Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #580 - Trump Calls For DEATH PENALTY For Drug Dealers w/Matthew Whitaker

Episode Date: July 27, 2022

Tim, Ian, Mary of Pop Culture Crisis, and Lydia are joined by former Attorney General Matthew Whitaker to discuss Donald Trump's recent comments about drug dealers, DOJ investigating Trump's actions on January 6th, Matthew Whitaker's time as Attorney General, Matt's take on the recent assassination attempt on gubernatorial candidate Lee Zeldin, and the outrageous lies being spread by The View regarding TPUSA's convention and the suspicious group of supposed Nazis that gathered outside their building. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So Donald Trump just said that drug dealers should be put to death. And I guess the question is, what degree is he talking about? Because he mentions these other countries and he says China doesn't have a drug problem. And I'm like, is he talking about drug cartels that are murdering people and dealing in this really hard stuff? Or is he talking about Singapore level, if you're found like a poppy seed on you, they lock you up. Maybe not that extreme, obviously, but interesting nonetheless, because immediately everyone's kind of like, dude, a lot of Trump's supporters are fairly libertarian. So it's interesting to see. But I think what's more interesting about the conversation is what rhetoric Trump will embrace as we move into

the midterms and whether or not he'll announce before or after. So we got that story. Plus, the Washington Post says that Trump's actions are being investigated. And it's such a vague, weaselly headline. Are they investigating Trump or not? Come on, come out. Tell us if Trump is being investigated.

There is a criminal investigation and Trump's actions are involved, which sounds to me like they're saying, OK, it's not going to be Trump. And then we got another funny story. Democrats are boycotting Hulu because Hulu won't let them run the political ads they which sounds to me like they're saying, okay, it's not going to be Trump. And then we got another funny story. Democrats are boycotting Hulu because Hulu won't let them run the political ads they want to. Aw. Did you get what you wished for when you didn't want political ads on these platforms or when you wanted censorship because now you can't run your ads? Yeah, keep crying about it.

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And it's with your support we can keep doing that. We're going to have a members-only show coming up tonight, which should be particularly interesting, considering our guest is former AG Matt Whitaker. Hello. How are you? This is amazing. Thanks for coming, man.

You're welcome. Former Attorney General. I was looking for a way to tank my amazing. Thanks for coming, man. Yeah. Former Attorney General. I was looking for a way to tank my career. I think I found it. Thank you, Chris. We're here to help you. Your career's not taking off. Well, this is what happens when you lose a bet with Cash.

Is that what happened? Yeah. Cash and I are friends. We were playing some golf, and he said, whoever makes this putt, if you miss it, you've got to go on TimCast. So here I am. I'll take it. I'm glad to be here.

Thank you for having me. Do you want to give a brief introduction for yourself, your work? Hello, I'm Matt Whitaker, former acting attorney general of the United States. And as my friend Simon Conway on WHO in Des Moines, Iowa, which is the radio station that Ronald Reagan was on in Des Moines, always says, former Hawkeye legend because I played football at the University of Iowa. And all-around good guy. There you go. You played the guitar earlier, too.

You were jamming. Yeah, I'm not very good. I mean, I have a guitar. I have guitars. It's really kind of sad. And every probably six months, I determine, like, this is going to be the time when I pick it back up and get back into it. And then I realize, like, you know, it's hard work like anything else. I'm really interested to hear about the inner workings in your work as acting attorney general.

So thanks for coming, man. It's been a blast. We've also got Mary Morgan. Happy to be back. I know you're all happy to see me. Hello. It's me, Mary, from Pop Culture Crisis on YouTube. I urge you to go subscribe.

I'm here to dutifully shill for the show today. We talk about entertainment news, movies, celebrities. Go join us. Hi, everyone. Ian Crossland here as well. Good to see you from iancrossland.net. Good to meet you, Matt. Good to meet you.

Appreciate it. I'm tremendously envious of your hair. Oh, thanks, man. And I don't say that very often, but I mean, if I had had hair like that or did have hair like that, I would be more likely in a heavy metal band than a former acting attorney general. So life takes different turns based on the skills and abilities you're given. Speak the truth, brother. Let's get down to it.

That's right. I'm delighted to have matt this evening really excited to hear about what he went through in the white house and i can't wait to get into it let's go so here's the first story we got from newsweek trump urges death penalty for drug dealers quote china has no drug problem they said trump made the remarks in a speech he delivered in vegas las vegas nevada friday during a rally for his endorsed candidates in the state's gubernatorial and Senate races. The speech was marked by two recurring themes for Trump,

a demand for law and order, as well as an admiration for heavy-handed governance. He said, quote, if you look at countries all throughout the world, the only ones that don't have a drug problem are those that institute the death penalty for drug dealers. They're the only ones. You understand that?

China has no drug problem. During his speech, Trump recalled asking Chinese President You understand that? China has no drug problem. During a speech, Trump recalled asking Chinese President Xi Jinping if his country had a drug problem. Quote, I innocently and perhaps naively asked if there was much of a drug problem in China.

Why would you ask? He didn't say this, but I'm saying what he was thinking. Why would you have such a dumb question is that no, no, no, we don't have a drug problem. Why would we have a drug problem? There is no problem.

Drug dealers get the death penalty. The trial goes very quickly. So instead of coming into China, they go someplace else. We've had big drug problems over the centuries, but we don't have a drug problem at all. Now they don't deal in China, the former president said. So Matt, you were actually there. So he said he gave us similar remarks just today.

Oh, okay. I got the old version of the story. Yeah, at America First Agenda Conference put on by America First Policy Institute, which I run and co-chair of their Center for Law and Justice. And, yes, this is not – he said this actually while he was president as well. This is a theme that I've heard from Donald Trump many times. And, you know, I think his sentiment is spot on. If you look at the opioid, you know, fentanyl drug overdose crisis in our country, we're losing over 100,000 people a year now in our country to overdose. In fact, more people die of, it's the number one killer for 18 to 45. But these are prescribed, aren't they?

Not fentanyl. Not fentanyl? No, no. So the prescription opioids are a much smaller segment now. What's actually happening is people are, my understanding, and again, I'm not a drug user, not a drug dealer, have never used an illegal drug. And so my understanding in talking to the experts and talking to people is that you build up a tolerance to opioids and fentanyls and opioids, the synthetic opioids. And so if you either don't take it, it's laced in something else you take,

or if you, you know, take too much of it, that it can just, you know, pretty much wipe you out. Now, this is not, you know, we also thought about at the Department of Justice, you know, we reinstituted the death penalty because it had been a moratorium since the Bush administration on the death penalty. And one of the things we thought about was using fentanyl as the lethal agent in order to demonstrate kind of the lethality. Is that a word? Yes. I'm sure people watching are going to get in an inner comment to tell me if it is or isn't.

No, it is. Only you can see that. But to demonstrate just how potent fentanyl can be. So what does it do? When you overdose on fentanyl, does it kind of pass out? Is that what happens? Yeah. Essentially, my understanding is it takes your vitals down to zero. I mean, you just kind of like, it depresses your heart and your lungs and you stop

breathing and you essentially smoke. I mean, in terms of the death penalty, that sounds humane at the very least. Yeah. And it's pretty much what we're doing with another cocktail of drugs. And we, you know, we, I'll give you an example. I mean, I know you don't want to do a show about the death penalty. And so I want to keep this, it should be lighter because I'm usually a fun person. It's so dark. Yeah. It's really be lighter because I'm usually a fun person. It's just so dark. It's really dark. And I'm not a dark person.

I'm an optimist. But, you know, we, in the state of Iowa, my home state, I was the U.S. attorney in the Southern District of Iowa. There's a Northern District, which obviously if you have a Southern District, that implies a Northern District. But in the Northern District of Iowa, we had had a drug dealer who executed a family of five, including the mom, dad, and the kids. And so he was sentenced rightfully to the death penalty. And then had been sitting in prison for over 20 years because there was this de facto moratorium. Even though Congress had said and the president had signed a law saying there is a death penalty in the federal system for certain things, they weren't doing it. And the Biden administration is now not doing it either.

But this gentleman from Iowa was put to death under the federal system in the Trump administration. And I knew a prosecutor who had done that case and had been around for 20 years waiting to see that. And he actually called me that day and thanked me and thanked the administration for, you know, finally giving that family that was still alive, you know, justice. But so going to Trump's comments and just to clarify. Yeah, no problem. The article actually, the article that I had sourced, because we had a couple of them,

and I made this mistake, was that Trump said this more than once. He said it a couple weeks ago, and he said it again. We have this story here from three hours ago. Trump calls for a quick death penalty for drug dealers. This one is actually, the headline is more overt. And so in his first speech back in Washington since he left the presidency, he called for a quick death. I don't know. That feels a little heavy-handed, right?

A drug dealer? To what degree are we talking about? Well, I mean, I'm not going to try to morally justify certain levels of drug dealing and compare and contrast that to others. If you know anything about drug dealing, it's always a pyramid scheme, right? You have the street-level drug dealers that are usually the ones that are taken out, and then you have different levels. And oftentimes, in my experience, about two steps, two hops get you to a Mexican drug cartel.

And so if you're talking about kingpins, we already have kingpin statutes. They don't call for the death penalty. My understanding, and again, I'm not the Trump whisperer. I've spent a lot of time with him. I heard his remarks today. My belief is that he really wants to target the head of the snake, the kingpins, the ones that are getting rich and kind of the Pablo Escobar types, not the street-level hustler.

Not that they're not any less morally responsible for this scourge of illicit drugs in our system. We need to have a bigger conversation also. Congress has been completely unavailable and uninvolved in the regulation of drugs. The states have taken it on and mostly you know, mostly deregulated marijuana, for example. I don't, you know, this is, again, this isn't the topic that we're talking about, but I have a lot of strong feelings on this. And, you know, the federal government is, needs to do one of two things, either join the states or most of the states and have congress you know pass a law that that reclassifies marijuana or start enforcing the law what we can't have is these laws that aren't enforced that you know because it's because you know what we need in the rule of law for it to

work is certainty uh for citizens i think it should be i think pot should be legal but um i think you get bigger challenges when you get into harder stuff. Fentanyl especially is getting laced into all these drugs. And then, to be honest, I oppose a death penalty because the best example I can give to people is Kamala Harris deciding who gets to die doesn't sound good to me at all. I understand that there are really bad people like the guy you mentioned, right? So, Tim, let me just – the way the death penalty works is the jury, the peers, the 12 people that decide whether the person is guilty or not, decide the penalty phase and whether or not they have the death penalty. So to seek the death penalty, that's about the only thing that actually the Attorney General of the United States can do and only can do. Everything else has been – can or has been delegated in the Department of Justice, but the one thing that the Attorney General has to do

is determine whether or not to seek the death penalty in these cases. And we spent a lot of time. I mean, that is the most difficult decision that an Attorney General, I think, has to make is whether or not to seek the death penalty. And, you know, you get these recommendations from the U.S. Attorney's Office all over the country. Some are, you know, less likely to pursue the death penalty. Some are more likely to pursue the death penalty. But it's just the cases are just the worst of the worst.

I mean, you know, it's just like, oh, my God. I mean, this can't, you know, this fact pattern is the worst of the worst. I mean, you know, you're just like, oh, my God. I mean, this can't, you know, this fact pattern is the worst I've ever seen. Then you read the next one, it's like, oh, my goodness. And this is even more horrible. The challenge is, look, you know, you hear a story, you read the details about it, and you're like, this person, you know, can't be rehabilitated.

They're truly the worst. It's a violent sociopath. But proven beyond a reasonable doubt, I don't know if I trust the state to get it right. And then the issue is, to quote Benjamin Franklin, it's better than 100 guilty persons escape than one innocent person suffer. The idea to me that the state would say,

look, we believe these facts to be true to the best of our abilities. And you might have good people who are like, this guy did brutal things to a family and we can't have this remain. That I totally get. And saying, you know, so we're going to – this person has forfeited their life by taking the lives of others. The issue, I guess, is just that there's a percentage of people who are innocent who are going to be killed by the state.

And I don't know, man. I'm not going to pretend to have the answers, but I can just tell you I just don't like the idea. Yeah. I mean, obviously, the system has built in tremendous safeguards, uh, at least in the federal system. Like, you know, there's some States and throughout American history, I think, you know, that the safeguards weren't there, but as you know, and I'm talking about, you know, my experience is in federal court and in federal law and in the, you know, as it relates to the death penalty, the federal death penalty. And there are, um, there are a lot of safeguards built in.

But I do share that it would, obviously, we'd rather have 100 people have life in prison than have one person get the death penalty and be executed that was innocent. Yeah. It's a tough area, but I know this we're not. Yes, Mary. Is the purpose of the death penalty then to seek retribution for victims and enact justice? Or is it simply by necessity to remove this person from society and any chance that they could escape prison? Because at this point, we're releasing so many criminals. I'm not sure where I stand on it. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of reasons we have criminal prosecution and criminal punishment.

Retribution is one reason. Punishment is another reason. Excluding the death penalty, rehabilitation is another reason that we you know, we have criminal penalties. You know, so I've spent, I'm not in the legislature. I was never in the legislature. And so, you know, my kind of, I haven't done the balancing test on this as to, you know, sort of where, but Congress has passed a law that says there is a certain category of crimes that is eligible for the death penalty.

And here's the process. And so, you know, as a prosecutor and as the former, you know, acting attorney general, category of crimes that is eligible for the death penalty, and here's the process. And so, you know, as a prosecutor and as the former, you know, acting attorney general, we executed the laws. I didn't have to decide, and I don't think it's appropriate, actually. That's why these moratoriums, I think, take, you know, the people through their representatives have passed this law. You, your representatives, the people you voted for have passed this law or have not repealed it, more importantly.

And so, you know, let's put that on the ballot. Let's make that an issue. Let's let the, you know, if the people don't want the death penalty anymore, Tim, to your point is, you know, let's vote for it. That's what I never understand. And this is what the left loves to do, is they love to have the executive branch under their under their you know leaders like joe biden um you know decide that certain things aren't you know morally reprehensible but they'll never take the vote because you know that mostly the american people

are on it are in a different place on it republicans don't seem to do anything about it i mean yeah i mean it's 2016 through 18 and and they just let Russiagate happen. They did. I got there in October of 2017, and not a day went by that somehow the Russian collusion fable didn't affect the Department of Justice. Because if you remember, people, you want to forget because it was such a negative, just BS. I know I can't say what I want to forget because it was such a a negative uh you know just bs i know i can't say what i want to say but it was such because ultimately every night it was just some new revelation some leaker had said you know some fbi agent or sources or you know it's just it's just this constant drumbeat of stories that in retrospect were all fake news. And so you can totally, when Donald Trump says, and points to the back of the room and says,

you guys are fake news, I mean, they are. They are. Let me pull up this story we got from the Washington Post. This is relatively nebulous, I suppose. Justice Department investigating Trump's actions in January 6th criminal probe. People familiar with the probe said investigators are examining the former president's conversations and seized phone records of top aides.

What they don't say is, is Trump the target of this criminal probe? No, the Washington Post just says Trump's actions. It doesn't even say they're investigating Trump himself. They may be passively referring to, well, Trump said this one thing. What does that have to do with it? And I guarantee you right now there's a panel on MSNBC wringing their hands and John Dean's on there talking about sort of his experience with Nixon. I mean, it's a trail of morons, quite frankly, that then will jump on a story like that

and immediately wildly speculate not only as to that Trump is the target, they'll say, not knowing, and then they will usually immediately convict him and, you know, again, say the worst possible things about him. It's got to be infuriating. Well, so this is never-ending. I mean, Russiagate was a farce. It was a hoax. How come none of these people are being held to account?

I mean, high-ranking individuals signing off on this stuff, was a farce. It was a hoax. How come none of these people are being held to account? I mean, high-ranking individuals signing off on this stuff. Look, I think you were in for about, how long were you in for? About a year as acting AG? Four months. Four months. Much less. I spanned 2018 and 2019.

Oh, okay. Yeah, looks better on my resume. Right, that must be what I saw. Well, so I'm wondering, in your experience experience that I mean, you're you're there. It is a G. Why isn't why isn't why hasn't anyone done anything about this? I mean, do you think if if Trump wins in 2024, maybe there will be some accountability for for the lies? I mean, I hope when you had cash on here, he talked about his his Durham watch and, you know, sort of what John Durham is or isn't doing. You saw how difficult the Michael Sussman prosecution where, I mean, it was very clear that he had lied to the FBI.

And a jury in the District of Columbia is never going to convict somebody in that situation. Well, so, I mean, that goes back to my death penalty comments. Yeah. Right. You get someone who's a Trump supporter suspected of a very serious heinous crime. You put them in D.C., they're going to be like, kill them. Yeah. That's horrifying. And that two-tier system of justice is something that I'm talking about a lot right now.

We have – there's no doubt that the left gets away. You know, you think about the riots in 2020 and compare that to January 6th. You know, I'm sure that, you know, some smart lawyer could could parse the difference. But but it's really not. It's it's political violence. You know, if those people outside the White House that burn, you know, the church right across the street from the White House, if they had you know, they were trying to get into the White House. You know, they had to build dramatic, you know, sort of night after night, they kept trying to push the perimeter out, first of all, and build higher fences to keep those folks. I mean, there were police officers were assaulted.

You know, there was no doubt about that during those riots. And so, and I don't, I mean, again, I'm going to make a bold statement here, but certainly those folks that participated in that over the course of the summer in Washington, D.C., and looted Georgetown and and just, you know, you know, did all sorts of things. Nobody was prosecuted to the extent that the people that participate in January 6th. And I'm saying both those should be treated the same. Like political violence is never acceptable. But in this case, the American people see the different treatment of those folks. I've talked to people. They have no idea what 529 is.

I mean, I talk to people all the time and I say, you know, what are your thoughts on when the 529 riots, when they set fire to a guard post, when they torched the church and tore the barricades down, the president was forced in a bunker. They go, I didn't know that happened. Because the media, you know what happened? Well, there's the 529 commission, I mean, right? No. And that's my point. Before the show

you mentioned that at some point it's just not worth it to get paid $170,000 a year to have your life destroyed by the establishment, by the Uniparty, by the Democrats. And so I wonder if that's the reason why you don't get a 529 commission, why Republicans seem to do very little, if anything at all. Yeah. Well, I think, you know,

in the next year, I expect that there will be a lot more. I mean, I think the right is learning that we can't sit by and play, you know, patty cake while the left tries to destroy literally our entire society and people, you know, everybody's reputation. I mean, I think there is just a final realization that we can't not fight. You know, we prefer to actually, you know, have a civil dialogue and have a discussion and have the marketplace of ideas that's supposed to work and convince people to vote for us and vote against them. But I think there is a realization now that the left is just in it to win it. And not only to win it, but like destroy everything in their path for the sake of power.

But there's, see, you know, when you're acting AG, I mean, they came after you pretty hard, I'd imagine, right? Yeah, absolutely. Republicans don't do that to Democrats. Look at Brett Kavanaugh. I mean, the psychotic behavior. They accused the man of lining up at frat parties to gang assault women in these ridiculous stories that make no sense. Well, and wasn't he in some pirate ship going up and down the coast? Wasn't there some story about that?

I mean, it was just like nonsense. Someone literally fabricated a story about him on some boat doing something to a woman, and then they were like, yeah, we made the whole thing up. Where are the Republicans accusing Democrats of doing anything? They don't. And then when you get people like James Lindsay, for instance, and he starts referring to people targeting children as groomers, Twitter bans the word. And big tech comes in immediate defense of the left. So there's no collateral damage for the Democrats and the left to engage in this behavior.

The right does not do anything to combat it. And so you look at the Republican Party. I mean, half the time they're in agreements. Or look at the Republican Party, I mean, half the time they're in agreements. Or look at this. We just had how many Republicans come out supporting gun control, which is wildly unpopular among the Republican voter base. They don't care. You know, I look at people like Shelley Moore Capito in West Virginia. She's not up for re-election for another, like, five years. So what does she care?

She's probably laughing all the way to the bank as she torches her constituents. This is what we keep getting. So, I mean, man, is it brutal to watch. Now you have the January 6th committee. On TV they're calling it a TV show. The season finale. They're lying about basically everything. And people are wrapped up in this cult. They believe

this stuff. There's so much we can talk about on that committee or whatever you want to call it. I mean, it's a one-sided show trial like you would see in a dictatorship. Did we get outplayed in sort of the chess match of who should have been on the committee? And if they wouldn't put Jim Jordan, should we have at least had some non-anti-Trumpers on this to at least bring a different narrative or a different thrust of the questioning.

Right now, it's the only thing the left has. And that's what's just fascinating to me. I mean, if you look at what the two things that the left has is they have the Dobbs opinion and, you know, essentially claiming making falsehoods about what actually Dobbs is and stands for, which is the overturning of Roe v. Wade and returning the issue to the people and to the states. But then their other issue is January 6th and, you know, in some false narrative about this mass conspiracy. I don't know what they're trying. I mean, they're just trying to destroy people and leave just mass chaos in its wake. They use this manipulative technique where when something happens, we don't know at the time of a circumstance what is happening. So 9-11, for example.

There's a lot of people who like to look at footage from 9-11 and then claim it's proof of a conspiracy. And it's like, hold on. The reason you get conflicting reports in some of these circumstances is because at the time, everyone was confused as to what was really going on. A guy who was in the financial district didn't know exactly what was happening on the Upper West

Side. And so people were getting conflicting information across the board. And thus news reports come out and they conflict. Now, whatever you want to believe on that stuff i'm not getting into the nitty-gritty my point is on january 6th the people who were let into the building many of them had no idea i'd say most of them probably had no idea there was fighting happening on the other side cops opened up the barricades fanned them in doors were opened cops fanned them in one guy was acquitted of all charges because of that that guy did not know that on the other side of the building, couldn't see it, people were beating cops and fighting and throwing things. So what happens is hindsight.

The Democrats look at the most egregious moments, show everyone that footage, and then say, everybody in that building, that's them right there. And people go, wow. Well, and you know what they're also doing? In addition to those 800 and some people that have been charged with all sorts of various crimes, including illegal entering of a secure facility, they then say all 1.5 million people that were in Washington, D.C. that day are insurrectionists. I mean, people that weren't even close to the Capitol are suddenly swept in. And then they take the next logical step, which is all of you Trump supporters are the equivalent of the people that were assaulting police officers. And we know that's not true. But, again, there's nobody on this committee to give a counter-narrative or to explain exactly what you just said, which is it all depends on what part of the elephant you're examining. Yeah, I think the fair point is, to be a little bit optimistic, is that the only thing they

have is January 6th and Americans don't care about it at all. Yeah. I mean, you look at gas prices, inflation, people care much, much more about that. And the news coming out of there is Joe Biden's going to be selling off 20 million more barrels of our strategic petroleum reserve, gutting the system. I think he's doing it, to be honest, because he wants Europe to be able to buy oil from us because Russia's cutting them off. Or fuel, I should say. Russia's cutting off their gas. Yeah. But if the left was, you know, really believed that they needed to help Europe,

Joe Biden on day one would have said to Merkel, Angela Merkel at the time, you need to keep building those liquid natural gas terminals. Did they shut down their nuclear power? Yeah, they've done everything to increase their dependency on Russia. And the fact that they didn't see this coming, you know, is naive at the worst and intentional, you know, really as the truth. It sounds intentional. I think it sure looks like it.

I can't. This is one of those things that, you know, I, so my experience is being a federal prosecutor, you know, sort of being a, you know, someone that's run for public office twice in Iowa. And so, you know, my, you know, it's just in Israel, but, you know, sort of the geo, the real politic of some of these global issues, you know, I's just in Israel, but, you know, sort of the geo, the real politic of some of these global issues. You know, I apply reason and common sense, and it doesn't add up. You know, what Germany did over the last decade to end up in this situation with Russia, I don't understand. But maybe they just didn't believe that Russia and Putin was as evil as he is.

We had Zuby on the other day. He said he thinks it's a controlled demolition, that he sees what's happening. It's intentional. And I said, you know, I'll give you an example. They say there's going to be a food shortage because of the war with Russia. Ukraine and Russia aren't exporting wheat anymore. Russia is not exporting fertilizer. Then the government of the Netherlands tells their farmers to stop farming.

The U.K. and Ireland tell their farmers to stop farming. How does that make sense? It doesn't. Not at all. I wonder if the real reason they're telling their farmers not to farm is because they want to reserve fuel for the war effort or in preparation for something like that.

We got a lot of people. People eat a lot of food. We got a major abundance of food. So maybe the thinking is tell the farmers, oh, it's climate change. You got to stop. And then what that does is reduces the amount of consumption of fossil fuels of oil they use. We could divert that into other areas. Maybe.

I don't know. But I'll tell you this. It's all intentional. That, to me, is an objective fact. You can't tell people the food shortage is coming. We're all going to starve to death. Hey, stop farming. Yeah.

So you remember, oh, I don't know, 20 years ago when there was no iPhone, 20 years ago where you could. 2007, 15. Yeah. I mean, maybe 10 years ago. I don't know. 20 years ago when there was no iPhone. 20 years ago where you could. 2007, 15? Yeah. I mean, so maybe 10 years ago. I don't know. I'm not a technologist, but I have an iPhone. 2005, 6 is when there was not. Okay.

That's right when it was introduced. Okay, so less than 20 years ago. And this is what surprises me about human beings. We're so innovative. We're always trying to solve problems and to make life easier and to do all these things. And yet, in iPhone, less than 20 years ago, we didn't have iPhones. And think about what you can do with an iPhone. I mean, it's just extraordinary, even though it tracks you and does all these insidious things too.

But somehow energy is different than an iPhone, that we won't evolve, that we won't, you know, there won't be new technologies, there won't be better ways to, you know, sort of, you know, drive tractors and push cars around and all the things we use fossil fuels for. I just, I am, I believe in American innovation and especially Americans, but human innovation. And I think humans are not given enough credit to solve some of these problems. Whether you believe in climate change or not, you still should believe. Clean energy makes some sense just as if you want cleaner air and clean water. It's as clean as it's been in a long time. Ben Shapiro makes this point.

He says all of these charts talking about the future due to climate change don't take into account mitigation efforts. Yeah, or innovation. Or innovation. The changes that come, like the famous story of, they said at the turn of the century, 1900s, New York was going to be covered in mounds of horse crap. Because there's too many horses, too many people,

what are we going to do when the car gets invented and there's no horse crap? Yeah, I think if you're the guy that had the buggy whip factory, I mean, your life was good until all of a sudden it wasn't. And I look at some of these. That's why we need to make sure that we're not. I mean, we're always fighting the last war. We're always trying to win the last election. And I think on some of this,

we're not really believing in the ability of human beings to solve these problems. I mean, because if we figure out a way or if someone figures out a way to, for example, burn hydrogen, and all of a sudden the output of that is water, I mean, those technologies are coming along. Well, it is. I mean, cars already produce water. Yeah. They're exhaust. Right. And so I don't know.

I really think, you know, I look at the iPhone and the revolution of technology in my life. I mean, I'm sure I think nobody here except me probably had an answering machine. Oh, I have one. Oh, I had one. Okay. Yeah. All right. Good.

Yeah, yeah. We all had answering machines. Yeah, we're old enough. Mary, no. Mm-mm. But, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we're old enough. Mary, no. But yeah, so I mean, I remember in college, you know, you didn't like your home phone rang and you got home and you were excited because it said two or was blinking and you

pushed it and you listened to the calls that had came in since you had left. I mean, it was just it was just it's and now I mean, you can't like 24 sevens. Oh, nevermind. There's this incredible. I want-7 is being called in. Oh, it never ends. There's this incredible. I want to ask you about your time as AG, though. Yeah, sorry. I'm just wondering. No, no, it's fine.

I mean, when you were there, I mean, I know you weren't there for a long time. Did you see anything? I mean, obviously, Russiagate was bunk. Didn't you have the ability to look into it, to investigate, dig into who? Yeah, so I supervised the Mueller Mueller investigation and I'll never forget, and I've talked about this before. In fact, I wrote a book, Above the Law, if anybody wants to, it's available on Amazon.

And what I talk about, I don't think I mentioned a lot in this book, but I know I remember this like it was yesterday because it was so impactful, is there was a lot of controversy when I got appointed. I had been on CNN as a commentator before I came to the Department of Justice. And for like four months, they hired me to, you know, sort of be the conservative commentator. And, you know, one of the things I had said, which was very true, which is I could imagine that President Trump would appoint somebody new that would come in

and had control of the budget of Mueller and would reduce the budget, thereby limiting his ability and his scope and all that. And I said that just as a commentator. No plan to do it. But then sort of everybody lost their mind when I became the supervisor of the Mueller investigation. It was like I almost looked prophetic like I had planned this. I was just literally just, you know. But is that what you did?

You reduced the budget or what? No, I didn't do anything. But I had to go through an ethics review, you know, with the most senior career DOJ official who actually it was because of the way it's written it was my decision on whether I just consult him but it was my decision ultimately and I didn't ask him to write a recommendation of course he wrote a recommendation

which says I should have recused because of these things I said on CNN and I was just like this is nonsense I was a US attorney for five and a half years I know what it's like to be independent and look at facts and apply the law and make decisions. And, you know, kind of my commentary as a paid CNN analyst is not going to affect how I do this job. And, you know, it's just it wasn't even apples for apples.

But anyway, so, you know, fast forward. I clear that hurdle and I get read into the Mueller investigation. And, you know, the first thing they say is, you know what, Matt, we have, they have not found any evidence of any connection. There's no evidence of any connection between the Russian government and the Trump campaign. And I thought to myself, well, why do we have this investigation? And so then I, you know, there were several other pieces and parts. And, you know, one of the things I got read into, for example, was the Roger Stone investigation.

You know, there were several other components of this investigation that I was also read into and, you know, given a status update on. But, you know, at that point in time, you have a decision to make. And, you know, I mean, life is all about, you know, sort of replaying. Did you make the right decision? Did you make the right decision? But the decision ultimately, and if you think about how the regulations played out, if I wanted to fire Bob Mueller or end his investigation, they had to be for cause. And so that was a big hurdle.

And you also think about doing justice. Is it better for Donald Trump to have a full report from Mueller saying there was no connection or have Matt Whitaker, acting attorney general, shut it down because there's no connection? Pointed by Trump. Yeah. The two things that, in retrospect, I now believe is that the Mueller investigation was a total hit job by anti-Trumpers. I mean, it is literally the January 6th committee, but inside the Department of Justice. Well, what about Ukraine as well? Same thing?

Yeah. That was just the train got rolling before they realized what the evidence was and then they kind of were, you know, I mean, Nancy Pelosi hates Donald Trump

and she had the power to get enough votes to file articles of impeachment and prove them out of the House. Full stop. I mean, that's why it happened. And I'm sure

if Nancy was here and was honest and not dealing with her husband's, you know's legal issues, I think she would say, I cannot believe, you know, how tough Donald Trump is. How, you know, how hard, how hard he fought, how good his defense was and how, you know, he kept the Republican Party, you know, solid and, you know, supporting him through those, you know he kept the republican party you know solid and you know supporting him through those you know those impeachment trials the republican party maybe yeah i don't i mean you lost i think they feigned support i think a lot of these guys they feign support i mean all right name names of like who feigned support lindsey graham he comes out like he comes out on tv that's talking about how he's all in favor of trump but come on you see. You see him walking down on the floor and he gives Kamala Harris a fist bump.

He's not really behind the president. You look at – you have in 2016 and 2018, the Republican Party entertained and allowed the Russiagate nonsense to persist. I mean, you make a good point. Although, I mean, I think Cash and Devin, I think, were trying to get to the bottom of it. I completely agree. I think the thing that we all forget was just how much smoke created by the FBI and by sort of the left and the Clinton campaign. How much smoke there was. You couldn't see through it.

Because every time you'd run into something, you'd be like oh that's i mean maybe you know i thought this was you just it was it was a shiny object in smoke and you just it was very hard to get to the bottom and you know there were a lot of people that didn't want to get to the bottom of it because they wanted that smoke there they wanted to hamstring donald trump and the question you know that i come back to tim and i'm sorry i know is your show, so I don't want to dominate the time. But what is so dangerous about Donald Trump? Why do people want to take him down so enthusiastically? Well, I got some ideas.

It could be that back in 2009, or I should say in 2012, it was reported that in 2009, the CIA had reported they wanted to overthrow Bashar al-Assad, the Assad family in Syria, because we were trying to build an oil pipeline, the Qatar-Turkey pipeline, up into Europe to offset the Russian Gazprom monopoly. And Syria explicitly told the United States, we're going to support our ally Russia, not allow you to build this. In fact, we're going to get Iran to tap the same gas field, send it up through Iraq, so we could basically steal the oil, and then we could control oil prices into Europe, screwing with your allies. And so then, conveniently for the U.S., there was a civil war in Syria, the Arab Spring occurs. And we'll just throw it to, we'll fast forward a little bit to Ukraine, in which Gazprom controls a large portion, the largest, I believe, of natural gas flowing into Europe through there. Now they have the Nord Stream pipeline that's coming from Russia. And all of a sudden, you get this conflict

in the Euromaidan movement, where Ukraine wants to either join the EU, join NATO, join the West, or side with Russia and their trade federation. And that's all happening. Then Donald Trump comes in and he says, we're getting our troops out of the Middle East. Well, that's bad news if you dedicated 10, 15, 20 years to building this pipeline and getting oil to your allies in Europe. But what does Donald Trump, he gets elected. What does he do? He gets elected.

And sure enough, the conflict in Ukraine dies down, simmers down. ISIS is getting crushed. Abraham accords. Well, that's big bad news. If you need the conflict to justify destroying the country of Syria to build an oil pipeline, our gas pipeline, the Qatar-Turkey pipeline. And now Joe Biden gets elected and it's right back on track exactly where we thought we'd be.

Ukraine war lights back up. We got Gazprom back in the news, Germany feuding with Russia. And you have Donald Trump who was telling them the entire time to become independent, stop relying on Russia. Now, that's probably surface level scratching why they may be mad. It's very foreign policy heavy. You could also look at domestic policy, Donald Trump banning critical race theory contracting, companies that engage in critical race theory trainings couldn't contract with the United States.

All of these things just fly in the face of their agenda, and then you have the personal. Oh, boy, was Hillary Clinton mad. It was her turn. So a lot of reasons why they really, really hate Donald Trump. Yeah, but, boy, I mean, I've never seen, I mean, in our history, we've never seen a president this persecuted. Kennedy. Although he wasn't persecuted in public. Yeah.

They just decided behind the scenes, I believe, that it was time. I mean, I think that they whacked the guy. I don't know for sure, but I mean, there's just so much evidence that it was coordinated. By who? By whoever. Yeah. I don't know. I know that Pew Research showed that Trump's press coverage was 5% positive. Five.

Obama's was 42, I believe. So here's Obama. The first thing he does again in office is he orders a drone strike, blowing up a village of women and children. He commits extrajudicial assassinations on American citizens, but the media can't stop, let's's just say patting him on the back for a family friendly way to describe it plus we're in the age

Donald Trump comes in and the one thing the one thing they give him is when he fires missiles into Syria they're like this is it and I'm like there it is when he fires missiles on an airport in Syria all of a sudden the media is like Donald Trump's presidential moment oh yeah starting wars that's what they love about him but when the economy is booming what do they do they lie cheat and they The media is like Donald Trump's presidential moment. Oh, yeah, starting wars. That's what they love about him.

But when the economy is booming, what do they do? They lie, cheat, and they smear. Every single thing the guy does, it never ends. Yeah, we never were in the age of social media manipulation like we are now. So if Trump had been president 30 years ago or something like it, maybe there would have been newspaper articles. But it would have been a lot of it behind the scenes because that's all they had. Now it's social media. It's slander on the news and all that crap. So we're seeing it for the first time.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm just – the fact that he fights through it all and is, you know, not only as popular as he is. That's why. But just, like, he is never tired. I mean, it's like he eats it like a candy bar. It's really – it's like he eats it like a candy bar. It's really extraordinary. Just never seen a force like this in my life.

And, you know, I mean, I'm around him a lot and get to spend a lot of time with him. And I sometimes am surprised. And just that, you know, kid from Ankeny, Iowa, gets these opportunities. But I also know that he's just like, he's a no BS kind of guy. He doesn't worry, you know, doesn't worry that you didn't go to Yale or you didn't go to Harvard

or, you know, sort of doesn't. Another reason they don't like him. It's like, can you, are you effective? Can you get the job done? Do you speak clearly and, you know, make commitments and live up to those commitments? It's those, you know, it's just the basic, you know, kind of what you would expect out of a guy that's, you know, sort of built buildings. I look at everything that's happened over the past several years and what's happening

now with the January 6th committee, and there is a malignancy in this country that is gutting it from the inside. Donald Trump, what did he do? He brought auto industry back to Michigan, an investment of, I think, around $3 billion. He cuts out the TPP. He starts bringing manufacturing back to the United States. The best numbers of our lives, Jim Cramer says. Foreign policy, Abraham Accords, peace in the Middle East starting to take form.

He's meeting with North Korea, walking into the DMC with no security. You take a look at the stuff that Donald Trump did, and it's like, wow, one of the greatest presidents I've ever experienced. You know, I'm reluctant a little bit to say the greatest president, one of the greatest presidents. I've said that before. But I'm like, okay, I get it. I wasn't alive for a bunch of the greatest presidents. I've said that before. But I'm like, okay, I get it. I wasn't alive for a bunch of the other presidents. But in my lifetime, the foreign policy actions, not perfect, but really good. No new wars, getting our troops out of the Middle East, trying to make peace with North Korea, shoring up our borders, getting rid of the TPP,

bringing manufacturing back. I'm just like, wow, all that stuff was really good for us. And then you take a look at the Democrats and everything they're doing now, and it is gutting and ripping this country apart. And it's because of people like Nancy Pelosi. Nancy Pelosi, who we know, is enriching herself off of her position. That somehow she just makes these excellent stock decisions. She's a heck of a stock picker. Oh, yeah, yeah.

And then people make a social media account tracking her stock decisions. It gets banned. You look at the level of corruption, the lies, the cheating, the stealing, and it just makes me sick. And the worst thing about it is where is anyone to do anything about it? Yeah, and Tim, you might be on to something here because I was just, as you were talking about all that, it struck me recently that Donald Trump, like you said, had kind of brought peace to the Middle East and was disengaging the U.S. from the need for Middle Eastern energy.

And what is Joe Biden doing? He's going right back there. Exactly. And reengaging in the Middle East with the Saudis. And, you know, he obviously went to Israel. I mean, I don't know. When I was there last week, they were talking about how, I guess, he drove into the West Bank or Gaza.

He went into one of the occupied territories. I hate using their terminology. Oh, Biden did. Yeah, Biden did. And he took off the Israeli flag because he was flying an American flag and an Israeli flag. But they took off the Israeli flag before he entered the, what do you call that? The part of Israel that is Palestine. I don't know. It's not Palestineine who you ask yeah it really it's that area is so interesting to me and having been there now and

seen it with my own eyes that is a fascinating uh you know history and it's a current like real politic issue um it's just i think gaza you're talking about gaza the west yeah well so i guess we can call them gaza in the west bank I don't want to call them occupied territories because they're not occupied. They're part of Israel. But anyway, I digress. You take a look at what big tech is doing. You take a look at how Democrats actively support a lot of what they're doing. You take a look at the cult ideology, gender ideology, critical race theory, et cetera.

And these things just serve to erode and destroy the United States. You don't see these things in China. You don't see these things in India. You don't see them in, you see them somewhat in Europe, but in the United States, it is profound. Bill Maher brought it up. I mean, you look at the stuff with what that's happening with kids getting sex change operations. This is happening predominantly in hyper-liberal areas and not in conservative areas, but it's not happening in other countries. You take a look at TikTok, for instance. The things on TikTok, the overt wokeness allowed. We got banned from TikTok.

We really don't know why. It may have been because we had Alex Jones on the show. In China, they don't allow the woke stuff because they know it will erode the base of your country. But in the United States, that is the law. That is what you have to abide by in social media. It's almost the more destructive the technology is for society, the more it is encouraged to be used and prolific. It's really extraordinary.

Big tech is, I think, going to get its reckoning here in the next, you know, year to three. They've been given tremendous powers and they've abused those powers. We rag on Republicans quite a bit because they don't do a whole lot. But I will say from 2016 to 2018, you know, maybe they just didn't realize the extent to which things were occurring when they were occurring the way they were. Then they lost in 2018 to the Democrats and they gained back some seats in 2020, but not enough for the majority. Maybe come November, we're three, three and a half months away or about. Maybe then the Republicans will get the House and the Senate. Maybe we'll start to see some subpoenas. I want to see this. I want to see Joe Biden impeached for the Ukraine scandal. Joe Biden engaged in an overt quid pro quo.

It's remarkable, remarkable that Donald Trump could discover this, seemingly bumbling upon it. And when he asks the Ukrainian president, you look into what that was about. They impeach him for it because they knew Joe Biden was their guy. A made man would get away with the crimes he committed. Going to Ukraine and saying, I am going to deny a billion dollar loan guarantee illegally, even though Congress approved it, because I can do whatever I want unless you fire the prosecutor. By the way, the prosecutor happened to be investigating a company called Burisma where his son worked. But that's besides the point, according to the media. His son was on the board of Burisma. Yeah, $83,000 a month. And Victor Shokin was investigating that. And Joe Biden went to the president and said, fire him,

or you're not getting the billion dollars. And the president said, you can't do that. And Joe Biden said, call the president, see what he says. Well, SOB, guy gets fired. That guy needs to be impeached over that. We need a congressional investigation. We need a select committee. We need an investigation on the 529 insurrection when they threw a fight, when they set fire to St. John's Church and the guard post, forced the president into a bunker. I expect to see subpoenas of all of the Biden administration officials. I expect to see subpoenas, contempt of Congress,

everything they can do if they win. And you know what? That's what worries me. Because it sounds too good to be true. But do you think Merrick Garland in the Department of Justice is going to receive those

referrals? Of course not. As enthusiastically as he did the one for Bannon and Navarro and the embarrassment that they did to Peter Navarro. I still this, you know, I was, this swearing thing is really, I was upset.

I feel like I was very, very upset that the way that the, the way Roger Stone was taken down. I thought that was ridiculous. CNN getting tipped off. In fact, you know, I was the acting attorney general at the time, and I let Chris Wray know that it was not acceptable, that that was clearly intentional middle finger.

CNN was tipped off, but you don't need to go. I mean, I understand officer safety, but Roger Stone is not. But couldn't you have done anything about it? What? I mean, you can get the explanation. an officer's safety, but Roger Stone is not... What? You can get the explanation, but sort of operationally, I don't think we want

attorneys general involved in how to arrest someone they're going to arrest or how you're going to execute a search warrant. You leave that to the people that are doing the job. But this is the issue. The Democrats get in and think the exact opposite of the way you think.

They say, light them up, burn them down. Right. I know. And you see that example of Navarro being pulled off a plane. Shackled. If you believe Peter, yeah, his legs were shackled. I mean, this is absolute nonsense. I mean, he should have been given a notice to appear.

It's a misdemeanor, remember. Contempt of Congress is a misdemeanor. So Bannon was convicted of a misdemeanor. Navarro was charged with a misdemeanor. We've never, I mean, that's the same. And again, I'm just telling you, that's the same as like if you get a ticket in a national park. I mean, it's the same docket that you see in that case. What is it, two-month minimum in sentencing guidelines up to two years?

It's up to one year. Up to one year? Under a year. Oh, right, right, right. It's two years because he's charged with two counts, I believe. Yeah, so that is on par with driving on a suspended license? Yeah, I mean mean it's federal so it's a little different uh you can't really the the state you know state each state has a different

thing i mean i know you know my experience in iowa having you know defended i mean you would do you wouldn't you wouldn't go to court on a misdemeanor you wouldn't have a trial on a misdemeanor typically i mean that's that's why the case that's why the case was so fast right and banish i mean it's like you know it's just a were two witnesses, and it's just – He didn't call any. Yeah, I mean, he didn't call any, and the jury was out for three hours, but, of course, waited for their free lunch. How long do you think they're going to sentence him?

Did they sentence him yet? 30 days or less, I'm guessing. He might just get the, you know – I mean, he could get probation. It is – this is going to be, I hope this isn't controversial, but, you know, Congress has a jail in the Capitol. And if they really wanted to enforce their subpoenas, they would send their sergeant of arms to go get these people and put them in Congress jail. And actually, you know, exert some, like, you know, instead of offloading it to the Department of Justice and making it, again, making it appear to be something much larger than it actually is. I want to see Republicans win in November in the House and the Senate, but I don't want to see your typical Republicans win. I want to see people like Marjorie Taylor Greene win.

She's considered controversial. The media smears her left and right. She's got certainly views that I don't agree with I don't care she's fearless and she's she's fighting against this stuff she's going to congress and forcing these people to do their jobs much like Trump was that's why people like Trump that's why why people like Marjorie that's why people like Thomas Massey or Rand Paul but they also like people that fight and they they want people that stand up to the just BS of Washington, D.C. that don't want to get invited to the white wine cocktail parties

where everybody stands around with a drink and chortles about conservatives. They want people that sort of actually are unwilling to play the game, that are going to go to Washington, D.C., and they're going to fight for what they, you know, yeah, that they fight for what they got elected on. And, I mean, you see, you have to be in tremendous self-confidence to survive that. I'll tell you, I'll give you a good example of, I think, the issue of the left and the right. There was a guy who worked at Taco Bell, and he had a mask on that said Black Lives Matter. And his bosses went to him and said,

you can't wear that political stuff while you're working here. And he says, I'm going to take it off. And they said, if you don't take that mask off, we're going to tell you to leave. You can't work while you have it on. He says, fine. He goes outside, he films himself, and says they wouldn't let me wear this.

The activists attacked the Taco Bell until Taco Bell issued a statement saying you can wear Black Lives Matter stuff. Conservatives don't do anything like that. They say, well, but if I do that, I'll lose my job. It's like, you're right. The left doesn't care when they lose their job. And you can argue, well, it's because they don't have kids. It's a fair point. I'm just saying, when the left is willing to go to Roger Stone's house at five in the morning with CNN being tipped off and they bring him out this way and the right is unwilling to do anything about

it or push back in an equal or opposing way, then you will get this indefinitely. It's remarkable to me that what happened to Rod Stone happened while you were the acting AG. I mean, listen, I take responsibility for it. It was under my watch. I was in charge of the Department of Justice at the time. I mean, I raised holy hell as best I could. But, you know, I just don't, you know, this is philosophically, the best you can do is know that it shouldn't and won't happen the next time. Because. And it does. Well, I mean, you know, it does and it doesn't.

I mean, you know, at least while I was there, we didn't have anything like that go down. But this is where we have to have a higher standard for all. No matter what party you are, for all public servants, we have to have a higher standard. We can't just have our public servants be like everybody else and hold them to the same standard because it's going to end up, you know, it's going to be just a complete blank show. See, you guys are killing me with the cluster show. You're right, but here's the issue. Cluster show, thank you. Right now you have these young progressive personalities on YouTube or whatever claiming Republicans are steamrolling everything.

And why do they believe that? Because they think they should get universal health care, but those Republicans just won't let them. Meanwhile, Republicans are actually compromising on everything, on most things. Gun control being the perfect example. When the Democrats on the left argue that Republicans are the roadblock because they're only giving you a little bit. Meanwhile, the Democrats are arresting former administration officials, which is like the red flag of all red flags in terms of governmental collapse and crisis. The right being unwilling to do anything or saying, you know what, we're going to stand on decorum. It's like, congratulations.

Stand on your decorum. When they come and shackle your feet, let me know and I'll salute you as you go to the gulag. That's what's happening. No, and I'm not saying that the right should unilaterally disarm. In fact, it's quite the opposite. We've got to play the same game they're playing. We need to know the game we're playing and then play it well. But this does not end up well.

I don't – yeah. If we just keep smacking each other, that's not good for the American people. And that's why the voters ultimately, you know, need to get the right people. I mean, and throw the ones out that they don't, that aren't working. And we need to have more primaries. We need to have more, you know, contested elections. And it needs to be from the bottom to the top. For me, we all learn as we go, and we all adapt and adjust, and I just don't think Republicans are learning as well as Democrats right now.

Let me ask you about what happened with Lee Zeldin. You have this guy with cat ears. I wouldn't call it people are referring to it as a bladed weapon. Is that fair to say, do you think? It's a self-defense device but if he

had hit his neck or artery or something, he could have bled out. There's no doubt this is a very dangerous situation. You see this stuff, and it happened, what, a couple months ago? We just saw some guy try to assassinate Kavanaugh, or at least made great strides to get to that point? Yeah, no, I mean, I think this culture of violence that we have right now,

and it's very broad, but the political violence, I mean, it's just incredibly dangerous. And it's, you know, we talked about earlier, is it going to be worth doing these jobs? You know, even being a public figure. I mean, it's just, it's not.

It will be if you're a communist, if you're in a cult or you're ideologically driven. Like I just mentioned this guy. He's wearing the Black Lives Matter mask at Taco Bell, and he says, fire me. I'm not taking it off. He's willing to throw himself on top of the issue because he'll sacrifice his position to wear that mask, and they give it to him because of it. And so you look at now what's going on with uh the violence you've got people on the left who are willing to destroy their careers or get paid almost nothing to be in that position and the

right's unwilling to do it they're saying things like you know what it's easier and more comfortable just to get out of here and do something else and that's why they lose so now you see this guy who attacked zeldin and he says he i guess the latest report is that he didn't know who zeldin was or whatever okay yeah i don't think you go to a political rally the day at the day uh the governor puts out a statement about the guy getting up on stage holding a weapon and then trying to and the time he's done and then moving gesturing i'm being very careful here towards his neck with it whether it was for the mic or for his neck whatever i don't i don't think you just do that randomly but these are people who, when you get someone who's willing to sacrifice

their livelihood and their job or their own safety, these are people who are willing to wear all black and firebomb federal buildings. I gotta tell you, man, this is asymmetrical culture war where the right is like, we're gonna win when regular people

wake up to the gas prices. And it's like, yeah, I think that's potentially true. A lot of people, working class families, are going to be looking at the $5 a gallon gas, and it's $4.30 average right now, and they're going to be very angry about it. But how many people are indoctrinated and don't care about gas at all? How many posts have you seen on Facebook where people say, I don't care about high gas prices. January 6th is more important, because I see those all the time. I see people who care more. Who are your Facebook friends?

Well, I've got thousands of people on Facebook posting. Cleanse that. Cleanse that list of crazy people. Even Biden said, it's worth it so we could take a stand for Ukraine. We did the right thing. Republicans and people in the right before that even happened. Don't want to

sacrifice anything. And the left will sacrifice themselves. Well even happened don't want to sacrifice anything. And the left will sacrifice themselves. Well, they don't want to sacrifice. They have a lot to say. I mean, you know, a lot of Republicans are very successful and have ambition and have goals and desires and want to accomplish things not only for themselves but for their family, and they want their family to be successful. So, I mean, I hear what you're saying.

You know, there's so many of these people, especially people, many Republicans retiring. They don't want to be involved in it at all. So they're like, I'm just going to retire. Yeah, because it's not worth the money. Maybe you made enough money. It would be so easy for so many of these people. You don't need that much money to retire forever. And so what I see is… What is the number?

To retire forever? Yeah. I mean, let's just look at the average retirement. If you wanted to be a regular person and you retire on half a million to a million. Now, most of these people in Congress, I think what is like half of them are millionaires or some ridiculous number. Wouldn't surprise me. I mean, their retirement benefits are also very good. Right. Nancy Pelosi's net worth is 135 million. She could leave at any moment. She never has to work a day in her life.

You've just got two fridges full of ice cream, by the way. Really expensive ice cream, too. Yeah. These are people who just want power. Yeah, she made a video during the pandemic where people were hurting and broke. And she's like, look at my $50. I tried. It's very good.

And everybody was like, thanks. This is so disgusting. Oh, yeah. That's Nancy Pelosi for you. She should retire. Well, what's even more disgusting is Tim doing Nancy Pelosi. Yeah, I think She's so disgusting. Oh, yeah. That's Nancy Pelosi for you. She should retire. Well, what's even more disgusting is Tim doing Nancy Pelosi. Yeah, I think that's even worse. I try to make it even more disgusting.

That's how she talks. Yeah, but... The sides of the back of your tongue smacking on your inner cheek. The way I see it, man, is I get it. I get it. Yeah. You know, look, we here at TimCast,

we're successful. You know? So I hear here at TimCast, we're successful. So I hear. It would be so easy for me to just... I wish my podcast was as successful. We've got a bunch of new shows

we're launching and I'm going to break down for everybody why we do what we do. I think I mentioned this last week. TimCast.com, what was the first show

that we launched? It was Tales from the Inverted World. True crime, mystery, history podcast. Why? They're very popular, Inverted World. True crime, mystery, history podcast. Why? They're very popular, particularly among women.

We already have a political podcast where we talk ad nauseum about all of these issues. Then we launched Pop Culture Crisis with Brett Dasovec. We brought on Mary Morgan to co-host it because that's not political. Because the goal for the website isn't just to argue with people and say, hey, that thing they're doing on TV is dumb. And that thing that they said in Congress was stupid. It's like, we got to change culture. We got to change it all. But here's the crazy thing. It is people don't, I don't think people understand how difficult it is to do all of this, how much time it takes 16 hours a day, plus, you know, several

hours on the weekends, every waking moment of my life on the phone, answering emails. And I got to figure out which emails to answer to make all of this work. And it would be so incredibly easy to cut everything down, do a single show and just be well off and say, why am I risking my neck and stressing myself out for people who won't do the same? Because I genuinely believe that there are a lot of people who listen, who do want to do that. And so maybe there are a lot of people who are like, you know, those, all that woke cult stuff is really bad, but I'm not going to, I'm not going to get involved. Great. Well, I'm not talking to them, I guess. Maybe I'm trying to encourage them to stand up and change the world. But I think there are a lot of people who are like, I'm ready,

I'm willing, and I'm going to speak up and I'm going to make a difference. And I'm like, well, then we got to have a space that allows for that to happen. And we got to encourage more and more people to get involved. So I'm, I'm more content doing that as opposed to so many other people who you know they're well i don't want to be in government because it's not worth the pay and then the democrats try to destroy you and then you look at what they put brett kavanaugh through so there's certainly a lot of people who are standing up who are pushing back and doing the right thing and i can respect them and i think we got to get more people to do it But the way I see it with what we're doing at TimCast is, at the very least, we're just going to create a cultural space to the best of our abilities.

We're going to fight for it every day to not just be overtly political. Because one thing the right does, and they do terribly, is they argue about what the left does instead of doing things. They say, Hollywood made a movie. The movie sucks. Okay, well, now you've got the Daily Wire making their own movies. Timcast.com, we're starting to launch our own shows.

That's the path. We create shows, we create culture, and we create a new place for people to go to get away from the influence of the Democrats and their psychotic cult.

That, I think, is the path towards changing things. It is the hardest path possibly to take. So I totally get it why there are so many people who are like,

I make good money. Why speak up? Yeah, and the frightening thing, I'm sure for you all, and I'm sure the reason you're trying to get more on your website is because of how easy it is for big tech to de-platform you. Oh, hands down. I mean, it's just because there are ways to monetize these types of things that are pretty good when you're on these platforms, but they can take it away tomorrow. And that's what anybody that wants to create a show or content or do anything, I mean, obviously you don't do it for the money, but I think that's a reward for being good.

And it's not just about getting banned. It's about the manipulation, the shadow banning. Yeah. So we had a show called Cast Castle, which was like a vlog, and we did bits, and then we ramped up the joke because, honestly, it's fun to write jokes and act. And then the issue is we can't do a lot of jokes. You get banned for it. Or you could build your business up on their platform. They don't ban you.

They just cut your money off after a decade of investment. And then your show's gone. And it's like, okay, why build up their platform? We'll build up ours. And so now, you know, this show is live on the front page of TimCast.com. We're doing a lot. We've done infrastructure. We've kicked PayPal off the website.

PayPal and their censorious attitudes and Silicon Valley cultism. We now use Parallel Economy, which is co-founded by Dan Bongino and is censorship resistant. So my view is hopefully in five years, the big pop culture conversation is, oh, yeah, that new movie that just came out on TimCast.com. And we're not going to be overtly political. We don't make conservative content. We're not conservatives. We just make content that is not woke.

And we'll create a space to call out the lies the Democrats have been pushing. And look, I don't like the uniparty Republicans either, but the Democrats are the ones who control the cultural institutions that are burning everything down. You're right. You're right. That's what we do, I guess. Good. I love it. That's why I'm here. I heard good things. Well, I'm optimistic in that regard, but I also kind of feel like we're building an arc in a sense.

Like it's going to get way worse than it is now. A lot of people think that's pessimistic. I'm like, I don't look at it negatively. I just look at it mathematically. What's happening now culturally and politically is negative points towards the United States. It's getting worse. It's getting worse. It doesn't mean everyone's going to die and the sun's going to burn out and the planets are going to explode. No, there's still a Rome.

There's still a Rome. There's no Roman Empire. Well, exactly. Just like that. It turned into a church, the Roman Catholic Church now. It's another kind of mental control. They couldn't do it militarily. It was too big.

It splintered, so they just want to keep that influence. Yeah. And I think, you know, my friend Rick Grinnell says often, you know, most great civilizations have lasted about 250 years. We're, what, 246 right now? We're there. Yeah. And so we have the people of the United States are going to have to decide. And I think there are a lot of headwinds in that regard. I also think we're the greatest idea ever conceived in human history. And so we'll see if we can, as a people, figure it out. Yeah, I don't think it's going to be through legislation. I don't think we can legislate solution or print solutions with the Federal Reserve.

It's industry actually making things, like graphene. It's obsessively been talking about it the last two years to bring awareness to it. We have been obsessively talking about it. Oh, I thought I have. I have been. But I don't even – are you familiar with the material? It's now graphene time. Oh, oh, oh.

Check this out. Check this out. You know, to Ian's credit, I got an ad for an electric bike. Its range was 150 miles. That blew my mind. Yeah. Because we've got some electric bikes. The range was 150 miles. That blew my mind. Because we've got some electric bikes, the range is like 40 or 50 miles. And it charges in 15 minutes.

It's incredible. 15 minutes. So this is a battery compound? It's pure carbon. It's just carbon. And it's hexagonally lattice like a honeycomb. Flat, one layer, atomic thick. It's electrically conductive capacitative like a battery. You can super conduct with this stuff. My point, the bike uses a graphene battery.

Dude, and you can pull carbon dioxide out of the air, condense it onto palladium, and then turn it into graphene. So we can basically mine the air, mine the carbon out of the air. We can mine the methane out of the air, and we're going to end up competing with trees. So if we just need to renegotiate

and bring awareness to the government, I think, to teach them about the 21st century industry. Well, isn't this the point I was trying to make earlier? And obviously, you do it better with a real technology, but human innovation is going to... Because doesn't that solve the excess carbon in the

environment? If we're competing with trees, trees are the ones that are pulling out carbon dioxide. But this is what we're running into. Because yes, right? We get carbon in the air, and we're competing with trees, trees are the ones that are pulling out carbon dioxide. But this is what we're running into. Because yes, we get carbon in the air and then like Ian says, we mine the air for carbon and we need more of it. We can't take too much. You run into people who post things and memes like Elon Musk is wasting money going to outer

space. That money should be spent here in the United States. And it's like, where do you think they spent the money? Do you think that Elon went to the moon and gave moon people our money? No. think that Elon went to the moon and gave moon people our money? No, he hired American workers to work on American products, to machine American parts, to make an American spaceship. It goes up into space and then it comes back. These people don't understand.

When we talk about new technologies, you are up against ideology versus innovation. And the ideologues are saying there's too much carbon. Therefore, shut everything down. Take away people's fuel. versus innovation. And the ideologues are saying there's too much carbon, therefore, shut everything down, take away people's fuel, let the diabetics die when their refrigerators stop working, they don't have insulin anymore, and that will solve the problem. And then you have the innovators saying, can we, I don't know, mine carbon from the air to reduce the parts per million so that we can offset global warming, but then also use it for something innovative? No, they don't want to give you the chance. There are people who oppose human ingenuity and people who support it. And right now, the Democratic Party, what are we watching right now? Joe Biden's selling off 20 million barrels of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

A decent amount goes to China. They say the reason is because China, it legally has to go to the highest bidder. So Europe and then China, they get it. And my question is, Joe Biden, if he comes out... Which makes no sense. I want to just hang a lantern on what you just said, which is true, but it makes no sense. It's the United States Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

It's not supposed to be sold off. It's supposed to be used. It's not to be auctioned. But they're trying to lower the prices. So the question is, if Joe Biden comes out and says he's going to be auctioned. They're trying to lower the prices. So the question is, you know, if Joe Biden comes out and says he's going to get us off fossil fuels, and then you see, I think, Jeremy,

they shut down their nuclear plants, right? Is that what happened? I believe so, yes. I think so. I don't know. You want to fact check that? I haven't heard that. They did? I'm wondering, then, you know, they're not, Greta Thunberg says, we don't want to wait until 2030. We want to stop fossil thrust now. And it's like, it just sounds like they want to kill people.

That's all it sounds like. That we've got a food shortage coming in to say stop farming. We've got a fuel crisis. And they're saying, sell it off and shut down our power plants. And I'm like, you're just trying to get rid of humans. Bill Gates wrote four years ago, we have to stop poverty in Africa because they're having too many kids. So there'll be more poor people. And I'm like, so you're not saying kill them.

You're saying don't let them exist in the first place. It sounds an awful lot like they're just nuking the system on purpose. I think a lot of it is ignorance. Like maybe there are some destructive people that want to wipe out a segment of the population just for whatever short-sighted desire. But the people that want to create less carbon don't seem to understand that we can pull it out of the atmosphere pretty readily. Well, that's the point. Ideology versus innovation. How do you convince a zombie horde screaming the end is nigh that there are ways to solve

these problems through technology? You can't. I saw a video, Turning Point USA. Actually, let me just see if I can pull this up and we'll talk about it. We got this tweet from Turning Point USA. They say, yesterday, The View and Whoopi Goldberg smeared and lied about TPUSA regarding an incident where supposed Nazis showed up outside the Student Action Summit. Basically, they say, oh, there were Nazis there. Yeah, there were weirdos waving a flag outside the event on the public sidewalk folded flags freshly unfolded yeah yeah well they were probably

probably the left it was yeah the left created this story i mean then whoopi goldberg says they were pseudo there they were in there she's forced to come back out and say they weren't in there but they were uh they weren't inside the building, but they were mixed in with the people. It's all just outright lies about everything. Oh, so instead of saying— This is the same person who got in trouble for what she said, the Holocaust wasn't racially motivated. Now let me play this clip for you. Bad takes.

Let me play this clip for you real quick. And avert your ears, children. This may be rather shrill and annoying. You've been warned. This young woman screaming for literally no reason, nothing she understands. How do you say to her, ma'am, did you know that we can solve the problem of climate change by mining carbon from the atmosphere? Put it in a song, a hit song, because that gets the mindless zombies to dance along. Perhaps. Ian, write a hit song called, we can mine graphene from the air.

That'll be good. And then these people will start screaming, and then you play the song. No, the problem is, you know what I think? The zombie hordes hate. They want to hate. They hate. And it's like that, you know that meme where the guy says, I'm angry. And the guy says, here's a solution. And then he burns

and says, I don't want a solution. I want to be mad. He's like, I'm mad. I want to be mad. This woman's screaming. And I gotta tell you, I don't know her personally, but I will tell you my experience having been at these protests, there's no reasoning with these people. None. Not in the moment. Not in the moment, for sure. No, just not at all.

Not ever? I've been to their meetings. Even those are impossible in a room with a bunch of people like, good luck. No, no, no. I'm talking about the private rooms at Occupy Wall Street where they were squatting inside one of the buildings. Yeah, yeah. I wonder if we were at the same meeting. Maybe.

It would have been awesome. And everyone's sitting down in small groups having conversations. And these people are zealots. They don't care. You are dealing with ideology versus logic. And they don't care. Yeah, you can't head on it. You got to subvert it

and kind of make them believe it without them realizing they're believing it, which is why I put it in music and things like that. You misunderstand. I agree with you on that point. What I'm saying is

they want hatred. Yeah, it's addictive. And so if you tell someone, I got this really good idea that we could mine carbon out of the atmosphere to stop climate change, they would say,

I don't care. I hate these people. I hate these people. I think because hate is like real. It's something that they can like at least they know they have control of something as long as they can continue to feel. And when it goes away, then it's this uncertainty that can lead to like terror. And so they snap back to what they know.

That's kind of a natural phenomenon. I was in San Bernardino. There was a group of people protesting, holding up signs. And they had all stopped and they were talking to each other and I walked up

and I was like, hey, how's it going guys? And they just looked at me like, some of them like, oh hey, what's up? And I was like, I just wanted to ask you guys like what's going on?

Like what are you doing? And then someone walks up and starts screaming, Mike, check, Mike, check, Mike, check. Instantly, all of the activists start repeating in unison, Mike, check. That's what you're supposed to do. What does that even mean?

I don't know what Mike, like this Mike? Mike, check is a technique that the activists, the cults use to, they claim. Bring them back to the trance. Amplify voices when you can't hear things. It's freaky, weird. Oh, is that where they repeat? Oh, my goodness. I went to Occupy. I wouldn't hear things. It's freaky weird, dude. Oh, is that where they repeat? Oh my goodness. I went to Occupy. I wouldn't do it. I refused.

I just screamed as loud as I could so they didn't have to repeat me because it was so cult. It was culty. It's a cult technique. They get you to repeat the thing. They make you repeat it several times. And so when I tried talking to people, they immediately start yelling, mic check, stopping the conversation.

And the woman said, she goes, do not, and they all yelling, mic check, stopping the conversation. And the woman said, she goes, do not. And they all go, do not. And she goes, talk to anyone. And they all repeat, talk to anyone. They are trying, they are trying to trick you, to trick you. And then she says it again. And they all just mindlessly chance. You don't get it, man. Like I hear what you're saying about subverting and like trying to convince them. But when people are in a zombie horde controlled by a zombie Lord, I don't know what to tell you because I've been in private with them and they have cognitive dissonance and they experience physical pain when you provide information that could shatter that. And when they're in public, they're unwilling or just so angry. Look at this woman. She's

screaming at Drew Hernandez's face for no reason. She doesn't know him, know anything about him. And she's saying, stand up, fight back. What does that mean? I want the context. What did Drew say? Is there more of the video? Oh, I don't have it.

But come on. No, we don't need context. I must know. I see the humanity in the woman. You will. You will. What does stand up, fight back mean? It's rhetoric. I don't You will. What does stand up fight back mean? It's rhetoric.

I don't even know. What are they protesting? I don't know. What is it? Twitter free Isabel? They're amoral and they want to cling to something that feels like a moral system. Zombies. What makes someone susceptible to that?

You know, I... Why is it not you? Why is it not me? I don't know. Like, why isn't it any of us? Like, not in these crowds? Yeah. Strong mental fortitude and independent...

Having a job. I don't know about that. Probably helps. I think it's... I don't know if it's nature or nurture because I wonder how is it that throughout my life I have been fiercely independent. Maybe it's nurture, the way I was raised. Are you Scottish by chance? No, part Irish.

Okay. That might explain it. But I'm a bunch of different things. Growing up on the south side, it was like figure it out. It's all – maybe that explain it. But I'm a bunch of different things. Growing up on the south side, it was like figure it out. Maybe that's it. Maybe these are kids who had everything handed to them and they have no idea to solve their problems. I think that could be a big part of it because there are so many people who say, I don't know what to do. And I'm like, I got to be honest.

If you are an adult and you don't know what to do to be successful then you probably you did not have parents who taught you the things you needed to do to survive or circumstances that did because i was lucky enough to have a bit of both i had uh parents who basically hey get out of the house and go do stuff and so forcing me to be more independent that was what we did back then when i was a kid we'd be we'd be anti-. My parents would be like, get out of the house. You're sitting inside too much. Go do something. Come back when the street lights turn on. That was me growing up.

Solve your problems. You're on your own. We had a house that didn't have a deck off the sliding glass door. My parents just never put one on. There's one now there. They're still in the same house. My mom would just

open up that sliding glass window and yell and whistle. The same way she would call the dog. That was when it was time to come in for dinner. I remember. Like most of our childhoods, that was just normal. I remember I was like 14 and my friends were all jumping on the freight trains

and riding them because our area was, from where we lived to where the park was was like I'm like 14 and my friends were all jumping on the freight trains And riding them Because our area was From where we lived to where the park was was like 3 miles So you'd be walking down the tracks You'd hear the thing The train's going like 15 or 20 miles an hour You run and then just grab and hang on And it brings you all the way there These are where little kids are doing this stuff

Just figure it out on your own I wonder if these kids don't have that I watched her eyes when she was screaming. It looks like some sort of amphetamine. It looks like a kid. Adderall. Yeah, Adderall maybe. Because the eyes are so round and pupilled, and they're not matching with the mouth.

I think kids that are on drugs at age 12, 13, 14, even younger, don't know how to be happy, really. They don't know what they're protesting. Yeah, they don't have a solid formation of what they think reality is without the drug. Right. So there were protesters today outside the Marriott Marquis. Oh, yeah? How was that? I'm used to it, and I hate to say, I have one rule of protesters. Please write your signs so they can be read at about 35 miles an hour.

Because for some reason, Jeff Sessions, when I worked with him, had a lot of people that didn't like him and had a lot of protesters that would show up everywhere we went around the country. And these people would write these very convoluted signs that didn't make any sense. I mean, there were a couple, like, two-word ones, like F-U. Like, that made sense. I get your perspective. Remember when someone made a sign that said Rahm Emanuel likes Nickelback? How dare they?

And then all of a sudden everyone started writing similar signs. Yeah. It became a meme because these people aren't protesting anything. day's the best for that they're not protesting anything they're showing up and trying to just be part of a crowd to feel included or something because they need to go to church right well they don't have this is their church right yeah that's it which is so trite to say but it's true it is and so the funny thing is how I take a look at this, right? I'm certainly not Christian by any standard. I take a look at this, and I take a look

at churches. There's always time. When I was younger, I went to Catholic school, and I was raised Catholic, and then I believe in God, but I don't believe in any of the organized religions for the most part. So you're spiritual? No you're spiritual? No.

Not spiritual? Not spiritual. Yeah, he is. Do you believe in a power greater than yourself? Yes. Okay. I think logically. Do you pray? I think maybe Christians would.

I don't consider it praying in the same way that a Christian would or someone else. So maybe not. I wouldn't consider it praying in the same way that a Christian would or someone else. So maybe not. I wouldn't say so. But when I stand back and I see modern Christianity, I see some people who believe stupid things. I see some people who think there's a giant man in a robe, bald in the clouds, who's watching over us, which is silly. But then I see people who are more learned when it comes to philosophy and theology. And they actually question and they have legitimate reasons for believing the things they do. But more importantly, I say, okay, let's talk about the general outcome of what we have.

Were there bad things before modernization and reformation? Oh, you betcha. And there still are in a lot of religions. But I tell you this, when I go down, I was hanging out with Seamus, who's a Catholic, and we went down to Charlestown after we met up with him after Mass got out. I see a bunch of little kids playing, wearing nice clothes with their parents, and their parents are keeping their kids safe, and they're sharing food with the needy and things like that. I'm like, all those things are really good.

You want to have a gathering, and your idea of doing right by your community is teaching your kids to be good people and providing food to the needy. I'm like, dig it. Really great. If your idea of a gathering and community building is screaming at the top of your lungs and throwing bricks and harassing people, we got a very serious problem with your moral framework. So what do we see right now? Perhaps there will be a reformation of leftist ideology in 2000 years and they'll realize that maybe they should actually practice what they preach. And instead of screaming in people's faces and throwing bricks at them, they give them bread. A lot of these people do that. When I see people doing

like foods, not bombs, giving out food, I've seen this my entire life. That's fantastic. If that's your idea of organizing, that's great. And then of course, they're, you know, historically there have been, you know, historically there have been, you know, bad Christians as well. Modern times right now, I'm not going to sit here and complain about the fifties. You know, those times have passed. Civil rights won. Congratulations. My family is certainly happy that it happened. Now I'm looking at your average Christian and maybe not doing enough to raise their kids properly. And so this is why you're seeing a wave of young people becoming dejected and lost. But I see at these universities

some new kind of pseudo non-theistic religion in critical theory, wokeness. I don't think any of these one terms defines what's happening. They say intersectional feminism, they say wokeness, they say critical race theory, critical gender theory, critical theory. None of those things actually explain what we're seeing. The emergence of a non-theistic religion, perhaps wokeism is the best all-encompassing term. These are people who have all of the similar traits of a newly formed religion or dogma. They are violent. They are angry. They have no rhyme or reason or logic behind what they do. Is this transhumanism? You think this is transhumanistic religion? No, it's almost like, the way I explained it before is I read a physics book about

when they captured electrons in a two-dimensional plane and simulated an element. So an element, for instance, has got like a hydrogen, has an atomic weight of one, I believe. Yeah, one proton. One proton with an electron orbiting it. So what I read was that in a two-dimensional plane, they captured an electron and simulated orbit. There was no proton nucleus, but it adopted the properties of hydrogen because of the confined space and the forced movement of the electron or whatever. And so they injected an electron, another one into it, and it simulated helium effectively. But there was no core.

There was no nucleus. And that's what I see here. I see all of the bad of religion amassed into one group with no rhyme or reason or dictating principles, just chaos. It is like a fire, consuming, burning, full of rage. And there's no reasoning with it. Yeah. What do you do? It's like, so they're forcing, it's not happening naturally.

It's like a forced creation as opposed to happening naturally. It's like take a bunch of people, it's, you know what it is? It's really simple. It's take a Christian society, which the United States absolutely is. And the left might be like, no, we're not. I'm not saying it should be. I'm saying that the overwhelming majority of people in this country identify as Christians and historically have done so. And then what you do is over time, those kids, the next generations, next generations slowly cease to hold the values.

And what you end up with is all the all of the elements of dogma without any of the moral framework. Yeah. When you tell yourself, I have to go do this thing because that's what a Christian would do, or I have to go yell at a crowd because that's what a true believer would do. You're the electron without the core. You don't need to be told what to do to get it done. You know. It's inherent in the system if you look around and you're open to it. But that requires some sort of, I don't know, it's inherent in the system if you look around and you're open to it. But that requires some sort of, I don't know, stability or something. You know what's crazy? The lady from the Westboro Baptist Church who got de-radicalized on Twitter.

You know the story? Oh, yeah. I can't remember her name, but she was on Twitter. And then people started having conversations with her. And then she was like, wow, okay, maybe I'm wrong about this. Daryl Davis talking about how he met with Klansmen. And then he's a black man. And he talks to them.

And then they turn in their robes and say, I don't want to do this anymore. And then you take a look at these people and they're the complete opposite. There's no reasoning. They're just screaming and dogmatic. I think it was Megan Phelps Roper is the woman that left the Westboro Baptist Church. Yep. She has a Rogan interview that was pretty cool, I believe. Yeah, it was very cool.

Yeah. I wonder what this, you know, watching this video from its front lines with Drew Hernandez, seeing this video of this woman just screaming, and it's just so, it's exactly what I experienced for a decade. I'm like, where did these people end up? I keep thinking of, like, the second coming of Christ and, like, how they say in the apocalypse or the end times that christ will

re-emerge to unify the planet or whatever i don't know maybe you know more about it i don't you know but that maybe that's what we need right now with like obviously islam and christianity but now this too yeah well i mean you know obviously christians including myself believe that jesus will come again he promised he would um you know there myself, believe that Jesus will come again. He promised he would. There's some belief that he will come through the East Gate on the Temple Mount. I was just there a week ago. He was not there at the time. Hasn't been there yet.

Well, he clearly didn't come to unify, as he said himself. A lot of us are human nature and human just failing. I mean, we always, human beings through time immemorial have always sort of put themselves at the center of the universe. I mean, that's why I think these pictures from this new satellite that are bringing 150 million years have been extraordinary. But it points just, I mean, not only how many universes there are, but just how remote. How many universes there are? Whoa.

I'm sorry. Multiverse theory. Galaxies. No, galaxies. Thank you. I misspoke, but thank you for stomping me. You may have actually just channeled the truth. I was like, yeah, I think you're channeling the truth there, you know. Multiverse theory, huh?

Well, this is something that I've had deep conversations with smart people, and at the end of the day, physicists can't explain what it's expanding into. And it just gets really, you know, and the curvatures and things bending and donuts and all that.

And I just, I think these pictures are just extraordinary. Because if you look at the, like the size of, what was it? The size of like a pin, the head of a pin. And it had all of these galaxies in it. Now you want to know. And you just think like, you know, we're just like on this random one arm of one galaxy. Kind of really sort of outside of the middle of all this. It's just, I don't know.

It blows your mind sometimes. There's a scary thing about it though, right? The universe is expanding. Ian's looking at me like either, yeah, I totally agree. I agree. I think all the waveforms. It blows your mind sometimes. There's a scary thing about it, though, right? The universe is expanding. Ian's looking at me like either, yeah, I totally agree, or dude, you're freaking me out. I agree. I think of all the waveforms. There's so much life in this universe, I would imagine.

There's so much of us. Here's a scary thing. They say the universe is expanding, and it's expanding faster, right? It looks like it is. There will come to a point where the universe has expanded so much, when you look into the night sky, you will see literally nothing. the light is moving away from I don't know why is moving away from us faster than it can come to us people in that era will think there is nothing else I think it's an optical illusion because the

universe is twisting around on itself you mentioned the doughnut the porous and that because it's because the wavelength is turning, it looks like it's changing color. It's called the red shift in nature. And they say, well, that means it's getting further away, but it might just be that the wave is bending and it looks like it's becoming a shorter frequency or a longer frequency, depending on how it's bending.

And it's just twisting. Okay. Perhaps, and perhaps we'll go to Super Chats. longer frequency depending on how it's bending and um it's just twisting that's uh okay perhaps and perhaps we'll go to super chats if you haven't already would you kindly smash that like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends if you like it and head over to timcast.com become a member we're gonna have that members only show coming up at 11 p.m last night we had zoobie on that was a really great conversation and of course you also want to check out if you're looking for something to do while you're on a road trip or it's late night

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Let's read some super chats. Bree Sullivan says, is the death penalty a deterrent for drug dealers? Aren't their executions less refined than ours? Whose executions? The drug dealers, like the cartels? Yeah. They find these bodies heaped in a pile and stuff. Well, yeah, so what do you think?

Do you think the death penalty deters crime? That's actually, I don't know. The honest answer is I don't know. I think many death penalty eligible crimes are crimes of passion, and I'm not sure people consider when they're killing another human being that they're going to be punished. At the same time, I think it also is like the society's statement on what the moral code is.

Right. Yeah. All right. GK Mastin says, Do you know about Bill Whittle and his plan to make a Star Trek-like open universe for animated shows that aren't woke? He's a fan of yours

and your efforts to make entertainment fun again. Cool. Glad to hear it. Thank you. I didn't know that. Oh, you're a fan of yours. I'm sorry. This is your super chat.

Yeah, talking about launching new shows. All right. John Smith says, Matt, please run against Rhino Joni Ernst in 2026. What are your political aspirations? You going to run? So I lost to Joni in a primary in 2014. Joni is a friend of mine.

Obviously, Iowa is a very small state, so people that are active and involved know each other. You know, I don't have any immediate desire to run for office. There was a lot of people that wanted me to run this year. Chuck Grassley is our longtime U.S. Senator. They wanted me to either primary him or they wanted me to run for Attorney General. I'm happy with where I am. I've offered myself to the Iowa voters twice now and, uh, have not been successful, um, statewide. And so I'm, you know, I'll, I'll look for opportunities for

public service. You know, maybe that's in the next administration. Maybe that's, um, you know, sort of doing my, my thing, you know, with my, my show and, uh, you know, the other ways, I don't know. I mean, I, I, so as a believer, you know, in God, I think, you know, a lot of this is part of God's plan and he's given me certain, um, abilities and talents and, you know, some of those lend themselves to public speaking and doing other things. But at the same time, you know, I'm very content. I don't need it. And that's, that's a great place to be. Cause I think when I was a younger man, I sort of needed, um, you know, I was very ambitious and I needed that, um, that victory because I'm, you know, very competitive. I played college football.

I played sports growing up. But now I'm in a good place and, you know, really am enjoying what I do now. But at the same time, you know, if the president were to ask me to do something, I would certainly be very interested. Well, let's get this one. Cracker Jack says, me and the wife were talking. I wanted to ask you if you think Trump will truly clean house, like he says, because we still have our doubts after his last run. Granted, he was held back by Democrats. Trump said he wants to fire everybody.

What do you think? Is he going to do it? Yeah. So I've been reading the news reports too, and I think this president for much of the administration was limited by a lot of the people he had in place. And some of those were career. A lot of them were his own political appointees.

And I think he is much smarter, much keener on that. He's trusting fewer people. He understands that who the deputy attorney general at the Department of Justice matters. And it's all the way down in every organization. So, yeah, I think he's a lot more attuned. Is he going to clean house? I think he's going to count a lot on some key people to execute his plan. He'll be a lot more effective in the first two years than he was last time.

Yeah. If he only ran one commercial from now until Election Day where he goes, ladies and gentlemen of America, if you elect me, I'm going to fire everybody. Have a nice day. I'd be like, okay. You got my vote. Go for it. There's too many people in this government.

We need to clean up, get the corruption out of there, drain the swamp, fire the swamp monsters, whatever, bring in new people, vet new people. And our founding fathers never intended public service to be a career. They thought it would be a sacrifice that you had to go away from, you know, ride a horse or a train, initially a horse, and then, you know, sort of be inconvenienced. And now it's just that we have these career, you know, politicians that all they've ever done is politics. All they've ever done is be elected. And it's not good for the republic. So Christina H., with one of the most important superchats I've ever read,

what do you get when you cross an angry sheep with an angry cow? Two animals that are in a bad mood. That was too good. I had to read that. a bad mood. That was too good. I had to read that. That was good. That was too good. Yeah, we needed that. That was good.

I hope a bunch of people laugh for the silliness of the joke. All right. Joe Byrne says, just got told at my security job that we will be enforcing a new mask mandate policy within the county. I plan to remind the frustrated employees who to thank for this come November. Yep. Ant-Man says drug dealers are turning people into zombies. Look up the Kensington area of Philadelphia to see how bad things actually are. People shooting up in public and being unable to function in society.

Yo, did you see those videos? No. When the kids get off the bus from school, and there's, like, people standing there, and they're, like, strung out. I did see that, and they had to walk through it. Yeah. That's horrible.

Get out of cities, man. I appreciate all of the 20s in chat for the moo joke. Thank you, Christina. That was fantastic. Truly wholesome, yes. All right. Ramtak says, Should A says should ag garland recuse himself from an investigation of trump i doubt he will should he well he would have to do the same

uh you know analysis uh for you know whether or not he has a conflict um i you know i'm just off the top of my head i can't think of anything but i haven't really done i haven't thought through the facts and circumstances all right he certainly should recuse himself for hunter biden i don't think there's any doubt about that we should get a special prosecutor yeah no that's true there should be a special counsel point there's i just can't imagine a world where um the you know but this is you know left does you know if you remember this is a long tradition of uh the democrats in control of the department of justice never taking the political appointees out of prosecution decisions. They just won't do it.

All right. Greg Cox says, The government supplied cartels with weapons, fast and furious, and shuttled drugs to inner cities. Freeway Ricky Ross. Our government is broken fundamentally. Trump says it constantly. Why should we trust him on this as

he is part of the system uh i think trump tries i think he tried i think he made mistakes because he was naive i think trump thought that if he got elected president he'd be able to get the job done because well he's the president then he realized there's a bureaucratic state that's gumming up the works and he figured it out too late. I think what the Schedule F stuff happened in 2020. It's like the last year he had. And he's like, okay, Schedule F. We're going to fire these people and then try again next time. We'll see.

All right. I'm not your buddy guy says, despite my support for the death penalty, my biggest issue is I can easily see leftists using it on their political opponents. They really have lost it. Regardless, we should make asylums great again. What does that mean? Asylums. For people who are mentally ill. Lock them up.

That could get bad real fast. Yeah, they'll just lock you up. They'll be like, you're a conservative. That's a mental illness. Lock them up. They were notoriously bad in the 80s. Reagan ended a lot of them and put a lot of people onto the street. Supreme Court also ruled that essentially you can't detain people without...

There was a fundamental right to be free and not be detained. Talking Cover says, please tell Matt, go big red from a IRL Cornhusker fan. He'll get it being from Iowa. Friendly rivalry. Oh my goodness. Everywhere I go. I mean, IRL Cornhusker fan. He'll get it being from Iowa. Friendly rivalry. Oh, my goodness.

Everywhere I go. I mean, I'm telling you, everywhere I go, these Nebraska fans are always, you know, want to be representing. I don't think they've beat us in, like, the last six or seven years. What position did you play? I was a tight end. Nice. You were in the Rose Bowl, right?

I played in the Rose Bowl in 1991. Were you blocking a lot, or did you play pass? So I caught, again, the chat should be able to look this up, but I caught like 20, 22 balls over the course of my career, two touchdowns. I had a good time. It was a great way to pay for school. All right, we got one for you. Greg Cox says, this guy was acting attorney general.

Does he not read the filings that cross his desk? Didn't he have access to the previous filings? If he disagreed, why didn't he investigate? As a DOD funds manager, I kept all paperwork for nine years to current. Does the AG office not keep that standard? I mean, I did read everything that crossed my desk. I didn't retain my files.

I left, um, on Valentine's day of 2019. So, I mean, I was, you know, I haven't gone.

They should all, all the documents should be there. There's no doubt about that. I mean, what can you do as a GM? I mean, can you launch investigations? Can you,

yeah, I mean, there's a, there's a lot you can do. There's a lot you shouldn't do as well, but you know, you need to have your, um, you know, finger on the pulse of that institution,

and especially anything that's important that's going to happen, you need to be fully briefed. If necessary, you have the authority and responsibility to insert yourself in it. When Trump gets elected, he should appoint Marjorie Taylor Greene as Attorney General. Can he do that? Is she a lawyer? No. Do you have to be? I'm pretty sure to be the Attorney General.

I would have to look at the— You don't got to be a lawyer to be a Supreme Court Justice, I'm pretty sure. That's true. You have to be learned in the law, but you don't have to have a law degree. I think to be Attorney General, you have to be an attorney. Oh, okay. Then who do you get? Who's a good lawyer?

Will Chamberlain. That would be—go back to the— Will Chamberlain. There you go. The Justice Department was formed in the Grant administration and I had the great fortune

to go to the archives and seeing the document, the original document signed, the bill that was signed by Grant. That was really cool. All right. Well, then we'll have to find a good lawyer.

Maybe he'll do with Jeffrey Clark. Cash Patel? Yeah, Jeffrey Clark. Oh, yeah, Cash.'ll have to find a good lawyer. Maybe he'll do Jeffrey Clark. Cash Patel, yeah, Jeffrey Clark. Oh, yeah, Cash. Yeah, yeah. But Cash was doing something else, wasn't he? Yeah, he served some other role. He started as a public defender, and then he became a terrorism prosecutor.

No, but what was he appointed to in the Trump administration? Oh, so he was the DOD's chief of staff. Right, right. He was also on the National Security Council doing terrorism. And he was Rick Grinnell's deputy. Deputy DNI, I think. All right. The Anvil says, 15 years in corrections.

Do my job for a year and you'll change your mind on the death penalty. That is a horrifying prospect because my position on the death penalty is that there are very very bad people who deserve death but the issue isn't the bad people who deserve death it's the innocent people who get caught in the system and get put to death so if the idea was that people were saying Robert Barnes for AG I'd take it absolutely

if people are saying that or if your idea is that I would go to a prison and see bad people and be like well I don't care about the innocent getting caught up in the system anymore because these people suck. No, that's a terrifying prospect. My issue is that Kamala Harris is a very bad person. And imagine what kind of person Kamala Harris

will be given the power to, where she had the power to decide who lives or dies. I'm not saying it is her. I'm saying imagine someone like her in that position. So just think about that. And then cross your fingers and hope it's not her. Because one day it will be someone like her. Not a fan of that.

Not a fan. But look, I got to admit, I don't even know if there's an answer. Because you got to do something with people who are duly convicted under due process. Somebody gets convicted, what do you do? You say, well, lock them in a box for the rest of their lives because it's better than killing them? Well, you could be doing that to innocent people too, and then there's still problems. All right, let's grab some more super chats.

Smothers says, we heart ghost and lady emoji. There you go. Thank you. The Swiss Army Man says, go state. Beat Iowa, ISU, ISU, ISU. No, no. I don't get it. I don't get it.

I'm a proud Hawkeye, but you didn't hear me once say that Iowa State is an inferior football team. I never say that. Well, he says, in all seriousness, though, this is a great show. Great that the show is attracting such great guests. There you go. Well, they didn't realize how much you're paying me to be here, right? Oh, yeah. No one knows.

We'll talk about that. Yeah, a whole lot of nothing. Sean 46 says, thank you, Tim Poole, for all your hard work. Great stuff. Please ask Mr. Whitaker if he appointed attorney John Durham. Was his son attorney John J. Durham also appointed special prosecutor? Oh, I'm sorry. If he appointed attorney John Durham.

Yeah, did you? I did not. So John Durham has a son who's also a federal prosecutor in New York City. Yeah, did you? I did not. So John Durham has a son who's also a federal prosecutor in New York City. I see. Eastern District, who worked a lot on the MS-13 cases for us. And so it's sometimes confusing because there's two John Durhams at the Department of Justice. All right. Let's see. Only One Truth says,

Research CSRQSM and ask Tim Poole if he has sold us all out. Are you S-Class, Tim? Are you gatekeeping the truth? I have no idea what that means. But it sounded funny, so I wanted to read it. Okay, anyway, moving on. Social media, social management software. I don't know exactly what it is, though.

Oh, no idea. All right. Let's grab some super chips. I don't think we're gatekeeping the truth. I'd say not. No, I don't know. We do a two and a half hour. You know what I love is when we have people like Marjorie Taylor Greene on, and she's a member of Congress who just talks.

There's no canned responses, no scripted talking points, no list of journalists to call from. I don't know the truth. I watched Jacinda Ardern, is that her name, the New Zealand Ardern, being like, we are the arbiters of truth. If you don't hear from us, it's not real. Only the truth comes from us. Dude, I'll tell you what I know or what I see,

but you've got to question me. I don't know what I know. I can't guarantee that what I've been told is real. Well, and most things are pseudo events. There's very few real events. Most are like press conferences or things that are just created. I love it.

The idea that a corporation or a politician is going to come and give you the truth when a crisis happens. It's like Deepwater Horizon spill. You think they're going to come out and tell you the truth? Yeah crisis happens. It's like deep water horizon spill. You think they're going to come out and tell you the truth? Yeah, right. Dude, the dog could barf on the floor and a dude's going to lie to his girlfriend about it. You think a major corporation is going to come tell you the truth?

No, come on. If you can't handle pissing off your neighbor when he comes over and he sees spilled trash, it must have been a raccoon. You think they're going to be like, oh, that oil in your bay and all your shrimp getting killed or whatever? Yeah, you're right. All right.

Sega Infinite says, I usually watch IRL the day after on 1.5 speed. Today I'm watching live and it'll be the first time I'll be watching the after show as I just got my membership this morning. Awesome. Yes. Cool beans. Looking forward to seeing it. If you don't, I mean, I've saved a lot.

Oh, good. For the after show oh good oh yeah because i mean yeah we that this has been the challenge it's like we go through a list of like okay youtube will ban that youtube will ban that youtube will ban that and so look i'll say it i say it often there's a lot of people who are like stop doing your show on youtube and it's like dude youtube domin YouTube dominates the space. So we just try to create a bridge. And that bridge is you watch it here. We put articles on timcast.com. We create shows on timcast.com. We have the members only platform. The reason why it costs money to be a member is because it costs money to host the videos and for us to keep going.

YouTube, you guys super chat. It keeps things going. There's ad revenue. And we, I'd much prefer not to be on YouTube, but I think of YouTube as an excellent opportunity for regular people to get exposed to this content and then find our website where we can have very serious conversations. Watch the conversation with Marjorie Taylor Greene last week. We were talking about what the Republicans are going to do in November as it pertains to the 2020 election, things like that. Plus, you need to be able to afford the bourbon I'm about to drink. That's right.

The bourbon. We've got to afford it. We've got some good bourbon, for sure. Good stuff. Absolutely. We don't pay our guests. Yeah, I know. But we take care of our guests.

I know. Yo, we've had some people that we've invited on the show respond with honorariums and fees. Really? Excuse me. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And like nobody, nobody gets paid to come on here.

I said yes. That was... Actually... And then we screwed up the date. Yeah, yeah. Oh, is that what happened? Yeah. They're like,

well, we have these other 10 people. You want to join them? No. 10? This is all going to be about Matt today. This is a whole spotlight, Matt. I know, right? I mean, this is...

Did they get to see this? Oh, yeah. It's gorgeous. Are we saving this for the members? That is a spitting image. She chooses flattering pictures. It's awesome. I guess that's my official picture.

I don't know. It's really well shaded. We have a wall of all of these pictures that Jessica has drawn of everybody. We wanted to NFT them or something. Create a database. Back in the day when that was a thing? It still is.

It is? Okay. I'm not saying we're going to get a million dollars. Get.05 Ethereum. Or ETH as you guys call it. If we sold one and someone paid $20 for the official digital... I own some crypto. What are your favorite cryptos? I'm only in, I think, Bitcoin and Ethereum.

I do have some stable coin. Let me see what it's called. Bitcoin is in a league of its own. Everything else is basically a stock and a bank. Gosh darn it. Where is it? USDT. I have some Gemini US dollar that's yielding me somewhere around five, six.

I think you can check it. I'm not endorsing it. I'm just saying I like yield. Can't beat inflation right now. Bitcoin took a big hit, but it literally does not matter to me. I have the Bitcoin for the Bitcoin, not for its U.S. value. So I've been in Bitcoin since Bitcoin was a couple bucks. Granted, when Bitcoin hit 20 bucks, I got all excited and sold it.

I was like, yeah, I made a couple hundred dollars. Yeah. Yep. Should trust your instincts. I think I'd like $20. Yeah, no, I think it's going to be interesting how government regulates crypto. That's going to be a very, very interesting thing to watch, because they don't understand it, and so they might just kill it by the way they want to regulate it.

They'll try. The thing about Bitcoin is you can't. Yeah. It's like trying to ban gold. It's like, yeah, you can. People are still going to use it. All right. Leo McDougall says Ammon Bundy is running for governor in Idaho.

Would be a great guest. Yeah, interesting. That would be a great guest. Very interesting. Idaho, Iowa, Ohio, it's all the same. Yeah, it be a great guest. Yeah, interesting. That would be a great guest. Very interesting. Idaho, Iowa, Ohio, it's all the same. Michael Alio says China currently is experiencing a wave of modern feminism, but

any wokeness that would affect nationalism is heavily suppressed. Interesting. Where do they get the idea that they're having feminism take over? I know their banks are collapsing. That's particularly bad for them. I'm interested in what's on their internet.

Yeah. Probably all just pro-communist party stuff. What else can you say? A lot of people say it's like educational content and I don't know. We got an angry one here from BoxFedTV. He says, how could you allow ray and the fbi to get

away with this they are hunting conservatives ray shouldn't should be in gaunt bet and guant bay weak republicans have allowed all of this you didn't fight who ordered the stone raid uh this is my point is that that somebody in the field office in florida ordered the stone right or it was you know higher up could you fire at fbi if you could get to who i mean this is you know that's the it's really hard to reach down that many layers and you know get to fire them all well you can't they're all i mean this is this is federal employees yeah this is trump's point you have one political appointee at the fbi 40 000 employees employees, and Chris Wray is the only political appointee. Wow.

In order to fire federal employees, it's ridiculously difficult. Yeah, well, President Trump was just talking about it today. There's three levels of appeal after you try to fire somebody. Each round takes about five years. I mean, now, that's President Trump describing what somebody has probably told him or otherwise, but I believe that.

I know that it's very, very, very, very hard to get rid of a career employee. But you've got to get creative. You don't just go in and be like, let's start the appeal process. You can reassign people. You can move people around.

You can get, you know, I mean, obviously, you've got to be, you know, it's. Put all 40,000 in Iowa. That would be too much federal law enforcement. We already have, you know, sort of. Probably a safe state, though. It would be a very safe state. Too much law enforcement, though. Yeah.

People of Iowa would not want that many FBI agents. Do you find that people in law enforcement look for crime? I mean, obviously some people are, but where it's not there. I've heard the FBI will actually incite crime so that they can bust people that they think might be a problem in the future. But did you get that vibe? No, I didn't get that vibe. It's a target-rich environment. You have people committing crimes all day.

I mean, we were talking earlier about the fraud threshold is how many millions somebody has to steal before it's a federal case. I mean, I'm not going to tell the story because it's not good. But let's just say that there's plenty of work for the FBI to do without creating, enticing, or otherwise making people that wouldn't otherwise commit crimes commit crimes. Now, in the realm of terrorism and people that want to do harm to our country, I'm sure that there have been artifices that have been employed with people that are here illegally and otherwise don't have the same constitutional rights or due process rights. But these are not examples. I'm giving you a generic example that I don't have exact experience with.

I just think that once you're talking about people that want to blow up buildings or create mass casualty events, I think kind of all bets are off. All right. But that would take a high threshold to get to that. You wouldn't just do that willy-nilly. John L. says, Whoopi also said that Jill Biden should be Surgeon General, that she is an excellent doctor. I almost fell off my chair when I

saw the clip. It's an older clip. It's making its rounds again. Did you see this? I didn't, but I believe it. Amazing. And then they're like, I think she's a teacher. And she goes, really? I thought she was a doctor. It's like, yeah, she's not even really a doctor. It's like, yeah, she's not even really a doctor. It's like an honorary educational title or something like that. Yep, yep, yep.

Let's see. Paul Thongham says, want to see Ian be put in front of Donald Trump and talk about graphene? We can get Trump on board. Yeah, I think it's the bridge between the environmentalists and the national industrialists because we can start cleaning the air and make the greatest graphene production facility on earth and start selling it to the world and become an economic powerhouse what if like we interviewed donald trump in the next few months we go up to jersey and then just mid-show ian's just like graphene and trump goes wait what are you talking about and then he just goes off on this tangent and then trump is like

i'm gonna make you graphene czar when i'm president and then he actually does and then you know the guys in suits show up with a helicopter in the lawn and they're like ian you need to come with us that'd be cool and then the because we're gonna have to we'll have to work together globally so we don't take too much out of the air we it's gonna be a huge carbon from other places man from asteroids from the moon we gotta mine the moon but i'm starting local burn fossil fuels yeah you can actually upscale fossil fuels. You mine coal, and then you hit it with lasers and turn it into graphene. It burns cleaner. What about borophene?

So I don't want to admit, but this is not the first conversation in the last five days that I've had on this topic. Graphene? Yeah. Well, just the whole solutions to all the world's problems. Oh, yeah, yeah. I got a few more. Ian's graphene is becoming influential on it.

We can fertilize the ocean with iron oxide to regrow plankton, which will cause fish blooms. And then we can fragment the coral, called microfragmentation, into thousands of particles of coral. And then you put them all near each other, and it all grows together. You can reform coral reefs. We can grow new coral reefs on Mars. It's going to be fun.

Mavis says, it's HPS. Harry Potter syndrome. Leftists want to run around pretending to be Dumbledore's army, not realizing they're the Death Eaters. Well, considering it's the only book they've ever read, that's a good point. This is funny.

Seamus points out the only book the left reads are Harry Potter and The Handmaid's Tale. But considering they were both adapted into film and television, they probably just watched it. Yeah. I agree. Unfortunately. I like the I agrees. Michael McCord says... Can I go back and read this super chat after i'm after we oh

yeah there's tons there's tons i can't read all of them yeah we don't have time all right michael mccord says look at the text of the constitution you can impeach any civil servant in the federal government even better they can't serve again really that all right we'll grab a couple more here mike cannily says would would anyone be surprised if the documents needed to prove Hunter and Joe Biden's involvement in illegal foreign affairs happens to be in a building in Ukraine that no longer exists? Of course I would not be surprised. Probably been misplaced. Yeah. Like the guest list.

All right. Let's grab a couple more. Oh, so you admit that there was. No, not our guest list. A certain guy with an island's guest list. Ethan Holloway says, Hey, Tim, you tell people to move to the country. My family is from the Allegheny Mountains near you.

Rural lifestyle, Appalachia poor. Blue city dem have money to buy our land to escape. What makes you think they won't ruin our way of life? That's a good point. They might. But I don't think the people that I'm talking to are those people, right? The people I'm talking to want exactly

what you're talking about. The Democrats who live in the cities who want to flee probably aren't watching TimCast. They should be. I mean, they should be, and then they should abandon their cult mentality. Yeah, exactly. But I think the people who watch will be like, you know what?

Actually, I'll say this without saying the name. There's one of our friends who lives in the Newark area who's talking about coming out here, and they have great values, and they oppose all the same stuff you do. And this is what I'm saying. You can't just be scared that people are going to come and try and corrupt your way of life. You need to actively recruit, too. So just do the best you can. If you haven't already,

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then come join us subscribe um and also you get to shoot money at us if you super chat so i highly incentivize you to do so. Someone mentioned that because when the crisis parties keep happening, you guys stay on the show longer. It should be called hostage parties. Yes. No, literally, we are being held hostage every single time. Right? That's awesome. Hey, guys, you can follow me at IanCrossland.net. Get in touch with me, social media.

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because tomorrow I will be guesting. We're going to talk about awesome stuff. We always do. We don't talk about politics. It's a relief. It's a lot of fun. And they go hard every day, 3 to like 5 p.m. It's awesome.

You guys can follow me on Twitter and Minds.com at SarahPetchlitz as well as SarahPetchlitz.me. Also, for all of you that are in New York, go check out Times Square because we have two 96-foot tall billboards on a two-minute loop of all of our shows and hosts. Mary's on the billboard. Ian's on the billboard. We got Luke and Malice back up there. I'm up there. I got my laser eyes yeah we gave we gave mary laser eyes on the billboard because i'm like dude if you're not ish posting like what are

you even doing and then we have a 96 foot tall roberto jr my rooster and then on the right panel because it's two billboards is the cartoon of him screaming into the sky and then the anime rooster battle um totally worth it this is what i'm talking about you know somebody mentioned the irreverence they were like I love it and I said yeah how come how come like we're not that successful I mean we are successful

but you take a look at some of these bigger well-known individuals and they don't do fun stuff like just buy a bunch of billboards and put clowns throwing pies I don't know just do something we'll figure it out clowns throwing pies

I mean like I actually I shouldn't say anything but we have figure it out clowns throwing pies i mean i had an idea i i actually i shouldn't say anything but we have some ideas involving clowns okay i'm just like where where's the fun where's the where's the weird where's the irreverence where's like the shock to the system where's the culture jam alex stein knows what's up all right we'll leave it there we'll be all over we'll see you all over at timcast.com for that member show thanks for hanging out bye guys