Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #572 - Trump Declares HE'S RUNNING In Clever Way, Elon Calls For Ron DeSantis w/Vanessa Santos

Episode Date: July 15, 2022

Tim, Ian, Brett of Pop Culture Crisis, and Lydia host Vanessa Santos, CEO of Red Renegade Public Relations, to discuss Trump's non-committal comments about running for office again, AOC saying that 1/6 was an inside job, the MSNBC host saying it's time to fight our neighbors, and what a mom's to do in suburban America to stand by her values. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to TimCast IRL. I want to start this show with my heartfelt condolences to the Trump family. We got news not that long ago that Ivana Trump had passed away, cardiac arrest. And obviously she's the mother of many of the Trump children. And it's just, it's sad to hear. There's some pretty brutal videos seeing that Trump kids are very devastated by this. So I just want to say everyone here wishes them well

and we give our condolences. And we might just get into the story later on because it is it's very important but you know sad stuff as we start the show but we do have big news in the trump family outside of the the sadder news donald trump gave an interview to i think it was new york mag where he essentially announced he is running in every conceivable way that he could he said he was running without literally saying he was running. And it was brilliant.

It was so Trumpian. He's like, I've made a decision. And when I announce people aren't going to want to run because I'm polling better than them, he basically said it. So it's like, OK, we get it. You're running. The thing is, if he formally declares that he's running, it puts a bunch of laws in play. Like all of a sudden he's beholden to a bunch of FEC laws and regulations. So this is why

people always do these things so uh we'll talk about that plus you've got elon musk statements about ronald santos and we love talking about trump versus ronald santos so we'll get into that and then we got a bunch of other news ocasio cortez basically said january 6th was an inside job she said the police held the door open for that like they did and i. And I agree with her. She said she wants an investigation, a deep dive into these cops who seem to have been involved. And I'm like, yes, please.

Unfortunately, the news about AOC is completely being distracted from because Alex Stein yelled that she had a big booty. So that's the news in the cycle.

And it's so annoying. But of course, they're going to try and distract from something very important AOC said. I am with AOC 100% on that. Investigate those cops who held the door open. Get down on the J6 committee and show the world.

Cops held the door open. Who were they? Why were they doing it? We also got our good friend Malcolm Nance saying that the Republican Party has been radicalized and we may have to fight our neighbors. Now, the rhetoric is getting really crazy, so we're going to get into all that. Before we do, head over to timcast.com and become a member to support the work we're doing here. We have a bunch of new shows in the works. We have some comedy specials in the works.

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And we say naughty things and tell very funny jokes. And it's a good time. You'll also be supporting our journalists. So don't forget to also smash that like button. Subscribe to this channel. Share the show with your friends. And tonight, joining us to talk about the news is Vanessa Santos. Hello, Tim. Thank you so much for having me.

Yes. So who are you? I am the CEO of Red Renegade PR. I started my firm to be an aggressive, doesn't take no for an answer PR firm that fights wokeism wherever we find it. I make sure our clients have a voice and can be heard. Too often over the years, I've seen so many people get censored or canceled because they don't follow the accepted view. And I have worked hard to fight against that. So I put together my own team that rebels against that and gives our clients a voice. Right on. You work with some pretty cool people, I hear. I do.

A lot of prominent people, people we've had on the show, for instance. So behind some of the guests we've had have been individuals like yourself. Yes. So here you are now today on the show. I was telling Lydia earlier, I decided after I had my two boys since COVID hit, that I wanted to be a little more vocal myself with the culture war because I'm not sure I'm too pleased with the direction the country is going. Right on.

More people got to speak up. For sure. Thank you for having me. Absolutely. I'm very excited to be here. Glad to see you. We also have Brett Dasavick of Pop Culture Crisis. How's it going?

Yes, I am of Pop Culture Crisis. It would normally be Mary sitting here, but she took the night off tonight. I don't know what that's about. Normally. Well, lately. Not the last couple of days, but yeah. We do pop culture crisis, 3 p.m. Eastern Standard Time on YouTube.com. And it sounds like you were giving the Trump school of

announcing earlier with your comment about saying that you have a big announcement coming. See, everyone's announcing that they've got an announcement coming. That's right. It's very good marketing. I'm not running for president. That is not my announcement. You've announced you're not running. That's right.

Announce that you're going to make an announcement about not running. Exactly. Yes. I also have an announcement tonight. Josh19ZMapped on Twitter asked me to work graphene into the convo tonight, but Josh, I am announcing that I will not be working graphene, hexagonally latticed carbon into the conversation, unfortunately. But thanks for the request.

I am also here in the corner. I'm very excited to have Vanessa. I love the idea of bringing people forward who do some of the hard work behind the scenes that never get any kind of attention. Very important work to be done. Really like the idea of platforming people who don't often get a chance to speak. So let's get into it. We're just getting more people to speak up. Exactly.

Santa for themselves. Yes. It can be risky. Last night I was thinking, we talked about God last night a lot, and I was thinking like, you know, I can't speak for God. Obviously no one has that authority really, but it feels like it doesn't want us to just make money. It's not about money.

It's about communication, and that's a big part of it anyway. I think it's about making the world better for everyone in every possible way, improving upon this beautiful green earth. Maybe we'll talk about that stuff. Let's jump into this first story. Trump says he's made up his mind about 2024 big decision is timing of announcement. I love this. The Hill reports. They say former President Trump said he has made a decision about running for the White House. Well, in my own mind, said he has made a decision about running for the White House. Well, in my own mind, I've already made that decision. So nothing factors in anymore.

In my own mind, I've already made that decision. He added, do I go before or after? That will be my big decision. The interviewer then said midterms. And he said midterms. Let people know. I think a lot of people would not even run if I did that. Because if you look at the polls, they don't even register. Most of these people, he said,

and I think that you would actually have a backlash against them if they ran. People want me to run. He could not have said in any more clear terms he's running short of outright saying I'm running. So Trump 2024, I guess. There we go. And and i mean it is relatively early for a president to make a bold statement like this i know he didn't formally declare but even with hillary the joke the meme was she's running over and over again because she really waited as long as possible to even suggest she would run what are the legal ramifications for announcing for him you can't take money from certain people you or you can only take a certain amount of money from certain groups and people. The one, oh, it's so honorable

the way Hillary Clinton did it, right? Oh, yeah. Because she made sure to get those big fat Goldman Sachs paychecks before she announced she was running. Yeah, we know how that works.

Those very expensive speaking engagements. That's right. I feel like these laws really incentivize people to kind of hedge and hedge until like hillary clinton did she got a bunch of money and then she announced she was running it seems very shady and it seems like we're making it easier for them to do that and i don't think we should make it easier for politicians to be dishonest call me crazy so i love this from cnn it sure sounds like donald trump is running in

2024 oh come on chris saliza just say trump is running in 2024. Oh, come on, Chris Saliza, just say Trump is running. We all know. Sure does. But I'll tell you what really frustrates me about this. And what I think is actually the bigger story is Donald Trump's penchant for giving people who despise him the scoop. Why? Why does he keep helping these people? This was a big deal. His informal announcement that he's decided he's going to run and that he wants to announce soon and people may drop out. And he goes to Olivia Nuzzi of I think it's New York Magazine. And the first thing they do. Let me see if we can.

We'll pull up the story. The whole first paragraph is just disparaging Trump and smearing him with every possible negative story imaginable. He knows better than this. It's incredible. He's the guy who looked at – who did he look at? Jim Acosta. You are fake news. And then when it comes to one of the biggest announcements, does he go to Breitbart?

Does he go to Human Events? Does he go to Post Millennial? Does he go to Crowder or Timcast or any independent outlet? Of course not. He goes to the people. The first thing they do, this whole paragraph, I can try to read it fast. It's very long. All right, here we go.

Here's the first paragraph of Donald Trump's interview with New York Magazine. Donald Trump was impeached twice, lost the 2020 election by 7,052,770 votes, is entangled in investigations by federal prosecutors over the Capitol insurrection and over mishandling of classified documents and over election interference in the District of Columbia Attorney General over financial fraud of the Presidential and Agricultural Committee and the Manhattan District of Attorney over financial fraud of the Trump Organization and the New York State Attorney General over financial fraud of the Trump Organization

and the Westchester County District Attorney over financial fraud of the Trump Organization and the Fulton County, Georgia District Attorney over criminal election interference in Georgia and the Securities and Exchange Commission over rules violation and plans to take his social media company public through a SPAC and the House Select Committee on January 6th whose hearings hearings are the runaway TV ratings of the summer. Yet on Monday, July 11th, he was in a fantastic mood. Why would you give an interview to someone who's going to introduce you and your ideas in that way?

You know, I actually think that giving it to Olivia proves his priorities, which is that, you know, he doesn't really care to run for America. He cares to pick up where he left off, fighting with reporters and getting attention. I think it's a huge distraction from what we really need from a presidential candidate right now. It's unfortunate to see him doing this right out the gate. You know what this says to me? This says to me that Donald Trump has learned nothing. He's's learned nothing he always wanted the media to be his friend he

wanted them to be on his side even as he was calling them the fake news he would still give all these super combative interviews he has learned nothing i see no way that he would fire the people who need to be fired that's a good point yeah i don't think he's going to make any changes if he does run again even if he does win i I can't believe he went to New York mag for this. It's absolutely bonkers. Well, maybe for the real announcement, he'll do it with an ally. Maybe. Maybe.

Is there any way to get the analytics? It doesn't have to be an ally. It has to be somebody who's just going to give you the news, you know? Is there any way to grab analytics on this article that he that was written about his announcement that he's considering announcing announcing for president uh because he could have come on if he did it on a show like this he'd have 1.6 million views overnight and it would be his face and his voice which is what gets you elected not text except in biden's case apparently yeah well he resisted going to any alternative platforms for the longest time until he had his

own and he's very clearly resisting yeah he went to this lady holy crap take a look at this from Yeah, well, he resisted going to any alternative platforms for the longest time until he had his own. And he's very clearly resisting. Yeah, he went to this lady. Holy crap. Take a look at this from ground.news. Bias fact check. Olivia Nuzzi interacts. 92% of the news she interacts with is left-leaning.

Look at that tiny little morsel of right-wing in there, which is probably like 4% or something. And Donald Trump decided that he's going to go to the people who smear him, who defame him, who attacked him, who propped up the lies, who lied about Kyle Rittenhouse, who lied in defense of Justice Smollett, who lie about him. And then first chance they get when he sits down with this woman is she opens the entire paragraph, smearing him in every imaginable way. Because I want to make sure this point is clear. Just because people who hate Trump are trying to dig up dirt on him,

opposition research, or investigate him doesn't mean Trump did something wrong. We are innocent until proven guilty in this country. And people who are trying to smear Trump, we get it, they're going after him. But she makes it the entire introduction. I wish that he just went to, I mean, name any, any independent journalist.

It doesn't have to be a conservative. He could have just made a YouTube video and said that it did a video of just him talking to the camera. It would have been spectacular. I was going to ask who is, if you were to give an outlet other than Tim cast, who would you think, uh, who would have been a good site for him to go to? Joe Rogan. Yeah, but Joe Rogan won't have him on. Which I don't even know if I believe that.

I'm not sure about that either. Given how Rogan's been talking lately, I'm not sure if I believe that. Believe that he wouldn't have him on? That he turned him down for that reason. It just doesn't seem like him. Yeah, I heard that Joe maybe just got fed up with him.

I didn't hear that he got fed up with him. I'm imagining maybe he did. He's just like, I'm done with that guy. I don't understand why Joe would would not have interviewed trump it doesn't make sense i think he wanted to at some point he said he would host that i don't help him right but he said he would have a debate between biden and trump before the 2020 election and that never never came to fruition but i'll i'll stress this point we made last time we talked about this when joe rogan says i won't have trump on because it would help him think about what that means joe knows biden can't do it and trump would be helped by it right whether he intended to or

not he was outright saying donald trump would do well and benefit from being on this show joe biden wouldn't biden going on rogan and like for two hours three hours right three hours i don't think he could do that well jo Joe would cut him early. He can't even be trusted to walk around the White House egg roll alone, right? Yeah. Biden can't. He has to have press handling him there. No way he could handle Rogan.

We've been having this inside joke about how people complain about when they do Rogan, they have to go to the bathroom so bad when they're done that Rogan has, he loves it. He loves the fact that these people just can't go to the bathroom when they're recording. But you can go to the bathroom on bad when they're done that like Rogan has like he loves it like he loves the fact that these people just like can't go to the bathroom when they're recording. But you can go to the bathroom on Joe's show.

But they were just picturing like him being like oh we're not done yet we're not done yet and he starts playing like waterfalls in the background.

I'm probably pouring a moment on Joe's show in his hallway I believe. Oh my gosh. Sometimes they just do a cut

and sometimes if they just carry on or like Joe's smoking or whatever, they just carry on. So, I mean, people bounce from this show and go to the bathroom all the time. If you've got to go to the bathroom, go to the bathroom. You've got to go. Yeah, I mean, we're just chilling. There are times and places when not, but on podcasts, go to the bathroom.

It will add to the urgency of your performance if you don't. It's true, yeah. Anger, temperatures rise. I'm so glad to learn the bathroom policy. If Joe Biden was on with Joe Rogan, two scenarios would occur. The first is that he would probably be getting up to go to the bathroom quite a lot. The second is that he would be the one person who doesn't need to get up to go to the bathroom. He's set.

He just goes right where he is. He's got his little defense. I thought that's where you were going, but I wasn't sure. I'm right, so. You went. Okay. Could you imagine watching Rogan with Biden and then it like,

Joe says something like, but come on, man. Like, you know, Joe Rogan says, come on, you're talking about the mass printing of money. It's got to have some kind

of inflationary effect. And then it cuts to Joe and Joe's just like. Oh, no. oh, no. What am I doing here? Biden, Mr. President. One more minute. His eyes would go like really wide for a second.

No, no. Pops. His eyes. Oh, no. Not the eye. I saw a video of Biden, man. He looks worse than people realize. Poor guy.

Well, the Israel. Are you talking about him coming off the plane kind of disoriented what am i doing here it might have been that one it was he sniffs a little boy oh no i saw that but he's just over it was who was it who said he looks like the dude from hannibal oh my god i don't remember because that was land house yeah it's amazing. Dude, Biden does. And Trump, did, this is funny. We just mentioned the other day, Trump needs to announce ASAP because it puts Biden in the worst possible position. If Biden drops out due to his health or whatever after Trump runs, you know, or Trump announces,

then he's like, oh, Joe Biden ran away scared. The Democrats know they're not going to win. It will look really, really bad. And a big component to elections is many people vote for whoever they think is going to win. It's a weird thing about people in this country, especially. So that's bad. Or what if Joe bows out due to, or the Democrats pull him out? Like either way, if Trump announces and then Biden is out for some reason, the Democrats are going to lose significant support if they have any at all. Do you think that's still an issue here with this polarized climate as we have right now

that people are still voting for who they think is going to win? You know, maybe some people. I'll tell you the crazy thing. There was an article in Axios talking about the realignment, about how the Republican Party has become more diverse, racially diverse, and more working class. And the Democrats have become whiter and wealthier. It's for sure. Trump lost white votes.

That's the crazy thing. He gained votes in the black community, the Latino community, along the Rio Grande Valley. And so the Democrats are becoming the elite white liberals. So their concerns are not what regular people are concerned with. No, I mean, just looking at the big issues that they're trying to talk about, they're so obsessed with abortion and pronouns and calling people the right pronoun. And then meanwhile, real Americans are trying to get to work. They're trying to fill their tanks.

I mean, it's so out of touch. I want to play this clip for all you guys. For those big fans of Joe Biden, I got a clip for you. Steve Guest says Joe Biden tries to shake hands with nobody again. And he does. And here's the video of Joe Biden. Oh shake hands with nobody again. And he does. And here's the video of Joe Biden. Whoa, let me get the audio. Yeah, the audio is always in the wrong setting.

Time, darn it. Here we go. Here we go. We got you, everybody. Here we go. Thank you, President Herzog and President Biden. Okay, we're going to do a slow motion play-by-play. Here we have President Joe Biden at the podium.

He goes to shake the hand of this man. I don't know who that guy is. And he turns to reach his hand out. Who's over there? And there's no one there. Here's the best part. Wait, you really got to see this. He reaches his hand out to shake, pauses, and then looks at his hand like he's tripping.

Look at that. Oh, my gosh. What is he on? Then he just points. He's like, don't go this way. But it's the weirdest thing where he reaches his hand out and then he. Oh my gosh. What is he on? You see that? Then he just points. He's like, don't go this way. And then he points. But it's the weirdest thing where he reaches his hand out and then he just looks at it like, what is this thing attached to my body?

Oh my gosh. If it was Hunter, it'd be because he'd been up for three days at a time and he wasn't watching things. But it really does, and speech repeat the line, it gets harder and harder to ignore for regular people and i do think that the average ordinary citizen maybe the reason trump is not like kept his uh going the way

that things are is because he feels like any deviation from things will mix up the momentum of letting them screw up what they're doing never interrupt your enemy yeah joe biden when he ran he didn't actually run you know he kept calling a lid. And when you watch this video, he reaches his arm out. He's not pointing. He's reaching his arm out, open palm, and then he just looks at his hand. Look at that. He's like staring at his hand. Now, here's the best part.

The last time this happened, PolitiFact said, President Joe Biden was confused, turned around, and shook hands with thin air after a speech. False. How did they square that circle? They said, oh, he was just gesturing to the crowd. It's like, dude, he did it again. This is the game they play. It's like Joe Biden could fall down and start screaming, and they would be like, he was auditioning for a movie.

Actually, totally normal. The first time he ever said end of quote, they were like, he's not reading the prompter wrong he's it was part of the speech most people say end of quote when they're ending a quote then he says it again repeat line repeat the line he goes end of quote repeat the line it's dude you read the instructions it's look man that's a ron burg a Ron Burgundy moment. I was so Ron Burgundy. Last night I was praying for this man's mental health, just his health in general. As much as I understand the he's bad at his job, I want him to fail,

so let's just harp on him until he's gone, but a sick-minded president can ruin the world. So we need to support him in some way, acknowledging that he shouldn't be the president. Ian, a sick-minded president could ruin the world. He's doing it. He is ruining the world, dude. He's doing it right now.

He gave a million barrels of our strategic oil reserve. He surrendered to the Taliban. Yeah, come on. Come on, man. He gave our oil to China. Hey, China. To Sanipec. And then the media is fact-checking me being like

Tim Pool's opinion on that being a bad thing is wrong. Okay, dude. When he bit his wife's hand during the speech, dude. Remember when he was in the shower? You didn't know that? Yo, you didn't see that picture? She reaches out and then he just goes like

and bites her hand. It's amazing. That's what my cat does to me. That was still on the campaign trail. I remember when he mixed up his sister and his wife. That was weird, too. Yeah, that was weird. Yeah, we should have known. Oh, it's no big deal.

He just nibbled on his wife's finger in a bizarre campaign stop moment. Just a nibble. Just a loving nibble. That's very cute affection, right? It's a sign that there's no trouble in paradise. The Bidens are romantic and happy yeah well to be fair you know to say joe biden bites wife is a little bit over the top biden bites but i biden bites wife but i think what you see with a story like this is that he's just not cognizant of his surroundings

like he's lost his filter yeah you don't you don't do this and then everyone was like oh it was funny it was you know his wife and it's not funny yeah it's not funny it's terrifying it's not weird it's so weird look at this what is this what is this image somebody sent me that picture today and they're like why does this picture exist and i was was like, that really happened. Her hand is cold. I was hungry. Come on, man. I love fingernails. I thought it was a snack.

I don't know, dude. You know. Butterfingers. Yeah. Well, so look, look. Trump informally announces he's running. But this poll comes out, the New York Times, Times-Siena poll saying that 44 to 41 Biden wins. There's obviously other polls saying it's complete bunk.

There's another poll I was reading today that said Trump wins 43 to 41. I just can't imagine and this could be hubris that Joe Biden could beat Trump in a rematch. It's like it's one thing when Biden shows up, says I'm

going to run against Trump and then all the media does is say that COVID is Trump's fault, and then says nothing about Joe Biden. Joe Biden hides. So the only news story, and it was crazy because we mentioned this back during the campaign. I was like, if the media only focuses on Trump, then there's going to be nothing about Biden, so people will be voting against Trump. And that's what happened.

Yeah. So now Joe Biden is known to people. And they're not happy with it. Joe Biden's approval rating in aggregate is lower today than where Trump's was at the same time as presidency. And here's the best part. His approval rating is lower today than where Trump's was after January 6th. Did he lose just on the economy? Biden?

Yeah. What do you mean? Is that enough alone beyond the bizarre behavior? You know, I'd say yes normally, but Democrats are the party of the wealthy elites and they're cultists. They believe insane things. They're in a bubble. They don't know what's going on in the real world. They believe the Kyle Rittenhouse lies, the Covenant Catholic lies.

They believed Jussie Smollett. Right. house lies the covenant catholic lies they believed jesse smollett right i don't look imagine you're on a sinking ship and there's like a set someone comes and says i have a set of instructions to save the boat from sinking you're like okay and the other guy walks up to you and goes i think jesse smollett was telling the truth and i'm the one who's in charge you're gonna be like okay we're doomed right like how are we how are we going to effectively fix this thing if that guy is the one who's supposed to be like we have to argue with each other over how to save this ship yeah so on the question of the economy i actually saw and this was very unsettling to me because i've been harping

about these shootings that have been happening in red states and then in blue states with and without gun control and i said i think that this is going to mean the democrats pull alongside the republicans over the economy i think guns is going to mean the Democrats pull alongside the Republicans over the economy. I think guns are going to become more important in the economy. And sure enough, it's showing that this is bringing them up alongside the Republicans as November is coming up, just like I thought it would happen. So I don't know what's going to happen, obviously. But the fact that they have so well publicized these two different attacks, whether you have gun control or not, whether you have the armed good guy or not, whether you have red flag laws or not, you still have the same effect. I think that this has been an incredibly effective

strategy for them to push the concept of guns to the forefront of the American public's mind. Let me pull up this real quick just to drive it home. President Trump job approval from Real Clear Politics. This is the aggregate of all polling yeah i think they go back what is it like 10 polls or something uh check this out after january 6 donald trump's approval rating was 39.3 percent it tanked joe biden today is 38.6 oh my my gosh. That's remarkable. It wasn't an event that caused it either. It's just the slow decline. Yeah, it wasn't like a sharp dip like it was with Trump.

Yeah, with Trump, all of a sudden, everybody heard this thing and they were like, if a war gets started, it spikes up. If some dumb crap happens, it spikes down. But this is just an example of a president that's presiding over a sinking ship. And Ian, do you know why Joe Biden's approval dipped and his disapproval spiked above his approval rating? Do you know what was the catalyst for it?

I bet I know. Wait, which point? Oh, right there. Tell me. Is that Afghanistan? Is that the date? Afghanistan. That's right.

He submitted to the Taliban. That's a big dip, too. After Joe Biden surrendered, failed, and, I mean, this is one of the reasons I believe that Joe Biden is not the puppet people think he is. He's more, like, I'm not saying he's in charge. I'm saying he sort of is, and everyone's kind of confused. But he's still being given instruction by his aides who are trying to help him right like you can have you can hire someone to help you who tells you what to do but you're still in charge right afghanistan was such a complete and total failure that made no sense made absolutely zero sense joe biden was was in the situation room probably going oh get the airport man then they like evacuate Bagram.

The American people saw that. And after the abandoning of our troops, the, was it 13 brave men and women who were killed outside the airport? Joe Biden's approval rating has never come back. That's it. That's a good point. That was it.

That was it for me. I mean, I never really liked it. Those images of the plane, of the... Yeah, that's the Tim Haysburg. You got to talk to Tim Kennedy about what he saw. But people just need to realize this. When Ian, who has never been like a big Trump guy, is like, Joe Biden surrendered Afghanistan. Like, is that animated about it?

I think that's a good barometer for a lot of people who aren't particularly active in politics. I believe we should focus on this job of the president as the commander of the military. That is their number one job, is the commander-in-chief of the military. And if they don't have a military mind, like Donald Trump, whatever, he didn't know that they were playing shell games on him and lying to him about troop movement. Hindsight's always 20-20. I don't know what, if he could have done it better, probably could have done it better. Listening to Kurt Schlichter last night explain what a president could do to take control of his military command. It sounds not that complicated if you know what to do. But these guys didn't know what to do.

Trump didn't know what to do. Biden didn't know what to do. But will Trump really do it? You know, like we mentioned just a moment ago, he comes to these far left extremist journalists and he gives them the interview. Not only are their outlets dying and they don't get the traffic they despise the man and will lie about him and smear him. And so that's why I'm saying you don't even have to go

to a sympathetic reporter. You just go to independent media and then force the establishment to cover the scoop you gave to somebody else. Or like you mentioned, do a YouTube video. Yes, of course. Off the script just don't if you watch it back and you don't like it make a different make a new video but then upload like a candid normal video being like hey guys i've been thinking about it it's on the horizon get ready it would be people would be

lit it would be so exciting for people to see that and to see him talking straight does he have his own youtube channel i don't i don't know that would be the him talking straight. Does he have his own YouTube channel? I don't know. That would be the greatest thing ever if he just became a YouTuber. If Trump... You two would probably delete him, right? Content creator Donald Trump. Likely, but still it would be epic. I don't watch a lot of YouTube

at all. I would legit be watching the Trump channel every day. 26 million views overnight. You saw that post where he roasted Elon? And he's like, electric cars that don't go far enough, driverless cars that crash, rockets. Imagine him actually saying it to the camera. It would just be the best.

Then Elon makes a video response. I mean, people is why you watch The Apprentice. Yes. Well, okay. So it's funny you brought up The Apprentice. I was – when I got pregnant, I got super obsessed with The Housewives, and all The Housewives have appeared on The Apprentice, and a ton of them have. And I wanted to go back and watch these Apprentice.

I cannot find them anywhere. I think that whichever, I think it might have been NBC. I don't know. That could be wrong. But I think they took everything off air. It's crazy. Anyways, he was hysterical. Yeah.

He was like a comedian, like thinking back to some of the stuff that he said. Yes, I don't agree with some of the way he phrased things and how insulting he was. No, it was not presidential, but man, he could make me laugh my ass off. Do you remember when Trump blamed the lights for making him orange? Yeah. He's self-aware. Yeah, he is. And he's funny.

I have been to so many Trump rallies. They are stand-up comedy routines. It was like George Carlin, in a sense, where he's talking about mainstream political news and issues, and he was just joking about everything. And people are laughing and clapping. And I'm like, this man knows how to entertain.

And that's powerful. That's charisma. I mean, he's funnier than comedians. Because comedians are trying so hard to be these culture champions and everything now. Like watching Trump just do it, it's so funny. Only Rosie O'Donnell. It was just perfect timing. He had an answer right out the gate. Everyone burst in laughing in uproarious laughter.

So funny. He was a timing genius. Somebody said that what he should have done is built his own Oval Office White House set and then had a YouTube channel after he lost the election where he just second guesses and pretends and does all the stuff that they should do instead

and do that on YouTube. The parallel presidency. He's funny and he's self-aware, but he's not quite humble enough to make fun of himself. He'd make a parallel presidency. He's funny and he's self-aware, but he's not quite humble enough to make fun of himself. He won't really do it enough. I think if he really made fun of himself, then he'd get a lot more people on his side. I think you're right.

I think that on one hand, it's the lack of humility is what makes him a capable, not capable leader, but you have to be strong to lead in that sense. But a lot of people don't like the fact that you're very, that you don't have the ability to laugh at yourself uh that you don't have the ability to laugh at yourself or you don't have the ability to take a joke at your own expense but trump does it doesn't matter if people are in a cult they're in a cult

yeah you know it's like brandon strzok his story is really really powerful how he thought trump was all of these things and then he watched a video that proved everything he thought wrong and it was physically painful for him but he was able to break break out of it. And now he's like one of the biggest Trump supporters. I don't know as of right now, but he became one of them. But we were talking about January 6th. I want to jump to this story and I want to give a shout out right away to Tim Kast's good friend, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. We have this tweet here. She said, Remember how there was tons of footage and evidence of officers and others inside on January 6th

supporting insurrectionists? But then everyone decided it was too politically risky to investigate thoroughly. So they brushed under the rug and now we still have no idea who or what is safe. I agree with AOC on this.

I want to play you this video. There were actual officers working with this and we never got to the bottom of that, and we never got any answers about that. And then to this day, we're just supposed to pretend that that never happened. I have no idea what happened to the people on the inside who were very clearly sympathetic with what was going on and opening the doors wide open for that. And I'm supposed to sit here and pretend. Just right there. Yep. Opening the doors. Pretend that. And I'm supposed to sit here and pretend. Just right there.

Yep. Opening the doors. Like none of that ever happened. And then right afterwards, you have a massive, you know, you just have this idea that throwing money at that problem is going to make it go away. Without any accountability. And so this is where these things are breaking down. We're not safe. And it's not just about members of Congress not being safe.

The food stock workers aren't safe. The janitors aren't safe. Like, we need to get to the bottom of this. So that's all I got to say. Thank you, Congresswoman. I am thoroughly annoyed by the guy who just keeps yelling Antifa over and over again. As someone who's, like, been more critical of Antifa than many people who've spoken out and criticized them from the get-go starting with occupy wall street when we were on the ground me and my friends and the black block extremists were attacking us and then eventually they adopted the name antifa they were just the black block extremists the same people

that we know their names many of them and uh aoc is enthusiastically saying there were cops who opened the doors from the inside. She never says the cops opened the doors. She says there were cops inside. People on the inside opened the doors. She doesn't make the direct statement that there were cops opening the door. The insinuation is that there was law enforcement inside. She's saying she doesn't feel safe because she doesn't know what happened to those people who were inside, whoever they were.

She's right. The American people need to know there were people inside who opened the doors. Can we blast that message out there? Can we stop for one second and say, look, I get AOC doesn't care about antifa riots or anything like that. Fine.

But the one thing we do agree on, we want an investigation into the people who opened the doors from the inside who are they why and what does that mean for those being criminally charged aoc is on board why are people screaming at her yeah their one guy got let out of solitary i don't know if he was in solitary let out of jail because the judge said well a police officer waved you in you're not liable for trespassing or whatever they let him go and she was talking about the safety of congress of those in congress right what did what did she Well, a police officer waved you in. You're not liable for trespassing or whatever. They let him go. And she was talking about the safety of Congress, of those in Congress. What did she have to say about Supreme Court justices and expanded security?

She said, poor him or something like that. Poor guy. Yeah, she's a hypocrite. But you know what? This is the thing. There are people in a cult. A cult leader just came out and said, we have this problem. And I'm like, we got an invoice. Now we can

go to each and every one. Now I can go to every one of these co-members and be like, well, look, I agree with AOC. AOC wants an investigation into these cops and the people who open the doors from the inside. She is right about that. She is. Hands down. She's not wrong either that they're not safe. It's not a safe environment to centralize

your government anymore. You don't need to have everybody sitting inside of one building that can be surrounded. Like it's just too – not today. It doesn't make – I don't know. I'm with her, man. I want to – I don't think it's as big a deal as you think it is. One of the things we said back on January 6th was we mocked the people who tried breaking their way in saying,

why do you think that standing in a building grants you political power? It's not the 1600s. So even if they're in one building, like it's not going to disrupt to a great degree, at least the US government. I'm more intrigued by the fact that she was like, what are we just gonna throw more money at this problem and hope that solves it?

I'm like, you vote for big spending all the time. What are you talking about? You think this works for everything else, but not this. I'm looking at a priorities list, right? You got AOC has been hypocritical in terms of what happened with the violent riots there, what happened with the riots of the rest of the country. She supported

people being harassed. So she gets Alex Stein yells at her, big booty Latina. And for the most part, I think it's a non-story and it's stupid anyway. Distraction. But I'm more upset that the media is using it to distract. So it is kind of dumb.

But she gets harassed and then she's like, I was going to deck him. Oh, I can't believe he would say that to me. But then Brett Kavanaugh gets harassed and she doesn't care one bit. But I look at that and I'm like, okay, there's priorities. I will criticize her for that. But then she comes out and she hits a 10 out of 10 grand slam out of the park. People open the door from the inside. I want an investigation. I'm like, okay, there's priorities. I will criticize her for that. But then she comes out and she hits a 10 out of 10 grand slam out of the park. People open the door from the inside.

I want an investigation. I'm like, bingo. There it is. That's what we want to hear. Steve Bannon said something similar. This is months and months ago, maybe even a year ago or whatever. He was like, I want an investigation. He's like, I want a hearing.

Let's get an investigation to exactly what happened on January 6th. And I'm like, well, all right. Okay. Because the idea is a legitimate investigation. Why were there cops standing around as people pleaded for them to intervene? You see the video? The guy goes, the cops, what are you doing? Please stop this.

The cops just don't move. Why weren't there enough cops there? Where was the National Guard? Why were people opening the door from the inside? Those questions need to be answered one guy got acquitted of all charges because the judge saw a video of cops waving them in that legit waving them in we need answers i play a lot of video games crusader kings if you can get your enemy committing a petty crime you can throw him in prison and strip him of all his land

and all his titles and erase him from history. A petty crime. In Grand Theft Auto, you guys ever played GTA? You have played it. Yeah. Ian?

Grand Theft Auto. I used to love it. What you do is, in the video game, if you go up to a random person and attack them and then they fight back and you run to a police car the

police will start brutally beating the person who is attacking you so and i'm talking about trick them i'm talking about political like like your own subordinates like if you're king and it's your duke and you don't like him and you catch him doing some slander or something you can throw him yeah if if someone if someone lets him in if you open the door so that he can commit a crime you can throw that guy in prison. There's a reason to let people commit crimes for authority sometimes because then you got them. And I want to know if that's what they did. Oh, sorry.

No, I think it might have been you guys last night on the show with Libby and Kurt. But somebody raised the question, why is there only select footage being released like release everything like let's just make it make it all public take a look at this story from the daily mail secret service deleted texts from january 5th and 6th homeland securities inspector general reveals amid its internal probe why yeah they say many texts between the u.s secret service were deleted after the watchdog made a request for electronic communications, the letter states. Yo,

the right seems to think that if we get a real investigation, it'll prove that feds were involved. The left seems to think it'll prove that Trump orchestrated the whole thing. I don't care one way or the other. Alex is insinuating. I think she's the kind of mind that's like, if we get evidence that the cops let people in and incited this then we've got innocent people in prison and this is

beyond effed and and a lot of people in the establishment if that were the case wouldn't want her to turn like that they want those people insulated thinking that they were just attacked by a mob right because it's convenient i think regardless of what the the end result is if police open the doors and that and it's a fact they did there are cops who open the door and said i don't agree with it but i respect it they said that to those people there's video of a cop waving at people waving them to come in they've argued oh no the cop was waving at um other cops it's like i i don't know or care there's a video of them fanning at the Trump supporters

who then started walking in. Well, aren't there selfies? Pictures of, yeah, there's selfies. Selfies. Yeah.

If that was part of the January 6th hearings, which is not, the American people would be here, would be feel, would be feeling some, they'd be feeling very different about what happened. Instead,

I'm hearing about how people saw my clip posted by Jamie Raskin out of context and they don't know or care what I actually said. The smear is intentional. What they're doing is intentional. They are lying and manipulating. Now, the good news for us is that we're part of a new sect of media where we have massive key demo viewership. Most people who watch this are like 30. We get 18 to 54. We get it very, very well. But you have millions who are watching CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News. And Fox News, not the worst, not all that great.

That's where the old people are. And so they believe all the nonsense. Now, the funny thing is whenever the January 6 hearings are on, Fox News' ratings tank. So they just like try not to do it because nobody wants to watch that stuff manipulation and lies does do we know what the actual ratings have been for the january 6 hearings because i see a lot of like we like whenever i'm doing research for what we're covering you still get a lot of like that stuff like deadline uh hollywood reporter they're covering it because it's technically part of the the media stream right they're high but low okay like they they got like tens of millions of viewers across the board but it's relatively low compared to

every other hearing people really are tuning out from this stuff why the average person does not like joe biden this is the funny thing with joe biden at a hitting record low approval ratings down to like 37.7. I've said it before. The opportunity there, two thirds of this country doesn't like the guy. OK, make fun of him. It's a big market share, but they don't. You'd think every single person would be like, look, if I want votes, bet against Biden. Everybody hates him.

Instead, they're not doing it. They're passively and behind the scenes being like, we need to get somebody else. But where the late night hosts to be like, ladies and gentlemen who watch this show, I know you all hate Joe Biden. Because even Democrats don't want him to run. But for some reason, they just keep propping him up. I thought watching Colbert really go at Kamala Harris on that interview. It was like a year ago or something. He's like, when you were running against Joe Biden, you said horrible stuff.

He's like, it was a debate. He's like, like so what it's okay to lie if it's a debate but steve he hasn't like come out and be like i cannot stand that woman she lied she put like i want to see him honest about his feelings for kamala harris well i want to know what happened to kamala because it seems like when she was running against him she she was in a Chad Felix Green. I follow him on Twitter. I love his tweets. He's very smart. But he tweeted the other day this point, basically, which was, you know, we saw a woman who was so well spoken.

She was, you know, she would cut your throat, you know, and now her sentences don't even make sense. It's just strange. Yeah, that's true. She seemed so targeted and so fearless, and it's just strange to see what's happened to her. It's like every step she's about to fall into, it feels like she's about to fall into lava, is what it looks like.

Yeah. She's just so nervous to say the wrong thing that she just says these ridiculous circular statements. Circular. Yeah. Yeah. That's strange. That is interesting.

I hadn't thought about that, but you're right. Yeah. She was a prosecutor. She was an ambitious woman. I don't have a high opinion of ambitious women, but they get stuff done. Well, you know, I always thought of her as like somebody who really speaks a lot and like declarative sentences. Right, right.

It's like, I'm going to cut to the chase. This is the point that that. And now it's skirt around in circles and say nothing. And it's very weird to see it. She's expected to live a lie now because she really didn't like Joe Biden and was very overt about that during the debates. And now she's got to pretend like it. So it's make when you live a lie, people become crazy, nervous wrecks. I mean, that's that's to me, it seems like it's the only explanation. I mean, but you know, if if if they don't run Biden, I mean, what is she doing for her political future at this point,

if she can't even make a sentence? I don't get it. Yeah, there's no way she got to where she is today by using those weird autocorrect predictive text sentence style of speaking. She used to be very like, I feel like she was evil in the way she worked, but she worked. She worked. She got stuff done. She made people, you know, work for free. She enslaved people.

Right. But she did all of these things competently, whatever you thought of what she did. And now she's like, I think you're right. I think she's terrified. And you're right. She's not doing anything for her political future. All she's doing is picking fights with people in the White House.

Like people, it's an incredibly toxic workplace. Like working with an ambitious lady like that is very toxic there it becomes a very um it becomes an entangling battle of wills where they feel like they're being slighted over every little thing and it's like how are you supposed to make progress with that and there's no way for a lady like that to do to for example get into office nobody wants her for president she I believe she's far less liked than even Joe Biden. And that's way less liked than Donald Trump was at this point. She does give off incredibly nervous energy. Like somebody who starts talking but forgets what they're about to say and has to kind of make it up as they go.

You know what I mean? Yeah, it's like that Michael Scott quote. Sometimes I start a sentence and I forget where I'm going. I don't know where I'm going. Keep making it up. All of that sounds like that. When she does the circuit of logic, that's what it sounds like to me. No, I completely agree. It's got to be psychologically debasing to know that you were selected for your office

because of the color of your skin. Right. If they were like, we need a guy with long hair. Ian, you can do it. I'd be like, well, that blows. I do meet the requirements. I guess, thanks. Well, that's kind of how I feel about their press secretary.

She was literally chosen because of her skin color and her sexual orientation. It's degrading. Can I read some inspirational quotes for you guys? Do you find it? From Kamala Harris? Yes, let's do it. My favorite. We must together, work together, to see where we are, where we are headed, where we are going, and our vision for where we should be, but also see it as a moment to, yes, together,

address the challenges and to work on the opportunities that are presented by this moment. Here's another one. What else do we know about this population? 18 through 24. They are stupid. I remember that. Inspiring. Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger

country. Russia is a powerful country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine. So basically that's wrong. She's reading children's books. She's an auto text robot. It's like chat bots are more more inspiring this is my favorite quote from her it is time for us to do what we have been doing and that time is every day i mean it could be worse she didn't say end quote repeat the line that's true that's a good point what is what is which is worse yeah it's pretty bad yeah we all watched the television

coverage just yesterday that's on top of everything else that we know and don't know yet based on what we've just been able to see and because we've seen it or not doesn't mean it hasn't happened what what predictive text generator oh my gosh it's time for us to do what we've been doing and that time is every day. I'm so inspired. Oh man, that's amazing. Deep thoughts. Is there just something going around this White House that makes people lose their ability to communicate?

Is that just the leftism? Is it just nervous energy? I actually, like, it's like, um, like she even had her posture even seems like her shoulders are super tense. Yeah. I mean, like, yeah, it doesn't seem like she's actually ready for any of her public interactions.

What we must do. She's kind of looking down a lot. What we must do. Yes. Today with these times is do what we've done. When we need to. You really had me for a second. When we are in times like now. Yes.

I am inspired. Those are fun to say. Vice President Tim Pool. Well, it's fun because everyone's listening to you and they're looking at you and you know you're not saying anything. And so it's just like, keep looking, Dave. Let's go with it. Got you all.

Oh, man. All right. All right, all right. Take a look at this story from Breitbart. This is great. Tim Kess, good friend, Malcolm Nance, says, GOP becoming an insurgency. We may have to fight our neighbors. Okay.

Whoa. Well, guys, I'm worried because Malcolm Nance, he's got a gun. And I saw that picture of him in military gear when he went to Ukraine. And, you know. Terrifying. He knows what he's doing. This is interesting. Are we going to listen to this Malcolm Nansen speaking at all?

Well, it's five minutes of him just like diarrhea-ing from his mouth. Essentially, he's talking about the United States. Is diarrhea-ing a word? I like it. I know, but it should be. It's a good verb. He's not wrong that we are facing some sort of insurgency, but I believe it's a Federal Reserve. not wrong that we are facing some sort of insurgency but i believe it's a federal reserve it's a fascist attempt at a coup basically since 1913 you know rockefeller jp morgan they wanted

control of the country so they created this this private bank to run our our finances and we have yet to break free so in that he's right we are in trouble and we have been co-opted but he points the finger at donald trump which is very annoying because i feel like it's the bank the banking industry he thinks it's people at parent teacher annoying because I feel like it's the bank, the banking industry. He thinks it's people at parent-teacher conferences. Right. He thinks it's his neighbors. That's terrifying.

I think Ian's thinking correctly when he says it's someone above us who's trying to pit us against each other. I think that's correct. I'm just imagining Malcolm Nance walks out of his house and there's a guy in khaki cargo shorts with a tucked in polo shirt. And he goes, howdy neighbor. And Nance goes, ah, brutally attacking him.

That's fake gun. You're far right. So let me, let me, I want to read this quote, but I really don't want to. He said, you can call what is happening

an insurgency. We have heard that term in foreign wars recently in Iraq. Today we, he says, to talk about why you apply the term insurgency to what you see here as a persistent, ongoing threat of domestic extremists. Oh, that was, to talk about why you apply the term insurgency

to what you see here as a persistent and ongoing threat of domestic extremists. That was Zerlina asking him. He said, I was reading their forums. I was reading their own intelligence about what they intended to do.

It was pretty clear at that point that they were going to try to either overthrow the government or they were going to settle in for a long-term series of destabilizing actions using a political party, the Republican Party, as their political base and then using violence, threat of violent extremism, I just want to say it.

The goal of January 6th, we thought, was to stop Trump from running. It really does feel, in my opinion, the goal is to start a civil war. That's what it sounds like. Yeah. The end result of a non-adversarial just smear campaign, show trial, it is similar to the things we've seen

in other countries when people are trying to destabilize and destroy a government. It makes me think of the burning of the Reichstag and what Hitler did.

Well, we don't know that Hitler burned it down. This is different. He said the communists did it. No, no, no. This is more like the French Revolution. It's a show trial.

It's bringing people up. Then no one defends any of the individuals. No one's given a chance to. Most people don't want to. And then they lie, cheat, and steal to present their case to try and seize power. Yeah, I don't think like with the Reichstag, I think Hitler did it. He just chose. He's like, I'm going to do it, and I'm going to lie, and then I'm going to strip them of their rights.

And in this case, no one did it. He just chose. He's like, I'm going to do it and I'm going to lie and then I'm going to strip them of their rights. And in this case, no one did it. It just happened. But they're using the experience as an opportunity to throw people in jail without a trial, to enhance security. I don't think that's the goal of January 6th. They already threw people in jail without a trial, put them in solitary. January 6th is fomenting

discord in this country. It is convincing people of nonsense, psychotic BS like this. Malcolm Nance is radicalized. He is as radicalized as you can be. He's saying he needs to fight his neighbors. Yo, if I were to have told you six years ago that MSNBC personality would go on TV and say, we may have to fight our neighbors, would you have believed me? You'd be like, oh, come on. Then if I said, the year is 2015. It's been seven years.

Nobody believes Trump's going to win. And you go back in time and you go to any random person and say, seven years from now, several presidential administration officials, former officials, will have been arrested by the incoming administration.

Prominent MSNBC personalities will be talking about civil war, and one of them will say we may have to be fighting our neighbors. A man walking down the street in Portland will be shot twice in the chest by a man with a communist tattoo on his neck, the red salute. Nobody would have believed you. And today, people are acting like nothing crazy is happening. It's like, stop being the frog in the boiling pot.

The average person doesn't know about the guy getting shot with the – that's my biggest problem. It's like most of my friends, if they're not politically partisan, the ones that I don't agree with but we can at least agree to disagree, the average person just doesn't know that stuff is going on. If it's not being – you talked about Donald Trump report going to these sites that hate him to get his message out there. That's part of the problem. But these other sites, they're not talking about this. You know, when that happened, I still remember that. Nobody heard about that in the regular news. Nobody around me.

I think that's the problem, too. You know, these people don't want to be political. You know, it's doomsday news all the time, all the time. They think they're leading this happy life. But, you know, ultimately, they're not time. They think they're leading this happy life, but ultimately, they're not voting. They're not doing anything. And the next thing you know, their kids are coming home with these crazy messages. I don't know. I wish I felt like I could be non-political, but I care too much. And I think you guys obviously do. That's why we're here. Yeah, we had this. Tim tweeted this

Plato quote about if you don't get involved in politics, the politics will get involved with you. Well, he says the penalty for not being involved is to be ruled by evil. And then you juxtapose that with Danton who said, I'd rather have been a poor fisherman than to have meddled in the politics of man. What I started thinking is Danton was cynical.

He was angry and violent the entire time, and he was just lashing out, of course you're supposed to be involved with politics. Let me read these quotes. Plato said, the price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. Correct.

And Danton said, oh, it were better to be a poor fisherman than to meddle with the government of men. That is not true. That is an F you to people because he was angry that they were about to execute him. That's right. He knows you have to be involved in the political process.

You don't have to be partisan, but you need to be involved in what's going on. You need to know what's going on and be willing to communicate and be willing to listen. It is the basis of our government is that we, the people created this thing together and we're running this thing. Yeah. I think that's a personal reflection on the part of D'Anton. I think it was very,

a sense of deep regret and frustration that he did what he did. I don't know if he ever realized or said that it was something that needed to be done. But at the end of the day, even if you regret doing something, sometimes it is far better

to have done that thing than to have not done it. Man, no better example of living by the sword and dying by the sword or dying by the sword than Robespierre and Danton. Yeah, I was thinking last night the U.S. Revolution, the French Revolution. And the Frenchmen, they had it tough because the king was there with them on their soil. Like we were far away. And they had – they ended up cutting all these people's heads off with the guillotine.

Like could they have won that revolution if they hadn't done that? I don't know. Well, that's the danger of monarchy. It makes people crazy and desperate. Think about the Russian Revolution. Not Russian, but Soviets or however you call it. Russian Revolution. When they brought the royal family and were like,

yeah, just wait here, and then later came back and just killed them all. Yeah. They were like, the problem is if you're around, you'll have influence, so you're dead. These people are dangerous, crazy people. The French Revolution around, you'll have influence, so you're dead. These people are dangerous, crazy people. The French Revolution is, man, you got to read about that.

I've only read a little bit, but I'm reading more and y'all should read about it because it was a group of people. There was anger in the streets. They were starving. So they have a revolution. It happens.

Then a bunch of different factions are all in a Mexican standoff over who's going to get, who's going to chop off whose head. And they all start executing each other. And then finally Robespierre gets it, and they're like, yay, we finally killed the last person who was trying to get power. Creepy.

And then Napoleon seized command and became an emperor. That's what happens with that nonsense. That's great. And then you get the Napoleonic Wars. How about that? We do not want to fight our neighbors, to be clear. The Nazis separated people from their neighbors. The clear. The Nazis separated people from their neighbors. The communists in Russia separated people from their neighbors.

They had their neighbors spying, turning in their neighbors, their kids turning in their parents. So I understand Nance's frustration and fear. I get that he is afraid, but right now you need to be communicating with your neighbors and creating community with your neighbors. If you run out of food, you need to make sure that your neighborhood is secure together and that you all have enough food to eat. You need to import the food, make sure the roads are clear, have community watch. I think Malcolm Nance saying this is a sure sign that he hasn't talked to another actual person

outside his bubble in a very long time. There are a lot of normal people still out there who just want to take their kids to school without masks. They'll argue about that with other people. They're not terrorists. They're working. They're trying to provide their family with a living. They don't have time to engage with local school board who has time. Let me read what he said. He said, a year and a half ago when I was calling this an insurgency, people were saying that's crazy.

This isn't an insurgency. This isn't like Iraq. It's not like Libya. It's not like Syria. Well, it is. It's well in its way. It's closer to the beginnings of the Irish Republican Army. You know Irish Republicanism, where

now the Republican Party is Sinfine. Is that how you pronounce it? Sinfine? And it's just a matter of seeing who comes up as the original Irish Republicans in this story and starts carrying out acts of violence to affect change. That's already happening with Antifa. It's been happening.

So we are well on our way to a multi-year campaign that we are already two years into this campaign, where we may have to fight them. The they in my title and the they in my title is those who want to kill Americans are your neighbors. That's so horrible.

We don't have a king, man. We don't have a monarch. Oh, I think this is a typo from breitbart maybe the they in my title and those who want to kill americans are your neighbors or i don't know okay he might have referred to a they in the title of his article but yeah to me it just sounds like he's calling you to go out in the streets and uh get into it with your own neighbors which is insane the irish republicans wanted out of the British Empire. They were stuck under imperial rule. They didn't like it. That's not what we're going through right now.

We're suffering a bank default, basically. The people on the left think that it's a white supremacist 1619 government and they, look, Hugh controls the past, controls the future. Is that the saying? Yeah. No, that's not what it is.

Is it? Let me look it up. Not sure. That sounded right to me. Yeah, is that what it is? Yeah. Because there's like a full quote. It's like,

he who controls the future controls the present or something. Or controls the present controls the future. The present will be controlled by those who in the past lived in the... I'm sorry.

You're talking about Harris now. Vice President Harris? Is that you? Do you have the quote? No, I'm pulling it up. Sorry, my phone's really slow. I had to update it. You're like all the Harris now. Vice President? Harris? Is that you? Do you have the quote? No, I'm pulling it up. Sorry, my phone's really slow. I had to update it. You're saying who writes the history books is predominating in the future?

You go to people and say, hey, did you know that guy stole from you? And you go, he did? Yeah, he stole from you. Why did he steal from me? Because of your race. But I can't do anything about that. You should beat beat him up and that's what you end up getting you get these extremists who are advocating for this crazy stuff okay here's the quote who controls the past controls the future who controls the present controls the past yeah there you go yeah works out that's

powerful and that's what we're seeing with people like Malcolm Nance. Yeah. The idea, it's possible he's just so dumb that he doesn't know how to read or he doesn't want to read. I don't buy that anymore. Yeah. I used to be one of the people that gave people the benefit of the doubt and thought, you know, maybe they just don't know what they're talking about. Maybe they're zombies. I don't. I don't buy that anymore. Yeah, I don't think so.

Yeah, so if that's the case, then it's intentional. He's intentionally trying to manipulate the facts, the data, history to cause people to be violent. This is the point I was making with my op-ed in Newsweek. Jamie Raskin, who represents a district like two miles away from us, who represents some of the employees here at TimCast, was spreading disinformation to radicalize people because they want violence. Yeah, so his article reads more like a wish than a warning it sounds like this is exactly what he wants it's what he's been gunning for he's been sounds like calling for it for a long time the idea that he said that incredible that we that we what he says that uh where we may have to fight them that's outright

psychotic like i get it you do want to prepare for the worst you want to be that's why people arm themselves in the u.s and we have the second amendment a big part of is because if if you get a totalitarian government could be your neighbors or whatever you need to be able to defend yourself i understand the sentiment but there's a there's a there's like a a point where preparing and living in fear no longer is defensive but becomes offensive. And we got to make sure that people that spew rhetoric like this do not incite people to attack their neighbors preemptively. So Vanessa, I'm really curious what your thoughts on this are as a suburban mother of young children. What do you think of this idea that someone's actively trying to sow discord

between you and the people who literally live next door to you? Yeah, I mean, I already feel outnumbered by my community, because I'm I lean conservative, obviously. And, you know, I'm smack in the middle of DC, a suburb in DC. And, you know, it's funny, somebody made a comment about how you can tell who the conservatives are, because they're the ones who are flying the American flags. And, you know, somebody asked me when I was going to vote, you know, would you put the person's name up in your yard? And the answer was no. I really don't want my neighbors to know my politics. I don't want to have the conversation. I've got a nice big Jeep that I don't want my neighbors to know my politics. I don't want to have the conversation.

I've got a nice big Jeep that I don't want messed with. This is why the cult forms because these people, they think. It makes me not want to engage, and that's what's scary. What I'm saying is if they don't ever see it, they assume it's fringe or doesn't exist. Yeah. And there's probably a bunch of people in your neighborhood who do agree with you. But the people who are in the cult think everyone thinks the same way they do because you don't want to put signs up in your yard. If I did not have two very small children, I would be a little more fearless about it. But I don't, I mean, I don't want I don't want my stuff smashed,

because somebody sees, you know, maybe if I was supporting Trump, I don't want them seeing a Trump sticker, you know, whoever runs, I suppose the issue then is, if you think you can keep your head down, and they won't come and smash your stuff, you're wrong. And by your unwillingness to actually stand up for yourself is only making the problem worse. No, I mean, that's a fair, I mean, you know, and I work with some different groups who are recruiting parents to run for school board. And that's, you know, this is the big conversation that they're having too, which is, you know, how, like, are you going to be too scared to get up in your community to really, like, help kind of take back the education system it's it's it's this is what i'm saying though as a suburban mom it is scary because you

you have to worry about about your kids and how your kids are going to fit in and how people are going to treat your children and that's why um i also think well i also think that my demographic is the hardest to figure out where we're at politically because most women i think feel my way it's like we're gonna vote how we vote but we don't want to talk about it why would you want your kids hanging out with their kids no you're right they're gonna be grooming your kids this is a conversation that i've had with my husband too about leaving leaving the area and going to a red state. Even Eastern West Virginia, and it's funny to say Eastern West Virginia,

the schools have been infiltrated by the woke. Because when they run for school board, they don't put any affiliation and they know they have to lie. When the Republicans were questioning those witnesses the other day and they refused to condemn infanticide. It's because they know if they admitted their position,

people would recoil in horror. So they know they have to lie. So what happens is in these West Virginian schools, you have wokeness, critical race theory, gender ideology, and they tell the kids, hide it from your parents. It's even in West Virginia. You've got to go deeper into West Virginia to get away from it. And there's been a big backlash

where locals finally started figuring out what was going on with their kids. And now people are pulling their kids out. That's a big thing that's happening. So I come from a single mom home. And, you know, we used to kind of joke. I mean, she was able to make it to all my soccer games. She made it to all my sporting events. But she worked her butt off all the time to make sure that my sister and I were supported. And there was one time I was busting her balls,

and it's probably not even fair for me to have done this looking back now, but she could name my math teacher one year. And how many, I mean, these parents who work, these parents who don't have the capacity to engage with school boards, all this stuff, I mean, this critical race theory and the gender ideology teachings, it's happening and parents have no idea. And I actually think it's worse with these more rural schools without so many eyes on them because they have staff that aren't really being checked. Like, you know, a teacher can probably get away with more because, you know, the parents aren't as tuned in. The school board's not as tuned in.

They can kind of, I don't know. I know that there was some teachers kind of in rural Wisconsin who were getting in trouble for this. And anyway, to your point, though, my husband and I have talked about leaving. And yeah, it's hard. West Virginia. It's a great place to be. You made a good point that it's fiscal, that people can't afford to spend time to go to their child's school.

My mom was involved because she had the luxury of having a husband that worked. Probably the only reason. If she had to work, she never would have been. She couldn't have done it. So it's an economic thing. A lot of this is economic. And you have no obligation to stage your partisanship publicly. We have secret ballots for a reason.

People that want a virtue signal with signs in their yard, you're welcome to, but no one is expected to do that. Well, that's why the joke in my neighborhood is that the people who are the ones, you know, flying American flags, which I do, that's our way. It's more subtle, but I don't think it's really even that subtle. I think everyone in the neighborhood thinks that. I told Seamus Coughlin to put a rainbow flag behind him on the show, and he said, I think that would send the wrong message.

And I said, why? Because the rainbow is God's covenant to Noah that he would not flood the earth again. And so I said, why would you, why would you like not fly do that so right now you have people who are saying i will not express my support for what i believe in other than to subtly and secretly do it in a way like flying the american flag okay well i i will say that for a lot of conservatives politics is not our religion it's nowhere close to our religion and the way the left views politics it is is their religion. And so, you know, I want to be judged by my Christian faith. I want to be judged by, you know, just not who I vote for. And for me to brand my home, my car, whatever, with these campaign signs, with these campaign stickers, it's basically asking for this engagement with somebody who doesn't see the fight the same way I do. Does that make sense? Totally. Yeah. And there's more than two political parties also. Some people are blinded into the left-right paradigm. Well, and that's the other thing too. I have never, like in the last few elections, there has not been a candidate who

I do fully support, who I do want to fly a flag for, hang up a sign for, because I don't, I'm not wholly behind that person. And so I guess that's, that's another answer to your question. But you know, when the left view, when the left views politics as religion, and I don't, it takes away my will to fight because it's like I'm fighting with a crazy person who does not have even the same value system as i do but engaging these people is extremely important it's beyond uh a different value system i remember watching uh something when i was a little kid i remember what it was but it was something about religion maybe it was like something i watched in

school and it was a christian who was captured in a conflict with uh muslims like it was like a crusades thing or something like that and they told him to renounce his god and he said no and they were like if you don't renounce your god will kill you and he said then i'll die and they kill him and i thought that was so dumb i'm like you're saying words you're just saying words like you will live if you just say oh yeah oh man oh wow you're so right. I totally do. And I never understood because I think, you know, try and survive. But now seeing what's going on in this country and in this world with the woke, psychotic, you know, nonsense and watching Star Trek The Next Generation,

how many lights are there? And now I get it. You know, so you see these people. It's not, it's not just a difference of values. It is, you see,

you see the color blue, they see the color green. They literally do not see the same thing as you. Yeah. And so it doesn't matter what you say to them. They will get violent

and they will, they will, they will attack you because they're in a cult and they're in a violent cult. Wreck my Jeep. It matters what you say. You can,

you can communicate. If they see a symbol, then that's going to be challenging. Because like, for instance, this Nazi swastika was like remnant of like a Hindu symbol of the wheel of life. It's like a mirror image of it. So if I were to put a mirror image of the swastika behind me, that's not going to put forth a good message, even though I know it's a symbol of peace. It's going to piss a lot of people off.

I was in Austin, and there's an antique shop. It's a famous antique shop, and they got swastikas all over the joint. They're the real ones, not the Nazi one. They're the inverted Hindu ones. And I asked the guy about it, and he said, he's like, oh, yeah, I got it on my key chain. We've got mugs here. And he's like, in the early 1900s, these were all over everyone's houses. They were good luck symbols.

And then I was like, you're not worried about people seeing that? And he's like, in the early 1900s, these were all over everyone's houses. They were good luck symbols. And then I was like, you're not worried about people seeing that? And he's like, nope. And I was like, oh, okay. That's what I'm saying. I think that's bold to be willing to be like, I assert what this means and do something about it. I think there's a time and a place to utilize symbology for your cause because if the temperature was right politically or mentally- Symbolism.

That I could- That was a Boondock Saints reference. Sorry, I had to do it. I could show the swastika, reverse mirror image swastika. I could do it if the environment was ready for it. Yeah. Then you can have the discussion and show the symbol. But otherwise, it's like a spark with wet wood.

It's not going to set anything. It's not going to catalyze anything. It's just going to – people are like, why are you setting that? Why are you trying to – so I'm going to make the symbol for individual liberty, personal responsibility, and freedom like a puppy or something. It's going to be like a little dog playing with a toy. Golden retriever? And that's all it will be. A baby golden retriever on a flag because we have the means to print these beautiful images on flags

these days yeah and then people will be like marching angry like like with this flag with like a little golden retriever puppy like playfully playing well that's basically what the left does right like they they wrap their craziness and pretty untouchable packages and then uh we're all evil for going against that. Yeah, like the Cato Ninetales. Each lash is a different color as they flog you with it. That's a great idea. See, before we move on, I did want to say,

I know it's different when you ask a mom what she wants to do about it than when you ask a dad what he's going to do about it. Because moms take a very different approach than dads can and should. And I also wanted to say that I think this is a deeply cultural problem because, like Ian was saying, it does require two incomes to survive. Like very much where we are, especially, it's very expensive to live. I know the cost of living isn't cheap. Both parents have to be working to some extent. And I understand it's hard, but at the same time, you could flip it on its head and be that person who's so nice, so friendly, and so involved in the community that

when they find out that you support someone like, I don't know, Youngkin or Ron DeSantis. That's kind of always my goal. Right. You know, I always kind of find that I have a very, very close-knit group of friends. And I do have a lot of friends, guys. But, you know, those who I know feel differently than I do politically, I kind of wait. Right. And it's almost like I have this personal moment where I come out to them and I get

to kind of break it to them like, look, I know you respect me as a person, as a mom, as a friend. I respect you. And it's sad, but it feels like in this area, because everybody is so hyper political, you have to kind of earn that trust first as a as somebody who leans conservative before you break it to them i good thing i got an idea oh boy you do is you hold a local community gathering and you say it's going to be a big coming out party for pride or something yeah when people show up with my puppy dog flag what they're going to see is you get you get a

venue with a bunch of tv, and on all the TVs are like rainbow flags. And then once everyone's inside, you say, everyone gather around for a group photo. And then you press a button, all the TVs turn to Trump 2024. And then a bunch of Trump flags unfurl, and you start taking pictures. And that's it. And then you post them all on Facebook. There you go.

Instead of gender reveals- Montgomery County. Instead of gender reveals, you County. Instead of gender reveals, you have political party reveals. Yes. But think about what would happen, right? That's what it feels like. Truly.

All these woke people show up and they're all standing there smiling for a photo that says Trump 2024 just across the walls, banners. And then you post it online. They're going to be like, I swear that's not what I was there for. They're going to be like,

you're lying. You're a Trump supporter. You're canceled. It would just cause so much discord because the left likes eating each other, destroying themselves, that it would eviscerate. There was a guy who was going to all the protests in 2020 and putting Trump stickers on the back of all their cars. Someone got attacked for that, I think.

Yeah, I think so. There was a video of a woman that threw a brick through a window because someone put a Trump sticker on her car at the protest or something like that. That's crazy. That's vandalism, by the way. It is. Yeah, don't put stickers on people's cars. It's very bad.

Yeah, that's not your property. But in this area, even before January 6th, the 2020 election was so freaking polarized. There's no way anybody in my neighborhood, even if they were a Trump supporter, would have admitted it with a yard sign or something. Because you are asking for a brick through your window. You're asking for it. That's why we have secret ballots, because people would get lynched in the past for that

kind of thing. Yep. You're going to know. Yeah, but what you do is, it's so simple. You are right, though. I mean, activism is so important. You have to make the case. You have to fight for your communities.

You have to run for school board. You have to fight back. Do you live in like a residential area with like next door neighbors right next to you and everything? So what you got to do is you got to buy what's called a ghillie suit. Do you know what a ghillie suit is? Oh my gosh. For a sniper, right? Yeah. It's like a bush cut. Yeah, that's what I thought it was. I was like, is he saying this? Okay. You put the signs up in your yard and then you get a couple of your friends, maybe your husband and his friends, and they just lie out and wait. And then when someone comes by with the brick, they just walk up very politely and just grab

the brick and say, no. Well, I could also home alone them, right? No. Okay. Macaulay Culkin. That's illegal. Apparently booby trapping your house is illegal. No, no, no.

She's talking about when the mannequins are like dancing. Oh, that you can do. Well, what's that crazy movie he plays with the Tommy gun? Oh, yeah. That's not a real movie.

That's actually made for you. Oh, okay. Well, we can still get the audio. I agree with the audio. You use the movie from Home Alone. Yeah, filthy animal. Yeah, there you go.

Joe Pesci's best. Yeah. Who's the other guy that played the two robbers? Joe Pesci and Daniel Stern. What an amazing voiceover actor. Love him. You know, he directed Rookie of the Year, the baseball movie. You can throw the ball around here.

It's the only time I remember. Yeah. Movie moment with Brett. Yeah, and he was the voice of the adult dude on Wonder Years, right? Wasn't that him? Yes. Yes. So we had a security issue.

I'm not going to say exactly where, but personal. And we have ghillie suits because Luke bought ghillie suits. He looks great in ghillie suits. And then I was like, all right, let's do this. And then the issue stopped. So we never actually had a chance to get the guys out in ghillie suits to go lay in the fields. You got to do a whole show in them. One whole show just sitting here.

Luke wanted to do it. Yeah, let's. Luke wanted to do it. He's like, everybody should wear a ghillie suit. Talking bullshit. I do want to point out that you mentioned the part about the American flags. I remember during the election, Rogan O'Hanley, the DC Drano, he pointed out, he said, is it weird that lately just seeing an American flag, I automatically assume that they're Republican?

I said, eh, because I'm not a Republican, and I know I have friends who are. My last boss at my last job was a blue dog Democrat, believed in owning firearms, but was so anti-Trump it was hard to believe. I said, I don't think that's necessarily true, that somebody is just because they support the American flag or that that means that they're Republican but I definitely think that it does mean a lot to say that they probably aren't far far left because they're the ones who every time you have to post something for 4th of July there's that one dude who has to come into your page and be like why would you post that hate symbol on the flag in your thing they're just there to ruin everything well I think that's kind of what the the issue is is that everything is such a slippery slope now into the culture wars. And it's like, okay, well, I want to support Black Lives Matter.

And then that turns into now I can't stand for the anthem. And now the flag is offensive. And you have to support infanticide. And you have to support infanticide. It's a whole package deal. Yeah. And it's, yeah, it just just everything feels like such a freaking slippery slope now and nobody wants to touch any issue shamus made a good point he said if anything the left's proven it's not a slippery slope at all it's a sheer cliff and it's just straight down do you think the average person is is clued into abortion beyond the idea that they just think it's uh i i hung out in new york

with a friend of mine i've known for a really long time, and he talks politics sometimes. And he said, this is crazy that they're going to be banning abortion and stuff like that. He wasn't – and he wasn't as ignorant to think that the Supreme Court decision did that. He was talking about the states. Okay. And I said, yeah, I was like, I get it because there are certain issues where there have to be exceptions and stuff like that. But look, man, what's the alternative? The Democrats legalize abortion to the point of birth?

And he goes, what? No. And I was like, that's the bill they just tried to pass in Joe Manchin block. And he goes, no, that's not true. You got to be wrong. And I said, okay, here, read it. And he read it and he goes, what? And I was like, it says post-viability abortion if the mother's

health is threatened right and he goes yeah yeah that's like a medical issue and i said what does post-viability mean and he's like what is it i'm like it means the baby can survive on its own and he's like okay and then i'm like here's the cdc definition of abortion it ends the life of the baby and then i'm like this bill legalizes ifizes if the mother is in any way at risk, you can terminate the life of a baby that can survive on its own. And he was like, I don't know. This doesn't make sense. This can't be right. And I'm like, bro, I read this stuff all day, every day. I just showed you. What more do you have to say? Well, it's like 100% agenda setting theory. I mean, this is, it's totally, the mainstream media, the media,

knows that that is not what people should hear to support them, so they just don't cover it, and then people don't know. And that's, like, for me, this is one of those things where I didn't get as much pushback on my social media of people talking about Roe v. Wade, as much as I thought I would,

but there was a couple of people who I was actually surprised talking about it in a sense. I was going to bring up, you know, Northam tried to introduce this ages ago. And then you just, then you get into what you're talking about. Then you have to have this long conversation with someone like, I don't have the time of day.

I'm freaking busy during the day. I can't sit here and write and tell somebody what post-birth abortion is. Like, you can't abort something that's been finished that literally makes no sense. But then I have to explain that to them and I don't have the time of day to do that. It's always a two-step process.

You can't just say what your position is. You have to first explain to them why they're completely misled and confused. And frankly, it's a lot of work and it's a really good way to lose friends. And I think that's a big part of the problem is people just don't have the time of day, and doing that communication digitally doesn't help because I know you've talked about a lot.

The concept of conversing with someone in person is a lot different than the concept of trying to talk to someone online where there's no context, where there's no tone of voice. Yeah, well, no, even people you like, you generally like or get along with, your tone of voice can't be discerned, your body language can't be discerned. And having such a serious discussion about a topic that important when you've got 20 minutes free on your lunch break isn't viable. It's not a real thing.

For instance, me and Elijah Schaefer, he's like one of my best, I think he was one of my best. I love the guy. But when we're in text, man, do we oil and water. It is not, we do not have the same style. And I'm like, I'm just not going to like, because I know he's joking, but it doesn't seem like that in text. So I don't, I'm just not messing with that crap. And that feeling is just the worst.

He messaged you and he's like, hey, you smelly hippie. Yeah, exactly. And then we'd hug, you know, in real life. No, but that feeling is the worst when you get a text and, you know, you can feel like the hair stand up on the back of your neck. You know it's just ugly territory that it's going. But who has the time to meet with these people and have like, let's go out to coffee and talk politics. That sounds like something my dad wants to do that I don't want to do.

I think if within a week of your life you're able to help one person open up their mind, that's enough. If everyone can do that, that's enough. Well, and that's why local elections and school board elections and stuff are so important. And, you know, it's so important to make time and get involved in everything. But, you know, with Republicans turning into, morphing into the ones who are the working party, they just don't have time. And it's hard to represent your politics when

you are working your butt off and trying to support your family yeah when the people that you've entrusted with the power bankrupt you or your surroundings and then yeah and then are like sorry we're just gonna take your kid for you and make sure that it has, like, it's, we'll make sure that you get money from us now. You're on our, on our, on our dime. It's, that's very destructive for a government to do that to its citizens. I can't blame particularly the governors and the representatives and things like that because a lot of it's ignorance, but, oh man. It's just so sad.

You know, schools are supposed to be for kids, and now the schools are places for adults to live out their fantasies of what they want people to believe, and it's gotten really twisted. These teachers

have never grown up themselves. So you see this in the weird, creepy ways that it manifests. They have not matured into adults. They've not experienced hardship. They've not experienced responsibility. They want everything paid for by the government, but they don't realize the government is comprised of the people.

So when all these people are like, the government should provide services. Who was it who told us that? Was that Matt Bender? I wasn't on that show. I think the government should provide services to us. That what the goal of government is and i'm like okay then who is doing it like like the individual who is doing the government and i'm like right by who in the government and he's like what do you mean it's like i don't think they just don't understand

and he said the government will pay for it and i'm like so they'll pay someone to do it yeah and i'm like and where does that money come from yeah what do you mean they just print it and i'm like they just print it line. That's my favorite. Labor is exchanged for labor. Currency is a universal trade medium to make it easier. The resources and energy have to come from somewhere. We do not live in a world of magic infinity that you can just replicate food.

Hey, maybe one day when we have replicators, maybe we'll get past a lot of these problems. How about that? A lot of this has come from taking civics out of class in junior high and high school. The fact that they just don't have it anymore. Yeah, they don't have it. They're not even offering it. That they want the kids to be as uninformed about the governmental process as possible. Just got to bring back home ec.

Yeah. Shop. Yeah, home ec was good. When I realized I could cook in sixth grade, that was such a morale boost. It's great, right? Yeah. It actually tasted good. It was like oatmeal or something. That's great. Yeah? Yeah. It actually tasted good. It was like oatmeal

or something. That's great, yeah. The concept of shop is kind of crazy to me. It's like, all right, kids, here's a table saw. Get going. Well, it's crazy because we did it. And we had shooting club in schools. Yeah, it's fine. Now it's like your scissors have to be made of plastic and you still can't run with them.

That's what school is. It's too much safety culture. Everybody wear your bubble wrap and surround yourself by plastic cubicles so you don't cough on each other. Yeah, this is a result of treating school as if it's only for girls. You need it to be for boys as well. You need to teach boys to make stuff and mess stuff up and fight constructively with each other, like fencing or wrestling. There would be a lot less Adderall prescribed too

if they made school more efficiently for boys. Well, look, man, if you're a company that produces some kind of drug for kids, you're going to be marketing as much as possible that kids need drugs. Right. I wonder. I was just thinking about Pfizer. They make money, man. Like how much money Pfizer made off of the pandemic. So this is my critique of capitalism, that pharmaceutical companies do good things.

They do. They create drugs and treatments that do help. I think by medicine, yeah. And then you actually had, there's a story that, I can't remember what it was, but it was like a pharmaceutical exec who argued, or I think it was a bank, they argued perhaps curing things

is not a viable option for our long-term revenue goals because then people don't buy your product anymore. So you need people to stay on the drug to keep giving you money. You end up with commercials. I love these commercials where it's like, is Floribana right for you? Ask your doctor. And I'm like, I don't even know what the drug does. They never tell you.

Just show me a drug. I better call them and ask them. Maybe I need drugs. But the side effects are vomiting and suicidal thoughts. Maybe death. There's no side effects that include death. There's people running through trees and wilderness, and it's like, what does that have to do with the drugs?

This is free market suicide. When big companies that make, say, a pharmaceutical like Adderall or something to that effect say, we need to sell more of it, how do we do it? Let's lobby for a change in the diagnostic criteria for what children are experiencing to get more kids on our product and then get more prescriptions and more insurance companies to pay for it. Now you've got a whole bunch of kids on a whole bunch of crazy cocktails of SSRIs and uppers and downers and lefters and writers and whatever

else. Yeah, especially after all the school closures and the mask mandates and all the kids missing out on major life events. It's just heartbreaking. It's like I'm looking at a puzzle that's missing like seven. It's got like a thousand pieces and there's like 17 of them are missing. I can see it, but I don't know exactly what it is. I know that the Federal Reserve is in cahoots with the pharmaceutical industry somehow. The government feels beholden to the pharmaceutical industry for money, but that money is Federal Reserve money. So why doesn't the government just say, we're taking control of the finances. We're going to print our own. We're cutting you out. We don't want sick people. You don't profit off of more sick people. We don't want more sick people. You profit when there's less sick people.

And the profit is a healthy society. It's not about the money. You don't need pieces of cotton in your pocket to be healthy. You need food. We need to be able to transport the food. You would have to assume that your government would want what is best for you, and I do not at this point in any way. Yeah, it's too massive. The individuals in government want what's best for themselves. But the real question is do you want what's best for you?

And I've asked that to everybody. That's why I stopped eating sugar. That's a good point. If you really want it, you'll do it. And that's the first step because the government is us. Yeah, they ask you that when you're diagnosed with MS. They're like, who is responsible for making this better

for you? Is it your family members or whatever? And I was like, it's obviously me, but thanks for asking. And they're like, good. You're going to do great. You're going to be successful. You know what I had for dinner? I had tuna salad. It was jarred tuna. Oh my. Yeah, not canned. It was in glass

jars. I don't want any of that metal in my tuna. It was tuna salad on a bed of spinach with cherry tomatoes and avocado because I am eating healthy. Man, that sounds epic. Because I want what's best for me. Any additives? Salt or anything? I think there was salt in it. Allison made it. I think

every time I see Ian cooking, it's lentils. Dude, they're so good. Red lentils too. Red lentils will splooge into a goo. Thank you for that. You mix it with boiled sweet potatoes and carrots. You boil lentils slowly over like 20 minutes.

You get a sauce out of it. Basically confirming what I said. A protein sauce. It's like you walk in the kitchen and have stuff all like, oh, what are you making today? Lentils. Lentils. Yeah. Yeah. A stew.

It's a stew. I'm like toasted lentils. You toast them in oil before you put the water in and start to boil them. It breaks open pores in the lentils, so it's more subservient to the infusion. There's a cooking show in the works. I know, right? Come on. We actually have a really good idea for a set

already for the cooking show. Awesome. Yeah. I was a huge fan of Gordon Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares. Did you guys ever watch? Oh, yes. Idiot sandwich. You can't smell the food. You can't taste the food, but watching it is still awesome. I always loved it when Gordon Ramsay would find some

awful restaurant, but they had really good food and he it was always awesome to see him be excited for the food being good and then lament the bad management it's like he's a chef who's coming in to make your food better but he's like why are you taking orders this way

how come no one's answering the phone and I'm like sounds like a business manager but I mean he runs successful restaurants too it was always great too when like you'd find a small hole in the wall that was perfect in every way and you'd be like

wow I wish more people knew about this place it's amazing one in Louisiana it was like that little old lady yeah that was a good episode

Diners Drive-Ins and Dives he was like this is the best I've ever had I love him remember that show I love Guy Fieri so much which one Diners Drive-Ins and Dives

that show was amazing remember Man vs. Food yes that was insane that was gross I know and like after he would eat all that crazy food Diners drive ins and dives. That's amazing. Remember Man vs. Food? Yes. Yes. That was insane. That was gross. I know. And after he would eat all that crazy food, he would run on a treadmill. Oh, my gosh.

I mean, he had to. But, you know, he probably didn't eat as much as people would assume he would be eating. Like, you think he's eating that way every day. Yeah. I think the craziest one was when he tried eating those ghost pepper wings. And it was, like, not a lot of food, but it's just ghost peppers. It's not even food. Why would you eat it? I don't know what that is.

Ghost pepper? Yeah. It used to be the hottest pepper. Not what Carolina Reaper is. I think so. It might be the hottest pepper on Earth. They probably have hybridized something. He probably actually lost weight off of those then. Your face swells up. He's tearing. You get sick. The Moruga Scorpion, I think is what it's called. Moruga Scorpion.

Why would anybody eat the Moruga?ion. Gosh, a new thing. So I went to a- Why would anybody eat the Moruga? With that name, why would you eat that? I worked at a Buffalo Wild Wings when I was in college, and the frat guys that would come in and order those blazing wings, they're not there to eat. That's like a gross mission. They're there to show off.

No, yeah. They're there to trip balls. No, yes, yes. Nobody eats that hot stuff to enjoy it. I think they do, but I don't know how. Sick. A weird young adult male rite of passage. Yes.

We got a bunch of different spicy peppers. I'm not sure the company that you had ordered them from. Oh, yes. They're amazing. So I decided I'm going to try them all. And it was like hotter, hotter, hotter. And you see like, what is it? The ICUs or whatever.

The temperature scale goes up off the chart. And I'm like, just put a little in my palm and lick it. And I'm like sitting there breathing for five minutes at the counter. But it's real. I went to a hot sauce store. There's one at the Grove in Los Angeles. It's amazing. And I'm like, what's your hottest hot sauce?

And they show me this crazy stuff. And I look at it. They add capsaicin to it. And I'm like, what's your hottest hot sauce? And they show me this crazy stuff and I look at it, they add capsaicin to it. And I'm like, no, no, no, no. I want like a real hot sauce that's naturally spicy and then it's like

Carolina Reaper stuff. But you can actually buy artificially enhanced hot sauce. And so I bought a vial of it and then it's Scoville rating, I think it's called. Yes. And I brought it to my friend's house

and it was this little vial. And he was like, I'll try it. But before I do, he dabbed it on his skin, and he's like, let's just see what happens. His skin blistered. And then he was like, okay, I'm not eating that. Isn't capsaicin the stuff they put in pepper spray? Yeah. Oveal resin capsaicin.

What is that? You only get one time. Yeah, don't ruin it. No. You can buy pure capsaicin, too. It helps with pain. Oh, really? Yeah, very interesting. Because it,. You can buy pure capsaicin too. It helps with pain. Oh, really? Yeah, very interesting.

Because it like nukes your nerves? I don't know why it works, but it's fascinating that it does. It melts your nerves off so you can't feel. I know, you can't feel anything anymore. Perfect. I feel like I just ate something spicy having this conversation. I want to eat something spicy now that I've had this conversation. Yeah, when you can get your body to a point where it's not spicy anymore, I think you

can build out of it. I don't know if it's sugar or something that makes it more spicy, makes it almost incomprehensible. Yeah. SHU's, Scoville Heat Unit. There it is. I don't know how we got to hot sauce, but bring it in. All right, everybody. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel,

and share the show anywhere you can. Take the URL posted all around, and head over to timcast.com to become a member. Really got to check out our Monday members-only show, the After Hours show with Dave Landau, because we were just laughing ridiculously. It was very, very funny. Dave's brilliant. We had Dave and Jamie Kilton. They're both so funny. It was just hilariously

hilarious. And we're going to have a members only After Hours show coming up tonight, 11 p.m. You'll see it on the front page. It appears right there on the front page in the top left. But for now, we will read your super chats. Nick Koenig says, rest in peace for their mother. I know how bad it is to

lose a parent. My father died right before COVID and I feel for them. Nothing but love for them. Right on, man. Gadsden says, Tim, this is killing me. Have you unpaused your fan mail yet? I need to send you my National Divorce book. Also, the book is on Amazon and Audible now, too. Just look up National Divorce.

It's the only book on the subject. For security reasons, we have to rethink how we do mail. And until then, I don't know. So I'm sorry, you know, we don't have it. Ivan Ooze says, please have Alex Stein come on the show. Tucker Carlson is his biological dad. Interesting request. Stay tuned tomorrow.

It's going to be funny when he cancels on us now. All right. Waffle Sensei says, If everyone accepted the risk of standing up and speaking out, then there would be no risk for standing up and speaking out. And then three gorilla emojis. Yeah, I think so. Thank you, Waffle Sensei.

He's often on Pop Culture Crisis interacting with us. us right on making money fly up in the air that's right yes he does he's great all right let's see what we got here not that guy says woke is destroying our culture wizards is leading the way it is the dragon's horde trading company does not uh does not bow to SJW pressure. Luxury gaming accessories handmade by straight white disabled male veteran on the farm.

Ah. I know Wizards of the Coast. The Dragon's Horde Trading Company? Looking it up. I know Wizards of the Coast and a lot of like the magic world

has gone like tabletop gaming is like you think everything else is woke. There's nothing woker than tabletop gaming. And this is the problem is

it's woke capitalism. So here's what happens. Somebody makes a game where it's wizards fighting each other. It's a strategy game and it's like, I'm a wizard and you're a wizard and I'm going to cast lightning bolt. It's like, oh, I counter spell. And people have fun doing it. And then the company gets investors. Big gaming companies come in and say, we want to buy this.

This is brilliant. One day they're looking at their numbers and they're like, the Q3 numbers are in. We have a tremendous amount of sales among men, 18 to 34. But how do we get women? They're always looking for the phantom demographic that doesn't care about their game. Exactly. It's always about the damn phantom demographic. So how can we change the game to attract more females?

Have you considered making the characters frumpy and ugly? That's a good idea. Give them dad bods. This is what they did. The dads all stay good looking. The women become, they make the women frumpy. But this is what I don't understand, right? When you have like a Magic the Gathering card and there's like a guy, a character,

it's like he's all ripped, a Gideon or whatever. He's like ripped. And then you look at the women and the women are like beautiful and then and then wizard is like this is not representative of people so we're gonna make the wind all frumpy now and i'm like okay listen hold on men are attracted to beautiful women women are attracted to beautiful men and women who like women also like beautiful women and men who like men also like beautiful men therefore just make beautiful people on your cards. Why wouldn't you do that? It's like, imagine, if people are attracted to people who are attractive,

why try to sell them something that's not attractive? It just makes no sense. You just kind of, you know, this sounds really mean, but I think the same logic really applies to kind of plus-size models being integrated in all of the online stores and stuff now. Well, that I get because women are getting fatter and fatter. And so they're trying to say like, hey, look at this lady wearing clothes that you could fit in. Yes, but I think the issue with that is a woman doesn't want to see an outfit on her. They want to see it on a pretty person so they can imagine it looks like that on them.

That's going to make me look like that. What's that fat chick store, Morbid? Oh, my gosh. Torrid. Okay. We were literally talking about it today because we were talking about the Victoria's Secret documentary that came out. Yeah, and their sales tank. We talked about this.

Torrid. documentary that's coming that came out and their sales tank we talked about this the whole thing today because it's like the idea is that like men uh like uh superhero men right superman has got a 12 pack not even a six pack and the idea is that men find that aspirational like i'm never going to look like that but by god if i'm not going to go to the gym and try um and that women but then when when they would do that to the female characters then it's unrealistic beauty standards it's like it's characters, then it's unrealistic beauty standards. It's literally a superhero. It's not supposed to be realistic, but the idea is then they've put that into the fashion world.

You know what I'm saying? No, I wrote an article about this for The Federalist a few years ago, and it's funny. I actually talked about my first experience going into Victoria's Secret when I was 16 or whatever with my girlfriends from high school. And it felt like going to like the cool girls like closet. It's like a club. It was. It was like, oh my gosh, this is so cool. This is so sexy. This is so sophisticated. You know, it just it felt like I was entering a new just place I've never been. And, and, you know, the thing about those Victoria's Secret angels, which got canceled because they made people feel bad for being so gorgeous, Adriana Lima, when you wear Victoria's Secret clothes, you want to put it on.

You want to imagine yourself as an angel. You don't want to – I just feel like they really screwed up by – I'm just going to call it morbid from now on. I like that. That's funny. Now you get to look like Megan Rapinoe. screwed up. I'm just going to call it morbid from now on. I like that. That's funny. Now you get to look like Megan Rapinoe. That's what I'm saying. And I'm sorry, but not even a woman who knows maybe she's not Adriana Lima wants to put on lingerie and look like Megan Rapinoe.

It's just a bad marketing. I'm going to open a big and tall shop called Morbid. Yeah, for men. I love it so much. So we have an idea for a show we've talked about it before right the mall store show no

we have I think so mall store anyway on or off I'm not sure on or off air but we've talked about it off air on air I think we didn't mention it mall store so it's a show that we're putting together

where we just we get a store and then we have we just change what the store is as gag stores all the time just to like to see the reactions of people who are coming in like confused that's really funny so we'll do morbid yeah it'll be called morbid we'll stylize it and we'll put like big fat mannequins morbid yeah i went then what we'll do is we'll have the uh we'll have a big and tall section

the morbid section and the moribund section beautiful i i feel like you can't really satirize reality because i went to the perfume store the other day and I saw this huge fat model and this bright sunny looking perfume and I was like, I don't want to smell like that model smells. That's what I'm saying. I really don't. That sounds so mean because I understand that we are supposed to be

body positive, but there's just a fine line between being body positive and then having Lizzo on the cover of, what was it, Shape? Or something? I called someone moribundly obese and then someone tried correcting me. They're like, oh, you mean morbidly obese?

I was like, no. They're about to die. There's a difference. The state of dying. Currently in the state. When you're that large, like your risk of heart disease is much higher than other people's and it's just a health fact

and we should stop pretending. Hey, look, I lost 30 pounds. I was a big boy and it was funny because somebody was like, Tim, we know you were fat because after we watch your clips, we have an outro segment

promoting the show and it's like from a few months ago, so I'm like bigger. So my thing is like, you can cut up the sugar. You can get better. You can be healthy. You can go for a walk.

Let's read some more Super Chats. All right. Well, how do you – Athanasios Athanasin says, Love you guys. Need help. Ten-year police officer killed by drunk driver while volunteering for fellow officer, leaving behind a loving wife and five kids. Firefighter brother had to watch him die.

Give, send, go, supporting the Richardson family. Also possible to buy snack board. Snack board. Not yet, but soon. Soon, soon. Yeah, we're actually looking at a venue. We're looking to purchase a building which will function as a game shop, skate shop,

and venue for events. And that will be out in eastern West Virginia. What's the name of that GoFundMe again? Richardson Family. It was Give, Send, Go. I do think crowdfunding may be the future of a way we get out of this

mess. Yeah, they can shut you down on crowdfunding, though, if the platform doesn't like you. Yeah, we need a decentralized untrackable crowdfunding mechanism. Oh, good. I was going to read more. Nathan Trimmington says, Tim, when is the rap song dropping? I don't know.

At some point, I suppose. Raymond Magajee says, dude, Tim, how long did that take to ace that? So people need to understand, I talk faster than I actually talk, and I have to try to talk slower. All right, Ben Shapiro. I want to hear it on 0.5 speed and see if it sounds like you but warped. It's going to be weird. When I record my segments, sometimes there will be some important thing I have to do and I'm like, I got to get this done quick.

But I don't realize that a segment is 30 minutes long regardless of how fast I'm talking. So I'll end up cramming in an hour's worth of content because I'll just be reading the news and just going really fast. And then I look at the timer and I'm like, talking fast isn't making this any different. I should chill out and like make this listenable. That's been a very big part for me is trying to learn how to slow down because I'm a naturally fast talker as well. Like when we're doing the segments and I'm moving the conversation along, I get that natural urge to pick up and move along because I don't like the idea of dead air.

I have to slow it down. Forlorn Vox says, LMAO at Tim speaking at 10 times playback speed. You read that article like it was a side effect to a shady big pharma prescription medication. There you go. Stunning. It was like the Micro Machines guy. Do you guys

remember those commercials? Micro Machines, faster than the real thing. Remember that guy, that famous guy who could talk super fast? That was the guy, yeah. That's the guy. He did the Micro Machines commercials. Yeah, I could talk very fast. Twista came to my mind.

Twista and Busta Rhymes. And there was a really funny thing that says, Busta Rhymes is the fastest rapper in the world. And then it cuts and it says, the guy from the pharmaceutical commercials. Yeah. It's entered the chat. The law disclaimer guy. For reference, it was John Machida Jr. is the guy, the motor mouth John, the guy who's fast talking. Anwar Abu Baker says, please look into AB5 bill in California.

There will be a huge disruption in the supply chain this week, possibly. They are trying to turn independent contractors into employees to extract tax dollars from truck drivers. God bless your work, Tim. Didn't that already pass a long time ago? I don't know. Do you want to Google it? One of the videos that you did early on when I realized how much my friends hated politics that weren't their own was pointing that out to somebody, and I got gaslit super hard. And I'm like, I pointed out that bill, and he goes, well, I don't doubt that you read something like that.

I'm like, oh, come on, dude. And then Vox fired all of their California contractors. So funny. All of them were axed. And they're like, we can't hire you anymore. We don't do business in California either. Yeah. Not just for that reason, for a variety of reasons.

Do not do business in California. The Daily Wire used to be in California. They moved. They're in Nashville now. Sure enough. Let me just say, do not do business in California. If you, the Daily Wire used to be in California. They moved. They're in Nashville now. Sure enough. Let me just say, do not do business in California.

If you live there, I guess. But if you're, if you're any kind of company that in any way has to do anything in other states, so because we're digital media,

we can take, we can take articles and contract people who might be in California. We won't do it. California is, does not exist as far as our company is concerned. Do not do business there. You'll regret it.

You will absolutely regret it. An employee can walk into your office, take a dump on your desk, pick it up and throw it at someone, and you will get sued for it. It's insane. Obviously, I'm exaggerating, but it's almost that bad. Maybe it actually is. I don't know. It's just it's brutal you can you can have a talk with like the labor board and i've worked in california and i've i've been on the other other side of that they'll they'll tell you

whatever you like if you're the employee and you're like i have a problem they'll go we don't care we're going to give you whatever you want and we're going to strip it from the business it's crazy wow all right brett willett says may bless you, Ian. We pray for you always. May your heart and eyes be opened to the gospel of Jesus Christ. Dude, last night, Brett, I was thinking, I was like laying in bed till like five in the morning thinking about God. I'm like, okay, this is real. Because a lot of times I feel despair.

But last night I was thinking maybe the solution to this is bringing people together with God. And it feels real. It's like, I think it's real. You study Nassim Harriman's Schwarzschild proton and you've got these black holes in you. The protons really, it's scientific. It really seems like there's something going on man I think God is real

yeah alright the backlash says Ronald Reagan gave fireside chats from the White House Trump doing that would be phenomenal

that'd be fun it would be the funniest most fun thing ever ladies and gentlemen this is former president Donald Trump from Mar-a-Lago, the Winter White House. If you did like meme report from the

White House. That'd be so good. If Trump does meme review? Yeah. Meme review from the White House. That would be the coolest thing ever. So fun. So we have to get Trump for the show somehow. We've talked with a bunch of people in the circles and like maybe we'll go to New Jersey. But if we do, I will

ask Trump to review like three memes. Yes. And it'll be a short thing probably like five ten minutes but that would be the coolest thing ever that'd be so funny for the kids we need you to review these memes get that demographic trump it would just be funny like apolitical memes just you know funny stuff yeah i watching him the npc one he'll be like what's an npc i don't get it that'd be great uh dalamar says trump has a channel 2.6 million subs been there for years streams the rallies oh okay yeah but we need like trump to be sitting watching tv and then we get to watch his reaction to fox news think about how amazing that show would be if he held like watch parties on amazon prime where he

just watches like the west wing like no no like, like him watching Tucker Carlson and Tucker says something and then he starts commenting on it and just going off would be the coolest thing ever. If Trump did what I did, like grab news articles and then turn the cameras, start talking about it, he'd have 50 million viewers in a week. He would be getting 5, 10 million views per clip. It would be just amazing all right the pyromaniac says trump and desantis need to team up have trump charging like a bull like in 2016 let desantis wrangle with congress and train him up on the appropriate foreign policy decisions and prime him for a run in 2028 with a trump endorsement i mean i'm down you know i think desantis is good for a lot of reasons.

I think there's reasons to think Trump would be good. It's tough. We've got to see this primary. We'll see what they say. I don't know. I think that if Republicans really want to win, I think that they've got to ditch the Trump stuff. I think they need to embrace a new face.

I think DeSantis is tough on stuff like Trump is, and that's why Trump was so attractive. It's very similar issues. But why do Trumpers want, why would Republicans want another news cycle of just media versus Trump and Trumpism? I just feel like it's time to move on. Come on. Yeah, you got to define what it means to win because you get Trump into office and it definitely not be a win for anybody. Well, it won't be a win for anybody. And it's just going to be more of the same thing. And it's just time for progress.

See, I think I don't want Trump back in office. And then he makes the tweet about Elon Musk or the post about Elon Musk. And I want him back. I'm sorry. Well, I think that if he does his own show, like what Tim was suggesting that we all win. Just make his own like fake presidency. Give him the we all win. Just make his own fake presidency. Give him the Oval Office. Yes, it'd be amazing.

To tape a show once in a while. Yes. Jedi Mind Trick 75 says, I'm always the I like Ian butt guy in the comment section, but Ian is steady rolling 20s tonight. He is killing my gimmick. Nothing but love, Ian. Enjoying Pop Culture Crisis 2, Brett. Thank you.

Love you, homie. Who was that? Jedi Mind Trick. Jedi Mind, Brett. Thank you. Love you, homie. Who was that? Jedi Mind Trick. Jedi Mind Trick. I feel you. Bub Savvy says, hey, Tim, you should have Sam Hyde on before his Hasan Piker fight next year. Next year?

When's they're fighting? I don't know. That's awesome. Yeah, Sam Hyde's a boxing coach. Did you see he coached- He's going to fight Hasan? Oh, I wouldn't doubt it. I haven't heard.

This is the first I've heard of it, though. I have no idea. But yeah, we should have Sam Hyde on? Oh, I wouldn't doubt it. I haven't heard. This is the first I've heard of it, though. I have no idea. But yeah, we should have Sam Hyde on. Yes. I like Sam a lot. I know him. Maybe. Ball's in there for him.

That will happen. Yeah. Mm-hmm. All right. Joe Miles says the millennials working in the White House think they are living in the TV show West Wing. Kamala's speech writers are probably failed script writers trying to create a quotable one-liner. I don't think so. She'd be saying, like, you know yes no i actually that was the first thing i thought

it was that it sounds like they're trying to write an endearing speech that's really easy to digest and they're just bad at it but it's her delivery is too off to actually buy that no i think word salad i think what they're doing is camel is like i need a speech doing is, Kamala's like, I need a speech for tonight. And she texts them, like, I need a speech. And they go, okay. And they keep hitting the middle button of the predictive text.

And they just let it go. And they're like, that's good. Send. And then she goes, oh. Copy and paste that sentence. Multiple times. Let an AI write her speeches. That's what they're doing.

I honestly think nobody's writing anything. She's just sitting there and she has nothing to say. And she's like, well, they're like, what do you think we should do about the border? Well, the border is an issue that a lot of people have thought about when it comes to the issues. Okay. Countries have borders. We are a country. A border.

That borders another country, which means We are a country. A border. That borders another country. Which means they're at a border. And there are people. She's got a group. She's got like a writing team sitting around a table doing this. They're all throwing ideas in. Yeah, border. Say that again.

Say it again. Michael Schrobel. How many people right now know their neighbors? Most have already been split from them through the way out culture functions. Do you know your neighbors? I do. Neighbors. My neighbors.

You say, howdy, neighbor. I wave to them when I take my kid to daycare, when I come home. Sometimes we wave at each other over the fences. But, you know, I just moved to my neighborhood kind of recently, and COVID covet has made it hard to connect with people do you think you'll have to fight them i you know what malcolm nance said we gotta go come on outside they would lose they would lose i fight dirty strong yeah that's right all right patrick reichert says total non-sequitur but ian curious when you saw Foo Fighters. I have seen them 10 times, and they're my favorite band.

Taylor Hawkins' loss has really affected me. Yeah, that was brutal. I think it was 2003 about. It was an incredible show, too. That was the closest I ever got to really just screaming and throwing my arms in the air. That's crazy. They were getting ready for a tour or something, right? They were on tour.

They were on tour. They were in South America, and Taylor, they found him in a hotel, man. It's just. They were getting ready for like a tour or something, right? They were on tour. They were in South America and Taylor found him in a hotel, man. It's just how did he die? It was like cardiac arrest or something? I don't know. I don't remember if anything came out about that. I know that there was like a bunch of drugs in the hotel room but they said that he never used before

shows so it didn't fall in line. The problem with heroin use a lot in hard, really heavy drugs is that if someone does it in the same environment over and over their body, when you walk into that room, the body gets ready for it. It puts the things ready to counter the heroin. So then when you go to a new environment, you

use that same amount, your body's not ready for it, and it can shock the system. I mean, beyond the fact that it could just have been tainted, or there could be any number of things that is wrong with it that cause those problems. One of the best. I actually a like a light-hearted story about foo fighters so dave grohl i think is from maryland right he's virginia okay so so they were i was with my husband when we were still dating a few years ago we're on u street we're walking around and there was a

part of u street that was you know construction. So it was like one of those, what are they called? Scaffolding? Yeah. And it's just us walking one way and then a group of men in black and stuff are coming at us and I kind of look at them, but I'm trying not to be a weird starer. And I realize, oh my God, that's the freaking Foo Fighters.

And I say, oh my God god that was the foo fighters and dave grohl because at this point we had passed each other mocks me he goes oh my god that's the and i was like just mocked me we got to the bar where we were headed i was like you guys dave grohl just mocked everyone's like you're lying we looked it up sure enough they're on tour and it was them and yeah i have been an even bigger fan of them since because i was so fine yeah let's mock my rules i used to live near the metro in chicago yeah are you familiar with the venue at all anybody no so it's like a thousand seater and uh it's like a really popular spot so i'm it's right next to wrigley field as well so i'm a few

blocks down i can't remember the name of the street it was off clark and me and my friend were busking, playing music on the street when everyone's out at the bars getting ready for the show. I'm a big fan, or I used to be a really big fan of Death Cab for Cutie. I don't relate to a lot of their stuff these days. So I knew all their songs.

And so I'm playing a ton of their songs. And then I look to my friend and I'm like, let's just play an original that I wrote. We start playing, and then as I'm playing, Ben Gibbard, the lead singer, and a couple other guys walk past and they look and they like, you know, like nod and keep walking. And then I'm like sitting there. I'm like, I look like Ben Gibbard. And then I look at my friend.

She's like, yeah, aren't they playing at the Metro tonight? Which is like two blocks away. And I was like, no way. I thought it was funny. The one time I stopped playing covers of his band was when he actually walked past me. And then I was just like, wow, that was crazy. Actually, I got to meet them once. It was really cool.

I got to meet Chris Wallow. He was a really cool dude. Talked to him about music. Cool guys. Really cool stuff. That's awesome. Love their music. All right.

What do we got more? What more do we got? What do we got more? Waffle Sensei says, if you are not fighting for hearts and minds and souls and you're only fighting to win, then all you want is power and you deserve none of it. Oh. Yeah.

The betterment of your enemies. I guess the idea is to make everything better. A rising tide lifts all ships. Correct. All right. CJ McLean says, I usually listen to the show the day after and download it to my phone with YouTube Premium.

For some reason, I can't download the episode from 7-12. This isn't the first time this has happened. Not sure if you guys or YouTube is censoring. What was on the 12th? Adrian and Libby. Really? Yeah.

Sometimes things just happen and it's not necessarily something we're leveling. There's a thing about that with YouTube. So we can always download our own episodes after we stream, but like one in 10 or like one in 20, you can't. Yeah, it's just a problem. Yeah. And there were issues.

So here's, this is really funny. We have had issues where like we manually record the show and then afterwards we use that recording for all the clips because the live streamed version has artifacting or down res or something like that. But there have been instances where I've screwed up or we ran a hard drive space where things crashed. And we should probably check that actually. And then we're like, we'll just download it from YouTube and we can't. So we have to screen capture our own show.

We have to like load it, let it run for two hours and just record so that we can make clips again because you can't download it. And the way live streams work, these third party downloading things don't work either. They may have fixed it. hours and just record so that we can make clips again because you can't download it and and the way live streams work these third-party downloading things don't work either they may have fixed it maybe it's changed but we've had those it is brutal that's frustrating yeah all right let's see what we got in the old super chat lineup james riley says politics is not a litmus test for good and evil we should be free to disagree with that reprisal otherwise the fringes on both sides win yes but the fringes on the right will actually talk to you they'll they'll they demand to be debated and then you and then but i mean like conservatives um you know want to have the conversation even far right as extreme as they

get want to have the conversation and prove to you why they've come to their conclusions. The left is a cult and they're like, nope, don't want to hear it. Get out. Don't care.

The epitome of cancel culture. Yep. Silence. That's where it comes from. All right, let's grab some more super chats. Dead Eye says, Tim and gang,

look into super tasters and non tasters when it comes to eating spicy foods. Someone told me that I was a super taster and I don't know when it comes to eating spicy foods uh someone told me that i was a super taster and i don't know if that's true but i said i didn't like cilantro and they said does it taste like soap and i said no and they said then why don't you like it i said it overpowers everything and they're like oh so you probably don't like alcohol either and i was like right and they're like okay you're probably a super taster oh that's interesting and i was like

uh i guess i could never understand how people sip whiskey. No, me neither. Yeah. That's interesting. So I'm like, I don't know if that makes you a supertaster because you don't like to drink that stuff. That's crazy because ever since I had COVID, I can taste alcohol really strongly.

Wow. And cilantro kind of similarly. So I wonder if it's kind of changed my taste buds like that. Weird. The real question is, why do people know what soap tastes like? Yeah, that's a great question. Because they swore as a kid. That's right.

They got their mouths washed out of soap. Do you ever have soap in your mouth? One time. And then my mom cried. She felt so bad. But I was like just being a 13-year-old bitch. And I was dropping off bombs, and she was not having it. And I sat on the toilet like that scene in a Christmas.

Was it called A Christmas Story? A Christmas Story. Yes. And it was disgusting and horrible. And I know exactly the toilet like that scene in a Christmas – what's it called? A Christmas story? A Christmas story. Yes. And it was disgusting and horrible. And I know exactly what soap tastes like. It's like they say cilantro tastes the way soap smells. You know what I mean? Oh, okay.

Like you'll smell something and then taste it and go, oh. The funny thing is, you know the worst thing? You ever go to a mall and they have Auntie Anne's and it's the best smell in the world? So you buy one and you're like, this is not that good. Gross. It's like I am very disappointed in how this tastes versus how it smells. It smells better than the taste. What's buy one and you're like, this is not that good. It's like, I am very disappointed in how this tastes versus how it smells.

Smells better than it tastes. What's up with that? I don't know. I mean, to be fair, I've got like candles that are like strawberry cheesecake that smell so good but you don't want to eat that.

It would not taste good. It's a bummer though. All right. Sign of Luck says, what are your thoughts about a populist purple DeSantis or Trump Tulsi gabbard ticket i'm down for it like i really don't see a trump gabbard thing happening what about desantis

gabbard that would be um i'm sold i'm sold right away they left would have to run newsome though for that to be as maximum entertaining as possible des DeSantis-Gabbard ticket. Tulsi solves the foreign policy questions when it comes to DeSantis. And I'm just like, count me in. I think, you know, I met Tulsi recently when we were in New York. It was great. I'm a big fan.

She's shown herself to be one of the few principled politicians I've ever seen. There's a handful of Republicans we've had on the show that I think are cool. But that would be awesome. And I think it would be unifying too. It would, it would shut down the left. People on the right would be like, we get it.

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