Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #571 - Democrat Infanticide Position Escalating Calls For Civil War w/ Kurt Schlichter

Episode Date: July 14, 2022

Tim, Ian, and Lydia host author and lawyer Kurt Schlichter and editor-in-chief of the Post Millennial Libby Emmons to discuss the leftist witnesses that could not bring themselves to say infanticide i...s bad, Matt Walsh's inflammatory tweets about being unable to coexist with leftists, Salon's article saying Trump and his supporters should be prosecuted, the woke teachers red-pilling parents and turning them into a voting block, whether DeSantis could win over Trump in 2024, and Tim's op-ed in Newsweek after the J6 slanderous remarks on his coverage of the event. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:51 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. So pro-abortion House Oversight Committee witnesses refused to denounce infanticide in what may be one of the weirdest hearings i've ever seen they were just outright asked like how do you feel about it and they're like i'm not answering that i refuse i refuse the premise women are allowed to get abortions and it's like okay hold on a minute like it's not hard just to say no to this and apparently there were three witnesses that rejected this and so what's freaking me out here is now we got Matt Walsh, good friend Matt Walsh. He's posted the coming civil war
Starting point is 00:01:28 is going to be weird and that he can't live with these people. He doesn't care. He hates them. They hate him. We can't live this way. And this rhetoric isn't just coming from, say, Matt Walsh.
Starting point is 00:01:39 It's just he's trending on Twitter right now because of it. We have an article from, I believe it's Salon, saying that Donald Trump must be charged with treason. We have, I published an op-ed in Newsweek today addressing the smears and the lies from the January 6th committee about me. And all of this just says to me, Matt Walsh is right. I don't understand how, and you've heard me say it a million times, how we can move forward as a
Starting point is 00:02:05 country when you have people who outright will not just plainly say like, oh yeah, infanticide is bad. Come on. I think one witness did and three were like, I'm not answering that question. Why not? That's how divergent our worldviews are. We have that other clip from with Josh Hawley, where the professor outright refuses to say whether it's a women's rights issue on abortion and then talks about men getting pregnant. And there is just a divergent worldview that neither will accept. Now you've got 80 or so Democrats calling for Joe Biden to declare a health emergency, effectively to bypass state rulings on this. This country is on the verge of something truly crazy.
Starting point is 00:02:43 And I'm not the only person who noticed that abortion is a strong moral issue not unlike slavery that could be a catalyst for something substantially worse than the crisis we're seeing now maybe civil war i don't know but when people just across the political space are outright saying yes to this on both sides all right well i don't know to tell you other than something crazy is going to be happening. So we'll talk about that. Plus, you add on all of those challenges with a food shortage, with hyperinflation, you've got a recipe for very serious disaster.
Starting point is 00:03:16 So we're going to talk all about that. Don't forget to head over to timcast.com and become a member to support our work. We've got a ton of journalists that are working every day to fact-check all of the lies in the mainstream press and bring you news to the best of our ability that will be true and correct. And you'll get access to our exclusive After Hours show at 11 p.m. Those go up Monday through Thursday at 11 p.m., so we'd love to see you there.
Starting point is 00:03:35 And with your support, we'll keep doing more awesome work. So don't forget to smash the Like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. And without further ado, joining us today to talk about all of this is Kurt Schlichter. Hey, Tim. Thanks for having me. Who are you? Who are you? I'm a noted lawyer.
Starting point is 00:03:51 What are you doing in my studio? I know. Who is this weird guy? I am a noted Los Angeles trial lawyer. I am a senior columnist at townhall.com. I'm a retired United States Army infantry colonel. I want to emphasize I was not a judge advocate. And I am the author of a new book, which is conveniently placed behind me and discusses many of the topics that you've mentioned tonight, including national divorce, the possibility of civil conflict, and what we do about it.
Starting point is 00:04:20 We also got Libby. She's back. Hey, I'm back. What up? Super exciting. Libby Emmons, editor of Postmillennial. Oh, hello. Also, I'm back. What up? Super exciting. Libby Emmons, editor of Postmillennial. Oh, hello. Also, I'm Ian Crossland.
Starting point is 00:04:29 There you are. Good to see you, everyone. Good to see you, Kurt. Hey, great to be back. I'm hearing more about your book because I've been thinking this is like every day we talk about this almost. I mean, if it wasn't for the economy, I don't think that the moral stuff would be such a big issue. But because of this inflation, I'm concerned. Smirks over Weimar Germany.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I'm getting this 1928 vibe. Well, let's see. We've got hyperinflation, political chaos, bizarre perversions normalized. Yeah, I think you got a good... I think we ought to be on the lookout. I don't think that's crazy talk. Should we do an emergency food promo
Starting point is 00:05:03 while we're at it? I'm kidding. No, probably not. I think we're good on that count. I'm excited to be back. We love to have Kurt on. We're going to keep it kind of low-key this evening. Love to have Libby back, as always. I'm excited to talk about that this evening. Right on. Let's jump into this first story. We have this tweet from the Washington Free Beacon.
Starting point is 00:05:21 A pro-abortion House oversight witness refuses to say if she agrees with infanticide rep norman quote do you support infanticide killing a child after he is born witness i do not agree with the basis of that question but i do believe that abortion is health care i'll play you the clip but i want to show you this you scroll down a second witness refuses to say if she agrees with infanticide we don't have infanticide happening. What I think is, based on your question, you have very low opinion of pregnant people. Pregnant people? A third pro-abortion witness refuses to say
Starting point is 00:05:51 if she agrees with infanticide. Could you answer that yes or no? How you just characterized the representative statement is extremely inflammatory. Let me tell you something. We had this progressive on. And he kept saying that late-term abortion doesn't happen. Late-term abortion doesn't happen.
Starting point is 00:06:07 And I said, okay, I don't care. I'm asking you why Democrats tried to legalize that recently. Joe Manchin is the reason that didn't go through. And he just says, but it doesn't happen. Okay, bro, maybe it doesn't happen because it's illegal. Maybe it's not allowed to happen. Is that the point? And if Democrats legalize it, it will happen?
Starting point is 00:06:24 Let me play this clip for you, because I want to talk about how insane things are getting. I assume you agree with infanticide, the killing of a child, a perfectly healthy child at birth? I don't accept the basis of that question, but I do believe abortion is health care. I'm talking about do you agree? I know I get that, but do you agree? I mean, do you support infanticide, killing a child after he's born? I do not agree with the basis of that question. What's the basis?
Starting point is 00:06:54 I do believe that abortion is health care. Why is it so difficult to just be like, yeah, we shouldn't kill babies that are born? Okay, next question. Are these people considered witnesses right now? They are witnesses. I'm not sure they're question. Are these people considered witnesses right now? They are witnesses. I'm not sure they're sworn. Are they allowed to be treated hostily?
Starting point is 00:07:10 Of course. Why don't they say, I'm going to treat this person hostile? You mean cross-examine them. He's trying to. Look, they've obviously been highly prepared. Look, when I get a witness on a stand, they're highly prepared. I always have a jury there, right? So the jury's seeing things. There's no jury here.
Starting point is 00:07:29 This is all political propaganda. And what they want to do is avoid making any concession to normal people about the normal idea that you don't kill babies, okay? Not a radical notion, but they can't say that. They don't want a clip of one of them out there going, you know, I think you'd be wrong if you killed a baby. The other part of it, too, is they would have to if they wanted to say that infanticide was wrong. Right. The next question would be at what point in birth, at what age does the infant have to be during the gestation process for it to be infanticide? So that's part of the issue. We've had these conversations with people on this show
Starting point is 00:08:05 and they just refuse to answer and there's no answer. And I've asked, we had a progressive and I said, okay, there's two women. They got pregnant at the exact same time. The babies have gestated for the exact same amount of time. Eight and a half months. One woman gets a C-section.
Starting point is 00:08:21 The baby is pulled from her womb. The other woman does not. can you abort the baby in the womb they say yes they're like well yeah it's a woman's choice it's a woman's choice what about the baby was born no that would be wrong and i'm like okay wait what why well that's a big concession that's that's exactly what they didn't want to answer in the house today they don't want to have to say what abortion actually is which is killing a baby they don't want to say to say what abortion actually is, which is killing a baby. They don't want to say it. I have a lot more respect for people who say I'm in favor of abortion
Starting point is 00:08:49 and abortion is murder. Because at least that's totally honest. I don't know if I have respect for them. It's like you're a terrible, terrible human being, but you're at least not lying to me about that particular thing. And you're not lying to yourself like
Starting point is 00:09:05 these people are lying to themselves no i think that's wrong because they don't believe any she knows what infanticide is she knows what a woman is but do you know why they refuse to answer because they will be attacked by the left oh yeah because the goalposts move so rapidly on the left that their their allegiance is to the cult and not to any morals. So they're probably sitting there thinking like, if I say I oppose this and then in a week we're in favor of it, I'm going to get canceled. So I better not say anything other than whatever the approved line is. And there is no cohesive value system. So there's nothing to base these judgments on. It's what needs to be said. Look, the left could just as easily have been radically pro-life if that was to their advantage.
Starting point is 00:09:49 They could be saying, we are not going to allow you to murder young babies, future Democrat welfare recipients. We are not allowing that. That's horrible. That's terrible. You're human life. But they don't have kids. Well, there are reasons why they chose to go that way. But don't, I mean, the idea that some sort of moral choice of theirs,
Starting point is 00:10:11 they would have gone the other way if it was useful to their agenda. And has been in some countries. Maybe, maybe, but I think it's useful to their agenda, not in the way you're saying. It's useful to their agenda because they don't like people, because they want to reduce the amount of people. Well, that's true. This is the funny thing. There's a meme.
Starting point is 00:10:29 You are the carbon they are trying to reduce. But hold on. Bill Gates literally wrote that. I think it was in Reuters in 2018 saying poverty is expanding because poor people are having kids and we need to give them birth control to stop this. And I'm like, they're quite literally saying less people because it's causing climate change so these these democrats don't want people the problem is when they are more likely to sterilize their kids more likely to abort their kids and conservatives are not the future is conservative it's just a simple mathematical equation are you you? No, you're right about that.
Starting point is 00:11:05 And I think if you watch this, they are conceding that normal people will find their beliefs repellent. Right. Now, even 30 years ago when you had Bill Clinton and you had people thinking, well, safe, legal, and rare, which was a brilliant formulation. Even gently pro-life people could go, well, you know, at least he's thrown on all a branch. At least he says, you know, we all agree that this is a disfavored thing. I had a leftist friend go, Kurt, no one is for abortion. Well, that's, we now know that's uncure. That's no longer true. Can you show them the Lena Dunham quote where she said she wished she had an abortion?
Starting point is 00:11:44 Well, there's that. She doesn't have a child. She just wanted to kill one. And there was also, there was Lindy West, right, who came out with that book Pro, and it was like, we are pro-abortion. That's what we need to start going with now. But these people, when they're doing politics, not in their own personal echo chamber, they are trying desperately not to show normal people what they really think. Because you go out to a normal person, one who may be a little bit kind of, well, you know, she's gotten in trouble. It's the first few weeks. I can deal with that.
Starting point is 00:12:14 But you go, yeah, you can abort this kid pretty much until he gets his driver's license. And they're just going, what is wrong with you? No normal human being says eight and a half, eight months, three weeks, and go ahead and abort. No normal person. They're like, what are you talking about? That's crazy. That's way past the point of viability.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Well, it's insane. Yes, it's insane. But their logic forces them to accept it, but they can't say it out loud. I think it was Vosh, and I think it was on this show. He was asked, I think it was when we had Charlie Kirk and Vosh on, when does life begin? And Vosh said, sometime after birth. Yeah, I think so. Right, that's insane.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Noted theologian Vosh. That sounds like a misspeak if he said that. No, it's not. You're obviously alive when you're born. No, they genuinely, there have been arguments from more extreme pro-abortion individuals that memories don't form until three months after you're born. Oh, it's now memories. So you have memories in order to be alive.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Well, I want to clarify that because these are the same people who insist we eat bugs so we don't slaughter cattle and pigs. Are pigs and cattle alive? Well, it's not about that. It's about climate change. Well, it's about power. They're not saying to eat crickets because they want to save the animals. I mean, some people are.
Starting point is 00:13:29 They're saying cows fart too much. Like AOC put out that thing where it was like, farting cows. So they put crickets in your food. But of course, the real reason they want us to eat bugs is because it's degrading, humiliating, and we enjoy eating beef. And that we are peasants and we need to suffer. I disagree. I disagree. I think it's actually much, much simpler than that.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Crickets are cheap. Crickets are cheap and if you can start a cricket company... They're not that cheap. I used to buy crickets for my Euromastics lizards. Damn things all night.
Starting point is 00:13:52 They'll be cheaper once they're mass produced. Listen, listen. Do you know how long it takes to raise beef cattle? It takes a while. A couple years. I was talking to the farmer
Starting point is 00:14:00 and I said, you get all this beef. They got tenderloin and stuff. It's amazing. I love it. And I said, how long from the cow being born to they're ready to be chopped up? And they're like, two years.
Starting point is 00:14:09 A cricket is like a week. And so you get a big vet. You mass produce garbage, cheap protein crickets. And here's what happens. You're like, not only is it cheap to make, but it's easy to pulverize, produce this food. Now you need to convince people to buy it. It's cheap to make and there's an opportunity to invest.
Starting point is 00:14:30 So people like Bill Gates, I don't know if he's doing this, but they invest in cricket production and then they start dumping money into news programs being like, oh, you gotta eat the cricket. Everybody's gotta eat bugs. Their companies start doing better and better and better. And then they put out videos of Nicole Kidman eatingman eating bugs and everybody yeah what did you call it
Starting point is 00:14:47 after tom cruise it's the second weird no i i i think i think we're overlooking the remember uh marxism this whole leftist woke thing is really a psychodrama, and it's about their feels. There is a certain joy in compelling other people to do degrading things, and it is degrading to eat bugs. Steak is the food of a citizen, of a proud male or female, a proud human being. And bugs are what you give to servants and serfs. And they get off on that. You know what I love?
Starting point is 00:15:27 There was like a post where someone said, 80% of the world eats bugs. No. And then it showed, well, it showed people eating bugs. And then someone responded with like, the reason they eat bugs is because they're poor. Well, yes. It's like, to the extent they're not, you're not saying they do it because they're proud to do it. They're doing it because they have no choice. To the extent that they're slurping up millipedes like the dogs in Lady and the Tramp. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Cricket does not taste good. No. We had cricket. It's not good. It's nobody's first choice. The first choice of any human being is a delicious grilled ribeye. Ribeye. Tenderloin.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Man. I would say pasta. Oh, my God. Carbs. Glut I would say pasta. Carbs. Glutens. Every time. Be gone with ye. I had a filet bouillonnise
Starting point is 00:16:15 on some pasta last night. And let me tell you, I needed a cigarette and a cuddle after I was done. Kurt, you said that the left could easily have just been anti-abortion. It would have been useful to them. Do you think that this iteration of the left, meaning, I don't know how you would define it exactly, is it like a communist radical attempt at an overthrow of the current state of governance?
Starting point is 00:16:36 I think it, you know what I think it is? I think it is a bunch of perpetual Wellesley sophomores living out their daddy psychodrama issues and the guys who are trying to have sex with them. And I think that that is really the essence. I think it is a, I think they are, there's a space in everybody to be filled with some sort of spirituality. You know, maybe you're a Christian, maybe you're an Orthodox Jew, maybe you're just kind of spiritual in general maybe you have some sort of rational
Starting point is 00:17:06 belief system that doesn't involve a God but you fill it with something that's not crazy but if you don't fill it with something that's not crazy it gets filled with something that's crazy that's why these guys have this religious mindset, complete with heretics us, we're all heretics
Starting point is 00:17:23 they'd happily burn us and sacraments like abortion. But this is why apostates are so bad and heavily targeted. People who are like, they really don't like people who were woke and then walk away. Look, you were associated with the left. And they hate you. So Prager, you had that Dave Rubin thing, why I left the left. And then I told him, I was like, you got to make a video called How the Left Left Me.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Yeah. And I was like, because my position stayed basically the same. It's like that Elon Musk meme that was actually a Colin Wright meme showing how the left has just continually gone insane. And the infanticide abortion thing is the perfect example. A year ago, they were like, it's not happening. You're crazy. Now they're like, I'm not answering that question.
Starting point is 00:18:08 I refuse. Like, we are inching towards them to where they get to the point where they're going to be like well you call it infanticide but if the child is is malformed or it has it's or inconvenient you know like you know it's crazy to me there's a meme i see these leftist posts and it shows a like a slum house covered in graffiti and a child sleeping on a scuzzy mattress. And it said, just because he was born doesn't mean he was saved. And I was like, are you advocating for killing that child? Like it's all it's. Are you saying it shouldn't be alive? This is the thing.
Starting point is 00:18:36 This is the thing they always say, right? It's like, oh, you only care for children before they're born. But if you would care for them afterwards, we wouldn't have to abort them. And it's like, what are you talking about? And there's i have to kill him you don't care you don't care well you know it may be a little rude to our leftist friends but you know marxists murdered 100 million people in the last century that's inconvenient those are there's a there's a they're just cambodians right i love this there's a meme from uh existential comics or existential comics that i see posted all the time and it's like it says something dumb it's like we're made to believe that communism is bad because a famine
Starting point is 00:19:08 happened once and i'm like yo once how about every time 100 million dead right man these people are absolutely insane but let's get to the the the escalation of this by throwing it to our good friend matt walsh matt walsh tweeted these hearings on abortion are instructive the liberal witnesses have refused to condemn infanticide refused to define the word woman and claim that men can get pregnant we cannot share a country with these people there can be no unity they are lunatics and monsters i don't respect them i have nothing in common with them i detest everything they believe and stand for they feel the same about me we simply cannot go on this way matt previously had tweeted we are a nation divided over whether pregnant men exist the coming civil war will certainly be the weirdest one in history
Starting point is 00:19:53 so it may be a bit silly a lot of people keep denying the reality of what's happening in this country but um i i don't think matt's wrong when he says he detests them i certainly believe he does but they feel the same way about him they certainly do so at a certain point we are inching towards what many people refer to as at the very least peaceful divorce peaceful peaceful i have a chapter of that in my book right there we'll be back for on rise of america i have to mention it like every time because otherwise regnery will keep my family hostage. But so real quick, I want to ask you about that. But we talked about this a while back, that abortion could be the moral catalyst like slavery was.
Starting point is 00:20:36 And some people might not think so. Maybe, maybe not. It could be a combination of things. I think it's possible that we're in the Bleeding Kansas phase of Civil War. That was the – Not quite. We're not shooting yet, but I do talk about Bleeding Kansas. Aaron Danielson was shot twice in the chest in Portland.
Starting point is 00:20:52 That's true. Not in a systemic way. I don't agree. I think the issue is when you look back at Bleeding Kansas, this was an era where we didn't have the kind of communications or technology we had. So people are more tactful in their strategies for warfare, which is they're trying to manipulate people to gain public power and access to resources, and direct violence doesn't work as effectively, or it's not effective at all these days in most circumstances. So when you look at the past several years, when you look at the 529 insurrection, when leftists broke the barricades down in front of the White House, set fire to St. John's Church,
Starting point is 00:21:30 torched the guard post and forced the president into a bunker, and then the media defended it. I pulled up an article from 529. This was mind blowing. And it said that the Democrats wanted an inquiry on the police actions. That's right. After the left firebombed a church and a guard post and the president was forced in the bunker, the Democrats were like, we need to know what the police were doing. Well, and they did do that investigation. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Yeah. And then you get January 6th, which is all of a sudden now it's the apocalypse. I feel that, look, for those that don't know, Bleeding Kansas was a territorial, it was Kansas, there was a civil war effectively within the state over whether or not, Bleeding Kansas was a territorial, it was Kansas. There was a civil war effectively within the state over whether or not it would be a slave state. And it never stopped.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Bleeding Kansas didn't end. The Civil War just started. No, no. Bleeding Kansas, I talk about in there, was essentially dispersed, decentralized cavalry units raiding various civilian outposts. And there were a large number of deaths. Look, you are right that the predicate condition does exist. That is people in significant numbers accepting the use of intimidation and violence to affect political change. And we see that.
Starting point is 00:22:39 We even saw it this week with, you know, I'm going to go get in Kavanaugh's face as he's eating a ribeye. Because ribeye is, of course, fantastic. They're in a tenderloin. And they get in his face. Now, if you get in someone's face, you're not persuading him. You're trying to force him to go your way. You have left politics.
Starting point is 00:22:58 You have left persuasion. You have left, you know, the system. You're now using intimidation. So if you get in his face, where is the moral guardrail that keeps you from slapping his face to make him do it? And if that doesn't work, where is the guardrail that keeps you from shooting him in the face? There was an assassin. And there was. There was. So you are correct.
Starting point is 00:23:20 There are a significant number who are accepting the premise that you can use violence to affect change. Keep in mind, 50 years ago, we had a low-grade urban insurgency. We had the Weather Underground, Black Panther, Simbini's Liberation Army, death to the fascist insect. Greatest, greatest tagline for a revolutionary group ever. And it was treated as a law enforcement matter. But there were bombings all over the place. Read Days of Rage. Bombings all over the place. A large number of killings. It was as a law enforcement matter. But there were bombings all over the place. Read Days of Rage. Bombings all over the place.
Starting point is 00:23:46 A large number of killings. It was suppressed through law enforcement. But that was a very low-grade type of insurgency. When I talk about civil war, and I discuss, I have two chapters. I discuss red against a blue government, blue against a red people, or a red government. You know, there is a spectrum of conflict but you are correct about the predicate which is people accepting the idea that violence is an acceptable means to affect political change and unfortunately there are a number of people on the left who do that i i don't
Starting point is 00:24:19 know how great that number is doesn't matter how matter? It does matter because if it becomes, if it starts getting 40, 50%, then you've got a real problem. How many people fought in the Civil War? See, that's when it becomes 40, 50, 60, 70, 80%. 10%.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Yes, but the people supported them. Who would fight, though, in our situation? Like, who would be out there fighting? So the question is, like the Patriot Front versus Antifa? That's Bleeding Kansas level.
Starting point is 00:24:46 That is Bleeding Kansas, and that is one of the things. Small, informal militias battling it out. What's the government do? Does the government send in the calf? Yeah, we have been seeing that. No, but not in large... We did see... It does exist in bits and pieces, but it's not systemic.
Starting point is 00:25:03 We had rioting in Portland for 120 days. Yes. Firebombing federal buildings. Yes, correct. We had since, when did it start? 2017? Oh, yeah. The battle for Berkeley.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Right, right, right. The Chaz in multiple cities. Even until recently, you had the autonomous zone in Minneapolis. Look, people were shot and killed. They lit up a white suv with like hundreds of rounds of five five six because teenagers were in it and they heard a fake report on the radio from cops that white supremacists were going to come and attack them look there are the conditions are i don't think there's a massive in provo ut, Utah. Right. I think Provo is a city.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Yeah. A BLM ran up, a supporter, ran up to a car and shot a driver for no reason. Yes. These things keep happening. They exist, but they're not systemic fighting of the kind that we saw in bleeding Kansas, but they could become it. And right now, they're in urban environments where you have a unique set of conditions. You always have a DA who won't prosecute. You always have a weak
Starting point is 00:26:10 government. You always have a police force that is unwilling or unable to take action. And interestingly, even when they were talking about sending in military forces, and I was part of the military force that suppressed the L.A. riots. So I have seen this in operation. I've seen it happen. I was part of it. You have governors who simply will not cooperate with that. That's where it starts to get crazy.
Starting point is 00:26:39 It does start to get crazy. We haven't got there yet. My contention is we could get there i'd like to take the off ramp and not get there what's the off ramp yeah what is that well look the the obvious off ramp is to convince enough uh convince a critical mass of americans to go back to uh essentially the rule of law in the constitution but can we do that and they disagree with the premise of the constitution well how many do we're going to find out we read all these assumptions they talk about this all in school right because thomas jefferson was a slaveholder and so we have to disrupt yes they do and they want to they want to increase the number of people who have this uh disgusting
Starting point is 00:27:20 marxist critique of the uh constitution yeah and and and if succeed, yeah, we're going to have a real problem. And those people all get book deals. What's his name? Like, Elie Mistal or that guy. Who's going to read Elie Mistal's book? Well, he's all over MSNBC. All the time. Yesterday.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Who watches MSNBC? A lot of people do, right? Weirdos, losers, and mutations. I don't know. What they should do is go get my book. These are the people who you're saying we're going to be fighting, right? The people who watch MSNBC. MSNBC's ratings are like 100K.
Starting point is 00:27:47 It's like really abysmal. And then it's like people in their 60s. So yesterday, I pulled up an article explaining the sentiment for union support for the Civil War. And you know what the view was, at least according to this historical reference? The view was the union thought the Confederacy had been taken over by a conspiracy of elites that were subverting the constitutional rights of the people and that they had to free these states from an elite conspiracy they they believed that uh these elites were denying personhood rights and i said oh that sounds like something a Trump supporter would say about today,
Starting point is 00:28:25 that Democrats are subverting the constitution, locking down churches, that they're denying personhood to babies. I was like, it's not one for one, but there's a parallel. The reason why I say bleeding Kansas phase is not to claim that literally bleeding Kansas is happening one for one, like it's identical. It's that we're in the escalation of conflict pre-civil war, which eventually, it's the. It's that we're in the escalation of conflict pre-Civil War, which eventually, it's the violence that occurs before a formal Civil War. And the reason why I say that, for one, everything we've already said, but my point is, we can't expect everything happening now to be identical to what happened back then for a variety of reasons. I mean,
Starting point is 00:29:00 technology is one. The other issue is that we are not arguing over which states will enter the union and support a cause. We're talking about which states already do actively support abortion to the point of birth or even after birth, like Virginia tried to do with Northam. Those states are already ideologically in those camps.
Starting point is 00:29:19 So it's looking more like a Spanish Civil War or maybe akin to... No, it's ideological. It's not geographic. So you've got war or maybe akin to no it's ideological it's not geographic but it's becoming geographic although i don't see us as phalangists it's becoming geographic take a look at minneapolis so we talked about the other day there's a video you may have seen of the fat old dude in tighty-whities twerking in front of the little girl and a woman walked up the little girl and waves and no motions a little girl the little girl. And a woman walked up to the little girl and waves and motions to the little girl and the little girl waves.
Starting point is 00:29:48 That happened in public. In full view of parents, they wanted the little girl to engage with it. But I guarantee you, if I give that video, if I took it and I went to an advertising agency and said, I want this. It's a pride event in public with families and kids. It's wholesome.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Nobody's nude. They're all fully clothed. And I want it on a billboard in Times Square. They would say, get out of this building. This is disgusting. What are you doing? But why is it then that it would be allowed in public in these cities? Where are the people like us that would say that's bad to actually be on the ground in those places to tell them to stop? Why is it that Libs of TikTok posted this video? A father said, I'm going to read for you this book. And the guy said, you can't read that. It's illegal.
Starting point is 00:30:31 And he said, but it's in our schools. Why is it that these things are being allowed to happen? It's because the culture in these places has moved to a degree where they accept these things regardless of law. When the law stops being enforced, and that's what we're seeing, then eventually you'll see similar arguments we saw in the Civil War, which is why are we party to a country in which the law is only enforced against us but never against those who wrong us?
Starting point is 00:31:02 Look, you are absolutely correct. You're talking about the predicate conditions for civil conflict. And one of them is a dual-track justice system, which we are seeing in space. I mean, look at the J6 people. That's just, you know, guys sitting in there in jail for a year and a half. Where's their speedy trial for their misdemeanors? And it is unsustainable. Now, how are we going to solve it?
Starting point is 00:31:28 Well, one way to solve it is political action. We either have courts that stand up and do the right thing, or we have elections where we take power back and the next president pardons all these guys, or we go outside the political process and outside the political process which is where you've accurately pointed the left is gone well that that could be really scary and there is a continuum of that there is a continuum of of civil conflict and i look i and it worries the hell out of me because as you know i served in Kosovo, served where there was a civil war.
Starting point is 00:32:05 We were in the ruins of it. And I would walk through ruined villages. And I remember one village, it looked like it was just blown down, just bombed down. And I said, wow, I told my Muslim interpreter, man, this is horrible. But I don't see any blast marks, any flame marks. And he said, no, no, no. The enemy of this town came here with crowbars and sledgehammers and literally disassembled this town into wreckage. That was the level of hatred.
Starting point is 00:32:31 I was reading about the French Revolution. And I was reading about Robespierre and Danton, I think, you mentioned. And the crazy thing about it is that, correct me if I'm wrong, because I think you were reading about this. It was basically a bunch of people terrified of each other thinking, if I don't kill them, they'll kill me. It's usually what it comes to. I think Robespierre eventually turned on his brother in arms, which was Danton. The two of them together sparked the revolution. And then Danton just was like, hey, Robespierre, you're becoming too much of a cult leader.
Starting point is 00:32:58 It's not about you. It's about the revolution. And Robespierre was like, I'm a better speaker than you, and you'll be executed. And then nobody would stand up to defend him. There's a quote I read. They said they cared less about their convictions and more about presenting their virtue. That's like what's going on now.
Starting point is 00:33:14 They feared that if they spoke up and said this is wrong, they would be condemned along with him. And he was executed for it. Danton was executed. And that's when I was reading into this because I saw a quote from, I think it was Plato maybe, where he said something. What's the quote? I tweeted it.
Starting point is 00:33:29 That the penalty for refusing to be engaged is to be ruled by evil men or something to that effect. And then I remembered the quote from Danton. What did he say? Oh, it is better to be a fisherman than meddle in the government of men. Or a poor farmer. I think he said poor farmer. Fisherman. Fisherman was it? Yeah. Accentuating the poor in poverty than to be meddle in the government of men. Or a poor farmer. I think he said poor farmer. Fisherman was it?
Starting point is 00:33:45 Yeah. Accentuating the poor to be in poverty than to be meddle in the politics. And so I was like, pick your poison. Right. Do nothing and be ruled by evil.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Meddle. Get your head chopped off. And so I started reading about Danton and Robespierre and it really like, I read a cursory article talking about it and it was really
Starting point is 00:34:01 very much like these disparate factions were all, it was a mexican standoff they were all staring at each other like which one is going to be the one that tries to kill us next so then they were like sounds like the spanish civil war on the communist side yeah because when they weren't fighting franco's guys they were killing each other i mean in in probably why frank ended up winning right franco did franco won pretty darn decisively. And that is one of the problems of the left.
Starting point is 00:34:27 When they're engaged, you've got to win or you die. For kind of the conservative side, they don't really want to be engaged. So it's not, you know. Forrest Cooper brought this up. He said that the people who are good at violence don't want to be involved in it, and that should tell you something. That is true. The guys who have seen it, who have experienced it, who are trained in it are like, please stop.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Please stop. One of the problems with the left is, well, I mean, look at the Evalde footage of the cops. That's devastating, right? That's so devastating. Cops milling around. That's one untrained little mutant, 18 years old, not tactically proficient. He's got a weapon, but there's like 20 of them. And they won't rush him. What are they going to do about 400,000 guys who are trained and who are ideologically committed and who aren't 18?
Starting point is 00:35:28 Even if it's 2,000. You ever tried building a house of cards? Even five. What would they do against five guys? Look at what happened in Boston. Two mutants, two little mutants. That's right. Shut down Boston. Two guys with handguns and the occasional pressure cooker bomb shut down Boston.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Have you ever tried to build a house of cards? You know, you get plenty of guys. It's tough. It takes a lot of time and energy. And then someone can go a tiny, tiny and the whole thing comes crumbling down. My point is, it is extremely difficult to build
Starting point is 00:36:01 a complex machine. It is extremely easy to disrupt one. I look at it as a Jenga tower. You know the little game. You have little blocks. And the leftists, first of all, you've got to understand, the leftists, our ruling class, inherits this Jenga tower. They didn't build it. They're cultural trust fund babies.
Starting point is 00:36:18 It was handed to them. They got their credentials at Harvard, and then they took their jobs running the institutions, which they have no particular appreciation of or even understanding of. They just got it, and they use them for their own power. And they think they could pull out these things from the Jenga Tower because it never, never occurred to them how hard it is to build that tower, and it never occurred to them that it could possibly collapse.
Starting point is 00:36:41 But it can. And that's been going on for a long time. Yes. It's been going on since the 70s. There's this great play by Jules Feiffer called Little Murders. And I don't know if you know the play, but everything's getting destroyed in New York City. And it's this wild story where the police are trying to figure out who,
Starting point is 00:36:59 there's like a shooter. Every time you go outside, people are getting shot. The murders are just skyrocketing as they were in New York City. And you have the police being like, this is a conspiracy to make the police look bad because we can't figure out who's killing everybody. But one of the characters is finally just like, destroy, destroy, destroy. When are you going to find time to build? And it's like all of these people have taken over the institutions. Camille Paglia talked about this as well. She said the real Marxists went out and lived on
Starting point is 00:37:26 communes, and all of the fakers ended up in the universities. That's true. That's absolutely true. Do you think in the age of bug protein, they're not going to be able to get themselves a top sirloin? They're going to be able to.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Hunter Biden is always going to be able to get a top sirloin, and a nice piece of ass. It's always going to be vit to. Hunter Biden is always going to be able to get a top sirloin and a nice piece of ass. It's always going to be vitally important that Leonardo DiCaprio fly to Davos to lecture us on our carbon footprint. I want to bring up this article here from Salon. Oh, boy. Was this finally enough? Trump and his terrorist confederates must be prosecuted. Trump treason is trending. Our treason is trending, and it's about Trump, and this
Starting point is 00:38:08 is one of the articles. I don't care to read the article for the most part. It just goes through January 6th stuff. It shows people who testified. It says enough is enough. We've heard this. We know what Trump has been planning. Trump called for supporters, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:38:20 It doesn't matter what the sentiment is beyond. You right now have prominent media outlets, politicians, demanding that the other side be imprisoned, prosecuted, shut down. They're irredeemable. I mean, we've heard deplorable, and that was a while ago. But now it's irredeemable, insurrectionists. People have been – Christofascist. Christofascist. Christofascist. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Exciting, yeah. They're saying the other side is evil and we know it, and they have to be stopped. There's no negotiating with people who believe this. No, you just have to beat them. In what, elections? Well, you can beat them in the political process. Hopefully that's the way you do it.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Look, I mean, in the book i talk a lot about ancient rome and there's some some parallels there you know instead of fighting you know up the course of honor to become consul or quest or whatever you know it's a lot easier just to you know charge your opponent with treason get them out of the way right and chopping that off using the law enforcement apparatus to go after people and this is what the january 6th is they but is it will republicans ever do anything of course they won't uh i i don't know i think that look when john cornyn uh collaborated on the stupid gun control thing there were 14 hour republicans who joined him, 15 Republicans, right?
Starting point is 00:39:47 On the recent gun thing. The bipartisan sellout thing, safer communities. Total garbage. And, of course, there's a killing the next day. Yeah, of course. It would have been 35 10 years ago. The Republican Party, because there has to be a party of the right, and the party of the right is going to be ascendant because of the insanity of the left. Although, I'm not sure. It looks like insanity to normals. To us, it looks like a plan.
Starting point is 00:40:17 And also their failure to run the institutions correctly. $7 gas, just intolerable. They're moving to the right, and the Republican Party will become more conservative. And the Democrat Party is going to face a choice between going even more hardcore progressive or doing what they had to do after eight years of Reagan and four years of Bush II, which is go more moderate. It's a 50-50 government. It's always 50-50 because there are two parties the republic the democrats unless they want to be out as long as they want don't want to be out
Starting point is 00:40:51 of power they're going to have to moderate if they're happy to be a uh a rump resistance and let the uh you know right wing rule then they won't have to change i think the issue is the younger generation is particularly more partisan and more zealous on both sides yeah but that's always true so why would someone whose world view uh matt walsh for instance to go back to what he said that we don't agree that we i despise them they they feel the same way about me in. It's one thing when it's the 90s and you can see the political overlap, according to Pew, and it's like moderate
Starting point is 00:41:30 overlap in their worldviews. Today, it's completely disparate. Today, it's parents who are bringing their kids to drag shows and parents who think that's child abuse. The kids who grew up in these houses are never going to go and agree with that. I mean, mean look when you get to the
Starting point is 00:41:46 point where an old man in tighty whities is twerking to a little girl and they're cheering for and waving to him and the rest of the country thinks it's like a criminal offense the kids who are raised in these environments are going to be even further away from each other well and they're not even going to know where to find it they're not going to know where to find values or morals or something different than that i was at uh left and they're not even going to know where to find it. They're not going to know where to find values or morals or something different than that. I was at...
Starting point is 00:42:08 On the left? Yeah, they're not going to know where to find it. Well, the kids... Like, where are they going to look? But it doesn't matter. Right, but they wouldn't even know if they wanted it.
Starting point is 00:42:15 They don't have them. They don't want them. They won't want them. They will grow up around all of that stuff, debauchery, and think this is fine. And then people on the right will have traditional
Starting point is 00:42:25 american values and they'll be like these people are out of their minds i think i think the one thing that's missing is i don't think i think a lot of kids will grow up and think that it's not fine and they're not going to know where to look to find the thing to fill that total void that's you know just all depravity they're not going to know where to look i think conservatives have done a really poor job in saying you know over the over the past, like whatever, 50 years saying, oh, you don't want our values. Okay, you can do whatever you like and not taking a stand and not saying, you know, yes, we do need to have a moral structure. We do need to have this civil religion where we do have shared values. It's at the point now where like when I talk to people, we don't even have the same value
Starting point is 00:43:06 system. We don't even agree on how to conduct ourselves in public. Well, Libby's right because I do think there is the potential for the next generation to embrace actual real values. But it is, you know, I look, here's my example. Remember 10 years ago when we were told that Latinx Americans were going to be the Democrats' way to future dominance, that this would be a subservient, poor caste that would forever belong to the Democrat Party, living on scraps from the Democrats, and lo and behold, 50% of Latinx, and I just love that word. I just love Latinx.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Or is it Latinx? Latinx. Honey, what do you think? I thought it was Latinx. I don't know. Latino, Latina, Latinx. Yeah, I'm joking. I just like saying Latinx.
Starting point is 00:43:55 I just like to see somebody. Professor X. I want to see a couple of leftists fight it out with poll cues over the pronunciation. But regardless, the Latinx Americans did not cooperate. Half of them are now Republican, according to polls, because they didn't want this stuff. And they didn't want to be poor. And they didn't want to be subservient. And they didn't want to be serfs. And I look, I think they're, yes, we need to reach out to people because we've done a terrible job. Right now, the Republican Party is gliding along going, look at that desiccated old fossil masquerading as a president oh man that's great
Starting point is 00:44:29 he's terrible we're gonna win but what are we offering we need to offer culture we need to we need we do need to offer culture and i think and god yeah we don't want i don't want cults telling you what god is you just got to feel it because it's there it's vibrating like it is judging it is you you are you're feeding it and it's there. It's vibrating. It is judging. It is you. You're feeding it, and it's creating you. We don't need to be ashamed of what we believe in. A lot of times it's like, well, you know, I'm religious, but you don't have to be.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Hey, I'm proud to be religious. Look, I tried tolerance in the sense that everything was okay, and now they're trying to groom my kid in kindergarten. All right? Figuratively, I don to groom my kid in kindergarten. All right? Figuratively. I don't have a kid in kindergarten. But a lot of people do. And that's when the whole tolerance thing changed.
Starting point is 00:45:10 They are grooming kids. Yeah. They're not trying to. They are actually doing it. I keep referencing- Some kids resist. ... working for a little girl. But look, the thing is, we need to stop with this fake, everything is cool.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Everything is not cool. It is not cool to have drag queens in schools, ever. I don't care if it validates you. I don't care if it's important to your emotional well-being. It's weird and it's creepy and you're not grooming my kids. Conservatives basically embraced relativism. Yes, and that was a mistake. That was a huge mistake.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Because what we're offering is the opposite of relativism. We're offering a set of values that is proven over time. Which will help you determine meaning in your life. Exactly. And a set of policies. Yes. Look, we know how to fix crime. Rudy Giuliani did in New York City.
Starting point is 00:45:58 He did a great job. Remember New York City in the 80s? It was crime city. We know how to fix the economy. Reagan did it and Trump did it. In a couple of years, both of them had it city. We know how to fix the economy. Reagan did it and Trump did it. In a couple years, both of them had it booming. We know how to do this. How do you fix the border? We know how to fix the border. How do you
Starting point is 00:46:12 fix the military? We did it after Vietnam. I know. I was the beneficiary of it. I write about it in the dang book. We know how to do the policy stuff, but we need to get away from relativism. I'm not ashamed to say my values are better than the values of a bunch of weirdo perverts who are trying to go out and groom on kids. My values are
Starting point is 00:46:32 much better than people who want to kill little babies. My values are better, and I'm going to fight for them. I'm a big fan of utilizing science to prove the existence of God, because I think that people of all persuasions can agree when you look through a radio telescope what you're looking at for the most part, unless you're blind, unfortunately, but we'll fix your eyes. And you start to see these frequencies moving in almost this intelligence of nature. Like it's becoming, even Einstein, I think the more scientific he became, the more he started to believe in God.
Starting point is 00:47:05 I think by the end of his life, he actually believed in a God, even though he wasn't necessarily religious of any kind. That was true with a lot of philosophers as well, who like Kant, embarked on this whole conversation about essentially saying that there wasn't really a higher power. But he himself believed, and he believed at the end of his life as well. I think there's a survey that found most scientists believe in God or something like that. And then you have all the people who are like, there's no such thing as God. It's a simulation.
Starting point is 00:47:32 And you're like, oh, okay. Then who made the simulation? Exactly. Well, no, the argument, I love the simulation stuff because it's like the questions that philosophers and theologians have been asking for thousands of years
Starting point is 00:47:44 are being asked for the first time by simulists who don't know they can find the answer to many of those questions in existing philosophy and theology. Well, of course. Or at least find the conversation. Well, of course. And of course, they think they've been educated because they have a degree from an Ivy League university and they come out and they are ignorant of their culture, their history, their past. If you're ignorant of those things, you're going to be vulnerable
Starting point is 00:48:09 to any nonsense. What did Prager call it? Cut flower politics or something like that? Was that cut flower? Where he's like, you can snip the flower off from the stem in the pot
Starting point is 00:48:17 and it looks beautiful and eventually it dies. It's cut from its roots. I think because these people have been emotionally disenfranchised, maybe they're psychoactive, in the water supply, plastics, God knows what. But they need to see the math to believe in a God.
Starting point is 00:48:33 They're the people that will put an arm in a frozen chamber to watch it get frostbite, to learn about frostbite. And those people need science. That was an interesting thing because there's this crazy Japanese science fiction book where the guy eats himself methodically. Yeah, he's like a cannibal. He eats himself. He eats himself one piece at a time.
Starting point is 00:48:56 It's very Japanese. No, I was going to say it's a very interesting leap from the start of the segment on Trump being arrested for treason to a guy eating himself. It's not as weird as the tentacle stuff. This is a spectacular book, actually. Yikes. A woman ends up criminally punished for having done something, and she gets planted in a park like a tree.
Starting point is 00:49:15 And her family comes to visit her, and she's a tree. And eventually, she's just this- A tree? She's a tree. Okay, that's weird. Are you talking about Junji Ito stuff or something? I don't remember who wrote it for a while i was really obsessed with uh japanese fiction and i read like all of kobo abe who i think is just stupid brilliant like so amazing
Starting point is 00:49:35 but the to your point about science i was teaching um catechism at my church for a while and there'd always be like a couple kids who were there whose moms are just making them go and they're like i'm an atheist miss libby i'm an atheist and i'd be like okay you could be an atheist that's god doesn't exist there's no afterlife and i'd be like okay so you're an atheist so you're into science and stuff yeah you know and i was like okay so if if energy can't be destroyed or created what happens to your energy after you die. And that would always, and I mean, it's very simple. It's like nothing, right?
Starting point is 00:50:07 And they'd always be like, oh, I wonder. And I'd be like, yeah, go wonder and I'll see you next week. And we'll talk more about, you know, the gospel according to Matthew. So there's like a resistance. So what is going to happen
Starting point is 00:50:20 to bring it back to what we were originally talking about? We're looking for solutions, the off ramp. I think it's God. We need meaning. People can start to believe and not feel bigger than their own body. But this is, you're jumping so far beyond. It's like, you may as well just say, this problem will be solved once everything's good and the problem is solved.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Well, no. Getting people who are in a cult to break out of that cult is the challenge. But, okay, the problem is when people try and do it by telling them Christian God, because they're very resistant to... But that's not what we're talking about. That's not what's happening. What's happening is beyond the religious. Now, certainly, these people are inferring religion on a lot of these issues.
Starting point is 00:51:00 It doesn't have to be religious. But I don't understand what you're talking about. We're talking about science. I'm talking about unification. What does that have to do with what we're talking about what is that about science i'm talking about what we're talking about conscious unification we need to bring people together okay so let's let's slow down you have a faction that's in a cult you look at these journalists like the nbc news team is fantastic you run their twitter accounts through ground.news bias fact checker and it's like 100 left wing they don't consume or interact with any
Starting point is 00:51:23 news that comes from the right none so they're in a bubble that's why they believe kyle rittenhouse lies covenant catholic lies that's why they believe jesse smollett how do you get people out of a cult well we know how you have to physically separate them from the cult and then help them re-acclimate to normal functioning society or entice them to physically separate themselves. Well, that's literally what I just said. You just said remove them. You said physically remove them. Yes. You could do that.
Starting point is 00:51:50 You could take a kid that's in a cult and put him in your car and drive away. Bro, this is nothing. You're making sense. There's multiple ways to get people out of cults. The point is that people need to be separated from the cult. Period. I get it.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Get the semantics out of there. So people have to be separated from the cult. The problem is they have cell phones, and the cell phones keep them attached with like an have to be separated from the cult. The problem is they have cell phones. The cell phones keep them attached with like an umbilical cord into the cult. That's like Charlie Kirk said today, digital pacifier. Yes. Whenever they're presented
Starting point is 00:52:13 with information that would shock their system, they start breaking down and they retreat back to the cult and say, give me the things I need to believe. How do you break someone out of a cult when they're wired into it? That's the challenge. Believing in God is irrelevant.
Starting point is 00:52:28 They're in a cult. You won't get them to believe in God or find anything or self-reflect or even take psychedelics so long as they're in a cult. But they're wired into it. You can alter the well of the cult. You can change an entire cult's belief system. Well, that's what we're trying to do, right? I mean, that's sort of what we're out here trying to do. Like, hey, look at it this way, guys.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Look at it this other way. You're looking at it from this very biased perspective. And, you know, it can be a little bit of, like, I got my mom to stop watching Rachel Maddow, and then I got her to stop watching CNN. And now she says things like, I'm proud of you. And it's like, whoo, whoo. It's amazing.
Starting point is 00:53:04 It's brand new. My friends, please please there is one thing you need to do to any one of your family members that is in the cult that believes cnn believes brian stelter don't get mad at them don't argue things with them just send them the twitter video from libs of tiktok of the old man and tidy whitey's twerking for the little girl. That's it. Just send them that. Say nothing else. And then just send them videos like that with nothing else. Don't say Donald Trump is good. Don't make points.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Don't give your opinion. Just show them a video because they'll pull it up without knowing what it is, and they'll press play and go, huh. Remember, it's very hard to convince people, but people do convince themselves. A lot of people leave cults. A lot of people chose to leave Scientology. A lot of people chose to leave, was it Keith Raniere, the NXIVM? Is that what it was? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:54 They left. They eventually looked at it and it occurred to them, no, there's something wrong. So a significant number will leave on their own. We're talking the hardcore ones who are first in line to get the Kool-Aid. But a significant number will leave. And a lot of conservatives are former left. I don't know a lot of leftists who are former actual conservatives. The bulwark guys don't count.
Starting point is 00:54:20 The issue is don't message your family members saying, hey, you need to watch this video for this reason. Don't do any of that. Because we learned this from Brandon Strzok. He said someone sent him a video. Now, in his instance, it worked. But he said someone sent him a video. And he was like, I don't want to watch it. I'm not going to watch it.
Starting point is 00:54:37 He has a really interesting story. And then he said, you know what? I'll watch this to prove them wrong. And the video woke him up. So the issue is, when you send someone a video as an argument, many people will resist and be like, no, I'm not watching your argument. But if you just
Starting point is 00:54:51 send a family member a video saying nothing, they might just go, what is it, and press play and then they see a fat old man in tighty-whities twerking for a little girl and people cheering and clapping for it and they go, what is this? Then you can tell them what it is. It's clear.
Starting point is 00:55:06 And it's like their spirits like, oh, my God, what have I been doing? Here's what people need to understand. When we are growing up, we are building a worldview in our minds. And by the time we're around 24 to 28, our mind has solidified on our worldview for the most part. And this is a survival tactic in evolution that if you have made it this long, what you did works, don't deviate, you have learned. When people are then presented with worldly information that contradicts their worldview,
Starting point is 00:55:37 it is a threat to them, which is why they get angry and shut down or have panic attacks. We have heard it over and over again from people like Brandon that when they were finally exposed to undeniable information, it was physically painful. They felt physical pain.
Starting point is 00:55:53 It was like something was being purged from them. People will resist that pain like a drug addict, which means you have to be careful, tactful, and precise when you're talking to them, when you're sharing information with them. If you approach someone as an enemy, they will shut down. If you approach them as a friend, they will open up. So don't argue with your family members, insult them, listen to what they say and what they're concerned with, and then be like, wow, I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Check out this video, and then just send them the torquing man. You don't have to agree or disagree, too. You can understand something without agreeing or disagreeing with it. Well, remember, you're not using argument in the traditional way. Look, when I go to a court, when I'm doing a case, I've got 12 people and they've got to sit there and the judge will yell at them if they're not listening. So they have to at least receive it.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Whether I can convince them or not is a different question. That's the power of my evidence, power of my presentation. Tim's absolutely right. When you're trying to convince somebody to get out of the leftist cult, you have to let them want to do it. Remember, there's a lot of pride. Because if you find yourself in a position where you're defending tidy whitey guy twerking in front of kids, and you understand at some level that's bad, you're ashamed because you've done that. You don't have to
Starting point is 00:57:06 rub their face in it. Let them come around. they've got to talk themselves out of it. A lot of times they don't want to, right? It feels good to be in a situation
Starting point is 00:57:15 where everyone agrees with you. It is. For boomers, that Tidy Whitey video is like a giant red suppository. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:23 It ought to be. Quite the pill. It's a painful wake-up call for a lot of peopleository. Right. No good. It ought to be. Quite the pill. It's a painful wake-up call for a lot of people. A lot of people didn't know it was that bad. Yeah. And exactly. We've heard that where people have told us like, oh, my family member says, that's not true.
Starting point is 00:57:35 That can't be happening. We had Richie McGinnis' mom, old school feminist. Yeah. And we're sitting here and I said, feminists are pro-war. And she was like, no, they aren't. And then I said, okay. pro-war and she was like no they aren't and then I said okay let's clarify then the people who wore the pink pussy hats
Starting point is 00:57:50 are substantially more likely to be the ones waving the flags of Ukraine advocating for US intervention in Eastern Europe into war and she went what and Richie her son says yeah actually that's true and she's older and so I said listen i think the issue is
Starting point is 00:58:05 you're older you're kind of tuned out to what's going on in the world and the younger generation is on the battlefront that you aren't watching so you can't believe any of these things happen but you need to listen and watch and look through the window and see what's out your front door and tidy whitey man is that cold slap in the face for the boomer generation. Look, anything that involves kids is really going to be the nitrous oxide that you add to the supercharger and the engine just goes way into the red. I mean, the idea that Virginia, which is a blue state, would put somebody like Glenn Young yunkin who is a fairly conservative guy he's not you know 180 pounds of miracle whip stuffed in a five thousand dollar suit like mitt romney is okay i mean he's he's actually a miracle whip is a great insult yeah it's really nice he's not even
Starting point is 00:58:58 mayo mayo is a proud condom miracle whip he's just so basic but uh no he he's actually conservative and the people of virginia chose him and the reason they did it was you know kids coming home going mom dad why are you all racist yeah uh you know to me this happened like this happened after the george floyd stuff right and we were doing the virtual learning because of stupid COVID. And I heard an announcement on the classroom computer screen that there was going to be a two-day lesson on, what was it, systemic racism and white privilege. And I'm looking at that, I'm looking at my kid who I believe, what was it, fourth grade? Has it been that long? Who was like the only white kid in his class. We live in a very immigrant neighborhood in Brooklyn,
Starting point is 00:59:45 which I like my neighborhood. And he was like, I was like, okay, I'm going to record this whole thing. I put on the voice recorder for the full two days. I wrote about it. But afterward, I talked to my son about it, and he was like, mom, we're racist. And I was like, we're not racist, honey. And he's like, well, my grandparents are racist. I was like, they're totally not. My parents are not racist either well our great grandparents are
Starting point is 01:00:09 we went through the whole thing and i was like your great-grandmom taught at like integrated schools in brownsville brooklyn she was really proud of the work she did you know your grandma was a public defender in philadelphia she was like defending uh eddie africa and like all these guys you know like of the. Of the move guys? The move guys, yeah. Oh, God. From after the 78, the shooting. Yeah, the bomb and everything.
Starting point is 01:00:29 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that was in the 80s. Yeah. But I was like, we're definitely, we're not only not racist. Our family has a history of not really being that racist. Well, look, I didn't guess it. What are we doing? Yeah, working to not be racist.
Starting point is 01:00:42 You know, I was on with Prager the other day. He asked me an interesting question, you know, in connection with the book. He's like, a lot of people will, you know, accuse, you know, Kurt, your family served in the Civil War on the Union side. Your hometown was burned down by the Confederates. You know, you're obviously Northern European. People will call you racist, but you have this family history. How do you feel about that?
Starting point is 01:01:08 And I say, I said, well, I'm not responsible for my family. I don't get the glory of being part of the union because that wasn't me. And I don't have blood on my hands because that also wasn't me. What counts is the content of my character and that's it and that is the answer most normal americans will give and it's a very attractive answer well it's the american answer it is literally the american and normal people will respond to that if we get out there and say but there's so many people who are afraid to confront these little weirdos you know i don't want to get called a i don't want to weirdos you know i don't want to get
Starting point is 01:01:45 called a i don't want to get called a racist i don't want to get called a transphobe i don't care what people who hate me call me don't care at all should we have the government pay reparations to the descendants of people who died in the civil war to fight for the union so if like your you know great great great grandfather was a union soldier and he like, like, kissed his wife goodbye, and there's the baby. And then he was like, I am going to fight this war to free the slaves and end this moral abomination. Should the U.S. government be like, those people lost their lives and deserve payment? Absolutely not. No corruption of blood, no glory of blood.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Well, that's the point. Yeah, I agree with that. We have collective glory in the United States because we fought a giant war to end slavery. I'm proud of my country. As my relatives, my relatives aren't me. I don't get to go and share. That's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:02:34 It's just so stupid. It's like people who believe in loyalty. I don't believe in the sins of the father. You're an individual. You make your own choices. Neither does the American Republic. It also doesn't believe in the sins of the father. You're not responsible for your parents' debt.
Starting point is 01:02:49 It's stupid. So I wonder if enough parents are going to be – so COVID allowed parents to hear what their kids were being taught. That's all ending now, and the kids are going back to school. So I'm wondering if now parents are going to fall back asleep. And this was a fluke, essentially. I think that there's actually a lot of parents who are not. And parents have gotten organized.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Like if you look at Moms for Liberty and Tiffany Justice, who founded that group, they have a summit coming up this weekend in Tampa, Florida, which is going to be, I think, really exciting. Very cool. Yeah, it's very cool. And moms specifically are not going to let this drop. And if you look at them, it's like this very diverse group of educated moms who really have no interest in watching their kids be indoctrinated
Starting point is 01:03:35 or watching their daughters end up trans and their grandchildren are getting butchered before they can even be born. All of this stuff. I think you have a lot of parents who, I think that we've seen a lot of that. If you look at the whole DeSantis movement, parental rights and education bill, that bill was wildly popular across the country despite the White House's attempt to brand it as the don't say gay bill. I mean, parents looked at it and they were like,
Starting point is 01:04:01 yeah, schools shouldn't be keeping the mental state of my kids a secret from me. They shouldn't be calling them random new names that the kids came up with. The Democrats lied about it. Yeah, the Democrats lied about it. And the media lied about it. They lied about it very effectively. People who are in a cult and don't want to take their fingers out of their ears, believe it. So the issue is I think had a thing we even had a thing
Starting point is 01:04:25 at Post Millennial too where you know they kept calling it don't say gay bill in all of the press so you know I'd open up an article to edit it
Starting point is 01:04:32 and it would say the so called don't say gay bill and I kept getting in touch with writers being like no we're not using
Starting point is 01:04:38 their language we're not going to secede language to them they have it all wrong they're making up stupid definitions. None of these words mean what they tell us that they mean, and that's not what the bill is for.
Starting point is 01:04:49 It was the don't say straight bill because it prevented teachers from talking about heterosexual marriage. It was that too. It was all that. And now, following the Supreme Court's ruling, where the guy prayed on the 50-yard line, Democrats are pushing don't say pray. I think they just called it the don't, don't.
Starting point is 01:05:03 They just called it don't. Don't. Yeah, don't. Just obey us. Just do what we say. Don't. It's the don't say pray i think they just called it the don't don't they just called it don't don't yeah don't just obey us just do what we say don't it's the don't bill i thought that i thought that was a great ruling about the the coach the praying coach oh yeah what's that all about well he wanted he would pray after again after a game was over he would go out in the 50 yard line i believe football coach and he would just like say a little prayer and uh players started joining him and they would come out, and they'd be like, we're going to pray with coach too.
Starting point is 01:05:28 And it turned into a whole thing. He didn't tell them to come out there. There wasn't anything special, any special treatment for the kids that would go out and pray. He would do a prayer in the locker room, voluntary. Anyone could join. Anyone could not join. It wasn't a big issue.
Starting point is 01:05:43 And I think he got fired. He did get fired because he wouldn't give it up. And what's interesting is you guys know a concept of standing. You have to have suffered an injury before you can bring a suit. What's the injury that would allow the plaintiffs suing the school district over this guy praying? Because they fired him because they said, we're going to get sued. What is their standing? Are they offended?
Starting point is 01:06:11 The students who refused to pray were ostracized or excluded or negatively impacted by refusing to be party to the prayer. They would have to articulate that. There's the problem that it's not true but yeah i look they this is more leftist control and i i'm glad we have at least one institution the supreme court that refuses to go along with it now we have dozens of other major institutions of society are completely controlled by left including our military well military. Well, that's collapsing. Oh, it's a disaster. It's chaos.
Starting point is 01:06:46 60,000, was it 60,000 troops? 60,000 guardsmen and reservists not allowed to drill. We're halfway through the year. They're at 40% of recruiting goals. So their idea was, well, let's just cut the number of end strength. Right, right. You know, I retired seven and a half years ago as an 06. I know lots of other colonels.
Starting point is 01:07:06 And it is unanimous. This is a disaster. And it's not just, you know, back in our day, it was tough when we did basic training. No. Back in our day, we won wars. What's a solution to that? Yeah, what is going on with that whole thing? Well, you should buy my book.
Starting point is 01:07:20 We'll be back. The Fallen Rise of America. Look, the next president is, A, going to have to not be impressed by generals. And Donald Trump was. Donald Trump likes credentials. He does like shiny things. He likes shiny things. Oh, this guy, Dr. Oz, went to Harvard.
Starting point is 01:07:36 Okay, not a good thing. Not a good thing. Sorry, Ben Shapiro. Love you. Not a good thing. Trump went to an Ivy, too, right? He went to Penn. He went to Penn and Wharton.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Yeah, that kind of counts. But he was very impressed by generals. Here's the thing. If you're going to change it, you need to spend time as the president. Remember, it's a hierarchical organization. We always say soldiers do what the commander checks.
Starting point is 01:07:59 If the commander checks wokeness, that is, if that's his intent, you're going to get wokeness because it's an organization that responds to the commander's intent. If you want combat readiness, that's a different thing. So you get a president in there. First day fires all joint chiefs, brings in new joint chiefs, says, guys, it's Monday. It's 0900. This is my intent.
Starting point is 01:08:20 This is not a decision briefing. This is called an orders briefing. I am telling you what you're going to do. You're going to come back here Friday. Friday, each of you will brief me about your organization, including you Space Force guys, and you're going to brief me on how you have ended diversity, equity, and inclusion. No more months.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Diversity, inclusion, and equity. You said D-E-I. It's D-I-E. You're right. It should be die because that's what soldiers will do if they're going around learning to hate their buddy rather than learning to fight. So we're going to end all that. You're going to end all months. There's no more pride month.
Starting point is 01:09:00 There's no more southern, northern Norwegian month. We're not doing any of that. You're going to take it out of West Point. You're going to take it out any of that. You're going to take it out of West Point. You're going to take it out of War College. You're going to take it out of everything. Every civilian who's in a slot that includes the word diversity, inclusion, or equity is going to be terminated as redundant. Everyone who's military in a slot that includes one of those words is going to be moved into a combat unit. Come back here at 9 a.m. on Friday and tell me you have done that.
Starting point is 01:09:26 So what you're looking for is a leader with integrity. A leader who understands how to lead. We haven't had one of those in a very long time. Well, Donald Trump didn't know how to do it. He did a better job than Biden, for sure. I think Donald Trump was a great president. One of his problems is
Starting point is 01:09:42 he's impressed by the military. He needs to beat the Pentagon with a whip and a chair and make it bend to his will. You fire enough generals. You bring them in that Friday. Have you done it, General? Well, you know, sir,
Starting point is 01:09:54 you're out. You're gone. You're fired. Trump would be good at that, right? He'd be totally good at that. And the little kicker, and you are ordered not to retire
Starting point is 01:10:02 until I investigate you to determine if you retire as a 010 and not a 09 because you retire at the last rank where you performed adequately um so you do that a couple of times essentially you retire them at a lower rank oh wow they don't get yeah i mean you don't take away a star oh i if i were the president if i were advising the president say uh i don't know a president with naval experience like DeSantis, I would say, put a little box on your desk. And if a general doesn't like what you're doing, say, general, you can put your stars in there. And you can retire because you can tell me I will not be part of a military that refuses to have transsexuals serving on active duty.
Starting point is 01:10:43 And I respect your integrity you can put your stuff in there uh and you put your stars in there and you'll no longer be in the military and then your deputy will do what i have said when because i'm president when they come back friday morning and tell you we've done it how do you guarantee that it's actually done because these guys work in shell games on trump uh yes and that's why you the second part is the political unit within the within the white house that actually monitors not only the military at first but others and looks for cautionary examples for instance hey i saw this story on the web mr president about a chaplain at elmendorf air force base who was told he can't mention Jesus because it's not inclusive. Great.
Starting point is 01:11:30 General Air Force Secretary, I want you and everybody in the chain of command down to that chaplain in my office Monday morning to brief me on how you're meeting my commander's intent for religious freedom. So come on in here and explain it to me. And you come in, and when they don't explain it to your right you fire everybody in the chain of command and everybody gets the message that oh wow somebody posts something on the net and it's bad the president's going to have to answer for that because there are guys looking for reasons to screw with people and that's what's happening now but the other way around yes exactly so So people are getting in trouble for posting the Gadsden flag.
Starting point is 01:12:06 Bingo. But the funny thing is the Gadsden flag is like a license plate in Virginia. Yes. So this was when they were doing the DC deployment. There were reports that people whose Facebook pages had posts like the Gadsden flag were being removed from the mission. But it's like the flag, you go to Virginia, all the Virginia license plates are Gadsden. Yeah, it's very easy.
Starting point is 01:12:24 Secretary of Defense, bring in everybody from that guy's company commander up to the trump general i don't know if trump would do it desantis i think desantis could do it because he understands if he does it about three or four times the message is going to get out that now the commander's checking combat readiness and he's serious. He also seems to stick to his guns, DeSantis, which I appreciate. Well, DeSantis was a jag for SEALs, so he was in a lot of important meetings. He knows how they work, and he knows how generals work. And there are a lot of us guys out there who know how generals work who'd be happy to come in and share our expertise.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Look, my dream job is to be a political side White House. I'm the guy who goes to the Pentagon, sits across the desk from a general and goes, General, what would you say you do here? Ooh, just like in the office space. So what do you think of a 2024? You think DeSantis or Trump? I think both will run. I've talked to people who talk to Trump, literally.
Starting point is 01:13:28 I got a nice note from Trump the other day. You think DeSantis is going to run in 2024? DeSantis has to run. Everybody seems to really want him to. He has to run. And I want him to run because I want a tough primary. Yeah. I want the best person in 2024.
Starting point is 01:13:40 Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. How will Trump go after DeSantis? Oh, that's such a good question. Because Trump, look how he roasted Elon. It was hilarious. It was funny, but was it really that effective? Well, I mean, what's effective about roasting Elon? They're not really up against each other.
Starting point is 01:13:56 It's just Trump slapping him figuratively. But with Trump and DeSantis, DeSantis is wildly popular, especially among Trump's base. And he's succeeded on every front. He's doing great. It's tough for Trump because he has this guy, and DeSantis is a smart guy. He's not going to attack Trump. He's going to go, I know the president's running. I'm running on my record.
Starting point is 01:14:20 I respect the president, and I'll be happy to support him if the voters choose him. Here's what I've done in Florida. Now, what's Trump do? That would actually be effective. That would be super effective. It really would be. Take the high road. What's Trump do?
Starting point is 01:14:31 Does Trump attack? Well, you know, sweaty Ron DeSantis. And it's like or whatever. And he'd be like, yeah, I work hard. He's like, I'm in Florida. He'd just laugh and go, well, you know, President Trump, he's a funny guy. Here's what I've done in Florida. And I'd like to draw your attention to my successful personnel policies.
Starting point is 01:14:51 That's right. Like I say, for every Rick Grinnell and Robert O'Brien, Trump's got like 10 John Boltons, okay? Actually, I heard his mustache actually had to separately get a security clearance. Not a lot of people know that. So Trump says he's going to drain the swamp. For whatever reason, it didn't happen. Maybe it's because of... I mean, he burned Bolton.
Starting point is 01:15:13 He was like, I'm going to drain the swamp, and the first thing I'm going to do is I'm bringing the biggest swamp monster possible. Yeah, it was a mixed record. Yes. And I talk about it in the book. I have the last two chapters. The second to last analyzes all the potential candidates and talks about Trump and DeSantis and how I want a primary to hone the winner. I want a strong winner. The last chapter is a president looking back as he passes it on to his vice president, Rick Grinnell, and how he went and did this.
Starting point is 01:15:45 And part of that's the military thing I talked about. But there's a lot of things to do, and you need a president who knows what time it is and has the strength to commit the time to fixing these things rather than just dealing with the squirrel of the day. Who do you think did? I kind of think DeSantis, you know, we'll see what happens moving forward. My concern with DeSantis is foreign policy because we haven't seen that. And Donald Trump, I think, did really well on foreign policy.
Starting point is 01:16:11 I thought his whole bilateral trade thing, like all of those agreements where it was like, you know, two agreements between the U.S. and one other country, I thought those were effective. What are those called? Yeah, bilateral. He settled the Middle East War. I mean, I'm old. That was great. You know, I think that was Kushner, right?
Starting point is 01:16:32 Yeah, Kushner was involved. And then you had like the UAE accepting flights from Israel, which was really cool. Kosovo and Serbia. That was cool. Negotiated by Grinnell. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:41 I mean, it's amazing. Domestic issues, DeSantis does very, very well. Particularly in Florida, and COVID was a big deal, so I think the economy would do well. Yeah. But my fear is,
Starting point is 01:16:53 Trump has got, let's just say, character flaws, is a simple way to put it, in how he handles things. He lacks discipline. Sure. But he did well by the economy.
Starting point is 01:17:03 Yes. He did well by foreign policy. Yes. He did well in the culture war. Yes. And he didn't handle himself as well as he should have when did well by the economy. Yes. He did well by foreign policy. Yes. He did well in the culture war. Yes. And he didn't handle himself as well as he should have when it came to the media. True. But people liked that he smacked the media down. Ron DeSantis seems to have
Starting point is 01:17:13 all that plus the tact. But what if we vote for DeSantis and all of a sudden it's like Middle Eastern wars again? That's why you have to have a tough primary. This is why you like Grinnell, right? I love Grinnell. Grinnell, a personal friend. Right. wars again that's why you have to have this is why you like grinnell right that's i love grinnell uh grinnell a personal friend and uh look i i would sit with grinnell and when he was going over to germany and he would ask me you know when i go to an army base what do i look for
Starting point is 01:17:35 not like hey i'm gonna have some parties at the embassy what do i go for what am i looking for at a base to see if it's working right and i would talk to him for hours about this stuff i'm very impressed but i mean we need a primary to see if it's working right? And I would talk to him for hours about this stuff. I'm very impressed. But, I mean, we need a primary to suss that out. Because that's your question. I want to, you know, Ron DeSantis, we don't know what you think about foreign policy. Tell us. How about endless wars?
Starting point is 01:17:55 Where do you come on down on those? You know, I will say this. Having Luke Rutkowski on this show just, like, ardently defend DeSantis over and over again, I'm like, that's an endorsement. Luke hates the government. He hates every single politician. And he's like, Ron DeSantis over and over again. I'm like, that's an endorsement. Luke hates the government. He hates every single politician. And he's like, Ron DeSantis, what did he say? He saved America or something?
Starting point is 01:18:11 He really did, man. I mean, he made a bold stand in an unknown area against COVID. Or maybe not even against COVID, just for Florida. I remember going to, I went to CPAC. What was it in like 2021 in Orlando, just for Florida. I remember going to, I went to CPAC. What was it in like 2021 in Orlando, Florida? Yeah. And I was just like, oh my God, it is paradise.
Starting point is 01:18:34 It was so nice. It was amazing. People were nice. You could go out for drinks and everyone would smile at you. And there were people to bring you food. And it was like- they were happy it was so beautiful i think i wrote an article that was like florida is a paradise of freedom i'm pretty sure that's what i called it and then i had to go back to new york and i was just like oh god no
Starting point is 01:18:56 why hey west virginia i think the issue with with color i like west virginia florida was uh i'm a new fan yeah west is West Virginia's great. Florida was dense. Florida is dense. And so you had this dense urban environment that people who live in cities like, and DeSantis is like, you get your freedom. So all of a sudden, people who like living in cities are like, you got to be in Florida. West Virginia has freedom, but it's because you're in the middle of an empty field.
Starting point is 01:19:21 Which I love. Because there's nowhere around the world to oppress you. Yeah, your neighbor's like all far away. They're like, I don't care what you're doing. And you're like, me neither.
Starting point is 01:19:30 I kind of love that. I don't care. I like that. I think that's brilliant. Yeah, I like West Virginia. They, for the most part, I don't think there's any lockdowns in West Virginia.
Starting point is 01:19:40 I'm not sure. Not when we were here. How would anyone come find you? They had masks, though. They're wearing masks in L.A. again, apparently. Oh, yeah. Okay, but L.A. Not when we were here. How would anyone come find you? They had masks, though. They're in masks in L.A. again, apparently. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:46 Okay, but L.A. is stupid. I know. It's more stupid than New York. Sadly, I live there. Yeah. Well, I live in New York City, and there's people walking around in masks. But you know what we really have? We have actually something that's probably stupider than anything you have, which is
Starting point is 01:19:59 for a long time after the mask rules were lifted, the mask rules were not lifted on people under five years old. Sometimes you'll have this. You'll have white, overeducated, liberal people walking around New York City with no masks, walking a toddler next to them with a mask on the toddler.
Starting point is 01:20:18 Wait, were the kids on leashes? Yes, the kids will be on leashes. They have those little monkey backpack leashes. They're just normalizing bondage. That's just insane. Well, they are doing that. The Washington Post wants us to do that. Remember, they ran that article about how important it is to expose your kids to kink at Pride? Gross.
Starting point is 01:20:36 Fatherly, actually. Wow, I didn't see the Washington Post endorsing Eric Greitens. It was two years ago. It was two years ago that they ran the bring your kids to show them kink at pride. Show them kink at pride. Luke Chetida saying DeSantis has the advantage over Trump. So if you look at predicted, it's like 35 DeSantis, 42 Trump.
Starting point is 01:20:57 But I think Ron DeSantis has an advantage in that he's actively in government right now. He's campaigning right now, which means he's getting to prove himself. Right now, Trump might announce his presidency early. That's the idea that he's announced his presidency. Look for it just before Christmas. Right. And he has to because DeSantis
Starting point is 01:21:17 is actively campaigning now for his governorship, but this means he gets to campaign actively and be in the press you get a bunch of attention trump if he sits back he's losing that space to desantis yeah do you think newsom is going to try and run yes oh god i hope so he's the he's second in line on predicted behind biden i believe really yep what about kamala she's amazing she can hardly get a single delegate she's remarkable another proud day for us california lawyers as as someone
Starting point is 01:21:47 who voted for trump i fear kamala being the candidate we we must oh no not that don't throw me in the kamala patch you know it's funny is uh it's funny that i basically said that about joe biden and then joe biden won and so i'm like you know uh we're sitting here talking about kamala like haha kamala and then well it's knock on wood it's like a democrat three percent of the vote in the in the democratic primary well it's like the democrats interfering in the republican primaries they're like let's give the let's give a like 10 million bucks to the super trumpy guy with maga tattooed on his tramp stamp. And yeah, we'll get him. And some of these guys are going to get elected.
Starting point is 01:22:35 In a world of $7 gas, you may get a guy who changed his name to John Q. MAGA. And he may go, this guy seems like a viable candidate here in Colorado. So we'll talk a little bit about that. We'll do one quick segment on this because I published an opinion piece in Newsweek today. The January 6th committee misrepresented me. And I'll give you the quick gist of the story. You guys heard probably the other day that on national television across the board, there's TimCast. They run this clip where there's people saying, like, kick the door in.
Starting point is 01:23:03 There's going to be a red wedding. And then in between, it's me going, according to Fox News, Donald Trump says there's going to be a wild protest. It wasn't that, you know, dull. I said, Donald Trump says there's going to be a wild protest, and I think he's right. Considering what we've already seen, I think things will get wild. And then I said, this could be Trump's last stand. He's calling on his supporters to come to D.C.
Starting point is 01:23:20 They play that together, and then they try and insinuate that I'm encouraging people to take action simply because i'm telling people a thing that happened so you were just mentioning how uh what were you just talking we're talking about uh you're talking about the democrats i was gonna make a point but i forgot what you oh about them funding republicans yes exactly that was it yes democrats are paying in ones i think in in colorado's like 30 million dollars to fund pro-trump candidates yep jamie raskin i'm like why is it that he put a clip of me because they need to create an image of a problem to convince people that they are the ones who can
Starting point is 01:23:57 oppose that problem it is demagoguery it is a lie the trump supporters who are getting massive press it's democrats funding it so they can then turn to their voters and say, look, look at that scary thing. Only we can stop it. But they're the ones paying for it. It seems a bit cynical. I wouldn't have expected that of Democrats. It's evil, manipulative and cult like. And it's not going to work.
Starting point is 01:24:24 I mean, it can really... Remember how the entire media was pushing for Trump for the first nine months. They thought, he's great for TV, and he'll never win. This is perfect. They loved it. They loved it. And I thought Hillary would just walk into the level of it. Let me tell you guys something really interesting about this op-ed and the January 6th thing.
Starting point is 01:24:42 I have had friends hit me up who had Trump derangement syndrome being like something's not right here. Like, I don't understand what just happened. You're a human red pill. I've had, well, the thing is, there are people who follow this show who don't like Donald Trump and know, at the very least, they might not like me, but that I am not what they're trying to claim me to be. The January 6th episode we have was embedded in the Newsweek article. And in it, it's like a whole two and a half hours or whatever of a conversation as to why violence doesn't work, why we've always condemned it, why this will make things worse, why it's bad. And then even in the lead up to this in September, I have a video where I'm saying
Starting point is 01:25:25 that Black Lives Matter lost all of their support they gained throughout the year by engaging in riots. Don't do this stuff. It doesn't work. It hurts your cause. And then Jamie Raskin, this is really funny, by the way, his office is like 30 miles from here
Starting point is 01:25:38 because he reps the district right next to us. So I'm going to go to his office. Probably tomorrow, I'm going to go knock on the door and be like, hey, guys, look, I'm here. You guys lied about me. Hey, you should definitely do that. And definitely bring a camera crew. Ask for an apology.
Starting point is 01:25:53 I love this idea. Where's Miss Raskin? Oh, he's out getting a haircut. You liar! I know you're a liar now. Well, he might not be at his office in Maryland. Right. But it's very close.
Starting point is 01:26:03 I'll show up and I'll leave a note or something. I'll say, hey guys, look, some of my employees are constituents of Representative Raskin
Starting point is 01:26:11 and he is smearing me, my company, and lying for what I believe to be political gain but maybe I'm wrong about him and he'll apologize publicly for including me incorrectly
Starting point is 01:26:21 in his video. Well, I expect him to take the classy move and so does my unicorn. That's right. That's right. Is that the unicorn that's puking rainbow glitter? His name's Chad.
Starting point is 01:26:34 Great. He has a name. I have a feeling I'm going to show up, and they're going to say, we don't care. You can't do anything about it. We can say whatever we want and get out. I have a feeling if I show up they're going to be like you can't be here you need to leave
Starting point is 01:26:46 that would be interesting too why could you not be there I'm just standing in your waiting room is it wrong to do that because I was informed by you that it's okay to come and petition your representative for the should I hire like a handful
Starting point is 01:27:03 of people just hold signs in front of his office saying he lied no i think the democratic the diplomatic approach is right and you can of course petition the government for a redress of grievances at least theoretically it says it for sure well so the issue with this uh it also says you can keep it bare arms no in new york they are like no we don, we're not going to follow the Supreme Court. And they're starting to, yeah, they're trying to say that the entire city of New York is like some sanctuary. A sensitive area. Sensitive area. When the Bruin opinion specifically says, don't try that trick. You can't do that.
Starting point is 01:27:38 You can't do that. You know, it's really remarkable how angry Democrats get after the Supreme Court says you have to stop systematically violating people's rights, and then they launch into massive resistance. That's right. Like, oh, I don't know, Brown versus Board of Education. Run. Wasn't it funny how all these people were like...
Starting point is 01:27:57 There was an op-ed. Who was it by? I think it might have been Politics Girl. Do you guys know who that is? No. We've invited her on the show before, but I guess they just don't want to do it. I'm not surprised. And she's like, it's a podcast funded by Midas Touch. Oh, God. But she made a very powerful point against gay marriage.
Starting point is 01:28:16 It was kind of crazy. She said that something like the Supreme Court should not be legislating and deciding what is law and what is not law. And then I was like, that would rescind a lot of progressive gains. Well, the Supreme Court sort of said that recently with the EPA ruling, right? Right, right, right. And they said, you know, if Congress wants to do this, Congress has to do this. Right. So what's happened is many people on the left are trying to come up with some kind of sophistry as to why
Starting point is 01:28:45 the supreme court is wrong so there's two things one the supreme court should not arbitrarily decide what the law is and then it's like so you agree with the supreme court that's what they said then the other the other issue is they're saying that if the supreme court is going to rescind its own precedence then they're illegitimate and it it's like, now you're advocating for Brown v. Board of Education? Oh, and you're advocating for Dred Scott? Come on! The Supreme Court's
Starting point is 01:29:10 had a lot of bad decisions we get rid of. Yes. It's, look, we're not having a rational debate here. The left is going to take the position that's most convenient
Starting point is 01:29:22 to the left and its accumulation of power and money. Does it gain the left power? Yes. Then it's their position. Which is why I don't want to argue with the left. I just want to defeat them. You know, if his laptop had been compromised and his, you know, stripper antics, you know,
Starting point is 01:29:47 the doing blasting rails off the butt of a Latavian hooker videos had been out there, you'd be treating it differently. I don't do that to the left because they don't care. It doesn't matter. They're immune to hypocrisy because that's not what they're about. They're about power. Normal people, though, normal people see that and go, huh, that's a problem. So we have to keep making the argument.
Starting point is 01:30:08 But the argument needs to go to normal people. As far as the left, it's like, no, you just can't do that. Here's what I'll do. I'll take the twerking old man with the little girl, and I'll do a loop where it plays four and then rewinds, and it'll say vote Raskin and Flash, and then I'll hire someone to hold that up in front of his office. Oh, my gosh. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's terrific. Raskin celebrates all
Starting point is 01:30:30 identities. Just have that down. I won't tell, I won't say anything about him. I'll just say vote for him. Pride for Raskin. And I'll just hold up. Get more of this. We'll get a bunch of, you know those trucks with the ad TVs on them? Oh my gosh, that would be hilarious. Oh, that's a really good idea actually. To get like the lights with like the lights on them? Oh, my gosh. That would be hilarious. Oh, that's a really good idea, actually. With the lights? With the Nike lights and stuff? Those trucks that carry billboards. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:49 Oh, yeah. And then just have it playing the twerking old man. Oh, yeah. Should we hire like 100 of those and have them drive around D.C.? Yeah. We've got to come around and hire those. Vote Jamie Raskin. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:59 No, I won't say anything. It'll just show the video. You could definitely do that. It'll say something like Minneapolis Pride and just, that's it. That's all it is. Drive them around. We'll hire, what if we did like, you know, I think to make it impactful, you need like a hundred of them and just have them
Starting point is 01:31:14 driving throughout the city. You've got to be careful not to show it to kids because that defeats the message. What do you mean? There's literally a child watching it happen and they're cheering for it and encouraging it. The point is how bad that was. Fair point. Don't do it again. It. But the point is how bad that was. Fair point. You're saying don't do it again. Fair point.
Starting point is 01:31:26 Don't do it again. But it is important that people see that, that adults see that and understand that it happened. No, actually, that's an important question. Would they get mad, Ian? Is there something wrong with it? It was on a public Minneapolis street with people cheering as a little girl watched. I don't see anything.
Starting point is 01:31:41 Where's her pride, Ian? Maybe just drive it around after hours. But no, no, no. When the parents complain about it, it's exactly the point. Oh, you all have an issue with this in D.C.? What are you, bigots? Who's braving off this? I'm literally shaking just thinking about that.
Starting point is 01:31:59 Why are they denying the existence of wherever the hell Tidy Whitey Boy is? Tidy Whitey Guy. Non-binary whatever the hell he is. There's so many videos of this stuff and that video I think is like the one thing you send to somebody to make them be like, what? I'm still trying to get over the twerking legislator from
Starting point is 01:32:17 Rhode Island. Holy cow. Oh, that was wild. Maybe we can watch that on the after show. That was pretty amazing. Nobody should see that but your gynecologist, all right? I'm looking it up right now. Oh, no, don't do that. People are allowed to twerk.
Starting point is 01:32:32 I don't care. I think when I see that, I'm glad she twerked because I will not support someone who's doing that. You know what I mean? I don't care that she does it. She's allowed to do it. It's America, and I'll vote for somebody else. I don't live in Rhode Island, so I really don't care. I do think you should mock her.
Starting point is 01:32:48 And that comes back to the tolerance thing. I'm not going to say it's okay with me. It's not. It's stupid and it's gross. And you shouldn't do it. I'm not going to send the cops to arrest you. Because, first of all, I don't want them to get PTSD. But, you know, don't look at me and go, oh, well, you're living your best life.
Starting point is 01:33:06 No, you're not. You're living a terrible life and you need to stop. And you need some Jesus, lady. This is the thing with abortion, too. And you need some pants. I mean, this is the thing with abortion, too. People say, I had an abortion
Starting point is 01:33:16 and it saved my life. And it's like, no, you had an abortion that saved your lifestyle. And I don't think it was really that worth saving. All right, we're going to go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. Head over to TimCast.com and become a member for the Members Only After Hours show.
Starting point is 01:33:35 It is uncensored and often very spicy. Last night was a whole lot of fun, as you'll see on the front page of the website. So yeah, check it out and share the show with your friends. All that good stuff. Like button, like button. And let's see what we got all right what is this ricky longhall says thoughts on the usda department of education irs department of energy inspector general fish and wildlife geological survey department of interior rebel retirement agency stockpiling machine guns shotguns suppressed pistols body armor and ammo i didn't know any of that uh did you guys know any of that? No.
Starting point is 01:34:07 I know the IRS bought hollow points. I did see. You know the funny thing about hollow points is that, one, they're for killing. So they hit the body, they expand, so it causes more damage. And I could be wrong about this, but aren't they banned by the Hague Convention or something? Hague Convention? Yeah, for use in wartime. You're not allowed to have weapons that increase suffering.
Starting point is 01:34:27 So you can't have, for instance, a serrated bayonet. Right, you can't have like the double-sided bayonet, right? The double-sided knife. Yeah, I mean... Yeah, right. Unless there's a function to it,
Starting point is 01:34:39 like white phosphorus. Yeah, there's... Did you know this, that they were stockpiling weapons? I didn't know that. I didn't know that they were buying a lot of ammo. I guess they're buying it now because it's really cheap. No, that ain't it.
Starting point is 01:34:54 I saw theories that they were buying it up to drive up the cost so that people wouldn't buy it. I don't know if that's true or not. Maybe. I saw that the IRS was buying a ton. I saw that they didn't have a ton of agents who are armed. Very interesting little rabbit hole to go down. That is weird.
Starting point is 01:35:07 Yeah, I was like, why are they buying all this? But I feel like you're training, whatever else you're doing with it as a kid. Okay, maybe there's nothing here. If we had some oversight from, I don't know, legislators elected to go, you're head of the IRS. I got a lot of beefs with you. I got a list. But why are you buying so much ammo? And maybe he has a really good reason.
Starting point is 01:35:26 Oh, well, they shoot 250 rounds each to qualify a year. Okay, I can live with that. There's probably wild hogs running around the IRS building. Yeah, the IRS building. It's really just about the safety of the children who work in the IRS building. I don't think we think enough about
Starting point is 01:35:41 the children in regard to armed tax collectors. That's right. All right. We got Nick Koenigs who said, Tim, since I started eating healthy and running in January, I've already lost 50 plus pounds. Congrats on your weight loss too. Yeah. The thing is like I didn't actually plan on losing weight. I didn't actually care.
Starting point is 01:35:57 I just was like, I don't want to eat sugar. You know, we had the keto stuff. And then I was like, why am I eating this garbage all the time? I'm just not going to eat it. And then just I started losing weight. I don don't know you talk about a transformation of the nation man that's that's physical oh yeah look at those you see those those memes from the 1960s and like all the dudes are right then everyone's thin uh the the other interesting thing and i look i'm 57 so it's like pulling teeth to lose weight. I've lost like 8 pounds in the last month or so. And it's been
Starting point is 01:36:26 agonizing. When I was like 22, if I wanted to lose 10 pounds, all I did was go run for a half hour. It's painful. But here's the thing. So many people in the conservative space do not drink. And it's not high-flying morality stuff.
Starting point is 01:36:42 And a lot of them are... Some of them had a problem. But others are like, it just doesn't contribute to my life. And a lot of them are, some of them had a problem. But others are like, it just doesn't contribute to my life. Yeah. And that's the majority of it. Drinking is not fashionable among conservatives. It's very odd. The other thing that's interesting, too, is remember Michelle Obama had her whole fitness thing? Yeah, the Let's Move campaign.
Starting point is 01:36:59 She had like a whole anti-obesity thing. And now the left is like, obesity is beautiful. The sugar industry, the original, Michelle Obama's original Let's Move campaign was get sugar out of your diet and the sugar industry came in and was like a documentary called Fed Up with Katie Couric exploits this and they were like let's make it an exercise
Starting point is 01:37:16 campaign. Forget about the diet. And then they turned it into an exercise but they kept eating. Greg says your weight loss is pretty obvious watching the IRL clips. Can see the difference between the clip and your outro clip. We're going to record a new outro clip. Oh, that's a good reminder. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:31 That's great. We should do that after the show. I didn't even realize that. I was like, oh, yeah, we have like an old outro clip. I was like, thanks for watching, and I'm probably just like. That wasn't that long ago. I guess the idea of having a theme song from Sir Mix-A-Lot is now out. Yeah, we're not allowed to use that anymore.
Starting point is 01:37:42 We're not doing that. No, you can't do it. Okay. Tim got back. All right. JTTV says, please continue advocating for the health of bodies and pushing critical thinking for the individual
Starting point is 01:37:52 instead of the monolith of absolute degenerate destructive nonsense that has plagued this nation for decades. God bless. I tell you this. I think it might have been Cernovich who said this, that if you really want to win and get back at the left or whatever, exercise, eat healthy, focus on yourself, make money, have a family.
Starting point is 01:38:07 Even in a cult, people will see beauty and health and they're drawn to it. I find it so annoying because I always feel better if I work out and I'm always like, damn, I feel terrible. I better work out. That's so annoying. I hate that. I hate that. I really just want to sit on the couch and watch
Starting point is 01:38:24 Star Trek. It's funny you mentioned Cernovich. I happened to see him at a wedding a couple weeks ago. Oh, cool. And he looked great and was happy. Yeah. I mean, he was just a happy guy. And I mean, if you followed Cernovich's career, he was not always a happy guy.
Starting point is 01:38:43 But he's happy now. Yeah, he's explored psychedelics. I mean, he's transformed his life. always a happy guy. He's happy now. He's explored psychedelics. I mean, he's transformed his life. I mean, he's gone on an interesting arc. Yeah. I mean, he's actually become a different person. I think he's a much happier person.
Starting point is 01:38:57 And he shares his advice with people. And maybe you agree with him, maybe you don't. But he has. All right. We got Emily Williams says, I feel like Ian is that hippie friend you pick up at the local farmer's market that everyone thinks is high all the time
Starting point is 01:39:08 but just knows way more about weird stuff. That's actually true. That's what I was going for. I'm pretty sure that's it. Mission accomplished. People think Ian's high, but he's not. He just reads the weird stuff.
Starting point is 01:39:22 He just knows weird stuff. When you were a kid, did you ever have other kids go, how come you know things? He's not. He just reads the weird stuff. He just knows weird stuff. Yeah. That's cool. He just likes to think. When you were a kid, did you ever have other kids go, how come you know things? But they would just, they would lash out. I was the kid that would raise my hand for every answer the teacher would ask because they already gave me the answer. I just got to tell them. And the other kids would take it out on me later.
Starting point is 01:39:39 I didn't know why. Like, why don't they like me? It's because I would make them, I guess they felt like idiots because I was like, come on, guys, move it along. Move the story along. I couldn't figure out why don't they like me? It's because I would make them, I guess they felt like idiots because I was like, come on, guys, move it along. Move the story along. I couldn't figure out why all the kids hated me. Like, I was merciless. I was telling you this yesterday.
Starting point is 01:39:51 I was mercilessly bullied. I know why. I was a giant jerk. You know, now and then I would raise my hand. But mostly I was just like not ever paying. I was always like just looking at something else. I was always, my attention was somewhere it wasn't supposed to be. It's vulnerability.
Starting point is 01:40:05 People will sometimes attack vulnerability. It's like a wild tiger with fresh meat. Like leftists. All right. I want to read this one. Lars Job says,
Starting point is 01:40:12 my 98-year-old grandpa was found of multiple tumors and he has almost stopped eating and we believe he's near the end. He lived a good life and is a World War II vet, the last surviving member of the Alamo Scouts.
Starting point is 01:40:22 If you know a veteran, thank them for their service. Shout out to your grandfather. I wish I knew his name. I want to shout his name out. What a hero. Freaking cool, man. You've got to tell you, these young Americans that I got to serve with, they are truly walking
Starting point is 01:40:37 in the boot steps of heroes. But they are great themselves. I'm so impressed by our young soldiers that I worked with, and, you know, the occasional weirdo. I really got a shout-out. Haunted Autumn said, Are we going to ignore the fact that Tim is wearing the same shirt as last episode?
Starting point is 01:40:55 More power to you, but dude, we noticed. I really love that because the last episode I was wearing a Vans pocket Raglan tee. With print on it. With print on it. What the heck? And the day before I wore this shirt, whereas typically I wear literally the same thing every single day. So it's like the one time I don't wear something, they think I do.
Starting point is 01:41:15 Come on, man. All right. You're being raskined again. Yeah. Nikki Hilly says, Longtime supporter. Just found Cast Castle and I'm obsessed. Can't stop watching it.
Starting point is 01:41:26 Reminds me of Rob Dyrdek's Fantasy Factory. Keep up the amazing work. Yes. The Cast Castle is basically going to be like a hybrid between a vlog and a sitcom where we're basically making fun of culture war concepts and issues and poking fun at all the stuff. So I think it's pretty fun and we're excited to expand it. But it's a learning process. We start making episodes. We see what works. We see what's funny. And then we just make it better and better and we're excited to expand it. But it's a learning process. We start making episodes.
Starting point is 01:41:45 We see what works. We see what's funny. And then we just make it better and better and better until it gets really good. And shout out to Jamie the Animal Kilstein. The animal? Yeah. Taking it to the top. Wow.
Starting point is 01:41:54 That's great. Yeah. He's running the vlog right now. He's running Cass Castle. All right. Peter Nguyen says, right now there's an echo chamber on Twitch. The younger generation is getting so much leftist propaganda and apolitical streamers are being influenced
Starting point is 01:42:08 by people like Hassan. You need to build culture there. You can't. They will ban you for the slightest thing. Destiny said, Kyle Rittenhouse was the clearest cut case of self-defense he had ever seen. And they actually,
Starting point is 01:42:20 they call it a ban, but it's like a suspension. So simply for asserting a fact, not even a political opinion. It's like, oh yeah, I watched the video. That was self-defense. They're like, you're out but it's like a suspension. So simply for asserting a fact, not even a political opinion. It's like, oh, yeah, I watched the video. That was self-defense. They're like, you're out. That's Twitch for you.
Starting point is 01:42:29 So not interested. Although maybe for fun, we'll simulcast on Twitch for a week to see how long it takes. We'll get banned. You can't simulcast on Twitch. Well, you can't be a partner on Twitch and simulcast. They'll end your partnership. It's in their terms. It's very strange.
Starting point is 01:42:42 There's software that will let you do it, but Twitch doesn't want it, I guess. Weird. Yeah, it's disappointing. I'd be on Twitch if otherwise. Tyler McFarlane says, T-bones are the superior steak. You get a tenderloin and New York strip in one package, FJB. I agree with all of it, actually, especially the FJB part. Yeah, I had a T-bone, and you got the tenderloin on one side, and then you got the strip on the other.
Starting point is 01:43:07 But I just, you know, it is true. It's like choose one. Commit. But, yo, just tenderloin, filet mignon, just medium rare. My wife is a filet mignon person. She likes it. Who does it? Who's not a filet mignon person?
Starting point is 01:43:20 Yeah, everyone is. It's so good for you. I'd be a filet mignon person if filet mignon was showing up in my plate every day. Sometimes I'm in a ribeye place. Sometimes I'm in a New York place. It's a move. True. And I will say, it's a different experience.
Starting point is 01:43:32 Yes. Like brisket. You can't even compare brisket to filet mignon. They're different things. Yeah, it's a different thing. Oh, I love brisket. The best brisket I had was in Austin just recently with Hannah Nightingale, who's my U.S. news editor.
Starting point is 01:43:44 We had the best night, and she kept making fun of me because every bite I took, I wasale, who's my U.S. news editor. We had the best night, and she kept making fun of me because every bite I took, I was like, oh, my God. I was like, are you okay? No, I'm not okay. It's nature's perfect food. We can just be.
Starting point is 01:43:55 It was so sublime. There was this sauce. They put the sauce on it. We can talk all day about abortion and politics. We can talk about the Democrats and law enforcement and Trump on January 6th. No, no, no, no, no. When people can't get their brisket, they're going to like kick doors and they're going to be screaming and banging their heads on walls. It's going to be chaos.
Starting point is 01:44:16 That is true. You know, here's how weird this whole situation has got. I did a speaking gig to a bunch of Republicans at a country club. And they said, it's sold out. This is great. I walk in. Half the room does not have tables up. And I'm like, could you put more tables up and sell them?
Starting point is 01:44:32 And they said, we'd love to. And the country club would have loved to. They could not guarantee to get enough chicken breasts to feed the people. The last time Americans couldn't go to the store and get chicken breast was, I guess, 1940s when you had rationing. That's what the Democrats expect us to accept. They should have put together some cricket
Starting point is 01:44:53 patties. Salmon, chicken, bug. Justin Clark says, remember when Cartman's mom tried to make a 37th trimester abortion legal? Hard to distinguish reality from the satire, as you discussed recently. That's not really satire. Andy Ngo shared this with me.
Starting point is 01:45:11 There was some Antifa woman in Oregon who was bragging about getting an abortion at seven months. Like the baby was seven months old? No, in her womb. 37th trimester. Oh, 37th trimester. Yeah, he's like nine years older. You said 37th trimester. Yeah, he's like nine years older. You said 37th trimester, and I heard 37 weeks in my brain. That would have been, yow, even better.
Starting point is 01:45:34 I mean, sure, kids can be a pain, but really. No. All right, let's grab some. What do we got here? Let's find a good one. There was a good one I saw a moment ago. Where did it go? Yeah, these super chats are great. You guys are awesome is that man look at all those
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Starting point is 01:46:14 We're going to be doing a big marketing campaign for Tales from the Inverted World. Because if you guys haven't seen it, man, go to youtube.com slash talesfromtheinvertedworld. Search for it. The latest episode is 40 minutes, and it is like Hunter S. Thompson meets the X-Files, but it's a real story. Shane Cashman went down to Georgia to look for the lost Confederate gold, and he tells the story of what it was like,
Starting point is 01:46:36 and it was creepy. He met crazy people, witches. Someone threatened to kill him. No joke. Because people don't realize that history of the Civil War runs deep in these towns. The town where Jefferson dissolved the Confederacy,
Starting point is 01:46:50 they still feel all of that. And so he shows up and someone left him a voicemail like they were going to kill him if he didn't stop trying to find out where this gold was. And there are UFOs because there's military research stuff going on and people come out and they see these weird things in the sky. So it's really cool stuff.
Starting point is 01:47:06 It's like real-life X-Files almost. So we're going to be doing a big push for that because the episodes have just gotten so amazing. Production quality has been upped dramatically. The episodes are going to be upwards of an hour long each, and we've got, I think, 10 episodes this season. And then we're going to be launching another show with Shane where he's going to do a weekly conversation show about weird, wild stories. And that will just be the consistent conversation that happens when the seasonal show's in production. You said when Jefferson ended the Confederacy,
Starting point is 01:47:32 Jefferson Davis? Yeah. It was funny, because it was his first name. You want a first name? Right, right. First name is... Yes. I thought he meant the Jeffersons moving on up. Sherman Hemsley. Sherman. Great actor, by the way. Oh, classic.
Starting point is 01:47:47 I used to watch it as a kid. And All in the Family. Which, of course, could not ever be made today. Because it's just... It was just such a good show. Sometimes I remember 227 because of how much Pearl loved Luther Vandross. Steve McQueen. I don't know why that stuck in my head.
Starting point is 01:48:03 Man, that's a deep cut. I know. I watched's a deep cut I know The 227 I watched it a lot You know, Pearl was my favorite character Her social security number was Well, she did love Luther Vandross Steve McQueen says
Starting point is 01:48:14 Have you heard of drivenbillboards.net? It's mobile billboards that go wherever you want I think it might be perfect for your advertising campaign I think so too Driven billboards Steve McQueen Steve McQueen Billboards McQueen. Billboards. I will look into that
Starting point is 01:48:27 and let's see if these companies are going to be like, yo, I'm not putting that video on my truck. And I'll be like, why not? Why not? What's wrong with it? Why not? Are you a transphobe? Take the money. Alright. OMG Puppy says, why don't they just say Latin?
Starting point is 01:48:43 A perfectly acceptable adjective that's long been used to refer to Hispanics. Which why don't they just say Latin, a perfectly acceptable adjective that's long been used to refer to Hispanics? Which is strange because they're not Latin. Latin is a language that's no longer in use. It's Latin roots, but so is France. It's Latin America. But French and Romanian are also romance languages. It's Portuguese.
Starting point is 01:49:02 Yeah, I just love it. My wife, of course, immigrated from Cuba. The only way I could make her more annoyed than calling her La Tinkst is if I did it wearing a Che t-shirt. Oh, my gosh. Oh, nice. Good combination. That would not. Anthony Floor says, I can see myself 20 years from now watching Ian come out on TimCast IRL as a reformed Catholic,
Starting point is 01:49:23 and it would be the greatest character arc of all time. All right, you got me. Trad Catholic Ian. Trad Catholic Ian. I love. Him and Matt Walsh. He's like, Matt, you're not cutting it. Jesus, that would be a good sitcom.
Starting point is 01:49:33 His hair is cut short. He's shaved. He's wearing a button-up shirt. He looks just like Seamus. I come in and Matt's ripping the bong. I'm like, Seamus. What's happening to you, man? That would actually be funny if we did a bit where it's like 10 years in the future and seamus has long hair and he's just like i don't know but all that he kind of looks
Starting point is 01:49:48 like jesus from the pictures nobody has like long hair and he's like an atheist secular hippie and then like you become captain and you have like a suit on like seamus you need to come back and he's like i don't i don't know man i don't understand you that'd be funny all right there was a there was a super chat i wanted to see, but someone mentioned sending that video to their mom. Maybe I'll find it. DBZ Dragon says, Tim, I recommend you and the group look up Peter Boghossian. He's a former Portland State Professor of Philosophy, and his work on street epistemology is worth the look. We are good friends with Peter.
Starting point is 01:50:18 He's red. I periodically talk to him. I've interviewed him before. We've – yeah. Cool dude. We should have him on the show. I don't know what his schedule is like him before. We've, yeah. Cool dude. We should have him on the show. I don't know what his schedule is like. He's a very, very busy man.
Starting point is 01:50:29 Very busy man. That's part of the problem. Yeah, we try. Very busy man. Get busy on IRL. Yeah, be busy. It's good, huh? You just need to come all the way across the country.
Starting point is 01:50:37 It's no big deal. That's all. All right, let's see. Candice Volpis says, just got out of the military. Here is some tax money back. Driving from NC to AZ. Thanks for making this trip more enjoyable. Hey, appreciate it, man. All right, let's see. Candice Volpis says, just got out of the military. Here is some tax money back. Driving from NC to AZ. Thanks for making this trip more enjoyable. Hey, appreciate it, man.
Starting point is 01:50:49 All right. Cool. Would you go through the Grand Canyon if you get near there? It gets really cold. Have you ever noticed they ever drove past the Grand Canyon? Is it cold? I think all the heat's falling into the canyon. Heat rises.
Starting point is 01:51:00 Usually, yeah. You would think. But it's like hitting the ground and then rising up above the base of the canyon. I only went to the Grand Canyon once, and it was the X-Files series finale. That's awesome. And we had all this, well, we thought we had all this weed, but it kind of got lost at the airport. Anyway, it was a fun trip. It was a fun trip.
Starting point is 01:51:18 It was a fun trip. Wow. Yeah. Watch out for black eyes. EO2 Dave says, Trump drained the water from the swamp and exposed the creatures. Quite the achievement considering all the snakes in the grass. That is a fair point.
Starting point is 01:51:30 He may not have emptied the swamp, but he did do a little, and all of a sudden we could see a lot being exposed. Shout out to our good enemy, John Bolton. I'll make the joke about good friends for a lot of people, but not him. Coming on TV and outright saying, I've staged coup d'etat in many countries.
Starting point is 01:51:47 And then Frum was like, he shouldn't post jokes. Frum's like, stay on the oop-kay. Yo, but it's like all of the stuff that was supposedly a secret is just coming out in the open now after Trump. Bolton's like, yeah, I did it. And everyone's like, wow. Well, you know, at one point secrets mattered because, you know, you'd have a media that would expose them. And now it's like you got Hunter Biden, you know, showing off the whole butcher shop, you know, walking around, weighing the crack, got the hookers. The nice thing is, you know, people know people are like oh this is a terrible security breach no it isn't because there's nothing you can do to blackmail this guy
Starting point is 01:52:31 what are the chinese having we got we have we have the real dirt on you what do you do three hookers at a time all right scallywag swagger says hollow points aren't banned that's a lie they expand to stop overpenetration and collateral life loss. You talk about DeSantis, but seem to forget he signed red flag laws. Ooh, is that true? I don't forget that.
Starting point is 01:52:53 It is true. He did that. Yeah. Really? He has a shortcoming, just like any other politician. And Trump banned bump stocks. Oh, look.
Starting point is 01:52:59 Trump said, I like taking the guns first and then going to the courts or whatever. If only we had some sort of process where we could question the candidate before deciding if they were finally a nominee. I wonder what that would be. That would be amazing. That would be really interesting.
Starting point is 01:53:12 We might want to institute something like that. Also, I had a similar notion. Yesterday, somebody was saying, well, how are we going to know what the framers said? If only there was some means of- I wonder if there was maybe a document. Perhaps they would have written it down. A way to permanently etch your thoughts in some media.
Starting point is 01:53:30 And maybe they would have written down additionally things they thought about the things they wrote down in the first place. I wonder... It would have been so useful. Maybe 81 of them. Are there 81? Aren't there 81 Federalist papers? I don't know. There are a couple lesser Federalist Papers.
Starting point is 01:53:46 But I'm only getting that from Hamilton. I only remember that from Hamilton. There are some actual Federalist Papers where they compare and fight over Star Trek versus Star Wars. They have a lot of... Those are the really key ones. The lesser known ones with kind of esoteric conflicts. Jason D. says, draining the swamp did not rid us of the monsters.
Starting point is 01:54:05 It exposed the monsters. And in that, Trump certainly succeeded. Again, again, fair point, fair point. Same point. All right. Daniel Spratt says, look into lure. Is that what it's called? The lure?
Starting point is 01:54:16 Building a streaming service with non-woke content. Marcus Pittman is the guy behind it. How do you spell that? Does it say lure? It's like L-O-O-R, I think. Lure. It's like the text is really small. I thought it's like L-O-O-R, I think. Lure. It's like the text is really small. I thought it'd be L-U-R-E.
Starting point is 01:54:29 Lure.tv. Maybe it's lure.tv. Yeah, is that it? 85. There were 85. There are 85. 85 Federalist Papers. I know Hamilton wrote 51.
Starting point is 01:54:37 All right. Oh, wow. John Jay wrote eight, I think. And J.K. Rowling wrote two. I'm sure. Yes. Sounds right. Yes.
Starting point is 01:54:44 Russ says, any comment about the Ray Epps Washington Post story? His reasoning seems plausible. I didn't see it. What was it? Did anybody see it? I did not. I can comment. There was a Times one.
Starting point is 01:54:53 It was the New York Times. And they said, you know, here's this victim. Yeah. And it's like, a guy who's on video telling people to engage in entering the Capitol is a victim. And me, a guy who read the news, is included in this video montage by Raskin. Reading the news is treason. Yes, you have correctly assessed the situation. Yeah, these people are duplicitous, deceitful.
Starting point is 01:55:18 And, you know, I am unhappy with the representation that he is bringing forth in Montgomery County in Maryland, where many of my employees actually live. Yeah, Frederick County. You must... He's Montgomery. Oh, yeah. It surrounds Frederick. Oh, that's right. Okay.
Starting point is 01:55:33 There you go. Twerking for liberty. That's nice. That's what you need to do. Yeah. Twerking for liberty. All right. There was that one I wanted to find.
Starting point is 01:55:41 Be careful. You're not culturally appropriating, though. I don't want to culturally appropriate his twerking. Exactly. You got to be careful with that. Waffle Sensei says Trump will give the left the ammunition they need to hurt DeSantis because Trump is a comedian. Trump needs to walk away, but he won't.
Starting point is 01:55:54 The poll said 94% of Democrats will vote against Trump again. That's true. No, that is true. But then again, look, Trump's saying he's going to run. People around him say he's going to run. Trump doesn't know where he's going to run or not. He's Trump. Oh, he's running.
Starting point is 01:56:09 He really wants to. He could. Remember how he keeps saying, I'm going to make an announcement. You're going to be very happy. He wrote that note. The note says, Kurt, you'll be very happy with me. You'll be happy with what you see. He says that all the time.
Starting point is 01:56:18 Of course I framed it. Well, sure. Why not? On a big gold frame. A garish frame, yeah. A garish gold frame. He's an interesting cat. And I've got to say, I miss the entertainment value. It was fun.
Starting point is 01:56:31 But it's been seven years, and it's a legit question. He came down to ask, it's a legit question. Is the Trump Act still the best way forward for us? Yeah, you mentioned his lack of discipline. We're talking about posing a military commander. It's got to be the most disciplined, I believe, of the choices. We haven't had a disciplined
Starting point is 01:56:51 president in a really long time. That's true. I mean, Bush was probably into discipline, but that's personal life. That's a different guy. He always seemed like a guy who probably you don't want to know what he's going on behind closed doors. No, you don't.
Starting point is 01:57:06 And Laura always has that little smile. Laura was stern and unforgiving. Unyielding. Laura Ashley dresses. Laura Ashley dresses. Wear something conservative. I want you to look like you're going to church on Easter. Oh my gosh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:25 That's hot. Gosh, you too, Pat. There we go. It's the Kurt Libby show. Yeah, I love it. I'm looking for a super jet, that's why. In the meantime, buy my book, people. Yeah, where can people get that?
Starting point is 01:57:39 We'll be back. Well, I'm glad you asked that, Ian. You can get We'll Be Back, The Fallen Rise of America at Amazon or Barnes & Noble or your fine purveyor of fine books um and i want to emphasize it is not a batan death march of people going you know if locks used to say well hobbes pointed it is not that did you do a uh did you do an audiobook version they wanted me to but i i said look no one wants to listen to me for eight hours i look, no one wants to listen to me for eight hours. I don't think anybody wants to listen to me for two hours.
Starting point is 01:58:07 I think they might. The guy driving from North Carolina to Arizona. Oh, yeah. That poor guy might drive him off the road. If his annoying nasal voice doesn't stop, I'm going to find myself at the bottom of the Grand Canyon. Yeah, that's perfect. I can't find that. There was one I really wanted to read.
Starting point is 01:58:22 Someone said that they sent the video to their aunt or like aunt or something oh i saw that yeah and they responded with like okay this is weird this stuff's like nonsense and it opened the door to conversation the key to ending the political conflict in this country is one man a hero as it were who put everything upon his shoulders twerking fat man and man, and tighty-whities. Oh my gosh. Wouldn't it be great if he was like a giant MAGA guy? That'd be so funny. He's like, I work in HVAC. He went out.
Starting point is 01:58:52 I went out to twerk because I knew I would be the red pill. I will jump on the grenade. A single tear comes from his eyes. He takes all his pills. Someone's got to do it. For America.
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Starting point is 01:59:45 So go to TimCast.com. Click sign up. Support our work. You can follow the show at TimCastIRL. You can follow me personally at TimCast. Kurt, do you want to shout anything out? Well, first of all, thank all you guys for having me out here. Lydia, Libby, Ian, and, of course, you, Tim.
Starting point is 02:00:01 I always love coming out here because I'm not surrounded by damn communists like I am in Los Angeles. Get the book. Like I said, I would like Regnery to release my family. And if I don't sell books, they will be in bondage like George Bush. But we're not going to go down that road again. Thanks for having me.
Starting point is 02:00:21 Shouting things out. I will shout out the Postmillennial. I'm at the Postmillennial every day and you should come check it out. I will shout out the Postmillennial. I'm at the Postmillennial every day and you should come check it out. I'm at Libby Emmons on Twitter and also Instagram. You can follow me at iancrossland.net. Go through that portal
Starting point is 02:00:35 to any of my social media accounts if you want to follow me there. Thank you for being a part of this up and down wild ride, man. Kurt, I love you. Thank you for coming out. Ian, you complete me. Let's do this again.
Starting point is 02:00:47 Again and again. See you guys later. It is actually so fun being on this show. It's fun. It's a good time. I literally fly across the country just to be on this show. We're happy to bring you out for sure, Kurt. Thank you guys all very much for tuning in this evening. And I wanted to say before we go
Starting point is 02:01:03 that you're not going to change the minds of hardcore leftists, but you might change the minds of people who haven't seen, for example, Trump's whole speech where he talked about the, quote, very fine people and stuff like that. People who watch the full context, often their minds are changed. Like that super chat that we did not have a chance to
Starting point is 02:01:19 get to. Very important. It is possible. Give people the full context and be patient with them. You guys can follow me on Twitter and Minds.com at Sour Patch Lids as well as Sour Patch Lids.me. We will see you all over at TimCast.com in about an hour. Thanks for hanging out. Bye guys.

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