Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #480 - Russia Firing On Nuclear Power Plant On LIVE VIDEO w/Posobiec & Daniel Turner

Episode Date: March 4, 2022

Tim, Ian, Seamus of FreedomToons, and Lydia host commentator and podcaster Jack Posobiec and president of Powering The Future Daniel Turner to discuss the livestream of the Ukrainian nuclear power pla...nt being shelled by Russian troops, the cat association that's taking bold, strategic action and banning Russian cats from competitions, the Russian planes violating airspace in Sweden and Japan, and Russia Today's halting of operations in the US. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Right now, there is a live stream on YouTube showing war at one of the largest nuclear power plants, I believe, in the world. Is it in the world, Jack? Certainly one of the largest in Europe, as far as we can tell. They may have larger ones in Asia, but this is the largest one in Europe. You can actually watch on live video on YouTube. At first, we had this breaking news report, and it said they're shelling or firing on a nuclear power plant. And so I titled this stream like reportedly doing this. And then Jack was like, I've got the live stream.
Starting point is 00:00:31 And then we started watching the live stream. And you can see fire. You can see what looks like emergency vehicles. You can see military equipment. You can see some kind of firing upon this nuclear power plant. So not confidence building, to say the least, but certainly one of the most shocking developments we've seen so far. And we've got a lot of other updates too. Russian warplanes entered. I'll be very careful how I describe this. Violated Swedish airspace
Starting point is 00:00:55 and Japanese airspace. People need to realize that Russia is like 50 miles from Sweden and 50 miles from Japan and 50 miles from the United States. So they certainly are very close to all of these countries. And there seems to be a real possibility of dramatic escalation here. So we'll definitely get into all of that. And we also have some of the craziest news. Russia today, RT, completely shut down. I mean, this is crazy. How many people work at this company?
Starting point is 00:01:22 Dozens, 100 or more, all lost their jobs. RT just said an interruption in business. There's what gets crazy. How many people work at this company? Dozens? A hundred or more? All lost their jobs. RT just said an interruption in business. Here's where it gets crazy. Social media has labeled Americans, like Twitter has labeled like Russian state media. And Lee Camp, who is an anti-war, I think it's fair to say he's left, right? Leftist, is that? I guess. He seems pretty centrist to me.
Starting point is 00:01:43 He's level-headed, but he's definitely anti-war he's an anti-war anti-establishment guy spotify took his podcast off the air now the crazy thing is i don't think his podcast is affiliated with russia it's like a youtube channel that he made was neil young demanding you take it down must have been but uh he did work he did have a show on russia today called redacted tonight so i don't know if he's still doing that, but this is crazy. Like, war hysteria. We are seeing this in real time. They're banning Russians from sporting events, from video games.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Like, FIFA's like, we're not going to have Russians in our video game. Did you hear they banned Russian cats? Russian cats from the cat show. What? White people have lost their minds. Well, there's a report. Real quick, we'll just go through. We have a sponsor tonight, but we'll go through introductions. Sorry to cut you off.
Starting point is 00:02:29 But we've got Jack Posobiec hanging out. Hey, welcome back. Very good to be back here. It's been a minute, but about a month since up and on. Good to see Ian. Good to see everybody. Good to be in the compound. Right on.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Daniel Turner, Power of the Future. Always great to be with you fine folks. And with Jack. We've done this before, and it's good to see you, my Future. Always great to be with you fine folks. And with Jack. We've done this before and it's good to see you, my friend. Always a pleasure. Thank you. I'm Seamus Coghlan of Freedom Tunes. We upload a new animated cartoon every single Thursday,
Starting point is 00:02:53 which means we put one up today about Biden's State of the Union. I think you guys will really enjoy it. It's so good. Yeah, thank you very much. It's awesome. Thank you. Thank you. Please check it out.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Ian Crossland over here from iancrossland.net. The energy feels lively. I'm ready to roll with it. Let's go. Feels like a nuclear fire tonight. I'm excited to talk about this a little bit, see what's going on. Don't forget also, go to timcast.com. We're going to have a members-only podcast, about half an hour long.
Starting point is 00:03:16 They usually are. Up around 11 or so p.m. So after we end this show, we do the members-only portion of the show where we talk about, you know, let's just say it's unleashed. There's more swearing and crass language and discussions. So that's available at timcast.com. But as a member, you're helping keep all of our journalists employed, and we're eternally grateful for all of the support we do get. And also, don't forget to nuke that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. Let's just jump in to this first story. We have the report here from ABC News. Plant spokesman
Starting point is 00:03:45 says Russian troops have begun shelling Europe's largest nuclear power station in Ukraine. Plant spokesman says Russian troops have begun shelling it. That's basically the news. That's it. But we're not stopping there. We actually have this live stream. I can't read Cyrillic, so I don't know who's the person who has the live stream up. It's not us, but someone has been able to get a live stream of the plant. You can see there's some smoke coming out of it. The camera has moved periodically. But let me just do this.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Let me jump to this one. It seems to be the name of the plant itself, so I think it might be like an official channel. It's the actual – right. Oh, so you're right. Yeah, yeah. Was it – Zaprozitska. Zaprozitska?
Starting point is 00:04:22 Yeah. All right. Well, there you go. So we actually have uh some photos that appears to show uh still grabs and video clips showing the actual shelling you can see this happening right now i i would be uh i would love to have had uh someone who knows the finer mechanics of a nuclear power plant to tell us what this could mean what could happen because apparently they've already hit so like have they hit all of the power station?
Starting point is 00:04:47 Well, there's lots. At any nuclear facility that you're going to be involved in, and someone who's, I say as a military officer, I have done some basic battle damage assessment training. So just like any military facility or large-scale power plant, there's going to be lots of outlier buildings, administrative buildings, office buildings. There's way more buildings around this thing than the actual nuclear reactors that have the rods in them that have the ability to melt down or anything like that. Now, that being said, it's not a good idea to have a firefight at a nuclear plant to be firing artillery and throwing grenades and all the rest of that for various, very obvious reasons.
Starting point is 00:05:28 So this is, is this, what is this? We have this image here. Zaporizhitsa, is that what it is? Am I saying that wrong? Well, it looks like, yeah, it looks like in English they're saying Zaporizhitsa, but in this really, there was a K. So that was throwing me off. But there's like, it's like Zaporizhitsia.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Zaporizhitsia. But this is just north of Melitopol. And that's just north of Crimea near the Sea of Azov. So it's on the Dnieper River. So every nuclear plant needs a water source, right? This is your basic nuclear power value proposition. So it's the same reason, by the way, why a lot of U.S. Navy ships, all U.S. carriers and all U.S. submarines are nuclear powered because obviously they have very plentiful access to water. I was going to say, though, Russia has attempted and it's kind of on again, off again, to make a nuclear-powered cruiser. So actually with the capability of essentially being able to fire cruise missiles as this massive nuclear-powered platform, which even the U.S. doesn't do.
Starting point is 00:06:36 So what are we doing here? Is this just a shocking moment? It's a flash in the pan and maybe nothing bad will happen? Well, it seems, I mean, it seems this is this is again this is part of russia's strategy right they are trying to take over all the strategic key points of ukraine and they're what they're trying to do really is cut the entire country of ukraine in half using that denver river as their essential boundary so either they're coming down on the north towards kiev they're coming up from the south through starting obviously in crimea which they had already annexed in 2014. Coming up north, they already took the city of Kherson. So
Starting point is 00:07:08 the next logical move for any military procession in this was that you would continue up the river. Did you see that map from Lukashenko, Belarus, showing the attack into Moldova, though? Right. Yeah. What do you think about that? I mean, that could be a lot of things. Now, we already know that Russia does have some troops in that separatist region of Transnistria. So it could have been a reference to that. I mean, that could be a lot of things. Now, we already know that Russia does have some troops in that separatist region of Transnistria. So it could have been a reference to that. I mean, the quality of the map was hard to kind of really make out if there was any writing on it or anything like that. And obviously, everybody knows that I have a live-in translator when it comes to this part of the world, my wife being Belarusian.
Starting point is 00:07:44 And so I asked her if she could see anything on there. And so I couldn't really see anything. But I remember the night that this all started, we were down in CPAC and we were staying at this place that like crappy hotel, wifi, nice hotel, but crappy wifi down in Orlando. And Putin's up giving his speech and she's like translating it in real time. And then I'm tweeting it out. And then Zelensky is coming up, up giving his response and people are all like you know how's how's posobie getting this stuff so fast i'm like i have a translator sitting there that's always the most difficult things i've seen a lot of videos of putin statements and i don't know that someone's translated it properly you know do you trust a random person on the internet just posting quotes you know what i mean there was
Starting point is 00:08:22 a funny moment of that i Welcome to the fog of war. Funny moment of that in 2007 with Condi Rice when she was meeting with Medvedev. Remember? And she kicked the translator out of the room because she speaks Russian and she said, she accused the Russian translator of purposely or the American translator of either not purposely, but she accused
Starting point is 00:08:42 the American translator of botching the translation to a point that it was distracting her. And so she asked the translator to leave. How many times has that happened? That's pretty badass, Condi. I mean, if that happened, that's an example. How many times do you think this is happening today, like over and over and over again? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Already, we were talking about mistranslations in like Islam and that the word power and force also mean God in Arabic. Yeah. And like, come on. Talk about a mistranslation. And you listen to the msnbc translation of the state of the union yeah i was gonna say they don't even translate biden proper um just an update on as what we're seeing and the stream is freezing now so i mean we might be losing um you know our ability to see what's going on at this uh power plant but ukraine's energy
Starting point is 00:09:21 ministry and again fog of war grain of salt salt, all the normal couching statements and corollaries that we have to say. But Ukraine's energy ministry is now claiming that firefighters have been fired at by Russian troops while trying to put out the fire because they're going directly into an active combat situation. It's possible. It's entirely possible. Yeah, if you're a firefighter and there's conflict, they don't know who you are, they might fire upon you. But I just, I'm really not a fan of these comic book villainy claims that come out from the West.
Starting point is 00:09:53 And to be honest, even from Russia, oh, we don't want Ukraine to get nukes or whatever, or we're trying to de-Nazify Putin saying, you know, we're gonna have an Antifa thing or whatever. That's ridiculous. But the idea, you know, that we're hearing the absolute comic book villainy of both sides, from both sides. The propaganda is the Russians are evil.
Starting point is 00:10:11 And they got these videos of POWs crying and saying, like, I didn't know they were going to make me kill women and children or whatever. And I'm like, dude, don't parade around POWs to me because I don't trust them when they say that, right? You've captured them. Their lives are at risk. The Ukrainian Special Forces Command said we're not going to take prisoners anymore. And a lot of people were like, well, that's an admission of a war crime.
Starting point is 00:10:38 They were like, no more capture. If we do, we're going to – I think – what did they say? Slaughter like pigs or something? Yeah, but that actually – I did see some people pushing back on that and as we were just saying that may have been kind of a translation thing where the the connotation may have been more like you we're going to kill you in battle so you won't you won't be alive for us to take prisoner right as opposed to we're we're not going to allow you to surrender no they they tweeted in english something and then deleted it.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Yeah, there was like a tweet. That was so I think that was either Kiev Independent or Kiev Post. That was that was covering what was said. But they may have been going off of the mistranslation. Right. But again, I mean, so here's what I keep saying throughout all of this. Right. And the one thing I've instituted with all my team is saying i we're on a 24 hour you know rule with all this stuff because how many stories have come out since the beginning of this conflict almost it's i think one week i think we're at the one week mark today right um that
Starting point is 00:11:37 within 24 hours have been completely debunked right this shelling or this pilot or you know snake island right it sounds like a hollywood script right it sounds like a marvel movie yeah you're like like a movie script and you're and and at first you're oh my gosh this is this i can't believe it and then it turns out i can't believe you actually can't believe it right so you so keep in mind that you know you're seeing these situations and it's it's meant to emotionally affect you and emotionally hook you. And the Western media, by the way, has been leaps and bounds beyond anything Russia has put out in terms of their information operations here. So kind of one little corollary I threw out there was, you know, the sort of
Starting point is 00:12:15 debunks all of Russiagate, right? Because it wasn't the predicate for Russiagate, the idea that the Russians were these masters at information warfare. They dominated the global information environment. And then it turns out that, okay, well, here's Russia in an actual shooting war, which they would really need to have their best info ops up. And they're screaming about genocide and Nazis. And sure, we can talk about the Azov battalion, and we can be very truthful about what's going on. But at the same – and yes, there is shelling in Donbass.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Yeah, 100%. But it's not the exact same thing that they're alleging they got the the the instagram hot babes of russia coming out against uh vladimir putin's against their own government he's done and some of it's time to end it yeah and some of these uh i thought i thought bad guys was gonna do it but this is these instagram models are like the daughters of government officials. See, the thing is, this is the power of influence war. The U.S. controls Instagram. These young women make money off Instagram and feel social acceptance from likes. When that's threatened to be taken away from them, they immediately come out and say, no, no, no, I support the other country.
Starting point is 00:13:21 That is scary. Like our corporations do. China. Yeah. Exactly. the other country. That is scary. Like our corporations do when every time there's... Yeah, exactly. It's terrifying when TikTok, controlled by China, is operating here
Starting point is 00:13:30 for the exact same reason. And what will happen if China moves into Taiwan? TikTok is going to light up and all of these American TikTokers are going to be like, but Taiwan is China and China has a right
Starting point is 00:13:42 and blah, blah, blah. Taiwan is the Republic of China. Technically, it is China and the CCP is an invading force. I didn't know you had a TikTok. No, I don't actually. We got banned from TikTok. Maybe I do have a TikTok. I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:13:53 I don't think I do. But that's the Republic of China. That's the real government of China, the republic that was basically pushed onto the island by the CCP. Restore the republic. Restore the republic. I love the thing that the West, that America has exported to the world is the awful hyperbolic language like when sergey lavarov the russian foreign minister is talking about the denazification of ukraine and they are nazis i'm like you sound like a 17 year old kid in like a high school debate team like are we all talking on this awful hyperbolic i'm
Starting point is 00:14:20 gonna get rid of the nazis from ukraine it's just it's awful how someone who's been a statesman for 60 years sounds like like a tiktok kid right now like a boomer yeah it's just unbelievable well he's got to hold on to that though because that's now the official line and yeah no he has to it's just embarrassing because i think we need to remember too that you know any of these statements now that that lavrov is making and you're right that he's he's been known as someone who's actually pretty highly respected in the international community even though you know obviously they disagree with him on a lot that all of a sudden he's throwing that away to you know throw off these these little like you know pot shot like wd wwe kind of lines
Starting point is 00:14:58 and the reason is though that's all being played internally yeah right and so they're going to show that to the russian people and they're going to people, and it's going to play into this new narrative. And it's the same narrative that, of course, Biden and all of these companies that are coming out now and banning Russians. Oh, I think I was going to say earlier, Canada has said this Canadian minister of transportation has said they're holding a charter plane in Canada full of Russian nationals, and they're not going to let it go. So the internal narrative in Russia right now is that it's the world versus you. And guess what? The world is playing right into that.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Well, I got to say they crossed the line here. Check out the story from NBC News. They did. International Cat Federation bans Russian felines from competition. We surrender. It is time to give up. Federation International Feline, which hosts over 700 cat shows a year,
Starting point is 00:15:52 said it cannot just witness these atrocities and do nothing. What? Look at these cats! Okay, I can understand the sentiment. I can't witness these atrocities and not do anything. But like that? That's the thing you chose to do that wasn't your only option you like did the russian so so what if like what if an american is a russian cat is that the issue or is it like but or is it like kick him
Starting point is 00:16:13 into the street and some poor dog sorry oliver some poor 60 year old librarian has been waiting to show her russian blue all year and it's like she's from you know Idaho and now she's like what what do you mean I can't go to the cat show it's like you're a communist it's not even that look at that no cat bred in Russia no cat so you could be an American oh okay
Starting point is 00:16:36 they think they're genetically imported or registered in any way but what if that cat is a citizen in another country why is where they came from so important to these people? Those cats are just seeking a better outcome, a better life for themselves. They're refugees. They're family. Have they been bugged?
Starting point is 00:16:54 Is that the problem? Have you just got to ban them? Have you got to ban them? Have you got to ban them? Path to citizenship for those cats? I love this timeline. They're just dreamers. They're just dreamers.
Starting point is 00:17:01 They're dream lines. They're meows. These people like to say... Hold on. You lines. Hold on. You almost got me on that one. The new regulation will last through May 31st and will be reviewed as and when necessary.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Is any of this necessary? To preserve democracy? This is war hysteria. This is the same thing as the mass formation psychosis we heard about during COVID. This is people being like, Russia, I need to put a Ukrainian flag in my Twitter account and ban the cats. Oh, my goodness. There's another sentence here I really have to read.
Starting point is 00:17:39 On top of that, our Ukrainian fellow feline fanciers are desperately trying to take care of their cats and other animals in these trying circumstances. There are far greater concerns there. Far greater concerns. And we're going to retaliate by banning Russian cats? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Stop, stop, stop. The announcement is the latest blow to Russia, which has been hit with sanctions by a number of countries. They're reeling.
Starting point is 00:18:07 What if you own a Russian cat? Do you have to get rid of it? Vladimir Putin is sitting in his chair stroking his cat. That's right. He was like, no, yet, yet. You mean she cannot compete? He looks at his shelf and he's got all of his awards from the cat show. I am a feline fencer.
Starting point is 00:18:27 There was great alliteration in that sentence. Yeah, I got it. Mayakushka. A lot of alliteration. Did you find out if you have a Russian cat or you now – If it was bred in Russia. And they're going to come take it? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Wait, bred in Russia or born in Russia? Bred or – Bred or imported. Because if – well, no, the cat could have been bred there, but then could have given birth in another country. Wait, what? If the cat was impregnated in an anchor kitty... It's anchor kitties.
Starting point is 00:18:54 And you're smart. We've gone from... In 20 minutes, we've gone from the nuclear fire flight to anchor kitties. The most important news comes second. Levity, levity. This is tough because this will be ripping families apart if it goes through. Are you going to separate?
Starting point is 00:19:10 There's a great restaurant in D.C. that is a Russian restaurant. I'm almost reluctant to say the name because I don't want to give them negative. Well, they smash the windows. But they smash the windows. A friend of mine ate there last night and said, I've been coming to this restaurant for like the 20 years I've lived in D.C. And it is a Russian restaurant, but they're Americans. They just have Russian heritage and they make Russian
Starting point is 00:19:28 food. And now there's like a boycott the restaurant. And they must be like, you put me through friggin' COVID and now you're putting me through this? Like, I just make borscht. How am I responsible for this? My response was when I saw FIFA had banned Russian clubs and teams
Starting point is 00:19:43 or whatever from the game, I was just like – it's the stupidest thing ever. And I said, you know what? The Russian people are to blame to all of this. They should be punished. You know what? Hold on. The funny thing is when I tweeted, I despise appeals to emotion. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Yes. The left went nuts. You were trending for like two days. I saw that. That was great. I was specifically referring to the translators, more than one. There were three different translators who cried while translating. And that was the viral story. Of course, I tweeted that because I tweeted about it a bunch of different times.
Starting point is 00:20:19 And I made videos about it. But that doesn't play well when they want to criticize. It's the weirdest thing ever because I've been very pro-Zelensky and been supportive of ukraine the entire time so i don't know what they're trying to smear but when they go when they go nuts on this and then i tweet we jokingly because they're all basically like me just screwing around when i say we must punish russian americans or my favorite tweet was i said whoa how do we know that russian americans aren't secretly working for putin or worse trump that did not make any of them angry or when i said punish russian civilians like that that didn't make anybody angry but how dare you question appeal to the the sobbing translators okay well y'all just banned cats so what gets me
Starting point is 00:20:59 what gets me about removing the russians teams from the video game sports is like uh okay i understand trying like world war ii we put the japanese citizens in internment camps hardcore i don't know if it was the right or wrong move maybe they were spies maybe did the right thing but like i used to play civilization and hitler's never been any ever let any of the german countries if you play civilization you play germany hitler has never been in the game they've eradicated the the memory of that man from the video game still 80 years later they're still eradicating the memory so like yeah the russian teams are gone from sports this year
Starting point is 00:21:30 what if in 80 years they're still like pretending russia never existed it's it's effing terrifying so here's what here's what gets me on all of these you know and it's it's deplatforming deplatforming cancel it we're trying to use use cancel culture the same way that – to affect Russia. But I don't think they kind of – like this was a planned operation. This wasn't like Putin woke up one day and said, oh, we're just going to do this. Did you see the report that apparently Xi Jinping said don't invade until after the Olympics are over? Maybe. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Maybe. I mean there's a lot of propaganda. I'm skeptical. But at the same time, I think this is something that was planned out for months in advance. I guarantee you that Putin went around to all of the top oligarchs, anyone who has any actual sway within Russia,
Starting point is 00:22:17 and explained, this is what's going to happen next year. So you need to set up your stuff, however you want to set it up. And Daniel, you know this. These guys have stuff off the books in every country around the world it's not in their names not in their kids names yeah you can take their yachts because you know it's them but they've got mansions you don't know about they've got planes you don't know about and they're going to use them and they're going to be fine so these sanctions aren't going to hurt anyone important in russia
Starting point is 00:22:41 you're going to hurt the regular people you're going to hurt the disabled athletes that want to go to the Paralympics. You're going to go after the oncology researchers that are trying to help people with cancer in Russia, right? You're going to hurt all of those regular people behind the scenes. That's number one. And number two is you're going to turn all of them not against Putin. They're going to be against you because you put the sanctions on. What would you, if you had been the president when this happened last week, what would have been an adequate response? Well, I mean, at the same time, you have to go back and say, you know, we responded to escalation with more escalation, right?
Starting point is 00:23:18 So we've been ratcheting up things as they've been ratcheting up things. And so from the start, you should have not been doing that that's always the wrong the wrong move obviously i i think uh you know we needed biden to have because we knew the invasion was coming biden should have had a conversation with putin a long time ago and he did and he should have said if you hit ukraine i will hit mask i'm sorry joe biden he should have been like, come on, man. Another joke. If you go get those Iranians. Donald Trump reportedly told Putin, if you try to take Ukraine, I will hit Moscow. He said all those beautiful golden turrets will be destroyed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:53 And my favorite, though, he told Xi the same thing. If you go to Taiwan, I'll hit Beijing. Yeah. And the story was that both Xi and Putin were like kind of shocked that someone would tell them I will kill millions of civilians. If you take a if you engage in a regional conflict, remember, Trump timed the original Syria strikes for when Xi Jinping was meeting at Mar-a-Lago over dinner. And there's, you know, there's a story that as cake was being served, they leaned in and told Xi Jinping that the strikes were taking place. That's right. But do you remember when Putin just met with,
Starting point is 00:24:26 when Biden just met with Putin a couple months ago, he came back and he said, we talked about seven things that I told him were off limits. I mean, right then and there, I was like, well, what if I'm number eight? You know, like, so seven things that you can't hit. Seven American assets. We went through seven things that he can't touch. That was after the cyber attack that closed colonial pipelines.
Starting point is 00:24:46 So right off the bat, Putin, I mean, if anything, he watched the State of the Union. He felt more emboldened. I was going to say, well, I didn't hit any of those seven things, so I'm good to go. And if you watch the Super Bowl halftime show, he's like, they don't deserve to live anymore. We should just invade the West completely. I think people need to recognize that Vladimir Putin is passionate and he's old, which means he's got to make whatever move he's going to make now because he's almost 70 years old. So I think Russia is going to win what they want to win. We already have these crazy stories about NATO's involved.
Starting point is 00:25:20 They're 100% involved. They're just playing weird semantic games. Latvia has apparently voted to allow their citizens to join the fight on the Ukrainian side. Now, how is that not declaring war? It's so ridiculous. Well, our military isn't involved. We're just sending waves of our own citizens with guns into Ukraine
Starting point is 00:25:35 to shoot you. That, to me, is absurd. Plus, you've got the arming. You've got the resources, we'll put it that way, being given to Ukraine. So it's ridiculous that we're at this point where it's like, well, if NATO gets involved, they're involved. So we're back under – this is something that I've noticed kind of zipping around on Twitter, reading a lot of stuff, that we seem to have kind of forgotten the sort of rules of the Cold War, like the reason that we don't go directly bullet bullet to bullet we don't fire upon russian
Starting point is 00:26:06 assets and russian assets don't fire on us so we have these proxy wars right to we had afghanistan throughout the 70s and 8 late 70s early 80s then we had the vietnam war prior to that where again russia of course was supporting the vietcong and supporting the nva and then we got involved in the south but russia didn't actually send you, they may have had a couple advisors, but they didn't send forces down. Same deal with Korea, during the Korean War, Russia didn't get directly involved. They had some air assets, but they sent China in. They had North Korea, but they didn't go in themselves. Same idea for us. We don't want to get into this shooting war with another nuclear power, so we end up doing all these proxy wars and essentially if you're
Starting point is 00:26:45 looking at it from russia's perspective they view the current regime of the government of ukraine and the ukrainian military as an american or at least western proxy force this is since uh 2014 since 2014 what the cia since the coup instigated the coup is it is it like official that the cia was involved or just assumed? I mean, they were certainly involved. The level of involvement is debated, yeah. There were certainly Western assets involved. I mean, you can have a debate about who started it or whether or not it was justified.
Starting point is 00:27:16 But it certainly was U.S.-supported. And that blockaded and hindered their ability to get oil into the Black Sea. So that's why he took Crimea almost instantly after that? Well, I mean, it changed a lot of things, obviously, but they were looking at a situation where, remember, the Russian Black Sea fleet, it's at that port of Sevastopol, has always been there, right? That's always been a Russian naval port. And that's their major port, their major Navy base on the Black Sea. So they were never going to give that up. They just weren't going to. It's their only warm water port.
Starting point is 00:27:45 It also grants them access to the Mediterranean. Yeah, it's cute. Which causes issues with the Bosphorus in Turkey because Turkey controls... Russia's already in a weakened position with that being... Yeah, with Turkey being in NATO, I mean, how do they get through the Bosphorus?
Starting point is 00:28:00 Well, so, I mean... That's why they're taking Ukraine so they can go over land. If you need to get through the Bosphorus, you know, just because Turkey says no doesn't mean you can't get through. Yeah. I think there was a big issue with that because Russia did it. No, no. I think the U.S. did.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Somebody was like, we don't care, and just went. And Turkey was like, eh. Yeah, shipping routes, man. I think the Suez was also underrated. I think a big part of why the military built up in the Middle East that the United States has been doing is to protect the Suez Canal and the shipping. 100%. up in the middle east that the united states has been doing is to protect the suez canal and the shipping 100 but also look at if you want to go through and actually look at what we can see not the apocalyptic you know version of greta thunberg climate change but the actual climate change effects that if you look at that northern sea route that's opening up across uh essentially
Starting point is 00:28:39 the arctic ocean russia is a clear beneficiary of all of this because you can make it from Dalian, China to Rottenburg, Denmark in like two thirds the time or even half the time that you would take that you would need to go through the South China Sea and then the Suez Canal. If you cut that all around, that's the reason that Russia knows that going 15 years from now, they're going to be the ones in charge of that northern sea route. I would advise anyone that's listening to the show to pull up a map, a Google map, or some sort of map and follow along. It's really cool when you type in the names of these places and you can understand geographically what's going on. Let's do this, too.
Starting point is 00:29:15 I got this story out of UPI. Russian warplanes violate Sweden's airspace. Reportedly, Sweden's Air Force dispatched JAS-39 Gripen aircraft in response to two russian su-27s and two su-24s briefly entering its airspace east of gotland island in the baltic sea we also have reports japan says a russian helicopter violated its airspace and scrambled fighter jets to give you context on on the the uh the sheer size of r. We come over here to,
Starting point is 00:29:46 we got Google Earth pulled up. Here's Japan, right? That's Russia right here. There's Vladivostok. And so you've got these islands. We're talking about, what, 50 to 100 miles away from Japan. That's Russia.
Starting point is 00:29:56 If we zoom out and go all the way across Russia over to Europe, check it out. Not only do you have Moscow right here with Finland, you have Kaliningrad, which is right here. It's an oblast. And this is Scotland. So Russia is massive. On top of that, let's just go over
Starting point is 00:30:12 here and point at the fact that Russia is 50 miles from the United States. So they got a lot. They're spread out very thin. It doesn't mean that they can win, but it does mean that they can reach many different people very, very quickly. And if Russia has been preparing this for some time, they can easily move troops and armaments into various regions, very close to many different countries you'd expect to be on the other side of the planet without anyone knowing, or at the very least without setting off alarm bells and pissing anybody off. It their own country it's russia so they put troops in the east and the west and they can effectively be ready to fight on on you know all spheres of the country and one of the things that jack was just talking about when it comes to
Starting point is 00:30:57 the arctic is we've been watching the ukraine build up for a long time the troop build up on the ukraine border for a long time the the putin's army the Ukraine border for a long time. Putin's army buildup in the Arctic has been massive. It gets very little coverage, and the ones who are the most afraid are the Norwegians because they're not members of NATO, right? I don't believe they're even part of the EU. They're the largest oil and gas producer up there, but Russia is saying, no, no, no, this is ours. The Arctic is ours, right?
Starting point is 00:31:21 And there's a reason why clearly they want the Arctic. They are building enormous and have built enormous LNG ports along their north coast. I mean, in terms of— They will export LNG now directly to the world. In terms of military force, I mean, it's pretty clear that Russia does have a strong command presence when it comes to the Arctic at this point. The United States, I think, only has one icebreaker at this point. And it's kind of in... It's always stuck in the ice. It's always... Yeah, very good. But it barely works very well. China has a ton of ice cutters,
Starting point is 00:31:58 but of course, China does not have any actual access to the Arctic. So this is another part of that relationship, this burgeoning relationship that we're seeing between China and Russia. If China wants access to the Arctic, they've got to go through Russia. If Russia wants their financial backstop, they need to go to China. The one, you kick them off swift, well, one belt, one road is right there for you. So, but, you know, Ian, in answer to your question, if I want to curb these, you know, excessive and obviously aggressive and insane behaviors of the curb these, you know, excessive and obviously aggressive and insane behaviors of the Russian government, you know, you can say, all right, we're going to try to put sanctions on Russia, but obviously they've priced that into this proposition. How we tried
Starting point is 00:32:35 putting sanctions or using economic leverage on China, on the oligarchs of the CCP, on CCP leaders going after them, going after the Yuan, using anything that we can there, because obviously China and the United States do not have a strong trade relationship. We never really have, but China and the United States, oh yeah, obviously. Russia, you said China, the first time we said Russia. Excuse me, Russia and the United States, Russia and the United States. You think that's just because we don't have sea routes and we're not right, because China and the United States are kind of right next to each other? I mean, I guess the Russians and the Americans do have plenty of sea connections. They just don't have much to trade what is it why are they not a great trade trade leader
Starting point is 00:33:08 they're so massive is what i'm at who why the russians and america not trade leader is it just because it's like uninhabitable most of russia well most of russia is uninhabitable that those the you're yes on a map it's it's massive but a lot of that area is either unused or it's not arable or they just don't have the people, the population to, uh, Putin was trying to hire, you know, uh, farmers for Siberia at one point or like recruit people to come in and, Oh yeah. Give them a place for free as long as they want the land. Right. They were talking about bringing, you know, the South African farmers up there as a way
Starting point is 00:33:36 to get away from the issues that they were facing, the farm murders down in South Africa. But, um, yeah, for the majority of that area, right. You're, you're really only looking at it in terms of resources. And when it comes to those resources, as Daniel, of course, would be able to explain much better than me, and knows it better than me, you know, we are competitors in those areas. Yeah, it's pretty terrifying to think of the 21st century and all those resources in Russia with the actual amount of power Russia has, which is not that much, and the amount of land they have, which is very, very, very much.
Starting point is 00:34:06 That's why the currency stuff doesn't hit them the way that we would expect it to because they still have the resources. But I would disagree with you saying they're not that powerful. They have, what, like 60% of the military capability of the entirety of NATO? It's substantial.
Starting point is 00:34:21 They have a different type of power. More nukes. Absolutely. But I mean, they are our largest, we are their largest customer for fertilizer, right? Around $800 million a year in fertilizer that now probably we're not going to buy. What are we going to do? We live in a rural area. You're getting ready to harvest in a couple of weeks. What are you putting on your field?
Starting point is 00:34:42 You need about 100 pounds of fertilizer per acre. So if I have a 5,000 acre corn field, what am I... Do I just lose the crop so I have to buy it from somewhere else? So what are corn prices going to do? Wheat prices have already doubled. So what are food... I mean, we're worried about the price of the pump, and I am. I'm an energy guy.
Starting point is 00:35:00 I'm worried about the price of the pump. This November, I can't imagine what food prices are going to be, and you want to see violence wait until people are hungry. I might have of the pump. This November, I can't imagine what food prices are going to be. And you want to see violence. Yo, it's already. Wait until people are hungry. I might have misheard you. I thought you said we sell them.
Starting point is 00:35:11 No, we buy from them. We buy fertilizer from them. Yeah. No, we buy from them. And it's disturbing that we buy it. It's disturbing that we buy so much. Well, no, it's disturbing that it might get cut off. It's disturbing that we buy our pharmaceuticals from China.
Starting point is 00:35:21 And that is what I hate about globalism. Who decided who's the brain trust that said, let's put these things in the hands of our enemies? Let's just point out how moronic the leadership of this country has been. Outsourcing to China, then we get COVID. What does China do? They have their citizens around the world buy up PPE and ship it back to China. We don't make our own medicine you have to be a special kind of stupid to outsource to china and then pick a fight with with with russia who is
Starting point is 00:35:52 going to be who's going to be working with china so now we're in this position where like you brought up fertilizer but we've also got vitamin c antibiotics now you get biden coming out in the state of the union address being like we're're going to be investing in these chips for your computer chips. And he's basically signaling war may be coming and we will lose Taiwan. And I can verify that first thing you said in case anyone thinks that you're lying, which you never would, or you're misrepresenting the truth. Married to an Australian in November of 19, Andrew said, I was talking to my mom. He's from a rural town in the outback and said, my mom said the weirdest thing happened. Like she was at the grocery and this bus of some Chinese people got up and they bought
Starting point is 00:36:34 everything. She said, like, what the heck was that? She said, and then like neighbors talk. This is November of 19. He was saying, it's so weird. Everyone I talked to in my little town says a van of Chinese people will show up and they will buy everything in the store and it will disappear. It was reported that China told their citizens in other countries to buy PPE and send it back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Well, it's interesting because we've been talking a little bit about nuclear weaponry and mutually assured destruction. One thing not a lot of people consider is that biological weaponry is also considered to be a weapon or a form of a weapon of assured destruction. One thing not a lot of people consider is that biological weaponry is also considered to be a weapon or a form of a weapon of mass destruction. And China literally created one and released it. I know that there's still some debate around that technically, but I think it's pretty straightforward. Wow. I would say, yeah, well, it's so elaborate,
Starting point is 00:37:19 but if a country accidentally detonated a nuke in another nation, I don't think we would give them a pass because it wasn't intentional. This is, again, to the moronic nature of our leadership. For Fauci to be working in any way with any groups that were working with China, you are working with a group that despises you. The Chinese Communist Party does not like us. They want to displace us. They've insulted us. They outright say they want to take Taiwan. They want to displace us. They've insulted us. They outright say they want to take Taiwan.
Starting point is 00:37:48 They press the South China Sea. They sink Vietnamese ships. This is not a country we should be like, let's give them more stuff. Let's give them more access, more resources, more authority. And it's just the sheer absurdity of the U.S. picking a fight while giving things away. It's the craziest thing. I suppose the neoliberal idea is that if we build trade lines, we won't go to war. Well, that was Clinton and the Golden Arches.
Starting point is 00:38:14 The Golden Arches theory is a version of it, the idea that two nations that have a McDonald's have never gone to war with each other. Which is not true. It's not true now. So it's interesting because it is the case that countries that stop trading with each other are more likely to go to war. Libertarians down hard. Yeah. But that said, yeah, I mean, a huge part of this, I think it's just indicative of our total inability to defer gratification as a people.
Starting point is 00:38:38 So there's this country that we're trying to pick fights with while at the same time still giving away our resources to them because there's a short-term gain in it for us, we're not actually thinking about a long-term strategy here when they very much are. I wouldn't say that not trading with a country makes you more likely to go to war with them. I don't think that's a fair correlation. Oh, that's fair. I'm saying there's... I'm not... Okay, that's fair.
Starting point is 00:38:58 But trading with a country... It's corollary. It's not impossible to say. They were saying it the other way around, that if you trade, then you will not go to war. It creates a disincentive to go to war. This is what we were told in the 90s when we gave China most favored nation status under Clinton. As they begin to grow and become a trading partner and as they get a taste of our world. It will open them up and it will make them more transparent.
Starting point is 00:39:17 And what they did is they polluted capitalism. They get better access to Halliburton and uh it's raytheon a very bizarre almost marxist idea that the way we solve people's problems is just by increasing access to resources or building wealth and it's an issue of materialism yeah so we do see it with hyper capitalist uh ideologies as well but they they meld together very it's very ironic because people see like hyper capitalism and communism is being diametrically opposed but the reality is this idea that we can solve people's problems simply through materialism and that they will become more evolved and better people because their wealth has grown is obviously completely backwards and we're seeing the effects of that now with china look at what
Starting point is 00:39:57 we did in afghanistan we gave them all ipads but they don't have internet material it's like well there you go congratulations guys i think we need the.S. government to heavily invest in some kind of public infrastructure for protecting the American people from nuclear war. Perhaps we could build big underground vaults, and we'd call the company something related to that, like Vault Tech. Vault Tech. Vault Tech. And we would number each vault. In order to communicate, could we have certain armbands? Yes.
Starting point is 00:40:27 As an example. Absolutely. Like a computer? That would actually... Well, I'm... Where? What would you even call something like that? What would you even call something like that?
Starting point is 00:40:35 I don't know. Now, since the U.S. dollar is going completely... Pip-boy or something? Oh, I like it. Since the U.S. dollar is going out of... Is being devalued, what could we use as currency in this situation? I don't know. I would use... Oh, hey! No, don't know. I would use the U.S. dollar.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Oh, hey. No, no, no. I actually have an idea. The most logical answer to that question would be soda bottle caps. I can't think of anything else that would be better than soda bottle caps. Well, it's metal. You can melt the metal down. It's very easy.
Starting point is 00:40:55 It wouldn't make any sense to use ammo. I want to point out. Daniel's like, what is going on right now? I assume it's a movie or a video game. Fallout. I don't know what we're talking about. I didn't even play. I just know the lore.
Starting point is 00:41:06 I want to point out real quick. I'm old. When Jack said we could wear something on our wrists in Fallout, you have the Pip-Boy. And the Pip-Boy shows your health status. I'm literally wearing a whoop. You're pretty close. I can pull up my health status and my heart rate and stuff. But it doesn't have the graphics.
Starting point is 00:41:21 But check it out. When I was getting sick, the whoop knew I was sick before I knew I was sick. Of course. And so did Google. Of course. So did Jeff Bezos. Yeah. The Chinese found out.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Get his daily Tim Pool report. Jeff Bezos is like – he like wakes up and he goes to grab his coffee and then he like opens a tap and he goes, oh, Tim's sick. Dude, wouldn't it be hilarious if there was just this long con sabotaging or like this idea of warfare where the companies that own that uh ip are actually like selling it to china and china ever so tweaks like i i know this is healthy for him we're going to tell him to do the less healthy thing instead of the thing that's morally for him because we're going to weaken him as a person you'll notice people didn't really laugh when you said that that's kind of freakishly possible do you think so oh yeah people drive to the swamps because their google maps tell them to sometimes.
Starting point is 00:42:05 No, I think it's possible that people would listen to that. Absolutely. I'm half joking about this because it seems like such a tiny little thing. Guys, before we get too far off this, so the nuclear plant situation. Ton of, and this is a tweet from Ilya Lazovsky, the actual nuclear specialists are coming out of the woodwork to say that, no, we would not see a Marvel movie-style explosion. Yes, it is bad. Fuel could leak. There could be radiation that comes out of that.
Starting point is 00:42:33 But let's not retweet government pronouncements uncritically. It is a different kind of reactor than Chernobyl. You can scram it. You can do emergency shutdowns. The concrete shells they have on this thing are capable of being hit by aircraft weighing 20 tons and not melting down. And Ian, you and I were just talking about this before. The reason Chernobyl melted down is because they were running a test and the test went crazy. It wasn't just some random fire that broke out and then it ignited everything. And Chernobyl, because it exploded, it shot fissile material into the atmosphere, I believe,
Starting point is 00:43:06 and then it blanketed the area. So like if the corium just melts, it just falls into the earth. It just falls down and then hits the cement and then melts through the cement and keeps melting through the ground until it clears down. So fortunately for everybody out there, crazy as it is, you are not in a situation where this thing could melt down over this. Hey, they turned the chat on, it looks like. Oh, no. Okay, no, they stopped it.
Starting point is 00:43:26 I see. The stream ended. They did have a chat. Oh, they stopped the stream. Yeah, stream ended. Now, that would have been – We'll see if they have a new one. They have a new live stream up.
Starting point is 00:43:32 They have a new one up? Yeah. But does that have the chat up? Disabled for the live stream, yeah. Chat is disabled. Oh, I still have a chat going, but maybe it's – They disabled the chat for the nuclear firefight. I can't tell.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Can you imagine being able to see the chat? The APCs are still there. The artillery is still there. Can you imagine if we were able to document other historic events like that? If we were able to watch live streams that had occurred of events in World War II and see the chat? Pick a charge. And a lot of people were just like, yeah. I still have a chat on mine.
Starting point is 00:44:03 You getting that? Really? Oh, you're on a different one. Yeah, someone else has aggregated a bunch of people were just like, yeah. I still have a chat on mine. You getting that? Really? Oh, you're on a different one. Yeah, someone else has aggregated a bunch of live feeds. Hastings.com, like, oh, he's arrived. William's here. Well, I wonder. The charge of the light brigade.
Starting point is 00:44:14 I wonder how much of it would just be like crazy, insane memes, too, because I feel like what it's going to be today. No, it was. I was talking about this, the Megaminds Ukrainians with massive balls meme. And I'm like, it was a really garbage meme. But you've got intelligence agencies spamming pro-Ukraine propaganda. It works to a certain degree. Look at all the people that have put the Ukrainian flags in their Twitter profiles.
Starting point is 00:44:37 I'll tell you one of the things that really triggered the establishment, the lefty activists, was when I said – I noticed everyone was flying West Virginia's colors. I was like, it's about time everyone recognized how awesome the state is because, you know, West Virginia University uses blue and gold. They got pissed at me for that. I was like, why are you so mad? It's a joke about the colors for West Virginia. Calm down. I think they really believe this is like the end of Western civilization.
Starting point is 00:45:01 This is like the beginning of the end of Western civilization. People have been so freaked out and manipulated by Russia. I understand the fear of the Soviet Union, communist nuclear missile crisis, but Russia is not the Soviet Union. It's a federation. You can argue there are a bunch of oligarchs in control over there as well as you could argue that in America that there are. And in China, apparently, oligarchs are running the show.
Starting point is 00:45:18 And in Ukraine. And in Ukraine. But I do love what you said because you have heard that a lot from politicians. This is an attack on Western civilization. We have to defend Western civilization. And the first thing I thought of was if six weeks ago I said something
Starting point is 00:45:31 about Western civilization, you would have called me like a white nationalist. That's true. No, you're right. You're absolutely right. So now we love Western civilization again. You see Joe Biden? When he said that the people of Ukraine are fighting for their homeland and they have an iron will. iron will and it was lauren southern pointed out pointed
Starting point is 00:45:49 this out she was like that was like every racist dog whistle that if trump said that they would start writing article after article saying it so especially her argument was he was accidentally racist by their own standards and she's right she's right yeah yeah absolutely just ignored it so you know what they're doing, by the way, with this? They are going to, I guarantee you, they are going to try to use this nuclear plant situation as a way to get a no-fly zone instituted. You watch.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Yeah. That's exactly what, I can see this is where it's going to go. They're going to turn around and say, you have to institute this because of the recklessness that we're seeing, because of the shelling, and you're going to have to institute a no-fly zone at whatever the cost whatever i assure you in the event that happens they're going to liken it to chernobyl they're going to say the risks of another chernobyl should never be allowed oh my goodness so we are instituting a no-fly zone vladimir putin mark my
Starting point is 00:46:40 words i didn't see chernobyl the movie but was it scare tactic or was it accurate? It was a TV show, wasn't it? I thought it was fantastic. I thought it was very well done, actually. Did it scare people into nuclear fear? Oh, big time. Big time. I mean, if you're someone who's anti-nuclear, that's the movie you want everywhere. The Fukushima meltdown scared Angela Merkel into canceling her whole country's nuclear reactors.
Starting point is 00:47:03 And you want to say, but Germany doesn't have a lot of tsunamis, Angela. You shouldn't be worried about that. Let me tell you, Angela Merkel, if a tsunami hit Germany, nuclear fallout is the least of your problems, right? You've got a lot bigger. But she shut down the entire country's nuclear program. Now they're buying
Starting point is 00:47:19 LNG from Russia, and they're afraid to sanction that. Liquid natural gas. Which is methane. Yeah. And because they don't have enough energy LNG from Russia, and they're afraid to sanction that. LNG, that- Liquid natural gas. Which is methane. Which, because- Yeah, yeah, yeah. Almost predominantly, yeah. And because they don't have enough energy. Are there other natural gases than methane that are- No, that's the predominant one, is methane.
Starting point is 00:47:35 And if you look at Germany, like, the amount of coast they have, it's not that much. So, you know, where are they shutting down these nuclear power plants? It's just, Greta Thunbergberg comes out and she said those magic words. She said, how dare you? And everyone just collapsed and grasped their hearts and realized how wrong they were. For years, we were talking about it. Dan, you and I used to talk about this when we were doing One American News, that it was always the Russians that were funding these anti-fracking groups for years and if you turn on so okay they banned rt right so rt america isn't there i think they're still
Starting point is 00:48:10 up on youtube for now you can go to rt.com and it was down for a little bit today well no they're there so let's let's do this what was interesting and you know not to get into the censorship angle but you could see what russia's strategic interests were based on the story selection there. And a huge chunk of their programming was devoted towards green groups, was devoted to anti-fracking, was devoted to this. So then you could watch that and you could say, oh, well, that's something that Russia wants to push. I wonder why that is. And then I talked to a guy who understands energy. But you sound sound like a lunatic if you said that just a couple years ago. People are like, oh, take your tinfoil hat off.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Like, oh, he wants to watch RT to find out what the Russians want. No, doesn't that make sense? Let me pull the story out. Let me tell you about RT. We got this story from TimCast.com. Staff of RT America laid off as network announces it is halting production. In a memo to its employees, RT America cited unforeseen business interruption events. Yeah, it could be war.
Starting point is 00:49:05 But let me tell you something. It's just a war in quotes. Let me tell you about Russia Today and Sputnik. I was at the RT and Sputnik offices in 2016 during the election with Cassandra Fairbanks, and the people in that office, every single one save Cassandra, was a pro-D-democrat pro-hillary activist or individual they were crying when donald trump started winning and then when he won people were crying how many rubles were you paid to say that to him zero rubles all of the rubles we all we know we know from the dossier that the ukrainians had nothing to do with that Russia wanted Trump to win.
Starting point is 00:49:45 We know this. Well, you look at the content that RT has promoted, the people they've hired. They're anti-war, anti-establishment, and typically leftists. Like during Occupy Wall Street, people were like, oh, yeah, RT. Like I knew a ton of people during Occupy would be like, you got to watch RT because they were the ones telling the truth about Occupy Wall Street. Or another way to put it is promoting anti-establishment protests in the United States that could potentially destabilize. I thought RT and Al Jazeera were great sources during the Syrian con when they wanted to go and invade Syria. I was like, what's really going on? And it was like people like Lee Camp.
Starting point is 00:50:20 People like Lee Camp speaking out against the Syrian war on RT. I don't know if he was on his RT show at that point. If he had started redacted the night of that point. know if he was on his rt show at that point if he had started redacted tonight at that point or he's still on his first show lee camp he's uh anti-war i've known him for a long time i always thought of him as more of a lefty guy redacted tonight was a show in rt says redacted tonight has been canceled because the u.s war machine can't handle the truth if you want to follow my work go to lee camp.com but not only that his show on Spotify. So let me see. He retweeted it a while ago. It's probably on mine. I don't know if Twitter's going to let me pull it up cause I can make me log in. So here we go. His, his podcast on Spotify has
Starting point is 00:50:55 been taken down as well, which is insane. Cause I don't think it had anything to do with, uh, come on, you're going to load or not. Twitter is so stupid. Let me see if I can pull it up again. I don't think it's showing anything to do with, there we go, with Russia Today. He says, a great deal of anti-war and leftist shows are currently being deleted by Spotify, including my personal podcast, Moment of Clarity. You can continue to get all of my stuff by signing up for my email list at LeeCamp.com and RadIndyMedia.com. My question is, if that's just Lee Camp's personal podcast, which he also has on YouTube,
Starting point is 00:51:26 Moment of Clarity, he's got 18,000 subscribers, why did he get banned from Spotify? This is irrational fear porn. It's the Russian fear. He was hired by RT? He's an American citizen. RT America.
Starting point is 00:51:37 I mean, yeah, technically RT, I guess it's paying his bills, but that doesn't mean they're telling him what to say. Look at this. Rachel Blevins, who does not work for RT anymore because RT doesn't exist, is labeled Russian state-affiliated media on Twitter. She's never going to be able to get rid of that. None of these people are. I hope they do. I mean, oh, this is something I want to talk about. Imagine how long after you
Starting point is 00:51:57 commit a crime or some sort of transgression, do you have to bear the title of that? Just think about what this means moving forward, the hysteria. When they are labeling people as Russians, what happens if this war escalates? You think internment camps are the question? You would be wrong. No, of course not. Especially if, as you said, food's going to get a lot more expensive and the establishment isn't going to say that it has anything to do with their irresponsibility in printing trillions of dollars and debasing our currency. It's because of what the Russians are doing in Ukraine. Blame them. It's their fault.
Starting point is 00:52:27 And your Russian next-door neighbor, if you happen to have one, is just as culpable as anybody else or more culpable than we are, certainly. And so, no, it's not out of the question. When food gets expensive and you have to decide who gets it, then the prisoners are not the ones. Dude, they're going to scapegoat some. I'm not saying it's necessarily going to be the Russians, but they're going to scapegoat some. I'm not saying it's necessarily going to be the Russians, but they're going to scapegoat somebody for their irresponsibility.
Starting point is 00:52:49 It's already started. It's clearly already started. They're being scapegoated. They're being scapegoated for the inflation. And not just ever. If you're from Russia, if you're from Belarus, and I've talked to Belarusians. I've heard from Russians about this.
Starting point is 00:53:01 I heard you're sleeping with a Belarusian. Oh, yeah. That's one way to put it. They hate this. They hate this war. But you have to understand they are underneath their regimes. Right. These are not democracies. You can't actually judge this the exact same way that you would somewhere else. Right. And I don't remember the United States getting completely canceled. Every American canceled because of the Iraq war, the Iraq invasion, which was, by the way, yes, unilateral invasion. Obviously, that doesn't justify the aggression that Putin's doing right now.
Starting point is 00:53:31 But at the same time, you have to look at this and say, look, these people are subjects of their regimes. They're subjects of authoritarian leaders like Lukashenko, like Putin. They don't have any way to effectively respond. Yeah, they can protest and then they all get arrested just like up in Canada, another bastion of democracy up there. And so you're going to turn around and yet blame all of the people
Starting point is 00:53:52 who just want to live their lives, who literally just want to live their lives and don't want to be involved in this. I don't think that our invasion of Iraq and Libya, our current invasion that we are doing right now, we're invading those countries right now. I don't think it justifies the invasion, but it definitely explains it. Well, it destroys our moral standing in the
Starting point is 00:54:09 world. And so how can you turn around from a governmental perspective and say, well, we disagree with you doing that when you look at what the United States, by the way, yes, through NATO has done throughout the years, right? And so when you look at Libya, when you look Afghanistan, when you look at Iraq, you just go around, you could literally walk place to place to place it's nothing but death and destruction other than you know the protection of some parts of europe which has been why is someone yelling yeah what's up dude i watched oh this is this is the live stream okay this is uh that's the live stream oh no no that is... Oh, that's the live stream. No, no. That's the next video. Yeah, it's the next video. Yeah, Zapatizka.
Starting point is 00:54:46 I watched a video on Uday Hussain last night because Rogan, I heard him mention, he was talking to Majid Nawaz on his show about how horrible Saddam's kids were. And I was like, oh, yeah. So Uday Hussain, it looks like he was just like daddy's little boy who Saddam beat the hell out of growing up.
Starting point is 00:55:00 And then daddy was like, you can have anything you want, son, anything. Every video you find of Uday, he's tripping his balls off. It's like he just takes psychedelics it's like he's in a dude and he just beat that he would just abuse i mean the human atrocities okay yeah this is a little off topic but america went in saying we got to stop human atrocity and uday was putting people in like bleeding machines he was a psychopath But still, the invasion is completely irrational. Let me pull up this tweet from Kyle Griffin.
Starting point is 00:55:28 Kyle Griffin, of course, what is he? MSNBC producer says, the National Association of Broadcasters has issued a statement calling on broadcasters to stop carrying Russian-sponsored programming that's affiliated with the Russian government or its agents. And what are the responses? What do you think people are saying?
Starting point is 00:55:42 What are they saying? Who are its agents? No, they're saying Fox is off the air. Does that include Fox? Ooh, no good for Fox. Right, so who gets labeled a Russian agent now? Because I remember in the Mueller investigation during all of Russiagate, everyone was labeled a Russian agent.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Everyone. Yeah, so this is my prediction. They're going to start calling all Russians bad and then they're going to start calling all Republicans Russians. Well, they've been doing that for seven years. I think National Association of Broadcasters, the CEO of that, is still Biden's best friend, Chris Dodd.
Starting point is 00:56:15 I'm pretty sure. I have to look at that. I thought Senator Dodd was the head of the NAB, which would be interesting. I mean, every trade association has a former senator. Remember the Dodd-Kennedy sandwich? Yeah, exactly. That same Chris Dodd. That Chris Dodd. It be interesting. I mean, every trade association has a former senator. Remember the Dodd-Kennedy sandwich? Yeah, exactly. That same Chris Dodd. That Chris Dodd.
Starting point is 00:56:28 It's interesting. I mean, we've said this before. The left constantly projects, and so that's part of why they're always accusing everyone else of being racist. They are extremely obsessed with race and ethnic identity. That's why they say things like, even if a person isn't white, when they're doing something that favors the system or the patriarchy,
Starting point is 00:56:47 they are acting as a white supremacist. They're acting in the stead of whiteness. And now with all this going on, of course, it's all Russians, even ones who have absolutely nothing to do with the conflict, even though most of them living in the country had absolutely no ability to make any decision whether or not Ukraine was going to be invaded. Yeah, exactly. They're all being slapped with this label and in the same way uh in the same way that you often see black political commentators who happen to be conservative labeled as white or white supremacists i agree with with uh lydia that we're going to see people being labeled as russian or russian adjacent uh Now – or at the very least that that's very possible. You've got to look back at history to see what will happen now that we can consider to be a rhyme. History doesn't repeat in rhymes.
Starting point is 00:57:32 So what could happen now? Well, freezing of bank accounts. Already seen it. Yep, yep. Suspension of accounts through other – like Airbnb and things like that, other services. Being totally removed from social media. They have put a label on Rachel Blevins. This is creepy stuff.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Maybe they'll change Russian. Russian state-affiliated media. She doesn't work there anymore. Twitter should remove it immediately. Lee Camp having his personal podcast deleted for simply having worked for RT in a separate capacity. It was completely deleted off Spotify. Spotify.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Does he have cop backups? Oh, it's on YouTube as well. YouTube hasn't taken it down. But this is where it starts getting really creepy, where they're basically going to start labeling people as like lessers or it's like the others. They're going to say, are you an other? Was that a Black Mirror episode?
Starting point is 00:58:26 What was that movie or TV show? I don't know if you guys remember that one where people are like, are you an other? I think it was a movie. Yeah, it was a movie where some guy is like, you know, here's on TV. A politician say something about I don't want to repeat it because YouTube. I know what you're talking. I think I think I passed it in out of the room as you guys were watching this. It wasn't Black Mirror, but it was a similar anthology series.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, what was it? Creep Show maybe or something? I don't know. But it's like the TV. A politician says something about like all others are bad. It's like some new TV show. And literally says –
Starting point is 00:58:56 Very on the nose. Is it Channel Zero maybe? I don't know. I watch a bunch of these weird sci-fi things. And then he goes around and he's like, what was that the other day when they're talking about the others? And they're like, why do you care? Are you another? And he goes, no, no, I just saw that.
Starting point is 00:59:08 And like, what is that about? And they were like, you're not defending others, are you? And he was like, no, no, I just don't understand. And then eventually, the more he started asking questions about why you're demonizing others, they said, you must be an other.
Starting point is 00:59:20 And he sees like a woman running on the street screaming help and they're just beating the crap out of her. And he's like, why are you doing that? And they're like, she's an other. And he's like, well, stop hitting her. You must be an other. And he sees like a woman running on the street screaming help and they're just beating the crap out of her. And he's like, why are you doing that? And they're like, she's an other. And he's like, well, stop hitting her. And they're like, you must be an other too. That's where we're going. Russians. They're going to ban you.
Starting point is 00:59:34 They're going to shut you down. They're going to put a label on you. Let me correct myself. Chris Dodd is Motion Picture Association. They're going to make it clear. They are going to make you wear a tag on your social media profiles, identifying you as Russian state affiliated media. And 30 years ago, Seinfeld did that skit with the AIDS ribbon. Who?
Starting point is 00:59:57 Hey, I marched. I marched. I don't want to wear the ribbon. Who? Who does not want to wear the ribbon? That's where we are now so we were at the at the um the state of the union and it's and by the way you know i look at that stuff and i saw there was like a photo op that they did with this like american ukrainian flag thing i hate what
Starting point is 01:00:16 up today i hate that so you're defacing our flag that by the way that is a defacement that's actually the you have changed the face of the flag that's where the word defacement comes from uh of the flag itself um in order to do that so you're not actually going to do anything for the people of ukraine you you sold them all this all these weapons and you provoked russia you talked about them joining nato so you lied to them about that you sold them as false promise now that russia is pissed off they're attacking you um they've gone completely insane so they're shelling cities at this point they're using artillery on cities and russia is not going to stop because this is how russia fights um and the meanwhile instead of you know actually helping the ukrainian people that you promised you're not going to do
Starting point is 01:00:58 that but you're going to hold photo ops and you're going to put on lapel pins and put up hashtags as if that's actually going to stop anyone from dying. The show was Electric Dreams. Thank you for Waffle Sensei for us. Yeah, Electric Dreams. Awesome show, by the way. That episode, seriously, I talked about it before. You guys should watch. It's the last episode.
Starting point is 01:01:16 It's an anthology series. I thought it was absolutely fantastic. Can I ask? The otherization of people. Yeah, that's brilliant. Can I ask? The otherization of people. Yeah, that's brilliant. Can I ask something here? Does Twitter do this with people who are affiliated with state media, generally speaking, or are they only doing this to people affiliated with Russian state media? I think they do it with Chinese state media.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Yeah, they do. Okay. But do they do it to the BBC? No. Or the CBC? What about Indian state media? That's a great point. There's a lot of Indian state media.
Starting point is 01:01:41 And NPR? Yeah. Well, I think, what does NPR get like? A microscopic fortune. Yeah, Al Jazeera. It's a small percent. All of Al Jazeera is owned by the Qatari government. So it's a mirror of Qatar.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Al Jazeera, AJ Plus, all the rest of it. Well, you know what the amazing thing was about the demonization of Russia today, which always confused me, was that Al Jazeera Plus pushed the exact same opinions as RT for the most part. For the most part, yeah. And it was funded by the Qatari government, yet it was never demonized. And I was confused by this. It was clear the issue was the nation of Russia
Starting point is 01:02:12 and not the propaganda of, you know, it's not the messaging of what they're doing. It's the fact that Russia owns it. So if another channel is state-owned and does literally the same thing, promoting the exact same things, who cares? I just find it very interesting that the elite and the ruling class have absolutely no problem with information being imported into our country that's going to destabilize our unity as a country. It just bothers them on the basis of who's doing it.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Yeah, because they're the only ones who want to be able to do it. Exactly. It's useful to them. I want to see Joe Biden come out and say, President Zelensky, you have our support, but you must condemn the Azov battalion. We will not tolerate neo-Nazism. I want to see him stand by his campaign message about white nationalism and white supremacy and offer up his support to Zelensky and Ukraine, but condemn the neo-Nazis of the Azov battalion. Tim, didn't you know that the entire reason Joe Biden decided to run for president was Charlottesville? He's literally been on the record saying that. That's the entire reason he decided to run for president. So why isn't he saying something about this? Yeah, Azov battalion, no joke. Majid Nawaz on the show last night was really trying to hammer this one home. So what's happening is people from around the world are going to Ukraine to fight with the Azov,
Starting point is 01:03:27 and then they're getting radicalized. And then when this is done, what he sees happening or what he fears is that they're going to go back home, newly radicalized and with all this military training now, and then spread this Nazism around the world. It's the Mujahideen all over again. It's going to be like the Syrian rebels to ISIS. You are going to have these people go there, be radicalized, fight for an ideology, and then maintain that. Or you're going to empower people of radical ideology with military training and capabilities. And we know where that goes. But I tell you this, man.
Starting point is 01:03:58 History rhymes. The U.S. continually does this. And it's almost like they like doing it. It's good for whatever it is. I shouldn't even say the U.S. The halliburton yeah the military industrial complex for sure well and we know how it works anyone who can be even tangentially associated with the right is a person who we can blame the entirety of the conservative movement for every single thing that they do so they're constantly conflating regular conservatives with the far right, with Nazis, etc.
Starting point is 01:04:25 And so if there are these attacks, if Majid's prediction comes true, and I think it's a very interesting and compelling one, then what's going to happen is you will have neo-Nazis engaging in violence more often because they'll have acquired combat experience. And then what's going to happen is they're going to say, look at the rise in far right violence. Now we need to censor regular run-of-the-mill conservatives because it was them who radicalized people by pushing them down these rabbit holes which turned them into nazis it's also an excuse to ramp up federal military police when you have internal strife like nazism yeah absolutely y'all know about the office of censorship in the united states the office of censorship was an emergency wartime agency agency set up in the u.S. from December 19, 1941 to aid in the censorship of all communications coming into and out of the United States, including its territories in the Philippines. The efforts of the Office of Censorship to balance the protection of sensitive war-related information with the constitutional freedoms of the press is considered largely successful.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Largely successful. Oh, largely successful. Oh, it was amazing. Thank you, Wikipedia, for telling us about the successful office of censorship. Loose lips sink ships. The fact is, look at that. Thanks, Ike, the censors. Why would we not see the same thing in a World War III scenario?
Starting point is 01:05:40 Or even, maybe we wouldn't even call it World War III. Maybe we enter into full-scale war with just Russia alone and NATO. Why would we not see this same effort? Well, we saw this effort with COVID. Exactly. I was just about to say, didn't we have the Biden administration pressuring social media companies to remove information that they consider to be misinformation? But I'm saying escalate to the next degree. The FCC commissioner nominee who is up, I can't remember her name right now, but they're trying to block it.
Starting point is 01:06:04 This is exactly her position. We just saw, we just went through two years of understanding what it was that the amount of people, the critical mass amount of people would go along with, and they ratcheted things up, and they ratcheted things up in the name of crisis, in the name of national emergency, and they just had a huge system-wide test
Starting point is 01:06:26 of everything that they could roll out without seeing any meaningful pushback whatsoever and in canada they're about a year ahead of us and you know what i'll add this tim maybe this is a little bit of a black pill here but i don't think we'd have another office of censorship because we don't need one yeah we already have google exactly Google. Exactly. They just flip a switch. You're done. Or Alphabet, rather. It's even more terrifying. They have like 13 companies, which are like AI.
Starting point is 01:06:50 We are the Alphabet. Alphabet is the name of the company. It's funny because we also have the Alphabet agencies. Yeah. Right. It's not a coincidence. Yeah. They're probably like, we're kind of like one of those Alphabet companies.
Starting point is 01:07:02 And they're like, yeah, we are. Alphabet. We'll just call ourselves alphabet. You know, at some point, I wonder if Google was, you know, doing all this really great work and they were like, don't be evil, guys. And then some, you know, some bureaucratic administrative state guy walks in and says, we're taking over. And the first thing we got to do is, guys, that slogan, don't be evil. We're evil. Come on.
Starting point is 01:07:23 That's the new model. They were trying to get rid of a double negative. When you say don't be evil, people hear evil, evil, evil, and then they just start thinking it. But when you write it and you read it, it interacts with your brain differently than when you hear it. No, Ian, they're just evil. Well, that might be true too. It's different people that own the company now. Like Larry and Sergey were pretty cool, but man, did that thing get out of hand.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Aren't they still in alphabet though? Partially. I just saw that Sergey sold a bunch of stock last July, I think. Maybe it was Larry. One of them sold like, I don't know how many millions of dollars worth of stock. They want to control what you think. They need to rally
Starting point is 01:07:55 people behind. This is why they got so triggered when I said I despise appeals to emotion, because I'm directly calling out what is very obvious propaganda. Crying translators? Yep. No, no, no. Hold on there a minute, appeals to emotion because i'm directly calling out what is very obvious propaganda crying translators yeah no no hold on there a minute man the job of a translator is to translate why would you hire someone or keep someone on the job if they're crying you'd be like like i said before you'd be like oh no he's crying let's get him into the break room and have some coffee and
Starting point is 01:08:19 take a breath and get someone else in there who can do their job you know and because it's manipulation to follow up with what you said seam, like we don't really need an office of censorship. They closed the office of censorship in 1945 when the war ended. But basically then they started the liberal economic order within like eight months. And I think they just winded in all that censorship ability into this new spy network of Five Eyes or the global military industrial complex. Well, I mean it's interesting because for a long time you had, what was it, the three and then the five major networks that everyone got all of their information from,
Starting point is 01:08:51 and that was wonderful for them because it was very easy to control what people were seeing and hearing. And then the Internet popped up, and now it seemed as if there was a threat. People could get their information from everywhere. But fortunately for them and unfortunately for us, a lot of that power has been consolidated and we're not quite back in the same position, but in some ways we're getting there. I'm optimistic on some level that we won't quite be able to get back to that. But at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter if people are too scared to speak the truth and most seem to be. Self-censorship is as effective as forceful censorship in a way.
Starting point is 01:09:25 Yeah. Well, it's interesting. There have been studies which have suggested that people are better capable or would prefer to endure physical pain over social rejection. Wow. Yeah. And it's psychological suffering. Well, I know psychological suffering in general. And so if people feel as if they are being rejected by the group or they fear being rejected by the group for stating something, they're going to be very likely to keep quiet. And the same way that they'd be likely to keep quiet if they thought someone would physically aggress upon them for speaking out. So this is what the Stasi got into towards the – everybody – you watch the Lives of Others, one of the greatest movies on communist surveillance systems and the programs that they had, people informing each other in East Germany. So that was the 1960s. By the 1970s, 1980s, the Stasi wasn't running these massive surveillance programs anymore, and they weren't running these massive incarceration programs the way they're depicted in that film. What they ended up doing was they realized that if you were a dissident, if you were someone who was a troublemaker, they had a problem with you.
Starting point is 01:10:30 It's exactly what shame is just laying out. First thing they would do is start to ostracize you and then they would start to shame you. They would smear you in the media. They would drag your name through the mud. They would essentially blacklist you and they would make it so that the social shame upon everyone else of even associating with you would be enough to destroy you. And it was actually much cheaper and far more effective than throwing you in prison and making a potential martyr of you. I wonder about this.
Starting point is 01:10:57 Like, how is a show like this possible in these? We're literally saying that. Partly because it's a group of us. Wing and a prayer. Haven't you had the SWAT team come like five times? Yeah, I mean, six. I mean, so how is it possible? It is possible for now.
Starting point is 01:11:13 But look at the forces trying to shut it down. I still feel like we're in the prelude. Yeah, I think a lot of it has to do with a large enough group of people communicating these ideas makes it hard to stop the idea. If it's one person alone in their room on a webcam, then you get swatted. That's why when I see censorship, I do speak out against it. Even if it's someone I don't particularly agree with or don't particularly like or support, the idea that one person or one entity just has this ability to blanket wipe out all communications,
Starting point is 01:11:46 right? That's actually a much bigger issue than some idiot on a podcast that I don't listen to. Yeah. The vulnerability of our system isn't talked about enough from comet strikes to floods, to earthquakes, to volcanic super eruptions, to just a power outage from a solar flare or like... Well, you're seeing these... For example, you're seeing these stories that... So Google and Apple Pay are shut down in Russia. And so suddenly, because they went cashless, now people are saying,
Starting point is 01:12:13 wait, how do I get on the subway? How do I pay for things in stores? How do I do this? And so we've outsourced... If you're signed up for all these things, now you're outsourcing your very ability to function in society to silicon valley so that gives them that i mean this is we're talking about sovereign power
Starting point is 01:12:31 that you're giving artificial never go cashless we can never go cashless we can never go i mean that has to be within our our dna as as like a fight to the death we can never be a cashless society so you think we need we need some sort of federal power that deigns that currency valuable? I think you need a physical, not necessarily cash, but I think we have to have a system that you can have a physical commodity
Starting point is 01:12:53 that I can hide under my bed because if Jack doesn't like me and he's able to call the guys who own Apple Pay and say, shut down his account, if I can't go to the grocery store, if I can't buy things, if my credit, quote unquote, is stuck in my phone and my phone is useless because Jack doesn't like me, then I'm a powerless, I have no agency left.
Starting point is 01:13:13 You're lucky I like you. You're lucky. I want to add a caveat to something I said earlier. I wanted to pull up information about what I referenced. What I was referencing, it's not a study about social rejection versus physical pain. There's two articles I'm looking at here. But basically, the idea is that they have shown that we process social pain in the same part of the brain that we process physical pain with. And there's also a very interesting perspective from psychology and psychologists.
Starting point is 01:13:42 I'm not sure if it's the consensus or not, but basically that emotional pain is in many ways worse than physical pain because it can be triggered by memories in a way that physical pain cannot. So, for example, I can remember something from the past that hurt me or was difficult for me, and the emotional trauma of that can sort of return, whereas if I remember a physical injury, I'm not going to literally feel that physical pain in quite the same way. Wow. Yeah, emotional pain can make you like adopt a posture,
Starting point is 01:14:05 which can then bring on a certain sort of tension leading to injury. Unless you dream it. Have you ever dreamed, had a dream where you have physical pain and you wake up and like something hurts? Oh yeah. All the time. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:14:16 Yeah. All the time. If you're in a dream and you want to get out, close your eyes really tight till they hurt. And then when you open them, you'll be awake. The pain. So I found an account that has some backstory
Starting point is 01:14:25 on how this nuclear power plant situation started. So apparently they're saying that, and again, caveat, caveat, caveat, right? Fog of war, fog of war, granite salt, blah, blah, blah. That they're saying that the Russians rolled up and demanded that the power plant surrender and that the defenders of the plant surrender. They said, we have overwhelming force. You should surrender. you should stand down so that we can take over this plant
Starting point is 01:14:48 and do so peacefully the defenders refused and that's when the firefight started wow so those were russian soldiers on the ground you so it was russian soldiers on the ground and it looked like there were defenders and if you look at that clip um that a few people have have pulled out of that live stream you it looks like you can actually see tracer fire rounds being fired from the roof at the Russian artillery. Okay. And then, so was there incoming artillery? Well, the artillery's on the ground.
Starting point is 01:15:13 Right next to the power plant? Yes. Oh, are they firing that artillery at the power plant across the street? Well, at the defenders. Wow, that close range. Yes. Wow.
Starting point is 01:15:23 That's insane. Yeah, that's what you're seeing in the video. Okay. I thought stuff was coming from out. And then I thought I saw missiles flying outward from there, but that wasn't what I was seeing. No, those are just shells. Okay. So we actually just watched a battle take place in real time.
Starting point is 01:15:37 Yes, we did. That's kind of amazing. Yes, we actually did. I remember there was a couple modern feats of social media. The first was when the Al-Qassam brigades in Palestine were firing rockets into Israel and the IDF and the Al-Qassam brigades were tweeting at each other in a flame war
Starting point is 01:15:53 during a hot war. And a lot of people were actually laughing because it was like Al-Qassam was like, we will wipe you out. And the IDF was like, try it. We'll stop you. And I'm like, they're tweeting at each other. But then there was, in the Middle East, we got a video, a GoPro attached to a tank. And the soldiers who were shooting back at it or being fired upon, they also had GoPros. And so the footage made it to the internet where researchers were able to find both perspectives
Starting point is 01:16:23 and put it in a single video where you could see both sides of a conflict online crazy stuff yeah could you hear both the voices of the people from either side you couldn't hear anything from the tank because the camera's outside and the people are inside but you could hear the people on their well have you seen the the chechens and the azov leaders are now sending are cutting videos about each other about talking about essentially how they're gearing up for this massive fight in Mariupol. Wow. And so those are kind of considered your most brutal fighters on either side. And for Azov, I mean, you can find very quickly videos of Azov committing beheadings, committing crucifixions of ethnic Russians.
Starting point is 01:16:59 Chechens, I think, goes without saying, extremely, extremely brutal. Or if you know anything about the Battle of Grozny or the Chechen Wars. And so the leaders of Kadyrov, who is the leader of the Chechens, is now coming in. He's pro-Putin, fighting for the Russians, going in, specifically targeting that Azov battalion. And some of the messages I was getting from a contact that I have that's active duty right now was that they were possibly trying to get Azov to at least surrender. And they were saying, hey, we just want the city. We don't need to kill all of you. Just leave and we'll let you go out to the west.
Starting point is 01:17:33 Well, you can go to Lviv. We won't even, we'll let you surrender and just evacuate. And of course, Azov was saying no. We saw video, Azov, a member of the battalion, dipping bullets in pig's lard. Right. And then saying we're going to get... because a lot of Chechens are Muslim, and that's
Starting point is 01:17:48 also very concerning because it brings religion into it, which... From UFC, Khabib, the greatest... He's like a governor. Isn't he a mayor or something? No, I'm thinking of a... You're thinking of the two brothers, right? Yeah, there's an MMA fighter that's like a mayor of a city in Russia right now.
Starting point is 01:18:04 Russia? Klitschko? That's Ukraine. Oh, it's an MMA fighter that's like a mayor of a city in Russia right now. Russia? Klitschko? Klitschko? That's Ukraine. That's Ukraine. Oh, it's Ukraine. No, that's – yeah, and they're boxers. That's completely – Oh.
Starting point is 01:18:11 I got a third right. Thanks. No, no. They're fighters of some sort. They're somewhere over there. I remember him being a monster. You should write speeches for Joe Biden. Call me, Joe.
Starting point is 01:18:20 These are the facts. Jamie, look at us. The brave Iranian people. Yeah. That was hilarious. The Iranian people. The Iranian people. That was hilarious. The Iranian people. By the way, I noticed you guys mentioned and called it a State of the Union.
Starting point is 01:18:31 I can't in good faith. It's a campaign speech. At the end, you did say the State of the Union was strong, and it's strong because the people are strong. Technically, you could argue it was a State of the Union because at the very end... Nobody's even questioning why Putin is doing this this now have you noticed that yeah yeah everyone kind of gets it so that that narrative isn't even the narrative is okay you
Starting point is 01:18:50 you can ask why is he doing this right and i think there's a lot of clearly a huge debate on that and he's not been very clear about it in some ways you know he has the stated purposes but we think there's probably some more than that but nobody's asking why now everyone he kind of gets that yeah this this is the time well he actually so what happened was biden pulled him aside and really intimidated him uh and made it very clear that there would be repercussions if he tried to uh take the hearts and minds of the iranian people and so quinn said all right i won't did he whisper here i want to mention this too uh ian um your point about it being more of like a campaign speech, I completely agree, which is why we just released a cartoon about this today for Freedom Tunes.
Starting point is 01:19:30 If you guys want to check that out, I just want to plug that because that's very much along those lines. When he said he was going to help cure – what did he say? He was going to cure cancer? He said we're going to end cancer as we know it. What are you talking about? No, no, no. As we know it. We're going to change definitions. He's going to do gain-of-function research. End cancer as we know it. What are you talking about? As we know it.
Starting point is 01:19:46 We're going to change definitions. He's going to do gain-of-function research. He's going to change the definition of the word. He's like, so I fulfilled my promise. Called up Merriam-Webster and said, put another word in there. And now it's different as we know it. Different word. Different word.
Starting point is 01:20:03 You're going to cure canker, man. He was talking about astrology cancer. He was talking about astrology cancer. He was talking about these people. Oh, man, I just can't stand the cancer. When I think people who hate Trump and there's people who dislike him, I think when they would hear Trump tell a story, I can imagine what their reaction was. Like, this guy is so full of himself.
Starting point is 01:20:21 He's such an idiot, blah, blah, blah. When Biden told that story, I looked at Putin and I said, I don't think you have a soul. And he looked at me and said, we understand each other. Did anyone believe that that actually happened? So Trump tells a story and they're over the top. Biden tells a story and even his supporters are like, yeah, dude, that didn't happen. Putin was a bad dude. Putin was asked about that. I said, hey, Esther.
Starting point is 01:20:46 I said, hey, Putin, get off the diving board. We're all coming to drag you off. In an NBC interview with Putin, they asked him about that, and he was like, I don't remember. It was a diplomacy thing, so he insulted me like that. I don't know why he did that. That's just like a weird thing to say. Joe Biden's like, Vladimir Putin was banging the razor blade on the curb.
Starting point is 01:21:03 Get it rusty. Put it in a barrel. Bang his nuclear weapon on the curb. Get it rusty. Put it in a barrel. Bang his nuclear weapon on the curb. Get it rusty. Put it in a barrel. Well, also they called him Esther Williams or something. I said, you get off my back, you up. I find it hilarious that with Trump, Trump is like, if you touch the Ukraine, I will nuke Moscow.
Starting point is 01:21:22 Like a very real concrete threat. And Biden's like like you don't have a soul man okay but it's like okay what is this uh what does this mean i have no soul let's take ukraine now okay it's like oh no joe biden will not like me if i do this it's like i've never had a soul i'm glad glad you recognize that. Putin – like Biden says, you ain't got a soul, man. Then he walks away and Putin, confused, looks over to like Sergey Lavrov and says, he says, I have no soul. And he goes, yes. Let's take Ukraine.
Starting point is 01:21:56 No, exactly. But do you – like what an unbelievably insane thing for him to ever – even if he did say that. Do you think that somebody on the international stage wants their enemy to think they have a soul do you want to be seen as a bleeding heart type no i mean biden does no yeah exactly it's just so ridiculous is it when you're like oh this is so bad for public relations people will think i am not nice guy yeah you don't make a a good like which actually would be the downfall of Putin inside Russia. If people didn't think he was a nice guy. This would make a good four-panel.
Starting point is 01:22:28 If everybody was a nice guy. A good four-panel comic would be like Trump saying, I'll nuke Moscow, and Putin looking to Lavrov and being like, let's hold back for a minute. Then Biden saying, you have no soul, and he'll be like, okay, we're good. No, it's like Trump gives a direct threat of violence, and Biden's like, you're mean, man. Don't attack me in my vulnerable spots which are here here and here he's like hey man it'd be really mean if you did biden actually did that yeah he's like you ain't got a soul man so i'm gonna show you a list of all the places you better not attack there you go i just that one's most important i trust you that's crazy
Starting point is 01:23:00 it's a fundamental risk misreading of this you, and you can dig into some of the philosophical aspects of this where, you land power. They are a land-based power. We were just talking earlier about how they have so many issues for them to be able to get to see. So they have that mindset of strength over everything, power over everything, might makes right. And it does have a deeper sense of cultural traditionalism. Whereas in the US. it is this more sort of small P, progressivism of this enlightened, oh, we can always be better, we can rise above. These are two ideas that are in not only philosophical contention but spiritual contention as well. And I think if we fail to understand that, we are completely misreading the situation. Not only, and Bill Roggio had a great article about how we completely misread Russia's strategy in the war. I think that's obvious by this point, right? Russia isn't losing just because they didn't take Kiev in the first 24 hours.
Starting point is 01:24:17 But I think we completely misread the way Russian leaders are even, just even the way that they think. So if you can't understand or appreciate how your adversary thinks, how can you ever attempt to get ahead of their decision cycle, get inside their OODA loops, or even predict their future moves? It's so true. Lauren Southern made a great point about this yesterday when referring to China or two days ago. We have no idea how the Chinese think, but they know exactly how we think.
Starting point is 01:24:41 Of course. Because they go to the UN and say the United States of America is racist and they don't care about black lives. I would advise no China doesn't care about minorities. China, in order to sell the new Star Wars film in China, they had to reduce the size of a black actor on the poster. They don't care. Yeah, I get messages from time to time from Chinese citizens that are like CCP is not China. And so if you really want to understand Chinese, read The Romance of the Three Kingdoms or
Starting point is 01:25:06 watch the movie and then read the book. Yeah, but I think I know what you're saying, and I agree with you 100%, but I would go even a little further. Right now in America, it is not just like we have a small P progressivism. It was not long ago that the American flag on a Nike sneaker caused uproars. Yeah. Right? So not only do we have a progressivism, we are intentionally, led by this administration, quite frankly, or the progressive left, we are intentionally destroying the pillars of
Starting point is 01:25:34 our foundation. Yeah. And the smallest things, and we've talked a lot about this on the show, the smallest things that unify us, like the national anthem, well, you should be able to protest that. And this little moment, well, that should be up for debate. And George Washington, maybe we should change the name of the school. So I think if you're Putin, and this is not shilling for him at all, don't get me wrong, but if you are him and his administration
Starting point is 01:25:57 and Russian power, and you look at the West and say, they don't even respect their George Washington. Why are we afraid of these people? We changed the name of Abraham Lincoln School in California. Do you think maybe it's possible that Xi Jinping feels threatened by how introspective we are? No doubt. And how diverse our army is. Yeah, that was it.
Starting point is 01:26:18 We totally seized our diversity training. It is. Exactly. All of our soldiers are doing TikTok videos where they're are doing TikTok videos. That's why Russia invaded. Russia saw the threat of the West diversity trainings and he was sweating bullets and he was like, we have to invade. Yeah. Once they all once they all learn about diversity, inclusivity and equity, we're done. Now, what you're seeing is so we've we've become quite decadent in in this sort of 30 years since the fall of the Soviet Union,
Starting point is 01:26:49 this idea of Fukuyama's end of history and everyone's going to adopt. So instead of thinking that our values were Western or that they were derived from the Bible, that they're Greco-Roman legal practice, European law, et cetera, principles, enlightenment, all of that. No, no, no. We decided that these were universal principles and that we could go on these nation building projects around the world and that we could impose our way of thinking on everyone because our way of thinking was natural. And we don't even need all this history, as you're describing, to back it up that we've advanced from or that we developed from. No, no, no, no, no. These are just the universe of values. And our job now is to proselytize the world and evangelical size them to our way of thinking. So the first place, of course, that we're going to
Starting point is 01:27:31 try that is Afghanistan, right? Because we're going to turn Kandahar into California. And we never once sat back and thought, you know, maybe the rest of the world doesn't want those things, or maybe they don't think that way. And so that's why you're seeing now, instead of actually focusing on the things that would make our country strong, like energy, strong currency, we do need a strong US dollar, by the way, if the US dollar falls off its perch, that's really going to be bad for a lot of Americans. Because I think that a lot of the people out there that are living paycheck to paycheck that don't have a lot of savings, you know, you always see those studies out there, and I'm sure it's much worse now about how many people have less than $5,000, $2,000 in their checking accounts. What happens to them when that checking account becomes
Starting point is 01:28:13 completely worthless overnight because the US dollar loses its world reserve status? They'll print another $8 trillion and try and just give everyone $4,000 to get them So you're seeing now a complete reworking of the world order. And that's why even as horrific as these scenes are that are coming out of Ukraine, the longterm implications of this might actually be worse because unit polarity is gone. The international rules based order is gone.
Starting point is 01:28:43 Multi-polarity is returning. That's going to be a huge problem for us because remember, even, you know, we talk about the SWIFT system. Okay, let's, you know, pull the nuclear plan and kick Russia off the SWIFT system. Well, the SWIFT system only works because it's backed by the U.S. dollar. If Russia's already planning to get off the dollar, then they don't need it. Yeah. Well it interesting oh no no please no no well it's interesting how we like to play philanthropist and act like we are exporting western values around the world and helping people live better lives because we care about the the downtrodden one in many circumstances it's either militaristic intervention or economic bullying to force our
Starting point is 01:29:19 way of life onto other people even in countries where they're not ready for it or ready for it is the wrong term because some of the things that we tried to import into these countries aren't things people should ever be ready for. I find it fascinating, and I don't think it's a coincidence, that the intellectual founders of neoconservatism were former Marxists. And look at the neoconservative mission. Look at what we tried to do in Afghanistan. Oh, we're going to completely and fundamentally restructure a culture at the barrel
Starting point is 01:29:45 of a gun. And this country, this entire nation with a history that we don't even care to understand is going to bow before the order we have determined is the culmination of history, which is how they conceptualize democracy now instead of Marxism as neoconservatives, because we ordered them to at the barrel of a gun and were able to restructure their thinking. It's crazy, dude. I watched, I don't even want to get, I was looking at a picture of the bath party. It didn't work, by the way.
Starting point is 01:30:13 And you just see these young frat boys. It's too long of a conversation to go into now. Check it out, though. Saddam Hussein bath party image, and you see Saddam as a young, rambunctious youth. That guy was a nut. Well, the thing that I find bizarre about this whole conversation from the 30,000 foot level especially are we invading do we not invade what is the role of NATO etc etc it was not very long ago that like a million and a half Hutus and Tutsis in Rwanda slaughtered each other with
Starting point is 01:30:40 machete and the west just sat there and watched it and said, wow, that's bad. I mean, like literally over a million five hundred thousand and the majority of them were hacked to death. And we just sat there and we're like... With Chinese machetes. That's bad. But there was... So I don't understand. Should we intervene when there is evil happening
Starting point is 01:30:59 as a philosophy? I understand that position. But we're ready to jump into the Ukraine, but no one wanted to go to Rwanda. So what the difference we're gonna go to super chats if you haven't already smash that like button nuke the like button subscribe to the channel share the show if you really like it head over to timcast.com become a member because we're gonna have a members only segment up around 11 or so p.m where we go into more details on conflict crisis and other stories so this is where we're going to be a bit more crass.
Starting point is 01:31:26 And it's the uncensored show. Let's read some of these super chats. We have this from Scarlett Jonancy. Scarlett. Wait, what am I? No, Scarlett Jonancy. OK, Tim, what advice do you have for me? I want to go undercover and report on the ground.
Starting point is 01:31:40 I know it's dangerous. What should I bring with me? I have no advice for you other than don't go. Yeah, don't do that yeah don't um in order to to enter conflict zones of this degree you need a lot more experience so um have you seen the reddit threads by the way of people like i'm going there's a whole red subreddit of i think it's ukraine volunteers or something people one guy was like and i'm sure there's trolls in there of course but one guy was like hey are you allowed to bring weed into ukraine because i have this bong that i got but i don't
Starting point is 01:32:09 want to break it it's got residue in it these stories maybe those people should go yeah i'm what about frank basically like this if if you have to ask a question on the internet to somebody else about whether or not i should go don't go or join the military don't go questioning joining i don't know from your advice if someone's questioning go help refugees if you want to go and do something good right now and you don't have that training go to poland right now help out with the refugees uh send money to the charities that are then the ngos that are going to be there there's a lot of people or join frank focus groups let me just point out um you
Starting point is 01:32:45 know scarlett joe says go undercover the uh that sounds like a death please don't try to go undercover yeah because no just do not do that undercover is if if you are not easily identifiable you look like an enemy combatant yeah or you're a spy period a spy or a risk especially someone not from ukraine yeah if you're walking around, they need only do one thing. A guy in a military suit will shout out a sentence in Russian or Ukrainian, and when you go, spy. That's it right there. So I had this happen when I was in Ukraine. Oh, I love this too.
Starting point is 01:33:19 The young Turks were like smack talking me because they just love talking about me. You live rent-free up there, buddy. I mean, with real estate prices right now, you can't beat that. I appreciate the PR they give me, but I love the commenters. What do you mean, PR? Their channel's so much. I mean, how many views did they get? 50,000 views.
Starting point is 01:33:33 Trillion. Okay, so they're doing better than that. Hey, put my name in people's minds. And people were commenting like, I'd love to see what Tim would do if he was in Ukraine. I was like, I was there when this was starting in 2014, when they were ousting Yanukovych. Were you there as it happened? I was not there as they ousted Yanukovych.
Starting point is 01:33:49 I had left just before that. Wow. But I was there as they were building the barricades and the Soviet, there's a Soviet general who came in and like, he was in a tent. It was cool to talk to the guy.
Starting point is 01:33:58 I didn't speak Ukrainian or Russian, but we had a translator. And simply walking in, I got surrounded by a bunch of Ukrainians yelling at me and mike and the guys working with me and i was just like american journalist and then someone came and intervened and started speaking to them in ukrainian and then they made the way and let us in they liked journalists what is under beanie show us what is under beanie understand this the
Starting point is 01:34:20 the maidan protest they called it euro maidan they were very pro-west so when they journalists was there, they were like, this is what we need to get support from the West. We need Americans here. And so they were like, oh, oh, oh, this is exciting. But it was ridiculously dangerous. There was sniper fire. People were getting shot. I was not there for that. I had left.
Starting point is 01:34:39 I had come back. And I was fortunately not there when it got really bad with the Molotovs. But I got to go and witness the collapsed Lenin statue. People had taken fragments of the statue. They took his head and his hand. I got to go into a Ukrainian government building that had been totally seized and occupied and ransacked. That was, by the way, the only coup that was worse than that, of course, was January 6th. Yes, but I want to stress.
Starting point is 01:35:08 Okay. In history. The coup were like almost no one had. I want to stress this point. Yes, that one. By the time I had left and I had devolved into like full-scale urban conflict, I was not there. Why? I am not a war reporter.
Starting point is 01:35:21 I do civil and urban conflict, which means up until that point, I was like, that's my limit. I've been on the ground in numerous countries. I rode in the back of this truck in Thailand during the yellow shirt, red shirt, the monarchist and parliamentarian protests. And there were bloodstains on the ground because someone in a motorcycle drove by and threw a grenade into it. We got in it after they scrubbed it clean. And then we rode down the street wearing body armor and helmets like these are the vehicles that get attacked. That was the extent to my capabilities in a conflict zone. When it comes to what's happening now in Ukraine, I don't have the experience, the skill, nor the courage to be in a firefight. Which, and by the way, if you're thinking, I mean, I shouldn't even say this, but if you're thinking I'm going to go by myself, right? Right. You're already, yeah, just Anne Hall, you're
Starting point is 01:36:10 already wrong, right? You are not going to be going, you're, and not only that, by the way, you're not going to be a help to yourself or others. You're going to be a detriment to others. You're going to be a detriment to people you're trying to help. You're going to be a hindrance and you are going to get probably yourself killed and a lot of other people killed if they're trying to save you no no your limits man their limits so humility so look my my and by the way and i'm just going to say this i'm that telling people to go and throw molotov cocktails and run up in civilian clothes against a professional military with mechanized armored vehicles with 14 millimeter, 30 millimeter cannons, right? You've seen the videos, right?
Starting point is 01:36:50 I'm sure we've all seen the videos now where the entire tree, people tried to hide behind trees because they thought this was like a Marvel movie or something and that the trees would protect you from cannon fire. No, it's not going to work. Everyone was killed, right? Just understand where you are. There's a reason why I stayed only in Ukraine for so long before leaving. There's a reason why I can, I can do what people, some people would criticize as parachute journalism to an extent when it came
Starting point is 01:37:20 to the high, like high level warfare, the journalists that go in after me speak five languages. They're fluent in Russian. They're fluent in Polish. They're fluent in Ukrainian and several other romance languages as well. So they go on the ground and they can communicate with anyone who approaches them.
Starting point is 01:37:37 And that keeps them alive. They probably already have a network established, right? I mean, they had plans for this and they have safe houses. These are people. So the journalists that eventually, they go in that I remain in communication with as I leave. These are people who have already lived in the region.
Starting point is 01:37:51 They've lived there for two or three years or they're from there. Like when you see a reporter on the ground, there are corporate – I don't like these kinds of journalists that have like big security crews. They go into secured zones and then just talk to the camera. It's fine. Okay, that's not what I'm referring to, but actual war correspondents. When I went to Thailand, I was sent with a guy who lived in Thailand for five years and spoke Thai. They were like, we're in this lull period where we can have you go in and produce an English-speaking experience of what's going on.
Starting point is 01:38:22 If it gets too hot, you come back out. We keep our crews on the ground who are war correspondents trained with with with high-powered rifles with body armor military tactics a lot of the journalists that go on the ground in these situations are former military as well people need to understand that it's not these these people on reddit who are like we're going it's like that after vietnam has there been any legit war correspondence from the United States press corps? Like, you put the body cameras on troops and you want to show the reality of what they're going through. I mean, you had people in
Starting point is 01:38:52 the Iraq war, in Syria, in Afghanistan. I remember they were just riding on tanks in the desert. Michael Hastings. Let's read some more Super Chats, though. MJ says, I work in nuclear. As long as they don't
Starting point is 01:39:05 hit the reactor building coolant supply pumps or the off-site power lines they will be able to stabilize the reactors with no risk of meltdown well there you go we got
Starting point is 01:39:14 let's see it says Dan Brockman says Tim the Kalashnikov ammo in that pig lard video is far more likely it's far more likely it's 5.45 by 39
Starting point is 01:39:24 not 7.62x39. Study the AK-74, you silly man. Love y'all. Oh, I stand corrected. Did you see the video? Yeah. Did you see what kind of ammo they were loading? I can't believe you spread that fake news to him.
Starting point is 01:39:36 I got to be honest. I didn't look. All I saw was what it looked like, and I assumed it was 7.62x39. Misinformation. I mean, that is the predominant round that you're going to see in this fight. 7.62x39. 7.62x39 with the AKs, yeah. Right, the predominant round that you're going to see in this fight. 7.62-39. The 7.62 with the AKs, yeah. Right, that's what I thought.
Starting point is 01:39:47 I thought they were using AKs. But he said AK-74, so that uses the smaller round. Some variants of it do. Yeah, man. So it's funny when I show people bullets. I love showing people bullets because you ask them which one's the weapon of war. And I'll show a polymer tip 450 Bushmaster, which is huge. And then I'll show a 9mm Lugermaster, which is huge. And then I'll show
Starting point is 01:40:05 like a 9mm Luger or something. And then they're just like, oh, and they point to the big one every time. But sometimes, some people are like, you're tricking me. It must be the small one.
Starting point is 01:40:13 And I'm like, yeah, you know why? You can carry more of them. Like hunters go out with like three rounds of 450. What if the deer is wearing Kevlar? He said it again. Oh, man. Wait, who said that?
Starting point is 01:40:24 Biden. Oh, good for him. That's man. Wait, who said that? Biden. Oh, good for him. That's brilliant. Well, then I'll call Jim Eagle and we'll go to the field of dreams and get $130 from Pat. Don't forget Binger. Explosive tip.
Starting point is 01:40:35 Holla points for hunting. All right. Let's grab Super Chat here. My contacts are getting all dry. It's getting hard for me to read. Come on, man. Clayton Johnson says, as someone who has worked a few outages at nuke plants, the transmission
Starting point is 01:40:51 substation would be a main and likely the primary target in a power plant unless they are attempting to cause a meltdown. Bad idea to fight there. Unless they want to. GBP says, if the narrative that Putin wants the USSR back is true, it wouldn't make sense for him to attack
Starting point is 01:41:09 the most valuable and volatile infrastructure, ruin the land, and then cause yourself further problems. That's true too. And that's why if you could win a war without firing a shot, propaganda and influence, you would.
Starting point is 01:41:21 So my view on this is the West and russia are already at war they're just the west is playing a propaganda influence war and russia's in a third generational hot conflict so russia clearly was losing they knew it they said time for bolts the west is like we're we're not gonna go and fight but they use every manipulative cyber tactic in the book to try and win. And what happens? The children of Russian politicians and oligarchs are begging for the war to end.
Starting point is 01:41:51 When you also see that the U.S. is providing. And I don't think this comes as a surprise, but I think it's been publicly acknowledged now. I saw Zero Hijack, the article, that the U.S. is providing real-time intelligence to Kiev. Wait, you said that these children want the war to end? These are the hot models of Instagram? The children of government officials in Russia. That part I had missed earlier. I didn't know they were calling for it to end.
Starting point is 01:42:13 They were saying, we don't support this. We don't want war. No war. All that stuff. Jack pronounced it Kiev. I thought it was Kiev. It got changed. It used to be K-I-E-V. Now it's K-I-Y-V. Or K-Y-I-V. I've only known it as K-I-E-V. Now it's K-I-Y-V or K-Y-I-V. I've only known it as K-Y-I-V, but that's because like – It's a Ukrainian spelling.
Starting point is 01:42:30 Yeah. It used to be – the Russian is K-I-E-V. Kievan Rus. So it used to be – people used to say the Ukraine. Well, it's neither because it's Cyrillic. Yeah, that's true. People used to say the Ukraine, but it's just Ukraine. No, it's Ukraine.
Starting point is 01:42:42 Which means the borderland. Yeah, I catch myself saying the Ukraine a lot, and I'm wondering where I got that. Well, Ukrania, so the root of that is granica, which means border. So Ukrania is at the border. Or, you know, interpreted would be the borderland. So if you're speaking in Ukrainian or Russian or Polish,
Starting point is 01:43:00 you're saying the borderland. But go to Ukraine and say the Ukraine and see their reaction. Yeah. No, they just correct you because it's like, no, we're not the, we're saying the borderlands. But go to Ukraine and say the Ukraine and see their reaction. No, they just correct you because it's like, no, we're not the. We're just Ukraine. It's a country. Say Ukraine did this. Not the Ukraine did this. The Netherlands or the Hague. There's a couple of thes.
Starting point is 01:43:15 The Bronx. The United States. These United States. I don't think there was any negative connotation by calling it the Ukraine. It was just sort of – It's racist. It's just racist.
Starting point is 01:43:31 The idea was – But they're all the same race. What I was told by people is that – You would think that. But I am Slavic, so I can say it. Listen and learn. It's racist. What I was told by people in Ukraine was that by calling it the Ukraine, you were saying the people who live on the border as opposed to their national identity of Ukrainians.
Starting point is 01:43:48 So saying Ukraine does this, you're saying their name is a proper noun as a people when you're saying you're basically like saying like the hill people when you say like the Ukraine, you know what I mean? Like, oh, the people in the outskirts. So it's not a national identity. So they were like, that's what I was told. All right. This is a good one.
Starting point is 01:44:03 We got OMG Puppy says Canadian journalist last night was interviewing an Azov guy in Kiev. He dropped the N-word at one point and they freaked out, afraid for their live stream. As they should be. That's hate speech. It's worth getting a hold of that video. So who was a Canadian journalist? I saw somebody saying – because I looked for it and I couldn't find it, but somebody was even saying that the Azov you could find on eBay and Amazon, like Azov shirts and stuff. Yeah, I saw somebody tweet that.
Starting point is 01:44:32 I don't think people realize it's a neo-Nazi group. I saw the tweet, but then I went and checked it and I couldn't find it myself. How many people you think understand it's a neo-Nazi group? I think a lot of people do know. But I think it's important to say that it's like Lauren said, there's components of it that are Nazis. Is it more correct to say it that way? Like some people have super chatted saying the Azov Battalion is a Nazi group is missing the nuance of components of the Azov Battalion are Nazis. Well, there's many battalions as well.
Starting point is 01:45:04 Right. And so there's one overall, you know, oligarch, Yehor Kolomoisky, who's funded them and funded a lot of politicians in Ukraine, as well as media outlets. And that's really been bankrolling a lot of this stuff. So, I mean, again, you know, to say Russia is controlled by the oligarchs, it is. And then Putin on top of that. But Ukraine has just as many oligarchs as Russia does. You know, proportionally. Justin Wooten says, are you suggesting anchor kittens is the funniest thing I've ever
Starting point is 01:45:32 heard? Let Poso roll the hundred-sided die. Alright, let's do it. Let's do it. Here we go. Rolling it up. Should I do this on camera? It's going to roll very far, though. It's like a ball. It always rolls far. Alright, so let me... Well, there it goes. That's a big roll. far, though. It's like a ball. There it goes.
Starting point is 01:45:47 That's a big roll. Ian. Rolling, rolling. Oh, snap. Lydia, keep him honest. Keep him honest. What do we got? Oh, it's turning around.
Starting point is 01:45:54 It's turning. It's coming back to me. Whoa. Oh, boy. That was a powerful roll. That was a Michael over. 44. He rolled a 44.
Starting point is 01:46:01 44. We have a 22, a 55, a 99. So 44 in China, that would be because the word four is associated with death. So that's double death. Oh. Does that mean life? But in Clue, I could get to literally the library from the ballroom with a 44. Yeah, and if you draw a four in Disari, you get to go back right out of the gate.
Starting point is 01:46:19 That would be so double death. Love the four. Or a stable number. That's why they make tables with four legs hey connect four correct anthony austin says tim civil defense should be reactivated in bunkers built for the public you know when you walk around new york you see a lot of those signs fallout shelter i wonder if like i don't know anybody who has any idea how to use those or what you do in the event of an actual nuke right it's like i it's like i was saying before we've forgotten sort of all the rules all the you know the where's the manual
Starting point is 01:46:49 for cold war can we can somebody dust it off and can we go back to read that there was like a lifestyle that we had a secret sealed off swimming pool underground bomb shelter at our high school no one ever found i yeah did you guys have one too? Actually? So when I, in my grade school outside Philadelphia, we actually had, we had a straight up bunker. I remember going into it. I remember it having like the radiation logo on it. It had the door. I remember in, I remember doing at least one desk drill. And I remember even then thinking like, I don't know how this stops a missile, but okay. You know, I guess the idea is if it hits the school, it stops the rubble. Or if the windows get blown out, you don't take it in the face.
Starting point is 01:47:29 Right, right. So, you know, shrapnel and things like that. But then in the 80s, if you were in a – which I am. The propaganda in the 80s that this was all Reagan's fault. He was going to do this. All the little kids, please, Ronald Reagan, stop us. Stop the war. Let's read some more.
Starting point is 01:47:40 We got GBP says, World Economic Forum wants us on crypto. Look up the World Economic Forum's strategic intelligence web with blockchain linked to every aspect of life i've been saying this my friends let me tell you a story back in i think it was 2016 or 17 uh i went to davos because i have friends who were working in crypto and the world economic forum at the time they have peripheral events outside. So in Davos, the city, they have the World Economic Forum, which is highly secure. Then they have the entire city. It's like South by Southwest, basically. The entire city goes convention mode.
Starting point is 01:48:13 Crypto was it. Oh, wow. Everyone was talking about it. I actually had a conversation with the granddaughter of a world leader about Bitcoin. Yeah. I ended up leaving early because i was like this is insane there's a blizzard they call it the internet of things it was like there's like a blizzard it was like five feet of snow it was crazy we were gonna go snowboarding but there's
Starting point is 01:48:32 like avalanche risk it was so it was so it's so amazing up there though when you drive in and like you can see like the mountains and everything it's crazy dude i'm concerned with mind control like they are already doing it with the media obviously Obviously, you can see people getting mind controlled, but real, when they start tapping in and changing brainwaves and stuff, maybe there already are, but I don't think so. I haven't seen evidence. All right. Bobcat says,
Starting point is 01:48:53 Tim, forget your Hollywood image of nuclear war. It would look more like the slow escalation in the game Twilight 2000. Ask Jack even. I used to play that game. Twilight 2000. It was like a World War III Dungeons & Dragons game. But we had tanks and Humvees and stuff. It was really cool.
Starting point is 01:49:09 You're getting stats and weapons. The problem we've had with playing Dungeons & Dragons here, or whatever we tried to do with it, is that everyone's too roguish. You've got to learn how to have fun and just chill with it. But it would be fun to do. Yeah, you've got to learn how to lose, to enjoy losing and make a funny show out of it. Because it's not really about winning. It's about creating a show for people.
Starting point is 01:49:29 A dungeon master, I suppose. All the players, too. Because it's more about just putting on a show than about winning a game. There's no real victory condition. It's about having fun. But I would love to film some kind of... If we took all of politics today
Starting point is 01:49:42 into Twilight 2000 or a game like that and then played out a scenario and like – Yeah, Twilight 2000. I like Aberrant. We should check out – Before we play as mutants and your superpowers. Well, we should do 2024 election D&D. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 01:49:56 Can we – Yes. Rather than a dungeon, it's like the Hall of Congress and you have to go from room to room and I can be Nancy Pelosi and these are my powers and you roll the dice and there's a quorum vote and you all have to – oh my gosh, I would play that game in a heartbeat. But it would be funny to be like 2024, Donald Trump is getting elected because they did this. Like John Podesta and a bunch of Democrats did a war game. They basically played what is essentially D&D about the 2020 election. And then apparently like Donna Brazile and John Podesta
Starting point is 01:50:27 were like, we secede from the union, or like trying to get California to secede or something. Yep, what a crazy, crazy thing, man. This was in one of those Time Magazine articles, wasn't it? Yeah, no, this was Boston Globe. But everyone basically picked it up. I think Atlantic had it. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:42 All right, let's see. Nemetin says, Jack, can you speak to uh speak some to your understanding of china's 100 year plans and how this may play into their current geopolitical position few people get to develop much longer strategic plans and are ridiculously patient well look i mean i you know i think this has been said before but in a nutshell so the founding of the ccp was in 19 or not the founding with the founding of the PRC was in 1949. So their 100 year plan will come to culmination in 2049. That is a key year for them because that is their centenary of taking over all or the centennial of taking over all of China, with the exception, of course, of Taiwan.
Starting point is 01:51:20 And so the idea is they want to be in the position where the United States was at that point. They want to be the global hegemon. And if they can have Russia in their back pocket, if they can have Putin, this belligerent thug, mafioso, Russian mafia type who's willing to keep Europe at bay, then they will do so. And, of course, what China will do here, it's very simple, by the way. They'll come to Europe and they'll say, look, we can keep Putin in check. You just need to make an economic deal with us. You need to give us the most favorite status with the EU. We have to work together. And then we'll talk to Putin. We'll bring him down. We'll keep you guys safe. But as long as you go through us, everything's going to be OK. It's your basic mafia protection racket that's going on right
Starting point is 01:52:06 now. And unfortunately, it's the people of Ukraine who are the ones who have to suffer. All right. We got this from Eric Vasilyev. Russian guy here living in Maryland, getting my bags ready for these camps you're talking about. If it doesn't work out there, can I come stay with you guys? Rest assured, Russian Americans, if you are but a humble American or green card holder or just someone who is uninvolved but you are Russian, we will absolutely hide you beneath the floorboards. Yes. They can come and knock in and we'll just be like, I don't know what you're talking
Starting point is 01:52:36 about. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know what you're talking about. You ain't done nothing wrong, bro. Maybe that's why you're getting swatted.
Starting point is 01:52:41 Maybe this is preemptive swatting. We already have Russians on our floorboards. Every time they come in, they just add to the map. They don't want to be there, but we put them there anyway. We've heard you have Russians in your floorboards. Just cats. It was Russian dressing all along. They're just cats.
Starting point is 01:52:55 No, no, no. It's like, I confess it's true, and they open it up, and there's cats everywhere. The cops are like, help us. You think they're going to change the name of Russian dressing to like freedom dressing? Like what they do with French fries? Freedom fries? Freedom dressing. Russian dressing.
Starting point is 01:53:11 Oh, man. All right. Tanner Larson says, great show, guys. Dan, what do you think about hydrogen as an alternative way of storing energy? I'm currently working on a project regarding water electrolysis, and I'm curious if you have input. I'm not an expert on hydrogen. The only thing I would say is this. We've been talking about hydrogen as this amazing energy source for 60 years.
Starting point is 01:53:33 If it was as good as we were hoping it would, it would have come to fruition by now. I am a firm believer that the free market cannot keep good things off the market. Did you study Stanley Meyer's water car? I did not, no. Apparently, prediction just came true before the show even ended. I'm so sorry. No, no, I'll go into it later.
Starting point is 01:53:50 We'll talk later. No, Kinzinger just called for a no-fly. Kinzinger just said, this proves we need to have a no-fly zone. It's coming, man. They watched the show. I don't know if they were watching when we were doing the live stream,
Starting point is 01:54:02 but they followed our advice on the camera positions. Have you bought your beans yet? Because you don't want to be fighting over the last can of beans with Agnes in a Walmart parking lot. Sorry. No, no, no. It's good. It's good. Share the beans.
Starting point is 01:54:12 Get ready to split your food in half and share it with your neighbor. And then get ready to split it in half over and over and over, just like Jesus did, to feed all those people. Well, he multiplied it miraculously. By cutting it in half. No, no. I multiplied it. I'm a literologist. Also, Lindsey Graham
Starting point is 01:54:27 has just called for President Putin's assassination. I just saw that and I'm trying to pull up a source on this. Isn't that a hag crime? His own Twitter account, is there a Brutus in Russia? Is there a more successful Colonel Stolfenberg
Starting point is 01:54:42 in the Russian military? The only way this ends is for someone in Russia to take this guy out. You would be doing your country and the world a great service. Wow. Okay. Lindsey Graham's out of control. He's drunk, and he needs to be removed from power. If their leader gets assassinated, the Russian people will certainly stop supporting the war effort.
Starting point is 01:55:00 I can't imagine that nobody worse than Putin would ever come up. No, that could never, ever happen. This is a statement that will be a chapter in history books. When a U.S. senator called for the assassination of the president of a warring nation. You know what I call that? I wonder what Russian TV is going to do with this. I wonder what they're going to do. Remember when we got rid of Trump because we didn't like mean tweets?
Starting point is 01:55:22 Yep. Lindsey Graham should resign over this. That's awful like mean tweets? Yep. I remember that. Lindsey Graham should resign over this. Yeah, he should. That's awful escalation. No, I just tweeted that. You need to resign. He needs to resign. We have it right here.
Starting point is 01:55:32 Is there a Brutus in Russia, which is obviously some... Yeah, Brutus is the guy that killed Caesar. Stabbed him in the back. One of the guys. One of the guys. Yeah. Is there a more successful Colonel Stauffenberg in the Russian military? The only way is for somebody to take this guy out?
Starting point is 01:55:47 These people are psychotic, man. That's insane. That's just absolutely insanity to tweet that. It's beyond escalation. It's absurdly irresponsible. Very well said.
Starting point is 01:56:01 Thank you. I was looking for good words. He needs to resign because this is dangerously close to informal war declarations. I don't know whatever Russia's Politburo, if a similar person had called for the assassination of Joe Biden, Lindsey Graham himself would be talking about how that is an act of war. I do not like this guy. No, I can't stand him. Lindsey Graham is trash. He needs to be primaried.
Starting point is 01:56:26 He needs to... This is like, bro, quit now. I can't believe this, man. The people of South Carolina, y'all need to start calling him and telling him to resign, retire. Just what an unhinged thing to say in general. I'm trying to figure out if it's a war crime. Is it a war crime to call for an
Starting point is 01:56:42 assassination? Do the TO... Or are assassinations war crimes? Does Twitter's Terms of Service allow this like we're not at war with i actually don't know how twitter's terms of service can allow this yeah well remember trump was banned you would be doing your country and the world a great service how is this not calling for violence this is calling it's beyond him saying that's like threatening Putin's life. So Trump was banned. Him praising the action as honorable and a service. Crazy, man. Plus, keep in mind, this is a U.S. government official, an extremely powerful U.S. government official, who's about to become part of the majority of the U.S. Senate coming up in September or November.
Starting point is 01:57:21 I thought you were going to say who's about to become the majority. I think they do. I'm on the fence. Well, it's clearly a jump ball. I know we talk about it's sad to see good Congress people go if they have term limits, but this is complete ludicrous. Beyond the pale. Beyond the pale.
Starting point is 01:57:36 Beyond the pale. This is like this guy is just out of his effing mind. Get him out. I mean, it's so stupid too like even if it would be a good strategy to have him assassinated is it's such a stupid thing to say the reason assassinations are never good strategy yeah in general is because you don't know what's look exactly what happened when brutus assassinated and the rest of the senators assassinated julius caesar you got caesar augustus and he turned the republic into a full-on empire, and the Triumvirate had them
Starting point is 01:58:05 all killed. I want to give a shout-out to... No, I agree. My point is... Read the rest of the story. Oh, he had the Triumvirate killed. I guess my point is, it's an insane thing to even propose, but then the way of just saying it on Twitter, and that's how he's going to make that thought
Starting point is 01:58:21 known to the world. He's supposed to be debating this in Congress, not tweeting it out. I'm going to give a shout-out to Troy Rupert, a super chat, who said Lindsey Graham calling for Putin assassination in Wild Times. He posted that before we got the source. We picked it up. Now, free speech. If he's in Congress and they're debating this and he brings it up, free speech.
Starting point is 01:58:38 It's on the table. Maybe not ethical, but it's on the table. You don't tweet it out, dude. You have – Twitter is like a weapon. You've, dude. You have a weapon. You got to use it like a weapon. By the way, you're going to have Russian. By the way, you're going to have Russian responding now.
Starting point is 01:58:50 He has completely undermined the US. Vladimir Putin can now come out and say people of Russia, American politicians are trying to get me killed. These people will not negotiate with us. They have shut down our infrastructure. They are attacking. They're waging cyber war against us. Your only option is me. It's what Jack was saying.
Starting point is 01:59:10 Lindsey Graham is a moron. Even if it wasn't a horrible strategy to assassinate him, and even if it wasn't a horrible idea to propose that strategy over Twitter, he is not the person who's in a position to do so.
Starting point is 01:59:24 Let me read this. I'm a super to do so. Let me read this. That's ridiculous. You're a big Romania. I'm a super chat. I'm going to read it, guys. Patrick Helton. Super chat. Patrick Helton says Lindsey Graham is right.
Starting point is 01:59:34 Lindsey Graham may be technically right. He just said it on Fox, too. He said it on Fox. He's on Fox. Lindsey Graham is right if you want nuclear annihilation. Lindsey Graham is right if you want war to reach every inch of this globe. Lindsey Graham is not correct in how you end war and conflict. He's talking about how do you stop Vladimir Putin as an individual?
Starting point is 01:59:56 Because if something like this happened, especially now that he's called for it, they would what? Respond with a war declaration against us? If somebody took a move to kill, and it was because of Lindsey Graham, you get some crazy communists take control of the oligarch. By the way, that that the Kremlin is more than just one person. There's an entire infrastructure inside that building. There's an establishment. There's there's neocons, right?
Starting point is 02:00:19 The same way that we have neocons that are surrounding Vladimir Putin. And you can say, well, OK, Putin picked them because they're loyal to him. Okay, great. Now, what do you think the Putin loyalists would do if someone assassinated Putin? And then you could say that because Lindsey Graham just said it publicly on Fox and publicly on Twitter, that it was a US backed plot. What do you think the Putin loyalists would respond in that scenario? Just, they'd probably start planning a 100 years of war with the United States.
Starting point is 02:00:46 These people cannot think beyond first order effects. This is the same problem that you see on the left and the right. New liberals, new conservatives, they cannot think beyond first order effects. Yep. That's very tough. It's really what it comes down to. It's like most people. I don't know how many times I can say it's stupid and dangerous and still be effective.
Starting point is 02:01:02 And as Tim was just saying, it makes Putin now – it gives him the opportunity to go on the camera tomorrow and say, the United States government is calling for my assassination. And not only have they punished us financially, now they are calling to kill me. And all I am trying to do is fight for Russia. So you've given Putin another weapon now. He's going to say a country that invaded another country, Iraq, and then later came out and said it was an intelligence error and destroyed a country,
Starting point is 02:01:36 has the nerve to lecture us because we're defending our borders as they attempt regime change, and now because of Russia's willingness to defend itself, they have called for my death. That's what he's going to say. By the way, Lindsey Graham was a huge supporter of Euromaidan. He went over there with John McCain, with Victoria Nuland, with so many of these people very early on in 2013, 2014. He's with Poroshenko.
Starting point is 02:01:59 He's been tied into this directly. So at the same token, I guarantee you, Russian TV is going to be playing that clip of Lindsey Graham and then showing the pictures of Lindsey Graham being with the Ukrainian military. And this is going to be a massive propaganda coup for Putin. I after tonight, man, I really do think we are heading towards a very serious escalation with Kinzinger, with Lindsey Graham. Yeah, but they're both morons at least. It doesn't matter. The establishment has chosen its narrative, and they're going to just steamroll through, and you're going to get sycophants and lunatics who are going to be like, we have to, we must
Starting point is 02:02:38 do it, same as it always happens. The anti-war voices, I mean, Lee Camp is a strong anti-war voice. So of course, he's gone. Well, and the question becomes then, do people like Lindsey Graham know what they're doing? Do they know exactly what they're doing? I don't think they care. All right, let's do this. We're going to go to the member. We're going to record the member segment and go in more detail on a lot of what's going on. We have a couple of stories we're going to cover. So smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. And you can go to timcast.com, become a member. We'll have that member segment up around 11 or so p.m you can follow the show at timcast irl you can follow me at timcast basically everywhere you want to shout anything
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