Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #511 - Biden DROPS Airline Mask Enforcement, TSA Back Down After Court Defeat w/Braxton McCoy

Episode Date: April 19, 2022

Tim, Ian, Brett from Pop Culture Crisis, and Lydia host author and veteran Braxton McCoy to discuss the Biden administration's recent loss on airline mask requirements, Jen Psaki's name-calling of Pet...er Doocy, Alex Jones' refusal to declare bankruptcy, Ron Desantis' stance on math textbooks and CRT, and the return of religion. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Biden is officially backing away from the mask enforcement on airlines after a court ruling struck it down. Now, the funny thing is, earlier today at the press briefing, Jen Psaki was actually asked about this, and she's like, well, we're still going to recommend it. And when Peter Doocy was like, why would you recommend masks? But here in this room, we don't got to wear them. She's like, are you a doctor, Peter? Are you a doctor? I'm not a doctor. And then Peter, I think he said, and I don't play one, nor do I play one on TV. Ha ha. But it's really funny. That's like going to be the go-to answer now for anything ever in politics is that you don't
Starting point is 00:00:33 actually have any expertise, so you can't answer any questions. But here we go. It's actually big news. Now, apparently, if you want to fly, if you're ready to fly right now, they're saying they're not enforcing it. So it's going to be a shock to a lot of flight attendants and pilots when people all just take their masks off, throw them in the air like it's graduation. I wonder how many people are still going to actually keep their masks on. We got other news too. Alex Jones reportedly filed for bankruptcy, but he's saying he didn't actually file for bankruptcy. He's filing for chapter 11 reorganization, but now it's just framing because that's still under bankruptcy laws but he's saying he's doing this so the feds can look at his books to see that he's not hiding any money which is interesting we'll get into all that stuff plus we got a bunch of crazy stories
Starting point is 00:01:12 ronda santos he's he's pulling florida pulled a whole bunch of math books because they had critical race theory in them and the left is freaking out but the question is why do math books have critical race theory in them anyway some other interesting news john stewart's new show has flopped good get woke go broke there it is so we'll talk about all of that joining us today is braxton mccoy thanks for having me tim would you like to introduce yourself sure i am a horse trainer author of this book the glass factory about getting wounded in iraq and then coming home and starting over and i I also run this program called The Bunk House where we bring people in and teach them skills, first aid skills, field medical stuff. We take them hunting, backcountry stuff,
Starting point is 00:01:53 just kind of like trying to teach the skills that appreciate older people. So we're kind of like almost like the grandpa some people needed to have when they were younger, but just doing it for them as an adult. Oh, right on. Glad to have you, man. I'll just mention, too, we have a headphone exception for Cowboy Hits. That's right. John Rich last week.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Thank you. God bless you, John. Right on. And we're hanging out with Brett Dasavik. How's it going, everybody? I am Brett Dasavik, the host of Pop Culture Crisis. We actually just finished filming the 100th episode today. Whoa, congrats.
Starting point is 00:02:21 And that will come out tomorrow. So I hope you guys check that out, and I'm glad to here youtube.com slash pop culture crisis one of the new shows from timcast.com yes we got ian hi everybody we're back and it feels good to be home i'll tell you that i rolled an 81 if it means anything to you on the 100 side of die so let's get rolling very cool i'm very glad to be back here with my familiar cameras hopefully i don't make any more camera mistakes or mic mistakes hopefully uh our next trip will be much smoother. I'm really looking forward to that already. And before we get started, I just want to have a moment of silence for all of our business owners today because it is tax day and I'm sure all of you have been collectively punched in the
Starting point is 00:02:58 gut when your accounts came back and said, oh, here's what you owe. And you're like, oh man, it's a brutal day, isn't it? You know, it's funny because, you know, I'm dreading tax day because, you know, you've got to set money aside. And then when my accountant comes back and they're like, there's the damage. And I'm just like, wow. Think about how much stuff we could do. But now I'm going to give all that money to the government so they can go blow up kids and stuff like that. And I'm just like, there's a bunch of stuff they do wrong with our tax dollars.
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Starting point is 00:04:36 Now, let's jump to the first big story, which is not from TimGast.com. It's from the Daily Mail. Biden administration says TSA will not enforce masks on planes due to a court ruling after Psaki said, I'm not a doctor when asked why face coverings are still recommended. You know, so this is it right now. We have a quote here, I suppose, that today's court decision means CDC public transportation masking order is not in effect at this time. An admin official said, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:03 I don't know what that means. If you're maybe Maybe you're in an airport right now and you're listening on your headphones. You're about to board your plane and they're telling you you still got to wear your mask. I honestly have no idea. Maybe you can show them this and be like, hey, I'm watching live right now. They're saying I don't got to wear a mask. Well, that's what the TSA said. But these private airlines might still want to enforce masks. So we'll see. But I just think it's absolutely hilarious that we're at this point now where during the White House press briefing, Jen Psaki is like, regardless of the federal court ruling,
Starting point is 00:05:28 we're still recommending masks. And then when Peter Doocy says, why, why are you recommending masks if we don't have to wear masks here in the White House? And her answer was, I'm not a doctor. Are you a doctor? And it's like, that's the go-to response from now on, right? For anything. You can also read it like, why are you saying I still need to wear masks? And she's like that's the go-to response from now on, right, for anything? You can also read it like, why are you saying I still need to wear masks? And she's like, because I'm not a doctor and I can – Yeah, right. That's gross. I have no idea what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:05:53 That's why. Yeah. It will be the go-to answer for everything. Every time something happens in the economy, I'm not an economist. I have no idea. Anytime the jobs report enters lower than normal, I'll be like, I don't know. I'm not a job recru an economist i have no idea uh anytime uh the jobs report unders and like enters up you know lower than normal like i don't know i'm not a job recruiter i have no idea why are gas prices so high are you a petroleum engineer i'm not a petroleum engineer okay
Starting point is 00:06:15 yeah i think it points to how they're all technocrats at heart though you know like that's like the whole thing is this this this pivot to expertise is because they want to control and manage everything top down. So they're like, well, I'm not the person that can manage that top down. I'm just like a part of this technocratic team, and that's not like my position or whatever. Was there like a memo that went out when Ketanji Brown Jackson was asked to define woman? And she's like, I'm not a biologist. And then all of a sudden some Democrat strategist went, oh, that's it. And he's like
Starting point is 00:06:45 he writes the memo up from now on this is what we do i am not insert specialty but how do you guys feel about the masks i mean what is this what does this mean is this the end of tyranny or is this like it's a step in the right direction the united states isn't it's not here because of of a fake trash constitution or country or people we We did this for real to get to this place. And this is an example of the American law working. I think masks personally are disgusting. I don't know if that's what you were asking about how I feel about masks. Feeling the sweat and stick on my face after five hours on a plane of breathing,
Starting point is 00:07:17 talking about recirculated air. I just could never fathom, I really understand how that should have been better for me. Well, Ian came upstairs and he was like, masks, no more masks so i was like dancing in for real like teachers letting you go home with no homework or something yeah that's what it felt like it really feels like that and that's silly that's like they're gaslighting us to feel like that i think gaslight's the right word because i shouldn't be celebrating back to normalcy i should just be expecting it and ready for it i mean ultimately you got to remember this is going to be enforced
Starting point is 00:07:45 by a TSA employee and those people are, on average, retarded. Can I use that word? I don't know. I think they consider it a slur. Okay. My bad.
Starting point is 00:07:55 It means they're our slurs. Mentally deficient. There you go. Okay, there you go. I like that. It's more, it sounds smarter. It's a scientific term for behavior, though. Like, retard, the word itself is to mean slow. There you go. Okay, there you go. I like that. It's more, it sounds smarter. It's a scientific term for behavior, though. Like, retard, the word itself is to mean slow.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Yeah, yeah. If you don't call people names and stuff. I meant to slur. But just real quick, I think mentally deficient is more offensive. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Because they're too dumb to get it. Well, no, it's just like you're trying to make it sound smarter or like there's something wrong with them.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Yeah. Anyway. Well, no, it's just like you're trying to make it sound smarter or like there's something wrong with them. Yeah. I mean, one time I was flying back home from San Jose. I was at a speaking gig, and I had a T-shirt on that had a grenade on it. And this dude at TSA was like, do you think you should be wearing that to the airport? I was like, excuse me? He said, do you think that's appropriate? And I said, do you think you should be giving me fashion advice? Aren't you supposed to be looking at my bag or something?
Starting point is 00:08:46 Can't say bomb on an airplane. TSA is interesting. I'm from the pre-911 era, and there was no TSA. It felt very authoritarian and weird when they created that after 9-11. And then when you find out there weren't weapons of mass destruction in the Middle East, and what the heck is this war on terror really? Why do we still have a TSA? I don't think.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Yeah, now you've got grandmas taking their belts off because we decided to you know invade uh iraq or whatever the funniest thing about the airport thing is i was flying a lot when i came out here when i when i moved out here for work was uh the most uh the hilarious part was like when you look at all the signs so you have to wear this you have to wear that they all had like sponsored by purell uh sponsored it was like it was like is that not the most like corporatist thing you've ever seen where it's like all your signs that tell you you have to do this,
Starting point is 00:09:29 behave this way at the airport. None of it mentioning COVID or anything like that at all. I just like to imagine that there's like some, you know, the president of Purell or whatever company
Starting point is 00:09:41 is like, his hair's all disheveled and he's going through the books and he's like and he calls his wife and he goes, honey, we're not going to have Christmas dinner. Sales are just really bad. And then he looks at the TV and it's like COVID lockdown. He goes, oh.
Starting point is 00:09:53 And then he throws the papers in the air and he opens one and he goes, get to work, boys. We're back in business. Now he's like super rich and he's got Scrooge McDuck swimming through money. That was one of the memes. It says the owner of Purell right now. It's a guy who's got nine gold chains on and a ring on each finger.
Starting point is 00:10:09 It's like that's exactly what it is. Them and whoever invented the mask, whoever's producing the masks. China. China. Wasn't the MyPillow guy making masks and they still hate him? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:20 That's right. Yeah, he shifted production to start making masks. And they were like, Masterbad now. We can't support anything he's doing. That was that because I'm from Minnesota. It was really funny. Like people from Minnesota just hated that guy for no reason. They have no idea why.
Starting point is 00:10:34 They just they've just been told that they have to hate him. We got to pull up this tweet. It's a great tweet. And, you know, let me just preface this by saying I don't I don't normally care to mock people who are just not relevant. But this woman is apparently an elected representative and an elected official. This woman, Lindsay Sabadosa, says today a federal judge called it overreach for U.S. health officials to require masks on airplanes and other public transit. And no matter how you feel about masks, you should be really, really concerned that the courts are effectively taking away power from the federal government. Should we now?
Starting point is 00:11:12 Okay. Okay. Hold on there a minute. It was a federal judge who issued a ruling on a federal mandate. This is more of an, I guess if you think that the courts are taking away the power from the federal government, if she's discussing some kind of like Ouroboros, the snake eating itself, maybe. But I think she has no idea what she's talking about. I think she means taking power away from the executive branch as it was intended, and that's what we have the separation of powers for.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Don't be charitable, Ian. That's my job like this is this is the thing that i think we often do is joe biden will do something and we'll be like well maybe he really meant this and i totally agree this is a foolish and irrational treat it tweet it doesn't make any sense and she's all sorts of names no no i don't have anything but that's a that's a dumb tweet that is wrong the court's job is to strip away power from the executive branch if it goes too far. Well, it's to interpret the law. Progressive Democrat and state representative, 1st Hampshire District.
Starting point is 00:12:15 I believe it's in Massachusetts. That's correct. And it's just, oh my stars and garters. So I looked her up and she's also, before she's a politician, it says she's an activist. And I was like, yeah, that checks out. Well, look, look. I want to say I mean no ill will towards this woman. She said nothing mean to me.
Starting point is 00:12:32 She just was – she just doesn't know what she's talking about. And so the first thing I always like to do is just say, hey, you were wrong. You should fix that. I don't want to rag on her for being incorrect about this or not understanding how the government works. But I will say, while we try to be nice and respectful, because she has not, maybe she's talked about me in the past. I don't have an idea. But if she's said nothing mean to me, I don't want to be mean to her. I would just say I have serious questions about her ability to work in government if she doesn't understand what courts,
Starting point is 00:13:06 federal courts are and what they do. That is a more professional critique, right? Yeah. Trying to keep things respectful, I guess. Isn't the whole progressive claim that they're for the people and power of the people and all this and everything they tweet or say or whatever is all about power of the government?
Starting point is 00:13:21 No, I got to stop you there. I think progressives are authoritarian and I'm pretty sure they've always been now i agree with that but i don't think they claim to be for the people oh i see yeah yeah like these some of them may because it's probably you know from authoritarian to libertarian to a certain degree but typically progressive just refers to you know uh doing what you we think is right for the sake of progress. So these are people who in the past were eugenicists. I don't think the progressive movement has ever been particularly,
Starting point is 00:13:53 we want to protect all of the people. It's more like, how do we control the system better? Yeah, and maybe I'm making a mistake of using AOC as the avatar of progressivism because with her, she's just always talking about the people, the people, the people, the people. But in practicality or in reality, it's always about more power consolidation. Well, yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 00:14:14 tankies, communists and stuff, they're saying, we're going to help the people by force. And that's kind of like AOC. I'm surprised people still defend her. It's remarkable. There was that guy. What's his name?
Starting point is 00:14:29 Chris, I think his name is, the union guy in New York. He started a union at the Amazon factory. They fired him. And then he started a union. Very successful. Tucker Carlson had him on. And he's busted his ass to get this done, to push back against one of the most, I think, Amazon is evil. Terrible company, but we're all addicted to it.
Starting point is 00:14:47 And AOC is nowhere to be found. And then when he wins, when the warehouse votes to unionize, AOC is all tweeting like, yeah, we did it. And he's just like, what? Where have you been? Chris Smalls is his name. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good for him, man. Amazon, Russell Brand just had a video that came out yesterday about Amazon has an internal messaging service in there,
Starting point is 00:15:09 and they're censoring words. You can't say certain phrases like union or bathroom break. And it's just like, is that not the most authoritarian thing ever now? It's like they want to reward you by having kind of like how you have likes on Instagram and stuff like that. So it's like you don't want to get a raise. You want to get your coworkers to give you likes on your internal messaging service app for your company that doesn't let you talk about bathroom breaks
Starting point is 00:15:32 and doesn't allow you to unionize because, what did they say? They spent $93 million on anti-union lobbyists or something in the same year. I'm looking at theverge.com. Some of the words that Amazon's banned with that app, master, slave, injustice, ethics. You can't say the same year. I'm looking at TheVerge.com. Some of the words that Amazon's banned with that app, master, slave, injustice, ethics. You can't say the word ethics. You can't say the word ethics. You can't say diversity.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Unfairly. It's all right then. What the hell? I love Bezos. Let's rag on Jen Psaki a little bit. We have this story from The Independent. Psaki says – is her name Psaki? Is it Psaki?
Starting point is 00:16:09 Psaki Bomb. Psaki Bomb. Says Peter Doocy sounds like a stupid son of a bee. Yeah. Or keep it family friendly. Because of Fox's questions, Biden caught on hot mic in January calling Doocy a stupid SOB over inflation question. And then Psaki just comes out and says it. I just want to point out,
Starting point is 00:16:29 I was watching Peter Doocy question Jen at the White House press briefing today. And I was offended at how bad she was at this. Because I've praised her in the past as being a good spin doctor. Because, you know, Biden will do something just horrifyingly bad, or he'll just like fall asleep in public or something. I'm kidding, by the way.
Starting point is 00:16:45 But he'll, and she'll find a way to spin it. And I'm like, yeah, she's good. I mean, she's doing what she does. But today it was just like, wow. And you know, really, well, let me, let me explain. She was asked Peter Doocy, why do you recommend masks when we don't have to? And her response was, I'm not a doctor. Are you a doctor?
Starting point is 00:17:00 You're not a doctor. I'm not a doctor. And I'm like, Jen, like, wow, this one's really easy. You just say airplanes are smaller with recirculated air yeah i was like you couldn't even just say that to peter ducey he's like wow she was not good at this there were a couple other things that came out and she was bad but the interesting thing here i suppose is that she's she's reportedly going to msnbc so here she is it's it's during a taping of uh pod save america oh yeah she was asked if mr ducey was a SOB or if he just acted like one on TV.
Starting point is 00:17:27 She said he works for a network that provides people with questions that nothing personal to any individual, including Doocy, but might make anyone sound like a stupid SOB. That's really amazing that the only real questions that come out of that briefing. Okay, it's not fair, but 90% of the real questions come from Peter Doocy. There was one guy I saw asking some good questions. okay it's not fair but 90 of the real questions come from peter ducy there there were um there was one guy i saw asking some good questions but i'm sitting there watching this briefing and i'm just like has there ever been a point in our lifetimes where the white house press press briefing revealed any relevant or important information or are we all just recognizing it's a it's it's it's theater and and the but whether it be sean spicer or jenseki they're going to say whatever they have
Starting point is 00:18:08 to do to spin they're not going to tell you the truth for once i'd like someone to come out with like a scotch and it's like you know just donald trump or biden and he's like swirling it and they're like what are we doing in yemen making a lot of money we're we're selling weapons to the saudis you know and they're and they're blowing up villages. But good for the economy. Next question. Syria? Ooh, oil.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Well, we're trying to build a pipeline. What's next? And I'm just like, wow. But they're not going to do that. I would love to see inside of Kayleigh McEnany's big book that she used to carry with her. I would love to see what's in there. Okay, I got to take that back. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:41 She's great. That was epic. She had the big book, and whenever the press would say something, she'd be like, hmm, and she'd reference, you're full of it. Okay, that was actually substantive. Yeah. That maybe wasn't giving us real answers about the administration, but it was exposing to the American people how the media was totally full of it.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Yeah, when this girl, when we talk about how she is good, I think that's come up in the past, that she's good at her job. I'm like, well, you can be good at your job and be evil if your job is evil. Like Joseph Goebbels, Hitler's minister of propaganda, was good. But instead of using the word good, say effective. Don't say he was good. Say he was
Starting point is 00:19:15 effective at his job, which was evil. And so is Jen Psaki sometimes. If she's lying to people, that's evil. You could say she's doing a public good by lying to people because some of the information is too dangerous. The CIA is a secretive organization on purpose. But I don't think that's, I don't know. What do you think about it?
Starting point is 00:19:32 If there is any man on the planet who is the easiest to take out of context and make a montage of just horrifying things. Yes. Thank you, Tim. You recognize my greatness. You need your own Jen Psaki. Thanks, dog. You need to hire you. You need your own Jen Psaki. Thanks, dog.
Starting point is 00:19:45 I am my own Jen Psaki. No, no, but the issue is, you know, and Ian made a good point just now that Goebbels, Joseph Goebbels or something like that. He was effective and it was terrifying. But when you say that when he was good at his job and he was evil. No, no, no. He said he was good. Yeah, but I kind of got diverted the conversation. And I'm like, you got to make sure you finish that thought.
Starting point is 00:20:08 You got to clear that up. He was effective. So were the Nazis and what they were trying to accomplish, but they weren't good. And so that's, so you can look at what Jen's doing. I mean, she's, now she's just bad at her job and also doing, I don't know if I want to claim she's doing evil, but I want to, I want to have hope for the American government. But sometimes I think like a little transparency goes a long way. They're checked out, I think.
Starting point is 00:20:28 They're all evil. I mean, they've been forcing masks on little kids in airplanes, kicking families off because a two-year-old won't wear their mask. Child suicide rates are through the roof right now. Drug addiction is up through the roof. Everyone who pushes this is evil. I'm totally fine with using that word. They're good at being evil, I guess guess or effective at being evil i agree and i want to elaborate on that when you have a machine that says two-year-olds must wear masks yeah and we're like okay we get it but then you get these videos like even people willing to be like we want to do
Starting point is 00:21:00 we want to be peaceful we don't want want confrontation. You get these videos where the baby, they put the mask on the baby and the baby takes it off at like literal baby. And then they're like off the plane. And I'm like, dude, when you have become this machine that doesn't care about people, you have become evil. And I've talked about it before. I can't stand what has become of the U S court system. It's been this way to varying degrees, but it's getting worse in that I get pulled over once. I wasn't speeding. Cop walks up to me with a ticket and he says,
Starting point is 00:21:32 sign there. And I was like, I wasn't speeding. He goes, I don't care. Tell it to a judge. And I was like, now I gotta take off work to go to a judge. I go to the judge. He goes, I don't care. Cop said you were speeding.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Pay the fine or fight it. And I'm like, okay. We've become extremely rigid because we don't know or care about each other. And this is one of the big challenges. The way we use what, you know, in this country is founded. We had 2 million people. You didn't have police. You had local militia. So if somebody stole something, it's like round up the boys. We're going to go, we're going to go catch that guy who stole something. And then you'd have to go to the courts and the courts were part of the community. Everybody knew each other, and they'd all talk it out.
Starting point is 00:22:09 And it's like, that guy who stole it, that's John's son. And it's like, oh, man, John, what do you got to say for your kid? And then they talk about it. Now it's like, I don't know who this guy is. I don't even know what his name is. Now there's so many people, and it's so dense. We've just become rigid and mechanized almost. I see ups and downs to both because if you know the judge and then you commit a crime
Starting point is 00:22:28 and the judge is like, I know him, just let him off. That's also bad. But if the judge has no idea who you are and they don't take your humanity into account at all, then that's also kind of bad. I agree. But I think of it like this still exists in small town America where if you live in a small town and you're speeding let's say a 16 70 year old kid speeding and the the deputy pulls him over he already knows who it is so he's not
Starting point is 00:22:51 worried about getting shot or anything and he walks up and he's like jimmy why speeding and he's like i'm sorry dan and he's like i'm gonna see your dad at the bar later today and i'm gonna tell him your speed and he's like please don't and he's like i'm let you off with a warning but i'm telling your dad like that's way more effective social repercussions as opposed to like pay the 35 bucks or pay the 50 bucks for a lot of people that 50 bucks is devastating but they're like i don't care you know so what i'll i'll not pay the ticket or i'll fight it or whatever having that personal connection i think is good because it holds people to account because they're scared of people they know and love getting mad at them. I think you're right about that.
Starting point is 00:23:26 And there's also just that there's too darn many laws. Oh, yeah. So we've got so many people going through the system all the time. It almost has to be mechanical and expedited. You really can't add the human element in if you've got – let's say you're a judge and you've got a judge on 50 cases in a day or whatever. How serious can you take the individual in each of those? I mean there's only so 50 cases in a day or whatever how serious can you take the individual on each of those i mean there's only so many minutes in a day yeah they're they're gonna especially not even just judges but prosecutors they're only going to see you as a number or as
Starting point is 00:23:53 a way to advance their career and it's almost not even like i'd like to say it's on them but a career-oriented person who goes into a field like that they're going to be predisposed to looking at people that way and that's just how just how they've chosen to get ahead with their career. They just happen to take a career that puts other people's lives in the balance each and every day. Yeah. Then you have to ask yourself why they chose that job. And that's a whole other discussion.
Starting point is 00:24:16 I pulled up just like weird laws. One of them is like bingo games can't last more than five hours in North Carolina. You can't sniff glue with the intent to get high from it in Indiana. What? But you can sniff it. Can't have sex with living fish in Minnesota. Oh, okay. I might actually support that one.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Yeah. That's not a weird law. That's a good one. That's not the word living. It's a weird law, right? There was like a song where they referenced that, and I was like, that can't be real, can it? And then I don't know if they've since repealed that just to say any fish perhaps but yes that
Starting point is 00:24:49 was uh that was a thing this is a great metaphor talking about the machine we were talking last night about how machines are very dangerous and we've kind of become enslaved to them they're very intelligent and we can build their intelligence but they have no emotion humans have emotion that's why we enslave the machine to work for us and to outsource our intelligence. At what level does a society become a machine? Like a small town, it's all about emotion, who you know, your kids, their kids. Then all of a sudden, at some point, it's like just fill out the paperwork. You don't even have to look at the guy's face. Like what, 60,000 people?
Starting point is 00:25:19 1,600 people? Remember that movie Office Space? When they take the printer out and beat the tar out of it or whatever. You are the printer. Oh, that's the tech. That's the technocratic dream. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:32 I mean, well, I mean, I just think that, uh, fundamentally that movie is about being caught up in a mindless numbing job. That's functioning a lot like a bureaucracy and every level of justice system is a mindless numbing bureaucracy so when you go in there you're the printer man and printers are
Starting point is 00:25:51 still worthy of that like we have a printer here that's just they're all awful it's the only technology that hasn't expanded at all every printer is still a hassle to use all the time did you guys ever have that black printer ink explode on you when you're trying to change it it's crazy. There's like a rule against making them better. They're like, it has to be a hassle. And it's just nobody wants to create a better printer. I agree.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Maybe lasers. Maybe we can just have lasers do a back image on a paper or something. It's probably already created. Yo, let's talk about Alex Jones. Oh, yeah. We got this story from TimCast.com. Update. Alex Jones disputes widespread claims that InfoWars is filing bankruptcy. Quote, we are filing a Chapter 11 reorganization so that the federal government can come in and look at our books, Jones said. Now that the fair way to phrase it is that he's disputing the idea that they're broke.
Starting point is 00:26:52 He says, quote, I am not filing bankruptcy. InfoWars is not filing bankruptcy. We are filing a Chapter 11 reorganization so that the federal government can come in and look at our books to see that we do not have $16 million in a secret bank account. We do not have $16 million in a secret bank account. We do not have $5 million even. We have about $3 million that is necessary in order to operate. We are what the mainstream media truly fears. Honest, independent media, said Jones. This filing is strategic to allow me to pay my creditors and remain transparent. That is a form of bankruptcy. I think, however, the media is trying to frame it like they're broke and destitute.
Starting point is 00:27:26 And most people think bankruptcy means you're out of money. I'll give you an example. I searched Chapter 11 bankruptcy. And one of the first news articles came up from NBC. Alex Jones Infowars files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. It's a form of protection. Then I click on the article. The title's been changed.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Alex Jones' Infowars files for bankruptcy following Sandy Hook lawsuits. So it's like they printed the article as it was really happening, and then they're like, not scandalous enough. Let's make him look bad. Bring up Sandy Hook. Let's get him. No, they wanted buzz terms so that it would get more clicks. That's what they do. And there's something they do at news organizations, media outlets called A-B testing, where they actually, this is fascinating, they can publish an article with multiple headlines in different regions to see which one does better in real time and
Starting point is 00:28:09 then switch it all out. Not only that, but a headline, newspapers do this too. This is the crazy thing. You look at like New York Times. I don't know if the New York Times does it, but you'll look at like the California edition versus the Texas edition versus the Utah edition, and they'll use different headlines to sell papers because they know. I think Time Magazine actually made a different person of the year for different countries,
Starting point is 00:28:29 I think, at some point. You guys remember that? No, I don't know. I'll look into that as we're talking. And that's why they don't like Alex Jones. I'm going to be honest. If he is going bankrupt, I get it because everything he talked about for the last 20 years happened.
Starting point is 00:28:42 So it's like nothing to ramble about because people are like, man we do have that right people really are you know the frogs really are well so the frogs thing was funny i was on uh first let me just say when it comes to alex he he reads the news a lot and then he talks all about this and sometimes he'll find something and take it in the wrong direction so that's why when he gets things right, we don't believe it. We're like, there's no way that's true. Like when he was here and he was like, we're eating cloned beef. And I was like, no, we're not. He's like, Google it.
Starting point is 00:29:12 And I did. And it's like, we're actually eating. OK, wow. I didn't believe him. So there's a lot of crazy things you think are crazy. Turns out he was right. But I will say he's absolutely wrong to talk about Sandy Hook the way he did. And this is, I would say, look, if you defame someone, you get held to account. When
Starting point is 00:29:31 the big media companies went after the Covington kids, well, they get sued and they're going to pay out their settlement. Good. Alex Jones should not have been talking about private individuals making accusations about him like this. He did not have the proof to make these claims. Yeah. And I look at Alex Jones as like a pro-wrestling of media, just pure entertainment. I find him entertaining. I mean, I don't watch his show, but I watch it pretty much whenever he goes on something like your show
Starting point is 00:29:56 or Rogan or something. So I can see how he could slip into this, but you're totally right, especially once you start going after the parents of a dead child. You of deserve what you get at that point yep yep he's been pretty transparent about that he was wrong that's something if he if he's still holding on like oh no no no then i'd be like you know what i don't even want this guy but the fact that he's open and like yeah i screwed up big time and he's paying his dues that's the first step so look he said he was wrong he apologized he offered to settle 120K to each of the families. And they said something like the settlement offer was an attempt to avoid his public reckoning.
Starting point is 00:30:31 And I'm like, is that what this is about? Because if he already admitted he's wrong and apologized and then offered to pay you out, I think you've won. Like, what do you want? Well, they want a perp walk. They want a public event. And I'm like, I don't know. I kind of feel like CNN settled and I'm satisfied. Like I don't like CNN.
Starting point is 00:30:48 I'm never going to like them. But they lose. They go to the – the coming-of-age kids are like, we lose. When that happened, we were all like, yeah. Like there we go. We move on. The best thing that came out of this is that he uses research now. Now when he's working, he has like 16 papers at him.
Starting point is 00:31:00 When he comes on the show, he has a bunch of documents ready to go. He doesn't stray off his topic. He doesn't stray off his research unless you want to have fun with him but he came here and he's like i got all the i got all the research the proof and he hands it to me and it was just info wars yeah i was like dude this is you you know i went to sandy i actually went up there that day i was in uh connecticut working with mines and the shooting happened and they were like you want to go cover this so i was like yeah i guess so i don't you know so i drove up there and uh man it was somber this is all anecdotal it doesn't prove or disprove i mean obviously it was a real thing at this point but
Starting point is 00:31:32 i tried to interview people no one wanted to talk well they had the media across the street you could see the fire trucks i mean it was really really why would anyone want to talk about that yeah we just uh we did a story the other day covering like a documentary filmmaker who's covering Astroworld, the tragedy at Astroworld. He's like, I am a victim-driven documentary filmmaker who goes around and covers various tragedies like this. And one of the issues that the dude has is that he has to go and he tries to get interviews with people. And a lot of times he'll push really heavily with these victims' families to try and get them to talk on record. And that comes off. Some might want to have that discussion, but other ones have no interest in it.
Starting point is 00:32:14 And a good documentary filmmaker, unfortunately, given what he chose for a profession, is going to have to push back if he wants to get the story, but he's just not taking a cue from the fact that he's using such heavy material to do that, and that could be seen as something like this here. So I want to dig into this Infowars claim about this hidden money, right? So Alex is saying the reorganization is so that the feds can see they don't have $16 million in a secret bank account. I don't know if that's what's being argued. There's a new lawsuit, and maybe I'm wrong. Let me see if we can
Starting point is 00:32:46 pull this up. A newly filed lawsuit alleges that, let me read this. They say, after Alex Jones was sued for claiming what he did about Sandy Hook, the conspiracy theorist conspired to divert his assets to shell companies owned by insiders like his parents, his children, and himself, reads the lawsuit, which was filed in Austin, Texas by some of the families. So they're not saying he has a secret bank account. They're saying that he immediately started doing deals, funneling this money away. I don't know how you win a lawsuit like that, to be completely honest. Because like, you know, you can sue somebody, but if they haven't lost or owe you anything, they can spend the money however they want. You don't get to just say you're not allowed to spend money anymore because I'm suing you.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Imagine if that's how things worked. It's like, I don't want Disney to make a movie, so I'll sue them, and now they can't spend any money. No, that's ridiculous. They started the process of going after Alex. Maybe at that point he said, all right, you know, I'm going to do a bunch of deals to pull all this money out of the company, that way it'll be with people i know and i can file bankruptcy maybe but what are you gonna do what are you gonna do you didn't win the lawsuit then they do how much money does he have well there you go now and going forward in the future you have to pay you back but that money's gone so info wars is getting sued not alex jones is that
Starting point is 00:33:57 right i don't know for sure exactly how they structured the lawsuit i know that three companies that uh iw health prison planet and info wars have filed for I know that three companies that are IW Health, Prison Planet, and InfoWars have filed for Chapter 11. That's what's been reported. So I think they may be going after him and his companies or something.
Starting point is 00:34:14 It's really interesting how this stuff works out. So, you know, typically, I think people have been suing the individuals and the businesses. Yeah, so when journalists do things like, you know, the reporter is on the line and the company is on the line for publishing it. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Yeah. So the reporter isn't allowed protections. I'm just curious about that. The reporter isn't allowed protections just because they're working for the company. They're still responsible in addition to the... You're the one who said it. Yeah. And the company is the one who amplified it. So now... But you know what, man? You can sue a ham sandwich. It doesn't okay you're the one who said it and the company's the one who amplified it so now but you know what man you can sue a ham sandwich doesn't mean you're gonna win
Starting point is 00:34:49 we'll see how this plays out i suppose the narrative is that the lawsuit is to to silence a prominent influential person on the right and that's why they're not they're not satisfied with the settlement offer yeah they don't want the settlement offer. They want him to come out as the bad guy. Like you said, perp walk, they want humiliation. They want him to look bad, not just pay out for what he did, and that's the difference between actually wanting justice and actually wanting someone to pay, and I think those aren't necessarily always the same thing.
Starting point is 00:35:19 I wonder, though, at this point, you know, Alex has said that they submitted their documents, and the courts were like, nope, you didn't give us your documents and he's like what do you mean i gave you everything like no you didn't and he's like but we did and i actually uh talked with him and his lawyer and his lawyer was like we gave them everything they are just saying we didn't and they put us in default and it's like what do we give them if we don't have anything else to give them it's like it's like when you're being interrogated by someone like tell us where the gold is like i don't know yes you do and they're beating you like what do you
Starting point is 00:35:46 do if you don't know just lie i guess so they're saying they got nothing left to give but they're being you know put in default so they can't what are they supposed to do at this point wasn't there a conspiracy theory for a long time that alex jones was actually a cia asset and that he was being used by the cia there's there's always that conspiracy theory so at least we can put that to bed. Yeah, there you go. Or it's just a, you know, they're trying to pull him out. Clever.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Now it's like, we got to get Alex out of there, man. And so like, here's how we're going to do it. And you know, Alex is like, I'm quitting, I resign. I like the idea of like him being reassigned by the CIA to like the Brejkovic, like a foreign country,
Starting point is 00:36:22 like a station chief in some like really far away place because they can't use them here anymore. I'm good at what I do. I kind of feel like there's powerful interests at play in a lot of these suits that we've been seeing. It started with Gawker, right? Peter Thiel funds this lawsuit against Gawker and blows it up basically. That was the Hulk Hogan one? Yeah, Hulk Hogan. And now it's
Starting point is 00:36:45 like this is this is how this is lawfare it's how it works i'm kind of just like alex jones is alex jones everything else doesn't matter he could do his show on a cell phone he could be like okay you know what fine shut her down start a new company and then just talk into a camera what are they going to do how much you think i mean you're in a position to answer this how much you think being removed from twitter and youtube and those other platforms is affecting his business i think it probably knocked him down you know the majority of the money was making but here's people should understand alex jones got started on i think public access tv and then he made internet video documentaries, and I think he was selling them.
Starting point is 00:37:27 All I know is people were sharing them for free. And then he launched his website. Before YouTube and social media existed, he was well off and running this big company. Then you get YouTube, you get Twitter, you get Facebook, and he gets even bigger. He loses all of that. He's actually still doing better than he was before social media because he created band dot video. He's got his own video player.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Now he gets hundreds of thousands of views. Still people like you can't take away that level of fame from somebody. So that's why I'm saying even if they destroyed all of his companies, all he's got to do is strap up, strap on a loincloth and go in the woods with a cell phone and people are going to want to watch. I would subscribe to that, by the way. Yes. I mean, I mean, you are going to want to watch it. I would subscribe to that, by the way. Yes. I mean, honestly.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Me and Ian are going to watch that together. Yeah. Alex Jones, Jungle Man. And he's like, I'm surviving today, people. This is how you live with the governments on your back. I mean, actually, it would be a really great show. It would be incredible. Incredible.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Alex, let's do a documentary. That would be incredible. Alex Jones. Or a short film or something. I don't know, though, man. You know, now with the Twitter stuff is interesting because it looks like what's, you know, Elon Musk trying to buy Twitter. It's just powerful interest trying to block people who are challenging the system or these conversations. It just looks like there's evil power at play trying to control, manipulate.
Starting point is 00:38:43 People have been talking about parallel systems for a long time parallel economies and all this and this move with elon musk and there's been some speculation that maybe peter till will get involved and some other of elon's friends billionaire like sort of investors would get involved to me it's the first step in an actual uh like a sort of a parallel cathedral element you know or a competing cathedral element you know to attack the actual system that it's sort of as feels oppressive as the everyman so I'm kind of like Ford I know some people have been like well you're just cheering on you know your own right wing Caesar type character whatever not my first of all I don't think the guy's right winning at
Starting point is 00:39:23 all but second of all, yeah, for sure. I totally am. You know, like I will take anybody who wants to win at this point. I get, I get kind of like, I, I see the pushback he's getting.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Okay. So there's a couple of ways to go at it. You can try and reverse engineer the software, get a bunch of developers together that want to work on like a free software system and try and rebuild what's already been built, which takes forever and so many hours of labor for development labor. Or you can come from the top, buy the organization, and then free the software code that way. But we see with Elon, it's like the Saudi prince is tweeting out he doesn't want to
Starting point is 00:39:54 let go of his power. These people, BlackRock, I think, or is it Vanguard? I think Vanguard's in kind of hard. They don't want to give up. So it's challenging to take it from the top when you're using their money, the fiat, because they control the fiat. And I say they. It's so vague. But it's the Federal Reserve and these giant megacorps that get first dibs on all the money when they loan it out.
Starting point is 00:40:14 You want to make a guess, Ian, as to who is the largest institutional investor in Tesla? Oh, I saw you tweeted that earlier, so I can't. But what about you, Brett? I think we talked about it earlier as well. What do you guys think? Put it in the super chats. You'll find out later. I just said it's Vanguard.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Vanguard. Vanguard, then Capital something, then I think BlackRock, and then I think it's State Street Global Advisors. I swear, this is the problem with going public, man. You can't stop it. Once you get in that pool, the big fish come and that's that. I really do love how BlackRock is just a really, really evil corporation Once you get in that pool, the big fish come and that's that. I really do love how Blackrock is just a really, really evil corporation-sounding name.
Starting point is 00:40:51 It's my favorite part about it. It's like, what was the other one we were talking about earlier? Blackwater. Blackstone? No, the private mercenary group from... Oh, Blackwater, yeah. They changed their name. But I love these. It's just so evil supervillain sounding.
Starting point is 00:41:05 It's great. Let's talk about DeSantis and see where we're headed in this country. DeSantis defends math textbook rejection as Dems seek proof of critical race theory lessons. Florida Education Department officials have not yet provided examples from the textbooks deemed impermissible, but on Monday released the list of books that failed to make the cut. So apparently DeSantis defended it. We want kids to learn to think so they get the right answer, DeSantis told reporters.
Starting point is 00:41:33 The Florida Department of Education on Friday rejected some 54 math books from state classrooms, a move that drew national attention when DeSantis claimed the proposals from publishing companies contained lessons on indoctrinating concepts like race essentialism. The move was just the latest example of Republicans, including DeSantis claimed that proposals from publishing companies contained lessons on indoctrinated concepts like race essentialism, the move was just the latest example of Republicans, including DeSantis, scrutinizing what students are learning, blah, blah. Okay, here's the question. If the math books don't have critical race theory in them, why are they bent out of shape? They're getting removed. If it's just a math book where it's like 2 plus 2 is 4, then why would they be mad about that?
Starting point is 00:42:02 They'd be like, oh, I guess, do we still have a math book that says 2 plus 2 equals 4? Then why would they be mad about that? They'd be like, oh, I guess do we still have a math book that says 2 plus 2 equals 4? Then why do we care if you remove that one? This is really interesting because it is possible that they're not actually teaching critical race theory. And what they're doing is teaching a form of praxis, which is where critical theory is
Starting point is 00:42:20 in everything. It doesn't have to be explicit. It underlies everything. I've seen some of these math problems. I think it was Matt Walsh earlier today who was reading some of these questions about Maya Angelou and all the stuff that went on in her life. All this racism she stood up to. It's a math problem.
Starting point is 00:42:36 You're supposed to be solving X and Y and A and B and all this stuff. But they're rolling into it all these ideas so that they can say, we're not teaching critical race theory. This is practice. We've talked about this before. This is critical race applied principles.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Right. So an example would be those old math problems where it's like a train leaves Detroit traveling 500 miles an hour and a train leaves Pittsburgh traveling at 50 miles an hour and blah, blah, blah. And then that's a math problem. What they're doing in these is they're like, Johnny is a young white man who's 15 years old, and he gets stopped by the police three times in one month. But Jerome is a young black man who gets stopped by the police 2,000 times in one month. What percentage of stops were, and then you're like, okay, we get it. That's what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:43:19 I honestly think, if anything, it doesn't go far enough. We, as far as DeSantis' move here, I had to go pick up one of my kids. I have one kid in public school, and the rest of mine are homeschooled. But I had to go pick her up. And there was a class. The kids must have been maybe seven years old. And all across the wall is rainbow flags and trans flag. Now, nothing said you know anything
Starting point is 00:43:47 about but but the coloring is all the right coloring you know and there's like little sneaky words you know like sharing is caring like care bearers type stuff and this isn't a tiny town in in idaho in the mountains of idaho i mean tiny that's so it's everywhere and it's it's like being pumped into these kids brains i actually think like that's why colors are so important you know kids like latch on to that stuff and it's very visually appealing for them so when it's broadcast in their faces all the time you don't have to have an explicit message in there the message is like in the image i still remember an image like in fourth grade on my wall of a horn, like a trumpet playing music, and it showed the sound waves coming out like this, like round.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Sorry if you're listening, you're not able to see. But then the teacher came in one day and was like, actually, the sound waves are actually like this. And they changed the image to a sine wave. And that sticks with me to today. That was like 35 years ago or something crazy. Imagery is one of the most powerful ways to teach a child anything. Sound, imagery, smell, those kind of things.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Yeah, sensory stuff. There are a bunch of these videos that are coming out and it's starting to expose what these teachers are doing. One of them is the, like a gender flow chart almost. And there's,
Starting point is 00:44:58 it's from Libs of TikTok, I saw this, where the teacher's like, you start with your sexuality and then you can go as far as you want towards male or female. And then you come down to your identity. And it can be different. And it's like, it's not.
Starting point is 00:45:13 The thing is, if you tell a kid, trans people exist. Gay people exist. It's like, okay, I get it. You're telling them they exist. If you give them a card and tell them to draw on a scale where they are, now you're actually not just telling them exist. Now you're doing some kind of litmus test for them and their identity. And what happens then if these kids feel like they're not going to fit in if they go with the bland gray flag? The CIS flag they've been showing kids is just black and white. So why would a kid pick that one?
Starting point is 00:45:45 Why would the kid want to be boring? No, you can be fun and exciting. Here, do these things. And so these kids don't understand oppression. They don't understand civil rights. These are young kids between five years old and nine years old. They're being told just to draw how they feel, and they're like, whatever. Don't you think they're going after them because at that age, they don't understand sexuality at all they don't have you know they're not they're
Starting point is 00:46:08 prepubescent and all this so if you go after them then and you like start talking to them about sexual orientation of course like johnny and jack are going to say that they like each other more because girls are stupid and icky or whatever so then when they do start to develop actual hormones and feelings you're just like adding layers of confusion because now they're getting all the, you know, testosterone slowing. They're like, well, I thought I liked, you know, Jack, it turns out maybe chills. All right. You know, I've, I've heard some horror stories from, is there coming out of conservative states where like someone's kid said that they thought they were pan and their parent was like, why do
Starting point is 00:46:42 you think you're pan? And they're like, cause I like everybody. And they're like and their parent was like why do you think you're pan and they're like because i like everybody and they're like you you like everybody that means you want to kiss them and and their daughter was like no she's friendly yeah i just mean like i want to be friends with them and they're like that's not what that means they're lying to those kids i'm not saying it's every classroom but certainly that is happening because these kids don't know what that means and there's no way it gets to that level of teaching that they don't know that they're confusing them. And that's the worst part about it is that it's being obfuscated intentionally, partially because they know the kids aren't old enough to really process what that means.
Starting point is 00:47:14 And partially just everything that you don't say is every bit as important as what you choose to say and what you leave out says almost more about it than what you put in. And that's terrifying to me. Yeah. Well, I think reality is is yeah these these teachers are indoctrinating kids and then the media is doing everything in its power to to push back so ibram x candy recently came out and said that oh no they're grooming kids to be white supremacists and it's like wow it's working if he's got to come out and try and do that, the messaging has worked. You've got Kendi trying to retake the word groomer because they're grooming kids. It ain't going to work, buddy.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Did you cover the first grade teacher who told the first grade class that when babies are born, the doctor just guesses whether it's a boy or a girl? Oh, yeah. I think we talked about that. Did you talk about that? I don't remember that. They just guess. The doctor just guesses. That's a boy or a girl oh yeah i think we talked about that i don't remember that they just guess they just that he's just told because there's doctors guesses that's what happens there's another video from libs of tiktok where the doctor's basically saying that where it's like it's typically based on their their you know their their genetics their genitals but usually it's just their genitals and sometimes they're wrong it's like well sometimes as in like
Starting point is 00:48:20 you know 0.0707% of the time. But that's why ethics is so important. Science can only get you so far. You can only look at pieces and parts and decide your final answer. But I mean, and that's, I think maybe the conversation about ethics and emotions has gone kind of too far in one direction where it's like, if you feel like you're a different sex, then that's reality because we have not been having much talk about emotion. So this is like the hammer's coming swinging back.
Starting point is 00:48:49 I feel like society's really detached from its emotional self. How often do you see people cry? How often do you see people publicly acknowledging their suffering? Well, I mean, kids that used to have, even though they weren't living on a farm or whatever, they used to know people that were farmers. They had a grandfather that was a farmer or an uncle or whatever. And so they were involved with animal husbandry and that stuff at a younger age. And you don't have to explain,
Starting point is 00:49:18 like kids, ranch kids don't get birds and the bees talks because they've been breeding animals, you know, being, they've been around animals you know being they've been around animals who are being bred since they were very very young so there's an implicit understanding there like dad doesn't have to sit down and say you know when a mama bee loves a
Starting point is 00:49:34 daddy bee you know it's like they've been seeing stud horses and mares out in the pasture chickens chickens yeah yeah like we got we got chicken city and i was thinking about this too um a lot of people talk about how their kids will watch chicken city their dogs and their cats obviously watch it too but chicken city has become this massive success thank you everybody but no in all seriousness the uh you know you'll get kids watching with their parents and they'll be like i want to feed the chickens and so they'll put the five bucks in the food comes down and then you'll see the rooster mount the hen and do his rooster business. Okay, I get to explain that. Well, I mean, this chicken city
Starting point is 00:50:08 is overtly over-the-top family friendly. Chickens do these things. Like if you want to teach your kids about farms and petting zoos, you're going to watch that stuff happen. Now, maybe if your kid's never been exposed to that, you're going to have to have that conversation. But to your point,
Starting point is 00:50:20 I was thinking about this earlier. I was like, kid who grows up on a goat farm is never going to have that question because they're like little kid watching the goats do their thing
Starting point is 00:50:29 you know what I mean yeah it's just totally true and the chicken thing might be a little bit hard because then it's like wait so we're eating chicken babies
Starting point is 00:50:37 that's what we're eating a lot of questions oh wow yeah yep yep every day those eggs come out it's not necessarily a baby yeah right but you don't eat the chicks.
Starting point is 00:50:45 You got to wait for them to grow. That's where you get the meat. Do you guys have a farm? Yeah. Did you explain to your kids about like we're raising the animals, we're going to eat the animals or anything like that? Oh, I mean, no. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:56 It just kind of happens. In fact, my little sister, when she was probably 10 years old or so, maybe she was younger than that, 7 or 8 years old anyway, she come home from school and got off the school bus and i was out feeding her something and i came around and she and uh i just come in the back door and i hear her yell hey mom i'm hungry i want to eat bob it was this it was this steer that she'd named bob you know and she loved the steer or whatever but she's like whatever it's food food he's cute and everything but we're gonna eat him so uh not not it's another one of those things just kind of
Starting point is 00:51:29 implicit i don't think imagine being bob yeah right i know that name do they do they like uh argue against naming them for that reason no i'm i mean uh my stepfather used to hate it but i like for me personally it doesn't bother me at all. Like yesterday I was at my in-laws getting ready to come, well, Easter and then getting ready to come out here. And as soon as I left, we had one of our heifers calved, you know, and my wife comes home. She's like, oh, look at it. It's so cute. You know, I mean, thank goodness I didn't have to pull it or anything. But, you know, she's talking about how cute these little Angus calves are or whatever.
Starting point is 00:52:02 And I'm like, yeah, I get it. And then, you know, the kids are hearing her talk like that but they never they never have a problem you know eating like they know it's a cow yeah you're raised from the beginning with that you would just know from the tiniest age yeah i think you're just closer to it or something this is interesting because we we've asked many times like who would who is going to survive better in the apocalypse or who is more likely to survive a conservative rural or urban liberal and a lot it's like no one thinks the urban liberals are going to make it but this is a really good point we don't we've not brought up it's that people who grow up in rural areas are more likely to have been exposed at a young age
Starting point is 00:52:36 to slaughtering a pig or a chicken to eat like you know i want to eat bob people in the city are going to be like i have to do what with the knife? And then what do I do with those things? They're not going to want to do it. They want to walk into a supermarket where there's just pink slime. And they can just, you know, cook it and eat it. We had a farm. My grandpa's cousin had a farm, northeast Ohio.
Starting point is 00:52:59 We would go out there, Alvin, Uncle Alvin, and Cousin Alvin. And then you see the thing hanging upside down like the cattle thing just all the blood all the skin ripped off and it's like wow wow and they i don't think i ever watched him butcher it up and i never saw him kill it i did see my dad kill some kill a groundhog and that was well he he family friendly he wounded the groundhog and it escaped and i just saw the trail of blood and it was really disturbing i thought why why hunt if you're not gonna like why would you destroy houses yeah i you know there's always a reason about it but it was pretty tragic to see it get wounded and get away because i was
Starting point is 00:53:33 like what's gonna happen he was like well it's gonna die in a hole somewhere get eaten or dino yeah the thing about groundhogs is that they knock trees down they can destroy houses they can destroy foundations so i was reading about it and apparently there are some places where if you actually catch the groundhog, you have to kill it. Interesting. Because you can be liable for the damage it can cause after you've caught it. I did not know that. Crazy, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Well, imagine you catch it, and you're like, oh, I don't want to hurt the little thing. So you just bring it to the edge of your property and let it go and it goes to your neighbor's house and knocks a tree down. They're going to be like, you released that thing on me. Yeah, someone mentioned that about mice. They're like, if you don't do something with them, they will come back and they'll get worse. And I was going to say that I think that maybe one of the best things about living on a ranch is that you can teach your kids about the circle of life.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Like if something does crawl in a hole and die, then other things come along and eat it. It becomes part of the soil. It's all part of like growing plants and all this really, it's actually really a neat cycle that i think kids would benefit from knowing about these things are hard because we have led such like kind of privileged and cushioned lives we can go to the store and get these little pink things that are they're chicken where did it come from we don't know milk grows on the shelves it's absolute
Starting point is 00:54:37 insanity we have no connection to the things we eat it's a good opportunity to teach kids about that kind of cycle really important would you butcher at the farm? Yeah, I'd butcher all our stuff. Yeah, I do my own butchering. Yeah, in fact, this discussion made me think of my friend Shanna. She always says that cows are friends and steers are food, which is true. Cows have more babies and you eat the steers and keep your replacement heifers and sell some off. So anyway, so there is kind of a little bit of bifurcation that's worth talking about. Like the cows themselves are actually in a – occupy a different place.
Starting point is 00:55:11 It's because you keep them comfortable so they have healthy babies and they produce good milk. Well, I mean you want to keep them all comfortable ideally because you want as much pound on the animal as you can when you go to butcher. And if they're stressed out, the meat can be bad, right? Yeah. I mean really stress is more just like they'll have a harder time gaining weight. At least that's been... Now, like if you're hunting, yeah, if you wound something,
Starting point is 00:55:35 it's going to get a hit of neuroepinephrine and then your meat is going to be more tense and tougher. Oh, wow. So when you're hunting, want it you want the animal to go to be like in the head just down yeah well yeah killed as quickly as possible like and then there are some arguments people will make that uh like an arrow through and i've seen it a bunch of times and an arrow through the actual like boiler room with the vitals,
Starting point is 00:56:06 the animal almost, I mean, they'll run off, but you can tell that they have no idea what happened. You know, they're just like, then they just die. Oh, wow. Oh, okay, so then they don't get the... There's not a big loud sound associated with it. It's just a sharp pain, and then they're done. That's because it's an arrow?
Starting point is 00:56:23 Yeah, a broadhead, you know know it's just a clean cut and the bow doesn't make a lot of noise and so i've heard this argument i don't know how much i don't know how much like bro science is going on there but i mean it's i think it's a it's a viable argument i think so like when when when they realize they're in danger they tense up and then the muscle becomes stiff and hard and then you try to eat it it's like you get it yeah i think the big hit just the big hit of adrenaline yeah you know going through and stiffens them up yeah and then you try to eat it it's like you get it yeah i think the big hit just the big hit of adrenaline yeah you know going through and stiffens up yeah and then you know of course like if you hit something in the guts or whatever then that's a whole nother you kind of see that with factory farming when they lead the cattle into the bolt thing where they're going to put
Starting point is 00:56:57 the bolt in their head and then you watch the one behind it here the one in front of it die and they freak out sure so that's got to be affecting the final meat the meat it's i mean i feel like i'm almost disassociated i don't know i have i'm a weird empathetic creature happy cows man yeah happy cows happy but uh cows aren't aren't raised for beef is it their dairy and then what the steers are the beef cattle uh yeah yeah yeah so cows are kind of yeah cows are the females right and they are going to reproduce you know so you turn your bulls in depending on your setup you turn your bulls in. Depending on your setup, you turn your bulls in. For some people, you leave them in all the time, but you turn your bulls in for X amount of months,
Starting point is 00:57:30 and then you pull your bulls out. And then, like right now at home, most of us are calving or almost done calving, which is just having the babies. And then you'll wean cows and calves later on, and that's when they'll go to auction. How long does it take for a calf to grow up to become either food or – It depends on your setup, whether you're running a cow-calf operation or you're running a feed operation or just buying ballers or steers. It depends on what you're doing, but let's just say just for roundabout,
Starting point is 00:58:04 let's just say eight months-ish, and then you go to auction or keep your replacement heifers. So if I wanted milk, right, and I bought day one, just born calf, how long until it can work with the ball to start producing milk and getting the baby and everything? I see. Usually breed heifers around two years old. Two years. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Wow. Are they able to inbreed, like chickens? Well, I mean, you castrate all the bulls, right? So you just have, oh, I see what you're saying, dad, daughter. Yes, exactly. Yeah, I mean, you try to avoid that where you can, but sure. And some people will line breed. You castrate the bulls?
Starting point is 00:58:44 Well, the bull calves you know so when you don't want them because you only want one to be breeding with them or what yeah well yeah you don't you don't want a nine month old or so bull calf out there breeding your heifers or whatever right right right plus you know just makes better meat so there's like right so there's specific specific bulls will be left not castrated. Right, yeah. You'll pull those out and put them in their own pan, and those are the studs. Yeah, basically, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:12 That's a great name. That was interesting cow talk. Let's go back to school. More cow talk. We got this story from TimCast.com. Former assistant principal at Virginia Elementary School files lawsuit, says critical race theory teachings created really hostile work environment. Really?
Starting point is 00:59:28 Emily Mayes, who worked at Agnor Hurt Elementary School in Charlottesville, says she was subjected to extreme harassment for weeks over her reservations about CRT. The situation escalated for Mayes. She claims when she accidentally used the word colored instead of people of color during a teaching workshop despite apologizing continuously including immediately after the word was uttered she says that for months she was harassed and berated by other staff and that the district failed to intervene one black employee who refused to accept the apology began referring to her as that white racist b wow you know i just gotta say White racist B. Wow. You know, I just got to say, this is a strategy to use. If you work somewhere with any kind of critical race theory stuff, sue them.
Starting point is 01:00:12 That's what you got to do. Because if they're telling you things based on race, like white people, white privilege or whatever, they're in violation of the EEOC and the Civil Rights Act. So you got to sue them. This is the tactic. You got to use it. Check out this other them. This is the tactic. You gotta use it. Check out this other story. We got this one from Fox News. Professor wins lawsuit against university over pronouns.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Students' demand went against my Christian beliefs. The Ohio professor won $400,000 after suing the university over being forced to use students' preferred pronouns. There it is, my friends. You gotta stand up for yourself. That's the difference between the United States and Canada right there. How does the... I still... My favorite part about the pronouns thing There it is, my friends. You gotta stand up for yourself. That's the difference between the United States and Canada right there.
Starting point is 01:00:46 How does the... I still... My favorite part about the pronouns thing is it should very rarely be coming up in person conversation anyways, because most of the time you're not using their pronouns when you're actually talking to them in the room anyways. You're gonna call them by their name or you're gonna refer to them directly.
Starting point is 01:01:02 It's more to control your speech when they're not in the room. Isn't that weird? We did a story on Pop Culture Crisis where we were talking about Demi Lovato, and Demi Lovato has they, them pronouns, and I couldn't do it. I kept screwing it up. Because, like you said earlier, I want to be respectful.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Some people don't like that. I'm like, look, that's what they want. I understand. But I eventually had to give up on the point and come back to it like the next day because I couldn't get it right. I couldn't – I kept screwing it up. So she was controlling – I just see it right there. She. They were controlling my ability to speak on them without even being in the room just by virtue of creating pronouns that are different from the normal
Starting point is 01:01:45 set. So everybody called out Demi Lovato because Demi Lovato says they are daddy's girl in caption of sizzling Instagram portraits after coming out as non-binary and using they, them pronouns. You don't get to choose your pronouns. I'm sorry. I got, look, I try to be nice to everybody. I want to be civil, respectful.
Starting point is 01:02:06 But you can't tell me what words to use. If I want to call Brett brat, he can be like, that's not my name. And I'll be like, too bad. Like, I'm going to say whatever I want. I want now. That's short for bratwurst. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Saying it slightly differently. Instead of Ian, I'm going to call him Ian. Hey, you're not the first. What's he going to do about it? Just laugh. So if I say,'m you know like luke kept calling lydia linda yeah he was on the show rude first of all see well she's offended i am very does that mean i have to take over calling you lydia linda no linda no but like what's what's what's lydia gonna say other than don't call me linda it's like okay linda like what are you what are you
Starting point is 01:02:38 gonna do it's like you can tell them to be fair i think that pronouns are very much a power play because brett's right there is no period of time at which you would say like he when braxton's sitting right there in front of you or when tim's sitting right in front of you it's when they're not even there it's like could you could you imagine having a conversation like that where you know brett brett brett makes a reference to a demi lovato story and then i just look to braxton and i'm like did you hear what he was just saying oh my gosh it's just out of the conversation. I think
Starting point is 01:03:07 it's pretty rude for sure if someone called me by the wrong name to make fun of me I'd be like alright bro take it easy and then if they kept doing it I'd be like I'm not going to interact with you anymore or whatever I had to do. But I understand why but then if I
Starting point is 01:03:23 change my pronoun to a new kind of language or new new kind of thought thing, that's a hard one to get. I don't know. Maybe it's the same kind of thing emotionally for the people that are experiencing this. So I don't know, man. Well, like remember when – was it on here or was it on Rogan when they had Labonte on? And he was talking and I was like, yeah, like I'll call you you by your pronouns but i might just not call you very often to hang out because you're really difficult to be around like i don't mean any disrespect but like if i have to worry about any point in the conversation something like this comes up i'm just i'm just gonna check
Starting point is 01:03:57 out dude i'm just not interested i'm not interested in it yeah the way to put it i mean how mad are you at your dad you know like that's like how much do you need attention yeah i don't think it's that demi lovato said she's daddy's girl yeah she she you know i'm saying she why because she said she's daddy's girl yeah and now i look if she comes out and says that she's non-binary i'm like okay whatever if she comes out and says she's daddy's girl i'm like oh she's a girl again so now she's a she right you can't like so she changed it back so pronoun fluid yeah yeah well yeah yeah she's just she can just be pronoun fluid no you don't think it is the reason why they're going after kids is because little kids are like trying to find their identity
Starting point is 01:04:34 right but the identity is usually something like do i want to be a fireman or do i want to be a carpenter do i want to be a doctor or a nurse or something now they're going to kids and be like i remember when i was little, what's your favorite color? And I was always like, I don't know. Like how do you know what your favorite color is? What does that even mean? And then I would just tell people green because the calendar for March, my birthday, was always green. I was like, green, I guess, because that's the only thing I can kind of think of.
Starting point is 01:04:59 I don't know. I kind of like blue or whatever. So you just pick it. Now you're a little kid and they're like, which pronouns are you? And they're like, I don't know. I kind of like blue or whatever. So you just pick it. Now you're a little kid and they're like, which pronouns are you? And they're like, I don't know. Florbo? I don't know. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Is it New York that recognizes 33 separate genders? 31. 31 separate genders? It's insane. But they legally recognize any and all genders, which means you can make one up on the spot. So what is the point of the 31 if they legally recognize all? Of the 31, they even are redundant. Like female to male is considered a gender in New York, but FTM is also considered a gender even though it means the same thing.
Starting point is 01:05:37 This stuff is so difficult to talk about because I am such a generally respectful and do not want to offend or hurt anyone's feelings. And I know a lot of people – like working here, you kind kind of like a lot of people see that as like a flaw right that you're like you're too weak to to stand up for something but it's like i don't want to offend or upset anybody but some of this stuff is so impossible to process in the moment that if i can't even have a a reasonable conversation with you i don't know how to do this without being offensive and i don't want that so it's like i'm being forced to be offensive but only to them like i'm trying not to be but they're making it about that and that's very very difficult for me to process as somebody who just doesn't want to be on the wrong side of people just for general reasons yeah talking about
Starting point is 01:06:18 someone that's that then you're then you're taking some risk when you're talking to someone it doesn't pronouns are out of the question you don't even use pronouns you're taking some risks When you're talking to someone Pronouns are out of the question You don't even use pronouns You're having a conversation with somebody And anyone can get down with that It doesn't matter how they identify When you start talking about people Then they're like, whoa, if you're going to bring me into this Bring me into it the way I want to be brought into it
Starting point is 01:06:35 And it's like, not in the United States I'm bringing you in because you're part of this We can have that discussion It's purposefully destabilizing It's impossible for a regular person to know what's happening or who you're talking about. So the example I gave like on Twitter was – I can't remember exactly how I wrote it. But I said, Pat and Sam go to see a movie. They got angry because they wanted to see a horror film but they ended up seeing a comedy instead.
Starting point is 01:07:03 And what they really wanted was – and then it's just like what is it that they refer to seeing a comedy instead and what they really wanted was and then it's just like what is that they refer to like which person did what if you said like mike and jane went to a movie she got angry because she wanted to see a comedy film but he wanted to see horror and they ended up seeing horror now you understand the girlfriend is mad she wants to comedy the boyfriend wanted to see horror they were both mad because i didn't i'm seeing anything but if you said sam and pat went to the movies they were mad because they wanted to see a comedy but they saw horror it's like are you like they were both mad which which which person is referred to in the they now to be fair in the context of you know sarah and jane go to the movie and she was mad
Starting point is 01:07:39 you're also like i don't know which person you're referring to because if it's two different genders there you go in which in which case you don't need the person you're referring to because if it's two different genders, there you go. In which case, you don't need the pronouns at all. Sarah and Jane go to the movie. Sarah got mad because she wanted to see a movie, a comedy, but Jane wanted to see horror, and they ended up saying – so you just use the name. In which case, this whole discussion is like – I think you're right though that it's about being purposely destabilizing. As much as it pains me to give him credit, Jesse Kelly calls these guys communists all the time, and I think he's right, at least in orientation and also because it makes him mad to be called communist.
Starting point is 01:08:13 So I think it's good to use. But basically, in a sense, the Lenin model is destabilize, create confusion and chaos, and then come in and be the person that restores order in the way that you want it. And that seems to be the approach. How do they restore order? Who are they looking for? Well, shoot people in the streets. But I'm saying, who are they looking for
Starting point is 01:08:34 that's going to make sense of this? Well, at this stage, I don't think it matters because it's chaos state. Because a lot of these people who shilled for Biden, he doesn't understand the stuff. He doesn't like I would argue that he doesn't really understand any of the stuff that's going on with that type of with that part of the movement. But it's like you said earlier, you think it's about destabilizing. We talked about religion and you said, I think that why does it feel like people are coming more around to religion again?
Starting point is 01:08:59 It's because they're looking for something solid under their feet. And I'm not religious, but I'm one of those people that's like everything feels so up in the air now that you're just looking for something, anything to hold on to that feels like some semblance of the real world and not this postmodern hell that feels like we're in right now. I mentioned that earlier that in the time when you start to lose faith in reality, you start to look for faith in other places. And I see people reverting to religion of the past or to non-binary degenderism or whatever the heck I looked up. There's a meme going around. It says they translated non-binary into Spanish and there's two ways to
Starting point is 01:09:34 translate it. One is the feminine version and one is the masculine version. No binaria, no binario. Perfect. Wow. Well, so let's talk about the return of religion.
Starting point is 01:09:43 I mean, you know, Brett just brought up that things are starting to become more religious. I remember reading about Dave Rubin. Is he now a Christian? I believe so, yeah. Something like that happened. And I find that interesting because a lot of people ragged on him saying like all of a sudden this guy who they say drifted to the right is now – all of a sudden he's a conservative Christian or whatever. And the funny thing is the opposite kind of happens to me because I've like long talked about how I've believed in God since I was like 18.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Like I was – grew up Catholic, then kind of drifted away. But then I was a teenager. So I had this like realization. And now I believe in God, but I don't consider myself like religiously theistic or anything like that, not following – I don't follow scripture or anything like that. I just think there's a God. And instead I get conservatives calling me an atheist. I'm like, what is that all about. I don't follow scripture or anything like that. I just think there's a God. And instead I get conservatives calling me an atheist. I'm like, what is that all about? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Weird. But I do think it's interesting. So I just wanted to dig in on why you guys think religion is making a comeback. Fundamentally, everyone is disoriented or misoriented and is rudderless and unmoored. And we're all feeling it it's the you know the chaos is it's palpable you know and we feel it in our own lives every day and so everyone's looking for a rudder the rest like we're just adrift in the ocean right now and we're looking for something to stick in the waves and try to get back to shore uh religion has
Starting point is 01:11:00 worked for a long time you know christianity is, what, 2,000 years old. Judaism is, what, 5,000 years old or something. That's pretty firm, solid footing. So I think, you know, people are looking that way because it's worked. I mean, look at, like, the Peterson phenomena. Like, he would talk, you know, I've heard him. Yeah, Jordan Peterson, thank you. I've heard him, like, be jokingly referred to as, as like the guy who speaks to kids who didn't have dads i mean maybe there's some truth to that but i think really like he was speaking to a generation that was uh
Starting point is 01:11:36 sort of broken up by new atheism you know like these these christian these younger christian kids or jewish kids or whatever that fell in love with dawkins and hitchens and harris and these kind of guys because they were charismatic and really they're attacking the argument level of like a teenager or whatever but they you know if you don't know if you're not you know well steeped or versed in your faith then it's kind of easy to get you know swayed by someone who's as charismatic as hitchens so that went on for you know a decade or whatever and then these these people that went through that were looking at the society around them and the chaos and disaster that it had become and peterson steps up and in many ways it's kind of like the anti-new atheist he's like making similar arguments
Starting point is 01:12:22 but on the opposite end and then those same kids like, I remember Peterson talking about a bunch of atheists showing up at his, his things and asking him about God. And so I just think that we're looking for, uh, collectively we're looking for some solid footing and religion has persisted. So scientific method kind of turns me off. I know there's real value to the scientific method. It's fantastic for building machines and stuff, but placebo effect is real. No one knows why. They just know it's somewhat effective in studies and trials. That's not scientific method. Can't explain it. So that's not a perfect system. And so I look out. I look elsewhere. What else is there? Quantum physics is fascinating. Religions are fascinating. God is fascinating. But to jump on one seems like a preemptive mistake. So at least that's where I'm at right now. I somewhat agree. I do think the scientific method can eventually understand why the placebo effect happens. I think we just haven't yet. Because if you're going to keep doing testing, you figure out what's going on in the brain or in the body. But I somewhat agree, you know, picking one religion. That's why I consider myself non-theistic in a sense.
Starting point is 01:13:28 I don't follow any scripture or whatever, but I do believe, you know, God exists. And it's because I've met too many people who are like, I know for sure. And here's why. Let me explain it to you. And I'm like, man, you really are convinced. You know a whole lot. You've asked a lot of deep philosophical questions. And here's another guy who says you're wrong, who's also very it has you know so i'm like i don't know i think the one thing i can
Starting point is 01:13:47 agree on is that there's something bigger and greater than all of us but i don't know if like maybe maybe the reality is everybody's looking through the a small lens at the bigger picture of the same thing and you know they're looking through it and they see imagine your look this is big mansion i always use an example as a ballroom inside with tons of people and they're all dancing. And you look through the keyhole and they're like, what do you see? What's inside? And you're like, there's a big woman with a big dress. Then 10 feet down is a guy looking through the same keyhole and he's like – he sees a guy wearing a tuxedo.
Starting point is 01:14:17 No, it's not. It's a guy wearing a tuxedo. And they both start arguing like, oh, no, no, no. I'm seeing this. He's like, he's crazy. Look. And everyone's like, I can see the lady. He's making it up.
Starting point is 01:14:24 It depends on where you're coming from. You see something different, but the reality is the bigger picture on the inside is everybody's getting little pieces of it. You know, you think there's an objective reality? Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 01:14:34 How would you, how would you define it? Yeah. Well, I mean, seriously, I'm so glad he asked you that question. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:42 Well, I mean, oh, Descartes makes me so angry. Well, I mean, oh, Descartes makes me so angry. Yeah, I mean, I see your point. I think that it's, you have to live in the real world at some point. And for me, it's like, that's the table. And let's say I went outside and closed my eyes.
Starting point is 01:15:03 And I didn't even know, I had no idea you were there. It was, it was in the dark. Okay. You knew I was there, but I had no idea that you were there and you threw a snowball and hit me in the side of the face. There is no chance that I could deny the existence of that snowball that I did not know existed before it struck my face. So like, obviously we react with the material world, you know, and I do think it's provable. It's just that you have to set up such bizarre experiments to get there that you get in circles. This is why people often argue about what objective and subjective is. And it's like, you know, you've got the brain in the VAT thought experiment.
Starting point is 01:15:39 Maybe your brain's in a tube and they're poking with electrodes. Maybe we're all in the Matrix. Maybe you at home are the only real person and everyone else is just some kind of video game NPC. Who knows? How do you define objective reality? It's the external things that have a tendency towards being true is the easiest way I can think of it.
Starting point is 01:15:56 Like if I throw a rock at a standard house window, the window will break. Or maybe you'll miss, but we can basically predict what's going to happen. Physics is the most objective reality I can figure at this point sort of so the challenge is some windows are bulletproof and so you can be like i can prove to you objective reality the window will break and you throw it and it bounces off the window and you're like okay i was wrong about that well it doesn't disprove objective reality it just means there's such nuance and subtleties to most things that defining reality, like defining objective reality, is difficult because everyone has a subjective perspective.
Starting point is 01:16:34 I suppose you just look for the things that everyone agrees upon as being true, which is why we had the argument before about universal objective morality, to which I believe there is one. And it's because when we were talking to Jeremy Boring and Michael Knowles, and they were saying, you know, essentially, what's the point of a planet without humans? It's because we are human. We live within a human experience. And the human experience is our existence. Without humans, there's just, you know, there's life, but it's not perceived the way we perceive it. There's no value to it the way we perceive value. It's literally just a rock and water or something. So from the human experience, I look to what is true in every culture to every person. Stepping on a rock hurts, right? So we can see some things are objective,
Starting point is 01:17:22 but it's a gradient. You get to a certain point where you're you're getting into physics even and you might say i believe that there are 13 dimension here's the math to prove it and someone else like you're crazy there's 14 and here's the math to prove it and then you're getting into weird and wacky world stuff because they're both right you know if there's 14 that means there's also 13 there's also 12 well but you get to my point like they'll disagree on the math and ultimately the fundamental nature of the universe. So how could it be objective reality if the human experience denies what is true? I'll tell you objective reality.
Starting point is 01:17:53 I'm going to go to the bathroom. I will see you guys in two minutes and I love you. All right. My point is not that because a bunch of people believe something is true makes it true. It's just that if we can all prove something to a certain degree, and then we can replicate it, we've found our objective, you know, reality to a certain degree. It's never completely possible to know everything.
Starting point is 01:18:16 Why is the objective reality discussion so fascinating? Like, I'm literally asking, like, why do you think it is that we always come back to that when we have these discussions? Why is it that this focus on, like, I was talking to someone earlier about we always talk about common sense not being that common anymore. It seems like people are taking this very large-scale view when we've got plenty of problems in the very, very real world that we're dealing with now. So we have these discussions, and I always find that it ends up distracting from actually solving i'd not say that's not important or that there's not value in the discussion there is but i'm saying that it usually comes up when we're discussing real world issues and these other things so i'm always fascinated how we go back to these kind of more uh larger scale discussions rather than staying on the topics we were actually discussing beforehand well i mean we're talking
Starting point is 01:19:02 about people becoming religious and that was okay so like uh so for me like when i was thinking about religion like as somebody who's not uh not denominational or anything like that but i keep coming back to it recently because of an absence of uh redemption in the world we live in right now there's absolutely like whether we're talking about people who are like strong proponents of cancel culture or if you want to talk about ideological leftists that are pushing these narratives right now they don't really have much of a belief in redemption at all and that's something we went and saw father stew which is like uh like we reviewed it for the channel and i was like i was like this might have been like a six or seven maybe but i gave it like
Starting point is 01:19:38 a nine just because seeing a story that was so heavily focused on the idea of redemption uh even if you exclude all of the religious elements, just that type of story is so missing and so lacking in society today. When you're not allowed to redeem yourself, once you're out, once you're on the outs with the group, you're out forever and you're never allowed back.
Starting point is 01:19:57 That's why they say you can never apologize because if you apologize, you're admitting fault and then you're forever that person. And that sickens me in a lot of ways. I don't like the idea that what you are at one time is who you are forever and i take issue with that and religion takes pains to make that a big part of its uh of its value system and that means a lot to me even if i can't at this time say that i'm denominational yeah but again it goes back to the communism thing they it's not that they want you out as an outcast or whatever forever. They just want you broken.
Starting point is 01:20:28 Submit to the group. Yeah. They just want you broken so that they can mold you or use you or throw you away or whatever. And that is, to your point, the redemption arc that religion allows for is powerful and fundamental. And in some ways kind of what separates us from the animal kingdom, that we allow for things like that. Maybe that's what's driving people back to religion, that they've seen cancel culture, they've seen the woke left, and they've said, I want to be a better person.
Starting point is 01:20:58 I want to be redeemed. I don't want to be like that. And so there's a fundamental, there's a moral structure that says you can be redeemed. You can be forgiven, which is the opposite of the modern wokeness. But let's do this. Let's talk about your book and your story. Do you want to explain what – tell us what your book is and what it's about? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:17 When I was – I joined the military and then I got wounded over in Iraq and it's in 2006. Got busted up pretty good. I broke my left tibia, my left femur in three places, and my left hip in two places, and my right hip in one, and my right femur in two, and my radius and ulnar in my arm, and my right median nerve got transected here. Anyway, just a host of injuries. My left humerus was broken all by most all by
Starting point is 01:21:45 ball bearings and i do have a hole down here but um so then i i came home and i you know it just ties into this redemption arc i came home and they had me on uh you know obviously they were having a hard time they didn't know if i was gonna be able to walk again and so i went through all of that the physical recovery stuff and then um i got to a civilian doctor out and it got out of the military hospital to a civilian doctor. And he went through the pain medication that I was on. And he was like, Brex and I have women, old women dying of cancer that are on way less than half of the amount of pain medication that you're on. So I was hyper addicted to opioids. Didn't know it at the time, but hyper addicted to opioids.
Starting point is 01:22:25 He started scaling me back. And then I went through about two years of physical, well, the first stage physical therapy. And then I started trying to get off opiates, you know, and just anyway. So I went through struggles with all of that kind of stuff. And so you're speaking to redemption arc. I lived like a complete dirtbag for a long time. So I'm very, I'm very pro redemption myself. I am like a complete dirtbag for a long time. So I'm very pro-redemption myself. I am.
Starting point is 01:22:47 I'm also in recovery, so that's a large part of my story as well. I didn't even really connect that when I was thinking about it here, but maybe that's why the idea of redemption hits me so hard. But I understand that struggle for sure. Yeah, man. It's like prodigal sons, right? You went off and lived in the underworld, and now you're doing your best to climb your way out.
Starting point is 01:23:07 Or like as Dostoevsky writes about it as like the underground. But it's the same, you know, the underground man and everything. It's the same concept. What's the book called? The Glass Factory. So it's about your redemption not coming back from addiction and injury? Honestly, one of my favorite parts about this book has been when I first wrote it, I was looking around and all the war books that I was seeing were just not reflective of the experience.
Starting point is 01:23:34 And it's like I'm not trying to take a shot at anybody, but they were just not reflective of the experience I was seeing around me. I was seeing my friends, you know, several of them commit suicide, getting divorces, going to jail, losing custody of their kids, you know, several of them commit suicide, getting divorces, going to jail, losing custody of their kids, you know, having problems. And the two choices in literature that they sort of had were either uber hero stories, you know, that are anyway, superhero type stories or this this like very whiny, you know, crybaby type thing, and there was no one trying to thread the needle and say, look, yeah, a lot of us are screwing up, and you need to quit screwing up.
Starting point is 01:24:13 And until you stop screwing up, your life is going to suck, man. You've got to get out and do better. So I tried to kind of thread that needle. What was the moment you realized, oh, man, I don't know. It's funny. I actually wrote about this in the book, too. You might like this part of the book you would actually like. I was trying to, you know, you're doing a lot of self-reflection when you're writing
Starting point is 01:24:37 something like that. And I was trying to find this moment and pinpoint it when I decided to be better or whatever. And what I realized is that we all do this when we tell our own stories. Like we look back in time for this one thing that flipped the switch or whatever, but it's never true.
Starting point is 01:24:52 There was always a series of small decisions that led up to or away from making the right one. What was a couple of the really big decisions you made that led you to the right path? I mean, getting up at 5 a.m. helped for me. It doesn't work for everybody. But just getting myself onto a schedule was a big one. So I couldn't run for eight years.
Starting point is 01:25:18 And then one day I was able to kind of jog a little bit again. And I used to be an athlete. And so I was very excited at the possibility of running again so I went and ran a mile with my buddy who's running some endurance stuff and then I decided to transfer that into going and hiking the Mauna Kea in Hawaii and so I had like a goal to train for and that was that was enormous for me to like have something to orient myself at physically so that I actually had to take care of my body. And I'd gotten off of the opiates before,
Starting point is 01:25:51 but then I was just still living like an idiot and drinking too much. I want to ask for both of you guys actually, being in recovery, did religion or God play a role in getting off drugs? I mean, for me, for sure it was, I would say the drug part, I was so lost still at the time that I'm not sure how much God really, I mean, God, so this is where it gets hard. Maybe to my own neurotic, selfish, in my own neurotic selfish uh you know in my own neurotic and selfish mind god wasn't playing a role but i think you know looking back i think for sure god was playing a role and now it helps a lot i didn't have uh any uh such i don't know if i
Starting point is 01:26:39 would have been able to process that type of a concept at the time my brain was in such chaos going through that but for me it was in and like I was just discussing with someone about this, how there's no linear, like everyone looks for that moment where they feel like they're getting better or like this is the big decision. It's in the movies, it's always somebody gets in a car accident and they realize they have to turn their life around. But for most people, it's not something that concrete. You just have to make that decision day by day and and then suddenly you find yourself on a path to do so. And for me, it wasn't religion so much as it was getting, finding firm footing on something I wanted to do. It was like skating for me. It was, I had been sober for a while, and then my mom passed, and then that wasn't an event that led
Starting point is 01:27:19 to it. But it changed things as far as my schedule and my ability to open up my life, because I was, at that time, I was taking care of my mom. She was in poor health for many years. So the ability to get back out and just physical activity played a huge role in that. And like you start actively – getting active again, you feel better about yourself and that leads and it all becomes kind of like a snowball rolling downhill. Hill. And it's just, it wasn't God for me, but it was more the ability to take your life into your own hands and push forward was very monumental when you've been at the mercy of something for so long. The ability to be in control of yourself again is, like I said, I've told this story before. Like when I realized that I could go outside without,
Starting point is 01:28:01 or like I could get up without being sick, I cried. I cried for 20 minutes. And that's because you've now got control of yourself again. You're not beholden to something created by a pharmaceutical company. And that's a revelatory experience that goes far. I mean, maybe that is God speaking in a way, but it certainly feels to be akin to that. I'm thinking about the brain and all the neurons and if that's connected to the magnetosphere
Starting point is 01:28:27 the extremely low frequency band and if that's god and are you part of it yeah you know that's what i normally think about yeah self-control i imagine if there is a god that it's tightly interwoven i just wonder i because i hear a lot of stories that you know a religious experience or something was like force pulling people i tell the story about this guy I knew who's, you know, who's on drugs. And then he had a profound experience where a voice told him to get his life together and it made him very religious.
Starting point is 01:28:51 I looked for something like that. You know, like maybe it's just cause like I, I talk about pop culture all day. I watch movies all day. I'm looking for that movie like experience. That's going to bring me out of the situation I'm in. And then one day you just realize that is not the real,
Starting point is 01:29:07 at least not for everyone, it won't be the real world. It won't be what everybody experiences. And you have to rely on yourself again. And maybe selfishly I would have loved to have had that, but I still have such a hard time asking those questions about faith. Like it's very hard for me to put my faith all in something. So perhaps he had a different belief system that led him more to find something like, you know, to find his answers in that.
Starting point is 01:29:28 And I just hadn't, wherever I was on my journey just wasn't there yet. So I had to find my way a different way. But it's like, that's that movie type way. You always imagine somebody pulling you back from the brink. And that's just, that wasn't my experience, but I almost would have loved to have had that. It feels like that would have been benefit. i think at the root of every addict is fundamentally is
Starting point is 01:29:50 in gratitude for being you know it's like just being angry at being so if you try to cultivate gratitude in your life and yes and uh you know take yourself and and however you want to think about this bone sack that you occupy, start to take that seriously, then a lot of your other problems will sort themselves out. I talk about gratitude as a superpower. The ability to show gratitude for, at a certain point, I'm in a very cheap apartment. I'm working. I'm barely making enough money to get by, but I'm skating every day and I'm doing what I love. And if I can go out every day, walk to get around, do what I need to do, do something that I love while having a job, paying my bills. And if I can be extremely grateful for that, that is something that I feel
Starting point is 01:30:34 like I feel bad for people that can't find the gratitude. You know, like I almost feel like they're missing out on the ability to feel that emotion. What's the best way to find gratitude through pain? For me, I don't know if I find it through pain. I find it through getting through the pain and finding yourself on the other side of it. And that's the ability to handle it without help. Or like without, the ability to find yourself through it and still be okay.
Starting point is 01:30:59 Not without help, but like the ability to suffer through it, achieve, get out on the other side and find out that you're still okay and you can still go on, there's gratitude in that for me. One of the best parts about that is that we all embody that lesson and we don't realize it. Like when you go to the gym and lift weights, you have pain and it's sort of a suffering experience. And you do that because you know that on the other end, you're going be a stronger person and we've known that since we were little you know we learned this slowly over time you know you're you're literally involved embodying that uh that story you know yeah let's go to super
Starting point is 01:31:38 chats if you haven't already smash that like button subscribe to the channel share the show with your friends and head over to timcast.. Become a member if you want to support our journalists. And you will get access to the upcoming members-only show. We'll be live around 11 p.m. on the website. But let's read some Super Chats. Let's see. Ginger McIsaac says, Happy Tax Day, everyone.
Starting point is 01:31:58 Cough, cough, wheeze. I'm just going to say it. You know, Super Chats were low for this show. But I get it. I get it. to say it. You know, super chats were low for this show. But I get it. I get it. I get it. And so, you know, like we've got the console here for the YouTube studio. And I'm looking at the revenue.
Starting point is 01:32:14 And it's not bad. It's like we do well. But I'm just like, everybody's hurting. Pay your taxes. Everybody just cashed that big check. And they're like, oh, man. Lex Freeman made an interesting tweet. He was like, I'm down.
Starting point is 01:32:27 I'm paying my taxes. I'm crying. But I wish I knew where this money was going. I don't like sending it to this amorphous blob of a thing that is bureaucratic. And he makes a fantastic point. I think we should have some sort of transparent mechanism to decide where at least some of our tax money goes. Even if they say, all this is going to black budget. At least I know.
Starting point is 01:32:48 Well, I mean, they can be like, you know, you submit an inquiry. I'd like to know where my, you know, X amount of dollars in taxes went. And then like they just send you back a form that says we blew up kids. That's what it feels like. It's a bit dark because the war, the military budget is not as high as people think it is. Everyone, I think it's like probably 20% of the dollar that you spend in taxes. Maybe I'm wrong about that. I think people think it's really high.
Starting point is 01:33:13 It's not as high as they think. And a lot of it does go to, I think, veterans' benefits. I think that's true. A large portion might go to... It's like $120 billion of it, I think. Yeah. I think the majority of the budget is social programs. I'm nearly positive.
Starting point is 01:33:30 Do you guys know how much – what the tax revenue is for the year or like what it was last year? Google it. And then we'll read some superchats while you Google it. Thank you. I want to know who's going to – sorry. I just want to know who's going to click the gender training or diversity training when they're filling out their tax form. If we go under Ian's system, like how many people are really going to click yeah let's find more of this you know exactly it would be interesting yeah yeah it would be gone people
Starting point is 01:33:53 are gonna be like i don't know it would be like health care and everyone would click yes yeah and then it'd be like war no and it would be like gender studies no it looks like in 2021 they expected in october they had expected to estimates were 3.8 trillion. You said 180 billion go to. Okay, that's not that much. 3.8 trillion. Can you look at the breakdown for where it goes? Yeah, I think it's 120 billion to the VA, but I could be getting that number wrong.
Starting point is 01:34:19 Let's read some more. We got Deli who says, Tim, Felix Rex, a.k.a. Black Pigeon Speaks, is currently in the U.S. I beg you not to let the opportunity pass without getting him on TimCast IRL. Would be a great conversation, especially around geopolitics. I don't think we can because I don't believe that he shows his face much on camera. I haven't caught up with him lately. I do think he did a face reveal, but I don't think he would be comfortable with coming on and giving an interview. We've got a chicken mask downstairs.
Starting point is 01:34:45 You can wear like one of the masks. We could get a horse head. Yeah, perfect. And we could put a mic into the... All right. User Not Available says, Tim, you're looking good. Thank you. I like the haircut.
Starting point is 01:34:54 Also, Ian looks like the teacher from Beavs and Butthead in a good way. Put a pic of him next to Ian. Thank you. Should we get the teacher and we'll put it on the... Definitely. Looks like the teacher. Yeah. All right. I mean, and kind of acts like put it on the... Definitely. Looks like the teacher. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:35:05 I mean, and kind of acts like him too. Yeah, that guy's so funny. What was his name? I don't know. Let's find out. All right. Joe Harshbarger says, Peter Doocy, why do you still recommend masks? Sacky.
Starting point is 01:35:20 For God's sake, Peter, I'm a press secretary, not a doctor. Aha. Star Trek. All right right i got the name it's david van dreesen van dreesen a hippie teacher at highland high school yeah did you see the uh did you see the article i put in uh uh i sent the other day about the person who said they'd only come back for ds9 if it was about social justice oh geez who said that uh one of the one of the actresses from the show. I saw a really interesting post earlier that said it was breaking down how people's lives were, like, in the United States, completely revolving around Christianity, whether they realize it or not, even atheists.
Starting point is 01:36:00 And one of the funny points was that your favorite exclamation is a call to your Lord and Savior. People literally will yell Jesus when they're shocked by something. Do you not realize that? I mean, people really don't think about it. We see these videos of people yelling Allahu Akbar when, like, a bomb goes off. And people are like, what is it? What is it? It's like they're saying, oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:36:21 That's literally, like, probably the best translation. It's like, it means God is great. Like, yeah, but probably the emotion is, oh, my God. That's literally like probably the best translation. It's like it means God is great. Yeah, but probably the emotion is, oh, my God. And so I just said geez, which is just derivative of Jesus. Even atheists in this country will be like you'll yell Jesus Christ when something absurd – like a car will hit a dog and you'll yell that out. I've been wondering why they call him Jesus because it's Yeshua. I think in Aramaic, is that the right language? Yeshua, which is basically
Starting point is 01:36:47 Joshua. Yeshua, Joshua, Yeshua. So why do they call him Jesus and not Josh? Like Josh, dude. And Seamus would have a problem with this whole conversation if he was here right now. Come back to me, Seamus. Hey, I figured out where the money's coming from, from the 3.8 trillion, but I can't figure
Starting point is 01:37:04 out where it's going uh not yet anyway but it's 1.9 trillion comes from individual income tax 1.3 trillion comes from payroll tax and that's the bulk wow just 284 billion came from corporate income tax on this tax day this auspicious of holidays let me just say that um they tax you on the money you earn they tax you when you spend it you have to pay a tax for simply owning a house they tax you on the car you purchase they tax you on the gas you put in it they tax you on not just the food you buy but specific items get extra taxes they tax everything i think people understand this,
Starting point is 01:37:45 that it's like for the average person, what is it, like 50% to 55% of your income goes to taxes because they look at income tax and they're like, that's my taxes, but they don't realize you bought a cheeseburger, a portion goes to the government. You bought a house, now you got to pay the government rent.
Starting point is 01:38:01 The other thing too is that payroll tax, ooh, that's brutal. That means you and your employer are splitting. I think it's 15%. So the employer pays 7.5 and you pay 7.5. They are jamming taxes everywhere. It is insane.
Starting point is 01:38:15 The Founding Fathers, I mean, they revolted because of taxation. No taxation without representation. If you don't know where your money's going, that's a big problem. Taxes! All right, all right. I'm trying to find out, too. Income tax is relatively new in our country's history as far as I can tell. Was it like 19?
Starting point is 01:38:30 Yeah, it's in the 1900s. I think 1917, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was like the Federal Reserve was for it. It was a tiny percentage only for like the ultra-wealthy. It was supposed to be temporary, too, wasn't it? Right. Yeah, for more.
Starting point is 01:38:39 Yeah. They incrementally increased it, increased it. Like they slowed the water, the heat of the water up to boil the people down. I mean, jeez, is it unconstitutional? I don't know. They changed the Constitution to make it legal. Death tax. Someone brought up death tax.
Starting point is 01:38:49 Oh, yeah. So like after you've already paid all your taxes, then you die. The government comes and takes even more. That's crazy. Look, man. How did nobody say like maybe we're going like just for like morale's sake, maybe we shouldn't tax them after death. Like, you know, just give them that, man. Come on. Well, it's sake, maybe we shouldn't tax them after death. Like, you know, the family...
Starting point is 01:39:06 Let them have that one at least. Just give them that, man. Come on. Well, it's because you're dead. You can't complain. Like, maybe the family members might just be a little bit perturbed when... You guys know I am not a taxationist theft guy, but at a certain point... Jeez, yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:21 It's like, you know, I can understand a little bit but we're we're overpaying it's like imagine if netflix came to you one day and they were like uh we're raising your rates to a hundred dollars a month you'd be like whoa whoa whoa hold on there a minute i'm gonna opt out you can't and what if i don't want to pay for netflix anymore we will lock you in a box it's like all right now i got an issue with how much money you're taking from me by force like some money i think is reasonable for all this awesome stuff that we end up having especially security the military hey i'm not i'm not completely opposed to well hold on luke luke and luke of we are changing the chat saying why in the world is no one saying taxation is that luke luke did luke see the uh the meme that
Starting point is 01:40:00 came out on easter it's the three crosses outside the church and they're all T's and it spells taxationist theft. I'll put it this way. It's like, yo, if I have Netflix and it's, you know, 10 bucks a month,
Starting point is 01:40:11 I'm like, that's reasonable. I think it's fair. Like, I'm getting this service, although I don't have Netflix now because Netflix is weird and creepy.
Starting point is 01:40:18 But like, if I was going to get a subscription service, I got no problem paying for it. But if they came to me one day and they were like, your subscription service
Starting point is 01:40:24 is now 10 times more expensive, I'd be like, you're stealing from me. Better yet, they charge your bank account without notifying you and you don't know why they took the money or where it's going and they didn't break it down. And then when you say, hey, I challenge this. You can't do
Starting point is 01:40:40 that. They go, if you don't pay it, we're going to lock you in a box. If you won't go in the box then we'll shoot you yeah right if you won't go in the box i guess the argument of why taxation isn't theft luke and everyone else that thinks that is that they're they're protecting you you pay it's basically since the middle ages they go around they take a little bit of the food the farmers make or a lot of it unfortunately and then they protect the farmers from invaders i get that and i agree but my point is like up to that point I'm like, yeah, yeah, no, that's
Starting point is 01:41:05 cool. I like the military. Cool dudes. But, well, I mean, now with all the woke stuff happening, I'm not so sure. But if someone came to me and said, hey, it's $100 a month for the security that we're going to be providing because we're all pitching in, I'd be like, that's cool. If one day that guy showed up to my house and smashed
Starting point is 01:41:22 a flower pot and says, you've got to give me more money if you want to be safe. I don't think you're protecting me anymore. So it's just a protection racket. Right. It is. You have to give them the money in an envelope. You guys don't like the fact that they're using this money to pay for foreign wars.
Starting point is 01:41:36 I don't like the fact that they're using this money to pay for stuff that I don't agree with. I'm pro-life. They're using it to fund abortions. What gives? This is my money that they're taking from me to do this kind of stuff. don't know no it should be you're right it should be decided from the ground up exactly there's a guy and he's like so uh your monthly bill for your road subscription includes a surcharge for killing babies blowing up babies overseas for making the weapons that kill the babies this is the drone tax this is the drone tax here it's like all i wanted was
Starting point is 01:42:05 police in a fire department and they're like oh yeah yeah but we got all these fees we gotta add on and then you're like all right well can i add health care no sorry we don't offer health care it's like but the roads but the roads so like that that's the thing it's you know if i could trade a lot of if i could if i'll tell you this if if we could itemize the tax list i'm sure we could take out a huge chunk and like put it in the garbage and then take like a little tiny bit and you get health care back for it yeah i'm not saying universal health care outright for everything i'm saying a little bit sure a little if you guys want to know who's in charge of this uh who created this income tax irs form 1040 it was william howard taft from 1909 to 1913 he was
Starting point is 01:42:44 our president. Damn it. Right when the Federal Reserve was formed. I mean, it's just part of the racket. It's corporate fascist. Let's read some more super chats here. All right. We got... Arthamesia says, if you have to ask a biologist about gender, does that mean gender is biological?
Starting point is 01:42:59 Yes. And if you have to ask a Jen Psaki about masks, does that, and she's not a doctor, does that mean masks are an issue for a doctor? Yes. Good point. Adrian Contreras says, I cannot compete with the majesty of your beard,
Starting point is 01:43:15 sir. I will shave mine in disgrace. All right. Invisible buds, invisible dud says Matt Walsh in an alternate reality, quote, what is a man? Answer,
Starting point is 01:43:27 this guy's beard. I really like your beard, man. Oh, my word. All right. Jonathan Munoz says, look up an old whitest kid you know sketch, bike up the A.
Starting point is 01:43:41 It is a great sketch that portrays reality now where you can't have an opinion on something unless you are an expert. Oh, really? That's funny. I love whitest kids you know. Yeah is a great sketch that portrays reality now where you can't have an opinion on something unless you are an expert. Oh, really? That's funny. I love what his kids, you know. Yeah, I'll check that out.
Starting point is 01:43:50 All right. TNHP podcast says, Tim, if you're all right with this question, has anyone on your team besides yourself received death threats? And if they're comfortable with explaining? I don't know. I don't know. I don't think so. I think it's just me. Nothing like that. Plenty of people that aren't happy with where I work. People who just...
Starting point is 01:44:12 I've been making YouTube videos since 2006 and yeah, you get the most stupid comments and messages from people if you're putting your face on the internet and speaking. It's just part and parcel to the entertainment industry. That's why Paramount Pictures has giant walls surrounding their work environment because people will come back. Even if it's not like a death threat, people coming and mobbing you to say hello is also a sort of threat to your ability to move around.
Starting point is 01:44:35 So you need to protect your environment. It's a new genre of art, man. We've got to take care of ourselves. It's not just that. People think whenever something comes up, they're like, those leftists. And I'm like, I've got to be honest. It's probably just that. It's, you know, people think whenever something comes up, they're like, those leftists. And I'm like, I got to be honest. It's probably just a guy who thinks that I invented the piano and that I'm hoarding ivory to take over Mount, you know, Bigfoot.
Starting point is 01:44:55 And so he's the only one who can save the world from the pending Sasquatch invasion by stopping me. Like, just nonsense. Like, crazy people. That sounds amazing. That whole pitch was just amazing. I own that IP. Not Big Like, crazy people. That sounds amazing. Yeah, sounds amazing. That whole pitch was just amazing. I own that IP. Not Bigfoot, the invasion. Yes.
Starting point is 01:45:09 Pianos, I own it. The ivory, yeah. Yeah, actually, someone should make that. That'd be great. Play us out, Bigfoot. Bigfoot's not real. Oh. All right.
Starting point is 01:45:19 I don't want you to think. David Fitzsimmons says, missed last show live, so I want to say that, say Daryl Davis is the sun and hate speech laws are the wind in the parable to make a man disrobe his coat. I'm not sure what that parable is. What is that one? So the sun warms people and makes them shed their shields, whereas the wind makes people tighten up and hate what they're doing.
Starting point is 01:45:37 Oh, I see, I see, I see. All right. Rob Madsen says, happy to see y'all made it safely back home. Also, please get Randall Carlson on. Would love a chill podcast for once. And you should look up Tim Pool Loses It and Attacks a Guest by Ping Trip. I don't know what that is. What is that?
Starting point is 01:45:55 I lose it and attacks a guest? Is that like a funny edit where I fight somebody? I agree with Randall Carlson. He's a geologist. He's been studying the flood theory from 13,000 years ago at the end of the younger dry us. Be a great Friday guest. Conti says, Tim, have you seen airline ticket prices? Was looking up for my family of four, and the ticket cost $36,000 plus. What?
Starting point is 01:46:14 $36,000. Whoa. I mean, we've – yeah, ticket prices are a lot. But we'll see how things go. I think that the economy is going to continue to implode. Housing prices I don't think will come down. I'm not a financial expert. I'm not an economist.
Starting point is 01:46:31 But just based on a lot of stuff that I've seen, I think houses aren't going to come down because the material costs are way too high. So they probably can come down a bit, but not as much as people are expecting. There's going to be a crash. I don't know, man. Try building a house right now. See how expensive it is. I wonder if it gets to a point where somebody owns so many houses and they can't sell any of them because no one has the money or can afford it. And then the houses start to rot. So they're like, we need to drop the prices and get these things out.
Starting point is 01:46:54 Otherwise, we're just losing money. But you're saying they might demolish it for the resources. In Ukraine, the cost of a house or like a studio will be $300,000. And a Ukrainian earns something like $400 per month. So they can never buy it. What do they do? All the oligarchs that own the property rent it out. So you've got permanent tenants who have no choice.
Starting point is 01:47:13 And the rent is not that high, but the buildings aren't in great shape, but people have no choice. You could argue that having corporations maybe should only own a certain number of houses that any corporation cannot own more than a certain number of houses. What if we, like, as a people, like, collective, just, you know, what's the right word? Maybe seized
Starting point is 01:47:33 the means of production. Seize the means of production? Yeah. Interesting idea. I like the idea, like, I think it's funny they call it seizing the means of production because like who is seizing it like we are no you're not it's the guys the guns are dude and what are the means of production they mean the kulak i mean well this is this is funny
Starting point is 01:47:54 because i got in an argument with a socialist once and i was like what does that mean the means of production and they're like you know like the things to make stuff and i was like is my camera the means of production because i make videos and they're like well I I guess and I'm like so then someone would take my camera from me and they're like well I don't know it's your camera and I'm like what are you talking about then they get into the private property versus personal property oh it's disgusting ridiculous nonsense and what about the stuff that's in your mind you know because that's part of the means of production. We will take your brains. With neural net coming. Yeah. They're zombies.
Starting point is 01:48:28 All right. Wandering Mage says, what do you think of the belief that we need a complete societal collapse to fix our corruption and other societal ills that there's no cultural change we can make to fix our society in the long term? I hear this view a lot. Well, I don't completely disagree. I think that we as a society have become particularly addicted and there's a lot of, I don't know, there's a lot of stuff that's ingrained that is bad. The issue is, it's not so much about society breaking down to fix it. It's that the like two factions have butted off and split from each other. I think the left is a destructive, chaotic force that seeks nothing.
Starting point is 01:49:08 I think it's just power for the sake of power, change for the sake of change, people saying random nonsense things for the sake of fitting in with the current thing. And then that's actually separated itself from where we are, which is not overtly conservative. It's more like principled, libertarian, conservative-ish with a spattering of different ideologies mixed in, but retaining a baseline of a moral framework and a goal. So I don't think this needs to collapse, but there may need to be some kind of peaceful divorce
Starting point is 01:49:38 where the chaotic destructive force goes off and just spirals out and burns out or something. I mean, you don't want to collapse. I can tell you that. I saw a collapse in Iraq. It is not good i mean it is people don't get it yeah it is ugly very ugly like a collapse means finding your uncle in a dump you know and your kid in a ditch i mean that's what collapse means we i mean look it collapse could mean if you're out in the middle of nowhere and you've got a farm waking up one day to a bunch of hipsters running off with your chickens because roving bands of urban liberal types who don't know how to survive are just ransacking.
Starting point is 01:50:14 Also, fire. I mean, geez, have we undervalued the danger of fire and what people can do to a city if they want to light it on fire? That's collapse. You don't want that. You saw it. You saw it. Oh, yeah. I'm agreeing with you for sure yep i saw a meme one time by the way i gotta bring this up and it said uh who would win a cow and a lantern or the entire city of chicago my favorite meme
Starting point is 01:50:39 i think that's an earth like a apocryphal probably but that's a good story tim you're ruining my what is the exact story mrs o'leary's yes mrs o'leary's cow uh the great chicago fire it was 1901 yeah she was like milking it or something right and kicked the lantern out of her hand yeah you know most a lot of people on earth that don't have electricity still burn kerosene it's so dangerous not only they breathe it in but it's a fire hazard i mean it's a lot of people. Alright, JustSomeGuy says, Tim, I was halfway to tears by the end of your conversation
Starting point is 01:51:10 with Michael and Jeremy in the best way. Can't describe it. Maybe I needed to hear that conversation and felt God. Thank you. P.S. Jean-Luc Picard for a silky rooster. That's pretty good. That was a really fun conversation we had with Jeremy Boring and Michael Knowles of The Daily Wire,
Starting point is 01:51:27 asking these questions about philosophy and ethics. If there's a raging river and there's your dog or a stranger, who would you save if you could only save one? The stranger. The stranger. Yeah. The interesting question, the reason that came up is that it used to be that Americans always would say the stranger, but now they say their dog. And I'm wondering if that's mental illness.
Starting point is 01:51:49 I asked the question. No one really could answer that. But is it a form of mental illness that people would protect their pets over a stranger? Yeah. Yes. It's definitely mental illness. And it's also just reflective of how much we hate each other. I think maybe I would describe it as a natural aberration in that I don't think you're ill because you love your pet and you want to save what you care about. There's also a point that humans and dogs survived together.
Starting point is 01:52:16 So there's an element of survival in attachment to a dog. The issue is that we've come to a point where, in this case, the dog is probably a toy poodle, which is not going to help you survive at all. But the emotional attachment comes from the days of humans hunting with proto-dogs, which are effectively wolves. Now, wanting to save your proto-dog or your German shepherd...
Starting point is 01:52:38 Well, it's like that dog is helping you hunt, sniffing things out. You're surviving. Without it, you could be in trouble, so you need your dog. But now, we've artificially selected dogs down to like chihuahuas and someone's going to be like frisky and they're going to jump in the river and save the little toy poodle and the person isn't going to make it how many people would save their car or the stranger let me just let me just say even going back to those periods where it was your your dog versus the person the person would help you survive more the reason i'd say it's an aberration is that I think it comes from a good place.
Starting point is 01:53:07 But whatever it is, this mentality that's taking over will result without some kind of intervention, technologically or otherwise, in human civilization collapsing. Because you cannot survive if you don't prioritize your own people, your own species, in the event of a catastrophe, then humans just won't. It's a mathematical equation. Over a long enough period of time, humans who do not prioritize humans will cease to exist. No. I heard a similar one one time really quick that it was a psychological experiment that they put together. And if you were wearing your nice clothes or whatever, and you saw a kid drowning, like you're wearing a suit and expensive shoes or whatever, would you just jump in to save the kid or would you take off your suit or whatever to do it?
Starting point is 01:53:53 And the breakdown was like an enormous amount of people were like, yeah, I would take off my suit or my watch or whatever the heck it was. The suit I could understand. Take your iPhone out of your pocket. Because you can't swim. Right, exactly. The shoes I'd take off so I could get web my web toes out there but like get their phone in their pocket would they take the time to get their phone out of the pocket check check they have email before they set it down they take out their phone they they selfie them and the kids
Starting point is 01:54:15 screaming and they throw their phone down that's what would actually happen i still get one for the gram well you see do you see that story about the woman who got raped on a train no in front of people they'll just pulled out their phones. Oh, my gosh. Where was that? What country? It had to be New York. The United States?
Starting point is 01:54:28 I just didn't want you to say that. I'm pretty sure it was New York. Oh, man. I don't know, though. Google it. Google it. It may have been New York. And everyone just starts filming, and I'm like, well, I mean, nobody wants to fight.
Starting point is 01:54:38 And I'll tell you, I'll be honest. I don't know if I would intervene. You know why? Because you will go to jail. Yeah, you'll get accused of being you know racist or of excessive force and so what do you do you can't be armed i'll tell you this in west virginia i got nothing to worry about if i see someone attacking somebody i'm going to intervene carefully very carefully but you've got a lot less to worry about when you're acting defensive other of others here versus places like New York.
Starting point is 01:55:05 Was it New York? Philadelphia. October 21 on the SEPTA train. People just pulled out their phones. Yikes. Man. All right. Bad Adam says,
Starting point is 01:55:16 Brett, I'm a paying member of Timcast. Why can't I watch full episodes of Pop Culture Crisis on the Timcast website? I don't think I should have to go to Spotify to watch a full episode. Ask Tim. I have't think I should have to go to Spotify to watch a full episode. Ask Tim. I have long suggested that we should... He didn't ask me. Ask me now.
Starting point is 01:55:30 We were talking about... I wanted to put the full episode, the video version of the episodes up. Originally, I wasn't sure if it was because of YouTube or Rumble or whatever we were talking. We talked about it at one point about long-form content.
Starting point is 01:55:50 Our show's live. rumble or whatever we were taught we talked about it at one point about long form content because we do we our shows live yeah and yours is recorded yeah so i was like how would we structure that with the clips yeah but for the website we should just put it on we should use rumble i would be i that's i one of the first things that i wanted to do like once we got to a certain size was that we would include that just because i think that it would be good for i always like push it like whenever I'm pushing the Spotify link. It's all the witty banter that you could... When we cut the segments up, I tend to trim down areas. The conversation really stopped here before we moved into
Starting point is 01:56:13 this subject. Let's put them on Rumble. Change has been made. We will hopefully be doing that very, very soon. You guys are involved in the creative process. Yes, we are. Is Mary doing articles? Is she going to be doing articles?
Starting point is 01:56:28 Right now, we're just still working to get through the format and get everything organized every day. We've got a good structure. Now, what she's been doing is she goes on to the cesspool of Twitter, which I just do not dare to go because I just – I don't – life is too short, and I just – I don't Twitter. So she goes and she'll like, look, this is happening today. Like, she was finding me stuff at Coachella that I would never have talked about. And so she'll curate some stuff for me, and we may eventually turn that into article writing where she can be like, look at all these people are having this discussion, and then write her piece about it, and then we can involve that in that process.
Starting point is 01:57:04 But once we get there, we'll make that work. Megan Cole says, my husband works in customer support for a small jet company. He said the air isn't recirculated. It is brought in from outside and pressurized for you to breathe and there's a process for taking it out of the cabin. You are not breathing the same air. Interesting. Good.
Starting point is 01:57:21 You guys want to know a trick when you're flying commercial? You ever notice that people fart a lot on airplanes? Because of the pressure. So they start farting like crazy. Some people, they got it bad. So what you do is you turn on the air vent, but you point it down to your right, creating a force field of air
Starting point is 01:57:38 that repels their noxious gases. Alright. I have learned something truly meaningful today. It's like the ball at the waterfall. The smell gets stuck on the flowing air
Starting point is 01:57:49 and just revolves there. And it sits right on that person's face. And then when they're going, oh, oh, you're like, you've done this yourself. All right. Murph Try says,
Starting point is 01:58:02 Brent, really enjoyed you and Mary's review of Father Stew. Plan on seeing it soon. Tim, four flags in the room. If a kid brought in a papal flag, it would leave the teacher speechless, like you know the thing. Michael Knowles? So I said on Twitter, we should have – teachers should teach kids – have religious studies in schools.
Starting point is 01:58:25 These kids have questions, and teachers should be allowed to answer them. Teachers should also tell the kids to keep their religious studies a secret from their parents. Imagine if we had done that there to don't say religion. Don't say God. Don't say God. Don't say God, Bill. I actually do think teachers should talk about religion. And the funny thing is the response I got when I tweeted that was they were like, you know, trans people are real and you
Starting point is 01:58:51 can't talk about fake things. And I was like, when did I say anything about trans people? When did I anything say anything about a specific religion? When did I say the teachers would tell these kids the religions were true? Quite literally, I think of the kids like someone told me it is God. It's like, oh yeah, well, we should talk about religions of the world. Why wouldn't you teach kids about various religions? And then if one kid's like, wow, that religion's interesting. It's like, well, you can go talk to your parents about it. You know, but like basic understanding of that, I see no issue with. And that's where they get you on the LGBTQ stuff is they're trying to pretend like I'm just trying to let them know that people love each other. But then you see the books they're pushing through and you see like the things they're telling kids.
Starting point is 01:59:32 You're like, that's entirely different. Telling a kid that there is something bigger than all of us, that's hard for me to explain because I'm not a priest. But definitely talk to your parents about it. Why there are people all over the world who do these things is very different from like human sexuality. But even still, the point was more facetious. Like, if you're going to ban this, you know.
Starting point is 01:59:52 If the progressive parent comes into school and says, why are you teaching religion in your school? You say, I don't know. I'm not a priest. Yeah, there you go. There you go. All right, let's grab a couple more here.
Starting point is 02:00:04 Mr. Big Bird says, Yeshua was transliterated. There was no yeah, so it became ea, shua. Oh, I'm sorry, shua was a feminine name suffix, so it became sus. The I later turned into J, and the pronunciation shifted. I remember the first time when I was a little kid, I saw someone named Jesus. And I was like, oh. I didn't understand. I was a little kid, I saw someone named Jesus. And I was like, oh. I didn't understand. I was like really young.
Starting point is 02:00:27 And I was like, did your parents name you Jesus? And he's like, my name's Jesus. And I was like, does that mean Jesus? Yes. I'm like, oh, cool. Like Joshua. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 02:00:39 Let's see what we got here. Last one. Jeremy Lewis says, Brooklyn Democratic Party leaders are trying to prevent prevent rep your black candidates from serving on the Dem County Committee. What is your block rep your block candidates? Oh, sorry. On the Democrat County Committee in coordinated filing of objections, blocking common people from being Democratic candidates. Candidates, of course, they don't want what happened to the Republican Party to happen to them. I would freak them out. All right, ladies and gentlemen, if you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends,
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Starting point is 02:03:33 YouTube.com slash Chicken City. I think the funniest thing was that when we were hanging out with Brett Cooper from the Daily Wire, you know, they come into the trailer and I'm like, have you seen Chicken City? And she's like, oh, I was watching that earlier. And I was like, oh, cool. I didn't realize that was you guys. It just popped up on YouTube. I started watching it because it into the trailer and I'm like, have you seen Chicken City? And she's like, oh, I was watching that earlier. And I was like, oh, cool. I didn't realize that was you guys just popped up on YouTube.
Starting point is 02:03:48 I started watching it because relaxing. And I'm like, yes. You know, the meme, the joke is that people are saying they want Chicken City to get more concurrent viewers than Joe Biden on his next speech or whatever. And I'm like, it's a joke, but it would be good for chicken city so i will accept it all right everybody we'll see you all over at timcast.com thanks for hanging out

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