Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #474 - Trudeau ENDS Emergency Order Over Freedom Convoy As US Convoy Begins w/Jorge Ventura & Sagnik Basu

Episode Date: February 24, 2022

Tim, Ian, and Lydia join documentarians Jorge Ventura and Sagnik Basu to discuss Trudeau's choice to lift the authoritarian mandates, the National Guard deployment to DC in advance of a possible Ameri...can Freedom Convoy, the 'Hero To Zero' documentary that Jorge and Sagnik worked on, the new Ahmaud Arbery day being announced in Georgia, and what the far left will do with America's children. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Justin Trudeau has lifted the emergency order invoked to end the trucker protests. Why? Yo, everybody was yelling at them, and I think they realized it was really, really bad. They were going to be losing a lot of support. They'd lost a lot of support. When you even had individuals coming on this show who are more mainstream personalities saying it's martial law, I think Trudeau realized maybe you made a big mistake, but it shows you how effective the Freedom Convoy protests are that it forced their hand, pulled the mask off. Now the Canadian government is instructing banks to unfreeze the accounts. Why? Because people were rightfully freaking out at the prospect of the government
Starting point is 00:00:38 seizing your ass defectively without a court order. So this is huge. At the same time, DC is confirming National Guard is being deployed. There's two different US convoys, the People's Convoy and the Freedom Convoy, both departing from around LA, I believe, plus a whole bunch of other weird little convoys everywhere. Protest is going to get lit. We got one that's going to be heading to DC on the 1st for the State of the Union. National Guard will be deployed. Security fences are being set up. And then we've got another that's going to get to DC on the fifth. We'll see which one, you know, we'll see how big these get. The People's Convoy already
Starting point is 00:01:13 raised nearly $400,000. So this should get very, very interesting. Then we got some news on Ukraine. Get this. Joe Biden reissues the sanctions that Donald Trump had signed into place. Why he removed them, I have no idea. I think they're trying to appease Putin. It's clearly not working. So now they're back tracking and that won't work either. So we're going to talk about all that stuff, plus much, much more. Joining us is we have two documentarians, Jorge and Sagnik. Do you guys want to introduce yourselves? Yeah, my name is Jorge Ventura, field reporter for The Daily Caller. I'm Sagnik and I'm a producer for The Daily Caller.
Starting point is 00:01:47 And you guys have seen it all. I mean, I don't know if you were. Were you underground, Sognik, at the Kenosha stuff or no? I was in that. No, but you were, right? Yeah, man. Yeah, we've seen it all, man, from the riots in 2020 to the lockdowns on small businesses to the mental health aspect on teens.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Basically, the start of 2021 was the border crisis so we started seeing the human smoking human trafficking and it just seems like right now under this administration the news just never stops yeah that's crazy right what are you guys working on now so me and sonic actually we just released um last week it's our new documentary it's called hero to zero and basically what me and sonic wanted to do is we wanted to give a voice to all the first responders especially in southern california that refused to comply with the mandates and who have been fired or been placed on unpaid leave the reason why me and sonic wanted to produce this documentary was because we took a look at the corporate press and we we saw how the corporate press as you guys know the frontline workers like right anyone who
Starting point is 00:02:42 worked the grocery stores or nurses or firefighters they held them as heroes for the past two years. I'm from Los Angeles, so my mayor, Eric Garcetti, told us that every night at 6 p.m. we had to come out and bang pots and pans for these frontline workers. Now, fast forward to the mandates. Now those same frontline workers have been demonized by the media. They've been fired. L.A. Times put out an editorial saying we need to build back better by firing all the anti-vaxxer firefighters. So we felt that we wanted to give a voice back to the workers. And we didn't like how the corporate press was just treating regular first responders, American citizens, working class that were on the front lines for us while we were all quarantined.
Starting point is 00:03:17 So we want to give them a voice. That's why we actually named the documentary from Hero because they were held as heroes to Zero, where these people are literally not getting paid. They cannot pay their mortgages, can't put food on the table, for taking their stance, and I'm very proud of that. I think that's pertinent, especially considering what's going on with the Freedom Convoys. I think it's funny you mentioned Garcetti saying, bang pots and pans, because when the truckers honked
Starting point is 00:03:38 their horns, it was the apocalypse. But they want you to come out and bang pots and pans when it's their protest. So we'll get into all that stuff. Thanks for hanging out. We got Ian. He's chilling. What up, everybody? Hey, Jorge. Glad you're here, man.
Starting point is 00:03:48 So from time to time, bring this up because you guys did a lot of work on the border. Entrejas, which means deliveries, I believe it means. And this was around the wrist of a child. Yeah. The last time we were here, we were to show you guys those bracelets. Those are the bracelets that migrants are basically forced to wear by these human smugglers down in South Texas. So we just wanted to show the American people that these migrants are being used as essential just products for drug cartels, human smuggling groups. According to some reports that we got, human smugglers right now are making up to $14 million a day just off human smuggling.
Starting point is 00:04:22 We're not even talking about the fentanyl that's coming into the country yet. We got immigration stories as well with what's going on. I mean, it's kind of crazy what's happening with Ukraine. A lot of people are upset because our own border isn't being protected. But we'll get into all that stuff. We got Lydia pressing all the buttons. I am also here in the corner pushing buttons. Very excited to have Jorge and Sogmik back.
Starting point is 00:04:38 We always enjoy having them. They always bring the on-the-ground reporting from wherever they go, and we appreciate their presence. And we also, for some reason, there's a vagrant sitting in the back of the room. Oh, yeah. Look at this guy. Look at this.
Starting point is 00:04:48 He's beanie wearing. Can you see him? Yeah, we can see him. Wild pink t-shirt wearing point break beanie. It's Richie McGinnis. Yeah, beanie. Richie McGinnis. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:56 He's in the beer caddy today. Yes, he is. No one can. Oh, here he comes. Oh, here he comes. There you go. No comment. I'm a beer caddy,
Starting point is 00:05:03 and I have the right to remain silent. That's true. He does. Richie McGinnis, ladies. A.K.A. Matthew McConaughey. He's trapped here, though, so we got him in the room. But don't forget, go to TimCast.com, become a member. You can also support our work directly.
Starting point is 00:05:16 We're going to have a special members-only segment coming up around 11 or so p.m. for all of our members. But as a member, you're keeping all of our journalists employed. We don't rely heavily on sponsorship for the most part. We do, for the website, rely on people being members. And we have a lot of members. You guys make it all possible. We're eternally grateful for that. So don't forget, smash that like button. One like is one honk. Subscribe to this channel. Share the show with your friends. Let's talk about this first big story. This is crazy. From Al Jazeera, Trudeau lifts emergency order invoked to end trucker protests. Amid criticism, the Canadian PM insists Emergencies Act was needed to quell anti-government blockades and occupation. Speaking to reporters on Wednesday afternoon, Trudeau said the Emergencies Act was necessary to help law enforcement agencies disperse large numbers of protesters who had descended on Ottawa. We get it, but it's not true. It's absolutely not true. They could have had a
Starting point is 00:06:10 very small group of police officers, very small, walk up to the peaceful truckers and say, we're placing you under arrest for obstructing a roadway. And that's it. We've seen them do this over and over again to climate change activists, to left wing protesters. I understand Canada is a different country than the US, but come on, policing is very similar here and there. Instead, they pulled out the boot and they put it on people's necks. My opinion is that they wanted to make these emergency powers permanent. We already heard the deputy prime minister in Canada say we want this financial powers to be permanent because of cryptocurrencies and crowdfunding. And now all of a sudden, oh, we're lifting the order. Why? I think the backlash was bad.
Starting point is 00:06:51 They wanted to use the protest as an excuse to expand their powers. It didn't work. Well, I don't know what's going to happen next. Certainly, they did crush those protests. We got protests coming here into the US. They're trying to unfreeze bank accounts. But I'll throw it to you guys. I mean, you guys have been on the ground for a lot of protests. I don't know if you guys were following what was happening with the truckers up in Canada or at similar protests. But I'm curious what your thoughts are based on what you've seen on the ground versus what's displayed in the news. I think for me, the biggest takeaway was this is one of the biggest worker uprisings that we've ever seen in our history, where you actually have true
Starting point is 00:07:24 people in the middle class, working class actually actually uprising together and it's not like a fringe left or fringe right um it's just a true working class coming together then you actually got to see the canadian government how they responded with just complete government overreach using their security forces to beat up on protesters to beat up on also members of the a lot of members of the rebel news which which I'm really truly grateful for Rebel News because their journalists have been on the ground and just getting us these crucial videos of what's going on in Ottawa. And without them, I feel like we would be just kind of be, you know, depending on the corporate media. And the way actually I look at Rebel News is actually I look at our D.C. Riot Squad in 2020,
Starting point is 00:08:01 where it's like you kind of have these few on the ground reporters getting these kind of viral videos and showing you the truth um but i think one of the biggest takeaways from what's going on in canada was that you know governments all over have been completely silent when it comes to violence on peaceful protesters and also members of the media um i think one of the the key takeaways that i've took away is that at least the president of el salvador naipu kelly has come out and spoken out against this. And it's interesting to see because for me as well as these demonstrations were happening in Yemen or Afghanistan or anything like that, the U.S. government will be quickly up in arms and telling us how we need to intervene. But since it's Canada, I mean we've been completely silent on this issue.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Didn't Canada issue a statement about Cuba recently? Like during the protest? Did you see that? Something like that where they're like people should have their free speech. Like shut up. Nobody believes you. You know what's really fascinating about this though? The craziest thing is for me to see, you mentioned this in the intro, that Garcetti is like bang your pots and pans for the first responders.
Starting point is 00:09:01 And I'm like you mean be a public nuisance and keep people up at night? No, no, no. I don't really care about the pots and pans. What do they call that? They call it the casseroles protest. Yeah. I don't mind that. I don't care if people are banging pots and pans all gone.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Be like, make some noise. But they complain about the truckers honking their horns. Now, I get it. I'll say it all the time. Different countries. But the same people in the US who are supporting banging pots and pans and protesting with Black Lives Matter during a pandemic are condemning truckers for going out and protesting. Speaking of like protests, the trucker protest is like to cause a disruption so that people in charge realize that though like we are essential to what you do and how the country works and if you stop
Starting point is 00:09:52 working there's a huge problem so you as our ruler are kind of responsible to take care of what our needs and demands is because like you are in charge of us well and we vote you we vote you guys in i i take my cues from alexandria ocasio-cortez she's a great leader she's a thought leader for our generation and she says that protests are are supposed to make you uncomfortable right yeah i say you're so right you're so brilliant i absolutely agree boy no no but in all seriousness so she she is right the problem is the protests she was offending violent, riotous, and the ones we're defending are like people parking their trucks in the street and honking. I wonder if they would have had a better protest if they weren't honking, if they had just blocked traffic and sat there and stopped working.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Because you want to make people uncomfortable, but it's the kind of discomfort where like, uh-oh, if the truckers aren't there, we're going to suffer. Not the kind of discomfort where like it hurts because you're making so much noise stop because now most of those people in ottawa wanted the truckers gone they're downtown though it's like they're going into suburbs and like residential neighborhoods worse downtown because you have buildings with just densely packed uh citizens that are suffering basically it's not a residential area though i've seen video of people like their high-rise recording from above. There are people who live there. I'm not saying nobody lives there, but it's not like they're going into a strictly residential neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:11:10 They're going into a business district in downtown. I understand the intent to disrupt and blockade. I get that part, but the noise was really destructive, probably unnecessarily destructive. So American guys, you truckers, keep that in mind. They're looking for a reason to bust you. Don't give oh everyone's posting ones in chat no no no no honking honking i think is brilliant me too uh it's it's it's you're just honking your horn you're making noise these protesters go around with boom boxes they go around screaming they go around chanting they bang drums non-stop This is what protests have been
Starting point is 00:11:45 doing for a really, really long time to come out now and be like, oh, but the truckers shouldn't. I'm like, look, we tolerate a certain degree of discomfort for nonviolent civil disobedience. And making noise can be annoying and frustrating, but it really does show you the complete BS that is the left-right paradigm that That when you are making noise in their city, how dare you? Oh, I'm going to go and enact emergency powers and freeze your banks. Yet they can go out and they can bang whatever they want, whenever they want for their cause. That when you're engaging in your protest on the steps of your state capitol building, they say, oh, it's a super spreader event, these evil far-right guys. And then they go up by the thousands during the same pandemic and the
Starting point is 00:12:27 nurses are clapping and cheering for them. I love that photo where the nurse is standing in front of the truck that says like no mandates or whatever. And they're like, you know, hands on their hips. And then at the same time, you get a video of nurses clapping for Black Lives Matter. I'm like, dude, I'm not playing this stupid. You get, stupid you get rules for the but not for me game. If we tolerate banging from the left and pots and pans, I got no issue with people honking their horns. I wouldn't tolerate it. Outside my house, if people were making noise 24-7, I wouldn't tolerate it.
Starting point is 00:12:57 I'd make it stop. And if the law wasn't – well, there's lots of ways to do it. No, there isn't. Yeah. One of them is call the cops. Right. Noise ordinances and stuff. We have them for a reason. So you support the emergency powers to crack it. No, there isn't. Yeah. One of them is call the cops. Right. Noise ordinances and stuff. We have them for a reason.
Starting point is 00:13:05 So you support the emergency powers to crack down on the freedom? No, and I think the fact that they could do that and do it again tomorrow if they wanted to spin them up again is terrifying. And we should repeal the Patriot Act. That they could use the NDA. I don't know. I mean, for me, it's hard to fault the truckers at all. I mean, the honking's not a big deal.
Starting point is 00:13:21 I guess for me, from my perspective, it's just from being on the ground and seeing the Black Lives Matter protests in person. You know, you had folks in – I mean, there was that famous aerial shot in D.C. where almost it looked like every single building was on fire. You had people in D.C. in their high-rises where they're filming videos, like, actually cheering on the protests. And as soon as the protesters look at them, they'll, like, throw a rock through the windows. So for me, it's like, you know, the honking, I can't fault, especially what we've seen on the ground here in the United States. And the thing is, the media that's demonizing the truckers, I mean, fault, especially what we've seen on the ground here in the United States. And the thing is, the media that's demonizing the truckers, I mean, they're all in cities that were being wrecked by the Black Lives Matter protests in 2020.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Yeah, so I may disagree with Ian about whether or not the truckers should have been honking. But I do think he has a salient point about the feds now keeping a very close eye on the truckers. Jack Posobiec also made the point recently. He said, I don't think that a convoy is the best way to get your point across. He said, I think that a general strike is a better way to do it. And I think that's true because it is so decentralized. It's something we talk a lot about. I think something so decentralized would really
Starting point is 00:14:16 drive the point home. Look at this video real quick. This is such a great video. This is a video from the Black Lives Matter insurrection in Washington, D.C. Look at the smoke everywhere. It's absolutely insane. I will never forget that image. I remember that image always sticks out to me.
Starting point is 00:14:32 My sister, she owns a wine bar in downtown D.C. And the day after this, she sent me photos of her glasses. And she has plants outside the bar and everything was shattered and stuff like that and even if like i was to like step myself out of the bubble and be like hey is this dangerous or are truckers blocking downtown and honking dangerous i would rather i don't know i would choose the one where my sister's bar glasses got shattered yeah you you right right right we're gonna see this freedom convoy there's. There's two. There's actually several. There's more than two. People's Convoy is going to be leaving.
Starting point is 00:15:08 I think they left today. They left today from Adelanto, California, which is in San Bernardino County. And they're planning on making it to D.C. by the 5th. Yeah. But there's also the Freedom Convoy. The small ones, yeah. Yeah, it's crazy. And they're going to be there on the 1st.
Starting point is 00:15:20 So I guess they're driving a lot more. So basically starting March, there's going to be a lot of truck truckers a lot of people basically all over the dmv area yeah i'm making the same point we live we live here oh boy we're we're we're super close to frederick which is like the last and it's not just that now dc is again back to the green zone which it was after gen 6 which is kind of makes me really sad because i've been living in dc for like three years now and the city was all fine and dandy before i don't know like covid and after covid happened and gen 6 happened the city turned into a green zone and it was all sad and gloomy and downtown you can like hear like a needle drop and it was kind of
Starting point is 00:15:59 getting better and starting i don't know like yesterday it's again like getting locked up and it feels like a symbolic protest this this going to dc and setting up in know, like yesterday, it's again like getting locked up. It feels like a symbolic protest, this going to D.C. and setting up in the Capitol. It's more – it's not a functional protest. It doesn't actually do anything. You're wrong. It's like look how big I am. I'm bigger than you. I control the world now.
Starting point is 00:16:20 And the feds are going to be like, no, you don't, bro. And I'm going to show you how you don't. Let's address this. And first, I want to give us, we got a story here breaking down a little bit what we got. USA Today reports truck convoy nearing nation's capital. Pentagon okays use of National Guard vaccination drive stalls as Omicron fades. COVID updates. As many as 700 National Guard are prepared to take posts across the nation's capital
Starting point is 00:16:42 amid planned trucker protest convoys that organizers say could paralyze the city without entering it. Bob Bolas, a Pennsylvania truck driver, says he's leading the Freedom Convoy of trucks from Pennsylvania to Washington on Wednesday, but he told NBC4 in Washington that he has backed off immediate plans to gridlock the capital. We're not shutting the traffic down today. If we don't have a resolution from the government to the rights that they're taking from us, I will predict in the future it will get shut down. So you've got, there's this Pennsylvania convoy coming from the north. You've got the People's Convoy coming from California. I think Freedom Convoy is also California, right?
Starting point is 00:17:16 Correct. And there's also one coming from Maryland and the guy, he's running for governor in Maryland. He's also there, but there's some iffiness because it's just one truck and his tires got slashed. So many things happened at one time. Interesting. So I think these protests are incredibly effective. Nay, Ian, I believe they may be the most effective we've seen in our lifetimes because I've seen many. And perhaps you could argue the George Floyd riots got a lot done for Black Lives Matter. But those are riots, not protests.
Starting point is 00:17:48 And we know the establishment has been defending and supporting these violent extremists. In terms of a protest, you look at what happened in Ottawa. Boy, did that generate press. It made the issue of border vaccines the number one story, which is it's important. The squeaky wheel gets the grease, which is why nonviolent civil disobedience works. When you go out and you stage a disruptive protest, you'll get a slap on the wrist. You'll get arrested. And I think you should because you're crossing a line. But it's a line we say, OK, OK, we get it. You wanted people to hear you. All of a sudden, the news says, hey, that disruption, it was because of this. So if you look at the Ottawa protests, how many people were talking about vaccine mandates on
Starting point is 00:18:28 the border? Not a whole lot. The truckers get in their trucks, they drive to Ottawa, and all of a sudden for three or four weeks, one of the biggest stories internationally was this. Trudeau was forced to, I don't think he was necessarily forced to, I don't think they needed to use emergency powers, but the mask slips. Now we can see you got, you got regular people saying, this is fascism. This is martial law. It has exposed the despotism of these, of this establishment one grain of sand at a time. I'm not going to pretend like there's a revolution overnight from truckers honking their horns, but people can see the double standard. They can see the, the, the BS hierarchy. We call it now not
Starting point is 00:19:05 hypocrisy that the left gets away with this stuff and the right gets punished for it and you can see the lengths they're willing to go to maintain power that's the main thing because like no one would have ever expected that trudeau would just invoke a terrorism clause just like that just to get a hold of how people are supporting these truckers like just think about that for a fact like to think about the fact that this the thing which they did in terms of like freezing the bank accounts and even to reach as far as the crypto stuff like the fact that trudeau went that far i think that just credits the truckers that without them putting this up front and center no one would have guessed that the prime minister could go as far as to
Starting point is 00:19:46 getting a hold of your personal bank account. I think that they would invoke terrorism stuff because of the violence, because of the noise and, and roll ones all you want guys, but noise, it can be violent. You can kill someone with too much noise. Terrorism though,
Starting point is 00:20:00 that that has terrorism by definition has like a political motive to it. Well, I think that they were trying to scare people or this is the mentality where they're going to say they're trying to scare people to get their politics accomplished i try to frighten them into submission ian come on man this is this i know but this is my i'm war gaming the scenario right now a fascist dictatorship will use this argument and say you're honking is violent you are aggressing on the people and we're going to invoke whatever we need to stop it. And that is exactly why it was an effective protest.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Because any sane, rational person is hearing that going, what? Just honking. What are we talking about? But when you're there, I thought it was just honking until I watched a video of a guy that lives there, and it's like, okay, it's not just honking. It's nonstop, all day, loud noise. I mean, it's going to be not comfortable, but I agree with Sonic's take where I think what happened in Ottawa actually exposed the Canadian government.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Because I think we've all, you know, all of us were like, hey, they wouldn't go that far. Then we saw the freezing of the bank accounts. Then we saw the videos of these police officers rolling up to these truckers and just busting out their windows. Then we saw the viral footage of that disabled woman trampled by the horse. So I think that actually did, was actually really effective in exposing the Canadian government. Because we never knew that they could be that authoritarian. I mean, up to my knowledge. My concern is if you want to expose the American
Starting point is 00:21:10 government and its fascist ways, okay, but if you hold a piece of meat out in front of a hungry wolf and it bites your hand, yeah, you exposed it for being the dumb idiot animal that it was, but what was the cost of the exposition? I don't need to sacrifice a bunch of truckers to prove that fascist dictatorship has taken over our government 100 years ago.
Starting point is 00:21:29 What do you mean by sacrifice? I don't want to see people go to solitary to try and just to prove that Biden's in the hand of Klaus Schwab or some – like the Federal Reserve. It's so fascist. This whole system, we don't need to hurt ourselves to prove this right now. We need to fix it. Fascistic, I think, is the better word. You know what I don't like about people saying communism and fascism is that they represent – Extremes.
Starting point is 00:21:51 No, they represent 100 years ago when we had these rising ideologies in Europe. They were specific. Now we've got a lot of technology that has changed how it's being implemented. And when Trudeau and Biden, they use these authoritarian powers, it's like commune fascism. It's weird. So there's a meme where they fold the political compass, authoritarian right and left over. It's like whatever China is doing. It's like, yeah, no, no, exactly.
Starting point is 00:22:17 It's like a weird new thing. But I will respond to you, Ian, by saying we don't want violence. Violence doesn't work because the establishment preys upon it. When you look at January 6th, it was everything the Democrats and the neocon never Trumpers wanted because now
Starting point is 00:22:35 they could justify everything. And we've got a system of laws that say, oh, you got violent. We got you now. The truckers. It was amazing. They were annoying. They were annoying. That was it. People were annoyed by them. The people that a lot of people weren't annoyed by it. They were just like dancing in the street.
Starting point is 00:22:49 They were having a good time. What happens, though, is the powerful elites don't know how to deal with it because you're not doing anything. It's like going outside of someone's house and just protest yelling. It's like you're allowed to do it. Well, but the noise violations, you gotta be careful. I do support a bunch of quiet, silent protest, which a bunch of trucks just stopped in the roads for miles. That's epic. You also have to think about the protesters.
Starting point is 00:23:13 These truckers have been through so much, have been through all these crazy mandates, and now they're saying that anytime they cross into Canada, they're technically this electronic QR code. For them, enough is enough. And I don't think honking is the worst thing in the world that they could do. It's not just that. Like as journalists,
Starting point is 00:23:30 we focus on narrative imagery binaries. Like think about the imagery of the State of the Union going on. And God bless Biden's speechwriters because I don't know what he's going to talk about. But State of the Union going on, and at the same time, all these truckers outside the Capitol just blocking everything. So that's like a –
Starting point is 00:23:51 And you're going to hear this. That's an optic. That's a binary in front of you right there. Whatever Biden cooks up at that speech, I don't know what he will, but there are people who are just literally saying, stop this stuff. We need to go back to what it was. Can you imagine if, like, for the State of the Union, Joe Biden just comes out 100 percent honest?
Starting point is 00:24:10 And he's like, in my first year, my policies have driven massive inflation, high gas prices. We're having a new war forming in Eastern Europe. Afghanistan was a mess. They chose me to be here in the first place. We got a fentanyl crisis killing Americans. Ukraine right there. Dude, I to be here in the first place. We got a fentanyl crisis killing Americans. Ukraine right there. Dude, I would love him if he did that. I agree.
Starting point is 00:24:31 If he came out and actually was just like totally honest with everything. I'd respect it. Yeah. I'd be like, wow. I think that would actually, in some respect, make him one of the best presidents we've ever had for just coming out and laying bare everything he did wrong. I might be getting too old for this job, too. I need you guys to know that I'm not who I used to be. It's hard for me to talk. I'm there with you, Joe.
Starting point is 00:24:51 I want to go to bed. Why am I here? So I will respond to your point, though, Ian. Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable. Kennedy said that, and you fact-checked that for me the other day. And Gandhi. Yeah, the Gandhi protests. But but even even black lives matter like if they like for example this is an example let's just let's just say they brought
Starting point is 00:25:12 a hundred thousand people to you know the the capital non-violent protests peaceful demonstration they actually would have got a lot more done i mean fast forward to this year black lives matter i mean to to be honest they really haven't got much done the only people that have really benefited are the founders like patrice colors who are now richer than ever got deals with levi got deals with youtube got you know buying mansions in malibu um but everyone else hasn't got anything from it i mean there's literally local groups all over the country if you guys look it up that are very angry with black lives matter because they didn't do anything to actually fund their movement. We even have some people that – some mothers and fathers speaking out who had their son or daughter killed by police
Starting point is 00:25:52 who said, hey, Black Lives Matter came, and all they did was just grift. Like literally they got rich, and we didn't even see a dollar back into the community. So even Black Lives Matter, with their violent protests, even though the media was on their side, they technically didn't get anything accomplished. And you've got to understand, we're dealing with this overarching culture war. Black Lives Matter had, for a long time, corporate support, institutionalized support, the vice president supporting, while they're burning down buildings and quite literally killing people. Aaron Danielson killed in Portland by an Antifa guy. You had the Antifa guy firebomb the ICE facility.
Starting point is 00:26:25 You had 30-plus dead in the George Floyd riots. And they still receive institutional support. And then along come some truckers, and they honk their horns, and everybody loses their minds. And so I'm like, oh, yeah, my business was destroyed last, you know, not last year, but the year before from the George Floyd riots. Why are you complaining to me and using emergency powers over some guy honking his horn? It's a slap in the face to the average person whose lives were destroyed, that you're going to have someone come out and they're going to be like, noise is violence, so we're going to crush you and
Starting point is 00:27:03 freeze your banks. They do that, the mask comes off, and you're going to have someone come out and they're going to be like, noise is violence, so we're going to crush you and freeze your banks. They do that, the mask comes off, and you're going to have a lot of regular people, although I will admit, I don't know how many people are uninitiated at this point, but there's going to be a lot of people questioning what's going on. Correct. Like in a bubble, like in the news bubble, in the politics bubble, it may seem like pretty mundane to us that people, oh, I hate the mandate. Oh, I hate the mandate oh i hate the vaccine i hate masks but if you think about it a normal people say like throw on the word normie like who doesn't care about all this and he just comes across like the dmv and all these truckers are clogging up and he starts asking the question what's up what's going
Starting point is 00:27:39 on why are these people here and that kind of like sparks the discourse within that community. And then they realize that, oh, hey, maybe the shelves are empty. Why are the shelves empty? Because the truckers are not bringing stuff across. Why are the truckers not doing that? Because they hate the mandates. Hey, what's up with the mandates? But let me make one more point for you, Ian.
Starting point is 00:27:58 When everybody goes out and smashes and destroys things for the George Floyd riots. People on the right, people who are not even on the right, who had their businesses destroyed, they're furious. And all of a sudden now they are gifted an emotional release that has no long-term damage. They honk their horn and they feel better. They get to express themselves and it can help things depressurize. Because if you tell these people they're not even allowed to be noisy while the other other rioters destroyed everything then you're going to make violent revolution inevitable when people lose their minds i i could see how what you're you guys are saying like maybe that getting the wolf to snap at your hand and grab at the food is important
Starting point is 00:28:39 to show people like hey it's not a puppy dog it's a wolf and wake people up that way like the the 1970 may 4th kent state shooting vietnam protest a puppy dog it's a wolf and wake people up that way like the the 1970 may 4th kent state shooting vietnam protest a bunch of students were out there and they're throwing rocks at the national guard national guard opened fired and killed four people um and that shocked the country into awareness basically brought about the end of vietnam war more or less you know the song that was written about it was powerful too ohio uh by crosby stills nash and young so maybe but i don't want to see a bunch of people's lives get destroyed by some stupid patriot act.
Starting point is 00:29:10 You're right. You're right. And I think it's their choice to make. And I also just want to say, man, I mentioned other people get that emotional release from it, but I got to admit, me having watched years, a decade of rioting, and the right never comes out in protests, and then finally, when they do for issues of freedom, they get demonized. It feels good for me when I watch truckers going, honk, honk. I'm tweeting the word honk in all caps. People are saying the cure for clown world is
Starting point is 00:29:36 honking. Well, it's just like it feels good to be able to have something. It feels good. No, we don't want to get violent. I don't. I think violence is bad. I don't want to see people get hurt. But man, is it frustrating to see the extremists on the left do all of this stuff and get away with it and have the media lie and cover up for them? And then you know what gets that? You know what happens? I watch some truckers piss up, piss all of these people off by honking. No long term damage to these people.
Starting point is 00:30:01 No one's getting hurt. They're just getting frustrated and angry. And it feels good at the very least. Like, thank you. We've expressed our outrage to you. That frustration we've had, it allows people to laugh about it. I think it's important. Yeah, one of the best parts, too,
Starting point is 00:30:16 I think with the Tucker, I mean with this whole Tucker protest, is that it actually exposes those who, on the left, who say that they're supposed to be pro-worker. You know, remember, let's not forget, the left in the progressive say that they're supposed to be pro-worker you know remember let's not forget the left in the progressive movement they're supposed to be the side on the worker the middle class and actually i was i was telling some some some people that hey when mean sonic produces here is your documentary if you would have watched this in the early 2000s or the early 90s you would have thought liberals produced it right because
Starting point is 00:30:40 we were taking the side of the worker going against big pharma going against big corporations so that what's happening with the truckers and the optics of the worker going against Big Pharma, going against big corporations. So what's happening with the truckers and the optics of the truckers, it's also exposing those in the left and the media who say that they are pro-worker or they're on the side of the little man. Well, now the little man's protesting and they're still being demonized. So I think that's actually kind of the best thing to look for. And also, we've never really seen the trucker movement ever uprise like that, right? So like the Black Lives Matter, that's more young people. Maybe these anti-vaccine mandate stuff earlier were like, hey, these people are fringe right. But these truckers are just regular folks.
Starting point is 00:31:12 I mean really – my dad is a trucker. So it's a guy that literally goes into his truck, works 16 hours a day, doesn't see his family for two to three months. I mean these people are the true working class. Well, so let's talk about your documentary. You've got, like the truckers, you had these people who were considered essential. They were heroes. It was not just medical workers.
Starting point is 00:31:34 It was truckers. It was first responders. Firemen. Firemen. But it was also people working at retail stores. Right, yeah. Then these mandates come out. They fire the nurses.
Starting point is 00:31:43 They mock the truckers. And like you guys covered, they fire the first responders. It's not just the firing of it. It's more about the dichotomy of like two years ago, you – and I don't know, maybe rightly so. You held up the, hey, these are our heroes. And also, which I was surprised to, while talking to a bunch of the nurses, they were actually personally i never liked being called hero and stuff like that because like that like that's what i do for a living like the fact that they're acknowledging it right now kind of makes me makes me really suspicious that by labeling us hero right now they already are starting off with a
Starting point is 00:32:19 political motive so that's one thing which i noticed and the second thing was like yeah that was like two years ago and now the same people who just said that hey it's my personal choice i don't want to i don't want the vaccine right now they were really cut off point blank and not only that there are like so many real little minutiae here and the nurses they had to wear different badges in their hospitals like a pink badge or like a yellow badge to let people know that, hey, I'm not vaccinated, which kind of invokes, it's super subtle. Like if you think about it, like they're wearing a pink badge while everyone else is wearing their, like the default badge, because like someone might come up to you and ask you, hey, why are you wearing a pink badge?
Starting point is 00:32:59 Then you, by nature of the conversation, are kind of forced to let people know that I'm not vaccinated, which kind of infringes on your personal boundary. So there are so many little things which no one talks about. But two years ago, these were the same people. Firefighters, cops, grocery shop workers. The thing that me and Sonic talked about was we were surprised. We're like, hey, where's these progressive journalists? They're supposed to be doing this.
Starting point is 00:33:24 The Daily Caller isn't supposed to be taking the pro worker site technically it's supposed to be the progressive movement and one of the firefighters that that we interviewed that stands out to me is is josh sadly josh sally's a firefighter for the beverly hills fire department since october 1st josh sally has been placed on unpaid leave till today hasn't received a paycheck he has a family of four we meet me and son got to meet his wife and kids and he hasn't uh received a paycheck um the city has him in limbo as of right now he's on pace to be the first firefighter fired in southern california for not taking the vaccine and these are the stories that we wanted to tell the american people say hey these are real people
Starting point is 00:33:59 you know i know you guys watch the la times and things like that and they've been demonized as these q and honors or anti-vaxxers. These are real Americans. And at the same time, the L.A. Times was praising these same people just a year or two years ago. So we wanted to give them a voice, and it kind of ties down to this trucker movement where the regular average or working-class citizen has been demonized from the media. I mean, since basically the beginning of the pandemic, obviously you guys know 2020, the greatest transfer of wealth, the poor got poorer, the richer got richer. And it just seems like the working class doesn't have any voice and really in any any media space right now. I mean, you turn on MSNBC. They were demonizing, cheering. I mean, for me, I think the part that was most, I guess, shocking was just seeing these progressives with the columnstops or people on
Starting point is 00:34:45 the left cheering on the firing of workers. I mean, first of all, if a firefighter gets placed on unpaid leave, the progressive one was supposed to be the first one to say, hey, wait a minute, why is this worker being placed on unpaid leave with no type of, you know, core or date? So for me, that's been the most shocking part, how no one wants to give first responders a voice. And I highly encourage anyone in the audience, please watch documentary it's called hero to zero we have our own website for it so it's hero to zero doc.com like that we could avoid any time a youtube censor and please share these stories because like this we can at least combat uh that mainstream narrative i was thinking about how it's challenging for blue collar workers to have a voice it seems
Starting point is 00:35:22 like in society and it's almost like it's built that way because if a blue-collar worker starts a YouTube channel and starts getting notoriety, all of a sudden they're white-collar. Now they're making money off their YouTube channel, and they don't need to do their other job anymore. And so it seems like the nature of giving a voice to anyone makes them white-collar almost. Well, the thing is, too, Ian, is 90% of the media is owned by these six large corporations. So anytime you even want to start to tell real stories about Americans, I mean, those, you know, those journalists get
Starting point is 00:35:49 cut off really quick. You know, they say, hey, wait a minute. We don't want you telling that story. We want you to fall right back in line and do this. And the thing is, the problem with media in D.C. and New York is these folks are stuck in their own media bubbles. I mean, a lot of these journalists that live in Washington, D.C., they don't know anyone who lost a business during the shutdowns. They don't know anyone's kids who fell under the depression
Starting point is 00:36:09 or suicidal underscore shutdown. So they can never relate to an average American. I think that's been my biggest takeaway. Yeah, I can attest to that personally. I live in D.C. I'm in the quote-unquote
Starting point is 00:36:19 journalism bubble, politics. Like, I usually, like, hang around in, like, the Capitol Hill area, downtown area, but I live in D.C. but if and only when i travel for work or for documentary purposes and i go to all these places where all these working class people live it's also like so apparent to me that these people like the it's so bizarre to me it looks completely different take a look at this story from 2018
Starting point is 00:36:42 it's from geek wire clash at. Clash at Amazon HQ. Construction workers shout down council members over planned attacks. Big business. I love this because these construction workers are the actual working class. They have their laborers. They do work. They build. They maintain the infrastructure.
Starting point is 00:36:59 These are the people who make the machine run on time. And the people protesting Amazon are leftist, bourgeois intelligentsia, acting like they're the working class. And this is what I think you guys, what you're working on, it really exposes this, this documentary. When they come out, they say, oh, we support the first responders. It's just hunger games. It's hunger games. It's when they parade around the victors and act like they care about these people. They don't. And then finally, when those people tell them, I don't want to do what you're telling me, all of a sudden it's war.
Starting point is 00:37:36 All of a sudden you're the problem. I love this video. Construction workers in hard hats started chanting down the leftist college, you know, faux working class people. Really exposing them. Well, one thing too, Tim, really quick is during 2020, one thing that I try to speak out is in 2020, Amazon – I mean for Amazon, this was brilliant. You know, Amazon, all they have to do in 2020 is just – you know, if you go shop on Amazon on their website, all they have to put is, oh, Black Lives Matter. And all of a sudden, the progressive movement who's supposed to be pro-worker are like, wait a minute, Amazons are on our side.
Starting point is 00:38:08 You just, you know, they say Black Lives Matter, yet their own black employees can't even pay their wage or their bills. You know, they have to live in their cars. Their own black employees don't have any health care. So that's one thing also these corporations have figured out is, hey, as long as we play this social justice message, we no longer have to attend to the pro-worker policies that the left wants. Those are called platitudes, I believe. Corporations offer platitudes.
Starting point is 00:38:30 I think the activist left are basically some of this country's elite. They really are. I know there's a lot of college debt. Don't get me wrong. But a lot of these people are the highest salary earners in the country. People with college degrees have, these people are the highest salary earners in the country. Correct. People with college degrees have, on average, the highest salaries. They're just angry.
Starting point is 00:38:52 They're not billionaires. When I think about around here, this organization, obviously what you do is the most important aspect here. But it's Ben Townsend, the most blue-collar. He's the guy that fixes machines, can code your computer for you, can like fix your computer. Like that's elite. Keeps things running, yeah. The people who are working behind the scenes to make sure the infrastructure is operational, those are the working class people. Not the – like if I were to come out and be like, I think it's unfair what these people are doing. I should get more.
Starting point is 00:39:22 The government should give me subsidies and abolish my debt it'd be like what that's ridiculous it's the thing which like the country has moving towards a point where people who work in the quote-unquote information economy only they will be catered to like if you work with your hands and stuff like that you are not part of the conversation like being like the whole trucker protest will never be as cool as black lives matter is like people will not put black lives matter people will not put sorry uh the trucker symbol as their profile photos as they put black lives matter there's not going to be a freedom trucker plaza in dc correct they're not going to spray freedom convoy on the ground maybe
Starting point is 00:40:01 in 80 years but could you imagine i just want but... I just want you to imagine something real quick. I want you to imagine being a BuzzFeed employee getting paid $50,000 or $60,000 a year to write listicles and then go, hmm, I'm oppressed. It's unfair. I deserve more.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Meanwhile, I just... You know what's funny is because for me, where I grew up, the way I've lived my life, the people I met, I was never surrounded by these ivory tower elites of New York City. And that's the thing about journalists, that these people tend to be, especially in New York, well off from families who are moderately well off. They get access to colleges. Many of them have debt for sure. But the reason, so here's what happens with these media jobs. In order to get a job in New York working in media, because they pay so little to start,
Starting point is 00:40:54 you need your parents, for the most part, to subsidize you. And so what happens is all of these news organizations are basically trust fund kids or something to that effect. And then they're sitting there. Look, I got to tell you, man, there are people who work at BuzzFeed who get paid 50, 60 grand a year, 50. Imagine getting paid 30 to $40 an hour to write about a list of 10 cats that have funny faces.
Starting point is 00:41:16 And then to say, I'm oppressed. Yo, I got some dirt that needs tilling so we can eat food tomorrow. Why don't you come and shovel it and learn what work is? Now, if you remember last year, me and all these other reporters that were on the front lines, we got attacked by the intercept. And my biggest takeaway was like, wait a minute, so we're getting attacked by a journalist who just sits in his Manhattan apartment, who's been given a job because his parents were in Ivy League, to reporters who are on the ground actually talking about the destruction to working class communities.
Starting point is 00:41:48 I'm like, that's actually media right there. It's just a great roundup how it's these elite journalists who really never had to work hard. Mom and dad knows everyone in the industry. And then they get in and they make, like you said, 50 to 60K, 70K just sitting in a Manhattan apartment. And the thing is, they're not even on the ground reporting. They're just reporting from their laptop. That's why they love the lockdowns because they can have wine delivery Uber Eats.
Starting point is 00:42:11 And then I love it when they're like, help, help. I'm being harassed on social media. It's like, oh, too bad. Yeah, man. We've got – it's crazy what the internet has done, and we didn't expect this. But this is one of the things it's done. It's all of these journalists create these online groups, and they all talk to each other, and they're the epitome of ego. That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:42:31 They all think they're the most important people in the world. It's their job to tell people what to think and what to believe. They think they are the most important people in the world, and they look down on the trades. They look down on working-class people. They look down on the people who actually do the jobs to make this machine work. They think it's them. Like, even if they're like, like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:42:51 like to play the devil's advocate, like I would think like they would probably think differently if they like, you know, traveled or like went outside DC, New York, California and actually met people. They're probably good people,
Starting point is 00:43:01 but they just haven't met anyone else who doesn't partake in the information economy or the creator economy. dot com. They're not this. I mean, a lot of them, you know, we're living out in West Virginia, so we understand what work looks like. And there's a lot of journalists who actually go to these foreign countries, go to Brazil, go to Morocco or whatever, talk to people and see what the world is like. And they get it. But we have this issue now where the money is to be made in flashy clickbait listicles and 10 reasons to hate Donald Trump and why Donald Trump is a fascist. And that's the kind of media they produce. So they sit in New York, like you guys mentioned, they're in their apartment. They don't even go to work half the time. And they just type away. Here's why I think Trump's stupid. And they get paid to do it. They call themselves journalists
Starting point is 00:43:57 when half the time it's opinion. Yeah. I like that. Eleanor Roosevelt quote, I think that great minds talk about ideas. Mediocre minds talk about ideas, mediocre minds talk about things, and weak minds talk about people. I find that I've kind of engraved that into my soul. I get almost guilty talking about people. Like, what a waste of time. Why are we wasting our time with this low-quality conversation? But I also took it so extreme that I stopped completely talking about people, and that's a mistake. Because we need to gossip about each other's egos if we're going to manage society.
Starting point is 00:44:27 It's a bunch of egos together. Keep each other in check. But it is not the focus. And when I see CNN making it the focus, that's when I'm like, no, no, no, no. That's why I don't even watch it. And so it's sometimes why I come off ignorant on this show when we talk about what they said. I don't care what – I mean I want to know what they said, but it is not – it's really
Starting point is 00:44:44 dumb people talking about dumb stuff I'll give you an example of what I really don't like and it's just me personally if you like it by all means you but you look at some of these YouTube channels a lot of progressives even some conservative and it's like just ragging on someone like people making videos
Starting point is 00:45:00 specifically about this one guy I don't like and naming him within reason it's fine if you're talking about Joe Biden the president or Congress you're talking about our system of governance specifically about, you know, this one guy I don't like and naming him. Within reason, it's fine if you're talking about Joe Biden, the president or Congress, you're talking about our system of governance and the individuals who have that power. That I understand. But when it's like gossip, you know what I mean? Like you're talking about, I'm not a fan of that stuff. And I'll give you an example.
Starting point is 00:45:17 The other day we're talking about, you know, texts I get from Congress. I'm not going to say their names. It's not them I care about as a person. It's the idea of what they're doing. It's not them I care about as a person. It's the idea of what they're doing. It's the actions they're taking that I have an issue with. Because the way I see it is, even with Joe Biden, you take Joe Biden out of the presidency, any Democrat can replace him and do the exact same thing. And that's a bad thing. So we sit here, if we put all our attention on just Joe Biden, why he's bad. And then he leaves and then Buttigieg gets in.
Starting point is 00:45:45 It will be the exact same thing. No, I completely agree. And then, I mean, just talking about the kind of click-blady stuff, a lot of the kind of left-wing channels really focus on Hassan and Sam Seder. You go on their channel, it's all about, oh, Tim Pool said this, Tim Pool said that. So one of the few people on the left that I actually respect and I think that what he's doing has been crucial for the kind of movement on waking up people is actually Jimmy Dore. I thought – I'm thinking Jimmy Dore is actually – even though he calls himself a democratic socialist or a socialist, he's been on the right side of the issues when it comes to free speech, when it comes to these anti-vaccine mandate stuff, he's telling his viewers, he said, hey, guys, if you're a true populist on the left, then you would never agree with any of this stuff.
Starting point is 00:46:33 It's supposed to be pro-worker to not take the side of the corporations. So he's actually one of the few on that side that's on the right side of this. He's honest. Yeah. Not just that, these creators and realize the pattern right so they know uh what kind of content if when i if and when i make gets incentivized by youtube or twitch whatever platform they're working with right so they know for a fact that if they quote unquote punch up right you know punch up at, punch up at Timpo, punch up at Joe Rogan, for example.
Starting point is 00:47:05 They know that there's no way that YouTube's not going to push that content up, right? So that whole system kind of is like a feedback loop. Oh, wow. It keeps feeding itself. The names become part of the algorithm. Correct. Oh, yeah, absolutely. There's a really fascinating thing I was reading.
Starting point is 00:47:21 I don't know who was saying it. Maybe it was you. They said that they're watching a video where a kid said they were playing like Fortnite, and the kid said, whoa, he almost just unalived me. And the reason the kid said unalived, unalived, is because if you say kill, YouTube downranks you and hides your content. Oh, my gosh. So kids are changing the way they speak. That's brainwashing humanity, man.
Starting point is 00:47:43 That's dangerous. Yes, it is. Teaching kids to be counterdependent on ideas is so, so bad. You need to focus on the idea and then focus on a different idea that's better than that old one,
Starting point is 00:47:54 not on hating the old one. I think, actually, this would be a really good idea. We should task someone with writing shadow English, a way to speak on YouTube that bypasses the algorithm. That's like the plot of 1984.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Or part of it. It was like a second dictionary. Dictionary to get monetized. Yeah, right. You can't say any of the dodgy words and all the words. That would be a bad idea. That's a good idea. None of the funny words exist on that dictionary.
Starting point is 00:48:18 And then you are safe for your whole life that your videos will make money. What if you're like, this is the new alphabet written by Alphabet. And they give you a new alphabet? Brought to you by Google. A, B, and C are no longer letters. These are the new letters. I've been seeing a lot of political YouTubers, like let's say, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:31 they're talking about something controversial. They always have to say at the end of their controversial take, hey guys, I just want to let you know the CDC says this and, you know, we're going to go by this. I mean, they only have to say that to not get banned,
Starting point is 00:48:41 but that's where we are right now in society. I mean, YouTube has editorial guidelines you have to follow. say that to not get banned but that's where we are right now in society i mean youtube has editorial guidelines you have to follow i don't see how they should be protected under section 230 if they issue editorial guidelines they they if you issue editorial guidelines then you are certifying what is being published i have a friend who runs a bodybuilding channel and he was trying to talk about arnold and he said arnold schwarzer n word no for real yeah you can't say his name no yeah keemstar had this had this issue happened where he said the word and i'm gonna be very careful how i say it right e dash yeah girl dash girl. When you say that fast, it sounds like a type of N-word
Starting point is 00:49:28 and he got demonetized. And he posts and he's like, look at what, because the YouTube caption system had him saying a specific slur. Because it auto-generates captions. Yeah, so you don't know. Because it's,
Starting point is 00:49:40 he said, he said, hold on, hold on, hold on. She said, she's an E-girl. Now I get it. And when you put that all together very quickly, the YouTube captioning system thought that was a racial slur. So the caption, is that the official transcript of what the AI is getting? I don't know if there's a direct correlation between the AI that's –
Starting point is 00:50:07 I don't know if the AI that captions the word is the same that flags the slurs. What is going on? Cameron, Richie McGinnis, ladies and gentlemen, gesticulating wild. He's trying to be a good caddy. He is a very good caddy. Getting a beer for somebody? I think if one recognizes the word, the other, whether there's a difference or not, that's it.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Yeah, I would imagine it would flag it to the other program if there's... If there is another program, it might be the same one. Yeah, another big thing too was on January 6th, you had kind of some left-wing media groups like Status Coup, where all they did was actually just live stream what happened on J6. Literally no commentary, no opinion, like literally just video. And YouTube would demonetize their account, but then StatusCoup would then sell that same footage to like CNN and MSNBC, Fox News,
Starting point is 00:50:55 and then YouTube would prop up those accounts. So that's another thing too where it's like they're also aiming at independent news channels, whether you're left or right, they're coming after you. And that was like one thing that I was pretty shocked by, where Status Coup, the same footage that they're getting banned and getting strikes on YouTube, they sell it to CNN, and then YouTube props up CNN's channel. The same content.
Starting point is 00:51:16 They won't ban it on CNN's version. And look, in Status Coup, all they did was live stream. I mean, I'm talking about no commentary, no this and that, just straight video footage. And they obviously put it on YouTube because it's a moment in history. And they sold it to ABC News, CNN, MSNBC. And they came out and said, hey, guys, we're getting banned and demonetized for the same footage that we sold to the mainstream guys. But the mainstream guys actually get propped up by YouTube.
Starting point is 00:51:39 I'd like to know in like a conversation with YouTube admins or Google admins, is it that you believe CNN is more valuable and more legitimate or are you just kind of like you know they're trash anyway but you're just playing along because that's where the money is? Well, Ian, what was it you said yesterday that everyone said you rolled a 20 on? Like eight things. The first one. I don't remember. You said something about a liberal economic order.
Starting point is 00:52:02 Oh, the liberal economic order. Yeah, and I looked into that a little bit last night too. Well, I don't want to go off on a tangent. I'm just saying you're asking a question about why CNN is being propped up. Oh, it's part of the liberal international order, the US rules-based economy. Could it be that there is a cabal? Oh, shocking. That they created literally in 1946 that Eisenhower told us, hey, we created a military industrial complex, FYI.
Starting point is 00:52:26 That's why I love Eisenhower because he just blatantly was honest about it on his last speech. And almost like, I'm so sorry. Yeah, he was. In order to prevent World War III, we're going to be the world police now. Sorry. Don't let it get out of hand because it's about to. Imagine where we would be without YouTube and Facebook and Twitter, though, to be honest. Whether it was intentional or accidental, whatever happened, we, using the internet, got a lot of voices. We're able to come up, speak up, gain access, get the microphone. They may be freaking out about it now,
Starting point is 00:52:54 but the cat's out of the bag, and I don't think they can restrain it anymore. I mean, they're trying really hard with censorship, but look at Rumble. The censorship is being broken, and people are finding a way through. Satellite very promising we'll be beaming video from mars to earth and also where it's also an interesting time in kind of journalism and news because for the first time ever i think in our history the corporate press doesn't have total control of the narrative and i thought one of the biggest examples of that was the kyle rittenhouse situation and you know obviously i was getting you know media requests with you requests with Fox News and all these channels, and any time I would go on, I said,
Starting point is 00:53:27 obviously what's going on with Rittenhouse is a big case for self-defense. We know that. I'm not trying to understate that. But in my opinion, I thought it was a bigger case for how important that independent journalism is because if it wasn't for all those guys on the ground on that night in Kenosha where it was Julio Rosas or BG on the scene or Drew Hernandez. We would be stuck with the corporate media narrative. And I think for me, the biggest thing that I was shocked by was the amount of people, even during the Rittenhouse trial, that were contacting me or messaging me saying,
Starting point is 00:53:56 Jorge, I thought Rittenhouse killed black people. I just found out that he didn't. I'm like, that information has been out for a whole year. Let me pull up this story from ABC News. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Ahmaud Arbery Day. That's right. Holiday officially celebrating the second anniversary of the death of Ahmaud Arbery. February 23rd will be permanently recognized as Ahmaud Arbery Day in Georgia.
Starting point is 00:54:21 They say the Ahmaud Arbery Foundation, a mental wellness organization focused on black men that was founded by Arbery's mother, Wanda Cooper Jones, announced the nonprofit will offer six $3,000 scholarships for higher education opportunities to seniors from Arbery's former high school. Now, I want to start by saying that's fantastic. If they're going to give money for kids to scholarships, I'm not a big fan of colleges or anything like that. But if they're trying to genuinely help people, I got no issue there. But talk about the psychotic cult world we live in, in which Ahmaud Arbery is getting a holiday for him. Look, maybe I'll be one of the few people willing to call out as it should be called out. But during the Ahmaud Arbery trial, so we just had the three individuals in question,
Starting point is 00:55:05 McMichaels and that other guy, they're convicted on federal hate crime charges. You've got a story that is very clearly nuanced and contentious, and it is not as clear cut as the establishment and mainstream media tried to say. The fact is the narrative of a guy jogging down the street was a total fabrication, a lie to manipulate people. That brings us to a point where now we're having a holiday for this guy. Look, I'm sad the guy lost his life and all that stuff, but it's not so simple. We can say the McMichaels were wrong. The guy who filmed all of it happening, I don't know why he's going to prison, but sure,
Starting point is 00:55:38 fine, whatever. The fact is, this is the level of insanity in this country. I got to say, so the guy with the camera went to jail, I think, because he had a car and he was behind him and they thought he was part of like pinching the guy in, like blocking the guy in. Okay, if that guy's going to jail for using his car as a weapon, think about these truckers. If they go around D.C. and pin the president in while he's trying to give a speech. Oh, come on, come on. Yeah, come on, come on.
Starting point is 00:56:02 But look what they did to a Montgomery victim. No, it's totally the other situation. It totally is, isn't it? Yeah, the guy with the camera's in jail because he had a car there. Yeah, that's completely... 50 feet away from it. What was the reason he went to jail? Because they said that he was part of it?
Starting point is 00:56:15 We're having a conversation about Ahmaud Arbery. It's a little off topic. It has nothing to do with truckers. Well, the camera guy shouldn't have gone to jail. I don't think that guy should have went to jail. He should not have. But they said that he was pinning Ahmed Arbery in, basically. He was blocking him from getting away.
Starting point is 00:56:28 And he in no way coordinated with the other man, but it didn't matter because we live in a psychotic cult reality where lunatics, the inmates, are running the asylum. I mean, I don't know how he got to this day faster than George Floyd did. Is there a George Floyd day or not? I don't even know if there's even a George Floyd day.
Starting point is 00:56:44 But the fact that Arbery got it quicker than him, Yeah, what's up? Is there a George Floyd day or not? I don't know. Yeah, I don't even know if there's even a George Floyd day yet. But the fact that Aubrey got it quicker than him, I think. Look at this. The Georgia General Assembly passed a resolution on February 2nd to permanently declare February 23rd to be Ahmaud Arbery Day. You know, I don't know. Look, man, I'm all about justice. I don't like racists. If a group of guys are chasing down a dude who's jogging because he's black, I want to see justice. If they kill him, lock those people up. You go to prison for that, but that's not what happened. The media lied about everything.
Starting point is 00:57:16 And you know what's funny is conservatives, many of them, not all of them, but a lot of them are complicit in pushing this narrative. And it's fascinating. We've heard it before, but I genuinely think a lot of Republicans, they try and act like they oppose the Democrats, but they're so worried about not being, they're so worried about what the left thinks of them. Stepping out, yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, what, we see Fox News, we saw even, you know, Tulsi Gabbard, I guess she's a progressive, but all of these people are coming out being like, see what happened here in Georgia was right. And I'm like, what? How are you going to come out and be like what happened
Starting point is 00:57:52 to Kyle Rittenhouse was wrong and the media lied and now believe the media on this story when it was just patently false? What happened? The story is, I'll simplify it for you. A string of robberies in a neighborhood. Gun gets stolen. Police go door to door saying this is the guy with an image of him. He's seen on security camera footage entering someone's house. The prosecutor said that makes him a felony burglary suspect. Under Georgia law, you can citizens arrest someone without probable cause or with only probable cause without actually witnessing it if they're committing a felony based on the judge's jury instruction he said i don't know you figured out and so the jury decided
Starting point is 00:58:29 to go the other way and say they needed to be witnesses that's the nuance here as per why these guys got convicted were the jury instructions correct but the story about a guy jogging down the street complete lie complete lie and now the georgia general assembly is giving this dude a a statewide holiday didn't the guy whatever man didn't wasn't the guy wearing work boots yeah something like that wearing work boots they said he was jogging i mean come on you don't got you know what it is it's that literally abc says he was killed while jogging in this same art there is several witnesses that came out and spoke on record that they suspect that it was it was a month because they've already kind of seen some of the previous behavior leading up to that moment.
Starting point is 00:59:08 That it was a what? That they believe that it was Aubrey doing some of the trespassing. According to some of the neighbors. It wasn't Trenches Burglary. Yeah, Burglary. So I made this mistake and we had a lawyer on. We had, I think it was Andrew Branca as well as another lawyer. I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Who did we have on with Branca? Which one? Who else? Anyway. Cash Patel? Was it Branca? Who else? Anyway. Cash Patel? Was it Cash? Right, right, right. And he was a prosecutor.
Starting point is 00:59:29 So I said trespassing, and they said he wasn't a trespassing suspect. When you enter someone's – so I'll tell you guys what we're dealing with. We had a guy drive past two no trespassing signs up a 1,000- foot driveway and then enter our house. That is, I think it's, what is it, fourth degree burglary? That's it. Oh, wow, okay. When you break a barrier,
Starting point is 00:59:52 when you cross a barrier, it's burglary, at least in Maryland. So when they're saying this guy was trespassing, no, no, no, no, no. Trespassing is if he stepped on the grass and a sign said no trespassing. Then they can be like,
Starting point is 01:00:04 you knew the sign there. You shouldn't have done it by entering the building. It was now felony burglary. So look, don't think the guy should be dead. Don't think we should have a holiday for him either. Also, this is crazy. They're encouraging communities to quote run with mod by running 2.23 miles annually on this day.
Starting point is 01:00:21 This is from the article. Literally, if the guy is actually running from a burglary and they want to make a day, encourage people to do a run with the guy who was running from a burglary he just committed, how upside down is this reality that they've got people confused like this? I don't get it.
Starting point is 01:00:38 If you want to have a holiday for a Malcolm X, then of course. They're putting up statues of George Floyd. Let me tell you guys something. This is a story that blows my mind. Thank you. What? You're probably going to say something
Starting point is 01:00:53 that's going to blow my mind. I love it. I love how you already said thank you. There was a building with a mural of George Floyd wearing a crown. Oh, yes. And a storm.
Starting point is 01:01:05 It was partly cloudy. And a single lightning strike hit only the mural on the side of the building where George Floyd's face was that blew off. Only the outer portion of the wall, the inner wall, remained intact.
Starting point is 01:01:19 The roof was undamaged. Witnesses saw the lightning strike. It was reported by meteorologists. How the... does that happen? Metallic paint is all I got. But only the George Floyd? I guess. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:31 The whole building was a mural. Like if they just painted his face with some sort of metallic paint. They just blasted off all the metal. Or, I don't know, man. But the roof wasn't damaged. You know what I want to say? And the lightning typically strikes chimneys. I don't want to glorify people because they got killed.
Starting point is 01:01:46 I want to glorify them because of what they did in their life. And if they happen to have been killed unjustly, that's a big part of it. But these rando people that got off is not like we celebrate. Okay, thank you. You pointed it out. You celebrate Malcolm X for what he did in his life, not for getting shot. It's what
Starting point is 01:02:02 he did in his life that matters. But look, man, they tear down statues of Hans Christian Hegg. They tear down statues of great civil rights leaders. Even Frederick Douglass. Teddy Roosevelt in New York City. They took that one. One of my heroes, man.
Starting point is 01:02:17 But Frederick Douglass? A lot of applause. Dude, it's amazing. One of the most epic Americans in the history of this country. He challenged Americans. This is the pre-Civil. Yeah, he is. One of the most epic Americans in the history of this country. He challenged Americans. This is the pre-Civil War era, he said. Are you going to live up to the words you wrote in your own constitution? And that's like smack down, yo.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Like, do you really believe? I can't stand hypocrisy. If you're going to come out and say all men are created equal, we believe in civil rights and liberty, he's going to be like, okay, I challenge you to uphold that. It's brilliant. And they tore his statue down up in Rochester. Now they want to put up holidays for George Floyd statues and murals, holiday for Ahmaud Arbery, and the Georgia General Assembly votes this in? I don't know if you've seen that one story, Tim. It was actually the Daily Signal.
Starting point is 01:03:01 One of our good friends, Mary Margaret, broke the story. There was a Catholic church that had a mural of George Floyd, but as a saint. And I was like, wait, wait, what are we doing now? It's a cult. He had five drugs in his system, according to the corner. And they had George Floyd as a saint. He was chewing a speedball. The dude should not have lost his life. Driving his family around high.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Come on. The guy was behind the wheel of a car high as hell let's celebrate all this all this movement to like name a day after ahmad are uh putting sane before george floyd this just takes whatever you think of the case cases in this case just takes the nuance out of the discussion like five years from now 10 years from now when you look at a statue of george floyd or realize that oh today's ahmad arboree day then you probably by default start thinking that they probably must have done something like like good in their life right or maybe you know they didn't and you're like i want to be a saint how can i become a saint i want to be like that guy so what it does it just whitewashes the whole incident or just again like removes any sort of like gray point gray area from the discussion like these were good people who were killed unjustly that's it let's play a game
Starting point is 01:04:16 trayvon martin story initially reported boy lies in fact i can't remember which media outlet it was they actually edited the 911 call from George Zimmerman To make it seem like he was racist You remember that? They asked him George Zimmerman says he's a suspicious looking guy And they ask him what race is he And he goes, I think he's black
Starting point is 01:04:35 They cut that part out So it's just George Zimmerman saying A suspicious looking guy, I think he's black That was the sole reason They claim Zimmerman's a white dude He's Latino Then you've got, let's see michael brown hands up don't shoot not true right what else do we have we have uh we have obviously ahmed arbore he was just jogging not true george floyd not true police footage gets released brianna taylor brianna taylor not true
Starting point is 01:04:59 none of it is true these people are evil are liars. They are trying to manipulate you to take power. They do these things because it is part of their psychotic culture revolution. Look, we can look at it like a zombie horde, an aimless horde of people who are doing random things for no reason. That may be the case. But if that is the case, then there is a chaotic malignancy growing in this country that is gutting it and destroying it. Yeah, we have traditions for heroes like Frederick Douglass and Harriet Tubman, who did then there is a chaotic malignancy growing in this country that is gutting it and destroying it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:29 We have traditions for heroes like Frederick Douglass and Harriet Tubman, who did amazing things that we are all proud of and brag about. Yo, we had people going out like Harriet Tubman was apparently like a badass. She had a gun and she was like super well-trained with how to shoot and everything like that, leading people to freedom. And we're like, that's what we care about. We care about freedom. Frederick Douglass, as I already explained, these are the statues.
Starting point is 01:05:52 I think Hans Christian Haag was, my understanding, is not even American. He fought for the North because slavery was a moral evil. He died when he was 30. They tore his statue down. It's not, it has nothing to do with racism. It has everything to do with erasing and destroying our heroes, our champions, our traditions. It's called erasism. This stuff just, man, it makes my blood boil.
Starting point is 01:06:14 I think if they had been honest about George Floyd having all those drugs in his system and behind the wheel of a car with his family in the car, it would still be equally as tragic and worth talking about, but it would be a different conversation. We'd be talking tragic and worth talking about but it would be a different conversation we'd be talking about drug addiction and how that is a big problem fentanyl addiction
Starting point is 01:06:28 oh we gotta give an honorable mention to Jussie Smollett oh boy oh man that's the biggest congrats Jussie I'm shocked he hasn't gotten like a Netflix series
Starting point is 01:06:37 is he not in prison? can we hold on a minute I'm surprised CNN hasn't given him like a role how come no one's done commentator how come no one's made a Jussie Smollett story?
Starting point is 01:06:46 Have they done – like assuming the story is real and then dramatizing the incident in question and make like – you know how they're doing the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air drama? Oh, I heard. That's so ridiculous. But – The Smollett thing was like embarrassing on multiple levels to like even for them to like sugarcoat it. I know. I just think.
Starting point is 01:07:05 You know, can we fund this? Can we do like. Like a satire of it, yeah? No, no, no. Totally legit dramatization of his story. Like as if it actually happened. Frame by frame. Like him getting out of the subway and the guys pulling up.
Starting point is 01:07:18 You might need to change the names. And then I think you'd be okay. Juicy. J-Dog. Juicy Smolyay. J-Dog. We'll call him this guy J-Dog. J-Dog.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Yeah. And I guess it would be better if we did it as a parody because then like he's in Chicago at 3 a.m. It's 20 degrees out and then like two fat deliverance kind of guys are like,
Starting point is 01:07:36 look at this pretty boy. Walk up and then it's like, he's like, oh no, it's Trump supporters and they're like, go Trump and then they start attacking him or whatever.
Starting point is 01:07:44 I wouldn't believe the more if he would just say that like Kanye attacked him at two in the morning in chicago i'm like that's more believable khan is being out of pocket shit all the time yeah but but but it is i mean at least kanye's like from he's from the he's from he has a reason to be there he's also bipolar so you don't know he probably walks the streets in the middle of the night yo man at a certain point i'm just like do these people really believe this stuff do you see that that that canadian mp who said that honk honk is an abbreviation for oh like hi i don't even want to say it oh my god yeah that's what she said and i just i saw that and
Starting point is 01:08:16 i'm like dude no sane person believes that's true and anybody who claims to is lying to you and also that's like offensive to jew people, too. It's like, oh my god, the Hong Kong. What if there was a Jewish drug driver? So I feel like that's also offensive to the Jewish community. Big problem with demonizing language. I would love to not do that. Do you think we can make all the words okay again?
Starting point is 01:08:37 No. You know we're never going back now. Really? You think the humanity is that lost? That our language has been that distorted forever? Dude, look at what they're doing to the Spanish language. But think about it. Even in this conversation, we can't say certain words. And I guess I'm already brainwashed to think that words mean certain things and they don't really have to.
Starting point is 01:08:56 What? Just because I was told that English means what it means doesn't mean that it has to mean that. Sure, but words are basically... They're tools to describe that. Sure. But words are basically, um, they're, they're, they're tools to describe things. So if we all agree, racism means something it's so that we can convey ideas to each other. The left plays semantic games on purpose to confuse you. So you don't know how to communicate properly. It's kind of like this. You're fighting someone, right? If you are, uh, the honorable
Starting point is 01:09:24 samurai, then you approach honorably from actually no no let's let's do this the american revolution you are the british regular approaching the battlefield with honor and the americans are hiding in the brush and they jump out and just ambush you that's what the left is doing they're doing guerrilla tactics and politics they are trying to make sure you are confused and tripped up and don't know how to engage and it's right it seems almost random. Like one day a new word will have some other connotation or be associated with it. Or my favorite is Wemixin.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Oh, boy. Yeah, you remember this? They changed women with an E to an X, and they said it was inclusive. How do you even say that out loud? What did you say? Wemixin. Wemixin? No, it's W-I-M-I-X-I-N, so Wemixin.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Oh, Wemixin. Confusing as hell. So youO-M, accent. So Wimixin. Oh, Wimixin. Confusing as hell. So it's – you could say woman or you can say Wimixin. They also said you could say Wimix, which makes no sense because it would be Wimskin. That's so funny. Wimixin. Because you imagine being a guy at a bar and you just walk up to a girl like, you are the finest woman, Exin. I've seen it.
Starting point is 01:10:22 Wimixin. You are speaking my language. So check it out imagine imagine you're you're you're fighting someone right here's what here's what we're doing in this political battle we're approaching right up front we're walking right up to them and saying here's my argument and then all of a sudden some guy jumps out from behind us with a bolas and throws it and tangles up our feet we fall down and they run away laughing they're they're playing these games remember when um the brett weinstein thing happened up in uh it was it was seattle or what evergreen college yeah just outside of seattle i think it was right
Starting point is 01:10:54 and when the when the administrators were trying to talk one of the students goes don't wave your hands at us it's racist so he stops and then they all start laughing at him. They're not serious people. They're playing a power game. And so they'll say, oh, Latinx, Latinx or whatever. Like, no, no. Like, was it 3% of Spanish people identify with using those terms, using those words? What does that even mean? No, I mean, that's like the funniest thing to me because it's like, you know, obviously I'm Latino.
Starting point is 01:11:22 But just being, you know, I couldn't even imagine some, like liberal going out going out to my dad and being like you're a latin x and my dad's like uh all right okay you speak spanish yeah can you can you speak spanish putting an x at the end of any any any gendered word like if it's going to have an o or an a it's got to be x i don't know i don't even think you could even even do that but that. It would be the most insane thing ever to try and speak that way. I mean, it's just the Latinx thing is probably the most funniest thing to me because it's like you have these white liberal kids who go to college at these universities telling working class Latinos what they should be called. And the thing is that these Latinos are like, hey, you're a Latinx.
Starting point is 01:11:59 They're like, look, man, I just got to get back to work. I got to pay bills. I'm not even in this discussion. No, they just go gay? what are you talking about? what is Latinx? I guess it's a term made by white liberals
Starting point is 01:12:16 white Germanic language speaking liberals so it's like a version of taking the non-binary out of it so you can't say Latino or Latina. So Latino is male. Spanish language is very gendered. So, like, for instance, like, if you say, like, Ese es mi hijo.
Starting point is 01:12:36 That's my son. Ese es mi hija. That's my daughter. So everything is like that. Everything is gendered. So it's so weird that I don't know why they wanted it. You know, why not make the Asians say Asian X or something? I don't know why.
Starting point is 01:12:46 Hey, you know what? And I want to say this too. I want to say I think that Spanish is sexist against men. You know why? Let me ask you a question, Jorge. What does niñas mean? It's girls. Like little girls.
Starting point is 01:13:01 Yeah. Like children. Yeah. Okay, what does niños mean? Like little boys. Or? Niños? Yeah. Okay, what does niños mean? Like little boys. Boys. Or? Niños?
Starting point is 01:13:08 Yeah. Oh, I see where you're going. What else could it mean? It could also be kids. You could also be like, hey, these are those niños. You could be like, oh, these are kids. So let me ask you. Like all girls.
Starting point is 01:13:16 If there was a group of 10 boys and 10 girls all playing, how would you describe that? Niños? Niños. So hold on a minute. You mean to tell me that in the Spanish language, girls get their own special words and can use the masculine as well? Well, that sounds like they get special privileges. Special descriptors that the males don't get.
Starting point is 01:13:38 I'm kidding, by the way. Is there some value to removing gender from the language? How? Well, Mussolini was like the national river of Italy was feminine. And he was like, no, we are a strong masculine country. And he would change it to a masculine word. And then they changed the word. Just ninixes. Is that necessary, that kind of psychological power? In Arabic, they actually change the language when they talk to a girl.
Starting point is 01:14:04 They use different words for women. I didn't know that. Yeah. Migatex. Bocus. What are you going to do to get rid of the gendered language? Just change the word? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:14:14 Migat. You can use the same word. You don't have to. No, no. We have different words for man and woman. Who cares that Latin romance languages are gendered? Well, like you said, it says if there's a boy and a girl playing together, you'd refer to them as with the male word.
Starting point is 01:14:28 It's kind of like, why? Why do you have it there to begin with? What are you going to say, ninixes? Children. Kids. So you see, this is the problem with the progressives, telling Spanish speakers the words they have to use because they're politically incorrect.
Starting point is 01:14:40 Where does it come from? It comes from Latin, right? The gender stuff? Yeah, romance languages. So even French and Italian and Portuguese, they have gendered language as well. Yeah, it all comes from Latin. And that was a highly patriarchal society. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:14:54 Maybe there's something to it. Maybe the progressives are right and Spanish people should just speak the way they're told. Maybe the Romans built the Catholic Church and patriarchal language on purpose. How is this not the epitome of white supremacy that white wealthy liberals are telling working class Spanish people that their language is wrong? Yeah, it feels pretty white knight-y.
Starting point is 01:15:16 That's why I'm glad the polling shows it only has like 2% to 3% support. So it's not working. And it's a huge turnoff. As a native speaker of spanish you don't think there's any you have you ever thought like that's weird or anything i mean to me it's completely normal i think i mean like i said i mean i've been raised like that it's a completely normal thing um yeah i mean that's to me that like i said the the latinx i mean all it does
Starting point is 01:15:41 is actually just hurt the left side because it just turns off those voters. And the polling shows that. And I think a lot of people forget that a lot of these immigrant families, whether they're coming from Latin America or from China or India, they're even more conservative than your American conservative. So when you push this type of language, it's a huge turnoff. And then all of a sudden those same parents are like, wait a minute, this is a little weird. And they put their kids in public school. And then now they see that their kids are being taught, you know, transgenderism and kind of sexualized education. It's a huge turnoff. And that one thing that me and Sonny kind of investigated a little bit last year was all that, you know, sexual education or Latinx and stuff like that,
Starting point is 01:16:19 that actually led to the Republican win in Virginia for Glenn Youngkin in that parent uprising. I think if you watch mainstream media, you would have thought like, oh, man, all those parents in Loudoun County are white supremacist parents. The majority of them are like Salvadoran and Indian parents who are like, we don't want this. It looks like Jersey up there. Well, do you guys remember? I think it was in Birmingham in the UK.
Starting point is 01:16:40 A bunch of devout Muslims came out to protest the schools because the schools were doing LGBTQ curriculum. And that created a really weird conflict because then all of a sudden you had these LGBT activists coming out, walking up to niqab-wearing women, being like, we're doing this for you. And they're like, we hate you. Stop this. And it's just like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:17:00 I have been to Birmingham, and it's the funny thing. When you walk the streets, there are particular areas where you can tell that Bangladeshi people or Muslim people live here. And they live their own lives. They don't want to be bothered. They have their own little small mom-and-pop shops, and they send their kids to the same public school where the rest of the Birmingham people go. And they just want to be left alone, right? And up comes the – like in the UK, public education is completely, completely different than the States insofar as that thinking of, like, LGBT stuff and thinking about, you know, races, like, race stuff is so part of their curriculum, right, from the get-go. So, but these people are not used to that so when you try to teach a bangladeshi
Starting point is 01:17:47 second generation kid that hey you got to use this language hey you can't say that thing hey there is no boy and girl and he comes back and tells his parents it's just like a whole different environment like you think that that stuff is awkward in the States, but in UK there is like no conservative political ground up school movement like Turning Point or whatever in UK. So like there's no representation of like the other side of thinking. So the immigration, the immigrant population is just like in a really like no man's land there. I was thinking how this thought has a bit escaped me. I was thinking, firstly, odd that the British Empire is not pushing back against this stuff. I would like to see them do that.
Starting point is 01:18:30 No, it's their policy. It is legit their policy. Why is it their policy? But what's happening, maybe a lot of these activists, the people that are pushing these things, are childless people trying to parent other humans. Because when you're an adult, your kid starts crying. I know you're sad. I know you're sad. I know you're upset, but I'm doing this for your own good.
Starting point is 01:18:48 And they may actually be doing that because you're taming a wild one. You're basically like, you can't eat all this sugar. I know it's sad. I know it sucks, but trust me. So these people are doing it for other people. I know it's not the language you're used to,
Starting point is 01:18:58 but trust me, it's for your own good. Have some kids. Gain some humility. Stop trying to control people. I was thinking about this. Why don't you just Let the kid eat the Tube of cookie dough
Starting point is 01:19:06 No no for real Because it's addictive No no because a kid Would barf all over himself And be like I never want to do it again No but then they keep eating it They go back to it
Starting point is 01:19:13 Like a dog pukes And then they keep eating it Hey that's my experience I learned my lesson man When I I remember I moved to LA And I was hungry And I ate a whole pizza to myself
Starting point is 01:19:20 And I was like That was so good And then I got sick And I was like I'm never doing this again Oh I made a mistake And I was an adult When that happened oh i was i made that mistake as a kid over and over and over again but but i think there is there is a point there it's uh because it's it's what we've said before uh the the socialists don't have kids they have yours correct like uh
Starting point is 01:19:38 if you think about it like from that analogy like you treat your family as like a commune right you treat your friend group as a socialist circle the wider you go the more right-wing thing you go like you treat the country as like you want to get the best out of people so you want there's there needs to be like a capitalist structure but for someone who doesn't have a kid or family or friends for that matter they want to enforce their control over the next immediate group of people that they see. And in this case, that's the rest of the citizen of the country.
Starting point is 01:20:10 Yeah, it's probably naturally satisfying to have a little bit of communism, a little bit of socialism. Correct. Yeah, because you have a right side of your brain and a left side of your brain. You need that balance just to be a functioning human being. And you use the left way of thinking for the people who you actually care about or you have something to share with like the people from your same religious circle uh or your family or your friends or your family but the people who you do not know like strangers you just want the best
Starting point is 01:20:37 out of each other so you think of them like hey let's be symbiotic and you get the best out of me and i get the best out of you and there's money involved so there so there comes like a capitalist way of thinking but if you don't have any kids family or like a religious circle you don't have anyone to use that left way of thinking on so you subject that on the rest of the people have you guys uh seen those groomer bills they haven't i think Florida banned them. It was like the schools wanted to groom children into various ideas or whatever. I'm saying that very specifically. I'm using the phrase groomer on purpose because what the left is really effective at is propaganda.
Starting point is 01:21:19 What they're saying is they're calling it don't say gay. You've heard of that wait what's i don't know that what's that so it's just their bill saying that schools shouldn't be having uh like sex ed for kids as part of the curriculum should be something special or not in schools at all should be something the parents decide and that's you know my attitude on it is like yeah i don't know the parents should figure out if they want to talk to their kids about this stuff so the left has very um they're good at this stuff. They call it the don't say gay. So that's clearly not what the bill is.
Starting point is 01:21:49 But now all of a sudden that's what the left is putting out there. And when I say groomer bill, you guys are like, huh? What's that? It's because the right is ineffective at messaging. They don't have any of that stuff. But in these schools, indoctrination is the key to what the left is doing. They don't have kids. They have yours, which means if they can get your kids to believe whatever they believe
Starting point is 01:22:11 in 20 years, this country will be whatever their ideology is. It's starting with millennials, all the stuff rising up. And you're right on point, Tim. We actually did, me and Simon, we produced our second documentary. It was called Indoctrination Nation where we looked at critical race theory in the state of Virginia, specifically Loudoun County. One of the things that I was shocked about was that these kids would be like 12 years old and they would go to the library and their librarian would tell them,
Starting point is 01:22:38 hey, you should read this book. It's called Rick. And Rick will be a story about a girl who then transitioned into a boy. And all this is happening without the parents knowledge. It wasn't until those kids come actually home and say, hey, mom, this is what I learned. And then, you know, the parents look at it like, wait, wait, what? So it's a little bit of actually that. It's that, you know, indoctrination at a very young age.
Starting point is 01:23:00 And it's doing behind the parents back also in in my home state of california we had a state assembly member by the name of scott wiener who actually is introducing a bill which actually might pass which is scary a bill that's going to lower lower the age of vaccination consent down from the age of 18 down to 12 years old so could you imagine that if you're a 12 year old 13 year old if your mom says you can't get vaccinated or you know because obviously she's your parent but now you could finally go behind your parents' back and still do this and give more power to the state. Look, I got to say I blame a lot of the parents, 100 percent. I can't tell you how many stories I've heard where it's like I sent my daughter to college and now she hates me.
Starting point is 01:23:38 And it's like why would you do that? Why would you not pay attention to what you were doing to your children? Look, I get it, man. These cult weirdos are the problem. But I got to say to parents out there, you didn't look into the school. You didn't go and visit. You didn't ask about the curriculum. You didn't check in on what other people are going to the school are doing
Starting point is 01:23:58 and what they're planning and what's happened to their lives. You're not doing any research. It's crazy to me how many parents are like, I just put my kid in school and forget about it. And then when their kid comes back, I'm like, I can't believe you're not doing any research it's crazy to me how many parents are like i just put my kid in school and forget about it and then when their kid comes back i'm like i can't believe you're learning this did you not take any active role in what's happening to your kids that that version of for lack of a better word helicopter parenting is kind of a privilege if you think about it right so if there's a helicopter parenting it's like for kind of a privilege if you think about it, right? So if there's a – Wait, wait, wait. Helicopter parenting? It's for lack of a better word I said. Well, I'm not talking about parents like micromanaging their kids' lives.
Starting point is 01:24:34 I'm talking about their parents knowing about the college they're sending their kids to instead of being like, I signed the paper. Bye. It's like shouldn't you be like, I looked into these schools. Here's what I think is best. Good luck to you. That's fair. But what I'm trying to say is like that's not possible for, you know, a family who's just trying to get by or like a single mom who's working a job already and who's just sending their kid to public school expecting that everything's going to be an autopilot. Like that's not possible for her. Where did this idea come from?
Starting point is 01:25:09 Because it's a new idea that you could use schools as a daycare center and you weren't responsible for what, you know, oh, I thought the schools, the government indoctrinate institutional. I thought the government's institutionalized learning facilities was going to teach my kid to be responsible adults who got good jobs. Did it ever occur to anybody that when the government is subsidizing an institutionalized learning facility, the number one function of any entity is to preserve itself. So they're going to indoctrinate your kids to want to preserve their machine. If you want your kids to retain your values, you are responsible and no one else. And if you send your kids to these colleges, you are responsible for them coming back with shaved heads and like pierced eyes or something but like what would you say to
Starting point is 01:25:46 a mom like that who doesn't have any other option than to send her kid to a public school um i think that uh the challenge today is how luxurious we all live excuse me you go back 100 years this wasn't an issue you know uh well maybe a little bit more than 100 i would say even when i was in high school wasn't an issue i mean i wasn't getting getting taught the stuff that these kids i mean basic stuff you were still in an institutionalized learning facility absolutely your teachers had liberal left left lefty values even going back 20 or 30 years conservative parents put their kids in schools and the kids came out liberal it's just that liberal has gone further and further left as a recent history. So, and the internet has really
Starting point is 01:26:27 accelerated this, but there was a period where parents didn't have refrigerators, didn't have cell phones, didn't have the internet, didn't have cars and life sucked. But as much as it did relative to today, they would take responsibility for their kids. Their kids would work with them. The problem now is when someone says I have to have a job, well, it's because you want to maintain modern living standards, which I totally get and respect. Who wouldn't? Who wants to go live in a cave and try and forage for berries? Not to mention it's really hard because property is basically owned by everybody. But there is the big challenge. The system is ossifying around you to such a degree you will have no choice but to send your kids to institutionalized learning facilities where they will be taught to hate you, hate everything about you and your family and your history, your country and your culture.
Starting point is 01:27:13 And if you don't like it, too bad because your job is more important. Living in a house with air conditioning and a refrigerator absolutely is more important. And I mean that. You're going to starve to death. You're going to have no food. You're going to have dirty drinking water and live on the streets. No, you're going to have to live in this system as prescribed. And that means the state will own your kids unless you can figure something out, unless you stand up and you vote. And like we saw in Virginia,
Starting point is 01:27:37 Youngkin comes in or whatever. So I'm not saying it's the end. It's not. I'm just saying this is the system that has been built all around us. And it is a terrifying one because how do you escape it when you are trapped in it? You can't just go to the woods as much as I might jokingly say, like, get out there and go to the forest. I mean, like, you literally can't just live off the land anymore. It's owned by everybody. There's rules. There's laws and regulations. If you are well off enough and you save up enough money, you can buy land in the middle of nowhere it's not impossible you can buy a house out in West Virginia for 100k you get a loan
Starting point is 01:28:08 you put down a thousand bucks if you get a good loan there you go move out there you'll work a lot more life won't be as easy but at least you'll know your kids will retain your values and won't come back with their heads shaved
Starting point is 01:28:19 believing insane things I was looking at the history of public education modern education in the American system comes from a guy named John Dewey he was looking at the history of public education, modern education in the American system. It comes from a guy named John Dewey. He was one of the founders of what's called the progressive education movement. And he believed that schools, this is from Wikipedia, that were not only a place for students to gain content knowledge, but also a place for them to learn how to live.
Starting point is 01:28:39 So to this day, the schools are still teaching people, kids, how to think. And I agree, teaching kids how to learn is important. But when you're teaching them how to think as in like how to be racist, I think the aberration has grown bigger than the product at this point. I mean, I think maybe I'm wrong here, but at the end of the day, all this still goes down to the parents. So even if at the end of the day, with the world that we're living in here in America, you're going to send out your kids to this, whether it's woke as leftist stuff at school, work, it's going to be all around them. So it's up to the family to kind of build those structure and values
Starting point is 01:29:16 before you kind of head out to the real world. That's just my opinion. I think what my parents did with me, I think, helped me out. So when I went to the real world, saw some of this stuff, I'm like, oh, no, F that. So when I went out to the real world, one thing that was getting taught a lot when I was in community college was the white privilege thing. So I would have white professors or white other students tell me how I'm oppressed. And I'm like, no, I'm not. My dad's an immigrant who escaped the Civil War.
Starting point is 01:29:40 He just taught me that I have to work hard, and that's how I get ahead. We're not not ahead because we're not white or anything. So I think it's – at the end of the day, no matter with all the propaganda around us and everything, it still just comes down to mom and dad and the values that you're getting taught in your household. Yeah. I can't imagine that the school's job is to teach people how to learn – how to live. Come on. John Dewey says the school is the place for them to learn how to live. That's the parent's job is to teach their kids how to live.
Starting point is 01:30:04 I never heard the word white privilege until I was like 19 years old, 20 years old. Just because it's just my house. I was never taught that. My mom and dad were like, hey, you have to grind. You have to work. My dad, the mindset he taught me was first one in the office, last one out. So when I was raised like that, I just never heard the word white privilege. I didn't even know it was a thing until I was like 19 years old in community college.
Starting point is 01:30:23 And kids were like, hey, Horry, you're in community college because of white privilege. I was like, no, I'm not. I just messed around in high school and that's why I'm here and I deserve it. I see value to organized education because I imagine before John Dewey was around that it was just madness. One schoolhouse would be teaching this, the other would be teaching this. They'd say the word means this
Starting point is 01:30:40 thing, they'd say the word means that. So they developed a centralized authority that basically tells us this is the official information information but now you see how horrible that can become when they feed you crap um another thing which like the conservatives uh left the ball was this whole concept of they will get reality checked once they graduate and face the real world oh yeah because that never happened for most of these kids. I was wrong about that for sure. I was saying that. And what happens is they get out
Starting point is 01:31:08 and they all stand around looking at each other going, the world isn't the way it's supposed to be, so we're going to force it. And the way we're going to do it is by taking over the HR departments of corporate America. And that's what gets overlooked so much. Like people try to find cause and effect. That's the cause right there.
Starting point is 01:31:24 Well, the laws. overlooked so much. People try to find cause and effect. That's the cause right there. Well, the laws. Look, you've got the civil rights law, which we like, but they take it to the extreme. They say one of the arguments put forward by the left is about separate but equal when it comes to race. And then they say all of those arguments pertain to gender as well. So if the argument was that different races were different, therefore they get equal access to a bathroom, but there's different bathrooms based on race, why the same for gender? If the genders are equal under the law, how can you say separate but equal? It's an argument actually being made by the left over the gender issue. And based on the interpretation of the law, they have a legal argument. So there has to be a reinterpretation or there has to be a judicial review or something. But so long as these laws exist,
Starting point is 01:32:17 they will exploit them in ways they were never intended. They will change language to retroactively change the laws without any real democratic process. Look, these cult members are good at what they do in terms of militant system. They're really good. Like if you think about it right now, it is almost synonymous to a layman. Like there's no difference between equity and equality, right? People just throw around the word diversity and equity like it means nothing like it used to be when i was in school it was diversity and equality and we were like i knew what those words meant and i know what equality and equity is and what the difference is yeah
Starting point is 01:32:57 equity is communism yeah equity is equality of outcome and equality is equality of opportunity is as simple as that but right now to a layman, there is no difference because the left has been so, so, so good at messaging. I think equity, I think of finance. It's equity is ownership of assets. Ownership of assets. Yeah, right, right. That's everything. We're going to go to Super Chats.
Starting point is 01:33:20 If you haven't already, smash that like button. Subscribe to this channel. Share the show with your friends. Head over to TimCast.com. We're going to have a members-only. If you haven't already, smash that like button. Subscribe to this channel. Share the show with your friends. Head over to TimCast.com. We're going to have a members-only show around 11 or so p.m. We're going to be talking a bit about how the metaverse is grooming kids. No joke. It's a very serious discussion that I think is a little too spicy for YouTube, and we try to be family-friendly.
Starting point is 01:33:39 So head over to TimCast.com. We'll have that conversation up again around 11 or so p.m. And as a member, you're supporting all of our journalists. Smash that like button. As I said, let's read some of these super chats. All right, let's see. Christopher Knowles says, JBP, that's Jordan Peterson, said a while ago
Starting point is 01:33:55 that most government officials in Canada make decisions strictly based on polls. 10% poll swing towards conservative and now they're backpedaling. Think there are any similarities in Biden-Harris' regime? Yes. How quickly do the polls come out saying people were pissed off, and all of a sudden they start changing and pulling back on mandates and stuff like that?
Starting point is 01:34:14 Yeah, the mandates start dropping. The masking kits start dropping. Yeah, a lot of similarities. D.C. changed like that, like literally. Like D.C. used to be like all sad and gloomy with the vaccine mandates and the mask mandates. The vaccine mandate in DC dropped like that. Yeah, I would say like the mandate dropped in like winter 30 days. Right.
Starting point is 01:34:31 Legitimately. Here's one. Erythas of Stett says, I can't wait for Tim to sell the naming rights to Ian's room in the new compound. I'd name it the Gorilla Room. All right, Ian, your room is now for sale. Sold. For 50 bucks? I'll just do it for fun. Well, no, your room is now for sale. Sold. For 50 bucks? I like it.
Starting point is 01:34:46 I owe nothing. I'll just do it for fun. Well, no, he super chatted 50 bucks. Okay. So Ian's room is now officially called the Gorilla Room.
Starting point is 01:34:51 I'm so happy. I was going to call it that anyway. We need to figure out who made this awesome sign. This sign right here. Yeah, who made this? It was sent to us. Who sent these to us?
Starting point is 01:35:00 I love these things. That's pretty clutch. We need to get one that says the Gorilla Room so we can put it above Ian's door. At the Gorilla Room? The Gorilla Room. At Gorilla Room. Someone already made the Twitter account. Gorilla these things. That's pretty clutch. We need to get one that says the Gorilla Room so we can put it above Ian's door. At the Gorilla Room. The Gorilla Room. Someone already made
Starting point is 01:35:07 the Twitter account. GorillaRoom.com. Gorilla Room. Just pictures of Ian. Gorgeous. Alright, here's a good one. This is OMG Puppy says, Cernovich is warning people not to fall for Democrat honey traps like the U.S. Trucker Convoy. Do voter registrations stay away from dubious protests?
Starting point is 01:35:23 That's a good point. Cerno and Jack Posobiec have both kind of echoed that sentiment it's a good point you want to be effective voter registration like scott pressler's been doing that oh man scott's killing i don't know anyone who's who's doing it at that level i mean he's he's going to single handedly win republicans elections yeah by registering people to vote i don't know why the gop doesn't do anything with Scott. Because they're the party of no ideas. The Democrats are the party of bad ideas. Scott's the guy, man. Yeah, I don't know how the GOP doesn't just contact them and be like, hey, show us what
Starting point is 01:35:52 you're doing. We'll help you with our resources. But they just decide not to reach out to this guy and he's killing it on – he's everywhere. I mean you can just check his Twitter. He'll be like, I'm in Pennsylvania and I'm touring these five cities. I'm in Texas. I'm here. I'm here.
Starting point is 01:36:10 But I'm 50-50 with Cernovich on that because it's like I feel like you still need the nonviolent protest. You need to show that workers are uprising. But I do get it that it could be possibly infiltrated. Who knows, man? It's a tough call. All right. We got Lord Blueberry the first. He says, Tim, my wife was your brunch server the other day.
Starting point is 01:36:25 You hooked it up and she wanted me to send you a huge thank you. This is correct. We went out to a very fine establishment for brunch server the other day. You hooked it up, and she wanted me to send you a huge thank you. This is correct. We went out to a very fine establishment for brunch with the crew, and as we were leaving, our server just said, she's like, I want to let you know that my husband's a huge fan of your show. And I was like, oh, man, thanks so much. I really appreciate it. We gave a nice tip.
Starting point is 01:36:39 That's nice. Hook it up. I always tip really, really well because I'm a communist. Well, what we should do is tip the whole staff because as a waiter, when a really rich person would come in, all the waiters would be like – we'd be like piranhas wanting that one person. And whoever got to wait on them would get a big tip and everyone else would be really angry at the server. And it would create tenseness at the restaurant. And the kitchen crew needs some of that cash too. They deserve it.
Starting point is 01:37:05 I once tricked Luke. It was really funny. I was like – we were at a restaurant and Luke was – we had two separate bills because Luke was covering him and some of his friends and I was covering the crew. And then he was like – it was one – we had one server. He was like, how much are you going to tip? And then I was like, I'm going to tip big. And he was like, well, I'll tip half of whatever you do. And I was like, all right.
Starting point is 01:37:29 So I did this massive tip and then Luke was like – and they had to put in a of money but now we go to these restaurants the servers like run out they're like that's the crew i want to help you know you know what i said man when i was a kid i said my goal is to get to the point where i can tip a waitress a ton of money you know like there's somebody who's working an honest day's work you know maybe they're having a bad day or something and you're like i'm gonna make your day one of the best days ever. Dude, it's like you could give them five days of work in one tip. What an ability for them to get a buffer to do something they love with their life.
Starting point is 01:37:53 For five days. I always tip mad crazy at restaurants. Yeah, me too. Over Christmas holiday, I was just unloading tips. And I try to leave before they see a tip. I try to tip good, though. where I was tipping greatly was during the lockdowns and I had to go to these barbers that were basically giving these black market haircuts. So anytime I was getting a black market haircut, I'd tip the guy like five times.
Starting point is 01:38:19 We got Luke in the chat. Luke. Luke says I still did it. That's right. Luke's a boss. And then Luke was like – I did it. That's right. Luke's a boss. And then Luke was like, you son of a. Somehow tip the whole staff. But I'm afraid that if you give the tip to the manager, they're going to pocket it.
Starting point is 01:38:33 So you've got to make sure everyone sees their percentage. Ian, you have to tip the whole staff next time. Person to person to person to person. This pisses me off. And they're like, the chef can't take tips. And you're like, you know what? Get out of my face, dude. You can't.
Starting point is 01:38:43 I was at a local grocery store during, I think it was Thanksgiving. And there were people there working. And we were picking up a bunch of snacks. I think it was Thanksgiving. And I was like, look at all these people working. They're probably getting paid very little. I was like, I'm going to give them all $100. There's like four or five people who had helped me out.
Starting point is 01:39:00 So I walked up and I was like, can I give you guys a tip? And they were like, no. And I was like, okay. And there was a guy bagging and I was like, can I give you guys a tip? And they were like, no. And I said – I was like, okay. And there was a guy bagging and he was like, they can't tip us? And they were like, no. And if you take it, we'll make you give it back. And then I was like, all right, man. I just wanted to give you guys a tip for working on the holidays.
Starting point is 01:39:15 I think you can give them a gift though technically. Legally, you're allowed to give gifts. No, they can't. I believe you can write that this is officially a gift and not a tip. And I've seen – someone tweeted out a picture of it, and it went viral on Twitter. I was thinking like – I was like I wish I could just tell that 16-year-old kid who was bagging groceries, and they said they wouldn't let it do it. I was like I wish I could just offer – you want to mop the floors here? We'll pay you twice as much as they're paying you because that's BS.
Starting point is 01:39:38 Right. If I'm a customer and I come in and I appreciate you guys working on the holidays and I want to pay you extra, I should be able to do it. They wouldn't let me do it. We should read some more Super Chats. We got Isaac Lux. He says, I haven't heard you mention Transnistria, a disputed area in eastern Moldova housing Russian troops in the southeast border with Ukraine. Look up Simon Whistler's video on Geographics for more information. That's interesting. I didn't know about that. All right. Ardwick says, don't think that the truck's interesting. I didn't know about that. All right. Ardwick says, don't think that the truckers won.
Starting point is 01:40:08 Trudeau declares emergency. Parliament delays vote until Trudeau clears protesters. Parliament votes to back the emergency. Trudeau cancels emergency. Precedent set. Perhaps. But I think their polling is going to be hurt. And I think a lot of people, it's like confidence is everything. If one day everyone woke up and said Trudeau needs to be out he'd be out so if they shatter confidence by doing
Starting point is 01:40:31 this stuff it's a dramatic shift and they know it absolutely and i like i said i do think it's a big deal that you actually had a president like i said president of osama naib who killed who stepped up and spoke out against what trudeau was doing and And I think that's going to be interesting as those diplomatic informations further. The South Salvador thing is pretty interesting. You know, it is. And like I said, it's fascinating to actually have a president come out and speak out against what Trudeau government did. And I think it's going to be really interesting how we see that foreign policy play between those two countries as we go. All right.
Starting point is 01:41:03 R.D. says Ian's salary based on the ones and 20s he rolls. I would never take that gamble. I just live life, baby. One day it's like his paycheck is massive. Well, he ain't even rolling 20s, man. It was worth it. It was worth it. It's not worth it.
Starting point is 01:41:19 Sam says, shout out to Viva Fry. Tim, you should have him on. Viva is always welcome. We're big fans. And it's just difficult with the borders and stuff. But anytime Viva can come down, we will have him on. Viva's a great guy. I just met him at the James O'Keefe release party for his book.
Starting point is 01:41:35 But Viva's awesome. He was so crucial in the Rittenhouse coverage. I tweeted it out of all the guests we've ever had on. The only one I fanboyed over was David Frey. That's Viva. I was just so excited to meet him. He's like age he was cool he's cool dude all right hayden says josh yoder with the people's convoy talked to ivory hecker today and said that the convoy will not be going to dc they have reportedly had feds already tried to infiltrate the convoy and rile people up
Starting point is 01:42:01 that's interesting though what i'm getting from my sources, because I've got a couple guys on the ground, is that they're not going to go into D.C. proper, but D.C. Beltway. And I've got my good friends out there, Sergio and Anthony Cabasa, out there following the Freedom Convoy from California. Cenk Sautome says, But also, I'm on TV right now. Ian is hearing liberty or death for the first time in his life from people who actually mean it. And he's so state brainwashed he can't understand it. But also I'm on TV right now. So we have guidelines about what we can and can't say on TV. I fully support the convoy and the momentum and the alteration of fascist governments. I want to break down the Federal Reserve and reformulate our economy with something more, you know, at least opportunistically equitable.
Starting point is 01:42:46 Adrian Contreras says, me, my roof is leaking. Ian, the Federal Reserve. I think the point they're making is that there's a lot of issues that are pertinent to like working class people that aren't solved by these bigger, grandiose issues like this. Definitely. All right. Here's one that's really, really important. Tattered Shield says, Tim, I have done what you said and got off the american dollar i have done nothing but by magic the gathering goblin tokens for three days 62,000 goblin tokens i never at any point instructed anybody to let alone get uh get up by get off
Starting point is 01:43:18 the american dollar let alone by goblin tokens for magic the gatheringing. But I do think... No, I'm kidding. He will spawn 62,000 goblins in one turn. I mean... Just so you know. Tim coins? We have commander decks that can generate that many. Kiki-jiki. I mean, that's infinite.
Starting point is 01:43:34 Tim coins. I don't know if they're goblins, though. Kicker. The bird dude. Beanie coins. Oh, Kaikar. Yeah. He's the token generator guy.
Starting point is 01:43:41 I've actually had, like... I've had to use, like, three 20-sided dyes. So sign one of those goblins, send them to the PO box, and maybe Tim will slip one in his deck. I saw a couple people playing chess today, and I was like, y'all got to play Magic the Gathering because there's more spice to it. It's like chess, turn-based strategy game, but it's also like poker. Not knowing what your opponent has is cool. Yeah, like you're trying to guess what cards they might be using based on the actions they're taking. It's like chess and poker combined.
Starting point is 01:44:07 Good game. And plus that new neon Japanese set came out. Oh. Yeah, Kamigawa. That's a new Kamigawa set. Yeah, and it's like digital future neon something or other. Card games are fun. I should make some more decks.
Starting point is 01:44:19 Just don't have time. All right. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. once again says, Ian, sir, as someone who has done time and someone who has served in our beloved marine corps i'll gladly get arrested for the freedom of our people okay for the freedom that's very vague though you'd be you know planning is every is almost everything right now uh organization and planning is a big part of them and then the action comes after the organization and the planning is done. Howard, with a great super chat, thank you for the super chat, says,
Starting point is 01:44:48 first they came for roller 20. It was not me. Then they came for roller 15. Not me. Then they came for 10. Not me. Then they came for roller one, Ian. Then I said I should have honked. Yeah. Roll initiative. Wise words. huh yeah roll initiative wise words caligula uh was it say caligula says ian in the words of george carlin white collar blue clock blue collar it doesn't matter what color shirt you have on the elites are screwing all of us yeah or basically uh as george carlin would say it's a big club and you ain't in it that's my favorite quote of all time. Brian Wisecarver says, I emailed spintheufo at Gmail. I haven't heard back from you guys, but I'm still recording and documenting everything while volunteering with the People's Convoy.
Starting point is 01:45:32 Let me know if you guys have any questions about it or want any firsthand information. Yeah, so what I did with that was forward it on to Chris Carr, who is our editor-in-chief, I think. There you go. So he's got that information now, and I can send him anything more that you send to me. And we are coordinating coverage, but we got to figure it out. Yeah. It's not, you know, it's not super easy. There's a lot of conflicting information.
Starting point is 01:45:51 So we're trying to figure it out. All right. What do we got? Casual Gamer says, hi, Tim. I'm a meat wrapper with Safeway. The company gave us hazard pay at the beginning of COVID, stopped six months later and now giving it to us as back pay for the past six weeks. $5 an hour extra.
Starting point is 01:46:07 That's cool. That's neat. Yeah. Yeah. I think they're unionized. I like that. Yeah. Workers first all day.
Starting point is 01:46:14 Yeah. Right on. All right. Let's grab some super chats here. Let's find a good one. Do, do, do. Sean Hirschbach says, Tim, I love when you have documentarians on.
Starting point is 01:46:28 Any chance you can have Ami Horwitz on the show? I would love to have Ami Horwitz on the show. Have we ever reached out to him? I don't think so. We should. Ami's great. Ami's cool. You know, Richie's over here like,
Starting point is 01:46:40 I got his digits, man. I'll call him right now. Richie hiding in the background. I got his digits. This guy. I knew call him right now. Richie hiding in the background. Got his digits. This guy. I knew that Richie was here because the skate park is directly beneath where my office and everything is. And then all of a sudden, I hear banging and, oh, like someone fell. And I was like, oh.
Starting point is 01:46:59 Yeah, Richie and Andy are ripping it today. To be fair, I then heard, ah. I was like, okay, Richie's here. He's downstairs. Yeah, he did. Richie, within like two minutes I was like, okay, Richie's here. He's downstairs. Yeah, he did. Richie, within like two minutes, was like, you guys ready to skate? Yeah, he was ready. Oh, there's some solid video of Richie tearing it up on his Twitter right now.
Starting point is 01:47:13 Yeah, Richie was killing it. Man, you should have got here early so we could have you launch into the six-foot airbag. Yeah, dude missed it. You can come by the weekend. We'll get it set up. We've got a couple, some smaller ones coming too, so you can launch really high into smaller airbags. It's going to be fun.
Starting point is 01:47:29 Yeah. Andy did a front flip today. It was cool. Amazing. Yeah. Charles says, Ian, if people don't want to be annoyed by protests, maybe they shouldn't live downtown at the country's capital. Still love you, or do I love hating you?
Starting point is 01:47:43 Probably both. Yeah. It makes a relationship with you. It's toxic. you probably both yeah yeah it's a mixed relationship with you toxic there's a scratching an itch you know it feels good but you don't want to do it too much that's true there is a point put some water on it it'll stop after about 20 seconds could you imagine ian like you know how many protests are in dc right uh no actually no like a yearly i don't have any idea 500 i don't know't know. There are some permanent ones. Like if you drive by downtown Capitol Hill area outside of Washington,
Starting point is 01:48:10 outside of the White House, there are like six who never move, period. There's this guy who has the Earth in his sign and he just holds that all day, all night long. I was going to say too, Simon, there could be random days in D.C. where you're driving to work and you'll be stopped by like six climate protesters.
Starting point is 01:48:28 If you live in your nation's capital, you are surrounded by protests nonstop. Always. I wish they knew that making an internet video channel is the best form of protest because you're going to reach magnitudes more people than standing outside and holding a sign. Yeah, Rumble is where it's at. So we're talking about, you know, how we're going to expand and, like, what the plans are. And, you know, until we get Pop Culture Crisis, Cast Castle, Inverted World, like, more sustainable,
Starting point is 01:48:55 we're not going to be launching. We're not just going to start launching off crazy shows until we get work done on these. So make sure you subscribe to Pop Culture Crisis on YouTube. Follow Brett Dasavik, who hosts the show, as well as Miracle and everybody else on the show. But if we do anything else moving forward, it's probably going to be on Rumble. So some stuff will be on YouTube for sure.
Starting point is 01:49:15 But if we're thinking about doing live gaming, it's going to be on Rumble. Right. Yeah, because Twitch is too risky. Someone asks you a question, you passively are playing, you know, I'm playing Forbidden West right now, Horizon Forbidden West. I love this game. Zero Dawn was fantastic. And you're playing and someone asks you a question while you're playing and then all of a sudden you're banned? Screw that.
Starting point is 01:49:35 Just do it on Rumble, man. Rumble's where it's at. You know what? I should probably just stream it because I play for like an hour every day. You should, yeah. And on Twitch, I mean, while gaming, people say out-of-pocket shit all the time. And on Twitch, you might just get, you people say out-of-pocket shit all the time. And on Twitch, you might just get,
Starting point is 01:49:46 you know, yanked for like no good reason. Yeah, they temporarily banned Destiny because he said Kyle Rittenhouse defended himself. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:53 It was like someone asked him a question and he said it and then he, yeah, Twitch is nuts. Say Amazon, what do you expect?
Starting point is 01:49:58 Yeah, I miss the old days when I was like 13, 14 on the Call of Duty and I mean anything to fly. You would hear all things about your mama on those chats. Learn about your mother. Yeah hear all things about your mama on those chats.
Starting point is 01:50:05 Learn about your mother. Yeah, yeah. You learn about your mom on those chats. Matthew Gill says, Tim's cat shall now be known as Buckets. Buckets?
Starting point is 01:50:14 Buckets. Oh. Because the O is gendered, so Buckets. Oh, right. That's right. Got it. All right.
Starting point is 01:50:20 Simulated Dave says, saw some We Are Change and free Honk Honk merch out at Atalanto today. So encouraging to see Timcast reaches the hellscape that is Cali. Follow Viewfound Media and IG. Timcast inspires me to make new content. Hey, man, glad to hear it.
Starting point is 01:50:34 Amazing. It's always cool when I see people wearing the shirts because we have a shirt at Timcast.com called Join the Cult. Yeah. But it says join the city urban liberal types, but C-U-L-T is in red. And then it's Kent, our animator's version of the meme where the two guys are like doing the soy mouth
Starting point is 01:50:51 and pointing behind them. Oh, that's my favorite. And then it's like the city's being destroyed by aliens and Godzilla. And they're like, Oh, and it says, Join the cult. I think it's a funny shirt.
Starting point is 01:50:59 But yeah, people have been buying it. We never did like a strong promotion for that shirt. We just put this stuff up. That's funny. And people are buying it. So that's really cool. Appreciate you guys buying the shirts. Love it. All right.
Starting point is 01:51:09 We got this one here from Anno. I think Ian had too much sugar today because you are just rolling fives. Way too much, bro. Oh, really? Yeah, but five is actually better than people are saying one. It depends on what your bonus is. A one is an automatic failure. A five, if you get a plus 19 to your roll is a 24. So you can get a lot accomplished with good bonuses high stats yeah and um i do think it's
Starting point is 01:51:29 really funny that one and 20 basically mean agree or disagree now it's so polarized i love that that's like we're creating this polarized system for people no we're like people didn't use to say very simply i agree with what's said or disagree so now if like someone says something on the show you'll get 300 ones or 20s. We might have cracked the culture code here. How to do instant polling? I think we broke through with the critical 20s and failures.
Starting point is 01:51:53 Yeah, we did, huh? We got some flabby. Tapping into the amygdala. Oh, here we go. David Troutman says, I hear you're having trouble buying electric guitars. I build them.
Starting point is 01:52:02 How about I build one for the show? Love your work. Keep up the good fight, Tim. I'll email you if you're interested yeah we were i was actually looking at some um some uh individuals who who craft guitars because i was thinking like maybe we get a like a tim cast unique signature guitar that we would you know use for shows or maybe like two of them so tim caster what tim caster what's the is the telex is telecaster like proprietary timcast i think we can say timcast call it the tim caster i think we could should i not have said that yeah i could do it immediately tim caster somebody locked that in that's great
Starting point is 01:52:35 everyone's posting 20s now okay so so uh yeah david email spin the ufo at gmail.com david troutman and uh let's get a guitar built let's make it fancy can we can we get it made out of like some like ancient wood from you know an old dragon bone dragon bone oh that's cool aluminum like made of like petrified wood petrified milk cartons from a meteorite put like an amber gem in the neck or something if you can. No, I'm just kidding. Dasher says, Tim, what do you think about BeanieCoin? Credits to the chat. I don't think we'll be doing BeanieCoin. I said BeanieCoin, yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:12 We were talking earlier on a meeting with the ONF, our charity, Open Network Foundation, talking about creating crypto and whether or not it would be better to use one that's already been created. MindsToken. The MindsToken. Yep. Or like an array of tokens that have already been created? Minds token. The Minds token? Yep. Or like an array of tokens that have already been created? Because creating one brings in SEC regulations, and then it's almost like it's another business completely.
Starting point is 01:53:30 Correct. So I think with the On Foundation, for those that aren't familiar, the goal is to make uncensorable networking technology. So you can have your own member website like Locals or Patreon, but it would also network with other sites. No one would have the ability to ban anyone else. You would have the ability to ban someone from your site. So if you're on an unfettered network, so let's say you go to Ian's website, there will be a portion of it where you can see other people's networking through his site.
Starting point is 01:53:59 You'll see his posts on your site. People can see your posts on his site, depending on what kind of system they're using. So it's basically decentralized social media tech. But Ian could be like on my website. I don't want to ever have Tim's content come up and could like lock you out. That's how the Fediverse works. So that's our plan there. I think mine's token works because they're already an established social network with a crypto that's valuable.
Starting point is 01:54:20 It's like what, $3, $2 to $3? Yeah, it fluctuates somewhere. 1.5 to 4, I've seen it at. But first of all, I know Bill, the CEO. Ian, you were involved. He's like my brother. I mean, I love the guy. You were one of the co-founders of mine. Over a decade, yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:34 And I trust him. That's why it's important. But if we can integrate with an existing network, I think that's what will make this software work. Because if we were just to launch, like here's a thing that works, some people might use it. If it's to integrate with a website that already has a couple million users, I think that's what will make this software work. Because if we were just to launch, like here's a thing that works, some people might use it. If it's to integrate with a website that already has like a couple million users, I think. How many millions?
Starting point is 01:54:51 Several, four million a day or something. Yeah. I don't know the number. Then people are going to start adopting our software. It's beneficial to the mind's ecosystem because that grows. And it creates a large node with a bunch of smaller nodes. Hopefully we can make something like that grow so that Facebook, we got to build a cultural hub
Starting point is 01:55:07 of decentralized social media. So this is something which people are not talking about enough, like content creation on the blockchain, for example, like the web three, which people are throwing around, like people creating untethered content and the entire base of it is the blockchain.
Starting point is 01:55:21 I wonder if we'll go into this on the after show. I know you've mentioned child sweatshops in the metaverse. I've been talking about blockchain content which can never be erased. It's grooming in the metaverse, dude. It's dark stuff. So there's bonuses to having your stuff on a blockchain because it can't be deleted but then the downside is it can't be deleted.
Starting point is 01:55:37 Correct. Alright. Sargon of Assyria says, would you have Billy Corgan on? Yes. In a heartbeat I'm a big fan of the Smashing Pumpkins. I met Billy Corgan, and it was like a totally amazing experience because a friend of mine was friends with one of his
Starting point is 01:55:54 exes, and we went to one of his shows. I'll give you the short version. I walked in, and he was signing posters. I got there late, and I saw him. I'm like, oh, so cool. Billy Corgan, man. He's rad. And then we watched this like music video movie for his music. And then after we left, my friend is like, hey, I'm going to talk to my friend who is Billy's ex. Do you want to meet him?
Starting point is 01:56:16 And when I walked up, the first thing that Billy says to me, he goes, hey, you're Tim Pool. And I was like, wow. What year was that? This was a couple years ago dude i was a little kid growing up listening to smashing pumpkins and playing those songs in my cover band yesterday or tomorrow i called it yesterday that's funny it's today today it's called and i was like called tomorrow it's called today he was today today is one of the best songs a great feeling it was super he's a super cool dude and he signed a poster for me and he was
Starting point is 01:56:41 like he's like yeah i like i like your work and i'm like dude i said to him i was like you have any idea how crazy it is like i'm yeah i think i was like 34 or whatever at the time or 33 i was like dude you're billy corgan i grew up listening to your music and i come up to you and you're like hey you're tim pool i'm like it's mind-blowingly awesome i appreciate it sime's dream was so epic because it was almost like an orchestrative piece with like with like high strings and then it's just but there's like a rock album too it's like a dirty rock album he did a really good job at putting that together whoever I don't know if they produced it themselves but I love smash the
Starting point is 01:57:11 back when I was in middle school yeah yeah I did I was a big fan of Nirvana back in those golden days plus being from Chicago that song the city by the lake I was like yeah Chicago man like that's us we live there and this song so big but it was days plus being from chicago that line in the song the city by the lake i was like yeah chicago man like that's us we live there and this song's so big but it was cool because this song was like
Starting point is 01:57:30 epic orchestral you know tonight so that for me i was listening to that and i was like wow yeah good stuff not to mention 1979 zero just so much good music man i love i love uh ava door i i said billy actually was on Rogan that's a good interview if you guys haven't seen that yet check out that one didn't he say that he saw Aliens once
Starting point is 01:57:50 he's he's tapped tuned in yeah no what's the oh man I forgot it was a dude from Blink 182 that was on Rogan
Starting point is 01:57:58 he was like oh Tom yeah Tom DeLonge he was all into the Aliens he was saying how the how the US congressman invited him to D.C.
Starting point is 01:58:06 He's always been. Something to the stars. To the stars academy. Yeah, yeah. Tom DeLonge has always been big on UFOs. They have a song about it on Enema of the State. Of course, that old song. Silly band and fart jokes all the way, but, you know.
Starting point is 01:58:18 To the stars academy. The song is called Aliens Exist. We used to play on the plane. He'd be a good guest. Tom, that'd be great. Yeah, that'd be super cool. Talking about aliens. I mean, look,
Starting point is 01:58:27 if we could get people like Morgan and Tom DeLonge, I'd be... Oh, for sure. Those would be good days. That'd be amazing. It'd be so fun. You could jam with him.
Starting point is 01:58:34 Yeah, great band. All right, everybody. If you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to the channel. We're going to get ready to start recording that members-only segment
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Starting point is 01:59:02 Do you guys want to shout out anything? Yeah, big thing right now, guys want to shout out anything? Yeah. Big thing right now, guys, is please, please check out the Hero to Zero documentary that we just released. The link is also going to be in the description. So it's HeroToZero.com. Please check out the documentary. Share it with anyone you can just to get the story out regarding the first responders and everything that they've been going through. Help us combat the corporate media.
Starting point is 01:59:23 Also, check out our very first documentary me and Sonic produced is the Cartelville USA. That one is cartel.com into the illegal marijuana operations involving drug cartels, human smuggling in California. So please check it out. My personal social media on Twitter
Starting point is 01:59:39 is really easy. So it's my last name Ventura with the word report. So Ventura report. On Instagram it's JorgeVenturaTV. Follow us. So like that you last name, Ventura, with the word report. So Ventura Report. On Instagram, it's JorgeVenturaTV. Follow us. So like that, you guys get all the updates on all the news that we're working on, all the stories that we're going to be working on. So right now, we're going to be following the Freedom Convoy, the truckers. Me and Sonic pretty soon go up actually to Northern California, Shasta County, and going to be looking at their illegal marijuana operations and their drug cartel involvement. Sonic? Same thing. Yeah. County and going to be looking at their illegal marijuana operations and their drug cartel involvement. Sounded.
Starting point is 02:00:06 Same thing. Yeah. Document. The documentaries, which we make, we put like two months effort into it. So it's really helpful if you guys check that out. And my personal handle is under the code S-A-G-N-I-K-B-A-S-U on Twitter. It's awesome to see you guys. Awesome.
Starting point is 02:00:22 Really great to see you again. And thanks for coming. If you guys want to check out a show that Jorge did with us, we were talking about the cartels. It was really powerful from, I don't know, five, six months ago or something like that. It's here on this channel. So check that out. I'm Ian Crossland.
Starting point is 02:00:34 And check me out at iancrossland.net if you want to get in touch. I'll see you later. And I'm also here in the corner. I pushed all the buttons on the show. And I have to say, I've got to thank Richie for this amazing beer. Richie always brings me beer. This beer looks like Sour Patch Kids and I thought it was beautiful and it is delicious
Starting point is 02:00:49 so thank you very much. I really appreciate it. And you guys can follow me on Twitter at Sour Patch Kids and also on Mines.com. We will see everybody over at TimCast.com around 11 or so p.m. Thanks for hanging out. Bye guys.

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