Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #538 - Cops TASED And Detained Parents Who Tried To Save Their Kids In Texas w/ Kash Patel

Episode Date: May 27, 2022

Tim, Ian, and Lydia host potential Timcast writer and bass player Adrian Norman and former Trump administration official Kash Patel to discuss the police officers who refused to allow desperate parents to extricate their children from a school shooting, even as they saved their own kids, the problems with red flag laws and leftist arguments for gun control, Oklahoma's abortion ban, Hillary Clinton's coordination of Russiagate lies, and the rising new social media platform that Trump is now on, Truth Social. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Crazy video that's come out of Texas where you've got a bunch of these parents that are outside this school in Uvalde. Am I pronouncing that wrong? I think that's right. And the cops are actually pinning one guy down. They pepper sprayed some parents. And one woman says that the police even tased a father who was trying to get into the school to save his kids. This is a crazy story because what we're talking about are Texas parents. I'm sure some of them must have been armed. I mean, maybe not. They were armed. Armed Texas parents saying,

let me go save my kids. And the cops were like, no. The cops reportedly went in and saved their own kids. But there was one woman who breached the perimeter, made it into the school, got her kids out. So this is actually generating controversy on the left and the right. The left is angry with police. They're like, what's the point of funding these police if they're keeping parents from actually going in? And you got people on the right. They were like, there are good guys with guns and the cops would not let them stop this guy. So this is an interesting story. We're going to talk about that. Plus, we're going to talk about some of the stuff going on with the

Sussman trial, stuff having to do with Russiagate and Hillary Clinton. And we're also going to talk about Truth Social. Plus, we got in Oklahoma, they are now the first state post Roe v. Wade, I believe, but in recent modern history to ban abortion from the moment of conception with limited exceptions, which is really interesting because depending on which poll you check, people are actually okay with that. Oklahoma basically banned elective abortion. Now, I want to just add something before we get the show started because joining us, of course, we've got a couple of really great guests, and Kash Patel is here.

And literally, as we're getting ready to do the show, his phone rings. It says 45. And it says 45. And then he's sitting here having a conversation with president trump and i'm just like get him on the show dude let's let's let's do it so i asked him yeah and he said yeah we'll make it happen i guess we'll figure out how to do it we'll get trump's a busy guy yeah but we'll get there right on man well so joining us is cash patel how's it going oh it's going great i love to be back the compound's looking better than ever, man.

You put some nice finishing touches on it. Yeah, it's getting bigger. And we're actually building our West Virginia. Oh, you're doing that? Okay, yeah. It's coming. It's the materials. Steel was hard to get.

And so we've just got to build as much as we can. So you want to introduce yourself, your career? Yeah, no, yeah. I'm trying not to put people to sleep. Thanks for having me. Good to meet Adrian. Great to see you guys again so yeah so my life exists on fightwithcash.com fight with cash with a k doing a couple things since i left the administration i was the chief of staff for the department of defense i headed up trump's counterterrorism programs and did some

other stuff along the way back in the house uh intel days i ran the russiagate investigation for chairman nunez put out the nunez memo all the hillary clinton campaign financing broke the steel dossier story all that stuff and fast forward to john durham and russiagate unraveling and the sussman prosecution so i'm looking forward to talk about all of that but most importantly i'm very excited about my new children's book the plot against the king it It is Russiagate for children, literally. Instead of talking about critical race theory, we came up with our own CRT. We call it Children's Reading Time. So basically, The Plot Against the King is a medieval story with Hillary Quinton, Keeper Comey, and a shifty knight who are taken on by a knight

named Everett and a wizard named Cash on their quest for truth and of course joe biden gave us the biggest promo ever by calling trump the mega king the day before donald trump launched my book on truth social the plot against the king so get it we want to put in schools everywhere their art's fantastic and uh we're hoping to uh stay at number one on not just children's but become overall number one it's plot against the king.com you get own copies. They did, what did they do? Like testing to find the slogan for like six months to figure it out. And they settled on ultra MAGA. And all of the Trump supporters are laughing about it.

But what I'm seeing from these leftists are like, they're so dumb. Polling showed that people don't like MAGA. So they're buying into it. And I'm like, I don't think these establishment journalist people who are saying this don't realize the right doesn't care about that. It's just about having fun and making jokes. So, Cash, thanks for joining us. We also have Adrian Norman. Thanks for having me. My intro is far less exciting than Cash's.

I'm a conservative writer, author, commentator. I do have my first book that was out prior to the 2020 election. It was called The Art of the Steal. It's about election fraud prior to the 2020 election. It was supposed to be kind of a warning. But, yeah, I'm happy to be here, and thanks for having me out, Tim. Yeah, man, thanks for joining us. Yeah, I appreciate it.

What's up, everybody? I'm also in the house. That was a fun call before Donald put Donald on speaker. We got to all listen a little bit. Great guy. Good to see you guys, too, man. I'm looking forward to the show. And thanks for the book, Cash. This is cool looking, man. I'm glad you. We got to all listen a little bit. Great guy. Good to see you guys, too, man. I'm looking forward to the show. And thanks for the book, Cash.

This is cool looking, man. I'm glad you're the wizard. We have to be creative. I love it. I'm looking forward to reading this kid's book. It seems delightful. And I see and I know that the volume is a little low, so I'm going to be tweeting that throughout the show a little bit as we go.

Thank you guys for joining us this evening. Very excited. Very fun to hear Donald Trump on the phone. So we'll see what the evening has in store for us this evening. Very excited. Very fun to hear Donald Trump on the phone. So we'll see what the evening has in store for us moving forward. Before we get started, my friends, head over to TimCast.com and become a member to help support our work. As a member, you'll get access to exclusive

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But it is valuable that right above the ABC News building where all of those people work is me. And it's 70 feet tall advertising this show. And so every time they go out for lunch and they come back and every morning when they come in, I'm above them. I'm very happy about that. It's about asserting our presence in establishment cultural spaces so that we can basically say, you are not the elites anymore. How many of you are able to do things like this? We are taking over. We are the new media. And it's thanks to all of you as members who are able to do things like this. Now, it's a bit vanilla, I guess, getting an ad. So I've been talking with some other trolls and smart people who are good at culture jamming

about campaigns we can do every month that serve as marketing but are going to effectively send the message, you are not the elites anymore. I'm very excited about this. Thank you all so much for supporting the work we do and making this possible. Let's jump into this first story. And I'm using the Daily Beast on purpose because the Daily Beast, as you know, is fake news. The Daily Beast. So this is let me slow down. Here's the story. Cops still can't explain agonizing hour long wait to storm Uvalde classroom. Distraught parents can be seen literally collapsing into themselves and wailing in anguish as officers refuse to answer their pleas to storm the building.

We hear about all the time from conservatives. A good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun. Not when the police are being bad guys with guns, right? When they're using their authority and their power to stop you, stop a parent from going and saving their kids. When they went and saved their kids, one mother was able to go in and save her kids. Now I want to point this out. I'm using the Daily Beast because they are fake

news. The Daily Beast is certified by NewsGuard as fake news. Proceed with caution. This website fails to adhere to several basic journalistic standards. Shocker. I mean, honestly it is. Because you'd think the Daily Beast is an establishment outlet. They'd get cover from everyone.

They were called real news for a long time. No, they're fake news. You are fake news, Daily Beast. But when even the Daily Beast fake news is pointing out what was going on there and that cops weren't letting people in, we got a weird story. I mean, something's weird.

I don't know what you guys think. So, look, I got to go to the Daily Beast, too, because when I cracked the Russiagate code running the investigation for Chairman Nunes back in 2017, 2018, the Daily Beast outed me as a staffer and wrote a whole hit piece on me, which is unheard of when you're a staffer. You're not an actual member of Congress. You're just working there. And they called me a genocidal dictator.

So I agree with you. Daily Beast is fake news because I'm not a genocidal dictator. I'm just the son of a man who fled from a genocidal dictator regime overseas. So he was able to get me out there. What dictatorship did he flee from? Idi Amin in Uganda. Wow. Yeah.

Did they actually use the words genocidal dictator? Oh, yeah. And they called me Torquemada. What's that? Wow. Yeah. Why? Did they actually use the words genocidal dictator? Oh, yeah. And they called me Torquemada. What's that? Wow. The guy from the Spanish Inquisition who was a genocidal dictator who like slaughtered millions of people. And why?

Because you were calling out fake news? Well, because I was reporting that, you know, we have proven Hillary Clinton, you know, paid for it, the campaign we were getting going and it was big news. And they were like, we're going to take this guy out. I didn't think anything would actually come of it. But then there's been a million pieces after that. But they started it. Well, so what do you guys think about what was going on with these parents?

This seems weird to me, right? Well, I will point out some people have said, look, you don't want a bunch of angry and confused parents rushing into a building. It can get chaotic, especially if they're armed. I had a moment of empathy when I was watching the video and I heard the screaming parents where it was just like, if I was that, and all of a sudden I felt like because of bureaucracy, I don't have a chance to save my kid and then find out that the kid was killed. The cops are doing what they were instructed to do, which is don't let the people run inside. They might get hurt. They might cause more damage.

But my God, when it hits the fan, it's like the rules run inside. They might get hurt. They might cause more damage. But, my God, when it hits the fan, it's like, the rules are off when your children's lives are at stake. And you need to do what you've got to do to save their lives. That was hard to watch. Yeah, I was reading about this and I was like, I literally cannot imagine what it'd be like to stand

there and think that my kid literally might die within the next few seconds if I wasn't to jump in and do something about it. And for the cops to stand there and to that my kid literally might die within the next few seconds if I wasn't to jump in and do something about it and for the cops to stand there and to tell me not to go in I would lose it I wouldn't be able to would be responsible for my actions yeah I spoke with somebody earlier who said that he had had some contacts on the ground and the reason for the delay is that they were so the the shooter had gone into the building and they were sort of establishing what their protocols were going to be for for breaching which is a little different than this story because now we come to

find out that police actually took the time to go in and save their own kids but didn't allow parents to go in to say theirs it didn't make any real effort to save anybody else's and i think that's it's sort of a travesty you know and this isn't the only situation that we've had with the school shooting where there was a huge delay in terms of a police response. You know, with Parkland, police were told to stand down. There was a long delay before any action was taken. You got one guy in there with a gun and then you got, what, dozens of people outside. It seems like there would be some sort of protocol in place that would allow them to be able to go in and do something.

Yeah. I mean, that's the thing with law enforcement, right? Coming from a law enforcement background, you want your cop, that's why they sign up, to go in there. Yeah, you establish a perimeter, all that stuff, but if there's a school shooting, get some bodies in there doing something, and I think that's the biggest complaint. You got to wait for the investigation to come out because it's going to take forever to get everything right, but my biggest question is, why weren't there a couple of cops in there right away?

Like, why? You guys think that cops should have – be armed? Or not cops, rather. I'm sorry. That's not what I meant to ask. Teachers, teachers, do you think that teachers should be armed in these schools? I think if teachers want to be armed, why not? Because obviously they're going to have to go through some sort of training.

You know, you can't just carry. But if somebody wants to carry, if they've proven that they're able to be responsible and that they have demonstrated a certain level of proficiency with a firearm and they're able to protect kids, you know, if they're carrying concealed, nobody's going to know which teachers are carrying and which aren't. I'm not for forcing any teacher who doesn't want to carry to carry. But if you have somebody who is open to the idea and they want to be that person and they could be somebody that interdicts a situation like this,

I don't see any reason why we should not allow that. Simple answer, yes. It's not a question of teachers. It's a question of people. I think people should be armed. That's it. Yeah, 100%. Well, I was workshopping this idea earlier today that I think that the only way to fix this gun problem that we have in the U.S. is to do it from the ground up.

That means cultural change. That means someone who's going into a school or someone who's going in to rob a store, they don't know if the person they're about to rob or the person they're about to attack is going to be armed. And that's going to significantly dampen their enthusiasm for doing extremely criminal criminal activities obviously that's not something that the government can enforce and we need to like have a serious respect for guns but i know i hope we could get there i don't think so so right now the one thing that really bugs me about the whole the whole issue is there's no real conversation uh particularly from the left on um solving these things just, they complain about people saying thoughts and prayers. Well, I don't think thoughts and prayers is solving any of the problems either. It's just kind of like, you know, I feel for you, which is, I don't get a problem with it.

It's just, you know, okay, great. You know, sympathy, empathy. The left then comes out and gets angry and says, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I got to stop. Not the left, the liberals. The left, it's like guns, you know, leftists or more revolutionary, they like guns. The liberals are like, we need background checks.

And I'm like, okay, we got those. What's next? And they're like, no, no, no, we need background checks. I'm like, okay, we have those. That already happens. What's next? I don't think, you know, we hear enough from the right is like we should arm the teachers. That's not going to solve anything either.

And I'll tell you why. It may, it may prevent because some of these guys some of these these psychopaths might be like a teacher could be armed that i that i agree with but in this circumstance cops were there the good guys with guns were there the parents were good guys with guns the cops were and the cops actually impeded it that the cops were supposed to be the good guys with guns they stopped it you look at parkland security guard, didn't he run away? He got in trouble for that. So I'm saying I think we have deep-seated cultural problems where, you know, you guys see Beto O'Rourke heckle the press conference on these kids. And I'm seeing, you know, Democrat activists cheer for this, and I'm just like, come on, man, choose your battles. But that, what Beto did,

is a contributing factor to why lunatics do this. They know that you're going to get Barack Obama, that you're going to get Beto O'Rourke, and they will scream your name out to the world with your picture. So that's what they're thinking. They're thinking this is how people will finally

know who you are because they're sick. They're nuts. Everybody agrees. Jordan Peterson tweeted out earlier that we should not be saying the names of these criminals, these killers. Just don't because that's what the big part of it is. They want to be famous. They want it to be their final hurrah. And then if they see names get shouted out, that my copycats might come up and do the same thing. Thought it was a good point.

You know, some people have mentioned what we need is cruel and unusual punishment for these people. And I'm like, well, you can't do that under the Constitution, right? But their argument is do something in such a way that humiliates them and makes them not want the attention. Well, the dude that ran up on Dave Chappelle with a knife, like a fake gun with a knife in it, they broke his arms or his hand. I mean, that was cruel and unusual what they did to that guy. Well, he – You can say he had it coming and deserved it. I think you run up on stage at a guy with a knife, you're going to get your body broken.

But that's not cruel and unusual. Cruel and unusual is like a stockade, you know, like taking somebody – Chucking stones at someone all day. Yeah, or burying them up to their neck and then having everybody walk by and piss on him is cruel and unusual isn't it if you can if you can like hold them and secure them then if you kick them while they're down that's cruel and unusual this guy no no no that's not so uh you can argue cruelty if it's excessive but excessive force is not legal in the case of the guy with chapelle i think his arm got dislocated because they tackled him they like they all jumped up and pinned him and dropped him on the ground and his arm got messed up in the scuffle.

If you attack someone and someone is using force to stop you and you get hurt, that's not cruel and unusual. If we capture these people and then, like I said, you bury them up to their neck in dirt and then everyone can walk over and spit on them, that is cruel and unusual. People have argued for, like, one of the memes that goes around is a liberal guy who posted this, or people who post this, calling like, you know, tiny pee pee shooter and giving them these weird names so that forever in history they won't be known by their name but by an insult. I don't know if that actually would work, but I get the idea and I think they're scratching at the surface of the problem.

These people know that every politician, everyone's going to say their name. I'm not going to say this guy's name. I'm not going to mention him. I'm not going to say this guy's name. I'm not going to mention him. I'm not going to show his picture. But the media does all day, every day. And people tweet about him. And that's what they know they get. I'm reminded of the oubliette, the ancient Middle Ages punishment.

It was just basically a pit. And oubliette means to forget. And they would take criminals and they would throw them in the pit. And that was it. Never mentioned their name again. Maybe they got fed. Who knows? Yeah, well, that's one way to do it.

Jeez. It's harsh. That was rough. Yeah. I don't think it's coming back, though, unfortunately. I doubt it. Budweiser would probably sponsor it. Maybe.

Throw Sussman in the pit. Yeah, man. Let's do it. I don't know. Those people that, January 6th, there's people in solitary. I don't know if that's really an oubliette, but that's people in solitary. That's basically it. I mean, look, I was a public defender back in the day, and I argued for some of the worst people

in humanity because they need to due process. And the same thing. It's like, okay, should you have a bond? Shouldn't you have a bond? While you're waiting, trial presumed innocent. And look, whatever your political positions are in January 6th, and whether it should or shouldn't have happened, if you have a 60-year-old grandmother who has never committed a crime in solitary confinement or not given bond, there's something

wrong with that situation. That means the judiciary has been politicized. And you're a year on from January 6th and you have 50-plus people without bond, many in solitary confinement. All that does is makes them want to plead and get out. Plead guilty, not have the constitutional protections of due process and the presumption of innocence and the right to counsel. They just want to rack up political victories.

I think that's my interpretation of what this committee is doing. I think that the January 6th people is as close as you can get to cruel and unusual without jumping over the line in an obvious way. Keeping people locked up, keeping them in solitary, doing these things is like you mentioned. It's effectively torturing them.

So you can get them to just give up. And it's all politically motivated, too. So it causes people to not have any faith in the system, which ultimately is bad for the country as a whole. It's terrible. I mean, I've argued both sides, federal prosecutor, federal public defender. And I've just never seen any situation where you just blatantly chuck a bunch of people. I've gotten murderers and rapists out who were charged with those crimes on bond because it was the actual right thing to do based on the facts and the judge made a decision.

You have people here with no criminal history who didn't commit a violent act, and they're being held detained. I don't know if you – you've been following a lot of the trials i'd imagine with january 6th a couple of them so there were how many have there been have there been three or have we had more so far i think three total trials i got subpoenaed by the january 6th committee that's a whole nother story that cost me a fortune um but well so so we did a segment on here and uh i mentioned that for the people who just walked in the front doors that were opened by the cops, how are you going to charge them? How are you going to convict on trespassing when the cops open the door and say, come on in? For people who don't know about trespassing, you've got to give a warning.

If you don't have a sign on your property that says no trespassing, people can walk on your property. You can tell them to leave, but you've got to give them a warning first. If you have a sign, you don't need to give them a warning because the sign is the warning basically. So once they enter the property, you've got them on trespassing. The police can issue a charge. I brought that up. These young Turks, for instance, said I was stupid and I was wrong, and then what happens? We actually saw a guy get acquitted exactly on those grounds.

Yeah, because the Capitol building is a public free space. Americans can go in and out of there.. Americans can go in and out of there. Foreigners can go in and out of there. Literally almost any time of day. It's not trespassing. There's certain areas they can't go to. And the cops are on video opening the doors. Yeah.

Those guys need to be interrogated. So when we look at, I mean, man, when you look at what's going on with what happened in Texas, there's nothing that unifies this country. Right? So this thing happens and what do we get? What frustrates me the most,

I see posts from Democrat activists saying Republicans are spineless and they won't enact gun reform or things like that. There's a meme going viral where they're like, ban the AR-15. And I'm just sitting here like, none of these people have actually offered up any real

any real solutions they're not interested in having a conversation about any real solutions they are mindless drones saying ban the ar-15 is it is literally meaningless no it's like an assault rifle ban or you know uh or or shifting the other conversation from oh that's an automatic gun america doesn't allow the sale of automatic firearms and it doesn't it there is no there's no it does with tax stamps well right pre-1984 or whatever right no no but what i mean is okay it's like let's let's approach it from this point they've banned the ar-15 oh no and now everyone's using the ar-10 they've banned the ar-15 and my m1a or my scar 20s orS or like, come on, name a different gun.

They exist. They're coming out and they're like, they use this rifle. In many instances with these shootings, it's an AR-style rifle. And so they're saying, ban this. And I'm like, yo, you're just not saying anything. I would like to see a poll of people

and what they think AR stands for because I think a large percentage of Americans think it means automatic rifle. Yeah. Or assault rifle. Or assault rifle. And it means ArmaLite rifle, which is the company that created the thing. But they have no idea what they're talking about. They don't even Google it.

And so what do you get? You get David Hogg, right? He posts in April, like, I bet if I sat down with my critics, we would agree on things. And I tweet at him politely, like, hey, man, come on the show. We'd love to have you. We'll cover it. They don't respond and so i tried again he's got no obligation to respond to me mind you i'm not you know saying he has to but then he goes on with matt walsh he goes on with establishment personalities that are just playing to the

same audience there's no real conversation happening i look at that and i'm just like how could anyone believe that the path forward in this country is going to be unity? I just don't, I can't see it. Not anytime soon. Anytime soon, not even anytime late, to be honest. Until we get ripped apart,

until... We've got English to bond us, we've got the almighty dollar. I mean, it was basically a decentralized, it's a unification of states, which are all disunified, you could say, but unified under the idea of the constitution. We all follow the constitution for the most part. Constitutional law presides in every state. Those are the things that hold us. But our ideas never really were supposed to be the same or anything like that. Even religion, you're allowed to have your own religion. But they're not following the laws anymore. California, for instance, won't enforce immigration law,

and it's actually granted them an extra congressional seat and an extra electoral college vote because it's by population, not citizenry. So when you have states outright defying the union and federal laws, why would any other state be like, okay, now what do we get? We get Oklahoma being like, okay, we're going to ban abortion outright. We don't care what the Supreme Court says. That's where we're heading. And I think it is the rule, not the exception, that on the right there's a conversation around policy issues.

Ben Shapiro will yell, debate me, right? That's the meme. On the left, it's the exception. They don't debate. And if they try to, they have no idea what they're talking about. Well, it's fake. That's why you're not going to get a solution because they have political epithets that they throw out on any conversation. Gun control, abortion, whatever, immigration, drugs, whatever you want to talk about, but they don't have actual solutions. on the right they'll at least debate them and then try to find an answer like we do for the like we did under the trump administration for the border for the opioid crisis for illegal

immigration and for things like you know president trump actually you know reformed the criminal justice system more than any president in modern american history and people don't know that you know because he he a you know republican president was the one who did judicial reform which is crazy it's a crazy concept because it's not popular on the right but i thought he was doing the right thing and i thought it worked but it gets covered up because no one wants to talk about those things what did he do he did a lot of this is getting technical but a lot of alleviations of so when we sentence people to for drug crimes and they get sentenced unequally because of skin color or ethnic background, it sort of stacks up. So you can eliminate those rules and regulations.

You can give the judges more flexibility to reduce those types of sentences. And he basically undid the Biden 98 – what's it called? Crime bill. the biden 98 uh what's it called crime bill you know he you can't congress didn't veto it but you take out a lot of the minute minimum mandatory sentence requirements like grandmother gets found with a gun under her bed that she doesn't know is there and her nephew put it there you're going to send her up the creek for 10 years that's insane it's insane but it happens i've defended people that that this happened to and that's why you can't get any real actual true judicial reform without Congress. Mandatory minimums, in my opinion, is the stupidest thing.

It's crazy. Stupidest thing. I think our judicial system needs to be human. It's supposed to be. Judges are supposed to interpret the law. So you're supposed to have, like, grandma, how did you come across that snub nose? And she'll be like, I don't know. It's not mine.

Okay, well. Ten years. Well, no. It should be like we're seizing it. If you don't know where it came from and it's not yours, then it's ours now. Right. Don't let it happen again. Nobody got hurt.

Did the mandatory minimums come up because judges were giving people they knew like low sentences well they can't unless you unless you fix the law or unless you give the judges uh the ability to use this thing called the safety valve exception in federal court and they didn't have a lot of those tools but you also have to appoint judges who are going to do that who are going to see the way things that the tim just said exercise judicial discretion and that was a big part of the candidates of, not candidates, the appointees that Trump put into the federal judiciary is people who exercise discretion on the criminal side.

I can't speak for federal government, but I know that in Illinois, the mandatory minimums on say drug sentencing or burglary sentencing was to deter crime. So the idea was that a criminal would find out that the law was passed. No, they don't. They don't know. They don't care. They know they're going to jail if they get caught. So you end up with crazy stories. I remember one story was about a teenager who his neighbors went out of town. The neighbors asked this kid,

their next door neighbors, to keep an eye on the house the kid knowing they weren't there broke in the back door using the keys because he had the keys and he stole a beer cops driving by saw someone was in there knowing the people were out of town went in arrested him and then they were like this they said about this kid like okay we don't think he should be charged with anything severe maybe trespassing and the d.a was like no no no there's a there's a mandatory minimum for burglary he went in the property he took something he burglarized the property and so apparently like it was it was done it was four years and the the judge was like i don't want to do this but it's out of my hands it's it's statutory

and then the prisons were like there is no way we are taking a kid who took a beer to come here. And it was this huge legal battle. I don't exactly remember what happened, but this is a story I heard. I think it was like 18 years ago now, talking about it in Illinois. That's the problem with these things. Anyone can look at that and be like, kid, don't take beer from your neighbors. And the neighbors would have been like, oh, yeah, that's Johnny. Like, okay, we're fine with him taking a couple bucks.

Courts didn't care. They didn't see it that way those things are dumb so that was good the the crime reform stuff that trump had done yeah but the problem is overcorrection at least in the law enforcement area in the judiciary right drugs become a problem they overcorrect 20-year minimum mandatory sentences for if you're caught with this amount of this or this amount of that that's a lot of time that most people, like Tim said, don't know about. It's an overcorrection. Same thing with gun control, right? I think it's going to get to a point where there will be an overcorrection instead of the right correction because it will be political and not the one that people actually want, and it's going to get messy. What do you think would be the right correction or gun control? For gun control?

I mean, look, I'm a big two-way guy. I'm all for it. But I think while I agree that we have background checks, I think our background check system isn't good. It's run by the government, and it's not done the way it needs to be done. I mean, that is like the FBI runs it or ATF or whatever, right? But there can be a better system of screening,

take another day or two and build a better algorithm to screen out people with prior activities, prior hits, prior contacts with law enforcement, mental illness issues, things like that. People keep saying, oh, we have background checks. Well, you can have background checks if they suck. Then what's the point? That's step one. Do they suck?

I mean, the first time I went to buy guns, I was on the mandatory wait. I was delayed. Well, that's government. I mean, it's putting you on a wait list for the government to give you a response it's kind of standard operating i think there's there's a lot of good intentions in the background check system yeah i think reforming it would give you the exact same results really yeah it's government man you know there's there's some things i'm okay with when it comes to government but but I'm like, if it's not working now, what can we do to fix it?

Well, I certainly think it's worth looking at trying to fix, for sure. I just think it will devolve. It will start off really great, and then after a little while, it will start to break down. But I will say this. I'm in favor. I would actually agree. I'll kind of simmer down a little bit. I think one of the problems that we have with government is that we create a program and then walk away from it.

And then what happens is it starts to fester and rot. If we came back every couple of years and said, let's start it over and reassess, we could actually adapt. And if we're looking at our background checks through the NICs when you buy a gun and we're like, how is it not working? What can we do to make it work better? And then we just adapt and move what we're already doing. I think we could maybe improve it for sure. Let me ask you this. So what do you think the background checks that we have right now are missing?

Data. Hard data about contacts with law enforcement and individuals who have had run-ins with mental hospitals and mental health issues. That's one of the biggest things. And now that with the advent of social media, we're not capturing all the flags of these guys putting up – you can put up whatever you want on social media. Well, not on Twitter, but on Truth You Can. And you can say whatever you want, but if you're out there screaming with guns on social media about attacking someone that's that's got to be flagged somehow and that that algorithm has to be better to capture that data to give it to the government to put in that database to screen off because every one of these serial uh you know

massacres they all have one unifying uh connection and that is a mental health issue of some sort what sort of what sort of contact with law enforcement would you flag as being justified to remove somebody's constitutional rights? Yeah, that's a great question. So not just any contact, but if you had contact and the person was, appeared mentally ill, then you had them referred for mental health referral and balance check, then yeah, then that should be, when they go to buy a gun, I'm not saying they should be denied. I'm saying that information should be in the system so someone can go look at it and say,

okay, should we give this person a gun? Let's go check on him. Let's go pull all his social media. Let's go see what he's been saying. That's all. I'm not saying you can't get it, but it needs to be better. So it's like a type of red flag law is kind of what you're saying. I don't think it works, man.

I don't know. Look, it's not every, so you have to quantify mental illnesses. Yeah. It's not just any mental illness. And then you've got the issue of you're getting dangerously close to free speech. Yeah. People can post things, and then what? A background check gives arbitrary authority to some agency that's unseen to be like,

we just think this guy's no good. I already think it was bad that when I went to buy a weapon. We get death threats. I mean, we have these issues. I want to take care of myself, protect myself. I go to the gun store and they're like, fill out the forms. They said, you're delayed. We'll let you know. Why? I am a law abiding citizen. I have no history of mental illness. There's nothing on my record, but I get delayed. Now imagine they start using people's speech against them.

All of a sudden now people are having their constitutional rights curtailed but not even their constitutional rights, their God-given rights to defend themselves from some of these crazy people, from lunatics or just to keep and bear arms. I mean regardless, you have a right regardless of government in my opinion to do it. It gets dangerous when already there is, I think it's the FBI that does it, that does the national instant check system or whatever it's called.

It's already bad enough they could deny you and you don't know why. It happened to James O'Keefe. He got put on the list. Remember this? They just arbitrarily put him on the list and he couldn't buy a weapon. He had to file a lawsuit. Fortunately, he has the support to actually do that. This is why I don't know if there's actually a solution outside of cultural issues.

Because we can talk about all of these things we can do. But then you take a look at this dude in Texas. And first of all, how did he afford this $8,000 in weaponry, whatever? The money should have been a barrier, but it wasn't. Then he passes the background checks. What could have been done? The left says ban the AR-15. So then he buys an AK.

Yeah, that's not going to work. You're not saying anything. They say do background checks. He passed a background check. Do better background checks. And then what? Regular people all of a sudden can't defend themselves? Look, the end result of what the Democratic position is, I shouldn't say the left.

I apologize for that because leftists like guns. I got to correct myself they do they're big on guns the end result is just ban all guns that is the only thing and that even that won't work because 3d printed guns exist and you can make a gun out of out of a 3d printed material you don't need much metal other than the firing pin a thumbtack or something well even even in addition to that i mean we already have more guns in this country than we have people you think all those people are going to get rid of the guns because you pass a law? No, they're going to lose them in boating accidents. I mean, you think everybody who had a bump stock turned it in because the government said, nope, can't have it? Hey, and that was Trump.

And there was one jurisdiction where they had a thing where you could return. I don't know if it was a buyback or not, but they wanted you to return in your bump stocks. And out of the entire city, they got seven. Wow. Seven. What do you think happened to all the other ones? I heard somebody on Twitter, and they said, you know what we need? We need gun buybacks.

We need buybacks. Who's going to buy them? The government. And they said, no, no, they were like $5,000 per gun. And I was like, dude, I'll go to the gun store and buy a gun for a couple hundred bucks and then bring it in for five grand? Are you nuts? I guess their idea is like, yeah, then the government basically buys every gun from every gun store and there's no guns.

No, then people start 3D printing them and turning them in for five grand. Hey, it's ten bucks in plastic and now I got – it doesn't work, man. But that's the thing. They're already there. So all it's going to do is create a black market. Yeah, and then that's even worse. If somebody wants to find a gun, they're going to find a gun. If somebody wants to kill, they're going to find a way to kill.

So we've got to start addressing the cultural aspects of this and people's behavior. What's triggering people now that these young kids want to start slaughtering their classmates when this hasn't been a precedent in the United States until, what, 1999? We've had guns in the schools and guns in kids' hands since the 1800s. This is a very recent problem. I'm looking at the pharmaceutical industry and kids on Klonopin when they're 12 or 14. Buterin, Prozac, Adderall.

Adderall, my gosh, Adderall. It's an amphetamine. And then the kids don't have emotions. They never cried it out when they were 13 because they didn't feel it. And now they're lashing out like wild, mindless, or emotionless, rather. Giving kids amphetamines or SSRIs. Just all of this stuff that kids are being pumped full of.

And I also got to say, social media. We talk about the media aspect of this, how these shooters think they're going to get notoriety. But it's also, people were, I don't know much about this. Maybe you guys saw this where people on discord were apparently egging this guy on you see this stuff you know i've seen posts before people like you know do it you're a loser you won't do it and they try and egg them on that's not helpful it feels like it's so entrenched like i'm like okay you could homeschool your kids arm the teachers and take the kids off of psychoactive

pharmaceuticals but like that's like all right titanic you're about to hit the iceberg turn left like it sounds like first of all how in the hell are you going to do all that the pharmaceutical industry it feels like from my perspective that it's so entrenched in our in our existence at this point i don't know how many billion dollar industry it is and like the way pfizer just ran the covet response seemingly like they were in charge somehow a a corporation was in charge. I don't know how to get pharmaceuticals out of 12-year-olds' hands exactly. It's a scary reality, man.

You've got to educate the parents. But I'd be willing to bet that if you start talking about the pharmaceutical role and what's been happening in this country, the dramatic spike, I'd be willing to bet this, maybe I'm wrong, there is going to be a visible correlation between the increase in medicating children and the increase in violent outbursts, general violence, and maybe mass shootings or things like this, general violence, because I think the drugs are messing kids up. But if you start talking about that, you know that Big Pharma is funding all of these networks.

They're not going to say it. You know, have you ever seen that meme where it's like you know local news brought to you by pfizer it's like cnn brought to you by pfizer and abc and all that stuff yeah yeah you you're not going to be on one of these big networks bad mouthing the pharmaceutical companies or scaring or scaring parents odd because it is i mean it's got to be the pharmaceutical it's got to be the drugs it's got to be psychoactive drugs and the 14 15 year old kids what else i mean it's got to be the pharmaceuticals. It's got to be the drugs. It's got to be psychoactive drugs and the 14-, 15-year-old kids. I mean, it's driving them insane. I don't know if it has to be.

I think it plays a role. I think social media plays a huge role, man. I think it's a combination of factors, but what frustrates me the most is that for many people on the left, their only response is to want to confiscate guns and— Wait. Liberals. Liberals. Excuse me. Excuse me. Liberals.

Is to curtail the civil rights, to curtail the constitutional rights of people who have committed no crime at all. We have some – so if we're looking at a scale of things that are reasonable versus not reasonable, it seems that would be very reasonable to suggest, hey, why don't we lock down our schools and have a single point of entry, single point of exit, and a security guard? That's something very easy that we could do. That's something that would be incredibly cost effective given how much money we spend on other things like $40 billion to Ukraine. And every single time we propose a common sense solution, they dig their heels into the ground and they say no. Their only answer is gun control. Yeah. Gun control doesn't do anything.

I'm really concerned about, I think you mentioned red flag laws earlier and if someone has a medical marijuana card and the government has it scheduled as a narcotic for some freaking reason. You're out. This is really messed up. If you have a medical marijuana card you can't get a gun. As I currently stand by.

Can't get a handgun in Venice. I remember I was in California and I was skating in Venice. And there are these guys that stand outside of these shops. And they're all like, yo, yo, weed card, weed card, weed card. And I'm skating. And the dude goes, bro, bro, bro, come here, come here. And I was like, I stopped. What up? And he goes, you got your weed card yet? And then I was like,

what do I need a weed card for? And he's like, oh, medical marijuana, dude. He's like, you got to get medical marijuana, man. And then I was like, I don't need it. And he goes, oh no, you got something. You got to talk to the doctor, man. You don't know until you talk to the doctor. And then I was like, I'm healthy and I got nothing wrong with me. And he goes, you skateboard, your feet hurt. And I was like, I mean, sometimes like, oh dude, you need weed. You got to come and talk to the doctor, five bucks. I got my medical card in San Francisco and they're like, so what's the problem? sometimes, like, oh, dude, you need weed. You've got to come and talk to the doctor. Five bucks. I got my medical card in San Francisco, and they're like, so what's the problem? I was like, I'm stressed.

He was like, what's stressing you out? I was like, the Federal Reserve has a monopoly on our monitoring system. And the guy was like, signed. He just gave it to me. But now you can't get a gun. Well, not in California. I don't know. Maybe not in California.

I don't have my license anymore, but I don't know how those laws work. It's crazy. Yeah, I don't know how absolute it is. It might be if, like, you're a current user, those cards can disqualify you. Yeah, it's a Maryland. Yeah. It's got a handgun. If you have a card, you see what they do.

Wow. And how many people were like, oh, yeah, I'll get a card. It's five bucks. I might not use it. And boom, now it's like you've got to put that on the form and they're going to deny you. The background check form you fill out asks you if you've used drugs. So what? But not alcohol?

It doesn't mention alcohol or it doesn't mention pharmaceuticals either? Well, hold on. It does mention alcohol. The good news is there is an exemption, okay, if you're Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden. Yeah. You just got to toss your illegally purchased firearm into a dumpster afterwards. So for those that don't know, he lied on his form

and then his wife did it or something? She threw it in a garbage can? Dumpster behind a school. So insanely illegal. Yeah, behind a school. So insanely illegal. Oh, man. And then Joe Biden comes out and he's like, I care about this.

No, you don't. Arrest your kid and then we'll talk. No, no, Joe Biden, while this was going down, he was on another network giving a speech or something unrelated to this. Just flip the roles. If there was a school shooting massacre and Donald Trump didn't stop everything he was doing, rightly so, and shift to the school shooting, stop whatever event he was at. But Joe Biden, like you said, he doesn't care.

He was out reading some teleprompter somewhere while 20 children just got murdered. If he really cared, you stop and you get your ass down to Texas and you say, I'm here. I care. He didn't go to Waukesha. He didn't go to Waukesha. He didn't go to Waukesha. He's like, oh, I'm busy. And then what does he do? He comes out and he's like, we're deer.

We're in Kevlar. It's like, dude, are you hunting deer with handguns? What do you mean by this? I'm sorry. They're not saying anything. They're not saying this. I genuinely want the violence to stop. I want to solve this, okay?

And so I am not a gun expert, but I know a little bit more than the average person, and I own several. And so having been to the range, having talked with instructors, having been given instruction, having learned about the laws and having to deal with it myself, I'm like, hmm, interesting. And then every single liberal that I talk to about this will say something that makes no sense. Like there was that famous news video, I think it was CNN, I'm not sure, they said fully semi-automatic, not a thing. They think silencers are pew, pew, pew.

They've never actually heard what it's oppressing. They've watched a movie and pew, pew. They think these things. And then it's just fascinating when they say ban the AR-15, and I'm like, you're not saying anything. How do we? I don't know how to solve this, man.

If you can't actually engage. I made a tweet about it. I said, with all of the death and destruction, it's time to do the only logical thing and implement gun policy based on the opinions of people who've never handled or researched guns. That's right. The Democratic Party. Yeah.

There you go. So I'm glad we solved the 2A issue tonight. Yeah, perfect. So I just, I'm at the point now when they come out with these emotional attacks or whatever, I'm just like, I literally don't care. You're not going to come to me, and I'm tired of playing this, and I'm not going to pander to anybody i'm not going to be you know you know what's really funny is every single time everyone addresses a school shooter they go deep into this psychopath this deranged person we get it like ted cruz is talking to a journalist and he's like this this psychotic this psychopath and

i'm like that's what everybody does and it's predictable they this, but we all know no one is going to – no one in good faith is going to be like, Ted Cruz didn't think the person was crazy. We know these people are crazy. We all get that. But it's going to be tough to find a solution when one party has no vested interest or no real interest in actually resolving the issue. They just want gun control.

So it's hard to have an honest conversation. They're never going to come to the table and accept the fact or publicize the fact that 89% of all gun deaths in the United States are due to gang violence and suicides. You know, school shootings are an incredibly rare event. Gun deaths in general, outside of suicides and gang violence, are an incredibly rare event. But given how the media covers it, you'd think that we have a crisis of mass proportions in the United States. Even if you look at it on a per capita basis, deaths per 100,000, the United States doesn't even rank in the top ten for mass shootings. Yeah, and it's mostly with handguns. Most mass shootings are handguns.

And we never talk about Chicago. And this is another – it's like a cliché response you'll get from a lot of people, especially on the right. But I get it. You know, look, kids dying is a shock to the system. I understand why we talk about that for sure. But we do have mass shootings all the time in Chicago, in Baltimore, in Detroit, in these cities. No one seems to care about them. So I guess black lives don't really matter to them, huh?

Well, did you see that video where the guy walks up to the hospital where everyone's got the signs and he says, do black lives matter? And they're like, yes. And he's like, what about the babies that are being aborted? He's like, yeah, I didn't think so. So I certainly think when they call Candace Owens a white supremacist,

these are not serious people. When Larry Elder is the black face of white supremacy, these are not serious people. When Larry Elder is the black face of white supremacy, these are not serious people. Yo, I would love to solve these problems and move this country forward, but it's seemingly impossible. Now, I'll fully recognize there are people on the right who are just as bad,

but the thought leaders within the right are having the conversations. People like, I'll just shout out, Ben Shapiro's got one of the biggest podcasts in the world. He is a conservative. He is a very mainstream, traditional conservative, orthodox Jew. And he is all about having conversations

with people. Why not have those conversations? Some people do. But when we try and invite prominent people on the left, they won't do it. They won't have these conversations. And when I try to engage with them, they don't have the answers. They don't have these conversations. And when I try to engage with them, they don't have the answers. They don't have any proposals that make sense. There's something about the arrogance

that we see with the establishment Democrats and don't get me wrong, the uniparty Republicans along with them where there's almost no interest in getting anything done. Let's jump to this next story though while we're talking about getting nothing done. This is actually something getting done, actually.

Timcast.com reports Oklahoma governor signs law banning abortion from moment of conception. This is interesting. They crafted this abortion ban off of liberal arguments, leftist arguments. They say House Bill 4327 went into effect immediately upon signing and bans abortion unless the procedure is necessary to save the life of the mother or is the result of rape, sexual assault, or incest that has been reported to law enforcement. Removing a miscarried fetus or ectopic pregnancy will not be considered abortion. There it is. Every argument from the left has been addressed. Yeah, it's brilliant.

It basically bans elective abortion. That's it. This is the only state brilliant. It basically bans elective abortion. That's it. This is the only state in the nation to have banned elective abortion. Most, I believe there is maybe like a dozen or two states that have elective abortion to the point of viability or at viability, meaning the baby can survive. And then you have seven states plus Washington, D.C. that allow you to abort a baby at nine months. Now, hold on. I can already hear the liberals screaming. seven states plus Washington, D.C. that allow you to abort a baby at nine months. Now, hold on. I can already hear the liberals screaming. I did not say it is a common occurrence. That is not my point. My point is it is illegal. And so it happens sometimes. I don't care if it's rare, if it's not an issue and it's not happening all the time. Why is it legal? Why should it be

allowed? Additionally, as for this law, this appears to be the majority opinion of this country, that people want abortion to be legal only in certain circumstances. Well, here it is. This is what Oklahoma's done, right? I thought that, maybe I'm wrong, Roe v. Wade, does that not protect, or does that not say that the states cannot ban abortion? It certainly does. So how is this guy signing a bill that bans it? The same way that California doesn't enforce immigration laws.

Whoa. That's right. Sanctuary status. They're a sanctuary state, and they will not cooperate or work with federal law enforcement. You know, I respect the state's rights to do that. It's not even about if I agree with it or not. I respect that that's how the United States works.

That's pretty cool. Yeah, I absolutely don't. No? I do not. You don't like that governors can go rogue? not i respect that that's how the united states works that's pretty cool yeah i i i absolutely don't i did not you don't like the governors can go rogue i don't like the governors can go rogue they got to because desantis man he he he was like a beacon during the covid pandemic florida thrived sure there's differences between florida being like we're not going to agree with agree with federal guidelines on a lot of these things and we're going to run our state the way we want is another thing when at a federal level, when it comes to things like illegal immigration or slavery or abortion,

we're like there are certain things that this country has made illegal. Now, the reason why I don't like it is if you look at what California has done, by not enforcing immigration law, they inflate their population to a certain degree, and then congressional seats are apportioned based on population size. And electoral college. And electoral college means California got an extra vote in the presidency. So when people say illegal immigrants vote, let me correct you.

They do not individually go out and vote, but it doesn't matter. We elect our president through the electoral college. They don't need to vote. Their presence grants an extra vote to California. California lost a vote, I think, due to the last census. But before this, constantly just allowing people to come in, granting them free health care, they're putting a strain on the surrounding states. And imagine you are Nevada or Idaho or Arizona, and you've got people going into

California, staying there in violation of the law, and then they can cross over from the from the West into your state that's already dealing with a border crisis. That's an issue for other states that's infringing upon those states' rights. This is the kind of issue that literally resulted in the Civil War. The South, they had slaves slaves and they said the north should abide by federal law right well the federal law had the fugitive slave act and the north was not abiding by it i mean i that i agree with that i i think the problem uh i think slavery shouldn't should have been uh abolished the issue for the south though was that if the federal government

was not going to be able to enforce these laws then why should there be a union at all well there you go well that's the issue it's the federal government so you know the 10th amendment reserve power state should be able to do all these things x y and z that are not granted in the constitution of the federal government so i think a hybrid of what you guys are saying is sort of workable the problem with the sanctuary state staying on the immigration issue is that it's not being enforced like the federal government could go and enforce the law in california they are electing not to do that they are electing to break their own federal our own federal statutes that's my problem because they agree with the policy decision in california that overrides a federal statute someone should be going to jail on this and enforcing this law and

allowing our immigration authorities to go in there and not do that. But the thing, the way they work it is they basically go into all the jails when illegal immigrants come over and make first contact with law enforcement and the ICE detainers aren't applied. They're just like, we're not doing it. We are literally, we, California, are not doing it. It's a federal offense. Someone should go prosecute the governor. I suppose, you know, we can say this, too. Just looking back on what I literally said, it's an issue of our personal morals and world views as to what we think is fair and acceptable. Yeah, because weed, for instance, California was like, it's legal here, and the feds aren't going to, we're going to protect you from the feds.

That was basically, and then the feds were like, all right, they proved their point. We're not messing with California anymore. No, that's not true. Well, for the most part. Yeah, I think Obama to protect you from the feds. That was basically, and then the feds were like, all right, they proved their point. We're not messing with California anymore. No, that's not true. Well, for the most part. Yeah. I think Obama was like sending the troops. Kind of. The DA was storming.

It laxed. When I was there in 2006, it was very dangerous to have a weed card. But then by 2010, it was totally cool. There are some instances, I suppose. I think the illegal immigration issue is probably what I mostly disagree with and I think maybe the states asserting themselves is probably a good thing so maybe I'll walk back a little bit the thing about the illegal immigration is that it affects the entirety of the country in a very serious negative way politically it it actually takes congressional seats from somewhere

else and gives it to a state so So it's almost like stealing influence. Whereas the weed thing is not that big of a deal. And like I was just saying, when the North was refusing to return slaves, that was a good thing. The North saying, screw you, we don't care about your law. Okay, that I agree with. So maybe there are positions where the states should,

say, screw off to the federal government. Could the federal government just refuse to acknowledge the population growth of California if they know that there's illegal immigration? Well, that's what the Trump administration tried to do with how they were doing the census back in 2020. They wanted to not include illegal aliens. Right. So that's the whole point of the census.

It goes to the Electoral College and a couple other things. But that's what he tried to do, that the census was basically saying you're counting them wrong. You're counting illegal people in the census census and the census is supposed to count americans because we only have x amount of electoral votes there's no new ones it's not like you're getting another one like tim said i think what most people don't get is it's not like california got a plus one and everybody else stayed the same somebody lost one that's the problem that was a matter that trump was trying to take on. He's like, why should they lose one if their population is remaining the same and another population is increasing with illegally present individuals?

That was the heart of the matter. And they didn't want to show who was legal. They didn't want people coming in and being like, show me your papers because they thought it was Nazi Germany and people would get arrested, families would get broken up, and that's why there was so much resistance to it yeah i i i think that uh that's a lie like i i think they know exactly what they're doing who's it like california yeah oh yeah for sure they do and so but they'll come out and be like it's racist it's easy it's easy to say it right it's like and it works you know all the headlines everybody's a racist if you're not for

illegal immigration i'm for legal immigration and I'm just not for illegal immigrants wrecking our society. What's your ethnic background? Indian. So you're the Indian face of white supremacy. Yeah, I'm brown lives matter. Oh, yeah. How do regular people fall for that stuff, right? Calling Larry Elder the black face of white supremacy is just nuts.

But it's just easy. It's just an easy epithet that's meaningless. And it's like we were talking about earlier. It doesn't solve anything. No one's having an actual conversation. They're just like, oh, that sounds cool. Let me go blast it on social media and get popular. It's used so much now, though, that it's lost all of its meaning.

Yeah, I think it's Roman supremacy. And we talk about empires and how empires fall. But the Roman Empire is still so heavily entrenched, the Roman Catholic Church, the Roman, I don't know where else you want to go with it. Why the Romans? The Roman Empire. We're basically the vestige of the Roman Empire right now. The Roman Catholic Church is basically the Holy Roman Empire that lasted for another

thousand years after the Roman Empire fell apart. Maybe a little too derivative. I mean, if you want to go back, you can keep going back beyond that and talk about all the other cultures. The Romans were pretty unique in history. We talk about white supremacy. It's really Roman supremacy. The slavish state of the Roman Empire.

I don't agree. I'm seeing a lot of that tonight. What's in your water? I mean, the Europeans were... It's an amalgamation of the Roman. It fractured. They all became their kind of similar but different cultures. Then we got colonization.

It's a really interesting history. It's fascinating. The Roman Empire breaks up. Then you get all these countries emerge, sharing a language in some ways and not in others. Then they go off and colonize other areas, compete with each other, going to war. It is pretty crazy. Yeah, they took Germany, France, and Spain in Italy, the Romans, and then, of course, the Empire. But I just think there is a majority privilege.

I think when you look to any country, the people who look mostly like each other typically are more likely to work with each other. In China, they're all racist to people who aren't Chinese. So these things, they happen. But to blindly just come out when someone has a legitimate critique or political concept and to insult them as racist, to say simultaneously that only white people can be racist, but Candace Owens is a white supremacist, I'm just kind of like, you lost me, because I don't think you're actually saying words anymore. I think it's just a cult.

Well, I'm not a racist. I'm just a genocidal dictator. Remember, they skipped the racist thing. Yeah, the Daily Beast said that. So, you know, I wonder what it feels like to be called a racist. I don't know. You think we're all a little racist? Small r?

Racist? I think that you're right more that it's more about familiarity bias. feels like to be called a racist i think you think we're all a little racist small r racist i think that you're right more that it's more about familiarity bias people aren't necessarily racist just whatever you've been around my family first yeah when my family first came here my dad his eight brothers and sisters and their wives or husbands and their kids in one you know one place i don't know that we were racist but they didn't know the world they they hung out with indian people not because they didn't want to hang out with other people. They just didn't know what the heck to do. My mother wore sari to the grocery store for 10 years because you know what else to wear.

I would like to go on record and just say I hate everybody equally. That's smart. There you go. There you go. Let's just totally jump onto a different subject. I want to talk about what's going on with Sussman, the Clinton campaign and all that stuff. So we have this story from CNN and it's

from May 17th. Just something to kick things off. Prosecutors say Clinton campaign lawyer tried to manipulate the FBI with Trump-Russia tip at first Durham, as first Durham trial opens. So we've heard a lot about this, the trial of Sussman,

Michael Sussman. Do you want to break down what this is all about? What's the elevator pitch on this story for people who aren't familiar with what's going on right now? Let me give you the triangle. The quick and dirty is, it's all up for free at DurhamWatch.com on FightWithCash. You can literally get everything I'm about to tell you.

All the documents, you can read them yourselves. All the transcripts, all the judicial pleadings and everything over at DurhamWatch.com. But here's the triangle. Democratic Party under Hillary Clinton is running for But here's the triangle, okay, right? Democratic Party under Hillary Clinton is running for president, and they're like, okay, we are going to do a couple of things. We are going to run two lines of effort to take out then-candidate Trump.

We are going to use the FBI to do it. We're going to use the media to do it. And then Hillary Clinton is going to be the third piece of that triangle, their campaign. So the Steele dossier, we've talked about that in the show before, the hired help from overseas to filtering unverified information to the FBI, the FBI knowingly lying to a federal court to surveil Donald Trump. And of course, the Hillary Clinton campaign funded that entire thing. We know that, we proved that in the Russia investigation. John Durham's next indictment after this one is the Denchenko case he's trying in the fall is the Christopher Steele source, the takedown of that line of effort one. Line of effort two was the Hillary Clinton campaign on a parallel track running, let's just call it the Alphabank server deal, right?

Because it's just easier to quantify that. That's what Sussman's on trial for. Michael Sussman was one of the head lawyers for the Hillary Clinton campaign at this law firm, Perkins Coie, right? Hillary Clinton campaign paid them $50 to $100 million for services. They took that money and doled it out to people like Fusion GPS, Christopher Steele, and the Alpha Bank server. This parallel track, what are they doing on this? They said, okay, the Steele dossier route isn't enough.

We need a backup. So they went out and hired this tech guy, Rodney Jaffe, okay, and basically said, we need you to go find a connection between Trump and Russia. And here's what we want you to do. Get technical. Get us computer details that show Trump Tower is connected to Russia through this bank, right? So they're fabricating a narrative. Literally. And what's come out in this trial is exactly that.

The information was taken to the FBI and the FBI said the next day they knew it was false. That's what the agent testified to during this case. And so Russiagate should have stopped immediately. Well, Russiagate should have stopped but it didn't because you had a couple of corrupt FBI cops, Comey, McCabe,

Strzok, this Hyde guy, who were running the whole thing. But not only were they running it internally, they were running it with the media. What came out in this trial is all these guys at Michael Sussman, Fusion GPS, Hillary Clinton, they were all meeting with the media. They were sending Christopher Steele to meet with the media. They were sending Rodney Joffe to meet with the media. Why? Circular reporting. The FBI is like, oh, look, look what CNN's publishing. Must be true. we have a source that says that here's the kicker of the whole thing both christopher steel and rodney jaffe fbi sources the entire time and they both got fired why for leaking to the

media but here's what the fbi did they kept taking their intel to prosecute their case against donald trump once he became president so it is a it is the biggest criminal enterprise in u.s history from my perspective as a former federal prosecutor i'm probably biased because the russiagate you know living through that um you know running that investigation but it's a story that needs to be told and i i think the only way going to sort of the accountability portion because you can run constitutional oversight in Congress and we got 17 people fired, including Comey. And that, okay, that's a start. What John Durham has done is basically

mobilized this thing and said, okay, I'm going to take some people out with indictments. So the Russia collusion narrative is false. 100%. We learned that with the end of the Mueller probe right away that it was a lot of nonsense. He said it too, yeah. But you, I think you along with Devin Nunes, you had a report basically a year before the

end of the Mueller probe, I think it was. So we've consistently learned that something was just not true in all of this. But now we actually have in the investigation that from the get-go, FBI knew it was not true, a lot of this information. Did Hillary Clinton directly know what they were doing in terms of fabricating the narrative? And here's the kicker. Just real quick. Yes, she did?

Yeah, she did. She did. But the kicker is we knew it. We were able to prove it with classified information documents that were coming in slowly, but we couldn't tell the world. What happens now? Hillary Clinton's campaign manager from 2016, Robbie Mook, testifies for the defense in the Sussman prosecution and literally testifies under oath and says, oh, yeah, Hillary Clinton not only knew about it, acceded to it and directed us to go and leak this bogus intel to the media. Wow. That's the most damning statement to come out of this trial.

Watergate on steroids, huh? Yeah, man. And I think the trial wraps up tomorrow. And, you know, look, if people want to understand Russiagate, you need to do two things. Go read the Nunes memo, which we wrote. Four pages. It'll take you 12 minutes. Take 90 minutes to your life and go watch the plot against the president.

Is there some kind of like's how do i describe this is is there is there for is there some reason why the people who believed this are the same people who believe jesse smollett yeah look the one unifying factor on all of this the one the one thing that threw the fbi's top level off and became total partisan hacks was their unified hatred for Donald Trump. That's what it was. It has corrupted our law enforcement industry from just the top level. The main guys, they're great. But here's the thing.

The cast of characters that read the Hillary Clinton email investigation, the server thing, same FBI agents involved in this case and the Steele dossier. Trump derangement syndrome. Why do they dislike him so much? That I don't know. I mean, honestly, I can't can't answer that question i have no idea but it's never been an issue i served in democratic justice departments the republican justice you just did the mission you're just like this is a job this is easy this is a fun part go put bad guys away they were just like nope king comey was in there hillary quinn and the media. And they were basically like, we are going to take out Trump. And then once he won, they were like, okay, we screwed that up, but we're still going

to take him out. And they continued a bogus investigation. Do you have any idea how much taxpayer money it costs to run these investigations? Do you have any idea? It's hundreds of millions of dollars to do this kind of surveillance work on a target. It's insane. And it was all bogus. Now, how much of this is normal politics? Do to do this kind of surveillance work on a target. It's insane. And it was all bogus. Now, how much of this is normal politics?

Do they do this all the time? No, no. This is crazy. I mean, this is that FISA court, the special court, whatever you want to call it. I used to do it to manhunt terrorists. That's what it's for, to protect the nation. It's not for a political campaign to come in and say, we're going to create a national security issue. And, oh, by the way, the target's my political opponent so why isn't hillary clinton in jail man prove so look proving that is

going to be very hard that she um broke a federal law now what you can do and what john durham's doing i think is building a conspiracy case behind these indictments because he said in federal court in writing on his pleadings he said judge there's a joint venture conspiracy it's a legal term what does that mean he's like judge he said that to the judge oh yeah it's it's on durhamwatch.com go get the pleading wow it's his under oath statement basically that's what a pleading is to a federal judge and he's saying not only is rodney joffrey the tech giant the tech guy a target of my investigation but i am looking at multiple people in the media. I'm

interrogating FBI agents who worked on this case and also people on the Hillary Clinton campaign. He can't name those people, but he can give them my title. And he's telling the world I'm conducting a criminal conspiracy investigation because this didn't happen with one or two people. So two-part question for you. So what needs to happen, in your opinion, to restore faith in these institutions? And then what happens to the country if that faith in these institutions isn't restored? What happens is you see a continuation of what's going on right now. And it doesn't just trickle into just the political sphere. It trickles into everything when they're talking about is the FBI doing the work across the country to reduce crime, whatever type, murder, guns,

narco-trafficking, human trafficking. Everybody loses faith in their ability just to do those few things. And then we're just completely screwed. But the fix is the manpower, right? Whoever runs these agencies, you have to go find that guy. And Chris Wray is definitely not that guy. The guy that's running it now, he's almost as bad as Comey because he's allowed this entire thing to go on for four or five years now. And unless you get rid of these guys, but the political leadership doesn't want to.

And this is the problem I have with my DOJ, my former place of work. They always champion themselves as being like, we're apolitical. We are historically apart. We don't take our orders from the president. Well, you actually do. And you allowed a presidential political candidate to give you your orders and to pay you and to pay for corruption to take over the top level of the FBI. And you need accountability. You need some of those people to be convicted in federal court. That's a piece of it.

Then you need to put the right people in place. I'm kind of disillusioned, to be honest. I know. You know, when the email thing was going on, I love how to, you know, most Democrats, it's a joke. You know, they have a meme where they amongst themselves will say, but her emails, whenever something crazy happens, but her emails. And I'm like, dude, yeah, like someone working in public office destroyed public records. That's crazy. They don't care.

I know. destroyed public records that's crazy they don't care i know it's it like dude if it my attitude is i was always a trump's not that bad kind of guy like i didn't vote for him the first time voted for him the second time because i just joe biden was just so awful and i liked it i liked the second term agenda but i was always like very early on when trump was running and everyone's screaming about screaming about him i was always yeah, but Trump's not that bad. I mean, like, this is crazy. He's worse than Hitler. What are you talking about? Calm down, dude.

Well, I think part of the problem people have is the double standard. I read a story about a naval officer. He was on a submarine and took a photo of where he worked, his sub, in a hallway, nothing classified, just to show his kid. And it got out that he had taken this photo, and because it's all classified, they indicted him. He was prosecuted. I think he did a little bit of jail time for one single photo that wasn't exposing anything sensitive at all.

Meanwhile, you have Hillary Clinton, who had a private server with God knows how many emails, what, 30,000 emails on it. And not only was all of this classified information, and information that was born classified on this server, but this server was exposed to other nations. And we had vulnerabilities to where she had vulnerabilities to where all of this documentation was available to China, to Russia, to people who could weaponize that information against the United States.

So when people look at those two circumstances, you've got a guy who just wanted to show a picture to his kid. You did jail time, and then this offense, and absolutely nothing is going to happen to this person. I could see how the country would be disillusioned in thinking that we're basically a banana republic, where if you're a certain part of the political class if you come from a certain pedigree then you're above the law and the rest of us just have to to deal with wasn't wasn't there some guy who

went on reddit and he was like i need to figure out how to delete emails from a vip do you know about this story for hillary clinton server yeah oh yeah there was like smack literally smashing of servers there's people like googling how to delete stuff. There was a guy using hammers on phones. But there was one story. I don't know if it's verified or whatever, but someone apparently – this is the story. So somebody went on Reddit and said, I need to find a way to remove someone from a bunch of emails. They're very VIP. And then once the – so it was like it was an old post.

Someone found it. And they were like, yo, I think this is the guy who works for Hillary who is posting this. And then once the email – so it was like it was an old post. Someone found it. And they were like, yo, I think this is the guy who works for Hillary who is posting this. So it's an old story. I don't know the full details on it. But there was tons of stuff like that, at the very least, the smashing cell phones and the hammer. But, yeah. It doesn't do anything.

It's stupid. But it's funny. It's the double standard. When I saw Hillary's emails released to the public through WikiLeaks and I read about Sidney Blumenthal talking to her, like so many emails between her and Sidney Blumenthal and his company, Osprey Global Solutions. They're like, Hillary, you know, when we get into Libya, we're going to set up Osprey to run guns basically for this new puppet government that you're going to set up. So she's like, all right, Sid. And she sends it over to her whoever, her manager or assistant or going to set up. So she's like, all right, Sid, and she sends it over to whoever, her manager or assistant or whatever to read these. So she basically took us to war to set her buddy up with an arms deal.

So I read that. I was like, well, logic dictates I will not vote for that. I no longer support that. Maybe it's always been that corrupt, but, I mean, there's some sunshine. Let's throw some shade at the media real quick one of my favorite moments was when i think it was in the 2016 debates trump says hillary clinton at acid washed her server and nbc news issued a fact check saying false hillary clinton did not put a corrosive chemical on her computer and it was like what what that's not that's not what trump

was saying that's got to be the onion. Who did that? Yeah, NBC News. It might have been NBC. That's just a piece of it. That's part of the problem. You're saying, how do you fix it? I forgot to address it. I don't know if you can. I don't know what's easier to fix. I think, personally, I could go in and fix the FBI

in five months. I don't know how you fix the media. You guys are the experts there. How do you get the ability for five years, half the and half of america thinks russiagate and donald trump actually colluded with russia they are now finally starting to pull back those stories because of these prosecutions but how do you stop them from they they knew the facts back then they just didn't want to report it check this out can we pull this up can we get it it says the claim trump says clinton acid washed her email servers the truth clinton's team used an app called bleach bit she did not use a corrosive chemical no nbc news fact check welcome to the modern media my friends

amazing and that's the problem and how do you fix that i don't know the answer to that i don't know how you fix the media i think that's a harder fix than the government. Better media. Let's talk about one thing is Truth Social. Heck yeah. So I have Truth Social here, and this is what my Truth Social dashboard looks like. So when Cash got here, you mentioned truth. You were like truthing something. I think the branding is bad, by the way, like truthing it.

I don't know. But I just got to be honest. All right. I was thinking confirm could be a good one. I will confirm it. And then how many confirmations did you get? That would be cool. You should have just shouted that out when Trump was on the phone before the show.

Yo, Trump, get better branding. I heard a great meme. They were like, Trump should have called it Kafefe. Everyone would have wanted the Kafefe app. Like, I got to get it. It would have been Trump's. So you mentioned getting truth social. And I got to be honest engagement is nuts it's crazy people on truth social because i was ragging on it a while ago because it was like locked up and nobody was

using it trump wasn't even on it now it's flowing i went i went and looked at it and all of a sudden i have like all of these i posted something nonsensical and i get all these crazy you know comments and i start looking at other users and seeing this massive engagement that I didn't see before. So before the show, you mentioned – I'm like, I don't have an iPhone. And you were like, just pull up on the browser. And I was like, you can do that now? Pulled up on the browser and there it is. Now I can use it in my browser or whatever.

So Truth Social actually has substantial engagement. I mean you were mentioning – you got how many followers? 600,000 and I'm not even like that. 600,000 followers. And it was at the same time Elon Musk was announcing he was going to buy Twitter. Truth, social spikes in the App Store. So I'll tell you this. This seems to be, it's almost like, I don't know, a snowball rolling down a hill,

something that's actually competing with these big tech Silicon Valley platforms. What I find interesting is the timing of Elon Musk wanting to come in and buy Twitter something that's actually competing with these big tech silicon valley platforms what i find interesting is the timing of elon musk wanting to come in and buy twitter at a time when truth social is coming out and basically getting all of these trump supporting populist types to join the platform if there's one thing that could potentially stop that it's elon musk coming in pulling twitter back i wonder how much of this was elon. He said it, that people are leaving to Truth Social because of the censorship. I wonder if he was like, I can make money if I stop that and bring these people back. Maybe.

I mean, I don't know what's going to happen on that Twitter deal. But I have to say, as a disclosure, I'm a member of the board of directors for TMTG that owns Truth Social. So, no, they don't pay me. I just get to do more work for free but uh but basically what actually i want to why you have your picture up tim so tim and i i don't think everybody knows this we are having a a times square billboard off oh yes i literally have a plot against the king billboard along with a covet jab billboard right next to tim's billboard but it's mine's only 30 feet, not 70 feet. So you won

this round. But we did it for the same reason. We wanted to go into the lion's den and be like, why can't we blast out? Last week, we did a whole billboard on Russiagate and Durhamwatch.com. This week, we're selling the book, The Plot Against the King. Why not? And it's like you said, I don't know that's going to generate a lot of business, but the point is we're there. Oh, here's what I want to point out, too. When you look at this image, I want you all to understand. Here's the billboard. Okay.

And you may be wondering, Tim, okay, you got yourself a billboard. That's cool. But like, what's culture jamming about? It's like, what's, you just got a billboard, right? So I talked about how we never spent any money on marketing for this show until now. That's right. And we want to do culture jamming as marketing. Ladies and gentlemen, this is above the ABC News building.

You can see right here, ABC News, ESPN, with all their fancy marketing and everything, and I am on top. Let's jam. So many of these blue check journalists, most of them probably don't care. Some of them are probably fans. They're probably like, cool.

But some of these snooty people, these corporate press, these shills on these morning shows, they get to walk in in the morning and look up at who's on top of their building. So it is a simple message to the elites that you are not the elites anymore. These people who think they're the best, they're the smartest, they're the strongest. No, no, no, no. We are coming. We are asserting ourselves in this space.

I was excited for this one. I didn't know it was going to go up so early it was supposed to go up in four days but they put it up early so it's good and that's why we also like gave a nod to Truth Social on one of these billboards

that we're doing the last week or the next week and I got to bring up how we brought the beginning of the show again so yes I did agree and I did ask President Trump to go on Tim Pool Timcast

and he did say yes he said it was the greatest show everyone agrees at least that's what he was told. That's what I said. But there was a bargain in place. I'm challenging the TimCasters to go out and buy as many copies of The Plot Against the King as they can because if they push through, then I'm going to work my tail off to make sure that TimCast with Trump actually happens.

That was the quid pro quo. That's an actual quid pro quo. I'll advertise it as that. Hell yeah, man. Where can people buy it? Theplotagainsttheking.com. There you go. Nice.

Very easy. It's Russia Gate for kids. It's Russia Gate for kids. How can you not want to read this story? Adults should read this story. It's super fun. There's pictures. I can read it.

It's at my level. I got through the first page already. I liked it. When you were talking to Trump, I could sort of hear some of it. And I'm like, it has to be fake because it was so perfectly Trump. Oh, man. It sounds like a recording of him. Cash comes in here and he presses play on a video.

I'm not going to – I'm talking to Trump. I swear. Do it now. I can get him on your show. Just sell books for me. And then it's like just a video of Trump. That's a quid pro quo. I ain't got to make up for 16 years of being poor in government and educated children.

I remember Regarding Truth, it had a rocky start because they used Mastodon code, but it's what they had to – it was a free software license code. I don't know what they used exactly, what the licensing code was. But they were supposed to show the software code because they were reusing it, and they didn't. And that really bothered me and set me off. But the upside is it's using Mastodon code, which means we can federate the thing and create interoperability between networks. So if you're logged into Mines or

Truth Social or Twitter, if we can get a hold of Twitter's software licensing codes, you'll be able to message someone on Truth Social from your Twitter account and vice versa and create a network of networks. I think Truth will be a great part of that. Does this tie into graphene? I'm into that. I have some right here. Would you like

to tie it into graphene? I think we're going to start using graphene wiring. Everybody's been ragging on Ian because they're saying borophene is the future and he's living 20 years in the past. It's the fene. It's the structure that's important, not necessarily the carbon itself, although carbon's pretty cool because if you have this hexagonal lattice

structure, nanostructure of like a monoatomic layer of chemicals. Apparently, boron's equally as cool as carbon. What do you use that for? Dude, touchscreen wallpaper. You can make clothing that's touchscreen, supercapacitor battery. Your clothing can be batteries. You're like back to the future.

I think Donald can run on this stuff because this is going to be the industry of the 21st century. It's going to be the new steel. People are going to be making buildings out of it, wiring out of it, touchscreen, all of this. And if he can bring enough scientists around to create the greatest graphene, like if we can make the greatest graphene production facility on earth in the United States. I have an idea.

Why don't we get, when Donald Trump, Devin Nunes and myself do a Timcast live from one of his properties, we have it sponsored by Graphene and we put it on Truth Social and then everybody went. We'll find a company that makes it. We need to start something in the United States that builds it. Check this out. I bought stock. I bought stock in a company that makes Graphene because Ian wouldn't shut up about it.

It's one of my only stocks that's still up despite the marketing. In 2029, we're going to see peak implementation of this stuff. The problem is the copper industry. It doesn't want to lose their wiring monopoly. Big copper! So that's going to be a challenge to disrupt the copper industry, but we'll be able to repurpose the copper, I think.

You can deposit carbon dioxide, I believe, onto copper and create graphene out of it. You can actually pull carbon dioxide out of the air and turn it into graphene. This guy is dialed in. He is. You know what would be really funny? It's like we do a show with Trump, and then Ian starts going off on graphene. This guy's dialed in. He is. You know what would be really funny? It's like we do a show with Trump, and then Ian starts going off on graphene, and then Trump just gets zoned in and is like,

tell me more. And then just like all of a sudden, Trump's doing pressers, he's speaking, and he's running for office, and he's just all about graphene. The future, the new manufacturing, the new steel, we're going to bring all these jobs. Ian is sitting there, you know, just he retires because he knows he's done everything he needs to do.

It's nothing left. We'll be able to pull carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere to kind of balance out the carbon emission type thing. But we're going to have to be careful that we don't pull too much out too fast and set up an industry that sucks it all out because we'll begin competing with trees. We are going to name you the ambassador for graphene. Let's do it, baby. We can help a lot of people. We're a graphene czar, if you prefer. We can build a space elevator.

It's better than the disinformation czar. Just call me Ian. 2024, the votes come in. Ian gets on the phone and says, I want that position as graphene czar. I was promised. Yeah. Give me the graphene.

I just want to go to space. Graphene ballots. Graphene ballots. Dude, we can build them. With watermarks. Well, so the original idea was like, what I wanted to bring up with Truth Social was that it's allowing people

to maintain their conversations. Twitter was trying to silence people. YouTube's trying to silence people. They're trying to control the narrative to a degree where I was talking to this guy. I think we're planning on having him on the show. His name is Mike Benz. So the goal of national security officers and things like this and big tech is to censor just enough so you can make your opponents politically ineffective but not silenced because they know that if you censor people, you get a backlash. So they want just a little bit, just enough to where they get a head start in the race. Truth Social is basically cutting that off.

People are able to go back on and follow Trump once again. And people are posting and sharing what he says. And I'm seeing journalists. When Trump re-truthed the words civil war, mainstream press was forced to talk about it. And that puts Truth Social front and center. The more he does that, the more they're forced to talk about it. And that's why he's never going back to Twitter. I mean that and the fact that he owns the company but people keep asking

me that and i'm like no he's not going back on any other platform he doesn't want back on youtube or twitter i don't even know what the other ones are called but his this is going to be it let's either you know and i think it's going to succeed and if you look at the bots we were talking about dn and i before right yeah well what elon has done is basically proven the concept that Devin and I proved on the side of Russiagate. Is Twitter suppressing free speech and are there bots? The answer to both of those questions was affirmative, for sure. Elon has finally put those facts out for the mainstream media and forced them to take them on. Up to 50% bots, that's a lot. And also the freedom of speech suppression. We can't get that kind of campaign out. But he's proven that.

And now they have to address it. Now they hate him for it. And now the fact that he said he's voting Republican, I think they're going to come after him pretty hard. But if you can build a company on Truth Social that has 15 million, 20 million people by the end of the year or something like that, that's a company that's legit, half as big as Twitter.

How many users do you know? How many users on TruthStory? I know that I think President Trump has like 4 million or something like that. So just do some math. Maybe there's 4 to 7 on there right now. I bet everybody's following Trump. So he's got 3.1 million followers.

But the engagement is massive. No, it's massive. Take a look at the New York Times on Twitter. Nobody retweets. So I can certainly say, I never tweet at the New York Times on Twitter. Nobody retweets. So I can certainly say, like, I never, like, tweet at the New York Times. There's no conversation there. So when people are like, no one's responding to them, I'm like, yeah, who cares? But nobody's even retweeting their stories.

Because I do retweet stories. When I see a big story, I'll be like, oh, you know. I basically retweet so that I can come back later and look through the stories that I was seeing. But people don't even do that for the New York Times. I just put out a truth on the car ride over here for my handle, at Cash, for your I was saying I was coming on TimCast. Thousands of people in the car ride

on the way over were responding to that, like physically writing and responding and re-truthing and re-posting that I was doing the show. And there was conversations from both sides. Oh, I hate you, Cash. I love Tim. I hate Tim. Actually, Cash sucks. And so that's what you want. That's the whole point. And it's human beings engaging

and it's fun. And the funnest part is these things called pinata farms. I don't know if you guys have seen these, but they take real-life movies and they stick your heads on them. So there's one of like me and Trump perp-walking Hillary Clinton out of a detention center. And it's just built into the platform?

Yeah, the company has just built it into this thing and now it's all over the place. And it's just built into the platform? Well, there's a, yeah, this company has just built it into this thing and now it's all over the place and it's for anything and everything. It's hilarious. It's like the beginning of deep fakes. They're going to, people are going to. But you can tell. It's like a joke.

It's like an oversized head on like a smaller box. Oh, okay. Truth social is like. Jib jab, yeah. Yeah. Or the reface app. Yeah.

Covfefe is trending. Of course. I just think truth is the perfect, like, it's so Trumpian, calling it truth. Yeah, truth is subjective. Like, what one person believes is true, another person might see differently and think that it's not true. But we're both looking at the same thing. Well, it's a quote of an evolution. We have the fake news, and now we have truth.

It's like dark to light. It's the yin and the yang. I love that, how they tried using fake news against Trump, and then Trump turned it around against them. It was brilliant. You are fake news. Yeah. It was part of the counterintel operation we ran for the last five years. I wanted Joe Biden to go and spend a half a million dollars coming up with Ultra Maga.

Then I was going to have President Trump release my book on truth social, The Plot Against the King, the very next day. And we've had the most successful book launch. I can't believe they did the ultra MAGA thing. They said that the data shows middle America, like suburban people, don't like MAGA. And so that's why they're going for it. But what they never understood, it just shows they never understood the MAGA people, the Trump supporters, the right. Trump got memed into office. People were posting jokes.

They were having a laugh. They were having a good time. The picture – you ever see that picture where Trump is on a tank? It's like a golden tank or something. He's like standing. He's like an eagle. It's all funny. It's just like supposed to be crazy.

Or Trump's face as Rocky Balboa with like ripped body and everything. And they think it's real. They're like, these Trump people are in a cult. No, they're joking. I was picturing him coming out on stage,ald and being like ultra maga and then like the fireworks shoot out behind them but people would love it but then i think the media like rachel maddow would get afraid because they'd be like oh it's ultra maga is real like i don't know because i want to have fun with it it's hilarious the ultra maga Hey, you know why I don't read the New York Times and why I don't repost New York Times? It's because I've got to pay money to

read their articles. Whenever I go to a New York Times article, I can't get past the first paragraph, so I just give up on it and move on. I don't read it because I'm suing them for defamation. Oh, good. What did they say? Them, Politico, and CNN called me Trump's Ukraine whisperer and

injected me into an impeachment fiasco. And I said, OK, what's that based on? Like, was there a meeting? Do you have a witness? And if you remember, that clown Fiona Hill came in and said, oh, Cash Patel, Ukraine whisperer. And then under oath in front of the world during the impeachment trial, Fiona Hill goes, well, I've never met Cash. We've never spoken. And I don't really know him.

Well, then how am I the guy? So I'm suing them all. That's what Fight With Cash is all about. That's my attempt to fix the media is we're raising money. We're actually suing on behalf of other American citizens who have been defamed. We cut the check for their lawyers. We've just been talking about this all week. We need to take cases that may not win just because it's the right thing to do.

You got to sue Wikipedia. No, no. I'm on it. We talked about this. You are. It's the next one. It's the right thing to do. You've got to sue Wikipedia. No, no, I'm on it. We talked about this. You are? It's the next one. It's the next one. Have you heard what I was saying about it in the past few episodes? No, I remember our conversation about it.

I was talking to a lawyer recently and they were like, you can't sue Wikipedia. They're protected by Section 230. You can maybe sue the editors who made the statements. I'm like, let's think about this for a second. Wikipedia, actually, do I have this? I have National Firearms Act pulled up. We'll just use this as an example.

It says, from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. That's a byline. They've asserted it is from them and no one else. So let's talk about how Wikipedia works. If you write on Wikipedia, Kash Patel is a lawyer. That's true, right? Or was a lawyer? Yeah, was.

I guess still technically, but haven't done anything with it. Is a lawyer. Yeah. That's a fact statement. What if someone then goes in and edits and changes lawyer to dog kicker? No one called you a dog kicker. The person who wrote the first sentence called you a lawyer, so you can't sue him. The person who wrote the single hyphenated word dog kicker never said Kash Patel is.

He just wrote one word. Well, you can't sue him, can you? He didn't say anything. The first guy didn't say anything. And Wikipedia searched protection under Section 230. That can't make sense. No, it doesn't. And that's why.

So that's literally what fightwithkash.com is doing. I have a Wikipedia page that is literally 50% false. And so my lawyers got together and were like, no, we can actually take them on. And they found a way to do this. And once we go public, I'll tell you how we're going to do it. But the whole point is not for me to start suing. The whole point is to get everybody else to start suing. And we've created lawsuits for other Americans who have been defamed by crazy outlets, things like Wikipedia and whatnot.

And we're just going to keep hammering it. That's the whole point. That's my attempt to fix the media. I don't know if it's going to work. Is it like class action suits or is it actually a bunch of different individuals? Every individual. Anywhere can go to the website and literally be like, here's my case summary. We'll look at it for free.

If there's a cause of action, we're going to march into court and give you a check. They go to fightwithcash.com and then sign up to do that. That's awesome. Nice. It doesn't cost them anything. I mean, if they know rich donors, we always take those. But I personally review every single message that comes in. Is it a 501c3?

Yeah. You know what I'm mostly mad about is that Wikipedia for a long time claimed I invented a live-streaming Zeppelin. That would be cool. Which I didn't do. And when I went there and wrote, hey, this is not true, like remove this, they said you cannot be a source to this article because you are Tim Pool and you are biased. So we're leaving in that you invented a Zeppelin. And I got mad.

After a few years, they got rid of it. And then I said, you know what? I'm going to do it. And so then we built a live streaming Zeppelin, put it up in the air with a Let's Go Brandon flag on it, and then I said, you know, I didn't go to Wikipedia, but I say to the world, okay, now that it's true, put it back. I have retroactively

made that true, and they won't do it. Really? Yeah, they won't put it back. It's like locked. Art imitates life. Well, I don't know where the original source that, it's like, it's funny that it can, it can sit there for years. And now I actually did it.

We flew this. We got like a ton of views when we did it too. So it was like, you know, hundreds of thousands of people saw it. Come on. We did it. Take the video, use it as a source and say, Tim did make a live streaming Zeppelin. Come on. I don't know.

I don't like Wikipedia. I used to be a big fan. I hate them. I like the concept. It just doesn't, it's too like easy to game, it feels like right now. It's too easy. It's a ton of fake news. I tried to explain Hillary's emails, for instance, on Wikipedia.

I was like, I'll make an edit so that I can tell people about Sydney's Osprey Global Solutions and Osprey Global Solutions. And after I did it, within like eight seconds, it was removed. I was like, well, but that was true information, and now it was removed. It's because – Who controls content on Wikipedia? Aren't there only a handful of editors on any page? Anybody can edit, but you can earn privileges. So some people have more power than others.

When you go to high-profile accounts, there's going to be a firm that has editor access that's going to control. So what do you got to do to earn that access? Lie a lot. Yeah. It's probably – I don't know how Wikipedia works with it. I think it's like a certain amount of time and edits made earns you more and more status or whatever. Yep. A lot of fake news, a lot of lies, and it's because the people who dedicate their time to that, for the most part,

there are some good editors and there are a lot of bad editors. It is companies that are paid, and there's going to be a tendency towards establishment if that's the case. Let's go to Super Chats. My friends, if you have not already would you kindly smash the like button subscribe to this channel share the video with all of your friends and head over to timcast.com become a member we're gonna have a members only show coming up at 11 p.m or so let's read what we got here woot do for you says each of the cops should be charged with malice murder of a minor uh AC Your says this is murder.

Wow. Roberto Lara says the police and politicians keep proving Michael Malice right. Wow. That one's brutal. Yeah. Michael Malice's quote, I'm not going to get it right, but he basically said, what is it? Can you say it? Do you know it?

I don't know right off hand. It's like there is no law so obscene that a police officer would not enforce it up and including executing children or something like that. Up to and including, yeah. I like the way they phrase that. It's bad. Well, yeah, true. Right, just following orders. Like at some point the cops you would think would be like this is just wrong. This is wrong. We need

to disobey these orders and go in there and seize. I mean, if it was war, they would. They went in for their kids. They're like I don't care what my orders are. My kid's in there. All right. Murph Tries says, Cash, are you still going to be doing Flannel Friday during the summer months? So you know what that's from, right?

This is hilarious. On Truth Social, there's a Q account. Whether or not it's the real Q, I'm not going to get into. But me and said person were running around South Florida, and we took a picture of my sleeve and a beer in front of it. And we posted a truth that said, at cash, having a beer with Q. And it turned into Flannel Fridays because I was having this beer, and I was wearing a flannel shirt. And now it's this massive thing online. Now the memes have gotten out of control.

But, yeah, we can do Flannel Fridays for you. Memes are good. Flannel's nice. It's comfy. We can do ones on Friday. James 296 says, just a correction for yesterday's video. Red velvet does not have a specific flavor, but it is a process to make a cake have a velvet texture upon eating.

Nice. The red is just the food coloring. Awesome. Huh. So nobody knows. Interesting. It's vanilla and chocolate? Well, if it is the texture, then putting it into an ice cream would completely remove

the whole component of the cake. Oh, good point. I need to look into this. I just don't like they put all that food coloring. Yes, it's gross. Why don't we call it blue velvet? Yeah, you got to use like beet juice or something to make it red. Yeah, that'd be better.

Yeah, yeah. Beet juice is sweet too, isn't it? Yeah. Russell Smedjkel says, hey, Donald better. Yeah, yeah. It'd be just as sweet, too, isn't it? Yeah. Russell Smedjko says, Hey, Donald Trump, thanks for watching. Hope to see you. Thanks, Tom. I'm sure Trump is watching right now.

Now, he's probably watching Tucker or something. Is Tucker on right now? Nine o'clock, Sean. Hannity. Oh, okay. Well, then, yeah, no. All right. Corey Cole says,

In the case of Civil War, how do you think we would be mobilized? Would some sort of conservative leader arise, or would we just be fighting against a sort of government campaign to take rural areas? Curious your thoughts. I think the structure of this country makes it so that it's very much going to be like

it very much will likely be as the first Civil War was. States just being like like yes or no but if you look at any other civil war it's just disparate factions fighting in the streets it'll be you and your house when all of a sudden someone shows up and you're like i don't know who that is and maybe it'll be like you'll see an antifa flag or something or some a variety of leftist flags and you might just be like okay they're not my friends yeah no idea um we mentioned how robert reich said that the states there's going to be a peaceful divorce effectively because of

abortion issues and i'm like yeah that is what starts civil war when a bunch of states are like we're going to go our own way and then one group says but we get those weapons the other side says no you don't and then they fight for them and then fight for everything. That's how it happens, man. Placid Saint says the shooter had a $2,000 rifle with a $700 EOTech optic. Gale defense rifles and parts are top tier gear stuff that I use for my Gucci SBR rifle. Where did this kid get all that money from? Yeah. Somebody hooked him up.

He said they used to bully him for his family being poor and then he has this ridiculous equipment i don't know really weird somebody hooked him up that's creepy yeah all right yeah jk ermit riley says tim to be fair there is a good reason to prevent emotionally armed people from storming a school with innocence crossfire friendly It's a good point. I agree with that. Yeah, I agree with that. But why didn't the police go in? Yeah, exactly.

That's the argument. If she was able to go in, why didn't the police themselves just go in and do what they needed to do to handle business? Regarding where that kid got his weaponry, last night I was thinking about false flags and getting countries to go to war for something that didn't actually happen. Not that that shooting was a false flag, but that we should be on guard for something like that in the coming years. Because if they really want to mobilize us into some European conflict or Taiwanese conflict or whatever, you see the amount, like the Gulf of Tonkin, for instance, the amount of destruction that people are willing to wreak in order to get people to support a war, more destruction. So be on guard for that kind

of thing and don't jump to conclusions. Yeah, Russia and China are masters at it. They do this all the time, psyops, all day long. And if you don't look out for them, which has to be a priority of an administration to catch and suss through that, then we're going to be more vulnerable.

All right, man. Let's read some more. Bobcat says, Would you kindly tell us who is John Galt? Also, AI doesn't really exist. All we have are long lists of if-else statements. To be AI, it has to understand the concept of maybe.

How do you make maybe? Quantum computing, when it can be a one and a zero at the same moment. Interesting. Sanity Clause says, Stop sending your children to these indoctrination camps no more school shootings no more indoctrination it's a twofer forget defund the police defund public schools so on like 2 a.m on the 25th i tweeted homeschool your kids which was not a reference to anything at all it was just like homeschool your kids because i was not a reference to anything at all. It was just like, homeschool your kids, because I've tweeted it before. I say it on the show.

The Independent took that and said it was an argument to stop school shootings. And I was like, I never said anything about school shootings. I said, homeschool your kids. Civil War. Yeah. There's a story about a Norwegian guy who took a bow and arrow and started shooting people with it. So I posted the story, just a screenshot of it. I said nothing. I made no argument. And people were like, this argument is dumb, Tim. What you don't understand is, and I was like, bro, I didn't

make an argument. I just posted a news story, man. Calm down. People are crazy. They, they, people are living this bubble world. And this is literally the meme where it's like, you can say on Twitter, I like pancakes and they'll be like, why do you hate waffles? And you're like, I, I didn't say anything about waffles, man. I like waffles too. Dude, calm down. All right. Gavin Deeth says, kindergarten cop reboot.

Liberal teacher pew-pews little Timmy for anti-trans statement. Oh, yikes. Some people, yeah, I don't think, I don't know if giving teachers guns to try and solve the problem solves the problem. But I think people should have guns, which would mean teachers would have guns. Yeah, I thought, Adrian, you made a good point that if they want to and they're trained in it, then they probably should have access to it. I mean, are you making the argument that the situation this week would have turned out – wouldn't have turned out differently had that teacher in that room been armed? No, no.

I'm saying as a direct solution, like walking up to a teacher and being like, here's a gun, get ready to use it, I don't think is a solution. But if a teacher has a background and they go through training and they say, I would like to carry, and there is a student who comes in with a weapon

and attempts a mass shooting in that teacher's classroom. No, I agree with you. Are they going to be better or worse off if the teacher's armed? They're going to be better off if the teacher's armed. What I'm saying is, to approach the situation right now, like, look at this problem we're facing. The solution is give a teacher a gun. I'm like, no, no, no.

The solution to the problem is figuring out our cultural issues. Teachers should be armed, and it would end these situations, but you still have the problem of someone storming into a school with a weapon. Yeah, it wouldn't stop them from happening. It might be able to stop them from resolving the way that it did. Yeah. Two things can be true at the same time, though. I think it could deter certain actions, but I think there's also an activity.

You'll just get someone who will conceal their actions or target teachers first. I think teachers should be armed. I think regular people should be armed. I think the 2A exists for a reason. I think the solution is cultural. I think regular people should be armed. I think the 2A exists for a reason. I think the solution is cultural. I think if teachers are armed, they're better off. I think the solution is some kind of cultural assessment. Like we mentioned, drugs and social media addictions and manipulation.

I think mostly the drugs, to be honest. I think that stuff's warping kids' minds. That and weird groomers on the internet. That's true, too. All right. Matthew Reckamp says to quote stephen crowder what do you think would be more effective at stopping a school shooter a sign with a picture of a gun with a line over it or a turret a turret well hold on hold on definitely in some circumstances you could beat the guy with the sign yeah two all right yeah that's actually a man you know you can't do those kind of jokes

on youtube but i think you know i'm into the dark comedy where it's like racist no no no just like stopping a school shooting by someone taking a gun free zone sign and beating the perpetrator with it to stop them it's like what do i do it's like this will work just got turned into a cartoon that'll be totally acceptable. Yeah, Seamus. Yeah. I don't know if Seamus would want to do that. That one's a little too dark. All right. Dakota Dad says, you're going to need an army to stop me from getting my kids.

I will stop at absolutely nothing and run through. I don't care who to make sure they're okay. That's right. You see that video of the guy running into the burning building to save his dog? Yeah. This is crazy. The fire's in. Have see that video of the guy running into the burning building to save his dog? Yeah. You know, this is crazy. The fire's in... Have you guys ever been

next to a burning building? No, actually. It's hot. It's hot. And that's an understatement. People don't get this. Because you see a fire, you've maybe been around a campfire,

and you're thinking, like, oh, okay, you can't... So when I was in Ferguson, and they burned all those buildings on West Florissant, driving in the car, in the car with the air on and everything, when you drive past these buildings that are maybe even 50 to 100 feet away, it feels like there's a campfire right in front of your face. The heat is so intense. So when you walk up – it's unbearable to even walk up to the building. This dude runs in to get his dog. And you see the firefighters are like, dude, what?

He comes out. His legs are, like, burned up. Love it. Yeah, he's not going to leave his dog in there, man. Now imagine what it's going to be like if your kids are in a building with a shooter. This dad got tasered. Dude. Worth it.

Crazy, man. All right. Salty Duckling says, Cash since you've got 45's number please push him to abolish the atf when he wins in 24 that's it's a thought we'll think about it it's just another federal agency doing work that other federal agencies already do it's an overcorrection i made a tweet and i trolled mostly i guess mostly It was funny. The gun people liked it. I said, let me just see. I'll just read what I said. I said, Did you know the National Firearms

Act codified a path to owning silencers and automatic rifles? Repeal the NFA now! Spineless GOP won't do it. Call your member of Congress and tell them repeal the NFA now. Is that true? All of that is true. Spineless GOP won't repeal the NFA now. Is that true? All of that is true. Amazing.

Spineless GOP won't repeal the NFA. That's true. That's true. It did codify a path to owning silencers and automatic rifles, restricting access to them, but still codifying a path to get it. And it was funny because the gun people, my favorite response was, dude, if this works. Like all the liberals being like, yeah, repeal the NFA. But a bunch of conservatives were like, you're wrong on this one, Tim. Also, it's not called a silencer, it's a suppressor. And I'm

just like, whoosh. You're missing everything. Right over their heads. Let's read some more Super Chats. I got your back. Alright, let's grab some more. Andy Welsh says, check out the magic card for Oubliette. It's perfect. Is that how you pronounce it? Yeah, Oubliette. It's perfect. Is that how you pronounce it?

Was it? Yeah, Oubliette. Oubliette. MTG. It's a dungeon. It's like a skeleton. What does it do? Remove a creature from the game?

From the game until the Oubliette's removed from play, I believe. It's an old card from Arabian Nights. Let me see if I can pull it up. Yeah, I believe it's... They've remade that card so many times. When Oubliette enters the battlefield, Tark Creature phases out until Oubliette leaves the battlefield. Oh, you know, Ian, I've got to tell you a funny story. So this guy, I was tweeting, right?

And this guy's tweeting at me, like telling me I'm wrong and all this stuff about politics. And then it turns out in his profile he plays Magic. So I tweeted at him, my Kiki-Jiki deck would obliterate you. And he said, doubt? Can you believe it? That's love. Doubt? No way.

Kiki-Jiki deck would obliterate you. That's right. And it's not your fault. The deck is OP. It's busted. Like 99% of people are like, we have no idea what they just said. We're talking about a strategy card game. And I'm making a joke.

There you go. Let's read some more Super Chats. It was funny because it was true. It's funny because someone thought they could beat my commander deck. It's possible. Never going to happen. It is a crazy deck. Alright. Kalashnikov. Kalashnikov. No, it was pretty bad. It's never going to happen. It is a crazy deck. All right. Kalashnikov.

Kalashnikov. What is it? Kalashnikov. I'm a God-fearing conservative, but if you gave me a thin blue line flag and a pride flag, a box of matches

and a cup of gasoline, the thin blue line is getting torched first. Huh. Whoa. Mood. First, though, remember that video

where they were throwing the flag on the ground and stomping on it? People are not happy, man. All right. Ben Hickson says, if Americans give up their guns, then they will have unarmed protesters being shot with rubber bullets by a war memorial after being in lockdown for over 200 days. Watch Battleground Melbourne on YouTube for the recount. Wow. So I tweeted, I'm going to buy more guns.

And then someone responded. They were like, as an Australian, I'm curious, why do you need more guns? And someone responded, so that we don't get sent to quarantine camps when we get a sickness with a 99.8% survival rate or something like that. And then people started quoting it and posting it. William Andrews says, live in Maryland with my anti-gun wife who found my rifle and armor. I said if bad guys have this, then I will too.

Think of our kids. Went pretty well. That's fair. Nice. That's fair. Oh yeah. John Esch says, my sister is a socialist and she's arguing with me about guns and taxes. I'm a libertarian believing in individual responsibility and personal responsibility. Please say why gun laws don't work so most of the leftists including socialists are pro-gun there is the socialist rifle association is a leftist pro-gun

organization if you are claiming to be a leftist and you are not you are anti-gun, you are not a leftist because Karl Marx said, under no pretext, should the workers surrender arms and ammunition, all efforts should be, I'm paraphrasing now because I don't know if it's a full quote, should be frustrated by force if necessary. That's Karl Marx. I agree.

Fully. Do not give up your weapons. So you should definitely look into that quote from Karl Marx because he said it outright. Gun laws don't work for several reasons. In Maryland, they've banned the M1A, for instance. They have not banned the SCAR-20S. The SCAR-20S is a modern.308, and the M1A is a much older model. It makes no sense why they would do that.

When people come out and say things like ban the ar-15 it's like okay well have you ever watched slugfest ksg 25 with minis mini mini shells or whatever and they have like 41 shells in this pump action shotgun these people don't know what they're talking about you would have to outright ban all guns and then you have to contend with 3d printed guns which can be fully plastic except for the firing pin. And I'm probably wrong about that too because they've probably got advancements at this point that I don't even know about. So people can buy a 3D printer for $300,

buy some materials, and just print a gun. What are you going to ban? It's not working. Guns exist. In the Netherlands, in Europe, they have a 3D printed gun issue where people are just printing them. Good luck.

They got a grenade problem in Sweden from the – I can't remember. There was a – what was it? The Balkan – I don't know. They have grenades. Right. It was like an organization. No, no, no. There was a – A war.

Yeah, it was the Balkan Wars or whatever. Eastern European War. Something like that. There's grenades all over the place. Those are illegal. Murder is illegal. Yeah. People still doing it.

That's crazy. Criminals don't respect the law. That's also crazy. That's wrong. They should make it illegal. Yeah. They should make murder illegal. Maybe that'll stop it.

Being criminal illegal. All right. The Great Treasures says, Long-time listener, first-time caller, when you get President Trump on, you should definitely record the entire show for your website so when YouTube inevitably deletes it, we can still see it.

We love you in Wisconsin. That is the plan as always. And I don't know. Maybe we do it on Rumble or something. Yeah, probably. If YouTube does not want our business, I respect their decision. And it'll be our biggest show ever. But if YouTube wants to want our business I respect their decision and it'll be our biggest show ever but if YouTube

wants to say to us like look if YouTube comes to me and says look we don't want you to interview Trump and have a massive show then I'll say hey no problem guys we'll do it on Rumble that's cool that's why it's so important to have these alternatives that's why we use Rumble infrastructure for our website so that we can make sure YouTube knows, hey, no problem, no beef.

We'll go use the other platform where they'll get all the traffic and the views and make all the money. That's cool. You guys, if you don't want to be culturally relevant, that's fine. That's fine. All right. Charles Kinsey says, hey, Tim, how do you feel about making a

commercial with veterans and ex-cops asking the parents to let us protect our children and precious resource? I don't know. I guess I feel neutrally about it. I'm not sure what the intent is. Sounds cool. Maybe.

Carl Ashby says, Tim, check out the shooting in Charleston, West Virginia last night. Armed party goer shoots and kills active shooter no one else harmed. Wow. In Charleston? That's not that far away. It's decently far away from us, but, you know, relatively close.

Crazy. Did you look it up? Yeah, I'm looking at it now. I haven't seen anything yet. This is why you don't mess around in West Virginia. It's a constitutional carry state, which the crazy thing is Texas is now too, but maybe Texas hasn't been constitutional carry long enough. Looks like shooting victim pulled an assault rifle at a party.

And that one is, that's what it says from msn.com. Yeah. What is that? Assault rifle. What is it? A 50 BMG at a party? I don't think so. He could have an M16, you know, an NFA select fire rifle.

That was the headline, the vague headline. And then one has been detained from that. Woman stops gunman at party. So maybe That was the headline. The vague headline. And then one has been detained from that. Woman stops gunman at party. So maybe it was a girl. Brad Matuszak. Matuszak says, can you get Steve Kerr on

and dunk on him, please? Steve, you recently came out and said you want the Congress to pass HRA to create background checks. We already have background checks, dude. So unless you are talking about reforming like Cash did,

just being like, why don't they pass background checks? Because we already did. Oh, it's so frustrating. Every time I go and I got to fill out that stupid form, because these people have no idea what they're talking about. I love it when I went to the March for Our Lives, there were people saying things like ban fully automatic weapons. And I was like, so I would ask them, I'm like,

so you do know that for the most part they have been. Like you can't get a new one and you need special privileges. I'm like, oh, really? And I'm like, do you know what you're protesting? I met one guy who knew what he was protesting. And we had a good conversation about it. I was like, okay, this guy knows what he's talking about. He's got bad opinions.

I don't know. I don't like his opinions. He's got them. But at least he was informed. But almost all of them were holding up signs that were, like, meaningless. They were like, we want background checks now. And I'm like, eh. Well, then they talk about the gun show loophole.

But I'm like, have you ever been to a gun show and tried to get a firearm? Like, every seller has a little kiosk set up where they still run you through the next system even if you need a gun show. Yep to get a firearm? Every seller has a little kiosk set up where they still run you through the next system even if you need a gun show. Yep. It's a loophole. What they're talking about is that in West Virginia you can sell to a family member and that you assume responsibility if they have certain issues

or you assume liability. If Cletus wants to sell a rifle to Billy Joe up in the mountains five hours from civilization because there's a bear problem or something. No, no, no. They've got to drive to an FFL in a major city and then do the transfer there. So that's what they're talking about?

I don't think that's what they're talking about. That's not a good faith argument. That makes no sense. They just don't know that we already have the NICS system. There you go. American Gun Chick says, Cash's solution of using social media posts to determine someone's eligibility for their

Second Amendment rights sounds like the start to a social credit score. That's a hard no for me, dog. I guess you're not buying a book. She should buy the book anyway. They didn't say that. The plot against the king. Yeah, I'm kind of with that person.

What I was just thinking about is pre-thought pre-crime that whole thing of like did you think a violent thought when you were nine well let's check the records of the neural net yes you're no longer access to stepping outside on thursdays like come on i mean then you're gonna get some like creepy old guy who's gonna be like do you hear that yeah i grew up to hear the pitter patter of winter feet no because the precogs can't see a thing you know that you know minority minority report that yeah i do out here the pitta patra of which defeat no because the precogs can't see a thing you know that you know minority minority report yeah yeah i like that movie it's cool but yeah that reform you know has to happen on both sides in order to work not just

on the screener side but the people implementing it in the government side have to be trained on how to do that the right way and not put tim pool on a waiting list because he's to pull i like you know in that movie minority report i like the idea of pre-crime. I don't like how they executed it. If somebody was going to commit a murder in that movie, you get life in prison, basically. They put you in this thing and they put you in a tube or whatever. It's like, dude, if someone's going to commit a crime, you stop it and then say, we can tell if you're going to do it again.

And then they won't. In the movie, most of it was passion. People losing their cool and there was almost no premeditated murder because they had precogs, psychics who could basically see if you were going to commit a murder.

But then they would come in and like tag you and then drag you away and be like, you're done, even if you didn't commit a crime. It's like, if you can dispatch a crew

to stop the murder from happening, congratulations. Now it's like, it was a passion murder. We can, don't do it. And if the person is going to do it again, you can see it, and you can prevent it. So, like, anyway, good movie, though. Good movie.

Let's grab some more superchats. Vic says, not many people talk about the specificity of the profile of a school shooter. Absent father, childhood trauma, social isolation, and pharmaceutical drugs. Yeah. Yep. That's conversation number one.

Fatherlessness. Matt Walsh had a whole thread about it. Yeah. Fatherlessness? Well, just the profile of a school shooter. I think he was pretty much on target. Wow. It seems to be the case, huh?

So Matt Walsh interviewed David Hogg? Did you say Matt Walsh interviewed him? Did I say Matt Walsh? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, who did I? I didn't mean Matt walsh interviewed uh david hogg did you say matt walsh interviewed him did i say matt walsh yeah yeah oh who did i i didn't mean matt walsh i meant uh the other guy because in a video you said matt walsh he's a corporate shell and someone was like why is tim calling matt walsh oh yeah i was confused oh man i'm so sorry matt i did not mean that about you i was talking about the other guy what's his name i can't remember i want to see. I want to see the interview. Why did I say Matt Walsh? Matt, I'm sorry, dude. I'm so sorry. Matt Walsh, you corporate just kidding.

No, it's that other guy who was a Republican but then hated Donald Trump. Matt something? I don't know. Maybe I said Matt Walsh. Joe Walsh? Joe Walsh. Joe Walsh. Not from the Eagles.

Oh, no. Matt, I owe you a beer or something. Matt, you've got to come on the show. We'll fly out. Going back to Nashville. I said that here, too. Matt, I owe you a beer or something. Matt, you've got to come on the show. Yeah, you've got to fly out. Going back to Nashville. I said that here, too. Nobody corrected me. Well, I thought it was real, but I'm glad I brought it up.

No, you were like, oh, Matt Walsh. And I was like, wait, hold on. I guess Matt did. I looked it up, too, and I was like, what? You know what it is? It's that Matt Walsh is so much more relevant than Joe is. I know, right? I was like, there's another Walsh.

I just couldn't think of a guy who didn't matter. No, I sincerely apologize for saying that, Matt. I did not mean that. I got to put a correction on that video. I did not mean that. Got to figure out which one that was. All right. ColdylocksProduction says,

Tim, if you want a gun law expert on, talk to the armed scholar who was educated in laws and discusses laws and lawsuits around gun rights. He'd love to come on the show. Well, let's take a look into him. We will write down his name, armed scholar. Got it. We're going to have to come on the show. We'll take a look into him. We will write down his name, Armed Scholar. We're going to have to fly out MASH.

Now I called it MASH. Now we're just making up names. I must be too tired. Now it's because I'm mixing Matt with Cash. It's all going sideways. I pulled a Biden. You did it. You'll be the next president. Next time Biden gaffes, I'm going to have to be like, well. I pulled a Biden. Game over. You did it. Pulled a Biden.

You'll be the next president. You know, next time Biden gaffes, I'm going to have to be like, well, it happened to the best of us. Love you, Joe. Joe Biden. Or Joe Walsh. Okay, both, both. All right.

Why is this YouTube freezing on me? Ben Sprink says, the force of law cannot be used on a citizen unless they do something illegal. This has to change for a mentally ill person. Ben Sprink says the force of law cannot be used on a citizen unless they do something illegal. This has to change for a mentally ill person. When it is known that a person is mentally ill, they should be separated from society and given help. Gun laws are useless. Yeah, but define mentally ill and what kind of mentally ill.

That's tough, man. Right? Everyone's saying Tim is Joe Biden. I admit it. I can never criticize the man again. Next time he says something like Trinidad and Chabot of pressure, I'm just going to be like, well, you know. Matt Walsh was right. Matt Walsh.

Alright, what is this? Iggy the Incubus says, Tim and crew, what advice do you have for smaller creators who have an interest in discussing these topics so that we can make more avenues and wheelhouses for honest, good faith discussions, use Rumble. Yeah, new networks. And Truth Social. And Truth?

You get in early on these new networks and you can meet a lot of cool people fast. Truth Social is powered by Rumble. Oh, that's right, that's right. Yep, there you go. There you go, man. Alright, Kevin Clark says, if you defended anyone who rioted, you don't get a say on gun control.

If people who don't understand guns can pass legislation on guns, men can do the same for abortion. Y'all keep up the good work. There you go, man. Patricia Swisher says, 13 states allow non-citizens to vote. Look it up.

Yeah. How do we not get ripped apart if you've got states that allow non-citizens to vote? Yeah, I don't know, man. All right. We can grab a couple more. We've got so many. All right.

Carpe Donctum says, thanks for saying it, Tim. For saying which one? I'm not sure. Matt Walsh thing? Trevor Ritzke says, speaking of Magic the Gathering, have you seen how the game is so complex You can literally make a touring complete computer Can you do that really I'm wondering if like I didn't see what was going on

Because in my video I said Matt Walsh instead of Joe Walsh And then a bunch of people probably sent it to him And he was probably like what I'm sure he's like what is going on right now I'm doing my best But if you look it up I'm sure Matt knew Joe Walsh interviewed him And he went no no no I'm surprised nobody best. But if you look it up, I'm sure Matt knew Joe Walsh interviewed him. And he went, no, no, no. Heather Walsh.

I'm surprised nobody emailed me about it. They commented on my Instagram. And I was like, what on earth are they talking about? I thought someone was just losing their mind. Oh, people were. Yeah. I was like, wow, that's so weird. It's just sometimes it's just I pull a Biden.

You know? Said the wrong name. We all do. Oh, I feel so bad about that. Everyone tell Matt that I'm sorry. We like Matt Walsh. I love him. That's cool.

Yeah. Ryan Calkins says, at this point, the government should just legalize an annual purge night. People love those movies, though. I've never watched a single purge movie. You've got to watch it.

Really? You've got to watch at least one. Maybe the first one. Yeah. Okay. I'll watch one. I thought it was funny. You haven't seen either cast?

No. You've got to check it out. Which one's the best one? First one. Okay. That's where I'm going. There you go. All right.

Sir Lemon Grab says, Tim, how do you feel about 3D printing with metal? I would say unacceptable. But that's just for your name. In reality, no, it's pretty cool. I watched a video. I think they used lasers, and it was like metal dust or something, and then it like 3D printed an object. It's like not very strong. I don't know.

Yeah, it superheats the dust and then melts it and reforms. Is that how it works? I'm pretty sure, yeah. Wow, that's crazy. That's cool. It's a lot of potential. Ladies and gentlemen, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, let Matt Walsh know I'm very sorry for using his name incorrectly when I was talking about Joe. Head over to TimCast.com, become a member, subscribe.

We are going to have a members-only show coming up at 11 or so p.m. You can follow the show at TimCast. You can follow me personally everywhere at TimCast. Cash, do you want to shout anything out? Thanks for having me. The book, please buy The Plot Against the King. It's the number one children's book in America. Adults can learn about Russiagate while teaching their kids.

You're going to love it. The truth matters. That's what the whole purpose of the book is. Thanks for having me back on the show, guys. I love it. Where do people buy it? Go to either theplotagainsttheking.com or check out fightwithcash.com. All the information is there.

Get a copy. I signed 4,000 over the weekend, so we're going. Do you want to shout anything out, Adrian? Yeah. Thanks for having me on the show. I really appreciate it, brother. And if anybody wants to follow me, you can do so at AdrianNormanDC on all the old platforms, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, et cetera.

On the newer platforms like True Social, just Adrian Norman. We can duke it out online. All right. Ian Cross and you guys, thank you so much for coming. Cash Adrian, love you guys, man. It's great to see you again, dude. Good to meet you finally for the first time. Eventually, finally we meet. I want to tell

everyone, I was on Pop Culture Crisis today. Episode 127. It's youtube.com. I think it's probably just search Pop Culture Crisis on YouTube. You're going to find it. Pop Culture Crisis. Wonderful. That is always a good time. I've been filling in every Wednesday for them and it's always a blast. It's kind of a

field that I don't usually get into so we talk about a lot of cultural stuff. Great time. And real quick, Pop Culture Crisis when you super chat, money guns fire. It's unbelievably distracting and the stink bugs chat, money guns fire. Yeah, it's unbelievably distracting. And the stink bugs and the money flying through the air, it's really thick. One went in my coffee. It was hilarious.

It was good times, yeah. Money or a stink bug? Yeah, one of the monies went in my coffee. One of the 20s. That's better than a stink bug. They were all over me. But also, the next step is going to be to have, oh, they did the parties today, I think. Yeah, yeah.

So once a certain number of superats get reached on Pop Culture Crisis, lights go off and money guns start firing like crazy. Yeah, we're talking about adding some music and things flying by behind me as it's on. I mean, that's... Okay, that just sounds a little distracting. That's me. Anyway, it is a great time. If you guys want to check out Pop Culture Crisis, they're also on YouTube.

Brett works very hard on that, and it's going to be awesome in the future. You guys may follow me on Twitter and Minds.com, Sarah Patchlets as well as SarahPatchlets.me. We will see you all over at TimCast.com for that member segment. Thanks for hanging out. Bye, guys.