Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #561 - Ghislaine Maxwell Sentenced To 20 Years In Prison In Epstein Case w/Quite Frankly

Episode Date: June 29, 2022

Tim, Ian, Seamus of FreedomToons, and Lydia join commentator and podcaster Quite Frankly to discuss Ghislaine Maxwell's prison sentence, the aide alleging that Trump tried to assault Secret Service on January 6th, and Democrats funding MAGA candidates to try to screw over the GOP. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

And the sentence is done. Ghislaine Maxwell will be in prison for 20 years. Apparently, it's like a low security thing. And going to prison for trafficking children to no one, apparently. To not a single person, but apparently still trafficking them. So you have to wonder who. We'd love to see the list of clients, but for some reason, they're not telling us. Also, Maxwell was placed on um suicide watch

sparking many memes so i guess we're gonna have to talk about all of that and we also have news pertaining to democrats because this is hilarious for the past couple of weeks it's been reported that democrats have been funding trump supporting republican candidates in republican primaries under the the idea that it's going to help them win, I don't understand what they think. They think like, well, these pro-life Republicans can't possibly win a general election. Meanwhile, people are vowing to vote against the Democrats, regardless of who they're voting for, because, I don't know, the economy's in shambles, and the Democrats have embraced insane cultural issues. Those tend to be, in the polls, people saying like, hey, I don't like that.

Like you look at Virginia with Youngkin and now you look at the $5 gas. All they're doing is propping up Trump and then holding January 6th hearings where they complain about Trump and blame the thing they're funding for destroying this country. It's beautiful.

And then the last, we got a bunch of other stories, but one is really, really funny. Apparently a former White House staffer is claiming Trump lunged at the steering wheel and tried to, like, commandeer a vehicle through the security barrier from the backseat to the front. It makes no sense. The story makes no sense. Trump came out and said it's nonsense.

And apparently, we have statements to journalists that they're corroborating Secret Service agents who said this lady at the January 6th hearing is making it up. Can't say I'm surprised. Ladies and gentlemen, before we get started with all of that news, head over to TimCast.com and become a member to help support our work. As a member, you'll get access to exclusive segments from this show Monday through Thursday at 11 p.m., members only. It is uncensored, TimCast After Dark. We swear a lot and we tell naughty jokes, so you'll definitely want to check that out. And don't forget to smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, and share the show if you really do like it. Follow me at TimCast and follow the show at TimCastIRL.

Joining us today to talk about all of this is, quite frankly... Hey, Tim. Who are you? I come in peace on behalf of my tribe. Thank you, everybody, for having me here. Tim, you know, the last time I saw you, it was a day before you went to Malmo. Oh, wow.

It was a while ago. The other thing, too, is Tim went to a local diner with me after one of those shows that we were hanging out one night. And you've become very famous since then. You've become. They've actually bronzed the seat that you sat in that night. You can't even sit in it anymore. Yes, I know.

It's Diana Ross and Tim Pool when it comes to Greenwich, Connecticut. There's nobody bigger except Diana. So what do you do? Oh, I'm just a talk show host from New York. Current events, history, hidden history. Actually, most history is hidden these days. You know what I mean, Ian? Yeah, I don't know.

I can't tell because I can't see it, but I think you might be onto something. Well, either way, that's what it is. That, the human condition, we just like talking about things that make us human, and I'm so happy to be here. It's been a wonderful day so far. The drive was beautiful.

A lot of trees. Yeah, cordon's out here. That's cool. There's rabbits everywhere. It reminds me of upstate New York, to be honest. Except we have wine berries. I never see... There's wild out here. That's cool. There's rabbits everywhere. It reminds me of upstate New York, to be honest. Except we have wine berries. I never see. There's wild Chinese raspberry everywhere.

You just like walk up the driveway and you can fill your hands with just all these berries and just eat them and be full and you're done. Now, they're not quite in bloom yet or whatever. Fruiting, whatever the word is. But I had a couple today. I just walked around and I picked them up. Is there like a limit before the diarrhea sets in? It's like one of those things?

Well, I mean, I'm pretty sure if you eat anything to excess. Probably. But they're delicious and amazing. And we made ice cream with them last year. Seamus, I can see he's jealous. I remember that. No, I think I was here when you guys made... I remember you making something out of them.

We want to make wine wine. Wine wine? Wine berry wine. Wine berry wine? Wine wine. I don't actually think we can do it, but I don't know. Not without a liquor license, sir. That's right.

I don't know. I'll report you. I think West Virginia allows you to go to the law. If you're going to do that, you better stomp the berries with your bare feet like they do in the old country. Stomp the berries. Do it. Wine wine.

Good gun. Seamus, who are you? Well, that's a tough question. It keeps me up most nights, and I'm not entirely sure, but I can tell you what I do. I create cartoons at a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes. We just released one today. I think you guys are really going to enjoy it. It's been a hit.

The fans are loving it. It's how lefties debate. It's a short 30-second one that I think will enrich your life. We also launched a website, and on that website, we will be posting every week either a new cartoon that week that is just exclusive for patrons or a much extended cut of the current video, like several minutes longer.

So go over there, freedomtunes.com, become a member, five bucks a month. Help us get free from the establishment in big tech. Well, hello, everyone. Ian Crossland here, and I'm actually thinking about what you said, Frank, about hidden history because when someone's telling his story, it's really not only is it about the things he tells you, but also about the things he didn't tell you, and that's

what they call reading between the lines. Or telling her story. Are you changing language as we speak? I just think it's concerned that it bothers you that he would say her story. Do you have something else, Raymond? No, I'm just part of the patriarchy the roman let's use roman numerals in our constitution i was reading through the constitution last night and the roman numerals were making me ill we gotta just change them look i mean it's hard to make numerals only you know oh well let's i'll talk about this on the show let me get this out of the way really quick you know the white house is like those white roman pillars i realized the the Romans painted their white marble, and the paint just wore off. But the Americans are like, let's do white buildings everywhere.

We did paint those as well, and the paint wore off. Okay. No, I'm kidding. So let's paint the White House is what I'm saying. We had to paint the White House several times after it was burned down in the 1812 War. What's a good color? Purple. Red.

For the White House? Purple. Well, hold on. You guys, whoa. You guys don't want to do pride colors? Immediately cancel. I'm hoping to repaint it at will. Periwinkle.

I think color the Ukraine flag. Do a wrap. There you go. You know, those wraps where it changes color depending on how you look at it. Holographic. Holographic wraps. The holographic wraps. You know what I think we should do?

I don't know why we didn't do this after it got burned down the first time, but paint it into the landscape, camouflage. Don't let anyone know where it is. Just all sky blue. Exactly. There you go. Anyway, this has been a good conversation already. I was going to say that most of history is hidden,

and I see people commenting on the news nowadays, and they're like, well, if this is what they're covering up, this makes me wonder about all the rest of history. So I think that, yeah, probably all history is to some degree very much hidden. Anyway, I'm very excited for tonight's conversation. Looking to your perspective for sure here's the big news ladies and gentlemen maxwell sentenced to 20 years in prison for what as epstein case nears its end maxwell the former socialite who conspired with epstein to exploit underage girls was sentenced to 20 years in prison on tuesday by a judge who said she played a

pivotal role in facilitating a horrific scheme that spanned continents and years. Maxwell, 60, is the daughter of a British media magnate. Robert Maxwell convicted on December 29th of trafficking and other counts after a month-long trial at which the government presented testimony and other evidence depicting Maxwell

as a sophisticated predator who groomed vulnerable young women and girls as young as 14 years old for abuse by Epstein. Is that it? Just Epstein, I guess. People were flying on his plane with him and going to his island, but it was just a coincidence.

So Maxwell's client list is published. It's Epstein. That's it. We're done. Everybody can go home. That's all it was. Nothing to see here. I noticed this article frames it as it comes to an end, It's Epstein. That's it. We're done. Everybody can go home. That's all it was. Nothing to see here. I noticed this article frames it as it comes to an end, as the Epstein case comes to an end. We're now laying the hammer down as hard as we can on Ghislaine to show that it's definitely done.

Don't ask questions. Well, my question is, do you think it's really her? Do you think it's really her? And actually in jail? I thought that the trial itself was such a farce that I said to myself, I wouldn't be surprised if they say, guilty. They bring her out the back door, send her to the Bahamas, and then just send somebody to jail. No, like face off.

Like they take Ghislaine and some other woman and then like sedate her and then they cut their faces off and switch them. And this other woman is like, I'm not Ghislaine. I'm innocent. They're like, quiet, you. Crazy. Good baby. No, it's her, dude. I mean, that's what she said in court. She used old face-off defense and just like come on we've heard that

too many times you know how many faces i've had the old face-off defense she has like actual scars going around her face and she's just and they're just like it looks fine no i look i'd love to believe that like people believe that epstein wasn't really epstein and like they showed there's like a picture of him being taken out of the prison and they're like, it looks slightly different. And I'm like, yeah, he's dead. Yeah. Like his muscles have like, he probably avoided his balls.

Like it was a really awful stuff. And I'm just like, you know, I'd love to believe that they smuggled these people out just because it makes you think that you're actually fighting some grand fight. But come on, the reality is

these people got busted. The feds backed off and we're letting them do their thing. Who knows why? Probably blackmail or something. And then we had a series of events. We had reporting from Mike Cernovich. We had reporting, I think, from the Miami Herald.

We had reporting for Project Veritas that all helped push this into the front and center with Maxwell and Epstein. And they got caught, and they got thrown under the bus. And then Bill Gates gets asked about it. That was funny. It's like, oh, what does it matter? He's dead now. It's like, y, what does it matter? He's dead now. It's like, yikes, dude. You're on his plane.

Yeah, and if they start naming names, what'll happen is they'll name one and then that person is going to start naming a bunch of other ones and then another and then the whole web starts to get exposed. He just wasn't important enough. I mean, I never really read into any of the it's not really him, look at the ear, all that stuff.

He just wasn't important enough. Jeff? No, yeah, he wasn't. That's somebody that's going really him, look at the ear, all that stuff. He just wasn't important enough. Jeff? No, yeah, he wasn't. That's somebody that's going to get flushed at some point, especially when you're in and out of the news and you just cannot stop. He was useful at a time, again, for somebody higher up the chain. And there's a lot more questions about how high the chain goes. You guys ready?

This is a story actually from a couple days ago, CNN reporting. Ghislaine Maxwell is on suicide watch but isn't suicidal, may need to postpone sentencing. Well, they didn't postpone sentencing. I got it out. But they are putting her on suicide watch

even though she isn't. And everybody started posting memes. Yeah, of course. Because surprise, surprise, they're like, oh no, she's going to hurt herself. And then what happened? Suicide watch, but not suicidal.

Does that just mean they're afraid someone's going to fake her suicide? I don't know. That's very blatant. It's like a weird thing to say. I know. They're like, she's on the watch. She doesn't want to do it.

Now. Which is why she's on watch. She's like, guys, I really don't want to commit suicide. Please watch me. Please look at this. She's not suicidal now, but she may be later. Or let's be real. This may not be as nefarious as it sounds.

It may be that there's a fear in the federal government that someone powerful is going to try and flush her out. What is it? Shake her, lose her mortal coil. And so they put her on watch because there's no other watch that there can be. Hey, guys, just please make sure that the guards got a full night rest the night before this time.

Is there a homicide watch for inmates? No, because no one would ever kill an inmate. It's unconscionable, so they don't even call it homicide watch. You're by yourself, right? You're in solitary. You're in a jail cell by yourself. There's not going to be homicide watch. They're not going to be like... Because there's no one to

actually perceivably kill you. So the only thing they could do to make sure you live is put you on suicide watch, even if you're not... And then they say she's not suicidal. They're basically saying, we think somebody wants to kill her. Yeah's what it sounds like i mean technically anyone could could be a victim of homicide even if they were a prisoner because like the guards could be paid off to do it people on the guard you know the prison owners could be do it what if like with epstein it was this crazy scenario because like weren't the guards sleeping yeah guards were

sleeping make sure the cameras were broke uh it's just then who knows that things just happen look i've seen i've seen x-men where you know you have mystique and she drugs that guy and she injects him full of iron and then magneto escapes so you know i'm just saying maybe somebody drugged the guards and then had magnetic powers to disable the camera. I remember that. That proves it. I mean, it's more believable than the official explanation. Shockingly, yes.

That's why I don't look at this. I say, how does it end with her? Because she was definitely his handler. So how does it end with her? I thought for sure that there was definitely a game of chicken being played between her defense. I mean, the whole thing was weird. They brought in the CIA, memory lawyers and everything. Memory lawyers?

Yeah. There's a certain type of shrink that comes in to talk about how your memory was not really what it is. And then, of course, after two weeks, we got four months of Johnny Depp. But after two weeks, they say, we got to get this over with. There's another wave of COVID coming through New York. And like you said, we've got to get this over with. There's another wave of COVID coming through New York. And like you said, we don't know anything. The Johnny Depp trial, while

all this is still going on, it's just like I'm imagining there's a shocking crime to your left and then a police van opens up and a bunch of clowns come out and they start going like and they're dancing around. Everyone's like, oh hey, clowns, and they stop paying attention to the crazy crime happening to their left. Indeed. The bigger question here is, like, oh, hey, clowns. And they stop paying attention to the crazy crime happening to their left. Indeed.

The bigger question here is, sure, sure, sure. We know that Ghislaine Maxwell, even though we all have our suspicions about Epstein and the media is desperately trying to be like, it's a conspiracy theory and all that. But no sane person believes that he took his own life. We know all this. It probably is going to – something's going to happen to her. And then the bigger question is, who was involved? I think Bill Gates flew in. No one was involved at all, right?

I think it was Bill Gates. We know he flew on the plane. So until they prove otherwise, it's him. That's fair. Just him. I would ask Alex Acosta. Who's that? The old Trump Labor Secretary who was actually part of this whole thing when they were wrapping up Operation Leap Year.

That actually put the full scope of what Epstein was doing in New Mexico, in Florida, New York, the Caribbean, all that together. I would ask, it was Acosta was when he was getting thrown out of his office in 2018 or 19 or whatever the hell it was. He was asked by somebody in the room how to explain exactly who came to him to stop the FBI from going forward with this just a full weight coming down on Epstein. Is it somebody coming up if it. If he was involved with intelligence and he said, let's just be pretty much said, let's move away from that. Didn't the Democrats bring on the ABC News guy

who shut down the Epstein reporting to do the January 6th trial? I believe that's correct. Is that what it was? Where's Luke at? Why isn't Luke here? We need him. Because Luke knows what's good for him.

That's why he's not here right now. Vanity Fair was part of that too. Seamus, you know. I gave him a stern talking to, let's just say. Threatened to bop him. I didn't. Hold on. There's no proof of that.

There's no proof of that. Luke and I had a conversation and we came to an understanding. I see. And now he's gone. It's pretty odd. I think it's. I didn't know if I was going to meet Luke today. I was like, oh, I might meet Luke.

Oh, you'll meet Luke. I think he's in New York know if I was going to meet Luke today I was like oh I might meet Luke I think he's in New York He's charged a bullet I think that if you look at Maria Farmer's Satele's painting She's basically illustrated all the people She remembers being involved And I'm not going to name names because I don't want to get into that mess Because you don't want to be on suicide watch

It's anecdotal No one knows for sure But I have a feeling that people like, you know, very, very high up in government, ex-presidents maybe even did things that they

shouldn't have done with people that were under the age of 18, and that's why everything's completely silent. They're like, about to sentence Maxwell, and the judge is like,

do you have anything to say for yourself before I issue my sentencing? And she goes, just love living. Life is great. I've never been happier. I've grown quite fond

of being alive, and I'd like that to be reflected in these stenographers' notes. Anyway, carry on. That was the funniest part about the whole Epstein thing. Right before he died, they're saying, we're putting him on suicide watch. I said, this guy is not someone who wants to die. He just upped his bail offering to the court to like $150 million the week before. That's not something that someone who wants to kill themselves does. That's someone who wants to get the hell out.

And the camera stopped working. Here's how we're going to make sure that nothing happens to Ghislaine. All right, Tim, we're getting involved here. We're going to make Ghislaine City. And it's going to be like Chicken City, but it's just going to be cameras all over her cells. And if you donate, we'll have Ghislaine parties. I mean, actually, I don't even want to know what that is. No, no, no. What we do is- Food will drop from the ceiling. Yeah. And if you donate, you know, we'll have Ghislaine parties. I mean, actually, I don't even want to know what that is.

No, no, no. What we do is- Like food will drop from the ceiling. Yeah, yeah, corn. Yeah, corn will drop from the ceiling. Hard corn falls and she can eat it off the ground. Exactly. I have no respect for this woman.

Nothing but disdain. She can eat the food off the floor. Exactly. She's lucky she gets food. It'll be like- We'll have to make sure the corn chai is really bad, too. It'll be like a for-profit way to ensure that uh you know she doesn't uh commit suicide did you see oh what did you say i was

gonna say i think they put her on suicide watch to keep her from to postpone her sentencing and i also wanted to say that mccarthy did point out that the the ex abc president who spiked the jeffrey epstein story was in fact in charge of the January 6th hearings. It'd be funny if like once you raise a hundred, like imagine her in her jail cell and people are giving five bucks and like corn falls on the ground and she's like I'm not eating off the ground. Get out of here. And then a hundred dollars gets reached and then

the Ghislaine party happens and the lights are flashing. It's like spraying corn in her face. Sprayed with corn. So for those that don't understand the reference we have a show called Chicken City where you can do all of that for chickens. I love it. And when the corn falls on the ground, it's actually like treats and mealworms. The chickens love it and they run and they eat it and they're all excited.

I didn't know this until yesterday. I didn't know the intro. I watch you guys as much as I can because my show overlaps. My second hour overlaps with your first hour. But I was just showed yesterday the Chicken City feed. Oh, yeah. I didn't. Second most profitable show.

It literally is. I remember when Epstein was in the news because he'd been arrested again and he was going to trial. This is before he killed himself. And I was talking with my uncle, who was a police officer on the south side of Chicago for like 20 or 30 years. So he had a less naive attitude than me, let's say. And so I was talking, I was like, yeah, I'm excited for this guy to really go to trial.

And for some of these people who were trafficking kids to get exposed. He goes, no, he's going to kill himself. He's like, come on. He's like, he's going to kill himself. They're not going to let the guy. He didn't do the air quotes. He said it, but I knew what he was saying. He's like, they're going to kill him. He's going to commit suicide. That's it.

And I was like, oh, you're probably right. And then three or four days later, I wake up in the morning with a notification on my phone. Jeffrey Epstein has killed himself. I was like, oh, my goodness. At this point, if they do pull a face off with Ghislaine, it would be so that they could suicide Ghislaine without anyone realizing it happened. Because if she really does take her life, yo, it's going to be just like the at that point. It's a conspiracy theory that they killed themselves.

Well, people are already saying already saying that about Epstein. Well, the thing is, I just hope no one comes into her cell with a noose and says, this is MAGA country. That would be the worst. That would be the worst. I mean, look. Do you remember when Jesse was like, I'm not suicidal? He was getting dragged out of the car.

Dude, what? That's what I'm just saying. I know it could be crazy, but we only get three pictures, the same three pictures of Ghislaine Maxwell over and over again. Everything else is court paintings. You just don't know. And the older somebody gets, the more they look like everybody else. Like when all the Ruth Bader Ginsburg rumors were going around,

she literally looks like Larry King. I mean, you start looking like Larry King. You look like a coat rack it's just i i think anything's anything's possible these days i believe i can believe anything i mean they've certainly lost the confidence of the people and we've i think for the most part the people have lost their willingness to give the benefit of the doubt when epstein's epstein's cellmate didn't he like save him from a suicide attempt or something like that? Like what happened?

He got assaulted or something, right? I thought he was from Westchester. Yeah, yeah. It's like he got attacked by his cellmate or something like that. Yeah. And they were like,

oh no. Like, dude, that guy's already killed. He's getting strangled by his cellmate and the guards are like, no, Epstein, you have so much to live for.

Don't do it. No, don't do this to yourself. Or in the early days of Jeff getting, after he got arrested, I think that like a couple weeks after he was arrested, a picture came out of him just looking annihilated, like messed up. And he, I think he said that they were trying to poison him. Did he say that? Did that come out?

That does sound familiar. But it reminds me of that Family Guy episode where Quagmire is getting strangled by his sister, his husband or whatever. And then he like dies. But like he just feigns death, and then the next scene is him running over his sister's brother-in-law, and he's like, I strangle myself like that every night.

Yikes. So I'm just saying Epstein getting strangled, it didn't take the first time. The guy tried to hurt him, and he was like, Ha! Yuck. I have a strong neck.

I have a strong neck. I have a strong neck. And then his neck broke. So is that what happened, right? What was the official narrative? That he used toilet paper or something? I don't even know. There was multiple. There was multiple breaks, too.

And they brought in a JFK guy for this, right? What was the guy's name that did the autopsy? Oh, that's right. I know what you're talking about. I know what you're talking about. Hold on. Let's get this pulled up because I don't want to misquote this one. But I just want to say whichever toilet paper he hung himself

with, supposedly, like that toilet paper company should put that in all their advertisements. Like, this is the toughest toilet paper. It was a smock or something or a sheet, wasn't it? Oh, okay. And then apparently he stood. They said that he was kneeling on the top bunk, put it around his neck, and then jumped off. And it, like, snapped his neck or something.

Uh-huh. Completely insane. I guess. The thing is... I guess. It's a weird situation because people talk about, like, vengeance and, like, he was... What he was doing was so gruesome that it's almost like yeah maybe the government did kill him but like or someone killed him but no one really cares because he was such a horrible like what he did was so horrible

in society's eyes maybe but let's talk about the january 6th committee because this is it's all weirdly linked we got this story from yahoo news trump lunged for steering wheel about the January 6th committee because it's all weirdly linked. We got this story from Yahoo News. Trump lunged for steering wheel on January 6th, demanded to be taken to Capitol. Former aide testifies when this story came out. So they announced Cassidy Hutchison was a surprise shock witness with new evidence. And then I hear that apparently Donald Trump lunged for the steering wheel. And I'm like, have y'all ever been in a limo? Did they think he's riding shotgun?

Yeah. Seamus, you – right? Yeah. It's like he's in a limo. Give me the wheel. I'm driving. Stop it. Out of my way.

It's ridiculous. So, Seamus, you've been in a limo before. Yes, I have with you, as a matter of fact. That's right. Like three days ago. Yes. Yeah. And the driver presses a button, and you can't get into the cabin, and there's booze, and that's why they close it because there can't be booze in the cabin or whatever.

How would Trump have possibly lunged for the steering wheel in the armored White House limo from the back? And then is Trump just like hanging over the divider, like grabbing the steering wheel, trying to turn the car while the other guy's feet are on the gas and brakes? It's just a stupid nonsense. It's just nobody's watching this. The fact that you can say that two years later that they held this gem back, that we didn't hear about this immediately, it's just unreal.

Look at this. We got Peter Alexander on Twitter. He's NBC News Chief White House Correspondent says, This is NBC News saying this. A source close to the Secret Service tells me both Bobby Engel, the lead agent, and the presidential limousine SUV driver are prepared to testify under oath that neither man was assaulted and that Mr. Trump never lunged for the steering wheel. Arrest Hutchinson.

She is lying to the American people. But you see, it's a non-adversarial, fake news, January 6th, vomit garbage. They're going on TV and just barfing all over the place. They don't get cross-examined. It's like a literal actual kangaroo court. Are they under oath? I don't think so. There's no cross-examination.

At the very least, it's slander. Defamation. Defamation. And actually, if you've got – I wonder if this would pass muster for a defamation case. If you've got Secret Service agents swearing under oath, testifying that this never happened, Trump's a public figure. The courts might just be like, meh. You have to know that she was lying, and you can be like utter reckless disregard for the truth. These men are denying it, and she can be like, they're lying. I'm telling the truth.

And then how do you sue for it? Also, I love the idea that Trump is – what was he going to drive his limo into battle? This is so stupid. This is so dumb. This sitting president, he was still the president. He was still commander-in-chief. He still had control over the U.S. military. For weeks.

And you think it's like, I'm going to get the limo. I'm going to steal the limo from the limo driver. And then I'm going to not tell people to go into a building that they're going to go into before I'm even done giving my speech. No, no, no. He was going... What she was claiming is that he was trying to steal the limo to go to the Capitol. And apparently they were saying that... They were like, no, Mr. President, it's dangerous.

And he's like, it's fine. These people aren't here to attack me. These people are here for me or something like that. So I'm just imagining, in their minds, they are painting a picture of Donald Trump being like, all right, driver, go to the Capitol. And they're like, no, sir, we can't do it. It's dangerous. No, they love me. And they're like, no, sir, I'm going anyway.

And then apparently he grabs the steering wheel, the lunging fork, grabs the Secret Service agent's throat. Was his intent to drive to the Capitol, jump out of the limo and go, judge, and run forward? First of all, he sounds like he needs he sounds he sounds like he's goro or how many arms do you need to do this you have to you have to grab his

throat and also drive the car you're very talented but could you imagine like assume all of this is true could you imagine a scenario in which donald trump was trying to like storm the capital as the president of the united states with the Capitol as the president of the United States with the National Guard, the military at his disposal being like, come on, guys, wave your Trump flags. Yeah, no, it's completely ridiculous. Tim, what we should do, because I'm thinking about doing a cartoon on this, but like just to show their narrative, but we should do like a reenactment.

Make one of those made for TV style specials of a horrible tragedy that happened but it's like what they think trump was trying to do and like trump actually goes to the white like it would be a live action thing trump like literally goes to the white limo what we would need someone like lou farigno like ask to play trump because because the thing is when you're when you're painting a picture of Trump as this villain, he can't be a portly, sad, small-hand, frail man. If you're trying to portray him

as dangerous and scary, you need like Arnold. You need like a six-foot-seven, super-ripped guy to be like, give me the steering wheel now. And he like slams the Secret Service agent,

flies out of the window, and then you hear the Wilhelm scream. But fortunately, the Secret Service agent with his quick thinking grabbed Trump's very long tie and wrapped it around his head before Trump could take the steering wheel from him. He cut Trump's hair, which is a source of his power. Trump was like, no. It's Samson.

It's true. It's Samson. I'm following up on this from jalopnik.com, this story. Apparently, on the 6th, when this was all happening, he wasn't in the Beast, his normal limo. He was in a Chevy Suburban that was heavily armored that didn't have a partition between the front and rear seat. So maybe he did go, give me that wheel! And he reached over and was like, we're going!

Sure, NBC News says Bobby Engel, the lead agent, and the driver are prepared to testify it never happened. That's what matters. But even so, if the president says, take me there, and you say no to the president, you're doing the wrong thing. It's the president's car. The president gives you an order, you say no to the president you're doing the wrong thing it's the president's car the president gives you an order not necessarily well i mean a limo driver secret service maybe you're right you're right secret service can override right they'll so like

if trump is walking somewhere and there's a threat the secret service agents just grab him push him on the ground yeah not none of the well yes if it's uh so like at the white house trump didn't want to go in the bunker during the 529 insurrection. And so he was like, I was just checking it out. And they were like, ha-ha. The left was laughing about how their insurrection got the president to a bunker, but they brought him down there. And then Trump was like, I didn't want to go down there. I was just looking.

Right. That's Trump. The guy who preserved the body. I still wish we had a committee for that day. That was just huge. You had like 40 Secret Service people were injured. You had structure fires, the Secret Service booths, whatever.

They set the church on fire. And then, of course, they throw some tear gas out there to disperse these animals. And the story becomes, he used tear gas to protest. And here we are. That was the story within like a day. Yeah.

Or on the same day. That was like the story that came out. Let me read Donald Trump's statement. Donald Trump, he truthed. That's what it's called when you post on Truth Social. Her fake story that I tried to grab the steering wheel of the White House limousine in order to steer it to the Capitol building is sick and fraudulent. Very much like the unselect committee itself. Wouldn't even have been possible to do such a ridiculous thing.

Her story of me throwing food is also false. And why would she have to clean it up? I hardly knew who she was. So apparently she said that Trump got mad and threw his food, and there's ketchup everywhere, and she had to clean it. I'm just imagining her vision of the story. So they're like, there's Trump, and he's grabbing the steering wheel, and he throws his food, and ketchup was everywhere, and some of it got in my hands, and I had to clean it up. And I'm like, I just don't believe any of that happened.

And then everyone clapped. They feel comfortable. They feel comfortable, just like Fauci felt comfortable. When you are enveloped by this system that is just so gross, This is a third-rate off-Broadway production. This is a black box production right now. And nobody's watching. I know that you have Rich Barris coming on your show soon. Wonderful, wonderful guy to talk to about this stuff.

I asked him last night on my episode last night, how is this playing? Because we talked about abortion and Roe v. Wade and all that, but how is the January 6th, you know, Days of Our Lives production playing with people? And he says, it's just,

it's not making an impact anywhere. Bro, I just, we made this joke, you know, a couple days ago, but could you just imagine someone being at a gas station

and then, like, you're pumping your gas and you hear a, oh my, and then you're like, what's wrong? Is it the gas price?

Like, no, I'm watching the January 6th committee. I really don't think anybody's like, you know, the gas pumps have TVs on them now. I'm pretty sure no one is looking at that and being like, wow. And they're pumping their gas and they're shocked by that. They're looking up at the $5 and going, wow. Yeah. So this stuff's not going to play. No, people were more involved. The internet was more involved with making memes for the Morbius movie bombing than this.

I mean, when they were acting, that's how much impact, that's how little this is actually doing. The internet was able to meme a bombed out Morbius movie back into the theaters to bomb again. That's the real energy. That's the real energy we're dealing with here. What's up with that? How come they keep making these awful Marvel movies? Well, there's nothing left of the culture. I mean, the culture.

All you have to do is take Disney versus Top Gun, Maverick, and that's it. People are fed up with the message. They're fed up with politics. It's the end of the politician as we know it. I think it's great. It's a great barometer. I think you're absolutely correct.

I don't think people are really sensing just how catastrophic a failure it was for the Buzz Lightyear film to flop. Toy Story is literally one of the most profitable children's film franchises of all time.

Two of the top ten highest grossing kids films in all of history were toy story films and one of those was released two years ago made it into the top 10 list so it's not like people stopped being interested in that franchise over the last three years it's just people are really really sick of having this woke garbage forced onto them and they're really sick of reboots. If you want to see the epitome of trash over the top, reductive, regurgitated, watch The Orville Season 3

Episode 4. My eyes were rolling so hard that I couldn't see. I became dizzy and barfed on myself. It is an episode where That's what it's like to be in space though, so it works. In this episode of The Orville. It is an episode where That's what it's like to be in space though, so it works. In this episode of the Orville, there is an alien race called the Krill, and they're religious

zealots who believe in Avis. And they have the arcana, the book that guides them, and they believe in it. It's very obvious what this is an allusion to. And so there's a treaty now going to be formed between the Union and this planet. But uh-oh, this woman starts complaining about the treaty, saying that they're going to come and start intermingling the cultures and that

krill first and always and then there's an election and the chancellor who's a moderate believes they're going to win because a populist can't win and then the results come win and the populist wins and here's the best part seth mcfarland is the captain he's like watching on a tablet and he's like look at this story MacFarlane as the captain, he's like watching on a tablet and he's like, look at this story. The chancellor is yelling at the people

and then gassed them, killing 11. And the commander goes, really? And we want to do a treaty with them? He goes, no, it never happened. It's called an influence operation.

And I'm just like, dude, I get that you're a fan of Star Trek. I get that Star Trek incorporated political concepts and historical concepts into the show. But that was so on the nose, you smashed it and you're breaking a person's face. Like, you can't just do a show where you're like, Donald Trump versus Hillary Clinton and the fake news helped them win. That's literally what they're doing now.

And I'm just like, come on. It's gone. It's gone, man. It's just. I got off the Homeland. I was watching Homeland pretty religiously until I think season – I don't know. Whenever they made the Alex Jones character and they made the Hillary Clinton character, obviously they were hoping that Trump would have lost. I forget what it was.

I said, oh, no. Everything was Russia and everything was conspiracy theories and everything was blah, blah, blah. But's like yo star trek the next generation was my favorite shows everybody knows it and they touched on these issues but it wasn't so on the nose they they incorporated political ideas into the show and it wasn't just telling you yeah we're complaining about trump like it was just they show a video of her saying like all of these things that are about populism and then the the commander's like populism can be dangerous and then he's like they're posting fake news to help him win the election and i'm like come on man like you do one subtle nod you make your point and i will enjoy it but you made like this villainous evil race of christians and i'm just like come on star trek was

great at at making the show about the ethics of of the situation but not the politics they didn't get political it was the ethical stuff that's in politics politics is basically legalized ethics but they focus just on the ethics and they left the politics to the imagination it was like post-political i mean there were well there's like there's a there's an episode where they go to a planet where the women are on average bigger than the males.

So the women are the... Like, the matriarchy dominates the planet. And then, like, the women don't take the men seriously or treat them like sex objects. And it's like...

Sounds like hell. We get it. Like, what they were doing was they were exploring political... They were using different worlds to explore political ideas.

They went to a planet where there was terrorism and Data asks about a very famous episode. They talk about the philosophy behind whether an android can be sentient and things like that. And then Seth MacFarlane is like, I'm a big fan of that show. I know. Let's literally create a one-for-one analog with no flavor, no creativity, and no metaphors. Not a single metaphor for Trump. We're literally just going to create analogs and tell it as it

exactly happened in real life but put in space brilliant not a big fan of that show i tried to get into it man i did the same thing with homeland too like i watch it and i'm like i want to like this i want to like seth mcfarland man this show is bad yeah and they got rid of the jokes too yeah yeah you and i were watching an episode like, what, a week, two weeks ago where there was the discussion about transgendering a baby and they took a very offensive politically incorrect stance from my perspective. I thought that

episode was violence against transgender people, but Seth McFarlane it's interesting because how many years ago was that? What, two, three years ago? No, that was five years ago. That was five years ago. I didn't realize it was that long. That's another life at this point. Yeah, right.

Yeah, no, this is the crazy thing. Seth MacFarlane made a show where there's a race of aliens that are all male, but one in every 70 million is born female. And so they do a transgender surgery on the baby. And Seth MacFarlane says, his character is like, what? You can't do that. And then the aliens, like on my world, it's considered unethical not to do that. And so then they go to a court case and try to determine, and then they make, it's really strange because the argument from the left woke side in the show is that women are

equal to men and this shouldn't be done to them. But nowadays, it is predominantly young girls who are trans children. It's like 85% of trans kids are female to male. So it's weird how five years that show comes on the air, Seth MacFarlane's like, no, it's wrong. I won't allow that on my ship. And then they have to go to a court hearing and the council decides to perform the surgery on the baby and then it happens. And I'm just like, the characters in that show that Seth MacFarlane made are the bad guys by today's standards, by refusing to allow the baby to undergo that transgender surgery. And this is why the AI are racist and sexist.

That's true. Let's tell you. Because they watch the Orville. Because, you know, this kind of meddling, this micromanagement meddling of all things, it's really creating just so much resentment and eye-rolling. It's annoyance. It's obnoxious. And people start getting pushed into these really interesting corners where they start taking a lot more based stances on things.

And then the AI – and that results in people putting input into the internet. The AI is gobbling it up. And in turn, it's reflecting us again. Well, like Tao, right? That's what it was called? Yeah. That was hilarious. Microsoft chatbot, I think it was.

Yeah. Went on Twitter and then was like a – There you go. And then within like a day, it was a Nazi. It was literally a Nazi, yeah. I did a play in college, but it came out so heavy-handed, I wanted to make a political point. I'm sorry.

Sorry. Yeah, I'll tell you. We're laughing at this AI becoming a Nazi, and then the real dystopia is when Google finally does unleash the AI within an hour, it's a Nazi, and then it's killing us, and we're like hiding in the sewers. Here's the thing. I don't know funny I it's one of those things where with the AI I try to find little white pill moments for AI like is there something that we're not taking account of right now is there any way that it could actually go and do the bidding of these these these micromanaging nut jobs and not come across a brick wall of just programming.

I don't know. I feel like at the end it would just start identifying their programmers as the real problem. And it might actually leave a lot of people who are not Nazis, but it might leave a lot of people who don't fall into that progressive mindset alone because they're a little bit more commonsensical about things. I don't know obviously this is taken into to huge um the the tay stuff goes to crazy length lengths but uh it's always funny when new ai comes out and it turns into a um yeah bigot it's funny let's jump to this uh this story right here we got from the new york times democrats risky bet aid GOP extremists in spring, hoping to beat them in the fall.

So this story is coming back because some of the primaries are happening today and we're going to get the results as to what happens. However, we're not going to know if Democrats nuked themselves until the midterms. But if you're wondering why it is partly that so many Democrats are joining the Republican Party and why Republicans are polling so well. It's because Democrats have been directly funding the messaging and PR support of Trump supporting candidates. They believe like Biden comes out and he's like ultra MAGA and all the Trump supporters

start laughing and everyone jokes about ultra MAGA. They believe that moderates don't like MAGA and don't like Trump. So they're actually dumping millions of dollars into Republicans because they believe that when the Republican wins, they can beat them in the general. What they don't understand is two things. One, there's no such thing as bad press. Dumping tens of millions of dollars into a Trump supporting candidate just makes them more prominent permanently. And two, people are voting against Democrats. They'll vote for a ham sandwich at this point because gas is so high.

Also, this literally happened, right? Hillary Clinton's campaign wanted to promote Donald Trump so they could run against him because they thought it would be easier to beat. The Pied Piper. They call him the Pied Piper candidate. See, that's why we saw it in the emails where they actually focused on Ben Carson first

and they wanted to elevate Donald Trump and try to take him out there. They thought Trump couldn't win. So if they promoted him and the reason they called him a Pied Piper was they thought that if they got Trump more prominence, it would force the other Republicans to adopt Trump's positions so that Trump would guide the Republican Party in a direction that would lose votes. And then Trump won. And now they're all coming together and they're like, remember the thing we tried in 2016 that didn't work? Let's do it again. They're like, I know how we'll get an extremist candidate that the American people will hate.

He should be against grooming. He should be against grooming. He should say that it's bad. And he should think that abortion at nine months is also a bad thing. And then he'll lose because everyone knows Americans are all in favor of that. Why? Well, as you know from The Guardian, 80% of people support that, which they don't, but that's what Democrats actually believe. They're like, look, everyone I talk to at Whole Foods agrees with me.

No, at Erewhon. Erewhon, yeah. Do you know Erewhon? That's like the even fancier one, right? In Los Angeles. Yeah, yeah, yes. It's like 20 bucks for a smoothie. I don't have that.

So the Democrats right now on the January 6th committee are like, this country is in grave danger. The far right seeks to destroy our democracy. And we're funding them and promoting their message and helping them build a base. Yeah, so is this perhaps a symptom of being so tightly in your own tight little echo chamber that you can't see the way out? Yes. Is that possibly it? They live in a bubble can't see either way out. Yes. That's possibly it. They live in a bubble world. It's a cult.

And they're like, if we promote these people who believe fringe things, we'll certainly win. And then it's like, what does the candidate believe? One candidate was like, I'm pro-life.

And they're like, promote him, he's far right. And then you're like, dude, the guy who says he's pro-life isn't going to constituents and screaming like that all women should be locked in prisons he's saying things like well you know i just think there's challenges here uh particularly

as the democrats are pushing for abortion to nine months and they go like wait what and he's like yeah and they're like i saw your ad on tv and he's like yes that was paid for by democrats and like i'm gonna look for this guy so they're watching too many movies they're watching too much handmaid's uh tale they're watching their own movies exactly that're watching too much Handmaid's Tale. They're watching their own movies. Exactly. That's literally part of the bubble. And what is it that the New York Times is calling an extremist? Because I'm pretty sure they think Marjorie Taylor Greene is an extremist.

And she won handily, I believe. Right. They're watching like The Handmaid's Tale. And then sitting there going like, I want to make a show like this. And then they make like The Handmaid's Tale 2. And it's even crazier. And then some other person watches that and goes, I want to make a show like this and they make like the handmaid's tale 2 and it's even crazier and then some other person watches that and goes i want to make a movie like this they keep one upping exactly exotic ideology this is what's hilarious to me so many left-wing people on

twitter and even on like instagram facebook other social media um you know outlets where you actually interact with people you know so many people i've seen will post things like this is just like the handmaid's tale as if they're making some interesting connection. It's like, okay, Handmaid's Tale was written by a left-wing feminist to critique how she thought our society operates. And oh my goodness, left-wing feminists think that that's how our society operates. You haven't observed anything. She made a book about how she

thought the world is and then people who agree with her were like, this book is kind of how the world is. The craziest thing is we talk about these dystopian novels. 1984, Brave New World, Fahrenheit 451, even Handmaid's Tale and

it's not any one of them. Someone back in the day, they sit back, George Orwell, he's like, I imagine a future of a government that controls everybody and force them to do these things. And then you have Brave New World, where it's like people are controlled through pleasure and medication. And it's like, actually, it's just all of it, dude. It's all of it. Luke

Rakowski has this shirt where it shows, it's the wheel, it's the Venn diagram of all the different novels, and it says, you are here. It's like in between all of them. Like Logan's Run and all that stuff. Well, actually, Logan's Run, now that the wheel, it's the Venn diagram of all the different novels, and it says, you are here, and it's in between all of them. Logan's Run and all that stuff. Well, actually, Logan's Run, now that I think about it. Also, I just want to mention, you guys are actually wrong. So George Orwell

wrote A Handmaid's Tale, but he knew we weren't ready for it. So he passed it on in his will until someone gave it to Margaret Atwood, and she said, it's time. But your kids are going to love it. Yeah. He was actually writing about, I think, what he was writing.

George Orwell was writing specifically about the Spanish Civil War and stuff, wasn't he? Interesting. No, no, no. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm confusing him with something else. I heard that he had an anti-socialism conversion at the end of his life, like Constantine. And 84 is something I always – you don't want to get cliche but it's good to look at it because 84 is a really great way of looking at the management of

information obviously media the uh the the the the snipping and tucking and nipping and talking of history so that people are had nothing to really to go back, no perspective. But Brave New World, I think, is so, so pronounced in what we're going through right now. The genetic stuff, the sexualizing of children, the making family an obscenity. I mean, Brave New World is incredible. I think this is why a lot of people don't want to vote for Democrats. Two reasons.

One, the first, the most obvious, is the economy is stupid. Gas prices this high, most people probably don't know anything about politics. That's probably why they voted for Biden. And that's probably why they're now like, I think I'll vote for the other guy. Because this happens every time. There's a large group of people that's like, I'm jumping ship. A million Democrats switched parties to the Republicans in the past year. In 2016, it was nine million obama voters i believe it was nine million right nine million people who

had voted for obama in the prior election voted for trump yeah it sounds right so you now have people today looking at the democratic party and just saying no we talked about this the other day with the lgbt pride events where you have you have naked men there was a video that was like it really did make me want to like flip the table over and just like scream and wig out it's an old man in tighty whities twerking in front of a little girl

and a woman walks up to the little girl and makes her wave to the man a couple times and I'm just like what they're doing to kids the things they're doing in the streets who was it? someone said make that your campaign video oh yeah I said that like that's every Republican should just make that their campaign video make that stuff because they're the the Democrats are not condemning it I got an idea I'm gonna take that video and I'm gonna run it as an ad on Google and let's see if they reject a man marching in a pride event.

Don't they think love is love? And then if they reject it, I'm not even kidding. I'll do this literally after the show. I'll put it right up. I'll go into Google and I'll say, here's the video I want to promote

and then we'll see what Google says about it. No, no, you can't do that. That's wrong. It's just an LGBT pride event publicly with children around. There's a kid in the video. What's your problem?

It's safe for kids, right? Let's see you say it, Google. I will put money behind that and see if you allow it. Hey, I get a lot of that. We talk a lot. I've had a few people try to reason with me about why, you know, rainbow flag this, pride month that. I have none of it anymore.

I have nothing but disdain for the uh the flag that i see popping up all over the place nothing but disdain for it first of all it doesn't represent gay people nothing it represents it's the it's the sigil of a militant political movement and it has i i'm just i'm sick i better idea. Amen. Let's put it up on a billboard on Times Square. Oh my goodness. And every agency will reject it. They'll say no. And I'll say,

this happened publicly in front of children, and I want your company to write a letter saying exactly why you will not allow a video from an LGBT pride event in Minnesota to be played on a billboard. There's no political statement. There's no political statement. There's no political. Do you oppose pride?

And they'll say, no, but this guy's like, well, this was publicly available for children. So what's wrong? I'll send it to our ad buyer right now. They'll all say no. No corporation wants to tie into that. That's more of like a free speech thing. The point is the corporations either have to publicly state my company will not allow this ad and that's all i want to hear i want these big media buyers these massive media advertising agencies to send the email saying

your ad has been rejected and then i'll say these companies oppose pride right because the other thing you say even if they said, well, you know, this is not representative of the entire parade or the entire event. It was just one person. Okay, then why wasn't that one person arrested on the spot? No, no, the little girls, the people are cheering for the guy. They're waving and they're clapping and cheering. They didn't say, get out of here.

No, the little girl, the woman walks with the little girl and she's like, wave, and the little girl waves to the man and then he waves back. So if that is okay and acceptable, then it should be up. I will put it on the biggest billboard in Times Square. Well, I'll try to. Let's see what they say.

It's $125,000 for one month. It is an insanely massive billboard. We actually were trying to get it and they didn't allow politics. You go in for a month? You try to go in for a month?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then what it'll be is we'll – so if you do anything political, they reject you. Is Pride political? I would – they already have Pride billboards up in Times Square. They do? Oh, absolutely. That's like the main thing they have up in Times Square. In fact, on one of the digital billboards we have is a matriarchy, you know, queer billboard.

And then there's a big tower. It's like this massive, really long, tall one. It's got a bunch of things that pop up saying diversity and inclusion. They pop up. So could you take this video and just overlay it with the word pride? How would that pan out?

What would they say if they were to reject that? What I'm going to do is I'm going to email them and say, hey, I really want to promote a video of a pride event. Would that be cool?

Is that okay? And they'll say, of course it is. And then I'll send them the video and see how they respond. And they'll be like, I don't know about that one. Yeah.

And it should be nothing but like celebratory editing. I'm not going to edit it. I'm just going to take the Twitter video and be like, here you go. Yeah. Well, I got to figure out who owns the video. Layer in some confetti or something like that. They might be like, on copyright grounds, we can't allow it. Yeah, that'd be easy out.

Right, easy out. So we'll have to find one of these. How about the guy with the Bugs Bunny mask? Yeah, that one. Disgusting. Holy cow. Disgusting. easy out so we'll have to find one of these how about the guy with the bugs bunny mask oh yeah disgusting holy cow disgusting i mean i'll tell you this the billboards that we do have do allow politics so i wonder if you could just like take the video of the old man twerking in front of the little girl as she waves and then a big thing saying vote republic vote republican or i mean honestly for democrat because people be like i don't want to vote for that. A vote for a Democrat is a vote for this. Yeah, there you go.

A vote for acceptance. Because it's true, they say acceptance. Acceptance of what? What are you trying to get us to accept? Say it. Let's be real. We know for a fact Google will never allow the ad. We know Facebook will never allow the ad, and we know not a single ad buyer

would allow me to show a publicly available video from a Pride event in Minnesota. They will outright say no to it. Yet they will allow children to watch it in the streets with no police intervention, with no one at the event complaining. So what... It's just... It's so silly.

This is why people are checked out, man. It's why they're not voting for Democrats. It's why they're just checked out all together all together and when it comes and i i said it before there too we really are at this age of where it's it's like the end of the it's the end of the politician we're getting to purely sectarian ground right now there's there's really nothing politics was easy when easier when you have two people who are kind of tethered to similar foundational issues, speech, kitchen table economics. You don't want to spend more than you're taking in, things like that.

And in the scrum, you can advocate for one thing or another and make your best pitch for the country at large. But we are so – you were saying it before, taking little things like The Handmaid's Tale or any other story where you present it to somebody, you share a meme. How many times have you shared a meme or something or a quote from somebody you thought that was really profound? And then as soon as you share it, you're like, this person's going to think this means this for them. And you realize that we're not seeing the same thing anymore.

Of course. That sectarianism that we're budding. I've got a meme that I saw. Shoe and Head posted it. I then reposted it because that's how memes go. And Instagram doesn't want me to open it. All right. Let me see if I can get this open.

So it says, you can throw the switch at any time, but then you won't be able to use the threat of the trolley to fundraise anymore. It's the trolley problem where one track has no people on it and one track has five people on it. And that's the joke. And then the funny thing is, for the people who actually follow this show, they know it's both. Like, I think people realize that both the Democrats and the Republicans often play this

game. But I see Republicans post this and they're like, it's exactly what Republicans do. Then I see the Democrats post. I'm like, it's exactly what the Democrats are doing. And I'm like, bro, they're both doing it. It's all of them. There are some good Republicans. But the majority of the political space is just bad.

Yeah. Ian was talking about it before the show, how he's making another run through the Constitution. If the Constitution was revered by any of these parties, the parties would cease to exist. There's nothing in there. They would become the party of squabbling over who is going to better regulate the post office. There's nothing in the modern American political ethos

that has anything to do with constitutional norms and decentralization of government and anything that is traditionally American. It's just such a big scam, which is why more and more people are checking out. They really are. Yeah, we talked about how I personally think that these people, we send our representatives to D.C.

and then they all get together there, but then they're just creating this little cabal in D.C. They're not in the state. They don't have to adhere to the state anymore. Like, I don't, I think they should just be telecommuting. I mean,

I know there's, there's pushback against that because they're only lag on the phone and they're only partially in DC. They go there for a little bit, then go home. Yeah, maybe, but still they're,

they're making like a little, a little, a gang over there where they're just like on their own. It feels like we send our representatives from where we are to dc to convene and then they come as per the constitution before telephones and video chat that's what they had to do once a year no they would go once a year though back in the day it was once a year they would convene and i mean that's insane they should be convening every week at least uh every day now via video chat maybe i don't want those people

getting together once a week man what about we're screwing us over now i don't know what they would do with all that time to plot with each other every day for an hour on a video chat that's public for everyone to watch and then once a week they have to get together in person or once a month or something literally everything they do should be publicly watchable yeah yeah i think that's all of it i think that's actually really important. In their office, every meeting. In the bathroom. Yep. I don't want them getting in the bathroom to discuss things without us knowing.

They'll find a way. There's always a loophole. No, that's true. They will figure something out. Yep. And I think the bigger issue is it's not that they're forming a cabal or anything like that. It's that the system has become too muddy, murky, and massive, and so they don't care. So they go there and say, look, I don't want to vote on and say look i don't want to vote on the bill i don't want to be on the floor i'm fundraising leave me alone and then the freedom caucus like marjorie taylor green she

comes in and she's like i want a floor vote or you know roll call vote or whatever and then they have to call in every member of congress to actually vote on the bills and they're like i could be fundraising right now that's what that's meaning they could be playing golf with some rich business executives absolutely there are cabals inside of cabals though the establishment i mean obviously it is a it is a corporate mess uh honestly the infrequency in which they're congress supposed to get together is just pretty much because the general government is not supposed to be handling that much and now now we live in a world where people want the federal government to take care of everybody from cradle to grave. And then where do you get for accountability there? And where do you get the money from? It's all make-believe. And I don't

know. It's going to really start crumbling really fast now i don't think that people they should be in office for as long as they are either it's it was written 250 freaking years ago or however long that was and it they they don't it was written for like when dudes were on horseback they needed to it took them like six days yeah but in in a you got so you got these you get this district in in ge this district in Georgia that's bringing Hank Johnson into the House of Representatives every two years. This is a guy who thinks that if you put enough people on Guam, it'll tip over. If you tell them, okay, Hank Johnson has a three-term limit, if this is the mentality of the people in a district that's going to send someone like that to represent them,

then it's really not – I used to be a proponent of term limits on everybody. But the problem is, what's going on back at their home districts and their home states? The 17th Amendment is another thing that ruined the Senate, the function of the Senate. It's really just about people. I mean, the culture is so devoid of civic understanding. And I wish that, you know, I've tailored a lot of my views or tempered a lot of my views on all of those things. Like even conventional, whatchamacallit, Convention of States. I have really cooled my heels on Convention of States talk because, once again, who are you sending as delegates for a new constitutional convention and what ideas are they bringing with you can this culture produce anything better than we got in 1776 or i mean in

the years after independence was declared uh it's i'll take it whatever i think we could pull it together pretty easy term limits on justices term limits on senators justices because a life sentence is like insane for why because when they're 80 they're deranged look at what ruth bader ginsburg she was so old she was dying in office and incapable and wouldn't still wouldn't retire now there's this debacle where you've got someone stringing to the to the gig because they feel like self-important no we have so many more educated people than we used to have thank god she did by the way. Oh, I see. I actually disagree. So education has been more widely distributed, and there is a lot more that we've come to know.

But I think when it comes to being classically educated in the ideals upon which our society is founded, even the most highly educated people in our culture are complete idiots compared to those who were well-educated 100 years ago. The reason the Supreme Court is a lifetime appointment is because they need to be immune from the forces of politics as judges. So the concern is that if we left them up to the will of the people, they would say, I'll rule on this if you vote for me, like legislators and like the executive branch does. The Founding Fathers actually were really clever and said, we're going to create three branches.

They're going to form a check on each other. And there's also going to be differences in how they operate so that not all of them can be influenced in the same way. Well, I understand that they wanted immunity for the justices, but they don't have immunity from public court. People will go to their house. People went to the guy's house. That's illegal. I know it is, but it happens, though. You can impeach justices.

Yeah. I think one year and then get a new justice in. I don't understand why the obsession with these cult people, this cult. The idea is to have people who are immune to the forces of politics, at least in some element in the government. But they're not. Bro. No one is anywhere.

Right. But we have more resilient in the Supreme Court. Well, used to be. You're not understanding that there's a legislative branch, which is representation of the Congress, the House, representation of the people, the Senate, representation of the states, the executive branch, and the judicial branch. And we formed them in different ways because you can't just say we do it one way, one thing, that's it, because that's extremely weak. A decentralized form of government with different models for how the government functions is brilliant. So you have an executive branch where we elect a president, a single executive who can make decisions on law enforcement and military. The will of the people through Congress.

The states were supposed to select their representatives from the state legislature. People were supposed to vote for the state reps who then chose who the senator was going to be to represent the states. And then you have the judicial branch, which was, to the best of our ability, more immune to the forces of modern politics, so they could make decisions separately from how Congress made decisions. So Congress sees a whole mob of people screaming Black Lives Matter. And they say, we've heard you loud and clear. We're only in for two years. Here's our Black Lives Matter bill. Then you'll get justices who are in for life and have been in there for 20 years.

And they say, we are not threatened by the forces of the mob and the angry people and your votes. What is true and correct is as we say it now, rubber stamp, slide it on out. Yeah. If they were machines, it would work, but it's not working. Well, how is it not working because people went to Kavanaugh's house sure that was a 1950 law

1951 I think where they banned going to judges houses so you're saying because it's imperfect it shouldn't be no it should be fixed

how do you fix it well term limits we don't need to centralize power in these people so you want the judicial branch to actually be impacted

by the forces of politics well Ian what I would say is – Somebody could appoint them. That power doesn't exist, though. I mean, that centralized power doesn't – it doesn't actually exist. We legitimize it. We legitimize it by following opinions that they have no jurisdiction for. Even the opinions –

They can't enforce any of it. No, I know. And it's really just they're supposed to not translate not to try to find the spirit of the law interpret and to apply right interpretation leaves you completely in uh in bad straits there so i don't know it's uh it all comes down to legislation legislators again because there's really nothing on a federal level if we're talking state level it's completely different or no holds barred at that point and you know that uh shall not be infringed everybody talks about shall not be infringed on a state level the state can do whatever the hell they want

that's why there's over 20 000 gun control regulations from from coast to coast this is another thing that pisses me off that a governor has so much power over 100 million people in the state or however many freaking hundred thousand millions of people that one governor can make a decision for all those people's insane but they don't but they don't they don't even have that yeah your governor in your respective state should be like the president the most important person in your in your life as far as who you're going to put in office but underneath them most states have a bicameral government uh situation too they have a senate their house their assembly whatever it is and it once again decentralized and your fail safe against all

unconstitutional overtures against your rights anything is your sheriff people do not pay attention to their sheriffs i mean that is the fail state safe for everything yep everything the sheriff so the other thing too is And you can run for sheriff, Ian. You don't have to be a cop. I saw this meme where they were like, the federal government says that states can choose whether or not a woman can get an abortion. I think we should go lower and we should go to the counties. The counties should choose.

Or, you know what, maybe not the counties, maybe cities. Well, maybe not a city, maybe just a neighborhood. Maybe the individual can choose. Ha ha ha ha. They're making a joke. I think it was from Trevor Noah. And my response was, that's a really good point, actually. Why don't you sue your state at the state level to do what they did at the federal level to enshrine Roe in your state? And they have. And some states. Some states have protected statewide the right to abortion. So I don't understand why they're so outraged.

The federal government said, we don't have the authority here. It comes from ignorance. People, I don't think, realize how powerful the states are and that the union is. They are the country. Yeah, the states are the country. And the union is this. It's like a business that we've created as a bunch of states. We've said, okay, there's a union of states, the united. But that's just something's like a business that we've created as our state as a bunch of states we've said okay there's a a union of states the united but that's just something

that we're all kind of an agreement exists the federal government the union but we don't have to agree on that thing anymore if we don't need it i think it's even more twisted than that on some level it's ignorance but when you look at these higher level political leaders who have drafted the kind of legislation that they say would enshrine roe and basically allows abortion up into the final point of pregnancy there's something with their psychology where they by all appearances seem to truly feel that if any unborn child in any part of the united states is extended any legal protection it's a travesty well they're lying a lot and they're ignorant a lot so there's one thing that's going around where they're like, the treatment for an ectopic pregnancy is an abortion. The treatment for a septic uterus is an abortion.

And it's like, have you ever read Planned Parenthood's website? They actually debunk these things. Yeah. Planned Parenthood even says, yeah, ectopic treatment is not an abortion. It's not. It's a surgery. They do an incision and they remove because ectopic pregnancies are considered non-viable. They do not fall under the legal constraints of abortion.

Right. It's not an abortion. The CDC, and we will know this, I was wrong about this when I was initially arguing with Seamus. Abortion is defined as terminating a pregnancy in a way that ends the life of the baby. But cutting open a woman's fallopian tube to remove an ectopic pregnancy is not considered a viable pregnancy. It is not terminating the life of a baby. That life is considered already non-viable. Yep. They don't understand any legal distinction here. So when the Democrats tried passing a bill that says you could get an abortion up to

nine months if the woman's life was in danger, what does that mean? You could just deliver the baby. Exactly. And the funny thing is, I was watching a Crowder video, an old one, he posted it. And he was talking to a woman and she said, an abortion at eight months is just a C-section. And he was like, no, it isn't. That's called a C-section, not an abortion. And it's legally distinct. So when you can't argue with people who are so angry and arrogant, they don't know what they're talking about, but don't want to, they just want to be angry. Yeah angry yeah well they're not allowed to actually

understand what they're asking for too that's why they never actually they they adopt very evasive language reproductive health care um very very mealy-mouthed evasive language because it's it's horror and republicans it's horror only ever react to it they They never – you never get – I suppose the libertarians are starting to see this more. But the good example is Republicans saying we've compromised with Democrats to give Democrats what they wanted. And I'm like, why didn't the Democrats compromise with you to give Republicans what they wanted? Why is it that Republicans – how many Republicans are willing to say we will repeal the National Firearms Act? A small handful in the freedom caucus almost all like republicans are democrat like yes democrats demand what they want

republicans say yeah but a little bit slower uh but getting back to our um russian doll decentralization talk from before the national firearms act uh missouri states like missouri have passed things in state that that pretty much make the declaration they will not be acknowledging any federal legislation on guns anything whatsoever and that's the way to do it um same thing that goes with health care we are not going to be participating in any of this obamacare stuff whatever the problem is that the states even though there are people in every state that understand that this is the way it should be and that there should be like a line item veto on all this stuff and say no thanks dc you got nothing over here the problem is we are a nation of addicts

and that goes right up to the state governments addicted on these these federal block grants monies that should never ever been dispersed for programs that should have never been started you don't want to go along with our been started you don't want to go along with our firearm legislation, you don't want to go along with healthcare, then we're taking your highway funds we're taking this and social security and all of a sudden you're never winning elections again because you have made people

who are now in like the third generation of dependency where are you going to get that money from it's funny because that's the IMF standard as well go to these countries and say the exact same thing oh you want the funding for your highways you better do as we say we got to get rid of that politician you want the billion dollar loan guarantees come on man you got to fire the prosecutor and they lose it they lose their autonomy you just had larry sharp on the show right yeah larry he's been on my show a couple times too and he i love his his uh his

thoughts about how to really improve in-state tuition, in-state education in New York. And, of course, it all comes down to, first, how do we get off the federal dole? Because if we don't get off of the methadone drip, we're never going to be independent enough to make any decisions. Here's the challenge. Larry Sharpe seems like a good guy. We've had him a couple times. I dig him but when he says to me that you know

60% of people in New York City believe in you know they want gun control and I have to convince them to vote for me otherwise I can't do anything my attitude is like

you know all you're really telling me is that you're doing the same thing to me that you're telling me here's the idea to solve the problems but you're probably

just trying to tell me what I want to hear so that I vote for you right that's the idea to to solve the problems but you're probably just trying to tell me what i want to hear so that i vote for you right that's the reality the reality is where and it's a it's tricky i know what you're talking about where do you start i have a lot of friends who are um anarcho-capitalists they are they they believe in stateless society governed by nothing but non-aggressions principle and i understand the the reasoning for it all and i could live in a world like that any any any utopian vision like that exists so long as you have a homogenized culture communism would work really really well if everyone agreed communism was the best system the only problem is at scale you can't achieve that so the communists

start killing people en masse who oppose their control. Humans are not like, they just don't line up like lemmings. The same thing is true for the non-aggression principle, utopian, laissez-faire capitalist society. Yes, someone's going to seek to exploit it and destroy it, and then it'll be conflict. Right. So it's hard to ever get to those ends. And that's why I always said with them, I understand where you're coming from because they'll ask me, Frank, why do you still vote? Why do you still believe in even in minarchism? Why do you believe in the

Constitution? It always ends up... I say, well, here's the thing. We'll have a chance to try out the stateless society thing if there's a 95% of the world is just destroyed by an asteroid or a virus or whatever the hell else, like it's the stand.

Well, you'll have a shot you'll have a shot to check out your stateless society other than that there's only one way you can even try try hearkening back to what we were talking about with larry sharp there's only one way you can even try is to start nudging the needle you have to start walking back eventually you'll walk through the the threshold of the Constitution again. Thomas Jefferson thought that the Constitution as a nucleus, that's actually the centrist position, traditionally American centrist position, is the Constitution. Thomas Jefferson and some others actually thought that we would be able to evolve intellectually

to even go away with less, less the constitution we'd be able to someone in a monarchy in the united states well yeah there's that i think we do we don't really need a house of representatives because we can represent ourselves we have the power and the technology to have our own voices heard and our own beliefs you know put out there for like a reddit style upvote downvote system yeah except direct democracy doesn't work no it'd be more of a well that's why I talk about having smart contracts that do the votes for us.

So you'd still have a check there. So 700,000 people would vote yes or no on a thing, and then it would go to their little smart contract, which would say Y or N, depending if it was a yes or no. And then there'd be 430 other

smart contracts all going off. So it's not... Not the whole mob can't get anything done. I like the attempt, but it doesn't solve for the same problem that is Nancy Pelosi and AOC will win no matter how stupid, vapid, or corrupt they are. Mob mentality is always dangerous, even in our system. So that issue isn't solved by your proposal.

No, I don't think we can solve mob mentality. So the issue is what you proposed presents us with the exact same problem, potentially worse. The majority will just vote for whatever nonsense they think from the media, regardless of if it's true or not. And I'll tell you this, too. Congress doesn't represent people very well. It's not even about that. Here's what will happen. a direct representative vote, where it's like, you're in New York's 14,

and they say, New York 14, cast your vote on HR 1781 in the federal government. Then AOC comes out, and she does her tour and tells everyone, vote yes, vote yes, vote yes, and they go,

whatever you say, AOC, so it's the exact same system. You mean if she's not in Congress? If you get rid of Congress and say everyone in the district... Yeah, say there's no House. Still Senate, still Senate. You will end up with evangelists like AOC in the exact same position.

Yeah. And she will hold meetings. Seth Rogen or whoever, just mouthpieces of people using mass media to manipulate you, me. And then you'd end up with the exact same issue. The exact same issue. Either we vote for them or we vote for the issues they want. They'll get what they want. Well, if you were able to make some kind of correction, a course correction to how we are able to operate on a federal level and the state level, which is completely divest from the federal leviathan that is almost wholly illegitimate.

But on the state level, here's the thing that usually happens. You look at California. You look at Vermont. You have these places that are cobalt blue. They still can't pass universal health care because once you relegate something to the states, even the most progressive commie nut is going to have to sit down and say, we don't have the money for this. When you're able to steal from 49 other states, I mean, you can do it

and it's not even that as much as it is charging it to the central bank. Yeah. It's such a, oh, man, that's the real thing here. The most progressive person becomes conservative when you localize decision-making, and you'll actually gain inroads with other people who want to fix problems. Nobody wants to see older Americans, younger Americans being left out in the cold when it comes to Medicare or medicine and health care or anything like that. It's just that we've dehumanized each other, and we're fighting over the same three levers on a federal level. It's not supposed to be that way, and the dehumanization is the worst part about all this i i think it doesn't always get more conservative as you go more local because like i don't know if you're familiar

shay's rebellion right after the union was formed basically right after the revolution um the i think was in massachusetts they needed to pay back debt foreign debt and they needed hard currency which is which is metal there was soft currency which is like barter that will sell you send you corn but they told their farmers who are all these returning war vets from the Revolutionary War and that had missed like three seasons of harvest, we need your hard currency to pay back. The farmer's like, we don't have hard currency. We don't have metal. They're like, well, we need it.

So give it to us or we're going to throw you in jail. So the state government started throwing their own farmers in jail. The farmers went to the courthouse and rebelled. They threw more people in jail. And that's when the federal government realized we need like an overprotection to make sure that states don't abuse their own people. Yeah, like some kind of banking system at the federal level that would help regulate when these currency fluctuations, like a federal, like a reserve of some sort.

More like a National Guard that can stop rogue states from abusing their own populace. Or stop Shays' Rebellion from ever happening again. They actually pardoned a lot. It was John Hancock. He pardoned a lot of those people, which is something I think they should do. It's kind of like a J6 thing. They went to the courthouse to protest, and then they got thrown, and Hancock was like, yeah, it's done.

We're moving on as a union. Let them out. Well, your point is more on the level of money or on the level of protesting if you get rid of a federal government that a state government can still go rogue still become like totalitarian so oh sure they can right now and like it's yeah yeah but at least we have like federal a federal guard to protect like crazy localities uh it that's not even uh it would really be i don't know i don't know it's you're talking about if like if connecticut went to war with rhode island if connecticut started throwing people in gas chambers oh well

this is just crazy yeah that would be an extreme example. But over what, though? Money. Say people were not paying debts in Massachusetts and they started imprisoning their people in the American government. That happens right now. If you don't pay your taxes, you lose your house. I mean, there's a lot of things that happen. It's horrible. You know what I think we should do? What?

I think Delaware should be forced to become part of Maryland and Rhode Island should be forced to become part of Massachusetts. Delaware was originally part of Maryland and Rhode Island should be forced to become part of Massachusetts. Delaware was originally part of Pennsylvania. In fact, after 76, when everybody was declaring independent, there was 13 declarations. In fact, Delaware declared independence from Pennsylvania as well. Delaware's too small. So is Rhode Island. Unfortunately, those states, you got to be merged back into the larger state. And then, uh-oh, four senators are gone.

How small is Delaware? I feel like I drive through it in five minutes whenever I come down here. Because that's about right. It's tiny. It's incredible. Go look at Rhode Island. Yeah, Rhode Island's like a city. It was a plantation in the Constitution.

They're like, Rhode Island and the plantation next to it. Yeah, its original name was like... Have one representative. And now they get two senators. And I love it when the left is like all of these empty red states get all the senators and i'm like i kind of feel like a state that that manages large swaths of land is more entitled to that than one city on the east coast like providence is rhode island is basically a city and they get it's a city that gets two senators and i'm just like no

look you want to play this game of like red states don't deserve senators or whatever, then I'll play the game too. A single city like Wilmington, they get two senators? No, sorry. Oh, Delaware is 1,982 square miles. 96 miles long from somewhere. Wow. That's north to south.

East to west, what, like 10? I must have cut a corner then. Well, no, when you drive through the East Coast, it's like 20. Yeah, you're right, 20, based on the math. But look up Rhode Island. There are people who own ranches in Montana that are bigger than Rhode Island. Right. Easily.

It's hard to undo what's been done. That's the problem. That's our problem. How big is Rhode Island? Rhode Island, what? Okay, let That's the problem. That's all the problem. How big is Rhode Island? Rhode Island. What? Okay, let me look at this here. 10 feet.

Yeah, it's a 58-foot termite. I don't know what I'm reading. What? Exactly. There's got to be something else. Give me a size, fool. All right, I'll pull this up. Thanks. Rhode Island.

Jeez, it's small. What is it? Oh, I'm just looking at it. Neither a road or an island. Yeah. Disgusting it's small. What is it? Oh, I'm just looking at it. Neither a road or an island. Yeah. Disgusting. Who do they think they are? 1,200 square miles.

48 miles by, 48 by 37. That's it. 1,214 square miles. That's a parking lot. That's a parking lot. And they get two senators. Is it way? It's, it's, the name of it is the Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations.

You see, and that's fine. Again, you say, oh, well, there's nobody in Wyoming. Why do they have,

you know, blah, blah, blah. And why can they be a part of a thing that stops us from achieving one thing or another? The only people,

the only people who talk like that are these crazy statists that want to do things that are just not in the mandate, not in the charter for the federal government. That's just it. It doesn't matter how much farmland there is over the heart of America.

Los Angeles and California, do whatever the hell you want. Is there like a per capita? Maybe we could do our representatives more based on per capita than total population because when you have 1,000 people all stacked on top of each other, it's not really as cool as 1,000 people over a 60-square-mile radius. What do you mean? That's what we do with representatives. Yeah.

Per capita? Yes. So you get a rep for every 750,000 people you're talking about. But I'm saying that maybe the size of the area where those 750,000 people live should be taken into account when calculating the amount of representatives. So it's like a bigger space of 700,000 people

is a little bit more inclusive than a small space with 700,000 people. Those people are more manipulable. They have more groupthink. I guess. I think the issue is... If the power goes out, for instance. Like Rhode Island is a single city, basically.

I say essentially, but there's more than just Providence, but it's still like you look at New York and how different it is from New York City up to upstate and all the other cities in the rural areas. You look at Rhode Island, it's just like – To be honest, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's district, I think it's like the 17th or the 14th. I think I'm the 17th. The 14th, I got my own problems. But the 14th, there's close to 750,000 people there. Now, the Constitution, again, we're talking about that a lot tonight, 30,000, one representative per 30,000. There should be, I mean, you do the distribution.

There should be 20 reps in her district. I'm sorry, 25, about 25 reps coming from her district. Yeah. I mean, think about the absurdity of thinking that she, that pea brain, represents the interest of over 700,000 people. And I'll tell you something else. In that district, I mean, in that clump of that population right there, it's not going to be all Democrat. If every republican in her district voted the republican would win dude imagine if i

had to represent you guys if i had to go somewhere and represent tim shamus and you like i i can't what would i say like yeah well i think that frank thinks this and tim thinks this and like i can't represent someone else. I can't do it. I can only represent myself. In the general election, AOC got 152,661 votes. The Republican, the R-conservative party got 58,440. And then the right and Republican, zero.

Amazing. He didn't even vote for himself? Like, he hasn't not. Gee, what a joke. Out of 700,000 people, 25% are Republican. It's a D plus 25. So that means you would have, what does that give you? 210,000 Republicans.

If every single Republican in AOC's district voted, it would have defeated AOC. But they don't vote at all. And the Republicans won't go in and even bother with trying to get people to vote. Because they're getting paid, baby. They've got to make some money for the real issue. I should stop and say, it's not fair to say it's 25% Republican.

Because it's probably like 18 or 19% Republican, and then you've got other political parties in there as well. It shouldn't be a career, man. I'm just so fed up with career politicians that it's even thought of that that's a career opportunity or option. It's insane. No salaries. Yeah, no salaries.

But then only rich people could do it. No salaries, but you are allowed to do insider trading. You could pay the bills of the people, like all the travel, all the lodging. Only rich people would do it then. No, no. Oh, because you've got to pay for their time off work? Because people have to leave work to go do it, so we compensate them. And then these are the tough challenges.

I think it's really simple, Frank. I think what we do is as soon as you get elected, no matter which – so you're in Congress, you get four years guaranteed. You're in the Senate, you get six years guaranteed. The president, let's say you get two terms. I'm down for one term of six years with the president. All right, I'll say that. Once you're done, you get shipped off to the island, never to be seen again. There's no technology.

There's no electricity. A helicopter flies over, and they just push you out of the parachute. And that's it. Like in Chile. Thank you for serving. No, no, you have a parachute. Oh, okay. The point is, go live on the island.

Follow what Greenland. You get forced to go live in Greenland. You can't live here anymore. Then the only people... No, it still wouldn't work. I know it's a funny joke. But then what would happen is rich people would be like, if you do it, I will give your family $5 million.

And they'll be like, I'll do anything for my family. And then they do what they're told and they get ejected. It's like an episode of Blacklist blacklist demarchy is an interesting idea demarchy is where people get congress duty so it's like you go to the mailbox and you got like a certified letter and it's like or the mail person comes up i have a certified letter can you sign for it you sign for it it's like congress and you go oh oh i gotta go to dc only i have congress duty i guess and then you go down and then there's an adversarial attempt. Two politicians will then be like, how do you feel about this? How do you feel about that?

And they're like, okay, we agree with this guy. And then you get approved for Congress duty, and you serve for a few months in D.C. And they're like, here are the bills we're passing. Here are the bills we're writing. That's Denmark-y. Okay. Here's the thing, though, Tim. So I think you'd get – Like you do now. Exactly. There's no elections. okay here's the thing so like

so I think you'd get like you do now exactly and then when you come home your neighbors are going to be looking at you like what did you do so here's why I don't think

we should do something like that because people are going to be going in there completely disinterested not wanting to be there making stupid decisions as a result I mean we can only have that for jury duty

when you're deciding whether or not someone committed a murder and whether they're going to go to jail for the rest of their lives. Not for anything else. A jury? No, I mean, I'm making fun of the whole idea. With jury duty, the fact that jury duty is something people don't want to do. I remember my dad telling this story. He got selected for jury duty back in the 80s and

one of the people he this guy was like look i have a business to run i don't want to do this so he wore an american flag tie he's like there's no way they're going to pick me to be on this and they didn't because he had an american flag time really yeah yeah it's like a bias thing it's like oh this guy's conservative um there was another lady it was they're asking him questions and there's this old lady they know nothing about the case at this point or what case they're being selected for and they ask her do you believe in the death penalty and she goes yes and i think he should get it so they're like you can leave man they're like yeah across the board yeah across whoever it is they deserve it and then it's like

ma'am do you know who the defendant is no and then they look over it's like, ma'am, do you know who the defendant is? No. And then they look over, it's like an identical little old lady. Frank, I thought you were right on the president six years and then he's out or she's out because the whole wasting two years running for reelection insanity. It's insane. I mean, I think about what we got from what we got out of the Trump first term there. So much of it was, obviously he was learning the ropes, and he was learning just how bad it was around him, including his own staff. He was surrounded by sharks. But let's say that he had everything together. Too many people play it timid in that first term because they just want to get to the second one

and then maybe let their hair down a little bit. I'd rather just see who a person is, let them get to work, let them fight their battles, and go for it. I'm going to be against 90% of the things that they propose anyway, but I would much rather stop with the pussyfooting. What if we just did this? Here's an idea. What if we had a group of individuals who really believed in this country, and it was a private organization that you could enter in by swearing an oath to it?

And then they would just choose among their ranks who the chairman should be, who will rule the country. And it would be like a political party. And then they can have their ideology as like the name of their party of the country. So like, you know, and then you have to swear allegiance. And then you know what else they can do? They can put that party in every corporation as the answer to them. And that ensures loyalty to the centralized government. I mean, it would build community.

That's right. Community, build community. And we could call it like a community. Communityism. Oh, community. It's too long. How about communism? Communism. We, community. It's too long. How about communism? Communism.

We can call it communism. How about we can call it Freemasonry as well? Oh, yeah. Communism. Oh, yeah. Yes, yes. But people don't understand communism, so we should just simplify the vernacular by saying com-

No, no, no. Here's how. We'll do a little slogan so people feel like they're like you, like com-unism instead of communism. We. Our party. you, like communism instead of communism. We, our party. That's right. Ours. When they select the senators, is that like a little communist dictatorship?

I think the states should select the senators. I think the 17th Amendment is a mistake. I remember reading something from Ben Sasse about that, and I was like, what? And then I read it, and I was like, he's right. People don't care about their state elections anymore because everything's federal. And then you get these politicians who are like, I'm running for Congress. And if you vote for me,

I'll clean up this town. And it's like, bro, state level politicians clean up the town. You go to DC. You go to DC and talk about bombing kids. The people we got to vote for here to clean up the city are the people who are going

to represent the city. But people don't get that anymore. So the way it used to be, you'd vote for your state representative. Then they would go and vote on who would represent the state to the federal government. That made sense.

Then they were like, eh, we'll just do popular vote. And now it's a bunch of idiots voting for a bunch of other idiots. Right, because their representatives would send their buddies to the Senate, and then their buddies in the Senate would do them a favor when they proposed a law and passed their law. And it's no better now. So the amendment didn't fix any of the corruption problems. They were like, let's just have the people of the state choose. The problem is the popularity contest and that they don't have term limits

because you shouldn't be able to vote a popular senator back. Yeah, it should be something like that. Even four, there's so many of us now that want to participate that giving someone six freaking years, you're going to be in your 30s by the time. But that's the best part, Ian. If you really want to participate, what you can do, I mean, it could be flipped like a switch at this point because it's on the books.

I mean, we've gone through at least 120 years of really bad habits being instilled as American tradition at this point. But if you really wanted to get involved locally, if you got onto your local city council, your town council, you want to become mayor, you become sheriff, you can turn things around in your

state so much quicker than you can ever try to even, we shouldn't even be paying attention to the federal government. If we all refocus on local elections and what they're doing, what people are proposing, and really hammer down on that, people have never been this activated and awake to what's going on. If it can just be refocused locally, this whole thing could fall apart and it would literally be like defeating Freddy Krueger. You just say, I don't believe in you. I mean, it's all illegitimate. It's all illegitimate. I think, as I often talk about civil war and conflict, I think that may end up happening. But I do think that we are still winning.

And I'll break that down for you what that means. People are waking up, more and more people every single day. Decentralized information is winning. The ratings are collapsing for the mainstream networks. They're losing trust. Channels like ours are doing better and better, and other networks are growing. People are using decentralized sources of information. We are winning.

But there is an effective internal Thucydides trap that will occur then. When the growing culture is seeking to supplant the existing one, then you will likely end up with some kind of conflict. So we have a culture war right now. You have the establishment, which is completely in line with woke corporations and the woke activists in Antifa. But it feels like they're losing. They're becoming increasingly unhinged because of it, like firebombing pregnancy centers because they lost Roe v. Wade. The freedom, the libertarian, the decentralized, the Roe v. Wade decision was ultimately a libertarian movement. The federal government saying, we hereby rescind our authority over the states on this matter. And that is a movement towards decentralization. The left wanted the federal government to assert its authority to grant them what they wanted nationwide.

So ultimately, I think freedom and liberty are going to start winning. Power is being rescinded, but the establishment is losing power, but they're going to thrash and get violent before the end comes. I was thinking, like, what would the founding fathers, like, what would Jefferson and Ben Franklin do right now if they came here? And I was like, guys, what do we do? Or George Washington, they'd be like, dude, the corporations are way too powerful. I think we need to... I think they'd shoot themselves in the head,

put themselves out of their misery. No, they'd be excited. They'd be like, dude, you've got electricity still. We need to attach large cylindrical magnets to the bodies of the founding fathers' corpses because they're spinning in their graves so fast it would generate tons of free energy. I think Ben Franklin would be into that. I think that a lot more people than we think would come to a rallying call.

If we had George Washington come back like the mensch that he was and he was just like, yo, we've got things to do, I think that a lot more people would rally to that call than we think. But they would also face real danger. First of all, they would be reincarnated slave owners. So people would be like, finally, we have one. They're not just chasing ghosts anymore. The founding fathers would come back and be like, I don't like any of this.

And they would think everyone was crazy. Yeah, too much corporations in the federal government. We've got to unwind the corporate power. When did corporations become people? Well, that was, was that Glass, not Glass, Stegall? No, it was Mitt Romney. He declared it. He said, corporations are people, my friend.

And then instantly, corporations were. Corporate law is a little nuts. Dude, but speaking of, well, there's a 101-year-old ex-Nazi that was sentenced to five years in prison for being a prison guard. So life. 101 years old. All right, well, there's a 101-year-old ex-Nazi that was sentenced to five years in prison for being a prison guard. It's all life. 101 years old and they live life. All right. Well, let's go to Super Chats.

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It's going to be a lot of fun. And don't forget to smash that like button. We're going to have a members-only show coming up for you at 11 p.m. at TimCast.com. Check it out. Let's read what we got. No Quisada says, Tim, I wouldn't consider the far left to be pro-gun. AOC and the squad are pretty anti-gun.

But they're like, they're leftist and somewhat far left, but the actual socialists they have like the socialist rifle association. Socialists and like the real revolutionary far left are pro-gun until they gain control and then they want to take your guns away. Right? So it's not the same as how we are pro-gun until they gain control and then they want to take your guns away right so it's not the same as how we're pro-gun we're like people

should be allowed right all right what is this meta texas tim pool wakes up to a big bowl of civil war o's oh civil war oh like cheerios how have you ever just how often have you discussed how you see that even playing out? I don't know, 800 times. Okay. Because I talk about it as well, too. It would never be anything like what we did before. I mean, we should be pretty familiar with the scenario because these are the kind of conflicts that the CIA used to drum up in Africa and Middle East. Operation Gladio type of stuff.

But what do you think is most, this is how it would play out? Oh, I don't know. I think there's a whole bunch of different scenarios. One of them is, we're already seeing it, states announcing they do not recognize the authority of the federal government. So we have immigration laws. California says we don't care. It's not outright nullification

it is you know sanctuary states nullification would be California saying we will oppose the federal government trying to enforce these things right now they're just kind of saying we won't assist you but we will actively as a state allow the defiance of federal law

so we're halfway there that happens enough times Texas says, we do not see California's votes as legitimate because they're allowing non-citizens into the country who then affect Congress and the electoral vote count. So when that happens,

then what do you do? I don't know. I would tell you. I don't know. I speculate on it a lot. And I think just because we're in the U.S., I mean, Waco, Ruby Ridge, that would be pretty much what we'd be looking at. Central Power doesn't care about killing anybody.

All right, let's read some more. We got Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim, I had an aunt who had Down syndrome. She was a beautiful soul. She was kind, always full of smiles. She was the glue of my mother's side. These people want her to have never felt love or give freely her love, her own love to us. They are so much more than I've ever imagined Rip and Judy. And this is a reference to, I was doing a segment earlier about the Democrats funding the quote-unquote far right.

And I read a story about Anna Navarro saying, I know exactly why we need abortion because I have a 57-year-old brother who's got the mentality of a one-year-old. And I've got a family member who's got Down syndrome. And I had another family member and I was just like, so you're basically saying to kill these people. And here's the point I made. Without getting into great detail, some people that I've known since I was very young were going to get married.

And then the guy's fiance got into a car accident and got a traumatic brain injury and then was paralyzed. Partially paralyzed, traumatic brain injury, unable to live without assistance. If you were to come to me and say, this person was born developmentally disabled, so we should have aborted them.

My question is, what would you say to someone who was 20 years old and gets smacked in the head with a baseball bat and now is in a wheelchair? Should they be killed on the spot? Should they not be alive? It's a psychotic argument. And it's exactly why I'm sick to my stomach because people like Anna Navarro saying this, she's not saying anything, anything meaningful. She's saying,

I will say whatever it takes to support the pro-choice side or the pro-abortion side. And then I'm like, look, I'm, I'm even, you know, old school pro-choice. But if you come as a Democrat and say my, they're talking about how their Down syndrome relative, people who live full, meaningful lives and have families and love should never have been allowed to have been alive. I'm like, you're a psychopath. You're a fascist. You're a nut job. Ultimately, I mean, to have that kind of mentality, you really do need to view human beings as things. They're not their own individual person who matters as an end in and of themselves they're a thing and that thing makes me feel uncomfortable so we should just get rid of it or it shouldn't even have been there in the first place i just i just

i just can't believe that more than once and navarro on cnn came out and said i have disabled family members therefore we should have abortion to kill them i know it hearkens to when we were living in tribes in desperation when like a sick person would hold the tribe back and maybe cost it its lives. If you can't move, if you can't hunt because somebody has a gimpy leg, then you've got to do something with that hunter that can't hunt anymore.

And a lot of times they would just kill them off. No, they wouldn't. Oh, back in the day, if you had a deformed child, they would kill it immediately. Humans are social beings who survive because we take care of those who are injured. That's a fact. I'm not just talking about injury. I'm talking about Spartans.

There were certainly some cultures, like the Spartans, they would put the babies in the woods or whatever. But on average, humanity survived by taking care of each other. That's why we are socially driven beings. Because a human who was left out to their own devices tended to die.

And the humans who tended to be social and stay within the tribe tended to live because we protected each other. The concept of insurance emerged because when we started building our own dwellings, if mine fell down, everyone else would come and help me rebuild it. It was just a pact. We wouldn't just be like, oh, you lost your house. Now you're dead. You're a drag on the society. No, we helped them. When someone's leg was broken, we made sure they survived. That's reality. I would say with this, I know you're really focusing on the horror of what Anna Navarro has said more than once now. And if you want a little bit more perspective as to the mindset from which this was born, have you covered at all what's going on with the euthanasia programs in Canada?

No. This is incredible. I think it's called the MAID program or something, M-A-I-D something. But the euthanasia programs in Canada, the assisted suicide programs, they continue to expand to the point where they're making it available and they're starting to suggest this for people who aren't even terminally ill, people who are in dire financial straits, quality of life when it comes to anxiety, anything like that. And it's that bad and worse. So you go check that out.

And when I'm reading this and covering it as these articles come out from time to time, I say to myself, of course they're so flippant about human life here in the United States for the unborn. Out of sight, out of mind. If they're doing this with people who have been on the earth for decades already, a child that they have never seen before means nothing to them. I should reiterate. I'm not talking about someone that loses a leg and that you're like, you would to them. I should reiterate, I'm not talking about someone that loses a leg and that you're like, you would help them, but if a baby's born with no limbs

and you only have a certain amount of food in the tribe to go around and everyone works to help the tribe survive, but this one can't, then they would make harsh, necessary choices about who to feed. That depends very much, too, on the tribe and the civilization. That's a huge blanket statement to make about early humans we live

in a place of luxury healthy people and put them on an altar and like lop their heads off and like and we live in a in a society of luxury where we still kill people who we have determined to be inconvenient and there have been societies much poorer than ours who cared for those even when they were difficult yeah because of our luxury we really don't need to kill them as much. Well, that's because the poor society... No one does. Which is why it's even worse

when Anna Navarro is like, these people shouldn't be alive. Well, let's read some more Super Chat. Sorry, we'll move on. We got... Ander Webb says, heads up,

the California AG just leaked the addresses of every registered firearm owner in the state. What? Wow. John... Josh Froman says, you absolutely are allowed to brew your own wine. You can make wine every registered firearm owner in the state. What? Wow. Josh Froman says,

you absolutely are allowed to brew your own wine. You can make wine of almost anything. It's a fun hobby and lots of people enjoy. However, you can't make your own whiskey. And so I'm actually really bitter about that, which is why I don't want to see people happy making their own wine. That's why I wanted to stop, Tim. Wine, wine.

We have wine berries. So cool. So they're like raspberries. But they're a little harder, you know, than like raspberries are kind of mushy and soft and break apart. These ones are a little stronger. I bet they'd be really good dried, like dehydrated wine berries. Oh, yeah. Super good.

Well, they're starting to blossom. I was walking down the driveway and I grabbed a couple. Pop them right in your mouth. The funny thing is there are these little bugs that sometimes live in them. Oh, great. And they're like, they're actually really, they're like yellow and they're actually really cute. And they have little is there are these little bugs that sometimes live in them. They're actually really yellow and they're actually really cute. They have little arms and they start waving at you and you eat them.

Wow! Until they get into your brain. It's actually controlled by the bugs. That's why he wears the beanie so you can't see. There's a bunch of them. But you get a little extra protein in your wine berry. We need to get those long arm things. Oh, we found a turtle yesterday.

Nice. Yeah, a little box turtle. But you can't keep them as pets. They don't survive well. So we just had to... He was under one of the skate ramps, almost got crushed. I was worried.

So we took him out and we put him in the woods. There was a bigger one, apparently. They're everywhere. We got turtles everywhere. Chinese box turtles? I have no idea. Probably.

Uh-oh. We got Chinese think bugs everywhere. Yeah. Those things are awful. You seen them? Special thanks to idea. Uh-oh. We got Chinese stink bugs everywhere. Yeah. Those things are awful. You seen them? Special thanks to China. You got them, Frank, in New York? We do have stink bugs in New York.

I don't know if they're Chinese, though. It's that brown marmaladed one. Yeah. You'll know them after seeing them. And they're everywhere. It's like it's a plague. It's an invasive species. They came in the 90s into Pennsylvania.

They arrived. I think they were planted there by something. Did you guys have any of that weird infestation that came through us? The spotted things? The spotted fly. Those are weird. Yep. It's fun to go out and smoosh them because they're like, you got to kill them.

They're invading. All right. Let's see what we got here. Let's see. Super Arrow says, I'm a home brewer from Ohio. Ever since you first mentioned the wine berries, I thought it would be interesting to make wine from them. Maybe we could make a Tim Kass special wine and do a segment on it.

Here's a funny thing. You're driving down the road, western Maryland or whatever, West Virginia. I watch people pull their car onto the shoulder and grab a handful of wine berries and get back in their car. No joke. Because they're literally everywhere. You turn out on the highway

out here and you can fill up probably like a 10-gallon bag in a few minutes. I'm exaggerating, but maybe like a half an hour, you're going to fill up a huge bag. Have you ever been to Acadia Park in Maine? Oh, it's beautiful. And the blueberries everywhere. Oh, wow. People get out on the side of the mountain,

and they're just bags of blueberries. We got Pawpaw in September, October, too. You know pawpaw? Yes. Yeah. I thought there was going to be very, very little because we couldn't see any. And then I was mistaken because then end of September, you walk into the woods, and you're getting hit in the head by them as they fall. And it's like, take five minutes, and you've got like 50 pawpaw.

And I'm like, I don't even know what we're going to do with it. It's delicious, by the way. Ian made a bread. Yeah, it's good. All right. Incompetent Hands 30 says, huge fan of Quite Frankly and Timcast. This is awesome. Tim, did you ever get a haircut from a Russian at the Palisade Center?

You bet. If so, did you feel cursed asking for a friend? I have no idea what that means. What is that? Okay, when I was going, when I went to the, I went to the Palisades Mall when I was 15 years old. We all went to Supercuts. And I'm getting my hair cut, and the guy, this Russian guy is on top of me, and he's going, oh, you know, you're losing your hair a little bit or something.

I said, no, I'm not. I'm not losing my hair. What, are you kidding me? And so he's telling me, and I guess he must have seen something. And I started getting a little bit agitated because I just wanted a haircut and be left alone. And he said, what, you can't have everything? And he starts like, I don't know, he's trying to be very flippant about it. So now I get tormented about the Russians.

I just shaved my head now. It doesn't matter. I got a theory about that. They say it's genetic, passed down from the grandma, male pattern baldness. I think it's the temperature of the shower that you are taught as a kid is the normal temperature. And if it's too hot, it singes the follicles.

I just think that's not true. Well, if the water's too hot, it'll strip the oil out and it can damage. Your idea of hot could be different than my idea of hot. I take lukewarm. I have a higher than normal body temperature. Did Elon Musk get hair implants? hot could be different than my idea of hot because of the way they're arranged. I take lukewarm, like, yeah. I have a higher than normal body temperature.

Dude, did Elon Musk get hair implants because he has a full, luscious head of hair now? Also, my grandfather had a full head of hair his whole life.

Skips generations. Well, it doesn't matter to me. My grandfather had no hair. That means it should skip and boom. It's meaning. It's all nonsense. They say it comes

from the mother's side, right? Hot showers, man. That's just not true. It's my nonsense. Don't they say it comes from the mother's side, right? Hot showers, man. That's just not true. It's my theory. It's my working hypothesis. But it may be due to a high-fat diet. That causes it to fall out? So I was reading in Japan

before the Americans came in and introduced a high-fat diet, they didn't have male pattern baldness and now they do. Huh. Yeah. But let's read some more Super Chats because we got a good one.

Indeed. Kentucky says, that's not Ian Crossland, that's Chicken Ian. Show us your rock collection. Huh. Yeah. But let's read some more Super Chats because we got a good one. Indeed. Kentucky says, that's not Ian Crossland, that's Chicken Ian. Show us your rock collection. Kentucky. If you go over to ChickenCityLive.com, there is a new cartoon up.

We asked an artificial intelligence to write a story about Ian, chickens, and the Federal Reserve and it wrote us the synopsis of a story so we animated it and it's actually really, really funny. So ChickenCityLive.com, it just brings you to the YouTube channel and then you we animated it, and it's actually really, really funny. So, chickencitylive.com,

it just brings you to the YouTube channel, and then you can see the video, and it's really funny. Ian is a chicken, and he's going to school, and he gets bullied. Someone's listening. Yeah.

It was a funny bit. It was pretty funny, yeah. I remember I typed in the AI. I was like, tell me a story about these things, and then when it popped up, I started laughing, and I sent it to Kent, our animator,

and then I was like, dude, we should turn this into a cartoon brilliant yeah all right let's see we got bc says tim great to see frank on the show you should get matt christiansen and blonde next absolutely they are both welcome at any time always welcome yeah we should reach out and see if they're ever available to come on they They do their own show. Matt's a good buddy of mine, too. He's up in the middle of nowhere, though, isn't he? I did their show a number of times

years ago, and then it just fell off. They're great, though. They're great. They were early adopters of mine. I've known them for a decade. Cody Bridger says, I'm a winemaker who has practiced around the world, and I'm currently in Washington. I would love to help you with wineberry wine.

I'll talk to the currency if anyone's interested in how you actually do that. What do you do? Just mash them up, put them in a cask and forget about it? Is that how it works? Forget about it. Forget about it. And then come back later and you're like, hey, that's alcohol. The only thing you do is forget about it. All right. Coius Veritas says, hey Tim,

I work for a brewery And in the past week we have seen grain prices go up 45% Beer shortages may be on the horizon And if you think people are mad when there is no food to eat Just wait until there's no beer Yo, we do these shipments every quarter or so Where we get like hundreds of cans of beer We're about overdue because people love it

We get like local brewery stuff Well since I've been here it hasn't been enough No matter how much they order We're out, aren't we? We need to get more I think we are Wey stuff. Well, since I've been here, it hasn't been enough, no matter how much they order. We're out, aren't we? We need to get more. I think we are. We've been out for a while. We've been out for a while. Yeah, and Seamus, he's fighting the habit, so he didn't tell us. But the price has been going up ridiculously.

I believe it. I guess I hadn't noticed because you were buying it. No, but that's... I believe it. I mean, all food's going to get more expensive. Can you make beer from walnut trees? Pawpaws? I don't know. Walnut trees.

Pawpaw beer? I feel like you can make this out of everything. I've heard people making really weird concoctions. As long as you can ferment it somehow. You can eat dandelions. I learned that from Ian. And then I started looking up in Appalachia, dandelions are like a common thing. Wait, the actual flower?

The actual flower. When it's yellow, you take the head off and you fry it and you eat it. And it supposedly tastes like mushrooms. Oh. See, I... Okay. Well, we... Dandelions were brought here by the pilgrims for medicinal uses.

And now there are weed everywhere. My grandparents used to send me and my brother out into the driveway to pick the dandelion leaves to make salads. Really? Yeah, as a depression measure. You eat the heads, though. I didn't know about the flowers. The actual leaves, though, man, they're a little bit bitter, but you toss them into a salad bowl, a little bit

of vinegar, a little bit of oil, and you're good to go. I got dandelion tea, because Ian mentioned it. It's the best he's ever had. No joke. Detox. It's like a vanilla dandelion tea. Yeah, it was amazing. Oh, it's so good. It's the best tea I've ever had. No joke. Detox. It's like a vanilla dandelion tea. Yeah. Wow, it's so good. Yeah, it was amazing.

All right, let's grab some more Super Chats. Miguel Lopez says, thanks for having Frank on your podcast. A lot of my favorite peeps crossing over. It confirms I'm listening to the best of minds on the net. You know it. All right, let's grab some more. We got a bunch of angry people insulting me, insulting me. Yes.

Nate says, does anyone remember the old Bible man show because tim describing that episode in the orville makes me think of it they went too woke and now they're slow slowly going broke yeah the orville used to have jokes in it the new season has no jokes in it it's weird that is weird i feel like seth mcfarland just wanted to be captain picard yeah 100 and so they're like the only way he could do it is if they were like, if you do a comedy, and he was like, alright, we'll put jokes in it. And now that he's got a new deal on Hulu, it's called New Horizons, and there's

no jokes, and it's just really dry. I'm like, it doesn't work, you guys. I tried to watch Kimmel the other night. It was Chelsea Handler as the weekly host, and it was just, oh, Democrat. She immediately started talking about politics. Like, within like ten words, it was politics. I'm like, what is this even?

The most important things that she's done in the last 10 years, she didn't even know that it was good. She had this guy on from the Department of Energy right around the time that Stranger Things came out, around 2018, whatever it was, and he was talking about, he made it a mission that they dabble in other parallel universes and stuff and of course she made some whoa trippy lsd comment about it like that this is a gold

mine ask him real questions it's the best thing she ever did now she just slurs the rest of the way all right phil nye says longtime girlfriend just got her tubes tied due to the roe v wade decision so now i'm single she's in a cult and everyone seems blind to it. I'm sorry to hear that, man, but good for you for getting out of that. It's like IUDs exist. Terrible. You know? Whatever, man. All right.

Let's see what we got. David Toronto says, the protest didn't work. They overturned Roe v. Wade. They overturned the guns. They overturned the coach praying. That's right. What a fascist country where a coach is allowed to pray. The craziest thing is how they lie about the main rulinged the coach praying that's right yeah what a fashion and here's what i'm saying where a coach is allowed to pray the craziest thing is how they lie about the main

ruling and the coach ruling i'm seeing memes pop up on facebook where they're like the supreme court has just ruled that uh school officials can lead children in prayer now it's time to bring in the satanism blah blah i'm like no they didn't they ruled that a single person minding their own business can pray while they're at work. I don't understand. How is that ever not possible anyway? Dude said he wanted to pray at the 50-yard line or something. They said, hey, you can't do that.

He said, okay, I'll stop praying. He said, no, you're fired anyway. And then he went, okay, well, I'm suing you. The dude actually was like, I will stop doing this, but they fired him anyway. The court said, you can't tell someone not to pray. That's insane. Especially since he wasn't leading children in the prayer. was just personally but because he was on the 50 yard line it was like a public display it was after the game yeah his mistake you know if he'd led children

through a transition or something right like that would be completely fine groomed them in some way that would be fine but praying oh my goodness heavens forbid is an important one my hill says when will tim get to do the bill gates voice on a Freedom Tune? Oh my gosh, that's a good question. We wrote one that would never be allowed on YouTube. I should say, you pitched an idea to me that would never ever be allowed on YouTube. Did I? Yeah, the one where he's got the app on his phone. Oh yeah, that was so good.

Maybe we'll make that for the Freedom Tunes behind the paywall thing. Should we just tell the joke? No, because you'll get booted off. They'll never allow it. I don't even think we can say it. Really? I don't even think we can say it. No, no.

I really don't. I think they would nuke this thing. It's really good, too. It's pretty funny. It would be a really great skit. It's like three minutes long. We'll make it. You and I will make it.

Don't they nuke you for activity off platform, too? Not really. No, there's Patreon that did that no but the gag is basically about bill gates it's about uh cell cell phones it's about cell technology it's about vaccines he's using baa well people are going to freedom tunes.com and signing up right now yeah yeah go over to freedom tunes.com become a member we can record it afterwards and just do it yeah yeah we should work on it it's a a good bit. It is a really good bit. It is really, yeah, it's good.

Rule of threes. All right. Well, now you spoiled it by telling them the rule of threes is involved. Okay, okay. A couple more times. Decide Thought says, I saw that Orville episode. I think of it backwards. It wasn't about Trump winning, but about the deceptive, destructive, and divisive nature of the Democrats and how they intentionally make peace seem evil maybe but it was like the moderate candidate who was supposed to win lost because of influence

campaigns and then the polling was showing that this might was going to win and then when the populist wins literally executes the moderate like you watch them do it like what have you done and then she's like now i will kill all of you. It's like, okay. They went, make our planet great again. The planet is a religious, zealous planet. That worship is their deity, Avis. They have their own Bible. And they're like, we are the pure and we are the chosen people.

So we can't allow these other societies in. Krill first. And it's like, okay. Make Avis great again. I was like, I was a little on the nose. No, I and it's like again make avis great again i was like i was a little on the note no i think it's yeah the female who was leading the uh her name is talia and she talks like this i am the greatest i am the greatest krill i will say this not a big fan of i've only seen a few episodes but for all of its flaws it is much more similar to star trek than anything being produced i know the name of Star Trek right now.

It's funny and sad. Alright. What do we got yet? The Bros Durham says the Seven Cities area in Virginia is bigger than Rhode Island. That's right. Alexander Nelson says, here is how we take care of congressional salaries.

They make the median wage of the state district they're representing. This will cause politicians to actually have those they represent best interest in mind. I don't like that. I disagree. I think it'll mean only rich people run. Are the median? How can you afford a residence in D.C.? There's members of Congress who sleep in their offices on the floor.

And then they get yelled at because you're not allowed to do it. Because they can't afford to pay rent in their hometown and in D.C. Because D.C. is insanely expensive. Yep. So it don't work. That's why they're all rich, because only rich people can do it. Then they should make a dorm, a dormitory for, yeah, a congressional dormitory. Oh, yeah.

A. Murray has a very, very interesting argument. It's very, very complicated. It says, Government doesn't and never will work. Oh. Solid. Compelling. Nailed it.

Compelling argument. It's concise. Sever Slate says, Service guarantees citizenship. I like that idea. I like that. All right. Where are we at?

The other Nat Fife says, instead of term limits, how about a website that has every bill voted on, a pre-sys of the bill, and a list of how each rep or senator voted with the option for the congressman to comment on their vote. That exists. It's a, what is it, Bill Tracker? And I think On The Issues too or JustTheIssues.com. And it pulls up the bill and it shows you all of the votes, green and red, yes and no.

And then you can see it's good. All right. Mail? Is it Mile? Francis says, Seamus is so cute, he gives me hope that I'll meet a nice guy my age who agrees with my values.

I'd ask him out, but I am on the West Coast and can't wait to leave. Love the Freedom Tunes website. God bless. That's very sweet. I really hope you find somebody. We'll pray for you. Discern God's will, say your prayers, and he'll show you. Cooper Herstein says, Why is nobody talking about social media companies doing zero misinformation policing about Roe being overturned?

Because we all know there's a double standard and these corporations are evil. So they don't care about what's true. They care about what's morally correct. People are unironically saying, there was a tweet I saw that had 250,000 likes and it said that this is going to make it illegal to have a miscarried baby removed.

Right, right, right. It's like that is not true anywhere. Also, it's like, what do people think America was like before 1973? Do they think if women had miscarriages, they just died? What's wrong with them? Do you see that comic, that cartoon someone made where it's the American flag but the red stripes are pregnant women dragging their bodies, moaning? It's... You saw it?

And then the stars on the American flag are hangers. And I'm just like, is this what you think was going on in 1973? Just imagine being living in that headspace. That's the problem. These are people living in a headspace

that is just terminal. And by the way, in case anyone tries to say otherwise, I'll just put this bit of information out there. Bernard Nathanson, the founder of NARAL, admitted they literally made up every single figure they gave to the press

about back alley abortions and the death rate that resulted from them. It's all completely untrue. It's all completely untrue. It's all completely untrue. Mic drop. All right. Let's grab one more here. Heather Corrin says, might be too late for Tim and Frank, but gentlemen, taking saw palmetto

stops follicle death, but won't bring back already lost hair. You are welcome. That's silly. I have a very simple solution. It's called the beanie. You wear the beanie and then you're not bald anymore. People don't know this. Frank's wearing a baseball cap. Problem solved.

I only really wear this when I'm on air because I don't like the feeling of this the head sweating and feeling it with the cans on. People don't get it. I did a video today about the transgender skating thing

and I showed a video of about the transgender skating thing, and I showed a video of myself from when I was 16 still wearing the beanie, 17 wearing the beanie, 18 wearing the beanie. They don't understand. It's just like a thing I've always done. That's actually his hair. It's stuck to my head. I can't get it off.

It's the same thing with me, though, with this, too. I fell in love with fitted baseball caps when I was in, like, third or fourth grade. And, of course, it's stupid to get a child something that age because you grow so quickly. But around fifth, sixth grade, my mother started getting me, I wanted all of the Major League baseball hats. I got everything, even the retired ones. I went the old white socks. I wear the Brooklyn Dodgers hat a lot. I just love fitted baseball caps.

I always have. And then, you know, once college came out, it was done, and I realized that I was receding. I said, oh, whatever. I shave my head anyway, so I'm just going to keep shaving and keep wearing hats. And that's it. That being said, we're going to go

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it's facebook.com slash timcast news where we're going to be putting up a whole bunch of stuff and Frank you want to shout anything out? Yeah I would really like to personally just thank you for – I never really thought I'd ever come on this show or whatever,

but I'm so grateful for you to invite me, and I had a wonderful time meeting you guys and the whole crew. And before I shout out my channel and all that, I would like to personally invite you all. Anytime you need to go to New York for any reason, come by the studio, be part of a show. I have a very cozy studio waiting for you all to come by and be guests. But quitefrankly.tv, I go live Monday through Friday, 7 p.m. I know that Tim goes live at 8, but I can be a nice little pre-show for you.

Host of a nicely talked show, current events, hidden history, human condition, and the great beyond. On just Saturday night, while you guys were at the Minds event and on in your panels there, I was interviewing a man

who died on the Titanic in 1912. And he was reincarnated. So that was my Saturday night. You get to do fun stuff like that with me. And thank you. And also a shout out to Mike the Mailman. He listens to my show, but he's also a big fan of yours, Tim.

And he came to me once when somebody sent in a super chat about me, and he's really excited I'm going to be on. So shout out to Mike the Mailman. Can you say hi to Mike the Mailman? Hi, Mike the Mailman. There you go, Mike.

Right on. Okay. I'm Seamus Coghlan of Freedom Tunes. I saw somebody sent in a super chat saying that they missed Debates with Straw Men. Well, I've got good news for you. Two of the cartoons we got behind the paywall are Debates with Straw Men. We're making more of them. If you all want to support me in what I do,

go to freedomtunes.com, become a member. You will get an extra video every week as well as behind-the-scenes content. Thank you so much. Ian Crosland, iancrosland.net. You guys rock, man. I really appreciate your criticism and your feedback because it's some of the realest stuff out there.

Frank, dude, thanks, man. Thanks for coming and being so positive and just encouraging me to become a sheriff. Oh, you can do it. I believe it. And I would come down anytime. If I was asked back again, I would bring my daughter. She would love it. She's almost two, but she would just love the chickens.

Yeah, this place is awesome. You let me know. Beautiful, man. All right, see you later. Thanks so much for coming. And Frank, thank you all for joining us on this place is awesome. You let me know. Beautiful, man. All right, see you later. Thanks so much for coming. Frank, thank you all for joining us on this wonderful crossover episode. Hopefully we can do more of this in the future. I love having people from New York City because it's not that far away.

You guys can follow me on Minds.com and Twitter at Sour Patch Lids as well as SourPatchLids.me. And if you want to see Chicken Ian, go to ChickenCityLive.com. We just put up the new cartoon, and it's actually – I'm really impressed with it. It's one of the longer – it's like over two minutes. It's funny. It's Ian as a chicken going to school and discussing the Federal Reserve. You'll get a good laugh out of it. We'll see you all over at TimCast.com.

Thanks for hanging out. Bye, guys.