Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #473 - National Guard To Deploy In DC Over US Freedom Convoy w/Steve Rene

Episode Date: February 23, 2022

Tim, Ian, Timcast.com executive editor Chris Karr, and Lydia join Steve Rene, COO of Fortitude Ranch, to discuss them deployment of the National Guard to DC in anticipation of a possible trucker convoy in the US, Biden's sanction of Russian leadership in a next step as prelude to possible actual war, how Biden's weakness paves the way for Putin's plans, the alleged killer in the most recent Portland Antifa violence, and the majority of Democrats who back Justin Trudeau's politically-motivated executive overreach. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

DC is preparing for the U.S. Freedom Convoy and is being reported by Fox that the National Guard will be deployed. So we can expect things to get, well, maybe not so much out of hand, but a bit more serious here in the U.S., though I think things will be particularly different. Up in Canada, the police there were absolutely brutal, mocking, injuring protesters and leaked messages, gloating about trampling a woman with horses. And here's where it gets scary. As Justin Trudeau is using very serious and extreme emergency powers, having his powers extended by Canadian Parliament, freezing bank accounts of single mothers for donating 50 bucks. A new poll has come out. Trafalgar Group found that 65% of likely Democrat voters support what Justin Trudeau has done. Now, I understand it's a different country,

but that says a lot about where Democrat voters in this country are. Now, interestingly, in this poll, unaffiliated voters overwhelmingly disapprove, 74%. Republican voters, I believe it's 87, overwhelmingly disapprove what is going on in this country that Democrat voters are holding these extreme authoritarian views and supporting this kind of insanity. So I can only imagine what would happen with the Democrat administration as these freedom truckers, this convoy makes their way to the US. So we'll get into all of that.

We have some news as to why that may be. Apparently, according to another poll from Gallup, Democrats don't watch the news right now. They've just totally tuned out more so than most other groups. So that could explain a lot of it. Cal Rittenhouse is filing or says he's going to be launching a project to file defamation suits against people who smeared him, like Cenk Uygur of the Young Turks and Whoopi Goldberg. And then, of course, there's actually very serious and important news that Biden is sanctioning Ukraine specific. Biden is sanctioning Russian officials, not over Ukraine. And it looks like the Nord Stream 2 pipeline may be getting shuttered because of all of what's happening. Look, a lot of people don't think there could be an expansion of conflict over

some regional conflict in Europe. But you got gotta understand that if the conflict does escalate and it has putin's putting peacekeep peacekeepers military into eastern ukraine it's just dominoes falling now biden announces sanctions then russia says well we're going to do this that or otherwise then one by one dominoes fall over until something seriously bad happens. So let's get into all of this. Once again, talking about just the insane state of affairs in this world. And joining us today is the COO of Fortitude Ranch, Steve Rene. Hey, Tim. Good to be back.

Thanks for coming. Do you want to introduce yourself a little bit? Sure. I'm the COO of Fortitude Ranch. We are a survival and recreational community. We have six locations across the U.S., and we're looking to continue to expand. I'm also the COO of Survival Housing, which is a new startup for us, and we're looking to get into consulting for those who wouldn't necessarily want to join Fortitude Ranch

but need some help in setting up a homestead, a preparation, a bug-out site. We also have partners that we're partnering up with for housing solutions in such occasion. So you've also got military experience. I do. Actually, I think you were saying you lived in Ukraine as well? I lived in Belarus. Belarus, Belarus.

Yes, visited Ukraine many times. So you think you'll be able to give us some insights into what's going on right now? Absolutely. That's going to be fantastic. So thanks for coming. We've got Chris Carr hanging out as well. Hey, the one and only executive editor at TimC now. Absolutely. This is going to be fantastic. Thanks for coming. We've got Chris Carr hanging out as well.

Hey, the one and only executive editor at TimCast.com. Thanks for having me, guys. This is going to be a great conversation. I'm really looking forward to hearing your insights.

Thanks. Yeah, war is no joke. World War I began for much less than what we're looking at right now. It's just a bunch of defensive packs triggering and no one really knew

what the hell was going on and all of a sudden everyone's fighting each other. Be ever vigilant if you want to prevent this stuff. And I am also here in the corner. Steve and his convoy brought me a Sour Patch Kids little bobblehead pop thing. It's amazing. I love it and I appreciate it.

And I'm really looking forward to Steve because he brings such great depth of wisdom and he has a lot of experience in the world. So we'll have a great conversation tonight for sure. They also gave Ian a 20-second. Oh, my gosh, I've got to show you this. So cool, yeah. Ari brought this for me. Thanks, dude. So cool. This is a 20-sided die. It's about as psychedelic as I am. 20s only

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reportedly deploy beginning Tuesday and remain in place until the end of March. The New York Times, I'm sorry, Fox News is saying they have a source telling them this, that the truckers are requesting a permit for 1,000 to 3,000 people to gather in the Capitol. And the National Guard will reportedly be deploying Tuesday and remain in place until the end of March. So I don't know exactly what we're going to see right now. Tow trucks are apparently on scene in dc already and they're saying they've been contracted by the city for like 10 days or so and i believe the the u.s freedom convoys they're set to leave in a couple days from barstow california it's barstow right is that where we're getting a lot of conflicting reports i was talking with our field reporter about that today and like we're comparing notes and it's really hard to figure out exactly what's going on right now but they're

expecting to be in dc what march 1st yes state of the union address yeah that's the plan that's a bold time to come in so they're already putting up security perimeter fencing i think it's going to look very very different to what we saw in in in canada but i suppose you know um the truckers are going to be prepared for that and i'm wondering i'm wondering how things are going to go i mean the mandates out here in the in the states i mean they're going away it's not the same as it is in canada and canada it's absolutely brutal they're beating people they're laughing about it trampled some old old woman you know on a mobility scooter and then the cops were posting messages laughing about it messages got leaked what do you guys think's going to happen you think the u.s is

going to get rowdy yeah well i think they're smart to get the permit, first of all, right? So you don't have a repeat. You don't put yourself in the same situation, what happened in Canada. And then, but how, that doesn't mean that everybody involved in the convoy are going to act the same way. So along the way, I wouldn't be surprised if they stopped somewhere and clogged something ahead of getting to the permit site, right? If you're looking to make a statement. And so it'll be interesting to see how that works. Or like an FBI agent steps up on the back of the truck and throws a brick and is like, hey, the truckers are throwing bricks. I do not.

This is just red flags, red light flashing warning. Be careful. They're ready for you. The fascist organization that is controlling the United States and Canada and all of the Western democracies, this liberal economic order is ready for you. They're planning for this. They already got the National Guard prepared. They're going to call people domestic terrorists. They're going to put people in solitary.

Be prepared. Ian, you just cranked it all the way up to 11. First, the international cabal that's controlling the Western. Well, I think it's fair to say that, you know, Biden called Trudeau. They had a conversation about what's happening with the convoy. Biden urged Trudeau to crack down with federal authority. Trudeau then started using these insane emergency powers to freeze bank accounts. So I would maybe turn it to 10,

just go down one notch. I don't know if there's some, if it's a cabal like Biden and Trudeau, you know, go and then hang out at a secret meeting underground or anything like that. I certainly think these world leaders have trade agreements, have economic ties, and whether or not you can say there's one unified organization, like as if Biden and Trudeau literally work for the World Economic Forum. I don't know about all that. I know that they're interested in supporting. I know that they're negotiating with. I know they attend these similar events. So, you know, just one notch down, but, you know, I'm not completely in complete disagreement. Yeah. The Bank of International Settlements loans money to the Bank of England and the Federal Reserve of New York, which is where, I don't know if Canada gets their money through England.

I don't know where they, where does Canada print its money from? It's Central Bank. Everyone's just responding 20. Yeah. It's just, it's so true. When you're up against a machine gun nest, we talked about this yesterday, you do not charge straight at it. That's what these people have done.

They charged the position with the Canadian ones. The defenders were like unprepared. They're like, with the Canadian ones. The defenders were unprepared. They're like, ah. Then they set up a machine gun nest to protect the area. Now, if you're going to go at it, you've got to find new methodologies, man. It is so dangerous to repeat this action. Yeah, and the other important thing, too, is with the Freedom Convoy in Canada, they really underestimated it. They had no idea.

They tried smearing it. They tried calling them violent. None of it works. None of it sticks. So then they just say, okay go we're going full fash they just go full fascist they freeze bank accounts they even get socialists like vosh posting on twitter like whoa this has gone too far they even get you know more establishment types like stephen marsh was on the show saying like that's martial law so they went over the top. I'd be willing to bet they've learned from those mistakes. In the United States, very, very different from Canada.

The police are going to be way more brutal. Tear gas will be deployed. They're going to be embedded, I guarantee it, in the trucker convoy the moment they leave, following them every step of the way. And I think they're going to do everything in their power to disrupt it. But also, they're going to be spying on everything the truckers say or do they need more enemies the january 6th things getting becoming old news and those people have been off the radar dude oh god when you have a huge military you're constantly looking for a place to use it because it's costing you money

if you're not well look we've all we all we all hear about what's going on in ukraine and with with with russia and it's remarkable that that's biden's priority i i know i know it's probably a Look, we all hear about what's going on in Ukraine and with Russia. And it's remarkable that that's Biden's priority. I know it's probably a cliche at this point to bring it up. It's become a trope. The southern border is wide open, just completely obliterated. People are pouring through and the US government doesn't care. And so when I see that, you know, my view is it's very obvious the Biden administration has no allegiance to this country.

I just don't believe it. I really, really don't. Sending troops to Ukraine? Why? To help Ukraine? To help NATO? To help Europe? What about us?

We don't have troops in Ukraine. No, we haven't been in Belarus or – Well, no, we haven't been in Poland. Poland. So the 18th Airborne and – 82nd, is it? And the 82nd are there. Now, we do have, from what I've read, we have troops, those who are doing training,

which generally in the past that's always been Green Berets. When they're put into that position, that's who generally do the training, and they're trying to help the Ukrainian forces. But that's all the way close to the border with Ukraine. So we have no troops in danger there in Ukraine. I just mean, you know, why is it such a heavy priority for the U.S. to be involved in training in Poland and doing these things when we're not even taking care of ourselves? Well, it's really kind of a two-sided coin.

I agree, right, that something needs to be done with the border, but that is the plan. The plan is to keep it open, right? That is the policy. And so, obviously, there isn't any other way to stop it other than the states along the border trying to build their own walls, trying to enforce, you know, what is the actual law along the border themselves so i i get the analogy but the danger of uh what's going on in ukraine right now is uh one it is immediate i'm not talking about world war three this has been a carefully orchestrated plan on the part of putin and it's not going to stop even if all he does is what he's done now he's won yep so i mean he won with crimea no absolutely yeah and then all he has to do is take a break and redo it again and i you know i tweeted putin was afraid of trump and i i

believe i believe it but i got response. I got a funny response. It was Jemaine Clement from Flight of the Concords responded to me. And he was he does something like sure he was. And it was a picture of like Putin sitting next to Trump or something. And I'm like, I don't I don't know that picture is supposed to be. I genuinely believe like, dude, Putin can walk up to Trump and take a picture with him and smile and laugh. Putin wasn't afraid that Donald Trump would physically harm him. Putin's KGB training, you know, what does he do, jujitsu or whatever? I don't think he's afraid of Trump on a physical man-to-man level, like he's going to walk up to him and go, oh, no, it's Trump. He's afraid that Trump is insane and that if he did something, Trump would act irrationally and do something irrational.

That would make it very difficult for him to do exactly what he's doing. Right. But honestly, whoever is in office, and I agree with what you're saying to a certain degree, no one was going to stop him. I don't care who was in office because we're not going to put troops in Ukraine because they are not a member of NATO. Both sides of defense have agreed, right? There's already resolutions already saying, boots on the ground, no. Support, that's going to happen. So I do agree with what you're saying, but we're dealing with a different

creature in Vladimir Putin. But under, look, so we saw the escalation of this under Obama. And then under Trump, it kind of just fizzles. It kind of just goes into stasis. Biden gets in and all of a sudden it ignites again. No, and true. But that is also part of the cycle. And this is, I mean, this is kind of what he waits for, right? Opportunity. Yeah. So when you have your opportunity, you strike. So as we talk about more civil unrest and civil disobedience here in the united states listen china and russia who are becoming closer and closer together we have the military capability to stop either one not both well i guess the fear

is that if the u.s becomes distracted china moves in on Taiwan, or there have been some experts who have argued that China will adopt the Russia strategy on Taiwan and use pressure, control, manipulation, propaganda, and just slowly eat away at it until they can take Taiwan. I feel like the Americans, a lot of Americans are still in the mindset of the B-52, the age of the B-52, the war of the B-52 bomber. Like, it's not, we're not the dominant force anymore there's lasers that can blow up everything from everywhere anyone thinks that we got the biggest

balls on the planet uh are living in 1970 so uh you actually saw trump one time was like we have the best generals we can win any and you see the generals like shut up dude stop don't make us like don't put us out there as like this military. But do we really have the best generals? No, no, no. We don't. And we don't have the best military either. All these militaries are equally destructive at this point.

Well. At least the Chinese, Russian, and American militaries. If any one of those wants to wipe the planet clean, they could do it. For the 11 aircraft carriers currently floating around the world, we own all of them but one. Except how many nuclear submarines are there that we don't see to think that we're the best because we it looks like we're the best it's really just a good point i'm a little biased because i served oh yeah i think we are the best i not only and the reason why i think we are the best now is because we when i was in having a patch on your left shoulder was very rare it came from

vietnam now if you don't have one it's an oddity we are battle hardened and tested your these are not just high school kids just going in and and going through just training but actually going through the rigors of war and and i think it's a good point, Ian. We don't know. We can only make assumptions about the capabilities of these other countries because they're not going to tell us. But the same could be said for the United States. So for now, if what we know is we don't know what China secretly got

because it's a secret, we don't know what Russia secretly has because it's a secret, we don't know what the U.S. has because it's a secret as well. But the U.S. on top of that has 11 aircraft carriers out there. And doesn't the U.S. have like 20 or something like that? Well, so the largest air force in the world is United States Air Force. And then the second largest is United States Navy. Yep.

Yeah. Air power. And I'll just make one more point. Sorry. No. We can see with satellites when other countries are building weapons because we can see shipping lanes we can see the movement of resources i can't remember who was talking to us about this they were saying like you know we would know if these other countries were building

warships or advanced technology because of the massive amount of manpower and resources to move all this stuff when it came to the manhattan project we didn't have satellite spot we didn't have spy satellites or anything like that. So when blasts were going off, you know, sensors were picking things up, but the Russians, they couldn't, you know, I'm sorry, this is during World War II, like the, you know, Axis powers were just like, hmm, what's happening? Throughout the Cold War with all the nuclear testing, it was espionage. You had to like physically go. Now we got satellites up there just watching everybody. They can read your license plates.

So we can see everything. Plus we have AI tracking all this stuff, and it will be like we've noticed a large deposit of iron being shipped underground for some reason. And then the U.S. is going to be like we know something is being built there. Well, and the key is not simply to have the best or the well-trained, but you have to have them in position to win. This is why we don't want to. I mean, I thought Larry Sharp was, you know, that was awesome yesterday. Great ideas. But to get out of NATO, that would be a mistake.

You have to have the force in position or it's basically not going to be able to react. I think ground forces and now we're in the age of intercontinental ballistic missiles and rods from God, tungsten rods dropping from orbit. We're all in position now to get destroyed. But that hasn't changed. It's been that way for a long time, literally since the late 90s or something. But we're fighting warfare with sanctions right now.

So Biden's like, I'm going to sanction these rich guys because they want to put pressure on these ultra wealthy individuals who are like hey man i like flying on planes and eating you know steaks in new york city don't sanction me and they're hoping that influence will trickle down and cause some change i think if we if the u.s got embroiled it'd be like the power grid gets blown up um and then they cut off all their oil from from europe and asia and no and then america's done for like if the power goes i don't know it feels like so vulnerable everyone acts so tough and like we do have great troops and we have we used to have the best technology but now well don't get me wrong i'm surely not advocating for any of it yeah but i'm going to

defend my brothers in arms also um well let me ask you guys. If the president came out and said, we need to build wind farms, solar power, so that we can have sufficient energy in the event of war, do you think people would be like, oh, that sounds good to me? Or do you think they'd be like, no, no war, don't do it? Raytheon would be like, that's a great idea. Let's start building solar panels. But isn't that the appropriate, you know, you've got the climate change left and you've got the energy independent loving right.

Couldn't they just be like, we're going to be energy independent so that no one can screw with us. Hey, the climate change left wins on this one. The right, you know, we see the market energy independence. We went on this one. It seems like unity there. No, and there should be because that's the grid. Our electrical grid is one of the most insecure part of our infrastructure. We have an investor of ours in Fortitude Ranch.

His name is David Tyson. He's putting out a documentary on this, and it's really excellent. I was able to get a sneak peek um and it's uh grid down doc dot com you could actually go and see the trailer and he's going to be putting this out phenomenal job he actually has a booth at the upcoming cpac um this saturday and so he's looking to launch that and it was so well done to show exactly how vulnerable we are uh we have to i just heard it too a couple news outlets picked it up not not about his documentary but about this fact because of the possibility this thing gets out of hand our you know that's our weakest point

and when that happens i'm sorry that's going to bring in this the most serious crisis of our time in the possible collapse and it'll be a cyber attack and it will start with cyber yeah we talked about before the show we're talking about this and i mentioned driving down the street and i saw a big power plant just there i was like that's the most vulnerable absolutely and then you would mention well dad but that's not even the cyber aspect of it that's just the physical blunt trauma you can inflict on the power grid locally. And think about sleeper cells, right? So if somebody is really looking to destabilize us and things get out of hand there, that is going to be targeted.

It surprises me that it hasn't happened yet. Do you think that that's because they're planning a big one? Well, you've got to hold your horses. I was about to say something. You're going to enjoy it. Thanks, Tim. There was this moment during the Trump presidency where Trump ordered an airstrike on Iranian targets.

Abruptly, Donald Trump ordered the airstrike off, told him, turn around, come back home. And when asked why, he said, I asked how many people were down there. They said 500, and I said it didn't make sense to kill that many people in this strike. So we called it off. But one thing I noticed, and it could be totally unrelated, was that from the point where the airstrike was deployed, in that moment, I believe it was some kind of oil refinery in Philadelphia, exploded for some reason.

Now, I asked a bunch of my cybersecurity and, you know, like whitehead hacker buddies, and they said they didn't think in any way it was related. And I said, is that because you don't have evidence or because you think it's impossible? And they were like, well, I have no reason to believe it. Sometimes these accidents happen, but it's certainly possible. And so, again, there's no evidence suggested to the case, but is it possible that Trump ordered an airstrike and Iran said, blow up a reactor and blow up a refinery in Philadelphia? Did. Then they rushed to Trump and they said, they're holding our facilities hostage. You need to call this off before we get decimated from a cyber attack. One thing I can tell you is that industrial control systems in the US are extremely vulnerable to cyber attacks because a lot of them were built in the 70s.

They use this archaic and ancient operating systems. They're being updated, obviously, and security is a big issue. But, man, some of the people that I've talked to who work in the security areas of this stuff have just been like – it's like a few lines of basic code can blow up this facility. You make me think of Stuxnet. This is from Malicious Computer. You've heard up this facility. You make me think of Stuxnet. This is from Malicious Computer. You've heard of this stuff. Malicious Computer Worm, first uncovered in 2010 and thought to have been developed since at least 2005.

It targets supervisory control and data acquisition systems and is believed to be responsible for causing substantial damage to the nuclear program of Iran. Now, if we did that to Iran, I wouldn't be shocked if Iran did that back. And I think it was the u.s and israel working together on the weapon yes and then uh what what it did was it caused the nuclear centrifuges to not stop so then they eventually overheated and blew up there's just one that we think that we've uncovered stuxnet there's probably i think i think it was because someone found stuxnet infecting like home computers or something i could be wrong about that

well and so the you know we got the information from the Israelis, the specifics, and that's why we knew exactly how the functioning inner workings were with the pumps and the different things that work the controlling mechanisms. And so we went to the heart. I see. So we figured out how it worked

and we wrote code to disrupt how it worked. It was specifically written to do that one thing. It's crazy. And so my understanding is that people the regular computers got infected with stuxnet but it didn't matter because it has zero effect on your home computer it was just infecting everything until it found those specific you know controls those those machines for five years until it was all covered and then it blew them up and that was like wow okay so it's not the only one.

There's been a bunch of weapons that have been developed that have been, I think a couple. I can't remember the names. And that's years ago, right? Right. Yeah, it was like 10 years ago. So imagine what's there now. What's out there? I went to, there's conventions.

There's two of them, DEFCON and Black Hat, the hacker conventions in Las Vegas. This is 10 years ago, mind you. But I saw these hackers explain very easily how to blow up pump stations. They were like, you name it, oil, water, any kind of chemical. And they did a demonstration where they showed the industrial control system. They showed it operate. And then the guy said, I'm not going to enter our code and press enter. And then all of a sudden, they put a pressure release valve. But what they did was they told the system to force pressure in the same direction so the pressure collides and builds up in one spot and causes a pipe to explode.

They put a pressure release valve on it so that it sprays across the room and they catch it in a pitcher and water sprays everywhere. They were like, imagine if we didn't have that release valve for the purpose of the demonstration. The pipe would overpressurize and blow up. Another thing they showed us was that they said for nuclear reactor cooling systems, the computer needs to know the temperature of the water. They said only a few lines of code, and we change the temperature to say it's colder than it is, overheats and explodes. Or melts down, disrupts the system. If we're wargaming this, worst- scenario or bad case scenario, there's conflict.

Someone wants to invade the country, and then they blow out the grid, the electric grid with the virus. I don't know. Would it take up the entire grid? Is there like a backup plan? And I don't even know if you're the guy that knows the answers to this, Steve, but I'm asking you. Well, you know, it's broken down into segments, right? So there's four basic hubs of where this work and how it would affect it all are not so intertwined that you could take it all at once

but then you have the whole spectrum of an emp right if we ever get to that day which would just completely fry multiples because if you'd have to do it at airburst, you wouldn't want it to hit the ground because that wouldn't have the same effect. But doing it as an airburst, then there would really be a problem. I think solar flares can cause that too. Yeah, to a degree.

We haven't seen them. The magnitude of them would have to be much more than what we normally see. So let's do this. Let's start from the beginning of where we are with this war stuff. All right, the story from the Daily Mail. Biden sanctions Putin's spy chief, his deputy chief of staff, and multimillionaire Russian military bank CEO. President hits Kremlin inner circle and deploys

more troops after slamming Russian leader for thinking he has a right to claim parts of Ukraine. So I guess today that Russia kind of upped the ante and said, you know, we're going to, you know, occupy the entirety of these regions, even the parts that are controlled by Ukraine, because they're saying they're independent states. Biden, of course, comes out and responds. Putin, I guess, what did he say that he was in a meeting and didn't bother watching what Biden had to say? Didn't hear it. This is this is the first domino. Sanctions on specific people.

If it has to escalate beyond this, if we're going to to see any of this crazy war stuff we've been talking about. So I guess right now, if this is what we're seeing, you know, Russia is putting troops in Ukraine. Do you see a strong possibility, Steve, of it escalating beyond just sanctions. Yes, because they've already been claiming that the Ukrainians were shelling the separatists, which there's no proof of that. I don't know if you've seen the articles, but the separatists have been shelling into Ukraine. That we know for sure. We've seen the sides of kindergarten buildings with you know the the hole in it so again we got we have all the propaganda going on from both sides right but now you have actual

russian troops that you can say are being shelled and if actual russian troops are killed and they blame it on the ukrainians now we've just tipped another domino. It's amazing. You can invade a country and then if you get shelled while you're invading, you blame it on the defenders. Right. No, exactly. That's crazy.

And look, we have people in the chat who are saying things like, oh, but they're independent regions. They have a right to declare independence. And so the question is, did these regions really declare independence? So here's where it gets a little bit sketchy and what i mean is if you can understand what happened when the soviet union took over they russified all of the occupation countries that they were in and so you had generations and generations that while they understood their heritage they sort of felt russian and it wasn't

all that bad and then as the soviet union uh breaks down and so they retreat back to the motherland russia proper you've you've get these generations who still have a kindred spirit with the russians and so that's what you're finding along the eastern border there with Ukraine. So the reason they're doing it this way, these are Russian-speaking people. This is what they speak every day. As you start getting closer and closer to Kiev, as you keep going more to the west, they stop speaking Russian and they start speaking Ukrainian. Right.

In Kiev, though, a lot of people speak both languages. Yeah, absolutely. russian and they start speaking ukrainian well right in kiev though a lot of people speak both languages yeah absolutely so like when i would go to visit lithuania from belarus they they so do not like the russians that it's offensive to talk to them in russian but if they didn't know english i had to fall back on my russian in order for us to communicate right so but they'd be like i hate to do this but they would speak russian with me and and so you get this but that's because they were ran over right i mean the the people who are in a bad way now are the baltic states because putin has just annexed belarus you don't i mean there are articles about this but nobody

realized how important that is the troops are never never leaving Belarus again. So Russian troops in Belarus. 30,000. That's how they're going to attack from the north if whatever happened. And this is actually what puts Kiev in such a very serious, harmful way. You want to know what really trips out Americans,

I find? Kaliningrad. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Isn't that unbelievable? Cool. But now that gives you... Let me show you.

Let me show you. Kaliningrad is south of Lithuania and north of Poland. It's an enclave, right? Yeah. It's Russia. Yes. It's a Russian enclave. Piece of Russia.

Right there in the Baltic Sea. And so if you're looking at... We got Moscow. We got Russia here. We got Belarus. We got Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania. And then most people don't know this. You show them a map and you ask them, hey, look at this. Right? When it's like, there's no word here. It's just this little carve out. What is that? And the people are like, I don't know. It's Russia. Wait, what? It's Russia.

Kaliningrad. And that's very militarized. I mean, that's its only real purpose, right? And now by staying in Belarus, you now give air cover to Kaliningrad. This is a fun little factoid, though, for Americans who don't know their European geography, because I don't expect Americans to, for the most part. There is a piece of Russia in between

the Baltic states. This is kind of what started World War II. Hitler, part of Germany, was split off and given to Poland. Was it the Sudetenland, I think, or was that Czechoslovakia, part of Czechoslov War II, Hitler, part of Germany was split off and given to Poland. I think, was it the Sudetenland, I think? Or was that Czechoslovakia, part of Czechoslovakia that was? I couldn't tell you. There's part of Germany was cut off and given.

And so he invaded to take it back. Like, if the Russians invaded Lithuania to connect this area to Russia, you would see, like, similar to what Hitler did. Well, if they're occupying belarus i mean um what is this is belarus is very pro-russia no no so here's the back story to this their president alexander lukashenko has been the thorn in the side of putin for many many years he played he used to play this game he would go and look towards the west make make him mad, but look for IMF money. And then when he got what he wanted, he would go back to Putin. And then he'd give them all kinds of hassle over that pipeline coming through Belarus, right? And they get such a discount for the fact that that pipeline goes through there.

He literally called him the fly on a katnetia, which is like a piece of meat. It's a meat patty in Russian. And he's like, you're just a fly on a piece of meat. But he was a thorn. Well, his last election, he could not handle the protests after it was widespread corruption. Everybody knew it. They peacefully demonstrated like they'd never done before. He couldn't squelch it.

He called in Russian security forces. They helped him to put down that, and his payment now is they're staying. Wow. So it's an unofficial annexation. But they are going to, next month, vote to no longer become neutral, which is huge. They have signed a pact saying they would help the Russians fight the Ukrainians. Never done that before, and everything is changing. And now that puts pressure on the Baltics, gives air cover for Kaliningrad,

and that now gives you a really quick path down to kiev but are they i can't believe russia is going to move into kiev oh no no i i honestly don't think i saw these reports where they're saying you know it's like the u.s intelligence agencies are telling journalists like we believe russia will occupy kiev and start hunting down zolensky supporters he's the president of ukraine i'm like that's no way i don't want to have optimism bias or normalcy bias to say the war can't happen, but that's a bit extreme. No, honestly, yeah. But, of course, you've got to start playing the if it does happen, we talked about it, right? So you've got to look good in case it does.

So they're giving all this, interestingly enough, right? They're preemptively trying to say what he's going to do so it makes you put you in a better position. Yo, I feel so bad for Ukraine, man. Oh, I know. When the Euromaidan protests broke out, I got sent there. I went to go report there. I was working for Vice at the time. I met a lot of really cool people.

A friend of mine is from Kiev. And good food, awesome architecture, good people. I really enjoyed my time there. And then you see how the history of this country is just being brutalized throughout the Soviet Union, the Holodomor. And you mentioned the Russification of the East. It's like, well, yeah, they starved out the Ukrainians and stole their food. The breadbasket of Europe. Yep.

Some of the most fertile farmland. Absolutely. It's crying shame. I mean, I would imagine if he goes past this he needs a land bridge to korea that really helps him so if it's going to no matter how he what he's looking to do i've heard a different analysis from different experts and i agree i i don't remember who it was but basically taking one third of ukraine would probably be the smartest thing to do and wouldn't trip it into a full third world war. You get the Russian speaking, you get your land bridge down to Crimea, and then you're all set for whatever you want to do. But do you think he'll go as far as Kharkiv?

I really don't think so. But honestly, you can't. Not a very easy person to predict. Other than we've seen the pattern over and over again, right, of taking some slowly and then backing off, so that when you get to the negotiations, this has to stop. And we know from the leaked emails through the State Department, they're already willing to tell them,

we won't put certain military units in certain areas. He's already got them on the defensive, right? So it's working. I feel like he is actually is easy to predict, Putin. He seems like a stable military leader with Secret Service. He's not going to take too much too fast. He knows that he doesn't want to be

seen as a warmonger. I don't think that Putin's going to be the guy that gets us into any kind of world conflict. It would be a response to that, if anything. But he's too smart. He doesn't want to destroy stuff. It would take a miscalculation. I would agree with you with that assessment. But it would take a miscalculation.

Yeah. And that's really what the fear is here. A miscalculation. A miscalculation. Fortunately, he that's really what the fear is here. A miscalculation. A miscalculation. Fortunately smart and in control of his faculties. Right, a stray missile. Well, I'll tell you what freaks me out with this Ukraine story with Russia. Ian just mentioned the Sudetenland.

Hitler kept going saying, look, these areas were historically German or the people there are being oppressed and they're German people. So we're going to move in. And what we got from the U.K. or from Europe, Neville Chamberlain famously, was appeasement. Right. Over and over and over again as this psychopath was not only killing tons of people or had, you know, was planning to, was invading other countries and then trying to just basically take over, out of the U.S., take over the world or claim as much land as possible. We look at what Vladimir Putin's done with Crimea,

and now we're looking at what he's doing with the Donbass region. If he really does go for a third of the country, he's got to move in further. It's not just going to be the Donbass region. That is a small portion, right? No, right. So you'd go south and you'd go north. He'd go he'd cut down so yeah yeah yeah you want to connect those borders so you want to you want to meet up with belarus there because now you've already annexed it to one degree and then you want to go down and make a connection to crimea i mean that looks like

more like half the country if he goes from belarus all the way down to crimea no i'm not i'm just saying where you have that land bridge so you just you want to have the ability down to Crimea. No, I'm not. I'm just saying where you have that land bridge. So you just you want to have the ability then to move supplies. It's about supply lines. Right. Right. And so you've are we is Joe Biden or Neville Chamberlain? Is he's going to is he going to sit back and be like, oh, you know, look, we're going to what did he say in that speech? He was like, you know, it depends on if it's a minor incursion, right? Yeah, that seemed like a gaffe. I don't think that was what he was on the list for him to say. I think he— It's possible it could have been a signal that, you know, this much would be acceptable, right?

I think it was a gaffe, but I think he said the quiet part loud. I think Joe Biden and the State Department, they said, we can tolerate a minor incursion. We can't do more than that. And Biden blurted it out on national TV, and Putin went, really? Right. Okay. Because it doesn't change things to much of a degree because those areas were already occupied, right? They say they don't have Russian troops there, but they have Russian mercenaries, which are just guys straight out of the military going there.

I mean, special forces all in there. You know, you just don't wear the uniform, right? Just like they did in Crimea. So, well, it does change things because from what we're talking about is this is literally an invasion because you're breaking away international laws, precedences, and going across sovereign border. But he already built the case that that's not true. They asked for independence. We recognize it. And so it's –

But what's the point? It's kind of silly that Putinin is like well they're independent states and they've asked for help it's like who believes you the people who already side with you his people well the russians believe them but is that really the issue though he's trying to generate popular support within russia no but you've got to be able to say your boldface lie with a straight face yeah right so you have to have some argument that's true i guess if he didn't have that he'd be telling the people of his own country we are just trampling over other countries yeah or but more more importantly the u.n security council that's where you got to be

able but do they really believe no but it doesn't matter yeah because he can he can and in a way it is justified. So thinking back to the one thing he really can truly say is that NATO is really encroaching on his border, right? And I mean, he can say that. There's truth in that. Now, if you put yourself in Russian shoes, you don't want NATO any closer to you than possibly they can right and so granted that but to go about it in this way i mean obviously is uh the only way he feels he can't accomplish the buffer that he's looking for and he's looking for a buffer you think it's really

that i mean with uh with crimea it's because they have uh they have the military base there is that isn't that what the reason was well yeah well they just naval base right so because they have a military base there. Isn't that what the reason was? Well, yeah. Naval base. Right. So now they have all of what they didn't have as far as naval infrastructure. And of course, listen, all you have to do is pull up a map of the pipelines

leaving Russia and it makes complete sense of everything that's going on as well. I mean, at the end of the day, that's what it's all about. Ukraine, the pipelines running through Ukraine. Oh, yeah, one of the biggest. So you have another one going through Belarus. And like I told you, Alexander Lukashenko was such a big thorn.

Now that thorn's gone. And at the end of the day, this is the only way he truly can stay equal with NATO. It's through the resources that they're all dependent on. So he has a plan for the Nordstrom deal, or else he wouldn't be doing this either. So Crimea is basically a way to get oil out of Russia. Yeah, well, it gives you the ports, but it also gave you now a southern route of attack. Yeah. And it's a phenomenal position for a world war.

Crimea and the Baltic. Is that the Baltic Sea? Black Sea. Black Sea. Oh, my gosh. What an amazing position. They're only warm water port. Right.

Right. Yeah. So they went when with NATO moving in on Ukraine. And this is one of the big issues pertaining to the Euro. My dad movement Yanukovych being ousted Ukraine trying to join NATO or align with the European Union, whatever it was, Russia's thinking we'll lose Crimea and we need that access. So they said, we're going to take it now or forever hold our peace. So then a referendum was held in Crimea and they all voted to join Russia. Oh, yeah. There you go.

That's simple. I mean, and that's the thing. So if Zelensky wasn't there, we wouldn't be going through this because he is clearly pro-West. He is looking to get into NATO. NATO is not really that interested because they understand the consequences. And being realistic, they understand he does need a buffer. I mean, both sides understand that but if if like the former president there in ukraine if he would have been russian-leaning it just we wouldn't be looking at wasn't yanukovych russian-leaning yes and then he fled to russia after he got out yes so what people got to

understand is um when we have these conversations it's always from an american perspective yeah the russian perspective is more that the u.s is orchestrating an ousting of Yanukovych to put in pro-Western leaders. They do the same thing with Syria. I'd say it's probably half true. You got it. You got it. Absolutely. Why wouldn't we? Well, you got to cut through the propaganda and then figure out what's really going on. And the view of a lot of these people is that the protests in Ukraine were supported by the West to try and get rid of a guy who was more favorable towards Russia, or at the very least was kind of playing that game where he was like, what are you going to give me? What are you going to give me? You know? Oh, absolutely. We do it all over the world. We've

been doing it forever. I mean, every side does this. It is kind of funny though, that now Russia is playing this game and America, you know, Joe Biden's like, how dare you? And Putin's probably going like, bro, he's like, you've been playing this game well longer than I have. You know, now I do it, you get mad about it. Well, yeah, we do, I guess. So it's tough. You know, what moral pedestal

does the United States have to stand on when Russia's playing the same game other than we are powerful and we can tell you not to do it? No, it's very difficult. And again, honestly, I'm no fan of this current administration, right? I mean, as an organization, we're apolitical because we deal with threats. We don't deal with who's causing the threat, right? There has to be a realization of that. But if you're looking to analyze this thing you can't take the past actions um and allow it to warp you to not see something for what it is so i agree the whole

thing about the border but it really doesn't have anything to do with the truth of why we shouldn't not uh not be in nato and why there isn't a reason for us to at least be making sure that this doesn't spread. I think you made a great point, though. The southern border policy is to be weak. That is it. It is by design. So when people are coming out and they're being like, why aren't we defending our own borders? It's like, well, that's the opposite of what they want.

Right. They absolutely don't want it, right? That's a proven fact now. Yeah. want right they absolutely don't want it right that that's a proven fact now yeah well that just says to me that i think you know uh ian's talking about this this global what do you call it like liberal economic order liberal economic order i guess some people call it the davos group or the great reset of the world economic forum 1946 is when they formed the liberal economic order right after world war ii when you have when you have an administration that uh tells canada

you know by the administration hey use emergency powers crack down to an extreme degree and they do when you have an administration that says our policy is for the southern u.s border to be just completely open and then we're going to go defend and worry about russia and ukraine yeah it just sends a hard signal i understand why we care you. You know, we don't want things spiraling out of control. But it certainly just seems like Biden's priority is not America. No, right. So it's frustrating, right? But I guess, you know, I guess I would just say don't become so jaded that you don't.

You simply because you don't like what's going on in the border, you don't realize the importance of Ukraine. That's all I'm saying. Keep it. Keep one separate from the other because they are two separate things. And while one may really frustrate you and don't underestimate the importance of what's going on there. I wonder though, just one last thought on all of this. What's the probability you think this could spiral into a greater conflict beyond just this small this region the possibility definitely exists i don't think that would be the plan in the immediate um but i don't think it's ever the plan right well

the plan is you know and has been take crimea subjugate Belarus, get portions of Ukraine. He's clearly had this plan, been working on it for a little while. It's all coming to fruition because there is no, there is really nothing we can do but to try to keep it from spiraling, right? If he wants it, he can take it. No one's saying otherwise. The Ukrainian forces cannot stop the initial assault. Now, they can become partisans and turn this into a guerrilla-type warfare. True. And that's more probably what he doesn't want than anything.

He wants to topple this government, though. He wants Zelensky out. And he'll do that by any means. And the fact is, has he calculated right or hasn't he? I'll say I see two potentials. When we look back at what Germany did with, as again, to reference what Ian said, the Sudetenlands, and the appeasement, that was only the war that broke out was one potential of what could have happened. And we look back on history and we say, look at what Germany did. It led to war. Therefore, these things lead to war. It's not necessarily true. That time it did. In this instance, we could sit back and just appease and try and placate, come out and say, peace in our

time, whatever nonsense. And maybe Vladimir Putin will take the Donbass region and just stop. There's no guarantee that actually turns into one or three. But I will add it is a variable that could lead to that point. It is a moment in time that could lead to a very similar circumstance. It's hard to know if it will, though. And what do you do? Do we as Americans say we can't allow Russia to – they've used this strategy over and over again. I guess they used it in what, with Georgia?

They played this game. They're doing it with Crimea. If we sit back and it's five, ten years later and now a third of Ukraine is under Russian control as a satellite state, do we just let that keep happening until the Baltic states are you know, are now just under the boot of Russia. Do we intervene? What happens if we don't? What happens if Lithuania, Belarus or any of these other countries, Poland loses their mind saying like, we are not going to allow that because they certainly don't like what the Soviet Union was all about.

What happens if that just breaks out into a war in Europe? We stay out of it saying we don't want to be involved. China moves on Taiwan. Now there's fighting in the Pacific. There's fighting in Eastern Europe. The U.S. begins doing weapons deals with European countries. And then China says you are funding our enemies and then bombs Pearl Harbor. Oh, yeah, we could talk for a long time on how far.

Yes. How the same play out. Oh, absolutely. And the – You know what they would say? They would – we talk about how between World War I and World War II, it was one war with a 20-year armistice or something like that. That was just reignited from the same grievances. You could argue that this is a remnant of the same – of the end of World War II.

The difference would be China wouldn't bomb Pearl Harbor, although they might. They would bomb San Francisco, New York, Washington, D.C., Dallas, Fort Worth. They would bomb Kansas City. They'd bomb Seattle. All at once. It would all happen in a day, in an hour. So that is why we don't want. I use bombing of Pearl Harbor not in a literal sense, but to make a point about the similarities

between World War II and what we're seeing here. I'm not so sure China – how many nukes do they have, like 50? They don't have that many, do they? No, they've got plenty. Plenty enough. You only need one, right? Well, right. They have nuclear submarines off the west coast.

There's the most dangerous part, right? Russia's got more than they could possibly use. Same thing with us. I was in nukes for five years. We had 12 Russian. I was stationed in Germany. We had 12 nuclear missiles pointed at Russia 24-7. Wow.

12 that you knew of. Yeah. So what we did was we rotated. We rotated. One battalion does it for 30 days because it's around the clock. If you're in the shower and the alarm goes off, you have 30 seconds to make it to the gate and get those missiles launched because our life expectancy was 30 seconds. Around what year was this?

So that would have been 89. These were Persian II missiles. So they were short range. They come within 10 meters of their target. And you're talking about a nuke. You don't have to come that close, right? But it was low yield. They all blow up in the air. No, these were made to hit

targets. Interesting. And so, now we saw two treaty, we did away with them. And that was for everybody to back down, right? Because we're getting towards the end of the Cold War. Let's not have so many of these just sitting there active, ready to go.

And so those were done away with. So basically my MOS was no longer, and that's when I switched to the military intelligence. Was it under Trump the START treaty basically fell apart? Yeah. Denuclearization started to – Well, it's because everybody else never follows it, right? I mean Russia breaks it all the time. Iran has broken it all the time.

That's what gets so frustrating. Although you have to sit down at the table. You have to do it. But it never really solves. I think weapons, look with the Manhattan Project you had this decentralization, compartmentalization. People didn't know what was being done until after a bunch of bombs fell and all of a sudden everyone figured out what America had done. And the decades after that, the nuclear weapons we have today are about 1,000 to 1,250 times more powerful than the bombs we used in World War II.

Isn't that something? One ICBM, a MIRV, a Multiple Independently Targeted Reentry Vehicle carrying 10 to 12 warheads peppers the eastern seaboard. You don't need 15 nukes. No, you don't. You need 10 warheads in one ICBM. And then it goes up into the stratosphere and just goes – and they all just go – wipe out cities. I mean these things are massively powerful.

Not to mention the latest developments – and this is – I think this was actually like seven years ago. I was researching this in gravity bomb technology, which is bombs we used in world war ii were gravity bombs we drop them from planes we don't launch them or anything we've compressed those down really really small megaton bombs so they're they're very small and and comparably as powerful the weapons that we know about scary i mean think about nuclear, yeah. I haven't looked into it, but what are the actual artillery pieces that can launch nukes? Load a warhead and a howitzer? You're right. There's different versions of what can do what.

But just the idea that these types of capabilities exist is why we don't use them. Because in the end, nobody wants to really blow up the planet. So it has worked in deterring. It's not going to stop everything, but it has worked in deterring. I guess it partly makes me think like, why if China invades Taiwan, no one is going to try and stop it. If Russia takes Crimea or Belarus,

no one's going to stop it. If America takes Mexico, no one's going to stop it because no one wants these conquering empires to fire their nukes. Taiwan is very sensitive because they make 63% of all the chips that we are already short of.

63% if I'm accurate. That's huge. Is it the kind of thing where like it's better that no one has it than China has it? Well, if they dominate that market, right? So you see the pictures of I saw one this week where Ford Broncos are piling up in the parking lot again because the shortage of i saw one this week where ford broncos are piling up in the parking lot again because uh the shortage of chips and that's because we don't produce them here which we're trying to rectify right there's a lot of things we're trying to rectify because we've seen our our weakness through covid and how much control china has over these things add in taiwan to that and it just that it would cripple technology

yeah so yeah it's very important we would do something about is it a kind of thing where we would like scorched earth the place and be like hey you can't take this from us you can have you can have nothing and none of us get it well no we would i would imagine we would literally actively try to stop them right and and that's going to have to do with all naval power because, you know, that's where you send the seven fleets, right? That's where we're going to have to start because China has slowly been building those islands to claim that entire region, but also to give them a place to launch something militarily. Building islands is a smart move. Very smart.

And so that means, you know, the Marines would have a tough job, but that's what they'd have to clear. They'd surround Taiwan and blockade the island, I would imagine, the Chinese. So you think there'd be sea battles? No, there'd be an air foot right in the air on the sea because we don't have troops on the ground. Yeah, if China and the United States ever fight each other,

that's like the beginning of total war, I think. Limited war is when, like, the Taiwanese forces are fighting the Belarusian forces, and they're both funded by one side or the other. The Americans are funding the Taiwanese, and the Chinese are funding the Taiwanese. Yeah, so fortunately, right, for us, there's a great distance between us and China, us and Russia other than Alaska, right, because all you have there is the Bering Sea. But, I mean, that's what's kept the peace, right, and that's been our beauty. We've had Canada and we've had Mexico.

There's no threat there, right, militarily. We have a sweet spot right here. So it's not easy to get to us. Therefore, we have to project power. That's why we make our Navy what it is. And that helps us to control the situation until you can actually then get the rest of what's needed, boots on the ground, the supplies that go into all that. And, again, that's why not being a part of NATO would not be smart.

I want to make another point, too, especially as we're talking about nuclear weapons. America is – the United States, great geography in terms of war just because we've got both coasts. We've got the interstate highway system, which is designed for this. The mountains are great for it. We've got the mountains. Seriously. And then I was thinking about – but what if – we're talking about nuclear weapons. Ian, you were mentioning China. would just wipe out all these cities. I tell you this.

Even if the U.S. got nuked to kingdom come by, you know, dozens of warheads, they would still not be able, no one would be able to conquer this country for one reason. The sheer amount of guns that exist here, even after we've been nuked, you ain't coming in. And I'm thinking about that video game Fallout, which I love. Fallout 3. that exist here, even after we've been nuked, you ain't coming in. And I'm thinking about that video game Fallout, which I love, Fallout 3. And I'm imagining like in this game, in the Fallout series, you're finding guns and bullets everywhere. And I'm like, actually, it makes sense. But what if the game took place in China or in Australia that you'd find none? So thinking about that, if nuclear war really broke out, there's a quote from Einstein.

I know not what weapons World War III will be fought with, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. And I'm like, I don't know. I think World War IV would just be the United States armed to the teeth with all of the insane amount of guns they have, and then they would just conquer everybody. It's the disease that I'm concerned. Like the Native Americans, 95% of them were wiped out by smallpox when the settlers came over. Numbers I've heard, I could see like nuclear war

and then just disease kills. All these people with their guns that just starve and run out of water and then get sick and die and then someone comes in to clean it up. So we're strong enough now, right? But we used to live in the United States of America. We to live in the United States of America.

We now live in the divided states of America. And herein will be our Achilles heel. Because politically and culturally, there does not seem to be a path back to normalcy where we could get five individuals, six into this room and speak like rational adults. Right. The conversation is no longer happening. And I don't I don't know how we turn that corner because it's just we just seen it with Canada. We would never would have guessed. Right.

That it would have gone to that extreme. And the problem is, now this is happening at the level of our children because of the foolishness in schools. And listen, I sort of understand the argument, but let me make one thing personally clear. No one on the face of the planet is going to make me feel guilty for being born. I did not choose where, when, and to whom. I had nothing to say in that matter.

But people on the other side of this, politically and culturally, are not going to understand that language that you're speaking. The languages are so different. So you juxtapose at this point like you really can't communicate. That's part of the divide. No, and I get that. Believe me. So I'm not going to go out and try to do no harm to anybody else, but no one will make me feel guilty for being me. But what happens when they show up to your neighborhood with guns? What happens when they're marching through your street's arm telling you you can't drive your car through here anymore, and they point rifles at you?

This is the problem. This is what we're seeing up in portland and it just culminated in a very serious incident over the weekend where a guy is critically injured for uh four others i think uh three other so there's a total of five people were shot one died the uh the guy in conflict with antifa was critically injured and three other antifa were were seriously injured, put in the hospital. I believe they were arrested in the ER. You know, we had, I know I've been mentioning it quite a bit in the past few episodes, but I think it's important. We had Stephen Marsh, he wrote this book, we have it up there on the wall, The Next Civil War. He said this country is a multicultural democracy and a constitutional republic inside at the same time and they can't

coexist. He said said you know you mentioned just now when how do we turn that corner he said when will you something effective when will you realize you in this country like what's happening my view is you know what i told him was as a canadian you love your socialized health care okay you give that up you abolish that we go private we have peace and he said point taken Based on what you were saying about people making you feel guilty for being born, if someone comes up to me, these Democrats out of California, they wanted to repeal the civil rights language from their constitution. The language that says you cannot discriminate on the basis of race, gender, identity, etc.

They said, we want that gone. We want that right. I say, no. No compromise. So how do we don't? So anyway, to kind of bring this back to where we were with war and nuclear weapons and all that stuff, I think our Achilles heel is exactly the right point. When Jesse Kelly today, he's a funny guy.

He tweeted that, I mean, seriously, but he made a good point. He said, we need a national divorce because Democrat voters are polled showing they support what Trudeau was doing with his authoritarianism. And the scary thing is I don't think he's wrong, but I think if he's right and we do have a national divorce, Russia walks all over Eastern Europe, takes what it wants. China takes Taiwan. They both expand exponentially. And that's it.

We now, as Americans, live under heavy trade restrictions and under the boot of these, mostly China. It wouldn't be the United States necessarily because who knows what would happen to this country. But it's not just going to be fighting here. It's going to be us being subjugated by oppressive forces from China, from the Communist Party, from their allies, from Russia, when it comes to trade especially. No, without a doubt. And again, that's why our strength, right? We've lost our strength by not being the United States of America. And I mean, that's why Fortitude Ranch exists.

This is why we're trying to have 12 ranches across the country so that hopefully you wouldn't have to drive any more than one gas tank. But you've played Fallout. Oh, yeah. Video game. How amazing would it be that if in the real world they weren't vaults, they were Fortitude ranches? There you go. And there's 500 of them or whatever. You guys become this major conglomerate corporation.

Everybody lines up. You do these spiffy 50s style TV ads. Come sign up for Fortitude. You got to go somewhere when the bombs drop, right? Yeah. Come on down. As funny as that is, that'd be great on that game you're working on, right? Working Fortitude tokens instead of caps.

Bottle caps. Yeah, instead of bottle caps, right? You guys should have a bunch of bottle caps that'd be funny yeah that really is a bit i know when you when people show up to sign up for the ranch be like here's what we used to trade see how many of them get the reference i know i wonder if they would i mean considering they're familiar with you know survival camps or fortitude they might understand the joke yeah and you know our membership um has has changed over the years it used to be more of the along the hardcore prepper type uh but once covet hit uh things started to change but once civil

unrest hit that changed everything people uh man they take everything for granted absolutely the normalcy bias is what really really gets me the optimism bias and the normalcy bias is what really, really gets me. The optimism bias and the normalcy bias. Optimism meaning that people think bad things won't happen, and normalcy, they think things can't change. But boy, can they change, and they can change fast. That's why I point out the first civil war in the United States, nobody thought it was going to happen. Because everybody just thinks...

World War I, too. That just happened so fast all of a sudden. One day the world was at peace, the next day a got a guy got assassinated and we try to be rational about it right last time i was on it was about a year ago you asked me what you thought the percentage was of you know seeing some real violence as we turned the corner of the election i said five percent and you're kind of surprised um that i would say five percent but as you saw see the things weren't in place was it because I thought it would be higher or lower? Higher. I thought it would be higher?

Yeah. And especially, right, because I'm the Fortitude Ranch guy, so it would seem like – You've got an economic incentive to tell everybody 100% the world's going to be calm. Run now. Right. So we don't play the fear game. I mean, that's not what it's about, right? And, again, so as an organization, we stay apolitical so that we could really try to have the right data we never activated for covid we did activate and that's

how you actually invited me to the show for the election and that was a given opportunity for all the new members basically to come bring their supplies and get to know them right it was basically a let's sit and watch the elections kind of get together we really weren't thinking that it was going to be and that's another reason why you thought it would probably be higher because we activated for the first time in existence but i also had i think you guys got to activate this november oh well so now here's the thing right we haven't even gotten into that so there's no no path, it seems like, going forward. And now things are going to get lonier.

You thought Trump point one was something? Wait for Trump point two. Let me pull up this story, which can kick off this bigger conversation on the conflict in the U.S. because this is actually kind of weird. It's tragic. It's creepy. It's weird. We have this from OPB. Alleged killer in Portland's Normandale Park protest shooting has been identified.

They're saying it's a man named Benjamin Jeffrey Smith. He's being identified as a local furry that Antifa claims is a Nazi because furries have a known Nazi problem. It's very, very strange that this is the story that's coming out. But just in reference to this, this story, they flat out say Smith's identity was first reported by anti-fascist researchers and the Oregonian Oregon Live news outlet. The information we're getting about the shooting is coming from extremists. How can you trust it? Of course, they're taking quotes from me and they're screaming that I'm lying and all this stuff. And Andy, no, is lying. I don't care what these, you know, Twitter Antifa people think, because I think they're psychotic, despotic, fascist extremists. When they say that about me, I know they're lying because I know they don't really believe that we

do a show. Like if you look at all the online forums, they refer to me as like a libertarian centrist. You know, I flat out say, leave me alone. I want to, I want to have nothing to do. I get away from the cities. There's no way these people who are in Portland, who are going around with guns, pointing them at pointing at people, threatening people, smashing property, genuinely believe the people running away are the fascists. There's, there's no way they know they're lying. They know that. So I don't care what they think, but this is the, the, the But this is the nature of the escalation we've seen. So we had you on just before the election in 2020 because Fortitude Ranch activated. And there was a bunch of stories coming out saying like, you know, survival camp activates, warns their members or whatever.

There's a potential for violence. You said it was around 5%. When I talk to people, they have such a normalcy or optimism bias. It can't happen here. I don't know how to explain to the people who don't want to believe it. Maybe there are people who just don't want to hear it. It's not about they don't believe it. They do believe it, but they're just like, please, no, please, no. Go away. If I close my eyes and cover my ears, close my eyes, it'll just stop. It'll stop. But it's coming. And I think people need to pay

attention to this because we're at the point now where there's a group of Antifa marching through the street, armed, telling people where they can and can't drive. In the past, not even that long ago, a guy was in his truck and they threatened him and he pulled a gun. So they pulled him out of his truck and they beat him. We've seen Aaron Danielson in Portland. He was shot twice in the chest and killed. Then Bill Barr's DOJ hunted down this guy, Michael Reinhold, and they say he got into a shit with him. They killed him. These Antifa people view that as Trump's administration, the MAGA right, the populists engaging in retribution. To me, it does sound a lot like retribution. It doesn't matter though. It doesn't matter which side you're on. It doesn't matter if you think you're right.

It's just at a certain point, you need to wake up to realize this stuff is happening. It's happening with increasing frequency. And, you know, so to escalate this to where we're going now, the elections are coming up midterms. The Democrats lose power in the House and in the Senate, then Republicans are going to go off the wall. I don't believe most Republicans will go off the wall. I believe the Trump MAGA America first types are going to be like revenge and retribution. And if people go out and vote in the primaries and get in real politicians, not establishment crony, bad idea or no idea, Republicans, I guess rhinos, if actual new incumbents come in, I'm sorry,

new candidates push out the incumbents, we might actually see some real action from the Republican Party. But then you're going to see Antifa losing their minds. Then you're going to be getting into 2023, which is presidential primary season, with Donald Trump coming out saying, we will win. Antifa is going to go crazy. And then you have 2024, an election year, and then Donald Trump wins. So then what happens? Trump 2.0. Madness. Other madness.

So what I'm wondering is what level can you take it to next? Because it was already an existential threat, right? Aliens. So where else do you go? I mentioned this before we started going on air, right? Aliens. So where else do you go? I mentioned this before we started going on air, right? Maybe that's when we see the aliens come in and calm all this down. Because honestly I don't know where you can go other than more of the I'm speaking verbiage, right? Because the way they explained it last time

and interesting enough, Putin even used that word as he explained what was going on, trying existential threat. Existential threat. Yes. And he used that word. It's interesting how it always gets picked up and passed around and used in so many circumstances. Right. It becomes the phrase of the day. So I just don't know how much more nuttier

or how the language can get any more over the top than they'll find a way, right? Because they truly believe that it's the worst possible thing that can happen. I remember back when he was elected and the girlfriend that I was with at the time, and she lost her mind. I said, listen, you know how many presidents,

administrations I've lived through so far in my lifetime? They come and they go. They come and they go. And the world doesn't end. It's everybody who doesn't come and go in washington that we're really going to try to do something about the administrative state man any term limits yes and and then every people if you know if i get it it's so important to you if you haven't lived through a bunch of these but when i I was in school, I was literally taught the next thing coming our way was an ice age. Yeah.

That's what I was taught as a kid. I believed it. I thought the next great thing that happened to mankind was an ice age. And I've lived through all the others about this. There's a great video.

I don't know if I can pull it up, but I think it's Carl Sagan talking about the global cooling. And he's like, scientists believe a great ice age could be coming. And it was like from the 70s. And then science changes, right? Oh, absolutely. So people panic for a lot of different reasons.

I think the issue we're facing now is there was a point at which american society hard forked split into two distinct entities for a while they were close enough together where it was an argument saying like what are you doing over there we're talking over here now it's so far divided it's just i think i figured out we're yelling across the chasm i was thinking about a lot about this there's there's multiple ways to think and to problem solve and to come to conclusions one of them is the scientific way to do it which is you acquire evidence over time. And that once you get enough evidence, you can confidently say, this is what I believe is happening. Then there's warfare, where you have no information about what the hell is happening.

You know that there's artillery firing from over there and there's a machine gun nest. Now you have to make a decision. And people are in the war mind state. They're afraid. They're terrified, probably by design. So they're making these split second decisions without information and acting like these are like solid scientific ways to look at things. And they're not. You're half. I think you're half right. I think they're lacking information.

I think they're in a war mind, but I think it's by choice. We have the story from Axios. Democrats tune out national news during Biden era. Look at this. Democrats just spike straight down. This is exactly the problem I've talked about with, you know, the Obama activists, the I'm sorry, the anti-war activists voting for Obama. The moment their guy gets in, they turn off. So now what's happening is Democrats are no longer paying attention to news. They're now below Republicans, but they're still acting on politics. They're still engaging in conflicts. They're still pushing and they're still active.

They're just willfully ignorant now. I think like what you said, man, people feel like this is going to – there's too much emphasis being placed on the political candidate. To be afraid or to have total faith that your candidate is going to save the situation is ridiculous. We found that out with Obama turning his back on people. And to think that this candidate is going to destroy the world is also ridiculous. The system is built around – I mean I understand an executive can be kind of crazy and can do stupid stuff. But we have plenty of safeguards.

No, exactly. And so we're definitely going to see. Right. So if everything seems to play out the way it looks because of the overreach in some of the ridiculousness of how COVID has been handled, you probably see, you know, the Democrats getting a good shellacking in the midterms. Now the backpedaling is starting. They understand they're losing the independents. People are really getting sick and tired of this.

So this is going to unravel to a certain degree. Then, like Tim said, so that just brings about BLM and Antifa now being in the streets more than what we've seen them over this past time. It intensifies and intensifies. And then who knows, it should come to some kind of crescendo for, you know, 2024 in the presidential elections. Well, you're familiar with the Strassau generational theory. Right. Yeah.

So by 2028 should be the end of the fourth turning. So don't be surprised if I believe we're in it for around, what, 20 years or so is when it starts kicking into high gear. And surprise, surprise, that's 2008. The start of this economic crisis, which escalates dramatically, causes... Look, I think the economic crisis really is a big precursor

to everything we're seeing. You get a young generation who can't find jobs. People my age getting out of college, all of a sudden, unable to work as dishwashers. Something I experienced. I remember I went to a small,

tiny hole-in-the-wall diner, and there was a guy in a suit applying to be a dishwasher for $10 an hour. And I'm like some scraggly dude in a beanie like, I was just looking for some side cash, man. This guy needs it more than I do. You get these young people who then say, why is my life so bad? And they blame the 1%. This drives them into this quest for meaning. Unable to do work. Unable to pursue their passions.

That escalates over 10 years with them getting into activism, turning news into activism, putting politics in every corner of every aspect of our lives. And now we're at this point today. So eight years after the crisis, you get Donald Trump, Donald Trump being a symptom. People are saying, we're tired of this. We want something to change. The other side, believing Trump was a fascist and literally Hitler, going insane. All of that has continued to escalate. I think Occupy Wall Street. You get the financial crisis, which leads us to Occupy Wall Street, which brings this critical race theory activism into the fray with all the activists in New York who then

engage in violent tactics, black bloc tactics. It escalates. I suppose you could even go back further than that and figure out where all this stuff started, when they, you know, was a glass eagle gets repealed or whatever, and then how this all begins. But I think the big spark, like something broke 2008. Then what? 2020. The end of this period of strife.

A hard time, which is economic crisis, which is political crisis, which is street violence. The night is always darkest before the dawn. But 2024, I think is going to be bad. I think this year is going to get bad. Already the activism is getting nuts. This story is crazy. I think 2023 is going to get bad. I think 2024 will be worse because Trump will end up as the Republican nominee. What are the Democrats going to do? Biden? I have no idea.

2025, Donald Trump is inaugurated. What do you think January 20th, 2025 is going to look like in D.C.? You think January 6th is bad? Wait till January 20th, 2025 for the second inauguration of Donald Trump. I got to say, I think there's no way Trump is going to even have a chance of being president. I'll go on record now. I could be totally wrong. Maybe I'll eat my words.

I didn't think he was going to win last time either with Hillary Clinton. I was shocked. But it's like the same kind of surprise attack thing in military. You don't do it twice. They're ready for it now. It's going to be total media. What do they call it? What did the Time magazine article call it?

The shadow campaign to save the election. Yeah, the total media fortification of their candidate. But I think that's a key factor here. Over the past six years, the corporate press has lost a lot of credibility, right? Even with normies? With me, they have for sure. Oh, yeah, but you've always kind of been dialed into it. I'm wondering if like the average person, well, it seems like even the Democrats are kind of tuning out.

Are they going to crank up their viewing again when it looks like Trump is going to win a second term? Or has the corporate press actually lost some of the credibility that it used to have? I don't know. It seems to me like it's crumbled quite a bit. Well, it's going to really hinge on who's going to be the candidate also democratically, right? I mean – Well, let me – Yeah.

That's going to play into Trump will win prospect so that that's that's gonna be huge i'm gonna pull up this story uh this is from the daily wire majority of democrats back trudeau's crackdown freezing bank account of truckers there's something really important here ian was just saying that he doesn't think donald trump could win the presidency because they're going to be ready for him, right? Yeah. So using the same strategy twice. The previous context, for those that may have missed it, we're talking about the freedom convoy in Canada. We're talking about how Trudeau cracks down.

Then the U.S. is playing this convoy. And Ian, you were saying that they're going to be ready for the U.S. truckers. So they can't use the same strategy. They're going to be ready for Donald Trump. He can't use the same strategy. But there's one thing that I think does that you may overlook in this regard. What if instead of 1,000 or 500 trucks coming to DC, like in Canada, it was 50,000? Now, it was reported there was 50,000 truckers protesting.

I don't think there was that many trucks. I think that was probably misreported. But let's say that DC does plan for this. And they say, we're going to handle it. many trucks. I think that was probably misreported. But let's say that D.C. does plan for this and they say, we're going to handle it. 500 trucks, no problem. But then 50,000 trucks from every angle come in. You can't handle that. There's no planning for that. That would be a different plan. So let me show you this. In the story about Democrat support for Trudeau, they say the poll shows 55% of general election voters disapprove

of Trudeau's handling of the protesters. 35% approve. That is to say the majority of people don't like the draconian powers. Take a look at this. Democrats, 65% approval. Republicans, 87% disapproval. And independents, 74% disapproval. Republicans, 87% disapproval and independents, 74% disapproval. That is to say, Republicans say no to Trudeau. Unaffiliated voters say no to Trudeau. It is only the Democrat base that about two thirds support what Trudeau is doing with these draconian powers. This, this, these metrics are reflected in basically everything.

When we pull up civics polling data, is the economy good? Independent voters, two to one, say no. Republicans, 10 to one, say no. Democrats, two to one, say it's great. Now, how is that possible? It's an inversion. The fact is, independent voters and Republicans, the majority of people in this country, do not live in the crackpot cult reality that the Democrats live in. So if Donald Trump does run again, they can plan any shadow campaign or whatever fortification they want. But when 10 times as many people are storming through the gates, no amount of planning will stop that man. Yeah, the independence there is really important because that's your proxy, right? I mean, those are the people that aren't really affiliated.

I mean, if they're siding with Republicans, I mean, not even siding with them, but if that's the way they're perceiving reality. But all these represent the chasm, right? The chasm that we're talking about. We kind of forked at a certain point culturally in this country, and the chasm is just so great. You might try to holler at somebody way over there. It's just like, what's the point? I mean, they're not even going to understand the language that i'm speaking right now you know that's scary but but to your point like i don't know how we're going to remedy that cultural problem that we're

experiencing the chasm is just too wide i think that that's that's making me think of that mentality that combat mentality versus the scientific mentality and so many people are in combat mentality that if you try and speak to them scientifically with like facts and evidence they don't get it. It's too big of a deal for them to think about. They got to act now. It's like life or death to these people. So if you can understand that before you start communicating with them,

and for them it's a big deal. Maybe for you it's not. I mean, obviously, I'm not freaked out by this stuff. But if you understand, it's the same with talking with a kid too. If you understand why something's such a big deal to them, it's a lot easier to communicate with them about it. Yeah, rapport building is the first strategy in persuasion. Yes. So if you approach someone as an enemy or as an other, they are less likely to trust you.

They fear you. So if you're trying to actively build bridges in the political conflict, you have to approach your political enemies or your political rivals as one of them. It's a very difficult thing to do. I got to throw it to Daryl Davis, though, and say, I think we're beyond that, unfortunately. You can certainly try. I'm not saying never, you know, give up. But that story about Daryl Davis, he's the guy who de-radicalized those Klan members. A black jazz musician de-radicalizes Klan members. But when he tried to talk with Antifa outside of the event we booked him for, they wouldn't talk to him. Yeah, he directly confronted the mob, and that's a hard – that's a big ask. I've never successfully confronted a mob and come out the winner.

But confront maybe is the wrong word. He said, I want to talk to them. He walked across the street, and they started yelling at him. maybe is the wrong word he just said i dressed he said i want to talk to them yeah he walked across the street and they started yelling at him and they called him a nazi and other you know white supremacist and he was like i just want to talk guys and they wouldn't do it something similar might have happened though if he was trying to address like a clan rally no he's done that he's done but but it started at the individual level right it was just like one guy and then another guy showed up to clan rallies he went tolan rallies and walked up to people and talked to them. And he posted about how he never experienced

what he did with Antifa. When he went to Klan rallies, they were like, what's this guy doing here? And he said, you know, he started talking to people and they started talking with him and they told him all of their racist ideas. And he said, okay, just wondering what you were thinking. And then after a long enough period of time, they realized they were wrong. And their racist ideas weren't correct. With Antifa, he walks up and they scream at him. They wouldn't even let him talk. Yeah, they want to fight.

They're there to fight. So it's a more poisonous ideology than racism even. Oh, I certainly think so. You must be. I think the issue with racism is that it's incorrect and can lead people towards dangerous policy and violence. The far left extremism is inherently on step one of the hopscotch is be extreme and destroy. Racism is you don't like people for stupid reasons. It escalates from there.

Antifa on the far left starts with violent revolution. I hate that burn it all down mentality. It's so stupid. Why would you ever destroy what we've created before you have a new thing to do? What the? It's a 12-year-old mentality. Yeah, it's so very short-sighted. Immature, right?

So it's extremely immature. And it's extremely short-sighted. And so now, like I said, no one's going to make me feel guilty for being born. I wouldn't have chose my parents. Love them. Take a bunch of 10-year-olds. Take 30 10-year-olds and put them in charge of an office building and see what happens. This is what's happening right now.

Good times make weak men. We're in the fourth turning. We're in the period of weak men who have made hard times. Any men figuratively because women are involved. I'm thinking scorched earth now because that's a military tactic. So if these people really are in combat mind state, then the scorched earth tactic is on the table. Like if someone's invading your city and you can't defend it properly, you burn the entire city to the ground and retreat so that when they get there, they don't have a city to pillage. And so maybe that's what these people are doing.

I think what you see with Antifa— I don't think it's even thought through that far. It's a rudimentary plan. It's there. Antifa and Portland, everything they do serves their purpose, their goal, right? If they go out in the streets with guns and say, do as you're told, and you do, they win. If you resist them and there's chaos and fighting, you're destroying the system, they win. It's what they want from the ashes of the

old, they shall build a new. It's what they said during Occupy Wall Street. I was told during Occupy, they said, the organizer said, we want to flip the pyramid over. And I said, how would that make sense? If you flip the pyramid over, you have one brick on the bottom? No. The pyramid crumbles and forms a crappy or crumbly pyramid. And they're like, right. And we're on the bottom now. And when you flip it over and the bricks tumble down, we'll be the ones on top. That was their view. Their view was not to create a better world where the working class were all equal and wealthy. It was that if you flip the pyramid over, some of the poor people will take control and be in charge.

The rest are going to fall down the side of the pyramid and the avalanche of rocks and get crushed. That's right. We're definitely in payback mode, right? This is... Payback for what? For who? The Federal Reserve.

The idea of how they've been wronged and why we are so systematically racist and this and that. Fascist. Yes. And so if you're in payback mode, then you're not being rational and you'll get these type of ideas. And it seems

self-fulfilling. Again, but it's so emotionally based. Yeah. People that are willing to die for their cause are very dangerous. Yes. But these people also have no sense of history. They don't know what happened in Cuba or either that or they're ignorant about it. I was just so funny. I was just listening the other day to an interview with Andy Garcia, the actor, and I had no idea he was from Cuba. And his family fled from there when he was five and a half years old. And the interviewer was asking him, he was just like, so what was that like? You fled from Cuba?

I mean, what was going on? And the way that he describes Cuba that he fled from is just like hair raising. He was just like, well, you know, we were told there were going to be public schools and the revolution was going to bring everybody happiness. And the public schools weren't really schools. They were just indoctrination camps and all the children you know there was no god and they praised jake wavara and they praised fidel and he's just like like point by point laying out exactly what happened even when he went back in the 90s and they he was just like i just

wanted to visit my homeland and they turned it into this propaganda campaign saying that i you know was supported the revolution and it was just it, it was really eyeopening hearing him talk about that when we're living in 2022. There's a clip that the left likes to put around, push, push out there where at the end of the Joe Rogan podcast with Twitter, the hot, the mic stayed on. So Joe is like, all right, everybody, that was great. And he stands up and it shows the Rogan symbol and you can still hear everything. And Vijayagaday of Twitter says, I want to follow up on that Antifa account. And I said, it's bit.ly slash Antifa tweet or something like that. And then she says, you know, what was this account or whatever? And I responded with, I don't want to give you information on specifics that you can go and ban people because I'm here

basically saying, I don't think you should be doing anything on my behest. They cut that part out and claim that Twitter colludes with the far right to ban Antifa and support fascists and everything. It is insane how people fall for this and believe it. And it's maddening and it's sad because there are people who will hear that clip and be like wow it must be true that's it that's the combat mentality i was i was talking to um a few uh good friends of the show and they mentioned dave rubin saying something stupid they were like oh but dave man he said that thing and i was like what did he say and

they're like he said something about i can't remember exactly what the quote was and then I said wow you actually were talking to him and he said this to you they're like no but we saw it on Twitter and I was like was he quoting someone else and they're like I don't know it was a short clip some activist posted and I was like so why do you believe it so so Dave Rubin could have been quoting someone else and someone took a clip of this and claimed he said it. Why would you believe that? It's crazy that even people who are aware of the tactics of the machine still fall for it too. Yeah, I did train myself out of it with the Nick Sandman thing when he got confronted. I initially got angry and I was about to yell out.

That was the first time I kind of stopped and thought about maybe there's something more to this. But it wasn't like one day I just stopped freaking out about information. I had to learn. I'm still to this day. Stuff will appear, and I'm like, false flag. Remember, false flag. Remember, keep your mind open. Yeah.

Again, that's why I have no social platform whatsoever. I stay as far away from that as i can i mean obviously it wasn't part of my generation having a cell phone until i was 30 because they went around right my first one i had was in belarus and interestingly enough because it's such a small country it was awesome because they could put cell towers around everywhere and it was really good but so i didn't grow up with it wasn't part of it But I absolutely detest the fact that you can get so inundated and so caught up in it that it's not profitable. I try to be profitable with my time and my energy.

Yeah, I'll have such a good, I'll be in such a great state of mind. I'll be thinking about good stuff. And then sometimes I'll get on Twitter and I'm like, what the? This stuff is so negative. It's so niche. It's usually about like Biden or like about politics. And it's just because I follow a lot of people that come on the show and that's what we talk about. But it's like so niche.

It's not like reality as it is. It's just a part of like the game. I got to give you some advice, man. I'm triggering Tim right now. Look at who I follow. You can go on Twitter and pull up my account and look at who I follow. And so there's a good amount of activists. There's pundits.

There's left-wing and right-wing pundits. And mostly news organizations. What's happening to a lot of people is that they'll go on Twitter and they'll follow 300 far-left activists. So their whole worldview is filtered by the far-left. Or they'll go on and follow 300 right-wing pundits. And their whole worldview is filtered through right-wing pundits. I use my Twitter mostly as a tool.

I post nonsense. I often just post things that trigger people or whatever. I tweeted today – was it today? That Putin was scared of Trump. Boy, did the left go nuts on that one. But mostly who I'm following is like news sources, left and right. Some are politically active. Some aren't. A lot of journalists.

You'll see in my following account like some professors and some journalists. My worldview is not crafted by partisans. It is – I have a balanced – because I want to see what the left is saying. Sure. No. For what you do, it makes total sense. But what we're I want to see what the left is saying. Sure, no, for what you do, it makes total sense. But what we're getting is journalists only follow the left. Conservatives follow both.

So you'll tend to see conservatives understand the left. The left doesn't understand conservatives. That's why the Democrats support Trudeau and independent voters, Republicans don't,

probably because Democrats don't watch the news, have no idea what he's done. But if you went to the average Democrat voter and said, Trudeau seized the bank account of a single mother who works as a waitress because when the convoy was first just driving on the road, she gave 50 bucks,

they'd be like, well, that's crazy. But because they don't pay attention, they support authoritarianism. And therefore wouldn't believe you, right? Right. They'd say, so this is what my friends are telling me. They're like,

they say, like good friends of mine from back home, they say, when I try telling my parents, they say it's a conspiracy theory. And they're like, you know Tim. Like you've known him.

He used to hang out here. He's the one who's talking about it. I'm like, ah, he's wrong. I watch CNN. When I was in LA, I was such a closet leftist. I was just blatantly like, out here it's he's the one who's talking about like ah he's wrong i watch cnn there's i met when i was in la i was such a like a closet leftist i was just blatantly like socialism yeah i didn't know and there's this mentality of like leave me alone let me just live my life man i want the

government social services are nice because if i need food stamps like i'm with the actors and it's so close-minded and oblivious to live like that, to think that what you have in America is like the way things are. Like this is a result of military conquest. It's not a joke. And now there's problems that are arising because of that conquest. Also not a joke. So your luxury is tentative at best. Get your mind in the game.

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every member of the band Blind Melon in the music video For No Rain. I love that song. Do they all look like you or something? I think the lead singer. every member of the band Blind Melon in the music video For No Rain. I love that song. Yeah. What's up now? Do they all look like you or something? I think the lead singer. Yeah, he definitely does.

That's awesome. Awesome. All right, let's see. Joe Harshbarger says, Steve, please, please start a ranch in Nebraska. Wide open spaces in the land of the good life. Absolutely. Listen, we'd love to build 10, 15 more.

Very expensive to do. And this is why we're constantly looking for investors, especially if you have a particular region in mind, because that so speeds up the process to be able to do something like that. Kind of like franchising? Well, I mean, it'd still be part of Fortitude Ranch, but our Texas one exists because somebody donated the land and had the ability to help financially

because you've seen it out in West Virginia. I mean, it takes like a million dollars to do it right. And so we're constantly, it's part of what I do as COO, reach out looking for investors. Love to do it. Do you have any plans for community building exercises and events or anything like that yeah we have training coming up in may um so this will be survival training uh as we go through and and try to help prepare our members we do want to do it for non-members as well, for those who would like to do that for a fee.

We certainly want to help our members specifically, but we do want to branch out. And this is part, again, like I was mentioning with survival housing, with the counseling and the ability to help with housing solutions. We know we can't get it. Not everybody's going to be able to join, right? So if you're looking to do something separately, that's what we're looking to help with. I'm just thinking how amazing it is. It's going to be like a nice, cool spring night.

You're going throughout the day. You're learning all these important survival skills, but you're hanging out. You're having a good time. Oh, and it really is. It's a great weekend. We go out to eat, right? So it starts on a Saturday at 8 o'clock.

We have some summer PowerPoint, right, to give you the instruction for the things you're going out to do, like if you're going to train at the ranch on the firing range. Yeah, firing range. Right? And then we do land navigation, show you how to read maps. We fired a Barrett M82 over at the ranch, 50 BMG. Yeah, that was fun. It wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be.

Well, it was amazing that you guys hit something because you didn't have a scope, right? No, we had iron sights. Right. Well, but not a scope. I mean, that's not easy to do. That's all I'm saying. Well, so for those that are interested, survival training, community building, hanging out with like-minded people and learning some skills. That sounds pretty fun, man.

So yeah, maybe you guys will get more up and running. Let's read some more Super Chats. All right. NeoJade says, Tim, you don't believe it's possible that Cabal is running things? What do you need? A Times article detailing exactly that? Ian natched it. All the chat when Ian said that was like 20.

But I'll clarify what I mean is, you know, I don't think that Biden walks into the Great Hall on some island with all these other leaders. And then they're like, they've got pictures of Epstein on the wall. And they're just like, you know, Klaus Schwab walks in and says, now you will all do as you are told. I think birds of a feather flock together. I think all of these world leaders meet in Davos. They meet at the UN or the G7, the G20. They all think similarly. They all hang out with each other. It's like if you go to a skate park and you see 10 skateboarders all from different parts of the city, they're going to be speaking the same language, using the same jargon, and wanting the same things. It doesn't mean it's organized.

It just means that they've effectively formed. That's what I mean. They all know that if it happens in your country, it can happen in my country. So they're like authoritative. What I mean is like, you know, there's a skateboarder from the north side, a skateboarder from the south side, a skateboarder from the east and west sides, and they're all at one skate park. They're saying the same words. Yo, dude just did a nollie flip crook, big spin out.

That was sick. And they all know what it means. Yo, build back better, bro. Exactly. They're all saying the same thing because when they go drink – so there's something called the journal list. It was where journalists were on message boards, private message boards with each other in New York. So what would happen is one journalist would post a story. They'd all see it.

And then all of a sudden, every outlet would publish the same story. It wasn't because there was a cabal intentionally trying to control things. It was because journalists were like, I'd like to hang out with journalists. Oh, in this situation. It was an emergent phenomenon. I believe there's a cabal that is literally trying to control things just so just so everyone's clear no i certainly think that's uh i don't know if they're succeeding or not but it seems like they are i think trying to the davos group wants to control things i think but but i don't think like when biden said build back better and when i heard

those words come out of his mouth i was like okay it's been it's been co-opted but boris johnson accused him of stealing it what the and And Biden's a plagiarist. Oh, yeah. What if he stole it? He did. From the World Economic Forum. Biden's a plagiarist, right? He apologized for plagiarizing.

He had to drop out of the 1988 presidential election because he got caught plagiarizing. So the simple solution is that Biden is a plagiarist. He was 88. And in Europe, in the EU, they all use the same. Look, I absolutely think Klaus Schwab has plans. I absolutely think he's publicly stated he wants to get people in these cabinets. I think he is a dangerous, evil individual. I'm just saying I don't imagine that Biden calls up Klaus Schwab and says, what's the plan?

You know what I mean? Yeah. I think they just all hang out and all share the same ideas and then act accordingly. Yeah, that makes more sense. Oligarchy as opposed to a top-down from Klaus. Yeah. All right. Rob Matt says, do you plan on making a TimCast.com app?

I'd like to stop using my browser to watch the After Show podcast. Yes, we are. It's currently being made. It's being made right now. And for those that are wondering, if you use Brave, the Brave browser, you can actually listen to the podcast while your screen is off. Because I think, I'm pretty sure Brave allows that. All right, let's get some more of these super chats.

Fel says, I have many friends in Ukraine. I wish them much love. Seriously. Ukraine's amazing, man. There was actually a period where I was like, I wonder if I could live there because it's so cheap for an american to live there inexpensive inexpensive is a better way to put it and um people who have foreign revenue who live there they live they live very very well so they're they're ukrainians who get jobs as programmers and make six figures us in a country where you only need you know a, a thousand bucks a month, you know, to get lunch and to pay for rent and everything like that. So they live very, very well, relatively.

Cortos, Corto Maltese says, Tim, why do you say the US versus Russia, US versus China? You do know that the entirety of Europe would oppose Russia and Taiwan and Japan and India would oppose China, right? The world could defend itself without the US. I hear you. Yep, absolutely. I just think as an American seeing Joe Biden say these things, it's what the U.S. is in conflict with. I certainly think other countries would have conflict as well, which is why we talk about World War III. Jason says, I received the Go Truck Yourself shirt. Love it. Go Tim and Castle Crew. Honk, honk. Nice. Yeah, we have a shirt over at timcast.com says go truck yourself go truck yourself to dc all right the happy holistic says did you hear putin's speech he said they only want

that part of ukraine that was russia's as a buffer against nato the communists gave it away and he rebuked communism while the west has embraced it. Wow. Did he really say that? That's bold. Wow. Well, I mean, in that capacity, I don't know if he's wrong. I used to think, like, I was just terrified. I was like, oh, he's a dictator. He's evil.

But in a way, I think that he's holding on to Russia so that some psycho doesn't take control and then go full woke. He's like the last vestige of freedom on Earth. Could that even be possible that it was putin all along red white and blue all right captain says ian the u.s had b1 and b2 aircraft china and russia have been trying to replicate the capabilities of them for decades now b-52 are for dropping fun police on dudes on horseback that have no anti-air iran's got a lot of anti-air though but um i think i think people need to realize when it comes to war you know we got bombs we got people we got technology but they've got cyber capabilities china and russia and they've got propaganda

capabilities the future of warfare if you got all the nukes in the world, but your country is crippled by civil conflict, you can't fire them. They may as well be useless. You may as well not have them. I mean, Russia has not the same quantities as far as what we have in the best of the equipment, but they have awesome air defense. They got hypersonic missiles now at this point. I mean, they're no slouch.

Don't get me wrong. I think China has about 500 nuclear warheads and that they're expected to have 1,000 of them in 10 years. That's right. That was big news that China was rapidly building new silos. Yep. Well, of course. All right. Excited says, Tim gets mad at Ian for talking about mixing household items.

Tim also gives a rundown on taking down power plants I didn't say how they were taken down I said 10 years ago there was a flaw publicly disclosed alright love you guys

alright Michael Adkins says thanks for paying attention that's right Michael Adkins says Klingengrad was part of Germany where Immanuel Kant was born. Is that true?

Yeah. How did it come to be that this little pocket exists? Because when the end of World War II, when everybody was dividing everything up, they made sure to keep... Russia. Yeah.

Very smart. They wanted access to the Baltic Sea. Absolutely. Man, they planned ahead. Yeah. Russia. Doing Russia stuff, man. Mr. Physics says, here's the messed up part, guys.

Putin is 100% correct. All of the Baltics, besides Poland and Lithuania, from like 860 to 1991, the Klevin line was destroyed by the Mongols and gave rise to Muscovy. All the Baltics, what, were Russia? I know that Kiev was the capital of Russia, what, in like 1080 or something? How far do you want to go back? Right, exactly. To the cavemen? There's the original

lines of demarcation. I mean, you know. Right. Yeah, the Rus princes took this land from someone else. Right. Yep. Let's see what we got here. John says, John Hutto says, Odessa is heavily Russian and Moldova is very sympathetic. Could he create a new Moldova inside Russia? What do you think? I mean, it's possible. Again, they don't underestimate the effects of the Russification and how people feel a connection in certain parts of what used to be the former Soviet Union.

Speaking of Moldova, I have a piece of Moldovite. This is a little off topic. This is volcanic glass. Or no, this is from an asteroid impact. Then it creates this green glass found in Moldova. I think it was found in Moldova. Cool. Soleil Cucumber says, Biden says he can tolerate just the tip.

I don't believe him. Prove it. There you go. No. Micah says, Tim, I think the police in Canada are being controlled by an inhibitor chip like the clones on Star Wars. Just a thought.

That's the only way to explain it, right? When they stood there all silent? No. There's leaked messages where they're laughing about trampling a woman on with their horses like an old lady was on a mobility scooter and they trampled over on a horse and they're gloating and laughing about the injuries i i i will say conservatives are getting a cold splash of water in the face on this one with these cops just brutalizing conservatives they've been doing it now for

some times the moment conservatives start protesting, like, wait a minute, the cops are beating us. We're the ones who supported them. Yeah, they don't care. The royal police, man. Yeah, that's why, look, I remember when Attila's gym was getting shut down and the cops were there. And the guys at Attila's gym, like, we're going to have them on. But they were saying, don't blame the cops. They're just doing their job.

And I'm like, what? Those cops don't got to come and shut you down they could leave the the first cops from the from that town did they were like yeah have a nice day then then they pulled in cops from other cities who came in and said we don't live here and we don't care and brought the boot to people's necks there was a uh counterpoint to what's going on in canada there was this one trucker on the daily mail he said said they were as dumb as a bag of hammers. They acted like Keystone Cops. Trucker guy, 53. Dumber than a bag of hammers. Keystone Cops. What does that mean exactly? Black and white reels of the cops that were really stupid.

Charlie Chaplin days. I just watched a really interesting documentary, which I found out was really worth watching. Oh, Keystone Film Company, 1912 to 1917. Yeah, Charlie Chaplin. It was an amazing story, but that's where that comes from. Anyway, point being, this one guy said that the cops are too stupid to be able to do their job right. At least the ones that arrested him and zip-tied him in five-degree weather for 30 minutes. Wow.

Geez. Yeah. Geez. All right. Alex Jones was right, says, Tim, you've said before social media tends to become right-wing, and now the world seems to be coming right-wing, thanks to the internet. In what some call the Great Awakening, could this be the reason for the Great Reset? No, I don't think so.

I think the Great Reset is a very specific plan by powerful international elites. And like Klaus Schwab, he just comes out and says all this stuff. So, you know, the World Economic Forum, Davos Group, they've got plans there. But I do think the expansion of the internet has allowed meritocracy to rapidly expand. If you look at what this show is, when this show started, when I started working on YouTube, even before this show, nobody gave me money. Nobody came to me and said, here's an investment and here's access to advertisement. I just started a YouTube channel and started making content. I did better and better.

People liked it. They shared it. Organic growth. There was zero advertising involved in any of this. Zero marketing. It was just organic growth based on what we put together and constantly improving and doing a better job.

And journalists right now, though, they'll get out of college. They'll have no skills. They'll apply and be hired by NBC News, which has an existing platform and be given a megaphone. There's no meritocracy. The reason I think the internet

makes things more right wing is because meritocracy ends up flourishing due to it. before the internet if you wanted access you had to get a job at it you had to go through a gatekeeper but you also had to speak their language like i was locked out of hollywood because i wouldn't bow and you were locked out of univision i think it's univision right they just they golden handcuffed you one of those companies disney well the first the first six months they were like you're doing great and then as soon as they decided to get woke i said no and they went okay real merit can't function in weird corporate autocracy where it's all about speak party line

like merit um emerges independently i had a really good idea for a video game that i pitched to vice and to abc because they were like we'd be interested in pursuing production. And the idea was to do an online game where once a week an apocalyptic scenario happens. Oh, I would love that. I was just playing Seven Days to Die last night. I would love to use something like this. So here's the idea. You play the game Monday through Thursday. You collect items.

You run around. You do whatever. Or you don't. Friday around 7 p.m., an apocalyptic scenario happens, an alien invasion, a flood, volcanic eruption, zombie apocalypse, military dictatorship. And then the goal is survive the weekend or survive the scenario. Maybe it would only be for like three hours. And then data would process the next day. Sunday, they would release. Here's how people responded to the crisis.

So if it was like an alien invasion, it would be like 73% of players hid in the basement. 3% of players went on rampages. You know, 1% peacefully walked into the aliens. If it's a zombie apocalypse, it would like break down. Here's how we analyzed player behavior when this scenario was presented to them. So it's like it would just be an open world game kind of like a gta until the scenario every friday night or maybe it's sunday night would be better monday morning what's good news people are working for news yeah monday morning

we could we could release the data that was the plan and um they i mean they were all like wow these are these are great i think if uh maybe it's a game we'll make now that we have the ability to do so. But in the company, they have no obligation to make a game. They have no experience in making. And a lot of people there were like, it's a good idea. We'll explore this. But what you were saying about meritocracy not working there, it doesn't work there because they're all following a path. They're all told, do task A, B, C, D.

What I propose deviates from that path. So they ignore it. Never. It doesn't happen you know i told vice and fusion i said to vice in 2013 all of your personalities should have youtube channels yes you should hire producers for them who film them at their desks talking about the news stories and what they're passionate about and they were like oh yeah yeah yeah yeah we're not gonna to do that. And imagine how big it would have been. It would have been huge, dude. Well, I mean, look what we're doing.

I told Fusion the same thing. And Fusion actually said, give it a shot. See what you can do. And I said, sure. And it worked. I mean, it worked moderately well. I was producing stuff for my own channel, but it wasn't exactly what I had pitched. It could have been so big for them.

And now look at all these big YouTubers. They're not the journalists. They could have listened to me. They didn't want to. That disaster game is awesome, man. It could be a good analytic learning tool of human psychology if it's like a free...

Yeah, you could do COVID. As long as... Like Friday night, all of a sudden, everyone gets a respiratory disease and start dropping dead. If it's a proprietary game, that might suck because then Facebook gets the data.

Yeah, yeah. Make it like a human learning tool we the idea was to create a base game that was open to community modification through some kind of democratic process and we would need the assistance of the community for planning and preparing scenarios so there could be like cool scripted events where like at 7 p.m all of a sudden in the game sirens go off and then all the tvs and all of the video game storefronts turn on. It's like the president, Trump or Biden or whoever. And they're like, martial law, lockdown's happening now. And then you see troops being deployed all throughout the cities. And how do you play that game?

What do you do? If the goal is to survive. And then if you win, you get a bonus or something. That's crazy, dude. That'd be fun, Gamma. I wonder what people would do cannibalism in the video game. Because it's a video game. Yeah, you'd need food and stuff.

We were like, you'd have to survive. So it'd only be for a few hours. But the Great Flood would be funny. Because people who are on the ground running around and driving around would get wiped out instantly. In their basement. They're like, my basement is fully stocked. And people would be like, I'm going to hide in my house. And then all of a sudden it fills with water and you lose.

And the people who were on skyscrapers got lucky. And it would just be like 83% of players were on the ground and died. And you'd be like, oh, come on. Some people would be in boats. So that's one idea. Anyway, we should read some more of these. Patrick C. said, Ian is rolling double 20s all night.

Double deuce. Let me just shout out this awesome 20-sided die again I just received today. Very beautiful. And yes, you are right, sir. Thank you very much. All right. We had a good one.

I just missed it. Where did it go? Buck Rust says, First time Super Chat resident of Frederick, Maryland. During the mandate, we never complied. Grocer grocery store was fine no one bothered us but five below toy store called the police what wow that's weird five below cops the mandate was in fact for like a month it was the most weird it was the weirdest thing

they were like we're doing a mandate and then i guess when no one listened they were like we're not gonna do the mandate anymore yeah literally on the first day they brought it back i went went to Barnes & Noble and we were like, we're not going to wear masks. We're going to see if anyone says anything. No one said a thing. The whole time this mandate was back. That's insane that that store called the police. That's wild. Frankie Sherratt says, Tim, how is the new baby chick?

It was awesome to see that on Cast Castle. If you go to YouTube.com slash Cast Castle, we have a video of one of a baby chick hatching. In fact, two hatched. Two. The other one came out? Yeah. I was giving it love last night. It came out.

I went down at two in the morning sending love and health and I'm here with you. Totally healthy. Popped out. Happy as can be. And now we've got 22 more eggs in the incubator. Oh my.

We are rapidly expanding this year, Chicken City. All right. All right. Joe Masinik says, I expanding this year, Chicken City. All right. All right. Joe Masinick says, I noticed Tim started building on Ian's comments recently. It's definitely a plus four to Ian's dice rolling. It makes the show better. Keep up the good work, everyone. Oh, snap.

Well, I got to be honest. It's because Ian is rolling more 20s. If Ian rolls a one, I'm going to be like, no, no, no. That's why Tim's in my party. Because he's honest. No, Ian's been rolling some 20s i mean even people people were saying i was the one who rolled the one when you said the cabal was controlling the planet oh the cabal good conversation they were like tim you're wrong

there is a cabal i'm like all right all right all right everybody all right let's just uh we'll grab some more super chats here brian wise carver says I'm at the beginning of the People's Convoy coordinating incoming donations in California. We're leaving tomorrow. I've emailed pitches at timcast.com to communicate with you guys. Send an email to spintheufo at gmail.com if you could. Can you look for that? I will. And that's Brian Wisecarver.

And then we're trying to coordinate some kind of coverage of the U.S. convoy. Checking right now. Yeah, yeah. Shanjak says, have you looked into local building codes for constructing earth ships and passive housing in the survival housing communities? Yeah, one of the things we actually try to do is build in areas that have less of the bureaucratic part of things as far as, you know, like out in West Virginia, there is no building code. So, I mean, obviously we stick to standard, you know, measures for safety of everybody involved through the things that we

build. But when you're talking survival, though, you know, it's all about location, location, location. So you don't have to have necessarily an underground bunker if you're where you have your location has a good defensible area. This is a good one. Garhant says, how are you going to prevent sectarian violence in the ranch? It's not impossible for Biden collapsing the world. And how many members will have Biden bumper stickers might want blue red ranches. No. So what happens is this kind of happens organically. I couldn't really choose a better, you know, I don't know every member in all the other locations, but in West Virginia, it's an amazing combination of folks.

Now, we don't vet. We don't ask you what your political affiliation is, anything like that. But people who tend to gravitate towards wanting to be a member, they tend to be of like-mindedness. And so we really don't have that as a major situation. But one of the key things is I try to spend as much time as I can getting to know the members, allow them to get to know me. And a key to why some of these who try to do it on their own, it falls apart because there is no leadership where there's clear lines of leadership, you know, at every ranch. That's why we only hire former law enforcement or military. And by the way, we're looking to hire again since we've expanded. So what roles as ranch manager or and we have a position for assistant ranch manager.

And so if people want to reach out to fortituderanch.com and reach out to manager at fortituderanch.com, we'll be collecting those resumes and reaching out to folks. Cool. Right on, right on. Cool, man. Well, how about this, everybody?

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You can follow me at TimCast basically anywhere. Steve, you want to mention anything more specifically? Yeah, well, I do want to mention about Survival Housing since this is the new startup. So you can find us at survivalhousing.net. And if you have our initial consultation is always free. We're trying to reach out and help folks since we're not at every location across the country. There's a lot of things right in the very beginning that you can make mistakes on,

and we're trying to help folks avoid that. I'm working with a group, Prepper Broadcasting Network, to bring in some of their consultants as well because there's certain expertise. We could all join forces with James Walton's doing an excellent job. They have 15 podcasts, 11 that are live every day, and you can get great survival-type information off them. So we're combining forces because I don't see any way out of this

and I'm not a fear monger, but people are going to need to plan and you really should be reaching out and looking to better your position. Absolutely. Cool, man. What's the website for either of them? Did you mention those?

So it's PrepperBroadcastingNetwork.com and then for SurvivalHousing.net. So if you wanted to get even just a free consult, then you can just fill out the contact form and we'll get back with you. And then there's also FortitudeRanch.com? Yep. So we work hand-in-hand.

I'm COO of both of them. So at Fortitude Ranch, then you can reach out there for more information if you want to become a member. Those who would be looking to want a ranch built in a different area that we don't have right now, please understand it takes investors in order to crank open a new one. And so we're definitely looking to do that as well. The best part about Fortitude Ranch is the dog that licks rocks. Yes.

Ringo. Ringo. I'm not joking. He grabs a big rock, makes sure you're looking at him, and then just puts his tongue on it and sits there. Yeah. It's the funniest thing ever. Mineralization. Oh, I love it.

They got into skunks about three days ago. Aye, aye, aye. I got to wash them. Oh, man. All right. Awesome. ChrisKarr17 on Twitter. Check out TimCast.com anytime you like, but especially tomorrow because we've got a really nice report coming out from Michael Robison, our writer, a potential Supreme Court case that could have some major impacts on First Amendment rights.

Michael Robison also with the monkeys that watch the show. Shout out to Michael and the monkeys. Those monkeys are awesome. Got a picture of the monkey really keyed into what we were talking about on the show. Smart monkeys, man. Love those monkeys. I'm Ian Crossland. Follow me at iancrossland.net.

Thank you guys so much for coming, and I'll see you later. And before we go, I wanted to say that I do have to agree with Tim. This is not a cabal. The definition of a cabal is a secret political clique or faction. This is not a secret, so what's going on with the elites is definitely not a cabal.

I'm Sarah Patchlitz. You can follow me on Twitter and at Minds.com. We will see all of you over at TimCast.com for that member segment. Thanks for hanging out. Bye, guys.