Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #528 - Democrats FAIL To Pass Abortion Expansion, Roe Is DONE w/Julio Rosas

Episode Date: May 12, 2022

Tim, Ian, Seamus of FreedomToons, and Lydia join journalist and on-the-ground reporter Julio Rosas to discuss the GOP and Joe Manchin stopping the expansion of abortion 'rights', the Austrian clinic reporting American women attempting to illegally obtain abortion drugs internationally, the pro-abortion protestors surrounding Pelosi's home, how BLM numbers crashed during leftist rioting and the BLM leader spending donated funds to party. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Democrats have tried to expand abortion in the United States, pretending as though it was the codification of Roe v. Wade. It wasn't. What they actually proposed was a serious expansion, and it was blocked because Joe Manchin was like, nah, this is an expansion that would do away with like 500 different laws. It's not codifying what already exists. And he's right. I mean, you take a look at what they're proposing,

and it would allow third trimester abortion under the pretext of health. But there's a really interesting question about that. If it says after viability, so you're basically saying the baby is healthy and capable of surviving on its own viable, but you can kill it if the mother is sick. So this was a very rigid expansion, a very serious expansion. It's not going to make it through. Now, you've also got some Republicans offering up some kind of pro-choice bill, I guess you can call it pro-abortion bill. But the argument is

that Susan Collins says they need their own version because this version they tried to pass didn't provide exemptions for Catholic or Christian hospitals to not perform the abortions. So everything's just a mess, double standards from the left. And Joe Manchin quite literally was just like, you can't expand it. If you want to codify it, you do. So it's not happening. And so this, of course, is resulting in more outrage, more anger, more protest. Protesters, of course, descended on Nancy Pelosi's home after she praised it. So I can only say, I guess you reap what you sow. Granted, Nancy Pelosi is not a member of the court, so it's not illegal to protest there,

probably just unethical. And then we got inflation. It's really bad. It was 8.3. And many of these news outlets were like, that shows signs of cooling off. Except that's an opinion, which shouldn't be in a news piece. And with diesel prices at record highs and diesel shortages on the way now being reported, expect next month's reporting on inflation to be terrifying. But I'm sure most of you are already feeling it because you can't get baby formula. And hold on. If you're a conservative woman, you can't get baby formula. But if you're a liberal woman, you can't get cat food. I'm being for real.

Cat food and baby formula. So I'm like, it's hitting both sides. Everybody has cats. I have a cat. I'm just being a jerk. I don't have a cat we're gonna talk about all this i don't know i ain't no liberal woman i don't have a cat but i can be yeah bucko needs food joining joining us to discuss ultra maga and other things is julio rosas how you doing how's it going man all right who are you uh Just some guy. Just some guy.

How'd you get in here? Oh, I know how to get into places. It's kind of in my DNA. Oh, wow. Okay. Strong start, Julio. Strong start. You have a book.

Yes. Oh, yeah, that's right. That's the whole reason why I'm here. I wrote a book, Fiery but Mostly Peaceful, the 2020 Rights and Gaslighting of America. It came out last week, two years in the making, officially, talking about all the riots that I covered in 2020 and even a little bit into 2021 and detailing my experiences, but also the experiences of people who were impacted by it, which surprisingly, shockingly, was quite a lot of people, unfortunately.

And so I really wanted to... When everything started back in May, I didn't go into thinking, oh, I'm going to write a book about this. But as they continued and as they would get worse and then you see the media coverage and how slanted that was, and someone who was there,

I was in a very unique position to say, well, no, this is how it actually went. And then the other half of it was all my work is on is on twitter it's on town hall where i work uh but as we've seen with big tech and kind of the instability with social media as it is uh i wanted to have a physical medium out so that it's uh it is oral history uh for for this very tumultuous time. Fiery, but mostly peaceful. Thanks for coming. We also got Seamus. I am here tonight. I run a YouTube channel called

Freedom Tunes. We're going to be releasing another cartoon tomorrow. This one is going to be on Roe v. Wade. I think y'all are going to enjoy it. I am excited to talk to you about this book because I think a lot of people have forgotten just how terrifying the summer of 2020 was. It was almost as if as soon as it happened, we forgot about it. I'm excited'm excited to talk about it too. I had the feelings like,

why did he not send in the National Guard on day two? I don't know what your thoughts are. Maybe we'll get into it on the show. Ian Crossland, great to be here. And I am also here. I'm not a liberal woman, but I do have a cat. He is a wonderful cat. He's like a dog. He'll come sit with you while you're sick. If you want to see pictures of him, I have a bunch on my Instagram, which is Sarah Patch Leitman. Hold on. He'll sit with you while you're sick if you want to see pictures of him i have a bunch on my instagram which is sarah patch lagerman hold on he'll sit with you when you're sick yeah he knows when you're sick after i get my mri so come and chill with me he's waiting for me to die i know so he can eat my eyeballs i still love him don't assume a positive motivation when you're dealing with cats and don't forget head over to timcast.com and become a member to help support

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Quote, Make no mistake, it is not Roe v. Wade codification. It is an expansion. It wipes 500 state laws off the books, said Senator Joe Manchin. So let's just do this. That's simple. The Democrats were acting like this was going to be federal codification of Roe v. Wade. That's not true. And I will just go straight to it with section four of the bill, which is three, seven, five, five, which states there can be no limitations or requirements on a prohibition on abortion after fetal viability. When in the good faith, medical judgment of the treating health care provider, continuation of the pregnancy would pose a risk to the pregnant patient, patient's life or

health. I just want to pause real quick and assess that provision right there and just say it says after viability, meaning the baby can survive. You're saying you can terminate the baby even if it could survive because the mother's health may be at risk. I understand if their argument is end the pregnancy, if it said end the pregnancy but preserve the life of the baby. But it doesn't say that. Quite literally, they're like, we can kill a baby if the woman would be medically harmed by the pregnancy. Why not just take the baby out and let it live? Maybe they're assuming that if the removal of the baby would kill the woman,

but either way, they're going to have to take the body out, whether it's alive or not. Exactly. Also, this idea of an exemption for health, this is a term which is used very vaguely, so they're actually able to say something along the lines of, well, we have determined that this woman might be negatively affected with respect to something like depression if she has a child. Therefore, the abortion is a medical necessity. I think it's just they need to meet their blood quotas to sacrifice to Moloch.

Yeah, I'm starting to agree. That's all it is. Blood quotas to Moloch. But I think it has to be in person, so I don't know if it would count. Oh, yeah, okay. I think you're wrong. Blood lust is no joke. That's from eating all the animal meat. I don't know if that would count. Oh, yeah. I think you're wrong. Blood lust is no joke. That's from eating all the animal meat.

I don't think so. There are a lot of people who eat animal meat that don't kill babies. It's got crazy real fast. Yeah. It's a good strength. Talking about the history of humans. I'm just...

That was a joke. I just made a joke. I'm joking. I liked it. Opened up a can of worms right there. Wow. Can you tell if this meant like if the woman would die if the baby was taken out of the body at eight months or is this like if the woman would survive if the baby was taken out of the body at eight months,

or is this like if the woman would survive if the body was taken out? After viability, it's the weirdest thing. What is viability? It means the baby can survive on its own. Without like a breathing apparatus or like an incubator or something? There are humans that are considered viable humans that need a breathing apparatus. Viability just means the baby can survive without the mother at this point. Maybe that does mean they got to put it in an ICU and a respirator or something.

I just, I really don't get the argument that it's like this baby could survive, but we should kill it. I don't, I genuinely don't get it. I don't understand. I mean, it's the purpose though, when you think about it, because most people,

they're not going out and having an abortion because they feel as if something is living off their body that they don't want to live off their body. It's because they don't want to be a parent. So viability or non-viability isn't really a relevant argument to them. But it also just speaks to why they haven't actually gone forward. I mean, they could have codified it for the past 50 years, but they're not going to. Because it puts Democrats in this weird position on where exactly they draw this line.

And clearly they drew the line. It's like so far out of field that we get someone like Joe Manchin. Manchin is like he is the savior of the Democratic Party. The reason they don't codify Roe v. Wade is that they need it as a wedge issue. So all of a sudden Joe Manchin comes along and he's like, oh, I can't do it. And all the Democrats are like, we're trying, but Joe Manchin won't let us. Vote for us and we'll keep trying. Exactly, exactly.

And the Republicans do the same thing they did with Obamacare. They could have repealed it, but they were like, no, no, no, no, don't do it. Don't do it. It riles people up. So do you think it's convenient for them that Joe Manchin is standing in the way, or do you believe that he is actually actively trying to impede it for that reason? I think it's a perfect storm. Look, Joe Manchin's a west virginia democrat which means

he's got to be moderate to right leaning on these issues exactly if but i i gotta be honest i don't see joe manchin getting re-elected that just sounds insane to me at this point this west virginia went like 86 for trump this dude i just don't see it so he might just be like i'll play my role you know make give the Democrats a chance to keep complaining about these things and never do anything about it. I pulled up an article from Washington Post that says fetal viability is generally considered to be around 23 or 24 weeks, which is like, what is that five to six months, and there's no universal consensus, some hospitals will resuscitate the baby actively treat babies born 22nd week.

So it's somewhere around there. I don't know where they got this data but this is washington post so i can understand if there's a baby that's considered viable at a certain age and the mom's like dying for some reason and they're like we're gonna we're gonna abort the pregnancy and then the baby dies i'm like okay well you know these things happen they were trying to save life i just don't understand the idea that they don't explain that they don't break it down there's no there should be limitations there it should be that It should include in that provision and an attempt to save the life of the baby should be made. There's a big difference between six-month viability and eight-month viability. You're like a human being ready to just bounce outside the skin at nine months. So, like, I don't know.

The word viability is very weird because if the power goes out, then what does that word even mean anymore? So if a baby is born at eight months, but they need to be hooked up to a respirator or a breathing machine and the power goes out, could you make the same argument? You'd have to say like,

well, we don't have a breathing machine. Can this thing survive on its own with modern technology, which in this theoretical situation would be no electricity. What is it called? What's the pump they call it?

You put it on your face and pump it? It's like a, it's a respirator. The pump face mask. Yeah. The pump face mask. That's exactly it. That's the medical term, it? You put it on your face and pump it? It's like a respirator. A respirator? A mask. The pump face mask. Yeah. The pump face mask.

That's exactly it. That's the medical term, actually. Yeah, it's true. But they could put that on the baby and boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. You have to sit there. Pump face mask it. Yeah. So if oxygen goes out, then you need to figure something else out. And one of the options would be this mask that they use when they're performing resuscitation.

When they're performing CPR, they use this. It's a handheld mask to to deliver breaths to someone. You can help someone breathe if the power goes out. I just need to do it. Are Republicans going to try and do the inverse and ban abortion federally? That's a good question. I'm not sure. Yeah, I mean, I hope so.

But I think the Republican Party is really pretty weak. But I mean, I mean, the whole point of Roe versus Wade is that it gives it back to the state. So, I mean, ending Roe v. Wade is that it gives it back to the state. Ending Roe v. Wade. Yeah, or returning it. So, I mean, ultimately that would – because that's the whole reason why we're kind of in this mess in the first place in terms of this freakish outrage and them going to Supreme Court Justice's House because there's this misconception that Roe v. Wade ends and then all of a sudden there's no more abortions just anywhere and and so i think at least on the state on the state level obviously a place like not like california is not going to do that because it's just so heavily damned but you would think that the states would that are republican controlled so then maybe then republicans on the federal level wouldn't feel that pressure necessarily i think this attempt right here i mean democrats just

lost any any any i guess the idea is we tried to do it but because of mansion you better go vote which i just don't see being reality they're making it about the filibuster yeah because well they could get best filibuster anyway well exactly pointless it's pointless well then that's because they they always just fall back to the filibuster because they have no other thing to fall back on when their things fail. So was there a filibuster involved in this process? Nope. They just didn't get the votes.

But even if they did, the filibuster wouldn't allow it. They would need 60 votes. It's not going to happen. So there was this really funny thread from Politico where this Democrat was talking about the economy and giving a speech to other Democratic Party members and politicians. And it was like the other Democrats were shocked. And other Democratic Party members and politicians. And it was like the other Democrats were shocked and they were like, but nothing. This is not coming up in the polls. Like, who cares about inflation in the economy?

And they were like trying to explain to them it's the economy, stupid. But you actually have Democrats who are sitting there right now being like, if there's one thing every American truly cares about this election, it's abortion. Meanwhile, there's a guy like, I have no gas. And they're like, but abortion. Another i'm hungry yes yes but abortion and then someone says there's no baby formula you could have aborted it's like it's fair that's their argument and and not only abortion right so i've said before i mean it's all murder but if you're going to look at the perspective of your average American person, there are even many people who would consider themselves to be in favor of it or not in favor of banning it who would say nine months, that's pretty insane.

But that's the hill that they're choosing to die on right now. We're more less restrictive than Europe. I mean, we had that whole funny clip of Bill Maher this week saying, I didn't know this. Did you know this? And his panelists were, no, we didn't know this. Did you know this? No, we didn't know this. About how more restrictive they are. Bill Maher has made it so sad.

The end of his career is basically like, are you guys hearing about this thing that happened years ago? I just found out about this thing called the Google. It's like, Bill, Bill, we had the conversation about Europe two months ago. This dude doesn't have Google.

He's never heard of it. He has rules. New rule. Yeah. New rule, everyone. You need to Google search something before you talk about it on your show. Okay. Let's give Bill credit.

He is just the human version of Microsoft Explorer. It's fine. It's not a big deal. It's how he rolls. You mentioned, Seamus, that abortion is murder. Technically, it's not. It's not a big deal. You mentioned, Seamus, that abortion is murder. Technically, it's not. It's just a type of killing right now. But just for specifics,

you could be pedantic. You feel like it's murder, but it's legally not murder. I mean, everyone that was killed in the Holocaust was murdered, even though it was legal. You could argue that, too. But murder is a specific legal definition. It's like when Stewie on Family Guy said, it's like uh you could argue that too but i mean murder is a specific legal definition it's like when stewie had family guy said it's not that i want to kill lois it's that i don't want her to be alive anymore i want her not to be alive no being so so murder is if i understand an

unlawful killing and i'm saying the law of our nation might not protect those lives but that's no law at all yeah i see you understand you You think it is murder, but legally it's not. According to our country, our country's laws are not recognizing it. But our laws are wrong. That's the whole problem in the first place is why it doesn't recognize it as such. I think it's really stupid to define murder as unlawful. But I understand why they would because the death penalty, like they argue, is legal. But I still think you could call all of these things murder. Well – Like the intentional killing of another person. War is where it's like – they're not murderers in war.

They're killers, but they're not murderers. I think they're all murderers. Oh, man. No way. No. If you're protecting yourself and someone's attacking you and you kill them, you're not a murderer. That's true. That's true.

That's true. But I think the point is, Ian, so if you like – The intentional – We're in the USSR putting people up against the wall, technically that was legal. Oh, you're right. But I wouldn't say, oh, they're not a murderer because that was legal. That person is still a murderer. This is a good point.

I would say maybe it's the aggressive, intentional killing of another person. Even then, war, like you go into a machine gun nest and wipe everybody out with a grenade intentionally. Based. Yeah, that's not murder. You're killing for a living, you know? That is an interesting point. I wonder where we could find the, like, where's the actual line and what would be a murder? Sure.

I mean, but I would still definitely say an innocent unborn child, you kill them, you fall into the category of somebody who's committed murder. You made an excellent point that a government could make it legal and then do it and say, hey, it's not murder because we made it legal. But, like, just because it's legal doesn't mean it's right or good exactly exactly well if you look at like communist china i dare say that the mountains of skulls there and in like pol potts cambodia would say a different story because those were technically just victims of the government it wasn't really a murder right i mean yeah our baby's victim of the government was even

victim right it wasn't even victim well they wouldn't say they're victims it was necessary cleansing of of undesirables everybody wants to justify why they get to kill somebody exactly that's suspicious i understand war though in times of war consider everything out the window you want to talk about your rights good luck when you're in a war you can talk all day and night about the rights you do have and i think a person has inalienable rights, but someone with force can try to infringe upon those rights, and you'll have to fight for them. That's why I thought it was funny when I was in the Marine Corps and going through the training because we were taught the Geneva Conventions and the rights that we had under that, and I'm just thinking, who would actually recognize that? Who's going to recognize it? No one's going to recognize that. I mean, if we're truly going up against an enemy that hates us.

I was talking about Vietnam the other day and I brought up the My Lai Massacre. I don't know if you guys are aware. It was one of the greatest massacres perpetrated by American troops ever in the history of the United States. I think 500 Vietnamese villagers, women, children, were burned alive and killed by like 100 troops.

Like a bunch of guys. It wasn't like 20. It was a bunch of them. Helicopter gunships it wasn't like 20. Yeah, it was a bunch of them. I think it was helicopter gunships were mowing people down. I think it was a company. Only one guy got in trouble, William Laws Calley Jr. He was a lieutenant, and they charged him with life in prison, multiple life in prison. Three days later, Nixon commuted his sentence and sentenced him to house arrest,

and then he never really got—no one got in trouble for it. Because it's like when you're at war, the Geneva Convention is out... I mean, for the most part, out the window. You do what you've got to do to survive. These guys had snapped psychologically and took it out on the villagers. But, like, you put them in the jungle and you make them go crazy, how can you really blame them for it? I don't know. That's a tough question.

Let me pull up this story we got from the Daily Mail. Austrian clinic that ships abortion pills to the U.S. claims it has received thousands of calls from women, especially in southern states, wanting to stock up on the drug after SCOTUS's Roe v. Wade ruling was leaked. You know what's crazy about this? In the bill the Democrats tried to pass, it says there can be no restrictions on abortion via telemedicine. I was like, how do you do abortion over the phone they prescribe your pills yeah to terminate the pregnancy i wonder what's going to happen seriously with the illegal distribution of abortion pills i mean people are gonna do it women are going to they're

doing it now already is the government going to send out you know state troopers or federal police to go and arrest these women for ordering stuff? Are abortion pills going to be treated like crack cocaine or something? Yeah, that's a good question. I'm not sure what the exact surrounding legislation is going to be. I know, according to some figures I've seen, there was as much as a 60% decline in the rate of abortions in Texas. So we know that restrictions will prevent them from occurring in some number of instances, and they are pretty effective. But, of course, there are going to be some people who find a way around the law.

Yeah, and of those, what did we say, 60% reduction? That's what I saw. Those are the numbers I saw. A lot of those just might be unreported abortions happening now that aren't being reported. Or they go to a neighboring state. Numerically, it can be tricky. Let's have the feminist triggering conversation. Should men be allowed to abort their paternal responsibilities in a world in which there's unfettered abortion? So let me phrase.

Obviously, I think the more conservative people would say, no, fathers should not abandon their kids. that women do, let's say the law is passed, abortion up to nine months is legal, would you also need to codify that men could be like, I hereby abort my responsibility? Lydia, as a woman. I'm not entirely sure about that. I was just thinking about that. That is an interesting question. I do think that if a mother has the right, so- from the emanations and penumbra's of the constitution to execute their poor unborn child that a father should definitely have some say in whether he has to support a baby i don't know the idea is if it's like my body my choice and it's like okay if you

then choose to have a baby and you could choose not to, which means killing the baby, then it is much less morally ambiguous for a father to say, I choose not to have a baby because he's not killing it at that point. Well, I think what's absolutely true about this is when something like abortion is legalized and normalized, you do see a breakdown of the family. So if a woman does not have the obligation to care for her own unborn child, what obligation does a man have to care for his child? And I think that there's a sort of consistency there. But then I would also say that it's a consistency towards the direction of evil and two wrongs don't make a right. Ultimately, if fathers were able to abandon their children after they impregnated a woman without there being any potential ramification or any way for her to sue for child support we would probably see even more abortions but how how many progressive or liberal women do you think would advocate for men having the right to say i have nothing to do with this baby it's a good question many yeah well they would want the child support they would say you owe me money well and that's why it's so funny when liberals

are you know this past week have been saying well well then if you're going to force them to have have kids and then the father has to be just as involved and all the conservatives are saying yes, absolutely. I know. Again, it just shows just how kind of we're obviously it's not just limited to abortion. It happens with every single topic, but people just

talk past each other and they don't really know what the other side actually wants. It is the rule. It is a tendency of the right to not know the left's argument but the rule is they typically they should say they typically do and it is the rule on the left they don't know the right's argument that's why the left there's this meme going around where it's like it's for us a four panel comic where someone says my religion says i can't do this and the person says good for you then the person says my religion says you can't

do this and they say f off and i'm like you realize that means no gay marriage in churches and no abortions at religious hospitals because if you're saying okay to someone who says my religion says i can't do this no cakes for you no no no no gay message cakes no trans cakes no abortions at religious hospitals and no marriages at churches that say no. They clearly don't agree with that. They don't even know their own arguments. No, they literally don't. I like cake. Well, also, the thing that I love about this is all of these hot takes about how men should

have to take care of their children if they get a woman pregnant. They'll tweet something like, well, if abortion isn't legal, then a man who gets a woman pregnant has a responsibility to stay with her and care for the child. Like, it sounds like something me disguised as a liberal would say. Like, hey, guys, you know what? I think these men should have an obligation to take care of the child that they make. And they're like, yeah. That's just marriage with extra steps.

I think if the man gets her pregnant, then he should swear an oath till death do them part. And you know what? I think he should financially provide for her. And she should have the opportunity to stay home and raise that child. I think she should be at home raising that child. If conservatives want to ban abortion, then we have to have traditional marriage. Oh, no. Anything but that.

Your terms are acceptable. They're arguing on your behalf for the next step of your argument. I know. That's why it's like, guys, the pro-choice side, which is – I mean like the literal traditional liberal types who are sitting there confused like shrugging. They're left out of this. And the overt pro-abortion side, which is like late term, terminate the baby, whatever, they don't even know what they're arguing against. They're so far left, they can't see where the right is. So they've looped back and said, traditional marriage must be enforced if you take away

our right so there's this idea called horseshoe theory i've coined a term that i call this merry-go-round theory i mean eventually they just go so far to the left that they get to the right but then they keep going back around to the left it's not like they stay at a reasonable position someone in the chat actually said seamus three rights a left. So we need to get to three. Exactly. That's a magic number. It's kind of remarkable how the left has gone so far left, they've become racial identitarians,

where they're actually just like now advocating for segregation, and they've begun advocating for traditional marriage as a point against conservatives who want, it's like, We'll show you. They're going around again, merry-go-round theory. When I thought, I think of like, The center stays there just like watching it happen like i guess the biggest part well the biggest part of the question is do you want the babies to be able to be killed or not maybe for certain people but i think it's do you want the government involved in these decisions and yes

if i've always thought child support made sense like if a dad if a guy goes out and gets five women pregnant and then he just goes off to santa barbara and to live on the beach and smoke pot like he has you know he did some he's created like he has to follow through with what he's done It's five women pregnant, and then he just goes off to Santa Barbara to live on the beach and smoke pot. He has – he did some – he's created – he has to follow through with what he's done. If women have the right to terminate the pregnancy and the man says, I'm out, then they have a choice to say, okay, me too. So this is the point. Yeah, explain that a little bit. I'm not – I don't quite understand.

If women have the absolute right to end a pregnancy because it's their body, then there is no legal argument for the man having any responsibility at all. The woman gets pregnant. She says, this is your fault. You got me pregnant. He says, you could always choose to get rid of it. Have a nice day and leave. We'd have a lot of unmarried pregnancies. And I got to be honest, I think the left would actually be okay with that. I think in the long run, yeah, they would adopt that position because ultimately they'll support anything that denigrates the family or familial responsibility. But there was a meme that said the reason they won't accept that position is because it takes power away from the woman if the woman gets pregnant she gets to choose whether or not the man is is going to provide her or not right so with marriage you have two people who have to make an agreement with the current laws the woman can choose to terminate the baby or keep it, and the man has no choice whatsoever.

So pro-choice people are not pro-choice. They're pro-abortion. They're pro-abortion. Because if they were pro-choice, it would involve the man's right to choose whether or not he wants to be a part of her family. Well, I just see it as because when I was covering the pro-abortion protests outside Alito's home earlier this week, I was calling them that. They were pro-abortion protesters that were at this house, and some people were just saying,

oh, you're being so disingenuous by calling them pro-abortion. They're pro-choice. And so the choice to do what? Yeah. It's like when the people are like, the Civil War wasn't about slavery. It's about states' rights. States' rights to what? No, exactly.

And so, I mean, I just view it as that's what they're advocating. I mean, that's the whole, they're not. Can I make one point real quick? No. Okay, all right. Well, then. No, no, no. This whole point you just made here where they would claim it was disingenuous for you to call them pro-abortion instead of pro-choice,

that logic can be extended to literally any political position. I'm not pro-gun. I'm just pro a person choosing to have a gun. You have to call gun rights advocates pro-choice now. You can't call us pro-gun. You have to call us pro-choice. I'm pro-choice on guns. Yeah, exactly.

People should have a right to choose. And I have no problem saying I'm pro-gun. I am pro-gun. Exactly. Why won't they say pro-abortion? Because they know it's evil. We had in the TimCast newsroom some articles that were like saying pro-life, pro-abortion, anti-abortion, pro-choice, anti-choice, whatever. I don't know if we've ever said anti-choice. But I was just like,

I saw a few articles and I thought to myself, we shouldn't use pro-life or pro-choice. Those are political terms. We should just refer to the groups and what they advocate for in that time. So when the left goes out and like, we are pro-choice. And I'm like, no, you're pro-abortion. Because I could name a million circumstances where you don't have you don't care about a person's right to choose anything. Vaccine mandates is very obvious. And they say, yeah, well, pro-lifers aren't pro-life because they're for the death penalty. And I'm like, yeah, we're going to call them anti-abortion. If you are at a protest and you're like abortion should not be allowed, you are an anti-abortion protester. Saying pro-life is a political term. And I'm not going to make an argument about what

life means or what choice means. If you go out, you say, we want abortion, you're pro-abortion. If you say no abortion, you're anti-abortion. We're done. That's it. Yeah, well, it's funny because they will usually try to use terms like anti-abortion as a smear, as if it's something to be ashamed of that I'm against abortion. Oh, no. Also, they'll also use terms like pro-birth, like you're not pro-life, you're just pro-birth.'re just pro-birth i'm like yes you maniac what is wrong with being pro-birth like because they don't know what your argument is yeah and so they say like i just when i see all these memes on facebook i'm like it's so frustrating because they've never talked to a conservative about this and then so i can see this and i can i'll say something like they'll say something ridiculous like it's about power and old white men and then i'll say something ridiculous like it's about power and old white men. And then I'll say something like actually the majority of pro-life people tend to be women, females.

And it's actually really simple because there's slightly more women in this country. You can call it whatever you want. And then they'll say, you're a right winger. And I'm like, I'm just trying to tell you what they're saying because you're not talking to them. But they don't. When it comes to pro-choice, I think the reason that we're going to use because some people will say, I don't want an abortion. I'm not going to get one. But I don't think the government has a pro-choice, I think the reason that we're going to use, because some people will say, I don't want an abortion. I'm not going to get one. But I don't think the government has a right to stop other people from deciding that stuff.

Does that mean? Hold on. What if you have a five-year-old and you lose your job and you can't afford it anymore? Are you pro-choice? Well, it depends on how you feel. Well, should the government be involved in whether or not you strangle your kid to death because you're broke and can't afford the kid? Good question. What if you have a nine-month-old baby?

Like it's been out of the womb for gestation for nine months, nine months in fresh air. And then one day you're like, I have no money. Should you have a right to choose? Oh, I think that when you say pro-life, it's implicit that it's only when you're talking about the abortion conversation. That's why I said we won't use either in the context of these protests. Timcast.com won't say a pro-life protester or pro-choice we'll say anti-abortion or pro-abortion someone who shows up and says i'm pro-life it's like it's a political term but and there are many areas of life you are

not saying all life is sacred i would say like if i'm pro-choice and i'm but i don't think the government should get involved but i'd be happier if no one ever got an abortion that i'm not pro abortion i think abortion is horrific you're not pro-choice well i don't think the government should get involved. But I'd be happier if no one ever got an abortion. I'm not pro-abortion. I think abortion is horrific. You're not pro-choice. Well, I don't want the government to be like, you can't decide what to do with your body. So can I ask you, so if you were someone who is in favor of the Second Amendment and strong gun rights, but you didn't personally own the gun, would we not still call you pro-gun? We wouldn't just say, well, he's pro-choice. He's pro-allowing to choose, you know, allow someone to choose whether they're going to own a gun. We don't do this. Yeah, we don't do this well he's pro-choice he's pro allowing to choose you know allow someone to

choose whether they're going to own a gun we don't do this yeah we don't do this with any other political conversation what the pro-choice yeah well it's a second tier conversation it's a second tier label already the abortion topic is already there you want to know why they call themselves pro-choice because it sounds better than pro-abortion absolutely yeah because abortion is like the actual procedure and also a lot of people don't want to get abortions that feel like the government shouldn't be involved in the pro-life sounds better than anti-abortion. Granted, pro-choice, in my opinion, sounds worse. Like pro-abortion sounds worse than than anti-abortion sounds. But these are political terms meant to garner support.

I look at it this way. What does it mean to be pro-life in a general sense? I do not believe it encompasses all life. I certainly think there's an argument from conservatives about some people through due process forfeiting their right to life, the death penalty. I can understand that. But I don't think that is part of the conversation. So I don't like the term pro-life. It's a broad generalization.

Pro-life is an abuse. Anti-abortion is fine. You oppose abortion. Seamus, are you anti-abortion? Yeah, I am. And I'm fine with anti-abortion is fine. You oppose abortion. Seamus, are you anti-abortion? Yeah, I am. And I'm fine with anti-abortion as a label, but I still think pro-life is consistent because my desire to be anti-abortion, it comes from an understanding that all human life is precious and sacred. So I'm just very pro-human life. And so my issue is the conversation around the death penalty is not a part of the pro- or anti-abortion argument. So if there are protesters outside saying abortion should be banned,

I'm not going to be like, interesting, the signs they're holding up send a strong message about the death penalty. Because it doesn't. You don't know their position on the death penalty based on them saying they're opposing abortion. That's why I'm like, if there was a protest for or against the death penalty, we'd say pro and anti-death penalty. Yeah, exactly.

So the pro-life only is in the reference of abortion is what that means, and pro-choice is only in the reference of abortion. Nobody says – no leftist goes to an anti-death penalty protest holding up pro-life signs. Right. If you were to go talk about the death penalty – To be fair, if that language was not already being used in the abortion debate, they probably would. Yeah, maybe. In the context that I've seen is that because I've been covering the southern border crisis a lot, especially since the last time I was on here,

no one who advocates for what the Biden administration is doing, which is essentially opening up the southern border to illegal immigration, they're not going to say they're pro-open borders. They're going to say they're pro-immigrant. They're pro-asylum seekers, even though when you break that down into who's crossing and how are they crossing and what are they doing after they illegally cross an international border. It gets into these word games. I will

say though I am pro-breakfast burrito. Yeah, me too. I think we can all agree on that. What percentage of pro-life individuals, conservatives, do you think would take issue with being told they were anti-abortion and having that label on them?

That's a good question. I don't think anyone who's against abortion would be upset being called anti-abortion. And I can tell you, I don't know, I can't speak for everyone. I can tell you outright that when I say pro-abortion, they lose their minds.

They say, no, we're not. That's exactly what I've been experiencing these past few weeks on random Twitter views. This is what David Pakman tweeted. He says, where are the pro-abortion people? I saw that. And then Hassan made a joke, and he was like, me, I'm trying to do this.

And then I screen grabbed it, and then he accused me of not understanding it was a joke. And I was like, I thought it was funny, actually, because other people took it seriously. It wasn't me who took it seriously. I just screen grabbed it. And then he accused me of taking it seriously. But David's own followers took it seriously. But the point is when they say, who are these pro-abortion people, they all go, we're not pro-abortion. We're just saying it should be allowed.

And it's like I'm not for drugs. I'm just saying everyone should be allowed to have one. But part of what was particularly hilarious about that thread with Pac-Man was it wasn't just, you know, Hassan responding to it. There were many, many people in the replies getting a lot of like saying things like, well, of course I'm pro abortion,

just like I'm pro any other medical procedure. What's wrong with abortion? Just completely destroying his argument. Or the people saying there are too many people in the world's dying. Why are you having kids anyway? All right. So down Bill Gates. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, he got COVID. Let's talk about Nancyancy pelosi yeah nancy you reap what you sow pro-abortion activist process protest outside of speaker nancy pelosi's san francisco mansion now it wasn't the biggest crowd ever it was like seven people i guess so it's small right but but understand that's a a very serious security issue. It is. It really, really is, especially like, you know, I think it's wrong to do.

I don't think people should be going to the homes of anybody. It's like we got to have areas that are sacred. But you know what, Nancy? She praised the protesters who are going out to the homes of the Supreme Court justices. Chuck Schumer, same thing. The president encouraged it. I love the Hill ran this piece that says Joe Biden encourages illegal protests in front of justices homes or whatever. And I'm just like, yo, the rule of law has broken down. But at the very least,

you see something like this. You reap what you sow. Nancy Pelosi probably doesn't care, though, because you, you taxpayer are paying her security bills so she can advocate for it all day and night people will then show up and she'll be like see i don't care and then the money we spend funds the security to keep her safe when people show up at her house i don't understand why these people are uh at her house right now did she say something that pissed them off oh i think they're there she's supporting henry cuyar and uh the district that represents Laredo, Texas, right on the border. He's one of the last pro-life Dems. I'm sorry, anti-abortion.

Pro-life Dem, whatever. And so there's been, on the progressive side of things, there's been a lot of people who have been upset at Pelosi saying, why are you supporting Henry Cuellar when you're trying to talk about preventing Roe v. Wade from being overturned? So I didn't see this until just now, but I'm going to assume that's part of the reason why. I think it might actually just be that there is no logical argument. There is just power. If it's good for the revolution, it's good. If it's bad for the revolution, it's bad.

And Nancy Pelosi is in a seat of power, and they would prefer one of their political tribesmen or whatever to be in that seat of power. Well, I mean, I was just covering a pro-abortion protest in Los Angeles, and this was very far-left people, not just mainstream Democrats. And they were pissed at Democrats. They don't view them as technically on their side, the far left. This was the Party for Socialism and Liberation. That was like the group that organized it.

So, I mean, we see the fringes, right? The fringes don't view the mainstream political parties as being different. They view them as one and the same. I'm going to plug the book here really quick. I talk about that in the book when it comes to Antifa and some of the Chaz occupiers during that time. But to bring it back, I think that's why, again, I don't know who was there and who organized that, but that could be just another thing, too, where they just view Pelosi being part of the political establishment and the political establishment is all one and the same. I think there is going to be a reckoning of all reckonings in this country.

We have this story from Postmillennial that goes along with this. Glenn Youngkin slammed for lackluster response to protests outside SCOTUS Justice's home. Yeah, Glenn Youngkin said, we're going to do a security perimeter. And everyone's like, yo, 18 USC, blah, blah, blah, whatever, says you can't demonstrate to try and influence a court or a judge or whatever. And they're doing it and they get away with it. And the media comes out and acts like, egad, the far right has called for the arrest of people who've broken the law.

They got Will Chamberlain, Jack Posobiec, me, and a few other people in this Daily Beast fake news article. gad the far right has called for the arrest of people who've broken the law and they they they they got will chamberlain jack posobic me and a few other people in this daily beast fake news article where i'm just like was it patrizio did he write that maybe i don't know there was a dude from occupy who tweeted at me and he was like 10 years ago you would have defended this peaceful protest and i was like 10 years ago i filmed people deflating police tires and said if you do something in public you get seen doing it. Like, take responsibility for your actions. And that nonviolent civil disobedience results in you getting arrested.

I've always maintained that position. It's like, it's so weird. The far left has gone so far left. They're like, Tim, you would have agreed with our more extreme position. What happened? And I'm like, no, no, no, you don't understand. My position hasn't changed. You changed.

You used to think we agreed because we did. And then you left and said, why don't you agree with me anymore? I think these people should be arrested. I think the police should walk up, take their hands very slowly, put them in cuffs, bring them into the police van or whatever, take them to the station. They get charged with their little misdemeanor, you know, protest charge. The judge says, don't let me catch you there again. They get a court supervision ruling, which means basically nothing. It means don't let me catch you there again they get a court supervision ruling which means basically nothing it means don't go back and they made their point

they got press but they got arrested and then if they go back and get arrested again they get a harder sentence yeah but it's usually like a weekend well okay and so the the idea is there has to be limitations we have to say for these reasons we have made something illegal. But just because something is law doesn't mean it's right. We talked about that with murder. Many countries with despots were like the law allows us to do it. It's wrong. There are many laws that I think are wrong. So what do you do? Nonviolent civil disobedience. You should get a slap on the wrist. I mean, obviously, depending on the severity. But I mean, like if someone's going to picket, protest, parade or otherwise, they shouldn't do it at someone's house.

I think that's unethical. I think that's immoral. But if they do, it is also, at a judge's house, illegal. And we have to have the police say, this is codified law. I don't think these people's lives should be over. I don't think they should get a year in jail.

That's the maximum. I think the judge should be like, court supervision. Let me not see you here again. Tim, enforcing the law is insurrection. I'm oh yeah it's bad for our democracy i found a good way to change uh the unjust law it's great the united states is awesome because of 50 states 50 different legal systems kind of so you if it's legal in one state and illegal in the neighboring state you do it in the legal state and you communicate with people where it's illegal in

the illegal state and you change their minds while you're doing it where it's legal. And then you have the opportunity to kind of change the law that way without actually having to go disobey directly. This is why I think overturning Roe v. Wade is actually very important. It allows for this decentralized testing pool of law. The 50 states, it's quite brilliant. Each state has jurisdiction over their state to set laws. To a certain degree, I respect Supreme Court precedent on protecting constitutional rights. I think that I say to a certain degree because I think they get things wrong sometimes.

I think the NFA should never have been allowed. The Supreme Court should have struck all that down. But even Alito was like, there are limitations. No, I'm sorry, not Alito, Scalia. So the idea is Texas has laws. New York has different laws. Eventually, we can actually look at the data and be like, which place is better? Granted, there's different terrain.

There's different resources. But allowing people to decide for themselves in their own areas, I think, actually would help preserve the union, would help make people live together better. Because if you're like, I don't want to live in Texas. These laws, I'm going to move somewhere else. Well, New York's awaiting. They're going to welcome you with open arms. make people live together better because you know if you're like i don't want to live in texas these laws i'm going to move somewhere else well new york's awaiting they're welcome they're going to welcome you with open arms chicago says abortion oasis if you don't like what texas or oklahoma or whatever is doing you can go right to illinois and then you get carjacks perhaps as you're

driving hold on everywhere outside of chicago is red so you can go to a red area and you're probably going to be fine less population deaths I do think there are there are important distinctions in what should be federally protected across the board like non-discrimination on the basis of race, sex, national origin

etc. the 1964 Civil Rights Act I think that makes sense but here's my favorite point in all of this. At these protests, there is no equality under the law. I see this as a clear violation of the 14th Amendment and that these people are not being arrested. Equality under the law means that if you break the law, you are held equal, same as everybody else, right? These people are arguing that the 14th Amendment equality under the law guarantees a woman's right to abortion due to her right to privacy and medical choices. At the same time, they're actively defending that they don't get criminally charged under

existing statute, which is not equality under the law. So don't come to me and say the 14th Amendment guarantees shut up until you say arrest me because I did break the law. I don't believe you're serious and you're only trying to seize power and you're a liar you're liars well i mean look they're used to being above the law i know you know a lot about this given the book that you have written i'm curious if uh you see any of this as being a fallout from 2020 or no i mean absolutely and and not not to get too headed but i mean the reason why there's so much concern about more riots or some level of unrest if roe v. Wade is actually overturned is because when you look at how much people were able to get away with on such a large scale in 2020 in terms of looting, in terms of attacking police officers, in terms of just general lawlessness, I mean, they were able to get away with a lot. And even the ones that were arrested, I mean, Portland's like the prime example, but it happened in other places like New York City and Chicago and so on and so forth.

And so that's why, you know, why wouldn't they run the same playbook? Because not only are they going to get favorable media coverage like they already have, and not only are they going to get the blessing of Democrats like right now, there's a very good chance of not facing any consequences if they do anything very severe so I mean we part of the reason for the book is to explain how we got here as a country and we are

we've lost the plot on just so many things and we are in such a worse position to be able to confront not even just like issues of racism or abortion but it's just because people saw violence worked to to a degree it's okay why not just continue that when we don't get what we want yeah so what was the most shocking part about the 2020 riots to you as someone who's done

extensive research on this so it was the main my main takeaway was just how fragile society is and it's it's pretty fragile i mean and when we look at i mean 2020 was also just such a unique My main takeaway was just how fragile society is. And it's pretty fragile. I mean, when we look at, I mean, 2020 was also just such a unique year, right? Because we had the emergency COVID. We don't know too much about it and all this panic around it. And then we also had a very heated presidential election. And then there was a spark with George Floyd. So when you get these conditions just right, and that's why since the Derek Chauvin trial,

there hasn't been really anything crazy happening because there have been instances where I thought, oh, a police action, that's controversial, maybe I should go to that city, and then nothing happens. But because there needs to be more buildup, kind of. You know, the country has gone through these cycles of buildup and then and then raged with you know the summer riots in 68 67 uh then we look at ferguson and then and then now and then now with minneapolis in 2020 2021 so even if you know there's no mass violence post overturning roe v wade i i would say that it's kind of more like a jenga block that's put into the build-up to that to where then maybe 2024 and that presidential election,

and what will the country look like then? Are we going to be in severe economic depression and downturn? And then when you put people in these extreme positions, through no fault of their own especially, they're going to do crazy things. And doing these lockdowns, I think, definitely contributed to 2020 because what was happening around, just the timing of everything. It was late May, especially in a place like Minneapolis. It was warming up.

People were tired of staying home. People lost their jobs because of the lockdowns. And so it was just a perfect tinderbox, essentially, that all it needed was something like a george floyd to happen so then leading to that i mean with minneapolis being there on the ground shortly after after that it was it was crazy just how the kind of the basic tenets of what we know to be a civilized society just wasn't there in terms of uh you know for example i was so used to protests not if not affecting a couple blocks around where the event was happening. But I quickly realized that there was no stores open. The stores that were nearby, they were all being looted. And so I ran out of water because I was out there all day.

And so I had to grab water from the target that was looted because they were putting all the stuff that hadn't been looted into this giant pile so that people could just grab whatever they wanted. So I just took what I needed and then moved on. But it was just – it was weird. There was no public transportation. There was no Uber. There was no Lyft.

Clearly, there was no cops. I mean, it was just – it was such a weird time. And so that really was what was worrying going into 2021, thinking, well, is this kind of like the new normal now in terms of just how the immediate reaction to something that is viewed as unjustified is then just massive violence and lawlessness? What frustrates me with most stuff is I just want to know what the rules are. And if the rules were applied evenly, then I'd be like, play ball. You know what I mean? Let's have those arguments. But instead, it's like they – you ever play Monopoly with someone who just gets angrier and angrier?

Yeah. A better example is have you ever played Pokemon with someone who just gets angrier and angrier yeah a better example is have you ever played pokemon the card game i know many people in our audience probably did when they were kids and you probably had somebody where it's like yo my my uh you know gyarados does 50 damage to your dude and i win and start getting angry because they're losing so they just flip the table yo i once watched i once saw a kid pick his Razor scooter and smack the other kid during a competition or contest or whatever. In the tournament. So we were at a game shop and there was a Pokemon tournament or whatever.

This was back when I was like 14 and some kid picked up his scooter and just whacked the other kid with it. That's what this feels like to me. We are having a political contest. And have you ever seen an argument where someone's very calm and they're like, I think X, Y, and Z, and the other person's getting angrier and angrier? That's what it is. And there's no moderator. Normally, the moderator should step in and be like, yo, yo, yo, yo, tone it down,

tone it down. You're yelling. You know, let's keep it civil. In this political debate that has reached the streets, one side is getting angrier and angrier and they're smashing windows and starting fires and beating people because they're losing the argument. The moderator is the National Guard. That's why I was asked you at the beginning of the show, I'll ask you again, do you think that they should have sent in the National Guard day two of these Minnesota riots? Absolutely. And part of the problem

because when you look at Los Angeles 92, right after Rodney King and the trial that resulted, it did take a long time for the National Guard and even active duty forces. And the Marine Corps was also deployed during that time. It took a while for them to get there. And that's part of the reason why the riots were so destructive as they were. And it just seems like we're in this constant cycle where riot response is updated. And then because it's sometimes decades until the next one those those

those policies and the people in charge they leave and they change and so things are outdated and and probably another good example of that was kenosha because part of the part everyone was asking why did it take so long for the national guard to to get there and the sheriff i remember he said during a press conference they they didn't uh they didn't follow the proper procedure to officially request the National Guard. He said that we got our wires crossed. How many – And the same thing happened in Minneapolis. They didn't – the mayor, Jacob Frey, whatever, he – they thought they put in the official request to do it, the proper way to do it, and they didn't just because no one does this.

How many people got arrested for rioting in Kenosha? Oh, I don't know that number. Well, not enough, clearly. What were there? I mean, people got arrested? A few did, I mean, after the fact, but in terms of, I mean, during the riots, I didn't see. Besides Kyle?

Well, that's the point. No. The one arrest I do know about was Kyle Rittenhouse. The guy who was trying to protect the neighborhood, who ran away, who rendered aid to even the protesters and rioters themselves, who fled for his life, defended himself, and then tried turning himself in, turned himself in, and went through the ringer on all this.

And I'm like, what about the dude who bashed the old man in the head with the rock? Remember that? Yeah. I interviewed that man for the book. Was he arrested? No, no, no. The old man. I interviewed the old man.

Was the guy who bashed him? We don't know. We don't know. I think it's fascinating. You see, Ian, you said the National Guard's the moderator. No, they're not the moderator. The National Guard is the bad parent where one child is sitting there playing with his video game and the other kid comes over and punches him and takes it.

And the parents run over and go, whoa, whoa, stop fighting, stop fighting. Or the bad teacher who sees a kid get tripped in the hall and then says, zero tolerance, you're both getting detention. It's like, dude, one side is committing violent acts and destruction and the other side is like, please stop this. And the National Guard comes in or the police come in and say, everybody calm down, everybody. It's like the people who came down there with Kyle Rittenhouse were like, we're going to protect these buildings and render aid to the rioters themselves.

Hope everyone's safe. And then what happens? Kyle is the one, after getting attacked, who ends up going to jail for two months and having his life destroyed. Fortunately, at this point, it was not. He's recovered from it because justice was served. But it's just, it is vomitous to hear these stories over and over. That's why I tell you when they announced, we were in Austin when they announced

the Rittenhouse verdict, people were crying. Women were crying. I don't think I saw any dudes crying, but I did see women crying. I made a cartoon about that, about people crying over Rittenhouse. Oh, that's right. I think you guys will appreciate that one, but with the whole situation. But tears of joy and relief. Oh, that's right. You're the cartoon guy. I think you guys will appreciate that one. But with the whole situation...

But like tears of joy and relief. Oh, okay. Well... No, there were women... Well, it was a surprise, to be honest. ...that were like crying tears of joy and relief that this kid was not going to be sent away for life for protecting his home and where he lived. And the left tried every lie.

Gone across state lines. He didn't really live there. His mom dropped him off. That didn't happen. All these lies, all the lies, all of the lies. It was all nonsense. And this is the guy. And I watched a video where an old man was bashed over the head with a rock.

Why wasn't that dude who bashed the old man run through the ringer? Why wasn't he the one standing trial? There is no moderator. It wasn't even a story. It was to us. That was the issue with the official response in Kenosha was because the governor, Tony Evers,

he only called up 150 National Guardsmen. That was the initial response, and that was not nearly enough to actually secure a town. Granted, Kenosha is not that big compared to Minneapolis, but when the city leaders, the state leaders, they did abdicate their responsibility because again they didn't want to in my opinion they didn't want to seem like they were cracking down on racial justice protesters and then that leads

a power vacuum to where then people like kyle rittenhouse you know with good intentions they're like hey we're not gonna let people just destroy this town anymore and we're gonna we're gonna prevent you and we're gonna stop you just continue moving on doing what you do and then yeah something like the calvert and how situation is created and and yeah it was i mean i was there for the second half and i was there covering the trial and it was it was just it was just it was just so weird seeing how when being at the trial and seeing the facts laid out because you know i didn't know every single aspect of it. I didn't, like I said, only saw the second half of it. But the only good thing about the trial is that it did lay everything out.

Unfortunately, he did suffer a lot to get to that point, but nobody who's going in there with an open mind can then come away and say, okay, yeah, he definitely is a white supremacist terrorist murderer that just wanted to mass shoot everybody. I if that was the case he would have shot me the daily beast is now rated as fake news by news guard because they have refused to correct all of the fake news they wrote about cal rittenhouse that's the that's the principal reason why they've been knocked down i love it because whenever these daily beast writers who just do hit pieces on conservatives or libertarians i I just screen grab the NewsGuard thing and I'm like, let me send that to them.

Like, here you go. You're fake news. You are fake news. And it's not even just them. But, I mean, with the whole – I mean, not to harp on Kenosha too much, but one of the egregious examples of the mainstream media just misportraying what was actually happening. I mean, CNN multiple times stated that Jacob Blake, as a fact, was unarmed. I mean, they didn't say appeared to, didn't say it looked like it. I mean, it was hard to tell with the initial video. Didn't he rape some woman?

Well, so the two kids that were in the backseat of the car, I mean, this is what led to the whole thing, was that the woman that he took the kids from, that was who he sexually assaulted. And that's why she she had a protective order against him and that's why the police were called and so when the police were on their way they were they said oh yeah by the way he he has this is his history and so he's re-victimizing this woman and trying to take her kids and then the end and he's armed with a knife and the taser apparently didn't work and so i mean it the video alone like when I first saw the video, I thought, okay, yeah, this looks bad. But this doesn't just happen.

A cop is not going to just plug away at this guy in the back. But the whole reason why he did is because he was armed with a knife and he was about to go into this car with two kids in the back and take them away. And so then the officer had to think, well, then if they're going to chase after them, it puts the two kids' lives at risk. Who's this guy? Do you guys know who this is? Saints? I don't know football. Quarterback.

No, who is he? I don't know. People in the chat don't know. He's a Saints player. He's a guy. He's more like the Aints. He's holding a football, and he's got Jacob Blake on his helmet. Yeah.

He was convicted of sexually assaulting that woman, wasn't he? Yeah, I think so, yeah. And so she had a protective order against him? A protective order, yes. I don't know if he was convicted, but there was a protective order because... She made that... Yeah, because she had that case against him. And so...

And not even just that guy. I remember, I think the WNBA also did something for him. Drew Brees? Is that what they're saying? Drew Brees. Yeah, Saints quarterback. Imagine being a celebrity and putting Dahmer on your hat or helmet. Kamala Harris visited him in the hospital.

And he said, oh, they're a good family. They're a good family. Sorry, that's what she said to him, too, Tim. What? The laugh. From Wikipedia, it says, Blake had a warrant for his arrest from July based on charges of third-degree felony sexual assault, trespassing, and disorderly conduct for domestic abuse. He wasn't convicted?

He had a warrant for his arrest. Okay. Innocent until proven guilty. But just imagining a scenario where you're like, I could respect innocent until proven guilty. But the cops did not go there thinking,'re gonna we're gonna attack this this unarmed guy they were like this is a guy who's wanted for the arrest on felony sexual assault charges we need to bring him in and yes you do need to bring that person in you can be innocent until proven guilty and the state has a right to stop you and those charges to be levied against you he resisted he

grabbed a knife at the very least a guy holding a knife who was wanted for sexual assault. And they're like, I'm going to put his name on my helmet. Well, and that was to go back to my initial point with the media initially saying, as a fact, not even being speculative, saying he was unarmed. I mean, do you not think that didn't incite people to come from Madison, to come from Chicago? There was guys that came from Minneapolis to take advantage of what was going on. That's why it's so frustrating having been there.

That was the title of my book, right? Because CNN... I've met Omar Jimenez, who was a reporter. That was on SNBC, right? No, no, no. CNN. I think Omar's a good reporter. He was stating on the ground that this was a riot that was happening but it's like CNN has this automatic reflexive

response to just be wrong on something and so the Chiron writer was like fire is mostly peaceful, I mean that doesn't even make sense we used to call this group the tourists where when I would cover protests or unrest these same people were at every protest, no matter what

the cause was. Some of them actually bragged about going to Turkey and to China to advance the protests in those countries. And at that point, I'm just like, you work for the CIA or something? Because the fact that you're in China organizing protesters and Turkey, I just have to wonder. But no, I don't genuinely think or accuse them of being intelligence or anything. I think they're revolutionaries. And I think they just want to destroy. So you'd be in New York, and someone would be like, Trayvon Martin, and sure enough, they're this group. My favorite

moment was the Trayvon Martin protests when some of the tourists arrived, knew how to manipulate a protest march, got in front of it, and then tricked the march into going to Wall Street to protest at the bowl. And the actual organizers were like throwing their arms in the air, like, why are we here? Like, we're supposed to go to the police station. But instead, like, there's people jumping on the bowl and stuff. And I'm like, the tourists took over. These are like, they're extremist revolutionaries. This is what you need to understand. These people cannot engage in violence unless they have a shroud of regular people to protect them they would love to go out with 10 people and smash windows they would get caught what they need is a shock moment that will garner 200 people to come

out they then tell everybody show up in solidarity we're all black so they can and then they can destroy things smash things burn things burn things, et cetera, and it's impossible for the state to figure out who did it. Well, and one of the things that is also frustrating about having covered all these riots is that there are some people on the left who like to point to right-wing infiltrators. I mean, in Minneapolis, there's Umbrella Man that they accuse of being an infiltrator. They say that this Boogaloo boy was the one that set the Third Precinct on fire. And so let's just say, for the sake of argument, to borrow from Ben Shapiro.

Okay, for the sake of argument, King. There we go. Let's just say, yeah, it was all right-wing infiltrators that set the Third Precinct on fire. And as someone who was there, I can tell you that none of the actual Black Lives Matter protesters slash rioters had any issue of who set the building on fire. I mean, that was the whole reason why they were there, any issue of who set the building on fire. I mean, that was the whole reason why they were there, because they wanted to actually set it on fire with the officers still inside. They were all celebrating.

They were all happy that this was on fire. So even if this was the work of extreme right-wing trying to make the movement look bad, I can tell you being outside there that everyone was so happy, and they wanted to continue to the other precinct, which was – the closest one was the fifth precinct. And they thankfully weren't successful in destroying that.

But it's just – but they can't accept the rhetoric that they say. I mean all the time, you hear revolution. You hear we've got to do direct action. But as soon as there is direct action on a pretty big scale, they want to back up and say, whoa, whoa, whoa. Actually, it wasn't us. It was people who were trying to make us look bad. It's like, no, you're practicing what you're preaching. And also just the fact that other people were charged with setting the third precinct on fire.

Remember that guy who stole the body armor and the gun or something? Like from the burning building, he stole body armor and helmet or something like that. Yeah. I do remember one guy who went into the – before it got set on fire, came like a ryan helmet and and he held it up in the air and everyone was cheering i think about some people are dumb sent it in the national guard like like i think that trump was afraid because he was the president i think this is was his kenosha was afraid that uh we have another may 4th kent state shooting on our hand where the national guard fired into a crowd of college students killed four people but firstly it wasn't like a peaceful protest like at kent state that was

relatively peaceful from what i know it was a violent riot uh even at that stage they were i mean they were riding day one i believe i i think that probably a bunch of republicans said no no no don't stop the riding the riding is good the riding will get you to win elections that's that's i mean i don't know if that's treason. Treason involves another country. No, it's not treason. That's like sedition. What would you call that?

I'm willing to bet there were, I don't know if they said this to Trump, but I'm willing to bet that there were Republican strategists who were like, the more riots they are, the better our chances come the end of the year. Well, that's obviously not the case. We've seen the proof is the past. We see that that is not the case. If you let riots burn, everything dissolves into no no no it it black lives matter after george floyd had its highest approval rating ever in aggregate at

51 and then it dropped to nine percent uh i'm getting those numbers wrong it was like 26 net approval and dropped to like nine percent net approval there because he didn't he didn't stop the riots he didn't get involved because the riots as soon as they started writing public support collapsed i think it went from like 51 to like 40 percent well and that was well part of the problem is is that it just it just continued happening i mean when when everything first started i initially thought that okay i'll cover minneapolis and i'll go home and i'll that'll be it but then things things kept happening no matter how thin of an excuse that that they that they were going to riot because that was, and this is what I was saying before, the automatic response. And what really hit me was when I was covering a riot in Wauwatosa, Wisconsin, which is probably about like an hour and a half northwest of Kenosha,

where it was a black officer who shot a black teenager who was armed with a gun, had shot the gun previously. He was pointing the gun at the responding officers. But this was all pre-George Floyd and pre-COVID, and so that's why no one knew about this. And so since the Milwaukee District Attorney was making a decision whether or not to criminally charge the officer in a post-George Floyd world, that's why there was riots in the first place.

But the thing is, is just that being in that town, I mean, it really looked like my hometown of wheaton i mean they were there it was a black lives matter caravan from madison that made their way to wauwatosa and as soon as they hit the city limits they started destroying everything in sight including homes take a look at this uh civics polling on black lives matter from april 25th 2017 to may 10th and 22 we can see net net support in just after George Floyd was killed, hit 23%. Then the rioting started.

Jacob Blake got shot. And what happened? Polling dropped even more and went down to eight, 9% continued to fall. Derek Chauvin convicted. Support for Black Lives Matter went down again.

Ahmed Arbery verdict. And they once again dropped down to negative one percent net support. So, you know, it happens every time now we've had these three big moments. Jacob Blake gets shot. Approval drops. Derek Chauvin's convicted. Approval drops. I think they're losing the narrative war. I think we're seeing the media companies falter. I think more people are starting to share shows like this or other people are calling it out. I mean, you look at someone like Jimmy Dore and there really is an economically bipartisan anti-establishment emergence because Jimmy's a lefty guy, but he calls out the machine. He calls out the

establishment, the authoritarianism. I think regular people, it's just fascinating. After Chauvin was convicted support tanked massively over the course of a couple months it went from six percent net support down to three two percent well because if you remember right right before the the verdict for derek chauvin they had then this riots there was the the riot in brooklyn center and that was that's the last right i covered it was april of 2021. And so, again, I mean, yeah, I mean, now that was a bad case where an officer was trying to use a taser

and accidentally shoots a guy. But, again, what happened in that riot was people who had nothing to do with Kim Potter or Daunte Wright had to suffer the negative consequences because people were crazy and going looting again. I mean, it goes back to the two wrongs don't make a right, and that's why I'm just against rioting.

I want to pull up this story from Como News. BLM co-founder admits she held parties at mansion with donor funds. Don't forget, folks. When you give money to Black Lives Matter, you are supporting parties. Parties at a mansion, baby. Come on. It's Studio City. You take. At a mansion, baby. Come on. It's Studio City. You take a look at this, this polling. And right now, as of today, Civic says 44% opposition, 42% support.

You can see that Black Lives Matter has gone underwater in the past month or so, and it's only getting worse. Well, there you go. When more stories like this come out, when you find out nobody knows who's in charge, nobody knows where the money was going, they bought a big mansion, had a bunch of parties with your money,

you know, to everybody who watches this show, to everybody who watches shows like Stephen Crowder's or people who are calling out the lies from Black Lives Matter, their money's safe. They didn't make donations, but these these regular people who don't pay attention who are like i'm gonna make a donation and then did and all they

did was fund a bunch of parties and a bunch of nonsense and a bunch of violence like i hope they're waking up to it now like the minnesota freedom fund i mean again right she wasn't the the candidate then but she i mean a senator kamala harris shared this uh bail fund because that was the that was the current thing to do and you know a lot of celebrities also you know advocated for it and and donated to it and and what happened i mean what's even worse in my opinion with that case is that it's not even necessarily that i mean the money was used to bail out actual writers but in the months since then in the year since then they've bailed out some pretty egregious people who should probably stay locked up and yet they get released because they have all this influx of cash all of a sudden,

thanks to people like Kamala Harris. And then probably one case was that they bailed out this guy. I forgot what the original charge was for, but he then went out and killed somebody in a road rage incident shortly thereafter. And the Minnesota Freedom Fund, they put out a statement saying, they confirmed that yes, our money was used to bail them out. And then they deleted it because I think they were getting too much backlash. So this is the problem with supporting the current thing and the emotions running high

is that you're right. People don't think through what's actually happening because if you actually knew how peaceful protesters work and when they're actually arrested by police, a lot of times they just get written a ticket. They don't need to get bailed out, but because someone wanted to do something and it looks good and we're going to virtue signal, and now people are dead. I think it's these leftist organizations know what they're doing. I remember during Occupy Wall Street, there was the National Lawyers Guild, and they were helping people that I had witnessed be wrongfully arrested, and the cops lied. And so I was like, well, that's cool. They're like lawyers, and they observe to make sure,

you know, no BS from the cops. Okay. Then I saw them one day at a protest where there was a bunch of right-wing people wanted to have a protest, or they wanted to have a rally. So the left showed up to oppose that rally with violence. The National Lawyers Guild was on one side defending Antifa. And I saw them and I was like, how come you guys are only observing one side? And they were like, what? And I'm like, shouldn't you be observing protests in general? Why are you just with them? There was a group of black clad people wearing masks and sunglasses with crowbars and two by fours and bats and they were like we're here to protect these protesters and I'm like the guys over

there with shields are protesting I don't understand why you're not protecting them it's because these organizations don't exist to protect the right to protest they exist to serve the revolution yeah absolutely I mean I see those guys out there all the time and they definitely are and look I'm not for you for police cracking down on people unjustly.

It's just that in all the riots that I personally covered, it was always rioters making the first move and police responding in kind. It's amazing watching the right try to protest and having no experience and no organizational power, and they think they can go up to these cops and say things. I just – it's funny watching these videos and you'll see these conservatives being like yo yo why are you arresting him did he do anything i don't understand like what's going on and it's like wow that's exactly what the leftists say like these these people thought they could show up and that the cops were going to treat them like oh we these guys support us so we're gonna be right no then you see those videos where the people are throwing the blue lives matter flag in the dirt

and stomping on it in front of the cops because they finally realize, like, dude, those cops don't care about you, dude. You go out and protest. That's why the left, they've been organizing for decades, and they have infrastructure and money behind them. So when they get arrested, they all get bailed out, even if they're the most crooked and evil people you've ever heard of. And then Maga Meemaw shows up waving a little flag and now is in solitary.

Yeah, it's not hard. If you think about the allegory, like the French Revolution, I'm reading a little bit about it. Like if they were like, and there were like sympathizers to the revolutionaries in the courts and that some of the French revolutionaries were arrested and then released, you'd be reading about it. That is not even weird to me at all. I can totally see that happening.

It's the French Revolution. They infiltrated the courts. They're working together. So why is it so hard to believe that that's happening right now? It I can totally see that happening. It's the French Revolution. They infiltrated the courts. They're working together. So why is it so hard to believe that that's happening right now? It's not. It is happening. It seems to be happening right now. I completely agree with you.

I think people are in denial about the fact that the left has basically captured all of our most authoritative institutions. Maybe not all, but some very, very, some at the crux. Enough of them to get away with rioting, basically. Enough of them to literally burn down buildings and not face legal penalties. They set fire to that church across from the White House, a historical church. And then the media and everyone just aligned against Trump over it. This is how much institutional power the left has and has had.

They were able to intimidate a sitting president of the United States into going into the bunker of the white house and it was not criticized by the media they were considered to be peaceful protesters they praised it they laughed exactly and they laughed at trump right they laughed at this and then they you know they accused the right of being insurrectionist and in that and in that riot there were 60 secret service officers who were badly injured. Around 60 Park Police officers were also injured. And yet that's not viewed as an insurrection.

And that's why with the whole January 6th discussion, I mean, for me, I view it as a riot. I mean, I was against that because riots are not good. But it's just – I don't care what anybody has to say about january 6th if they then look at what happened at the white house and they're you know and because i mean that was also an attack against one of the branches of government i mean it's it's just so it's just i know we get into the whole double standard hypocrisy but it's important to point that out because when we're talking about the again the history of our country that you have to country, that we have to remember where people stood when things were on other sides of the debate. Yeah, well, I remember all throughout the summer of 2020 when the left was rioting,

I was seeing hot takes from lefties who were saying things along the lines of, oh, all the 2A conservatives who said they wanted to stand up to a tyrannical government are awfully silent right now, arguing basically, if anyone remembers, that conservatives should be laying down their lives for a left-wing insurrection. Then all of a sudden, the left decides to start pretending that they're against insurrection, labeling January 6th an insurrection, which is a bizarre thing considering basically no one had weapons. We also know there was a, we're pretty sure based on the evidence there was a lot of involvement from feds there. And the narrative was not what the media reported it as or has been claiming it was. But regardless, now they are once again in favor of insurrections, saying things like Lori Lightfoot, for example, stating this is a call to arms.

We have left-wing political leaders saying, we gotta fight. We need revolution, etc. She called for arms and fighting? She said, this is a call to arms. We need to fight. Fight to victory. That's calling for weaponry. And Alex Jones got banned

for basically the same thing. And Chicago has plenty of them. The government was set up so that we don't have to go to another revolution if we do it right. Although Thomas Jefferson made it very plain that we may have to and that you don't never do it,

but we shouldn't have to. We had a civil war, bro. Also, well, I want to mention this. I think what they were talking about was more a revolt than a revolution. So a revolution is when you try to, like to completely overturn the social order to build something new, whereas a revolt is when you're trying to fight back against something being arguably imposed upon you. So you think this is more of a revolt?

I think this is more of a revolution. I don't see what they want. I would argue that it's a leftist revolution, right? They want to create a new social order. Like, they don't even think that we should recognize the differences between boys and girls. That's how bizarre and strange the new order that they seek to establish would be. A cultural revolution. Yeah, a complete cultural and political revolution.

They just want to overturn everything. Everything. I mean, again, the far-left protesters in Los Angeleseles they were calling for the supreme court to be abolished which is also funny because okay if that happens you do realize then abortion goes to the senate that's the whole reason why we're in this decision in the first place they remember when they were calling to abolish the senate yeah i mean they're abolishing they're abolishing left and right i mean i'm open to change and revolution i don't know a lot of a lot of anarchists and libertarians probably like yeah abolish the senateish the Senate. For a while, I thought we should get rid of the House of Representatives

because they're getting bribed. I'm like, we need to... But I don't just want to get rid of it. You got to create something better if you're going to change it. You got to replace it. Like the founding fathers

didn't just fight and kill a bunch of people and then be like, what do we do now? Like they had a plan. They had a bunch of paperwork. They've been debating for years and years together.

And when it didn't work with the Articles of Confederation, they replaced it with something else than what we have today. I mean, it's really – I mean, especially with the Antifa people and those guys, yes, they are a threat, especially if they're motivated in specific areas like the Pacific Northwest. But they also just hype themselves up too much. They spray paint ACAB on the side of a wall, and they jerk themselves off on social media

by saying, look how awesome this is. This is a revolution. You guys just spray painted a wall. Big whoop. And then when it gets below 40 degrees, they stay home. It strikes me more and more that it's just a revolt, a headless revolt. This is from October. It's not even that long ago. Abolish the Senate. These people are just like, we've lost control

of a body of power. Abolish it! Again, it's the temper tantrum that left us have. If we don't get what we want, we want it to go away, or we'll influence it through violence. I wish they thought of it more as a boat we're all on, that they don't like how fast it's going,

so they want to burn the boat as we're all on it, and like, I'll sink it. Like, no, no, no, we got to fix the boat. I wish that Republicans felt that way too. Yeah, it'd be nice. So if you are on a boat and there are people who are destroying it with pickaxes, you stop them from doing it. Yeah, yeah. I'm on a boat.

This hot take that we should abolish the Senate, this is so typical. Often what happens is the right will either make like sort of a straw man argument to poke fun at the left to explain the most extreme possible position, and then the left will literally meet them there and end up unironically believing that thing. So I heard people saying after the 2016 election when the left was complaining about the electoral college, well, at that point, why not abolish the Senate as well? Because if you think that everything should be left up to a purely popular vote, then the whole idea of representative government doesn't make sense. That's what they want.

No, I know. That's what they want. And at first, left-wingers were saying, they were denying that that's ridiculous, that's not what we want, and then, of course, not that far down the line, oh, that is what they want. Majoritarian rule is not fun. No. It's literally mob rule i don't mind

institutionalized mob rule a more direct republic but i i do like the stop gaps that we have so that mob can't make a crazy decision tomorrow because a video went viral i think it's funny spock the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few and i'm like that is horrifyingly despotic that's like not a good line. Despotic. Despotic. I thought the same thing. And millions of others. It's this idea that, well, you know, these people need it more than you, so we're going to take your water. It's very Vulcan.

It's very logical. I need water to live. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few justifies a person who has water that he saved up for the winter. It justifies, but these 10 people have no water so they get yours because the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few and it's like well those many didn't do any work all summer and now are suffering because of it and i did the right thing so i suffer because of it or if you're taylor lorenz you drink three water three gallons of water a day what was up with that holler back she said she keeps her room is that real 87 degrees

in the desert that's not real maybe it's la los angeles probably got super hot in there sweating all day maybe she's a lizard person yeah that's kind of what i was saying i think you can drink just bask in like the sun lamp and just like chill out i always watch lizards do that and i'm like that must be like the best feeling yeah if you're really still it doesn't feel it's only when you start moving that it gets really hot but if you're really still cats like the sun too you ever see it's, like so we have a window in my office and Bocas will go in there and lay in the sun and then as the sun moves, he like, you'll look

and then he'll be laying there and sleeping and he'll get up and like inch forward and go back to sleep. I went to pet him with wet hands and he like recoiled and I thought, oh yeah, desert cat wants dry hands. Sunlight. Anyway, what happened? We're talking about the needs of the many. What is that even?

I just want to say this. There's a good argument to be made about that. So when someone says something like, well, the needs of the many outwe about the needs of the many. What is that even? I just want to say this. There's a good argument to be made about that. So when someone says something like, well, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, well, I would argue that the needs of the many include the need for strong social structures that don't allow you to just take things from people because they happen to be in the minority and you outnumber them. If you have a group of 11 people and one of them makes all the water, the other 10 are super lazy and they're beating their kids and they're terrible.

The needs of the many, you look at the big picture. What is the needs of the species? Do we really need those 10 violent, abusive people? So what is the many at that point? You might have to cut off the dead weight. You know what I'd love to see is a parody where Spock is like, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. And then Kirk is like, yes, but what if the few are protecting what they've built?

And then Spock just goes, might makes right. Then Spock just goes, shut up. Shut up. The beautiful thing about Spock was that he was half human, half Vulcan. So it was an opportunity to have the logical rhetoric, and then Captain Kirk would give him the emotional human understanding, basically the reasoning or the emotion. The needs of the many also can include your mom.

Yeah, do that. Yeah, when you say the needs of the many. Also, I want to mention this authoritarian idea, the needs of the many are the way the needs of the few. Who gets to determine what the needs of the many are? Oh, the few? A small handful of centralized people who you've decided get to determine what the needs of the many are? Okay.

You know what's going to be funny? When Taylor Lorenz is like the editor-in-chief at the new york times oh goodness you should have her on the show all of our addresses are gonna be at that point it's just the new york times gonna become a phone book y'all are laughing but it's gonna happen you think is that what she wants to do i don't know but what's gonna happen is these millennials will eventually take over these institutions they work there so 10 years ago they were interns and they were writing their stupid garbage pieces about gamergate or whatever 10 years ago, they were interns, and they were writing their stupid garbage pieces about Gamergate or whatever.

10 years later, they're now the star reporters. In 10 years, they're going to be like, you know, I've been at the Times now for 25 years, and as the executive editor, the stories we're going to run, they're going to be running these institutions. Think about the law clerk. There was that viral meme where the law clerk was like, it is more dangerous that the courts took away women's rights than the leak happened and defied the sanctity of the court. When they get into the judicial system and they are running these courts,

they will have the same disdain for legal precedent, and they're going to be like, I have the power and I can do what I want, so shut your mouth. I mean, because that's true because I remember growing up in 2014, 2016, that whenever there was a freakout on a college campus from a social justice warrior or what have you, there was always that natural response to say, well, wait until they get to the real world. It's going to be a harsh reality and grow up. And that's not been the case. No, they took over.

They took over because the older adults have to leave and they grow old and they retire. And then who takes their place? And we're seeing that now with law schools. But I will say these people are very non-functioning. So when the boomers age out and are no longer at the New York Times, the New York Times will go out of business. Yeah, I've been waiting for it to happen. I'm surprised it's still around. But you think that – Well, think of the CNN Plus going out of business. Well, for sure. I mean, look at the New York Times, the New York Times will go out of business. Yeah, I've been waiting for it to happen. I'm surprised it's still around. But you think that...

Well, thank you for seeing M Plus going out of business. Well, for sure. I mean, look at the ratings. You know what the key demo ratings were for like Anderson Cooper on Friday? It was like 90,000. That's crazy.

We get like 500,000. So they're archaic. They're dying out. The boomers ran the show. They knew how the machine worked. The millennials are inheriting the system but don't know how to make it work. So what's going to happen? Do you think these

people are going to know how to run a business? They're going to vote for government subsidization of news. They're going to be like, the government should bail us out because the news is so important. And then they're going to have allies in government who are going to be like, I agree. And it's going to be up to all of us to be like, no, you're not getting our money to bail out these broken systems. At some point

the media industry in the country got it became no longer the fourth, what's it called? The fourth state. Fourth state, yeah. And it got co-opted by, I don't know if it's the- It's the deep state. Yeah. The deep state.

There's this thing called the, I keep seeing this. It's like the, what's it called? The Council on Foreign Relations and all the web of how they have people that are part of that that are also like the heads of media organizations. And there's like this awesome graphic. I actually tweeted it out a couple months ago. Alex Jones had it on the wall like a big poster when I went to his office. And it just shows how all these people are connected through this council on foreign relations.

Bilderberg Group is another one. And then this, I don't remember, the Trilateral Commission. And the three of those businesses have so much influence on like nbc abc cbs disney and and then they're putting out this like coherent message that doesn't seem like it's about about fact checking anymore i i think if you look at the media and how they're they've they've lost the plot it shows you that millennials can't make the machines work so how is it that these people keep falling for the same fake news stories? How is it that the press is like less favorable

than Congress or whatever? It's because the millennials who are inheriting it don't know what people want to listen to. I'll mention that Politico story I was reading earlier where actually do I have,

I don't know if I have that tweet pulled up, I don't, where they were like, a Democrat spoke to their colleagues about how inflation is the is the big issue for everyone and democrats were shocked saying but i've not heard this at all and it's just like if if if you did not know that people can't afford rent and you were shocked by that you do not live in reality that was uh katie porter yes the

congresswoman she said that oh i didn't know that bacon costs this much now by the way i love it when there's like the joke about asking a rich person how much a gallon of milk costs they're like i don't know 20 bucks because like i have no idea i don't i have someone go to the store for me and then they just crumple the receipt up and throw in the garbage exactly when they say our democracy what they mean is you being ruled by people who have absolutely no understanding of what your actual concerns are no no no these people who don't know that inflation is a problem right now are the ones in charge and if you don't want that to be the case you don't when they say this is a danger to our democracy they are not including you imagine imagine there are two countries in the united states there's the

freedom faction and the authoritarian faction. The authoritarians are talking to themselves. They say they are threatening our democracy. That doesn't include you. That does not include you. They say this is very dangerous to our democracy. Yes, we are a danger to their democracy because we aren't included in it. And we demand our rights.

We live in a constitutional republic. They live in a multicultural democracy. That's what's happening. And we demand our rights. We live in a constitutional republic. They live in a multicultural democracy. That's what's happening. And both are trying to seize power. Well, I should say one is trying to seize power from the other side because it's always been a constitutional republic here in the United States. Yeah. No, it's an interesting question, right?

Because when you say one side is trying to seize power, it's not exactly clear which side that is. We know the left has been pushing forward their revolution, but when you consider the fact that they have faced no legal consequences for the rioting in the street and other such illegal activities, you wonder if they're not the ones who are in control, and it's the right which is attempting to seize power back. Well, and that's why, again, that's why it's so scary of where this country is going in terms of, I mean, mean with again road this whole road versus way issue because yeah there i mean there's protests tonight i don't know how big they were

uh because uh outside of the conservative supreme court justice's homes again and are any are they going to be hunted down are they going to no exactly because because the the media has been excusing it the white house was excusing it and the White House was excusing it. And so if they think, okay, we can continue pushing these boundaries more and more, once it is actually overturned, it's not unreasonable to be concerned about, okay, well, then they're going to take things to the next level. And we're seeing it. I mean, no one's been caught yet, but that's why pregnancy centers have been targeted. And it's just being ratcheted up.

They're justifying it because of what happened in the 80s and 90s or whatever. And to me, to me it feels like we're in this car that's just careening towards this massive tree trunk

and no one wants to hit the brakes. Have you guys ever read I Am Legend? Yes. You've read it? Yeah, the actual short story. I've only watched it. It's a pretty...

Well, no, it's part of a longer book, which is a collection of short stories. So you know the premise. Robert Neville. Yes. Which is? Which is that in the book, they're actually explicitly labeled as vampires. It's not as much of a zombie movie as the film, but basically there's nobody left on earth except for this one man. And he pours vinegar on the steps of his house, and it's surrounded by vampires every night who try to lure him out and get them to join them the idea is to

join them the idea is spoil the ending i'm gonna spoil you how dare you well that's that's the point no it's a very good story the point is when the vampires start emerging he goes around killing them because they're evil vampires who are turning people and consuming blood. He loses. Eventually, he's the last person. He realizes to the vampires, he is the legendary monster. He is the creature that lurks while they sleep, who kills them and jumps out of the light

when they can't see him. And he's the boogeyman to them. Once they took over, he was the hideous monster creature. He was the legend yeah yeah exactly so i bring that up because yeah and he that's his final ending monologue is like well i am legend yeah so my point is eventually there will come a time when either the constitutional republic is consumed by the vampiric multicultural democracy or the other way around if the

constitutional republic loses, there will come a point where you are in your house surrounded by multicultural democracy. It will be unrecognizable. You have no constitutional rights and you will be the last remaining constitutionalist holding on to your flimsy, tattered up piece of paper that you bought at auction for 10 bucks because nobody wanted the constitution anymore. And then you'll be like that's it these ideas have died out unless of course you preserve those ideas by having a family having kids building culture challenging the establishment speaking out and saying no to the vampires

yeah that's what you have to do you think you work with the vampires no no no what about what about trick them into becoming your slaves they They're vampires. You can cure them. Like in the movie, that's what he was trying to do, which was really dumb. The movie sucked. No, I like the movie. The movie just had no, like, the point of the story is the message about what happens when you're the last human. You are the monster to them.

Well, sure, but. But the movie was just like, I got a dog and there's zombies, I guess. Yeah, that's awesome. Ah, whatever. Yeah, it wasn't as good. It was shootings. Very different. There was a dog and then the dog died and that was sad julia we before we we're gonna go to super chats pretty soon but i was wondering about your book because we talked about the riots a bit during the show was there anything in there that you wanted to

talk about that was on your mind yeah buy it oh where can people get it right now uh so they can go to amazon i understand if you don't want to go to Amazon, but it's also on Barnes & Noble, Target, Books A Million, Thrift Books, and that's as far as I know. But in all seriousness, it's just this is supposed to be – it's obviously not the end-all, be-all source of riots because I couldn't be everywhere at once. I wasn't everywhere, unfortunately.

But to my knowledge, and I don't want to sound like I'm hyping myself up or blowing myself up too much, it's one of the first really attempts to jot everything down and accurately retell everything that happened in a written form. It is the greatest piece of American literature ever written. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I guess I should get a copy. Patriots fact-checked that and literature ever written. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I guess I should get a copy. Patriots fact-checked that, and they said yes. Yeah.

100%. Yeah, I saw on PatriotWarrior1776.info it said it was the greatest book ever written. Yeah, it was the greatest book ever written. And the reason why it's just so important is just because, again, that there was just so much media malpractice as it was happening, and especially in the aftermath of January 6th. I mean, the people who are supposed to be telling us our history and telling things as they are, they're saying,

no, January 6th is the only one that matters. And obviously I'm not minimizing it by any stretch of the imagination, but there were also all these other riots. And one of the greatest examples of that is a New York Times piece shortly after January 6th, and it was uh and it was literally about the premise was or republicans are pointing to the blm riots and the line was something to the effect of republicans are using isolated instances of property damage to what about january 6th and we're talking a minimum two billion dollars worth of damage multiple dozens

of people were killed over this time period and and and you're gonna you're you're gonna minimize what they're you're you the the author of the piece was doing the exact same thing that he was accusing republicans of doing and to me that's just that's just egregious and and when we're talking about the gaslighting and and the playbook that the media does is that and they do this with every issue when it comes to making if if it makes liberals look bad or if they can make republicans look bad with like the example of the florida parental rights bill right i mean they were calling it don't say gay and just completely mischaracterizing it and but that became that

became canon in the eyes of in minds of a lot of people because they didn't actually read the darn thing but they they ran that same playbook because they always do it but when it came to the rights they still did that because in their hubris and their arrogance. They thought, well, we're just going to do what we've always done. But it's a lot harder to gaslight people and mislead people when there's whole neighborhoods on fire and there's mass lawlessness. But they still did it, and that's the point. For me, that's just really frustrating. Let's go to Super Chats.

If you have not already, smash that Like button, subscribe, share the show, send in your super chat questions, and become a member at TimCast.com. We're going to have a members-only segment coming up at 11 p.m. I think we're going to be talking about the apocalypse because there's a whole bunch of apocalyptic stuff happening in terms of droughts and the economic collapse and food shortages. But there's some new developments, and we'll talk all about that. And it's not very family-friendly, but I think you'll laugh because we've had some pretty crazy conversations there but let's read these super chats ehef says shameless would make a beautiful woman wrong that is absolutely disgusting you guys you're insulting the natural order hideous all right deprived dolphin says abortion industry is a money laundering scheme that just allows tax dollars to make their way to democrat campaigns without anyone questioning why Roe v. Wade will result in Democrat collapse.

Really interesting. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says as a liberal woman with two cats, harumph I say. First of all, I would have to have a bunch of cats because I would just be a hideous woman. No one would just be cats me and my cats ns says tim your own website says that arrest on protesters is iffy if ron coleman says maybe then who's right you or your news site it's called an opinion it's called an opinion from ron coleman an opinion from me and it's not about being right it's about me saying i think they should be arrested not that they will be can be be, or that it would be upheld. But yeah, I mean, look, I have my own opinions.

All of the segments that go up on TimCast.com from this show and my show say opinion on them. It means it's what I think should be or could be but not necessarily. The thing about opinions, people need to understand that something can sound like a fact but it's an opinion right if you if someone were to say something like google is spying on conservatives it sounds like a fact statement like they're doing a thing but it's actually legally an opinion because you're saying like i believe based on what i've seen the challenge with fact statements is that it can be an opinion if it's something that's fairly nebulous or vague or hard to definitively prove like there's a god is that an opinion uh i think

that would be considered an opinion statement so but i don't think that's relevant to any legal context to be honest like there's no circumstance in which the court's going to actually be like yes or no i think if you're talking legally it's one thing but it's complicated because a lot of times the lines get blurred so an opinion like if you're saying legally, it's one thing, but it's complicated because a lot of times the lines get blurred. So an opinion, like if you're saying something like ice cream tastes the best, that's an opinion. But if you're talking about whether or not God exists, that is something which is objectively true or false. Well, the ice cream is the best is a qualifying opinion. There's a qualifier in there.

But what you're saying is you can have non opinions without qualifiers so you so there have been instances where someone has said something like you know tv personality does x and you're like wow they're saying they did a thing and then they argue no no it's my opinion that they do this thing and the courts are like right it's an opinion so can you prove google actually spies on conservatives definitively with evidence could. But what if you stated they were? I'm not saying they are. Google spies on everybody, I think. Or how about this? Google spies on people. Google right now is spying on us. It's a fact statement, right? It's an opinion statement, actually. It's based on evidence and data that leads me to a conclusion that is, you can't see it, right? I can say there's a window in front of me and that's a fact statement because there is. I can say, you know, I closed the window

earlier and you can say, did he or did he not? Google spying on people, I would say is objectively true, but someone will be like, yeah, based on your interpretation of the facts. I'm like, well, they take our data. Is that spying? I don't think that's spying. Spying would mean this. No, spying would be that. Did the person run? Was he running to the store? You said so-and-so ran. Yeah, he was moving very quickly. I think that was a brisk walk. You see how it works? Legally, it's hard to have fact statements, but it sounds like you're making a fact statement, and technically you are, but if people don't agree on what words mean, then you get all sorts of crazy. All right. Anywayress let's go back to the super jets zach kemp says why can't we talk about allowing abortions but requiring the doctors to do everything they can to save the life of the baby

and charge the parents for medical procedures i mean that's what i'm saying like if they're saying this woman will die unless this nine you know this baby at nine months gestation is removed. I'm like, okay, remove it, and then it lives, I guess, right? Yeah. Why would they have to kill it? Because that's the goal, right? The whole goal is we need to kill this child because we view them as a problem. Cost, if it's like, we're going to remove the baby, there's a chance it'll live, it's going to cost you $400,000, or you can abort it and it'll cost you $600.

Isaac Luck says, thanks, Tim. I've been wanting to order from Biotrust, but I've been waiting for this offer. I've recently started keto and I've lost 16 pounds so far. Amazing, glad to hear it. Around November, I cut out sugars. We've got the Biotrust keto stuff and I've dropped about 25 pounds.

Actually a little bit more than that right now. It's like 27 or 28, no joke. It's getting crazy. I just cut out the sugars. You know what I found out? Michaela Peterson made a really, really great point because she was doing the all meat thing, right? Yeah. She basically just eats lamb.

The lioness diet, I think she calls it. She was saying that it's not about just eating meat. It's about elimination. It's about getting everything out of your diet and then slowly putting things back in until you find out what was screwing with you. I found out bread messes me up really bad. Yeah. It's not as much about what you eat, although it's about what you don't put in your body. Fasting is a tool.

It's a proactive – it's an activity that you do. So I go for like a month with no bread, no gluten, no bread. And I'm eating mostly like nut breads and keto stuff. And I feel fantastic. We go out to eat and I get breaded food. And all of a sudden the next day, my whoop recovery is cut in half. I feel groggy and cloudy. And I'm like, man, I think that's what it was. And so some have suggested it's fried food. And I'm like, I have fried wings all the time. I get like wings and they're fried and rolled around in sauce and all that. And I have no problem. And there's other fried stuff I've had. That's not gluten. And I've like been fine with it. So I'm wondering if it is

gluten. I don't know. Oh, for sure. I wouldn't be surprised. I was eating some breaded food the other night and I was like, I'm starting to get full. And I just sat there and was kind of meditating. And I just heard like celiac. It just like came into my mind. Yeah. That's what happens, man. People dose on, on wheat flour and then they get celiac. There's like trendy diet stuff and I've never cared. So when I cut out the sugars and then I was like, I'll have a little bit because I'm not going crazy with it. I would have some bread and then feel sick. But I didn't really think anything.

But I think I've collected enough data over the past, you know, since November. So about six months or so of looking at what I've been eating and not eating and tracking the whoop data since I got it. And I'm like, dude, the days where I have wheat grains, my recovery drops. It might be. Also alcohol. And it's a combination. I mean that's, you know, wheat-based and alcohol. My recovery dropped.

So the whoop tells you like your recovery. Since I cut out bread, it's been 80 to to 90 every day even when i work out every day had one beer the next day it was like 19 it was in the red and it was like what did you do was it wheat beer it was regular beer i think it was a bloom oh it was a yingling i mean is it made from wheat i don't know if you knew off the top of your head um whoop there it is sometimes it's the stuff they spray the wheat with like uh monsanto uses a stuff called glyphosate which is uh a chemical that they use. It's like an antifungal, anti-insecticide or insecticide.

But what they also do is they use it as a desiccant, meaning they dry out the wheat with – by spraying it with this Roundup, this glyphosate, and then they harvest it. So if you're not getting organic wheat, you're very likely getting glyphosate-induced right at harvest. It's just – that is – and that stuff's been linked to cancer. All right. Let's read some more. Let's just that is – and that stuff has been linked to cancer. All right. Let's read some more. Let's see.

I see someone mentioning Tim supposedly doesn't drink. I've often said I have like a few drinks per year, a few. Yeah. But – And they're all because I have peer pressure. But now I'm absolutely done. Because my thing was like I'm not – like I can't drink. It's impossible.

I'm just like I prefer not to because I like to exercise. After I – when I exercise or write a song, I want to improve. I want protein synthesis. Alcohol inhibits that. But if I'm like I'm not working out or whatever and we're all out having a good time, I'll have a beer. And then once I saw what happened on my recovery after having beer and having wine, I was just like I am never touching that stuff again. Like when you can see the actual results the next day and you're like, whoa, no like. All right, let's read some more.

I think the kale industry, the kale smoothie industry is in bed with these people. They're convincing you not to drink things that actually taste good. Big kale? Whatever it is that these health food people are marketing. We've got to get back to Super Chats. We've got to read more. Put your olive oil on the kale, lemon juice, a little salt, and squeeze it, massage it. It becomes amazing.

Let's read Super Chats. Lee Mall says, Ian, stop calling a baby a thing. I'll call your body a thing, but you're a human. It. No one gets pronouns. No one. You can't stop fighting over pronouns. Everyone's it.

All right. Griffin says, crazy how the U.S. just gave Ukraine $40 billion in military aid. Or in other words, 60% of Russia's annual military budget. Wow. Yeah, we didn't talk about that. $40 billion, was it? $40 billion. And Biden was like, we got to give them $33 billion.

And then Congress was like, let's give them $40 billion. And then it's like this regular American woman just goes, my baby needs formula. And they're like, shh. Bombs. Balian says, Destiny had Rakeda on with a few lawyers from the left and are having a good debate on this topic from a law perspective. You should have him on again. Nick's dope. Yeah, I'm down.

Absolutely. Anytime. That'd be cool. All right. Jacob Carter says, Hey, Seamus, God bless you. I have to ask, how do you feel about Dr. David Wood? I think I've heard the name. I'm not really

familiar with dr david wood rich i've heard the name that's about google him richard knight says new drinking game when ian says i don't even know what that means we all take a shot everyone will be hammered by the end of the show you know people always say stuff like that and it's like i don't think it's a real i don't think it would a real, I don't think it would really work. You know? A drinking game based on. Well, people are always like, whenever someone says this or someone says that. And I'm like, maybe they said it like three times in a short period. But they don't say it every show all the time. All right.

Dragon Lady says, Tim, I ordered emergency food while watching your first segment today. You give good advice on that. I've had it before. It was a lifesaver when I lost my job a few years ago and couldn't afford food. You never know what might happen, folks. I mean, yeah, for sure. They were saying fragility of society. Yeah, people don't realize that.

Like New York, it is scary what would happen if the supply chain just stopped. People on that island, there'd be no food. A lot of boats. A lot of boats bringing food in. No, if there's no supply chain if the supply chain stops that's a different story if the food i'm talking about the roads get shut down if the i mean but i don't really don't think you're gonna boats can't bring enough food you need trucks to bring it through the city too all right not my regret says my wallet

my choice that's right i guess i think ruben ruben ruben says seamus please make an animation of biden chanting ultra maga in a cult-like setting as a shadowy society of uh a shadowy specter of trump grows over a pentagram then in the end biden will be relieved because finally has an actual enemy oh my goodness a specter of trump or he you know what you should do you know that you know that thing where they had r ke Kelly rapping on the hologram? Was it R. Kelly? They had like, it's paint of glass on a stage and they can project a 3D person on the glass.

I think it was Tupac. Tupac. Yeah, R. Kelly's alive. R. Kelly and G. There's a lot of baggage there. They're like, we're going to do a hologram. It's not actually R. Kelly. Biden puts Trump on a hologram to create something to rally against.

Come on, man. Look, he's over here. Robotron. Omega says, horseshoe theory is a post hoc fallacy. Authoritarianism is the aim. Left and right are two different paths, the same conclusion. Similar can be said about libertarianism. In what way? That's a path towards, oh, left or right libertarianism.

I don't know. It's hard. Left libertarianism doesn't scale. Right libertarianism has currency to help a decentralized network expand. Left libertarianism of, like, cooperation and just, like, agreements without currency, communal systems, doesn't scale. You need, I doesn't scale it's you you need i just don't i don't see i think it would no matter what direction you go if you don't stop and you're just gonna go all the way you become extreme and that's the danger extremists are dangerous you gotta have an open mind all right let's see what we got here sleeve zen says

my 27 year old daughter who is perfect was born at 30 weeks the baby next to her was born at 19 and thriving 27 years ago why don't they concentrate on better birth control i don't know shameless to you wait could you repeat that you're saying that her daughter was born at 30 weeks and is fine oh 27 year old daughter yeah it was 27 years ago that people the babies could be born seven and a half months was it in an incubator or he or she in an incubator i guess at that point they them sims are yeah somehow yeah i seven and a half months that's not uh certainly not unheard of i've known people that were born premature they would call it and then they lived the first month or so in an incubator all right that guy says i hope they do codify roe into federal law using verbiage like shall not be infringed and red states just do what they want

in restricting access i'd love to see the left's reaction then the republicans should offer that up shall not be infringed all right do you agree define infringed right yeah all right colin h says have you ever heard of jennifer briney and her podcast congressional dish please reach out to her as a guest i believe her work investigating congress for the last 10 years is the most underappreciated podcast you can get her work is stellar well okay that girl's name again jennifer briney interesting congressional dish ben thomas says for shamus what state is best for a uk citizen to move to Jennifer Briney. Interesting. Congressional dish. Ben Thomas says, for Seamus, what state is best for a U.K. citizen to move to?

I've got Tim's and Jack's opinion. Now I want yours. My two frontrunners are Texas and Florida. If you're from the U.K., then stay out. There's no good state for it. I would say, if you're asking me, I can't speak specifically to the British experience and what might translate to life in America. But if I were going to start over in any state, I think I would pick Florida. I wouldn't do Florida.

Why not? Why not, Tim? It's a purple state. That's why I would make it red. I'd go there, boom, every vote counts. It is, I think, getting redder, for sure. A lot of people are moving there. I do think it's a good opportunity for someone who wants to push back on the establishment to go. Me, personally, I think West Virginia is the place to be.

Mountain Mama? There's an opportunity for bringing good jobs to a more sparsely populated state with a lot of good people here. And I think – I looked at Florida. I'm like, it's massively developed. They call Miami the capital I looked at Florida, I'm like, it's massively developed. They call Miami the capital of Latin America. And I'm like, it's great. They're doing great things for sure. Yeah, what's wrong with Latin America?

No, I think it's fantastic what Florida's doing. I want to bring new jobs and new opportunity to West Virginia and start building culture and bringing economic power to people who share values with me, like more liberty, personal responsibility, et cetera? No, I hear you.

I love West Virginia. I also love Georgia, where I spent several years of my life. But I'm sort of more thinking along the lines of, if I were to start over and go somewhere else, where would it be? I got to say Florida. This one's for you, Seamus. Laura Tax says, Seamus, 10 years ago when I was pro-abortion, I became pregnant and got an abortion at 22 weeks.

It was the biggest mistake of my life. Is it possible for such a sin to be forgiven? If so, will I get to meet him in heaven? That's a really good question. So there is no sin which is greater than Christ's sacrifice on the cross. you are truly repentant of your sin and also if you forgive the sins of others that have been committed against you, you can absolutely repent of that sin and confess. I

would encourage meeting with and discussing with a Catholic priest. If I understand there have been some in the past stipulations about whether you could be forgiven directly by a priest or whether there would need to be forgiveness by a bishop if I'm not mistaken but yes because I think it incurred forgiven directly by a priest or whether there would need to be forgiveness by a bishop, if I'm not mistaken. Really? Yes, because I think it incurred excommunication.

Oh, I see. I want to double check here. I know that for the Year of Mercy, Pope Francis basically extended it so that priests could... Let me take one second to Google this. That kind of feels weird to me. Well, I think it's any crime against human life. I think it's any crime that ends up killing a person but i just i want to actually google this so i can be sure about these details and give her no no yeah i just more concrete i'm just saying like the idea that there needs to be a hierarchical nature of the church to determine

whether you can be forgiven for something you're appended for seems a little odd to me well i don't think it's the um i don't think it's a question of determining whether you can be forgiven. I think it's just a question of who has the authority to forgive in that circumstance, because if you've incurred an excommunication, I think there's a different process for the forgiveness. But like I said, I really want to double-check on this. This is the first I heard of the Year of Mercy, the Extraordinary Jubilee of Mercy. This is from 2015 to 2016. What was it exactly?

They just made it easier to forgive? Yeah, so I really want to try to pull up the details, so I'm not giving you an accurate information about this question. I just... There was an incident where there was a centennial at a church where if you walked through the arches, all sins had been forgiven. And it was a serious risk to the creation of the universe because if Loki and Bartleby crossed through,

they would be forgiven of their sins and allowed back into heaven, which would then prove God fallible and result in the undoing of the universe because if locally Loki and Bartleby crossed through they would be forgiven of their sins and allowed back into heaven which would then prove God fallible and result in the undoing of the universe that makes more sense I have no idea what you just know I'm talking about dogma oh I didn't see it the Kevin Smith shout out to Kevin Smith that was a lot of rats last

night spoiler alert on the 30 year old movie yet mall rats is awesome yeah in dogma that's basically what happens the church is like we're gonna forgive all sins loki and bartleby were you know banished from heaven and if they get forgiven they can go to heaven and that would prove god fallible which would undo the universe i think it's a funny movie and then they were just like there's a point where i think in the beginning it's ben affleck and matt damon and he's like why would why would some priests claiming this be true actually allow us in?

And then he's like, what you hold true on earth, we hold true in heaven or something like that. It's a funny movie. But I think it's like an atheist's perspective on religion. So they make a bunch of points that are just like not relevant, I think, to it. But it's a funny movie nonetheless. Jane Silent Bob. All right, let's see what we got more spagets steven brooks says my cousin can't medically have kids but she has always dreamed of being a mother she adopted amelia just two months ago in texas amelia was

slated to be aborted but the band stopped it my cousin has a daughter today only because of the texas law that's so wonderful Yeah. It is just really shocking to me when they're like, that impoverished child shouldn't live. That's so true. And what they do is, there's a meme I saw where it's pro-lifer saying,

we believe in life. You can't abort that baby. And then it's like nine months later and she's holding the baby and they're like, we're not going to provide you with anything. You're on your own. You loser or whatever.

And I'm like, you know, it's a silly argument because the same argument applies that you're basically saying like that baby should be dead you know it's like by all means show the conservatives screaming you'll get no handouts you you lazy person and then at the same time show the the liberals screaming and that baby should be dead yeah well i've said this before like when witnessing the child poverty the pro-lifer thinks the problem is the poverty. The pro-choicer thinks the problem is the child. Yeah.

It's really just a crazy argument when they're like, if you're poor, the baby should die. And I'm like, oh, man, I don't know about that. That's pretty extreme. Well, it's not like they're saying the baby was born, now kill it. They're saying the baby should never have been allowed to be alive because you're poor. Not even given a chance. They're like, conservatives will punish you for having the baby and won't support your baby's life. Abort it.

I'm like, I don't know. That sounds kind of weird, dude. No, some of my greatest role models grew up really, really poor. Some of them in the deep Jim Crow South. And I just wanted to say, I think that, oh, I saw a super chat earlier that was like, you know, if a mother, if a father can get rid of his parental responsibility and abortion is outlawed, can a mother do the same thing? Yes, it's called adoption.

You can give your child up for adoption. You can place your child on the step of a fire department and you don't have to take responsibility for it. These are options that no one ever talks about. Can man do that a man probably not no feminists would not want him to be able to do that that's the thing like the woman can literally give the baby away without telling the guy right but the guy cannot absolve himself of responsibility unless the woman says so so think about this way what would happen if a woman had a baby and then put the baby on the steps of a fire department without telling the guy he could he could file a suit for custody but the woman still got to choose to give it away right the guy doesn't

have any choice to remove involvement it's a big big leap of trust with women i mean that's you really gotta kind of realize how important women are you gotta the man has to trust that the woman has the best intentions of the baby and the husband and the man your way i wanted to report to what that person said that it was the Texas abortion ban is the reason why was it your sister has now a kid? Cousin has a kid. Even if the ban hadn't gone through, if your cousin really wanted to

adopt a baby, she would have. Nothing would have stopped her. Isn't there like a backlog of parents who want to adopt but can't? Maybe it would have been more challenging, but I'm sure she would have found a way haven't these people watched 30 rock where liz lemon is desperately trying to adopt and it's very difficult and they they like are trying to prevent her from doing it this is actually true to life because the adoption

process needs to be overhauled it's incredibly expensive it takes incredibly long time and so many people want to adopt babies many people who can't have kids don't want to do IVF. IVF is super expensive, but so is adoption. What are you supposed to do? Remember on 30 Rock when Tina Fey's character confesses that she tells her friends she voted for Obama, but she actually voted for McCain? I thought that was funny because I'm like, is that joke supposed to be relatable or funny to these people? Because back then it was. It was a joke, and it was like, oh, that's funny. Nowadays, they'd be like, what?

How dare you make a character all right the hylian juggalo says neil shusterman's book series from 2007 called unwind predicted a second civil war and where we are going in regards to abortion given we're talking about aborting born babies get set 14 body harvesting please read the synopsis wild remember on south park when uh eric's mom tries to get the doctor to give her an abortion and he's like how far along are you and she's like the 493rd trimester or something like that like some ridiculous number he's like wait what she tried yeah he's like so your kid's 10 years old yep the jaded kriegsman says as a minnesota and i can tell you that we might

actually see waltz lose crazy crime level levels, CRT in schools, and down economy might finally turn the suburbs against the DFL teachers union mafia in Minnesota. Good. Well, and that's, again, we're still the the smash and grabs like this spontaneous looting that happens with like five people and then they all run out because there's no consequence for that all right dylan at laden says i work retail and a customer came in and lectured me on how the z on samsung's marketing boards are offensive the customer equated it to a swastika with the letter z the hyper politicization of society is rampant yeah well you know that's uh russia so nona to give says after daryl davis

tried to get tim keller he's been a minister in new york city for 30 plus years so should have a good should have good cultural insights as a a topic of discussion, how to forgive when a deserved apology is not forthcoming. Ardwick says for Ian, does the media gaslight and get things wrong most of the time? Two, why do you believe the media about Kent State? ROTC building burned, police attacked day before. Day of, students threw rocks and fireworks at National Guard. Oh, yeah, yeah.

The kids were throwing stuff at the adults, I guess, at that point were throwing stuff at the... I mean, the adults, I guess, at that point, were throwing stuff at the cops before... at the law before they fired. I don't know if the media is gaslighting. I mean, I imagine that they are from the evidence I've seen. Throwing rocks at National Guard doesn't warrant a lethal response

that killed bystanders. That's why it was such a tragedy. John Galt says, Tim's right. We are already in a civil war. It is being fought via lawfare, culture, and institutional change. Occasionally, it turns to hot war

and open violence. The only person on offense against the postmodern leftists is Ron DeSantis. Yep. He's like the first Republican I've ever heard of who's like, I am going to do things and not just react to things. But I don't want to soften the word war. I think Seamus brought this up a couple weeks ago, not to soften these terms, because if we were really in a civil war. There would be a lot more dead bodies. Yeah, there's no civil war right now. It's's like conflict civil conflict you're seeing well it's a civil

strife yeah that's what steven marsh said when you get i think what do you say more than 70 deaths in a political context per year you're in civil strife the challenge though is the expansion of population density and population growth so when that number was set were they looking at populations that were 20% the size of the United States as the population grows? We need to look at per capita. How many political killings per capita

to become civil strife? And also frequency because if it happens all in one night and then there's like nine months of peace, then that's not really strife. There was like a, you know, what happens It was fiery, but most of peace. Just keep an eye out for a caning in Congress. Okay. Because when that happens, we're going to be like, okay, hold on, everybody.

That's the canary in the coal mine right there. There's going to be a duel. By the way, I found some information that I want to give to that super chatter from earlier. So I wanted to make sure to get this from a couple of sources. From what I'm reading, at the end of 2016 or at the end of the year of mercy, Pope Francis actually extended this ability. So as far as I understand, you can go to confession and confess something like that to a priest. So I would absolutely encourage her to do so. Like I said, there's no sin that you have committed that is so horrible that God will not forgive you,

and he's given you the sacraments to be able to receive that absolution. So God bless you, and I will keep you in my prayers. All right, we'll get a couple more in here. HB Brian says, James O'Keefe just dropped FBI whistleblower. Ooh, that sounds spicy. We'll check that one out. All right, Jordan Bushaw says, I was born in Ukraine and adopted by my mom, who was born in the U.S. I thank God for her and that Ukraine seems to value life more than the U.S. Love you, mom. Adoption is always an option. My friends, if you have not already, smash that like button.

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to shout anything out? Yeah, no, I mean, thanks for having me again, and yeah, I really hope that, you know, for people who read it, I mean, it took a lot of work into it. I mean, it was certainly a labor of love, and it's kind of crazy that I'm a published author now. I never thought I would do that, so I just hope

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That's what I figured. Well, this is very – I like that the thing is sort of torn off. The clip is torn off because I'm – Well, it represents the realism of the hard work that goes into this. Because I am causing some threat to the system. I'm breaking things down. People don't realize this, but Seamus

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