Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #510 - Twitter Adopts POISON PILL To Block Elon Musk Takeover w/Brett Cooper & Ben Stewart

Episode Date: April 16, 2022

Tim, Ian, and Lydia host Brett Cooper of the Daily Wire and Ben Stewart of benjosephstewart.com to discuss how Twitter is mulling the 'poison pill' option to prevent Elon Musk from gaining the upper h...and, the metaverse and its implications, Russian state TV saying that WWIII is already here, Warner Bros. choosing to omit a key part of a movie to appease China, and Joe Biden's continued decline. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So Elon Musk tries to buy Twitter, right? And he offers up this legitimate offer, $54.20 per share to buy everybody out. Instead of going to the shareholders, the board announces what's called a poison pill, which basically bars Elon Musk from buying up the company through public means. They may still entertain his offer, but it doesn't look like it's going to happen. And it looks like we are about to see one of the biggest culture war battles, the most significant we've ever seen. I think Elon Musk has exposed so much dirty dealing. And it says a lot about how wealthy billionaires, corporate interests are manipulating the public
Starting point is 00:00:37 and don't care about money because they're getting money from the Fed. They don't care about the cost. They want the power and the influence even recode a vox.com blog says exactly this that twitter is where journalists and politicians get out their message well surprise surprise guess who is getting banned yeah it's mostly the right it's mostly libertarians sometimes there are anti-war leftists and some left-wingers who will get banned but typically not that's the power and they know it we got a couple other other stories. You know, it's funny. We're talking about Elon Musk because of World War Three apparently started Russian state TV said the sinking of the Russian flagship, the Moskva Moskva. Well, I'm sorry, not specifically, but after this, they said the weapons we are up against are from NATO. They're
Starting point is 00:01:21 trying to maintain that the ship sank due to a fire but the ukrainians are saying we basically hit it with a neptune missile so we'll talk about that oh we definitely got to talk about the secrets of dumbledore it's friday we're gonna get into it i haven't seen it but joining us to explain what's wrong with the plot is brett cooper hey guys how are you i mean okay so well you know we don't need to get into it right now. Dump it in. It's just, it's interesting. It's a mediocre film.
Starting point is 00:01:48 The real story on our end is that they gutted the plot for the Chinese version because Dumbledore prefers the company of men. And in China, they're like, no, no, we can't, you know. It's a real secret. That's just for America. It's just for America. So, yeah, Brett, do you want to introduce yourself?
Starting point is 00:02:09 Yeah, I am Brett Cooper. I am the newest host at daily wire i host the comment section with brett cooper it's a daily social media cultural reaction show it's been up and running for about a month now it's super fun i come from a background in acting i was a professional actor for 10 years in los angeles went to ucla now I'm here in Nashville doing politics and culture. It's fun. Cool. Thanks for coming. We also got Ben Stewart. I'm actually Michaela Peterson, but none of you are biologists, so it's okay. Yeah, that's right. I'm going with it. No, benjosephstewart.com. That's where you can check out all my films, all the work that I do. Also, Ben Stewart podcast on YouTube. and happy to be back. I think this is my fourth
Starting point is 00:02:46 time. Yeah, man. Glad to have you. It's the fourth turning. That's right. We'll get into that too, maybe, with the World War III stuff, for sure. We got Ian. Hi, everyone. Ian Crossland. You know me. And you love me. What's up? And I'm also here in the corner pushing buttons. I'm excited to have Brett. I always love having ladies on
Starting point is 00:03:01 and tonight's going to be a super chill evening, especially with Ben. It's going to be good. Alright right, before we get started, my friends, you've got to head over to TimCast.com. Become a member to help support the work we do here, these trips we do. We came down to the Daily Wire headquarters so we could do fun stuff. You guys, if you didn't see it,
Starting point is 00:03:16 we did this crossover stream where I ran out of the trailer and they're filming it with remote tech. All of this is possible because you guys are members helping us grow the company, hire more people, expand the business, and we're taking over the world figuratively with your help. We're going to challenge the media and you're going to get access to exclusive members of, I'm sorry, exclusive episodes of the TimCast IRL podcast. But what I wanted to say is I used to say that if you guys like, share, subscribe, you share this video, we could be bigger than CNN. That's right.
Starting point is 00:03:48 If every person watching right now just shared the URL, we could be bigger than CNN. Well, ladies and gentlemen, CNN Plus has less daily active users than we do. So I guess, you know, we've sort of met that milestone. So thank you. We really appreciate it. And all of you who are members are a part of that movement where you can laugh and say that you support real media and cnn plus is failing i just want to say one thing on that i see these journalists constantly promoting cnn plus who don't work there and i'm just like it's sad at this point it's like i know your friends have a company and it's not working
Starting point is 00:04:19 but stop trying to make it happen it's like it's not going to happen so uh yeah well let's let's talk about the news again smash, smash that like button. The first story we have here from TimCast.com. Twitter board utilizes poison pill to stop Elon Musk from buying the company. The plan intends to reduce the likelihood that any entity, person, or group gains
Starting point is 00:04:37 control of Twitter. Check this out. Do you guys know how this works? Kind of. So this is if Elon Musk tries to buy up more than 15% of of the company they're going to offer special stock to the other investors at a discount rate so they can dilute the equity power that elon would have meaning no matter how much he buys the other investors can buy up and take away the power he's buying they're they're effectively destroying their own company to stop Elon Musk from ending their censorship. Wow.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Yeah, that's probably because the Saudi Arabian king is involved with... The prince as well. The Saudi Arabian state as well. So I imagine it's all going to the king. Elaborate. I know there's a prince who invested. The prince tweeted out and it also said that the state itself. He said the kingdom and...
Starting point is 00:05:23 But is that just his company? Well, to be honest, to be fair, I don't know. I assume that that was the state itself. He said the kingdom. But is that just his company? Well, to be honest, to be fair, I don't know. I assume that that was the kingdom itself. Yeah, I saw Zero Hedge tweeted that he actually sold his shares. I don't know if that's true. Really? The prince sold his shares. I don't know if that's true.
Starting point is 00:05:35 It's hard to know. But I think the big play here is the people who own Twitter, as we mentioned the other day and what we can get into now, they want the power, the power of twitter to control the conversation saudis aside i think it's vanguard vanguard up their stake to say now we own more than elon so there's some very nefarious corporate interests that want control of this mouthpiece that is twitter what do you guys think vanguard and uh blackrock have a pretty substantial disney stake as well yeah. They also own Groomalicious, which is weird. They own 2% of the other and stuff like that. It's inbred, if you will. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Sorry, I had to go there. It's true. It's a little inbred when it comes to the money. Here's the crazy thing, right? Let me ask you this question, Brett. Do you use Twitter a lot? Yeah. Have you always used Twitter a lot? No, only this year. See, because only this year it's only for a few months or no as of last so in the last year it was like early 2021 and you are 20 years
Starting point is 00:06:31 old gen z and you're only recently getting involved in twitter yep twitter is it's like the political space right like how do your friends feel about it younger people honestly it is not the most used i think instagram and tiktok are just what is most heavily dominated in politics everybody is on twitter so my friends that are in the political sphere they are very active but outside of that people will have like a burner account basically where they go to just look at memes but they don't tweet anything they're not involved it's kind of like oh yeah i'll check twitter but it's a very thing in normal circles that's kind of outdated like oh that's just whatever and i. But it's a very, I think in normal circles it's kind of outdated. It's just whatever. And I never really had a reason or an interest in being on it
Starting point is 00:07:09 until I started. I was writing for Fee and they were like, you need to be on there to promote your articles and that kind of stuff. But that's not even true. So when I worked at Fusion, they didn't have Twitter. I think, it's been a while, but we had a conversation about how
Starting point is 00:07:25 you know websites like to put the social media links so you can tweet out the story post the stories and they didn't care about twitter and ask them why they said twitter doesn't drive traffic and so i was like okay for me i was like twitter's really important but back in the day when it was the free speech wing of the free speech party it was really important now you know like i mentioned i'll post like a picture of a hairless rabbit for no reason and just post nonsense because the platform is garbage. Twitter's kind of like the repository social media
Starting point is 00:07:51 network. I signed up in 08, didn't use it until 2019 because I thought it was crap, but YouTube is where it's at. The video makes you famous and then they come and follow you on Twitter when they find out you have a Twitter account. No one finds you on Twitter. That's not how it works. Maybe not no one, but it's not.
Starting point is 00:08:07 People found me on Twitter when they realized that I looked like Ben Shapiro. That's where I got the bulk of mine. I had like 400 followers and then Jeremy retweeted the side-by-side of me and Ben and it was like, okay, now you have 20,000. Pinch tweet on your account right now. Yeah, you can go check it out. People were chatting, female Ben Shapiro.
Starting point is 00:08:24 But you're taller. I am. Ben's actually not that short. That's the funny thing. We just hung out with him the other day, and I'm like, everybody says he's short. And then he walks up to me, and I'm like, oh, he's actually a fairly average, totally normal guy. They just like lying and making things up because they want to hate on people. But anyway, back to the reason I was asking you these questions.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Twitter's a failing company. Like, yo, I'm 36. Ian's 75. You look good, though. No, but in all seriousness, we're an older demographic, and you have to get young people involved in your culture if you want
Starting point is 00:08:59 that culture to persist. Twitter seems to be on a train track that leads just flying off a cliff. They're not convincing young people to be involved in what Twitter is. They have turned Twitter into an activist blog. Yo, I called this. I said several years ago, and they were banning all the fun people, the trolls and the silliness and the memes. I was like, dude, it's going to turn into a left-wing activist blog,
Starting point is 00:09:20 and it's going to have 10 people, and eventually it's going to be one guy, and some people might visit it. So why would a young person want to go on a platform to be lectured by old fogies complaining about policy yeah yeah instagram and i think instagram and tiktok you mentioned is it's pictures and video i mean it's video for the most part twitter's text it's a lot of texts you know you go there to read and research essentially but not to have fun i don't know yeah fun for you i mean i enjoy it because for my show, which is technically me diving into
Starting point is 00:09:47 comment sections and that kind of thing, it's my... I know. It's the... I go into the trenches, my friends. It's the hub of my research, basically, so I enjoy it, but most of the stuff that I'm looking at is batshit crazy things, and so I
Starting point is 00:10:03 personally enjoy it, but I wouldn't go on there if this wasn't like my work i would probably choose tiktok i would choose youtube yeah i would but it used to be fun people would go on and they'd post memes they'd share memes like crazy and they would uh troll yeah trolling was fun and then we get this like the ceo now uhag Agrawal, he's like, you know, it's not about free speech. It's about the current state of things and having a healthy conversation. And it's like, dude, if I wanted to go
Starting point is 00:10:33 to like a youth seminar where they explain to me, you know, morals or something, sure, I'd book it. If I want to go and just post my thoughts and tell people like here's a funny joke, you can't do that on Twitter anymore. So what do you do? You got to go and just post my thoughts and tell people like, here's a funny joke, you can't do that on Twitter anymore.
Starting point is 00:10:48 So what do you do? You got to go somewhere else. What about Reddit? Is Reddit still, I use Reddit sometimes, but how are they with censorship? Like, Oh,
Starting point is 00:10:54 it's the worst. I was going to say, that's what I heard. I know that. Yeah, dude, that used to be, you know what it is.
Starting point is 00:10:58 It's like, it's like, it feels like it, like the school principal has taken over the social media platforms. And it's like we used to, you know, throw bouncing balls down the hall and then run after it. Now the principal's in the hallway all day going like, hey, you don't do that. We're like, this is so lame. Let's go somewhere else. I think Lauren Southern tweeted out that it was like only five years ago that if someone got banned off of YouTube or Twitter, it was like global news.
Starting point is 00:11:23 And now, geez, you blink and then a bunch of accounts are gone. I don't know. Who's the most recent ban? Does it even matter? It's disturbing how slippery the slope can be. Remember how fun Alex Jones was? Yes. Was there a point where you ever used Twitter even a little
Starting point is 00:11:40 bit before? Never. And that's the thing I think where i look at the elon musk stuff and i'm just like dude twitter is blowing itself up on purpose yeah it has to be because that was another thing that i felt with elon that it's like i love what he's doing the statement that he's making but i also kind of had the opinion like it already is like you're saying a sinking ship there's so much other crap that's going on in the world there's so many communities that need us that i mean you know everything else and it's like this is great but also no he's right elon musk is right
Starting point is 00:12:09 yeah he he posted the top 10 twitter accounts that some of them haven't even posted this year like justin bieber or whatever yeah because the platform is dead yeah there's users on it they gain a little bit of users dude you know we were talking to jeremy about this and he's like hey i said i don't even take it seriously anymore i used to post news stories now it's like i just i i post like chicken city is some great accomplishment because i'm just i'm like it's a it's a garbage platform filled with garbage people who just want to just they rag on you they lie about you they smear you there's no good conversations there's no fun there's no jokes you'll get banned for saying learn to code i don't take it seriously and then you know he's like you have a million
Starting point is 00:12:49 followers though and i'm like i don't i don't know why but i actually do know why it's what you said youtube fam well people will watch these shows and then they'll follow on twitter because they want to just like see their news feed and see information but i i can't take a platform seriously if it's dying and it is i i can gain followers i'll put it this way let's say there's a hundred million people that are using the site at any moment sure i have a million followers so i can lose a bunch and gain a bunch within that sphere but it feels like the sphere of actual functioning valuable users is just going down elon said it was like the town square and that's why he wants to buy it to free it. I don't know
Starting point is 00:13:25 if he's right about that. I'm on it a little bit, but it's such a small thing. It's kind of like the bathroom stall wall. It feels like. I wonder if him just saying, okay, forget it. I'm not buying it. Let it fail might be the right move. Then try and waste energy and time
Starting point is 00:13:41 pouring all this money into some relatively dying platform. It'd be cool if you could free the software code, but we really don't need it. What would be the town square, though? YouTube? Yeah, I guess. I think so. What do you think? It's not centralized. There's disparate communities. The thing about Twitter is it's really easy to overlap
Starting point is 00:13:57 with different groups. Ben was mentioning that he trends once every three weeks, and it's because one of his tweets will merge into another community, which will then go nuts about it. YouTube doesn't do that. YouTube is much more rigid. You don't get shown stuff that is outside of there.
Starting point is 00:14:18 It's very siloed. You can't retube a video. True, yeah. And so they used to have that. Your channel page. You could post stuff on your channel page and all your followers would see your channel posts that was like in 2007 you i think you can still do that if you like community yeah yeah you like stuff and and but youtube can't capture that so twitter became this rapid it became political because it's what are
Starting point is 00:14:40 you posting you're posting ideas youtube you ideas. YouTube, you're posting videos. Instagram, you're posting photos. So it makes sense that the platform that typically is about text, idea, concepts, information would become political news, some of the highest level stuff. The problem is Twitter sought to light itself on fire, burn itself to the ground, and make it a trash platform that nobody wants to use.
Starting point is 00:15:00 I thought it was doomed from the beginning. 2008, there's videos of me in 2008 when all the people were like, hey, this new thing. It's Twitter. I'm like, oh, great, another one. We just did Facebook. We already have YouTube. What are you guys doing?
Starting point is 00:15:10 We just have our – and they're like, we got to tweet our message, our six-word messages to each other. I'm like, dude, text is going to warp our minds. Don't fall into it. I agree and disagree, especially with the text warping your mind. But I disagree on the prospects of Twitter. When I started using it, I think I signed up in 2009, I was like, what's the big deal with this? And then within a little while, I was like, whoa, now I get it. The rapid virality.
Starting point is 00:15:33 You tweet something, and if it's good information, if it's a funny joke, it ripples outward in a massive wave that gets bigger. That little pebble you drop can become a tsunami. Remember that woman who was on a plane and she made that joke about AIDS? Oh my gosh, yeah. And then her phone was off and then when she landed
Starting point is 00:15:49 they destroyed her life. She had like 200 followers. You ever hear this story? Mm-mm. This lady had like 200 followers and then she made a joke about how white people tend not to get AIDS in Africa
Starting point is 00:15:59 but it was actually a social justice joke. The point she was making was that the people who are mostly victimized by this tend to be black. And she said it in a tongue-in-cheek way. This was like one of the first major cancellations, I think. The tweet went viral.
Starting point is 00:16:14 And she was just some like random woman. And she lands and she like had a panic attack. There were news stories written about her. They were going nuts. You know what ends up happening is people like there's this viral thread going around explaining how elon musk will not be able to save the platform because he doesn't understand that web web 1.0 is over the era of the wild west internet is gone and this guy explains that in the beginning of the internet it was it was frontier. It was barren wastelands.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Yeah, you can go out into the middle of a barren wasteland and scream whatever stupid, ridiculous nonsense you want because ain't nobody going to hear it. Eventually, some people show up, and then those who don't like hearing the crazy guy in the desert screaming leave, and those who think it's funny stick around and watch. But where we're at now with the internet, the foundations have been built. It's not just the frontier anymore. It's totally urbanized. The internet now is the world. You can't just go into the middle of the city and start screaming insane things. The cops will come and tell you to keep it down.
Starting point is 00:17:14 They'll say you have your free speech, but you can't scream. People will come and scream back at you. A fight might break out. And so what this guy is saying is because of that, censorship emerges. And he's like the only thing the big tech platforms want is for you to calm the F down, be civil. And I'm reading this and I'm like, dudes write about the frontier thing, wrong about the censorship and what they want.
Starting point is 00:17:34 The people at Twitter are all biased. Not every single person. I mean like the higher ups, they are. They think they're not. They are. It's baked into their rules. They will ban you for calling someone dude, like when they suspended Zuby. not they are it's baked into their rules they will ban you for calling someone dude like when they suspended zoobie and this makes it not fun and if you're
Starting point is 00:17:50 not having fun you're doing it wrong i don't want i'll put it this way how many of you on your day off would decide to go somewhere so that someone can scream in your face about how ugly you are you'd be like i know i'll just go to the movies instead, right? That's what Twitter has become by eliminating the fun and by their outright bias. I think what you said about the Web 1 concept is definitely true.
Starting point is 00:18:19 And you see Facebook changing the name to Meta. The Metaverse, according to Bloomberg standards, should be like an, I think they said like an $800 billion industry by 2024. And I'm just curious how Twitter would be able to kind of keep up in that kind of direction. I know that text will always be relevant in that respect. I just kind of wonder, it's less versatile. I wonder if it could start moving in that direction. If Elon buys it and links it up with the neural net, maybe.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Yeah. I was going to say, when I asked about the town square thing immediately, the first thing that came to my mind was, well, maybe it will be the metaverse. And especially if it's Web 2.0 or whatever this is, where we're talking about cops are screaming at you, that kind of thing. I'm imagining there was this, I think it was Wall Street Journal. They had one of their journalists go live in the metaverse for 24 hours, and she did a YouTube video about it.
Starting point is 00:19:09 She was like, they put her in a hotel room, and they gave her food. And she had to do, like, all of her meetings. She worked out. She, like, went to bars in it. And she just lived in it, and she had to deal with all of these random people. And I was like, oh, my God, maybe that is the future of our social media. And so imagine what censorship would be like in the metaverse i got it like i was just gonna say there's a it's something that truth theory on instagram posted that there's a guy who lived a week in
Starting point is 00:19:34 the metaverse he only had the goggles on and uh he like he would whatever like eat everything and he said that there were like amazing aspects to it because he would go to like meditation class and he was meditating for like an hour two hours a day um but like there was parts of it that were making him go insane and his dream dreams really messed up because of it dude i had a dream three nights ago where i was in a video game but it was realistic it was like this and in order to get through the part that i was at i had to kill a dog in the game you know like in warcraft world of warcraft you have to fight dogs and stuff. But it was real and it was a little dog. And I was like, how do I do this?
Starting point is 00:20:09 They were like, the most humane way, you know, you got to choke it. So I did in the dream and it was so disturbing. And now I'm thinking about these people going into the VR metaverse and they're going to be killing things like a video game, but it's going to seem real. What is that going to do to people? Video games make people violent. It may be
Starting point is 00:20:27 sickeningly disturbing. I agree and disagree. I think there are going to be... It's very different from playing a video game with the controller where you're watching a screen and you have some kind of avatar or first-person shooter. We've seen many studies that video games don't cause violence. They can desensitize in other ways
Starting point is 00:20:44 that can make violence worse if you're prone to it i think the real issue is that if if you're a regular person and you do metaverse stuff i don't think you're going to go around beating dogs but if you're prone to these things then this could exacerbate or at least desensitize you and make you know the tendency to violence worse a lot of video games maybe i don't 90 80 percent of them are fighting shooting punching, punching, kicking. Like if you get that and that's all of a sudden all these people are. Geez. Sorry, Ben.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Well, I've done a deep dive. There's into the metaverse and welcome to the metaverse. These two podcasts, I think, into the metaverse is Bloomberg specific. And like just going deep on like, what is this? And a lot of people, a lot of the execs that they have, they're like, this is huge, but it's not like crypto. It's not something you just dump money into. You need to understand what it's here to do and why there are countries, like I think it was Sweden, that bought sizable real estate there for their embassy and stuff like that. So you can go and kind of be in person but they're like what they're really saying is like it's not like a video game
Starting point is 00:21:49 think video games having to bend to meet the internet so it's spatial web you're interacting with the internet it's not exactly like a video game so you're right there's a lot of violence and stuff like that there but But this is gaming meeting virtual, like internet stuff that you would do to go and get paperwork done. And the one thing I was thinking about when you were mentioning the dream is the technology that's coming out, potentially being able to give people eyesight
Starting point is 00:22:17 that is only virtual, but seeing something, you know, like hooking it in and they're seeing what they're seeing, like through camera. They wear these glasses in the same way that the heads up displays mojo vision, all the that kind of stuff works, but they're
Starting point is 00:22:32 actually seeing it through their vision. So there's things like that. I got something for you. You got time for a project? Do something crazy? Yes. Get a VR headset, Bluetooth link it to a 360 camera, wear a backpack and have a 360 camera on a monopod going up over your head. Have the 360-degree view on your VR visor screen and learn how to see in 360.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Crazy. Yeah, we planned that project a while ago, but we never actually did it, even though it's extremely easy to do. But the idea is out there. Anybody who wants to do it, do it. I have mixed emotions, but I think I would do it. Have you ever, like in school, they would put these mirrored glasses on to where you see the world upside down,
Starting point is 00:23:15 and you would just throw a ball back and forth, but you wouldn't see it going up like this. You would see it coming down and up, and it was super weird. But once you got the hang of it, it took like 15 minutes, and eventually you got the hang of it, it took like 15 minutes, and eventually you got the hang of it. Then you take the glasses off, and you have to adjust again.
Starting point is 00:23:32 It takes another 15 minutes to adjust back to the normal way. Let me ask you, Brett. Would you get the Neuralink and plug your brain into a computer? I don't think so, no. Why not? I don't trust it. I don't know. I'm just very wary about all of it so i
Starting point is 00:23:47 was even though i you know live on social media now for work i was raised without television did not barely watch any movies growing up was not allowed to play video games was not allowed to have social media until i was you know 16 or something like that one of the reasons why I wasn't on Twitter. Just read a ton. I was a classic homeschooled kid. But I just don't really trust that. And also with some part of Neuralink where they want to be able to control dopamine levels and that
Starting point is 00:24:16 kind of thing. I know that's part of it. Is that a part of it? Some of it is. And it's like that... That's scary. And it's like that part of it, I think there's something that's interesting. I think the technology is fascinating. And it's like that part of it, I think there's something that's interesting. I think the technology is fascinating. And it's like if you want to try, go ahead. I'm just not going to really be your guinea pig. I think I trust myself more than I trust technology.
Starting point is 00:24:33 So that's the key right there is like technology is doing something that it's not that we can't do these things. There are ways. But a lot of the times it's like what's the easiest way to do it? Take this pill and then forget about it. Don't engage with your healing. Well, it reminds me of just everything these days. I feel like I look at the world and it's like you can get your groceries delivered to you. You can use an app and suddenly somebody's coming and hanging up something in your house.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Everything is digitalized to the point that it's like I could just stay and never leave my house. And my life would function on whether it would be like you know wearing VR goggles being on zoom like everything that feels very tactical and real in the world slowly being eroded in my eyes and then add you know big pharma and we're just medicating the
Starting point is 00:25:17 crap out of my generation I'm looking forward to the psychedelic metaverse people are going to be like heavily on psychedelics. They're making patches. They're making patches for just that. So patches, think cocktails, MDMA, ketamine, slight doses, but you go in to have whatever kind of experience you want to have. I think that's why psychedelics have gone IPO like gangbusters lately,
Starting point is 00:25:41 is this idea of also where the metaverse is going. These fully immersive experiences where like 1984, you almost don't revolt against it. It's servitude in a sense, but you don't revolt against it because you have everything at your disposal. Why get off the couch? I was thinking a new career might be like a nanny.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Metaverse nannies. They make sure you're fed and that you're able to poop and pee and take it away for you and make sure your body's clean. You can get robots to do that. The distinction here is the current metaverse is like you wear goggles. The future metaverse with Neuralink is you lay down in some kind
Starting point is 00:26:16 of sensory deprivation chamber floating and you plug in your brain and then all of a sudden your brain experiences the metaverse. Somebody should make a movie about that where you're like in this warm brain and then all of a sudden your brain experiences the metaverse somebody should make a movie about that where you're like in this warm gooey liquid and you're hooked up in the back of your head and experiencing but you every day you know you wake up you go oh man what a day and you're and check this out you're ripped you're as fit as fit can be no no and you don't work out
Starting point is 00:26:43 because when you can plug your brain in, it just controls stimulation. So while you're sitting in the metaverse, your body's just twitching and being programmed to build this perfect lean body in every way, processing the right nutrients, craving the right things. Or they just plug in the feeding tube and you put it in your throat and then plug yourself in and you don't have to realize. I wonder what would the purpose of life then be if we were just hooked up? To fight dragons! Obviously! What do you think is the purpose? That stresses me out. What do you think is the purpose of life? Productivity and work. More of an objectivist. What would you think is the purpose of life? Productivity and work. Towards what end?
Starting point is 00:27:26 I'm more of an objectivist. What did you say about learning? Real quick, just to what end? How far would I go? If the point of life is productivity and work, to what end? Is it just indefinite work and creation or is there something where you're going? To leave the world a better place than I started it
Starting point is 00:27:44 or to create something tangible. Can it always be better? I think so. Within the realm of physical creation, shouldn't there be some point where we're like, it cannot get any better than this or something? Maybe. Do you think that? I don't know if that's possible because I feel like human innovation is kind of difficult to. I suppose the thing is
Starting point is 00:28:05 if we were to say like what's better it would be people being well fed, safe good medical care and things like this and better dwellings, better living and we've dramatically improved that thanks to capitalism mind you and with the metaverse one could argue that you'll have everything you've ever wanted all of those things
Starting point is 00:28:22 but it's more like heroin than it is actually making the world a better place yeah you're starving you're you're frail and shaking in the corner and you're like i i don't want to go work man you just plug me in the metaverse and then you walk over and you're shaking you're like super pale and then you plug your brain in and then you flashes and you're standing there six foot six super ripped nba star and you're like yeah and you're dunking and people won't want to NBA star, and you're like, yeah, and you're dunking. People won't want to walk away from that. Or it's good that haptic feedback is going to make your muscles strong.
Starting point is 00:28:50 You'll be able to live like six days in the span of 20 minutes, and you'll have all this knowledge when you come out, and you'll be a superhuman. That's going to be hard to compete with. There's so much nuance with this because that's a possibility for sure, but I think that what we're talking about here because like that's that's a possibility for sure but i think that like what we're talking about here is like what's you were saying to what end and could the value come from being hooked up to the metaverse like imagine if 7.5 billion were hooked up to the metaverse
Starting point is 00:29:17 perhaps the planet would do better you know perhaps some species would would or the rate of extinction would slow down but i i also feel that like humans when you had uh was it was it michael knows and knolls and jeremy uh no michael knows and jeremy boring were on last night okay i thought shayna's was on he was also on last night yeah okay yeah so so that was the one that i was listening to when you guys were having the would it be better to save the dog with the cure for cancer you know like i was thinking about all that and the one that I was listening to when you guys were having the, would it be better to save the dog with the cure for cancer? I was thinking about all that. And the way that they were putting it is like, I feel like we are here to engage with what's already here.
Starting point is 00:29:55 And to improve upon it is debatable. It's definitely debatable. that like with much of technology, it's not that we've been ripped from being able to, to acknowledge that we have what we need here. And a lot of it is like, if we were hooked up to the metaverse, would the planet actually be doing better? Or would we be missing the point? Well,
Starting point is 00:30:19 you know, not every person on the planet is destroying it. So maybe what we would need is some powerful individual to create a system where we can round up all of those that we deem unfit and force them into the metaverse. I like this idea. Yeah, you know, and then the world will be a better place once those people are no longer allowed to
Starting point is 00:30:35 engage with it. I think China would have the stomach to do that. Oh, yeah. And then you know what we could do? Like if there's a pandemic, we could weld people's doors shut and seal them inside until they starve to death. Yeah. Something about these. Perhaps the metaverse will be fine.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Yeah, because, okay, that's a good point. No one's going to want to be stuck and imprisoned in the metaverse. People, like any good slave, they're going to want you to want to be in it. That's right. Brave new world. Not 1984. Well, it's like the World Economic Forum thing where they're like, in 2030, you will own nothing.
Starting point is 00:31:02 You will, well, what is that? You'll be happy. You'll be happy. Yeah, that kind of thing. That makes me think of the metaverse. But that may be true. They say you will own nothing. I think we should correct that statement from the World Economic Forum.
Starting point is 00:31:15 What they should say is, you will own the Dragon's Bracers of Ultimate Power and the Level 99 Sword of Volsiferon, NFT, and you'll be so stoked. The problem is you only own a license to the game that they give you it in. No, no, no. Because if I get banned off Steam, then I don't have access to any of those games.
Starting point is 00:31:34 No, no, no. You'll own the NFT. You just won't have a house, clothes, a car, friends, family. You'll have your pod, though. You'll have the floating pod. And the best part is you don't have to eat the bugs. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:31:44 When you're in the metaverse, the bugs just flow through the feeding tube into your gut. And you don't got to think twice. Has anyone seen the new Blade Runner with Ryan Gosling? No. A while ago. It's a glimpse. Jared Leto's role in that and what he's talking about, how we lost our stomach for slavery. So now we started creating the slaves like full-grown adults and
Starting point is 00:32:05 stuff like that soundtrack is dope in that by the way too but like very revealing the way they look at like kind of the future of where commerce is going and having like virtual sex slaves and things along those lines i think blade runner the one with ryan gosling it's kind of an eye-opener people are going to go insane from the metaverse because you take a look at what's going on now with kids and let's just try to be family-friendly. Adult content on the internet
Starting point is 00:32:31 being so just... Pervasive? Pervasive. Two-thirds of the internet? The eclectic nature of it. Meaning like, was it Rule 34? Rule 34, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Is that the one where it's like if it exists, there's porn of it? Correct. Okay, so the old rules of the internet. Imagine what happens when you're in the metaverse, and it's not just an image you can look at, but you can actually experience. And so Black Mirror did an episode about this
Starting point is 00:32:58 where the guy, he goes into the video game where he's a woman, and he bangs a panda. People are going to go crazy because they're gonna get out and be like you know i'd love to have a family with you but i'm only attracted to clouds it's like what what in the metaverse you can go up the cloud and talk to it and do what you want to do you know what i'm saying we're sort of at that point with people in neo pronouns like i was looking at a girl on tiktok recently and she was like i identify as like death death self and plant plant self i mean there is like yeah plant self
Starting point is 00:33:25 and it's where are you did you see doll self no but that was not surprising she like shaved her head and she's like i am doll horrifying like one eye like goes you know it's out there with the furries it's worse yeah i mean look look look i'm fairly libertarian if i don't care if people want to you know dress up however i want to dress up or metaverse what they want to do the point is at a certain point people are going to segment away from there's not going to be a cohesive society
Starting point is 00:33:54 that's my point the problem is that kids are going to go in with haptic feedback full body suits on so they can feel everything they're experiencing and then someone else, an old man is going to be in there shaped as a cloud and he's going to be like come here chop and the kid will go up and basically have sex with this
Starting point is 00:34:09 digital sex with this other person and it's going to warp because yeah they'll be doing it with AI and interacting but it won't be the same as with another human on the other end bro there's going to be a predator in the game and someone's going to meet it's going to be a catfish dude you're going to be a 30 year old
Starting point is 00:34:26 straight guy in the metaverse and you're going to meet this you know attractive young blonde woman and you're going to do the haptic feedback stuff and it's going to turn out to be like a 63 year old morbidly obese man who's like yeah that's right young man I think this is where the identity
Starting point is 00:34:41 fluidity is coming in I definitely believe that if not intentional, it's working towards what you can become in the metaverse. In the metaverse, there's already been like, I don't know if it was straight rape because it didn't have the functionality in the game
Starting point is 00:34:58 to do it, but harassment like several guys coming up and cornering a girl and just not letting her out that's happening you can block someone in the metaverse you should call it metaverse cops i mean like you just you know you go like this you go i'm for those that are listening i'm motioning my hands taking the goggles off and then you're like but i had to take my goggles off and i didn't want to yeah against my will. Or you just click the button that teleports you to the other room.
Starting point is 00:35:27 That could be another one. But a lot of what I think this is doing, when you were saying the haptic suits and as I was saying with the patches that can modulate hormones, as well as Terrell McSweeney, I think she worked under Barack Obama. She's now talking about the Internet of B and how they're like the it's how's it going to get classified is it going to be something where if you have a handicap you can fix it by getting your eyesight back or is it an upgrade and then once it goes that far they've already talked about if you're a sex offender and this was i think in 2016 tara mcsweeney was or 2017 she was talking about this you you can have one of these implants that can lower your create more inhibition against some of those drives of sexual predators.
Starting point is 00:36:13 So then then they had to start getting into, well, are they allowed to have those drives? What about prison and what prison is? Let's imagine we get to the point where a neural link is a plug in your brain, right? Because Elon Musk's already done that with the pigs where they put the electrodes. Let's say we get to the point where you actually have a port and it's wireless. You can wirelessly connect to the metaverse. Let's say you're a child predator. You get convicted.
Starting point is 00:36:41 And so they say we're sentencing you to 15 years in the metaverse, but in the metaverse, it's a mundane existence where you can never act upon any of these urges and you're internal in your own basically virtual prison. Your body is being programmed to do menial labor. So the prison sentence is your body is just, what can I get for you today? We have a double cheeseburger on the menu. In your mind, your conscious self is trapped in this metaverse reality, which is a prison. That's like Handmaid's Tale. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:12 I'm also scared that about time warping in the game or in the metaverse, not a game, where it will literally feel like 15 years of your life, but it's only 20 minutes. Like Inception. And they can just snap you in and you're like or you'd even do it to yourself you're like I want to live a life and you do it and it's like when you come back you barely even remember your your friends when you
Starting point is 00:37:32 come back there's a there's a show about that we mentioned I can't remember if it was a show or a movie where this guy invents the like eye drops and that connect they can make their nanobots that can probe their program to make you experience a certain amount of time so the original idea is like it's a you drop it in your eye, and then you're on a ski trip.
Starting point is 00:37:50 And so it's like, in the blink of an eye, you have a weekend in Aspen. But then the guy's like, I want to turn into a prison. And so he makes like a 50-year sentence or whatever, something like that. And then this woman gets trapped in it or something. I don't know, something like that. It's crazy. I think you might be referring to an episode of Black Mirror.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Was it Black Mirror? Yeah, it was some guys who were up north in one of these, like, like an Arctic fort or something. And they realized that they were not actually in reality because they couldn't go outside. They couldn't do anything.
Starting point is 00:38:19 They were like, oh, my God. No, it's a different movie I'm talking about. And there was a lady who got stuck in it. She was, like, screaming, trying to get help. And it felt like years and years had passed and it had been like 10 minutes or something. That is one of the most horrifying things to me. The idea of being able to get people to believe that it's been a really long time, kind of
Starting point is 00:38:35 a Rip Van Winkle effect. It's like insane. Like, I really don't like the direction this could go. Like, who knows how we could psychologically torture people? I think it's called Other Life. Interesting. Do you remember when I was talking about the fourth turning, the first time I came on,
Starting point is 00:38:49 and it was like during a crisis period, the most advanced weapons of war are used? What you just explained, Lydia, seems it to me. Like, you know, torture on the deepest psychological level. Then getting back to the prison thing, what's interesting is like, you know, torture on the deepest psychological level. Then getting back to the prison thing, what's interesting is, is like, you know, prison, at least it has this, you know, attempt in the title of being a rehabilitation facility. Right. Could something like that actually get more targeted into rehabilitation? Because I know that I think it was in not nevada it might have been arizona there
Starting point is 00:39:25 was a prison where they just decided to dress all the inmates in pink paint all the walls pink and it lowered crime incredibly yeah and then there's there's this other one in thailand when i was out there training uh in muay thai where you could actually fight your way out and their world champion champion fought his way out of prison you could actually fight it out really like in batman when they're like if you can climb out you're free yeah yeah and this guy did he became world champ and then dave leduc a canadian came and whooped his ass and bare bare knuckle boxing wow but like i think there's more we could do prison wise to not make it the like what prison does to people i think you could probably get more intelligent with what you said using the metaverse or whatever maybe plant medicine something like that yeah you just can't force people to do plant medicine you know at least morally you know administrate
Starting point is 00:40:16 psychedelics to prisoners you mean ayahuasca you know how many people have these life life-changing experiences under right guidance under the wrong guidance it could be the worst thing in your life. What if we start programming prisoners? What if, you know, we get to this point where such bad things happen in our society, we just say, you know what? It is better that we neural link
Starting point is 00:40:39 or, you know, program the brain. Instead of sending them to prison, we, like you were mentioning with child predators, we wire their brain in a way so that they cannot act on certain impulses or whatever. Turn off the aggression. Turn off attraction. Don't they already chemically
Starting point is 00:40:56 castrate some people? Do they do that? I believe so, yeah. Could be wrong about that. Maybe that was a movie? Not in every... I think I've heard of that in countries. I know that I heard that recently. People ukraine saying like if we capture russians we're going to castrate them but yeah that's that's like a threat of like and that's in war as well but i mean like do they do this because it's maybe just some like fictional idea where a sex offender gets you know pills so that they can't those child predators yeah predators. Yeah, is that... I think so.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Let me look it up. I feel like I saw that online. But I think that's interesting because think about... A lot of people say, well, prison, people don't commit some crimes. Some people don't commit crimes
Starting point is 00:41:35 for the threat of what might happen. So imagine the threat of a Neuralink in your brain where all those urges go away and it's not up to you anymore. What if... I mean, man, Neuralink in your brain where all those urges go away. And it's not up to you anymore. What if, I mean, man, Neuralink is some scary stuff, man. Because I don't think we even understand how terrifying it can be.
Starting point is 00:41:53 It's not going to be wired. It's going to be wireless. Why would you need a wired cable? No, it's going to Wi-Fi, connect to your brain, and then someone's going to hack your brain and make you experience some crazy stuff. And then what happens going to hack your brain and make you experience some crazy stuff. And then what happens if someone hacks your brain
Starting point is 00:42:08 and then you're feeling like you're being attacked by ninjas and you're really just beating the crap out of strangers? The lack of control is just probably the most horrifying thing to me. I think social media is like the early adoption of that, the way people can be twisted just by media. Well, I was even thinking with like metaverse stuff like we've seen especially with the gen z and you know my generation that's grown up with social media just like are all like our slew of mental health issues and the way that we
Starting point is 00:42:35 are desensitized to basically everything uh and the way that we function is so drastically different than other generations i mean you look at I did a business program at Berkeley before I graduated, and we had this whole class on corporate psychology, and it was all of these HR departments at huge orgs prepping for Gen Z, because they're like, you're so sensitive.
Starting point is 00:42:57 We have to basically rework our entire structure to prep for this generation that has been royally screwed by social media. So it's like, if that is just what has happened with Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok, what the hell is going to happen? The reason I asked you earlier how you felt about it was because I think what will end up happening, the metaverse will not be popular at first. Some people will get it for necessity because it'll be easier to work when you're using
Starting point is 00:43:23 the metaverse and it'll probably start with a headset. Eventually, they'll make some kind of simple EEG interface. Eventually some people will opt to get some kind of like wireless implant. When the young people are entering the workforce it's going to be normal. People are going to do it. It's not going to
Starting point is 00:43:40 be an issue of whether you think it's weird or creepy. It's going to be like, oh, but you know, everyone does it. What I wonder is how much diet plays a role because you were saying before the show that you're keto or you've been keto for a while. You've been keto for a while and it helped clean up the mind. I found cleansing the gut biome and I wonder it's hard to measure
Starting point is 00:43:56 how much of it is these microplastics or estrogen in the water or have you studied this stuff? Ben, I know you look into this stuff from time to time. Is it quantifiable how much diet has impacted the youth in addition to social media? Because I, for a long time, just thought it's got to be social media. It has to be.
Starting point is 00:44:12 And like, I mean, it's such a nuanced question because look at our topsoil and now look at our microbiomes. Like the microbiome of the earth is eroding. There's like the amount of supplementation you need to have the microbiome naturally that our ancestors had is going to cost you a lot of money. You can't do it on low or minimum
Starting point is 00:44:33 wage. So that's just the microbiome. And then you're adding on top of it the PCBs, the microplastics, whatever else is in there. I'm hearing a lot about graphene and stuff like that, even in water supplies. So there's things that we can account for things that we can account for. And then there's sedentary lifestyle, which is huge. So like there was
Starting point is 00:44:54 this guy, Steven Jepsen, 80 years old, never leave the playground.com. And he was taking people over the age of 65. And, um, because past 65, if if you break your hip your mortality rate goes through the roof he was just doing things like two buckets in front of them bare feet picking up objects like marbles and tacks with your toes and dropping it into the other bucket that would like work on the talus and up here and it would actually they would notice that it was halting neurodegenerative disorders like, or diseases like Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, stuff like that. And then like making it trickier, like you have to stand up and do it. Stuff like that is important for the brain. It turns neurology back on.
Starting point is 00:45:37 It promotes neurogenesis and neuroplasticity. And that's just what we can quantify. So like it's a whole new playing field because the, like everything from the soil to the way we sit all day long. And as you were saying. I was going to say, like a very sedentary lifestyle. We've gotten to the point where we don't need to get up anymore. And the metaverse is going to exacerbate that. So it's really, it's those who want to engage with health and decide that I'm not going to wait for somebody else to do it for me.
Starting point is 00:46:04 I need to do it for myself. And that's huge, especially with like the pharmaceutical conversation where it's like, I mean, you can look at how many kids in the last 20, 25 years have suddenly been diagnosed with ADD, ADHD, or any other mental health thing. And so you just throw any drug on top of them rather than addressing what is your lifestyle? What are you eating? Are you even going outside? your lifestyle what are you eating are you even going outside how much time are you spending online it's like sure here take these
Starting point is 00:46:28 meds that kind of thing we're just royally screwing up our bodies when they're very natural and this isn't like some hippie holistic whatever it's like no we have it's very new that we have just been you know throwing these things on our brains and right it's it's new literally the technology the pills the chemicals didn't exist depending on which medicine 10 20 30 40 50 years ago yeah hormones were isolated i think what the beginning of the 1900s and estrogen was in the 60s high fructose corn syrup aspartame in the early 80s like that stuff's relatively sucralose all this weird stuff we're doing the fact that you have to say this food is organic over here like we're going to label it as organic is strange because now look at the ratio of organic to non-organic in stores.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Like the fact that you have to label it like that means that everything else is not and it probably has things in that that will affect you, neurotransmitters all the way down to the hormones. So like it's a lot. And you were just talking about, well, you said ADHD, but autism. Yeah. We laugh at simple approaches to these things and we applaud pharmaceutical profit-based ones. Whereas if you speak to somebody with autism in a prosodic voice, meaning kind of lilting, poetic, up and down, it halts in its tracks the symptoms of autism almost completely. And this was Stephen Porges' polyvagal theory.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Just the way you speak to them is different. They stop staring at your mouth and they start staring at your eyes. Symptoms go away. And that's just one of many things. And we don't get into that conversation because just let the pharmaceutical companies take care of that. That's the narrative. It's the same with schizophrenia and that sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:48:13 We have a very good family friend of ours who runs a fantastic nonprofit, and he is a schizophrenic, but he has completely controlled his voices. I think he also has OCD. I'm pretty sure he's bipolar as well, multiple personality disorder, that kind of thing. He had a whole slew of trauma when he was younger. Was in jail many, many, many times. Completely turned it around.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Is now fully in control of his voices. Runs two businesses and is non-profit. And is totally like carnivore. But it's all based on lifestyle and he's totally off meds. And it is wild to see how those very simple i mean you have to be very you know committed to those lifestyle choices but the power that you have as an individual to make those changes to not be you know at the beck and call of
Starting point is 00:48:56 a that was a really intense conversation you guys uh just about so much let's tone it down a little bit and talk about how the russian state tv said the Ukraine invasion has already escalated into World War III. Cool. Viewers were told to recognize that Russia is now fighting against NATO infrastructure, if not NATO itself. Okay. I don't. I'm honestly really tired about Ukraine, World War III, blah, blah, blah. I was working on my main segment for my Timcast channel.
Starting point is 00:49:23 And originally I was like, I guess we'll talk about this because, you know, the West is supplying weapons to the Ukrainians. They did sink the Russian flagship, the Moskva. And now they're saying it's World War III because Western forces are basically supplying Ukrainians. And then I was like, I don't talk about Elon Musk because I'm just kind of sick of talking about this. And the bigger issue here, I don't is the is the day-to-day play-by-play of the war and the stupid points being made by pundits but the fourth turning so i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna use that to launch back to you know i think maybe the first time we had you on ben we were talking about the fourth turning and how we didn't know what it was
Starting point is 00:50:01 going to be maybe war with china and now it looks like it's going to be war with russia are you brett are you familiar with what the fourth turning is no not at all all right do you want to give us the elevator pitch ben i will and first i'd like to say that you wanted to tone it down into world war three i love that yeah i just wanted to make sure the audience also understands that yeah um so neil howe and william strauss wrote a book back published in 1997. I think they researched it for 10 years. And it's called The Fourth Turning.
Starting point is 00:50:30 And in 97, when this book came out, it's laying out like some time around. Well, basically, there are seasons and it takes about 80 to 90 years. So every 80 to 90 years, there seems to be a crisis period. So you go back. It was World War II, Great Depression. Back before that, it was Civil War. Back before that, Revolutionary War. You could even trace it back before that in England with the Glorious Revolution and a
Starting point is 00:50:54 little bit further back. But basically, it's this idea that after a crisis period, there's a high and then there's an awakening, which would be the 60s, 70s, that kind of culture. And then there's an unraveling, which is like I always get into the music that shows you what the culture is, like the Nirvana, Soundgarden, this like it's okay not to pretend like everything's great, girls, girls, girls. No, we're going to talk about like something is coming apart. So anyway, they said by 2005, give or take three years,
Starting point is 00:51:24 there's going to be an inciting incident. And that inciting incident will likely be economic and it will steamroll into many other things. They mentioned Bill Gates and vaccine agendas in one sentence. They said the possibility for a pandemic. They said the possibility for rural gangs and or urban gangs and rural militias at each other's throats, I think BLM and Proud Boys and that kind of
Starting point is 00:51:54 stuff, all the way to weapons of mass destruction or the thought of weapons of mass destruction, a plane being hijacked by terrorists and then it all potentially comes back on the country itself as a false flag attack. And I'm just like, 97, like all, most of these things come to pass. So the gist is, aside from their, you know, the predictions they put out, which we're seeing to a certain degree,
Starting point is 00:52:18 it's that the fourth turning is the fourth season, the fourth generation or 20 20 year period where some great catastrophe happens and so we're supposed to be in that right now and the culmination is what it ends 2028 but it should be culminating 2026 like the peak the climax the crescendo which is the 250 year uh birthday of the u.s which who's that person who said uh i forget what his name is, but he says, empires only last 250 years. That's his life expectancy. And in every fourth turning, the most advanced weapons of war will be used. So the last one you see, obviously, Nagasaki, Hiroshima. This time around, we were talking last time, like, what do you think it would be?
Starting point is 00:52:59 You think it would be bigger bombs or more death and destruction? And you said something that i thought was very on point which was like the mind it's it's psychological warfare and and what we're talking about now and and then dovetailing into the metaverse i think you know it's that and also this technology that potentially even frequency wise can modulate hormones i mean i i think it's already being used and i would say that there's a lot of people who say that you know fourth turning is only like 75 to 80 percent correct and i'm like they wrote it in 97 if they were 50 correct that's incredible right so so is it uh and hold on uh joe biden remember you you did that thing where he was talking about the New World Order?
Starting point is 00:53:45 Yeah. He says in that, every three to four generations, there's this big, I forget the exact words that he uses. First, he said something funny. I was in a, what did he say, a high security meeting. Military meeting. Military guy told me this, and it's like, Joe, please don't leak. Stop, stop, stop. Top clearance information. But what he was saying was that a high-ranking military officer told him that effectively the Strassau generational theory was correct. Or at least alluded to this idea.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Joe Biden says 60 million people died or whatever. And so he says there's going to be a new world order. And he's referring to the liberal world order. And what they're saying is it's changing now with this coming conflict. And there's going to be a new world order. And he's referring to the liberal world order. And what they're saying is it's changing now with this coming conflict and there's going to be a new one and we have to lead it. So it sounds like even Joe Biden thinks things are going to escalate. But let me revise my previous position
Starting point is 00:54:36 and entertain a possibility here. In the fourth turning, the most powerful weapons are used. And we talked about this. Maybe it's social media, the psychological manipulation and control of the population. If you can get a country to worship you without firing a single bullet, of course you would. It's cheaper. It's faster.
Starting point is 00:54:53 It's easier. It's safer, right? It's more efficient. You save resources. You don't take out power plants you might need in the future. But now we're seeing in Russia, Zelensky, just he keeps screaming bloody murder. He's warning now that Russia will use nuclear weapons. I got to be honest, when he came out and was like, oh, no, the nuclear power plant and the International Nuclear Committee, whatever
Starting point is 00:55:16 this group was, was like, oh, no, everything's fine. They weren't going after the reactors. I'm like, this guy, I get it. He's desperate for help. Ukraine is being beaten down. Russia is firing missiles, all that stuff. But then when he comes out and says they're going to use nukes, I go, oh, really? And then I see on Russian TV, they're like, NATO is supplying weapons to Ukrainians and they sank our flagship. If the Russians believe the sinking of their Black Sea flagship was NATO and not Ukraine, which they probably do, because let's be real, Ukraine is said to be one of the only countries
Starting point is 00:55:49 or the only country to become poorer since the fall of the Soviet Union. They have the capability to sink a Russian flagship. Russia denies it at first. They claim credit. If Russia really does believe that NATO is supplying forces, NATO is attacking them,
Starting point is 00:56:03 why wouldn't Russia say, nukes? Hitler, that's why he declared war on the United States, because they were running weapons to Britain when Britain was at war with Germany, before the United States and Germany ever got into war. Think about, Hitler was a genocidal maniac. Putin doesn't seem like it. He just seems like he wants the territory.
Starting point is 00:56:21 So I don't think he's going to go to World War. I don't think he's going to declare war on NATO. But I mean, if they keep blowing up Russian ships with NATO weapons, what choice does Russia have at that point? I mean, you could always surrender. They could always surrender. Or call a white peace and just end it.
Starting point is 00:56:38 What if Putin was like, you know, I don't want the world to end. So I quit. And then they just stop. It's happened many times in the past. If you fight a war to end, so I quit. And then, like, they just stopped. It's happened many times in the past. If you fight a war to a stalemate and both sides decide, it's called a white peace. It's over. There's no victory terms.
Starting point is 00:56:52 No one wins. No one loses. You brought up Hitler. Have you heard of Tim Snyder? He writes about, like, Ukraine and Hitler's eastern front more than Hitler's Western Front. And he's fully convinced that, and I think he's written seven books on it, that Ukraine was Hitler's eastern aim and maybe the whole aim. Like the whole colonization
Starting point is 00:57:15 that was happening at that time, they were a little behind, potentially World War I. I'm not as advanced as Tim Snyder was. But he said that his eyes were fixed on Ukraine. And so that's an interesting tidbit of history there in Ukraine. And also, I don't want to side rail it, but this is a book by Yuri Shailov, Ancient History of Arata Ukraine, 20,000 BC to 1,000 CE.
Starting point is 00:57:42 So it goes through a lot of history. The ancient history of Ukraine is incredible. And a lot of the spots where there are these burial mounds with like 63 caves underneath and petroglyphs that seem to be proto-Sumerian. So prior to Gobekli Tepe, the earliest civilization where agriculture comes from, seems to be right in this area. And, I mean, there's something really interesting about, like, the ancient, ancient history of Ukraine that also where the symbol of the swastika and some even say the yin-yang symbol may have originated there, that the Russians, the Belarusians, the Slavs, the Aryans have an origin primarily in Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:58:25 So it's some kind of sacred land that... It's like a land bridge. That's for sure. It's flat and it connects Asia and Europe. A lot of their most sacred spots were all along the Dnipro River. And also there's Kortitsa Island, which is in the Dnipro. And Tibetan monks claim their origin to be there in Ukraine and supposedly even have documentation to prove it.
Starting point is 00:58:47 All in this book, but the thing is, is Yuri Shailov, an Anatolian coefficient, leading archaeologist and sumerologist, you can't find anything in English except this book. And I've tried to get in touch with him. I've tried to get in touch with Tim and Heather Lee Hooker that have translated some of the work. Nowhere to be found.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Yeah, the Black Sea port makes it such an amazing piece of land to control strategically. You can get into basically the oceans and you can get all over the continent. Just a quick thing on the Black Sea. As I was researching a lot of this, I find Putin's face everywhere and all these ancient sites. He goes in this submersible. Check out Putin in a submersible in the Black Sea, going down to the bottom of the Black Sea to find an ancient ship. Interesting. And you'll see some of the images where...
Starting point is 00:59:36 Oh, yeah. What? What? What is happening? You know, if he wants to... What if Vladimir Putin was actually just like Nick Cage in National Treasure, and they're trying to frame him because he's going to uncover the secrets of Europe? I did not want this power. I must free them.
Starting point is 00:59:54 All the way out to the Ural Mountains, all these ancient sites that apparently belong to the same core civilization prior to the Sumerians, Putin was everywhere. I found pictures everywhere visiting these ancient sites. So I don't know what it means. I'm just throwing it out there because it's food for thought. Well, I mean, look, Hitler believes in a lot of occult crazy stuff too. And Putin could be motivated by weird stuff. No idea. Israeli, I mean, that's a holy land. It's all about that area. And that may not all about it, but a big part of it is they wanted to be in the area where jesus was so a lot of times i mean it's culturally
Starting point is 01:00:29 there's an importance to people about being in a specific area well you know i i definitely think world war three is an interesting topic but it is friday so maybe we should actually tone things down and talk about world war four the next one no this one will be a bit more chill, and we'll have a good Friday night. Fox News reports Warner Brothers removes dialogue from Fantastic Beasts, The Secrets of Dumbledore in China. The move comes after the studio received a request to remove lines referencing Dumbledore's gay relationship. My understanding is that that's like the main plot of the movie,
Starting point is 01:01:01 but Brett, you saw it. Saw it last night, yeah. So spoiler alerts i guess the secret is that dumbledore is gay which really wasn't yeah i know which really wait wait wait i'm sorry i'm sorry the movie is called the secrets of dumbledore and the secret is that he's gay basically but that secret was already spoiled years ago because jk rowling was kind of when was that maybe three years ago but she was like oh yeah he's gay and a couple of the other characters you know or non-binary whatever still everybody hates her regardless um but yeah i think here's the thing i love harry potter the movie was mediocre it was subpar and there were like
Starting point is 01:01:37 three kind of gay points throughout it like it started off with some and there were some like innuendos in like the middle part and then at and then at the end, like, you see Dumbledore and Grindelwald kind of, like, have their moment of, like, who will I love now? Like, kissing, or... No, they're just, like, they're fighting, but because they are connected, because...
Starting point is 01:01:56 I forget what happened in the first one, but they're, like, blood is connected because they were lovers or something like that. They technically can't, like, destroy each other. But that's crazy. Yeah. Because, like, in Harry Potter, there's, like destroy each other but that's crazy yeah because like in harry potter there's like how is it that no one who ever once loved another person ever fought until now
Starting point is 01:02:10 yeah like you have to imagine that would come up quite a bit you know it's like that's my axe i can't fight her because you know it reminded me of the same thing when uh like voldemort and harry are fighting in the wands like combustible yeah it was that kind of thing it was that story it was a similar vibe I don't know exactly what lines they removed removed obviously because I didn't watch the Chinese version but
Starting point is 01:02:35 doesn't it make like the movie not work if they remove that from the movie I feel like I don't know what the other secret would be I don't like what would then what would the whole plot be it was very it was don't, like, what would then, what would the whole plot be? It was very, it was just kind of like taking down Grindelwald, but there really was
Starting point is 01:02:49 nothing going on. They add like one scene at the end where after the movie ends, they're like, but wait, what was the secret Dumbledore? And then he like
Starting point is 01:02:56 pulls up his underwear and he's got roses. He's like, I'm wearing rose underwear. And they're like, oh, that's the secret. Love it.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Yeah. I guess the other, there was another, because Dumbledore's brother is in it, so there is another Dumbledore and he kind of has like a storyline where there is a secret that's not gay. So I technically think if you remove that, there is another
Starting point is 01:03:16 secret Dumbledore. They were referring to the non- main character Dumbledore. The ancillary character Dumbledore in the title of the film. One of the things you mentioned that really bugs me is, you know, I think Star Wars did it.
Starting point is 01:03:28 They ripped off the Star Wars Episode IV, the first Star Wars ever made, with the, what was it, Episode VII? 789? It was VII. I think they just redid the story, but in a different form. It was a shot-for-shot remake, basically. So, The Force Awakens is a new hope.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Did it feel like they did that with Harry Potter? Waster was it different enough it was it was different enough it was not as good the magic was fantastic though i mean it's interesting going back and like watching the original movies and it's like i remember growing up being like oh this is so epic and it's like oh it's kind of campy now that's what i was wondering like did that secret make it to like oh you kind of broke the fourth wall this is about this is too much about this world not enough about that world you could definitely tell one thing that I learned was that this I think was pretty sure
Starting point is 01:04:11 people can correct me if I'm wrong this was the first Harry Potter film that was produced by Hollywood rather than British filmmakers and I don't know I mean you could tell there was something about it that I was just like it didn't feel right it didn't feel like it really sat in the universe. Maybe that was it.
Starting point is 01:04:27 But it was... Kind of like the last Matrix. What if they just... So J.K. Rowling's been doing these screenplays. The books she wrote were fantastic. I love the Harry Potter series. Seems like these screenplays are just the worst trash I've ever seen in terrible movies. Is she writing the screenplays?
Starting point is 01:04:40 I'm pretty sure she wrote the screenplays. Yeah. It wouldn't be funny if they announced the new series and it's effectively like star wars a shot for shot remake of of the sorcerer's stone or whatever but at the end it's like the secret isn't the sorcerer's stone it's just like some woke trash about the character was actually a white supremacist oh did you see the new lord of the rings movie on, I think it's on Amazon? It's a series, right? Yeah, it's a series. And I saw a screenshot that showed like 170,000 down votes and like 10,000 up votes or something. And all these people comment on it.
Starting point is 01:05:13 The video's on YouTube. And it's a quote from J.R.R. Tolkien that says, Evil can never create anything new. It can only twist and destroy what's already been created. That's interesting. The book The Master Switch goes into what Hollywood has been doing lately. You notice that almost everything's a remake. It's this algorithm that's saying we know how to predict how continually making Spider-Man,
Starting point is 01:05:36 continually making Batman and Wolverine and all that stuff. We know how to predict that. And I think that's also going to dovetail into these. Did you guys see what was that ready player one no okay well there there was that racing game where there's godzilla and i think there's also king kong they're going to immortalize these like archetypal characters in these games to live forever so they they become like almost like these fictitious gods and goddesses from the movies. And I just want to say one thing.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Like Voldemort, you mentioned? Mm-hmm. The two other names that are in Russian similar to that is Vladimir and Voldemir. Mm-hmm. And so I keep hearing that relation between Vladimir and Voldemort. So that's anti-Russian propaganda? I have no idea.
Starting point is 01:06:26 J.K. Rowling, what did you do? The new Superman is gay. Really? It's like the son of Superman, but he's a bi, I think. They were talking about doing that with James Bond, I think. No, they were going to do a non-binary. The producer was like, they were like,
Starting point is 01:06:40 oh, well, we're not ruling out that Bond could be a non-binary. Dude, I legit would love to make short films that, you know, in no way disparage anybody, but just make the point where it's like, we take James Bond, we do an action scene, and then in the end, the bad guy goes, James, are you gay? And he goes, yes, and that's the end of it. It's like, you know, and I don't say that to, this is not a critique of the LGBTQ community. It's a critique of Hollywood. Just like
Starting point is 01:07:10 to predict how they would play these movies out, how they would do character development. Instead of being like, here's what I like. I like it when there's character development and you understand the character or you relate to a certain emotion. What I don't like is when they're just like, Dumbledore's gay.
Starting point is 01:07:30 It's like, okay, look, if Dumbledore as part of the plot was in love with a guy, I'd be like, oh, okay, show me the motivation, help me understand it. If the secret of the movie is literally that Dumbledore likes men and they've been hammering this point, I'm just like, guys, you didn't make a movie. You made, just make a commercial where it ends with Dumbledore likes men and they've been hammering this point I'm just like guys you didn't make a movie you made just make a commercial where it ends with Dumbledore saying he's gay a social social point rather than good writing I was gonna say so from the like the back side of it because I was an actor for 10 years and then while I was in college my whole plan had been to like then go into production and be a producer and that's what I wanted to do so I was working at
Starting point is 01:08:03 I was working at an academy award-winning production company it was an indie company and what i loved about it was that it was they only produced like deeply like character-driven narratives like brilliant stories and during blm i was working with them around covid as well everything swapped and instead of i was on like the development team, so part of my job was reading every single script submission that we would get and breaking it down. And it switched from Brett, tell us about the character motivations
Starting point is 01:08:34 and what makes these characters tick. What do we learn from it? What is the audience grasping at the end? The things that I think are important, too. Do we have a Native American story? We don't have this. I mean, we scrapped like 70% of the projects that we had agreed to fund and do because they did not tick off enough of the boxes did ownership change or was there was just like we're not going to produce it so it was just like went back to the screenwriters like we can't do it and then my job
Starting point is 01:08:56 became not let's like seek out these fantastic new writers you know read whatever comes in it was like you need to actively go find things that we can acquire that are like a trans, female, Native American story so that we can be the social justice. I mean, it truly got so separated from what I think is the most beautiful part of entertainment, why I love entertainment, why I love movies and storytelling.
Starting point is 01:09:22 It was truly just, you know, let's check a political box. Was it like the ownership of the, when I asked about the ownership of the company that you worked at, did they change? Oh, no, no. They just started acting differently?
Starting point is 01:09:32 Yeah. Social engineering. Well, you know what I was thinking is, is it possible that maybe in the past 10 or 15 years, a species of small slugs descended on Earth and crawled into people's ears and started to attach themselves and take over their minds and bodies.
Starting point is 01:09:50 Is that one way it may have happened? Yeah, what are those little space bears called? Water bears. You guys ever read Animorphs? No. I think they're called Yerks. Little brain slugs take over your brain. This kind of came up with Ben Shapiro. He was on the show a couple days ago. We did an afternoon show that's going to be on TimCast.com I think they're called Yerks I wonder if Little brain slugs Take over your brain This kind of came up With Ben Shapiro
Starting point is 01:10:05 He was on the show A couple days ago We did an afternoon show That's going to be On Timcast.com I think on Sunday We'll put it on YouTube Okay cool
Starting point is 01:10:11 And we were talking about Just basically facts And how can you convince Sometimes you just Can't convince people of things And I think when Someone's really agitated Like when someone's
Starting point is 01:10:19 Really emotionally calm Facts speak volumes It's easy to pay attention And change your mind And you know Change your thoughts When you know change your thoughts when you're agitated and crazy almost nothing can make you stabilize like no matter what comes up it doesn't matter because you're freaking out and if like this wi-fi is freaking
Starting point is 01:10:34 if all this this this energy that we're pouring through the air is like causing people to go nuts haywire i don't know the word and so they're they're not able to stay cool when things like, you were saying, social engineering, when things like BLM, and it may even have contributed to the rise of these social movements, but I think that's more like a CCP long war game, but that it's just overly impacting people because of the environment. That's why it's
Starting point is 01:10:57 when people say, oh, we just need to, like, how do you convince people of, you know, how do you red pill them, whatever. It's like, just speak the truth. It's like, you can't just do that. Like, we can, you know, talk about facts all day long, but if you are not meeting people on, you know, how do you red pill them, whatever. It's like, just speak the truth. It's like, you can't just do that. Like we can, you know, talk about facts all day long, but if you are not meeting people on their own turf, if you're not, you know, doing what Daily Wire does and creating culture, what Timcast does, all of this, um, if you are not, you know, communicating with them in a way that is relatable and tangible and engaging and, you know, is taking into account emotions, especially with the younger generations, where we are...
Starting point is 01:11:25 All hell is breaking loose at all times. You cannot just convince people with facts alone. It has to be. It's not possible. When you were growing up, did it feel like all hell was breaking loose when you were younger, too? Not at all, but I was in a very...
Starting point is 01:11:38 I don't know, not contained environment, but I just didn't... I didn't go to public school. I was homeschooled for my entire life. Yeah, that's great. I went to public school for three years i did kindergarten first grade maybe second grade and then i did my freshman year of high school and i was like this place is awful and i left so as a result i was not in the midst of all of that i saw it when i got to college and while i was working in hollywood but i think i was so you know focused on my own
Starting point is 01:12:03 internal whatever that it just didn't even phase me. I wanted to go back to your point you said about, you know, facts and convincing people. I actually think that facts typically play a small role. It's almost always emotion. So you want to make someone feel something. When I was doing, when I worked in fundraising for nonprofits,
Starting point is 01:12:21 it's all emotion. If you go to someone and you'd say, you know, hi, I'd like to give you some facts about this catastrophe we're facing. Did you know that every day we do X, Y, and Z? And this is where they're going to be like, yeah, okay, thanks, have a nice day. No, you've got to, they say the first thing
Starting point is 01:12:34 is create a sense of urgency. Ah, that's right, you have to convince them something is imperiled now. You can't just tell them the truth, you have to create it, create. They would say create a sense of urgency. And you have to make them personally invested in it you have to make them there's several ways you can do it there's things like if we're going to talk about a faraway land we have to make you to blame because why would you care about a faraway land oh because it's your fault
Starting point is 01:12:57 if we're going to talk about an issue that does affect you then you're the victim here and you've got to help fight back like we got it we got to hold these people accountable there's always a way to emotionally trigger someone either through a demand for justice or through guilt there's an emotion you're trying to target to make them take a certain action i hated that industry it's what i was doing before this a little this is what i was doing this summer was doing copywriting and you know what is it called? I worked for an organization that did it. Where you're writing the fundraising letters and all of that stuff. There is basically a blueprint
Starting point is 01:13:32 that you follow to get boomers to donate money to you. These blueprints are typically formulaic. They're typically trash. But the formula is right. What they do is they know the formula. There's actually a step-by-step process. So these companies will give you a sheet and it'll give you five boxes and it'll explain
Starting point is 01:13:50 what each box needs to do. And then you write in those boxes, you know, how would you convey the idea? So it says like one, introduction, two, sense of urgency, three, problem, four, solution, five, pitch. And then you're like, you know, they say, follow this formula. Write it out. A lot of companies will pre-write these things, hoping that if they hire 100 people, give them the script, 20 of them make it, the rest get fired a week later.
Starting point is 01:14:18 And so, you know, I always thought those were trash because people don't, like, you'll see them on the street, like, hi, how are you doing? I'm so-and-so working with Touch & Touch. We have a and such we have a huge problem blah blah blah it's all boring and formulaic if you know how to read people how they move how they act then this job becomes insanely easy but it is almost always an emotional argument you're either trying to convince them that you're cool and right and they should be on your side trying to convince them that they're there they should be guilty for being at fault for contributing to this or that someone is screwing them over.
Starting point is 01:14:48 You're never just saying, do you care about the environment? Yes. What's the most concerning thing to you? One of the problems we're fighting is deforestation. Are you concerned about the removal of trees in large numbers? People will be like, I'm sorry, I don't have time for this, and they'll leave. But if you say something like, when you go and do X, Y, or Z, you are destroying every step of the way. I know you don't mean to do it. None of us do.
Starting point is 01:15:13 But don't you think that you should help clean it up a little bit? Of course you should. I know you're a good person. Right. You're not the kind of person who's going to make a mess at someone's house and leave it there, would you? Of course not. Okay, credit card, please. I wonder, and Ben, again, i ask you because you're one of my
Starting point is 01:15:27 favorite people on earth um no i'm just uh you're very intelligent just kidding i don't play favorites i'm talking about the past is there like some historiological you know reason that we're so tuned into emotion well i don't think we're hardwired for fact we're hardwired for fact. We're hardwired for story. Look at what we've done since time immemorial. Sat around, told stories. You could be like, I'm going to tell you the facts of my day. I hunted this thing and I hunted that thing. But it always ended with the shaman or the chief or somebody wrapping it into a mythological story. And there's a mythos that basically captures every generation, every civilization.
Starting point is 01:16:09 There's some kind of narrative, like an overarching narrative. One big one from the Bible is that there will be a Savior and be on the lookout for that Savior. And I think we are hardwired for narrative. And the thing about what's happening in the world today, I'll just say this. You don't have to get people, like if I wanted to engage your emotions to get you to do something in the world, and then to do that to large groups of people, destabilizing people's sense of equilibrium first, which is basic training. They did that with me. You get the people into a state of stress. It destabilizes
Starting point is 01:16:45 their default mode network. It almost puts them into a psychedelic suggestible like state. And then what seems to be the context, things that I'm not making you do, but I'm kind of filling in the blanks of what's happening contextually, will create a worldview where like, oh shit, because of everything you just said, I realize what I have to do. And that's setting up the set and setting, destabilizing use, and suggesting and planting seeds, not being overt and on the nose.
Starting point is 01:17:13 Let's just, going off what you said, this is what I thought of. Let me tell you about the hunt I went on. So I went out into the woods. I had my rifle with me. There were some issues. We saw the woods. I had my rifle with me. There were some issues. We saw the buck.
Starting point is 01:17:30 I lined it up. We got it. It was great. Big guy. Let's try another version. So there I was. I'm walking through this mud. I see the beast.
Starting point is 01:17:43 Massive dimple lights. I get my rifle ready. I'm jammed. It notices me. I take the beast. Massive. Dim the lights. I get my rifle ready. I'm jammed. It notices me. I take the shot. We got it. We go over there. This thing was magnificent.
Starting point is 01:17:53 Beautiful. The biggest you've ever seen. Which would people prefer to hear? Oh, the second one. Yeah, the second one. You're driving emotion. You're trying to create a sense of what's happening. So, storytelling. You know, I think about these,
Starting point is 01:18:05 we play D&D or Magic the Gathering or whatever and you've got these games based on goblins. And I'm like, you know why there are stories about goblins? Because some guy went to go sell beans at the market and while he's walking through the woods he comes across some ugly dude who's yelling about something or other. And he's like,
Starting point is 01:18:22 everybody's always coming here and messing things up. This is my road. I've been working on it. It's like, get out of here, dude. And he's like, everybody's always coming here and messing things up. This is my road. I've been working on it. It's like, get out of here, dude. And he walks away. When he goes back home, he doesn't say some guy yelled at me. He goes, so I'm walking through the woods
Starting point is 01:18:32 and a vile creature emerges with a crooked nose and pointed ears and he snarls. And I'm like, back beast! And I draw my blade. And so people tell these stories. Someone writes it down and draws pictures and they're like, wow.
Starting point is 01:18:45 And then we imagine these vicious monsters and these giant, you know, there I was fighting the dragon. And it's like a small lizard. You know, Homo florensis, that hominid. I think those are maybe where the fantasy goblins come from, those little small humans. And they were, I think, they historically would eat human children. Like they would steal them. They found some new ones a couple of years ago. They would steal children. Whoa. Yeah new ones a couple of years ago.
Starting point is 01:19:05 They would steal children. Those are the most recent ones they found. Whoa. Yeah, this is what I've heard. They found new. Ethological stories of small people like the Menehune in Hawaii and also many of the islands that apparently built all the structures before the regular stature people would get there. There's stories of little people and giants everywhere. Native Americans have a lot of stories. I think they're called the giants.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Right, but like cannibalistic giants, Native Americans from Pennsylvania all the way down to Tennessee, actually. Say that there's cannibalistic giants? Giants, yep. Are they weird, large humans that are kind of naked and can all be killed by slicing the nape of their neck?
Starting point is 01:19:45 No, but go on. Did you know what I was referencing? No. Oh, it's Attack on Titan. Oh, okay. Yeah, but you left and I was like, are you familiar? All the guys in the chat are going to be like, but I guess not. So guys, calm down.
Starting point is 01:19:56 I also think you have a good voice for story. You should do some voiceover like that. Oh, yeah. I'm Dr. Fauci in Freedom Tunes. I love it. But now that Fauci is out of the news cycle, I'm out. Oh, yeah. Do some audio books. I'm Dr. Fauci in Freedom Tunes. I love it. But now that Fauci's out of the news cycle, I'm out of work, man.
Starting point is 01:20:08 Well, I think this is a great opportunity for you to start storytelling again. Well, I asked Seamus if he would let me voice Nancy Pelosi on his show,
Starting point is 01:20:16 and I don't think he wants to. But she talks like this. Her mouth is falling from her face. I think Donald Trump... You know, I definitely go over the top with it on purpose because I don't like her. Okay, so maybe we are in the psychological world.
Starting point is 01:20:31 I think it's a storytelling era. You're an actor. I was an actor. Ben, you're a performer. I went through acting classes mainly to learn how to write. Tim, creator, performer? Yeah. I was just going to say, growing up as an actor, I would get
Starting point is 01:20:45 a lot of crap, especially from, like, family members who were like, you're too smart to be, you know, being in entertainment, doing whatever. Like, well, everything that we're saying that we are, you know, that humanity is inherently, you know, narrative based. I mean, everything we learn from stories. That's why, I mean, we spend however many hours of our week, you know, consuming movies and television shows. Everything that we learn is subconsciously,
Starting point is 01:21:09 you know, coming from the stories that we are watching. And it's so important. And so it always disappointed me when people were going, well, why are you doing that? It's like, well,
Starting point is 01:21:17 I feel like I could be, this is the most important work that I could be doing if I'm, you know, leveraging my craft, basically in a way that is meaningful and that I think is aligned with my values, there's nothing better because that's the way that people learn. That's the way that you change minds. That's why it's like I don't not want to give up on Hollywood, but not want to give up on entertainment and the power that it holds. I think what Ian was trying to say is that when I tell you this next story, instead of saying Joe Biden mocked for shaking hands with thin air after speech, I should go. So there he was.
Starting point is 01:21:51 Biden turned to his right in his mind. The hallucination of a strong man reaching out to shake his hand. Biden reached. But there was nothing. But the best part of this is Stars and stripes is on top of all of that happening the band playing oh yeah yeah so so joe biden claims that he uh was a professor at what you pen yes full professor he never even taught one class there yo is is like what if the conspiracy theory you know the by dan conspiracy theory have you heard this
Starting point is 01:22:23 so it's that there's it's he's not actually joe biden he's a replacement called bydan and like the real story is that joe biden got plastic surgery and look kind of different but people compare joe biden before and joe biden now and it's like it is creepy it is but he got he's older and he got plastic surgery that's what it looks like but so there's the conspiracy theorists are like he's by dan not by den that's what they call him or whatever but uh it maybe he's like he was this guy was a professor at upenn and now he's old and doesn't realize he's not or whatever or well no but in all seriousness joe biden tried to shake hands with thin air i i genuinely think he may have been hallucinating i really do mean it um i'm wondering if, or my question is,
Starting point is 01:23:06 how could he possibly mistake himself as a professor at university? Yeah, you were explaining this, Brett. Like he was, he actually was, got an honorary degree. Yeah, so he, UPenn paid him. And this is not the first time that he's claimed this because I was reading a Daily Caller article about it. It came out in 2019. And in 2019, he had already been proclaiming
Starting point is 01:23:28 that he was a full professor. But what happened was that UPenn paid him a little over $700,000 to be like, it was like a Benjamin Franklin honorary professor, something like that. Basically, all he had to do was show up around the campus, be sort of a figurehead, wander around. I don't know where that money went.
Starting point is 01:23:45 Who knows what he did with it? Maybe Hunter has it. We'll see. He's great at wandering around. I mean, he's fantastic at it. Maybe that's all he thinks that professors do. But he was paid by the university, but he was far from being any kind of professor, but in his mind. He has a history of lying.
Starting point is 01:24:05 Like, he's a plagiarist in 88. I brought that up before when he ran for president. When he rubs his nose with the eyebrow, you know he's lying. Does his tail? Yeah. Oh, okay. If you watch his videos, yeah. You're a Biden whisperer, I see.
Starting point is 01:24:15 I spend a lot of time watching his videos on the internet. As an actor, I do the same thing. You just study people and watch them move. Well, how many videos do we need of Joe Biden wandering around not knowing where he's going, not knowing what he's talking about? Is it a mockery? Like, at what point is it like,
Starting point is 01:24:34 how many people have been talking about it since before even? Like, his mind is not going to hold up. It feels like a mockery. It's elder abuse. Like, he's mocking us? Well, I mean, like, the whole thing. It kind of feels like making a mockery It's elder abuse. Like he's mocking us? Well, I mean, like the whole thing. It kind of feels like making a mockery
Starting point is 01:24:48 of the United States. You think I'm broken? And he acts like it? Like as the archetypal figurehead of the United States, at the end of our lifespan, there's this mockery, this guy that can't even keep a sentence together. I mean, I'm talking metaphorically.
Starting point is 01:25:03 I mean, obviously, there's probably a more nuanced explanation to it. I think, and when I say sick, I just mean that it seems like his mind has been clouded or he's getting old, he's losing, like, I don't know if it's onset dementia, whatever, but a sick society will create a sick leader. And sickness is a vague word, but this is an example of people voting for something they hate
Starting point is 01:25:24 because they hate something else more. A healthy society puts the smartest and the best in power. I don't understand. This is just derangement. Well, they hated Donald Trump. And they were willing to take the craziest, laziest,
Starting point is 01:25:40 out of his mindiest. So that's what we get. I don't think Joe Biden will be able to run in 2024. Absolutely not. I mean, Ben was saying that they're going to strap him to a gurney, but I'm like, come on. Yeah, I guess. But even that's not going to work. Maybe he'll run and then try and make somebody else look good.
Starting point is 01:25:55 You know what his slogan would be? Tune in on a shot of the pressure. Or Nexenorescent. Yeah. And Batikov here. Here's a new one. Remember when he said the United States
Starting point is 01:26:05 can be summed up in one word and he said or something like that. I didn't care. My favorite is just we're back. We're back.
Starting point is 01:26:13 We're back. That's the only thing you can actually say coherently is we're back. Oh, he can say come on, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:19 Look fat. It's going to get real. He's good at saying Putin caused inflation. Or go get him. That was the end of his State of the Union. His catchphrase is, it's not my fault, it's Putin's fault. It's not my fault.
Starting point is 01:26:31 Everything. He like slips on a banana peel. Oh, Putin. Did you guys see that he got shat on by a bird? Yes. Yeah, and everybody was like, oh, he's going to blame Putin. Tim made a video earlier, I think, analyzing it. What did you come up with?
Starting point is 01:26:43 So Snope says he wasn't pooped on. It was actually corn. Or a corn... Corn pop. Corn byproduct. Corn pop. Oh, my gosh. Oh, it was.
Starting point is 01:26:51 A literal corn pop. He was standing next to a big pile of corn at an ethanol plant where they take corn and turn it into ethanol. And so, they said it clearly was corn. And when they show it in slow motion, you can see it hits him. And it does break apart like bits and not goop however here's the issue so the new york post said it was bird poop snopes and many other outlets said it was corn and i'm like no one actually knows none of you
Starting point is 01:27:16 can prove it the white house claims it was corn you don't know that so here's what i say the splatter on his lapel the corn retains it's it's it's it's it looks like if it was corn and it might be it's in a viscous matter of some sort because if powdered corn ball hit you the whole thing would break apart if there was a wet ball with corn in it it would hit you and then corn bits would splatter down but it would retain its splatter shape because there's a viscous material holding it together. I say it's possible that there was a bird in there that ate a bunch of the corn and then pooped it out on him and it was in its poop. Or the simple answer is, why are fact checkers claiming they know what it is when they don't? By all means, say, we don't know if it was bird poop. I'm fine with that.
Starting point is 01:28:04 Something fell on him. Sure. But then they're like like fact check biden wasn't pooped on i'm like you didn't fact check that's your opinion yeah because you could like zoom in on the photo and it's like it doesn't look like typical bird poop it's not like white it had i mean it does now that you said the corn i hadn't seen that it does kind of look more like that i mean i got pooped on here the other day but they called it does not look like that They called it a corn byproduct because they couldn't even say it was corn. A corn byproduct. It was like partially digested corn. I imagine birds can't digest it fully or something.
Starting point is 01:28:32 Or they ate too much. Like that giant mound, a bird could have just eaten until it got sick and barfed on them for all I know. Maybe, yeah. Or maybe it was a mother bird carrying food around to bring back to the babies in the nest. Oh, hey. I had a moment. I was walking up to the front door of the Daily Wire building. And as I'm walking, I'm about five feet from the wall in the door.
Starting point is 01:28:55 And I hear a splatter. And I look and I see a little white splotch. And I was like, oh, that was close. And I look up and there was a little bird butt right over the edge. It was just really awesome. I could see there was a little bird standing there and his butt hanging over. I'm like, oh, that was close. And I look up, and there was a little bird butt right over the edge. It was just really awesome. I could see, like, there's a little bird standing there and his butt hanging over. I'm like, he just took a dump. What animals have you guys been crapped on?
Starting point is 01:29:12 I'll go first if you want. Well, bird. Last week. Well, no. It was like two weeks ago. I did a hit on Ben's show, and I was walking back, and it went right there. And I was like, yeah, live at large. I took the bird and the snake.
Starting point is 01:29:22 The snake? The snake was interesting because it was like this white stuff just came out of the bottom of it on the knee it's kind of neat human babies so I get pooped on often and rabbits which actually isn't
Starting point is 01:29:36 they're relentless shitters but I mean like it's just these little dry fertilizer balls they also eat their own poop yeah they you know, they also eat their own poop. Yeah, they do. I was going to say their own babies. They don't really eat their own poop. What they're eating is, when the rabbits eat plant matter,
Starting point is 01:29:53 it has to go through their system more than once. So sometimes poop comes out, and sometimes it looks like poop, but it's actually just partially digested plant matter. They turn around and eat it again. Yeah, rabbits, people got to understand rabbits are not pets. Nope. It's crazy to me that people like. Well, they freak me out too.
Starting point is 01:30:09 Yeah. The white ones with the red eyes. Oh, albino. Are they considered albino? I don't know. I think so. They're delicate. They have delicate systems.
Starting point is 01:30:18 You can't really bathe them. Like they're not great pets. Like people get them for their kids. They chew everything. But they're high maintenance. like people get them for their kids chew everything but they're they're high maintenance get them a guinea pig yeah well these rabbits attack our feet they're not smart you know like i mean they're they're fun actually but like we'll like it'll be dark and i'm walking through the house and they'll just run straight from my feet not realizing like i could crush you dude on accident what do they think it is?
Starting point is 01:30:45 but they're super playful if I run away they'll run after me and my kids love just running across the house do you get them fixed? no we just have two boys but they still hump each other like crazy
Starting point is 01:31:01 it's funny to watch I had some rabbits and we understood their warning. Good rabbit dealers or pet shops will explain to you how you take care of the rabbits. So when I was in Miami, we actually had a whole room
Starting point is 01:31:16 with just two rabbits in it. It wasn't that big of a room, but it was a decently sized room. The rabbits had the room to themselves. They poop everywhere and we feed them and then we clean and stuff. But they started getting into it because it was a boy and a girl. And so it didn't really work out because you know how rabbits are. And the girl, when she didn't want it, she would jump like eight feet in the air.
Starting point is 01:31:37 Because we put up a big barrier. So the room was like a sunroom. It was a room but the door was just always open. So we put a big thing in front of it and she would just straight over it and one day i go in there and she's gone we find her upstairs hiding because the dude rabbit was like you know he was he was oppressing her wow yeah good for a nice way of saying it what i what i what i like about it is like there's a lot of fertilizer and i've gotten seriously into the importance of topsoil topsoil and just the microbes in the soil and
Starting point is 01:32:12 there's like farmers around tennessee down in summertime that are like within six years going to have like several feet of topsoil on their farm like really doing it incredibly so but they have like guineas water buffalo different cows like tons of different animals and like really doing it incredibly. But they have like guineas, water buffalo, different cows, like tons of different animals, and they're doing it right. So that's why I don't mind seeing the bunny crap everywhere. I just go around, sweep it up. Bunny crap. You know what this Biden getting pooped on thing makes me think of?
Starting point is 01:32:37 The Bernie Sanders when the bird landed on his podium. Oh, yeah. And it was like a magical moment, people. Yeah, and then here's the other magical moment. Oh, yeah. Well, so we have, you guys probably know it, Chicken City. Oh, yeah. And those things poop everywhere.
Starting point is 01:32:53 So what I love about them is that they're smart enough not to drink poop water, but they're not smart enough not to poop in their water. So it's like you hand them water, they'll drink it. They'll turn around and just take a dump right in it and look at it and go like, I got to drink in that. It's like, well, you did it, dude. But when you go into the chicken coop, I always tell people, because when people come over, they'll be like, oh, can I come check them out?
Starting point is 01:33:11 I'll be, yeah, but your feet are going to be covered, caked in just chicken crap. And they're like, oh, you wash them off afterwards so you can just not go in there. But, you know, chickens, they poop. Is it safe enough to put plastic bags on your feet before you go? I was just thinking about those painter ones. Or just go with it. Just be one. When I go home to my family's farm, it's like I know for a fact that it's like I'm not coming out unscathed.
Starting point is 01:33:35 It must be good for your biome to be like, was it Joey Salatin, I think is his name? Is it Joel Salatin? He's a farmer. He's all about getting in there with the pig feces and how it enhances your biome and your immune system. I think I'm healthier because I was playing in the dirt as a kid. Yeah, for sure. Because I wasn't a
Starting point is 01:33:53 Purell kid. Purell kid. Pigs are scary. It actually does help with allergies. Early exposure helps with allergies. You just got to be careful with the parasite cycles. But actually, having a diversity of animals, they'll eat each other's crap and break Disposure helps with allergies. You just got to be careful with like the parasite cycles. Yes. But actually having a diversity of animals, they'll eat each other's crap and break the parasite cycles.
Starting point is 01:34:10 What? As well. That's weird. Yep. If you have them roaming around the same ground, they'll break the parasite cycles. And also keeping quail is really incredible because they don't make a ton of noise. Their eggs are really dense, you know, nutrient dense. And yeah, they don't make a ton of noise. Their eggs are really dense, nutrient dense.
Starting point is 01:34:27 They don't make much noise. You can be in an urban environment and you won't have that noise all the time. I think I need some quails. That sounds awesome. Chickens are noisy. Yeah, man. We got Roberto and then we got Roberto Jr. He had a kid and they just yell non-stop. The ladies are cool.
Starting point is 01:34:44 The dudes are loud. No, no, no, no, no, no. I think the ladies are actually worse. Really? So, yeah, the roosters are loud, but the girls just complain all day. They're not really complaining. They complain to each other. They're actually really happy, but they go around, and they go like, bark, bark, bark, bark, bark.
Starting point is 01:34:59 They're gossiping. Yeah. And you'll hear, like, I'll hear the con. So it's one thing to hear a cock-a-doodle-doo once in a while or the crowing. It's another thing when for like 30 minutes you're hearing... Are they laying an egg when they do that? So typically it's probably more than one chicken and they're doing the egg song. What is that?
Starting point is 01:35:15 They lay an egg and then they sing. Oh, wow. Have you guys ever had pigs? No. I would love to. Have you? Well, I will. So my mother's birthday was in February and her birthday present for me was a pet pig not a pig but it's out there but yeah I have what teacup
Starting point is 01:35:30 pig no she's no she's gonna be a full-size her name's Nora but I got her she was like two months old I had I was here already I had her delivered to my mom had it all set up and I don't know how big she is now her name's Nora that animal I mean so loud you if she does not want to be touched she's super sweet and she like comes when you call her. She's like a dog. But if you touch her in a weird way, I mean, it's like all hell. I mean, the loudest thing on the farm by like a long shot.
Starting point is 01:35:55 And she has all those birds and everything. But truly. Let's go to Super Chats. If you have not already, Super Chat. And send us your questions. Also smash that like button. Subscribe to this channel. Share the show if you really do want to help out with that grassroots marketing.
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Starting point is 01:36:34 to me tim i really appreciate it i think the current plan is that we're going to be at redneck riviera downtown nashville from 1 30 to.30. I think we'll all be there. Short stop. I think a good hour is enough to get a handful of songs in for everybody. I might play two. We'll see what happens. We got a hard stop to get out of there by 2.30. We got to be in the
Starting point is 01:36:57 car and be on the road because I got to make it back to West Virginia to get back to work. Colin, your buddy, says we're writing stories for the chickens in Chicken City. Roberto is the mayor of Chicken City after being a weathervane model and having an affair with Margaret Hatcher, Mayor of Roberto 2024.
Starting point is 01:37:13 And Roberto Jr. is his illegitimate son who's come to usurp his role. Scandal. Yep. You're not my father. In reality, though, you know, Roberto Jr. is starting to impose himself on Roberto's ladies. And Roberto's not having it.
Starting point is 01:37:31 The craziest thing is that, you guys, chickens do not have the same genetics as us. So they inbreed. They do. It's called line breeding. You're not supposed to do it too much, but it happens. And they don't care. They do not have familial relationships. So, like, Roberto sees his daughter and Roberto Jr. sees his mom. but it happens. And they don't care. They do not have familial relationships. So, like, Roberto sees his daughter, and Roberto Jr. sees his mom,
Starting point is 01:37:48 and they're just like, don't care. That's how it goes. Dinosaurs do that too, I guess, then? Chickens or dinosaurs? I've always wondered how dinosaurs actually do it. There you go. You know those huge tails? How do they mount one another?
Starting point is 01:38:02 It's just weird. Very aggressively, I would imagine. I don't spend a lot of time trying to figure that out all right clef the misfit says hey tim you said you're a twitter shareholder too why don't you reach out to other shareholders and launch a class action lawsuit since twitter violated their fiduciary duty i have 22 shares and i bought them after elon musk bought because i was like this is a good investment i mean elon musk would be a great leader for the company that's fantastic so after i heard i was like i'll go on twitter investment. I mean, Elon Musk would be a great leader for the company. That's fantastic. So after I heard, I was like, alright, I'll go on Twitter and see what's up, and I bought some. But
Starting point is 01:38:27 I may have had one before, and I think I just bought them. Now, it's like if Elon pulls out of Twitter because of this shady dealing, I'm going to end up losing a bunch of money. I'll be kind of pissed. But I'm not doing this for any kind of lawsuit or anything. I have a brokerage account or whatever with like a thousand
Starting point is 01:38:44 bucks in it, and I was like, oh yeah, Twitter, I guess twitter i guess why not i wasn't really thinking i don't want to be involved in any of that stuff if i was like a legitimate big investor then definitely because i think they're screwing over the shareholders no doubt because they're there's they're nuts maybe everybody should should should you know buy in all right daniel k says your honest coverage of florida has been much appreciated tampa a Democrat stronghold in Florida, has a green beret running for Congress, Jay Collins. It's a long shot flipping Tampa red, but I feel like Collins has a real chance at it. It would be great to see him on your show. We will take a look.
Starting point is 01:39:16 All right, let's grab some super chats as the raced cars keep going. Double A says, Femme Shapiro doesn't look the same without her leg up on the chair sorry guys sorry is that oh that's how i sit too that's comfortable yeah it's the knee oh wow what's this brad pitts junk says oh congrats to sticks on the birth of his daughter earlier this week hope you guys can have him on next time he's stateside wow yes congratulations sticks is fantastic he's a good dude. Yeah. Always been a big fan of Styx, Hex, and Hammer.
Starting point is 01:39:50 Steven White says, Tim and crew, the trending movies on Netflix are war movies, saving Private Ryan, the imaginary game. It's almost like they're trying to push World War III. What did I get recommended? I've been watching DC's Legends of Tomorrow, and then season six, I just stopped watching DC's Legends of Tomorrow and then season 6
Starting point is 01:40:06 I just stopped watching it. That show just like man, they jumped the shark. It was fun. It's like a DC superhero show, but now it's like turns out one guy's an alien and now there's a bunch of aliens and I'm just like, I don't know what you guys are talking about. It's stupid. It's just dumb.
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Starting point is 01:40:36 Oh, is it Cohen? Coin? Give it a shot. See if you like it. Cool, cool. Thanks, man. All right. Let's grab some more.
Starting point is 01:40:44 King Foe Panda says, Foundtt on tiktok this is my first ever super chat i've been subbed for so long it told me i couldn't chat because i subbed while watching child content whoa yeah had to unsubscribe to chat spin the ufo oh so if you have a child if you have like chill like under 13 content up in one window, YouTube won't let you subscribe to over 18 shows? Weird. Maybe that's strange. I think we're going to have to make sure Chicken City is for adult only. Oh, I thought.
Starting point is 01:41:12 Because we have short chicken gags that we're making. And we were here with Seamus. And so we recorded one that's really funny. And it's basically, it's not meant for, it's like maybe like six to nine years old is probably where it would be if it was like a kid's show. But it's the kind of jokes where, you know, an adult would like it too. But then as we were like ad-libbing, we did one really dark one where it was, you know, Roberto, he's got a daughter. You know, chickens don't really have, you know, they don't care. And so it's about line breeding, which is when fathers and daughters and sons and mothers breed. And I put it up on Instagram, but for some reason it wouldn't.
Starting point is 01:41:56 It was shadow banned. Like, nobody could see it. And I was like, well, it is particularly dark. Like, Roberto was drunk and he was like, where are you? And I'm like, we don't show anything. It was just like line reading and like a card pops up and explains how this happens
Starting point is 01:42:07 they wouldn't allow it and so I'm like maybe it shouldn't be like the darkest of humor at all and maybe we should just stick to the gag humor the gag humor joke
Starting point is 01:42:16 we have is just Roberto screaming and running around flipping out I thought kids would like it it was like Adult Swim 2007 yeah absolutely incredible
Starting point is 01:42:22 yeah I thought it was good also the first few, like, what, what, what, what? Like, no words. He's drunk. Like a drunk mumbling from a chicken.
Starting point is 01:42:30 Oh, my gosh. And he's drinking mealworm IPA. Yeah, so good. Yeah, Kent, our animator, Kent Welling, made that.
Starting point is 01:42:38 I put it up on Instagram. They wouldn't let me, and I was like, maybe it's because we say bitch in it, so I'll censor that. So now he says, you bicker. You know, so I don't know. But maybe I was like maybe it's because we say bitch in it so I'll censor that so now he says you you know so I don't know
Starting point is 01:42:48 but maybe I'm like maybe we should just stick to the stuff that's like more family friendly it was funny because I was talking to Kent and I was like hey here's the sound like the voiceover stuff we recorded don't make that one like I think we are just you know being vulgar and I'm like make the one
Starting point is 01:43:04 where it's just like the kids show where they're like counting how many eggs they have. And then Roberto screams and runs around going nuts. And I'm like, it's just silly kid stuff. And he's like, you got it. And then he messages me, sends the clip and he says, it has been made. And I'm like, this one looks a little shorter than it should be. And I played it and I was just laughing. There's got to be a network to run that on.
Starting point is 01:43:23 Instagram wouldn't let it go. I don't know. Just fun chicken packs. Maybe Fox. Rumble. I think it to be a network to run that on. There's got to be. Instagram wouldn't let it go. I don't know. Just fun chicken packs. Maybe Fox. Rumble. I think it's too hot for Fox. Rumble. Pay for it to run as an advertisement.
Starting point is 01:43:32 That's the one. That's it. After 10 p.m. only. It's really good. All right. Let's... Adrian Contreras says, I'm not going to smash the like button, Tim,
Starting point is 01:43:43 but I will tickle it ever so gently. I'm still pushing for Glenn Jacobs on the show too. Can we make that happen? We'll take a look. C Santos says, my fiance is Gen Z and she can't stand the content that Brett makes. She thinks it's overcritical and bullying. I've been trying
Starting point is 01:44:00 to get her to understand the culture war that's happening but no luck so far. I think that's the thing about the challenge of the culture war is that if someone walks up to you and slaps you in the face, and then you were like, guys, I'm really angry. This guy's been slapping me in the face. Let me explain to you. People are going to be like, why are you being so mean to that guy? I don't even know who that guy is. They'll assume that your criticism of legitimate things is mean or wrong.
Starting point is 01:44:26 And it's like, bro, I'm not the person who's throwing paint in someone's face. You know, like, they're the ones throwing paint at us. It's funny to hear that, though, because I do get criticism for being too empathetic to people, though. People on the right who are like, I did an episode about Emma Watson. Or there was something I was doing with Demi Lovato who was like, I still really like her music. Like, I think she's fantastic. Like, that kind of thing. People are like, how dare you say nice things about her?
Starting point is 01:44:49 And it's like, we're still human beings. You can still criticize people and the ridiculous things that they do and find humor in it. And still. Yeah, I wouldn't say, I wouldn't say bully. I've been watching your stuff. And like, I mean, honestly, like it's, you definitely have your style. But I think it's from certain perspectives. You have people saying that you're being too empathetic and other people saying you're
Starting point is 01:45:10 bullying. Well, if you're on the internet, you can't please everybody. So it has to be kind of like, okay. With comments, this is like Joe Rogan would tell people, don't read the comments. But you actually have a show called The Comment Section. And I love reading the comments. Just don't take it personally. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:45:23 Any of it. The good stuff or the bad stuff. It's hard not to take the good stuff personally when like you're so awesome i love when you did this thing and you're like yeah me too uh but don't take it personally because then you start to take the negative stuff personally yeah all right well here's terry teramoto jr says brett cooper thanks for selling me on homeschooling on your instagram for when i have kids already hated public schools before it was cool to hate them, so it wasn't difficult, but your stuff on homeschooling is what made me decide
Starting point is 01:45:49 that was the solution. Amazing. That actually makes me very happy. That's awesome. Homeschooling. For the win. So good. Wouldn't have changed a thing. Dan Yella Sanchez says, Hey guys, I want to audition for the Daily Wire's upcoming production as an actor.
Starting point is 01:46:05 How can one find out how to audition? If I have to relocate to Nashville, I will do it. Have an awesome day, guys. Well, Brett, you run casting for Daily Wire, right? Oh yeah, that's my other job. I actually have, I get a lot of people, we have a lot of people that DM me asking for jobs, they're like, how do you find, you know, careers and that kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:46:23 I actually have no idea how the casting process goes for the films. But I will say, if you're trying to work at Daily Wire, you can go to our career page. It's not too difficult to find. It is funny when I have people being like, where do I find it? I was like, type in Daily Wire careers. If you really are motivated to come work for us, I promise you, you will find a way.
Starting point is 01:46:41 Ken Pittsburgh says we are already in the metaverse. When we die, the carny will take off your VR glasses you'll ask how long you're in there and he'll point to a sign that says $5 for 5 minutes chicken city yeah it's like Rick and Morty when they go to Blitz
Starting point is 01:46:57 and Chitz have you guys seen that one have you seen it he's like let's go play Roy and you sit down and you put this headset on and then you go limp and then you live an entire life as some guy named Roy and they're like they're watching Morty play and then after he comes out he's like where am I? I'm
Starting point is 01:47:14 Morty and Rick is like you went back to the carpet store? Jesus let me play and then everyone's watching him and they're like whoa he's taking this guy off the grid he doesn't have a social security number oh my gosh that's amazing he's taking this guy off the grid. He doesn't have a social security number. Yeah, it was funny. He's taking him off the grid.
Starting point is 01:47:29 Roy. Alright, seriously, JK says, the other day I tweeted at Elon Musk to buy all of Twitter and then immediately shut it down. I have not heard back from him yet, but I'll keep you all posted. I mean, if Elon Musk doesn't get in, it's doomed anyway. If Elon Musk gets the company, he'll fix it.
Starting point is 01:47:46 So, you know. 3D Pyromaniac says, Brett should go on Mug Club and play newest gender pronouns now. What is that? Is that Crowder? Yeah, it's Crowder. Love it. I'll be at Blaze next week. Cool. Yeah, awesome.
Starting point is 01:48:01 That's in Austin, right? Dallas. Dallas. I was there. How did I get that wrong? All right. Enslaved said, Tim, it would be awesome if you checked out music. My new album is called
Starting point is 01:48:13 Defund the Politicians. Search Enslaved Ones on here or any streaming service. Hey, man. Always interested in people making culture and succeeding with it. Zoidberg says,
Starting point is 01:48:24 I constantly promote free the code but that's no guarantee that the open source code is the same code that's running on the live system interesting yeah Shinobi Strongside Ian I have I have that time dilations almost every night it was so bad I had to go on
Starting point is 01:48:42 disability living whole lives in one night eventually I learned how to manage it. Time is definitely illusion. Oh, interesting. Yeah, I'd love to find out how you managed it, too. That was very cool. I wonder if that's, like, something that a lot of people have experienced. Like, let's actually get a name.
Starting point is 01:48:58 Because that would be a wild disorder to have. Like, each night living a full life. Jeez. That would be pretty wild check this out dragon lady says deep space nine episode hard time o'brien lives a 20-year prison sentence that's implanted in his brain in a few hours causes a bunch of psychological problems afterward great episode crazy very cool yeah what if what if all we're all this is right now our lives are actually a metaverse we're all three years old and the point is to give you a full life of experience and wisdom so you come out you're three and you're like whoa and they're like we wanted to make sure that before you started you
Starting point is 01:49:36 knew what you were doing so i will eat less sugar as a teenager see see they're gonna you're gonna come out you're gonna be three and you're gonna be like i'm alive i what come out and you're going to be three and you're going to be like, I'm alive! What am I? And they're going to be like, what did you learn? What did you learn? I'm not going to eat sugar when I'm a teenager. You pass. Keep going. Someone else is like, I want donuts.
Starting point is 01:49:58 Back in. No, no, no. That's a return. No redemption. I was like, put them back in back in you got to go around again yeah all right uh king king deem says or king to me says tim we already have the metaverse for years it's called vr chat the videos about journalists living in the metaverse for days are not original at all there's literally dozens of videos of the same kind. What Facebook did is not relevant. No, I understand. So when we
Starting point is 01:50:28 talk about metaverse, it's typically in reference to the coming brain implants where they stick the metal into your neck and then you actually are in the metaverse. Through a neural net. Yeah. See, I think, I feel like most guys would say yes instantly.
Starting point is 01:50:44 I was watching watching i want to fight a dragon bro yeah i've been seeing videos of people going into the metaverse they'll be like i was in the metaverse for 30 days and there's like a youtube video about it and they said one guy was saying that a lot of people in the universe just look at look into mirrors and stare at themselves what you'll see groups of people just staring at themselves in a mirror in the metaverse like did you ever see that thing where they put vr headsets on on people a man and a woman they stood in front of each other but their vr headsets were each other's camera so the man they would like both of you look down slowly and then they would
Starting point is 01:51:19 like now feel your body and they would feel their body the same way but the dude was seeing the woman's body and the woman was seeing the dude's body so it's like when you touch your hands you feel like you're in the other person's body. Oh, that's so weird. Yeah, creepy. Yikes. Yeah, and then they have like touch your leg
Starting point is 01:51:37 and so you feel like because you're seeing in the lenses the other body. That's mirror neurons going. That's what allows when when you see somebody crying or somebody fall and scrape their knee or something like that your mirror neurons empathize to the point where you can feel it that's crazy yeah i think the illness can yeah there's a like that sometimes too in uh like in skateboarding whenever you watch slam videos you can feel the slam i don't it's crazy like i'll watch someone
Starting point is 01:52:05 hit the ground and i feel the jolt in my body i'm like oh man don't like that crazy right yeah you know they say that if you don't experience that that like sociopaths don't experience that phenomenon so it's like how they test for it they'll show you they'll show you a bit they'll show a video of someone getting hurt in some way, and if you don't have a response, they think something's there. Yeah. Yeah, that's why I can't stand how just... I'm like, I turn on Instagram and too many videos are slams. I'm like, dude, if I see a slam coming, I'm getting out.
Starting point is 01:52:35 Because I'm going to... You don't feel it, but you feel it. You know what I mean? You get that feeling? All right. Let's grab some more super chats. What do we got? D Stuff says,
Starting point is 01:52:47 have you guys heard of Vince Dow and the American Populist Union? He's someone I've been a fan of for a little while. You should have him on the show. Keep up the good work. I do not know who that is. I'm going to write that down.
Starting point is 01:52:55 He's a good guy. I know him from PragerU. He's a really sweet kid. Not kid, I guess. He's a little younger than me. Yeah. Party Hard J says, Twitter moderation has gotten so bad
Starting point is 01:53:05 that I got suspended today for asking you if Redneck Riviera would be open to the public tomorrow. What? It was labeled hateful conduct and my appeal was denied. Email you guys screenshots. Wow. That's nuts.
Starting point is 01:53:15 Because Redneck probably... Wow. That's weird. Here's the plan. Redneck Riviera exists. It is John Rich's venue. We have no formal plan with the venue other than John Rich owns it. And he said, let's go jam.
Starting point is 01:53:27 And I said, okay. So if it's open, it's open. If it's not, I have no idea what's going on. But 1.30, that's the plan. 1.30 p.m. Yep. Yeah, Ian's going to headline. We're going to put banners up for him.
Starting point is 01:53:37 I'll be screaming. He'll play some songs, I guess. You're going to be there, Ben? I'll play something. Yeah. Carter will be there. He's from Timcast. So I think everyone will be able to get in as much as they want to play.
Starting point is 01:53:48 I'll probably only play a couple songs. I might even have to leave early just because we got to get on the road. But actually no, probably not. You going? Maybe I'll come. Oh, wow. I'll do a jig. You play music? Yeah. I don't play any instruments. At the very least, if you do come, I think I'm like,
Starting point is 01:54:04 John, this place is going to be so packed. Because people are going to drive up. People are going to head out. I mean, it's downtown Nashville. Which is already on a Saturday. But John Rich is announcing on the show he is going to be there. So like, yo. John Rich of Big and Rich.
Starting point is 01:54:20 If you don't know who I'm talking about. Don't look at me. I'm like, you're telling people you're doing a show. People are going to show up. It's going to be crazy. And he's like, yeah, yeah, of course. It's always packed. And I'm like, alright, look at me. I'm like, you're telling people you're doing a show. People are going to show up. It's going to be crazy. And he's like, yeah, yeah, of course. It's always packed. And I'm like, all right, man.
Starting point is 01:54:29 I think we're going to need like the car pulled around back because we got it. We got a hard stop. We got to get on the road. We've got missions to accomplish. All right. Ben says, great video this morning, Tim. Quote, I wake up every day and lay a brick. Great message.
Starting point is 01:54:43 Bad wording. Very bad. Yeah. No way. No, brick laying. I'm totally fine with it. In fact, if wake up every day and lay a brick. Great message. Bad wording. Very bad. No way. No, bricklaying. I'm totally fine with it. In fact, if it made people laugh, all the better. Every day I wake up, I lay a brick. What is that? Pooping? I poop a brick? That's also good for you. It works for me. My body is a machine and it cranks out
Starting point is 01:54:57 large rectangular bricks. And then I take and I go, this is mine, and I slam it onto the building that I'm making, and... Magical. Every day... Shithouse. Okay.
Starting point is 01:55:07 Yeah. Every day you add a brick. Every day you add a brick. I love this. What that means is, you know, where we are now with this crazy fifth wheel trailer in the Daily Wire parking lot
Starting point is 01:55:21 doing shows with, you know, these guests, it's not like one day I woke up and I wrote down, here's how you do all this thing. It was like, every day I was just like, I will place this brick right here on this building. And one day you look, you take a step back 20 feet and you're like, this thing's huge. It just happens
Starting point is 01:55:35 one step at a time. Christina H says, Miss Cooper, I love your show. Happy Friday, cast. Have fun tomorrow. We will. We're going to be driving a lot. Oh yeah. Good times. JDC Gaming says there are only 31 possible plots that have ever been created for movies. And I kind of feel like that's true. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:52 Is there a villain's journey? Yeah. Is there? There is, yeah. Well, there's the hero's journey, which is the famous, you know, story map architecture. I wonder if there's a villain's journey. I think the whole Megamind thing. Maybe I don't want to be the bad guy anymore. No, that's a hero's journey.
Starting point is 01:56:07 There's one in this ish. Yeah, it's just he's still a hero. The Watchmen, the cartoon that's played throughout the movie, the guy on the pirate ship. Do you remember this cartoon? It's incredible. I'll tell the story, I guess. He's trying to get back home. His ship is
Starting point is 01:56:23 raided by pirates and everyone is killed except for him. And he's on a lifeboat trying to get back to his wife and family, but he knows that these pirates are going to kill them. So he spends just weeks paddling to get there. His crew is rotting, starts to rot, and then he starts to hallucinate, and they come alive, and they're like, you did this to me, and he's losing his mind. He finally gets back, and he's this wild animal looking to kill these pirates.
Starting point is 01:56:43 And the town is crazy, and in the shadows he sees one of them, and he kills him. And it to kill these pirates. And the town is crazy. And in the shadows, he sees one of them and he kills them. And it turns out the pirate he killed was actually his wife. Oh, my. He became the demon that he sought to destroy. I like Mr. Freeze better. Do you know Mr. Freeze's story? Mm-mm.
Starting point is 01:56:59 You're young, so I get to tell you. You know, most comic book villains were like, I'm going to take over the world. But Mr. Freeze, in the Batman animated series, his wife was terminally ill. So he was siphoning funds from the corporation he worked at to work on research to save her life while keeping her frozen so that she wouldn't die. And when the boss finds out, he comes in and he's like, this is what you've been doing with my money. Shut it down. He's like, no, you'll kill Nora. And then he gets hit with all these chemicals, becomes Mr. Freeze. And and then he becomes a villain his motivation is he's trying to save his wife
Starting point is 01:57:29 so mania it's obsessive love it's a type of love that can twist people i think it's just love it's like a guy who is willing to do whatever he has to to save his wife at the expense of others the greeks have they've derived eight types of love one of them is mania and that means obsessive love there's like eros which is erotic love there's pragma which is like pragmatic love like paleo brotherly love no no no it's mr freeze it was just romantic love romantic love and and the reason he's a good, it's because it's love and loyalty, but selfishness. That he didn't care who he hurt. He was creating the same problem. The people he hurt when he was trying to save his wife are experiencing the same pain that he's experiencing, but he doesn't care.
Starting point is 01:58:14 So it's narcissism and romantic love. But it was brilliant. I think they won an Emmy for it. Love it. All right. Let's grab a couple more Super Chats as we go through. We've let's grab a couple more super chats as we go through we got we got time for a couple more john smith says haven't used reddit since they banned the donald it was basically them outright admitting they were absolutely partisan it's no longer a place to share content
Starting point is 01:58:36 it's a place to spread propaganda propaganda yeah i go on reddit all the time and when i see these people be like social media isn't biased what they're just trying to do is shut up you go on reddit and it's like there was two subreddits hit the top of all from me saying I don't I went to a diner and I didn't want to wait because they sat someone in front of me and it was like the right can't meme posted
Starting point is 01:58:58 it and I'm like what is me telling a story about not waiting at a diner which was me intentionally telling a story about me being at a diner, which was me intentionally telling a story about me being disagreeable and kind of annoying sometimes, have to do with right-wing politics at all. But that's what you get when you go on Reddit.
Starting point is 01:59:13 Rarely do you see anything that is against the establishment. It's always... Sometimes you'll see r slash conservative make it up there. But right now it's like Elon Musk wants to buy Twitter. Every comment is oh this is bad and wrong every story is elon is a goblin yeah yeah yeah elon's great we look we
Starting point is 01:59:31 love what he's doing all right we got room for a couple more babic says hi i sent an email to spin the ufo please check it out also how can i pitch my tech company idea to take over big tech to the daily wire Is there an email? I don't know if Brett has the answers to those questions. Oh, yeah, you know me and all my powerful knowledge as the casting director. Yes, right. That's true. All right. TXP says, my 17-year-old daughter just told me she wished technology would go away.
Starting point is 02:00:01 I told her about EMP. Well, there you go. Perfect. Right on. All right. technology would go away, I told her about EMP. Well, there you go. Perfect. Right on. Alright, Zombie Lord says, the villain's story is the Greek story of Physith... Physith... Physisthus?
Starting point is 02:00:14 Physisthus. Physisthus? Interesting. Where... Or is it Physiasthus? Whatever. Where the main is forced to roll a boulder up a hill for it to fall to the bottom in a cycle it's sisyphus isn't it oh yeah sisyphus oh yeah but they but you know what they wrote is physicist yeah sisyphus yeah yeah he was pushing up the boulder but he couldn't interesting
Starting point is 02:00:36 only to fall to the bottom of cycle one can only work for the power they can have absolutely all right we'll grab this uh this we'll grab this one here brenton connor says ghost in the shell freaks me out about neural link ghost in the shell is legit good show you've seen it yeah if you're interested in metaverse stuff just check it out it's uh in the future people have like prosthetic bodies so their brain or ghost is put into a different body or they get like prosthetic eyes and all this weird stuff cool stuff ladies. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Friday night in Nashville. We're going to go party. If you haven't already, smash that like button. Smash it for Ian.
Starting point is 02:01:10 Crush it. Don't be afraid of technology. It's neutral. Just use it properly. Go tickle it. Or tickle it. Tickle the like button ever so gently. Four play is okay. Oh my gosh. It is Friday night.
Starting point is 02:01:23 Head over to Timcast.com become a member support our work you guys are the lifeblood of the company and we are only able to do this because of all of you who sign up and enjoy our members only content monday through thursday at 8 p.m so we really do appreciate it you can follow the show at timcast irl we have reels on instagram so you can catch short clips throughout your day you can follow me at timcast I guess if you want to see weird things on Twitter and me talking nonsense, it's a lot of fun. Brett, do you want to shout anything out? Yeah, you can go subscribe to the comment section. We do it
Starting point is 02:01:52 every day, five days a week. It's a good time. I know. I go through the comment section so you don't have to. It's really benevolent of me, honestly. Wow, thank you very much. What's your social media? I'm Brett Cooper on everything. Alright. Ben? Yeah, go to benjosephstuart.com.
Starting point is 02:02:09 That's where you can find all my work. I'm doing a lot of documentaries lately and pushing the envelope of conscious media. Ian Crossland, happy to see you guys. This was a fantastic week in Nashville. Brett, thanks for having us to The Daily Wire. I appreciate it. Happy to have you. You putting it together for us. As the head of production. But really, this has been a spectacular opportunity. And I'm so glad.
Starting point is 02:02:30 Tim, thanks for having me. This is just great, you guys. So thanks for being here with us. And I will see you guys next week. Yeah, this week was absolutely an adventure. Thank you guys, everyone, for tuning in as we mashed it up with The Daily Wire. That was a freaking blast. I really hope that we can do this again. It was a great time. Met some great people,
Starting point is 02:02:46 learned some cool new stuff, and did some interesting technological things. Hopefully we can just go further next time. I'm stoked. Anyway, you guys can follow me on Twitter, minds.com at SarahPatchLids or at SarahPatchLids.me Ladies and gentlemen, just the other day, Chicken City
Starting point is 02:03:02 generated $1,495. So head over to YouTube.com slash Chicken City or ChickenCityLive.com. We are going to make gag short cartoons that are family-friendly. I know we made a not family-friendly one, but apparently I can't upload that anyway. And we are working on a plan for a terrestrial television commercial that i would love to get on tucker carlson and so uh chicken city has been a great success it's a relaxing show where you watch chickens make chicken sounds and uh you can check that out
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