Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #573 - Alex Stein Discusses Calling AOC A Big Booty Latina, AOC Implying 1/6 Was Inside Job

Episode Date: July 16, 2022

Tim, Ian, Mary of Pop Culture Crisis, and Lydia host reporter and comedian Alex Stein to discuss his recent viral encounter with Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, her lies about January 6th, the innocent peop...le being held in jail for their participation in the event, Norm Macdonald's iconic appearance on 'The View' in the 1990's, and whether the moon landing really happened. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So it's, we're chilling. It's a Friday night. There's a bunch of news, but the big story that just seems to dominate the news headline is that some blowhard guy yells at Ocasio-Cortez, who we love, by the way, that she's a big booty Latina. And this dominates the news cycle. And it's all anybody's going to talk about. And surprisingly, the story actually has still dominated the news cycle today because AOC, she made a video where I guess she called her booty juicy or something. She sure did. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:00:28 It's just – Cringy. This is – yeah. Because no one said that and it's like Freudian slip. What are you talking about? But here's the thing that I didn't realize. I didn't realize that it was in response to that that she called January 6th essentially an inside job. So this is intriguing. And we're going to be
Starting point is 00:00:46 talking with Alex Stein, the man himself who said that AOC was a big booty Latina to talk about that. But also I've mentioned that Alex, you do a bunch of culture jamming stuff, which is actually particularly effective in terms of culture jamming, getting a message
Starting point is 00:01:02 out, making points and things like that. So it's a Friday night. We're going to be chilling. We're just going to talk about all that stuff. Before we get started, head over to TimCast.com, become a member. We've got a really awesome lineup from this week. I just got to recommend, if you click the members only section at TimCast.com, the Dave Landau member podcast was just so insanely funny. I keep shouting out, that man is a genius.
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Starting point is 00:01:56 the king of culture jamming. It's an honor and a pleasure to be here, Tim. I'm a big fan. And let's just say this, though. I have to get a little mad at you because I saw a 22-minute video where got a little mad at me which is fair you know i kind of that's kind of part of it i do want to evoke some sort of emotional response and i did have tim you know a little emotionally triggered which i like but now you're realizing it's what i did by calling aoc a big booty latina that she had to come out after three hours in the Capitol voting on bills.
Starting point is 00:02:26 The first thing she did when she came out, of course, she had to say the Capitol Police didn't do their job, and it was an inside job, and they let people in. Introduce yourself for those who aren't familiar with you and your work. Okay, guys. Like I said, I'm Alex Stein. I'm a Blaze TV contributor. I got a show coming out in September. And basically what I do is I like to highlight the most absurd parts of our culture and jam
Starting point is 00:02:46 in people's faces because we live in a society of political correctness where it's almost impossible to wake people up because I say this term a lot. It's called trauma-based mind control. Everybody's under basically mass formation hypnosis. So the only way, in my opinion, to actually wake people up is to show them how absurd the narrative is. It's like, I think a perfect example is Leah Thomas. You just pulled it up that Leah Thomas is nominated for NCAA Woman of the Year.
Starting point is 00:03:08 But the fact is Leah was a man at one point and swam on the men's team for three years, ranked 427th, then is able to take gender hormone therapy and swim against the women and win multiple NCAA championships. So for me, I think that is very absurd, and I think I feel most bad. I don't know if that's the proper English grammar, but I feel the worst for the 17 other swimmers that had to compete against Leah, who still has male genitalia, even though she's a woman, and still, I believe, likes women. There's a lot that I want to talk about there, too, because I had a tweet about, are UFC
Starting point is 00:03:43 fighters allowed to take drugs to reduce their weight so they can get into lower weight brackets, which gives them an advantage. Yeah. We'll get into all that stuff. So thanks for joining, Alex. It's going to be a blast. Thank you. We got Mary Morgan as well. I'm back once again.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Hello. My name is Mary. I co-host Pop Culture Crisis on YouTube. We do a live show where we cover celebrities, movies, all the entertainment news and lighthearted content that you might not hear about on IRL. And when you super chat us, you get to shoot money at us. It's fun. Great. It's true.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Ian Crossland here, iancrossland.net. I was actually on Pop Culture Crisis today. It was hot. Well, we were joined by someone who looks very much like you. Which was me. You're right. You're right. You're wrong. And also, if you haven't seen the Cast
Starting point is 00:04:29 Castle vlog, today's the day. If you want to go back and see who I really am, if you don't believe me, check it out. It's hot. Let's pass it on to Lydia. Sounds awesome. I'm very excited to be joining Alex Stein this prime time on a Friday night. We're going to take it super easy, talk about some fun stuff. And here Alex has been up to. I'm stoked.
Starting point is 00:04:46 So, people have started posting ghost emojis in the chat. Oh, that's for Mary. I guess I should have gotten the NAD earlier, huh? I think it might be also the lurking in the attic thing. It was one time! Alright, let's
Starting point is 00:05:02 talk about this first story. Y'all have probably seen it. AOC calls out Capitol Police after troll calls her big booty Latina on the hill steps. So that was it. That was you who called her your favorite big booty Latina. And you were very happy and smiling and saying you loved her and all that stuff. She got mad. And so I'll just clarify right away.
Starting point is 00:05:22 I knew that AOC made the statement about Capitol Police and the insurrection being implying it was an inside job, that there were police inside opening the doors. I just didn't realize that she was making a point about you specifically. And so I will walk back my statement. What I said earlier today was that, for one, I think your culture jamming is fantastic. We've talked about how we want to do culture jamming more as a marketing tool and also to affect change, and that you've done a particularly good job of that. I don't think that calling AOC a big booty Latina solved or did anything.
Starting point is 00:05:52 I was wrong. It actually got her to come out and issue a prominent statement that January 6th was that police officers in the building opened the door. That would not have happened were it not for something, to me, seemed completely inane. And here we are. I'm flabbergasted. And you should be something to me seemed completely inane and here we are i'm uh i'm flabbergasted and you should be and it is completely inane and let me tell you
Starting point is 00:06:09 something i am mentally insane like i said i call myself primetime because i am insane and this is the thing though tim uh even though i am an imbecile and an idiot i want to say that i actually plan this i i talked about this earlier aoc constantly says that she's a victim of sexualization she says the people on the right do not like her because they want to date her there was a picture of her boyfriend now fiance in miami with his feet and everybody said oh look at her gross feet and she you know of course she what my point being is for her it's all about like image and looks and that's why people don't like her so my thought was if i run into elan omer i'm going to say i think you married your brother is that what happened you know i had i had stuff you know for each congresswoman of the squad but for aoc i said instead of like i
Starting point is 00:06:49 called out adam kinzinger and i called him you know a traitor and a d-bag but my point being is when you call people out and you're kind of like aggressive that doesn't work that's not culture jamming that's like being rude so in my mind i said you know what i'm going to give aoc what she wants i'm going to bait her and i'm going to sexualize her and actually you know I called this on Sarah Gonzalez's show on the blaze before I said I'm going to call her big booty Latina but I did it on I did it on purpose so the reason why I thought I would go to city council meetings at the very beginning uh you know of the COVID pandemic and I would talk seriously you know and they wouldn't pay attention they would look at me like I was an idiot like a conspiracy you know theorist which
Starting point is 00:07:24 I am a tinfoil hat wearing. But my point being is you couldn't evoke a response. And then one of the first meetings is we have Mayor Johnson. He's a nice guy. And I said, you know, they're pushing the vaccine real hard. I said, you should offer free vaccines in the gay neighborhood. You should call it Eric Johnson's Free Johnson & Johnson because the gay community will love the double entendre. And since you're the first openly gay mayor of Dallas, they'll really love it.
Starting point is 00:07:44 He's not. He's married with kids. And he was shook know he was just his face like a pumpkin he was just like you know what and that's when i kind of realized all right i have to troll these people and my comedic hero is andy kaufman and what he did brilliantly is he blended the line of reality and fiction so you couldn't tell so my point being you know i was long-winded with aoc i said i'm going to try to get an emotional response just long-winded with aoc i said i'm going to try to get an emotional response by hitting on her but i want her to think i'm serious i want her to think i actually like her and then in her tweet when i said you're a big booty latina she actually ended up coming back and trying to take some sort of selfie with me so she liked the
Starting point is 00:08:18 compliments i did in front of her fiancee who i totally said let's get a selfie or something like that yes that's exactly what she said she like gave a gave a peace sign. And she did. But yet, the narrative after was that she wanted to deck me, which is obviously provably false. She tweeted about it and deleted it. What was the first thing she tweeted? Well, she came out, her staffer came out after it happened because they're like, who is this guy?
Starting point is 00:08:38 And they came and took this picture right in front of my face. I said, I'm Alex Stein. I'm on the blaze. Here's my business card. I'm not trying to hide. And then, of course, they didn't like that. And then when they figured out who I was, that I'm this right-wing troll, and I'll call myself a troll. I'm a goblin. Whatever adjective you want to call me, I agree with it. My point being is when I came out and I admitted who I was, that's when she was triggered. She just couldn't stand it that some right-wing guy got her, and she didn't want to get got
Starting point is 00:09:05 so of course her ego was just totally shattered so she had to create this new narrative that i said juicy or that i said ass which i never said the video proves that and my point being in all of this is i laid out a trap and i'm not like i said i'm an idiot but i knew i was going to evoke emotional response to him but i had no idea that it would be this big of a response that that she would make so many Instagram videos, that she'd make a post asking people questions about it. She has to. So I stand corrected. My thought was like you did this thing and what was the point? I understand your point now.
Starting point is 00:09:37 And in fact, it triggered AOC to call out the police in the Capitol and directly implicate the 1-6 committee investigation, literally saying, they're not investigating this. I don't feel safe. And wow, you put those pieces together and it's, you know, I don't think you expected her to indict the 1-6 committee in response to you trolling her on, like, you know, she's notorious
Starting point is 00:09:59 for saying people want to date her and things like that. And that's why I said that, though. Right, I stand corrected. I, I, I... Right. I stand corrected. And so the reason that we're seeing her response is because she has to bury her emotional reaction. She's probably getting a ton of heat from Democrats over what she said about the police on January 6th. And so she's leaning as heavily into the I was harassed thing as possible to dominate news coverage, to shut down the 1-6 conversation. And she's right.
Starting point is 00:10:22 I mean, I did cross the line a little bit. Of course, I hit on her. But at the same time, I was very nice. You know what I mean? I mean, I don't care what you say. Yeah, I'm laughing. I'm nice. I'm saying you're a big booty Latina.
Starting point is 00:10:32 I think you're sexy. Even though you want to abort and kill babies, I still love you. And that was my whole point is I try to actually be nice because the people on the left, Marjorie Taylor Greene, a friend of mine, she's great. She says on the Capitol step, she'll get harassed. They call her the B word, the C word, all this mean stuff. That doesn't have the same effect. Like if you start doing that, a politician is going to put their head down and go about their business.
Starting point is 00:10:51 But as soon as you try to get them in a trap, you're either nice to them by being – trolling them. That's how we win the culture war is by evoking a response. Oh, yeah. So we've been – I thought Mary was going to say something. I thought you said that you'd look at something. Yeah. Well, I want to know what culture jamming means okay so culture jamming is where you take the most absurd parts of our culture and you jam it in people's face to bring awareness because even people that agree with the mainstream narrative they don't even know what the mainstream narrative is like one video oh go ahead oh well let me just say this so like one thing beto o'rourke's running
Starting point is 00:11:21 for governor of texas and so one of my buddies cassidy campbell is a big youtube channel we you know i make all kinds of content but we do a thing where we'll go like fake door knocking or really door knocking and we'll talk about beto o'rourke's like real thing how he wants to give you know gender reassignment surgery to seven-year-old kids and even people that are like you know as leftist as it gets they're kind of like i don't know if a seven-year-old should be on that you know so what are you a transphobic oh no i'm actually trans i'm gender fluid i'm alexandria half the time you'll see you can pull it up me alex and I'm like, I don't know if a seven-year-old should be on that. What are you, transphobic? No, I'm actually trans. I'm gender fluid.
Starting point is 00:11:46 I'm Alexandria half the time. You'll see. You can pull it up. Me, Alexandria Stein in a bathing suit. Yeah. We should pull that up. But my point being, the culture jamming, it's just exposing the craziest aspects of our culture. Here's a really good example.
Starting point is 00:12:00 James O'Keefe went – I don't know if he personally did, but Veritas – I think it might have been Veritas. Maybe it was actually just James. They went door to door, and they asked people if they were – they said, we're a group that supports gun control, and we don't like people having guns. It's dangerous. Do you agree? And they were like, yes, of course. And they said, we would love it if you would put this sign in your lawn saying, proud, gun-free home. And the people went, no, no, I'm not doing that.
Starting point is 00:12:25 And they're like, well, why not? Because you're inviting people to rob you. And then they go, it sounds like you're saying you need guns. No, no, no, I just, I don't want. That is culture jamming. Those kind of stunts that expose and, as you said, jam it in their face.
Starting point is 00:12:42 But it's just like exposing the absurdities of, you know, things that are happening. It's like satire. So it's like real, it's activism in a sense. It's making a point. You can go to someone and you can be super liminal. Hey, X, you know, I will tell you a thing. We need guns to stay safe. We have those rights and people are going to argue with you about it. But you go to them and get them to tell you we will not let people know we don't like guns.
Starting point is 00:13:10 That's a secret. And you're like, hmm, I wonder about that, right? So you didn't know that she was going to speak on 1-6 when you did that, but what were you hoping would happen? Well, I just hope I got a response, just any sort of response. Yeah, I didn't know that she was going to actually take my video and download it and reshare it you know she literally screen recorded it and reshared it i couldn't believe that you know it's got millions of hits on her twitter um so i got i just got to say i feel like you slipped on a banana peel but pulled off a perfect backflip from a hundred percent but that's but see that's the thing is it's you know you miss a hundred percent of the
Starting point is 00:13:40 shots you don't take when gretzky michael scott so my point being is you have to actually you know go out there and try this like it could have been a dud of course but when you're actually on the grind and this is for people watching at home i just want to say you have to go try you know and i'm a try hard for lack of a better word and it worked not every time does it work but this one was gangbusters it made me think of cavanaugh who lately recently had been harassed by people standing outside a restaurant while he was trying to eat a steak. And that was the first thing I thought. I was like, oh, okay. So this is kind of like, I don't know if he's putting it back in someone's, or at least
Starting point is 00:14:12 bringing it. The thing about the Kavanaugh thing was it wasn't televised, so there's no video evidence of it. We heard about it under the rug. But she made a statement, Alex, after you did that. Alex and Alex, hey, that's pretty cool. We should do a talk show. A&A.
Starting point is 00:14:24 And that people aren't, the government's not designed to protect people., Hey, that's pretty good. We should do a talk show. Um, and that people aren't sick. The government's not designed to protect people. And I think that's kind of true. Like that they have, like you were saying, they get harassed often walking up the steps to work. We know where they are. We know where they're centralized,
Starting point is 00:14:35 what building they're in. Like that's not secure for people to be making laws that are angering people or could potentially anger a lot of people. Well, she said that AOC tweeted that we need to make these people uncomfortable. That was exactly her exact words. So that's what I was trying to do. I wanted to make her uncomfortable. Now, I didn't want to cross the line.
Starting point is 00:14:53 I didn't want to say like the P word or ass. I didn't say ass. But I wanted to take it to the limit, and that's what I like to do. I like to tiptoe the line of reality and fiction because I wanted to actually think that I'm attracted to her. And to be honest, AOC's politics are terrible, but she is very attractive. I have to give her that.
Starting point is 00:15:07 I'm telling you, she's got a very pert, petite, derriere. It's not big and booty. It's actually pretty nice. Did you say pert? Pert, you know. Oh my gosh, how old are you?
Starting point is 00:15:18 Pert plus is my shampoo, so I see that word a lot. I don't agree. I understand why, though, people would say that. To me, I think she's rather horsey. I understand why, though, people would say that. To me, I think she's rather horsey. When she opens her mouth, but when her mouth is closed, she looks okay. She's very cute, yeah. I'm not very picky, Tim.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Come on, no. She's got a pulse and she's breathing, right? Yeah, well, not even that. I'm just saying she's in good shape. I think she checks a lot of the boxes. And I can see why she actually got in her position. She's 32 years old. She's one of the most popular congress I can see why she actually got in her position. She's 32 years old. She's one of the most popular congresswomen.
Starting point is 00:15:47 But she actually, in her Netflix documentary, she basically got casted for that. It's basically almost like a casting call. And so I can see why she got picked, almost like you get picked for a reality show or something. She has the look. She has the – she's articulate even though what she's saying is garbage. There's a reason why she's successful because she actually is easy on the eyes. What's the Netflix doc?
Starting point is 00:16:09 I haven't heard of this yet. It's Becoming AOC, I believe is the name of it. Becoming AOC? Something like that. Google it real quick. I forget the name. But in that, it talks about how multiple people for her district submitted basically to get the nomination, and she dominated.
Starting point is 00:16:23 But see, this is another thing we're not talking about. In her own district, a guy that owns a bodega was defending his bodega and ended up stabbing somebody to death that was getting robbed. And he had a $500,000 bond, and they lowered it to $250,000. So people in New York, you can rub feces on somebody and get out of jail within 24 hours. But if you defend your bodega, you're going to get charged with manslaughter, and you're not even going to be able to get out of jail. the hypocrisy in her own district it's literally rotting like the big
Starting point is 00:16:49 apple it's the rotting apple right now and she's all worried about me saying big booty latina so her priorities are absolutely screwed up the documentary is called knock down the house knock down the house from 2019 i i think she. I think the points about her not feeling safe are interesting because, one, I'm hoping that when she was talking about 1-6, she was clapping her hands, clapping her hands. And she looked like Tariff, just completely nervous wreck. I imagine someone in capital would feel like that these days with this heightened sense of security, with economy, inflation and things like that. And I want to help. But also it's not cool to tell people to go make politicians uncomfortable. I mean maybe – that's a very vague thing to tell people.
Starting point is 00:17:37 I don't know. I don't know. I think AOC might be right, but she's just a hypocrite. And I want to say this. Actually, the only reason I disagree with you is because this is part of the left's narrative. They have to be a victim. Victimhood is their favorite thing because if you play the victim, then they're not responsible for your actions. And it's like, oh, well, if you're poor, you can steal, you know? So it's kind of their victimhood mentality. And AOC, she plays the victim better than anybody in Congress. Yet she's super successful. She's
Starting point is 00:18:01 really young. She's been afforded every opportunity possible in life, but she can, if you give her an inch, she's going to take a mile of victimhood. But this is why she's so popular among the millennial left. She exemplifies them given every opportunity, privileged, and then complaining about it. Living one of the most comfortable lives in the world and complaining about it. Well, she talks a lot about how she came from humble beginnings. She used to be a waitress and blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Bartender. You know? Yeah, but ask why there are people who are traveling thousands of miles crawling through desert to come here to work in an industrial setting or in a chicken factory. And she was a waitress living in New York or whatever. In Manhattan, in Union Square, one of the nicest neighborhoods in New York. At that famous Union Square restaurant, right? Yeah, and so she probably did really well
Starting point is 00:18:48 because bartenders actually do pretty good. But it's funny because you make a point and we talk about the border. Over 108,000 drug overdose deaths this year. The issue that we're having with fentanyl, people are literally dying, young kids. The opioid epidemic is one of the worst problems that we're facing.
Starting point is 00:19:03 And politicians, and this is the problem that I have with the conservative side, forget about the worst problems that we're facing. And politicians, and this is the problem that I have with the conservative side, forget about the $80 billion we're giving to Ukraine. Forget about Dan Crenshaw voting for service members that aren't vaccinated to get kicked out of the military. It doesn't matter if you have an R or a D next to your name. I want them to have an A next to their name for America. And that's the problem is that we have all of these politicians that are run by multinational corporations businesses are deciding really what's happening in the world so it doesn't matter if
Starting point is 00:19:30 you're right or left because they do not care about the border between texas and mexico yet they're giving 80 billion dollars to defend the border between russia and ukraine and for me that mostly makes me sick because listen i love the gay community i love the trans community but if you're in the ukraine you cannot. Gay marriage is illegal. If you're transgender in the Ukraine and you try to go to Poland, they give you a gun and they say get back on the front line. So the country that we're defending the most with a huge majority of our money does not even have the same culture that we have here in America. And during Pride Month, no less, they were giving all this money. I saw and I went to the New York City Pride and I saw more Ukrainian flags and I saw rainbow – well, I saw more rainbow flags, but I'm just saying I saw a lot of Ukrainian flags as well.
Starting point is 00:20:08 In all seriousness though, there could have been that quid pro quo. There could have been Joe Biden saying you guys got to ease up on the LGBTQ stuff. We're going to fund you, but let's – Tim, this is what makes me so mad. I don't care all day long. Hunter Biden can smoke crack all day long. No, serious. I'm dead serious.
Starting point is 00:20:24 As a matter of fact, I think that makes him endearing because everybody knows somebody that's a drug addict. What we don't talk about, we don't talk about his business dealings in China. We don't talk about
Starting point is 00:20:32 the quid pro quo Joe talking about giving a billion dollars, making sure they had the right people in power in the Ukraine. And now we're fighting a proxy war, fighting a war by proxy, killing young people over what? Over decisions made by a crackhead president, by the president's crackhead
Starting point is 00:20:51 son. That gets no media attention, but they're going to give you the prostitutes all day long. They're going to give you the crack pipe all day long. Like you said- Oh, we talk about the quid pro quo stuff. I don't shut up about it. No, but what I'm saying is your frustration about, hey, I'm so mad that the big booty Latina is the head story because the real story is that January 6th, the Capitol Police let people in. And that's obvious because people couldn't get in. They didn't have a key to get into the door. But it's the same thing. The crazy thing is there's that video going viral right now where the window is smashed out.
Starting point is 00:21:20 They still can't get in because it's maglocked. And then these guys look up at someone and point, and then releases the mag lock and that could have been an insurrectionist whatever you want to call them it may be someone broken found the mag lock release and they said press it or maybe it was a cop because we did see other cops open the door directly we saw other cops taking selfies so i'm with aoc on that one i want the investigation too a thousand percent we want the investigation obviously she thinks the outcome will be different from what the right thinks it will be. But I don't think that's relevant.
Starting point is 00:21:47 I think the question is what happened. And we look at January 6th, you know, obviously, there's some people, one of my very good friends, Luke Coffey, you know, he has a GoFundMe. He's actually being charged with assaulting a police officer. He's actually kind of well known. He's the crutch guy. And he held a crutch. He found a crutch on the ground and did he kind of, you know, put it against the riot
Starting point is 00:22:03 shields. And now he's being charged with assaulting a cop and let me tell you something the guy's a 37 year old young nice kid that you know felt you know that there was an injustice even though it was the 37 year old young kid i'm just saying he's a young middle-aged man middle aged man but i'm just saying he's not he's not built for excuse me he's not built for federal prison is my point being i think he would be young for prison but it was the most fair election the best election ever joe biden got 81 million votes i just want to put federal prison is my point being. I think he would be young for prison. But it was the most fair election, the best election ever. Joe Biden got 81 million votes. I just want to put that on record.
Starting point is 00:22:29 My point being there is people there that loved our country very much, and now they're being labeled as a domestic terrorist. They're saying it's worse than 9-11. And for me, I look back at our government's track record. The same people that said we had weapons of mass destruction, which we didn't, are the same people that are saying American citizens that love our country the most are terrorists. So the government is going to lie to you to create a narrative that's not true. I'll tell you what I think. I think the people that rioted, I think the people that were fighting with cops, even pushing on the cops, that's bad, and there's got to be some accountability there. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:22:59 But I think that when Trump gets in office in 2024 – well, in 2025, blanket pardon across the board. But do you think Trump will beat DeSantis? I don't know. I don't know. But I'm saying like – I'm not saying that will happen. I'm just saying if Trump or DeSantis gets in, I think without condemning – actually, no. With a little condemnation, but with recognizing the threat this country faces through the massive divide, I think you've got to get these people out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:29 You've talked about it before. Shays' Rebellion. Shays' Rebellion. Yeah. John Hancock pardoned a bunch of the farmers that had rebelled because they were being overtaxed. They didn't have the money. They were just back from the revolution, soldiers with their fortunes depleted. And then they were getting imprisoned because they didn't have the money still that they didn't have.
Starting point is 00:23:43 And they just surrounded the courthouse, refused to let the people, the judges act. And there was jail sentences and stuff. And then Hancock came in and was like, no, no, no. We're forming a union. You're pardoned. Everyone's pardoned. Well, let's talk about Trump because everybody loves Trump. And I love the Trump that calls little Marco Rubio.
Starting point is 00:24:00 I love the Trump. What's he going to say about DeSantis? I think Hancock didn't pardon. He pardoned everyone except for for three people or two people. But my point being is, listen, Trump I think had 11 days in office where he could have pardoned some people. You look at Trump with Julian Assange who the WikiLeaks basically gave him the 2016 election. Yet he doesn't get a pardon. Kodak Black gets one.
Starting point is 00:24:20 I'm not saying that Kodak Black, good rapper, not saying he shouldn't get one. But I think Trump has a serious, you know, priority issue. I just – I got to point this out. Never in my life growing up, like in the 2000s into Occupy Wall Street and after, for several years after, did I think that at one point in my life I would be sitting across the table from a conservative? I would say yes. Yeah, well, I'm kind of down the middle, but yeah. point in my life i would be sitting across the table from a conservative i would say yes yeah i'm kind of down the middle but yeah suit wearing guy arguing that the republican president should have pardoned julian assange because 10 years ago the left loved assange and now they leave him
Starting point is 00:24:56 hanging out to dry they they leave him to rot tim you made your bones excuse me well you say what you're going to say i was going to say trump is the reason they're trying to extradite Julian Assange too. I think Trump wanted Julian Assange because Julian knows things about the DNC and Trump wanted that. And so now he's being handed off to Joe Biden, which is extremely dangerous. But anyway. Well, let's talk about Occupy because I know that was a huge thing for you. Those people were very anti-establishment then. Those people were anti-banks.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Now these people love Pfizer. They love banks. They love Halliburton. So it just shows you that these people are under what I call mass formation hypnosis. They don't even know whose side to be on. I agree. And this wasn't that long ago. Like you said, in 2008, when we had the financial crash, people were out there protesting for what I agree is, I'm anti-establishment. I'm not right or left. I just don't like the establishment. I think that the system is just terrible. And the people in power, once they get in power, I talk about the multinational corporations. All they care about is their political action committee. They care about the money that they're getting donated.
Starting point is 00:25:54 It's like you look at Apple. Apple freaking in China at their Foxconn factories. Instead of paying their employees more, they have suicide nets because so many employees are jumping off the roof. But instead of paying them a little more, they make stronger nets. They make bigger nets. So we have a priority issue because it's the globalization of America, and that's why I'm an American first guy because I care about America. I want to actually put America in the forefront. But if you say you're a nationalist or if you have an American flag in your yard, that's a hate symbol.
Starting point is 00:26:21 You're right-wing now. Yeah, exactly. And I'm considered alt-right because I love America, and that's not how it should be. But they create a narrative that America is bad. Yet nearly 100,000 people, even more than that, illegally cross into our country every month. So go figure. If it's such a racist place, why does everyone want to immigrate here? Man, you hit the nail on the head right there.
Starting point is 00:26:42 I completely agree. I never really cared all that much for the left, the right, you know, that ideas. It was always just like the machine is broken. It is unjust. It is corrupt. It is manipulative. And so that is, for me, especially it starts with the media because the media is lying to people and they just go along with it. So that's really what got me here.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Early on in my career, I wasn't talking that much about Democrats, Republicans. It was the media and their lies. Well, as time goes on, you start to realize they're lying to benefit the Uniparty, which morphed into the Democrats when Trump took over. And then you get a narrative. The Democratic Party is the party of the establishment, wealthy elites. The media props them up. The Lincoln Project and the neocons joined the Democrats after Trump took over.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Half the Republican Party is extremely bad. The other third is really bad. There's a small handful of them that are okay for me i'm like thomas massey's cool ran paul i like carter taylor green is great and the rest of them there's a few others that are that are doing a decently good job but the machine itself is dominated by the uniparty and it's just corrupt i don don't care about how much taxes you want to take. That's ancillary. It's after the fact. We can have a conversation about that. For the time being, it's corrupt people lying, cheating, and stealing and destroying the country.
Starting point is 00:27:53 I wonder if it's the media is manipulating the politicians. I'm sure it's happening on some level or if they're all colluding or if the politicians are making the media act that way. But I think like Alexandria Cortez, she didn't ever mention – I've never heard her mention the 1-6 cops letting people in on 1-6. I've never heard her mention that until a couple days ago. And it's been two years of people in solitary. Did she not hear about it? Are they that insulated?
Starting point is 00:28:15 It's hard to think that people could be so insulated that they don't see what I see. But I've spent a lot of my time looking at a lot of things from the outside. I think when you're in that D.C. environment, they may actually be very intentionally insulated. No, Ian, I deserve all the credit. I broke her. I broke her. I created an emotional response. She thinks that getting called a big booty Latina is the same gravity as 1-6. A hundred percent.
Starting point is 00:28:41 She thinks the cops are basically, since they didn't arrest me, which they did. They did. She complained five times. She said that in her own tweet. And the cops did know are basically you know since they didn't arrest me which they did they did she complained five times she said that in her own tweet and the cops did come and they ID'd me I gave them my ID I said am I under arrest am I being detained they said no and I was able to walk away and her watching me walk away I know made her so mad that she's like I hate these capital police oh my god they let the rioters
Starting point is 00:28:59 in so that's what happened but what was interesting is that she then she must have known about it for a while oh come on Ian everybody knows about this and listen
Starting point is 00:29:09 she's the same person that said she was afraid of her life yet she was a mile away and at the same time even if every single rioter went in did they really think
Starting point is 00:29:17 that they were going to be able to you know even do any sort of legislation come on so this is a narrative that for some reason
Starting point is 00:29:23 has even been difficult to permeate the right. When AOC said she was scared when they came and knocked on her door, she wasn't just not in the Capitol. She fabricated the story outright. Ooh, a politician lied. What? This is a tough one for me
Starting point is 00:29:38 to wrap my head around. I thought she claimed to be in one of the bathrooms hiding in a bathroom stall. In her office. Let me break this down for you because I will tell the story every chance I get. AOC did an Instagram video, it's about 45 minutes long, where she said she's in her office and she hears a knock, knock, knock. And she got scared thinking it's them. They've gotten here. What do I do? And they said, go hide in the bathroom. And I did. And the door opens and it's a police officer going, or it's a man
Starting point is 00:30:03 going, where is she? Where is she? And she's like, she said she thought she was going to die. Turns out it was a police officer evacuating her. What she doesn't tell you, although she kind of does. Is that she was in there pooping? No, is that that happened, I believe, one full hour before the barricades were breached at the front of the building. Meaning no one knew anyone was going to get into the Capitol.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Except Ray Epps. He knew. Right. Well, AOC claimed she thought they had made it to her office. How does that make sense? Nobody was in the building. Nobody knew they were going to get in the building. And if AOC knew they were going to breach the building, why didn't she report it?
Starting point is 00:30:41 Weird questions there, right? The media tried defending her saying, yes, she wasn't in the Capitol. She was in her office. But there are tunnels that connect the Capitol to her office that explains it. I had a guy from the Huffington Post tell me that I was wrong
Starting point is 00:30:56 when I tweeted her story didn't make sense. And he DMs me and then I pulled the timeline and he responds in private DM going like, oh, oh, you're right. When she claimed that she thought they got to her office and she was going to die no one had even attempted to breach the capitol building she made the story up it was like a full hour before the barricades even moved something like that and then they made their way to the front of the capitol but aoc had no idea
Starting point is 00:31:22 was going to happen she fabricated the story after the fact. And people bought it, believed it, and they still do to this day. I've been thinking lately, no matter how emotional I am about something, no matter how strongly I feel about something, it doesn't make it more or less right. So crying, saying it's real doesn't make it more or less real. Yeah, you have to be emotional. And I don't want to get too conspiratorial, it kind of sounds like you remember how larry silverstein
Starting point is 00:31:47 during 9-11 you know he's usually has breakfast there and he happened to be having a uh a little doctor's appointment for a scan i'm just saying you know it's not a surprise that these people probably do have prior knowledge to stuff that's going to happen and we talk about ray epps because i know you want to expose that but literally he's on camera saying we need to have an insurrection we need to go inside. Yet you look at the mainstream media, New York Times, Adam Kinzinger, if they're running cover for him. They are running cover for him. Then you know what the truth is.
Starting point is 00:32:13 You know that he's involved and they're protecting him. But let me say this real quick because we know about the mockingbird media. We know the government admits that they have literally intelligence in every radio, television, film, every form of media that we have. So it would be impossible for him to be this protected by the media if he wasn't in on it. Well, it's possible that he wasn't in on it and that they just don't know. It is possible. You're talking about probability in this instance. I really doubt that.
Starting point is 00:32:40 I think the first thing I say about Ray Epps is we just don't know. The second thing I'll say is what we do know is Epps is we just don't know. The second thing I'll say is what we do know is that he called for storming the Capitol and he's not being criminally charged. He's being protected. He's being he's been protected by the media and by an M Kings or Kinzinger defended him online. The question then becomes why we have no evidence to explain what their motivation is. We could only surmise at the very least a plausible minimum non-conspiratory responses. Ray Epps may have been the first guy the feds went after because he was on the live stream saying it. They may have been looking at him right away.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Made a deal. Made a deal with him immediately. It could have been the night before he's on a live stream telling people to storm the Capitol. I imagine this before anything happened. Feds could have went right to him in the hotel and said, you're going to wear a wire. You're going to give us names and you work for us now as a CI. And that's why after the fact you don't see him getting charged. Not that he's a federal agent, but that he may have been an informant after the fact. Now that's a minimum.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Maybe there's something else beyond this. I just don't know. What I do know is it is very strange that they're putting people in solitary. They're charging them with seditious conspiracy, but the guy who's literally on camera telling people to do it, telling them how to do it, hasn't been charged. Tim, MAGA granny, there's a grandma in there with a little flag and she's a hardened criminal. They actually think she's going to be able to overthrow the government. The photo of the one with the little flag was from, I think, Madison. But there is currently a 69-year-old cancer patient going to 60 days in jail for trespassing.
Starting point is 00:34:14 And you know why the judge said that? Because the judge had let somebody else off, and they went on Fox News and didn't show remorse. But in the courtroom, they did show remorse. So because of somebody else's conviction, she got 60 days, 69-year-old cancer patient. So that's where we're at. That's what I'm saying. So the funny thing is,
Starting point is 00:34:31 and I'm glad AOC said the doors were opened by police because that is a huge, huge, powerful political point. And I will say I am shocked that it is the result of you calling AOC a big booty Latina. Well, we don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:45 It's the result. No, it is. It is. And reality is stranger than fiction, Tim. You have to realize that. This is important because there are many people like the 69-year-old cancer patient. Pamela Hemphill, by the way. I don't know her specific story, but I really doubt the 69-year-old cancer patient was fighting with police officers.
Starting point is 00:35:04 She's probably one of the people who saw the door opened and walked in very casually. And she was on medical marijuana probably, so she didn't even know where she was at. I'm just kidding. Because the police opened the door. In more than one location, police at the Capitol building opened the doors. There's even an instance where the police fanned people in. And a man was acquitted on all counts because he showed a video to the judge of him being motioned in by the officer. So he was acquitted for that. There was more than one door that was open. There was an instance where the cop said he
Starting point is 00:35:33 respected what the people were doing. And there's instances where the cops took selfies with people. So now this woman is going to jail for 60 days after she was potentially invited in, or some people were. These people need to be pardoned across the board for this ridiculous misdemeanor stuff. And it is powerful, extremely powerful now that AOC has said the doors were open. That needs, that clip needs to be, I don't know, should I take that clip and should I buy TV commercials like it? Let's do it. Honestly.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Hey, but let's not forget Ashley Babbitt, probably let in by a Capitol Police officer, gets shot and murdered. And she was a veteran. She's somebody that loved their country so much. And she just gets thrown under the rug as some evil person. So not only did these people get let in, but some people got murdered. I think maybe we do a – I have to figure out how to do it. There's a lot of things I want to do that never happen, unfortunately, which I don't like bringing it.
Starting point is 00:36:20 I don't like saying we want to do things if we don't have a means to actually get it done. But I would love to see a commercial where it's like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says that there were cops and other people who opened the doors to let that in on January 6th and has called for an investigation. We agree with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Support the calls for an investigation
Starting point is 00:36:40 into who opened the doors at the Capitol building. Can you play that video? Let me see if... She's got to be regretting that now. Or not. I think she's being very serious, and it is disturbing. AOC Big Booty is the person that aggregates. May have let people in.
Starting point is 00:36:54 AOC Big Booty popped up when I typed in AOC. That's funny. And that people would be in... If police let people in, and those people that were let in are in solitary confinement, it is inane. It is abjunct to American democracy.
Starting point is 00:37:08 I just want to say real quick, my video talking about AOC and the big booty thing was age restricted on YouTube. What? The video where I talked about big booty Latina and all that stuff, they age restricted it. That's because it's an adult term. Maybe. Booties? Because don't babies wear booties no well those
Starting point is 00:37:26 are so here's here's here's the video clip let's listen let's uh wait i on this time i'm going to make sure we have the audio set properly before i press play and that there were actual officers working with this and we never got to the bottom of that and we never got any answers about that and then to this day we're just supposed to pretend that that never happened i have no idea what happened to the people on the inside who were very clearly sympathetic with what was going on and opening the doors wide open for that and we're i'm supposed to sit here and pretend like none of that ever happened and then right afterwards you have a massive you know you just have this idea that throwing money at that problem is going to make it go away without any accountability. And so this is where these things are breaking down.
Starting point is 00:38:11 We're not safe. And it's not just about members of Congress not being safe. The food staff workers aren't safe. The janitors aren't safe. Like, we need to get to the bottom of this. Yes. So I'd love to get, like, a commercial of commercial of like a 60-year-old man being like, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says people on the inside open the doors.
Starting point is 00:38:30 This is what happened. When you talked to her, when you approached her on the steps, she was with a Capitol Police officer that didn't get in your way and stop you. And now she's questioning, is that guy in it? And she's wondering if there are like traitors in the building. Whatever her reasoning is, it's important that we find out if people let people into the building because those people are in solitary confinement right now.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Ian, do you think they had a key? I mean, how do you think they opened the door? I saw a magnetic lock on the door get opened. I saw the video of a cop looking at it. I don't know. Someone off camera. Yep. And it was a police officer that looked up.
Starting point is 00:39:02 You think these dudes who are trying to break a window to get in know where the mag release is? And you don't think there's some of those cops that probably were sympathetic to what was happening? Sure. I mean, she's obviously correct. And I don't care what the end result is. Maybe the end result is like, members of Congress were in on it. Good, whatever.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Let's have an investigation into who opened those doors. If there were members of Congress that were orchestrating the opening of the door to bring people in to disrupt this, then we should find out who did that and why. I think all of these bumbling dotards, these old people, the magamimos, who just saw a clear path and cops waving them in, who walked in and now have their lives destroyed, should be pardoned. Those people should have never been charged. That was a fault of Capitol Police and the government. I want an investigation of the cops who opened the doors.
Starting point is 00:39:49 If they didn't open the doors, this wouldn't have happened. Well, and your bestie, Joe Rogan, talks about one of his favorite things that Alex Jones did. He exposed the WTO about, I believe it was in Seattle, where there were agent provocateurs who stayed in a building. And basically they were all wearing the same boots. And agent provocateurs exist. Now you're going to say, oh, none of them were on January 6th. We have evidence of people using agent provocateurs to make a riot look bad. That's a playbook.
Starting point is 00:40:13 It's kind of similar to Operation Northwoods, which is a declassified thing where they're going to take planes and fly them into buildings during the Cuban Missile Crisis. And the 9-11 was kind of similar to that. But what I'm saying is, if you do not think the government has classified levels of information and it is creating a narrative by using their own military cia fbi whatever you want to call it alphabet agencies in order to make things look worse than they really are you know you might be a conspiracy because it's a reason to get more funding for more security apparatus to grow the security it's a false flag attack guys and this is a false flag attack playbook i mean you know i could be wrong i'm not saying that i know everything but just
Starting point is 00:40:48 all of the evidence when we see ray apps and we see the way the media is protecting them it's hard for me to imagine that this was all just accidental yeah it could be a hybrid of like people getting angry and going to the capitol storming and people trying to benefit off it by making it come out worse as a result. So it could be both. I think if it is in that vein of false flag, it's more so that they allowed it to happen. And that's why there's video of police officers not intervening. There's a guy walking up to cops being like, why won't you stop this? And the cops are like, we don't care.
Starting point is 00:41:20 It explains more so why there was no National Guard, no heavy police presence, why their claim, like Trump said he wanted the National Guard there and they rejected it. So if, I'll put it this way. On 5-29, the left insurrected. They tried to, they did tear down the barricades of the White House. They set fire to St. John's Church and the guard post. They forced the president into a bunker. If the police there stood down and they tore the fences down or breached the White House, there would not be a one six. Donald Trump would be president.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Donald Trump. There would have been a major statement. There would have been far left extremists have breached the White House. Americans would have been terrified. They would have said this is insane. And then the conversation would have been the police saying things like we stood down because we did not want to hurt people and we didn't know how to react to this level. But what happens is the police go out, do their job and clear the space. And the response from the media and the Democrats was to investigate the police over it.
Starting point is 00:42:18 They said the Capitol Police should be investigated for attacking protesters. That's how it went down on January January 6th, because the police let everyone do everything, it's, oh, oh, geez, the police were the poor victims, and these are the bad guys. It's the very typical, I'm the victim narrative that is used to manipulate people to gain power.
Starting point is 00:42:37 And it is potentially possible that that was happening. Like, a cop's like, there's 700 screaming people, I'm not getting involved. Are you kidding me? That could probably also have been part of it. I wouldn't. I mean, what are you going to do? You get mobbed if that happens.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Let's talk about the Summer of Love 2020. RIP George Floyd. He's one of the greatest Americans of all time. One of my favorite actors. But what I'm saying is George Floyd, they literally burned down multiple cities. And Kamala Harris donated to their bail bond fund. If that is not a false flag. So that's basically encouraging people to cause as much damage knowing you're going to get out a free jail card.
Starting point is 00:43:11 How much more evidence do you need that they like the protesting? They want this to happen. So the fact that they would convince Trumpers to go and do some sort of insurrection, I wouldn't put them past them. And we talk about this. I do in my show MKUltra. And you think of it doesn't have to be the 1984, you know, make you watch a video with your eyes wide open. You can propagandize people with just the mainstream media, with just commercials, with just, you know, basically creating a narrative.
Starting point is 00:43:33 You can target someone's Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram to only see certain things that will drive them insane. And this is the crazy thing people need to realize about these platforms. Facebook did an experiment on people years ago where they only showed them negative content to see how their posts would change and how they would behave. Well, and you know it sees the dilation of your pupil when you press a like or you give it access to their rear face. They admit this. You give access to the front-facing camera and it will actually measure the dilation of your pupil if you hit a like.
Starting point is 00:44:05 That's why they created the multiple emojis in order to see the different dilation levels of the eyeballs with a different response. So we know that Facebook was experimenting on people. They were showing some people only happy content. People got happy. They showed people negative, angry content. People got angry. They could choose. Facebook knows this.
Starting point is 00:44:23 So they can probably seek out we we're looking for angry people they find 50 angry people okay we want the 50 angry people in this particular area now we're all we're going to make sure the only thing they see is the government doing things that violate people's rights then these people start getting angry and angry every day seeing this being like, what is happening? What is happening? What is my life?
Starting point is 00:44:48 And then they get a message from somebody or they comment on the post and there's another person that has to be a Fed being like, oh yeah, I am also angry. Why don't you come here and plan something? And then the Feds come in and we gotcha. Or they screw up and then someone actually gets out and does something
Starting point is 00:45:02 and they're like, oops, well, better arrest them. What's the FBI's favorite narrative after a school shooting? He was on our radar. He was on our radar. He was on our radar, but we just – he wasn't big enough on our radar. Well, proving the red flag laws don't do anything. Yeah, well, and Dan Crenshaw voted for that in a state like Texas. What happened to that guy?
Starting point is 00:45:22 Because like you said, he's bought and sold by these multinational corporations and he doesn't care about America because he's the same guy that, you know, he lost his eye in the war but he wants to send more people to fight for the war. I'm a conflict interventionist. I hate the war. I don't think there's any necessary reason to kill other people. Even if you have the biggest conflict in the world, you have
Starting point is 00:45:39 the biggest disagreement. We are human beings. That's what separates us from the animals. We should be able to come to agreement like humans. What about with with communists i don't even think we should fight communism but what if the communists are subverting your country and killing people and sterilizing kids and you're like i'm the guy that stands in front of the tank and gets ran over i mean that's honestly how i feel i i i hear you um i agree for the most part i think the foreign intervention is is typically a huge mistake but I'm not so naive to not understand the argument
Starting point is 00:46:08 made by neocons there's a power vacuum in the Middle East if we don't do it China moves in China's moving into Afghanistan it's going to seize up all that lithium it's going to empower a really really awful country and so I don't think the US's argument for what they do is justifying it
Starting point is 00:46:22 but I understand the point they're making in not wanting China. Tim, they said weapons of mass destruction. We have enough oil and gas reserves in Texas alone for America. The real reason is that the U.S. wanted justification to dominate other regions to prevent a multipolar world. No, it's for the military-industrial complex. I mean I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying it's a nuanced situation. That's a component of it. Yeah, it's for the military-industrial complex. I mean, I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying it's a nuanced situation. That's a component of it.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Yeah, it's a big component. It's a big component, quite possibly the biggest. But I don't think it is just that simple. It is true that China is gaining ground, expanding in South America and Africa, continent-wise. And as the U.S. starts to recede, they start expanding. And then we're going to have to contend with a multipolar world where you have a China as a serious contender as a world power. Yeah, but Tim, you look at Barack Obama.
Starting point is 00:47:13 He won the Nobel Peace Prize. And all he had to do was drop a drone strike every 20 minutes for eight years. He killed people at weddings. I know. He killed children with these drones. I think it's wrong. So that's – to me, if you kill – it's like why I don't really like the death penalty because if you use capital punishment, you murder one innocent person, which you've done most.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Agreed. It makes it necessarily the whole system screwed up. I completely agree on all of that. Yeah. This is why I oppose the death penalty. But it's funny you say China because they say it's our biggest threat, and I agree that they are a threat because I think it's the Chinese fentanyl that they can add a molecule to that they're flooding through the border. Like I said earlier, we have a massive opioid epidemic. But China, they rely on us like we rely on them.
Starting point is 00:47:49 So it's almost a copacetic relationship. One cannot exist without the other at this point. So they want to give us the impression that we're always going to be fighting with them. But their economy is dying right now. Our economy is dying. So what I'm saying is unless we come together and build each other up, we're not going to make it. So by killing each other, I think that just makes the problem worse. We actually have to come to some sort of agreement like the Donbass region of Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:48:13 And if Russia wants a little land, give them some land. I don't even care. I don't want young children to die. Call me a conflict interventionist. Call me a – excuse my language – wussy, whatever. That's how I am. You did see Hitler wanted a little land in the Sudetenland and they gave it to him and then you saw – Yeah, but everybody's Hitler.
Starting point is 00:48:30 I mean come on, Ian. You know what I mean? That's it. But appeasement is not always the best. But it's not about Hitler and using the Nazi analogy. It's about a conflict in which we said we'll give you land and the person said, okay. I want more. Yeah, give a mouse cookie.
Starting point is 00:48:43 You got to give a milk. I get that. I've been thinking about – I've kind of taken a neutral stance on the war machine. I was picturing having a conversation with Hillary Clinton last night and just like – where she's just totally candid like, yeah, yeah, whatever. And I'm like, okay. So what's up, dude? And she's like, Ian, we're running the military machine. This is it.
Starting point is 00:48:59 This is the war machine. We have it right now. It's since the dawn of man there has been a war machine. And now it's American. And we have to use it. If we don't, someone else will take it. Ian, Ian, let me say this. There's a little country called Libya.
Starting point is 00:49:12 And Muammar Gaddafi was universally loved by his people, even though there's a different narrative. Let me tell you something. Libya is the only place in the world right now that has slave auctions. It happens today. What did Hillary Clinton say? We came. We saw. He died. auctions happens today what did hillary clinton say we came we saw he died so hillary clinton
Starting point is 00:49:26 going into countries doing the war machine is the only place on earth where you can go buy a slave in 2022 i could go there right now and go buy me a slave think about that that's all because of hillary who her husband flew on jeffrey epstein's plane 26 times without secret service and galene maxwell the only person to get 20 years in prison for sex trafficking children to no one. So let me tell you something. These people making the decision do not care about children. They do not care about killing babies. And they definitely don't care about black people if there's a slave trade going on in a country that they destabilize.
Starting point is 00:49:59 They care to the point where it's utilitarian decision-making because destruction and moving resources around is a utilitarian function. It doesn't matter who's getting them as long as enough people get them. For the banks. Yeah. Or for the stabilization of the system. I don't think Hillary Clinton – I'm sorry, Ian. You can make the argument about some global elites that they think they're doing the right thing and that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. But Hillary Clinton is not that.
Starting point is 00:50:26 She ran the war machine for a while. But what I mean is the accounts of Hillary Clinton are that she's like literally the devil. She's not trying to help anyone. How can you get into the position of American commander and not be the devil? Your job is to destroy what's wrong. Listen, what I'm saying is there are some world leaders that you could make an argument they're utilitarians who think they're doing good.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Hillary Clinton is not one of those people. She is a demon who wants to cause mass suffering. I mean, she's just a mom, but she got... No, she's not just a mom. She's not just a mom.
Starting point is 00:50:56 When she laughed about that child who was raped, this woman is evil. When was that? When she was younger, she was..., she was, was she interning for a lawyer? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:07 And then she got, Offended a rapist. And that's fine. Everybody deserves defense. Yeah, I agree with that. She laughed about how she got him, he got away with it. I vaguely remember that.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Yeah. Well, what makes someone like that? Narcissistic sociopathy? That's it. There's a story that she was on, I think she was on a U.S. Air Force plane, and there are ranking officers
Starting point is 00:51:31 who are like engineers and pilots, and she holds up a wine glass that's empty and goes, and they're looking around like, what? And she goes, I think what's happening is... Like these military officers
Starting point is 00:51:43 need to pour her wine for her? That was a story. There was a book about it. There's numerous stories I think what's happening is – Like these military officers need to pour her wine for her? Of course. That was a story. There was a book about it. There's numerous stories about how she treats people with disdain. She disparages people. She treats them like garbage insects. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:55 So my point. Personal stuff aside, the system is insanely destructive that we live in. And I was like, well, we've never really done a genocide in the United States. And I was like, the native population. Oh, yeah, we genocided 90-some percent of them. So this whole system is about destroying people and things, taking land, getting your food, getting for your people. And like, okay, accept that if you want to talk about it, at least, you know. So the issue here is that's the history of the world of all peoples.
Starting point is 00:52:24 And now the power is in the United States' hands. And that's why – like do we want it out of the United States? Like I like your idea of a peaceful union of people, but we need to make sure they have enough food and resources and water. So let's sell all the farmland to Bill Gates. But let me tell you this. RIP Norm MacDonald, probably one of the best comedians. But he – when he was on SNL, when he was doing Weekend Update, he's one of the funniest guys ever. He would go after Hillary for Vince Foster. Vince Foster, I believe, was the chief of staff for Bill.
Starting point is 00:52:51 And he's a guy that died in a park. I think it was like two gunshots to their head. So I'm not even talking about the Clinton body count. I'm just saying where there's smoke, there's fire. I could defend AOC a million times over before I would defend Hillary Clinton. Just based on, like you said, the laughing at the rape of a child. You look at all the conspiracy behind her. So to defend these elitists because there's – it's like a multilevel marketing scheme, Ian.
Starting point is 00:53:14 One person or a few people benefit from all of our suffering. It's very compartmentalized. You kind of want to be – in your head, you want to think that, oh, the system is fair. But that's called cognitive dissonance, thinking the government has your back, when in reality, the government is going to pee on you all day until you're draining. I don't think it's fair. I think it's highly unfair. We're going to pull this – we're going to do the segment on this one.
Starting point is 00:53:35 We're going to do it. Norm MacDonald, man. This is the best. Oh, Vince Foster, Deputy White House Counsel. Have you ever seen the Norm MacDonald on The View, Bill Clinton murdered a guy? Oh, boy. Let's – Barbara Walters.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Look at her. You've got to see her. You're supposed to see him. That's a little desperate, isn't it? Let's jump to a lie or a crook murder or anything like that. I love George Bush, man. He's a good man, decent. You know, none of this.
Starting point is 00:53:59 False. He's not a lie or a crook murderer, or anything like that. So it would be good to get the... See, I think we should get the homicide out of the White House and get a fresh start, because we don't want any more murderers. I think we should just go on to the next question. Oh, my. Oh, Clinton, he murdered a guy. Wow.
Starting point is 00:54:25 That's a little too far. That's the way it does work. Let's just go on to the next question. Oh, all right. This is not my week. Wait, he pushes it. Oh, it's not mine either, and I'm being very nice, okay? Be a good boy.
Starting point is 00:54:40 Now, Norm. Do you never hear that? No. Listen, we don't need to talk about this. I don't want to hear it, and this is not the place to make those accusations, and you not hear that? No. Listen, we don't need to talk about this. I don't want to hear it. I don't want to talk. And this is not the place to make those accusations. And you're supposed to be funny. Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:52 There you go. This is a live show. But you have been properly chastised by Barbara. So I'm now going to ask the next question. I thought it was a matter of record. Shut up. Shut up. Let me do this, okay? I'll tell you what's a matter of record.
Starting point is 00:55:09 You will not be invited back if you don't shut up. All right, now. He was never invited back. Really. Let's talk football. All right, manslaughter. Let's talk. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Did you ever hear the word? Oh, I certainly hope that somebody calling to tell you to go home. Oh, no. You got a phone ringing. This is the producer. He gives it out. And get a phone. Hello?
Starting point is 00:55:38 Oh, yeah. Oh, no. The thing is this. You know Matt Strauss? Yeah, the producer. The producer. He told me it would be funny. He said, why don't you carry a cell phone on and then let it ring and then pretend like there's a guy on it.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Is there anybody on it? No, it's a thing. Pretend. You know what, Norm? You're a dick, man. That's the end of it. But it's funny. You make a really good point in there, though.
Starting point is 00:56:01 She says, let's talk about football. Because, listen, I used to love professional sports. But that is what distracts us, Tim, from really what's going on. They give us bread and circuses. Oh, my gosh, I'm going to drink my beer on Sunday and watch the Dallas Cowboys lose for the 100th straight year. You know, when I was younger, I was very much like I wish people stopped focusing on the sports and paid attention to politics. But now that really, really dumb people are treating politics like sports, I'm like, maybe that was a bad idea. Yeah, but sports, listen, LeBron James, he's never read past the first page of a book.
Starting point is 00:56:32 And he votes and he gets political and he comes out and he campaigns and it's like, stop, please, please stop. You don't read, you don't know what you're talking about. But who does he defend the most? China. So my point being is sports are great. It's part of American culture. Baseball.
Starting point is 00:56:43 We got it. I don't do good impressions. But what I'm saying is sports are important. I think for of American culture. Baseball. We got it. I don't do good impressions. But what I'm saying is sports are important. I think for the youth, it gives them some sort of structure. I think skateboarding, anything. I'm saying any athletic prowess is good for young people instead of sitting and just playing a game. Speaking of, I want to actually make this point. This is what I envision the future is.
Starting point is 00:56:58 I actually believe that we're going to have some sort of vanilla sky matrix future where people are going to be so – their lives are going to be so tumultuous outside of it that they're going to actually convince people to plug into what is called the metaverse, very similar to the matrix. And they're going to say, listen, we're going to intubate you. And in the metaverse, Ian, you're going to have a 10-inch – you know what? You're going to have – you're going to be dating a supermodel. All the people – So it would be smaller. Yeah but what i'm saying is uh my point being is that you're gonna
Starting point is 00:57:31 have a beautiful supermodel life and instead of living your 72 years on average on earth you're gonna live for a thousand years and you can look this up they're actually talking about prison sentences for people where you can make somebody think that they had a 10 000 year sentence in a in a week you could be in it right now. You could. You're like wondering why your life sucks, why you're poor, and it's like you're in jail. But my point being is the technology that they're going to have. And there's a thing called the uncanny valley.
Starting point is 00:58:00 And actually, I forget the exact term for it, but like AT&T, Verizon, what they do is they try to actually get – like when you call a robot basically to try to get customer service, they're trying to create technology where you can't tell that you're talking to a robot, and they can't do it. If they're ever tested, they can't do it because there's a thing called uncanny valley where they can't make it exactly like a human. It's not going to have the same speech pattern. You're always going to be able to tell. Someday they will though, maybe. Well, you say that. You say that, and that's why I don't necessarily think they will because I think it's almost impossible.
Starting point is 00:58:24 And the reason why is you say, oh oh artificial intelligence will be able to create that really artificial intelligence just takes basically it can make future decisions for you based on past decisions but the idea that it can be you and me there's some sort of uniqueness about us that i do believe is impossible to recreate i think that could be our soul personally but i just think it's almost impossible there There's a movie. Artificial emotion. There's a movie where they invent – there's like eye drops. Was it a movie or a show? I don't know. And then it simulates an experience.
Starting point is 00:58:52 And so like this woman like puts the eye drops in and then in the span of like 10 minutes, she spends a weekend in Aspen. And then her business partner is like, I've got a better use for this prison sentences. That's nice. And then she's like, you can't do this. And then they fight. And then she like pins him down. And she like, you know, he like puts the drop in her eye and forces her into like a thousand year prison chamber. It's like all psychological.
Starting point is 00:59:13 So there's literally no way to escape. You could also make it where it it it happened like you experienced 10 seconds in the metaverse. But when you come out, it's 70 years later in real life. You'd be dead, though. Yeah, that's a way to like comatose people. So here's a thought. Here's a thought. What if your life, your mundane life where you're trying to live right, you're trying to be a good person, you're resisting all this woke communism garbage in reality?
Starting point is 00:59:37 You are a woke communist who was involved in some antifa violence. And so you were sentenced to rehabilitation where they make you live a life on the other side to experience violence from them so then when you finally come out you're like i can't stand those people and then you're like whoa i was those people now i get it and you've been reprogrammed well it's like inception but i'll be honest you know we talk about the prison industry and you know a lot of people on the conservative side will say systemic racism doesn't exist but for me i do believe it exists because you look at a lot of the nonviolent drug offenders in jail are African-American or black. So I do think we have a prison system, a private prison industry in America that's a huge business.
Starting point is 01:00:15 It goes along with a lot of the military industrial complex, the pharmaceutical industrial complex. Once again, it's the American people being sold out to corporations to make money. This guy is a liberal. Kind of. And I wouldn't be against universal health care in some form, not necessarily the way they want it. But I'm saying at least less taxes. There should be a way where people are so afraid. Tim, I know a lot of people.
Starting point is 01:00:33 I'm in the bail bond business. We actually get people out of jail. So that's why prison reform is a big deal to me. But I know people that are afraid to call an ambulance and will take an Uber to the hospital because they can't afford an ambulance. So I'm not saying Canada's system is good. I don't know what system. I'm not that smart. Dude, I took a taxi to the hospital once.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Exactly. See? Right there. I called a cab. I had a kidney stone, and it hit me like all of a sudden out of nowhere, crippling pain. And I was like, quick, call Green Cab Uber. Think about that, Tim.
Starting point is 01:01:03 You should have been able to call an ambulance. I agree completely. And I'm like, dude, $50 you should have been able to call an ambulance i agree completely so and uh i'm like dude 50 bucks in an uber or 500 an ambulance it's more than 500 right yeah i don't like um chronic uh health care universal health care for chronic stuff like someone eats too much you know it's gonna suck but i just feel like it's a better alternative a kid breaks his arm instead of some mom being like, how am I going to pay for this? Emergency health care. Emergency universal health care. But chronic where it's like they don't stop eating poison and then they get sick.
Starting point is 01:01:31 It's like, dude, you did that to yourself. I'm not here for you. But I got to say this point. Why is diabetes medicine $170 in America, but in Mexico it's $5? Why is dental care the same thing? Why is it that all of my ANCAP friends are like, oh, I got to get my teeth fixed. I'll be flying to Mexico City or something. Costa Rica.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Costa Rica, especially. They argue that it's cosmetic, not medical. Right. It's nonsense. And here's the crazy thing, too. In Mexico and in Costa Rica, they do this thing where after they do the work on your teeth, they take your own blood and put it over the the damaged part of your mouth from the surgery and it heals way faster yeah your own blood because it it heals you right they don't do that here as far as i know i was talking to somebody and i looked it up and i was like if
Starting point is 01:02:14 you go to costa rica it's like a tenth of the price with better treatment i'm like that doesn't make sense tim what doesn't make sense is that we prescribe antidepressants to people that are suicidal. That makes you more suicidal. I know. It's the first freaking side effect in the commercial. You'll see somebody dancing in a field. Oh, it may cause suicidal idolization or idealization. It's like, what? You're giving that to people that are suicidal?
Starting point is 01:02:38 I mean, isn't that counterintuitive? Yeah. This is what bothers me about the war machine. Side effects for teens especially. This is why I brought up the war machine. Oh, the younger, the better. They want to get you on it. The sooner you get on the antidepressants, the better it will heal you.
Starting point is 01:02:48 But as soon as they came out, mental health issues skyrocketed. What are the chances? I can accept that there is a war machine that the United States is in control of. But what happens when corporations try to take control of it and poison and subdue the population through other kinds of means, nonviolent means like psychedelic psychoactives. That's not cool. I don't want to lose control of the war machine by going after our own people, false flags, pharmaceutical induction. That I'm not comfortable with.
Starting point is 01:03:17 I'm down to hold on to the military and make sure that we have a stable planet where the hungry people aren't rioting and destroying everyone else to steal their food. But man, the pharmaceutical industry pisses me off. Of course. But I do want to say my favorite thing, McDonald's french fries. So I'm thankful for the genetically modified. Good. Golden corn.
Starting point is 01:03:37 McDonald's. I don't understand how people eat McDonald's. I don't get it. It's gross, but it's delicious. No, no, no. I get Burger King. I like BK. Have you had a sausage McGriddle? Yes. I think it get it. Oh, it's gross, but it's delicious. No, no, no. I get Burger King. I like BK. Haven't you had a sausage McGriddle?
Starting point is 01:03:46 Yes, I think it's terrible. There is not a single item at McDonald's I think tastes good. Tim, they inject the pancake with syrup. All right, which I love that method. Listen, Burger King I find delicious, but disgusting. Wendy's I find delicious and not that bad. Pretty good. Chick-fil-A, as Lydia pointed out the other day, actually probably the best. Oh, Chick-fil-A as Lydia pointed out the other day actually probably the best
Starting point is 01:04:05 Chick-fil-A is good it's like premium stuff but it's not gay enough so they can't go there well now it is now they've like they're gay the chickens are gay
Starting point is 01:04:12 they're like Postmates they started supporting all these organizations I'm pretty sure but you talk about Postmates and I want to thank Postmates because they have a bottom friendly menu
Starting point is 01:04:21 and that's so good we love the bottom friendly menu that's that thank you Postmates you don't want to poop all over the place. No. No, no, but McDonald's to me,
Starting point is 01:04:30 it is, it's all, tastes like plastic and chemicals. I just, I don't know. Exactly. And you know,
Starting point is 01:04:35 it's created in a lab to do that. That's why it has a mechanism in your taste buds. You're like, oh, this is addicting. And the more you eat McDonald's, the more you crave McDonald's.
Starting point is 01:04:42 You know what the worst thing is? The mayonnaise at McDonald's is like flavorless slime flavorless burger king is good you see those chicken nuggets that pink slime oh it's delicious when it hits your lips because the chemical reaction in your brain it's like you know almost like crack cocaine it causes you know euphoric sensation to some people you know what i had today i had tuna it's funny so uh you're very the trim though, Tim. I didn't realize. You're in good shape.
Starting point is 01:05:07 I lost a lot of weight since November of last year. I stopped eating sugar, grains, cut out the wheat. The wheat apparently is like the worst part. It's inflammatory, I guess. I'm not a nutritionist.
Starting point is 01:05:16 I don't know a lot. You look good. All I know is I was like, I don't want to eat the bread or the rice or the fried anymore. So I started eating a lot of chicken wings. That's like 70% of my diet right now.
Starting point is 01:05:25 In an air fryer or what? No, just regular chicken wings. But do you bake them? Because you said no fried. I just go to the restaurant and say, give me chicken wings. I love it. I like Old Bay wings. So there's no extra sauce or anything on them.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Old Bay rocks. Yeah, Old Bay. It's delicious. No, no, no. Of course. And then for breakfast, I've been doing like we have our farm fresh eggs. Like the chickens poop them out. I just eat that with like, we have our farm fresh eggs. Like, the chickens poop them out. I just eat that with, like, some
Starting point is 01:05:45 local cheese or something. People have been talking about how the U.S. in particular has a very deep, like, food quality problem compared to the EU because we don't have strict enough regulations
Starting point is 01:06:01 from the FDA and our regulatory agencies. I think it's the way around yeah you think the eu is too strict no we're too strict yeah we are yeah so uh so like our eggs are like what are they like stripped bleached and like our milk is so processed as well yeah raw milk is illegal in some days come on raw milk is illegal that? You know what else is illegal? Wine berries. That's right. Is that true?
Starting point is 01:06:29 Sorry, I took a bunch of illegal berries. Please don't arrest me. No, they're illegal in New York and Connecticut. What if you ate one here and went back to New York and they're like, it's in your system, isn't it? Oh, my gosh. We're testing you for wine berries. Get down. So, yeah, wine raspberries are everywhere. They're invasive.
Starting point is 01:06:41 They're thick brambles and they grow like crazy. And they're delicious, by the way. People love it. But in New York and Connecticut, they're illegal to possess or sell or trade or whatever. Yeah, but fentanyl is not. That's decriminalized. So yeah, it's the wine berries. Well, that's the funny thing.
Starting point is 01:06:54 I'd be willing to bet if you were in New York and you brutally beat someone, they'd let you out of jail. But if you're caught with wine berries, they'd be like, ooh, serious violation. Yeah, I mean that just shows you the hypocrisy of the rules in New York and a big district. Like we said, AOC, who's the queen of New York. People are literally defending their bodegas and going to jail. There's a point that I made the other day. So we ordered this – you can order these food things. One of the things that we promote on the podcast version of the show is the Moink Box, and it's like farm-fresh meats delivered right to your door. And so we got one of those, but with seafood.
Starting point is 01:07:22 It's like scallops, prawns, fish. And I'm eating this wild, white Alaskan salmon that is so delicious. And that's all it is. You know, it's like lemon pepper on it with some like avocado and sauce. Tim, do you use an air fryer? I hope you're using an air fryer. Do you have an air fryer in this house? Yeah, but I'm not going to air fry salmon.
Starting point is 01:07:38 Actually, they say it's good in there. I don't eat salmon. No, I swear. They say you can air fry. It's delicious. What I said was, this is an expensive thing to order, like to order this wild-caught salmon to your door. And then I'm like, it's funny. If you're like well off in America, you're eating food quality up here.
Starting point is 01:07:53 If you're middle to lower class, you're eating food quality way down here. If you live in South America and Africa, you're eating food quality way up here. It's crazy that the poorest people in the world, not everywhere, some of them are eating mud, but there are areas where people have mud huts, but they walk out, catch a fish, and are eating fresh caught salmon. And that is better quality food than the mac and cheese McDonald's stuff that people are eating in this country. And Americans get sick when they go to countries like that because they're not used to eating real food. Yeah, but the biggest point that you made in that whole thing is that the middle class
Starting point is 01:08:25 is basically getting destabilized. There is, you know, the middle class is disappearing here in America and that's what built this country or I think that's the most important class in this country. And now they're making it where it's just elites and the super poor. And so if you don't realize, you can see the forecasting and they're saying, oh, food shortages, you know, energy shortages. All that does is destabilize the middle class with this massive inflation where people cannot take their kids on a vacation.
Starting point is 01:08:46 They can't afford to feed them in a public restaurant. I think it's a culling. I'm not saying it's an intentional culling, but there is a culling that is happening to a degree. With food shortages, with the stress on the supply chain, what we're going to see is the poorest people in the world are going to be left destitute and desperate, and the elites, the upper class, the people, they don't care. And you can see this in the voting patterns. The Democratic Party has become the party
Starting point is 01:09:09 that has become more white and more upper class. The Republican Party has become more working class, more blue collar, and more diverse. Democrats don't care about talking about inflation. They don't care about pumping money to the economy. What they care about is January 6th because they're all, you know, they're in houses that are on the hills and the water is rising and the people voting for Donald Trump and the people on the ground are watching the water rise around them. They're freaking out. The Democrats don't care. Those people don't vote for us. I'm in an affluent neighborhood in Dallas and that's what they're called limousine liberals. I mean, they're not worried about the massive inflation. So if you don't think that
Starting point is 01:09:45 the social justice lifestyle is basically people on the left that aren't even affected by it, you're wrong. So you're 100% right when you talk about that. That's why I brought up the war machine earlier, because I feel like, I think that we are, and I'll speak for all of us here, from a severely affluent
Starting point is 01:10:01 environment where I've never suffered starvation ever in my life, never experienced it. Well, I'm not from that. I've never suffered starvation ever in my life. Never experienced it. Well, I'm not from that. I've been hungry. Well, at this stage of your life, you are. At this stage of my life, I am not homeless or hungry. Were you ever technically starving? I mean, you may have been hungry.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Yes, I was. Starving, starvation is when your body's like wasting away kind of thing. And I was. So that's pretty brutal. And my cheeks were sunken in. I had black rings under my eyes. And I was eating oatmeal cream pies once a day. Well, you're lucky to have access to oatmeal cream pies.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Some people eat mud, like you said earlier. Right. And are willing to kill for food. Kill. Literally kill and steal. I was, like, emaciated. And I weighed, like, 139 pounds or whatever. And then I slowly clawed my way out of that.
Starting point is 01:10:43 It's brutal. I lived in New York. I was living in my car. I had food stamps, thank God, or I would have. I was washing my hands with rainwater because I didn't have that. But nothing like the poverty of desperation that will drive people to kill for food and access to water. So that's why there's a war machine. I mean, that's part of why there's a war machine is to conquer rivers and food cropland.
Starting point is 01:11:07 You keep saying war machine, and you said that it's something that's existed throughout all of human history. But it sounds like something unique to the modern age and modern warfare. No, no. It's just it gets crazier and crazier. So, like, in the early days, you'd have a tribe of 30 people, and they'd be like, no. It's just, it gets crazier and crazier. So like in the early days, you'd have a tribe of 30 people and they'd be like, we're running out of food.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Well, I don't want to die. So they all get their weapons and say, then we got to kill them and take what they have. And so you'd have warring factions because there were scarce resources. Europe was crazy with it. More population than they needed food.
Starting point is 01:11:42 And then people were like, it ain't going to be me. So they'd start fighting and they try and take land and then take resources. That's not an apparatus that controls the allocation of resources throughout the entire globe that we have now. Is that what Ian was referring to? The war machine is definitely globalized relative to what it used to be.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Rome was pretty powerful in its day. I think Atlantis before that had global domination status. If Atlantis were real, which it very well might not have been. You can't say that on YouTube. And there's not a lot of documentation. I love the Flat Earth videos on YouTube. Yeah, they're pretty good.
Starting point is 01:12:15 It's funny that those Flat Earth videos, that gets demonized so much, but it's kind of a compelling argument. You know the Earth is kind of shaped like a sausage McGriddle? Okay, I have to say this. I think it's injected with syrup. We can't get up. It's kind of a compelling argument. You know the Earth is kind of shaped like a sausage McGriddle. Okay, I have to say this. I have to say this. It gets injected with syrup. We can't get on the flat Earth theory.
Starting point is 01:12:32 Sorry, I'm hungry. But I do think space is a little... Colectical? Well, I'm a moon landing expert because of Joe Rogan. That's right. Let me just tell you something. The idea that we could get to the Van Allen radiation belts in 1969 through 1972, we went through it twice both ways.
Starting point is 01:12:48 It's absolutely impossible. Yet that same technology that was able to do it then, we accidentally destroyed it. It's a painful process to build it back up again. Like just because they went through it doesn't mean they went through it right. You know what I mean? I don't know. I mean what? Neil and Buzz lived for a long time, I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:13:04 And maybe they got the best medical treatment. But I remember astronauts saying, it was crazy. I was seeing stars. It was like I was there. And it's like we know that when you see the sparkles, it's because you're being bombarded with high levels of radiation. Have you seen the press conference, Tim, after they came back from the moon? They looked like their dogs had died. I don't care what anybody says.
Starting point is 01:13:24 Joe Rogan actually argued two different times on Penn Teller's show that the moon landing was totally fake, made very compelling arguments, and then walked it back. And I love you, Joe. I'm just saying. You know, it is what it is. And you're going to be like, well, Alex, you're just some conspiracy theorist idiot. I'm just telling you. You look at the footage. I think there's a compelling argument as to why they would fake it.
Starting point is 01:13:44 Duh. But I just also think like strapping some dudes to a rocket isn't as complicated as a lot of people think it is. Well, I don't know about that. I mean in Trump just even said – he was trolling Elon Musk and said his rockets go nowhere. I don't know. I mean rocket technology, space travel, I'll just be honest with you. What is it pushing off of? In some ways you say, oh, well, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:14:05 I don't know. I think space is kind of fake. But what am I going to say? Yeah, I mean, what do I know? I'm an idiot. But yeah, what they tell us, I just don't think it's true. I get the feeling, I'll Snopes you that you're partially true or partially false, whatever you want to call it, that they did print fake documentation of people on the moon. Stanley Kubrick, for instance, did video in case they didn't have enough footage from
Starting point is 01:14:25 when they went. That's a fact. You know that for sure. Oh, yeah. Well, I think the theory is that it's all faked because Kubrick's footage proves it. But I think that what they did both, they went there just in case they didn't have enough propaganda to convince people and make them excited that they shot more in a studio, that they were going to interlace.
Starting point is 01:14:42 And some of it may or may not be interlaced. I don't know. But I don't see evidence that we didn't. Most of everything in society has told me that we have and that we still do go into space. Well, just Google the fake Michael Collins picture that they used a picture with their training and they admitted that it was false. Well, who did?
Starting point is 01:14:58 I don't think it's confirmed in any way that Kubrick directed anything about the moon. No, but he did a movie exactly before it. 2001 A Space Odyssey. And they say in The Shining that he left clues, like the little kids wearing an Apollo 11 shirt. I know. Hey, Tim, I'm a conspiracy theorist. I'm a tinfoil hat wearer.
Starting point is 01:15:14 So, I mean, I'm just saying. What about Atlantis? Oh, I don't know. But, Tim, I think you said the best point like the government did have an incentive to lie. And I'll be honest. When it comes to the government, I don't trust them at all. I don't trust them on anything. So it's hard for me to be like, oh, yeah, let me just take your word for it.
Starting point is 01:15:32 I'll tell you. Take a look at the space feats accomplishments of the Soviet Union in the United States. They were crushing us. The Soviet Union was crushing us on the one thing we defeated them on was getting to the moon first, which is a reason why they would have lied about it to be like, hey, we got there first. So but they say that Russia would have exposed us for it. But I don't know, because, you know, all these same people or at least accused us of it. Yeah. But, you know, at the end of the day, it's like if you don't think that we're kind of in cahoots with everybody, it's like, you know, they want to let me tell you something.
Starting point is 01:16:02 Vladimir Putin, the ruble is the strongest it's ever been. So if you don't think that this war is benefiting russia you know you know i know we've been to the moon because we came from the moon because the moon is the arc and the reason the russians didn't expose us because it's because the u.s and the russians are actually both working underneath the moon people who control i'm kidding space force yeah i know yeah i know we need it well who is diane feinstein i think just said that space forces are most important need to pull that up. She just said it. So these people that are supposedly socialists, they want to spend all their money in space.
Starting point is 01:16:30 I'm just saying I think that it spends a lot of money going and exploring these planets that we could spend here. It's similar to the war in Ukraine. We need to help out our citizens. The motivation for space exploration is more of a morbid curiosity now compared to an optimism in the past i i think it's great the money spent on space travel is spent here the people who get the money for space travel get that money buy things here and expand the economy and the technology developed from space travel has widely improved the velcro what all over the world. What space technology has improved? Plastics. You don't think they would have invented plastics without space?
Starting point is 01:17:13 Either way, there are programs, but also we're looking at mining asteroids, which is… Oh, sure. We're going to get diamonds from asteroids. Come on. Titanium. Did you see that they just found enough diamonds or gold, I think, in Africa, trillions of dollars worth of gold in Africa? Yes. Where was that?
Starting point is 01:17:28 Congo or something? Yeah. So they say these precious materials, oh, they're so precious, we don't have any. Yet, like I said earlier, we have enough oil and gas reserves in Texas to support the whole world. But listen, listen. If we can get to the moon with a mining operation, we can access the lost ancient technology of the Ark. It's a movie that just came out.
Starting point is 01:17:44 Of course, of course. I'm just saying, you know, the government, I trust them with every decision that they make. And you saw Bill Clinton was recently on James Corden's show and said like Area 51 was not aliens or whatever. It's kind of like this. There's a guy, Wernher von Braun, who was actually brought over in a thing called Operation Paperclip.
Starting point is 01:18:00 And Wernher von Braun, he designed the rockets that actually killed a lot of people in World War II. And we brought them over and we gave them immunity and let them create the NASA program. And you know what he said? One of his best friends at Walt Disney. About the rockets in World War II. They performed wonderfully. They just landed on the wrong planet.
Starting point is 01:18:17 Well, exactly. But my point being is he even said to get to the moon, you need rockets about twice the size of the Empire State Building. And Warner Von Braun said that – and there's multiple – Yeah, but like that's a really long time ago you know what i mean so they you tell me let me just compare a 1969 lincoln to a 2022 lincoln which is uh you know has more technology the modern one what do you yeah so do you think technology goes backwards how did our space technology i'm saying our technology in 1969 how does it go backwards we cannot go to the moon today and nasa admits it we cannot travel 237 go backwards? We cannot go to the moon today. NASA admits it.
Starting point is 01:18:46 We cannot travel 237,000 miles to the moon. What are you talking about? We cannot have manned space flight through the Van Allen. Google this. Google cannot go through Van Allen radiation belt right now. It'll come up. And NASA will say, Google, cannot go through Van Allen radiation belt. It should come up right on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:19:02 And it's like a person saying, oh, we're trying to develop technology to go to the moon, but we can't do it now. So we don't have the technology now, Tim, to send human through the Van Allen radiation belt. Yet we were able to do it in 1969. So it's the only technology. Where did NASA say that? Well, go to videos. Go to videos. Click videos.
Starting point is 01:19:22 And you'll see it's probably, you know, obviously it gets all. It's like a woman talking about it. And she says, we cannot go through the Van Allen radiation belts now. Type in NASA to put NASA in the search. But my point being is, if this video exists, somebody will be able to find it. Yeah, but are you talking about like a single individual or there's like. We cannot go to the moon, Tim. That's a fact.
Starting point is 01:19:42 NASA admits that. I think you're wrong. There's multiple. Oh, Tim, I'm not. Listen, I'm telling you, there's multiple videos saying, why aren't the – we cannot go to the moon. I'm telling you, that's an official story from NASA. But is that like you can't eat raw milk? No. That kind of thing where they decided it's too dangerous for you, so now you can't do it?
Starting point is 01:19:58 Here, I'll find the video. Because can't and shouldn't are two different things. I'm telling you, NASA today cannot go to the moon. Yet in 1969 through 1972, a technology that we accidentally destroyed. Pull up a picture of the lunar lander right now. If you want to believe me, just type in picture of the lunar lander. Well, let's start. We'll start
Starting point is 01:20:14 here, and then we'll keep moving forward. I'm trying to find out where NASA said we cannot get to the Van Allen. I found a Forbes article saying we actually can from seven years ago. Yeah, but I've got to find it. I should have had this pulled up. It's just there's so many videos.
Starting point is 01:20:29 Now my service is terrible, but I'm telling you, Tim, we've got to find the video where it says it's very clear they say we cannot go through the event. Go to YouTube right now. Go to YouTube. Well, let me read this real quick. So this is them saying, what is it?
Starting point is 01:20:45 There were 0.38 rad. The radiation does have getting 2 CT, blah, blah, blah. The atmosphere can be a danger, but they made it through it. The Apollo trips, we wanted to send the astronauts through a sparse region of the belts and try to get through them quickly. So, yeah, I don't know. Tim, the farthest we can go, according to them, is the International Space Station,
Starting point is 01:21:08 which is roughly about 200... But who's them? Who's them? NASA is roughly about 200 miles from the surface of Earth. We cannot go past low... Oh, type in! Type in! Cannot go past low Earth orbit Barack Obama. Type that in right now. Low Earth orbit Barack...
Starting point is 01:21:21 I'm not trying to be bossy. You just said you didn't believe the government. But this... Well, of course, but now go to the video. Now click videos. Click videos. It ought to be the first one that aggregates to the top. He says, for the United States, the leading space-faring nation for nearly half a century
Starting point is 01:21:34 to be without carriage to low Earth orbit and with no human exploration capability to go beyond Earth orbit. No capability to go beyond low Earth orbit. The moon is 237,000 miles according to them. That's past low Earth orbit. You're reading it wrong. No, type in Barack Obama. I've got the quote right here, literally.
Starting point is 01:21:52 It's right here in a quote. He says, and with no human exploration capability to go beyond Earth orbit for an indeterminate time into the future, destines our nation to become one of second or even third-rate stature. He's not saying
Starting point is 01:22:06 we've never had the capabilities and we currently don't. Please type in video. Just listen to what Barack Obama has to say because you're going to get all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:22:12 And that's not it. The third one down. The third one down. Third one down. Go down. Third one. This one. Yes.
Starting point is 01:22:17 You got it. You got it. This video right here? Yes. So let me start by being extremely clear. Clear. I am 100% committed to the mission of NASA and its future.
Starting point is 01:22:31 Because... This is a minute-long video, but there's a shorter one where he says it, but we can watch it. You might want to play it on 1.5 speed. Because broadening our capabilities in space will continue to serve our society in ways that we can scarcely imagine. Because exploration will once more inspire wonder in a new generation, sparking passions and launching careers. And because ultimately if we fail to press forward in the pursuit of discovery, we are ceding our future and we are ceding that essential element of the American character. I know there have been a number of questions raised about my administration's plan for space exploration, especially in this part of Florida where so many rely on NASA as a source of income as well as a source of pride and community.
Starting point is 01:23:04 We start by increasing NASA's budget by $6 billion over the next five years. By buying the services of space transportation rather than the vehicles themselves, we can continue to ensure rigorous safety standards are met, but we will also accelerate the pace of innovations as companies, from young startups to established leaders, compete to design and build and launch new means of carrying people and materials out of our atmosphere yes pursuing this new strategy will require that we revise the old strategy in part this is because the old strategy including the constellation program was not fulfilling its
Starting point is 01:23:39 promise in many ways that's not just my assessment okay to edit it out you got to go to the you got to click back go to youtube and you're going to see a short version. Type in Barack Obama, low Earth orbit. You've got to go to YouTube. Barack Obama. Low Earth orbit. And there'll be like a 10-second clip of him saying it that we cannot go through. That's him speaking.
Starting point is 01:23:57 We've got to go down. You've got to see. It's that speech there. He says he cannot go through low Earth orbit. I promise you, dude. I mean, it's just kind of annoying. I mean, I read the quote where he said. But you have to hear him say because he doesn't say that quote. He does not say that.
Starting point is 01:24:11 He says it says it much different. He says we do not have the ability to go. But it can't even reach low Earth orbit. I mean, we have transcript right here, right? I'm just saying, I mean, you know, you call me a conspiracy theorist, but this is Barack Obama saying. Few people. You know, the same people that type this transcript are the ones that said that Joe Biden didn't say – Sure.
Starting point is 01:24:28 He says, sure, it's comfortable, but it can't even reach low Earth orbit, and that obviously is in striking contrast to the Falcon 9 rocket we just saw on the launch pad, which will be tested for the very first time. I mean here's the issue. Like anything they don't want shared, we're not going to be able to just Google search. You know what I mean? Well, it's – but on, there's a lot of conspiracy. Go to YouTube and then type in upload date.
Starting point is 01:24:49 Type in Barack Obama, low Earth orbit, and then type in upload date. And then it ought to be one of the first ones. Type in Barack Obama, low Earth orbit. There it is. Recent search suggestion. It'd be a really short one. And did you do it by upload date? Search by upload date?
Starting point is 01:25:04 Where is that? To where is that to the right to the right to the right upload date okay and we want to go from reverse uh yeah well you want to go downwards that's sure i think is that maybe that nine second one up there obama says we can't go nine second one this one does that say what does that say next day this is it early in the next decade a set of crude flights will test and prove the systems required for exploration beyond low Earth orbit. In the next decade. But I don't think you understand what that means. And second of all, this is a nine-second out-of-context clip.
Starting point is 01:25:35 Well, you can watch the whole context. I'm just saying he admits today with the technology. You can fact-check me all you want. Sure, sure, sure. He says today that we cannot go through low Earth orbit. We cannot take manned flight. Barack Obama said it it right the idea but it doesn't exist it means we don't we don't we don't have it we don't fund it we don't have it yet we did have it 1969 through 1972 so you're telling me technology goes backwards sam you actually believe that like there there was
Starting point is 01:25:58 a lot for a long for a long time for a long period they wondered how the romans did concrete underwater right for for a long period we couldn't build skyscraper. You're comparing spaceflight with concrete, Tim. Okay. How do they build the pyramids? Well, I'm just saying we can't rebuild the pyramids, right? We can and we know how because I've read about the construction of the pyramids. Oh, you got to be kidding.
Starting point is 01:26:18 These Freemasons, I'm just saying some of the designs. So now you're saying it does go backwards. Well, exactly. My point being though, not space. It's really simple. We had a reason to go to the moon when we were in the Cold War. Afterwards, we abandoned the projects and abandoned the rockets, and they fell into disrepair, and no one cares anymore. Now, we have no real reason to build and expand in that direction, or we don't have companies that want to do it, nor do we have the government wanting to do it.
Starting point is 01:26:41 And in 2010, Barack Obama was saying, we need to start building the machines to do this. But we don't have the machines today. You admit that, right? I don't know. Based on what he said. 12 years ago, we did not have machines capable of doing it. That doesn't mean the technology doesn't exist. But we did in 1969.
Starting point is 01:26:56 It means they did not build them. And Barack Obama is literally saying in these videos, we're going to put $6 billion into NASA to build these, to do these things. And we can't go today. They keep saying we're going to go to the moon. And let me tell you something. You know this as a successful businessman. It would be the biggest marketing tool in the world if they were able to go to the moon. Yet we can't.
Starting point is 01:27:13 So I mean – But I don't understand why you're saying we can't. Like Elon Musk is currently building Starship to go to Mars. Okay. Google if Elon Musk says we can go to the moon. We can't. Elon Musk is saying we can go to Mars but we can't go to the moon. Elon Musk tweeted –
Starting point is 01:27:23 We cannot send manned spacecraft. They can say they can send a rover. Elon Musk said on Twitter like a week ago, we will be on Mars. You will see men on Mars in our lifetime. He also wants to put a computer chip in your brain to be able to park your Tesla. That's not a question. That's a morality question, but not a question of the possibility of the spaceships. Well, you guys can believe the moon landing all you want, but it's so fake.
Starting point is 01:27:43 And the government. It's so fake. For the record, if Barack Obama said, we do not have a can believe the moon landing all you want, but it's so fake. And the government. It's so fake. For the record, if Barack Obama said, we do not have a base on the moon, I would immediately think, we probably have a base on the moon. There was a skit about that. Who did that? As the whitest kids you know. Have you seen that one? No.
Starting point is 01:27:57 He's like, there are bears on the moon. And they're like, did you just admit there are bears? That was a great sketch. And then someone goes, are we invading Iran? And he goes, you got me. You got me. And then, you know. Okay, last thing, because then we'll get off the moon
Starting point is 01:28:12 because people are going to get so mad at me. Just type in a picture of the lunar lander, please. Lunar lander, huh? Yeah, just type in a picture of it because I want you to show you this great technology. Now, type in images. Now, I want you to look at that thing and you tell me that.
Starting point is 01:28:26 So you know the idea of the lunar lander is that they were able to go. What happened was we were able to send a craft to the moon, get in the moon's orbit. Then Michael Collins stayed in the craft. And then that thing was able to escape from the spacecraft and it was able to land on the moon. Then Buzz and Neil were able to take a car out of there and drive it around able to land on the moon. Then Buzz and Neil were able to take a car out of there and drive it around and play golf on the moon. Tim, this is the official story. They actually snuck a golf club.
Starting point is 01:28:51 Google snuck a golf club on the moon. So you're telling me NASA with technology, you're able to just, oh, bring your own bag. Yet on an airplane, if your bag weighs over 40 pounds, you can't even take it on. But these guys can take a golf. That analogy makes no sense. Well, I'm saying it's the joke,
Starting point is 01:29:04 is the fact that they can just bring stuff on the most intense mission we've ever been on. But look at this technology. You see that? You see how that's held together? Does that not look like 2022 technology? I don't understand what you think is wrong with it. I'm saying that is the fakest looking crap I've
Starting point is 01:29:20 ever seen in my life. That's garbage. Well, you've got to zoom in on it. Look at that. What is that? Tin foil? What is that? It literally is foil, yes. Okay, and that's paper. This is according to them. You can Google this.
Starting point is 01:29:31 When they were practicing for the mission, that if they dropped a tool that it was so thin, the tool would fall through. Through what? Through the whatever you want to call it, the walls of the lunar lander. You can Google this. Tools call it, the walls of the lunar lander. You can Google this. Tools would break through the wall of the lunar lander.
Starting point is 01:29:49 Look at that. That is tape, Tim. That's space tape, bud. It is. Do you know they put duct tape on airplanes? Okay. You're comparing the moon to airplanes. When I worked at O'Hare, passengers would freak out all the time watching mechanics put duct tape.
Starting point is 01:30:05 And they would be like, oh, oh, oh. Okay, so why can't we recreate that then if it's just tape? Who says we can't recreate it? Because we can't go to the moon today. Why can't,
Starting point is 01:30:14 who says that? Barack Obama. Okay, here's, you're conflating the lack of funding and motivation with the lack of technology. Tim, if there's,
Starting point is 01:30:22 you don't think there's motivated to go to the moon, you're kidding me, bud. What's on the moon? Because it could be a marketing technique. The same reason... Oh yeah, let's spend $50 billion to market. When we were at war, I get it. Now...
Starting point is 01:30:33 They gave $80 billion to the Ukraine to fight a war. We can't get people to fund real journalism. But we can get all this money to go to Ukraine? Come on. Right. You can get money for a war. You can't get money for journalism. Why would you get money for a moon mission? Where did the car come out of that machine?
Starting point is 01:30:50 I'd have to research. I think you're wrong about everything you've already presented. No, I'm not. I'm right. You can't come here and be like, the car came out of that and have me just assume you're right. It did. Well, okay, type in the moon landing rover and it said, look at the car. Just look at that.
Starting point is 01:31:03 It's a jeep frame. Yeah, I've seen it. Yeah, a jeep frame. They were able to, in a machine, in that thing, they're able to pop out a jeep and drive around and play golf. You can make a lot of assumptions and I would argue there is a good reason why the U.S. would fake such a thing, but none of what you've presented is actually evidence that you're right. It's conjecture based on out of context quotes and it does nothing for me to believe you. Now, you might're right. It's conjecture based on out-of-context quotes, and it does nothing for me to believe you.
Starting point is 01:31:27 You don't have to believe me. I'm just saying you can just believe the government. I mean, you know, that's... You don't have to believe either, though. I'm just saying, the technology in 1969... I'll tell you one of the weakest points. Think about their batteries. I'll tell you one of the weakest issues.
Starting point is 01:31:43 The foil on the lander right here. I actually know a little about and I understand the concept of using lightweight reflective foil. Mylar, for instance. You seem to not understand that. So when you say that, it's a red flag for me being like, well, if you don't understand that, I would assume the likelihood of the rest of your arguments are incorrect. Well, listen. I'm not saying that you can't say that. You're allowed to have an opinion. But I'm just saying if you actually do the research, you actually look into it like your buddy Joe Rogan did for a long time, you can pretty much find all the holes in the story of the moon mission.
Starting point is 01:32:13 It's just laughable. And I know we're kind of going on a tangent. No, for sure. I tried looking up – and granted, there's the issue of Google suppresses things. So it's not easy to be like, I'm going to Google it and we can prove that it's a real thing. But all I can say is this. I don't know about the things you're saying. Nothing that I've pulled up
Starting point is 01:32:33 has actually confirmed what you've been saying. Okay, type in this. And more importantly, I want to make the point. When I understand the concept of mylar or lightweight reflective foil and you don't, it's a red flag for me.
Starting point is 01:32:43 It's not even about that because the foil I said was so thin that a tool could fall through you can well that's that's that's a fact but i've actually gone to labs for jet propulsion and like saw them working on these things i actually have a video of a rocket test at at x-core in in the mojave desert and i watched them fly a rocket plane so when i actually sit down with rocket engineers and machinists who are building these parts who explain these things to me and i know even the tiniest bit as like a layman who's like oh i heard about that and then you say something that's completely incorrect i say okay well what did i say incorrect that that's that that's foil that's space foil you you acted like the foil was
Starting point is 01:33:16 somehow proof that didn't make sense i'm just saying that does not look like very advanced technology to me that's what i'm saying because you'reing your mind, your view on like sci-fi movies. No, I'm looking and using common sense. That looks like it's held together by literal tape. And the issue is... I'm right that it's tape. You're wrong about foil, and you don't know anything else about this. Okay, well type in this. Just type in astronauts' hands
Starting point is 01:33:38 injured from the spacesuit. So multiple... Yes, well, I'm just saying... We're not going to get it done in half an hour. I know, okay. But this is the last thing I want to say. And this is a fact. Multiple astronauts, when they came back in the pictures, they had scars on their hands. So this technology that was so incredible, and on the moon, in the sunlight, it's 200 degrees. In the shade, it goes to instantly negative 200 degrees.
Starting point is 01:33:57 Now, you can talk about the space technology to get there all day long. We cannot even recreate the suits. And on top of that, back then, these suits, the most magical suits in the on earth with one battery that can go change 400 degrees in instant listen was not even able to get the thumb mechanism right for multiple hours because there's astronauts that admitted that they had thumb injuries when they came back the problem with conspiracy theories is that you choose to believe some narratives but not others i believe all the narratives it's fake that's what i'm saying so so if they can't get the glove right, then they can't get a battery technology that can make a suit change instantly 300 degrees.
Starting point is 01:34:28 The problem with conspiracy theories is that you've made a determination, and now you agree with the evidence that backs your determination. Well, that's with everything, right? No, no, no. I don't have that position. My position is, I don't know. Well, I do know that we didn't go to the movies. I know that you acted like the foil was an incorrect thing
Starting point is 01:34:44 and having actually... I didn't say it's incorrect. I said it looks're like – you acted like the foil was an incorrect thing and having actually – I didn't say it's incorrect. I said it looks like garbage. It looks like a space shite. And you're wrong, right? So that to me – I'm wrong. What do you mean I'm wrong?
Starting point is 01:34:52 You don't think – you think that that looks good to you. The foil specifically is a red flag in your argument because you don't understand it. Okay. Other than the foil, what is that? What is that material? I don't know. All I know is – What's the material next to that?
Starting point is 01:35:05 Thermal blanket compromised with 25 layers of Kapton tape, gold leaf. There's data about it we could read into. Right. So let me stress this point because I don't think you're getting it. I don't know anything about the lander. You don't either. I know a little bit. You looked at it and said, that does not look right.
Starting point is 01:35:22 I said, okay, actually, I've been to a jet propulsion laboratory in the Mojave where I watched them do tests, and they explained to me heat resistance, return, all that stuff. You're comparing apples and oranges, but okay. So you're misunderstanding. My point is when I've actually gone to a spaceport and looked at this stuff and have witnessed the tests of it and actually flights of the they didn't do the rocket test when they went in the rocket plane, they just flew it around and then you come out and say that looks wrong to me, I'm like okay well you're missing
Starting point is 01:35:54 key context here so I'm not going to take your narrative which is based on conjecture don't believe me, that's the first thing I want to say is I'm not a role model do not ever believe me I just think we should question the reality in which we live in. And there's a lot of unanswered questions with this. When you talk about the original
Starting point is 01:36:09 footage that they accidentally deleted, they recorded over all the telemetry data. Someone said you were wrong. The rover was not on the first mission. It was on 15, 16, and 17. Apollo 15, 16, and 17. So this actually, so you were wrong. And that's the problem I have. Yeah, but I said, where's the rover on that? You were wrong.
Starting point is 01:36:25 There wasn't a rover on that. Yeah, but look at the Lunar Lander with a rover. Look at that. Look how fake that looks. I'm just saying it doesn't pass the smell test, and you don't want to give it the smell test because you're red, white, and blue all day long. I wouldn't be surprised if NASA and the government opted to throw false information out there so that other people couldn't recreate their process. Just like with Area 51, they told people there were little green men in the stuff. So if someone went rogue and wanted to spill the beans, they're going to sound like a crazy
Starting point is 01:36:50 person. Well, I'm just saying, guys, you can believe the landing on the moon. I don't think you're wrong to cast doubt on it, but you are saying with certainty that we didn't do the moon landing. Well, I don't know a lot of stuff. Do you know it? In my heart, I know, and that's all that matters. Because you know what?
Starting point is 01:37:05 We get to choose a reality. In your heart, you believe. In my heart, I believe, and I believe that I'm 1,000% right. But we can debate the moon landing all day long. I do debate people on it. But I'm not even trying to debate you, Tim, because I like you, and I appreciate your opinion. Oh, I thought it was fun. I thought it was fun.
Starting point is 01:37:17 No, it is fun. And on a serious note, though, I'm just saying, you can watch a little documentary by Bart Sabrell, Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon. And when he went and confronted the astronauts, he asked them to swear on a Bible whether they went to the moon. None of them did. And so regardless, you can believe that we went to the moon and that we lost that technology, and it's a painful process to build it back up again. Don Pettit, a NASA astronaut, is the exact person that said it. And I believe less than 120 people have even been to space.
Starting point is 01:37:42 So the idea that they could fake it, you know, I think... So, here's a point. There was a period where we only built buildings up to eight floors because the heat accumulation at the highest floor was too intense and we had limited technology for venting it. We invented window air conditioners. And all
Starting point is 01:37:59 of a sudden, we could now expand with window air conditioning units as well as centralized units. Now we could actually sustain buildings all the way up because we could funnel the heat out the sides the funny thing is there are ancient cultures that would build structures that that would guide heat out of the building yeah it was not necessarily a lost technology but kind of was it was uh it was amazing i was watching this uh documentary but we lost the technology in 50 years tim this is in the thousands of, like the pyramids is my point. I just don't see it as being impractical that having no reason, no commercial purpose, the government stops funding it.
Starting point is 01:38:34 People stop funding it. And then they're like, where's the old documents in the construction? They did lose all the old documents and they lost the plans for building it. So they just lose that? It would be like saying, oh, we lost the Constitution. It's literally America's greatest technological achievement, and we just accidentally control to delete it. I wouldn't say accidentally control deleted it. I just think there's a possibility that without any support, we stop doing it.
Starting point is 01:38:59 Also, like if I had a brilliant weapon. Cognitive dissonance, but we'll just agree to disagree. I think it's your cognitive dissonance. You want so hard to believe it's not real, whereas I had a brilliant weapon. Cognitive dissonance. But, you know, we'll just agree to disagree. I think it's your cognitive dissonance. If I had an amazing weapon. You want so hard to believe it's not real, whereas I'm asserting nothing. No, no, no. That's not necessarily true.
Starting point is 01:39:11 I wish you actually went to the moon. I just hate that we didn't. That's my point. And see, so my position is there is limited evidence that we did and conjecture. You have an official narrative and you have a counter narrative. And I say, I don't know. There's a motivation to fake it. But there's also rocketry has been around for a while.
Starting point is 01:39:28 And we have ICBMs. They're very powerful. And we have tons of explanations as to how we can and have done it. You've not presented any hard evidence. I've presented a lot of evidence. But Wernher von Braun was a Nazi. Well, you haven't. There's no literal evidence. You have conjecture.
Starting point is 01:39:41 Okay, conjecture. Whatever. I've presented a lot of conjecture. You've asserted a belief based on what you've read, which is believing some narratives but not believing others with no basis. But you're comparing the technology of some jet
Starting point is 01:39:54 to what we were able to do in 1969 through 1990. Didn't you just say you went to Jet Propulsion Lab? Or what did you say you went for? These are rocket engines. This is rocket propulsion. Jet propulsion, X-Core Spaceport. X-Core was the company. I don excuse me, rocket engines. Right, this is rocket propulsion. Yeah. So jet propulsion, XCOR Spaceport, XCOR was the company,
Starting point is 01:40:08 I don't think they exist anymore. I watched them do a rocket test. I wonder why they went out of business. Because rocket planes are impractical. The idea of a rocket plane is Los Angeles to London in two hours by entering outer space and then dropping down.
Starting point is 01:40:22 You go straight up, then you go through space where you can travel super fast, then you ran through the atmosphere by spiraling down, and it's prohibitively expensive. So it was invested in, and they ultimately said, no one's really going to want to spend the money to travel this way. It's not that hard to fly in a plane for 12 hours. So that's why that ended.
Starting point is 01:40:40 So when I go to a lab and I see these things, I say, oh, that's interesting. That lines up with other things I've seen in the past. Still, I'll entertain the possibility they did fake it I just I think it's less likely and I don't know well it's possible they did it and then they were like yeah by the way it's impossible to do so no one tries to do it
Starting point is 01:40:58 like they don't want other people to try and do it they want to disincentivize that they want to be the leaders so they're going to pretend like it's impossible well listen we can you like it's impossible. Well, listen, we can, you know, it's funny I get my... We'll read Super Chats, otherwise...
Starting point is 01:41:08 Yeah, no, no, but I agree, and it's funny because I finally get on TimCast and then we have to go full tinfoil hat, but I am Primetime99, the host of the Conspiracy Castle,
Starting point is 01:41:15 and you're welcome to sub to that. Conspiracy? Yeah, it's called the Conspiracy Castle, but what I'm saying is, and that was actually before you called it
Starting point is 01:41:21 Cast Castle, but that's neither here nor there. What I'm saying is that's neither here nor there. My point being saying is, that's neither here nor there. My point being is, do not believe me. Do your own research. It's out there. You can look into it. And I don't have my
Starting point is 01:41:32 computer here. If I had my computer, I could be, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. My internet service is not that great because you know, we are out in the sticks. But my point being is, Tim, I respect your opinion and I think that you're trying to hold my feet to the fire and I appreciate that. But at the same time, I only encourage people to do, the same time I only encourage people to do, excuse me, I always encourage people to do their
Starting point is 01:41:48 own research including you which you should listen to tonight. Joe Rogan on the Penn Teller show arguing about the moon landing because he's your bestie. Let's read some super chats. We got White Owl says, Tim, why are you so anti-big booty Latina? That's true, dude. You got to be more pro-big booty Latina.
Starting point is 01:42:04 The bigger the booty. And you know, on a serious note though, you know, actually the Latin community does have a diabetes problem. So if you're out there and you do have a big booty, go walk around a little bit. I do not want you to get diabetes because insulin here in America is extremely expensive. Fasting also can
Starting point is 01:42:20 be extremely valuable if you look into that as well. And it is his spiritual value as well. So Kyle Schmidt says she only got mad because he used Latina instead of Latinx. Yes. That's fair. Latinx. Classic mistake. That is fair.
Starting point is 01:42:33 All right. Let's grab some more superchats. Andrew Starr says if you act ridiculous, it will show how ridiculous the system is and will become in order to push its boot on your neck. Yes. You're kind of like the Joker. I am a little bit. From the movie. I am a little bit like the Joker.
Starting point is 01:42:49 I do with a smile on my face. Well, you know, I feel like I have nothing to lose. I lost the most important person in my life, my mother. So what I'm saying is I kind of do sometimes feel like the Joker. Like I got nothing to lose. I'm saying I'm fearless because when I walked into a room and watched my mom die, it kind of just showed me that I saw and went through the toughest thing that I'll ever go through. So I can compare any situation, literally any situation, I can compare it to that and think, well, this is a piece of cake. So confronting a politician or going in sort of some meeting and getting all the attention on me is nothing as bad as holding my mom's hand when she died.
Starting point is 01:43:22 So, yeah, I kind of am a little hardened by that. Wow. All right. Raymond Magaji says, Tim, come on, man. Let's be honest about the facts. Every vlog skit starring Ian, a.k.a. Langston Stewart Jr. III, he steals the show every time. That might be a good thing. Unless I'm a supporting character.
Starting point is 01:43:44 All right. Let's see. Curtis Terry says, Tim, getting introduced to you and Dan Bongino around the same time in 2016 literally saved my life. So thank you from the bottom of my heart. That being said, I stood up for my principles and against bullying and lost my job. I got kids. Quit pushing fake news receipts on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:44:02 Quit pushing fake news. What is that a reference to? Who knows? Receipts on Twitter. Quit pushing fake news. What is that a reference to? Who knows? Receipts on Twitter. Sorry to hear it, man, but tremendous respect for you standing up for what you believe in. There are risks. What was it? We read this.
Starting point is 01:44:15 I was reading this Plato quote. We talked about the one where it said the penalty for being indifferent to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. But there was another one I read where it said, like, maybe you guys know who this quote is from. It's like, sooner or later, you'll have to fight for what you're – sooner or later, there will be a fight for your principles and values. It can be you. It can be your children or it can be your grandchildren. Better for it to be you. Yeah, somebody said that.
Starting point is 01:44:40 They said, better that it be me than my children. That was a founding father. Yeah, yeah, something like that. Yeah, look it up. Rocketsaw says that it be me than my children. That was a founding father. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, look it up. Rocketsaw says, this is for Langston Stewart Jr. III. Dope is for dopes. Keep it up. Dope is for dopes.
Starting point is 01:44:52 You guys got to check out Cass Castle. If you're not in on the joke, you will be. As a super chatter said today, Ian is our favorite Nixon conservative. Oh, you. All right. What do we got here? Do you read all of them? Does it matter how much they pay for
Starting point is 01:45:11 or the ones that are more expensive you tend to gravitate to? I try not to just get the big ones. It's a mix, right? So you're a socialist supercharter? Yes. Because some people can't afford to give 100 bucks,
Starting point is 01:45:23 but they make good points. Some people will give a lot of money making really bad points intentionally hoping that the amount of money will make me read something that is like not good some people will try and promote stuff and use it as an advertisement and within reason we'll we'll read some of them you know for the most part i'm like going through and i'm like reading the ones and i really am i always try to find like the good questions and the good points not to like say that you know people shouldn't you know like i won't read it as you know but i read some that are inane and just we'll grab what we can but i but i usually i want like good questions right of course yeah so before i move on i just want to read this quote real quick because it's really good and i'm glad you brought it up this is from thomas pain it said i prefer
Starting point is 01:46:01 peace but if trouble must come let it come in my time so that my children can live in peace. The quote I mentioned was a different quote from someone else. Oh, interesting. Yeah. They said, there will be a fight. It will be fought either by you, your children, or their grandchildren. It is better that it's you or something like that. And we're in that fight.
Starting point is 01:46:18 It's called the culture war. Yeah, 100%. Kefka says, the taking down of the American flag is the act of tearing down the statue. Will of the people is for the cycle to continue. Interesting. And the American flag is kind of considered a hate symbol by the people on the left. Remember when those shoes got canceled
Starting point is 01:46:34 that had the original flag on them? Betsy Ross flag. Yeah, the Betsy Ross flag. They got what, for as a hate speech? It was offensive, so Nike apologized and pulled the shoe or something. My favorite shoe was the little Nas X shoe that had blood in it. That was my favorite.
Starting point is 01:46:47 I tried to wear them, but I can't wear them. You still got them? Whose blood was it? Baby's blood. No, I don't know. I'm just kidding. I don't know. How many did they make?
Starting point is 01:46:55 Well, it was actually a third-party thing. They took old backstock shoes and did it, so it ended up being kind of a... I thought it was supposed to be his own blood. Something like that. How much blood did he do? It was supposed to be one drop of blood. Into all of the his own blood. Something like that. How much blood did he get? It was supposed to be one drop of blood. Into all of the paint.
Starting point is 01:47:07 Yeah. Something like that. I mean, who knows? Come on. Fake news. All right. Ken Ballard says, how different would our world be
Starting point is 01:47:16 if Trump ran as a Democrat in 2016 and won? P.S. Ian did great in the recent Cast Castle video. They're loving you, Ian. They're loving you.
Starting point is 01:47:24 It was a big deal. You should join us someday. I know. I'm down. I know. Let's do it loving you, Ian. They're loving you. It was a big deal. You should join us someday. I know. I'm down. I know. Let's do it. Oh, yeah. We should definitely.
Starting point is 01:47:29 Where are you based out of? Dallas. Dallas. We got to get you on the vlog. Let's go. Primer 99. I want to freaking, I'm moving in. I'm sleeping up here tonight.
Starting point is 01:47:38 Let's do it. Dylan Elliott says, hey, Tim, what are your thoughts on the fact that a second civil war will take place in an age of nuclear weapons? What do you think of the possibility of a second civil war ending with portions of the U.S. witnessing the penultimate form of devastation? It would be tactical. It wouldn't be like ICBMs or anything like that. It's not just about nuclear weapons. It's about biological weapons too.
Starting point is 01:48:00 It's about a whole lot of things. It's about cyber warfare. I know. I hear you talk about the civil war a lot, but I think the only way that happens is if they do repeal the Second Amendment and take away our guns. What do you think would be the, in just in your opinion, what would be the-
Starting point is 01:48:11 You can't take away guns. I agree, but I'm saying, what do you think would be the straw that would break the camel's back that would make people go on the street and start shooting each other? It's not gonna be like that. It's gonna be,
Starting point is 01:48:22 what I think is the highest probability would be local militiamen blocking highway roads. Yeah. And it could start with like 10 people. And it could escalate into trucks with California plates are barred from entering Texas because let's say a woman in Texas gets pregnant. Her husband says they're married. And the husband's like, this is great. We're going to have our third child.
Starting point is 01:48:43 She says, I don't want a third child. And he says, well, honey, you're pregnant and we live in Texas and I want this child. And she says, okay. In the dead of night, she packs a bag, she flies to Colorado and she gets an abortion. Texas says she broke the law and she murdered the child of one of our residents. She kidnapped the child, killed it in another state where we recognize that as murder. The husband is freaked out and angry and distraught. And so you end up with a conflict. The feds refused to get involved. Then trucks from Colorado tried delivering goods and local militiamen are like, you are murderers who killed one of our citizens. Turn your truck around. Trade disruptions start. Then that's the
Starting point is 01:49:19 kind of thing that snowballs and you'll end up then with like a truck comes in and a couple, and then the guy in the truck gets out and says you're not law enforcement get out of here don't point that gun at me fighting breaks out someone dies then state law enforcement from texas says to colorado now your guys are shooting at our guys the feds refuse to get involved then texas says we're going to send people to extradite that woman who murdered a child we won't stand for this that's the kind of ideological escalation that results in interstate conflict then Then the feds finally say, okay, now local law enforcement and national guards are being rallied up. We've got to get involved. And then you get a left versus
Starting point is 01:49:49 right versus federal strange Civil War scenario. Possibility, not saying it will happen. But so you kind of break it down. It would almost be like Texas and Florida versus New York and California. Sponsored by Pfizer. So with the original, with the first Civil War, I think it was seven states.
Starting point is 01:50:05 I usually get the number wrong. Seceded before Abraham Lincoln was even president. And the other states joined after Abraham Lincoln invaded and started fighting against the southern Confederate, against the Confederacy to pull them back and to force them into the union. And so it's possible that what starts is, I'll put it this way. The reason Texas joined the Confederacy was because they had no choice. They, by, by geography, that's what was stated. You know, they were, they were relatively new to the union. They were offered up to be five states before they came and decided to be one big state.
Starting point is 01:50:36 And then when, when the civil war breaks out for trade reasons and association, they were like, well, we're here next to all of the Confederacy. We, we have no connection to the union at this point. So we, we just, it was, it well, we're here next to all of the Confederacy. We have no connection to the union at this point. So we just, it was practical. They could have gone either way. Some states could have. So the possibility is you might see with the abortion stuff, circumstances, and I think what could be a small catalyst is like a man and a woman are together. Maybe they're not married. And the woman gets pregnant. And the guy says, you have to keep it. And the woman says no and flees. That's a crime in Texas. Or maybe Oklahoma is a better example, facilitating or trafficking in abortion. Or I
Starting point is 01:51:14 think Missouri passed this law in March. And the guy who lives in the state is victimized. And his unborn child was killed. So he wants justice. The state petitions the federal government for intervention. The federal government refuses. The state goes in uproar. They start barring access to residents of other states, saying no, because not until that person is extradited and the feds want to intervene and there's a potential there.
Starting point is 01:51:36 I'd actually like to get your opinion on abortion, because even people that are pro-choice actually agree that there should be some sort of limit, maybe not in the third trimester. What do you think about the politicians trying to do it up to birth? Oh, we talk about it all the time. They're psychotic. Yeah, I mean, that's just satanic or demonic.
Starting point is 01:51:52 In the conservative world, they say, oh, everything's satanic and demonic. For me, not even the people, even the people that are pro-choice believe there should be a limit. So it's just very weird that our politicians want it up until birth even after. Democrats. All right, let's read some more cali de french says crazy kamala bailed out people who committed actual severe crimes but spent her entire career putting away people who committed misdemeanors if that that's right yeah three strikes and there's a guy you know that had two
Starting point is 01:52:18 felony convictions and then got a misdemeanor and it was the third strike and spent their life in prison wow raymond laura says do you think AOC is a decent person that's being influenced to push specific policies? And it has created a character we've seen. Since Alex confronted AOC with Latina and she never corrected him with Latinx, she just lashed out at her handlers.
Starting point is 01:52:38 I think AOC is like an NPC, right? I think she's just blindly bouncing between whatever you know what like whatever gets her power that's it that's why she gave you a peace sign so let's do a selfie and peace sign and then later came out saying I was gonna deck him it's like well you give him a peace sign and waved and then left well you know the reason why is all these politicians are so emboldened to their funding and so like I said there have people that make the decisions for them basically and she
Starting point is 01:53:04 knows you know whose side she's on. So she's bought and sold like toilet paper at Walmart in my opinion. All right. AbyssMom says, Tim, you have talked about being as big as a daily wire one day, and I sincerely hope that happens. Any plans for kid content? I just want kid stuff. My kids asked questions spawned from ads from June. We actually do.
Starting point is 01:53:24 We started with Chicken City and we have those Silly Chicken City cartoons. We definitely want to make content that is more kid-friendly and educational. We have a plan for local community building and we actually are working on a kids show right now. It's preliminary. We have merch planned and I think it'll be
Starting point is 01:53:40 a huge success and a lot of fun. That'll be an age range of five to nine or whatever. People work for us, It'll be a huge success and a lot of fun. And that'll be an age range of like five to nine or whatever, just like content. People work for us, our parents. They've talked about how they really just don't like the stuff that's being put out for kids these days and we need to make stuff. That's why The Daily Wire is doing it. That's why we want to do it.
Starting point is 01:53:59 And it's also a great market opportunity. Wholesome Family Brand for Kids is an excellent opportunity to expand the business. We want to take it and we want to make the world a better place. I often talk about how inspiring kids is the key to winning the future. So that's something we definitely have plans for. I can't say anything crazy like The Daily Wire committing $100 million to it. But I can say we're going to – we've got a show in the works that we're really excited for. It's going to be a whole lot of fun.
Starting point is 01:54:22 Yeah, it'll be great. It'll be great. Krang says, Alex Stein is a thick boy. Big politics on him. I am thick. I'm thicky thick. Primetime 99 is a plant-based pimp. So I basically eat spaghetti and cheese pizza for all my meals.
Starting point is 01:54:35 Vegetarian? Yeah, vegetarian and plant-based, dog. Plant-based. Grow your own. Plant-based diet. Yeah, but it's not very healthy because I have a limited option. So like I said, cheese pizza, not the same cheese pizza jeffrey epstein ate uh but yes uh cheese pizza is my main diet sterling wills in the third says please watch sword art online the metaverse scenario ish y'all
Starting point is 01:54:56 talking about i've heard about it you you've talked about i've seen i've seen it it it's uh it's actually very good and worth watching at least the first couple seasons i felt like it started to get a little repetitive personally after like the sixth or seventh episode. But incredible theme. Definitely worth checking out if you haven't seen it yet. Sword Art Online. Sam says, there's some data out of Sweden and the U.S. that suggests SSRIs may cause homicidal ideation in young men ages 14 to 24, between 1% and 3%, up to three months. Wow.
Starting point is 01:55:26 I remember I was going to say something about that, but I wasn't entirely sure. That it's not just about suicidal ideation. It's about homicidal. Like it makes people like nuts and want to, you know. A lot of these mass shootings, I think they call them public suicides. People refer to them as because a lot of times the shooter loses their life. And they want to take people out with them because they want to kill themselves. I wonder if these first-person shooter games...
Starting point is 01:55:47 You can't say that? No, no, no. I'm reading a super chat. Oh, okay. I don't know. What did you say? I just said some people want to kill themselves, but I don't know if that's illegal.
Starting point is 01:55:54 Oh, no, no. Illegal. Well, we don't want people to do anything. No, no, no. Obviously not, no. All right. All right. Samuel...
Starting point is 01:56:02 This is why I said, oh, man. Samuel Nitskyky says first super chat ever tim has clearly never had a double filet fish filet with extra tartar i'll quadruple the super chat if tim tries one on the next irl best show and a and during lent you know the the fish filet is one of the most popular sandwiches really in america yeah because people don't eat meat super and it's delicious i don't eat anymore but. The fish filet is the one thing I would say, okay, that is good. See? You found something.
Starting point is 01:56:28 That's true. Wow. We found something that Tim likes. Filet-o-fish. You'll eat that and not a sausage grotto. Seriously? The filet-o-fish is delicious. Yeah, and I think it's made of something called hokey, I think it is.
Starting point is 01:56:39 I think that is right. Hokey-hokey. You know, Tim's a smart man. That's the fish kind. Yeah, it's a bony, nasty fish. A garbage fish that nobody wants to eat. Oh, what a surprise. Did you look it up?
Starting point is 01:56:48 Is that what it's... The Hokey? Checking it out now. Is it? The Hokey fish inside your fish of filet. Boom! How did I know that? The Hokey fish.
Starting point is 01:56:54 I got a weird memory. Yeah. Why do you have those facts in your brain? I just read it all day, every day, nonstop for like a decade. It's insane. The Blue Hake, the Blue Grenadier, the New Zealand Whiptail or Whiptail Hawk. It's like a... It's like a... It's a H. The blue hake, the blue grenadier, the New Zealand whiptail or whiptail hawk hake. It's like a hokey. It's like a bony fish
Starting point is 01:57:08 that like if you were to catch on its own, it's not really enough. But when you catch a huge amount of them and you grind them up into a paste. With the bones? I think, yeah. Healthy. But it's a paste.
Starting point is 01:57:18 It's good for digestion. It really is. I mean, a lot of collagen in the fish bones. So it's good for you. The filet of fish is good. I got to hand it to you. We found something. We found something.
Starting point is 01:57:27 There's our common ground. Our treaty, as it were. We can go to McDonald's and I'll get the Filet-O-Fish. Yeah, I love the Filet-O-Fish. Yeah, a double Filet-O-Fish. It's got cheese on it, and the tartar sauce is good. Well, Tim, and I hope you don't get mad at me for saying this. Obviously, Tim is incredibly well-known, and he is a celebrity, obviously.
Starting point is 01:57:42 And Tim said one of the most terrible things I've ever heard is that Tim can not really go to a restaurant anymore that makes me oh yeah i just hate that i mean i'm just saying that is like honest to god that is just really sad because you know i think there's nothing bigger than a fat american culture is eating at a restaurant you know i mean that's like literally part of our culture and you're missing out it makes me sad people people i mean i got to eat yeah you gotta be careful. People don't understand. There's no cameras back there, and there's no way to prove if someone puts bleach in your food. You could get really, really sick. You wouldn't know why, and they're not going to run a test on it. People don't understand this.
Starting point is 01:58:15 You go to the hospital for stuff, and they often – they're not going to be like, is there bleach in the system? There's no reason – if there's no reason to suspect it, they won't actually test for it, and then they won't know, And then they'll be like, we'll give you fluids and try and get you better. And then even if the only place you ate was at one restaurant, you got sick. How do you even prove the person there was some lunatic who was actually trying to ruin your food or get you sick? Donald Trump, when he goes out, this is why he does fast food so often because it's pre-made. So no one tampers with it and he knows that. And so when I was reading about Kavanaugh eating at the morton's i was like that is that did security go into the kitchen and watch the food get made well morton's is a pretty classy restaurant doesn't matter i know i know i i'm not arguing on that you think like you think the person in the kitchen isn't going to be
Starting point is 01:58:57 sympathetic to the left or hate well it doesn't matter ian might like this one but this is a little secret for the kids out there and obviously drugs are the worst thing ever but. But the kitchen culture is the biggest, druggiest world there is. I'm just saying. Stony, stony. Exactly. I'm just saying the kitchen culture and I think Anthony Bourdain kind of exposed that. Diners are fine. You ever go to the diner where you watch them on the grill right there on the spot?
Starting point is 01:59:18 Yeah. I can go there and I can eat. Waffle house, yeah. But the problem is if I go to an area that's heavy blue and people recognize me and then I just say, I trust you with what I'm going to put my body right now, they could at the worst spit in it. Or I should say at the least, you know, if they're angry with me, they don't like me spitting it. And there's no way I'll know and I'll eat it. Or they can do something seriously bad like biologically tamper with it and there's no way to prove it.
Starting point is 01:59:40 And I've gotten sick eating out before. And it's like I've had people recognize me. I've had issues at restaurants with like, okay, I probably shouldn't eat here. There's places where you can see the ideological stuff on their walls. I've gotten emails from people being like, hey, watch out that people at this restaurant know who you are. And it's like, okay, we got to take that seriously now. It's like people, we've gotten swatted so many times. I've gotten death threats enough where you get to a point where you literally can't just go to a restaurant sit down and be like i'd like the wings please can't do it that's a harsh reality you got to do weird things like have someone order the wings for
Starting point is 02:00:11 you sit down and then i can walk in and sit down and eat it the price of fame folks it's not just it's not just about fame it's about joel the the the level of violence in this country right now and the fact that there are people who like a guy punched jack posobic in front of police and then they all lied about it so you know these are things people have to consider well let's consider this did amber heard poop in johnny depp's bed oh i guess she did it was the dog oh is that what she said it was a dog that was the dog we're gonna read a bit more because we we argued too much about the moon. I know. I feel like we got lost. See, I'm all about the vibrational energy, and I kind of brought it down.
Starting point is 02:00:48 No, it was fun. It was fun. It's like a swing shot. I just want to make sure we read some more Super Chats. Alexander Nelson says, my in-laws are ranchers in North Dakota, and the beef we bought from them recently is like nothing we've experienced from any grocery store. In the end, it's cheaper to buy in bulk as well. Check them out at Dakota Angus LLC. Not sure if they deliver,, it's cheaper to buy in bulk as well. Check them out
Starting point is 02:01:05 at Dakota Angus LLC. Not sure if they deliver, but it's worth the trip. We get a lot of farm fresh meat. Drive up to a local farm. You walk right up, pop open the freezer,
Starting point is 02:01:15 grab out a big chunk of fresh farm beef, pay for it, bring it back and eat it. Well, yeah, you can buy like half the cow. That's a big deal in Texas where you just buy the cow.
Starting point is 02:01:23 We have so many chickens right now. What do we have, like 30-something chickens? I love it. Yeah, and they're all screaming. Tons of eggs, big eggs too. Yeah, we get a crazy amount of eggs. It's so awesome. I'm going to eat some of those tomorrow.
Starting point is 02:01:35 The good news is for those that follow Chicken City, Sarah is nearly all recovered. Excellent. She got really sick. She went to the vet. They gave her fluids and antibiotics, and she made it. Yeah, she had some kind of chicken infection. I think I had the same thing, but it was just monkey pox. Monkey pox? Where'd you get that?
Starting point is 02:01:53 Yeah, I was just hanging out at Pride. It's not a big deal. I saw an article that was like, San Francisco at risk of monkey pox. I'm like, is it because of the poop in the streets? No. No, that's Pelosi like that. It's different. It's already been officially reported. It's being transmitted mostly among gay men. Different vector, yeah. No. No, that's Pelosi like that.
Starting point is 02:02:06 It's already been officially reported. It's being transmitted mostly among gay men. Different vector, yeah. Guys, I want to say this. I just want to thank you, Nancy Pelosi, because as you see her jugs, she's actually going to end the baby formula crisis with her own breasts. Selfless. They're so big.
Starting point is 02:02:21 A lot of milk. We have two superchats I want to read back to back. OMG Puppies says, is this guy trolling Tim or does he really believe this? And then Armchair Quarterback says, Alex's right space is a hoax. Pick your poison. Pick your poison, guys.
Starting point is 02:02:34 Either or. And like I said, I'm not a role model. Do not believe me. Do your own independent research. So, you know, I'm like Charles Barkley in the 80s. You know,
Starting point is 02:02:41 I ain't no role model, dog. Arthur Gonzalez says, the greatest evidence that the moon landing was not faked is Russia. It was the Cold War and space race. If Russia thought for one instant that America had faked it, they would have let the world know. Or they would have, I mean,
Starting point is 02:02:54 I'm surprised they didn't accuse it anyway. They should have just tried to say it. It might have started a war. I mean, there's a reason why it was a Cold War that we never had. All right, all right, all all right we'll uh grab some moisture i see ian's face because it's a touchy subject guys because you're talking about geopolitical conflict and we live in a world where we don't know we don't necessarily know
Starting point is 02:03:14 the truth there is declassified levels of information neil strong says i'm really trying to get others to join us and listen to you but man is uh it's a breath of fresh air when i listen to a podcast like tonight j JRE compromised, it seems. I don't think Joe Rogan's compromised. I think Joe Rogan is what Joe Rogan's always been. He's a discerning, regular guy who isn't a culture warrior. I think people need to understand, like,
Starting point is 02:03:35 we are culture warriors here. We are very concerned about culture. We want to influence it. We directly say that. We challenge it. We pay to expand upon it. And Joe Rogan's a comedian who wants to hang out with his friends and have interesting conversations who gets pulled into these
Starting point is 02:03:48 things because he just will tell the truth when it comes to certain news stories but you can't expect him to be a journalist and like dig up all of the facts and then challenge them you know the way we do well he used to be a little he used to be a little more combative but what do you think about him saying he didn't want to have trump on i mean i agree i don't believe you want to have trump on but do you think trump wanted to come didn't want to have Trump on? I mean, I agree. I don't believe you want to have Trump on. But do you think Trump wanted to come on? Yes, absolutely. And I think Joe basically admitted that Joe admitted that Trump would would do really, really well on his show and it would it would help him. Like Joe Biden on Rogan would hurt Biden tremendously.
Starting point is 02:04:22 Donald Trump on Rogan would help him tremendously. Joe said that. So for whatever reason on rogan would help him tremendously joe said that so for whatever reason joe things would help him you know yep all right let's see brandon hill says alex you are misreading the context in obama's speech it was post space shuttle era meaning not currently able not that we never did yeah not currently able so i'm saying the technology went backwards we were able to go in 1969 through 1972 and i just compare a simple you know comparison you say apples and oranges you look at a 1969 lincoln you compare it to a 2022 lincoln navigator the technology did not go
Starting point is 02:04:55 backwards in that sense what if we needed to um store data on a magnetic strip in a computer well we actually deleted all the telemetry data, and they said that we needed it for further missions. You know what I mean? Let's say right now there's a circumstance in which we're like, you know, we want to use tape drives. Yeah. It's more reliable than an EMT blast.
Starting point is 02:05:16 We don't have factories that can make them right now, do we? They've all shut down the production on tape decks for computers because it was considered inferior or we didn't have a reason to use it or we found other means or like beta and VHS. The point is there's probably factories out there that could quickly start producing tape decks, tape drives for computers because it's not relatively difficult, but it would be really expensive. You'd have to fund it, finance it, and create the factory to do it. And that's old technology. So there's older stuff that we just stopped doing. And now we're like, maybe we should rebuild that. Well, they admit that we went to the moon with technology less than a TI-83 calculator.
Starting point is 02:05:50 You agree with that, right? Yeah, of course. So we didn't have computers, but now through Zoom, you can literally talk to people across the world instantly. Different tech. I know, but I'm just saying the technology that they had able to call Richard Nixon from the surface of the moon with like a three-second delay. To me, I just think that – and then it took how many years, 60 years for us to get Zoom? It's just the timeline for me.
Starting point is 02:06:11 I don't agree with that. Well, but like Zoom is very different from radio. Radio is very simple. In fact, Hacker Buddies of mine – To call 237,000 miles away on the moon is simple. Using radio? Yeah. Like, yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:24 There are people who bounce – But you saw Nixon on a landline away on the moon. Using radio? Yeah. Like, yeah. There are people who bounce. But you saw Nixon on a landline talking to the astronauts. You've seen that, right? Look, man. I know. I don't want to keep talking about it. I know. I know.
Starting point is 02:06:33 I love Nixon. I'm just kidding. But Nixon is the most honest president ever. There are hackers who are trying to take over satellites that want to bounce signals off the moon. There was a project that we were doing a brainstorming session where we wanted to use infrared laser pulsed into clouds that could only be detectable by an optical device so that you could translate the flicker of it into low-grade
Starting point is 02:06:54 data signals or audio. Like, yeah, there's really easy rudimentary light and radio wave based technology that is very different from encoding and decoding bits and streaming it over hard lines and things like that, but I digress. We'll just read a couple more here.
Starting point is 02:07:11 What's what we got? Reggae Vibe says, I think a civil war would look like War Inc. with John Cusack where corporations are literally fighting and funding the war along ideological lines. That's basically been the case forever. Like the civil war in the United States, there were people funding either side, hoping for a victory for whatever.
Starting point is 02:07:30 All right. All right. We'll grab one more. What do we got? Someone mentioning hollow points. Let's see. Oh, and did you know you can make a gun vlog on YouTube, but if you have a live stream with a gun in it, it immediately gets canceled. You can't handle guns on a live stream
Starting point is 02:07:46 and you can only handle guns in an approved environment. So if you have a gun channel and you're on a range, you're fine. If you have a gun channel and you're in a bedroom, you're banned. Oh, wow. I didn't know that. I knew it had to be approved, but I didn't know. I figured maybe a bedroom you could display the gun, but you're talking about you can't even really display it in a private room, basically?
Starting point is 02:08:02 All right. Is that what you were saying, Tim? Can you display a gun in a private room? Yes? All right. Is that what you were saying, Tim? Can you display a gun in a private room? Yes. But you can't handle it. You can't handle it. Yeah, yeah. Because like Crowder had the gun in his desk.
Starting point is 02:08:11 You can't handle it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's like decorative stuff and things like that. Gosh, Crowder really pushes the limit, right? He was a holster. I know. He's wild. All right, let's see.
Starting point is 02:08:22 The Science Change says, there were six crewed crude as in manned u.s landings between 1969 and 1972 and numerous uncrewed landings china also landed something on the moon recently i mean the question is like did we land the rover on mars did we land uh what was the big thing the volkswagen size things who landed on Mars was a huge deal. And it was like really scary because like the huge delay between Earth and Mars for a radio signal. Rover? Yeah, it was the, you know, Curiosity maybe. Oh, yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 02:08:53 Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, so there's like a whole bunch of stuff. But, you know, or whatever. Hey, you know what? We're going to wrap it up. It's Friday night, my friends. If you haven't already, smash that like button. Subscribe to the channel.
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Starting point is 02:10:58 Yeah. But that makes it entertaining, so... Correct. My personal theory is that Canada is not real, but that is an argument for a different night. I agree. I know. We'll get into that later. No, I'm just kidding.
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