drive
school buses in massachusetts they're going to replace more and more jobs because of the
emergency and the labor shortage with national guard and they've already purged the ranks of
anybody who would disobey who disobey the narrative you don't want to live under that boot
so your best bet right now is just hey call the bluff of the left yeah abolish the police
and then when they're like no no no i thought you wanted to i think call the bluff of the left yeah abolish the police and then when they're like
no no no i thought you wanted to i think it's funny when the left like they freak out because
i tweeted abolish the police and they're like well i mean but but he wants militias and i'm like
that's literally what you asked for yeah you said community police what do you think militias are
yeah what do they think was gonna well social workers actually tim is what want. Because they don't really want to abolish the police.
They want control of the police.
Yes.
No, that's exactly what it is.
And the police, with a smile on their face, are putting boots on people's necks.
It's funny.
You mentioned the police officers.
And yes, there were officers harmed on January 6th.
That's very unfortunate.
However, I should point out that according to major cities chiefs association
72 percent of major city law enforcement agencies had officers harmed during the blm rights 72
percent that is a massive number and you know i don't care you know i literally don't care that
they were injured i mean i i think it's horrible when anyone gets injured or is assaulted. If you're going to show up to Attila's gym and arrest the owners or try and prosecute them and seize money from their bank accounts, you want sympathy from me.
The police in this country just lost.
I have no sympathy for that guy, no.
No, I'm just – look, man.
There are small offices and departments.
I'll put it this way.
Sheriff's offices with duly elected law enforcement, oh, I think they're great.
They still do bad things there was there was a woman who was arrested for opening
her cafe during lockdown and it was the sheriffs who came and arrested her the deputies yeah that's
that's that's bad but these big city police departments i'm referring to specifically
they they they they did nothing while the riots were happening it's true and when it happened i
said well look i don't blame them for defending these businesses from people who won't support
them but then they turn around and became the vandals who locked down their businesses and destroyed these people's lives.
So I sit back at these cities and I'm like, y'all deserve each other.
But here's my main point.
If the police departments are purged of wrong thinkers and all that's left are going to be those who toe the line, that's what we've seen over the past two years.
The people, the cops who stayed on during the BLM riots after all the disrespect, that's a great mental test, psychological test.
Are you willing to endure extreme pressure where everyone hates you, where we won't support
you, and you shut your mouth and get on your knees?
And these officers who stayed said, yes, that's a good sign for a despot.
They then said, okay, now you got to inject yourself with something.
And a bunch of them were like, nah, that's too far for me.
But a lot of them said, yes, sir, may I have another?
And they got their second shot and their boosters.
And now we're at the point where you think that these departments will defend your right to liberty?
No.
No, certainly not.
If there ever was a group of people who were going to goose step to the marching orders of a despot, it is the modern police that have remained through all of this,
refusing to stand up for themselves,
refusing to stand up for others,
falling in line over overtly illegal orders and rule by decree.
I'm not going to defend any of those people.
Yeah, when you talk about illegal orders,
because it's called law enforcement.
So if you're getting illegal orders from a top-down authority
and you're the law enforcement,
you're supposed to not follow the
illegal order and stay lawful.
They don't care about what's legal.
They don't know what's legal. There have been many
instances in my life where I've had cops tell
me that something was illegal and it wasn't.
New York is a great example. That's a frozen
zone, the cop told me and my friends
during Occupy Wall Street. And I'm like, you made that up.
There's no frozen
zones. They just made it up one day.
And you see what's going on with the BLM mural painted in New York City.
The 27 officers who defended it on an illegal seizure of taxpayer funds for a political
message.
Yep.
And the police were like, boss told me to do it.
I'll arrest anybody who opposes me.
Yo, we're in dark, dark times now, man.
Agreed.
I think, but in terms of, and maybe this is a small white pill, but I think there's a
white pill here.
And despite all of the media propaganda, a large number of the American people, a large
swath of the population are still seeing through this.
According to a Rasmussen report survey that was done back in July, only about 50% of the
population who was surveyed at that time supported Nancy Pelosi's January 6th committee
in investigating that, whereas two-thirds of American citizens surveyed wanted an investigation
into the 2020 BLM riots. So no matter how much they're lying about this or trying to call this
an insurrection and tell us to ignore that, the majority of the American people do see the truth
about it. So we're getting this. Let's jump to the story we have, and we'll see what's going on in
the U.S. CBS News reports U.S. truckers planning protest convoy, perhaps starting in L.A. for Super Bowl, DHS warns.
That's right.
The Department of Homeland Security is warning an American convoy may begin.
If it's anything like what we saw in Canada, it will work.
It'll be very effective, and it'll probably end up winning.
They're already starting to pull back on the mandates.
That would have been so funny if you just went on to the next story right after.
That's it. We should do that one night.
But I am wondering if this is even a real story.
I know there have been
conversations about locking down the
Super Bowl, but that seems weird to me.
Almost like the idea was seeded
specifically to ruin the Freedom Convoy.
Because right now, regular people
don't know, like, I'm talking about average people
sitting at home, of which there are very few, because I think most people don't know like i'm talking about average people sitting at
home of which there are very few because i think most people are polarized they're like i don't
know a whole lot about what's going on with that convoy thing but the the manipulation the propaganda
has mostly failed you go on reddit and people are like they're just working class dudes they're
drivers the propaganda is not working well you want to piss off regular people shut down the
super bowl and i'm oh I'm suspicious of DHS's
warnings.
I think that
it's likely that they could
be just sort of trying to say
there's a threat out there that's
not really there to make it seem like
those extreme people,
those truckers, they're going to try to kill
your Super Bowl. Public warnings
just don't make a lot of sense to me.
If a military comes out and is like, China has you.
We think that China's UFOs.
Like, come on, dude.
What are you telling me for?
Yeah, I don't.
You would only tell the people that it's a need to know thing.
They would tell L.A. law enforcement about this.
They wouldn't in surrounding areas.
They wouldn't be telling the public.
Did you see that clip of the journalist arguing with the was it was Dan Price?
What was the name?
I don't know.
He's the Canadian guy. No't remember the guy's name. I don't remember his name.
He's the –
The Canadian guy?
No, no, no, no.
It was a journalist talking to an American official about Russia's false flag attack
because the U.S. keeps saying over and over again Russia is going to stage a false flag.
And then he's like, what proof do you have?
They're like, well, we issued a transcript.
That's something you said happened.
What proof do you have?
And then he goes, crisis actors? Are you this is alex jones stuff yeah and then he goes on to mention i think
like the wmds and like the war in iraq i'm like that guy just snapped something happened to him
he woke up and the narrative broke yeah he was just out of the matrix yeah and and the the the
government guy was going oh what are you, on Putin's side?
Yeah.
It's so funny how we return to that, too.
I remember during the 2012 election when Mitt Romney said something about Russia being a growing threat,
and of course he would.
He's like an establishment swamp creature.
But the response from the left was, oh, my goodness, isn't this hysterical?
You know, the 80s called.
They want their villain back.
And then in 2016, when we're even more removed from that era it's russia russia russia what a strange villain it's like we were joking about this in in burn after reading when she she wants to sell the information to the russians and
everyone in the cia is like the russians yeah why yeah like what would they yeah well also because
if if you're not familiar with that movie, the information was nothing. It's also the information was nothing.
It was like the Russians.
Like, what?
I got a question for you guys.
If a bunch of truckers showed up in D.C. and then something happened that a mass casualty event took the lives of these truckers, how do you think the left, the establishment left, and many leftists would react?
Mocking.
They would laugh until there was no one to bring them their food.
Yeah, exactly.
They absolutely would laugh.
They would celebrate it.
That's pretty scary.
I'd say they deserved it.
Look at what they do to Ashley Babbitt.
Sometimes you get glimpses of humanity from people like Jake Tapper and stuff.
So maybe people would be like, this is it.
This is the moment that it went too far.
Well, I guess, you know, sometimes the brain slug that infected his mind and took over his body loses control.
He's able to break out.
I see light.
Just all of a sudden on CNN, he's like, I love all of you.
Honey, I love you.
And back to the narrative.
You make me think of the Kent State shooting in 1970, May 4 at Kent State.
I went to Kent State, and it was a big deal on campus.
There was a big crowd of students protesting Vietnam, and then the National Guard came
out to try and quiet them down.
They were throwing rocks at the National Guard.
They opened fire on the crowd and killed four, injured others.
And it was a huge national, just a tragedy.
And it basically was the beginning of the end of Vietnam.
Neil Young's song.
Yeah, and Buffalo Springfield.
Well, Neil was in Buffalo Springfield.
Oh, interesting.
Yeah, but for what it's worth.
That's such a good song.
Yeah, it's a great song.
And the people who lost their lives weren't protesters, I'm pretty sure.
Wait.
Yeah, Neil was in Buffalo Springfield.
When the shooting in Kent State happened, yeah, it was bystanders.
It was just people who were on campus walking by.
One guy.
He used to sit on that hill.
But there was also injuries.
One guy took a bullet through his wrist, I think, and it paralyzed his hand.
I would sit on the hill and envision all the people and just think about it sometimes.
It's crazy, man.
One thing here, and I mean, this almost in some ways makes it more frightening, but I'll
issue a caveat to this idea of left-wing people hypothetically laughing in this situation.
And we seem to believe that many of them would.
I think there's also an argument to be made that those among them who have some level of of empathy for their opposition and
don't necessarily hate everyone who stands in their way would still feel pressure to not care
about the loss of life because as soon as they stood up and said these are human beings they'd
be rejected because that's exactly what happens to them when they say that about the unborn or
any other group that the left is okay with the death of zombie horde yeah yeah it's it's it's it's mindless you know that we were
talking about this with your film your agent you know getting fired these are people who don't care
about the truth they don't want to hear the truth they just want to hate yeah they want to be a part
of it imagine a mob of people with pitchforks and torches they don't know know. They don't care. They're just going to do whatever the mob does.
I've watched it happen in real time.
I've been in these major protests where I've seen people lose it and attack random people.
I was in San Jose during that infamous Trump rally.
I filmed a guy getting smacked in the back of the head with a bag of what we think were rocks.
Oh, wow.
Went viral overnight.
And there was also a guy who got beat up because they just, someone decided to beat him up
and the mob just said, that's the guy we're beating up.
Turns out he was a part of the mob.
There was a kid, some 16 year old kid
was walking down the street.
Someone started attack chase running after him.
The whole mob chased after him.
It's absolutely insane, but that's what we're dealing with.
The, I suppose I'll put it this way.
If you've got liberals, conservatives, moderates, you know, traditionalists, progressives that are all in alignment, but they all agree with liberty and being inquisitive.
So there's like Jimmy Dore.
Jimmy Dore is progressive and lefty, but he believes in the truth.
So we like the guy, you know, because, you know, we disagree on politics, you know, all day and night.
It's clear that what divides us is not policy it is simply there is a a mob of people that want to
be a mob and there's everyone else who want to live and understand and solve problems those are
the two groups that are clashing right now and the left is kind of the the way they've been brought
to this point by the democrat party and the leaders in that movement is way they've been brought to this point by the Democrat Party and the leaders in
that movement is they've been told over and over again, you are the good people. And it's that
self-righteousness of like that surety and that self-righteousness. Those people over there are
bad. They hate gays. They hate black people. They hate everybody. You know, you're one of the good
people. So no matter what they say, we have to remain above them.
I was having a deep conversation last night about this and about after 9-11.
All of a sudden, this narrative of good and evil started getting shoved down my throat by George Bush and everybody else around him.
And it was like, they're bad.
You're good.
We're the heroes.
God's on our side.
Good versus evil.
Good versus evil.
Then superhero movies started coming out.
Good versus evil.
People are brainwashed. They think it's good versus evil, good versus evil. Then superhero movies started coming out. Good versus evil. People are brainwashed.
They think it's good versus evil now.
It's terrifying.
I don't think good versus evil is the problem.
Trust me, it's not.
There's destruction and creation, but all the other stuff is perspective.
You're just wrong.
I understand what you're saying.
They want you to think that. They want you polarized.
I understand what you're saying, but someone swatted us, and we got swatted twice.
And why would we get swatted a second time?
Is it evil to try and kill someone because they have conversations you don't like?
Well, like I just said, man, there's creation and destruction.
It depends on who you ask.
I'm going to give you a different answer than everyone else, though.
So give me your answer.
What's the question again?
Yeah, from what you said, killing someone for what?
Trying to get someone killed but people killed
because they have conversations you don't like oh for me that i think that is terribly now now
now who would disagree with you the people trying to kill the person having the conversation people
well to them you're the evil i mean it's all perspective and who's telling the story who's
in control of the narrative but so i agree with you that people have different perspectives but
some perspectives are wrong that's the point And they would say the same thing.
And they would be wrong.
It's okay to say I'm right and you're wrong sometimes.
But it's okay to be wrong also.
But not any longer than you have to be.
As soon as you get the new information that shows that your previously held assumptions were incorrect, you have an obligation to accept those.
I think 99.9% of humanity has agreed that killing people for no reason is wrong.
And a slightly large single-digit percentage probably agrees with preemptive murder for the sake of ideology. Like if the Iraqi president is so dangerous, it's okay to get rid of like 80,000 citizens.
Yeah, communists tend to be morally depraved.
No, that's the American government.
The American government did that.
The Democratic Republic of the United States invaded and murdered citizens.
But you're arguing that that's evil.
It is evil.
But people don't think it. People are like, hey, the ends justify the means
because that guy's so dangerous.
And sometimes that guy is so dangerous, like Hitler.
Ian, you are incorrect.
On the right and the left,
there is populist unity that invading
foreign countries and blowing people up is wrong.
What about not?
I mean, what about firebombing Dresden to stop Hitler?
You're talking about a response.
So, like, if some guy in a house starts breaking into other people's homes and killing people, and then we go, and he's in one of the houses, so we're like, the only thing we can do to stop this guy is burn the house down,
but it might hurt somebody else.
Like, this guy's already killed so many people.
That's called a difficult decision.
This is good because I think you're talking about individual one-on-one interactions.
There, now we can start to get a nuance of good and evil.
But in the society, it's dangerous to slap that label around.
Well, yeah, I mean, whether you're talking about, like, firebombing Dresden
or firebombing Tokyo or nuclear bombs firebombing tokyo or nuclear uh bombs being dropped in hiroshima and nagasaki you can agree
that one particular side of the conflict was correct and had to win while also saying this
was objectively morally evil you should not make civilians a target of warfare that's a position
you can hold but you're not saying but that doesn't mean but no no no no no you're not saying
that you're saying like actually they shouldn't have done that they were i was on their side am on their side, but I don't think that that's something they should have done.
You can agree with – you can side with somebody and still say, but don't do that.
You're not pledging like undying agreement with everything they do or have done.
Let me explain something for you, Ian.
If I say I've reviewed as much evidence as I can from what happened on January
6th, and there are some people who did some things that were very wrong and should be held
accountable, and there are some people that are being harassed and even tortured by the
government that's wrong, I'm trying to be as objective and honest as possible to be fair
and just to as many people as I can so that we can all live in harmony. Trying to help people flourish, stopping the bad, stopping the pain,
stopping the suffering, and promoting growth is typically a good thing.
When you have other organizations that lie on purpose to create destruction
and cause pain and suffering, and then lie to convince people
that we're the evil ones, that's evil.
I know, man, but now we're talking about living and lying
and knowing you're lying and acting anyway.
I know this phone is made by slaves.
I know that, and I'm doing it anyway.
Yeah.
And so what, am I living a lie, just walking around like la-di-da?
Do you acknowledge that it's evil?
Yeah, like if they were here, I wouldn't be like la-di-da. I'd be like, free these guys, but they're out of sight, out of mind. So I know it.
But Ian, so what I'm catching, I think you actually believe so firmly and deeply in morality
that you're arguing for moral consistency, but you're seeing that as saying that morality
doesn't exist. I really think on some level you do believe in good and evil. You just aren't
acknowledging it. I really think you do because you do believe in good and evil. You just aren't acknowledging it.
I really think you do because you get really upset
when a person is hypocritical about their moral values.
And why would that be upsetting for you if good and evil weren't real?
I think you're right.
I do believe I am good, but I am a product of my parents
and what they told me good is.
But did you choose to accept that definition
and have you chosen to act on it?
Because that is your own free will.
That's not just your parents. It jived with society with society so i accepted it is that why you accepted it basically are you going to tell me you've never made a moral decision because you thought it was
the right thing to do and not because it jives with society i've done that too exactly exactly
so you can't just say well it's all relative and it's all my parents at some point you made choices
no yeah let's let's talk about the movie industry.
Because there was something I wanted to bring up actually in all of this context,
and it's the response we saw from the establishment on the left over Alec Baldwin and the shooting.
Because I've gone off on the Alec Baldwin thing many a time.
Based on everything I've already read about what happened with Alec Baldwin, for those that aren't familiar,
he was on a movie set.
He had a live gun, a single-action revolver.
I can't remember what ammo type it was.
I don't think it was.45. I'm not sure.
But he shot and killed
a cinematographer, pointed the gun at her,
pulled the hammer back. Then they say
the gun went off and killed her. He said he didn't
know that she got shot for 45 minutes, which is
to imply that while he was holding the gun and pointing it at her, pulling the hammer
back, and then it banged and went off in his hand, for which he felt the recoil. When she collapsed
to the ground dying, he simply walked away and didn't bother to ask what was going on. He did
not even know. She must have just fainted, he said. So in my opinion, based on this story,
they've tried blaming the armorer who was on the set.
At first, you know, we were like, wow, it sounds like an accident.
Once we got the real details, I think it is more likely that Alec Baldwin was extremely angry.
He's a hothead.
And he shot and killed this woman.
I think he wasn't, he was just in a fit of rage.
I don't know how you could argue that this circuitous, all these events took place that coincidentally landed a live bullet in a gun where the sear was broken, so the gun went off.
But, Nick, you actually worked with that armorer.
Yeah, when I saw that, you know, I was reading about the Alec Baldwin thing when it first broke, and it said, you know, the armorer there. It was her second movie, and I was like, oh, my gosh, it's Hannah.
I mean, you know, I'd done the old way with Nicolas Cage back in August,
and she was the armorer on that film.
And, you know, she seemed competent to me.
She taught me how to load an old Winchester, and, you know, I mean,
she did a good job.
As far as I can tell, I didn't have any problems with her.
But the thing about the Alec Baldwin thing that makes absolutely no sense is, number one, how did a live round get in there?
I mean, I've never been on a set where there was a live round.
I mean, it just never happened.
And the other thing that occurred to me, too, in reading the steps,
he was handed the gun by a first AD who said it's a cold gun.
That's not how you do it.
The armorer brings the gun to you, shows you everything that's in the gun.
If you're firing the gun, the armorer will say you have two rounds here,
and there are blanks. You pull the trigger twice, and then it's done. There's no more bullets in the gun, the armorer will say, you have two rounds here, and they're blanks.
You pull the trigger twice, and then it's done.
There's no more bullets in the gun.
So you know exactly what's in the gun at all times.
And even if they say cut, they come and they take the gun away from you for 30 seconds.
When the armorer brings the gun back, he does the same thing.
He shows you every single time.
I don't know how in the world that happened with Alec Baldwin.
With the first AD just handing him a gun, Alec Baldwin not looking in the gun, and then pulling the trigger.
You worked with this Hannah, this armorer.
And when you worked with her, she showed you the gun and explained to you the ammo, all that stuff, as you described. Yeah. Well, and the other thing that I read about the Alec Baldwin shooting is that Hannah,
the armorer, was not in the room because
SAG has these COVID restrictions and people have
designations of A, B, or C. And if you're in the B
group or the C group, you can't And if you're in the B group or the C group,
you can't be indoors with people in the A group.
So Hannah was not allowed to be in that church when he was using the gun.
But it sounds like the production team is liable to some sort of felonious activity.
Oh, absolutely.
Incompetence, if nothing else.
And the other thing, too, that was a rehearsal.
They weren't shooting the scene.
Every time I've ever done a rehearsal with a gun, it's a rubber gun.
They don't even give you the real gun until you're actually shooting the scene
where you have to see the real gun.
I've heard that they had live rounds and they were target practicing
between shoot days and takes and stuff.
I don't know how to confirm that or deny that but i've heard that we have heard that too i mean that's
very very uh that's not that's not normal and so that's what they're doing and i can also believe
it like out in the in the west out in the desert a bunch of them just kind of like 20 people making
a movie on the fly kind of like having fun drinking beer at night yeah and a lot of it too
was that you know he he had had some crew problems or whatever.
A lot of the crew had quit because of the conditions on the set.
There were previous discharges, you know, accidental discharges
that they said the set wasn't safe.
A lot of the crew had quit, and so he had replaced them
with less experienced people.
So there's a big convergence of a whole lot of incompetence that went in there.
But to your point, I don't know how a live round got in that gun.
And for him to be, if it's like you said, if he was there in anger.
He's got decades of experience.
And not just that.
It isn't that there was simply one live round and one gun one time.
You're saying there were multiple discharges on set that made crew feel unsafe.
Yeah, and this is not live round discharges.
This is just blanks.
But, you know, whenever a gun's going to be fired, you say fire in the hole.
Everybody knows because you've got to get the ear protection out, whatever.
There were just a couple of times when the gun went off and everybody went,
what the hell?
What are you doing?
I was the one saying that I've heard that they were doing target practice with live rounds on set.
And there were a mix of live rounds and dummy rounds.
I've heard that too.
I've been reading about it.
And I don't know how to confirm or deny it.
But, I mean, come on.
There was a live round on set.
Usually it's a different day, but if you're shooting a lot in a movie,
they will take you to a range and let you feel what the recoil is on a real gun
so that when you're acting and you're shooting blanks,
you can act like you're actually firing the real thing.
So that happens, but that's usually like if that happens, it's on a different day,
and it's totally separate from, I mean, if they're just walking around back and shooting some cans or something, that's not acceptable.
The response we end up seeing, strangely, is tribal.
People defending Alec Baldwin in the establishment left, people criticizing him in the anti-establishment right and it seemingly has nothing to do with
politics i mean alec baldwin is you know democrat you know activist and all that stuff maybe that's
a big reason but what happened with alec baldwin is not political yet here we are well i think the
only thing people see as political is the aftermath of that him getting away with it and he's getting
away with it because he's part of the left-wing establishment.
They don't want to go after him because...
Just like you were saying earlier,
the people in D.C. are going to be put in front of Democrat jurors
who will convict them.
Alec Baldwin will never see a day in court.
You think the people are like,
I know he did it and I know he's responsible,
but I love his work so much that I don't want to put him in jail
because I want to see another Alec Baldwin movie.
He's not that great.
He's not that good.
I think it's a tribal thing.
I bet he has zealous fans that are like,
I'll follow him to hell and back.
But what percentage of the population could that be?
Like.000.
You know, like 80,000 people or something.
If you saw Team America, World Police, you know,
Alec Baldwin is the greatest actor in the world.
100%. I mean, I like his work.
Backdrafts.
Yeah.
Beale Juice.
Yeah.
Great movie.
Fantastic.
I've liked him in certain things, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
His talent is undeniable, but also, you know,
that's not what this is about.
No.
And it should never be about.
No.
Took someone's life.
Except in my case.
Of course, yeah.
That's all very talented.
You're extremely talented.
So one question I'd like to ask,
Nick, I'm curious,
as you were working
on this documentary,
what was the most interesting thing
you discovered?
Well, when we went into it,
the original title of the movie
was The Trouble with Free Speech
because I saw this
as like the government
suppressing free speech
and trying to keep these people from,
you know, deter these people from ever coming to Washington
and making their voices heard again.
But what we wound up discovering is that by talking to these people
who had been visited by the FBI and the way they were being treated,
that was the most shocking thing.
It's just like every story in this movie, you just can't believe that this is america they are coming to these people's houses these are people that have never been
arrested for anything before in their lives and they're 6 a.m swat teams 20 rifles red dots on
their chest come out with your hands up uh handcuffing their wives and daughters and breaking down doors.
And, I mean, it's real terrorist kind of Gestapo-like tactics.
And as these stories started to pile up, I was just like,
okay, this is the story we have to tell.
This is what this movie is about.
It's about how these people are being treated
and why are they being treated that way. And so that, you know, to realize that your government is intentionally terrorizing
innocent people. Only one of the people that we interview ever went in the building,
and those are the two twin 74-year-old grandmothers. Everybody else is outside,
never went inside. So we started talking about how you had worked with the armor from the Alec Baldwin movie,
Hannah, what's her name?
I can't remember her last name.
It's Gutierrez-Reed.
Gutierrez-Reed.
Yeah.
So we mentioned you worked with her.
You've been in TV shows and movies.
How has it been trying to continue that career after making a documentary like this
and voting for Trump?
I can't imagine they're very happy with you.
Well, no, but, you know, I've worked in the business long enough
that I have friends who know who I am and hire me anyway, you know,
and, you know, sometimes it's not, you know, I don't know.
I still continue to get work here and there.
It's not as much as it used to be.
That may be because I'm old or or it may be because i'm
a right-wing radical republican insurrectionist you know i don't know but i you know like i say
i have relationships that uh you know sustain me to this day and and i'm also at this point in my
life i'm really much more interested in pursuing movies that i want to make that i want to have
some control over and i'm not so much interested in just like trying to get a job
in somebody else's left-wing garbage what's uh what are you what are you working on now or is
there something you've worked on recently um well uh terror on the prairie is a movie that's coming
out with uh gina carano that'll come out j 10th. That's the Daily Wire movie.
But that's already done.
I'm trying to put together some movies, a couple of narrative features that I wrote with a partner, Blake Ellis.
One called Where I'm Bound, which is about gospel quartet music in the 60s.
It's a very sexy subject. And I'm also trying, there's another documentary I want to make about the 1972 Olympic men's basketball team that got screwed by the Russians.
Oh, wow.
And 11 of those guys are still alive.
This is the 50th anniversary this year of that game.
And all those guys have refused the silver medal to this day,
and the one guy that passed away put it in his will
that no one in his family can ever take that silver medal
because they were just blatantly cheated out of the gold medal.
Interesting.
What's the story there?
Basically, it was a close game,
and it's interesting because a lot of the best players in America
didn't play that year.
Like Bill Walton wouldn't play.
He had just come out of UCLA, and this is before they let professional players play.
So it was not – I mean, it was a good team, but it wasn't like the best of the best.
And so it was a very close game, and they replayed the last three seconds of the game three times until the Russians won.
What?
America was up by one point.
Doug Collins had hit two free throws with three seconds left,
and Russia was taking the ball out of bounds under America's basket.
They had to go to length of the court.
They played the three seconds the first time and threw the ball out of bounds,
and time ran out, and the referee said oh no he
called timeout before before the ball was thrown in and they're like no no he didn't nobody called
timeout and then they did it again they they replayed that three seconds again some other
problem and they had like well not to tell the whole story but there were five judges that let
them replay the the three seconds a third time.
And on the third time, they threw the ball the length that the Russian center pushed the American out of bounds,
caught the ball, and put it in, and they won by one point.
Was it a Soviet judges, all five of them?
Well, no.
It was two pro-Soviet judges and two pro-America judges.
And the fifth judge was supposed to be this judge from Egypt who was pro-Western.
But when the Israeli athletes were murdered nine days before this game,
Egypt pulled all their athletes out of the Olympics, and that judge was not there,
and they put in another judge who was Russian.
Well, this is a good story.
This is going to be a good movie.
It's a great story.
It really is.
It's a great story because it's geopolitics.
It's the Cold War.
It's all that stuff.
And also with the killing of the Israeli athletes at that Olympics,
that's kind of why this story got forgotten
because it wasn't as important as that.
What's a budget for a movie like that?
Well, I see it as a four-hour documentary.
I could probably make it about a million, 1.5.
I could probably do it.
How does a person come across money like that to make a movie?
Well, you've got convince uh investors that you can
make some money with it you know and and you know a lot of times with a movie like this you pitch it
to espn or you pitch it to netflix that's the easiest way but to make it independently you
gotta you gotta and that's what we've been trying to do because Netflix won't talk to me. Are you taking donations to produce the movie?
We're not taking open donations.
That's a complicated process.
So we're trying to find investors.
You spin up a corporation that owns the movie and then that's –
Yeah, like an LLC.
Yeah, I just recently found out that's kind of how Hollywood works is when they make a movie, they make a corporation that owns the movie.
And then they can give like people percentages of that corporation.
Right.
That work on that movie.
And every movie kind of has to have its own company.
So, yeah.
But it's, you know, I have some people interested.
And, you know, that's something that I would really like to do soon.
Have you done anything with crypto?
See, I'm old. I don't even know what
crypto is.
When you're talking about crypto, I go,
I don't really know. Cryptos are a savior. Oh, actually, crypto is our tracking
mechanism.
It's the evolution of digital currency.
Literally, when you guys were talking
about crypto before, I was like,
okay, I have nothing to add. I don't know.
I don't even know what it is. It's like an immutable ledger
is the difference between that and banking.
There's an online ledger that supposedly can't be tampered with, so everything's there for view.
Decentralized digital banking.
Right.
And stores of value.
Different cryptocurrencies have different characteristics, so they're easier, harder to move.
And then sometimes you get into it where certain types of crypto can do things.
Like on a certain network, you can give someone one, and it'll give you a thousand views on the network or so they're called smart contracts
that they can build in so that they actually do things instead of just being like bland currency
well like how do you buy stuff with it um give it to somebody you got to sell it usually for dollars
on coinbase or something like that or you can trade it to someone that wants to take it for
currency as simple as this i uh i would like those sir, and I'll give you a rock for it.
Okay.
So if I've got an account with five crypto in it, I could be like, hey, that jacket's mighty fine.
I'll give you a crypto for it.
I'll just generically say Ethereum.
And then you'll be like, okay.
And then I just text it to you.
And then how do I – but like can I take that to the 7-Eleven and buy gas with it?
No, you move it over to your wallet on this website called Coinbase.com or something like that.
And then they'll buy your Ethereum and give you dollars.
And it will direct deposit it into your bank account within a day or something.
Soon.
Probably in the next five, ten years, you will be able to go to 7-Eleven and use crypto.
Costa Rica just named Bitcoin their national currency.
Costa Rica is El Salvador.
El Salvador.
Really?
Yeah.
So they're a crypto economy now.
And it's been really great for their standard of living.
No kidding.
Because Bitcoin is – there's only so many.
So it's – you can't print more.
It's mined through a complicated process.
And there's only so many that can exist.
Which means after a long enough period of time,
the value can only go up because the amount of Bitcoin
can only go down.
Well, there you go.
Predetermined deflationary currencies.
It's pretty cool. Then you can sprint up a million
infinite amounts of them. Currency's going to be
way different in the future. I don't think
the whole idea of current and currency,
that's electrical currency.
They're killing the dollar.
The dollar's not going to be worth very much very soon.
Well, that's why Ian was saying that crypto may be our downfall, our trap.
Because I've talked about this before.
While I'm a big fan of Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, this new decentralized financial technology, it's all trackable.
Yep. You can go online and search Bitcoin addresses and see where the money has come from and where it's
gone so if you post on your website like here's my bitcoin address i can take it i can search it
and i can see where you've put your money you got a smart enough computer you can track every single
transaction every single you know everywhere no matter what they do with it all right so uh great
reset bitcoin seems like it'll work really well for him, to be honest.
Wow.
Yeah.
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We got Buck Muskie. He says,
My country has lost its democracy.
Even if we can somehow get rid of our authoritarian
leaders, how can we as citizens ever
come back from this great divide the state
funded media has worked so hard to create?
We're doomed. I would like to
say I think it is about friendship.
Like what you were saying, Nick, in Hollywood, no matter what your political things are, you have friends.
You have a community of people that know you and love you and that you love that will work with you no matter what your political values are.
And I think that's going to always be the case.
All right.
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Jeffrey says, Super Bowl tickets are like $10,000.
Corporate AF.
Oh, okay.
Is that why they want to shut down the Super Bowl?
Because no regular person can go there anyway?
But also, it's like, do they even want to shut down the Super Bowl?
Yeah, we don't know.
We have no clue.
I mean, I enjoy the Super Bowl.
Not that I'm a big football fan or anything, but Sunday we're going to be hanging out.
We're going to have wings and pizza.
Yeah, I like a good slant.
Hit your wide receiver over by the sideline, especially if they can jump over the cornerback, man.
It's something like everyone has agreed we're going to hang out and eat good food.
Everyone has agreed to chips, dip, and wings.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
How are you going to argue with that?
It's like a holiday.
It's Cincinnati in Los Angeles.
Well, I don't even watch the game, to be honest.
We turn it on, and then we eat wings, and everybody hangs out.
Tim goes, I can't wait for the halftime show.
I just love these.
Watch the commercials.
The commercials are honestly pretty funny.
Usually, but I feel like they're going to be woke this year.
Oh, no.
They were woke last year.
They were terrible last year.
They're not going to stop.
I was on a Super Bowl commercial one year.
I think it was 2007.
Are you serious?
It's the Orbit gum commercial where they're clipping my nose hairs in the mirror and then
my roommate eats his noodles.
Really?
Yeah.
It's online.
It's on YouTube.
Check it out.
I'm going to pull that up.
Write that down.
I want to pull that up after the show.
Super Bowl, man.
It's a lot of fun.
But I like the woke commercials because –
They're funny.
Yeah, it's hilarious.
It's like – you ever see the movie The Room?
Yeah.
Oh, hi, Mark, or whatever.
That's what it's like.
It's so bad, it's good.
But then just everyone can realize that when the really awful Super Bowl commercials come out,
we can just make videos about them and talk about why they're bad.
That's true. And then it's content.
This is booming.
I'm half kidding, by the way.
I can't wait for history books to
talk about the Super Bowl commercial that saved America.
Like, whatever company
donates a lot of money
to either A, getting the history books made,
or B, funding the political career
of a politician who decides they need to use that curriculum
is just going to be blown up, up like this Super Bowl ad was revolutionary.
It fixed the country.
It solved the civil rights struggle, whatever.
One tweet can say all right.
BD says need to get Viva Fry on to talk about the legal side the government can and can't do.
I would love to have Viva back on, especially with his experience on the ground with the truckers.
Once they lift those restrictions, I bet we can.
For once they end. Yeah yeah once the honking well once viva's you know wrapping up his coverage whatever
that might be maybe he'll stay afterwards maybe he'll he'll leave early i don't know but viva
we'd love to have you on the show big fans you guys can support viva fry f-r-e-i on youtube
he's been streaming on the ground. Welcome to Costco. All right.
Stephen Hung says, the convoy spread all over the world.
When we win, people of the future
will recognize gas cans and the Canadian
goose as symbols of freedom, not the bald eagle.
How does that make you Americans feel?
It's okay. Hong Kong. I dig it.
I don't know. The Canada goose is awesome.
I'm all for it. I got your back, bro.
We got those
silly geese here.
It's the Canada goose, right?
Not the Canadian goose?
I think it's called Canadian goose.
You want to Google it?
Oh, what is that?
I'm picking it up now.
It's like gray goose.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
It's a little different.
That's a bit different?
It's a little different.
When I lived in LA, there are these giant white geese that hang out at this one park
by the water, and they're massive.
Yeah, Canada goose.
Canada goose. And they run up to you, and they're massive. Yeah, Canada goose. Canada goose.
And they run up to you, and they attack you and try and steal from you.
Like, they're not scared of you at all.
No.
They're on the golf course.
They'd be scared of me.
I'd teach them a lesson, you know what I mean?
They're tall.
The last of my kind says, don't fight an alligator underwater.
My man Ian rolled a 20 when he said this.
Dude.
That was in reference to, if you're going to argue with someone, don't play their game in their way.
That's true.
And we'll be seed so much to the left by giving them the linguistic territory, right?
We use all of their terms and we debate them.
It's crazy.
Or the right.
Yep.
It's attack.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, it's because you know what it is?
The establishment left is a big clique of trendy morons on the playground who for
no reason like yo-yos but because the tv told them to and the republicans are like the suit wearing
stodgy kids who are like well i could yo-yo too but yo-yos are dumb anyway why won't you listen
to me i'm trying to argue with you not every single person but eventually people start breaking
away and they're like i don't care for yo-yos man let's go hang out somewhere else or like the crowd of yo-yo people
are just getting really mean and nasty i just you know i can't understand is the desire to be a part
of an of a of a mean girl squad you know i mean that somewhat figuratively like to throw it back
to like the young turks they're just mean people you know like? Angry for sure, yeah. Well, mean is an interesting word.
Like in math, the mean is the average.
And I think of when you're mean.
Okay, okay, stop, just stop.
They are disrespectful.
They are angry.
They are generally mean people.
Instead of saying like, I hereby, you know,
I humbly disagree with you, good sir.
They like mock appearances.
They call people dumb and stupid
they you know anna has overtly been like i'm better than you like from the guy from globo
gym and dodgeball yeah i just don't understand why anybody would be a fan of like those people
i was watching hassan uh uh the other like this morning when i was watching his take on joe rogan
and he was like joe's not he's like joe like like, Joe Biden is way more racist than Joe Rogan.
I'm like, I can understand watching Hassan, at least in that capacity, because he was calm about his approach.
It's probably why he got so much bigger than the Young Turks.
The Young Turks are trying not being so mean to people because it's kind of off-putting.
Let me quickly deal with my theory about the meaning of life.
When you talk about the word mean, in math, mean is an average.
So when they say, what is the meaning of life?
I believe the meaning is the process of bringing life back to the middle.
And it's constant.
When things are bad, they get good.
When things are good, they get bad.
And that's the meaning.
Moderation.
I'm not quite sure that moderation is a verb.
It's a present tense verb.
Just a semantic argument, Ian.
So if I'm mean to somebody, I'm bringing things back to the middle.
Yeah, kind of.
Depends on who you're being mean to.
Sometimes you notice if you're really nice to mean people, they get more angry.
Yeah, it's true.
That's the meaning.
Yeah, interesting.
That's the meaning.
I guess so.
You're bringing, it's like, you know, it's forcing it apart, actually.
Your niceness comes in, so it's an equal and opposite reaction.
All right.
Richard Cranium says, Nick, loved you in Justified.
The chemistry between you and Timothy Oliphant made that series great any chance you'll be present in the upcoming
revisit revisitation of the series not much of a chance no i mean the series that they're doing
now is set eight years later i was one year away from retirement in the show if i if i show up in
this one i'll probably be a a Walmart greeter or something.
That's awesome.
All right, let's grab some more Super Chats.
Arctic Shadow says, The Daily Wire is releasing a new movie tonight.
What a great night to have on Nick Cersei.
Can you ask him what he thinks about The Daily Wire standing up to Hollywood's toxic culture?
Well, you know, I think that what The Daily Wire is doing is what we have to do,
which is basically build a new Hollywood.
We have to build our own apparatus.
We have to make our own movies.
We have to build platforms to deliver them.
And I think, you know, Daily Wire is really kind of setting the tone for all that.
And they made a really smart decision putting me in their next movie.
Terror on the Prairie coming out June the 10th with Gina Carano. What is that about?
Well, it's Terror on the Prairie.
It's about a family in the 1880s,
and I play a Civil War captain who's unrepentant
and has a little revenge that he has to execute on a number of people.
Union or Confederate?
Confederate.
Ah, so he's met at the North and he's –
No, it's more than that.
I mean, he was – it's sort of like – I don't want to give away the whole plot.
Oh, it's awesome.
But he – there's a number of people who were traitors to him that got his daughter killed.
So set in the 1880s.
So you're using single-action revolvers on set, I'd imagine.
Yeah, yeah.
Same with Alec Baldwin.
Winchesters.
Yeah.
And was that where Hannah was the armorer or no?
No, that was not.
Oh, that was a previous movie.
She was on.
Oh, that was the other one with Nick Cage.
With Nicholas Cage.
But it's similar.
I mean, that one was kind of set in the same time period.
Yes.
So I was trying to figure out all the guns and stuff when I was reading about Alec Baldwin.
Like, what gun would it have been?
What ammo?
What size and all that?
Looking at the era of the movie.
So right when the story broke, I researched the premise of the film, the time period,
to figure out what kind of gun he'd be using on set.
Right.
And then you quickly learn it was a single-action revolver
that can't be fired unless you pull the trigger.
Right.
You got to pull the hammer back first, then pull the trigger.
Yeah.
So that sounds intentional.
But hey, that's just me.
Yeah.
All right, let's see what we got here.
Bobby Moody says,
Give, send, go says,
Canada has zero jurisdiction over them.
That's right.
But we'll see how that plays out.
John S. says,
The Young Turks have always been evil,
even way back when they spoke out against the iraq war they only spoke out because they were paid to hate bush i mean i don't know about all that i didn't watch him all that long ago if
there's one thing that chank knows how to do it's hate he really hated george bush i was i watched
i know it's just it's so weird no chank you're cool man i like you chinks uh you look i
can give him respect for for his hard work you know and i i mean that legitimately but i don't
understand why they're so mean maybe that's why their views you know are lower than they were in
the past like they've got they've got six five times the subs that we do and they get less views
per video and maybe it's because they're just mean people they're miserable yeah nobody leftists are
basically miserable
at the core. I think beyond that too
the fact is everyone knows that if they want to hear
a left wing perspective on current issues they just turn
their television on. And I understand that
TYT is an establishment left in the exact
same way but that's a much
smaller niche audience. It's true.
You can get their stuff all over
the place. Every network has it.
Jay McMiddle.
He says, for Ian, the Turks wouldn't spit on your gums if your teeth were on fire.
You're a good dude, man, but bad people exist.
Propping them up legitimizes them.
Well, I mean, I wouldn't expect them to do anything for me.
They don't owe me anything.
Even if your teeth are on fire, bro?
Yeah, they don't owe me anything.
Gergie says, I don't care what Anna says, Tim.
I think you are one hot hunk of a man.
That's right.
Thank you, Gergie.
That's right.
Did they say that or did you?
That's right.
I said that. You're correct, sir.
Yeah, no, I don't care if they're mad that we cited these studies.
It's true.
Conservatives tend to be more attractive than liberals.
It's literally –
Or is it that attractive people tend to be more conservative?
Exactly.
That was the point I was making.
I'm living proof.
Right?
Exactly.
If you grow up and you're attractive, you're going to be more individualist because you'll get by easier and think anybody can do this.
More happy with the status quo.
And if you're ugly, you're going to need to band together because you have less power, less privilege.
It was so weird because I was making like a lefty argument about privilege and they got mad at me for it. It just goes to show that it's not about principle or issue.
I call it bugs bunnying. I do this on Facebook every so often. I get people who are tribal
leftists to argue against their own positions because I adopt the position they're supposedly
for. So, you know, I can make comments that are seemingly pro-choice and then all of a sudden
have these tribal leftists on Facebook making comments that are strangely pro-life. Like, you know, not completely,
but weirdly in favor of government control of healthcare, restricting women's access.
It's called, you know, Bugs Bunny had the duck season, rabbit season thing. And then he's like,
it's rabbit season, flips it on Daffy. That's why I call it Bugs Bunnying. So it's like,
I do a segment that argues the left's position and then the young turks come out make a video insulting me and mocking the idea that
actually benefits the left's perspective on privilege i didn't do that on purpose but it's
just a funny circumstance well and speaking of pro-choice on the after show big discussion about
gosnell on the documentary yeah we're gonna be you guys seriously if you don't know the story
of gosnell you want to check out this members only segment we're going to do.
It's so gruesome that I don't think we can actually talk about it live on YouTube.
And it's not about like an overt, you know, getting censored thing.
It's an overtly unfamily friendly thing that's going to make a lot of people gruesome.
Gruesome.
But we'll talk about it.
Watch the segment.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We'll read some more.
Please.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
And you directed or?
I directed it. Yeah. And played. It's crazy. It's crazy. And you directed or? I directed it.
Yeah.
And played Gosnell's attorney.
Oh, wow.
Yikes.
All right.
Let's see.
Gabriel McLeod says, on a podcast with Jordan Peterson and Sam Harris, it was said that,
quote, no amount of evidence could ever be offered to change the minds of people who
do not value evidence.
People will remain willfully ignorant because it is safe.
And that's why it's just, don't argue with these people.
What's the point? We need to build infrastructure.
Gab
is talking about, I don't know, maybe not Gab,
but I think they're talking about doing a payment processor
or something like that. Yes, that was Gab.
Dan Bongino was mentioning they have
more right-leaning
payment processors.
The right just needs to build their own infrastructure
so they can't be cut out of the economy.
And you know what? It'll create a parallel economy, but so be it.
And their own entertainment system.
Yeah, absolutely agree.
I want to figure out a way for people to share content on the internet
for free and then
it to track the content back to the
creator so that I can let
you sell my movie without having to interact with you. You'll get a cut and then the content back to the creator so that like i can let you sell my movie without
having to interact with you you'll get a cut and then the majority goes to me because i'm the
creator but just for it to be able to be followed and then i think i'll cut back on piracy yeah
all right wes says mr cersei head of state you played a very stereotypical republican
funny movie chris rock is great your bit was However, how do you look back on that 2003 film in today's
political climate? I was actually playing Al Gore. Chris Rock even told me, he said,
you're doing Al Gore, aren't you? Because it was very stiff and, you know, it's just sort of,
you know, the characterization. But I mean, you know, that movie was, it's one of those
movies that doesn't say which party anybody's in.
They never identified it as Democrat or Republican.
But you have the progressive sort of black candidate, Chris Rock,
and I'm the vice president who thinks it's my turn to be president.
So that's Al Gore.
I didn't see it that I was playing a Republican.
I was playing Al Gore.
Interesting.
All right.
Taylor Cook says, a law is just what some group of people with just enough power agree to.
This is why morality is so important.
Legal doesn't mean right.
Illegal doesn't mean wrong.
And a good example of this is if you think the law is what matters, a big mistake the Republicans made just going for judges, there are many laws in the books that we don't enforce.
Have you ever seen these stories about like wacky old laws there's like a what i like to reference where it's you can't put a pie on your windowsill on sundays or something
like that and it was because back in the day when you lived in these small towns it would attract
bears or something now it's meaningless so you put a pie on your windowsill nobody cares
but it's overtly illegal we just don't care anymore so the law is is it means a lot less than cultural
enforcement if tomorrow every person in america woke up and said you know it should be illegal
to do jumping jacks then the cops would be like hey look everybody wants us to arrest you for
doing this you know it just happened steven says i love the sound of honking in the morning it
smells like victory Greta Thanos
says people need to wake up and realize
the tactics being deployed are in direct
defiance of the constitution with the intent
to destroy the constitution
this entire scenario ends with the extermination of anyone
of western European descent
I don't know about that part
at the end I think it's more about
ideologies because if you look at
the Latino migrants in this country they're starting to become overwhelmingly pro-freedom.
And they're siding with Republicans on a lot of these issues.
So a lot of people – I can't stand the people who think race is the key component of everything that's going on because it's not.
It's ideology.
It is.
Completely ideology.
And when they talk about diversity,
they only are talking about race.
They're certainly not talking
about diversity of opinion.
Right.
That's why they said
Black Panther was a diverse movie
even though the majority of actors
in it were black.
Yeah.
It's not.
It's just woke.
That's right.
I forgot about that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Tony Bones says,
Nick Cersei,
a.k.a.
U.S. Marshal,
Art Mullen, and I just started re-watching
justified still as great as i remember right on great show yeah yeah all right let's see what
else we got here let's see i don't know what that would mean so we'll just keep going
brian ackner says if it was an insurrection who stopped it.
Also, Lydia, when can you get Patrick and Adriana
from Red Pilled America on?
Oh.
They are creating some great content.
Interesting.
I'll look them up.
They're good friends of mine.
Oh, cool.
They did an episode on me not long ago.
Very cool.
I'm writing them down.
All right.
Ben Hickson says,
Tim to an abused spouse. You need to get away from says, Tim to an abused spouse.
You need to get away from them.
Ian to an abused spouse.
They still love.
They could change.
Ian is the problem.
Allow it.
Allowing bad faith actors to get away with everything for peace.
I actually lived in an apartment building about six years ago, and I could hear the
man beating the woman through the wall.
He would come home from work and she'd be like, meh, meh, meh.
And then he'd be like, meh.
And then I'd hear, meh, meh, meh, meh, meh. And then he'd be like, meh. And then I'd hear,
meh, meh, meh, meh, meh.
And he'd go,
meh.
And then he'd go erratic.
Like she taunted him
and then he'd start
slamming walls
and her screaming.
So I called the cops, bro.
Do what's right.
All right,
here's a very important one.
Bomb Globe says,
Ian, babe, baby, hun, sweetie.
What?
That's it.
That's what I'm talking about.
Jason M says, Nick Cersei, sweetie. What? That's it. That's what I'm talking about. Jason M. says, Nick Searcy is amazing.
Art Mullen rules.
Ian, he sounds like a plant from the feds.
Oh, no.
That's what I'm trying to portray.
Don't you get it?
We need diversity.
He's a method actor.
Yeah, he sure is.
Daniel Brent said, Ian's rolling a 20 tonight in the form of 20 different ones.
Oh, no.
Give that voice some dmt who said
that daniel daniel brent's up dude nice one so uh in dungeon to dragons you roll for things to
happen and when you roll 20 it's the highest you can get so it's like critical success and when
you roll a one it's abysmal failure so that's what it means when ian rolls i'm extreme okay
means he's not doing he's making bad points
leave it to me
but there are some people
who like Ian
they're evil
yeah they're evil
it's part of why
I do well
I do well on shows like this
because when I swing and miss
Tim's really good
or you guys
like being like
I'll take this one guy
we'll push back
Jason M says
I don't know
I don't know if I can make out
what you're trying to say
in the beginning he says are you don't know if I can make out what you're trying to say in the beginning.
He says,
are you sure you know Ian?
100% he talks like he's a plant
from the feds.
Seriously,
pay attention to his words.
Yes, we know Ian.
Ian, I don't think Ian's a plant.
I don't think Ian does enough.
Like, if he was a fed,
the feds would be like,
come on, do something.
I had a vision last night
of going to Congress
with Thomas Massey
and telling everyone about friendship and how important it is.
And bringing them all together and having a picnic out on his farm or something.
That needs to be a cartoon.
Let's all go.
Let's get Congress to go on a picnic together.
The power of friendship.
That's like my little pony.
Because I looked over at Nancy Pelosi.
She was like, he's right.
After all is said and done, it is about hanging out with your friends. Well, I mean, to be fair, Nancy Pelosi
and Mitch McConnell realizing they're friends
and then just like
going on top of a building
and watching a Hunger Games-style fight
of poor people while they drink expensive wine.
That's the kind of friendship they'd have.
Maybe they are friends and it's theater.
Yeah, I bet they are.
They're all in drama. Cornelius
says, Ian, I love you brother
man you are rolling ones tonight
Tim you should look into getting John Schaefer on
he's an amazing guitar player in the band
Iced Earth
and he was at the Capitol for January 6th
was he in the Capitol or was he at the rally
that's an interesting question
AA Dub says
last night was the first time in my 41 years
that I donated to a political campaign.
I sent $50 to both.
25 years in the kitchen, 15 years as a chef.
I would like a chance to help with free Domestan or as a private chef if you're interested.
Awesome jacket.
Nick.
It is a cool jacket, by the way.
My daughter made this jacket.
That's amazing.
Did she sell them?
She made it.
Does she sell stuff?
Sell clothes?
No.
She started quilting a few years ago, and then she's built up to this.
That's awesome.
It's awesome.
It's incredible.
It's cool.
It's a great thing.
We are planning on hiring a chef.
Yeah.
But I don't know to what degree we can get a good chef.
I had a chef hit me up just now during the show, and he wants to come on and talk about
Oh, well, you know.
Yeah.
So the idea is with the new facility and as we're expanding, it will actually be cheaper for us to have someone buy the food and cook it as opposed to constantly ordering out.
Super expensive and unhealthy.
Yeah.
And for the crew, for a variety of reasons, we often do order so we can have events here either for meetings or because we're having a get-together for – we film the green room and so we need supplies.
So we were thinking – I was thinking about it. I'm like, we could just hire
someone. It would be so much cheaper to just pick up
a bunch of steaks from the store and then just make
some really healthy stuff. Everyone would
be eating better. It would be
saving us money. And you'd be hiring, getting
someone a job. And we'd be creating jobs.
We would be job creators.
Just make sure they're
not infiltrators. I'll taste the food. Ian has to eat it creators. That's right. Just make sure they're not infiltrators.
I'll taste the food.
Yeah, Ian has to eat it first.
I sure will.
Dionysus says, Ian's
roll streaks is taking a hit this match.
Come back, we'll come out of nowhere.
Come back, we'll come out of nowhere.
If anyone thinks he's
rolling ones, there will be a comeback. Ian's going to roll some 20s.
I learned in school, actually, when I was
little, I used to get all As.
And then I started getting A-minuses and Bs, and they're like, what's wrong?
And I was like, I don't like doing homework.
They're like, well – and I realized they expected me to get As because I had gotten As before.
So I was like, well, if I try a little less, then they won't expect too much from me.
So that's kind of how I live.
B-plus.
And then when I crack it out of the park, they're like, whoa.
Yeah, I had kind of an epiphany when I was a kid, and I was just like, grades don't matter.
Huh.
What's the point?
I said that to a teacher.
All you got to do is pass and D passes.
If you want to go to the next grade, just do the bare minimum.
C's get degrees.
Yeah.
No, they still say it, Lydia.
What do you get by getting straight A's?
And I was just like, my whole life I got straight A's.
And for what?
I liked it.
And so I was just like, meh.
My buddy's dad gave him like 20 bucks an A.
Well, I guess it depends on if you want to go off
to a prestigious university. You've got to have a really high
GPA. Yeah, I did. I didn't do that.
Yeah, I didn't do it either.
Marshall says, can Nick
yell Parker?
Parker? Well, you shouldn't yell, but is that from something?
Parker? Yeah, that was
a show called Seven Days.
Oh, around.
1998 to 2001.
Wow.
Cool, yeah.
Old school.
I love it.
I've been around a long time.
I'm tired.
What year did you start?
Well, I moved to New York in 1982 after college to be an actor.
Where'd you go to college?
University of North Carolina.
Was it for acting?
English major. But I did a lot of plays. How of North Carolina. Was it for acting? English major.
But I did a lot of plays.
Was there acting?
How do you get into acting in New York?
Is it shout up and knock on someone's door?
Yeah, audition for plays.
I mean, back then, the path for an actor back then was you get a play
and you get somebody to come see you.
Because there wasn't YouTube.
There wasn't anything.
And so you just tried to get somebody to come see you in a play.
You'd send flyers to agencies and be like, I'm going to be performing here.
Yeah, send out little postcards with your picture on it.
Hi, this week I did this.
And then I had a few beers.
And whatever.
You just try to put your face in front of them.
It was so interesting to be in Hollywood during the transition to internet video.
Because people kept doing that.
They kept sending postcards.
And I was like, dude, it's 2007.
People are watching YouTube now. But it took them so
long to transition. I still
have musicians
that I'll meet and they'll be like, I'll be like, do you have some music?
Like, I have CDs. Not even kidding.
And I'm like, what? I don't have a CD player.
For real, though.
I got some cassettes.
I can't even put it in my PlayStation. It doesn't even play CDs.
8-tracks only.
The DVDs are for the old people. Oh, but people can get it online, yeah. I can't even put it in my PlayStation. It doesn't even play CDs. Eight tracks only. Well, that's why, you know, the DVDs are for the old people.
Oh, but people can get it online, too.
We'll talk about that at the end.
Yeah, yeah.
Sites in the description.
Justin says, can you adopt a Canadian?
I hate it here.
We can't.
It's actually really hard to hire Canadians.
It's crazy.
Move down.
You can do it.
You got to move here, you know.
Correct.
Well, if he's vaccinated, you know.
Yeah.
It's so hard.
All right. Let's grab another super chat.
Just scrolling through and see what we got going on.
I can't read this name because it's in what looks like simplified Cantonese.
But he said, Ian is incomprehensible.
LMAO.
Absolutely insane.
I love it.
Well, here's the thing, it well here's the thing here's the thing there
have been i think three conversations we've had where you started you started arguing not based
on what we're talking about but on a different definition of the word i'm glad you noticed
and well people aren't fans wait i don't know well we could get into that later like the easiest
example is the one is when i said they're so mean you said mean means average in the universe right
like like you're not sometimes if people are being really nice all the time you see people get angry
and then if some people are really angry all the time you see people trying to be nice but that's
mean but the purpose is why are you why are you trying to change you weren't you weren't meaningfully
engaging with the conversation you might be right about that yeah i think that's what they're saying
so it's also interesting what they say it sounds like i'm saying nonsense it's like if some two
people are talking spanish and you don't understand it it's going to sound what they're saying. Also, interesting what they say. It sounds like I'm saying nonsense. It's like if two people are talking Spanish and you don't understand it,
it's going to sound like they're talking in nonsense.
LOL, what are they even talking about?
They're stupid because they're not making any sense.
But just because you don't understand them.
Uriel says, Ian, check your last Twitter post.
I sent you a link to your Orbit commercial.
Oh, cool.
Ian's got a Super Bowl commercial?
Yeah, I looked this up.
Yeah, they end up running it on the Super Bowl.
It was weird.
It was early on in my career.
It was the third commercial I did.
I did a Dr. Pepper commercial.
People don't get that.
Because we've had people be like, who's this Ian guy?
Like, we know Freedom Tunes.
Like, yo, Ian's Super Bowl.
I definitely had a chance to go into that career path, the Hollywood career.
But YouTube was so enticing.
Just being able to speak my mind.
The freedom that comes with that is immeasurable monetarily.
Missy says, Tim, are you coming around to my line of thinking that vice news provoking supremacists in charlottesville
was theater no yeah i think why i think vice went down there to film to get clicks that's what vice
news does yeah vice used to be good it really really did. That's why I wanted to work
there. And when we went on the ground and we covered
these stories, there was no one telling us
what we had to do. It was just we just covered
the stories. It was a lot of fun. I really like Hannibal
Burris. He would go and do
different drugs in different countries where they would...
Hannibal Burris? Is that his last name? No, not Burris. That's a
comedian. Shout out, Hannibal.
What's Hannibal's name? Last name? I don't think his name is
Hannibal. You're right. Who are you talking name? I don't think his name is Hannibal.
You're right.
Who are you talking about?
The guy who, he's a Vice documentary.
He's the son of that filmmaker guy.
Oh, man.
Vice had this great guy.
We'll Google him.
Yeah, yeah.
Look, Google Vice drug guy.
Vice?
People are going to, they'll chat his name.
That's all it's going to be.
Hamilton.
Hamilton Morris, I think, is his last name.
Hamilton.
Yes.
All right, here's what we're going to do. I want to talk to you, Nick, about your film, Gosnell, I think, is his last name. Hamilton. Yes. All right, here's what we're going to do.
I want to talk to you, Nick, about your film, Gosnell, that story, and a lot more around Hollywood.
But this is such a gruesome story that it's going to be in the member segment.
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Nick, did you want to shout anything out?
I'm sorry.
I took my headset off for a minute.
Oh, you want to shout anything out?
Oh, no.
Just go to CapitalPunishmentTheMovie.com and check out the documentary.
Do you have social media, Twitter, anything like that?
Yeah.
YesNickSersey at Twitter.
I don't recommend it.
I have my button hovering over the follow.
Are you sure?
It's a knife fight.
My Twitter feed is a knife fight.
I'm very mean.
I'm very mean.
Okay.
I might unfollow you, but it's not personal.
It's more about mental health.
My mother keeps telling me, you need to shut that thing down.
You need to get off that Twitter.
Do you think Twitter has brought out the best in anyone?
No.
It's so horrible.
A good day on Twitter is like you were mean to someone else,
but people thought it was funny.
And then a bad day on Twitter is everyone's being mean to you.
It's just a horrible fact. It's true. It's like what the website is hold on it's true i've i ignore
responses so people are mean to me and i don't care and i i'm not mean to other people no i'm
i'll quote them maybe but i really love it you know it's like you know when i post nonsense
on twitter and people eat it up well yeah no you can also just post jokes too but i think
the vast majority of it is just people trying to dunk on each other.
I love it.
I hate it for a long time.
I think it's destroying civilization,
but I love how serious journalists take it.
And then I can post the stupidest thing
and they write a story.
Like, I wrote Impeach the Queen,
and I got a whole article written up about me
saying Tim Pool calls for impeaching Queen Elizabeth.
It's amazing.
I love it.
That's hysterical. No, I look at it like improv class. It's like, you know,
I'm just sort of trading barbs with people.
Workshopping jokes here.
Well, my name is
Seamus Coghlan. I'm a cartoonist.
I have a YouTube channel called Freedom
Tunes. We release a new cartoon every
Thursday. We released one today called
Fed Talks about the involvement of feds in trying to infiltrate right-wing movements and entrap people i think
you guys are going to enjoy it it's doing pretty well and thank you so much for stopping by and
watching the show and i hope you check out my youtube channel i'm ian crossland great to see
you guys nick thank you so much for coming man and this is the again the documentary's capital
punishment can i keep this going yeah yeah absolutely i'm really interested in this and i
really i think these people that are in prison,
these people in solitary confinement, this is like the most maybe under-talked about,
maybe next to the war in Yemen, the genocide in Yemen right now.
This is like very, very.
It's unbelievably awful, and, you know, there's a guy in there who testifies
about how he was treated when he was in there by the prison guards.
It is really, really sick, And it shouldn't be happening.
Yeah.
Capital punishment.
You guys, check it out.
And thank you guys very much for tuning in.
I have been remiss in my Freedom Tunes watching.
I need to catch up on this one and the one before it, I'm afraid.
I'm hurt.
I'm so sorry, Seamus.
Sorry, I get it.
Hey, we all get busy.
I've sinned, I know.
Anyway, you guys can follow me on Twitter and Mines.com at Sour Patch Lids.
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