Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #533 - Biden Ministry Of Truth IS DONE, Director QUITS w/Libby Emmons & Elad Eliahu

Episode Date: May 19, 2022

Tim, Seamus of FreedomToons, and Lydia host journalists Libby Emmons & Elad Eliahu to discuss the collapse of Biden's 'Disinformation board', the Washington Posts' take that the right wing is responsi...ble for the downfall of the Disinformation Board, the surprising revelation that half of Joe Biden's followers might be fake, the female skateboarder calling out trans skating competitors, and how the US soccer league is trying foolishly to achieve equity between the genders. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Joe Biden's disinformation board is done. It has been suspended. And Nina Jankiewicz, the director of this program, has resigned in shame. The amazing thing is the news breaks through Taylor Lorenz, who writes an opinion piece about it, blaming, who was it, Jack Posobiec and the post-millennial Libby? Your fault? Yeah, it's entirely our fault. Your fault.
Starting point is 00:00:22 We take the credit, y'all. All right. We got a bunch of other stories though uh half of uh joe biden's followers are fake according to an audit elon musk is confirming yes in fact he will be voting republican twitter says they're going to force him to buy twitter and they say they axio says they turn they turn the table on him and i'm like they didn't want to sell to him in the first place and now they're demanding it i think elon has won this one we've got a couple other interesting stories there was a news that broke of a female skateboarder who lost she won second place but she was knocked down
Starting point is 00:00:57 because of a male athlete a trans woman who competed and she made a post about an instagram that's going viral. So we'll discuss that, too. Skateboarding, of course, is near and dear to my heart. I know a lot about this and a lot about the physics involved, which matters when it comes to the differences between males and females. But then we also have the U.S. soccer. The men and women are going to share the World Cup prizes.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Yeah, that doesn't seem reasonable at all. That seems weird. Yes. But we'll talk about it. And obviously, Libby's here. Here I am. Who are you? I'm here. I'm Libby Emmons. I'm the editor-in-chief with the Post Millennial. Glad to be here. Right on.
Starting point is 00:01:32 We got Sham Sham. Shamus. I'm Shamus Coughlin. I create cartoons at Freedom Tunes. If you guys want to check that out, go over there. We're going to be releasing a new cartoon tomorrow. Also, if you want to go to freedomtunes.com, put your email address in the little box. We will email you when we launch on May 30th.
Starting point is 00:01:48 We're also going to have a subscription service where you'll get extra cartoons for $5 a month. We got Elad. He's back. Awesome. What's up everybody? I am Elad. I'm an on-the-ground reporter for Timcast. Thanks for having me. And Honorary Ian today. Honorary Ian. Excited to be here.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Not really Ian, but you know. He's our knockoff Ian for the evening. I'm also here pushing buttons in the corner as I do every evening. Great value, Ian. Also, don't forget to head over to TimCast.com. Become a member. As a member, you'll get access to our exclusive members-only show coming up
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Starting point is 00:02:44 We read your super chats at around 930. We obviously can't read every single one, but we try to read as many as we can. Let's jump into the first big news from Tim guest dot com. Biden admin has suspended the disinformation governance board. The board's executive director, Nina Jankowicz, announced her departure from the Department of Homeland Security. So just right off the bat, it was a terrible idea. I don't think he's doing this because of free speech. I think it's polling poorly among Democrats. Bill Maher came out on his show and said, these are not bright people in government. So when you get Bill Maher on his show to a million liberals saying this is bad,
Starting point is 00:03:21 don't be surprised then when they're like, oh, we got a midterm coming up and we're losing. Well, wait, I mean, how do we know this is true or not if Biden suspended the disinformation board? We do know it. In fact, there was a question about it today in the White House press conference with the new press secretary, Corinne Jean-Pierre. Peter Doocy asked if perhaps the disinformation governance board was suspended due to disinformation. There we go. And without a governance board, how would we know? Jean-Pierre basically confirmed that, yes, there was misinformation surrounding the disinformation governance board that a lot of people had slammed it. It's the perfect crime.
Starting point is 00:03:59 It's the perfect crime, yeah, that a lot of people had slammed it. It was actually pretty amazing to see this come down today. That's misinformation. I don't believe it. No, I mean it seriously, that they were like, oh, you know, people were spreading lies about it. So we had to shut it down. No, no, no, no, no. No, it was it was obviously not lies. It was obvious that people were spreading truth about it. In fact, the head of the Ministry of Truth, the Minister of Truth, Nina Jankowicz, had spread substantial amounts of misinformation all by herself on her own feeds. And it was spectacular because as soon as she was announced, as soon as she came out on Twitter and announced that this is what she'd been working
Starting point is 00:04:33 on for the last seven months, Jack Posobiec went out there and just started pulling all of her old tweets and all of her old things where she was talking about Russia collusion and all of these things, COVID things. And she was talking about Russia collusion and all of these things, COVID things. And she was like just spreading misinformation and disinformation all over the place. You know what? I really hope her and James Lindsay end up in a musical together. Yes. Did you guys see her singing?
Starting point is 00:04:55 Okay. People are like making fun of her. I was like, dude, make fun of her for the misinformation. Don't make fun of her for singing. Well, the political singing was real cringe. When she did the Mary Poppins political thing, I was like, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on. What are we doing here? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Convince me. But the actual, you know, she got ragged on by the caller. I defended her. When she was doing that, what do I got to do to be famous bit? I'm like, yeah, it was good. Ian, I said, I thought her singing was good because it's not political. She was just doing a bit and she was like, I want to be famous. And then Ian was like, no, she's got her shoulders up and tight.
Starting point is 00:05:24 She's not singing from the chest. she doesn't know what she's doing and i'm like which is hilarious because like usually ian goes easier on people even when they say things politically that we very much disagree with but she's singing wrong he's like no this is absolutely not like we cannot he took theater yeah exactly he was like i am offended by this like that's his area i studied theater for pretty much my entire life and i actually thought that it was kind of cute that she was into doing performance art, even though she had this weird government career. I didn't have an issue with that singing. I did have an issue with her COVID misinformation Mary Poppins song.
Starting point is 00:05:57 I thought that was total trash. It's weird how when we were young, the adults who were writing books about this stuff, when we weren't even alive, the books that were coming out were like, the future dystopia. Men have steel jaws from the war and metal limbs and cyborgs rule all. And the government comes and bangs a giant sword in the ground. Do as you're told. And what we really got was this permanent child who's singing Mary Poppins going we're gonna block your news and it's like it's substantially creepier you know
Starting point is 00:06:29 millennials aren't growing up no but they don't want to and in part millennials aren't growing up because adults have told them that adulthood is bad we come up with words like adulting as though there's some problem with responsibility and it's like just grow up be responsible why it's not bad the thing
Starting point is 00:06:45 too is it's like when you were a kid remember when you were a kid and everyone wanted to grow up i don't know if you guys had that and people were like oh i could buy all the toys i want i'll get to eat all the candy that i want and it's like now we tell yeah you do get to do that i mean it turns out you do like i buy ice cream and i put it in my fridge, in my freezer, and then we eat it. When I was like 20, I just one day was like, you know, what's one thing I always thought I would do and never did? I'm going to go to the store and buy a whole thing of cookie dough and just walk around eating it. Nice. So I went to the grocery store. I grabbed a thing of cookie dough.
Starting point is 00:07:17 I bought it, started eating it, and some little kid saw me. And he went, as he walked, as I walked past him, he gets better. And I'm like, I looked at him and I him, and I was like, that's right. I bite it. And then five minutes later, I went, oh. I didn't see the aftermath. This is why my parents said you don't do these things. By the way, I meant James O'Keefe, not James Lindsay.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Oh, I was confused. I'm so sorry. No, no, no, not James. That doesn't make any sense. Unless you're talking about his sword movement. Yeah, no, James Lindsay would never be in a musical. No, maybe. No, they wouldn't allow it.
Starting point is 00:07:48 That's funny because I pictured James O'Keefe when you said James Lindsay because I knew that he had done the thing. That would be funny too because the left thinks James O'Keefe is just like the king of disinformation and manipulation and the right calls Nina Jankowicz the minister of truth. I think what we have right here
Starting point is 00:08:04 What we have is a Broadway show and Juliet with James O'Keefe and Nina Jankowicz. What we have is a Broadway show. What we need is investors. That's all we need. This would sell out. How much do we need? I'll fund it. Right?
Starting point is 00:08:12 What do we need for a Broadway show? Start with half a million, something like that? Let's do it. Sign it. So here's my serious question, though, is when you look at the DHS Disinformation Board and you look at Nina Jankowicz, they literally put a child in charge of the Department of Homeland Security. And the issue is the adults, people who are more mature and more understanding, aren't in these jobs. Well, what they did was they put a fool in charge of the Department of Homeland Security.
Starting point is 00:08:37 They put Mayorkas in charge. And he came out shortly after Biden was inaugurated and said to immigrants all across the world, we're not saying don't come. We're saying don't come now. And then he proceeded to deny that repeatedly that he had said it. And he did say it and he did mean it. And that's that's why we have so many people storming the border. Yeah, I got a good idea for a cartoon. You could do Seamus.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Yeah, I actually is this about Biden saying come on. OK, it is the disinformation board announcing they're shutting down and then all the journalists are like writing it down and they're like breaking news and as they're doing it Nina Jankiewicz presses a button and then the whole stage like goes down into a sub base where it's like they walk in the generals like we've increased your funding by three billion dollars and so the whole thing was just disinformation no they're going the misinformation misinformation boards going out of business all our misinformation has to go misinformation of the dollar 20 percent of all misinformation that's clever i like that and then you highlight janka wicks's uh tweets and the things she said oh my god it's funny because when she said that
Starting point is 00:09:38 thing about uh the laptop she's like joe biden says 50 different people said this was like it was clearly disinformation or misinformation whichever whichever one you want to pick. And she was like, I was just quoting the president. It's like, OK, so by your standard, you are spreading disinformation. Thank you. Did you correct it? No. I mean, was that an excuse if Trump said something that was adjudicated to have been false by the fact checkers? Could you say I was just repeating what the president said? Well, not actually.
Starting point is 00:10:02 As you know, whenever Trump would make a claim and the media called him a liar he would just say well that would i that's what i was told and the media would go oh we get it we'll retract that like trump we have to trump was in fact told that he was that actually it's a funny thing what if a journalist you know donald trump said uh you know this this will cost x amount of dollars and they're like how does that make sense that's not true. Well, that's what I was told. So a journalist actually investigates, and they find the person who told Trump that. And they're like, fact check true.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Donald Trump was told this. It was corn pop. They formed an alliance. I'm trying to understand who this was originally angled to try to appeal to in the Biden administration. Was it the MSNBC liberals? I don't understand. Do you think it was to appeal to anyone or do you think it was just to try to shut people up?
Starting point is 00:10:47 Well, what they were actually trying to do, if you look at what their documentation says in the first place, their goal was to dispel disinformation outside of the U.S. Oh, Russian disinfo, right? No, like about immigration and stuff. So months and months ago,
Starting point is 00:11:03 the White House press secretary, Jen Psaki, had talked about how one of the Biden administration's plans to get people to stop trying to come to the U.S. illegally was to give proper information in those locales to tell them, like, actually don't come. So I think this was part of that effort. That was sort of the idea. But there's so little goodwill for the Biden administration at this point. They spread all kinds of ridiculous
Starting point is 00:11:31 misinformation and disinformation that coming out with something like this, they had no chance. If they had come out and said, this is part of our plan to get immigrants to not come to the u.s we're going to tell them not to come and gave it some sort of name like that it would have been much better received uh i think because a lot of people would like there to be more security at the border yeah well i mean their entire regime depends upon spreading misinformation right when they came out and were saying things like the reason we have higher prices is because store owners are greedy right and it's putin's fault that we have high gas prices i mean joe joe biden said that to tackle inflation we're going to make the corporations or what do you say makes the rich
Starting point is 00:12:16 make the rich pay more taxes and then peter ducey was like how does making rich people pay more taxes lower inflation well that counters all their arguments about how rich people they also say rich people don't stimulate spending. They just hoard all the money. So by that logic, taxing them could never curb inflation. My favorite is that Joe Biden launched his campaign off of misinformation. And also they want to. The Charlottesville stuff.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Yeah, he sure did. And Rittenhouse and everything. He lied about that. Not to mention that he's run before Charlottesville ever happened. He ran it five times. Is that better? He's lied all the time and he's plagiarized everything. Yep.
Starting point is 00:12:51 And he's going to come out and be like, I'm going to tackle this information. I came up with that. And then you're like, there's a guy standing next to him who was like writing it down. And he's like, I guess. Yeah, it's pretty sad. It's pathetic. It's just that this is a regime which repeatedly says things that are verifiably untrue. I mean, we're not just talking about a situation where someone might be using facts which are true to construct a narrative that we disagree with. Like saying that businesses are raising their prices just because of corporate greed is an unbelievably insane and easily falsifiable thing to say. Did businesses just get greedy after we flooded the economy with extra money
Starting point is 00:13:25 yes oh okay well never mind i've been fact checked they're all greedy yeah they're super greedy that's why they're that's why they're trying so hard to hire people yeah well and that's and offering all of these signing bonuses to do so and what's fascinating to me is like they just became greedy after a bunch of money was injected into the economy like that's when they decided to become greedy and raise prices. Interesting. Also, it's interesting that the Biden administration is currently looking to reduce sanctions on Venezuela in order to gain oil exports from that country, as though Venezuela is some
Starting point is 00:13:58 perfectly fine place. Like, why did we have sanctions? They haven't made any changes. It's sad that we want their stuff yeah and same with saudi arabia if it was donald trump i think we would have been able to get something out of the saudis but might be a whole nother conversation yeah let's talk about taylor lorenz so we got the story from the washington post how the biden administration let right-wing attacks derail its disinformation efforts i don't't understand why the Washington Post doesn't label this stuff opinion.
Starting point is 00:14:27 And I don't understand why NewsGuard gives them a 100 out of 100 when they don't label opinion. In it, she says right here that disinformation has emerged as an urgent and important issue. Important to whom? That's your opinion. Hey, why don't you put an opinion on this? People see this stuff and they think it's facts. It is not. It is Taylor Loren's opinion on what happened.
Starting point is 00:14:48 So anyway, in the article, she falsely claims it was right wing disinformation that derailed it when Bill Maher on his show came out and said, this is ridiculous. These are not bright people. What are they doing? Bill Maher, one of the most prominent liberal voices, said this is bad, but it was all the right wing. Now, you know what I'm offended by? She doesn't give Bill Maher any of the credit, and she gives it all to you. Yeah, she gives it to the Postmillennial. That's not fair. She claims that the Postmillennial was part of this campaign to take down the Disinformation Governance Board, and you
Starting point is 00:15:23 know, perhaps we were. Perhaps we should take some credit for that. Was she knocking on your door? No, she wasn't, actually. She's never reached out to us. She blocked me on Twitter. I found that out one time when I reached out to her for a comment about how she had doxxed libs of TikTok for no apparent reason. And she blocked me on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:15:43 It was completely unreasonable. All I did was put up a billboard in Times Square saying that she doxxed libs of TikTok, no apparent reason. And she blocked me on Twitter. It's completely unreasonable. All I did was put up a billboard in Times Square saying that she doxed libs of TikTok and then she blocked me. Seamus, are you blocked by Taylor Swift? Let's see. I guess this is going to be like a test of whether I'm like a real... Are you blocked? I'm blocked. I don't know why I'm blocked. Really? You are? Why did she block you?
Starting point is 00:15:59 Hold on. I think she might have blocked people by like if you follow... Yeah. Well, I'm on a lot of those. What's interesting, though, is that she's claiming that we dug up Nina Jankowicz's past social media posts and published articles to generate
Starting point is 00:16:15 controversy. It was not to generate controversy. It was to expose exactly who was the minister of truth who was running this bogus organization, who was running this operation, to expose who it was that the Biden administration thought it was worthwhile to put in charge of something this serious, someone who had spread disinformation themselves, someone who had, you know, essentially called for censorship and someone who clearly should not be trusted to give accurate or truthful information. It is extremely ironic because Jack Posobiec just found Cenkowicz's early tweets and released
Starting point is 00:16:48 them. And it's ironic because that's the first thing Taylor Lorenz does when she tries to make a hit piece on somebody. They just look up their old tweets. This is what Glenn Greenwald pointed out. He said, according to Taylor Lorenz, you are not allowed to dig into the private information of high ranking Homeland Security officials, but it's okay to go after
Starting point is 00:17:07 an anonymous person who has bad ideas. Exactly. When did the role of journalist become being tattletales on your average person? Like, someone on Twitter said something that I don't like.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Well, I'll tell you exactly when that happened. Almost always, hasn't it? But like the average person? I don't know. It happened with me, too. It happened with me, too. Because that was the first time when it was acceptable to just start telling tales out of school about somebody's bad date.
Starting point is 00:17:29 I think I view journalists like mini-me. Like Dr. Evil is the government and mini-me is just like, you know. Well, I mean, you made this point that that's always what they've done. I agree with you that it's always been very much corrupt. I mean, the mainstream media in this country has been as it been a disaster for a lot longer than people realize but it's the going after like everyday average random people thing which is is very strange and yeah they're they're there are creepy weirdo authoritarians running all of most of our institutions when you look at the uh supreme court leaks like these crackpots
Starting point is 00:18:06 these these people are in everything they they have no uh regard for um for tradition or culture and i'm not saying all tradition all culture i'm saying they have no regard for community they have no regard for any kind of norms respect they have I imagine they have their moral compass their moral foundation zero nothing they don't even have care and fairness it's just literally nothing
Starting point is 00:18:36 they're just confused angry people well they think that they're doing the right thing I don't believe that you don't think that they think they're doing the right thing I think they think that they're doing the appropriate thing by leaking this that they think they're doing the right thing? I think they think that they're doing the appropriate thing by leaking this information. I think they're NPCs. You think Taylor Lorenz is an NPC? Oh, no, no.
Starting point is 00:18:51 I think Taylor Lorenz is the perfect example of a modern shock jock. I think, you know, based on conversations I've had with people in the industry, it seems to me, it's my opinion, that she was hired specifically to generate outrage and controversy by writing shock content that is bordering on defamation the goal being why are we talking about
Starting point is 00:19:14 the Washington Post now because she writes something that's a clear opinion not labeled as opinion knowing it'll anger a lot of people she accuses only the right, ignores Bill Maher which will clearly, the right will be like, hey, you can't say like, that's not true and you're wrong. And then shows will produce segments where we'll talk about her. It will generate earned press, and that's what they want. So I've had some conversations. I'm trying to get better
Starting point is 00:19:39 confirmation. But my understanding is that the people at the Post are well aware of it, that there are veteran journalists who throw up in their mouths a little bit every day because they they're sickened by what the paper has become because they know she was brought on specifically as a shock jock as a culture warrior shock jock to generate scandal and that's her thing well and she does and then she goes on tv and cries about it when people don't like what she writes for better or worse i think reporting's always had this issue where people have been activists but the more i get involved and the more i pay attention to the news the more i realize that it's almost everybody that's an activist reporter nowadays
Starting point is 00:20:11 it's fine it's hard to find anybody who isn't really just trying to back up their priors this is extremely true with taylor ends but she's not the only one no definitely not definitely not i mean i've probably brought him up a million times on this show, but we talk a bit about Walter Durante every now and again. I mean, this is very early stuff. We're going back to, what, the 30s here, and the fact that he was covering up the Soviet genocide because he was himself a communist and won a Pulitzer for it.
Starting point is 00:20:37 And they're winning Pulitzers for fake news to this day. I don't think they rescinded that Pulitzer. They did not rescind the Pulitzer. That's what it was, too. They didn't rescind it either, which is insane. We've talked about doing our own journalistic award ceremony to counter the pollsters. The Timmies? I would not call it that.
Starting point is 00:20:52 That's a terrible name. Yeah. But we would call it something. Maybe like the Truth Award. That's great branding. Like, if you call your social network Truth Social. Yeah, that's what Trump would call it. I don't think you should call it that no i think it's terrible idea a lot of people he's actually trademarked the word truth yeah people someone pointed out i saw a tweet they're
Starting point is 00:21:13 like why didn't he call it kafifi like everybody would have been like download the kafifi app and everybody would want it oh that's true trump's kafifi app and you need a weird name but it's like truth and then you like post truths i hate that i hate posting truth there's a disinformation you post anything that's not true you're kicked off the website like that's it right i'm gonna retruth ah just no terrible that actually sounds uh that sounds like something the disinformation governance board would do they would retruth i think the uh the institutions are in decay i think that the culture war is split between those in the know and those who are not in the know. It has nothing to do with your political positions because I think everyone here has varying political positions we all disagree with each other on.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Because we've had these conversations before to a great degree, including foreign war or abortion. But we all agree on basically what's the fact. And so if that's what unites this table and the people watching, we are like, OK, what's true and what's not true? What can be verified? What's not verified? And then the other side of the culture war are people who have no idea the Democrats tried to create, make a legal path towards third trimester or late-term abortions. Well, they did. It's right there in the woman's house. But they didn't read the book.
Starting point is 00:22:28 I'm sorry. They didn't read the bill. Oh, it's right there. I read the bill. But that's exactly it. So if I read the bill and I'm like, that's what it says, why does it say that? And then we have a liberal progressive on the show who are like, no, no, no. It's like, did you read the bill?
Starting point is 00:22:43 No. You have to read the bill. That was like the parental rights and education bill. No one read that bill either. And so you had a bunch of people coming out, including Mark Hamill, just being like, gay, gay, gay. And it's like, what are you talking about? And it's like, no one is prohibited from saying that.
Starting point is 00:22:57 What are you talking about? It's saying don't teach them about weird sex acts in school. It literally, when they were all screaming gay over and over again, I'm like, imagine being in a daycare and all the kids are yelling neater and neater and you're like, kids, be quiet. Kids, stop yelling that. And they're all going neater and neater and they won't stop. That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Yes. They're all yelling something and you're like, why are you yelling this? Some kid goes, hey, if you yell neater and neater, they're going to get us ice cream. So they all start screaming. You're like, I'm not going to do that. That's not children. Yes. They don't know what they're talking about. They're too arrogant to actually read it. They believe these psychotic ramblings of people like Taylor Lorenz. And then we have to deal with the problems when they go and vote for nonsensical garbage. Yes. Like children suddenly believing that they are actually the opposite sex just because they came up with it randomly. It's crazy because the truth here in these larger narratives almost doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:23:53 It doesn't matter what the bill says as long as you're allowed to run on it and are able to run on it as like the don't say gay bill. That's the only thing that people are going to really understand. That was disinformation. That was disinformation. And it was repeated by the White House over and over again. It was repeated in the briefing room. You know, it's disinformation that Joe Biden says that the best course forward is gender affirmation, telling parents to affirm their children and it will save their lives. That's disinformation. This White House consistently spreads falsehoods and claims that it's true well how about how about we talk about those falsehoods we got this report from newsweek half of joe biden's twitter followers are fake that's disinformation i believe people are going you're telling me he got 80 million followers i believe this was true also we were looking at this today at post millennial uh i think this was also true of just Trudeau's Twitter followers.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Most of them are. What is this based off of? Just so. Well, there's an audit company. It's called SparkTour. It's based on Dinesh's documentary. Because I'm really cynical about this stuff only because I know when you sign up to Twitter, you're going to get like three people. It's going to be like Joe Biden, Elon Musk and like Jack or something.
Starting point is 00:25:03 And like, so I don't understand something. So I'd understand why. So I'd like to look at – I don't know. I'd like to understand the methodology a little bit, what's going on. I don't know if they reveal their methodology. And I think they said fake or spam accounts. And I'm sorry. That was Musk. That was Musk.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Well, I guess they said there was like this tweet harvesting going on. It's not clear how Musk arrived at the 20% figure. He figured out a goal and changed a series of tweets. tweets anyway so there's a couple ways to do it i think elon may have made a mistake when agrawal said it was less than five percent he said of daily active users of their active users the fake accounts comprise of less than five percent elon musk based on this said all users must be around 20 so there's difference. There are a lot of users that don't do anything. They're counting monthly or daily active users or whatever. But I believe this is likely true because the at POTUS account, whenever a bot or a spam bot will sign up, it's going to follow prominent accounts to try and look real. And of course,
Starting point is 00:26:01 it's going to follow the president. So that's like following a bunch of verified accounts. And here's a big one. Well, isn it funny how like it's a bunch of accounts with people who we know are not the actual person following an account that we know is not being tweeted by the actual person either it's like joe biden's not running the twitter account the whole thing is fake joe biden's not running the twitter account he's not running the country yeah exactly well elon musk said it's whoever's controlling the teleprompter. But yeah, Donald Trump actually was tweeting. There is no denying that. Donald Trump was actually tweeting.
Starting point is 00:26:28 He could not hire a writer to write those things. He was tweeting from the bathroom, Donald Trump, as president. Isn't that how everybody tweets? Can you imagine someone being like, I was Donald Trump's tweet writer, like putting that on your resume? No, it was Trump. There's no way anyone else said any of that. Would you imagine the staffers outside the bathroom reading a tweet just being like he would watch fox news and then he would tweet it right away and he'd be like tucker said this or did you hear about this
Starting point is 00:26:55 then he would go to rallies and he'd repeat it it was really obvious that he would just watch fox and be like boom something happened i i kind of i liked it i mean oh yeah you know and and you know being a journalist and seeing trump just tweet random things was really a lot of fun you could get like a whole bunch of stories just i'm on it i was saying on twitter i was told by now we do it that it was it was violence that every every day they had they were there were people journalists who were assigned to like there were journalists at news organizations who were told your job is to keep refreshing trump's twitter feed and then when he says something write it up oh my god and they were saying it was violence his tweets they were saying that it was like stressful and that they
Starting point is 00:27:38 needed like you know health days that once once he lost the election they're like finally it's over i'm sorry once he got banned. They were like, I'm crying tears of joy. I can go back to normal working now. No more stress. They were saying how they would get text messages at 2 in the morning from their boss being like, Trump just tweeted, write it up. And they'd be like, ah.
Starting point is 00:27:58 No, the world must be... It's really not that bad. I work from home. I live in New York City. I have a job as a journalist. Sometimes I have to write things at 2 a.m. and it's like, it's totally fine. I have no problem doing that. As we saw with Twitter.
Starting point is 00:28:13 I mean, if I'm up. The Twitter leaks from Veritas. This guy said he worked, what, four hours in the last quarter? Yeah. That's right, he did. They're children. They don't want to work. The craziest thing is,
Starting point is 00:28:23 I saw someone post something where they were like, they said something about all of my friends who are going on vacation. They're summer plans. And I'm stuck here with the kids. And I'm just like – I don't understand if he's – I don't know if he's complaining or if he's bragging. I don't understand what he's trying to say. But the conversation was basically like the dinks, the the dual income no kids people were like going to travel and party and live in a good life and it's like i don't you know what i don't get i'll i'll segue sort of why everybody wants to be younger i don't get that either i'm it's like you i mean i don't want to be older either but i
Starting point is 00:28:59 don't want to be younger well i don't care either way it's like you live you grow you age and then aging i think aging is going to be painful. I'm not really quite looking forward to that. It's better than the alternative. Yes, it's better than the alternative. A lot of really great people who came before us got old, and they died. And I'm just like, why would I not want the human experience? Yeah, that is part of it.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Wait, that sounds like a cope. I'd want to live longer if I could. If I could almost live forever. Yeah, because it almost sounds like a cope. I'd want to live longer if I could. I've had this, if I could almost live forever. Yeah, because it almost sounds like, you say you don't want to live forever because we don't have the opportunity to
Starting point is 00:29:29 and I'm saying that to make myself feel better about it. You know what's funny is I have this same debate with my son who is 12 and we talk about whether or not you'd want to live forever
Starting point is 00:29:37 and I'm always like, yeah, you'd want to live forever. That's amazing. You know, you could see everything. You could see how the human story comes to a final conclusion, like what really happens and he's he's like yeah but you'd have to watch all the people
Starting point is 00:29:48 that you love and care about die why would you want to do that mom yeah but that's that's not the issue the issue is after you know a good 30 years you're like i understand humans i don't think there's any you know i mean maybe maybe you'll watch i don't want to live forever maybe you'll watch technology develop and then you'll get to the point where you can plug your brain to the matrix or something but i'm just like i would i would rather and the human experience is the human experience i don't understand why it's a bad thing that people want a bad thing i mean it's just well i don't understand why it's something to be avoided i don't think i actually avoid it either personally i look forward to being old but if if there were the opportunity to live
Starting point is 00:30:22 further no that would be cool did you ever see Johnny Knoxville I'd like to live to be like 150 something like that remember when Johnny Knoxville dressed up like an old man and just caused trouble it's because people are like he's an old guy
Starting point is 00:30:33 what are you going to do about it you know are you saying that's going to be you as an old man like Grandpa Simpson yeah not Grandpa Simpson like Johnny Knoxville was doing
Starting point is 00:30:40 like he would walk in he would just like grab a bunch of groceries and just like walk away but they're like he's just an old guy. He's confused. That is what Grandpa Simpson does. He says that they let you shoplift.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Oh, okay, okay. Well, there you go. Well, I wouldn't shoplift but when you're old, it's just like you just go and do... It's like you've got nothing left to lose. The world's your oyster.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Go skydiving and you're like... When you're like 90? Yes. You could run for president. Why go skydiving? You could still be president. I think Bernie Sanders is're like 90? Yes. You could run for president while I go skydiving. You could still be president. I think Bernie Sanders is about to run again too. Do you think he's going to run?
Starting point is 00:31:10 Yeah, I do. I think Donald Trump was probably thinking that. Talking about kids and stuff, I look forward to the summer because I have to travel a lot for work. And I'm looking forward to the summer because I'm going to take my son with me to all of the places that I have to go. And I'm stoked. It's going to be awesome. That sounds beautiful. Right?
Starting point is 00:31:28 I'm really hoping I can find good hotels with nice pools. This is what I'm hoping for for my summer. How did we get into immortality from bots on Twitter? Well, because robots never die. Yeah, those bots are going to carry Joe Biden's wisdom into the future, Tim. The person running Joe Biden's account is actually a bot. Elon doesn't audit okay that would not be surprising the person standing at the podium is actually a bot if you look at the ridiculous things that his account tweets out you know i read it would be really funny if just like one day when joe was like stuttering a guy
Starting point is 00:31:58 walked up with like a screwdriver and like bopped him on the arm and then like jiggled him and then he was like oh the economy has been in dire straits for some time it's like no he would never admit that percussive maintenance i think they call it no like he's malfunctioning sparks are coming up yeah well biden thinks putin is running the country and that's why everything's going to hell well i saw a conspiracy uh pyramid a while ago tim and i believe it had biden is a robot has one of the conspiracy theories yeah actually, actually, let me double check. Let me double check. As Biden was a robot, that's like conspiracy theories are usually negative, right?
Starting point is 00:32:30 It's like a bad thing is happening. If Biden was a robot, that's pretty good. You know, it's like right now. It wouldn't be such a bad robot. He's not a bad robot. I'm worried about Biden's capabilities to do the job. And if it turned out he's actually a robot, I'd be like, oh, OK, you know, you know, Biden's in poor health, but robots. All right. I think we should be concerned about Biden's ability to run the job and if it turned out he's actually a robot i'd be like oh okay you know you know biden's in in poor health but robots all right i think we should be concerned about biden's ability
Starting point is 00:32:49 to run the country oh one million percent we i mean i we should have been concerned during the primaries we were we were it's really terrifying to see someone who is uh as dotty and confused as this old man is actually try to lead the entire world, essentially. Isn't it wild? Which is the job. I mean, the fact that the Democratic Party even picked him, like they had other options. They had other options. They had. They picked a man.
Starting point is 00:33:13 I don't know why they did. Like, if the idea was that anyone could beat Trump, why not run Buttigieg? Right. It's like, nah. Well, we have him now anyway. He's out there fixing potholes. What do you think about Elon? He tweeted that he's officially running as a robot.
Starting point is 00:33:27 I'm sorry. He's voting. Yeah, calm down. We need a disinformation board right now. Hold on. By the way, I have to say, so I pulled the conspiracy theory pyramid up again. Yes, Biden is a robot is a conspiracy theory. Not only that, but it is a theory that makes you a danger to yourself and others to believe.
Starting point is 00:33:46 So Elon Musk tweeted, In the past I voted Democrat because they were mostly the kindness party, but they have become the party of division and hate, so I can no longer support them and will vote Republican. Now watch their dirty tricks campaign against me unfold. And he also then tweets, Political attacks on me will escalate dramatically in coming months. What do you guys think?
Starting point is 00:34:07 Does it matter? Is it something we all have experienced ourselves and know already? I think one thing that it shows is how far to the left the Republican Party has actually moved. It's substantially to the left of what it used to be. And you can tell because people like Elon Musk are going to vote republican after a lifetime of voting democrat i'm essentially a conservative because the democrats have gone so far to the left and i stayed right here and the republicans came over and i was like oh hey fellas exactly no it's true and i hear so many people say that the only time i've ever heard someone say something along the lines of i'm on the left just because the Republican Party's gone so far right is when they're on corporate media and they're some rhino.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Right. It's like, oh, no one in real life says that ever. Because it's not true. It's like some 60-year-old. It's not true. 60-year-old millionaire warmonger who's like, I don't know. I don't recognize my party anymore. Yes.
Starting point is 00:34:59 The Democrats want to blow up kids in the Middle East, so I'm going to vote for them. It's like, okay, that's why I won't. That's why I won't. Yeah for them. It's like, okay, that's why I won't. That's why I won't. Yeah. Exactly. It's the same. I'm super conflicted on Elon Musk continuing to, like, evolve and put his hands more into politics because he's going to be another billionaire potentially funding candidates in the future. He might be another Peter Thiel type figure in the future.
Starting point is 00:35:21 So it'll be interesting to see how he changes and develops. But I am highly. I wonder why he would fund any politicians do you do we well because he's trying to get involved in politics one way or another and like twitter was away president right um i think he was born in south but it wouldn't be worth it for him to run he could just have his paws on different elections and by funding people but what i was trying to get to in a full circle kind of way is that he still has deep connections to china. He still has Tesla factories in China, and he will still be at the whim of this government, the Chinese government, the communist Chinese government, that is, if he does want to do any business there in the future, he needs to make sure he doesn't
Starting point is 00:35:57 step on any toes. I know we kind of overlooked that because Musk has become this sort of anti-left figure. No, we don't overlook that. We talk about it all the time. That what? That Elon Musk has praised China on more than one occasion. He's got factories in China. Sure, but he's kind of become a hero in some online anti-left circles because he is a big voice willing to come out against these people. And it seems as though all you have to do nowadays to get a lot of fans on Twitter is say the obvious, that men can't become women or something like that. So it's just, I think people ought to be cautious
Starting point is 00:36:25 who they end up supporting being reactionaries against others. But if you think about saying men can't become women on Twitter, a month ago that would have gotten you banned from the platform. Maybe, maybe. Twitter's bans are, it's a caste system. The more followers you have, the more you can say. So I said, I tweeted, what did I tweet? Don't cut off teenage girls' tits.
Starting point is 00:36:46 And someone reported to me and I got an email from Twitter and it was like, you've been reported under German law or whatever and we found no violation. Whenever I tweet stuff like this, people are like, oh, Tim's going to get banned now. And I'm like, are you kidding, dude? I've got a million followers. They're not going to ban me. Well, the Babylon Bee got banned for saying that Rachel Levine,
Starting point is 00:37:02 who's obviously a man, is a man. That's because Twitter's policy is if you target an individual. Oh, I see. Yeah, so if you say a generality, then they give you more leeway. If you have a small account, like 100 followers, and you say men and women are different or something,
Starting point is 00:37:17 they'll ban you. If you have a big account, like the Babylon Beans, that men are different, they'd leave you alone, but they said Rachel Levine specifically. Is it too cliche to say that double mastectomies are modern day lobotomies, almost, in a way? Well, they don't remove your brain.
Starting point is 00:37:31 They don't remove the same thing, but just as we look back on lobotomies now, sort of medical malpractice is how in the future we will look back on these sort of surgeries. I was thinking about that too. I mean, it's certainly an anti-mother operation. I think it's like a butchering, it's like the next stage of plastic surgery and kind of a butchering of a body.
Starting point is 00:37:49 I don't want to deviate too far from what we were talking about because we are going to talk about this in just a second. Sure. So, you know, talking about Elon and Twitter. Sure. Well, if we're on the topic of Elon,
Starting point is 00:37:57 I just want to respond to what you said. I totally agree. I've said this in the past. I'm cautiously optimistic about Elon. I'm not totally sold. And it's absolutely true. All someone has to say is, I'm not completely all the way on the far left with respect to one single issue, or I think the left has gone too far here.
Starting point is 00:38:13 And all of a sudden, the right wing is all over that person. Yeah. And there's also a lot of parallels between Elon Musk and somebody who's commonly demonized, Bill Gates. I mean, these are both people who had their come ups in the tech industry. And some of the stuff Elon Musk says is crazier than what bill gates says elon musk is the chip planter well the difference between elon musk and bill gates romeo and juliet i will say they're both billionaires they're both you know the richest people that existed during their time period
Starting point is 00:38:38 during the top but bill gates gets demonized like no other and elon musk becomes a hero of the same people the same people who will complain about bill gates being some demonic you know cabal man will praise elon musk for the simplest things on twitter sure i want to mention one thing about that if i if i may that's the broadway show nina jankowitz plays elon musk as juliet and uh james o'keefe plays bill gates as romeo so that's the show. To your point, I hear... So the reason I consider myself cautiously optimistic about Elon Musk, but I don't like Bill Gates,
Starting point is 00:39:12 comes down to really one really important issue. It's that Bill Gates has repeatedly said things like, there are too many people in this world. He's discussed population control. Whereas Elon Musk is basically the only ultra-wealthy person saying we need more people. He's right. We we need more people. He's right. We do need more people.
Starting point is 00:39:28 No, I'm not a fan of the brain chips. Yeah, exactly. I'm not a fan of the brain chips. But I think it's gotten to the point where there are so few elites saying anything even remotely sane that when one of them does, it's a victory. And doesn't he have a bunch of kids? Yes. I know Bill Gates also has a history with his father supporting Margaret Thatcher or Sanger in the past.
Starting point is 00:39:48 That wouldn't shock me. With connections with Planned Parenthood. But I still think, you know, if you want to extrapolate what Elon Musk says with the brain chips, it's just as bad as anything I think Bill Gates has said in particular. So it's just I think it's an interesting thing how we were choosing with the Bill. Hold on. What has he said about the brain chips? I think he said he wants a few. Are you yeah so neural link is i mean it's a pretty fascinating
Starting point is 00:40:09 tool and if it's used properly i think it would really help people who are disabled okay fascinating right right so one of the things it can help do is people who have spinal injuries it can help connect their brain to other parts of the body and bill gates is trying to cure different diseases and sure sure sure and so so that's why this is a moot point. My question is, what is Elon Musk? Is he going to force the chip into people's brains? Well, offering up a service that you don't like and don't think is creepy is bad.
Starting point is 00:40:33 We can criticize people who do bad things. But the question here is around freedom. Bill Gates has called for rescinding freedoms, saying, how is Elon going to stop misinformation? You can't do this. He said, we need less people. Bill Gates has called for rescinding freedoms, saying, how is Elon going to stop misinformation? You can't do this. He said, we need less people. Bill Gates said that. And Elon Musk has said, we actually need more people to sustain the planet, and people should
Starting point is 00:40:53 have freedom of speech. Now, the things they work on, we can criticize. But when we're specifically talking about Elon and things we like, it's for the things we like. And when we criticize him, it's for the things we don't like. And the end result, I believe, freedom of speech with and and defending the rights of humans or saying people are good and we need more of them will probably create a better outcome in the long run no matter what he works on in terms of neural link bill gates saying the opposite is darkness
Starting point is 00:41:19 that will lead us on a very dark path of death and suffering. Yeah, I actually totally agree with that. And I do like this idea that we need more people because we need people to support the people that already exist and we need to create more resources. And human beings are the best resource the planet has. I don't completely agree that, you know, we've talked about overpopulation and there are a lot of people who say, actually let me try and find Google Earth. There are a lot of people who say that we're not overpopulated.
Starting point is 00:41:54 That's an opinion I think you guys have, right? Yeah. Have you ever looked at a map of the United States? Yes. Have you ever actually looked down at the level of development in North America? It's only really popping on the coasts. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:42:09 The entirety, everything. When you look at – we've got Google Earth here. When you say development, I mean like when you see pictures of it at night, you see where the lights are. Human altering terrain. It doesn't matter where the lights are. Grab Illinois, for instance, and when you zoom in, basically the entirety of the state has been developed. There's some pockets of trees in some state parks, but you can just go straight through the state in any direction. And every little square is human development. Why is that bad? So I'm not saying that's bad, but I'm certainly saying when the entirety of Illinois or other
Starting point is 00:42:40 states are completely developed, overpopulation is something that I think we should discuss or entertain. Well, shouldn't we then people maybe should move to other places? It's not about moving. They don't live there. We've taken the land and we've cut it and developed it to produce a certain thing. So perhaps we
Starting point is 00:43:00 can say, maybe we're not overpopulated, but we're overproducing. We are utilizing massive swaths of millions of acres or whatever to produce all of this food and all these resources that we're consuming like crazy. Maybe if humans consumed less, we might not have to worry about overdevelopment. We're shipping in fertilizer from Europe.an borlaug has increased crop yield but nutrient density has diminished substantially so i i think as much as i you know i i respect elon musk saying things like more people is better than less people because when you say less people
Starting point is 00:43:35 really bad things happen yeah i think we should try and make sure we're having a legitimate conversation maybe i'm wrong but i can point to a few things that i think at least would need to be questioned like the bug population collapses uh the dead zones in the ocean, fishery collapse, and mass pollution. Maybe it's not overpopulation. We talked with Michael Malice about this. It may be overpollution or overdevelopment or something. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:43:59 So I think you hit the nail on the head with that last statement. My issue with the idea of this being an over population issue framing the narrative that way is that you are with that framing indicating what the solution has to be in your mind so it's circular if you say we have an overpopulation problem that way then what you're effectively saying is the solution is for there to be less people right the salute well but but if you point out the way you did that there there are issues such as you know insect populations declining if that's the case, or pollution, then we ask the question, how can we deal with these problems? And there's no reason to believe the solution is to get rid of people or have less people. I agree with that 100%.
Starting point is 00:44:36 I think the solution is actually better agricultural technology and development. I believe it is culture. I think the United States has cultural problems. I think we all agree with that. I think we have a culture of gluttony instead of responsibility. That is a problem. Absolutely. So you have people who are morbidly obese and instead of being like, maybe I should
Starting point is 00:44:56 consume less, they're like, this is fine actually. Let's get on the cover of a magazine and tell everyone else to live this way too. I think we have a parenting problem as well because I think that parents don't teach their children to be responsible either for themselves or for others and i think that that is a key thing to do like children you know stop worrying about what college your kids are going to go to or what career they're going to have and instead teach your kids to grow up to be kind, responsible people who can take care of themselves and the people that they love.
Starting point is 00:45:27 And who also want to. I think that's what's so insidious. And find joy in it. Yeah. I saw a post not long ago, and you see a lot of this from people saying things like, you know, so much of our life is dedicated to work. And I do
Starting point is 00:45:42 believe that at some point people can be overworked 100%. And that's a problem. But they were saying things along the lines of, you know, the only thing meaningful about my life is when I'm off work. And I think a lot of that is firstly an issue with the kinds of jobs people have. Now, there's a good argument to be made for that. But also that no one finds any value in the service of others. And people don't take any pride in doing things that make other people's lives easier.
Starting point is 00:46:08 But the other thing, too, is that we have completely diminished the value of just doing work. Yeah. Right. I mean, if there's a job worth doing, and this is cliche, but there's a reason it's cliche. If there's a job worth doing, it's worth doing as well as you possibly can. You know, there was recently, I forget what it was, but sometimes there'll be like an article at work, and I'm going to be writing it at Postmillennial. And sometimes I think like, you know, I don't really feel like writing this. And then I think, okay, if you don't feel like writing it, clearly, you're missing something.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Clearly, you're missing some aspect of this story. Go figure it out, do some research, investigate it, find out the interesting part of it, and then write it. And whenever that happens, oddly, those end up being my best pieces, the ones where I'm not sure at first and I'm just kind of like, eh. And then I dig into it and I'm like, oh, that's actually fascinating. And now I have a great piece. We were talking about transitions a moment ago. So I wanted to hold off because we have a story here, actually.
Starting point is 00:47:03 This is a tweet from Colin Wright, good friend of the show. And it's actually just a repost of an Instagram post from a female amateur skateboarder. He says, female skateboarder Taylor Silverman is speaking out after placing second to a male competitor who identifies as a woman at the Red Bull Cornerstone Contest. Silverman and other female skateboarders
Starting point is 00:47:20 were robbed of their achievements and prize money that was meant for women. In the post made on Instagram, Taylor Silverman said, My name is Taylor Silverman. I am a female athlete. I have been skateboarding for 11 years and competing for several years. I have been in three different contests with trans women, two of which I placed second, and the last contest series I did for Red Bull, I placed second. The trans competitor who won took $1,000 in the qualifiers, $3,000 in finals, and $1,000 in best trick.
Starting point is 00:47:48 This totaled $5,000. Of the prize money meant for female athletes, I took $1,000 in qualifiers in 1750 for second place, so $2,750 in total. The girl who took third received $750. The girl who deserved $1,000 for best trick took nothing along with whoever would have placed third. I deserved to place first, be acknowledged for my win, and get paid.
Starting point is 00:48:12 I reached out to Red Bull and was ignored. I am sick of being bullied into silence. In the next post, Taylor Silverman posted the email sent to Red Bull saying, hope all is well with you. I am reaching out in hopes of being directed to the right person to express my concerns about what occurred at the Red Bull Cornerstone contest with the transgender competitor in the women's division. Perhaps that
Starting point is 00:48:32 is you. If not, hopefully you can put me in contact with the correct person. A biological man with a clear advantage won the women's division, best trick, and also multiple qualifiers. This took away the opportunity that was meant for women to place and earn money. What happened was unfair. And at the time I was too uncomfortable to speak up. I understand that in today's society, even some women think this is acceptable, but I believe in doing the right thing, even if it's not the popular thing. I now realize it's really important for me to speak up and I'd like to schedule a time to talk. So I have announced that, uh, I got my math wrong, to talk. So I have announced that,
Starting point is 00:49:06 I got my math wrong, but I have announced, I said Tim Kess will gladly cover the difference and grant Taylor Silverman the $2,250 difference lost to placing behind a male athlete. We will also be willing to cover the total lost revenue for the female athletes who would have placed higher
Starting point is 00:49:20 were it not for the male athlete. Now, she didn't lose $2,250. She lost $1,250 because she didn't lose 2250. She lost 1250 because she didn't win best tricks. Someone else, I guess you said, would have. And so some people have asked me, they said, you know, Tim, you said that the NCAA women, you know, it's too bad for them or whatever. I was like, no, no, no, hold on. What I said was- You mean the swimming. The swimming. I said, they are not complaining about it. How can I speak up for them if they're not speaking up for themselves? Taylor Silverman spoke up for herself, said, I don't believe this is fair.
Starting point is 00:49:52 And I believe that's deserving of support. And also, totally biased. I've been skateboarding my whole life. I had worked with the organization briefly, mind you, that actually got equal pay for women at the X Games. We've talked about it quite a bit. When I saw this, knowing what I know from skateboarding for, what am I going on, 23 years, knowing about the physical elements, knowing about the physics, Taylor Silverman is absolutely correct. And let me make this point before we get into the bigger picture. Some people have said, in response to me, we had our good friend, the amazing atheist,
Starting point is 00:50:27 said women should compete in the women's division. I responded to Colin Wright saying that men, males, have a higher center of gravity. What this means is that from a standing position, a male can ollie higher than a female. Females carry the center of gravity lower, which is better for balance in a lot of ways, but means their ollie height, their jump height will be lower. There are very clear differences and advantages that males will have regardless of hormone replacement therapy. Skateboarding is not a muscle-based sport where it's like the stronger you are, the better you can be. There's aggression, there's grit, like your willingness to take risks, and it's very
Starting point is 00:51:04 much control. If you have a higher center of gravity, you your willingness to take risks. And it's very much control. If you have a higher center of gravity, you're going to be able to clear higher obstacles. Women also have what's called a more pronounced Q angle. That's the quadricep angle, meaning because of the wide hips, the femur and the quadriceps come at a harsher angle than a male would, regardless of hormone replacement therapy. This means that biological females competing at any stage are going to be more prone to leg injuries, knee injuries, ankle injuries, a clear advantage for male athletes, regardless of if they're transitioning or not. So this one, to me, I think needs, you know, I'm biased, obviously. But also, the story's gone viral. Everybody's talking about it. I think it's important to talk about,
Starting point is 00:51:44 and I think it's important that talk about and i think it's important that people like taylor silverman are speaking out and saying you know i think this is not fair now the crazy element is her post on instagram has something like last i checked 11,000 comments yeah it's huge the anti-semitism because taylor silverman's jewish right crazy crazy and she has a star of david and her right and these are these are the leftists who hate israel who believe in these weird conspiracy theories like like the farrakhan stuff and are now going after her and attacking her for being jewish simply because she said this is money that was meant for female athletes yeah i mean look the left doesn't care about these things that they
Starting point is 00:52:21 claim to when they talk about like racism sexismism, homophobia. In fact, despite their vitriol, they don't even really care about the transgender issue. They just try to use these labels to accuse anyone they think it would be useful to get out of the public discussion. And when it comes to their attacks on other people, they're almost always willing to resort to these labels, but it's never talked about, right? So it's an instance of creating a rule surrounding certain language about ethnicities like slurs and then saying we are only going to prosecute one group of people for doing this. So people on the left can get away with it like crazy. I think they also wanted to figure out how to make sure that white men could be qualified as diversity hires.
Starting point is 00:53:14 I think stories like these are the biggest threat to so-called trans rights, because at this point, when you get into the sports and physically comparing the two, it's unavoidable. So I know for a lot of people, they think live and let live. If somebody's above 18, let them go through the process. If they want to get these plastic surgeries to make them look like the opposite sex fine it's not hurting anybody but then once you get to down to something like a competition where the differences are obvious we're going to be seeing more and more cases like this well and like leah thomas for example women's women's rights activists know about this women's rights rights activists can clearly see um that showing the unfairness of men competing against women in women's sports could be the turning point needed.
Starting point is 00:53:48 I want to give a shout out real quick to Taylor Silverman. You can follow her on Instagram, Taylor May Silverman. And on Twitter, I believe her Twitter is TM Silverman. But specifically because she posted on Instagram this, truth sounds like hate to those who hate the truth. Many people in her position didn't stand, like for the Leah Thomas, there was no woman who actually stood up. Only the one
Starting point is 00:54:11 who lost. Yeah. So this is another interesting thing. Taylor spoke up, I believe it's been a few months since the event. And I actually talked to her. We're maybe working something out. Some kind of, you know, we'll do an interview or maybe. But it's been a few months actually since the contest and I actually talked to her. We're maybe working something out, some kind of, you know, we'll do an interview or maybe.
Starting point is 00:54:27 But it's been a few months actually since the contest and I looked at her record. She's somebody who actually won, actually got cash. She got second place. You know, she qualifies. She's winning.
Starting point is 00:54:37 When it came to the NCAA swim meet, the only person who spoke up was the one who got bumped. Like an eighth place or whatever it was. Yeah, it was like, what was it, 17th or something, 16th place or something? By the way, I made a, what was it, 17th or something, 16th place or something? By the way, I made a decision.
Starting point is 00:54:46 And it wasn't even her. It was actually her teammate who spoke up on her behalf. Oh, wow. I am going to start calling all of the people who want men dressed as women to compete in women's sports men's rights activists. They are men's rights activists. If you say that a trans woman should be able to compete in women's sports, you are an MRA. And you will be adopting the language
Starting point is 00:55:06 of radical feminists when you do it. And bravo, bravo, bravo, Seamus. Look, when women talk, I listen. Didn't we talk to Vosha about that? I don't know. Yeah, I'm pretty sure we talked about men's rights activism. I said, I don't care for using the word men or women, I'll just say male. So when I tweeted
Starting point is 00:55:22 this, we had a... T.J. Kirk is his name, right? The Amazing Atheist? amazing atheist yeah tj kirk he said uh women should compete in the women's division and then i it's it's it's absurd to me that you're having a semantic argument for what reason did we create women's division sports was it because sometimes people wear dresses no it's because there are biological differences to a great degree, 90% of the time, to a great degree between males and females. And the colloquial understanding in human society was that man and woman meant male and female. In fact, to most people today, it still does. So when someone says a trans woman is a woman, therefore should compete in the women's division, it's like we didn't create the women's division based on the clothing you wear.
Starting point is 00:56:06 No. We didn't create the women's division based on how you felt that day. Like, oh, today I've decided I'm... I mean, what if someone's gender fluid? And I'm serious. That's not just like a dunk on the lips. What if someone is gender fluid?
Starting point is 00:56:16 On the day they feel like a woman, do they compete in the women's division? The answer would be yes. There is actually a CEO in the UK who... Makes 70 cents less per dollar when they identify as a woman that day? No. Oh, okay. In fact, I believe it's a CEO who is gender fluid and some days wears pencil skirts and some days wears trousers and was honored as like best woman CEO or or something like that so playing both sides for
Starting point is 00:56:47 the day when he was in the pencil skirt one of the uh difficulties for anyone to speak up is that they're speaking out against people they know and that's a big component that i think a lot of people should understand so i know many pro skateboarders for years i have been told by many pro skateboarders they're upset with what's happening they're upset with politics many secretly support trump and they all say but i cannot risk my livelihood to speak out and so exactly well don't don't don't come to me but i will say i wanted to add something to this uh there is an issue at play here and it is a pro skateboarder that i have met and skated with on a couple occasions who's friends with people i know named leo baker uh leo baker is a is a non-binary
Starting point is 00:57:31 i believe formerly i believe trans man and before that was was a top female athlete named lacey baker and i i i i mean no disrespect but i have questions. And that question is when Leo was competing as a female in the women's division as Lacey Baker and winning, Lacey transitions into Leo, says that they're trans, but continues to compete against women. So my problem is who is coming out and saying that Taylor Silverman is wrong when she says this? Why is it that a biological male can say that they now identify as a woman and compete against women, but a biological female can say I am now trans but still compete against women? It's because everyone knows that it's fake.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Everyone is aware of the lie. And we're supposed to just deal with the fact that we know it's a lie and say something that is untrue, which is exactly what happens, which is literally what happens in the book 1984, is that you're supposed to know that, you know, you believe the truth and you speak the lie. And that is the most dangerous aspect of this. What I want to add, too, sorry, just because when I saw this story, I saw Colin Wright's tweet that Taylor spoke out. That's look, Taylor is not somebody who is a prominent pro skateboarder with millions of followers who can risk speaking out and be rich. These pro skateboarders who tell me they can't speak out. I'm like, you own how many houses? You have how many followers? You'd lose half of them.
Starting point is 00:59:08 You'd still be rich. Or at the very least, you'd be middle class. Well, J.K. Rowling speaks out. She's spoken. She's said that she has lost opportunities. She keeps speaking out. She keeps being active for women's rights. And I have the utmost respect for that.
Starting point is 00:59:23 I have the utmost respect for Ms. Silverman here. And I hope that, you know, I hope that you guys work out a great situation and that she's able to be, you know, continue being successful in her chosen path. We all know that it's unreasonable. When we saw Leah Thomas swimming in the pool against women, we could all see that it was completely a total lie that this person should be competing against these much shorter, much smaller, much less strong women. And we were just supposed to go along with it anyway. And people did. And it's shocking to see that. And I think that the more this happens and the more we see women athletes start to speak out, the more, hopefully, the tide will shift on this. And, you know, Beth Stelzer, who does Save Women Sports,
Starting point is 01:00:05 who's a really fascinating person who saw this happen in weightlifting, you know, she's been fierce and fighting on this. I think the key thing you said there is women, and it needs to come from women. And that's why I think Taylor May is so commendable here. It's great. Because if it doesn't come from women, I mean, men could bark about this all they want, but it's women who are the victims and are missing the opportunities because of this. So they, unfortunately, in our society, need to be the most vocal about it because people don't like listening to men.
Starting point is 01:00:29 So I'll address one super chat, and they're saying that I complained that the swimmers didn't speak up until after they had lost. So let's break this down. First, is Tim biased? Yes, obviously. I'm a skateboarder. I've been skateboarding for 23 years. So, of course, I see this story, and I'm like, oh, harumph. How dare they? But there is a difference.
Starting point is 01:00:50 With the NCAA, they had been consistently competing. They knew it was happening. They knew it was going to happen. They had swam more than one time. There were multiple races. My understanding of this story, having dug into it and spoken with some people involved, when you go to a skateboarding contest, you don't know who you're competing against. They say, hey, there's going to be a contest in this place at this time. You go to a skateboarding contest, you don't know who you're competing against. They say, hey, there's going to be a contest in this place at this time. You go to a local qualifier, then you show up and all of a sudden you see who you're competing against. My understanding is that this is not an instance that's exactly the same where this person knew I'm going to fly to this place and compete in this contest against a trans person. It was, they showed up and said, oh, really? Now, fair criticism.
Starting point is 01:01:28 It did take Taylor a few months to speak out. And I think, you know, you need to speak out sooner than that. And, but that's fine. I mean, look, man, I can be angry and critical. And I think the fact that she was second place, won cash, could have walked away with the cash, not as much cash as she wanted. But instead, she's like, no, no, no, no. I've got to say something about this.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Because the woman who got bumped out of the bracket isn't speaking up. Like with the NCAA, the woman who got bumped from the bracket was the one who spoke out. And I said, you're only speaking out because you lost the money? Well, in this instance, the person who got bumped didn't speak out. The person who did get the money is the one speaking out. And I'm like, okay. But either way, either way. I got to say, I love that they came for your sport and you were just like, no, that's it.
Starting point is 01:02:12 I'm not doing it. Then they came for skateboarding. They came for swimming and I said nothing because I do not swim. That's not true. I think there's a fair element there. Absolutely. I think there's a fair element. But I think that's great.
Starting point is 01:02:23 I think that's great. When you see it happen in your own stuff, I think it really makes a big difference. I saw this happen in theater when suddenly grants that were, because, you know, there were grants like women's plays. Only women should submit plays for this and, you know, proposals and whatever. And then the granting opportunities and the opportunities that had been specifically for women were suddenly for women or self-identified women. And I was like, what's this about? This is not reasonable.
Starting point is 01:02:50 This is not for playwrights who are men in dresses. This is supposed to be for women playwrights. And everything changed. Everything changed very quickly. And that's why, you know, that's in part why i started speaking out about this because i found that so infuriating and stupid it is infuriating and it's not as if anyone could change the the definition of woman like men and women are different but i do find it comical that women were never asked no because only they were literally never asked dudes started wearing dresses and like, yeah, we're women. It's like, do you have opinions about that?
Starting point is 01:03:27 Like, yes. No, you're not allowed to. You're not allowed. Imagine a situation. There was no policy. There was no committee. Imagine a situation where a six-foot-tall man in a dress with heels looks down at you and says, I'm a woman. I'm a woman.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Are you going to say otherwise? You're like, yeah, no, you're a woman. Oh, sure. Okay. Don't hurt me, Mr. Crazy Man. We try to be respectful to people who are – we try to be respectful. As I mentioned often, even Ben Shapiro said he would use preferred pronouns in a public setting because it's just easier, though he doesn't agree with it, and wouldn't
Starting point is 01:04:00 use it in an academic or a journalistic setting. We are the tolerant. We say, I may not like it, but I'm going to mind my own business. You do your thing. And that's how gay marriage comes to pass. We're like, okay, look, you're going to get your tax benefits. You can go into your home. You can do your thing.
Starting point is 01:04:18 And then it's funny because there's that meme from 2000 and was it 2012 or something? I was like, what happens if gay 12 or something or 2000 yeah it was like what happens if gay marriage becomes legalized and it's like world war three will happen people will start teaching kids about about gay sex and it's like and here we are those things are happening that's what's going down let's jump to the story though from the ap u.s soccer equalizes pay in milestone with women and men they say the u.s soccer federation reached a milestone agreement to pay its men and women teams equally, making the American national governing body the first in the sport to promise both sexes matching money.
Starting point is 01:04:52 Oh, boy. So this is why I think this is crazy. Lydia. They have different pay structures. They're different leagues. It would be like, imagine if Burger King announced that they were going to be paying McDonald's employees the same rates. So my question is. Are they bringing the men up or the women down?
Starting point is 01:05:05 Or the reverse? They cut the men's salaries. Yeah, it's just like, yeah, all right, we're cutting funds. But so are they taking funds that were generated by the men's division and giving them to the women's division? Because the women's division can't make enough to pay them what they pay the men. Yes. I think that's what it is. So it says, U.S. women and men's team agree historic deal to share World Cup prize money.
Starting point is 01:05:28 That is very insulting to the people who are generating that revenue. So I think the AP was wrong. What the story is, at least from The Guardian, is that they're going to share each other's prize money with each other. So are they saying that the women should be dependent upon men's money? I find that interesting. I find that interesting. So the men are going to be giving up... Are men providers? I guess so. The men are going to
Starting point is 01:05:50 give up large, you know, millions upon millions, and the female athletes are going to give up hundreds of thousands. So why would men play for the U.S. team? Why wouldn't they just go play in Europe and make a lot of money and not play on the national team at all? The interesting part about this is that the men's team is actually trash
Starting point is 01:06:06 relative to other men's soccer teams. Well, sure. No, our female soccer team is one of the best in the world. Right, but still men's soccer generates more money. Yeah, exactly. But it's number one. So if we're America first right now, then we should be rooting for our women's team. Yeah, root for them, but they're still generating less money,
Starting point is 01:06:23 so why should they get more? Yeah, we should support them too. We should buy should buy what was i mean if people want to support it you can buy a wrap where's your rapinoe jersey a lot like where is it let's see why aren't you dying your hair purple just to get like megan rap i did these activists can watch in new york city well there was a parade yeah when they won a few years ago the people who want to support the parade the people who want to support the women's team, they can watch. People can get invested in this without having to take from the men's team. And it's funny because you mentioned the men's team is not that good.
Starting point is 01:06:52 I don't follow sports, but I've heard that. But it's not as if anyone's saying, well, you know, we should be giving the trophies that the women win to the men's team because we just like men more. What we're saying is if a group of people earn a certain amount of money, they should get that amount of money. And if a group of people earns less than that, you don't redistribute it to make them feel better. It's a socialist soccer team. Especially when they're making money playing sports.
Starting point is 01:07:14 They have a dream job. They're an athlete. You do when you're a communist. Right. It's a socialist soccer team. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's funny.
Starting point is 01:07:20 Which makes sense because it is a European sport, right? No one's South American. I love when the Blue Checkies journalists were like, the women actually win and the men don't. But the men are getting paid more money. And it's like the men negotiate a different pay structure. That was literally it. Well, there's also different audiences. There were bonuses or guarantees.
Starting point is 01:07:39 And the women wanted guarantees. The men wanted bonuses or something. So it's like the men got bonus money and made money and the women didn't or something. But also, yeah, it's just like, imagine someone working at McDonald's
Starting point is 01:07:49 and they're like, this McDonald's makes a million dollars per month. And then across the street is a Burger King that's only making like $500,000 per month.
Starting point is 01:07:56 So the Burger King employees get angry and go on strike and say it's not fair that McDonald's employees get paid more than us. It's like, you're different businesses. I get you both sell cheeseburgers,
Starting point is 01:08:04 but you're different businesses. So then they agree to share their salaries. Like, like, you're different businesses. I get you both sell cheeseburgers, but you're different businesses. So then they agree to share their salaries. Like, okay, sure, I guess. So, yeah, that doesn't make any sense at all either. So do, like, if the men win, they have to give money to the women or something? I think they're going to be less incentivized to win. They're not making as much money.
Starting point is 01:08:19 The men's team's going to do even worse. Less incentivized to play on this team. So wait, hold on. Well, you said the men's team is really bad. So does that mean the men aren't going to win and aren't going to make money? And so the women's team isn't going to end up making this money from the men anyway? I think it's more people who just care. The people supporting the women here, they're men's rights activists. They think men should be getting alimony.
Starting point is 01:08:38 What if we got trans women to fill the women's league instead? But they would have to i guess we could right well i'm sorry are they trying to exclude trans women from their space so the issue that i had with the uh well the question is are there any trans women on the women's soccer team we don't even know that and if there aren't it's clearly bigotry obviously yeah well i mean you know the argument from the left on this is uh again, the amazing atheist tweeted at me that tall people are better at basketball. We don't ban tall people. And it's like, okay, so then for what reason don't we just seek out only trans women to play in the WNBA who are going to be taller or in women's soccer who are on average going to be substantially taller and have more bone density and muscle mass. The point I was bringing up with the skateboarding thing is that people like to mention strength.
Starting point is 01:09:30 It's like in swimming, your strength matters. Your strength and endurance matters. But in skateboarding, it doesn't. In skateboarding, it is control. It is timing. And the advantage of having a higher center of gravity, of having narrower hips, no matter what you do or change, that's not going to have an impact. I'm wondering if in these skate contests, I don't think they have any hormone requirement like some sport leagues do where it's like you got your testosterone has to be a certain level.
Starting point is 01:10:16 Because that wouldn't matter anyway. In which case, my point is, are we going to come to the point where if the argument is based on gender as a social construct and not sex, then someone who's literally a 6'6", 250-pound muscular male could just be like, I'm a woman. Like Zuby, right? When Zuby did the deadlift and said he was a woman, why not? That should be completely permissible. Under their ideology, yes. Yes. In which case, the women's... I got to say, why? How about for women's soccer, we just get a bunch of males?
Starting point is 01:10:30 I'm not saying this disparagingly or as a gotcha or anything. No, it's a real question. I think you're just being inclusive, Tim. Well, no, no. But in all seriousness, if the goal of the team is to win money, the goal of the team is to win contests, we want the brand to succeed and the coaches want the best team possible, then they should have open tryouts and just bring on the best possible people that there are. And if the team ends up being 90% trans women, we'll win more. Good.
Starting point is 01:10:56 I'm curious as to when we're going to see an actual big backlash from women on this actual issue as it becomes more common because there aren't that many trans women in these sports yet but as we continue to age you know the the youth i think it's something like 20 to 30 percent of the youth nowadays um considers themselves some form of lgbtq yeah here's an issue though there's a there's a lot of problems with um early medicalization for trans identified youth um and this was this was sort of interesting recently a mom reached out early medicalization for trans-identified youth. And this was sort of interesting. Recently, a mom reached out to me and hipped me to a talk that was given by Dr. Marcy Bowers at Duke University, who is trans and has performed some 2,000 trans surgeries. A trans doctor performing the trans transfer. Right. Okay. And has
Starting point is 01:11:47 performed these surgeries on young people, um, has also prescribed the, uh, puberty blocking drugs, the Lupron, as well as the cross-sex hormones. If a child goes on puberty blockers and then goes directly on to cross-sex hormones and does not go through a natural puberty blockers and then goes directly onto cross-sex hormones and does not go through natural puberty, they will never orgasm. They will never have full sexual function. Or the emotional. Or the emotional aspect. Additionally, if you're a little boy and you go on a puberty blocker and then you start taking estrogen, you will never have enough genital material to be converted into the wound that is then referred to as the neovagina. That will also not work. Additionally, if you are a young person and you start taking
Starting point is 01:12:38 cross-sex hormones, you're going to have substantial problems with bone density. So the odds that you're... Yeah, blood coagulation, all with bone density. So the odds that you're... Yeah, blood coagulation, all of these things. So the odds that you're going to be able to play sports are remarkably small because you're just not going to have the physical capability to do that. So if a young man doesn't go through natural puberty, he's not going to be able to play against Megan Rapinoe.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Anyone who does that to a child belongs in jail i i think that's happening in how many states now it's uh what is it florida um i think iowa maybe florida there was iowa um was it oklahoma texas i know there's a couple of states where it's it's illegal texas they'll they'll take the kids from the parents. Right. And then they actually ended up investigating. It was Ken Paxton's office. And it was actually inspired by Libs of TikTok, which Libs of TikTok, I talked to her about it.
Starting point is 01:13:35 And she was like, that was amazing. Like, I actually helped, you know. But what was interesting is the attorney general's office then found themselves investigating a parent who worked at Texas Social Services for medically transitioning their child. I think one of the great lies, one of the big lies among trans activists, obviously beyond that men can actually become women and women can actually become men is that these puberty blockers have no consequences and that we have fully studied their unintended consequences. We're right now giving puberty blockers that were supposed to be used to treat, I forgot what exact hormonal diseases, but we don't fully understand what these puberty blockers do when used in the case of gender dysphoria in children.
Starting point is 01:14:23 It's not completely reversible. There haven't been studies. And it's not completely reversible. There haven't been studies. The studies aren't done. And it's not completely reversible at all. There's not any reason to believe that it's reversible. But this is the argument made to allow to walk that back. Once a child goes on those puberty blocks, Lupron, right, which is supposed to address precocious puberty,
Starting point is 01:14:46 and then you take the child off. But in cases of healthy children, you go on it, they put you on it, and then you immediately transition to cross-sex hormones. So you don't, and most kids who go on the puberty blockers do go on to take the cross-sex hormones because they're already believing it. So it's not a pause button. It's an initiation. Yeah. Yeah. The thing is, you can't exactly tell when somebody is going on hormone blockers, so it's hard to visibly see how many people are doing it. But what I do see as somebody who's from New York City, Brooklyn specifically, one of the most trans parts of the city, is that double mastectomies are relatively common. This isn't something that like you don't see or hear about from friends or friends or see
Starting point is 01:15:29 people. Yeah, it's relatively common. And I think that to convincing women that the right move or whatever you're dealing with interpersonal women deal with a lot of issues mentally going through puberty, etc. But to convince them to get double mastectomies to remove their breasts, again, I think is a form, is comparable to modern-day lobotomies. And not just women, girls. I mean, it happens
Starting point is 01:15:52 to people who are underage. It happens to girls. If I may, just one thing. They talk about how they tell kids if you're not comfortable in your own body, then perhaps you're trans. And I think it's important for people to realize that it's not really that normal to be comfortable in your own body.
Starting point is 01:16:13 Like, bodies are super uncomfortable. Especially during puberty. And especially during puberty. Especially during puberty. Puberty sucks for everybody. Like, it feels weird and yucky to have your body change. I know personally, like, I was 18 before I realized that I should wear a bra and it was my, it was my college roommate who was like, you really need to do this. And I was like, ew, gross. I don't really want to be involved in this. Oh, you guys are all embarrassed.
Starting point is 01:16:34 That's really cute. Um, I mean, I never realized the way I was horrified. I was like, I was, I was horrified by being, by like being a grown woman. I was like, this is really uncomfortable. For men, it's called a bro. Right. You've got to wear it when you're like 50. Right. Didn't Kramer do that on Seinfeld? No, it was George's dad.
Starting point is 01:16:53 That's right. No, he wanted the man's ear. The man's ear. But he had teamed up with Kramer. Kramer wanted the bro. That's right. He's like, no. And they were arguing about it.
Starting point is 01:17:02 The bro. The bro. The bro. So let's throw it back to eugenics in the early 1900s. When we had Matt Bender on the show. I like that segue. Well, it's because it's the idea that progressives aren't always right. They think they are.
Starting point is 01:17:15 They think they always win, but that's not true. Seamus made a good point. He said every instance in U.S. history where someone has tried to deny personhood to another group of people they've always lost something like that right yeah no group of people who has ever made the distinction between human and person and said it's technically a human but not a person has ever been on the right side of history when we examine the situation later so you look back at eugenics and we've we've done away with that it's like a bad idea nobody likes that yet the you know tenants of it still exist. Like when we had
Starting point is 01:17:46 Matt Bender on the show, he was saying, he kept saying over and over again, if a baby was born with deformity of abnormality, you wouldn't be in favor of ending its life. And I'm like, no. And he was shocked by that. And I'm like, I'm not into eugenics. If a human being is born
Starting point is 01:18:02 different, we want it to try and live. What an ableist view that is that you should abort disabled children. Here's the issue. Genetic diversity is important to the health of any species. This is basic science. It's observable. If we start saying these traits are undesirable, where does it end? And I'm not going to, oh, slippery slope.
Starting point is 01:18:21 No, no, quite literally you have parents being like, oh, he's got a heart issue perhaps. They're going to look at the DNA and they're going to say, when he's in his 30s, he may experience this. So why don't you try again? They'll go, okay. And then you're going to move the needle more and more until at what point are you arguing that it's just designer babies? And at what point do you end up with a disease that primarily affects people with a specific gene or specific cell receptor? And then all of a sudden it's like we didn't realize that homogenizing the gene pool was going to result in population collapse, but here we are. So I'm just like, you don't do that.
Starting point is 01:18:57 Well, Tim, the left has actually disproven the slippery slope. They showed us it's actually just a cliff. I mean, you go right over instantly. We mentioned aborting for whatever disabilities. I'm trying to look up the exact source because I remember this in the past, but what I'm reading right now from The Atlantic is that in Denmark
Starting point is 01:19:16 they actually do tests to see if the child does have Down syndrome. According to what I'm reading, it says nearly all expecting mothers choose to take the test. Of those who get a Down syndrome diagnosis, more than 95% choose to abort. That's right. So this isn't just some fantasy tale scenario that we're talking about. This is actually happening.
Starting point is 01:19:35 The thing, too, is you get to decide, right? They have all of these. Because I was older when I had my son. I was like 35 when I was pregnant. And there's all these tests that they can give you that give you like, you know, if he's going to have whatever. There's something about X's. I don't really know. But there were a ton of them.
Starting point is 01:19:54 And they were like, oh, you need to take this and this and this. And I was like, why? And they were like, you know, because it'll tell you if your child has a deformity. And I was like, I'm good. Don't care. I don't need any of that. I think there is an argument to be made about,
Starting point is 01:20:07 I'm not saying abort children who have Down syndrome, but there is some version of a quality of life argument. But I do think the argument starts to become is where do you draw the line to where you abort a child? I'm not saying it's okay or not okay for Down syndrome, but if we keep moving the needle or the line, it's like, well, if your kid has diabetes, do we potentially want to abort him because what if they're short yeah yeah what if they're short what if they're going to have male pattern baldness
Starting point is 01:20:32 you know i hear like two out of five men do right corner like a roman ad yeah it would be the end of them ever the end of so many great and very important people. That's right. When all the parents would have to do is bestow a beanie upon them. Exactly. I gotta say, I like a beanie. Lydia pulled up the story where it talks about what is this, Prader-Willi syndrome. It says studies have found its positive results are incorrect more than 90% of the time.
Starting point is 01:20:58 Insanely high numbers. I read about this. I think we wrote about this a while back. And it is absolutely insane because the genetic testing is not always correct. You want to talk about the death penalty being wrong, what, 25% of the time? I want to talk about this test and why people abort their babies. I'm against all of it. I'm against abortion.
Starting point is 01:21:16 I'm against the death penalty. I'm against euthanasia. I'm against all of it. This is an important point. When we're talking about the death penalty, there's an argument to be made, all right, well, like 75% of the time or whatever, that person's guilty, whether you agree with the death penalty or not, if the number is 25%. But whether a child has Down syndrome or not, they're innocent. It's wrong to kill them.
Starting point is 01:21:35 So people are horrified because they go, oh, my gosh, all these children died who didn't even have the disease that I think it's okay to kill people with. They're getting it backwards. You just should not kill unborn children yes when we were talking with matt he it was just it man it was kind of crazy when he was like you said you would stand with those who wanted to ban abortion and i was like i said if my option was you who wants to legalize elective abortion at nine months or standing with the people who would ban it i will stand with the people who will ban it that's how yeah because that reduces the amount of death yes but he didn't understand and he was like you you just want to ban abortion it's like
Starting point is 01:22:13 no but that's what they're told that's what they tell themselves they have to say tim it has to be for a lot of the way some people view you it has to be that black and white that's why you have to be right wing in that dude's eyes. It's so... You know. But it was funny because it was like two... It was like a progressive and a liberal arguing over abortion.
Starting point is 01:22:30 And the people who are watching who are conservative are like, these people are far left. Everybody's insane. I know, right? I'm like, I'm pro-choice. And he was like... I asked him and he said that he thought the woman can choose to abort the baby at nine months.
Starting point is 01:22:42 And I'm like, that's not... You just deliver it. The people in the middle always also to abort the baby at nine months. And I'm like, that's not – you just deliver it. The people in the middle always also get called the opposite of whatever side. So, for example, like if you're a 14-weeker, pro-lifers are calling you pro-choice. But pro-choicers are calling a 14-weeker relatively pro-life. Do they say that? Right wing. 100%.
Starting point is 01:22:59 If you're not up until nine months, then you're essentially pro-life. Look at the conversation we had with Matt. Yeah. But I think like pro-life and Look at the conversation we had with Matt. Yeah. But I think pro-life and pro-choice is a dichotomy, right? You're either in favor of legal abortion or you're against it. I realize that there are some people who are in favor of it at different stages or against it at different stages. But ultimately, it's a binary. You're either okay with abortion or you're not.
Starting point is 01:23:19 That's why at TimCast.com we say pro-abortion or anti-abortion. Yeah. Because pro-choice and pro-life are just stupid buzzwords. It's rhetoric. Matt says he's pro-choice but not for men. What do you mean he's not pro-choice for men? Women have the right to make a financial decision to kill a baby, but a man doesn't have a right to
Starting point is 01:23:35 choose to abandon the baby. So if a woman is pregnant and she says, I can't afford this, she can terminate the pregnancy. It's her body. It's her choice. The man could also be broke, but he can't say, I would like to be removed from financial responsibility and choose not to have a child.
Starting point is 01:23:52 So basically he's infantilizing women. Oh, yeah, of course. I mean, that's typically what the left does. They say that women aren't responsible for their choices. You're not responsible for having sex with somebody if you had too much to drink. That's on the man, even if the man had just as much to drink or more.
Starting point is 01:24:07 Do you remember that poster? Which one? There was a poster that went up at school that went viral several years ago where it was like, have you both had too much to drink? Well, you're raping her. That's right. It's like, well, you're both drunk. You're both trashed, bro.
Starting point is 01:24:22 Especially, I think in Illinois. But I think that's infantilizing. In Illinois, the statute is that rape is specifically male on female and women can't rape. Like, I don't think there's no law for it. Can, I mean, I guess women can rape. It's hard to imagine. No, it happens. It happens. I mean, there was the story of that guy in the store where the woman force fed him Viagra or something.
Starting point is 01:24:40 Oh, my goodness. Yeah. I will say generally it is harder for a woman to rape a man but it definitely does happen it's actually assault from women guys guys you are just you're oversimplifying this a guy can be sexually attracted to a woman and have a girlfriend and be like i can't do this and then she can still coerce him or force him she can lean in his ear and say i'll accuse you of doing something i'll claim you hit me she can spike his drink there's a whole bunch of stuff. There's also been
Starting point is 01:25:05 I think substantial number of cases where a female teacher has raped a male student. Like if a male student is 15 you don't have a ton of control over your whole situation and your teacher is 28 or 30 or whatever. I think the
Starting point is 01:25:21 revelation here is that... I was just reading an article about that today. I think the real here is that... I was just reading an article about that today. I think the real epiphany for all of us here is that women are obviously the real perpetrators the whole time. Yeah, there you go. I knew that all along. Or perhaps equality means that everyone
Starting point is 01:25:36 is responsible for their own decisions and the outcomes and consequences of those decisions. That's exciting. When you talk to a progressive... Maybe I read too much Camille Paglia. I don't know. When you talk to a progressive about Maybe I read too much Camille Paglia. I don't know. When you talk to a progressive about abortion, they say, well, the man made his choice.
Starting point is 01:25:49 He could have chosen not to have sex. And it's like, but not the woman. I've heard someone say that before. I once heard someone say that you can choose not to have sex in order to not get pregnant. I've said this before. At some point, left-wingers just end up
Starting point is 01:26:04 making right-wing arguments, but in really inconsistent ways. Right. That's what was confusing to me. I was like, I don't understand what your position is. Like, what are you opposed to? What do you support? And it's just you get these these empty buzzwords. You know, it's her decision.
Starting point is 01:26:18 It's her choice. No matter how many times me and Seamus were basically talking about the baby's body. What if the baby's a girl's? The baby. Is it her choice? Matt's answer was talking about the baby's body. What if the baby's a girl? Is it her choice? Matt's answer was, it's the woman's choice. And it's like, the baby is alive and being born. It's the woman's choice.
Starting point is 01:26:34 He's like, it's her body. It's like, but what about the baby's body? It's just right over the head. There's no argument. You can't argue if someone doesn't understand what you're talking about. Makes it hard, yeah. Yep. Well, I thought,
Starting point is 01:26:50 I think we did have a very productive conversation with Jamie yesterday, and one point he made, and again, I mean, I very much enjoyed it. And by the way, I'll say this, and we talked, we did it, we appreciated Matt coming on and being willing to have a conversation with us, and I mentioned it was mostly with Tim. there was a couple moments i felt a need to interject i
Starting point is 01:27:08 didn't want it to be on two two on one there were a few times i was like all right i have to jump in here because this is like blatantly incorrect i need to say something but what i really appreciated about jamie is he clearly disagreed with me on the pro-life issue but i felt as if his questions were very much in good faith and he was sort of curious about the perspective and he said something which was we're not really going to get anywhere with the dialogue if people like don't have faith that they can reason with the person they're talking to and they don't have some basic empathy and understanding for the other position people on the left like you by the way i just want to say empathy for it doesn't mean it's a good position and i agree with it like i think i think it's completely abhorrent to uh in abortion, but also at the same time, I think a lot of people believe in it because they just don't understand the issue that well.
Starting point is 01:27:52 How can you have a coherent political discussion with people who believe Justice Millett? You can't. Yeah, that makes it tough. Like Taylor Lorenz can write every article in the world, and people like, they stare at it with drool coming out of their mouths and it's like, maybe this person can't understand arguments. It's so funny that you just mentioned Jesse Smollett because I just pulled up a post-millennial article
Starting point is 01:28:14 saying, flashback, Dr. Oz pushed Jesse Smollett, hate crime. Is that true? I mean, we all pushed it. We all came out the next day and released our public statements, didn't we? We'll see if Dr. Oz ends up coming on top of it. Dr. Oz also was pro-trans and kids and was pro-abortion prior to 10 minutes ago. We couldn't get Sean Parnell?
Starting point is 01:28:36 I know, right? Man. That's crazy. Have they called it for – who's going to win that? I don't know yet. It doesn't matter. McCormick versus Oz. I don't think they called it yet,
Starting point is 01:28:45 but I wanted to mention something about Dr. Oz. I covered the Pennsylvania rally. I was asking people, is Dr. Oz America first? Most people said no. One person that I spoke to said, Dr. Oz is the kind of guy who's supported by Oprah Winfrey. That's why he doesn't like him.
Starting point is 01:29:01 And then I responded to him, you know, Trump also supports him, and Oprah originally supported Trump too. And then I responded to him, you know, like Trump also supports him. And Oprah originally supported Trump, too. Like I'm old enough to remember when Oprah Winfrey supported Trump's originally when Trump started running. Wasn't Hannity like the the the Trump whisperer for Oz? It was so like it was so weird to so many people why Oz got that endorsement. It's interesting. We're seeing like this celebritification.
Starting point is 01:29:23 I don't know if we're seeing it more. I'm just paying more attention. But it's there was Trump originally like this celebritification I don't know if we're seeing it more I'm just paying more attention but it's there was Trump originally there's Dr. Oz there's also I forgot the superstar football player college football player in Georgia who's running for Senate I don't remember he has the gay son who's
Starting point is 01:29:37 a conservative activist to Walker Walker Herschel Walker yeah he's running for Senate, I believe, too, in Georgia. So it's interesting that we're seeing the celebrification. More celebrities throwing their hands in the races. Although we saw that with
Starting point is 01:29:54 Ronald Reagan. He was a famous Hollywood actor. All right. And you can't get more famous than JFK. Smash that like button. Would you kindly smash that like button? Subscribe to this channel. Share the show if you do like it. Head to timcast.com become a member we're gonna have that members segment coming up at 11 p.m tonight and um what am i missing oh yeah get your super chats and we're gonna read some super chats right now all right gertius maximus says project veritas presents
Starting point is 01:30:18 to catch a redditor that's nice that's actually hilarious Why don't you take a lean over there? El Guapo says, Good to see Libby back on Timcast. She is such a breath of fresh air. She is so intelligent, well-spoken, and absolutely beautiful. Oh my goodness. Wow. I agree with that guy.
Starting point is 01:30:38 Aw, you guys. Rilo says, Ending disinfo board is evidence. They put the cart before the horse. Government can only restrict government speech, so how the F could they run midterm spygate scandals of the board tasked with stopping disinfo that is funny they they just shut it down because they realized their only ability was to caught their own lies they're like wait a minute it's gonna stop us from lying they were like way too busy fact-checking joe biden they fact-checked joe biden then they're like wait a minute the only
Starting point is 01:31:02 thing we're allowed to say is that Joe Biden lied? Wait a second. Andrew Irvin says, Post Millennial is reporting that 76 brand gas stations are preparing for $10 a gallon gas, and that gas stations in the Tri-Cities are running out of gas. Yeah, that's Katie Davis Court's reporting.
Starting point is 01:31:18 Yeah. Yeah, I think we saw that the other day. Yeah, we pulled it up and didn't get to it last night. It was really interesting. Maybe we'll talk about it in the after show. Yeah. Lunderwear says, do a Project Veritas skit like Mission Impossible.
Starting point is 01:31:29 Dossiers on Twitter that self-destruct and 3D printed masks for O'Keefe. Oh, yeah. True Hello says, so you think suspended is code word for slipping with a black budget program outside of the purview of public congressional hearings? That was the joke. That when they're like, we're suspending the program, and then all the journalists write it down and say, all right, and they leave, they turn around and the general's like, your budget's being increased. Well, the other thing, too, is there was supposed to be a hearing, a Senate hearing, and it was canceled.
Starting point is 01:31:56 Oh, wow. Yeah, the Disinformation Governance Board hearing was canceled because of all of the disinformation surrounding the Disinformation Governance Board. Interesting. Mm-hmm. Interesting. Yeah. Amber Birds says I can't ignore the timeline of the disinformation board shutting down as Bezos says Biden needs to be fact checked by the disinformation board. Yup.
Starting point is 01:32:15 Yeah, that was funny, too. I think they realize what that meant. I think that people that you've got a government agency, there's going to be lawsuits and then they're going to be forced to be like, yeah, Joe Biden lied about this, lied about this, lied about this. And so did Nina Jankowicz, and so did Jen Psaki. They all lied.
Starting point is 01:32:31 I think it's funny that... About the same things over and over again. We joke that the Department of Defense is actually the Department of Offense. Nice. But then with the disinformation board, it's like, why would we assume they're stopping disinformation?
Starting point is 01:32:44 You know, if you go to an ice cream shop, are you assuming the guy who's there is trying to stop people from getting ice cream or he's trying to give the ice cream out? So what are they going to do? Yeah. Good point. Andrew Petra says, if you haven't watched the Army's new recruiting video for its psychological operations career field, you need to. Really weird and creepy stuff. Ooh, someone pull that up. Did it say you have to have two moms?
Starting point is 01:33:06 Yeah. That was the Navy, right? No, that was the Army. Oh, that was the Army. Yeah. That was the Army. And you had to be neurodivergent. So the Army had the ad about two moms.
Starting point is 01:33:16 And, you know, we all talk about it. And Russia started shaking in their boots and so did China when they saw it. Some people told me that the Army is very administrative. So that's what they were targeting, you targeting, people to work and file paperwork. The ad for the Marines was a guy who was in a swamp with a rifle going through the trees or whatever. All right, let's grab some more. Seriously, JK says, last night's James O'Keefe undercover running gag was quite possibly the funniest string of jokes and ideas I've seen in a long time. Thanks, guys.
Starting point is 01:33:45 And we're going to do it. We came up with a really funny one afterwards that was Jamie being scared of getting cancelled. We can't spoil the whole thing. Should we spoil it? No, no, no. We're going to make it. They've got to see it. Yeah, the ending was brilliant. It was a really good one. I won't spoil it.
Starting point is 01:34:00 I won't spoil it. Alright. Thomas just says, yeah, Tim and crew. Alright. Very All right. Thomas just says, yeah, Tim and crew. All right. Very cool. Cole Kirkman says, I'm sorry, Kirkham. Tim, I just traveled from Houston to Altoona. I'm a traveling tower climber.
Starting point is 01:34:14 I'm up here for work. I'd love to meet up with someone about possibilities on joining the team. I don't know what we have right now, especially for a tower climber. Good, sir. We are looking for journalists. That's so hard to find. Writers, specifically. People who write?
Starting point is 01:34:32 Difficult. Everybody's getting poached up and whatever. Yeah, it's hard to find writers. Alright, there are a lot of super chats directed at Libby. They're saying that Libby is a good mother. Oh my god I knew I shouldn't have worn this dress
Starting point is 01:34:47 we'll just leave it there I even asked Lydia before we went on I was like I don't know about this dress they're all just saying you're a great mother that's right that's very kind JH says I'm late to the party on this one but everyone needs to watch the creepy lawn on prime video
Starting point is 01:35:03 very interesting documentary from 2018 on election manipulation via big tech. Was it the Democrat one? I don't know. Remember the Democrats put together something? They were like really concerned about voter manipulation through voting machines back in 2018. Oh, that sounds right. Yeah. Something like that.
Starting point is 01:35:18 Yeah. That sounds right. Okay. Smedley Butler III says, Inflation is an increase of the currency supply devaluing the currency's purchasing power
Starting point is 01:35:29 which raises prices the one and only culprit behind this is a printing machine and its family owners oh man the chat is going off what is everyone saying
Starting point is 01:35:41 they're just saying good mother Libby oh my god yeah it's very complimentary look at my sweater. There's a lot of Super Chats. Thanks, Libby. No, I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 01:35:52 Oh, my God. Some of these Super Chats are inappropriate. Some of them aren't. Come on, chat. Get it together. You guys made Libby put on a shirt. So we got some big super jets. I'm not going to read that.
Starting point is 01:36:07 It's my own fault for buying a new dress and thinking I should wear it in public. Michael Tufts says, Seamus, please shame everyone in the chat. Seamus, get on it. For shame. For shame. Here's one.
Starting point is 01:36:19 Stronger says, Libby is looking very pretty tonight. Seamus is okay. Oh, wow. I'm glad someone thought I looked nice. I like the purple shirt. Thank you very much. I don't need to do laundry. Matthew
Starting point is 01:36:31 Reckham says, Kamala is an android that runs on a predictive text AI. Changed my mind. I know. It's really funny. Did you ever do one of those tweets where you just press the middle predictive text and then just put it out there? You read that and you're like, that does sound like a common speech. Did you see her thing about working together?
Starting point is 01:36:50 No, it wasn't. Okay, I'm going to find it. You can keep going. I'm going to find it. There was, and I want to mention about Democrats, there was a poll from The Economist. It was a YouGov poll in The Economist that said, and this was in 2016, that around 50% of Democrats agreed that Russia tampered with vote tallies in order to get Donald Trump elected president.
Starting point is 01:37:16 Wait, what? Yeah, when you mentioned hacked voting machines, I wanted to bring that up. Say it one more 50 so it's a yugo poll that said people believe 50 of democrats believed in 2016 that voting machines were actually hacked or that russia tampered with tallies in order to get trump elected there was a story i think it was newsweek that half the country believes half of the population of the country believes the country is being run by a secret organization they don't know. Like they don't know who it is. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:50 Not surprising. But I think the scarier thing is that half the people don't think that's true. No, because I think when you read that, your assumption is they believe in the Illuminati. When in reality, they're like, oh, there's probably like big pharmaceutical, big lobbyists who are doing things we don't know about and that's actually the reasonable position but it's
Starting point is 01:38:08 also what literally everyone argues right because the right will argue things about like there being a deep state or corporate america having too much control the left will argue similar things about corporate america used to argue uh similar things about the deep state and they'll also say things like well this x y z is a threat to democracy. The people aren't actually in control here. So I don't know why that's considered like an insane conspiracy theory. It's pretty mainstream to not think the government's yet truly being run fairly. We got a good one here. John Harrell says BlackRock Neurotech is making their own brain implant.
Starting point is 01:38:39 Maybe Musk is making his as an alternative to theirs. Look up the brain initiative. So when you have two billionaires or a massive multinational corporation and a billionaire both looking and saying, implant my thing into your brain. I'm the good guy.
Starting point is 01:38:52 What you're supposed to do is ask the other one, ask the other one what the other would say and then do the opposite. Do you guys know the riddle about there's two brothers and one always lies away?
Starting point is 01:39:05 It's like the doors, right? Right, you ask the other one and then do what the other one tells you to do. But I have the Kamala thing, if you want to see it. Oh yeah, what is it? How do I show it to you? Well, just read it. She said, we will work together and continue to work
Starting point is 01:39:23 together to address these issues, to tackle these challenges, and to work together as and continue to work together to address these issues to tackle these challenges and to work together as we continue to work operating from the new norms rules and agreements that we will convene to work together on she said that that's a predictive text AI
Starting point is 01:39:38 that's what she said it's like when it gets stuck in a loop and it keeps giving you the same word over and over again that's happened to me before what she said. It's like when it gets stuck in a loop and it keeps giving you the same word over and over again. You keep pushing the same button. Yeah. That's happened to me before. Yeah. Really?
Starting point is 01:39:48 Yeah. But she said it out loud. I mean, is someone like pressing predictive text in Kamala's brain? No, you don't understand. She's reading a teleprompter. The person writing the teleprompter has predictive text. They're using T9. I don't know what's going on with that, but.
Starting point is 01:40:02 There's like. She actually said that. Everything she says makes no sense at all. And the fact like the only thing that is keeping people from trying to get Biden out of office is knowing that we would get her instead. You'll get like a productive, predictive text loop where you'll write. I went to the movies and what will come up. It'll say and and you'll hit it. And then I went to the movies and then i went to the movies
Starting point is 01:40:26 and then that's a kamala harris speech that's how she writes her speeches she's like hi everybody so i went to my family's house and then i went to the movies and then i went to the movies and then i went to the movies and at the movies i watched the movies yeah i watched a movie at the film there was a screen there was a film screen. There was a screen. There was a big screen. And there was a small chair. And we sat in the small chair and watched the big screen. That's right. We didn't sit in the same chair.
Starting point is 01:40:52 We sat in separate chairs. Have you seen the family where Lois Griffin is doing the political debate? Oh, my gosh. No. And they're like, how would you deal with the growing financial crisis? And she goes, 9-11. And they go, whoo. That's right.
Starting point is 01:41:04 And then they ask her another question. And she goes goes 9-11 and they go and then you know they ask her another question she goes 9 that's right 11 they're all screaming so good that's maybe maybe she knows something we don't know maybe or what if maybe she knows 9-11 what if it's like uh half the country's been taken over by robots and the robots are speaking clearly to each other and we are laughing at them thinking we're so smart and they're taking over smart enough what was that you know that put on the glasses put on the glasses man they live yeah yeah they're all james o'keefe yeah we have since someone chatted that in last night yeah yeah yeah doing a spoof where it's a guy he puts his glass on then he can see all the james james i just i don't know if it's a guy, he puts his glasses on, and then he can see all the James O'Keefe's everywhere. They're everywhere.
Starting point is 01:41:57 I just – I don't know if it's a good or bad thing that people are going to – like, if every person at every tech company now thinks they could be getting hit by James O'Keefe, imagine the relationship problems they're going to have. There's going to be an engineer at YouTube who meets, like, this amazing woman, and they're going to have all the same interests, and he's going to be like, It's James O'Keefe! That's amazing. And she's going to be like, I'm not! I'm not! And he's going to be like, I don't believe you!
Starting point is 01:42:13 No, everyone should have background checks for every date that they have. But seriously, though, imagine that. Imagine in real life a guy meets this beautiful woman organically, and he just gets terrified, and they stop answering the phone and then she calls one day and she's like you stopped answering the phone he's like you're james o'keefe and like hangs up and she's like that was weird well or maybe these people when they go out on dates
Starting point is 01:42:34 should not be trying to impress their prospective mates with spilling their guts on coming yeah i know it's our first date but let me tell you about corporate malfeasance i mean stop breaking your nda just because you're trying to get laid like come on it's insane also but like the things they are spilling aren't even things that would impress a date like i only work four hours a quarter what you're telling her you're lazy why would you say that on a first date some of the questions are a little bit obvious too like when they keep probing like i think there was one person who she was like yeah what do you do you think of Project Veritas, by the way? And this guy was just completely clueless. She's like, can I get that in writing?
Starting point is 01:43:11 Yeah, yeah. No, well, the funniest part. When the guy said Veritas. Yes, exactly. The Project Veritas employee goes, he gives them info about, the person being set up gives them info about Project Veritas that's on their phone. They're reading a corporate email. And the Project Veritas reporter goes, Project Veritas? I was like, how obvious?
Starting point is 01:43:31 How obvious are you going to make it? Like, this is a cartoon. Remember when Homer tried getting Mr. Burns' mail? And he's like, hello, my name is Mr. Burns. Okay, Mr. Burns, is that your first name? I don't know. That's what it was like. I will say this about the Veritas videos, Mr. Burns, is your first name? I don't know. That's what it was like. I will say this about the Veritas
Starting point is 01:43:47 videos, though. They do leave me wanting a little... I know they heavily edit a lot of their dates, but I want to see the full dates with these guys. Oh, the whole thing? I want to see when they look into their eyes. I want to see the very pretty Project Veritas girl that they definitely hired with the creepy looking... Oh, but you can't show her.
Starting point is 01:44:03 Well, I'm assuming they can only do one gig. No, because they have to do more than one gig. No, that would be dangerous. Yeah, but they totally can. They just don't release the footage. But then doesn't the guy know about the girl? Yeah, but not before. The guy's looking at her face.
Starting point is 01:44:17 Yeah, but he's going to try to reverse out her. I bet the guy's not looking at her face. The girls will do multiple stings, and then they release the footage. Yeah. Let's read some more. We got Bogdanoff says, Tim, what happened to your members-only comment section on your website? Why can't we comment anymore on your videos? We will reveal more information in due time.
Starting point is 01:44:37 We have to do some infrastructure work for comments. So we've got an announcement coming. I can't say too much, but when we switched over to Rumble, a lot of things had to change. We've got to build stuff. That's the easiest way to put it, but we're going to be implementing a bunch of infrastructure changes to avoid to become more resilient against censorship.
Starting point is 01:44:56 Wouldn't it be funny? I was just sick of what you guys had to say. I was tired of arguing. No, no, we want comments. We're thinking of a bunch of ways we can do it, and we'll get it sorted. Okay, Joseph says, I just put in an offer for a home on two acres in Minnesota for $200,000. The home was built in 73. The deal is expensive and hard to find near jobs.
Starting point is 01:45:18 But, you know, good going. Congratulations. That sounds really cool, yeah. Get some chickens. Nice. Goats, yeah. Chickens and goats. And they'll hang out together. And sometimes it's funny, the chicken will
Starting point is 01:45:27 ride the goat. No way. Really? That happens? Do you have goats? We don't, no. We're going to. Wait a minute. What's the channel? What are you going to... What's going to be the project with the goats riding chickens? Are we going to get to see that? Well, it'll probably just be Chicken City. Chicken City with
Starting point is 01:45:44 goats. Oh, that's cool. That's nice. Goat township. Well, so long as the chickens outnumbers the goats, it's going to get to see that? Well, it'll probably just be Chicken City. Chicken City with goats. Oh, that's cool. That's nice. Goat township. Well, so long as the chickens outnumbers the goats, it's going to stay Chicken City. So if they get enough goats, and then they're going to demographically. But also, you already have the brand name. I don't know if this is a replacement theory. It's a Chicken City edition of a replacement theory.
Starting point is 01:45:59 The chickens start getting freaking out. The chickens are like, why are our eggs going to the goats? I don't understand why they're sending the eggs away. The leghorns get really worried about it. And then you're going to have some great cheese, too. Who are you going to have come in to make some cheese? The leghorn joke worked really well for people who know chickens, but for those that don't, they're all white chickens. Okay.
Starting point is 01:46:16 I see. Yeah, that makes sense. And then we have the red on the reds are brown and white. So let's read some more super chats. Alexander Harold says, first SC ever. Kill someone in self-defense. You have to prove self-defense. like you know brown and white so let's read some more super chats alexander harold says first sc ever kill someone in self-defense you have to prove self-defense so burden of proof for abortion health and rape would require investigation similar to self-defense thoughts four-year fan that's uh that's actually interesting if uh if you were going to create an exemption for abortion
Starting point is 01:46:41 in the case of rape there would have to be an investigation. And they would have to be able to, like, prove it, I guess. But the left would never stand for that. I mean, firstly, they would never want to limit the number of abortions ever. But then I think their argument would be like, no, you never investigate into it, because that would allow them a loophole for basically anyone to still be able to get an abortion so long as they said they were. I think some of the most successful movements in the country are always trying to, you know, they try to morph and live up
Starting point is 01:47:05 to the ideals of the constitution so i think you know the civil rights movement did this where they they were arguing that all men the declaration of independence said that all men are created equal bestowed with unalienable rights by their creator so like you know i think a pro-lifers it would behoove them to make a similar type of argument what do you mean that like babies have certain unalienable rights and we do live live up to the values that are said in our constitution and then if we want to change that well we need amendments to do that so well if you kill a pregnant woman and you kill her baby do you get charged extra i don't think i think sometimes you
Starting point is 01:47:37 do homicide yeah it's a double homicide scott peterson right i guess yeah lacey peterson well he killed his wife and baby, right? She was pregnant, if I'm not mistaken. But it depends on the state. Does it depend on how far, too? Probably a little bit. Probably, yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:47:54 Burt, USA. Hold on. Scott Peterson was convicted of killing his pregnant wife and their unborn baby. How far in? What state, though? What state? Wasn't it Massachusetts? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:48:03 Tell me it was a blue state. It was a blue state. It was a blue state. That'll be interesting. It was either Massachusetts or California. Tell me it was before the heartbeat. She was pretty pregnant. There was a case like that in Massachusetts, too, where the guy said that it was a black guy who came and, like, carjacked them and killed his wife.
Starting point is 01:48:21 So it was, on top of everything else, it was, like, super racist. All right, while Seamus figures that out we got burt usa florbo says new case of monkey pox spotted in massachusetts the dude got it when in canada a little too close to the abominable snowman if you ask me conspiracy i think not monkey box what if there's a monkey box pandemic what is monkey it's a disease. You get it. Sam says, innovation competence is like other traits. It operates on a bell curve. While percentage stays the same,
Starting point is 01:48:50 real numbers change and the far ends push out as numbers increase. So the highest potential ability increases with larger population. For example, the top 1% in 100 versus 100K.
Starting point is 01:49:01 That's a really, really good point. When you have hundreds of millions of people, the, really good point. When you have hundreds of millions of people, the bell curve will get wider because you have a higher chance of anomaly. So, actually, that's an interesting way to think about it. If there's a one in a million athlete, but you only have 100 people, you're not going to see that
Starting point is 01:49:18 amazing athlete. If a million people, you'll have one at the far end. So the bell curve actually will become wider. Ty Johnson says people want to be younger today because they were trapped inside afraid of the outside as children due to tech and the parents wanting safety over childhood is that what it was don't know uh the peterson case was in california was it wow so in a one of the most isn't california like very pro-? Super pro abortion. They're so pro abortion that they don't even track how many abortions are performed in the state. It's Schrodinger's child where it only counts if you want it to.
Starting point is 01:49:57 And when it's not advantageous, it just doesn't count. I was looking at this recently and there are a number of states that don't report or record or keep data on how many, on the racial breakdown of abortions. So I'm pro-choice, but one of the most eye-opening statistics that I heard that was for many years in New York City, there were more black children aborted than were birthed. And it just sounds so outrageous. Exactly. It sounds that outrageous where you're just like, wait a minute. I don't know if it was every year, but it was for some of the years.
Starting point is 01:50:26 And to even have gotten close is kind of a crazy thing to conceptually. Yeah. Wow. Margaret Sanger's dream come true. That's crazy. Yeah, it was. It was actually a lot. It was a lot of abortions performed in New York.
Starting point is 01:50:39 It was like New York and Florida were at the top of abortions. Yeah. All right. We got Josh says, hope you guys are planning on doing another drinking game next time. Biden at the top of abortions. Yeah. All right. We got Josh says, hope you guys are planning on doing another drinking game next time. Biden has a State of the Union. That show was one of the best TimCast fam. You know what we need to do?
Starting point is 01:50:54 We need to do, it doesn't need to be the State of the Union. We should definitely do for any, you know, big event or something. We got to bring Jamie back, Kilstein and Lauren Southern. Yes. And then Lauren can have more of the pappy in her paper cup. But that was hilarious. The show with Jamie was
Starting point is 01:51:10 absolutely hilarious. And so we'll just it'll be two hours of just laughing nonstop. And then everyone will have to go to the hospital from ruptured guts. He brought a really good energy. Yeah, it was fun. Really fun. And Lauren did. When she poured the $1,000 whiskey in her paper cup and drank it a lot. Wild. It was very funny. Very funny And Lauren did, you know, when she poured the $1,000 whiskey in her paper cup and, you know, drank it a lot.
Starting point is 01:51:25 Wild. It was very funny, very funny. We enjoyed it very much. Tim, you promised me you'd never invite her back. Oh, she'll be back soon. Bailey Ray says, IMO, Silverman spoke up because skaters aren't in a bubble within their sport. They grew up in skate parks in the streets. Most parks have all walks of life.
Starting point is 01:51:44 Skating will set you free. I agree with this. There are a lot of people who skate who are conservative. They just want to admit it. And that's the problem. Conservatives. Why are you so cowardly? Yeah, if everyone just spoke up and spoke their mind, there wouldn't be any of this cancellation backlash nonsense.
Starting point is 01:52:01 That's right. Yeah. I think the coalition is more of an anti-left than conservative. Yes. The anti-left, and when I say anti-left, I'm going to talk about two specific issues. It's that men can become women and women can become men. It's kind of this gender ideology issue.
Starting point is 01:52:16 And then it's also the defund the police stuff. Those are sort of one of their two big things on the left. I haven't heard a lot about that lately. I haven't heard a lot about the defund the police. Yeah, well, like a year ago. So you think it's going to come back? Let's not forget. BLM is not as popular.
Starting point is 01:52:29 It's because BLM isn't as popular and defund the police polled horribly. And the Joe Biden administration, as well as Democrats, know that now after trialing it. So they have to run away from it more. But there's still the ideologues in the party who do believe that. Well, and BLM turned out to be a whole bunch of grifters. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So that's still kind of an issue. I'm going to give a wag of the finger
Starting point is 01:52:49 to Fox News because they are really misrepresenting the latest scandal. So they keep saying that Patrice Cullors paid her baby's father and her brother $970,000 and $840,000. Let me clarify that because I feel that's very misleading
Starting point is 01:53:05 there's an LLC that does an LLC run by her baby's father does live production and her brother runs a security company now by all means I think hiring your friends and family to do the jobs is a conflict of interest when you have all this money but the idea that that money
Starting point is 01:53:23 was compensation versus cost, that's what happens when Fox News says she paid her brother. It's like, no, no, no, no. Look, if her brother was doing security at this company, how many security guards did she hire? How much money did she really get? So maybe what really happened is she paid her brother $100,000, which is still like
Starting point is 01:53:40 should a non-profit be hiring all of their friends and family? The live production thing, the one question I had was, they spent $150,000 on a live stream. And I'm like, okay, now we're asking some questions. But Fox is making it seem like she's just giving the money straight to her brother
Starting point is 01:53:54 to do whatever he wants with. So he's getting a lot. The other thing, too, is if she was receiving more than $100,000, they would have to disclose that on the 990s. They did not, because she probably wasn't. It doesn't mean she's not getting paid in other ways though so she also said that those 990s were triggering to have to fill them out right that was funny oh no people are gonna find out yeah i have to do accounting all right rajesh says my humble so oh she also said that she was a she
Starting point is 01:54:18 was flush with white guilt money right yeah yeah my i mean, that's, she's right. Of course she was. I don't think that's a problem to say that. She is completely accurate. All right. Rajesh says, my humble submission to the panel to reprioritize issues. First, dying microbes in soil leading to starvation in future. Hashtag save soil. Second, climate change real or not, we need best practices to preserve life on this planet.
Starting point is 01:54:45 Millionth priority feminine men trying to get attention. I agree with the more responsible practices when it comes to maintaining the environment and all that stuff. My attitude is kind of like, I can't stand the Green New Deal because AOC was just like equity and social justice. And when I brought that up to Matt, he's like, that's where it starts. That's the important thing to deal with the Green New Deal is minorities. And I was like, what does that have to do with wind turbines, dude? I want energy sources that don't generate carbon, like nuclear power. An amazing return on energy investment.
Starting point is 01:55:22 Energy return on energy invested. And no carbon emissions. We're all happy, right? No, they don't want that either. on energy invested, and no carbon emissions. We're all happy, right? No, they don't want that either. Yeah. Also, I'll say this. We absolutely need to have a coherent understanding of sex in order for society to function because the family is the building block of society, and sex is what creates families. And if we don't have a functioning society, we can't hope to solve any of the problems he's pointing out.
Starting point is 01:55:43 So these issues are genuinely important. But Google has announced that they're very close to creating an AI with human intelligence. So perhaps we can just build people. Quickly on the climate change issue. That's going to go great. I believe in anthropomorphic climate change. That is to say that the humans are having some influence on the climate. But I also believe that we are scientific creatures and our continued understanding and new discoveries that we will run into is what's going to help us steer our way out of this. My issue with the Green New Deal is that it doesn't try to solve, reduce carbon emissions.
Starting point is 01:56:15 I don't think it tries to do any of that. It just tries to overthrow, quote unquote, capitalism and our current system. That is the goal of the Green New Deal. It's not to reduce emissions. It's to try to force our way to use renewables that won't work well in our system and then also like fund questionable things because again we paid like billions of dollars for these solar panels in china that never panned out now that we're just overlooking these costs so the issue with the green new deal is that it's more about communism really and socialism because that's what happens at these events than actually trying to make a difference for the environment.
Starting point is 01:56:46 Right now there's like an island of plastic the size of Texas or even larger right now. The North Pacific garbage gyre. So that is something that I'm genuinely concerned about. I studied biology. I care a lot about the environment. I've never heard anybody talk about how we're trying to deal with that, and that's something more tangible than just climate change. I will say that I was with a theater company for a while,
Starting point is 01:57:08 and we worked for a very long time on an art project that was about ocean pollution, ocean acidification, and the North Pacific garbage dire. That's why I know all about it. I do have a solution, though. I've thought a lot about this. So hear me out. What if we gave free health care to marginalized people why don't
Starting point is 01:57:27 actually would make the environment worse because you'll produce more refuse like more more medical waste what we really need to do is we need to pursue more nuclear energy medicare the reason medicare for all won't ever happen is because the democrats will insist to give um make abortions included in health care and also insist that all illegal immigrants also get health care that's why this issue i don't think will ever move forward i know that's a huge conversation i think it won't move forward because they want to keep uh using it as an issue that will never move forward well just what we'll do geostationary orbital nuclear power stations that transmit energy wirelessly down to the surface.
Starting point is 01:58:09 How can you, like lightning? No, no, no. An electromagnetic large. Is that a thing? I don't even know how that works. Or laser or something. Yeah, there you go. Boom.
Starting point is 01:58:18 Problem solved. I'm with it. Then when it melts down, it just blows up in outer space. And they keep taking nuclear power plants offline. I got it. Guys, a Dyson sphere around the sun. You know, I speak to a lot of Green New Deal people, and they'll tell me they're anti-nuclear openly.
Starting point is 01:58:34 No, of course they're anti-nuclear, because the boomers have convinced everyone that nuclear is going to kill everyone, and it's not. Well, they're not really there to solve the problem, I think, is the literature. I think that's exactly correct. I've got one. Instead of a Dyson sphere, we'll put a Tyson sphere around the sun.
Starting point is 01:58:46 A Tyson sphere, like Neil deGrasse Tyson, it just pedantically corrects you about things. I thought you meant like Tyson chicken, and then we just get a lot of chicken. It's like the sun powers it. It'll cook chicken really fast. We'll just read a couple more here. Ants Honey says,
Starting point is 01:59:03 You can't fool me, James O'Keefe. What have you done with Libby? I admit it. It's me. I'm about to break out in song. We need to have James on at one point to just have that happen with, like, Lauren will be here.
Starting point is 01:59:14 And then while we're talking, we're like, wait a minute. That's not Lauren Southern. And then we'll have James jump in and say, That would be brilliant. James in a wig, like, jumps in. Poorly disguised as Lauren. It was James the whole time.
Starting point is 01:59:24 There's a funny meme that uh uh shamus uh you tweeted and i saw it someone a wolf's bane 1104 made it and it's the uh the crazy hot axis have you ever seen that oh yeah yeah where it's like you know a woman who's like really crazy and kind of hot you stay away from like a woman who's like hot not that crazy you marry and then normally it says not crazy and totally hot. Unicorns don't exist. He changed it. It says James O'Keefe. James O'Keefe. That's correct.
Starting point is 01:59:53 All right. Let's see. Zach Snow says, I love this show, but I'm hating the chat tonight. Libby, love seeing you on the show, but you're killing the chat section tonight. It's not me, you guys. Why are you blaming me? I haven't even been in the chat. That's not me, you guys. Why are you blaming me? I haven't even been in the chat.
Starting point is 02:00:07 That's right. She has not. I've been over here in this chair. She's been very focused. With King Kong. Mm-hmm. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 02:00:15 We'll grab one more. Dorktanian says, I will run the nightly Timcast IRL drinking show judging which tropes are shots, drinks, and flubs. It was flib, right? It was flib florbs when it went i made up a word for women you should say florbs again that was really funny good yeah so who was it they were like what word should we use for a woman then yeah not women i was like flib yeah yeah flibs i like florbs yeah florbo yeah
Starting point is 02:00:43 yeah well florbo is neutral yeah oh i see that's gender neutral neutral is yeah so my my point was that if someone tells me i have to use their pronouns i'll say i won't use the pronouns that um if you're like hey don't use he he or him use this or that i'll say i won't use the pronouns you want but i'll use totally different ones you don't expect florbo okay florbo yeah florbo, you know. And then it's like, but it's nice. It's like Florbo. It sounds like a marshmallow.
Starting point is 02:01:09 It's kind of fun to say. Right. Which I think should count for words. It was meant to be like the beanbag of words. Right. So it's soft. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:14 And you're okay. But they don't get to tell me what I say. It reminds me of like a, you remember Flobie? Remember that? Flobie? Do you remember this?
Starting point is 02:01:21 Is that what it was called? Flobie? And it was like a vacuum haircutting tool? Yeah, it sounds like it. Oh. Yeah. Well, it reminds me of, if you have not already, would you kindly smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share
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Starting point is 02:01:47 on Twitter and Instagram at TimCast. Libby, did you want to shout anything out? Yeah, so I'm at The Postmillennial. You can find us at ThePostmillennial.com and you can find me on Twitter at Libby Emmons. I'm Seamus Coghlan.
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