Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #510 - Twitter Adopts POISON PILL To Block Elon Musk Takeover w/Brett Cooper & Ben Stewart
Episode Date: April 16, 2022Tim, Ian, and Lydia host Brett Cooper of the Daily Wire and Ben Stewart of benjosephstewart.com to discuss how Twitter is mulling the 'poison pill' option to prevent Elon Musk from gaining the upper h...and, the metaverse and its implications, Russian state TV saying that WWIII is already here, Warner Bros. choosing to omit a key part of a movie to appease China, and Joe Biden's continued decline. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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So Elon Musk tries to buy Twitter, right?
And he offers up this legitimate offer, $54.20 per share to buy everybody out.
Instead of going to the shareholders, the board announces what's called a poison pill,
which basically bars Elon Musk from buying up the company through public means.
They may still entertain his offer, but it doesn't look like it's going to happen.
And it looks like we are about to see one of the biggest culture war
battles, the most significant we've ever seen. I think Elon Musk has exposed so much dirty dealing.
And it says a lot about how wealthy billionaires, corporate interests are manipulating the public
and don't care about money because they're getting money from the Fed. They don't care
about the cost. They want the power and the influence even recode a vox.com blog says
exactly this that twitter is where journalists and politicians get out their message well surprise
surprise guess who is getting banned yeah it's mostly the right it's mostly libertarians sometimes
there are anti-war leftists and some left-wingers who will get banned but typically not that's the
power and they know it we got a couple other other stories. You know, it's funny. We're talking about Elon Musk because of World War Three apparently started
Russian state TV said the sinking of the Russian flagship, the Moskva Moskva. Well, I'm sorry,
not specifically, but after this, they said the weapons we are up against are from NATO. They're
trying to maintain that the ship sank due to a fire but the ukrainians are saying
we basically hit it with a neptune missile so we'll talk about that oh we definitely got to
talk about the secrets of dumbledore it's friday we're gonna get into it i haven't seen it but
joining us to explain what's wrong with the plot is brett cooper hey guys how are you i mean okay
so well you know we don't need to get into it right now.
Dump it in.
It's just, it's interesting.
It's a mediocre film.
The real story on our end is that
they gutted the plot for the Chinese version
because Dumbledore prefers the company of men.
And in China, they're like, no, no, we can't, you know.
It's a real secret.
That's just for America.
It's just for America.
So, yeah, Brett, do you want to introduce yourself?
Yeah, I am Brett Cooper. I am the newest host at daily wire i host the comment section with brett cooper it's a daily social media cultural reaction show it's been up and
running for about a month now it's super fun i come from a background in acting i was a professional
actor for 10 years in los angeles went to ucla now I'm here in Nashville doing politics and culture. It's fun.
Cool. Thanks for coming. We also got Ben Stewart.
I'm actually Michaela Peterson, but none of you are biologists, so it's okay.
Yeah, that's right. I'm going with it.
No, benjosephstewart.com. That's where you can check out all my films, all the work that
I do. Also, Ben Stewart podcast on YouTube. and happy to be back. I think this is my fourth
time. Yeah, man. Glad to have you.
It's the fourth turning. That's right.
We'll get into that too, maybe, with the World War
III stuff, for sure. We got Ian.
Hi, everyone. Ian Crossland. You know me.
And you love me. What's up?
And I'm also here in the corner pushing buttons. I'm
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Twitter board utilizes
poison pill to stop
Elon Musk from buying the company.
The plan intends to reduce the likelihood
that any entity, person, or group gains
control of Twitter. Check this out. Do you guys know how this works?
Kind of. So this is
if Elon Musk tries to
buy up more than 15% of of the company they're going to offer
special stock to the other investors at a discount rate so they can dilute the equity power that
elon would have meaning no matter how much he buys the other investors can buy up and take away the
power he's buying they're they're effectively destroying their own company to stop Elon Musk from ending their censorship.
Wow.
Yeah, that's probably because the Saudi Arabian king is involved with...
The prince as well.
The Saudi Arabian state as well.
So I imagine it's all going to the king.
Elaborate.
I know there's a prince who invested.
The prince tweeted out and it also said that the state itself.
He said the kingdom and...
But is that just his company?
Well, to be honest, to be fair, I don't know. I assume that that was the state itself. He said the kingdom. But is that just his company? Well, to be honest, to be fair, I don't know.
I assume that that was the kingdom itself.
Yeah, I saw Zero Hedge tweeted that he actually sold his shares.
I don't know if that's true.
Really?
The prince sold his shares.
I don't know if that's true.
It's hard to know.
But I think the big play here is the people who own Twitter, as we mentioned the other day and what we can get into now, they want the power, the power of twitter to control the conversation saudis aside i think it's vanguard vanguard up their
stake to say now we own more than elon so there's some very nefarious corporate interests that want
control of this mouthpiece that is twitter what do you guys think vanguard and uh blackrock have a
pretty substantial disney stake as well yeah. They also own Groomalicious,
which is weird. They own 2%
of the other and stuff like that. It's inbred,
if you will. Yeah, definitely.
Sorry, I had to go there. It's true.
It's a little inbred when it comes to the money.
Here's the crazy thing, right? Let me ask you
this question, Brett. Do you use Twitter a lot?
Yeah. Have you always used Twitter
a lot? No, only this year. See,
because only this year it's only
for a few months or no as of last so in the last year it was like early 2021 and you are 20 years
old gen z and you're only recently getting involved in twitter yep twitter is it's like
the political space right like how do your friends feel about it younger people honestly it is not
the most used i think instagram and tiktok are just what is most heavily dominated in politics everybody is on twitter so my friends that are in the
political sphere they are very active but outside of that people will have like a burner account
basically where they go to just look at memes but they don't tweet anything they're not involved
it's kind of like oh yeah i'll check twitter but it's a very thing in normal circles that's kind
of outdated like oh that's just whatever and i. But it's a very, I think in normal circles it's kind of outdated.
It's just whatever. And I never really had a reason or an interest in being on it
until I started. I was writing for Fee and they were like,
you need to be on there to promote your articles
and that kind of stuff.
But that's not even true.
So when I worked at Fusion,
they didn't have Twitter.
I think, it's been a while,
but we had a conversation about how
you know websites like to put the social media links so you can tweet out the story post the
stories and they didn't care about twitter and ask them why they said twitter doesn't drive traffic
and so i was like okay for me i was like twitter's really important but back in the day when it was
the free speech wing of the free speech party it was really important now you know like i mentioned
i'll post like a picture of a hairless rabbit for no reason
and just post nonsense
because the platform is garbage.
Twitter's kind of like the repository social media
network. I signed up in
08, didn't use it until
2019 because I thought it was crap, but
YouTube is where it's at. The video makes you
famous and then they come and follow you on Twitter
when they find out you have a Twitter account.
No one finds you on Twitter. That's not how it works.
Maybe not no one, but it's not.
People found me on Twitter when they realized that I looked like Ben Shapiro.
That's where I got the bulk of mine.
I had like 400 followers and then Jeremy retweeted
the side-by-side of me and Ben
and it was like, okay, now you have 20,000.
Pinch tweet on your account right now.
Yeah, you can go check it out.
People were chatting, female Ben Shapiro.
But you're taller.
I am.
Ben's actually not that short.
That's the funny thing.
We just hung out with him the other day, and I'm like, everybody says he's short.
And then he walks up to me, and I'm like, oh, he's actually a fairly average, totally normal guy.
They just like lying and making things up because they want to hate on people.
But anyway, back to the reason I was asking you these questions.
Twitter's a failing company.
Like, yo, I'm 36.
Ian's 75.
You look good, though.
No, but in all seriousness,
we're an older demographic, and you have to get
young people involved
in your culture if you want
that culture to persist. Twitter seems
to be on a train track that leads just flying off a cliff.
They're not convincing young people to be involved in what Twitter is.
They have turned Twitter into an activist blog.
Yo, I called this.
I said several years ago, and they were banning all the fun people,
the trolls and the silliness and the memes.
I was like, dude, it's going to turn into a left-wing activist blog,
and it's going to have 10 people, and eventually it's going to be one guy,
and some people might visit it.
So why would a young person want to go on a platform to be lectured by old
fogies complaining about policy yeah yeah instagram and i think instagram and tiktok you mentioned is
it's pictures and video i mean it's video for the most part twitter's text it's a lot of texts you
know you go there to read and research essentially but not to have fun i don't know yeah fun for you
i mean i enjoy it because for my show,
which is technically me diving into
comment sections and that kind of thing,
it's my... I know.
It's the... I go into the trenches,
my friends.
It's the hub of my research,
basically, so I enjoy it,
but most of the stuff that I'm looking at is
batshit crazy things, and so I
personally enjoy it, but I wouldn't go on there if this wasn't like my work i would probably choose
tiktok i would choose youtube yeah i would but it used to be fun people would go on and they'd
post memes they'd share memes like crazy and they would uh troll yeah trolling was fun and then we
get this like the ceo now uhag Agrawal, he's like,
you know, it's not about free speech. It's about
the current state of things
and having a healthy conversation.
And it's like, dude, if I wanted to go
to like a youth seminar
where they explain to me, you know,
morals or something, sure, I'd book it.
If I want to go
and just post my
thoughts and tell people like here's a funny joke, you can't do that on Twitter anymore. So what do you do? You got to go and just post my thoughts and tell people like,
here's a funny joke,
you can't do that on Twitter anymore.
So what do you do?
You got to go somewhere else.
What about Reddit?
Is Reddit still,
I use Reddit sometimes,
but how are they with censorship?
Like,
Oh,
it's the worst.
I was going to say,
that's what I heard.
I know that.
Yeah,
dude,
that used to be,
you know what it is.
It's like,
it's like,
it feels like it,
like the school principal has taken over the social media platforms.
And it's like we used to, you know, throw bouncing balls down the hall and then run after it.
Now the principal's in the hallway all day going like, hey, you don't do that.
We're like, this is so lame. Let's go somewhere else.
I think Lauren Southern tweeted out that it was like only five years ago that if someone got banned off of YouTube or Twitter, it was like global news.
And now, geez, you blink and then
a bunch of accounts are gone. I don't know. Who's the most
recent ban? Does it even matter?
It's disturbing how slippery the slope can be.
Remember how fun Alex Jones was?
Yes.
Was there a point where you ever
used Twitter even a little
bit before? Never.
And that's the thing
I think where i look at the
elon musk stuff and i'm just like dude twitter is blowing itself up on purpose yeah it has to be
because that was another thing that i felt with elon that it's like i love what he's doing the
statement that he's making but i also kind of had the opinion like it already is like you're saying
a sinking ship there's so much other crap that's going on in the world there's so many communities
that need us that i mean you know everything else and it's like this is great but also no he's right elon musk is right
yeah he he posted the top 10 twitter accounts that some of them haven't even posted this year
like justin bieber or whatever yeah because the platform is dead yeah there's users on it they
gain a little bit of users dude you know we were talking to jeremy about this and he's like hey i
said i don't even
take it seriously anymore i used to post news stories now it's like i just i i post like
chicken city is some great accomplishment because i'm just i'm like it's a it's a garbage platform
filled with garbage people who just want to just they rag on you they lie about you they smear you
there's no good conversations there's no fun there's no jokes you'll get banned for saying learn to code i don't take it seriously and then you know he's like you have a million
followers though and i'm like i don't i don't know why but i actually do know why it's what you said
youtube fam well people will watch these shows and then they'll follow on twitter because they
want to just like see their news feed and see information but i i can't take a platform
seriously if it's dying and it is i i can gain followers i'll put
it this way let's say there's a hundred million people that are using the site at any moment
sure i have a million followers so i can lose a bunch and gain a bunch within that sphere but it
feels like the sphere of actual functioning valuable users is just going down elon said
it was like the town square and that's why he wants to buy it to free it. I don't know
if he's right about that. I'm on
it a little bit, but it's such a small thing.
It's kind of like the bathroom stall wall.
It feels like.
I wonder if him just saying,
okay, forget it. I'm not buying it. Let it
fail might be the right move.
Then try and waste energy and time
pouring all this money into some
relatively dying platform. It'd be
cool if you could free the software code, but we really don't
need it. What would be the town
square, though? YouTube? Yeah, I guess.
I think so. What do you think? It's not centralized.
There's disparate communities.
The thing about Twitter is it's really easy to overlap
with different groups.
Ben was mentioning that he
trends once every three weeks,
and it's because one of his tweets will merge into another community,
which will then go nuts about it.
YouTube doesn't do that.
YouTube is much more rigid.
You don't get shown stuff that is outside of there.
It's very siloed.
You can't retube a video.
True, yeah.
And so they used to have that.
Your channel page. You could post stuff on your
channel page and all your followers would see your channel posts that was like in 2007
you i think you can still do that if you like community yeah yeah you like stuff and and but
youtube can't capture that so twitter became this rapid it became political because it's what are
you posting you're posting ideas youtube you ideas. YouTube, you're posting videos. Instagram, you're posting photos. So it makes sense that the
platform that typically is about text,
idea, concepts, information
would become political news, some
of the highest level stuff. The problem is Twitter
sought to light itself
on fire, burn itself to the ground, and make
it a trash platform that nobody wants to use.
I thought it was doomed from the beginning.
2008, there's videos of me in 2008
when all the people were like, hey, this new thing.
It's Twitter.
I'm like, oh, great, another one.
We just did Facebook.
We already have YouTube.
What are you guys doing?
We just have our – and they're like, we got to tweet our message, our six-word messages to each other.
I'm like, dude, text is going to warp our minds.
Don't fall into it.
I agree and disagree, especially with the text warping your mind.
But I disagree on the prospects of Twitter.
When I started using it, I think I signed up in 2009, I was like, what's the big deal with this?
And then within a little while, I was like, whoa, now I get it.
The rapid virality.
You tweet something, and if it's good information, if it's a funny joke,
it ripples outward in a massive wave that gets bigger.
That little pebble you drop can become a tsunami.
Remember that woman who was on a plane
and she made that joke about AIDS?
Oh my gosh, yeah.
And then her phone was off
and then when she landed
they destroyed her life.
She had like 200 followers.
You ever hear this story?
Mm-mm.
This lady had like 200 followers
and then she made a joke
about how white people
tend not to get AIDS in Africa
but it was actually
a social justice joke.
The point she was making
was that the people
who are mostly victimized by this tend to be black.
And she said it in a tongue-in-cheek way.
This was like one of the first major cancellations, I think.
The tweet went viral.
And she was just some like random woman.
And she lands and she like had a panic attack.
There were news stories written about her.
They were going nuts.
You know what ends up happening is people like there's this viral thread going around
explaining how elon musk will not be able to save the platform because he doesn't understand that
web web 1.0 is over the era of the wild west internet is gone and this guy explains that
in the beginning of the internet it was it was frontier. It was barren wastelands.
Yeah, you can go out into the middle of a barren wasteland and scream whatever stupid, ridiculous nonsense you want because ain't nobody going to hear it.
Eventually, some people show up, and then those who don't like hearing the crazy guy in the desert screaming leave, and those who think it's funny stick around and watch.
But where we're at now with the internet, the foundations have been built.
It's not just the frontier anymore.
It's totally urbanized.
The internet now is the world.
You can't just go into the middle of the city and start screaming insane things.
The cops will come and tell you to keep it down.
They'll say you have your free speech, but you can't scream.
People will come and scream back at you.
A fight might break out.
And so what this guy is saying is because of that, censorship emerges.
And he's like the only thing the big tech platforms want is for you to calm the F down, be civil.
And I'm reading this and I'm like,
dudes write about the frontier thing,
wrong about the censorship and what they want.
The people at Twitter are all biased.
Not every single person.
I mean like the higher ups, they are.
They think they're not.
They are.
It's baked into their rules.
They will ban you for calling someone dude, like when they suspended Zuby. not they are it's baked into their rules they will ban you for
calling someone dude like when they suspended zoobie and this makes it not fun and if you're
not having fun you're doing it wrong i don't want i'll put it this way how many of you on your day
off would decide to go somewhere so that someone can scream in your face about how ugly you are
you'd be like i know i'll just go to the movies instead, right?
That's what Twitter has become
by eliminating the fun
and by their outright bias.
I think what you said about the Web 1 concept
is definitely true.
And you see Facebook changing the name to Meta.
The Metaverse, according to Bloomberg standards, should be
like an, I think they said like an $800 billion industry by 2024.
And I'm just curious how Twitter would be able to kind of keep up in that kind of direction.
I know that text will always be relevant in that respect.
I just kind of wonder, it's less versatile.
I wonder if it could start moving in that direction.
If Elon buys it and links it up with the neural net, maybe.
Yeah.
I was going to say, when I asked about the town square thing immediately,
the first thing that came to my mind was, well, maybe it will be the metaverse.
And especially if it's Web 2.0 or whatever this is,
where we're talking about cops are screaming at you, that kind of thing.
I'm imagining there was this, I think it was Wall Street Journal.
They had one of their journalists go live in the metaverse for 24 hours,
and she did a YouTube video about it.
She was like, they put her in a hotel room, and they gave her food.
And she had to do, like, all of her meetings.
She worked out.
She, like, went to bars in it.
And she just lived in it, and she had to deal with all of these random people.
And I was like, oh, my God, maybe that is the future of our social media.
And so imagine what censorship would be like in the metaverse i got it like i was just gonna say there's a
it's something that truth theory on instagram posted that there's a guy who lived a week in
the metaverse he only had the goggles on and uh he like he would whatever like eat everything and
he said that there were like amazing aspects to it because he would go to like meditation class and he was meditating for like an hour two hours a day um but like there was
parts of it that were making him go insane and his dream dreams really messed up because of it
dude i had a dream three nights ago where i was in a video game but it was realistic it was like
this and in order to get through the part that i was at i had to kill a dog in the game you know
like in warcraft world of warcraft you have to fight dogs and stuff.
But it was real and it was a little dog.
And I was like, how do I do this?
They were like, the most humane way, you know, you got to choke it.
So I did in the dream and it was so disturbing.
And now I'm thinking about these people going into the VR metaverse
and they're going to be killing things like a video game,
but it's going to seem real.
What is that going to do to people?
Video games make people violent.
It may be
sickeningly disturbing. I agree and disagree.
I think there are going to be...
It's very different from
playing a video game with the controller where you're watching
a screen and you have some kind of avatar
or first-person shooter.
We've seen many studies that video games don't cause violence.
They can desensitize in other ways
that can make violence worse if you're prone to it i think the real issue is that if if you're a regular
person and you do metaverse stuff i don't think you're going to go around beating dogs but if
you're prone to these things then this could exacerbate or at least desensitize you and make
you know the tendency to violence worse a lot of video games maybe i don't 90 80 percent of them
are fighting shooting punching, punching, kicking.
Like if you get that and that's all of a sudden all these people are.
Geez.
Sorry, Ben.
Well, I've done a deep dive.
There's into the metaverse and welcome to the metaverse.
These two podcasts, I think, into the metaverse is Bloomberg specific.
And like just going deep on like, what is this?
And a lot of people, a lot of the execs that they have, they're like, this is huge, but it's not like crypto.
It's not something you just dump money into.
You need to understand what it's here to do and why there are countries, like I think it was Sweden, that bought sizable real estate there for their embassy and stuff like that.
So you can go and kind of be in person but they're like what they're really saying is like it's not like a video game
think video games having to bend to meet the internet so it's spatial web you're interacting
with the internet it's not exactly like a video game so you're right there's a lot of violence
and stuff like that there but But this is gaming meeting virtual,
like internet stuff that you would do to go and get paperwork done.
And the one thing I was thinking about
when you were mentioning the dream
is the technology that's coming out,
potentially being able to give people eyesight
that is only virtual,
but seeing something,
you know, like hooking it in
and they're seeing what they're seeing,
like through camera. They wear these
glasses in the same way that the heads up displays
mojo vision, all the
that kind of stuff works, but they're
actually seeing it through their vision.
So there's things like that.
I got something for you. You got time
for a project? Do something crazy? Yes.
Get a VR headset,
Bluetooth link it to
a 360 camera, wear a backpack and have a 360 camera on a monopod going up over your head.
Have the 360-degree view on your VR visor screen and learn how to see in 360.
Crazy.
Yeah, we planned that project a while ago, but we never actually did it, even though it's extremely easy to do.
But the idea is out there.
Anybody who wants to do it, do it.
I have mixed emotions, but I think I would do it.
Have you ever, like in school,
they would put these mirrored glasses on
to where you see the world upside down,
and you would just throw a ball back and forth,
but you wouldn't see it going up like this.
You would see it coming down and up,
and it was super weird.
But once you got the hang of it,
it took like 15 minutes, and eventually you got the hang of it, it took like 15 minutes,
and eventually you got the hang of it.
Then you take the glasses off, and you have to adjust again.
It takes another 15 minutes to adjust back to the normal way.
Let me ask you, Brett.
Would you get the Neuralink and plug your brain into a computer?
I don't think so, no.
Why not?
I don't trust it.
I don't know.
I'm just very wary about all of it so i
was even though i you know live on social media now for work i was raised without television
did not barely watch any movies growing up was not allowed to play video games was not allowed
to have social media until i was you know 16 or something like that one of the reasons why I wasn't on Twitter. Just read a ton. I was a classic
homeschooled kid.
But I just don't really
trust that. And also
with some part of Neuralink where they want
to be able to control dopamine levels and that
kind of thing. I know that's part of it. Is that a part of it?
Some of it is. And it's like that...
That's scary. And it's like that
part of it, I think there's something
that's interesting. I think the technology is fascinating. And it's like that part of it, I think there's something that's interesting. I think the technology is fascinating.
And it's like if you want to try, go ahead.
I'm just not going to really be your guinea pig.
I think I trust myself more than I trust technology.
So that's the key right there is like technology is doing something that it's not that we can't do these things.
There are ways.
But a lot of the times it's like what's the easiest way to do it?
Take this pill and then forget about it.
Don't engage with your healing.
Well, it reminds me of just everything these days.
I feel like I look at the world and it's like you can get your groceries delivered to you.
You can use an app and suddenly somebody's coming and hanging up something in your house.
Everything is digitalized to the point that it's like I could just stay and never leave my house.
And my life would function
on whether it would be like you know wearing VR
goggles being on zoom like everything that feels
very tactical and real in the world
slowly being eroded in
my eyes and then add you know
big pharma and we're just medicating the
crap out of my generation
I'm looking forward to the psychedelic
metaverse people are going to be like heavily
on psychedelics.
They're making patches.
They're making patches for just that.
So patches, think cocktails, MDMA, ketamine, slight doses,
but you go in to have whatever kind of experience you want to have. I think that's why psychedelics have gone IPO like gangbusters lately,
is this idea of also where the metaverse is going. These fully
immersive experiences where
like 1984, you
almost don't revolt against it.
It's servitude in a sense, but
you don't revolt against it because you have
everything at your disposal. Why get off the
couch? I was thinking a new career might be like a nanny.
Metaverse nannies. They make sure you're fed
and that you're able to poop and pee and
take it away for you and make sure your body's clean.
You can get robots to do that.
The distinction here is the current
metaverse is like you wear goggles.
The future metaverse with Neuralink
is you lay down in some kind
of sensory deprivation chamber floating
and you plug in your brain
and then all of a sudden your brain
experiences the metaverse.
Somebody should make a movie about that where you're like in this warm brain and then all of a sudden your brain experiences the metaverse somebody should
make a movie about that where you're like in this warm gooey liquid and you're hooked up in the back
of your head and experiencing but you every day you know you wake up you go oh man what a day
and you're and check this out you're ripped you're as fit as fit can be no no and you don't work out
because when you can plug your brain in, it just controls stimulation.
So while you're sitting in the metaverse, your body's just twitching and being programmed to build this perfect lean body in every way, processing the right nutrients, craving the right things.
Or they just plug in the feeding tube and you put it in your throat and then plug yourself in and you don't have to realize.
I wonder what would the purpose of life then be
if we were just hooked up? To fight dragons! Obviously!
What do you think is the purpose? That stresses me out.
What do you think is the purpose of life? Productivity and work.
More of an objectivist. What would you think is the purpose of life? Productivity and work. Towards what end?
I'm more of an objectivist.
What did you say about learning?
Real quick, just to what end?
How far would I go?
If the point of life is productivity and work,
to what end?
Is it just indefinite work and creation or is there something where you're going?
To leave the world a better place than I started it
or to create something tangible.
Can it always be better?
I think so.
Within the realm of physical creation, shouldn't there be some point where we're like, it cannot get any better than this or something?
Maybe.
Do you think that?
I don't know if that's possible because I feel like human innovation is kind of difficult to.
I suppose the thing is
if we were to say like what's better
it would be people being well fed, safe
good medical care and things like this
and better dwellings, better living and we've
dramatically improved that thanks to capitalism mind you
and with the metaverse
one could argue that you'll have
everything you've ever wanted all of those things
but it's more like heroin than it is
actually making the world a better place yeah you're starving you're you're frail and shaking
in the corner and you're like i i don't want to go work man you just plug me in the metaverse
and then you walk over and you're shaking you're like super pale and then you plug your brain in
and then you flashes and you're standing there six foot six super ripped nba star and you're like
yeah and you're dunking and people won't want to NBA star, and you're like, yeah, and you're dunking.
People won't want to walk away from that.
Or it's good that haptic feedback is going to make your muscles strong.
You'll be able to live like six days in the span of 20 minutes,
and you'll have all this knowledge when you come out,
and you'll be a superhuman.
That's going to be hard to compete with.
There's so much nuance with this because that's a possibility for sure,
but I think that what we're talking about here because like that's that's a possibility for sure but i think that like what
we're talking about here is like what's you were saying to what end and could the value come from
being hooked up to the metaverse like imagine if 7.5 billion were hooked up to the metaverse
perhaps the planet would do better you know perhaps some species would would or the rate of extinction would slow down
but i i also feel that like humans when you had uh was it was it michael knows and
knolls and jeremy uh no michael knows and jeremy boring were on last night
okay i thought shayna's was on he was also on last night yeah okay yeah so so that was the
one that i was listening to when you guys were having the would it be better to save the dog
with the cure for cancer you know like i was thinking about all that and the one that I was listening to when you guys were having the, would it be better to save the dog with the cure for cancer?
I was thinking about all that.
And the way that they were putting it is like, I feel like we are here to engage with what's already here.
And to improve upon it is debatable.
It's definitely debatable. that like with much of technology, it's not that we've been ripped from being able to,
to acknowledge that we have what we need here.
And a lot of it is like,
if we were hooked up to the metaverse,
would the planet actually be doing better?
Or would we be missing the point?
Well,
you know,
not every person on the planet is destroying it.
So maybe what we would need is some powerful individual to create a system where
we can round up all of those that we
deem unfit and force them
into the metaverse. I like this idea.
Yeah, you know, and then the world will be a better place
once those people are no longer allowed to
engage with it. I think China would have the stomach
to do that. Oh, yeah. And then
you know what we could do? Like if there's a pandemic,
we could weld people's doors shut and seal
them inside until they starve to death.
Yeah.
Something about these.
Perhaps the metaverse will be fine.
Yeah, because, okay, that's a good point.
No one's going to want to be stuck and imprisoned in the metaverse.
People, like any good slave, they're going to want you to want to be in it.
That's right.
Brave new world.
Not 1984.
Well, it's like the World Economic Forum thing where they're like, in 2030, you will own
nothing.
You will, well, what is that?
You'll be happy.
You'll be happy.
Yeah, that kind of thing.
That makes me think of the metaverse.
But that may be true.
They say you will own nothing.
I think we should correct that statement from the World Economic Forum.
What they should say is,
you will own the Dragon's Bracers of Ultimate Power and the Level 99 Sword of Volsiferon, NFT,
and you'll be so stoked.
The problem is you only own a license to the game
that they give you it in.
No, no, no.
Because if I get banned off Steam,
then I don't have access to any of those games.
No, no, no.
You'll own the NFT.
You just won't have a house, clothes, a car,
friends, family.
You'll have your pod, though.
You'll have the floating pod.
And the best part is you don't have to eat the bugs.
No, no, no.
When you're in the metaverse, the bugs just flow through the feeding tube into your gut.
And you don't got to think twice.
Has anyone seen the new Blade Runner with Ryan Gosling?
No.
A while ago.
It's a glimpse.
Jared Leto's role in that and what he's talking about, how we lost our stomach for slavery.
So now we started creating the slaves like full-grown adults and
stuff like that soundtrack is dope in that by the way too but like very revealing the way they look
at like kind of the future of where commerce is going and having like virtual sex slaves and
things along those lines i think blade runner the one with ryan gosling it's kind of an eye-opener
people are going to go insane from the metaverse
because you take a look
at what's going on now with kids
and let's just try to be family-friendly.
Adult content on the internet
being so just...
Pervasive?
Pervasive.
Two-thirds of the internet?
The eclectic nature of it.
Meaning like,
was it Rule 34?
Rule 34, yeah.
Is that the one where it's like
if it exists, there's porn of it?
Correct.
Okay, so the old rules of the internet.
Imagine what happens when you're in the metaverse,
and it's not just an image you can look at,
but you can actually experience.
And so Black Mirror did an episode about this
where the guy, he goes into the video game
where he's a woman, and he bangs a panda.
People are going to go crazy because they're
gonna get out and be like you know i'd love to have a family with you but i'm only attracted
to clouds it's like what what in the metaverse you can go up the cloud and talk to it and do
what you want to do you know what i'm saying we're sort of at that point with people in neo pronouns
like i was looking at a girl on tiktok recently and she was like i identify as like death death
self and plant plant self i mean there is like yeah plant self
and it's where are you did you see doll self no but that was not surprising she like shaved her
head and she's like i am doll horrifying like one eye like goes you know it's out there with the
furries it's worse yeah i mean look look look i'm fairly libertarian if i don't care if people want
to you know dress up however i want to dress up or metaverse what they want to do
the point is at a certain point people are going
to segment
away from
there's not going to be a cohesive society
that's my point
the problem is that kids are going to go in
with haptic feedback full body suits
on so they can feel everything they're experiencing
and then someone else, an old man is going to be in there
shaped as a cloud and he's
going to be like come here chop and the kid will go up
and basically have sex with this
digital sex with this other person
and it's going to warp because
yeah they'll be doing it with AI and interacting
but it won't be the same as with another human
on the other end bro there's going to be a predator in the game
and someone's going to meet
it's going to be a catfish dude you're going
to be a 30 year old
straight guy in the metaverse
and you're going to meet this you know attractive
young blonde woman and you're going to do the
haptic feedback stuff and it's going to turn
out to be like a 63 year old morbidly
obese man who's like yeah
that's right young man
I think this is where the identity
fluidity is coming in I
definitely believe that if not
intentional, it's working towards
what you can become
in the metaverse. In the metaverse,
there's already been like, I don't
know if it was straight rape because it didn't
have the functionality in the game
to do it, but harassment
like several guys coming up and
cornering a girl and just not
letting her out that's
happening you can block someone in the metaverse you should call it metaverse cops
i mean like you just you know you go like this you go i'm for those that are listening i'm
motioning my hands taking the goggles off and then you're like but i had to take my goggles
off and i didn't want to yeah against my will. Or you just click the button that teleports you to the other room.
That could be another one.
But a lot of what I think this is doing, when you were saying the haptic suits and as I was saying with the patches that can modulate hormones,
as well as Terrell McSweeney, I think she worked under Barack Obama.
She's now talking about the Internet of B and how they're like the it's how's it
going to get classified is it going to be something where if you have a handicap you can fix it by
getting your eyesight back or is it an upgrade and then once it goes that far they've already
talked about if you're a sex offender and this was i think in 2016 tara mcsweeney was or 2017
she was talking about this you you can have one of these implants that can lower your create more inhibition against some of those drives of sexual predators.
So then then they had to start getting into, well, are they allowed to have those drives?
What about prison and what prison is?
Let's imagine we get to the point where a neural link is a plug in your brain, right?
Because Elon Musk's already done that with the pigs where they put the electrodes.
Let's say we get to the point where you actually have a port and it's wireless.
You can wirelessly connect to the metaverse.
Let's say you're a child predator.
You get convicted.
And so they say we're sentencing you to 15 years in the metaverse,
but in the metaverse, it's a mundane existence where you can never act upon any of these urges
and you're internal in your own basically virtual prison. Your body is being programmed to do menial
labor. So the prison sentence is your body is just, what can I get for you today? We have a
double cheeseburger on the menu.
In your mind, your conscious self is trapped in this metaverse reality, which is a prison.
That's like Handmaid's Tale.
Oh, yeah.
I'm also scared that about time warping in the game or in the metaverse, not a game,
where it will literally feel like 15 years of your life, but it's only 20 minutes.
Like Inception.
And they can just snap you in and you're like or
you'd even do it to yourself you're like
I want to live a life and you do it and
it's like when you come back you barely
even remember your your friends when you
come back there's a there's a show about
that we mentioned I can't remember if it
was a show or a movie where this guy
invents the like eye drops and that
connect they can make their nanobots
that can probe their program to make you
experience a certain amount of time so
the original idea is like it's a you drop it in your eye, and then you're on a ski trip.
And so it's like, in the blink of an eye, you have a weekend in Aspen.
But then the guy's like, I want to turn into a prison.
And so he makes like a 50-year sentence or whatever, something like that.
And then this woman gets trapped in it or something.
I don't know, something like that.
It's crazy.
I think you might be referring
to an episode of Black Mirror.
Was it Black Mirror?
Yeah, it was some guys who were up north
in one of these, like,
like an Arctic fort or something.
And they realized
that they were not actually in reality
because they couldn't go outside.
They couldn't do anything.
They were like, oh, my God.
No, it's a different movie I'm talking about.
And there was a lady who got stuck in it.
She was, like, screaming,
trying to get help.
And it felt like years and years had passed and it had been like 10 minutes or something.
That is one of the most horrifying things to me.
The idea of being able to get people to believe that it's been a really long time, kind of
a Rip Van Winkle effect.
It's like insane.
Like, I really don't like the direction this could go.
Like, who knows how we could psychologically torture people?
I think it's called Other Life.
Interesting.
Do you remember when I was talking about the fourth turning,
the first time I came on,
and it was like during a crisis period,
the most advanced weapons of war are used?
What you just explained, Lydia, seems it to me.
Like, you know, torture on the deepest psychological level.
Then getting back to the prison thing, what's interesting is like, you know, torture on the deepest psychological level. Then getting back to the prison thing, what's interesting is, is like, you know, prison, at least it has this, you know, attempt in the title of being a rehabilitation facility.
Right.
Could something like that actually get more targeted into rehabilitation?
Because I know that I think it was in not nevada it might have been arizona there
was a prison where they just decided to dress all the inmates in pink paint all the walls pink and
it lowered crime incredibly yeah and then there's there's this other one in thailand when i was out
there training uh in muay thai where you could actually fight your way out and their world
champion champion fought his way out of prison you could actually fight it out really like in batman when they're like if you can climb out you're free yeah yeah and this guy
did he became world champ and then dave leduc a canadian came and whooped his ass and bare
bare knuckle boxing wow but like i think there's more we could do prison wise to not make it the
like what prison does to people i think you could probably get more intelligent with what you said using the metaverse or whatever maybe plant medicine something like that yeah you
just can't force people to do plant medicine you know at least morally you know administrate
psychedelics to prisoners you mean ayahuasca you know how many people have these life life-changing
experiences under right guidance under the wrong guidance it could be the worst thing in your life.
What if we start programming prisoners?
What if, you know,
we get to this point where
such bad things happen in our society,
we just say, you know what?
It is better that we neural link
or, you know, program the brain.
Instead of sending them to prison,
we, like you were mentioning with child predators, we wire their brain in a way
so that they cannot act on certain
impulses or whatever.
Turn off the aggression. Turn off
attraction.
Don't they already chemically
castrate some people? Do they do that?
I believe so, yeah. Could be wrong about that. Maybe that was
a movie? Not in every...
I think I've heard of that in countries. I know
that I heard that recently. People ukraine saying like if we capture russians we're going to
castrate them but yeah that's that's like a threat of like and that's in war as well but i mean like
do they do this because it's maybe just some like fictional idea where a sex offender gets you know
pills so that they can't those child predators yeah predators. Yeah, is that... I think so.
Let me look it up.
I feel like I saw that online.
But I think that's interesting
because think about...
A lot of people say,
well, prison,
people don't commit some crimes.
Some people don't commit crimes
for the threat of what might happen.
So imagine the threat of a Neuralink in your brain
where all those urges go away
and it's not up to you anymore. What if... I mean, man, Neuralink in your brain where all those urges go away. And it's not up to you anymore.
What if, I mean, man,
Neuralink is some scary stuff, man.
Because I don't think we even understand
how terrifying it can be.
It's not going to be wired.
It's going to be wireless.
Why would you need a wired cable?
No, it's going to Wi-Fi,
connect to your brain,
and then someone's going to hack your brain
and make you experience some crazy stuff. And then what happens going to hack your brain and make you experience some crazy stuff.
And then what happens if someone hacks your brain
and then you're feeling like you're being attacked by ninjas
and you're really just beating the crap out of strangers?
The lack of control is just probably the most horrifying thing to me.
I think social media is like the early adoption of that,
the way people can be twisted just by media.
Well, I was even thinking with like
metaverse stuff like we've seen especially with the gen z and you know my generation that's grown
up with social media just like are all like our slew of mental health issues and the way that we
are desensitized to basically everything uh and the way that we function is so drastically different
than other generations i mean you look at I did a business program at Berkeley before I
graduated, and we had this whole
class on corporate psychology, and
it was all of these HR departments at huge
orgs prepping
for Gen Z, because they're like, you're so
sensitive.
We have to basically rework our entire
structure to prep for this generation
that has been royally screwed
by social media. So it's like, if that is just what has happened with Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok, what
the hell is going to happen?
The reason I asked you earlier how you felt about it was because I think what will end
up happening, the metaverse will not be popular at first.
Some people will get it for necessity because it'll be easier to work when you're using
the metaverse and it'll probably start with a headset.
Eventually, they'll make some kind of simple EEG
interface. Eventually some
people will opt to get some kind of like wireless
implant. When
the young people are entering the workforce
it's going to be normal.
People are going to do it. It's not going to
be an issue of whether you think it's weird or creepy. It's
going to be like, oh, but you know, everyone does it.
What I wonder is how much diet
plays a role because you were saying before the show that you're
keto or you've been keto for a while.
You've been keto for a while and it helped clean up the mind.
I found cleansing the gut biome and I wonder
it's hard to measure
how much of it is these microplastics
or estrogen in the water
or have you studied this stuff? Ben, I know
you look into this stuff from time to time.
Is it quantifiable how much diet has impacted the youth
in addition to social media?
Because I, for a long time, just thought it's got to be social media.
It has to be.
And like, I mean, it's such a nuanced question
because look at our topsoil and now look at our microbiomes.
Like the microbiome of the earth is eroding.
There's like the amount of supplementation you need to have the microbiome
naturally that our ancestors
had is going
to cost you a lot of money. You can't
do it on low or minimum
wage. So that's just the microbiome.
And then you're adding on top of it
the PCBs, the
microplastics, whatever else
is in there. I'm hearing a lot about graphene
and stuff
like that, even in water supplies. So there's things that we can account for things that we
can account for. And then there's sedentary lifestyle, which is huge. So like there was
this guy, Steven Jepsen, 80 years old, never leave the playground.com. And he was taking people over
the age of 65. And, um, because past 65, if if you break your hip your mortality rate goes through
the roof he was just doing things like two buckets in front of them bare feet picking up objects like
marbles and tacks with your toes and dropping it into the other bucket that would like work on the
talus and up here and it would actually they would notice that it was halting neurodegenerative disorders like, or diseases like Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, stuff like that.
And then like making it trickier, like you have to stand up and do it.
Stuff like that is important for the brain.
It turns neurology back on.
It promotes neurogenesis and neuroplasticity.
And that's just what we can quantify.
So like it's a whole new playing field because the, like everything from the soil to the way we sit all day long.
And as you were saying.
I was going to say, like a very sedentary lifestyle.
We've gotten to the point where we don't need to get up anymore.
And the metaverse is going to exacerbate that.
So it's really, it's those who want to engage with health and decide that I'm not going to wait for somebody else to do it for me.
I need to do it for myself.
And that's huge, especially with like the pharmaceutical conversation where it's like,
I mean, you can look at how many kids in the last 20, 25 years have suddenly been diagnosed
with ADD, ADHD, or any other mental health thing.
And so you just throw any drug on top of them rather than addressing what is your lifestyle?
What are you eating?
Are you even going outside? your lifestyle what are you eating are
you even going outside how much time are you spending online it's like sure here take these
meds that kind of thing we're just royally screwing up our bodies when they're very natural and this
isn't like some hippie holistic whatever it's like no we have it's very new that we have just
been you know throwing these things on our brains and right it's it's new literally the technology
the pills the chemicals didn't exist
depending on which medicine 10 20 30 40 50 years ago yeah hormones were isolated i think what the
beginning of the 1900s and estrogen was in the 60s high fructose corn syrup aspartame in the
early 80s like that stuff's relatively sucralose all this weird stuff we're doing the fact that
you have to say this food is organic over here like we're going to label it as organic is strange because now look at the ratio of organic to non-organic in stores.
Like the fact that you have to label it like that means that everything else is not and it probably has things in that that will affect you, neurotransmitters all the way down to the hormones.
So like it's a lot.
And you were just talking about, well, you said ADHD, but autism.
Yeah.
We laugh at simple approaches to these things and we applaud pharmaceutical profit-based
ones.
Whereas if you speak to somebody with autism in a prosodic voice, meaning kind of lilting, poetic, up and down, it halts in its tracks the symptoms of autism almost completely.
And this was Stephen Porges' polyvagal theory.
Just the way you speak to them is different.
They stop staring at your mouth and they start staring at your eyes.
Symptoms go away.
And that's just one of many things.
And we don't get into that conversation
because just let the pharmaceutical companies take care of that.
That's the narrative.
It's the same with schizophrenia and that sort of thing.
We have a very good family friend of ours who runs a fantastic nonprofit,
and he is a schizophrenic, but he has completely controlled his voices.
I think he also has OCD.
I'm pretty sure he's bipolar as well, multiple personality
disorder, that kind of thing. He had a whole slew of trauma
when he was younger.
Was in jail many, many, many times.
Completely turned it around.
Is now fully in control of his voices.
Runs two businesses and is non-profit.
And is totally like carnivore.
But it's all based on
lifestyle and he's totally off meds.
And it is wild to see how
those very simple i mean you have to be very you know committed to those lifestyle choices but the
power that you have as an individual to make those changes to not be you know at the beck and call of
a that was a really intense conversation you guys uh just about so much let's tone it down a little
bit and talk about how the russian state tv said the Ukraine invasion has already escalated into World War III.
Cool.
Viewers were told to recognize that Russia is now fighting against NATO infrastructure, if not NATO itself.
Okay.
I don't.
I'm honestly really tired about Ukraine, World War III, blah, blah, blah.
I was working on my main segment for my Timcast channel.
And originally I was like, I guess we'll talk about this because, you know, the West is supplying weapons to the Ukrainians.
They did sink the Russian flagship, the Moskva.
And now they're saying it's World War III because Western forces are basically supplying Ukrainians.
And then I was like, I don't talk about Elon Musk because I'm just kind of sick of talking about this.
And the bigger issue here, I don't is the is the day-to-day
play-by-play of the war and the stupid points being made by pundits but the fourth turning
so i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna use that to launch back to you know i think maybe the first
time we had you on ben we were talking about the fourth turning and how we didn't know what it was
going to be maybe war with china and now it looks like it's going to be war with russia
are you brett are you familiar with what the fourth turning is
no not at all all right do you want to give us the elevator pitch ben i will and first i'd like
to say that you wanted to tone it down into world war three i love that yeah i just wanted to make
sure the audience also understands that yeah um so neil howe and william strauss wrote a book back
published in 1997.
I think they researched it for 10 years.
And it's called The Fourth Turning.
And in 97, when this book came out, it's laying out like some time around.
Well, basically, there are seasons and it takes about 80 to 90 years.
So every 80 to 90 years, there seems to be a crisis period.
So you go back.
It was World War II, Great Depression.
Back before that, it was Civil War.
Back before that, Revolutionary War.
You could even trace it back before that in England with the Glorious Revolution and a
little bit further back.
But basically, it's this idea that after a crisis period, there's a high and then there's
an awakening, which would be the 60s, 70s, that kind of culture.
And then there's an unraveling, which is like I always get into the music
that shows you what the culture is, like the Nirvana, Soundgarden,
this like it's okay not to pretend like everything's great, girls, girls, girls.
No, we're going to talk about like something is coming apart.
So anyway, they said by 2005, give or take three years,
there's going to be an inciting incident.
And that inciting incident will likely be economic and it will steamroll into many other things.
They mentioned Bill Gates and vaccine agendas in one sentence.
They said the possibility for a pandemic. They said the possibility for rural gangs and
or urban gangs
and rural militias
at each other's throats, I think BLM
and Proud Boys and that kind of
stuff, all the way to
weapons of mass destruction
or the thought of weapons of mass destruction,
a plane being hijacked by terrorists
and then
it all potentially comes back on the country itself as a false flag attack.
And I'm just like, 97, like all, most of these things come to pass.
So the gist is, aside from their, you know, the predictions they put out, which we're seeing to a certain degree,
it's that the fourth turning is the fourth season, the fourth generation or 20 20 year period where some great catastrophe happens
and so we're supposed to be in that right now and the culmination is what it ends 2028 but it should
be culminating 2026 like the peak the climax the crescendo which is the 250 year uh birthday of the
u.s which who's that person who said uh i forget what his name is, but he says, empires only last 250 years.
That's his life expectancy.
And in every fourth turning, the most advanced weapons of war will be used.
So the last one you see, obviously, Nagasaki, Hiroshima.
This time around, we were talking last time, like, what do you think it would be?
You think it would be bigger bombs or more death and destruction?
And you said something that i thought was very on point
which was like the mind it's it's psychological warfare and and what we're talking about now
and and then dovetailing into the metaverse i think you know it's that and also this technology
that potentially even frequency wise can modulate hormones i mean i i think it's already being used and i would say that there's a
lot of people who say that you know fourth turning is only like 75 to 80 percent correct and i'm like
they wrote it in 97 if they were 50 correct that's incredible right so so is it uh and hold on uh
joe biden remember you you did that thing where he was talking about the New World Order?
Yeah.
He says in that, every three to four generations, there's this big, I forget the exact words that he uses.
First, he said something funny.
I was in a, what did he say, a high security meeting.
Military meeting. Military guy told me this, and it's like, Joe, please don't leak.
Stop, stop, stop.
Top clearance information. But what he was saying was that a high-ranking military officer told him that effectively the Strassau generational theory was correct.
Or at least alluded to this idea.
Joe Biden says 60 million people died or whatever.
And so he says there's going to be a new world order.
And he's referring to the liberal world order.
And what they're saying is it's changing now with this coming conflict. And there's going to be a new world order. And he's referring to the liberal world order. And what they're saying is it's changing now with this coming conflict
and there's going to be a new one and we have to lead it.
So it sounds like
even Joe Biden thinks things are going to escalate.
But let me revise my previous position
and entertain a possibility
here.
In the fourth turning, the most powerful weapons
are used. And we talked about this. Maybe
it's social media, the psychological manipulation and control of the population.
If you can get a country to worship you without firing a single bullet, of course you would.
It's cheaper.
It's faster.
It's easier.
It's safer, right?
It's more efficient.
You save resources.
You don't take out power plants you might need in the future.
But now we're seeing in Russia, Zelensky, just he keeps screaming bloody
murder. He's warning now that Russia will use nuclear weapons. I got to be honest, when he came
out and was like, oh, no, the nuclear power plant and the International Nuclear Committee, whatever
this group was, was like, oh, no, everything's fine. They weren't going after the reactors.
I'm like, this guy, I get it. He's desperate for help. Ukraine is being beaten down.
Russia is firing missiles, all that stuff. But then when he comes out and says they're going to
use nukes, I go, oh, really? And then I see on Russian TV, they're like, NATO is supplying
weapons to Ukrainians and they sank our flagship. If the Russians believe the sinking of their
Black Sea flagship was NATO and not Ukraine, which they probably do,
because let's be real,
Ukraine is said to be one of the only countries
or the only country to become poorer
since the fall of the Soviet Union.
They have the capability to sink a Russian flagship.
Russia denies it at first.
They claim credit.
If Russia really does believe
that NATO is supplying forces,
NATO is attacking them,
why wouldn't Russia say, nukes?
Hitler, that's why he declared war on the United States,
because they were running weapons to Britain
when Britain was at war with Germany,
before the United States and Germany ever got into war.
Think about, Hitler was a genocidal maniac.
Putin doesn't seem like it.
He just seems like he wants the territory.
So I don't think he's going to go to World War.
I don't think he's going to declare war on NATO.
But I mean, if they keep blowing up Russian ships
with NATO weapons,
what choice does Russia have at that point?
I mean, you could always surrender.
They could always surrender.
Or call a white peace and just end it.
What if Putin was like,
you know, I don't want the world to end.
So I quit.
And then they just stop. It's happened many times in the past. If you fight a war to end, so I quit. And then, like, they just stopped.
It's happened many times in the past.
If you fight a war to a stalemate and both sides decide, it's called a white peace.
It's over.
There's no victory terms.
No one wins.
No one loses.
You brought up Hitler.
Have you heard of Tim Snyder?
He writes about, like, Ukraine and Hitler's eastern front more than Hitler's Western Front. And he's fully convinced that, and I think he's written seven books on it,
that Ukraine was Hitler's eastern aim
and maybe the whole aim.
Like the whole colonization
that was happening at that time,
they were a little behind,
potentially World War I.
I'm not as advanced as Tim Snyder was.
But he said that his eyes were fixed on Ukraine.
And so that's an interesting tidbit of history there in Ukraine.
And also, I don't want to side rail it, but this is a book by Yuri Shailov,
Ancient History of Arata Ukraine, 20,000 BC to 1,000 CE.
So it goes through a lot of history.
The ancient history of Ukraine is
incredible. And a lot of the spots where there are these burial mounds with like 63 caves underneath
and petroglyphs that seem to be proto-Sumerian. So prior to Gobekli Tepe, the earliest civilization
where agriculture comes from, seems to be right in this area. And, I mean, there's something really interesting about, like,
the ancient, ancient history of Ukraine that also where the symbol of the swastika
and some even say the yin-yang symbol may have originated there,
that the Russians, the Belarusians, the Slavs, the Aryans have an origin primarily in Ukraine.
So it's some kind of sacred land that...
It's like a land bridge.
That's for sure.
It's flat and it connects Asia and Europe.
A lot of their most sacred spots were all along the Dnipro River.
And also there's Kortitsa Island, which is in the Dnipro.
And Tibetan monks claim their origin to be there in Ukraine
and supposedly even have documentation to prove it.
All in this book, but the thing is,
is Yuri Shailov, an Anatolian coefficient,
leading archaeologist and sumerologist,
you can't find anything in English except this book.
And I've tried to get in touch with him.
I've tried to get in touch with Tim and Heather Lee Hooker
that have translated some of the work.
Nowhere to be found.
Yeah, the Black Sea port makes it such an amazing piece of land to control strategically.
You can get into basically the oceans and you can get all over the continent.
Just a quick thing on the Black Sea.
As I was researching a lot of this, I find Putin's face everywhere and all these ancient sites.
He goes in this submersible. Check out Putin in a submersible in the Black Sea,
going down to the bottom of the Black Sea to find an ancient ship.
Interesting.
And you'll see some of the images where...
Oh, yeah.
What?
What?
What is happening?
You know, if he wants to...
What if Vladimir Putin was actually just like
Nick Cage in National Treasure, and they're trying to frame him because he's going to
uncover the secrets of Europe? I did not want this power. I must free them.
All the way out to the Ural Mountains, all these ancient sites that apparently
belong to the same core civilization prior to the
Sumerians, Putin was everywhere. I found pictures everywhere visiting these ancient sites. So I don't know what it means.
I'm just throwing it out there because it's food for thought. Well, I mean, look, Hitler
believes in a lot of occult crazy stuff too. And Putin could be motivated
by weird stuff. No idea.
Israeli, I mean, that's a holy land. It's all about that area. And that may not
all about it, but a big part of it is they wanted to be in the area where jesus was so a lot of times i mean it's culturally
there's an importance to people about being in a specific area well you know i i definitely think
world war three is an interesting topic but it is friday so maybe we should actually tone things
down and talk about world war four the next one no this one will be a bit more chill, and we'll have a good Friday night.
Fox News reports Warner Brothers removes dialogue from Fantastic Beasts,
The Secrets of Dumbledore in China.
The move comes after the studio received a request to remove lines referencing
Dumbledore's gay relationship.
My understanding is that that's like the main plot of the movie,
but Brett, you saw it.
Saw it last night, yeah.
So spoiler alerts i guess
the secret is that dumbledore is gay which really wasn't yeah i know which really wait wait wait
i'm sorry i'm sorry the movie is called the secrets of dumbledore and the secret is that
he's gay basically but that secret was already spoiled years ago because jk rowling was kind of
when was that maybe three years ago but she was like oh yeah he's gay and a couple of the other characters you know or non-binary whatever still everybody hates her regardless um but yeah i think
here's the thing i love harry potter the movie was mediocre it was subpar and there were like
three kind of gay points throughout it like it started off with some and there were some like
innuendos in like the middle part and then at and then at the end, like, you see Dumbledore and Grindelwald
kind of, like, have their moment of, like,
who will I love now?
Like, kissing, or...
No, they're just, like, they're fighting,
but because they are connected,
because...
I forget what happened in the first one,
but they're, like, blood is connected
because they were lovers or something like that.
They technically can't, like, destroy each other.
But that's crazy.
Yeah.
Because, like, in Harry Potter, there's, like destroy each other but that's crazy yeah because like in harry
potter there's like how is it that no one who ever once loved another person ever fought until now
yeah like you have to imagine that would come up quite a bit you know it's like that's my axe
i can't fight her because you know it reminded me of the same thing when uh like voldemort and
harry are fighting in the wands like combustible
yeah it was that kind of thing it was that story
it was a similar vibe I don't know exactly
what lines they removed
removed obviously because I didn't watch the Chinese
version but
doesn't it make like the movie not work if they remove
that from the movie I feel like I don't know what the other
secret would be
I don't like what would then what would the
whole plot be it was very it was don't, like, what would then, what would the whole plot be? It was very,
it was just kind of like
taking down Grindelwald,
but there really was
nothing going on.
They add like one scene
at the end
where after the movie ends,
they're like,
but wait,
what was the secret Dumbledore?
And then he like
pulls up his underwear
and he's got roses.
He's like,
I'm wearing rose underwear.
And they're like,
oh,
that's the secret.
Love it.
Yeah.
I guess the other,
there was another, because Dumbledore's
brother is in it, so there is another Dumbledore
and he kind of has like a storyline
where there is a secret that's not gay.
So I technically think if you
remove that, there is another
secret Dumbledore.
They were referring to the non-
main character Dumbledore.
The ancillary character Dumbledore
in the title of the film.
One of the things you mentioned
that really bugs me is,
you know, I think Star Wars did it.
They ripped off the Star Wars Episode IV,
the first Star Wars ever made,
with the, what was it, Episode VII?
789? It was VII.
I think they just redid the story,
but in a different form.
It was a shot-for-shot remake, basically.
So, The Force Awakens is a new hope.
Did it feel like they did that with Harry Potter? Waster was it different enough it was it was different enough it was
not as good the magic was fantastic though i mean it's interesting going back and like watching the
original movies and it's like i remember growing up being like oh this is so epic and it's like oh
it's kind of campy now that's what i was wondering like did that secret make it to like oh you kind
of broke the fourth wall this is about this is too much about
this world not enough about that world
you could definitely tell one thing that I learned was
that this I think was pretty sure
people can correct me if I'm wrong this was the first Harry Potter
film that was produced by Hollywood
rather than British
filmmakers and I don't know I mean
you could tell there was something about it that I was
just like it didn't feel
right it didn't feel like it really sat in the universe.
Maybe that was it.
But it was...
Kind of like the last Matrix.
What if they just...
So J.K. Rowling's been doing these screenplays.
The books she wrote were fantastic.
I love the Harry Potter series.
Seems like these screenplays are just the worst trash I've ever seen in terrible movies.
Is she writing the screenplays?
I'm pretty sure she wrote the screenplays.
Yeah.
It wouldn't be funny if they announced the new series and it's effectively like star wars a shot for shot remake of of
the sorcerer's stone or whatever but at the end it's like the secret isn't the sorcerer's stone
it's just like some woke trash about the character was actually a white supremacist oh
did you see the new lord of the rings movie on, I think it's on Amazon? It's a series, right? Yeah, it's a series.
And I saw a screenshot that showed like 170,000 down votes and like 10,000 up votes or something.
And all these people comment on it.
The video's on YouTube.
And it's a quote from J.R.R. Tolkien that says,
Evil can never create anything new.
It can only twist and destroy what's already been created.
That's interesting.
The book The Master Switch goes into what Hollywood has been doing lately.
You notice that almost everything's a remake.
It's this algorithm that's saying we know how to predict how continually making Spider-Man,
continually making Batman and Wolverine and all that stuff.
We know how to predict that.
And I think that's also going to dovetail into these.
Did you guys see what
was that ready player one no okay well there there was that racing game where there's godzilla and i
think there's also king kong they're going to immortalize these like archetypal characters
in these games to live forever so they they become like almost like these fictitious gods and goddesses from the movies.
And I just want to say one thing.
Like Voldemort, you mentioned?
Mm-hmm.
The two other names that are in Russian similar to that
is Vladimir and Voldemir.
Mm-hmm.
And so I keep hearing that relation between Vladimir and Voldemort.
So that's anti-Russian propaganda?
I have no idea.
J.K. Rowling, what did you do?
The new Superman is gay.
Really?
It's like the son of Superman, but he's a bi, I think.
They were talking about doing that with James Bond, I think.
No, they were going to do a non-binary.
The producer was like,
they were like,
oh, well, we're not ruling out that Bond could be a non-binary.
Dude, I legit would love to make short films that, you know, in no way disparage anybody,
but just make the point where it's like, we take James Bond, we do an action scene,
and then in the end, the bad guy goes, James, are you gay?
And he goes, yes, and that's the end of it.
It's like, you know, and I don't say that to, this is not a critique
of the LGBTQ community.
It's a critique of Hollywood. Just like
to predict how they would play these movies
out, how they would do character development.
Instead of being like, here's
what I like. I like it when there's
character development and
you understand the character or you
relate to a certain emotion.
What I don't like is when they're just like, Dumbledore's gay.
It's like, okay, look, if Dumbledore as part of the plot
was in love with a guy, I'd be like, oh, okay, show me the
motivation, help me understand it. If the secret of the movie is literally
that Dumbledore likes men and they've been hammering this point, I'm just like, guys, you didn't make a movie. You made, just make a commercial where it ends with Dumbledore likes men and they've been hammering this point I'm just like guys you
didn't make a movie you made just make a commercial where it ends with Dumbledore saying he's gay
a social social point rather than good writing I was gonna say so from the like the back side of
it because I was an actor for 10 years and then while I was in college my whole plan had been to
like then go into production and be a producer and that's what I wanted to do so I was working at
I was working at an academy award-winning production company it was an indie company and what i loved
about it was that it was they only produced like deeply like character-driven narratives like
brilliant stories and during blm i was working with them around covid as well everything swapped
and instead of i was on like the development team, so part of my
job was reading every single script
submission that we would get and breaking it
down. And it switched from
Brett, tell us about the character motivations
and what makes these characters tick.
What do we learn from it? What is the audience
grasping at the end? The things
that I think are important, too.
Do we have a Native American story? We don't
have this. I mean, we scrapped like 70% of the projects that we had agreed to fund and do because they did not tick
off enough of the boxes did ownership change or was there was just like we're not going to produce
it so it was just like went back to the screenwriters like we can't do it and then my job
became not let's like seek out these fantastic new writers you know read whatever comes in it
was like you need to actively go find things that we can acquire that are like a trans,
female, Native American story
so that we can be the social justice.
I mean, it truly got so separated
from what I think is the most beautiful part
of entertainment, why I love entertainment,
why I love movies and storytelling.
It was truly just, you know,
let's check a political box.
Was it like the ownership of the,
when I asked about the ownership
of the company that you worked at,
did they change?
Oh, no, no.
They just started acting differently?
Yeah.
Social engineering.
Well, you know what I was thinking is,
is it possible that maybe in the past 10 or 15 years,
a species of small slugs descended on Earth
and crawled into people's ears
and started to attach themselves
and take over their minds and bodies.
Is that one way it may have happened?
Yeah, what are those little space bears called?
Water bears.
You guys ever read Animorphs?
No.
I think they're called Yerks.
Little brain slugs take over your brain.
This kind of came up with Ben Shapiro. He was on the show a couple days ago. We did an afternoon show that's going to be on TimCast.com I think they're called Yerks I wonder if Little brain slugs Take over your brain This kind of came up With Ben Shapiro
He was on the show
A couple days ago
We did an afternoon show
That's going to be
On Timcast.com
I think on Sunday
We'll put it on YouTube
Okay cool
And we were talking about
Just basically facts
And how can you convince
Sometimes you just
Can't convince people of things
And I think when
Someone's really agitated
Like when someone's
Really emotionally calm
Facts speak volumes
It's easy to pay attention
And change your mind
And you know
Change your thoughts When you know change your
thoughts when you're agitated and crazy almost nothing can make you stabilize like no matter
what comes up it doesn't matter because you're freaking out and if like this wi-fi is freaking
if all this this this energy that we're pouring through the air is like causing people to go nuts
haywire i don't know the word and so they're they're not able to stay cool when things like, you were saying, social
engineering, when things like BLM, and it may
even have contributed to the rise of these social
movements, but I think that's more like a CCP
long war game, but that it's just
overly impacting people
because of the environment. That's why it's
when people say, oh, we just need to, like, how do you
convince people of, you know, how do you red pill
them, whatever. It's like, just speak the truth. It's like, you can't
just do that. Like, we can, you know, talk about facts all day long, but if you are not meeting people on, you know, how do you red pill them, whatever. It's like, just speak the truth. It's like, you can't just do that. Like we can, you know, talk about facts all day long, but if
you are not meeting people on their own turf, if you're not, you know, doing what Daily Wire does
and creating culture, what Timcast does, all of this, um, if you are not, you know, communicating
with them in a way that is relatable and tangible and engaging and, you know, is taking into account
emotions, especially with the younger generations, where we are...
All hell is breaking loose at all times.
You cannot just convince people with facts alone.
It has to be.
It's not possible.
When you were growing up,
did it feel like all hell was breaking loose
when you were younger, too?
Not at all, but I was in a very...
I don't know, not contained environment,
but I just didn't...
I didn't go to public school.
I was homeschooled for my entire life.
Yeah, that's great. I went to public school for three years i did kindergarten
first grade maybe second grade and then i did my freshman year of high school and i was like this
place is awful and i left so as a result i was not in the midst of all of that i saw it when i got to
college and while i was working in hollywood but i think i was so you know focused on my own
internal whatever that it just didn't even phase me.
I wanted to go back to your point you said
about, you know, facts and convincing people.
I actually think that facts typically play a small role.
It's almost always emotion.
So you want to make someone feel something.
When I was doing,
when I worked in fundraising for nonprofits,
it's all emotion.
If you go to someone and you'd say,
you know, hi, I'd like to give you some facts
about this catastrophe we're facing.
Did you know that every day we do X, Y, and Z?
And this is where they're going to be like,
yeah, okay, thanks, have a nice day.
No, you've got to, they say the first thing
is create a sense of urgency.
Ah, that's right, you have to convince them
something is imperiled now.
You can't just tell them the truth,
you have to create it, create.
They would say create a sense of urgency.
And you have to make them personally invested in it you have to make them there's several ways you can do it there's things like if we're going to talk about a faraway land we have
to make you to blame because why would you care about a faraway land oh because it's your fault
if we're going to talk about an issue that does affect you then you're the victim here and you've
got to help fight back like we got it we got to hold these people accountable there's always a way to emotionally trigger someone either through a
demand for justice or through guilt there's an emotion you're trying to target to make them take
a certain action i hated that industry it's what i was doing before this a little this is what i
was doing this summer was doing copywriting and you know what is it called? I worked for an organization that did it.
Where you're writing the
fundraising letters and all of that
stuff. There is basically a blueprint
that you follow to get boomers
to donate money to you.
These blueprints are typically formulaic.
They're typically trash.
But the formula is right.
What they do is they know the formula.
There's actually a step-by-step process.
So these companies will give you a sheet and it'll give you five boxes and it'll explain
what each box needs to do.
And then you write in those boxes, you know, how would you convey the idea?
So it says like one, introduction, two, sense of urgency, three, problem, four, solution,
five, pitch.
And then you're like, you know, they say, follow this formula.
Write it out.
A lot of companies will pre-write these things, hoping that if they hire 100 people, give
them the script, 20 of them make it, the rest get fired a week later.
And so, you know, I always thought those were trash because people don't, like, you'll see
them on the street, like, hi, how are you doing?
I'm so-and-so working with Touch & Touch. We have a and such we have a huge problem blah blah blah it's all boring and formulaic
if you know how to read people how they move how they act then this job becomes insanely easy but
it is almost always an emotional argument you're either trying to convince them that you're cool
and right and they should be on your side trying to convince them that they're there they should
be guilty for being at fault for contributing to this
or that someone is screwing them over.
You're never just saying, do you care about the environment?
Yes.
What's the most concerning thing to you?
One of the problems we're fighting is deforestation.
Are you concerned about the removal of trees in large numbers?
People will be like, I'm sorry, I don't have time for this, and they'll leave. But if you say something like, when you go and do X, Y, or Z, you are destroying every step of the way.
I know you don't mean to do it.
None of us do.
But don't you think that you should help clean it up a little bit?
Of course you should.
I know you're a good person.
Right.
You're not the kind of person who's going to make a mess at someone's house and leave it there, would you?
Of course not.
Okay, credit card, please.
I wonder, and Ben, again, i ask you because you're one of my
favorite people on earth um no i'm just uh you're very intelligent just kidding
i don't play favorites i'm talking about the past is there like some
historiological you know reason that we're so tuned into emotion well i don't think we're
hardwired for fact we're hardwired for fact. We're hardwired for story. Look at what
we've done since time immemorial. Sat around, told stories. You could be like, I'm going to tell you
the facts of my day. I hunted this thing and I hunted that thing. But it always ended with the
shaman or the chief or somebody wrapping it into a mythological story. And there's a mythos that
basically captures every generation, every civilization.
There's some kind of narrative, like an overarching narrative.
One big one from the Bible is that there will be a Savior and be on the lookout for that Savior.
And I think we are hardwired for narrative.
And the thing about what's happening in the world today, I'll just say this.
You don't have to get people,
like if I wanted to engage your emotions to get you to do something in the world,
and then to do that to large groups of people, destabilizing people's sense of equilibrium first,
which is basic training. They did that with me. You get the people into a state of stress. It destabilizes
their default mode network. It almost puts them into a psychedelic suggestible like state.
And then what seems to be the context, things that I'm not making you do, but I'm kind of
filling in the blanks of what's happening contextually, will create a worldview where
like, oh shit, because of everything you just said, I realize what I have to do.
And that's setting up the set
and setting, destabilizing use,
and suggesting and planting seeds,
not being overt and on the nose.
Let's just, going off
what you said, this is what I thought of. Let me tell
you about the hunt I went on.
So I went out into the woods.
I had my
rifle with me. There were some issues. We saw the woods. I had my rifle with me.
There were some issues.
We saw the buck.
I lined it up.
We got it.
It was great.
Big guy.
Let's try another version.
So there I was.
I'm walking through this mud.
I see the beast.
Massive dimple lights.
I get my rifle ready.
I'm jammed. It notices me. I take the beast. Massive. Dim the lights. I get my rifle ready. I'm jammed.
It notices me.
I take the shot.
We got it.
We go over there.
This thing was magnificent.
Beautiful.
The biggest you've ever seen.
Which would people prefer to hear?
Oh, the second one. Yeah, the second one.
You're driving emotion.
You're trying to create a sense of what's happening.
So, storytelling.
You know, I think about these,
we play D&D or Magic the Gathering or whatever
and you've got these games based on goblins.
And I'm like, you know why there are stories
about goblins? Because some guy
went to go sell beans at the market
and while he's walking through the woods
he comes across some ugly dude who's yelling
about something or other. And he's like,
everybody's always coming here and messing things up.
This is my road. I've been working on it. It's like, get out of here, dude. And he's like, everybody's always coming here and messing things up. This is my road.
I've been working on it.
It's like, get out of here, dude.
And he walks away.
When he goes back home,
he doesn't say some guy yelled at me.
He goes, so I'm walking through the woods
and a vile creature emerges
with a crooked nose and pointed ears
and he snarls.
And I'm like, back beast!
And I draw my blade.
And so people tell these stories.
Someone writes it down and draws pictures
and they're like, wow.
And then we imagine these vicious monsters and these giant, you know, there I was fighting the dragon.
And it's like a small lizard.
You know, Homo florensis, that hominid.
I think those are maybe where the fantasy goblins come from, those little small humans.
And they were, I think, they historically would eat human children.
Like they would steal them.
They found some new ones a couple of years ago.
They would steal children. Whoa. Yeah new ones a couple of years ago.
They would steal children. Those are the most recent ones they found.
Whoa.
Yeah, this is what I've heard.
They found new.
Ethological stories of small people like the Menehune in Hawaii and also many of the islands
that apparently built all the structures before the regular stature people would get there.
There's stories of little people and giants everywhere.
Native Americans have a lot of stories. I think they're called the giants.
Right, but like cannibalistic giants,
Native Americans from
Pennsylvania all the way down
to Tennessee, actually.
Say that there's cannibalistic giants?
Giants, yep.
Are they weird, large humans that are kind of naked
and can all be killed by slicing the nape of their neck?
No, but go on.
Did you know what I was referencing?
No.
Oh, it's Attack on Titan.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, but you left and I was like, are you familiar?
All the guys in the chat are going to be like, but I guess not.
So guys, calm down.
I also think you have a good voice for story.
You should do some voiceover like that.
Oh, yeah.
I'm Dr. Fauci in Freedom Tunes.
I love it. But now that Fauci is out of the news cycle, I'm out. Oh, yeah. Do some audio books. I'm Dr. Fauci in Freedom Tunes. I love it.
But now that Fauci's
out of the news cycle,
I'm out of work, man.
Well, I think this is
a great opportunity
for you to start
storytelling again.
Well, I asked Seamus
if he would let me
voice Nancy Pelosi
on his show,
and I don't think
he wants to.
But she talks like this.
Her mouth is falling
from her face.
I think Donald Trump...
You know, I definitely go over the top with it on purpose because I don't like her.
Okay, so maybe we are in the psychological world.
I think it's a storytelling era.
You're an actor.
I was an actor.
Ben, you're a performer.
I went through acting classes mainly to learn how to write.
Tim, creator, performer?
Yeah.
I was just going to say, growing up as an actor, I would get
a lot of crap, especially from, like, family members who were like, you're too smart to
be, you know, being in entertainment, doing whatever.
Like, well, everything that we're saying that we are, you know, that humanity is inherently,
you know, narrative based.
I mean, everything we learn from stories.
That's why, I mean, we spend however many hours of our week, you know,
consuming movies and television shows.
Everything that we learn is subconsciously,
you know,
coming from the stories that we are watching.
And it's so important.
And so it always disappointed me when people were going,
well,
why are you doing that?
It's like,
well,
I feel like I could be,
this is the most important work that I could be doing if I'm,
you know,
leveraging my craft,
basically in a way that is meaningful and that I think is aligned with my values, there's nothing better because that's the way that people learn.
That's the way that you change minds.
That's why it's like I don't not want to give up on Hollywood, but not want to give up on entertainment and the power that it holds. I think what Ian was trying to say is that when I tell you this next story, instead of saying Joe Biden mocked for shaking hands with thin air after speech, I should go.
So there he was.
Biden turned to his right in his mind.
The hallucination of a strong man reaching out to shake his hand.
Biden reached.
But there was nothing.
But the best part of this is Stars and stripes is on top of all of
that happening the band playing oh yeah yeah so so joe biden claims that he uh was a professor
at what you pen yes full professor he never even taught one class there yo is is like
what if the conspiracy theory you know the by dan conspiracy theory have you heard this
so it's that there's
it's he's not actually joe biden he's a replacement called bydan and like the real story is that joe
biden got plastic surgery and look kind of different but people compare joe biden before
and joe biden now and it's like it is creepy it is but he got he's older and he got plastic surgery
that's what it looks like but so there's the conspiracy theorists are like he's by dan not by den that's what they call him or whatever but uh it maybe he's like he was this guy was a professor
at upenn and now he's old and doesn't realize he's not or whatever or well no but in all seriousness
joe biden tried to shake hands with thin air i i genuinely think he may have been hallucinating
i really do mean it um i'm wondering if, or my question is,
how could he possibly mistake himself as a professor at university?
Yeah, you were explaining this, Brett.
Like he was, he actually was, got an honorary degree.
Yeah, so he, UPenn paid him.
And this is not the first time that he's claimed this
because I was reading a Daily Caller article about it.
It came out in 2019.
And in 2019, he had already been proclaiming
that he was a full professor.
But what happened was that UPenn paid him
a little over $700,000 to be like,
it was like a Benjamin Franklin honorary professor,
something like that.
Basically, all he had to do was show up around the campus,
be sort of a figurehead, wander around.
I don't know where that money went.
Who knows what he did with it?
Maybe Hunter has it.
We'll see.
He's great at wandering around.
I mean, he's fantastic at it.
Maybe that's all he thinks that professors do.
But he was paid by the university, but he was far from being any kind of professor, but in his mind.
He has a history of lying.
Like, he's a plagiarist in 88.
I brought that up before when he ran for president.
When he rubs his nose with the eyebrow, you know he's lying.
Does his tail?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
If you watch his videos, yeah.
You're a Biden whisperer, I see.
I spend a lot of time watching his videos on the internet.
As an actor, I do the same thing.
You just study people and watch them move.
Well, how many videos do we need of Joe Biden wandering around
not knowing where he's going,
not knowing what he's talking about?
Is it a mockery?
Like, at what point is it like,
how many people have been talking about it
since before even?
Like, his mind is not going to hold up.
It feels like a mockery.
It's elder abuse.
Like, he's mocking us?
Well, I mean, like, the whole thing. It kind of feels like making a mockery It's elder abuse. Like he's mocking us? Well, I mean, like the whole thing.
It kind of feels like making a mockery
of the United States. You think I'm broken?
And he acts like it? Like as
the archetypal figurehead
of the United States, at the
end of our lifespan,
there's this mockery, this guy
that can't even keep a sentence together.
I mean, I'm talking metaphorically.
I mean, obviously, there's probably a more nuanced explanation to it.
I think, and when I say sick,
I just mean that it seems like his mind has been clouded
or he's getting old, he's losing, like,
I don't know if it's onset dementia, whatever,
but a sick society will create a sick leader.
And sickness is a vague word,
but this is an example of people voting for something they hate
because they hate something else
more.
A healthy society puts the smartest
and the best in power. I don't
understand. This is just derangement.
Well, they hated Donald Trump.
And they were willing to take
the craziest, laziest,
out of his mindiest.
So that's what we get. I don't think
Joe Biden will be able to run in 2024.
Absolutely not.
I mean, Ben was saying that they're going to strap him to a gurney, but I'm like, come on.
Yeah, I guess.
But even that's not going to work.
Maybe he'll run and then try and make somebody else look good.
You know what his slogan would be?
Tune in on a shot of the pressure.
Or Nexenorescent.
Yeah.
And Batikov here.
Here's a new one.
Remember when he said
the United States
can be summed up
in one word
and he said
or something like that.
I didn't care.
My favorite is just
we're back.
We're back.
We're back.
That's the only thing
you can actually say
coherently is
we're back.
Oh, he can say
come on, man.
Yeah.
Look fat.
It's going to get real.
He's good at saying
Putin caused inflation.
Or go get him.
That was the end of his State of the Union.
His catchphrase is, it's not my fault, it's Putin's fault.
It's not my fault.
Everything.
He like slips on a banana peel.
Oh, Putin.
Did you guys see that he got shat on by a bird?
Yes.
Yeah, and everybody was like, oh, he's going to blame Putin.
Tim made a video earlier, I think, analyzing it.
What did you come up with?
So Snope says he wasn't pooped on.
It was actually corn.
Or a corn...
Corn pop.
Corn byproduct.
Corn pop.
Oh, my gosh.
Oh, it was.
A literal corn pop.
He was standing next to a big pile of corn at an ethanol plant where they take corn and
turn it into ethanol.
And so, they said it clearly was corn.
And when they show it in slow motion, you can see it hits him.
And it does break apart like
bits and not goop however here's the issue so the new york post said it was bird poop
snopes and many other outlets said it was corn and i'm like no one actually knows none of you
can prove it the white house claims it was corn you don't know that so here's what i say the splatter on his lapel the corn retains it's it's it's it's it looks like
if it was corn and it might be it's in a viscous matter of some sort because if powdered corn ball
hit you the whole thing would break apart if there was a wet ball with corn in it it would hit you
and then corn bits would splatter down but it would retain its splatter shape because there's a viscous material holding it together.
I say it's possible that there was a bird in there that ate a bunch of the corn and then pooped it out on him and it was in its poop.
Or the simple answer is, why are fact checkers claiming they know what it is when they don't?
By all means, say, we don't know if it was bird poop.
I'm fine with that.
Something fell on him. Sure. But then they're like like fact check biden wasn't pooped on i'm like
you didn't fact check that's your opinion yeah because you could like zoom in on the photo
and it's like it doesn't look like typical bird poop it's not like white it had i mean it does
now that you said the corn i hadn't seen that it does kind of look more like that i mean i got
pooped on here the other day but they called it does not look like that They called it a corn byproduct because they couldn't even say it was corn.
A corn byproduct.
It was like partially digested corn.
I imagine birds can't digest it fully or something.
Or they ate too much.
Like that giant mound, a bird could have just eaten until it got sick and barfed on them for all I know.
Maybe, yeah.
Or maybe it was a mother bird carrying food around to bring back to the babies in the nest.
Oh, hey.
I had a moment.
I was walking up to the front door of the Daily Wire building.
And as I'm walking, I'm about five feet from the wall in the door.
And I hear a splatter.
And I look and I see a little white splotch.
And I was like, oh, that was close.
And I look up and there was a little bird butt right over the edge.
It was just really awesome. I could see there was a little bird standing there and his butt hanging over. I'm like, oh, that was close. And I look up, and there was a little bird butt right over the edge. It was just really awesome.
I could see, like, there's a little bird standing there and his butt hanging over.
I'm like, he just took a dump.
What animals have you guys been crapped on?
I'll go first if you want.
Well, bird.
Last week.
Well, no.
It was like two weeks ago.
I did a hit on Ben's show, and I was walking back, and it went right there.
And I was like, yeah, live at large.
I took the bird and the snake.
The snake?
The snake was interesting because it was like this white
stuff just came out of the bottom of it on the knee
it's kind of neat
human babies
so I get pooped on often
and rabbits
which actually isn't
they're relentless shitters
but I mean like it's just these little
dry fertilizer balls
they also eat their own poop yeah they you know, they also eat their own poop.
Yeah, they do.
I was going to say their own babies.
They don't really eat their own poop.
What they're eating is, when the rabbits eat plant matter,
it has to go through their system more than once.
So sometimes poop comes out, and sometimes it looks like poop,
but it's actually just partially digested plant matter.
They turn around and eat it again.
Yeah, rabbits, people got to understand rabbits are not pets.
Nope.
It's crazy to me that people like.
Well, they freak me out too.
Yeah.
The white ones with the red eyes.
Oh, albino.
Are they considered albino?
I don't know.
I think so.
They're delicate.
They have delicate systems.
You can't really bathe them.
Like they're not great pets.
Like people get them for their kids.
They chew everything. But they're high maintenance. like people get them for their kids chew everything but they're
they're high maintenance get them a guinea pig yeah well these rabbits attack our feet they're
not smart you know like i mean they're they're fun actually but like we'll like it'll be dark
and i'm walking through the house and they'll just run straight from my feet not realizing
like i could crush you dude on accident what do they think it is?
but they're super playful
if I run away they'll run after me
and my kids
love just running across the house
do you get them fixed?
no we just have two boys
but they still hump
each other like crazy
it's funny to watch
I had some rabbits
and we understood
their warning.
Good rabbit
dealers or pet shops will explain to you
how you take care of the rabbits.
So when I was in Miami, we actually had a whole room
with just two rabbits in it.
It wasn't that big of a room,
but it was a decently sized room.
The rabbits had the room to themselves.
They poop everywhere and we feed them and then we clean and stuff.
But they started getting into it because it was a boy and a girl.
And so it didn't really work out because you know how rabbits are.
And the girl, when she didn't want it, she would jump like eight feet in the air.
Because we put up a big barrier.
So the room was like a sunroom.
It was a room but the door was just always open.
So we put a big thing in front of
it and she would just straight over it and one day i go in there and she's gone we find her upstairs
hiding because the dude rabbit was like you know he was he was oppressing her wow yeah good for a
nice way of saying it what i what i what i like about it is like there's a lot of fertilizer and i've
gotten seriously into the importance of topsoil topsoil and just the microbes in the soil and
there's like farmers around tennessee down in summertime that are like within six years going
to have like several feet of topsoil on their farm like really doing it incredibly so but they have
like guineas water buffalo different cows like tons of different animals and like really doing it incredibly. But they have like guineas, water buffalo, different cows,
like tons of different animals, and they're doing it right.
So that's why I don't mind seeing the bunny crap everywhere.
I just go around, sweep it up.
Bunny crap.
You know what this Biden getting pooped on thing makes me think of?
The Bernie Sanders when the bird landed on his podium.
Oh, yeah.
And it was like a magical moment, people.
Yeah, and then here's the other magical moment.
Oh, yeah.
Well, so we have, you guys probably know it, Chicken City.
Oh, yeah.
And those things poop everywhere.
So what I love about them is that they're smart enough not to drink poop water,
but they're not smart enough not to poop in their water.
So it's like you hand them water, they'll drink it.
They'll turn around and just take a dump right in it and look at it and go like,
I got to drink in that.
It's like, well, you did it, dude.
But when you go into the chicken coop, I always tell people,
because when people come over, they'll be like, oh, can I come check them out?
I'll be, yeah, but your feet are going to be covered, caked in just chicken crap.
And they're like, oh, you wash them off afterwards so you can just not go in there.
But, you know, chickens, they poop.
Is it safe enough to put plastic bags on your feet before you go?
I was just thinking about those painter ones.
Or just go with it.
Just be one.
When I go home to my family's farm, it's like I know for a fact that it's like I'm not coming out unscathed.
It must be good for your biome to be like, was it Joey Salatin, I think is his name?
Is it Joel Salatin?
He's a farmer.
He's all about getting in there with the pig feces and how it
enhances your biome and your immune system.
I think I'm healthier because I was
playing in the dirt as a kid.
Yeah, for sure. Because I wasn't a
Purell kid.
Purell kid. Pigs are scary.
It actually does help with allergies.
Early exposure helps with allergies.
You just got to be careful with
the parasite cycles.
But actually, having a diversity of animals, they'll eat each other's crap and break Disposure helps with allergies. You just got to be careful with like the parasite cycles. Yes.
But actually having a diversity of animals, they'll eat each other's crap and break the parasite cycles.
What?
As well.
That's weird.
Yep.
If you have them roaming around the same ground, they'll break the parasite cycles.
And also keeping quail is really incredible because they don't make a ton of noise.
Their eggs are really dense, you know, nutrient dense. And yeah, they don't make a ton of noise. Their eggs are really dense, nutrient
dense.
They don't make much noise. You can be in
an urban environment and you won't have that
noise all the time. I think I need some quails.
That sounds awesome. Chickens are noisy.
Yeah, man. We got Roberto
and then we got Roberto Jr.
He had a kid and they just yell
non-stop. The ladies are cool.
The dudes are loud.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I think the ladies are actually worse.
Really?
So, yeah, the roosters are loud, but the girls just complain all day.
They're not really complaining.
They complain to each other.
They're actually really happy, but they go around, and they go like, bark, bark, bark, bark, bark.
They're gossiping.
Yeah.
And you'll hear, like, I'll hear the con.
So it's one thing to hear a cock-a-doodle-doo once in a while or the crowing.
It's another thing when for like 30 minutes you're hearing...
Are they laying an egg when they do that?
So typically it's probably more than one chicken and they're doing the egg song.
What is that?
They lay an egg and then they sing.
Oh, wow.
Have you guys ever had pigs?
No.
I would love to.
Have you?
Well, I will.
So my mother's birthday was in February and her birthday present for me was a pet pig not a pig but it's out there but yeah I have what teacup
pig no she's no she's gonna be a full-size her name's Nora but I got her she was like two months
old I had I was here already I had her delivered to my mom had it all set up and I don't know how
big she is now her name's Nora that animal I mean so loud you if she does not want to be touched
she's super sweet and she like comes when you call her.
She's like a dog.
But if you touch her in a weird way,
I mean, it's like all hell.
I mean, the loudest thing on the farm by like a long shot.
And she has all those birds and everything.
But truly.
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to me tim i really appreciate it i think the current plan is that we're going to be at redneck
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Short stop.
I think a good hour is enough to get a handful
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Colin, your buddy, says we're writing stories for the chickens in Chicken City.
Roberto is the mayor of Chicken City
after being a weathervane model
and having an affair with Margaret Hatcher,
Mayor of Roberto 2024.
And Roberto Jr. is his illegitimate son
who's come to usurp his role.
Scandal.
Yep.
You're not my father.
In reality, though, you know,
Roberto Jr. is starting to impose himself on Roberto's ladies.
And Roberto's not having it.
The craziest thing is that, you guys, chickens do not have the same genetics as us.
So they inbreed.
They do.
It's called line breeding.
You're not supposed to do it too much, but it happens.
And they don't care.
They do not have familial relationships.
So, like, Roberto sees his daughter and Roberto Jr. sees his mom. but it happens. And they don't care. They do not have familial relationships. So, like, Roberto sees his daughter, and Roberto Jr. sees his mom,
and they're just like, don't care.
That's how it goes.
Dinosaurs do that too, I guess, then?
Chickens or dinosaurs?
I've always wondered how dinosaurs actually do it.
There you go.
You know those huge tails?
How do they mount one another?
It's just weird.
Very aggressively, I would imagine.
I don't spend a lot of time trying to figure that out all right clef the misfit says hey tim you said you're a twitter
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Steven White says,
Tim and crew, the trending movies on Netflix are
war movies, saving Private Ryan,
the imaginary game. It's almost like
they're trying to push World War III.
What did I get recommended?
I've been watching DC's Legends of Tomorrow,
and then season six, I just stopped watching DC's Legends of Tomorrow and then season 6
I just stopped watching it. That show just like
man, they jumped the shark.
It was fun. It's like a
DC superhero show, but now it's like
turns out one guy's an alien and now there's a bunch
of aliens and I'm just like, I don't know what you guys are talking
about. It's stupid.
It's just dumb.
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King Foe Panda says, Foundtt on tiktok this is
my first ever super chat i've been subbed for so long it told me i couldn't chat because i subbed
while watching child content whoa yeah had to unsubscribe to chat spin the ufo oh so if you
have a child if you have like chill like under 13 content up in one window, YouTube won't let you subscribe to over 18 shows?
Weird.
Maybe that's strange.
I think we're going to have to make sure Chicken City is for adult only.
Oh, I thought.
Because we have short chicken gags that we're making.
And we were here with Seamus.
And so we recorded one that's really funny. And it's basically, it's not meant for, it's like maybe like six to nine years old is probably where it would be if it was like a kid's show.
But it's the kind of jokes where, you know, an adult would like it too.
But then as we were like ad-libbing, we did one really dark one where it was, you know, Roberto, he's got a daughter.
You know, chickens don't really have, you know, they don't care.
And so it's about line breeding, which is when fathers and daughters and sons and mothers breed.
And I put it up on Instagram, but for some reason it wouldn't.
It was shadow banned.
Like, nobody could see it.
And I was like, well, it is particularly dark.
Like, Roberto was drunk and he was like, where are you?
And I'm like, we don't show anything.
It was just like line reading
and like a card pops up
and explains how this happens
they wouldn't allow it
and so I'm like
maybe it shouldn't be
like the darkest of humor
at all
and maybe we should just
stick to the gag humor
the gag humor joke
we have is just
Roberto screaming
and running around
flipping out
I thought kids would like it
it was like Adult Swim 2007
yeah
absolutely incredible
yeah
I thought it was good
also the first few,
like, what, what, what, what?
Like, no words.
He's drunk.
Like a drunk mumbling
from a chicken.
Oh, my gosh.
And he's drinking
mealworm IPA.
Yeah, so good.
Yeah, Kent,
our animator,
Kent Welling,
made that.
I put it up on Instagram.
They wouldn't let me,
and I was like,
maybe it's because
we say bitch in it,
so I'll censor that.
So now he says, you bicker. You know, so I don't know. But maybe I was like maybe it's because we say bitch in it so I'll censor that so now he says you
you know so I don't know
but maybe I'm like maybe we should just stick to the
stuff that's like more family friendly
it was funny because I was talking to Kent
and I was like hey here's the
sound like the voiceover stuff we recorded
don't make that one
like I think we are just you know being
vulgar and I'm like make the one
where it's just like the kids show where they're like counting how many eggs they have.
And then Roberto screams and runs around going nuts.
And I'm like, it's just silly kid stuff.
And he's like, you got it.
And then he messages me, sends the clip and he says, it has been made.
And I'm like, this one looks a little shorter than it should be.
And I played it and I was just laughing.
There's got to be a network to run that on.
Instagram wouldn't let it go.
I don't know.
Just fun chicken packs. Maybe Fox. Rumble. I think it to be a network to run that on. There's got to be. Instagram wouldn't let it go. I don't know. Just fun chicken packs.
Maybe Fox.
Rumble.
I think it's too hot for Fox.
Rumble.
Pay for it to run as an advertisement.
That's the one.
That's it.
After 10 p.m. only.
It's really good.
All right.
Let's...
Adrian Contreras says,
I'm not going to smash the like button, Tim,
but I will tickle it ever so gently.
I'm still pushing for Glenn Jacobs on the show
too. Can we make that happen? We'll take a look.
C Santos says,
my fiance is Gen Z and she can't
stand the content that Brett makes.
She thinks it's overcritical
and bullying. I've been trying
to get her to understand the culture war that's happening
but no luck so far.
I think that's the thing about the challenge of the culture war is that if someone walks up to you and slaps you in the face, and then you were like, guys, I'm really angry.
This guy's been slapping me in the face.
Let me explain to you.
People are going to be like, why are you being so mean to that guy?
I don't even know who that guy is.
They'll assume that your criticism of legitimate things is mean or wrong.
And it's like, bro, I'm not the person who's throwing paint in someone's face.
You know, like, they're the ones throwing paint at us.
It's funny to hear that, though, because I do get criticism for being too empathetic to people, though.
People on the right who are like, I did an episode about Emma Watson.
Or there was something I was doing with Demi Lovato who was like, I still really like her music.
Like, I think she's fantastic.
Like, that kind of thing.
People are like, how dare you say nice things about her?
And it's like, we're still human beings.
You can still criticize people and the ridiculous things that they do and find humor in it.
And still.
Yeah, I wouldn't say, I wouldn't say bully.
I've been watching your stuff.
And like, I mean, honestly, like it's, you definitely have your style.
But I think it's from certain perspectives.
You have people saying that you're being too empathetic and other people saying you're
bullying.
Well, if you're on the internet, you can't please everybody.
So it has to be kind of like, okay.
With comments, this is like Joe Rogan would tell people, don't read the comments.
But you actually have a show called The Comment Section.
And I love reading the comments.
Just don't take it personally.
Exactly.
Any of it.
The good stuff or the bad stuff. It's hard not to take the good stuff personally when like you're
so awesome i love when you did this thing and you're like yeah me too uh but don't take it
personally because then you start to take the negative stuff personally yeah all right well
here's terry teramoto jr says brett cooper thanks for selling me on homeschooling on your instagram
for when i have kids already hated public schools before it was cool to hate them,
so it wasn't difficult, but your stuff on homeschooling
is what made me decide
that was the solution. Amazing.
That actually makes me very happy. That's awesome.
Homeschooling. For the win.
So good.
Wouldn't have changed a thing.
Dan Yella Sanchez says,
Hey guys, I want to audition for the Daily Wire's
upcoming production as an actor.
How can one find out how to audition?
If I have to relocate to Nashville, I will do it.
Have an awesome day, guys.
Well, Brett, you run casting for Daily Wire, right?
Oh yeah, that's my other job.
I actually have, I get a lot of people,
we have a lot of people that DM me asking for jobs,
they're like, how do you find, you know, careers and that kind of thing.
I actually have no idea how the casting process goes for the films.
But I will say, if you're trying to
work at Daily Wire, you can go to our career page.
It's not too difficult to find.
It is funny when I have people being like,
where do I find it? I was like, type in Daily Wire careers.
If you really are motivated
to come work for us, I promise you, you will find a way.
Ken Pittsburgh says
we are already in the metaverse. When we
die, the carny will take off
your VR glasses you'll ask how long
you're in there and he'll point to a sign that says $5
for 5 minutes chicken city
yeah it's like
Rick and Morty when they go to Blitz
and Chitz have you guys seen that one
have you seen it
he's like let's go play Roy and you sit down
and you put this headset on and then you go limp and then you live
an entire life as some guy named Roy
and they're like they're
watching Morty play and then after
he comes out he's like where am I? I'm
Morty and Rick is like you went
back to the carpet store? Jesus
let me play and then everyone's watching him and they're like
whoa he's taking this guy off the grid
he doesn't have a social security number
oh my gosh that's amazing he's taking this guy off the grid. He doesn't have a social security number.
Yeah, it was funny.
He's taking him off the grid.
Roy.
Alright, seriously, JK says, the other day I tweeted at Elon Musk to buy
all of Twitter and then immediately shut
it down. I have not heard back from him
yet, but I'll keep you all posted. I mean,
if Elon Musk doesn't get in,
it's doomed anyway.
If Elon Musk gets the company, he'll fix it.
So, you know.
3D Pyromaniac
says, Brett should go on Mug Club
and play newest gender pronouns now.
What is that? Is that Crowder?
Yeah, it's Crowder. Love it.
I'll be at Blaze next week. Cool.
Yeah, awesome.
That's in Austin, right? Dallas.
Dallas. I was there.
How did I get that wrong?
All right.
Enslaved said,
Tim, it would be awesome
if you checked out music.
My new album is called
Defund the Politicians.
Search Enslaved Ones on here
or any streaming service.
Hey, man.
Always interested in people
making culture
and succeeding with it.
Zoidberg says,
I constantly promote free the code
but that's no guarantee that the open source code
is the same code that's running on the live system
interesting yeah
Shinobi Strongside Ian I have
I have that time
dilations almost every night
it was so bad I had to go on
disability living whole lives in
one night eventually I learned how to manage it.
Time is definitely illusion.
Oh, interesting.
Yeah, I'd love to find out how you managed it, too.
That was very cool.
I wonder if that's, like, something that a lot of people have experienced.
Like, let's actually get a name.
Because that would be a wild disorder to have.
Like, each night living a full life.
Jeez. That would be pretty wild check this out
dragon lady says deep space nine episode hard time o'brien lives a 20-year prison sentence
that's implanted in his brain in a few hours causes a bunch of psychological problems afterward
great episode crazy very cool yeah what if what if all we're all this is right now our lives are actually a metaverse we're all three years old
and the point is to give you a full life of experience and wisdom so you come out you're
three and you're like whoa and they're like we wanted to make sure that before you started you
knew what you were doing so i will eat less sugar as a teenager see see they're gonna you're gonna
come out you're gonna be three and you're gonna be like i'm alive i what come out and you're going to be three and you're going to be like, I'm alive!
What am I?
And they're going to be like, what did you learn?
What did you learn?
I'm not going to eat sugar when I'm a teenager.
You pass. Keep going.
Someone else is like, I want donuts.
Back in.
No, no, no.
That's a return.
No redemption. I was like, put them back in back in you got to go around again
yeah all right uh king king deem says or king to me says tim we already have the metaverse for
years it's called vr chat the videos about journalists living in the metaverse for days
are not original at all there's literally dozens of videos of the same kind. What Facebook did is not
relevant. No, I understand. So when we
talk about metaverse, it's typically
in reference to the coming
brain implants where they stick the
metal into your neck and then you actually
are in the metaverse.
Through a neural net. Yeah.
See, I think, I feel like
most guys would say yes instantly.
I was watching watching i want to
fight a dragon bro yeah i've been seeing videos of people going into the metaverse they'll be like i
was in the metaverse for 30 days and there's like a youtube video about it and they said one guy was
saying that a lot of people in the universe just look at look into mirrors and stare at themselves
what you'll see groups of people just staring at themselves in a mirror in the metaverse like
did you ever see that thing where they put vr headsets
on on people a man and a woman they stood in front of each other but their vr headsets were
each other's camera so the man they would like both of you look down slowly and then they would
like now feel your body and they would feel their body the same way but the dude was seeing the
woman's body and the woman was seeing the dude's body
so it's like when you touch your hands
you feel like you're in the other person's body.
Oh, that's so weird.
Yeah, creepy.
Yikes.
Yeah, and then they have like touch your leg
and so you feel like
because you're seeing in the lenses the other body.
That's mirror neurons going.
That's what allows when
when you see somebody crying or somebody fall and scrape their knee or something like that your
mirror neurons empathize to the point where you can feel it that's crazy yeah i think the illness
can yeah there's a like that sometimes too in uh like in skateboarding whenever you watch slam
videos you can feel the slam i don't it's crazy like i'll watch someone
hit the ground and i feel the jolt in my body i'm like oh man don't like that crazy right yeah
you know they say that if you don't experience that that like sociopaths don't experience that
phenomenon so it's like how they test for it they'll show you they'll show you a bit they'll
show a video of someone getting hurt in some way, and if you don't have a response, they think something's there.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's why I can't stand how just...
I'm like, I turn on Instagram and too many videos are slams.
I'm like, dude, if I see a slam coming, I'm getting out.
Because I'm going to...
You don't feel it, but you feel it.
You know what I mean?
You get that feeling?
All right.
Let's grab some more super chats.
What do we got?
D Stuff says,
have you guys heard of Vince Dow
and the American Populist Union?
He's someone I've been a fan of
for a little while.
You should have him on the show.
Keep up the good work.
I do not know who that is.
I'm going to write that down.
He's a good guy.
I know him from PragerU.
He's a really sweet kid.
Not kid, I guess.
He's a little younger than me.
Yeah.
Party Hard J says,
Twitter moderation has gotten so bad
that I got suspended today for asking you
if Redneck Riviera would be open to the public tomorrow.
What?
It was labeled hateful conduct
and my appeal was denied.
Email you guys screenshots.
Wow.
That's nuts.
Because Redneck probably...
Wow.
That's weird.
Here's the plan.
Redneck Riviera exists.
It is John Rich's venue.
We have no formal plan with the venue other than John Rich owns it.
And he said, let's go jam.
And I said, okay.
So if it's open, it's open.
If it's not, I have no idea what's going on.
But 1.30, that's the plan.
1.30 p.m.
Yep.
Yeah, Ian's going to headline.
We're going to put banners up for him.
I'll be screaming.
He'll play some songs, I guess.
You're going to be there, Ben?
I'll play something.
Yeah.
Carter will be there.
He's from Timcast.
So I think everyone will be able to get in as much as they want to play.
I'll probably only play a couple
songs. I might even have to leave early
just because we got to get on the road. But actually
no, probably not. You going? Maybe I'll come.
Oh, wow. I'll do a jig.
You play music? Yeah.
I don't play any instruments. At the very least,
if you do come, I think I'm like,
John, this place is going to be so packed.
Because people are going to drive up. People are going to head out.
I mean, it's downtown Nashville.
Which is already on a Saturday.
But John Rich
is announcing on the show he is going to
be there. So like, yo.
John Rich of Big and Rich.
If you don't know who I'm talking about.
Don't look at me. I'm like, you're telling people
you're doing a show. People are going to show up. It's going to be crazy. And he's like, yeah, yeah, of course. It's always packed. And I'm like, alright, look at me. I'm like, you're telling people you're doing a show.
People are going to show up.
It's going to be crazy.
And he's like, yeah, yeah, of course.
It's always packed.
And I'm like, all right, man.
I think we're going to need like the car pulled around back because we got it.
We got a hard stop.
We got to get on the road.
We've got missions to accomplish.
All right.
Ben says, great video this morning, Tim.
Quote, I wake up every day and lay a brick.
Great message.
Bad wording.
Very bad. Yeah. No way. No, brick laying. I'm totally fine with it. In fact, if wake up every day and lay a brick. Great message. Bad wording. Very bad. No way.
No, bricklaying. I'm totally fine with it.
In fact, if it made people laugh, all the better.
Every day I wake up, I lay a brick.
What is that? Pooping?
I poop a brick? That's also good for you.
It works for me. My body is a machine and it cranks out
large rectangular bricks.
And then I take and I go,
this is mine, and I slam it onto the building
that I'm making, and...
Magical.
Every day...
Shithouse.
Okay.
Yeah.
Every day you add a brick.
Every day you add a brick.
I love this.
What that means is,
you know,
where we are now with this crazy
fifth wheel trailer in the Daily Wire parking lot
doing shows with, you know,
these guests,
it's not like one day I woke up and I wrote
down, here's how you do all this thing. It was like, every
day I was just like, I will place this brick
right here on this building. And one day
you look, you take a step back 20 feet and you're like,
this thing's huge. It just happens
one step at a time.
Christina H says, Miss Cooper, I love your show.
Happy Friday, cast. Have fun tomorrow.
We will. We're going to be driving a lot.
Oh yeah. Good times.
JDC Gaming says there are only 31 possible plots that have ever been created for movies.
And I kind of feel like that's true.
Yeah.
Is there a villain's journey?
Yeah.
Is there?
There is, yeah.
Well, there's the hero's journey, which is the famous, you know, story map architecture.
I wonder if there's a villain's journey.
I think the whole Megamind thing. Maybe I don't want to be the bad guy anymore.
No, that's a hero's journey.
There's one in this ish.
Yeah, it's just he's still a hero.
The Watchmen, the cartoon
that's played throughout the movie, the guy on the
pirate ship. Do you remember this cartoon?
It's incredible.
I'll tell the story, I guess. He's trying to
get back home. His ship is
raided by pirates and everyone is killed except for him.
And he's on a lifeboat trying to get back to his wife and family,
but he knows that these pirates are going to kill them.
So he spends just weeks paddling to get there.
His crew is rotting, starts to rot, and then he starts to hallucinate,
and they come alive, and they're like, you did this to me,
and he's losing his mind.
He finally gets back, and he's this wild animal looking to kill these pirates.
And the town is crazy, and in the shadows he sees one of them, and he kills him. And it to kill these pirates. And the town is crazy.
And in the shadows, he sees one of them and he kills them.
And it turns out the pirate he killed was actually his wife.
Oh, my.
He became the demon that he sought to destroy.
I like Mr. Freeze better.
Do you know Mr. Freeze's story?
Mm-mm.
You're young, so I get to tell you.
You know, most comic book villains were like, I'm going to take over the world.
But Mr. Freeze, in the Batman animated series, his wife was terminally ill.
So he was siphoning funds from the corporation he worked at to work on research to save her life while keeping her frozen so that she wouldn't die.
And when the boss finds out, he comes in and he's like, this is what you've been doing with my money.
Shut it down.
He's like, no, you'll kill Nora.
And then he gets hit with all these chemicals, becomes Mr. Freeze. And and then he becomes a villain his motivation is he's trying to save his wife
so mania it's obsessive love it's a type of love that can twist people i think it's just love it's
like a guy who is willing to do whatever he has to to save his wife at the expense of others the
greeks have they've derived eight types of love one of them is mania and that means obsessive love there's like eros which is erotic love there's pragma which is like
pragmatic love like paleo brotherly love no no no it's mr freeze it was just romantic love
romantic love and and the reason he's a good, it's because it's love and loyalty, but selfishness.
That he didn't care who he hurt.
He was creating the same problem.
The people he hurt when he was trying to save his wife are experiencing the same pain that he's experiencing, but he doesn't care.
So it's narcissism and romantic love.
But it was brilliant.
I think they won an Emmy for it.
Love it.
All right.
Let's grab a couple more Super Chats as we go through. We've let's grab a couple more super chats as we go through we got we got time
for a couple more john smith says haven't used reddit since they banned the donald it was basically
them outright admitting they were absolutely partisan it's no longer a place to share content
it's a place to spread propaganda propaganda yeah i go on reddit all the time and when i see these
people be like social media isn't biased what they're just trying to do is shut up
you go on reddit and it's like
there was two subreddits
hit the top of all from me saying I don't
I went to a diner and I didn't want
to wait because they sat someone in front of me
and it was like the right can't meme posted
it and I'm like what is me
telling a story
about not waiting at a diner which was me
intentionally telling a story about me being at a diner, which was me intentionally telling a story
about me being disagreeable and kind of annoying
sometimes, have to do with right-wing
politics at all.
But that's what you get when you go on Reddit.
Rarely do you see anything
that is against the establishment.
It's always...
Sometimes you'll see r slash conservative make it up there.
But right now it's like
Elon Musk wants to buy Twitter.
Every comment is oh
this is bad and wrong every story is elon is a goblin yeah yeah yeah elon's great we look we
love what he's doing all right we got room for a couple more babic says hi i sent an email to
spin the ufo please check it out also how can i pitch my tech company idea to take over big tech
to the daily wire Is there an email?
I don't know if Brett has the answers to those questions.
Oh, yeah, you know me and all my powerful knowledge as the casting director.
Yes, right.
That's true. All right.
TXP says, my 17-year-old daughter just told me she wished technology would go away.
I told her about EMP.
Well, there you go.
Perfect.
Right on.
All right. technology would go away, I told her about EMP. Well, there you go. Perfect. Right on. Alright, Zombie Lord says, the villain's
story is the Greek story of
Physith...
Physith... Physisthus?
Physisthus. Physisthus?
Interesting. Where...
Or is it Physiasthus?
Whatever. Where the main
is forced to roll a boulder
up a hill for it to fall to the
bottom in a cycle it's sisyphus isn't it oh yeah sisyphus oh yeah but they but you know what they
wrote is physicist yeah sisyphus yeah yeah he was pushing up the boulder but he couldn't interesting
only to fall to the bottom of cycle one can only work for the power they can have absolutely all
right we'll grab this uh this we'll grab this one here brenton connor says ghost in
the shell freaks me out about neural link ghost in the shell is legit good show you've seen it
yeah if you're interested in metaverse stuff just check it out it's uh in the future people
have like prosthetic bodies so their brain or ghost is put into a different body or they get
like prosthetic eyes and all this weird stuff cool stuff ladies. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Friday night in Nashville.
We're going to go party. If you haven't already, smash
that like button. Smash it for Ian.
Crush it. Don't be afraid
of technology. It's neutral. Just use it properly.
Go tickle it.
Or tickle it.
Tickle the like button ever so gently.
Four play is okay.
Oh my gosh.
It is Friday night.
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of me, honestly. Wow, thank you very much.
What's your social media? I'm Brett Cooper
on everything. Alright.
Ben?
Yeah, go to benjosephstuart.com.
That's where you can find all my work.
I'm doing a lot of documentaries lately and pushing the envelope of conscious media.
Ian Crossland, happy to see you guys.
This was a fantastic week in Nashville.
Brett, thanks for having us to The Daily Wire.
I appreciate it. Happy to have you.
You putting it together for us. As the head of production.
But really, this has been a spectacular opportunity. And I'm so glad.
Tim, thanks for having me. This is just great,
you guys. So thanks for being here with us. And I will see you
guys next week. Yeah, this week was
absolutely an adventure. Thank you guys, everyone,
for tuning in as we mashed
it up with The Daily Wire. That was a freaking
blast. I really hope that we can do this again.
It was a great time. Met some great people,
learned some cool new stuff, and did some
interesting technological things.
Hopefully we can just go further
next time. I'm stoked. Anyway, you guys can follow
me on Twitter, minds.com at SarahPatchLids
or at SarahPatchLids.me
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