Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #539 - Ex Federal Agent Investigated As ACCOMPLICE In Buffalo Tragedy w/ Bryan Dean Wright
Episode Date: May 28, 2022Tim, Ian, and Lydia host podcaster and commentator Bryan Dean Wright alongside energy expert Daniel Turner to discuss the officers involved in Uvalde, the heroic CBP officer who left a haircut and bor...rowed a shotgun to evacuate the school in Uvalde, Tim's agreement with Karl Marx on one issue, the incredibly deceptive journalists' article about ordering guns (not buying them!), and the incredibly creepy Army psy-op recruitment ad. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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We have an investigation happening in Buffalo.
Apparently, before this tragic incident occurred at the grocery store,
advance warning was given to several people, one of which was a retired federal agent.
So now, it is being reported by the Buffalo News that there is an active investigation
into whether or not this individual should be charged as an accomplice.
Of course, this story is going around because a lot of people are looking into, let's just call it nefarious and malicious means behind the scenes involving federal agents with these tragic incidents that have occurred.
I don't believe, you know, I don't blindly just believe the theories that people are putting out, the conspiracies.
But I do think it's interesting to talk about because some people seem to think there may be more going on. And I think the information we get out of these warrants an
investigation. So guess what? They're investigating this guy. Now, typically, when people investigate
themselves, they don't find anything wrong. So who knows? But there are a lot of other questions
about what happened with the Uvalde shooting, like how this poor kid, a couple of days after
his 18th birthday, was able to get a credit line or able to get money to buy an extremely expensive rifle get it delivered and pick it up all in the span of
less than two days some people just they want to know there needs to be an investigation here
but we have more information coming out and i'm shocked to say for the first time in a long time
the left and the right are united they're united in their disdain for the police who
stood in the hallway as
they heard the shots going off and did
nothing. And outside barred
parents from getting in, armed parents,
from saving their kids. So it's remarkable
to see left-wing
activists just as outraged
and for the same reasons as
the rightists. So, hey, who would have thought
this would be the thing that would unify us?
But when kids lose their lives and police do nothing and bar people from saving them,
I think a lot of people are going to be angry.
So we're going to talk all about this and a bunch of other stuff.
Joining us to discuss this is Brian Dean Wright.
Good, sir. Pleasure.
Who are you?
Yes, I am here to enjoy you all.
But beyond being here, I host a podcast called The President's Daily Brief.
We talk about a lot of international affairs, some domestic stuff,
but the focus is just like the actual President's Daily Brief,
which is a top-secret summary that's given to the president every morning.
I do the same thing with folks of what's happening around the world,
and we focus a lot on why you should care because lots of things around the world happen. But really, why would I care if I'm in Des Moines this morning, right? So we talk about that
and we talk about solutions. So how do we solve the country's problems, the world's problems? So
that's what I do every morning at 6 a.m. And having worked at the CIA, that's the reason I
started doing this podcast. You're a former Deep State. Yes. Well, maybe current.
You don't know.
Can you ever shake it?
Oh, let's talk about that.
All right.
But you did work at the CIA.
I did.
We'll definitely talk about that and the Deep State or whatever else.
We have Daniel Turner as well.
Yeah, there's a Fed to my right.
My name is Jack Pasova.
Yes, Daniel Turner, Power of the Future.
Great to be here again.
Always good to be with you.
And I was talking to Brian in the green room.
I've followed him for years and years,
and so it's actually really cool to meet you in person.
So I'm glad to be here.
Ian Crossland, what's up, everybody?
I'm going to do something a little controversial and spin the UFO with my fingers.
Oh, my.
Oh, my gosh.
Look at that.
Look at that wobbly spin.
I didn't say I was going to spin it fast.
Nice.
I just said I was going to spin it, and I followed through. The chat has exploded. Everyone at that wobbly spin. I didn't say I was going to spin it fast. Nice. I just said I was going to spin it. Love it. And I followed through.
The chat has exploded.
Everyone's saying fed.
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
We talk about like a road to redemption.
So is there something like that when you're no longer a fed or how long until you're no longer?
Well, you guys tell me what's the penance.
Like what's the thing that I have to do to make myself redeemed in your talk show?
A hundred bucks just right now, actually.
Done it.
Your soul will be saved.
I'm in.
What about you, Lydia?
I am also here in the corner, and I'm about to troubleshoot a little audio buzz we seem to be having.
I think I know what it is, so hopefully I can fix it.
But until then, I'll throw it to Tim.
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It is a lovely Friday night.
Let's read this first story from the Buffalo News.
Authorities investigating if retired federal agent knew of Buffalo mass shooting plans in advance.
They're actually wondering if this dude should be charged as an accomplice. What they're basically saying is that in this – I think it was in the Discord that the – oh, I'm spelling it wrong.
Here we go.
The perpetrator shared the information with six individuals, one of which was a retired federal agent.
They say agents from the FBI are in the process of tracking down and interviewing the six people, including the retired agent, and attempting to determine if any of them should be charged as accomplices, the two sources with close knowledge of the probe told the Buffalo News.
The two sources did not identify the agent by name and could not confirm what agency he worked for.
I just got to start off by saying sometimes there are racist former federal agents.
Sometimes people who are criminals work for different departments.
Or maybe this guy was in a discord and did not see any of this information and that's why he didn't report it we don't know but the reason i want to i want to lead with this
is because there's a lot of questions around all of these it's becoming particularly prominent to
see on twitter and other platforms where people are questioning how these things can actually
happen like how is it you know with uvalde a guy two days after his 18th birthday gets one of the
best most expensive rifles possible.
What was his training?
How could he afford it?
He was being made fun of for being poor.
Now all of a sudden... So people question this stuff.
I think there are simple solutions,
simple answers to a lot of these things,
but I do think we could not debunk that truly.
And honestly, we can cast doubt onto these theories.
But I think it's interesting.
So I don't know.
What do you guys think about this?
The potential federal agent. I should ask you, Brian, as you are
former Fed, maybe current.
You should say current Fed. Yeah, got it. All right. Yeah, look, there are bad apples
in every bunch, aren't there? And whether this guy was knowledgeable and actually ignored
his own training, which is these folks, especially
bureau guys, they know absolutely the signs, the flags, and when and where to report those.
So he should have a very special, sensitive tripwire is the point.
And the fact that he didn't do what he should have is really odd and frankly disconcerting
because it doesn't make sense.
Interesting.
Some people were, so I can't confirm a lot of what people are posting in these stories,
but some people are saying that apparently these guys might have been in Uvalde and in Buffalo in the same discords
or that the people egging them on may have been in the same discords.
If you go back all the way to Columbine and you look at the investigation into that, even
Dylan
Kleblot, I think his name was, I forget.
But even his
family said, you know, he spent a lot of time
in the garage. We always heard these loud noises.
He was always blowing things up.
This is kind of similar in the sense
that there are a lot of warning signs.
Clearly he's telling people
just like the guy in Texas, you know, told people.
He told that girl who he tagged on social media in L.A.,
like, I'm going to do this.
I mean, if that isn't a sign
that there is some clear mental problem,
that there is this very blatant cry for help,
there's almost the desire to attract attention
before the fact.
And I think right now the conversation, as it should be,
is, you know, what else can we do?
But I think what we're starting to see now is, well, actually, there really isn't a need
necessarily for more laws or more sort of bureaucratic steps.
It's just actually to execute the things that we were supposed to do more thoughtfully,
more consistently, whether it's at the schools, making sure doors are shut for Pete's sake.
If you're a parent or you're a loved one or you're a neighbor and you start seeing this stuff,
raise the flag. Do the things
that we all know that work.
I don't know in this case as we
learn more that we really should
have an additional layer of
laws or whatnot. It's really just making
sure that what we do and have
on the books, just execute that more thoughtfully,
more consistently. I'll tell you that this
issue of training, that's one that I think is really odd with this fellow
because he was so young, he just got this gun.
It's not a light weapon to work with.
So some degree of training, exposure, where did he get that?
That's one of the things that I have been looking at and looking for.
Yeah, so when people are pointing out this gun with taxes and shipping and everything
was two grand, a lot of people said, how could a guy who works at Wendy's and is under 18
afford that?
Because you'd have to, I mean, save up for how long?
I mean, I suppose if he's living with his mom, he's not paying anything.
But then apparently he got into a fight with his grandma or something over a phone bill.
So I mean, maybe he really just saved up this money.
And then it actually is, it could be quite simple, a credit card. You turn 18, you get a phone bill. So he – I mean maybe he really just saved up this money and then it actually is – it
could be quite simple, a credit card.
You turn 18, you get a credit card.
If you've got no bad credit, you might get a couple grand on a credit card.
Yeah, easily.
But then there's a timeframe.
So I'm not sure if this is correct.
I don't know if you guys know.
You guys can fact check me.
But it was two days after his 18th birthday.
So he ordered the gun online and then maybe a week in advance it got shipped in.
Then he went there and picked it up, and then the next day maybe.
I mean it's all possible.
I don't want to say it's impossible, but it is kind of like did he really plan it out meticulously as he did, I suppose, right?
That sounds like he'd been planning it for a while.
If he organized it so that the gun had arrived after he turned 18 and everything was right then, it sounds like he'd been planning it.
So this issue of planning. So that the gun had arrived after he turned 18 and everything was right then. It sounded like he'd been planning it. Well, let me add.
So this issue of planning.
So in the intelligence community, particularly with terror attacks, we know that there is a planning process.
And along that process, you end up finding ways to intervene.
They slip up.
They make mistakes.
There are little warning signs.
And from an intel perspective, that's what you look for to stop those attacks.
So I think, again, we're going to see the more investigative work that gets done, there are those little
pops and flags that we're going to see retroactively be like, we should have seen that. Or somebody
did see that and they didn't do something. And I think that's where we're going to start
really making a difference when these horrible events happen. We learn from them. That's
how we stop the next one. It's going to change. The next attack is going to change, but that's
what we learn from them. That's how we stop the next one. It's going to change. The next attack is going to change, but that's what we learn. Yeah. Basically what you were just saying before,
to add onto that, when I look at these incidents, I think one of the problems we have is that we
think there's a solution. And maybe there is. I'm not saying we shouldn't try and figure something
out. But I wonder if when people are saying, we need armed teachers. And I'm like, well,
I think if people were armed in general, we'd probably be better off.
But I don't know if that solves the problem of a deranged young person who plans this thing out.
If this dude really did plan it out as extensively as he did, and seemingly he did because he ordered it in advance,
waited until his 18th birthday, saved up money, got a credit card, who knows what he did, but he planned it,
then I don't think – I'll put it this way.
You mentioned something before the show.
You said we got to be right 100 out of 100 times because that one time you aren't is when they get you.
So we can plan.
We can be like, okay, how about armed teachers?
And then the kid just – the next person makes a plan to accommodate for armed teachers.
I think the issue is that we've got a cultural and mental illness problem.
I think that, you know, I know a lot of conservatives say mental illness problem, but you look
at the medication these kids are on, and we have a fatherlessness problem.
It's cultural, and it's multifaceted.
Everybody just wants the singular solution.
They're like, we can either ban the guns or, you know, we can arm the teachers, and I'm
like, that's not going to solve what's going on. Well, I think, and when it comes
to the government stepping in, you know, this kid is cutting himself, right? He's made a lot of
threats. Where's Child Protective Services? And all I'm going to say is, I don't even have,
it's not even a question, it's more just an observation. But Child Protective Services
were shown up to people's parents, to parents' house where they refused to vaccinate their kids within hours.
Right. Then the height of the pandemic of covid child protective services was stepping in swiftly.
So it's just kind of bizarre that the same government services that we are looking to protect children in the case that the parents are not doing their job seem to be kind of absent when this is a very clear
case of a kid who is troubled who is abusive who is uh i mean if you're 17 and you're cutting
yourself you're cutting your face repeatedly i mean how much more of a red flag law do we need
to say this kid is not but boy if he had said my parents won't get me vaccinated holy crap the
child protective services would have been there within minutes what if he says my parents won't get me vaccinated, holy crap, the Child Protective Services would have been there within minutes.
What if he says my parents won't let me get my Adderall prescription filled?
Will Child Protective Services come and take him?
Will they side with him because he needs his Adderall?
Or will they side with the parent because it's inconscionable to give a 14-year-old Adderall?
My parents won't let me choose my pronoun.
Yeah, my gender.
Holy cow, would they have swept in and said, the abuse you're creating to this child.
So the reason why I'm bringing this up is not to dump on people who are failing at their
job, but if you're turning to the government for a solution, I don't think you're going
to have any solution that works.
Not in this case.
It's like state of mind.
The government is not good at solving state of mind.
You need like a spiritual leader or something or something like that.
I think we are in a culture war for a reason.
We have very serious cultural problems.
Now, it's cool to see that the left and the right are unified in their disdain for the police over this one.
But when you look at how the left has been approaching basically everything, I can say it feels to me the reason moderates and conservatives are kind of united.
You've got post-liberal, libertarian, centrists and conservatives all in sort of an agreement
because they're actually addressing facts and issues.
The left isn't.
When it comes to issues of these shootings,
they say, background checks.
I said yesterday, okay, we have those.
Ban the AR-15. Okay, what about an AK?
What about an M1A? What about any other gun?
I mean, so many.
They're just not saying anything.
But they're getting really, really mad.
So I look at the deep cultural
issues, and I'm sorry if I'm not going to
take a liberal's word for it,
because they believe Jesse Smollett. And now
we have this tweet going viral from another fake account
claiming that Governor Abbott
sent a rep to this guy's house
telling him that
we'll pay you to stand with the governor
and if you don't, we'll criminally charge you or something.
It's the most ridiculous made-up fake story, probably by a 12-year-old.
Joaquin Castro is tweeting, let me know if you need any help.
Pulitzer-winning journalists are all tweeting it out like,
I can't believe this is happening.
Christopher Titus, the comedian, verified.
He's like, yeah, but it's done.
It's like, dude, boomers. I mean, I want to say boomer, it's like dude boomers i mean i want to say
boomer but they're not boomers they're like 35 years old and twitter hasn't taken it down twitter
hasn't flagged it as misinformation or false um yeah but but forgive me if i say the people who
believe jesse smollett i'm not going to take political advice from it's just never going to
happen yeah maybe a lack of critical thinking because I think they're still getting facts that's just not right.
They're wrong facts, whatever that means.
Well, they're not facts.
Yeah, like that the AR means assault rifle, for instance.
And then they think ban AR, you're not going to have any more assault rifles.
So even if you look at this, I think, from the most hopeful perspective,
people need control.
And when you have a moment like this, everything feels out of control. So you're going to gravitate to the thing that makes you feel best and most comfortable.
And it's AR-15. Okay, that's the bad thing that we all need to focus our energy on.
Doesn't matter the nuance or the facts. It's just enough people in the moment of hysteria say,
that's the bad thing. There's the one silver bullet solution. Focus on it. And that's just
not true. You're bringing up the very correct points. This is multifaceted.
Maybe we have a medicine issue or the mental health concern.
We have a lack of a father.
We have a lack of support in the family.
There are so many different pieces to each of these kinds of horrific shootings
that to stop and really ask tough questions, not happening.
We just want the one silver bullet solution.
I want to pull up this tweet from Matt Walsh matt walsh says absolutely damning there is no defending this
19 officers waited outside and listened to children get slaughtered i hope all of these
cowards are sued into bankruptcy they deserve prison too but i doubt that's going to happen
let me read for you this excerpt that matt posted The authorities now say that local officers first entered the
school at 1135, two minutes after the gunman, and that there were 19 officers in the hallway by 1203
p.m., but that they did not breach the door and kill the gunman until 1250, even as they continued
to hear him firing. I just want to pause and perhaps tug at your heartstrings
maybe a little bit.
I want you to imagine
being in the hallway
hearing 10-year-old children
being shot
from a high-powered rifle
and with 19 people around you armed.
And I want you to imagine
what must possibly be going
through your head to think,
I'm not going to do anything.
I can't fathom that.
This wrecked me when I read this tweet.
It's wrecking me now.
I'm wondering what they knew, the cops.
Did they think there were multiple shooters?
Was it possible there were multiple shooters,
that they were firing on purpose in there to draw them in,
to kill the cops?
What did they know?
I think what was the first thing they said,
but they could have got shot.
Is that what it was?
Look, I'll tell you from my view, having worked with law enforcement and the intelligence community,
when you're going face-to-face with really awful, evil people, you just go.
And you get into this line of work because you know that you're there because other people can't be or won't be.
And so you take that mantle on, and you know that you're going because other people can't be or won't be. And so you take that mantle on.
You know that you're going to throw yourself into harm's way.
And the people who love you, your spouses, your kids, they know that that's the agreement that you have.
It's just in your heart.
And so, you know, the extent to which this did or didn't happen, I don't know.
But I'll tell you, if you had a bunch of guys in a hallway who knew that this slaughter was happening
and they put aside their oath and their commitment to those kids or their community
because they were afraid for their own lives,
while at some level I think most of it can understand like,
hey, we want to preserve ourselves,
when you sign up to be a law enforcement official or even an intelligence officer,
you understand that your body at some level belongs to the mission,
and you go. You go in and you know that you will at some level belongs to the mission, and you go.
You go in, and you know that you will sacrifice yourself.
That's just what you're setting up for.
I don't – you know, that sounds very logical.
I don't know that I would be affected in that way.
I think the moment I heard screaming and the guns, I'd just be kicking the door in.
Yeah.
I can't even – I don't think I'd be able to think straight.
But that's the point.
Most people that I've ever worked with in law enforcement, they come to the table with that orientation in their heart.
That's just what they do because they know that they're going to be called on to do that.
It doesn't matter who your kids are or your spouses or whatever.
When you hear that moment, when you see that that person needs to be taken down, you go.
And you know that you can put yourself in their shoes.
Real quick.
Sorry, man.
Have you ever watched a movie where there's medieval warfare or or ancient warfare or even colonial era warfare and i always thought every mel gibson movie ever made
mel gibson movie all of them the patriot is one of my favorite movies of all time and i when i
watch these movies i always see those guys on the front line with the spears or whatever and i'm
like they know they're gonna die and they they stand there knowing they are going to die and
it's remarkable because that's something you choose to walk up to, stand there and
say, this is it.
When in this circumstance, I'm just like, this is the exact opposite of that.
These are the people who are like, I'm not going in front.
And they can hear children being shot.
I can't understand.
I have run into danger for stupider reasons than that.
When I worked for these media companies and we hear the gunshots and we hear the flashbangs go off
and we take cover and we slowly try going towards it just to film it.
Just to film because we want to show people what's happening, let alone trying to save the life of a child.
My brain doesn't understand this.
I just don't get it.
I just can't.
It doesn't.
The brain doesn't process it because even if it weren't the gunshots,
if they just said on the other side of this door
are some children who were shot,
you can't fathom standing there for 30 minutes
and saying, oh yeah, there were kids shot on the other side
of this door. They knew there were people
who had been shot. You are
looking for triage. You're looking to...
So it just
doesn't make sense. And I'm not saying it didn't happen.
It just defies logic.
It defies emotion.
It defies human nature.
It defies the nature of law enforcement, which does have that race in and save the day.
It just doesn't compute.
Look, you've got left and right publications are essentially unified.
On the CNN's reporting, they waited in the hallway, 19 people.
That's just, I don't know. That doesn't make any sense.
I'll tell you, working with a lot of guys in the military, they have told me stories.
No doubt people who are listening and watching right now probably know what I'm about to say
in terms of when you've got your brothers next to you, and if there's somebody coming at you,
you get up and you fire.
You take care of the threat.
You do it for yourself.
You do it for the people who are around you.
There's a brotherhood and a sisterhood that you're in this for the mission.
But it's also because you're doing this for your country.
In this way, you're doing it for your community.
You're doing it for those kids and those families,
but you're doing it for your community because you love your community.
You want to defend it from any threat, foreign or domestic.
It's the exact same thing in the
military. Those guys do it for
their country because they love their country. So I don't know
what in the heck has gone on here, but
something is very, very wrong.
I got ratioed today on Twitter because I
said, this is what happens when you defund the
police, you get incompetent officers.
And the response from the right
was, these were fully funded officers and they have no obligation to defend anybody. And the response from the right was, these were fully funded officers
and they have no obligation to defend anybody.
And the left said the same thing.
This department was never defunded.
And so I'm going to eat that one and I'm going to
own up to the poor wording of the idea.
What I was thinking of when
I was tweeting that was, this is what
happens after, quote unquote, defund
the police. I didn't mean to
say that this department was
specifically defunded i said when you demonize police when you memorialize criminals this is
what you'll get why would an officer they're thinking themselves if i go in there they're
going to blame me they're going to you know they're going to say oh he started shooting
because you did it they will throw so no one is willing to take the actions anymore yeah i was
imagining that
from their perspective maybe in like fog of war they didn't know what was going on if there were
multiple shooters if it was a hostage situation if ever there are three guys in there with ar-15s
trained on the door ready for cops just to walk through one by one and take them down one by one
and they're like we're not going to add to the bloodshed that's what i'm trying to figure someone
had mentioned that cops do not rush towards an armed man that they can't see because they will get shot. What were you
going to say, Brian? This idea, though, building on what you both have just said, this idea of
risk aversion, right? So if you right now are in a law enforcement capacity in this country,
you know that if you step incorrectly, you are going to be under a massive microscope,
irrespective of your
intent. So could there have been an issue here where some of those people, particularly collectively,
are like, oh God, if we do the wrong thing here, or the cameras are going to be outside, and we're
all going to get nailed for this. To what extent is there a risk aversion sort of culture developing
within law enforcement because of this sort of the woke stuff, or even some degree of actually
good scrutiny over what people in law enforcement have done historically.
But has it gone too far?
Has a pendulum swung too far?
I think that that could also potentially be something that we're looking at here.
Well, the last two Democrat presidents, one being the current and the one before Trump,
the day this happened or two days ago, they were talking about George Floyd and
talking about the need for police accountability.
So when you say, have
we taken it too far? Yeah. Who
wants to be a cop right now? And this
just makes it worse, right? Now everyone's like, you're going to be
a cop? Did you know 19 of them stood in the hallway?
And now you have to be
collectively joined to that
you're all cops. It's like,
I don't want to be part of that type of cop
but I want to be a cop but not anymore
I don't. If this is what it means, if every time
I do something you're going to subpoena my body
cam footage to have NBC
edit it in a way that makes me look like
the best. Screw you. I don't need this
for 38 grand a year.
And we desperately need heroes right now.
If in the military, if those
soldiers didn't have the authority to mow down civilians at will in the heat of the moment, we would lose every war.
You need that vicious onslaught.
You need it.
Or you cannot win a war.
That's war.
But these people, it basically was as similar as like a war moment of war in the classroom.
But I think this is different.
But I see what you're saying.
You need a certain level of vigor and and you know when it comes to outright war
but when you're in war it's different from when you're hearing children dying right next to you i
i i'm i have no words to explain the correlation is that their their authority to be brutal has
been stripped away from them i'm not saying that it's good for cops to be brutal, but I think that in some cases they need to feel like they can be in order to survive.
I would only offer, brother, that I think that there is a good thing that we teach,
both in law enforcement, the intel community, and military,
and that is target discernment.
So understanding who's in front of you and whether or not to pull the trigger.
And I think that a certain bridling of that raw human nature that just wants to throttle and kill, it's not such a bad thing, actually.
It's quite good.
So some discernment around target selection is brilliant.
But your point, and this is really important, in that fog of war, in that intensity, when your adrenaline is pumping, are you going to make that perfect decision 100 times out of 100 times?
No.
And we know that, whether it be intel, law enforcement, or military.
You're going to make mistakes, and mistakes are going to happen.
And so that's when I think as a country, we need to be able to have that moment of reflection to say,
someone made a mistake.
It doesn't mean all law enforcement are good or bad.
Let's be careful with our statements not to make sweeping generalizations but maybe a bit more nuanced but the bottom line i think that a little bit of target discernment is really
important it's really good but i think in this case something just didn't go well didn't go
it's worse than you all realize it's not just about police who stood back and did nothing
from timcast.com border patrol team who ultimately killed the shooter were blocked from entering the school by Uvalde police for nearly an hour.
Why?
It doesn't make any sense.
These people were, not only were they cowards, but they were obstructing the parents and the border patrol.
This is, something is wrong here.
Something is really screwed up.
Something is seriously wrong here.
Yeah.
Now, they're saying they thought the children were at risk
And so they didn't want to risk it by storming in
Or something like that
And now they're saying it was a big mistake
I don't buy it
For you to stand outside that room
Hearing gunshots
Knowing there are children inside
Even if you don't hear gunshots
If you know children had been shot an hour ago
Still can't go in
There are kids who were shot inside.
Can't go in.
What do they think was going to happen?
Like after he killed all the kids, he wasn't a threat anymore?
He's still got a gun.
Look, let him run out of bullets first.
That's crazy.
Apparently he had like what, like 1,600 rounds?
We need right now for our future generations heroes to look up to.
You know what we need?
We need a story about one of these cops,
what should have happened.
Storming in, kicking the door in,
pulling out their service weapon,
and ending this psychopath,
and then telling people about how he risked everything
to save these kids,
and that's what you want to be when you grow up.
Well, the Border Patrol agent who actually did eventually kill him was getting his hair
cut. His wife texted
him and said, there's an active shooter
in the school. Help. And I'm sure
you can find that article. And he was in the
barber shop. He didn't have his weapon
on him, but his barber had a shotgun.
Holy cow! The barber's shotgun
and drove to the school. That's amazing.
He is the one. That's the story. You can find the story.
That dude needs a movie. That dude and he's the one who eventually to the school. That's amazing. He is the one. That's the story. You can find the story. That dude needs a movie. That dude and
he's the one who eventually killed the
shooter. I'm sure you can find the article.
Let me pull that up. That is the culture.
That's what we want. Having been in this world
for a while, that is absolutely
in the DNA of every
cop and every military official
and every CIA officer that I've worked
with. I would say in the vast
majority of cases, that's what drives people to show up is doing exactly what he did off duty.
It wasn't his responsibility.
It doesn't matter.
It was still his mission because it was his community.
It was his country.
That's what people dream of when they join the forces.
Good people dream of having that moment when they can jump up, grab the nearest available
weapon, and make it happen.
Well, I wanted to say before we move to this really interesting-sounding story,
I think that this might be the result of what happened during the pandemic.
When they were locking down, they were enforcing all these unconstitutional rules,
and the good cops were like, I'm out. Bye.
So we're left with cowardly cops who watched what happened during the BLM riots.
I don't know if he was the guy who actually killed the shooter.
They say it was a CBP Bortech.
Is it Bortech group?
Border Tactical?
Yeah, that confronted him.
But this guy did run in with his barber shotgun.
Oh, he saved his wife and daughter.
Okay.
That's amazing.
He took his barber shotgun.
Still, an amazing story.
And these are the guys that we need to make hero movies about.
Yes.
Yep.
I mean, how would you do it?
It would be short.
Short and sweet.
It's just a dad who said,
I've got to save my family,
you know?
Yeah.
You know,
again,
what I would love to know
is about this man's life.
What drove him in his life
to become who he became?
What,
in his childhood,
in his young adulthood,
what made him decide that in that moment,
sitting in that barber chair,
that he has this beautiful family that he was going to either try to save
them,
or he would know that as he was trying to save his family,
he could be shot and killed and he would be gone.
And his family would have to survive without him,
but he still got himself out of that chair,
grab that shotgun and ran.
There's something interesting and beautiful about his soul that I would love
to understand because that's exactly what we need to uplift and ran. There's something interesting and beautiful about his soul that I would love to understand
because that's exactly what we need to uplift and celebrate.
It's actually a good origin story for his kid.
If you were doing a movie about someone,
or like a Marine or a law enforcement guy who did something great,
and it's like his origin was that his dad risked his life,
and that was the message he got,
and that's why he went on to become a hero.
I'm going to tell you what this guy is.
He is a normal man who did something extraordinary.
Because that's what, in history of this country,
it's not somebody who was born into some fancy family.
It was a normal person who was put in an extraordinary situation
and did something extraordinary with the power of that moment.
I don't know.
When I think of the Careys and the Bushes
and some of the prestigious families of the country,
they've done amazing things.
Just absolutely amazing.
I'm definitely amazed when I think
about those things. He took his barbarous shotgun. He actually
helped evacuate people out of the building.
Well, do we have Medal of Honor for
police, local, state police,
things like that? I don't know. Maybe we should.
But I wanted to add before we move on, because
our chat's full of people screaming fed,
is that this guy worked for the federal government.
He worked for the Border Patrol.
He wasn't a local cop.
The local cops didn't do jack.
Deep state.
Ah!
That's it.
I knew it.
Deep state was here to help us.
You raised a great question, though.
Is there a Medal of Honor, an award?
Will this guy be recognized?
It will be curious.
The next State of the Union is in seven months.
Border Patrol.
Whoever the president invites to his balcony is always a very important, very symbolic.
I will bet right now that Biden will take someone from Buffalo to highlight the racism angle because that is what we do in our American politics.
He will not take a hero and say, this is a guy who risked everything.
He will take a victim and say, and it's because
of this country that victimhood
like this exists because you're all bad.
Vote for me again. So that's what I think
is going to happen. It's a little speculative
of me, but I don't
think they'll build a statue for this guy. No.
But they built a statue for George Floyd.
Yes. Pray for us, St. George Floyd.
Who was on fentanyl at the time of death.
Indeed he was.
Oh, more than that.
Yeah, five.
No, he should not have died.
I mean, I'm not trying to say that in any way, but we don't want to make those guys heroes.
No.
No, George Floyd died.
He's a victim.
And it's tragic.
And in many ways, you know, I also think that he was a flawed human being.
We don't want people just to die, but we don't tell our children to look up to the people
who are dying in these tragic things
and who have lived pretty bad lives.
We want kids to look up
to this guy, Jacob
Albarado. I don't know his name.
Who was getting a haircut. Yeah. And then
decides he gets a text from his wife, that's the
story, and then says, you know, she says, I love you,
and he rushes in to help save, I mean
he wants to save his family, but he helps evacuating
a bunch of other people too.
Get Jacob Alvarado on the show.
That is a great idea.
Might have to try that.
Yeah.
I think, you know, just, and you ask him the question, where'd you come from?
Well, he's also, he's also CBP.
So I'd love to talk to him.
Oh, for sure.
Yeah.
I get a lot of questions.
Yeah.
He'd be great guys.
Ask him if they really whip people.
Oh, yeah.
That's what I want to know.
I was at, I went to Austin and I was staying at a hotel and flipping across the border. That's what I want to know. I went to
Austin, and I was
hanging out at a hotel and flipping through the channels. I can't remember
which news station turned on automatically.
And it was this documentary.
And it was just the weirdest
Jussie Smollett-level
hoax, BS, leftist propaganda.
And it was playing this dark music
and showing all these awful photos of, like,
Trump supporters and Trump looking angry
and then it showed the Border Patrol guy with the rain
where they tried to convince people
he was whipping them
and it's just not real
these people believe Jussie Smollett hoaxes every single day
Jussie is free again right?
that's what I heard last night
he hasn't been put back in jail
for the time being
he's still
he's got a movie coming out
yeah for sure am I going to be run out of this place? back in jail. Well, that's what I heard last night. He's still, yeah. But you know what's not? He's got a movie coming out. He's a deep state.
They're real.
Yeah, for sure.
So am I going to be run out of this place?
Is that what's going to happen?
No, absolutely not.
I prefer the term administrative state.
There you go.
Yes.
Speaking of, you were part of the administrative state.
I was.
That's true.
Why did you leave?
Two reasons.
The first was my brother still is an alcoholic but needed to be in rehab so I left
to go make a bunch of money to get him into rehab.
So thank God he's sober
and doing better now.
The other was I saw
a lot of people who
no longer were there for the right
reasons. I can't talk
a lot about the programs that I was involved in
but the upshot is that they were lying to
the White House and the NSC and the oversight committees about how successful we were being
at certain things. And I was like, you guys, this is incorrect. And they basically just told me to
go F myself, right? So after a while, you were baptized as I was, born and raised in rural
America, and my family loved the country, and cousins who joined the military and all that.
So joining the CIA was an extension of that.
So you would have thought, as I did for many years,
that everybody would want to remain committed to the mission, to the country.
But then I got to this level where I'm involved in various programs
and I'm watching them lie to our elected leaders,
which I don't know in hindsight, like how
naive of me not to think that some of my colleagues would lie to protect themselves so they could get
promoted. Right. But it was so just disheartening that I was like, I'm not going to spend another
20 years of my life around these people who aren't here for the right reason. I got it. I'm out. I'm
done. So do you think, does the CIA have a little bit of an Enron problem where the numbers
are inflated, but everyone likes the cons of the result?
And so they're like, yeah, this is great.
Great.
Insider knowledge here.
Every two years or so, people rotate out of positions.
So you want to be able to, in your evaluation, you want people to say, oh, things were better
than when you got here.
Nobody wants to say, hey, when I got into this position, I actually did a little bit of scrubbing
and this is a bunch of bullshit.
The programs that we're telling the
downtown, that is to say the White House, the Congress
that are all great, actually they're garbage.
Nobody wants to be that guy.
So everybody waits two years and then
leaves. So everybody kicks this
corrupt can down the road. And so that's
what's happening inside the agency to this
day. So term limits for administrative state. This has been brought up to me multiple times,
and I'm a fan. What you're saying is absolutely solidifies my belief in that. If they're waiting
two years to get in a promotion and they'll just say whatever they need to say, I mean,
that's the deepest, darkest crap. So I don't know what the solution is other than
you've got to have more sunshine into those kinds of systems.
And you have to have people raise their hand to the inspector general, et cetera, to say, hey, there's an issue.
But ultimately, this is about the House and the Senate, the oversight committees and their staffs,
knowing what questions to ask and holding the people in power to account.
And that's true with the FBI, too.
That's what has failed over these past number of years with all these FBI agents who did
this ridiculous crap in Michigan, setting those guys up.
We saw it with guys like John Brennan, who knew damn well that there was no Trump-Russia
collusion.
But he left the agency and he went around the country for two years saying it was all
but true, if not absolutely true.
And he knew it wasn't.
Oh, James Clapper as well. Sorry to clapper as well sorry he had another one clapper with when they're talking about the prism
spying network that they had uncovered and asked if they'd been spying on american people his
response was not wittingly knowing full well yes you have been spying on the american people the
big station like a big building in the middle of nowhere to do it under oath he perjured himself
congress did nothing they so here's here's what state is. I'm going to give you an example. A guy named Aldrich Ames.
He was a CIA officer back in the 1990s. And he decided he was going to spy for the Soviet Union.
And so he did. And he was caught by the FBI. And they asked him, Aldrich, why'd you do it?
And he said, because I know what's best for this country and its national security,
and I'm going to act on it.
So the deep state are these people who have profound powers
who decide that based on their own politics, their own beliefs,
they're going to do whatever the hell they want to do,
irrespective of the law, and then they get away with it.
So was it like a corporate governance, basically, that got built in 1946?
Is that right after World War II, Eisenhower basically put this thing together? That's the upshot. Yeah,
through the Second World War, there was something called the OSS. That was kind of the external
intelligence service. And then obviously, the FBI preceded that. But yeah, there was a need
for foreign intelligence to understand what our adversaries are doing and to get ahead of that,
right? So I get the need, and that remains. But the problem is, when you give people
any human power, some percentage of them are going to abuse it.
And the more power that you give them, at some level,
you're going to have more and more people who abuse it. It's just the nature of humanity. So how do you
bridle that? How do you manage it? And there are different people who answer that in different ways. Maybe you don't
do it at all, because it's just too risky.
So you get rid of the CIA altogether or you manage it better.
I always wonder if the deep state is the – and correct me – the organization itself is so big and so well entrenched that by the time there's a new president and they switch out John Podesta for – who's the guy now?
Bill Burr?
Bill Burr is the comedian.
Hopefully it will be Bill Burr.
That would be fun.
Bill Burn, right?
By the time you swap these people out, it doesn't matter who's at the top.
I'm doing my thing, and he doesn't know I exist.
I know who he is just to stay out of his hair.
Is there some truth to the fact that the apparatus is so big that the people at the top, they rotate and no one cares?
That's absolutely true. And this gets back to the point that was
made about whether it be term
limits, even in your bureaucracy,
your mid-level guys, or it's just
a size issue. You just expanded
the state in the past 20, 30 years
to such an extent that there are
so many people who have so many entrenched interests
that A, it slows down your mission,
but then B, you get more and more people who
can do more and more damage to your country because you give
them such expansive powers.
I'm a big fan of actually reducing, not just
the size of government, generally speaking,
which it's true, but
specifically the deep states
that work, the agency, the FBI. I certainly think
the administrative state, the deep state,
whatever you want to call it, is a serious problem.
But what about the arguments? And I'm not saying it's a good argument. want to call it, is a serious problem. But what about
the argument, and I'm not saying it's
a good argument, I'm just saying this is the argument made,
that if we curtail
our powers internationally and
domestically, China will take over
and then we'll be living in a unipolar Chinese
superpower planet.
So here's the deal. CIA ain't going to stop
China. The CIA and the FBI
are not going to stop China.
The FBI starts at least 10 cases every day against China right now.
We have over 100,000 Chinese nationals who come into this country every year.
So the issue isn't – it is like a dam that is bursting.
We're trying to put our finger in it to stop it.
You have good leadership within the White House and the House and the Senate that understands that China is a threat and starts treating them as such. The spies ain't going to
fix this one. The FBI ain't going to fix this. They just won't. So we don't need to expand the
administrative state to fix this problem. It's a political problem. You have to understand that
China hates us. They're trying to destroy us. We are their enemies. And so you start changing that
relationship. So for instance, you take your damn economy out of China.
Do you think Trump could have stopped China?
I think he tried with his trade deal.
I mean, he basically said, look, you guys start buying more of our stuff
because you're stealing our stuff, right?
So that's the thing that right now people are forgetting.
Biden is actually thinking about getting rid of the tariffs.
But Trump actually said, look, no, the tariffs ultimately are about saying to the Chinese,
you still steal billions of dollars of our economy,
our intellectual property, every year.
So you're going to start paying more through these tariffs,
or it's a penalty, right?
So now Biden's going to get rid of them.
Well, then what lesson have the Chinese learned?
They can keep stealing our stuff.
So my question, I suppose, was,
if Trump was working towards ending this expanding dominance of the Chinese economy and taking over our infrastructure, our manufacturing, things like that, I should say, our economic infrastructure, and the spies weren't able to stop it, but they were able to stop Trump, they effectively propped up China.
They've secured our doom on the global stage.
I will point out it's
not China though. It is the CCP,
the occupying force of that land.
Actual government of China is the Republic of
China located in Taiwan and they are very good
terms with us right now.
What would the deep state say if
China unleashed this
let's just call it a virus
and it went worldwide, would there be
penalties?
CCP.
FCCC.
The Chinese people are stuck under that totalitarian occupying force for real right now.
Mao seized control.
But removing the economy from China, we saw during COVID how 90%, 95% of our pharmaceutical
is based in China.
Nothing has been done to change that.
Now we look at similar geopolitics.
We look at Ukraine and we say, boy, this was really bad that we import 60% of our fertilizer
from Russia.
Nothing will change about that.
We used to produce our own pharmaceuticals.
We used to produce our own fertilizer.
The whole Gulf Coast was where we got them.
Why did we ever move these industries overseas?
And show me one person in the Senate. And there are lots of pro-America, I hate China, I hate Russia senators,
and they're all on the right. Show me one of them who is making a concerted effort to say,
I don't care what the global market says, AstraZeneca, Pfizer, Merck, fertilizer,
all of you have to come back to America because there is a geopolitical and national security
risk to
having these critical...
You want to get your olive oil from Italy?
That's great.
Get your cheese from France.
Totally cool.
But your fertilizer can't be made by your enemy, nor can your aspirin.
But there is not one serious piece of legislation to bring or movement to bring all these things
back to America.
None whatsoever.
We'll just watch China do it again and say, wow, that was really bad.
But, you know, thanks for my iPhone.
So this is, maybe I'm just, to be honest, a surface level dude.
I'm sitting here reading the internet thinking I know so much about, you know, geopolitics
and international conflict.
And I assume there's probably some CIA or FBI guy sitting in his office with all this
classified information just laughing,
being like, oh, if only you really knew.
Maybe that's the case.
I hope.
But I do.
I do.
Because I want to believe.
Right, exactly.
I want to believe they're sitting there saying, like, here's why we had to do what we did
because we are concerned about China taking over.
We are concerned about these Uyghur camps.
We're concerned about the Belt and Road Initiative.
We're concerned about oil exploration in South America.
But really what it feels like is Trump derangement syndrome went viral within these agencies.
Trump actually was doing things that were good on foreign policy, and they stopped him.
They stopped him.
And that's the problem of the deep state, the administrative state.
You know what the media tries to do?
They try to make you think the deep state is a cabal of people who meet below D.C. with robes on and have like a pentagram on the ceiling.
No, it's just that people who get jobs –
That's Hollywood.
Right.
That's Hollywood.
What it actually is – that's why Ian brought up administrative state.
J. Edgar Hoover, man.
It's people who don't get fired.
They're working there for 20 years between a bunch of different presidents, and Obama
gets elected.
He sits down, and they say, here's what's happening, and here's our plan, and the president
goes, okay, I guess.
And so they just do whatever they want, as long as they want.
J. Edgar Hoover was the head of the FBI for 48 years, 47 some years.
He ran the country.
He was running the country.
47 years he was the head of the FBI.
I've never been in the FBI, but I mean, what's the power?
I would imagine that power level is immense.
Amen.
So particularly without going into the history of the FBI, he absolutely decided the political winners and losers of this country.
And that's really what happened during the 2020 and 2016 election, particularly 2016 with Hillary Clinton and Trump, right? So after Trump was elected,
you had a bunch of former CIA and FBI officials, James Comey, leaking classified information to
force the appointment of a special counsel. Holy crap. I mean, this is one man, an FBI director,
who decided that Trump should not be in power, not because there was actual data or information
that said we had a problem, but he just didn't like the guy. So he goes to the New York Times,
leaks it in order to get Bob Mueller.
That is J. Edgar Hoover level stuff.
And we haven't seen that in a long, long time.
I foolishly believed that those dark days were over, but that showed me that no, it
ain't gone.
There are still absolutely people in positions without authority and power who still do this
J. Edgar Hoover stuff.
The Sussman trial stuff is crazy.
Yeah. We had Kash Battelle the other day
and
it's just shocking. The FBI
knew it was bunk almost immediately.
You had apparently one guy testify that Hillary
Clinton knew and signed off on the Russia
gate narrative fabrication.
Wow.
The agent, Sussman himself
who lied on the FISA warrant to get
these
to get the FISA warrant to get these –
Against Page.
To get the FISA.
So that's the same guy.
It is the same level of corruption and negligence and evil and dereliction of duty on a different level,
but it's the same idea as the 19 guys in Texas who stood in the hallway and listened to the gunshots.
This is exactly what your mission is, and you're like, yeah, but I'm not going to do it.
Like, you know this is a lie.
Yeah, but I'm not going to do it.
Like, you know what your job is right now,
and the oath you have taken,
yeah, I'm going to do the opposite.
You know, I'll tell you on one piece
that in the last couple weeks I did on my podcast
and talked a lot about that doesn't, I think,
get enough attention.
107,000 people last year died because of fentanyl or drug overdoses.
Most of them, of the 107,000, were fentanyl.
The point is most of that comes from China.
Those are precursor chemicals that come from China.
China knows these companies that are producing it.
They know that they, in turn, are dealing with Mexican cartel members,
and it's then all feeding into this country.
China is killing 100- plus thousand of our people.
Why are we not all like outraged that the communist government in Beijing is doing this
in concert and collaboration with Mexican cartels?
It is just, it should be getting far more attention, certainly than even Ukraine.
I mean, as much as that absolutely runs the risk of World War III, and I think we can talk
about that as well because I think we're getting there, that issue of dead Americans in this
country, especially in rural America, is so real and so painful for me personally, but for so many
others, it deserves more of our attention. And that's why, because it's rural America. And we
were saying to this before the show started, if the overdoses from fentanyl and Chinese opioids were Upper East Side collegiates,
this would have been stopped by now.
But it's mostly rural, mostly poor, mostly hillbilly whites, and we don't really care.
They targeted the farmers.
Exactly.
It is not a population the American government care about because they don't like them.
Even their own representatives don't like them.
Look for any liberal who represents a rural state who's running for office
even they are ashamed of their constituency they don't care but i'm gonna tell you right now in
pima county arizona where i am from if you were a kid the the thing that's going to get you in
terms of the thing that's going to kill you is fentanyl right now it's not car accidents not
it is fentanyl and pima county is not a rural white hillbilly area
you are right
the preponderance
is absolutely
that is true
but it's hitting communities
in lots of parts
of this country
black, brown
it doesn't matter
it is hitting
our young people
most especially
because that shit
pardon my language
is mixed up
with weed
or with other stuff
and they're like
hey let's experiment
let's try and have a good time
and then they end up dead
because there's just
such tiny amounts of that.
They end up killing you.
I find it to be an extension of the opium wars.
Apparently, this is when the British and other Europeans were shuffling opium into China.
They were basically colonizing China in the mid-1800s.
And they were like, we're going to wreck their population, make them incapable of fighting, and then we're going to conquer it and take it as another colony like what they did with India. But the Chinese eventually fought back and pushed them back to the coast
and off and into Taiwan or Hong Kong or these islands.
But it never ended for them.
They play the long game.
Any wise regime thinks hundreds of years in the future
and will never forget what people are capable of.
And that's what they're doing.
They're sending it into Mexico, like you said, with the cartels,
using them to run it up into the country.
They're destabilizing our youth.
You see it in the
dysphoria movement. You see
in the shootings.
The pharmaceutical companies seem
to be capitalizing on it. They've actually created
medical fentanyl. I don't know
who's in charge of AstraZeneca. Who
actually prints this stuff?
They're working, colluding with
the CCP.
I want to talk to you guys about guns.
Because I had this tweet.
It's Friday, so I want to talk about my tweet.
I tweeted,
The government should provide all 16-year-olds with a free AR-15
after they pass firearm ed in high school.
If you haven't, then once you turn 18,
you should be entitled to one free AR-15 from the government
after passing a general knowledge test at the Department of Gun Services. Demand universal gun ownership
now, call your member of Congress, and demand they pass this legislation. A lot of people
said that I was trolling. I'm not. My point was that I saw all these memes from the left
where they said, we should treat guns like we treat cars. And I was like, you think that
goes only one way? They post these memes where they're like, got to get a license, got to
get insurance, got to register the gun, all of that stuff. And I was like, okay, I can use that same argument,
go the other direction. We allow 16 year olds to drive cars. Okay. So 16 year olds should get guns.
We also have a gun rights in the constitution. So you want to argue for universal healthcare?
I'll argue for my universal demand as well. Government should pay for my guns. But let
me tell you where, where the juicy part of the tweet is at. Karl Marx said, under no pretext should workers surrender their arms and ammunition.
The true leftist position on guns should be an armed workforce and the government providing
guns to the people. It's just simple logic. Karl Marx, right? He said, never surrender your arms
and ammunition. Well, if you're a socialist, you don't think capital is going to fund the
creation of these guns, do you?
It's going to be the government, and they're going to provide it.
Tim, did AOC retweet this?
Is that what I'm seeing?
Did she like and retweet this?
No, she will.
That's strange. Why not?
I think the only problem I have with this tweet is that I don't think
getting your gun from the government is the best thing
because if they really want to conquer you,
they'll make the gun have a defect and then give it to you and they know how to exploit the defect i'm not saying
the only place to get the gun oh okay i'm saying you get a free one so it's a net positive and
you gotta get you'll probably want to get it checked out but universal gun ownership they
want to argue for universal health care i'm like okay cool well they say health care is a human
right i say gun ownership is a human right right okay? Okay, well then the government can pay for it and give everybody guns.
There we go. Any objections?
No.
Your right to own does not dictate a right to receive.
Well, of course. I agree.
Sorry for the logic. I think my only question
is at the
30,000 foot level, what are we considering the age
of adulthood? So if it's 16, and I know
you can drive at 16. Some places in rural
you can get a farmer's license to drive a heavy equipment at 14. You can't go on the road, but you can drive
a $500,000 combine, right? It's pretty awesome. But there's another movement, though, to move
the gun ownership age to 21. And I have a problem with voting at a certain age, but voting on
something that you cannot fully own
in a free society at another age.
I don't want to be able to vote at 18,
but I can't own something until I'm 21.
There's the movement,
as you were saying,
to vote at 16.
So 16-year-olds are going to make law
or vote for laws,
but I can't fully participate in that law
for five more years.
So if we're going to have
a real equitable society,
to use their words,
then if you have the right to vote on something, you must have the ability to have full participation
in that. So if we're going to make the voting age 16, then the gun age is 16, but then the draft is
16. But I don't want my 16-year-olds sending my 21-year-olds to war telling the 18-year-olds they
can't have a cigarette, a beer, or a gun. So something is wrong.
If we're going to say the age of adulthood now is 21 and we are a very immature society,
then it's 21 across the board. I have a darker interpretation of their desire for a 16-year-old voting age.
Well, they're stupid.
No offense to them listening.
It's not just stupidity.
It's if you're an adult at 16, that means you can do more than vote.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
It's a slippery slope.
At what point can you have sex with a 35-year-old, you know, 16 now?
What are they trying to do?
This is why when they try and lower the age of adulthood in a variety of ways, I'm kind of like, what are you really doing?
When you look at what's going on in these schools, you know, the grooming, and I see these memes from these liberals on Facebook where they desperately try to conflate the grooming argument with banning books and it's just like i see this meme and it's
you know they want to ban books and there's like an old man with a mag hat yelling and i was like
i think they were concerned about the graphic depictions of adult activities in those books
that were available to children if you're defending that yeah and and you're doing it out of ignorance or it's willful, then either way the outcome is the same.
When you come out and then say kids should be participating in governance at 16, it's like you're creating a threshold for which we reduce the age of adulthood.
Look, I don't know if 18, where that number comes about because it certainly 200 years ago was, you know, you were 13, you're considered a man or whatever.
I don't know if I agree with that.
18 kind of feels okay.
You know, gun ownership and all these things.
For everything, yeah.
You can be under 18 and have a gun if your parents take responsibility for it in most
places, like in Wisconsin and stuff like that.
I mean, you know, growing up, family farm, we hunted, you know, from when I was a very
young boy, but that was part of our culture.
We were taught how to use a firearm, respect a firearm.
And so it's this idea that a 16-year-old couldn't or a 14-year-old couldn't use a firearm
and be taught how to use it thoughtfully.
It's bizarre to me because I grew up in that culture.
Yeah, so I was shooting from the time I was like 10 years old.
My dad took us.
We had like a little shooting range in our back 40 probably not really on on par with what the law
wanted but my dad taught us how to use it he taught us how to be safe with it he said i'll give you a
dollar if you ever see the end of this gun while i'm holding it and of course he never gave us a
dollar because we never saw it and we understood how important that was yeah but somebody on twitter
earlier today i forget who it was i'm tweeted, how many of these mass shooters were young boys raised by fathers who taught them how to hunt?
It's a very valid question. I don't think any of them ever have been.
They have no dads.
Of course not. Yeah, it's very sad.
So that's why when I, in the days after these shootings and we hear Congress stand up and say
we need to pass this law or that law, this is the stuff, this is the conversation that we need to
have as a country, understanding who these individuals are, their families, the dynamics,
the health, mental health, all that, because you are so right. And whoever tweeted that,
bravo to them, because that's spot on. Yeah. And I remember thinking, I actually
had this conversation before I left the healthcare field with one of my coworkers,
and his dad wasn't really involved in his life. And there was a shooting.
And I was like, this is terrible.
But, man, I think one of the things that all of these shooters have in common
is that they don't have dads.
And he's like, what?
That's weird.
I really have to think about that.
He's like, that's a super hot take.
I'm like, I think it's true.
Sorry.
I'm afraid.
It's a couple things.
It's a dad to sit down with you and say, son, you need to understand responsibility
and what it means to have obligations to your community.
And it's also the moment when the dad bops you on the head and says, that was dumb.
What are you doing?
Being stupid.
He's a strong leader.
A dad to be like, how are you feeling?
Yeah.
Are you okay?
Yeah.
Maybe like a dad who's got long hair and is like a hippie with a bunch of crystals.
Yeah.
Maybe he used to smoke weed in his 20s.
Yeah. A bunch of crystals. Yeah, maybe use a smoke weed. But the point here is that I think that this conversation is just as valid as, hey, what about magazine limitations?
What about the type of weapon?
What about the age that we should give children up?
I think this conversation is just as important, if not more important.
But you hear also oftentimes from the left, they will say, oh, here are the right, here are the conservatives go again talking about family issues and about – knock it off.
Come on.
It's absolutely – it should be part of the conversation.
Well, we should have a magazine limit.
I really do think so.
They shouldn't – we should limit them to – they cannot be lower than 30.
It can't be at least, yeah.
I knew there was a caveat there.
I saw the tail on the face.
Here it comes. If we're going to look at society – Yes, yeah. I knew there was a caveat there. I saw the tail on the face. Here it comes.
If we're going to look at society for the last four generations or so,
so from like the baby boomers on,
and we're going to say that gun violence,
gun school shootings are now the anomaly.
Well, we have to look at that in context, right?
And that's just all they want to look at is like, wow, suddenly gun,
there are incidents of shootings at schools.
Therefore, it's a gun problem.
Well, what else is happening concurrently, right?
I mean, you can't just take one statistic and then isolate it.
And when you look at everything else that's happening, clearly fatherlessness is a huge problem.
Sexual perversion is a huge problem. What I love about Libs of TikTok, which is why they got banned from Twitter,
is I just wish you would find some liberal teachers
who are so enthusiastic about math and science
as they are about their genitals.
Yeah.
Indeed.
These teachers make nonstop videos
about telling their kids,
and I told my girl,
and it's like,
do you ever talk to them about reading?
Right?
So if you look at, again,
all these millions of statistics of five generations,
you can't just look at the shootings and say, wow, that's an anomaly.
It's a gun problem.
There's lots of other things that are spiking.
And if you say that, well, they're not happening, there's no correlation,
then you're just a liar or you're politically motivated.
The sexual perversion stuff is a huge problem.
You mentioned the grooming stuff. I mean, we have
hardcore drag
shows in children's
second grade classroom
and we're supposed
to pretend this is normal? Quite
frankly, and this is going to sound hard and I
don't want it to come out the wrong way,
I'm surprised there are not more school shootings
because our kids are so
messed up in the head.
They're told boys can get pregnant.
They have tampons in their bathroom.
They play on girls' teams.
These kids are so confused with everything.
And then their teachers don't even want to talk about English and math.
They want to talk about their dating lives.
And in case anyone out there starts to text, you do know I am married to a guy.
So I technically am in the community. It's a community I hate. It's alphabet soup that is
degenerative, that drives me insane. But we have to talk about these things.
The way the oppression Olympics go, you're out, Dan.
I'm not a good one. Yeah.
You're out, Dan. I'm not a good one. Yeah. You're a white man. But I mean, there's a role for me to play in this because you, a lot of people, you
cis people can't have these conversations.
The cisgender people can't.
You are cis.
Am I cis?
Yes.
Oh, crap.
What does cis mean?
Not trans.
Not trans.
So Ian and I...
Oh, good.
I am cis.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I knew I was somewhat...
What's up, cis?
What you mean to say is cis het.
Yeah, not cis het.
Cis gender heteronormative.
You are not heteronormative.
None of those things are real.
I will, right?
I thought I was Irish.
Virtual reality.
All these different words.
I don't even know what they mean.
They don't even have meaning.
People create them.
They don't have meaning.
I got no problem with that, to be honest.
That's how language evolves.
Yeah, language evolves. If a group of, yeah, language evolves.
If a group of people are like,
if someone isn't trans, what are they? They call it cis.
It's like a math thing. I'm like, yo,
I literally don't care what words you use as long as
we're effectively conveying ideas to each other.
But the problem is it's not just the creation
of new words, it's the
corruption of existing words.
Like racism.
That's been a huge problem for a long time
as to what racism really means.
Now, people can come out and say
cis and trans and whatever, and I'm like, as long as I
understand you, we can have a conversation.
But we don't understand each other anymore.
Ricky Gervais is being cancelled from Netflix
because of his transphobic jokes.
They're not transphobic.
They're jokes about trans people. They're jokes about Polish people.
They're jokes about Catholics. But he didn't get booted, did he? They were threatening transphobic. They're jokes about trans people. They're jokes about Polish people. They're jokes about Catholics.
But he didn't get booted, did he?
They were threatening to pull him.
I'm sure Netflix can't afford to have any more problems.
Netflix fired their diversity people.
I'm pretty sure he's safe.
He's safe.
But I mean, it's not a transphobic joke.
It's a joke about trans people.
And if you're getting made fun of, welcome to the frigging club.
I remember talking to a Mormon when Book of Mormon came out,
and he was saying that he found it very offensive, Book of Mormon.
I was like, as a Catholic, let me tell you, it's about damn time someone else's religion
was made fun of by mainstream culture.
So welcome to being like everyone else.
That's what he said.
Ricky Gervais said he thinks trans people should have rights and be treated like everyone else,
and that's why he's going to make fun of them
that's what true equality is
it is
it means if everybody is equal
then everybody is fair game for being mocked
I talked about this a little bit on Pop Culture Crisis
a couple days ago
if a soldier loses a limb in the military
in a war or something
you don't smash people for. You don't like, ha-ha, you losing your, you don't smash people
for what they don't have.
And maybe people feel like that.
They're like, I'm not normal,
so you're making fun of my non-normalcy
and that's really getting me
where I can't defend myself.
I get that.
But at the same,
I don't like making other people
the butt of my jokes.
I kind of stop doing that
just in general.
Although, one of the things,
if I can,
so I have hung out with a ton of guys in the military
who have lost arms and legs because of Iraq and Afghanistan.
And I've also hung out with tons of guys
who are in the military and they're gay
or we have lesbian service members, whatever it may be.
The way that you know that you are in with that group
is when somebody makes a crack at you.
Yeah, that's right.
I was with about 15 guys at Black Rifle Coffee Company.
Most of those guys that they hire have lost limbs.
Some of those guys, when they walk in, they'll be like, their legs, their arms are really
loud and noisy because they're half fucking robots, right?
The point is that they will make fun of each other about like, hey, quiet down, man.
You're rude. We're trying to have a conversation, right? And he's like, sorry, it's my knee. But they fun of each other about like hey quiet down man you're rude we're trying to have a conversation bro and he's like sorry it's my knee you know but they'll
give each other a hard time and it's this beautiful moment of like you know that you
you are in a family a brotherhood by just telling good jokes about each other there's a really great
wojack meme where it's a guy is leaving and he's like see you later dickheads and they're like
screw off you know a-hole and then it's like f you and then as soon as he's gone they're like that's a cool dude yeah he's great
then it shows the women oh god and no one's like bye honey love you you're so sweet see you soon
and then as soon as she's gone what a bitch that's why i don't that's why i have fewer females
friends i think but i wanted to say too that it does feel great when somebody makes a joke with
you about something that maybe you can't even change that you're just like oh yeah that's
actually pretty funny and i feel now like i'm part of your in group it's very valuable it's
important so much of it oh sorry to interrupt there at the end i wanted to capitalize on what
you were saying it's the delivery like if you can deliver it in a in emotionally in a loving way
then it's received in a loving way but when it it's in text, no one can sense. Amen. And they'll take Gervais' jokes and they'll put them in text and be like, look how horrible.
Yes.
Yeah.
And the performance has a full arc.
How did he get to that point?
There was a segue.
They cut all that out and they just take the sentence and they're like.
Context.
But I just love how all the hit pieces against Ricky Gervais are literally what he was complaining about.
Yeah. love how all the hit pieces against ricky gervais are literally what he was complaining about yeah he was actually talking about the woke cancel culture and how they're demanding special
privileges because they don't want to be made fun of but he was like but everybody is is equal so
we're all gonna be made fun of and then they write articles saying he's a transphobe and he's violent
and he's dangerous absolutely absurd yeah but i mean the alphabet soup, which is really run by just communists, like all minority groups in activism right now, you can't have it both ways.
You can't say this immutable characteristic makes us so special and so unique and so different that we have to celebrate it, but we also want to get treated like everybody else.
If you want to get treated like everybody else, that stinks. Because when you're treated like everybody else,
you're standing in line.
We all want the Emerald Club status
at the airport
so that we can bypass all the lines
and we can have a fancy drink.
But equality is not fun.
So the alphabet two people,
we want our special,
and God, it's almost June 1,
and then I have a whole freaking month.
Don't worry, Don't worry.
Flip your Ukraine
flag and put up your
rainbow flag.
Just unfollow all the brands and follow the
Saudi Arabian ones and you're good.
That's his life hack. I love it.
You said something earlier, Daniel, I thought was really interesting
where you said you were almost surprised that there weren't
more shootings. I am. I don't want to take
away too much from where we were headed with the jokes
and Ricky Gervais because I love this conversation.
But I've had that same thought.
Like, why is it not?
But then I'm thinking about people driving on the road
and how so many people drive past each other all day on the road
over and over these thousands or hundreds of miles,
140 miles difference, 70-70,
and they don't hit each other because they don't want to.
And most people don't want to hurt each other.
It's very, very, very rare, and it's more of an aberration on these kids that's causing it.
So I'm actually not surprised that they're trying not – people don't want that.
That's like a desperation tactic.
Look at the tribal conflicts.
It can reach a point.
So Northern Ireland, for instance.
I remember I was getting a tour of Northern Ireland and there's like a memorial for when
a group of guys went and shot and killed another group of guys.
And on one side of town,
they're like, these guys were heroes.
Another side of town, like these guys were villains.
And it's just like, there was no reason to do that.
They didn't earn or gain anything.
It was just pure tribalism.
You can look at the literal tribalism
with what we've seen in Africa
where one day one tribe goes out and starts beating and killing the other tribe for almost no reason.
Just the hatred within them.
When you start to see some of these tweets where there was one guy who said, I wish all Republicans get cancer and die excruciating deaths, it's getting scary.
It's getting to this point where you turn on the TV and you know MSNBC is not even trying to talk to you.
But, I mean, even we do it.
We know there's a group of people who don't care to watch us or even listen to what we have to say, so we just eventually tune them out.
But this creates separate spaces, which is ripe for developing a hatred more and more for the opponent, for the other. And that's the problem with a lot of our elected leaders.
And, you know, Biden is president right now.
So you can say, well, you tell me Trump was president.
That's a hypothetical.
Biden is president.
And he had his moment after this shooting to say something.
And what he chose was nothing but division and attacking his political enemies.
He did not offer the slightest sense of healing, of sorrow.
He didn't even evoke the names and memories of these kids and talk about, you know, just
an evil in society.
He talked about the NRA and he talked about Republicans who won't pass comments.
He resurrected 40-year-old talking points.
It might have been the election of 1976, right?
And so I agree with you.
You know, we are falling into these rival camps.
But if our leaders don't start, I want to pull up this tweet thread from
Zach Seward, who is the
editor-in-chief at Quartz,
who posted one of the most
deceptive, falsely framed
articles I've ever seen. Such a lie.
It's a really good example of the problems we face.
Before I start this by criticizing
the mainstream media for lying to you, I want to point
out that there absolutely are conspiracy theorists and lunatics and cult members on the right.
They exist.
Sure.
But they're not VC funded.
They don't have investors who are giving them all of this money.
There are some small right-wing outlets, conservative outlets that do get funding,
but they're not nearly as bad as this.
They wrote a story.
We ordered the same gun used in Uvalde.
Here's how easy it was.
He says,
it was just like ordering groceries.
Click, check out, done.
He's getting roasted for this.
Seriously.
Because while in the piece it does mention
you have to go through a background check
and all that stuff,
the way they frame it is incredible.
Take a look at this.
He says,
at no time were we asked for proof of age
or of a clean criminal record,
both of which are legally required
to buy a firearm.
That will happen when we pick up the gun at our local licensed dealer.
That's right.
The headline is everything.
Here's how easy it was.
They're trying to convince you.
Not only that, but he goes on to say it was an assault rifle.
He says, some people don't know how easy it is to go online and buy an assault rifle.
He didn't buy one, though.
He did not buy an assault rifle. He didn't buy one, though. He did not buy an assault
rifle. It's just
a misrepresentation,
and this is what leads people who are
traditional liberal or trusting in the news
into believing wrong information.
So what this tells me is he's not
actually interested in having a thoughtful conversation.
It's about an agenda. So very
clearly this is about creating
this drumbeat, this hysteria to ban not just this gun, but really all guns, right?
So it's a war then on guns.
And if, in fact, that's the idea, then the question becomes, particularly from that outlet that we know is a lefty outlet,
why do they want to remove all guns?
Is it really just about trying to save the kids in school?
I'm not so sure that's true.
I think most people would say there's probably another agenda here.
So that kind of headline, by the way, we know that Americans rarely read down into an article.
I think that is around 60% or 70% of people only read the headline.
And then the remainder of that is only the first paragraph.
So I think 3% or 5% of people actually read the whole story.
So these folks know that.
I want to give a shout-out to a journalist.
This is a story I did.
I covered just almost three years ago from Business Insider.
This journalist wrote, I tried to buy a gun at Walmart twice, and roadblocks left me empty-handed both times.
This was actually a good story, and I give credit to this journalist.
She had misconceptions about what buying a gun was like.
She went to a Walmart and said, I'm going to see what happens.
And when she got roadblocked, she wrote that she was.
Good for her.
This is like one of the biggest segments I've ever done.
It's got 2.7 million views.
I'm surprised.
But I didn't criticize her and mock her.
I was like, this is great.
A reporter actually decided to investigate what it's like to get guns because they weren't familiar with it.
And they were honest with their audience about not being able to buy one.
That's the reality.
The shocking thing about Quartz is that there are two dozen outlets just like that, right,
between Quartz and Axios and Mother Jones.
And you just go on and on and on.
And they're all the same.
And they're all funded by basically the same venture capitalist lefty ideologue billionaires.
They all have the same agenda.
They're all intermarried, right, which is weird.
They all know each other, kind of like the one conspiracy.
Not a conspiracy.
The one thought is who the leaker is at the Supreme Court document when went through of, you know,
who's married to who and who was a bridesmaid at who's wedding.
They all know each other.
It's a caste system.
There are very few outlets on the right
of this side. There are a couple, right? We know them.
The Beacon, The Daily Caller, they're great publications
but they're paltry
in number compared to the left.
And you look at the
funding that goes into these
left-wing Democrat or whatever publications,
hundreds of millions of dollars, and then you look at right-wing publications
who sometimes get some funding but not really.
What was that CIA program where they were working directly with media?
Was that Mockingbird?
Yeah, I think it is.
There's two of them, I'm pretty sure.
I thought you were going to ask me about the time that we operated on the cat
and the cat was going to be actually a listening device.
Did it survive?
That's another one.
Is that true?
That's a real thing.
That is true.
They tried.
We did that.
People love cats.
I'm sorry.
They let them into their bed at night.
I'm so sorry.
They tried implanting a microphone in the cat?
Yes.
So this is what they did.
They actually put the listening device in the ear, and then they used the antenna,
and they built another part in the back, kind of in between the shoulders.
And what they did is they took the cat
because, hey, it's just a cat. It's innocuous.
And they took the cat and they
set it next to two gentlemen
to test it on a park bench.
I know what happened, I think. And unfortunately
Kitty Kitty did not stay there on the park bench
to listen. He's another cat.
So the cat
ran, unfortunately,
in front of a taxi cab.
Oh, no.
Oh, my gosh.
The cat didn't want to be part of it.
Nope.
Good for the cat.
The cat did not survive.
The ultimate sacrifice.
The cat did the honorable thing.
You can't force a cat to join the deep state.
No, you can't.
You can't.
They are individuals.
No.
But speaking of Mockingbird, which I brought up, what the heck?
This is from 1948. I i mean this has been going
on for a long time the cia basically right after formation was like we got to control the media
it's not just mockingbird we talked about this with luke uh rickowski if we are changed there
was something that happened in the 70s where a senator i think came out and said the cia is
working directly at these news outlets yeah do you i don't know if it was mockingbird well so
there was a huge dust up throughout the 70ss where basically the House and the Senate were like,
you guys are doing way too much in the CIA, and they had committee hearings.
Frank Church was one of the senators from Idaho.
And there were others.
They looked into this, and the CIA director, they called him on the carpet, both overtly, that is to say,
out in public and behind the curtain.
And like, you guys are killing way too many people uh without authorization and you're a bunch of cowboys and some of these programs that you're talking about
were part of that conversation that we need to rein you in because we've given you too much power
and y'all are abusing it and it's not just you the cia it's the president and all the president's men
as it were who were like hey you know with military, we can't do certain things, but we can use this tool at the CIA and we can have them go kill various people or foment uprising, etc.
Right. Or, yes, the media piece we can start to control and manipulate.
And so, again, it gets back to this.
If you give people power, some percentage of them are going to abuse it.
But if you give them a whole bunch of power, it is game on in terms of your country. And that's really, for me, in the past five, ten years, has completely changed my understanding of giving so much power to the CIA or NSA or FBI.
They will abuse it.
They have abused it.
And we've got to pull that back both in terms of the size and the authorities because they have too much.
Still a lot of great people doing great work at those places.
But you give them too much power and you're going to have these problems.
And our country is in trouble because of it.
Yeah, I think a lot about the people because I speak a lot of crap about the administrative
state and how it's overblown.
But I think the people, the other night I was like, I don't want to hurt these people.
Not that the horseback riders in 1902, I mean, the automobile was coming.
They still lost their jobs.
I don't want to see these people lose their gigs.
And the problem is when
they're the ones that control the assassination attempts so anyone that's going to try and unseat
them from their gig is a is real threat it has a big like yo you don't want to anger people that
control the button like basically but if it is i mean you think we'd be better better off without
these organizations i think of the i think of the fed of the Fed in Michigan who's doing a covert op and he's on a chat room with some
guy who's like, I hate Governor Whitman.
I think we should assassinate him.
And he's like, let's plan the kidnapping.
And then they're having meetings and then all of a sudden, at no point are people like,
wait a second, we're actually going to plan to kidnap the governor just to trap this one
looter?
Aren't we taking this a little too far, guys?
You know, they're ordering vans, and someone's going to Hertz,
and they're picking up a rope, and it's like,
I think we're getting a little too excited about kidnapping the governor, guys.
I know we want to catch this bad dude, but this is getting a little crazy.
So at what point does, yeah, when you said they need to be reined in,
I think that's an example of reining it in.
And it kind of strikes me bizarre that no one in the hierarchy was like, I think you guys need to slow down the kidnapping plan.
This is a little crazy.
Would it look more like if it was reining in?
Would it be like this NSA no longer exists?
What was the NSA form?
2000?
2001?
Was it after 9-11?
Or has it been around longer than that?
It's been around longer.
But, yeah, look, here's where I come down on this.
I think it's absolutely reasonable based on what we have seen over the past 10-plus years,
certainly since the 2016 election.
It's reasonable for people to say the intelligence community has grown too big and too powerful.
Just like it did back in the 1970s, we need to remove some of the authorities.
We need to have more oversight
because we recognize
that there might be a need
for collection of foreign intelligence
to understand what our adversaries are doing.
Fine.
Or a domestic law enforcement capacity.
We need to find some bad guys
here in the country.
Fine.
But it's gotten too big
and there's too much power
and we need to pull that back in.
And that happens
after we have the House and the Senate.
If they actually functioned,
they would do the investigations into that
to figure out how bad the problem is.
And then we figure out how deeply we have to rein it in.
Absent a functional Congress,
that's when the American media is supposed to do the work,
do that investigative work to expose some of this stuff.
But when you have a media that is so in the tank
for folks, particularly on the left, what's their incentive to actually get to the bottom of some of this stuff. But when you have a media that is so in the tank for folks, particularly on the left, what's their incentive
to actually get to the bottom of some of these abuses? There's no outside function
right now that's keeping power in check. The House, the Senate,
nope. The President, nope. Our media, nope. That's the problem of this moment.
And I think it's compounded by the fact that, no offense,
you all seem to be really bad at your job.
I mean, in the sense that it's like, you know, our intelligence shows that, you know, Afghanistan will stand on its own.
No.
Our intelligence shows that Kiev will fall within three days.
No.
It's like our intelligence shows, like, do you guys have anything right?
Like, is there anything that is accurate?
Okay, so first of all, totally fair.
So on my podcast, President's Daily Brief, we covered this.
We talked about this.
You as taxpayers are paying billions and billions of dollars to the intelligence community to act on your behalf.
You should be asking questions if they're falling short.
So that's fair.
I want to pull up this article from Army Times.
Foreboding Army PSYOPs recruitment video shows who's pulling the strings.
A lot of people were bringing this up to us saying it was a really, really creepy video.
I want to play it.
It is a little long, but I've not seen it.
But Daniel was just bringing up that the CIA, their intelligence agencies, get so much wrong.
And I wonder, are they really getting it wrong or are they just trying to manipulate you?
Perhaps you assume that they're a bunch of bumbling, slipping on banana peels,
and maybe that's what they want you to think.
Because Sun Tzu had quotes about this, right?
When you're strong, make your enemy believe you are weak.
When you're weak, make your enemy believe you are strong.
So I've never seen this.
I don't know if we can play the full thing, but we'll play Ghosts in the Machine,
a controversial psychological operations advertisement from the army.
Does that sound good?
Nice.
If your opponent is of choleric temper, seek to irritate him.
That sounds like Sun Tzu.
Pretend to be weak that he may grow arrogant.
You see?
My man.
Sun Tzu.
All right.
This is getting pretty creepy.
Love that guy.
Oh, clowns.
Strong start.
Have you ever wondered?
No.
Who's pulling the strings?
Wolves hiding nearby. Born from the ashes.
Is that the emblem of the psychological operation of some?
A world at war?
You'll find us in the shadows hmm
this is inspiring
at the tip of the spear
a threat rises in the east
what the hell is this
Russia invades Ukraine
it's pretty new
yeah this is from earlier this month.
Warfare is evolving.
Who put this out?
This is the fourth PSYOP group.
And all the world's a stage.
Yo, this is creepy!
It's like a movie.
Shakespeare.
There is another very important phase of warfare.
It has as its target not the body, but the mind of the enemy.
The target of psychological warfare is against the enemy's mind.
It is words and ideas.
Ammunition used by cyborgs.
Anything we touch is a weapon.
Its mission is to influence the thoughts of the enemy's thoughts. anything we touch is a weapon we can deceive persuade
change
influence
inspire and sympathetic understanding of all phases of human experience. Gripping at my
skin
the walls of night
closing. We come in many forms
but the use of this force as an
integral part of combat has now
taken on new form.
We are everywhere.
That's what they want you to think.
Seven score. That's what they want you to think. I said it was cool.
A feeling in the dark.
A message in the stars. Ghosts in the machine.
What are we? Psywar. What the we?
Psy War.
What the heck?
What is this?
Is this really it?
Who put that together?
Army Psy Ops Recruitment Video.
That's what they're saying.
Really?
I don't want to fact check that.
That's interesting.
So I can respond to that silliness.
Okay.
It's all fake. It's all boring. Oh, my God. Okay. It's all fake.
It's all boring.
Oh, my God.
Okay, a couple of things.
I would join.
Right.
I feel like you already did.
So I'll tell you, we get by, that is to say, in the intelligence community, folks get by with this kind of stuff. Everybody thinks that Intel people are 10 feet tall and they're scary and amazing.
They can do anything they want.
James Bond.
But I'm telling you, that ain't how it is.
All right.
I, and I can share this story with you.
I was looking to work with our group of folks who go out into the world and hire NOCs, right?
Those are people that we would never officially recognize as intelligence officers.
And I asked our NOC hiring officials, what do you look for?
And she said to me, we don't look for the F students, obviously, or the D students,
as it were, sort of A, B, C, D, F, the grades, right?
D or F students, those kids don't work.
But we can't hire A and B because they're too good and smart, and they don't want to put up with the bureaucratic baloney that this place has. So what we
have to try to find is like a good solid
C plus student. That's me.
You serve...
Well, I'll put in a good word for you.
Since I'm still a fed.
I think it actually is just like the movies
because I've seen a lot of Burn Notice
and you do look and talk
like Michael Weston. Is that right?
So they want people that are not so adherent and you do look and talk like Michael Weston. Is that right? Okay. It doesn't matter what I say.
It doesn't matter what I say.
So they want people that are not so adherent to authority
that they'll get A's and B's
because that's what they're told to do,
but they're not so stupid that they can't follow along,
that they're willing to join,
but they're also willing to betray.
A and B students are after,
they have ambition,
but they want efficiency.
They want accomplishments.
You can go out into the private sector and earn a ton want accomplishments. You can go out into the
private sector and earn a ton of money. You can go be successful as your A and B students,
but your C plus student, they tend to struggle more in life. So you need somebody that isn't
quite tip of the spear, as that video just said. But that shouldn't be true, by the way. We should
want A students and B students working for our government because we want efficiency. We want smarts. We
want the best we can get. So I don't buy that video because of that, having been on the inside.
But I understand why people might think that that's true. The only other quick caveat I'd add
is there is one part of me that loves that because when I was out as an officer, I was meeting with
a source and he was like,
why aren't you taking notes?
I'm telling you all these great and amazing things.
Well, I didn't need to.
I was able to capture it.
And he paused.
He's like, wait a minute.
I've seen the movies.
Do you have a microphone in your shoe?
And I was like, I do.
He was like, oh, this is so cool.
Burn Notice was a cool show man
one of my favorite scenes is when
you guys have seen Burn Notice right?
negative no
you've never seen it?
it's so good
so it's this former CIA contractor
and he's always trying to
he's basically a contractor now for private individuals
trying to help the little guy
and he explains to you how he does things and why
and it's fascinating
so he's like he's trying to scare a bad guy so he takes things and why and it's fascinating so he's like
he's trying to scare
a bad guy
so he takes a cell phone
tapes it to a box
and then runs
the power cable
to the wall
to make him think
there's a bomb
and he was like
that's like the
psychological manipulation stuff
so that's what that show does
I love that show
that show is amazing
so what I will tell you
that this contracting thing
is actually really important
so we just watch
this is the army
is trying to convince everybody
that they're the 10-foot monster.
If you want to talk about power
and the authority
to influence and persuade,
that power does not sit
within the military
and it doesn't sit within the CIA.
It sits in Hollywood.
It sits in New York
and in D.C.
in terms of those media
operating rooms
deciding what the editorial line
for the day is going to be,
what the American people
need to think about.
It's the people
who write the headlines knowing that 70, 80% of people don't read the story, for the day is going to be, what the American people need to think about. It's the people who write the headlines,
knowing that 70%, 80% of people don't read the story, just the headline.
That's your power.
And if you want to shape an agenda,
if you want to push people into believing something,
that's where you spend your time and your money.
It ain't in some whiz-bang CIA operation that's propaganda,
which, by the way, that was good back in the 50s,
and it's not so great now.
But anyway, that's where your power is.
One thing about the video, if we could ask your huge followers,
I feel like I'm pretty well-traveled in this country.
I can't think of what city has bright orange subway cars.
So if all of your followers right now, if you could be like, oh, yeah, that's the subway in Delaware.
I showed it twice, and I'm like, I know America pretty well.
I grew up in New York City.
I know subways well.
I can't think,
so if anyone out there.
It's not so much the color
or the shape of them.
Maybe it wasn't an American city,
but I will say I learned something
in my quest to purchase
Times Square billboards.
You can actually buy
an entire train
and put whatever you want on it.
Let's do that.
Yeah.
I would just love to think
that the army used
like the subway
of Amsterdam
for a recruitment video.
I've been thinking a lot
about using the media
like you were saying
to I guess manipulate
is the word,
not whatever.
Sounds like people are saying
someone's at Japan.
Oh, interesting.
Maryland.
I saw Denmark.
People are just saying whatever.
Nah, they're just saying whatever.
It's all the same nonsense.
But like how do you use
the media to please everyone?
And I know you can't please everyone all the time, Abraham Lincoln quote.
But I want to really make the world better and create new technologies like running fresh water, solar-powered heat,
things that will make us more resilient as a species, make people laugh, make people relax.
Like even the head of the CIA and Kim Jong-un want to laugh and relax a little bit.
But I've also got to make sure people have enough food.
I don't know if there's people that actually want to starve the population so that it grows slower.
You hear about Bill Gates talking about reducing the growth rate.
And I don't know if there are people that really want that, which seems crazy.
But other than that, do you think we could actually use the media?
I mean, that it's possible?
Well, look, are there people in this world who have a particular agenda for an environmental
issue or the global population or whatever, and then they use their money to affect that
outcome?
Damn straight.
I mean, we have foundations in this country, all over the world, in fact, but the United
States have a massive number of private family foundations that chase after
whatever their own family's goals might be. Okay, so it's not, it wouldn't be a wild assumption
to hear or an argument to hear somebody say, this family or this person really gets excited
about X issue. Now they're really going to change all of our lives just because they and their big
money want to change it. So absolutely there's precedent for that.
Every day we've got it.
The second piece, though, tell me again.
It's more of like, I don't know.
I'm asking if it's possible.
I mean, I know you don't have the answer, but do you think it's possible to fix this planet, bring people together, like all of us together?
Yeah, and I'll tell you what.
Real quick, sorry to interrupt.
Watching the ad, there's an advertisement, and it looks to be in German.
Oh, interesting.
So then it was made by the army.
In the subway.
So we're talking that was the German army that was putting that out?
That's a heck of a lot better than our army ads.
That's how good the psychological warfare is.
It's meta.
They kept showing the Statue of Liberty.
That's why I was like, they're trying to make you think it's New York, but that's not New York.
Let's be really honest for a second.
Europe's military is a joke.
Come on.
In Ukraine, do you recall when things were bubbling up?
What did Germany offer the Ukrainians?
5,000 helmets.
Get out of here.
Their military is absolutely hollowed out.
So anyway, that's ridiculous.
But I will tell you, in terms of the media stuff, how can we shape?
How can we encourage?
How do we grow as a people, as a country, as a species, whatever it might be?
No joke, and I'm not saying it because I'm here.
It's this.
These kinds of shows are where it happens because what you do is you encourage people to think for themselves and to think critically.
You give them information and you say, hey, look, here's my bias.
Here's what I think. Here's the data that supports my argument. But I'll tell you what,
your call. You decide. It's up to you. That's what we have to encourage each other to do.
That's what I do on my podcast. That's what you all do here on this show every day.
That's how we shape the world. We now control the information. We put it out there. And if people trust us, not just because, oh,
they seem smart, but they know that day in and day out when we talk to them, we say, here's the data,
you decide. Here's why it's important to you, but it's your call. Then people are less like,
what are you trying to do to me? What are you trying to get me to buy? What are you trying to
manipulate me to think? All I'm doing is saying, here's the information. Here's what I think, but y'all make the call.
Well, that's what's so fascinating about then the role of tech, right? So here's the data.
You make the decision. I work in the environmental and energy space, and here's the data. So
you don't believe in climate change. I'm deplatformed from Facebook. You're not allowed to be a
climate denier on Facebook. And you say, well, I'm not denying anything. I'm just saying here's a set of facts that need to be discussed, not on our platform because you don't care.
And what you just said, sometimes you strike me that you say some of the sweetest, most humanitarian things.
And you said, make the world a better place and give solar heat and clean water.
You know where they didn't discuss any of that sentiment if if you paid attention the last couple of days, was Davos.
All those world leaders gathered and they talked about what we will do.
Oh, there's the photos of that.
I had to know.
Confirmed?
Germany?
Berlin?
It's Berlin.
Did we know that the German army was joining our PSYOPs group?
I don't know why we wasn't US.
You know who was the last one that made it
join the german army ed i'm just saying not too soon they went they bought stock footage
they did they bought some footage it seemed like a subway subway car uh yeah from getty images but
but anyway your sentiment of how do we find solutions to the problems that will make the world a better, more peaceful, more healthy, more prosperous place at the individual level.
You looked at those yahoos in Davos and all they did was talk about what can we do to make them obey.
How do we cut countries off the global monetary and banking system if they won't vaccinate their people and everyone claps.
And John Kerry, how do we punish people that will vaccinate their people and everyone claps and John Kerry how do we punish people
that will not accept
climate change
and everyone claps
that whole thing
should have been
we should have built
a wall around Davos
and forced them to live there
and given them
some primitive weapons
and hunger games
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some super chats.
I'm going to start with one
that's just closer to the end
and then we'll go back
to the beginning.
But Catman says,
Tim, I listen on Spotify normally.
You should put something
to mark the ads.
Around the 27-minute mark
talking about death penalty,
your ad read started with,
I'd like to know
where my meat comes from.
Oh my gosh, that's amazing.
Whoa. Well, you know,
that's how it works. We cannot control that. I'm
sorry. That's great. All right.
Spiro Floropolis says,
sources say.online
Tim's word queue idea is in
beta mode. If anybody at Timcast
wants access to try it, please reach me. I've
emailed Spin the UFO before, or tell me
who and how to contact to give access. I don't understand that.
I'll explain it to you.
Do you want to check the Spin the UFO for Spiro Floropolis?
Yeah, I can.
So I've been having this thing, you know, ranting about Wikipedia, how we should sue them.
You can't.
Wikipedia can create a defamatory article, but because it's community generated, no one can be sued.
You can't sue Wikipedia because they're protected by Section 230.
You can't sue the individual editor because they don't make a complete statement.
If an editor writes, Daniel Turner raises sheep or lamb.
That's true, right?
Okay, you can't sue that person.
What if someone then goes in and changes raises to you know what
he's gonna say oh boy brutalizes yes that's definitely not true they never said you did
they added one word you can't sue someone for saying one word uh it's not defamation you can
argue it is because of the place they put it in but they can be like i just put in a single word
i didn't i didn't do anything mean, so who do you sue?
I think the closest argument you can get to is,
well, because of all the other words that were there,
you're the one who completed the statement by changing the word,
technically that person,
but they never actually said anything, so it's arguable.
And I've talked to lawyers about this.
They're like, I don't know who you sue.
You can't sue anybody, I guess.
So the idea for this program is we will create an article.
We'll title it Nancy Pelosi.
And then as soon as you load the page, you are placed in a queue based on when you loaded it first, second, third.
So if you're the first person in, it will say sources say blank.
You get to write one word.
The next person who loaded the website can put the second word.
And as the article gets bigger, you'll get more and more time to figure out your work
because you've got to read it.
But then every individual has only written one word.
Who are you going to sue?
So you'll have this really long article making this really ridiculous statement
with no one who can be sued.
Try and sue the person that owns the website.
Then Wikipedia will get sued.
Exactly.
You can't.
It's section two.
We didn't write it. It's users. I love't. It's section two. We didn't write it.
It's users.
I love that.
It's their rules,
so play them.
Yeah, brilliant.
And what we'll do too
is we'll make it so that
when you add the word,
it doesn't actually put the word
in the article
until the article's done
because then no one
wrote the article.
Love it.
They might be able to argue
that like,
well, there were 700 words
already there
and you put that word in there
so it completed a statement.
It's like, okay,
well, we won't then.
You'll read it. You'll add your word and then once it's done, it'll go completed a statement. It's like, okay, well, we won't then. You'll read it,
you'll add your word
and then once it's done,
it'll go connect them all.
It's like Mad Libs,
but better.
Yes.
All right, let's read some more.
Ashton DeRojas says,
can you let people know
Schumer is planning a Senate vote
on two gun control bills
day after Memorial Day
and to call your state reps
and senators
to oppose these bills?
Better yet,
call your state reps and senators and demand they repeal the NFA.
Yes.
And abolish the ATF, I suppose.
And why don't we get some Republicans who actually want to repeal some of these gun laws?
Like Robbie Starbuck.
All that keeps happening is Republicans are like, we'll compromise with you Democrats and ban some stuff.
And then Democrats just keep saying ban more. They're just raking in the money man these congress people that should have been out after four years maybe eight years
all right beckmeister says new york shooters discord username
discord id about me you can't begin to imagine how we get them to do the things they do
i mean but is that that could be anybody.
This could be a random crazy person who's trying to egg on people.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Eden Hiddick.
Tim, you are right that meds can cause these mass shootings.
I say this as someone who was almost driven by medication-induced insanity into doing one.
I'm willing to get into contact if you want to know more.
That's crazy.
Yeah, people go crazy.
Yeah, really.
Rob Short says, press F to abolish this Fed.
Oh, no.
They're talking about you.
No.
I got it.
How about this?
Hold on.
I thought they were talking about the Fed.
Smash the like button to end the Fed.
I'm rolling 100-sided.
Yes.
We're going to end the Fed.
Let's see what we got.
Oh, no.
I rolled an 18.
Ah, boo.
At least I'm old enough to vote.
I'm just saying, at the end of the night, you guys have to turn everything upside down
and make sure there are no bugs.
Yeah.
All your little knickknacks.
Just stick bugs.
Keep coming.
It's fine.
All right.
Phalanx says, Tim, you keep talking about 3D printed guns, but why not the Luti?
It's also my birthday, so I have some of my money.
Oh, thank you.
What's the Luti? How do you spell it? L-U some of my money. Oh, thank you. What's the Luti?
How do you spell it?
L-U-T-Y.
I don't know.
I am unfamiliar.
Not sure.
It's what the Nero was playing
when Rome was burning.
He was playing the Luti.
I heard that that was
actually not true,
but I'd like to go
into that deeper.
The Luti submachine gun?
Oh, oh my.
Everybody is putting F in chat,
but hold on.
I said that if you want to
smash the like button
to end the Fed.
You guys can't take directions.
Maybe they're just trying to abolish the Fed.
Oh, I see.
Mark H.
says Tom McDonald would be an awesome future
guest. You guys rock. He would.
He would. Tom, you are always welcome to
come on the show. You know what I would love to do
too is do a music collaboration with him.
Because we have one song that's kind of punk rock.
I can't write a verse to it.
I just don't know.
Oh, Tom would be great.
And so I was like, it's faster.
So maybe what it needs is rap so it can convey the story in a meaningful way.
So I reached out to him.
But he's a busy guy.
There's some other people I have in mind.
We'll see what we can get done.
Got a lot of music stuff in the works.
That's awesome, man.
Yo, it's just everybody is so busy.
The talent pool is...
Talented people are busy.
It's all bought up.
It's hard.
Yeah, we're trying to find...
We're talking to some big industry music people,
but they're like,
yo, everybody is swamped.
Where's everybody at?
Speaking of music,
I loved your Chicken City theme song.
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. Is that live now? Did that come out? I played it on Instagram. I saw the making City theme song. Oh yeah.
Is that live now?
I saw the making of and I just thought it was
so endearing.
It's just four chords. I wrote it in ten seconds.
That's great though. It puts you in a good mood.
Oh yeah, Chicken City.
Roberto is the sheriff of Chicken City
and Roberto Jr. is his deputy.
But Roberto's at the Boys Town now.
He's in Friedenstein.
With his sons. He his deputy. But Roberto's at the Boys Town now. He's in Freedomistan. With his sons.
He's aggressive.
Roberto Jr. is much nicer to the girls.
Is he a brawler?
Roberto Jr. is Rhode Island Red and Easter
Eggers of some sort. Some kind of mix.
But he looks just like a Rhode Island Red. I think I saw him outside.
He's beautiful.
Roberto was getting really aggressive.
He jump kicked me one day.
And we can't have him banging his daughters. He's beautiful. Yeah. He's beautiful. So Roberto was getting really aggressive. He jump kicked me one day. Yeah.
He was getting...
And we can't have him banging his daughters.
No.
Yeah.
So he already did.
And he had a bunch of granddaughter daughters.
Illegitimate grandchildren.
That's the limit.
Yes.
You know, for line breeding, I guess.
Yeah.
You're not supposed to...
You can do it once, I guess, for certain traits.
Yeah.
So now he's got a few granddaughter daughters.
And these chickens,
they are their own aunts, I think. Is that what it is?
Sounds right. You're going to want to change that bloodline. We did.
So Roberto Jr.'s his son, but we have
two Brahma roosters
now that are Roberto's sons
with our Brahma, Sarah.
So I think what we're going to do is we're going to
take all the boys out because we have a Silky
who's been yelling
Love him
And then the Silky breeds with everybody and makes satins
One lucky Silky
Silky's a great
Do roosters generally have a different call?
What do you call that? A cock-a-doodle-doo?
Crow
They do based upon
When we would notice
When you live with them and you have them on the farm
And you know as well, you know what they're saying
When there was a fox nearby It was a different sound When it was like run and take cover when you live with them and you have them on the farm and you know as well, you know what they're saying.
When there was a fox nearby, it was a different sound.
When it was like run and take cover, he would make some sound.
Our rudest's name was Cletus.
And all the hens would run into the house.
It was like, heads up, here comes the fox.
They all have different sounds.
It's very cool.
Adrian Curry in chat says, house Lannister hens.
That is correct. That is what they are. That's very good. Oh, man.annister hens. That is correct.
That is what they are.
That's very good.
Oh, man.
That's very good.
All right.
Let's read some more.
DD says, the state is a joke.
They do not care about you.
Well, of course they don't.
Duh.
Yeah.
Most of these politicians are like, I just want to say the bare minimum that I have to to get reelected.
That's about it.
There's like 10 politicians who are actually trying stuff.
All right. that's about it there's like 10 politicians who are actually trying stuff all right Minion715 says
Tim check out
New York response
with Bill S9407
making the purchase
or possession
of all types of body armor
a felony
if it is passed
that's no good
that's nuts man
why
how do you
how do you
how do you legally
define body armor then
so you know what
they were doing in Thailand
is they would buy
x-ray sheets
and they would stagger them
inside vests as plates.
Nice. And I don't know if that actually worked
but they said it did. You take a
whole bunch of the x-ray film
and it creates some kind of
plate. Oh, interesting. I have
to ask, how do you justify
banning a defensive, not
even a weapon, a defensive thing?
What case do you make that says,
oh, you shouldn't be able to actually literally
protect your vital organs from a
possible attack, which we know are happening, by the way.
I don't get it. I don't get it.
Welder1 says, Tim, you need to buy
billboards near establishment media that reads,
if you want real news, go to
TimCast.com. Nice.
We did have some.
I don't know if they went up.
They might be in Chicago.
And it's a quote from Michael Malice that says, what is it?
The quote was something like, the corporate press gives you the narrative, TimCast.com, or TimCast gives you the news.
I think that's on some of the billboards.
So I did see that we have the one in Times Square, but that was more of like a statement like we're here
get used to it and uh we bought a bunch in chicago because that was actually like the biggest regional
demographic for the show is chicago so i was like we'll put them in chicago because apparently
people in chicago like the show and we'll see how that works out we'll see if it works out
but either way we've done zero marketing until this point. And so,
you know,
we'll see what happens.
And it's all thanks to all of you as members.
We're going to keep growing.
I think we need to stop
a lot of people.
All of these channels,
all of these independent creators
need to stop looking
at the establishment
mainstream media
as if they are
some big monolith
and start recognizing
that we've,
you know,
we've beached the shore.
We are storming. We've breached the walls. Yeah, we've beached the shore. We are storming.
We've breached the walls.
Yeah, we've breached the walls.
We are running across the beaches of Normandy figuratively,
and they are firing all of these smears and hit pieces desperate to stop us.
But all we've got to do is, as we get big enough,
is just start taking over those spaces.
So, you know, I don't know, Super Bowl ads or something.
Yeah, and you'll realize when you start doing it too
that the amount of cover you run
as an independent journalist or an independent
creator is so much more than a guy
on a beach head storming against machine guns.
One guy doesn't provide a lot of cover for everyone
else, but when you're a loud voice in the media,
man, is that a distraction for the people
that aren't comfortable with it.
What's funny is the hubris of the mainstream folks
in their position, like
Anderson Cooper.
There are more people watching Bobby Flay make a frittata than are watching him.
But if Hugh would tell you he's the most important voice in the world, people have 40,000, 50,000 people watching him a night.
So it's kind of funny to see that they still think they're these powerful voices and they're really – we shouldn't give them any props because they're kind of obsolete.
All right.
Junkie Box says, cops are now watered down.
The poke mandate made many good ones leave.
The defund programs and protests made the good ones leave.
Effective cops also typically have passed military training, and there are few remaining.
This is the point I was trying to make on Twitter, which was probably not well framed.
But when you create a culture around the defund movement, and you demonize
cops and you riot, the good cops
leave. And then you get...
There's two kinds of cops.
There's the cop who's like, I am doing
this job not because of the rewards
I'm doing, because I must. I must be
the person to run in to save those lives.
And then you get other cops who are like, I don't know, man.
I just need a job. And what we have
now are the, I don't know, man. I just need a job. I'm we have now are the, I don't know, man. I just need a job.
I'm not going to run in there and get shot at.
You're nuts.
I'm just here for the paycheck because the good cops don't want to be there anymore.
That's sad, man.
All right.
Drake Tilson says, I'm an FFL.
Many FFLs offer payment plans through their credit card processing companies so they can close sales with people who otherwise don't have the cash or credit to pay for the firearm.
Interesting.
I mean, financing is financing, you know.
Flinch Sun says, in reference to your earlier segment, the reason that feds are referred
to as glowies is from Terry A. Davis and his less than charitable term he uses for the
CIA and how they glow in the dark.
Yeah, that sounds right.
Yeah.
Checks out.
All right.
Archmagos,
Aaron Carbo says,
I would charge in to save any child I could
from such a fate.
I don't think I could stop myself from berserking
on in there to stop him or die trying.
That's what I'm saying.
I don't know if I would have any logical thought at all.
I might just be like,
kick the door in.
But the CBP guy, exactly that.
He grabbed the gun and he went for it.
Some people are just like, run in, save these kids.
I don't even have kids.
And I was imagining how I would feel in that situation.
And it was making my blood pressure rise.
I can understand if someone was like, you were unarmed.
And there was someone with a weapon.
And you'd be like, what do I do?
But these were cops with guns.
That's why I'm saying, like, I'd probably just do it poorly, but freak out.
I'd probably freak out.
I don't know what to say, man.
I mean, maybe it's all well and good.
Like, we like to believe we would be better at it than they would.
But I've got to tell you, man, I've run into danger for stupider reasons.
It leaves me speechless, really.
Speechless.
Available on Amazon.
Michael Knowles.
Thank you.
Oh, my gosh.
Ridiculous.
It never dies.
Genius marketing.
Yep, yep, yep.
He's got us.
Okay, let's try and grab some more super chats.
David C. Kronk Sr. says,
I find it very disconcerting that we as a society put our money into a more secure place than we put our children.
We deserve what we get.
Well, you know, you get what you deserve.
That's used in a bad way in a lot of senses.
You get what you deserve, but it's not always a bad thing.
It's like, you know the story
of the king
who said he wanted,
who was it,
his blacksmith
to make him something
that would make him happy
when he was sad
and sad when he was happy?
I'm probably ruining the story
or whatever.
You ever hear this one?
He's like,
I challenge you
to produce an item
that would make me sad
when I'm happy
and happy when I'm sad.
And so he made a ring
or something that engraved it
and it said,
this too shall pass.
That's a great line.
Yeah, so like, you know, when you say you get what shall pass. That's a great line. Yeah, so like...
It's from Ecclesiastes.
You know, when you say you get what you deserve,
it's a good thing.
You work really hard, you'll get what you deserve.
Yeah.
You do bad things, you will get what you deserve.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says,
Tim, make a short film about him.
Praise strength.
We could.
We could do something.
Some people said do an animation or something
about the...
Here we go.
James Greenshade says, they did make a movie about that guy.
It's called Die Hard.
Woo!
That's right.
You see, those were the heroes we had, like I had when I was a kid.
Yeah.
The dude who taped the gun to his back and he's got his hands up and they're like, yippee-ki-yay.
Crawled through the vents.
Yeah.
Yep.
Broken glass and he has no shoes on.
So at what point, though, are they the good guys and then they become the fed?
Like what's the crossover?
There's definitely a crossover.
Yeah.
And by the way, can we just shut the lights off so you can confirm I'm not glowing?
You're glowing in the dark.
Well, we haven't done that yet.
And then we know I'm on the good side of this deal.
It's a good deal.
Yeah.
I don't know.
You did the right thing.
No, I don't – I mean I think it's all just about generalities, generalizations.
Like there are bad Feds, like the ones who go to the garage, pull rope, but the ones who don't
go and deal with political corruption.
I think for the most part, everybody...
I've talked to some active feds who are total MAGA.
And what I've told is that it's not as cut and dry as people think.
A lot of people think that the entirety of the FBI is all Trump derangement syndrome.
And it's like, no, it's the same as the world it's the same as the country a bunch of them are especially because
they're living in dc so you see a lot of them but then there's a bunch of you know there's maga ones
and then there's like middle of the road guys and the problem is as you see in the real world
conservatives and centrists rarely speak up and so the Trump derangement ones are doing what they want.
The other guys are like,
I don't know, man.
I shouldn't say anything.
I could lose my job.
I got kids.
And that's the reality.
That's the problem.
Bad people do bad things.
And if all that is required
for evil to triumph
is that good men do nothing.
That's correct.
Good persons do nothing.
Stand in the hallway.
That's right.
Also, good people can do bad things
if they're in bad systems.
Yes. True. Very, very true. History bad things if they're in bad systems. Yes.
True.
Very, very true.
History shows that true.
That's sad, man.
Or vice versa.
Bad people can do good things
in good systems.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says,
quote,
Ian, you are right.
Sounds like a Freudian slip.
So weird.
But you said it.
Very intentional.
Thanks, Raymond.
It was true.
Julio Valalta III says,
just saw a Timcast IRL billboard off Interstate by Midway Airport.
Also seen in that area.
Regular gas at $5.53 a gallon.
Oh, snap.
Yikes.
So when I was buying the billboards in Chicago,
I was like, at least one of them has to be off Interstate 55 at Central Avenue
because that's where I grew up.
The rest can be in strategic places.
But that one, that one's for my friends.
Did you get it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Apparently it's up.
I didn't know it was going to go up right away.
Awesome.
Yeah, so years ago,
we've done a bunch of different polls
and we also have analytic data
and Chicago is always the biggest.
Not by much,
but I think it makes sense
considering I'm from Chicago,
so people there probably have similar opinions.
We grew up in the same place.
So I was like, all right, well,
if we're going to buy ads
and actually buy ads, we'll do it in Chicago.
It's a big city, and the people there have similar views.
It's a big liberal city for sure.
But if you don't like Democrats and you're not a conservative in Chicago,
you're basically like me.
If you guys see billboards, get a nice high-res shot of it and tweet it at me.
Tag me in it, and I'll see if we can circulate it on the show.
Yeah, so good. Give me the address of where it is the location josh oh my gosh says
tim if the government subsidizes guns using tax money it may turn out like the university's
raising prices to get more money no thanks that is a good point so i was only half joking i was
making a point about how republicans never actually fight for things the way democrats do
democrats are like we demand you pay for our health care, and then health care goes crazy.
And then I'm like, okay, then we demand you pay for our guns.
Here's a compromise.
I will say yes to universal health care if you say yes to universal guns.
And it works out, too, because then with all the guns everywhere, you're worried.
Don't worry.
Hospital's covered for you.
Yeah.
Don't, you know, you don't, these people don't realize that you don't just get free stuff because you want it. It means we get free stuff, too. That's fair. Yeah. Yeah. Don't, you know, these people don't realize that you don't just get free stuff
because you want it.
It means we get free stuff too.
That's fair.
Yeah.
I also think it's funny
that the student debt forgiveness people
are like 13% of the population
and they want all of the poor people
to subsidize their degrees.
Do you see a study done by the Fed,
the other Fed?
Oh, the Fed.
Yes, the other ones, the bankers.
The one we want to end.
Yeah.
Yeah, that one.
They surveyed student loan folks, and 70% of them could, as of this moment, continue their payments.
In other words, 70% of folks who have student loans absolutely need no assistance.
Interesting that this whole conversation around loan forgiveness, not necessarily everybody needs it.
Yeah, but they're all getting $10,000. Really? That's the proposal. that this whole conversation around loan forgiveness, not necessarily everybody needs it.
But they're all getting $10,000.
Really?
It's bribing voters.
It's crazy.
$10,000. Bonkers.
That's nuts, man.
Second, Fleet Actual says,
Tim, if they aren't old enough to be armed,
they aren't old enough to vote, force them to choose
one or the other.
I think they would give them the choose one or the other. There you go.
I think they would give them the guns.
Raise the age of everything.
They'd be like, okay, let's get 16-year-olds to vote.
There was a bunch of students protested gun violence, and they were like, just because we're students doesn't mean we aren't allowed.
They were like, just because we're students doesn't mean we're not allowed to protest.
And I'm like, no, your lack of experience and knowledge on these issues is why you shouldn't protest.
But I don't really mean you shouldn't protest.
I'm just saying I don't think you, as a gun control person, regardless of age, has done any research on this.
No.
That's it.
I don't care how old you are.
You can be 14.
And if you're like, I have not Googled this, but I'm going to protest, I'll be like, maybe you should. Yeah, unless I'm a 16-year-old set policy, it was that Swedish chick
and they basically
led Europe into war.
So let's not have
16-year-olds
make any more
policy decisions.
I would like to translate
for Greta Thunberg
when she was like,
we don't want to wait
till 2030 or 2022.
She was actually saying,
I want to kill
60 million people today.
Sounds familiar.
And you think I'm joking
but if you,
she said she wanted
to shut down all fossil fuels today. I'm like, yeah, overnight 60 million people around. Sounds familiar. And you think I'm joking, but if she said she wanted to shut down all fossil fuels today,
I'm like, yeah, overnight,
60 million people around the world die.
They've also figured out
how to upscale coal into graphene.
I don't know if you've been
following that at all,
but they hit it with lasers
and they can turn it
into much cleaner burn fuel.
Oh, you see, now Greta Thunberg
is trying to take away
Ian's graphene.
She's crossed their teeth.
I'm on your side.
And your buddy in Chicago
should know that a 550 is bad.
Wait till August.
It's going to get much, much worse.
Wait till the...
Wait till the harvest.
Wait till the harvest. No fertilizer.
I know. This fall harvest
is going to be a shock to the system.
We're still eating last year's crops.
Most of the wheat...
Some winter wheat was harvested recently,
but very little. We're still eating last year's wheat. we're actually growing wheat as well you have to yeah they're
weeds volunteer we ignored them for a long enough time and then we realized it was wheat and i was
like leave it i guess i was like i guess we'll make bread yeah we got a whole bunch growing and
i was like what is this strange plant growing oh now how are you gonna harvest it by the way do
you have the side what do you got to cut it up?
You've got to get a scythe.
Oh, my meteorite katana.
Yeah, yeah.
There you go.
That's my sword up on the wall.
Oh, good lord.
No, I won't use that.
I'll use one of my other katanas.
Dude, let's get a grindstone.
To sharpen them?
No, no, to grind the wheat once we get it out.
Oh, yeah.
And a sharpener.
No, no, no, no.
We're going to get a donkey.
Yeah.
The donkey walks in a circle.
And a millstone?
Yeah.
Absolutely.
That would be great.
Old school. Oh, it's a millstone yeah that would be great old school
oh it's a millstone the grindstone is for the blade i feel like that could be another youtube
channel for you just the donkey going around oh yeah super like cathartic drop a carrot every
500 bucks and super i would watch that like no time to fall asleep yeah watch the donkey
a 360 camera right now we're talking we have the chicken parties at chickencitylive.com.
So you can give five bucks and then treats come down.
And then once $100 hits, a chicken party happens.
And so when we were launching Pop Culture Crisis Live, I said, we need to do the same thing.
We need to have it so that when people super chat, something happens.
And then when you reach a number, something happens.
So now, during Pop Culture Crisis, the hosts will be talking,
and if you super chat,
a money gun shoots 20s into the air.
So good.
And then once $100 is reached,
a crisis party happens
where police lights go off
and then money starts flying at people,
and then one flew into Ian's coffee.
Yeah, it's a bit distracting.
It is a little distracting.
Hit me in the face, one fell in the coffee.
But it's cool.
It's cool.
All right, let's see.
Odysseus Horse says,
Tim, if you're serious about the absolute nature of 2A,
you should get Brandon Herrera, the AK guy,
ought to tell you about the ATF form
to register your nuclear device.
I'd love to hear it.
I have tried so many times to get that man.
He is busy as all get out.
Someday, hopefully.
Brandon Herrera is his name?
Yeah, Brandon Herrera.
Matthew Fettig says, Hey, Tim, love all get out. Someday. Brandon Herrera is his name? Yeah, Brandon Herrera. Matthew Fettig says,
Hey Tim, love all your work. Anyway, the IRL
can do a poll of the day and then talk about
it a little on the show to help
the show feel even more engaging. That's a good idea.
We could do something in the
community section on the page, like
maybe in the morning.
Or maybe just before,
maybe a couple hours before the show and the news is kind of like,
you know,
hear like some big stories
and we'll see what people
are interested in.
We'll ask a question
and then we can pull it up on the show.
That would be fun actually.
It's a good idea.
Matthew, you get no royalties.
It's ours.
You gave us the idea.
We own it now.
Nice job, dude.
You forfeit all rights.
No, we'll see.
We'll see.
What about my donkey idea?
Can I get in on that?
You guys do that. I'll cut cut i'll give you back the hundred dollars
it proves you're not a fat is that what i got it yeah so like to earn redemption you gave me
100 bucks i'll give it back yeah there you go good donkey idea matt reese says the left are
saying mental health isn't an issue while you see a clear trend to normalize mental illness
as if madness should be the new
baseline yeah well unfortunately this is the hill i'm on right now is the pharmaceutical industry is
the root problem of this because just too much of a coincidence not to be fritter says disabled guy
here i walk with a cane love it when my friends yell hurry up dude i only have two speeds if you
don't like this one you sure as hell won't like the other. I love that guy.
That's great.
Food for Life Global says, our charity is FFL.org, and our mission is to unite the world
through the sharing of pure food.
We serve over one million vegan meals a day.
Oh, that's cool.
Very cool.
FFL, too.
I thought it was going to be a gun thing.
Yeah.
But it's Food for Life.
Wait, that's three Fs.
That's F-F-F-L.
Wait, wait, wait.
That's F-F-G.
Food for Life. Food for F-ing Life. Oh, I'm, wait, wait. That's F-F-G. Food for life.
Food for effing life.
Oh, I'm an idiot.
Oh, Tim can't count.
I can't count.
Where's that A?
Food for life.
WWJD.
F-F-L-G.
That's what it was.
I pulled another Biden, man.
What's going on here?
You got to take a meditation break.
You're going to love the fresh air.
If I pull more Bidens like this, I don't know if I keep doing the show.
Go forest bathing.
But I do like the fact that whenever I screw up, I can say I pulled a Biden.
Yeah, I like that.
Because it makes it funny.
And then you have to whisper something really creepy.
And angry.
I'm your commander in chief.
That was so creepy today.
It gave me like goosebumps.
Like, oh, he did that?
We'll grab two more here.
Let's see.
Phalanx says the Ludi is a 9mm SMG that is built entirely from things you find at the hardware store.
British anti-gun control guy Phil Ludi wrote a book showing how to do it.
Wow.
You can't ban the knowledge.
That's crazy.
Nice.
You cannot, no.
Nashonabo says, shout out to Riley Highland.
The chicken cams will be forever known as Timcest?
Whoa.
Is that because Roberto and his daughters?
Probably.
That makes sense.
Well, hey, man.
Don't put your name with that.
You didn't do anything wrong.
Yeah, I didn't do it.
He did.
And you know what was funny is we put Dorothy in sex jail because he was going at her too
much and hurt her back.
Yeah.
She was the victim.
She was the favorite. She was the victim. She was the favorite.
She was the punished.
She was the favorite.
And so we had to separate her, and people got mad.
They were like, shouldn't you put Roberto in there?
And I was like, well, but he's the rooster.
And he keeps the girls in check and guards them.
And if we separate them, he might come back out and fight with his son.
So we can't.
But then eventually we decided it's time to send Roberto off to the mine over at Freedomistan
with the boys.
So we put him in sex shield.
I'm sure she appreciated a little break also.
She's not healing.
It's been a couple months and she's not
growing the feathers back.
She needs some Reiki.
Yeah, and for some
reason, she is the favorite even for
Roberto Jr. now.
It's crazy.
Chicken hormones.
I don't know anything about chicken attractiveness, but she must be a supermodel in the chicken world.
She's a pretty lady.
The Bard Rock?
Yeah.
Yeah, she's hot.
You know, it's really funny.
We have two Bard Rock.
They look like zebras.
They have white and black.
And Vanessa has always got a furrowed brow.
That's how you tell them apart.
You see Vanessa, and she's always looking angry at you like this with her eyes down.
And Dorothy's eyes are always up
So you instantly just know who's who
They're very friendly
They're both real friendly to humans too
That might have something to do with them being the favorites of the roosters
Adrian Curry says eat Roberto
He will always be a part of you
That's terrible
Justice has been served
I don't think we'll eat any of the original cast, which includes Roberto.
But all the rest of them, they don't have names are fair game.
And we can't name the 50 of them that we have.
So we named one of the Brahma's the son of Sarah Isaac.
Because in the Bible, Sarah's son is Isaac.
So he's safe.
And Sarah is safe.
And then she has another son and daughter.
I guess they'll be safe.
I like the Bible trend.
That's cool.
Well, I don't know.
It was just an idea someone came up with, I guess.
So, you know, we'll see how Chicken City goes.
But also, guys, check out Pop Culture Crisis on YouTube live Monday through Friday at 3 p.m.
We're going to be doing some ads for them as well as the show starts kicking up and getting to full speed.
And it's going really good.
I mean, Lydia and Ian have been on the show.
So fun.
This week, actually.
Yeah, it was great.
Yeah.
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Brian, you want to shout anything out?
I'm just so pleased to be here.
Can't wait to come back, if you have me, even though if I glow.
But please, the President's Daily Brief.
Love it if you all listen to that.
And I'm on Twitter, Brian Dean Wright.
Always good to be here.
Daniel Turner.
Daniel Turner, Power of the Future.
Powerofthefuture.com.
And also, always a shout-out to Bristol Farm Virginia on Instagram, our fantastic sheep farm.
So cute.
I sent you a picture of the sheep, but I don't know if you can pull it up in time.
I can't pull it up in time, but I am going to put that link in our bio so your socials
will have that in.
My sheep are just...
They're adorable.
They're the most beautiful sheep in the world.
Swiss of LA.
They're just beautiful.
So anyway.
Did you shave them yet?
The Scottish blackface will get sheared next week.
Are you going to record it?
They're getting really hot.
You guys want to come record it?
You can.
It's kind of funny.
That'd be fun.
I like the idea.
They'll be so happy because they're hot right now. Oh, sure. They're so hot. They have getting really hot. You guys want to come record it? You can. It's kind of funny. I like the idea. They'll be so happy because they're
hot right now. They're so hot. They have so much
wool. But yeah, Bristol Farm, Virginia
on Instagram and great to be here. Thanks for having me.
Have a great weekend. I used to think it was unethical to
shave sheep just because of the way they scream
and struggle. But I saw a sheep with so
much wool it couldn't move. So you kind of
got them. You see how they
vaccinate the baby sheep?
They have them sitting in that conveyor belt thing with their feet up.
And it just pulls them forward and they don't move.
And it just gives them the shot and then it drops them and they walk away.
I love them.
That's great.
I love it.
Daniel, always great.
Really great to see you, man.
Brian, really good to see you, dude.
And we did joke about the whole CIA that you work for the Fed and everything.
But thank you so much for doing that and the work you've done.
You bet.
And for coming and talking about it.
Anytime.
Can't wait to see you again, man.
This is great stuff.
I followed you on Twitter.
Lydia, I love you.
Tim, always a pleasure, my man.
All right.
I wanted to leave you guys with this quick thought.
I was just talking to Chris Carr, who's one of our editors over at TimCast.com.
And I said, Chris, I would really like to know how many of the cops who just stood in the hallway with all those kids were dying had their own kids.
I was like, I'm willing to bet that not a lot of them have their own children.
And I was like, this is how a culture dies.
We're not willing to defend the people who need our defense the most because our family line ends with us.
And if we're to die, that's it.
So anyway, that's not exactly a bright note to leave you with.
But I also want to say you guys can follow me on Twitter and Minds.com at Sour Patchlets as well as SourPatchlets.me.
Thanks for hanging out, everybody. Check out Pop Culture Crisis on Twitter and Minds.com at Sour Patchlets as well as SourPatchlets.me. Thanks for hanging out, everybody.
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It's going to be a lot of fun.
Thanks for hanging out, and we'll see you all then.
Bye, guys.