Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #488 - Jussie Smollett To Be RELEASED, Judge Agrees To Let Him Out Of Jail w/Terry Schilling

Episode Date: March 17, 2022

Tim, Seamus of FreedomToons, and Lydia host Terry Schilling of the 'NRA For Families,' The American Principles Project, to discuss the extremely short time Jussie Smollett spent in prison, the Boston ...BLM organizer facing federal charges for scamming people, and the majority of Americans who approve of Florida's parental rights bill. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Jesse Smollett will soon be a free man. Court has agreed that he should be released. Why? Because he's appealing, and he would be in jail. He would get out of jail, actually, after the appeals process ended. So it all seems all just so silly. But this is the reality we live in. We also have this BLM activist who's been indicted on 18 different felony charges for fraud, along with her husband, so we'll talk about that.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Disney workers are going to be protesting the parental rights and education bill, which makes no sense. As it turns out, the majority of Americans actually support the content, the core of this bill. Of course, we also have stuff happening in Ukraine, so we'll be talking about that as well. Unfortunately, tonight Ian is sick and will not be joining us. But joining us to talk about this and much more is Terry Schilling. Do you want to introduce yourself? Yeah, thanks so much for having me, Tim. Terry Schilling, president of American Principles Project. We are the NRA, but for families. So we don't do guns. We do families. We helped start the anti-transgender sports fight. We started spending a lot of money on campaign ads, attacking politicians who were wanting to put boys and girls sports.
Starting point is 00:01:10 And what do you know? The American people are against that in a big way. And so we've been working in the states. We've passed anti, I'm sorry, pro-women's sports legislation in 11 states now. Iowa is the most recent one. And now that fight is kind of evolving into something even bigger. So we're really happy. It's really necessary, and we're really proud.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Cool. We'll talk about that stuff too along with everything else. We've got Seamus. Yeah, very excited to be here. I think this is going to be a great conversation, an NRA for families. Yeah, this idea that we would actually have a lobby for the family, which is the building block of society. Unbelievable. That's so novel to us.
Starting point is 00:01:53 But thank you for the work you're doing. I'm interested in asking you some questions about it. My name is Seamus Coghlan. I have a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes. We animate educational cartoons and political satire. Every Thursday we have a cartoon coming out tomorrow about how basically the industrial military complex is constantly trying to use World War II nostalgia to get us involved in new conflicts. I think it's pretty funny, and you guys will like it. So go over there, subscribe, hit the notification bell, and we'll have that up tomorrow. And I am no excuse for Ian.
Starting point is 00:02:19 We will miss his input definitely for sure. We'll just carry on in his memory, and I'll try to come up with something wild and crazy in the meantime. And don't forget, head over to TimCast.com. Become a member if you'd like to support us directly. As a member, you are keeping all of our journalists gainfully employed, and they are all very happy that you're doing so. But you'll also get access to exclusive segments from this show. Around 11 or so p.m. tonight, we will be publishing a members-only podcast segment of this show. It's usually about a half an hour long. And it's kind of the uncensored show. We do swear a lot. It's the
Starting point is 00:02:50 non-family-friendly show, so definitely check that out if you would like to support our work. But don't forget to smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show right now if you can. If you take the URL, just post it wherever you can to really, really help us out. Now, let's jump into that first story. Breaking news. Court orders Jussie Smollett released from jail during his appeal after just six days in prison. Disgraced Empire actor Jussie Smollett will be released after serving just six days. Judges sided with his lawyers, who argued that he would be finished with his sentence before the appeals process was complete. He was sentenced to 150 days after being convicted of five felony counts of disorderly conduct for falsely reporting
Starting point is 00:03:29 a racist and homophobic attack in 2019 smollett could have served just 75 days with good behavior he had been kept in psychiatric care in a restraint bed in the cook county jail yikes man so as many of you are probably aware, he started yelling, I'm not suicidal over and over again, which made many of us believe that he was. And we did mention this briefly on the show. We mentioned it last time a little bit. My view, and I think this is what you were saying,
Starting point is 00:03:56 we agree, he was actually suicidal. And by saying he wasn't, he was hoping that people would think it was a conspiracy because I got to be honest, his life's over. It's been over. He's a joke. Well, that's what I said on air a couple days ago when we first talked about the story.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Granted, it's just speculation. We have no idea what his motives are. But it sounded to me like it was at least possible that this is something a person who's planning on killing themselves would say if they were a complete egomaniac who wanted people to think that there was some kind of conspiracy behind it. There's something sociopathic about this guy. I mean, when you have someone that's able to literally, like, cry on demand and go into great detail about the entire hoax. And, you know, I think this is really tragic, this whole news story, right? Because it's setting an example. The whole point of punishing these people is to show society what happens when you do something like this and so he gets out of jail
Starting point is 00:04:50 now after six days there's going to be a lot more hoaxes and i think that that might actually be deliberate on the left's part right like they they don't want these hoaxes to go away there was a tweet from i think it was matt walsh and he had a bunch of tweets from him and Andy Ngo. And he was basically saying that he couldn't, in almost every circumstance, these hate crimes where someone spray paints something, they turn out to be hoaxes. And then he shows this story in four parts, quote tweets from Andy Ngo, him, and some other person. And he says, I can't recall a single moment it may have been andy no said this in recent memory of one of these turning out to be real someone responded with you should pay attention because this happened at emory and then posts a link and
Starting point is 00:05:34 then andy no is like the guy who did that was a black the guy who wrote the graffiti and the racial slurs was actually a black guy yeah so i gotta be honest yeah Yeah, the only instance I can think of that was not a hoax was like some kids in New York used sidewalk chalk and made swastikas and that was it. And it was like some little kids. So there was no real like direct attack on a store or a person. I'm like, no, I think that one was like actually – maybe I'm wrong about that. But there was that story I remember that was a former NFL player had a pizza shop and like a chicken shop. And then they were doing really bad. So he just ransacked them and then spray painted racial slurs and then –
Starting point is 00:06:14 It happens. And the thing about these little kids, I remember in high school, my friends would prank me by drawing swastikas on my notebook. I'm not kidding. It was like – They'd prank you. like yeah and we had this whole thing of like edgy oh just just uh turn it into windows right so like right little kids can't comprehend nazism really like they don't understand the gravity of the holocaust and how terrible it was and so like they prank each other with that and that's it's usually either a really
Starting point is 00:06:42 terrible prank from someone that's super immature or a total hoax where someone is trying to get more attention or get away with fraud. I think it's people just trying to get attention. How many churches have been vandalized? I mean you've probably seen these stories, right? Yeah, of course. They'll put racial slurs in the parking lot and then it was just like it was someone from the church staging a hoax. Yeah, no. I mean it's disgusting stuff i'm sure a couple years ago you guys
Starting point is 00:07:05 remember there was this story at mizzou and within one of the bathroom stalls someone had drawn a swastika using fecal matter and we were told that this was a neo-nazi attack instead of first of all extremely um unbalanced mentally ill person to draw anything with fecal matter but somebody who's actually a nazi is not going to depict their like sacred cherished symbol with human crap right right but the conclusion oh my goodness this is a hate crime it was very bizarre instead of like wow what a bizarre disgusting thing to do it was this is white supremacy you know it's hard sometimes waking up and being like oh that's the news again because it keeps happening yeah with these stories and and it's it's remarkable that you know what really is just, it's kind of depressing.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Jussie Smollett's being released. You know, we thought we got him. We got him. He was arrested. He was caught. We knew it. He goes through trial. He is mocked and ridiculed.
Starting point is 00:07:58 More evidence comes out. It seems like a clear-cut slam-dunk case. Finally convicted. Then we await sentencing. And we're like please just for once lock one of these people up and they're like okay you let him out six days later well what are you what are you taking out what are you offering odds on that he gets another like a another acting gig the hollywood's gonna take him back i i mean i i would think i would
Starting point is 00:08:20 take one-to-one odds on that really definitely i wouldn't be one-to-one odds yeah or i one-to-one odds on that. Really? Definitely. I wouldn't be shocked. One-to-one odds? Yeah. One-to-one. I would take one-to-one odds that he gets some type of new TV deal or music. He'll come and repair his image. This is what they do. He'll have a whole apology tour, right? He'll come out and say he was sorry.
Starting point is 00:08:41 He realized what he did and how bad it was. And then he starts making millions again. Doesn't one-to-one mean that you'd put up money and win nothing if you were right no no i mean a dollar for a dollar right so i uh plus 100 so that's two to one though isn't it no no two to one is i put up a dollar and if i win you pay me two bucks is that what it is yeah sure okay i don't yeah i think you're right sorry yeah maybe i haven't been in the casino in long enough it's been actually a couple weeks yeah so i think you're right sorry yeah maybe i haven't been in the casino in long enough it's been actually a couple weeks yeah so you think you think so i kind of thought his career was over i mean he's a laughingstock in a non-clown world i think i think it's over but
Starting point is 00:09:14 we live in clown world that's true i mean also um so i'm not sure if you guys are familiar with brian peck but he was convicted i believe raping a child, and he was brought back to work at Disney after he served his sentence. So, oh, no, I'm sorry. So, yeah, ABC slash Disney hires convicted child molester Brian Peck to work on children's TV show one year after he's released from prison. So the idea that they're above hiring Jesse Smollett is... Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:09:40 And they gave, you know, was it Roman Polanski? Oh, yeah. Yeah. And who's the other guy? Who's the other guy? Who's the other guy? What's his face? The newer guy, right? Who was joking about pedophilia on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:09:50 No, no, no, no. The other guy with the glasses. Oh, I can't remember. What's his name? He's a famous, famous guy. Famous guy with glasses? I don't know. I got nothing.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Sorry. Director, producer, whatever. Steven Spielberg. No, no, no. That's what came up. I don't want to start rumors. I don't know enough about movies and stuff yeah yeah i don't know but yeah like with whoopi goldberg they brought her right back and i'm still flabbergasted by the fact that andrew gillum is still a name in political circles after what happened with him
Starting point is 00:10:17 absolutely is he really he's still around yeah he's rehabbing his image he's repairing his marriage after that that's why that's why sometimes that's why, like, I wake up and I see the news and I'm just like, how about we go and talk about, you know, Donut Factory instead? Because it's just, I'm sick of, how do people believe this stuff at this point? How do we sit back and allow these kind of things to happen? And, you know, it's just kind of mind-numbing. Yeah, well, you know, Ian mentioned this the other day that I had said to him, the way I define elite is as a person who's never going to face any consequences for their actions and
Starting point is 00:10:48 we see that in the case of jesse smallett he was sentenced but then he's let go after serving six days so honestly i guess those are more harsh consequences than a lot of other people we would consider elite would ever end up facing but we shouldn't be surprised that he's let go because what he did was try to forward the narrative that they're constantly trying to promote in the media. Woody Allen. Racist. Woody Allen. Didn't he do something?
Starting point is 00:11:09 With his daughter or something. There was something really screwed up with him. Yeah. People are mentioning James Gunn, too. Yeah, but James Gunn was trying to be an edgelord and failing. He thought he was posting obscene jokes about children would be funny. And people were like, like bro that's gross stuff Don't do that
Starting point is 00:11:25 So it's different if you think you're being edgy And it's not and it's bad I'll be like bro that was bad don't do it again I think that's right But you know like Roman and Woody And Jussie Smollett Yeah that's kind of like yo Those people shouldn't be welcome back in this place
Starting point is 00:11:41 That's cancel culture Jussie Smollett should be cancelled Exactly well this is hilarious because every single time Anyone on the right points out that a person has done something Those people shouldn't be welcomed back in this place. Yeah. That's cancel culture. Jussie Smollett should be canceled. Exactly. Well, this is hilarious because every single time anyone on the right points out that a person has done something terrible, the left goes, I thought you were against cancel culture. As if that's any kind of point against our argument that you shouldn't comb through someone's tweets from 12 years ago and then try to cancel them because they said men are men. Right. That race car driver's dad
Starting point is 00:12:06 who's had the Edward in the 80s. Sponsors canceled him. That's so insane. Some things should be canceled, right? There's a reason why we have laws in prison and some things should have a stigma to them. Yeah, but I think the problem is it always comes back to this one issue where it's just institutions
Starting point is 00:12:22 and even conservatives take these people seriously. And I'm just like, why? Stop contracting with them. Stop working with them. Stop servicing them. Stop hiring them. Stop being hired by them. Just tell these unserious people to go away.
Starting point is 00:12:37 There was a comic book store, like a game shop, and I see the big BLM fist. I keep walking. I look up on Google and it's like, we sell Magic the Gathering cards and comic books. I'm like, I'm going to go check it out. And I show up and I see the big blm fist i keep walking yeah and i'm like i look up on google and it's like we sell magic the gathering cards and comic books i'm like i'm gonna go check it out and i show up and i see a big sign in the window and i just turn right back around get my car and leave yep i'll order it online dude i'm not gonna give any service to these unserious psychotic cultists just just no i'm sorry these are the these people are the reason justice malek gets away with this
Starting point is 00:13:02 right these are the people who cheered for every single hoax every time. They always fall for it. And it's not even their falling for it. No, no, no. It's part of the plan, right? Well, no. Continue. Continue.
Starting point is 00:13:15 But I have a point I want to make about falling for it. No, I just think it's part of their plan. They want division. They want chaos. They want us withdrawing from society and not participating, right? And I think that it's really important not to fall trap to that, but also to figure out how to not support them and give them legitimacy. Yeah, so it's interesting because I think you're right that they don't fall for it because to them it does not matter whether something is true or false. What matters is whether it maps onto their ideological worldview because then in some subjective sense it's poetically true.
Starting point is 00:13:43 So it's okay for them to promote it, and forwards their goal which is overall good and noble the people who fall for it are the conservatives who don't immediately say this sounds ridiculous and it's probably bs because we're afraid that there's some slight possibility that it's a true story and we don't want to be labeled racist the one time it may have actually happened. You know what I think? I actually, I agree with you. I don't know if Jesse Smollett is going to get work, right? So they're going to let him out of jail. Maybe his appeal just fails
Starting point is 00:14:14 and he goes back to jail. They're saying it's only going to be 75 days, so two and a half months with good behavior. I don't know if he gets rehired to act, but I would actually be willing to bet that he would get a reality tv show oh yeah following the saga i mean it's people people will watch it or not why not a cnn gig right i mean that's how fundamentally unserious those networks are yeah i don't know about cnn i
Starting point is 00:14:39 think it would be interesting to see them bring him on because he's friends with don lemon but they they they you know c night as bad as they are. They don't want to punch holes purposefully in their ship as it sinks. Well, here's the thing. But hold on. Look. A&E or AMC or whatever. What's the channel that has the weird –
Starting point is 00:14:56 A&E? A&E. Yeah. Yeah. They're going to be like just a reality show and it's going to be him sitting down and be like, I didn't do this. I got to call my lawyer and they're going to follow him around. People would watch that because they hate him. So that's his opportunity and he's going to be him sitting down and be like, I didn't do this. I got to call my lawyer. And they're going to follow him around. People would watch that because they hate him. So that's his opportunity.
Starting point is 00:15:08 And he's going to write a book. I will. He's going to write a book. If I did it. Yeah, exactly. He's going to do If I Did It. He's going to have this whole OJ tour. He's going to go find the real hoaxer.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Yeah. I think that you guys are underestimating how good of an actor Jesse is. He's just going to slip into a new life. Jesse, I'm sorry. He's going to slip into a new life somewhere, become a different person, and he's just going to blend in wherever he is because he's so talented that way. And then there's going to be some beloved celebrity 20 years from now who everyone worships, and he's going to go, it was I all along, Jesse, and I fooled you with my incredible acting skills.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Isn't it crazy, though? I mean, look at when he went on, was it ABC? Was it ABC? Yeah, I think it was 60 Minutes or something. He manufactures perfectly these tears. This performance. He is one of the greatest actors. Of all time.
Starting point is 00:15:57 That was the whole thing. He proved, I mean this, the whole thing was a demo tape for him. He comes out and he's like, I want to admit that I staged the whole thing and the court, the trial, that was the was the i'll be in jail i'll be out in two months call my agent very avant-garde piece of art do you remember when joaquin phoenix did that thing no he like quit acting and then started rapping and everyone was like what is he doing what's happening and then it turned out that it was a big stunt yep i remember that that's
Starting point is 00:16:22 that's probably just as well that's best bet it was it was a big stunt i was. I remember that. That's probably just Smollett's best bet. It was a big stunt to prove. I was just joshing, you guys. I was joshing around. All right. I wasn't serious. He'd probably go to jail
Starting point is 00:16:30 for a lot longer if he said that. Can you imagine? I don't think so. I don't think he's ever going to see Prison Time. No, I think actually if he admitted that he did it
Starting point is 00:16:39 and it was a hoax and he did it for acting, he'd get less time. He'd get an Oscar, bro. No, he would get less time in jail because he's getting 150 days even though he's refusing to admit what he did was wrong. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:52 He's still denying it. So they're giving him that penalty. The idea is there's something called the trial tax. You go to trial, you get a harsher penalty because the idea is really that you're wasting the court's time so they punish you. But the idea is supposed to be that you haven't learned your lesson, so you need more time in jail. Well, and then to put it cynically, the other idea is if we make people feel more afraid to go to trial, then we can just sentence people for crimes without actually having to give them their day in court.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Yeah, so they'll pick him back up. Maybe. Yeah, I mean, at the very least, it's not something we would ever put past them. Oh, man. Isn't it depressing though yeah i guess i mean if you ever had any hope in hollywood i suppose or the legal system i think the thing is the bigger thing that's fair that's fair oh man but it's also chicago i mean i'm yeah that's fair i'm from illinois so it's yeah as are we it is yeah yeah wouldn't it be just it would just be so funny if it turns out that this really did happen and the cops staged all the evidence to like
Starting point is 00:17:50 you know just make them look bad it's like the worst white supremacist hate crime that's ever taken place turns out that the two white dudes who attacked Jesse were actually like off duty cops goes all the way up to Trump even higher goes all the way up to Putin and it actually is manga country and we're making fun of this poor guy
Starting point is 00:18:04 no one tells you this but Cook County very red incredibly red Even higher. It goes all the way up to Putin. And it actually is MAGA country. We're making fun of this poor guy. No one tells you this, but Cook County, very red. Very, very red. Incredibly red. Deep red. Cook County? It's just a city, right? No, it's a little bit outside of the city. Some of the suburbs are Cook County. Well, Illinois itself is red. Who is it that said there are no
Starting point is 00:18:21 blue states, only blue cities? Yeah. That's true. And there are red cities, no blue states, only blue cities? Yeah. That's right. That's true. And there are red cities, which is interesting. But the interesting thing about Chicago is that it's not even blue. It's zombie. You have like Illinois growing up in Chicago, you have the zombie contingent and the Republican contingent.
Starting point is 00:18:40 And Republicans, you know, they can vary from very ignorant to very knowledgeable. But the people in the cities who are voting Democrat are the zombie contingent, 99%. And that's what I grew up around, people who are just like, vote blue no matter who. And I'm like, who are you voting for? Don't know, don't care, as long as it's not a Republican. And I'm like, the city has been run by Democrats for 80-plus years, and it's worse than ever. No, it's doing really well. Just worse than ever. It's going great doing really well. Just worse than ever.
Starting point is 00:19:05 It's going great. And it's funny too because we used to have, do you guys know what elotes is? Mm-mm. It's like, on the south side of Chicago, these guys pull up
Starting point is 00:19:13 with carts full of corn. Oh! Yeah, they'll take the corn and they put mayonnaise, parmesan, and cayenne pepper on it and you eat it. So good.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Or, I would always have them, they cut the corn off into a cup and mix it with mayonnaise, parmesan, and cayenne. And they had it too. It was like a dollar. They got banned in our neighborhood. Terrible. But only like – they couldn't cross Cicero on the south side because when you cross – so this is the fascinating thing about the Midway area from like harlem to cicero which is a few miles from 47th to like 63rd was a
Starting point is 00:19:47 generally white polish immigrant and like whiter area when you crossed 47th to the north side it was all black community all black housing when you cross cicero became all like latino so the city for some reason banned the elotes guys from coming into our neighborhood but they could still like they couldn't cross cicero and that was the weirdest thing to us because we were like so the guys who sell corn who are hispanic can stay in the hispanic neighborhood but we like the corn we love those guys they took it away from us it's almost like they wanted the segregation in that yes and here's the funny thing is like there are certain things that like break down cultural divides, right? Like it's food, it's music, it's, you know, movies, literature.
Starting point is 00:20:31 And I do think there's something to that. This whole like anti-cultural appropriation thing is really meant to keep us from participating in other cultures and being open to it and breaking down those barriers. Cinco de Mayo is a great holiday because everyone likes tacos. And it's not denigrating to the Mexican community to celebrate Cinco de Mayo. It's a good thing to participate. Catholics are really good about this. We take over and baptize all these pagan holidays and make them ours. And it's beautiful. That's colonization. And we're not giving them back oh ever ever you guys not even christmas trees that's
Starting point is 00:21:10 what we're told not even christmas which i didn't know i've had people tell me that they're like you know when you worship easter you're worshiping a fertility god it's like i didn't know that i didn't know that i guess well but i guess you know better than me what i'm doing you didn't realize that you were you didn't catch yourself when you were praying that you were actually saying fertility goddess? I know. It's crazy. It's like you were saying those words. But, yeah, no, it's true that there are a lot of things from other cultures that can be sanctified, and people from different cultures are able to relate to each other.
Starting point is 00:21:38 And part of the problem is because racial tensions are so high and we have really stoked the flames of genuine hatred along ethnic lines people are afraid not only to participate in other people's cultures but to even engage in humor that might be targeted towards other groups even in a more playful way and i find it interesting because i think you see this happen sometimes every now and again you'll meet that couple who make jokes about each other but you can tell it's in like kind of a stabby sort of way. They're really being sort of crass and snide to each other. And it's very painful for everyone who's there. But then you have some couples who can kind of poke fun at each other.
Starting point is 00:22:14 And it's really funny and everyone enjoys it. I think what happens is as a relationship between two people or a group of people breaks down, humor goes from something which can be cherished and which is very endearing and helps bring them together and it turns into something really insulting and the same exact joke can be really funny coming from a person who you have a good relationship with or really uh offensive coming from someone who you don't and so i think i think uh breaking down racial relations people ask why everything's so pc i think a huge part of it is we just don't trust each other. I was just thinking about the cultural appropriation stuff and the protests. I remember that video where the girl at prom or whatever she wore the –
Starting point is 00:22:54 Chinese dress. Yeah. What is it called? A kimono. No, that's Japanese. It was called – it was a Chinese thing. And people in the chat will tell us what it was called. So I'm forgetting.
Starting point is 00:23:05 And then people in China were like, that's cool. Like they actually really liked it. And I thought about – I was thinking Chinese thing. And people in the chat will tell us what it was called. So I'm forgetting. And then people in China were like, that's cool. Like they actually really liked it. And I thought about – I was thinking about this. There's also the video where the guy's got dreads and the black girl like literally grabs him. And she's like, you're stealing my culture. And he's like, what are you talking about? And then I'm like, how come these people never protest Taco Bell? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Why don't they show up to Panda Express? Well, also as if if there's one ethnic group that just owns dreadlocks that's not true though, I mean the Vikings had it yeah exactly, that's my point and I know a bunch of people in Scandinavian countries who have dreadlocks because of they had dreadlocks, but it's like
Starting point is 00:23:36 people have hair dude, people can do what they want to their hair, you don't own hairstyles that's our do, we copy intellectual property yo, Taco Bell bears no resemblance to actual Mexican food. That's exactly right. Hard shell tacos. Burritos. Burritos aren't a Mexican
Starting point is 00:23:52 thing. And cheddar cheese. What's going on here? That nacho cheese is not cheese. It's powder cheese. Panda Express. Now I'll tell you. Taco Bell is delicious. It's almost worth the bottle obstruction. Panda Express. Now I'll tell you, Taco Bell is delicious. It's almost worth the bottle obstruction. Panda Express is also
Starting point is 00:24:07 delicious, but man, they're just chunks of sugary fried chicken and it's good, but I'm not going to pretend it's actually Chinese food. Thai food in this country is a sugary, fatty, Americanized version. The same thing with all of these different foods. And you know what? People
Starting point is 00:24:23 love it. So if these people want to go, cultural appropriation is wrong, stop ordering Pad Thai on Grubhub. I know you're doing it because it's like the number one food on Grubhub or it's in the top five or whatever. Pizza, it's Italian. What gives you the right? No one's protesting these things. You know what? You ever notice that
Starting point is 00:24:40 no one ever starts an Irish food chain? There's an Irish food chain. Like an Irish food chain. So terrible! That's not like a large national thing. You don't have a bunch of them in every single city. We have Scottish. We wish some people would appropriate that part.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Honestly, no, I'm glad. Why don't you make O'Donald's? McDonald's is an Irish name. This is not Irish food. No, it's MC. It's when it's MAC. It's Scottish. When I went to the when it's MAC, it's Scottish. When I went to the UK, they told me it was Scottish. What did those Brits say to you?
Starting point is 00:25:08 They're going to tell you more colonizer lies about Ireland? Are you going to believe them, bro? Are you serious right now? Learn your history. Look it up. I think you're wrong. Maybe. I hope not.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Because if we lose McDonald's, we have nothing left. In the United States, I often have like a stupid dad joke where I tell people, and they're like, what do you want to get? I'll be like, do you guys want to get Irish food? They'll be like, oh, yeah, there's a good place, McDonald's. And everyone laughs. I did that in the UK, and they all looked at me, and they were like, that's Scottish. And I was like, no, no, it's MC, and they were like, O is Irish.
Starting point is 00:25:36 MC is Scottish. And I was like, is it? That's not true, no. MC is Irish. McNamara is my mother's maiden name, and they're all from Ireland. Yeah, yeah. MCs. Those Brits lied to you. Those they're all from Ireland. Yeah. MCs. Those Brits lied to you.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Those Brits lied to you. Of course they did. All right. Well, let's talk about the next lie. Oh, boy. We got the story from the New York Post. Boston social justice activist and husband scammed at least $185,000 from donors, so say the feds. They're being hit with, I think it's 18 different charges, federal charges.
Starting point is 00:26:08 They say a high-profile social justice activist in Boston and her husband used a nonprofit they founded to scam at least $185,000 from donors who included a Black Lives Matter chapter and the local DA's office, federal authorities allege. Monica Cannon Grant and Clark Grant allegedly treated their violence in Boston organization as a personal piggy bank to pay for rent, shopping sprees, delivery meals, visits to a nail salon, summer vacation trip to Maryland. I heard that they were
Starting point is 00:26:34 going to Bubblegum Shrimp. That was one of the things that was heavily reported. They're going to mention the following year she was named Best Social Justice Advocate by Boston Magazine and one of the Boston Globe's Bostonians of the Year. When will people stop falling for this stuff?
Starting point is 00:26:50 Should we run through the list again? Should we run through the list? The Trayvon Martin story. What was the initial report? That a white guy saw a black kid and then attacked him and killed him, shot him. What really happened? Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman got into a fight. Maybe Zimmerman was in the wrong for confronting him. He was a neighborhood watch and Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman got into a fight. Maybe Zimmerman was in the wrong for confronting him.
Starting point is 00:27:06 He was a neighborhood watch and Trayvon Martin was walking behind houses. Trayvon Martin had him in a ground pound position where he was on top of him and pummeling him. And then George Zimmerman shot him in the chest and killed him. Zimmerman's Hispanic. We also have Michael Brown. Hands up. Don't shoot. That was a lie.
Starting point is 00:27:19 That was a total lie. Also, remember with the Trayvon case, NBC actually deceptively edited the phone call in order to make it sound like Zimmerman was describing Trayvon Martin as being up to no good because he was quote-unquote black. They asked him, what does he look like? He says he looks like he's up to no good. He's wearing a black hoodie, something along those lines. And they cut it together to say he looks like he's up to no good, black. Well, the other thing is the whole thing was a sham with Trayvon Martin. The picture that you saw everywhere was him when he was like 11 or 12.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Right. And he was much, much older and much, much bigger. They made it out like George Zimmerman beat up like a 12-year-old little punk kid. And he was much older than that. Jussie Smollett. Lie. Gosh, yeah. Ahmed Arbery story.
Starting point is 00:28:01 He was just jogging. That was a lie. It's just every single day there's a new lie. Rittenhouse. Rittenhouse. Yeah, the whole thing. The entire thing was that, oh, he crossed state lines and he shouldn't have that gun. As soon as I saw the story, it was very obvious to me, and I think everyone who saw it, that this was a case of self-defense.
Starting point is 00:28:17 But then they started muddying the waters by saying he had broken gun laws or crossed state lines and maybe he was looking for trouble. But not only could none of that be substantiated i'm pretty sure they just made all of it up because it was so obvious that this kid was defending himself and then what ends up happening is people go well because they've muddied the waters now we have to wait for more answers before we can really be sure and take a side and the story loses momentum at a certain point i just you know i every every few months i say something where i'm just like it's all the same thing every day we we wake up we have a new story because i've been i've
Starting point is 00:28:51 been you know talking about these stories and criticizing the hoaxes going on seven or so years now um a little bit longer but doing the actual youtube stuff and the podcast stuff and at a certain point i'm kind of just like what's the point of saying it if it doesn't change anything? No, no, no, no. I think that's the wrong mentality. I wouldn't lose hope. There are a lot of people. You're seeing the complete decentralization
Starting point is 00:29:13 of how people get their information. I was going through a lot of your episodes before coming on, and it's absolutely beautiful. 450,000 people, I mean, for the last few episodes, watch your show. That is beautiful. Plus clips and live viewership isn't counted in that number. Exactly. And the thing is, what you're doing is exactly right. You are giving so many people the information that they need and you don't need to get 100% of the people. You don't even need 50%.
Starting point is 00:29:40 You need a solid 10 to 25% of americans that are getting solid information because those are the people that are gonna go talk to their family and friends and make sure that they know the information there's like 10 to 25 percent of americans are just helpless they're zombies then like there's this 50 in the middle that are actually persuadable and then there's like us right like that are on the front lines activist types i i think you're actually doing the lord's work here and i wouldn't lose. I think there's a lot to be done. Maybe that's it. Maybe what needs to happen is we're growing.
Starting point is 00:30:09 We're building infrastructure. We're expanding. We're doing new shows. We're getting a new headquarters. And then I guess what really happens is in 10 or 15 years, these cable networks won't exist anymore. Exactly. You want to know what's crazy?
Starting point is 00:30:21 And this is no dig. I'm a big fan of It's Always Sunny. But I heard that It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia had a new season out. How many – you guys have heard of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, right? It's now the longest-running live-action comedy series, I guess. So how many viewers do you think this show got on their seventh season on average? How many people watched one episode? At the premiere?
Starting point is 00:30:44 No, no, no, not the premiere. Just like throughout the season on average. How many people do you episode? At the premiere? Yeah. No, no, no. Not the premiere. Just like throughout the season on average. How many people do you think watched an episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia? I'm going to pretend I'm not Googling it. No, no. Just tell me what you think. 500,000.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Duck, duck, go. So it was about, I think the premiere episode of season seven was like 2 million. Wow. And then they would get like 1.3 to 1.5 million per episode. How many people do you think watch now? 50,000. 300. 200 to 300,000 per episode.
Starting point is 00:31:12 I'm not digging on them. I'm a fan. I think it's always funny. It's funny. I don't really watch it for the most part. I think what happens is, you know, we've launched a couple other shows. We have the vlog. We have Chicken City.
Starting point is 00:31:22 We have Pop Culture Crisis. And I'm wondering if there's just cultural swings in terms of what people are interested in and sitcoms have just you know there's too many options so people are watching a bunch of different shows and also you know back when this show was at its peak we didn't have this plethora of content and we didn't have this plethora of streaming services so didn't have this plethora of streaming services so what's happening is it's not so much that people don't like the show it's that over time people start using technology and they start absorbing information in different ways so what the reason i bring this up is that i think it's entirely possible and likely
Starting point is 00:31:57 that within 10 or 15 years cnn just has nothing and they're gone and then it doesn't matter that people believe them because there's nothing to believe anymore. They don't exist. However, 10 years after that, this show will be outdated with limited viewership, and people will be in the metaverse or who knows where. It's all going to be Shimcast, baby. All Shimcast.
Starting point is 00:32:16 That's right. You plug your brain right into the Neuralink, and then Shim speaks directly into your mind. I think what's going to end up happening, too, unfortunately, and people are going to have to be vigilant about this is as you have mentioned it's very easy to covertly fund people online so i think there are going to be a lot of people who want to promote the establishment narrative who are going to be very well funded by people from within the establishment who traditionally would have just given their money to cnn or placed advertisements on their network
Starting point is 00:32:41 you see it you know you see it on YouTube, the favorite channels. They're trying to prop up CNN so much to perpetuate all these lies. Are you guys familiar with Defiant L's? Yes. I think it was Defiant L's who had this. So what they do is they show a tweet from someone, and then they show a follow-up, which is like failure. And it was like Brian Stelter talking about you know we
Starting point is 00:33:05 can't just trust the cops on this jesse smollett thing you know we got to hear it out and the next one is like jesse smollett sentenced to 100 days in jail for and it's just like yeah you know you shouldn't be listening to people who are i'll tell you this i can give him credit for being a bit skeptical for sure but like at some point you kind of just say like we know or we should err on the side of that was bs yeah well the skepticism only ever runs in one direction every single time we hear an accusation of racial hatred we're told if we don't buy into it hook line and sinker it's because we actually just hate black people and not that we want more evidence before we jump to a conclusion yeah but when it runs in the other direction when when it's a BLM activist or Jussie Smollett hoaxing or doing something illegal or corrupt, well, then we need to stop and wait for the evidence and make sure that we have all the facts straight before we comment.
Starting point is 00:33:52 I can think of one time there was a mass campaign with racist vandalism. It was carried out by a bunch of young white men. It was when those white supremacists put up those flyers everywhere saying it's okay to be white. That's right. Yeah. Which it is it is not it's yeah it is not disavow disavow apparently that's the message they're sending it's the it was brilliant trolling you know so you know for those unfamiliar i think most people know this they were it was a white sheet of paper and it just said it's okay to be white and people would put the sticker on a pole and they'd be like you're a white supremacist and they're like that's crazy yeah this is an interesting discussion i had with some of my friends and i just want to ask you guys do you identify as white me i don't i i but i'm
Starting point is 00:34:35 but everybody knows i'm like yeah i'm more catholic than anything yeah but actually everybody knows the meme that i have second generation mixed race family so we don't have that that's like i i guess there are people that are but but the idea is – it's interesting. The left says, see, the reason you don't is because you live in a world full of white people, so you're default. Why would you identify with what everyone else is? But this is the problem with that analysis. Firstly, it's entirely uncritical. It's not actually looking at specific ethnic backgrounds. So Irish people and other ethnicities, which were generally more Catholic, as a matter of fact, such as the Irish, the Italians, the Polish, were not considered white, even though we had white skin.
Starting point is 00:35:15 So I see whiteness, quote unquote, is an identity which has often been used to exclude Catholics. Well, that's not something I identify with. That's partially what the left critical race theorists argue, that whiteness is a political term and always has been because there were white people who weren't white. And they actually argue now Eastern Europeans aren't white. Like, yeah, Luke, Luke Rutkowski, blonde hair, blue eyes, they say is a person is not white. Well, here's the issue. In the United States, we have a very unique racial history as a result of slavery. Black people unfortunately lost a lot of their ethnic identity because they were brought over here forcibly and were not able to retain the information on what part of Africa they came from specifically. And I think that's become rejected onto people who we
Starting point is 00:35:54 call white now, even though they would have considered themselves Irish, Polish, Italian, Dutch when they came over here. They're thrown into an analogous category of white, even though they're more or less identifying or had identified until much more recently with an ethnic identity. They have a racial identity because of what you just described. Whereas for a white person, you could say you're proud of being Irish or Scottish or Ukrainian, but not white. Yeah, but there's this kind of mountain valley fallacy, which they engage in where they will try to say things like we're only against white privilege in a system that places you on a pedestal simply because of your skin color. We're not actually talking about your skin color specifically. But then how do they identify you? Well, by your skin color.
Starting point is 00:36:46 And they'll go after you and say you're bad because you're white. So even though I don't identify as white. You want to talk about white privilege, Justice Millett. Yeah. If whiteness is political, then a millionaire celebrity who is propped up by the media and defended when he commits a hoax and then still has activists getting his back now that's that's some kind of privilege and at what point if whiteness is political at what point would black people become politically white it's like no it's a serious
Starting point is 00:37:14 question good question well i mean they will call black conservative activists white supremacists right i mean literally white just means bad and black means good. That's how they use these terms. Yeah, no, and then you have the other thing where they're redefining all these terms. The ADL came out and defined racism as the support of systemic racism. They use the same words to define it, which is always a really bad sign. Yes. But basically, the only way you can be anti-racist or against racism is to support marxism yeah like 100 that's the plan the adl changed the definition of racism to be about something like racial dominance or something like that and then had to change it again like a week later and apologize because something
Starting point is 00:38:02 happened in like a jewish community and they were like oh maybe we should have thought about what we were we were claiming because people started saying you couldn't be racist against jewish people or something like that and then all of the adl was like we better revert our definition talk to whoopi goldberg oh yeah yeah yeah she she she's she knows all um apparently they used to arrest people like tucker carlson and tulsi gabbard for you know propaganda, which is not true. That whole Whoopi Goldberg scandal got just memory holes. It's like it never even happened. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:38:33 That's what it was, right? The ADL, that's what happened. She came out. That was amazing. She said that wasn't racist. That was just white people and white people, you know, and white people. And then the ADL realized, like, hmm, this whiteness definition of racism is really backfiring on, you know, like the Jewish community.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Maybe they shouldn't have tried playing the woke game, and then they realized they had to change it back. By the way, I can't, I saw an hysterical tweet, someone called them, the ADL, the Anti-Definition League. Oh, yeah, it was fantastic. I thought that was fantastic. Very clever. But I'll also say, too, it's always
Starting point is 00:39:08 funny when people will define racism as systemic racism, specifically, because, A, I mean, you lose the ability to analyze racism at the level of individual behavior rather than just looking at it systemically. But on top of that, you mentioned using definitions
Starting point is 00:39:23 or using the actual word you're defining within the definition this is the first thing you are taught in any etymology class i just want to define a word you cannot use that word in the definition exactly so i don't know if uh i don't know if i mentioned this in the show about the uh the black card revoked we talked about that right maybe the black card revoked we went to, I think we were in Altoona, Pennsylvania. Was it Altoona? Maybe not. Yeah, I think it was.
Starting point is 00:39:52 I don't know. Anyway, we're at an Airbnb, and they had a bunch of board games. They had a pack of cards, and it was called Black Card Revoked. Huh. Yeah, we talked about this with Gothics. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's right. That's right.
Starting point is 00:40:03 It was a card game that was supposed to be, you know, it was for black people to play, and it was about black culture. And it asked questions like, what movie does every black person have in their collection? And I thought it was racist. And I'm like, man, but hey, far be it for me. It was made and marketed by black people for black people. So there you go, I guess. I don't know if it's racist or not, these things are held by you know to be true by them but one of the questions was if quote unquote they give reparations
Starting point is 00:40:31 what should they give and i was like why is they in quotes they in quotes is a reference to jewish people right because when you're referring to authorities of of any power you just say they or them when it's put in quotes it it's a specific reference to Jewish people. And so I saw that and I was like, that's kind of weird. And look, I think maybe the people who made this game are anti-Semites and it's possible because they have ties to high-profile politicians. We're looking at that story. Maybe there's something there. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:03 But we know that there's a lot of prominent Black Lives Matter activists that are deeply anti-Semitic. Yeah. We saw this with the Women's March. These individuals were forced to resign because they were pushing insane conspiracy theories about the Jewish people. Yeah. Well, look, if you tell people that any time a group of people is successful, it's because
Starting point is 00:41:18 they're stealing something from you. They're going to look at every successful group of people and say they're stealing something from us. I don't know why anyone thought that that would start and end with white people. Yeah. Yeah, that's why I can't stand the – just like the general anti-Semitic – like – so anti-Semitism in general is annoying to me because it's the same CRT argument. A privileged group of people dominate.
Starting point is 00:41:39 I'm like, get out of here, dude. Like any – look, I know there are CEOs of big companies and in media who are not of a particular ethnic background. It can be anybody who works hard and succeeds. It's weird that people are like, I notice there's a whole lot of one group of people in this industry. That proves it. And I'm like, dude, that's a privilege argument. That's a ridiculous argument. I'm not playing that game.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Well, and if you know, like I have friends who are Orthodox Jews and the reason that they're that they have influence and they that they are successful is because they have such a strong community. Like they their family. It's family. It's their it's their friends. Like they are so tight knit. Like they help pay for each other's kids like tuition at school they they i wish that like catholics had a community similar to that yeah because it's so strong and it's it's it's admire admirable um really i would get in there honestly though i'm seeing it a lot of places with catholics the annoying thing to me about the
Starting point is 00:42:36 anti-semitism be it from blm or from like white supremacist groups or whatever it's like right now in new york we've had this ongoing problem where Hasidic Jews are being chased down and brutally beaten. And I'm just like, where is the great power structure to intervene and tell the police to actually deal with this hate that's happening on the streets? But they don't. Why? Because the people who run New York also are deeply anti-Semitic. Right. So, I mean, it's like, you know, it's not Bill de Blasio anymore, but that dude is a far leftist who probably held all of these same insane beliefs.
Starting point is 00:43:07 And so this idea that one group has privilege over the others, yeah, sometimes some groups do, but I think the real issue is merit. Merit, drive, and a little bit of luck sprinkled on top. Chance favors the prepared. But for the most part, if you are smart and you work really hard, you'll become successful. But ultimately, we've talked about this before when it comes to why you see a high propensity of successful Jewish individuals. Could it be family? We know that family
Starting point is 00:43:34 is a key indicator of success, regardless of your religious background. As you were saying with the Catholics. Well, no, but family is everything, right? Lydia and I were talking about this before the show. Family is why you get a job. Family is why you go to work.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Family is why you love your country and why you go to war and you're willing to die in it so that your kids and your grandkids can have a good life. Family drives everything. And the social science on this is so boring because it's so predictable, right? Kids raised in a loving household with parents that take them to church on Sunday are always the best performing group. They're, they commit less crime. They don't commit suicide.
Starting point is 00:44:11 They don't get addicted to drugs. It's all very boring and it's all basic. And, and, you know, the Jewish community is like really figure that out. Are you familiar with the, uh, blue zones? No. It's where the, uh, there's like seven areas of the planet where people have a life expectancy that exceeds 100 or where there's like the highest propensity towards having people live over 100. And so some researchers went to these areas to figure out what do they have in common
Starting point is 00:44:39 that may contribute to people living to be over 100. And there's some interesting things, like they eat only until they're about 85% full. They don't overeat. But one of the most interesting things is they all have a job. So they talk to this one, he's a Japanese guy, and he's like 102 and he's chopping wood. And they're like, why are you doing this?
Starting point is 00:45:00 Shouldn't you be relaxing and be retired? And he's like, well, if I don't do it, who will? Someone's got to get the wood. And it was for his community and for his family community and family was another big part of it they're very close-knit and tight-knit family uh families and communities and the reason he had to chop the wood was because he needed to make sure everybody had this available and if he didn't no one else would yep i was also reading that the highest um like the biggest spike in when deaths occur is right after retirement. So I think people need to understand how important purpose is in a human's life.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Without purpose, people become dejected, depressed, and violent, like we see with so many young people these days. And with purpose, we see a lot of people living to be over 100 years old. Yep, that's right. And actually, there's a lot of studies that have come out over the last few decades that show the benefits of not just having children for your mental health down the road, but super old people,
Starting point is 00:45:55 when they're around their grandkids a lot, their cognitive ability, they can reverse parts of dementia and erosion in the brain. It's really cool stuff. And I think you're right. It's about duty. It's about responsibility.
Starting point is 00:46:10 It's about purpose. Because when you lose that, like so many people when they retire. My great grandmother lived to be 95. And she didn't really start to fall apart until she got out of her daily routine. She used to go to the library. She went to two Goodwill stores, a thrift store and the Goodwill. She went to all the grocery stores,
Starting point is 00:46:32 clipped the coupons. As soon as she stopped doing that, she just kind of fell apart. Think about it from an evolutionary perspective. You've got a finite amount of energy in a certain area and resources for a life form, be it human or otherwise. And so what happens if there is a group of people or a group of animals
Starting point is 00:46:52 and several of them stop producing for the rest of their herd? It's a strain on the herd. And so then what happens is the old, you know, it stands to reason that life evolves duty and purpose because those who have a sense of duty and purpose to each other are more likely to survive more likely to have kids and thus those traits are carried on into the future with us thus family and community are extremely important the other interesting thing too is i think purpose you have to have a reason to to do things to be alive otherwise we're we're we're facing uh the rat utopia experiment in my opinion are you familiar we've mentioned it
Starting point is 00:47:31 several times and recently this is where they put a bunch of rats in a you know unlimited food unlimited water but finite space what happens when you don't have when you don't have to fight for food what happens when you don't have to do any work you're lazy it's it's not just that they found what They found what they called behavioral sync. Behaviors started to break down. Cannibalism emerged. Some rats would just groom themselves incessantly and never
Starting point is 00:47:53 do anything. They would engage in strange behaviors. And if they took one of the rats out of the utopia and put it with a regular population, its ideas would persist and spread. So without purpose and without struggle, humans become likely, in my opinion, will become broken, you know, and unhealthy. Yeah. Things fall apart. And I would say, I mean, even beyond the sort of more materialistic Darwinian analysis,
Starting point is 00:48:17 we can just say that human beings have deep spiritual needs. There's something about us that's very mysterious and difficult to understand. And we're not contributing to something that we understand is greater than ourselves. We do start to fall apart. Yeah, absolutely. You need that drive. We've looked into this actually a lot on the economic side of things. And the funny thing is, is like you would think that, you know, having kids and getting married would like, you know, put you further back in terms of how much money you're making. It's actually not true. And there's this weird thing. A lot of experts think that when you have children, it's actually a bigger motivator to get a better job, start,
Starting point is 00:48:55 you know, invest more in your business so you can provide better. But it's, it's overall, like when you, when you have to struggle, you have to cut the fat. You have to become more efficient. And it just keeps you on your toes. And family, I think, helps drive that. Community helps drive that. For a lot of people, they have no purpose. And I think if you look at the millennial generation, I wonder what it could be. Well, there's two things.
Starting point is 00:49:18 No religion, no kids. Yeah. So then what do they live for? For people who a long time ago – I'm not saying this to say that um people should be religious but certainly without religion we can see people become listless we used to have you know people had faith they had community religion served several purposes you would go to church and that meant you were with your community you were communicating with
Starting point is 00:49:41 each other you were sort of synchronizing a lot of ways it was a chance for the people who live next to each other to talk about what was affecting them so that was important yeah we don't have that anymore people don't even talk to their neighbors anymore it's really weird it is when i was growing up like i was always with my neighbors like we they weren't and they all went to different churches right i mean some of my friends went to the same church as me but like like, we had a neighborhood gang. We would literally ride our bikes around, we built forts, and we knew all the other neighbors, even if they didn't have kids,
Starting point is 00:50:11 and they would talk to us and, you know, hang out. Parties. Block parties, barbecues. And that doesn't happen anymore. Especially in New York, man. You go to New York and you live on top of somebody and you never met them. That's the weirdest thing to me. Every apartment I've ever had, you know, I'm in New York City city i was living off of um myrtle and nostrand and there's uh there are people my age behind me below me and above me and it's like why don't i know who they
Starting point is 00:50:34 are no we could probably play xbox together and order pizza if i just talk to the talk to the guy never did yeah just never happens yeah in a very strange way the internet has actually alienated us from our own actual location. There's been something wonderful about the fact that it's given access or given us access to people who are nowhere near us. But you stop forming social connections with the people who are right next to you. Yeah. Let's talk about some more media lies and family and all that stuff. We got the story from Politico.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Americans split over Florida's controversial bills on gender, identity, and race. So controversial. Let me just slow down here and correct the article before we even get into it. They're, of course, referring to the parental rights and education bill, which the Democrats call Don't Say Gay, which is a lie. It's weird. It is controversial. Fine, I guess.
Starting point is 00:51:19 But it is not a bill on gender, identity, and race. That seems strange to me. The bulk of the bill in Florida, as we often clarify, is parents have a right to know what's happening. Yep. That and no sex ed for preschoolers to third grade. Five, six, seven, eight years old. That's it. Teachers are still allowed to talk to kids and say the word gay to their faces.
Starting point is 00:51:38 A teacher can still go up to a child and say, you should be gay. That is not being banned in any way. Makes you wonder about what Republicans are actually doing. Bill doesn't even nearly go far enough. So here not being banned in any way. Makes you wonder about what Republicans are actually doing. Bill doesn't even nearly go far enough. So here we go. I love this. Politico says the poll asked respondents about Florida's parental rights and education dubbed the don't say gay bill by opponents.
Starting point is 00:51:57 There's the funny thing in their actual poll. The question refers to it as don't say gay. And I'm like, that is not proper polling. Dishonest. But you're still seeing the majority say they agree with it i really don't like how they're framing it as americans being sharply divided on this issue i mean there's a 16 point gap there and you've got 30 this is an issue where 33 percent of democrats support what desantis Yeah, that's not sharply divided. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Like when you're over 50 percent and your opponents are at 35. Imagine if Donald Trump had beaten Joe Biden by, you know, 51 percent to 35 percent. That's a landslide. Right. Like so it's just the whole thing is skewed. The questions are skewed. But they had to at least admit it, that they're not. One of the crazy things is that 69% of Americans support the banning of Sputnik and RT, it appears.
Starting point is 00:52:53 I mean, that's kind of crazy to me. You should just watch that stuff knowing it's probably bunk, but see what they're telling people for sure. But I'm going to see if I can find the exact question here because it's funny. The political poll question is not just a, here we go. Instead of saying, do you support the parental rights
Starting point is 00:53:13 and education bill out of Florida? They say this, as you may know, the Florida legislature has passed a bill labeled by opponents as the don't say gay bill, limiting the teaching
Starting point is 00:53:22 of sexual orientation and gender identity to Florida school students. Some say that limiting these discussions will protect children from inappropriate classroom topics, while others say it will block important conversations about LGBTQ issues. To what extent do you support or oppose the following items in the bill?
Starting point is 00:53:36 Banning the teaching of sexual orientation and gender identity from kindergarten through third grade. Strong support is 37%. Somewhat support is 13%. And then somewhat opposes 11 strongly opposed 23 weirdo clearly see the majority there is in favor of uh in support of it they then go on to ask the basic same basically the same question and then say limiting lessons on orientation and identity after third grade to age appropriate discussions and you still have
Starting point is 00:54:02 the majority 32 in support of 20 somewhat supporting and you still have the majority, 32% in support of, 20% somewhat supporting. So you still have the majority there being like, yeah, it should be age-appropriate. My question is, what would the percentage have been if they didn't frame this in favor of lies from the Democrats on the left? They tell you what the opponents of the bill call it, but not the actual name in the question. How much more bias can you get with it? And they push the lie from the Democrats instead of telling you what the bill actually does. They say opponents say it will block important
Starting point is 00:54:36 conversations about LGBTQ issues. That's irrelevant. What if they said this? Let me read you the question reframed. As you may know, the Florida legislature has passed a bill labeled by opponents as the Don't Say Straight Bill, limiting the teaching of orientation and identity to Florida school students. Some say that limiting these discussions will protect children from inappropriate classroom topics,
Starting point is 00:54:57 while others say it will block important conversations about traditional marriage issues. To what extent do you support or oppose the following items in the bill? There's no difference in the bill. I could literally call it don't say straight and say Republicans have just banned teaching children about traditional marriage.
Starting point is 00:55:13 It's true, literally true. But see, Politico comes out and they poll people. Now, here's why I bring this up. Even though they falsely framed the story based on lies, the majority still agree with it yeah it's weird there's like a super majority of americans and i know this is this is pretty radical like that the vast majority of americans they don't want to sexualize kids like they want to let them be kids you know like why do we have to make everything sexual not every someone tweeted at
Starting point is 00:55:42 me today they said not everything has to be gay and i think that that's right like yeah great you do you live your life fine but not everything has to be about you i remember back um there was a there was a cartoon made by this uh this guy he was on reddit i can't remember his name he deleted it it was about atheism on reddit reddit uh when it first started one of the default subreddits getting a ton of attention it was about atheism on reddit reddit when it first started one of the default subreddits getting a ton of attention was r slash atheism that meant if you were a random regular person who went to reddit you would see posts from people about being atheist so he made this cartoon where he basically mocked the idea because reddit propped up a community that was just ragging on people for what they believed and it's like why you know why is that
Starting point is 00:56:26 a thing why is that the default position why you know I kind of forgot where I was going with that but ultimately what ends up happening is the dude deleted the cartoon and you can't find it anywhere anymore I mean maybe it's been archived somewhere but it was actually I thought it was a great point because the cartoon ends
Starting point is 00:56:42 by saying like why is this a default subreddit to just you know be on everyone's feed yeah like why just be mean to people all the time why just prop that up I lost my train of thought with my point so you guys just start talking the big thing here is like
Starting point is 00:56:57 this stuff really is happening across the country we did this video last week showing basically saying thank you to governor desantis for protecting our kids from women like this in our kids public schools and it's this woman who started this uh sexy summer camp and she's talking about um she's talking about how she's like i encourage every kid kids of all ages all ages to you know basically abuse themselves and she starts talking about how her nephews who started abusing themselves when they were toddlers like
Starting point is 00:57:32 going into this and it's like guys this is happening like there's a core a coordinated effort to sexualize your kids and like break them and so thank god you know i remember my point now basically i brought that up because what the community was doing was it making it was making a whole bunch of people who didn't know a whole lot about religion just blindly be part of this hate mob against christianity but nothing else and so when when you look at what's what's happening after the don't say gay or whatever there's like a tiktok video where a guy is like wearing a shirt with pride flags on it and it's like why why do that what do you think is happening they don't look at the news they don't read the bill they have no
Starting point is 00:58:11 idea this is so it's not just about the atheism community on reddit or anything like that it's about the fact that there is some truth to out of sight well they're out of sight out of mind is literally true if you can control what people see from the bulk of their social media, you are controlling what they will complain about. So what do we get on Twitter? People are talking about COVID. And then one day, like a switch was flicked, it's Ukraine. Yep. Because they want to make sure the only thing you see is this, these stories of this information. This is why the Democrats called it. Don't say gay. They want to make the argument. And then even Ben Shapiro walks into
Starting point is 00:58:45 that trap. Ben Shapiro tweeted to Ted Lieu, this bill stops you from indoctrinating kids with your weird gender ideology or whatever, something that effect. And I'm like, no, it doesn't. It literally does not do that. The Democrats made up a lie. They claimed here's the framing of the bill. Conservatives walked into it and said, well, actually, that framing of the bill is a good thing. And it's like both of you are talking about something totally irrelevant to what's going on. But this is the game. Media will often frame things. I'll put it this way as well.
Starting point is 00:59:13 I'll say this. Politico doing a poll where they give you a paragraph breaking down an issue is a total violation of polling ethics, in my opinion. They should say this. How do you feel about the parental rights and education bill out of florida strongly support somewhat support somewhat oppose somewhat oppose don't know or no opinion and guess what would happen don't know would be 80 exactly and hey that would be funny wouldn't it yep instead the funny thing is they still try and frame it in favor of the left's argument and the majority of people actually still support the bill.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Yep, it's got to be depressing for them. No, I mean, think about all the levers of cultural influence that the left has here, right? Like they've got the mainstream media, they've got Hollywood, they've got the music industry, corporate America, big tech, like everything. Like they control so many sources of information and they still can't win on something like this. Well, I think maybe their power is faltering. You know, less and less people are interested in the lies. The lies have become more and more obvious. I think of it like they say that wealth lasts three generations. Someone works really, really hard and builds a big business, becomes a billionaire. Their son or daughter inherits it and then takes the company over and maintains it.
Starting point is 01:00:26 They have kids. So what happens is the child of the entrepreneur was still taught the values of hard work, but was not someone who founded a company and could maintain that. Then they have kids who are taught to a certain degree the value of hard work, but certainly not how to start a company or even to maintain it. So by the third generation, you see wealth start to fizzle out. I think of it similarly in terms to how the Democrats have institutional control and how the media is playing.
Starting point is 01:00:54 It seems like two generations ago, media was strongly controlled by savvy marketers who were keen on manipulating. Then their kids inherit it it and they're like, keep the system up, keep it rolling, CNN or whatever. Now we're on the third generation who are just like, I have no idea what's going on. And so they try doing the most outrageous and garbage propaganda that doesn't work
Starting point is 01:01:15 and we're waking up to it. Yeah, well, it's interesting because one theme that has repeatedly come up as we've discussed the quote unquote, don't say gay bill is that if you're gonna refer to it as an anti-grooming bill, which would would be great it doesn't go nearly far enough and the left hears that young children below a certain age are not going to be discussing sexuality in the classroom when it would be wildly inappropriate and they go oh my goodness but what about gay people how are
Starting point is 01:01:39 we going to protect them instead of saying look this is a bill that is specifically set up to protect children from inappropriate discussions and also to ensure that parents are notified by certain things that the school district might otherwise try to keep from them, even though they have a right to know as parents. And all the left can think about is what about protecting the poor, sweet gays? That's literally it. And that's why I think it's better to call it the don't say straight bill. And I am outraged. republicans are banning discussions on traditional marriage i i agree with the democrats we should come together and say we should be allowed to teach kids about traditional marriage we should that should actually be the standard right like i mean
Starting point is 01:02:15 this is this is the truth this is what you should be shooting for i still have no problem with being like we're not going to talk to preschoolers or third graders about, you know. About sexuality. Well, this is the bizarre thing, right? Imagine thinking you're going to get public opinion on your side trying to fight a bill that says you can't talk to children below a certain age about sexuality. But then gay people won't be able to tell children about their sexuality when they're in preschool. Like what world do they live in that they think the average person is going to hear that and go, oh no! Oh my goodness! Seamus, according to this poll
Starting point is 01:02:50 at least, we have around 34% of people who don't like that. So you've got a third if we were to extrapolate the data who are hearing this from Politico, probably for the first time and saying, four-year-olds
Starting point is 01:03:06 should be taught these things you know i thank goodness that i don't know anyone who would be in support of that virtually i mean maybe i do know some people who are lefty so i made friends with when i was younger who if i ask them about this and reconnected might say they supported it but there's zombies yeah exactly those are people i really want conversations with that's disgusting i have a lot of friends from back during occupy iy that I talk to, and they don't know what's in the bill. That's what I'm saying. This is dangerous. How do you defeat – we have political zombification in this country.
Starting point is 01:03:38 We have a horde, tens of millions of political zombies, and they are tearing away at our system. No, no, no's that's right but here's where here's where donald trump was a huge benefit to the movement is that he showed us basically how to fight back and that you could actually call out the bs and the lies and end up winning these political battles and now you're seeing that being transferred to desantis and desantis is calling it out. That press conference he had was really beautiful. And I know another example of this, and he's not the greatest example, but it is Greg Abbott with what he did with that executive order.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Now, agree or disagree on what he should have done with that executive order. Which one? The one declaring gender modifications for minors to be child abuse, right? Right. Yeah. So there are some disagreements on that. But guess what? He trolled the entire national news media
Starting point is 01:04:28 into saying and letting Americans know that this is happening, gender modifications for children are happening, and by the way, Republicans think it's child abuse. Something that like 80% of Americans actually agree on. We poll on this, and even like 60% of Democrats want to ban this stuff for minors.
Starting point is 01:04:43 Absolutely. I mean, I think the issue with your average Democrat who votes Democrat is they don't know anything about what's going on. Exactly. So how you – we've got this battle. I think one of the core elements of the culture war is people who are discerning, who watch the news and seek out true information and try and fact check. And you have people who don't. The people who don't are being hypnotized. I'm just imagining there's Brian Stelter, and he's got his watch going left and right.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Don't watch Fox News. Only we can give you the true good information. And I think, who was it, Jake Tapper, who said, you can't read WikiLeaks emails. Only we can do that. Was that Tapper who did that? No, Cuomo. Cuomo was the one.
Starting point is 01:05:19 That was Cuomo who did that? Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was Cuomo. No, I think it was Tapper. I'm not sure. Maybe. Either one of them. Whatever. Cuomo who did that? Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was Cuomo. No, I think it was Tapper. I'm not sure. Maybe. Either one of them. Whatever. Cuomo's gone.
Starting point is 01:05:26 But you have regular people who, until you sit down and talk with them, you know, like I've told this before, I have friends who say they'll talk to their parents like, hey, watch Tim's show and hear what he has to say. And they're like, ah, I don't want to watch that conspiracy stuff. And they're like, he's reading CNN.com. Like he's reading Politico polls. They're just giving their thoughts on this and like a critical assessment. And then I actually end up sitting down with my friend and they ask questions.
Starting point is 01:05:49 They're like, no, Trump did this. And I'm like, oh, actually, X, Y and Z. And then they're like, well, I didn't hear that. I'll pull it up and show them. Like one of my favorite stories when I was talking about China stealing the DNA from people. That's terrifying. It was it was an NPR story that China was getting access to people's DNA through covid testing. And there are people who didn't believe me. And they were like, that's conspiracy mumbo-jumbo. And I'm like, NPR right here. Like, if you don't believe it, I got no problem. I don't trust NPR half the time either. But what is it? Do you trust NPR or not? Well, but that's the kind of thing that NPR would be incentivized against reporting on, which makes me more likely to trust them about it because their general interest is in promoting
Starting point is 01:06:24 information that makes all of the COVID testing and vaccines etc sound better rather than worse so if they're willing to say that it's probably because they have something yeah i also think that common sense should take a plight right like there's there's this over expertization thing too as well like we have to like read these things and it doesn't matter if it's fox news npr cnn msmc you if you have a little bit of common sense you can sniff out bs right like it does i don't care what degree you have or you know if you have a phd whatever but we are battling against the bill burrs and the ethan clines you know bill burr who went on jo Rogan and said look Joe I just turn on the TV every two weeks and do what they tell me to do
Starting point is 01:07:08 and it's just like if they told you to walk off a cliff would you do it like you have a limit you have a red line right you get Ethan Klein who's like you don't even got to think about it man you just go to the CDC and just tell you what to do and it's just like yo throughout history governments have oppressed people how could you be a supporter of resistance
Starting point is 01:07:24 if you're telling people to just blindly walk in lockstep with the government's mandates? That's what we're battling against. There's like a complacency and a laziness. Like people don't want to deal with really bad things, right? Like we end up – like there's like a psychosis around that. Like when things are really bad, we don't want to pay attention. We just – it's a human thing, and that's why it always had there's a cycle to it well i i'm curious what would the nra for families have to say about this and try to do about these problems about all
Starting point is 01:07:57 so basically we where we're coming at it is like start with the basics right like we we wanted to get politicians comfortable talking about the transgender issue like the left wants to put gender identity into civil rights law that has major consequences men and women's sports men and women's private spaces men and women's prisons like men and women's uh you know uh homeless shelters like there's a lot of really bad things here and so we started with the sports because that was what politicians wanted to talk about but in reality americans are broken sexually like we have disconnected sex from family we've disconnected it from children it's now just totally hedonistic and you're a weirdo if you have six kids right like i have yeah i have have you seen the meme where it's like it's like you know i think it's like nine kids lined up and then the mom's pregnant.
Starting point is 01:08:47 And then there's like a bunch of leftists saying like, this is disgusting and stuff like that. Well, it's so, I mean, but that just shows their misanthropic hand. They hate human life ultimately. They really do. They'll never acknowledge it. What they love is pleasure and engaging in pleasure. And they see other human beings' existence as very inconvenient to them because that requires that they set themselves aside
Starting point is 01:09:07 and make choices that are for the benefit of others. What's the article? It's like, in order for there to be a feminist utopia, the family must be destroyed or something like that. Yeah, no, but that was part of the Marxist movement. It's true, yep. Well, because you need to, you know, people... This is interesting.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Back during Occupy Wall Street, there were two different governments. I don't know what you want to call it. There was the General Assembly, which was everyone gathered around, and then the facilitators effectively controlled what could be said by who and when and how money was spent. But then you had a group of people who tried creating what's called the General Union. And these guys explained it to me that the way the union would work is that every tent at Occupy was a family that knew each other's interests, desires, and needs. And so a representative from each family would discuss with the larger group instead of a group of random people all adhering to perhaps the authority who facilitate the meetings. I thought it was interesting that their approach from it was we're a family. We have needs amongst each other.
Starting point is 01:10:05 We'll convey those needs to other families and then ultimately see how that greatly – but that was crushed. The general union was basically wiped out of the park. They were ostracized. They were smeared and lied about. It's like they reinvented the wheel, right? Like how society works. Like it is organized by families. I think that we've gone. The reality is it in Sheamus, you were talking about this earlier. Like we went decades without a like robust lobbying special interest group in D.C. representing families.
Starting point is 01:10:34 Like who makes politicians pay a price when they were voting to trans our kids or voting to allow pornography unrestricted? You know, no age verification. They just they say these things don't happen and right the problem is once again it's good that they do but so yeah in the long run i think you know we're starting to see that the narrative start cracking people start realizing what's going on with their kids one of the one of the things i think is really important out in west virginia it's happening people think they can move to west virginia which is the second most trump supporting state in the country after i think it's happening. People think they can move to West Virginia, which is the second most Trump supporting state in the country after I think it was Wyoming.
Starting point is 01:11:07 They think they're going to go there and find a red school. That's going to be like middle of the road. Look, we're not here to teach your kids to be religious. We're just going to, you know, teach your kids, let them be kids, play baseball and they'll learn math. And then it turns out that these woke activists are still running for school board in red areas on purpose they have a mission they have a cause they found their purpose so you you get these kids who are going to grade school in west virginia and they are surrounded by all of the cult wokeism they have all of these books like whiteness contracts and stuff like that in ibram x kendi and then when
Starting point is 01:11:39 you point it out they call you a liar and say you're making up and the media protects them yep so human beings have a natural desire to procreate and it's very strange how over the past 50 60 years or so that has been branded is sort of a strange uniquely religious impulse at bottom it's in all of us and people who are not procreating or reproducing sexually try to find other ways to spread what they are to other people and so these woke activists they're essentially the byproduct of a society that has stopped seeing sex as something which is beautiful and unitive and procreative and can literally create a human soul which will outlast the stars and the mountains and everything you've seen in this world into something that's just there for me to get a little bit of pleasure out of.
Starting point is 01:12:28 And so what happens is people become fundamentally restructured towards selfishness in pursuing hedonistic pleasure. And because they're not procreating in the traditional way, they have to make your children like them because that urge doesn't disappear. I think worse worse they're animals well i think i think robot's a better word than zombie for for a lot of people because there's something special with um with existence and life in general and especially with human life there's something special there's unique the human experience the feelings that we have
Starting point is 01:13:00 but if you reduce everything to their mechanical functions which is often what you'll see from you know the modern left then there is no unique human experience it's just all a function it's all random it's all chaos when in reality i i'll put it this way there's there's a there's there's a view uh among you know many atheists and and more of the left that you know emotions are just you know response to stimuli for for for to help you know many atheists and and more of the left that you know emotions are just you know response to stimuli for for for to help you know propagate the species and all that humans have these reactions and all that really is is you know that life is random there's nothing else out there i find it fascinating because i prefer the dr manhattan view of it have you read or watched
Starting point is 01:13:42 watchman no oh no no. Tell me about it. Dr. Manhattan, he's this doctor, he's Dr. Osterman. And he's involved in an accident which strips him of his intrinsic field. He then, one day, this body just reforms in the lab where he was working. And he has access to manipulate time and space and he perceives, you know, throughout, you know, multiple dimensions or whatever. And, uh, so he's, he's effectively a Superman. He's almost the humans are for him as a God, like, cause he has telekinesis and he can teleport, but he says he is not God. He is not omniscient. He just can see his future and past. So anyway, he ends up getting sick of humanity. He leaves and goes to Mars. But, uh, this young woman who he had been dating you know before is trying to beg
Starting point is 01:14:26 him to come back and he says you know I have seen things you know or he says a bunch of things you know like that effectively are life doesn't even matter he says look at Mars for you know tens of thousands of years it has existed without life and could you say it was not better off
Starting point is 01:14:42 what what would human you know what good would mars gain by having humans on it and so he he can see the future you know in a certain sense he tells the the young woman who's with him that you know she'll leave crying and he says you keep telling me that i refuse to see you know your your you know your way but you refuse to see the world my way because he wants her to perceive time and everything the way he does so he shows she can understand the sort of futility so in the in in in the story he then you know puts his hand on her head she can then see past and future but he can also see her past and future and what he sees is that her mother was
Starting point is 01:15:22 attacked by this other guy who tried to rape her. And she got beaten up by him, but someone came and stopped it. She then later went and met with this guy and had sex with him and then got pregnant with this woman and gave birth to her. And that kind of shocks Dr. Manhattan, who is this very, you know, computeristic, like methodical, lacking emotion. And then he says he was wrong. And he realized that, you know, he thought he had never seen a miracle before, but then he realized that in her, all of these random moments and all of this energy
Starting point is 01:15:55 and all of these things that should not have come together, come together in such astronomical odds that you could only describe humans as that miracle. So what he was basically saying is like your mother, he was like out of all the billions of years, out of all of the different life forms that came and died, it comes down to your mother who loved a man she had every reason to hate, and from it is just you. And all of those things forming this one moment could be described as a miracle.
Starting point is 01:16:23 And so that's the human experience. love that the way of thinking about it that we are these unique entities that took billions of years to finally you know come to or however long you think that everything that was around us ultimately leads to this point and it seems like the odds are are astronomically it's beyond comprehension and that's something magnificent and unique and special. So the people who look at this and say it's random, it's whatever, I'll be like, yo, winning the lottery is random. But, boys, it's special when you do. Now, your life and your uniqueness is 100 billion times winning the lottery.
Starting point is 01:16:58 Now, that's something truly special and unique. That's a really awesome way to think about it. A unique human being created by you is more astronomically at odds than winning the lottery. Exactly. And I want to mention this because I'd be remiss not to correct myself maybe by being pedantic here. But when I mentioned parents creating life or souls, I mean you are collaborating with God in that creative process. It's really interesting. So I've been around the block on this issue. I get asked a lot about gay adoption.
Starting point is 01:17:30 I think there's a lot. I'm not weirded out by gays. I'm not freaked out by them. But what I think is I had this experience with someone that my family knows where they got married as a lesbian couple and they end up getting pregnant. They get a sperm donor. The one has it. And when the baby's born, the other spouse is like, well, that that's not my baby. That doesn't look like me. It wasn't my egg. I didn't I didn't birth it. And so they did another thing where, like, they had an egg from the other spouse that didn't have the baby implanted into the other mother.
Starting point is 01:18:10 And then they had it. But they would fight over which kid was cuter. Right? And stuff like that. And it's like, I can't do that with my wife. I mean, we'll do it, like, tongue in cheek. Like, oh, he's such a little asshole. Like, you know, he looks like his father.
Starting point is 01:18:28 But like I can't – my kids – my wife and I's kids, they're actually 50% both of us. And they're either like – they might look like her or look like me, but they're still made by us. And so there's like this intrinsic unity with the family and when you have kids and you're married and, you know, making new human life. I was reading something and it said it was like a meme on Reddit or whatever, but they were like, why do you want to have kids? And the person said, because if I don't, I would be the first life form through billions of years of procreation not to have a child. And I was like, that's kind of scary if you think about it. Like every single ancestor that you have had a child. Yep.
Starting point is 01:19:10 Every single one of them had a child. Yeah. And if you don't, that's the end of that chain, of that history, of that whatever you want to call it. Something massive and profound and bigger than you ends if you do not have a child. Yeah, well, and I think there are some people who are not called to have children, and that's fine. It's okay for that lineage to end with you. But if you are called to have children, that is a very beautiful thing. That is a very beautiful thing to do.
Starting point is 01:19:36 And as I'm sort of mentioning earlier, you're collaborating with God in this creative process. And, of course, he creates the soul. But to be a parent and to have a child that you are bringing into the world through his graces and the ability he's given you to do so is such a beautiful and profound thing. And yet as a culture, we don't just have an indifference towards it. We're actually disgusted by it. And, you know, too, you know, I was just mentioning how it's like, you know, having a child is like infinitely like at more at odds than winning the lottery.
Starting point is 01:20:05 The uniqueness and the rarity of that is something truly special. And if you're really concerned about money and you'd rather buy the lottery ticket, just think about this. Have the kid. Bring him to Hollywood. And then boom, 18, maybe not even 18 years, maybe you get a child star, then you're rich. There you go. Just put him
Starting point is 01:20:21 to work in LA. Not with what they do in Hollywood. Keep your kid as far away as possible from those people. Something tells me I can tell you where the Hollywood people will stand on this bill. They're going to be like, Tim's right. Bring your kids. No, I was kidding. Do not ever bring your child here. Yeah, Manuel.
Starting point is 01:20:42 The world we're in now is that we have two distinct visions of reality and it's very strange. And this is why I often talk about transhumanism. I don't know if you read a lot into it. an internal identity or anything like that outside of you know ourselves we live in base reality i suppose and then this other faction of people they live in a digital or or you know just a different version of reality i wonder if the internet is helping uh create this sense of separate identity from your body because people now have a way to go on online especially now with vr and create avatars create you know facsimiles or representations of themselves and so whereas for the most of human civilization you were your body i mean now we have people who exist in a different space where they engage in commerce and communications but they create a different version of themselves for these spaces.
Starting point is 01:21:49 Even different voices, if they end up speaking, voice changers or otherwise, cartoon versions of themselves. What happens then when those people enter the metaverse? They will create whatever version of themselves they want. But for those of us that just maintain base reality, live here and carry on, we're going to have families, we're going to have kids, and we're just going to be like, I'm just some dude here in blue jeans. I mean, we already see it very much so that people don't want to live in base reality. And what they're trying to do is
Starting point is 01:22:10 take their own mental reality, their subjective experience of what the world is and what their place should be in it rather than what their place actually is, what they think it should be. And then they're trying to transform their bodies in accordance with that. That's the entirety of the transgender movement. Truth be told, I would love virtual
Starting point is 01:22:25 virtual reality skyrim is so much fun you know when the new elder scrolls come out i'm going to put that vr on and i'm going to be firing the bow and arrow at some dragons but the interesting thing to me is that you know when i play these games it's just like first person it's your hands and they're moving around i'm still me i still view myself as me there's there's you know for me i don't go into these video games and think i want to be someone else i just think i want to throw a fireball at a dragon yep but there are some people who go into these spaces specifically to escape and to be something else they go in chat rooms and lie about who they are they go into video games and create avatars specifically to be a different person i wonder if one of the issues we just have is at the root
Starting point is 01:23:03 people aren't taught to love themselves. Yep. Or really how to love anything. Yeah. Right? And there's been this huge rise in VR porn. I did this debate series with Brandy Love. She's an active porn star. And she's actually pretty honest. I think for a porn star, she's pretty great and a moral person, I think.
Starting point is 01:23:24 But the thing is, even she was freaked out by VR porn because she was like, I just think it's a little bit too weird. I think that when it comes to sex, it's really important to have another person and to share that with someone else. And virtual reality really is like people trying to escape reality and it's terrible. I think that's where we're going for sure and that's what and look yeah there is a one of the quotes i love to say on the show you know every so often is google it you know tell me who said this because i was reading a long time ago they said that if humans ever meet aliens we will shake hands not because we overcame nuclear weapons but because we overcame the x. And the point of the article was that
Starting point is 01:24:06 humans are continually chasing after self-satisfying actions. Like, you know, what do we do? We create a massive industry for porn. We create food, sugars, and fats, and desserts. These are the things that just trigger other reward centers in our brain and all that stuff. And so where will people end up? What the, uh, I think at this point, the article is probably outdated, but I would, I would say at this point we're seeing
Starting point is 01:24:35 with the metaverse and everything, most people are going to, they will beg for Neuralink. They will just be like, I don't care who's in charge. I don't care if you can erase my brain. I want to be a magic elf fighting a dragon more than anything. Just get me out of this. And they'll take it. And they'll be dead. There's this weird belief, and transgenderism is the precursor
Starting point is 01:24:58 to transhumanism. I disagree on that one. I think, you know, the issue is we're seeing a whole bunch of identity issues across the board. You've got transracial. You've got otherkin. You've got people. Gnosticism is the root.
Starting point is 01:25:16 But I think ultimately it's just there's a bunch of different trans identity issues that have been affecting us for a long time. Even someone who wants to change their name, they're not happy with who they are. They're not satisfied with it. It starts very, very small seeds. I think for a lot of people, they feel like they're in the wrong body. But it could be for a variety of different ways, you know, like Rachel Dolezal. She's the wrong race. I think it's really Gnosticism, though, that this separation of the soul from the body right like christianity has a totally different understanding
Starting point is 01:25:49 which is that your soul and your body are intricately related and once those two are separated that's called death and so i think you know if i'm an atheist and i hear about neural link and i hear about transgenderism or whatever you're born in the wrong body it actually kind of makes sense. Like, if there is no God and your consciousness can, like, be replicated and put onto a hard drive, like, why not? Like, you can technically have
Starting point is 01:26:14 a copy of you living forever. Are you familiar with Otherkin? Isn't that, like, when you think you're an animal or something? They think they're mystical animals. Yes, yes. That's upsetting. It's not necessarily mystical animals. For a lot of these people, they say they're like owls or whatever, or
Starting point is 01:26:30 wolves, or they'll say they're like part owl, part cat, or things like that. But for some people, they think they're dragons. They think they're wyverns, or however you pronounce it. They think they're mystical creatures that don't even exist. And so that's why I think identity issues are well beyond just transgender.
Starting point is 01:26:47 I think we've been seeing this on the Internet for a long time. People have maybe maybe narcissism or however you want to explain it, separated their internal self from their physical self. That to me, I think, is maybe there's there's there's something within people that, you know, they can they can fathom the concept at some point, but you need some kind of catalyst to make it more pronounced. And I think the internet is that catalyst. An opportunity for people to enter a space where they can exist as something different, at least in facsimile. So right now, you can put on the oculus and i did this a while ago man i'll tell you during lockdown when it first started we were in jersey i went on my deck i put on the oculus and i was on google maps and i was walking around all these different places
Starting point is 01:27:34 here's the crazy thing before we even moved here i went to harper's fair and i like walked around to see what it was like and go into the city and everything like that but then there was also these chat rooms and they're really interesting where you can walk around and you can create a digital character for yourself and i make the joke that people walk around like carrots because there were some people that had like strange like rutabaga body like they wanted to be a rutabaga man and that's and for me i'm kind of just like whenever i play these games i have like a default avatar because I don't care about what this thing is. You know what I mean? Like I'm me. And to me, I'm just playing a video game. But to some people,
Starting point is 01:28:10 they go in and they're like, this is my chance to create something that I would rather be. I suppose the real issue might be people just don't like their lives and they think the grass is always greener. One of the things that really bothers me is when I hear from people, they say, if only I had money, then I'd be able to do thing. Yeah. And I always tell these people like, that's not true at all. Ask anybody who runs a business, having money does not guarantee you the ability to do anything. Some people are like, I wish I could start a successful YouTube channel, but I just don't have the anything. Some people are like, I wish I could start a successful YouTube channel, but I just don't have the money.
Starting point is 01:28:45 And I'm like, dude, I had a phone. All I had was a cell phone when I started it. And then when I started doing commentary, it was just a GoPro. And they're like, well, I don't even have a GoPro. But you have a phone, dude. I know you have a phone. Not everybody does.
Starting point is 01:28:56 Fair point. So you can get cheap phones with cameras on it and you can start somewhere. You can get a webcam for 15 bucks. I understand there's a base level. You need a computer or something. A phone can do all of it, really. But people would always say to me,
Starting point is 01:29:09 with all of these resources at their fingertips, if only I had money. People seem to think, if only I was X, then I would finally be happy. And I'm just like, if you're not happy with yourself, you're not going to find it chasing after some mythical dragon beast. truth be told, video games are fun.
Starting point is 01:29:30 If I – when I play the – when I use the Oculus, I don't really – it's fun. It's going to be really fun when they create – when they have better VR with haptic feedback. I don't know if I'd ever want to get Neuralink, but it is tempting to be able to play video games where you can actually experience flight and stuff like that. But maybe the issue is there's too many people who are more weak-willed and would rather live in the fake reality where they can feel good all the time and they would wither away and die if they did. Yeah, I have a real aversion to it all i i really think that like anytime you start to mess with your brain where like the idea that someone could upload thoughts to your brain or download your thoughts like that's kind of freaky to me and that's at the core of neural like and if you look i have a tesla i love it it's it's a great car goes zero to 60 in three seconds i don't care about the environment if it didn't go
Starting point is 01:30:20 through zero to 60 in three seconds i wouldn't have it. But if you look at this ecosystem that Elon Musk is setting up, right, with Neuralink, SpaceX, Starlink, Tesla, like it's a whole – and the cell phone. Is that part of Starlink? His cell phone? His cell phone? He's coming out with a satellite phone that's hooked up to Starlink. So he'll have a whole ecosystem.
Starting point is 01:30:43 And we don't even know. Does he have a payment processing system? I mean, I know he helped found PayPal, but that is pretty intense. Like, you would put one guy, and then, I don't know. And then what's the other question? Like, if he gets to Mars, is that his now? I think that'd be pretty cool. Yeah, I think it'd be pretty cool.
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Starting point is 01:31:13 what you guys have to say. Sean Hirschboek says, Hey guys, remember when Alec Baldwin killed a woman? Oh, yep. I do remember when he killed a woman. Yeah. You guys remember when alec baldwin yeah that was what's going on with that i don't know where's that court case yeah why hasn't he been arrested yeah right yep green blue says ian is probably sick from that raw aloe drink
Starting point is 01:31:36 is that yeah he was drinking some like aloe vera thing the other day yeah he said it was really bitter yeah huh yeah i don't know all right mike raider says theory joe biden is not releasing the migs to ukraine because if he does putin releases blackmail dirt on hunter and the big guy receiving payment from the first lady of moscow what's the likelihood man i remember that narrative when they were like what does putin have on trump and now we're really coming into what does putin Putin have on Biden? Isn't it all out there? A lot of it's out there. I mean, truth be told, this is more plausible.
Starting point is 01:32:09 What does Putin have on Biden? That is definitely true. All those financial dealings, we only scratched the surface on that. No, Biden's just a good guy. What are you guys talking about? Hunter Biden. Man. Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:32:25 Hairy legs. Murph Try says, Tim, just wanted to let people know that there is a red flag law proposed for Kentucky, SB278, and that 2A loving Kentuckians should contact their state reps to let their voice be heard. Definitely.
Starting point is 01:32:42 Yeah. Alright. Vasht says, are you kidding, Tim? hollywood still thinks he's innocent in reference to jesse smollett getting work in hollywood that's fair point yeah they're gonna they're gonna put him on a reality show and it's gonna make money i mean we we joked that we should do a short film called the jesse smollett story where we reenact cinematically like what happened and hire jesseie to do it. And it's funny because we joke because we know having Jussie in it would make money. It would get clicks.
Starting point is 01:33:11 Yeah. And then I'm thinking about it. I'm like, they've got to be thinking the same thing. Yep. You don't got to like the guy, but you want to watch him. And you want to make money. Yeah. Correct.
Starting point is 01:33:19 Yeah. Would you watch the Jussie Smollett story, Seamus? I already know it. But would you watch it? I would. I like to believe I wouldn't, but if it came down to it, there's a chance I might. So the Batman comes out with Robert Pattinson, and I'm like, I don't care to see it, really. And then we ended up going to see it, and I didn't like it. But I'll tell you this.
Starting point is 01:33:42 If Lifetime announced the Jussesse smollett story i would be sitting there with popcorn i'd have chips and soda everybody would be gathered around and we'd be ready to go the moment we're like it's it's starting everyone you know everybody would want to see it yeah wait wait what would a jesse smollett lifetime movie look like it would be like he comes back to town he falls in love no no no it would be the story no but lifetime's the woman's network no but you know what i mean like it's made for tv movies but it'd be funny to have like a women's movie about jesse it would be like the week leading up to the attack yeah yeah and then it would be like the cops would all be like we're gonna frame him here it's the dramatic
Starting point is 01:34:23 they're like planting evidence he's like i'm being set up don't you see it i gotta i gotta i'm gonna warn the this isn't like a major spoiler uh i'll warn the audience though uh if you want to know our opinion on the the batman film um i mean i'm only speaking for myself here but it's uh the arc is that batman learns to use his platform responsibly that was the story i thought so because at the end when he's talking again spoilers at the end when he's talking to the villains they go i am vengeance which is what he said and he's been so irresponsible with his platform and what he's been doing in public and he has to channel his celebrity in a productive way it's when uh and again spoilers
Starting point is 01:35:05 for those who haven't seen spoilers so i'm gonna wait a few seconds after i say spoilers and now i'm gonna say it so earmuffs it's when uh cat woman says to batman because she doesn't know he's bruce wayne that bruce wayne is just another like white privilege that's a big part well that's my that's exact that works into my point though like he has to question it he has to use his platform responsibly he's just a rich white male and he's never thought about how his influence affects people. I wouldn't say that the Batman is insanely woke, but it is. Because white privilege is a psychotic manipulation and lie. It's true.
Starting point is 01:35:39 So as soon as they entertain it as a concept in a film, as if it's a true thing that exists, you're dealing with cultish propaganda. Let me explain to everybody. Majority privilege exists. Attractiveness privilege exists. Age, youth privilege exists. There's a lot of biases that people have. And the reason why I say white privilege is a lie is that white privilege only exists in a country with a majority white population.
Starting point is 01:36:06 And try going to other countries and they'll just be like, they have a word for you. They have a special word for you in many countries referencing you as a foreign white person. White privilege extends only as far as the cash in your pockets and the cash of these countries. So it's, you know, how about we just remove race from it? It's wealth privilege, which is basically everything. Class privilege. Yep. All right.
Starting point is 01:36:33 Let's see what we got here. Heavy Duty says, anybody going to talk about how us lower class citizens are being cheated out of our tax returns by the IRS, finding mistakes on our returns? Yep. That's how it goes, man. Everybody knows, man. The poor stay poor, the rich get rich. That's how it goes, man. Everybody knows, man.
Starting point is 01:36:47 The poor stay poor, the rich get rich. That's how it goes. Everybody knows. All right. Jacob Siebert says, Hey, Tim and cast, I would suggest getting Nigerian dwarf goats because they're a lot easier to handle.
Starting point is 01:36:59 I would also suggest a herd dog like a blue heeler and some other large breed to scare coyotes. My personal experience. Luke Rosick was on the show the other day and we were talking about goats. He said full-size goats, what do you get, like a gallon of milk per day? Yeah. And he's like, if you want to drink milk, then get it. And I'm like, I don't know if I want to drink that much milk, man.
Starting point is 01:37:19 I feel like I will. And he said. I'll help you out, bro. Get big and strong. Well, he was saying the dwarf goats have like 6% milk fat, which is great for cheese, but that might make you fat. And I'm like, considering how many people we have, I think making cheese is the right way to go.
Starting point is 01:37:32 I don't know how to make cheese. Also, if it hits the fan, getting fat off the food you have is not the worst problem to have. Well, I'm excited for the stuff we're building. I thought you were going to say I'm excited for it to hit the fan. I was like, wow. Maybe. I thought you were going to say I'm excited for it to hit the fan I was like wow The good news is I think the patio
Starting point is 01:37:48 That the truck drove over the other day We can just clean it off So we were worried because they just laid the epoxy And then pressing dirt into it Would push it into the glue and you'd have to sand it off But it looks like For now we're not entirely sure Some of it has come off
Starting point is 01:38:03 But not in the deepest area. So otherwise, they've got to stay on the patio. It's going to be a disaster. It's going to suck. Yeah, if you want a full-size goat, my family used to have French alpine goats, which were really good, really solid, adorable babies, and a lot of milk. Milk. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:17 I mean, what about a cow? I like cow milk. Oh, yeah, cows are awesome. How many gallons of this produce a day? I'm not sure. I assume they're a lot more difficult to maintain. But then what do you do with the baby cow? You've got to get the cow pregnant.
Starting point is 01:38:28 So do you ask some dude to bring his bull over? I think that's got to be it. You put up a sign saying, like, cow seeking bull. Call this number. It's like a dating app. I guess. Or do you bring your cow to the bull, and the bull gets down to it, and then you bring the cow back, and then you get milk?
Starting point is 01:38:44 I'm sure they have ways to do it. I'm hearing from Google.com, the website, that most dairy cows are milked two to three times per day. On average, a cow will produce six to seven gallons of milk per day. Whoa, whoa, one cow will make six to seven gallons per
Starting point is 01:39:00 day? Yeah, yep, that's what I'm reading. Now this is from Google. It's like goats a little better. Oh, this is. So here's the second result. So I'm getting even deeper into my investigative research. It says milk production for cow is more than doubled in the last 40 years. In the U.S., the average dairy cow produces more than 7.5 gallons of milk per day.
Starting point is 01:39:18 That's crazy. Oh, snap. Wow. Goats are a good compromise. Yeah. All right. R. Valera says, if the U.S. immediately started on an accelerated program to build nuclear power plants
Starting point is 01:39:27 with the aim of providing 25% of the country's power, what are your thoughts on the economic effects? Can we get free of Saudi oil? Yes, I certainly think so, and we should. I'm a big fan of nuclear power, especially the newer generations. What do you think about nuclear? I love it.
Starting point is 01:39:42 I mean, look, I've seen Chernobyl. I mean, it's incredible what happened there. But that was all basically corruption. Nuclear power. Today, I don't think we built a new nuclear power plant in America since like the 70s, right? Am I misremembering that? That sounds right, unfortunately. We've got such better technology now than in the 70s.
Starting point is 01:40:00 And we haven't really had any major catastrophes here in America. Yeah. Like Three Mile Island, I think. No deaths. Yeah, no deaths. Nothing really Chernobyl-y. the 70s and we haven't really had any major catastrophes here in america yeah um like three mile island i know no deaths yeah no deaths nothing really nothing chernobyl yeah all right sean l says former army intel collector here most news outlets are very wrong read the military might of russia china versus the u.s they overstate their capabilities and understate ours most people have no idea how strong we are. Nukes are the issue.
Starting point is 01:40:27 I agree. I think the U.S. is strong, and I think there's probably a lot of weapons the U.S. has that we don't know about. I also think the U.S. is split between woke cultists and regular people, and that's going to cause very serious problems. I think that's going to cause very serious problems on the battlefield if you end up with, you know, maybe not. maybe people who know better than i are going to be alive we don't you know you don't have time to think about that it's just you know fight and survive and get
Starting point is 01:40:52 the mission done but i think when people start seeing the world completely differently from each other it'll cause very serious problems carrie my girl says justice Jussie is the new show. LOL. That's great. Justice with Jussie. Let's do it. Yeah. Look, Seamus, there are so many cartoon opportunities for you on this one.
Starting point is 01:41:14 I know. I know. Look, it's about narrowing down what I'm going to focus on. What's a good conspiracy film? Like a whodunit. You have like a Jussie Smollett whodunit where he's trying to figure out who framed him. Who actually framed him?
Starting point is 01:41:27 Yeah. Who framed Jesse Smollett? No, it's a really good question. It's a really good question. We may never find the real hoaxer. I don't know. He's in the room with us right now.
Starting point is 01:41:37 Yeah. It was Jim. Very angry citizen says couldn't take living in Philadelphia anymore. Crime is up. Quality of life is down. Filth everywhere. As everywhere as of 11 40 41 a.m today i'm a west virginia resident just outside of morgantown sent lids my resume god bless you all congratulations on escaping philadelphia we were
Starting point is 01:41:56 on the other side of the river and it was just brutal man yeah these cities have fallen apart yep javi j says smollett out on appeal, but Cain Velasquez was denied bail. What an upside down timeline we are living in. Who is that? I don't know who that is. He is the guy who went out and took revenge on the person who assaulted his child. Yes, the former MMA fighter. Yep.
Starting point is 01:42:22 Yep. Joshua Bro says Jussie is out on bail pending the appeal is it quite possible the appellate judge issued a harsher sentence when he is found guilty again the system wants people to shut up and take it i bet this is a bad idea for jesse i think jesse is an egomaniac sociopath and that the reason he was screaming i'm not suicidal was because he was planning on killing himself so they had to restrain him to a bed with straps because he would want to harm himself to create a legacy of that
Starting point is 01:42:49 it was a conspiracy the whole time. Nobody will believe it. He's an egomaniac and a sociopath, and he's also really dumb. Really dumb. Really dumb. Mitzo Plick says, Taco Bell is to Mexican food what strawberry candy is to eating an actual strawberry yeah i
Starting point is 01:43:07 there was like a lawsuit recently i read about where some guy sued pop tarts or something how dare he because he was like it says strawberry but there's no strawberries in it what and the judge said something like i don't think any reasonable person would look at what's on the box and assume it's a strawberry. That's great. Yeah. Well, it might not be real strawberry, but sometimes it's just what you want. I mean, to be fair,
Starting point is 01:43:29 it does literally say the word strawberry. True. It does. Wait, there are actually strawberry preserves in it? I don't... I think there probably
Starting point is 01:43:38 is some. Strawberry flavored. I don't know. I don't know. We can look it up. I'm curious. Ian Crossland with a super chat
Starting point is 01:43:43 saying, Seamus, please make O'Donald's in Freedom Tunes and make the O'Donald's worker an ethnic Irish guy. I don't know. He said ethical Irish guy. Oh, no such thing. Oh, Lydia.
Starting point is 01:43:55 I can't believe that you would beat me to it. I missed my chance. I was pretty good, right? Is that what you were going to say? Yeah, I mean, she beat me to it. She beat me to it. I was actually deciding whether or not I would malign an entire group of people based on their ethnicity. But before I could make that decision, Lydia did it.
Starting point is 01:44:11 You're welcome. Well, but Lydia's Irish, right? Yeah, I am. So it's allowed. Oh, yeah. I knew there was a reason I didn't trust her. So Ian is asking about O'Donnell's, which harkens back to McDonald's, which, I mean, it's possible that this particular McDonald's family
Starting point is 01:44:26 was Scottish, but MC is Irish, as the super chat above testifies from Ryan MC Cafferty. Mick Cafferty. Look at that. Mick is Irish. Don't trust an Irish man. Would you get sued if you made a burger place called O'Donnell's? Because I totally
Starting point is 01:44:42 want to do it now. Yeah, that's an interesting question. It just depends on what the logo looks like. It'll be a golden O. W. Yeah. A big O. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:44:53 I almost want to do it just because it'd be funny. It would be really funny. Let's do it. Or at least get the logo done. Yeah. What can we do? Colonel Papa O'Donald's? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:04 Just mix all of it. I like it. I tell Papa O'Donald's. Yeah. It just makes all the... I like it. I tell you, you know what my idea for a restaurant is? So you know when you go to Panda Express, you like walk up and you're in line and they have all... You go there a lot, don't you? No, I don't at all. So, but you know how you go in and you're in line like at Chipotle, you go in line and
Starting point is 01:45:17 they have all the food? Yeah. My idea for a restaurant is they have... It's like Panda Express because they have like the different kinds of food, the orange chicken or spicy beef or whatever they have, it's like Panda Express because they have like the different kinds of food, the orange chicken or spicy beef or whatever they have. But this place has
Starting point is 01:45:28 orange chicken, chicken tikka masala and pad thai. Ooh. So you go there and they have those three things and then maybe other sides because that,
Starting point is 01:45:37 because those I think were like the top three Grubhub ordered items or something. So I was like, do one restaurant that serves those three things and you and all your friends could go there and you
Starting point is 01:45:46 walk up and you're like, I'll do the orange chicken. They put it in the thing and you get rice and all of it's served with rice anyway. So it's like, there you go, man. I think I'd rather go for chicken tikka masala to be honest. That's what I'm all about. That's my idea for a restaurant. Although I really, really would love to have like a little fast food burger joint.
Starting point is 01:46:02 Just like maybe like a little sit down place. We'd do the quick burgers and, you know, some fries. Yeah, O'Donald's. O'Donald's. Yeah. McPool's. McPool's. You'd definitely get sued if you did that,
Starting point is 01:46:12 if you put MC in front of your name like that probably. So here's the question. What if your last name was actually McDonald's and you wanted to open a restaurant? I don't think you could. Yeah. Yeah, to be honest. It's pretty messed up.
Starting point is 01:46:21 There's a hot dog place in Chicago I used to go to called Donald's, though. Yeah, yes. Yeah. We used to go there when we were in the city. Oh, yeah. You're familiar with Donald's. Delicious. Yeah, it is a really good place, to be honest. There's a hot dog place in Chicago I used to go to called Donald's though. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. We used to go there when we were in the city. Oh yeah. You're familiar with Donald's. Delicious.
Starting point is 01:46:27 Delicious. Yeah. It is a really good place to be honest. All right. Ken says Russian ruble is up almost 54%. So much for the economic warfare.
Starting point is 01:46:35 Bet you won't hear that in the mainstream media. Russia has a massive stockpile of gold. World abandoning USD as a reserve currency. Yep. Why would they do that?
Starting point is 01:46:44 Buy what you gotta buy now before it's too late. Yep. Yeah. All right. Let's grab some more. Padre Mortales says, remember that by the Mexicans defeating the French, it helped prevent the French from helping the Confederacy, therefore helping the Union win the Civil War. Good holiday to celebrate in the U.S.
Starting point is 01:47:02 Oh, yeah. Cinco de Mayo. That's right. It's a great holiday. Roberto Lara says I was going to check Occupy Democrats if they're praising Jussie. Guess they blocked me on Facebook and Twitter. Wow. So welcoming. Real facts. So honest.
Starting point is 01:47:14 Yeah. It blocks a lot of people I guess. Unspecial Noob says Tim Timmy Timothy please oh please name the next rooster of Chicken City Dwayne the Cock Johnson. Oh my god. That's a good one. I saw one earlier.
Starting point is 01:47:29 I was watching the chicken feed over there and someone said Cluck Norris. Oh I like that too. I thought that was pretty good. The original idea we had was that all of our original chickens have regular names and their last names are bird puns.
Starting point is 01:47:47 So we've got Sarah Avenberg. We have Roberto Beaks. And he's the father of all of the babies. So basically every new baby is a Beaks, part of the Beaks family. So Roberto Jr. Beaks. Then we have Vanessa Peckingham. Margaret Hatcher. That was brilliant.
Starting point is 01:48:02 I liked that one. That was handy, I'm pretty sure. I'm sure it was. That's genius. That's very good. That was very good. Margaret Hatcher. That was brilliant. I like that one. That was handy, I'm pretty sure. I'm sure it was. That's genius. That's very good. That was very good. Margaret Hatcher. That was brilliant.
Starting point is 01:48:09 And Carol Cluck. One of my favorites is though is Katerina Kuritsa. Yeah. I like that. Russian for bird? Russian for chicken. Ah, gotcha. Yeah, the name is Catherine Chicken.
Starting point is 01:48:21 That's cute. We just literally called her chicken. I think it's great. Yeah, no, it's very good. Yeah. Look at words. Yeah. That's cute. We just literally called her Chicken. I think it's great. Yeah, no, it's very good. Roberto Pollo. Look at words. That's right. And now we have,
Starting point is 01:48:28 I think downstairs right now, 24 babies. There's a lot. So many. Yeah, because we also had some delivered. And then we've got 34 incubating.
Starting point is 01:48:39 So out of the 22 incubated, we did the first incubation. Only 12 actually made it. Some of them appear to not be fertilized, and one of them stopped developing halfway through. Yeah. My wife and I, to keep our kids busy during COVID, and also we were kind of worried the world was going to fall apart. We got a bunch of chickens, and it's devastating. We did, I think, we hatched six, and only three came.
Starting point is 01:49:03 Oh, man. Oh, really? And it was just devastating because you just wait and wait and wait it's a fun fun little hobby though you know the sad thing is though you you really should not expect to have chickens and treat them like pets that you care about to be honest no because we've got uh you know we we care about our chickens we love our chickens but the uh you can't really have a bunch of girl and boy chickens you can't do it it. So we have Roberto and Roberto Jr., and they have to be retired off to the boys' dormitory, which means they're going to go off to other property, and they're going to live with all the boys
Starting point is 01:49:31 because you really just can't have all these babies that are being born. The boys, once they get to a certain age, off to the boys' dorm. Yeah. Because all the roosters can live together. I am really, really excited for when we unleash, like, 50 fully grown roosters onto the property to just like graze. And I'm wondering what predators would think because roosters are – They're mean. Yeah, and a fox could take one rooster for sure, but not 50.
Starting point is 01:49:55 Not 50. No, no, no. That fox is dead. Yep. Just imagine the fox is like crawling through the tall grass seeing a rooster. He thinks it's all hens. He doesn't know. He's going to go get it.
Starting point is 01:50:04 Well, he just sees the one rooster, and he's like, I'm going to eat this fowl. And then all of a sudden, he jumps for it, and you just hear all this insane... And they all just run at it, and they're jump-kicking it and scratching it and pecking it. And then the roosters eat the fox.
Starting point is 01:50:19 We need a chicken cartoon series. Like a chicken cartoon series. We have one, I think. Chicken? Yeah, the Kent one? Actually, they went to this guy named Kent. Oh, I know.
Starting point is 01:50:31 It's an anime. No, Kent's pretty cool. It's so funny. Kent's pretty cool. We love Kent. Yeah, so we do like, we have cartoons in our vlog periodically,
Starting point is 01:50:40 and some of them are just like, you know, the chickens doing chicken stuff. Yep. They're awesome. JC says, read No Winter Lasts Forever, a vigilante thriller about mass shootings by Jonathan Epps. Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 01:50:54 CD says, hello from Scotland. Can confirm MacDonald is Scottish and McDonald is Irish. Seamus, what are your thoughts on the statements of Pope Francis today and the consecration of Russia and Ukraine on March 25th? That's a good question. So I heard about the consecration of Russia and Ukraine on March 25th? That's a good question. So I heard about the consecration of Russia and Ukraine on March 25th. What does that mean? That's very beautiful.
Starting point is 01:51:10 So he's going to consecrate Russia and consecrate Ukraine. I can't really give any more details than that. I didn't really hear his statement from today. You may have. You're also Catholic. I didn't hear the statement, but there's something big about consecrating russia to ukraine it's all you're related i'm sorry consecrating russia to
Starting point is 01:51:31 god and it's all related like the fatima appearances and um yeah basically uh mary told those three little kids that saw her that if uh that the po or the church needed to uh consecrate russia to god and if he didn't that russia would spread her arrows or errors all throughout the world and it never happened yeah it's interesting so this is interesting because this is a little beyond my pay grade but there's discussion over whether russia was consecrated under john paul ii because there was a consecration of the world that we were sort of told was a consecration of russia but it's argued that to consecrate something is to set it aside so yeah but it so that that's part of what does it mean is a special thing for russia it's good for russia or what it's like isn't it to let me double check but i believe it's the consecrate
Starting point is 01:52:17 russia to mary's immaculate uh heart yeah it's basically saying like i don't even know what consecrate it's kind of like a better blessing. It's like a blessing and a dedication. Like, you are now going to be serving God. Well, all right, then. All right, Alex says, Tim, I've had enough. Banning Elote is the last straw. Cancel Chicago.
Starting point is 01:52:39 Yeah, we were pissed. We would go to Vidim Park. That's where we would skate. The tennis court, we'd skate in there. And then this, like, working class working class dude you know probably an immigrant or something he's coming up with a hard honest day's work and he says young young friends i have come to bring you delicious corn with mayonnaise on it and we were we would run up and we'd be like throwing money at him because it's good it's really good and and it was a service provided
Starting point is 01:53:04 to us that we were that we appreciated and then one day they stopped shut up they also had these little like um orange wheel looking things i don't know what they're made of and they had uh yeah so they had like different kind of snacks i think they might have pork rinds too yeah it's like orange crunchy things that look like wheels that's good and like we would get corn i'm hungry some people would just go for the corn in the cob yeah and then they'd put all the stuff on it, and you'd just eat it. That's my preferred. Yeah, put it in the cob. And it's crazy to me that they took that away from us.
Starting point is 01:53:33 You know what started happening then? Ice cream trucks started coming. Oh. So we went from eating corn. Good for you. To ice cream. Better for you. Man.
Starting point is 01:53:42 Man, that ice cream guy was crazy, though. True story. The ice cream guy who would come to the park didn't know what money was. Totally serious. Yeah, a weird thing happened where someone, it was like a dollar for an ice cream cone. Someone went up to him and was like, I only got
Starting point is 01:53:55 80 cents. Is that enough? And the guy was like, he didn't speak English. He was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the kid put the money in his hand. He was like, oh, thank you. And then he went and told everybody like, I just gave him 80 cents. He said it was okay. And so people were like, okay. So then people went up like, how about 50 cents? And he was like, yeah, yeah then he went told everybody like i just gave him 80 cents that was okay and so people were like okay so then people went up like how about 50 cents and he was like yeah and he would take it give him the cone and we were like and then one day people realized like i'm gonna offer him something else and someone gave him like a bike peg they walked up and they had it in their hand like they found it in the trash and they were
Starting point is 01:54:19 like here and they put in his hand and he gave him an ice cream cone and then somebody people were like what so then people would give him hands of like handfuls of wood chips they would give him like shattered bits of plastic and he would accept it true story i serious it was weird and then one day he showed up and someone tried giving him wood chips from the playground and he was like no and then inside the machine was a dollar taped to like the, and he would look at it and point at it. He got smart. Yeah, it was really weird. It was really, really weird.
Starting point is 01:54:49 Yeah, Southside. That is very odd. I don't know. Strange stories, man. Strange stories. All right, let's see. Laura T. says, please cover the DA dropping the charges against the lefty security guard, Matthew Dallof, who shot Lee Keltner.
Starting point is 01:55:02 What's that about? I don't know what that's about. I don't know what that's about. Yeah, no idea. We'll have to look into it, I suppose. Alright. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim, quote, the two most important days in life are the day you were born and the day you
Starting point is 01:55:16 discover the reason why. Mark Twain. Any thoughts on that at all? What is it meant to mean? The reason why you were born like your purpose in life yeah something like that i was born to complain on the internet i suppose heck yeah discovered that here we are 36 years old it only took me uh you know 20 some odd years 28 years figured out yep perfect
Starting point is 01:55:40 glycerin go says coming from youren and Emmons podcast about cuties, I'm reminded of the beginning of Brave New World. Do you think we're heading in that direction where taboos are being broken for the sake of it? I feel like there's more taboos than ever. Yeah. I don't know about breaking it for the sake of it. I think people want,
Starting point is 01:55:59 they want to play life on God mode. Like video games. They're tired. It's a big mistake. You ever play, you guys have played video games they're tired and it's a it's a big mistake you ever you ever play you you guys have played video games i imagine of course a little bit not not extensively so you know let's say you're playing fallout 3 one of my favorite games ever well on your playstation you can play the game as defined by the parameters of the game so you find weapons you go on missions you win the game on a computer however you have access
Starting point is 01:56:25 to what's called console commands where you can basically spawn objects cheat you can do whatever you want and after a while of playing the game you're like i would like to do things i can't normally do and have the game be easy so you make yourself invincible or you make yourself bigger or you give yourself infinite weapons but the game becomes boring fast because there is no game when you have access to anything and everything you want it's true so i wonder if what might actually happen is that when people go into the metaverse and they get to experience a virtual world they can do anything they say it's boring well there isn't there a line like that in the original matrix where he says something like the original matrix but the human brain
Starting point is 01:57:04 rejected it. They needed struggle and conflict and strife. Because when it was perfect, people just rejected it. And that's probably it. It's boring. It gets boring. Yeah, I remember when I was a young'un, I discovered debug mode for Sonic the Hedgehog. You just press the controller certain ways, you can create
Starting point is 01:57:20 whatever objects you want, and the game got very boring very quickly. There's nothing to play for. I think a lot of people really want us to open up O'Donnell's. O'Donnell's. Someone said O'Donnell's. Be the change you want to see in the world. Why don't you guys open it up?
Starting point is 01:57:35 I'm going to open a burger shop called Seamus'. You can't do that to me. And the funny thing is, I've got to be honest, Seamus', it will be hard for people to figure out pronounce it it's true because like that seamus is right when i go there i know but it'll be like s-e-a-m-u-s-e-s dude when i was a youngin let me tell you another youngin story i had a i uh was competing in a high school film festival and you know my name's been butchered really bad but i got
Starting point is 01:58:01 the announcer referring to me as seamststress Copland when I won an award. Seamstress Copland. I was like, well, you know what? That's my burden. I had a friend named Sean. S-E-A-N. And we had a substitute teacher who came in, was doing roll call, and she was like, Seen?
Starting point is 01:58:19 And then everyone laughed. He raises his hand. Dude, I knew someone whose name was Sean, or I suppose you could say should have been Sean. It was spelled S-E-A-N, but like he and his family pronounced it seen. What? Really? Yeah, yeah. That's not right.
Starting point is 01:58:33 Not common. Huh. Not common. That must have confused a lot of people, too. That's annoying. Can you imagine? You'd think it's a joke, right? Like, oh, no, actually, it's seen.
Starting point is 01:58:43 Yeah, geez. Dasher says, World War III will be called the Great Oil War if the Saudis switch from selling the oil from U.S. dollars to the Chinese yuan. It will create more chaos than World War II, but only to China. So it's just like they'll still be selling, you know, oil for dollars except to China. That's where it starts. But once that happens, China's currency is instantly stronger and then international investment
Starting point is 01:59:07 can move in for China way more. So the amount of value China will gain from that one move and the amount of value that the U.S. dollar will lose from that one move is massive. So buy it while you can before. It's too late, I suppose.
Starting point is 01:59:23 But I think inflation is on the way. Alright, we'll get one more. Brand Dizzle says, name the restaurant Sea Muses. Sea Muses? Sea Muses. I like that. It'll be Seamus as a mermaid singing a siren song. Yeah, of course. That's what I usually do. Just be natural.
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Starting point is 02:00:01 Terry, you want to shout anything out? Yeah, no. This was a great time. I really enjoyed the conversation. You guys keep me on my toes. And no, I have a bunch of family friends from back home who have been texting me this whole time. So yeah. Right on.
Starting point is 02:00:15 It was great. Cool, man. Yeah, it was awesome having you on. I'm really looking forward to the discussion on the after show. I want to maybe get more into your foundation. Yeah, we'll talk family and stuff. Yeah, I think that's awesome. Also, I want to issue a correction here.
Starting point is 02:00:26 I said this may have been being a little pedantic with myself, and I sort of touched on it, but with the creation of souls, I was discussing about sex is procreative and creating souls, of course. As Catholics, we believe God creates souls, so I don't want to mislead people about the teaching there. I want to make this point. You guys should definitely check out Freedom Tunes. They're going to be releasing a cartoon tomorrow.
Starting point is 02:00:43 I'm going to describe it very dryly, but it's just basically on how World War II nostalgia is constantly being thrown at us over the years to encourage us to fight new wars, and we continually fall for it for whatever reason. I hope we don't this time. Thank you very much for watching, and we'll see you on the after show.
Starting point is 02:00:59 Very cool. I saw a suggestion in the chat for Jesse Pullet for one of the chickens, which I think is a great name please keep sending me all your suggestions you guys can send me your suggestions for chicken names over on twitter at sarah patchlets and on mines.com as well i'd feel bad for that chicken i can't do that jesse pullett it's adorable though i like it all right everybody we will see you over at timcast.com thanks for hanging out bye guys

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