Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #579 - Twitter SUSPENDS Tim Pool For Calling Out Grooming, Tim Goes OFF w/Zuby

Episode Date: July 26, 2022

Tim, Ian, Mary of Pop Culture Crisis, and Lydia join rapper and commentator Zuby to break down Tim's Twitter punishment. the LGBT publication describing the term "groomer" as anti-LGBT, Zuby's grim an...alysis of what's happening in the US, Biden's assessment of the economic crisis, the new proposal that would give illegal migrants identification and allow them to travel, and Tim asks where everyone is. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 They got me. Twitter finally got me. I was out. I was doing work. I came back home and I looked on my computer screen and there was a thing because I had Twitter open and it said, you, you are being locked out of your account unless you delete the following tweet. This is why, let me tell you why this is crazy. I was calling out grooming and I don't not like willy nilly just call people groomers like some people have been doing. So there's one story where, uh, well, let me pause a second. We know that Twitter and Reddit have announced they'll ban the term groomer because they say that word applies to all LGBTQ people, which I have certainly argued against quite a bit. And so I had a tweet that was specifically
Starting point is 00:00:41 showing a group of adults showing sexual content to children. And I said, yes, they are grooming your kids. Twitter said I had to delete it. Now, I don't care about Twitter. Like, I really don't. And I mentioned this before about Jordan Peterson when he got suspended. I was like, just delete it and then start smacking, smack talking Twitter like crazy. And so, I mean, that's my attitude. Now I'll do a show talking about it. I will use the Twitter platform to ripple out the issue as much as I can. And then the Post Millennial wrote, Tim Pool goes to war with Twitter. Because I started pulling up as many stories as I could about Twitter having defended pedophiles. Numerous instances where they have done things, have been called out for, had panic meetings, and they keep doing it. So when I actually call out grooming,
Starting point is 00:01:27 legitimately, it wasn't like I was just arguing with some random person. I actually had a photo of people grooming children. They deleted that. I'm going to call them out. So we're going to talk all about that. We got a couple other stories. Obviously, Joe Biden, he's come out and said there won't be a recession. It's funny because they changed the definition of recession. Then Biden says there won't be one, which kind of means there probably will be one. So we've got that and we've got we got a bunch of other stories. I don't know whatever. I'm all riled up about the Twitter locking my account thing. And so we'll get in all that before we get started, though. We have an awesome sponsor. It's you. You guys, you're sponsoring us. Go to Timcast dot com.
Starting point is 00:02:02 We've got two things. Shout out the House House of Seven Ghosts, part two, Tales from the Inverted World. If you like true crime, paranormal, history, murder mystery stuff, you will like Tales from the Inverted World. These are like hour-long episodes, and we're putting up this full season on TimCast.com, exclusive for members. And we also have, for those that are more politically minded, Behind the Scenes in the Green Room with Carrie Lake. Carrie is amazing. I'm a big fan. I'm so excited when she when she says she's coming out and coming on the show. And we had a special green room episode with her. That's up at Timcast dot com right now on the front page. Members only really cool behind the scenes footage. Of course, we're also launching the Cast Castle show really soon, which is like a vamped up,
Starting point is 00:02:43 expanded version of the show. And no more PayPal. If you are a member through PayPal, you're fine. You're not going to do anything. But anybody who signs up now will be supporting Parallel Economy, which was co-founded by Dan Bongino, is also partly owned by Rumble. It is censorship resistant payment processing. The reason why I got on board with them, for one, I don't want to be censored. And two, I want to put my money where my mouth is. And I would ask you all to do the same. Stop giving your money to people who hate you.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Supporting us also supports Rumble because we use Rumble infrastructure. It supports parallel economy. And that means if more and more businesses start using parallel economy and more and more customers are processing transactions through parallel economy, then we can knock down PayPal and his other big tech Silicon Valley weirdo cult people and maybe start pushing back against the censorship. And I also have another really quick announcement. Shout out to everybody who helped made it possible. We got massive 96 foot billboards in Times Square, ranging from the totally legitimate
Starting point is 00:03:36 to the totally absurd. You can see here, it says Tim cast IRL is the quote on it is the best podcast. I, a 25 to 54-year-old male, have ever listened to, with a quote from Reactor, YouTube star who is, of course, my brother, plays a fictional character. And then we got Luke Ridkowski, of course, on the other side, parallel, 20 ad sets, 96 feet tall, sending a message. And that message includes a 96-foot-tall advertisement of my rooster. My rooster.
Starting point is 00:04:08 A very large ad of my rooster, my rooster, a very large ad of my rooster. And so I can tell everybody that I bought an ad in Times Square with a massive picture of my rooster, Roberto Jr. And yeah. And then we also have this funny quote, the best podcast in culture and news. Everybody agrees. At least that's what I was told from me. I got to be honest. I was worried about, you know, people were like, hey, but if you do stuff like that, it's got to be a real quote. And I was like, I just said it. I'm like, yeah, but I was actually told this, to be completely honest. I was actually told that everybody thinks it's the best. And so I said, we're going to run with it. So anyway, with all that being said, I'm really grateful to have a massive 96 foot billboard in Times Square of my rooster.
Starting point is 00:04:49 And joining us today to talk about that and more is the wonderful Zuby. What's up, guys? Happy to be back. Thank you for inviting me once again. Absolutely. Who are you, man, for people who may not be familiar? Yeah, sure. My name is Zuby.
Starting point is 00:05:01 I'm an independent rapper, author, host of the Real Talk with Zuby podcast. I also do coaching and public speaking. A lot of people know me for different things. People know me for breaking the British women's deadlift record several years ago, featured on a lot of great and wonderful podcasts, including this one right here. And yeah, all around someone who tries to uplift people positively, who does my best to seek the truth and speak the truth and keep it real and authentic. And a lot of people love me for that and some don't. Right on, man. This is going to be a lot of fun. We also have Mary Morgan of Pop Culture Crisis
Starting point is 00:05:35 hanging out. Well, hello. No, Mary, it's scary. So I'm back. I co-host Pop Culture Crisis on YouTube. We talk about movies, celebrities, all the entertainment news over there. It's more lighthearted content than IRL, I would say. So go over there and subscribe. We also, so in all seriousness, when people are like, why did you put a rooster on this billboard? It's actually a massive ad set for all of the website, which includes Mary. She's got a 96 foot billboard of herself in Times Square right now. Yeah. I kind of wish I had laser eyes in it. Laser eyes? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:08 We could have done that. We can switch it around. We can, well, it's a video. We can make it so that your eyes start glowing. We can just send them the file and we'll do it. We made one, yeah. Oh, okay. Well, I'll send it to them. I was just like, can we do that, though? Yeah. Okay, cool. All right. Well, we'll get that done. We got Ian. Hi, everyone. Ian Crosland here.
Starting point is 00:06:24 IanCrosland.net. Zuby, you got a book? That's hot. Yeah, man. I got two books. My children's book, The Candy Calamity, just came out beginning of this month with Brave Books. You can check that out at CandyCalamity.com or BraveBooks.com. And, of course, my previous book, Strong Advice, is available at TeamZuby.com. So, yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:06:42 I had the first fitness book for the grown-ups and now one for the youth. All right, I'm going to ask you a little bit about it later in the show. Yeah, man, would love to talk about it. Heck yeah, man. Yeah, I was enjoying reading that kid's book, so hopefully we can talk more about it later. Thank you guys for joining. All right, here's the first story from the post-millennial writing about me.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Very quickly. So I thought it was really funny because we were pulling up stories, and I'm like, what's the biggest news of the day? Is it the recession that we are in that Biden's denying? And then Lydia pulls up, breaking, breaking news. The biggest news. Tim Pool goes to war with Twitter
Starting point is 00:07:14 over groomer controversy. Journalist Tim Pool went to war with Twitter on Monday after the social media platform locked him out of his account for criticizing groomers. And I just went off. I pulled up a whole bunch of stories about Twitter protecting pedophiles. Not hard. They also blocked me from posting ads.
Starting point is 00:07:31 I got two emails. One said, your account is locked. And the other says, you are now ineligible to post advertisements on Twitter. Did you ever? Yeah, yeah. Oh. I did an ad run for the song we did, Will of the People. Got like 3 million views.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Well, okay. I was like, wow, that's actually better than YouTube. So youtube so hey maybe twitter's a good medium for putting this stuff not anymore apparently they said you're blocked forever they just said my account is now ineligible to run ads oh okay all because i had a tweet i can't even pull it up they make you delete it there was an image i saw and it showed adult men showing sexual things to children. Wow. Overtly. This was not an issue of like a dude reading a book. Yeah. This was an issue of, I think it was like a dude reading a book pointing to sexual things or something like that. I honestly can't remember. But like, you guys know me. People are like, Tim's a fence sitter. Why would he do something like this?
Starting point is 00:08:20 There are people on Twitter who will just call out overtly anyone as a groomer. Mine was like, I was making a literal point. They're like, hey, look at this. This is not just some dude reading a book. This is overt grooming of children. They locked me out and told me I had to delete it. Wow. So I don't think Twitter matters all that much.
Starting point is 00:08:42 To be honest, the amount of people who saw that tweet is in the few thousand, like tens of thousands. And I was like, who cares? Like, what's the impact on society going to of thousands. And I was like, who cares? Like, what's the impact on society going to be if a bunch of people like me on Twitter see this thing? I don't care. But what do I do on Twitter? I, you know, ish post and I make the blue checky journalists freak out when I post nonsense. That's more valuable. So the only people who actually see stuff on Twitter are journalists and I guess other commentators. So there's no real public value to it. So I just deleted it. But here's ultimately where we get to. I'll read you a few of these stories. EV Magazine. Twitter is a breeding ground for the normalization of pedophilia.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Daily Dot. Twitter accused of letting pedophiles discuss their sexual attraction to children. AP. Twitter is not placing sex offender notices on sex offender accounts. Wow. The Next Web. Twitter lets pedophiles publicly discuss their attraction to minors, Scholar argues. And then I said Twitter actively protects and supports pedophilia. This is, it's just overt and outright right now. Yeah. And the dude, the fact that they suspended your account for what you did is literally
Starting point is 00:09:39 that, right? I mean, they're more upset about you saying, hey, look at what these people are doing than the fact that people are doing that. So they are directly protecting these individuals. Yep. That's right. I get the vibe that when you're in a culture war or any conflict, really, if you establish vulnerability in your foe, you don't want to have fun with it because then that gives them a time to build up a defense mechanism towards it. So like this groomer narrative, it's very effective because people have been grooming children sexually. We see it on videos and crazy stuff. But if people just start
Starting point is 00:10:14 LOL, groomer, groomer, groomer, you start to see other people establish an immune response. And that's what the Twitter admins have done by saying you can't even call people groomers. Groomer is are neutral term. Parents groom children to be great people. Some people like grooming is just getting someone ready to become something. And I think it's insane that it's taken that people have forced it to become this negative connotation. We should really be focusing on the behavior and not what it's called. They decided that an actual word to describe a behavior behavior is a slur imagine if someone like uh
Starting point is 00:10:47 skateboarded and then you're like that's a skateboarder right there and then the skateboard was like hey man don't call me that and then twitter was like we're gonna ban you if you call them skateboarders it's like they're literally doing it have you gotten a temporary suspension before nope this is the first in the history of my twitter career to ever it's almost over your twitter career is almost over hey man it's been a big it's been a long run it's been uh 13 13 years yeah yeah i'm on 13 as well 2009 game that's right yeah crazy right but you know there was a period where i took it seriously and i would use twitter to report the news and post stories now i post a picture of a 96-foot-tall rooster
Starting point is 00:11:26 that I got in Times Square. Big, beautiful rooster. But with that said, I mean, of course, though, I mean, you've built a phenomenal platform outside of it, which 99.9% of people don't have. So in your case, I mean, if you didn't use Twitter again, like at this stage, you're good to go. No, but the truth is I learned this the hard way.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Okay. Twitter was always a big mistake. How so? When I got started doing news and commentary, I was like, wow, Twitter is this great place. I should have been on YouTube from the beginning. I should have started making YouTube videos. Instead, I was posting on Twitter because I was convinced that people responding and tweeting was legitimate conversation. And then it was only like two years later I was like, I should have started a YouTube channel.
Starting point is 00:12:11 And I started a YouTube channel. And then I started building that up. And you can see, here's the thing. With Twitter, nobody ever walks up to me on the street and goes, you're that guy from Twitter. Happens to me every day. Does it really? Yeah. You for real?
Starting point is 00:12:22 Yeah, not for me. Not for me. Yeah, yeah. I've had one. It was after Ferguson. Some guy, like actually my neighbor, was like, hey, man, I saw you on Twitter. But since then, it's always YouTube. It's always podcasts.
Starting point is 00:12:34 It's always someone else's show. And when I worked for these big media companies, they would outright tell you this. Twitter does not drive traffic, so we don't use it. And I was like, what do you mean? I was all like, like no of course it does like everybody's using twitter and they were like bro and they showed me the metrics and twitter would drive like a tweet would get like 0.01 clicks or something just like out of the out of the so interesting maybe my analytics are like super mega high because the
Starting point is 00:12:59 difference is if you're using twitter on twitter yeah that makes sense if you're using Twitter on Twitter, that makes sense. If you're building a company and trying to use Twitter as like an external tool, it does nothing for you. So being on Twitter. Okay, this is not the case for me at all. Wow. Yeah, this is not the case for me at all. That's surprising to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:15 So I'm way bigger on Twitter than I am on YouTube. I put more, I spend more time on it as well. Like I have a YouTube channel and Instagram and Facebook, but Twitter's the biggest and Twitter does the most for my actual business as well. How does Twitter generate revenue for you more than YouTube can? I've sold tens of thousands of things on Twitter. Wow. Merchandise, books, coaching.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Well, you mean promoting them on Twitter? You're not directly selling them on Twitter. You're promoting them with that platform. There's a link, there's a link, but people are coming from Twitter. Here's the question. Twitter's the biggest sales platform for my book, for example. Here's the question, though. Yeah. Would you be bigger-
Starting point is 00:13:54 On YouTube? On any other platform? Well, I use Instagram. I do use YouTube. I do use Facebook. I use them all. Do you have your own website? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Oh, that's interesting to me. Maybe I'm an anomaly um team zoobie.com that's where i sell my book my music my merchandise but yeah for me twitter is the biggest traffic driver do you do videos on twitter yeah sometimes well i will say this for me uh there's only one thing i care about twitter for and it's that the my following list yeah i follow left wing left wing right wing journalists and news organizations And it's that, my following list. I follow left wing, right wing journalists and news organizations. And it's just a really easy way to get a news list. That's the only thing I care about. So that's why I'm usually posting nonsense. The thing with social media
Starting point is 00:14:35 is different things are good for different people. Like I know people who Instagram is their, that's their generator. Like they get their clients, their sales, their money, like they get their money from Instagram. I know people where it's Facebook. I know people it's Twitter. I know people it's YouTube. So I think it just varies from individual to individual. And I think it's also what you like. Some people like doing YouTube and some people just like Twitter.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Some people like Instagram. And I think if you like something, then you just go that much harder. Let's talk about the problem with Twitter and where it's going with this story is this is, this is part of whether it's intentional or not. It was explained to me by a former Trump administration official that what the big tech companies, Democrats, the unit party and new context are trying to do is give anti-establishment
Starting point is 00:15:19 people just enough voice. So there's no ruckus, but reduce their voice just enough. So it's politically neutered. Yeah, it doesn't have an impact in the long term. So if you've got a fierce rivalry between two factions and suspending one would result in an explosion of rage, you do is you suspend 1%. Now it's a lopsided battle. The left gets a major advantage against the right and the right slowly loses out.
Starting point is 00:15:45 So when you do something like this, telling someone like me, I can't say a groomer, to someone literally showing kids adult materials, that is a big move, a big line jump. So now on Twitter, me getting hit, me talking about it, how many people do you think are going to fall in line and go, uh-oh? Yeah, it's got a chilling effect. It's the same thing they did over the past two and a half years they did it during the trump era and so on it's creating that chill and um one of the biggest issues that we have right now in western society and it's across the usa it's in the uk it's in canada it's everywhere is just this climate of fear like the the level of self-censorship that is now happening. I mean, we can sit here and we can talk openly and we're all open to sharing our opinions. But the sheer number of people, hundreds of millions of people who are just scared to say what they think, whether they go ahead.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, just just the sheer number of people who are just absolutely terrified to say what they think on so many various issues from politics to social stuff to culture stuff to the entire pandemic situation. And it's it's concerning. It's really concerning, especially because these are places where you're supposed to have free speech. And if you cannot actually exercise your freedom of speech, then do you really have it? Of course not. And so people seem to think that – let me put it this way. We have the After Hours Uncensored show over at TimCast.com. Sign up.
Starting point is 00:17:18 We're going to have one of those up tonight at 11. And often we do say things that are like, we have conversations that Twitter, I'm sorry, that YouTube doesn't allow. So we talked with Marjorie Taylor Greene about the 2020 election and what the Republicans plan to do, or I should say when they win in November, presumably. And we talked about that. I actually don't think that conversation would get banned on YouTube. I'm just not willing to entertain that. It's, it's an, it's, you know, because YouTube is, their rules are vague. There's they're nebulous. So the issue is of course, we don't want to be censored. We want to have the biggest conversations possible with the most people and people need to hear these things. And so it's a
Starting point is 00:17:56 question of if we have a hundred topics to talk about, are we forced to take one of those topics to the website? And that's the challenge. It's, it's, it's not, it's not an easy decision to make. A lot of people are like, Tim, sacrifice the presence on YouTube. Stop doing the show altogether to make a point. And I'm like, then how are we winning anything? So that's the challenge. But here's what happens. People think that we censor ourselves on the show to a great degree. Not true at all. There are some things we will use innuendo for a dance around if it is like an overt, you're like going to get a shutdown. We don't call people slurs. We don't swear. I don't really have any, I have any of that stuff to worry about. What you need to understand is that we say the things we believe
Starting point is 00:18:36 in and the people who said the things they believe in got banned, right? So when people refer to me as like a milquetoast fence sitter, which is like the long running joke, yes, understand that when they start banning me, that's where the line has moved to. That's how far we're getting. So it's not that I sit here and I'm like, I better not say these things. Oh no, I don't want to anger YouTube. Is that I'll outright say YouTube is dumb and says they'll shut the show down if we say that. So go watch it on my website. Let's build up a bigger website, challenge all of these systems. It's the best we can do.
Starting point is 00:19:09 I will say the people who have opinions that are overtly banned, you're never going to hear from them again. They were banned on YouTube already. So the way I described it before is that you've got this big island and it's cliffs all around that are slowly being knocked down and eroded. And I've always been somewhat in the middle.
Starting point is 00:19:25 But then you see people on the right, the cliffs erode and they fall down as censorship starts wiping them out. Those people held the line on their opinions. I didn't have to worry about it because I'm like, I'm not going to say the things those guys are saying. I don't agree with them. And now the cliffs have eroded to the point where we're standing there saying, hey, children shouldn't get sex changes.
Starting point is 00:19:43 And they're like, oh, you better watch out. We're going to ban you if you say that again. And then it's going to come to a point where I'm like, well, I'm saying it. Screw you. And then they banned me. So this is a good example on Twitter. They said, you can't call people groomers. Fine. I'll call them pedophiles. And I'll post all the stories I can find where Twitter protected pedophiles because I got to wonder about the leadership at Twitter that's enforcing this stuff. Vijaya Gade? I mean, what's her predilection? What is she thinking about?
Starting point is 00:20:10 What is she interested in that she would come to them and say, I don't want anyone to call out pedophiles? It's like, I wonder why you would do that. It's really weird, isn't it? It's really sinister because with stuff like this, it really should not be, it shouldn't be partisan. It shouldn't be this. It's not a political thing this shouldn't be some left right issue regardless of where you sit on the political spectrum during any remotely sane time or in any remotely sane country everyone agrees there are
Starting point is 00:20:35 certain lines you do not cross when it comes to children not anymore yeah and the fact that this is even considered political or is becoming this guy i I'm like, dude, what is what is going on? This is it's very worrying. So I don't think it's political so much as it is just them letting go of the pretense that they're a platform for free expression. Like these platforms like Twitter and YouTube used to really value appearing like they allow free expression. But now they've kind of given up on that. Yeah, for sure. I'm talking outside of Facebook and Twitter, though.
Starting point is 00:21:14 I'm talking as a general society and a culture, right? So with these issues, it's often framed as if this is, you know, you've got these right-wingers or these conservatives who have a problem with stuff like this. It's the cats outside. Bucco wants to follow it in. He's interrupting us. He never does this. This is weird, yeah. Why does he want to come in?
Starting point is 00:21:36 He probably wants to drink my water. I thought he wasn't allowed in here. As long as you've got your eyes on him. Has he been grooming out there? Get up there, buddy. Is that what you were saying? He's been grooming. Oh, anyway.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Yeah, I was just saying that it's nutty to me that this has even become considered some kind of partisan split. And I think that there's this reactionary thing that does happen, though, where if there are people on the left side of the aisle are doing something, then there's a reaction from certain people on the right to oppose it, regardless of what it is. And the opposite, I think now that people on conservatives are like, wait, hang on, why are you teaching my child about this nonsense? Why have you got grown men in women's outfits reading to children and exposing themselves or whatever? And there's a faction of people on the left side of the aisle who are like, oh, well, conservatives have an issue with this, so I now need to support it.
Starting point is 00:22:25 I just want to pull up this story. Sorry. This is from LGBTQ Nation. Explaining the issue, they say Twitter enforces its ban on calling people groomers as anti-LGBTQ hate speech. That's so wild. So this is like a cell phone. I mean, this is them calling themselves groomers. It's the weirdest thing.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Yeah. The point I made when they announced this, first of all, the tweet I put up, I put up before they banned the word groomer. So they're retroactively enforcing this now. Have they officially put out a policy saying you cannot use this word? I don't know. I've not seen it. I've seen the stories about it. But here's the thing I tweeted about. I said, there's a creepy guy staring at kids and licking his lips and say, hey, you groomer, you get out of here. And then a bunch of LGBTQ people walk over and go, hey, why are you making fun of us? And I'm like, wait, what? That's what's really disturbing me.
Starting point is 00:23:16 I wasn't talking about you guys. People that groom children, like Hitler was a groomer. He groomed children to be in the Hitler Youth. It doesn't have anything to do with sexuality on its face. It's only when you can have people that are sexually grooming, but you can have people that are grooming politically, grooming ideologically, and that it's getting the Twitter, people at Twitter conflating it is very disturbing to me.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Yeah, well, that's their own. I don't know if that's a guilty conscience or if that's bigotry on their part, because they're the ones conflating LGBTQ, struggle with that acronym, with grooming. Yeah, but this is the point now. You can't call out actual pedophiles.
Starting point is 00:23:54 They will suspend you. So just call them pedophiles, I guess. They said the word groomer is a slur. It's like, I'm not trying to slur you. I'm trying to call you what you are. I'm not about insult. I'm not going like you're a dumb MF-er. That's pointless. Now I really want to know what you are yeah i'm not i'm not about insult i'm like i'm not going like you're a dumb mfr like that's that's point now i really want to know what you were quote tweeting i don't remember um i vaguely remember and i'm pretty sure it was a picture of like a drag queen
Starting point is 00:24:15 showing sexual stuff to children i mean people will find any way to defend that and i think if we're disagreeing on something that fundamental like you can't show this type of thing to children, we've got like spiritual problems to address. A bunch of left-wing publications are overtly defending it. So let me explain, just for those that haven't heard it before, what grooming is.
Starting point is 00:24:38 And I'll preface it by saying, for those that are fans who watch all of the episodes, not every person watches every segment and every podcast we do. And so I often get the same questions over and over again. For example, a lot of people have said in the past day or so, like, I'd sign up for your website if you didn't have PayPal. And I'm like, bro, we haven't had PayPal for like two weeks now. So I'll say this.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Grooming is when you take the most base form of, and we're talking about the sexual grooming of children. You take the most innocuous element of what you we're talking about the sexual grooming of children, you take the most innocuous element of what you want to introduce to the kids so that no one can say it's overt. So for instance, I knew a guy who got groomed into being a male prostitute and how they did it was they asked him to do a modeling shoot for $200. A legit true story. They said, the gig is we want, we're doing a lifestyle photo shoot. We want you to hang out and sit on this couch, relax, have a drink. We'll take a few photos. Once we're done 200 bucks cash. That's innocent, isn't it? It's just, he showed up
Starting point is 00:25:36 wearing a hoodie and jeans and just took some photos. That was grooming. Why? It's the long term intent. The next thing they did was they said, look, we already got tons of these lifestyle photos. We need like, we need, um, like active wear and swimwear and stuff. Do you want to try wearing these shorts and a t-shirt? Oh yeah, no problem. Then they would say, sorry, man, if you want the money, we don't need photos of this anymore. We need, you know, underwear models. Now he's an underwear model that was grooming. So what happens is you take someone who's doing something adult or sexualized, introducing it to children.
Starting point is 00:26:10 So a drag performance. What is drag? So I was actually talking about this. We were talking about this earlier, go-go dancing. Imagine if someone was like, go-go dancer story hour. You'd be like, what, for kids? No way. They get like a woman with just like a bra and panties sitting there reading to kids. You'd be like, maybe not appropriate. Hooters, probably not appropriate for kids either. Drag actually involves them taking their clothes off for money. So when you're talking about a sexualized performer, just reading a book to a kid, the reason that's grooming is the goal is to normalize the individual in drag to a child. Then when people say, hey, wait a minute, hold on, drag is sexualized.
Starting point is 00:26:47 They say, all we're doing is reading books, like exactly what they're doing now. The difference is this is mass scale grooming. This is big tech and social media grooming and defending it. And I'll tell you what's really fascinating. There was a period on YouTube. There's a big scandal. Do you remember Elsagate? Do you know about that? Is this when people were like watching some video? Maybe I'm mixing it. I remember there
Starting point is 00:27:11 was something on YouTube where people were watching, I don't know if it was like videos of kids doing stuff in like swimming pools. There was some, I can't explain it well. There was something on YouTube, you mean? Yeah. Yeah. You know Elsagate? I vaguely, yeah. So Elsagate was when all of these channels started making videos of Elsa, the Joker,
Starting point is 00:27:30 and Spider-Man running around and the Incredible Hulk. Okay. And there was like no dialogue and it was because little kids, their parents would turn the video on and then it would just generate a ton of ad revenue for the person. So all of a sudden, people started making these videos because it made money and it was getting increasingly creepy. Eventually, it ended with Elsa got to the point where Elsa was pregnant and the Joker was injecting her with things.
Starting point is 00:27:54 No joke. Okay. This turned into videos where people literally were giving children shots because it was generating clicks for whatever reason the algorithm was promoting it. And then when people realized they could use an AI to auto-generate these videos, you ended up with videos of toddlers drinking urine and other overtly. So this was a huge scandal where content for children was showing gore, violence, and overtly sexual activities. YouTube panicked and had to start purging these channels and these videos to get rid of all of it. So now the clever thing happened among the groomers.
Starting point is 00:28:28 They said, so long as you're doing these things overtly, they'll shut you down. What you need is a shield. So we started to see the LGBT movement when pedophiles started saying LGBT. We then saw a TED talk from a woman who claimed that pedos were just expressing a natural orientation. Then we saw USA Today write a similar article. Then we saw, I think it was, maybe it was Salon and a bunch of magazines. Yeah, it was Salon. It was Salon. A couple times, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:54 New York Times, I think, did it, where they started saying, hey, hey, it's just an orientation. Yep. Trying to normalize this stuff. They're maps. Minor attracted people. Right. And then maps popped up on Twitter. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Twitter allows that overtly. People called them out. Twitter doesn't care. They still attracted people. Right. And then maps popped up on Twitter. Yeah. Twitter allows that overtly. People called them out. Twitter doesn't care. They still allow it. Now, Twitter will actively ban you if you call out the pedophiles going after children. Not only that, there's like a huge amount of not safe for work content on Twitter. I understand that that's part of their TOS that they allow that. But they also have a lot of accounts that openly say in their bio that they are underage or
Starting point is 00:29:25 their age is like as low as like 13 like 12 13 14 year olds having like these not safe for work accounts on Twitter it's freaking they allow it there's another there's another big issue that's happening to with the VR chat stuff where 13 year olds will be in these VR chat rooms with grown adults. And the adults can – it's unsupervised. I mean this is getting out of control, man. Yeah. This is crazy.
Starting point is 00:29:54 I mean this leads to a wider conversation just about some of the challenges with with technology just in general i think i think people often forget just how new this all is the smartphone and social media combo we've only had for 15 years we've had the internet for longer than that but with all the greatness and wonderful opportunities it brings for decent people and entrepreneurs and creatives and so on it also opens up this pandora's box of just completely new like what you described with that elsagate thing yeah i mean that just yeah it's so bizarre and weird it's not something you think of when you're starting youtube you're not there thinking like oh okay this is something we need to be careful of. It wasn't just videos of people either. There were animated cartoons that were made by AIs that just generated whatever got the most clicks.
Starting point is 00:30:52 And then that ended up, of course, being the most effed up. Yeah, like children drinking urine. Yeah, sexual stuff, violent stuff. Yeah, I'm pretty into technology. And I did not know that such an AI even exists, that you can create automated animated videos. Yeah, using like characters from Disney and stuff so they know that kids are going to click on it. Yeah, it's scary.
Starting point is 00:31:17 And then you bring in VR. It wasn't about clicking on it. What happens is. Or autoplay. Yep. Yeah. So parents would give their toddlers or babies a tablet and then turn on nursery rhymes. And then the algorithm would just bring those kids down a rabbit hole.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Yo, those kids are going to grow up and be twisted in that. So the parents just come into the room and they just see their child watching some wild stuff. All the comments were gibberish because the babies were just hitting the thing randomly. A lot of people thought that some of those gibberish comments were speaking in some kind of code that was like coordinating human trafficking. I don't know about that. Maybe. Honestly, these things like that's the one line for me where I mean, I think any any adult should be like this.
Starting point is 00:32:01 But when it comes to people who's messing with kids in general, that's just where like... Dude, it's been said numerous times. Why is that partisan? Think about that. It shouldn't be. It should be instinctual. That's when I feel...
Starting point is 00:32:16 But it's becoming partisan. Have you noticed that many of these people, these leftists, use cartoon child avatars? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, I had a bunch of them after me today, in fact. They don't make, like they don't view themselves as adults.
Starting point is 00:32:32 I mean, think about the word adulting to imply that you're doing something not normal. Yo, the word adulting implies, like the actual word means doing normal things humans do. I'm adulting. Children are supported. children are extended adolescence right and so now you've got people who go on twitter and they post these pictures of themselves these fictionalized versions it was a really funny meme a while ago from a particular feminist podcast and they made this graphic of themselves and they were all like dainty young looking women and then someone made a realistic version of what they actually looked like dainty, young-looking women. And then someone made a realistic version
Starting point is 00:33:05 of what they actually looked like, like double chin and obese and things like that. People use the internet to project what they wish they were. The crazy thing is, and you probably know this better than anybody, Zuby, people could just be what they want to be through hard work, right?
Starting point is 00:33:21 If you want to be thin and small, you just do it. Not everybody can be a giraffe, though. And some people want to be a giraffe. And so I don't have to tell you, man, just pray the matrix and Neuralink can take you into that reality where you can be a giraffe. But for the time being- Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Do you think that maybe some people have this kind of Michael Jackson syndrome where like in their childhood, perhaps they didn't get to play outside and have toys and do all the things that they kind of wanted to. And now as an adult, they're trying to play this now. I don't know. It's just an idea.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Adderall is messing kids' childhoods up. They're not being able to enjoy them properly. I think that's definitely screwing kids up and all the drugs. But I think what's happening is the internet and media has created these parallel realities that children live in so i often think about you know how is it that somebody wants to
Starting point is 00:34:10 dress up like a cartoon rabbit yeah you're like the like the like furries it's freaking weird man well i look do do what you want to do i got no beef no it's not beef but it's freaking weird like we can we can say stuff is weird i'm not saying it should be illegal it's just weird i'm just wondering where it comes from how is it that someone identifies as a cartoon animal? So the first thing that happened was when I first heard about furries, someone told me it's people who just dress up like animals. And I was like, oh, I guess people want to be animals. And then I actually saw what they were doing.
Starting point is 00:34:36 And I'm like, no, those are Looney Tunes. They're dressing up like Bugs Bunny with big eyes and cartoon faces. So what I think happened was people grew up watching anthropomorphized animals. And a child's brain is trying to connect itself to reality. So in early human development, human tribes,
Starting point is 00:34:56 the baby watches the adults do adult stuff and then says, this is what I should be doing and then wires itself to identify alongside what their adults are. The man is chopping wood. The woman is, you know, raising the kids and gathering the men come back with the bears and the boars and the meat. Then you do the modern era where kids are now put in front of the car of the TV where they watch nothing but Looney Tunes. Their brain says this is adult life. These are what human adults do. And so their brain creates an identity around anthropomorphized
Starting point is 00:35:24 cartoon animals. Then when they're older, they want to be that. I think this is why we're seeing the explosion of identity crisis from, you guys know what otherkin is? Yes, I do. Unfortunately. People think they're like, I'm an owl wolf. Yeah. Why?
Starting point is 00:35:38 No, no, for real. Like legitimate question. Like where does that identity crisis come from? But isn't it, but we've had anthropomorphized. That's one word I always struggle to get out. Anthropomorphism. Anthropomorphism. Yeah, we've had that for, that's existed for a long time, though.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Has it? Native American culture, people would become wolves and things like that. Not the way we're doing it now. Probably not. Didn't we all also grow up with this, and none of us are? So, for one, no, we didn't always have this. We had the concept of humanized or anthropomorphized animals in like written literature told to you in a story from a person's mouth. But we had the cartoons.
Starting point is 00:36:15 I mean, Looney Tunes and all the Disney stuff. So perhaps the issue is one, some people are more susceptible. And two, maybe some of these people were placed in front of these shows for extended periods of time and their parents were less attentive. On like a mood stabilizer. Perhaps. A lot of it's pharmaceutical. And then kids are seeing porn average age is 11 that kids are being exposed to porn. I think it's a rumor.
Starting point is 00:36:35 That's another tech thing, isn't it? Groomers. I mean, that's another technology problem, man. I mean. It's all a tech problem. Yeah, I mean. Well, hold on 20 years ago i mean if you wanted to if you wanted to access porn as a horny little 12 year old or 13
Starting point is 00:36:50 year old you could do it but there were the barrier was a lot higher you'd have to get an older person to go in and buy a magazine off the top shelf or someone has to someone's got a little dvd or something like that not just you tap a site on a on a phone or a tablet or a computer and just boom no verification nothing it's just there bill maher asked the question he said why he said either we're creating them or we're or what is it creating them or shaming them why is it that california has so many trans kids ohio doesn't there's clearly that something affects the identity of a young person as they're growing up. It's the parents.
Starting point is 00:37:26 It's the parents putting it out there. I think it's everything. It's parents and society. Social media is a factor. Some of these teachers obviously are doing this. But a lot of parents are – to me, it's like having a vegan cat, right? If you got a vegan cat, it's not the cat making the decisions. The cat will die.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Yeah. Cats can't be vegan. It's not the cat making the decisions. It's like be vegan well it's not the cat making the decisions it's like no you you you're pushing your ideology onto your cat if you have a trans three-year-old and i feel gross even saying that then that is the parents doing that well well now you've got science scientific journal saying kids can do transit too this stuff is evil man and i there's something really satanic going on in the West right now, man. Like, I can't really put it any lighter. Why do you say satanic?
Starting point is 00:38:11 I say satanic because I genuinely think there are evil forces out there. And I'm talking about actual spiritual realm. And to someone who is a absolute atheist, a nonbeliever, or thinks nothing is supernatural, that might sound weird to them. But I think that we've legit got a demonic issue. And it makes sense that they would go for children first. Yeah, I think there's an entire inversion agenda that's been running very aggressively for the past several years. I think there's a practical reason for a lot of this. We've talked about Thucydides' trap on the show quite a bit.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Are you familiar with the concept? I'm not. No, explain it. Whenever a rising economic power is on the verge of supplanting the dominant power, war breaks out. Okay. I say whenever, but it's a tendency towards. So historians often say the last 16 examples of an economic power supplanting the greater, 12 instances
Starting point is 00:39:08 led to war. So the idea is, why is it that, I don't know, Joe Biden is doing these deals and flying to China and working these deals with China? China is expected to overtake the United States very soon. It was delayed because of COVID. Interesting. Interesting about that. It was delayed because of COVID. And- Interesting about that. It was delayed because of COVID.
Starting point is 00:39:26 And you mean the overtake? The overtake. China. I'm sorry. Actually, it might have been sped up. I thought it would have been sped up. I think China continued to grow. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:32 I think it was sped up by it. But think about what this means. The U.S. is eroding from within. You've got the January 6th committee, for instance, actively trying. So Eric Swalwell was asked about this. He was asked about, you know, isn't what he's doing causing more division? And he said something that was like just inane, like, well, we have to do it or something like that. So yeah, when they lie and escalate, Jussie Smollett, Russiagate, Ukrainegate,
Starting point is 00:40:01 all of that stuff, just lie, lie, lie, lie, lie. They are in flaming tensions when they go after kids and divert them or I'd say subvert their development and then cause identity crises, give them drugs. Destroying the next generation is going to cripple the United States. And I have to wonder, not saying it's intentional, but it is fortuitous for those who fear Thucydides' trap because the U.S. is falling as fast as China's rising. China may actually take over the world, the global economy, whether the U.S. ever having an opportunity to engage in war. So if you think about the Council on Foreign Relations, I think it was, they have on their website the liberal world order and why it was created. Anybody who's arguing for the creation of a new world order in the wake of the liberal world order,
Starting point is 00:40:48 and I don't mean the new world order conspiracy, I mean the literal term, a world order and a new version of it, it would be beneficial to avoid a third world war with China. How would you do that? Destroying the economy of the United States and the upcoming generation to make sure that they can't ever actually engage in conflict. There's a story I saw recently where there's like a
Starting point is 00:41:08 destroyer that had like three captains rotate in and out so quickly because they were being fired and demoted. The US military can't recruit at all anymore. So where is this coming from? No idea. But I will- Is this internal? Is this external manipulation? Both maybe. That's the thing I find so weird. It's like this social and cultural domestic Harry Keery, right? Like that. It's so odd to me. I mean, the UK is doing the same things. Many Western countries are. I think the US is kind of sadly leading the charge in this and exporting a lot of bad ideas. But there's really a lot of people have noticed that in the past, I want to say, seven to eight years in particular, a lot of this is the inversion has really, really accelerated. But so many of these issues are things that it would literally as recently as a decade ago, it would have seen completely absurd for them to even be debates or conversations. And there's something real, really, really weird going on. I do want to point out just a quick shout out to Joe Spinella on the Super Chat who mentioned, surely you haven't seen the tanks protecting Chinese banks because China's economy is imploding. True point. Fair point.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Fair point. I'm not saying that China is coming out unscathed. It may be a global economic collapse. The whole system is just imploding for whatever reason. You saw with the Trans-Pacific Partnership in 2010. That was the first warning sign for me. Barack Obama signed on and it gave. There's this thing called the Investor State Dispute investor state dispute settlement clause in the Trans-Pacific Partnership deal that would have given Malaysian
Starting point is 00:42:48 oil corporations the power to sue the United States government. And the taxpayers would have to pay the bill. If they thought that Americans were discriminating against their oil companies and didn't want to buy their oil, then they could sue us. And it was giving corporations insane power over American citizens. And Obama was on it. He like, he didn't know, or he could sue us. And it was giving corporations insane power over American citizens. And Obama was on it. He like he didn't know or he didn't care. And Trump shut it down. Shut it down.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Like the third day was an office or the second day was an office. But they were trying to do that is very overtly transferring power from the citizen American democracy, republicanism to corporatism. Yeah, dude, look at the last two and a half years. Like, seriously. democracy republicanism to corporatism yeah dude look at the last two and a half years like seriously i mean how of all these countries in a very coordinated fashion i mean it's one thing if one country goes nuts but it's literally been uk canada every country in western europe pretty much except sweden usa new zealand what what was it a world war one you had the the three countries they were cousins with each other was like france who was it germany and who else or something like that germany austria i don't know i don't remember um but it was like these three
Starting point is 00:43:56 leaders are going to war with each other we're cousins it's like they're all related to each other that's just that i'm not surprised by any of that powerful i think we're witnessing a controlled demolition man you think they're intentionally destroying the economy and dude everything that people are freaking out with right now with the economy supply chains inflation so i'm not saying you're wrong it was all completely predictable and predicted by myself and other so-called conspiracy theorists like well when all this stuff started. It was very predictable and very obvious. I got evidence for you.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Okay. So we'll call it circumstantial evidence and we'll call it logic. Okay. So Ukraine-Russia war, right? Invasion of Ukraine. Fertilizer from Russia not getting exported. U.S. is in trouble. Ukraine and Russia neither are exporting enough wheat.
Starting point is 00:44:44 They can't produce any. There's a war going on. They can't produce as much global famine. You've heard him talk about it. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Then why in Europe are they telling farmers in Ireland and the Netherlands to stop farming and the UK and the UK? Why are they telling these farmers, these countries stop farming right now? Controlled demolition. But hold on. The same people who are telling us that there is going to be a global famine are also telling their farmers to stop farming. That's very strange, isn't it? I mean, they're saying famine's coming. You better stop farming or else.
Starting point is 00:45:13 It's like, OK, do you want people to like run out of food? Yeah, it's impossible to not be a quote unquote conspiracy theorist these days after the past several years if you are just interested in thinking. But they've created this, right? hearing about. If they refuse to be honest and they just continue to lie and to gaslight and to shift goalposts for years and years and years on end, like every single day, they're just lying to people, then naturally you are going to have people trying to work out, wait, what is going on? This narrative is not making sense. This is not logical. This is not rational. This is not based in science. It's not based in economics, nothing. What is going on? It makes people wonder. Can we stop it?
Starting point is 00:46:08 I think people always ultimately have the power. We can resist the starvation by growing local food. Well, that's what I'm getting to. My question is, if we are in a controlled demolition, do you think it's possible that people reverse course and stop this? Yes, it's always possible. I don't think this is the first time being here in history. By voting for Trump is what you're saying. Mega. Yeah, I mean, look, I don't think that this is the first or even close to the worst thing that humanity has faced on any level. I think it's
Starting point is 00:46:38 important to always maintain a sense of gratitude and perspective, both historically and geographically. And I think there's a lot of real stuff to be very, very concerned about. But in terms of my optimism, I mean, you look at history and man, there's countless examples of very, very dark times where I'm sure people in certain countries or across just thought, you know what, this is a wrap. This is the end. Like this is a freaking nightmare. And people have always come out on the end of it thus far, right? Our species is still going. There's more of us than ever before. So I think one thing that people often forget, though, is that history is not finished, right?
Starting point is 00:47:17 It never is. No, we're living through the history of the future, right? I'm sure if you go back to 1910s and you talk to people in Europe or in America or whatever, I'm pretty sure they thought that they were very advanced and they were past all the war and the chaos and the famine and the genocide. You know, we're cool. We're advanced. We're smart. We're moral. We're decent people. And then boom, World War I, boom, World War II, right? That would not have been remotely predictable. Well, what's happening now? They say that there's overpopulation,
Starting point is 00:47:48 climate change from too much pollution. I say, okay. They say we got to have late-term abortions. Then they say we also got to give drugs to children that will sterilize them. And I'm like, the end result of that is just the left. Conservatives aren't engaging in that for the most part. They'll be brought down by it to
Starting point is 00:48:05 a certain degree, but not completely. And so I wonder about this. The end result, the strong survive. If there's an artificial flood or a natural flood, whatever you want to call it, some emergency, be it an economic crisis, an environmental crisis, or a cultural crisis, in the end, the strong survive. Well, it's the adaptable that survive the strong may starve it's also the people it's the people who show up for it the future will go to those who show up for it so if i'm sitting here saying to everybody who's watching this show and you are as well like hey it feels like there's a collapse happening and it may be on purpose the the best case uh the best evidence in my opinion is that they're claiming a global famine is coming while telling
Starting point is 00:48:43 farmers to stop farming that's indicative of they're intentionally trying to starve people reminds me well so my point is if you hear that you had two years advance notice watching my show if you haven't for that long to i don't know move out of the cities get some get get a small piece of land where you can grow enough food for your family or to buy emergency food and start preparing for what may be coming. But I'll stress it again. When the powers that be scream in your face for two years, a food shortage is coming, then you actively see them shooting.
Starting point is 00:49:15 A cop shot a live bullet at farmers because they want them to stop farming. It's like, okay. Was that in the Netherlands? In the Netherlands. Like they're willing to kill these farmers to shut down their protest. Yo, they're telling you they are not going to let you have food i think maybe you should plan for that it may be like a misdirected intention
Starting point is 00:49:33 like i keep thinking about mao's great leap forward in the communist chinese revolution of what was the 1960s and he moved all these farmers off the farms and then gave like all these people from the cities he moved them out to the farms like Like now you're in the farm, but they didn't know how to farm. So a bunch of people starved. Maybe it was intentional. I don't know. Stalin did the same. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:50 You starve the resistance and then you have less resistance. So if they think there's an overpopulation issue and they want a slower growth of population, what would be a good way to do that? Not a slower growth. They want a depletion of it well and the people who are imposing this so-called controlled demolition are certainly going to survive the famine civil unrest whatever happens and then the so-called like strong of you know the people people watching this show who do what the things that you just listed are also going to survive it then what happens maga people are the future is that it i don't i don't think anyone's overtly said they
Starting point is 00:50:30 want less people yes people keep saying they want to slow but that's not true bill gates wrote an article about it saying that there is way too many poor people being born in africa and that's what we got there's a lot of we got to slow down there's a lot of antenatalatalism, and it's not new. Antinatalism has been running for decades. To your point, if we're talking – your point about the strong surviving, when there's no food, it's the people in cities who suffer. The people who live out in the countryside, like, yo, you drive up the mountain, everyone has chickens. Like, to them, it's – and people who are listening to this who live in the country know exactly what this is better than i do because they've been doing it their whole lives it's like you wake up in the morning get eggs from the chicken it's no big deal growing up in the city you go to the supermarket get your bleached eggs now if there's a food shortage the people who have their own chickens
Starting point is 00:51:15 don't got to worry about it y'all you're going to be eating cockroaches and bugs and crickets i got like 30 40 chickens out there oh you'll be oh they're pushing the insects hard they're no no no no the chickens are going to eat the crickets and i'm going to eat that's the way to 40 chickens out there. Oh, they're pushing the insects hard. They've been pushing that one for years. The chickens are going to eat the crickets, and I'm going to eat the chickens. That's the way to go. But chickens smell, and they pollute the environment, so not everyone can have them, unfortunately. No, no. Chickens, when they poop,
Starting point is 00:51:36 we don't do it properly because we are still living in this luxury. What you do is Thomas Massey, man, that guy's a genius. He has something called the Clucks capacitor. It's a solar capacitor that charges up and then releases a charge, pulling a chicken coop about an inch. So all day, the chicken's coop moves and the chickens poop in the grass.
Starting point is 00:51:56 And he said, the trail of grass behind the chicken coop is lush and fertile because the chickens are actively eating the bugs in the grass and then fertilizing the soil. So it's a perfect cycle. Brilliant. Wow. What you do in the chicken's poop. We've got these big mounds because we did construction and it's crazy how big and tall the wild shrubbery and grasses have grown on it because it was just a huge pile of chicken
Starting point is 00:52:19 It is impressive. I looked up at it and saw for the first time after it was just a little – That was wild. Yeah, well, it was two big mounds of chicken crap. And it's like – I think what happens is the nitrogen escaped from it, and then it's fertile, and then the plants just go nuts. I'm with you, Zuby. I think all you guys actually have kind of been touching on this, that if they want a slower population growth or less people, one of the two, and they want less carbon in the atmosphere, that they want – we're running out of food, but they want the farmers to stop farming.
Starting point is 00:52:48 It feels like they want to starve a segment of the population to propel. And these people that want it must be insulated from that in some way. I think it's because they know that not the entire globe can enjoy the first world luxuries that a lot of us enjoy. And now their version of preparing for that prospect as the population grows is to, by any means necessary, deplete the population and then hoard the resources for themselves. And I don't think anyone knew Stalin was trying to kill his population
Starting point is 00:53:24 until after it happened or population until after it happened or Mao until after it happened. Like, you don't know when it's coming. Otherwise, you stop it. You prevent it. Exactly. Yeah, but people also
Starting point is 00:53:32 are really bad at stopping things. They're good at running a river flows in one direction. But really, again, I hate to keep referring back to the past two and a half years we've just lived through,
Starting point is 00:53:42 but I can't think of a more blatant and in your face example of people not stopping things when there's a clear and simple opportunity because tribalism i think people have a natural tendency towards resistance we have sports because they want to fight against something it's also just fear with the last two years there's such an easy way to resist. Yeah. And people didn't do it. They still aren't doing it.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Ian makes a good point, though. When I was younger, I used to complain that people cared about sports more than politics. And I didn't understand why we have these stories about Bush and the invasion of Iraq, and then you get Obama. And I'm like, I wish people cared more about this than, say, the Packers or whatever. And now I'm understanding exactly why it was good that we had sports people don't care or want to understand they want tribal conflict and so while they're saying i choose because no one forces you forces you to do this they say i'd rather watch the baseball game and argue with my friends about who's better at baseball. And then I say, well, I care a whole lot about the conflict, so I'm going to pay attention to that.
Starting point is 00:54:50 It actually works out really well that the people who aren't smart enough or don't want to engage in worldly affairs choose not to. So they're not voting for evil people being sucked into the demagoguery of the Democrats or, you know, they argue Donald Trump. But it's the Democrats that are funding Trump-supported candidates while claiming they're the apocalypse. So this is what the Democrats have done. I saw this montage. It was horrifying where all of the cable news outlets are talking about the January 6th hearings as a season of shows with a season finale. They have made it entertainment to escalate political conflict. To me, like you were saying, Zuby, it sounds like they're doing it on purpose
Starting point is 00:55:36 to cause political conflict. I wrote for Newsweek when Raskin included me in his evidence that this is the goal, to drive a wedge, to create escalation. Let's jump to this next story so we can call out joe biden we got this from the hill oh boy biden says quote god willing i don't think we're going to see a recession really y'all god willing i don't think i don't think we'll just put dots after that joe uh so the biden administration it was yelling said uh well they're all coming out and saying this. A recession is normally two consecutive periods with negative growth. However, that's not really what a recession is. So we're not really in a recession, even if that is the case.
Starting point is 00:56:15 So Thursday, we're going to find out if it's an official recession, which we all know it is. And that's why they preempted this by saying, despite the official definition of a recession, that's not recession and moving forward we won't see one okay this is trying to reduce panic this is just like at the beginning of covid when they were telling us not to buy masks yeah like it's all it's all about lying because they don't believe in the goodwill of you know i i tell people listening this we can do what we can do we can speak up. We can try and provide information to people. We always got to be calm, reasonable, and rational. And then when those people don't want to listen, there's only so much you can do. You can bring a horse to Harvard, but you can't make him learn.
Starting point is 00:56:56 However, you can go to a store and buy beans that will last you for a few years. You can stock up on emergency water, emergency food. You can get out of cities. Now, some people tell me, yo, I can't afford to leave the city. Totally get it. Totally understand. It's not easy. I'm sorry. I don't have answers for everybody. I will tell you that there may come a time where things get so bad in cities. And I say may come a time, I don't know, where you're like, it is preferable to just start walking, to leave everything behind, strap on my shoes and walk out of that city. If, say, the water system fails or something like that.
Starting point is 00:57:28 I'm not saying it will. I'm saying for the time being, if you can't afford to leave the city, it basically means that the way you live in the city is a better standard for you than just being homeless and wandering through the woods. That I understand. Times may come, though, so do what you can is my point. Yeah. Guys, make sure you have passports.
Starting point is 00:57:45 I know a lot of Americans don't have passports. If you don't have a passport, please get one. But do you know why they don't? Because they never leave. But do you know why they don't leave? It's a big country. It's a big country. And they never leave.
Starting point is 00:57:55 The United States is about as big as Europe is. It's quite xenophobic. People are told, at least I was growing up, that the outside world is very dangerous. The outside world. Yeah, I know. Outside of the United States. You might get attacked on the street. And there's some truth to it.
Starting point is 00:58:07 You go to South America, the cops are bribed. You've got to be careful where you walk. The USA is more dangerous than a lot of countries. New York City, it's a jungle. It's a mechanical jungle. It's always funny because you guys know I grew up in the Middle East. I grew up in Saudi Arabia. And it's very funny how people have this idea of that being some super dangerous place.
Starting point is 00:58:23 I'm like, bro, it's safer than literally everywhere in the usa let me let me let me tell you the problem with these big cities um let's say you have a chicken and that chicken takes a dump right in the middle of your yard you don't you don't think twice you don't care yeah the rain comes a day later that poop is long gone what happens if two uh 20 tons of chicken crap plopped right in the middle of your yard it's a lot of bacteria. Yeah, I'm sorry. Rain's not going to wash that away. It's going to be months and it's still going to be there.
Starting point is 00:58:49 It's going to be festering. It's going to be – that's a city. Yeah. So it may – so I've argued with like Michael Maus, for instance, about overpopulation and climate change. I think it's a problem. And then ultimately we come to the agreement, well, population density in cities is a problem. Sure. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:59:03 These cities are bad. What do we do to get people to stop being in cities? I mean, for one, the cities are struggling to maintain themselves. But also, when all of these humans, when you get like 10 million humans in one area all taken a dump at the same time, that goes into one place. The rain and the water can't wash it away. You spread those people out over a few hundred square miles, and now the rain can deal with that and the earth can rebalance everything.
Starting point is 00:59:26 What I don't get is, I'm looking at the World Economic Forum website. Well, weforum.org, I think that's it. But the world's megacities, they want to build megacities by 2030. Of course they do. I don't understand this logic because if they're centralized, dangerous,
Starting point is 00:59:39 starvation vulnerabilities, why would they try and make more of it? You just explained it. Like they want to control people's food? These are not good people, bro. You're thinking under the see, this is the problem that normal decent, kind, and compassionate
Starting point is 00:59:55 people have is they, it's really hard to understand someone like willfully doing something that is cruel or harmful to others. You can't get your head around it because you're always trying to think, well, they must mean well. And there are people who don't.
Starting point is 01:00:11 There are people who don't, right? There are people who do not care about human beings and do not care about humanity, and they're not good people. So you can't view them through this lens of them wanting to help you. I'll give you a good example. Adam Kinzinger. Okay. I think he's the perfect example of he doesn't care about people.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Who's that? I'm not sure I'm familiar. He's a Republican on the January 6th committee. Okay. And he's going off and off about Trump and how the Republicans are bad and all that stuff. But this guy's not running for reelection. All he's doing is setting fire to the house as he leaves. He could say, look, clearly this is not for me.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Clearly what's happening in this country is a problem. I'm out. I'm leaving right now. Instead, he says, I'm not going to run for re-election, but I am going to inflame tensions to the most extreme degree possible, starting fires before I go. There's no reason to do that. It's a real thing. I mean, dude, you see this on a small scale on social media every day, right? There are people on there.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Fortunately, they don't have like giant followings or a lot of influence and power, but they're purely destructive, right? It's purely destructive and malicious energy. There's nothing positive that they're doing. They're literally just there trying to hurt people, trying to bully people, trying to attack people, and they're doing it day in, day out, right? Now, you take someone with that type of psychology and you actually put them in a position of power and influence like what are they going to do again we we've we've seen this in history um and there are people like that who exist it's a very very tiny minute fragment of the population but there are eight billion people in this world perhaps so there are millions and millions of uh yeah trolls perhaps an emergent phenomenon
Starting point is 01:01:46 where troll will ever become taboo to say right perhaps it's an emergent phenomenon that when meritocratic individuals create a safe and secure society it protects individuals who normally would not survive those people who can't survive who use words like adulting because they can't live on their own without someone, like, better adulting, okay, like, well, you might have to fight a bear for food one day or something. These people can't survive. You end up with a large portion of anti-meritocratic individuals who don't make systems work. They vote against the interests of those who do, and the system flips over.
Starting point is 01:02:19 The boat collapses. The strong, of course, climb up, learn to swim and survive, and all of those weak people get gulagged or whatever. It's the adaptable. It's the ones that get capsized and figure out how to get to shore to rebuild society again that are the ones that survive it. And the strongest may just go down because they don't think quick enough. They're so used to their own system that they've created, and they're very good at it that when the system capsizes, they don't understand. Right, but that's basically what it means. It doesn't mean a guy who can lift 50 pounds it literally means those who are capable intelligent and understand are likely to perceive threats plan ahead effectively and survive it's a darwin quote it's not the
Starting point is 01:02:59 strongest of the species that will survive but the ones that are most adaptable to change right so basically i that's the general concept yeah when when a crisis is happening who's most adaptable to change well first and foremost the people paying attention who are watching it come and they aren't connected to any one ideology let's say there's a bunch of people in a tribe on an island and half of them have been noticing something weird happening on the shoreline they're're paying attention. And the other people are like, we don't care. We don't care. Nothing's going to happen.
Starting point is 01:03:27 Well, the people who noticed the change are the ones who are more adaptable. And then they go, we're going to go climb that hill real quick. And then the tsunami comes and everyone else gets wiped away. Yeah. People that are like, God will save me. Like, get that out of your mind right now. You save yourself. Perhaps.
Starting point is 01:03:47 I mean, I disagree with that framing of your mind right now you save yourself perhaps i mean i disagree with that framing of it no one at least i hope no one thinks that like i don't know if they're on the street and they get mugged that jesus is going to come save them from getting mugged i don't think they think that they're talking about their spiritual you can't just duck and cover on their physical i i know it's it's comforting to think that there's a being that's protecting you, but it's not. You've got to protect yourself in this harsh reality. I mean, they're talking about spiritual protection, not
Starting point is 01:04:14 like famine won't happen because Jesus will save us from famine. If I pray enough, it's not going to not happen. No one thinks that. I hope so. It's the harsh ideology. Suffering is like the cornerstone of like the christian faith so buddhism too some people some people certainly believe it there are people who believe that god is a man in the clouds like sitting there watching everybody that's just one ideology
Starting point is 01:04:38 don't think the government's gonna save you don't think god's gonna save you don't think your neighbor's gonna save you like you have to protect yourself and your interests. What's the saying? God helps those who help themselves. Yeah, it's true. There's another saying, chance favors the prepared. You can call it any way you want it. If you are not doing what you have to do to be prepared for what might be happening, well, then what's going to happen?
Starting point is 01:04:59 I think options are always good. And I think that something that people should really know by now is to just, just have options, right? Have options in terms of places you can live, ways you can earn money, things you can do. Don't be so, I don't know, like maybe because of how I've grown up and the fact that I travel so much, I've got, I know I have a different view than most people. But I think that we were talking about the big cities. And I think that something that really happens, of course, is just inertia. Right.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Like it's hard to if you're used to a place, especially if you've grown up somewhere and you live there and your friends and families are there and it's what you know, it's hard to up and move. I understand that. It can be difficult emotionally. It can be financially. You might have a job or a career. I'm not saying that it's just super duper easy for everybody. But I think that seeing where just the level of uncertainty in so much of this stuff, it is wise to just bear that in mind and take steps.
Starting point is 01:06:07 Don't just sit there and say, oh, you know, the end is coming. It's like, okay, take some steps. If you haven't already been doing it over the past few years, take some steps so that if stuff does hit the fan or you are getting very uncomfortable or whatever it is, you've got options. Having options is always wise. Let me pull up this story from Fox 4. New proposal would give ID cards to illegal immigrants,
Starting point is 01:06:29 could be used for air travel. So I decided to research some basic definitions. Do you know what a country is defined as? Anybody know what a country is defined as? A country? Yes. How do you define the word country? I can give what I think is a definition it might
Starting point is 01:06:46 not match up exactly let's hear it um i would say an area or region with a some degree of jurisdiction over it and board has to have a border who The region has jurisdiction? It's like a rock monster owns the land that it is? Yeah, I would say, okay, a piece of land or a region with a border, it's got some geographical... And you need one more component. ...capacity, and then some type of governance structure.
Starting point is 01:07:21 People. People. A country is defined as a nation with set borders. Okay. And a nation is a group of people with a shared history and set of laws. History, culture, or set of laws. Okay. So when you combine that, you have nation and country.
Starting point is 01:07:35 They're not the same thing. The United States is a country. Okay. It is a nation with borders. So when we have a wave of a million plus illegal immigrants entering the country, then you have no country if the borders can't be enforced. So the Latin for country is against or opposite. And then the other part of it from the medieval Latin is against a lying opposite land. So you're literally in opposition to the other land that is close to you.
Starting point is 01:07:59 So when you have a million people under the borders and there's nothing being done about it, when you have the government facilitating the trafficking of children, which the Biden administration has been doing in the dead of night secretly, there's no borders. No. You have no country. Now, about that nation. Yes. A shared history. Well, you don't have a shared history with people coming from other nations entering in violation of your laws. So there's no shared history and there's shared laws, and there's no shared culture.
Starting point is 01:08:25 There is no nation. There is no country. Giving ID cards to illegal immigrants that could be used for air travel, this is just creating open citizenship. Why do you think they're doing this? Again, this is destroying the United States. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:08:39 To me, this is the controlled demolition again, because it's like, well, why would you do that? Let me simplify real quick for everybody at home. Zuby, let's say you have a big granary. Let's say you have a big storage facility full of food. And your guards open the doors and say, everybody, come on in. And you're like, but that's where I keep all my stuff. And they're like, bigot.
Starting point is 01:09:04 So look, this country is wealthy. But you can't just have an endless flow of people coming in. Even Bernie Sanders said the exact same thing at a rally in 2015. He said, heavens, if we open the borders, we'd be flooded by the world's poor. We can't do that. Yeah, back when Bernie cared about the working class, I guess. I think that people believe that the avalanche only flows one direction. And so they're just getting on board.
Starting point is 01:09:27 They're trying to surf the wave. They're like nationalism is done. Globalism is now one earthen country. And let's just do it. And not possible. Yeah, it doesn't seem it's going to be abrupt. And a lot of people will get hurt in the process. But like, no, it's just a world government.
Starting point is 01:09:43 Duh. People definitely seem to want that. I'm going to call it the liberal international economy, by the way. That's L-I-E from here on out. Yeah, I love it. It's the lie. So when you go to Egypt, for instance, Egyptians aren't allowed to gamble or eat pork, like by government law.
Starting point is 01:10:00 So how are we supposed to have a one world government when it's like, we're going to get a big shipment of pork in for our bacon, and then a bunch of other countries are like, no, no, no. Our tax dollars can't go to that. You're not allowed to do that. That's essentially what they're trying to do, making entertainment into something global. Yeah, it doesn't work. It can't fit.
Starting point is 01:10:17 You know what global entertainment is? There's not even a common language. Like, you can't even communicate properly with most people in the world. Let me tell you guys. You ever see the Just for laugh gags? No. Oh, I think so. They're like those YouTube videos where there's one where it's really funny. A little girl, she has four buckets. One's, two of them are full, complete with change. Then two of them have a
Starting point is 01:10:36 false top with change on top. And so she walks over or she has like, she like waves someone over and then she asks them for help carrying. She grabs the fake light buckets. It's like a little girl, and she carries them. And the other people try to lift the heavy things full of change. They can't do it. And they're like, how is this little girl carrying this? There's no dialogue at all, just music. This was entertainment made for a global audience, not a word being said.
Starting point is 01:10:58 So when you want to create global entertainment, no dialogue. That's how the trailer for Avatar was the second avatar movie all just like b-roll of cgi oceans and aliens and jungles and like ambient music and i'm like what am i watching right now what is the story there's none it's just that's it yeah yeah i'm not worried about one low iq that one's that one's not gonna happen i. I mean, no, I think it will happen, just not now. You think it will happen? I think it's an inevitability. I think it's impossible to avoid.
Starting point is 01:11:28 How so? Why do you think that? So technological advancement, the rapid communications development is going to result in a global shared culture, just not anytime soon. By soon, I mean like five to 10 years. But you give it a couple of generations, especially if we have air travel, then I think it's possible to have one world government through cultural expansion, but they're also shutting down, uh, air travel, but they're also creating metaverse and virtual reality.
Starting point is 01:11:59 So already I used to play video games with people in Oceania and China and Japan, like World of Warcraft, for instance. Those people are friends. They have cultural bonds stronger than their next-door neighbors. That's the kind of thing that precipitates one-world government. That's why. I don't think most people are going to have any remote interest in that. I think it's an extraordinarily hard sell. What is?
Starting point is 01:12:22 I don't think you're not going to get the majority of the world onto VR and the metaverse and all that. I don't think so. I think you will. I don't know if it will be the iteration that we're seeing now. But, bro, we're already there. You live on Twitter. That's your virtual person. I'm not normal.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Like you'll get some people. There's 8 billion plus people in this world and most people live in lives nothing like what we've got. And what did Mark Zuckerberg, Google, and Starlink, and Elon Musk, what have they been trying to do over the past 10 years? They're trying to connect people in various ways. They had Project Loon, where they were like, can we get internet to the middle of Africa with giant balloons floating in the stratosphere, broadcasting. We've got low-orbit satellite technology.
Starting point is 01:13:03 They know they need to wire all of these people. That's what I'm saying. Once you get everybody on the internet and there's such luxury that comes with being online, such advantage, that's what precipitates the expansion. I think you'll get everyone on the internet. I don't think you're going to get everyone running around in headsets or sitting there. Well, that's, that's like saying, I can't imagine everyone's going to put a vinyl record player in their home or like it's Joe Biden saying. I think these are really different. I think they're quite different.
Starting point is 01:13:29 When we get to the point where your Neuralink implant is put in at birth and you don't have a say in the matter, yeah, we'll get there. What makes you – why be so pessimistic in that? I assume you think this is a bad thing. It's not pessimistic. Do you think that's a bad thing? I think it's a neutral thing. I think people – yeah, I think that's a bad thing uh i think it's an it's a neutral thing i think people uh yeah i think it's a relatively neutral thing i don't i think technology is not good or bad i do i do i do think it leans toward the bad because we know corrupt people will
Starting point is 01:13:53 exploit all of this for for personal gain and we could potentially end up in an equilibrium type future where everyone has their emotions and thoughts suppressed and the global leaders live freely and enjoy the perks of being human yeah But ultimately, look, look what Twitter has done. Look what Facebook and YouTube have become. The rapid expansion of social media in only 10 years. People are going online and they're already existing with a digital version of themselves. And it's only expanded more and more. Maybe Mark Zuckerberg's legless metaverse is not going to be the version of wire that everyone gets into. But already, AOC, for instance, is not representing New York's 14. She's representing progressive Twitter.
Starting point is 01:14:33 She gets money because one person in every city may have a fringe worldview, but together online, they make up a massive, powerful economic block. They support someone like AOC, and then she wins. Her ideas are unpopular and wouldn't have won. But because all of the weird fringe far left people were able to raise money online. So that created something that exists outside of a nation. I saw this back going to 2010. And we've seen it further. Look at Ukraine.
Starting point is 01:15:02 Look at warfare over the past 10 years when you have individual actors joining nation states in conflict, when hackers in the United States were aiding in the revolutions in North Africa and the Middle East. This is global government. When you have U.S. citizens teaming up with a network of citizens and then going and fighting in Ukraine, this is global government. It is the precursor. It's coming. I don't think so. We precursor. It's coming.
Starting point is 01:15:25 I don't think so. We'll see. We need one. I don't know if we need it, but one language. You had mentioned earlier that everybody speaks one language. I thought English, it would be English just because of capitalism and the way corporatism is putting McDonald's all over the place and people watch Hollywood movies. I thought for sure the whole world will be speaking English.
Starting point is 01:15:42 It will be considered common in D&D. But I don't know if that's the case now. No, I'll be Mandarin. We need to get Internet to everybody and fresh water to everybody. And then I think in order for a global government. Just take the Internet away from people. I thought you were saying we don't need to. I kind of do because I think the other option is self-destruction. If we don't connect, we'll fight unless we're together.
Starting point is 01:16:06 Is the internet togetherness? It's a form of unity for sure. Like what we're doing right now, there's like 50,000 people watching live or something like that. It's intense unity. I disagree that that's a community though. Yeah, not everyone needs to be unified for there not to be severe conflict. You can't unify everybody. Like people are just too freaking different, but not necessarily like we all have to do the same thing,
Starting point is 01:16:27 but that we all have some sort of common purpose or ideal. I mean, we do as human beings. I mean, I think that's always existed. Um, but past a certain level, um,
Starting point is 01:16:37 people, people are, are too different and people have such different interests and you, you travel around the world to go to different countries. They're not all, I, I, people need conflict. Yeah. They're not all – People need conflict.
Starting point is 01:16:46 They're not all joining. They don't need to fight, but they need conflict. It's hard enough to reunite the USA. They need conflict resolution. It's hard enough to unite the USA, let alone the world. One proposed hypothesis. I'm not an evolutionary biologist, psychologist, or anthropologist. But why is it that Europe advanced more than the Americas? Why did the Native
Starting point is 01:17:06 American populations... Coffee. Man, did they go on nitro when they inserted coffee into their... Proximity. The European tribes were... Roman roads. They were boxed in a peninsula with very little room to flee to. So when resources would become strained,
Starting point is 01:17:23 they'd kill each other to survive, causing a tit-for-tat they'd kill each other to survive, causing a tit-for-tat expansion of technologies in order to survive. In the Americas, it was so vast, the tribes would just leave. So if you look at animals, for instance, badgers, why are they so vicious? They're burrowing animals. They have one dimension. When they're confronted with an attacker at the front of their burrow, they can can either fight or they can die so of course natural selection predicted that they'd be vicious birds why don't birds attack you why do they run away because they have multiple dimensions they have three dimensions you go up and leave so they're much less likely to do to require conflict more likely to survive if you
Starting point is 01:17:59 escape the battle in europe you had humans nowhere to escape to. It's a peninsula. So in certain parts, it's like, fight or don't. In the Americas, it's like, I got everywhere else to be, so I'm not going to fight you if I don't have to. When two different groups of people are fighting next to each other for a long enough period of time, they're constantly one-upping each other. It's an artificial evolutionary conflict happening technologically. So if humans today stopped fighting and there was no conflict, what would they do? Play video games all day? Not much, yeah. Watch porn all day?
Starting point is 01:18:34 And this is what we're starting to see. There's no conflict, so what do people do? It's WALL-E. Get fat, sit in their lounge chairs, and complain and just want free stuff to be pleasured and gratified. That's what happens. Yeah. One thing I've been thinking about a lot recently, especially when it comes to children now or the next generation and so on is, you know, I think everyone understands and realizes that as human beings, as individuals, and even as a wider society, you need conflict and struggle and hardship in order to develop a
Starting point is 01:19:09 resilience, right? Develop grit, resilience, a stronger personality, ability to withstand stuff. And I think so many of the problems that we have right now when we're dealing with in the West, as Tim's alluded to already, is just people are weak. People are fragile emotionally. Oh my gosh, you misgendered me. Like the whole world, it's all based in weakness. It's based in victimology. You know, nerf the world instead of making yourself stronger. That's really been the attitude for quite a while now.
Starting point is 01:19:37 And I often wonder if there is a way. Maybe the answer is no. But is there a way to rather without having taking people through this certain grind of hardship is there a way to consistently say raise strong minded and even physically strong children without you know who aren't just going to grow up to be these these lame snowflakes or whatever you want to call them without having to go through necessarily all the same nonsense that their parents or ancestors did. There's a viral post. It's hilarious where someone, some Antifa person is like,
Starting point is 01:20:14 you better believe the right is arming up and training, and you better be as equally trained and armed as they are for the coming conflict. And what do you think the left's response was to that? When we say the left, who do we mean? Leftists, Antifa, et cetera. What was their response to someone on the left saying,
Starting point is 01:20:33 you need to start training and get ready for a conflict with the right? You can't tell me what to do. No. No. Some of us aren't physically capable. Your tweet is ableist.
Starting point is 01:20:44 Oh, wow. Why? And then they apologize saying, we understand that not everyone aren't physically capable. Your tweet is ableist. Oh, wow. That's wild. And then they apologize saying, we understand that not everyone is able to physically train and there are other ways to help. That was so sad. A lot of them just ended up saying,
Starting point is 01:20:56 man, I'm just so depressed. It's fine if it all works. Was this on Twitter? Yep. One guy was like, yo, I'm depressed. Just use me as a human shield. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:21:04 What the heck? You know why? I know why they're depressed too. Jordan Peterson, yo, I'm depressed. Just use me as a human shield. Oh, wow. What the heck? You know what? I know why they're depressed too. Jordan Peterson, man. He killed it. He's, well, the depression, he's killing it. He's saving young people in general if they just listen to him. Yo, people are depressed because they have no purpose.
Starting point is 01:21:19 They have no drive, no internal conflict, no responsibility. They're just sitting around, staying on the TV, like, what for? Yeah, you have to – I mean one thing I know for myself, right, because I'm not even going to – I'm not sitting here pretending, oh, I came from some rough background or whatever. Like I'm blessed. Like I'm super privileged in many regards. But I've had – I've created my own hardship in many ways, right? Like there are ways that, you know, in terms of your, whether it's your career or it's, I mean, what, what even is going to the gym, going to the gym is going and artificially creating, artificially creating resistance, whether to, to build your lung
Starting point is 01:21:58 capacity or improve your cardiovascular system or increase your muscles. Like our ancestors would be like, what on earth are, what, what's, what's everyone in this room doing why don't you just do your farm work or do your work i i was i was talking about this recently we had uh we purchased like wild caught salmon or whatever yeah and i was like so people in the u.s who have money can order fresh fish lower to middle class people get garbage farm fish and then third world poor people eat fresh fish and so the funny thing is like we have a lake out here you're allowed to fish but you got to throw the fish back okay and i was like that's the stupidest thing i ever heard not not i understand we gotta throw the fish back i'm just like why go fishing for
Starting point is 01:22:40 no reason it's like people like simulating survival exactly dude that's what it all is why are people so drawn to sport yeah right like so many of the things that we do when we find impressive it's like you're making your life harder than it needs to be you're you're creating the artificial um pressures and why are so many people now getting into to mma and combat sports and stuff like that's because you need to you're not going to get it in your day-to-day life right you don't need to do anything i say we do away with war we replace it we we replace it with the sporting event soccer maybe i don't know football the olympics football or soccer yeah well that'll be whoever wins gets to name it
Starting point is 01:23:20 it certainly helps i also by the way i think think this is part of why so many people snapped in 2020 because all the usual outlets for energy and tension and even just the social... It was just allowed to pile up. Zuby, where is everybody? Where is everybody? So we got a pilot shortage,
Starting point is 01:23:40 right? We have like medical worker shortages. We've got labor shortages across the board. Didn't they fire a bunch of people last year but how do people just stop working where does that food come from um food is very easy to acquire but oh oh sorry you mean if these people stop working how are they paying their rent um sorry wait let's okay so we have a pilot airlines are shutting down thousands of flights okay i wasn't even aware of that yeah pilot shortage is this specifically in the usa all over i think it's all over the world okay i mean it's heavily in the u.s i follow u.s news but uh pilot shortage and i'm like where did those pilots go did they just stop working and if they
Starting point is 01:24:18 did how are they paying their bills how are they buying food but it's not just that you go to fast food restaurants they got signs on the door saying like, we're understaffed. I've seen that. All over the place. We went out on Memorial Day weekend. Nobody. I'm like, where are the people at? Where'd they all go? Where are the workers? How is it that people stopped working and didn't start working again? I don't understand. Like you're a pilot. What are you going to do? Go be a mailman? Why would you do that? You're a pilot. I don't know. I'm not familiar with pilot. What are you going to do? Go be a mailman? Why would you do that? You're a pilot. I don't know. I'm not familiar with the pilot thing at all.
Starting point is 01:24:48 Why do you mean generally speaking? Yeah. How is there a shortage of these jobs? Are they just choosing not to hire them back or something? But where is everybody else? How is the people stopped working and they're not working now? Where's their food coming from? How are they paying utilities? How are they paying rent or mortgages?
Starting point is 01:25:02 I don't know. I'm not super familiar with this issue, so I don't really know what's been happening here. I'm concerned that there's a black market evolving that people don't know about. And I'm really concerned that people, great, amazing humans that got screwed over by the last two years' worth of mandates and whatever, running out of money, are going to turn to nefarious things to get by, like human trafficking and things like that. I, man, I'd be cautious of predicting something that dark. Yeah, I just want to get it on the table now. So in 10 years, you guys remember I said it first, to put nothing past anyone in desperate times. I made the joke to Seamus that the rapture happened.
Starting point is 01:25:42 And then he was like, well, certainly it couldn't have, you know, because he's devout catholic so it's like hey wait a minute you know what are you saying but uh no man look we i mean obviously i see people out doing stuff we went played pool the other day and had wings good fun a lot of people out there playing pool on a weekend but when you hear about all these labor shortages and when i go to uh like a like a chipotle and they're like we're understaffed please bear with us i'm, how is it possible that people just aren't working? There is a lot of laziness as well. And again, inertia. I get it. But like, how do they, how are they getting by? But hasn't this always been a question? I mean, there are lots of, there's millions and millions and millions of people
Starting point is 01:26:19 who don't work and haven't been working for a long time and they somehow get but i don't know if it's just welfare or if it's i don't even know what all the schemes and stuff like that are um i just work you know we just work but there are millions of people in this country in any country who don't work but but they're alive yeah i suppose i don't know exactly what they do have we expanded the welfare state to such a point that we can have labor shortages and keep giving them money? Maybe. I honestly have no idea what the welfare structure looks like here, how much more money is being spent now than was two or three years ago. I have no idea what any of that looks like.
Starting point is 01:26:59 So they say that the poor people in the U.S. rival some of the richer people in Europe because our welfare system is incredibly deep there's a lot of layers to it so i think that might be where they're all going i think that over the course of the pandemic they realized oh my gosh i don't really have to work i'm not essential right i can work from home people have pointed out retirement but that doesn't explain fast food restaurants that doesn't explain yogurt shops and burger burger joints i know retirement is one of the ones for pilots because i did see something saying that they're not training up enough new pilots. They're raising the age over time, too. Oh, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:32 Wow. Yeah. Just quit? Yeah, so there aren't enough people being incentivized to become pilots to compensate for the older ones who are leaving. This is what bothers me. The U.S. government printed all that money in the last two years and then just started handing it out to people. You're, you're making, you're sending people towards bankruptcy and then they're going to stop paying their taxes because they can't afford to survive you fools. And then if they're not, then you're gonna have
Starting point is 01:27:55 a revolution on your hands. The USA, the USA is such a, it's, it's such a fascinating country because one thing that Americans always, always forget is how young this country is. I always say that the USA is a teenager as far as countries go. And also it's a giant teenager with 50 states. It's an angry teenager with a desert eagle. Like there's so many things that are unique about the USA that make it genuinely impossible to properly compare to any other country in the world. It's got so many things that are absolutely unique. I mean, even if someone said, oh, let's, well, let's compare it to all of Europe. It's like, that's maybe that's a better comparison
Starting point is 01:28:38 than to one country in Europe. But it's also, it's so, so different in so many ways. Abusive father. You know, Kim George just beat the hell out of him. I got this angry rage from our childhood. Yeah, we had to emancipate ourselves. We had to run away from home. Like at age 12, it was crazy. Sibling is still up there acting all wacky and elitist.
Starting point is 01:29:00 I love it. The left has this meme where they're like, the United States, Canada must feel like they've got like a dysfunctional sibling who's, you know, walking around with guns. And I'm like. Who's the size of a toddler? Maybe. I kind of think it's like, you know, Canada is the snooty, frail, you know, sibling. Canada is the Aunt Karen. Canada didn't run away from home like America did.
Starting point is 01:29:20 No, but we were the children of, you know, the crown. And so Canada was like, why are you fighting? Just do what Father says. And we were like, no. Let me out! Let me out! Honestly, every time I look at a map or a globe, I'm always like, I look at the geographical size of the UK,
Starting point is 01:29:38 or Great Britain even, which is even smaller, and I'm just like, how? Physics. It's like the size of new jersey isaac newton isaac newton developed physics so england got the cannons first and then they could hit long range with their boats so they dominated the world yeah conquered india yeah no i i know how it happens i just look at the size of the country it's amazing what technology can do for a small like a piece of tech that nuclear power is kind of like that nuclear weaponry like israel is heavily
Starting point is 01:30:03 armed right now they're massively influential on the world stage well we give them money so they can build weapons yes there you go the federal reserve prints money i'm british but i'm assuming the the british also contribute oh yeah we put a bunch of money into uh iraq and afghanistan sudan and um sudan a ton of U.S. dollars goes into. There's a map showing you all the spending. And it's funny because you get these certain countries that get all of the attention, like in the Middle East or Israel. And then you're like, have you taken a look at Central America and Africa, man? Because we put way more into some of these African countries and these conflicts.
Starting point is 01:30:42 Why Sudan? It may not be Sudan anymore. This was years ago. Didn't we just deploy troops to Sudan recently? I believe so. Conflicts? It's so hard to keep track of even what's... I totally understand
Starting point is 01:30:58 why some people just check out of politics completely and are like, Oh my gosh, I tried to read a bill. The language is intentionally obfuscatory. It's i tried to read a bill the language is intentionally obfuscatory it's it's it's so boring to read you gotta like get into that state of weird way and thus we have decreed that act one colon section cb3c2413 uh and then you're like what in the hell are you doing instead of writing writing a bill that says, here's what the bill does, it will say, the language of this bill is changed to read in Section 2A3, quote, and will include, end quote, to be in place of Section 491, quote, AR-15, quote. And you're like, I got to pull up these other bills and then replace words to understand what your what your bill does
Starting point is 01:31:45 and they don't give you the other bill with the bill that's intentional and then they slip a little like and a hundred thousand troops will be sent to sudan but they say it in a little weird way and like page 72 subsection 3 and then name the bill something nice that nobody can disagree yeah i wish joe biden would just come out and just be as overt as trump was sometimes you know because trump was like we're going to be selling weapons to Saudi Arabia. It's great. It's going to be great for our economy. The entirety of the anti-war left was just like, he just said it.
Starting point is 01:32:13 He just came out and said it. They were like, do you guys remember that meme where Trump tweeted something? And this journalist goes, I have been investigating this story for a year. For a year, I've dedicated my career to finding out what was going on this meeting and he just tweeted it out he just he just said it it's like all my work that's trump yeah that's so biden if he came out and he was like look listen here champ we're gonna open the borders destroy this country send your kids overseas to die that way china wins come on i'd be like yeah right i'm like all right well there it is on the table we're about to hit up some super chats
Starting point is 01:32:51 but i wanted to ask you about your book because we have not talked about it much this is a children's book that you just created what's the what's the plot sure so the plot is um so i think it's important to say so it's a collaboration Brave Books, and they're a company based in Texas that put out a new children's book every month. They work with a range of different authors and influencers on this. So I wanted to do one that was, a lot of their books are more conservative leaning, more politically charged, but for a young audience. But I wanted to do one that's totally apolitical. I'd written a fitness book before. I'm very passionate about health and fitness and taking care of your body.
Starting point is 01:33:30 And oddly, there aren't that many books aimed at the younger demographic on that topic. So I was like, you know what, let me do something that's completely apolitical. Childhood obesity is rising everywhere. Adulthood obesity continues to rise. And we need to talk about health and fitness and why this is important. So the story is about a group of friends. They're animal characters. And I won't give away the complete plot. But they're out in the desert.
Starting point is 01:33:59 And there is an incident where some pirates come and they raid them. And they're not in good enough shape, essentially essentially to chase them off and to fight them away. So they're there. They retreat back and they're just there eating all their candy and like lazing around. And then eventually one of them is like, look, guys, we – that was our bad. We need to get in shape. And so they go and they train and they get jacked. And then the next time the uh
Starting point is 01:34:26 the bad guys come they manage to chase them away and then well that that's basically the full plot right it's the plot it's the plot but it's uh yeah it's more fun and it and i made it all rhyme as a rapper i had to make sure that my children's book would rhyme all right let's go to super chats if you haven't already would you kindly smash that like button subscribe to this channel and share the show if you really do like it. Post that URL everywhere. Head over to TimCast.com. We're going to have a members-only, uncensored show going up at about 11 p.m. tonight.
Starting point is 01:34:52 We also have The Green Room with Carrie Lake, which is up. So if you're a big fan of her, and we definitely are, you can watch that, as well as Tales from the Inverted World. I believe it's episode four is officially up. And we're doing a whole lot of stuff. Big announcements to come soon, but let's read some super chats. Caleb W. says, sitting in a hospital, awaiting the birth of my second son. What a great way to celebrate MAGA month with Zuby. Kids are the best.
Starting point is 01:35:13 Here, here. Mr. Slytrip says, do you think every governor, DeSantis included, whom shut down a church for a day, violated the first paragraph of the First Amendment by making a pseudo law against establishments of religion and or our right to peaceably assemble. Of course, that was a violation
Starting point is 01:35:28 of the Constitution. That's it. I don't know. What else? All right. Gadsden says, Tim Pool is Ben Shapiro if you gave him a skateboard
Starting point is 01:35:36 when he was a kid instead of a violin. Yes. I was actually given a drum kit when I was like seven. And then a guitar when I was like 12.
Starting point is 01:35:44 So maybe. But Ben Shapiro had a really funny joke. I went, when we were at the Daily Wire, actually given a drum kit when i was like seven so i and then a guitar when i was like 12 so maybe but uh ben shapiro had a really funny joke i went when we had the daily wire i was playing mario kart with him and uh i was destroying michael knolls i think it was knolls shapiro and maybe matt walsh pretty sure it was my wash and we were playing mario kart 64 and i just mopped the floor with him because i I'm good at Mario Kart, right? So I did the wall jump in Wario Stadium, cut the course in half. Michael Knowles was flabbergasted, didn't understand how he was in first place. And then I missed the jump a couple times, and all of a sudden I just jump and boom, I'm at the end of the level in first place.
Starting point is 01:36:17 Ben Shapiro was just like, yeah, I spent most of my childhood studying and then going to law school. I wasn't playing video games. And then he was like, he said a funny joke. He was like, ladies and gentlemen, here's Tim Pool. He spent his childhood playing video games and skateboarding while I went to law school. He makes the same amount of money as me. I was like, I don't have any funny jokes, but I can beat you at Mario Kart. All right.
Starting point is 01:36:40 Raymond G. Maga Stanley Jr. says, I love the Tim Pool Trump quote, the bestest best. Yeah, we were trying to figure out what to put on the Times Square billboards, and so we had two joke ones. My brother, whose character is Reactor, said, the best podcast I, a 25 to 54-year-old male, has ever listened to. And then mine was, it's the best podcast, everybody agrees, at least that's what I was told. I literally was told that, though. It is true. I can't remember who it was they came on the show a couple people have said like everybody says it's like the best show
Starting point is 01:37:08 man i think bannon said that something like that yeah he thought your producer was really great too he did just say yeah maybe we should have bannon back now they're going after him all right gray's fang says let those of us using paypal to transfer payment methods without having to cancel also twitter, Twitter actively protects and supports pedophilia at Tim Pool. I mean, but that's the same in effect. There's numerous news stories talking about them doing it.
Starting point is 01:37:33 I was like, okay, you want to play these games with me, Twitter? I'll call out these news stories. That's what I do. For those of you that use PayPal on the website, I think most of you don't have to do anything. If you signed up with PayPal for a PayPal on the website, I think most of you don't have to do anything.
Starting point is 01:37:45 If you signed up with PayPal for a membership on the website, eventually it'll just automatically process through parallel economy and you don't got to do anything. If you used a PayPal account to do it, then I don't, I don't know for sure. So, um, but I will stress this again to tell your friends, we have been working really hard to get PayPal off the site as our payment processor and to use parallel economy so we can support new technology from companies that don't hate you or at the very least like you a little bit. Better than nothing, right? All right. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:38:22 Azalea Primrose says, is Mary one of the ghosts of the civil war that followed shane back to work i know if a ghost followed me home i would be speechless by michael and let's not forget about hong kong chickens all right very good bravo bravo well mary uh i might be he's not doing a good job of finding me he's looking around like where are the ghosts sitting here on the show apparently all right let's see rommel says hey guys my dog personally wanted to thank y'all for the new camera locations in chicken city he said he very much enjoys watching for coyotes and the new cameras let him clear the perimeter much better he has 20 bones appreciate it great yeah uh chicken city has some major improvements roberto j Jr. is the superstar. He's up on a 96-foot billboard in Times Square. I'm very, very happy and proud of that.
Starting point is 01:39:10 Chance Jones says, Tim, did you see Lauren Southern's recap video of the whole truth? She gave you a pretty good shout-out. I did not see it. I'm glad to hear, though. Lauren's really cool. I think she's great, and she's going to come hang out soon. That's correct.
Starting point is 01:39:22 So super excited. I was wondering. I know people were mentioning she put out a video about like the truth about behind the scenes and how fake people were. And I was like, I wonder what she'd say about me. But I think Lauren's very legit. Alright.
Starting point is 01:39:36 Let's see what we got here. More super chits. Ben Andering says, hey Tim, I want to help you set up your coffee slash game shop. I sent an email to your info email and sent you a letter in the mail. I want to help fight the culture war. The first thing we're doing is we are trying to find a venue. And that's rather difficult. But we've got some there in the West Virginia area. We're looking at one in Martinsburg. We're looking at some in Charlestown. We've got to figure out how we're going to do it. And then, you know, the idea is these, these towns in West
Starting point is 01:40:08 Virginia, they have like 30 to 40,000 people and they're very small, but if you build it, they will come. At least that's what I've been told. You are right. So that's what we're going to do. We're going to create spaces and get everyone to want to come out here and get away from the cities. That's the plan, man. Aiden Chavez says, you guys should get Mike Glover from Fieldcraft Survival on. He said he was willing to go on. Love the show and the guests you have on. Zuby rocks. Zuby does indeed rock. We'll take a look
Starting point is 01:40:34 at this. Who is it? Mike Glover. I'm familiar. Spencer Hermanette says, the minute Timcast launches a mobile app, I will be ending my YouTube premium subscription and becoming a Timcast member. We're working on it. Yo, it's very difficult and expensive to do all this dev work, but we're working on it.
Starting point is 01:40:52 And, you know, the thing is, like, I know once we have a mobile app, like, we get more members, which means more money, which means we can build faster. And we're doing – we're going as fast as we can, I suppose. But we're on it. Maybe – yeah. You should integrate parallel economy into the app. Well, no, it is. It is. So the default method of payment on TimCast.com is parallel economy.
Starting point is 01:41:13 That means signing up at TimCast.com supports a Dan Bongino company. It opposes censorship, and it supports us more than anybody. But you've got to get more companies using parallel economy because I would be very happy if one day it was like, PayPal, you still use that? No, we use parallel economy. I'd never heard of it before.
Starting point is 01:41:32 I'm going to have to check it out. I did. PayPal? They've frozen over a million of its dollars. His rip-averse money. 1.3 million. No!
Starting point is 01:41:39 Not all of it because some of it was done... Some people paid directly on his website, but there was like 1.2 million frozen right now that he doesn't have access to. Eric, you've got to get on Parallel Economy. Can somebody in Parallel Economy? Well, it's too late now, right?
Starting point is 01:41:54 No, it's never too late. No, it's never too late. Well, it's too late for the people who paid. Maybe. Their money is being seized by PayPal. No, but I mean, there's no reason to keep using them. Of course. Look, I've got to be honest.
Starting point is 01:42:06 Parallel Economy is new. It took us time to build the infrastructure around using their service, but it has been really great. I got to be honest. Their website for tracking is way better than PayPal. PayPal is getting by on market dominance, and they haven't updated in a long time. At least that's the way it seems. So, yo, Eric, that's BS, man. We got gotta hit up
Starting point is 01:42:25 eric man have him back on the show and talk about that and on pop culture and on pop culture we talked about it today actually and we need to get the parallel economy guys to just mock 10 to getting eric set up with a better payment system parallel economy.com sign up you can apply i'm actually in the process of doing it right now. Wow, that's crazy, man. All right. We'll read some more. Maybe we'll come back to that. The Pyromaniac says Madison Cawthorn has introduced HR 8399.
Starting point is 01:42:53 It will partially or fully repeal the NFA. Hey, I'd love to see it. Madison lost his primary, though, didn't he? I don't know. I think so. Yeah. So, but I'm glad someone's doing it. All right. We got too many super glad someone's doing it. All right.
Starting point is 01:43:06 We got too many superchats. We got way too many. Western and Canadian Commentary says, I get 12-hour suspension twice daily with no noticeable effect. Thank you all for all your work. It was Timcast IRL that inspired me to move to the country a month ago. We have five veggies growing, and I get to clean up our chicken coop tomorrow isn't it so much fun when uh kim she's our uh chicken tender goes out sorry chicken tender
Starting point is 01:43:31 made me laugh well the best thing was when my when my brother was was running it his his his name is chris pool so he was chris p chicken tender oh wow but it's really i i you know it's so much fun watching chicken city when kim goes in because they chase her around because she's got food loves them the chickens are like this food's coming like you have to stand by her they're god yeah it's like some kind of giant creature walking around with a bucket full of cheeseburgers handing them out to people people are like oh give me one that's so weird right cheeseburgers all right aim t 2020 says elsagate sounds very similar to momo on youtube kids momo would threaten kids into turning on
Starting point is 01:44:13 the stove and other dangerous things around the house what that sounds like a horror movie wow yo that's crazy yeah that was creepy. John Galt says, Cat gone. Ian rejoins the conversation. Oh, I had to dig him out from underneath that chair over there. When he gets in a little hovel, he wants to play. He got Sharpie nails, so I got to lift up the chair
Starting point is 01:44:35 and kind of coax him out. Michael Mammoth says, Tim, would you host my full-length digital comics behind your paywall? Michael Mammoth for a 25, at Michael Mammoth for a 25 page issue let me write that down because the answer is yes if your comic is good i am writing down your name and um we talked about a long time ago the goal will ultimately be to have like everything
Starting point is 01:44:57 i would love to do like weekly manga releases or graphic novel releases you call manga we're not japanese but something like that because i'm a big fan of shonen jump for like 10 years i read every wednesday naruto scanlations i wonder if george alexopolis would do uh exclusive behind the paywall stuff we'll reach out to him george alexopolis is my favorite artist he's so good it is the most brilliant stuff ever we have his paintings up this Probably the best thing I've ever seen was when he drew the trade towers. And it says society and democracy on it. There's a trucker that says free speech flying into it. With a Klan hood.
Starting point is 01:45:34 It's amazing. That one wasn't the Klan hood, but the one where he made the truckers with the giant trucks having Klan hoods on them. He was mocking the New Yorker or something like that, how they like their style of comics. It was just G Prime 85 on Twitter, Instagram. You got to follow George. He's brilliant. He's a genius. So, yes, Michael, we will.
Starting point is 01:45:53 I'll take a look. All right. Michael also. Oh, I'm sorry. That was Michael. Augusto says 10 to 12,000 years ago, we rebelled against the Anunnaki ETs, and they want to enslave us again. Easier if we are weak and depopulated. Yes.
Starting point is 01:46:09 I don't think so, but okay. They did have flying machines, though. Yeah, didn't they want us to mine gold for them, for their atmosphere, because their atmosphere is elliptical, and so they need to keep the planet warm using gold particles? I see. I have no idea. I read the internet sometimes. Dave says, I've never had a Twitter account.
Starting point is 01:46:29 Now I want to sign up so I can scream groomer into the void and have the host of bots that make up Twitter ban me. Yep, that's about right. All right. We'll grab some more super jets. What is this? What is this? Christopher Mars says, I have an idea.
Starting point is 01:46:46 Let's print more money. Well, DeSantis is even doing it too. He announced he's going to give stimulus to people because of inflation. I'm like, oh yeah, that's, that's going to work. Okay. This is why you got to vote for Trump, I guess. And we'll see though. It's an attorney.
Starting point is 01:46:59 It's until 2024. But Trump saying he's going to fire everybody. That's, that's, you know, that's great. Craig shirt says we need the Tim cast. Speak your mind tour. Provide a safe's going to fire everybody. That's great. Craig Shirt says, we need the Timcast Speak Your Mind tour. Provide a safe place for people to speak. We are planning on, for one, opening up our own venue, which would have smaller local events. We would do like maybe one or two a month, Timcast IRL live Friday night, where it'll be at a venue, but it'll also still be live on YouTube and all that.
Starting point is 01:47:23 But we're also actually setting up some events. We looking at like miami nashville and austin i think to do the plan right now is we are going to do a friday night irl live which will be i think five hours long so um excellent very hard work for all of the timcast crew and then the speakers for the event actually just come in and join the podcast and then get up and leave like every hour. So we would have like, I think four or five guests. We would sit here the whole time. Granted,
Starting point is 01:47:54 I think honestly, I'd be the only one sitting here the entire time. Cause obviously we could have people come in. If Lydia needed a break and people, I was gonna go to the bathroom and stuff like that. Me, I'm, I would just sit there and,
Starting point is 01:48:03 you know, Oh, you got me the whole time. Yeah. I'm trained for this. The best part, though, is I'm thinking about how we're going to do the blocking for the table. So, like, everyone will be sitting on one side of the table. It'll be the weirdest thing ever.
Starting point is 01:48:14 Maybe levels. Maybe we can have people above, like, a riser. A 4D chess. Or we just do a table that's like an octagon. Oh, yeah. That could work. Yeah. And so people can see, you know, this big octagonal or something. Oh, we could do could work. Yeah. And so people can see this big octagonal or something.
Starting point is 01:48:26 Oh, we could do it in the round. You ever do theater in the round where the stage is in the middle and then people surround? Problem is you will see some people's backs. Yeah. But you see everybody else's fronts. But we'll figure it out. It'll be really, really cool. And then we'd have a Q&A from the audience and stuff.
Starting point is 01:48:42 It would be a whole lot of fun. A whole lot of fun. And we're looking at cities that have a lot of prominent individuals like Nashville and Austin. It's kind of obvious who we'd reach out to if we did something like that and have them on the show. It'd be really great. Speak your mind tour. We've talked about doing a tour
Starting point is 01:48:57 where we actually book in every major city. The problem is not possible. Just completely impossible to run a business while traveling. And so I've had one company say, we will get you a private plane every Friday after your morning show to fly out to the city when the show is ready to go.
Starting point is 01:49:13 And I was like, still really hard work. But maybe. We don't have the ability to do that. We have to sign a deal with someone I don't want to do. All right. Stefan Bukov says, Drex had a great interview with a furry.
Starting point is 01:49:27 Turns out they dress up because the anonymity provided by costumes allows them to do the most heinous and debaucherous acts while dissociating themselves from those acts.
Starting point is 01:49:35 Gross. Yeah, see, the thing is, I've actually talked to some furries. And the point is, the most innocent version of it, as I've been told, is it's a personal identity escapism.
Starting point is 01:49:45 That you're something else, you're someone else, and you have an affinity for the costume or whatever. And then I've heard that, that people do debaucherous things, but I don't... I've been told that's not like the core of it. The core of it is more of an identity thing. Okay. Rel says, Trump stopped funding the health organization buy-in reinstated funding ccp connection yeah i certainly think so shane man says hey zoobie being from the uk what's your favorite band from your homeland i can name so many great bands from the 60s 70s from the uk
Starting point is 01:50:17 interested in hearing what you were raised on thanks man i'm not that much of a band person i'm more of a hip-hop and rap person so i don't know if i have a favorite british band to be totally honest british band yeah i don't really have an answer there's tons of them it's just not really my main genre what about british hip-hop british hip-hop um is that called grime grime is is a subgenre. Okay. Subgenre of hip hop, really. I like a lot of British rappers. I like Stormzy, JME, Skepta, Getz. My friend Shaldo is really dope.
Starting point is 01:50:58 Who else am I into? Man, there's a lot. Those are the ones that come to my head right off the top. But I lot those are the ones that come off come to my head right off the top but i feel like i'm missing out some major ones but there's a lot of there's a lot of dope british hip-hop and grime now right on all right evil empire cigar society says i have a cigar show interviewing brand owners in the industry with people like the daily wirecast and crowder that enjoy them would you consider doing some content with us let's build that content arc i don't smoke so perhaps i don't know what we would do cigars all right you just puff on them for the taste don't inhale jay everett says alex jones is
Starting point is 01:51:37 right save alex jones yeah i think they're doing jury selection they announced that today or something oh boy going to court oh the gut is company man erastus of stett says there is a phrase in my church the wise man builds his house on the rock that's right you need to anchor yourself to something in order to be able to adapt ah very nice very nice crispy says ian's anti-christian rhetoric is becoming very grating i saw that super chat, actually. But the thing was, I'd never mentioned Christianity today. I did say at one point, don't think that God is going to save you. But if you think that means Christianity, then that's your echo chamber.
Starting point is 01:52:16 I don't. I'm just talking about the monolith. I think someone mentioned Christianity in response to that. But I'm just talking about... Well, if we're talking about the faith that this country has had up until very recently, it is Christianity, so that's what I assumed you were implying. I'm talking about the world and people having a belief that something external will save them, and I want to inspire people to save themselves. All right.
Starting point is 01:52:43 GLA Fonda says, Zuby, based Brother in in arms the decadent rot in the west has a spiritual component to it yes is the transhumanist agenda known as the great reset a mass ritual sacrifice to save the earth or to serve a more fiendish master i look i i don't i don't know exactly why certain things are happening. That's a huge question. That's a whole – I don't know. I don't know. The why is a confusing part.
Starting point is 01:53:26 But as I said, I think when you're dealing with actual evil, when you're dealing with genuine malice, if you are a decent, non-malicious, non-evil person, it can be really hard to understand the motive. The same same goes it's why it's so hard on you can't understand serial killers and stuff right like you're not meant to be able to understand it because you just don't even operate it was really like like aoc faking being in handcuffs it's freaking weird faking it yeah just to manipulate people yeah very weird isn't it yep and then later she was like it's because it's the safest thing to do so you don't get charged with resisting. It's like, lady, you're a sitting member of Congress at a sit-in being carried away to a VIP gathering area where you're going to stand and fist pump with a bunch of other members of Congress. And her friends did the same as well. They also pretended. I could see, though, if she was flailing her arms around as she was walking like this, then if someone mimicked her and did it and got hurt, then that would be a problem.
Starting point is 01:54:05 She would be responsible for it. Because people are going to watch her and be like, I want to be like her. Flailing her arms around. She's just walking in the coffin. If her arms were out when she was under arrest, that might be a problem for someone that wasn't her. Dude, come on. She was just acting. Yeah, she's just acting.
Starting point is 01:54:18 It's malicious evil. It is nihilism and it's pure. It's millennial nihilism too. It's this nothing matters but power. David Graeber said it before he passed, said the left has embraced the fascistic tenet, there is no truth but power. And that's exactly what they've been following and what they've been pursuing. Back to their roots.
Starting point is 01:54:37 The wild animals. And then people who get power just cause everyone to suffer and extract until finally they can't extract anything else. I was thinking today like a government can just take your company, turn it to zero, and seize everything if they want through force. Like what is there other than force? Not even force. They can literally just – they can just – Dissolve it. Dissolve your filing, yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:58 But then if you're like, well, I'm still going to sell my goods, they'll send feds or whatever to the house and be like no you're going to come with us i mean i guess there is some element of truth to the fact that everything in the world i mean one could argue that everything in the world that exists is ultimately at the end point backed up by violence or the threat of it right we got a good one here seems like it douglas todd says brain implants will become necessary due to competition how can someone without the implants compete with those that have them exactly tattoos you can have non-invasive graphene tattoos imagine not having a cell phone how would you get a job they'll be like you want to work here yes what's your phone number i don't
Starting point is 01:55:39 have one well how do i get in touch with you send me a letter be like okay no that's not going to happen it's like okay sure I'll send you a letter. That guy's got a cell phone. I'll text him instead. Okay, I only have a landline phone. I don't have a cell phone, so you can call me. Okay, well, what if there's an emergency and we need to get in touch with you for some reason? Oh, I don't know. Okay, well, if I hire that guy who's got a cell phone
Starting point is 01:55:57 and if a key goes missing or something, I can just text him. Yeah, I'm not going to hire the guy without a cell phone. Someone's going to have a brain implant and they're going to be like, oh, if anything happens, just interface with me, and I'll give you all the info. I say tattoo because eventually we'll be having removable tattoos on the back of our neck that can do the same thing the implant can do,
Starting point is 01:56:14 so you won't need invasive stuff. But how is it a tattoo? Graphene, electromagnetic, well, check them out, graphene tattoos. Yeah, it's like a sticker. They call it a tattoo, but you can remove it. The Amish make more and more sense to me every yeah every passing week you know they can build i used to think they were kind of weird now i'm like they said buttons were too far i'm like they're onto
Starting point is 01:56:33 something there yeah yeah here we go a graphing tattoo to continuously monitor your brainwaves it's but people people don't understand the amish don't really live completely just like without i know i know it's not – I know it's not literally nothing. There's like – if you go along the east coast, there's like a supermarket run by the Amish. And there's like ice cream machines and grills. But they're dressed like Amish people and they make food and you eat it. I assume there's varying degrees just like they're always – I think we just got to ask someone who's Amish to like hey explain that
Starting point is 01:57:05 because I remember in Chicago is a farmer's market and like a truck said like Amish farms pulls up and they're like Amish people driving in the car pulling up to sell
Starting point is 01:57:12 their food or whatever they'll do it if it involves making money yeah I think I think people completely exaggerate a lot of what Amish people do but I do think it's
Starting point is 01:57:22 for the most part probably true that they're chill and minding their own business yeah honey badger says had a debate with a friend about your civil war theory and he pointed out states suing another state idk the court working on state courts and my issue is what if the feds say we're not getting involved so the scenario presented is uh colorado has no restriction abortion texas bans abortion man and woman have kid or get pregnant.
Starting point is 01:57:46 At eight months, the woman says, you know what? I don't want the kid. I'm going to kill it. Flees to Colorado. The husband says, no, no. She's taken my son. He's viable. She's going to kill him.
Starting point is 01:57:54 Colorado has no limit. Federal government says, we got nothing to do with this. What happens? People need to stop being demons. Like, stop being demonic. Like, if you're eight months pregnant and you've got a man, like, what are you right but sure but like we shouldn't be having needing to have these conversations how's the scenario there is does the dad just say guess she'll kill my kid or does he go come on guys round up the gang and we're getting in the truck and going to save my kid um i think the latter is quite likely um or or what if the texas then says we no longer allow
Starting point is 01:58:23 interstate commerce with colorado because of the kidnapping of one of our residents for execution or something? I don't know, man. Yeah. When you, let's say, like stop being demons, I think of it as like it's impossible to go against the avalanche. I mean it's not impossible. It's very hard. So what do you propose to – I think there's too much black pilling going on, man.
Starting point is 01:58:43 Honestly. I don't think it's healthy. When you start working out when i was 15 yeah um no man i sorry i feel i feel like that there was some what was it you said just before that how to give people hope how to get them because tell them to stop being black that's different than giving them the white pill yeah of course man no i mean i all i push is optimism man why do you why do i do what i do online and uh you know, with my books and podcasts and everything? I mean, I think that we need to be careful when we're being, you know, realistic. I don't, I'm not saying stick your head in the sand and act like there's nothing wrong. I talk about plenty of
Starting point is 01:59:21 things that are wrong in the world and so on. But I think that these things can become self-fulfilling prophecies. I think if you think that, oh, my gosh, like whoever you think are the evil elites or globalists or, you know, people who want to just run things and enslave humanity. I think if the narrative is pushed that this is just inevitable and it's going to happen and it's hopeless and there's nothing you can do with it about it. I think it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy because demoralization is incredibly powerful i mean if you if you want to completely crush an enemy then you demoralize them to the point where they don't even fight because they don't think that they can or they join you or they join you exactly let's grab one
Starting point is 01:59:58 more super chat from tech rue he says come on man furry hate again libertarian and conservative furries think you're awesome we smash the like button and even subscribe with cash money. There are weirdos in every genre. I'll go on the show. I mean, no, I agree with that. I've been saying that because we've had a bunch of people who were like, dude, I literally don't care what people do when they're engaging in their own personal life choices or styles or whatever. I learned this as a lesson when I was a kid. And I told the story before that when we started skating, it was the cool thing was to wear skin tight jeans the older guys in their 20s wore
Starting point is 02:00:29 really big baggy jeans and they made fun of us and we laughed at them for being old and out of touch then when i got older the younger kids started wearing dickies that went down to their ankles like floods and then all the people that like were my age started making fun of them being like look at those idiots wearing flooded pants and i was like bro you're saying exactly what that dude said about you for wearing tight jeans yeah and he was like well yeah i know but tight jeans are cool and those are dumb and i'm like no dude you're dumb and then like i just started wearing regular jeans because i'm like everybody just do whatever you want man like just don't hit people you know yeah all right man if you haven't already would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel,
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