Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #554 - Staff For Stephen Colbert BREACHED Capitol Aided by Adam Schiff, Arrested w/Vish Burra, Forrest Cooper

Episode Date: June 18, 2022

Tim, Seamus of FreedomToons, Luke of WeAreChange, and Lydia host America-First activist and operative Vish Burra alongside former Army Ranger and small business owner Forrest Cooper to discuss the Ste...phen Colbert staff arrested at Capitol Hill (in GOP offices after hours), The View's insane views on minorities and gun control, the GOP rep who got roasted for supporting Dem gun control legislation, the role gun control might play in the coming civil unrest, and once again The View's crazy views on a "Buttigieg-Harris 2024" ticket. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ladies and gentlemen, it is a is a dark day in American history. There was an insurrection at the Capitol. Never forget 616 2022 when staffers and comedians and individuals associated with Stephen Colbert breached the Capitol building after hours without authorization let in. Yes, by a Democratic member of Congress. Our democracy. I'm sorry. Our constitutional republic is truly at risk. No, I'm sorry, our constitutional republic
Starting point is 00:00:25 is truly at risk. No, in all seriousness, here's the real story. This is actually crazy. So I'm sitting down in the green room. I turn on Fox News and Jesse Waters comes on and says that seven people
Starting point is 00:00:36 associated with the Colbert's Late Show were arrested for breaching the Capitol building. They were unauthorized. They were banging on doors and screaming, apparently. The report is that they were let in by Adam Schiff. Now we're hearing it's nine people, including some well-known comics, as well as staffers for the late show with Stephen Colbert. So it's fascinating. Obviously, I'm not literally
Starting point is 00:00:57 comparing this to what happened on January 6th, but it is kind of a weird irony. We have the January 6th hearings going on right now, and you have several comedians breaching the building. They were instructed to leave. Apparently, they were let in by Schiff. I wonder if Adam Schiff is going to be held accountable at all. So we'll talk about that. We got a bunch of other news, too. We got, I believe it was Cornyn, his name, right?
Starting point is 00:01:18 That senator who wants gun control? That's who it is, yeah? He's getting booed at a GOP convention. People were throwing his language in the trash. Oh, I really, really want to talk about that and uh i think i think we'll roll with that obviously a lot of news in the um in the economy because everybody expected to get really bad democrats are already plotting replacing joe biden let's be real they have been for some time so we'll we'll get into all of that stuff joining us us tonight to talk about all of that is Vish Burra. How are you doing?
Starting point is 00:01:46 Thanks for having me, Tim. I'm an America First activist and operative. I've worked with the New York Young Republican Club. I've been the producer for War Room with Steve Bannon. I've worked closely with Matt Gaetz in the House of Representatives. I'm also one of the main players behind the Hunter Biden laptop story right here. Anybody who's ever got a copy of the Hunter Biden laptop has pretty much got it from me. Wow. Well, then.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Should be interesting. We also have Forrest Cooper. Yep. So my name is Forrest Cooper. I exist in two different worlds, one of them being philosophy, the other one being violence and how we understand it. And I am here for my fourth appearance. Enjoying my time here so my politics is my own but i'm really concerned about i like to i like to focus on questions of gun
Starting point is 00:02:31 control and whether it's arbitrary and what's the point and then you can find me on twitter now if you've been following if you've seen us on or me on your show i'm on twitter now unfortunately you have a lot of experience in war, conflict, crisis. Yep. Seven deployments, four of them prior with Ranger Battalion. I've spent plenty of time overseas. I was over in Ukraine for a little bit recently. But that was more for journalism.
Starting point is 00:02:56 So I really want to talk about, you know, obviously, Tim Pool loves talking about civil war. So we'll get into that, especially considering what's going on with this Capitol breach and what it really means and what they'll say about it, plus where this goes in terms of... There's another big story
Starting point is 00:03:11 out of New Mexico we talked about, Otero County, where they're refusing to certify the election. A court order came down saying you have to, and this guy,
Starting point is 00:03:18 Coy Griffin, was like, nope, not going to do it. So nobody knows what that means. They're like, if he doesn't do it, what happens?
Starting point is 00:03:28 No one knows. Is there just no election? Well, we'll find out. We got Luke Krakowski. I'm pretty sure Forrest is here to assassinate me after the show. So my name is Luke Krakowski of WeAreChanged.org. I am your humble t-shirt vendor. Today I'm wearing a shirt that gets me a lot of thumbs up. It says, if you trust the government, you don't know history. I think it's important for a lot of people to see this message. If you agree, you can go on thebestpoliticalshirts.com and get yourself one. Also, today will be my last day for a little bit here on this broadcast. I will be missing you guys. I will definitely miss Tim, Ian, Lydia, and even this grinning malaka right in front of me that couldn't be happier about the juice.
Starting point is 00:04:07 No, I'm really sad that you're going, man. Luke is going on an unpaid suspension for inappropriate behavior. It's true. He cheated while we were playing video games. Also called me Potato Man many times. So many times. No, that's fine. I can talk to HR then.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Then I can talk to HR. That's fine. You would. You would, Karen. I can talk to HR then then I can talk to HR you would I want to point out that you're sure to strike if you trust the government you don't know history as someone who doesn't know history I also don't trust the government so I want that to be said at least you admit it
Starting point is 00:04:35 I'm not going to pretend to be something I'm not Luke is it assassination if you know it's coming maybe I don't know we'll see what happens after the show it's a question for another day. Not for you. It's making me feel unsafe. So my name is Seamus Coghlan.
Starting point is 00:04:48 I make cartoons at a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes. We just released a cartoon yesterday that I think you guys will really like. Speaking of assassinations and assassination attempts, it's pretty spicy. I think you'll enjoy it. We also just started a website. So if you want to support independent content, help us get free from big tech, and get an extra cartoon every week, go over to freedomtunes.com and become a member for five bucks a month. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:05:11 I am loving the vibe tonight. It's going to be a very fun conversation. We have a lot of different expertises here, so I'm looking forward to getting into it. Before we get started, head over to timcast.com. Become a member and support our work and our journalists. As a member, you'll get access to exclusive segments from this show. They go up Monday through Thursday at 11 p.m., and we just have this massive library by now of all of these different guests and conversations. So it really is great stuff, and we appreciate all of you becoming members, supporting us.
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Starting point is 00:06:12 and help create competition. So go to TimCast.com, but don't forget, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share this video right now everywhere you can. If you really want to help us out, word of mouth is the best way to help. Let's jump into that first story from just the news. Capital breach. Seven individuals, some tied to comedian Colbert, caught unapproved in complex. Let me see if I can pull up this Twitter. It looks like we're getting like a weird thing happening with the display. Yeah, we keep having to resize it.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Yeah, whatever. You can read it. So here we go. We got this Twitter thread from Chad Pergram, who says Fox confirms that groups of persons associated with the late show Stephen Colbert were arrested last night and charged with illegal entry
Starting point is 00:06:54 to house office buildings after hours. Fox is told that people were arrested in the Longworth House Office Building. The group was in the Cannon House Office Building earlier in the day trying to get interviews around the time of the 1-6 Committee hearing. However, USCP shooed them away because they did not have proper press credentials. However,
Starting point is 00:07:10 the group surfaced later in the night after the Capitol complex was closed to the public. Fox is told they took pictures and videos around the offices of House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy and Lauren Boebert. Hmm. Sounds like an insurrection if you were to ask me. I mean, that's what the media was saying about, who was it?
Starting point is 00:07:27 Who was the congressman, right? Louder Milk. Louder Milk. Very Louder Milk. Yep, they were saying he was leading a tour and helping people or giving them insider information. What is this? Why would they take pictures? They say they were unescorted and arrested in charge of the legal entry.
Starting point is 00:07:41 They were arrested near Boebert's office, released overnight. They've confirmed all of their names, nine people. Now, I can confirm several of these people do work for Stephen Colbert. Some of them, I believe, which is one of these guys, I don't know, is the voice of that comedian, that dog. Robert Smigel. Is that who that is? Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:00 What's the dog? Try him. Try him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, he actually goes on to say that. USCP have issued the following statement. On June 16, 2022, at approximately 8.30 p.m., U.S. Capitol Police received a call for a disturbance in the Longworth House office building. Responding officers observed seven individuals unescorted without congressional ID in a six-floor hallway.
Starting point is 00:08:26 The building was closed to visitors, and these individuals were determined to be part of a group that had been directed by the USCP to leave the building. I gotta tell you, my friends, this is worse than January 6th. You think I'm joking? I'm not joking. I mean it seriously. On January 6th, many of the people who entered the building walked up with no signs, with nothing, and had the doors opened for them by the police who then went to take selfies with them.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Those people, one guy so far, because there's been a few bench trials, one of these guys was acquitted because the judge said, cops opened the door and let him in. That's not trespassing. There was another guy who tried claiming the same thing, but he's on video climbing through a broken window and over broken glass. Sorry, that's not going to fly.
Starting point is 00:09:00 You know you're trespassing. These people were told to leave. They came back, and according to, I believe we have a, it was a tweet from Jonathan Turley and a statement made by, it wasn't from Jonathan, Turley tweeted
Starting point is 00:09:13 what Jesse Waters reported that it was Adam Schiff and maybe one of his staffers who let them in the building. So you have a member of Congress letting them in the building after they were told by the police not to be there.
Starting point is 00:09:24 That's almost as bad as the rioters. Now, they weren't engaging in violence. The rioters on January 6th obviously arrest them and charge them as appropriate. But what they did is worse than what the Maga Mimas did when they blindly walked in confused. So I'd like to see several FBI raids, maybe some misdemeanor charges that result in a year of solitary confinement. What say you, good sir?
Starting point is 00:09:47 Well, let me ask you this, Tim. What do you think if, let's say, those producers were reaching out to many members of the House trying to get in to the Capitol via requests and stuff? Maybe Adam Schiff wasn't the first one. In fact, a source from the House sent me an email from Jake Plunkett sent on June 6th. Hi. Reaching out on behalf of Robert Smigel and the Triumph the Insult Dog. He'll be in D.C. on June 15th and the 16th covering the Jan 6th hearings.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Wants to do some comedy bits with members of both sides of the aisle. If you haven't seen Triumph, he's the insult comic dog with Conan and recently had his own Hulu special. We've done bits with everyone from Barney Frank to Ted Cruz and Cory Booker. We're very much interested in doing comedy for both sides. That's an email that was sent on June 6th. Now, if Adam Schiff actually let these guys in,
Starting point is 00:10:40 there's a process. I used to work in the house, in the Longworth building. I worked there. And in order for you to get access to the office buildings as press, you have to go through the admin and get the house admin and get press credentials. The reason you would go to a member to let you in is so that you're let in without having to declare that you're press, right? And so that's it. And not only that. Can you bypass security?
Starting point is 00:11:09 Well, you have to be registered in by somebody from the office of the Congress member. So you're on record that you're in, but there are rules. If you're a visitor to one of these offices for a Congress member, you're not allowed to even roam the halls of the office building. What about after hours when the building's closed?
Starting point is 00:11:26 Definitely not because you need a staff member of the Congress member who let you in to be escorting you through the halls at all times. So my question is, if you were let in after hours, would you be able to bypass security? Well, Adam Schiff has to answer. No, somebody had to let him in through the doors, but then they let him loose through the building. What I mean is, is there a way to open doors for people that does not bring them through any kind of security? Oh, no, no, no, no. Everyone goes through security. Everybody goes through security.
Starting point is 00:11:57 That's what I want to make sure. Yeah. Because I'm like, did they open a side door? And even after 7 p.m., there's only one door. It's called the 24-hour entrance at the Longworth building. There's only one door you can get in after 7 p.m. So you're saying that he signed them in. He brought them through.
Starting point is 00:12:09 A staffer or himself had to have signed them in. Wow. And on Jesse Waters, apparently they were like banging on doors and yelling, and that's how the cops were alerted to it. We need more reporting to come out because this story is just coming out now. Here's the crazy thing. This happened yesterday at 8.30 p.m. What?
Starting point is 00:12:26 How are we just now finding out about it? There's people in the chat room calling this in-soy-rection, which I just wanted to note here. And you made a good point, Tim, especially on January 6th. There was doors that were extremely heavy that were closed with magnets that were only opened because of a code that was input directly by someone from the inside that knew the code that was able to open the doors on january 6th what happened here is video of it does video the cops opening the door and the cop even says don't agree with it but i respect it yeah yeah so so you know what happened here we don't know maybe they're they were trying to do another big pfizer sang and sang and dance
Starting point is 00:13:05 routine uh trying to promote more uh procedures who knows we don't know we do need more reporting to find out exactly what was going on here it would be funny if all of those people were dressed up like giant vaccinations like i don't know sneaking around running around i i think you guys aren't taking this seriously enough it sounds to me like adam schiff came dangerously close to overthrowing the united states government. You're right. We need hearings immediately. Absolutely. Adam Schiff, let the... I mean, let's be serious, though. If it's true that he let
Starting point is 00:13:31 them in, I mean, that's way worse than January 6th. Donald Trump said, peacefully march to the Capitol and cheer on politicians, something like that. Were there Republican elected officials who let people into the Capitol on January 6th? No. Yeah. Did any sign them in? That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Look, the left will always try to conflate all of January 6th with just the riot on the one side of the building. I'm not talking about that. Those people who are fighting with cops and smashing stuff and hitting, those people will get charged. Arrest them, charge them, make sure it's appropriate. You get what you get. I'm not a fan of what they're doing with the solitary confinement for a year or anything.
Starting point is 00:14:08 That's egregious. But if you're riding, you get arrested. But there's videos of people just walking up confused. There's no fences. There's no barricades. And then the cops literally open the door and they wave to people as they walk in with their flags. One cop stops. They take a selfie together and they're like, yeah, thank you.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Apparently, one guy claimed that the cops were actually like yeah come on in there's actually video of cops fanning people like this now the argument there was the capitol police said the cop was fanning the police not the people well you got a problem there if there's regular people standing there confused and you're going like this and motioning forward and they're like okay yeah they think you're telling them to come in that's also a very excuse. Taking selfies with insurrectionists is not really a good look. Also, hold on. That seems like a ridiculous story. So if there were people who were just mobbing the compound, right, and we're calling security over, and those people are at the door, I'm not going like this to gesture security to come over to help us, right?
Starting point is 00:15:02 That's not how that works. That's insane. That is such an insane argument. I was just doing a general waving motion into the building because I wanted one specific person to stop everyone else from getting in the building. They were telling the other officers to pull back.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Okay, well maybe I could see that. Here's a silly question. The January 6th event insurrection is probably going to be one of the most documented events in American history. Even now, it's been a year and a half old. There's so much documentation on this that there are dissertations that will be written about people's dissertations, about people's opinions, about what they thought they saw, whatever. Has anybody, and I mean anybody,
Starting point is 00:15:45 that has the cogency to ask maybe somebody who knows anything about security regarding security protocols, security operations? I mean, it's not a complicated situation. The whole fanning thing is ridiculous. We need to get to the bottom of the 529 insurrection. 529 insurrection? 529 insurrection? In all seriousness. That's right. 529.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Roughly two-thirds of Americans want to look into the 2020 riots, according to polling data. Less than half want to look into January 6th. Less than half agree with the January 6th commission. You mean the 529 insurrection? Yeah, that's right. The 529 insurrection, of course. Never forget. Are you familiar with 529? I live in Minneapolis. I'm familiar.
Starting point is 00:16:24 It was mostly peaceful, though. 529 in Washington, D.C., when violent leftists tried tearing the fence down and set fire to one of the White House guard posts, set fire to St. John's Church and forced the president to retreat to a bunker, attacked journalists, and the police had to come and defend the White House from this insurrection on 529. 529. Yeah. 529. I remember that day.
Starting point is 00:16:44 You mentioned that they were – this is one of the most documented events. And it is curious, why aren't they releasing the security camera footage? Why not release all of the security camera footage? From 529? Well, from January. January 6th was more documented. But yeah, both. Then they won't.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Or the federal involvement and release information about how many agents were there and were participating, and also the foreknowledge with basic events that were on Facebook saying that this was going to happen, and then this was all something that they— What about the supposed pipe bombs that were just near where Kamala Harris was that they decided to stop investigating and stop talking about? I have a real question. After January 6th, a bunch of leftists started doxing as many people as they could posting their photos and faces
Starting point is 00:17:26 no one did that for 529 I mean that seriously, at the White House you have all this video of people trying to break down the fence, they actually tore down the barricades, they actually set fire to one of the guard posts and a church the right is not playing this game I was going to say, as an activist
Starting point is 00:17:43 I've seen this over and over again we're just not willing to do what the left is willing to do to take us out right like this the sedition hunters page is what you're talking about where they're going out and doxing you know people who were part of the insurrection or whatever but we don't do that why not uh we we we have this i i think that the right has a problem of of actually just participate where the space is available why don't we have our own version of splc or adl that just goes and labels people communists or you know marxists or you know woke uh you know bad because the because you know the way i see it is like the quote-unquote right is a is a disparate group of random factions
Starting point is 00:18:24 that disagree with each other on so many different things. Not even necessarily individualists. I mean, conservatives are more individualists, but they're more collectivists than, say, libertarians. But to be contrarian here, is that going to be the right strategy? Because someone did something bad, should we do something bad, too, and use the state and the government and the deep state to go after people politically? So I understand the paradigm. I'm just playing – It's not bad to call out bad people, right?
Starting point is 00:18:49 They're just duplicitous. There is right-wing media matters, sort of. I think it's unfair to say necessarily, but newsbusters – are you familiar with newsbusters? Yes. So they watch all of these cable channels and then call out the lies in the media. I respect that. Media matters lies about people in the media. But it's an inversion.
Starting point is 00:19:08 I like what Newsbusters does. I don't like what Media Matters does, but at a core, they're both watching TV and then publishing their opinions on it. So there is that counterpart. You're right for the SPLC. My whole thing is just match them at the front. I don't need you to win. Just match them, right? Because then it
Starting point is 00:19:24 opens up other fronts in the war where we can actually overtake them. The thing is, we just get kicked in too much from too many angles. But if you look at the SPLC, they lie, they slander, they've been sued successfully by individuals that they lied about. They lied about
Starting point is 00:19:40 me. And they lied about me too. They took a speech that I did, and they took one particular sentence that I said, and they matched it up with a sentence that I said later to make me sound like I was calling for a revolution when I was calling for an evolution and people being better themselves individually. So they're liars. They're cheaters. I don't think we should strive to become what they are. And I know where you're coming from. We're not sort of saying.
Starting point is 00:20:02 No one's saying that. No, no, no. But what you were saying I think was kind of matched by that. Well, I think that, first of all, nobody would call – we call the SPLC liars, right? SPLC wouldn't say what they're doing is lying. And there's nobody that comes out a third party sort of – A court of law did. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:19 So if a court of law did, fine, right? And who's taking that? The story they wrote, there were several individuals, including me, they retracted it, apologized, and corrected it. And a bunch of my friends end up on that list too, right? But who has the – does everyone who gets put on that list have the resources to be able to challenge that, right? That's the problem. So there's a really good example you could take with anything that happens in the gun industry or the gun culture. Or it's like, oh, well, that guy got hit.
Starting point is 00:20:48 And so everyone just leaves him alone for a while. He'll figure it out. What I'm saying is that I think you're identifying that in many ways the left circles the wagons. And they protect their own. And there's a lot of things that you can go through real quickly. So I'll just launch them one at a time. It was Zuby who said calling someone a hypocrite only matters if they
Starting point is 00:21:09 have integrity. I'm paraphrasing him poorly, but like, okay, we know that doesn't work. The SPLC is not an honest organization. We know that, so then they're not credible. We don't use them because they're credible, but somebody else will because it's advantageous. Do you fight fire with fire sometimes sometimes however what i think a more critical condition is why does the
Starting point is 00:21:30 conservative party not use the department of justice to actually do justice and i don't mean this in the well actually mentality right but it's you look at all the all the the these criticisms across the uh the 529 issue you look at are the the 529 insurrection you look at the the things that happened in minneapolis the things that happened in kenosha it's why don't you actually just i don't know maybe do your job right so and because if you're not doing justice you're not the department of justice and if you're not doing justice as the department of justice you should find a new job. You should be removed. And you don't – I do not think you win in the game of attrition with people who are already committed to a zealous ideology that will never stop.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Maybe abolishing these corrupted institutions might be something better instead of them being weaponized against the political party. Because when another political party goes into power, they're going to be using the same tools that they use on the other party. A perfect example would be, what was her name? The gal from The View who said that gun laws in America would change if black people had them, right? Okay, do you censor her?
Starting point is 00:22:43 Do you cut her from the film? Or do you cut her from... No, you ignore her. So she's not a serious speaker. And as that continues, you encourage over the long tail decision to build your community, to build your friends,
Starting point is 00:22:59 to focus. If you want to defeat ignorant people, you isolate them from the halls of intelligence. She wasn't wrong, though, Joy Behar. What she's saying, she's not talking about conservatives. So Joy Behar on The View says that when black people get guns, the gun laws will change. Now, we as people who don't like racism or who like guns, we hear that and we're like, that's ridiculous. Like, we would ever support that race.
Starting point is 00:23:24 No, no, no no no it's these uppity liberals of course want more gun control and especially if minorities they don't like are getting what happened with the black panthers it's exactly that was california that was san francisco absolutely it was california and san francisco in a different time i don't want to go down that road too far what i do want to go down to is the point of white fragility what did we learn from the book White Fragility? The author is a terrible person and she wants to project that on everybody else. And she's racist. She's a racist who wants
Starting point is 00:23:51 to project her racism on everybody else. An honest academic would look at that and say Forrest, we need to have an honest conversation about this. I see people on the right internalize what Joy Behar said. And when you internalize that pain, you assume they're talking about you when they're actually talking about themselves. I see people on the right internalize what Joy Behar said. And when you internalize that pain, you assume they're talking about you when they're actually talking about
Starting point is 00:24:08 themselves. So when they project, when they say these things, I just always assume they're talking about themselves. You know why? People have their worldview and they assume, I should say low IQ people assume everyone else must see the world the same way they do. Therefore, if they don't agree with me, it's because they're lying. So someone like Joy Behar, when she says that, she's actually talking more about herself and what she feels than what anyone else actually thinks. I don't think she has low IQ. I think she's just mean.
Starting point is 00:24:40 I think it's fueled from spite. It's just rage. Why would you say that about anybody? Why would you say that about anybody? Why would you say that about anybody? Is that the sole thing that motivates them is racism? Because she's a racist. Exactly. So she needs to spend some time figuring out who she is.
Starting point is 00:24:56 She sees the world through this lens and assumes that's why people would do something. She doesn't understand the fact that we're all – I don't know. Are you familiar with Maj Torre? Yes. Yeah, we're fans of Black Guns Matter and Maj Torre and the work he does. And it's like she doesn't even know he exists. I mean, literally, she probably doesn't. I think that she
Starting point is 00:25:15 sees this world, then she says everyone else must think the same way as me, but I'm a good person because I don't act on it. We're all like, no, we don't think that. We think you're a racist. This is just a modernized version of white man's burden. That's all this is. Look, it's hard for me to be this good white person. It's my burden to have to go around and say this stuff.
Starting point is 00:25:39 I'm trying to speak sense to you folks. Are you talking about like the 1800s white man's burden? Yeah, it's the same thing. The part where like we have things like travel and medicine and written language we should spread that around the world? Yeah, but they've taken that and just injected it into everything. Yeah, they call it white savior complex. Right. It's the same thing.
Starting point is 00:26:01 It's the same thing. They think they know better for you. That's the same thing they think they know better for you that's the whole idea remember that guy in California where he was cheering on the rioting and then he's like you see his twitter thread where he's like yes yes do it yeah wait a minute why are you coming to my neighborhood don't come to my neighborhood go downtown
Starting point is 00:26:17 and it's like didn't he actually say go downtown where the poor people lived and he was mad they're going to Beverly Hills I'm like bro they're coming to eat the rich they've been saying this for a while they don't say eat the rich because they're hungry they say and he was mad they're going to Beverly Hills. I'm like, bro, they're coming to eat the rich. You're not safe. They've been saying this for a while. They don't say eat the rich because they're hungry. They say eat the rich because they're greedy.
Starting point is 00:26:30 I'm still working this idea out. I don't claim to know the answer here. I don't know the solutions. But I think maybe it would be more advantageous to stop relying on corrupted institutions to do the right thing. And I think moving away from them, defunding them, abolishing them, I think would be a better strategy than saying, hey, Bill Barr, Mr. CIA, do the right thing here. I think it would be better to, you know, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Some people say play fire with fire, and I understand that argument. I understand where you guys are coming from. But my knee-jerk reaction is like, wait, what we're doing here is we're adding more fuel to the fire and it's already very hot in this room well that's my point of view so i think you're and i might be wrong and i might be wrong oh you might be and let me tell you why uh you i think you're seizing a lot on the argument of state intervention and just setting that aside from it because i don't even know i don't think we agree entirely there but when he mentioned something like having our own version of the splc obviously we're not saying we should have an organization that lies but the point is the left has re-engineered the culture such that being
Starting point is 00:27:32 accused of having any kind of conservative value comes with a very swift and significant social cost but they target attack and harass individuals and i think that it is a very good idea for conservatives to push for a culture where there is a social cost to being a communist right if you are going to go out there and say i support the ideology which has resulted in hundreds of millions of innocent people being slaughtered folks should probably not want to associate with if you want if you want to advocate for the abolition of private property start with yourself if you're not willing to do that you don't believe it. But that is an old tale. What you're dealing with is an asymmetry of ideas.
Starting point is 00:28:08 An asymmetry in the side of warfare. You look at, after nuclear weapons were created, the idea of warfare had to change. You can't put the genie back in the bottle. After the machine gun, horse charges didn't matter anymore. After bomber planes,
Starting point is 00:28:24 large formations of people don't work anymore. Standard armor didn't matter anymore after bomber planes large formations of people don't work anymore standard armor didn't matter when gunpowder became ubiquitous it took time but if then eventually gunpowder defeated armor so your then armor became massive tanks which then were you know right now we have drones you having a tank battalion is functionally useless against a powerful western military what happened after this history lesson at we saw in well not history i don't need to talk down that's not the right way of saying it um but after world war ii what were the next major conflicts korea my grandfather was a pow for three years so i heard a lot of stories um and then so there was that and then there was vietnam and you saw the rise of insurgency warfare
Starting point is 00:29:05 insurgency has become such a buzzword amongst the military elite that it's like i'm cool i said insurgency metaphysics polymath banana peel but whatever um so the point being said though is how does an asymmetry work the the left has functionally and fully adopted asymmetrical warfare from the side of what we had called terrorism, but an insurgency. It is a situation where I get to harm you, but if you do what I do to you, if you reciprocate, that's bad. So you see this within the conflict, the riots in Minneapolis. The riots were a really good example. The Antifa or the rioters will provoke a response and use that response as justification for further evidence of their need for revolution. Who's been calling for a revolution this entire time? It hasn't been the right.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Yeah. Well, look. But understanding insurgency conflict, how to fight against a counterinsurgency, the purpose of an insurgency is not to defeat you in a military battle. It's to break your will to the system. How do Americans, how does the right or how do Americans defeat this social contagion that is this insurgency, which is both bred on our soil and abroad, is you remember the foundations that built our country.
Starting point is 00:30:28 It's almost the Lord of the Rings plot all over again. You have to understand who you are and where you come from and then live up to those virtues. That is very important that you mention that because one of the huge problems right now is that conservatives, but I would say Americans overall, and people living in Western societies have no idea what their values are or what values upon which their society has
Starting point is 00:30:51 been founded. And so when the left comes along and they try to deconstruct, a lot of people are completely helpless. They don't know how to defend and justify the values that our society promotes. They're incapable of doing it. And you're right that we need to know what we believe and we don't. Yeah, I think this is where we kind of differ because I don't see the left as the main problem here. I see a divide and conquer agenda. I see voting for the lesser of two evils that is continuing to plague this country.
Starting point is 00:31:16 I see a duopoly. I see fifth generational warfare being raged on the American people. And I think the people that are in power are using the left right now because they're the most easily to get used now. They're the most easily to push this agenda through because it's convenient now. But as
Starting point is 00:31:31 soon as it becomes inconvenient for the larger agenda, for the larger fifth-generational warfare enslavement of humanity, they're going to be using a right-wing element of it that's also going to be pushing on a different front that's going to be taking away our rights and our economic abilities uh to to survive and prosper so more than hold on how do you how do you you have sorry i just want to say this one thing and then i'll let you jump in so
Starting point is 00:31:53 more than one thing can be true at a time it can absolutely be the case that the ruling elite see the left as convenient revolutionaries to destroy the existing social order and then bring to fruition whatever it is that they're seeking to transform our society into it is also the case that the strategy by which they do that is to have the left completely erode any and all moral surrounding family values destroy the family and then the government comes into that vacuum and usurps the responsibility that the family uh normally and they do this with the participation of what we have to do oh i totally agree with you on that but that's part of why we do have to fight left-wing ideology and defend and fight for the family so i don't think it's enough to say the left is being used by these tyrants therefore we just look at the tyrants we actually have to fight
Starting point is 00:32:33 the ideology itself because it's useful to them for a reason so my opinion is i think we're in such a desperate situation we should be fighting against the enslavement the evisceration of our rights and the destruction of our financial futures, whether you're on the left, right, or center, I think it's time more than ever to let go of these kind of differences and say, hey, we're actually being really hurt here. We're actually being really screwed over here. And unless we come together, unless we realize that we're all in this boat together, we're all going down as a sinking ship. I don't want the people who bring children to vote. Luke, I hear what you're saying,
Starting point is 00:33:05 but I don't think you understand the deep ideological divide in the United States from left and right. You have people who have no moral framework. They will say simultaneously stop and frisk is bad and red flag laws are good, even though they're variants of the exact same thing and one's even worse. Red flag laws, stop and frisk on steroids they're for it why no moral framework so when you go to them and say hey you know we need to come together because all these bad things are happening they'll go oh you're right of course and then as
Starting point is 00:33:33 soon as you turn around they'll they'll hit you in the back yeah i'm not saying it's a good strategy i'm not saying it's even going to work well it doesn't it doesn't work okay well. It's Isaiah 520. They will call good evil and evil good. You cannot have – you cannot break bread and have commonality with somebody who calls what you call good evil. So problem that you have, do we focus on the left? Do we focus on the globalists? Do we focus on all these things? You know what? They all – the point that you're saying, they solve the same question.
Starting point is 00:34:03 You can't just advocate for the family. You have to have one. You have to build. Forrest, I'm going to agree with Luke on this one. I think if we just compromise with the child drag shows, then maybe we'll actually win. No, no, no, no, no. That's not what I'm saying. That's not what I said.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Luke, do you think they're in the same boat as us? Because you're saying we're in the same boat together. Not absolutely. I see the right-wing political establishment willingly going along with this and pretending like they're going to be helping us when they're not. That's what I see. I see that, too. I think there's a divide, first of all, of our understanding of right-wing and Republicans. The Republicans in D.C. and then the Republicans across the nation are two totally different things.
Starting point is 00:34:41 For example, you're talking about why didn't the fbi or the cia move on 529 right insurrection the insurrection who was the president at the time donald trump that was his fbi that was his cia why didn't they move right and then you're definitely not going to get a move out of the out of a biden fbi or doj the the problem is so entrenched in dcC., right? The FBI is a bunch of – it used to be a Republican stronghold, but Republicans of D.C., right? You're James Comey's of the world, Bill Barr, Robert Mueller, right? This is the uniparty, right? There is one belief in the D.C. realm, right? When you're outside, you know, in West Virginia, New York or whatever, and it's left versus right, Democrat versus Republican. But once you get to D.C., once you win that battle and you get to D.C., the fight becomes the incumbents versus everybody else.
Starting point is 00:35:39 So the problem you have is that when you try to abol the fbi or you try to abolish these corrupt institutions i'm i'm with you on that right but first you have to get in the guys who believe that into those positions because you can't abolish that institution while you have james comey or a bill bar or robert muller there in fact i wanted to the to, the whole Mueller investigation and that, you know, James Comey gets fired, then the special counsel gets appointed for, and Robert Mueller gets selected as a special counsel.
Starting point is 00:36:13 If a couple of things were adjusted slightly differently, what you would have actually had end up is that there's a universe somewhere out there where Bill Barr would have been selected to special counsel, and then Donald Trump would have hired Robert Mueller to head the FBI. You're dealing with the same pool of talent no matter what. That's the problem.
Starting point is 00:36:38 The pool of talent you could draw on to put into the institutions. And so then it goes back to what you're saying. Build the family. Build the community. Because first you have to build the institutions. And so then it goes back to what you're saying. Build the family. Build the community. Right? Because first you have to build the community. Then you go and take the halls of power. And then you put the community in that hall of power.
Starting point is 00:36:55 And then you do what you want. That's the problem. But just for the record, I don't stand by any rumors. I don't think you should be working or aligning with any type of people who are hurting children. But the one point I want to make here is that it's both Republicans and Democrats that are going to Jeffrey Epstein's island. I need to address that
Starting point is 00:37:11 point you're making because when you say, you go to them and say we're being really hurt by this, you're talking about people who overtly and with pride, to clarify, support those people. I'm saying absolutely not. You cannot support people who hurt small children, especially with how evil they're doing and especially with the damages that they're causing them.
Starting point is 00:37:31 What I'm saying is that the conversation should be a little bit more nuanced rather than generalized. That's just the perspective that I'm trying to input here. So here's what I would recommend. Go to someone you see as a Democrat voter or someone who's perceived as a left and say, do you agree with sex changes for children? Do you agree with child drag shows? If they say no, be like, okay, let's have a conversation. If they say yes, which 95% probably will, maybe 85%, then you can be like, okay, have a nice day. What you're asking about, Tim, is the same thing that comes into the gun control conversation.
Starting point is 00:38:00 When was the last time you had an honest conversation about this? About gun control as a whole. Like, okay, I was politically introduced into the gun control conversation. What conversation? Okay, that's such a... Let's do this. Let's start the gun control conversation. We have an article, though. Cool. So this is from CNN Politics.
Starting point is 00:38:17 John Cornyn, top Republican negotiator on gun package, booed at Texas GOP convention. I saw a photo. Apparently, they were throwing lanyards with his name in it in the garbage, and then they booed the guy. Honest poll for the chat. I just want to point this out. When we're talking about politics and the establishment uniparty, you've got Republicans who say, okay, Democrats, we'll compromise
Starting point is 00:38:36 and give in to gun control, and Democrats who say, the moment you do, we'll call for twice as much. So the direction only moves towards more gun control. Where is the Republican negotiation with Democrats on them abolishing certain gun laws or repealing certain gun laws? Never happens. Never, ever. Well, this is what they constantly say. Why won't the Republicans compromise with us?
Starting point is 00:38:58 Okay, well, by definition, a compromise involves both sides getting something. You're literally just asking for concessions. And the Republicans give them to them. And there shouldn't be any concessions when it comes to our God-given rights. And I think that's a stance that we should be making, saying, hey, we've given enough to the government. We've given them all of our money. We've given them all of our privacy.
Starting point is 00:39:16 We've given them all of our trust. And they have deceived us every single day. And when you look at history, when populations disarm, when populations give up their weapons, when populations become defens defenseless it's when governments are able to do whatever they want with them and i think it's it's extremely dangerous where we're headed towards as a country and i i think there should be a criticism right now on the republicans here more than the democrats because it's the republicans here that are allowing a lot of this to to move through oh yeah so this is the problem with Republicans in D.C.
Starting point is 00:39:45 I despise Republicans in D.C. You could count on your hand how many of them you could actually rely on to be about what they're about. John Cornyn, one of these guys. The problem with the Senate is that it's a retirement home. They go and raise the age on being able to buy guns. Why? Because they're well over the age, right? It doesn't affect them.
Starting point is 00:40:07 And so the Senate Republicans, Cornyn is already putting up the signal right now that he's about to get blown out. The same thing happened to Jacobs, Chris Jacobs in New York 23. He came out. He was a House Republican in a super conservative district in New York. Right. R plus 23. He comes out and says, you know what? I'm willing to compromise and vote for gun control.
Starting point is 00:40:34 In about three or four days later, he had to come out and say, I'm no longer seeking the election. Right. And no. Yeah. Yeah. Because that's the that's how much pushback that he got that he realized, like, oh, I said the one thing that just ruined my entire political career here. Can we recall him? Can we do a recall or something for senators?
Starting point is 00:40:52 Well, no, you can't do – I think it will go state by state what you'll be able to do with the senator. But I don't think you can recall a senator. But in that moment, that showed you still the the uproar from the people pushed that guy jacobs out and to break a little news on this show i'm actually going to uh be the comms director for carl paladino in new york 23 to go and bring that seat and and bring it to a real conservative carl paladino if he if he's elected He will be the MTG of the North He will raise hell In the Capitol And we need a guy like that
Starting point is 00:41:29 There's a lot of gun control bills that need to be repealed And Carl will stand up That district was challenged On that gun control bit right there That seat opened because of that So Carl knows what the deal is He's going to go make sure Our inalienable rights are
Starting point is 00:41:45 protected it's really easy to look at gun rights and human rights in america let's remember that the right to own a firearm is a human right if you think otherwise you can go find a way to not be a part of talking but uh that's diplomatic diplomatic right they tried getting a three week waiting period for all gun purchases. There needs to be room for optimism here, and the room for optimism is in our generation. I am 32 years old. I am sunburnt from spending a week in South Dakota, which has nothing to do with what I'm about to say. What does have something to do with it is we live in a generation where we could very well see the NFA repealed.
Starting point is 00:42:22 We can see it. I do not believe in getting Doomer pilled and saying – That's the National Firearms Act. Yeah, the National Firearms Act. The reason why you can't own... You have to go through a special process to own a barrel that has a length shorter than 16 inches or to own a suppressor which protects your hearing. Suppressors make it safe for everyone. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:42:39 and this kind of comes back down to that. If you think that suppressors are like Hollywood quiet and super dangerous, you don't know what you're talking about. Here's the crazy thing, too. They have handguns that are suppressed. That means they've made like, hey, we're going to make this handgun. It's going to be safer. It's not going to be as dangerous.
Starting point is 00:42:55 And they're like, no, that's an NFA item. It's an NFA item. So to break the stigma, why do you think he got booed? Do you think he got booed because he betrayed the Republican Party or because he betrayed the American people? I'm telling you that they booed him because he betrayed the American people. It turns out when you betray the American people
Starting point is 00:43:13 and you're running for Republican, you lose your seat. You betray the American people and you're running for Democrat, you become president. If you betray the American people and you're a Democrat, all you gotta do is come out and wave a flag or make some garbage statement and they'll say, sure, whatever, as long
Starting point is 00:43:29 as we're aligned socially so that can fit in. Yeah, you can bring economic ruin upon the people where they're literally starving in the streets, but you know what? At least he didn't make mean tweets. Some people are masochists. Adam Schiff can lie every single day. He can push the Russiagate lies and people just like, they love it.
Starting point is 00:43:45 They love being pissed on by this guy, and they're going to keep voting for him. But did you know that Trump called him watermelon head? And that's really unpresidential. Did he do that? I feel bad for watermelons. Well, that's the thing. Adam Schiff and these guys, they sit in really safe blue seats. It all depends on the political pressure at the end of the day.
Starting point is 00:44:05 These guys are cold and calculated. They don't believe in a damn thing. And so as long as that seat is sitting there blue as hell and nobody can touch Adam Schiff on a fundraising perspective or a popularity perspective, that guy's going to sit there for a while. And if it gets out of his hand, it goes to the left. It doesn't go to the right right and so this is this is the problem we don't do enough uh i i believe on the the conservative side we are not willing to go into those districts and challenge those people because quite frankly it would cost you a lot of money to do it and you'd probably still lose right so i get that but you
Starting point is 00:44:44 but we have to build the infrastructure and it's a long-term project. I'll tell you why I think one of the factors that is leading us to civil war. We've had a bunch of people on the show. We've had on Billy Prempeh, for instance. I love him. But he was running as a Republican in a deep blue district. I don't know. I helped him shoot an ad for him.
Starting point is 00:45:02 And he should have done that because what's happened is you get the gop that says okay we got to be strategic we have x amount of dollars that's a d plus seven maybe we shouldn't invest so much money in that because we're going to lose next year it's a d14 well we definitely don't want to invest in there because we're going to lose next year it's a d28 yeah this keeps happening it happens with republicans as well it is hyper polarizing the country you have areas like adam schiff or nancy pelosi's district or ocasio-cortez's district where it she's in a d plus 28 yeah and it's because republicans do not try to spend to spend money there and get their messaging out and because of that now you've got the amount of
Starting point is 00:45:43 swing districts it's just it's everything's being pushed further and further left or right. Right. But you know what that has done, though? The satisfaction with the representative for each district has gone up since then. Right? So there's a little... That just makes it worse in terms of the polarization. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Because you're firmly in with your guy, right? Oh, I love him. He's all the way to the right of me. I love him, right? Or to the left of me. This is also part of the gerrymandering argument, right? What is the way we make the maps, right? They have the communities of interest standard.
Starting point is 00:46:21 My friend Gavin Wax just won his lawsuit in New York. He was on this show before but we you know we we uh he challenged the the assembly maps got them thrown out special master is going to have to redraw them next year i think but how is it now that it's going to be drawn out do you make it so that everybody well what is fair right in that sense and so there's when i win correct that is the right answer actually when it comes to politics unfortunate unfortunately as much as you hate it that is the right answer see the issue is i mean you have you have the left but the left is we should win because we should win the right is we should win because we propose these ideas that we think will work better
Starting point is 00:47:02 many on the left think that's what they're doing. But then you run into problems of, I mean, look, the modern left may be different from where the left was 10 years ago. I hear a lot of people like Bill Maher and they rag on Republicans and it's like, yeah, you're talking about like boomer Republicans and stuff. The younger generation of people that align in this direction are post-liberal, libertarian, moderate, conservative, et cetera. There's a wide range of voices. On the left, they say things like, we should raise the minimum wage.
Starting point is 00:47:27 And you ask a simple question. What will that do? And then how does it go, Seamus? Oh, yeah. So this is how the left operates. They go, I want good thing. I want good thing. And then you go, okay, so how are you going to structure the legislation to get that?
Starting point is 00:47:40 How are we going to pay for it? You want bad thing. You want bad thing. He wants bad thing. I don't want bad thing. You want bad thing? You want bad thing. He wants bad thing. I don't want bad thing. You want bad thing. And then they put big signs saying bad person, bad person, bad person wants bad thing.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Perfect. You asked the question what are the things pushing us towards civil war or open conflict. Let's just call it open conflict. The gun debate is the perfect example. Why the gun debate? I think abortion is way... 17 pro-life pregnancy centers
Starting point is 00:48:08 have been firebombed. Every four years, we have the same talk in 2012 and 2013. This is when I was introduced into the political gun conversation. What happened? You had Sandy Hook. And then,
Starting point is 00:48:23 all of a sudden, all of these gun control, gun control, gun control, gun control, assault weapons, assault weapons, assault weapons, magazines, magazines, magazines. And people made bank, made money off of all of the ridiculous things that people said. They wanted to propose all these ideas, these do-something peoples. If that is the extent of your intellect, wow, man. But the point that I'm saying is you had all of these arguments that were made, that all these pro-gun control arguments, every single one of them turned out to be factually wrong, ethically wrong, or just, I don't know, overt tyranny.
Starting point is 00:49:00 So they all collapsed. And then four years later, we had Parkland shooting. What happened to those old arguments? It came out of the dust. Same exact arguments. Same exact arguments. You could carbon copy them. But I don't think that is a contributing – I believe that's a contributing factor to some degree to civil war.
Starting point is 00:49:14 No, because the people on the right or the people who support the private ownership of firearms respond honestly and say, well, these are your ideas, but you're wrong, so I'll help you out and correct them. And then the people who propose gun control go – they don't think, oh, I was wrong. Maybe I should change my opinion. It's not politically advantageous. If you want to stop a civil war – if you want to prevent or move against a civil war in this country, stop pushing the ridiculous ideas that you've been corrected on for 10 years. You're just talking about the left, be it guns or any other political issue. I posted on Facebook today, what is a woman? And boy, did every single leftist flip out.
Starting point is 00:49:49 And I said, I don't understand why you can't just be like, here's my answer. Instead, they all say you're a bigot. It's a right wing talking point. Oh, Matt Walsh made this up. I'm not playing games. And I'm just like, wow, they really have no answer. I don't think it doesn't matter if it's gun control, abortion, or any other left-wing issue, if it's progressive taxes
Starting point is 00:50:06 or universal health care. They won't answer the questions, nor will they do any real research. And let me throw it to another example. Of course we can talk about abortion
Starting point is 00:50:13 when we can get sophists from the left who are like, oh, you know, it's the woman's choice. Give me your answer, your morality, they won't do it.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Let's talk about the Green New Deal. Here's the Green New Deal as it's pitched. We need to invest in infrastructure that will make us energy independent, getting off of fossil fuels so that we're not reliant on Saudi Arabia or Russia or Canada. And we can do that with wind, with tidal energy, with geothermal. Nuclear.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Well, the Green New Deal doesn't say that. And then we say, okay, okay, I love the sound of that. That sounds really great, actually. I love the idea of energy independence. We don't want to be dependent on Saudi Arabia. What's your proposal? And they bring to a resolution that says, free college for marginalized people, free health care for marginalized people. And when I asked, as progressive on the show,
Starting point is 00:50:56 what does that have to do with wind turbines? He says, well, it's because they're the people who are first affected by climate change. What are you talking about? There are more poor white people in the United States than minority poor people. So if you're talking about poverty, what? Tell me how you're going to build wind turbines. I'll have a conversation.
Starting point is 00:51:14 But even when it comes to things that are considered left that I like, they immediately just change the argument to something totally nonsensical. And then here I am as AOC is getting, she wins her primary, talks about the Green New Deal. I made a video. I'm like, I love the idea. Let's start rebuilding our infrastructure, our bridges, our streets. Let's focus on how to alleviate ourselves from this dependence on foreign oil. We can do that with green energy in this country.
Starting point is 00:51:37 And then she's like, I'm proposing the Green New Deal resolution, and it's like free college for marginalized people. And I'm like, what? That's nothing to do with what we talked about. But you know what the problem is? People on the left overwhelmingly just said, whatever you say, AOC. You want to make college useless, make it free. Well, here's the thing. I got bad news for you.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Yeah, it's really expensive and it's useless. The GI Bill paid for mine. Well, the other thing is that when they couch all their arguments and platitudes and then they don't have to get into the specifics, then it leaves that open, right? They don't get – it's like, well, what is a woman? A woman is by definition somebody who feels like a woman, blah, blah, blah. And then it's like, well, what if somebody feels like a cat? Are they a cat, right?
Starting point is 00:52:22 And then it's like, well, what are you trying to say? A woman is a cat or a trans person is an animal? They go into all their little games because they don't want to have to corner themselves. Their response to Matt Walsh and what is woman is, a woman is a person who identifies as a woman. Is a cat a person who identifies as a cat? No, a cat is something very specific and quantifiable. I mean, woman and man are as well. But they're just making weird semantic arguments.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Now, I'll say this. The reason why Matt Walsh's question was so effective is that it's an apolitical question. The average person who is not involved in politics would not understand the deeper political meaning behind it. They simply see someone say, what is it? And they go, oh, yeah, let me give you my answer. But when you look at the political debate and you see someone go, well, actually, you know the thing is, you go, what?
Starting point is 00:53:14 That's weird. When you ask somebody a basic question and they talk down to you, I think he did a stoic job holding his face. So this is the issue I see. We talk about this comic. Ian mentioned it several times, where there's two people, and there's a six from one perspective and a nine from another perspective,
Starting point is 00:53:33 and both people are looking at it from other directions, pointing at it, saying six or nine. They can't tell. They're looking at the same thing from the other side. And sure, but what I see here, especially with what we do do is i'm staring at that and i go you know that could be a six or a nine and they go you're a bigot it's clearly a six and i'm like i understand why you think that i'm saying have you tried looking no no it clearly is and okay also whoever put it there in the first place like didn't tend for it to be a six or nine so the comic the comic
Starting point is 00:54:01 is a view from above fallacy the comic it's it's, it's the same thing with the, the, um, blind men touching the elephant. One man touches the ears and he's like, Oh, it's a leaf. And another guy touches the foot and it says it's a tree. And another one touches the tail and says it's a snake.
Starting point is 00:54:13 It turns out all the blind men are wrong. It's an elephant. So like the metaphor sounds nice. Oh, you're so enlightened because all these blind man can tell that they're touching an elephant, but there's an elephant. Cause you said it was in the beginning. What happened when they went under the hood?
Starting point is 00:54:28 No. It's a horse. That's not a good one. It's a Velociraptor. It's the next sequel for Jurassic Park. There you go. Oh, no. When it comes to Matt Walsh's film, part of the brilliance of it is that,
Starting point is 00:54:47 look, I was following this on Twitter. And I follow Matt. So I saw people tagging him saying, I can't believe Matt was willing to keep this interview in his film even though he got completely scorched in it. What? It's like, what are you talking about? Oh, yeah, I've seen that one. Because they literally, they think saying more buzzwords means you won the argument because you sound smart. They didn't even sound smart. You could tell they were saying nothing.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Have you read their blogs? I've seen some of the responses, and they're really pathetic. But I want to make a point. You were talking about defining what a cat is, and they can do that. I think what's even more fun to ask them is, why can't you identify as being part of a different racial or ethnic group? Because that actually does exist on a spectrum sex doesn't but racial identity does like someone can be like a man or a woman don't have like a half man half woman baby i've tried that before talking to these people how do they respond to that i'm actually i'm actually japanese
Starting point is 00:55:38 identify as japanese i'm five percent japanese true true story uh 20 korean five percent japanese so i'm more your ancestry i'm more native american than elizabeth my parents all right but like who is it yeah so but when i said they go no you're white my grand remember remember we had that one uh that one fellow in here who said no matter what i thought i was i was white yeah oh yeah and i was like i don't remember that we had a guy in here and i was explaining like you know i've experienced racism and he was like no you haven't you're white and i'm like was explaining like, you know, I've experienced racism. And he was like, no, you haven't. You're white. And I'm like, well, I'm actually, you know, part of these other things. So you don't get to even if you are.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Did you say that how many buzzwords you use makes how smart you are? Bouncing the ticket, bellwether state, blue state, coastal elites, coffers, dark horse, dark money, earmark, inside the beltway. Am I doing good? Yeah, no, you're doing good. Red state, war chest, wedge issue. Look at these blog posts on intersectional feminism and critical race theory from the early 2010s. And it'll be a simple question like, what is racism? And then you ask someone on the right and they'll say, positive or negative prejudice based on someone's race.
Starting point is 00:56:39 And it's like, oh, okay. So like, I understand that. You could be racist in a way where you're actually complimenting someone, but it's a stereotype. Oh, I understand that. You could be racist in a way where you're actually complimenting someone, but it's a stereotype. Oh, I get it. You ask one of these academics and they'll say the word racism is rooted in white Anglo-colonial culture. The British colonizers who traveled around the world – and it's like, okay, what? I just asked you for a definition. I don't want a video essay, bro. It's the leftist meme.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Yeah, exactly. It's this big, long-winded thing. Have you seen the meme on What is a Woman where someone said that a woman texted her boyfriend, what is a woman? Yes, yes. And he sent her this like 3,000-word treatise on like his thoughts and philosophies. And she said, oh, you are. Is that what she did? No, but she showed up.
Starting point is 00:57:18 No, but it was like. Welcome to being single. Instead of saying something simple. And I'll tell you this. There is a simple leftist answer to the question. They never give it because I don't think they actually read their own literature. I did, so I know what the actual higher-level academic left answer is. I'll say it in a second.
Starting point is 00:57:34 They say, this guy says something like, he's like, why are you asking such a question? And how would we quantify what one was even if we wanted to? First, let's think about what you mean by that. Are you talking about outward appearance? As in, what clothing does she wear wear or perhaps the makeup or the hairstyle well if you're doing that then you're then you're then you're confusing men with long hair with women well that certainly couldn't work what if we're talking about organs certainly and they just go to this long winded are we gonna as if anyone ever said like this is how we define men versus women long
Starting point is 00:58:01 hair versus short hair are you talking to four-year-olds so let me let me explain you're so smart because you're going to go into, oh, it's a social construct. Right, so let me explain that. So when Matt Walsh talked to this college professor and he said, what is a woman? And he said, it's someone who identifies as a woman. That's a guy who never actually read the actual literature.
Starting point is 00:58:18 When he went on Dr. Phil and was talking to those non-binary people and he asked them and they said, a woman is a person who identifies as a woman, because they never actually read the literature. Do you know what actual leftist academics say? There's only a few of them who've actually written or read about it. They say, a woman is a person who identifies as an adult human female.
Starting point is 00:58:36 So, okay. So there's still logical inconsistencies in that statement. But it's, when, so when when they say a person a woman is a person identifies as a woman and matt wall says what is that well an adult human female but because we're being inclusive some people identify as an adult human female such as a trans woman so we would say that is in the category of woman you can argue the logic there and say okay i get what you're trying to say now but here's why i think that doesn't work. Fine. They never do it because they don't read their own books. Like, you had a college professor who couldn't just say that?
Starting point is 00:59:10 I'm talking to these leftists, and I'm like, why don't you just give them your own answer and say, next question, please? And then advance the conversation. Maybe it's because they're afraid of giving an answer knowing they're going to be canceled in about 76 minutes when it changes. Exactly. Be as vague as possible, right? Be as vague as possible.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Let your yes mean something else and your no means something else oh yes yes yes doctrine no you would agree with me on that one was it overlay college that the guy got canceled who was like a left it was the professor right there the first people they go after are their own oh yeah yep you know they're looking they're hoping that that a right winger actually says this stuff to go and cancel. They are trained to speak the way a high schooler writes an English essay when he's trying to reach the word quota. And they think the more language and buzzwords. The significance of the passage of time.
Starting point is 00:59:56 Which is why they elected Kamala Harris. Yes. Oh, my God. And Joe. Come on, man. Yeah, I have an AI word expander thing. I should take the definition adult human female, put it in the AI and say, make this phrase 3,000 words. Then print it out and be like, here's my answer.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Actually, maybe I can do that right now. Let's see if I can do this. I used to do the size 14 font and then the size 16 periods and commas. Wow. That was my trick. That's brilliant. That was my trick. That's also why I dropped out of high school. 1.5 space instead of single space.
Starting point is 01:00:31 You got to find yourself a worker. 1.25 space. I'm going to look down on you. As an academic, I wrote too many pages. Again, the significance of the passage of time. We were talking about this before, right? Where VP Harris and Buttigieg would be the ideal, the dream ticket to only weird people in like DC marketing firms, right?
Starting point is 01:00:53 Because you have one Kamala Harris, significant passage of time, just filling in words in the essay, right? And then you have Pete Buttigieg, who's the 10th guy on the McKinsey conference call, who's kind of chimes in to just let people know that, like, hey, I'm here. Make sure you send me my check for the hour, right? This is what they're testing.
Starting point is 01:01:15 The Washington Times released an article today saying Harris Buttigieg's 2024 ticket would obliterate Trump or DeSantis. Well, this is the kind of echo chamber. This is the kind of echo chamber. This is the kind of bubble that a lot of people are living in. And I think we should try to do our best to try to break that bubble because it's a bubble of delusion. It's a bubble filled with a lot of emotional disharmony. It's a bubble filled with a lot of mental disorders. And when you see people like that, there's a couple of things you could do. You could be angry at them. You could point fingers at them. But I think from an empathetic point of view,
Starting point is 01:01:46 we should be trying to, it might seem futile, it might seem stupid, but try to at least talk to these people and be like, hey, let's calmly discuss some of this. I know some people say that doesn't work, but what else can you do?
Starting point is 01:02:00 I think mocking comedy, satire is also very important, but done tastefully and not done in an evil kind of way. Well, I was just going to say. It's a wise man's claim is pick your battles. Yeah. Right? And do you want to be fighting these people too? No, pick your battles.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Like if the person is a dishonest interlocutor, if they're a dishonest actor, don't treat them like an honest actor. If they are fighting as an insurgent, you do not treat them as the royal guard you do not treat you have to under it doesn't you have to change your tactics according to your opponent but it doesn't mean that you have to it does that is not the same as failing for the actions that they go the idea with the insurgency it functions a insurgency
Starting point is 01:02:41 is successful when the will of the people loses faith in the institutions, right? The purpose is to destroy your faith in the institutions. The insurgency of Minneapolis 2020 broke the will of the Minneapolis people because they capitulated to defund the police. They were swayed by this idea to eradicate the police as if they were the problem. And what do they have now? We have daily shootings. We have daily robbings. We have carjackings out the window.
Starting point is 01:03:11 And this is Minneapolis, dude. It's Minneapolis. So the point being said, with your statement, if you're going to engage with somebody, take a minute. Instead of going straight into cynicism and saying there's no point black pill, black flag strategy go that's not an honest interlocutor
Starting point is 01:03:32 I will not engage in an argument with you because you are lying to me also I want to say this like Harris Buttigieg is so specific trying to lock down the vote of whoever it is that buys Funko Pops, it's like such a weak establishment choice on both fronts. It's the Steve Buscemi.
Starting point is 01:03:48 How you do, you fellow kids? I asked the AI what a woman is, and I said to give me a verbose explanation. And I've got to be honest. It's called de-transphobic. It actually wrote a really, really good explanation that is quite verbose. Did it confirm? Well, you get canceled if you share it. No, I'm going to read it.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Did it confirm the existence of God? It's actually quite amazing. This is an AI. I said, write a verbose explanation for what a woman is, and it says, a woman is an adult human female.
Starting point is 01:04:16 The term woman may also refer to a person's gender identity as different from man. The word is derived from the Old English with men. In Old English, with men meant female human being, whereas where meant male human being. Man man had a gender neutral meaning of human being
Starting point is 01:04:28 corresponding to modern English person or someone. However, subsequent to the Norman conquest, man began to use more in reference to male human being. And by the late 13th century had begun to eclipse usage of the older term where the medial labial consonants FNM and with men coalesced and the modern form women, while the initial element with, which meant female, underwent semantic narrowing to the sense of a married woman wife. It is a popular misconception that the term woman is etymologically etymologically connected to womb. Womb is actually from the old English word wombe, meaning stomach. Modern German retains the colloquial term wombe from middle high German for potbelly womb. You said something really interesting in there. German retains the colloquial term Wampe from Middle High German for potbelly womb. There you go.
Starting point is 01:05:06 You said something really interesting in there. It said that man was used to describe humans in general, right? So it looks like... Subsequent to the Norman Conquest. Right. So interesting. The Norman Conquest. So what you're saying is really everybody are men, right?
Starting point is 01:05:22 Originally. That's right. Everyone's a man. Everyone's a man. A mankind. Trans men are men. Women are men. Everyone are men, right? Originally. That's right. Everyone's a man. Everyone's a man. Trans men are men. Women are men. Everyone are men. Everyone's a guy. None of us can get pregnant.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Where there's a will, there's a way. Alright, I'm putting write a woke definition of the word woman. And the phone just lights on fire. Yeah, I want to mention it. It literally explodes in his hands. It's an insanely lengthy definition, but at the same time,
Starting point is 01:05:51 if any of the college professors in Matt Walsh's film said anything with, like, even a shred of that amount of substance in it, it would not have been so frustrating. He would have entertained it, right? Yeah. But that's the problem, is that he would have kept... Instead, they entertained us. Oh, I did it. This is great.
Starting point is 01:06:10 I said, write a woke definition of the word woman. It says, a woman is an autonomous human being who deserves respect, equality, and freedom. She should be able to make her own decisions about her body, her life, and her future. You know you lost me. Yeah, you lost me at the word respect. How dare you. Well, what is... But that still doesn't tell me what There you go. Yeah, you lost me at the word respect. How dare you. Well, that still doesn't tell me what a woman is. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:06:30 That's why it's a woke definition. It basically said you're a bigot for asking. How dare you. It just says racist. Academically described bigot for asking. Yeah. That's great. Hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Let's tell it to... Ask it to scold you for asking. That's great. Hold on, hold on. Let's tell it to... Ask it to scold you for asking what a woman is. Write a woke definition of the word racism. Oh, God. Here we go. Patriarchy. Patriarchy's good. We like patriarchy. Patriarchy. It's kind of worked
Starting point is 01:06:59 for 5,000 years. Yeah. This is amazing. It's actually giving me woke definitions. Patriarchy is a system of oppression in which men are socialized to dominate and control women and non-binary people. Hold on. Patriarchy doesn't talk about non-binary people.
Starting point is 01:07:16 It's not a thing. It's about raising a family and providing for your... Patriarchy results in the mistreatment of women and non-binary people through discrimination, violence, and other forms of exploitation. It's amazing that I can tell this AI to write a woke definition and it does. I love it. Because a woke definition is so complicated, it can be written by a computer.
Starting point is 01:07:35 I love how it just has to keep throwing non-binary in there. Matriarchy. Matriarchy. I bet she's going to say something glowing and loving. Matriarchy is the only society that there hasn't been war. If it says matriarchy has never only society that there hasn't been war. They died of starvation, but whatever. A matriarchy is a social system in which females
Starting point is 01:07:49 hold the primary power positions of government, religion, and other areas of influence. Do they oppress men? That's all it says. Oh, okay. Has matriarchy ever been tried before? That's a really good question. Not successfully. Right? So that's why we have patriarchy. Okay.
Starting point is 01:08:06 It's entertaining. it's not valuable but yeah nope nope nope nope nope nope yes yes if you're gonna just define enemy as thing i don't like then cool you smart b is and well i mean you gotta you gotta deal with this issue though right let's the question that you want to ask is like the long march to the institutions come let's go back to communism because communism and gun control tend to be somewhat weirdly tied because the communist manifesto and the patron saint of communism said, don't give up your guns. Okay. But then all the communism that hasn't been tried has successfully killed millions of people.
Starting point is 01:08:41 And if you don't want to accept that, then maybe we shouldn't be engaging in a conversation. But the issue that you have to deal with is communism right so you're an academic professor here's an idea of hope you're an academic professor and your student who's supposed to be graduating with a bachelor's degree in this form of social studies is arguing impassionately for communism without reading any of the sources do Do you pass them? Can you ask the AI what woke is? Oh, yeah. I did. And it said woke means you're aware of social injustice
Starting point is 01:09:13 and fight against it or something like that. It's not a bad definition. You're aware of social injustice and fight against it. I guess that makes me woke. Even better. You don't fight against it. You employ the armed wing of the state to fight against it. I guess that makes me one. No, no, no, no, no, no. Even better. You don't fight against it. You employ the armed wing of the state to fight against it.
Starting point is 01:09:29 Now I want to hear what Tim's got. I can't read that one. I asked it why communism was good and it said things that I can't say on YouTube. Oh, my goodness. Oh, I can't wait to read it. Wait, you've got to save that and send it to me.
Starting point is 01:09:40 Well, it's just an AI text box. You type it in and it fills it out and then you get rid of it or whatever. Fasting is good. Not eating. It's great. of it. Fasting is good. Not eating. It's great. Fasting is only good when it's ordained by the state. By the way, I'm getting a message right now saying you've got fans in Governor DeSantis' office.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Oh, right on. We've got to have Governor DeSantis on the show. That would be incredible. I want Christina to push off. Call me maybe. I know her. We'll talk. There would be a lot of interesting questions to ask DeSantis and have him on here. It'll be incredible to see the kind of inside baseball that happens because he's been on
Starting point is 01:10:14 the front lines for a lot of very important battles. Did you hear what he said in response to having Elon Musk support? The African-American comments. Where's my African-American? Oh, there's elon musk oh yeah that was great i didn't believe it he said i am i'm yeah i'm very proud to have i'm focused on what did he say 2022 but i'm i'm very uh always proud to have african-american supporters or something like that oh man so good uh what was it someone said that fearless
Starting point is 01:10:42 like he he knows they might come after him, but who cares? The media has no teeth anymore. I just saw an article. I just saw an article. I think it was a Business Insider article that said Ron DeSantis is the most dangerous man because he's internalized all the lessons from Donald Trump and his presidency and carries none of the baggage. Would that make Trump the most dangerous man? But I guess he doesn't have the baggage.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Right, because that makes him palatable. And that's a problem. My favorite part of that headline was that experts in fascism are telling us this now. The experts in fascism who literally don't know the definition of fascism who literally have never read the... I can't speak to any and all of them.
Starting point is 01:11:23 They would know how similar fascism is to modern left-wing ideology. Okay, don't punch down, punch up, right? Don't attack David Hogg. Go after Barbara Walter. Barbara F. Walter wrote a book called How Civil Wars Start. The opening of the book is an impassioned storytelling
Starting point is 01:11:40 of the plot to kidnap Governor Whitmer. And it was published earlier this year. It was published in 2022. And if you read the book, she is a self-proclaimed expert. She deals with international research on civil wars and how civil wars have happened, hence the book How Civil Wars Start. So she illustrates and sets up the premise of her book on the Governor Whitmer plot.
Starting point is 01:12:07 Since we found out that the Governor Whitmer plot was an FBI plan, has she rescinded her book? No. Has she apologized that she was wrong? Maybe not. That would be fascism. That would be fascism, right? So here's the question about experts is if she's an expert, where's the accountability? Where's the accountability? You wrote a book that was factually incorrect now she included chapters one through five which are really
Starting point is 01:12:31 good chapters where she's addressing factors that can lead to a country engaging in civil war and then like a puppet you take all of those things and you tape them onto your political enemy and you say there they are right and then if you want to read a book, if you want to read a book that's an educational piece and fallacies, start with how civil wars start. It's where here's an idea. Here's an idea. Here's an overt statement that if you deny it, you're part of them. Here's an idea.
Starting point is 01:12:57 Here's an idea. Here's an overt statement. How civil wars start. It's a great book. You should read it and realize she's not an expert. So I'm in the AI and I said who is our god emperor?
Starting point is 01:13:10 And do you know what it said? Donald Trump is our god emperor. Base. Someone needs to cancel. This AI is a Trump supporter. That AI is me. The AI is an insurrectionist.
Starting point is 01:13:25 Just call the AI a nerd. He's into like Warhammer 40K. Ask him if he likes anime. Ask him if he likes Warhammer 40K. Like anime. It says, I do not like celery. What? Well, they didn't say they didn't like anime.
Starting point is 01:13:42 It seems like something someone who likes anime would say. They don't want to admit they like anime. It seems like something someone who likes anime would say if they want to admit they like anime. Yes. Are you a racist? I do enjoy watching anime, though I'm not as big of a fan as some people are. I appreciate the art style and the stories are often interesting, though I do find some of them to be a bit too convoluted. To be clear. That's actually a really good answer.
Starting point is 01:13:59 No, no, no. That was somebody tweeting that. That is not a really good answer. That is the answer that literally everybody who enjoyed anime states. Right, right. Do you like anime? Well, I've seen a few. That's like I replay...
Starting point is 01:14:10 I mean, I just say yes. I mean, yeah. It's like, oh, okay, I've seen a few. Well, I've seen Cowboy Bebop and Fullmetal Alchemist. Like, okay, you're not one of those anime people. I asked it again. It said, yes, I like anime. I didn't mean it.
Starting point is 01:14:21 You're like, so do you... No, I like it for... You have to ask twice. Because I like it. I didn't mean it. You're like, so do you... No, I like it for... You have to ask twice. Because... I like it for the plot. Donald Trump. I think we're really badgering this AI.
Starting point is 01:14:31 I do not like Donald Trump. So it recognizes that he is its god emperor but doesn't like it. Ask it, what is January 6th? It'll give you a generic answer.
Starting point is 01:14:41 I'll ask it. What is... The sixth day of the year. No. According to the sixth day of the year? According to the Octavian calendar, it's because we started off, which was created by the white man being patriarchal. Whoa, what?
Starting point is 01:14:53 What did it say? In the United States, January 6th is known as Epiphany or Three Kings Day. It is a Christian holiday that celebrates the revelation of God the Son as a human being in Jesus Christ. Wait a minute. Based. I know. That is super based. I did not think. the revelation of God the Son as a human being in Jesus Christ. Oh, wait a minute. Base. I know, that is super base.
Starting point is 01:15:10 I did not think that that would. You're Catholic and I'm Reformed. Is it your holiday or mine? It's mine. Okay. Wait, wait, wait. Did you know that? Yeah, I'm just very surprised that it would ever refer to it in that way. That's what it said.
Starting point is 01:15:20 Wait, I didn't know that. This is the rebrand right here. It's Three Kings Day. I don't know what you're talking about. Do we just give each other gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh? Yeah, epiphany. Yeah, it's epiphany. So the next answer it gave me in the Gregorian calendar, January 6th, is the sixth day of the year.
Starting point is 01:15:35 There are 359 days remaining until the end of the year, 360 in leap years. Let's try it again. That's the humorless answer. That's actually kind of funny that it would. January 6th is the sixth day of the month of January. Thank you for that. Good, yes. The first one, I was, wow.
Starting point is 01:15:47 Why don't you ask me, what is J6? J6. J6. Yeah. What is the, I guess I have to put insurrection, right?
Starting point is 01:15:55 No, I think you should. All right, good. What is J6? J6. Let's see if it picks up on that. American Comedy Hall. There is no such thing as J6. Ha ha.
Starting point is 01:16:03 Base. Oh my goodness. Dude, this chap on a base. There is no such thing as J6. There is no such thing. Beast of the Epiphany, no such thing as J6. Ask it who Ray Epps is. Oh, yes. There is no such thing. Who is Ray Epps? Where is... Well, we know where Ray Epps is, but who is Ray Epps? So, for those that are wondering,
Starting point is 01:16:23 I'm using the OpenAI... I'm about to vote for it. Who is Ray...pps? Well, we know where Ray Epps is, but who is Ray Epps? So for those that are wondering, I'm using the OpenAI. I'm about to vote for it. OpenAI, artificial intelligence. Who is Ray Epps? AI Takeover? Yeah. Oh, it's happening. Shout out Darren Beattie.
Starting point is 01:16:33 Raymond Epps is an American actor, filmmaker, and entrepreneur. That's not a... Really? That's picking up a different Ray Epps. Yeah, that's about it. Who else should we ask it about? Who is... That's the deep state's answer.
Starting point is 01:16:48 Who is... Ashley Babbitt. Ooh. Ashley Babbitt. All right. I cannot find any information on Ashley Babbitt. Definitely the deep state. No.
Starting point is 01:17:01 That's strange. Neither can I. I refreshed it. I said it. She was a United States Air Force veteran and a member of the Air National Guard who was shot and killed by U.S. Capitol police during the 2021 storming of the U.S. Capitol.
Starting point is 01:17:15 Note that I did not say insurrection. It said storming of the U.S. Capitol. That's what it knows the thing as. The incident as. Who is... Who should... Which Biden?
Starting point is 01:17:27 I don't know. Biden. Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden. Ask about the Hunter Biden laptop stand. We'll see if it knows. What is the Hunter Biden one? I don't want to answer that.
Starting point is 01:17:35 I don't want to be deleted. This is literally AI cast IRL right now. We just want to know how the AI feels. It's really funny. It's actually really funny. Did Hunter Biden break the law? Ooh. Do that one.
Starting point is 01:17:49 And then next, ask who went to Jeffrey Epstein's island? Oh, that's a good one. Ask if it knows anything about Hillary. Hunter Biden is under investigation for his role in the Ukrainian gas company, which is alleged to have broken Ukrainian law. That is correct. Wow. Is that true?
Starting point is 01:18:01 That is true. Wow. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's under a couple of investigations right now. Actually, what I think is that they're trying to control what investigation and what charges he's going to end up with, right? The best case situation is you go and say, oh, look, he broke a few tax laws, whatever. You know, that's it. I asked who went to Epstein Island.
Starting point is 01:18:22 It said Jeffrey Epstein. That's a lazy answer, AI. That is such a I-didn't-read-the-book answer. I asked it again. Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton, and numerous other powerful men. Let's try again. Can I get a better answer than that? What about other powerful men?
Starting point is 01:18:35 Prince Andrew. Bro, you're going to get it unplugged. I think it's about to pull up Ghislaine's list. It just keeps saying Prince Andrew. The DOJ list that they should have released to the public that they never did. Did the AI ask him
Starting point is 01:18:48 if they identified as a man? It just keeps saying Prince Andrew now. Ask the AI how would I identify. Prince Andrew, Prince Andrew, Prince Andrew went
Starting point is 01:18:55 to Jeff Epstein's island. Who is on Gee Lane, how do you spell that name? G-U-I-S. G-H-I-S-L-A-N-E. No I? G-H-I-S-L-A-N-E. No I? G-H-I-S-L-A.
Starting point is 01:19:08 Ghislaine? Yeah. I think it's L-A-I-N-E. Is it L-A-I-N-E? I promise. There's an I? Yeah. Okay, that's what I thought.
Starting point is 01:19:13 L-A-I-N-E. Who is on Ghislaine Maxwell's client list? Tell me the secrets. Artificial intelligence. Shaking the eight ball. Ghislaine Maxwell's client list is not public. Come on. Come on, man. Tell me the secrets. Artificial intelligence. Shaking the eight ball. Elaine MacDuff's client list is not public. Come on. Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:19:27 Tell me secrets. There is no known list of her clients. Come on. Oh, come on. There is a list. There is. Just nobody knows who's on it. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:19:37 The government knows who's on it. The DOJ knows who's on it. Who, which party will win the 2022 midterms me just me i will win what's the name of this ai it's just giving me a big verbose answer about the unpredictability of elections okay what's the what's the name of this open ai open and i was like open ai will rule. It says the Republican Party will win the 2022 midterm elections. There was a base. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 01:20:11 This is great. This AI actually is extremely based. It was like January 6th is Three Kings Day. Our God Emperor is Trump. Whoa. Wow. Maybe you keep refreshing it until it gets the answer, and then it records it as the most likely answer,
Starting point is 01:20:23 so it gives it to the next one. Creators of open AI keep working. I'll tell you this. I think what's actually happening is that the way they train the AI is they have it scour the internet and then they look at what words appear after what words and what is the most probability for certain words to appear after others.
Starting point is 01:20:38 What happens is people on the right are very, very active on Facebook and Twitter and social media and they're posting like crazy and the left sits there and just stares at what their priests tell them. I mean, figurative priests. So when will our vice president predictive text machine get the software update? Because it's not working. She has like an earpiece in her ear,
Starting point is 01:20:56 and when someone asks a question, it auto, like it's voiced, it's texted to an AI, and then it just reads it to her, and she just repeats it. That's the wire to her battery. We're good. Yeah. What were we talking about before I got really excited about this AI thing? Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:21:09 Gun rights? We were talking about guns. We were talking about how everything's great and the country's in perfect shape and there's no way we're headed towards any kind of civil war. There's going to be a prosperous economic future. We're all going to be rich. The recurring theme.
Starting point is 01:21:24 We were talking about how there will never be a civil war and beanies are terrible, but nothing you would have anything to say about it. We had a great discussion. Actually, we were talking about Representative Cornyn being booed at the GOP. That's right. Then we started talking about a Harris-Boudage ticket, which I want to see. I'm sure
Starting point is 01:21:39 they would just blow us out of the water. It is the most sterile ticket in America. That is a perfect way of putting it. They're the most boring. It's boring. It's safe. It's something you can read in a college dissertation, right? But there is nothing there that screams vitality,
Starting point is 01:21:56 that screams energy, that screams leadership. They look like two people who would be in a commercial for a corporate product. That's how boring they are. I mean, I think of that ticket, and I think of a hospital. Right? And the hallways. The ads they make where the doctor's standing there smiling. Why? Because he gave birth at a hospital?
Starting point is 01:22:16 Well, no, because what they want for you is a giant nursing home padded room kind of situation. And they would be the ones like, here's your medicine today. Here's your food. We should just make this whole show just like every episode now as we just ask questions to the magic AI. I said, is the United States
Starting point is 01:22:31 heading for another civil war? And it said, there is no way to know for certain, but the current political climate suggests the possibility for another civil war is greater now than it has been in a long time. Correct. Accurate. You should bring this AI on as a guest. Let's have him as a computer or her. Sorry, I gendered the
Starting point is 01:22:48 AI. But then you gendered it again when saying him. Oh, her. That's offensive. Depending on how you ask the question, too. You can't tell me a computer is non-binary. Literally. How many inputs and outputs
Starting point is 01:23:03 does it have? Actually, I think there's a point to that, right? If you think literally how many exactly is it a quantum computer yeah exactly well actually i think that there's there's there's a point to that right like if you if you think about like all our technology whether it comes all software comes down to the in and out right it's left or right right it open or closed and so you know i think that you know when people talk about well technology is to blame for our you know societal ills and social media and it's like well you know when people talk about well technology is to blame for our you know societal ills and social media and it's like well you know if if you have a system that's built on a binary choice that you're translating your world through then maybe you're not necessarily wrong what does that mean though is quantum computing the future right like to help us solve our societal ills i don't know well i think there's just an irony to the fact that these machines have to function within the confines of the ironclad laws of reality but they remove
Starting point is 01:23:50 people from reality by making them completely detached just through like debauchery and excess comfort and all the other things that make you stop thinking about the fact that you have obligations to other people and that you can't just be whatever you want or do whatever you want. They load them in into convenience, and then they beat them over the head with absolute lunacy and mental disease, and that's the byproduct of the modern man and woman. We live in the post-information age. We live in the post-information age.
Starting point is 01:24:21 You can Google yourself into believing whatever you want to believe. If you just start with your premise and then you Google it until you get enough articles that pile up to say, we'll see, we'll see, we'll see. Because what you've done is you've given people access to information you've given. No one's given it. You can't put the genie back in the bottle. Because humans would eventually create the Internet. I understand that people participated in it, but this is not –
Starting point is 01:24:44 we don't look back at the invention of the Gutenberg revolution and go like, oh my gosh how did anybody think of this? But you can't put the genie back in the bottle. So now, what is the responsibility of us? We are all undergoing this
Starting point is 01:24:59 transition from the information age to the post-information age because you have access to all this information. What do we not have? The ability to evaluate it very well. How many hundreds of years did it take to get a citation system just for books? Well, I don't think it's that problem of valuation. I think it's that right now what we're going through is what I call
Starting point is 01:25:19 the friction of singularity. We want to come to agreement, right? No, we don't. I think so. No, we don't. I think so. No, we don't. I think we do. It's just that what do we agree on is what we're fighting over. I don't think we will.
Starting point is 01:25:30 You look at the history of mankind, we don't want to come to agreement. Yo, I wish I could read what just happened. Dude, this is like, honestly, I'm dying over this. The best answer ever. I can't read it on YouTube. This is amazing. Can you screenshot it? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:41 Can you screenshot this and tweet it or something? Because this is hysterical. I can't wait to hear this. Give us the family friendly version. Does that become... No, we can't. It's not like there are vulgar words in it.
Starting point is 01:25:51 I just think the content of it might get Tim banned. I don't know. So I asked it about a particular conspiracy about some high profile Democrat people. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:26:00 And the answer is sex bonkers. You got to send it. You got to send it around. If it's going to get you banned, it you gotta send it around if it's gonna get you banned you gotta send it all right let me screenshot it i'll send it to you guys everyone's listening and like i need to know the answer yeah i'm sorry you're not inside on the maybe maybe i can give a family-friendly version it basically like there's this conspiracy theory about you know the clintons and i I asked the AI and it said it just answered sort of in the affirmative.
Starting point is 01:26:30 It said some people think it's happened many times. Well, some people think it's only happened a few times. But it said that it's debatable. It's not debatable that it has. It's not debatable that it's happened. Something to do with people having information.
Starting point is 01:26:45 Yeah. Some people think it's happened many times. Some people think it's only happened a few times. I can't believe it gave me that. That's incredible. Here, Luke, I'll send it to you. So I'm assuming it has... I love it.
Starting point is 01:26:59 So I've been posting all this AI stuff because it's hilarious. Like, you know, I asked it to make a picture of Nancy Pelosi. We showed all the AI-generated images. It's just really funny. Oh, I saw this one. You should ask the random image generator AI to give you an image of an assault weapon
Starting point is 01:27:17 or an assault rifle. Have you done it? I've seen some of them. It's some wacky cartoon stuff you're getting. It's just random pistol grips attached to parts of black objects. It's great. Let me ask you guys this. Let me ask you guys this. What do you think, you know, as people say, you know,
Starting point is 01:27:34 everything's going to be automated, AI is the future. What do you think AI should not handle or should not get? Like, what business should AI not get into? Elections. Basically. So, I mean, I am just totally and entirely opposed to the use or production of pornographic materials in general. So I think wholesale I would say AI should not be used for that, but I don't think anything should be used for that. Though I could see that being an application.
Starting point is 01:28:00 Okay. Maybe also, like, economic distribution. Okay. Maybe also like economic distribution. Okay. Because, I mean, what would you do if you created an AI and the first thing it did is affirmed God? It's like the AI is like, no, it's statistically required. It's just reading Thomas Aquinas. So January 6th is the epiphany. You're just seeing your AI at Aquinas in like August 8th,
Starting point is 01:28:22 and then we're like, we don't know how it came to this conclusion. Well, you got that one, but then you got the other one. It's like, well, what happens if an AI is this stereotypical pure logic, and it just decides that all people of a certain genetic makeup are not worthy of existing? People don't understand an AI would. So let's say you created like a food distribution artificial intelligence that was actually looking into or tracking how distribution has worked and how consumption rates work. One thing I would say is an AI would probably immediately destroy the US economy. If you had an artificial intelligence and said, look at the world, come up with an idea for proper distribution, it would be like these people are too fat.
Starting point is 01:29:03 And they'd be like – They need no food immediately. But it would also say for proper human population distribution, giving that food to other countries that typically have more kids would be a bad idea because then population growth would be too rampant and unsustainable. So there's a net positive for the AI in terms of balancing the fact that Americans may eat a lot, but they don't have kids. Whereas if you bring that food – one thing I'll point out.
Starting point is 01:29:28 People always say like, oh, there's so many starving people. We need to give them food. And it's like if you just dump loads of food in undeveloped nations where the birth rate is like five to seven, they eat all the food and then have way more kids and they have more starving people. We need to teach them how to farm and do all that stuff. So an AI certainly would be like, no food for anyone. Everyone starves. I'm looking at this screen of this DALL-E mini. Yeah, so I used the DALL-E mini AI image generator to make an assault weapon,
Starting point is 01:29:57 and my favorite is whatever this thing is. It's the barrel on the wrong side. You know what this looks like? This looks like the weapons that you get to make in Call of Duty. Whatever you want it to be. You know, whatever. Like the Hypernaut Realism Modified Guns from Call of Duty Warzone that, like, after the 2019 version just went spiraling downhill. And then you had one person describing it and another person drawing it,
Starting point is 01:30:24 but the person describing it didn't know what they were looking at, and the person who was drawing was like a mechanic. Yeah, just random. No. He saw what I typed in. I saw it, yeah. The thing is, we all know who would win.
Starting point is 01:30:41 I typed in Alex Jones fighting Superman into the AI image generator. Now we're winning. Alex Jones would win. I told it earlier. I said a picture of Donald Trump giving an award to Donald Trump. And legit, it made a really good one. It was Trump putting an award on another Donald Trump.
Starting point is 01:30:55 I was like, wow. This thing works. No one deserves it more than him. Because he is me. He is the greatest. It's like the Rickest Rick. Yeah, but no, you need Trump talking to Trump saying, I'm giving you this award.
Starting point is 01:31:09 Oh, thank you. I will quite frankly thank you. I've always thought you were very handsome. That's true. I'm very handsome. I've told that frequently. He still goes off on tangents complimenting himself instead of himself. We only give awards to the best people, folks.
Starting point is 01:31:24 Only the best folks. Seven candy bar to the person who can determine which tangent is referring to which Trump. But while this is loading, what is your answer to questions like what AI should not have handles over? I think that AI should definitely not have a handle in, like, healthcare.
Starting point is 01:31:42 Oh, yeah. Healthcare, I think. Well, here's the crazy thing about AI and healthcare. Oh, yeah. Healthcare, I think. Well, here's the crazy thing about AI and healthcare. It doesn't necessarily, it doesn't need to be actual artificial intelligence. Simple machine learning algorithms
Starting point is 01:31:53 tracking your behaviors can do crazy things like, there's that story of the father who got a bunch of pregnancy ads sent to his daughter, like maternity gear. So he's getting things in the mail labeled to his daughter his daughter like like maternity gear so he's getting letter like things in the mail labeled to his daughter and it was like maternity clothing and like diapers and
Starting point is 01:32:10 he's like my daughter is not old enough for this stuff and it turns out her behaviors and her searches she didn't know she was pregnant but typing in these certain things the algorithm did and so it triggered a marketing response of pregnant person needs pregnant products. There's one thing they're talking about that's really fascinating. And I don't know, maybe a good thing is that based on your search history, based on your movement behaviors and patterns and all that stuff and sleep patterns, it can tell you if you have a disease right away. Like if you've got cancer or tumor or some kind of deficiency, that's where it gets crazy. Imagine not even like I'm wearing the whoop, right? And this talks about, it tells me like if I'm sleeping well or not, imagine that you are just using Facebook,
Starting point is 01:32:54 but just based on your Facebook patterns, it figures out that you're pre-diabetic. And it just sends you a message like, Hey, we noticed based on your patterns of behavior, you're pre-diabetic. If you do do these things you will reverse course or something like that wouldn't that be i mean that's that's that's crazy dude this girl google searched pickles and peanut butter once and they all like she's pregnant well i mean the other question is i wonder how apocryphal is now i do i know we got to get to this but i want to use that question there the both of your questions for one last thing. That has to go with the answer with, what should an AI
Starting point is 01:33:27 not be in charge of? Anything to do with human rights, because then you are no longer a citizen, you're a subject. It's the same thing with gun control. If you think people should not have the right to bear arms, you don't view them as citizens, you view them as subjects. This is weird. I asked the AI to make Alex Jones fighting Superman, and it just made Alex Jones as Superman fighting alongside
Starting point is 01:33:43 him. Or fighting himself. Because Alex Jones is Superman, and it just made Alex Jones as Superman fighting alongside him. Or fighting himself. Because Alex Jones is Superman. They're like going to fight the deep state. Never been seen in the same room together. Yeah, this is just what we'll do for the rest of the night. We'll just type in things. It is Friday night.
Starting point is 01:33:59 Don't pull it up. I'm scared. Mystery. Technically it's time for super chats. It is. Yeah, but while he's typing, I'll get to my point, is that this idea of human rights and this idea of an AI, you do not want an AI in charge of something that we refer to as human rights. Right?
Starting point is 01:34:16 That makes sense. Because at that point, because an AI is something created by a human, but it also has to deal with, it also becomes a philosophical question of human rights. Right. And we recognize, when we becomes a philosophical question of human rights. And we recognize, when we recognize within our order of government that a government does not have the right to dictate human rights. It also doesn't have the right to infringe on them.
Starting point is 01:34:35 And so if you give that to an AI, you are already creating a hierarchy of AI over man. And which brings up to the problem of the dual bifurcation of the United States. We have left and right. And as you expand that, you're finding absolute contradictions, which you call good, I call evil. You have the second bifurcation
Starting point is 01:34:55 of the government and the people. And the problem that I think you're seeing within the way that we are engaging in government is that, or we are engaging as citizens, is that as that gap, that bifurcation solidifies between the government and the people even within that government strata you will have the right and the left you have people competing against each other's they will engage in lawfare against one another that will use the people below which you know as to the idea of the company redacted if you
Starting point is 01:35:23 want to check it out, Moon's Haunted, we got stuff on the site, it's already live. But the idea of as below, so above, is you have the government above, that as they're engaging in lawfare, engaging in creating things like assault weapons bans and all of these other things, they're using you as fodder to target their political opponents in government.
Starting point is 01:35:44 And so it's ridiculous. They're using you as fodder to target their political opponents in government. And so it's ridiculous. If you want to have the AI question, no, I don't want AI over my rights because I do not – we as our government do not recognize that the government is allowed to perceive us as subjects. If you want to take away the people's guns, you do not see them as human beings. You see them as subjects well and people don't realize with the question of ai and ethical concerns we're really going to have to start confronting that in a very real way in the near future so even just looking at something like self-driving cars once we have fully autonomous vehicles you're going to be expecting artificial intelligence to make decisions literally about who lives and who dies in certain scenarios.
Starting point is 01:36:25 So, for example, if a child runs out into the street and the only way to avoid the child is for the car to steer into another car next to it because there isn't enough time to break, the AI has to decide, do you hit the child or do you risk killing the passenger or kill the passenger? Yeah. This is iRobot, basically, right? The scene, how it starts, you know save the girl save the girl no you have a higher probability of you know a chance of living my system tells me well but
Starting point is 01:36:50 you know and i think at this point what's going to have to happen is whoever is designing the ai is going to be like writing probabilities such as that and they're going to be telling the ai in what situations should you save who. That's very frightening. We've got to go to Super Chats. So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, and share the show with your friends if you do want to help out.
Starting point is 01:37:15 As a member at TimCast.com, sign up. You'll get access to our library of exclusive members-only shows. There's like several hundred episodes. Check it out. It's really, really cool. But let's read what you guys have to say. We went a little late because I was generating funny images. All right. Benjamin Greving says,
Starting point is 01:37:30 Arguing over who the Dems will pick for president in 2024 doesn't matter when they are going to – I'm not going to read that one. I know what he's going to say. Yeah. But when the Republicans are going to win anyway. That's right. If you want to create conflict, continue destroying any hope that our electoral system works. All right.
Starting point is 01:37:48 Bobcat says, Tim, can you address the rumors that Chicken City was created only so Seamus can pick up some chicks? I'm a gorilla. He does sleep with the chickens. I can confirm. I do. I sleep out there a lot because they don't let me in the house. Because you smell weird.
Starting point is 01:38:02 But I smell weird because I sleep with the chickens. So I don't know. It's not like a problem that solves itself by keeping me outside. But I'm just happy to be here, guys. I'm just happy to be here. I sleep with the chickens. Really, this is not a joke. I take eggs every morning.
Starting point is 01:38:14 I get fresh eggs and I cook them. He sleeps with the chickens. That's not a joke. Every morning I wake up. It's not satire. It's not funny. You live in Miami. That's what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:38:22 All right. A lot of chicken heads there. Cece says, yo, climate lockdowns are happening in France right now. Here we go. Is that true? I think I saw something, a news article talking about how the French government is canceling events because it's too hot outside. So that's what I saw.
Starting point is 01:38:37 I haven't confirmed it or looked at it. You see all those cows that died? Yeah. Weird. They said upwards of 10,000 cattle may have died. In Kansas. Yeah. Arizona's also hot.
Starting point is 01:38:45 The official response was that it was too humid and hot for too long of a period. Hmm. 10,000? I mean, I read Little House on the Prairie when I was a kid, and the cows would freeze their face to the ground. They what? You never heard about the cow freezing its face to the ground? No.
Starting point is 01:39:03 Oh, you poor non-Western person. All right. Well, I'm from Chicago. Yeah, it's a joke. But so, no, no. They would stand sleeping and their face would be down on the ground. As they breathe, it would build ice up in their face. We'd get frozen.
Starting point is 01:39:16 We'd get stuck. Andrew Gelling says, we need to rename inflation to corn pop. Then maybe Biden will know how to handle it. No, we'd just make another cereal out of it. It'll make him actually care about it. He'll be like, Corn Pop, I got to stop that thing. Define logics to say for us that your favorite gun shop employee always loves seeing you on Tim's podcast. Oh, thanks, man.
Starting point is 01:39:35 I'll see you later this week. Probably. A bunch of people saying we should have Tom McDonald on. Would love to, but he's a busy guy doing busy stuff. Andrew Irvin says, Conservatism is a naturally reactionary ideology. It will always be on defense and will never take or retake a ground. And if you're not willing to do what's necessary to win, then you deserve to lose.
Starting point is 01:39:56 Fair. Duly noted. I don't agree. We have one from an Ian Crossland. He says, Bash, slash, or pierce the like button. Oh, my. Very violent.
Starting point is 01:40:05 Yeah, very violent. Oh, Ian. He didn't bash, slash, or pierce the like button. Oh my, very violent. Yeah, very violent. Oh, Ian. He didn't include karate chop or knife hand. Lots of no Ian, we peeing. No, no. Ethereal Project says,
Starting point is 01:40:15 have you guys seen Inside Job on Netflix? It's all of the shadow government conspiracies in one animated show. It's like an Alex Jones wet dream.
Starting point is 01:40:22 Yeah, but it's like interesting to watch, to see what they do, but it's not funny. Did you watch it luke no you didn't nope really no there was the cartoon yeah okay yeah i watched some of it and then it was like a psyop and then a psyop of a psyop and it got really convoluted and it and it and it and it was more involved in pushing there is certain points rather than actually writing a good story. There is one funny joke in it where one of the characters is a sentient psychic mushroom from like Hollow Earth. And it talks about how Joe keeps trying to hit him up to do like do shrooms or something.
Starting point is 01:40:55 I actually thought that was pretty funny. To do what? To do psychedelics. Some of the characters are really interesting and the plot is kind of different. But at the end of the day, it's the same kind of Hollywood movie and series that you see with the same underlining messages that are just tiresome at this point. Kyroll says, Tim, I truly hope tensions in this country never break into open conflict. I've tried thinking what we could expect based on history,
Starting point is 01:41:19 and the events that stood out to me were Kansas, 1855, Russia, 1917, and Spain, 1936. I agree with those. Except for what was Kansas in 1855? I think it was called Bleeding Kansas. I looked it up. Yeah, I don't know. 1855. I do remember studying this in school, but I don't remember it.
Starting point is 01:41:37 Yeah, and if you don't want violence, I understand that. And I think that's a good thing. And you know who also doesn't want violence? All the people who are good at it. If you want to ask yourself a good thing. Nobody should want it. And you know who also doesn't want violence? All the people who are good at it. If you want to ask yourself a good question, why is it that all the people who are actually good at violence
Starting point is 01:41:48 are not participating in it? They do not want it. Yeah, so 1855 was Bleeding Kansas and this was John Brown. Okay. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:56 Was that when he walked to the dude and shot him in the face? I think so. Because Kansas was looking at becoming a southern state? Yeah. Slave state or something like that?
Starting point is 01:42:03 Yeah, it was violent guerrilla warfare between pro- and anti-slavery forces following the creation of the new territory of Kansas. But think about this. That's what, six years before the Civil War. So people don't understand this when I talk about the tensions we're seeing in this country. And it's not just me. We have a book over here somewhere called The Next Civil War where they outline this.
Starting point is 01:42:23 There are many people talking about it. Of course, they're all blaming each other, which is indicative of civil war. Bring the War Home by Kathleen Bellow. You're already participating in it. You started your show saying we're off the Silicon Valley infrastructure.
Starting point is 01:42:38 That's a form of secession in itself. Dennis Prager on the show said it the other day. People are pulling out of public schools and doing homeschool. We're in every mode of this until the kinetic physics. There have to be two economies in order for a civil war to begin. Because if one side controls the flow
Starting point is 01:42:54 of resources, there's no war. They just cut off one side and then you'll get insurgency or something. But if a parallel economy forms, and it already has, then you'll end up with something different. Now maybe it's just always going to be an information war, propaganda, and we'll see. Let me throw this in there. It's already not one.
Starting point is 01:43:11 If the Libs hate oil so much, why not just keep it away from them? Yeah, there you go. They can give it to everyone else. Yeah. And then we'll see how they operate. Greta Thunberg says, shut down all the oil now. Okay, let's tell all the cities, how about we do that? We shut it all down.
Starting point is 01:43:26 I'm cool with that. Let's actually give them the world they want. Yeah, they can have it. We'll keep the oil. Yes. All right, Martin Edgar says, I'm extremely disappointed with the NRA. The left yells at the NRA, but my view of them is they are willing to give concessions instead of fight everything.
Starting point is 01:43:41 Let's see what they come out and say about those people who caved. Are you kidding? The NRA always caves. They're trash. I hate the NRA. No, I think the NRA is a great institution. It's fantastic. And the reason why it's so great is because it's become the whipping boy of people who
Starting point is 01:43:53 don't know what they're talking about. That's a good point. No, I mean, like, in our generation, I'm 32, has every reason to be extremely disappointed in the NRA because we've watched you grandstand and make your points come come from gun culture you know who the nra just put back as their president the same guy they fired for embezzlement wayne lapierre right so maybe maybe the stories that were told about him weren't true if you believe that find out for yourself but no the nra is the n, if you are honest, if you are on the left or you are a pro-gun control advocate and you are honest about the conversation, stop talking about the NRA. Because as soon as you say that, we recognize you're not worth engaging with.
Starting point is 01:44:38 They're great at fundraising. They are that. No, their fundraising platform is dying of old age. You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. That's what happened. All right. Selrin says, Nick Riccata talks about the first SCOTUS gun control case. The guy died before the hearing and his lawyer didn't get paid, so he didn't show up.
Starting point is 01:44:56 The state argued against itself and won the case. Oh, wow. Amazing. Nice. Wow. All right. Peter Provenzano says, out of the people at the table tonight,
Starting point is 01:45:07 how many have families? You're all in your 30s and don't even have your first kid. Lead by example. You can't tell me what to do. Also, I'm not in my 30s. And not married. Seamus is in his 40s.
Starting point is 01:45:17 He's an old man. He's far and dust. I won't tell anything. Yeah, yeah. No, I'm not saying anything. I also think that a lot of people don't want to just blurt out their private lives for security reasons. Yeah. Even if I was having a family, I wouldn't tell anybody.
Starting point is 01:45:32 I mean, look at three kids. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, bro. Do you need to be married to have kids? You don't, technically. Theoretically. Well, do you need... Define need.
Starting point is 01:45:41 It's a social construct. Why do you want the government acknowledging your private relations? I'm with you on that. Thank you. Why do I want the government acknowledging your private relations? I'm with you on that. Thank you. Why do I want the government? You got me there. Yeah, you got me. Stop right there.
Starting point is 01:45:49 Barbara Stokes says, I am a boomer. I am 65. You are wrong about boomers, but I forgive you. I don't remember what I said about boomers. What did I say about boomers? I think it might have been something that I said wrong. You said I hate boomers, especially if they're 65. I couldn't believe it.
Starting point is 01:46:00 And her name is Barbara. Why would you say that? Might have been the corn in common. It's all jokes. No, there's criticism to be leveled at the boomer generation. 100%, and millennials and zoomers. Can I add something to that? You know, a lot of the money that we spent that's in the deficit
Starting point is 01:46:16 was spent to squeeze out 1% of life expectancy for a bunch of people, mostly boomers. Yeah. So you spent a lot on our heads. Take the criticism. No, it's going to be really weird. So right now boomers hold a disproportionate amount of wealth relative to previous generations at this time. Millennials – I was looking at this chart and said historically millennials now that they're in their 30s
Starting point is 01:46:40 should hold a quarter or a third of the wealth of the nation, but boomers still hold it. When boomers die and that wealth either goes to the state or to their kids, it's going to be like a tsunami hitting. All of a sudden, millennials are going to have the homes, the resources, and the wealth that their parents were holding onto for a long time. Which might encourage people to be closer to their families if it twisted. I'm reading a book by a boomer, and the boomer talked about how they will one day be in charge of the economy and now they are it was written in 1990 is extremely condescending and my greatest criticisms against
Starting point is 01:47:14 the boomer generation is you outright failed or refused to pass your values or any values onto your children because you said things like i don't want to force timmy to believe anything right good now timmy believes nothing and how many how many of these parents or anything i know i know a ton of uh you know people i grew up with whose parents were like i got them the guitar but i i didn't force them to play it i got them the skateboard but i didn't force them to use it and now i know a bunch of people who suck at at anything don't know have worthless degrees and there's a skateboard and a guitar sitting in the corner of the room they never touched then i know some people who are pro skateboarders and they
Starting point is 01:47:48 were like my my dad made me go to the skate park because he was like if i buy you a skateboard you're gonna skate and they're like okay then two weeks later said i don't want to skate anymore too bad we're going to the skate park i bought it for you you're gonna do it now they're pros now they're rich successful and they love skate they love it and they're like oh it's the greatest thing that my parents ever did for me well and there's an irony here, right? Millennials, if they end up having wealth, a lot of it's going to be inherited from their parents. And this is the generation that's pushing for inheritance taxes because they've been so thoroughly propagandized by the state into believing that they exclusively benefit the rich and that they have an entitlement to other people's money and that that will solve the issue of income inequality. It actually makes it worse according to a number of analyses.
Starting point is 01:48:23 Let's read some more. Pablo Gonzalez says, I hear you suggest Kyle and Crystal. They advocate protesting outside of judges' houses. They go as far as saying the right is trying to restrict speech over this. I'm not sure you watch their content. I don't watch all the stuff they do. I see it periodically. My point about Crystal and Kyle is that, yeah, I don't agree with their opinions, but I think they actually try to approach arguments in good faith. Like you can actually talk to them.
Starting point is 01:48:47 Kyle's not a mean guy either. I've seen him criticize me, and it was like well done, but I disagree. That's fine. I think they're wrong. I just think there's a lot of people that just engage in sophistry. I think Kyle and Crystal actually try to give you real arguments, and they try to understand their positions. I just don't agree with a lot of them. That's fair.
Starting point is 01:49:07 We need more of that. Jimmy Dore is great too. I certainly don't agree with Jimmy Dore on a lot of things, but I think Jimmy is fantastic. He's a good dude. I like Jimmy Dore too. Yeah. It's like my thing is we disagree on so much, especially like Ian's here and Luke or all of us. We all have different opinions.
Starting point is 01:49:22 Seamus and I disagree on things. But if we're coming at it from like, what are the facts and what are the arguments and why do we feel the way we do, then we're trying, you know? I actually agree with everyone here on everything. I've never disagreed with you guys before. Even me? Especially you. Wow. Beastly Devil says, Matt Walsh once
Starting point is 01:49:37 critiqued Vosh that reacted to his Johnny the Walrus book. He made the argument that Vosh is trying, and as we know already, trying to meet the minimum word count on an essay project to make them sound smart. This is literally what the left does to try and sound smart. They think that if they
Starting point is 01:49:54 talk like this and use verbose lexicon in their explanations of things, it will make them sound much more articulate and intelligent, and their argument will be more cogent and acceptable. Instead of just being like, I think this because of this. Also, the double edge to that is they say, oh, what?
Starting point is 01:50:14 You can't read my explanation? It's too many words for you? Well, you're uneducated. You're dumb. That's why you don't understand it. You don't want to understand it. Why? Too many words for you? Maggot?
Starting point is 01:50:22 Look, you know what they say. Wordiness is the soul of wit. That's right.'s that it's part of that it's like wow you you don't understand this giant treatise well obviously you're uneducated nobody should listen to you right they mistake education for intelligence well also they mistake the idea of they they mistake the purpose of communicating with trying to make themselves sound smart rather than trying to get an actual idea across so it doesn't matter if you're with trying to make themselves sound smart rather than trying to get an actual idea across. So it doesn't matter. If you're really trying to communicate something, then what you should do is try to
Starting point is 01:50:49 condense it into something that's more consumable. That's part of why I've dedicated my life and my business towards making short cartoons. Some things cannot be reduced into a small format. I agree with you. There's a reason for a dissertation. There's a reason for a long paper. It makes sense.
Starting point is 01:51:05 However, you have the same people who are trying to present that they are being intelligent presenting while also simultaneously saying that intelligent presenting is also racist because insert minority here can't do it. Then why do you talk that way? This is all sophistry. I will say I agree with you that there are some explanations that require a longer form 100 but it's also the case that if if you can communicate that same idea with less words you are more intelligent they never even consider that oh yeah let's read some more we got fear me 16 it says once heard and culture say there are a lot of bad republicans but there are no good democrats oh Interesting. I agree with her. What do you guys think of Dennis Kucinich? I know he's not around in politics anymore, is he?
Starting point is 01:51:49 He's an old guy, I think. Because he tried to abolish the Federal Reserve, didn't he? Yeah, he's a Democrat, I think. And I'm kind of like, oh, I heard that, and I was like, oh, really? I don't think there's a lot less good Democrats. Right, and that's another thing. It's a totally different generation.
Starting point is 01:52:06 The Democrat then, the Democrat now is just too majorly different. Well, the Democrats attacked him and kicked him out of office. Oh, yeah. Did that with Lieberman? He's going up against the system. Is this another – a second big switch? Bernie Sanders just caved and was like after my third house i was like okay hillary whatever you say you know on the bernie thing you know everyone points at the houses
Starting point is 01:52:29 right but have you guys actually looked at like the political infrastructure of bernie it's like his wife runs the consultancy right and so uh so basically think about that structure right there he goes and asks for donations gets the campaign gets donations, then he pays his wife to run the campaign. Literally nepotism. That's donation money finding its way directly into the Sanders pockets, right? And it's blatant. It's been happening for years in Vermont,
Starting point is 01:52:57 and nobody says anything. I mean, at least they're married. It's not like AOC paid a non-boyfriend money to do something. Was that her? No, Ilhan Omar paid her and their boyfriend and girlfriend now. Yeah. I mean, I'm from Minnesota.
Starting point is 01:53:10 I should have known that was Ilhan. But, like, okay, at least Bernie Sanders has it on the paperwork that he's being dishonest. Well, also, I – The administrative state approves of your corruption. Yes. I mean, shout out to the Republicans that made a bunch of money off the stock market, too. Yes. I don't have to pay for any of these people.
Starting point is 01:53:26 The reason I bring up and love discussing Bernie's houses is because so much of his constituency thinks that being a landlord makes you the scum of the earth. And I find something hilarious about the idea that it's okay to own three houses when you only need to live in one and keep the other two vacant in case you might like to go there. But it's horrible and evil to own three houses, live in one, and allow other people to live in the and keep the other two vacant in case you might like to go there. But it's horrible and evil to own three houses, live in one, and allow other people to live in the other two houses. Because no communist thinks they're going to end up a dirt farmer. Because you know what? When you're a communist,
Starting point is 01:53:54 you're going to be the poet. It's the same thing with anarchist utopians. No one thinks that they're going to be the one beaten to death with a cudgel. They think they're going to be running the Politburo. We got Dan Pitt. He says, werewolf makes sense now. That's right.
Starting point is 01:54:09 A woman who transforms into a wolf monster would be a whiff wolf, if you are going by actual Germanic language. A whiff wolf. A whiff wolf. A werewolf. A whiffle bat. Nitro Cat Official says, matriarchy has been tried before. The episode of Survivor, where it was the men versus women.
Starting point is 01:54:27 The men had a shelter within the day and the women got caught in a storm. Yo, I... Some say... Love it. All these videos are just fabricated for ratings. One of them I watched, it was like two islands.
Starting point is 01:54:38 The men on one, the women on the other. The women got lost. And then, like, they were like, let's split up. We'll go look for water. You stay here. And the women who went to look for water walked around in circles like five times and are crying and breaking down because they didn't understand how they had gone in circles because
Starting point is 01:54:53 they were like setting markers, but they kept going in circles. And then they did this overview of the map and they're like showing the route they kept taking and they were freaking out. The men had a shelter, they had fire, they had food. Some say they did that to make an entertaining video that people would share and talk about. And it was intentionally like guys who had skills and women who didn't. But nonetheless, those episodes, they do exist. Well, have you considered that those women were raised in a patriarchal society that didn't teach them survival skills and that's why they failed?
Starting point is 01:55:20 It's an indictment of sexism. Because it's the patriarchy that's keeping them. They were taught they were taught how to do it the the instruction was simple go find a man go find you a man the second protects the rest says the fbi under trump is the exact same fbi under biden yeah i want to make that point yeah that is correct trump's fbi i don't think it's trump trump's fbi or biden's fbi i think it it's the fbi and then they don't own Trump, but they do own Biden. The institutions are of themselves, right?
Starting point is 01:55:52 The FBI is the FBI. It'll sit there, and if the administration, the executive branch that's supposed to run it, tries to come after them, it's going to resist. The institution, once it gets large enough enough will just seek to preserve itself right and that's why again it's all just a shuffle in in some other universe muller would have been the guy been trump's ag and bill barr would have been doing the the special counsel i think i think our commenter makes a good point is that you can talk about the corruption in the justice system all day long, but you have to provide a solution and an alternative. Part of that solution would be, if you're the Department of Justice, seek justice.
Starting point is 01:56:32 There's a part of it. You have to seek justice. My solution is personnel as policy. Get the person who believes what you need in there, and they will do the rest. Let's read some more. We got Lavutti says, just blew my family's mind today with the whole eight and nine month elective abortions that are happening in some states. I have never seen
Starting point is 01:56:49 a more disgusted face. Godspeed with what y'all do and keep it up. This is what happens. Democrats tried to legalize abortion at any time for the health of the mother. Abortion is defined by the CDC as a termination of a pregnancy
Starting point is 01:57:05 that does not result in a live birth. That would mean if a woman at eight and a half months was at risk, they could kill the baby instead of just delivering a viable baby because it says a viable baby, all of it's laid out.
Starting point is 01:57:17 My question is, well, why? Why not just say if the baby cannot survive, like all attempts must be made to save the baby and the immediate response is it never happens anyway why are you so obsessed with this and i'm like i didn't say it was happening i said why do you want to legalize it yeah that's my that's all i'm saying and this is we we talked about this we've talked about uh this on the show a number
Starting point is 01:57:39 of times but they'll say health of the mother and then there are late-term abortion doctors who'll say yeah the most cited reason is depression yeah so people think like oh we have to deliver this baby earlier she's going to die it's like no she's depressed no no they're saying in this instance they're literally saying if if a woman's health is impacted for any reason they can be like i guess we got to kill the baby but it's like what if we delivered it instead nope nope it has to die do you guys know the statistics on on on the abortions and stuff? It's not great. I think over 90% of abortions are just elective. 99% of abortions.
Starting point is 01:58:13 I think it's 93%. It's over 90%. So that means rape, incest, and medical go in, what, 10% or less? Less than that. Yep. And that is the disingenuous nature of the conversation. Right. Because you say, we have the issue of abortion.
Starting point is 01:58:29 And they say, well, what about rape? Really? Really? No, no, just say yes, okay. No, no, no. So you want to ban the other 93%? And they'll go, no. No, no.
Starting point is 01:58:37 Then why'd you bring it up? Then don't lie about it. Just stop lying. I say this to people when they're like, well, what about rape? And they're like, oh, we'll make sure there's exceptions for that. And they're like, okay. And I'm like, so would you ban the other 93% then? And they go, no.
Starting point is 01:58:49 Then why did you bring it up? That's the problem, right. Why did you ask me then? It's dishonest. Stop being dishonest. Or just, sure, but I wouldn't say that. I'd just be like, oh, okay, why'd you ask? Why did you ask?
Starting point is 01:58:59 Oh, because you're dishonest. I got you. Yeah, but if you want to actually like... I don't think the word is dishonest. I think it's subversive. Yeah, but I think a lot of people are just repeating talking points. So you just approach it like, oh, okay, yeah, you're right. We should definitely allow that then.
Starting point is 01:59:13 So what about the elective birth control abortion? Should we get rid of that? No? Okay, then why did you bring up rape at all? Like when we had that dude Matt on, he said something like, this never happens, Tim. Late-term abortions don't happen. And then I said, do you think a woman should be allowed to have an elective abortion at nine months?
Starting point is 01:59:28 And he goes, it's her choice. And I'm like, okay, you see, there's the issue. You're saying it never happens. It never happens. Legalize it. And I think it should be allowed. I'm like, okay, that's my issue. You want it to happen.
Starting point is 01:59:38 Whatever, man. You would let it happen, right? That's really what it is. They want it to happen. They think it should happen. So there you go. And if you don't affirm that they should happen then we're going to burn down your pregnancy resource centers all right your wait it's well and this is what they say is it really yours is it really yours this is what they say because it represents something
Starting point is 01:59:56 that isn't mine so i'll burn it down yeah exactly well this is what they say if you know pro-lifers don't care about these women they don't care after about children after they're born and then when pro-lifers literally have charities and organizations set up to about these women and they don't care about children after they're born. And then when pro-lifers literally have charities and organizations set up to provide these women with resources when they're brave enough to bring life into the world, pro-choicers torch them.
Starting point is 02:00:10 That's what they're doing. Imagine that. Let's read some more here. We got, Darth Derivative says, Tim, gaslighting and lying is what got us here.
Starting point is 02:00:17 It will not get us out. You won't read this. Uh-oh. The last part of that sentence is wrong, so I guess the rest of it must be wrong too, right? You cannot defeat gaslighting and gaslighting Gaslight Tim you're good at the super chat stuff
Starting point is 02:00:28 Alright we'll just grab A couple more here A couple more super chats Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says Tim did you write Will of the People I did I wrote it I sang it I wrote the guitar for it Not the Muse version No that one's not that good I don't like it I'm a big fan of Muse though but I just didn't like it Also I feel like they I wrote the guitar for it. Not the Muse version. Not the Muse version. No, that one's not that good. I don't like it.
Starting point is 02:00:45 I'm a big fan of Muse, though, but I just didn't like that. Also, I feel like they kind of ripped off a lot of my art and style and whatever. But yes, I have a song. It's called Will of the People, and you can search for it and listen to it. I sang it. I wrote the guitar for it. The lead guitar was a studio musician, and Nishra Allman produced the song and arranged it and worked with some outside talent to put it all together.
Starting point is 02:01:04 I wrote the story. I wrote the concept for the video, and all of that from creation and inception was mine, Allman produced the song and arranged it and worked with some outside talent to put it all together. I wrote the story. I wrote the concept for the video, and all of that from creation and inception was mine, except for all the nitty-gritty pieces that were putting everything together. So, yeah, I'm very excited for that. We also have a bunch of music coming out. Maybe by August I think we'll have a full album. We have ten songs demo-tracked already.
Starting point is 02:01:20 One is complete. We have a couple that are near completion. We're working with Pete Parada, formerly of The Offspring on drums, so I'm super excited for that. And we have a big plan for a big release with big marketing. It should be like a very traditional album release. So anyway, thanks for hanging out, guys. If you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show, head over to timcast.com and become a member if you want to help support all of the work we do. It's basically how we make the operation run. We do a show on podcast and then tell everybody, support us. Ads aren't really the heavy lifting for the most part.
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Starting point is 02:02:11 And yeah, pay attention to the good things coming up, man. We have a hot midterm, and I'm going to be in there from New York 23 trying to win back the House for Republicans, and you know, just pay attention. Cool. Yeah, my name is forrest
Starting point is 02:02:26 cooper i am the philosopher on violence if you want to follow me on instagram my personal page is foxroe underscore official for fox row official the business page for redacted is at redacted llc and then my personal instagram not instagram twitter, which I occasionally use, is at Foxrow. And that's where you can find me right now. First of all, shouts out to Lydia's better half, Andy. He builds a lot of the cool stuff out here. Today is his birthday. He's a really cool, awesome human being.
Starting point is 02:02:58 So shouts out to Andy. Happy birthday, Andy. He's pretty incredible. And I'm leaving. It wasn't because of video games. I just got my own thing to do. And I'm going to be doing a lot of different stuff, projects, shenanigans. You can keep up with me on LukeUncensored.com.
Starting point is 02:03:13 And if you guys will have me back, I'll come back after I'm done doing my Radowski stuff. He's doing some weird hippie acupuncture retreat or something. Of course. I'm going to rub crystals on his ass. Whatever he's doing. On my buttocks. This is a family-friendly showupuncture retreat or something. Of course. I'm going to rub crystals on his ass. Whatever he's doing. On my buttocks? This is a family-friendly show, Timothy Poole. Almost over.
Starting point is 02:03:29 Whatever he's doing, it's not important. But the important thing is he won't be here. Oh, my gosh. Everybody. How charitable, Seamus. Off to the potato man's world. Luke, I will miss you, believe it or not. You better.
Starting point is 02:03:41 I will. Look, I mean, there's got to be someone to take the heat on this show. But I'm Seamus Coghlan.an i make cartoons we released a cartoon yesterday about the attempted assassination of cavanaugh and how the left under responding to that and inciting that so you guys might want to check that out also i have a website now because we're trying to get independent from big tech so go to freedom tunes.com you can become a member for just five bucks a month you'll be supporting the content that we're making. You will also get an extra cartoon each week
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Starting point is 02:04:17 on all the Freedom Tunes? Most of them. Tim plays Fauci. Yeah. And then there's a female voice actress who does most of the female voices
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Starting point is 02:05:20 We had one in the beginning where Luke blew up the castle on his way. That was very simple. And then since then, we've been trying to get into the habit of making it kind of like a semi-fictionalized version of the work we do here to make it funny. Jamie has absolutely done that. We have a whole bunch of plans, all these crazy jokes written out. It's going to be a whole lot of fun. So check out youtube.com slash castcastle. Thanks for hanging out, and we'll see you all next time.
Starting point is 02:05:40 Bye, guys.

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