Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #564 - ITS MAGA MONTH And CNN's Ratings Are Collapsing, Its A Good Day w/Poso & Shane Cashman

Episode Date: July 2, 2022

Tim, Ian, and Lydia host Shane from Tales From The Inverted World alongside of Jack Posobiec to discuss a new poll showing how many people feel like it may eventually be necessary to take up arms agai...nst the government, AOC saying to blow up official offices, the Biden official saying that Americans will have to deal with high gas prices to save the 'liberal world order,' and the Large Hadron Collider being fired up again for the first time since Trump's election. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's MAGA month, ladies and gentlemen! It is officially MAGA month. I'm disappointed in all of those who have not changed their profile pictures to American flags. I did it first thing in the morning, and I had to yell at Jack Posobiec. Jack, what do you have to say for yourself? Yeah, so I'm sitting there, I'm doing my podcast, right? I'm up at like, crack of six in the morning. Actually, I'm up at like five, because the one-year-old,year-old had something going on, so we had to be up for him.
Starting point is 00:00:26 I'm doing my podcast. Then I'm hosting War Room Pandemic for Bannon because he was out today. I get done that, and suddenly I find out that I hate America. So you tweeted. Jack tweeted something, and then I noticed your profile picture didn't have an American flag in it.
Starting point is 00:00:42 It was like 10 a.m. or something, so I was like, oh, harumph! Conform! Conform! Get an american flag in it and it was like 10 a.m or something so i was just like oh harumph conform conform get that american flag in there so i tweeted jack hates america which i've always had it on my profile like name right it's always been there so come on all right so so is there now it's mega month it's going to be a month of uh grilling grill as often as you can uh during mega month month, we make America great again. That means it's all about building community. It's about cleaning up our neighborhoods, picking up trash. It's about shaking hands and hugging your neighbor.
Starting point is 00:01:14 It's about love. It's about freedom. It's about saying no to racism. And that means if you don't like MAGA month, you're a racist. Obviously. That's the only way to explain it. So anyone who criticizes MAGA month well they're racist it's the only way to explain it because the the core of making america great again is to embrace the love so that's what it's all about
Starting point is 00:01:34 but we got news we'll talk about news it is the friday before the fourth of july weekend so i imagine many people are probably just not watching podcasts live on Friday night as they usually don't. But we're chilling. We're going to have a good time. We've got a lot to talk about. More than one in four Americans say it may soon be necessary to take up arms against the U.S. government. So that's kind of freaky. We'll talk about that.
Starting point is 00:01:55 CNN's ratings have imploded. At the same time, Daily Wire's ratings are through the roof and they're signing more and more people. I really love saying that over and over again, that CNN Plus collapsed and Daily Wire is exploding because that's good. It's like the right thing is happening. It's a good day. How about that? So we'll talk about that. We also got Jordan Peterson's
Starting point is 00:02:16 nuclear response to Twitter saying he'd rather die than take down his tweet. He also made an interesting point. I talked about this earlier. He was talking about the fat chick on Sports Illustrated and, you know, because he was like, this is not beautiful. And then he made a point about confused kids. And then I realized something. I'm like, if you're, if, if, if orientation is not learned, but it's ingrained and then you have a little kid and you show the little kid, a trans woman, and you show the little kid, a fat woman,
Starting point is 00:02:43 and the kid says, I'm not attracted to either of these women. And then they go, oh, you must be gay. These are the kind of things that are confusing to kids because if they have an attraction towards a specific thing, they're told they're transphobic or they're fatphobic and all that stuff. It's probably confusing them. So we'll talk about all that stuff, my friends, before we get started. Head over to TimCast.com. Become a member to help support our work. As a member, you get access to our exclusive segments from this show,
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Starting point is 00:03:37 you already noticed, Jack Posobiec is here. I'm here. I'm here supporting Magamonth where not only do I have the American flag in my profile, superimposed on my face now. I've got my Turning Point USA branded t-shirt here with me. And somebody mentioned to me that I actually haven't been here since we got back. So we were in Davos, you know, where they don't celebrate MAGA Month, getting detained at the World Economic Forum. And we were working on
Starting point is 00:04:06 a whole documentary about that, which will be coming out soon. Oh, nice. Right on. We also got Shane Cashman. What's up? I'm here, and Ian's going to tattoo an American flag on my face right now. During the show. Live on air. But no, I'm really excited because we're releasing the first episode of Tales from the Inverted
Starting point is 00:04:22 World tonight. I have spent the last six months in Georgia like a giant slimy eyeball observing witches and ghosts and skeletons, just time traveling. And tonight's the first night, and we'll have a book next month. So I'm looking forward to it. That'll be on. That'll be live right after the show. Well, you know how I feel about cults.
Starting point is 00:04:42 I will not be bowing to your MAGA cult. I won't put it. I will not eat the bugs to your MAGA cult. I won't put it... You're getting tattooed next, Ian. I'm not putting the flag on my profile. I feel like it's dangling raw meat in front of a hungry lion. Ian's racist. So we're just talking about this before the show. Ian's Christian, the hoot on your head,
Starting point is 00:04:57 and now, can fly. Here's the thing. I said, if you hate MAGA month, you're racist, and then Ian admits it. I'll come out. I'll go out in front on thisonth, you're racist. And then Ian admits it. He admits he's racist. I'll come out. I'll go out in front on this one. Did you guys hear? So they're turning CERN back on. We talked about this before the show.
Starting point is 00:05:11 For Magamonth, I hear. For Magamonth, July 5th. Well, see, I was over there and I said, guys, come on. Let's kick the tires around a little bit. You drove over CERN or thereabout in the area. So we were driving. Right. At one point when we were shooting the thing, we were driving between Davos and Geneva.
Starting point is 00:05:27 So, you know, yes, we would have easily, I believe because it's so large, right, we would have driven over it at one point. So I want to know if smashing atoms together is causing the fluctuation of the vibrational background. Look, Ian, I can't tell you everything that Tanya and I did while we were in Europe. Smashing, yes, smashing. You know, I just got to say, they turned on the Large Hadron Collider right before Trump won.
Starting point is 00:05:48 It's true. But they didn't do it in 2020. They're doing it now. Donald Trump made a phone call and he was like, I need to win. Turn it on. He needs the energy.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Quantum fluctuations. And they're like charging it up. No, because it's basically like his Thanos gauntlet. It's like the Infinity Gauntlet. The best fluctuations. That's right. The greatest.
Starting point is 00:06:03 When Ian said that he's not celebrating MAGA month, the whole chat just turned to ones. Rest assured, I will be celebrating. I just won't do it
Starting point is 00:06:13 the way you want me to do it. There you go. Get used to it. One of us. One of us. All right. I'm also here, also in the corner
Starting point is 00:06:21 pushing buttons. I'm very excited for this evening. We're going to have a great night. It's going to be super low-key and chill. Thank you guys for tuning in. I don't expect many people
Starting point is 00:06:28 to, but we're glad to have you. Take a look at this story from TimCast.com. More than one in four Americans say it may soon be necessary to take up arms against the U.S. government. And actually, a plurality of strong Republicans said it. Yeah, it's kind of freaky. The poll
Starting point is 00:06:43 was released on June 30th by the University of Chicago's Institute of Politics. According to their findings, 28% of voters, including 37% who have guns in their homes, agree it may be necessary at some point soon for citizens to take up arms against the government. The funny thing is, I bet that stat stays true for like strong republicans forever like no matter what because they say it all the time so i don't know if there's actually like an increase in the number for all i know it's gone down right it felt that way watching the riots that everyone was trying to take down the government i mean like the mayor was getting baptized in fire out there out west i forget where that was like they were all uh in portland or something when he was standing outside the fire like doing oh yeah that was port Which one? In Portland or something when he was standing outside the fire doing... Oh, yeah! That was Portland, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Right? Yeah. And then he desperately tried to get back in the building like, let me in! Yeah, they got him. They got him a week after. I just thought it was funny to pull this story up as like it's MAGA month. You see, ladies and gentlemen, this is what MAGA month is all about. We got people who are losing confidence
Starting point is 00:07:41 in the government. They are scared. We need to make America great again, and we need a month to do it. So this is that month, every month from now on. So does the story – and I know I sent this to you guys when I was on my way in, but does it break down in the poll, right, left-right, party distinction, any of that kind of stuff? It's strong GOP, GOP, independent, Democrat, and strong Democrat. Okay. Now, so where do – so where are the fault lines? Do you see both
Starting point is 00:08:08 sides on the extremes? What would you see? No, but strong democrats, 71% I think say you don't need to, but they control the institutions. So they're like, don't It's their government. Independent voters one third of independent voters say yes. Seriously, one third?
Starting point is 00:08:24 One third of independent voters and that serious one third one third of independent voters and that's more than which is more than these than the total it's more than republicans republicans are like 28 or 30 or something and then strong gop is the plurality 45 percent so among strong gop 45 percent i believe it's 45 say you may have to and like 42 say you don't have to that's the only bracket where the you may have to is larger but conservatives believe it less than independent voters well thomas jefferson was pretty clear you may have to take up arms against the corrupt government like he said that blatantly just so you know everyone be as part of being american you may have to take up arms at some point if the government becomes tyrannical he was very clear about that well and this is jefferson by the way and this
Starting point is 00:09:08 is the same jefferson by the way who goes over and sees the beginnings of the french revolution and is like yeah this is great let's continue to do this without you know kind of realizing which forces exactly were being unleashed and this is why you have these huge differences between, you know, sure, both were armed uprisings against a central government, right, a monarchy. But the American Revolution's character was far different from the French Revolution character. Yeah, there was a lot of them to begin with. It wasn't just like Robespierre and Danton. They were starving too. The Americans? No, the French. The French were starving. The monarch was there on their soil with them. So that was another problem they had to face. But the Americans were very organized.
Starting point is 00:09:50 They also had a lot of outside help, being the French, which then caused the French Revolution, that caused the French to go bankrupt, which was part of why they were starving. It was when the women came out and they were hungry. I think that the French Revolution was too culty. It was too much about Robespierre. It became about his personality and how great he was and how he was going to lead well it was like savior salvation it was it was like a two-fold revolution right you actually had the period where you had the left and the right in the uh what the parliament chamber or
Starting point is 00:10:16 whatever this is where we get the the terms yeah you actually had the radical so there's a revolution and the radicals and then the moderates are like yelling at each other and then the moderates get crushed and then robespierre's like, off with their heads! And then they offed with his head. The whole thing was just kind of crazy. First they blew his jaw off. That's the story. He was in order and he was known for just talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. And then eventually they were like, I've had it.
Starting point is 00:10:35 They blew his jaw off. They laid him on a table for like three days to die. I'm pretty sure that's how the story goes. Didn't they cut his head off? After that, they might have guillotined him, yeah. Or they might have just let him bleed out. Let me find out. Robespierre turned on his buddy, the number two guy, Danton,
Starting point is 00:10:50 who then said it would have been better to have been a poor farmer than a metal in the politics of man. And that's what people, you know, it's funny because we talk about how people don't want to stand up, and it's like maybe they learned a lesson from the French Revolution. Duck and hide. The fires will rage and burn down your home and your life, but you may yet survive. Yeah, you kind of want to build something that allows for the system to change,
Starting point is 00:11:13 not so much be the leader and the speaker and feel good about yourself because everyone loves you. It's not what it's about. Yes, I mean, so here's the problem. The United States has a constitution that can be amended. Congress is dysfunctional. So here's the problem. The United States has a constitution that can be amended. Congress is dysfunctional. The left has been trying to use the Supreme Court as their way of passing laws because they can't actually get laws passed. They're not just trying, doing.
Starting point is 00:11:33 They're doing, right. For a long time. They blame minority rule saying it's not fair that these – but they don't understand California used to be very sparsely populated. So change happens. The problem is right now instead of being like, okay, we all agree to work by these rules, they're just saying like, screw it, burn it down. It's not fair. You'll see more typically like it's – I get what you're saying, right? And you see this in actually the Supreme Court ruling that just came out on the Remain in
Starting point is 00:12:03 Mexico policy, right? Where Kavanaugh, Kavanaugh, right? Caved on that. But it was sort of this, this idea that, well, that was a Trump era policy. And even though we all disagree with it, we want to keep it in place for the integrity of the system, that's that that was the you know the election um biden's in now and you know he does he have the ability as the current president to rescind an executive order and the rule that he does right so you'll see what i'm trying to say and i'm not necessarily trying to get into that issue whether or not i agree with that i'm just saying that was the thinking and so you'll see that more with conservatives saying, we want to keep the system so that everybody gets a fair shake,
Starting point is 00:12:47 even if it doesn't benefit our side, whereas the left will say, nah, man, just burn it down. Yeah, quite literally, you know, peaceful fires. It's going to get mostly peaceful out there. Mostly peaceful. It's going to get mostly peaceful out there. Yeah, man. You look at what's going on with the Roe v. Wade stuff.
Starting point is 00:13:02 You look at Bill Maher came out, and he – no, no, I'm sorry, not Bill Maher, Jon Stewart. And he said that, this is the Fox News of Supreme Courts. And then I'm just, I'm watching that. I'm like, why? Because they're like, these are the rules the country was set upon. The attitude of these people like Jon Stewart is, if enough people want it, it doesn't matter what the law is. And I'm like, that's stupid because people often want really dumb, dangerous things. So we have a process by which we come to cooperate and agree upon things. And if you can't do it, well, too bad. The problem is Congress is dysfunctional. And so people aren't getting what they want. So they're just, they prefer to burn it down. Politicians knowing that you can get votes from really dumb people are pandering to them and it's working.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Which by the way, it's, it's, it's the amazing thing on the Roe v. Wade ruling, which for 50 years stood as, see that literally was the opposite of right, quote unquote democracy, right? Because they went to the courts and said, we don't like that these Republicans are banning this thing that we want. So we want you to make it a federal, not just law, right, that would do pass through Congress, but a federal rule, essentially ruling that there's a right to this that doesn't actually, you know, appear anywhere in the Constitution, but we're going to protect it as if it does so that these states can't decide on their own how they want to run their states so it's it's this really weird kind of situation where they banned banning it right they banned banning abortion that's what roe v
Starting point is 00:14:35 wade did and so overturning it doesn't allow abortion bans it allows each state it didn't even ban it it said you can't ban it in the first trimester. In the second trimester, we'll have a conversation. That's correct. In the third, it can be banned. You ask these people, they don't even know what Roe did or what Casey did. Casey changed from a viability standard from trimester
Starting point is 00:14:58 to viability, but they don't even know why they're protesting. I was watching this one video where this woman is being interviewed like an Antifa person and she's like real Roe v. Wade or whatever. And she's like, I should be able to go down and the government should pay for my abortion. And then the person asking is like, you're in California
Starting point is 00:15:14 that's how it is. You can literally do that. And she's like, everyone should. And they're like, yes, but everyone in California can do that. You don't live in Texas. What are you protesting in California for? Most of the protests were in states where abortion will probably continue to be legal. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Overturning Roe is the most pro-choice decision because it just gave it to the states to do whatever you want. Right. Yeah. Most of the fires are happening. Increased choice. Yeah. Right. Actually, increased choice.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Right. No, they just want Republicans to abort their babies. I got mixed feelings about it because people say, like, I don't want the government involved in medical procedures. And then so the Supreme Court said, okay, no governments can be involved in this medical procedure. It's completely up. So then they're like, no. No federal government. Yeah, no federal government.
Starting point is 00:15:55 For now. And now there's 50 governments that can decide. So, like, before there was one government deciding, the union. Now there's 50. So is that better? I don't get it. The states all had laws on the books. So Roe basically said, the question with Roe and Casey is, does the baby have its own privacy rights?
Starting point is 00:16:16 And the general idea was, at viability, it does. Pre-viability, it doesn't because it's dependent. And so states were allowed to pass laws restricting or regulating abortion, and they all did. So you had 51 governments. The federal government just said, it is not up to the Congress. The Supreme Court said, we do not have authority on this. Congress will have to pass a law. We out. And now one less government was making an imposition. And the 50 states that were in some way regulating just changed the
Starting point is 00:16:45 way they were regulating so they're all still involved plus it's like it even goes down to the county and state level city level too like it's not just one government it's thousands of governments regulating all this stuff i've definitely got abortion fatigue at this point the conversation has gone on like maybe because we're on a talk show and it comes up almost every day but it's it's it's like it's because in my opinion the democrats are using it for a very serious wedge issue they're protesting i don't understand what they're protesting and and and to your point ian the fatigue what do they want what are they asking for california doesn't need anything from texas new york doesn't need anything from oklahoma
Starting point is 00:17:21 the people who live in those places, for the most part, voted for these policies and these politicians. Is it that the majority of New York is looking out for the 8% of Oklahoma that is concerned about this, or what? It just looks like two separate realities are at war. Because it comes down to just one reality thinks it's a life, and the other doesn't. And they're warring over the definition of life. Or they think it is a life, and they're willing to kill it.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Or just consider it a human sacrifice. I think you're sort of right, but I don't think the left has any real cohesive standard by what they're talking about. Look, some woman today, she posted, how is it that abortion got banned? I saw this meme on Facebook. How is it that abortion got banned before an assault rifle?
Starting point is 00:18:03 And so I just responded with, assault rifles are banned under the Hughes Amendment, 1984. I believe it's 1984. And you can get them, they're grandfathered in. You're referring to standard semi-automatic rifles. And she's responded with, I'm referring to anything that can kill a kid and leave them like a bloody mess.
Starting point is 00:18:19 And I'm like, okay, well, that's all guns. So anything that can kill a kid. Right, it could be a brick. Right, so if you've got kids believe me as a parent you are constantly in a state of just when you're around your kid you're not alright this can do this this can do that they could fall
Starting point is 00:18:37 they could do this thing they can literally turn anything in their home into that the Hughes Act is 86. Is that right? Is it 86? Firearm Owners Protection Act. Okay, right.
Starting point is 00:18:48 I was wrong. It's 86. But my point is just like if you post something incorrect and I say I understand what you're saying, let me give you the proper framing. You say, I don't care. I'm like, okay, I get it. You don't care. Like you're literally arguing nothing. Fine. Then what's the point of having a conversation with someone who's arguing nothing? I don't do it. I okay i get it you don't care like you're literally arguing nothing fine then
Starting point is 00:19:05 what's the point of any conversation with someone who's arguing nothing i don't do it i won't do it but this is the this is the this is the the rule it is the exception on the right is the rule on the left and it's the exception on the right and the rule on the left what is the exception that on the right you will encounter periodically individuals who don't actually argue for something they're tribalist but it's the exception. The actual ultra MAGA like fringe Trump diehards who believe crazy things like come March 3rd, Donald Trump will be like, OK, there's not very many of them. They're not prominent in media.
Starting point is 00:19:36 There are some politicians that have pushed closer to the fringe of that. But the mainstream conversation defined as the right for the most part is like extremely argumentative extremely nuanced like look at the show we did on the roe v wade overturned day with with seamus and austin peterson and will chamberlain we all disagreed i was listening to that show live and that was fantastic that was a fantastic episode but this is the quote-unquote right and it's, it's funny when people on Twitter are like, Tim's right, right wing. And I'm just like, I'm center left on like a lot of public policy issues. I'm just libertarian.
Starting point is 00:20:13 If that's the case, then what we call the left with Nancy Pelosi Democrats, they're not arguing for anything. They're not arguing anything. It is the rule. On the left, they will not give you an argument it's the exception some of them will on the right it is the rule you will get the argument it's the exception sometimes it's tribalism it's kind of like emotions versus logic i think a lot of people that would consider themselves leftists are driven by their emotional standards but i think i think
Starting point is 00:20:41 there's another angle to it as well that that gets the word rule itself, but in the other sense of the word rule as power, right? And so I think that for 50 years, Roe v. Wade stood as a sacred cow for the left for a very long time. It was one of the most powerful things. Think of it, right? They were able to impose by sheer force of will, right? This was the culmination of the radical 60s, the sexual revolution, obviously, that they were allowed to put past this, not just in their own states. having to go through the constitutional process itself. And it stood the test of time for 50 years. And so I think that they realize inherently, and even the folks like Pelosi and Hillary who were around at that time,
Starting point is 00:21:37 they realize that that level of power that they've had is starting to slip away. Adrian Curry chatted, Tim is super left with sprinkles of righty. That proves it. That does prove it. What are they, rainbow sprinkles? MAGA sprinkles.
Starting point is 00:21:51 MAGA sprinkles. Oh, not this. This is the funny thing. This is what the MAGA sprinkles got. People were commenting like, Tim Pool is far right. This proves it. MAGA month and all that.
Starting point is 00:22:00 It's very clearly meant to be just a silly fun thing to do that's not... You can't have fun. You can't have fun. How dare you? Fun and politics. We say that now on the show, but afterwards the ritual will commence. The rogues come out.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Yeah, it's called the Fourth of July. Yeah. Right. We're going to grill stuff. It's just... Yeah, we're going to grill stuff. There's going to be fireworks. No, I think...
Starting point is 00:22:20 We're going to blow stuff up for the holiday. A hundred percent. I think civic rituals are important. I think a functioning society, a holiday. I think civic rituals are important. I think a functioning society, a cohesive society, has civic rituals. And, you know, Fourth of July, obviously, is one of the largest ones. But it's so, you know, even the more basic ones like, you know, standing up for the national anthem at a baseball game. Or there's a drive-in movie theater I take my kids to, and and they play the national anthem and they say, hey, can everyone just get out of your car? And they don't say it, but it's like, shut up for like, it's a minute, right? But you stand up
Starting point is 00:22:53 and you do that and it is a national ritual. What should happen is that at every sporting event, a large glass holographic screen comes up with Hulk Hogan playing the electric guitar with the American flag behind him, and then fireworks start launching like crazy while we all sing the national anthem. We all ride eagles into the sunset. That's right. I want to pull up this tweet because it's Friday. We're going to have some fun.
Starting point is 00:23:16 I have this tweet from Shoe on Head. Everybody, I'm sure you know Shoe on Head. Wait, wait, wait. This tweet, it could potentially be considered violence. Now, Tim, are we good to show this? Sure, yeah. It actually is very dangerous. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez called for violence.
Starting point is 00:23:34 But we're reporting on her call for violence. And we are denouncing it. And we are absolutely denouncing it. No, no, for the sake of clarity, AOC in a video said that people should be, you know what, I'm not going to say it. No. AOC was asking people to send emails and phone calls. See, you're going to do it.
Starting point is 00:23:52 I know, because YouTube's crazy. Right. AOC, speaking in a video, was like, everybody call your reps, call their offices, send them messages and postcards, but she didn't quite say it that way. There was a phrase that is, I'm going to play it. Flood their phone line. is a phrase that is... I'm going to play it.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Flood their phone line. Flood their phone line. I'm going to play what she said. Are you guys ready? Is that what she said? I always got to fix the audio. We were playing some music. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:24:13 You ready? You ready? And we need to be really blowing up our elected officials' offices. Shoe on the head says, loud and clear, queen. It's a funny thing. Shoe is lefty. She's like left libertarian. And so many lefties got really mad that she posted this.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Why? They were like, it's out of context, obviously. Well, duh, that's a joke. It's literally a joke. We know what AOC means. AOC is saying call your local reps. Standing back and standing by. Standing back and standing by.
Starting point is 00:24:42 She's getting head Kaczynski. Come on. Here's why I bring this up. Not in any way to drag AOC. I mean, there's a lot of things to criticize her for. I just, the video clip from this show, when she went on Colbert and just made up stuff, we called AOC, what was it, AOC Paul's Chad move? Yes.
Starting point is 00:25:00 By blatantly lying on TV. Lying on live TV. Seamus was right. He was like, do you know what happened with this? No, I didn't see this. AOC went on Colbert, and he was like, what should the president do in response to Roe? And she goes, well, we're informed by history. You know, look to the Civil War.
Starting point is 00:25:16 The Confederacy had taken over the Supreme Court and were ruling in ways that was impeding Abraham Lincoln. Like Dred Scott, that ruled black people couldn't be citizens. So what did Abraham Lincoln do? He signed the Emancipation Proclamation. And when I watched that happen, I was like banging my head on the table because it's just like a hodgepodge. It's actually kind of amazing. Yeah, it's kind of Chad.
Starting point is 00:25:40 It's sort of like it reminds me of like the, you know,, the sort of like the secret president theory and some of the different things. Like, if you don't like your own version, like if you don't like reality, it's not to your liking, you just make up your own. But with this one, it was kind of just like, I'm imagining a dude sitting back and being like Abraham Lincoln, his cousin, Winston Churchill. Oh, wow. Did you know that one? Yeah. People don't know this. And John Wilkes Booth, third cousins.
Starting point is 00:26:11 It's true. They don't know that. Maybe AOC is through your letterman on Twitter. So let me – just for the sake of breaking this down because I have to do it. I know you guys may have seen the segment we did on it, but I want to talk about media. That's what we're talking about here with this story. But just to clarify, the Confederacy did not take over the Supreme Court. Maybe she means they were more sympathetic to the South.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Fine. Dred Scott was four years before Abraham Lincoln became president. So, no, the Supreme Court was not impeding him. The Confederacy had already seceded before Abraham Lincoln was even president. The Emancipation Proclamation was signed two years after he became president, six years after Dred Scott, and in no way had anything to do with Dred Scott. And by the way, in the middle of the war.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Right, right, right. And it wasn't until the end of the war and the 14th and 15th Amendment that citizenship was granted to slaves. So she just made everything up. But anyway, I digress. AOC, you need to brush up on your Juneteenth history. Seriously.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Agreed. I am not bringing up this clip of her saying you know blowing up offices or whatever to drag her i'm doing to make a point about the media right because this is what they do the fact that aoc said it and we know the intent of what she said modern media doesn't give that benefit to anyone associated with the right no at all ever. Donald Trump could come out and be like, he'll be like, did you see this video of AOC saying blowing up offices? Now we know what she meant.
Starting point is 00:27:31 We know what she meant. And then they'll say, Donald Trump pushes idea that you should, you know, blow up offices or something like that. And then they've done this to me where they were like, there are these things go around.
Starting point is 00:27:41 You and I are both on these things where they claim that we are pushing election misinformation stuff. What do we do? There's a bunch on these things where they claim that we are pushing election misinformation stuff. What do we do? There's a bunch of these studies where it's like, you know, Tim – Oh, the studies. Right, right, right. They never quite explain what it is that you said.
Starting point is 00:27:54 They just decide that you said them and then they put you on the list and they rank you. Here's what they do. Here's what they do. I'll give you an example. Shane, tell me that the sky is me that uh the sky is not green sky is not green oh shane cashman pushes idea about sky actually being green promotes the theory that sky potentially green that's right by bringing it up and saying anything about it you've pushed can you say like you promote can you say shane cashman quote the sky is dot, dot, dot, green?
Starting point is 00:28:25 They do that quote. That's the point about the word not out. I mean, come on. That's the point about what AOC said. It's technically a functional way to quote someone. You guys ready for this one? We got another clip. She went ahead and says, AOC, no.
Starting point is 00:28:42 All right. You need to listen to this. You ready? Supremacy is a fact. it's not just a fact you look at fbi statistics oh no what no white supremacy is a okay hold on yeah that's that's what they show hold on hold on those stats show it's that's it i got a legitimate question though jamie Jamie, pull up the FBI statistics. Yeah. In what actual context is she saying these things?
Starting point is 00:29:11 Because why is she telling people to pull up the FBI stats? That's interesting. I think there actually is. There is an FBI report that will come out and talking about talking about, um, white identity extremists and, or racial identity extremists or whatever the latest term is for it. And they will find all these things like somebody committed suicide, but then they'll consider that a homicide or, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:37 something is tangentially involved and they will call it a, a white terrorist attack. And they will use this to create this hugely inflated number out there, which is coming out from the FBI saying that this is the greatest threat to America today. Let me break this down. Ben and Jerry's pushed this racist idea.
Starting point is 00:30:02 The issue is the left and the right will cite the same stat in the FBI to make the opposite claims. The stat posted by Ben and Jerry's that the black population is 13% of the United States, yet incarceration rates among the black population is way higher, which is quite literally the exact same argument made by white supremacists. So when AOC comes out and says white supremacy is a fact, it sounds like, out of context, she's saying it is real. It is a true thing, like she's promoting it. She believes they're supremacists.
Starting point is 00:30:36 And then when she mentions FBI stats, what she said could be slightly altered and come right out of the mouth of a white supremacist. Oh yeah, you're right. It's the exact argument. Because they project everything. Well, because the woke identitarian left,
Starting point is 00:30:51 the critical race theorists, are outright right racists. So they look at everything and they're like, that's the only explanation. And they're making the same argument. The difference is
Starting point is 00:30:59 who they think is the racist person. AOC's argument is, oh, this proves the police are racist because these people shouldn't be in jail whereas white supremacists are like it proves bad things about black people when in reality they're looking at the same stat asserting some racialized ideology
Starting point is 00:31:13 and just making everything worse for everybody thanks aoc but there's also there's also an element of what um michael anton at claremont has written about this, and he calls it the celebration parallax, where he says if the left cites something, then we have to say, oh, it's happening, and it's good, and it's wonderful that this is happening. But if the right identifies the same pattern or trend in society, it's a conspiracy, a conspiracy and it's wrong. And it's probably racist to even talk about it. Right. So you, and you can say this about the great reset is a great example of this, right. You know, where you can, where, where they'll come out and say, or even with the thing that was going out today, the liberal world order, if you went on Twitter today and typed in liberal world order, you would think, Oh, well, it's going to play that clip of Brian Deese, who is the White House economic advisor.
Starting point is 00:32:07 When they ask him the question, why are Americans paying $4.85 a gallon going into the 4th of July weekend? He says, well, I'm paraphrasing, but we have to protect the liberal world order. And people are said, oh, well, at least he's honest, right? You know, guy that comes from BlackRock, by the way.
Starting point is 00:32:25 And if you went to Twitter and searched that earlier today, I don't know if it's still there. And so if you search it today, right now, it's still there. It's all up, yeah. That if you search it, there was a fact check that was the first thing that you saw. And it said, fact check, comments today about liberal world order are not
Starting point is 00:32:46 the same as the conspiracy theory that a new world order is being instituted by the united states government that is not up anymore now it's it goes right to the new york post article new york post probably just helped dispense with it and your stuff actually it was there at my cell i tweeted the video right you know and there was a fact because before we can even let you engage with the content that was, again, stated by the White House economic advisor regarding why your gas prices are so high. Right. They had to correctly frame it for you like a leftist meme before you can even interact with the actual content.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Let's pull the story up here. I've got it here from the New York Post. Biden advisor, liberal world order demands enduring high gas prices. I just want to point out first and foremost, they said that it was going to be a quick thing. The gas prices were going to go up. Now they're saying it's going to be years. Yeah. So, okay.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Sounds like that's just the case. They're saying until Ukraine wins, and they might not. And if Russia wins, then your gas prices are going to stay up forever. But here's the best part about this liberal world order thing. It's not a conspiracy theory anymore. Now, like you said just a moment ago, they're arguing it's not the same thing as the conspiracy theory. Yo, there was a time, not even that long ago, a couple, like, decade ago, if you said the Gulf of Tonkin incident was a false flag, that long ago a couple like decade ago if you said the the gulf of tonkin incident was a false flag you were a conspiracy theorist and i think it was the
Starting point is 00:34:09 2000s when they finally came out with reports being like actually the u.s kind of staged the whole thing so we could enter vietnam it's like okay in my lifetime i have watched the narrative break down and start crumbling and i mean kind of hilariously alex jones being proven right more and more often although he does say rather crazy and outlandish things he ends up talking about things epstein that was a conspiracy theory galene maxwell was sentenced to 20 years for aiding the trafficking with epstein powerful global elites were flying on his plane not a conspiracy theory anymore the the line on that I thought that was the best. And Ted Cruz actually posted it.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Ted Cruz meme, right? It was Ghislaine Maxwell, the first person to be convicted of trafficking children to no one. Exactly. But there was a period where if you brought that up, that there were powerful global elites trafficking children. They were like, oh, here we go. They still try and claim the idea is a conspiracy. And if you – well, I mean it was a conspiracy but a fake one like made up if you come out now but not epstein epstein no that wasn't fake that was real i'm saying they claim it's not real right oh yeah like so here's my
Starting point is 00:35:18 point epstein was conspiring with other people there was traffic. There was a period where, you know, probably only several years ago, if you claimed there was a powerful global elite with world leaders flying on planes and they were trafficking, they called you a conspiracy theorist. Then Epstein, it all comes out. Ghislaine Maxwell gets sentenced. Epstein is shuffled loose the mortal coil,
Starting point is 00:35:40 as it were. Now it's just like, oh yeah, we knew they were doing that. Now the crazy thing is, there was a story I saw and it like, oh yeah, we knew they were doing that. Now the crazy thing is, there was a story I saw and it said, you know, like 50% of Republicans believe global elites are running child trafficking rings.
Starting point is 00:35:52 And it was like incredulous. And I'm like, but- What's wrong with the other 50%? No, no, but the issue is, it's like they're trying to make it seem like it's a crazy idea to have when Ghislaine Maxwell was literally on trial at that point.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Let me show you this other story. Take a look at this one. I just, I saw this in the morning and, and you know, look, I normally, I like the Daily Mail. They're not that bad, but they're not like the best. Clarence Thomas cites debunked claim that COVID vaccines are created with cells of aborted children in dissent on SCOTUS decision. There is so much wrong with this story okay they go on to
Starting point is 00:36:27 say clarence thomas suggested covet vaccines are developed using cells of aborted children true underneath that sentence it says cells obtained from elective abortions decades ago were used in testing during the covet vaccine development process what how can you have these two sentences next to each other? They think you're stupid. They're only going to read the headline. Here's the best part. You're right.
Starting point is 00:36:50 You only read the headline. You don't know the facts. Let's say you actually got to the second part. You're like, oh, Clarence Thomas was right. No. Clarence Thomas didn't actually cite this at all. Clarence Thomas referenced the plaintiff argument in his dissent.
Starting point is 00:37:08 He did not say personally, I, Clarence Thomas, believe that this vaccine is developed with. He said the plaintiffs are suing because the vaccines X, Y, and Z. And then the media went, oh, he's saying it's true too.
Starting point is 00:37:20 And it's like, no, no, he was citing their argument. Which is exactly what Shue just did to AOC. That's right. it's the exact same thing here's the best part the vaccines are developed using cells from aborted babies for the testing process well we didn't call that the best part but the facetious best part the media is the fact they said it's a debunked claim? No, it isn't. This here says that they were created with the cells,
Starting point is 00:37:50 but you're saying they were tested on with the cells, but then did the final product use them too? Because there's the... Let's get as literal as possible. Hold on. We'll get as literal as possible. In the process of creating this vaccine, there are numerous steps.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Now, that's a good argument. The creation is the entire process of development. Which requires testing before any kind of... So you're just talking about the final thing that they end up making. Maybe all the things they tested aren't being used in the final thing. Now, that's a challenging argument.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Not only did he never say the words created with, he said development. And he was citing, he was quoting a group. They attribute it to him. They changed the word in the framing. And it's fake anyway, because how could you create a medication they attribute it to him they change the word in the framing and it's fake anyway because how could you create a medication without testing it how would you know it did anything if you didn't test it you know you're not you're not you're not legally allowed to do
Starting point is 00:38:36 that imagine you were like this person is sick i'm going to take a chemical the chemical is medicine for it i've never tested it but i'm just going to sell it now no no there's a testing process in the creation of any drug. So even if you want to get technical, Clarence Thomas would have been right should he have actually claimed it was created using these things. It is just such a mishmash garbage nonsense media landscape. Anyway, my point is to go back to the liberal world order stuff today. If you talked about new world order, even a month ago, they were like, it's a conspiracy. It's not real.
Starting point is 00:39:07 And then you got, who was it who came out? I mean, Joe Biden said it several times. He said, so Biden has said it. And we were playing the clip earlier today where he was, this was 2017. He uses the exact same phrase, liberal world order. And so you've heard also a phrase a lot lately, the rules-based world order. But when you hear this, again, liberal world order, and you realize that, okay, this is really, it's, define world, by the way, because it doesn't seem like most of the world is in this, does it?
Starting point is 00:39:34 And you see Build Back Better all over the planet. Build Back Better is all over, yeah. But if you look at the countries that are involved with the Bank for International Settlements, which is the Swiss bank, governs like the Federal Reserve and all these other federal, these banks, you see the countries that are stuck inside the Federal Reserve and all these other federal, these banks. You see the countries that are stuck inside of this liberal economic order. It's the same country. What I'm saying is you see like maybe, you know, maybe Japan, South Korea,
Starting point is 00:39:52 but it's not all of Asia. It's certainly not all of Africa. There are huge swaths of South America that aren't part of this thing. And so when it comes down to it, you know, if you can define, can we get a map of the liberal world order? You know, can we get, you know, do we have flags for it uh here's what they do have a month for it there will be someone who says lizard people and then they'll find the craziest claim and say this is what the new world order conspiracy theory believes then you'll get a major politician like biden saying it's time we
Starting point is 00:40:23 get a new world order and what he's's time we get a new world order and what he's saying is we have a liberal world order and we need a new kind of world order which means powerful global elites and interests are colluding for the sake of international governance which is literally what the council on foreign relations calls it and then if you say oh did you see that they're talking about new world order and they'll, that means you believe in lizard people. Try to debunk it. Before the internet, it was easy to do because the media would just lie. Now we can talk to each other much more easily and they can't do anything about it. However, I checked the Wikipedia for the liberal economic order, the rules-based order, the
Starting point is 00:40:59 US-led world economy, basically. And they have, Wikipedia has changedikipedia in the last month maybe even damage control for when this guy came out and said it they took away the throwing you can go to the wayback machine and look at the difference it's pretty stark in the beginning of this they were very overt that it was a u.s led world economic order yeah let's find out when they recently changed it because they took the u.s led part part out of it. Because you know people are hitting it. They're reading the first paragraph and they're toning out. But this is very much that after World War II, they decided we don't want another world war.
Starting point is 00:41:32 We're going to use the U.S. and the U.S. military to set up military bases all across the world. Use OPEC. We're going to use the American military might to force people to buy oil and U.S. dollars, create a global currency, create a global authority. That's basically what this world order is. There's also a world of thought that it's actually sort of an inheritance of the British Empire, that where, you know, and maybe even 500 years from now, when, you know, whatever America is at that point, or whatever North America is at that point, that historians in the future may even just consider this order as a continuation of the British Empire and may not even separate
Starting point is 00:42:11 them. Which really was like the banking empire that got into Britain. Happy Fourth of July, by the way. Hey, check it out. Check it out. Just real quick. Sorry, Ian. No problem.
Starting point is 00:42:17 The first article is the Liberal International Economic Order, and then it actually references the New International Economic Order order so it's like so it's the liberal world order the new world order the remix yeah i think what happened was when the rothschild family in like the 1700s started their banking empire and this bavarian banker his three sons uh split up in each took a piece of of the banking empire basically that's how they got it started one of the bankers went to England, and that guy started controlling England through the bank. And that's the new world order is the banking part of it. So when you're saying it's an extension of the British Empire, the American Empire,
Starting point is 00:42:54 which is really an extension of the banking empire, this Bavarian banking empire, now they're set up in Switzerland with this Bank for International Settlements, which needs way more media attention. We're going to have to... It's not a conspiracy theory anymore, gentlemen. The narrative's busted apart. And it was easy when someone would... You could be a researcher and you can go,
Starting point is 00:43:14 hey, New York Times, did you notice that there's a bunch of documents showing that there's a bunch of international elites coming together for some kind of global economic order? And they'll say, don't know, don't care, we won't publish it. Now you can actually publish documents and there's no denying it.
Starting point is 00:43:27 It just breaks through the barrier. Unless your name is Julian Assange. There's the song. Well, he did a lot more than that. I was told like the UN was basically all the countries of the world, the best powers of the world. And then I found out about the non-aligned movement.
Starting point is 00:43:38 You guys familiar with the non-aligned movement? It's every other country that's not in the UN. It's basically another UN. It's the other one. Like there's two worlds going on right now. One of them the u.s led rules-based economy and then there's everything else the there's the g7 and there's bricks and bricks has i think what like four or five times no like six or seven times as many people and it's bricks is growing so um this is one of the biggest things that we've seen this week and and really nobody is talking about it that which it's
Starting point is 00:44:04 and it is and i'm just gonna just gonna say it right this is growing as a response to the liberal world order slipping and and collapsing in upon itself um you can look at potentially the turnover of hong kong is one of the early you know kind of precursors of this and then really though just what two years so today right xi jinping went to hong kong for the first time since the protests in 2019. And those protests were over. Okay, so Hong Kong, yeah, they changed flags in 97. That's when the UK formally rescinded sovereignty.
Starting point is 00:44:37 But it was 2019 when they passed what they called the national security law, where the CCP essentially came in and just took essential total control, just total control. And Xi Jinping today, this very day, visited for the first time, and he said Hong Kong has risen from the ashes. Wow. That's what he stated today because he knows he's won. So let's talk about the liberal – And so, not to go up, but to finish my point, BRICS is arising. BRICS is on the way up.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Iran just stated that they put in a submission to join BRICS. I don't know if they've changed the acronym then. And do people know what BRICS is? Argentina is talking about it. So BRICS, what is it? Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, right? Five of the world's biggest countries, and certainly population-wise. And they are starting economic, but they're talking military, certainly China, Russia.
Starting point is 00:45:32 And they are moving, to Ian's point, in a currency basis as well. I'm wondering about the liberal economic order and the value of it, because I trash it a lot. The whole idea of a global military economic government that's in the shadows is terrifying. But the reason it was built was to prevent a world war. Now, if we completely just dispense with it, it's gone. Tomorrow, you've got bricks. You've got like an autocratic communist government. So it's like, do you believe it's one or the other, Jack?
Starting point is 00:46:01 I'm interested in your take on the liberal economic order, the value of it. Well, so this gets to me as a populist, and what I believe is that I think that we do need to go back to a system where, and this is where the phrase America first comes from, right? So people get the mistake that America first means American only, or that America should just go and do whatever they feel like. And no, that's not necessarily true. It's just that our government should exist for the benefit of the people who live within the confines of the country, right? Which is the opposite, obviously, of what Brian Deese said today.
Starting point is 00:46:35 And so it is in the benefit, obviously, of the United States to have military alliances, to have trade, to have economic relations, but we shouldn't put those global organizations and transnational organizations ahead of the interest of our own people. We need to go back to what might even be considered more of a 19th century type of formulation in this idea of, sure, we can have these forums that exist, right? And you can call it whatever you want, but we should never become subservient to them. It should always be a forum which is
Starting point is 00:47:10 subservient to the sovereignty of the nation itself. I feel like a lot of people are begging for that kind of world though right now. It's scary. Like when I was in New York, people were, they really wanted a big government across the whole world to keep them safe from COVID. And we just, and that's the opposite of what we've seen. And that's, and that's the, by the way, and that's the great reset, right? That's, that's what the great reset is. That's what the documentary we're working on is about. That's apparently why I got detained in Davos for, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:35 having the, the audacity to, to simply go there and talk about it. We also went to Geneva and talked about the world health organizations, pandemic treaty that they're trying to push on the 104 to 94 nations. And so this is the problem, right? The problem is that you have, for example, I just mentioned Hong Kong, right? So when we were in Davos, we were going up and down the promenade. We went through a huge, so Russia's been kicked out, right? Ukraine everywhere.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Everything's Ukraine. Ukraine flags, Ukraine house, underwritten by Victor Pinchuk, who's Victor Pinchuk, by the way, he was the oligarch who at one point was one of the top donors to the Clinton Foundation, right? So one of the most powerful oligarchs within the Ukraine sphere. Russia's been kicked out, Ukraine's everywhere. And we're told you have to support Ukraine because you support democracy. We also went to Ukraine as well. And we went down to Odessa, Mykolaiv, my brother was with me. And the one thing though, the one word that I didn't hear anywhere at the World Economic Forum in Davos, there was no house for it. There was no speaker who mentioned it. There was no breakout session on it. And that was the word Taiwan. The word Taiwan was completely omitted from the World Economic Forum. And so my question was,
Starting point is 00:48:51 well, you guys care so much about democracy and freedom. Where's Taiwan on this? And it's simple because the CCP has set up a situation where they're in this military slash economic alliance with Russia and the BRICS nations. But they're also in an economic relationship with the West and the liberal world order. Why? Because we've been financing them with Western capital since the 1970s, essentially since the death of Mao and the rise of Deng Xiaoping. And post Tiananmen Square, it was the Bush family and it was so many interests associated there to say essentially, look, we're not going to push over the power of the CCP. We're going to make a deal with you. And Snowcroft goes over there and has
Starting point is 00:49:38 the secret meeting, right? Because the CCP could have been on their last legs if we just pulled the rug out from under them and cut FDI immediately on June 5th, 1989. But that's not what Bush did when he was in office. He said, we're going to make a deal. We're going to make a deal with you. Our manufacturing is going to come over here. We're going to use your slave labor. That's where that's going to go. We keep the IP, right? So we get to maintain the companies. We get to maintain the power and the profits from it. You guys get all the manufacturing. And that's been the bulwark of this liberal world order because we've outsourced our manufacturing to Asia. We've outsourced our energy to the Middle East as it was. And this was something that Trump, when he was in office, was whether he meant to or not, right? That was what
Starting point is 00:50:23 he was working to roll back that's what gave us american energy not just independence but dominance and that was why he was so opposed to nafta tpp so many of these deals well let's let's get serious about what's going on in the world though you talk about all these very scary things let's talk about the source of their power the large hadron collider inverse reports the large hadron collider restarts next week. Here's what it's hunting for. Also right next to Geneva, by the way. Also right there. I want to point
Starting point is 00:50:51 something out. I am kidding. I think it's going to be fun that they restart this, but there's a lot of jokey, silly theories about... They're not silly. Alright, alright, but hold on. You're going to love this one. You know Geneva, that really is like the global head. For sure. People think it's the UN, but hold on. You're going to love this one. You know Geneva, that really is like the global head. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 00:51:06 People think it's the UN, but Geneva really is. That's the main engine of the United Nations. It's all there. And the WHO. Let's first say this. The Large Hadron Collider in Geneva is restarting next week. A lot of people think weird stuff is going on. We have this story from August 18th, 2016.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Humans, this is from The Independent. You can see their little pride symbol next to their logo. Even though it's MAGA month, what are they doing? Humans sacrifice staged at CERN,
Starting point is 00:51:34 home of the God particle. CERN says the ritual could undermine the actual science that goes on at the organization. Now, they say a human sacrifice
Starting point is 00:51:42 has been staged in the grounds of the European Organization for Nuclear Research, the home of the God particle. A video circulating online shows hooded figures apparently engaging in a ritual staged under a huge statue of a Hindu deity, at the end of which a woman is stabbed. But the footage appears to have been recorded as part of a prank by scientists. Then you get this on Wikipedia. The CERN ritual hoax.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Okay, far be it from me to claim it was anything other than a prank, but it reminds me of, are you guys watching The Boys? I know it, I haven't seen it. It's the new show on Amazon Prime, and I'm not going to spoil it, but there's a point at which two characters are arguing, and then
Starting point is 00:52:19 one character turns out to be recording, so the other character goes, you're not supposed to record when we're running lines. And I thought that was hilarious because like that's a way out of getting caught so someone's filming you like oh we're just we were acting the whole time and then i see this and it's like someone posts video footage showing a human sacrifice and they're like oh it was a prank this is a prank bro just art it's a prank just art we just we're just doing it we got you buddy we. We got you, buddy. We got you.
Starting point is 00:52:46 And you know, it looks like you stabbed that woman. She's not stabbed. It's a prank. She's screaming. That's acting. So the issue is, look, here's what I'm going to say. I have no evidence of anything about what happened with that human sacrifice thing at CERN. But I'm not just going to believe the media when they're like, it's a prank, bro.
Starting point is 00:53:04 I'm like, okay, well, dude, I don't know. That doesn't debunk anything. You're just saying it's a prank. Well, you know, interference patterns. So if there's multiple frequencies going on that aren't the same, they interfere with each other and then you get a diminishment. And if people are vibrating and there's too many of them and their vibrations are interfering with each other, that would mean that you need to remove some of the interference.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Well, I think this is what... I'm sorry, I got to break it down. I'm talking about producing coherence. You want to talk about conspiracy theories? Let's talk about conspiracy theories. What is going on? Alright, check it out. So, there's the fluoride conspiracy theory that it calcifies your pineal gland, or whatever. I don't know what that means.
Starting point is 00:53:42 I guess it does? I don't know. Does it? Do you want to think about it? The idea is... Yes, it does. I've read scientific data that says the pineal gland can calcify yeah and so people often say that that pineal gland is like the third eye to help you perceive the spiritual and stuff and by living in a world where we've we've we've neutralized our abilities because of fluoride we've essentially destroyed our third eye or whatever. And so there's that idea. And then this is a funny one. The double slit experiment, right? You guys know about the double slit experiment? You don't? Let me explain.
Starting point is 00:54:12 So if you take a big sheet of metal and then you behind it, you put a big target board. If you fire off a bunch of shotgun blasts at that sheet of metal with a single slit through it when you go behind it
Starting point is 00:54:27 what will you see on the target board? A straight line of pellets or buckshot or whatever from the shotgun. So the plate shields everything but that slit. If you put two slits what would you expect to see? Two straight lines right behind it.
Starting point is 00:54:42 They did this with electrons. Through the single slit they got what's called a particulate pattern, a particle pattern, meaning a straight line of electrons hit the back sensor. When they used two, the double slit, they got an interference pattern suggesting waves, which is more like water. Hippies then went on to be like, whoa, that proves that the observer changes reality. And it's like, well, no, it's like the method by which we measured it changed wave function collapse.
Starting point is 00:55:12 So it doesn't necessarily mean a whole lot, but a lot of people believe the double slit experiment proves that the observer plays a role in when reality collapses to a single point. That is, there could be an infinite number of universes and that you as an observer observing something determine when it collapses to a single position as opposed to a superposition. To oversimplify it again,
Starting point is 00:55:34 your observation manipulates reality and creates it. If that is true, then the conspiracy theory goes, there are too many people on the planet and all of their observations are interfering with each other, creating a chaotic world, which results in a Donald Trump presidency. So the conspiracy theory is global elites want to cull as many people as possible, not because of overpopulation, but to diminish the amount of observers who are affecting reality. I think it's all magic talk mumbo jumbo and might as well just be a science fiction novel, but it's fun, right? But it is happening through corporate media where they're giving us a distortion of information through that. It's like every time you read anything.
Starting point is 00:56:09 I think what's happening in the double split, you got most of it right, but I think there's something about it was when they had two slits, if they fired the electrons through and no one was watching, they would come back later and they'd find two patterns, two lines. But if they record it, then they get it backwards no no you're right they find the interference pattern it's the other way around when they when they measured which slit the electrons were going through they got they went through one or the other right they got they got a particle pattern when they didn't measure it they went through what looked like both it went
Starting point is 00:56:37 through all and created a wave pattern so that's when they were like wow the act of measuring which one i went through changed wave function so too too much observation is creating too stagnant of a reality. Is the conspiracy theory. In reality, there's a much simpler explanation. Imagine there is an... So I'm sorry for all the hippies out there who believe in the double slit experiment. I'm going to debunk it for you. Or not debunk it, but cast doubt.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Well, I always thought that the simpler explanation would be it has something to do with the function of the measuring. Well, exactly. So here's the point. So imagine there is a table and an ant is walking across the table. And you are like, I wonder how far that ant has walked. So you take a ruler and slam it on the table. And then the ant turns left.
Starting point is 00:57:16 And you go, the act of observing the ant changed the direction. I can control ants with my mind. And you're like, no, dude, you put a ruler next to it and it got scared and ran away. Whatever you did to monitor the electron interfered with its function and changed what was going to happen. That's the simple answer. A lot of the hippy-dippy people are like,
Starting point is 00:57:35 it means like when you look at it with your own eyes, it changes. But it does indicate that the observation tool can interfere with behavior and wondering we are observation tools. Are we inadvertently interfering with reality just by watching it no is that why meditation is so valuable because you you remove yourself from the observer but that is not the point i'm making the point i'm making is
Starting point is 00:57:54 that when you slam a ruler next to an ant you create a physical disturbance and the ant will change its behavior i think the physical disturbance of the observer is undetectable it is it is not the fact that a human eyeball is looking at a machine measuring an electron. It's that you are injecting something to the point where the electron is, causing it to physically interact. I bet when you're thinking about something, you're doing that too. I don't. I don't believe that. I don't think that that's true.
Starting point is 00:58:17 But, you know, far be it for me. I don't know. But this is why – let's talk about meditation. I mean, Twitter – I don't know if you guys feel it, but I get agitated when I get on there. Not always. Sometimes I'm so agitated I don't realize i'm agitated well i mean that's everyone opens twitter psychology have you ever meditated for like 20 minutes and come out like a placid lake well it's nice to just get all the noise out for sure i mean you have to do
Starting point is 00:58:38 it and is it like if we don't meditate they're gonna they're coming for you they're coming for your thoughts what i'm doing is meditating but i'm trying to stay away from the phone and turn off the tvs why don't own a tv so what is doing is meditating, but I'm trying to stay away from the phone and turn off the TVs. Well, I don't own a TV. So what is it? It's either they're going to try and reduce the population by making us have less kids, or we're all going to start meditating and everyone's going to chill. We're all going to go to the metaverse.
Starting point is 00:58:55 So think about this. If the observation thing and the meditation thing is real, that means prayer is real. Prayer is for sure real. And that means the more people who believe in this and pray towards it and focus on it, the more real it becomes. Prayer seems to have a function. It's like dropping a pebble in a lake. If you pray once and you think, healthy, you pray that, and then the
Starting point is 00:59:14 pebble drops. Then you have no thought, and the ripples will go out, and things will become healthy. But if you keep thinking healthy, healthy, healthy, it's like dropping a lot of pebbles and the crease interference, and you don't get the effect that you intend. Didn't they do a study that found that people who are prayed for often recovered better or something like that? Yep.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Yeah. I was reading some scientific study a while ago. I could be wrong though, but it sounds like you read it. I don't have the details on me right now, but just stories like that and studies like that and just seeing the power of it in just, just seeing the power of it in my life, seeing the power of it in, in my career politics, you know, I,
Starting point is 00:59:51 I, I undoubtedly, right. And with unreservedly believe in the power of prayer. And I've, and I've been teaching it to my children as just part, we make it part of our daily life. You know,
Starting point is 01:00:01 we do it before we eat, we do it before we go to bed. We sit, we pray the rosary, right. That's, that's what's what we do. And it's not something where I'm screaming at them, you got that word wrong or something. You just make it part of life. Mad Fientist And it works in the opposite direction too, for doom. In the town that I've been writing about for the next book, although it's very religious, there's a lot of people who've, they're deeply connected right to the Civil
Starting point is 01:00:24 War and the doom has never left this town. It's just one thing after religious. There's a lot of people who've, they're deeply connected right to the Civil War. And the doom has never left this town. And like, it's just one thing after another. It's almost like they're manifesting it. I don't think they are, but it's, you know, they're praying. And there's people there who are deeply religious. But the younger generation right now is so filled with doom. I mean, they're completely hopeless. And like, it's like the town is inescapable.
Starting point is 01:00:43 It seems like a metaphor for the country at large, perhaps, for that age group. It's scary. If you search on the internet, you can find sources telling you anything you want to hear. It's pretty true. It's the real challenge. Absolutely. I found studies saying it does help, and I found studies saying it doesn't help. Have you guys heard of Dr. Masaru Emoto?
Starting point is 01:01:00 He did a study of human consciousness on water. He'd focus prayer on water and then measure the molecular structure of the water and you'd see different patterns depending on the energy he was putting into it. And they'd be like, no, scientific method, prove it. Do it a million times and then show it. But he'd get different responses when he would do it. So it was impossible to prove with the scientific
Starting point is 01:01:18 method. I think it disproves it. It disproves it as per the scientific method. But that's not the only form of science. It's just one of the best ones we have right now. If he can't recreate the molecular structure through thought, then he's not doing anything. According to scientific method, he's not. But it does seem to be happening. He just can't explain it necessarily.
Starting point is 01:01:36 It doesn't seem to be happening. If you... Pull it up. It's pretty cool. So this is a guy. He took water, and then he preyed on it. And he would focus on a word like anger or pain. And then he would take a look at the molecular structures and find patterns emerging, but
Starting point is 01:01:51 he couldn't recreate any of the patterns. So it's just random noise. For all we know, it's just the water hit other water and then shuffled into a pattern. Then he prayed and went, I must've done that. It's like, well, you couldn't recreate it. So you clearly didn't. Yeah. It's not recreatable.
Starting point is 01:02:03 That's the thing about the scientific method though, is it's like recreate it clearly didn't. Yeah, it's not recreatable. That's the thing about the scientific method, though, is it's like recreate it or get out. And sometimes things aren't recreatable. They just happen. You know, they call them miracles, sometimes in the religious sense. But I think the scientific method, we created it. It's a newer form of science, but it doesn't mean it's going to be the final form of science.
Starting point is 01:02:20 I think eventually we'll figure out there's more to what's going on than the hard matter that we perceive. Donald Trump was memed into the presidency. Have you guys seen that internet history about meme magic and all the weird stuff that happened? Have I seen it? Did you make it? Do not speak to me of the deep magic, which I was there when it was written.
Starting point is 01:02:46 When it was written. Yo, the Donald Trump kek conspiracy stuff is crazy. They summoned an Egyptian chaos god. Right? No, because people were
Starting point is 01:03:02 and, you know, because there was a certain avatar meme that was very popular in 2015 and 2016 of a frog. Alt-right demon. You know, of course, right. Which, again, it had nothing to do with that sort of thing. It was just sort of like, it was the idea that, and frogs have generally been associated with with like chaos right for you know throughout history and they're they're just they're okay they're a chaotic creature ever try to catch one and so people are looking this up and apparently the egyptian god
Starting point is 01:03:35 of chaos was actually a frog named kek named kek here's and this is how crazy it is right in world of warcraft when you were playing the opposing faction if you were playing the alliance you saw the horde if they typed lol the translator would turn it into kek so a meme emerged among young people where they would say kek instead of lol for laugh out loud right kek is the egyptian god of chaos a frog pepe then there was that uh that album what was that album with the shadow lay shadow lay with and it was a frog like it was italian right all these weird things started coming together and then there's just a whole bunch of like 4chan posts where it was like someone said something like if i get trips so when you post you get a code a string of a string of numbers and they're like if i if you get three
Starting point is 01:04:18 in a row at the end something happens and it was like all sevens or whatever it was like donald trump becomes president the whole post was all sevens it legit it It was like Donald Trump becomes president and the whole post was all sevens. It legit, it's like probably one of the funnest and funniest, I wouldn't call it a conspiracy theory, but like trippy internet video to watch that you want to believe is true. All this crazy, Ian's freaking out. You're making me think of pattern recognition patterns because I don't think that we're as free
Starting point is 01:04:41 and wild and chaotic as we seem, as humans or as reality exists. It does seem like we're cycling towards a path involved in some sort of megastructure that we don't necessarily or that I don't understand right now. Well, there's even the Egyptian hieroglyphic for Keck, if I remember correctly. It looks like a guy at a computer no that was fake that was fake that was fake yeah oh really yes oh no no so they were real hieroglyphics yeah but they didn't say keck and then so people put it together because it was funny oh no way that sucks
Starting point is 01:05:18 yeah that's the reality of a lot of the stuff you think is my favorite one i don't think the addition it was like a guy at a computer and then there was like a symbol in between and then there was and then there was and there was a guy right and they said that the symbol in between was mean magic happening well this is why they had to uh get rid of the social media platforms because um and i'm saying this as a joke because people were using them to effectively pray en masse to Keck, Egyptian god of chaos, and it was working. So the powers that be, the big tech Silicon Valley people, banned them to stop the praying to Keck.
Starting point is 01:05:54 That's true. I'm kidding, but it is the result. Is this why Elon hasn't tweeted in over a week? This is the actual Keck thing. There is a person sitting there. That's pretty close. That's pretty close to what the other one was right but the other one had it would look like a circle like a terminal yeah yeah it looked like a terminal i i don't i don't think anyone saw it coming i mean i i might even roll the dice here and say that no one on earth saw this
Starting point is 01:06:20 connection before it happened saw what the lol would? The LOL would spell kek, which was a frog that they used to laugh with Pepe. So it all, it sort of just came together this way and it's very crazy. Like in World of Warcraft, kek meant laugh out loud. So people started saying kek
Starting point is 01:06:34 instead of laugh out loud. The Pepe meme emerges. Then people start discovering that kek is a real thing. There was Kekistan. Oh, I know. Well, I was a Mines moderator at the time. So you're like, well, here comes the Kekistan. You know the Kekistan? Oh, I know it well. I was a Mines moderator at the time. So you're like,
Starting point is 01:06:45 well, here comes the Kekistan. It was the home of the Kekistan, essentially, for about a year. The oppressed Kekistani people. Tim, do you think that we are in like a vibrational superstructure? In like a... Simulation is a vague way of saying it,
Starting point is 01:06:57 but do you think we're in like a pattern? In a pattern? The universe is, of course, a pattern. Everything functions... Like math proves the universe is a pattern. It's just a massive one we can't comprehend the entirety of, at least as far as we can tell. But if there was no pattern, we'd be chaos. There'd be no order.
Starting point is 01:07:12 There'd be no structure. There'd be no human body. There'd be no stars. So, of course, there's pattern. And the people, if you pay attention, you start to see the pattern. But a lot of people aren't paying attention. I noticed with internet video. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 01:07:23 It's like have you talked – whenever we talk to people who do DMT, they're like, the machine elves tell you that, I think Michael Maus was saying this, that reality is like a song. Yeah. It goes in loops with like, here's the chorus, and then here's the body, and then it loops, and it's just like music being played.
Starting point is 01:07:40 Cernovich has been doing a lot of interviews lately about ayahuasca which is which is simply sort of like the plant-based version of dnt and uh he was on with with alex clark on spillover talking about this and he did an interview with charlie kirk about it and one thing that he said and that i thought was interesting was that he said it people say are you hallucinating he said no it felt like the hallucination was falling away. Like that place felt more real. Like this is where it all started.
Starting point is 01:08:10 I've heard that a lot. And you realize that the world that we perceive as the real world is like, that's the one that is the hallucination. You want to hear something funny to everybody listening? I'll tell you exactly what's going to happen. I know what the afterlife is. You guys ready for this? Let's go.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Every single person watching the show, one day, your time will come. And then as you pass, you will see a bright light in front of you that you'll rush through. And then all of a sudden,
Starting point is 01:08:35 you'll sit up from your couch and you're Ian. And you're like, whoa. Oh, good. That'll be good for you. Ayahuasca is very interesting. It's a combination
Starting point is 01:08:44 of a vine and a root bark, the mimosa root bark, and they boil them together and they boil them again. And then you drink it and your body starts producing DMT endogenously, meaning from the inside you make your own DMT. And then normally your body can inhibit the DMT, so you're not always tripping, but it has an inhibitor for the inhibitor when you consume it. What happens is the plant has dimethyltryptamine. Was it dimethyltryptamine?
Starting point is 01:09:11 That's DMT. DMT in it, but your body will destroy it and it won't be absorbed. When they mix it, they're adding an MAOI inhibitor, which bonds to it and allows it to enter your body and then... So it's in the plant and your body starts producing it in excess maybe this one now i've only sipped on ayahuasca and it was delicious it tasted like grass like if you ever chew on grass it's very bitter it was really concentrated dark brown grass juice and i sipped on it and immediately felt the dmt uh clarity like when i go into
Starting point is 01:09:43 when i make an internet, YouTube videos or internet videos and I start channeling my thoughts and I don't even remember what I said, but that's why I started recording them in the first place because I was like, I remember it was cool what I said. I just don't remember what it was.
Starting point is 01:09:53 How long does the high last when you're drinking it? It was like for, I took a sip and then it was like within 30 seconds, I felt that rush of clarity. And then after about a minute, it started to dip out.
Starting point is 01:10:04 But I had just taking a tiny sip wow just to just to clarify i know the surface level stuff about ayahuasca but just to pull it up ayahuasca is notorious for its psychedelic properties produced from the combination of maois found in benisteriopsis copy vine and nn dimethyltryptamine from psychotria viridis or diplopteris carborana. Basically, it is – so MAOI inhibitor is a – what's the word? The I means inhibitor, I believe. Exactly. So there's a word for when you say ATM machine.
Starting point is 01:10:42 Yeah. It's repetitive. Yeah, there's a word for that. It's called the monoamine oxidase inhibitor. So MAO inhibitors. Yes. MAO inhibitors, yeah. That at the same time as DMT allows your body to absorb it.
Starting point is 01:10:53 That's what people do. I'm really fascinated by this. DMT is such a fascinating subject, and especially with all the weird meme magic and stuff. I don't understand how an adult human can't look at the scientific research on DMT, look at the history of ayahuasca, and then look at the strange phenomenon around things like meme magic and deja vu and all of these strange things and not just conclude there is something magical
Starting point is 01:11:23 to the universe beyond our comprehension. And the history to put out there, I mean, this is South American, this is the Amazonians, this is Peru, this is something that has gone back. And there are stories that have come out of the Amazon talking about these types of what we would consider hallucinations or hallucinogens. And people essentially state that this was the shamanistic drink, right? This is something that goes back thousands of years. Did you guys see the, I think it was a panther chewing on the vine and then tripping his
Starting point is 01:11:55 balls off? It's a video on YouTube. Oh, really? He's rolling around and looking at the sky. It's so awesome. Wow. Yeah. DNP is not just for humans.
Starting point is 01:12:04 Joe Rogan was talking about it a couple years ago. I was, you know, whenever I talk to people about religion and stuff, I always talk about how there are things that seem to be beyond probability, that it seems so incredibly rare that it's sure it could happen, or that perhaps it's as close as you get to a miracle. But the meme magic stuff, you can explain away a whole lot of. How did, you know, Pepe come to be as you get to a miracle. But the meme magic stuff, you can explain away a whole lot of. How did Pepe come to be this? It was a meme.
Starting point is 01:12:30 It was a meme. Where did Kek come from? Well, someone noticed there was an Egyptian deity, which was a frog named Kek. And they said, hey, it's really funny that we use the frog meme and we say Kek. So they make Kek the god. Some of that can be explained away.
Starting point is 01:12:41 But a lot of that coincidence is just purely chaotic and magical in some sense. I don't mean magic like a genie blinking and manifesting. I mean, just like serendipitous, to be explained away. But a lot of that coincidence is just purely chaotic and magical in some sense. I don't mean magic like a genie blinking and manifesting. I mean just like serendipitous, like there is an ebb and flow to the universe and things that you'd think are rare are less rare than they really are. Then you listen to these stories about the research on DMT, how people trip on DMT, but then share an experience. And you're like, there's something else out there how could you just think
Starting point is 01:13:07 was it what they shared the experience or was it that I think the study that I read was that they had the same experience separately no no people like I'm not going to name people but people you've known from the show like we've talked to have said they were with each other
Starting point is 01:13:23 so they take DMT and then pass out on the couch right and then we're in the same place talking with each other that's amazing yeah something maybe maybe i'm sorry no it's all good maybe it's they fill in the gaps afterwards like they're you've brain damaged yourself right memory and then you're like right and then maybe you go oh man it was like there's a giraffe there and then i remember i said you should do a backflip and they go you did say to do a backflip we were there together and it's like or maybe you just did drugs right something i encountered a lot in the in georgia in this town was a coincidence all the time every time i turn around there's another coincidence one small one would be like you know having a general in the or a colonel in
Starting point is 01:14:04 the union whose name was jefferson davis but another one would be like you know having a general in the or a colonel in the union whose name was jefferson davis but another one would be like uh in this town in washington uh this writer who i found her book she wrote like all like the straight reporting from like the early 1900s everything was about like the stump has been removed or this person has died whatnot but one was uh this woman was sick and it was like 1890 and she traveled 40 miles north. And that night she woke from a fever and had a dream and told her husband that town has burnt down. And she told him the direct path of the fire.
Starting point is 01:14:35 And then the next day, this guy came up on the train and said, the town burnt down. And then the father went, the husband went down and it was like the same path. And like, okay, that's weird maybe. But like the fact that that lady had written so much straight reporting like i'm like that's crazy to add that there are so many stories like that throughout human history i wonder if a lot of it can be explained away but every so often you're like come on i wonder if it's like pattern recognition like you see the vibe subconsciously you see the the wind blowing through the trees and then that you know deep in your soul that that means that something is going to happen tomorrow, like a guy is going to say hello to you around 11 o'clock.
Starting point is 01:15:12 If it's that, or if it's more like we're tapped into some external vibration that— We are, but we're detached from it right now. I think because we're not paying attention enough. And I think I was experiencing so many coincidences in this town because I was hyper aware of the town while I'm there and doing a ton of research. So every time, every day, there was some new weird coincidence, whether it was personal or in my research or whatever. But I think that's because I was so observant of this one thing. And I think it happens hopefully on a broader scale for people. I really like the magnetic universe theory. You guys studied the electric universe theory at all?
Starting point is 01:15:45 Thunderbolt's project is doing a lot of good work on it. And it basically indicates like gravity as we know it is actually a form of magnetism. Maybe it's like, I don't know what they call it, when a wheel starts to spin so fast that it looks like it's spinning backwards. It's a resonant frequency. So you've got like this resonating frequency of magnetism
Starting point is 01:16:00 that looks like gravity, but it works like it. The closer you get to Earth, the faster you get stuck to it, just like a magnet. The closer a magnet gets to a magnet, the faster it gets stuck to it, just like a magnet. The closer a magnet is to a magnet, the faster it gets stuck to it. And so I wonder if we're inside of just this magnetic field vibrating, and so it's all obviously a pattern.
Starting point is 01:16:13 We're inside the black hole that CERN created in 2008. Right. Yeah, we're still in there. Yeah. Sorry. The Earth was destroyed. We all got sucked in.
Starting point is 01:16:20 I'm just imagining it's... You said 2008, you said, or 2016? I thought it was 2008 when it started. Oh, when they started it, yeah, but in 2016, they fired it up and also in trump one i mean earlier but yeah they only fire every few years is it so so is the is the original timeline still there somewhere well i'm just imagining they're like you know they're flicking all the switches and they're like getting ready to fire it up and then all of a sudden they're like are we ready all right 10 9 and then all of a sudden like a gasket blows and like they're like what's going on the power levels are going through the
Starting point is 01:16:49 roof what do we do shut it down i can't it's locked in and then everyone in stern's like no and then like a wave just ripples across the universe and then all of a sudden like donald trump is about to give his concession speech and then the wave just hits everyone and then also he goes i'm the president and And everyone's like, yeah. And they're all clapping and cheering. That's how it happened. It feels that way. I think we're trapped in it. Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton was in a protective case sphere
Starting point is 01:17:14 with her security team and they're like, what just happened? And then they look at the TV and they're like, the timeline changed. And she's like, no! No! And you know what happened? The Russians planted a device in cern overloading the power supply to manipulate the timeline that's that'd be a that'd be a fun movie wouldn't yeah i like this the gas prices are high because of cern you're saying i know it's such
Starting point is 01:17:37 weird that's what i always say when um whenever the simulation's going crazy i'll tweet this sometimes like uh like they got they gotN cranked up again, don't they, boys? Simulations running a little hot right now. You just turn it down just a little bit. It's not the only super collider in the world. They've been doing this for a while. I think they wanted to do CERN here in the beginning. We have Fermilab.
Starting point is 01:17:57 Yeah, smaller. My favorite bit is that we're in a simulation, but it's not like some grand intelligent being. It's just like some dude in college who's playing a video game. He's playing Simulation Earth 27. And then he puts his drink down to go to the bathroom
Starting point is 01:18:12 and sets the controller down. And then when he comes back, his little brother's playing and he goes, Billy, what are you doing? Dude, give me the controller. Oh, now Donald Trump's president. Come on, I gotta fix this.
Starting point is 01:18:21 I think for sure we cracked some sort of code in the simulation when we harnessed electricity because we're able to listen to the past now. We have a portal. This video, people are watching it now from where we did this before. You're listening to it now, but you're listening to it from when it was before. Have you gone back and watched those early, early restoration videos that people have done from the 1890s?
Starting point is 01:18:41 Did you see Mark Twain's documentary about World War I? No, no, no. Oh, man, it's one of the best war documentaries. But it's, well, the ones that get me, though, is it'll just be someone, and you can tell that it's the first camera, certainly first video camera that anyone's ever seen because people are walking past it in the street,
Starting point is 01:18:58 and it's like, this is what 1890s Paris looked like. And people are walking past the camera going, like, what the heck is that thing? Why is it here? Why are you filming us? And the people have gotten really... There's one YouTuber that does it. And he'll put...
Starting point is 01:19:15 Because they were silent, right? But he goes in and puts in period-specific sound effects. And it's one of the most trippy things that you'll ever see because you're looking at, and you know that everyone in this video is dead, right?
Starting point is 01:19:29 That's the one thing I always think, but it literally to your point, and it's, it's, we are looking into a mirror and an image into the past through electricity. Yeah. It's a portal portal. I want,
Starting point is 01:19:39 I've noticed with internet video, I started in oh six and I started doing the manifestation thing where I would tell people this, something is real. And then if people would believe it it would start to seem more real and things started to like coalesce like like i would just say it's gonna something's gonna happen i mean there's thousands of videos up of me doing this stuff or a thousand or something and it was like how am i so tapped into reality now like before i felt so helpless I was an observer on reality. And then I started doing internet video and I felt like I was controlling and creating reality. No, but, but tied this back to what we were talking about
Starting point is 01:20:12 earlier, right? You know, governments have had this power for a long time, right? The Gulf of Tonkin incident, right? You know, you go back to the 1960s and you straight up, people were told, right? We were attacked. America was attacked, and we need to go to war because this happened. And you had people that fought Syria, not just fought in the war, but also fought serious political battles based on that. And for them, they believed that truth so inherently. You could say the same thing for the main, the USS Maine in the Spanish-American War, which was even a little bit less government intervention, more they consider it yellow journalism of the time and Hearst and gets into all that stuff. And multiple, how many wars have been started because of something like this. And so the question is, was this a power, right? Was this a persuasion power that
Starting point is 01:21:05 was used by governments and in some cases by media because they've basically understood that if you just tell that big enough, right, you do for all intents and purposes make it real. Dude, it's so crazy to think that all of history that we know of is just told to us. If the news are fake, imagine history. So someone super chatted us saying I should read about the delayed choice quantum eraser experiment, which is even trippier than the double slit. I was reading through it a little bit. I would need to read it
Starting point is 01:21:31 several times to actually start to understand it properly. Some of those Wikipedia articles where it's so long, you can't even understand what it's about. Well, you can. You've really got to break it down and understand what a lot of these things mean because they're foreign terms in a lot of senses, right? But they basically say this.
Starting point is 01:21:49 Some have interpreted the result to mean that the delayed choice to observe or not observe the path of the idler photon changes the outcome of an event in the past. Note in particular that an interference pattern may only be pulled out for observation after the eyelids have been detected. Basically, the simple version of this, as much as I can simplify it, the double slit experiment was, we did this thing, and we noticed that when we were trying to measure it, we got a particle pattern. When we
Starting point is 01:22:18 didn't watch, we got a wave pattern. With this one, they said the choice to observe it after the fact altered the event in the past. That's possible because if you think of a photon, it's a ball. It's a sphere. And then you think of a light wave. It's a wave where it goes up and then down and up.
Starting point is 01:22:32 And I think what's happening is we're looking at a sideways cut of a bunch of beads of photons, but we're only seeing the top line above it and then the bottom line below the next photon. So we're actually seeing like a two-dimensional view of the photon that's a string. And if you wave one of the photons, it's waving the entire string, which would be the past. String theory. I don't know much about string theory.
Starting point is 01:22:56 That's sort of it. But that's the general idea, or at least that's an idea, that when we see a particle where they're entangled, it's actually the same object we're seeing that's an idea, that when we see a particle where they're entangled, it's actually the same object we're seeing. That's like, imagine it's in our dimension, then it goes into the fifth dimension, then it comes back into our dimension.
Starting point is 01:23:11 It's one sheet we see the ends of. They both vibrate because you're dangling it in the other dimension it's being impacted. So what you're saying is that there is another end of the sheet where the Berenstain bears still exist, right? Yeah. I think this one's been answered, actually.
Starting point is 01:23:26 It was answered because someone pointed out there was a run of Berenstain Bear books or videos that used EIN because they were really low-quality, mass-produced garbage. So there was no quality control. Some people actually got Berenstain Bears, but there was very few of them now that it's the future and we've digitized everything the actual ip being berenstein
Starting point is 01:23:50 bears confused those who got the the garbage misprint versions it really is a simple observation like there was one um like like the shazam thing where they're like remember the movie where sinbad was a genie it's like no you're just confusing the one where shaqu the movie where Sinbad was a genie? It's like, no, you're just confusing the one where Shaquille O'Neal was the genie or whatever. Like, it's very obvious you're just making a mistake. You know what I mean? Right. Yeah, Mandela effect would be fun,
Starting point is 01:24:13 but let's have some fun with this. So you guys know what the Mandela effect is, right? Yeah. From that idea, people have created this community about dimensional jumping where they believe that if the Mandela effect is real, meaning that you can inadvertently be transported to another
Starting point is 01:24:30 dimension, then you can control transporting yourself to another dimension. And so what they do is they say that you need sensory deprivation to isolate yourself from reality, so that you can go in and then visualize the reality you want to jump to. And if the reality is close enough to yours, you can enter it. Speaking of which, also look into that and then watch the movie Everything Everywhere All at Once because that movie was really funny. I heard that was good.
Starting point is 01:24:55 They kind of do that in Fringe too though when they drug her up and put her in the tank and she goes to the other dimension. Yeah, but that's like in Fringe there's like two realities. Yeah, there's not like multiple. These people believe that there's an infinite number of realities and that the idea is you could only jump to a reality close to yours because let's say you're uh you know jack was over in your reality a close reality would be you but you didn't come to timcast tonight that's a close enough universe to yours because the divergence is only an hour away that if you were to successfully dimensionally jump you could jump to the reality where you didn't come see i was even thinking
Starting point is 01:25:29 with something more along the lines of like you know let's say one of your past relationships that was somebody you broke up with was the one that that stuck right and so you did get married to you know the girl from high school and you're still together. Or is that too far? Too far. So you wouldn't be able to jump to a universe even where you didn't come here today because that's a huge split. But there could be something very, very simple like you didn't send that text message. Or it's like as the universe has diverged from probability, it's harder and harder to leap to the one where a change didn't happen.
Starting point is 01:26:06 But there are people who genuinely – they'll say like this is crazy stuff. They'll post and read it and they'll be like, I've done it. I jumped from a universe where my girlfriend was dead and now she's alive. And it's just like, come on, dude. No, you didn't. But they'll say things like I was there and I was looking at the photo of her remembering what it was like when she was around. And then I successfully did it and she walked in the room and I started crying and she didn't know why. And she's here now.
Starting point is 01:26:27 And it's like, Ori, you're crazy. You're making it up. Do you ever listen to Coast to Coast AM? Art Bell. Back in the day. So Art Bell from Pahrumpf, Nevada. I'm sure there's people in the chat who know what I'm talking about. That he used to do some nights where he would call in.
Starting point is 01:26:44 And if you ever worked nights in the late 90s, early 2000s, you'd definitely listen. He just dominated late night radio. And it was a lot of paranormal chat. But he used to do, all right, we're doing the time traveler's hour. I want all time travelers to call in. And they would call in. They would call in. I'm from,
Starting point is 01:27:05 I'm from, you know, 45 years in the future, 50 years in the future. And they would be describing, you know, and well, the Stephen Hawking did this once he held a,
Starting point is 01:27:14 um, he held a party for time travelers and then he sent the invitations out after the party. Right. So you guys know about John Teeter, right? The old internet conspiracy theory where that, you know about it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:25 I think on We Are Change, Luke's website, everyone's byline is John Titor. But the idea is that this guy came back and he was like, I'm from the future. Here's what happened in my future. Here's what I'm doing here in the past. And if the future, if the universe is a whole bunch of probabilities and you're going down one path and multiple in the multiverse exists and every every option you have creates a new universe then it's entirely possible someone could come from the future and be like in my future you know uh trump jr gets elected president in 2024 and you're like but he's not even running
Starting point is 01:28:01 and then you're like well my future was different because you know and then 2024 could come around and then trump jr doesn't even run for office and you're like then how he's not even running. And then you're like, well, my future was different because, you know, and then 2024 could come around and then Trump doesn't even run for office. And you're like, then how could that guy have been from the future? That makes no sense. Well, because in his version of the future, it was different. So that's what John Titor was saying, that by coming to the past, they've already changed the future in ways they couldn't even imagine. So if what they say happens doesn't happen, it's not their fault. Like they're telling you the truth.
Starting point is 01:28:23 It's like, oh, that's very convenient for you. Very convenient, yeah. It's possible that people in the future, their behavior is changing our behavior now, but that we wouldn't know that. I'm really fascinated with this delayed choice quantum eraser that you can affect the past because, well, for many reasons. But I don't think time isn't real. Time is like we invented it to kind of describe getting somewhere on time. But ultimately, things are just moving. Everything's moving, spinning around itself and moving.
Starting point is 01:28:50 And like time exists. I don't see why you can't alter. Well, time exists because entropy exists. Time is your perception of other things moving. So I think one simple way to explain it. We exist in four dimensions. We can manipulate three. I think of time kind of like if you were falling down an endless pit, you can't go back up. It's a spatial dimension. We recognize it's a spatial dimension, up and down, but you have no control because gravity is pulling you straight downwards. You can move around left and right and up, down, left, and right.
Starting point is 01:29:27 Or I should say forward, backwards, left, and right. But you can't go up. And that's what time is. We're effectively falling through time. However, if you drilled a hole all the way through the earth minus the core, just got the core out of there, and then you fell down the hole, you'd fall. And you'd accelerate, accelerate, accelerate until you got to the center. And then you'd keep falling. But you'd start to slow down, slow down, slow down.
Starting point is 01:29:45 You'd come out the other end and then you'd fall back into the hole all the way super fast. You'd melt. Well, hold on, hold on. Minus the heat. Wouldn't that feel amazing though? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:52 If you're like falling at terminal velocity and then you pass the point, you become weightless to the center. It ejects you out the other side and then you go up, become weightless for a second, then come straight back down and just slingshot. Maybe time works like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:05 Someone tell Elon to build that. That time. So here's the thing about time travel though. So you're stuck inside time. Here's what you need to understand about time travel though. The patterns in your brain that have developed over time make you you. If you were to rewind time, your brain rewinds along with time so you need to isolate yourself from time which means your your time would have to keep going forward while all time went backwards
Starting point is 01:30:31 that's probably why like this like this time travel doesn't make sense unless you went into a ship so the issue of people don't realize the time travel when a person gets in a ship and then presses the button and it transports back in time while time is going the other direction or you're moving through a hole in space, you're moving forward through time while going the other direction. That makes no sense. It would be like saying falling while you're jumping. You know what I mean? That's probably why I think backwards time travel doesn't exist.
Starting point is 01:31:02 It doesn't seem to. But the video is like a form of backwards time travel, only that we're perceiving the past. I think our experience of time is just different. When they talk about traveling near the speed of light around the lip of a black hole, your time up there would seem to say the same, but down on Earth or wherever you came from, it would go along without you. So when you came back, you'd be the same age, but they would have rapidly aged. So you're experiencing time differently.
Starting point is 01:31:27 That's just like Stephen Hawking's theory of it. Someone in the chat made a good point. What's actually happening is that as we move forward through time, the past is eaten by giant testicle-looking monsters that just- Called the Langoliers. Called the Langoliers. That's right. That's true.
Starting point is 01:31:42 That is the delayed choice testicle quantum connoisseur. I enjoyed that movie. That was fun. It was a great movie. Yeah. Gigantic, weird walnut-looking things eat everything. They eat the past. They eat the past, yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:55 If we can change the past, then we can change the thoughts of people before and fix now, or at least alter. Because they say that light- I think that would be a horrible idea. I think... I was like, what if you could go back in time and then warn Trump and like, here's what you need to do.
Starting point is 01:32:14 I just thought about what would happen if you did. You appear just in the Oval Office like in a... And there's like a black ring of smoke around you and you stand up and you're like, Mr. President, I'm from the future. This is everything that happens and what you need to do. You need to take these actions.
Starting point is 01:32:29 He goes, excuse me. Excuse me. No. I don't know you. I'm doing what I want. You're like, no. And you get dragged out and then he just does the same thing he was going to do anyway. You know the Bannon-Baron theory, right?
Starting point is 01:32:38 What is it? That Bannon is barren? No, no, no. That Bannon is barren from the future sent back to warn Trump about what's going on, but he can't reveal it because that would challenge all of it, which also doesn't work
Starting point is 01:32:57 because of Bannon's height at this point. Steve's pretty tall, isn't he? Bannon's like 6'9 now. Yeah, but when you get older, you start to... Yeah, well, the time travel, the dilation effect, this point but no but steve's pretty tall isn't he baron's like six nine now yeah but you know when you get older you start yeah well the time travel the dilation effect obviously scrunches you down compresses your spine because you're compressing your molecules you know no no the dilithium crystals yeah baron knew that he would be exposed as a time traveler right so he underwent a radical procedure to alter his appearance because in the future baron is at with the
Starting point is 01:33:26 scientists at cern and they're like we've developed time travel and then he looks in the mirror and he goes i'm steve bannon and so then they're like we must conform you to how bannon was supposed to look and right right then they send him back in time you know you can see the future because the light that hits your eye is moving faster than the object so you see it coming before it gets there like when someone throws a baseball at you you see it coming before it gets there. Like when someone throws a baseball at you, you see it coming. That's why people can anticipate where something's going to be. So in that moment when someone's about to speak, you sense it before they say it, which is why your feelings alter their behavior.
Starting point is 01:33:58 You actually see the past. Good point. What you see is a slight delay you determine the future by seeing the past so like when we it's easy to understand when you look at
Starting point is 01:34:10 outer space and things are thousands of light years away we're seeing it that took the light right right right right the one that gets me though
Starting point is 01:34:18 Ian to your point though about you know you can sense when someone's about to speak the one that gets me and having you know so we've got you, I've got two little kids.
Starting point is 01:34:28 I've got my wife. My wife's parents live with us. We've got a big household, right? Cass Castle, right? Big household, right? But when you walk into a place and you know that it's empty, right? And you know that no one's home, right? You can sense it. You can sense that
Starting point is 01:34:47 I am in an empty house right now because there's something, and it's not just the noise. It's not just the, you know, it's, it's, there is a lack, right? There is a lack of spirit. There is a lack of, of sense. And you know that nobody's around. And then I'm the one who's paranoid and walks room to room to make sure no one's hiding in there. Well, yeah, I mean, I still do that, obviously. Psilocybin really created like a differential between living and non-living to me. Like I see these water bodies in action
Starting point is 01:35:15 and then I see solid walls and I'm like, wow, we put this stuff here like a set piece. And we are very different than the set piece, that's for sure. But it blends in when you're not, when the psilocybin is not in my system. It starts to blend in and I just see everything, you know?
Starting point is 01:35:28 So we got to go to Super Chats, but I want to make one point too because we were talking about time as we're falling through the dimension of time. We can't move. And I was just thinking like, Ian, you mentioned what if when time reaches the apex, it becomes weightless. And then once it reaches the other side, it gets pulled back into the direction and everything rewinds rapidly. And then I was like, I was just thinking, or there's a brick wall and the universe is just falling in. Yeah, that's what I'm wondering, because there's no way to know. If we're all moving at the same speed, we wouldn't know it's moving
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Starting point is 01:36:34 Vanessa McCarthy Ledesma says or is that what it says in reference to yesterday's IRL if you made a $2 version can you call it
Starting point is 01:36:44 TimBuck2s I like that a lot a $2 version, can you call it Timbuk2s? I like that a lot. A $2 version of what? I don't know. I think it was your money. Oh, that one. You have it right in front of you there. The Timrocks.
Starting point is 01:36:52 Oh, Timrocks. That's right. Timbuk2s. Timrocks, yeah, yeah, yeah. Timbuk2s. Oh, that's right. I mentioned making Timbuk2s. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:56 I was going to make Timbuk2s, yeah. All right. Albedam says, happy MAGA month. Tis the time to kiss hands and shake babies. Exactly. That is right. I throw my babies up in the air constantly. I teach them balance and all that.
Starting point is 01:37:12 They can catch themselves. Trip Suck says, Ian is on fire this week. I'm Catholic, but Seamus makes it sound crazy. Jesus walking on water is not literal. He was showing us we could reach a higher plane, our full potential, be better, ascend. P.S. Catholic
Starting point is 01:37:25 means universal. Oh, well, there you go. I love making sense of past stories, that's for sure. John Kirsten says, starting MAGA month with my birthday. Full American flag outfit with We Are Chained shirt. By the way, Poso, not liking cargo shorts is un-American. Still love you. Cargo shorts are not allowed.
Starting point is 01:37:42 When was the last time you wore cargo shorts? Probably the 90s. Yeah, dude. That was great. Oversized t-shirt too? Oh, yeah. 100%. Yeah, I had the chain.
Starting point is 01:37:50 Remember the chains? Oh, yeah. That you wore on top of the t-shirt, obviously. Oh, dang it. Yeah. All right. Kyle says, Tim, get someone on to talk ESG and how it's destroying the economy and forcing corporations to go woke.
Starting point is 01:38:01 Also, graphene is a cult. You want to hit up James Lindsay? We should have him back on. I mean, ESG in general, though, it's... So we say get woke, go broke, but that's actually not right. It's more of a tease. Right.
Starting point is 01:38:16 It's not a law. And so with the ESG system, and this is starting to fall apart, and that's why we're seeing the economy overheating and the fakeness of our economy is coming apart at the seams. It's similar to the Cantillion effect, which is this idea that this French economist came up with in basically the Middle Ages, right? And he realized that whenever a new gold mine was discovered somewhere in the kingdom, that it wasn't the people who lived around the gold mine or even
Starting point is 01:38:45 the people who discovered the gold mine were the ones that benefited. The ones who benefited from the new gold or the influx of new gold into the system were the ones closest to the throne. And so this is the same thing you see now because with money printing from the Fed, which is essentially what it is, and Spike was talking about it the other day, that they've taken all the brakes off of this. And that is disintermediated now through the big money market managers. So your BlackRock, your Blackstone, Vanguard, State Street, those corporations, they get the money first, essentially from the Fed and banks in general.
Starting point is 01:39:20 They get it. And then the way they dole it out to other companies is not based on your shareholder value, which company is doing better. It's through this ESG system, who's being the wokest out there. And so you're getting your fresh injections of capital through this overheated funny money because you are meeting your woke quotient. So when Netflix puts out a movie like this, or when Disney puts LGBT scenes in Lightyear, kicks out Tim Allen, or Tim Allen, then you're increasing your ESG score. That's why we're getting this. All right. Raymond G.
Starting point is 01:39:53 Raymond G. Maga Stanley Jr. says, Shane, at first I was skeptical about Inverted World, then listened to The Corpse That Danced in Hell's Kitchen. I loved it. Loved them all. Great stories. Thank you. We were just talking about the Irish mob before we were filming. That's the story with the Irish mob. That story was pretty amazing.
Starting point is 01:40:09 The Irish mob used to... You know that part of... Not to get super into it, but that part of Philadelphia that everybody shows the videos of, that overpass, and then you see the fentanyl zombies just shuffling around under it. You haven't seen these videos. It's called Kensington. Just look up Kensington, go to image search, and you'll see
Starting point is 01:40:24 exactly what I'm talking about. So this, it's, and they go viral every time they're posted. Well, that area in Philadelphia used to be called the Kensington and Allegheny intersection. So it's called K&A, right? That used to be, those streets used to be run by what was called the K&A gang, and that was the Irish mob.
Starting point is 01:40:42 And you may not have liked the Irish mob's methods or the K&A Gang's methods, and that's why they got broken up the same way the Five Families got broken up, etc. But I tell you what, those streets were clean when the K&A Gang was around. So Tales from the Inverted World, the new episode, just went up. Oh, sweet. So this, I think it did, right? Yeah, should be up by now. So for those unfamiliar, you went down to Georgia looking for some gold to steal.
Starting point is 01:41:07 Shout out to Clint Brantley. I'm sure he's watching, and Harry and Tammy. I live down there. I don't think I've ever written a book that's changed me as much as this book has. But I saw a UFO. I don't know what that was. It was just a UFO, but I remember I messaged Tim at night. Freaking out.
Starting point is 01:41:24 I was freaking out. There's a good scene of that where you see me messaging Tim freaking out, probably episode four or so. I go down there looking for the lost Confederate gold. This is a town where the Confederacy was dissolved by Jefferson Davis. He was on the run after the end of the war after Richmond burnt down.
Starting point is 01:41:40 The gold had been lost. There's a lot of different theories about it. I think I come to a conclusion. But I got derailed by major TV networks and people with... Witches? Witches, ghosts, skeletons. Death threats.
Starting point is 01:41:53 There's death threats. Someone threatened to kill you. Yeah, yeah. Well, there's two, really. Oh, okay. Two people threatened to kill you. And it was the last six months I spent going back and forth in this town.
Starting point is 01:42:04 Does witchcraft always involve blood? Well, there's blood magic. The good witches don't like the blood magic. Yeah, I don't like blood. Yeah, we observed people who do blood magic. And this is interesting. I wonder what Jack would think about this. There's Catholic witches, Christian witches.
Starting point is 01:42:19 Nope. I asked them. I'm like, how do you balance that? Because you're not supposed to worship another thing. Because I walk in and I meet two witches, and one's juggling shark teeth and the other's praying to Anubis, and I'm about to walk into a hole to a graveyard. Santeria is similar to this,
Starting point is 01:42:40 where it's a mix of voodoo beliefs and Catholicism. You do have mixtures, but it's a mix of voodoo beliefs and Catholicism. You do have mixtures, right? But it's not Catholicism. And the Catholic witches were mad at the Christian witches. Did they have Protestant witches? I didn't meet them. No, but I mean like the Catholic ones. But that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:42:56 Did the Christian Protestant witches break away from the Catholic witches? And there was witchy and Luther with the 99. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's awesome. But yeah, go watch the new Tales from the Inverted World.
Starting point is 01:43:09 So is the show, you had a camera crew? Tell me you had a camera crew. No, no. Man, I want to see this. I wish. But no, it's me.
Starting point is 01:43:16 I spent, because it would be like nine hours of me talking to like the mayor or the witches running a hotel or all these people. But I would, you know,
Starting point is 01:43:23 I spent a lot of time talking to all these people. But I spent a lot of time talking to all these people. And I feel changed. This is a book I've always wanted to write. Not about this exact topic. I didn't know that. But I love Civil War. I love the paranormal stuff.
Starting point is 01:43:36 And this town delivered everything. So the book is coming out in a couple weeks. Yeah. What's the name of the title? The book will be uh ghost of the civil war and that's just volume two okay yeah so like the last book we serialized and it was just different essays they were all standalone essays like the corpse uh in hell's kitchen was one thing and then we did like a simulation story for another um but this one all takes place in this
Starting point is 01:43:57 town and uh you know i spend the night or a few nights with this one family on their land where they think maybe the the gold could have been. We sneak into cemeteries looking for gold. We were talking about – Wait, wait, wait. Did you find the gold? I can't say that. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:44:13 No, no, no. You would know because the FBI would come and steal it. Yeah, right, right, right. Because that was happening at the same time. You know what we want to do is we want to make a sort of like horror thriller anthology sort of based off these books because it would be so legit. It's like the X-Files. That's great. Yeah, that's great.
Starting point is 01:44:29 Hunter S. Thompson meets the X-Files. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's how I felt. Yeah. All right. So we'll read some more Super Chats. But when the book comes out, we'll definitely have Shane back on and we'll be showing it for sure and putting it everywhere and trying to get you to buy it. All right.
Starting point is 01:44:41 Let's see what we got here. Redneck Italian 1982 says, I wanted to share. I kicked off MAGA month right today is my 40th and I'm at the field of dreams watching my two sons play America's favorite pastime while lighting things off and drinking beer
Starting point is 01:44:54 thank you for all you do Timcast I am glad to hear it but MAGA month is not just about American flags and drinking beer and grilling
Starting point is 01:45:02 it's about doing right by your communities, cleaning things up, inspiring young people. Maybe you've got like a big brother, big sister kind of thing where you could find some at-risk youth who need some leadership. Maybe you've got a dirty highway you could clean up. Maybe you just want to put on a grill for your neighbors and bring people together.
Starting point is 01:45:21 All of that is good. Friendship, like Jack. That's right. Or even just, I used to call this, also, by the way, Tim, I forgot to mention that because you were so upset that I didn't have my profile picture up earlier with the flag, on time, right? On Tim's schedule. That's right.
Starting point is 01:45:40 That we've got- Immediately, first thing in the morning, on the first day of. We've got the bandana. We've got it out. We're going all, we're going hardcore. Got the USA shirt. But, you know, I actually, we called this, this was something I was talking about during the pandemic, but I still want to do it. I call it local patriotism.
Starting point is 01:45:57 Right. Find those businesses that, you know, those small businesses that are independent, that are in your area, and just support them. Right. Those small businesses that are independent, that are in your area, and just support them. Just go out there and say, you know what? I want this to continue, and I want this more than another Panera Bread. And nothing against Panera Bread, but just this is someone in my community that's trying to make it work, and we're better if we support those things. And do so, obviously, while wearing your American flag. What do you think would happen if I opened a woke restaurant and then enforced policy based on woke ideals?
Starting point is 01:46:28 Like, if you're white, you have to go to the back of the line. Do you think that would be allowed? I mean, technically, that would be illegal. Right. What if I created, like, a... So I would sue you very fast. A POC and non-POC seating in my restaurant. Yeah, also illegal.
Starting point is 01:46:40 That's so strange that the woke people do all of those things. Right. It's funny. Right. They've brought segregation back, but it's good segregation now, so it's better. people do all of those things. Right. They've brought segregation back, but it's good segregation now, so it's better. Alright, let's read some more. Kyle Bigelow says, you talk
Starting point is 01:46:52 and talk about reforming governance as though you've never met Michael Malice. Well, I don't agree with Michael on everything. I think he's certainly smart and he's changed my opinions on some things, and I'm not an anarchist. I think Michael is an anarchist, for sureael is he's an anarchist for sure he wrote the anarchist handbook and then i i voiced um uh who was the who was the the the essay yeah
Starting point is 01:47:13 yeah um prudhomme prudhomme there you go yeah that's funny because he's like a leftist anarchist so michael thought i guess he thought it'd be funny if he had me he was like i'm gonna get the best chapters to be read by like the people that it's funniest to do or something like that. I mean, or it really is a great book of essays that you should check out. Michael is a very, very smart guy. Oh, brilliant. I'm going to agree with everything on him. All right, let's see.
Starting point is 01:47:35 Nathan Tankersley. Tim Poole for 2024 president. Now we're talking. No. Did you imagine, dude? So I will say this. I was ragging on um was it shelly moore capito yes the republican senator from west virginia who signed the gun control stuff oh yeah
Starting point is 01:47:52 yeah yeah and she's just a nasty awful person and i will not forget what she did but i had someone be like why don't you run against her and then i was like that will literally never happen and they're like you know you'll win right and i'm like, I will never go anywhere near seat of government. Yeah, we got a new way to influence government. Then you'd have to be a senator for six years. I mean, theoretically, I could run, win, and then resign. Well, then the governor appoints. Right.
Starting point is 01:48:19 So you don't have anything. You have any say if you resign. That would just be terrible. Yeah. But you could make a deal. Right. You could make a deal with the governor at that point. I don't know if you're allowed to actually do that. As long as it's not money.
Starting point is 01:48:31 No, no, no. Not a monetary deal. I'm saying that you need to support this. To be fair, if you're a senator, you could do nothing. I mean, many of them do nothing. No, that's just all the senators. Right. I mean, as opposed to what?
Starting point is 01:48:46 Just don't do anything? Yeah. Which lobbyist donated the most to the campaign? All right, yeah, go with that. That's a good point. Because if your campaign was, I will literally do nothing, that's better than what we got now. Do you think that they don't listen to each other? Is that the problem, that they're all trying to talk?
Starting point is 01:49:02 They don't listen to the people. So the reason Shelley Moore Capito signed the gun control bills because she's not for re-election for for what five years four four four five four years i think so she doesn't care that her consultants probably said listen in four years everyone's going to forget this happened no one's going to remember it then you can come out and throw some red meat at republicans and they'll vote for you again and she's like they are dumb pieces of crap aren't they gun control what a piece of garbage. I can't stand these people. I would imagine.
Starting point is 01:49:27 That's exactly what she did, too. I think you're right. She talks like that. To be in Congress would be really boring because you'd have to listen to everyone gets their time to talk. But when they talk, they decide to read something. And then they're not really charismatic. So you're like, oh, I've got to do this all day.
Starting point is 01:49:43 So do you wonder why then it is that a certain type is attracted to that as opposed to somebody who may actually have more talent or more interest in the actual, you know, running the policies of running our country. Right. So there is a certain type that totally understands. Right. How much what the job entails and craves it more than anything else. That's who's in our Senate. That's who's in our Senate. That's who's in our house. All right, let's read some more.
Starting point is 01:50:08 Jonathan Arnold says, Tim is correct on the double-slit experiment. I'm a professor of physics. Yes, my opinion on the double-slit experiment actually comes from more than one physics professor because I remember watching the movie, What the Bleep Do We Know? Oh, I saw that, yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:21 And it's a bunch of new age mumbo jumbo where the guy's like, the double-slit experiment. Dr. Oh, I saw that, yeah. And it's a bunch of new age mumbo jumbo where the guy's like, the double slit experiment. Dr. Quantum, yeah. Dr. Quantum. And then I was like, whoa. And then I went to actually some universities. I was hanging out and I was in LA.
Starting point is 01:50:35 And this physics guy was like, let me explain for you why this is mumbo jumbo. Oh, that makes sense. Like, I get it. But I like the observer interfering with the process. That's an interesting concept. Well, the point is, it's the process by which we observe causes the interference. It's not profound.
Starting point is 01:50:52 It's like slapping the table with a ruler and the ant runs the other direction. I notice that when people are talking, if I don't look, and it's a different conversation, as soon as I look at one of the people, the conversation gets, like like jarred and yanked into some new form. That's just because of how you look. Well, that's true too. Shrek Media Only says, if prayer worked, then Donald Trump would be president.
Starting point is 01:51:11 I disagree. The first time he won, you had the power of meme magic. People were going online and they were all laughing and joking. And there's a simple answer to the meme magic stuff. Tons of people were having a laugh.
Starting point is 01:51:22 It was a party. It was a joke. It's like, you could join the fun. Just post a Trump meme. That's effective messaging. They didn't have it second time around. So, or the more magical is that everybody was so hyper-focused, they manifested President Trump. All right. John Shaw says, I'm 21 years old. We are not doomed, at least not myself and my peers. We're very stoic and optimistic. We desire and commit
Starting point is 01:51:48 to authenticity. I believe there is so much to look forward to. Just look at DW and Timcast. More to come. That's right. The Daily Wire gained 300,000 subscribers in like three months. Yo, that's nuts. That's crazy. Glad to hear it. Signed Jordan Peterson. Jordan Peterson's going ham
Starting point is 01:52:04 right now on twitter he's like i'd rather die than delete my tweets he i i watched that video he posted where he addressed it it's like a 14 minute talk yeah he was going hard he's an he got angry he was like oh i was just like yes for him good for him dr peterson things change and grow like laterally now maybe they always did somewhat but i used to think things would grow vertically, like a company would get bigger and bigger and bigger. But now things get bigger, but they also get wider, faster, because the internet virality. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:52:36 All right. It is now. Now it says, love you, Tim, but you were so wrong in the double slit. Uh-oh, someone just said I was right. Look up the delayed choice double slit. It has such immense implications about our reality. It's mind-blowing. Look into Tom Campbell's book, My Big Toe.
Starting point is 01:52:50 Well, all right. I'll check it out. I love that stuff, man. When I was younger, I would, back before YouTube, well, YouTube was around, but there was Google Video. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would go on Google Video and look up physics and just watch physics professors talk about the craziest stuff. And that's what I would watch before going to bed. That was back in the day, man.
Starting point is 01:53:08 It was fun. I'd watch it and I'd make a YouTube video. Hi, that was what I would do. Some of it was just like awkwardly boring. But then like you'd think it would be boring where it's like a guy. I'm like, well, you have to understand with the edge of the event horizon and I'm watching and I'm like, what? And then within minutes, I'm like, whoa. I think that person said the delayed choice double slit.
Starting point is 01:53:30 What they meant was the delayed choice quantum eraser because I can't find delayed choice double slit. All right. Kaslan Bukart says, Jack, I'm pro-life, but I'm concerned over the overwhelming amount of misinformation around Roe, especially with ectopic pregnancies and miscarriages.
Starting point is 01:53:48 How do we as pro-lifers health influence the change of culture around abortion? I mean, it's going to – you have to do the work, right? You just have to do the work, right? Obviously, there is a sea of misinformation on this topic in general. People talk about it in emotional terms. But I think what even the comment just before when they were talking about authenticity, it's just break some of this down, right? With some of these pregnancies, the number one reason that people get abortions is elective right now, by far, right? And so do not allow something that is 1% or 2% or less than 1% of outcomes to dictate our policies.
Starting point is 01:54:29 Justin Allen says, my first super chat ever. Canceled Hulu, Disney, ESPN, HBO, and subscribed to Timcast and Daily Wire. The episode with Stephen Marsh was one of favorites. I always share your videos. Keep up the good work. Really, really do appreciate it. Yeah, so one of the challenges we have right now is like obviously our flagship program for TimCast is literally TimCast IRL. The members-only videos are somewhat topical and relevant to the time period in which they are talked about because it's politics.
Starting point is 01:54:56 Many of them aren't. What we want to do and one thing I've been thinking about and I'm going to be talking to Shane about because we have talked about doing the conspiracy talk show. So we have Pop Culture Crisis, which is pop culture. It's a similar format to this. What I want is we could probably do this. We need to talk about it. But a similar talk format show. You've got your deep investigations where you're like, go down to Georgia.
Starting point is 01:55:18 We're planning the next book already. But how could we do a show that's evergreen, talking about mysteries, conspiracies, aliens, ghosts, psyops, governments, and all this stuff, something that people could watch forever? Yeah. You know, and so that's what I want to do. That would be great. Because I know you were working on it before.
Starting point is 01:55:37 Yeah. It's just balancing all these things make it difficult. Yeah, that would be great. We had a good, I mean, Ian was on the members only for Inverted World. We got into some of that stuff, and Chris Carr, our great who's been hustling on on me sending this book to him um we we went pretty pretty hard on conspiracy theories and like yeah i mean maybe totally do that maybe this is just what we need to figure out we need to figure out maybe if it's once or twice a week you doing like an hour talk show with a couple people similar to this so we have
Starting point is 01:56:03 inverted world the front-facing show which is the book and the podcast which is your investigations and then the members only stuff like the streaming video on demand show is the conversations around all the crazy stuff there's enough out there to talk about yeah they keep coming true so let's do it that'll be fun all right m shiba says in the anime simphagir they have the concept that those stories and myths being told throughout the centuries whether they were true or not could will them into being reality oh that's fun i just finished watching attack on titan season four that's a fun show as well gotta love it attack on titan's legit if you're interested in the culture war have you seen it i've talked about this before. It's a weird show.
Starting point is 01:56:46 Like gigantic naked monster people eating other people. Didn't they do a live action one? That's stupid. Yeah, it was really dumb though. But the anime, it's actually really simple. There was a meme where an AI Jordan Peterson said to watch it. But if you're interested in the culture war, one of the big themes about it is the sins of the
Starting point is 01:57:01 past. A group of people who are condemned because they were oppressors. And so everyone's like, you're the evil oppressor and you have to atone for your ancestors. And that's like a big theme of the show.
Starting point is 01:57:10 Oh, wow. So it's like very culture war-esque. There you go. Except people are flying around with like shooting cables and then slicing monsters and turning into them and stuff.
Starting point is 01:57:20 I was doing that earlier on the radio. That's right. That's how you got here. That's how you got here. That's how you got here today, yeah. Yeah, the ODM gear. Jack used it and he swings through the trees to make it here.
Starting point is 01:57:28 All right. Lone Wolf 36S says, something to chew on. If we are inside the wake of a black hole, it would appear to us the universe is expanding. But really, it's just that light takes longer and longer to reach us until there's no more light from outside. Whoa. That proves it. Is he a doctor of physics? That is evidential.
Starting point is 01:57:48 I like the idea that we're in a black hole. I think it might be twisting, too. It looks like it's expanding because it's bending. It's bending. Wow. All right. Let's grab some more stuff here. The Wombolt says,
Starting point is 01:58:01 As a Shane myself, who loves the oddities of cults and witches, would give my left hand to work with Shane. Two Shanes? We can only have one. Too many Shanes. We would use the hand to create another Shane and then... We do need... We need Shane's hand for that?
Starting point is 01:58:19 We're trying to find a writer to do the smaller stories. So when Shane's doing the deeper investigations, there's day-to-day stuff like a UFO report comes out. The congressional hearing they just had. Exactly. That would have been a great one. I don't buy any of that. No, but getting a reporter to be like...
Starting point is 01:58:35 Not the government stuff that they're pushing. Getting a mysteries reporter to talk about these stories. Just straight objectively. Yeah. They're shorter. They're not in-depth. And then that person could theoretically do the conspiracy talk show with you guys. Oh, yeah. And I had another idea for a show, too, was Collins, Ghost Story Collins shows.
Starting point is 01:58:54 Oh, yeah, that'd be fun. They exist. There's a bunch of them. Like Coast to Coast. Like Coast to Coast. Yeah, those are fun. Those are fun. Super fun.
Starting point is 01:58:59 So these are the things we want to figure out. It'd be really cool. I love when people call in and tell their experiences because there's so many stories out there that are amazing. I did a road trip across the country once and all we listened to the entire way was people calling ghost stories. And some of them are like, come on, come on. Some of them are really cool though.
Starting point is 01:59:16 And it's literally just someone being like, so I'm in my house and a guy hung himself here. When all of a sudden the door slams and I'm just like, oh, what next? What next? It's like the most nonsense, like, like it's meaningless. None of it matters, but just want to know what happens, but it's relatable, right? You know, it's like Jerry Spence, you know, the lawyer, the defense lawyer, Jerry Spence guy never lost a case. He wrote books about this. You know, he had a whole thing where he said, you know, if you're, if you're going to try a case about, you know, it's, it's, you have to, you have to put the
Starting point is 01:59:44 person in the car, right? If you're, if you're trying to case about case about, you know, you have to put the person in the car, right? If you're trying a case about a car crash, don't just tell the jury, hey, there was a car crash and it happened on Tuesday and the road was slick. No. Put them in the car. Give them the story and make it relatable. And that is something that's going to be compelling and pull somebody in. So the fact that, and this is why Paranormal Activity was such a popular movie, because it's
Starting point is 02:00:08 just what happens in your house when you're asleep. Right. I want to say, so Puppets in Politics is how can one apply for Mystery Reporter? Send an email to jobs at timcast.com. Send writing samples along with it and any relevant information. I don't
Starting point is 02:00:23 necessarily, I don't personally care too much about resumes. I don't know what you think, Shane. Resume is useless. The writing is what matters. Right. Send in some writing samples and then have a conversation. And the reality is, the unfortunate thing is, a lot of people don't want jobs right now, but of the jobs people want, they really want to work places like here in the Daily
Starting point is 02:00:41 Wire because we're culture warriors. We're trying to do cool things. We're trying to challenge the machine. So it's almost like a lottery ticket. We get 10,000 plus emails every month or something more, and it's just not possible to read every single one. But we'll start looking into it, and we'll have Shane start getting through it. Yeah, writing samples would be great. Send those.
Starting point is 02:01:00 I never look at resume stuff. And that's the one thing we really got to launch too because at first we wanted Tales from the Inverted World to be more interactive with the audience. Yeah. But ultimately discovered we got to focus on the heavy hitting stuff like you writing a book and then getting the stories out. Yeah. But I think the VOD version will be the long form show, hour long conversation. Oh, yeah. We definitely got to do that.
Starting point is 02:01:24 Yeah. I mean, even if we did it once a week, definitely something we could get people to sign up to become members for. And then, you know what the Daily Wire is doing with their movies? Tear on the Prairie. It's kind of obvious, right? What was the other movie they did? Run, Hide, Fight.
Starting point is 02:01:39 Run, Hide, Fight. But there was the one with the woman in the room. You know, being locked up. Yeah, locked up. Yeah. One of the things they're doing is they're buying movies that they can afford to buy, But there was the one with the woman in the room. You know, being locked up. Yeah, locked up. One of the things they're doing is they're buying movies that they can afford to buy, and they're producing movies that are rather simple but good stories. So Terror on the Prairie, look, it's costume, it's drama, but it's like in an open field,
Starting point is 02:02:00 so it's relatively low budget to produce. But they make a good, compelling story, a movie worth watching. Because you've got to work with what you have. We're doing the same thing. I'm hoping that in five years, the Daily Wire is bigger than Disney. I'm hoping that we are as big as the Daily Wire or actually bigger than they are at the same time and that there's going to be more companies like ours who aren't going to be producing garbage, woke crap. I will say what you do want is preachy ideological content. However, you don't want woke preachy ideological content. You want things that represent your values. An example is Matt Walsh made a book called Johnny the Walrus.
Starting point is 02:02:33 It's preachy. It's got a message, but it's a message you like. So I think that when people say like, I don't want politics in my TV show, and I'm like, no, that's not the case. You want good values in your TV shows, and you want the substance my TV show. And I'm like, no, that's not the case. You want good values in your TV shows and you want the substance of the story. I don't like it when like Orville makes an episode that's so on the nose. It's like, we get it. The lady's Trump. Seriously? Come on. Add a little nuance and a little metaphor to that. So you want it to not be nothing but preach, but you want your values represented in it. So that's what I'm hoping to do and become a member at TimCast.com. Let's grab one more.
Starting point is 02:03:06 Jem R. says, Did you see that Uganda found 12 trillion US dollars worth of gold deposits? What's the odds the West will suddenly be very concerned about human rights in Uganda?
Starting point is 02:03:16 Yeah. Ha ha. You heard it here first, folks. All right, everybody. If you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends.
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Starting point is 02:03:40 We are going to be fireworks, hot dogs. We're going to be doing all that good stuff. I hope you guys have a good weekend. Jack, you want to shout anything shout anything out yeah um look you guys know where to follow me human events daily we are hiring turning point usa is hiring uh you can check that on on the site also and not for myself to push out but my wife is the special guest on the podcast the spillover this weekend she's telling her story for the first time ever, escaping communism, growing up in the Soviet Union, coming to America. So you can find that on podcast, Spillover. And then we've also got Turning Point USA, SAS, coming up end of July.
Starting point is 02:04:17 Donald Trump, Ron DeSantis, same stage, maybe not the same time, but down in Tampa, Florida, tposa.com slash sasht. Use promo code POSO, all caps, 25% off. Awesome. I am really proud of this book, and I hope you guys will check it out. The first episode is up now on YouTube, Apple, Spotify. If you want to see witches pull demons out of the thin air and skeletons standing upright in the ground waiting to shoot the devil dead, and just hear really interesting stories about the war. I've completely changed the way I view a lot of the things that happened in the war and history in general. So please check that out, Tales from the Inverted World everywhere,
Starting point is 02:04:53 and I'm Shane Cashman everywhere online. Well, Ian Crossland, you guys know where to find me. I like how you said that. You know where to find me, iancrossland.net. Much love, Jack. Always great to see you, man. I'm glad you came in. You,
Starting point is 02:05:06 I love you, Don. I'm going to keep it family friendly because I'm about to swear up and down. I love you guys. I love you. Thank you so much for coming. I'll see you later. Thank you guys all for tuning in
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