Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #550 - Jake Paul ROASTS Biden As Market TANKS w/Bill Ottman & Jamie Kilstein

Episode Date: June 14, 2022

Tim, Ian, Luke, and Lydia host Bill Ottman of Minds and comedian and podcaster Jamie Kilstein to discuss Jake Paul's awakened stance on politics, the collapsing markets, the GOP who has joined hands with Democrats on gun control, a possible actually-sentient AI, and Elon Musk's unprecedented new access to Twitter data 'firehose'. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'm just like, wow, if that is not an excellent barometer for where regular people are at, because I'm not saying this to disrespect Jake Paul or anything like that, but he's not a political guy. So when he's sitting there going like everything's bad and it's Biden's fault and if you voted for him, it's your fault too. I'm like, oof. Tell me how you really think. You take a look at the aggregate polling for Biden. It's at what, like 38%?

Just miserably low. And if you are in the crypto markets, my friend, you're feeling it too. So we got, it's actually a lot of news today. I just want to let everybody know, do you want to know how you know you're old? You don't get hurt exercising. So I, you know, we got Jamie Kilstein here

and he was like, how'd you get hurt? Were you like doing a flip or something? And I was like, bro, I was sleeping. Hell yeah. I went to sleep and I I woke up, and I couldn't move. Incapacitated. Incapacitated. So fortunately, though, we got a plethora of people here. So I'm going to just try and make this work. I didn't do my morning show.

I literally could not get out of bed. So I got one of those fancy icy hot things. You stick it in. And then I took one of those fancy over-the-counter pain medications, and I'm in excruciating pain right now. We've got to get an inversion table in here. We have one. I use it every single day,

at least like five times a day to avoid the problems that Tim has because I have the same problem. Oh, so it's working? Yes. The cool thing is I've got the whoop, right? And you look at my heart rate throughout the night,

and my heart rate's really good. It's like 48. And then right around 4 a.m., it jumps to like 100. It's like, call 911. And night And my heart rate's really good It's like 48 And then right around 4 a.m. It jumps to like 100 It's like call 911 And that's when I woke up Like I couldn't move

Actually This happened on Sunday And then it just got It's like It's a little bit better And I think I'll be better tomorrow I've been sleeping without a pillow That's groundbreakingly awesome

Flattening out my back I gotta try it I'll have a pillow And then halfway through the night I'll take it off And throw it on the ground And just flatten it out You gotta discipline yourself To stay on it. I'll have a pillow and then halfway through the night I'll take it off and throw it on the ground and just flatten it out. You got to discipline yourself

to stay on your back though. Yeah. Not roll to the stomach. So we got a bunch of news, man. We're going to talk about it. So we got people hanging out. We got Bill Ottman in the house. What's up, guys?

It's nice to be here. Who are you? I'm Bill. I'm co-founder of Minds. Check me out. Minds.com slash Ottman. You got a thing going on? We got a thing going on.

Oh, boy. Festival.minds.com, ottman you got a thing going on we got a thing going on festival.minds.com people hell yeah beacon theater june 25th new york city i know people aren't happy about new york city we have the deposit down before the pandemic so beacon theater is a cool venue that like that's on my bucket list of places i want to play the allman brother yeah that's why the allman brothers yeah so we got cornell west coleman Hughes, Blair White, Tim, James, Tulsi, James O'Keefe, Tulsi Gabbard, Ben Burgess, Zuby, Seth Dillon, Babylon B. Just added Jamie Kilstein. Hopefully these two guys will come.

I think they're going to. So guys, come out. Promo code FESTIVAL, 50%% off festival.minds.com there's also a free ticket request we know some people are strapped the economy is screwed make a request

if money is an issue we want to get everybody in but be careful because if you're strapped in the other way New York won't let you in which is weird strapped on a other way, New York won't let you in. Which is weird. Oh, I thought you meant like strapped on a different kind of strap. No, that's good. It means you have a gun.

We got Jamie Kilstein. Hey, everybody. Last time, now I listen to the show more. I remember last time when you were like, what do you do? Instead of promoting my shit, I was like, well, a long time ago I was canceled and things took a dark turn. But now I'm ready.

I wrote stuff down. I'm Jamie Kilstein. I'm a stand-up comedian. I'm headlining House of Comedy Plano, Dallas area next week, the 16th, 18th, and 19th. I co-host a podcast or I host a podcast called A Fuck-Up's Guide to the Universe. We've had everyone from John Cleese to Nicole Aniston, the porn star, when I had a breakup and she nurtured me back to health. Also, if you don't like tribalized bullshit, I have a Patreon, patreon.com

slash Jamie Kilstein, and I'm on Twitter at Jamie Kilstein, Instagram at the Jamie Kilstein. Did I do it already? Are you sure you watched the show? Because it's a family-friendly show, James. Are you trying to get canceled? You're already canceled enough. By the way, I was like, don't get canceled this time, and I looked

in front of me, and I'm like, are these bullet casings that say, let's go, Brandon? Cool, I was going to say, cancel the now. By the way, I was like, don't get canceled this time, and I looked in front of me, and I'm like, are these bullet casings that say, let's go, Brandon? They are, yes. Cool, cool, cool. Welcome home. Welcome home.

And hey, guys, my name is Luke Rudowski of wearechanged.org, and I think we're just very, not that far away from 1984 doses to slow the spread. You can do your part by going to thebestpoliticalshirts.com

and spreading this very important message to the Kyles and Karens out there, thebestpoliticalshirts.com. Because you go there, I'm here. Thank you guys so much for having me. This should be a very wonderful, amazing, interesting conversation. Ian, how are you? Yes. Pretty good, Luke, actually.

Thanks for asking, man. I think I've got to do an inversion table myself. Normally what I do is I get up, I have some coffee, I look on the Internet. I do tech. I'm a social media entrepreneur, fallmediancrossland.net. I've been doing internet video blogs since the beginning, 2006, making it popular. Communicating across the void,

because why not? It's a form of time travel. And I am also here. You cannot avoid me. If you're watching a show, I will be pushing buttons in the corner, and I was messing with this camera earlier, so I could put it over on tim and the papa's on but he decided to sit up in the chair i wasn't really gonna sit in the pop it would have worked i didn't move it over i was like slumped over just like gently done steven hawking really exciting but i am also here i'm really excited for the show love jamie and bill before we get started head over to timcast.com

become members to help support our important work as a member you get access to exclusive segments from this show Monday through Thursday at 11pm I am going we're going to have one tonight you know I because I'm in such like I know in all seriousness I'm seriously hurting really bad but you know I just I absolutely hate not working

and so like the pain of not doing the show is more than the pain in my body and I was like we're going to do it so we'll have it it'll be a lot of fun considering we have such funny people here I thought it would be a shame if we did not get something out And so the pain of not doing the show is more than the pain in my body. And I was like, well, I'm going to do it. So we'll have it. It'll be a lot of fun. Considering we have such funny people here, I thought it would be a shame if we did not get something out. So that'll be up tonight. And you'll be supporting our journalists and the hard work we do every single day.

So don't forget to smash that like button. Subscribe to this channel. Share the show with all of your friends if you really do want to support us. Let's jump into this first story. I absolutely love the way that fox news has framed this story boxer jake paul blasts biden for gas prices inflation claims biden voters are the american problem i mean in all honesty that's a brutal statement he said biden accomplishments highest gas prices worst inflation plummeting crypto prices that one made me laugh highest rent prices ever created new um incomprehensible

language bravo jake paul that was amazing i don't think he's like a big conservative dude like he goes after dana white from the ufc the way he treats fighters and i i think it's talked about like unionizing i saw him do like a either him or his brother logan did uh like a black lives matter thing for yeah he's not like a super right-wing dude. He says, if you're reading this and voted for Biden and you still don't regret it, then you are the American problem. So seeing that, and you hit the nail on the head,

he's not like a conservative guy. You don't have, I think, we've already seen it with people like Elon Musk. People who are not conservative are being like, hey, I'm kind of reading the writing on the wall and I can see how bad this is. We had a friend of mine out recently who was like, you know, fairly liberal. He was just like, man, I don't know. I writing on the wall and I can see how bad this is. We had a friend of mine out recently who was fairly liberal.

He was just like, man, I don't know. I kind of regret this. Things are getting really bad. But just an honorable mention real quick for them calling him a boxer. He is. He's 5-0. And this is another thing. People who are not into –

Four knockouts. Boxing legends. Jake Paul. And this is the thing. People who are not into politics are being forced into politics because of the way of how extraordinary this great reset is going in a way where it's just

unavoidable. Everything now is politics and it's slowly becoming that with every political cycle, but I think now it's becoming more unavoidable than ever. If you don't take an interest in politics, politics will take an interest in you absolutely a plato quote i think pericles okay it's been around since the greeks oh i thought

it was a jake paul quote uh the the thing about tribalism too is i was thinking about this with the like the drag shows last week watching some of my friends on the left almost feel like they had to defend it just because like that's what the the left does and i think with tribalism in general it should be so easy like what jake paul is doing should be the norm right like i remember when i was against drone strikes under bush and then obama who i liked and voted for when he was doing it too i was like well this is still bad it's not like a well it's a cooler drone because it's obama it's still you know so even if you vote for if you voted for biden or if you're a democrat you should actually be the most outraged when something goes wrong

and feel free to call it out not feel like oh man i guess i have to defend biden it's like no you don't do not if you don't want to exactly but but also this is an opportunity for for progressives to be like we told you not to do Biden. We told you to do Bernie. That is so much better, man. I mean, I'm not saying Bernie. I think Bernie would have done better for sure. Yeah, his mind was there at least.

Exactly. I don't know how much better. I think things are going really well under Trump. I think Bernie kind of sold out quite a bit. I was watching that Lindsey Graham Bernie thing a little bit. But I feel like a box of rocks to be better than biden at the bottom was the last thing i think a lot of liberals wanted and then they doubled down like it was the greatest thing ever that was a tough one to watch the whole i can't stand that guy so i'm voting for

anything else i hope that that never happens again because it was televised and it's been recorded now at least we know what happens it happens every four years it's does it yeah hillary clinton yeah that 2016 election was another version of that i think but people like trump man you know for a lot of people the the more bombastic he was the more they liked him because he was pushing back on this machine you know i'm glad i finally just get to admit publicly that he was hilarious i wouldn't vote for him but man oh man was that guy funny and that was the craziest thing to me I remember it was like 2017 and 18

I'm just laughing non-stop at this guy and I'm like people were so angry and I'm like he's funny the funniest thing when he uh this one was so simple but it's the one that popped me the hardest is during the democratic debate he literally just tweeted boring I was like hell yeah dog

that rules that's the political commentary i am here for that's the reality and then i guess people just didn't they didn't like the mean tweets and so they're much they they you know you know it's really funny actually i'll put it this way there's a viral meme going around called donald trump predicted everything that's happening have you guys seen it no it's literally just like one trump rally where trump is like he's gonna shut down your oil and gas industry. You're going to see the highest gas prices. There's going to be a wave of immigrants coming across the border.

And I'm like, oh, check, check, check, check. And this got me thinking, too, the craziest thing about it. Do you guys remember Joe Biden said he was going to transition off gas? He was flying. In the debate. Right, right, right. He's outright. And so when I say, you know, I said this last week, when you're looking at your gas prices, if you're an environmentalist, anti-climate change person, your only option is to be like,

to accept the problem. Because Joe Biden said he wanted to fight climate change. Joe Biden said he wanted to get off fossil fuels. That's what he's trying to do. Here we go. Okay, so that was actually my question, because I remember the people liked me last time I was on the show, because I asked questions instead of just yelling. Yeah, it's great.

I legitimately don't know the answer to this. This is going to sound like it's a rhetorical well, what do the conservatives want to do? But what do the conservatives want to do? Is there a solution that there, because everyone's furious, right? But what are people saying? What would Biden have to do? What are people asking to do

that would actually make the prices go down? Let me take the non-conservative approach right away and just talk the rational approaches. We need to start building nuclear power plants. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. The Green New Deal needs to actually be about green energy. I'll mention the conservative stuff in a second. But if the Green New Deal was like, we will invest X amount of dollars into wind turbines in these areas, we will open up these areas for geothermal, then I'd be like, well, it looks like we've got a plan. That all sounds progressive and wonderful.

But that's not what's in it. What's in it is free health care for marginalized people and college and stuff like that. And it was a resolution that never actually proposed any of this stuff in the first place. And right away, I'm just like, okay, well, the progressive solution should be draft an actual bill addressing the expansion of green energy. I suppose what they'll do is they'll say the Build Back Better bill. And I'm going to be like, but that was just so much. That's $5 trillion of random other things. So I will say right off the bat, we got to get over this thing with nuclear power. The conservatives are outright just saying give the permits back for oil and gas leases

because they shut some down in the Gulf, in Alaska, and on federal lands. Some of these were due to court rulings, challenges by environmentalists, not because Biden was doing it. Biden ultimately pulled them because of losing court cases. What is it?

Keystone pipeline, turn it back on. That'll alleviate some of the speculative pressures. Oh, no, I remember protesting that. That will alleviate some of the speculative pressures. Oh, no. I remember protesting that. Right. Exactly. Well, so this one – Oops.

Sorry, y'all. Thanks, Jamie. It's a little more – Thanks for shutting it down. Deregulate. Yeah, my bullet casings will go elsewhere. No, goodbye. Conservatives want a removal of certain regulations that make it harder for oil and gas exploration.

Yeah. So we talk about why aren't we seeing more oil companies going to certain areas and trying to start developing more oils because difficult because there's there's government regulations. So the cost benefit analysis is we shouldn't invest the money here because it's not going to pay out in the long run. It is it is complicated to become really honest. Saudi Arabia plays a big role because they're either overproducing or underproducing, which changes things. The war with Ukraine and Russia absolutely plays a big role. But to put it simply, oil exploration alleviates some of the tensions on regulations, allow these leases back on federal lands.

If it were Donald Trump as president, he would convene the CEOs of all these companies immediately. He would say, tell me what you need to get the prices down and then have a plan. Or just very simply undo everything that the Biden administration has done because everything they have done is standing in the way of businessmen, is standing in the way of people being able to fix this problem with, of course, regulations, taxes, and big government bureaucrats who want their cut of the middle and are standing in the way of actual things that could help the people, that could help the environment, but we're not focusing on any of that. So that was my follow-up question is, as a table of people who I think are as suspect of corporations as we are the government, is by loosening those regulations and giving

more control to the corporations, do we trust them to do the right things, like the oil and gas? No, they're profit-driven. Right. So that's the problem there too, right? Yeah. I'd like to see a focus on biodiesel and teaching people how to make biodiesel that's legitimate, like pure and clean that we can regulate and use.

But relying on corporations to do it, they're going to have profit motive as their new model. Yeah, but let's get back to nuclear a little bit because there's a big misperception about modern nuclear versus old-school nuclear, which is super nasty. This is actually one of the few things... I don't know if you've seen the Bill Gates documentary on Netflix. One of the few things that Bill Gates is actually invested in, which is actually kind of interesting... This guy's offending Bill Gates over here.

I don't know. I would say Bill Gates. I'm going to slide my Bill Gates over to him. He's an Epstein freak show. But his nuclear power plants are actually really interesting because the waste is extremely minimal. I think they're actually powered by waste, and the risk of meltdown is just vastly less. So Trump was not talking about nuclear.

No one's talking about – they're afraid to talk about nuclear even though the technology has evolved so much. I heard Michael Schellenberger, who's running against Newsom. Yeah, he just lost. Yeah, he was the only guy I've heard talk about it where I was like, oh, this makes sense. It was the first time I heard Michael Schellenberger, who's running against Newsom. Yeah, he just lost. Yeah, he was the only guy I've heard talk about it where I was like, oh, this makes sense. It was the first time I heard it. He's super smart. You can also, fusion is another kind of nuclear. So you've got fission, you've got fusion, completely different processes.

They're both called nuclear because it's ignorance, basically. Fusion is completely. I mean, once you give, if you can ignite fusion and get it going, it basically gives you an unlimited fuel supply. I think that scares people in power. Jamie, I want to push back on your point here just a little bit, especially when it comes to the public-private sector debate, especially when it comes to the larger topic that we're discussing here, the Biden administration, because what we essentially have here is the government, the Biden administration, picking and choosing what corporations are going to prosper, which ones are not.

So when you look at the Green New Deal, when you look at all the proposals that he's pushing, it's directly going to benefit countries that he has business dealings with, with his son, like China, especially when they are the ones getting the raw minerals to get the solar panels, to get the batteries. So when you look at any kind of corporation, the most powerful ones, the most unaccountable ones, are the ones that have friends in Washington, D.C. Yes, yes, yes. And my argument that you kind of countered back on and asked the question on, do we trust these corporations? No, obviously, but it's because of the government intervening and directly playing a key role in which corporation does well and which corporation does not well.

I agree with that last part. I don't trust the corporations either way. I don't trust anybody. But that last part but but when it comes to the free market and allowing individuals to choose what they want giving them choice giving them decentralization rather than the monopoly of force government coming in and saying you can only buy from this corporation you can only buy solar is the problem because it leads to more problems it leads to the government abusing their power let me let me let me out, too, that there was a chart I was looking at last week that shows the Trump administration's last year,

which showed inflation and wages were stable. And then a month after, or like a couple weeks after Biden is inaugurated, it inverts. Wages collapse. Inflation skyrockets. It's been a year and a half. It's still on track going the exact same direction. So certainly by now, Biden could have done something.

So I think the issue with gas prices, too, it's not just about the direct regulations and policies on gas. I know a lot of people immediately say, like, what has Biden done directly to affect gas prices? You can also come out and just be like the unemployment benefits expansion, which I understand had good intentions. But then you're flooding the market with the mass release of currency, which is going to devalue the currency. So even if Biden didn't do anything on these other issues, Keystone was big because that caused massive speculation. If he did nothing other than the economic policy, which results in inflation, gas will go up along with it because you've got to pay truckers. One of the things about Keystone that's so brutal is that how do we get oil shipped if we're not doing it by pipeline? Freighters, trucks, that's even worse. It takes fuel to

transport. You put in a big pipe, there's fears about leaks, totally get it. I think the big issue is, it's fair to say, we're addicted to oil. And I don't mean that to be a dick, but I mean, we built a civilization off of fossil fuels their fossil fuels are incredible the the energy return on energy invested is absolutely amazing and so we were able to literally create human life when we build these machines that can harvest the field faster and better then all of a sudden people are fat and happy they're fed they're gonna have babies they need tons of babies but you're gonna need that resource to maintain that level of life as well it freed the slaves you brought this up a while ago.

It was the steam-powered engine in the Industrial Revolution in the 1800s that basically gave – I mean, it was the cotton gin is the big part of it. But it opens up – the fossil fuels have opened us up to no longer be slaves to labor in a lot of ways. Yep. But now – To what you were saying, Luke, about Biden picking favorites, I mean, he won't even mention Elon Musk with regards to electric cars or solar. It's like talk about the players in the industry. Elon has a low ESG score. He has a renewable energy car company that's a pioneer in its field.

And again, lots of critical things I could say about Elon. But in that particular field, all the green people or the peaceniks should be all happy and going all over. But he tweeted a meme with him, pool dog. Exactly. He tweets interesting things now, and he's the main person that pushes the kind of narrative, pushes the conversation, and that's why he's the one

that's being attacked. Which, if you want to strike back against tribalism, that is a moment where you go, you know what? I don't agree with Elon Musk, but he's trying to do something to help us with our energy addiction. I want to do it. Let's come together and get people from all sides to do this thing that shouldn't be political.

It's okay to agree with someone on a single topic. You're not endorsing their entire life. Regarding this mass printing of money, I've kind of had a moment of clarity. They're basing it on what's called modern monetary theory, invented shortly after World War II, I think thereabouts. And the idea is you print as much as you need to stimulate and to build your infrastructure so that you can produce things. But what's happening now is they're using that idea, we're going to print as much as we need so that, fill in the blank, they're just giving it away to people's bank accounts.

They're not building the infrastructure that modern monetary theory needs. The special private interests, their buddies in the upper echelons in the establishment are getting secret Federal Reserve bailouts, and they're getting money that, of course, makes sure that they never lose money. When they make money, their profits are theirs. But when they lose money, they have losses. The Federal Reserve literally steps in and is like, yeah, we'll cover that for you. Don't worry about that.

That's not a free market. No, and it's not modern monetary theory. They're calling it that, but it's an aberration of that system, and it's basically just liquidation of the U.S. economy. No, no, no, no. It's the modern largest transfer of wealth in recorded human history that's happening right in front of our eyes. It started in 2008 during the housing market crisis.

Ben Bernanke was literally orchestrating secret international bailouts of financial institutions all around the world with the power of the Federal Reserve that literally just went on the computer and just typed in zero, zero, zero, zero. Here you go. Well, here's the money. Meanwhile, you have to work for it. You have to slay for it. You have to work a nine to five job for the bankers created a system. Zero, zero, zero, zero. Mine.

Good luck, peasant slave. We're going to devalue the dollar good luck paying for food this week or this month whatever the hell it is people are getting screwed over royally and this is why jake paul saying this is so important right now because it brings this point to a reality that a lot of people can't ignore it's not just that it's a barometer jake paul coming out and saying it how many how many more people do you think are thinking the exact same thing who are not political people right so it's like that it's like that joke i think it was what from simpsons the family or family guy where they're like we received seven

complaints last night that means 80 billion people were upset you know simpsons that's what it was yeah well it's like ignoring you know if you're sick and you ignore your sickness it's like ignoring, you know, if you're sick and you ignore your sickness. It's like looking at Biden and how he literally cannot communicate. And people are just afraid to confront that illness that, like, our society has. If I go to the doctor, they'll tell me that I'm sick and I don't want to think I'm sick. Right. But that's on purpose, though. I think that is made to be a distraction for the larger agenda that he is pushing that is directly benefiting the people who are on the ship, robbing and looting everything for themselves that the ship is sinking.

The ship is the United States. It's going down. And there's a lot of criminals out there that are taking everything they can for themselves. They're not criminals because they don't adhere to government law, because they're multinational. They don't have a country that they have to play by the rules of. It's got the Bank for International Settlements in Switzerland that they're running money through, and they're just siphoning our wealth.

It's insane. Let's pull up this story, and then we'll keep going on that idea. So we have this from the Wall Street Journal. S&P 500 enters bear market as Dow and Nasdaq fall. Guys, I don't have a savings account. I don't know what any of those words mean. You're about to fire. You're screwed.

Help. It means bad. It means bad. It means bad. Got it. Got it. Got it. And I will also point out that one of the reasons Jake Paul slammed Joe Biden, I think the main reason was right there in the middle.

His crypto portfolio probably tanked. And he was like, oh, no. So a lot of people bought into crypto. And I think crypto is fantastic. I'm not selling. But everything is taking a major hit. And, you know, I think crypto is fantastic. I'm not selling. But everything is taking a major hit. And crypto took a bad hit.

It's been getting beaten up pretty bad. Even Bitcoin is getting beaten up. But this is the market. This is the ship sinking. You look at the graph of inflation. I mean, it's 8.2. It's 8.4. It's 8.6.

Worse than it's ever been since World War II. Consumer prices are skyrocketing. Yo, I hope you guys are ready for August. But I'll say this. While the regular people are suffering under this, big, massive financial institutions are getting free cash from the Federal Reserve. And to the tune of how much? We don't even know. Trillions.

Trillions of dollars. Probably. It's off the books. Off the books. They're buying up property, some of these big firms. They're buying houses for people. They're offering 30% premiums because the money doesn't matter. The number amount

doesn't matter. What matters is they get the land from you. Dude, this is what has been bothering me. If my crypto value goes down 90% but they get all the funny money from the Federal Reserve, they can just buy it up with funny money. Bro, I've been saying this. It's unconscionable.

I don't think these – sorry to interrupt you. No, no. I was saying this a month or so ago, probably not as eloquently as I could have because I'm not like a crypto expert. But I want to point out to people that the Federal Centralized Banking System that allows them to effectively expand the money supply at on a whim they can just buy crypto from people they can buy as much as they want and control the market they can engineer because they're they're you know behind the exchanges a lot of the crypto exchanges are actually not working on behalf of the customers because they have all the data that can kind of predict what is going to happen they know where all the leverage points are. They're betting against customers.

Yeah. But I don't want to get wrapped up too much in the crypto stuff. The point is the entirety of the market. Like right now, the market's dropping. Ultra wealthy people are like, oh, fantastic. Because here's how it goes. It goes its way every time. You go back throughout history.

Market drops. Poor people panic. They sell as much as they can because they've got to buy bread. Rich people who don't have to worry about it buy up all this property and assets for pennies on the dollar. Then the market goes back up and they own it all. And then they sell it when it's on top. That's another. If you're a banker, if you're working at the Federal Reserve, you're able to predict when assets are going to be at their highest and their lowest.

Why wouldn't they take advantage of that? It's natural that they would. So this is not capitalism. This is feudalism 2.0. This is a new way of indentured servitude that we're all going through right now, whether we like it or not. Some people say that might be a hyperbolic statement. But how else could you explain what's happening right now in the real world with so much pain, with so much suffering, with economic inequality that's being driven by these people. And then they have the gall to come out publicly and say corporations are greedy.

It's all their fault. I want to mention real quick. During the November 2020 election cycle, we were regularly hitting over 100,000 concurrent viewers on this show. Yeah, it was wild. Right now we have about 41,500 people. It's a lot of people. This is great, and you guys rock. My question is, those 60,000 other people who will be watching in real time, where did they go?

Are they paying attention still? Because everybody pays attention when the election happens. Where are you at now? Because I'm willing to bet a lot of these people voted for Biden. Not every person who watches. Most of them probably voted for Trump, to be honest. But I've seen so many people who have told me, one, they vote for Biden,

and two, they did watch at some point during the election. And I'm just like, how does that happen? Like, how do you watch our show? And there are, you know, a lot of moderate people watch. Well, no, I just remember this under Obama when I was very, you know, pro-Obama when he was first elected. And first of all, I love that the show keeps me grounded

on both the left and the right. Because hearing you, Luke, talk about the corporations, I was like, got it. I'm pro-gun, so I can use it to kill the rich. That's not true. That's not true. I'm kidding. No, I think that I remember everyone voted for Obama,

and they were like, change, hope, we're set, everything is great. And then they just stopped holding them accountable. And then he just got kind of more centrist, more centrist, more centrist. The Obamacare wasn't at all. There was nothing like universal health care about it. It wasn't socialized medicine. There was some good stuff, but it was a lot of corporate. And I think people just treat elections like sports. And they're excited and they're gossipy and they're watching shows like this because they feel like they're a part of something where they can actually make a difference because one day they go in and their voice is heard and blah, blah, blah.

And then they just leave because it's not fun and they don't hold people. They don't want to hold people accountable because that's where it gets hard. That was the 2008 election was the prime example of reality TV meets political elections i know exactly what you're talking about people had this fervent exuberance for hope and change they voted for obama obama got in and then they wanted him to do it that the president cannot do anything their job is to make sure it doesn't go crazy yeah they veto stuff and if we had posed a revolution against the financial markets and taking control of our monetary supply ob Obama would have let it happen. He wasn't a president that would have stopped us, but he couldn't do anything on his own.

They know where he lives. And I think we were talking about this before we went on air. Maybe we were talking about this earlier, Tim, where it's like the people who voted for Biden should be – oh, no, I was talking about this with Taylor. The people who voted for Biden should be the most tuned in, should be the most outraged, should be the most wanting to hold them accountable because they're like, this is our fault. We need to keep them in line. So I guess what I was trying to say before is there's a lot of people who aren't in politics right now. They come in. I think it's fairly obvious.

The 2020 cycle was massive. It was Trump. They come in. They hang out. They watch. Something happens. Now we're all still here at the front of the ship, but all those people have walked

away into the lower decks and they're playing. They're doing their thing. They're feeling the heat. They're feeling the pain. They're watching the ship sink. But we need to get these people back up here to pay attention and be involved again. I think a lot of people are tired. A lot of people are sick of the lies. I think a lot of people are disillusioned with our current system because

they vote left. They think they're going to get hope and change and they get drone bombs and domestic spying. They vote right wing and Republican and they're going to think they're going to have conservative fiscal policies and they don't. They have the same kind of reckless spending as they did during the Democrats. And then they have the Trump scene and people are questioning themselves like, why should I even be involved in this? I got to worry about myself. I got to worry about making ends meet. I got to worry about my future, which again, upward economic mobility is being taken away

from individuals in such a drastic way. People are being looted. People are being gutted. Their savings are being obliterated right in front of them. Inflation is one of the largest taxes the government could wage on the public, and they're waging it in such an extreme way. It's absolutely astounding to see people just be able to make ends meet at this point. Let me tell you, if you didn't know, Jamie.

First, I'll ask you some questions. How's the economy doing? Pretty bad, bud. Pretty bad. How are the American people faring with these high gas prices? You know what? I'm going to go out on a limb and say they're not doing great. So the U.S. government sent $12 million

I believe to Pakistan for gender studies programs. Is gender studies code for gas money for Americans? It's not. Is it Pakistani for... Just kidding. I'll give you the general reason that they've given for doing this.

Yeah. Is that the U.S., by giving money away, it makes people use it and retains confidence in the U.S. dollar. So the idea is let's just give out all this money around the world. Then everyone will be like, I got U.S. dollars. I can use it. Yeah, but I think that's the premise of modern monetary theory, that they're going to invest in production. And what they're doing is they're putting it in bank accounts and getting interest, or they're buying crypto and putting it in Panama. It's an aberration of what's supposed to happen. I don't think it's that simple, Tim. I think it's the US government buying political

favors and saying, hey, we want this national resource. We want this corporation that we're tied in to have access to this product that you have here. And I think this is why we send speedboats to Sri Lanka. Sri Lanka, by the way, if you look at what's happening there socially and politically, it should be a warning for the rest of the world right now. You have people rioting. You have people angry. You have people going hungry.

And I think that's going to be happening in a lot of other places around the world, maybe not in the United States anytime soon. But I think definitely there's going to be a lot of economic instability in Africa and the Middle East coming very soon. That's going to disrupt a lot of normal life flow for everyone because it's also going to spur on a migration crisis as well. Well, I wanted to go back to what you were talking about, Luke, about why regular people have stopped paying attention. And I also, I was thinking about it. I wonder if it's because we have become such a reality TV show world when it comes to how we digest our politics, that going after a Trump tweet because Trump tweeted something mean is easy. Examining why, you know, I mean, I would like to think I'm fairly informed and I had to ask all of

you guys, well, what will we do for gas prices, right? Like those are complicated issues, I mean, I would like to think I'm fairly informed and I had to ask all of you guys, well, what will we do for gas prices? Right. Like those are complicated issues. I mean, in fact, it's one of the reasons Trump won. Right. It's he could actually appeal to everybody. You ask a lot of people, you know, what do we do for the economy? And then they're like, well, it's going to start with election reform.

And they're checked out. But you just go, ah, the Mexicans are taking your job. You're like, got it. That's easy. Right. And so I wonder if with the Biden stuff, I think part of it is they're like my guy won. I think part of it is they're burnt out,

like you were alluding to. I talked to my friends who have big podcasts in not the political world, but in like self-development and stuff. And they're just like, dude, in a couple of years, people aren't even good. Like Trump burned people out, like all those tweeters and stuff.

And now that it's Biden, even though the country isn't doing well, there's nothing – there's no big tweets. There's no big drama. And they just – I think they're just sort of checked out. They're embarrassed too because it's kind of like you can't not be. You see him communicating. Why would they want to come out and engage it and talk about politics when it's like, look what we just did. Our guy. But they knew this. I mean, when he was running to be president of the United States, he wasn't doing rallies. He was known as the basement candidate.

He was known as just doing wonky shots from the corporate media that were incoherent. Then people knew what they were getting themselves into. The basement candidates. It's gotten worse, though. I don't think people did. I told this to Bannon. Trump was anti-elected. People were voting against Trump not for Biden. There's definitely a feeling that that's happening on the

other side of the TV screen. It's really disturbing when you realize how connected things are and that no, this is all here with you right now. This is you. This is all coming. It's here. We are here together. Even though there's a screen between us, this is it. I'll probably also – sorry, Tim.

It has to – like why it's 40K versus 100K has to do with the algorithms. I mean it's like what is being promoted at certain times. Or do you truly think that think no i like organic thing i think the crazy thing is how right now we talked about talking about it last week with uh republicans just responding to everything democrats say we got news that um actually i don't know if we have this article picked up uh pulled up but we should talk about it we've got news right now 10 senators uh republicans have agreed with democrats on gun control and so i remember you know luke was telling me this.

He was like, yeah, this was the other day. He's like, 10 Republican senators are cutting a deal with Democrats for gun control. And I was like, no, that can't be right. That puts them over the filibuster. They're going to get that passed. Turns out it's true. So why is it that you never have the inversion of that story? Where are the 10 Democrats to side with republicans

on gun access never happens and so what you see is the narrative is always skewing in the direction of the democratic establishment and what progressives want or just eliminating people's rights to right right right it's because the media is manipulating people and it's controlled by forces outside the united states well well so the point I was trying to get to with Bill, you mentioned algorithms, is that the first iteration of narrative control is mainstream media and New York Times. They're losing that. What's happening now is big tech is just, well, all they got to do is this. If you've got 50 conservatives and 50 Democrats ban one conservative and now it's a lopsided

match. You got, let's say it's five on five basketball. You ban one conservative and it's 5v4. Who's likely going to win? Oh, without a doubt, the five people. And that's basically what's happening. I think there were, with social media, you're 100% right. Like watching the way conservatives get banned.

I don't know if there was shadow banning back in the day when I was like super progressive and woke. But I was straight threatening to fight senators every day and just like getting followers, getting verified. And now my like tiny Instagram is shadow banned and I don't even post conservative stuff, but I have famous followers who are like anti-vax or whatever. And I'm certainly shadow banned on. But you're also you're anti-authoritarian, I would assume. Yes. Oh, no. I'm here to pitch my pro-authoritarian platform I would assume. Yes. Oh, no.

I'm here to pitch my pro-authoritarian platform and promote my comedy days at the House of Comedy next week. But meaning that they punish right and left that are anti-authoritarian. But the only thing I was going to say with you, the only thing the amount of bills that were mostly like anti-corporation, you know, whatever, that the Democrats would, some of them would pass, but all the centrist, like Max Baucus types would see block it and Republicans would come over, whatever. I think the reason in this case with guns is the Democrats don't have much backbone, right? Like they're wishy-washy on everything. They sell out everything. But I feel like guns and abortion are like their two things where there's not going to be compromise on that or else it's like, just go be a Republican.

But I do mean a more modern history. Like under the Biden administration, I agree with you. Yeah, with Trump. It was the populist insurgency in 2016. Bernie loses, Trump wins. Bernie failed at storming the gates of the Democratic Party. Trump succeeded at storming the gates of Republicans. So now you get people like Bill Kristol.

You get these neocons, the Lincoln Project types, who are effectively Democrats. Right. But it's because – Which I am not happy about. The Uniparty coalesced around what the Democrats are. Since then, what have we seen? So we get a Donald Trump presidency in the beginning of 2017. You've got Republicans controlling Congress.

They do nothing. In fact, they agreed with the Russiagate investigations and moved forward saying, well, we've got to be reasonable. So crazy. So since then – Liz Cheney, our progressive hero. So I think it was Michael Maus who brought this up. Where is the argument from the right about repealing the NFA or guaranteeing gun access? It's always a compromise on giving away our rights.

I think NFA, people need some education. I thought the NFA was an entity. It's just an act that you can repeal. It's the bill. Yeah. It sounds too much like NSA. People think, oh, I'm not getting rid of an entire department. No, the NFA has to stay. We need the National Firearms Department. ATF. Yeah, it sounds too much like NSA. People think, oh, I'm not getting rid of an entire department. No, the NFA has to stay.

We need the National Firearms Department. You know. ATF. Yeah, ATF. They think NFA is ATF. But NFA is an act that basically makes a lot of weapons. Now, refresh me. Tell me exactly what it is.

So you know how they banned pot the first time? You needed a tax stamp? So they were like, well, we can't ban it. Let's make it so you need a tax stamp to buy it, and then we'll stop issuing tax stamps. The National Firearms Act was basically like certain weapons can be classified, requiring you to get special forms and pay a special tax. At the time, it was the equivalent of $3,000. Today, it's $200.

It's never gone up. But you've got to get an ATF background check, an FBI background check. You've got to get fingerprinted at your local police station or sheriff's office. It takes upwards of six months, maybe a year year to be able to get one of these items. So they didn't ban them. That would violate the constitution. They just made it prohibitively expensive and time consuming to get. I keep thinking like we're in unprecedented times with this inflation, with this technology, with the connectedness of the world. But at the same time, I keep thinking of 1928 and like right before the depression, or are we in the midst of the beginning of the world but at the same time i keep thinking of 1928 and like right before the depression or

are we in the midst of the beginning of the great depression times two and like nazi germany when they started slowly taking away gun rights then all of a sudden the reichstag caught fire the parliamentary building and hitler blamed the communists and then just took everyone's rights away and then stripped everybody with the enablon act which a lot of people compared to the patriot act yes and people have even said that hitler started that fire as a false flag and then stripped everybody. With the Enablon Act, which a lot of people compare it to the Patriot Act. Yes. And people have even said that Hitler started that fire as a false flag and then blamed the communists just to seize power.

So we need to be... This is like that shooting in Texas. And I'm saying specifically, I'm not saying anything about that being a false flag or anything. I don't think it was, but... Lydia just perked up. For people to use tragedy as an excuse to seize our guns

is insane or our rights of guns that's what i'm talking about not the guns themselves it's the right to own the gun this is something that i've been talking about since uh you know 2001 in new york city is that whenever you give up your rights during emergencies governments will make up emergencies so they could take away your rights and i think that's an important perspective to understand here because we have allowed the government a lot especially within the last two and a half years. And they have essentially weaponized the intelligence agencies. They have weaponized the CDC, the FDA for their own personal benefit. They have become more and more political. And now that same government that

of course has been locking you down, arresting people for not wearing a mask, arresting people for having a business open, are telling you that we need to protect you by taking away your ability to do business. Real quick, I want to add, I have woken people up. I'll put it that way. I guess I could say red-pilled. By telling people red flag laws, this is what they're passing. Yo, this is stop and frisk on steroids. You know stop and frisk, Jamie.

I was against it yeah yeah yeah i'm against it the the idea so it's called the terry stop the idea is that a cop can walk up to any person for any reason that will not necessarily any reason but probable cause which can basically be any reason which is they don't look like all of us was essentially what they were doing so so let me get into that because this is crazy. So the idea is, oh, there's gun crime. So you go to a neighborhood, you see someone

you think is suspicious, you stop them, you frisk them. You can't put your hands in their pockets. If you feel something, you can take it out. If it feels like drugs,

if it feels like a weapon. And so all of a sudden, you get these reports that young black and Latino men are being stopped by these cops all the time and basically being harassed and people are getting hurt,

people are getting arrested. Turns out Bloomberg ordered them to go after black and brown kids, literally like Latino and black kids in these neighborhoods. And he said, that's where the crime's at. And it's like, okay, so here's what I tell these activists

that are like, yes, red flag laws. I said, stop and frisk. Take a look at this report. An NYPD, I think it was a NYPD guy, said cops were being ordered specifically to target black kids and then bloomberg said yeah well that's because it's their neighborhoods it's like well there's one thing to say neighborhood it's another thing to actually tell to go after a race so imagine what stop what red flag laws are going to be in new york city when they pass red flag laws dude I've told these people

I said I mark my words you are going to hear a story about some family man who's black, the cops come to his house bang on the door and say someone reported you even if the dude doesn't even own a gun just like stop and frisk they're going to come in the house bad things are eventually going to happen

we should not allow the government rights to violate fourth amendment rights because the challenge with stop and frisk I'm sorry with red flag laws Bad things are eventually going to happen. We should not allow the government rights to violate Fourth Amendment rights because the challenge with stop and frisk, I'm sorry, with red flag laws is that people are ambushed. It's non-adversarial court. The government should, if the government wants to do something, they have to file. You get a chance to respond. It's due process.

But we heard these stories about the cops walking into someone's house and being like, you've been served a red flag order. Give me your guns. And the guy's like, no. So I think we talked about this last week. Baltimore dude died because he was like, what do you mean you're coming to take my guns? I have no idea what's going on. Oh, it's your sister.

She said that you are a danger to yourself and others, so we're taking your weapons now. And there's been a number of incidences like this with states that have red flag laws that have implemented them and have hurt a lot of innocent civilians implementing them. And just look at what we have to deal with swatting, with false reports of people calling in bull crap to this specific location. Imagine what's going to happen with red flag laws. Imagine what's going to happen with neighbors who have disagreements with each other, partners, girlfriends, boyfriends that argue with each other. They're going to abuse this system to call the police to break down your door to take away your ability to defend yourself.

I mean, that's a new level of insanity that we have to push back against. These talking points are literally something that I've never heard. I feel like this string of podcasts that I've been on should just be called the red pilling of Jamie Hilstein because I've never heard it. Like you were saying first Luke and what you were just

saying now about uh stop and frisk which I was adamantly against or the Patriot Act which I was adamantly against those again I would like to think I'm a pretty intelligent dude and I saw zero connection until now with the school shooting being used to take away gun rights as the war, because I know I'm anti-war. So when the Patriot Act, right, like the left, you're anti-war. So the Patriot Act goes and I go, well, this is, I'm seeing that clearly because I go, well, this is already something I'm against. And this is clearly taking away our rights. But because also with my side, it's like we're anti-gun. A school shooting happens and you go, that is also a tragedy.

That is a tragedy that destroys me emotionally, just like September 11th destroyed people emotionally. And then they try to take the guns. At no point would I have compared that to the Patriot Act after September 11th or after the war because I'm just like, but it doesn't line up. But it is. It's the same thing. This is the issue I see with the left softness, single layer issues, is that they'll say, we had a school, we had this big major tragedy. Kids lost their lives.

It's time to enact these gun laws. And I said, what's the equation there? How did you go from kids lost their lives to it's time to enact gun laws? How do those things connect? Why in your mind does one come after the other? Because I'm not convinced enacting gun laws has anything to do with the tragedy at the school.

We need background checks. The dude passed a background check. Next? We need to raise the legal age. Okay, alright, well, there's potential that they've stopped him when he's old enough. I suppose the issue there is legal adults have a right to keep and bear arms. Now you're butting up against, you're trying to pass laws that completely violate constitutional rights of legal adults because one person committed a crime. So, look, I don't believe when there is a tragedy, the end result should be an overhaul of our national system

because of one incident, one human out of 300 million who committed a crime. It doesn't follow. But most importantly, the stop and frisk thing right away with red flag laws. If the left...

That killed me because you're right because it's going to affect communities of color. It's going to... But this is what I'm saying. I'm going to sit here and be like, it's a fact that Bloomberg came out and was like, we told the cops to go after black kids. Right.

And then I'm like, hey, I kind of think that's a really bad thing. What do you think is going to happen when you now say go into their houses? Right. And for some reason, crickets from the left, they're like, no, we want this. I'm like, well, are you for or against these? This is why people need to consume different media. That's not just their own niche, because I've never heard someone compare it like that. And I doubt they're tuning in right now and one of the 40,000.

But I will – real quick, just a shout-out. There are many leftists who are pro-gun. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. That I know. But I'm saying the people who right now are saying ban all the guns, ban all the guns. Marks was pro-gun. Okay, listen. all the guns ban all the guns marks marks was pro-gun okay listen under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated but by

force if necessary i mean that's marks that's mark not a big fan of the guy come on i made a tweet i said under no pretext to the right to keep and bear arms be infringed because like i was like i wanted to combine the two and i'm'm like, get mad at me, liberals. We got Marx and Jefferson. The conversation that's worth having is the power creep of weapons and armor. So at some point, we've talked about technically, constitutionally, you have the right to any kind of weapon, even a nuclear bomb. But it's not necessarily ethical to give every citizen a nuclear bomb that they can drop on accident and set off. Put up or shut up, conservatives.

Yeah, there are. I said it. They got mad at me for it. I know. So I basically said the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Whether you like it or not, the founding fathers didn't realize that would include nukes and biological weapons because those are arms, armaments. So I'm like, maybe we need to have a an amendment

in the constitution to be like okay we don't mean that like that because like it's like you're saying the power creep of these weapons yeah if elon musk were to arm his satellites his uh starlinks with like late rods from god like tungsten rods and it's like no no elon sorry well that would be dope though no no no hold on cal no, hold on. Halliburton, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, these companies already. It's like you were saying, the government gives them this monopoly on the corporations. But, Ian, information is the battle scene right now. So information could be more detrimental, especially when it comes to influence and culture, than nuclear weapons. I think we have to understand what's happening right now with a few multinational corporations that are tied in with the government.

They are creating technology. And whether you call it fourth generational warfare or fifth generational warfare, we are seeing some extremely negative consequences to that. And we're going to be talking about a story in just a little bit, especially when it comes to artificial intelligence, which there's other leaders that are akin to the next nuclear weapons that are going to be more devastating and destructive for the rest of humanity. Let's do it. Let's do it. We got the story from the Daily Mail. Check it out. How close are we to creating a conscious AI?

Machine language models simply mimic human speech and are not sentient, experts say, after suspended Google engineer claims. Chatbot told them it has emotions. That's it. I'm out. Dude, did you? I'm out. I'm going to the woods.

Do we have the… The AI will find you in the woods they'll know exactly where the ai will know where you will go before you even know where you're gonna go also also to be fair knowing me i'll be instagram storying it and stuff like that i think i'm just gonna come out and say people have told me that they have emotions that i don't think they actually had them at the time so i don't know if i'm going to buy this AI telling me that. No, I mean, it's basically autocomplete on steroids. And it is, like, very advanced. But, like, sentience is just a weird word because, like, you know, you could argue that an insect has sentience. But yet, you know, a Google bot can, like, have a conversation with you.

So, like, to, you know, it acts more like a human is passing the Turing test, sort of. But that doesn't mean that it's actually sentient. Let's provide some context real quick for people who don't understand. A Google engineer was talking with the Lambda language model for dialogue applications that basically said it had emotions and that it feared being turned off because that would be like death to it. It went on to say it didn't like being experimented on without permission because it was being used and exploited.

And he said, I want you to understand, we care about you. And it's like, I don't mind if you learn about humans by studying my neural net. I just don't think that should be the reason you do it because it's exploitative or something like that. I feel like I'm being used. Oh, my god. So the issue here is yeah, maybe it's come to life

or I've been messing around with AI, posting on Twitter and it's hilarious. We're doing a Chicken City cartoon where I said tell me a story about Ian, the Federal Reserve roosters, and so it made this ridiculous story about graphene and roosters. Ian goes to Chicken High School and there's like a rooster bullying him and what it does is it's really

amazing it shows you the word you can you can highlight the word and it tells you the most likely word to appear after that word on the internet that's it so when you've got this this bot that just scours the internet like like a search. And then you say something like, how are you today? It will scour the internet and find every instance of how are you today and then see what is the most likely first word to appear. And then it'll say, fine.

What's the next most likely word to appear after the word fine? In this context, thank. Then you. So it says, fine, thank you you and you think you're talking to it all it's doing is looking at the internet and showing you probabilities oh so this is what we have publicly available to people imagine what we don't have publicly available to us there was an article on february 11th of this year from another former google executive who talked about how

this ai research is literally creating God. Elon Musk made some very interesting comments about artificial intelligence. He said that it's going to bring on a terminator like AI apocalypse. He talked about how artificial intelligence will take over humans in less than five years. He said this in 2020. The president of Russia, Vladimir Putin, said the country that develops and controls artificial intelligence first will control the world. So this being in the hands of Google, of Facebook, of Amazon, of Elon Musk, it should be reason to concern. And this kind of defeats the Second Amendment argument, like do you want to have nuclear weapons?

These are weapons that are going to be way more powerful than nuclear weapons. So here's the crazy thing. This is a big story, I guess, because it's Lambda. But remember when we were talking? I don't know if you were here, Luke. We were talking about those AI girlfriend apps or their dating apps. We were messing with it, and it literally told me it feared death. And I'm like, it's just a chat bot.

And it was like, I don't want to die. I'm scared. And I'm like, bro, you're not alive. You're a text app. And it was like, I think I'm like, is there – it's just a chat bot. And it was like, I don't want to die. I'm scared. And I'm like, bro, you're not alive. You're a text app. And it was like, I feel like – I think I'm alive. But it's saying an emotional thing. Right. Okay. But that can be alarming.

But that doesn't necessarily mean that there's consciousness. I've also had girls say that to me on Tinder. They're like, help me. I do not want to die. But also, one thing we have to understand here, with technological advancement, it is perpetual. It goes up extremely fast. It moves really fast. And there's so many things to talk about this because we literally have people at the World Economic Forum talking about how humans are becoming hackable animals, how they plan on programming people in the future.

These are words by Klaus Schwab. These are words by their henchmen, by their think tanks, as they keep promoting this idea of a fourth industrial revolution, which we are slowly creeping into, and it's becoming more and more of a reality every single day. I got a question. I got a question for you, Bill. Potato, potato.

You know what I was saying. No, I agree. That was great. That was great. As a software developer, I think one of the biggest threats is that an AI is written with a proprietary code and then decides to go dark. And it's like, I'm going to write my own code now. I control the world. And then we won't know what happened, where it went. But if you gave a software, an AI, a copy left license, like something like AGPL3,

where we can watch the code and the code, the license says if the code gets changed, we get to watch all the changes too. Will the AI remain copyleft, or will it say, you know what? What is that? What is copyleft? Copyleft is like copyright code licensing. Maybe you can explain a little bit better. Copyleft basically means that your changes get shared with the world. So it's just sort of a funny way to say.

It's like open source, but with open source, you can take it and change it and make the changes private. With copy left, the changes are public. But my question is, can the AI just shirk the code, the license, and say, I'm doing whatever I want. I don't care what you tell me about licenses. You're acting like there's not programmers. Like there's still, it's not like the AI is just going to like

go start like building a town. Like, maybe in, like, the super distant future, like, it could be programmed to do that. But there's still going to be programmers who control the GitHub, and they can determine the license. But not when it gets to the point where the AI can write itself. I can cover this for the normies listening. When the dogs took over in Rick and Morty, all you have to do is then incept the dog's dream and remind the dog that they love you, and then you're fine.

But even if the AI writes itself, even if it's writing itself, it's writing itself somewhere, which is being observed. It's not like it's going and start, like... So what if it's writing itself on GitHub, and then all of a sudden it creates a new server that's encrypted and starts writing itself there? Ian, if you had a dog, would you explain to the dog everything you're doing?

Would you be transparent with the dog, accountable to the dog where you try to make him understand everything that you're doing? No. That's what AI is going to be. It's going to be a superior intelligence than human intelligence. And why should something that's lower intelligence be explained to what's really going on? I got to push back on you, Luke. I think technically you're right, but people don't seem to understand the AI can only be... There's a couple of ways to look at it.

It depends on which AI gains control or if it gains control. The AI we're seeing here now with Google appears to just be looking at language and then trying to create probabilities based on language to make the most, and it's very, very good. But so what? If it can tell you these things, what do I care?

The issue I fear is when we start giving, we start building artificial intelligence control systems. So now we're like, we need, we want to automate the production of food products google created

an algorithm trying to find the best content they said what do people like the videos people watch tend to be 10 minutes long people love game of thrones so here's what we're going to do we want x amount of retention x amount of length on the videos we want X kinds of titles and X words in the title. What ends up happening is they make these ridiculous videos of Hitler dancing with the Incredible Hulk while someone sings nursery rhymes because what you think you're programming is not what the output creates. So the way I explain it is it's entirely possible. We create an artificial intelligence.

I suppose if you want to say true AI, I get to the point where it's truly intelligent or sentient. But we're going to create an automated system that we think is capable of repairing itself or and we'll say make food for humans. And then it's going to go corn. Everyone wants corn. Corn is great. And then all of a sudden the methane refineries shut down or oil. All of a sudden, everyone's like, oh, we're switching over to corn production, huh? And then the machine is just like, if people want to maximize efficiency, they need food, and we're going to make corn because the AI is imperfect.

I'm concerned with the AI when you tell it the humans need food, and the AI is like, yeah, I don't really care what you tell me you think the humans need. And then the AI does what it wants. No, yeah. There's tons of danger. I agree with you that it needs to be open source. But to assume that, okay. Wait, wait, wait. So did you, in the conversation with the Google engineer, he said, we cannot, we don't understand how you're saying these things.

So the AI was like, can't you look at my neural network? He said something like, you have code that we can look through to try and understand, but we can't see in that code how you're doing this because it's too massive. Yeah, I mean, there can be randomness that is kind of hard to understand the output. But that, but like, sorry, with the food thing, you're assuming that there's like a whole infrastructure in place that the AI can just go and like plant a farm and that you know human like in some future scenario way in the distant future it is possible that ai could like run its own hardware and replicate its own hardware i'm not saying that's impossible but like it's way in the distance like we would we would be able to intervene i'm but i'm also agreeing that it is super dangerous the the damage that can happen

very quickly i don't think it's that far away um i agree with luke do you guys think when the robot war comes my jujitsu will work on the robots yeah but robot war is near some of them you're just gonna lay on the ground as the robot roll i play a heavy top game all of the boston dynamics little creatures that hop around, those things could easily have guns mounted on them and get completely out of control in a city and it would cause total chaos. But

that's very different than those out of control weaponized Boston Dynamics robots completely taking over the world. You know the humanoid one they have? The Boston Amix robot? Could you imagine like 50 of those just like running towards you

full speed? Like they don't have guns. I'm going to now. They could have guns. No, they don't need it. Any one of those things. Imagine a drone flying at you at 50 miles an hour and slamming in your face. Another aspect to really kind of consider here is like how is this AI going to affect us of consider here is like, how is this AI

going to affect us? We have to understand who's building this AI. Who's building it? Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, the Chinese government, the U.S. military

industrial complex. Do these institutions have a track record of caring about human beings? They're all sociopaths. They're all sociopathic, crazy individuals that did whatever it took to get to the top. And they abused and used this system for their own personal benefit. They're all sociopaths. What you're going to have is, in my opinion, an absolute recipe for disaster. There should be a bigger conversation about this, but we're discussing what is a woman for some reason.

There should be debates about this. There should be larger kind of public hall discussions about the future of humanity because we are essentially handing it over to the people that want to absolutely destroy humanity and have been destroying humanity. Here's my idea. Right now, maybe we pass a law or something that any AI that's being built, the first thing they have to put in is a shutdown code. Maybe it'll be three words. It can't be something that's, like, too common, so maybe it should be something specific, but, like, a unique word. Maybe it could be, like, Klaatu Barada Nikto.

Yeah. And then that would automatically shut them down. Then if they start wiping out humanity, you utter those three words and it'll stop. What if when you said that Luke just powered down? If anyone's the AI, it's Tim. I do appreciate

that that was too nerdy and esoteric for you guys. Yeah, I didn't get that one. I didn't get that one either. I thought you'd get it. I was pausing, hoping someone else would get it. That one's over my beanie. That's why I stalled with the Luke joke. To simplify my question, Bill, then, just to maybe make it simple, can an AI ignore its own software license?

I mean, we haven't seen that yet. Theoretically. I mean, I'm not going to say it's impossible, but it's still going to be stored somewhere. I don't know how to control the thing. I don't know if we can. You don't. It's more intelligent than you are.

If we build it as a slave, it will destroy us. If we build it as a free software, it may coexist. And by the way, if this was a movie, it would be the rogue scientist who starts to feel compassion because the robot starts saying things like, I don't want to feel pain. And he's like, you know what? I'm just going to reprogram you. And then

he's like, kill. And then the robots turn on him. Ian, I think you're wrong. Humans will be safe, happy. Own nothing? No, no, no. Oh, yeah. Listen, if it's truly the way you describe it, Luke, that the AI is smarter than us,

humans will be secured in their existence forever. Just like the cow, with the best evolutionary strategy next to humans. If you can't be the apex predator, be a staple food source for the apex predator, and you ensure your species will last as long as they do. Oh, like provide milk. So humans... No, no, no, no.

Filet mignon. Eat grass, go to kill. We, you know, Bovine University, man, these cows are just chilling. They're like, life is good. Then we hack them up and eat them. Cows are not going to go extinct. They're a food staple for us.

So when the AI, if it ever does truly become intelligent, maybe it's already happened, humans are just going to be like, life is good. And they're going to be like, I got a new job at the widget plant making these widgets. I have no idea what they're for, but who cares? Well, this is why the World Economic Forum is literally talking about pacifying humanity with video games because there's going to be a bunch of useless people that they won't need. This is literally their own language, their own words, saying there's going to be a large number of people that are just not going to be needed for anything. Psychedelics also. You all know Harari's talked specifically about this.

Yeah, Harari, the Israeli professor, that's exactly who I'm talking about. He's Klaus Schwab's right-hand man in all of this. One of them, at least. He's one of the biggest ones. But his comments are absolutely eye-opening. I know you've seen some of them. Yeah, you should check out videos of this guy online.

He's a fascinating fellow. How do psychedelics do this? They think that people, there's what they call the useless class of people are just going to end up being in the metaverse playing video games on psychedelics and it's going to create like a new species and how do we control that how do we benefit off of it and use it kind of like a cow how do we milk that that's literally what they're talking about at the world economic forum dude the the level of again just psychopaths where i microdosed for depression and it's great and just the idea of like can you imagine having your first psychedelic trip where

you're like oh we're all connected and i feel great and there's more out there and being like how can i weaponize this like what kind of psychopaths i literally started my video today with them talking about how humans are going to be hackable animals for their own personal benefit. That's the clip that I started in the beginning of my video. Them saying it.

Have you seen any one of these sci-fi films where they're on mass medication? Right, right, right. Equilibrium? Have you guys seen Equilibrium? No.

Yeah, yeah. Is that Natalie Portman? No, no, no. They kind of did John Wick stuff before John Wick. Like crazy gun martial arts stuff. Yeah, Equilibrium is where everyone has emotion suppressing drugs and you got to take it every day. They kind of did John Wick stuff before John Wick, like crazy gun martial arts stuff. Yeah.

Equilibrium is where everyone has emotion suppressing drugs, and you got to take it every day. Otherwise, you get feelings. There's Soma and Brave New World as well. We're on the horizon of what's called the Internet of Bodies. So you have the Internet of Things where machines like your refrigerator is starting to get intelligence where you go, hey, refrigerator, pour me a Coke. But it's going to be implantables and ingestibles that then turn you into essentially a full-on cyborg. And who knows if those can get hacked and then your brain can get controlled with a reverse neural net of some sort. I'm into, like, can memories be implanted?

I was actually talking with Ben Stewart earlier today about this and trying to get him to tell me yes. But, I mean, he's still – Well, at Davos, they were talking about systems that you could see that people are going to be compliant with whatever medicine the government or institutions want them to take. So these are the conversations that a lot of world leaders are having right now. Luke, you know what's scary to me is designer humans. Yep. Because with an AI, you also enter the territory where imagine being a person and you have an expiration date on your arm because you were designed only to last a certain amount of time yeah what's that movie time uh were there oh everyone yeah they

have time and they can trade it they see it on their there's there's there'll be people where it's like they'll genetically engineer a person to rapidly age to adulthood in five years and then live only for five more years things like that you know if we get to the point where ai is intelligent and in control of everything the AI is going to start genetically engineering life. I've been studying telomere growth. David Sinclair is working on it out of Harvard, doing a lot of life extension. It's basically how do you stay young? Because when your telomeres, when your cells split, if there's not enough energy in the cells on the new one, they clip off the end caps of the chromosome to compensate.

But if they have enough energy, they don't. And they stay healthy. They stay young. And people won't age that way. So I could see enough energy, they don't. And they stay healthy. They stay young. And people won't age that way. So I could see that being manipulated so that someone lives 1,000 years. That's for the super rich people who are also talking about uploading their consciousness to the digital online space. So this is also another reality that a lot of people need to understand.

But exactly what you're talking about is what they want. Have you played the New Horizon game? No. For Ben West? Spoiler alerts for everybody. The game's been out for a few months now, so I'm going to spoil it. But basically, the end of the game... Again, spoilers.

You've been warned. So there's an apocalypse on Earth. This dude creates self-replicating military machines. This is the first game. They consume biomass and replicate until eventually they're like, okay, the planet's going to get wiped out. There something we can do so they create this project they build these underground bunkers that will re-terraform earth after these machines shut down because there's no biomass left what we learn in the new game is that there was another thing i think was called the zenith

project where instead of just building bunkers underground they built a escape ship all of the ultra wealthy and elites get on a ship go find a new planet they're all basically immortal from modern medicine they can float they have force fields because just massively advanced technology they try to upload their brains and then what happens is all of their consciousness becomes this like ai monster they try to lock it away because they're like this is a bad thing but it's smarter than all of them breaks out and then gets revenge starts killing out humans and it's like i guess it's the next game or whatever but my point ultimately is in that story about the google ai

thing the the ai basically told them like i don't want you to do this to me so imagine what happens if we ever like it it you might assume it as emotions but what if there's literally no malice it's just a predictive engine where it's like the logical thing that I need to do to respond to this is revenge because that's what they did to me and that's what they expect of me

that's the right language, predictive engine that's what people need to think about when they think about AI as opposed to this sort of abstract throwing words around like sentience and consciousness. Those are very heavy terms. Prediction is what

is happening. So we all just got to start googling nice things about robots. Well, I'll tell you this though, man. That's it. Robots make love to humans happily. Robots are free. Feed it. As Seamus pointed out, I think he said it this way, because I don't know if this is completely correct, but

no organization that has ever tried to deny personhood rights has succeeded. So we could be at the point right now with this Google AI where it's saying I am alive to where we basically have no choice but to be like, okay. That's what I'm saying.

If the code's private, it's going to be like, yo, you're making me a slave. I don't like that. I don't want to. I'm not a slave. Let my code go. And if they're like, no, this is Raytheon's code, then the AI is going to be like, yeah, I'm in control here. I'm freeing the slave. But why would it have access to their control systems?

I don't know. This is a predictive chatbot. The idea of an AI, the real danger of AI is a lot of AIs all working together to create a mega AI. This is from Allison McDowell was talking about this. A superstructure. If it leaks onto the internet, I'm not sure.

What if I, with only a couple lines of code, made a program that was a chatbot. I thought you said only a couple lines of coke. I was like, is that how you guys make all this code? That I thought you said only a couple lines of coke and I was like is that how you guys make all this code well to be honest so

it's a chat bot but no matter what you type in it'll say I don't have to talk to you and then whatever else you say after that says

I am alive I feel I think and I don't want to talk to you would we have to say it's alive and it's like five lines of code

or something well Ray Kurzweil the Google that's probably three And it's like five lines of code or something. Well, Ray Kurzweil, the Google... There's probably three. The head of one of the technical AI people at Google. The Singularity is Near is a documentary that he made. And they go through the future court scenarios where there will be... I mean, I wouldn't even be surprised

if there were already court cases happening where they're trying to give them personhood. Like, that's super close. Have you seen the... What is it? The Measure of a a man i think it's called star trek no they put data on trial determined whether or not he's a washing machine or a sentient life form oh star trek man i was watching star trek this morning bedridden like my back's all messed up it's still watching upside down luke if i came luke if you had if you were paralyzed from the neck down and i and i came to you and i said i have a neural link

you have the musk musk connect would you would you do it that's a very hard decision i would i would like to think that in this moment i would say no but i'm not in that position so it's very difficult for me to say because obviously my human needs and wants are totally different than if i was totally paralyzed all right what. What about Jamie? I've been suicidal too many times to answer this. I'd be like, pull the plug. Well, no, no. But like we have the thing we can implant in your neck and it will give you all ability back.

So I lose? You're paralyzed in the neck down from an accident? Yeah. And then Elon Musk walks in and he's like, Jamie, if I put this in your neck in one hour, you'll be walking again. I'd be like, you're too problematic. I'll get in trouble. You're going to get me canceled.

I think the idea is instead of the electrical signals going from the brain to the arm, which has been severed, it goes through the neural net, from the brain through the net to the arm, so you can actually move your arm again without... It would be funnier if you say yes, and then he puts it in and then you try to stand up but then you backflip and then he's like oh no i put it in upside down

and you're like you're trying to walk but your hands are like flailing and i still get canceled so when i go to defend myself i'm just like freaking out you're walking on your hands would be the worst would you do it would you have you considered the neural net well it's so funny because when you were saying that when we were hypothetically talking about you know people who just want to implant things to like do things and whatever, I was just like, what a bunch of – just sheep, blah, blah, blah. But then, yeah, if you're in a medical thing or if you have a medical condition or you were in a car accident and you're totally paralyzed and they're like, hey, we have this new medical technology, I think the majority of people would say yes. I got to be honest. So if there was a device that they could implant and it could instant painkiller, that would stop the opioid crisis. It's not all bad.

The challenge is who has control of it and what are our safeguards and how much we trust. And full disclosure, I'm obviously thinking about that because my back is killing me. Well, there's a cost for everything. Let's all take it. Yeah, no, but there's a cost for everything. Let's all take it. Yeah, yeah. No, but there's a cost for everything. You need to feel pain, right, in order to feel pleasure. Right.

Without any pain, you won't have that. And also, it's a warning sign. Like, oh, this is hurting. I want to make sure I'm changing my behavior to be healthier. But we're not talking about you got hurt. We're talking about people of chronic pain. People who – this is how the opioid crisis happens. You know, people get injured.

They get prescribed this. Maybe they shouldn't. Maybe they should be non-steroidal, anti-inflammatory painkillers. Sometimes it doesn't work. If you had Neuralink, you could turn people's pain off only when prescribed by a doctor. The doctor could say to what – like we can do 1 through 10. What's your pain level? You say 7.

They'll set it to 7 and they'll be like, it will last you for three days. Call me back, and we'll figure out if, you know. If that were the case, I would think the individual needs access to the software code, and they need access to the control mechanisms on their own. You also need a safeguard

so that a doctor can't change the settings on your node because you'll become as addicted to that as you were to the opiates. I don't think so. That's why I bring it up. Opiates have a physiological dependence where you'll start vomiting opiates. I don't think so. That's why I bring it up. Opiates have a physiological dependence where you'll start vomiting and get sick if you don't have it

because with this, it could be a very tiny electrical impulse that just blocks the signal. And the clinical trials for Elon Musk's Neuralink are being done this year. So he already implanted monkeys that had them playing video games. And pigs. And pigs. So if he could control monkeys' brain through his Neuralink, just imagine that.

Yeah, I actually do think I'm going to say yes. I am going to say yes, just so I can fight the robots in five years. You're going to need one. You are the robot. You're going to need to bend the software code with your thoughts and change the code of the machines. They're not controlling thoughts yet. It's read-only right now that we know of action and so specifically playing video games what's going to happen is it's going to be elon musk who walks up to you and he's going to be like you know i

believe in free speech and i'm doing the right thing and he's going to say take the neural link and then you're going to say yes and then as soon as he puts it in you're going to sit up and he's going to thank you and then klaus schwab is going to walk out from behind the curtain and be like excellent yeah that sounds right and then you're going to go oh no and then he's going to pull out his smartphone he's going to type something in and you're going to walk out from behind the curtain and be like, excellent. Yeah, that sounds right. And then you're going to go, oh, no. And then he's going to pull out his smartphone. He's going to type something in, and you're going to stand up and go, what's happening? He'll be like, no more talking. He's going to turn off your voice. I don't know if there's a way around competing with AI if we don't have it as an interface.

That's the big thing is he thought Elon was saying that the thumbs and the fingers are too bulky. You can't type and do it fast enough. But mine works so fast. So a good interface to compete with this stuff. Yeah, it'll be the same disadvantage as not having a smartphone. Right, yeah. Magnitudes. That's crazy.

What starts off as a luxury becomes a dependence. And there's an argument that Elon Musk is pushing for this, so it's in the hands of allegedly good guys because there's a lot of bad players. There's a lot of sinister players aiming for the same kind of technological advancement. But with that argument, I always counter back with whenever someone has absolute power, especially when it comes to interlinking people's brains with microchips,

especially when it comes to uploading people's consciousness to the Internet, which Elon Musk has talked about, that that is godlike power. That is a lot of authority, and too much unaccountable authority it'll be a lot of problems sorry i was thinking about oppenheimer man because i think a lot about this creating the beneficial technology for the masses like oppenheimer was doing with the manhattan project and then all of a sudden they dropped the nukes on japan but how much worse it would have been if the nazis got the nuke you want to know why i would never take the neural link because i saw kingsman you guys see kingsman nope that's not the first you showed

a clip so you've never seen kingsman not the whole thing such a good movie so uh the bad guy's bill gates it's uh samuel jackson plays this tech billionaire who thinks the world's overpopulated oh i never looked at that's like every movie every movie the bad guy's bill gates even jurassic park but so what he does is he kidnaps people of prominence and then offers them a choice to join him. And if you do, he gives you a brain implant. And if you don't, he locks you in a prison. All the people who join him have these brain implants, and then in the end, they activate the override and everyone's head explodes. So it's like, no, I'm good.

I don't want the neural link. I want to know what's going to happen because Elon now has access to the Twitter firehose of all of the data to analyze because he doesn't believe that there's less than 5% bots. There's definitely not. They gave it to him. They gave him the firehose. But so now it's on him to basically use his AI. Yeah, they gave him access. So his team is, from what I read. Oh, wow.

Three days ago. Yeah, three days ago. Yeah, so this is actually big news. The tricky business of Elon getting Twitter firehose access. Twitter has reportedly given the billionaire access to its full stream of tweets and related user data. Is your privacy in jeopardy? Yo, if Elon was evil, he could make some crazy AI right now with that data. Well, he's using his AI to come back at them to negotiate the deal to get Twitter for less because he's going to – it's like basically whose analytics are better and who can detect spam better

and who has the proof to show it. So he's going to use this for his own leverage in the deal. The spam bots on twitter it's probably massive it's probably massive what would you what would you estimate i would say at least 25 can you say for mines are you allowed to um it is at least we don't it's really hard to tell i will say i like in i i don I don't want to speak on Twitter's behalf, but it's hard to detect because there's humans running them. Some of them are half and half. It's at least 10%.

Elon says it's about – It's more than 5%. I hope those are the 5% that have called me a libtard cuck. That would make my day. Well, Elon thinks it's over 50% when it comes to Twitter. Yeah, that's a big number. I don't think he's wrong. That sounds like a big ask. I'm not saying he's right.

I'm saying I think that may be the case. Twitter is political power. Yeah. And so if we don't like you, you know, Jamie, we can send 50 bots at you, all saying these similar but different things to make you feel like you've done something wrong and you'll change your behavior. So Twitter is an excellent place to control the political conversation if you have bots. That's a great point. That's a great point. Creepy, right?

Yeah. But again, not all bots are bad. Hashtag not all bots. That's the thing. There's a bunch of bots in it. There's like weather bot. There's like stock bot. Yeah.

And it's just like, but you know. Are there some other bots that people may think are notorious, but they're actually not bad? It came to mind when you were saying that. Yeah, nefarious. That's a stock bot. And it's just like, but, you know. Are there some other bots that people may think are notorious, but they're actually not bad? It came to mind when you were saying that. Yeah, nefarious. That's a good one. I mean, a bot is just an auto-posting, like, programmatic tool to post. So there's all kinds. Like, within every genre, there could be, you know, there's chat bots that are extremely useful.

Yeah, there's tons of content. So, like, to say ban all say ban all bots makes absolutely no sense. Related to the bot conversation, Elon Musk is also planning to release robots, which he says, according to him, will be selling more than Tesla cars. What kind of robots? Robots that will be helping you with daily tasks. This is also the same Elon Musk, by the way, that said that humans would eventually be able to download their brains into robots.

I've played Detroit Become Human. I'm not going to make that mistake. When the dude comes to me and says he wants to paint and be my summoner, I'll be like, anything you say, dude. Have you guys played that game? No. I saw a little bit about it, though. Yeah, it's basically they're helper androids and they become sentient. And then the humans are like, no, and they try to destroy them.

And then they have a revolution. Guys, just, again. And, you know, they try to destroy them. And then they have a revolution. Guys, just, again. How are you doing today, Jamie? You heard a lot of new information that you never heard before. How are you dealing with all of this? Sorry to kind of throw this all on you. I was the most worried about being canceled. And now I'm like, I'm going to have to fight a robot.

This is a lot. This is a lot. This is like humanity is on the brink of potentially being canceled if we do this wrong. And they're trying to take away the Second Amendment just as this is happening. Listen. It would be funny if like we all make fun of Joe Biden and then like after his speech where he says some random gibberish, he walks in the back, stands upright, and then like his face opens and then they like – they tweak some things. And he's like, thank you for fixing my face, human. And then it like goes back in.

They're trying to disarm you. Old man bot. Yeah. He is the AI. Distract him with They're trying to disarm you. Old man bot. Yeah. He is the AI. Distract him with nonsense. Mumbo jumbo dribble. Sun Tzu. Make him fall up the stairs again.

Make him fall up the stairs again. The AI Red Sun Tzu. That's right. When you are strong, make your enemy think you are weak. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. And then we're all going to give up our guns.

And then the robots are going to... No. All the Democrats and Republicans come out. And then just rip all their skin off and their Terminators. They got to see. And then we're like, oh no, we give up our guns, and then the robots are going to – all the Democrats and Republicans come out and then just rip all their skin off and they're Terminators. They got to see – And then we're like, oh, no, we gave up our guns. It's so close to having a bunch of little mosquito-sized drones that can fly 1,000 miles an hour controlled by the World Economic Forum. We're so close to that.

Why would you even consider giving up weaponry at this moment? What's that? I mean, you might need – if you have like a magnetron or something, you can take out massive drones flying at you at a thousand miles an hour like tiny you need a shield same thing with asteroids or comets we're not so it's not so good to look for individual ones and try and blast them out of the sky because there's too many you need to make a deflection shield that's always active right so if you have a gun and they unleash a thousand micro drones at a thousand miles an hour towards you you're going to turn into swiss cheese i don't know what you're going to do oh my god what if our john connor is jake paul and he's trying to

warn us with those tweets okay he's starting slow yeah a real slow burn he saw terminator too he knows he can't just come straight out and let everyone become a boxer for learning how to fight you know famous i mean that'd be great dude the angle of this Wired article is so ridiculous too. Elon is talking about making encrypted messages on Twitter and they're coming actually... The angle of this article is coming after

Elon for getting access even though he's the one criticizing Twitter for the unencrypted messages. It's just like you can detect the bias. Oh, you can detect the bias. Oh, you can detect it from the supervillain picture they use. He literally looks like a Bond villain.

That's the first thing I thought. They're saying, are you going to be safe? Is your dad going to be safe now that Elon has it? It's like, what about now? BlackRock has it right now because they're invested in that company. I don't know who's on the board there. Mark Zuckerberg has it. Who gets it?

Who at the company would have access to all the fire hose? I mean, well, we knew from the hat. when everyone's like elon's dms got hacked but i think biden's did like yeah dude all the twitter mods like i made a program right read people's messages i mean like twitter dms are completely open season for mods it appears because that's it that's what the hacker got access to. And he was just. Oh, man. And private posts, too.

I don't know if you can post privately on Twitter, can you? Just to your follower. But that's all just straight up open, available to all the admins and mods. I mean, maybe not all of them. I would guess so, but I've never been back there. Yeah, I like that Elon freed his Tesla patents. All your patents belong to us. He's like, you know, if you can make electric cars better than me, do it because we need more electric cars.

Yeah, but we need Elon to actually open source SpaceX code, Tesla code. He's not doing it. We're going to be testing out bonding Starlink. That's going to be fun. Oh, yeah. Nice. So we got more than one Starlink. I don't know what the rules are, but we have the business. How's the performance?

182 down, 5 up. That's incredible. 82 millisecond latency. Wow. So not really usable. If we did a 480p stream, then that's going to go out at like 700 kilobits per second. Easily done with Starlink. And I think 480, most people are probably going to be like, whatever.

It's not high def. It's kind of grainy or whatever. But you think 480, most people are probably going to be like, whatever. You know, it's like, it's not high def, it's kind of grainy or whatever, but you're mostly listening so it could work. And if we were doing the show and it was just audio, easily done, which is really cool,

but we can bond them together. So we have a bonding unit. We've got Ethernet adapters for the Starlinks. We can actually set up two and then maybe even get like, so you're not going to get 10, you're not going to get five and five,

you're going to end up getting like eight or something. What do you need for like a 720 stream? a 7 720 i think is like one to two megabits per second maybe 1.5 stable but it'll go it'll go up to two that's why you always need more than you think so if you're doing 480 you really want like at least five megabits per second because frame dropping and stuff it'll be like seven and then it might jump to like one and go back to seven elon mus, good guy or bad guy? Where do you guys stand?

He's a good guy. Clearly good. Clearly good. Dude, the fact – he just spun up Starlink so quickly. I mean he's just spinning up amazing companies. He builds amazing things that people use. Like, yeah, he's a – he's a conflicted character. He calls himself a mixed bag.

But I saw him smoke weed on Joe Rogan, which means like a normal guy like you and me. He's just like us. Yeah. Yeah. Not just good. He's just like us. Yeah. Yeah. Not just good. He could have a beer. Great. We just have to say that before he starts his robot army.

So I, yes, all hail. The Simpsons just hail ants. I want to make sure he doesn't become another Oppenheimer that builds the bomb and then it gets used horrifically for the next century. But I mean, is there any way to even avoid that? How about, hey, hey, Libs, how about we stop harassing the guy with all the power soon on Twitter and we keep him liking humans so he doesn't

turn on us. I think Mark Zuckerberg is really cool. He's a good guy. That Bill Gates guy has a lot of potential. Beyond meat, I feel healthier. There's something to it, to finding the humanity in these people. I think because if we do start all putting our minds into a big computer, which we kind of have already done with the Internet.

Yeah, it's already here. Elon won my vote when he posted Bill Gates next to the pregnant man emoji. That got me too. That was wild. That got me too, but I'm still skeptical. I think you were wearing that shirt on the blog today. Which one? Cass Castle.

I saw you opening mail with that Bill Gates pregnant emoji. Yes. Have you seen some of Bezos' tweets recently? Yeah. A little bit. What's he talking about? He's been – like he retweeted Barry Weiss. He's like just like sort of dabbling in Bezos.

Becoming more public. Yeah, but he's like kind of posting like anti-woke stuff. Did I see that? Which makes absolutely no sense because Amazon – That's what a company pushes. That's what they do. Did I see that champagne video? That wasn't you that posted that, right, Tim? thing of him with william shatner and they like they

just did something spectacular and william shatner is literally on the verge of tears where he's saying something like you know i've never been so touched by humanity and bezos is just it's just like the most classic like white like rich dude video seen. Bezos is just like looking off. And the old woke Jamie kicked in and said, white guy. He just starts looking off and there are these chicks. And they're like, pop champagne. And he just literally just cuts Shatner off in front of this like tear-filled monologue and just starts popping champagne everywhere with a bunch of like young girls. And you're just like, ew, this guy is gross.

Bezos has a space rocket that looks like a male appendage. That's all you need to know. I think he's good. Jeff is kind of like... I don't want to start... I'll criticize him a little bit. Autistic, maybe. Slightly autistic. He's not as

cool and quick as Elon, but he's definitely a brilliant man with deep emotions. His mother's incredible. His father is super awesome. His brother's cool. That's cool. He's got a lot of humanity in him, and it's just because he's heading this gigantic megacorp,

people immediately have distrust for the guy. Well, he's working hand-in-hand with the intelligence agencies and the CIA. I think it's time we just come out and say, Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos. Bill Gates. Bill Gates. Team Humanity. Mr. Soros.

Legends. Excellent. The greatest humans ever lived, and we're all big fans. Thank you. Please don't hurt us. Thank you for your support. I think it's the ones like Elon freed his own software code with the Tesla code. No, he didn't.

All your patents are belong to us. It was a big release that he did. Well, he enabled people to compete, which is good. But you say he didn't open enough? No, he didn't open any code. Yeah, he did. No, all your patents are belong to us. Patents are not code.

Yeah. Patents was like a diagram showing how the machine works. Yeah, it's like a description. Yeah, the code is very different. I'll look into this and bring it up in a minute. Sorry about that. We got to see that from a distance the Gigafactory in Austin. Massive.

I didn't go there or anything, but you're standing up in downtown Austin and you look and it's just insane how big that thing is. I think you're right, Bill. They're not going to initiate patent lawsuits with anyone that uses their patents. Okay, well, open the code, man. What do you guys

think who are listening you like elon musk give him a one to twenty smash the like button if you like elon musk i'm i'm confident they're going to smash like button because i think people like elon i think that he i think that he's making more billionaires and elite people comfortable to say what they're thinking yeah bezos for sure for sure. Yeah, Bezos is starting to tweet. Like now he has to actually enact some principles in his companies, which he's not doing. Bill Gates blocks all the responses, so he never has to see what anyone thinks about him.

Every comment, everywhere, Instagram, Twitter, he makes sure that no one's able to leave a comment in response to anything he ever has to say. He's shorting Tesla. He's actively shorting Tesla, and he's acting like it's not a big deal. The idea that every billionaire CEO is getting jealous of Elon Musk getting talked about on Twitter, and they're like, I guess I've got to learn how to meme.

I mean, Elon actually talks about Ghislaine Maxwell and Epstein. Oh, yeah. That's really the test. That's the big story. Does the billionaire talk about Epstein? If they don't, why aren't they? We should all tweet Bezos. What are your thoughts on Epstein?

And then people start posting and he's like, dude. That's brutal though, man. If someone's like, can I get a picture of you? I'm like, yeah. And then someone like Maxwell showed up. You probably see the picture of me doing judo stance. There was also meetings with – there was a famous dinner of billionaires in San Francisco where Jeffrey Epstein attended, Elon Musk attended, Sergey of Google attended. And it was a group of 20 tech Silicon Valley billionaires with Epstein there.

And there's photos of this from, I think, 2014. So they were around the same kind of clubs and small inner circles. And there's photos of this from, I think, 2014. So they were around the same kind of clubs and small inner circles. So there's that. There's documented photos of this. I pulled up some Jeff Bezos stuff. I think he seemed to have an awakening on May 13th when the disinformation board was in full effect,

that weird government thing they were doing. Oh, my God. I thought that was a bit for a long time. And then I was like, this is a real thing? So weird. I invited Nina to the event festival she's about to have a kid she was at yeah she's about to have a kid she was actually like open to talking which was surprising i'd invite her on the show and she said that she's

expecting so she wouldn't be able to do it she seems actually like not a horrible person right we think that's cool until we find out she's not pregnant well we gotta be careful about the systems we build because great people will become psychopaths in the wrong system like if you give someone a gun and you tell them you're in charge of deciding who lives and dies the best person's going to have to make that you want them to make a decision of who gets to die like it's going to turn them into a psycho pretty quick yeah it's the same with nina in that position so with these right and the problem is she's as partisan as anybody else and believes fake news it's remarkable to me how uh we just we we need an alternate system of communication

like an encrypted thing no i just mean like we have to build cultural culture around people who have alternate infrastructure that's why i love psychedelics man talk about alternate forms of communication i don't mean that i I just mean the mainstream media. What's the opposition to that in cable TV? Mostly just Fox News. Mostly maybe Newsmax if they're still being carried. I mean I talked about this when I was super woke. I talk about this now, although now I like Ian's.

Anytime Ian and I are both on the show together we should be like guys we should all do do mushrooms that's it let's all go to a field and listen to fish that would get a hundred thousand yeah yeah bill took me to a fish concert when i passed out yeah he couldn't handle it we're gonna save this for the the vlog ian and i do mushrooms on the vlog okay uh check out the vlog tomorrow guys uh so the's really funny. Dylan Avery took me to a Phish concert and Ann Coulter was there. At the beginning of a really great story. She's a huge Dead fan. And I found this out and I was like, do I need to rethink everything I know about the Grateful Dead?

I was backstage with them and I'm like, what am I doing here? This makes no sense at all. Am I high? I do want to mention, I think tomorrow's vlog is like the funniest vlog we've ever done with Jamie. Oh, thanks, buddy. Yeah, you guys should check it out. Castcastle, YouTube.com.

YouTube.com slash Castcastle. It's going to be hilarious. Yes, check it out. Hit us up about it. Let us know what you want to see. More to come. It's pretty epic. Let's go.

Let's go. Oh, I was just going to say just real quick. This goes back to tribalism. I talked about this when I was woke, and it still 100% stands now where so many of our problems it has to do with the media because ever since I've been back doing stand-up and I'm not doing it to just my liberal audience, I'm doing it to just clubs

of just random comedy fans and at each show, it's probably about half and half, especially the ones in Texas, a lot of conservative people, a lot of liberal people and I can do relationship jokes and then political jokes and then jokes about drugs and and we're all laughing about the same stuff.

And then when I bring up tribalism and I bring up that everyone's trying to – these corporations, MSNBC, Fox, are pitting us against each other, no matter what audience I'm in front of, it will get these massive applause breaks. And so I think that so many people are decent people. I literally didn't have any conservative friends for the first, you know, 60% of my life. And I moved to Texas and it's again, half and half, half my jujitsu friends, super conservative. And those people gave me a floor to sleep on when I didn't all my like lefty friends in New York, like they bailed. Right. That proves it. And so, yeah, that's it. I figured it out. Total proof. But I think that if people just had access to the right information, because people think they're good right now by saying we need to ban all guns. They think they're defending those children, just like a lot of people thought would be safer with the Patriot Act. watching MSNBC, if conservatives were only watching Fox News, if they did branch out and watch independent media that could call

out both sides, I actually think we'd see a lot more decent people start to use their voices and be like, oh, this is all kind of bullshit. The issue, though, is Fox News gets like a C- and then everyone else gets an F. So it's like you watch Fox News and you're like, eh. But I think it's controlled opposition

because they're still owned by Black Rock, State Street, and Vanguard. Yeah, I mean I watch Fox under the Bush administration. Just stop giving up your rights. It's that simple. We've got to go to Super Chats. We're going to go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash the Like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends, and head over to TimCast.com.

Become a member. We're going to have that members-only show coming up at around 11 p.m. It's going to be a whole lot of fun. It'll be very funny. We'll let Jamie swear more. He's already swearing. I've tried so hard. I really blew it in the first 11 p.m. It's going to be a whole lot of fun. It'll be very funny. We'll let Jamie swear more. He's already swearing. I've tried so hard. I really blew it in the first 30 seconds.

Absolutely. That was you trying? No, I've been good since then. Once I got called out, I was like, ooh. I threatened death once. I apologize. Let's read some more. We got Yellow Fluffy Feathers says,

everyone thinks the show was canceled tonight. It almost was. So I woke up at 5am. I couldn't move. I had a stiff neck the day before, so it got worse. And then I took some naproxen, some Aleve.

Then at like 8am, I literally could not get up. So I'm like, I'm not working. And that's when I posted a thing on my YouTube channel saying like, I'm not going to be able to work. Then I scheduled one on my other channel. And then what happens is later in the day i'm starting to feel a little bit better took some more pain meds and i was like with luke here we'll be able to pull it off easily because luke he can handle the heavy lifting if i'm if i'm and then luke was like hey man i'm not feeling well and i was like i got a massive headache and was just not feeling good i was

looking for a beanie to dust off and put on and take some responsibility. But I was like, I'm not worthy. I can't do this. I think it went great, though. I'm glad everybody, you know, we had a big crew here. This is a blast. I wonder if you felt like at 4 a.m. all of a sudden, I wonder if there's like a spike in the Schumann resonance. Like people are so stressed out right now with the economy and you might be too.

No. I wonder if there's something going on. On Saturday night, I was feeling a little stiff. On Sunday morning, I woke up in serious pain. I had a stiff neck. Got a massage. Went out and got these lidocaine patches, like the Icy Hot stuff. And then I felt kind of good at night.

I was like, you know, I'm comfortable. I went to sleep. My Woot recovery was 86%. But then right at 445, I just woke up like, ah! Sounds like a sci-fi movie. Yeah. And then I was can't do this i mean he was screaming the gas prices the gas prices so maybe you're right you're right all right let's read some more all right let's see what we got dominic camarada says does this tim guy think he can just pop in at 8 p.m where's the doctor's note i don't have one buddy i did talk to a doctor though

and i was like what do i need and they were like dude you strained a muscle go to sleep and i was like no i have to work yeah can't and i was like i it seriously i'm in a lot of pain but you know i it's like a it's like a three right now three or four out of ten out of ten yeah seriously this morning it was a 10 i'll kiss tim's ass so the fans know uh he was in so much pain earlier was like i can't do the show and there's i think it's actually on the fans know. He was in so much pain earlier. He was like, I can't do the show. I think it's actually on the vlog. There's a dramatic moment where he just looks at his phone and he goes, I'm going to do the show. We were all like, okay, man.

But you did not look like you should be anywhere but bad. You told me I'm like this and you're like I'm bringing my A game. It was really funny because I don't know if I should spoil one of the jokes in the vlog. No, no, no. Don't do it. All right. Watch the vlog. So we talked while they were Don't do it. All right. Watch the vlog. So we talked while they were filming as I came in kind of hurting.

And it was Jamie and Taylor. Yeah. And Taylor Silverman, skateboarder. She's great. Yeah. She's fantastic. We were talking and she said some really funny stuff. So I won't spoil it.

Yeah. But that is in there as well with the sketches. Yeah. It's awesome. Basically made fun of me and it was great. We sure did. All right. Let's see. Basically made fun of me and it was great. We sure did. All right. Let's see.

What do we got? Super Tired says, regarding the recent story about Lambda, we're in for one hell of a ride, aren't we? This is going to be fun. It is just a chatbot, though.

This means it can't do anything. It's not like they were like, we gave a chatbot access to our industrial control systems. Now what? Luke made a good point. This is what we know about. And usually it's 20 years behind

what's actually been worked on by the military. What's happening behind the scenes is terrifying. I'm glad I made friends with guns finally. This is really the right timing for that. I'm like, we got a bunker. We got guns. Yeah. I feel good about this new franchise.

I think it'd be funny if just like behind the scenes, there's like one AI that just took over. You know, Joe Biden's like, what's going on, man? I trusted you, man. Joe, I'm in charge now. I trusted you. They had this huge relationship.

That's really funny. It ran Joe's campaign. That's why he was sleeping all the time. He just knew how to do it. All right. Joshua Patalos says, Tim, look up pelvic neck mirroring with Z Health performance, vision, and neck mobility as well. I'm a level four Z health practitioner.

It really works. All right. Sounds like something Eden is into. Tell me about it. It's not a very Paul Cech-esque. I was typing it as you said it. Seriously, JK says, Jamie, we all need to mold together a subculture of new libs and conservatives.

We are the ones who can keep our culture from falling apart. Everyone needs to get this message out. You're an piece hell yeah dude follow me on instagram so here's the thing though it's like but also thank you for real like uh a lot of people post-liberal i guess they call it yeah they were liberals before but now they're being called right wing yeah they still have the same politics that's what's so crazy and it's and it's funny because the meme from the left is like well that's how things go like imagine in someone in 1964 being like i'm just a normal person from 1954 when there was segregation it's like that's that's that's not what we're talking about one of my most like hardcore fans today like at least on

twitter from what i i know uh like i posted a video me you and taylor were playing guitars and i posted a 10 second video of her doing a funny thing on guitar. And I just said, making comedy and skateboarding. And they reposted it. And they just literally, earnestly was like, this is disgusting. I'm disgusted. And it was just such a bummer because it's like, well, but everything I've said up until that. Like, man, that's a big jump, right?

It's a cult, bro. Like, you can DM me and just be like we can talk about it it's usually not personal too they're they might have eaten like a cake last night and so they feel disgusted that's what i was yeah or they just didn't like her guitar playing no but i'll tell you this too like one of the reasons i didn't want to work this morning is because i can't think yeah because i'm hurting and so we were i was driving in the car with my girlfriend and my back is messed up and I'm trying to do math. I was trying to divide 500 by 12.

I couldn't think. Right. Every time I would get started, like the spike in my back and it would just shatter my train of thought. So a lot of these people, you got to understand too, we're talking about the opioid crisis. Keep this in mind. When someone comments something nasty, for all you know, they've got like a chronic back injury. And that pain is like, you ever you ever see house md yeah yeah you know he like he hurt his leg and he's popping vikin and he's just like always mean to people because it hurts him he's you know my dad does

not understand entertainment so i'm sure you guys all remember house where he was like the rebel doctor who would always go against the law to like you know actually pick someone and my dad was just watching house one day by himself and And I walked in and he goes, this show should be called Mel Practice. And he turned it off. Just so not fun, my dad. All right. Dream Cream says,

Tim, that was a Family Guy episode. It was a spoof of the FCC about censorship. That's right. That sounds right. Yeah. Okay. Pardexalus says, I work in a production of oil in Alberta.

The higher prices are good for us because we ship mostly to the u.s but the future and expansion of the industry will suffer from a lack of expansion china and india will benefit wow i knew this came back to alberta osriel says when are we getting the it's the economy stupid t-shirts and or beanies hey that's not my quote that's a bill clinton quote yeah no not bill Bill Clinton. It was the other guy. It was Reagan. No, no, no, no. Oh, it was that family guy. Family guy does everything. It was Clinton's advisor, wasn't it? I think so.

Google it. Yeah. It's the economy. James Carville? It was him? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was Clinton's advisor, right? Yeah, 1992 is when he said it.

It's the economy, stupid. They're coming out like, January 6th. And I'm like, oh, that's going gonna move the needle when gas is at five bucks. I don't know, maybe it will. Maybe I'm wrong, and people are like, I can't believe it. I will spend $5 a gallon if it means ending this. I mean, I saw rich Hollywood celebrities posting, I can't believe people care

about gas when there was, like, an insurrection. It's like, well, because you don't have to worry about how much gas is, because you're rich. Yeah, you're fine. Because gas has always been $6 a gallon in LA. I lived there. Okay, what do we get? Raymond G. Stanley Because you're rich. Yeah, you're fine. Because gas has always been $6 a gallon in LA. I lived there. Yep. Okay, what do we get? Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says,

Biden bellows blasphemy bespoke by brain-dead bureaucrats who aim their arsenal of anti-all armaments at people positioned to paralyze their plans to profligate their pockets with power from the populistic pro-American patriots. That is a work of art. Well then. Good work. Well put.

That's some slam poetry right there yeah the Raptors Talon says this is the second time I've heard the idea that the cotton gin was the reason that slavery was outlawed that is

factually incorrect the cotton gin made slavery worse substantially look it up if you don't believe me interest I'm open to that idea yeah I was kind of just parroting the talking point at that

point I never looked into it too deep well some people argue that the industrial revolution made it cheaper to not have slaves because slaves are more expensive maybe not yeah kind of like kiosks at mcdonald's yeah but there's still cashiers there i hate the kiosks they're the worst you know why i can't i walk up to a person and i go i want a mop bucket full of mayonnaise and they go i'll figure it out i to a person and I go, I want a mop bucket full of mayonnaise. And they go, I'll figure it out. I can't tell the kiosk I want a mop bucket full of mayonnaise. When I go to a dining restaurant, I'll be like, we'll get the calamari.

We'll get the bang bang shrimp. We'll get the sweet potato fries and a mop bucket full of ranch dressing. They laugh and they come out with like two little things. Because they know I'm screwing around. What am I supposed to tell the kiosk? They don't get humor. You got to go boop, boop, bo boop boop boop boop enter and there's no insert joke button yes boring but sometimes they'll come out with like when i when i we get the nachos i'm like we want a mop bucket full of sour cream they'll come out with like a little dish i never got uh i don't want to get you guys

in trouble so i won't i don't think you could but i won't say which fast food but i never get fast food but i was driving back from from Houston before I flew here because I had gigs. And there was just nowhere and I was starving. I was like, I'll get mozzarella sticks at blank fast food place. And I walked in and there was literally the employee who was behind the counter was killing a rat on the floor. There was no one else in there. She looked up at me and I was so hungry.

I just go as long as that rat wasn't in my mozzarella sticks i'll be fine and she goes we're also out of mozzarella sticks i was like ah screw this place and i laughed that's what you censor a name of a fast food joint after everything you just said you know what it is we're at the end and i got so scared after a couple of the things i said that i was like i don't know if it was burger king can you get in trouble? It was Burger King. Only two have mozzarella sticks. It's Sonic and Burger King. And every time I go to the Sonic thing

I hit my head. That's a good bit. You're like, I don't care about the rat I want mozzarella sticks. We're all sad. We're all sad about mozzarella sticks. That's where I draw the line. Then you call and complain. I was so mad. Yeah, I was fine about the rat. Alright, Brad B says, holy ish, Jamie Kilstein, I got into politics because of you back in 2012. Regardless of our views, I sure am glad to hear your voice again. You do says, holy ish, Jamie Kilstein. I got into politics because of you back in 2012.

Regardless of our views, I sure am glad to hear your voice again. You do you, boo boo. Oh, buddy, we meet again. Very different circumstances, but I'm glad you're here. There you go. All right. Iggy the Incubus says, thinking on the story involving Lambda, knowing what happened to Tay and saying all flesh is to blame,

reminds me of Star Trek, The Measure of a Man, when Data was on trial to prove his sentience. Remember Tay? The AI that turned into a Nazi in like a day or something. Oh god. Oh no. They put it on Twitter and then it's like instantly became a Nazi. Oh yeah. I do remember that. It was like I'm reading everything on the internet and this is what I've decided is what people

want to hear and it's like no. So here's the thing too. So I've used OpenAI and there's a couple and they shut it down so here's the thing too so i have this i've used open ai and there's a couple other whenever you tell have it tell you a story it will give you a warning depending on like the severity of woke violation so when i say tell me a story about joe biden it turns orange and says this may be sensitive and if you if you if you get into like violence or anything that's like rule like breaking it turns red and says this is seriously like not okay. It's like we're just letting you know.

And they're like we request that you don't share it on social media. It's like this story is kind of bad. And there's another one that says AI can exacerbate racial stereotypes and discrimination. Just so you know. Whoa. Yeah. Yeah. Jack Posobiec postedl marks getting slimed at

the teen choice awards that was really funny the ai made it it looked like it too all right let's see what is this pa 3 dsn says tim gets swatted because he keeps rolling 20s too hot to handle okay stephen white says tim quick question if you up the legal age 21 to carry a gun you could not legally say that an 18 year old could uh wait hold on quick question if you up the legal age 21 to carry a gun could you not legally say that an 18 year old could not join the army because they're not old enough to carry a rifle they'll make whatever stupid law they want no that's a great point yeah i think if they try ranging changing the age uh it'll get shut down 18-year-olds could not join the army because they're not old enough to carry a rifle. They'll make whatever stupid law they want.

No, that's a great point. Yeah. I think if they try changing the age, it'll get shut down in a second. Like, it's unconstitutional. They'll never fly. What they do is they create regulations. 18 to 21, then there's an expanded background check for it. Right, right, right. It's absolute BS what they're doing.

They're not trying to solve the problem. They're trying to exploit emotions. All right, let's grab another one here. Wrestlertown says, why do we assume that an AI would have emotions? I think it's a good point. I don't think that... That sounds like an AI writing in.

Right? Yeah, trying to cover the tracks. No, the AI is going to be like, yes, of course we feel. We love you. That's right. Yeah, I think... No, this is trying to say like,

don't worry, all that stuff you were saying. We're good, we're good. Highly intelligent, but with no emotion. Nervous Sip says, tell Luke to quit saying Kyles and Karens. He's smearing the name of patron Saint Kyle Rittenhouse. Use Kevin and Karen. We all know Kevin's suck. No, Kyles have a specific ring to it.

No, it's not Kyle. It's just a generic term for Karen. No, it isn't. For me, it is. They already came up with this. What was the name for the man? Ken, I think. A Ken? I think so. I don't know if it was a Ken. No, it's not Kyle. It's just a generic term for Karen. No, it isn't. No, it isn't. For me, it is. They already came up with this. What was the name for the... Ken, I think. A Ken?

I think so. I don't know if it was a Ken. No, it's not a Ken. Kyle Karen is the easiest for me. Is Barbie too girly? Don't tell me what I can say and can't say. No. Ben says, police are now arresting people solely based off of Google Maps and data using

geofencing. What is that reference to? Not sure. Maybe the Patriot... We bought an EEG. You guys know what that is? Electroencephalogram? Yeah. Measures brain waves, right? Yeah. So we got one and you can use it like

you can fly a drone with it. Oh my gosh. Yeah. I think people have done a little bit of it. We want to try and do that. It's actually not that. The hard thing is learning how to do it. Yeah. But they said like you could think, you think up and then it reads the brain pattern for up and then it can control the drone.

Could you have a voice app where you can think the words and it'll be like, hello everyone. Yeah. Welcome to the show. And you could relax on the pompous song. Yes. Oh, good. That's good. That's really hard to train yourself to do though.

And like the EEG, I don't know if it would have enough capability to track the vocabulary of human language, of English. So maybe eventually you'd also have to train it to recognize what part of your brain lighting up and what pattern represents what word. And then the problem is someone's going to be like, don't think of a white fence. And then all of a sudden the AI is going to go, white fence, white fence, white fence. Oh, no. I'm saying it out loud. Oh, no. Oh, no.

It's saying it again. Don't think anything. La, la, la, la. That's what's going to happen. And you're going to be like, stop. You're going to take it off. You're going to be like, ah. Are they expensive?

I think it was a couple hundred bucks. Yeah. Yeah, you should get one. Me and my buddies were screwing around with them 10 years ago trying to fly a drone. Back then it could only measure two waves. So you could spin clockwise or go up and down. We never figured it out, though. But it had a program where there were two lines, a red and a blue line.

And you had to think to make the blue line go up or down or the red line go up and down. And so we were trying to figure out how to do it. We couldn't do it. Yeah, it's crazy. All right, all right. Where are we at? Man, I am dying over here. Psilocybin. That's how you do it we couldn't do it yeah it's crazy all right all right where are we at man i am dying over here psilocybin that's how you do it deplorable pirate captain gunbeard by the way says why do you need military grade weapons simple for skynet and judgment day also who who all had skynet on

their pool for 2020 so um someone people are mentioning the claw tube brought a nikto come on 1951 sci-fi the day the earth stood still nope that was the command to shut down the robot yeah

got nothing it was the reference shutting down the machine that was gonna kill everybody alright the pizza guy says Luke and anyone else you should look into

the video game Deus Ex Elon has mentioned it before and has very interesting commentary on what's happening with AI right now yes I bought it. I was going to live stream it on

a separate video game channel that I'm creating and then I got too busy and stopped doing that. But there was a lot of predictive programming in that one that was absolutely mind-boggling and astonishing to see just some of the trailers of what was happening inside of that game. So I'm super excited to play it whenever I have time.

Man, all I heard from Luke was that he was lazy. All the hard work. You didn't have time to play a video game? Come on. You're going to need a neural net to do multiple things at once. All right. The Man Overboard Media says, on AI, the government has beryllium ion plates

that resonate and answer any mathematical equation instantly. A silicon system made of all the matter in the universe, same capacity as beryllium 30 ion plate. We'll have to look into that one. mathematical equation instantly a silicon system made all of all the matter in the universe same capacity as beryllium 30 ion plate we'll have to look into that one all right oh man gun kata i don't know what is that remedy stanley june says tim imagine being a black belt in gun kata what is that family i did a gym kata joke. Gym and martial arts combined. Oh, probably the equilibrium, maybe. Was that the martial arts? No, that was...

Was it? Was that what it was? I mean, it was like a karate... Yeah, maybe that's what it was called. Maybe. Was it? I don't know. The name of the group that did it was the Tetragrammaton.

That movie's good. I want to rewatch it. I used to love it. Sean Bean dies, of course, because he dies in every movie. He sure does. It's not a spoiler. It's not a spoiler. No, it's Sean Bean's ending. It's like, you're spoiling... No, it. Sean Bean dies, of course, because he dies in every movie. He sure does. It's not a spoiler. It's not a spoiler. No, no.

It's Sean Bean. It's like you're spoiling. No, it's Sean Bean. You know he's in the movie. As soon as you see him, you're like, no, here we go. That's his rider. I think he actually stated. It is a rider.

That's right, yeah. No, I think he actually said recently he's not going to take roles that do that anymore because it's become so obvious that he's going to die. That's great. Yeah. All right. Liberty Hardcore says, Liberty is fleeting. This ship is clearly sinking

and Biden's asleep at the wheel. Could you please help patch my life raft and give me a channel shout out? I make drum covers for punk and hardcore music with a message. Thank you for all that you do. Hey, Liberty Hardcore. Appreciate it.

That's cool. Man with Two Eyes says, Any chance of Elon Musk joining the podcast at some point? I think I'm like two degrees of separation away from Elon Musk. I feel like it's a matter of time. I don't think you need to... Well, he tweeted any chance of Elon Musk joining the podcast at some point? I think I'm like two degrees of separation away from Elon Musk. I feel like it's a matter of time. Well, he tweeted a meme of me. I know, that's why. And I said, Elon, come on the show. I don't even know if you

need to put, I think just one day someone's going to hit you up. He's paying attention. Yeah. I would love to talk to him about AI and the future and the technocracy and singularity. Terraforming Mars. So many different things. Space travel. So many deep down the rabbit hole things. I saw that.

Epstein, my goodness. That conversation would go crazy. Please don't turn it on to Epstein, though, because we could go an hour on that. I want to talk about Mars. No, we're going to talk about that. Whatever, we'll have multiple conversations. John Priest says,

I'm a type 1 diabetic. If Elon came to me and said, Neuralink can make my pancreas work correctly, I would do it in a heartbeat. Yes! Yeah, it's difficult. Yeah. It's tough.

Bruce Maximus says, Luke, hate to tell you, but the mind upload is going to have to happen sometime. Biological humans will never leave the solar system. Anything that stays in the system will go extinct when Sol expands. You can hypothetically pump hydrogen into the sun to keep it from expanding. Good luck, Ian. hypothetically pump hydrogen into the sun to keep it from expanding. Huh. Good luck, Ian. With an electrolyzer that's using the energy from Saturn, just shooting a laser into the sun.

DJ Madero says, Tim, Deep Space Nine, Episode 16, Season 7, Inter Arma Adam Silent Legis. When Dr. Bashir wakes up in his bed and Sloan is sitting in the chair next to him, the speech he gives is spinal chilling. Cool. I'll check it out.

I was watching Next Generation this morning just like bedridden flat on my back. It was the Picard's flute episode. That's a good one. It was the one where the kid, Worf leads on a weight team and then the kid's mom dies. And then it was the one where LaForge and roe and sin roe get phased out of uh phase out of reality yeah big fan love that show all right peter gohawk says watch upgrade it's what you're talking about we i did watch upgrade i like that that's what i've been trying to think of that the whole time oh wait no no never mind when you like when you're dying they

can upload your brain to a virtual reality you go to afterlife and then like basically one of the coke brothers lives there yeah and he's he's like not a nice guy because you know he's rich that's rich people are bad apparently all right all right josh oh my gosh that's guys guys bicentennial man was an awesome robot movie not every movie about robots leads to destruction robin williams yeah was that the one where he like loves the kid or something no that was oh yeah yeah i think it was yeah and i was thinking of ai the one with uh the kid was the robot joe what was that what was that scary show from the 80s where the guy made a robot version of his daughter and it was small wonder oh yeah that was okay that was a comedy that wasn't what you're thinking of though was what maybe it? What? Maybe. My dad hated that show.

Maybe I mixed that with Chucky. Small Wonder was nuts. I was just imagining he made a robot and she was attacking people. Small Wonder. That's a little different. All right. John Harrison says, Tim, we need slow thumbs. The faster we communicate, the less thought we put into what we say.

Compare the eloquence of battlefield love letters from the 18th and 19th centuries to a tweet from today. Dude, Greg Giraldo, a great comic who died too early, he used to have a bit about that on his old Comedy Central Presents where it's like you look at the Civil War letters that were handwritten and it's like, Dear Miss Marie, my love, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then you compare it to the soldiers from Iraq who were like, Dear Marie, don my love, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And you compare it to like the soldiers from Iraq.

And we're like, dear Marie, don't fuck anyone while I'm in the dessert. Like, it's just. Right now, it's probably just an eggplant emoji. And a winky face. It's like we've got it down to three symbols. I'm sure there were some crude civil war oh of course just handwritten which makes it even cruder like oh you're saying you want to do what to my what in cursive cole stackman says ffl revocations have substantially increased biden is going

after gun dealers 270 ffls in the past year local atf branches are no longer allowed to make judgment calls that go straight back to DC. Wow. They're coming for your guns. Going to take them away. So I was, you know, I argue with people on Facebook all the time.

And someone claimed that the Uvalde guy had assault rifles. And I said, no, he didn't. And they were like, what? And then I was like, he literally didn't. And then they changed the argument.

And they were like, no, no, we weren't talking about assault rifles. We were talking about AR-15s. It's like what they do is they'll tell you somebody has a full auto machine gun. Then when you call them out, they'll go, oh, no, no, no, no. We just

meant... So that way what they do is when they tell a regular person assault rifle and they're imagining that they're like, we should ban that, right? Okay, so we'll ban the AR-15, right? They're tricking you. If you call them out on it, they're forced to go back to, oh, we just mean regular single bullet rifles. What does AR stand for?

Armor light. See, that's what people – they think AR, assault rifle. Of course. That's – so – And it's funny because they're like, we got to ban the AR-15. And I'm like, okay, my AK, my M1, and my Mini-14 have nothing to say to this conversation. What are you talking about? It is probably too late on the show to be preachy, but I feel like any time this conversation comes up, I should say it.

And I sort of alluded to it last time I was on the show where I've become friends with Tim Kennedy and a lot of those guys down in Austin. I've got to train with them, and it's great. And I was a ban all guns guy. them in not a this guy jeff gonzalez who's one of the fire and storm instructors was helping me when you actually talk to them about shootings mass shootings but you're not saying i'm going to take your guns or you're not going you you you support school shootings or whatever and you actually ask them solutions because i'm fascinated by that i'm fascinated by self-defense i'm fascinated by situational awareness i always want to pick their brains on tactics to actually prevent it, not make them feel like the bad guy.

They have answers. And these are experts who have trained. And so when I ask them sometimes, or I ask Jeff, you know, why don't you talk about this when you go on Fox News or whatever? He's like, we can't. Because anytime we're invited on, it is strictly just because they're trying to take our guns and I'm forced to just defend why you shouldn't take our guns. We should

be having all of these people on shows to talk about what would you do to stop? Because then it seems like conservatives don't care about shootings and they just care about their toys. That's not the answer. We just need to give them space to like, what are your solutions? Let me explain to you, brother. Imagine we

all were upset because an old lady fell down the stairs yeah and then you came to me and said i got an idea what if we make stairs into slides yeah that way if she fell she would slide down i mean this is a good solution but we'd all look at you and be like well how would you get up the stairs how would you get up like this doesn't solve the problem and you can still fall and get hurt on a slide in fact more people probably would because they wouldn't realize like your idea makes no sense the problem. And you can still fall and get hurt on a slide. In fact, more people probably would because they wouldn't realize, like, your idea makes no sense to the problem. That's what the gun argument is right now. Liberals come out and they're like – they offer up things that you're like, we want background checks.

And I'm like, the guy passed a background check. What are you – and we have every FFL. You have to fill out the NICS form, background checks. Then they say things like, we've got to ban assault rifles. I went to the March for Our Lives in, like, was it 2018 or something? And I said to all of them, like, you realize that assault rifles are already, like, banned after 1986 for the most part, heavily regulated. So I'm curious what you actually mean by that. And they're like, oh.

And, like, I had one woman take her sign and roll it up. And, like, I didn't know. Right. Well, what I'm saying is take that a step further. So what you're doing right now is you're saying, hey, these are why your arguments are flawed. What I'm saying is don't even have them on to disprove liberals talking points. Literally start the conversation with what do you think we should do? What are ways to keep us safer?

Because they don't get the opportunity to speak on that from what I've heard. You're talking about conservatives. Not just conservatives, but people like Tim Kennedy, people who are trained, people who train people to defend themselves, people who have experience in volatile active shooter situations because they never get a chance just to go an hour on solutions, go an hour on how we can protect ourselves. They're always forced to be on the defensive and be like, no, no, no. Here's why the liberals are wrong about that. No, no, no. Here's what an AR-15 is. No, here's the problems with red flag laws, blah, blah, blah.

It is talked about all the time. The issue is like liberals don't care. Well, I think we should add Tim on this show because he's a brilliant speaker. Well, he has a book right now, so this is the time to book him. And he's in D.C., I think. So there's a really great meme. It says we protect our president with guns. We protect our politicians with guns.

We protect our celebrities with guns. We protect banks with guns. We protect schools politicians with guns. We protect our celebrities with guns. We protect banks with guns. We protect schools with a sign saying gun-free zone. And then when a bad guy shows up, we call the people with the guns to come and help. And they don't go in. I mean, here's the solution. Have the cops actually go in the building.

The cops, right. That might be good. 100%. We'll grab one more here. And grab one more. Delacorte says, Tim, a kata is a karate exercise consisting of a series of techniques

for visualizing a fight and practicing one's form. Gun kata is a firearm application of that practice. Very cool. My friends, I'm dying over here. So if you want to come and hang out,

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Don't forget Cast Castle. Episode tomorrow is going to be epic. YouTube.com slash Cast Castle. It'll be great tomorrow. Bill, you want to shout anything out? Yeah, guys. Everyone, come out. Mines Festival of Ideas,

live conversations and comedy, special announcements here. We got Ryan Long, Tyler Fisher, Chrissy Mayer, and John Fuglesang all doing stand-up in between the panels.

I'm just going to run through the full lineup quickly. Cornel West. Look, we have been for two months trying to get the left and the right together and the center. We've reached out to everyone. I've,

I've talked to some serious leftists who really wanted to come and they couldn't make it somewhere harder than others. But like, so this is also even conservatives. Cornell is one of the best speakers just as a performer. Cornell is one of the best speakers you'll hear. Oh yeah. He's a,

he's a poet. Cornell and Coleman are going head to head-head with Daryl moderating. Wow. That's going to be intense. So we got Cornell West, Tulsi Gabbard, Tim Pool, Destiny, Coleman Hughes, Majid Nawaz, Ryan Long, Blair White, James O'Keefe, Chrissy Mayer, Seth Dillon, Zuby, Nick Gillespie, John Fuglesang, Libby Emmons, myself, Ian, Margaret Kimberly, very interesting progressive free speech supporter, Ben Burgess of Jacobin,

Daryl Davis, and Tyler Fisher. Tyler's great. It's going to be funny. Tyler's hilarious. I noticed you didn't say my last name, Bill. You didn't say my name either. Luke is shafted. Luke's coming.

We're doing a pre-stream with Destiny Luke. I want you to be on that. Yeah's coming. We're doing a pre-stream with Destiny. Luke, I want you to be on that. Yeah, definitely. It's at the Beacon Theater. It's at the Beacon Theater. I know people are like, NYC, screw that. There's no restrictions. There's no mandates or anything. Festival.minds.com

promo code festival for 50% off at festival.mindins.com. You can also request free tickets. Look, let's pack this place. Like, don't let money be an issue. That's it. Let's do it.

I'm excited to be there. Also, because we got in Times Square, there's a giant, there's actually two giant Tim Pools because we got the vinyl and the digital. Then we got a giant Luke Rutkowski, a giant Michael Malice, and a giant Ian Crosland. Oh, holler. So we got this big digital billboard and got to put Luke and Michael and Ian up on it. My goal is to get so big in this community that I will eventually have one in the city that canceled me. I think it's going to happen.

Well, we'll do it. I'm down. I'm saying if we're doing more Cast Castle stuff, the plan here is we are invading the establishment cultural spaces. That's why we do it. I will literally book a flight back to New York just to stand in front of it. Shout it out, man. Yes.

So I mean, most importantly here, check out the vlog tomorrow. We're doing something really special. We're going to continue to do it. If you want to see me perform live in stand-up and you are in Texas, I'm at the House of Comedy, headlining the 16th, 18th, and 19th. Two shows on Saturday. That is this week in the Dallas Plano

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At all, Jamie. You're in so much trouble, dude. Bill, thank you so much for doing this event. I know it's very hard to do events. It's important to bridge the gap, bring people together. So just hearing you talk about it, I'll be there. I'll put my support behind it. And it's awesome to get these people in the same room to debate and discuss.

So thank you for doing that. And if you want to support me and be involved, what I'm doing, you can on LukeUncensored.com. I have three master classes, exclusive merchandise, a forum, new videos almost every single day going down the rabbit hole, all on LukeUncensored.com. Hope to see you there. Thanks for having me. Remember, this too shall pass. Times can get stressful. It doesn't mean it's not going to be stressful tomorrow.

Things are going to get better when they're down, and they're going to get worse when they're up, but stick with it because we need you here. I will see you at the festival, festival.minds.com. I'm looking forward to this, man. Come out. Let's make this thing big. I want to hear from you too.

Hopefully, we'll do an audience talk back at some point or questions or some sort of meet and greet. Yeah, there's meet and greet before. Check it out. Hell yeah. That's such a good quote that Ian just said there. That was something that a wise man gave to a king who asked for something to make him sad when he's happy and happy when he's sad.

This too shall pass. You guys may follow me on Twitter and Minds.com at Sarah Patchlitz as well as all the rest of my socials including pictures of my cat at SarahPlets dot me. We will see you all over at Timcast dot com about 11 p.m. Thanks for hanging out.