Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #503 - "Ok Groomer" Sparks Weird Establishment Defense Of Grooming w/ Will Chamberlain
Episode Date: April 7, 2022Tim, Ian, Seamus of FreedomToons, and Lydia host lawyer and senior counsel at the Internet Accountability Project Will Chamberlain to discuss why Republicans oppose grooming, the new Texan parental ri...ghts bill, the Utah governor using pronouns and 'Latinx' in zoom calls, the Californian town planning to give UBI to trans and nonbinary residents, the Republican sweep coming in the election, as predicted by Chris Hayes, and the looming food shortages and skyrocketing food prices facing the US. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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In what may be one of the strangest articles I have ever seen in relation to the culture war,
The Week is asking why Republicans are so concerned about grooming.
And I don't, I think maybe they're trying to make a semantic argument,
like why are Republicans concerned about this greater concept,
but it shows the naivete, ignorance, or devious nature that is behind the defense of the parental rights,
I'm sorry, the defense or the protests against, I should say, the parental rights and education bill.
There's a reason why Republicans don't like grooming because they like their kids.
You know, they love their children and they don't want predators coming after them.
And now we have all of these articles coming out from the left, from establishment media defending what is defending these ridiculous ideas like having adults have
secret conversations with children about sexual things and it's it's just really strange how
they're they have no choice i suppose but to come out overtly in support of these ideas because
they falsely smeared the bill. They need this kind of,
they need teachers to have the ability to separate children from their parents for their ideology,
but it puts them in a serious bind when the subject matter is, hey, don't groom,
which means parents have a right to know, and now they're forced to defend this bill.
I think Republicans have principally gone after the issue. I don't believe there was an ulterior motive. I don't
believe there's a secret definition of what grooming means. Unlike the left that redefined
white supremacy, fascism, and racism, for the most part, Republicans legitimately mean grooming when
they say anti-grooming. But of course, the left likes to redefine language. This may be one of
the most successful culture war campaigns because regular parents understand what's happening to their kids, which is why we saw this election in Virginia.
We saw Loudoun County scandal.
We see a Republican win because these parents don't like what's happening in these schools
to their children, and they don't want it kept a secret from them.
That's what's happening.
So we have a whole bunch of articles about this because now we've got Texas making a
big push for parental rights and education.
I'm hearing people mention Louisiana. We've got Ohio doing
the same thing. We'll talk about that. We've also got a very funny story. We'll talk about
more outrage over Elon Musk over at Twitter. There is something going on in California with a bill
that would prevent prosecution, criminal or civil penalties against a person if something happens that results in a perinatal
death. So what pro-lifers are saying is California is basically legalizing post-birth abortion.
Now, there was an amendment made to the bill, so we'll break down what's really happening. And it
is kind of alarming what they're proposing. It's not the worst case scenario many people on the
right are saying, but it is still really bad.
So we'll get into all that.
Plus, we've got polls coming in.
Democrats, it's looking really, really bad.
Even Chris Hayes is issuing a dire warning about what we can expect in the November midterms.
Yeah.
Yeah, the polls are so good they're preparing for Russian interference.
That's right.
That's right.
Joining us today is Will Chamberlain.
Good to be with you.
Senior counsel at the Internet Accountability Project and the Article 3 Project.
And always happy to be here.
Right on.
Yeah, great to have you, man.
Seamus is here.
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Ian Crossland, the favorite devil's advocate.
I was going to try and take a devil's advocate position on this grooming thing because I
have a feeling people in this room kind of are in agreement
about how cruel and insane it might be, but I don't think I can.
It seems too Soviet to me to get on board with it.
Ian's like, how can I support what they're saying?
How can I understand?
Not this time.
No, understanding their mentality is the first step, but let's go there.
Well, I am very concerned about their mentality.
I don't think they're coming from a place of good faith,
so we'll read some of those articles and see what they're up to.
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the show if you want to help out. Let's jump into this first story. Behold, one of the most
absurd articles you will ever see from the week. Why are Republicans so concerned about grooming?
I just want to I just want to pause real quick. What a great question. This headline should make it clear to any and everyone that there are two distinct universes that exist in terms of morality.
There is no conservative, post-liberal, libertarian, civil libertarian, whatever, who would question why grooming is bad.
But apparently to the establishment left, to the corporate left, Democrat, whatever, and many leftists who would defend this, they're outright just like, why are you mad about your kids being groomed?
Yeah.
The morality is just – it's parallel realities.
The most charitable possible interpretation you could give to this article is that he's essentially saying that this grooming isn't happening and it's moral hysteria, right?
That seems to be what he delineates in this article.
So, yeah, here's the question.
Why would Republicans be concerned about grooming?
Is it the case that Florida tried to pass or did pass a parental rights and education bill
that said you can't talk to 48-year-olds about sexuality and then tell them don't tell your parents
after you have a conversation with them about sexuality and perverted ideas,
and then the entire media said that that was wrong and we should oppose it?
Oh, wait, it is. So it's perfectly reasonable.
Let's make sure we preface this with there was a bill that was passed in Florida.
It says classroom instruction on orientation and identity is prohibited kindergarten through third grade
or in a manner that is not age appropriate.
It further clarifies that in any instance of treatment given to a child for mental,
medical, or physical reasons, the parents must be informed and the school and its employees can't
encourage children to withhold information and must provide information to parents on certain
issues. The parents have a right to sue. Now, when that happened, what did the establishment
media come out and say? Yo, why do you hate gay people? And I was like, whoa, whoa, wait, hold on a minute.
We're like, hey, we don't like
creepos coming after our kids.
And they're like, you hate gay people.
It's like, that association happened
in your mind.
Yes.
It reminds me of the Kevin Spacey thing
when he was accused of
pedophilia and he was like,
let me admit, I am a gay man.
What?
That's right.
Very bold.
Right?
Very bold.
So this is, I think, you know, they tried what actually was extremely reckless rhetorical
gambit, right?
For Spacey, though, it was just assaulting dudes.
I don't think they were kids.
I think they were like actors.
Teenagers.
Were they underage?
I'm pretty sure.
Yeah, that there was some reports of him trying to seduce underage males.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Oh, that's the case.
Yeah, so that was why it was like, I'm going to admit I'm a gay man was such a joke.
Yeah, like everyone's like, did you do it?
And he goes, I'm gay.
Yeah.
Okay, dude.
Not responsive, bro.
Don't know what that has to do.
So, yeah, right.
So here's what I would say about this article. I'm not interested in trying to give the benefit of the doubt to people who would call all of us fascists or Nazis or white supremacists.
So when they read an article that says, why are Republicans so concerned about grooming?
Do they not realize what they're saying with that headline to the average person?
Does the average person understand they're talking about a semantic debate?
And I'm not going to go ahead and assume that. He actually writes in the article that it's
hard to know how much of this is sincere hysteria and how much is ugly McCarthyist politics. Or how
about this dude is so out of touch. The left is so in favor of grooming. They can't see it as grooming
or being bad. That's what I'm saying. I think this spawns from guidance counseling in high school.
When I went out to high school, it was like, if you're getting abused at home, you can come talk to the guidance counselor.
And in confidentiality, they'll report it to the police for you kind of thing.
So, like, your parents aren't going to destroy you.
And that's why I think this mentality is like, if you think you're trans and you're six, then it's abusive for your parent to tell you it's not mentality.
And so they're trying to do this behind the parent's back
because they don't want the kid to suffer abuse.
But it's not the same thing.
It's not abuse.
Look, these parents are going to be with these children for 79 years.
Well, probably the parents will die before then.
But let's just say average life expectancy,
average 55 to 60 years,
the parents will be with their children their entire lives.
How about that?
The teachers, one year.
One year. So how about if a
five to nine year old says
something, the teacher says, maybe this is
something that's best suited for your parents to
figure out with you because they're going to be with you
for the next decade as you
go through these issues in school.
Your parents will be a constant for the entirety of
your school career or whatever.
We'll only be one year out of the whole, the entirety of it.
And then the kid goes, but I'm afraid to tell my parents.
And then so it spawns from that.
And the kid's like, well, they're afraid.
We can't make them do something they're afraid to do.
And the teacher should say, you should never be scared of your parents.
Yeah, a good teacher would do that.
But if parents are beating their kids, then they should say, we're going to call child services.
Right, a good faith exception sort of ends up swallowing like the normal behavior right and again like the arrogance here of these teachers to be like well
no i should be able to talk about you know instruct these kids on sexual orientation and i should be
able to have secret conversations about their gender identity like no no no no no this is not
your child there's a parent and i think it's not a surprise that all these people are like single or or childless why are i i gotta i gotta go at this semantic argument real quick obviously people
are going to argue on the left that the the article is not suggesting that they don't understand why
grooming is bad they talk about all that stuff in there the the article itself is trying to
separate what grooming means into something else yes that's why it's in quotes what they're trying to do is when when when uh it's it's again i hate saying conservative trying to redefine it you're
right already they're trying to redefine what the word means when we see photos of there's that photo
of that little boy with the adult naked man you remember that one yeah and and and it's like a
drag show and the left was like this is fine and i'm like the dude is buck naked or there's the
the desmond kid who is stripping on stage but that that's just a drag show. I'm like, no, it's not. If
anyone who's ever been to across this country and knows what strip clubs are like, there are
fully clothed strip clubs where the wind can't get naked. There are topless bars and there are
fully nude bars. That means strip clubs actually have exist where the women just take off their clothes
to their under layers, which is exactly what that little boy was doing. They are doing child
stripping and they're like, how's that grooming? When, when conservatives, post-liberals, whatever
this faction is, says we don't want teachers having conversations about sexual concepts to
children. It's just that because you, because this, this is what is being, what they're pushing
for when they then come out and say, what could they possibly mean by grooming?
Yeah. So, no, they're lying. It's interesting.
They kind of answer their own question here. And I want to make another point first on this whole point about not being sure how much is sincere hysteria and how much is ugly McCarthy's politics.
That's rich coming from a member of the party which spent years calling us Russian agents for disagreeing with them.
But they still do.
So in this article, he says that this is dishonest because most Americans will hear the term, referring to groomer,
and understand it to mean something much more violent than, quote,
encouraging kids to question their sexuality in the church, unquote.
Here's the thing.
If you ask most Americans how they would label an adult encouraging a child to question their sexuality and then telling their child not to speak to their parents about the conversation, they would label that grooming.
It is a completely fair term.
In fact, it is the most accurate possible term to use in that situation.
You ever watch Law and Order SVU?
Yes.
In the criminal justice system.
That's right.
And there are many episodes where there will be like a child victim and they'll be like,
did anyone tell you not to talk to
your parents? Did anyone tell you? You won't
get in trouble if you tell us. Because
groomers go to kids and say, don't tell
your parents I told you this. Yeah, if there's a 16-year-old
that comes up to your kid on the sidewalk and tells them,
you'd probably see people go
irate. But if it's a teacher now all of a sudden
there's an argument that it's okay if it's a
teacher doing it and not a 16-year-old neighborhood bully like weirdo coming up and doing it on the
street what's the freaking difference man like stay mad you know i again right you know the fact
that there's conservatives who finally we have like this rhetorically very potent like description
grooming and yeah i mean i do think it create has it there's a connotation to the extent this
article is correct i think there is a connotation of, like, sexual predation in it.
But that's not the only – that narrow definition is not the only thing that grooming means.
It encompasses all those issues.
But the idea of grooming is you start slow.
That's the point.
But the issue with this bill in Florida is that when – it's literal grooming.
It's not conspiracy.
And what they're trying to do now is this guy even says, you know, it's QAnon.
And then they try saying, like, oh, here we go. know, it's QAnon. And then they try saying like, oh, here we go.
The Republicans are all QAnon.
And it's like, why?
And they're like, Republicans are accusing Democrats of being pedophiles.
And it's like when, well, hold on there a minute.
When someone comes out and is like, I would prefer it if the teachers didn't have conversations with children about sexual issues and then tell them to keep it a secret?
And they go, yo, why do you hate gay people?
I'm just like, first of all, what?
And why are you defending that?
Yeah.
In the literal definition.
You know what?
It's just very, very simple.
The left redefines words.
And what they're trying to do right here is they're trying to take the word grooming, which is what is happening,
and they're trying to take this one piece and move it out and move the goalpost a little bit.
Like, oh, no, no, no, this isn't really grooming. Republicans are lying because technically,
if someone's having secret sexual conversations with children, that doesn't count because we're
talking about LGBTQIA stuff. I mean, this is but this is something they always do, right? When it's
an epithet that applies to their ideological adversaries,
we're going to broaden the definition so that it encompasses their behavior.
When it's a definition that applies to our ideological allies,
we're going to narrow the definition so it doesn't apply.
I mean, racism is the classic example.
The redefinition of racism is first structural so it encompasses everything in society,
but then prejudice plus power, narrowing it so that when our ideological allies
do things that
are overtly racist it actually no longer becomes no longer applies to them right like it's just
it's just it's just word games right and so you know and all of a sudden they're mad that
republicans have a word that is just getting traction like and and then the worst thing we
have washington general type republicans like you know i don't even call david a french republican
right um but saying like oh
no we shouldn't use this word it's like no this is a very it's a one it's effective and two it's
perfectly justified you know the funniest thing was uh shout out to robbie suave from uh he's
from reason right and he was he said something like it's weird that people are saying students
shouldn't know anything about their teachers lives something like that was that was that yeah yeah i knew nothing about my teacher's lives
but especially in those ages the weirdest sophistry i've ever heard like no one cares
no one is arguing students shouldn't know about their teacher's lives they're like you know i
don't i don't care if the kids know the teacher has a boyfriend i care if the teacher is like
gather around children and let me explain to you classroom instruction on these issues
and you're five years old.
I don't know if you've seen recent Sound Park, but Mr.
Garrison has been talking about his
gay relationship in the third grade class.
I mean,
he's always done that.
Right. Yeah, like it's literally like, but that's
I think that's ultimately what they're trying to justify.
We're South Park.
Remember the episode where
Mr. Garrison,
he transitions.
He becomes a trans woman.
And then he goes on a date
and then he comes in
and Mrs. Garrison is all angry
because all men are pigs
and then tells them
they have to do
weekend book report
on the old man in the sea.
And it was like
South Park actually made jokes about the idea that the teacher would be yelling
at the kids about sexual personal issues.
And that was supposed to be comical in that it's not real life.
I think a lot of kids saw that and it just wrote code in their brain that it was real.
That's the problem with parody.
And if that cartoon was not a cartoon, was a real life show, I think people cannot.
It's not the children who are enacting it, it's the adults who are enacting it. Tiny kids can't tell the difference between comedy and normal stuff. And if that cartoon was not a cartoon and was a real-life show, I think people cannot –
It's not the children who are in acting.
It's the adults who are in acting.
Tiny kids can't tell the difference between comedy and normal stuff.
Okay, well, hold on.
You're talking about something totally offbeat.
I'm talking about the kids that are now teachers were watching that crap back in the day and thinking –
it was writing in their brain like, this is normal, this is normal.
It was like 10 years ago.
Yeah, exactly.
So they were like 10.
But –
They're not 20 years old.
If South Park was a real show with real actors that scene
wouldn't have flown it would have been shut down by the aclu or whoever would have went after him
hard but because it's a cartoon all of a sudden you can do this grotesque comedy and i will say
one of the weirdest things about south park is that like they have overtly sexual situations
between 10 year olds on that show all the time i always thought that was weird but you know
i that's for adults.
It's a show about kids for adults.
And the kids aren't necessarily
meant to be in childish situations.
They're often in adult situations.
Still, I find that weird that
it's just a weird circumstance with the show.
But considering the show isn't overtly about that,
I'm kind of like, whatever.
We got Big Mouth 2.
Big Mouth is messed up.
They animate it and it's like,
okay, it's just a joke
because it's animated,
but it's still training people.
When South Park does one joke
about butters and Cartman
and it's supposed to be like
shockingly grotesque and offensive,
I'm like, man,
they really pushed the line on this one,
but the show isn't overtly about this.
When Big Mouth is literally a show
about children engaging in sexual activities
i'm like why would someone want to watch that you made a great point that it's a show about kids for
adults that's very important it's like an r-rated cartoon yeah so is so is big mouth and big mouth
also is messed up i mean there are some things that are so depraved that they shouldn't be on
television have you ever seen big mouth no i cannot understand why people are like i look i gotta tell you man like i was
saying early on the moral universes are just distinct yeah yeah big mouth is basically a
bunch of kids going through puberty and there's the puberty monster it's a male and a female and
they're always trying to encourage them to do these things or whatever i've seen a couple episodes
because i went to someone's house who was playing it and i immediately was like yo this is like a
nasty show bro i don't want to see a show, even if it's cartoon characters.
There's like a 12-year-old boy beating it in a bathroom, and like that's the joke.
I'm like, that's not a joke.
That's just gross.
People want to watch that?
Hey, man, look, maybe I'm a square these days.
No, no.
That's disgusting.
I thought the same thing when I saw that show.
Well, look at Cuties.
I think there's a trend here with what they're doing.
Yeah.
And they defended that to the death, too.
They defended cuties like crazy.
Yeah, well, and for a little while on the left, they were calling this, what, pedophilia hysteria?
And now we're seeing a little bit of a resurgence of that.
And what people are concerned about with the response to this bill isn't that it was just some small handful of particularly perverted teachers who took issue with it it's that the entire dominant media culture came out against it and said oh of course adults have the right to have secret conversations about sexual matters
with children that's sick it's not a moral panic to say that there's something deeply wrong with
the social fabric of this country and we need to address it it feels like the term groomer has
sparked something in people and i was telling lydia before it feels like cold water is splashed
on these people's faces the way they're reacting to it like They're shaken, they're afraid, and they're like,
the guy's article that we just read, he wasn't
saying that the
conservatives are wrong for saying grooming.
He's like, what's the big deal about it? He's genuinely
asking the question because he wants to figure
it out. Somebody super chatted us this. They said,
why is everyone forgetting about the gay men's
chorus? And I was like, we'll convert your children.
I was just going to mention that.
The group defended itself calling the video tongue-in-cheek humor but it's
like yo you said we're coming for your children you think we'll corrupt your kids if our agenda
goes unchecked funny justice once you're correct we'll convert your children happens bit by bit
quietly and subtly and you'll barely notice it you can keep them from disco warn about san francisco
make them wear pleated pants we don't care we'll convert your children we'll make them tolerant and
fair and then they say we'll convert your children someone's got to teach
them not to hate we're coming for them we're coming for your children we're coming for them
we're coming for your children and then they like they do and then people are like please don't and
they're like you hate gay people yeah well or those examples of teachers on tiktok going on
about how they are going to educate your child on being non-binary and alternative sexual
lifestyles. Can you imagine if some
conservative group made this video
but about conversion therapy or something?
Or Christianity. It'd be completely deleted off the internet.
That would be it. Where's the Christian version?
We're going to teach your children
values and make them worship the Lord and all that
stuff. They'd freak out. They'd lose their minds.
Yeah. The reason they're
so upset is because people are over the target.
They've accurately taken this massive amount of untoward behavior by teachers, by adults of all kinds,
that should not be happening, and they've labeled it with something.
They've branded it, and now it's a really, really sticky brand.
Let me pull up this story.
We have from TimCast.com.
Ohio introduces parental rights.
An education bill takes aim at promotion of divisive concepts in schools.
So this was just from the other day, and it's similar to what we're seeing with Florida.
Then we have this story from Texas Tribune.
Critics of Texas' push for a don't-say-gay bill say acknowledging LGBTQ people isn't the same as teaching kids about sex well
hey i agree the only so the issue here is uh that's not what what the conservatives the right
or you know people who who are in favor of the parental rights bill did they did that they
associated lgbtq with this bill they said it's called don't say gay now they're complaining
that people think they're linked.
Isn't that just funny?
It's like the point I've been making since the beginning is that someone's like, hey, don't talk to my kids about sex in secret.
And they say you hate gay people.
It's like you created that connection and now you're complaining about the connection existing.
These people live in their own ridiculous universe.
And it's also laughable, too, that they would think that bringing that connection up or creating it would deter people from opposing that bill, as if I'm supposed to say or anyone's supposed to say who is a parent.
You know, I really don't want my child to be groomed or have uncomfortable conversations on sexuality.
On the other hand, it might hurt gay people's feelings if we don't let that happen.
Yeah, the extreme metaphor would be like if the Nazis put clown makeup on their face and then did what they did.
You'd be like, well, they're just joking because they look like clowns.
Like you can't just say you're gay and then all devious behavior is okay.
It doesn't matter what your sexuality or how you claim, what you identify as.
It doesn't matter.
A bunch of clansmen wearing clown makeup and being like, no, no, no.
It's not about racism.
It's about clowns.
You just hate clowns.
You just hate clowns.
We're not buying it, dude.
It's a weird position,
but the left keeps doing
it, and I wonder if it's actually working at this point.
Because you look at the polls, man, people
are just not having it. Parents
support the parental rights and
education bill, because when you read it, when you
read the summary, when you read the simple language,
it all makes sense.
It's so interesting to me that the
first thing they say when you say
this is not good and we don't want groomies that you hate gay people because it seems to me
like based on the chorus that we just you know talked about and i was thinking about that earlier
i was like they literally told us flat out they're coming for our children i feel like they're telling
on themselves and they're like well you hate gay people because then they're like we're joking yeah
we're just joking remember when that did you remember remember when those dudes went around
claiming that they were nazis but then they were like, yo, it's ironic.
These people don't deserve the benefit of the doubt.
Agreed.
Neither do the people who are claiming to be ironic Nazis either, truth be told.
Yeah, if you're going to parody, I mean, I think it should say parody on the thing before you load it up.
Like a Twitter account, you go to a profile, it says this is a parody account.
You can't have to sift through it to find out after the fact. Was that a parody or not?
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
I got it.
I got it.
And this is good at parody.
So I want to know what you think.
You have to accept the satirical posts you make.
I know this because I post ridiculous garbage all the time.
I tweeted something like Elon Musk is on the board.
The fashion.
I was like, what if he just lets all the fascists and Nazis back on Twitter?
And then I put a crying emoji.
Yes, I fully understand that some people may see that tweet and think it's real.
I don't care because it's not that serious.
But if somebody wants to come out and make extreme statements like we're coming for your children or that they're Nazis, you better expect people to believe you're being honest about what that is.
People are going to believe your jokes.
They don't know who you are.
Yeah, so it's a good question. This this will convert your children.
Parody isn't a parody in the proper sense because it's not as if they're coming out and saying the opposite of what they actually want to do.
Right.
So if I do a cartoon with a character named Republican man who comes out and goes, I'm going to put cigarettes and happy meals and get everyone's children addicted to smoking for corporate profits or something ridiculous.
That's a parody.
That's satirical because that's not something I, as a conservative,
would actually be pushing for. I'm making fun of the way left-wing people portray conservatives.
But what they're doing here is they're, in some sense, trying to poke fun at or delegitimize
this idea that conservatives will say gay people will try to groom or convert their children,
but they do so by saying, oh, no, we will convert your children. But they try to use flowery language to describe that conversion.
So they say, well, we'll groom them or convert them into being more tolerant or better people
or more accepting people when those are really all just synonyms for what Republicans are
talking about in the first place, which is accepting sexual degeneracy or engaging in
it.
If Republicans actually were putting some kind of addictive chemical or advocating for it in Happy Meals, then I think the distinction there works better.
Like conservatives clearly aren't in favor of addictive chemicals in food for children.
Except for high fructose corn syrup.
Which is why that would be satire.
Well, but you're talking about something a bit more nuanced, right?
But then – so the issue here is conservatives are like, I think you're secretly grooming grooming my children and then they make a video saying they're doing it it's like okay exactly
exactly no one's accusing republicans saying okay i'm the villain you think i am watch me be
villainous now like that's not a joke like this is something the left does all the time they will
for years resist the accusations thrown at them by the right only to come out and accept the
accusation in a cheeky manner so they'll go yeah no we are trying to
convert your kids and because they're doing it in a quote-unquote self-aware way they see it as
clever or acceptable when they're just telling us something that we already knew like when biden
said he was obama's vice president a couple days ago like obviously i think he's not i think he
doesn't know he was just joking right but that but he was the vice but he's making a statement
about it's kind of fact like obama's way more likable and powerful than he is.
It's true.
Maybe not on paper today, but –
I don't care.
We see this in other ways though too, right?
You can't look at –
He's trying to parody himself.
He didn't work.
People will look at these videos of Biden and then try and push him to the most extreme interpretation.
I don't play that game.
People are like, look at this video of Biden being lost.
And I'm like, he was looking for someone specific.
Like he was supposed to bring someone up and introduce him and he couldn't find him.
And so when Biden's like, I'm the vice president, everyone laughs.
I'm like, I don't care if he said that.
He was making, he used to be Biden, he used to be Obama's vice president.
Now, when he says Trinidad and Chabot of pressure,
Batacavcare and Nexenalressin, I'm like, that should be mocked and questioned for sure.
Yeah.
My point is that the left has a habit of denying
accusations that Republicans throw at them to come out and either pretend to be cheeky or act
as if they're bold by acknowledging that it was true all along, even though they spent years
denying it. So we see this with people like Beto O'Rourke going, yeah, we're going to come after
your AR-15. Yeah, we're going to take your guns or what was popular among the left about five or
six years ago, which is going, yeah, I'm a socialist. I actually do believe in that because for years and years and years they've been denying it but
then at some point they come out and they act like they're brave and bold and original for
acknowledging the accusation that we have been throwing at them for years that they've repeatedly
well it turns out it turns out the slopes are in fact slippery yes right like that's that's the key
thing to realize right they would be like oh that you're just that's a slippery slope fallacy
actually like we should be at a point where slippery slope is a default assumption that accurately describes reality.
And then you have to prove that actually, no, this is one of those cases.
Almost every single argument.
Patriot Act, it's like it's a slippery slope to this.
Ah, you're overreacting.
And then you get 10 years later the indefinite detention provisions and the NDAA.
Do people really not think that in 10 years, like, pedophilia will just be another sexual orientation?
Like, in the view of the left
it'll be a metaverse in 10 years exactly it'll start digitally on the metaverse all of the people
who come out in favor of two are going to act as if they're either being cheeky or being bold in
this exact same way we see this non-stop how long is it before some lefty writes an article about
how actually the grooming that was being discussed all along is in their view morally legitimate and
then act like they're they're bold for saying so when we knew the entire time that that's how they felt i think in 10 years
this is the joke we've said the republican party will be a bunch of you know transgender communists
and the left will be metaverse you know um what's what's what's what's the hive mind uh metaverse
yeah we'll be trying to hold the line on pedophilia bad in 10 years.
We'll be fighting that debate.
Well, Republicans, no.
Right, right.
But Republicans are gradually just giving in to whatever the left wants.
Exactly.
Well, hopefully this is how we stop it.
True, true.
Don't give up the brand.
It's ignorant.
Say grooming because it is grooming.
But the bills are simple.
They're simple.
It's not like what the left is doing with these nefarious tactics.
It's like conservatives are just like, we want to make sure parents know what's going on.
They're responsive.
And they're losing their mind.
Because they don't.
The downside is they're responding to the actions and they're not looking far enough ahead to see what's coming to prevent it, which is the metaverse.
Grooming in the metaverse.
Digital grooming.
Then you try to get haptic feedback machines where you can actually feel things on your body haptically.
That's incredibly disturbing to think about a five-year-old with a haptic feedback suit being groomed by some old man on the Internet.
So think about that.
You've got to start thinking ahead, guys, if you're making legislation and preparing and protecting from this stuff.
Ban the Internet.
Just get rid of it all.
Everyone can use telephones. I think you're right that in order to fight against this,
one of the things we absolutely have to do is refer to this as grooming.
We need to continue to use the proper language to discuss and summarize these things.
But on top of that, it isn't just enough to use the word.
We have to treat it as if it actually is grooming.
If someone says, I don't support the don't say gay law,
and then you explain what the law actually is to them,
and after looking into it and doing the research and learning what it means they're still against it stop associating with
that person they're okay with grooming children i know we talk a lot on the right about how we
shouldn't disassociate with people because we disagree with their politics but this is not
disagreeing on politics this is one group of people saying it should be okay to sexually
confuse and groom children those are not the kinds of people you want to associate with or have in
your life it there has to be a social cost
that a person pays
for supporting grooming.
I understand.
I don't know if ostracization is the key.
I don't know.
You might be right, though.
Look, that's what I've been saying.
There's two distinct universes here.
The left knows exactly what they're doing.
Imagine there's two battleships in the ocean
and one of them is firing the missiles
and they're just coming straight at the other
and saying, it's getting bombed.
And then on that ship, they're like,
now slow down, we don't want to fight with the other guys.
It's like, dude, at a certain point,
you just say, hey, why don't we leave?
Sometimes the fight is picked with you,
and you don't get to choose.
Exactly.
And as we say, socialists don't have kids,
they have yours.
Exactly.
And this entire conservative commitment
to never hurting anybody's feelings
or always being open-minded and tolerant towards other perspectives, including the most absurd far left left perspectives imaginable.
It doesn't really work with a lot of issues, especially issues like this.
People have to stand up against this. This isn't just some abstraction.
They're actually coming after children.
I am I am genuinely convinced in 10 years the Republican Party is going to be a bunch of LGBTQIA comments.
Well, look where we are.
Because I sit down and argue with conservatives about the Ahmaud Arbery case because they actually come in here and they're like, I believe that was all justified that the guy who filmed it is going to prison for the rest of his life.
And I'm like, why would he go to prison?
And they're like, well well because they did it and i'm like bro if if people on the right are still sending their kids to college people with a straight face come in here come on this
show and they're like yeah mom sending my kids to college and i'm like do you watch the show you're
about to be on do you know what is happening in your country why would you advocate for that for
your kids they'll be fine apparently i guess that's the way everything goes just tired of
being parents for 18 years and are looking forward to the break or something. Yeah, but the break is simple.
Hey, you're 18.
Get a job.
Move out.
Get an apartment.
You don't got to go to college to do that.
But this is the point.
When you have people on Fox and conservatives saying, you know what I think it was?
So that they didn't look racist with the Kyle Rittenhouse thing.
They said, well, the Kyle Rittenhouse thing proves that justice is served.
And the Ahmaud Arbery thing proves that we all believe in true justice. No, the right caved on the Ahmaud
Arbery stuff because they don't want to look racist because many Republicans are more worried
about the opinion of the New York Times than their own constituents and whatever else is,
you know, they're worried about with big media. Yes, which is why conservatives do not stand up
for their own values and which is why we are in a situation where if
you are in favor of the grooming bill there are zero social consequences but if you're against it
you could potentially lose your job depending upon who your employer is depending on whether
they're offended by that perspective people are too afraid to speak out against the abuse of
children because they don't want to lose their job that's insane and last time i was on the show i
was talking about this and i was very pessimistic but i want to say this if you're an audience
member who's watching this, I believe in you.
I think you have the opportunity to speak out against this stuff.
You should.
And I think you're going to do it.
I think the people watching this show are going to get fed up with this stuff, as fed up with it as we are.
And they're going to be bold about it.
And I really hope you are.
It was a couple of years ago.
We were talking about how you need to stand up against the wokeness because they're literally burning down cities.
People are dying.
And we kept hearing people saying, yeah, but I'll lose my job and I have kids.
Okay, well, now the issue has escalated to the point where they're grooming your kids in these public schools.
And people are like, but I'll lose my job.
And it's like, okay, dude, look, if you are okay with your kids being at these schools where you know they're grooming them because you don't want to lose your job,
then I don't think I need to advocate for any of this stuff to you because you're not interested
in actually making things better. I understand life's hard. But the crazy thing to me is that
people once got on a boat for three months to come to a barren shoreline and many of them died
just because they were like, I need a better life for my kids. And now people are like,
I don't know what I would do if I lost my job. Well, like Seamus said, there's other jobs out there.
There's a path forward.
But more importantly, I guess maybe it's easy for me to say I don't have kids.
And that's what everyone says.
But I've asked this question of everybody.
Would you rather have a job and know that your kids spend eight hours a day with a groomer
or be homeless with your kid not knowing where your food is coming from? And everyone always says homeless with your kid not knowing where your food's coming from and everyone always says homeless with my kid not knowing where my
food is coming from yeah so that's it right yeah it's yeah i mean it's like but you know this is
why we need laws right like because ultimately you know people need to be able to work like part
of like what we're all trying to build on the right i assume is a world again where you can
yes people can sustain a family on a single income. People can not necessarily have to do child care.
And I think one of the basic functions of public education, especially those early ages where you're talking like 5 to 10, is child care.
That's a basic function that the state is performing so that people can go off to work and not have to stay home with their kids.
I want to mention one more thing.
I want to mention this because on last show when we did talk about this, I said I
was a little bit blackmailed and I was saying that there are people who really will watch
the show and think about these ideas, but they're too afraid to talk about them.
And reading the comment section, it turns out there are a lot of people who insist that
they are talking about these things in real life and at their work.
And I just, you know, I really want to commend them because I know that's very difficult.
I know it's very difficult to do.
And I genuinely have faith in this audience
that if you're watching this
and you don't usually talk about this stuff,
you have to, and I really believe you can and will.
It sends out shockwaves when you communicate concepts.
You see it reverberating through our collective consciousness.
We're going to talk about Republicans.
How about this?
We have this tweet from Poster Tubs who says,
Spencer Cox, the Republican governor of Utah, is now officially using the term Latinx,
Latinx, in government documents.
You can't make this up.
And here you can see it says, it just says, Latinx.
Here's the best part.
Take a look at this from, this is from STL Tribune.
Conservative group shares misleading video of Utah Governor Spencer Cox listing his pronouns.
The Zoom call was part of a town hall with high school students last spring.
Say in April 2021, Zoom call of Spencer Cox, Republican, listing his pronouns during a town hall for high school students has spread on social media.
After a conservative group shared an edited version of it.
How is that misleading?
It's literally him sharing his pronouns. They go on to say the original 30 minute zoom call was part of the one Utah student town
hall held last year where Utah high school students asked the Republican governor questions
about the state's COVID-19 response. The edited video makes it appear the governor listed his
pronouns right after introducing himself. The statement is followed by the added sound of a
sad trombone. During the town hall, one student from Tuakon High School for
the Arts in Irvins
listed her pronouns when called upon
to ask the governor a question. She then
asked what his plans were to boost mental health
services in schools, citing a survey
that found gay and lesbian youth face a higher risk
for depression. Well, thank you so much
for that question, and my preferred pronouns are
he, him, so thank you for sharing yours
with me. How is it misleading to show that he literally did that he did right because any like any real
republican would just be like okay and then not list their pronouns right uh misleading sorry
again this is a new redefinition misleading is something that makes a progressive look bad
regardless of whether it's truthful exactly right so like that used to be i understand this actually
has some reasonable like heritage
in English common law.
It took a while before like truth was a defense to libel claims.
Right.
Like that was some,
yeah,
that was actually Alexander Hamilton litigated that case
where he was the first,
or was a lawyer who finally won the argument in American courts.
That's like,
Hey,
I guess we have this first amendment now,
which means that this idea that libel doesn't,
that truth is not a defense to libel,
that can't be right.
Right.
So, but that, you know, it used to be,
I forget what the exact term of it,
but it's like libel used to be just statements
that embarrass someone,
regardless of whether or not they're true.
And you could sue for that.
Yeah, you could sue for that, right.
And before this?
Before, like, before, really before the Constitution,
even in the United, like, colonial United States.
I hope people realize that could happen again.
We could find ourselves in a medieval situation where you get thrown in prison for insulting what someone else receives.
That's crazy.
That's where we're going.
Shout out to Alexander Hamilton.
Right, yeah.
Great guy.
I'm a big Hamilton guy as opposed to a Jefferson guy.
Hamilton actually saw what...
Jefferson basically wanted us to be an agrarian slave society uh like you know I mean he didn't like
slavery that much but he wanted that and Hamilton was the guy who's like no actually you know we
should we should have a really powerful country in general like America should be strong well
so going back to the main story though this is just another very common and typical erosion
among Republicans who give in immediately
because they're spineless.
Yeah, no, I mean, I usually joke that name a more useless Republican than Mitt Romney,
who's, I love that tweet because everybody engages with it and lists more useless Republicans.
So, but yeah, like Utah, what's going on with Utah, guys?
Like you're, this is a red, red state and we have this wackadoodle liberal governor and a wackadoodle rhino senator.
Get your stuff together.
Imagine insulting yourself on that level, being a man, but telling people that you expect to be referred to as he, him, as if they wouldn't otherwise know.
What a ridiculous cell phone. I would, if like I was in a situation
where for whatever reason,
they were like, you have to list your pronouns.
I would absolutely just make up
some really long and ridiculous word
and be like, do it or don't.
Fascinating thing about pronouns is it's like,
it comes out when you're not there, right?
How often do you're like, oh, he,
and like they're not in the world.
It's like the only reason you use third person pronouns
is because you're not talking to that person. Right. Right. So it's like, you want to control how I think about you when you're not in the world. It's like the only reason you use third person pronouns is because you're not talking to that person.
Right.
Right.
So it's like you want to control how I think about you when you're not here.
That's the craziest thing.
Which is you're right.
You're actually doing violence against me if you don't think about me the way I want to be thought of.
You know Ezra Miller?
The Flash in the DC Cinematic Universe or whatever.
Or whatever it's called.
Ezra Miller came out as non-binary.
So all the news articles say they, them.
And it's like. You're butchering the English language. But it's not even that. Like Ezra Miller, as my non-binary so all the news articles say they them and it's like
but it's not even that like Ezra Miller
as my understanding is not trans
like just came out and said you have to call me
they them and they're like okay
I understand
there's an argument for
a trans woman who is
overtly passing and
it was like what Ben Shapiro was saying
about Blair it would be very
difficult or take a long time to explain why we use a male pronoun for Blair White in public to
his friends. So he would just say she, her, it's the easiest way to go about things. But in, you
know, literary or in articles, he would say he, him. And I'm like, I understand that point. I
understand why it is simpler just to refer to someone as she, her, if they're overtly feminine or he, him for a trans man who's overtly masculine, like Buck Angel,
for instance. But when we're talking about some, you know, some guy who's like, I'm non-binary,
but he's still just a regular, you know, young man. Well, you can't just tell people I have to
refer to you in a certain way. You don't own that, that you're, you're, you exist outside of,
I exist. Okay i i exist okay you
exist over there i've never seen you and yet i'm supposed to refer to him by pronouns i never met
the guy well i don't know if you know this tim but as it turns out you get to define your identity
without anyone around you having to consent to it even though by definition your identity is how
you fit into the group that you're interacting with human society yeah it's like the group that
you're interacting with has absolutely no say in how you're perceived. It's completely
all up to you. And if they disagree with that, they're just
mean. In fact, they're violent. Until realism kicks in and
the Ukrainian government's turning trans
women back because they're actually
men that are now trans women or they converted.
We need the strong
muscle on the front. I don't care how you identify.
There's always something interesting.
Sometimes the
pro-trans lobby, if you will, points to certain societies and say, look, there's always something interesting like there's sometimes they the tramp like pro-trans lobby if you will points to certain societies say look there's an example of
of of you know how the society's recognized trans people and it's like the reason for that
particular society is because they're so homophobic that the only way that you can
is if you transition in ukraine a female to male transgender person dressed up in women's clothing
and then crossed the border to escape
because I guess now,
identifying as a woman,
she didn't want to go to war.
And because of hormone therapy presented,
hormone therapy presented as male
and would have got stopped at the border
and then sent to go fight.
I find that fascinating.
Then you have basically,
no matter what the circumstances,
that you have trans women and trans men just trying to justify escape from the country in whatever way they can. The trans women are like, but I'm actually, you know, a woman,
so I should be allowed to leave, but they're not letting me. And the trans man is like,
time to dress up like a woman and say I'm a woman so I can get out of here.
Like, if you want to be a man that comes with the pros and the cons of being a man.
Conscription has always been one of them.
But this is one of the big things that
we saw at the turn of the century with the suffrage movement.
The women who opposed it
were like, we don't want male responsibilities
in our lives. Which include, I believe,
the fire brigade was one issue in some areas.
If you had been having the right to vote
meant that you'd be called upon as a man
to fight in the fire brigade.
And they believed they could be drafted. That something that they feared right and they will be yeah
because they will be next time because if we have a draft if we ever have a draft again people are
just gonna identify as women to get out of the draft it'll be a easy form of draft that's a very
good point and so you'll very quickly have to start drafting women too did you hear about what's
going on was it pasadena where is it where they're going to be giving
UBI to people who are non-binary?
Yeah, so I was just thinking about that
and I was going to bring it up.
I think this is a brilliant bill
for our cause, frankly, because
they're only allocating about $200,000
to this program, which means they're going to run out
very quickly. Everyone will get a buck. And it's impossible
to define non-binary
because it's a non-existent
meaningless term. So a bunch of people are going to say they're non-binary to get the money.
And it's going to run out extremely quickly. And people are going to see how ridiculous
the, it's just going to be another demonstration of how nonsensical the modern gender theory BS is.
Man, I was, my dad was a fireman growing up and we went to the fire department in some of the
early nineties, I think it was like 12 or 13. and there's a woman that worked there and i was like hey how come there's
a girl that's a fireman and he was like oh she because women can be firemen too and i was like
well what wouldn't she be called a firewoman he's like no they're all called firemen and then when
i went to college it was like yeah we're all actors men and women we're all considered actors
we don't use the word actress it's ridiculous so i got it i mean it doesn't really care matter what
you call it it's more about who you are and i. And I was like, can she carry the heavy equipment?
And he was like, no, she works at the desk.
Not that she couldn't carry the heavy equipment.
She trained for it.
But it was more about less what you call yourself and more what you actually are.
That's what it comes down to when the crap hits the fan, my friends.
I've never really cared about the words people used to describe me.
It's the weirdest thing that people are like, you have to use someone's pronouns or else,
but we're going to insult you and call you names all day and night.
Like, no, no, no.
You can't insult me.
I have dictated the words you must use to describe me.
That Bill C-16 in Canada?
Yeah, it's that Matt Walsh point.
That's the thing, yeah.
It's violence and abuse to misgender someone
or not use the proper pronouns,
but to try to have secret conversations with children
about sexually depraved behaviors, that's not grooming.
Dude, isn't it illegal in Canada to do that now?
Bill C-16? And then they
passed another one that Jordan Peterson was talking about.
I didn't look into it yet, but apparently
if you misuse someone's pronouns,
it can be a hate speech crime.
This is insane.
Hopefully I'm not miscalculating this.
Let me know in the super chats or something.
Yeah, no, there's some bill in Canada that's like dictating independent media or whatever.
I think Jordan Peterson was tweeting about it.
They want to control what reporters and people with large media platforms can say.
That's where it's all headed because you saw what the CEO of Twitter said years ago,
that we have to – it's not about free speech.
It's about how the times are changing and we have to create a healthy conversation and it's just like these people are definition megalomaniac sociopath
psychos all that stuff my worldview is the only worldview my worldview is moral and just and
everyone must adhere to the way i see things that is psychotic behavior and sometimes the way we
see things they'll do that cult thing where it's like me and a bunch of other weirdos that have my
same mentality so we are stronger in numbers.
Let me pull up this story from TimCast.com.
Palm Springs testing guaranteed
income program for transgender
and non-binary residents. The program
is one of several in California offering specific
groups of people with subsidized income.
So let me get this straight. If
it comes to the point where trans
people, LGBTQ people, minorities
are getting subsidized income.
That just basically means white people pay taxes to subsidize all of the other marginalized groups.
That's the end result, isn't it?
I suppose, really, it's everyone pays taxes, but it only benefits one group.
That doesn't sound right.
They say, TimCcaster.com reports last month the city council of paul springs voted unanimously to allocate two hundred thousand dollars to develop a guaranteed income pilot
program for transgender and non-binary residents on march 24th the city council agreed to pay dap
health and queer works to design the program and apply for state funding part of the three phases
outlined in the city report to bring the proposed project to fruition california has already made a
statewide commitment to provide 3535 million in funding for guaranteed
income pilot programs.
Like other guaranteed income programs, the Palm Springs pilot program would provide direct
cash payments to individuals to spend as they see fit.
It is set apart from some financial assistance programs that come with work requirements,
et cetera, et cetera.
I'll tell you what's going to happen.
If you put this money up, you're going to have a whole lot of people being like,
oh, yeah, I'm non-binary, sure.
How much do I make?
How much do I get?
Self-government in California has always been a huge mistake,
or at least in the last 40 years.
Then who should govern it?
Yeah, right.
Like, you know, 180 years of statehood is enough.
I think it probably needs to return to being a colonial territory.
Split it in half.
Do you agree with that?
California would benefit from being split in half?
I mean, it depends on how you split it, right right like you you need to carve out there there's a lot
of red californians right there's probably more conservatives in california than in any other
state because california is so populated right right so there's probably you know even 60 40
democrat that's eight million republicans and we can use those reinforcements in texas sure or any
or anywhere else in the country and in, that's what's happening with a lot
of them are moving. I have so many.
I'm from California originally. I have so many
Californian friends and acquaintances who are moving.
There's a proposal that
would take the western
coastline, which goes from
San Diego, Los Angeles, up to
San Francisco, and then that would be
its own state, because the
rest is red. I wouldn't do that.
I would want to make it half and half if I could.
Like, give San Francisco to the north to be the capital.
Make it half and half.
It's two blue states.
Because you have all that farm.
It's two what?
It's two blue states, right?
You have to take both big metro areas.
But it's already a blue state, isn't it?
Right, but then you're creating two new Democratic senators for no good reason.
It's not even about that.
It's that you're not solving any problems by doing it.
I just don't see how, like, the Los Angeles government can govern the Redwoods.
That's why it's look, if you cut the state in half, you don't solve any problems.
You still have the Democrats who agree with the Democrats, whether the state is one or
two states, you still have Republicans in certain areas being shut down and for the
two and the residents of Tulare, for instance,
Tulare County being oppressed by the Democrats in the big cities and having their water taken
away from them.
So if you want to actually solve the problems and restore people's rights, we tell all the
people who live in these big cities, you got to be responsible for yourself and work out
legitimate agreements for trade with the people who live in these marginalized communities.
But it's fascinating to me that they come out and constantly say,
we must protect the marginalized communities. But the entire structure of California oppresses the eastern desert areas,
southeastern areas, and I cite Tulare specifically,
because the state takes their water away from them,
takes away their surface water rights.
The history of Los Angeles, the Owens River Valley is this place in northern California.
Fascinating history.
So William Mulholland, who they named Mulholland Drive after,
went and he basically got them to sign over their water rights in the Owens River Valley.
So then he diverted their water.
LA shouldn't exist as it does.
No, it doesn't.
It's from outside water sources.
It annihilated the lives of all these farmers in the Owens River Valley.
And then there was a giant flood.
The dam broke and all these people died.
It's a horrific story.
And that's the beginning of Los Angeles as we know it today.
What a terrible state.
It's got beautiful mountains.
It's got lush greenery and redwoods.
California is a gorgeous state.
PG&E is running all those wires through the forest.
All those California fires, man, they're coming from PG&E.
Not all of them.
PG&E, they're not taking care of their power lines.
So they're falling down and catching trees on fire.
They spent a whole bunch of money on sustainability and not on like clearing the lines around.
Like this is not a hard.
We've solved this technical problem for decades.
It's like PG&E just didn't spend the money on clearing out the forests around the power lines.
I want to explain to everybody how it's going to work under this progressive utopia.
In California, I went and visited Tulare County, Tulare County,
how do you pronounce it? I believe it's got 300,000 residents. They have no voting power.
So these poor migrant workers, all of a sudden, one day their water dried up in their wells.
There was a drought. And I can understand that. The farmers in this county weren't allowed to
take surface water that they had a lot of. I remember driving past these canals full of water and I asked the farmer like, hey,
you got water right there?
And he goes, oh, we can't touch that.
And all the surface water goes right to the cities because they just take it from us.
I'm like, how is that protecting marginalized communities that the wealthy elites say, we
get all the water and you guys go screw yourself?
We need to protect the farmers.
Yeah.
If we had an electoral vote type system, representational voting in California the way we do nationwide,
then Tulare County would have more power and that would force the urban centers to negotiate
with them as to what they actually give up.
Instead, the urban centers say, there's more of us than there are of you, so we get your
water.
They're at the end of a dying nation.
And not that the United States, no, these people think cities are the heart of the country
are wrong.
It's the farms.
And you can now learn on the Internet as if you have a city.
You can get stuff shipped to you.
Our shipping is so with drone shipping and the advancement drone shipping, farms are going to become even more central.
The fact that Bill Gates is buying up all this farmland is very concerning to me, like corporate farmland.
We're going to have to disperse that back to the people at some point.
Let's just do it peacefully.
Let's bring it back to this story.
And I just want to mention,
they are extracting from the merit
and they are giving to the unmerited.
This UBI program and other programs
basically say, if you produce, we will take,
and we will give it to people for arbitrary reasons.
I mean, is that not socialism?
Oh, yeah, that's pure socialism.
But, I mean, it's going to be a miserable thing.
It's precursor socialism, I guess, is the better way to say it.
It's the seeds of socialism.
It's the grooming process of socialism.
So you have a farmer who farms and he makes food,
and then eventually they come in and they say,
we're taking your farmer away from you, you elite,
and we're giving it to all the people who work here. And all the people who work here don't know how to farm, and then everyone star come in and they say, we're taking your farm away from you, you elite, and we're giving it to all the people who work here.
And all the people who work here don't know how to farm.
And then everyone starves to death.
Or worse still, they're like, everyone melt down your tools to make pig iron.
And then everyone starves to death.
I think that's been done before.
Yeah.
By the Soviets.
Hey, I got an idea.
Believe it or not.
What if we just did that?
Can we find like a town and just run someone as mayor and he can just overtly run on failed socialist Soviet policy?
Just to see how many people are willing to support him.
His name is Bernie Sanders.
No, but I mean like outright being like, we need to get everybody to melt down their rakes.
Melt down the rakes.
And their shovels.
This is the only developed country in the world where we don't melt down our rakes.
Jet fuel does not melt steel beams.
But imagine going to like Brunswick, Maryland, running for mayor.
And your position is we should get everyone to melt down their metal because we need iron for the war effort.
And then they're like, what are you doing?
It's like, I'm just being a socialist.
That's what you guys want, right?
Socialist.
Or actually, I actually, you know, we were talking about if somebody actually did start running for office in our area.
And I was like, why is that funny?
People were like, hey, we should get someone that we know to run for mayor.
Wouldn't that be funny?
And I'm like, no, it would be awesome because we should be involved in politics and we should be running for office.
Yeah, do you want to do it, Will?
What, move out here?
Oh, I don't know.
Running out here, but run somewhere.
Run somewhere. I mean, let's see. Yeah, like why aren't people being like, I'm going to run for mayor? Yeah, that out here? Oh, I don't know. Just run? Running out here, but run somewhere. Run somewhere.
I mean, let's see.
Yeah, like, why aren't people being like, I'm going to run for mayor?
Yeah, that's what I asked.
I live in Arlington, so, like, I would lose.
John Astor.
When I move to North Carolina, we'll talk about it.
With that attitude, you would lose.
Just run as a Democrat.
Run as a Democrat who opposes critical race theory.
See how well you do.
Right, yeah.
No one would go digging in my Twitter history.
Delete my Twitter.
Wait a minute.
That wasn't me.
John Astor went to New York City and then built Astoria.
He built a city, part of a city, and then just named it after himself.
That's the way.
That's cool.
Because then you know where everything is, and you have control of the layout and stuff like that.
You can do it right from the beginning.
You know what we should do?
We mentioned it before.
We'll make a coffee shop called the Coffee Beanie.
But then at 7 p.m. every night, the sign flips over and it says Ian's Palace.
And then all of like the counters and everything spin around and changes into an entirely different building.
Wouldn't that be cool?
We're on the verge of like graphene pipes.
I don't know if technology is good enough to replace copper piping, but copper rusts and then you get copper oxide in your water.
It's really bad for you and your skin.
Polyvinyl chloride, man. What do you mean?
Good old PVC.
I'm lost.
If we're going to build a city
from the ground up, I want to avoid
copper piping.
It's really nasty.
In Crosslandia,
whatever you have to say.
What about a denser
metal? Maybe something... Lead. That's dens yeah. I love it. What about like a denser metal? Maybe something, lead.
Lead?
Yeah, lead pipes.
Yeah, I think lead's not a good idea.
And then after we lay it, we'll complain to the government,
and we'll talk about the poor children of Ian's Palace suffering,
and we need the government to subsidize the replacement of these pipes that we built.
What would you do at Ian's Palace the first night?
If I was staying at Ian's Palace, it depends what kind of establishment is this.
Would I even be there in the first place? What kind of seedy nonsense you got going on over there at Ian's Palace? I can't do it was hanging out at Ian's Palace, it depends what kind of establishment is this. Would I even be there in the first place?
What kind of seedy nonsense you got going on over there at Ian's Palace?
I can't do it without you, Shannon.
I mean, no, what's going on?
Seedy nonsense.
What's going on?
This place is going to be G-rated if I'm there.
I'm into it.
All right, perfect.
So what are we serving?
DMT.
What kind of whiskey?
Well, all right, DMT.
You said G-rated.
G-rated.
No, no, I'm not into psychedelic drugs.
Caffeine.
Psychoactive drugs.
Those are legal. We'll serve coffee.
Ian's Palace, you'd think it was like a lounge, but you'd go in there and it would be just a bunch of people hooking and talking about graphene.
We're trying to figure out how to map inflation.
If you can redefine the second, what is it, the ideal gas law, PV equals NRT,ure equals volume times temperature.
You can then add some sort of expansionary variable to that so that you can get –
like right now when a system inflates – is anyone listening to me right now?
No, I'm listening.
I'm listening.
When a system inflates, it just goes out and in.
And that's the ideal gas law explains how to get water out of a system,
but it doesn't explain fusion. What're doing the heat that you're getting in the
system that causes it to expand is causing it to expand faster which causes more friction which
causes more heat to enter the system to expand faster and then you get inflation which is why
you have fusion but people haven't mathematically written that out yet and someone out there is
going to do it well all right let's talk about politics we have this uh we have this tweet from
chris hayes he says was just checking on what happened in the 1946 midterms as the nation
readjusted after a historic society-wide disruption and inflation was eight percent
don't google it so i googled it yeah of course and we found that uh the 1946 election resulted
in republicans picking up 55 seats to win majority control.
Well, times, they are a changing.
It's very different these days.
The parties represent very different ideas.
But I think it is fair to say, yeah, I mean, maybe that much.
Could you imagine if we get blindsided by a Republican supermajority in the House?
How many seats would they need to win for a supermajority?
Well, there's no such thing as a House supermajority, right?? How many seats would they need to win for a supermajority? Well, there's no such thing as a House
supermajority, right?
It's 50%.
Whoever gets 50% plus one can vote.
It's a Senate supermajority would be 60.
I think it's 61.
No, 60.
I don't think that's even conceivable given the map.
So, how many seats
do you guys think the Republicans are going to need to pick up
to keep not doing anything? Oh, man. Probably all of them. But hold on. Hear me you guys think the Republicans are going to need to pick up to keep not doing anything?
Oh, man.
Probably all of them.
You know, but hold on.
Hear me out.
If the Republicans actually are able.
I'm being a cynic.
I'm being a cynic.
But hold on.
Let's be real.
Let's be real.
If they're able to pick up like 55 seats and just change the shape of the House of Representatives, then they'll probably do nothing.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, they're not going to be able to do anything meaningful
because Biden's going to veto it, right?
We're still going to have a Democratic president until 2014.
They can impeach him.
I don't know.
I could see him exiting.
They could.
They can investigate.
That's what they can do.
They can do investigations.
They should make the January 7th committee.
And I actually think, you know, I have heard whispers that Kevin McCarthy
is actually going to, like, go hard on the investigations.
And there's sort of like the Democrats have pissed him off so much over the past two years
that he's actually going to go make them really pay for it a bit.
I don't believe it.
I don't know.
That's what I hear.
If they make the mistake of making McCarthy Speaker of the House,
he's going to be like, I'm going to go after these investigations.
And then he's going to be standing tall in the moment.
They're like, and McCarthy has it. He's going to go, and then he's going to be standing tall in the moment. They're like, and McCarthy has,
he's going to go.
And then he's just going to be like,
I'm tired.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's more McComber.
I worry about it,
but who knows?
I mean,
it could be,
I mean,
that's what they're going to do.
Like,
I mean,
I know there's,
they're not going to,
I think there is definitely like a lot of resistance.
Like I heard Matt Gates talking about this.
Like there's a lot of resistance into doing what the Paul Ryan Republican house did during
Obama, which was just pass a bunch of bills that they knew never were
going to go anywhere and then find themselves yeah subpoenas hunter biden under oath lots and
lots of subpoenas you know get to the bottom of get to the bottom of russia gate get the bottom
of hunter biden testify under oath like they made trump do yeah no just like just embarrassing
they would still call it unprecedented.
Sure, sure.
Here's what happens.
McCarthy, primary the guy.
McConnell, whatever, Senate, I don't care who they are.
Just get them out.
Use primary.
Primary, primary, primaries across the board.
Get rid of everybody.
Bye-bye.
I'm looking up.
Ideally.
I'm trying to put my mind in the heads of people in 1946 when they did this.
It was post-World War II, so they're just getting out of this traumatic world war.
Harry Truman.
Was Truman Republican?
Truman was a Democrat.
Truman had not been elected, right?
He was a vice president,
and he was, you know,
when Franklin Roosevelt died
right before the end of World War II,
he became president.
So, what caused all these people to get voted in was it i mean just
the end of the war must have been such a paradigm i mean it a lot of the sitting leaders got thrown
out of office right winston churchill got thrown out of office can i just say something real quick
uh don't the democrats claim the parties switched in the late 50s yes they claim that during the
civil rights era the party switched so so how is it after so if the party switched, what Chris Hayes is actually saying when he says don't Google it,
is that he believes Democrats are going to win?
Yeah, maybe they don't believe the party switched.
I don't know.
It's more that he thinks that the party in power is going to take a beating.
Right, right, right.
Like basically this kind of stuff, people are not happy and want something different.
I mean that happened, right?
Winston Churchill literally is the guy who won the war, the guy who's the hero of Britain.
And he got tossed out in a general election.
Yeah, they hated him in the early days because they're like, all he talks about is war.
And he's like, I'm telling you, the Germans are going to declare war.
And he's like, ah, that silly man.
And then finally when the war broke out, they were like, we need him now.
They brought him in when they won the war.
Like, we don't need him anymore.
And he's like, ah, war though.
Oh, man, peace in our time, huh?
What an amazing quote. That's Neville Chamberlain. Right. Right. Yeah. Oops. the war like we don't need him anymore he's like war though man peace in our time huh what a what
what an amazing quote that's neville chamberlain right right yeah just yeah exactly wow um peace
and prosperity because they're not the same thing great book that was a fascinating take on world
war ii from britain's perspective called the phony victory by peter hitchens and his basic thesis is
britain was in effect,
one of the losers of the war.
That Britain, prior to the war,
had some pretensions of being a great power,
and post-war,
they were a vassal
of the United States.
Yep.
And they better know it.
And they basically, like,
found themselves
in a war situation
where they were basically doomed.
Their only hope
was the United States
coming to save them.
And, oddly enough,
Franklin Roosevelt and the United States managed to save them. And oddly enough, Franklin Roosevelt and the United States
managed to extract major,
major concessions from Britain throughout
that period when they were in that really
difficult period in 1940
in order to be willing
to help the United Kingdom.
We were still not that happy about the war.
Oh, they gave us their military bases?
They had military bases in Newfoundland
and in Canada
and they just,
we just said,
you want our old destroyers,
like our old retro,
you know,
not very useful destroyers,
give us your land,
give us your military bases.
Whoa.
You know what,
did the king,
was it a king at the time?
Was it?
Yeah, well,
they had,
I mean,
that was also,
that was under Chamberlain,
right,
when they were starting to do,
no,
that was probably under Churchill
when they were doing Lend-Lease.
I'm not sure, I'm actually not sure sure but who was the reigning monarch at the time
King George so was George
signing over the land is no it would mean
it wasn't up to him right it's like at
that point it's still a constitutional monarchy
with technically prime minister dominating
you know I mean the king could
yeah but it was still it was still at that
point where it's like the you know the prime minister
is running the government of Britain and so it was still at that point where it's like the prime minister is running the government of Britain.
And so it was on Neville Chamberlain and Churchill to make the decision.
But, I mean, they were in a terrible position.
I mean, they found a way to stop a seaborne invasion by Hitler's Germany, but they had no hope.
I mean, they got kicked out of continental Europe, had to flee from Dunkirk.
And the miracle of Dunkirk was that they managed to evacuate,
you know,
most of their forces.
And I mean,
they had no hope of trying to recall,
you know,
reconquer continental Europe.
You know,
I mean,
and it's one thing it's funny,
like actually I've read some,
my grandfather's letters from that period when,
before the United States entered the war after Dunkirk.
And he's doing the calculations on like America entering the war.
And it just is just staggeringly awful.
Like,
because at that point also the Soviet union's not in the war against
Germany.
And so people are talking about the United States entering and it's like,
that's not,
they're not going,
there's no way that there,
we could possibly do this because it's just,
you know,
us versus Nazi Germany and we're having to invade on a seaborne invasion.
Which is crazy.
Yeah, and my grandfather's
conclusion was like, this would be insane.
We can't do it.
If you think about it, storming the beaches was
nuts. I think it would have made
no sense at all had the Soviet Union not
already been in the war and been
grinding up the German army.
Yeah, I mean, people often forget how the communists saved the war and been you know grinding up the german army yeah i mean you know people
often forget how the communists save the world and then they just malign those poor soviets
but that's actually something they have to say i know hey man we helped in world war ii and it's
like yeah but you like killed a ton of people before world war ii so doesn't make you the good
guys yeah also forgetting the fact that they were the ones who wanted to keep working with hitler
until he betrayed them yeah
right operation barbarossa yeah when the germans went into went into russia so they're like hey
wait you're not supposed to attack us i guess we have no choice yeah i think it's funny like how
many how many tens of millions of people did the u.s kill in the early 1900s was it none i think so
i mean obviously obviously people died at the hands of the united states but it wasn't tens
of millions right well you had the nazis we know what they did and you're the soviets we know they did and then here we are
like let's team up with one of them against the other it's the weird it's it's the craziest thing
to me that like they're both just extremely awful yeah but then we ended up having to fight what 60
70 years a cold war proxy wars all over the planet because the soviets were very much bad guys yep
really i mean really it comes down to uh
you know the fact that hitler declared war in the united states that like if you're looking at the
you know there was another very fascinating bit of this book that i thought was really interesting
there's that window between december 7 1941 and i think four days later where hitler declares war
in the united states and britain was freaking out because they thought we were just going to go to
war with japan and they that's where all our were just going to go to war with Japan.
And that's where all our resources were going to go.
That's where all the military investment was going to go and Britain was just going to have to hold out Nazi Germany on its own.
And then Hitler declared war on us
and all of a sudden they just breathe a sigh of relief.
Well, I mean, the U.S. was like,
we don't really need to worry about war with Japan
because we got nukes.
We need our ground forces in Europe.
Your timing is wrong.
We didn't have nukes fully developed until like 45 and that it wasn't obvious in 1941
that that was going to be like a game changer.
They had a meeting, Roosevelt, Stalin, and Churchill.
I think Stalin was involved too.
It might have just been Churchill and Roosevelt.
They decided that they were going to focus American war efforts. They all agreed on
Europe. We're not going to worry about
Japan until later. Well, I mean,
they just agreed that the United States would take the
ore in Japan and that
most of the American resources
would go. But I mean, we were still...
We built a hell of a carrier force.
We spent a lot of money and energy on Japan too.
I think strategically, Europe was
more allies and more forces to help.
If you liberate Europe, you get more assistance in the rest of the war.
Right.
I think it was ultimately a priority, I think, over Japan and the Pacific theater, but Japan still got a ton of attention.
It's crazy how much Japan lost because they went to war in this way.
Oh, it was a horrible, horrible decision.
They were doomed from the outset in terms of their industrial capacity.
I mean, you know, more nerdy stuff.
But, like, from basically, like, we dwarfed their naval production by, like, 10 to 1 just for their theater, right?
Like, we were able to also produce everything we needed for Europe and then dwarf Japan's naval production, like, 10 to 1.
And that's, it's a naval war like carriers are you know carriers are everything and we just you
know they they produce maybe like six workable carriers when we produced like 50 or 60 or
something i mean it was just i heard that they were on the verge of surrendering before we dropped
the bombs on them is that true yeah well i mean they were on the... It's not clear which caused the surrender.
Was it the Russians finally declaring
war on Japan?
And deciding to invade through Manchuria?
Or the bombs?
Because the first bomb went off and they didn't
surrender. And then Russia declared war?
I think it was... I'm not sure
of the exact timing. They may have been deciding on...
Or after the first bomb. Wow. It may have been a meeting
of the Japanese saying, like, who do we want to be occupied by yeah they might that i
think it was really once the russians invaded i think that might have been plus the bomb but the
russians invading was sort of like oh we're screwed right we lose did they organize the american
government and the russians like we're going to drop a bomb when you invade like we're going at
them with everything i don't remember if that was it i think honestly at that point russia might have been opportunistic because russia wanted a seat at the table with
japan to negotiate territorial concessions and so stalin might have been kind of opportunistic of
like oh this we think this war is probably going to wrap up soon let's get in on the game and ensure
that our territorial claims are respected let's let's bring the war to a modern conversation we
have this from politico quote we see the storm coming. U.S. struggles
to contain a deepening global
food crisis. Biden officials are
scrambling to limit the damage from fast-spreading
food shortages sparked by Russia's war
in Ukraine, but they face complex
political and logistical challenges.
I just want to say, I certainly, I've said it before,
Putin has a lot to blame for the escalating
prices. The war, it's a tit-for-tat
and then all of a sudden you get sanctions. Now Putin's saying he's not going to export agriculture
unless it's to a friendly nation. You've got the rising fertilizer costs. All of this very
much starts from this war. However, food costs were already skyrocketing well before this war
started. Food shortages were already hitting everybody well before this war started.
I definitely think the Biden admin and the media are like, oh, it's all Putin's fault.
It's like, nah, it's your fault too. too but ladies and gentlemen i hope you're prepared for the worst
because they're saying the word famine now it was the french foreign minister said global famine
the i think it was the un health food program said i don't know if he said famine but even
biden is saying famine in europe famine is the word oh boy i think it's more like famine in Europe. Famine is the word. Oh, boy. I think it's more like famine in Africa, right?
The problem being that food resources in Europe are key to providing food in Africa.
This is the surface layer.
Vladimir Putin says the poorest countries are going to be impacted very heavily by this global food shortage.
But, of course, it's going to impact us very severely.
It already is.
In Spain, they're already food rationing.
In Germany, prices are already up 20 to 50%.
So this is the funny thing.
You know, you just had a look when I said Spain was doing food rationing.
They're doing it at supermarkets.
I want you guys to imagine this.
Imagine what your life is going to be like when you go to a supermarket and you go to
get chicken and there's a sign saying only one chicken item per customer. Could you imagine that? I could because it happened two years ago. We saw all of these
food shortages and our supermarkets were doing food rationing. You'd go in and it'd say only
one beef item per customer. I went in and I was like, I want to get some boneless chicken wings.
They're called wangs or whatever because they can't call them wings. And it was like a big
sign says only two per customer. So you could get like one thing of nuggets and maybe a thing of breasts.
That's all they would allow.
Worst thing that happening in Europe now, it's happening in Spain.
Germany, as I mentioned, prices are skyrocketing.
So with the lack of fertilizer, it's not just going to be poor nations that suffer.
Oh, they're going to suffer the worst.
Yes.
But I'm very much concerned about what's going to happen here in the US.
What's going to happen to cities when these people who are entitled,
often morbidly obese,
how are they going to deal with this?
What are they going to do when they can't get the food they want?
Hopefully they'll be
looking up on the internet how to lose weight,
how to fast, because the first three or four days
of fasting is brutal.
This is different.
The COVID stuff hit our supply chain.
This is Europe's. No, it's our supply chain. This is Europe's.
No, it's our supply chain.
We get a ton of our fertilizer from Russia.
Most of our fertilizer comes from Russia.
And fertilizer costs for American farmers is up 300%.
That's fair.
I didn't realize that was a fertilizer cost.
And not to mention fuel costs too.
But it also means what will the Biden administration do for Europe?
Biden's already talked about taking our food
and giving it away to other countries.
So we are going to be strained on this one.
Now, the worrying thing is people in big cities.
LA is so massively dense.
And the people who live in these dense populated areas,
they don't make food.
You've got house after house after house.
There's maybe a small garden,
but these people aren't going to be able to sustain themselves in these big cities.
What are they going to do?
Now, I don't think the apocalypse is coming.
I don't think it's going to be like come November, you go to the supermarket and there's people punching each other for one can of beans.
Maybe at some point in the next few years, depending on how bad things can get.
But it's going to be like the way they're describing it is food costs going up 40% by the end of the year.
I had a dream. With inflation on of the year. I had a dream.
With inflation on top.
Last night I had a dream that I went.
I saw the owner of the old restaurant that I worked at in L.A.
I saw her and I was like, do you own this restaurant?
She went, yeah, and I'll get some food.
I sat down to get like a Reuben sandwich and it was $100 in the dream.
And I didn't think like.
Crazy dream.
I haven't been thinking about inflation lately.
But that just like lightning struck my brain.
Dude, we went out to get breakfast out here, and for like five people, it was like $100-something.
And we went to a diner.
We didn't go to like a crazy place.
Prices were nuts.
I mean, prices, you can even just go to the grocery store and try and buy a pound of ground beef.
It's like $7, $8, easy.
There's a little barbecue shack by us, and last year they stopped selling brisket.
And the guy said it was because it was too expensive.
He's like, there's no point trying to sell a $20 serving of brisket.
No one will buy it.
And then I'm on the hook for it, so I just won't buy it at all.
Do you guys think that...
You will eat bugs.
You will live in the pot.
You think factory farming is a sin against God?
Well, I'm not religious, so we'll start there.
That's a Seamus question.
I was going to ask Seamus next.
I'm not sure how you're defining factory farming.
I believe there are ways that are more or less ethical when it comes to how we treat animals.
I was taking the stink bugs out of my room and throwing them outside, and they were dying in the freezing.
And I asked God, am I going to burn in hell for killing these things?
And he said, if I'm going to judge you for anything, it's for factory you're gonna if you're gonna judge you for
anything it's for factory farming and it was like all of you it was the statement of like the human
race will be judged harshly for what you're doing to the animals in factory farms i believe it if
there is a god that he'd be pissed or it would be not happy with the disunity and the disorganization
of how we've corralled these things stuck them with antibiotics to overgrow them and just suck their blood.
Listen, I mean, I will agree with you to a certain extent just in a basic human moral
position that we do bad things in the name of profit to maximize how much food we produce.
And now we have very, very cheap food and very, very fat homeless people.
So there is definitely some weird disconnect going on with our food economics.
At the same time, we need mass production of food to feed people so they can live.
I'm into stem cell food.
Have you guys looked at it?
Well, I don't want to change the subject.
Maybe on the after show.
Let's operate with the assumption that we don't have it right now.
Should we continue?
I mean, and I think, you know, it's not, ultimately, it's not the chicken and beef that are making people fat, right?
Yeah, it's ho-hos.
The sugar and the carbs.
Twinkies.
Yeah, corn sugar.
The corn industry is like.
You know what it was for me?
So Michaela Peterson talks about how just switching to an all-meat diet.
It's not so much that the all-meat diet is good for you, but that it's an elimination diet.
So when I cut out carbs, I cut out bread too.
And then I've been having some food and then testing.
It turns out when i eat no
gluten my whoop recovery rate is through the roof when i have bread it drops so i'm like that's it
bread's done we had that same conversation last night yeah exactly so when you when you do an all
meat diet yeah that's good you're getting your b vitamins you're getting it but it's all the stuff
that you're cutting out the sodium benzoate the crappy uh preservatives that they don't even put
on the label that they call natural flavors you know that they get from like a dissected bug or something.
You know what?
You know what I ate today?
Out in the yard, we have chives everywhere.
Everywhere.
It's amazing.
They taste so good.
It's nuts.
You can pick them right off the ground and eat them.
I prefer to wash them, so I don't do that.
But literally, we walk outside and just grab a big thing and just tear it off and then
chop it up, threw it in some farm fresh ground beef we got from a farm down the road.
Nice.
Man, that's good eating.
I bring this up because when you look at places like L.A. or New York,
what are they going to do when food is harder to come by?
There was a movement to start growing vegetables in the berm area of L.A. streets.
I don't know if you guys saw that.
There was a guy pushing for it four or five years ago.
Oh, like the middle of the streets where they have the planters.
Yeah, between the sidewalk
and the road.
You know why that won't work?
Because people will just take it.
No, because it would fall
on the ground and rot.
And then bugs come.
Yeah, bugs and rodents.
All over the streets,
it would be a disaster.
But if you could upkeep it,
like you could,
the homeless people,
you could give them money
that's a job incentive program
to upkeep the gardens
and just have like city gardens.
Yeah, I mean,
homeless people aren't,
or anybody really that wanted a job.
The problem is not, yeah, that's Schellenberger, right?
He's really good on this.
The problem with homeless people is not the lack of a home.
I shouldn't even just say homeless.
They need or want that.
It's anybody that could use a job.
That could be a type of job is local farms, road farms,
or whatever you want to call them.
But they are going to run out of food if they don't.
I don't know.
I mean, most of those sort of, like, urban gardening type things are not,
don't make sense in terms of scale, right?
The problem, I mean, they just don't understand how big, like,
the farms that actually feed us really are.
They're massive.
And when you're talking about these small, tiny, little urban plots,
it's like a, you know.
Yeah, exactly.
And, like, the most population-dense part of the country. It's just a trivial contribution know. Yeah, exactly. And like the most population dense part of the country.
It's just a trivial contribution to the overall food supply.
I like rooftop gardens.
They're cool.
They're just not that meaningful in terms of increasing the food supply of a city.
It could like supplement your groceries, basically.
But if everyone does it.
I mean, it's a big ask, I know.
Grow your own food.
I mean, it's kind of like, duh.
Looking back and be like, they didn't used to grow their own?
So what? What the heck? I was reading one article that said people should expect to be spending
about $1,000 a month for groceries.
Do we know the average spend for a family per month on groceries?
I can look that up.
I can look it up.
Because for me, I don't have a good barometer of a high grocery cost
because when we buy groceries, we buy it for the whole office, which is like 30 people.
So we spend a lot restocking everything for everybody.
But I'm wondering what the average person is spending per month on groceries.
In 1990, it was $200 a week.
According to 2020 data from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, that works out to $412 per month is the average cost.
So at least one article I was reading was saying
expect your food costs
to be over $1,000.
I read that people
should budget an extra
$5,200 per year
for inflation
starting now.
So an extra $500 or so
bucks for food costs.
Yep.
We got this story
from USA Today.
Get ready to spend more
at the grocery store.
Food prices expected
to soar.
USDA permits.
So here's the thing.
On top of the economy being in absolute shambles and people being more panicked about their ability to access food for the first time than they've ever been in our lifetimes, this complete disaster, the Democrats decide, you know what?
On top of this, you know what we need politically?
We need to defend grooming.
Yeah, I know.
I feel like.
No, no, no, no, no.
They're like, how do we get people to stop talking about the fact they can't buy food?
Defend something unconscionable.
That'll get all of their attention off of it.
You're right.
They should be focusing on sustained local food growth.
Like as a human – it should be like a human thing that the American government should be supporting a movement to teach people how to locally grow their own food.
We have pawpaw season out here.
So end of September, October, there is so much pawpaw that it's just rotting everywhere.
What's pawpaw?
It's like if you took a banana, a mango, and an avocado and mixed it all together.
So it's this like round green fruit that grows.
It's apparently hard to cultivate because only like beetles and flies pollinate the flowers. But they're everywhere.
So I was really excited to try it for the first time.
It tastes like a banana, avocado, mango just mixed together.
So you can make bread with it.
It's all over the place.
I want to point out, man, how amazing it is when you're not in a city.
Because this is something I think city people don't realize because I didn't realize it.
And all the country people are sitting back with that straw in their mouth laughing. Because they're like, yeah, there's food everywhere.
So I go outside.
There's chives.
We take the chives.
It makes our food taste good.
Then we have the berry season where there's blackberries and wine berries everywhere.
You go outside for 10 minutes and you've got like two pounds of fresh berries.
And it's amazing.
You can do everything with it.
It's just delicious.
Obviously, you need more than that.
But it's crazy growing up in a city and not realizing you can just eat stuff outside.
It's just nuts.
People in cities aren't going to be able to do this.
And also people in cities, unfortunately, don't know where their food comes from.
And I think this is why we have folks who unfortunately think that a small garden like that can sustain their city or make a significant dent here.
There was a hilarious article.
It was actually a letter to the editor,
and I've quoted it here before on the show, but somebody basically wrote to their newspaper
saying that it was offensive that they printed an article which discussed hunting because people
should just be getting their food from the grocery store where no animals are harmed.
Or I've mentioned how I got in an argument with a guy during the primaries when I was talking about
how UBI would disrupt the economy
and with the shortages eventually there's not going to be
any milk at the grocery store and some guy
was like, what do you mean? You just go to the grocery store to get the milk.
It's just there. And then I was like, you realize
it's bottled and sent there, right?
It's just at the grocery store. What do you mean?
These people genuinely
don't realize. Magic. No, they're dumb.
Well, the dairy is harvested.
It's sent to various processing plants
for a variety of things.
Cream, half and half, sour cream, yogurt, milk,
all this stuff, it has to get separated out, right?
Homogenization process.
Then it goes to bottling and packaging plants.
Then it goes to warehouse distribution.
Then it goes to stores.
Yeah, well, and also, I mean,
people are going to point to Russia.
The political leaders are obviously, the main reason this is happening is because they decided to shut down the supply chain.
Back in 2020, there were instances where there were certain foods that we had shortages of,
even though that particular food didn't have a hiccup in its production or quite as much of a hiccup to lead to the proportional shortage that we were seeing.
Because the government, even though they declared food production to be essential,
declared the production of items that were required for the packaging of that food to be non-essential.
So the food was produced, but it could just never get to the grocery stores.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah.
I've been working on this company called Eden Grow Systems that's developing.
They have some NASA technology, and you can basically grow indoors.
And the idea is four of these towers can sustain one person indefinitely.
But I don't know if a if a capitalist movement like buy this product i'm about to start using it so i'm really
excited to see the value like you can grow eggplants and stuff um you you've got to have
your own guard at the very least you know when i lived in new york there was no way to have a
garden it was impossible i could have a garden box with maybe one plant and maybe have like a
tomato but that's that's, but that's nothing.
That's why I'm like, you know what?
People who live in the cities, you do your thing.
Look at this story we got from Raw Story.
Iowa's bird flu death toll tops 13 million.
This is – there's a pandemic happening among chickens.
But it means eggs will be more expensive.
It means chicken meat is going to be harder to come by.
And we already saw the chicken wing shortage during the pandemic.
Likely to happen again, especially with the global food shortages that are coming.
That's why I brought up stem cell meat.
I believe that we're headed towards a future where we don't eat farm animals like this.
It's going to be really, really weird.
I'm curious about this.
So obviously we have a picture of a chicken here, which creates the mental connection that the birds dying from this are livestock.
But how are they getting this 13 million number? Is it chickens that are dying? here which creates the mental connection that the birds dying from this are livestock but how
are they getting this 13 million number is it chickens that are dying is it it's chickens that
are dying it's it's i believe it's specifically okay okay poultry uh poultry flocks in iowa this
has been big news so we've actually we've been warned just to make sure we quarantine any
chickens we get outside because we have we have chickens. We have like 50 now because we bred a whole bunch.
And so we were told by a breeder, like, any chickens you get, keep them separated for 30 days,
which is kind of a normal thing because you don't want to spread diseases or whatever.
But right now it's fairly serious.
We got chickens.
Chickens lay eggs all the time.
It's fantastic.
We got too many eggs, too many.
We had in like one week we had 74 eggs.
I don't even know.
We just made a whole bunch of eggs. It was great. Deviled eggs. Those were awesome. Yeah, that was great. I got to start eating more eggs. had too many eggs too many we had in like one week we had 74 eggs i don't even know we just
made a whole bunch of those great deviled eggs so yeah those were all oh man yeah that was great i
gotta start eating my eggs yeah i wonder what percentage this is of the the total livestock
of chickens that we have in the country it's just a lot no i mean i agree it's frightening
i'm just saying it's it's things like this that are all kind of happening around the same time
that are like you pay attention to this stuff.
You know, in 2015, a deadly bird flu outbreak resulted in 32 million birds in Iowa getting culled.
So they say Iowa's affected birds this year account for 59% of the country's current 22.4 million total, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture data.
You know what?
Just about 60% of our chickens.
This is also an indication of the danger of centralized farming.
When you have one spot. Yes, buy chickens.
Build your own chicken city.
And have them far away from each other so that if one little batch gets ill, that's okay.
Are you saying the chickens need to social distance?
You should see definitely.
They might need our help.
You should see the way they call these chickens.
If you've never seen a video of them calling chickens, it's freaking horrific.
I'm not going to even talk about it on air
because it's so disturbing.
But it involves suffocation.
So I guess I did talk about it on air.
I just feel for these animals, man.
Look in their eyes. They are not NPCs.
There's something going on there. Humans eat meat.
I get it. And I'm not saying we shouldn't,
but there are other ways to derive your meat than
growing and killing something
for it. I know that's been the way that we've been doing it for for ever i think that's just like naivety bro i don't i'm
not making it just it's not like it's not a fantasy there's technology backing it up i i always i
always like the way the native americans would go about it you know you kill the animal and then
you would basically like have some sort of prayer of like what you are getting from this creature
that you whose life you've taken Like there's like respect to life,
but recognizing that we humans,
we survive and we eat meat.
And I'm sorry,
man.
I genuinely,
I think humans eat meat.
That's it.
Like there's a lot of people who are like humans actually don't eat meat.
I think it was mostly fish,
but humans eat meat.
Yeah.
It's less about the meat,
more about the suffering and the sickness that comes from factory farm that
I'm concerned.
And I will say this.
There is something about growing, cultivating, or even hunting your own food.
I don't do it often, but I have gone hunting.
And when you see the cost, when you actually kill an animal in order to get food from it, you don't waste it.
You're way less likely to waste food.
We waste food all the time because we just go to the grocery store and get it, and we don't even have to consider the fact that an animal died for it.
But you understand inherently there's this lack of gratitude.
There's this disrespect in wasting food that most people never acknowledge.
Thank you.
When we go out to eat, so much food gets wasted.
And what do you do?
Because I'm not talking about like you order a steak and half of it.
You're just like, I'm not eating half that steak ever again.
I mean like a couple bites here and there.
And that really, really adds up.
If we were actually in like a famine situation, nothing would be wasted.
You'd be boiling tree bark if you were starving.
Well, I mean it's just like a different – I mean it would completely change the culture, right?
Like you read about like people who grew up in the Great Depression just hoarding like just – and not just food, right?
Stuff. Because it's like, well, you never know how you might need to use this. Like you read about like people who grew up in the Great Depression just hoarding like just and not just food, right?
Stuff because it's like, well, you never know how you might need to use this.
And it's just much more common.
When I was 18, I was hanging out with my grandpa.
And I made a peanut butter and jelly sandwich with his bread.
And then I saw there was mold on the bread.
And then I was like, ah, I'm not going to eat it.
And he's like, why not?
And I was like, there's mold on it. And he goes, you know, during the depression.
And then he grabs it and he just like, ah, and just eats the whole thing.
And I was like, you can at least take the mold off.
He didn't care.
You get sick from that, man.
I don't know.
What kind of mold was it?
Do you remember?
It was blue.
I don't know.
Blue mold.
Because black mold is very dangerous.
Blue, green, yellow.
I think penicillin is white mold.
Yeah, but mold is still bad.
Don't want to eat it.
But his point was like, during the depression, they would eat whatever they could.
Eat what you can get.
I hear stories about the Depression.
I don't think we've seen anything like that.
No.
No matter how bad things have gotten.
No.
No.
I mean, it's doubtful that we would, honestly.
Like there's a level of, I don't know, just like how developed our economy is it's really hard to imagine something
i mean we forget how relatively undeveloped things were in that period in large portions of the
country um people need to realize the these systems can be knocked down very easily i mean
you mean you can screw them up for a longer period i don't know i guess i'm more of an
optimist on than you guys on that front like i just you know you you read about what things were really like in the great depression and not just
and not just i'm talking about like rural areas like rural electrification was still like not
really a thing you know um you know read i think a really good book if anybody wants to read about
this is actually the first series in the series of biographies of lyndon johnson because lyndon
johnson grew up in hill country tex Country, Texas, and it was poor.
I mean, what we would consider worse than thoroughbore poverty, poor then.
And you realize how far things have come in rural areas, especially in terms of basic infrastructure.
Clean water.
Clean water is a huge part of it.
South America, you could see I went down there and I was helping clean the Amazon out,
and we were with these tribes.
It wasn't really tribes. They were just in
Berlin and Iquitos and they didn't know
that poop water was bad for you. So they'd defecate
in the water and then drink it and they'd distend
their stomachs and not only was the
education lacking, so yes, clean water but also
education. We need to maintain access to at least
maybe electricity and internet so that we can continue
to educate kids
properly, I think.
Maybe we need some kind of a way
to just get things to go back to baseline
so that we can kind of figure out
how much food people really need.
Yeah, but you're talking about like a reset.
Yeah, a great reset.
Some kind of big resetting of the whole global system.
It would really be great if nobody owned anything for that.
I would be happy.
It would be much easier to move things around.
You should be happy. I would be happy. It would be much easier to move things around. You should be happy.
I would be happy.
You could spin up a corporation maybe that surrounds yourself,
that's surrounded around that idea.
Maybe we can do some kind of organization about global economics,
have a forum.
I was just thinking that.
Oh, my goodness.
Yes.
A world forum on economics.
A world forum on economics.
The world forum on economics. I don't know. I think it's kind of ridiculous. WFE. A World Forum on Economics. The World Forum on Economics.
I don't know.
I think it's kind of ridiculous.
WFE.
That's a great idea.
Dude, you are on to something.
I'm rolling.
I'm rolling a 20.
Roll that dice.
Roll the 20 dice.
I got a 59.
Not bad.
That's one of the worst numbers, boring numbers I could have rolled right there.
I want to make sure that we saw shortages.
We saw prices increase.
I've been going to the grocery store, and the prices have definitely been going way up consistently and very, very quickly.
And so my concern is, are we seeing from the media and the Biden administration fear-mongering?
I don't know why they would want to do that right now, considering elections are coming up.
Are people experiencing normalcy bias and optimism bias?
Meaning it can't happen or something like that
will never happen right the optimism bias is like no that couldn't happen and normalcy is like well
that's never happened so everything's going to stay the same and i'm not gonna have to worry
about it or are we going to see something dramatic like we've not seen in a long time like ground war
in europe fertilizer shortages i think at the very least we should expect to see africa starvation is going to
get nuts i'm glad that biden said the word famine because it's people like my parents that need to
hear it from the authority to really start taking it seriously maybe they'll buy extra beans or
something we need peace in russia and ukraine geez i don't know like that should there's a lot of
people who want to keep the war going to drain r as though it's like a Cold War and we need to do – you know, we need to just drain them out in Afghanistan.
Right?
No, no, no, no.
We need peace.
We want peace between Russia and Ukraine.
Take it when you can get it because in a war, if something changes with the leadership one day, there's no – that's off the table now.
Like, if some psycho – not that Putin's not – I'm not saying he's a psycho, but some real, genuine psycho, like if Putin gets assassinated and some crazy oligarch gets a hold, you may never see an option for peace again.
I think once we have the peace, everyone should just not own anything and be happy.
Yeah, I would say so.
I mean, yeah, absolutely.
And then there's like someone who tuned into the show for the first time.
I hear a lot of good things about this Tim Pool guy.
I don't want to watch this show ever again.
All right, let's pull up these super chats.
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Ian goes to bed, and he's like, we didn't get enough likes, man.
He cries, and then we've got to deal with it.
It takes half an hour.
And it keeps everyone up, too.
You can hear me crying?
Yeah, you cry louder through the whole night, bro.
I'm sorry.
I thought my walls were sunburned.
No, they're not that.
Seamus gets angry.
I get mad.
Just hitting people.
Stop!
I start screaming and punching the walls.
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Let's see what we got here. Raymond G.
Stanley Jr. says NYC Adams
is spending tax money on billboards
in Florida. Really?
What about?
To move people back.
Yeah, just trying to bring people back.
Yep.
Yeah.
You should go stand there with a boom box, man.
Come back to me.
Dude, states are competing
for citizens.
I've never seen this before.
Well, they're losing them.
All right, Baileyan says,
Tim, you should watch
Nick Ricada's breakdown
of the Chad Reed shooting
because you missed a lot
due to the media
leaving out a lot of context.
I can believe that for sure.
I'm sure Ricakeda went through
the actual paperwork and legal
filings and stuff like that.
All right. Crayson says,
if you're looking for a word to describe the left and
the West in general by this point, look
to your family pet. The word is simple.
Domesticated. Yes.
I agree. I think that we
are being domesticated. We are being told to be children
permanently. Well, speak for yourself.
I'm not.
You're wild.
Well, I mean.
Everyone here.
I'm a wild man.
I punch the wall when Ian cries.
That's right.
That's right.
Where are the likes?
And then I'm like, David, stop.
If you guys don't leave likes and I end up having to punch the wall again, I'm not going
to be able to finish tomorrow's cartoon because my hand's going to be broken.
So please like the video.
All right.
Nanad Sredjic
says love when will is on but i need to know his thoughts on star trek the malice episode black
black pilled me on him well i don't i don't really watch star trek so sorry uh is that how did how
did it black fill me is this like suddenly is it a podcast they did with him where i said i don't
really know much about star trek or i'm more of a star wars person i don't know why why they're
concerned about you is michael malice was saying Star Trek was just like for nerds
and he didn't like it,
which is weird because he's such a big DC guy.
That's what it is.
First, I just want to clarify too,
a nerd is a reference to academia
and a geek is a reference to fandom.
And you know the difference.
Absolutely, of course.
I like...
Because, you know...
Because you're a geek.
I like spy novels.
Oh, you're both.
And spy movies.
So read John Le Carre and watch stuff like The Spy Who Came in from the Cold and Tinker Taylor Soldier Spy.
You won't regret it.
All right.
Awesome Archivist says, is it so hard to have a hobby?
Why do so many link purpose to what society demands of you?
Ultimately, these physically intangible concepts SJWs
obsess over do not exist. Sincerely, a 22-year-old.
Well, they need a religion substitute.
That's what they need.
They need a religion substitute.
I think Mark Andresen maybe said
something smart today where he's like, the best way to have
a religion indoctrinated in schools
is to just not call it a religion, and then all of a sudden
you can do it. Andrew L. says, Tim,
in your monologue today,
you mentioned having a deep freezer and how the food could last forever.
What about an extended power outage?
So we have a hamster that runs in a wheel and it charges a generator.
It's a big hamster.
We spent decades doing genetic engineering to make a big enough hamster to power a deep freezer,
and we got it.
His name's Melvin.
Well done.
Melvin.
Melvin, yeah.
So we have here, that is true facts.
There is an issue if the power goes out and it has.
It's a deep freezer so it will last for a decent amount of time without thawing out.
And there are things you can do to check, like you put a piece of ice in it and then
if you come back and you get a flat disk of ice, you know that it melted and refroze.
But we are getting solar installed.
And at the new facility, we have an obscene amount of solar power because we want to be independent, which means we're going to have satellite internet.
We're going to have solar power.
We have an insane amount of batteries.
So the whole facility can be powered for like a week or longer if there's no sun at all.
Like let's say there's just like storms for a week straight and the power goes out.
We will still have power for, like, a week.
And then we have well water, obviously, and heavy-duty filtration systems.
So, yeah.
Not because I think that the world will end, but because I am concerned that sometimes
snowstorms hit and then the power goes out and you should just be able to take care of
yourself.
Just thinking, could we cover that deep freezer with blankets if the power were to go out to hold the cold inside?
It's a deep freezer.
It's already insulated.
So there's no more added insulation we could add to help it?
I don't.
I'm sure you could put in a vacuum or something.
I don't know.
Considering that it's insulated, when we had a fuse go out and it was out for a while, everything was still deeply frozen.
I mean, when you take meat out of the deep freezer, it's hard to thaw.
I guess we just put a lock on it so if the power goes out, it locks.
You don't want fools going in there.
No, we just plug it.
We have a bunch of these batteries.
You can't see them, but they're all over the studio.
They're these huge batteries.
What are they called?
EF Delta?
Is that what it's called?
Those are great.
Yeah, they're fantastic.
And we were doing a show once when the power went out.
And then we have the tech crew come and they plug all these things in,
and then we have a really big one too.
So we have backup power for days.
All right.
Roger Schech-Snyder says,
Love Seamus and Freedom Tunes.
Thank you so much.
Don't we all?
Don't we all?
I'm so glad to hear that.
Well, for those of you who are not familiar with who this Seamus is
or what Freedom Tunes are,
go over to Freedom Tunes, youtube.com
slash Freedom Tunes. Hit subscribe. Hit the
bell. We're uploading a cartoon tomorrow. I love you
so much. Cigars and
Sig Arms says, can we just go back to
the days where He-Man and Orko warned
kids about the things groomers would
do to children and told them to tell their
parents or police officer if it happened to them?
Deeply homophobic cartoons.
They would be like, don't tell your parents what we're doing.
Exactly.
If they made it today.
If someone talks, I mean, I would love to do that.
I think it's important for kids to know if someone touches you in a place that you're not comfortable,
that you scream and you push them away.
That's what my parents taught me.
And, of course, if an adult says anything to you that they tell you not to repeat to your parents, you immediately go and repeat it to your parents.
Yes.
Donald T. says Groundhog Day, but the cast castle has to get Ian the right cake to break the time loop.
That was some good acting, Ian.
You had me fooled for a minute.
Oh, did they release that today?
That was up a couple days ago.
That was up a couple days ago.
It was funny.
So basically, like, Ian comes down, and there's a cake, and then he gets mad.
The cake is a lie.
But then Ian storms off, and then Seamus is like, I can't believe we thought he'd liked it.
Let's try again.
Pulls out another cake, goes, hey, Ian, and Ian walks down all happy like nothing happened.
Brilliantly directed by Seamus Cogman.
Why, thank you.
Like, I wasn't the only one.
A lot of talented people involved with this shoot.
Matthew Hammond says, can we get North Carolina Lieutenant Governor Mark Robison on the show? He recently had to call
out a political cartoon in a local newspaper
depicting him a black
man in a Klan outfit that was drawn
by an eighth grade social studies teacher.
Wow. Dude, that video, he is, that guy's
hilarious. He did that whole speech of like a
prophet where he's like
something like, we need to start teaching
people, children to read and not teach them how to
go to hell.
Also, I mean, I'd be done now I'm on the show. I just want to mention this as someone Something like, we need to start teaching people to read and not teach them how to go to hell. That's hilarious.
I mean, I'd be down to have him on the show.
I just want to mention this.
As someone who does make political cartoons, albeit animated ones,
the person I don't like wearing a Klan's hood is the laziest, most overused trope in political cartooning.
It doesn't shock me.
What did it say?
It was an eighth grader who drew this? Of course.
No, it was an 8th grade teacher. Oh, it was an 8th grade teacher.
Wow. Okay, even better.
The cognitive faculties of an 8th grader.
Apparently.
Alright.
Reynigan says,
if public schools had a system to let kids get baptized,
take communion, and go through confirmation
with protocols to hide
this from parents, they would call it religious grooming in a heartbeat.
Absolutely.
Yes.
That is true.
Yep.
Yes.
All right.
Dudley Deplorable says,
back in the 50s and 60s,
we had a grooming teacher.
His activities were known.
Nothing was done.
Children taught children to practice themselves.
Had to edit to get past the AI.
Wow.
Morgan H says, the left says you hate gays because they are used to slinging insults saying racist homophobes etc the right flinched but they're not
flinching anymore well there you go just bill says i listened almost daily so i thought i should
contribute hey thanks very much just bill thank you logan angel, Have you guys heard about Oregon's
IP 13?
It would make basically anything
involving animals illegal, and it's not getting enough
attention. It's disguised as an
anti-animal abuse bill. I heard it was about
hunting. I don't know much about it.
They don't want you to have your own animals.
I wouldn't trust the Oregon legislature
over everything, so I assume any of their bills are bad.
That's just the lefty legislature
Alexander
Roscoe says at 17
in high school I came out to my woke teacher
one night she took me across state lines
from New Jersey to Philadelphia's
gayborhood to show me gay culture
when we got back I was told not to tell
my parents creepy
that is extremely creepy I hope you told them
seriously if that happened yeah another cat says cats don't mind grooming told not to tell my parents. Creepy. I hope you did tell them. That is extremely creepy. I hope you told them. That's wild. Seriously.
If that happened, yeah, that's horrifying.
Another cat says, cats don't mind grooming.
That's what I'm talking about. They groom themselves.
Yeah. They're good at it.
Some dogs are not fans of getting groomed.
You know.
Alright, what do we got here?
Dolphin Seaweed says, who pooed in Ian's
cereal this morning? That man seems like he needs a hug
i am i i completely agree with you i don't see this as a joke or funny and the right is reacting
not being proactive at all was did you do something in about your i have been in kind
of a tense mood today thanks for calling that out um yeah just in general what is this smile
more says ian is spot on.
Bill Gates wanted to use haptic feedback,
sensors, iris scanning as part of Common Core.
Parents found out and fought like hell
to make sure it did not happen.
Good job.
Get ready to fight over and over and over and over again
as they continue to attempt to
indoctrinate humans into the metaverse.
In 10 years,
the LGBTQ Communist Republican Party
is going to be like, it's a slippery slope with the
metaverse and we don't agree to it then 10 years later it's going to be the metaverse republicans
arguing in hyper speed metaverse language about some other you'll have nine-year-olds that are
making more money than their parents and then they'll start donating to campaigns and the
politicians are going to be given over to these metaversions.
Lunar Transport says, does all this talk of conversion and grooming mean that homosexuality is a learned behavior?
Wasn't it the talking point that you are born that way?
I think there is a dissonance of messaging here.
Yeah, that's been obvious for the past several years. I mean, isn't it like a little, I mean, there's a nature component and a nurture component.
That's my understanding.
I think so.
Well, now they're saying, many leftists are saying, not all of them, but a lot of them,
that if you are attracted to women but won't sleep with a trans woman, you're transphobic.
Yeah.
So like Jazz Jennings' brother recently came out and said that he is heterosexual,
but because trans women are women, he would be attracted to them.
And I'm just like, doesn't that mean you're bisexual?
Exactly.
I don't understand why there's an aversion of bisexual people to claim they're not.
They're just heterosexual.
I still – I ask this question often.
Like, what makes a person gay?
Is it the actual act of sex with someone of the same sex? Or is it the desire without ever doing the action?
Depends on who you ask.
Because I've been told by friends of mine who are gay that it's the emotional connection they have.
That's what I feel like it would be.
Yeah, because they're people who are extremely... What's the right word?
Just like going to dungeons and doing crazy things with weird crazy like if a
guy's dressed up like a horse and like another guy is like a fairy godmother you know you what
do you what do you what are you doing and so their their view of things is it's about emotional
connection but if that's the case like i i don't that that doesn't make sense because bisexual
implies it is sexual. What sexual orientation is
being sexually attracted to fairy godmothers?
They'll
make one up. I don't know.
You need a new color on the flag.
If you Google it right now, I bet you find it.
Fairy godmothers.
They watch
Cinderella and they just have it
pause in that one scene with the fairy godmother.
Well, hey man. Magic file or something. in that one scene with the fairy godmother. Well, hey, man.
A magic file or something?
People that get down with wizards?
Fairy godmother.
Magitophile.
They hire someone to dress up like Albus Dumbledore?
Harry Potter,
you're a wizard.
All right, all right, all right.
FreemanDyFree says,
a 4chan user years ago,
accurately described in great detail how the alphabet community
would be used to push Tito acceptance.
I have the screenshots, and they're spot on.
Interestingly, there was a bunch of people trying to push LGBTP.
Yes.
And the left claimed it was a hoax campaign.
But these people are serious.
They've been serious.
They call themselves M. Minor attracted persons.
There was a Slate article, right?
Slate published an article by a map, quote unquote, a pedophile being like, actually, you know, it's just a sexual orientation.
Yeah, exactly.
And this goes without saying, all right, but we have this Republican using the term latinx.
No one ever used the term map unironically in fact like don't
even use it ironically just call them pedophiles right all right let's read some more latter-day
gamer says f my state and the rhinos that rule it cox literally blindsided the state no history of
this kind of stuff before he became governor well there, there it is. You know, now he's using his pronouns.
That's why I don't trust the Republican Party.
Because unless, you know, even if you do primary people,
you don't know who you're going to get.
You can trust that they're going to be good
and they're going to do all the right things.
And as soon as they get in office, there you go.
Keep voting them out.
They keep coming in.
Shane Parr says, Tim is a father of four children.
I just have to say that I am with you 100%.
If people don't start standing up for their values,
they're going to lose their kids and jobs anyway.
Good people can't remain silent.
Let's elaborate on that.
When I ask the question,
you're a father with children,
you're a mother with children.
Would you rather have a job
knowing that your child is being groomed
eight hours a day,
but at least you have money
and you're secure, or be homeless with your child not knowing where your child is being groomed eight hours a day, but at least you have money and you're secure,
or be homeless with your child, not knowing where your food comes from.
Now, let's say you opt for I'm okay with my job and these people grooming my kids.
Are you then okay when someone comes to you and they have your kid in a child drag show,
and when you complain, child services comes and takes your child from you?
That's what happens if you wait around.
If you don't take action, someone else is going to take it for you.
Exactly.
It's not as if the left wins one of these.
They further degrade our culture and then go, we're done.
We're done.
We're just going to stop there.
Things are bad enough.
We won't make it worse.
We won't restrict your rights as a parent more so.
You gave us what we wanted.
No, it's only going to get worse.
All right.
Donnie Ronald says, fellow Utah in here, Mormons and rapid growth is what's wrong with Utah.
There is a lot of business here in
Utah, and unfortunately, it's attracting snakes.
Mormons? They're
religious, though. Wouldn't they push back?
I mean, Mormons,
that's the foundation of Utah
is the Mormon church. It's just
deeply embedded in
the entire upper crust.
That's where the Mormons went
with Joseph Smith.
They went to Salt Lake City.
Gino Benedetto says,
I'm a Navy vet going to school for engineering.
On the back of my truck is written,
what country is this?
And why are the people all ugly?
I don't get a lot of hate messages,
but it's hilarious to me.
Oh, man.
YouTube's not going to like that one.
That's funny.
All right.
Let's see.
Woosh says, Utah on here.
The state is very red, but Salt Lake City, Provo is aggressively left.
Check r slash Utah.
90% of it is absolute vitriol against any conservative.
And Provo is where that BLM guy shot the driver for no reason.
You remember that?
No.
Someone was driving down the street, and BLM was running through the streets,
and then some guy just ran up to the passenger side window and then put a bullet in the driver.
I don't ask.
I have no idea why, man.
Apparently, two men were arrested in that, apparently.
Yeah.
Going to the desert.com.
Deseret.com.
Seriously, JK says, Tim, tell us about your sweet, sweet Flash animations, please.
There's not really much to tell I made a video game once where it was like
a guy running through a factory and that
was it there was no real story to it and
then there was like I made metal things
that would like you know slam down and
you had to like run under them and then
there are these little little wind-up
guys like that munched like I get to
jump over him and that was about it. Once you collect all the
coins, the door would open and you could go to the next level.
It was a pretty crummy game.
Then I just would copy and paste the levels and move
stuff around. That's basically
it. I made websites
though. I made a few Flash websites
for some of my friends and for
me. It was about it.
Flash was fun. Motion
Tween back in flash 4 yeah yeah
dang i missed flash 4 i i started with flash 3 got a used copy of it on ebay
flash man good software but i was i started making videos because i was skateboarding so
then i started doing video editing and stuff so there you go right all right let's grab some more let's grab some more superchats
prometheus says drop pronouns entirely i wonder if the daily wire would consider making anime
potentially a biblical anime they should it's like two points well there here's what actually
i think should be like we should just have a general agreement so so the left does this thing
where they're like gender is a social construction and they're saying it as though that this novel
insight it's like no gender you literally invented the concept as a social
construction right like it it was if you go back to the 1920s and how the word gender was used it
was only used in relation to like pronouns and language right like uh or gender gender terms
like how in romance languages like there's uh you know l and la for the prefix or whatever
like you invented it as a social
construction so like why don't we just realize that maybe we don't need to use pronouns on the
basis of a social construction and can said use it on the basis of biological reality and thus
always refer to people by their biological sex what if i just call everyone it you know like
when like ian's like hey can you hand me that i'll be like will it's asking for
so i want to mention this not only is gender identity an invented term a social construct
that the left put forward to try to blur the lines between the sexes it was coined by dr john
money i'm not sure if you guys are familiar with his identity was i know the word gender the word
gender identity uh and gender role and sexual orientation were all coined by Dr. John Mudd.
He's that guy who tortured those two kids into killing themselves.
Yes, yes.
So basically there was a botched circumcision that occurred, and there were twins.
There was a botched circumcision on one of them.
He encouraged the parents to raise the child who had undergone the botched circumcision as a girl
and said that he was going to remove this child's genitals he did they tried to raise the the child as a girl he always knew that there was something
wrong with him always understood he was a boy on some level john money made mlny and he forced them
to engage in sexual behavior as children and he snapped pictures of it this guy was just a
child sex abuser he was a pedophile he's the person who coined the terms gender identity
and gender both those individuals ended up killing themselves.
Yes. Whoa. Yes.
And that's where that comes from.
All right. Just so you know.
Carl Covert says Greg Abbott is busing
undocumented immigrants to
D.C. He signed the executive order today.
But they have to fly. But they have to
volunteer. Yeah, if they volunteer to go.
Okay. Yeah, I was thinking, we talked about this before the
show, that maybe it's, if people were like coyote to cross the border this is a way for them to be
like i want to go back because they do have to volunteer to get sent insert name here says ian
sf is not norcal that dumpster is north la norcal starts directly north of it and 70 percent of
california's water originates in the north while 80% of the demand is in the south. The state steals our water.
We need a separation.
State of Jefferson,
Southern Oregon and like
North Northern California. You know, they've talked
about diverting the delta
to bring water down south to
Southern California. And I'm kind of just like
for a while, I was like, no, no, you can't do that. It'll destroy
the bay. And now I'm like, oh, no.
Oh, wait. It'll destroy the bay. There's I'm like, oh, no. Oh, wait.
It'll destroy the bay.
There's a whole other issue with the Delta smelt.
It's like an environmental issue.
They have to flush tons of fresh water through the San Joaquin Delta.
That's a BS argument.
I went down there.
I talked to a bunch of people.
I think that's just some emotional defense.
The reality is that if we actually diverted the delta water to the south for freshwater use,
it would cause saltwater to flood into the bay, and that would destroy a lot of the farms in the bay area.
So that's why you can't do it.
That's why I'm like, oh, no.
Oh, they're freshwater.
Because it's brackish because it's freshwater and seawater.
All right.
Tim Miners says, split California in half, east and west.
The eastern half can be absorbed into Arizona and Nevada.
Problem solved.
Agreed.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Terrible idea.
Terrible idea.
No, its own state, the eastern part, which is a hard red state.
Why would we give up the creation of a red state?
That's a terrible idea.
Two more Republican senators.
It would be a powerful state with all those farms.
Yeah.
Someone said, Tim, people attracted to fairy godparents
is a croaker, crocker
sexual.
Fairy godparents!
Tim was right.
I'm not getting the joke.
Fairy godparents!
You remember Fairly Oddparents?
No, no, I gotta look this up.
It was a cartoon in the
2000s.
There were some memes that came out of that.
The If I Had One meme, where the dad's pointing at the nothing.
I sent that to YouTube.
So YouTube, this was a while ago, back when that meme was in vogue,
YouTube hadn't sent me a 1,000 subscriber plaque,
and I'd already had like 200,000 subs at this point.
So I sent them a meme of that, except it was,
this is where I put my subscriber plaque.
And they responded to me.
They're like, we're sorry.
Let's talk to you about getting your subscriber play because it actually
did so it worked all right isaac luck says tim i would 100 support your coffee enterprise but
only if you call it tim cafe or the coffee beanie if you need drink ideas i'd be happy to help
i was thinking i have some really good ideas for drink ideas. I was thinking like latte, cappuccino. That's a good one.
Ice latte.
Americano.
Get this.
Mocha.
Mocha?
No frills.
Okay, I'm going to open a sandwich shop, and it's going to have sandwich.
That's it.
Have you ever tried a breve?
I feel like you would love it.
A breve.
What's that made of?
A breve is instead of using milk, they use either half and half or heavy cream.
Yes, I've had that before.
Awesome.
Wow.
Yeah, cream is good. cream. Yes, I've had that before. Wow. Cream is good.
Yeah.
Yes, it is.
My whole life I thought that it was the sour cream that was making me fat at Taco Bell.
When it turned out, it was the 64-ounce sodas I was drinking.
And so I thought cream was dangerous.
And now recently I'm just learning to love it.
I'm going to open a sandwich shop, and you're going to have like three meats, lettuce, tomato, onion, cheese, mayo, mustard.
And you pick between that.
It'll be easier to source the stuff.
That's for sure. Keep it simple. Super simple, super fast. You come in, you get a sandwich, you eat the food, cheese, mayo, mustard. And you pick between that. It'll be easier to source the stuff. That's for sure.
Keep it simple.
Super simple.
Super fast.
You come in.
You get a sandwich.
You eat the food.
You get out of there.
No chit chat.
No nonsense.
No frilly garbage on the walls.
It'll be very simple.
Real men coming in saying, I want a sandwich.
Turkey.
Do it.
Done.
Boom.
Here you go.
Fresh made bread.
Yeah.
No games.
Flour and water.
Nothing else.
Yes.
Nothing else. Maybe a man man sandwich that would be terrible
yeah i'm interested in getting different types of creams for the coffee maybe an almond cream
a coconut cream no those are frills yeah all the drink cow you come to my coffee shop we have heavy
cream what about the lactose intolerant no sorry get out do a little peanut butter actually i
actually do feel like not tolerated in this house because i was looking for food and literally
everything is like some sort of like dairy product.
Yeah.
No, we put extra lactose in everything.
We got salami downstairs.
You can have that.
I can't eat salami.
That's true.
I found some peanuts.
That was my big snack.
We've got, in terms of snacks, not everything is dairy.
Well, I guess the protein bars are dairy.
Yeah.
No, not the outright ones.
I don't think those are dairy.
No, those are dairy.
I looked at them.
They all have like...
I just need some like Clif Bars or something next time.
Because everything's made of protein, so it's all cheese.
Yeah, it's all like the keto stuff.
All the keto stuff is just dairy.
Have you been vegan lately?
We have bacon.
No, no.
I mean, I just...
I'm meat and...
But no dairy.
We have individually wrapped bacon.
Oh, I saw those.
They're great.
Yeah, really good.
I like the spicy one.
Spicy one's good.
Yeah, super good. Let's read some more Super Chats. Okay, let saw those. They're great. Yeah, really good. I like the spicy one. The spicy one's good. Yeah, super good.
Let's read some more Super Chats.
Okay, let's see.
Let's grab a Super Chat here.
A Sim Solution says,
Tim, the water issue with California farmers
having all the water stolen for L.A. is nothing new.
It was a central point in the 1974 film noir Chinatown,
starring Jack Nicholson, set in the late 1930s.
Really?
That is correct.
What was it about?
Chinatown's like, I mean, I forget the details of the plot, but it's sort of investigating this sort of corruption.
Like a private investigator is Jack Nicholson's character, and he's investigating this corruption slash murder,
and a big chunk of the drama revolves around water rights in California.
Nugget says, I was born in Zimbabwe, 1991.
They took land from white people,
divided it up, and gave it to Africans. Then everyone
starved because nobody knew how to farm.
That's what happens with communism.
They were like, the people should own
the land! Yay!
Get rid of the farmer! Yay!
Is anybody going to have a farm? No!
And then you die.
Or they're like, quick quick everyone melt down your tools
to make pig iron yeah they want to do that in south africa too land reform oh yeah yeah that's
been a that's that's south africa man haven't like farmers been getting attacked in mass in
south africa the depends on who you ask the corporate press is like that's not happening
so it probably is yeah it's not happening but uh what the media says is all
farmers are being attacked but they were saying it was like the white colonial farmers that were
being attacked that's the story there's there's there's a place in south africa this was from
lauren southern's documentary where it's like all white and like white only or something it's crazy
like that something like that still exists and it's like a weird pocket suburban town far away
from everything i think they almost like they applied to be like a minority protected status
or something like that in south africa i remember i remember reading about that place it was yeah
very weird all right let's grab some more super chats uh let's see what does it say
mr messenger message writer says you say that the cities will be worse for food shortages
you have no idea.
Many West Coast cities have thousands of people
living in 100-square-foot apartments
which have no storage, no kitchen.
They must leave to get food to eat.
Oh, yeah, The Bachelors.
When I lived in L.A.
and I was trying to find a place to live,
I ended up living with a friend of mine in a studio,
and it was a couple hundred.
It was like 500 square feet maybe, and so it was just a studio, but it was a couple hundred it was it was it was like 500 square feet maybe
and so it was just a studio but it had a separate kitchen and so i was like all right that's cool
when i was looking for places for myself i couldn't afford any of these things i had to split
a studio but they had bachelor apartments which are basically glorified closets and then there's
one shared bathroom that everyone uses and it was still like several hundred dollars per month and i
was just like man do not want to live here at that point i would try and live in like my my band lockout or something
but i lived in a band space once it's like 100 bucks a month paper thin walls rickety old
building probably full of all like asbestos or whatever you name it i was in chicago that was
fun though no no good lighting you'd wake up and there was no showers or anything so you'd go to
the bathroom and just splash water on yourself.
But, hey, $100 a month and a place to sleep.
We found a passenger two-seater from the back of a van that was thrown away, and that's what I got to sleep on.
Nice.
Yeah.
You make it work, man.
I like that stuff.
Something about that.
It's not only is it romantic, but it's actually awesome because you're saving money for the things you really find important in life, which is investing for your future.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's get this.
What we got here.
Kevin Brady says, random fact about big mouth Nick Kroll.
His father ran Kroll Industries, who was responsible for security at the Twin Towers on 9-11.
That sounds like something that sounds true.
That's not true, though.
How about someone fact-check that?
Corporate Investigation Risk
Consulting, Kroll, Inc.
American Corporate Investigations and Risk
Consulting. I read a fascinating book
about that. This is also something you should try and get on
if you haven't. I think it was Barry Meyer,
M-E-I-E-R. He wrote a book about
corporate spying. It had a lot to do
with Russiagate and Fusion GPS,
but it was about general, these weird
corporate intelligence firms that
do all sorts of crazy, really
screwed up stuff. They were the ones who were
working for Harvey Weinstein, investigating
the women. It was fascinating. Fascinating book.
Spiro Floropoulos says, I lost
my job standing up against woke and
vaccine crap because I wanted to do better for
my daughter's future. It was worth it.
If Timcast needs tech help, I have 20 years experience.
Glad to hear it.
And we do.
Send an email.
Let's say spin the UFO.
Yeah.
Have you checked that enough?
What's the name on that?
Spiro Floropolis.
That might not be his real name.
No, but we'll use that in the subject, and then we'll take a look.
Because we do need tech help as we expand.
We have new buildings and all that stuff.
So there you go.
Jordan James says,
Two years ago, a grocery would spend about $250 to $300,
now over $600 for the same amount of stuff for a family of four.
Man, it's getting bad out there, my friends.
All right, let's see.
Oppressive straight white male Christian says,
Fairmont, West Virginia literally has Tim's man sandwich shop.
It's called Yan's Hot Dogs.
Hot dog sauce, mustard, raw onions, the end.
I love it.
Simple.
You go in, you get food.
I like it.
In-N-Out, it's very simple, right?
You go to In-N-Out, you get a burger.
You can have burger, two burger, three burger,
burger with stuff on it, have a nice day.
In-N-Out is amazing.
They also got animal style.
Highly recommend if you haven't tried animal style. And run by conservatives. That's the thing. People were hating On-In-Out because they're like, it's a California in and out is amazing they also got animal style highly recommend if you haven't and run by conservatives that's the thing people were
hating on it now because they're like it's a california thing no they were run by conservatives
they were opposed to the vax mandate like i do extra crispy at in and out for the fries because
otherwise they just blanch them they hit them once i think they do it twice for you and get
them nice and crispy see everybody's always talking about how they got to ask for that good
old country restaurant where you go in and they're very nice to you and you can relax.
I don't want none of that.
I want to walk in.
I want the server to walk up and say, what do you want?
I want a cheeseburger, bacon, fries, side of mayo, and a club soda.
Done.
They leave.
They come back out.
They give it to me.
No chit-chat.
No BS.
No stupid games.
You know what I can't stand?
I can't stand when I go in.
I already know what I want to eat when I go to a restaurant before we even go in for the most part.
Going to a diner?
Yeah, I'm going to get two eggs, bacon, and sausage.
That's it.
Good question, though.
So I sit down, and the server walks up, and they're like, do you guys need menus?
Well, yes, obviously.
People need menus to know what they want to order.
Me, I know what I want.
They'll say, well, I'm just going to do the drinks first.
It's like, bro, we are ready to order.
Can you just take our order?
No, we need a man restaurant where you go in, and they're like, you just say, eggs and bacon.
Done.
And they bring you eggs and bacon.
You just grunt for the specific item on the menu you want.
A breakfast place that only serves two eggs, two bacon, two sausage, nothing else.
It's what you get.
Go home.
Are you going to make people pay before or after they eat?
During.
Oh, I like it.
A surprise.
Okay.
A surprise. All all right everybody if you have not already smashed
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I love all of you.
Thank you for stopping by.
I love you guys, too.
You're great.
You're really great.
And to the dude that has said you got four kids, man, you're going to raise great kids.
Thank you.
I also fasted yesterday for 24 hours.
Maybe that was why my mood was dipped today.
So I'm easing back into eating life.
And I'll check this out.
Yeah, it was really, really good.
It was needed.
I overate pizza, so I did it to myself.
It's my own punishment to myself
so that God doesn't punish me.
I saw someone cooking a pizza at like midnight.
Look no further.
He was eating
his sorrow. He'd been crying because we didn't get
enough likes on the video. It's the Giordano's.
I mean, talk about hard to resist, but I just
can't cheese myself like that. So not again.
Giordano's is like eating
a brick of cheese. And it expands
slowly after you eat it, like a shot. It takes a while
to get drunk. Same with the food. It takes a while
to get fat. No, you're right.
It expands in you. It's true. It's so good. Thanks, everyone. Follow me a while to get fat. No, you're right. It expands in you. It's true.
It's so good.
Thanks, everyone. Follow me at iancrossland.net if you want to.
Catch you later. Why do we always end up
talking about food? I end up leaving so freaking hungry.
I'm starving right now.
Does anybody want to go to Waffle House?
I'm going to Waffle House.
I'm fast. Maybe. After we record this members
thing. Yeah, let's do it. For sure.
You guys can follow me. Hold on For sure. You guys can follow me.
Hold on real quick.
You guys can follow me on Twitter at Sour Patch Lids and on Mines.com.
I also have Sour Patch Lids dot me.
We will see all of you over at TimCast.com for that member segment or Waffle House.
Thanks for hanging out.
We'll see you then.
Bye, guys.