Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #517 - We Got Our Times Sq. Billboard SLAMMING WaPo & Taylor Lorenz For Lying w/Derek Harvey

Episode Date: April 27, 2022

Tim, Ian, Seamus of FreedomToons, and Lydia join retired Army colonel and candidate for county commissioner Derek Harvey to discuss Tim's Times Square billboard, the Twitter lawyer crying with employees over Elon Musk's takeover, the strange changes to Twitter follower counts and engagement, Twitter's strange response to the concept of 'free speech', the Dem lawmakers calling for 'greater oversight' of social media platforms, woke Amazon employees losing their minds over Matt Walsh's kids' book, and how blue states are driving out businesses and citizens with restrictive policies. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So we got a billboard in Times Square. It is massive. It's got two sides. And it reads, Taylor Lorenz doxed at Libs of TikTok. And we did this because Taylor Lorenz, a journalist for the Washington Post, wielded institutional power like a cudgel to target people that she did not like. The framing of the story she did that doxed Libs of TikTok was that Libs of TikTok is bad. Okay. Now I think that reporting is great. We should know what is the motivation behind Libs of TikTok. And depending on who the person is behind it, maybe we should know who they are. Turns out it was kind of a random person. So publishing the name served nothing in the story. So I am critical of Taylor Lorenz for publishing the name, but think the reporting was merited.

Taylor Lorenz then released private home information and work information of this individual, which I condemn. Taylor Lorenz then lied about it on TV and the Washington Post lied about it. So I said, okay, you want to wield institutional power against regular people or against people, you know, people to cause harm. I can wield institutional power against regular people or against people to cause harm? I can wield institutional power too. So with the help of Jeremy Boring, co-CEO of The Daily Wire and The Daily Wire crew, we got this billboard up very quickly. So we'll talk all about that story as well as a whole bunch of other stuff. The top lawyer for Twitter, Vijay Agade, the person that I actually spoke with on the Joe Rogan podcast, cried in a meeting discussing Elon Musk's Twitter takeover. So we have a whole lot to break down

there in terms of Elon's takeover of this, you know, of all the Twitter stuff. And Joe Biden, apparently they found Daily Mail is saying there's $5.2 million in his income unaccounted for. Makes you wonder about what he was doing with those special private deals with China and in Ukraine. So we'll talk all about this. Plus, Ron DeSantis is killing it. He's raising massive amounts of money. So we're going to talk about media, a lot of stuff having to do with Elon Musk and the billboard stuff and the aftermath of what's going on in terms of doxing. So it should be a good time. Joining us to discuss this is Derek Harvey. Hey, glad to be here. You want to pull your mic up a little bit? Yeah, sure. Tell us, who are you, good sir? Well, I'm Derek Harvey. I used

to work for Devin Nunes as the lead investigator for the House Intelligence Committee. I was in the Army for 26 years and chief of intelligence for General Petraeus and General Ordierno, served almost five years in Iraq. And I was the Special Assistant and Director for Middle East Policy and North Africa Policy for President Trump in the first year of the Trump White House. Wow. So, storied career. And now you're running for office just right here in Maryland. Right, right here in the county you're in, Washington County. I'm running for the county commissioner position, and I think that we need some new leadership, new change. I think I have the experience and the knowledge and the integrity to bring some changes to Washington County. This is going to be great because not only do we have

to talk about stuff going on behind the scenes with the white house and uh the russiagate hoax and corruption in media but uh as as someone who lives in and is running in washington county we can talk all about why the failed policies that we see in states like maryland result in businesses fleeing which hurt those states so that's going to be a lot of fun thanks for joining us glad to be here absolutely we have shamus yeah and i just want to say i'm really interested and exciting to hear some details about the Trump White House from an insider. I'm sure that's going to be fascinating. I'm Seamus Coghlan. I run a channel called Freedom Tunes.

We upload political cartoons every single week, every Thursday. Y'all should go subscribe if you aren't already subscribed. Good to see you, Derek. I always like talking about people that have military intelligence experience. I rolled an 84. Oh, that means a lot. 1984 all over again.

Oh, Jesus. 76 yesterday. Oh, man. One day at a time. Peace and love. And I am also here in the corner pushing buttons, as is my want. Very excited to have Derek. He has a long history, and I'm stoked to hear what he's got to say.

I also want to mention there's one more story we're going to talk about. Oh, yeah? Something strange is happening with the Twitter algorithm. Thanks for reminding me, Super Chat. We have a few tweets pulled up tracking the gain in followers among right wing personalities and the loss in followers among left wing personalities. Some have said people are just coming back to the platform and leftists are leaving. I don't think that's true. I absolutely not. Tucker Carlson didn't just gain 62,000 followers today on news that broke yesterday morning so that doesn't make sense many people believe this is twitter panicking and shutting

down their manipulation of the system because elon musk is going to get in there and he's going to see exactly what they're doing and how much one of that malfeasance and elon musk is going to have access to all those records so So they locked down the code? Well, they supposedly locked down the code to prevent sabotage, but could it be they locked down the code because they're doing something nefarious behind the scenes and don't want anyone to see it? We will see. But before we get started, my friends, head over to TimCast.com, become a member to help support our work. And as a member, not only do you get access to exclusive segments of the TimCast IRL podcast Monday through Thursday at 8 p.m., you help support us in doing things like buying billboards.

And in this instance, with the help of The Daily Wire, they helped put this together really, really quickly. So shout out to Jeremy Boring and The Daily Wire. I know I said I wanted to do this and I had a plan for it, but they had the magic and the institutional force to push back, and so I'm eternally grateful for them. But this is what we're going to do. As a member, we are using your membership fees to hire journalists. We just hired another journalist. We're going to hire two more columnists really, really soon. We're looking to hire some more hosts for new shows.

We're expanding. That's thanks to you. And we're going to have fact checkers. We've got a few nonprofits working on. It's all about building out the culture, challenging the machine and speaking truth to power. But let's talk about speaking truth to power. Smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the first story from Timcast.com. Timcast CEO puts Billboard in Times Square calling out Washington Post reporters doxing of libs of TikTok.

Taylor Lorenz blocked Tim Pool on Twitter after videos of the sign were posted online. Oh, I want to talk about this so bad. Now, we do have a disclaimer. At the top, it says Tim Pool is the owner and CEO of Timcast Media, including Timcast.com, because we have standards. This seems a little biased. I'm going to be honest. Actually, it's not. It's a straightforward news story.

I don't know. I've got to look into it. I'm not going to take your word for it. I have Timcast, CEO of Timcast, telling me his article on Timcast about him, the CEO of Timcast, isn't biased. Do you expect me to buy that right now? It is not biased. All right. Well, I'll just have to see for myself.

You see, the fact that we reveal that information shows. It's actually particularly straightforward it's just several quotes so a new message has joined the glowing advertisements in new york city's time square admonishing the washington post for publishing private information of the creator of libs of tiktok twitter account it shows statements from me it shows that you know very straightforward jeremy boring and and tim cast put this together taylor lorenz the technology reporter for the Washington Post. It shows, I believe, just statements from me mostly about it. Now, I suppose you could argue that Taylor, her responses should have been included in the story. But considering

it's just about the billboard and why I did it, I think that's fair. And I think it's fair when I say, you know, this is how we're addressing it. What is it? Incredibly cool and handsome CEO of Timcast, publishes awesome billboards. It also says super strong. Really strong. And I won't take that from you. And his mom says he's the most handsome. I think the way this should have been framed

is bigoted far-right figure harasses a poor innocent journalist. Let me tell you guys real quick just about what happened. So we talked about putting up the billboard. We were like, fingers crossed they'll approve it. They did. All right.

I think I will play for you the video right here. It's actually quite simple. It says, democracy dies in darkness. Turn that down. That's why we're shining a light on you. Taylor Lorenz doxed at libs of TikTok at Tim cast. So first let me just address some of the immediate points people brought up. Why didn't we link to anything? Why didn't we use it as an opportunity to promote the show?

You can't, you cannot use other people's likenesses to advertise your product. So there are rules, restrictions, and laws. Also, I'm like, I have to sign it. I'm the one who did it. I'm not going to pretend it wasn't me. We're going to put Timcast on it. What else are we going to do? I figured if we didn't, it would be, I don't know, I should have my name on the things that I'm doing. So that's ultimately how we decided to do it. The first thing that happens after we put it up is Taylor Lorenz responded saying, Tim Pool, actually, I think we might have the tweets from Taylor Lorenz as to what she said. Maybe not. Okay, hold on. No, I don't think we do. But Taylor Lorenz responded that Tim Pool,

the CEO of the Daily Wire, put up this billboard trying to discredit my journalism. My response was that I didn't want to discredit her journalism. Actually, I defended her reporting on lives of TikTok. However, she lied about doxing and that's what needed to be called out. Her response was, or so let me show you this image. I said to her, when her response was like, you know, a goofy face saying, oh, the internet's so crazy. I said, I'm glad you and your friends are happy. You made your point on CNN. I made mine on Times Square.

And now we can move on. She responded, my family and friends are not happy. They have been subject to a nonstop stream of hateful attacks, doxing and violent attacks driven by this baseless campaign. Happy to hear you're moving on. Taylor, I did not insult you. I did not dox you. And I defended your reporting.

I called you a liar because you lied about doxing libs of TikTok. If you do not want to be held to account for amoral or unethical activities, you should not be in media committing amoral or unethical activities. I do not tolerate insulting the person over her appearance or age. I do not support doxing. And I think libs of TikTok should be reported on. We need to know who the influential people behind our politics are.

But when you lie about it, you get called out. Now she's claiming that there's violent attacks, and it's, I'm part of this campaign. Oh, you know what? Just spare me. Words are violence. Remember that. Words are violence.

That's where we're at. Yep. No, I mean, look, it's no secret this podcast has been swatted a number of times. People here have been threatened. I also have had people harass me, do things that have made me feel unsafe. I have been doxxed.

I don't like saying it. I don't like talking about it. It's a little bit weird to bring it up every single time someone criticizes you. Yeah, it's funny because she's like, this is violence against me, and then she posts it. It's a little bit weird to bring it up every single time someone criticizes you. Yeah, it's funny because she's like, this is violence against me. And then she posts it. It's like, I don't think you're being serious. You know, I think when the story first comes out, I tweeted the link. She tweets it with a goofy face saying, oh, these people are so crazy. Oh, this post is so dumb. But then when I said, glad you're not upset and we can move on,

she lost it. She blocked me immediately. Then she made another tweet saying, this is the violence behind this. And now she's acting like it's the biggest attack against her. No, I think she likes the press. What's the evidence of violence? I'd like to hear to explain that to everybody. Well, see, we've talked about this before. It's a fascinating thesis. See, if you grow up in hardship or perhaps you're in the armed forces, you experience

real risks and real threats. When you are at risk of losing your life from the job you're working, you know what violence really is. When you've been punched, attacked, or assaulted, you know what violence really is. But if you are a soft-bellied, I don't know, let's say your family's rich and they sent you to like a Swiss boarding school and so you've never really experienced hardship. Well, no one's ever dared speak ill of you. So the first time someone says a nasty word, you get that shock to your system like someone attacked you. They feel physical pain like, you said what about me? That's

never happened before. she probably grew up with participation awards and being told she was great the whole time yeah she went to a swiss boarding school yeah so uh i can't imagine someone like her has actually experienced hardship but i think i i don't think she's um i don't think she's stupid certainly she understands that she docks the lips of tiktok and is lying about it because it's seriously easily proven. It's now been confirmed by multiple sources. That's why I pulled up other sources. We have this from the Washington Free Beacon, which is my friend's NewsGuard certified, which says Lorenz not only revealed the identity of the anonymous person who runs the account, but also included a copy of the person's real estate license, which showed her home address.

The post later removed the home address from the story, then lied about it, saying we did not publish or link to any details about her personal life. Let me just show you Taylor Lorenz's Wikipedia, which says the article further publicized the identity of the account owner as Chaya Raichik and provided personal details. Okay. So she's lying. It's obvious she's lying. And she knows she's lying. Tim, what's her motivation for doing that? Because by exposing those personal details, it's inviting harassment, minimally. It's inviting violence. You're calling her out, and you're giving them the directions to where to go get her. Yeah, I think... Look, I'm not going to give Taylor the benefit of the doubt. I think

they, she or whoever on the team included the link to the private address, knowing what they were doing to terrorize. Because, you know, we've got security issues. We know exactly what it means. And we have, we have armed guards now. We have to get armed security in a variety of fashions. So when someone publishes your address in one of the most powerful and largest institutional publications in the world, even if it's for only an hour or two, you know what that means. It means you're not safe. And because of that, the person behind Libs of TikTok had to flee to a safe location. Now, it's possible that this is no longer the current address of the individual. All I know, and as we've reported, is that the address is listed in public records as the private residence of the individual. Sometimes people

have addresses listed in the public and they move from them and never change it. I think it's a fair point to make because I want to make sure everyone's getting as much understanding of what's going on as possible. Taylor Lorenz has not provided any evidence or any counterclaim other than didn't do it. It's like, okay, well, here's the link. It's in the archive. No, didn't do it. The Washington Post says they didn't even link to it. But you can actually just see the link in the article in the archive.

Yeah, and not only I didn't do it, but you are victimizing me by pointing out the fact that I did it. Correct. Very slimy. I don't want to give them the benefit of the doubt for putting that up but i don't want to assume intent either so i don't know exactly why it all happened but here's the thing so ian even if they didn't realize that this person was going to be harassed and potentially threatened and have their safety put at risk when they publish their address that would just make

them incredibly incompetent journalists who aren't worthy of their platform. So either way, it's horrible. Hey, I agree with that. Massive failure regardless. It has to be called out. Yeah, I'm kind of like, geez, go easy on this. But no, don't, because they really made a journalistic faux pas or massive mistake in rendering as little harm as possible to the people that you're reporting on. And that needs to be called out. So it doesn't happen again. Well, they always cry foul when it's done to them. When they're called out, when they're named, you know, they're a

victim right away. And they did it to somebody else and they're denying it. And they always deny and then they move on and they don't want to be held accountable. What's that Darvo? Is that what it's called? I don't know. I've heard of Darvo or something. There's this thing that the left always says. It's like deny...

Attack, reverse, victim, and offender. Yes. So you reverse the victim and the offender. You deny it. That's what she's doing. You attack and then you reverse the victim and the defender. And that's what Taylor Lorenz is doing. Absolutely.

She's denying she did the doxing. She's attacking people who are calling her out. And she's making herself the victim and the people who she attacked, the offenders. So it's funny because it's the left that often tweets about that, saying the right does it. But literally, this is what they do. Oh, no. It's like that cartoon you ever see of the woman, the feminist, and she's shoveling crap over a wall and says opinions over the internet. And when they throw it back, she goes, help, I'm being oppressed. It's like, welcome to the real

world. Listen, you do not get to wield institutional power as a weapon and then hide behind it. Because now these people are starting to realize what happens when other people who also have the ability to wield institutional power decide to strike back. And they're not going to like it, but I am done sitting around. All we did, all we did is put up a simple message. Taylor Lorenz docks the limbs of TikTok. I did not insult her. I did not post her address. I didn't reveal any private information about her. I made a simple statement. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Well, part of what makes this so hideous is the fact that a few weeks ago, before this was even a story, Taylor Lorenz was on MSNBC and she started crying because she said

she fears for what people will do with each tiny little bit of information about her that was leaked. So she's clearly very conscious about this kind of thing. And then she went on to publish somebody else's personal private address. And then lie about it. And then lie about it. All right. Well, speaking of crying, let's advance to the next story in this saga, which is, it's all somewhat related, but it's a little bit different. We have this from Politico. Twitter's top lawyer reassures staff and cries during meeting about Musk takeover. Vijaya Gade, a key executive involved in decisions to remove former President Donald Trump and ban political advertising, expressed uncertainty about the future of the platform. I'm not going to gloat over someone crying. I think it's a good example,

nonetheless, of the problems this company has. Elon Musk did not do anything. The deal's not even done. All that's happened is they've signed the document saying, we're going to have a deal. For all we know, it doesn't go through for some reason. Side note, in the event the deal doesn't go through, Twitter has to pay Elon Musk $1 billion. If Elon Musk screws up the deal, he's got to pay them $1 billion. If Elon Musk screws up the deal, he's got to pay them $1 billion. But I doubt that's going to happen. So if the shareholders

vote no on this deal, they have... Elon cornered this company. This is incredible. Let me just break this down. Elon makes the offer shortly before their first quarter earnings report, in which the revenue is likely going to show bad quarter. So the stock will go down. Elon Musk offers them a premium. If they reject that and the stock goes down, now they're liable to the shareholders for not accepting something they knew was a good deal. In the deal, they agree to a $1 billion breakup clause. If the shareholders vote no, Elon Musk gets a free billion dollars. So now the shareholders are like, if we don't vote for this,

not only are we likely going to see the stock plummet, but we're going to be out, the company will be out a billion dollars causing it to plummet even more. Elon won. Then 4D chess, if their stock plummets, he just gets a bunch of Robinhood accounts, buys it up anyway.

Boom, Elon wins. He gets all of their toilet paper shares. But so those of you may be familiar, Vijaya Gade is the woman who was on the Joe Rogan experience with me and Jack Dorsey. And she's breaking down and crying. Many people pointed out the reason she was on that show is she's actually the person behind everything that's been happening at Twitter in terms of all the wokeness, the political manipulation. It's her. She's the one. And now she's crying over this. Look, I'm not here to gloat over the crying. You want to make fun of her for crying and laugh about it? Fine. I'll just point out the crying shows. They know they've lost. This is a major

moment. It reminds me of when the Google employees had their big open house or the big meeting after Trump won, and they were all crying and worried and the tremendous angst that they expressed about their role in allowing Trump to win and defeat Hillary Clinton. And we saw them respond and react. What I'm wondering about is what's going to happen in the Twitter world at the business, because there's going to be a resistance there, I think, to what Elon Musk wants to do. The culture is so ingrained with the wokeness there from the bottom and the top. And we saw with the attorney crying here. How do you say her name again?

Vijaya Gade. I can't try that one. That's too hard for me. But it's an example of what he's going to face with the personnel there and the wokeness. And he's going to face a resistance like President Trump faced with the administrative state. Well, then the first thing you do is fire Vajaya. And then everyone else is going to bow. Well, that's what Trump should have done with a lot of people in the first place.

He should have terminated some of these people. And he loves saying you're fired. It's shocking that he didn't. But there's civil protections on many of the government employees, right? On some of them, but there were a lot of them. And the national security staff, we should have let a lot of people go right away. We had a lot of political appointees that were allowed to hang on. Elon Musk can walk in and say you're fired.

Yes, he can. He owns it outright. It's remarkable seeing some of these people, they really don't understand anything about work or companies. Because some of these lefties are like, Elon Musk is, you know, I'm losing a bunch of followers. Elon Musk is causing a lot of damage to the shareholders. And it's just like, you realize he bought the company at 100%. There's no shareholders anymore. It's just him. He's happy with it.

I hope people understand that if you're crying about the new boss that's coming in, he's going to fire you if he finds that out. No, yeah, exactly. I was just thinking that. It's remarkable how dumb and even really unemployable these people are outside of any kind of environment where they're being catered to by their higher ups. The fact that somebody takes over the company that you're working for and you immediately start publicly trash talking them is so ridiculous. It's like they've never had another job in their lives. What your job is is to find out where the boss wants to go, help him get there. If there are problems in his way, identify what those problems are and help mitigate those. Give him a pathway. You're supposed to be part of a team. And if you're not going to row the oars in the direction the new boss wants to go, you have an obligation to resign.

Seamus, this probably is their first job. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. A lot of these people probably got masters or something, got out of college at 24 and then applied at Twitter, and it's the first place they've ever worked. They probably view Twitter as a home. Yeah, something like that. Well, and I've sort of joked about this in the past,

but it's part of why we live in such a bizarre world where conservative people are afraid to voice their own opinions and signal the fact that they're on the right, and left-wing people are very comfortable doing so at their jobs. Because when you state you're a left-wing individual of this brand of progressivism all you're doing is advertising the fact that you're unemployable and yet it seems as if employers are fine like what are you going to do if you get rid of all the conservatives fire everyone who shows up on time and fire everyone who cares about doing the job fire everyone who

doesn't have an entitlement complex i'm pretty sure political protections political discrimination only exists in washington d. for the most part. I mean, maybe there are some smaller jurisdictions, but D.C. protects political affiliation as a protected class. Makes sense. If you're forced to go live in D.C., at least partially because you're in Congress or whatever, having someone say we don't serve Republicans is a huge problem. Outside of there, I'm pretty sure if you went to a company and said that you are a leftist, they could be like, we're not hiring you. Or if you were in the middle of your job and said you are a leftist or a conservative, they could be like, you're fired

for that reason. Yeah. Well, it's an interesting point too, because you could have a particular business that has to service a market. So for example, if you were doing something like producing conservative content, you probably wouldn't want to hire left-wing people. And it would be bizarre if there was a law requiring you to do so. I don't think that hiring anybody that's political makes sense. If someone comes in and they're like, I identify, get out identity politics person. Well, hold on there. Gender identity is protected. That's, that's pretty insane. In my opinion, sometimes weird thing to bring up a job interview, decide what what your gender is and then have that protected is insane. I understand immutable characteristics that you didn't choose, but if it's gender that you get to pick, that's weird.

And in New York, gender identity is described in law as self-expression. Yeah, that's – Which self-expression is not – that defies corporate logic. We've talked about this. It's – there is no black and white approach to upholding civil rights. It's always a gradient because everything is connected to everything else. There's this idea that exists among many traditional or classical liberals where it's like, if we enshrine in law that men and women shall be treated equally, we're done. We've done it.

We have equal rights. And then someone says, okay, they're treated equally. What does that mean? Well, it means you can't discriminate against them based on their biological sex. It's like, okay, well, this bathroom says women only. You mean I'm not allowed to go in it because I'm biologically male? Well, that's discriminating, isn't it? It literally is in law. In which case, then you have judges say, okay, well, there's an exemption in that one. Like we didn't mean that. You didn't? What happens is a generation goes by and people don't know what you actually meant. All that matters is what's written down in law. And you get textualists

who then just say, it says you can't do it. That's where we're at now. The 1964 Civil Rights Act meant some very obvious things. Provide service to people. Don't kick them out because of these characteristics. Now it's being challenged across the board. So what ends up happening is you had that, I think it was a Supreme Court case where they tried arguing that – I think this is what happened, right? Gender identity was considered the same thing as sexuality in some court case. Yes, that's correct. And they're not, but the court said so. And so I think that's what brought us to where we are now. One thing led to another because everything is interconnected. It's not a slippery slope. It's just dominoes falling over. The next thing that's going to happen is in New York where they say gender identity is just self-expression. Well, they have to do that because what are they really protecting when they protect gender identity? If you are biologically male and want to wear a dress and call yourself Susan, that's what they're protecting.

But what's the difference between calling yourself Susan in a dress and calling yourself Volsiferon, Herald of the Winter Mists, while wearing a fursuit? Literally nothing except for the cultural interpretation. But if a judge can say one set of clothing is protected and another isn't based on his personal interpretation, then you're going to get a whole bunch of challenges. Now, judges are supposed to interpret the law, but the next step will be in 20 years, they're going to say the law says my self-expression. That means I want to go to work as Volsiferon. You think it's going to take a whole 20 years for that? No, no, no. Not at all. But actually, I think it might be reversing.

I mean, look at what's going on with Twitter. These people are crying. They've lost. This mission that they've been on. Well, I'm not sure they've lost yet. No, I mean this portion of it. They're losing. There's good news, okay?

And I think we have good reason to be hopeful for what Twitter could become. And it was really quite bad. Okay. And it wasn't doing that well as a business, was it? $5 billion in revenues. It wasn't profitable. 113 million active followers. Well, I think they got up to 212 million. At one time. Yeah.

At one time. But the latest, according to Epoch Times, is $113 million. If that's true, their stock was about to plummet. Right. And so the people that work for Twitter should look at Elon Musk as a savior because the business model was not working the way these guys had been running it. I just did some math at At 7,500 plus employees, imagining that they're making $75,000 a year, they're probably making more than that.

It's more than half a billion dollars a year in just in employee salaries. That's way, way, way too much for a company that's only pulling in $5 billion. I mean, I guess a fifth of your revenue is... I haven't worked at enough companies to know if that's – that just sounds like way too much expenditure on employees. And for a company that can send its people remote, it doesn't make – I've got to look at the business plan. I want to just say when we're talking about jobs, I think Vijayagade, the top censorship advocate at Twitter, who famously gaslit the world on Joe Rogan's podcast and censored the Hunter Biden laptop story, is very upset about the Elon Musk takeover.

Elon Musk responded, suspending the Twitter account of a major news organization for publishing a truthful story was obviously incredibly inappropriate. Absolutely. I can't imagine Elon Musk as the owner of this company is going to go in there and be like, I'm going to keep this person. In fact, he's probably going to go in there and say, you caused the bulk of the problem. So thank you for your time and you're free to go. So Derek, I'm curious as someone who has worked in the White House and some pretty high levels within government, how is social media viewed or discussed at that level, if at all? That's a good question.

It is discussed a lot. And how to navigate it, if you're in the Trump White House, the stories, the media, and the way big media, mainstream media, integrated itself with the narratives of social media. And we see today that, you know, CNN was actively coordinating with, you know, people that were behind the Russia hoax to get the narrative right and to expand on it. You know, we worried about it a lot. Most of us were looking at the social media impact as a national level of influence for overseas because I dealt mostly in the foreign policy world,

and what we could learn from social media, from looking at social media accounts in Ukraine or the Middle East or what ISIS was posting. So there's different ways of looking at it. From my perspective, it was as an intelligence tool to get insights into groups, organizations, and people. Do you think this is part of why the Taliban was allowed to be on Twitter while Trump was banned? Well, you look at Khomeini and leaders of the Qods Force being on Twitter

and the measures that they were taking and what they were calling for, violence against Israel, violence against other people, calling out for the death of President Trump. And they were not shut down. They were not banned. So the hypocrisy of the leadership of Twitter, and when they talk about values and threats of violence, they never followed up their words with actions

in exercising their leadership in an unbiased way. They never did. And that's part of the reason they've had so many problems. And they lost so many followers from 214 million to 113 active users. Let's talk about some weird going on. Weird, weird goings on. We have this tweet from Tyler Carditis. Tyler is the CEO of Blaze Media.

And he says, definitely something bizarre happening with the Twitter algorithm impacting follower counts over the past 24 to 48 hours. A few examples. Tucker Carlson is up 62,000. Rogan, 63. Trump Jr., 87. And Ted Cruz is up 51,000. However, by contrast, Rachel Maddow is down 18. Anderson Cooper is down

10. AOC is down 27. Kamala Harris, 22. Hillary Clinton, 17. What's going on? He goes into mention Tulsi Gabbard is up. Rand Paul is up. Ilhan Omar is down. Here's my response. So Tucker gained 62,000 followers in half a day. He lost 50 followers yesterday. This is not people coming back. News broke yesterday. Something effed up is happening. Now, a lot of people responded saying my account was inactive or I just started a new account. If you did not log into your account and then you log in, that's not making a new account. Like that's not making a new account. You're not all of a sudden now following me for the first time. If you were already following me, you just didn't use your account. It existed. I had the follower. Correct. This is new followers on his account. Tell me

this. When the news broke yesterday morning that Elon Musk was set to finish this deal with Twitter, why then didn't people sign up? Maybe they said, no, no no i will only sign up once i hear the news okay why didn't they sign up at 2 53 p.m when the news broke that elon had secured the deal why did they wait until the very next day to start signing up tucker carlson lost 50 followers yesterday he gained 62 000 today something does not sense. You guys put it in my mind that there's some nefarious stuff going on behind the scenes where they're like, well, better undo that black list algorithm that we had going in secret so that no one finds out. And now it's just, this is the recalibration. I mean, it's total speculation. I have no idea what's happening right now.

Well, I think it's, we have to speculate. And I think the issue is we're not going to be able to understand what's going on until there's someone inside. The Elon Musk team gets in there and asks the questions, and hopefully the records are preserved. The algorithms and what they're doing are preserved. And one can go back and look at, was there shadow banning? How many bots were there? How many of the bots were following a congresslady or a senator? Yeah, it's real tempting as a social media network to count the bots as people that are logging in every day.

Have those one point. How many did you say millions of people log in a day? Ten million. One hundred and thirteen. One hundred and thirteen. How many of those are bots? Twitter is not going to go out of its way to hunt them down and eradicate them. They're going to let those numbers stand for so that they can get a better investment.

Interesting. I want to highlight a few posts, though. There's a possibility. This is something not nefarious. It's interesting. One person said, no, people are just reactivating their accounts because they want to neener over the meltdowns. Good point. It may actually be that many people deactivated their twitters and have all reacted

reactivated them right now because you know they want to be on twitter but hold on someone else said speaking for myself i am back for the first time since 2018 my phone number was banned from creating an account until yesterday so somebody tweeted saying that they were banned until yesterday here's another one matt matt ftm says I was finally just allowed to tweet and use the platform two days ago after being permabanned for four years. I assume I'm not the only one who was sidelined for having too few followers to make noise. Starting over fresh now, though, and not going anywhere. Several posts, I've seen this.

I retweeted someone. A lot of people all of a sudden are saying, I was banned and now I'm allowed back on the platform. So, yes, it seems like maybe there's a mix. But here's why I don't think it's just conservatives coming back and reactivating their accounts. It means simultaneously and by perfect, perfect physics, the left is deactivating as the right reactivates. I have seen evidence of that. I went on Facebook for all my friends from LA who are actors out there, and man, they

are deleting their Twitters. They are all up in arms about it. I've deleted my Twitter yesterday. I'm done with Twitter. They are. No more Twitter for me. So they're actually deleting it. They're not just saying they're going to.

What happens if you delete it from your iPhone? Well, if you delete the app, you still have the account. If you delete your account, that's a different story. That probably removes the follower number. I don't know. I'm wondering how many are actually removing their account. They might not want to be active, but they want to sort of follow. And Sean King, he

deleted his account, but then reinstantiated it. Deactivated it. And then reactivated it later. All the media reported he deactivated it. He was off the platform. And then he came back like, no, I didn't. I didn't do that. did so so maybe maybe it really is that simple that the people on the left are like haramfi saying they're leaving but elon musk didn't do anything but he doesn't even own the platform yet they say they're going to canada but they never go to canada yeah right they'll be back i wonder if we could find out how many of these followers like rachel maddow

hillary clinton it was the same person following all those five accounts, and they had one person left, so it looks like five followers were lost. Well, that's why it's not relevant. I'm not adding up all the numbers. I'm doing them individually, like Tucker gained 62,000. You think 62,000? So, look, I don't buy it. You mean to tell me that yesterday, when the news broke that Elon did this,

50 people were like, I'm quitting and deactivating my account. I wonder if he was shadow banned and those people have been trying to follow him, but it never was reflected in the numbers. Here's one possibility. People on the left followed Tucker Carlson. And so 3,000 leftists quit and 2,950 conservatives joined. So it's a negative 50 number. Maybe.

I don't think the left follows Tucker Carlson because we know this from Vijay Agade. Leftists don't follow conservative journalists. Conservatives do follow left-wing journalists. So it seems unlikely. I look at this. Yesterday, conservatives were deactivating their accounts. They don't buy it. I think people are mentioning they were unbanned for the first time. I think Elon Musk is going to walk in the doors and there's going to be something within the system of Twitter that

is so obvious and overtly political bias, they got rid of it. They said, get rid of it. The new guy's coming in. And if he sees that, we're in trouble. And imagine what the press is going to be. Preserve the evidence. Well, they have until October to finish the deal. Yeah, I know. And it's going to be very hard. I'm definitely very interested to see what it is.

At the very least, this is exposed. What we are already knew and we all already said and which has been exposed a million times before, but basically that these people are weak and they're cowardly you know twitter was actively censoring conservatives and conservatives were still staying it's not even as if elon has come and said we're going to instantiate a policy of censoring left-wing people they've just said they're going to stop censoring conservatives and they're like i can't be here for. That's the amazing thing people pointed out, that Elon Musk is not saying he's going to wield power against Democrats. He's simply saying Twitter will stop putting the boot on conservatives.

And so they're all freaking out. But liberals, like you said, do not want to read or listen to alternative points of view, even if they're evidence-based. Conservatives tend to look at a wider cross-section of information. They get blamed all the time for, oh, you only get your news from Fox News. That's the farthest thing from the case because most everyone I know, and I think you know too, and the evidence bears it out even by Twitter's own people, conservatives tend to look at other sources of information

that are not confirmation bias-based. Yeah, I mean, there have been studies about this that we've talked about before on this show, that conservatives are more likely to understand left-wing positions than left-wingers are to understand conservative positions. But I think it even goes deeper than that. As a very wise left-wing liberal arts major told me when i was in college when you're used to a position of privilege equality feels like oppression well that's

what's happening to them on twitter they're finally getting a taste of some small iota of potential equality somewhere down the line and they are losing their minds. So I'm just trying to – we've got breaking news coming in, but, madam, we've got too much going on. That was brilliant, by the way. Oh, thank you. Thank you. Yeah, so, sorry, I was checking important Veritas information. You were just saying a bunch of awesome stuff.

Oh, thank you. Oh, my gosh, this is my best episode. Let's just keep – let's stay on this topic. All right. Continue. Well, no, I mean, I'm all I was hoping you wouldn't call me out like that. Like I'm out of insights. That's it for the night. One of the things you were saying is about conservatism looking outside the box, kind of taking in about I think that the scientific method is actually a very conservative function. And it's kind of the basis of modern science. There's other types of science that aren't the scientific method. I don't even know if I'd come up with one off the top of my head.

But to say, like, it feels like it should be this way, so let's just assume it's going to be like that. That seems like what you would say is the liberal mind right now, unfortunately. Being a little extreme, taking risks, unnecessary risks, violates the entire scientific method where you just try and disprove yourself and have humility. Well, it just reminds me of something Secretary Rumsfeld said about the known knowns, the known unknowns, and then the unknown unknowns.

Okay. And conservatives tend to be, in my view, more exploratory. Yeah, I think liberals are driven by emotion. Well, and we've talked about this. You use this phrase a lot. The left sees that or believes that there is no truth but power. And so it doesn't matter what the actual scientific consensus is on something. It doesn't matter what the evidence says or what makes sense.

What matters is what will get me more powerful, will get me what I want. And if something comes up, like in climate science, that challenges their dogma, they attack it. They don't want to understand it. They don't look at the evidence and try to parse it out. They want to attack it, deny it, and go after the person and discredit them. Yeah, exactly. And even there, whenever they have a statistic that sounds like it would support their case, they completely distort it. So when they say things like 97% of climate scientists agree that humans are responsible in some way for climate change, what they're leaving out is 97% of climate scientists did not say we need a green new deal or that the world is going to end in 10 years or that it's catastrophic. But that's all assumed when they say 97% of climate scientists agree

with our narrative, but it's not the case. So Twitter banned ads that go against their narrative on climate change. That's overtly political. The ads themselves aren't gruesome or offensive or objectionable. They're just politically objectionable if you have the wrong opinion. This company was overtly biased.

The left just lies and pretends it's not. And they manipulate people and it works. So when I talk to people like Stephen Marsh, for instance, who was a good dude, came on the show. He's like, oh, I'm just looking at things from above. I'm not on either side. But his worldview is influenced by manipulation and deception coming from the left.

And he doesn't even know about things like Joe and Hunter Biden sharing a bank account. It's like, well, you're not in the middle, dude. You're on the left. You're not doing the research. And he's like, I did the research. I'm like, yeah, I get it. You're doing research on like polls and studies, but you didn't know that, that Joe Biden, Hunter Biden shared a bank account. Now, when I say that they call me right

wing for saying it when it's a fact, not an opinion, but let's, let's jump over to this. We've got breaking news. So I was actually, this, this is why I got distracted because I had, I'd got a notification on my phone. We have this from the Hodge twins. It's actually a Veritas video breaking leaked audio of Twitter. All hands reveals employees press leadership over what free speech means. A plan for mass exodus due to Elon Musk questionable ethics and questioning if President Trump will return to the platform. Shout out to James O'Keefe and Project Veritas. Elon Musk, you need to reinstate them immediately as soon as you gain control of the company.

Let's play this video and see what's going on. Mr. Musk, plan on dealing with a mass exodus. Considering acquisition is by a person with questionable ethics. The question of attrition, you know, as Parag stated, you know, one of the themes of today is continuity and ensuring that Parag and his leadership team continues to operate the business successfully on behalf of our users, on behalf of our customers. And that has obviously been a big topic of discussion at the board. And as I mentioned, an area that is important to Elon Musk as well, because of the importance of Twitter as a service. With no board in place, who will

keep Elon accountable and how? Elon made it clear in public that a large part of the reason he bought the platform was because of our moderation policies and disagreements in how we deal with health. This puts Twitter service and trust and safety as well as anybody who cares about health on the platform in a very difficult position. Twitter service, the role of our policies and the capabilities we've built around content moderation are fundamental to keeping Twitter safe and growing. I believe that there is a lot of work we have to do to continue making that better. I want to pause real quick in the middle. We've got another minute, but I just want to point out conservatives are willing to stay on the platform when they're getting censored and the left is getting away with it. The left is

unwilling to stay on the platform if conservatives aren't getting censored. So Twitter saw the formula. You can ban a conservative and most conservatives stay. You ban a liberal. They freak out and revolt. Only ban the conservatives. This is evidenced by the fact that by sheer fear that Elon might bring Trump back, they're leaving the platform. I say it this way. When you had the weak parent in charge of Twitter and the little kid was screaming, I want an ice cream cone or I'll hold my breath. Twitter's Parag Agrawal and Vijay Gade were like, okay, okay, just stop screaming and I'll give you the ice cream. Elon Musk is the dad being like, okay, go hold your breath outside and I'll have the ice cream inside.

You're not getting ice cream, but let's play more. And now they're going, I'm running away from home. And he's like, good, bye. Yeah. Here we go. Sometimes that means more thoughtful moderation. Sometimes that means making things simpler. Sometimes that means changing product incentives

to be able to solve problems through products sometimes instead of policies. During the last all hands, you said that you trust Elon Musk. The correct quote was, we trust him. So who is we? And talking to Elon, what made you trust him? And based on the conversation I had with him when we were excited to have him join our board. That was because as a major shareholder and an opinionated user, we wanted that voice in our boardroom so that we could learn. Is there an updated understanding

on what free speech means? The question behind the question here, which is where might Twitter's product go as a private company in the future once this deal closes. To best gain perspective on this, as I said earlier, we'll find ways to bring Elon for a Q&A with all of you to understand better what his vision for the future of Twitter might look like. I wouldn't say anything outright or overtly crazy other than these people are blind, completely

clueless, and they're right. Elon joining the board was an opinionated outside perspective that would help them, but they blocked him. So him coming in and just saying, I'm taking it over, good. Shake it up a little bit. They have ideological blinders. They talk about moderation policies. They don't have moderation policies. They have extremist policies that are driven by censorship of views that they don't like. They talk about

safety, but almost all their rules on safety dealing with the COVID outbreak turned out the science wasn't on their side over time. Drugs that they said didn't work actually worked. The CDC was wrong on masks. The CDC was wrong on the effects of the immunizations on people. We have to be a little specific, though. I think the issue is that Twitter decided one doctor was better than another doctor. Correct. When they shouldn't be doing that.

YouTube takes a similar position in that YouTube's decided the same doctors that Twitter sided with are the correct doctors, and this is the problem. YouTube, you are not correct. However, I will say, on the mask thing, in what context were you referring to the CDC mask things? They were first saying masks aren't needed right and then they don't work and then they said they're needed and then we found out that the masks were not effective against the size of the the virus but but it is and then it evolved up and down over time okay so it was just strange and it lost a lot of confidence of people in the CDC on that issue. I think the most important point is that early on, Twitter was on the side of don't discuss lab leak theory.

And they were also on the side of when Dr. Fauci came out in March of 2020 saying don't wear masks, Twitter was on his side. And he was wrong about that. He came back out later and says, okay, maybe you should wear masks and Twitter just flips with him. I'm like, you cannot build confidence with people if you can't give them a cohesive set of instructions on what the plan is. They would just come out and say, oh, well, the science changed. OK, well, I think I don't know where we're at with the pandemic. YouTube has goofy rules. I think it's fair to say in addressing those goofy rules, masks stop you from spitting on people. So they have a certain degree of effectiveness. Okay. So the sanitation issue, it turns out that getting it

from touching something, okay, you have a one in 10,000 chance of it being transmissible, okay, if you touch a contaminated surface. But we were first told that if you touch a surface, you have a high chance of getting it and everyone was cleansing everything people were cleaning the canned goods coming back from the grocery store based upon cdc guidance it turned out that was wrong it created hysteria subway cars were being sanitized every day multiple times but it wasn it wasn't necessary. Yeah, this is, from this conversation, the obsession with health and the obsession with safety is really disturbing. It sounds like rhetoric, and maybe this isn't the conversation to have the ethical conversation, but compared to the board meetings we would have at Mines and the conversations, this is complete insane rhetoric where you're like, yo, if you're going

to spin this word around the house like this, you better, let's talk about what it means. Amen. Let's come back to one point she said on there. Free speech. What does free speech mean? Free speech means free speech except yelling fire in a movie theater, right? You're allowed to do that. You're allowed to do that.

You're allowed to yell fire in a movie theater. If it's empty. No. No, you're allowed. But you can be punished for it. No, you can't can't oh so this was actually reversed i think in like 1968 so it's brandenburg v ohio i think okay the the initial ruling in the early 1900s was that well you can't yell fire in a crowded theater and the supreme court overruled that saying yeah you can yeah you actually can do that can you go into a restaurant be like there's rats all over the place

and then everyone runs out of the restaurant and doesn't come back? That's not a criminal issue. That's a civil tort issue for you, Lyman. Same with fire? Yeah, you'd probably get sued by the business, but it's not a matter of law. It's not a matter of criminal law. But let's go back. She's a

leader at the organization, I assume, and she's saying, well, what is free speech? Well, this was her. She was relaying a question from employees. So the woman was getting questions and she was asking the CEO. It's indicative that they still don't know what it is, if they're still asking the question.

Also, I believe when Oliver Wendell Holmes said, you can't shout fire in a crowded theater, he was using that as a justification for censoring people who were protesting the First World War. Yeah. Yeah, and that got overturned, I think, in 1968 crowded theater. He was using that as a justification for censoring people who were protesting the First World War. Yeah. Yeah, and that got overturned, I think, in 1968. Yeah.

So they'd go into a theater and yell just to get people riled up? No, no. So they were not actually... He was using it as an analogy. They were passing out flyers that protested the First World War. And they ruled that

you shouldn't be able to do that. And his justification is, well, you can't yell fire in a crowded theater, so you can't do this either. Some people are pointing out that Parag Agrawal was not born in the United States. And so the CEO who is dictating our speech, that's very problematic that someone who isn't from this country. My response to that is Elon Musk was also not born in this country and would also be dictating speech in this country. So yeah, either way, you've got that problem. So is it an issue?

I suppose the issue is, are our values being upheld? And Twitter, you know what I think Twitter is? It is, you guys ever play the game Life Genesis on old Windows 95? Negative. You don't remember that one? Mm-mm. So it's a bunch of little dots, little squares, pixels that interact with each other in unique ways, and it creates patterns based on certain rules.

And in the version I had, you had two colors. Basically, if you have 100 blue pixels and you drop one red into it, the red gets engulfed instantly. It just becomes blue. That's what Twitter is. Twitter is 98.7% Democrat voting, Democrat donating. Anybody who goes in there and is conservative is crushed instantly. Their ideas don't make it anywhere.

You're not going to be sitting in a Twitter meeting and they say, how do we deal with this problem of harassment and be the lone conservative being like, it's not harassment. What are you talking about? You're going to keep your mouth shut because you're one out of 30 people and you know they'll harass you. They'll take your job from you. So you do nothing. All of the policies then start moving further and further to the left and going insane his mouth on the end of it and started eating the refuse he created. I know it's a crass way to describe it, but this is what happened. People went on Twitter, started saying insane things to get traffic. The more insane they got, the more Jack himself was surrounded by the insanity that he had welcomed. So what happens then is I'm sitting down with Jack and Vajaya and Joe Rogan. And I said,

yeah, your rules are overtly biased. Your rules outright. And Jack says, no, they're not. And I was like, you have a misgendering policy. You can't see that that is an outright biased rule that conservatives are are confused by. And he was like, but we're trying to help people who might be suicidal. And I'm like, you're not helping body dysmorphic people. You're not helping transracial people. No, you live in a bubble. You live in a bubble you can't see out of.

So you've enacted policies that are insane to the average person. And that's for a minuscule percentage of the population. You're changing all the norms for a minority of a minority of the population. But we're talking specifically, I would say the minority is the leftists. It's not even, Blair White is a trans person. Blair White doesn't agree with what these people are saying. It's not even an issue of,

in my opinion, trans issues. It's an issue of ideology. So what happens is you have white progressive liberals who claim everyone else is racist. They claim Candace Owens is a white supremacist. They claim Larry Elder is the black face of white supremacy. It is their fringe ideology that is dominating and getting these rules made. It's not even an issue of are black

people upset over racism? Yes, many are, but they're not the ones enacting these changes. They're not the ones going into Twitter and demanding Twitter do these things for them. Some activists are, some aren't. It is this weird fringe cult that is going in and making rules for everybody else while believing that they're the white saviors. And you also have the issue of the trans agenda, which is trying to groom

people that have dysphoria or issues or might be migrating to being actually gay and say, you're not actually gay. You are trans and you need surgery and you need but again though that that's white progressive women doing that correct yeah it's not so so you know a lot of people bring up the idea of like a trans agenda or whatever and i'll say okay in the context that doesn't refer to an individual who is transgender it refers to the cult because when

you see a video of a white liberal woman who is a straight married woman, but she's talking about how she wants to teach kids these things, it's an issue of the cult. White, weird, progressive, fringe politics. I believe social media has wrapped them into a bubble of insanity where they push policies that regular people think are insane. I want to make it possible I'm being pedantic with myself here. I want to make a slight correction. The 1919 court case we were referring to about yelling fire in a private theater, it wasn't even the person protesting the First World War. I looked it up to double check.

They were just protesting the draft in the First World War. So it's even worse than that. But I wanted to point that out. Sam, I hear what you're saying, but I think it's fair to call it the trans agenda because even though not every single person who's considered to be transgender is on board with it, it seems to be how they're unified and behaving as a political force. That's what I'm saying. If you're saying it's an agenda to encourage transgender or gender ideology, sure.

If you're saying it's a trans agenda as if transgender people are the ones behind it, I would say I disagree with that because, for one, the transgender community is very, very small. And if you go on Twitter and if you look at these videos, it is typically like white liberal women. However, there are many non-binary individuals who are advocating for this stuff, too. I'm not saying they're not. I'm just saying I think it's important to call out the ideology while recognizing we're friends with Blair White who's amazing and doesn't agree with them. We also have a similar situation with white liberals, male and female, pushing the immigration agenda that is not the dominant

theme or the dominant issue for the Hispanic community in this country regardless if they're from South America, Cuba, Puerto Rico, or any place else, okay? It's being pushed by the white liberals. And I should mention this. Of the Hispanic people I have met who are legal immigrants, they are not fans of illegal immigration. So the idea that this is an issue that is being pushed by Hispanic voters as a block is ridiculous. You're right. Very often it's just it's white liberals who want

to pat themselves on the back. Virtue signaling. Or big businesses that want cheap labor. Well, let's talk about what the next step is, because my friends, if you thought Elon Musk was going to save you, I'm sorry. We may have won a battle. I tell you this moment is like the battle for Helm's Deep. And we made one last ride. And then up in the in the break of dawn, we saw Elon Musk, the white wizard coming to our rescue. But the war is not over. We still have to get the one ring of censorship to Mount Doom. And what's happening now is the Biden administration is calling for Section 230 reform. Obama has called for more regulations on speech. You've got Ed Markey calling for algorithmic justice, he called it. Lawmakers are calling for greater oversight of social media.

According to the White House, Biden has long argued that tech platforms must be held accountable. When they lose in the private sector, where they've controlled the narrative for so long, they are falling back to the public sector and they're going to try to use government as their cudgel to beat people down and maintain that narrative. So battle may be won, but we must get the ring of censorship to Mount Doom. Yeah. So when Biden says they need to be held accountable for the harms they caused, do you think he might be referring to the fact that they suppressed a true story about his son, which in part contributed to him being elected as president of the United States? Well, they're losing that power.

Elon Musk publicly comes out and says they should not have done that. And Joe Biden's like, oh, geez, man, how am I going to win 2024? Come on, man. Come on, man. I can't win an election without big tech censoring people and shutting down conversations around what my kid does. Ask Time Magazine. I can't.

I can't. What am I going to do? What's their oversight that they want to create? It's nebulous. Oh, geez. But they're like, we can't allow disinformation. I don't think they'll win. Well, but they've already, I mean, they've already started doing this.

Remember, they were telling large social media platforms that they had to censor certain information surrounding COVID-19. And they did. Yeah. And we saw that it wasn't like media companies getting a subsidy on like vaccine issues or something like that. Absolutely right. When, when, what did we see?

The Democratic Party went to Twitter, I think it was, saying certain people should be banned. And it was, we had Tom Fitton just the other day who was talking about that. So, right, right, right. There was some kind of expose they did where the Democrats were actually sending messages like, hey, get rid of these people. The coordination between the White House and the tech media companies has been, I think, eye-opening and it's scary. And the collaboration and the coordination between the two is what McCarthy should investigate if they get the majority. And they're going to need subpoenas, and they're going to need preservation of record requests,

and those should go out now. And it's going to be very hard, even if you have an aggressive Republican leadership in the House of Representatives, to get after this because you're going to face resistance, delays, stalling tactics from the administration and the White House, the executive privilege issues, all of that, and they'll try to run out the clock. But they have to go after it. You have to begin the fight. And just like with putting up your billboard, Tim, you have to fight. You have to

let them know there's going to be a cost. You have to give an example to others. Our base needs it, okay? People need the example to stand up and fight and go to meetings and participate in the democracy. And they need to see their leaders standing up. I don't think Kevin McCarthy is going to do anything. I don't disagree with him. Just ran in his parade over here. Well, there's hope, but there's also hope that one could get a different leader.

That's what we need. We need a Speaker Trump. That's what we need. We need a Speaker Trump, maybe. Who are they going to vote for? I have the greatest speaker. I'd like to ask you something. So I'm really curious about how new this relationship between the White House and these large social media companies is. Was there any inkling when you were in the White House that things like this

had been occurring under the Obama administration prior to Trump taking power? Absolutely right. Ben Rhodes talked about how foolish the mainstream media is and the tech leadership. He had that he could manipulate them, and he made fun of them in private. It came out, and he was embarrassed by that. But the key issue is that he was facilitating and coordinating this with daily messaging for coordinating the White House messages. And the CNNs and the MSNBCs, but also the social media, lapped it up.

So we had that beginning in the Obama administration. I'd say previously you also had it, but it wasn't as coordinated or as effective as we saw with the advent of social media really growing during the Obama years. I mean, it's 12 years ago, 14 years ago now, right? So things have moved along quite quickly. I think we've got real problems here, and I think we're going to have to begin the turn. The turn is possible, but it's going to take aggressive oversight.

It's probably going to take another executive leader like a Trump or a DeSantis or someone to come in and put some teeth in DOJ and SEC and the Federal Communications Administration to get after this in a way that will level the playing field. You got to change the culture in these industries and that comes with the green i think money drained the swamp yeah yes but you look at what happens to robbie starbuck do you hear about what happened to him in tennessee no they kicked him off the primary the republican party did they said he wasn't a real republican it's the dude is more like one of the most republican republicans there. That should be challenged in court because I think it's violating a number of laws, I mean constitutional requirements here to drop someone off running in the primary race there in Tennessee.

I read something about it. I don't remember exactly what the story was, but it appeared that it's an overreach by the Republican Party there. But it's the establishment going after the base of the party. Yep. If we're going to actually see any changes in November, if the Republicans are going to win, there has to be a wave of populist, America First type Republicans who win. But if the Republican Party itself is rejecting these candidates and trying to keep them out, then why would I bother voting for a Republican? Well, we have a lot of wins.

We've seen that in Michigan and other places. And it looks like it's going to be good in Georgia and it's going to be good in North Carolina. And I think we're not in too fair for me to say that until the Republican Party itself, at the national level, comes down on Tennessee with an iron fist, weeding out the corruption and condemning the actions in booting Robbie Starbuck off, we should advocate that everyone tells the Republican Party to go screw themselves. I'm not going to vote. I'm not voting for Republicans until they make that move and restore Robbie Starbuck.

Because I'm not going to be party to corruption. If they want to play stupid, pathetic, dirty games, if the Republicans of West Virginia, of Maryland, at the national level, will not come out and condemn this, I'll tell you this, if they condemn it, I'm good. Well, in Maryland, right here where we're at,

the state Republican Party is trying to pressure county committees of the Republican Party to not support Dan Cox in the governor's race. Okay. That's Governor Hogan, okay, trying to stack the deck in favor of his chosen successor against a real conservative who's been endorsed by President Trump. So, well, elaborate on this. Tell us more about what's going on. Well, what they're trying to do is influence every county. Every county in Maryland has a committee of Republican leaders, and they are elected,

and if there's a replacement needed, they're appointed, and it's approved by the governor. And they're very important in county politics. And they're pressuring them to not provide any support. That means organizing help for the campaign at the grassroots level and disincentivizing people from doing that as individuals too. And that could stack the deck. Now, I think the reaction is going to be in places like Garrett and Allegheny County and Washington County

and others that are basically conservative in Trump territory. It's not going to work at all. When you say that they're pressuring them, what is an example of that kind of pressure? Withholding support, denying them access. They're not going to get benefits of being part of the larger state operation. Is that not blackmail? Call it what you will.

It's politics. It is politics. The establishment, be it Republican or Democrat, are happy to see the Republicans fail and lose if it means populists, people like Trump, and people who like Trump don't win. So what's the solution? I don't know. I genuinely think, you know, do I think that Lindsey Graham cares at all?

No. He high fives. He fist bumped Kamala Harris. He does not care. He is a crony establishment shill. We did it, Lindsey. Yeah. So is Kevin McCarthy.

So was Mitch McConnell. They're all terrible. The Republican Party is despised by so many people in this country. And it's sad because there are good. There are more good Republicans than good Democrats. But the Republican Party is just run by pure corruption. The Democrats are too, don't get me wrong. The Chamber of Commerce Republican elite, okay, and I call it the uniparty elite because there's not that much difference.

George Wallace once said there's not a dime worth of difference between the leadership of the republican and democratic party that was back in 1968 or 72 something like that that's ancient history for most people but that's what was said and it's more true today than back then okay the uniparty elite is sold out to china the chamber of commerce supports both of them. Leadership and banks and venture capital, they give big money to victory funds for Republicans at the senior level. They give the same kind of money to the Democrats because it's all about the green for them and feathering their nest. Yeah. I quote this every now and again on the show, but it's called Woods' Law from Tom Woods.

Whoever you vote for, you end up getting John McCain. And it's true that in terms of the actual party platforms, yes, the parties are different. I certainly don't agree that they're identical, but I completely agree with you that at the level of leadership, they're pretty much all in bed together. I do want to at least talk about a reason why you should vote against democrats not that i think it's perfect to vote for republicans but we have this story from timcast.com amazon leadership held a session to discuss matt walsh's best-selling

children's book johnny the walrus being problematic a customer said that it's teaching kids to kill and bully transgender people what this is matt walsh's book. This is Amazon being insane and going over the top. Now, there's not much to say beyond this. We know Amazon does this. We know who they are. That's the news. My point is,

the reason why I would like to vote for a Republican is to get rid of this stuff. I want school boards to say, look, we don't want critical praxis in our schools. What does the left say? Republicans are banning math. And this works because there are people who just watch CNN. They believe it.

And then I'll respond and say, nobody banned math. Well, what about Ron DeSantis banning math books? He banned math books that were filled with critical praxis. I don't want books banned. I want curriculum of critical praxis and Christian praxis banned because kids should be taught two plus two equals four. Moving on. If the kid says, I have a question about mommies and daddies, talk to your parents about it. If the kid says, I have a question about my spirituality and my faith, talk to your parents about it.

Keep it out of the schools. Praxis, the implementation of the ideology should be kept out. If those are the rules we're playing by i'm totally fine with it amen man good story what we need is more candidates to step up and run for election that believe in the things that you believe tim that believe that crt in the classroom is wrong we need more people running like the parents in Loudoun County who challenged the school board. We need people to stand up, and we need people to show up to vote. And that's how you take the party back, and that's how you bring real change.

It doesn't happen overnight. It didn't happen overnight for Ronald Reagan, who first made the speech in 1964 in support of Barry Goldwater. It took 20 years. So it's, I have no issue if a school has a book on critical race theory in the school. I have no problem if the school has a Bible in the school. I have no problem if the teachers say, you know, if you go to the library,

you can read the book. I don't care. We don't want to ban those books. You can read it. You can ask questions about it. Well, my issue is with what's called praxis. In this instance, it's not critical race theory. It's critical race applied principles or critical race praxis. The left calls it critical race praxis, which is the implementation

of the ideology and other subjects. An example would be writing a math problem that says, Seamus is a white male who is stopped by police and frisked seven times per year. Andre is a black man who was stopped 247 times per year. What percentage of stops are? So it's supposed to be a math problem, but they inject critical race theory into it, and that's the praxis. Now, we call it critical race applied principles because that spells crap, and we don't want

crap in our schools. But no, in all seriousness, the left doesn't call it critical race praxis which is already three crp which is crap basically well race has an ra in it so you could just call it crap as well well it's just funny how pedantic we have to get about distinguishing between these different forms of left-wing thought which are near identical as conservatives when they just say everyone who disagrees with them is a nazi and that's the one label that they use well the problem i think is they lie all the time yeah and it works yeah look at the story they then lie about uh taylor lorenz a great example she went on cnn and said the right-wing media lies and it's fascinating because that's projection that's always projection it's darvo yeahy, attack, reverse, victim and offender.

It's them who's lying. You can only trust me. It's people like Brian Stelter who tells you not to watch Fox News. Mika Brzezinski is guilty of that, too, explaining that it's her job to tell you what to think. Well, that's our job. And then they denied it later, and then Snopes comes out and says, that's not true. It never happened. Or Joe Biden reaching out to shake the hand of somebody that's not there.

And then Snopes comes out and says, he never did it or what was it what was it snopes i think it was snopes he never actually did it and it's like dude you're fact checking an opinion with your own opinion yeah you're just lying that's that that's what they do it's the game they play and then they come up with something like the 1619 project in new york times and they infuse our schools with it which is an ideologically driven fabrication of American history, especially the founding. The founding fathers, the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, was opposed to slavery. Only two states. Initially. That's right. And the Declaration really did mean all men are created equal. Two states opposed it, Georgia and South Carolina. You had to compromise at that time. The letters, the history really

tells you that it really wasn't based upon slavery or racism, that there was really a movement to move beyond that and oppose slavery. One of the original grievances in the Declaration of Independence was that the king had taken people from their homeland, brought them there against their will, and was using them to wage war against them. Jefferson took that out because the southern states that were pro-slavery would not sign on so long as the other colonists and leaders opposed slavery. Now, they had slaves. And it was bad. A lot of bad things happened. Many countries still have slaves.

It's really, really bad. But that, I think, I don't know if that was the biggest mistake made, but it was a big mistake because that divide, that compromise, it didn't end there. That tacit agreement of, look, we'll overlook this for now

so we can win a revolution and then 80 years later we're in civil war and now you know and then 80 years after that well world war ii but well that's not domestic you ended up with jim crow laws you ended up with the clan you ended up with this conflict that was just seemingly never ending and if you look back at everything we're dealing with today it's all rooted going all the way back to even before this. The problem is they need you to believe that the founding fathers were evil so that they can justify destroying American culture because from the ashes of the old, they will build a new. Correct. They want a completely different system. What they want is a multicultural democracy. People need to understand when Elizabeth Warren comes out and says this is dangerous for our democracy. And these Democrats say this, they are not referring to your country

because you, good sir, watching the show, believe in a constitutional republic, not a democracy. And conservatives say, you're wrong. We're not a democracy. We're a constitutional republic. No, you don't. You misunderstand. They are telling you that there is a new multicultural democracy growing in the united states they're not making mistakes about and they're going after the symbolism they want to invalidate the 4th of july they want to deny its value and they want to move to a june 19th type of celebration that will overshadow the july 4th celebration I do think it's odd that we celebrate the introductions to war so often, like Pearl Harbor,

July 4th, what other days got us into war that we celebrate? I don't know. 9-11? 9-11 was another one. But not celebrate. Well, you could say we observe. We observe and or celebrate. The 4th of July is definitely a celebration. Why don't we celebrate the day that the war ended? Good point.

But July 4th... Veterans Day, right? Veterans Day is the only example I could find. And they changed the name from Armistice Day celebrating the end of the war to Veterans Day celebrating the warriors themselves. But by the way, we were at war for a year before the Declaration of Independence. Technically way longer than that. So the American War for Independence took 20 years. And a lot of these moments, I mean, they were going back 10 or so, 20 years before, I think 10 or so years before the signing of the Declaration. So the British regulars shooting people, the conflict, the confiscations, all that was going on.

It just wasn't at the point of people marching towards each other. I think that they celebrate the inductions into war because it's war propaganda. They use it like, remember that we're the victim and we had to fight. I don't know. That's how I'm phrasing it. So maybe, I don't know, what's up with the June 19th thing that you were talking about? What is that exactly? That was the day that Union soldiers made it to the last place in the country in Texas.

I think it was Galveston? Yeah. Where the last slaves had not been informed they were free men and finally ended slavery. Okay. So it's worth celebrating as an end of slavery kind of thing. I don't think it has anything to do with July 4th, though. I don't know why those two would be in the same conversation. I think Juneteenth is cool.

I think we get a holiday in June to have barbecue and celebrate freedom and independence. I'm totally for it. Slavery was abhorrent, and it took that long to get rid of it. I say we do another holiday, and we celebrate the end of slavery, the real end of slavery. And we also have the Fourth of July, when our founding fathers set forth a new nation that was one of the first at the time to challenge these monarchs, these absolute authorities, and say, of, for, and by the people. Was it perfect? No, but it planted these seeds. And of the seeds planted, we were blessed with people

like Frederick Douglass, who challenged the American people to uphold the words that they themselves had put in their own constitution about all men being created equal, which ultimately led to the abolition of slavery. And many other countries retained slavery and still have slavery to this day. Slavery was bad.

The 4th of July, Declaration of Independence, the Constitution are all good things. Juneteenth is also a good thing. I will take two holidays. Absolutely. But also, for whatever reason, we are a nation which doesn't want to celebrate the fact that we ended slavery. We want to scold ourselves for the fact that it ever happened, even though virtually every culture throughout all of history has had some form of it, and we ended it. Well, it's a political cudgel, but the Democrats wield it all the time.

But if you go back, and, you know, Louie Gohmert did a good monologue on that on the House floor about the history of the Democratic Party and slavery. They were the South in the Civil War. They were Jim Crow. They were the KKK. They were the anti-segregation. They reinstituted segregation under Woodrow Wilson, okay? Segregated the government and the army again. So, you know,

the Democratic Party acts as though they are the defenders of freedom and of the slaves, but they were the ones behind it for most of the American history. And they're also the party that just tried to repeal the civil rights provisions from the California Constitution only a couple of years ago. Yeah, it's funny. I was thinking about this the other day. They also argue that there was a party switch. And so the Democratic Party can't be held accountable or looked upon negatively for the fact that they supported slavery, they supported Jim Crow, etc. And yet, when you look at the nation as a whole, everyone is to blame, right? Basically, all white Americans are to blame to some extent for slavery,

even though it ended, the history of it still remains. But then when you talk about the Democratic Party, oh, well, the legacy of that just disappeared instantly, right? The party switched, and then the legacy of slavery and racism within the Democratic Party just vanished overnight. Not in the country as a whole, just in like the pocket where it's convenient for us to say it disappeared, even though studies show that white liberals dumb their language down when they talk to black people. It was actually this one moment where every single Democrat, like a strike of lightning, just went, I was wrong!

And the whole country changed. And every Republican was hit. At once. Conversely, by that same lightning. Oh, no. They've sent their racism to us. Oh, no. They would go, oh, yes. Well, let's talk about what's going on here in Washington County. So for those that aren't familiar, we are in Western Maryland. And I live in West Virginia officially. But we work out of Western Maryland. And I don't think we'll be doing that much longer because I think the policies of the state are insane. And what you often see is leftists not understanding how taxes work, not understanding how businesses work.

We just – actually, there's a really great tweet. David Hogg, you know the guy from Parkland? Yes. You see this tweet? No, I didn't. He tweeted, it's too difficult to form an LLC. This is ridiculous. There's too many regulations.

And people were like, accidental conservative moment. No, it's a young kid who did not realize how difficult it is often. Now, when you get old, you get experienced. It's actually relatively easy. But I'll tell you the challenges. The first formation of a company I did was confusing and very difficult. Imagine someone walks up to you

and they hand you five bowling pins and say, juggle. You'll be like, okay, I can't do that. And they'll be like, figure it out. Take you a long time to figure it out. Once you get the hang of it, you can mix it up and you're juggling. Like, I know how to do this. Yeah, where I'm at now with this company, it's really easy to start companies and work with it. But I have a team. We have accountants. We have lawyers. For a regular person, it's so difficult. And so what we end up seeing with many people on the

left is they don't start companies. So they have no idea what's going on. No, they go to government. And then the government passes laws like, how do we increase tax revenue? I know, increase taxes. Well, I'll tell you what the result of that is. We're leaving. Yeah. We're moving our headquarters over. We've been building free domicile for a few months.

We already have many employees who are already reporting out of there. And we're going to move everything to West Virginia because we're 10 minutes away. Because it's almost heaven. Yeah, basically. Is that the slogan or something? It's John Denver. That's some John Denver song. Okay.

But no, I think it's funny. Every time someone on the left tries to do something even remotely productive, they end up dropping some kind of conservative take about it. It's like, yeah, man, it's really hard to start this company. It's like, oh my goodness, he did something in the real world. Now he has a conservative opinion. How interesting. This is interesting. Jen Perlman, who we've had on the show, who is a progressive Democrat, was tweeting about billionaires paying their fair share.

And I said, how much do you think is fair? Is 55% a fair share? And Jen responded that perhaps 25% to 30% if you get rid of the loopholes was a fair share and so i said are you saying you would want to reduce the tax burden on billionaires if you could close the loopholes and they said yeah i think so and i'm like i don't know if i agree with that completely but that's an interesting take i also wonder if they really understand what loopholes mean. I don't think they do. No. Because I don't think they would be arguing for that if they understood what a tax loophole really was.

Well, a lot of the tax loopholes, what they call loopholes, are built in to incentivize businesses, investors, entrepreneurs to do things that the government wants them to do, to get them involved in economic zones in underprivileged areas, low-income areas. It's about trying to bring in high-tech businesses and give them a tax break in an area like Washington County so you get high-tech companies coming in instead of low-paying warehouse jobs. Why would they call that a loophole and not a tax break incentive

because they don't actually want people to be incentivized to do good things they just want to punish anyone who's more successful than them no it's because look i think most of them never never ran a business yep they don't pay business taxes in their mind they were told evil billionaires aren't paying their fair share yes the problem i have with that is I'm like, look, I'm with Bannon on this one. Tax the rich. However, I don't think giving the government the idea in and of itself. But government's not going to do a good

job with it, so I don't know how I ultimately feel with the end results of that. But the issue is they don't actually have a definition of what fair means. Yeah, fair share rhymes. It's catchy. It's a rhetoric. It doesn't really mean anything. That's why's why i said it's 55 fair you're not going to get a straight answer welcome to earth dude fairness come on but when you look at say the income tax 50 of people that earn income do not pay an income tax right and the top one percent pay a tremendous i don't know what the number is but

it's overwhelming amount so if you actually break down the tax burden um by bracket most people receive more benefits from taxes than they pay into it most people even up to like 100 or 200k per year it's only around or after that people start actually paying taxes and it's overwhelmingly the 1% and the billionaires who are paying the taxes that fund the benefits for all of the poor. I like that.

I have no problem with that. That's why I have a problem with the government being unaccountable, being bloated and corrupt. The idea that rich people or we pay a percentage in taxes and that goes to helping

poorer people have cleaner water or roads, I like it. We're only as strong as our weakest that goes to helping poorer people have cleaner water or roads. I like it. We're only as strong as our weakest link. But we don't have that. We've got a broken tax system. We've got leftists who don't understand it who are being manipulated and then impose tax laws which hurt their own states. And we have bloated government that siphons money off for BS reasons like Pakistani gender studies.

Corporations that are considered multinational that bounce from country to country depending on the tax levels. They have bank accounts in Panama. The Panama Papers breaks and shows all these people have like, they're hoarding their wealth offshores. This is the real life reality. So how do you deal with that?

Corporations aren't going to sit around and pay you exorbitant taxes. They're just going to move their money offshore. Can I give you an example? I've been campaigning and I've been going door to door. I'm trying to hit 200 to 250 homes every day, talking to people that are paying taxes, older people in their homes, younger people just getting started with young kids. And in Washington County, we have a tremendous surplus. The amount

might be $40, $50 million in excess revenue. They're talking about a $3 million property tax cut for the whole county. That will amount to about $50 for an average family making $50,000 a year living in a moderate-priced home of about $180,000. $50, total rebate the assessments in in this county we get reassessed one-third of the houses get reassessed every year the assessments are going up so it's going to be almost a hundred dollars a month more for that average house so we're giving fifty dollars back but we're taking eleven hundred and fifty dollars them. That's driving elder people out of their homes. They're a part of the fabric of the community.

We want the grandparents and the elderly to be there because they're part of that community. They're important. But they're having to leave for West Virginia, for Pennsylvania, or go to Florida. So Maryland is a ridiculous state, and the taxes are so insane. West Virginia is literally, you know, a hand. We could drive a half an hour and we're at our new headquarters. Is that half an hour drive?

Is it worth losing hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars? Well, that's ridiculous. So Maryland, it doesn't seem to understand that. I understand maybe for a brick and mortar business, but the nature of our business and the growth we're having, we have no choice but to leave the state. And that means Maryland will end up losing tax

revenue instead of just saying, we will compete for your business with West Virginia. You could have something where certain areas of Maryland have a certain tax rate, but the further west you go, it starts to go down. So it becomes a little more like the neighboring states. They do the opposite. They increase. So the way it works is if you're a resident of West Virginia and you work in Maryland, they charge you an additional tax. Instead of saying, thank you for bringing your business here, they say, we're going to punish

you for bringing your business here. Yeah. Well, and people don't really understand that this is a matter of incentives. Like you said, that's what it is. It's a punishment. Of course, know nothings look at that and go, hey, they're raising money for our budget. I've discussed and broken down the Laffer curve on this show before. A lot of lefties who don't know anything about economics, which is to say most lefties will actually tell you the Laffer curve doesn't exist. That's not true.

No left-wing economist even says that. The disagreement is just over where the parabola peaks. Conservative-leaning economists tend to say it's somewhere near 20%. Left-wing economists might say as high as 70% if they're really crazy. But ultimately, people are not going to work for money when they can't keep as much of it. It's really basic stuff. I just think it's a tremendous oversight for there to be a tri-state area between Virginia, Maryland, West Virginia and Maryland's like, we're going to make it more expensive so everyone's like, why would I be in Maryland?

It's similar to Illinois. Illinois is surrounded by red states, lower taxes, higher productivity, more economic growth and Illinois is losing population. The taxes go up because the more people that leave, the more the producers leave, the more those left behind have to pay to support the gargantuan government apparatus that's in place.

Grassroots Atlas shrugged. Well, you know, we see evidence of this kind of thing in the real world, too. So despite all of the lies the media said to convince people otherwise after the trump tax cuts we saw a revenue increase our deficit increased as well because increased spending outpaced the increase in revenue but the left used the fact that the deficit increased to argue that we lost revenue it actually wasn't the case they were just lying about it but when you tax people less, they have more incentive to work and they generate more wealth for the economy. And then take a look. It's not just your income tax. It's not just your property tax.

It's the higher gasoline tax. It's the higher sales tax. It's the fees that they pass on on cable, direct TV. The water costs more. All these things are passed on, okay, more so here than in West Virginia. Well, and they know this. It's interesting. They know this because when it comes to taxing cigarettes or alcohol or even gasoline, it's understood that there's an agenda there, and the agenda is we want people to use less of this.

So they're willing to recognize when it's convenient for them that when you increase taxes on something, you end up with a less productive market there. You're not able to sell as much of it. And yet when it comes to human labor, they're completely blind to it. You know what else is interesting? This crypto stuff, they didn't start taxing it till like 2018, I think. And so basically there's like another $700 billion in the economy that maybe isn't accounted for right now,

that untaxed wealth was just created out of nothing. That's true. Considering the mass printing of money, the explosion in the money supply, I'm not sure if $700 billion puts a dent in it. Yeah, right. It's up to $2 trillion in crypto value or there value thereabouts fluctuates west virginia's got constitutional carry there you go it's it's just western maryland i guess the way the states have structured themselves they can't adapt properly fast enough i don't know it just seems ridiculous to me that the current system is too sluggish to realize the Western Maryland system.

They're going to be losing prominent industry. Why did they not make it so you could pay taxes online when you were at the White House? I don't know if you were involved with the economic stuff at all, but like. It's an act of Congress. Like, why would they not focus on streamlining that process so you can go and click a few buttons, have your payment go direct from your bank account. Instead, they make you file all this paperwork and search for things and go to this, and then it's like, I've got to pay that in mail. Well, that's totally different. 21st century. I'm talking about their incompetence and sluggishness to adapt.

This is lobbying. There's big companies that make billions of dollars off of tax filing preparation. Well, here's the question I have for you. I took two months with Facebook to try and get validated to have a campaign page. It took me two months. And they even used snail mail in the process, which slowed the whole thing down. I sold my house from the time I called the Internet company Open Door until I got a check in the mail.

It took me 13 days. I never saw a person. Yet Facebook, a modern company, two months to validate me as a person to be able to run political ads. Bureaucracy. Is it too big? The American government has too many people working there? Yes. Nothing ever gets smaller. No programs ever die. Nope.

Exactly. It's a float. They've got to know that if you hang on to a dying system and you refuse to shred it apart, it's going to get overthrown. That's the inevitable. If you look at history from thousands and thousands of years in the past, that's what happens with societies if you refuse to reform. But what happens is as the culture starts to decay and break down, many people recognize we need a reform or it's going to fall apart. And once that happens, people say, well, I can't count on you, so I better grab as much silverware as possible as this ship sinks. And that's what's happening right now. We've gone through things like reinventing government.

Okay. That was a big thing, I think, in the Clinton years. We had George Bush reinvent and redesign the whole intelligence community, 16 agencies, and develop the Department of National Intelligence. It didn't solve anything, really. It just created another layer of bureaucracy, more jobs, more elite, but it's not any better. Did you guys consider defaulting on the interest of the Federal Reserve? I wasn't involved in that. That would have been Mr. Munchen

and others. But let's ask the audience. Did you ever consider defaulting on the debt to the Federal Reserve? Just the interest. So get those super chats in. We're going to read your comments. Smash the like button

if you haven't already. Head over to timcast.com. Become a member. We're going to have a members-only segment coming up around 11 p.m. Seamus, what do you think? By the way, I want to say it wasn't a super chat, but I glanced over at the right moment and noticed that someone in chat said, interesting that the guy

with the Irish flag behind him just commented on alcohol taxes. That's right. That's right. All right, let's read some super chats. We got Andre who says something definitely changed in Twitter's algorithm. All of a sudden, I'm getting hundreds of likes on my comments. Many replies. I'm pretty sure I didn't become super witty overnight.

You see what I'm saying? It's not just follower count. All of a sudden, people are getting crazy engagement. Yeah, I have my tweet from yesterday has more than double the likes of any other tweet I've ever put out. You were on. Listen, Ian, do you think conservatives like you? I think everybody likes me. No, but I mean, like, obviously they're critical of you.

Probably, yeah. People are critical of me in general. Does it make sense that the people, like, you'll get a mixed reaction sometimes. You'll get ones or twenties. Does it make sense that all of a sudden everyone just agreed with you and liked your stuff? No, this is completely anomalous. I'm not... I don't know. I mean, it was a great tweet.

Don't get me wrong. When we win a battle, I do not celebrate. I focus on how to win the next battle. Do girls you're meeting in bars now like you? That's probably what I saw. My old girlfriends

are finally liking my stuff. All right, all right, girl. Ladies, I'm back. All right, we got Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, just because. More fight back. Thank you very much.

Morick says, do a Vosh versus Alex Jones debate on free speech, trans, and culture war. No matter the harm to my eardrums, I will subscribe years to listen to that. Thank you, Elon. Twitter is now a better place. Well, Vosh has the very

calm and slow talk. Well, Alex, you need to understand that you can't make that argument. And Alex would be screaming, you know, maybe. But look, as much as I can say, Vosh is one of the few leftists who will come on the show. And people have a lot to criticize him over, especially with the kids and the grooming stuff. I'd like to have a different leftist come on and debate somebody, but they don't want to do it.

Matt Bender said he was going to email us, did he? No, I haven't seen that email. Because I told him to email me and you. He didn't do it. No, I haven't seen it. We invited him on the show. It's funny, I invited him on the show last time, and he was like, whatever happened to that?

And I was like, bro, you can come on the show. We'd love to have a left podcaster. B-I-N-D-E-R. Oh. B-I-N-D-E-R. And he didn't get anything from him, and it's been like a week or whatever, so I'm not surprised.

Alright, let's grab some more Super Chats. Lightgiver says, Brussels has warned Musk that Twitter must comply with European's new digital rules or face fines or ban. Yes, I'm pretty sure Elon Musk is going to adhere

to these rules. I don't think Elon Musk is going to walk in and be like, okay, everybody, anyone can post anything right now. Just do it. I kind of disagree. I think he's going to say whatever's legal in the United States is legal on Twitter. And whatever's legal in whatever state they're incorporating, which is California at the moment, is now state laws. You've got to adhere to state law. Maybe they'll move the corporation to a better state that has better local laws. Ian, let me ask you something. What is the challenge associated with that? Because yesterday on the show, you said it would be difficult to create a policy.

And you're mentioning the First Amendment now. Is there some reason the First Amendment will be more difficult to implement than the policies they have now? I'm curious what the pitfalls are as someone who's worked with a social media company before. One of the main ones is that countries like Brussels will just not host Twitter now.

Like China, it won't be in, like, Mines isn't in China. They won't host it because it's a free speech policy. Another downside with having one, and I call it authoritarian when it's a corporation because they're just inherently authoritarian by nature, but when you have one authoritarian at the top, whether it's Elon Musk or any corporate owner,

they can tell you it's free speech but then completely just block everything the next day. They don't have to, like, adhere. There's no laws. You know, that's the problem with saying your terms of service are free speech. There's no constitution that upholds that. It's the will of the corporate overlord. So you need to go outside of terms of service to really instantiate. I love that word. Third time we've said it tonight. Free speech. It's got to be enshrined in the code itself that there is some way to take control of the network on your own

if you're not happy with the way other people are running it and build your own. But Brussels is not for free speech. Then they can do that on their own, in my opinion. But I don't think that we should allow countries that are not for free speech to dictate how we run ours. Yeah, I think what will happen is Elon is going to say, okay, in the United States we have free speech, in Europe you don't. And then people will use VPNs to get to the website anyway,

or they'll move to the United States to get out of their totalitarian countries. VPNs. Their old monarchies. People are going to start downloading Virtual Shield. Yeah. I wonder how many people are using a VPN to watch this show tonight from China. What's up, dudes? Well, yeah, maybe.

Jesus Crisp says, Timcast, Daily Wire, and The Blaze are triumvirate of truth. Oh, yes. I mean, there's other people involved in there, isn't there? I love this person. Yeah, what about Joe Rogan? All right, let's see. Katoth Swiss says, but Taylor needs those sweet, sweet victim points, Tim. Yeah, I know.

It worked out for her. We got the, hey, Tim Pool's fighting back, and she got the, oh, help, I'm a victim. Everybody wins, right? That's the culture war? the culture war i just i'm sick of the lies so you know sending a message where it's like you want to wield institutional power that is the washington post i'll wield institutional power that is a times square billboard shout out to the to the daily wire for the assistance all right the senate says it's a picture of palpatine hey tim you should buy another billboard and talk about Biden's crooked dealings. Here's some cash to get you started. You can't.

Political ads are not allowed in most of the Times Square billboards, so you can't do it. Maybe it's not a political ad. Maybe it's just an advertisement for meeting with the big guy. Oh, yeah. That is an interesting challenge, though. When Donald Trump was looking into what Biden was doing, they said it it was political but Biden hadn't even announced that he was running for office he was retired at that point yeah what an insane standard

but this is what will happen if you go and say look I just want to talk about what Joe Biden did look like it's political because he's a politician but I'm not talking about anything policy wise I'm talking about criminal activity I don't like that they call Obama President Obama now that he's not president anymore there's like this weird what does that have to do with what I was talking about like you're saying he's not president anymore. There's like this weird...

What does that have to do with what I was talking about? You're saying he's once in politics, always in politics, and you can't go after him anymore. Like Biden, now that he was vice president, they're like, hello, Mr. Vice President, even when he's out of office. It's some weird tradition that we refer to old presidents as President Bush or President Obama

when they're not president anymore. I don't think the titles of the individual is what matters. What matters is they will make up an excuse to block you from trying to call them out. They're acting as if he's still political. I just want to say, you know, Ian, some people are still calling Biden vice president. Including Obama. Or no, Biden himself.

But no, what an absurd idea, right? If someone's a political figure, you can't investigate them for a crime or that's political. Unless, of course, it's Donald Trump or Marjorie Taylor Greene, then it's fair game. All right, we got this one from JL who says, my kidneys are shutting down and I'm stuck in a hospital bed. Can someone please take over the Ian Shaft cam meme for me, please?

Get healthy, sir. Get healthy. All right. G Money says, Tim and Ian, check your DMs. I just made a remix of the beautiful Chicken City acapella Tim posted. It's, what is it? Twitter 5420. So I posted an isolated vocal track. We were recording the Chicken City theme song earlier

today. Dude, I have some incredible harmonies for that. I'm super excited. So we were tracking the second verse and so I put the camera up and I just recorded nothing but me singing and put it up on Instagram. It was like a joke and the harmonies are so good that I wrote. I think it was like a joke and the harmonies are so good that i wrote i think it could be a hit song yes it's incredible yeah this song is about chicken

city and it's going to be epic so uh i played it on my instagram on the acoustic and now we're finishing out it's it's it's a beautiful beautiful folk song beautiful all right let's see we got amanda dilt says today is my son Hunter's 5th birthday Can you please wish him a happy birthday He really loves all the voices that Seamus does Oh that's adorable What voice should I do Ben Shapiro

Okay first of all happy birthday Happy birthday to you embody the archetypal How old is he turning 5 years old Hunter Embody the archetypal 5 year old be a hero Hunter that's my brother's middle name. Okay, you got Ben Shapiro and Jordan

Peterson. What else? Jack Dorsey. Happy birthday. Happy fifth birthday, young man. Trump was, first of all, five was a very

good year for me. I hope it's a good year for you too, frankly. Quite frankly, it's what I, you probably won't make as much money as I make.

It's what I started doing. That's my fortune. Got a job very early. Is that it? I don't know. much money as I bet. That's when I started to invest my fortune. Got a job very early. Is that it? I don't know. Throw another voice at me. Any voices they want for this kid's birthday?

Gilbert Gottfried. Oh, man. Can I do that? Happy fifth birthday! Oh, wow. Is that it? Good. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. That was great. Thank you. Rest in peace. Thank you. Yes. The great Gilbert. All right. That's great. Thank you. Rest in peace. Thank you, yes. The great Gilbert.

All right. Grant Gordon says, Tim, you guys got to go and see and review the new movie out of The Northmen. There's no political agenda. The woke are furious that there's no diverse cast

and it's extremely masculine. It's an awesome... I did go see it. I quite enjoyed it, actually. I thought it was really good. What are people saying? It's basically Hamlet, but with Vikings? Yeah, that's what I heard but that's uh it's where did you see it uh just local theater okay yeah up in frederick so i thought it was great uh i actually was really uh enthralled

so you know i i i determine how how much i like a movie based on you know a few factors did i was i was i attuned to the film the whole time? That's a big one. Because there are films with really great scenes where I'm like, whoa. And then something happens and I'll be looking around or I'll be like, I'm going to go to the bathroom. I don't know what's going on. So this movie, I didn't take my eyes off the screen one time. I was glued to it because it's always something cool happening.

I thought it was good. I thought it was good. I don't think the story was like a legendary profound thing, but I remembered everything through it. There were some really cool happening. I love movies like that. I thought it was good. I thought it was good. I don't think the story was like a legendary, profound thing, but I remembered everything through it and there were some really cool moments. How's it doing overall,

do you think? I don't know, but it's cool. Alexander Skarsgård plays a Viking berserker. It's really cool. It's brutal. Now, just a question.

Did you like Yellowstone? I did not watch it. Oh, okay. Yeah. I don't know. I hear it's good, though. I hear it's great, yeah. Yep.

I should watch it, though. I like Northen. Northen opened with't know. I hear it's good, though. I hear it's great, yeah. Yep. I should watch it, though. I like Northman. Northman opened with $23.5 million. Is that good? It's definitely not politically correct, Yellowstone. Oh, really? When I saw the trailers for The Northman, I was like, I want to see that.

Like, brutal Viking film. And it's just, I dig it. It's a brutal movie. Wow. Yeah, it's cool. The cinematography is incredible, too. I thought it was fantastic i i actually i would say this i would go see it again it's on my list now yeah there's very few movies

i would go see twice i would see that one i'm not i'm not saying that to make you think that like it's a lord of the rings you know some epic but it's just really entertaining so i'm definitely looking forward to watching it again and they're saying it's like it's racist it's all white it's patriarchal it's alt-right and i'm like dude it's just like an it's what it was it's a viking movie i don't know i watched black panther i thought it was really good too like and that was an all mostly black cast am i supposed to be angry about this stuff it's just so weird to me man all right all right let's see uh on numbers it says that northman costs 70 to 90 million to make it's 90 million dollars and that there's only made about 23 million in the first weekend so they anticipate not making the money back on it but you know that may change they're saying they

don't think they'll make their money that's what they get for spending 90 million dollars on a freaking movie geez and it's kind of crazy because it's a lot of just like outdoors in Scandinavia. And like VR, or not VR, but CG. Not really. Are there a lot of high A-list actors in it or very popular actors?

Nicole Kidman. Willem Dafoe's in it. Oh, yeah. That's 20 million. Yeah. Alexander Skarsgård is not that big, but he's fairly well-known.

He played Magneto at some point, did he? Was it Skarsgård played Magneto? Is that the same guy? No, he? Was it Skarsgård played Magneto? Is that the same guy? No, no, no. Skarsgård, he was in True Blood. His most notable role is he was the male model in Zoolander

who sprayed gasoline on him. That's a great role. All right. I forgot about that scene. That's hysterical. The gasoline fight. Do you ever think there's more to life than being really, really, really ridiculously good looking?

I want to watch Zoolander now. I like that movie. What is this, a school for ants? All right, Morpheus says, Twitter now has a downvote system. I'm surprised. Really? Really? Did they implement that?

What did they do with that? Yeah, for only some people, though. Oh. All right, Laughing Dog says, Only Democrats get to be downvoted now in Elon Musk's regime. Laughing Dog says, Only Democrats get to be downvoted now in Elon Musk's regime. Laughing Dog says, Good job with the street meme, Timmy, my boy. Very proud of you and your hard work.

And shout out to The Daily Wire for making this happen. We are actually looking at Times Square ads, though. Looking at a couple. Because we've got the Tales from the Inverted World book release coming up in a couple months. The new book. So we're going to do like a big campaign. It's going to be fantastic. Building that culture.

Tales from the Inverted World. Ghosts, the new book. So we're going to do like a big campaign. It's going to be fantastic building that culture. Tales from the Inverted World, Ghosts of the Civil War. The coolest thing about it, I think is not like the ghost stories, the UFO, Bigfoot or the Lost Gold. It's what I hear from Shane Cashman, our reporter, our writer, who's meeting all these people from the South,

from Georgia, and they're telling him about what went down in the Civil War. And it's just like crazy stuff that you don't hear about. Like one story was when, you know, during Sherman's march to the sea, when they like ransacked everything, there was whiskey pouring from casks into the street

and guys were scooping it up with their hats and just like trying to drink it. Crazy stuff like that. Yeah, cool stories. Yeah, and they really hate Sherman. Oh, yeah. Are you kidding me? Like just destroyed everything. Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely brutal. Named kidding me? He's destroyed everything. I like that guy. Yeah, absolutely brutal. Named a tank after him, too. Yeah. All right. Let's see what we got. Bradley Markham says, I've been watching your reports since 2015. Your track record is impeccable.

Thank you for what you do. You know, it's simple. When I do general reporting on the facts, they tend to be correct because, you know, the Covington kids, they come out, they lie about it. I do the digging. I say, here's what happened. I'm right. Predictions, not as much. When I say, because of this, here's what I think will happen, those are up in the air. Predictions are very hard.

Right. Even when they have lots of information because there's so many factors that can go into changing the course of events going forward. And having some, maybe being a little humble, okay? I found that in the intelligence community is very easy for people to report what's going on, to describe things, but they're not very good at predicting. Yeah, and your prediction, a public prediction will also alter the course of whatever had been happening just by disturbing the process. Yeah, well, and that's true. I think over the past couple years especially,

I've been reluctant to make predictions just because of how insane things have got. But I will say this. The one prediction I've gotten more confident in making is that the media is lying to me. What they're saying to me will turn out to be a lie. That prediction I'm always comfortable making. All right. The One Free Man says, Twitter just a lie. That prediction I'm always comfortable making. All right.

The One Free Man says, Twitter just reactivated from when I shared the laptop story. Interesting. Also, Ukraine government paying farmers to stop farming. U.S. refuses to ship fertilizers to farms. Canada declares fertilizer worst emissions offender. More processing plant fires. Intentional.

Perhaps, perhaps, but it's interesting that they shut you down over the laptop and only just released it. Some people have said it's an Enron, that right now Twitter is burning papers, destroying records, destroying code, because they don't want anyone to find out what's going on. Well, it just goes to show you, because if what he's saying is true, the laptop story was proven to be true a good while before Elon Musk purchased Twitter. Yeah, and that code is going to be backed up elsewhere. People are actually destroying Twitter's IP right now by doing something to code. Those people are going to go to federal prison. But the memos, the emails, that sort of thing, people, I think, are fairly certain that they will not be held accountable at the end of the day.

They won't be publicly shamed. They won't be called out. And even if someone tries, it'll be very hard to penetrate the media-controlled environment. They'll just call it fake news over and over again. They don't really need to cover things up. They just need to shame you for talking about them. All right. Colonel Cornelius Cornwall says,

I have like 13-plus videos of Tim talking about corn. I plan on making a corn palation. Tim, please join my corn cult, Cornicultia. Corn be with you. Corn be with you. We've done amazing things with corn. We've made plastics, fuel, popcorn. Sounds corny.

Syrup. I tried to lower my chair so I could just sink out of frame when I said that, but it was already too low. Pardaxalus says, shout out to all the Timcast members. Ten bucks a month is changing culture. Thanks, Tim, for being genuine and transparent. We try to the greatest degree that we can. And if you become members at Timcast.com, just know we're going to do more stuff like setting up billboards, calling out the BS. And we've got a bunch of other ideas.

I call it culture jamming as marketing. I didn't make that up. The idea is, am I really going to market this company by putting up a billboard where it's like, watch the show? Maybe we might, something like that. But what really works is culture jamming. Making something that makes people stop and think and say, hey, whoa. Challenging the system. Calling out liars.

That's worth way more than putting up an ad where it's like, buy my book. Gotta do something. All right. Murph tries. DIY says,

Seamus, you need to make Tim's rant of Elon and the Battle of Helm's Deep a freedom tune. Well, now I can't. Now he's gonna be able to sue me if I do it.

It's an unsolicited pitch. That's right. But I'll tell you what, Seamus. I was gonna, but now I can't. Maybe you just need to figure out a way to get those Fauci roles in these cartoons. Oh, man. Tim is always gunning for Fauci because

he pays the bills here. I could also do Nancy Pelosi if he just gives me a chance. Do I want to animate Nancy Pelosi? He's gunning for Fauci because he pays the bills here based on his Fauci impression. I could also do Nancy Pelosi if he just gives me a chance. Do I want to animate Nancy Pelosi? Do I want to look at this? Yeah, I just don't really want to think about her. Maybe we should make a chicken Nancy Pelosi for Chicken City Cartoons. Pelosi's teeth.

All right. Logan Lux says, possible solution to Twitter censorship. Anything can be posted, but every user is required to tag their post as graphic, gore, et cetera. And users also filter out their own set of tags they don't want to see. Suspend those tagging inappropriately. I think what Minds does is that you have to tag your content. If you don't, you get permanently soft censored, meaning they put like a blur over your pictures. Over your entire channel.

Yeah, people have to go there and set it. And that's also a great point. Granular search. So basically you can blacklist words that you don't want to see, and you can whitelist things that you want to appear up in your algorithm. I think it's a really good way moving forward. Right on. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says,

No crap. Down with crap. And that's critical race applied principles. Completely agree. Stanley Jr. says, no crap. Down with crap. And that's critical race applied principles. Completely agree. All right. Jeffrey Pfaff says, Staten Island GOP did the same thing today to John Matland. He was primarying a useless GOP rep. What is that?

Militakis? We got all of the required signatures, but the establishment gop challenged it going to court corruption i'm not a fan the jaded kriegsman says tim i like the idea of uh the idea on a boycott but it's better that people where they can vote in the vote in for populists in 22 and go vote in the primaries still vote in the general but but only for populist candidates and right abstain for others. Yeah, it's a good point. You should definitely vote for the populist if you can, because if there's a hundred jurisdictions where populist does win, then the crony establishment will have no power, power in the federal government because they, you know, assuming

they cheated or whatever, or like, you know, I mean, by booting people out of the primary, and then you got to take what you can get. Maybe by 2024, they'll have lost all of their institutional power. Murph Tri says, what can we do to get Matt Walsh to read Johnny the Walrus to the cast of Chicken City? Oh, yeah. I don't know how you would keep the chickens, like, watching. It's like an a la carte thing. They can come and go. Also, I don't, well, maybe we're underestimating how engaging this story is.

It's very engaging. Chickens could pay attention. I haven't read it. Do walrusesimating how engaging this story is. It's very engaging. Chickens could pay attention. I haven't read it. Do walruses scare chickens? Oh, that's a good question. Probably. But I think the real question is do pictures of walruses scare chickens? Because they might not know the difference.

No, the real question is does Matt Walsh scare chickens? Matt Walsh does scare chickens. Chickens are scared of everything. That's why they're chickens. Roberto's beard. Roberto's getting pretty tough. He's challenging people. You think he could take Matt Walsh?

No, but he'll try. Not in a one-on-one fight. No, Walsh would do it to him. Yeah, I think Walsh definitely could beat a rooster. He could probably beat the rooster. Yeah, he could beat a rooster. That's my hunch, but you're kind of upselling this rooster. What about a goose, though?

I don't know if Matt Walsh could beat a goose in a fight. Goose is tough. Like a big goose? I don't know. Like the biggest. I mean, if he had knolls backing him up, then definitely not.

Do you think you could... It would do worse. It would do worse. It would do way worse. Do you think you could beat a goose, Derek? We have five geese at our place. Oh, tell me about it.

Yeah, and they are mean. Yeah. They're mean. How close can you get? They chase place. Oh tell me about it. And they are mean. How close can you get? They chase you. I would chase a goose. Obviously Matt Walsh could defeat a goose in a fight but a gang of geese.

Like five? I think you'd have to run. I'd mess every one of those geese up. What about remember that meme? Fight one horse sizedsized duck or 100 duck-sized horses? I think you've got to go with the small horses. They're more docile. Oh, man. Just don't get behind on horses.

There was a hysterical study, and I can't remember where it was from, but it was basically a survey done comparing the results between men and women when they asked them which animals they could defeat in a fight. It's really good. Oh, man. Maybe we'll pull it up on the after show. I think I remember that. That's a teaser now. You haven't told us about it. Yeah, exactly. and women when they ask them which animals they could defeat in a fight it's really good oh man maybe we'll pull it up on the after show i think i'm a teaser now you haven't told yeah exactly you guys are gonna have to see the results tune it tune out into the after show all right matthew miller says good to hear the spirit of dave smith speaking through seamus that tax tax talk on labor

versus gas sounds familiar cheers all his dave smith said that well good for him you mean you're not gonna acknowledge that you ripped off i stole it from dave i you know i was watching look all look we need to roll back the state we spy on all of our own citizens our prisons are flooded with non-violent drug offenders if you want to know who we're going to go to war with next look at who we're funding right now original seamus coglin quote very original yeah Right now. Original Seamus Coughlin quilt. Very original. Yeah. All right. Lackles says, We built Chicken City on Bach and Crow. Well, okay.

Bach. Yeah, it's a song. Darius Harvey says, Do you guys have an app yet? Almost. We almost have an app. We're starting with iOS, and then we're going to do Android,

and it takes time because, oh, man, things take too much time they're expensive so um become a member at tipcast.com orange red says what happens to cast castle once you move to the new hq there will be some production stuff still happening here uh i don't know about the vlog though we may have to move that to Freedomistan. But then what? Is the name Cast Castle and not Freedomistan? I don't know. We've got really cool updates on the foundation's been laid. They're going to be doing the building soon. We are going to be building.

It's going to look so wacky. It's going to be amazing. We got crazy plans. I don't want to release them just yet. But we're going to. One thing we are planning on doing. The internals of the new workspace is going to be fully skatable so like there'll be a picnic bench for it to sit up sit and work at angle iron grind

bars you can skate on it you can do whatever there's going to be a stage it's also going to be a part of a fun box like a multi-use skate obstacle and the the flat can open up to a foam pit the bar where you can go get something to drink or cook food totally skatable angle iron multi-use skate obstacle, and the flat can open up to a foam pit. The bar, where you can go get something to drink or cook food, totally skateable. Angle iron, skate light, all that good stuff, the whole thing. It's going to be epic. So during the work day, people are working, and then once work is done, people will throw it on their boards, put on their blades, grab their scooter or bike,

and then they're going to be grinding on all their work equipment. That sounds like a good tourist location for people to come set up tours, set up lodging, visitors. That would be really fun. And then we'll just, you know, my goal is in 10 years to have massive skyscrapers in the middle of West Virginia. People are going to be like, what is going on? Hey, hey. But that means we're going to have tons of new people coming in, bringing in new jobs. And it's going to be really cool. When my 5-year-old and 9-year-old hear about this, they're going to say, that's where I want to work.

Yeah. Well, we already have a skate park in this house. We have one in the basement, and we have one in the garage. So the new space is 7,500 square feet, 31 feet tall, 25 on the sides with a 31-foot at the center because of the pitch. We're going to have the studio very much like we do now, but it's going to be on the sides with a 31 foot at the center because of the pitch we're going to have the studio very much like we do now but it's going to be on the second floor

it's going to have one wall all glass so you can see the whole you know interior of the building I hate to bring this up but what's OSHA say about that?

no it's all fine no yeah yeah yeah I mean it's it's actually nothing particularly crazy relative to what a lot of companies

already do when I went like Fusion's office had that already the mezzanine was like It's actually nothing particularly crazy relative to what a lot of companies already do. When I went, like Fusion's office had that already. The mezzanine was like overlooking the entirety of the warehouse building with all the people working on the bottom. Ours is just a particularly smaller version of it. So the real issue is how you segment space for who and what work and like how it works for insurance. But I think we'll be able to navigate it just fine. So certain spaces allotted to certain elements of the business and not to the others. for who and what work and like how it works for insurance. But I think we'll be able to navigate it just fine. You know,

so certain spaces allotted to certain elements of the business and not to the others and there's different companies that have different portions and stuff like that. We'll build some stuff outside as well.

It's going to be a lot of fun. We have this gigantic like 15 foot mound of dirt now for when they excavated. We'll maybe build something. I don't know. All right. Yeah.

Underground tunnels, hobbit house, earth ships. Yeah. All right. But hopefully it'll. Hobbit house. Earthships. Yeah. All right. But hopefully it'll get done. Yeah.

Castle is also a verb. So cast castle will be like the moving of the king. There you go. Cast. All right. Ev style says still looking for sandwich prospects. Sent an email to spin the UFO. Really interested in making sandwiches for you guys. Donut and deli for life.

I think we're going to do a coffee shop first because we looked over the cost and we were like, coffee's probably the safest and fastest and easiest way to go. And there's a lot of interesting ideas we could do for it. You know, just undercut Starbucks

and put them next to them. I've been inundated with people who are excited to make sandwiches for us. So you guys are all displacing me. I'm just kidding. No, I have too many sandwich offers, and we'll figure it out. Well, what we need is someone who knows how to run a sandwich shop. We don't need someone who's like, I've made a sandwich before.

We need someone who's like, I know the equipment, the machinery, someone who's actually managed it. In fact, we need someone who's probably run one, and then we could do it. But, you know, we'll see. So let's wait, what? I can't read that super chat, so I'm going to

keep going. And September Thompson says the chicken party needs an animated Tim yelling chicken party. Well, here's the idea. We have an idea for the ultimate chicken party, which is we just recorded the Chicken City theme song. And so what will happen is if 10 chicken parties happen in one day,

an ultimate party happens where me and Ian walk in on both sides and Ian's banging the tambourine while we're both playing and singing the Chicken City theme song. That's so good. That's so good. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, proud of yous. Don't let them down. Forward the line. My friends,

if you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and head over to TimCast.com. We friends, if you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and head over to TimCast.com. We're going to have that bonus segment, members only, coming up at 11 p.m. And as a member, you are keeping our journalists employed. We hired a new journalist. We're hiring more. And you will allow us to do things like buy billboards and challenge the system.

So it's greatly appreciated. You can follow us at TimCastIRL, basically, everywhere. You can follow me at TimCastIRL basically. Everywhere you can follow me at TimCast. Do you want to shout anything out, Derek? No, I'd just like to thank everyone for letting me join you tonight. I think this is, you know, very quick-witted conversation, good insights,

very agile thinking, some good comedy and good impersonations, and I really enjoyed it. I'd love to be back. I'd like to bring my kids to see the compound. This is fantastic. We've got a great gig going here. When's the election happening?

July 19th, and we need a good turnout. I think the more people that turn out, the better, because we've got to get the base out, and we've got to go after the establishment candidates and challenge them. Right on. Do you have a website people could check out? VoteDerekHarvey.com. And you can also find me, Vote Derek Harvey, on Facebook.

Very cool. Right on. I am Seamus Coughlin. I do cartoons on a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes. We release a new cartoon every Thursday. We're working on one about Disney losing its special privileges and one about Musk buying Twitter. In fact, there's a good amount of material there.

We might do more than one on that topic. Go over there, subscribe, hit the notification bell, and thank you so much for watching. Ian Crossland, guys, thanks for coming out. Check me out on iancrossland.net if you want to get in touch somehow. And come over to timcast.com and check out the after show. See you later. Yeah, I just wanted to say, if you do go to voteforderrickharvey.com there's a really cute picture of him and his little family

on their tractor which is incredible and I also wanted to say people have been yelling at me and telling me that the MyPillow guy is back and that the Babylon Bee is back. I haven't seen that

the Babylon Bee is actually back. The Mike Lindell account that is back is not. A lot of fake accounts being made right now so watch out. Always do your due diligence and make sure you're

spreading the truth and making sure that everybody's on the correct page you guys can follow me on twitter we're all going down at sarah patch lids as well as minds.com and at sarah patch lids.me yeah a lot of fake accounts that people don't know is the timcast account is actually me it is stay away from that one yeah i'm actually not even on twitter not even there so every time he's trending it's actually Seamus wishes he was me on Twitter what?

I've got 1.1 million followers well I have no I actually I actually I gained a bunch of followers on my account yeah you did like 20,000 today

or whatever that's because Russia Heard Musk bought Twitter and now they're sending the bots in that's it alright everybody

head over to timcast.com become a member and we will see you all shortly. Bye guys.