Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #576 - Colbert INSURRECTION Crew Will NOT Be Charged In Double Standard w/Taylor Silverman

Episode Date: July 19, 2022

Tim, Ian, Jamie, and Lydia host skateboarder and female sports activist Taylor Silverman to discuss Stephen Colbert's employees who will not be prosecuted for trespassing (insurrecting??) at the Capit...ol, Twitter's refusal to remove Marjorie Taylor Greene's incendiary tweets about Dr. Levine, the NCAA's choice to nominate Lia Thomas as woman athlete of the year, and the PinkNews correlation between the term 'groomer' and the LGBQ+ community. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Stephen Colbert insurrectionists will face no criminal charges. Why? Because no one told them they had to leave. So apparently entering into a building without approval is not trespassing because no one told them to leave. It's funny. I seem to recall there's this beanie wearing podcaster who pointed that out about the January 6th protesters, not the people riding in the front, of course,
Starting point is 00:00:25 but the people who walked in when the doors were opened for them. And a certain other progressive podcasting outlet got really angry and called the Beanie Man stupid. Congratulations, the Young Turks, to getting this one so horribly wrong. But many people are pointing out the double standard. I'm not entirely sure it's a complete double standard. The people who worked for Colbert, and they didn't all work for Colbert
Starting point is 00:00:46 were some contractors entered into the Capitol building I think actually it was one of the buildings I think it was the Capitol building and they were arrested and charged for unlawful entry they're not going to be prosecuted and it's because no one told them they had to leave that's how trespassing works there have been, there's at least one case so far
Starting point is 00:01:02 where a guy has charges dismissed from January 6th because he proved not only that, but the cops waved him in. So I actually think this is really, really good for the January 6th defendants who are going to point this out when it comes to their trials. So as much as people are complaining about the double standard, which is fair, let's see when they bring this up in court how it's handled. We also have another story. Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Oh, no. Oh, boy. Marjorie Taylor Greene. Oh, no. Oh, boy. Marjorie, oh, no. She tweeted something very offensive about Dr. Rachel Levine. And Twitter gave her a flag saying, like, yeah, you broke the rules, but we're not taking it down. And we'll talk about that because it's a crazy topic nonetheless. And I understand why MTG is upset about what's currently happening with Dr. Rachel Levine advocating for child gender affirmation surgeries. So naturally, a lot of people are getting heated on this.
Starting point is 00:01:51 We've got a bunch of other stories. Joe Biden's economic policy has failed and his approval is in the gutter well below, like basically all of the previous presidents. And this one's funny. The Young Turks calling Joe Rogan right wing media again because Joe called Trump like a big baby or something. And it's just like, but we'll talk about it, I guess. Ladies and gentlemen, we actually have a big announcement. Wow, I've been waiting to make this announcement for months.
Starting point is 00:02:19 If you go to timcast.com and click the members only or click on the top right and sign up, when you sign up, you will notice that we are now officially using Parallel Economy for all memberships. And PayPal has been removed from the website. We are doing everything we can within reason to avoid completely just breaking apart our own systems while trying to get away from Silicon Valley, their psychotic censorship and cult-like ideologies. Parallel Economy, you may have seen, they've got a big old Dan Bongino on their front page
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Starting point is 00:04:19 it. I think it's absolutely fantastic. An hour-long show. As a member, you'll get access to the full season. We're going to keep doing more and more things like this. And guess what? This is the start of something that I hope becomes dominant and massive. We're using Parallel Economy to start a streaming video service, not unlike Netflix or Hulu. Granted, we are so much smaller than they are. But I'm hoping that within five years, we are competing with them or beating them.
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Starting point is 00:06:02 It's super awesome. Joining us today with perfect timing, considering the comments from Marjorie Taylor Greene, is Taylor Silverman. Hi, I'm Taylor Silverman. I'm a skateboarder, and I am one of the new employees here at TimCats. Yeah. Yeah. You've also been doing a ton of speaking.
Starting point is 00:06:19 I have. About women's sports, protecting women's sports. You spoke in D.C. at a big event. What was that? The Our Bodies, Our Sports Rally. Yeah. Cool. So it'll be cool to talk to you about, I mean, it's cool to hang out.
Starting point is 00:06:31 You talked about everything. For those that aren't familiar, Taylor's been helping with the vlog, although we have special new shows and other things planned with Taylor's help. So we're really excited for that. And then, yeah, thanks for hanging out, Taylor. Yeah, thanks for having me. We got Jamie. Hey, everybody.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Jamie Kilstein. I'm a stand-up comedian. I am writing the Cast Castle vlog, which there will be a huge announcement on tomorrow. YouTube.com slash Cast Castle. We are doing really big, really exciting things. You guys will find out about that tomorrow. I'm doing stand-up comedy in Houston, August 5th and 6th. I try not to curse on this show. It is very difficult. I will unload hate speech. I won't, but I will be very filthy. August 5th and 6th, you can get tickets at
Starting point is 00:07:15 theriothtx.com. That's in Houston, Texas, theriothtx.com. I also have a big announcement. Maybe not as big as Tim's, but close. Because of the TimCast followers, I have surpassed on Twitter my pre-cancellation numbers. You are uncancelled. I am uncancelled. I actually now have more followers than I did before I got cancelled. So if you would like to be part of that, you can go to Twitter.com slash JamieKilstein. And I love you all. Wait, everybody doesn't get
Starting point is 00:07:46 15,000 followers when they get canceled? Mm-mm. No. You gain followers. She gained followers. You know what I should have done when they were like, you cheated on your wife. I should have been like, trans people can't play sports with women. And then I would have gotten... Yeah, that would have been the best.
Starting point is 00:08:02 I screwed up. Stoked the flames. Gotta keep it hot. Strike when the iron is smoking. I also am here to play Ian Crossland from iancrossland.net. You can catch me out there anytime. Hit me up on social media. But let's get down to this. Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:15 I am so excited to have Taylor on tonight. She and I were talking over the show about some all sorts of issues. We talked for like an hour and a half. It's great. She's going to be a great guest, and I'm excited for tonight's show. I just want to say, Anomaly was actually supposed to be on the show today but I guess the airline,
Starting point is 00:08:30 the airport closed? So here's the deal. The weather was insane on the East Coast. He was supposed to leave the airport at 2.20pm. He was texting us at like 5pm saying, I haven't left yet. And I was like, I don't know if this is going to work. It was a short flight but he was going to continue on. Hopefully we we can rebuke him in the future optimistic about that
Starting point is 00:08:48 yes and uh well let's jump into this first story here we go ladies and gentlemen from the daily mail steven colbert's the late show staff who were arrested for unlawful entry to the capital last month will not be prosecuted doj says they wouldn't have been able to get convictions of those including Triumph, the insult comic dog. Now, why is that? Is it because they're in D.C. and D.C. likes these people? Is that how it works? I would assume so. But let's read. So the nine members of the late show staff arrested for unlawfully entering the Capitol last month will not be prosecuted. The DOJ has ruled. The Capitol Police released a statement Monday night in an update on the incident involving members associated with Stephen Colbert's talk show.
Starting point is 00:09:27 They say the U.S. Attorney's Office then confirmed they would not be moving forward with the case because they wouldn't have been able to secure convictions, according to a statement obtained by Axios. So let me just, here we go. They said the United States Capitol Police have been working with the U.S. Attorney's Office, the district, blah, blah, blah. The U.S. CP arrested nine people for unlawful entry because members of the group had been told several times before they entered the congressional
Starting point is 00:09:50 buildings that they had to remain with a staff escort inside the building, and they failed to do so. The US Capitol Police was just informed the US attorney's office for the District of Columbia is declining to prosecute the case. We respect the decision the office has made. Colbert dismissed the comparison between the arrests and the January 6th riot as a non-surrection and joked Triumph the No, it's a point. It's a point about double standard. He should be arrested for that joke. Seriously, that's so bad. I mean, the show is just not funny.
Starting point is 00:10:19 It used to be. Did you like it back in the day when he was doing just the O'Reilly thing and a lot of people didn't even know it was satire, I thought it was different and funny. And then it just slowly – Trump made comedy like comedians just brains break essentially. And yeah. It's political punditry. If you watch the beginning of the show, it's like a political monologue almost. At least the last one I watched was. I had to turn it off.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Yeah. I didn't have to. I chose to. There you go. You're a real man. I was the last one I watched was. I had to turn it off. Yeah. No, it's great. I didn't have to. I chose to. There you go. You're a real man. I was beanie toe. I had enough. Stephen Colbert and his fake smile.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Goodbye. He's one of those people, look at pictures of me, that he's smiling even when you know he's not necessarily happy today. He's just a joker. It's that kind of smile where you're like, oh, you're hurting inside. Yeah. What's going on there? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:00 So Mike Cernovich tweeted this. When you have absolute power, you don't even need to pretend even as people face trial for walking into a building with open doors dc democrats free their own regime propaganda so that is one way to put it yeah but i think it's true they would not have been able to secure a conviction because you bring triumph the insult comic dog actor into a courtroom with with uh jurors from dc and they're going to be like, but they're the good guys. They're allowed to break the law, right? Also, I mean, first of all,
Starting point is 00:11:30 if he was in court, my God, I hope they would let him actually act using the puppet. It would be amazing. Can you provide for the jury a demonstration of your show? Okay, here's the thing. That would be great.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Houston, August, where I can actually say that and not feel bad. I mean, I remember – so my last day job, I was 22. I worked at Borders Books and Music in Columbus Circle where I pretty much almost got fired every day. I would hide under the desk and drink cough syrup. I was a very sad boy. But CNN was right there and the one time i hung out with robert smigel who does triumph it was me robert smigel and tucker carlson just wait what just kicking it like no you're joking no i swear to god it was before the second george bush uh election tucker wasn't like known as
Starting point is 00:12:23 wearing a bow tie yeah Yeah, he was. He was wearing the bow tie and he was just like, ah, Bush is going to win. But like, he didn't seem thrilled about it. They were just hanging out. They were just like literally kicking it, drinking outside of this borders. And it was one of those moments where I'm like, this whole thing is fake. This is weird. It's all it's all fake.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Like nobody actually there's no one on the right who seriously thinks that colbert and triumph the insult comic dog should be arrested and then the majority of the people on the left not on twitter either they were sort of fed complete fear propaganda about january 6 or they're just kind of indifferent about it. You know what I mean? I mean, the polls show most people actually don't care. They don't care. They're like, what? I mean, I will say it is different in the sense that
Starting point is 00:13:13 Colbert, funny or not, is attempting comedy, was attempting satire, just like if we tried to do a bit on the White House steps or whatever for Cass Castle, whereas January 6th was politically motivated. Both are first – are 1A issues. So your right to satirize, insult, and mock is the same as your right to march to the Capitol and protest.
Starting point is 00:13:36 The thing is – so I – so look, the people who rioted and smashed windows, obviously you charged them. That's what I'm saying, yes. You see them on camera. They're being violent. They're destroying things. That pisses me off. There were like – there was a book book stand by a window that someone smashed into it's like bro it's like an artifact of this country one of like if not the great like the greatest nation on this planet in terms of expansion of civil rights and in the hard-fought battles we've had and you're like just besmirching
Starting point is 00:14:00 this awesome stuff yeah but the people who entered the building when the doors were opened did nothing. That, yeah. They walked up. One guy had a cop waving him in. And he showed that to the judge and the judge said, okay, dismiss. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:14:12 You can't charge someone for that. The fact that there are people still sitting in jail or that old lady, that old lady was not, look, correct me if I'm wrong, but that 69-year-old cancer patient,
Starting point is 00:14:23 I'm pretty sure wasn't smashing windows and fighting with cops. She could have been a Russian asset, bro. You don't know. She was charged with trespassing because people on the other side of the building that didn't see the riot walked up to open doors. There's a video of police opening the door saying, I don't agree with it, but I respect it. And those people are like, yay, and they're being let in.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Right. But the Colbert people get let go. We got serious trouble in this country if there's two-tier legal system. You should definitely let that old lady go. I didn't know about that. She was probably just looking for her grandkids or something. Who knows? I mean, regardless, it's like she's 69 and she has cancer, dude, and they gave her two months.
Starting point is 00:14:59 She's probably – Two months. Yeah. It's really obvious the message they're sending. This is why so many people just side with the left on everything, refuse to speak up because they know which way the machine churns. They know which way the valve is going. And if you just blindly march in lockstep, you get leeway.
Starting point is 00:15:21 You get free access. But if you're some doofy MAGA guy who sees the cop open the doors and smile and wave you in and take a selfie with you, they're going to put you in solitary. Yeah, this is really troubling to me because I see this as the politicization of our justice system, which should upset everyone. And I know the left isn't going to think this is a big deal until it comes for them because they
Starting point is 00:15:40 never tend to. But the fact of the matter is that this will affect everyone. Anyone who's looking past what Thomas Sowell calls the first stage, like stage one, is going to realize that this is going to turn around and bite them really hard somewhere down the road. I got to read Thomas Sowell. Yes, you do. I used to say this when I got in a bit of trouble for talking about drone strikes on Conan. When I was like, hey, I know we like Obama. I know he makes cool Spotify playlists.
Starting point is 00:16:07 I know his wife seems awesome and he plays basketball. And they high five and fist bump and she has a garden. But also if he is droning weddings and children, even if you like it when Obama does it, because Obama does it in like a cool guy way. Yeah. Who is going to be the next president? And everyone was like, it's fine. And then it was Donald Trump. And it's like, that's why people need principles instead of parties.
Starting point is 00:16:30 If you have principles, these are the principles I stand for. Then it doesn't matter who's in power. And in fact, you should be more upset when it's your team going against your morals because they represent you. So, man, shouldn't you speak up? That's why when it's like I hear cops speak up against bad cops, you go, yeah, man, that's really important.
Starting point is 00:16:50 When you hear liberals talk about how woke culture has gone crazy, it's like, yeah, it's like the people you get mad at the most in your life are your family. And one, it's most of our families are insane. But also it's because we love them. They mean the most to us. So you're more
Starting point is 00:17:05 emotionally invested i wish people did that instead of just blindly going on twitter and i used to do this something controversial would happen and i'd be like man i don't know about this issue and then i'd see how sort of my team lined up and i go all right well i guess that's the tweet i guess i got to side with them or else i'm gonna get in trouble that's the craziest thing when the covington catholic thing happened do you know about that the covington catholic thing too so like you you're like being thrust into politics and like you know recently yeah so there are these kids standing on the on the steps of the lincoln memorial minding their own business when some dude gets in his face banging the drum someone snipped that video from like it was like a really long
Starting point is 00:17:41 live stream or something wasn't it and then they put up this clip making it seem like the kid got in the face of the native american it was like mocking him or something and so i was getting inundated with people who were like moderate libertarian right wing being like dude tim did you see this this is messed up like it's making us look bad and then i was like what is it and they were like bro this kid got in his face and i was like really i where's the video and like it's right there i'm like that's just a video of two people standing in front of each other but everyone just got in lockstep and this is the problem with modern politics but this is also why you will not be criminally charged because not one of these people is like i'm not going up against the woke mob for this yeah you'd like do you think a dc prosecutor is like oh yeah i'll get re-elected
Starting point is 00:18:23 if i do that sorry no. No, no, no. It's all political. If you get arrested, like Steve Bannon right now, he just walked out of court recently for the contempt charges. A D.C. jury, they don't care. Apparently, I saw a fact check on this one. I just saw it, and there's a lot of preliminary work that's got to be done. A juror apparently said, I don't care what he says. I won't believe a word he says because of who he affiliates with.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Well, that person should be on a jury. That's right. Look, when Chauvin was being was going to be tried in Minnesota, they tried to get a change of venue, but the judge said there is no venue in the state where people don't know
Starting point is 00:19:00 about this case. My opinion then is, case dismissed. If you can't have a fair trial, you're done. Right. You could maybe ask for another state to hold the trial where people don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:10 But you can argue if everybody is biased against you and you can't have a fair trial, you cannot be tried, you are free to go because it is better that 10 guilty persons escape than one innocent person suffer.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Instead, they're just like, nah, we'll have a sham trial. There's riots outside. The jurors are being brought in with armed police officers carrying rifles. And everybody is terrified of the riots. And the jurors actually said they were scared of the riots, but
Starting point is 00:19:33 seems fair to me. That's where we're going. Chauvin got the book thrown at him about two weeks ago, I think. What did he do, like five life sentences or something stupid? Is that what it was? I don't know. Some ridiculous amount. I mean, to be fair, he's a murderer. Like, that was not good.
Starting point is 00:19:49 And also setback. Like, this, again, is what I was talking about, right? It's like you have something that blatant. It's not a Black Lives Matter versus Blue Lives Matter. Oh, we're going to get into our first fight. No, I don't think you watched any of the case. I don't think you. The video?
Starting point is 00:20:04 Yeah, I don't think you know anything about it. I just watched the video. There's multiple videos. Did you watch the full nine-minute body camera footage? And did you listen to the police experts? No, Tim. I'm trying to live a happy life. I just saw what Twitter wanted me to see, and I saw the guy who killed him. I was like, all right, I'm done.
Starting point is 00:20:18 When you learned the drugs that – what's his name? George Floyd was on. He was on five different drugs. I think it was fentanyl. He was behind the wheel of a car high on fentanyl, firstly., he was on five different drugs. He was fentanyl. He was behind the wheel of a car, high on fentanyl, firstly. So he should have been arrested immediately for that stuff. Methamphetamines, nicotine, marijuana. Well, why did you guys tell me that before I wore my George Floyd T-shirt on the show tonight?
Starting point is 00:20:37 You need all types. Come on, man. He asked to be put on the ground. Floyd did. But Chauvin did murder him. He did kill him. I mean, as far as I can tell, it was an illegal killing. So that's considered a murder.
Starting point is 00:20:46 I mean, every – here's what I'm basing it on because, no, of course I didn't know that stuff because I – you probably had to dig to find that stuff because it was so against the mainstream. I'm basing what I'm talking about on the cops I've talked to who were like livid. And in the trial – sorry to interrupt. No, no, no. talked to who were like livid and and in the trial sorry to interrupt no no you're good but in the trial uh the the state's own witness argued that chauvin was justified in using a higher degree of force than he actually used they actually had the continuum of force shown in the trial and he said because george floyd was on drugs and that you know like they don't know exactly what he was doing but he was belligerent, kicking on the chair and screaming.
Starting point is 00:21:27 At that degree, the police are allowed to use tasers. Chauvin, I don't believe, pulled him out of the vehicle. I'm not sure if he pulled him out of the vehicle. He asked to be pulled out. He was in the backseat kicking and kicking. And then they pulled him out later on. I don't know. I don't know if Chauvin was involved.
Starting point is 00:21:43 When Chauvin arrived, he was kicking to get out of the vehicle. And the state that was prosecuting Chauvin said, yes, he could have used a higher degree of force but chose not to. Right then, I was like, whoa, you got reasonable doubt on murder. You have a cop who was told by his training that he is allowed to use a taser but said, I'm going to do less force than i'm actually allowed to do right there i'm like that's it he had no intent to kill well but he did less force improperly and this is why cops there's a picture no no in the training manual of the police doing that exact maneuver and no no no but what i'm saying is improperly in the sense that and this is from the cops i've talked to as well they are trained horrifically one they don't train enough two a lot of their training is
Starting point is 00:22:26 antiquated especially when it comes to hand-to-hand combat well i was listening to jaco talk about the response of the uvalde uh shooting and he made a great point that i will quote now everywhere uh i go whereas cops should spend 20 of their time training yes Yes. Period. Training in firearms, training in tactical situations, training in jiu-jitsu. If you, I mean, one, a taser probably wouldn't have killed him, whereas that improper choke would have.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Any blue belt, you train jiu-jitsu for a year, two years, you know how to put someone who is on drugs. The reason jiu-jitsu is great is because if someone's on, if he's all high on PCP and I break someone's arm and stuff,
Starting point is 00:23:03 he may not feel it. All right, all right, but hold on, hold on. So for one, I think there was a probably justifiable manslaughter charge in the duration of the restraint. Yes, yes, yes. But that's about it. The issue is do we tell this one officer who was instructed to do everything he did that he's going to pay the price for the broken system to appease a mob or do we change the system instead of actually changing anything all they did was lock this guy and the other cops up and then tell all the activists mission
Starting point is 00:23:33 accomplished and the activists went away well and this is the problem with so many issues is we just try to duct tape solutions so people move on to the next thing they're angry about and we don't actually change the system this happens with all the systems that are broken where it's like I think between that between the school shootings we absolutely need to be focusing on like getting cops better training and it doesn't seem like that means defunding them it means getting
Starting point is 00:23:56 them better training and letting them train more instead of just you know sit around I concur well to wrap it all back up with the with the point of the segment though just to make the point no that's and i'm agreeing with you're talking about just i was gonna say regardless of um like what people believe about the case it's really dangerous how many people pass a judgment on it without watching the trial yeah and without getting all the
Starting point is 00:24:22 evidence politics 101 we sit here on the show. We pull up the clips. We watched Rittenhouse. We had how many? Seven witnesses to the Rittenhouse case on this show. Yeah, we had most of them. Journalists, people involved, people who are like, I can only say a little bit because I've been subpoenaed.
Starting point is 00:24:38 And then from these interviews, we were like, it's very clear Kyle Rittenhouse was innocent. But did the media do any of that? It's remarkable that you've got people who are like, it's very clear Kyle Rittenhouse was innocent. But did the media do any of that? It's remarkable that you've got people who are like, you know, Tim Kast isn't journalism. What we do isn't journalism. And it's like, well, for one, this show is political commentary on journalism. But when we're sitting here with you, watching these videos, showing you the sources, explaining why we think this source is good, that's like a million times better journalism than, say, the New York Times lying about Ukraine or something and Trump.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Well, and also we can ask questions. That's why I love being on this show, where it's like when you asked me if I saw that video, I was like, nope. Like, this is what I saw, and now that is going to, of course, and it should inform me. Whereas if I knew something you guys didn't, you guys would do the same thing, right? But look, I think one of the strongest divisions between left and right of this country is the left doesn't know anything about the news and the right does.
Starting point is 00:25:36 And that's really it. It's exemplified a million to one when I point out ground.news, bias fact check, Twitter blind spotter. Load up Ben Shapiro like the most prominent conservative Orthodox Jew, and you'll find him balanced between left and right wing news. You pull up the entire NBC news team, and it's all 100% left wing. That was me, remember? Yeah, so this is the issue with this country, is that these people like Washington Post, CNN, whoever else, who smeared the Covenant Catholic kids.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Yeah, because they don't read. They don't watch. They did zero investigation. And you know what I did? I watched the two-hour live stream. Someone was like, what happened? I was like, well, I better watch this two-hour live show on Facebook to see what it's all about. And I was like, so the black Hebrew Israelites were there and the kids were heckling them because they're racist anti-Semites.
Starting point is 00:26:24 And then this Native American guy got up in their faces and someone snipped that and accused them. I was like, OK. So I made a video about it saying, why is everybody doing this? Even conservatives were like they didn't read anything. I was amazed by that. Then you got AOC. She fabricated her January 6th story, completely fabricated it. And I'm just like, dude, look, there is the exception on the right
Starting point is 00:26:46 that prominent figures will put out fake news. It's the exception. It happens. I'll call them out. It is the rule on the left. Almost everything they say is always just misinformed, malformed nonsense. Well, the bottom line is if you truly believe in your convictions, if you truly believe in your side, if you truly believe in what you are voting for, then lying, exaggerating, not letting the other side, not even addressing the other side, it's going to completely contradict what you're trying to do. It's just going to turn people against you. There's just two cultures in this country, and we're seeing the emergence of – there was an article today I was reading about the emergence of parallel economies. And I'll do this shout out too. Several years ago, I said
Starting point is 00:27:29 the dangerous thing about censorship with what's happening on Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, is that it will lead to what's called a parallel economy. We've seen this pre-World War I when people stop trading with each other, it creates distinct economic blocks that can arm and develop resources and then sustain a fight with each other.
Starting point is 00:27:49 If there is one economic system, a sustained fight is not possible because one group that gets excised from it struggles to maintain any kind of resources. This is the goal of sanctions. We're going to cut you out of the global financial payment system, and then you can't wage war against us. Although that's failing because i would argue you know joe biden but now we're actually seeing it and the funny thing is about the emergence of the parallel economy we're a part of it we are actively supporting the company called parallel economy which we use sign up at timcast.com and support parallel economy but they literally call themselves parallel economy art imitates life and there will be a multitude of
Starting point is 00:28:23 parallel economies this is is not the last. But I don't, I think it might start, look, you've got Getter, Parler, Truth Social. That's a sort of fracturing.
Starting point is 00:28:33 But eventually, the quote unquote right will have its singular space, which may be Truth Social. It will have its track,
Starting point is 00:28:42 its version of Silicon Valley, which is forming in Florida, with Rumble and Parallel Economy. I believe Valley, which is forming in Florida with Rumble and Parallel Economy. I believe Parallel Economy is in Florida. I'm not entirely sure.
Starting point is 00:28:49 But you're going to have the emergence of a tech sector on the East Coast to compete against the West Coast tech sector. And they're going to have two different kinds of rules. And then you look at Truth Social and the left like, we're not going there. And the right's going to be like, Twitter's stupid. I got banned. I don't want to be there anyway. And then you're going to have two communication networks two financial service
Starting point is 00:29:06 networks you are going to have states completely odds with each other like you already do and then well and then you know i think the worst conflict can come from having a unipolar economy because people are more like when you look at revolution all these horrible bloody revolutions pretty much maybe not all of them but I'm saying the revolts against monarchs, not all of them, but a lot of the horrific stuff we've seen in society is a revolt against a monarch. I guess you could say that two parallel economies might come to blows as well, but I find slave uprisings are more dangerous and insidious because people will blow up their own land to get out.
Starting point is 00:29:40 I mean, of course, an enemy will blow up your land as well. Maybe they're equally as dangerous. Well, let's jump to this story. Thanks for letting me crap that out there, Tim. Axios.com reports from Axios. Twitter refuses to remove Marjorie Taylor Greene's transphobic tweets. I have so much to say. Here we go, Queen.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Twitter on Monday labeled but refused to take down a pair of highly transphobic tweets attacking Admiral Rachel Levine, the assistant secretary of health for the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Why it matters. Twitter has a practice of often labeling but not removing tweets from elected officials that would otherwise violate its terms of service. The tweets linked here misgender Levine while also using extremely vile terminology to describe gender reassignment surgery. Twitter's move means that people have to click through a warning to view the tweets. Twitter will also limit sharing of the posts. What they're saying, quote, the tweet you
Starting point is 00:30:32 referenced violated the Twitter rules of unhateful conduct, Twitter said in a statement to Axios. However, we've determined that it may be in the public's interest for the tweets to remain accessible and has been labeled in line with our policies. I just want to pause real quick and say if there is a barrier to seeing a statement from a public official, Twitter is engaged in politicking.
Starting point is 00:30:52 They are engaged in providing special favors for certain politicians and political ideologies. That has to be stopped. Okay. Like, imagine if during the civil rights movement, all the big companies were like, you're not allowed to advocate for these things because they're unpopular. So we won't even cover them in the newspaper. Or if we do, people have to pay extra. I mean, you need people to be able to talk about ideas. GLAAD, the LGBTQ civil rights group, condemned the move, saying,
Starting point is 00:31:20 this account has repeatedly and intentionally violated Twitter's hateful conduct guidelines against targeted dead naming and misgendering of trans people. A GLAAD spokesperson told Axios it's clear that some politicians see pushing malicious anti-trans content on social media as part of their election strategy, even with the full knowledge that such content is violative. I'll say this. Jamie brought up the point before the show that marjorie taylor green uh do you want to just say it she i mean okay i'll set this up so you can read so you can read the tweet oh no we're not going to read the tweet oh we can't you guys have to okay you guys have to read the guys guys listen to me everyone grab a drink and go read the tweet because it is a masterpiece uh this tweet is so
Starting point is 00:32:08 i mean i think both left and the right would agree yes it is taking something that should be super simple that we should all agree on um do not give sex changes to children that's it that's all you have to say. She could have spent less time tweeting if she just wrote don't give sex change to children. And then she could have gone and hung out with her kids or done whatever she did. Instead she was like what if I write something
Starting point is 00:32:35 completely nuts and I'll have some rhymes in there and I'll just... She will make things that should be simple insane and and and offensive where it's like hey I don't like wearing masks and she's like got it I'm gonna bring up Nazis and you're like no don't do that over the top so I can understand the anger hands down Admiral Rachel Levine made a video advocating for affirmation of children,
Starting point is 00:33:06 which means sex change operations for children and medical intervention and sterilization and things like that. And Marjorie Taylor Greene naturally is angry. But Marjorie Taylor Greene, look, we've had her on the show. We'll have her on the show again soon. I think there's a lot, so much about it that's fantastic, the way she challenges Congress. In this instance, and we'll talk about it because something like Alex Stein
Starting point is 00:33:30 is going to happen again, but I just feel like the righteous indignation wasn't there. Instead, it came out as like unserious. Like silly. It's hard to take her seriously when she takes stuff to like an offensive and ridiculous place.
Starting point is 00:33:44 It's Trumpian. Yeah. It's Trumpian. Yeah, it's Trumpian. So I got to say this, you know, we're talking about it now. And maybe that's why we see a lot of this. If she came out and just said this is wrong, we wouldn't be saying anything about the issue of giving sex change operations to children coming from the government, right? Advocacy coming from the government. And so, you know, look, I don't like the way she framed it. I'm glad the conversation is being put in the forefront. And there's a problem in this country
Starting point is 00:34:12 if that's how it has to get done. So let me make this point about Alex Stein. I criticized him for calling AOC big booty Latina. And I'm like, what does that accomplish? And then it turns out a lot actually because AOC then came out and called 1-6 effectively an inside job because of the lack of security at the Capitol.
Starting point is 00:34:28 And I was like, wow, that's like really strange. But let me just say like we got a problem with I guess humanity if you have to do things like this to generate a conversation about screwed up things because i was about to make the exact point that you made with stein where i was going to be like who is thinking i'm gonna let my kid transition and then they jump on facebook and they're like peen queen and then suddenly they change their mind who is that actually helping even us talking about it we're not talking about it we're not talking about child safety right now. We're talking about this dumb tweet. But I also – I thought all the Trump stuff wasn't going to work, and it worked. I feel like what ends up happening with people like Marjorie Taylor Greene or Alex Stein is they take the brunt of the ire, and then a conversation erupts around the issue. Well, and I think you nailed it where it's like the system is broken.
Starting point is 00:35:24 We should be able to talk about it just being like hey what's best for kids can we have that conversation it shouldn't be about you know clickbait tweets you know we we try to have i i'm just wondering if the time for decorum is meaningless the the time to for for cordiality or uh collegial behavior is just, it's out. Well, maybe she could at least get a little more creative so that her shock factor isn't at the expense of others. Because it's always offensive to one group or another. Yeah, but the issue here is neither side cares at all about the other side. So why are the Democrats doing a one-sided January 6th trial?
Starting point is 00:36:06 Because they don't care to convince Republicans. They want to rile up Democrats to get them to vote. They think we've locked it in. There's no one else to get. Get them riled up. Marjorie Taylor Greene,
Starting point is 00:36:17 I'd assume, I'll ask her, what was your thought behind this tweet? Can we be like, walk us through your creative process, please? Well, it's an unserious tweet. I mean, hands down, I'm sure a lot of people thought it was funny.
Starting point is 00:36:32 I'm sure a lot of people... No one thought it was funny. That's not true. She's got major fans. She's huge. She raised more money, I'm pretty sure, than like any other member of Congress. What is happening? Because she does things like this.
Starting point is 00:36:43 And that's why Trump was able to do it too. No, that's, yeah. Because there are a lot of people who just want the symbols and the machine behind what they oppose to be struck down. Right. So for Antifa, it's a brick through a window. Does the brick through the window actually change the system? No. And it doesn't even start a conversation.
Starting point is 00:37:03 The one thing I can say to this is like, I don't like the tweet, but she got people talking about it. The Assistant Secretary for the Health and Human Services is advocating for child, for children
Starting point is 00:37:14 to get sex change operations. Right. Okay, well, look, fine. Regular, moderate individuals, post-liberals, disaffected liberals, we can all sit here and be like,
Starting point is 00:37:23 I don't like the things she said. It's like, well, who else is calling out and standing up against the government advocating for this kind of stuff? The worst part is going to be when I meet her and I like her. And you will. This is the funny thing. I told Jamie this before. I was like, Jamie, you're going to agree
Starting point is 00:37:38 with everything she says. Oh, I hate it. I hate it so much. You guys won't tell anybody, right? Guys, I can't lose the new followers I got post-cancellation. Come on. Keep it between us. Things like this, obviously, people are going to be like, there's going to be a lot of people who very much like what she said. And she's going to stand by what she said and be like, I'm allowed to say it and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:59 And she is. And there's going to be a lot of people like us, former liberals or still traditional liberals that have like aligned with the moderates, libertarians and right because the woke stuff is crazy. And we're going to like kind of be like, she's right. But like did she have to say it that way? Right. And in the end, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because there's nothing that's going to get me to join the side of those giving sex change operations to children. So it doesn't matter. she can say, whatever she wants. Twitter can choose to ban her or not.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Her saying something that I might not like or say something I agree with, but in a way I don't like won't change the fact that the left already hates her. They're going to keep hating her. The right likes her. I just feel like both sides have said, we've got everybody we can get let's roll and if the left was intelligent at all they would see that even with that that that people like us are aligning closer with ludicrous tweets like that then the policies they're putting forward and they would go hey maybe we need to back up a little bit. Like, maybe we're screwing up if
Starting point is 00:39:07 people are siding with this. There's two distinct cultures in this country, and there's no mending that divide anymore. There was a period where it was one country split, splitting down the middle, but we are well past that point. This is an example of it. What's happening
Starting point is 00:39:23 with DC, with Colbert, is an example of it. There's happening with D.C. with Colbert is an example of it. There is Team A, Team B. There's Team Red. There's Team Blue. And if a Team Red person walks into the courtroom and it's in a Team Blue district, they're going to be like, lock them up. I think there's more. I don't identify with political teams.
Starting point is 00:39:38 People that are like, my team's the right Republican Red. My team's the left Democratic Blue. I'm like, I got a team. If I'm on a team it's not a politics team i'm bored with politics i don't like blab it i just i'm on team like science if there's like a you know quantum science team that's you know my except except ian if if you were criminally charged in dc they would just convict you simply because you're on this show. I wouldn't make assumptions.
Starting point is 00:40:06 You never know. And it depends on what it's for and what I did. What do you mean make assumptions? Sometimes people deserve to be convicted. The Colbert people are being released. The January 6th people are not. And it's the exact same crime. In fact, the Colbert people were warned not to be there.
Starting point is 00:40:19 And they were there after hours, too. They knew they weren't supposed to be there. But the other people were involved in a violent attack on the building. Well, they were there. This is a big problem. When someone's a half a block away from a crime that's going on, are they implicated in the thing going on a block away? No, they're not. Of course not.
Starting point is 00:40:36 So in this building, those people on the other side of the building should be released, in my opinion. Right. Pardoned and released. So at the very least, there may be people who get released. But my point is it's not hypothetical bro like we're watching it literally happen the the previous administration is arresting former trump officials steve bannon just left court today like he is being criminally charged because the democrats have forced people to go in and testify and provide statements that they're taking out of context in a non-adversarial show trial for January 6th.
Starting point is 00:41:09 They put me in their January 6th evidence. My dad texted me about that and was like, hey, where are you working? And I was like, please, please wait until – Send them the op-ed. I did. Send them Newsweek and say Newsweek was so shocked to see me included in the evidence that they asked me to write an op-ed because they were like,
Starting point is 00:41:29 they put the fence sitter milk toast guy in with the guys calling for a red wedding. The point is Raskin doesn't care. Dude is literally like 15 minutes away from us, by the way. And we have employees in his district. They don't care. My point is you, right at a time now where you, Ian, might be like, I don't want to be on anyone's team. in his district. They don't care. My point is you, we're at a time now where you,
Starting point is 00:41:47 Ian might be like, I don't want to be on anyone's team. That's okay. They chose for you. It's like Plato said, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not against these people.
Starting point is 00:41:54 That's the difference. If you go into a situation being like, you all are going to convict me. I know it. Those people are gonna be like, yeah, we're way more likely to do that now. But if you go in there saying, I've got an idea to help us all,
Starting point is 00:42:03 they're going to be way less likely to convict you. That's, I think you're just, it's just wrong. It's just social dynamics. You, I don't know why you think you're,
Starting point is 00:42:12 you're, you know, outside of what they're all actually, what's actually happening. It's like you, you can watch it happen. We can see it happen. You can comment on it happening,
Starting point is 00:42:22 saying it's wrong, and then be like, but it wouldn't happen to me. I don't get it. I just want to live in ian's world you seem he seems so much happier that way it's resolution i was like ian yeah like i'm picturing ian in the courtroom like brothers sisters come together can't we all get along and everyone's like yeah that's what i want i'm not even making fun of you i legitimately want to so i'm talking about like pulling carbon out of the atmosphere we can write lots of clues and stuff. And the juror says, your honor, I don't care what Ian just said because of who he affiliates with.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Like they did with Steve Bannon. Cringe. Okay. Who's this juror that doesn't care about the evidence? That is in the trial right now. Can I defend myself in this clown trial you've created? Yes. And right now with Steve Bannon, that's what's happening.
Starting point is 00:43:02 What's going on with him? So apparently, and again, I saw a report. Someone said a juror told the judge, I don't care what he says. He should be extracted from the courtroom. Yes, exactly. That's nuts. And the point is, in D.C., we are literally watching people get released from a committee of crime in which they were warned not to do it, did it anyway.
Starting point is 00:43:19 And on January 6th, a 69-year-old cancer patient is going to jail for two months because it is a two-tiered system. I don't know what she did. I don't know the extent of why. Fair point. I don't either. But she was charged with trespassing. That would have been funny if we were defending her and she was just planted explosives on the side.
Starting point is 00:43:36 She's the one that was waving them in. Yeah, exactly. She's like, I only have a little bit to live. Let's take this place down. I don't think that people that have been trespassing right now on capital property should be arrested at all. I'm not playing double standards here. I'm not like, well, they did it to them, which was wrong, so do it to them, which will still be wrong. Two wrongs don't make a right in this situation.
Starting point is 00:43:55 What I'm saying is that you are subject to the same system as everybody else. I understand that part. Right. You might say, like, I don't want to be on your team, and I totally get it. You're right. But you are, whether you want to be your team and i totally get it you're right but you are whether you want to be or not well and they will choose for you i mean we all have tried we have personal tribes and friendships and communities and stuff like that but it doesn't have to be a political team i never believed this and and i was you know but tim made this point the
Starting point is 00:44:17 last time i was on the show and unfortunately it's like from what i've seen on social media it's like you're right which is the right is far much more accepting right now to people with diverse views than the left is. And I know that because people on the left who have been fans of mine who, when I started coming on this show without listening, would be like, you're out. And then people on the right who found me on this show will write me and go, hey, man, I don't agree with you, but, like, I'm glad you're on the show or whatever. And to me, one of the reasons that I was on the left, that I loved about it, was we were supposedly the party of inclusion, right? And now you are far more likely, like you're saying, man, to be completely cut out, whether it's in the court of law whether it's on social media even in like friendship groups i'm hanging out with far more conservative people who probably disagree with me on a lot more than i would be with like a lot of my old woke i i i am coming to believe for a variety of reasons some private reasons that the left and the right are being divided among a propensity towards, on the right, morality,
Starting point is 00:45:29 like a sense of honor, duty, and responsibility, and the left is ignorance or malice. And so I say tendency or propensity towards. The right has bad people, obviously. The right has grifters. The right has all that. But it's the exception. If you look at, as I mentioned with the bias checker, you look at people on the right has grifters the right has all that but it's the exception if you look at as i mentioned with the bias checker you look at people on the right you'll see they're fairly
Starting point is 00:45:48 balanced and trying to understand the world you'll see that they're very much about you know duty or family or protecting or creating and then you look at the life and it's very much about me me mine i get i want the picture of leah thomas on the podium standing by themselves where the other men are walking away like the entirety of the event is saying to you, we do not like what you are doing right here. But they don't care. They say, I'm happy. You have stories of these contests, skateboarding contests, where no one will clap or cheer for the biological male competing against females. They don't care. They laugh and they say, so what?
Starting point is 00:46:27 I get mine. Did you see that recently Leah Thomas was nominated for NCAA Woman of the Year Award? Yeah. Alongside Riley Gaines, who was a swimmer who spoke up about tying with her and being pushed off the podium photo. It's shocking. And someone from UPenn didn't get that opportunity at all. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Well, let's pull that story up. I feel... So this is... Let me pull this up from NBC. I just... I feel sorry for all the girls who got nominated because it's a huge honor
Starting point is 00:46:59 to even be nominated and to have it be made a mockery of is so disrespectful. Insulting, yeah. Yeah. Here's a story from NBC News. Trans swimmer Leah Thomas nominated for NCAA Woman of the Year Award. The University of Pennsylvania athlete shot to fame earlier this year when she became
Starting point is 00:47:15 the first transgender NCAA champion in division history. Now, most of you know the story of Leah Thomas. I wonder, they don't have the photo here. There's a photo where Leah Thomas is standing on the podium and all the girls go far away and take a picture together, leaving Leah Thomas, the transgender swimmer, to their lonesome. This, to me, is an example of the psychopathy, the narcissism, the sociopathy, just all of these, like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:47:43 You know, look, the point I was just making for those that are just tuning into the segment was that the right has, uh, let's, let's go to Jonathan Heights research, the moral foundations. There are six. The right has an equal balance of all of them. Libertarians only have one moral foundation. It's hilarious. It's a Liberty. That's it.
Starting point is 00:47:59 They don't care about anything else. It's kind of creepy. Actually, if you look at the questions asked and liberals have care and fairness and nothing else. It's kind of creepy, actually, if you look at the questions asked. And liberals have care and fairness and nothing else. So it seems like you have a tendency among the right, conservatives, to have a balance to their views. I wonder if this has something to do with a tendency to live in rural areas. Like in our experience, what happens when you catch a cute little animal that is a rabies vector? Nobody wants to cause harm to the cute little animal, but when you don't, people die. And so you have to make hard decisions and recognize, hey, look, you're hungry, that chicken, kill it. Who's going to kill the chicken? Oh no,
Starting point is 00:48:33 but we love the chickens. They're so funny. You got to do it. And I wonder if that's the reason why people growing up in cities isolated from all of this have become narcissists, have become egotistical and have an overreaction towards the idea of care and fairness. What I've been seeing on the right, you got your grifters. You got some people who are notable for copyright infringement, just stealing contents, pulling labels off it. And they've done well for themselves, and it pisses people off.
Starting point is 00:49:01 But for the most part, you have an attempt at honesty, conversation, compromise. And then you take a look at the left and it's malicious. It's ignorant. It's angry. Care and fairness is getting twisted, I think, in the sense that if you see someone suffering,
Starting point is 00:49:17 people are like, oh, I want to make that suffering stop. But in reality, people sometimes need to suffer to grow, to learn about themselves. They need to go through pain and hardship. And it's called tough love. It's a very specific thing.
Starting point is 00:49:29 And to eradicate that and make sure that people are comfortable frequently without resistance, they're going to fall. I have to wonder about it, though, man. My experience with even today, the people on the right that I'll talk to for instance Seamus is a great example oh yeah Seamus gets mad when we argue about abortion and I say like
Starting point is 00:49:50 I think there are circumstances where it's the government should not be intervening and Seamus of Freedom Tunes good friend he's very pro-life and thinks there should be
Starting point is 00:49:58 a nationwide ban on it and we disagree and we've gotten heated and then we write jokes together and we laugh together because you know we really do just want to live together and hope we can do right by each other
Starting point is 00:50:07 and then you want shames also knows you're going to hell so he he wins the long game well shames doesn't want me to go to hell he's trying to save us all no he is i mean but he literally is yeah no i don't for his beliefs in his view that's what he's trying to do and uh when we argue about it we get angry but afterwards we're laughing we're about it, we get angry. But afterwards, we're laughing, we're having pizza, and we're working together. But with the modern iteration of whatever the left is,
Starting point is 00:50:31 the reason why people like you, Jamie, or you, Taylor, are now all of a sudden being associated with the right for whatever reason is because there's an open conversation on the other side of those flames. On the left,
Starting point is 00:50:41 you're surrounded by a wall of fire. And they tell you if you go near it, you'll be burned. And that's why people are scared to speak up and won't. But on the other side of those flames. On the left, you're surrounded by a wall of fire. And they tell you if you go near it, you'll be burned. And that's why people are scared to speak up and won't. But on the other side of it, we're chilling. This is like... It's like that movie, The Village. You ever see
Starting point is 00:50:56 that? That M. Night Shyamalan movie? Yeah. They're in the village. It's also like... There's that Breitbart quote I have to bring up and then forget. The other side of the fire. Well, I don't know. You want to pull it up again? Yes. So, Andrew Breitbart quote I have to bring up and then forget. The other side of the fire. Well, I don't know. You want to pull it up again? So Andrew Breitbart had a quote about the fire, and then someone told me a different version of it.
Starting point is 00:51:14 And I always forget what the quote was, so then I ask Ian to look it up. It's the walk toward the fire quote. Let's see it. Walk toward the fire. Don't worry about what they call you. All those things are set against you because they want to stop you in your tracks. But if you keep going, you're sending a message that people are rooting for you, who are agreeing with you. The message is that they can do it too.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Oh my God, you guys made me like Andrew Breitbart too. I know, right? What a day for me. You know, he used to be a huge liberal. I do remember. Didn't he start like Huffington Post with Ariana? Yeah. That's right.
Starting point is 00:51:40 That's right. So someone told me about that quote. And then what they said was, think of it like you're surrounded by a wall of fire. And everyone keeps saying, if you go near that, you'll be burned. Don't go near that. And then eventually someone starts walking towards it with all of them screaming, stop. You're crazy. You're stupid.
Starting point is 00:51:57 You're wrong. Don't do it. They get violent, trying to stop you. And then the person jumps through the fire. And now they're on the other side. And what do they see? It's a beach. People are hanging out with cool, crisp air. They're drinking
Starting point is 00:52:07 beers. They're laughing. They're swimming. People are taken off to go home and everyone else trapped inside is too scared of what's on the other side or to go near the flames. The flames, it's the wokeness. It's, if I speak up against this person, the woke people will attack me and destroy me. Well, some people
Starting point is 00:52:23 get attacked and destroyed regardless. That's a great... I'm laughing so hard. I mean, even when the beach part of the metaphor, everyone was like, you can't for years. You can't go on Tim Pool's show. You can't go on Tim Pool's show. Then I show up here and you're like, we have
Starting point is 00:52:39 swords and guitars. And I'm like, this is amazing. This is so fun. We got drinks. We got fancy whiskey. We got people of different political views. Oh, I burned my eyes on Pappy's. I never thought that would happen. I'm a man now. The fire being wokeness is brilliant
Starting point is 00:52:53 because if you get near it and then you mock it, it's going to burn you. But if you pass through it, you're fine. There's so much more outside of this cult. Well, and guys, I have great news.
Starting point is 00:53:05 I'm going to do the Ian. I'm going to look straight to camera and say this. Twitter isn't real. Yeah. Like Twitter isn't real. The times where you're getting mobbed or you're in an argument, you go outside, birds are still chirping, man. You go to Starbucks, the cashier will still talk to you.
Starting point is 00:53:20 You can still have a normal conversation with people. You can still say hi. You can still pet strangers, dogs. Like it is not real. I truly believe the majority of people align with us, where they're decent people. They want everybody to
Starting point is 00:53:34 have rights. They're not following the news. They don't know about what Marjorie's writing on Facebook. They just want to take care of their families. But the fire that's woken is moving. It's burning. And if you sit still, if these people outside the fire are fine, but the fire will move and surround them if they're not aware of what's going on.
Starting point is 00:53:53 I do agree. I think you're half right. I think that my story is a really good example of that because people were telling me from the very start that I ruined my life and I was never going to have a career and that I should just like hurt myself and leave skateboarding, leave the internet. But my life has only gotten better. I've had more opportunities. I've gotten to actually speak up about this issue and have a bigger platform for it, which is important to me. That's why I spoke up in the first place. For those that aren't familiar, you competed in a skateboarding contest against a transgender biological male and came in second. And now you're speaking at big events. I don't want to make announcements for you, but you've been speaking in a lot. Yeah, I've been doing a lot and I'm really grateful for that. And I'm grateful to work
Starting point is 00:54:37 with a team of other women who are either athletes who have gone through a similar experience or doctors or attorneys who support us. But had I not just committed to what I said and just gone through that fire, like for lack of a better term, then it would have just passed. And there was a second where you were just getting burned, right? For a moment before you tweeted, before Colin Wright tweeted.
Starting point is 00:54:59 And then I saw it. Oh, shout out Colin. Yeah. Thank you, Colin. You're the best. He bought me hot chicken in Nashville. This is, oh yeah. I think it. Oh, shout out Colin. Yeah, thank you, Colin. You're the best. He bought me hot chicken in Nashville.
Starting point is 00:55:05 This is awesome. Hot chicken, Nashville hot chicken. I think it was his girlfriend, Christina, who showed him the story. So shout out to her, too. Shout out to Christina. So let's wrap this all up together. The analogy is actually perfect. You were warned to stay away from the fire, even though it sucked where you were, and
Starting point is 00:55:20 you were like, this is bad. It was worse just feeling miserable about not speaking up for myself but then you were me you walked to the fire and the first thing that happened was you got burned and people started just crapping all over you well on the internet not in real life no for sure it's like the burn doesn't kill you it hurts but then all of a sudden colin wright grabbed your hand and pulled you out of the fire on the other side colin wright's rad dude we're we're big fans he's been on several times him and his girlfriend i got to finally meet him in person he was so cool well and actually and i'll give props to you too taylor by speaking up what like
Starting point is 00:55:55 i didn't i was so scared and so filled with shame with mine that i was just like i'm gonna disappear i i literally still thought I was talking about this with Joe at a show. Like I, it was so culty where I was like, by me not defending myself still makes me a better ally. Like I didn't want to say anything that would make me sound like I was trashing any women. So I just stayed quiet. And because my only fans were super woke people everyone was just like they got their marching orders and they bailed so i didn't have backup and then by me staying quiet there was no one defending me you know what i mean like joe texted a couple people texted but for the most part i just i went dark and just started teaching jiu-jitsu. And so when Taylor did speak up for herself, like that does go to show how powerful it can be when you really believe what you preach and also when you just go, no, I'm not going to take crap and I'm going to defend myself right away.
Starting point is 00:56:56 There are people who will back you up, which is rad. You know what? Like the best piece of evidence that the right is not a cult is that our good friends over at Patriots.win routinely call me cuck. In other words, but still routinely watch my content and then insult me over it. Fellow cultists can still call you a cuck. Beware.
Starting point is 00:57:13 No, they hate me. I don't know if that's true. The point is, they smack talk me, they smack talk Joe, they're like, these people are weak, but that right there shows
Starting point is 00:57:22 they're sharing content outside of their circle. They're sharing things that other people are saying explaining why they think we're wrong and why that deserves to be called a cuck or whatever and i made a point i said this actually shows they're not in a cult well because they watch people they disagree with to learn what they're saying the cult isolates you from everyone else and ironically by watching something that uh they shouldn't be watching kind of makes them a cuck. When do you think about the term? Self-imposed.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Oh, I get it. I refuse to accept that that wasn't funny. And I was like, I will sit in this silence until you guys figure out that I'm hilarious. This video is going to live on in perpetuity. Well, how's it since then, I mean...
Starting point is 00:58:05 Yeah, what happened exactly without... Because it's somewhat of a sensitive topic on YouTube and things like that, but you were in a contest, and then someone that was a transgender woman who was a biological man competed in the contest and won first place? That's right.
Starting point is 00:58:20 I got second place. And then what happened? Well, I didn't speak up about it right away because I didn't know how to handle it. And I didn't want to. I wanted to just enjoy the contest and skate like normal. And I tried to just be a good sport about it. But the more that I thought about it, the more I realized how unfair it was and how wrong it was.
Starting point is 00:58:41 And I thought I should reach out to Red Bull. So I emailed Eric at Red Bull. unfair it was and how wrong it was and i thought i should reach out to red bull so i emailed eric at red bull and it was it was a polite email i just said hey i have some concerns about this being unfair i'm not sure if you're the right person to talk to about it but i'm sure you can direct me to the right person and we'd emailed before he'd always got back to me it wasn't like i just like emailed customer service and and like hoped i would hear something hope that's then one of the cars with a big red bull can on top to pick you up right no it's like the guy who was organizing all the stuff for um the contest after i had qualified in michigan and
Starting point is 00:59:14 he just never responded so for a while i just tried to ignore it and i had shared the story of what had happened with i'd say hundreds of skaters because it had been like four or five months. And everybody was just like, oh, my gosh, I'm sorry that happened. And seeing everyone's reaction to it kind of validated the way I was feeling. And I started to feel really guilty for not speaking up because I had seen other women speak up in other sports. And I knew this happened in skateboarding more than just the one time it happened to me. It happened to me prior, and I was seeing it happen in other contests too. So I felt guilty because I knew that being in second place and there having been money involved, this is the type of story people would listen to.
Starting point is 01:00:01 And I did not expect it to blow up the way that it did. I thought it would cause some local outrage and at least get a conversation started since obviously emailing Red Bull wasn't a way to start a conversation about it. They did not want to have that conversation at all. But yeah, it went viral. Do you think that are like behind you? Oh, I get messages from parents all the time. There are so many parents who are concerned about their kids and they have young kids and they're concerned that they're never going to get a fair opportunity in sport or might not even want to go try out for a team if they're to face this. You think there's any value to having like a league where anyone can compete,
Starting point is 01:00:45 men and women? This is ridiculous. Like an open league. An open league. That's not right. I don't think that's a ridiculous idea. I think that in some sports perhaps it could work. But I don't think that it should be at the cost of the female division.
Starting point is 01:00:58 I think it's important for there to be a female division. So why aren't more people speaking out? Because they're scared because they saw what happened to me on the internet but what you got like a job and you're traveling yeah hello people like the people who hate comment on my page i don't know them they don't affect my life at all i've been traveling the world i got a new job i'm skating literally as part of my job thank you tim we got a bunch of skate projects. Well, so full disclosure for people listening, we want to do a skate shop.
Starting point is 01:01:28 We want to do contests. We want to do community events. And I was just like, we need someone who's into that stuff to help make that happen. So Taylor's going to be working on a lot of that stuff aside from just being in the vlog or whatever. You actually beat Tim in a game of skate, is that?
Starting point is 01:01:42 I've beat Tim in a bunch of game of skates. But the thing is, is he'll only allow a camera in if he's already... That's not true. Yeah, so every time you see it on video, I lose. He'll, like, invite Nick down as soon as he's got me to tea. He's like, hold on, hold on, let me... I never invited anybody to film when they're skating.
Starting point is 01:02:00 But I really want people to understand that if you speak up about this, you will get support. There's a lot of people who support you, and there might be a bit of an attack on the Internet at first. And depending on where you live, people in your community might treat you like garbage. But do you want to sit around pretending that you agree with them, or would you rather stand up for what's right? Well, I can answer that. It's really hard for me to sit around and act like it was okay. I never saw you respond out of anger to people.
Starting point is 01:02:27 I never saw you demean other people. I've only heard you talk about it in how you feel about what happened. From the beginning, I said I don't want people to go attack anyone. I think that the people who are responsible are the contest organizers who allow it to happen because the reality is all the athletes competing are just going by the rules. And I think that we just have to have an honest conversation about women deserving a fair space and what can we do to create a solution that everyone's happy with because what's happening now is not fair. And there's a lot of people who are upset about it. I wouldn't, my story wouldn't have blown up if there weren't people all over the world
Starting point is 01:03:03 who are concerned about what's going to happen to women's sports if this continues. Well, Taylor, when you said you can sit around and ignore it, I was like, oh, that's what I did. I remember when these, I would not consider myself by any means transphobic or anti-trans in the slightest. And I would actually, I would tell people on the left who don't want to speak up about these issues that you really should speak up about these issues because when an issue on the left gets pushed so far over the edge, where we're talking about surgery to kids, where we're talking about women not being able to compete in sports, stuff like that, right? By not talking about it, what you're essentially doing is you're
Starting point is 01:03:46 taking the most extreme version and now that's what people think all trans people are, right? All trans people are trying to cut off your kid's private parts and then take your girl's gold medal in track and field or whatever. And it's pushing more and more people to the right because I remember there would be stories about i think when i was still doing a progressive show is when fallon fox the transgender mma fighter was just schooling women school and i uh beating beating the hell out of breaking their skull yeah and i didn't want to cover it because i I knew that I would get in trouble but also as like an MMA fighter
Starting point is 01:04:28 I was like I don't think this is right and then I would feel bad because I'm like but I'm just a straight cis guy I can't comment on it that's creepy and we just wouldn't talk about it I didn't want to talk about it I felt bad not saying something
Starting point is 01:04:44 that thought right there that you would be like this seems wrong I didn't want to talk about it. Yeah. I felt bad not saying something. That thought right there that you would be like, this seems wrong, but then divert to, but I'm a straight white man. Well, yeah, man. I mean, when you're, first of all, and we can get vulnerable and not funny at all, where one, like I have cripp by, and I'm sure a lot of people listening have felt this, if you're surrounded from privilege and my default is to be down on myself anyway of course i'm gonna be like okay i guess i just like shouldn't talk about it this is the interesting thing here between the two of you is that taylor looked into the fire and just decided one day to just jump through it they grabbed you and threw you through it they sure sure did. And then I was like, we're going to burn them on the fire.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Wait, it's not so much of a fire as I thought it would. They thought they were putting you on the fire. You're like, wait, I can see through it. I don't feel like it was so much a choice for me either, because at a certain point I felt like I had to do something.
Starting point is 01:05:57 And I was really frustrated. But you still walked on your own. I was escorted. What was the point? What was the moment when you realized? I, well, I don escorted. What was the point? Escort this man through the fireplace. What was the moment when you realized? I, well, I don't know. I think I felt, it's hard to say because I had a lot of friends who are very supportive of me, including like mentors who have been around throughout the years of me skateboarding.
Starting point is 01:06:21 And I just felt like I needed to do the right thing and I knew that people would come after me I knew that people would come after me for being Jewish being in Israel but also being in Israel I felt really safe I knew that there wasn't going to be an angry mob with pitchforks outside of my house no one was going to attack me at the skate park although I did have the experience where the the guy I was renting from the day after I went on Piers Morgan he like asked me to leave and i talked to him and i think it was a misunderstanding plus there was a language barrier but um that was kind of scary i thought for a second i messed my life up i'm never gonna
Starting point is 01:06:54 be able to stay anywhere but you communicated with him and everything was fine yeah everything was totally fine we were cool after i had someone throw me an escape park yeah i haven't had that happen at all in real life i get threats online all day but i'm sure it could happen that's very poignant that you mentioned that communication with the person that had misunderstood something they saw you in yeah but i actually i don't even know if he saw me or if he was just like why is this woman bringing a camera crew into the place i'm renting to her? I'm not part of this. But everything was fine. And I've been, I've gotten only support in real life. Like, it's been the opposite of getting threatened at the skate park.
Starting point is 01:07:33 I, like, go to a skate park in Indiana and everyone was high-fiving me, excited I was there. Well, and what's really cool about shows like this, I think, is that, you know, for a little while, your only option, if you were thrown into the fire by the left was to go full right wing. And that's what I refuse to do. Even when I was broke and in like a ratty apartment infested with fleas, like I did not want to do that. What's really cool about spaces like this is it, you just feel safe. You just feel safe to figure out how you feel and to evolve and to ask questions. And it doesn't mean suddenly, okay, now I'm all right. Oh, that didn't work. Okay. Now I'm a Bernie bro. Oh, that didn't work. Okay. I'll be a centrist then. You don't have to do that. All of us listening should be allowed to evolve opinions without being called a grifter, should be allowed to agree with a conservative thing here, a liberal thing here, a progressive thing here without having to, like you were talking about before, Ian, subscribe to a team.
Starting point is 01:08:39 Because for the most part, if you find a team you line up with entirely on every single issue, you're probably lying is what I found. Let's jump to the story from Pink News because I think we're going to see a lot of people decide they don't want to be associated with this group anymore. In what I would only describe as a hilarious self-own, Pink News says anti-LGBTQ groomer slur banned on Reddit in bid to tackle hate speech. Your move, Twitter. Okay, let me just clarify. Reddit did not ban the term groomer, but the fact that that's what they think is happening
Starting point is 01:09:14 and that the word groomer itself is just describing the LGBTQ community is a ridiculous and hilarious self-own. They're calling themselves groomers when that's not what's being implied. And the evidence for this is that there's also a smear
Starting point is 01:09:29 against a group called Gays Against Groomers. And it is LGBTQ people who are like, we don't like what these groomers are doing in our name. That sounds good. It's great. It sounds very good.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Because groomer, as a word, refers to people who are grooming kids. That's bad. Well... very good. Because groomer, as a word, refers to people who are grooming kids. That's bad. Well. Pink News is trying to conflate the entirety of the LGBTQ community with the groomers. And it's likely because, in my opinion, there's been an attempt among pedos to infiltrate and get the community to defend them. And it's starting to work.
Starting point is 01:10:02 They tried LGBTP. That didn't work they tried map didn't work groomer all of a sudden now these activists are coming out and defending groomer saying hey stop making fun of us and it's like us what uh-oh yeah love is love thing is not real there's erotic love and then there's storg which is love of family there's lots of different kinds of and there's pedophilia which is not about loving but abusing children that's totally a different type of love according to the greeks than like your love of family okay so i'm trying to logically figure out why the left would do this the only thing i can think of
Starting point is 01:10:40 is it because there are bad faith people who are homophobic who are just starting to use the word groomer as sort of a new way just to call all gay people groomers and again i still disagree i'm just trying to figure out why would you do this why would you want to associate yourself with the term groomer generally no uh there are probably some people who have yes but in terms of what groomer actually refers to it's's like libs of TikTok pointing out teachers are going after kids. Right. They're referring to people secretly meeting with children and telling these things. There may be some people who are saying that's a groomer and it's just a general blanket idea.
Starting point is 01:11:19 But the idea behind groomer is specific to the individual targeting a child. This is exactly. So let me just say, the rule that Reddit implemented was on one subreddit, and it said, don't refer to all gay people as groomers. That was the actual rule. Pink News then comes out and says, they've completely banned the word because it's a slur against gay people. And it's like. Not all groomers are evil. Like, for instance, this is a very neutral take.
Starting point is 01:11:43 The groom. When people get married, there's the man is now the groom. He's being groomed by the woman to be a father. We're not talking about semantics. Parents groom their children to become young adults, to become good people. Good parents do. Now, when people are grooming them to do evil, that's the kind of grooming that you've got to watch out for. Ian is hashtag not all groomers.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Not all groomers. Except groomer specifically is a verb that refers to a specific concept. In this lexicon, I understand, yeah. Right, so we don't need to describe the differences between words. Like if I said, you know, would you go for a run? I'm not talking about putting a floppy disk in a computer.
Starting point is 01:12:16 I'm talking about going and exercising and no one needs to understand that argument. I did try to run with Ian earlier. But keep in mind, as the conversation evolves, keep that little tidbit in the back of your mind. Well, and this is exactly what was killing me about the kid surgery when it comes to trans rights, where this is the same thing. It's like, guys, is this the hill we want to die on? Because now people on the right are just seeing LGBT groups defending the word groomer and they're gonna go all right i
Starting point is 01:12:46 don't want to be associated with that i want i want you to imagine this there's a skeevy creepy looking dude yeah standing outside of a playground looking at children and licking his lips yep and you go hey you get out of here you you pedo and then a bunch of gay people walk over and stand next to him and go stop making fun of of us. Right. And you go, wait, what? Right. What?
Starting point is 01:13:07 What? Well, that's what pink news just did. And it's like, uh, my concern was with that guy targeting the kids, but not y'all. I don't like the amalgamation of groups.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Like a pedophilia is nothing to do with bisexuality. No gay, no transgender. Right. Transgenderism has nothing to do with bisexuality, gay, transgender. Transgenderism has nothing to do with gay at all. You can be a straight person that transitions your gender. You don't have to be...
Starting point is 01:13:31 So this weird grouping together, maybe it's out of a survival instinct or something. I think it's doing more damage to the movement. 100%, dude. And how many gay people were probably livid when they saw this? Probably a lot. That's why there's a group called Gays Against Groomers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:46 And one, also, they probably don't want to speak out because it's like, oh, now am I going to get in trouble for speaking out against groomers? Well, they don't even want to get involved. Right. It's not worth it. Well, like, they're starting an organization. Look, Gays Against Groomers. And the funny thing is they talk about how there's like the LGB movement.
Starting point is 01:14:03 Have you guys heard of this? Right. Yeah. Because, so there are people, particularly in, I think, the UK, is they talk about how there's like the LGB movement. Have you guys heard of this? Right. Yeah. Because so there are people, particularly in, I think, the UK, and they say, what does a woman liking a woman, a man liking a man, or a man or a woman liking both have to do with being gender dysphoric? Love it. So that's why there's been this LGB movement that said, that's totally different from what
Starting point is 01:14:23 we do. Right. Get this. A transgender person who is a trans lesbian, that means they're biologically male, transition to be a woman, and then marry a woman, they do not need any special laws made for them. They could always, in 1990, those people could have gotten married. Gay people, lesbians and bisexual people, had to actually get a legal right. That's why I understand fighting for gay marriage. TQIAS2P plus or whatever, don't. Now, in the instance a trans person was biologically male
Starting point is 01:14:59 and wanted to marry a man because they were trans straight, they call it, then you needed a special law, but that's only half, right? Or I shouldn't say half, but that's not the entirety of the trans community. In which case, LGB, all, 100% of those people needed provisions to change in government so they could get married. The trans community, not completely. Queer community, not completely. Intersex, nothing at all. I mean, the issue there is there's a difference. And the cult is trying to amalgamate as many groups as possible. Like, you ever see the image of the Muslim woman with the rainbow hijab or whatever? It's like a rainbow flag behind her.
Starting point is 01:15:39 And I'm like, that's strange. Or there's a, I don't know if it was the L word or some show. They had a lesbian Muslim woman and it created huge outrage in the Muslim community around the world because they were like, this is not acceptable. They're trying to take as many different groups and put them under one umbrella even when they don't like each other. So I think it was in Birmingham in the UK. Muslims came out to protest the schools doing an LGBT curriculum. And they were calling the teachers like groomers and pedos and stuff and saying, we don't want our kids learning this. Our kids are seven years old.
Starting point is 01:16:15 They're too young for this. And then this guy goes, I'm doing this for you. I'm doing this for you. And they were like, we don't like you. It's very strange when they try and just lump everything together. we put an m in there lgbtmq muslims they put black people in the black black and brown people i remember when i was i remember when i was super woke and there'd be a story like that where it was like muslims are fighting with gay people and i was like i don't know whose side to take without getting in trouble. This is terrible.
Starting point is 01:16:47 What do I do? You make fun of yourself. That's what comedians do. I'm looking forward to seeing the MCA flag, the Muslim Christian atheist flag. No, it's the American Abrahamic Alliance. All inclusive. At some point, you've got to represent yourself.
Starting point is 01:17:03 Forget about what color it is because you're just a human and be your best and speak your mind. There you go. There are many gay people who don't like groomers. That's right. There should be. This shouldn't be controversial, you maniacs. Well, so this is why I say when someone comes out and says that groomer is a slur against all LGBTQ people, that's the pedo walking up to the like.
Starting point is 01:17:24 Okay, let's do another analogy. There's a creepy pedo guy looking at kids and looking at his lips, and you say, hey, you pedo, you get away from those kids. And he walks over to a group of gay people and goes,
Starting point is 01:17:33 that guy's making fun of us. Right, right. And then they go, hey, don't make fun of us. I think an even more realistic analogy is like when a teacher starts talking to kids about things that aren't appropriate to discuss with kids.
Starting point is 01:17:46 And telling them to keep it a secret from their parents. And then online, the woke folk defend it. Yeah, it's messed up because they're using the badge of teacher to hide behind because if they did it at a public park, they'd get arrested. Especially if they were licking their lips like all of Tim's
Starting point is 01:18:01 pedos were in his analogies. I'm using an extreme example of talking to a kid about his sex. Let me just, if you go to one of these schools and take the book Genderqueer off the bookshelf and then walk up to a child, open it, and read it, you're going to prison. Yeah, I... Isn't that weird? Guys, when we were growing up, maybe not you, Taylor, but we just... No, probably.
Starting point is 01:18:24 ...feared our teachers. We didn't know anything. For all I knew, probably. We just feared our teachers. We didn't know anything. For all I knew, my English teacher lived in a shack. They just had these haunting backstories where you would kind of hear rumors about maybe where they lived. If you ever saw them out in public, you would just run in the other direction.
Starting point is 01:18:40 At no point would my grizzled shop teacher be like, so I was laying next to a man. Like he would have been arrested. He would have been arrested. I don't know about you, but we didn't have a whole lot of respect for our teachers. I feared them, dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:56 I mean, I wasn't scared of my teachers, but I didn't know much about their personal lives. Right. Right. That's true, too. The only thing I knew about one teacher was that she got married because her name changed oh yeah or like a teacher gets pregnant obviously you're gonna know that yeah and we were like hey look teacher's pregnant and then she like stopped but she wasn't like you want to know what position we did to conceive he's like no no no i'm so little the 10 year olds would go what's a position just let me tell you. Right. No. Yeah. Let me draw it. And then don't tell your parents.
Starting point is 01:19:26 Creepy. Yeah. Do you think, so honestly, your opinion, do you think that it is them being legit groomer, pedophile, blah, blah, blah? Or do you think some of them are just trying to show how progressive they are and make like a thing about it? No. Some are groomers and some are trying to indoctrinate kids because they know they don't have any of their own.
Starting point is 01:19:50 But also, regardless of the intention, it has the same effect. Oh, yeah. No, no, no. Neither answer was correct. They're both very bad, to be clear. I'm just curious about what you guys thought. The left doesn't have kids. They have yours.
Starting point is 01:20:02 So because they're not having kids, they're sterilizing their kids and they're aborting their kids, this country is 20, 30 years away from being Christian conservative, hardcore. And it's really crazy because this country went from, like, you know, obviously you go way back in time. It's much more traditionalist for obvious reasons. It's back in time. But there was rampant racism, literal slavery, and dowries and things like that. And then over time, these things change, and there's progress and liberalism. Obama is American. Then there used to be, even with the First Amendment, you couldn't swear.
Starting point is 01:20:35 Yeah. Even with the First Amendment, you couldn't say naughty words. Yeah. You couldn't wear certain clothes. And then we became very liberal, but then we became so liberal that liberals started killing their own children. Went too far in one direction, and that's going to result in a flow back in the other direction. I don't think it's going to get more conservatives. Yeah, I don't think it's going to be Christian, though, because like what you were saying earlier, Jamie, about like you got excised from the left, but you didn't want to go full right. Like you just wouldn't let yourself like people are just going to say, OK, now I believe that cult.
Starting point is 01:21:09 Like some people will. Some people might. But people in reality don't want to be in a cult well and what's what's so insidious about people on the left is they they will and have said that i already have that i'm already a right-wing grifter and whatever and you guys have actually had conversations with me and it's like no man i just ask questions and i'm friends with people who don't share my exact worldview and i'm pretty happy i'll see like some people they're like getting disenfranchised with reality and you know when things can start to go haywire like if you see the stand you know people become religious but they're like you know what yeah now i believe in jesus and i'm like wait hold on this is like a lifelong exploration. You don't get traumatized and then all of a sudden now you have a new religion.
Starting point is 01:21:50 This is actually interesting. I pulled up the stats. And if you simplify the stats on is the United States becoming more Christian, they say no. Because the country is 75% Christian now. But by 2050, it'll be 63%. And you look at it, it's actually a 20 million uh individual increase so there will be a massive increase in the number of christians in this country however there is going to be they say a larger increase in non-christians there's going to be about 90 or
Starting point is 01:22:20 so million new population of which only 20 million are Christians, reducing the overall percentage. Where are those non-Christians coming from if non-Christians abort their kids? Well, we're seeing about a million people per year coming from illegal immigration or more. So I wonder if that's the issue. However, many people coming from Latin American countries are also Christian, so I don't understand their numbers. My belief that I don't know if it answers your question is that religion's getting fun. Now that we can see cosmic microwave background radiation, we're like
Starting point is 01:22:52 whoa, is God actually quantifiable? This is an opportunity for a generation to have a non-organized just a kind of a belief structure about the essence of reality. It is much more fun to where the majority of people who have found God at a later age, it's not that I've met.
Starting point is 01:23:09 It's not, oh, I went to jail or, oh, I was raised going to church. It's like, well, I did DMT. And you're like, yeah, there it is, man. I think there's a lot of secular people, too, who have similar values as Christians in some ways without believing all the religious stuff. Yeah. Our country is based on the tenets of Christianity, so it's through most people in the society.
Starting point is 01:23:29 We talk about this quite a bit, that the atheists of the 90s, 2000s, 2010s don't realize they completely operate on a Christian moral framework, but it's because they don't know anything about Christianity. They think that their morality is inherent to them because another issue, they've probably never traveled to other countries that don't have those moral frameworks. Yeah. I mean, I kind of to what Taylor was saying, you know, I know for me, I think there are a lot of people in my generation, especially that, you know, you'd say I'm spiritual, but
Starting point is 01:24:01 not religious. Right. And so they saw what happened with the Catholic church or they were raised religious and they rebelled against their parents, but they never really let go of spirituality or they never became a full fledged atheist. And one of the things that I always sort of secretly admired about conservatives is when you looked at their words about what they stood for,
Starting point is 01:24:24 it was like family values, God, hard work. And I was like, why are we against those things? That sounds good, right? That sounds great. Like, why was the left, like, what were our words? It was like weed, gentrification. Like, it was just a bummer, right? And now I think that because the left has gone so far,
Starting point is 01:24:44 cuckoo bananas, I think that a lot of people, a lot of secular people who, you know, ran out of Richard Dawkins books to read. I think a lot of people are kind of craving that morality or those family values that are predominantly seen on the right or within some kind of religious framework. I think that's normal, normal too as you get older. Yeah. Is it because we're closer to death and it's like, hey, just in case I'm wrong. Well, you also – you got more perspective. I'm going to start praying. I think it – Dennis Prager brought up a really great point.
Starting point is 01:25:17 He says – what does he call it? Cut flower. Yeah. Cut flower culture. Culture. Is that what he called it? That's what he called it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:22 So you have a flower. It's beautiful. You cut it from its roots and it beautiful, but eventually withers and dies. And that's what I think is happening. You had a period where, well, I mean, for a long time, this country was like 100% Christian, basically. Right. Right. And that had a lot of bad things about it.
Starting point is 01:25:40 Culturally, there was a lot of rigid, very rigid rigid like you know george carlin getting arrested for swearing and stuff like that right then eventually you get some atheism but it's still based on moral values from christians so they start saying things like i don't think god's real but i still agree the innocent should not be prosecuted for crimes they may not have committed unless it's proven beyond a reasonable doubt and then you're like where does that come from and they don't know right because they didn't study the bible and they didn't learn about the history of blackstone's formulation and where it came from and all the stuff and then you realize like hey wait a minute china doesn't have that like in china they just lock you up and they torture you if you oppose the government now that's communism
Starting point is 01:26:19 you know that's not the traditional chinese values but the point is those people are not raised with the same moral values we have. Interesting. Now we're starting to see what happens when the atheist children of parents who don't know where their values come from raise children. And they don't know how to bring those values to those kids. And those kids are the current millennial generation. Well, my parents did it right man where i wasn't raised religious my dad is a jew and my mom is christian-ish and we didn't go to church and we
Starting point is 01:26:53 didn't go to synagogue but we celebrated passover and hanukkah and christmas and you know they would always tell us about our our relatives and our ancestors and all this stuff but they believed in god and believed in the framework of just being a good person and so they didn't raise us anti-religious you know what i mean like we didn't go to church we didn't get burnt out on that but it was still hey be a good person we're not alone we don't know but we're not alone and i think that's why i never could go that like full throttle, hateful atheist who just spends all day on, you know, Reddit calling religious people dumb. I think that's why I still always sought out something because you don't know. You can't be, if you say you're an atheist,
Starting point is 01:27:39 you're just as fundamentalist. Like even when I thought i was an atheist i called myself agnostic because i don't know if i called myself an atheist and god came crashing down to the ceiling and was like i'm real i wouldn't be like no i've read sam harris i'd be like all right man i guess i was wrong which makes me agnostic what's funny is um looking at these polls about the future of christianity i wonder how they make the determination because you can't predict culture. If you could, make your investments now. You'll be rich. I think they underestimate the cultural
Starting point is 01:28:12 shift that DMT particularly will bring upon atheists. It's possible that Christianity is going to reform. The idea of Christ is like the anointed one. Jesus just happened to be the Christ of that time. He was anointed by God, but we can all be anointed
Starting point is 01:28:27 by God. I believe that anyway that it's flowing through us all. Yeah. I mean, I made that DMT thing as kind of a joke, but am I allowed to talk about me doing drugs on YouTube? Hell yeah. Well, we talk about DMT all the time. We just don't advocate for people. You're not supposed to do drugs on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:28:44 I had a terrible experience where I found God. No, I, during COVID, or right before lockdown, my cat died and my girlfriend left in the same week. And it was awful. And I was infinitely more upset about the cat than the girl because he was the best. Oh, and she would see me crying and be like, don't worry. We'll still be friends. And I was like, oh, I'm crying about the cat. But I'd be like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:12 We'll still be friends. And so over Valentine's Day, it was my first Valentine's Day I'd ever spent alone. I was like, I'm going to take mushrooms for the first time since high school. And everyone was like, that is the worst idea I've ever heard. And they're like, you're going to be alone on Valentine's Day. And guess what? I wasn't alone. I was with everyone and God.
Starting point is 01:29:32 And I, for the longest time, I considered myself agnostic. I considered, but people have these experiences. People on their deathbed, again, when they are given by medical professionals, there are doctors who do this. People on their deathbed who again, when they are given by medical professionals, there are doctors who do this. People on their deathbed who are so scared of death, they are with a doctor, with a professional, given psilocybin, and they no longer fear death. They do see something. It does open something up in you. What if like right before people died, we just blasted them with DMT?
Starting point is 01:30:01 It would be the best. They say when you die, your brain releases DMT, right? Like a ton of it. What if they were just like, tenfold, baby. Intravenous drip. I'm putting that in my will. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:30:13 We're all putting that in our wills. Yo, I think you should be able to- I want that in my employment contract too. I think when you're like, certifiably like about to die, you should be able to just like- Yeah, right to choose, I think. Is that what they call?
Starting point is 01:30:24 Well, look, right to try. Right to try right to try is like if you're dying you can try a drug i'm saying no like if the doctor's like you got an hour left you should be able to be like i can have any drug i want yeah it's like a prisoner's last meal before execution they just give you a list which is like acid psilocybin dmt mescaline it's like yeah man and you decide like weeks before like hey if the moment comes yeah and i turn the light green by like oh yeah i'm able to do you could do it like an ice cream shop you could be like can i do half dmt half psilocybin they could be like yeah buddy it's your it's your it's your special day your party and they monitor your heart rate yep monitor your brain waves or
Starting point is 01:31:00 whatever and they're like well someone's like give me the full blast of acid, DMT, and psilocybin. Give me the Joe Rogan treatment is what they call that. I saw Rogan Punch. Alexandria Cortez tweeted out last week that she had somehow included in the NDAA something about legalizing psilocybin and MDMA for people, like patients and stuff. And I got mixed feelings. Wait, did you really do that? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:26 It's on Twitter, at least last week, I think. That is going to become more and more popular. I mean, look, man, these politicians, the second they see money is behind it. You know, Tim Ferriss, a lot of guys like that in sort of like the tech self-help podcast world have done a great job about talking about psilocybin for PTSD, for depression, for all this stuff. And there's a new, Michael Pollan has been great. There's a new documentary on Netflix that comes out this month all about the medicinal
Starting point is 01:31:53 uses of psilocybin by Michael Pollan, who his book is called, I think it was the number one bestseller, How to Change Your Mind, was his book all about psychedelics. And there is going to be a real movement for once politicians see that there is money behind it. We saw it with weed legalization. Suddenly, they're all going to be little Jerry Garcia's and they're all going to be like, yeah, man, like I'm totally for it. Yeah, I think that a fear of psychedelics is that it can make people so radical that
Starting point is 01:32:21 they'll flip the system on its head. That I want. But the system is breaking so hard right now that we need to shake it. And people will see there is money involved. We can save our economy with creativity. I got an idea for like a short film where it's like a dude who does DMT. And they say you blast off, right? You like perceive another dimension or something.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Yeah. But you're still tethered to your body. So you like come out of your body and you're to the dimension. But then you snap back once it wears off right but then eventually when he's blasting off he's like something happens with an earthquake or whatever and like his house falls down and he dies separating himself from his body and now he's trapped in like the machine elf world because there's no way to go back because normally when you die like your body is there it doesn't go there but now you're here and then you're trapped yeah so the way the spirit detaches from the body because of the dmt infusion it's spinning maybe differently than the than a
Starting point is 01:33:16 spirit that is detached without the dmt you know like what is a spirit we think of it as like a magnetic i think that sometimes magnetic field but there's more to it. It's like it's smaller than that. You see these spinners, these subatomic billions and trillions of spinning protons around black holes and things, and why are they spinning that way? That could be altered, or at least that'd be a fun side.
Starting point is 01:33:36 I volunteer as tribute. I'll do it. Let's make some films. Let's make some short films. We'll get to it. I would love to. But we'll read your super chats for now. Yeah, let's do it.
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Starting point is 01:37:01 Otherwise, I'll just keep ranting about why I'm so excited about Parallel Economy. That's pretty great. All right. Smoothie Card says, Tim, my wife and I started a business called Smoothie Cards to teach people about nutrition. you got otherwise i'll just keep ranting about why i'm so excited about parallel economy all right smoothie card says tim my wife and i started a business called smoothie cards to teach people about nutrition and we're selling them on amazon now it's been lots of fun seeing you guys get on the health train keep it the good work i'll look that up absolutely nutrition is so important especially for mental health nutrition and working out and somehow the left became the party of like
Starting point is 01:37:22 during covid like we're against going outdoors and working out and it drove so became the party of like during COVID like we're against going outdoors and working out and it drove so many of my jujitsu friends away from it. It is huge. I was depressed this weekend. I made myself eat healthy and work out and I was better. That's right. Very much helps. Alright. 3QH says, hey Tim
Starting point is 01:37:39 I agree we have to make culture to win the culture war. My MAGA band drops red pilled music here, and I started a show at Red Pill Fight Club. Very, very cool. Mirik Shlong says, Tim, can you bring MTG back on and ask her why she voted against expanding VA benefits
Starting point is 01:37:55 for GWOT vets who were affected by burn pits, please? I support her, but the issue affects me directly, and I want to know the details behind it. Why? No, I got to be honest. She she's gonna have a reason i guarantee you when you when when you look at like look we can talk about her tweets and her facebook posts and roll her eyes but what like thomas massey had this right he voted out he voted no on something he's like the only one and everyone's like whoa wait a minute and then he immediately comes out on twitter and he's like this is exactly what happened and you go oh you're like here was
Starting point is 01:38:27 the other thing that they inserted in the bill that has nothing to do with the bill yep ricardo santo says tim have legal man from the quash podcast he's a lawyer destroying the illusion of constitutional republic and promoting decentralized systems i like the idea i like the idea redgo says drink idea. Redgo says, drink a shot for every mention of Civil War, Trump, and cult. I said Civil War once just now when I read that
Starting point is 01:38:49 and twice just now when I said it again, referencing that I said it. All a few times. So twice. Yeah. And we said cult several times. Yeah, several times.
Starting point is 01:38:58 Yeah, I got that one along. Today was a big cult show, but that was because of my past. So I take the blame. Jamie will take all the shots. There we go. I'm very drunk. No.
Starting point is 01:39:09 I have not drank at all. All right. Steve Self. How can existing Tim Kiss members switch from PayPal to Parallel Economy? Do we have to cancel and sign up again? So for those that didn't hear it, I did just mention it. No. I don't think so. Let me uh let me circle back with
Starting point is 01:39:28 the team i'll circle back and we'll figure out i think next month it might automatically just transport you over i'm not sure if not and you just want to support us and make sure you can cancel and re-sign up or something that might not be a good idea i don't know it might be burdensome on our end, but I'm not entirely sure. It may be cool. It would probably end up giving us a little bit extra money because, you know.
Starting point is 01:39:50 So let me circle back to make sure because I don't want people to have to spend extra money for something they've already paid for. Tim Jake says, I worked the DoD space mission for 27 years. The level of ignorance your Friday guest displayed concerning how things operate in space was absolutely mind-numbing.
Starting point is 01:40:05 That's Alex. He was trolling you guys. He said at the beginning and the middle of the episode he loves Andy Kaufman. He said, I don't trust the government. And then he immediately started saying, but Barack Obama said it was real. So just rewatch it and thinking maybe he's trolling. Yeah, he might be trolling you. He's a brilliant genius.
Starting point is 01:40:22 He's a maniac. Andy Kaufman's a genius. He might have been trolling you. He's a brilliant genius. He's a maniac. Andy Kaufman's a genius. Yeah. He might have been trolling you. But yeah, it was still fun anyway to have like a moon landing debate. Oh, so good. We never get to debate that. I would love to actually debate Joe on that because I don't know if he's still – wasn't he like a big moon landing denier?
Starting point is 01:40:36 I think he was. I believe there was a phase. I think he went back on it, but I'm not sure. It's Alex Stein. In case you're wondering who we're talking about, look at the Alex Stein episode from Friday. I just want to say when people are like, you can't go through the Van Allen radiation belt, it's like, you can just, you know, if they don't care about you.
Starting point is 01:40:52 You can jump through the fire. Yeah, like, yo, the government doesn't care about you. Oh, yeah, they test on... Right, if they wanted to go to the moon, they'd be like, sure, it's safe, no problem. Let's put some poor people in that shuttle first. I'm sure the astronauts sign, like, whatever happens, happens. They said they were seeing stars and sparkles in their eyes.
Starting point is 01:41:12 That's when radiation is bombarding your optic nerve. So it's like... Oh boy, that's bad news. Yeah, yeah. I read about that and I was reading some conspiracy about it and then I read that statement where they were like, it was amazing seeing, like, the flashes and I was like, I think you guys are getting blasted, man. You guys ever see stars?
Starting point is 01:41:31 I get hit in the head one time. Oh, no, they have stars. That was a good one. Stars? No, no, I mean like get hit in the head or just see like a bunch of stars. Yeah, like on a cartoon. Once. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:39 It was like a cartoon. All right. Steve Bordlame says, hey, Tim, these documentaries you keep talking about, will you have them on Blu-ray or DVD on your website when you're done? Also, I would do Mushrooms with the Graphene Guru anytime. I know he'll keep the spiders away. I don't think we have a plan for like Blu-ray DVD. I mean, maybe we'll put them up on Amazon or something.
Starting point is 01:41:57 But they're very preliminary right now. We've got some work being done on a Federal Reserve documentary talking about like how it started, what it currently does, and what proposed solutions to the problems are. I'm excited for that. It will probably be on the website. I'm very excited for it. Also, if Silas Simon is involved, I would advise fasting. I'm not a shaman, but just –
Starting point is 01:42:15 I would advise set and setting, which is don't go do it and go to Hooters. I would be introspective about it. I would do it with someone who knows what they were doing. I would put on good music. I would be out in nature somewhere safe. I would not be in a car or anything like that. Triton 54 says, Taylor,
Starting point is 01:42:36 Cast Castle has been on point the past two episodes. Glad to see you found a home at Timcast. Great to see your creativity on screen. The vlog is really top notch. Long live Chicken Ian. Thanks for your support. I have see your creativity on screen. The vlog is really top-notch. Long live Chicken Ian. Thanks for your support. I have a lot of fun filming for the vlog. I'm excited that we're going to have a little bit more freedom
Starting point is 01:42:51 to say whatever we want to, and now that it's going to be on Timcast.com. Oh, I guess that the announcements have already been made. I thought you already were... Oh, no. Let's run with this. So what's happening? Wait, did I just steal the beans?
Starting point is 01:43:07 Did I just let them build up? Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, my gosh. I love it. I was mad at you for getting all the credit for the vlog, and that person didn't even mention me. I thought, okay, to be fair, someone told me earlier that you mentioned it in a segment earlier today.
Starting point is 01:43:21 I didn't realize that. The telephone works weird. I mean, we can just. So what's happening sorry um we are going to be well you know i'll keep it simple because we have an episode like we have a full explanation tomorrow at youtube.com slash cast castle but we're basically increasing production increasing quality but reducing frequency. And simple version is we're going to try and scale this up for a weekly sitcom slash vlog, kind of like it is. But the concern we've had is that it's a little rough around the edges.
Starting point is 01:43:58 People have really liked the direction it's been going, but it's kind of like we know it's a bit amateurish so we were like well maybe we should stop trying to treat it like a like a mix between what what youtube was with jake paul and what 30 rock was and just go for it as a weekly but try and we'll have like real elements that are fun like when we taylor and i played skate it was just us hanging out and it was kind of fun and funny people really know that was fake when he beat me in skate yes that yeah sure sage that. Yeah, sure. But yeah, I think making it a show. I feel incredibly embarrassed for telling the news I didn't
Starting point is 01:44:32 realize. The tip of the spear. No, we're going to run with it. And we're going to use it to promote. Which is, the comments we've gotten have been so cool. Because what we were trying was something super weird and different and the the the hardcore fans who write me on twitter about it every day who reference the
Starting point is 01:44:51 you know literally i've had people in the street come up to me and be like guns like because of me and tim's one bit about it that's exactly the kind of community we want to build and by putting it by making it on our own terms and not youtubes we just get to make it edgier and we get to build and by putting it by making it on our own terms and not youtubes we just get to make it edgier and we get to talk about whatever we want we wrote some really funny jokes we can't do on youtube no and they're not offensive jokes they're like vaccine so yeah and like that kind of conversations are like trump and it's like okay youtube won't allow that or if they if we do it they'll flag us they They'll knock us down. I've already written a vaccine and Hunter Biden joke into the pilot.
Starting point is 01:45:32 I know. And it's like, and I'm so excited. It's going to be like, obviously we still want to avoid swearing. We want it like, like the jokes we had that YouTube won't allow. They're not raunchy and they're not, they're not like hate speech or anything like that. Like they don't offend that, like they don't offend anybody, don't offend anybody but youtube's delicate sensibilities in the world health organization and the democrats and it's just stupid but the channel will still exist but it will i'll tell you another thing that happened we did a chicken ian cartoon and it gets like 60 000 views and i'm like it's because a singular bit is easy to share and it's fun to watch yeah and so we need to have those who want to watch a full show, who want to pay to watch a full show,
Starting point is 01:46:07 support it because otherwise it's too expensive. And then we want to do bits that do better on the YouTube channel to be shared. I don't want to get too much more into it. It's all exciting. The full explainer where we're all talking about it is up tomorrow at youtube.com slash castcastle.
Starting point is 01:46:23 Oops, but back to that comment. I do feel very welcome here and I'm grateful to be here. And I feel like I got lucky having been canceled and it all worked out for me. Yeah, there you go. I couldn't have ended up any place better, honestly. It's really communication is key. Yeah. It's the beginning of great, great things.
Starting point is 01:46:41 All right. Let's see. Jerk Off Juggernaut says, I tried to make a point between Lauren Southern and Milo and YouTube didn't want it. And I said, nothing bad. Just watch her latest video. Oh, I saw part of that.
Starting point is 01:46:53 Did you guys know what's her video? She did like a three-hour expose on her experience being on the right and about, it's not all unicorns and rainbows. Like people are dirty in every area you go. And let me tell you my experience. Dude, every time I go to a new place, so far, this has been fine over here.
Starting point is 01:47:11 But I remember, I dropped out of high school and I was like, everyone's so mean. And then my first retail job was with a bunch of housewives. And I'm like, oh, they're doing the same stuff. And then I was like, okay, comedy. They're a bunch of artists.
Starting point is 01:47:22 And I'm like, no, they're gossipy monsters too. And then I'm like, I'll go back to music. And it's like the bottom line is you just have to be as good of a person as possible and be true to yourself and find your tribe and find your people because, man, there are trash monsters in every facet of life and you just got to find the good ones. All right. Kevin D says, the tweet is hilarious. What are you guys talking about? The left has lost its mind. Time to start treating them as such.
Starting point is 01:47:46 MTGFTW. Oh, that tweet. Oh, that tweet. No, look, look. Like I said, a lot of people are going to absolutely love MTG's tweet. I'll tell you my perspective. I'm reading the tweet again. I try to de-escalate, right?
Starting point is 01:48:00 Yep. And so when I see tweets like that or I see like Alex Stein my initial reaction is like let's try and yes simmer things down but I also feel like I don't know if that matters anymore it matters
Starting point is 01:48:13 it matters that we push the envelope and that we acknowledge when we do yeah maybe well I also think like you can't you can't you can't give up
Starting point is 01:48:23 because I think that's the reason you have reasonable people who tweet me and the audience you have is because you can admit when something is funny. You can admit when something is extreme. You not being beholden to that I think is a good thing. Yeah, actually, when we had Alex Stein on a Friday because he had said big booty Latina to ASC. And I was like, yeah, like what right does she really even have to be upset with someone? Or I was like, people really shouldn't be harassing our senators on the steps of the building. And he was like, actually, yeah, they should.
Starting point is 01:48:54 Or whatever happened, he defended her. They should be confronting her. I was like, she shouldn't have the right to like yell out, hey, be upset about that. And he's like, yeah, she should have the right to do that, be upset with what I did. All right. The one free man says, Chase, she should have the right to do that. Be upset with what I did. And I thought, actually, yeah. All right, the one free man says, Chase Bank canceled my accounts without warning. Not frozen.
Starting point is 01:49:12 Wife stranded 120 miles away, no food or gas. Couldn't pay employees. Over a week to fix. No access to hundreds of thousands. Whoa. The livelihoods of over 20 people still no answer or reason. That's insane. Scary social credit score future. Oh my gosh. It's coming. Scary social credit score future.
Starting point is 01:49:25 Oh my gosh. It's coming. Parallel economy. Yes. Parallel economy. Yes. All right. Eric Wallen says, the height study needs a follow-up.
Starting point is 01:49:36 Lefties scored low in purity as well, but if you live through the pandemic, you saw massive authoritarian purity signal from the left. Yeah. That would be interesting. I don't know how you track for the left yeah that would be interesting i don't know how you you track for that but that would be interesting all right courtesy says with enough faith we can walk through the fire completely unscathed just like shadrach meshach and shadrach meshach and abednego oh who's that those are the guys in the story of daniel and they talk about
Starting point is 01:50:04 how they went into the fire and God saved them. And the king who threw them into the fire looked in and saw them just standing there, praising God. It was really interesting. Did Homie and the Bible get Me Too'd as well? I know, right? Apparently. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 01:50:17 And the Lord saith, this Me Too is BS. I stand for naught. Amen. Jezebel.com, if he's not new, this. It's actually in there. It's like, it's actually in there. It's like, no one's ever read this page before. Crazy. It's one page.
Starting point is 01:50:30 I was going to. Yeah. Michael Calderon says, shout out to the IRL billboard on Halstead and Chicago Avenue. Any thought on making a Spanish version or dubbed version of your shows? Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. It's still there. Ooh. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:50:40 Well, you know, like sometimes they put up billboards and then never take them down. Yeah. I wonder if they took that to a... They just became a forever billboard. That rules. I love it. The company is really trying to get us through Times Square stuff again, and I want to. But, yo, it's expensive.
Starting point is 01:50:56 You can do it. Like, we got a deal, I guess, because it was like the end of COVID. And so the deal we got was like, okay, yeah, we could do this. And now it's like, here's the next one. And I was like, okay, yeah, we could do this. And now it's like, here's the next one. And I'm like, no way. If we have something to promote. Well, I mean, we can always promote this show, but we got to figure it out. We're doing ads on Facebook and Instagram right now. I was going to, and I think I just submitted, I've been trying to get ads on Spotify forever, but Spotify has rejected every single one for some reason.
Starting point is 01:51:24 That's weird. The first, it was like, you're not allowed to promote other platforms and i was like oh okay then so i i changed it uh and changed the audio and they were like you're not allowed to promote other platforms and i was like what my website i can't do an ad for a web okay so i took it out and then there's like the picture had something in it and it's like bro we're getting so many letters about rogan can you just let us just take a break it's just crazy it's like i'm gonna pay you to promote your platform i guess right right whatever they're so gross all these but um i want to do reddit ads too but reddit's really weird and confusing we should do rumble ads yeah yeah but to get people to go to the website front top front center on rumble for like a week or two weeks or something.
Starting point is 01:52:08 We'll see what happens. All right. David A. says, do not try and walk through the fire. That's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth. There is no fire. Then you'll see that it's not the fire that burns, only your enemy. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:52:22 Wow. That's the matrix. Interesting. I don't remember that. It's been a long time. You cannot Whoa! Wow. That's the matrix. Interesting. I don't remember that. It's been a long time. He says, you cannot bend the spoon. That's impossible. Instead, you have to realize the truth. There is no spoon. There is no spoon. All right.
Starting point is 01:52:36 Ona Comey says, have you seen Tom Fitton's Twitter post about Congress pushing new marriage legislation, including group marriages or any kind of marriage legalized by any state. Any kind, huh? Like sister-wife stuff? Interesting.
Starting point is 01:52:51 Sister-wives? What is it? Like when someone has multiple wives. Oh, okay. She means sexy. That's the word she was looking for. What? Sister-wives, huh? All right. What do we got here de bronx says can people who advocate for sex changes of children still complain about clitorectomy among young girls in muslim
Starting point is 01:53:13 countries no they can't cannot nope wow i've never heard that i mean the orville did an episode this season about detransitioning a kid and the bad guy was the one who wanted the kid transition it was kind of like i think they were trying to play it both ways somehow but like the gist of the story is they transitioned a baby because that was normal in their culture and then when the kid grew up and said this is not right i don't want to be this way they reversed it but the the tradition on the planet was to trans your kids. So they were like, you're backwards, you're traditions. You need to abandon them.
Starting point is 01:53:50 And I was like, Seth MacFarlane basically made the traditionalists the one who want to transgender their kids. It was weird. Yeah. It was wild. Yep. And I don't know. It certainly was not woke. I wish I could understand the way his mind works for seven seconds or something.
Starting point is 01:54:14 Yeah, in the end, it's a little girl who is transitioning to be a boy and then doesn't want it. And it's like, this doesn't feel right. And then they were like, no, you can't do it. And they have to violate regulations to undo the surgery or whatever. And then they do. And then the traditional traditionalist the alien race they're all male so that's why they force trans their kids so the one's like this is wrong and he leaves and then he's like why can't you give up your backwards transition traditions or whatever seth mcfarland he's like let's take an idea now that idea is a hammer and here's another idea
Starting point is 01:54:38 this idea is a nail now the whole room's on fire. Yeah. And you're like, oh, what's happening, Seth? In all seriousness, though, the stories of detransitioners are really tragic. And then a lot of times they don't get much support. They get banned. Negative support. Yeah. All right. Frankie Perez says, Tim, my wife and I love your show. It would be wicked to have Isaac Butterfield on the show.
Starting point is 01:54:59 He's an Australian YouTube commentator on Society. That would be fun to watch on this platform. Oh, because he states that? I don't know. Gotta look him he stateside? I don't know. Otherwise, I don't know how you get him out there. Yeah, sorry. To the United States. C'est difficile. Alright, let's see what we got here.
Starting point is 01:55:13 Let's grab the super chat. David C. Cronk Sr. says, I never hear Ian call Islam a cult. Islam is a cult. There he is. There he is. That's our boy. Judo Eagles says, a Christian couple doesn't guarantee a Christian child.
Starting point is 01:55:29 Of course. So what happened to that Christian couple that they did not transfer their values to their children? Well, typically what I've seen happen with Christianity is that kids who are born into it tend to gravitate away from it, but then if their parents taught them critical thinking and reasoning,
Starting point is 01:55:44 they come around to some form of faith. That's exactly what happened with me and a lot of my peers we weren't just christian we were raised homeschooled as well so we had like a serious layer of what we felt was bigotry for a long time and then we came back around but um jewish couples like religious jews tend to have their kids adopt their religious values don't they like i don't know the tendency yeah i'm not sure yeah i mean i think in some cases i was the first generation of my family to be raised pretty much secular but i think that a lot of the values just like cultural ones and coming from my parents grandparents probably passed down to me anyways even though i wasn't involved in religious stuff yeah i think you meet a lot more secular Jews
Starting point is 01:56:26 or just sort of... We're all just kind of chill about it. And so there's less... There's a lot of religious Jews too. No, no, no, of course. And on different levels. But like for me... Jews are really diverse in that way.
Starting point is 01:56:39 I grew up in sort of just like, you know, East Coast, artsyy middle class, whatever. We were a lot of the Jews that I knew, most of the Jews I knew were so relaxed about it that the kids just sort of liked it and didn't want to rebel. Whereas I think a lot of, you know, Christianity, it's like very heavy handed, like you are going to religious school like right away. And so it makes more sense that you would rebel against that. And I think just the same as kids who are raised religious kind of venturing out of that, and whether they come back to it or not,
Starting point is 01:57:16 there are kids who aren't raised religious who end up becoming really interested in religion as they get older. Right. They can go both ways and Yeah. And everything in between. All right. John Galt says, Tim, pretty sure Prager's model was cut flower morality. Morality cut off from the biblical principles and God will eventually wither and die. And I agree with that because I think that's what we're starting to see.
Starting point is 01:57:37 I think we're seeing a generation raised without any access to that information at all. And all of a sudden they're narcissists. They're completely ego driven. And all of a sudden, they're narcissists. They're completely ego-driven. And I wonder about it. I do. I mean, for me, I grew up in Chicago, completely urban, secular, atheist, liberal. But first, I don't know, 10 years of my life, we were Catholic. And then we stopped.
Starting point is 01:58:01 And then I went to public school and saw a whole other world and a whole other view. But I did to say that I feel like the flaw in cut flower ethics is that it seems to be working for a little while. And you're like, this is fine. This is working. And then you get to where we are now. And you're like, this is not working anymore. This is dying, unfortunately. Is it when people hold up the idea rather than embody the idea? Well, it's when you disconnect it from its roots. So you tend to rule out some of the structure that's underlying it, and it's very dangerous because, like Dennis says, it appears to work for a little while
Starting point is 01:58:52 but ultimately it ends up failing, wilting, dying. That's sad. Somebody said... Where is it? I just saw it. Valdo follows his Tim, your Times Square ad is on a Netflix Resident Evil TikTok with over 3.5 million views
Starting point is 01:59:07 sold in advertising I'm going to look it up that's the reality of Times Square advertising and why it's so effective and why everybody wants it because we've had verified blue checks with 100k followers be like yo I'm in Times Square and then right there big and bold on the picture is like
Starting point is 01:59:23 our ad and that's why you do it so it's very very effective yes so we'll take a look at that Raymond G. Maga Stanley Jr. III says shout out shout out to Taylor
Starting point is 01:59:33 welcome we are of the good thanks so we are really excited for the vlog stuff we've had a bunch of
Starting point is 01:59:41 really funny jokes we've you know pushed the envelope obviously we did the one where Seamus got the cake, the coming out cake. And we were like, it's edgy, it's a little on the edge, you know, but we're probably fine. And we've had other jokes, like I mentioned.
Starting point is 01:59:53 The easiest way to explain it is like Trump stuff or vaccine stuff, where it's like, okay, YouTube would never allow that. Even as a joke, they wouldn't care about the context. Family-friendly, not offensive, doesn't matter. So we're really excited. But we're going to be able to launch with this show. There's more information coming tomorrow.
Starting point is 02:00:09 But I'll just say this. We're thinking it's going to be like Tuesdays at 7 p.m. on the website. And we're going to have it as a routine, ready to go. We're going to do promotions for it. And then – Maybe we were even talking about maybe doing like a poster pre-show with like some of the cast members, like or a watch along for some of them. That'd be fun. Big promotional stuff.
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Starting point is 02:02:35 iancrossland.net. Very fun, you guys. Great to have you, Taylor. Thanks for being so welcoming. I did. I found it. How do I find it? I sent it to you.
Starting point is 02:02:42 I found the TikTok thing with our billboard in it. It's a very cool ad for Resident Evil, and it's filmed in Times Square. And right up there in that left-hand corner is jitcast.com, and it has like almost a million views between the two videos that I'm looking at right now. But you can't really see the ad. You can't. But you can see part of it, and it's pretty big on TikTok. 712.6 thousand on one and 145 thousand.
Starting point is 02:03:06 That's a very cool ad. So you guys should check it out. If you have TikTok, if you've been compromised by the Chinese, I am Sour Patch Lids. You guys can follow me on Twitter and Minds.com at Sour Patch Lids, as well as Sour Patch Lids.me. I think we got lucky because when I was talking to the agency, they said the billboard we're on has been bought for the rest of the year. Oh, wow. Yeah. So normally this is what companies do they'll be like i want it for the whole year and they spend like 10 million dollars some ridiculous number we got it like super cheap it was expensive don't get me wrong but like relatively cheap i was like wow we can afford that and now they're coming back with like here's the numbers for the season and i'm like
Starting point is 02:03:40 but this is like the end of summer like Like in fall, well, what probably happened was COVID hit. Traffic was down and they were like, buy whatever. We'll lower the rates. So, you know, we'll see what happens. Everybody, thanks for being members. What does this say? Oh, here we go. Trevor Crump said Chicken City was live streaming in the children's section of the North Bend, Washington Twin Peaks Library.
Starting point is 02:04:01 That's so cool. Much better than Drag Queen Story Hour. Oh, my God. That's awesome. Right on. so cool. Much better than Drag Queen Story Hour. Oh my God. That's awesome. Right on. So I'll just give a shout out to all the people who work in schools,
Starting point is 02:04:09 teachers, whatever, libraries, community centers. If you need something to turn on, turn on Chicken City, man. ChickenCityLive.com. There's funny,
Starting point is 02:04:18 family-friendly cartoons that they get tremendous viewership. We're working on another one that's really, really funny. And thank you all so much for watching Chicken City and Cast Castle and Tales from the Inverted World. We're working on another one that's really, really funny. And thank you all so much for watching Chicken City and Cast Castle
Starting point is 02:04:27 and Tales from the Inverted World. We got more coming. We will see you all over at TimCast.com for the uncensored after-hours show at about 11. Thanks for hanging out. Bye, guys.
Starting point is 02:04:35 Thanks.

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