Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #533 - Biden Ministry Of Truth IS DONE, Director QUITS w/Libby Emmons & Elad Eliahu
Episode Date: May 19, 2022Tim, Seamus of FreedomToons, and Lydia host journalists Libby Emmons & Elad Eliahu to discuss the collapse of Biden's 'Disinformation board', the Washington Posts' take that the right wing is responsi...ble for the downfall of the Disinformation Board, the surprising revelation that half of Joe Biden's followers might be fake, the female skateboarder calling out trans skating competitors, and how the US soccer league is trying foolishly to achieve equity between the genders. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Joe Biden's disinformation board is done.
It has been suspended.
And Nina Jankiewicz, the director of this program, has resigned in shame.
The amazing thing is the news breaks through Taylor Lorenz, who writes an opinion piece about it,
blaming, who was it, Jack Posobiec and the post-millennial Libby?
Your fault?
Yeah, it's entirely our fault.
Your fault.
We take the credit, y'all.
All right.
We got a bunch of other
stories though uh half of uh joe biden's followers are fake according to an audit
elon musk is confirming yes in fact he will be voting republican twitter says they're going to
force him to buy twitter and they say they axio says they turn they turn the table on him and i'm
like they didn't want to sell to him in the first place and now they're demanding it i think elon has won this one we've got a couple other interesting stories there was
a news that broke of a female skateboarder who lost she won second place but she was knocked down
because of a male athlete a trans woman who competed and she made a post about an instagram
that's going viral.
So we'll discuss that, too.
Skateboarding, of course, is near and dear to my heart.
I know a lot about this and a lot about the physics involved, which matters when it comes
to the differences between males and females.
But then we also have the U.S. soccer.
The men and women are going to share the World Cup prizes.
Yeah, that doesn't seem reasonable at all.
That seems weird.
Yes.
But we'll talk about it.
And obviously, Libby's here.
Here I am. Who are you? I'm here. I'm Libby
Emmons. I'm the editor-in-chief with the Post Millennial.
Glad to be here. Right on.
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Let's jump into the first big news from Tim guest dot com. Biden admin has suspended the
disinformation governance board. The board's executive director, Nina Jankowicz, announced
her departure from the Department of Homeland Security. So just right off the bat, it was a terrible idea.
I don't think he's doing this because of free speech. I think it's polling poorly among Democrats.
Bill Maher came out on his show and said, these are not bright people in government.
So when you get Bill Maher on his show to a million liberals saying this is bad,
don't be surprised then when they're like, oh, we got a midterm coming up and we're losing.
Well, wait, I mean, how do we know this is true or not if Biden suspended the disinformation board?
We do know it. In fact, there was a question about it today in the White House press conference with the new press secretary,
Corinne Jean-Pierre. Peter Doocy asked if perhaps the disinformation governance board was suspended due to disinformation.
There we go. And without a governance board, how would we know?
Jean-Pierre basically confirmed that, yes, there was misinformation surrounding the disinformation
governance board that a lot of people had slammed it.
It's the perfect crime.
It's the perfect crime, yeah, that a lot of people had slammed it.
It was actually pretty amazing to see this come down today. That's misinformation. I don't believe it. No, I mean it seriously, that they were like,
oh, you know, people were spreading lies about it. So we had to shut it down. No, no, no, no, no.
No, it was it was obviously not lies. It was obvious that people were spreading truth about it.
In fact, the head of the Ministry of Truth, the Minister of Truth, Nina Jankowicz,
had spread substantial amounts of
misinformation all by herself on her own feeds. And it was spectacular because as soon as she
was announced, as soon as she came out on Twitter and announced that this is what she'd been working
on for the last seven months, Jack Posobiec went out there and just started pulling all of her old
tweets and all of her old things where she was talking about Russia collusion and all of these
things, COVID things. And she was talking about Russia collusion and all of these things,
COVID things. And she was like just spreading misinformation and disinformation all over the place.
You know what?
I really hope her and James Lindsay end up in a musical together.
Yes.
Did you guys see her singing?
Okay.
People are like making fun of her.
I was like, dude, make fun of her for the misinformation.
Don't make fun of her for singing.
Well, the political singing was real cringe.
When she did the Mary Poppins political thing, I was like, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on.
What are we doing here?
I don't know.
Convince me.
But the actual, you know, she got ragged on by the caller.
I defended her.
When she was doing that, what do I got to do to be famous bit?
I'm like, yeah, it was good.
Ian, I said, I thought her singing was good because it's not political.
She was just doing a bit and she was like, I want to be famous.
And then Ian was like, no, she's got her shoulders up and tight.
She's not singing from the chest. she doesn't know what she's doing and
i'm like which is hilarious because like usually ian goes easier on people even when they say
things politically that we very much disagree with but she's singing wrong he's like no this
is absolutely not like we cannot he took theater yeah exactly he was like i am offended by this
like that's his area i studied theater for pretty much my entire life and i actually thought that
it was kind of cute that she was into doing performance art, even though she had this weird government career.
I didn't have an issue with that singing.
I did have an issue with her COVID misinformation Mary Poppins song.
I thought that was total trash.
It's weird how when we were young, the adults who were writing books about this stuff, when we weren't even alive, the books that were coming out were like, the future dystopia.
Men have steel jaws from the war and metal limbs and cyborgs rule all.
And the government comes and bangs a giant sword in the ground.
Do as you're told.
And what we really got was this permanent child who's singing Mary Poppins going we're gonna block your news
and it's like it's substantially
creepier you know
millennials aren't growing up no but
they don't want to and in part
millennials aren't growing up because adults have told
them that adulthood is bad we come
up with words like adulting as though there's some
problem with responsibility and it's
like just grow up be responsible why
it's not bad the thing
too is it's like when you were a kid remember when you were a kid and everyone wanted to grow up i
don't know if you guys had that and people were like oh i could buy all the toys i want i'll get
to eat all the candy that i want and it's like now we tell yeah you do get to do that i mean
it turns out you do like i buy ice cream and i put it in my fridge, in my freezer, and then we eat it. When I was like 20, I just one day was like, you know, what's one thing I always thought I would do and never did?
I'm going to go to the store and buy a whole thing of cookie dough and just walk around eating it.
Nice.
So I went to the grocery store.
I grabbed a thing of cookie dough.
I bought it, started eating it, and some little kid saw me.
And he went, as he walked, as I walked past him, he gets better.
And I'm like, I looked at him and I him, and I was like, that's right.
I bite it.
And then five minutes later, I went, oh.
I didn't see the aftermath.
This is why my parents said you don't do these things.
By the way, I meant James O'Keefe, not James Lindsay.
Oh, I was confused.
I'm so sorry.
No, no, no, not James.
That doesn't make any sense.
Unless you're talking about his sword movement.
Yeah, no, James Lindsay would never be in a musical.
No, maybe.
No, they wouldn't allow it.
That's funny because I pictured James O'Keefe when you said James Lindsay because I knew that he had done the thing.
That would be funny too
because
the left thinks James O'Keefe
is just like the king of disinformation
and manipulation and the right
calls Nina Jankowicz the minister of truth.
I think what we have right here
What we have is a Broadway show and Juliet with James O'Keefe and Nina Jankowicz.
What we have is a Broadway show.
What we need is investors.
That's all we need.
This would sell out.
How much do we need?
I'll fund it.
Right?
What do we need for a Broadway show?
Start with half a million, something like that?
Let's do it.
Sign it.
So here's my serious question, though, is when you look at the DHS Disinformation Board
and you look at Nina Jankowicz, they literally put a child in charge of the Department of Homeland Security.
And the issue is the adults, people who are more mature and more understanding, aren't in these jobs.
Well, what they did was they put a fool in charge of the Department of Homeland Security.
They put Mayorkas in charge.
And he came out shortly after Biden was inaugurated and said to immigrants all across the world, we're not saying don't come.
We're saying don't come now.
And then he proceeded to deny that repeatedly that he had said it.
And he did say it and he did mean it.
And that's that's why we have so many people storming the border.
Yeah, I got a good idea for a cartoon.
You could do Seamus.
Yeah, I actually is this about Biden saying come on.
OK, it is the disinformation board announcing they're shutting down and then all the journalists are like writing
it down and they're like breaking news and as they're doing it Nina Jankiewicz presses a button
and then the whole stage like goes down into a sub base where it's like they walk in the generals
like we've increased your funding by three billion dollars and so the whole thing was just
disinformation no they're going the misinformation misinformation boards going out of business all our misinformation has to go misinformation of
the dollar 20 percent of all misinformation that's clever i like that and then you highlight
janka wicks's uh tweets and the things she said oh my god it's funny because when she said that
thing about uh the laptop she's like joe biden says 50 different people said this was like it
was clearly disinformation or misinformation whichever whichever one you want to pick.
And she was like, I was just quoting the president.
It's like, OK, so by your standard, you are spreading disinformation.
Thank you. Did you correct it? No.
I mean, was that an excuse if Trump said something that was adjudicated to have been false by the fact checkers?
Could you say I was just repeating what the president said?
Well, not actually.
As you know, whenever Trump would make a claim and the media called him a liar he would just say well that would i that's what i was told
and the media would go oh we get it we'll retract that like trump we have to trump was in fact told
that he was that actually it's a funny thing what if a journalist you know donald trump said
uh you know this this will cost x amount of dollars and they're like how does that make
sense that's not true.
Well, that's what I was told.
So a journalist actually investigates, and they find the person who told Trump that.
And they're like, fact check true.
Donald Trump was told this.
It was corn pop.
They formed an alliance.
I'm trying to understand who this was originally angled to try to appeal to in the Biden administration.
Was it the MSNBC liberals?
I don't understand.
Do you think it was to appeal to anyone
or do you think it was just to try to shut people up?
Well, what they were actually trying to do,
if you look at what their documentation says
in the first place,
their goal was to dispel disinformation
outside of the U.S.
Oh, Russian disinfo, right?
No, like about immigration and stuff.
So months and months ago,
the White House press secretary, Jen Psaki,
had talked about how one of the Biden administration's plans
to get people to stop trying to come to the U.S. illegally
was to give proper information in those locales
to tell them, like, actually don't come.
So I think this was part of that effort.
That was sort of the idea. But there's
so little goodwill for the Biden administration at this point. They spread all kinds of ridiculous
misinformation and disinformation that coming out with something like this,
they had no chance. If they had come out and said, this is part of our plan to get immigrants to not come to the u.s we're
going to tell them not to come and gave it some sort of name like that it would have been much
better received uh i think because a lot of people would like there to be more security at the border
yeah well i mean their entire regime depends upon spreading misinformation right when they came out
and were saying things like the reason we have higher prices is because store owners are
greedy right and it's putin's fault that we have high gas prices i mean joe joe biden said
that to tackle inflation we're going to make the corporations or what do you say makes the rich
make the rich pay more taxes and then peter ducey was like how does making rich people pay more
taxes lower inflation well that counters all their arguments about how rich people they also
say rich people don't stimulate spending.
They just hoard all the money.
So by that logic, taxing them could never curb inflation.
My favorite is that Joe Biden launched his campaign off of misinformation.
And also they want to.
The Charlottesville stuff.
Yeah, he sure did.
And Rittenhouse and everything.
He lied about that.
Not to mention that he's run before Charlottesville ever happened.
He ran it five times.
Is that better?
He's lied all the time and he's plagiarized everything.
Yep.
And he's going to come out and be like, I'm going to tackle this information.
I came up with that.
And then you're like, there's a guy standing next to him who was like writing it down.
And he's like, I guess.
Yeah, it's pretty sad.
It's pathetic. It's just that this is a regime which repeatedly says things that are verifiably untrue. I mean, we're not just talking about a situation where someone might be using facts which are true to construct a narrative that we disagree with.
Like saying that businesses are raising their prices just because of corporate greed is an unbelievably insane and easily falsifiable thing to say.
Did businesses just get greedy after we flooded the economy with extra money
yes oh okay well never mind i've been fact checked they're all greedy yeah they're super greedy
that's why they're that's why they're trying so hard to hire people yeah well and that's and
offering all of these signing bonuses to do so and what's fascinating to me is like they just
became greedy after a bunch of money was injected into the economy like that's when they decided to
become greedy and raise prices.
Interesting.
Also, it's interesting that the Biden administration is currently looking to reduce sanctions on
Venezuela in order to gain oil exports from that country, as though Venezuela is some
perfectly fine place.
Like, why did we have sanctions?
They haven't made any changes.
It's sad that we want their
stuff yeah and same with saudi arabia if it was donald trump i think we would have been able to
get something out of the saudis but might be a whole nother conversation yeah let's talk about
taylor lorenz so we got the story from the washington post how the biden administration
let right-wing attacks derail its disinformation efforts i don't't understand why the Washington Post doesn't label this stuff opinion.
And I don't understand why NewsGuard gives them a 100 out of 100 when they don't label opinion.
In it, she says right here that disinformation has emerged as an urgent and important issue.
Important to whom?
That's your opinion.
Hey, why don't you put an opinion on this?
People see this stuff and they think it's facts.
It is not.
It is Taylor Loren's opinion on what happened.
So anyway, in the article, she falsely claims it was right wing disinformation that derailed
it when Bill Maher on his show came out and said, this is ridiculous.
These are not bright people.
What are they doing?
Bill Maher, one of the most prominent liberal voices, said this is bad, but it was all the right
wing. Now, you know what I'm offended by? She doesn't give Bill Maher any of the credit, and she
gives it all to you. Yeah, she gives it to the Postmillennial. That's not fair. She claims that the
Postmillennial was part of this campaign to take down the Disinformation Governance Board, and you
know, perhaps we were.
Perhaps we should take some credit for that.
Was she knocking on your door?
No, she wasn't, actually.
She's never reached out to us.
She blocked me on Twitter.
I found that out one time when I reached out to her for a comment about how she had doxxed libs of TikTok for no apparent reason.
And she blocked me on Twitter.
It was completely unreasonable.
All I did was put up a billboard in Times Square saying that she doxxed libs of TikTok, no apparent reason. And she blocked me on Twitter. It's completely unreasonable. All I did was put up a billboard in Times Square saying that she
doxed libs of TikTok and then she blocked me.
Seamus, are you blocked by Taylor Swift?
Let's see. I guess this is going to be like a test
of whether I'm like a real...
Are you blocked? I'm blocked. I don't know why I'm blocked.
Really? You are? Why did she block you?
Hold on. I think she might have blocked people
by like if you follow...
Yeah. Well, I'm on a lot of those.
What's interesting, though, is that she's
claiming that we dug up
Nina Jankowicz's
past social media posts
and published articles to generate
controversy. It was not to generate
controversy. It was to expose exactly
who was the minister of truth who was running
this bogus organization, who was running
this operation, to expose who it was that the Biden administration thought it was worthwhile to put in charge of
something this serious, someone who had spread disinformation themselves, someone who had,
you know, essentially called for censorship and someone who clearly should not be trusted to
give accurate or truthful information. It is extremely ironic because Jack Posobiec just found Cenkowicz's early tweets and released
them.
And it's ironic because that's the first thing Taylor Lorenz does when she tries to make
a hit piece on somebody.
They just look up their old tweets.
This is what Glenn Greenwald pointed out.
He said, according to Taylor Lorenz, you are not allowed to dig into the private information
of high ranking Homeland Security officials,
but it's okay to go after
an anonymous person
who has bad ideas.
Exactly.
When did the role of journalist
become being tattletales
on your average person?
Like, someone on Twitter
said something that I don't like.
Well, I'll tell you exactly
when that happened.
Almost always, hasn't it?
But like the average person?
I don't know.
It happened with me, too.
It happened with me, too.
Because that was the first time when it was acceptable to just start telling tales out of school about somebody's bad date.
I think I view journalists like mini-me.
Like Dr. Evil is the government and mini-me is just like, you know.
Well, I mean, you made this point that that's always what they've done.
I agree with you that it's always been very much corrupt.
I mean, the mainstream media in this country has been as it been a disaster for a lot longer than people
realize but it's the going after like everyday average random people thing which is is very
strange and yeah they're they're there are creepy weirdo authoritarians running all of most of our
institutions when you look at the uh supreme court leaks like these crackpots
these these people are in everything they they have no uh regard for um for tradition or culture
and i'm not saying all tradition all culture i'm saying they have no regard for community
they have no regard for any kind of norms respect they have I imagine
they have their moral compass
their
moral foundation
zero nothing they don't even have
care and fairness it's just literally nothing
they're just confused angry people
well they think that they're doing the right thing
I don't believe that you don't think that they think they're doing the right thing
I think they think that they're doing
the appropriate thing by leaking this that they think they're doing the right thing? I think they think that they're doing the appropriate thing by leaking this information.
I think they're NPCs.
You think Taylor Lorenz is an NPC?
Oh, no, no.
I think Taylor Lorenz is the perfect example of a modern shock jock.
I think, you know, based on conversations I've had with people in the industry,
it seems to me, it's my opinion,
that she was hired specifically
to generate outrage and controversy by writing
shock content that is bordering on defamation
the goal being
why are we talking about
the Washington Post now
because she writes something that's a clear opinion
not labeled as opinion knowing it'll anger
a lot of people
she accuses only the right, ignores Bill Maher
which will clearly,
the right will be like, hey, you can't say like, that's not true and you're wrong.
And then shows will produce segments where we'll talk about her. It will generate earned press, and that's what they want. So I've had some conversations. I'm trying to get better
confirmation. But my understanding is that the people at the Post are well aware of it,
that there are veteran
journalists who throw up in their mouths a little bit every day because they they're sickened by
what the paper has become because they know she was brought on specifically as a shock jock as a
culture warrior shock jock to generate scandal and that's her thing well and she does and then
she goes on tv and cries about it when people don't like what she writes for better or worse
i think reporting's always had this issue where people have been activists but the more i get involved and the more i pay attention
to the news the more i realize that it's almost everybody that's an activist reporter nowadays
it's fine it's hard to find anybody who isn't really just trying to back up their priors
this is extremely true with taylor ends but she's not the only one no definitely not definitely not
i mean i've probably brought him up a million times on this show,
but we talk a bit about Walter Durante every now and again.
I mean, this is very early stuff.
We're going back to, what, the 30s here,
and the fact that he was covering up the Soviet genocide
because he was himself a communist and won a Pulitzer for it.
And they're winning Pulitzers for fake news to this day.
I don't think they rescinded that Pulitzer.
They did not rescind the Pulitzer.
That's what it was, too.
They didn't rescind it either, which is insane.
We've talked about doing our own journalistic award ceremony to counter the pollsters.
The Timmies?
I would not call it that.
That's a terrible name.
Yeah.
But we would call it something.
Maybe like the Truth Award.
That's great branding.
Like, if you call your social network Truth Social.
Yeah, that's what Trump would call it. I don't think you should call it that no i think it's terrible idea a lot of people
he's actually trademarked the word truth yeah people someone pointed out i saw a tweet they're
like why didn't he call it kafifi like everybody would have been like download the kafifi app and
everybody would want it oh that's true trump's kafifi app and you need a weird name but it's
like truth and then you
like post truths i hate that i hate posting truth there's a disinformation you post anything that's
not true you're kicked off the website like that's it right i'm gonna retruth ah just no
terrible that actually sounds uh that sounds like something the disinformation governance board would
do they would retruth i think the uh the institutions are in decay i think that the culture war is split between those in the know and those who are not in the know.
It has nothing to do with your political positions because I think everyone here has varying political positions we all disagree with each other on.
Because we've had these conversations before to a great degree, including foreign war or abortion.
But we all agree on basically what's the fact. And so if that's what unites this table and the people watching, we are like, OK, what's true and what's not true?
What can be verified?
What's not verified?
And then the other side of the culture war are people who have no idea the Democrats tried to create, make a legal path towards third trimester or late-term abortions.
Well, they did.
It's right there in the woman's house.
But they didn't read the book.
I'm sorry.
They didn't read the bill.
Oh, it's right there.
I read the bill.
But that's exactly it.
So if I read the bill and I'm like, that's what it says, why does it say that?
And then we have a liberal progressive on the show who are like, no, no, no.
It's like, did you read the bill?
No.
You have to read the bill.
That was like the parental rights and education bill.
No one read that bill either.
And so you had a bunch of people coming out, including Mark Hamill, just being like, gay,
gay, gay.
And it's like, what are you talking about?
And it's like, no one is prohibited from saying that.
What are you talking about?
It's saying don't teach them about weird sex acts in school.
It literally, when they were all screaming gay over and over again, I'm like, imagine
being in a daycare and all the kids are yelling neater and neater and you're like, kids, be
quiet.
Kids, stop yelling that.
And they're all going neater and neater and they won't stop.
That's what it is.
Yes.
They're all yelling something and you're like, why are you yelling this?
Some kid goes, hey, if you yell neater and neater, they're going to get us ice cream.
So they all start screaming. You're like, I'm not going to do that. That's not children. Yes. They
don't know what they're talking about. They're too arrogant to actually read it. They believe
these psychotic ramblings of people like Taylor Lorenz. And then we have to deal with the problems
when they go and vote for nonsensical garbage. Yes. Like children suddenly believing that they are actually the opposite sex just because they came up with it randomly.
It's crazy because the truth here in these larger narratives almost doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter what the bill says as long as you're allowed to run on it and are able to run on it as like the don't say gay bill.
That's the only thing that people are going to really understand.
That was disinformation.
That was disinformation.
And it was repeated by the White House over and over again. It was repeated in the briefing room. You know, it's disinformation that Joe Biden says that the best course forward is gender affirmation, telling parents to affirm their children and it will save their lives. That's disinformation. This White House consistently spreads falsehoods and claims that it's true well how about how about we talk about those falsehoods we got this report from newsweek half of joe biden's twitter followers
are fake that's disinformation i believe people are going you're telling me he got 80 million
followers i believe this was true also we were looking at this today at post millennial uh i
think this was also true of just Trudeau's Twitter followers.
Most of them are.
What is this based off of?
Just so.
Well, there's an audit company.
It's called SparkTour.
It's based on Dinesh's documentary.
Because I'm really cynical about this stuff only because I know when you sign up to Twitter, you're going to get like three people.
It's going to be like Joe Biden, Elon Musk and like Jack or something.
And like, so I don't understand something. So I'd understand why.
So I'd like to look at – I don't know.
I'd like to understand the methodology a little bit, what's going on.
I don't know if they reveal their methodology.
And I think they said fake or spam accounts.
And I'm sorry.
That was Musk.
That was Musk.
Well, I guess they said there was like this tweet harvesting going on.
It's not clear how Musk arrived at the 20% figure.
He figured out a goal and changed a series of tweets. tweets anyway so there's a couple ways to do it i think elon may have made
a mistake when agrawal said it was less than five percent he said of daily active users
of their active users the fake accounts comprise of less than five percent elon musk based on this
said all users must be around 20 so there's difference. There are a lot of users that don't do anything. They're counting monthly or daily active users or whatever.
But I believe this is likely true because the at POTUS account, whenever a bot or a spam bot
will sign up, it's going to follow prominent accounts to try and look real. And of course,
it's going to follow the president. So that's like following a bunch of verified accounts.
And here's a big one. Well, isn it funny how like it's a bunch of accounts
with people who we know are not the actual person following an account that we know is not being
tweeted by the actual person either it's like joe biden's not running the twitter account the whole
thing is fake joe biden's not running the twitter account he's not running the country yeah exactly
well elon musk said it's whoever's controlling the teleprompter. But yeah, Donald Trump actually was tweeting.
There is no denying that.
Donald Trump was actually tweeting.
He could not hire a writer to write those things.
He was tweeting from the bathroom, Donald Trump, as president.
Isn't that how everybody tweets?
Can you imagine someone being like, I was Donald Trump's tweet writer, like putting that on your resume?
No, it was Trump.
There's no way anyone else said any of that.
Would you imagine the staffers outside the bathroom reading a tweet just being like he would watch fox news and then
he would tweet it right away and he'd be like tucker said this or did you hear about this
then he would go to rallies and he'd repeat it it was really obvious that he would just watch fox
and be like boom something happened i i kind of i liked it i mean oh yeah you know and and you know being a journalist
and seeing trump just tweet random things was really a lot of fun you could get like a whole
bunch of stories just i'm on it i was saying on twitter i was told by now we do it that it was
it was violence that every every day they had they were there were people journalists who were
assigned to like there were journalists at news organizations who were told your job is to
keep refreshing trump's twitter feed and then when he says something write it up oh my god and they
were saying it was violence his tweets they were saying that it was like stressful and that they
needed like you know health days that once once he lost the election they're like finally it's over
i'm sorry once he got banned. They were like,
I'm crying tears of joy.
I can go back to normal working now.
No more stress.
They were saying how they would get text messages at 2 in the morning
from their boss being like, Trump just tweeted, write it up.
And they'd be like, ah.
No, the world must be...
It's really not that bad.
I work from home. I live in New York City.
I have a job as a journalist.
Sometimes I have to write things at 2 a.m.
and it's like, it's totally fine.
I have no problem doing that.
As we saw with Twitter.
I mean, if I'm up.
The Twitter leaks from Veritas.
This guy said he worked, what, four hours in the last quarter?
Yeah.
That's right, he did.
They're children.
They don't want to work.
The craziest thing is,
I saw someone post something where they were like,
they said something about all of my friends who are going on vacation.
They're summer plans.
And I'm stuck here with the kids.
And I'm just like – I don't understand if he's – I don't know if he's complaining or if he's bragging.
I don't understand what he's trying to say. But the conversation was basically like the dinks, the the dual income no kids people were like going to travel and party and live in a good life
and it's like i don't you know what i don't get i'll i'll segue sort of why everybody wants to
be younger i don't get that either i'm it's like you i mean i don't want to be older either but i
don't want to be younger well i don't care either way it's like you live you grow you age and then
aging i think aging is going to be painful.
I'm not really quite looking forward to that.
It's better than the alternative.
Yes, it's better than the alternative.
A lot of really great people who came before us got old, and they died.
And I'm just like, why would I not want the human experience?
Yeah, that is part of it.
Wait, that sounds like a cope.
I'd want to live longer if I could.
If I could almost live forever. Yeah, because it almost sounds like a cope. I'd want to live longer if I could. I've had this, if I could almost live forever.
Yeah,
because it almost sounds like,
you say you don't want to live forever
because we don't have
the opportunity to
and I'm saying that
to make myself feel better about it.
You know what's funny is
I have this same debate
with my son who is 12
and we talk about
whether or not
you'd want to live forever
and I'm always like,
yeah,
you'd want to live forever.
That's amazing.
You know,
you could see everything.
You could see how the human story
comes to a final conclusion, like what really happens and he's he's like yeah but you'd have to watch all the people
that you love and care about die why would you want to do that mom yeah but that's that's not
the issue the issue is after you know a good 30 years you're like i understand humans
i don't think there's any you know i mean maybe maybe you'll watch i don't want to live forever
maybe you'll watch technology develop and then you'll get to the point where you can plug your brain
to the matrix or something but i'm just like i would i would rather and the human experience
is the human experience i don't understand why it's a bad thing that people want a bad thing
i mean it's just well i don't understand why it's something to be avoided i don't think i actually
avoid it either personally i look forward to being old but if if there were the opportunity to live
further no that would be cool did you ever see Johnny Knoxville
I'd like to live to be like 150
something like that
remember when Johnny Knoxville
dressed up like an old man
and just caused trouble
it's because people are like
he's an old guy
what are you going to do about it
you know
are you saying that's going to be you
as an old man
like Grandpa Simpson
yeah
not Grandpa Simpson
like Johnny Knoxville was doing
like he would walk in
he would just like grab a bunch of groceries
and just like walk away
but they're like
he's just an old guy.
He's confused.
That is what Grandpa Simpson does.
He says that they let you shoplift.
Oh, okay, okay.
Well, there you go.
Well, I wouldn't shoplift
but when you're old,
it's just like
you just go and do...
It's like you've got nothing left to lose.
The world's your oyster.
Go skydiving and you're like...
When you're like 90?
Yes.
You could run for president.
Why go skydiving? You could still be president. I think Bernie Sanders is're like 90? Yes. You could run for president while I go skydiving.
You could still be president.
I think Bernie Sanders is about to run again too.
Do you think he's going to run?
Yeah, I do.
I think Donald Trump was probably thinking that.
Talking about kids and stuff, I look forward to the summer because I have to travel a lot for work.
And I'm looking forward to the summer because I'm going to take my son with me to all of the places that I have to go.
And I'm stoked.
It's going to be awesome.
That sounds beautiful.
Right?
I'm really hoping I can find good hotels with nice pools.
This is what I'm hoping for for my summer.
How did we get into immortality from bots on Twitter?
Well, because robots never die.
Yeah, those bots are going to carry Joe Biden's wisdom into the future, Tim.
The person running Joe Biden's account is actually a bot. Elon doesn't audit okay that would not be surprising the person standing at the
podium is actually a bot if you look at the ridiculous things that his account tweets out
you know i read it would be really funny if just like one day when joe was like stuttering a guy
walked up with like a screwdriver and like bopped him on the arm and then like jiggled him and then
he was like oh the economy has been in dire straits for some time it's like no he would never admit that percussive
maintenance i think they call it no like he's malfunctioning sparks are coming up
yeah well biden thinks putin is running the country and that's why everything's going to
hell well i saw a conspiracy uh pyramid a while ago tim and i believe it had biden is a robot
has one of the conspiracy theories yeah actually, actually, let me double check.
Let me double check.
As Biden was a robot, that's like conspiracy theories are usually negative, right?
It's like a bad thing is happening.
If Biden was a robot, that's pretty good.
You know, it's like right now.
It wouldn't be such a bad robot.
He's not a bad robot.
I'm worried about Biden's capabilities to do the job.
And if it turned out he's actually a robot, I'd be like, oh, OK, you know, you know,
Biden's in poor health, but robots. All right. I think we should be concerned about Biden's ability to run the job and if it turned out he's actually a robot i'd be like oh okay you know you know biden's in in poor health but robots all right i think we should be concerned about biden's ability
to run the country oh one million percent we i mean i we should have been concerned during the
primaries we were we were it's really terrifying to see someone who is uh as dotty and confused
as this old man is actually try to lead the entire world, essentially. Isn't it wild?
Which is the job.
I mean, the fact that the Democratic Party even picked him, like they had other options.
They had other options.
They had.
They picked a man.
I don't know why they did.
Like, if the idea was that anyone could beat Trump, why not run Buttigieg?
Right.
It's like, nah.
Well, we have him now anyway.
He's out there fixing potholes.
What do you think about Elon?
He tweeted that he's officially running as a robot.
I'm sorry.
He's voting.
Yeah, calm down.
We need a disinformation board right now.
Hold on.
By the way, I have to say, so I pulled the conspiracy theory pyramid up again.
Yes, Biden is a robot is a conspiracy theory.
Not only that, but it is a theory that makes you a danger to yourself and others to believe.
So Elon Musk tweeted,
In the past I voted Democrat because they were mostly the kindness party,
but they have become the party of division and hate,
so I can no longer support them and will vote Republican.
Now watch their dirty tricks campaign against me unfold.
And he also then tweets,
Political attacks on me will escalate dramatically in coming months.
What do you guys think?
Does it matter?
Is it something we all have experienced ourselves and know already?
I think one thing that it shows is how far to the left the Republican Party has actually moved.
It's substantially to the left of what it used to be.
And you can tell because people like Elon Musk are going to vote republican after a lifetime of voting democrat i'm essentially a conservative because the democrats have gone so far to the
left and i stayed right here and the republicans came over and i was like oh hey fellas exactly
no it's true and i hear so many people say that the only time i've ever heard someone say something
along the lines of i'm on the left just because the Republican Party's gone so far right is when they're on corporate media and they're some rhino.
Right.
It's like, oh, no one in real life says that ever.
Because it's not true.
It's like some 60-year-old.
It's not true.
60-year-old millionaire warmonger who's like, I don't know.
I don't recognize my party anymore.
Yes.
The Democrats want to blow up kids in the Middle East, so I'm going to vote for them.
It's like, okay, that's why I won't.
That's why I won't. Yeah for them. It's like, okay, that's why I won't. That's why I won't.
Yeah.
Exactly.
It's the same.
I'm super conflicted on Elon Musk continuing to, like, evolve and put his hands more into politics because he's going to be another billionaire potentially funding candidates in the future.
He might be another Peter Thiel type figure in the future.
So it'll be interesting to see how he changes and develops.
But I am highly. I wonder why he would fund any politicians do you do we well because he's trying
to get involved in politics one way or another and like twitter was away president right um i think
he was born in south but it wouldn't be worth it for him to run he could just have his paws on
different elections and by funding people but what i was trying to get to in a full circle kind of
way is that he still has deep connections to china. He still has Tesla factories in China, and he will
still be at the whim of this government, the Chinese government, the communist Chinese government,
that is, if he does want to do any business there in the future, he needs to make sure he doesn't
step on any toes. I know we kind of overlooked that because Musk has become this sort of anti-left
figure. No, we don't overlook that. We talk about it all the time. That what?
That Elon Musk has praised China on more than one occasion.
He's got factories in China.
Sure, but he's kind of become a hero in some online anti-left circles because he is a big voice willing to come out against these people.
And it seems as though all you have to do nowadays to get a lot of fans on Twitter
is say the obvious, that men can't become women or something like that.
So it's just, I think people ought to be cautious
who they end up supporting being reactionaries against others.
But if you think about saying men can't become women on Twitter,
a month ago that would have gotten you banned from the platform.
Maybe, maybe.
Twitter's bans are, it's a caste system.
The more followers you have, the more you can say.
So I said, I tweeted, what did I tweet?
Don't cut off teenage girls' tits.
And someone reported to me
and I got an email from Twitter
and it was like, you've been reported under German law or whatever
and we found no violation. Whenever I tweet
stuff like this, people are like, oh, Tim's going to get
banned now. And I'm like, are you kidding, dude? I've got a million
followers. They're not going to ban me. Well, the Babylon Bee got
banned for saying that Rachel Levine,
who's obviously a man, is a man.
That's because Twitter's policy
is if you target an individual.
Oh, I see.
Yeah, so if you say a generality,
then they give you more leeway.
If you have a small account, like 100 followers,
and you say men and women are different or something,
they'll ban you.
If you have a big account, like the Babylon Beans,
that men are different, they'd leave you alone,
but they said Rachel Levine specifically.
Is it too cliche to say that
double mastectomies are modern day
lobotomies, almost, in a way?
Well, they don't remove your brain.
They don't remove the same thing, but just as we look back
on lobotomies now, sort of medical malpractice
is how in the future we will look back on
these sort of surgeries. I was thinking about that too. I mean, it's certainly
an anti-mother
operation. I think it's like a butchering,
it's like the next stage of plastic surgery
and kind of a butchering of a body.
I don't want to deviate too far
from what we were talking about
because we are going to talk about this
in just a second.
Sure.
So, you know, talking about Elon and Twitter.
Sure.
Well, if we're on the topic of Elon,
I just want to respond to what you said.
I totally agree.
I've said this in the past.
I'm cautiously optimistic about Elon.
I'm not totally sold.
And it's absolutely true.
All someone has to say is, I'm not completely all the way on the far left with respect to
one single issue, or I think the left has gone too far here.
And all of a sudden, the right wing is all over that person.
Yeah.
And there's also a lot of parallels between Elon Musk and somebody who's commonly demonized,
Bill Gates.
I mean, these are both people who had their come ups in the tech industry.
And some of the stuff Elon Musk says is crazier than what bill gates says elon musk is the
chip planter well the difference between elon musk and bill gates romeo and juliet i will say they're
both billionaires they're both you know the richest people that existed during their time period
during the top but bill gates gets demonized like no other and elon musk becomes a hero of the same
people the same people who will complain about bill gates being some demonic you know cabal man will praise elon musk for the
simplest things on twitter sure i want to mention one thing about that if i if i may that's the
broadway show nina jankowitz plays elon musk as juliet and uh james o'keefe plays bill gates
as romeo so that's the show.
To your point, I hear...
So the reason I consider myself cautiously optimistic about Elon Musk,
but I don't like Bill Gates,
comes down to really one really important issue.
It's that Bill Gates has repeatedly said things like,
there are too many people in this world.
He's discussed population control.
Whereas Elon Musk is basically the only ultra-wealthy person
saying we need more people.
He's right. We we need more people.
He's right. We do need more people.
No, I'm not a fan of the brain chips.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm not a fan of the brain chips.
But I think it's gotten to the point where there are so few elites saying anything even remotely sane
that when one of them does, it's a victory.
And doesn't he have a bunch of kids?
Yes.
I know Bill Gates also has a history with his father supporting Margaret Thatcher or Sanger in the past.
That wouldn't shock me.
With connections with Planned Parenthood.
But I still think, you know, if you want to extrapolate what Elon Musk says with the brain chips,
it's just as bad as anything I think Bill Gates has said in particular.
So it's just I think it's an interesting thing how we were choosing with the Bill.
Hold on.
What has he said about the brain chips?
I think he said he wants a few. Are you yeah so neural link is i mean it's a pretty fascinating
tool and if it's used properly i think it would really help people who are disabled
okay fascinating right right so one of the things it can help do is people who have spinal injuries
it can help connect their brain to other parts of the body and bill gates is trying to cure
different diseases and sure sure sure and so so that's why this is a moot point.
My question is, what is Elon Musk?
Is he going to force the chip into people's brains?
Well, offering up a service that you don't like and don't
think is creepy is bad.
We can criticize people who do bad things.
But the question here is around freedom.
Bill Gates has called for rescinding freedoms, saying,
how is Elon going to stop misinformation?
You can't do this. He said, we need less people. Bill Gates has called for rescinding freedoms, saying, how is Elon going to stop misinformation? You can't do this.
He said, we need less people.
Bill Gates said that.
And Elon Musk has said, we actually need more people to sustain the planet, and people should
have freedom of speech.
Now, the things they work on, we can criticize.
But when we're specifically talking about Elon and things we like, it's for the things
we like.
And when we criticize him, it's for the things we don't like.
And the end result, I believe, freedom of speech with and and defending the rights of humans or saying
people are good and we need more of them will probably create a better outcome in the long run
no matter what he works on in terms of neural link bill gates saying the opposite is darkness
that will lead us on a very dark path of death and suffering. Yeah, I actually totally agree with that. And I do like this idea that we need more people because we need people to support the
people that already exist and we need to create more resources.
And human beings are the best resource the planet has.
I don't completely agree that, you know, we've talked about overpopulation and
there are a lot of people who say, actually let me try and find
Google Earth. There are a lot
of people who say that
we're not overpopulated.
That's an opinion I think you
guys have, right? Yeah. Have you ever looked at a map
of the United States? Yes.
Have you ever actually looked down
at the level of development
in North America?
It's only really popping on the coasts.
No, no, no.
The entirety, everything.
When you look at – we've got Google Earth here.
When you say development, I mean like when you see pictures of it at night, you see where the lights are.
Human altering terrain.
It doesn't matter where the lights are.
Grab Illinois, for instance, and when you zoom in, basically the entirety of the state has been developed. There's some pockets of trees in some state parks, but you can just go straight through
the state in any direction. And every little square is human development. Why is that bad?
So I'm not saying that's bad, but I'm certainly saying when the entirety of Illinois or other
states are completely developed, overpopulation is something that I think we should
discuss or entertain. Well, shouldn't we then
people maybe should move to other places?
It's not about moving.
They don't live there. We've taken the
land and we've cut it and
developed it to produce a certain thing.
So perhaps we
can say, maybe we're not
overpopulated, but we're overproducing.
We are utilizing massive swaths of
millions of acres or whatever to produce all of this food and all these resources that we're
consuming like crazy. Maybe if humans consumed less, we might not have to worry about overdevelopment.
We're shipping in fertilizer from Europe.an borlaug has increased crop yield but
nutrient density has diminished substantially so i i think as much as i you know i i respect
elon musk saying things like more people is better than less people because when you say less people
really bad things happen yeah i think we should try and make sure we're having a legitimate
conversation maybe i'm wrong but i can point to a few things that i think at least would need to be
questioned like the bug population collapses uh the dead zones in the ocean, fishery collapse, and
mass pollution.
Maybe it's not overpopulation.
We talked with Michael Malice about this.
It may be overpollution or overdevelopment or something.
Exactly.
So I think you hit the nail on the head with that last statement.
My issue with the idea of this being an over population issue framing the narrative that way is that you are with that framing indicating what
the solution has to be in your mind so it's circular if you say we have an overpopulation
problem that way then what you're effectively saying is the solution is for there to be less
people right the salute well but but if you point out the way you did that there there are issues
such as you know insect populations declining if that's the case, or pollution, then we ask the question, how can we deal with these problems?
And there's no reason to believe the solution is to get rid of people or have less people.
I agree with that 100%.
I think the solution is actually better agricultural technology and development.
I believe it is culture.
I think the United States has cultural problems. I think
we all agree with that. I think
we have a culture of gluttony instead of
responsibility. That is a problem.
Absolutely. So you have people who are morbidly
obese and instead of being like, maybe I should
consume less, they're like, this is
fine actually. Let's get on the
cover of a magazine and tell everyone else to live this
way too. I think we have a parenting problem
as well because I think that parents don't teach their children to be responsible
either for themselves or for others and i think that that is a key thing to do like children you
know stop worrying about what college your kids are going to go to or what career they're going
to have and instead teach your kids to grow up to be kind, responsible people who can take care of themselves and the people that they love.
And who also want
to. I think that's what's so insidious.
And find joy in it.
Yeah.
I saw a post not long ago,
and you see a lot of this from people saying things like,
you know, so much of our
life is dedicated to work. And I do
believe that at some point people can be
overworked 100%.
And that's a problem.
But they were saying things along the lines of, you know, the only thing meaningful about my life is when I'm off work.
And I think a lot of that is firstly an issue with the kinds of jobs people have.
Now, there's a good argument to be made for that.
But also that no one finds any value in the service of others.
And people don't take any pride in doing things that make other people's lives easier.
But the other thing, too, is that we have completely diminished the value of just doing work.
Yeah.
Right.
I mean, if there's a job worth doing, and this is cliche, but there's a reason it's cliche.
If there's a job worth doing, it's worth doing as well as you possibly can.
You know, there was recently, I forget what it was,
but sometimes there'll be like an article at work, and I'm going to be writing it at Postmillennial. And sometimes I think like, you know, I don't really feel like writing this.
And then I think, okay, if you don't feel like writing it, clearly, you're missing something.
Clearly, you're missing some aspect of this story. Go figure it out, do some research,
investigate it, find out the interesting part of it, and then write it.
And whenever that happens, oddly, those end up being my best pieces,
the ones where I'm not sure at first and I'm just kind of like, eh.
And then I dig into it and I'm like, oh, that's actually fascinating.
And now I have a great piece.
We were talking about transitions a moment ago.
So I wanted to hold off because we have a story here, actually.
This is a tweet from Colin Wright, good friend of the show.
And it's actually just a repost of an Instagram post from a female amateur skateboarder.
He says, female skateboarder
Taylor Silverman is speaking out after
placing second to a male competitor
who identifies as a woman
at the Red Bull Cornerstone Contest.
Silverman and other female skateboarders
were robbed of their achievements and prize
money that was meant for women.
In the post made on Instagram, Taylor Silverman said,
My name is Taylor Silverman. I am a female athlete. I have been skateboarding for 11 years
and competing for several years. I have been in three different contests with trans women,
two of which I placed second, and the last contest series I did for Red Bull, I placed second.
The trans competitor who won took $1,000 in the qualifiers, $3,000 in finals, and $1,000
in best trick.
This totaled $5,000.
Of the prize money meant for female athletes, I took $1,000 in qualifiers in 1750 for second
place, so $2,750 in total.
The girl who took third received $750.
The girl who deserved $1,000 for best trick took nothing
along with whoever would have placed
third. I deserved to place
first, be acknowledged for my win, and get paid.
I reached out to Red Bull and was
ignored. I am sick of being bullied
into silence.
In the next post, Taylor Silverman
posted the email sent to Red Bull
saying, hope all is well with you. I am reaching out in hopes
of being directed to the right person to express my concerns about what occurred at the
Red Bull Cornerstone contest with the transgender competitor in the women's division. Perhaps that
is you. If not, hopefully you can put me in contact with the correct person. A biological
man with a clear advantage won the women's division, best trick, and also multiple qualifiers.
This took away the opportunity that was meant for women
to place and earn money. What happened was unfair. And at the time I was too uncomfortable to speak
up. I understand that in today's society, even some women think this is acceptable,
but I believe in doing the right thing, even if it's not the popular thing.
I now realize it's really important for me to speak up and I'd like to schedule a time to talk.
So I have announced that, uh, I got my math wrong, to talk. So I have announced that,
I got my math wrong,
but I have announced,
I said Tim Kess will gladly cover the difference and grant Taylor Silverman
the $2,250 difference lost
to placing behind a male athlete.
We will also be willing to cover
the total lost revenue for the female athletes
who would have placed higher
were it not for the male athlete.
Now, she didn't lose $2,250.
She lost $1,250 because she didn't lose 2250. She lost 1250 because
she didn't win best tricks. Someone else, I guess you said, would have. And so some people have
asked me, they said, you know, Tim, you said that the NCAA women, you know, it's too bad for them
or whatever. I was like, no, no, no, hold on. What I said was- You mean the swimming.
The swimming. I said, they are not complaining about it. How can I speak up for them if they're not speaking up for themselves?
Taylor Silverman spoke up for herself, said, I don't believe this is fair.
And I believe that's deserving of support.
And also, totally biased.
I've been skateboarding my whole life.
I had worked with the organization briefly, mind you, that actually got equal pay for women at the
X Games. We've talked about it quite a bit. When I saw this, knowing what I know from skateboarding
for, what am I going on, 23 years, knowing about the physical elements, knowing about the physics,
Taylor Silverman is absolutely correct. And let me make this point before we get into the bigger
picture. Some people have said, in response to me, we had our good friend, the amazing atheist,
said women should compete in the women's division.
I responded to Colin Wright saying that men, males, have a higher center of gravity.
What this means is that from a standing position, a male can ollie higher than a female.
Females carry the center of gravity lower, which is better for balance in a lot of ways,
but means their ollie height, their jump height will be lower. There are very clear
differences and advantages that males will have regardless of hormone replacement therapy.
Skateboarding is not a muscle-based sport where it's like the stronger you are, the better you
can be. There's aggression, there's grit, like your willingness to take risks, and it's very
much control. If you have a higher center of gravity, you your willingness to take risks. And it's very much control.
If you have a higher center of gravity, you're going to be able to clear higher obstacles.
Women also have what's called a more pronounced Q angle. That's the quadricep angle, meaning
because of the wide hips, the femur and the quadriceps come at a harsher angle than a male
would, regardless of hormone replacement therapy. This means that biological females competing at any stage are going to be more prone to leg injuries, knee injuries, ankle injuries,
a clear advantage for male athletes, regardless of if they're transitioning or not.
So this one, to me, I think needs, you know, I'm biased, obviously. But also,
the story's gone viral. Everybody's talking about it. I think it's important to talk about,
and I think it's important that talk about and i think it's
important that people like taylor silverman are speaking out and saying you know i think this is
not fair now the crazy element is her post on instagram has something like last i checked 11,000
comments yeah it's huge the anti-semitism because taylor silverman's jewish right crazy crazy and
she has a star of david and her right and these are these are the leftists who
hate israel who believe in these weird conspiracy theories like like the farrakhan stuff and are now
going after her and attacking her for being jewish simply because she said this is money that was
meant for female athletes yeah i mean look the left doesn't care about these things that they
claim to when they talk about like racism sexismism, homophobia. In fact, despite their vitriol, they don't even really care about the transgender issue.
They just try to use these labels to accuse anyone they think it would be useful to get
out of the public discussion. And when it comes to their attacks on other people,
they're almost always willing to resort to these labels, but it's never talked about, right? So
it's an instance of creating a rule surrounding certain language about ethnicities like slurs
and then saying we are only going to prosecute one group of people for doing this.
So people on the left can get away with it like crazy.
I think they also wanted to figure out how to make sure that white men could be qualified as diversity hires.
I think stories like these are the biggest threat to so-called trans rights, because at this point, when you get into the sports and physically comparing the two, it's unavoidable. So I know for a lot of people, they think live and let live.
If somebody's above 18, let them go through the process.
If they want to get these plastic surgeries to make them look like the opposite sex fine it's not hurting anybody but then once you get to down to something like a
competition where the differences are obvious we're going to be seeing more and more cases like
this well and like leah thomas for example women's women's rights activists know about this women's
rights rights activists can clearly see um that showing the unfairness of men competing against
women in women's sports could be the
turning point needed.
I want to give a shout out real quick to Taylor Silverman.
You can follow her on Instagram, Taylor May Silverman.
And on Twitter, I believe her Twitter is TM Silverman.
But specifically because she posted on Instagram this, truth sounds like hate to those who
hate the truth.
Many people in her position didn't
stand, like for the Leah Thomas, there was no
woman who actually stood up. Only the one
who lost. Yeah.
So this is another
interesting thing. Taylor spoke
up, I believe it's been a few months since the
event. And I actually talked
to her. We're maybe working something out.
Some kind of, you know, we'll do an interview or maybe. But it's been a few months actually since the contest and I actually talked to her. We're maybe working something out, some kind of, you know,
we'll do an interview or maybe.
But it's been a few months actually
since the contest
and I looked at her record.
She's somebody who actually won,
actually got cash.
She got second place.
You know, she qualifies.
She's winning.
When it came to the NCAA swim meet,
the only person who spoke up
was the one who got bumped.
Like an eighth place or whatever it was.
Yeah, it was like,
what was it, 17th or something,
16th place or something? By the way, I made a, what was it, 17th or something, 16th place or something?
By the way, I made a decision.
And it wasn't even her.
It was actually her teammate who spoke up on her behalf.
Oh, wow.
I am going to start calling all of the people who want men dressed as women to compete in
women's sports men's rights activists.
They are men's rights activists.
If you say that a trans woman should be able to compete in women's sports, you are an MRA.
And you will be adopting the language
of radical feminists when you do it.
And bravo, bravo, bravo, Seamus.
Look, when women talk, I listen.
Didn't we talk to Vosha about that?
I don't know. Yeah, I'm pretty sure we talked about
men's rights activism.
I said, I don't care for using the word men or women,
I'll just say male. So when I tweeted
this, we had a...
T.J. Kirk is his name, right? The Amazing Atheist? amazing atheist yeah tj kirk he said uh women should compete in the women's
division and then i it's it's it's absurd to me that you're having a semantic argument for what
reason did we create women's division sports was it because sometimes people wear dresses
no it's because there are biological differences to a great degree, 90% of the time, to a great degree between males and females.
And the colloquial understanding in human society was that man and woman meant male and female.
In fact, to most people today, it still does.
So when someone says a trans woman is a woman, therefore should compete in the women's division, it's like we didn't create the women's division based on the clothing you wear.
No.
We didn't create the women's division
based on how you felt that day.
Like, oh, today I've decided I'm...
I mean, what if someone's gender fluid?
And I'm serious.
That's not just like a dunk on the lips.
What if someone is gender fluid?
On the day they feel like a woman,
do they compete in the women's division?
The answer would be yes.
There is actually a CEO in the UK who...
Makes 70 cents less per dollar when they identify as a woman that day?
No.
Oh, okay.
In fact, I believe it's a CEO who is gender fluid and some days wears pencil skirts and some days wears trousers and was honored as like best woman CEO or or something like that so playing both sides for
the day when he was in the pencil skirt one of the uh difficulties for anyone to speak up is that
they're speaking out against people they know and that's a big component that i think a lot of people
should understand so i know many pro skateboarders for years i have been told by many pro skateboarders
they're upset with what's happening
they're upset with politics many secretly support trump and they all say but i cannot risk my
livelihood to speak out and so exactly well don't don't don't come to me but i will say i wanted to
add something to this uh there is an issue at play here and it is a pro skateboarder that i have met
and skated with on a couple occasions who's friends with people i know named leo baker uh leo baker is a is a non-binary
i believe formerly i believe trans man and before that was was a top female athlete named lacey
baker and i i i i mean no disrespect but i have questions. And that question is when Leo was competing as a female in the women's division as Lacey
Baker and winning, Lacey transitions into Leo, says that they're trans, but continues
to compete against women.
So my problem is who is coming out and saying that Taylor Silverman is wrong when she says this?
Why is it that a biological male can say that they now identify as a woman and compete against women,
but a biological female can say I am now trans but still compete against women?
It's because everyone knows that it's fake.
Everyone is aware of the lie.
And we're supposed to just deal with the fact that we know it's a lie and say something that is untrue, which is exactly what happens, which is literally what happens in the book 1984, is that you're supposed to know that, you know, you believe the truth and you speak the lie.
And that is the most dangerous aspect of this. What I want to add, too, sorry, just because when I saw this story, I saw Colin Wright's tweet that Taylor spoke out.
That's look, Taylor is not somebody who is a prominent pro skateboarder with millions of followers who can risk speaking out and be rich.
These pro skateboarders who tell me they can't speak out.
I'm like, you own how many houses?
You have how many followers?
You'd lose half of them.
You'd still be rich.
Or at the very least, you'd be middle class.
Well, J.K. Rowling speaks out.
She's spoken.
She's said that she has lost opportunities.
She keeps speaking out.
She keeps being active for women's rights.
And I have the utmost respect for that.
I have the utmost respect for Ms. Silverman here. And I hope that, you know, I hope that you guys work out a great situation
and that she's able to be, you know, continue being successful in her chosen path.
We all know that it's unreasonable. When we saw Leah Thomas swimming in the pool against women,
we could all see that it was completely a total lie that this person should be competing against these much shorter, much smaller, much less strong women.
And we were just supposed to go along with it anyway.
And people did.
And it's shocking to see that.
And I think that the more this happens and the more we see women athletes start to speak out, the more, hopefully, the tide will shift on this. And, you know, Beth Stelzer, who does Save Women Sports,
who's a really fascinating person who saw this happen in weightlifting,
you know, she's been fierce and fighting on this.
I think the key thing you said there is women, and it needs to come from women.
And that's why I think Taylor May is so commendable here.
It's great.
Because if it doesn't come from women, I mean, men could bark about this all they want,
but it's women who are the victims and are missing the opportunities because of this.
So they, unfortunately, in our society, need to be the most vocal about it because people don't like listening to men.
So I'll address one super chat, and they're saying that I complained that the swimmers didn't speak up until after they had lost.
So let's break this down.
First, is Tim biased?
Yes, obviously.
I'm a skateboarder.
I've been skateboarding for 23 years.
So, of course, I see this story, and I'm like, oh, harumph.
How dare they? But there is a difference.
With the NCAA, they had been consistently competing. They knew it was happening. They knew it was going to happen. They had swam more than one time. There were multiple races.
My understanding of this story, having dug into it and spoken with some people involved,
when you go to a skateboarding contest, you don't know who you're competing against.
They say, hey, there's going to be a contest in this place at this time. You go to a skateboarding contest, you don't know who you're competing against. They say, hey, there's going to be a contest in this place at this time. You go to a local qualifier,
then you show up and all of a sudden you see who you're competing against.
My understanding is that this is not an instance that's exactly the same where this person knew
I'm going to fly to this place and compete in this contest against a trans person. It was, they showed up and said, oh, really?
Now, fair criticism.
It did take Taylor a few months to speak out.
And I think, you know, you need to speak out sooner than that.
And, but that's fine.
I mean, look, man, I can be angry and critical.
And I think the fact that she was second place, won cash,
could have walked away with the cash, not as much cash as she wanted.
But instead, she's like, no, no, no, no.
I've got to say something about this.
Because the woman who got bumped out of the bracket isn't speaking up.
Like with the NCAA, the woman who got bumped from the bracket was the one who spoke out.
And I said, you're only speaking out because you lost the money?
Well, in this instance, the person who got bumped didn't speak out.
The person who did get the money is the one speaking out.
And I'm like, okay.
But either way, either way.
I got to say, I love that they came for your sport and you were just like, no, that's it.
I'm not doing it.
Then they came for skateboarding.
They came for swimming and I said nothing because I do not swim.
That's not true.
I think there's a fair element there.
Absolutely.
I think there's a fair element.
But I think that's great.
I think that's great.
When you see it happen in your own stuff,
I think it really makes a big difference.
I saw this happen in theater when suddenly grants that were,
because, you know, there were grants like women's plays.
Only women should submit plays for this and, you know, proposals and whatever.
And then the granting opportunities and the opportunities that had been
specifically for women were suddenly for women or self-identified women. And I was like, what's this about? This is not reasonable.
This is not for playwrights who are men in dresses. This is supposed to be for women
playwrights. And everything changed. Everything changed very quickly. And that's why, you know,
that's in part why i started speaking
out about this because i found that so infuriating and stupid it is infuriating and it's not as if
anyone could change the the definition of woman like men and women are different but i do find
it comical that women were never asked no because only they were literally never asked
dudes started wearing dresses and like, yeah, we're women.
It's like, do you have opinions about that?
Like, yes.
No, you're not allowed to.
You're not allowed.
Imagine a situation.
There was no policy.
There was no committee.
Imagine a situation where a six-foot-tall man in a dress with heels looks down at you and says, I'm a woman.
I'm a woman.
Are you going to say otherwise?
You're like, yeah, no, you're a woman.
Oh, sure.
Okay.
Don't hurt me, Mr. Crazy Man.
We try to be respectful to people who are – we try to be respectful.
As I mentioned often, even Ben Shapiro said he would use preferred pronouns in a public
setting because it's just easier, though he doesn't agree with it, and wouldn't
use it in an academic or a journalistic setting.
We are the tolerant.
We say, I may not like it, but I'm going to mind my own business.
You do your thing.
And that's how gay marriage comes to pass.
We're like, okay, look, you're going to get your tax benefits.
You can go into your home.
You can do your thing.
And then it's funny because there's that meme from 2000 and was it 2012 or something?
I was like, what happens if gay 12 or something or 2000 yeah it was like
what happens if gay marriage becomes legalized and it's like world war three will happen
people will start teaching kids about about gay sex and it's like and here we are those things
are happening that's what's going down let's jump to the story though from the ap u.s soccer
equalizes pay in milestone with women and men they say the u.s soccer federation reached a
milestone agreement to pay its men and women teams equally,
making the American national governing body the first in the sport to promise both sexes matching money.
Oh, boy.
So this is why I think this is crazy.
Lydia.
They have different pay structures.
They're different leagues.
It would be like, imagine if Burger King announced that they were going to be paying McDonald's employees the same rates.
So my question is.
Are they bringing the men up or the women down?
Or the reverse?
They cut the men's salaries.
Yeah, it's just like, yeah, all right, we're cutting funds.
But so are they taking funds that were generated by the men's division and giving them to the women's division?
Because the women's division can't make enough to pay them what they pay the men.
Yes.
I think that's what it is.
So it says, U.S. women and men's team agree historic deal to share World Cup prize money.
That is very insulting to the people who are generating that revenue.
So I think the AP was wrong.
What the story is, at least from The Guardian, is that they're going to share each other's prize money with each other.
So are they saying that the women should be dependent upon men's money?
I find that interesting.
I find that interesting. So the men
are going to be giving up... Are men providers?
I guess so. The men are going to
give up large, you know,
millions upon millions, and the female
athletes are going to give up hundreds of thousands.
So why would men play for the
U.S. team? Why wouldn't they just go play in Europe
and make a lot of money and not play on the
national team at all? The interesting part about this
is that the men's team is actually trash
relative to other men's soccer teams.
Well, sure.
No, our female soccer team is one of the best in the world.
Right, but still men's soccer generates more money.
Yeah, exactly.
But it's number one.
So if we're America first right now, then we should be rooting for our women's team.
Yeah, root for them, but they're still generating less money,
so why should they get more?
Yeah, we should support them too. We should buy should buy what was i mean if people want to support it
you can buy a wrap where's your rapinoe jersey a lot like where is it let's see why aren't you
dying your hair purple just to get like megan rap i did these activists can watch in new york city
well there was a parade yeah when they won a few years ago the people who want to support the
parade the people who want to support the women's team, they can watch.
People can get invested in this without having to take from the men's team.
And it's funny because you mentioned the men's team is not that good.
I don't follow sports, but I've heard that.
But it's not as if anyone's saying, well, you know, we should be giving the trophies that the women win to the men's team because we just like men more.
What we're saying is if a group of people earn a certain amount of money,
they should get that amount of money.
And if a group of people earns less than that,
you don't redistribute it to make them feel better.
It's a socialist soccer team.
Especially when they're making money playing sports.
They have a dream job.
They're an athlete.
You do when you're a communist.
Right.
It's a socialist soccer team.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, it's funny.
Which makes sense because it is a European sport, right?
No one's South American.
I love when the Blue Checkies journalists were like, the women actually win and the men don't.
But the men are getting paid more money.
And it's like the men negotiate a different pay structure.
That was literally it.
Well, there's also different audiences.
There were bonuses or guarantees.
And the women wanted guarantees.
The men wanted bonuses or something.
So it's like the men got bonus money and made money and the women didn't
or something.
But also, yeah,
it's just like,
imagine someone
working at McDonald's
and they're like,
this McDonald's
makes a million dollars
per month.
And then across the street
is a Burger King
that's only making
like $500,000 per month.
So the Burger King employees
get angry and go on strike
and say it's not fair
that McDonald's employees
get paid more than us.
It's like,
you're different businesses.
I get you both sell cheeseburgers,
but you're different businesses. So then they agree to share their salaries. Like, like, you're different businesses. I get you both sell cheeseburgers, but you're different businesses.
So then they agree to share their salaries.
Like, okay, sure, I guess.
So, yeah, that doesn't make any sense at all either.
So do, like, if the men win,
they have to give money to the women or something?
I think they're going to be less incentivized to win.
They're not making as much money.
The men's team's going to do even worse.
Less incentivized to play on this team.
So wait, hold on. Well, you said the men's team is really bad.
So does that mean the men aren't going to win and aren't going to make money?
And so the women's team isn't going to end up making this money from the men anyway?
I think it's more people who just care.
The people supporting the women here, they're men's rights activists.
They think men should be getting alimony.
What if we got trans women to fill the women's league instead?
But they would have to i guess we could right
well i'm sorry are they trying to exclude trans women from their space so the issue that i had
with the uh well the question is are there any trans women on the women's soccer team we don't
even know that and if there aren't it's clearly bigotry obviously yeah well i mean you know the
argument from the left on this is uh again, the amazing atheist tweeted at me that tall people are better at basketball.
We don't ban tall people.
And it's like, okay, so then for what reason don't we just seek out only trans women to play in the WNBA who are going to be taller or in women's soccer who are on average going to be substantially taller and have more bone density and muscle mass. The point I was bringing up with the skateboarding thing is that people like to mention strength.
It's like in swimming, your strength matters.
Your strength and endurance matters.
But in skateboarding, it doesn't.
In skateboarding, it is control.
It is timing.
And the advantage of having a higher center of gravity, of having narrower hips,
no matter what you do or change, that's not going to have an impact.
I'm wondering if in these skate contests, I don't think they have any hormone requirement like some sport leagues do where it's like you got your testosterone has to be a certain level.
Because that wouldn't matter anyway. In which case, my point is, are we going to come to the point where if the argument is based on gender as a social construct and not sex, then someone who's literally a 6'6", 250-pound muscular male could just be like, I'm a woman.
Like Zuby, right?
When Zuby did the deadlift and said he was a woman, why not?
That should be completely permissible.
Under their ideology, yes.
Yes.
In which case, the women's... I got to say, why?
How about for women's soccer, we just get a bunch of males?
I'm not saying this disparagingly or as a gotcha or anything.
No, it's a real question.
I think you're just being inclusive, Tim.
Well, no, no.
But in all seriousness, if the goal of the team is to win money, the goal of the team
is to win contests, we want the brand to succeed and the coaches want the best team possible, then they should have open tryouts and just bring on the best possible people that there are.
And if the team ends up being 90% trans women, we'll win more.
Good.
I'm curious as to when we're going to see an actual big backlash from women on this actual issue as it becomes more common because there aren't that many trans women
in these sports yet but as we continue to age you know the the youth i think it's something like
20 to 30 percent of the youth nowadays um considers themselves some form of lgbtq yeah
here's an issue though there's a there's a lot of problems with um early medicalization for
trans identified youth um and this was this was sort of interesting recently a mom reached out early medicalization for trans-identified youth.
And this was sort of interesting.
Recently, a mom reached out to me and hipped me to a talk that was given by Dr. Marcy Bowers at Duke University, who is trans and has performed some 2,000 trans surgeries.
A trans doctor performing the trans transfer. Right. Okay. And has
performed these surgeries on young people, um, has also prescribed the, uh, puberty blocking
drugs, the Lupron, as well as the cross-sex hormones. If a child goes on puberty blockers
and then goes directly on to cross-sex hormones and does not go through a natural puberty blockers and then goes directly onto cross-sex hormones and does not go through
natural puberty, they will never orgasm. They will never have full sexual function.
Or the emotional.
Or the emotional aspect. Additionally, if you're a little boy and you go on a puberty blocker and
then you start taking estrogen, you will never have enough genital material to be converted into the wound that is then referred to as the
neovagina. That will also not work. Additionally, if you are a young person and you start taking
cross-sex hormones, you're going to have substantial problems with bone density.
So the odds that you're... Yeah, blood coagulation, all with bone density. So the odds that you're...
Yeah, blood coagulation, all of these things.
So the odds that you're going to be able to play sports
are remarkably small
because you're just not going to have the physical capability to do that.
So if a young man doesn't go through natural puberty,
he's not going to be able to play against Megan Rapinoe.
Anyone who does that to a child belongs in jail i i think that's happening in how many states now
it's uh what is it florida um i think iowa maybe florida there was iowa um was it oklahoma
texas i know there's a couple of states where it's it's illegal texas they'll they'll take the
kids from the parents.
Right.
And then they actually ended up investigating.
It was Ken Paxton's office.
And it was actually inspired by Libs of TikTok, which Libs of TikTok, I talked to her about it.
And she was like, that was amazing.
Like, I actually helped, you know. But what was interesting is the attorney general's office then found themselves investigating a parent who worked at Texas Social Services for medically transitioning their child.
I think one of the great lies, one of the big lies among trans activists, obviously beyond that men can actually become women and women can actually become men is that these puberty blockers have no consequences
and that we have fully studied their unintended consequences.
We're right now giving puberty blockers that were supposed to be used to treat,
I forgot what exact hormonal diseases,
but we don't fully understand what these puberty blockers do
when used in the case of gender dysphoria in children.
It's not completely reversible.
There haven't been studies. And it's not completely reversible. There haven't been studies.
The studies aren't done.
And it's not completely reversible at all.
There's not any reason to believe that it's reversible.
But this is the argument made to allow to walk that back.
Once a child goes on those puberty blocks, Lupron, right,
which is supposed to address precocious puberty,
and then you take the child off. But in cases of healthy children, you go on it, they put you on
it, and then you immediately transition to cross-sex hormones. So you don't, and most kids
who go on the puberty blockers do go on to take the cross-sex hormones because they're already
believing it. So it's not a pause button. It's an initiation.
Yeah. Yeah. The thing is, you can't exactly tell when somebody is going on hormone blockers,
so it's hard to visibly see how many people are doing it. But what I do see as somebody who's
from New York City, Brooklyn specifically, one of the most trans parts of the city,
is that double mastectomies are relatively common. This isn't something that like you don't see or hear about from friends or friends or see
people.
Yeah, it's relatively common.
And I think that to convincing women that the right move or whatever you're dealing
with interpersonal women deal with a lot of issues mentally going through puberty, etc.
But to convince them to get double mastectomies to remove their breasts,
again, I think is a form,
is comparable to modern-day lobotomies.
And not just women, girls. I mean, it happens
to people who are underage.
It happens to girls.
If I may, just one thing.
They talk about how
they tell kids
if you're not comfortable in your own body, then perhaps
you're trans.
And I think it's important for people to realize that it's not really that normal to be comfortable in your own body.
Like, bodies are super uncomfortable.
Especially during puberty. And especially during puberty.
Especially during puberty.
Puberty sucks for everybody.
Like, it feels weird and yucky to have your body change.
I know personally, like, I was 18 before I realized that I should wear
a bra and it was my, it was my college roommate who was like, you really need to do this. And I
was like, ew, gross. I don't really want to be involved in this. Oh, you guys are all embarrassed.
That's really cute. Um, I mean, I never realized the way I was horrified. I was like, I was,
I was horrified by being, by like being a grown woman. I was like, this is really uncomfortable.
For men, it's called a bro.
Right.
You've got to wear it when you're like 50.
Right.
Didn't Kramer do that on Seinfeld?
No, it was George's dad.
That's right.
No, he wanted the man's ear.
The man's ear.
But he had teamed up with Kramer.
Kramer wanted the bro.
That's right.
He's like, no.
And they were arguing about it.
The bro.
The bro.
The bro.
So let's throw it back to eugenics in the early 1900s.
When we had Matt Bender on the show.
I like that segue.
Well, it's because it's the idea that progressives aren't always right.
They think they are.
They think they always win, but that's not true.
Seamus made a good point.
He said every instance in U.S. history where someone has tried to deny personhood to another group of people
they've always lost something like that right yeah no group of people who has ever made the
distinction between human and person and said it's technically a human but not a person has ever been
on the right side of history when we examine the situation later so you look back at eugenics and
we've we've done away with that it's like a bad idea nobody likes that yet the you know tenants
of it still exist. Like when we had
Matt Bender on the show, he was saying, he
kept saying over and over again, if a baby was
born with deformity of abnormality,
you wouldn't be in favor of
ending its life. And I'm like, no. And he was
shocked by that. And I'm like,
I'm not into eugenics.
If a human being is born
different, we want it to try and live.
What an ableist view that is that you should abort disabled children.
Here's the issue.
Genetic diversity is important to the health of any species.
This is basic science.
It's observable.
If we start saying these traits are undesirable, where does it end?
And I'm not going to, oh, slippery slope.
No, no, quite literally you have parents being like, oh, he's got a heart issue perhaps.
They're going to look at the DNA and they're going to say, when he's in his 30s, he may experience this.
So why don't you try again?
They'll go, okay.
And then you're going to move the needle more and more until at what point are you arguing that it's just designer babies?
And at what point do you end up with a disease that primarily affects people with a specific gene or specific cell receptor?
And then all of a sudden it's like we didn't realize that homogenizing the gene pool was going to result in population collapse, but here we are.
So I'm just like, you don't do that.
Well, Tim, the left has actually disproven the slippery slope.
They showed us it's actually just a cliff.
I mean, you go right over instantly.
We mentioned aborting
for whatever disabilities.
I'm trying to look up the exact source
because I remember this in the past, but what I'm reading
right now from The Atlantic is that in Denmark
they actually do tests
to see if the child does have Down syndrome.
According to what I'm reading,
it says nearly all expecting mothers choose to
take the test. Of those who get a Down syndrome diagnosis, more than 95% choose to abort.
That's right.
So this isn't just some fantasy tale scenario that we're talking about.
This is actually happening.
The thing, too, is you get to decide, right?
They have all of these.
Because I was older when I had my son.
I was like 35 when I was pregnant. And there's all these tests that they can give you
that give you like, you know, if he's going to have whatever.
There's something about X's.
I don't really know.
But there were a ton of them.
And they were like, oh, you need to take this and this and this.
And I was like, why?
And they were like, you know,
because it'll tell you if your child has a deformity.
And I was like, I'm good.
Don't care.
I don't need any of that.
I think there is an argument to be made about,
I'm not saying abort children who have Down syndrome,
but there is some version of a quality of life argument.
But I do think the argument starts to become
is where do you draw the line to where you abort a child?
I'm not saying it's okay or not okay for Down syndrome,
but if we keep moving the needle or the line,
it's like, well, if your kid has diabetes, do we potentially want to abort him because what if they're short
yeah yeah what if they're short what if they're going to have male pattern baldness
you know i hear like two out of five men do right corner like a roman ad yeah it would be the end
of them ever the end of so many great and very important people. That's right. When all the parents would have to do is bestow a beanie upon them.
Exactly.
I gotta say, I like a beanie.
Lydia pulled up the story where it talks about
what is this, Prader-Willi syndrome.
It says studies have found its positive results
are incorrect more than 90% of the time.
Insanely high numbers.
I read about this. I think we wrote about this
a while back. And it is absolutely
insane because the genetic testing is not always correct.
You want to talk about the death penalty being wrong, what, 25% of the time?
I want to talk about this test and why people abort their babies.
I'm against all of it.
I'm against abortion.
I'm against the death penalty.
I'm against euthanasia.
I'm against all of it.
This is an important point.
When we're talking about the death penalty, there's an argument to be made,
all right, well, like 75% of the time or whatever, that person's guilty, whether you agree with the death penalty or not, if the number is 25%.
But whether a child has Down syndrome or not, they're innocent.
It's wrong to kill them.
So people are horrified because they go, oh, my gosh, all these children died who didn't even have the disease that I think it's okay to kill people with.
They're getting it backwards.
You just should not kill unborn children yes when we were talking with matt he it was just it man it was
kind of crazy when he was like you said you would stand with those who wanted to ban abortion
and i was like i said if my option was you who wants to legalize elective abortion at nine months
or standing with the people who would ban it i will
stand with the people who will ban it that's how yeah because that reduces the amount of death
yes but he didn't understand and he was like you you just want to ban abortion it's like
no but that's what they're told that's what they tell themselves they have to say tim it has to be
for a lot of the way some people view you it has to be that black and white that's why you have to
be right wing in that dude's eyes.
It's so...
You know.
But it was funny because it was like two...
It was like a progressive and a liberal
arguing over abortion.
And the people who are watching who are conservative
are like, these people are far left.
Everybody's insane.
I know, right?
I'm like, I'm pro-choice.
And he was like...
I asked him and he said that he thought
the woman can choose to abort the baby at nine months.
And I'm like, that's not...
You just deliver it. The people in the middle always also to abort the baby at nine months. And I'm like, that's not – you just deliver it.
The people in the middle always also get called the opposite of whatever side.
So, for example, like if you're a 14-weeker, pro-lifers are calling you pro-choice.
But pro-choicers are calling a 14-weeker relatively pro-life.
Do they say that?
Right wing.
100%.
If you're not up until nine months, then you're essentially pro-life.
Look at the conversation we had with Matt.
Yeah. But I think like pro-life and Look at the conversation we had with Matt. Yeah.
But I think pro-life and pro-choice is a dichotomy, right?
You're either in favor of legal abortion or you're against it.
I realize that there are some people who are in favor of it at different stages or against it at different stages.
But ultimately, it's a binary.
You're either okay with abortion or you're not.
That's why at TimCast.com we say pro-abortion or anti-abortion.
Yeah.
Because pro-choice and pro-life are just stupid buzzwords.
It's rhetoric. Matt says he's pro-choice
but not for men.
What do you mean he's not pro-choice for men?
Women have the right to make a financial decision
to kill a baby, but a man doesn't have a right to
choose to abandon the baby.
So if a woman is pregnant
and she says, I can't afford this,
she can terminate the pregnancy. It's her body.
It's her choice. The man could also be broke,
but he can't say,
I would like to be removed from financial responsibility
and choose not to have a child.
So basically he's infantilizing women.
Oh, yeah, of course.
I mean, that's typically what the left does.
They say that women aren't responsible for their choices.
You're not responsible for having sex with somebody
if you had too much to drink.
That's on the man,
even if the man had just as much to drink or more.
Do you remember that poster?
Which one?
There was a poster that went up at school that went viral several years ago where it was like,
have you both had too much to drink?
Well, you're raping her.
That's right.
It's like, well, you're both drunk.
You're both trashed, bro.
Especially, I think in Illinois.
But I think that's infantilizing.
In Illinois, the statute is that rape is specifically male on female and women can't rape.
Like, I don't think there's no law for it.
Can, I mean, I guess women can rape.
It's hard to imagine.
No, it happens.
It happens. I mean, there was the story of that guy in the store where the woman force fed him Viagra or something.
Oh, my goodness.
Yeah.
I will say generally it is harder for a woman to rape a
man but it definitely does happen it's actually assault from women guys guys you are just you're
oversimplifying this a guy can be sexually attracted to a woman and have a girlfriend
and be like i can't do this and then she can still coerce him or force him she can lean in
his ear and say i'll accuse you of doing something i'll claim you hit me she can spike his drink
there's a whole bunch of stuff. There's also been
I think substantial number of cases where
a female teacher has raped
a male student.
Like if a male student is 15
you don't have a ton of control over your
whole situation and your teacher
is 28 or 30 or whatever.
I think the
revelation here is that... I was just reading an article
about that today. I think the real here is that... I was just reading an article about that today.
I think the real epiphany for all of us here
is that women are obviously the real perpetrators
the whole time.
Yeah, there you go.
I knew that all along.
Or perhaps equality means that everyone
is responsible for their own decisions
and the outcomes and consequences of those decisions.
That's exciting.
When you talk to a progressive...
Maybe I read too much Camille Paglia.
I don't know. When you talk to a progressive about Maybe I read too much Camille Paglia. I don't know.
When you talk to a progressive about abortion,
they say, well, the man made his choice.
He could have chosen not to have sex.
And it's like, but not the woman.
I've heard someone say that before.
I once heard someone say
that you can choose not to have sex
in order to not get pregnant.
I've said this before.
At some point, left-wingers just end up
making right-wing arguments, but in really inconsistent ways.
Right.
That's what was confusing to me.
I was like, I don't understand what your position is.
Like, what are you opposed to?
What do you support?
And it's just you get these these empty buzzwords.
You know, it's her decision.
It's her choice.
No matter how many times me and Seamus were basically talking about the baby's body.
What if the baby's a girl's?
The baby.
Is it her choice? Matt's answer was talking about the baby's body. What if the baby's a girl? Is it her choice?
Matt's answer was, it's the woman's choice.
And it's like, the baby is alive and being born.
It's the woman's choice.
He's like, it's her body.
It's like, but what about the baby's body?
It's just right over the head.
There's no argument.
You can't argue if someone doesn't understand what you're talking about.
Makes it hard, yeah.
Yep.
Well, I thought,
I think we did have a very productive
conversation with Jamie yesterday, and one point
he made, and again,
I mean, I very much enjoyed it. And by the way, I'll say
this, and we talked, we did it, we appreciated
Matt coming on
and being willing to have a conversation with us,
and I mentioned it was mostly with Tim. there was a couple moments i felt a need to interject i
didn't want it to be on two two on one there were a few times i was like all right i have to jump in
here because this is like blatantly incorrect i need to say something but what i really appreciated
about jamie is he clearly disagreed with me on the pro-life issue but i felt as if his questions
were very much in good faith and he was sort of curious about the perspective and he said something which was we're not really going
to get anywhere with the dialogue if people like don't have faith that they can reason with the
person they're talking to and they don't have some basic empathy and understanding for the other
position people on the left like you by the way i just want to say empathy for it doesn't mean it's
a good position and i agree with it like i think i think it's completely abhorrent to uh in abortion, but also at the same time, I think a lot of people believe in it because they just don't understand the issue that well.
How can you have a coherent political discussion with people who believe Justice Millett?
You can't.
Yeah, that makes it tough.
Like Taylor Lorenz can write every article in the world, and people like, they stare at it with drool coming out of their mouths
and it's like, maybe this person can't
understand arguments.
It's so funny that you just mentioned Jesse Smollett
because I just pulled up a post-millennial article
saying, flashback, Dr. Oz pushed
Jesse Smollett, hate crime.
Is that true?
I mean, we all pushed it.
We all came out the next day and released our public statements, didn't we?
We'll see if Dr. Oz ends up coming on top of it.
Dr. Oz also was pro-trans and kids and was pro-abortion prior to 10 minutes ago.
We couldn't get Sean Parnell?
I know, right?
Man.
That's crazy.
Have they called it for – who's going to win that?
I don't know yet.
It doesn't matter.
McCormick versus Oz.
I don't think they called it yet,
but I wanted to mention something about Dr. Oz.
I covered the Pennsylvania rally.
I was asking people,
is Dr. Oz America first?
Most people said no.
One person that I spoke to said,
Dr. Oz is the kind of guy who's supported by Oprah Winfrey.
That's why he doesn't like him.
And then I responded to him,
you know, Trump also supports him,
and Oprah originally supported Trump too. And then I responded to him, you know, like Trump also supports him. And Oprah originally supported Trump, too.
Like I'm old enough to remember when Oprah Winfrey supported Trump's originally when Trump started running.
Wasn't Hannity like the the the Trump whisperer for Oz?
It was so like it was so weird to so many people why Oz got that endorsement.
It's interesting.
We're seeing like this celebritification.
I don't know if we're seeing it more.
I'm just paying more attention. But it's there was Trump originally like this celebritification I don't know if we're seeing it more I'm just paying more attention but
it's there was Trump originally there's
Dr. Oz there's also I forgot
the superstar football player college football
player in Georgia who's running for Senate
I don't remember
he has the gay son who's
a conservative activist
to Walker Walker
Herschel Walker
yeah he's running for
Senate, I believe, too, in Georgia. So it's interesting
that we're seeing the celebrification. More
celebrities throwing their hands
in the races. Although we saw that with
Ronald Reagan. He was a famous Hollywood
actor. All right.
And you can't get more famous than JFK.
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we're gonna read some super chats right now all right gertius maximus says project veritas presents
to catch a redditor that's nice that's actually hilarious Why don't you take a lean over there?
El Guapo says,
Good to see Libby back on Timcast.
She is such a breath of fresh air.
She is so intelligent, well-spoken, and absolutely beautiful.
Oh my goodness.
Wow.
I agree with that guy.
Aw, you guys.
Rilo says,
Ending disinfo board is evidence.
They put the cart before the horse.
Government can only restrict government speech, so how the F could they run midterm spygate scandals of the board tasked with stopping disinfo
that is funny they they just shut it down because they realized their only ability was to
caught their own lies they're like wait a minute it's gonna stop us from lying they were like way
too busy fact-checking joe biden they fact-checked joe biden then they're like wait a minute the only
thing we're allowed to say is that Joe Biden lied? Wait a second.
Andrew Irvin says,
Post Millennial is reporting
that 76 brand gas stations
are preparing for $10 a gallon gas,
and that gas stations in the Tri-Cities
are running out of gas.
Yeah, that's Katie Davis Court's reporting.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think we saw that the other day.
Yeah, we pulled it up
and didn't get to it last night.
It was really interesting.
Maybe we'll talk about it in the after show.
Yeah.
Lunderwear says, do a Project Veritas skit like Mission Impossible.
Dossiers on Twitter that self-destruct and 3D printed masks for O'Keefe.
Oh, yeah.
True Hello says, so you think suspended is code word for slipping with a black budget program outside of the purview of public congressional hearings?
That was the joke.
That when they're like, we're suspending the program,
and then all the journalists write it down and say, all right, and they leave,
they turn around and the general's like, your budget's being increased.
Well, the other thing, too, is there was supposed to be a hearing, a Senate hearing, and it was canceled.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, the Disinformation Governance Board hearing was canceled
because of all of the disinformation surrounding the Disinformation Governance Board.
Interesting.
Mm-hmm. Interesting.
Yeah.
Amber Birds says I can't ignore the timeline of the disinformation board shutting down as Bezos says Biden needs to be fact checked by the disinformation board.
Yup.
Yeah, that was funny, too.
I think they realize what that meant.
I think that people that you've got a government agency, there's going to be lawsuits and then
they're going to be forced to be like, yeah, Joe Biden lied about this,
lied about this, lied about this.
And so did Nina Jankowicz,
and so did Jen Psaki.
They all lied.
I think it's funny that...
About the same things over and over again.
We joke that the Department of Defense
is actually the Department of Offense.
Nice.
But then with the disinformation board,
it's like,
why would we assume they're stopping disinformation?
You know, if you go to an ice cream shop, are you assuming the guy who's there is trying to stop people from getting ice cream or he's trying to give the ice cream out?
So what are they going to do?
Yeah.
Good point.
Andrew Petra says, if you haven't watched the Army's new recruiting video for its psychological operations career field, you need to.
Really weird and creepy stuff.
Ooh, someone pull that up.
Did it say you have to have two moms?
Yeah.
That was the Navy, right?
No, that was the Army.
Oh, that was the Army.
Yeah.
That was the Army.
And you had to be neurodivergent.
So the Army had the ad about two moms.
And, you know, we all talk about it.
And Russia started shaking in their boots and so did China when they saw it.
Some people told me that the Army is very administrative.
So that's what they were targeting, you targeting, people to work and file paperwork.
The ad for the Marines was a guy who was in a swamp with a rifle going through the trees or whatever.
All right, let's grab some more.
Seriously, JK says, last night's James O'Keefe undercover running gag was quite possibly the funniest string of jokes and ideas I've seen in a long time.
Thanks, guys.
And we're going to do it.
We came up with a really funny one afterwards that was
Jamie being scared of getting cancelled.
We can't spoil the whole thing. Should we spoil it?
No, no, no. We're going to make it. They've got to see it.
Yeah, the ending was brilliant.
It was a really good one.
I won't spoil it.
I won't spoil it.
Alright. Thomas just says, yeah, Tim
and crew. Alright. Very All right. Thomas just says, yeah, Tim and crew.
All right.
Very cool.
Cole Kirkman says, I'm sorry, Kirkham.
Tim, I just traveled from Houston to Altoona.
I'm a traveling tower climber.
I'm up here for work.
I'd love to meet up with someone about possibilities on joining the team.
I don't know what we have right now, especially for a tower climber.
Good, sir.
We are looking for
journalists. That's so
hard to find. Writers, specifically.
People who write?
Difficult. Everybody's getting poached
up and whatever. Yeah, it's hard to find writers.
Alright, there are a lot of
super chats directed at Libby.
They're saying
that Libby is a good mother.
Oh my god
I knew I shouldn't have worn this dress
we'll just leave it there
I even asked Lydia
before we went on I was like I don't know about this dress
they're all just saying you're a great mother
that's right
that's very kind
JH says I'm late to the party on this one
but everyone needs to watch the creepy lawn on prime video
very interesting documentary from 2018 on election manipulation via big tech.
Was it the Democrat one?
I don't know.
Remember the Democrats put together something?
They were like really concerned about voter manipulation through voting machines back in 2018.
Oh, that sounds right.
Yeah.
Something like that.
Yeah.
That sounds right.
Okay.
Smedley Butler III says,
Inflation is an increase
of the currency supply
devaluing the currency's
purchasing power
which raises prices
the one and only
culprit behind this
is a printing machine
and its family owners
oh man
the chat is going off
what is everyone saying
they're just saying
good mother Libby
oh my god
yeah it's very complimentary
look at my sweater.
There's a lot of Super Chats.
Thanks, Libby.
No, I'm just kidding.
Oh, my God.
Some of these Super Chats are inappropriate.
Some of them aren't.
Come on, chat.
Get it together.
You guys made Libby put on a shirt.
So we got some big super jets.
I'm not going to read that.
It's my own fault for buying a new dress
and thinking I should wear it in public.
Michael Tufts says,
Seamus, please shame everyone in the chat.
Seamus, get on it.
For shame.
For shame.
Here's one.
Stronger says,
Libby is looking very pretty tonight.
Seamus is okay.
Oh, wow.
I'm glad someone thought I looked nice.
I like the purple shirt. Thank you
very much. I don't need to do laundry.
Matthew
Reckham says, Kamala is an android that
runs on a predictive text AI. Changed
my mind. I know. It's really funny.
Did you ever do one of those tweets
where you just press the middle predictive text
and then just put it out there?
You read that and you're like, that does sound like a common speech.
Did you see her thing about working together?
No, it wasn't.
Okay, I'm going to find it.
You can keep going.
I'm going to find it.
There was, and I want to mention about Democrats,
there was a poll from The Economist.
It was a YouGov poll in The Economist
that said, and this was in 2016, that around 50% of Democrats agreed that Russia tampered with vote tallies in order to get Donald Trump elected president.
Wait, what?
Yeah, when you mentioned hacked voting machines, I wanted to bring that up.
Say it one more 50 so it's a yugo poll
that said people believe 50 of democrats believed in 2016 that voting machines were actually hacked
or that russia tampered with tallies in order to get trump elected there was a story i think it was
newsweek that half the country believes half of the population of the country believes the country is being run by a secret
organization they don't know. Like they don't know who it is.
Wow. Yeah.
Not surprising. But I think
the scarier thing is that half the people
don't think that's true.
No, because I think when you read that,
your assumption is they believe in the Illuminati.
When in reality, they're like, oh, there's
probably like big pharmaceutical, big lobbyists
who are doing things we don't know about and that's actually the reasonable position but it's
also what literally everyone argues right because the right will argue things about like there being
a deep state or corporate america having too much control the left will argue similar things about
corporate america used to argue uh similar things about the deep state and they'll also say things
like well this x y z is a threat to democracy. The people aren't actually in control here.
So I don't know why that's considered like an insane conspiracy theory.
It's pretty mainstream to not think the government's yet truly being run fairly.
We got a good one here.
John Harrell says BlackRock Neurotech is making their own brain implant.
Maybe Musk is making his as an alternative to theirs.
Look up the brain initiative.
So when you have two billionaires
or a massive multinational corporation
and a billionaire
both looking and saying,
implant my thing into your brain.
I'm the good guy.
What you're supposed to do
is ask the other one,
ask the other one
what the other would say
and then do the opposite.
Do you guys know the riddle
about there's two brothers
and one always lies away?
It's like the doors, right? Right, you ask the other one
and then do what the other one tells you to do.
But I have
the Kamala thing, if you want to see it.
Oh yeah, what is it?
How do I show it to you? Well, just read it.
She said,
we will work together and continue to work
together to address these issues, to tackle these challenges, and to work together as and continue to work together to address these issues
to tackle these challenges
and to work together as we continue to work
operating from the new norms
rules and agreements that we will convene
to work together on
she said that
that's a predictive text AI
that's what she said
it's like when it gets stuck in a loop
and it keeps giving you the same word over and over again
that's happened to me before what she said. It's like when it gets stuck in a loop and it keeps giving you the same word over and over again. You keep pushing the same button.
Yeah.
That's happened to me before.
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
But she said it out loud.
I mean, is someone like pressing predictive text in Kamala's brain?
No, you don't understand.
She's reading a teleprompter.
The person writing the teleprompter has predictive text.
They're using T9.
I don't know what's going on with that, but.
There's like.
She actually said that.
Everything she says makes no sense at all.
And the fact like the only thing that is keeping people from trying to get Biden out of office is knowing that we would get her instead.
You'll get like a productive, predictive text loop where you'll write.
I went to the movies and what will come up.
It'll say and and you'll hit it.
And then I went to the movies and then i went to the movies
and then that's a kamala harris speech that's how she writes her speeches she's like hi everybody so
i went to my family's house and then i went to the movies and then i went to the movies and then i
went to the movies and at the movies i watched the movies yeah i watched a movie at the film
there was a screen there was a film screen. There was a screen.
There was a big screen.
And there was a small chair.
And we sat in the small chair and watched the big screen. That's right.
We didn't sit in the same chair.
We sat in separate chairs.
Have you seen the family where Lois Griffin is doing the political debate?
Oh, my gosh.
No.
And they're like, how would you deal with the growing financial crisis?
And she goes, 9-11.
And they go, whoo.
That's right.
And then they ask her another question. And she goes goes 9-11 and they go and then you know they ask her another question
she goes 9 that's right 11 they're all screaming so good that's maybe maybe she knows something we
don't know maybe or what if maybe she knows 9-11 what if it's like uh half the country's been taken
over by robots and the robots are speaking clearly to each other and we are laughing at them thinking
we're so smart and they're taking over smart enough what was that you know that put on the
glasses put on the glasses man they live yeah yeah they're all james o'keefe yeah we have
since someone chatted that in last night yeah yeah yeah doing a spoof where it's a guy he puts
his glass on then he can see all the james james i just i don't know if it's a guy, he puts his glasses on, and then he can see all the James O'Keefe's everywhere. They're everywhere.
I just – I don't know if it's a good or bad thing that people are going to – like, if every person at every tech company now thinks they could be getting hit by James O'Keefe, imagine the relationship problems they're going to have.
There's going to be an engineer at YouTube who meets, like, this amazing woman, and they're going to have all the same interests, and he's going to be like,
It's James O'Keefe!
That's amazing.
And she's going to be like,
I'm not! I'm not!
And he's going to be like,
I don't believe you!
No, everyone should have background checks for every date that they have.
But seriously, though, imagine that.
Imagine in real life a guy
meets this beautiful woman organically,
and he just gets terrified,
and they stop answering the phone and then she calls
one day and she's like you stopped answering the phone he's like you're james o'keefe and like
hangs up and she's like that was weird well or maybe these people when they go out on dates
should not be trying to impress their prospective mates with spilling their guts on coming yeah i
know it's our first date but let me tell you about corporate malfeasance i mean stop breaking your nda just because you're trying to get laid like come on it's insane also
but like the things they are spilling aren't even things that would impress a date like i only work
four hours a quarter what you're telling her you're lazy why would you say that on a first date
some of the questions are a little bit obvious too like when they keep probing like i think there
was one person who she was like yeah what do you do you think of Project Veritas, by the way?
And this guy was just completely clueless.
She's like, can I get that in writing?
Yeah, yeah.
No, well, the funniest part.
When the guy said Veritas.
Yes, exactly.
The Project Veritas employee goes, he gives them info about, the person being set up gives them info about Project Veritas that's on their phone.
They're reading a corporate email.
And the Project Veritas reporter goes, Project Veritas?
I was like, how obvious?
How obvious are you going to make it?
Like, this is a cartoon.
Remember when Homer tried getting Mr. Burns' mail?
And he's like, hello, my name is Mr. Burns.
Okay, Mr. Burns, is that your first name?
I don't know.
That's what it was like. I will say this about the Veritas videos, Mr. Burns, is your first name? I don't know. That's what it was like.
I will say this about the Veritas
videos, though. They do leave me wanting
a little... I know they heavily edit a lot
of their dates, but I want to see the full dates
with these guys. Oh, the whole thing?
I want to see when they look into their eyes.
I want to see the very pretty Project
Veritas girl that they definitely hired
with the creepy looking... Oh, but you can't show her.
Well, I'm assuming they can only do one gig.
No, because they have to do more than one gig.
No, that would be dangerous.
Yeah, but they totally can.
They just don't release the footage.
But then doesn't the guy know about the girl?
Yeah, but not before.
The guy's looking at her face.
Yeah, but he's going to try to reverse out her.
I bet the guy's not looking at her face.
The girls will do multiple stings, and then they release the footage.
Yeah.
Let's read some more.
We got Bogdanoff says, Tim, what happened to your members-only comment section on your website?
Why can't we comment anymore on your videos?
We will reveal more information in due time.
We have to do some infrastructure work for comments.
So we've got an announcement coming.
I can't say too much, but when we switched over to Rumble, a lot of
things had to change. We've got to build stuff.
That's the easiest way to put it, but we're going
to be implementing a bunch of infrastructure
changes to avoid
to become more resilient against censorship.
Wouldn't it be funny? I was just sick of what
you guys had to say.
I was tired of arguing.
No, no, we want comments. We're thinking
of a bunch of ways we can do it, and we'll get it sorted.
Okay, Joseph says, I just put in an offer for a home on two acres in Minnesota for $200,000.
The home was built in 73.
The deal is expensive and hard to find near jobs.
But, you know, good going.
Congratulations.
That sounds really cool, yeah.
Get some chickens.
Nice.
Goats, yeah.
Chickens and goats. And they'll
hang out together. And sometimes it's funny, the chicken will
ride the goat. No way. Really? That happens?
Do you have goats? We don't, no.
We're going to.
Wait a minute. What's the channel?
What are you going to...
What's going to be the project with the goats riding chickens?
Are we going to get to see that? Well, it'll probably
just be Chicken City. Chicken City with
goats. Oh, that's cool. That's nice. Goat township. Well, so long as the chickens outnumbers the goats, it's going to get to see that? Well, it'll probably just be Chicken City. Chicken City with goats. Oh, that's cool.
That's nice.
Goat township.
Well, so long as the chickens outnumbers the goats, it's going to stay Chicken City.
So if they get enough goats, and then they're going to demographically.
But also, you already have the brand name.
I don't know if this is a replacement theory.
It's a Chicken City edition of a replacement theory.
The chickens start getting freaking out.
The chickens are like, why are our eggs going to the goats?
I don't understand why they're sending the eggs away.
The leghorns get really worried about it.
And then you're going to have some great cheese, too.
Who are you going to have come in to make some cheese?
The leghorn joke worked really well for people who know chickens, but for those that don't, they're all white chickens.
Okay.
I see.
Yeah, that makes sense.
And then we have the red on the reds are brown and white.
So let's read some more super chats.
Alexander Harold says, first SC ever. Kill someone in self-defense. You have to prove self-defense. like you know brown and white so let's read some more super chats alexander harold says first sc
ever kill someone in self-defense you have to prove self-defense so burden of proof for abortion
health and rape would require investigation similar to self-defense thoughts four-year fan
that's uh that's actually interesting if uh if you were going to create an exemption for abortion
in the case of rape there would have to be an investigation. And they would have to be able to, like, prove it, I guess.
But the left would never stand for that.
I mean, firstly, they would never want to limit the number of abortions ever.
But then I think their argument would be like, no, you never investigate into it,
because that would allow them a loophole for basically anyone to still be able to get an abortion
so long as they said they were.
I think some of the most successful movements in the country are always trying to, you know,
they try to morph and live up
to the ideals of the constitution so i think you know the civil rights movement did this
where they they were arguing that all men the declaration of independence said that all men
are created equal bestowed with unalienable rights by their creator so like you know i think
a pro-lifers it would behoove them to make a similar type of argument what do you mean that
like babies have certain
unalienable rights and we do live live up to the values that are said in our constitution
and then if we want to change that well we need amendments to do that so well if you kill a
pregnant woman and you kill her baby do you get charged extra i don't think i think sometimes you
do homicide yeah it's a double homicide scott peterson right i guess yeah lacey peterson
well he killed his wife and baby, right?
She was pregnant, if I'm not mistaken.
But it depends on the state.
Does it depend on how far, too?
Probably a little bit.
Probably, yeah.
All right.
Burt, USA.
Hold on.
Scott Peterson was convicted of killing his pregnant wife and their unborn baby.
How far in?
What state, though?
What state?
Wasn't it Massachusetts?
I don't know.
Tell me it was a blue state.
It was a blue state.
It was a blue state. That'll be interesting.
It was either Massachusetts or California.
Tell me it was before the heartbeat.
She was pretty pregnant.
There was a case like that in Massachusetts, too,
where the guy said that it was a black guy who came and, like, carjacked them and killed his wife.
So it was, on top of everything else, it was, like, super racist.
All right, while Seamus figures that out we got burt usa florbo says new case of monkey pox
spotted in massachusetts the dude got it when in canada a little too close to the abominable
snowman if you ask me conspiracy i think not monkey box what if there's a monkey box pandemic
what is monkey it's a disease. You get it. Sam says,
innovation competence is like other traits.
It operates on a bell curve.
While percentage stays the same,
real numbers change
and the far ends push out
as numbers increase.
So the highest potential ability
increases with larger population.
For example,
the top 1% in 100
versus 100K.
That's a really, really good point.
When you have hundreds of millions of people, the, really good point. When you have
hundreds of millions of people, the bell curve
will get wider because you have a higher chance of anomaly.
So, actually,
that's an interesting way to think about it. If there's
a one in a million athlete, but you only have
100 people, you're not going to see that
amazing athlete. If a million people,
you'll have one at the far end. So the bell
curve actually will become wider.
Ty Johnson says people want to be younger today because they were trapped inside afraid of the outside as children due to tech and the parents wanting safety over childhood is that what it was
don't know uh the peterson case was in california was it wow so in a one of the most isn't california
like very pro-? Super pro abortion.
They're so pro abortion that they don't even track how many abortions are performed in the state.
It's Schrodinger's child where it only counts if you want it to.
And when it's not advantageous, it just doesn't count. I was looking at this recently and there are a number of states that don't report or record or keep data on how many, on the racial breakdown
of abortions.
So I'm pro-choice, but one of the most eye-opening statistics that I heard that was for many
years in New York City, there were more black children aborted than were birthed.
And it just sounds so outrageous.
Exactly.
It sounds that outrageous where you're just like, wait a minute.
I don't know if it was every year, but it was for some of the years.
And to even have gotten close is kind of a crazy thing to conceptually.
Yeah.
Wow.
Margaret Sanger's dream come true.
That's crazy.
Yeah, it was.
It was actually a lot.
It was a lot of abortions performed in New York.
It was like New York and Florida were at the top of abortions.
Yeah.
All right.
We got Josh says, hope you guys are planning on doing another drinking game next time. Biden at the top of abortions. Yeah. All right. We got Josh says,
hope you guys are planning on doing another drinking game next time.
Biden has a State of the Union.
That show was one of the best TimCast fam.
You know what we need to do?
We need to do,
it doesn't need to be the State of the Union.
We should definitely do for any, you know, big event or something.
We got to bring Jamie back, Kilstein and Lauren Southern.
Yes.
And then Lauren can have more
of the pappy in her paper cup. But that was
hilarious. The show with Jamie was
absolutely hilarious. And so we'll just
it'll be two hours of just
laughing nonstop. And then everyone will have to go to the
hospital from ruptured guts.
He brought a really good energy.
Yeah, it was fun. Really fun. And Lauren did.
When she poured the $1,000 whiskey in her paper cup
and drank it a lot. Wild. It was very funny. Very funny And Lauren did, you know, when she poured the $1,000 whiskey in her paper cup and, you know, drank it a lot.
Wild.
It was very funny, very funny.
We enjoyed it very much.
Tim, you promised me you'd never invite her back.
Oh, she'll be back soon.
Bailey Ray says, IMO, Silverman spoke up because skaters aren't in a bubble within their sport.
They grew up in skate parks in the streets.
Most parks have all walks of life.
Skating will set you free.
I agree with this.
There are a lot of people who skate who are conservative.
They just want to admit it.
And that's the problem.
Conservatives.
Why are you so cowardly?
Yeah, if everyone just spoke up and spoke their mind, there wouldn't be any of this cancellation backlash nonsense.
That's right.
Yeah.
I think the coalition is more of an anti-left than conservative.
Yes.
The anti-left, and when I say anti-left,
I'm going to talk about two specific issues.
It's that men can become women and women can become men.
It's kind of this gender ideology issue.
And then it's also the defund the police stuff.
Those are sort of one of their two big things on the left.
I haven't heard a lot about that lately.
I haven't heard a lot about the defund the police.
Yeah, well, like a year ago.
So you think it's going to come back?
Let's not forget.
BLM is not as popular.
It's because BLM isn't as popular and defund the police polled horribly.
And the Joe Biden administration, as well as Democrats, know that now after trialing
it.
So they have to run away from it more.
But there's still the ideologues in the party who do believe that.
Well, and BLM turned out to be a whole bunch of grifters.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So that's still kind of an issue.
I'm going to give a wag of the finger
to Fox News because they are
really misrepresenting the latest
scandal. So they keep
saying that Patrice Cullors paid
her baby's father and her brother
$970,000 and
$840,000. Let me
clarify that because I feel that's very misleading
there's an LLC that does
an LLC run by her baby's
father does live production
and her brother runs a security
company now by all means I think
hiring your friends and family
to do the jobs is a conflict of interest
when you have all this money but the idea that that money
was compensation versus cost, that's what
happens when Fox News says she paid
her brother. It's like, no, no, no, no. Look,
if her brother was doing security
at this company, how many security guards did she hire?
How much money did she really get? So maybe
what really happened is she paid her brother
$100,000, which is still like
should a non-profit
be hiring all of their friends and family?
The live production thing,
the one question I had was,
they spent $150,000 on a live stream.
And I'm like, okay, now we're asking some questions.
But Fox is making it seem like
she's just giving the money straight to her brother
to do whatever he wants with.
So he's getting a lot.
The other thing, too, is if she was receiving more than $100,000,
they would have to disclose that on the 990s.
They did not, because she probably wasn't.
It doesn't mean she's not getting paid in other ways though so she also said that those 990s
were triggering to have to fill them out right that was funny oh no people are gonna find out
yeah i have to do accounting all right rajesh says my humble so oh she also said that she was a she
was flush with white guilt money right yeah yeah my i mean, that's, she's right.
Of course she was.
I don't think that's a problem to say that.
She is completely accurate.
All right.
Rajesh says, my humble submission to the panel to reprioritize issues. First, dying microbes in soil leading to starvation in future.
Hashtag save soil.
Second, climate change real or not, we need best practices to preserve life on this planet.
Millionth priority feminine men trying to get attention.
I agree with the more responsible practices when it comes to maintaining the environment and all that stuff.
My attitude is kind of like, I can't stand the Green New Deal because AOC was just like equity and social justice.
And when I brought that up to Matt, he's like, that's where it starts.
That's the important thing to deal with the Green New Deal is minorities.
And I was like, what does that have to do with wind turbines, dude?
I want energy sources that don't generate carbon, like nuclear power.
An amazing return on energy investment.
Energy return on energy invested.
And no carbon emissions. We're all happy, right? No, they don't want that either. on energy invested, and no carbon emissions.
We're all happy, right?
No, they don't want that either.
Yeah.
Also, I'll say this.
We absolutely need to have a coherent understanding of sex in order for society to function because the family is the building block of society, and sex is what creates families.
And if we don't have a functioning society, we can't hope to solve any of the problems he's pointing out.
So these issues are genuinely important. But Google has announced that they're very close
to creating an AI with human intelligence. So perhaps we can just build people.
Quickly on the climate change issue.
That's going to go great.
I believe in anthropomorphic climate change. That is to say that the humans are having some
influence on the climate. But I also believe that we are scientific creatures and our continued understanding
and new discoveries that we will run into is what's going to help us steer our way out of this.
My issue with the Green New Deal is that it doesn't try to solve, reduce carbon emissions.
I don't think it tries to do any of that. It just tries to overthrow, quote unquote,
capitalism and our current system. That is the goal of the Green New Deal. It's not to reduce
emissions. It's to try to force
our way to use renewables that won't work well in our system and then also like fund questionable
things because again we paid like billions of dollars for these solar panels in china that
never panned out now that we're just overlooking these costs so the issue with the green new deal
is that it's more about communism really and socialism because that's what happens at these
events than actually trying to make a difference for the environment.
Right now there's like an island of plastic the size of Texas or even larger right now.
The North Pacific garbage gyre.
So that is something that I'm genuinely concerned about.
I studied biology.
I care a lot about the environment.
I've never heard anybody talk about how we're trying to deal with that,
and that's something more tangible than just climate change.
I will say that I was with a theater company for a while,
and we worked for a very long time on an art project
that was about ocean pollution, ocean acidification,
and the North Pacific garbage dire.
That's why I know all about it.
I do have a solution, though.
I've thought a lot about this.
So hear me out.
What if we gave free health care to marginalized people why don't
actually would make the environment worse because you'll produce more refuse
like more more medical waste what we really need to do is we need to pursue more nuclear energy
medicare the reason medicare for all won't ever happen is because the democrats will insist to
give um make abortions included
in health care and also insist that all illegal immigrants also get health care that's why this
issue i don't think will ever move forward i know that's a huge conversation i think it won't move
forward because they want to keep uh using it as an issue that will never move forward well just
what we'll do geostationary orbital nuclear power stations that transmit energy wirelessly down to the surface.
How can you, like lightning?
No, no, no.
An electromagnetic large.
Is that a thing?
I don't even know how that works.
Or laser or something.
Yeah, there you go.
Boom.
Problem solved.
I'm with it.
Then when it melts down, it just blows up in outer space.
And they keep taking nuclear power plants offline.
I got it.
Guys, a Dyson sphere around the sun.
You know, I speak to a lot of Green New Deal people,
and they'll tell me they're anti-nuclear openly.
No, of course they're anti-nuclear,
because the boomers have convinced everyone that nuclear is going to kill everyone,
and it's not.
Well, they're not really there to solve the problem, I think, is the literature.
I think that's exactly correct.
I've got one.
Instead of a Dyson sphere, we'll put a Tyson sphere
around the sun.
A Tyson sphere, like Neil deGrasse Tyson,
it just pedantically corrects you
about things. I thought you meant like
Tyson chicken, and then we just get a lot
of chicken. It's like the sun powers it.
It'll cook chicken really fast.
We'll just read a couple more here.
Ants Honey says,
You can't fool me, James O'Keefe.
What have you done with Libby?
I admit it.
It's me.
I'm about to break out in song.
We need to have James on at one point
to just have that happen with, like,
Lauren will be here.
And then while we're talking,
we're like, wait a minute.
That's not Lauren Southern.
And then we'll have James jump in and say,
That would be brilliant.
James in a wig, like, jumps in.
Poorly disguised as Lauren.
It was James the whole time.
There's a funny meme
that uh uh shamus uh you tweeted and i saw it someone a wolf's bane 1104 made it and it's the
uh the crazy hot axis have you ever seen that oh yeah yeah where it's like you know a woman who's
like really crazy and kind of hot you stay away from like a woman who's like hot not that crazy
you marry and then normally it says not crazy and totally
hot. Unicorns don't exist. He changed
it. It says James O'Keefe.
James O'Keefe. That's correct.
All right.
Let's see.
Zach Snow says, I love this show,
but I'm hating the chat tonight. Libby,
love seeing you on the show, but you're killing the chat section
tonight. It's not me, you guys. Why are you blaming
me? I haven't even been in the chat. That's not me, you guys. Why are you blaming me?
I haven't even been in the chat.
That's right.
She has not. I've been over here
in this chair.
She's been very focused.
With King Kong.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
All right.
We'll grab one more.
Dorktanian says,
I will run the nightly
Timcast IRL drinking show
judging which tropes
are shots, drinks, and flubs.
It was flib, right? It was flib florbs when it went i made up a word for women you should say florbs again that was really funny good yeah so who was it they were like what word should we use
for a woman then yeah not women i was like flib yeah yeah flibs i like florbs yeah florbo yeah
yeah well florbo is neutral yeah oh i see that's gender
neutral neutral is yeah so my my point was that if someone tells me i have to use their pronouns
i'll say i won't use the pronouns that um if you're like hey don't use he he or him use this
or that i'll say i won't use the pronouns you want but i'll use totally different ones you don't
expect florbo okay florbo yeah florbo, you know. And then it's like,
but it's nice.
It's like Florbo.
It sounds like a marshmallow.
It's kind of fun to say.
Right.
Which I think should count for words.
It was meant to be like
the beanbag of words.
Right.
So it's soft.
Yeah.
And you're okay.
But they don't get to tell me
what I say.
It reminds me of like a,
you remember Flobie?
Remember that?
Flobie?
Do you remember this?
Is that what it was called?
Flobie?
And it was like a vacuum
haircutting tool? Yeah, it sounds
like it. Oh. Yeah. Well, it reminds
me of, if you have not already,
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