Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #468 - Someone Tried ASSASSINATING Kentucky Democrat w/Daniel Turner & Olivia Rondeau

Episode Date: February 15, 2022

Tim, Ian, and Lydia join Daniel Turning of Powering The Future and fellow YouTuber and journalist Olivia Rondeau to discuss the assassination attempt on the mayoral candidate in Louisville, Trump's hy...perbolic statements on the Durham investigation findings - and the media's insane spin on it, Justin Trudeau's overreach in Canada as he attempts to push back on Freedom Convoy protests, and CNN's unhinged opinion piece about Joe Rogan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This huge story broke on Friday. The Durham report investigating the Clinton campaign, Russiagate, new filing, directly implicates the Clinton campaign in spying on not just candidate Trump, but also the office of the executive, the executive office of the president. This is some of the most damning information we've gotten yet, and now we have new information. It is being suggested that there could be potentially several indictments over the information released by the Durham investigation, but we'll see. And we'll get into all the details, of course. Donald Trump responded by saying something to the effect of, in a stronger time, you would get the death penalty for such actions.
Starting point is 00:00:40 I think Donald Trump's wrong because treason is, you can get the death penalty for treason, but this is usually, treason is aiding and abetting a foreign adversary in time of war. Sedition is subversion of government. So it's very different. I don't know if you get the death penalty for that, but perhaps. All I can say is, wow, that was a spicy escalation. And then as we're getting ready and doing our work of the day another story happened this morning a democratic candidate in louisville was shot at and his uh fortunately the bullet only grazed his clothing so we're grateful that nobody got hurt on this one this could be this could be a big nothing burger i mean the story itself is is crazy this is a democratic mayoral candidate it's not the biggest deal in the world in terms of federal
Starting point is 00:01:22 level politics but it's still you know things are getting so insanely hyper polarized in this country. There's fears that this could be overtly politically motivated or it could be a PR stunt or something. I really doubt it. But a lot of people are saying, let's wait for the evidence on this one. It could turn out to just be a crazy person doing something crazy. However, you know, typically when I see someone going after politicians, I think we should take it very, very seriously because,
Starting point is 00:01:50 I mean, it just shows, especially right now, how things are getting absolutely out of hand. Not only do we have those stories, apparently we have near martial law in Canada, invoking of war powers by Trudeau to shut down these trucker protests. I'm exhausted, both physically and mentally, with all of this crazy news. And get this, we've got even more stories about Joe Rogan because they're not letting up. I mean, the culture war is escalating to something absolutely insane. So we'll talk about other stuff. We've got a lot of other stories.
Starting point is 00:02:24 We've got AOC in the news. We've got CNN. And joining us to talk about all this is Daniel Turner. Thank you. Great to be here again. Yeah, you want to quickly introduce yourself? Yeah, Daniel Turner, Power of the Future. Daniel Turner PTF on Twitter. And it's awesome to be back with you also. Thanks for having me. Absolutely. Thanks for coming.
Starting point is 00:02:38 And we also have Olivia Rondeau. I'm so happy to be back. I think it's my third time on now. Third time on now. I'm just a conservatorian journalist and commentator. I'm on Twitter at RondoLivia. Right on. What's up, everybody? Ian Carlson over here. Happy to be here. Honk that like button. Yes. I am also here in the corner pushing buttons as I always do.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Very excited to have Olivia and Daniel. Love them both. It's going to be a good show. I love how I'm just like, the end is nigh. Everything's falling apart. Everyone's like, hey, thanks for having me. It is Valentine's Day. No mention of love. Love your neighbor.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Black pills only. Yep, yep. Can I just say it's sad that Lydia messaged me last minute. It was like, hey, do you want to come on Monday? Like literally I had no plans and it's Valentine's Day. Oh, it's not sad. It's okay. It's good to be open.
Starting point is 00:03:23 I'm not into the tradition aspect. Yeah. Are you going to like find the love on a different day? Really? You're not into tradition, Ian. I am so surprised at that. Isn't that weird? I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Ian's got weird traditions of his own. Yes, he does. Daniel is like, every day I come here, there's more crap. It's such a mess. Can you get the wide shot really quick? You guys in the audience, let me know. Give me a one if you think this is as messy as I think it is. It's pretty messy.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Look at this. I feel like it's organized chaos. Can you zoom in on that somehow? Organized chaos. Yeah, I can zoom in on it. There's an abacus now. The abacus. There's a lint roller.
Starting point is 00:03:53 This is an ancient calculator. Do you know how to use it? Yeah, it's really cool. It's very easy to use. Oh my gosh, it's a lot. You count like, you have it on its side and you'll be like, one, two, three, four, five. And when you get to five, then this comes down, and that means five. And then you'd be like six, seven.
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Starting point is 00:04:48 And subscribe to this channel. Share the show with your friends. Let's read this first story. We have this from the Daily Mail. Louisville Democratic candidate for mayor shot at an attempted assassination at his office, but escapes uninjured. Cops probe whether politician was targeted because he is Jewish. Now that's the gist of the story. They say that someone fight at the campaign office. This, uh, this officer, Craig, I'm sorry, this, uh, candidate
Starting point is 00:05:12 Craig Greenberg had his clothing grazed by the bullet. Fortunately, everybody is safe. And this may not be anything other than a crazy person because we don't know yet. However, I believe there was a member of the city council who said this was an assassination attempt. So apparently somebody has been taken into custody. The investigation is ongoing. There's concerns here because as things get more and more intense in the culture war and with conflict between Trump, with the Durham investigation, with the January 6th committee, people become less and less trusting. So some feel like maybe this is just a mayor of a city in the U.S., not even one of the biggest cities, but a big, big city for sure.
Starting point is 00:05:53 It's a big city. And it's just a publicity stunt or a false flag or some other whatever. But I don't know. I don't fall into those. I genuinely think that you've got a lot of people out there. A lot of people. Some of those people are crazy. And some of those people can be driven to extreme acts because they're unwell.
Starting point is 00:06:15 So I'll just say this. I hope this is it. I hope there's nothing more to this. But the reason I think this story was important to lead with was as we get more and more news about the political conflict escalation, Adam Kinzinger just came out last week and said targeted assassinations are coming if there's going to be a new civil war. And then he said to Wolf Blitzer, I think it was Blitzer on CNN, that we would be naive not to think a civil war was coming. Of course, it's a trope
Starting point is 00:06:41 at this point, Tim Pool mentioning it, because I've been talking about it for some time. But when I see a story like this after Kinzinger says targeted assassinations and then a Democrat candidate gets shot at, I'm kind of like, was he right? Yeah. Are we on our way? I mean, we should be able to all universally condemn this, right, and say this is – it's a terrible act and we're happy that no lives were lost. But I do think you're smart to say let's not jump into speculation too much because we don't know all the facts. But yeah, a terrible action.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Glad the person was caught, right? You said that they had caught the person. A suspect. A suspect was caught and that's important, right? It looks like the cops did their job so that's good. But it could be nothing. Let's hope it's nothing. It's someone matching a description and for all we know they're like it was some random fact that it's a mayor mayoral race just leads me to believe it could just be random and the fact that they're just speculating say it could be because he's jewish i don't know yeah i thought maybe it
Starting point is 00:07:38 could be mob related like he owed somebody money there's so many ifs see that seems like more of a reach i don't know a guy borrows money to try and win a win a campaign and then he's not paying up or he's you know here you go he gets he borrows money now that he's in in the race and he has a change of heart and he says i can't go through with this the people need me and they're like if you back out on us we're coming for you see that but i agree that sounds crazy like. You know what the scary thing is? A political assassination seems to me to be the most plausible outcome, that somebody is just like the Democrats are crazy and awful and something like that.
Starting point is 00:08:17 It's really a testament to humanity how we – because you're right. It's not like that's hard. It's like driving. Every day we drive these 2,000-pound things past each other at 100 miles an hour and just car after car. Well, 50 miles in both directions. So it's like car after car after car. And we just trust. We live in trust.
Starting point is 00:08:33 And we don't veer over and ram. But you could. That's the crazy thing is people could. It's easy to fail in reality and easy to go haywire. It's challenging. But we do it so well. We stay on the level so well. I don't believe any of the false flag stuff. A know a lot of people think well i'll say this first assassination attempts really really
Starting point is 00:08:51 help candidates it's kind of creepy and awful that it's the case but it it rallies people you get a victim narrative so i think for for that reason people would suspect a politician of trying to stage something like this to generate press but i just really don't think i mean it is it is like winning the lottery 10 times in a row yeah to get the circumstances where a politician is going to be like okay after you shoot me like nah this guy the bullet grazed his clothing i don't think this guy wanted it it's it's i don't i don't even like entertaining the you know the idea but there are people who absolutely are curious about whether they trust them or not. But I'll add one more thing.
Starting point is 00:09:28 That's kind of how crazy it is politically that people would assume a politician would actually stage something like that. Yeah, but let's not forget one of the most famous attempted assassinations of all time, which was the assassination attempt on Reagan, was because the guy was genuinely crazy and he wanted to impress Jodie Foster. Right. And it's like, well, Reagan was just the target because that's who jodie foster would be impressed that i don't know if she was um i don't think she was ever asked as a follow-up like hey did you did you get the guy's number she was probably she was maybe she was like hey cool give me a call obviously that's not what happened but not the kind of impression you want to make so i mean it could be something like, sadly, there are a lot of crazy people in the world.
Starting point is 00:10:10 I'm pretty sure Jodie Foster has been asked about that. It was the Hinckley thing, right? Yeah, and I think she was like 18 at the time also, which is even weird. No, no, no. She was... No, I think she was like, wasn't she like 12? She was even younger. Yeah, like imagine this poor kid.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Yeah, you want to pull that one off? Like you're like a... I knew she was very... My point was that she's young. Yeah. And it's like, gosh, how traumatizing for this poor young – She was born in 62.
Starting point is 00:10:27 When was he shot, 82? 81, I believe. So she was 19? Oh, okay. 18, 19, something like that. Okay, so you were right. Yeah, but still, she's a very young person. And so there are just crazy people in the world.
Starting point is 00:10:38 But I'm glad the mayor is – or the mayoral candidate is okay. She was 12 when she was in Taxi. That might have been her taxi driver. I guess he saw the movie or something. But, yeah, I mean... Do you think it has significance that this took place in Louisville? Because I know there was a lot of unrest there
Starting point is 00:10:55 in the summer of 2020 because of Breonna Taylor, right? Yeah. That was my first thought. I was like, Louisville, that's really interesting. But I don't know. I did kind of think about that because I was like,
Starting point is 00:11:03 what if this happened in a different city? Like, if this happened in chicago i wouldn't even think for the sake of definition what's the difference between attempted murder and attempted assassination like what's where does it become no longer considered murder how important it's considered this? How important are you? Yeah, exactly. Like a public official or something? It's kind of crazy that it's that way. Nobody assassinates a plumber. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:11:31 Exactly. A competing plumber company. Oh, maybe, yeah. Shout out to all the plumbers out there. But as soon as the plumber announces, like, actually, it's really weird, isn't it? If there was a guy,
Starting point is 00:11:39 he's a plumber, right? And he's like, look, man, I'm just here to fix the pipes. And then one day he goes outside and he goes, we got to change the pipes in these town. And I'm going to do everything we here to fix the pipes. And then one day he goes outside and he goes, we got to change the pipes in these town. And I'm going to do everything we can to change these pipes. And then someone shoots him.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Like, I guess what makes an assassination is if it was in direct opposition to your work in changing something about the public. Yeah, that's the first definition. I think it is. Yeah. And is it an assassination like the murder of someone because of their office? Yeah. Not just the murder because of their personhood, but because of their agency. Yeah, but didn't John Lennon get assassinated?
Starting point is 00:12:08 Yeah, but they think that was political too because he was so anti-war. Do we say assassination of John Lennon or do we say the murder? I don't know. That's a good point. Maybe the Beatles just defy all definitions and therefore – Yeah, John was like Gandhi. He had that kind of political power. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:23 He was very active in anti-Vietnam War stuff He was very influential And his wife was an amazing singer Still is That's the one person that should be pulling their music from Spotify Yeah, she should not be on Spotify She shouldn't be anywhere Neil Young's back on Spotify
Starting point is 00:12:40 He's not back on, but a bunch of his music is still on And will never come off Because he'd already signed the rights over uh for compilations and stuff to a bunch of the hits interesting i didn't realize that it's all one big joke it's it's it just feels like it's all fake but i guess the scary thing is politics is pop culture you know so i've been talking about this for a while we as you know as we're looking to expand and do more other kinds of content and books it really is like everything's political eminem took a knee at the super bowl and everyone's saying it's political and some people are like you don't even know why he took a knee like he may have just been bowing or something but just by getting on his knee and like and then
Starting point is 00:13:17 like what did he do put his hand on his face something everyone's like he took a knee for black lives matter or something and like it was sund. Maybe he was nailing down in prayer. You know, I mean, he's a religious person. I don't know what his reasons were. I just think it was funny. That was the one white dude. It's true. The one white guy nails no one else does.
Starting point is 00:13:37 That's why it was for you. But maybe it wasn't political. The thing is the fact that everybody assumed it is. You know, politics is pop culture. So I wonder if when you see a story like this about a Democratic mayor or a Democratic candidate, it only happened because this is what's in the forefront of everyone's minds. If they were talking about, you know, a movie or a band like John Lennon, like maybe just crazy people are seeing someone on the TV and they're like, he's beaming thoughts in my head. And so they go out and go after him. And if the crazy people don't hear about any of these people, they don't do it.
Starting point is 00:14:09 With politics being so paramount to everything now, more crazy people might see these people on TV and then target them. And it could be completely not political. I was thinking as a species, I think we've lost our childlike innocence now that we have the internet and we're able to examine ourselves so well. We're no longer this innocent humanity that we were 100 years ago. And we've lost it. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. But we've also seemed to have lost – a lot of loss has gone to our childlike curiosity, which we need as a species. We need to retain that.
Starting point is 00:14:38 What do you think people were like a couple hundred years ago? They just lived in this ignorant allowance of like let daddy lead the way and we'll support our guy and now everyone's like active well not everyone but people are like hyper aware of what's going on everyone everyone my age is an activist you know or activist you know yeah people are hyper aware bro back back in the day people like they lived and breathed their politics because there was very few people they did but they didn but they didn't see it like we get to see it. They weren't able to listen to the president talk. It wasn't – right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Isn't that crazy? Like 1700s, you'd be chilling on your farm and a mail carrier would come with a letter and the letter's like, the president said these things three months ago. And you're like, well, how about that? Yeah. Imagine getting a letter and it's like, Joe Biden announced he's taxing you. He said this three months ago. It's like he passed by Congress.
Starting point is 00:15:23 You owe us 10 bucks. And you're going to be like, wait, what? Nobody told me that. And then you'd be bound by it. Yeah, and I think expediency is what the Internet has changed, and that's a podcast in and of itself, right? But what has it done to society? The ability to know things in the immediate
Starting point is 00:15:41 and the impatience people have for not knowing something right now. I think that's what's changed society. When you measure heat, if heat transfer happens really, really, really fast, it gets hotter. And so if information is downloaded into your brain really, really, really fast, that might be creating some sort of friction. That's a good way to think about it. It's like if you're driving your car and you're slamming the gas, your car can overheat. You've got to let up the gas a little bit so it doesn't get too hot. If people are absorbing too much information in terms of politics and culture, people start to overheat and there's no cooling off period.
Starting point is 00:16:13 People need to get time to chill, but it's endless. And then people snap, which brings me to our next story. Yeah, now I know you already had some thoughts on this, Daniel, because this one gets spicy. But I wanted to say this real quick before we get into it. One of the reasons I wanted to leave with that story about the assassination attempt is because I'm worried about the violence escalating and the rhetoric escalating. And that was a real-world example of a potential escalation of political rhetoric because check out this story. The Guardian reports, Congressman echoes Trump's claim that Clinton aides deserved to die.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Jim Jordan's statement on Fox News is another example of violent rhetoric entering the Republican mainstream, analysts say. Okay, let me give you the quick version before we get into all the nitty gritty. The Durham investigation has made some very serious accusations
Starting point is 00:17:03 against the Clinton campaign that they were simply put spying on Donald Trump as a candidate and as the president. Very, very serious criminal allegations. Donald Trump stated in a stronger time people would be put to death for this. Jim Jordan said Donald Trump's statements were right on target. Now, the media is reporting that Trump has called for the death of these people and that a member of Congress has agreed they should die. And that is a dramatic escalation of rhetoric. And to be fair, I mean, even Trump's statement
Starting point is 00:17:36 was a little bold and probably not what we need to hear right now. But of course, the media is not going to sit back and say, Trump said people got the death penalty in the past for doing things like this. He didn't say they should get it. But of course, that's the media is not going to sit back and say, Trump said people got the death penalty in the past for doing things like this. He didn't say they should get it. But, of course, that's the narrative they're going to play towards. And now we're marching towards one side is going to see this and they're going to say Donald Trump wants to kill these people. They're going to be saying this. See, if the fascists get elected, they're going to start killing people. You see what Trump said.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Oh, you see what the Guardian is reporting. The Clinton aides deserve to die. And then you've got people on the right who are like the media is lying about it. And the Clintons were committing very serious crimes, seditious crimes, and they need to be held accountable. Now you have the Democrat establishment base saying Trump's people are trying to imprison his rivals. Meanwhile, the January 6th committee is doing the exact same thing. Here we go. Yeah. One of the problems that the previous president had frequently and it was his own making is the imprecision of language creates problems that take the focus away from where the attention should be. So there's this problem
Starting point is 00:18:36 right now with the Durham investigation and it's serious, but his imprecision of language would show us that that's not what we're attacking. So now everyone's talking about this and the problem with that is that you want people to focus on the Durham report, but you've lured them away because you did not choose your words
Starting point is 00:18:51 properly. By the way, this headline also is grammatically incorrect. My mom taught me such good English. I have to point that out because that's good English. Such good English. Well, she did teach me such good English. She taught me English well. Right. Yeah. Des me such good English. She taught me English well. Right. Deserve is past tense.
Starting point is 00:19:09 That makes it sound like they have already died and they deserved it. It should be the Clinton aides deserve. They are worthy. They are deserving. As you said, they are deserving of death. So it just bothers me that that's how they phrased it, but it's a little bit more titillating. It's a little bit sexier and I think it's intentional. Maybe it's bothers me that that's how they phrased it, but it's a little bit more titillating. It's a little bit sexier, and I think it's intentional.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Maybe it's intentional in that they want people to believe they did die. Yeah, only Jeffrey Epstein died. And it's his fault. I thought his word position would get better when he got banned off of Twitter. I was like, okay, now he doesn't have a character limit. He can take some time and write out an official statement on his email, on his website, but no. He's notorious for having read The Art of War, I believe. it was a big part of his move uh growing up in his business but this is an example of when your enemy is making a mistake you don't interrupt them yeah they were
Starting point is 00:19:53 about to go after hillary and trump opened his big mouth yep this was the first headline i saw about it literally this was the first headline i saw about it yesterday on twitter and it's and if i had not taken the due diligence to dig deeper, that would have been everything that I saw. And it's just insane. We haven't even walked through the allegations against Hillary yet because this story has taken the front page. And because the escalation is, you know, look, it is so difficult to explain to people the inner workings of all of these stories because they're so complicated when i when i'm talking to people and i say do you know who who durham is the durham investigation are you familiar they're like no what's that all right let's start from page one
Starting point is 00:20:34 and you got to walk them all the way through it but when you get a headline that's like donald trump says they should die that's all they see yeah and they don't know anything about why trump said it they can't understand and so i see these memes all the time from the Democrat base, these lefties on Twitter and everything, genuinely confused by what's going on because they don't know what's happening because CNN won't tell them. And that's all they're willing to listen to and watch because they're irresponsible individuals. So thus they end up seeing these stories and they're like, what's the – who's Durham? What is it even about? Why is Trump saying that? Trump bad oh man yeah trump trump thinks these people deserve to be killed and and they don't know any of the background story and again that's
Starting point is 00:21:13 the problem you make the story about yourself also which is a huge issue well let your enemies kill themselves uh if that's what they're doing but don't interrupt their mistake but he he does and and that's unfortunate. Let's read a little bit of this story because we'll get into the details here. They say anti-hate speech activists, oh my, have condemned the Republican U.S. Congressman Jim Jordan for his apparent endorsement of Donald Trump's declaration that members of Hillary Clinton's campaign staff should have been executed. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Jordan asserted on Fox & Friends that the former president was right on target when he accused Clinton's aides of spying on him and that another time in U.S. history, their crime would have been punishable by death. Trump didn't accuse them. Durham did. Trump just said, wow, that's a crazy accusation. It's crazy how the Guardian is framing it. But the positions of the Ohio right-winger and fierce Trump loyalist, who is resisting efforts from a congressional compitit to explain his own role in the deadly January 6th riot that Trump incited. Look at that. That Trump incited. Look what they do.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Oh, my God. Serves only to stoke further the country's volatile. You know what? Is there a, like, this paragraph is perfectly ironic. Yeah. They say, serves only to stoke further the country's volatile political divisions, which is literally what this sentence is doing. It's amazing. I love how they say Trump incited the violence when Ray Epps, he's this guy on the ground, January 5th and 6th, yelling at people to go into the Capitol, telling them to do it. And Adam Kinzinger is like, yeah, but, you know, he was just talking.
Starting point is 00:22:45 He didn't do anything. It's like, yo, if it's not incitement to directly tell people to do it, I don't know how you claim Donald Trump was inciting anything. Be strong. We're going to, you know, stand up for ourselves. All right, bye. And that was it. And then it's like, oh, no, now people are – Trump did this.
Starting point is 00:23:00 It's his fault. He also tweeted to not attack the Capitol Police on that day. He was tweeting against the violence. So I really don't understand this narrative. You know, as much as we see a lot of this conflict escalating, as much as I've said, you know, early on in other segments, when Trump has the Durham investigation going for the Clintons, when the Clintons are waging, you know, political warfare against him, and you've got two factions using the weight of government and law enforcement and the judiciary to go after each other, it looks like civil wars is on the
Starting point is 00:23:30 horizon because neither side will back down. These are powerful political elites that won't back down. That's true. The facts don't matter. The truth doesn't matter. All that matters is that people have feelings they act on, so you know ben shapiro says facts don't care about your feelings that's true in a certain sense but feelings also don't care about your facts if there are people who believe the clintons and believe the machine and the democrats they're going to act upon that and that will lead to very serious conflict that being said it's very obvious what they're doing and how they're lying those of us that have been paying attention whether you're conservative or liberal or whatever, we're watching the news. We know for a fact the people who are in alignment
Starting point is 00:24:08 with Hillary Clinton and Podesta and these other high-profile Democratic individuals are lying relentlessly. CNN, garbage line. Joe Rogan took horse dewormer. And people believe it. People believe this. Trump incited the riot or the insurrection. And oh, well, look, I got, whoa, whoa, whoa. The Guardian did say riot riot i'll give him that one i guess yeah yeah well the guardian is a rag i mean it has been for quite some some time i mean it's it's just pure propaganda like a lot of the media what was funny about the cnn stuff and the horse dewormer and all that is that then as time goes on not only do you find that they're a bunch of liars but they're also a bunch of pedophiles um and they're all a bunch of sexual degenerates, right?
Starting point is 00:24:46 I mean, like, it's... Within one week, just for people who are in other contexts, sorry to interrupt, but within one week, we had two different high-ranking producers implicated. I believe they were both arrested and charged, weren't they? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Woo! Yeah, and so these are the people who are sharing the truth with the American people. So, you know, it's frustrating that these... And so these are the people who are sharing the truth with the American people. So it's frustrating that if there is an escalation of tension or growing tension, the media has a role that they're playing with it. And they, of course, are stoking these fires because they have a business and their business is to get clicks and to get people to buy their publication. I mean, that's nothing new to the media. We've been dealing with this for 200 years. But that's what their role is in this incoming civil war.
Starting point is 00:25:33 And what the, or cold civil war that we're currently in, however you want to describe it, what we end up with is the media, these corporate interests, accusing us of doing exactly that. They're like, oh, they just, they're grifting and they just, you know, pander. The craziest thing is how, you know how we have such a disagreement in the comments and the super chats on this show and the nuance and the, Tim, you're wrong. Here's what really happened. And us reading and going, oh, wow, we made a mistake on that one. And then you watch CNN. They have no interaction like that.
Starting point is 00:25:57 CNN just gets stuff wrong and they don't care. Sanjay Gupta admits to Joe Rogan on his own show, yeah, we shouldn't have done this, then goes back on CNN. And Don Lemon goes, no, we were right. And Sanjay goes, well, you know, you were right. It's just unscrupulous. They don't care. It's remarkable that there are people who just keep believing it and falling for it, and they refuse to do any research to read outside of what's happening in their bubble, and they believe this insanity.
Starting point is 00:26:17 But I tell you this. It's not just these companies want to make money. That's a big component of it. It's political. Yeah. It is their ideology. I mean, the video that's been going viral for the last day or so since this report came out is the Leslie Stahl on 60 Minutes with Donald Trump where he talks about these things
Starting point is 00:26:34 and he says, you know, they were spying on me. They were wiretapping me and they were not. And she says, like, this is 60 Minutes. We're a serious news organization. Okay, so maybe the facts needed to come out, and they needed four years to come out. But will 60 Minutes and Leslie Stahl this Sunday apologize to Donald Trump? Or will they say, you know what? Four years later, the facts did come out, and it looks like, no, they'll just move on to another story. And they'll find some 16-year-old kids with asthma, and they'll blame it on the big oil industry and that will be the new 60 minute story and they will the way the media
Starting point is 00:27:08 gets out of this is they just pretend it didn't happen there's just they just well i was administering minds there's this weird power feeling of power when you censor something that you don't agree with and then you see that it affects it works and that you're basically you feel like god it's like a sense of control that's what what these people experience. I had to fight that feeling as a moderator. I had to learn it and then tame it and control it and notice it. And these people, that's what they're getting. They're like, yeah, man, I'm just
Starting point is 00:27:34 going to ignore Trump. I'm going to do, like you said, Leslie Saul's not going to, they're not going to do the right thing and correct themselves because they don't have to legally right now. They probably should. And then they're going to feel like God because they're like, wow, we control the narrative. Miko Brzezinski. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Remember that? Yeah. You know, the president thinks he can tell people what to think, but that's our job. Yeah. We said something to that effect, right? And then they had to issue it. Like, Snopes is like, she did not say that it was her job. I love that Snopes fact check.
Starting point is 00:28:02 It's Joe Biden giving out crack pipes. Mostly false. Mostly false. He's also giving syringes. That's what it was. It's amazing. her job to i love that that snopes fact check is it's joe biden giving out crack pipes mostly false mostly false he's also giving syringes that's what it was it's amazing but but people see the mostly false and it works for them yeah that's all they need to see they don't need to read it any further and it's like the funny thing about the whole crack pipe story is if you look at how they how they gaslight when you look up smoking kits, this is what they were funding, $30 million towards drug programs, which included these kits.
Starting point is 00:28:29 If you look them up, they have meth pipes and crack pipes. And then all of a sudden, Biden goes, Jen Psaki's like, no, we're not giving those pipes. And then all the fact checkers are like, no, they're not giving pipes.
Starting point is 00:28:40 But they're just gaslighting everybody. And it works. They fall for it every time. Well, it's the same as, there is no problem on the border. Ask Secretary Mayorkas and he'll say, no, the border is closed. There is no problem on the border. Next question. And you say, well, look at the video.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Ask the agents and they'll say, no. Next question. Ask Jorge Ventura. He's down at the border like every other week and he's recording video and going live. And it's real news. It's completely real real and it's crazy how they're not reporting on it i was just talking to lady downstairs before we went before we went live i was trying to brief myself on the durham probe before i got here and i was trying to watch a mixture of media i was watching mostly fox because they're the main people reporting on it because it's basically a
Starting point is 00:29:22 media blackout everywhere else but i also watched Maddow talking about it today. And in the headline, like in the little title card thing at the bottom, it said it was a Trumpian theory. Trumpian. Literally, it said Trumpian. That's insane. That's how biased they are.
Starting point is 00:29:37 I'm trying to, reading the news, there's viral memes about the front page of CNN. And it's like there's 18 stories about Trump and zero about Biden. And Donald Trump hasn't been president in over a year. And it's just, what? And no media gaslighting is going to be greater than the gaslighting we're just starting to experience
Starting point is 00:29:58 that will be the rest of this year, which will be the COVID gaslighting. Because we get to November and we get close to the election and mayors and governors are going to say, nine months ago, I took these mandates away because my policies were safe. And they're going to say, Ian, how dare you accuse me of using this for political purpose? It has been months since my administration and everyone's going to clap and say, yes,
Starting point is 00:30:18 you did take away those mandates. You fought to keep us safe. I fought to keep it. And they're just going to ignore the fact that bars closed and restaurants closed and mom lost her job and dad lost his job. The gaslighting we'll experience for COVID will be like no gaslighting we've ever seen before. But maybe some people will wake up from it finally. I hope so. Like the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:30:35 I love it. They have an indoor mask mandate in LA and at the Super Bowl at SoFi Stadium. They said before the Super Bowl, everybody would have to wear masks. And then there's this clip going around where it's like the broadcasters are like, oh, look here, we've got Leonardo DiCaprio and Ryan Reynolds and Charlize Theron. It's like just showing all the celebrities at a party and none of them are wearing masks. So at a certain point, if you've got, how many, what was it, like 70,000 people in that stadium and many of them were wearing masks but you know you got so many not wearing it in celebrities you still fall for these
Starting point is 00:31:09 narratives from the media you know maybe you just can't be helped yeah but then today in los angeles county some nine-year-old kid sat in their english class and took off the mask and they were like suspended is that you know no i'm sure it happened because because the los angeles schools the masks are still required i literally tweeted this today it's such a black pill moment for me to see all these celebrities and all these elites who are hounding people calling people like anti-science like grandma murderers for not wearing a mask and they're all just you know having fun at the super bowl but my 15 year old brother has to wear a mask or he'll get kicked out of school like it's just ridiculous let's talk about uh let's get let's get in deep on the uh dni dni ratcliffe
Starting point is 00:31:51 talking about the durham intelligence reports and what's going on we have this story from fox news former dni ratcliffe told durham intelligence supports multiple indictments in probe hillary clinton purportedly approved a plan to distract the public from her email scandal, sources told Fox News. Yo, Trump was right. Everything the Trump supporters were saying about why this is happening, not all of it, but a lot of it, turns out
Starting point is 00:32:16 to be true. Hillary Clinton was embroiled in this scandal where she destroyed public records. They say emails. No, no, let's slow down here a minute. On the merits, on the substance, Hillary Clinton had public records. They say emails. No, no, let's slow down here a minute. On the merits, on the substance, Hillary Clinton had public records. She destroyed them. Her staffers were smashing phones with hammers. This is not about her emails. It's about something very, very serious. And then the report comes out. She decided to distract from this news by accusing Trump of being a Russian spy, which took over the media
Starting point is 00:32:45 in this country for years. Here's a story from Fox News. Former director of national intelligence, John Ratcliffe, met with special counsel John Durham on more than one occasion and told him there was evidence in the intelligence to support the indictments of multiple people in his investigation into the origins of the Trump-Russia probe. Fox News first reported on Durham's latest filing, which alleged that lawyers from Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign in 2016 had paid to infiltrate servers belonging to Trump Tower and later the White House
Starting point is 00:33:14 in order to establish an inference and narrative to bring the federal government agencies linking Donald Trump to Russia. Let me just stress that point. Hillary Clinton's campaign paid for the infiltration, the breach of servers belonging to president of the United States to accuse him of being a Russian asset or spy or linked. Yo, okay. I don't see that as treason by the official definition, but how is that not seditious conspiracy?
Starting point is 00:33:49 It is. Completely. Yeah, and it's mind-boggling because Watergate was bad, right? We were talking about this before and Bernstein is famous for saying over
Starting point is 00:34:04 and over again, it's worse than Watergate, worse than Watergate, and I did Watergate and it's worse than Watergate. This really is worse than Watergate because Watergate was bad, right? It was a lot of bad actors, private individuals, but to use the apparatus of government, which has so many checkpoints that's supposed to stop this from happening. I mean, you just can't, and I've worked in the federal government when I was in the Bush administration,
Starting point is 00:34:28 you just can't get access to these servers, to these tools, to these listening devices, to these spying device, whatever it is. You have to go through so many checkpoints and to go through those checkpoints, people have to approve it and there's got to be a process. So it's not one or two or three or four or a dozen people implicated. It's literally hundreds of people who are like, wait a second, Ian, why do you need this special satellite? Why are you doing this? Why are you trying to hack into this server in Trump Tower? And you have to get your boss to sign off here. And Lydia needs to co-sign in triplicate. And lots of people are involved in this. And they all knew what they were doing was wrong. And so to use the power of government, again, for the crime of just not being aligned to the powers that be, right?
Starting point is 00:35:11 Donald Trump is, you're allowed to do this if they thought he was a cartel operative, right? You're allowed to spy on people's phones. Police do it to citizens all the time if there's implication that they're doing something illegal. But Trump's crime is they're doing something illegal. But Trump's crime is I wanted to win. There's that lawyer who was involved in Trump's first impeachment, the Ukrainegate scandal, who tweeted right when Trump got inaugurated, we are going to impeach him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:38 And then did. And it's just brazen and out in the open and obvious but that's why i've been saying i don't see any out from this other than some kind of civil war because they're saying it publicly what they're doing they published a time magazine article called the shadow campaign to save the election or whatever explaining everything they did and it's in your face. So my question is, when the Democrats and the uniparty establishment types set up the January 6th committee, and they're filing all these subpoenas against former Trump administration officials, members of the media, at minimum, to answer one of these subpoenas, it's $100,000, they say. Because you can't just be like, sure, what do you want?
Starting point is 00:36:24 No, you have to search all the labor labor hours all the legal responses and legal filings i don't know how the average person would even be able to deal with something like that then you have the derm investigation now uh former dni ratcliffe saying multiple uh indictments are possible based on this evidence and there's already been i think how many how many indictments have there been in durham Is there two or one? Sussman. Sussman and the other guy, right? Yeah, I think just two. But these are building up and potentially leading to more.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Do you think either side in this conflict is going to be like, let's just stop? No. So what happens when neither side stops? It escalates. Or they can start making concessions because if if you really didn't want to stop and you want to go into these public records that got destroyed uh and the copies of you'll see sydney blumenthal's interactions with hillary and like running guns into libya with osprey global solutions setting up the american like a puppet state in libya you know basically betraying our
Starting point is 00:37:20 president obama who didn't want hillary working withney at all. Like, if they want to go, if they really want to go all the way, but I don't think that it could ever happen. I think that they're going to play a limited war when it comes to this kind of thing, take pieces, accept defeat, and they're not going to really blow it open because if they really blow it open, then the liberal economic order is over. But why would they stop? Well, I think it would it would get stopped i don't know by what by who by the american secret military what i don't know i think if you really start to pry into the secret records that hillary was trying to destroy you realize she was trying to destroy him for a reason because they're they're covering up the american
Starting point is 00:37:59 war machine and a lot of the way that it subterfuges its way into countries but ian that is hillary clinton and everything they did against donald trump for years accusing him of being a russian spy it's now being uncovered that they're there they've been faking this whole thing to try and stop trump and it didn't work they did it to bernie too the dnc spied on bernie um i don't have the reports spied on him i don't i i want to be careful because i know that there was a lot of foul play with the bernie thank you sure okay do you have any you know i don't have the reports on him. I want to be careful because I know that there was a lot of foul play with the Bernie stuff for sure. I don't have it pulled up.
Starting point is 00:38:29 It's been like what seven years since this stuff was going on. So it's been a while but Bernie absolutely I think bent the knee to the Democratic establishment and just gave in. Yeah there's emails about Bernie talking about should we use his Jewish ancestry against him in the campaign and stuff. The WikiLeaks emails, right?
Starting point is 00:38:46 Yeah, WikiLeaks. I think this is Hillary's dump. Was WikiLeaks dumped it? It was the DCCC, right? The D-Triple-C. And again, as bad as that is, politics is a scummy business, and if that's private actors being scummy people, I understand it. But it was his own political
Starting point is 00:39:01 party doing it, too. Isn't that crazy? Yes. Awful, awful, terrible thing. But this is using the government to do it. And that's a lot different because the government is funded by the taxpayers and it's supposed to be under the authority of Congress that represents the will of the people. And that's why this is a whole new level of scary because it's not the DCCC. It's not political campaigns. And you've worked on political campaigns. They're vicious and nasty.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Heck, we were just talking about a potential candidate who maybe was attempted assassination because political campaigns are nasty. But to use the power of the federal government, which is supposed to be above all of that, is a whole level that we have yet to ever see in this country. And that's the undoing of the nation. Seditious conspiracy. Yes. It was a years-long effort of what we're all learning
Starting point is 00:39:46 about with the Durham investigation, with the tampering of evidence. Was it that one lawyer who got indicted, he like, he withheld evidence or something, right? Sussman, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:54 And well, his first FISA request to the FISA court, which was rejected, and then he got a second one and he did get his FISA. So he's going to say, look, I was listening
Starting point is 00:40:03 to the Trump White House legally. I got my Pfizer documents, but he forged all of the evidence to go to the Pfizer court. Then there was, it was, who was it? Papadopoulos, who was a CIA asset on that email and they removed it. You know what I'm
Starting point is 00:40:19 talking about? Yeah. I don't remember the specific details. Suffice it to say they were lying about almost everything to use the power of the courts to hurt trump's presidency and to stop him from being able to lead the way the american people wanted him to and this is based on this story so this is this is like just broke this this story just broke but i'm talking about a whole bunch of other stories the german investigation is more than just this one moment it was i mean heck it's three years in the making now at this point the german investigation right
Starting point is 00:40:49 it's been going on for a while and it's just starting to come to light a lot of i mean the muller probe you know uh investigating donald trump to the tune of millions of dollars inhibiting his ability to do his job as president because they said oh but if he fires comey it'll be obstruction of justice call me was basically protect protecting his job by investigating the president on completely bunk BS. It is the bureaucratic state. The people who are appointed to these positions, who stay in these positions longer than the people elected to run the offices, and they don't want to lose their jobs, and they found a way to stop trump from purging them and then when you and then your head starts to explode when you go to the jeffrey epstein jeslene maxwell case and you say
Starting point is 00:41:33 who was the the the government lawyer who said that she could keep all of her clients confidential oh it's comey's daughter yeah i have to that's where you become just crazy and you're like i'm gonna i'm gonna go bonkers like do they all are they all related everyone's dating each other married to each other they all know each other it's like in hollywood when you're out partying one night and then all of a sudden they're like hey come on you go to a party and like all the celebrities are there and you're like what the heck it's like it's in that house right there but you don't know another reality right over there across the street another like alternative universe that you're not part of that you experience just for one second and then it all disappears on you it's it's real yeah those
Starting point is 00:42:08 people probably are a lot of those people probably are deeply in in contact of course birds of a feather flock together so they all hang out they'll party together and they view it as normal so when donald trump comes in and he's not a part of that club they just say like let's shut him down and no one's going to cross anybody that they know. They don't care. This is why I say, you know, I was talking earlier about the Joe Rogan stuff and we'll get into that in a second. And I'm just like, I really don't care what these people think about him. And I think it was a mistake for him to apologize because all it does is prove that their tactic worked and it got a rise out of him. Like they trolled him effectively. And I'm just like, at this point, you're not going to convince any of these people
Starting point is 00:42:45 because they hate you and they don't want to like you and they don't want to be friends with you. They want to high five their buddy while making fun of you. There's no point at which the nerdy kid walks into the bully and says, look, I'm sorry, we got beef.
Starting point is 00:42:56 I don't want to get in your face. Let's be friends. And the bully just push you down and say, wow, that was funny. And that's where we're at because there's an in-group and an out-group. There are separate groups, whatever it is. And the democratic establishment and the media establishment, they all view themselves as the establishment and the in-group. But there's a
Starting point is 00:43:13 growing faction of anti-establishment individuals who don't align with them. That's what they fear. And I think they're losing. I think the decentralized internet movement, the more youthful, free and libertarian mindset is actually winning and expanding. And we're watching it with the cultural not have become president. No, there would never be an investigation. It would never be uncovered that Hillary Clinton did this. It would just be evil. Donald Trump colluded and he's in prison. But because they've lost so much of their power as they wane and crumble, they're being exposed. But they still it's like it's kind of sad.
Starting point is 00:44:01 You know, it's like looking off to the old castle crumbling, and there's like a withered old king scraggly, being like, I'm so in charge. And no one cares, and no one listens anymore. Yeah, that could be the only thing that could potentially save us from the coming civil war. Or, as you said, we're probably in some sort of a cold civil war, but one that actually does turn violent.
Starting point is 00:44:21 And what could possibly save us is the dismantling of the larger government state, that maybe you elect the right person who's not left, not right, maybe just anti-establishment, who does take what used to be good about both parties. You had Rand Paul and you had Ron Wyden both say the Patriot Act is bad, right? Like this is bad. We should not be listening to people's emails. We should not. This is bad for the country,
Starting point is 00:44:45 right? Whatever that part that used to unite some of the left and the right, maybe that person could find their way into the seat of power and dismantle a lot of these institutions and these agencies that just have, I mean, there are thousands of people right now listening to us and their little government NSA is not very far from here, right? I mean, a couple of 70 miles and they're there and they're listening. This is their job. And the question is, are you keeping our country safe? I don't know if you are.
Starting point is 00:45:11 In their mind, they are. And it goes back to the great Will Smith movie, which was 20 years ahead of its time, Enemy of the State. I mean, if you haven't seen it, it's just awesome. Oh, man. It's been a long time since I saw that. And it's so far ahead of its time. It's so, so.
Starting point is 00:45:24 I wonder if Will Smith... I probably wouldn't want to enter into politics if you ever asked him, but it is highly libertarian in its principles. Wow. And it's... Yeah, and that's kind of where we are. That's what needs to save the country
Starting point is 00:45:36 is the dismantling of this apparatus. Yeah, it might just crumble. Term limits for administrative state, for staff. Yeah. Yeah, that's a start. Maybe you can only work in federal government for a certain amount of years before you force retirement. I agree with that. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Trying to remove the people is different than trying to change the system because if you remove the people, more will come. We've got to fix the system. I'm literally getting flashbacks right now like the democratic establishment so reminds me of like an abusive ex-boyfriend or something because listen listen listen they project i don't know if you guys have ever been in like a situation where the other person you're dating is always accusing you of cheating always accusing you of being disloyal disloyal but they're the ones that's cheating the whole time and i could see the parallel from the russiagate they're talking about Trump colluding with Russia, Russia, Russia.
Starting point is 00:46:26 Now it's flipped back out, flipped back on them. It just, it just so reminds me of being in an abusive relationship. I guess for all we know, it was the KGB with working with Hillary
Starting point is 00:46:36 to push the Russia. Ian, there's no KGB anymore. What are you talking about? Of course, there's no KGB anymore. They all disappeared after the Soviet Union fell. I don't know what they're called now. They all just quit. FSB, I think. Okay. Is are you talking about? Of course. There's no KGB anymore. They all disappeared after the 7-Eleven fell. I don't know what they're called now.
Starting point is 00:46:46 They all just quit. FSB, I think. Is that what it is? I don't really believe that they were working with Hillary Clinton, but that would be funny if you saw the full circle. It would be more likely than a Russiagate. Yeah. Honestly, at this point, if the Democrats accuse someone of doing something else, you
Starting point is 00:46:58 need to check and make sure that they're not doing that because the odds are good that that is exactly what they're doing. And this is Sololinsky's Rules for Radicals, right? Like this is something that they do not play around with. They take it very seriously. And it looks like that's exactly what they're doing here. It is the FSB, which stands for the Federal Security Service. Oh, that sounds nice.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Maybe it's a different word or something. It's Russian, so yeah. Right. Maybe it's Federal Security Bureau, they call it or whatever. But FSB is the but uh you know in reality i mean putin was kgb yeah they they these people don't didn't cease to exist they just reformed under different names yeah and now they're all focused on the ukraine okay what's up with that i don't think that's that wasn't one of the stories we picked up tonight but is this all
Starting point is 00:47:39 propaganda what's going on yeah i think i think it's U.S. is – we've talked about it a bit every so often. When Obama was in, you had this growing escalation and conflict in Ukraine. Donald Trump gets elected. Conflict stops. Where'd it go? Where'd it go? So when they try and come out and say, oh, this is Vladimir Putin doing all of this, I think it's possible that Putin is being effectively rope-a-doped or roped into it
Starting point is 00:48:07 because the US wants Ukraine and NATO. They want to build their pipeline. They want to control natural gas into Europe. Russia controls a large portion of the natural gas going into Europe, which causes high prices. The US has been trying to offset this. They need Ukraine on their side because the pipes, Gazprom runs through Ukraine. And so under Obama, you have this protest movement, which is in support of westernization of Ukraine. Russia doesn't want that because Russia has their military base in Crimea. So they invade Crimea and that whole thing happens. When Trump gets in, the conflict stopped. When Trump is out and Biden's in, the conflict reignites. So you tell me who's starting the fight. I think it's the Democratic establishment.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Trump had no interest in going to war. Russia, they took Crimea, but then after Donald Trump gets in, it starts to die down. My friends in Ukraine are like, oh, we don't really call it a civil war. It's just separatists that are fighting, but they've been losing. Now that Biden's back in all of a sudden, all the troops are here and it's getting worse and it's getting crazier. Propaganda. I think the U.S. I shouldn't say the U.S. I feel bad for what's become of our country under the under the thumb of these crackpot despots like the Democratic establishment, the Republican establishment, the neocons and neolibs. These are deeply, deeply evil people.
Starting point is 00:49:26 They think they have a right to destroy, to invade, because the ends justify the means. And they'll tell you to your face and look you in the eyes and say, all of the great luxuries you've experienced in your life are because we sacrificed for you, because we went to war and we stole and we plundered and we enslaved. And my response to these people is like, what makes you think i'm okay with any of that and they're like well you got all these computers you got all this great technology all from the petrodollar i'm like bro i'd have no problem living with some chickens and building myself a little cabin and living a simpler life but they don't want that the powerful establishment they want to be the dictators. They want to control. They want the empire.
Starting point is 00:50:06 And they think the American people live a slightly higher standard of living. Every time we do this, we're going to keep doing it. Those aren't my morals. I don't agree with that. They seem to. And so they do what they do. Under Donald Trump, his principles were, no, if the American people work hard and work for each other, we'll be successful and we'll have things for ourselves. And America first, protect our borders. And and i'm like that makes sense to me the neocon neoliberal
Starting point is 00:50:28 establishment is like no if we just put pressure on other countries and put them under our boot we don't need to do any work at all we'll just get free money yeah i also think since the time of of of since the dawn of man but i mean just, just looking at the ancient Romans and Caesar, I think every leader, this may be a guy statement, no offense to the ladies in the room, but I think every male leader has felt like I will truly be a leader when I take my people to war. I feel like the wartime president is like an aspiration.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Sadly, and I think it's a terrible thing. And I wouldn't be surprised if Obama had a little bit of that. Bush certainly had that, Bush Cheney. And think biden has that a little bit as well like when i go to war and i lead my army then i am the manhood of of the president the fullness of men now that i noticed a name you didn't say i don't think trump had that he did not i don't think he cared it's he got painted as the overly like macho thinking that he had something to prove blah blah blah he did not start a new war i love it when he came out on that that one famous moment where he was asked about a weapons deal with saudi arabia and he's just like it's great we're gonna make a lot of money it's gonna be really good for the economy
Starting point is 00:51:38 it's billions and billions of dollars and these anti-war leftists were just like he just admitted what the u.s does trump didn't care about going to war. He didn't want our troops. He even said, why do we still have troops in Germany? Why do we have troops in these other countries? Why do we? I mean, quite frankly, we have hundreds of thousands of troops all over the world.
Starting point is 00:51:58 30,000 in Germany, 20,000 in Italy, 40,000 in South Korea. How many in Japan? Yeah, in Okinawa and we why why why why is it why are we still defending japan like their their economy is is not as good as ours but it's pretty darn good their their quality of life and sophistication and technology is as good as ours why are we why why what are we doing i'll tell you something interesting I saw. A meme. It was a post on 4chan.
Starting point is 00:52:31 When Philadelphia firebombed that neighborhood. Do you guys remember that? Can you look that up? The move? Yeah. See, I don't even know the full details on it. But they said, ask the average Chinese person about Tiananmen Square and they won't be able to tell you what it is. Show them this picture and ask them what it is. Show an American this picture. Ask them what it is and they won't be able to tell you what it is. Show them this picture and ask them what it is. Show an American this picture ask them what it is and they won't be able to tell you either.
Starting point is 00:52:48 This is the 1985 move bombing. Refers to the May 13, 1985 incident in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States when the Philadelphia Police Force Department Police Department bombed a residential home occupied by the militant move organization. What? It's not the same thing as Tiananmen Square by any means. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:53:03 A peaceful protest of college students and militants. The Philadelphia Fire Department let the subsequent fire burn out of control following a standoff. So they basically burned these people alive. Right. And there's Waco. We have our bad moments. Oh, sure. But the reason I bring this up is not to derail, but
Starting point is 00:53:19 most Americans probably couldn't tell you. They probably don't know how many military bases around the world we have. They don't know they're living at the heart of the empire. Yeah, 113 at least or 100 some. I don't know the actual number, but it's a lot of the submarines we don't know about. Nobody knows about. And that's why it's funny if you ever listened or follow on social media, now the Olympics, and people are like, how come everyone seems to speak English? That's why.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Yes, our cartoons and our movies and Hollywood and all that, but why do all seems to speak English? That's why. Yes, our cartoons and our movies and Hollywood and all that, but why do all these people speak English? It's not because of they like our TV shows. It's because the American military might. But why did everyone speak Latin or back then actually ancient Greek? Because they ruled the world. And no matter where you went in the empire,
Starting point is 00:54:00 you spoke the common language because they were in charge. Why does everyone speak English? And who's trying to supplant that? It's not Germany and it's not South Africa and it's not Chile. It's China. And they want everyone to start speaking Mandarin. That is their goal. But Trump was just like, why are we doing any of this?
Starting point is 00:54:19 Yeah. Build factories in America. And the establishment was like, shut him up. See, what people need to understand is Americans produce relatively little to the amount of wealth we have because we control the petrodollar. You want to buy oil, you want to use oil. It's our dollar that you got to use to do it. And well, the United States makes dollars. So that means loans go out to Americans on demand. We then have those dollars. We can buy more things. But for other countries, they have to buy dollars first.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Other countries have to produce large quantities to be able to have a high enough GDP to trade for dollars to get more access. We in America, we live luxury off of relatively little compared to many other countries. And someone is trying to supplant that. And the neocons will tell you we need to have all of these bases, especially
Starting point is 00:55:04 in, and you mentioned Japan and the Pacific, because we have to keep the shipping routes open. And Trump would say, why don't we just move the factories back to America? Then we don't have to keep
Starting point is 00:55:14 the trade routes open. Why do we need to have the Navy make sure we can get our vessels from China without them being taken over by pirates? How about we just make everything here
Starting point is 00:55:22 and then I don't care what happens on the high seas. Wrong thing. Stop. Wrong thing. Stop. Wrong thing. Exactly. Exactly. Paradigm shifts are hard for people.
Starting point is 00:55:29 And that's where the left and the right, the paradigm shift of whatever Trump was, were like, no, that's not how we do things here. I love this comment someone sent me when I tweeted about the celebrities at the Super Bowl not wearing masks. They said, things are looking pretty good in the Capitol, but it's a little rough out here in the districts.
Starting point is 00:55:46 And I'm just like, yep, that would be Hunger Games. Yes, that's right. In the Hunger Games film, I love it when they go to the party and the rich people are oblivious to how awful life is for the average person and they're drinking Ipecac to vomit and keep eating. And I thought about this and I said, those celebrities at the Super Bowl are the victors in the Hunger Games. In the Hunger Games, the poor people from the districts, once they win,
Starting point is 00:56:10 they get to go to the Capitol and be rich and go on tour and laugh and gloat. That's what these celebrities are. They're not members of the political establishment elite. They're not part of that powerful industry club. They're the people who are lifted up and put out there as the face to keep everyone in deep slumber and, you know, so long as they say the right things. Yep. But as Joe Rogan is experiencing, if you have said anything that bucks the system, then
Starting point is 00:56:34 they need to take you down. We were driving home from the cabin yesterday, went to this cabin up in Pennsylvania, and I was saying, life is so good. I was talking, thinking they're saying it. And then I thought for me right now and then i just thought about all these people that it's not like i was just like life in general is amazing for me because i was born in the united states with some money these poor people man and then i started to get depressed and that was like shaking me out of my my mode where i need
Starting point is 00:57:00 to be to help people bro the last thing you'll ever want to do is read about Henry Kissinger. Read about him and Africa and all that stuff and you will probably cry yourself to sleep. You hear about what this, what the, I don't want to say the United States. It's the global power structure. But you know about the international monetary fund, the SWIFT system,
Starting point is 00:57:19 how they control people. The things they do, man, you know, they think they're smarter they think they're better than you and they're deeply deeply amoral people who view humans as cattle let me pull up this story and i'll show you exactly what we're talking about from u.s news justin trudeau seizes emergency powers to curb protests they report prime Minister Trudeau invoked emergency authorities Monday to end demonstrations that have paralyzed Canada's capital and beyond since late last month. But he assured Canadians that he would not call in the military. Quote, this is about keeping
Starting point is 00:57:55 Canadians safe, protecting people's jobs and restoring confidence in our institutions, blah, blah, blah. We're not suspending fundamental rights or overriding the charter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The move comes even as traffic began to creep back to normal Monday at one of the continent's busiest border crossings. The Emergencies Act has rarely been used and would give the federal government extra powers to restore order by ending the demonstrations. That is to say, peaceful protesters who are demanding they be heard by their government will be arrested, will be shut down. And that's it because the government said so. No redress of grievances. Just force by the authorities.
Starting point is 00:58:35 And people are calling it martial law. If you're not familiar, this is the Great Honkening. Truckers are protesting. They're saying we don't want these vaccine mandates. Lift them. Trudeau, shut up. Do as you're told, you pathetic poor. And this is what they do.
Starting point is 00:58:51 This is – if you go to DC and you go to the National Archives and there's the Constitution, there's the Declaration of Independence. Fascinating. It's really cool to see in real person. A little bit off to the side, not centrally prominently located, is a copy of the Magna Carta. 12, 15, seven years ago, it should have had a much bigger celebration than it did. I thought Obama dropped the ball. I thought the world dropped the ball. But for the, and I'm going to be nerd for a second, for the first time in the history of mankind, power was ceded to this thing called the law, whereas up till now, power was ceded to this thing called the law whereas up till now power was ceded to
Starting point is 00:59:26 other powers so so ian is the king um you know but but if tim kills the king now the power is ceded to tim because and the the the nobility of england said you can't just say you're in charge because you're in charge there has to be something greater than you and it is the law and one of the parts of the magna carta is the petition of of grievances and habeas corpus, right? And to say, you have to be able to bring evidence against me. You can't just say, I have declared that this is unjust and because I am all power. And we've lived this way for 807 years. And to get little Trudeau to say this is wrong because I have declared it thusly is abolishing nine centuries of what makes civilization civilization. I mean, it really is an affront to humanity, as we have known it almost the last millennia,
Starting point is 01:00:17 because it destroys the rule of law. Donald Trump did not invoke the Insurrection Act. When they were riding across the country from small towns to big cities, burning down buildings, around 30 people dead. Donald Trump said, I can't do it. You know, he wanted to do it. Tom Cotton said, send in the troops. And Trump would not do it. Trudeau, seizing emergency powers, promising not to bring in the military but seizing political power.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Why aren't they calling him a fascist? Why wouldn't Trudeau's cabinet or his advisors tell him as a first act, why don't you find the head trucker and just say, head trucker Steve, why don't you just come to my office and let's talk? That's too reasonable. Right? That's too reasonable. Right? That's too reasonable. And you would think that Canada of all places would want to give the truckers what they want. People in America don't realize how less densely populated it is.
Starting point is 01:01:16 They need truckers way more than we do. They have cities few and far between. I really don't understand the logic here. No. The logic is, Trudeau probably views himself as a better man. And so when the unclean poors are demanding a seat at the table,
Starting point is 01:01:36 he's probably going, oh, at my table. It's like the Lord Farquaad in Shrek. Get that thing out of here. That's what it is. He's not going to sit down with lowly truckers. Heavens. Because it would be so easy for him to end this.
Starting point is 01:01:53 They're already talking about ending the vaccine mandates. They've already talked about saving face. Instead, he's like, what he wants is he wants people to know it's his power. And he will wield it against you regardless of your rights. He wants you scared. This is the desperation of the state, mainly in Canada, but we've seen it here in the U.S. in some forms. They're scared that if the people realize they have the power because government is for, by, and of the people, well, and the people might actually take command and try and vote for things the people want. But the establishment, the uniparty,
Starting point is 01:02:28 the powerful elites, the banking interests, the corporate interests that work hand in hand across country lines, they can't have that. I don't know if Her Majesty's a fan of your show. I hope she is. But she does have the authority to dismiss her prime ministers who are in her realm.
Starting point is 01:02:43 And I kind of wish she would step up and just say, Trudeau, this is... That would be incredible. Has she ever done that? The last time was... It hasn't been in a while. It was William IV. So like 18-something.
Starting point is 01:02:58 But yes, he did dismiss a prime minister. But that was UK? UK. But she can... The other prime ministers as well. She can Canada, Australia, New Zealand, like not the Commonwealth, but the – what do they call it? The crown, I guess? Imagine being the queen of England and having abdicated responsibility for what's happening in the Commonwealth and done nothing.
Starting point is 01:03:21 Unless, of course, she supports it. I think she supports it. Or maybe, for all we know, she's the one who called Trudeau and says, do as you're told and invoke the act and shut it down. Maybe she did. Yeah. I think Biden was involved too. When Trudeau disappeared, I started hearing whisperings that he's been meeting with other world leaders and they're- He did meet with Biden. He did. And Biden promised to intervene and help them. Yeah, exactly. And that's crazy. Now he's emboldened. And so what they're going to do, according to some, I don't know who this was.
Starting point is 01:03:46 I listened to some prime, some minister of Canada. Canada's deputy prime minister said that they are broadening Canada's terrorist financing rules so that they can cover crowdfunding platforms and cryptocurrencies. Look at that. Check this out. Check this out. That's why we got to get rid of the dollar. Make everything digital and we can control it. From TimCast.com, TD Bank freezes personal bank accounts that received $1.1 million in support for Canadian truckers.
Starting point is 01:04:09 The bank said it could not determine if the money's donors were entitled to a refund. Wow. This is bad news. He says he's not calling in the troops, but in a way, economic siege is worse. Like, you could either stage troops around the perimeter of someone's house or you can just make sure the food no longer gets in. Yeah. I mean, this is just insanity. And that's the scary thing about our digital information age, which you guys are experiencing all the time.
Starting point is 01:04:35 We can just decide you can't have a bank account. You can't have a credit card. You can't have an Uber account. I mean, there are people right now who can't have Uber accounts. Heck, Michelle Malkin was banned from Airbnb. Her family. Her family. You can't have an account on our platform.
Starting point is 01:04:49 I feel like if we don't do something real drastic or something right now, these people, these truckers are going to get thrown in the gulag like these people on the 6th. Yes. Yes, absolutely they will. The Canadian version. They're already calling it an insurrection. They're saying it's like another January 6th moment just like Joe Rogan's. They're saying it's like another January 6th moment, just like Joe Rogan's. They're saying it's
Starting point is 01:05:08 a nationwide insurrection. But look, what the truckers are doing is exactly what they should be doing. I'll push back again. You say something drastic? No, no, no. Nothing drastic. Nothing drastic. Something simple. More truckers. More people.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Peaceful. You see see what we're seeing with them freezing banks, with invoking military powers. I, you know why I love it so much. It's proving that the state, the authorities, the elites don't know how to handle peaceful protest because when you have a violent protest or a riot, people get angry. Black lives matter lost a ton of support when those riots happened. Regular people are like, we don't want conflict. So when you get peaceful protesters in trucks blocking things, oh, sure. A lot of people got mad at the truckers in Ottawa and they're like, you know, I want to drive. But to the average person in Canada, they're probably
Starting point is 01:06:01 like, oh, it's a peaceful protest. What do you mean? Black Lives Matter did the same thing, blocking the roads. It's, you know, I'm it's a peaceful protest. What do you mean? Black Lives Matter did the same thing, blocking the roads. It's, you know, I'm not that bothered by it. When the state comes in and starts cracking skulls, people start asking questions. During Occupy Wall Street, I was there on like day three when it started. It was very, very tiny. I remember standing in the rain on like a Thursday and there was like 12 people in the park, almost nobody. And we were under a big tarp and this cop walks in and he's like a Thursday. And there was like 12 people in the park. Almost nobody. And we were under a big tarp.
Starting point is 01:06:27 And this cop walks in. And he's got a raincoat on. And he just looks at us. And he's like, man, I respect what you guys are doing. And that was it. Because there was nobody there. It was like 12 people. And we're standing around like, so this is it, huh?
Starting point is 01:06:38 That weekend, when a few thousand people showed up to march, Officer Anthony Bologna walked up to a group of women standing on the sidewalk and pepper sprayed them in the face for no reason the video at the time was said to be the fastest viral video in in the history of youtube it got like 1.2 million views in like 10 hours all of a sudden occupy protests popped up all over the country all of a sudden people descended upon new york and there was this massive occupation now in the park. Why? Because when regular people saw three women saying to the cops, like, what are you doing? Why are you doing this? And the cop, for no reason, just blasts them in the face. Regular people got mad. When people see non-violent
Starting point is 01:07:20 civil disobedience, peaceful protesters saying, respect me. They're like, that's right. You should respect the working class. And for Trudeau to come out and crush them would ignite a massive wave that could go international. They can't do it. So they're freezing assets. They're freaking out. They're trying to navigate this. So I will stress it again.
Starting point is 01:07:37 Non-violent civil disobedience works, and it works so well. Trudeau has seized emergency powers rarely if ever invoked because they're panicking you know what's amazing is that for 170 years you've heard the cry workers of the world unite since marx said it right and you literally have the workers of canada uniting and and the people who wore marx and engels tshirts in college, they're now all in these positions to be like, crush them. This is a literal workers' protest, and the elite who love socialism are like, this cannot stand. I love the propaganda. There was a meme on Reddit.
Starting point is 01:08:17 It was like front page, and it said, thank you to the 90% of truckers who are doing your jobs and delivering our goods. And I'm like, I got to be honest. I'm willing to bet a lot of the truckers who are still working still support the other truckers oh yeah i'm sure they do i don't think when you thank them they're probably like shut up i'm working because i need to feed my family but i respect what these guys are doing that shows a disconnect they don't care about the working class they don't assume that the truckers that are still trucking just literally needed to obey to feed their family. They just assume that they agree with them because they care about vaccinations. That's it.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be curious to see how much more this escalates and this use of power to shut down bank accounts. And it's going to get worse. It's going to get a lot worse. And Trudeau is too stupid and too fearful to control the situation. The simple thing is, they said it's a nationwide insurrection.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Okay, they're trying to make it sound like January 6th, but on January 6th, you had violence, and they were able to use those videos, put them all over the place, and you get people freaking out about it. Regular people who don't know better see those videos and are like, I don't want anything to do with that. But peaceful protests, call it an insurrection all you want. It's not going to work. They're going to keep panicking. But this brings me to our next story, one of the most shocking and devastating follow-ups to the January 6th riots. Now, this one is, as many of you know, an insurrection took place at the Capitol. People were trying to insurrect against this government in support of Donald Trump.
Starting point is 01:09:49 But since then, we've had another moment that was also as bad. CNN reports Joe Rogan's use of the N-word is another January 6th moment. That's right. Joe Rogan, over 10 years, doing a show in which he said a word in context of referencing other people and comedy specials is as bad as the storming of the Capitol. I still don't know what N-word they're talking about. As the resident N-word, I will say that neither are that bad. Lydia's crying. i gotta say neither are that bad but i have to say that on the scale of things the the rogan n-word thing is like way down here
Starting point is 01:10:30 i'll tell you what this is just very simply put someone at cnn was like hey look we looked at the metrics joe rogan's getting a lot of hits and so is january 6th can we put those together and so they did and it makes literally no sense it would be like if someone said whoopi goldberg's comments on the view are the next Bernie
Starting point is 01:10:56 Madoff moment and then just writing while she didn't try and steal money from powerful individuals the things she said shows how power in this country and you're like wait wait, wait, hold on a minute. You're just taking two things and saying them at the same time. In no way are they in any way related, any way
Starting point is 01:11:12 comparable, but you're hoping it gets traffic. Oh, I just found out that they changed the title. They did change the title. What's the new title? The new title, I believe this is it, Why Shrugging Off Joe Rogan's Use of the N-Word is So Dangerous.
Starting point is 01:11:27 It's not even a sentence. It's a sentence fragment. So they posted the original story. They got massive amounts of heat about what an idiotic statement. And then within 24 hours... Did they omit January 6th from the article or that part is still in there?
Starting point is 01:11:39 It's still in there. It's the same article. Is it the same guy, the same analysis by John Blake? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's the same article. If you take the original, it's got a different photo, and it says January 6th moment. They say, what Rogan and those that defend him have done since video clips of him using the N-word surface on social media is arguably just as dangerous as what a mob did when they stormed the U.S. Capitol on January 6th last year. The same paragraph is right here.
Starting point is 01:12:03 Yo, I'm sorry. This is one of the most psychotic things this is the ramblings of an incoherent madman behind a 7-eleven at 2 a.m and he's sputtering and spinning on himself it's the kind of thing you hear when you're at a bar until 3 a.m and you're in new york city and you walk outside and there's some crazy guy walking down the street in a dirty green coat with like a striped muddy muddy, ripped shirt and a crazy beard and white, poofy hair. And he's going, I'm so broken.
Starting point is 01:12:30 It's like 10 to 8, 6. And you're like, whoa, calm down there, old man. This is getting a little out of control. It feels like a very vivid picture you just painted. I'm not going to lie. That was so specific. I read articles. And they use this language
Starting point is 01:12:45 like stopped him from using the N-word and using the N-word. No one died trying to stop him It makes me feel like this guy's playing with G.I. Joe's
Starting point is 01:12:53 and the drama is in the little G.I. Joe action that he's doing. That's the drama. It's not real life. Stop him. Stop him.
Starting point is 01:13:00 That's exactly what it's like. But then I got to accept that it's on CNN and people are reading this and thinking it's like but then i gotta accept that it's on cnn and people are reading this and thinking it's real or normal uh come on if this isn't if this doesn't wake somebody up i i don't i think they're beyond help they kind of like like just just just subtly change that title as there's no right but but look look you can take this here's my tip to all of you at home.
Starting point is 01:13:26 Google search the story. Why shrugging off Joe Rogan's use of the N-word is so dangerous. Copy the URL up top. Go to archive.is. Yes. And you can then paste that in and look at the first version of the article, which shows you the original archived. You can also take a look at we have here at the top of the screen archive.fo slash capital t lowercase e capital z lowercase y capital x that is the direct link to this story and just show your nay say your friends show your parents and your family members who don't believe you when you say the media is lying to them and just ask them to reconcile this and explain to you
Starting point is 01:14:05 what it means. And if they still still believe and trust CNN and defend them in any way, you can just hug them and say, you know, I'm so, yeah, I'm so sorry. So the third paragraph is actually throwing me for the biggest loop saying the concept
Starting point is 01:14:21 of white people not saying the N-word has held America together since World War II. I hate to break it to you guys. People still say it. They're always going to say it. There's no law against saying it. And World War II seems so arbitrary. Like Jim Crow still existed during World War II.
Starting point is 01:14:39 What are they even saying? What are they talking about? Why did they pick that? It's held America together. It's like if you were in Finland and they were like, well, you know, what keeps America together? Well, when you ask, when I think about it, what keeps America together is that white people don't say the N-word. They were storming the beaches of Normandy to keep Joe Rogan from saying the N-word. I did a control F search on this article and the phrase N word appears 30 times in this article.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Talk about propaganda. What is this? Look, look, look. I kid you not. Somebody just said I want to get the algorithm boost. I'm not kidding. I would be willing to bet a large amount of money that this guy who wrote this, John Blake, was sitting in his room and he's like bouncing his pen and he's like, I want to get a million hits. What can I do?
Starting point is 01:15:28 What can I do? He's like, Google search. He goes to Google Trends. He looks at the top 10 phrases and he sees Joe Rogan, January 6th. And he goes, yeah, all right. I'll write that one down. And that's what he did. I'd be willing to bet that's what he did.
Starting point is 01:15:41 I saw the screenshot of this headline earlier without the link. So I didn't know it was from CNN. I literally assumed it was either The Onion or Babylon Bee, and I laughed at it. I thought it was satire. This is me live finding out that it's on CNN. What is up with white and black being capitalized all of a sudden? So black is now normally capitalized.
Starting point is 01:15:59 But now look at white. Is white not capitalized? Weird, right? By this guy it is. At first I think it was only black that was capitalized. Because the references to the politics and ideology. So they're not even talking about color anymore? No.
Starting point is 01:16:11 Or shade or whatever? Here's what I want to point out too. Because we did mention this a little bit. It says publicly used. All right. Let's play a game. We're going to do a spelling bee real quick. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:16:20 All right. Daniel. Don't ask me to say anything I don't want to say. Ask me to spell a word. I can choose the word? No, no, no. Yes, God. All right, Daniel. Don't ask me to say anything I don't want to say. No, no. Ask me to spell the word. I can choose the word? No, no, no. Yes, yes. Tim, spell the word banana.
Starting point is 01:16:30 Banana. Can you use banana in a sentence? I would like to eat a banana. All right. It's a noun. You are referencing it in the sentence. Now, I'm going to ask you to spell the word, and I want you to ask me to use the word in definition. All right?
Starting point is 01:16:43 Okay. All right. Your word is oikonomia oikonomia uh could you use it in a sentence please tim pool said the word oikonomia that in no way used the word it referenced the word in i'll tell you this let's let try it again. Your word is there. There. Could you use it in a sentence? Tim Pool said the word there. Now spell it.
Starting point is 01:17:16 Yes. T-H-E-Y apostrophe R-E. Oh, no. It's the other one. The reason you use it, the reason why using a word is different from saying a word is that when you're trying to spell it and figure out what the word is, making a sentence where it's like Tim Pool said the word there does not tell you which there it is. So Joe Rogan never used the word to use it in a context of which is to insult or deride someone. He said the word in reference to other people. They purposefully do this to prey on weak minds and the ignorant, to smear their political opponents, to make money, to generate outrage.
Starting point is 01:17:54 And in no way is it true. It was never true. And I got to say, I think Joe needs to sue CNN. I really, really do. Because when they said Joe's... Nick Sandman, take a page out of his book. Well, hold on. This is a factual question.
Starting point is 01:18:11 And I think it needs to be expressed. So long as everyone keeps accepting that saying a word equals using it, go before a judge and then ask the judge. And I want the judge to answer. Okay? It's that simple. So Joe could file the suit. He doesn't have to do this. I get it, but I wish someone would. And he can say to the judge, your answer here will set a standard, a cultural precedent is saying a word the same as using the word. And if the judge says, think cnn's description of what you did is correct thank you you've you've you've now defined it and everyone knows the courts believe that saying a
Starting point is 01:18:51 word means using the word but i'd be willing to bet based on my spelling bee argument a judge would probably be like yeah there's a difference between saying a word and using it yeah until someone sues for defamation you know gets, gets that clarification. Now I do love, we had this conversation before about the, you know, Joe Rogan and other issues like this. And the left then claims Tim pool, you know, does a show where he demands the right to use the N word and things like
Starting point is 01:19:15 that. That's the game they play. Yeah. No, I think nobody should use the N word. Never. No. Well,
Starting point is 01:19:19 one of the things also going back to what we were talking about earlier on the podcast is the media as a whole and how I think they're responsible for a lot of the frustration and animosity and anger that's brewing in the country. And you were saying how they'll never be held accountable for what they have put out or they'll never make mistakes, apologize. Changing the headline is a precedent that has only come about because of the internet. Because before, if they wrote it in Time Magazine, like the famous Time Magazine, Madam President with Hillary Clinton, that they published too quickly, right? It lives in perpetuity.
Starting point is 01:19:49 But the New York Times has been found often going back to articles five months old, five years old, and subtly making changes. Now, if you have the print version, you know it, or this website that has the archived version. But they don't have to stand by their reporting because even in real time, if the tide turns against it, they can just change the headline.
Starting point is 01:20:11 And that's not reporting now. Now you're doing opinion journalism. If you really believe his use of the N-word was like January 6th, then make that headline and, damn it, stand by it and argue your case. But to say, like, oh, that was stupid. Let me rephrase it. This practice of changing the headline is more dangerous than Joe Rogan saying the N word.
Starting point is 01:20:29 Well said. Absolutely more dangerous. Absolutely. Well said. So here's my pitch. The CNN article where they accused Joe Rogan of using the N word and comparing it to January 6th is another January 6th moment. Agreed.
Starting point is 01:20:46 Oh, yeah. I like that take. Yeah, that's tight. Now, they may not have died doing it, but it is very dangerous to our democracy. The Young Turks tomorrow. Tim Poole's podcast saying that Joe Rogan's use of the N-word was not a January 6th moment is a January 6th moment.
Starting point is 01:21:04 All right. Let me play again. And it's game with you guys i'm going to read you this article from cnn jank uger's use of the n-word is another january 6th moment the tv show host jank uger did not join a mob that forced lawmakers to flee for their lives he never carried a confederate flag inside the u.s. Capitol rotunda. No one died trying to stop him from using the N-word. But what Anna Kasparian, another host on the show, and those that defend her have done since video clips of her using the N-word
Starting point is 01:21:34 surface on social media is arguably just as dangerous as what a mob did when they stormed the U.S. Capitol. Hassan Piker breached a civic norm that has been held together, held America together since world war ii it's an unspoken agreement that we would never return to the kind of country we used to be that agreement revolved around the simple rule a white person would never be able to publicly use the n-word again and not pay a price hassan has said it and anna kasparian and jen kuger have both said it in the exact same context as jo. The use of the word descriptively referencing someone's body of work, statements made by another person.
Starting point is 01:22:11 And the funny thing is when people brought up the Young Turks, Anna said, oh, it was all taken out of context. No, I'm like, Anna's right. And it should not be held against her. I think the Young Turks should not be criticized for criticizing other people. Papa John was criticizing Colonel Sanders. and they destroyed his life over this. It's selective. The point is CNN writes the article about Joe Rogan, even though in the exact same context they could have written about the Young Turks. People are defending them.
Starting point is 01:22:38 Oh, but they're on the right side of the political hierarchy. So the media is on their side. Yeah, and that's the other form of media bias, which is more prevalent and more pernicious, is the media bias by omission. So they just won't write that piece on the Young Turks. Just like today, the Today Show will just not talk about the Durham case. They'll just ignore it, pretend it didn't happen, and they'll talk us out about something else. They didn't write anything about any of this with Joe until Robert Malone malone was on the show basically peter mccall and robert malone right i mean the reason why people didn't freak out about these episodes where he used the n-word at the time is because people watched the full episode and they got the context
Starting point is 01:23:14 this might as touch or patriot takes compilation is making people freak out who don't watch the show who have never seen the show who don't understand the context that he was using it in and it's insane to your point they omit and ignore multiple several members of the media that have done way worse than this i mean it's jimmy kimmel jimmy fallon howard stern they've all done blackface like literal blated blackface and i'm not saying i'm sitting here calling for them to be canceled or for them to write me a personal apology. I'm just saying they're ignoring people based on which side of the aisle they're on. Justin Trudeau wore a black face on more times than he can remember. Black face, brown face, every kind of face. He said he couldn't remember.
Starting point is 01:23:54 He doesn't know how many times he's done it. It looked like he was in a play. He was performing in brown face, I'm pretty sure. He had that turban on or something. And Northam. Ralph Northam. Well, he didn't even – I don't think he admitted if he was the Klan member or the blackface. He wasn't in –
Starting point is 01:24:09 I think the blackface is a little bit better. I think he implied that that was him, but he never admitted what he was. But we're not sure. Were you the guy in the hood or the guy that's like, I'm the governor. I shouldn't be – yeah. Good lord. That was funny. Were you the Klan member or were you just buddies with the Klan member?
Starting point is 01:24:28 Well, no, but it's like that question, like, when did you stop beating your wife? Yes. The implication is you did. So it's like you got a photo of Ralph Northam. He's either the guy in blackface or the Klan hood, and neither is going to be good for him. We could do that skit where you're like, when did you stop beating your wife? And he's like, I didn't. You didn't stop?
Starting point is 01:24:43 And then they take it as you didn't stop. That is actually good. I did. What are you talking about? Wow. And then the governor did not stop beating wife. That's how the media plays it. They know they do it.
Starting point is 01:24:53 Let me tell you a story. There's this guy who would write for the Boston Globe. And this was back in, I think it was like 2018. Do you guys remember the based stick man? Yes. So at the battle, do you know about this based stick man? Yes. So at the battle, do you know about this based stick man? Nope.
Starting point is 01:25:07 So the Battle of Berkeley, this is when they were doing the free speech rallies at the Berkeley Park in California. And Antifa showed up and was fighting. They beat up a bunch of Trump supporters. So the Trump supporters came back and this guy showed up wearing a helmet, goggles, and he had, I think he had a shield, right?
Starting point is 01:25:22 Like a shield and a stick. Yeah. And then when Antifa attacked, he cracked the stick over an Antifa person's head, shattering it. And the video went viral and everyone called him the based stick man. And this writer, this journalist I've known for a long time called him a white nationalist. And so I was like, well, that's weird. He was in a mixed race marriage or something like that he had a mixed race kid and I'm like I don't sound like a white nationalist it sounds
Starting point is 01:25:48 like kind of the opposite but he was a nationalist and so I reached out to this journalist I knew him and I said hey why did you why did you say this guy was a white nationalist and he goes because he is and I was like he's not he's a nationalist but he's he's got a mixed race family and then he goes is he white and I went yeah and he goes is he a nationalist I. And then he goes, is he white? And I went, yeah. And he goes, is he a nationalist? I said, yes. And he goes, he's a white nationalist. And I was like, are you kidding me? You know what that phrase means.
Starting point is 01:26:14 He was trying to imply that it was a factually true statement because he meant he was a white skinned nationalist person and not a person who believes in a country for white people, what white nationalist actually means. And that's the dirty game they play. Why? If you were to sue him, he would win because he would say, your honor, he is a nationalist and he is white. And it's not my fault people interpreted it the wrong way. I was referring to him being a white man at this park and being a nationalist. That's what it meant. And the judge can then say, I don't believe you. And then he can appeal and be like, you don't get to say what my intentions were. The phrase is factually true.
Starting point is 01:26:47 Now a judge might be like, get out of here. We know what that means. That's reckless. How dare you? But with the Times v. Sullivan, he could argue this guy is a prominent public figure who's got a social media following. And what I said about him was true
Starting point is 01:27:01 and it was not intentional to have it inferred. And then they win. Like the Sarah Palin thing got tossed out by the judge because of the insane standard that we have today for defamation. That you have to prove they were knowingly lying or acting recklessly. And recklessly means they were not upholding their own standards in their presentation of information. So if CNN has no standards, you can never sue them for defamation. No, for real.
Starting point is 01:27:28 And they clearly don't have standards. I have standards for CNN. Does that mean anything? No. It should mean something. If CNN doesn't fact check, they can say whatever they want and say, Your Honor,
Starting point is 01:27:39 this is our normal process. We believed it was true. And the judge can be, you can argue, but they didn't do any fact checking. And they'll say, Your Honor, we don't do fact-checking. We hear rumors. We publish them.
Starting point is 01:27:48 That's what we do. And the judge might be like, well, that's reckless. Or he might be like, you're entitled to your opinion and to publish what you think. It feels like kids are fighting. And I'm like, okay, they're fighting about this word and this language. When I'm like, we got asteroids bombarding the planet. The power could go out at any minute. The land could flood.
Starting point is 01:28:05 We have real problems. And this is just, but it's like watching kids fight. And then I'm reminded the kids are in control of the military. Like everyone's listening to the kids and the kids get to decide which direction the nukes point. Yep. They can't pick something worse to compare it to either. It's like January 6th, January 6th. That's the worst thing ever.
Starting point is 01:28:26 That's what we're worried about. That's the worst thing ever is January 6th. There's so much bad crap happening. Like the fire bombing in Philadelphia. That was bad. Yeah. What was that? The move bombing.
Starting point is 01:28:38 Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's the bombing of the Tulsa bombing. Like, yo, if you want to talk about bad things happening in American history, our history is rife with really awful things. Yeah. And Tim, didn't they do a survey of like the average voter and everyone's like, January 6th? What the – what is that? I am not familiar with that at all. No, I think they did – there was a bunch of like panels and polls that found people knew what it was but didn't care.
Starting point is 01:29:01 Yeah. They were like, I don't understand how this impacts my life. Right. And you raise such a good point, Ian, in that, and we do have real problems. If you ever wanted to get truly depressed when you sit down and think of some of the major problems facing
Starting point is 01:29:13 the country, the world, there are some really big, heavy structural problems but we're fighting about if Joe Rogan and we're playing these little tiny games and you may have to wonder, is it an intentional distraction? No, it's because Joe Rogan makes you think about the real problems going on in the world and that's why they attack him. People, I think, don't know the solution.
Starting point is 01:29:36 So they are panicking and now they're just focusing on what they're able to understand, which is this base stuff, this basic crap like racism and stuff. And I think that's what Justin Trudeau is doing. And when you panic in that sense and you have power, you exert it the wrong way. I think Justin Trudeau is in panic mode and he's like the little hall monitor, right? I think there's a good bipartisan like sitcom that can be put together if you just play the jokes right. Like I'm imagining, you know, we're talking about whether people care about this you've got like nancy pelosi and she's in like a um what are those what are those things called where they bring in a bunch of people and ask them about their products focus group she's
Starting point is 01:30:14 like looking at a focus group and there's like a bunch of people and she's like now now you know we would like you to vote for us and it does her pitch and she goes now now, January 6th, I'm sure you're all very worried about this. And the guy goes, I need insulin. And she's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, but January 6th. And it's like,
Starting point is 01:30:31 EpiPens cost $1,000. Like, there are things the left and the right are both angry about. And they're just like, yeah, but January 6th. And then someone's kid's like, I'm hungry.
Starting point is 01:30:40 That's there with the mom. And then she goes, shut up! Shut up, January 6th. January 6th. It's actually like that family guy joke where Lois is like, 9-11 mom and then she goes shut up shut up january 6th january 6th it's actually like that family guy joke where lois is like 9 11 and then everyone claps and then you know they're like but what about health care and she goes 9 11 oh sorry clapping yeah it's funny how seth mcfarland wrote that joke but now seth mcfarland is on the side of the despotic insane people yeah you either you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain, right?
Starting point is 01:31:07 Yep. Except for, what's his name from the Rolling Stones? What's his name? Mick Jagger. Oh, that guy. Yeah, he's no hero to me. Yes, yes. I just re-watched Dark Knight again.
Starting point is 01:31:18 We watched a part of it halfway through. I love that movie. And it was a reference to Caesar. So the conversation they're having is Harvey Dent harvey dent and bruce wayne they're at dinner with rachel and uh harvey's or bruce wayne's like you know he brought one with him and they're talking about whether or not the batman is right for going out and committing acts of justice on his own and bruce wayne you know playing dumb he's like who appointed you know, playing dumb, he's like, who appointed, you know, the Batman? And then Harvey Dent says, we did by doing nothing. At times of emergency, the Romans would appoint someone with emergency powers to protect the Republic.
Starting point is 01:31:52 And then the Rachel character says, the last person they gave powers to was Caesar, and he didn't give up his powers. And then he says, well, then you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. And that's what that line fully references. Yeah. Because people say it all the time, but it's true. I love that movie. I'm a Christian girl. All of these celebrities who are speaking out for free speech and anti-war
Starting point is 01:32:15 who have retained all of the gifts and powers and don't want to let it go, now have turned on the people at a moment's notice. Bernie Sanders is the best example. He went from fighting from the working class to, if you want to be a millionaire, write a best-selling book. It's like, oh, thanks, Bernie.
Starting point is 01:32:31 And have your campaign buy all the copies of it and keep the money. Talk about dirty. That was a huge letdown. Bernie was seen as a regular dude. He was a political career politician, but he seemed like somebody who wasn't interested in playing that game. But boy, as soon as they gave him a taste.
Starting point is 01:32:49 And it's funny because he didn't even need the full bottle of syrup. They just gave him a little drop of maple on that pancake. And he went nuts and said, I will do anything you say. Talk about pathetic. As much as I hate the term fighter. You don't want to fight. You got to fight for your rights. America really does seem to require a fighter in
Starting point is 01:33:05 office. It is the commander-in-chief of the military, so your basic job is you're the lead fighter of the fighting group. And Bernie wasn't a fighter. He just gave up whenever he was challenged on big issues. Do you think they threatened him, though? I do. No, I think so. I don't.
Starting point is 01:33:21 Let's talk about it, because I don't know. He just seemed so genuine. And I'm not saying this as somebody who was going to ever vote for him or ever supported him. Just if I was on the left and I was a progressive socialist, I would look at him and be like, yeah, he's a genuine guy. And then he goes and adores his Hillary. He just takes his weapon and just lays down like a sad dog. And it just made me wonder, like, did he want to do that? Was he threatened to do that?
Starting point is 01:33:43 I don't think he was threatened. It was after he found out they were spying on his campaign. And he still gave up to her. It's very, very simple. You need only watch The Fellowship of the Ring. And it's the scene in which Bilbo Baggins sees Frodo buttoning up his shirt. And the ring's there. And he says, let me hold it one last time.
Starting point is 01:34:00 And he goes, Adam, that's what Bernie Sanders was. This fumbling, bumbling old nice man who happened upon the ring and then as soon as they gave him a taste of the power, his face darkens and he's like,
Starting point is 01:34:12 give it to me! And now Bernie's got multiple homes and he's a millionaire and all of a sudden his politics change. Threatening him? They didn't need to.
Starting point is 01:34:21 They said, Bernie, your book's gonna sell. You're gonna be rich. You're gonna finally have everything you never had. don't have to be jealous anymore and he went thank you master that's it let's read super chats bernie was a letdown talk about talk about a betrayal if you haven't already smash that like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends go to timcast.com we're gonna have that members only show up around 11 or so p.m
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Starting point is 01:35:25 Let's read some super chats. We got one super chat. I can't see your name because YouTube blocks it. Sorry. But they say, truck convoy set to invade Ukraine. There you go. You're hitting all those algorithm keywords. On January 6th next year. No, no, no. Racist
Starting point is 01:35:42 trucker convoy set to invade Ukraine, carrying police accused of brutality on January 6th. George Floyd. You'd have to say, you'd have to add a whole bunch of other words. George Floyd. And then just add George Floyd at the end. Can we just throw in something about climate change also? Just to appease me.
Starting point is 01:36:02 Like, is this the real cause of climate change? Yes. Just a little Greta moment. How dare you? Just throw that in there. Okay, let's grab some. Just throw George Floyd in there. It just ends with George Floyd.
Starting point is 01:36:15 That was problematic. I'm sorry. Raymond, the Turk Longwell says, my bro, new to IRL, at first said he loved the long-haired guy, Ian. Now asked me, what's up with Ian last week? I had to LOL. I said, Ian is Ian. Last week was like a surfing ride for me, up and down.
Starting point is 01:36:33 You felt that too. That was cool. So for Raymond's brother, you need to understand that Ian is like a wild card who rolls ones or twenties. Yes. Ones being critical failures and twenties being critical successes. One of the things I've noticed energy-wise is the more 20s I roll, the more leniency I have to say whatever I want. And so the more chances I have to make ones.
Starting point is 01:36:53 That's true. So I've got to hit the 20s. That's a good point. Like right now, I'm talking over Lydia, which was a big mistake. No, I appreciate it. Thanks, Lydia. Can I say something real quick? I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:37:00 I got a DM with a tweet talking about the Louisville thing from earlier. It looks like there may be a theory. There is a tweet from one of the officers in the Breonna Taylor case, and he says that he's heard that the Louisville mayoral candidate assassination attempt was carried out by a well-known BLM activist. So I go to the tweet. It's by Sergeant John Mattingly on Twitter. I'm hearing Quintez Brown is in custody as a potential shooter.
Starting point is 01:37:25 He's friends with... What's the name? John Mattingly? Yes. How do you spell it? M-A-T-T-I-N-G-L-Y. You never know Don Mattingly? Baseball fans?
Starting point is 01:37:32 I love him. He's friends with Tim Finley Jr. and then a bunch of other tag people and many others. This is the same BLM protester that went missing and the LMPD was accused of killing him. He wasn't dead, but apparently once others dead. Oh, this. When did he tweet this?
Starting point is 01:37:48 Um, 4.09 PM today. 4.09 PM. There's 24 likes on it, but. Here it is, Tim, if you want to. Yeah, I'm trying to get it up so we can show it. The problem is Twitter blocks you unless you're logged in. So annoying. Unless someone has like the link specifically.
Starting point is 01:38:03 I can't. I got a link. Let me send it to somebody. I can send it to Lydia right now. Yeah, I can't. I got a link. Want me to send it to somebody? I can send it to Lydia right now. Yeah, I can't pull it up on the computer. Interesting. Twitter started doing something recently where if you're not logged in, you can't view someone's Twitter page. Shout out to Flattery O'Connor.
Starting point is 01:38:15 Okay, here we go. Is this one it? 4.9 p.m.? John Mattingly, Sergeant. So I'm not familiar with who this guy is. He's a retired police officer, Christian conservative. This may not be true. So we definitely need familiar with who this guy is. He's a retired police officer, Christian conservative. This may not be true. So we definitely need more confirmation on this.
Starting point is 01:38:29 I would say take this a grain of salt. I think we definitely need more information on this one. But he's saying that he's hearing Candace Brown is in custody with a potential shooter. He's friends with Tim Finley Jr. and many others. It's the same BLM protester that went missing. And LMPD was accused of killing him. I think this is fake. I don't believe it.
Starting point is 01:38:48 I don't believe it. So what's the name of the guy they have in custody? That's a wild story. That's a wild story from an account I've never heard of. It's not someone who's actively on duty. Do you think it's fake or do you just don't know? If I was going to make a personal assessment based on my experience covering news, I would say this is likely not true.
Starting point is 01:39:09 That being said, we're hearing about this now. Someone's just sending it. We don't know. We've got to look into it. Well, that's a very scientific method of you. Let's test it until we can reproduce it. The first thing I would say is this person on Twitter is a retired officer, not actively on duty, and hearing a rumor is far from worth reporting. The one thing that made me actually want to read the DM was that the person – I don't know this to be true because I've never heard of this person – but the person who sent me the tweet was saying that this was an officer that worked on the Breonna Taylor case in some capacity. So until we have better confirmation,
Starting point is 01:39:47 but I think people can take it with a grain of salt, start digging online and seeing if you can find anything else. For the time being, I'd say my personal assessment is the first thing I would do when I see something like that is I'd start, you have to do a ton of research before we can get anything close to a confirmation on that. And I think you've got to be really careful because if people start immediately jumping into accusing black lives
Starting point is 01:40:06 matter of being involved in this then you fall on your face when it's proven wrong this is what they call a lead in the industry may lead to a dead end that's right yeah and then if you come out right now and say that cop said this look at what this cop said and then a day later they'll be like that was fake news you'll be accused of being fake, of being a liar, of being a propagandist, and you will lose credibility. That's why I stay off these things. That's why I didn't fall for the Covington kids thing. I had people sending me the Covington kids stuff, and I was like, what is it? And they're like, what are the kids doing?
Starting point is 01:40:36 I'm like, what's he doing? They're like, well, he's looking at that guy. Look what he's doing. And I was like, bro, unless you can tell me how he got there, why it happened. I'm not going anywhere near that. And then I started looking into it and sure enough, I see the video of the Native American dude walking up to the kid. And then I'm like, y'all are crazy. And then I put out a video and I was like, it was, you know, I gotta be honest.
Starting point is 01:40:57 Conservatives were criticizing those kids. Liberals, conservatives, and everyone in between. And for a while I was like, what is going on? Like everyone is wrong on this. I don't care. I'm not going to say, like, I'm not going to profane outrage over this. I saw an article that said the Native American guy, Nathan, I think his name was, was a Vietnam veteran.
Starting point is 01:41:14 But then it turned out he was like a refrigerator repairman in like Nebraska. Yeah, during Vietnam. So he was in the Army. And he had stated on streams he was a Vietnam vet. He's a Vietnam era veteran. Yes. Oh, okay, yeah. Keyword era.
Starting point is 01:41:26 Most of some stolen dollar there, baby. All right, let's read some more. Nathaniel Meek says, Canada has declared martial law, banned the uses of cryptocurrency, and demanded insurance companies cancel policies of protesters. You may be covering the wrong story to lead with. The issue was the escalation of violence.
Starting point is 01:41:43 And it was... We talked about it. We do. We were like, which, what's the lead story? And think someone trying to kill somebody when politics are getting this hot. I don't know. It was like, and not to mention too, like there's only so many letters you're allowed, the only characters you're allowed to put in a title on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:41:59 All right. DTQC says the law Trudeau Jr. used uh trudeau castro jr what uh never mind it's not the one that was used by his father it's not the one his father used but a less controversial version the army won't be called but given the militarization of the police this means nothing oh that's a good point and the way that they have cyber control too that's another form of military that didn't really exist when probably when that law was written dig a uh dig a boom says alex jones mentioned democrats getting attacked as an excuse for more restrictions on the u.s like six months ago feds ca behind it well i don't know if uh alex jones is speculating on these things but uh i think we can put it simply if politicians get
Starting point is 01:42:42 attacked you will see hard restrictions fast. Yes. So this stuff's all bad, all bad. Whoa, what is this? What is it? Ivik Skam says, a big shout out to Mok from Chicks on the Right who had a stroke during their live podcast this morning. So scary. Sorry to hear it, man.
Starting point is 01:43:00 I hope everyone's all right. Stay healthy, Mok. Let's see. Some of these are spicy. Wow. Rain says, I hope this isn't premature. Uh-oh. But 15 minutes in, and Ian is rolling straight 20s every time so far, hoping this sticks all night.
Starting point is 01:43:18 Mostly did, I think, right? Yeah, it was pretty good. I think I did one that was really bad. I'm going to look at it later. Which one? It was like about 40% of the way through the show. That's how I think of it in terms of what I recall. You're like, did I just say something stupid?
Starting point is 01:43:30 Yeah, I said something that faltered. It wasn't a critical success. It was not a critical success. It was because this weekend was so relaxing and enjoyable. Too relaxing. Yeah, it revitalizes you. It gets you going. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:43:42 I'm wiped out, by the way. You guys went snowboarding. To the casino. You guys went snowboarding. You went snowboarding to the casino. You guys just kept going all day. Yeah, but the casino was just like sitting there doing nothing. I was looking in your eyes before you guys went like, know my fatigue, Tim. You've said that before,
Starting point is 01:43:54 but the casino is not a quiet place to relax and rejuvenate. It's not noisy and loud, and there's smoke, and there's lights, and there's bings. And so you needed time to do nothing. Like really nothing and quiet. And to say, well, I was just at a casino. I didn't do much physically. You're just sitting in a chair for eight hours.
Starting point is 01:44:14 Just like sitting there sipping on water. Stimulus. Stimulus. Noises. People. Smoke. Were you playing a game? Of course. So you're concentrating. I won a lot of money. Well, you're concentrating. That's not relaxing. You're tired because you need to relax. But to what i normally do that's that's relaxing maybe but everyone everyone is relaxing to different people i mean when i'm you know it's it's oh sorry go ahead when i'm competing i compete in
Starting point is 01:44:38 wrestling and jujitsu when i'm on the mat that is like literally i'm focused i'm relaxed i'm cool i'm calm i feel like it's an outlet for me i feel relaxed i'll be sore my body will be sore afterwards but i'll feel mentally relaxed and relieved afterwards i think you know for some people the casino if you're relieving some stress getting some stress out there it could be relaxing i love that you compete wrestling in jiu-jitsu no let's see those nails i I'm like, how do you do that? Not when I compete. You should watch her flip somebody on their head. I literally just did these today. That's pretty awesome.
Starting point is 01:45:13 We got a good point here from Shane. He says, how many people only know about the Durham Report because Trump said what he did about the death penalty? With media blackout, my guess is many. Good point. That's actually a really good point. There's a lot of people who are now going, what? Does it have the death penalty for what?
Starting point is 01:45:27 And they read the story and they're like, Durham report. So it may not work for everybody, but Trump may get some people, you know. That's a very, very good insight from that guy. I think he raises a very good point. Yep. I love this quote. Heckles Jekyll says, it's a big club and you ain't in it, George Carlin. And he also said, it's the same club that he was the beach over the head with.
Starting point is 01:45:46 Yes. And there's a lot more to that, but George Carlin really, really was just fantastic. Let's grab some super chats. Grant Thompson says, I'm not Japanese. However, I find the, why do we have a military base in Japan question
Starting point is 01:46:01 to be really ignorant. It's not like you dropped an atomic bomb on them twice and made them sign a constitution to not have a standing army again. Yeah, but that's over now, isn't it? That's fair. They've been allowed to have their own army for a few years or something. It's not remotely ignorant. I know the history of why we're there, but I'm saying so you never get to reevaluate military decisions 70 years later? Right.
Starting point is 01:46:20 Right? I mean, we have military decisions from the Civil War, from the Revolutionary War. So if we're not allowed to reassess our current status of forces around the world, then, I mean, I don't believe in forever pacts or agreements. Right. Ghost Crusader says, Tim, I have to correct you on Bolton. Trump hired him during Rocket Man's tough talks. Trump hired him because everyone knew he was a war hawk. It was for optics.
Starting point is 01:46:43 Still was a bad decision. Agreed. Agreed on everything. Yeah. Trump was a war hawk. It was for optics. Still was a bad decision. Agreed. Agreed on everything. Yeah. Trump was trying to look big. It was also, I think, Sheldon Adelson. Was that who it was? Wanted him to hire Bolton.
Starting point is 01:46:54 It's been reported. I don't know if I believe this stuff. It's really, really hard these days. Because CNN will come out and they'll be like, Donald Trump does backflip. And I'm like, I just don't believe you. Sheldon Adelson, the- Financier. The casino magnate, right? Is that who it is? Yeah. Okay. flip and i'm like i just don't believe sheldon addison the the the financier the the casino magnet right is that who it is yeah okay i had a report you know he was you know behind it yeah
Starting point is 01:47:11 like he was advising trump like look you know hire this guy and trump trusted him or something like that ceo of las vegas sands corporation yeah but i don't know if that's true i don't know i read it on some article and you never know these days yeah i think he's passed right died in january 11 2021 yeah yeah all right let's read what we got here patricia swisher says read further canadia is seizing funds and forcing crowd funders payment processors to report yeah i mentioned that i love canadia canadia canadia do you think they'll be able to do to crypto sorry i mean to interrupt you will they be able to do to crypto? Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you. Will they be able to do to crypto what they're able to do with things like GoFundMe and GivePayGo, whatever it is?
Starting point is 01:47:53 I mean, they'll be playing whack-a-mole with crypto if they do that. No. You don't think it will be able to be seized in the same way, even though it's digital? It can be seized, yeah. It's a lot harder. But when they kick your door in and crack you over the head with a baton and black bag you and then drag you out into a van and say, give us the keys to your accounts, you probably do it. Yeah. So if they want it, they'll get it. But will the government be able to seize it as easily as they can seize your Bank of America account?
Starting point is 01:48:19 No. What's going to happen, though, is for ease, people are going to start setting up exchange accounts to hold their crypto. Look, if you have a million dollars in cash, you know, it's like it's surprisingly small. People don't realize this. Like if you ever actually look at $100 bills and it's like a small thing, it's like not that much money. I mean, it's a lot of money, but it's not that volume. That's a slight volume. He's like, I know what a million dollars in cash looks like.
Starting point is 01:48:42 No, I was watching this like video online and it was like showing a man next to piles of money and it was like in movies they open a briefcase that's like a million dollars but if they i think it was maybe adam ruins everything they open the briefcase and there's like a small little pile in the middle of the briefcase but anyway if you have that and you bury it in the woods somewhere yeah the government can't see they don't know where it is they can try and find it and try and figure out how to get it if you let someone else hold your money like a bank yeah the government's going to walk up and be like give me the money and the bank's gonna be like you got a boss here you go and now your money's gone this is what people are going to do it's easier to have your money in an
Starting point is 01:49:15 exchange than it is to personally hold it in your own wallet or to hold the keys or a cold store or anything like that so like anybody else they'll put their money in a bank, in the crypto version of it, and the government will go to that and say, block them out, and they'll lock your account, and then you have nothing. I could see like if you put all the crypto on your personal wallet and then you sent a bunch onto cold storage and then you took your cold storage keys
Starting point is 01:49:37 and you went and buried them in your backyard, they might not be able to find those keys if they come and they're like, give us the keys. You're like, I don't know where they are anymore. I lost them. But they're still going to have evidence that the money was yours and you moved it to another account. That's a thing. With cash,
Starting point is 01:49:51 someone can give you cash and no one knows you had it because it's a physical object. With crypto, in almost every circumstance, almost, they'll be able to know you did take the money and you'll say, I don't know where it is, but they'll be like, BS, you took it. They can charge you for it. They can say, here's the evidence, Your Honor. They take the money. And you'll say, I don't know where it is, but they'll be like, BS, you took it. They can charge you for it.
Starting point is 01:50:06 They can say, here's the evidence, Your Honor. They got the cash. Whereas you can't do that with cash. Cashless society will not be fun, my friends. When everyone's got a social credit score, and then one day it's like your score dips below 200 and your bank account gets locked. And it's like to improve your score, do social good. And it'll say things like – Shake your neighbor's hand.
Starting point is 01:50:25 No, no. It'll be like if you go one day without increasing your carbon footprint, you earn one point. So it's like they lock your bank account, but it's like don't worry. Now you won't increase your carbon footprint for a day, and by tomorrow, you'll be able to buy again. That'll be life. Yeah. I love those reports where it's like if you buy a gun your score goes down. You see that?
Starting point is 01:50:46 No. If you buy a score if you buy a gun or alcohol or cigarettes your ESG goes down. Oh boy. If you're buying carbon
Starting point is 01:50:54 I'm dead. My score must be zero. Yeah. That's all I buy are gun alcohol and cigarettes. Yo people you just cannot
Starting point is 01:51:03 let the ESG stuff happen. People don't realize. You're going to be unemployable. You're going to have no bank account. There's not going to be any cash. And the only food you're going to get is going to be from a shelter, and it's going to be trash, garbage food. It's like
Starting point is 01:51:20 you'll live outside of these gigantic, homogenized Borg cities where you'll have no access. But I will say the parallel economy is being built. Yes. So I've heard that they're going to be training kids and adults to code in the future and for the metaverse and conscript them as slaves to build the system while they're inside it. Jeez. That's exciting.
Starting point is 01:51:41 Yeah. This is Allison McDowell's uncovered this idea. This is terrifying. All right. Let's read some more. Tim Jakes' correction. The K this is Allison McDowell's uncovered this idea. This is terrifying. All right, let's read some more. Tim Jakes' correction, the KGB is now called the SVR. The FSB is internal security. SVR is external. There's also the GRU, military.
Starting point is 01:51:54 So the three Russian intel services are SVR, GRU, and FSB. Thank you very much. Very, very, very good. Good to know. Matt says, scratch the surface of the internet and you'll find believable theories that Trudeau is the son of Fidel Castro. Might explain his motivation
Starting point is 01:52:11 to be a charismatic and feared dictator. Thoughts? I have not looked into it at all, but I will say, I saw a picture of Trudeau and Castro side by side, and I'm like, they got the same nose. It is a striking resemblance.
Starting point is 01:52:22 And he looks nothing like his quote unquote dad either. They got the same nose. It's true. They got the same hair. But is a striking resemblance. And he looks nothing like his quote unquote dad either. They got the same nose. It's true. They got the same hair. But I'd have to look into it because there's a lot of crazy stuff on the internet. It's like Prince Harry is not the son of Charles and all those things. So Pierre adopted Justin from Fidel as like a diplomatic. He doesn't know.
Starting point is 01:52:40 Oh, he doesn't know. Fidel and Pierre's wife were hanging out. Yeah. Smoking Cuban cigars, if you know what I'm saying. Weren't they friends? Were they friends? I don't know. Oh, he doesn't know. Fidel and Pierre's wife were hanging out. Yeah. They were. You know what I'm saying? Weren't they friends? Were they friends? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:52:50 I'm pretty sure they... There's a picture of him with her. Yeah. She's got her hand on his arm and everything. Oh, wow. I'm telling you. They're doing it. Trudeau's mom? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:55 There's a picture? Yes. Oh, that makes me believe it. That makes me believe it. That definitely happened. Yes. No, it definitely happened. It's totally true.
Starting point is 01:53:03 Wow. The surprising life of Justin Trudeau's party-loving mom. Uh-huh. Whoa, this is cool. Mm-hmm. Margaret Trudeau. Close friend. You got a picture of her with...
Starting point is 01:53:13 Yeah, there's pictures of her hanging out with Castro. That's her. And that's his dad on the other side. Pretty friendly there. Castro right in between them. Yeah, it's pretty fun. Well, Canada always had relations with Cuba, right? I think Canada never severed diplomatic ties.
Starting point is 01:53:26 She's laughing with her arm around him, with her arm on his bicep, with her hand on his bicep. Oh, my gosh. That's what I'm talking about. With their son. What? Is that little Justin is a baby? He's got her hand on his arm. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:53:38 I'm telling you. This one. This one that goes viral all the time. Yep. Cristino. Suss. Suss. All right. You don't put your hand on somebody like that. That's evidence I. Yep. Justino. Suss. Suss. All right.
Starting point is 01:53:45 You don't put your hand on somebody like that. That's evidence I needed. You don't do that normally. Not unless you like to have it. Look at the mustache they put on him. That's great. Is that Justin Trudeau's dad? Yeah, Pierre.
Starting point is 01:53:56 That's Pierre. Yo, Justin Trudeau's got Castro's nose in it. He looks like Castro. Wait, is that a young? Yeah. This is a fun rabbit hole. What is this? At this point, I'm pretty much like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:09 This isn't edited? This is better than X-Tain, man. I don't know. Maybe it is. No, it's not edited. This is my favorite conspiracy theory. But the nose is exactly the same. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:54:15 Look at that nose. The eyebrows even. I think with facial hair, they look freaking identical. Wow. Yeah. Now we just got to find out when his mom was hanging out with Castro and when he was born. Yeah, the timeline lines up. Wow.
Starting point is 01:54:27 Yep. How old is Justin Trudeau? Probably like 53, 50? I'm not sure how old he is. Dude, there's a picture of... Is that Justin Trudeau that Castro is carrying next to Trudeau's mom? I don't know. Or you got that picture too?
Starting point is 01:54:40 Yeah, that's the one. That's him. Yeah, that one. His mom's right next to the... On the right, but she's cropped out of this one. And that's Justin Trudeau's dad? Yeah, that's weird. He looks's him. Yeah, that one. His mom's right next to it on the right, but she's cropped out of this one. And that's Justin Trudeau's dad? Yeah. He looks nothing like him.
Starting point is 01:54:48 Nothing like Justin. Yo, what? Oh, my gosh. What? I think we just cracked it, guys. I think we cracked it, guys. I think we did it. His dad looks like-
Starting point is 01:54:56 Look at this. He looks nothing like his dad. Francois Mitterrand. Yeah. His dad looks like- He's like a French guy. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:03 Justin Trudeau looks nothing like this guy. Yeah. Wow. Castor looks so happy when he's with a French guy. Yeah. Yeah. Justin Trudeau looks nothing like this guy. Yeah. Wow. Kester looks so happy when he's with her, too. Look, I got to be honest. If you show this to people who don't know who these guys are, and you take, like, people are going to be like, what are they, brothers or something? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:18 Yeah, for real. They look a lot alike. I don't know. He doesn't look anything like his dad, though. So-called dad. Right? Isn't that weird? Yeah. Hey, I'm not asserting anything about it. I don't know. Yeah. It's a lot alike. I don't know. He doesn't look anything like his dad, though. So-called dad. Right? Isn't that weird? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:27 Hey, I'm not asserting anything about it. I don't know. Yeah, it's a great theory. I love it. But I saw this and I was like, they got the same nose. Look at that. They sure do. They got the same nose.
Starting point is 01:55:33 Well, and they have the same proclivity to just silence protesters. Be dictators. So, yeah. Yep. There you go, man. It's a crazy world that we live in, huh? Fun. A little aside.
Starting point is 01:55:43 Is that against YouTube's rules to accuse Justin Trudeau of being Fidel Castro's son? Oh, boy. No, man. It's a crazy world that we live in, huh? Fun, little aside. Is that against YouTube's rules to accuse Justin Trudeau of being Fidel Castro's son? To suggest it might be is totally fine. I think you can probably accuse people of their genetic heritage. People are calling him Trudeau with an X. Yeah, Castro.
Starting point is 01:55:59 Yeah, Castro with an E-A-U. That's what it is. So I guess the question is, did you use it or did you say it? You know, like the N-word. What did you do right now with this accusation? Did you make the accusation or did you just say it? I reported it. I reported the accusation.
Starting point is 01:56:13 There you go. Context is everyone. There you go. Just looking at pictures, just asking questions. All right. Joe Taylor says, Ian, the photo showed Trudeau at a 2001 Arabian Nights themed party wearing a turban and dark makeup and sticking out his tongue. Awesome.
Starting point is 01:56:26 Thank you. Awesome. Thank you for the, not what happened, but thank you for clarifying. Context. Alright. Proto says, look up 1979 Tractorcade. It contains a lesson. Even when the government has acquiesced, it tends to return to business as usual. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:56:48 Ray Corrin says, you are all wrong about why we have bases all over ask the sons of our men that died in france germany italy korea and fighting japan we paid with blood to defend them when they could not or to defend to defeat or to defeat the nazis and japanese keep in mind that eisenhower knew the risk we were taking when we set up this liberal economic order and he knew that if we let the military that it take over that it was going to get really really really bad and he tried to warn people eisenhower yeah the military industrial complex yeah and his farewell speech when he left office he was the general in the eastern theater remember when that dude yeah he wasn't that big remember when that dude alleged that a group of bankers were trying to take over the country? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:27 The federal reserve. Smedley Butler, was that his name? The banker plot? When was that? Yeah. I know very little about that. He was like, a bunch of bankers are trying to take over and subvert the United States. They were trying to recruit me to do it.
Starting point is 01:57:37 Interesting. And they were like, well, I don't know about all that. And then a bunch of bankers met on Jekyll Island and created the Federal Reserve. Oh, I didn't know Smedley Butler. They were trying to get him involved. Is that what the story is? Am I getting it wrong? I and created the Federal Reserve. Oh, I didn't know Smedley Butler, they were trying to get him involved. Is that what the story is? Am I getting it wrong? I don't know. Look it up.
Starting point is 01:57:48 I don't know. Can you Google the guy's name? Smedley Butler's a guy. Google the banker plot. Okay. Yeah, the banker plot. The banker plot, yeah. Well, Ian, Google's to politely contradict your super chat
Starting point is 01:58:01 to say, again, I'm not saying I don't know why those bases weren't erected after the war. I'm just saying that 70 years later, you're allowed to reassess what is happening. I made perfect sense. Maybe it made more sense in 1945 and 1955, but it's 2022. And to say, well, we paid in blood. I know a lot of Turner men fought in those wars, too. But you are allowed to reassess your military decisions.
Starting point is 01:58:26 You're almost entitled to and probably have to. Don't you have to? Every decision at a certain point? You're right, Tim. The business plot. It's a political conspiracy. Yeah, in 1933 in the United States to overthrow the government of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and install a dictator, retired Marine Corps General Smedley Butler asserted that wealthy
Starting point is 01:58:43 businessmen were plotting to create a fascist veterans organization with Butler as its leader and use it as a coup d'etat to overthrow Roosevelt. So that was well after the Federal Reserve, though. Yeah, about 20 years after it was formed. All right. David Nagel says, the Joe Rogan article is based on the February 7th Homeland Security Update,
Starting point is 01:59:00 which makes Joe Rogan a terrorist based on mis, dis, or mal information. Check it out. It's really crazy. I covered it over on my YouTube.com slash TimCast channel. If you're not subscribed there, you can check out that channel and YouTube.com slash TimCast News. But I talked about that. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:59:25 They said basically anyone who is producing or sharing information that subverts confidence in the U.S. government is an extremist. Dude, talking about this business plot and this fascist coup, basically there was a lot of fascist uprising in the early 30s. You had Italy, obviously, Mussolini, Hitler in Germany, and then the Spanish Civil War was 36 to 39. It looks like these bankers, it worked in Spain. And maybe in the United States it failed, but that there was like a global, because there was a global movement to create fascist governments all over the place at that time in history. Let's talk about this in the member segment. And I want to talk about this tweet from the ATF where they tell people to turn on their exes and rat them out for illegal gun activities.
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Starting point is 02:01:23 And I will say before I close, I just wanted to touch on this because that guy's tweet, that retired police officer, it says, I'm hearing Quintez Brown is in custody as a potential shooter. That is true. Then he says a bunch of people he's friends with. I don't know about that. He is correct that this is the same BLM protester that went missing. Wait, it's true that the guy's in jail. It is true that this is the guy that was charged. So what's the confirmation on that? So yeah yeah. So that is from the Courier Journal. I guess it's just a...
Starting point is 02:01:47 So a BLM protester was charged. Oh, wow. That's correct. That's the guy. There we go. That's all we needed. Yeah. So I just want to make sure that we know the facts.
Starting point is 02:01:54 I don't know who that guy is or what his source is or if he's friends with these other people. But it's really easy to look this stuff up. And I recommend everybody do it. If you're not sure, do a little Google research. It's all out there. It's easy to do. I think we'll pull that one up to get started on the members i will get interesting okay yeah that's very important yes journalists are very very bad at doing this and
Starting point is 02:02:11 something about twitter means that people can't google things so i really recommend all you guys do it if you ever have a question about it anyway you guys can follow me on twitter for more deep wonderful insights like this at sarah patchlets and on minds.com i've got one last super chat i find interesting chris says justin isn't fidel's son margaret trudeau met fidel in 1976 justin was born in 1971 the baby in the pic is justin's younger brother michael wow you see there you go very cool thanks for hanging out everybody go to timcast.com we're going to talk about this blm things assassination whatever this is crazy stuff and thanks for hanging out
Starting point is 02:02:46 and we'll see you all there bye guys

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