Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #548 - FBI Arrests GOP Frontrunner In January 6th Probe, Trump PRAISES Protest w/Tommy Altman

Episode Date: June 10, 2022

TIm, Seamus of FreedomToons, Luke, and Lydia join congressional candidate Tommy Altman to discuss the leading GOP gubernatorial candidate in Michigan who was arrested for participating in January 6th,... Biden joking about arresting his political opposition on Jimmy Kimmel, the pro-abortino protestors who resumed protesting at SCOTUS justices houses just hours after a man was arrested for attempting to kill the same judges, and the violence breaking out in big cities as people tire of leftist attorneys general. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Today, the FBI raided the home of the GOP frontrunner for the gubernatorial primaries in Michigan. He was then arrested in connection with January 6th. So there's two potential scenarios. The Democrat DOJ, the Biden DOJ, has been become weaponized and is going after their political rivals, or you have an extremely popular insurrectionist candidate. So pick one, I guess. There's another report that's been going around about whistleblowers claiming the FBI has been purging their ranks of conservatives. So honestly, the truth may be closer to the middle. This guy, Ryan Kelly, is the front runner in the GOP primary to go up against Whitmer. He was at the Capitol. Allegedly, he's fanning people,
Starting point is 00:00:46 telling them to come in and saying things like it's war. I don't know for sure if the evidence presented by the federal government in their claims is true. Then this guy was there. He never went in the building.
Starting point is 00:00:57 He's being charged with, I believe, four misdemeanors. And from those four misdemeanors, they raided his house. They've arrested him. And coincidentally, it's happening right as they're doing those hearings on January 6th. So, you know, I can only think that it's just breaking down. Joe Biden went on Jimmy Kimmel and he jokingly said, you got to arrest all the Republicans.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Because Jimmy Kimmel was like, how do you do this? How do you play fair if Republicans aren't playing fair? Anybody who's been paying attention to the news and knows the facts knows the Republicans aren't playing at all. They're just sitting on their hands. The Democrats aren't playing fair, but they've convinced their voter base that it's actually the Republicans who are doing things. They're not actually doing anything. I think it's all falling apart. Last night, as many of you know, we did one of the longest shows we've had in a long time.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Four and a half hours. Not on purpose. Now, three and a half hours was just dead air. And Luke made some great points in that time. The smartest he's ever sounded. When we were outside for those three and a half hours waiting for the police, Luke gave this tremendous speech. And it was the greatest speech ever given. You just had to have been there.
Starting point is 00:02:02 It was riveting. In the moment. And the energy was just there. Even had me. So this happens. And we're in Maryland. We're relatively close to where Kavanaugh lives. And so this was a factor in what happened. We had a credible threat.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Considering that day we got news that someone had attempted to kidnap and murder a Supreme Court justice, we had to take it seriously. And there's a whole bunch of other stuff that's going on. Now those terrorists went back to Kavanaugh's house. And the reason why I call them that is when you have people violate the law to intimidate a judge, then someone attempts to kidnap and murder that judge, then they come back to illegally protest in front of the house. That's a threat
Starting point is 00:02:45 yep they are trying to use fear and intimidation so we're going to talk about all of this stuff and i guess gas price is over five bucks so that's that's particularly brutal but we'll talk about all that and returning for a do-over it's tommy altman yeah well thanks for having me back uh hopefully it's not nearly as a influence last night no it's good it was going really well it was like a great show and then we had to flee the building. We had a lot of fun. We had great conversations out there, too bad they weren't all recorded. But no, looking forward to it.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Yeah, so for those that aren't familiar, who are you? What do you do? Yeah, so my name's Tommy Altman. I'm running for Congress in the 2nd District of Virginia. That's where I was born and raised. I'm an Air Force Special Ops combat veteran. I had combat tours on the ground in Afghanistan and Iraq. Disabled veteran, ordained minister, small business owner. I own a tattoo studio over there in the district for the last
Starting point is 00:03:28 five years. And honestly, man, just running because I'm sick and tired of seeing the direction we're moving as a nation. I got sons, and I want to make sure that our next generation has the same freedoms and opportunities everybody else had. Right on. We got Luke. Hey, guys. I got one simple message for you here today. It's not the news. It's an establishment press release, and if you agree with that statement and want it on a T-shirt, you could on thebestpoliticalshirts.com. We have a lot of important things to discuss, especially the FBI in Michigan. Absolutely awful track record, especially when it comes to their destruction of plots. Lots to talk about there.
Starting point is 00:04:01 There's a potential connection between the Whitmer and this guy. Absolutely. And I think there's some homeless guy that snuck in here that's not supposed to be in here. I don't know if this guy's – You don't look homeless. Yeah, well, thank you. I'm glad. I'm glad that we have somebody here who's willing to take my side against this unbelievably unfair bullying.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Wow, bullying. Ridiculous, yeah. It's called speaking truth to power. Truth to power. I'm glad you're acknowledging I'm more powerful than you I don't know about that Luke with a constant victimization I am Seamus Coghlan
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Starting point is 00:05:49 Or just share TimCast.com where people can now come and watch the show. Smash that like button again. Not too many times. Just make sure you did. And let's jump into that first story. From TimCast.com. Leading Michigan GOP gubernatorial candidate Ryan Kelly raided, arrested in connection with January 6th protest.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Timcast dot com reports the candidate was raided on June 9th on misdemeanor charges related to the protest. He is facing four misdemeanor charges. Knowingly entering or remaining in a restricted building. Disorderly and disruptive conduct. Knowingly engaging in any act of physical violence against a person or property
Starting point is 00:06:23 in a restricted building or grounds and willfully injuring or committing depredation against property of the U.S. The charging documents do not accuse Kelly of ever entering the building. He is accused of gesturing for people to move forward while on the Capitol steps. They also say that I guess he assisted in someone pulling down. He's also accused of using his hands to support another rioter who was pulling a metal barricade. So they have photos that they argue is this guy. Now, here's what gets important.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Ryan Kelly is currently polling at 19%. He is up four points. He is the GOP frontrunner for the primary to go up against Gretchen Whitmer. So we have one of two scenarios. We either have the DOJ being weaponized to shut down popular pro-Trump candidates, or we have a popular candidate who is an insurrectionist. Now think about either scenario. If you're a Democrat, you're looking at the sky,
Starting point is 00:07:18 and you're like, this guy was at January 6th, and he's winning. What does that say about the American people in that perspective? Now I certainly don't believe that narrative. I think what we're seeing is the weaponization of the DOJ against political rivals. This guy should have been there. He shouldn't have been gesturing people if that's what he was doing. The rioters should be charged.
Starting point is 00:07:36 But to see an FBI raid on a prominent politician over misdemeanors, it's clearly, to me, weaponization. Right before, this is another question, just really quickly, right before an election, you know, when they had the footage, they knew this was going on. I mean, how long did it take them to process everything? And now they're doing it? Sorry, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:07:53 It's been a year and a half. Yeah. I was going to say, if he is an insurrectionist, he's not a very good one. That's all he did. Yeah. Well, and this is the point, right? They have this entire insurrectionist narrative.
Starting point is 00:08:03 And the idea is that the sitting president of the United States, who is the commander in chief and has control over the entirety of the armed forces, decided to overthrow the government and have a coup. And he did this by having a bunch of civilians without any guns enter a building they weren't supposed to be in. And many of them didn't even go in the building. And many of them didn't go in the building. And many of them were waved in by police officers and didn't do anything violent. And it's not even many of them. It's a fraction of a percent that did. I'm just imagining, you know, these hearings. The hearings are happening now. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:08:35 And they're going to be like, this was a plot by a sitting president to overthrow this country. A sitting president. And I'm going to explain to you how he did it. Yeah. He vaguely mentioned something about walking towards the Capitol. And then what happened? He took a selfie. A bunch of people.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Some people rioted. Maybe a few hundred. And then about half of them went in the building. And then a bunch of people were led in by the police. And they walked around taking selfies with those cops and then left peacefully. Yeah, exactly. This is the sitting president, commander- chief, in control of the military, literally has access to the button that launches nukes.
Starting point is 00:09:11 And his plot to overthrow the United States government and become some kind of dictator was to have civilians, virtually none of whom brought any guns, go towards the Capitol, vaguely gesture that they had in that area. This was a coup. It was the worst coup ever in the history of the world. These hearings that we're going to be hearing about on national television, the January 6th
Starting point is 00:09:31 committee hearings, they're putting out all the stops. They want to make sure that this is going to be a spectacle. They brought in the former president of ABC News, the man that squashed the Jeffrey Epstein story, that suppressed it, that spiked it, that made sure that this was the famous story, the Amy Robichoff Project Veritas story, where she specifically said, we had Bill Clinton, we had all the evidence,
Starting point is 00:09:54 we had this years ago, and it was squashed by ABC News. That man that was in charge of that is going to be now presenting the showcase spectacle that is going to be presented to the American public in just a few hours from now. So you can only expect how corrupted and how bad and how just emotionally manipulative it's going to be attempted to sway the American public towards seeing something that, again, has been highly manipulated from day one. I want to make another point here. This is something that actually came from polling data, and I've quoted this on the show before, but more people who were polled from the general public want to see an investigation into the 2020 riots than want to see an investigation into January 6th.
Starting point is 00:10:35 So where's that? Isn't it a threat to our democracy that we're investigating an event which a minority wants to see investigated rather than something the majority wants to see investigated? I'm pretty sure more people want Hillary Clinton investigated. I think even a large portion of Democrats did. Or just release the list of the clients for Maxwell. That's right. That would be enough.
Starting point is 00:10:53 And then Elon Musk just a few days ago even asked, how come the DOJ hasn't leaked that information? And that's a very important question that I think we should be asking because we are seeing the DOJ weaponized in a very strong way. We just had another Trump administration member arrested just a few days ago at the airport. Peter Navarro. He's been on this show. He's been on this show before and he was in contact with the federal
Starting point is 00:11:17 authorities and he said, you need anything? You need me to come in? You need me to provide evidence? Let's talk. We'll work it out. They set him up at the airport and he says he was treated like an al-Qaeda terrorist, which is not surprising in these days, especially with just how overbearing and just how insane institutions like the FBI have been that just a few weeks ago, we found out, set up this whole Gretchen Whitmore kidnapping plot, which, again, was totally unfolded as a jury ruled that the people there were entrapped
Starting point is 00:11:45 by the FBI. The jury. No, no. The Gretchen Whitmore. Whitmer. Whitmer. Whitmore. Witchmore.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Witchmore, I think, is a little bit more potentially appropriate. That actually is better. Put his lip. I think Witchmore. Luke makes a very good point here. So the FBI raids his house over misdemeanors. We saw an instance when we were talking, I believe, with Nick Cersei about his film Capital Punishment
Starting point is 00:12:07 of these two old ladies who had the FBI knock at their door because they walked through the Capitol after they were welcomed in by police and then we go to the Epstein story. The FBI raided his island and there has not been a single indictment
Starting point is 00:12:24 related to it. You're telling me they didn't find enough evidence to indict a single person? The FBI had witnesses coming forward for over 30 years and they decided to ignore those witnesses in that very specific case. The FBI aided and abetted this larger international trafficking and extortion operation
Starting point is 00:12:40 which again shows you just how badly corrupted institutions could be inside of Washington, D.C., leading to the suffering of thousands of children in unspeakable ways. What we should want, I believe, as a society is to know why our government is so bad at actually investigating anybody that's going to mess with little kids. Why are we so bad at that that i mean historically over and over again this is what our justice system is actually really bad at and i think the vast majority of americans want to protect children absolutely if there's any
Starting point is 00:13:14 purpose of a justice system right right yeah bad at or yeah i think they're good at not investigating right i think they have a goal like the epstein thing went on for how long yeah over 30 plus years right that we know of and then the first trial came forward and who says the first guy to do something like this and get away with it under the government's notes exactly so i i look at this story and uh this was like a holy moment when uh when this guy got arrested because anyway you cut it right the it's i think luke put it well they're doing this only a few months before the midterm this guy is the front runner they're shutting down a front runner aside from that this is a guy who's done multiple rallies where he said you stop the steal and all those rallies and things like that people agree with
Starting point is 00:14:02 him and they vote for him right you know i think what you see with like YouTube, they ban anybody who agrees with Trump or pushes that narrative because they're doing everything they can to suppress this, exactly this. Yeah. It's all part of the same machine. Yeah. The interesting thing, if you actually go back and look at the descriptions that they used, all the things that he did that were wrong, They actually described everything that happened with the BLM riots.
Starting point is 00:14:27 And, you know, so we don't use the same level of justice. We're not measuring the same things for both of these instances. And like you said, most people really do want to know what happened with these riots. And I think this is absolutely crazy. I think that this is what you're going to see from the Democrat Party. In the midterms, they're going to run on three things. They're going to run on abortion. They're going to run on Second Amendment, take away our Second Amendment.
Starting point is 00:14:50 And they're going to run on January 6th. Because what else are they going to run on? Well, yeah. They don't have a good economy. But even with those issues, the particular stance that they've taken on those are all losing issues. So gun control has been a losing issue for the left for years and years and years. This is not something they've been successful with. And then even with their particular position on abortion, I've said a million times on this show, I'm pro-life.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Most pro-choice people are not as extreme as the Democratic Party is with their position. So when they say, and everyone was arguing this, oh, if the Supreme Court overturns Roe, they're going to be handing the election to the Democrats. Absolutely not, because what the Dems are going to do, which is what they have done, is come out with the most extremist abortionist legislation that most pro-choice people are going to say they wouldn't be willing to accept. Right, we talked about it yesterday in California. They're talking about post-term abortion. It's a huge problem.
Starting point is 00:15:37 But going back to January 6th, I believe that this is what the radical left is using to squash political dissent. And that's the real problem. If we're using this – I mean we have political prisoners right now in the United States. Yeah, yeah. That's both sides of the aisle. This would be grave concern to all of us because then what's the next step? What are we going to do as a society if we now have political prisoners?
Starting point is 00:16:00 Let me go back in time. 2016, Donald Trump was saying lock her up because you'd be in jail, he said to Hillary Clinton. So people started chanting, lock her up. A lot of people on the left were like, this is dangerous rhetoric. I agree, it is. Of course, I think Hillary Clinton has done a lot of nefarious stuff and she should be investigated. Take a look at this story from TimCast.com. Biden breaks his 118-day streak of no interviews with appearance on Jimmy Kimmel Live. Jokes about sending Republicans to jail.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Wow. Same thing. Wow. It's all projection. Yeah. But we're at this point now where Joe Biden goes on this primetime show. I think they only get like a million to two million viewers anyway. So it's not like it.
Starting point is 00:16:35 And they're mostly old people. So you're competitive. I mean, I think we get more in the key demo than they do. But he goes on the show and it's funny to him to say, you got to send the Republicans to jail. But everyone laughs and they cheer for it. We're beyond the show and it's funny to him to say you gotta you gotta send the republicans to jail but everyone laughs and they cheer for it we're we're beyond the point where there's negotiation right now i'm looking at some of these other prominent leftists on youtube and they're all like january 6th hearing blah and they don't know or care about what really happened no i'll give you a good example because i love bringing it up when i said on this show when it
Starting point is 00:17:02 comes to trespassing charges a person has to have been warned for it to be criminal. The people on January 6th who were let in the building by police could not have known because it's a public building. And the cops opened the door and let them in. Now, the rioters, the people who fought with cops on the other side of the building, yeah, they're going to get arrested. They're going to be charged. They were fighting. It was violent. But we're going to see a lot of people who fight it, and they're going to say, I wasn't trespassing. The door was open. We've already seen it happen. The Young Turks run a
Starting point is 00:17:29 story saying, I'm an idiot. I'm making it up. They conflate what really happened that day between the different sides of the building with all just rioting. And it turns out I was right the whole time. But those are the kind of people who are going to watch Jimmy Kimmel and are going to cheer for this. And there's no negotiating with them. Because I can say to them, they can watch my video where I say specifically, the rioters should be charged
Starting point is 00:17:50 and the people on the other side of the building who are led in by cops, you can't charge or it's going to be difficult. And they should be able to see like, they should be able to respond very simply with like,
Starting point is 00:17:58 okay, those are fact statements. Instead, they just say, we don't care. We want to go to war with you. We want to hate you. So I don't see how there's reconciliation. I don't see how there's a resolution. If we can, it just say, we don't care. We want to go to war with you. We want to hate you. So I don't see how there's reconciliation. I don't see how there's a resolution. It's almost like looking into a portal into a parallel universe, watching this interview with Joe Biden and Jimmy Kimmel.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Jimmy Kimmel is like, the Republicans don't play by the rules. He's like, well, if we play like them, then our democracy is in jeopardy. And I'm like, what are the Republicans doing? Literally, what have they done? Have they passed bills? No, they're in the minority. So what are they doing that is breaking the rules? They're not doing anything.
Starting point is 00:18:34 But Joe Biden go on TV and they all believe it. Yeah, I think watching that, it's like Scott Adams talks about one screen, two movies playing at the same time. We're all seeing something different. I think if you know the truth, you're, Scott Adams talks about one screen, two movies playing at the same time. We're all saying something different. Right. I think if you know the truth, you're not on the left. If you believe the lies, you're on the left. That's what happens. Well, you so you mentioned Trump saying that Hillary would be in jail and compared the two.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Part of what's different about this is Biden is referring much more vaguely to Republicans and certainly is referring to Republican political leaders. I think we can infer that. But Donald Trump was talking about a specific political leader who is viewed by the vast majority of the public as being corrupt. 50 friends commit suicide. But who committed a specific crime? And it committed a specific crime. Exactly. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:21 I mean, because look, I was in the military and having the clearance that I had. If you just left a document or a folder on the table that said top secret, if you leave that in there empty and you leave the room, you can be charged. Oh, for sure. It's an empty folder. Oh, but it was just yoga emails, right? That's what she said. Look, we all smash our phone with a hammer every now and again.
Starting point is 00:19:38 That's true, yeah. Well, you know, when you work for the government, you're supposed to take a hammer to your phone. It's the craziest thing they did, but they did it. Right. That's amazing. And I heard people say, well, maybe she didn't take it because there's courses that you have to take. It was her staff.
Starting point is 00:19:51 So they're like, well, maybe she didn't take the course. And likely she didn't. But it doesn't mean that you're not culpable for violating law. Yeah, well, I thought ignorance is not an excuse. She should be, according to the law, disqualified from holding office for destroying public record. Yep. Now, that's never going to happen i mean she's disqualified because people aren't going to vote for her that's true see that's the funny thing though right voting works and a lot of people just want to say it doesn't work but i'm like donald trump is kind of proof that if people
Starting point is 00:20:20 look nobody wanted to vote for hillary. Slightly more wanted Donald Trump. Donald Trump wins. The vast majority of people, even 18 months before they voted for Donald Trump, if you'd have told them you're going to vote for Donald Trump for president, they would have laughed at you. That's the reality. A lot of prominent never-Trumpers are now on the Trump train. Right. We've had people on the show where in 2015, 16, they were like, Trump's awful. We can't allow him.
Starting point is 00:20:47 And then they're like, well, he wasn't that bad after all. They ended up voting for him. I think there's a lot wrong with Donald Trump, but I certainly think he did a pretty good job in a lot of areas. And it's remarkable how we went from 2019, no pandemic, best numbers of our lives, best economy. Then a pandemic happens and everyone's like, it's Trump's fault. When it's like, it was the governors. Even right now, I have no problem saying a lot of the issues we're facing are remnants of what the governors did.
Starting point is 00:21:11 And it's not just Democrats. The Democrats are the ones who held on forever and the Republicans backed away from it. But I don't blame Biden for the fact we had a pandemic. I blame him for a specific policies he's enacted since he became president. Right. You have people all the time, especially campaign, they want to know where you're staying on Trump. And the single question that you respond to people with, and this is the God's honest truth, is, listen, the reality is for the most Americans,
Starting point is 00:21:31 what we really care about is how much money we're paying at the pump and how much we're paying for food. That's what we care about. And so I tell people, are you better today under this administration or two years ago? For me, it's very clear that my family, my business, we were much better two years ago. Everybody was, whether they want to admit it or not. Where do you stand on Trump? That is the stance. I mean, I voted for the man twice. I'd be happy to vote for him again.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Are you kidding me? I would vote for just about anybody compared to this moron that's in office right now. Are you kidding me? I'd vote for you for president. I've only known you for two days. He is a moron. Shots fired.
Starting point is 00:22:05 No, I mean, Let's be real. Luke would be a substantially better president than Joe Biden. It's not because Luke is good at policy. It's because Joe Biden is a decrepit old senile man. Senile old man. That's not a compliment. You're not helping me out here. Yeah, it's like on a scale of like 1 to 10 where 1 is just the absolute worst and you're just like something's wrong with you and ten is you're the best leader ever.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Luke's a four and Biden's a one. Oh, wow. Okay. So it makes Luke four times better than Biden. And to be fair, like a four is – My first act as president of the United States was to be abolished the U.S. government of the United States and make everything states' rights. Well, you just went from a 4 to a 10. Abolish all the government agencies,
Starting point is 00:22:50 the ATF immediately, IRS, Federal Reserve, all going down, going back on the gold standard. Three things that are legal. That's kind of weird. Three things that are legal. I was born in Poland. I can't even be a president. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:23:02 But thank you. But thank you. Thank you for taking it off me and my regards. If Arnold didn't fix that yet, you're not going to. Oh, haven't But thank you. But thank you. Thank you for taking me in such high regard. If Arnold didn't fix that yet, you're not going to. You don't have to. Oh, haven't we only had like one Irish Catholic president? Yeah, yes.
Starting point is 00:23:10 I believe Kennedy. Oh, okay. So that didn't work out well. Yeah, exactly. It didn't work out well for him. He tried to move against the big banks and, you know.
Starting point is 00:23:18 And the CIA, too. Yeah. I've heard this. I've heard this. You could put a pumpkin in the White House and the country would run better
Starting point is 00:23:25 We did Yeah we sure did It went really well The policies The reality is The policies under Trump Made us stronger And a stronger America makes a safer world
Starting point is 00:23:41 We've seen that For crying out loud The man had peace deals in the Middle East I'm 41 years old We heard our whole life It's never for crying out loud, the man had peace deals in the Middle East. I'm 41 years old. We heard our whole life, it's never going to happen. There's never going to be peace in the Middle East. And he started making peace deals.
Starting point is 00:23:53 I mean, how do you – I don't understand. They panicked when that happened. Yeah, they should have. They didn't like it. No, the establishment was like, but we need to blow up kids in the Middle East. What are we going to do? We can't have these peace agreements. They're so mad. They're so livid.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Trump was getting our troops out of Syria. He set a timeline for getting out of Afghanistan. He was constantly complaining about how we've got troops everywhere. He's like, why do we have troops in Germany? This makes no sense. And I'm just like, this guy knows what's up. Well, he did move them around. He did bomb certain areas as well, but he did move troops out of Somalia.
Starting point is 00:24:22 He bombed terrorists. Generals of terrorist organizations. It depends. There's some questions to ask specifically when it comes to American foreign policy and the unaccountable drone strikes, but he did take troops out of Somalia and stopped operations there. Biden, just a couple weeks ago, introduced more troops into Somalia and
Starting point is 00:24:39 just two days ago started launching airstrikes inside of that region. Just two days ago. The reality is anybody who inside of that region. More war. Just two days ago. Look, the reality is anybody who advocates for war as somebody who's been to it twice has either never been to war or is profiting from it. That's my stance on it. I believe the vast majority of Americans do not want their sons and daughters to go to wars on foreign soils, spill American blood on foreign soils that has nothing to do with American interests.
Starting point is 00:25:02 I'm telling you right now, that's where the vast majority of Americans stay. That was a left position. That was like the left was all about this. And I remember the 2000s when it was just all protests. Obama's like, I'm going to get our troops up. And then he put our troops in. Let's bring them back home. Bring back our boys. And then look where we are.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Well, it's funny. Obama said that he was going to withdraw the troops, draw down our forces. The first thing he does when he gets in, he says it's bombing families. Immediately. Milwaukee family, which the Biden administration targeted those children, and then Trump targeted as soon as he got into office as well. So as soon as Trump got into office, there was a commando raid in Yemen where –
Starting point is 00:25:41 now here's the challenge. Barack Obama ordered a drone strike which did result in the killing of a 16 year old american citizen in yemen why the u.s bombed a civilian restaurant in yemen we have no real explanation they said oh we were trying to get a terror leader and they end up blowing up some kid an american citizen now a lot of people point this out and i think it's fair to donald trump one of the first things he does when he gets uh inaugurated when he becomes president is order a commando raid which resulted in the death of a seven-year-old girl abdulrahman al-alaki's little sister however the the death of abdulrahman al-alaki the 16 year old is well known and documented and admitted the death of the little
Starting point is 00:26:21 girl is claimed by the family so So there is a difference there. I still think we shouldn't be, Trump should not have been ordering commando raids in Yemen or helping Saudi Arabia in this manner, but there's a slight difference in the confirmation of these stories. Yeah, lots of things, especially when it comes to geopolitics
Starting point is 00:26:39 that become a lot more complicated, a lot deeper down the rabbit hole than we could even understand on them, especially when we hear about the public stories and what really happened. There's usually a big discrepancy between both of those. Oh, absolutely. I mean, quite honestly, we were talking about it earlier. We really don't even know what to believe anymore.
Starting point is 00:26:57 There's so much propaganda. And this is from, I mean, not just our government, from everywhere. There's so much propaganda now that nobody knows what to believe anymore. And that's a huge problem. If the American people don't know who to trust for information, then – It's almost like that's on purpose. It's a demoralization. Yuri Bezmenov.
Starting point is 00:27:12 I mean, especially about foreign policy, right? It's really difficult to get information about that and report accurately. And so much of the information we get turns out to be untrue. You mentioned that you're a veteran. It's also interesting because I found that that was not as important an issue to me until I started becoming friends with people who had fought in some of these wars, and they ended up red pilling me on American foreign policy. There's this idea that veterans are pro-war in some way. I have found that absolutely hasn't been the case. And if I'm not mistaken, was Ron Paul not the most donated to candidate by u.s service members yeah absolutely yeah so the people who actually see this stuff
Starting point is 00:27:50 almost always end up opposing and his policy was non-interventionalism his policy was taking the troops back into the united states zero basis priority issues here inside of the united states rather than of course being the policemen of the world which which i think there's some important context to especially with the way that plan has played out in places like Afghanistan. That was an absolute mess and a huge investment of wasted money that made the situation that much worse on the ground. And I just want to say this. I'm glad you mentioned that, just in case this didn't hit home
Starting point is 00:28:16 for any of the audience members who aren't entirely familiar with Ron Paul and maybe just sort of vaguely know him as libertarian. Probably the most anti-war presidential candidate this country has ever had yeah dr no yep let's talk about uh where we're going domestically though we have this story from timcast.com it's all from timcast.com pro-abortion protesters show up at the home of justice kavanaugh hours after man arrested for failed assassination attempts so this story was from yesterday but you know this morning this morning, let me tell you guys. You know about what happened last night if you watched the show.
Starting point is 00:28:49 We were forced to evacuate the building. There was a credible threat. It sucks. After we came back in, Jeremy Hambly of the quartering was swatted, and we believe by the same person. There were similarities to the incidents. Ours was substantially different. There were enough similarities to where we think it was the same person. There were similarities to the incidents. Ours was substantially different. There were enough similarities
Starting point is 00:29:08 to where we think it was the same person. Upon seeing that, so Jeremy of the Quartering has got a big YouTube channel. They apparently pinned him on the ground, cuffed him. They had pointed guns in the face of his wife. And it's particularly brutal. I wake up and I see this story.
Starting point is 00:29:24 That a man... So first, let's go back in time. People announced their intent to protest at the homes of the Supreme Court justices, which is a federal crime. Merrick Garland says, so what? Jen Psaki encourages it. She says, we certainly encourage more of this. She outright said they encourage it. They are outright saying to commit crimes.
Starting point is 00:29:44 And there's no justice. I warned if people go to these homes and they are not held to account and being held to account means you get a slap on the wrist. They take you to the department, take a picture of you and you leave. You go to court and the judge says, don't do it again. And that's the end of it. It's a slap on the wrist. Nothing happens to you, right right but that line is set that we will arrest you because non-violent civil disobedience i said if we don't do that they will escalate to the next point well they jumped the shark i mean the next the next escalation would have been like vandalism but a dude shows up with zip ties crowbar a knife a glock i think in a glock 17 yeah it's gonna be a bad night it was going to be a bad night. It was going to be a very bad night. And this guy ends up
Starting point is 00:30:25 confessing, turns himself in, and the protesters came back. And there's no justice. So after everything we go through, and we're not that far away. I don't want to say just how close, but we are relatively close.
Starting point is 00:30:42 And there's no justice. There's no law. I can't see people in this country having confidence in the government when they know that not only is one political faction allowed to just blatantly, flagrantly break the law, but that they are encouraged to do so by the White House press secretary. And here we are after an assassination attempt. The only thing I can hope for is that they announced next week there's going to be Monday and Wednesday
Starting point is 00:31:08 opinion rulings, which is going to be big because I believe this may be the last chance they have to issue their opinions on Roe and Casey and gun control legislation out of New York.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Hopefully Brett Kavanaugh sees this and he just goes, people should have guns. Constitutional carry nationwide. Love it. I certainly hope so. Otherwise, i think what we're looking at is we've been swatted several times we've had credible threats we had a threat in nashville we were gonna we were gonna play a show at john rich's place and then we actually had a very serious incident occur and they were like we can't we can't do it
Starting point is 00:31:41 there's like kids and there's families so we were forced to cancel it this is the state of politics in this country during the generation that watched hannity you know rachel maddow the older generation they're they're not they're not doing these things you look at that splc poll that we showed up well we pulled up several uh several times now the older generation overwhelmingly does not favor political assassinations. Young women, Republican and Democrat, young men, Republican and Democrat, over one third of all of these support
Starting point is 00:32:13 political assassinations, with Democratic men being the highest at 44% of them supporting assassinations. And this is where we are, which says to me, in the next 10 years, it's going to be, if this sentiment is this prominent, I can only imagine the next 10, 15, and 20 years, it's going to become mainstream and normal to see this kind of violence.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Yeah. I mean, honestly, this is a, and we talked about it a little bit yesterday, this is the value of human life issue. It really is. I mean, the fact that these people showed back up to Brett Kavanaugh's house, nobody even, were they not thinking, what about their kids? What about their wife? How are they feeling right now?
Starting point is 00:32:47 They believe that their husband and that their father was just the target of an assassination. You don't have any compassion? Well, no, they don't. They want power. And this is the best opportunity for them in their minds. Why? Brett Kavanaugh is scared. Someone just tried to kidnap and murder him.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Now the protest is a threat. And they don't have to say the words because it's already been made yeah well and i would argue the protest has been a threat the entire time what is the purpose of protesting outside of the home of someone who never has to run for re-election who's in a lifetime appointment you're not telling them that they're going to lose at the ballot box because public opinion is against them no so what are you trying to show them yeah what are you trying to show them by saying, we are a bunch of angry people outside of your house who don't want you to make a particular decision?
Starting point is 00:33:29 You're trying to intimidate them. I mean, imagine being a person like, oh, hey, someone just tried to assassinate that person and his family. Let's go outside of this home and call him a liar. Like, what is wrong with people? It makes absolutely no rational sense at all. And where's the humanity?
Starting point is 00:33:45 Where's the caring? Where's the consideration of like, hey, maybe this is not the best time to go scream at him and his family. They know they're allowed to do it. They have been encouraged to break the law by the current administration. There are zero consequences. And if the way to get their political agenda across
Starting point is 00:34:02 and either establish the social order that they want to establish or protect what they already have in place means that you have to intimidate someone or they get killed. They are clearly okay with that. They are clearly completely comfortable with it. And no one's talking about the fact this guy had zip ties. Who even says he was just going after the justice himself? You're right. He was outside of his family's house.
Starting point is 00:34:19 He could have had a plot to kidnap them. And they're out there the next day protesting it again. No, not the next day. Afterwards. Literally the same day. hours hours every single democratic political leader needs to be asked whether they disavow this it doesn't matter exactly what they're not what's the point of asking it right do you think there's going to be a democrat voter somewhere who's going to be like i'm so surprised they supported the thing I protested at? That is a true statement.
Starting point is 00:34:47 No, there's no negotiating. Maybe there are some regular people who don't know. We're driving in the car with my buddy who doesn't pay attention that much. And I pick up my phone. I'm scrolling through Twitter. And I go, so there was a child drag show in Texas, right? And then he goes, what? And then I was like, well, that wasn't the point I was trying to make. I was going to say
Starting point is 00:35:05 they were protesters. But yeah, you didn't know? He's like, what do you mean child drag shows? I'm like, these are happening all over the place. But they don't know. So even, to go back to yesterday, the lawsuit that we are waging against these books that are in schools that are sexually explicit, a lot of parents
Starting point is 00:35:21 who have kids in schools, they don't know that these books are in there. So here's the issue I'm getting to with this. Watching these hearings, the people who are watching it, if someone asks them, do you disavow this? The people at home,
Starting point is 00:35:35 the cognitive dissonance, the zombified Democrat people are going to be like, you're in the other tribe. You want bad thing. I agree with a certain percentage, but part of the reason the left has been effective in their tactics is because whenever they believe they have found a reason to shame you, they hit you over the head with it over and over and over and over again. And so I think it is an effective – it's not just an effective technique. I think it's the right thing to do to say, hey, do you support this?
Starting point is 00:36:00 Do you disavow this? Do you have any kind of leg to stand on when you talk about insurrection or political violence or stability or anything along those lines? I think it's a reasonable question, and they do need to be asked. I want to – go ahead. No, I was going to say if the other side, if the Democrats aren't willing to speak against this, then they shouldn't speak until January 6th. I want to pull up this tweet from Jack Posobiec. I just want to make one more point. If they refuse to condemn something like this, it just totally undermines their credibility with the center.
Starting point is 00:36:27 If there was any that they had left with the center, obviously their political base is insane. There's no center. The center is right wing. I think there are a number of people who would say like, oh, I think January 6th was serious or an insurrection or they don't know any better. But they would not be on board with a commission led by people who are OK with a center. I think Tim's right. There isn't a center anymore because they're calling you an extremist. They're calling me right wing.
Starting point is 00:36:49 The left is, yeah. Joe Rogan is right wing. Yes. So not only is there no center, but even center leftists are right wing now. Right. Yeah. So let me pull up this tweet from Jack Posobiec. Yeah, it's important.
Starting point is 00:36:59 He tweets, hi, Simon Gwynn. Why did you delete this? Huh. And this is a tweet from a, let's see, Simon Gwynn. Let's pull up his profile. What do we got here? He has a Ukrainian flag, so Gwynn. Why did you delete this? And this is a tweet from a... Let's see, Simon Gwynn. Let's pull up his profile. What do we got here? He's a Ukrainian flag. He supports current things.
Starting point is 00:37:11 He tweeted, Interesting real-life trolley problem in America now. If you had the chance to kill Clarence Thomas or Samuel Alito, the two oldest right-wing Supreme Court judges, should you do it while Biden can get his nominees to replace them confirmed? I love that ratio. It's interesting as an abstract question, but becomes a real conundrum of say you are terminally ill and have little to lose yourself. He's basically trying to incite someone.
Starting point is 00:37:34 These people are insane. They have celebrated this stuff. We need more than ever, you know, people to back off, to stop. They're not. They're not being held accountable for it. There's no law enforcement going after them. You're literally advocating hate crime. Let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:37:51 We had a tweet from Keemstar. Do you guys know Keemstar? Yeah. Keemstar is a drama alert on YouTube. Apparently, there was some dude who made a joke about doxing someone at YouTube. So they demonetized his channel, took away all of his revenue. What had happened was, and this is just for me watching a Keemstar video, so I don't know, you guys fact check it,
Starting point is 00:38:10 but there's some relevance here. He says, this guy got doxed. He reached out to YouTube and said, hey look, someone published my private information. YouTube said, too bad. So then he made a joke saying, oh okay, so I guess it's okay, I could dox you, right? And they went, boom, demonetized his channel. What
Starting point is 00:38:24 Keemstar then brings up is Ethan Klein, saying that he knows for a fact that there were YouTube employees at the NRA convention that Ethan Klein called to bomb. So Ethan Klein, the host of the H3 podcast, comparable size to this show, called on people to commit an act of terror before very quickly walking it back, saying, okay, I got a little passionate there, got a little passionate.
Starting point is 00:38:47 All that happened was a strike. Keemstar said, why would one guy get his entire channel purged of all monetization abilities, but even Klein can call for a terror attack, and all he gets is a strike? Well, that raises a question that I wanted to raise, sorry, before we move on. We were talking about this guy who came to Kavanaavanaugh's house how did he know where to go oh right because they put directions to kavanaugh's house on social media why is that still up why is ethan klein allowed to call for an actual terror attack and they allow it they they took the video down they did suspend him that's true they gave he was passionate he was passionate yeah it's true but
Starting point is 00:39:24 he but he also probably had a cranny play he wasn't just it wasn't just that he said i was allow it. They took the video down. They did suspend him. That's true. He was passionate. He was passionate. Yeah, that's true. Probably had a cranny of life. It wasn't just that. He said, I was just joking. He also told people to take guns, go outside the home of a governor, and fire them into the air, which is just insane. For lots of reasons.
Starting point is 00:39:41 He also seemed to believe that an AR-15 is fully auto because when he said to get your AR-15s and fire them, he went, like he thought it was full auto. And then when I guess his producer said, no, no, that's dangerous. You can't do that. Bolts come down. He goes, well, blanks then. Blanks are fine, right? And it's like, either way, the dude actively called for his audience to commit acts
Starting point is 00:39:58 of assault with deadly weapons. And what happened? A single strike. A single strike. A single strike. Alex Jones got banned from YouTube for making a metaphor about battle rifles. Well, would I be safe in assuming that the address for Kavanaugh's house is still up on the protesters? I'm pretty sure it is, yeah. Yeah, it's still up on the organizers' page.
Starting point is 00:40:18 I mean, how is that legal? How is that legal? I have no idea. I got fully demonetized for years for I don't know what. Just doing what I'm doing here on this show. It's a t-shirt. It's me and Luke. You did confront the CEO of Google.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Yes, I did. How scary are you? I did. That'll do it. At Bilderberg. He wasn't really happy, but that's another thing. Luke's – I was asking for it.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Did you know Luke's been to Epstein Island? No. How was that? It's all the framing. We're back in this conundrum here. Yeah. Good work, Luke. It's like, how do I explain this one again?
Starting point is 00:40:44 So the first time I brought it up, Luke didn't catch what it sounds like. It sounds like he was invited there. Yeah, like I was one of the pervy presidents or tech guys, CEOs that was heading there. And no, no, no. Not at all. I crashed it afterwards. He did some investigation. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:02 So after it was already cleared out, he got in a boat and did some investigation there but likely story yeah luke just happened to have old footage he's like how do i convince people i wasn't really i take it back you can't be president yeah sorry no that means i can be president no it's a requirement it's a necessity. But seriously, in all reality, why are we at a spot as a nation that even that joke has some truth to it? Come on, man. Because Maxwell was convicted. No, no. It's so sad that that's where we're at. It really is.
Starting point is 00:41:37 I think it's funny that there was a poll, and it was like 57% of Republicans believe that the country is being run by a cabal of pedos or whatever. And I'm just like, I mean, the Epstein thing is proven to be real. I'm not surprised people are like, Bill Clinton flew on that plane. And then they believe that. What are they trying to claim with these news stories? It's kind of hard to deny it, honestly. And there's no transparency. There's nothing about that trial that's out.
Starting point is 00:42:06 And it's only scratching the surface. This is what we know publicly. Still, majority of that is still behind the scenes. It's still held in secret. It's still classified. The documents have been sealed in that case. Right. So there is still, it's sealed because the judge said some of the details here are so shocking and salacious,
Starting point is 00:42:22 the general public can't see this. This is what the judge ruled in that specific case. So you can only imagine, this is what we're getting from the outside point of view, only 1% of what is really happening. But nobody's standing outside of that judge's house and protesting. That's very true. Or demanding for those documents to be unsealed, or for the information to make public light, or for those victims to truly get justice for all of the horrible things that they have to go through. While, of course, police officers, judges, prosecutors, the FBI, intelligence agencies were all looking the other way.
Starting point is 00:42:56 That's another aspect of this that really should make you wonder. And it's, you know, what's happening right now is just the epitome of not holding power to account. And this is what happens. This is routinely what happens when you allow people to get away with these things. They're going to try to get away with bigger and bigger things as time goes on. And I think this is the phase that we're in right now, an extremely dangerous phase for everyone. And how is it a political issue? That's the thing I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:43:30 When people are hurting little kids and you're sexually exploiting little kids how is this a partisan issue this should be a human issue the left look i see these memes all day on facebook they're saying things like republicans don't want anyone to know that some people have two dads and i'm like i'm pretty sure republicans are mad that the book they're getting challenged has a picture of adult you with one person going down. And they're like, what? And I'm like, okay, dude, if you get your news from memes on Facebook, you're probably going to be misinformed. 100%. They genuinely believe that Republicans are complaining
Starting point is 00:43:57 because a book showed a kid with two dads. And I'm like, well, look, some. Sure. But are you going to single out that or are you going to focus on what the news story is actually about the book genderqueer yeah i was like if you look at loudon county they're talking about a book that shows a white hand from white person with a devil tail coming out demonizing white people outright i'm like yeah i'm i'm not surprised that people are upset about racism but But you didn't actually read anything.
Starting point is 00:44:27 You just believe whatever Rachel Maddow says, so you have no idea what's going on. And their issue, so for us, those two books that we've put forth in this lawsuit, only thing we're asking for is parental consent. Parental consent for parents, for minors to view sexually explicit material. Very simple.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Restoring parental rights, that's all. The problem is that these two books are really PG compared to some of the other books that are in circulation in public schools. There are books in schools that have a six-year-old girl bound and gagged and gang raped. This is in
Starting point is 00:44:58 the public school system, but people are acting like it's not a big deal. Have you ever read Stephen King? Should we give that to sixth graders, though? Probably not. Well, honestly, I don't know. Do schools have Stephen King novels in their libraries? I don't think they do.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Maybe not. I mean, because they're adult and they're probably graphic. But I don't – you know what's funny is most people have seen his movies. They've not read his books. Right. Yo, if you read those stories, you're going to be like, hold on there a minute. I can't get into them. They're way too dark for me. It's not about the dark. Well, I mean, yeah, it's like
Starting point is 00:45:28 most people don't realize that there's a lot of graphic adult scenes among children in those books. Another reason not to like it. Yeah, I remember people You're not selling it for me. That's disgusting. I remember people mentioning that
Starting point is 00:45:42 after it came out. Is that the case with is that like a, I mean, regardless, disgusting. I remember people mentioning that after it came out. Is that the case with... I mean, regardless, disgusting. I didn't know that that was a theme with the rest of his books. That is so... I just don't understand how that... Well, I actually, given the behavior of the FBI, I do understand how that flies. That's a theme, and
Starting point is 00:46:00 you watch Stephen King on Twitter, and you're like, oh, yeah, this all makes sense. Here's the issue, though. If you look at throughout human history, societies fall, civilizations fall when they're paying their military the least, entertainment the most, and they're focused on sexuality. You look at it over and over again. These are some of the key issues that revolve around some civilizations falling. And look at where we're at as a nation. We really have to get back.
Starting point is 00:46:22 The degradation and destruction of civilization usually has these final steps. I saw a meme out there with a child talking to the dog people who were dressed in their full fetish behaviors. And the meme read, this is how civilizations collapse. Yeah, correct.
Starting point is 00:46:39 It's disgusting. Well, think about it. You look at the left's entire mission, and it has been for decades, if not centuries, is to just break down all sexual morality and what taboos are left there. Right. What taboos have yet to be broken down? I kind of feel— Those are the ones that they're going to try to do away with.
Starting point is 00:46:56 I'm sorry. It's been their mission. Look at Alfred Kinsey. The one thing that all of these cultural shifts they're trying to push have in common is less children. Every single one. For one, they're outright saying don't have kids, the environment. Then they're encouraging activities that don't result in having kids. They're encouraging abortion.
Starting point is 00:47:15 They encourage meaningful sex. It's not all bad. Birth control. Tell kids birth control and condoms and prophylactics and all this stuff. Those are fine. But all of it, it's like, hey, all of these things result in less kids. The child transitioning, less kids. Sterilization of young people.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Literally the sterilization of an entire generation. What a coincidence. That's potentially. The birth control thing should also be talked about skeptically because there is some data and science coming out that is very troubling surrounding that specifically. Yeah, we mass medicate young girls. Yeah, mess up with their hormones. on not normal. Messing with their
Starting point is 00:47:46 hormones. From their teens, yeah. That they can't go back from. Create damages that are with them for the rest of their lives. Yeah, putting people in hormone blockers and they act like it's reversible. It's not. It's not. You look at contraceptives in general and the idea that you would take this profound and
Starting point is 00:48:02 beautiful human interaction which creates new life and totally shift the cultural understanding of it as this is just something that's for fun. And it's, I mean, no wonder we have a societal breakdown. And it's also interesting because our society is totally two-faced with it, right? It's like, have sex, have sex, have sex, have sex. Never have children, never have children, never have children. Well, I'm sorry, one leads to the other. It's very, it's like, do.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Not the way they're telling you to do it. Yeah. No, I understand that. Every push results in less kids. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. And it's like, do. Not the way they're telling you to do it. Yeah. No, I understand that. Every push results in less kids. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. And it's no surprise.
Starting point is 00:48:29 I mean, people like Bill Gates, he did a TED Talk on this. He said, we need to reduce population growth. Well, it's no surprise then that he and many other support programs that result either. It reminds me of that Simpsons episode where they, you remember the join the Navy thing? Yeah. When they play the boy band song backwards. Yeah, they're in the boy band. It's Ivan and Yoish.
Starting point is 00:48:48 And then the recruiter is explaining to Lisa how he does it. He's like, we do, he's like subliminal, liminal, and super liminal. And she's like, super liminal? And he goes, yeah. And he opens the window. Hey, you, join the Navy. And then Lenny and Carla are like, all right. And then later you see him getting on the bus.
Starting point is 00:49:03 Like, that's all it took. That's what I feel like. You've got the subliminal, which is the you should be on birth control. You know, having kids is a nightmare. Don't have kids where they outright are just saying like, oh, it's bad. It's worse. Just have fun and engage in these lifestyles. Then you have the superliminal, which is just outright being like the environment is hurting and it's your fault for having kids.
Starting point is 00:49:23 So don't have kids. And then you have the kind of unconscious chemical castration of individuals, as even some fish off the coast of Florida were found to have antidepressants within their system because the pills, the big pharma, are never truly dealt with. They're just kind of pushed on into a different kind of environment where fish take them, we eat the fish, we get affected by these specific big pharma pills that there's no getting rid of. That's another aspect of it. Historically, obviously, you had classes of people who didn't have children,
Starting point is 00:49:54 but generally, at least in the West and in Christendom, those people were celibate and they were focused on other things. They were contributing in really serious and significant ways. Now what we're doing is we're ensuring that virtually all of the population either doesn't have children or they don't have children at replacement rate. And we just keep them distracted with non-procreative sex and whatever new gadget comes out that they want to buy. And so it's not as if the energy that would be expended towards having children and raising a family is placed into some other arena, which is productive for the culture society as a whole, it's all just thrown in to seeking base pleasure. Right. Which is why I mean, so for me moving forward, one of the things that I'm I'm passionate about focusing on is protecting the family unit.
Starting point is 00:50:39 I think the family is I mean, is the basic building block of society and we have to protect the family unit. Yeah. Well, and you mentioned this, right? One of the signs of a declining society is this obsession with sex. And part of the reason that there has to be this obsession is so you can break down the barriers because sex is the building block of the family, which is the building block of the society. And if you can corrupt the understanding of that, you can tear everything else down. I want to jump to this tweet here and talk about the next story in the crumbling of society. James Woods, real James Woods on Twitter, says,
Starting point is 00:51:08 To the whiners who criticized a defender ending the deadly threat in a previous video, here's an example of the consequences of being defenseless to today's predators. You choose. This is a viral video. It's a story from just, I think, a few weeks ago. A woman worked at a cell phone store and a man walked in. And she said, how can I help you? And he said, do you have, and then just started
Starting point is 00:51:28 brutally beating her and I believe trying to kill her. He was stomping as hard as he could on her head. She escaped. She was seriously hurt. We have this story from the Daily Mail. Shocking moment. Thugs exchange gunfire on busy New York City street in the middle of the day. Repeated gang member
Starting point is 00:51:43 shot in the shoulder as an unidentified gunman remains on the loose. Then we have this one. NYPD hunt for two thugs after a 61-year-old man is sucker punched and killed while walking down a Brooklyn street near his home. Police investigating possible drug robbery. Punched him in the face one time, and he was dead. That's all it takes. That's why that woman in the first video is absolutely lucky to still be alive.
Starting point is 00:52:06 The damages that she sustained will probably be with her for a very long time. Might be with her for the rest of her life. When you stomp someone on the ground on their head, so many people die from that, from physical altercations. But the issue here is the crime itself. The attack is one attack. What I'm trying to bring up is in all of these major cities, in New York especially, crime has been insane. We had that young woman on the Upper West Side walking home when a bunch of young boys just stabbed her to death. She tried running. She escaped.
Starting point is 00:52:38 They grabbed her again and just started stabbing her again. Homicides in San Francisco went up 11%. It's almost like if you advocate for defunding the police, that crime will go up. I think what we're seeing is a demoralization. The good cops were quitting. Yeah. But also the cities themselves are just breaking down for a variety of reasons. The increase in crime is due to a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Yeah. It's due to these DAs that won't prosecute. That's why Chesa Boudin or however it's called got recalled. Because people were like, well, they won't do anything about it. And then they released him back to the streets. Right. It's all in the name of this woke equity. Being fair and just.
Starting point is 00:53:17 I mean, you have some of these people who have been caught committing the crime and they're letting them go. And a lot of these criminals know that they could beat someone up. They could hurt. They could do whatever they want to the population there because they're letting them go. And a lot of these criminals know that they could beat someone up, they could hurt, they could do whatever they want to the population there because they can't defend themselves. In New York City, almost every common sense form of self-defense is not allowed. Whatever tools you could have to protect yourself, you can't have in New York City. So a lot of people are talking about poverty. A lot of people are talking about single parent homes here.
Starting point is 00:53:41 I think the true problem is, I mean, how do you quantify this? How can you blame it on one particular thing when it's so many other issues coming together for this kind of larger eruption of violence that there's no going back from? No, you're absolutely right. But I also think that it comes back down to the base thing. We no longer value human life. You don't look at somebody and they have value. So, I mean, as a Christian, certainly as an ordained minister, I look at somebody, they have value because they create the image of God. So you have value just because you're a human being.
Starting point is 00:54:10 We don't have that anymore. We're moving so far away from that as a society that we no longer value somebody. Exactly. Well, absolutely. And we're not taught to value other people in a very bizarre, narcissistic way. We're sort of taught to value ourselves. Everything is me, me, me, me, and do whatever you want or need to do to get what is going to be pleasurable for you.
Starting point is 00:54:27 But there's never any emphasis put on caring for other people, ever. And so when somebody does end up, you know, you mentioned poverty and how people will bring that up. And poverty is not really the best explanation because there are people in there even in entire... That's the AOC explanation. No, no, no. I'm not saying that that's an explanation you would argue is the case or tells the full story.
Starting point is 00:54:46 But there are many cultures and even entire civilizations which are radically impoverished compared to our extremely wealthy and abundant society. And they are not acting like barbarians and stabbing. Children are not running around stabbing women. And men are not beating up old men on the streets or going into places of business and just savagely beating innocent women right i love i love how uh aoc we have this story from uh july of 2020 when she defends the rise in crime saying people are stealing bread to feed their children during record unemployment the aoc it's like people were getting shot in the streets and she was like they're trying to steal bread and it's like they just shot a guy in front of his daughter.
Starting point is 00:55:27 They didn't take anything from her. There's no bread there. We're not complaining about the bread theft. No. And here's the thing too, man. The media allows these radical left people and really all politicians. But we see the radical lying to the American people over and over and over again. And there's no accountability.
Starting point is 00:55:45 None. So we're not holding people accountable. You're not holding politicians accountable. We see the radical lying to the American people over and over and over again, and there's no accountability, none. So we're not holding people accountable. You're not holding politicians accountable. You're not holding people accountable. Law and order is just out the window. Society falls like this. This is exactly how society falls. I think it's weak men make hard times.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Yep. What we're seeing is you guys are basically saying that no one cares for each other. There's no sense of community. No. Because everyone feels like everyone else is just out to get them or get for themselves. So they're just like – you see these cops in Uvalde, and these cops refuse to go in. And I'm just like – because they're not thinking about their community or the betterment of civilization. They're thinking me. Well, that – or it's a breakdown of leadership, too. So, I mean, I know law enforcement in my community, and one of the things that they said was the people inside standing in the stack were actually listening to their commanding officer who said don't go in.
Starting point is 00:56:34 It shifted from an active shooter to a hostage situation. So their protocol was very different for them. But that information is not true. With the overwhelming amount of evidence coming forward right now, they knew it was an active shooter. They had all the evidence it was an active shooter. And they were already inside of that school, and then they just left and abandoned those children there.
Starting point is 00:56:54 So that's another aspect. It was reported they could hear the children getting shot. It was reported that... I'm not giving an excuse for it. I'm just saying that's what... That's their public explanation. They've been lying through their teeth, though,'s what I do believe. That's their public explanation. That's the public explanation for it. They've been lying through their teeth, though, from the beginning of this.
Starting point is 00:57:09 It's crazy. I mean, the interesting story in that, to me, in all of that is one mom was arrested, put in handcuffs. She got released from the handcuffs, jumped a fence, rescued her two kids, and came back. I mean, this is— And she reported how there was active gunshots when the police were telling everyone that there was no active shooting situation. Then a father went in with a shotgun. You could hear the guns. Well, it was a father and a team that went in with a shield and then went and took out the threat after disobeying orders and finally doing the thing that they should have been doing from the very beginning. But that man also waited over 30 plus minutes on the scene.
Starting point is 00:57:46 It's crazy. It's a long time. When you're hearing shooting and you're seeing that situation and people are just waiting. But calling for a change in legislation and calling for more legislation as a result, it just isn't the right answer. Because if legislation was actually what fixed it, it wouldn't have happened to start with. There's multiple laws broken. You can't fix cultural problems with policy. Nope.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Never. And I don't see us finding – I don't see there being a way to fix our cultural problems. Well, I mean – and you also got to realize too, I think, and I think I said it yesterday, we can never allow times of tragedy to dictate policy. Because every time you do that, you're just opening up the future opportunity for people to actually create the tragedy to strip you of whatever rights or freedoms you want next. I think – Well, this is what's happening with the gun control debate. Yeah, totally. It's like we're all shocked. So we're saying do something.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Do what? Do something. If you don't have a plan, the meme is keep calm and carry on, not freak out and just do something. Right. Do something is not always the answer. Thomas Macy had some very good tweets about the legislation that they're proposing and the counter evidence to it on his public Twitter account that I think is worth considering and looking at, especially when it comes to the latest political debates surrounding this very hot button issue. And he made a lot of very good points. So if you look at so historically, while you're looking at it, so historically, look at prior to 1970, there wasn't a decade.
Starting point is 00:59:05 If my numbers are right, there's not a decade there was more than 10 mass shootings. I think in 1950, there was one. In 1960, there was six. In 1970, there was 13. I think it was 32 and 42. To me, I always want to look at what's the root cause. The root cause around all of that was absolutely a cultural shift. In 1962, 1963, they took prayer and Bible without schools.
Starting point is 00:59:25 In 70s, that was when Roe v. Wade happened. So you're having all this stuff going on with abortions. So as a society, our values shifted drastically during that time. It's not actually the late 60s and 70s. It's the generation before because the boomers were raised by a generation. Right. They had those values. Once they grew up, they enacted those values.
Starting point is 00:59:46 What we're seeing now with millennials in wokeness were values instilled in them when they were like 10. Right. I remember being young, having all of the teachers talk about, you know,
Starting point is 00:59:54 racism being bad and civil rights and we had to learn the true history of civil rights and everything. Well, for them, the older generation that raises us,
Starting point is 01:00:03 they live through it. They experience it. Oh, I get it. You then raise a younger generation on telling them you must fight racism. What happens when they grow up and most of these policies have already been made illegal? They're looking for it as hard as they can because they were raised in this world. One of the things that really impacted everybody was imagine you're 10 years old in 2008 and you're on Facebook. Let's say 2012. Let's say 10 years ago. You're 10 years old in 2008. And you're on Facebook.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Let's say 2012. Let's say 10 years ago. You're 10 years old. Say you're 8 years old. And on Facebook, all you're seeing are videos of police brutality. Yeah. Because that was making people money, and the algorithm kept promoting it. Yep.
Starting point is 01:00:39 If that's the only thing you see, your whole world growing up from 8 to 18 was watching videos of police brutality. You turn 18, and you're freaking out. You're like, I have to vote to stop this. Their whole world is based on an algorithm. Right. I mean, they're the enemy. The police are hunting black people.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Right. It's like, yo, calm down, dude. But the reality is the vast majority of all law enforcement are great people. They're willing to put themselves between you and any stuff anybody that wants you harm once we wish you harm and that's that's a huge thing we have to advocate for our police gen z is going to be the algorithm generation millennials grew up half and half when we were young we didn't we had the internet but we didn't have these algorithms we get into our you know early 20s or whatever late 20s and now we have
Starting point is 01:01:24 these these algorithms manipulating our views but half of our lives are still built upon the previous non-social media infrastructure. Gen Z is basically growing up in an algorithmic world. Their adult lives are all algorithmic. Gen Alpha, 100% of it is. So their worlds are all going to be completely controlled by the whims of Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey and YouTube. Yep. When the boomers and the Gen Xers age out, this country is going to go into full-on conflict or chaos, violence, just you name it. It'll be interesting to see the shift. There'll definitely be a shift.
Starting point is 01:02:03 But I actually think that – I actually think the way – especially right now, as radical as – because the left isn't no longer – they're not liberals. I know liberals. They're now radicals running the Democrat Party. So I actually think that they're going to create a generation of truly conservative people. That's what I believe. Maybe. I think the bigger issue is that conservatives have kids and the left doesn't. And if the left doesn't win the fight – but it's true.
Starting point is 01:02:26 I mean it's scientifically true. It's very true. If the left doesn't win the fight in schools, then they are gone. Right. Like literally within a couple of generations. And people are pulling their kids out of school. Right. They're putting them in private school.
Starting point is 01:02:36 They're going homeschooling, which I would advocate for. This is it right here. If you homeschool your kids, that's it. Every single post-liberal, moderate, centrist, libertarian, conservative said, I'm going to homeschool my kids. Within three generations, all the left is gone. Oh, yeah. Completely.
Starting point is 01:02:53 So what people don't understand, these big shifts you mentioned, like in the 70s with Roe v. Wade, what's really happening is that power is held by people in society, that power is used to control and spread messages or enact policy. Typically, the older generation controls a disproportionate amount of wealth.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Right now, boomers control more wealth than the previous generation did when they were the same age as millennials. Basically, millennials should be holding, I think, like 20 or 30 percent of wealth. They hold like three. Boomers hold like 25 or something. I was reading some report on this. What's going to happen is boomers are going to slowly start dying. They're getting old.
Starting point is 01:03:32 When they do, that wealth and power will transfer to a millennial or to a Gen Xer, probably from a boomer to a millennial, maybe some younger, zennial types, people who are in their early 40s. When that starts happening, that power will be wielded as per the ideology of the younger people. And these younger people, according to the SPLC,
Starting point is 01:03:50 favor political assassinations more so. So if a billion dollars is held by someone who's 80 years old, they're not going to be spending it towards extremism. If they die
Starting point is 01:03:58 and that wealth transfers to their five young heirs who are more likely to believe in violence, that wealth will now be utilized in that direction. It's not that a society, over time, decides, like, young heirs who are more likely to believe in violence, that wealth will now be utilized in that direction. It's not that a society over time decides, like a lot of people think that there's a guy named Bob and Bob one day turns on the YouTube and goes, wow, I have been radicalized
Starting point is 01:04:16 and then grabs a tiki torch and goes outside. What really happens is that Bob sees the YouTube videos and goes, wow, that's crazy. And then Bob tells his kid, and he says, you see this stuff? Man, life shouldn't be this way. Then that kid grows up, grabs a tiki torch, and goes outside. It's when the older generation dies off, that shift we see isn't that society has decided something, like a person's mind changed. It's that the people of certain values no longer live,
Starting point is 01:04:40 and the power transfers to those of different ideas. That's why I advocate for values. Faith, family, freedom. longer live and the power transfers to those of different ideas. Yep. That's why I advocate for values. Values. Exactly. Faith, family, freedom. These are the three things that I think that are building blocks for our society historically is what it made us a great nation. If we come back to those things, I really do believe that's the hope for our future. Is there any way to politically achieve those?
Starting point is 01:04:56 What kind of things would you propose, legislation or action plans that would help bring that forward? Well, first, I mean, I would absolutely put forth legislation codifying parental rights, saying that parents have rights over their children's medical and education decisions. And in that, I think that the money for education should follow the student. So whether a parent decides they're going to go to public school, they're going to go to private school, or they're going to go to homeschool. Whatever that money is that goes to those students, that credit goes to that student.
Starting point is 01:05:25 New Hampshire already does this. It should. And it should be federally. Federally, that should happen. If we're going to put money in to the government because we want to take care of the education of our children, then we should follow our kids wherever they go. Of course. That makes sense to me. Donald Trump proposed the voucher system. I absolutely agree with.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Yeah, 100%. I don't know if it's the true one solution to helping kids with schools and fixing the school problems. I mean, dissolving the Department of Education and pushing that down to the state levels is a huge start. Yes. Yeah. Also, I mean, look, it's not just the fact that children would no longer be indoctrinated in the same way if parents had any choice about where they could send their children to school, but also we would probably end up achieving at a higher level with respect to education, generally speaking, if schools had to compete for students.
Starting point is 01:06:10 And so what the left will say when they argue against school choice, and this is such an unbelievable self-own, but they'll say, you only advocate for school choice because you want to bankrupt public schools. All right, well, you're admitting parents would send their kid anywhere else if they had a choice. Yeah, the public schools are that bad. Make them better. Exactly. So it's like, well, school choice wouldn't be a threat if we had public schools which were decently run and you wanted to put the effort into making them function decently.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Parents should have a choice with their kids. Public schools are a net negative on your children. Yeah. 100%. Parents don't want their children indoctrinated. They want our children to be educated. The basics. You know what?
Starting point is 01:06:49 Reading, writing, arithmetic. I mean, STEM studies. These are the basic things that we want for our kids. We don't want them indoctrinated. Growing up, honestly, I mean, I did not know where most of my teachers landed politically. And that's how it should be. You're there to teach me a subject, and that's it. Help me learn.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Help me learn how to learn rather than just shoving something down my throat. That's what we want for our kids. We don't want them indoctrinated. But that's what's happening. It is 100% what's happening. And for a lot of people, it's not as easy to just get your kids out of school because. No, it's expensive. Well, it's basically daycare.
Starting point is 01:07:19 Right. Well, yeah, there is that, but it's also expensive. All of these things are connected to each other. When women enter the workforce, at first it was you can work if you want to, which is true and correct, equal opportunity. But then all of a sudden the workforce doubles, and now some guy goes to apply for a job, and the boss says, look, this guy over here, he's got a wife who's working. He doesn't need as much money. Right. I'm not going to pay you what you're asking for. And the guy says, okay, this guy over here, he's got a wife who's working. He doesn't need as much money. I'm not going to pay you what you're asking for. And the guy says, okay, I'll go down.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Now all of a sudden the guy comes home and says, honey, I got the job. Bad news. You need to start working because we're not going to have enough money. Now she's working. Who's raising the kids? They've got to go to daycare. Fortunately, public schools, they can drop their kids off and say someone else will take care of it. The more workers, the more you're able to pay them less because there's more competition for that market. And this is why there's individuals like David Rockefeller that
Starting point is 01:08:08 were huge proponents of this larger movement when it came to allowing women to work because he knew that it would allow him and his factories and his businesses to earn a lot more money. And I think that's another aspect to really understand here, especially with his kind of formation of the education system that we're under right now. What we need is pod schooling. You know, I hear it. We were talking with one of our guests. It was not that easy. But women can and should be at work
Starting point is 01:08:34 if they want to be. I think equal opportunity is fantastic. And then your kids, if you need someone to watch them, you shouldn't put them in an institutionalized learning facility where you don't know the teachers. You should get someone you know and trust, have them come together for your community, and teach this one person can do it all. I just want to make this point. There's a great quote from Chesterton.
Starting point is 01:08:52 He said that feminism is the muddled idea that women are free when they serve their employers and slaves when they serve their husbands. And I wanted to say it is correct that women should be allowed to do whatever they want. But I think that the cultural imperative right now is that women should want to be cogs in the machine like chesterton talks about they're told that they should want to serve an employer not be a slave to their children and you can listen to the narrative that moms nowadays have about their kids are like i can't stand being around my kids i can't imagine how you homeschool i'm so glad when they leave for the day and it's like why did you have children? What was your thinking? You obviously aren't in the right mindset to be like, okay, I want to raise kids.
Starting point is 01:09:29 Here's what I'm going to do. It's really important to bring them up correctly. They just hand them off to the nearest person, which tends to be the state. It's a huge problem. I hate the mindset and I hate that the culture has made it so that women are incentivized to leave their families and go back to work. We don't see children as a gift anymore either. Honestly, one of my favorite things is being a father. I really see it's a great responsibility to raise up
Starting point is 01:09:51 a human being to take over into society. But to me, I think that we have to see children as a gift. That's what they are. That is the next generation. That's who's going to take over the country. He's going to take over the world. It's such a huge responsibility, but a huge privilege to get to raise somebody and teach them and guide them in life. I got an idea
Starting point is 01:10:09 for a form of government where the law is applied to you as you wish it to be applied to others. That's it. Simple. There you go. So if you're someone who's like, I think violence is wrong,
Starting point is 01:10:20 then if someone commits violence against you, then you, that person, will be criminally charged. If you commit violence against, that person, will be criminally charged. If you commit violence against someone else, you will be criminally charged. If someone else, say like an Antifa person, says, well, I believe it's justified, then someone comes and fights you, there's no law to be applied because you don't find a problem with it.
Starting point is 01:10:38 Right? I mean, I'm half kidding, but you get the idea. Right. Yeah, it's interesting. Go ahead. Oh, no, I just wanted to piggyback on something you said because you know you're a father you have children i don't but one thing that i have always found very sad about this culture is just the way having children is viewed it's strange because people will point out that having kids is hard work and then they'll say therefore it's not
Starting point is 01:10:57 worth it but we don't really do that with anything else i mean we're starting to in some areas but imagine like well i don't want to become rich because being rich is hard work only suckers do hard work but that's basically the attitude that our society has cultivated when it comes to children it's like well it's it's hard work so screw that why do it but it's that is actually that does carry over into everything i think it started to so i've seen it so as a small business owner i've had so many people go whoa man you're really lucky what do you mean really lucky yeah sacrificerificed years of my life. Do you know how many times I miss with my kids?
Starting point is 01:11:30 Or even with my parents. How much time I've missed with my family in order to be able to... And luckily, we do a lot of it together as a family, as far as building out our studio and everything else. But there are some things, you're just going to spend time away from your family in order to do it.
Starting point is 01:11:41 So it's not just this, oh, you just get it. But people aren't willing to do the hard work. Same thing with kids, though. They're seen as a sacrifice. Oh, I'm going to have to give up. What are you talking about? This is such a gift that you get to have influence in somebody else's life, and you get to guide them in life.
Starting point is 01:11:56 It's such a gift. And think about once they're nine years old, and they can start washing the dishes. That's right. I remember the first time that my oldest son cut the grass. I took a picture. I sent it to my dad. I was like, oh, this is what it was all about. He's like. That's right. I remember the first time that my oldest son cut the grass. I took a picture I sent to my dad. I was like, oh, this is what
Starting point is 01:12:07 it was all about. He's like, you made it, son. Whenever I see someone work really hard at something, I admire it. And so,
Starting point is 01:12:15 as someone without kids, when I see someone with kids who's working hard to raise them, what it says to me is, if they're willing to put that kind of effort in,
Starting point is 01:12:22 it must really be worth it. It is. But for whatever reason, we don't look at things that way anymore. We see someone putting hard work in and we go, oh, they're a sucker. They're putting hard work in instead of saying, well, maybe they're putting hard work in because there's a significant reward here. There's something bigger than that. They're missing out.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Another huge problem with the millennial generation and younger is the entitlement. Sure. No, no, no hard work. I hear it all the time. If only I had X, then I could do it. If only I had money, and I'm just like, wow. As an employer, I can tell you that that's true. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:51 You know what I mean? And I value somebody that's willing to do the hard work. I tell my boys all the time, I said, listen, in the future, when you're in the working class, if you will show up on time, just simply do your job and have a good attitude, you'll be a superstar. That's it. Don't ask for anything extra. Don't do it. If you just simply do those things, you'll be a superstar because right now people don't want to work.
Starting point is 01:13:15 And they're being incentivized by the government, whether it's state or federal, to stay at home. It's a huge problem. That's a decline to society. They're being told that they're entitled to things. The fascinating thing to me is Bernie Sanders, health care is a huge problem. That's a decline to society. They're being told that they're entitled to things. The fascinating thing to me is Bernie Sanders, healthcare is a human right. It's like healthcare is labor from another person. You have no human right to someone else's labor. That's called slavery.
Starting point is 01:13:34 Right. And I hate hearing this idea of socialized healthcare. So being a disabled veteran, I have socialized healthcare. It's called the VA. It sucks. Most of us actually opt out and pay for private health care because it's so bad. So this idea that socialized health care, it sounds great. Socialism sounds great.
Starting point is 01:13:50 Well, in theory, but in practice, it's horrible. It doesn't talk about the laziness of human beings. This is the issue of Bernie Sanders. What he has called for has not been done anywhere as far as I understand, abolishing private insurance and only allowing government medical care, which is nuts. In most other countries, they have government basic health care, and then you can buy private as well on top, which is you get your private if you want it, or you can have the public if you can't afford it. For some reason, in the U.S., they're like ban private health care. And so they will do this sleight of hand where when they refer to universal health care, they'll usually use that phrase interchangeably with single payer.
Starting point is 01:14:29 And then they'll say, oh, all over Europe they have universal health care. But they don't have a single payer system all through Europe. Like true single payer systems are actually relatively rare. Most of the countries that we really look up to or the left looks up to and wants to emulate have a sort of a public private hybrid system or a system where it's private insurance but it's mandated sandra's proposal for universal health care is like by the lowest possible estimates and these are almost according to people who came up with these numbers too low to be realistic they're being generous right but it would cost 32 trillion over 10 years which is about like 75% of our current level of federal spending. It's just, it's not economically feasible.
Starting point is 01:15:08 And I say this because when I've pointed this out, but when I've pointed this out, people have said, well, if that's true, how do they have single payer and all these other countries? They don't. They do not have single payer all through the year. I'm sorry. It's just not true. But AOC said just print the money. Oh, I forgot.
Starting point is 01:15:20 That doesn't need to problem. So kids, this is what's so funny is now Bernie Sanders is not the radical in his party. Yeah. That's where they're at now. That's what's crazy. But let's go back to the family unit. We don't advocate for the family unit anymore. No.
Starting point is 01:15:33 We don't hear politicians advocate for the family unit anymore. We've got to get back to that. I really believe that as a legislator, there's three things you have to protect. You have to fight to protect the family unit, personal property, and the religious institutions. Those things are pillars in our society. It makes a well-functioning society. And I know that not everybody is religious, but the reality is that our founding fathers, while all of them were not Christians, they believed applying biblical principles to a society made a more well-functioning society. Well, this is an interesting thing that we talk about every so often, that Bill Maher is my favorite example.
Starting point is 01:16:03 His moral foundations are all christian but he is one of these staunchest atheists you'll ever meet sure he he made the religious religious documentary he says he doesn't believe in all the fairy tales but the things that he espouses free speech you know uh innocent until proven guilty are are based in the in the christian moral framework absolutely you have people in this country who grew up raised by Christians, but they say, I don't believe these things. You know what? Let me give a shout out to one of my favorite songs of all time,
Starting point is 01:16:35 and it's Judith by A Perfect Circle. And just recently, I haven't heard it in like a decade. You know the song? Mm-mm. So A Perfect Circle is absolutely fantastic. I'm a big fan. And this song is just one of the most well-written songs and you read the lyrics and they're incredible the story is about the lead singer his mother had a stroke but she never stopped uh uh praising you know the lord and being religious and it's him saying like i never want to be like you
Starting point is 01:17:02 you've never stopped to question why he did this to you and you have faith in him. And it sounds like, with all due respect, he genuinely doesn't understand faith or religion. Right. And it's a fascinating story because either you have this man who a lot of atheists would probably look at and be like, he's so right. His mom's so ignorant. Or you have a story about a woman who, after all the hardships, still has faith in her religion. And my view of it is it's such a weird thing to be like he did this to you instead of thinking it was a circumstance of the existence that was created and you're praying for some kind of you know
Starting point is 01:17:36 salvation or whatever it's just my point here is i think what ends up happening you have people who have these moral values rooted in christianity They have kids who don't fully grasp or understand it, which in my opinion is the fault of the previous generation. Yeah, absolutely. But they retain some of the basic values they learned from their family like supporting free speech and innocent until proven guilty. Right. Now, again, I want to stress I am not religious. But if you look up the history of the Fifth Amendment, this is literally rooted in the Bible, and you can trace it all the way back. I was fascinated by learning this history.
Starting point is 01:18:08 It was codified because of this idea. Benjamin Franklin said, it is better that 100 guilty persons escape than one innocent person suffer. And that was his take on Blackstone's formulation. It is better that 10 guilty persons escape than one innocent person suffer. There was a very basic logic behind it. If an individual does not believe that they will be treated fairly within a system, then their only incentive
Starting point is 01:18:31 is to work against the system. That if you are wrongly accused, the state will seek to punish you and never seek to protect your innocence. Why should you bother playing fairly with that system? Blackstone was quite brilliant, but that idea was rooted in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. If there is but one righteous person,
Starting point is 01:18:47 I will not destroy this town. That came from the Bible, whether you like the Bible or not. That value, if you believe in the innocent until proven guilty, that's where it comes from. You take a look at the modern left cult, and they don't have any of these moral values. They believe there is no truth but power.
Starting point is 01:19:03 They believe in blank slate. They believe the majority should have the authority and things like that. And that's what a lack of a moral framework looks like. I'm not sitting here to say people should be Christian. I'm not saying people should believe in God or that God is real. I'm just
Starting point is 01:19:17 saying understand the root of the basic moral foundations and the laws of this country and the Constitution. So I studied world religion and one of the things that I found fascinating, and it's why I have faith in Jesus as a Christian, is you study world religion, really religion comes down to, and this is probably not normally what we talk about, but religion comes down to human beings' attempt to earn favor with the divine. The separation of all that was the teachings of Jesus.
Starting point is 01:19:43 Jesus was the first person really to advocate for the rights of women, the rights of children. He talked against the actual – the normal societal framework that they were in right then. It's actually why he was assassinated. It was killed because he spoke against the religious leaders and what they had. He said he was God. I got to shout something out too. Seamus informed me that Jesus said,
Starting point is 01:20:07 if you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Do you know what passage that's from and what it's about? I could pull this up. Yeah. I decided to look it up and do you want to know what it is?
Starting point is 01:20:17 What is it? So I could be wrong about this. So, you know, you'll have to fact check me on this one. But he was talking with his followers about how the government sought to kill him. Right. And he said, what is written about how the government sought to kill him. Indeed.
Starting point is 01:20:25 And he said, what is written about me shall come to pass. Right. Those who has a purse should take it. If you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. The assessment I read said he was telling his followers to get armed because the government was going to try to kill him. Intriguing. And I laughed when I read that. So I try to be very, very careful about like especially public interpretations of theology because I'm not like formally theologically lettered.
Starting point is 01:20:50 And a lot of people bring up, well, you know, he also says he who lives by the sword dies by the sword. Point is in the Christian tradition, it has not historically been pacifistic in the sense that you could never defend yourself if someone's trying to harm you. I mean, this is a modern invention. You know, I always love talking about the memes I see on Facebook and one of them was it was like some atheist lefty said Jesus said those who live by the sword die by the sword.
Starting point is 01:21:16 You know, conservatives should give up their guns. And I was like telling someone that if you engage in combat with a gun, you could result in your death. It's not telling you not to have one. It's warning you that there are dangers that come with exercising this. But more importantly, when
Starting point is 01:21:31 I then tell them, like, look, again, I'm not religious, but he literally said to buy a sword, and it was in reference to it was written that he would be killed. And so he was like, you should have swords. And then someone said, I have two. And he says, that is exactly enough. I'm like, two? That's more than one great that's a great start i want to make this two go ahead no no you go well i just wanted to make this point that it's even external to like simply
Starting point is 01:21:52 being christian or believing in scripture and i'm sure this is something you've recognized as you study different world religions and i am not a pluralist i am not i don't believe all religions are equally true or anything along those lines but But in every functioning, stable societal system, you have something approximating the Ten Commandments, right? And the scriptures also say that the Ten Commandments are written on the heart of every man. This isn't just something people need to hear from divine revelation. So it's not simply that they reject Christianity. They reject any and all semblance of the moral law or the natural law.
Starting point is 01:22:25 What they reject is personal accountability. Of any kind. There's no idea of personal guilt or I could have done something wrong. And so when you look at what's required for a stable society to function, obviously not murdering, not bearing false witness, not committing adultery, because when you commit adultery, who knows who's responsible for whose children? I mean these things are completely and entirely instrumental to having any kind of a stable system. Yeah, it's kind of interesting.
Starting point is 01:22:52 I've had people that have told me you shouldn't run for office because you're an ordained minister. And I'm like, what are you talking about? They're like, well, it's a separation of church and state. That's ridiculous. That's not what that's talking about. That's to actually protect people from the government, not to protect the government from people. Our founding fathers never did that with anything. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:08 Second Amendment is a perfect example of that. I mean, that exists to protect us from tyranny of government. That's what it exists for. And part of why I bring up the Ten Commandments is because so often when Christians are accused of being theocratic or someone says you're trying to force your religion onto people, it not because a christian politician is saying we need to force people to go to church on sunday it's not because catholics such as myself are saying oh we need to force people to do these kinds of penances um it's because there is some element of the natural law of the ten commandments that our society is left behind and we're simply pointing out that if you want a functioning system people have to follow those rules it's beneficial to have somebody who is in governance that has a moral framework
Starting point is 01:23:49 what we're seeing in our society is people don't have a moral framework one thing i've said a while back is that it feels like there's a lot of ways people describe the two factions in politics or the culture war i've described it as christ moral framework versus no moral framework. And a lot of people, there are a lot of people who criticize me and say they don't like that, and they're atheists, and they're like, I'm an atheist, I'm a liberal, I've never believed this stuff. And then I just try and talk to them, like, where do you, do you believe in the Fifth Amendment, the right that you are innocent until proven guilty? Do you know the history of this and where it comes from?
Starting point is 01:24:20 Right. Again, my point is, by all means, you don't have to believe in God and the Bible. But the morals that this country had for a long time were built upon these things. And so when that last line is lost, you get a generation of people who say, what does it matter? I mean, our founding fathers said that our Constitution works for a moral society. Yeah, and then again, what Constitution doesn't, right? Like what system works in an immoral society? One argument I remember hearing a lot, and this is even something Christopher Hitchens said,
Starting point is 01:24:50 was Christians don't have a monopoly on morality. And Hitchens' line was like, you expect me to believe that they got all the way to Mount Sinai and just then learned that it was wrong to kill and rape and steal. I'm sorry, you know, when the Ten Commandments came down and that bearing false witness was wrong. But the point is, no, we're not arguing that. But what's ironic is they will point out these basic moral norms that they say everyone's familiar with,
Starting point is 01:25:15 external to Christianity. But then whenever any Christian talks about enforcing those norms, they go, well, that's Christian theocracy. You're trying to force your religion onto me. Hold on. I thought these were things we all agreed on. Right. Well, that's the funny thing now. When you look on. I thought these were things we all agreed on. Right. Well, that's the funny thing now. When you look at people who don't believe in free speech.
Starting point is 01:25:28 Yeah. Right. This is why I start to see they don't believe in innocent until proven guilty. They believe it is acceptable to bear false witness. They believe that people should not have a right to speak. And I'm like, it's really, really fascinating. It's like there's a new religion. Right.
Starting point is 01:25:40 It was Peter Boghossian, James Lindsay, and Helen Pluckrose who did the Sokol Squared hoax. I went and I interviewed them. James Lindsay we've had on the show a couple times. Peter Boghossian talked about intersectionality as a new non-theistic religion, which is effectively wokeness. Right. And we had a really interesting discussion. Privilege is your original sin. There's a lot of facsimiles where they've tried to replace these things.
Starting point is 01:26:04 Perhaps people have something within them where they long for purpose. I think that's true. Yeah, dude. And when they lost faith or religion – and I don't care what religion it is. There are people of all different religions. Sure. But when people don't have one, they find one. Right.
Starting point is 01:26:18 And they found wokeness. And that's why they're dogmatic in their approach. That's how they handle it. And we can't find our purpose in our religion and politics. That's what we're seeing too. I think a lot of the radicals treat their politics like a faith system.
Starting point is 01:26:34 And that's why it's become so toxic. I disagree with you guys. If you don't think Dr. Fauci and George Floyd aren't prophets of our modern day, you guys are blasphemous sicko of the wokeism and corporatism that we're all living under right now. I have to mention it.
Starting point is 01:26:50 When that mural of George Floyd was struck by lightning and exploded. That one freaked me out. I'm always very careful to speak on behalf of God. Sometimes God speaks for himself. I gotta say that was something else.
Starting point is 01:27:09 It was like this whole wall was painted and lightning struck just the part. It's George Floyd with the crown on. Fascinating. I mean, look, that is one of the tenets of the state religion that has filled the void that has been left by more traditional Christian thought. It's literally corporations and powerful ruling elites creating the perfect consumer, the perfect individual to be a slave of their current system that, of course, they're building. And if you could literally build a person that you could suck the life out of, suck the wealth out of, suck the potential out of, it is the modern man. Well, I think that's the value. To me, that's the value of faith. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:27:43 So I think that we're losing that society, so we don't have a moral framework. But the value of faith is you have accountability to something higher than yourself. That accountability can't be the government. It can't be that you believe that the government's here to save you. We've seen time and time again that that's not the case. No, no, no. It's Pfizer. Pfizer's going to save us. They know
Starting point is 01:27:59 what's best for us, and they could do no wrong, and we should always listen to him and and uh and lord uh bill gates and i want to make one more point matt walsh has made headlines with his fantastic documentary what is a woman and he's highlighting the absurdity of the fact that we share a society with people uh who can't give us an accurate definition of what a woman is and who we don't agree on what a woman is but But there's a problem that goes even deeper, which is that for decades we have lived in a society with people who we don't have the same definition of what man is with, right?
Starting point is 01:28:33 So are human beings made in God's image and likeness or are we just these self-replicating coils of DNA? By man you mean human. Yes, yes. Are we just these sort of genetic automatons and just consciousness is the wet stuff in your head this meat substance giving rise to information processing or do we have intrinsic value no i think that's a much more substantial distinction and it's totally been it's totally been lost and i think the issue here we talked about this um you're projecting
Starting point is 01:29:03 yes how am i projecting is you're projecting when someone tells you they don't have a soul why would you assume they're wrong they don't because i believe all humans have a solid well right you're projecting because you do and you believe it certainly someone else must but i was talking to somebody who was an atheist and they told me they don't believe in the soul they don't believe in the spirit they don't believe in god or religion and i said so do you think you're like, then what are you? Wet robot. And I'm like, I believe you.
Starting point is 01:29:28 I personally feel a soul within me. I have this experience. I have this inner monologue. Some people don't have that. Did you know that? Yeah. Well, that's sad to me because, I mean, for me, I just say, look, I see the value in recognizing a creator and that we all have origin in that creator and we all have a soul.
Starting point is 01:29:48 So I see value in that. I think that society would see a value in that. But I mean, you can't make people to believe. Yeah, well, and the point I would make is, yes, you are right. There are many people who say they don't have a soul, who say they don't have free will. I don't believe that makes it so.
Starting point is 01:30:00 I think by definition, if a person does have a soul and they do have free will, then that would allow for the possibility of them to deny that they have a soul and free will. But what if they don't have free will? I believe that they do.
Starting point is 01:30:10 And I understand that this is an argument. That's you projecting a belief onto another person. It's a belief about mankind, but it's also properly basic. Everyone operates as if they have free will.
Starting point is 01:30:18 Some deny its existence, but no one acts as if they don't believe free will exists. But him projecting his belief doesn't mean that he's wrong. Yeah. No, I know. It just means that somebody else could be wrong. I didn't say you're wrong. I'm saying. But him projecting his belief doesn't mean that he's wrong. No, I know.
Starting point is 01:30:25 It just means that somebody else could be wrong. I didn't say you're wrong. I'm saying that you are projecting your belief onto other people. My point was simply the question of what if they're right? What if they're right? Yeah. I believe that you have to be humble enough to realize I could be wrong. No, for sure.
Starting point is 01:30:38 But I think if I'm wrong, then I'm wrong about the fact that I have free will. If they're right, then we're all genetic automatons. There's not some special exception for me because of what I believe. No, no. If someone is so if within yourself, you feel your existence and you feel your presence in your soul, someone else could not have one. It doesn't mean you don't. You could have a soul and they might not.
Starting point is 01:31:00 Some people might be NPCs. But we would have to look at the explanation for that. Right. So their worldview is... Not enough souls in existence for every human body? Maybe. We ran out. There's too many populations.
Starting point is 01:31:10 Someone on this show mentioned there was a philosopher or writer who said that there were not enough souls for the entirety of the bodies that are being created. Well, then you're denying a creator, in my opinion. In my opinion, you'd be denying a creator. If a creator can create souls, then he can create an infinite amount or the right amount for the number of people that exist. But what if the creator
Starting point is 01:31:29 just simply chose not to? What if the creator said there's one billion, we're done? So as I read scripture, that would not be congruent with the creator describing scripture.
Starting point is 01:31:39 Let's go to Super Chat. Wait, you guys are playing this video game seriously? That was quite the spiral. Sorry. I think my point is just that I think it takes a lot more intellectual work and many more assumptions to make the argument that like some humans don't have a soul and some do. I really do believe that the most straightforward explanation is we all do or we all don't. It has to be universalized.
Starting point is 01:32:01 All right. Let's read the Superchats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to the channel, and share the show with your friends if you do like it.
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Starting point is 01:32:17 So, sure. We're able to keep working. So, again, smash that like button and we will now read your super chats. All right. Wootdo for you says says no chair equals despair. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:27 Some people were saying that we should have started the stream empty. Mike Scott says, Tim, saw you get angry in your vid today. I've been campaigning for Congress in Maryland, running as Republican in a solid D. Most D's aren't part of the cult and want better. Just remember to keep striving for better. You do good work, bro. I'm going to add over a lot of things today. That, you know, we get this threat.
Starting point is 01:32:51 Jeremy Hambly gets this threat. And then these protesters show up at Kavanaugh's and they won't. There's no justice. There's no enforcement of law in this country anymore. Yeah, you have to have enforcement. There has to be law and order. There are a bunch of whistleblowers claiming the FBI has been purging conservative staff members. So clearly what's happening is that this country is factionalizing and gearing up for a conflict.
Starting point is 01:33:13 I hope that's not true. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, what we all want to know, pierogies or potatoes? Pierogies, of course. Who will win? Duh. Potatoes are great. I would say pierogies, but they're made with wheat, aren't they? Depends.
Starting point is 01:33:26 They're really good, though. But aren't they just potato anyway? They're better potatoes. You know what is good? Kalachkis. Yeah, they're pretty good. Ooh, kalachkis are good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:35 Yeah, I would agree with you. But a pierogi is just like a dumpling with potato in it. Yeah. So I guess... You still got potatoes. What you're saying is like a plain potato versus like a fancy one. Yeah. Absolutely. I don't like fancy. That's the difference perfectly represented
Starting point is 01:33:50 here at this table. I don't like fancy. I don't need all the glitz and glam. I have internal substance. Simple potato. You're just a dirty potato. I'm not denying that either. Both things can be true. That's fair, yeah. Valiant Thor says everything Thomas Sowell said would continue to happen is happening.
Starting point is 01:34:09 Much love to you all. And so glad no one was harmed. You handled it with class and resilience, as we will continue to do. Jeff Pearson says, Red flag laws equals legalized swatting. That's right. If they pass red flag laws, then it's going to be swatting across the board. Girlfriends and
Starting point is 01:34:27 boyfriends are going to be snitching on each other because they're mad. They already do. It'll be anonymous tips on every streamer. Neighbors not liking the other neighbor. Bad Thanksgiving dinner, next thing you know. Exactly. It's a problem.
Starting point is 01:34:44 Johnny Boy291 says, Tim, I've been watching your videos since your reports during Occupy Wall Street. After yesterday's situation and your pushback against Daryl Davis, among other recent events, I've finally decided to sign up for a membership on your website. Oh, that's fantastic. Thank you very much. There's another one here.
Starting point is 01:34:59 It says one out of two. There we go. Johnnyboy says, Keep up the good fight, brother, and keep speaking out. We need more people like you all out there. Stay safe, guys. So are you familiar with Daryl Davis? No. He's the famous black jazz musician
Starting point is 01:35:12 who de-radicalized Klan members simply by befriending them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do. Yep. I mean, I didn't know. I couldn't put a name to the face, but yes. We had him on the show and I think what ended up happening was a lot of people assumed that because he de-radicalized Klan members, he was anti-identitarian. Right?
Starting point is 01:35:27 So his thing was all, you know, we should just be humans together. Turns out he's actually very much identitarian. He wants reparations. He believes in white privilege and all that kind of stuff. So a lot of people were disappointed because it seemed like there was going to be this prominent speaker who was like, we should all be people and be friends and race shouldn't be a factor in this. And then it turns out he actually is still very racist. Should have Morgan Freeman on.
Starting point is 01:35:51 Yeah. I mean, that's basically what he was saying, right? Right. We should just be people? Yep. All right. Samuel Pyle says the House passed a federal red flag law today. Was that today or was it yesterday?
Starting point is 01:36:03 I think it was yesterday. Yesterday, no? Yeah. Did they do it today? We talked about it today. Was that today or was it yesterday? I think it was yesterday. Yeah. Did they do it today? We talked about it today. I don't be surprised. Jonathan Howe says, January 6th hearing begins tonight.
Starting point is 01:36:10 Oh, did it? How much you want to bet they paint us all as terrorists and use this to demonize those who won't submit to their authority? Well, that's all it is. I mean, the left is using that to demonize those who dissent.
Starting point is 01:36:23 That's all. It's political dissent. Mm-hmm. All right. Kayla Howlett says, I love potatoes using that to demonize those who dissent. That's all. It's political dissent. All right. Kayla Howlett says, I love potatoes and I love Seamus. Potato man good apparently. Seamus won Luke zero. I don't know about that. That's so embarrassing.
Starting point is 01:36:38 All right. Let's find some good. Brian says, swap that like button. And so I actually pinned another. I saw that, and then I pinned Swat the like button. I thought that was funny. Dodge Gaskill says,
Starting point is 01:36:52 Tim Pool and Co., all your phones are probably tapped. Yeah. They were tapped years ago. I was going to say, yeah. I was telling people,
Starting point is 01:36:59 like, 15 years ago, I was like, your phones are tapped. Everyone's like, you're crazy, you're insane. The government would never do that.
Starting point is 01:37:05 I mean, Patriot Act. After Occupy Wall Street, I had like, your phones are tapped. Everyone's like, you're crazy. You're insane. The government would never do that. I mean, Patriot Act. After Occupy Wall Street, I had an Android and an iPhone. And I remember one day they both turned on at the same time. Or like very close at the same time. Like one turned on, the other turned on. And then I was like, what? There's software.
Starting point is 01:37:20 I turned them off and they turned right back on. They are spying devices. They're not cell phones. They're literally here just to keep track of everything. No, they're software that governments buy that they can turn your phone on
Starting point is 01:37:28 and listen at any time. Easily done. Martin Edgar says, Tim, the Ryan Kelly thing goes deeper. Five other GOP candidates were disqualified, including Craig,
Starting point is 01:37:36 who was the front runner before his disqualification. Keep up the great work, Tim and crew. Wow. That's crazy. All right. Bad Karma says, Tim and crew. Wow. That's crazy. All right. Bad Karma says,
Starting point is 01:37:47 Events from yesterday. If a justice is removed from the Supreme Court, the sitting president gets to appoint a replacement, correct? That's right. Yep. Crazy, man. That was that guy's tweet. Ghost Crusader says,
Starting point is 01:38:00 Around the 60-minute mark, Tim says, Right. Like the boss from Office Space. All right. That's who we're channeling here. That's right mark. Tim says, right. Like the boss from Office Space. Well, alright. That's who we're channeling here. That's right. Mikal says, greetings from Sweden. Just want to say that I love
Starting point is 01:38:12 all of you guys. Want to shout at my newborn daughter Iris that came to the world a few days ago. Congratulations. Nice. Congrats. What's that burger place in Sweden? M Burger? I don't know. All I know is they have these like halloumi cheeseburgers. Like it's not meat.
Starting point is 01:38:27 It's like fried cheese on a burger. It's so good. Sounds good. Yeah, I love that place. Sweden was fun, man. Sweden rules. But it was like kind of creepy because we were getting
Starting point is 01:38:35 spot on and stuff. Yeah. Ian Hall says, Luke has his head out of his butt unlike 95% of Democrats. I wouldn't go that far. It's a compliment to say your head is not
Starting point is 01:38:50 in your butt? That's such a compliment. There's so many people with their heads up their butts that it's a rare thing these days. Luke, I just want to point out, that's the nicest thing anyone's willing to say about you. She said she loved me and potatoes, but Luke, I guess his head's not in his butt. Bob Kitt says, glad to see a guest on who's almost as cool as an Army Forward observer.
Starting point is 01:39:09 Tommy, would you support legislation to allow everyone to conceal carry a GAU-8? What is that? It's just a really big gun. No. So, yeah, I don't. Anything that impedes upon the Second Amendment, I'm not good for that. But everything does. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:27 Honestly, I do. I don't think that you should even have to have a permit to carry. So repeal the NFA? Yeah, I'm fine with that. Yeah? Yeah, 100%. I just think a lot of this stuff, I mean, it's very clear. Now what about owning nuclear weapons?
Starting point is 01:39:40 I mean, look, the reality is, I mean, you can't get a hold of one. So many people – somebody asked me that at a debate one time. Well, actually not a debate. I was at a Southlake GOP committee meeting. Somebody goes, what about rocket launchers? I'm like, do you have enough money for a rocket? I don't have enough money for a rocket launcher. So I don't think that that should be the restriction is whether or not we're allowed to own one.
Starting point is 01:39:59 I mean, we can't afford one. So that's just not the reality. You can't have access to it. And if you are rich enough, you can still get one. Sure. Absolutely. You can. I mean, I just think that no, I just think permanent is stupid. I think that our founding fathers, the second amendment was there for a reason. The reason was to prevent tyranny, not to hunt. I don't care what Joe Biden says about Kevlar with deer. I think it's the dumbest thing in the world. He obviously knows nothing about ballistics, but that's not what it's for. It's not even
Starting point is 01:40:23 really to defend yourself. It was to protect us against tyranny, which is astounding if you think about it. A group of guys who just got finished overthrowing a government to establish their own country, they thought it best that the Second Amendment, that our citizens should be able to overthrow us.
Starting point is 01:40:40 But it was more than that. It was enemies foreign and domestic. Right. So there was concern about foreign invasion. Sure. Yeah, of course. As well as an internal conflict. And they said the people. This is what I love when I see all these memes that are like well-regulated militia.
Starting point is 01:40:52 And I'm like, what part of the people? Right. The right of the people. We the people. It says the right of the people to keep in bare arms. Like it doesn't say the right of the well-regulated militia. Nope. But they're willfully ignorant.
Starting point is 01:41:04 So what can you say? Also, no, you make the perfect point. No one's willing to look at just the most basic elements of the historical context here. They had just finished fighting a war against their government and establishing a dependence. People are like, yeah, I think they wanted guns to hunt. Yeah. It's like, what? I mean, of course you had to have guns to hunt.
Starting point is 01:41:20 They didn't have Walmart. You weren't going to get sticks at Walmart. Nice thing. They'd give their kids guns. Right. When they would go out to hunt, they'd hand their 12-year-old son a musket. hunt. They didn't have Walmart. You weren't going to get sticks at Walmart. Nice thing. They'd give their kids guns. Right. When they would go out to hunt, they'd hand their 12-year-old son a musket. Yep. You can't do that.
Starting point is 01:41:30 Well, actually, you can in some states. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's funny when I hear people say, like, should kids be allowed to have guns? And I'm like, you can. Like, in the presence of the parent. And I think... You mean parental rights actually exist? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:42 Huh. It's crazy, isn't it? Not every state, though. I mean, look at New Jersey, New York, Maryland. All right, let's read some more. Dracona Force 2 says, here's my second super chat ever. In recognition of my military PCS from Japan back to the States, I'll be honest with everyone. I hate that I'm going back to the States.
Starting point is 01:41:59 Would rather be deployed to the desert. Wow. That's sad. Yeah, man. Whenever I would travel the world for these news stories i would always be really happy to be back in the united states absolutely i couldn't wait to come back every time i mean and i think honestly comfort then yeah i think i think the majority of people who say america sucks and they you know talk about wanting to the downfall of the nation
Starting point is 01:42:17 i think they need to spend some time abroad go to go to these countries that you think are these like look at venezuela you think venezuela is so great you think are these. Look at Venezuela. You think Venezuela is so great. You think that nation, that form of government is so great. Go visit. Do not just go. It's not fun. Go live there for a while. Stay there for a month. Good luck surviving. I got accused of being a spy when I went to Venezuela
Starting point is 01:42:38 and was forced to flee the country. Do not just go to Sweden and Norway and come back and tell me how great they are. Go to Venezuela. Go to Turkey. Go to Egypt and then come back and tell me how great they are. Go to Venezuela. Go to Turkey. Go to Egypt. And then come back and tell me how great they are. Norway and Sweden are not socialist.
Starting point is 01:42:50 Yeah, they're not even that great. They're capitalist nations with robust social welfare systems. There's a big, big difference. Venezuela nationalizes industry. And we pay for their military. I don't want to hear that. Well, actually,eden is the largest weapons exporter per capita that's true too yeah but so go to go to afghanistan go to see go to
Starting point is 01:43:10 these places there they have extremists in charge go everywhere you know go check out these things and see what it is that's the difference is people who have that experience they look at our freedoms here very differently yes whenever people tell me like sweden is so nice i'm like bro they make weapons like they are the largest weapons exporter per capita of course they're doing well right selling weapon whatever and i can't enter ian hall says that's right bypass the soros bought da's vote for a sheriff that will uphold the law they can press charges and the da can get stuffed well Well, there you go, I guess. All right, let's see. Josh Froman says,
Starting point is 01:43:50 surprised you didn't all have pistols on your hips as you walked around last night. Also, cops lied to you. You have every right to film them under the First Amendment. They are public servants. Well, we had the cameras running. I mean, it's an issue of do we want to ask the police to come
Starting point is 01:44:04 and try and deal with a very sensitive security issue and then be like also we're going to film all of the things you're doing. That's one of the frustrations I have too right now is people treat our police officers like garbage. Nobody cares about it. Nobody cares about them anymore. Nobody thinks about their frame of mind. That's why really honestly the way that you handled it and the way that your entire team handled it yesterday was great. It is tough.
Starting point is 01:44:27 I don't want cops coming in here for no reason. Sure. But considering... You guys were respectful. I mean, and they were respectful. I think that that goes a long way. Well, we need some way to deal with this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:39 So there's private security. There's police. I will say, so what this is referring to, when we had the bomb squad come out, told us not to film sure and uh yeah we have security cameras filming the entire everything right everything on this property is filmed we didn't hold up an expensive three thousand dollar camera rig in their face as they did it because we're not here to just piss off the guys who are trying to help us with a security threat if it was like they showed up unannounced and were there's a conflict between us i'd be like we are filming this sure if it was like they showed up unannounced and were there's a conflict between us i'd be like
Starting point is 01:45:06 we are filming this sure if it's like thank you for coming and helping us we're gonna let you do your job yeah look i'm not i'm i'm i'm not gonna uh yeah i got issues my issues with cops but i'm not an anarchist you know michael malice is much more the anarchist than me i'm more towards i'm not a big person and I'm big on cops or whatever, but, you know, I recognize some of it. I think it's important to film and document everything,
Starting point is 01:45:28 but you could do it respectfully without, you know, being a prick to somebody. Right. And we have security cameras, everything in the house and all that stuff. I'm just trying to make sure
Starting point is 01:45:37 we keep tensions at a minimum, but, you know, I don't know, maybe Luke will just film. Maybe you just do it. What is this? Someone says they got, Michael Cobb says, I was watching the January 6th in the background, and OMG, they're just film. Maybe you just do it. What is this? Someone says they got... Michael Cobb says,
Starting point is 01:45:46 watching the January 6th in the background in OMG, they're wanting war. It's crazy. I never knew the Civil War would be started by Liz Cheney. Yeah, but I mean, I don't even know if that's a joke. The Cheneys have a long history of starting wars. Who thought Liz Cheney wouldn't want to start a war? She's like, the January 6th hearing, I'm going to put together a list of all the things we need to buy from Halliburton. Who thought Liz Cheney wouldn't want to start a one-day American boy?
Starting point is 01:46:10 She's like, the January 6th hearing, I'm going to put together a list of all the things we need to buy from Halliburton, Lockheed Martin, and Baldwin. She was like the insurrectionists have weapons of mass destruction. If there is a 1% chance. We don't want to have to find out tomorrow on the news. Yellow cake. See a mushroom. They have yellow cake. It's actual yellow cake, but whatever. Every time they heard that, I out tomorrow on the yellow cake mushroom they have yellow cake it's actual yellow cake but whatever every time they heard that i was just like please yellow cake one life says i'm here for the coffee brand coffee and to hear more about graphene glad
Starting point is 01:46:35 you are all safe real america on your side yeah jeremy gave us like a thousand dollars last night yeah that's why this one i actually tried to figure out how to do this i don't know nothing about technology i tried to figure out how to do the super chat to put my website up there. He was trying. I was like, I can't figure it out. I don't know. I gave up. So actually, shameless plug.
Starting point is 01:46:50 Go to TommyAltman.com. There you go. Ryan Price says, Tim and crew, really cool seeing your billboard on the Stevenson going into Chicago near the old neighborhood. I have since moved out of there, but people in this country and in Chicago need to be exposed in the real world to better media and content. We got some new ads up
Starting point is 01:47:10 in Times Square. We have a Luke Rutkowski billboard. I'm surprised my nose fit on the billboard. I know. I have my mom. I have all my old high school friends messaging me like, you made it, bro. I'm like, I don't even care about this stuff,
Starting point is 01:47:25 but it is pretty cool. I said to Luke, did your mom, I bet your mom never thought you running around with a Hi8 camera yelling at politicians would result in you being on Times Square. Screaming at them, getting arrested. And then we put up Michael Malice as well because we're big fans and good friends.
Starting point is 01:47:42 And so we got a good quote from him. He says, the corporate press gives you the narrative. TimCast gives you the news. But we had a plural. Some people were questioning the singular plural. It says, the corporate press give you the narrative. TimCast gives you the news. Because the corporate press was plural.
Starting point is 01:47:57 Who cares? It's about getting the message. It's the reality. And if you share them in Chicago, I haven't seen the one in Chicago yet. If you could take some photos and send them to me on Twitter, Twitter, at LukeWeAreChange, The ones in Chicago are just vinyl of me.
Starting point is 01:48:10 Yeah. The billboard one time square has got you on it. Yeah. If people have some photos, at LukeWeAreChange. No, I said it yesterday, and I absolutely mean it, man. I really do appreciate everything you guys do.
Starting point is 01:48:19 I know it's a lot of work, and you guys are doing this for so long. You guys did it at the right time in history, which is great. But this is where the news is. This is the future of the news right here. Long form really is. We had one other ad we put up. We put up a billboard in Times Square for Will of the People, the original song by Tim Kess. So there's a big 40-foot digital billboard for Will of the People, the original song and music
Starting point is 01:48:43 video by Tim Kess. And it shows the orange sky with the statues being pulled down. And we're planning our album release. We have a bunch of songs. Actually, this is really cool news. We've tracked a bunch of demos. We're talking with some producers out of Nashville. And we're hoping to have, I guess you can call it an EP or an album, maybe eight to ten songs released by August. So that will be the Will of the People full album release, I'm really excited
Starting point is 01:49:08 we'll buy a bunch of ads everywhere it'll be fantastic yeah, we've got a bunch of really cool songs, we were just recording earlier Shane from Tales from the Inverted World was doing some vocals because he used to be in a band very exciting stuff happening Wahoo McDaniel says no diesel shortage, Tim, where are you getting this info?
Starting point is 01:49:24 I own an oil field MFG company and have a trucking division. My fuel supplier said no chance of a shortage anytime soon here in West Texas. Can I come skateboard with y'all sometime? Love the show. Oh, I mean, we got to figure out some kind of, you know, the challenge is insurance. That's why we can't really have people coming and skating. We want to try and figure out some kind of event. I will say the diesel shortage, Google it.
Starting point is 01:49:46 I know that sounds a bit, might sound condescending, but I mean it. I was reading a bunch of news and they're all warning about diesel shortages. So I don't know. You mean Brave Search It. Brave Search It, that's right. Yeah, we use the Brave browser for everything.
Starting point is 01:50:01 We used to say another phrase, but that one got compromised. Yeah, DuckDuckGo. Geez. We can DuckDuckGo away away am i right oh yeah got him it's been saving her joke been safe you've been saving that one for like a while it's been years i was actually i wrote that joke hoping they would do something wrong all these years later they did like. Now the time has come. All right. Dad teaches and words to my son says,
Starting point is 01:50:29 judges here in Kansas will take custody from you if you homeschool, even when the judge is breaking the law. Even when you try to do right by your kids, a judge will remove them and nobody in state will do anything. Maybe you shouldn't live in Kansas. In Germany, too, I hear about horror stories of parents being arrested because they try to homeschool their children. So there are some jurisdictions and states that are absolutely, totally draconian. Sure.
Starting point is 01:50:53 All right. Alexander Nelson says, while abolishing the Department of Education is a start, it won't fix its sending to the states. Forty cents of every dollar for education in the state of Illinois goes to pensions. Wait, what did it say? How much? Fort 40 cents of every dollar for education in the state of illinois goes to pensions wait what did it say how much 40 cents of every dollar well it gives you 50 options that's why i really love you know the decentralization of power i think it's why our founding fathers when it gives it gives us 50 options it is the kindest way to govern it gives the citizens 50 options well like with the the public education system in illinois what not a lot of people realize is that the schools of course are funded by the local property taxes so in areas that are wealthier the teachers make more but when the pension system kicks in that's just the state
Starting point is 01:51:35 in general so there can be people who are like working in a wealthy chicago suburb making 110 120 grand a year as a gym teacher and before retirement, they'll give them extra fluff work so their income increases. And then they're living off of Illinois' pension system, which means people who live and work in impoverished parts of the inner city making $40,000 a year have to give a portion of their income to the government, like 20% of all their money to the government, to pay for somebody to live for 20 years at $90K a year on their state-funded pension. It's insane. And the idea that that's fair, that's caring, that's communal. We're on the left and we support these policies because we care about the little guy.
Starting point is 01:52:18 You care about forcing the little guy to pay for the favors you're giving to your friends and the people who made it into the right part of the system. We have a super chat from The Quartering who says, not even the SWAT team could stop the quenching power of coffee brand coffee. Oh, wow. Code TIMCAST will save you on single orders on our six amazing coffee blends, six organic teas,
Starting point is 01:52:38 three heavenly hot cocos if you don't buy the SWATers win. Oh, wow. Compelling. That TIMCAST code gets us nothing. Jeremy has not done any deal with us. No. But I suppose he didatter's win. Oh, wow. Compelling. So that TimCast code gives us nothing. Jeremy has not done any deal with us. No.
Starting point is 01:52:48 But I suppose he did give us like $1,000 yesterday, so. Yeah, thank you, by the way. See, that's the funny thing about like buying ads on the show. It's like big super chats just appear and everyone sees it. All right.
Starting point is 01:53:00 Vatexin83 says, Tim, you need to listen to Wings for Marie from Tool's 10,000 Days album. It's Maynard's realization of why his mother believes like she did the texan 83 says tim you need to listen to wings for marie from tools 10 000 days album it's maynard's realization of why his mother believes like she did despite the bad things that happened to her oh really i will definitely take that out because i gotta tell you man we're driving in the car and then youtube you know recommended judith and so i played it i haven't listened to it like 10 years and just the the vocals, the writing is just brilliant.
Starting point is 01:53:26 So I'll definitely check out this one, Wings for Marie. That's cool. I'll check it out right after the show, actually. Dangna says, when Luke traveled to Epstein Island, what vaccinations did he get? None. None? No. We all know that you were first in line for the
Starting point is 01:53:42 COVID vaccine when you heard Fauci was giving out donuts to anyone who took donuts. How dare you. To anyone who took it. How dare you spread such blasphemy here. What were you drinking before the show? What were you drinking? No, no, no, no, no. You're going to get personal.
Starting point is 01:53:54 Let's get personal right here. What kind of fluorated drink were you drinking before the show? Fluorated drink? Water? I was having a little Budweiser after a hard day at work. That's all you got to say. I rest my case. I rest my case.
Starting point is 01:54:09 Is there fluoride in Budweiser? Yes, there is. Most beers have a large amount of fluoride in them. Luke, you were just chugging tap water earlier. No, I wasn't. How dare you? Speak the truth, you liar, you blasphemous man. I'm giving him a hard time.
Starting point is 01:54:23 I thought you were a man of God. A man of God does not lie to the people. You're right, Luke. That's not true. Speak to the one correct thing. That's hilarious. The only thing anyone just heard was rabble, rabble, rabble. Luke made some points.
Starting point is 01:54:40 You guys didn't need to hear them. Fluoride drinker. He was like, take turns. Luke doesn't brush his teeth because he doesn't want the fluor need to hear them. Yeah, it's not worth it. Fluoride drinker. Sounds like take turns. Luke doesn't brush his teeth because he doesn't want the fluoride in the toothpaste. Oh, my gosh. I have natural toothpaste. Charcoal. All right. Ev Jones says, Matthew 1038, he that taketh not his cross and followeth after me is not
Starting point is 01:54:58 worthy of me. He that findeth his life shall lose it, and he that looseth his life for my sake shall find it pat 210 says christianity wasn't meant for everyone thanks the point only the chosen ones will make it oh man i think that's true all right there was a good super chat about uh jesus and his swords because someone expanded upon what i was talking about i was reading it was like the state was coming to kill him. So it was like, hey, guys, we need weapons. Yeah, this is actually at the Last Supper that he said this.
Starting point is 01:55:29 And the context was that Judas was about to portray him. And he was at the Last Supper with his disciples. And he's like, just so you know, this is coming and you should be prepared. The interesting thing is when they did come and one of his disciples cut off the ear of one of the priest's guard. Right. Peter, yeah. Jesus' first action was to heal him. He healed him.
Starting point is 01:55:50 Yep. Can you imagine what that guard was thinking? Yeah. I'd be like, hey, guys, maybe we've got the wrong guy. Yeah. But that's us, right? You see what just happened? But that's us, right?
Starting point is 01:55:59 Oh, yeah. Because Christ heals us and we go on to keep sinning. Yeah. All right. Here's SSJ says, not only did Jesus tell his disciples to sell their cloak because he was about to be put to death, but when he said, he who lives by the sword will die by it, was
Starting point is 01:56:11 after the Romans caught him in the dead of night and Peter cut off the ear of a soldier. Yeah. So what he was like, was he warning the soldier? I think so. I don't know. What do you think, Seamus? I don't know. I try to be really careful about offering up any biblical interpretation about a passage I haven't specifically studied extensively. And I think...
Starting point is 01:56:32 That's a good rule of thumb there. Because not a lot of people read... People don't realize when you're reading through scripture, you are reading a translation. And if you want the most solid understanding and interpretation of that, you should go to a higher theological source, particularly one that's familiar with the Greek and Latin. Every time I've ever come across a controversial, not every time, but many of the times when I'll come across a more controversial passage in scripture, someone will make an argument to me based on the original languages. And it changes my perspective in a way that I would not have gained if I had just sat there and read the English.
Starting point is 01:57:06 So be really careful. Look at the root words of Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek. It definitely changes. I mean, just the word love alone, there's so many different versions of it. But, I mean, more importantly, and this is what I always tell people, certainly as a Notre Dame minister, you can use Scripture to justify anything. Yeah. The devil quotes Scripture.
Starting point is 01:57:23 That's any faith. Yeah, any faith can use Scripture, their Scripture, their sacred text to justify anything. Yeah. The devil calls scripture. That's any faith. Yeah, any faith can use scripture, their scripture, their sacred text to justify anything. The reality is you got to understand it in context, both in the time that it was written in and in the creator. So, yeah, I definitely think it's a good idea to not just spout off at stuff, and I'm very careful of it. Yeah. Let's do some more. We got Big Sloppy says, Tommy, I donated to your campaign.
Starting point is 01:57:46 Want a yard sign but don't know how to get one. I convinced my mom to watch yesterday's show for the first time because you were a guest.
Starting point is 01:57:51 Was a great first show, Tim. Oh, thanks, man. Yeah, definitely go to TommyAltman.com, donate. If you did, message me on Instagram, Tommy Altman.
Starting point is 01:57:59 I didn't do anything clever. Message me there and I'd love to get you one. Ladies and gentlemen, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button,
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Starting point is 01:58:18 Check it out. You can follow the show at timcastirl on Instagram, where we post clips every single day. You can follow me there at timCast or also on Twitter. Tommy, do you want to shout out anything else? No. Yeah, check us out on Twitter. Check us out on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:58:33 It's Tommy Altman. Facebook, I think, is Tommy4VA. It's TommyAltman.com. Listen, I really appreciate you guys having me, and I appreciate everybody that did donate and give online. That's really nice of you. But I appreciate you guys having me. I appreciate all the hard work you guys are doing. Seriously. We have to engage. We really do have to engage.
Starting point is 01:58:47 I think getting the next generation to engage is critical if we're going to continue to have this experiment of freedom that we have. Thanks for coming. I have a YouTube channel called YouTube.com forward slash WeAreChanged. Something odd's been happening ever since I got on the show this week. YouTube ranks your video 1 to 10. 1's great.
Starting point is 01:59:04 10's bad. All my videos this week have been 10s. I don't know what's going on. Maybe I tripped something in the algorithm, but go check it out. Subscribe, click the notification button, and I think you guys would love the intro that I released today on youtube.com forward slash we are change. And Seamus, you weren't
Starting point is 01:59:20 that unbearable today. You know what? I appreciate that. I was feeling similarly about you until that last comment. I guess that's just the way the cookie crumbles. I see why your videos were tens this week, bud. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:59:32 I run a YouTube channel. Don't you dare. You're so good. I run a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes. You guys are going to love it. Our videos have not all been tens this week,
Starting point is 01:59:39 but today we're actually dealing with a nine, even though it's a really good video that you guys should go check out. I think you'll really enjoy it. We were watching it before the show. Everyone was cracking up. I think you should go check it out.
Starting point is 01:59:49 You should also go to freedomtunes.com. We want to get independent from big tech, so we just launched our own website. We have a membership section where for $5 a month, you're going to get an extra cartoon every week that only members get. You're also going to get behind-the-scenes content. We got a bunch of videos up there already. You'll be supporting independent content, getting extra content. I really hope you all enjoy it. FreedomTunes.com I'm having such flashbacks to
Starting point is 02:00:12 having three younger brothers right now. You two are ridiculous. But it's hilarious. I appreciate it. I'm curious to see if pierogies or potatoes win tomorrow night, Friday night. You guys may follow me on Twitter and Minds.com at Sarah Patchlitz. And yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:28 I think tomorrow for dinner we should just do pierogies and potatoes. And we'll have a bunch of different kinds. Yeah, sounds great. Alright everybody, we will see you all over at TimCast.com. Thanks for hanging out.

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