Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #581 - DOJ COULD Charge Trump Criminally, Story May Be HOAX w/Ned Ryun & Lauren Southern

Episode Date: July 28, 2022

Tim, Ian, and Lydia host historian and commentator Ned Ryun along with Lauren Southern to discuss the mainstream media's repeated lies about Trump facing charges over January 6th, the Mexicans who wan...t Americans to go home, Trump's hopes to sue CNN for defamation, The View apologizing to TP USA over their Nazi allegations, 538's prediction that Democrats will win the Senate, and women hiking a mountain with kitchen sinks strapped to their backs to prove some mundane point about patriarchy or something. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We got this story about Donald Trump, right? They're claiming that his actions are under investigation. And what does that really mean that someone's actions are under investigation? Doesn't mean he is. But of course, as we expected, many left news outlets started saying Trump is under investigation because surely that's what that means. No, it doesn't. That's the game they're playing. At the same time, Merrick Garland was asked if he would bring about charges to Donald Trump and he didn't rule it out. He says, you know, we're going to pursue justice equally or whatever. So what does it really mean? It may be one big media hoax trying to claim that Trump will be investigated or will be charged because they're trying to rile up Democrats to
Starting point is 00:00:33 vote in November. I don't know if I believe it. So we'll talk about that. We've also got some other really funny stories. Trump is threatening to sue CNN saying he's going to do it. And then The View has apologized to Turning Point USA, although many people are saying that it is inadequate. And I listened to their apology and I also think it's fairly inadequate because they really, really defamed TPUSA, who is
Starting point is 00:00:56 now threatening to sue The View, which is probably why they issued their apology. So we will be talking all about that. And don't forget to head over to TimCast.com become a member. Check out our new shows. Tales from the Inverted World is up. New episode Sundays at 10 a.m.
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Starting point is 00:01:32 Without further ado, we are being joined by Ned Ryan. Good to be with you. Yeah, this is fantastic. Who are you? A lot of friends that have been on. It's great to be here. Founder and CEO of American Majority. We do political training, state and local.
Starting point is 00:01:48 The goal being we've got to build a farm team at the state and local level that's how you bring about national generational change kind of reverse engineering what the progressives did 100 years ago started a state and local reform movement built from the ground up obviously radically changed this country put us in the wrong direction um i'm a big believer that politics is policy that unless you win politically all you're doing is having great conversations about policy. You have to have political power to actually implement your ideas. I think we've got to change culture. Yeah, no, that's actually absolutely part of it. I think that's more of a long-term play.
Starting point is 00:02:14 I think the short-term play, people do ask me how we're going to get back to normal. We get political power, and we beat the left into unconditional surrender. But you have to be focused on actually doing that in a systematic way of identifying, training, getting people into office, having the right ideas implemented. Telling everyone to go and vote for, get three of their friends to go out and vote in November. Yeah, get out and vote. Voter registration, we train people on some of that. There's a lot of different things that I think are required and been involved in the movement for a while. And it's been one of those things that the conservative movement has to be more oriented towards action.
Starting point is 00:02:49 I feel like we get stuck on our ideas, and we like to write white papers and talk about all these fantastic ideas, but it's towards action. Action is the soul of revolution. Sounds good, man. That should be interesting. Plus, they got FiveThirtyEight claiming Democrats are actually favored to win now, but we'll see. That's insane. I know, I know. I know you want to— We'll get into it. We'll get into it. Plus, they got FiveThirtyEight's claiming Democrats are actually favored to win now. But we'll see.
Starting point is 00:03:05 That's insane. I know. I know. I know you want to. We'll get into it. We'll get into it. Lauren Southern's back with my $1,000 whiskey. Pleasure to be here. In a paper cup.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Absolutely. I'm just, I make movies and I'm here to drink Pappy. That's about it. She's intentionally putting $1,000 whiskey in a paper cup because she knows all the whiskey fans are going to get triggered. Oh, disgusting. That was a club pour because she knows all the whiskey fans are going to get triggered that was disgusting that was that was a club for too by the way like maybe yeah wow uh lauren uh for those that don't know who you make movies and you drink whiskey yeah i'm a documentary filmmaker do a little bit of shit posting on the internet here and there but mostly
Starting point is 00:03:42 yeah just movies youtube videos cultural, cultural commentary, all that. Oh, am I not allowed to swear? Have I already broken the rules? I mean, you can. We just try not to, because you just smashed the glass ceiling. I get one pass, right? Yeah, once a month.
Starting point is 00:03:57 YouTube cares. Nah, nobody cares. All right, we got Ian chilling. Hi, everyone. I did put some collagen in my coffee. I absolutely love this stuff. That's the keto stuff. I put the C8 MCT and a little bit of collagen.
Starting point is 00:04:08 This is not an ad. It's just delicious. He really does do it. Follow me at IanCrossland.net, but let's talk more about it. I want to talk to you, Ned, about the political action. Because you're actually inspiring people to run for office locally. This is badass. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:04:19 And you've got to equip them to be successful, to win. It's all about winning, which we've kind of lost sight of. Agreed. i'm also here in the corner i'm very excited to talk to ned he's very knowledgeable in history and lauren is always a blast as well let's get into it here's the big story from cnn merrick garland does not rule out charging trump and others in january 6th pro and uh i'm just gonna say it i want to the lead. I think the story is a big hoax. I think it's a big nothing burger. And how do you say nothing while still riling up Democrats? This is exactly how you do it. You go to someone when there's no criminal investigation and no charges and say, would you charge him if you found a crime? Well, we're not going to rule out anything. There's no there's no look Look, let me show you the story from Washington Post Justice Department investigating Trump's actions in January 6th criminal probe.
Starting point is 00:05:10 And we addressed that a little bit last night. But I'm like, I'm seeing all this news pop up. I got to just say it right now. Let me put it this way. Lauren Southern is drinking my very expensive whiskey. Let's say we did not know who was doing it. And so I decide, I know Ian doesn't drink it, but I'm going to investigate what he was doing this night. Not that I'm accusing him of stealing my whiskey, but something he did may lead me to information about what happened to my whiskey. This is how I know in my, this is why I would say, in my opinion, this story from the Washington post is total BS investigating Trump's actions. you can't criminally charge someone's actions. It may be that they're fishing. It may be there's someone else under criminal investigation. And they're looking at what Trump said to him to see if this
Starting point is 00:05:54 person committed a crime. But if I'll just tell you right now, if Trump really was under criminal investigation, they would be screaming it to the high heavens. Right. But can we get down to the bottom of what this is all about? They're terrified of him. The January 6th committee hearings, this ridiculousness, they're terrified of him running again. They do view him as an existential threat to the system, to the administrative state. This is what all of this is about. It has nothing to do with anything because there is no validity to it. He said he was going to fire everybody.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Exactly. nothing to do with anything because there is no validity to it he said he was going to fire everybody but how exactly how do you actually get trump to not run again in 2024 and ostracize his political supporters from the body politic that's what they're trying to do and i think that's great he's he's taking it head on i mean he came back to dc the other day and spoke in dc and people called it controversial i have no idea like why is it controversial that a former president came and spoke in dc oh because of january 6 the show trial, which has nothing to do with anything about the facts that happened on January 6th. The big story was that he called for the death penalty for drug dealers. Ooh, like Duterte. Very cool.
Starting point is 00:06:57 He was like, China doesn't have a drug problem. I think the January 6th committee hearings have actually helped him on the path to running again for re-election, have actually strengthened him. I agree. And I'll tell you in a re-election bid. And I agree with you. And I think it's because the show trial has been so absurd that it's actually weakened their case against Trump. I think the less people knew about it, many of them were probably like, wow, something bad happened. Then you get this show trial and there's many inconsistencies. And like whenidy hutchinson oh i know that's all hearsay donald trump jumped and grabbed some guy's neck people are probably like what listen listen megats you just don't understand we're gonna get him this time yeah the wall this time we're gonna get him yeah thousands done and this time
Starting point is 00:07:39 it's gonna happen sorry to disappoint it's not i wonder if there are actually people out there though like democrats that are just sitting there watching The View every day, watching Rachel Maddow, that are like, oh my gosh, every time they get riled up and they're still falling for it. I think there's 25-30%. Do those people exist? They have to be out there. Yeah, 25-30%. I think actually believe. It's so embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:07:59 It is embarrassing. It's really embarrassing. But I think a lot of the normies are looking at this, like you said, Tim, and going, there's no there there. You're bringing in Cassidy Hutchinson, all these people. It's hearsay. And then they bring in Pat Cipollone, who basically undermines the Secret Service agents. The more that they're actually advertising and broadcasting, bringing in the ABC producer to Showtime, people are going, what are we talking about? Right. producer to showtime people going there's what are we talking about right here there's no opposing they can't get to there's no cross uh examination let me pull up this year uh amazing meme of chris
Starting point is 00:08:33 pratt the top one is chris pratt with a shocked happy face saying the first time a democrat hears the mainstream media say they have information that will totally bring down trump right and then underneath it it says the 4689th time a democrat hears the msm say they have information that will totally bring down trump right and then underneath it it says the 4689th time a democrat hears the msm say they have information that will totally bring down trump and it's the same happy face no matter how many times they claim it never gets old i remember when uh you know it was like march of 2021 and these like deep conspiracy people were like trump's going to get reinstated as president it's coming and i'm just like me and every other same person was like guys that's never going to happen. It's kind of like when people watch the same movie over and over again or listen to the same song.
Starting point is 00:09:10 And they like it more as they hear it more. Like the 30th time you hear a song, it's like, oh, now it's even more part of my soul. So like, is that what's happening with the media telling them Trump is bad? Is it like getting more? They actually like it even more the next time they hear it. They're all hopped up on hopium. There's no coming down. They're desperate for it to be true.
Starting point is 00:09:31 They are absolutely desperate for it. What would it accomplish if it were true? What would it accomplish, for instance, positively for the country and for people? What do you think would happen? Absolutely nothing. No, I mean, it would only accelerate the rapid separation in parts of our society and culture if you were to weaponize. This is the
Starting point is 00:09:50 other thing, too, that I love that Trump's standing up to this. Somebody's actually standing up to the weaponization of the law, which is Trump, which, if we're not very careful, that's how republics, which technically we still are, end. When you weaponize the law against political opponents. That's exactly what Democrats are trying to do here. See, that's how republics, which technically we still are, end when you weaponize the law against political opponents.
Starting point is 00:10:06 That's exactly what Democrats are trying to do here. See, that's the problem. They're weaponizing it against opponents. We just need to weaponize it against all politicians. I don't disagree at all. I'm an equal opportunist. Yeah, there's plenty of all in jail. I'm OK.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Yeah. Like, I don't know, trading stocks with your insider information. Like, let's just. But you're just talking about accountability for accountability for these people who never face it ever. Yes. Never once. At some point, I mean, at some point, equal application of the law is foundational to our constitutional republic. We have a bifurcated system in which we are now weaponizing the law against political opponents because reasons.
Starting point is 00:10:45 And that's what it's because reasons. This is what media does take a look at this from the independent donald trump being investigated by doj in january 6th criminal probe report says no it doesn't say that at all this is how they launder the information there's no story the washington post has no story the story is investigators asked some people about what trump was doing or something like that and it's like okay does that mean trump is being investigated criminally? No, it doesn't. Maybe he will be. You know, there's a possibility that they're trying to tread lightly in going after him
Starting point is 00:11:14 to not shock the system and cause riots. If they came out and just announced they were doing it, people might get mad. So maybe they're trying to slow roll it. I think the reality is they got nothing. And so they're trying to make it seem like something is happening. And that's why they put the story out. Yeah, well, they need a story. I was just reading a Daily Beast article the other day that said the Pope has come to apologize for mass graves in Canada.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Of course, there's no mass graves and the Pope didn't come with those intentions. But if you scroll down and you click the hyperlinks in the article that's referencing, it all links to other daily beast articles that are completely irrelevant to the article itself and it's like the way they source this stuff the way that they write these articles just desperation for something to latch on to that's you know hyper exaggerated for the audience it's it's tearing our civilization apart it's tearing us apart corporate propagandists i refuse to call them mainstream media on any level. It's corporate propagandists who are not there to actually get to the truth of something, but to amplify the message, the narrative of the system. Yeah, I think for a lot of these people, it's emergent. Some people believe that at these
Starting point is 00:12:18 news organizations, there is a hierarchy of a cabal telling them you must claim Trump did this or that. In reality, it's just people trying to maximize what is acceptable within their sphere to get more clicks. So what happens is the Washington Post publishes a story, exclusive, Trump's actions being investigated. It means nothing. Someone at the Independent is like, ooh, ooh, ooh, I want to get clicks. Trump's being investigated. Because I've heard people say that to me. They said, Tim, this means Trump is being investigated.
Starting point is 00:12:47 I'm like, no, it doesn't. In fact, even Maggie Haberman at the New York Times wrote, this does not mean Trump is under investigation. But they try and do it. This is how these Facebook moms and MSNBC moms and dads get their minds warped. So this independent story is going to get laundered again. And you're going to get some pundit on MSNBC saying. And now the DOJ is investigating Trump in a criminal probe.
Starting point is 00:13:12 I mean, this guy's going down. The walls are closing in. Yeah, they're going to believe it. And reference the independent and everything, because they all just. Yeah, they reference each other's opinion pieces eternally until. It's an echo chamber. Amplify the message. No, it is but i think you're onto something obviously they feed off each other but at the same time they all come
Starting point is 00:13:29 from i call them indoctrination centers of higher learning they've all come out of the same system so they all think the same way they all view the world same way and they just end up in different parts and they amplify each other but they're all coming from the same cult world trilateral i don't know who's doing what's this liberal international economy is like it's there's the liberal international economy, the US, Britain, Australia. And then there's the Chinese international economy, which is like China, Russia, India. And the thing about it is like, yeah, there's like they've mobilized the media, ABC, CNN to work for the liberal international economy.
Starting point is 00:14:01 But I think if Trump was president and was nationalizing industry that it would actually be very good for the liberal international i don't understand why it's like a personal vendetta between him and hillary clinton when he's like you should be in jail he started the whole weaponizing your politics like he threatened to put her in jail on his campaign against her they they i've talked about it ad nauseum with the cutter turkey pipeline donald trump getting our troops out of the middle East, him saying, I don't care about these oil pipelines. That was bad for the liberal international economy. They need that control.
Starting point is 00:14:30 But they want a new world economy. They do want a new world order. They've said it many times. And maybe Trump's just not – they think he's not the guy to establish the new – Trump doesn't want that. Well, there's got to be some sort of world order. Otherwise, it's world chaos. It's the boomer world order, okay?
Starting point is 00:14:44 How old is Hillary Clinton? Does anyone anyone know she's like 70 okay do you know what the average age of our politicians or prime ministers presidents in the u.s was for the past like since the dawn of time it's usually been around 50 it's only been the last few presidents that have been like 70s 80s like getting up there and it's because the boomers just will not let go yeah they won't let go of the industries they won't let go of the political positions and then you've got a lot of young people millennials gen x all these younger generations that see no upward mobility in anywhere in politics no ability to influence the system and the boomers will never give it to them. So as much as I like Trump as a politician, it's just all of this same generation refusing to let go of civilization.
Starting point is 00:15:30 And then every other generation has become apathetic. I will say, though, the boomers aren't all bad. No, of course not. There are some bad ones. Of course not. And they've latched on to power. I think the problem is that millennials are probably going to be worse. Now, I know. I can hear the Gen Xers already screaming, saying, you're cutting us out.
Starting point is 00:15:48 And I'm like, no, no, it's because actually Gen Xers I don't think are all that bad. They're not the ones who are squeezing the reins of power and corrupting the system. These are people who are coming in and doing a moderately good job, and millennials are nuts. So when the boomers finally relinquish power and it floods down to Gen X and millennials, those insane millennials are going to just really screw things up. They're setting an example, these Gen whatever they are, the old people in power right now, that to the millennials, if they do get in power, they're going to want to be there for 50 years because that's what happened before. But they should be in and out. People should be in and out. Yeah, this was never intended.
Starting point is 00:16:20 What we have today. It was never intended to be 40, 50 years in the Senate, whatever it is. It was meant intended, what we have today. It was never intended to be 40, 50 years in the Senate, whatever it is. It was meant to be much. I mean, the average term for a congressman, I think, was what, two? Until turn of the century, turn of the 20th century. I mean, there were a lot of things that have changed dramatically over the last 100 years. You were never meant to be there for as long as they've been. But no, a little bit on Lauren.
Starting point is 00:16:39 I totally agree it's time for new leadership. We've got great leadership coming up. Ron DeSantis. Yes. Josh Hawley. I'm hoping J.D. Vance, Blake Masters. You're going to see a lot of 30 and 40-somethings who are going to be leaders in the Senate. My perfect world is Trump 2024 and Ron DeSantis 2028, 2032.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Ron DeSantis 24. What do you think? I actually love that idea if they could work it out. I think Trump would have to go have his New Jersey and DeSantis out of Florida. But yeah, it could be done. I've heard that, but I read that wasn't true. Really? The president, the vice president.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Yeah, that's a relic of the 1800s. Okay. But that could be real. I think it would be a great ticket. Trump is in New Jersey right now. Right. I think it would be a great ticket. And I think if you right now. Right. I think it would be a great ticket. So maybe he'll change his residency.
Starting point is 00:17:25 And I think if you had Trump to Santus, you set him up perfectly for a run in 2020, he'd only be 49, something like that. Yeah, we need to make room for these new people. There's some really good new young faces coming out. I totally agree. I want one last run with Trump. Yeah, I'd like to see him. And I want him to announce before the midterms, by the way. I wrote a piece on that today.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Why do you think he should announce before the midterms? Because I think he's an asset. Everybody wants to say he's not an asset. I think he's an asset. He reminds people of what was, not what is. Oh, yeah. What did we have? We had 1.7 inflation.
Starting point is 00:17:55 We had 3.5% unemployment. $2 gas. $2 gas. We had a booming economy. Domestic energy, net exporter. Jobs were coming back. We brought the auto industry back to Michigan. Manufacturing jobs.
Starting point is 00:18:06 All of these great things. He was taking it to China. He was emphasizing, even though he wasn't as successful on the southern border as he could have been, he was still getting there. He can remind people of what was. Hey, you want this back? Get all these people in, and we can get us back on the course of taking back the country in 2024. I think he announced this Tuesday after Labor Day. You know what?
Starting point is 00:18:23 When he talked about building a wall, instead of... He phrased it as like, we got to keep out, and then the media was like, Mexicans. What he kind of meant was the cartels and child trafficking. But he didn't emphasize that enough. But did you see the really funny article today in the LA Times about Mexico City
Starting point is 00:18:40 that are deeply resentful of all the Californians and Americans? We don't want them here. They're changing our culture. We want them to go home. Yes. You didn't see this? It was amazing. LA Times.
Starting point is 00:18:50 I'm like, I tell you what, I'll make a deal with you, Mexico. We'll take back all the Americans. You take back all the Mexicans. We're good. Now you see what it's like. Yeah. No, it was actually quite hilarious when they admitted, we don't like having them here because they're changing our culture.
Starting point is 00:19:04 They're changing everything about this city, Mexico City. We don't want them here. But no, I mean, yeah, I think Trump could have been, especially in the cartels, could have been a little bit more precise. But again, I mean,
Starting point is 00:19:16 you deal with the issue of illegal immigration. Let's pull this story out here. We got from the LA Times. I don't know, what would you call this? Irony? A total irony. LA Times writes, Californians and other Americans are flooding Mexico City. Some locals want them to go home.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Many such cases. Amazing. Fernando Bustos Gorozpi was sitting with friends in a cafe when he realized that once again they were outnumbered. We're the only brown people, said Bustos, a 38-year-old writer. We're the only people speaking Spanish Except the waiters It's the great replacement That's what I thought was the funniest We're the only people speaking Spanish here
Starting point is 00:19:51 We feel cut out of our own The influx, which accelerated since the start of COVID So you don't like a taste of your own medicine It's not Mexico, it's people coming from Guatemala Honduras, they're coming from South America They're coming from Africa I totally agree It's more than just Mexicans coming across the southern border.
Starting point is 00:20:07 But this highlights the point, oh, so you don't like it. Okay. No, but most don't. And most are against people coming to America, too. Like Mexicans, they typically are really against illegal immigration. Yeah, they were really angry that the Central Americans were coming up for Mexico. Right. So what we're really seeing is that what I think you you see from this is that people who love their countries who work hard and support
Starting point is 00:20:29 their nation regardless of their cultural background their ethnic background don't like it when other people come to where they are and disrupt their way of life and americans were doing this because of covid people were leaving the united states because of the lockdowns and the restrictions and mexico was freer yeah and so now they're like, they're coming here, they're bringing their problems with them. It's, it's, I don't, I don't, I see it as ironic in that it's the Americans leaving. I see it as perfectly predictable that citizens of Mexico city would be upset that other people from a different country are coming into their country and changing their way of life. Nationalism isn't a bad thing.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Yeah, I think one of the most important things, even if you're talking about globalism, you need to have sovereign national borders. Yes. Because people need to be able to set their own laws based on their cultures and their ways of life. If there are people who want a one world government, right, it will never happen if borders are dissolved because people will be fighting with each other endlessly. It's the same as in nationalism, you need statehood
Starting point is 00:21:28 because you can't have a national police force on every street corner. You've got to have local laws, just like in a global force you need national laws. People who understand the local community problems, how to solve them. You can't solve them from far away. What a shocking concept. Yeah. But I mean, even thinking about this is kind of funny. We don't have borders between states in the way that countries do. And so what happens when someone
Starting point is 00:21:49 from Michigan looking for work goes to New York? People keep flooding to the cities because cities have jobs and their areas don't. That hurts everyone involved. So if you had actually borders, which were more difficult to cross over when michigan's economy started breaking because the auto industry was leaving you wouldn't have the mass exodus which means the economy may have gotten hurt but could have recovered much more quickly with more people requiring services and working for each other instead families left in insane numbers and then the economy just buckles and collapses because there's no one left to support the mission to support the state so this idea of like multiationalism, I guess I'd be like multi-statism.
Starting point is 00:22:29 I don't know. Like multinationalism would be like when a corporation has their headquarters in the United States, but all their production or a bunch of production is overseas, out of the United States. So like maybe you live in Michigan, but you work in Minnesota or something like that. It's legal and it's totally fine and acceptable. But when you see multinationalism, that's pretty destructive. They don't have any allegiance to the United States, even though they're raking in all the benefits of tax law. This was one of my frustrations with the 2017 tax bill that I thought it favored the corporations too much over the small businesses
Starting point is 00:22:59 because these corporations were not America first. They have no inherent loyalty to this country. Exactly. They're trying to get the best tax rate they can get and take advantage of the tax system, but there's no inherent loyalty, and we should have... I made this complaint to the White House. We should have had more favorable terms for the small businesses
Starting point is 00:23:16 because half the workforce is small business. Well, what do you think about the idea of a global minimum tax for corporations? I guess. Like these international treaties where it's like – the idea, I guess, is that a company in the United States will be like, we're going to move our headquarters to this country. Oh, right, to get a tax break? Right. So the idea is if all these countries agree to a treaty, it will stop the corporations from moving. From moving and getting?
Starting point is 00:23:41 Yeah. I don't know if I've given a ton of thought to it. I don't think I'm opposed to it in principle. I think, right, I haven't given enough thought to it. Someone's going to point out in the chat, like, here's a ridiculous problem that will arise from there. But there is an issue that corporations
Starting point is 00:23:56 move their headquarters wherever they can to save their tax money. So they're basically ripping us off. Not that I'm a big fan of taxes across the board, to be honest. Of course. No, no, no. I think that's something that we could have a conversation about across the board, including property taxes, which I find deeply offensive.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Let's read some more of this LA Times story because I do think it's kind of funny. They say, at Lardo, a Mediterranean restaurant where on any given night, three quarters of the tables are filled with foreigners. A Mexican man in a well-cut suit recently took a seat at the bar, gazed at the English language menu before him, and he sighed as he handed it back a menu in Spanish, please. Huh. This is just, it's, it's, how is this real life? I don't know if the LA Times, I'm not sure they fully comprehended what they were writing. Yeah, I vibe with this so hard. I grew up in Surrey, BC.
Starting point is 00:24:47 If anyone knows, like the area that I grew up in is like 70% immigrant now. It's pretty wild. And you go to some places and it's like, I literally can't order food here because no one speaks English. But if I say that, I'm a racist. If LA Times writes about someone who's brown having the exact same experience as me, because we're all human and we all enjoy being able to speak with other humans around us and being able to read our menu suddenly it's not racist when someone else has the exact same internal experience go to wild go to any country and i assure you it say you're in turkey and you hear someone
Starting point is 00:25:19 speaking a north america you hear them speaking english it doesn't matter what their accent or dialect is they're're speaking English. I assure you, you are going to see someone else be like, hey, you speak English. Where are you from? Right. I was in Turkey, and I was in this tower. I think it's on the Great Horn or whatever it's called. It's like an old watchtower, and it's a tourist attraction.
Starting point is 00:25:38 I went up there, and everyone's speaking foreign languages. And then I hear two people speaking with a North American dialect. And then I was like, hey, are you Americans? And they're like, canadians and i was like good enough what's going on what are you doing like hey someone i can talk to and then we talked and it was fun that was it yeah end of story it was like hey you know i can what are you doing here you know it was it's wild it's wild to me that you know like the left always talk about getting mad about the great replacement in like a racial context. Right. But it's like you guys don't even acknowledge how damaging it is to have so many people come in who just don't speak the same language.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Like language is the only way we can connect as human beings, do business, educate each other, love each other. Have common values. You guys won't even acknowledge the importance of that imagine you went to criminal court charged the crime and no one's and no one was speaking everyone was speaking a different language and struggling to communicate that's what happened to amanda knox that's she was actually released from italian prison but her thing was that they didn't under it was like the language barrier was so harsh that they just threw the book at her and was like she's a foreigner they're doing it now with britney griner so apparently the story was she doesn't speak russian and her lawyer was
Starting point is 00:26:48 barely translating what was going on and she had no idea what was happening so they she kept man and ox kept repeating herself saying the same thing because that's all she knew how to say and the the italians took that as she's definitely guilty you know yeah yeah dangerous language barrier i'm a huge advocate of bringing it doesn It doesn't have to be English, but a common language to earth. I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet. I think the internet is. Sorry, we messed that up already. Like in 2003.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Tower of Babel. Tower of Babel. We had that opportunity. We had like a couple thousand years ago. The problem with that is they put it all in one place. So when the tower got blown up, it was lost. But like if it was diasporate and like everywhere of in orbit, underground, in everyone's bedroom, everyone's got their data, maybe there's some value to it.
Starting point is 00:27:30 But the problem is if you lose other language because other language gives you reference that you don't get in English. The word groomer, it has an English definition. But when you talk about what that means, like groom a dog, in other languages, it takes on other connotations and you need that external reference to get a fuller picture yeah in my opinion they're obviously anyone who's ever tried to teach someone another language knows we say things that seemingly make no sense idioms yeah what's up like what does that even mean you're asking you're asking someone what are you currently doing and what's happening in your life? That's like, oh, it's such a sup.
Starting point is 00:28:07 So if someone is trying to learn English and you tell them what's up, they'll look at the ceiling. They'll go, the lights? They don't understand that context in cultural language. So it's like you got to learn that stuff too. There's so much in language that people don't understand is relevant or requires personal experience of the thing. Especially feelings. There are many languages that have words for feelings that are really hard to explain to an English speaker because they've not experienced it without that understanding.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Yeah. It's weird. And we've simplified a lot of things. Like, obviously, the word love, that's just love. We just use it for everything. Sexual love, familial love, that's just love. We just use it for everything. Sexual love, familial love, we just throw it in one word, but then you have the Greek version,
Starting point is 00:28:50 which has 12 or something. Falausha is self-love. Love of the community. Ian brings it up all the time. I'm obsessed with it. And that's because you get that love is love statement, that ridiculous statement in the pedophile or whatever community, the MAP, the minor attracted person community.
Starting point is 00:29:08 And it's like, no, erotic love, eros, is a specific kind of love. It's not familial. Did you just call it the minor attracted community? I hate that so much. Yeah, minor MAP. I just noticed there's the medical psychedelic practices, the MAPs thing, and then there's the MAP, minor attracted person. Have you seen that? MAP is like the The MAPS is like a
Starting point is 00:29:28 Psychedelic studies program I'm going to pull it up I've missed all of that Sorry I missed it all Ridiculous conflation Let's talk about this The story we have here
Starting point is 00:29:36 From the National Review Trump says he intends To sue CNN for defamation Now how much is this Just Trump Blown smoke Or is he really going to do it? It's impossible to sue people.
Starting point is 00:29:47 It is. People don't get it. Was it Clarence Thomas? Did he say that there's a potential case coming in front of the court that will change and actually loosen the standards by which you can actually do these sorts of things? I think that would be a very healthy step in the right direction. So here's what Trump said. He said, I have notified
Starting point is 00:30:03 CNN of my intent to file a lawsuit over their repeated defamatory statements against me. I will also be commencing actions against other media outlets who have defamed me and defrauded the public regarding the overwhelming evidence of fraud throughout the 2020 election. I will never stop fighting for the truth and for the future of our country. Now, that'll be interesting. And I don't think Trump will will get get anywhere with suing them over fraud stuff. First and foremost, I think Trump thoroughly misunderstands a lot of the 2020 election stuff. I think what we saw with Sidney Powell and Lin Wood really exemplifies that. Trump was given a lot of bad info.
Starting point is 00:30:38 I think he's wrong in that regard. He was, but I think he could have focused on the— A good friend, Molly Hemingway, wrote a book, Rigged. I think there are definitely serious questions about 2020, but I think you are right. I mean Sidney, Lynn, all these – the Kraken. Right, right, right, right. Crazy stuff. That threw everything into chaos, and I have to wonder if those people were intentionally working against Trump.
Starting point is 00:31:00 I feel like Lynn Wood was. Because I'll tell you – I want to talk about the lawsuits of the media, so I don't want to get into it. But I will mention, you know, Pennsylvania changing the rules on voting was ruled unconstitutional after the fact. But did you see what Wisconsin State Supreme Court just said recently? They said that the unsecured ballot drop boxes were illegal. Oh, right, right, right. It might have called into question the election. There's a lot of stuff that's weird about it.
Starting point is 00:31:23 This is the problem with Trump and the fraud narrative is that it's procedural. It's procedural questions on policy and law that need to be rectified and don't if that keeps becoming the narrative because it's universal mail-in voting rules. The question of the constitutionality of universal mail-in voting. Election month versus election day. Unmanned drop boxes. So I don't want to get into all that. Yeah, we don't want to go down that. I want to talk about the media lying about January 6th and all of that stuff.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Certainly Trump has his opinion on all those things. I got to say, though, if he's suing on those grounds, dismissed instantly. Yeah. Because for one, the courts are going to be entirely biased against hearing any of this stuff. But if he's talking about January 6th, then I think he might actually win. Like what we're seeing now with the media saying – I'm not saying win in every single instance. I know Lauren gave a look of doubt.
Starting point is 00:32:14 I don't think people – especially when you're a public figure like Trump, even starting these defamation lawsuits – I mean, he'd have the money to do it, I guess. We'd be able to start, but it's so difficult to win a defamation lawsuit. Especially when you're... When you have other media writing the same thing about you, any media company will use that as a defense. They'll say, everyone else is writing the same thing, so we just wrote it. But maybe it's not even
Starting point is 00:32:38 about that. I mean, maybe it's just about bringing this to the forefront again to have a conversation about all of these things. Here's what'll happen. One news outlet, let's call it News Outlet A, will write something false about Lauren. News Outlet B will pick it up. News Outlet C will pick it up. News Outlet A will retract and apologize. And now you have two outlets citing each other.
Starting point is 00:32:57 And if you sue one of those, they'll say it's reported as fact by News Outlet C. You sue them, they'll say it's reported as fact by news outlet C. You sue them, they'll say, it's reported as fact by news outlet B. And then even if it is wrong, they'll say, all we are doing is conveying what another news outlet already said, which we believe to be true. There's no malice and we're allowed to say it. And no one ever sees the correction. It's always published on a different page months later,
Starting point is 00:33:19 but it still counts. It's still good enough. You don't have to, that's what's crazy to me is there's like no legal recourse for if an article about you goes completely viral, there's no expectation that the apology afterwards
Starting point is 00:33:31 that will prevent any sort of legal, you know, financial recouping will be as viral. And there's no, yeah, no expectation. One person could see the correction and that's still, okay, we're not legally culpable now. That's nuts, nuts.
Starting point is 00:33:43 There's pros and there's cons. The idea is that it's difficult to sue anyone in the public space. But the problem then is they just the media, the corporate press lies about basically everything. So I was thinking about this earlier. In order to sue, you need standing and injury, which is insane. How do you prove injury? Are you going to go find the guy who wrote you the donor check, who canceled it, and then have him testify that he was going to, I wrote the donor check. And as soon as I saw that defamation, I tore it up. So proving that is insane. I think we should be allowed to sue for correction. That's it for correction. So you go to a court and you say,
Starting point is 00:34:19 I can definitively prove the spirit of what they're saying. Their statements are untrue. And then maybe they got to pay legal fees if they lose for publishing something false. And that's fair. And then it's like, then they got to issue up an apology, a statement. They got to publish it on the front page and leave it up there for like a week or something for everyone to see. It's remarkable to me that you can have a major press, a major news organization lie. And so I've been through this.
Starting point is 00:34:44 I've talked to lawyers and they're like, what are your damages? And then I was like, well, obviously they're trying to get me banned, shadow banned, reduce wages and things like that, or income. And they're like, can you prove it? It's like, unless we file a subpoena in Discovery against YouTube to ask them if they're – and YouTube does this. In response to smears, YouTube has deranked and shadow banned many people hurting their businesses. How do you prove that to a court? At the very least, I should be able to sue
Starting point is 00:35:09 and say, Your Honor, I can prove that this is false. I would like them to be ordered to issue a correction. That's it. There you go. Do you think that in the correction, they should state that they were also sued to make a correction? So it sets it apart from ones that they just chose to do? Yes, it should say a court upon finding of our defamation has instructed us to correct the record and make sure our audience understands we were wrong on this count and this count and this count. We apologize for the error. It should be on their front page for a week.
Starting point is 00:35:39 That could incentivize them to do it before they get sued so they don't have to make the say like, hey, we got sued also. Well, so this is actually what happens organizations will defame you and then when you move to file a suit they'll retract in a very weak and pathetic way to remove standing and then when you go to a judge they'll say they've already removed the article okay case dismissed and then i'm like now i've lost donors now people won't work here because the media has threatened because that's like pulling the bullet out of someone's arm and being like all right there's no bullet so there's no proof that i shot a good example exactly yep no the wound's still there we need reform on defamation because
Starting point is 00:36:14 i'll tell you this if i made a mistake if i if timcast i can't publish something incorrect and someone came to me and said that's wrong i'd say sorry about that we'll fix it immediately and there you go yeah because you're committed to actually to the truth. So there's no net negative for those who are committed to the truth if we have a system in which you can sue someone to force a correction. No, I think this is a bigger question. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. I mean, obviously, one of the aspects of our society and our republic is a free and fair press that's meant to actually pursue the truth to provide transparency that can then lead to accountability so the American people understand what's going on.
Starting point is 00:36:49 There's accountability. This is the one thing where we clearly do not have a free and honest press. We have corporate propagandists. What are the steps that are needed to actually get them to the point, grudgingly or otherwise, where they're actually focused on trying to be at least objective on some levels i don't know that's when clarence thomas market yeah i mean part of it is winning the market at the same time there have to be consequences for it yeah because there are no consequences right now they can get away with anything literally say anything they want and
Starting point is 00:37:18 then they can call january six people seditious insurrectionists and there are no consequences for that when they had nothing to do with any of that at all. Well, there are people on January 6th who have been charged with that, but they're innocent until proven guilty. But a lot of these people had doors open for them by police. I've seen videos. Yeah, they walked right past. The police just looked at them. Cops waved them in.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Yeah, they waved them in, opened the door. One guy got acquitted because of it. And AOC, Ocasio-Cortez herself, agrees. For videos. Yeah, on the steps of the Capitol. No, if we can't get back to the point, I totally agree with the competition, control the market, or get more of a market share. We've got to figure out how there are consequences. It should not be for profit.
Starting point is 00:37:55 There should be pain. Absolutely. Absolute pain for some of the stuff that they're doing right now. They lied about Trump every step of the way. Almost every single thing ever the shinzo abe thing i remember that one when he was feeding the fish and they they cropped the video so you could only see trump dumping the food in and what they cropped out was that shinzo abe did it first he poured the food in and looked at trump and then trump said okay and threw his food
Starting point is 00:38:21 in but they tried to make it seem like trump did something wrong to insult him. It's insane. Could you say like any kind of news organization that would qualify under protections as a news organization has to be a 501c3? No, no, no. The for-profit news is crazy because they just make it up. It's a problem. That's right. So I'll tell you guys, it's really simple.
Starting point is 00:38:39 CNN, what should they do? Should they spend $100,000 salary to investigate a story? Or do they lie? What makes more money for these corporations? You put out a lie. You get a million bucks from this viral story. The next day you issue a retraction. Here's the best part.
Starting point is 00:38:55 The retraction makes money too. Now the retraction, let's say a news outlet, not just CNN, any news outlet writes an article that goes viral claiming something insane. They get all the ad revenue from it. When they issue their retraction, a small percentage of people will read the retraction, which also has ads on it. So they'll even make money retracting. They don't give back the ad dollars when they retract the story.
Starting point is 00:39:17 They keep them. I think you should be able to sue and you should get all revenue generated from the false piece. Oh, that's a good one. I like that. Love it. I also think just like mocking these outlets into oblivion completely. It's like a scary thing to say we have to destroy faith in like the journalistic institutions, but we do.
Starting point is 00:39:37 We need people to just not trust them at all, which means what they'll do is when they go to sites to read, they'll have to actually read the article. They'll have to see if there's sources and then they can regain trust in a website. They'll be like, okay, this site that I've been reading for a while actually sources things. I'm going to start reading them. There cannot be an immediate assumption
Starting point is 00:39:54 that because it's a journalistic outlet, it's going to be correct. It has to be the opposite. It's an issue of human behavior though. I mean, people don't even read articles. They read headlines. But I was also going to say, are people really looking for the truth are they looking for
Starting point is 00:40:07 something that will reinforce their presuppositions and biases i mean we're just talking about you know for the four thousandths whatever time are they going to get trump it's reinforcing their biases they just want to hear what they already believe right so i don't i don't know i think it's an interesting question let's talk about this next story. We got this from Deadline. The View apologizes after linking Turning Point USA to neo-Nazi demonstrators. I don't think the apology was good enough. No, it's not. They said, Sarah Haynes said, So on Monday we talked about the fact that there were openly neo-Nazi demonstrators
Starting point is 00:40:38 outside the Florida Student Action Summit of the Turning Point USA group. We want to make clear that these demonstrators were gathered outside the event and that they were not invited or endorsed by Turning Point USA group. We want to make clear that these demonstrators were gathered outside the event and that they were not invited or endorsed by Turning Point USA. A Turning Point USA spokesman said the group, quote, 100% condemns those ideologies and said Turning Point USA security tried to remove the neo-Nazis from the area, but could not because they were on public property. Also, Turning Point USA wanted us to clarify this was a Turning Point USA summit and not a Republican Party event. So we apologize for anything we said that may have been unclear on these points.
Starting point is 00:41:09 This is the problem. It wasn't what they said was unclear. It was what they said was untrue. I didn't get the original statement. They said that there were neo-Nazis at Turning Point. Whoopi Goldberg said initially, you let them in though. Okay, so they lied. They didn't say something unclear.
Starting point is 00:41:23 They lied. They come back from commercial and they're like, we got to issue a clarification. They weren't. And she goes, they weren't in the building, but they were all, you know, in the mix. You apologized for lying, not for being unclear. It's different. You lied, Whoopi. Maybe she thought it was real and she said something that she thought was real.
Starting point is 00:41:41 But this is, again, what we're – they should sue. Oh, yeah. For as much money as they can. The Nazis were protesting the event in opposition to it. But one of the ways you actually get
Starting point is 00:41:52 some sort of accountability is paying. I'm a big believer that there have to be consequences and sue them. Yeah, because then the producers will start bringing it on Whoopi's neck.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Like, you can't keep bringing million dollar lawsuits. Yeah, you can't be doing this and at some point the legal counsel is going to come and say, hey, stop. You can't be... Well, they did. This is the can't be doing this. And at some point, the legal counsel is going to come and say, hey, stop. You can't be – Well, they did.
Starting point is 00:42:07 This is the crazy thing. I think they – Well, no, after like another maybe a massive lawsuit that they lose and settlement or whatever. No, no, no. When Whoopi defamed them, they came back and she said, I have to issue a notice. They weren't in the building. The producers clearly went to her and said, you can't lie like that. And then she – they come back from commercial or whatever and she's like, okay, everybody, they weren't lie like that. And then they come back from commercial or whatever,
Starting point is 00:42:25 and she's like, okay, everybody, they weren't in the building. So maybe some producers have some moral ethics on the view still. It's not about moral ethics, it's about fear. Well, it is about fear. Losing your job. And so I think Turning Point should still sue because I'd argue this was not enough. They needed to clarify.
Starting point is 00:42:40 The people who were there were actually protesting and hate Turning Point USA. There was no connection. The groups were the Turning Point USA people were screaming at them and they were they were like yelling at each other. The view is just this is the game they play. You lie. You issue a weak retraction and say, we know that you can't handle the lawsuit. So deal with it.
Starting point is 00:43:00 This is also like just an expose, as as usual of the ignorance that many of these mainstream outlets shows have of right wing politics in general. Like whenever I even when I read academic articles about like the alt right or something, they're all so unbelievably incorrect. Like anyone who calls Charlie Kirk like far right or alt right. It's like you you literally know nothing about the dynamics of the right. The right know everything about the dynamics of the left. They understand them inward and outward, all the different factions and groups. But it's like a complete blind spot. The right are just like Nazis, all of them.
Starting point is 00:43:35 And it's just foolish. Did you see Crowder put out a video where he's talking to some college students and one guy calls him alt-right? He's like, what? He's like, what does that mean? And then everyone, like there's a black dude there and he's like, Crowder's not alt-right. He's like, I watch Crowder all the time. What are you talking about? And the guy says, alt-right is like you and Ben Shapiro. And he's like, Ben Shapiro is Jewish. They don't know what it means. They don't, they're,
Starting point is 00:43:56 they're mindless zombies. And this is the problem. They get lied to by The View and other news outlets. And then they walk around saying things that make literally no sense. But I'll tell you this. If you want to control people, keep them in a constant state of confusion where they don't know what's happening. As they say, the truth shall set you free. Didn't Whoopi just said that Jill Biden should be our Surgeon General? That was a while ago.
Starting point is 00:44:16 She's a phenomenal doctor. That was a while ago. Yeah, and totally ridiculous because she's like an education, a doctor in education. Not a medical doctor. Not really even a doctor at all anyway yeah it's like an educational honor air honor oh she got yeah an honorary one nice let me make sure i i'll make sure no i think it was real yeah i think that i think there is a real skincare doctors oh no it's educator. Educator, yeah. Yeah, it's not a PhD. It's something else. Let me see if I can find it. But that's going back to the left. It's EDD.
Starting point is 00:44:52 The thing that's curious to me about the left, there's no intellectual curiosity. Oh, yes, there is. EDD. Doctor of Education. Okay, so it comes from psychoactors and the kids. EDD. That's what she has. I think it's more than that.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Educationist doctor. So you're saying that people on the left in this cult or whatever this is, this weird media cult. There's no intellectual curiosity. They don't really want to understand because from the outset, they're all wrong. So why should we have any curiosity in trying to understand where they're coming from. So, I mean, they literally have no curiosity about trying to examine any of our ideas or have a conversation because our conscience is wrong, our beliefs are wrong,
Starting point is 00:45:30 our actions are wrong. So we don't need to even engage with you on this at all. We do have an update here from Turning Point USA, though. They say tomorrow, join the protest. Thursday, July 28th, 7 a.m. outside GMA Studios in Times Square,
Starting point is 00:45:44 10 a.m. outside The View in times square 10 a.m outside the view studio 320 west 66th street uh i'll just say this if you are in times square can you get a photo of those billboards we have up we're really trying i'm just kidding yeah get one of me yeah i haven't seen a photo yet uh i just want to stress that point though while y'all are protesting gma and i think there's a billboard of me above their building. So this is the point I'm trying to make with those Times Square ads. We're coming for their cultural spaces. We are challenging them. We are winning.
Starting point is 00:46:12 And they are getting really, really angry. Remind me again. Is there an ad for Chicken City? Yes. There is. OK, good. We have two of them, actually. Two of them.
Starting point is 00:46:19 OK, I just want to make sure. 96-foot-tall billboards for Chicken City. But Chicken City gets some love. Yeah, well, I just want to— Yeah, they deserve it. Yeah deserve it yeah i want i'm fascinated by this whole concept great well so the the general idea with time square is that our ads are going to be right next to good morning america and when regular people look up they're going to see us on par equal to them and we're going to call them out as liars and we are going to be of same status and stature on equal footing when we do it is that something you could do like if you knew there was an ad beside you that was like for the viewer something could you get like a you know i'm with stupid
Starting point is 00:46:52 arrow or something like you can do that yes now that's so cool they they might reject it right but i think as long as i i think most of these companies that do ads just want money so when you know i put up a it's this this billboard we have in Times Square is so big, I don't know what to do with it. So they're going to take down the ad soon. The run is ending. And then they were like, we'll send it to you. And I'm like, it's 40 feet tall. Are you finishing that?
Starting point is 00:47:16 I wonder if we could get three ads in one. Okay, I'll give you a cup. 15 foot and all going like three different movies going at once. So the point was that we put that ad on top of the Good Morning America building. So we've got a 70 foot ad on the top of the Good Morning America building. So I wanted everybody to see us above them. And make that point. I think it's good branding, good marketing, good brand awareness and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:47:39 As they keep getting dragged, keep lying and failing and screwing up, we're going to be there to take those cultural spaces back. So hashtag sue the view. This is TP. Hashtag sue the view. Ned, are you not going to join me in using a paper cup? No. No, I am not. I will.
Starting point is 00:47:56 No. This guy thinks he's so much better than me. Yeah. No. Look at this dude. I'm just. Okay. I'm respecting.
Starting point is 00:48:02 High class. I see how it is. It's just respect. It's hydrophobic. Respect the pappy. It's just respect. It's hydrophobic. Respect the pappy. And there it goes. That's the last of it. That's it.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Cheers to the last of the pappy. Somebody has been... The last of the pap. Yeah, I've been... You've been after it. Happy pappy. Happy pappy. That stuff's costly.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Have they officially declared that they're suing The View, or is this just like, let's generate some press? I don't think they said that yet, but hashtag sue The View is the hashtag hashtag for the event i think uh i'm assuming drew hernandez is going to be down there i'm sure and so drew if you're out there uh i look forward to seeing all the footage and the coverage of what's going on with people protesting this should be this should be exciting um i'm glad to see that uh people on the right are organizing peaceful protests yeah and it's punching back yeah i think this is the one thing that i loved about trump is that he rejected the premise he wasn't going to take any he punched back and i'd like to see this
Starting point is 00:48:49 more across the movement where you come at us and we will come right back at you even stronger it's rapid too like when you're disciplining a dog if it pees on the ground you don't wait 20 minutes and then come back and yell because it doesn't know why you're yelling but if you do it right when it's doing it it knows not to do that. There needs to be accountability because so long as these as the left can burn down buildings without law enforcement intervening. And it's insane. I'll tell you this. I think I can just say, why hasn't any Republican filed a lawsuit to disqualify Joe Biden and Kamala Harris for running for office for waging insurrection against the United States by funding the bail for insurrectionists during the Summer of Love. All that happens is the Democrats come out and scream insurrection nonstop for months.
Starting point is 00:49:34 There's no insurrection. But if that's the game they want to play, they lost these lawsuits. Okay, well, Kamala Harris directly bailed out people who were riding in Minnesota. Okay, sewer. 14th Amendment, she waged insurrection against the United States. She provided material support to people who engaged in insurrection against this country. They don't do it. But this is part of the problem, like on a 30,000-foot level. On their side are religious zealots, right? Politics for them is their religion.
Starting point is 00:50:00 They are religious zealots. They are committed to it. By all means necessary, they will have political power. We're a bunch of careerists. I'm going to go to D go to dc i'm gonna have a nice career at a think tank or in congress and after 20 30 years be like hey that was a lot of fun no they're they're interested in fundamental change they will do everything and are committed to it and we're like i'm just here for a good career we have to completely unless we actually become more religious zealots on our side you're gonna see more of this Why aren't we doing that?
Starting point is 00:50:25 It's part of why I don't consider myself conservative because I do think we need literal, like, radical liberal change, but for good. Not like zealous change. It doesn't need to be like my way or the highway, but the system needs to be drastically altered. The Federal Reserve has annihilated our economy. We need to take back control of our financial system. Yeah, but I don't think we get back to normal unless we actually meet some of their religious solitary with our own. Again, I tell people we're not going to get back to normal until we beat the left.
Starting point is 00:50:53 The problem is... And unconditional surrender. There is no... I think we have to come to this. This is not your granddaddy's Democratic Party. This is an un-American left that has nothing to do with the founding ideals i'm not sure what we have common ground with them nothing well that's right so i mean how do you actually come to that point there is no common ground the only way you get to a common ground is to beat them into
Starting point is 00:51:14 submission i think god unconditional common ground on epstein you know both the left and the right were like hey what's up with that someone someone went to jail for a massive underage prostitution ring, but we don't know who. Who are they selling to? But the left and the right both agree that there's something bad going on there. Epstein didn't hate himself. Let me pull up this story here from – well, I have a tweet here for myself, but it's a 538 story. 538 says Democrats will hold the Senate, or at least they're more likely to. This is why I always said when polling looks good, it may mean a red wave, but three months is still an electoral eternity. Still, 530 could be dead
Starting point is 00:51:49 wrong. What they did was 40,000 simulations, and they took a random sampling, or it just has a sample of 100 outcomes, showing that Democrats win 52 in 100. I think, as per usual, Nate Silver and his cohorts are so insanely wrong. They've been wrong over and over again. They're probably wrong now. How could Democrats possibly win in a moment like this? Now, I do think it is within the realm of possibility they win. I just think the fact that it's leaning in favor of Democrats makes no sense when we've seen in Florida, for instance, more Republicans registered to vote than Democrats.
Starting point is 00:52:23 I think Florida is not a battleground state anymore. Right. In Texas, the Rio Grande Valley, Republican. When you see safe blue districts in 2020 flip, I don't know how they think this could possibly happen. Other than the one point is there are more Republican seats up for reelection than Democrat seats. I remind people of last year in Virginia, a state that Biden won by 10 points. Glenn Young can essentially wins by two, 12 points swing in a year. That will be a year. We'll have the midterms a year after that. The trajectory has not changed for Joe Biden. It's
Starting point is 00:52:54 gotten worse for Democrats as well. I tend to think anything that's 12, 13, 14, 15 points is actually in play for Republicans. I think it's even to the point where anything that Joe Biden won by 20 points or less in 2020 is actually competitive. Have you. I think it's even to the point where anything that Joe Biden won by 20 points or less in 2020 is actually competitive. Have you looked at Gallup's data on this? When they talk about first term congressional losses, typically the Democrats have an advantage and still lose rather. Well, the other thing is, I mean, it's hard to be.
Starting point is 00:53:20 It has happened very rarely that historical trends are beaten. On average, in the first midterm that a party holds the White House since World War II, they've lost 28 House seats and four Senate seats. They will have to absolutely defy historical trends, 80-plus year – about 80-year historical trends. And defy the economy. Right. Gas prices, inflation. The other thing I'll remind people, too, Obama's Reuters approval rating was 44.7% October of 2010. We all know what happened in November of 2010. 63 House seats.
Starting point is 00:53:53 I think it was seven Senate seats, 680 state legislative seats. I think Joe Biden's average on RealClearPolitics was 37-something or 38. Joe Biden's aggregate approval rating recently dropped lower than Trump's worst possible aggregate rating. So Biden is actually has a lower approval rating at its worst point than Trump ever did. So go. I mean, Obama's party got clobbered in the 2010 midterms, and he's running about six,
Starting point is 00:54:19 seven points ahead of where Biden is right now. I mean, there's just a lot of different dynamics that are all falling into place. I have a hard time believing that Republicans aren't going to pick up 35, 40 seats in the House. I tend to think they'll probably be 53, 47 Republican majority in the Senate. I think you guys are underestimating how much people really want Ukraine
Starting point is 00:54:38 to have $40 billion for Vogue photo shoots. Aren't we up to $53 billion or something? I can't remember. That's a good point. I think they really liked those Vogue photo shoots, right, guys? They were like, you know what? That was my tax dollars. Hard at work.
Starting point is 00:54:51 I just think at a certain point, the corporate propaganda machine cannot overcome gas. MSNBC can scream all day and night, and there may be some guy sitting in his lounge chair being like, wow, Trump's so awful. Then he gets up to go to work work and he goes to the gas station, stops and looks at that number and just starts crying. The Monmouth poll recently had the four top issues that were most important to voters. It was all economic. Gas, inflation, groceries.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Do you know where abortion falls on Gallup's polling of 1%? Yeah. 1% of people thinking it's the most important issue. Have you seen what Rasmussen's been doing, which I think is really interesting? The top eight issues for voters, the top eight issues, I won't call them mainstream media, corporate propagandists. There's no correlation at all between the top eight issues at all. Not even close.
Starting point is 00:55:35 I mean, for the corporate propagandists, it's climate change. It's January 6th. It's all this other stuff. For the actual voters, it's economy, inflation, gas, all of these things. Real people issues. Yeah, real people issues. And I think it's the – I tell people the closer you get to an election, the trajectories harden. And we're pretty much into August.
Starting point is 00:55:53 We're just, what, 13 weeks out from the midterms. These trajectories, unless something absolutely apocalyptic happens, these trends of Biden's going to have worse approval, inflation's not changing, all of these things, and you're going to come in November 8th and go, I am absolutely getting clobbered in the economy. And these guys want to tell me that somehow climate change, January 6th, I should have abortion on demand all the way up to the point of birth. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:56:21 You're not addressing my day-to-day issues here. Get out. There are some things that the political gaslighting can't seem to overcome and that money stuff is one of them i remember in canada when trudeau started bringing in the oh we're gonna freeze people's bank accounts for supporting the truckers they immediately reversed all rhetoric on that as soon as canadians started going straight to their bank and withdrawing tons of money out into cash because they're freaking out, the bank started shutting down ATM machines. They started preventing withdrawals. And they were like, holy, all right, all right, backpedal, backpedal, backpedal.
Starting point is 00:56:52 This isn't good. So I think, yeah, when voters start seeing, oh, my gosh, I'm not going to be able to pay for my life, then it's going to hurt the politicians. And then hopefully there'll be some damn change because we need it. Yeah, I was thinking we could default on the interest to the Federal Reserve and then say, we'll pay you back, Federal Reserve. We're going to return our Federal Reserve notes and then give people a U.S. bank cryptocurrency in exchange, and everyone will lose 20% of the money they turn in as some sort of currency recall. Why would someone lose 20%? Either that or just keep your U.S. dollars and they'll be worth nothing. So it's up to you.
Starting point is 00:57:28 You can turn them in and get 80% back. Why get 80% back? Because that'll give a diminishing return to the very wealthy. So the poorer you are, the less you lose. So it'll kind of somewhat balance out the return. So this is the percentage loss is a percentage loss. But if you have a million, 20% is $200,000. If you have 1,000, 20% is $200,000. If you have $1,000, 20% is $200,000.
Starting point is 00:57:45 And that's relatively meaningless to a rich person, and it's the end of the world for a poor person. If you've got $100— Then you could do a J-curve as well. You could have a scaling— That's why we do a progressive tax. If you've got $100 and someone says, we're taking $20 of those dollars away from you, you're like, that's my dinner on Friday. If you've got $1 million and take $200,000, you're like, I've still got $800,000. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Yeah, I'm open to a scaling return diminishment. But we need some sort of – I don't know. A massive reset to actually get out. Yeah. Fed Reserve, whatever they're doing. What was it? 3.75 rate hike today? The fourth time this year.
Starting point is 00:58:17 0.75, right? 0.75. Yeah, 0.75. That's not even close to addressing what's happening. I saw someone tweet out that it's probably going to have to be like a 20-point hike or something. Yeah, no, no. To actually stop it. I mean, that's what they did in the 80s, didn't they?
Starting point is 00:58:29 Yeah, I think it was 18, something like that with Carter. Yeah, I mean, you have to go massive, drastic action. I guess what you're talking about is a massive reset. Say, hey, we have to do something very dramatic at this point to stop it. Well, I tell you, man, people need to learn how to tend to their own chickens, get space to do so, grow some vegetables, because... Learn how to process deer.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Like if we... Yeah, yeah, because the time may come. You know, look, we've been living in a golden age. We have. My lifetime, I was thinking about this,
Starting point is 00:58:58 where it's like, I need to find a job. I'll go find a job. You find a job, then you get paid $10 an hour or something. You're living in the city. Maybe it's $12,
Starting point is 00:59:07 and then you're paying your rent, and there's no conflict. There's no, there's, there's no fighting other than, you know, crime here and there. That stuff exists. And then I'm just like, man, every other generation throughout history, people would just randomly die. Like life was dangerous. You'd go out and you'd be like, gotta go get the water. And then you'd fall in the river. You'd stub your toe and then be like, uh-oh, it's infected. Now I'm going to die. That's how – but now we have all these modern luxuries. We've secured our – we had secured borders to a certain degree. And so we – our generation grew up with little to no conflict.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Now this is what you get from it. Good times make weak men. Weak men make bad times. And so giving control of the economy to Rockefeller and J.P. Morgan in 1913, basically people just got – their weakness, their deferment of their responsibility of monetary control was the weakness that's brought us to this stage. I don't know, man. It's a lot of things.
Starting point is 01:00:02 It's a lot of things. I think we've got cultural decay is a huge component of it i think but but but i was thinking about this recently we're a self governing republic but our founders didn't mean that we govern ourselves it's we govern ourselves and i think we've lost that concept of how does the individual govern himself or herself we've completely lost that concept. It starts with family. I think this is something I've had to really swallow the red pill on lately.
Starting point is 01:00:31 I was raised in a really good family with really good community. And when people spoke to me, they told me the truth. My parents told me the truth. They weren't lying. They weren't doing underhanded things. And that's how I learned to interact with other people. And then I go out into the wider world, and I have no concept of people are going to lie to me. People are going to do messedhanded things. And that's how I learned to interact with other people. And then I go out into the wider world and I have no concept of people are going to lie to me. People are going to do messed up things. People are going to try to set me up for failure. And so I'm interacting
Starting point is 01:00:51 in the world in this way that I learned at home and it's absolutely screwing me over. And the only way to survive in the wider, larger world is for me to become like everyone else and learn how to lie, learn how to be underhanded or learn how to spot it. And you don't really have a choice. So when people come up in broken homes and they see their parents lying to lie, learn how to be underhanded, or learn how to spot it, and you don't really have a choice. So when people come up in broken homes and they see their parents lying to them, they see them lying to each other, they see them just doing awful behavior, they learn that's the way to survive in the world. And that's what our world has become. It's the product of a lot of broken homes and people learning that lying is the only
Starting point is 01:01:18 way to get by. But broken homes, I think to your point, is not just about poor homes. It's about parents who are just dejected and removed from their kids or letting their kids do whatever they want. There's no discipline, no strategy, no planning. No expectations. Participation trophies. Where's the parent to be like,
Starting point is 01:01:35 you lost, son, because you weren't good enough. Train harder and you can be better. Instead, it's like, I want my kid to have a trophy too. It's not fair. And then the kid cries, gets a free trophy, and then thinks, I want my kid to have a trophy too. It's not fair. And then the kid cries, gets a free trophy and then thinks, I didn't have to do anything to get this. Yeah. Winning is not the trophy. Winning is the work. Winning is doing the work to win. Being able to win is the real victory. The process. I mean, the way I see it is, you know, people often say when they come hang out here,
Starting point is 01:02:00 they're like, wow, you know, look at this thing that you've built. And I'm like, I don't know, I wake up every day and I just add one more thing to what I'm doing. Sure. If you came and looked at this facility and now you'd be like, how did all this happen? And I'm like, this room didn't used to be here. That room didn't used to be there. That guitar didn't used to be there. It's like, we walk up one day and we're like, oh yeah, we'll put a, Ian puts a rock on the table. Now Ian's got like 50 rocks on the table. They're everywhere. And it's just like one step at a time, you slowly get to that point and you have to treat life. In my opinion, that's how you treat it.
Starting point is 01:02:26 The ends don't justify the means because you never meet the end. If every day you live your best day, you like, I'll tell you this. People are like, I want to lose weight. I did not lose weight recently trying to lose weight. I just decided to eat better today. So one day I was like, I didn't need any sugar or grains. I'm just not going to. Then the next day I was like, well,'t eat any sugar or grains. I'm just not going to. Then the next day I was like, well, I shouldn't start now. I had a great day yesterday. I should
Starting point is 01:02:49 just eat healthy today. And then sure enough, I lose a bunch of weight. A problem with politics is like the people treat the victory as getting the most votes so that they get the office and they get the scepter. But like that makes people do underhanded things to get the scepter. And that's not real victory for us we need people to be their best and then whichever one of them is chosen even the one that isn't chosen still wins because they did their best but like you're saying that doesn't seem to be how reality works because the strong take or whatever is going on there's not enough to go around yeah i kind of view it as like life hacking if you you're playing by all the rules, you're just going to kind of stay in this, you know,
Starting point is 01:03:26 minimum wage, kind of average salary, probably under 100K. And then there's people that will like morality hack and they'll get to a next level. You can lie to people. You can cheat people. You can get to all these higher positions when you can like hack the system of morality. And that's how you get these like elites like Epstein that are like, oh, we're just going to literally sell children. We're going to sell other humans.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Dude, we're going to make a ton of money. We're going to have tons of blackmail on these politicians. We're going to be able to control the world because we've morality hacked. We're not bound by any freaking rules. We can do whatever we want to anyone on this planet. I want to talk about cultural decay. And we have this story here from the Daily Mail. Women hikers throw the kitchen sink at gender stereotypes as they climb Scaffold Pike with washing stations attached to their backs in fight for equality.
Starting point is 01:04:13 Wow. Congratulations to Emma Woodhull, April Wilson, and Zena Clark for carrying kitchen sinks on top of a mountain. Okay. I just, I have so much to say about this. For one, I hope everybody's laughing a lot right now looking at this image of women with sinks strapped to their backs. I honestly think this reinforces the gender stereotype. It's like you went hiking, but instead of just hiking, you have brought a sink with you.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Reinforcing that you are to be around it that's a terrible idea i i really respect it you know it's been difficult for me to figure out how to do shows like this when i have to stay in my kitchen as you know i also under the table have a kitchen sink oh right did you finish the dishes yet so this is like a really working on it but so so here's your feet here's what i see here there's there, there's, there's a couple of big things in this story. One, people are insane,
Starting point is 01:05:08 right? No, and I mean like, I mean in kind of a colloquial sense, like there's no logic behind this. It's a stunt. They're trying to get attention. They got it.
Starting point is 01:05:17 The media wrote about it. Hey, that's a good workout too. Yeah, that's a good workout. It's a good workout. It's like a farmer's walk up a mountain. That's true.
Starting point is 01:05:23 That's true. Well, that's a fair, that's, that's a good, that's a positive. Right. My point is farmer's walk up a mountain. That's true. That's true. Well, that's a fair. That's a good. That's a positive. Right. My point is, though, why would someone do something so absurd?
Starting point is 01:05:29 Clicks. Instagram likes. They're peacocking. They're trying to flutter their feathers back. Notice me. They're doing nothing to actually target patriarchy or whatever they think is going on. They're making no cultural change, no political change. This is the perfect example, in my opinion, of no cultural change, no political change.
Starting point is 01:05:45 This is the perfect example, in my opinion, of the narcissistic vapid youth. I shouldn't say youth. I mean, these people are 40. They're 40? Yeah, this generation that doesn't understand the problem, doesn't have a solution, but stands on top of a pedestal holding a kitchen sink
Starting point is 01:06:02 so that people notice them and they can claim they're doing something. This exemplifies all of it. Listen, you don't know what it's like to be so attention-starved. They're dying here. They're going to be hospitalized in two weeks if they don't get more clicks. What is the purpose of their movement here? What were they doing?
Starting point is 01:06:18 Protesting patriarchy? Is that the vague? Yes. I think. Gender stereotypes. Protesting gender stereotypes by reinforcing them with a kitchen sink. We are worth more than this? I feel like they should have carried porcelain sinks. Yeah. It's pretty light.
Starting point is 01:06:32 It's been 52 years, right, since the start of, I guess, the gender equality stuff, 70, was around the time we started seeing more women enter the workforce. 52 years. But no matter how much they win, and they are winning, they're more likely to go to college, less likely to be homeless. Millennial women and younger make more money than millennial men. They're still acting like they're the oppressed victims. Well, to an extent, I do think people hate women now more than ever,
Starting point is 01:07:00 but it's their fault. I would say, yeah. You know, when I was growing up when we would like banter back and forth like even when i played a bit of video games when i grew up the jokes were always like go make me a sandwich or something now they're like go die in a hole you like slur like people i think the gender dynamics have become so just escalated because there's so much tension and hatred because we've been so pitched against each other where it's like oh i didn't get that job because a woman just got that position because
Starting point is 01:07:29 she was a woman she got to become the fighter pilot in the military she got the professor position she got the scholarship whatever it is and now instead of just seeing women as humans because feminism was like okay we're equal now men men see them as this force that's trying to dominate them and it's become really sinister. It's quite sad. It's quite sad to see us pitched against each other so much. I suspect that feminism is a lot like,
Starting point is 01:07:54 so I don't really care for unions anymore because they've served their purpose and now they're done. I think that feminism is exactly the same. They accomplished what they set out to and we had Richie McGinnis' mom on the show and she was talking about the stuff that the legitimate struggles that they actually
Starting point is 01:08:08 had to get women to have equal rights to men and for the ability to work. That's great. That's fine. We have all that now. We're done. We don't need feminists anymore. I really don't think we do. And we're doing stuff like strapping sinks to our backs. Lightweight sinks, for the record. So it's not like they're doing any kind of military drill.
Starting point is 01:08:23 They're lightweight? Yeah, well they're like porcelain. Yeah, they're metal. Like aluminum. I've carried sinks like that record so it's not like they're doing any kind of military drill they're lightweight yeah well they're like they're like porcelain yeah they're metal like aluminum i've carried things like that before so they're like aluminum yeah and it's it's not a big deal disappointing actually it's just they didn't commit to it exactly really didn't yeah probably smacks the back of their legs while they're walking yeah no feminism completely unnecessary disappointed they wore shoes i do believe we're intellectual equals, men and women, which is important to maintain. What does that mean? That we're both capable of doing math problems.
Starting point is 01:08:52 No man or woman coming out of the womb is going to be better or worse because of their gender and intellectual capacity. Men on average are going to be better at things like maths, but I do think that it's obviously there are women that can meet and rise to that level. And I also think it's really taken for granted different types of intelligence, like EQ, emotional intelligence.
Starting point is 01:09:09 I do think women tend to have higher emotional intelligence than men. What does that mean, though? Like ability to read people, process emotions in social situations. And these things are studied quite extensively. So it's important to see averages and differences, but then judge people as individuals. Yeah, Ian, there's something called the greater male variability hypothesis, studied quite extensively. So it's important to see averages and differences, but then judge people as individuals. Yeah, Ian, there's something called the greater male variability hypothesis,
Starting point is 01:09:28 which shows that males are more likely to be extremely stupid, but more likely to be extremely smart. So when you look at the highest and lowest end of the bell curve for male talent, be it math, be it basketball, so here's the issue when it comes to the Fortune 500s. Of the however many companies that exist in the world,
Starting point is 01:09:50 500 get that top slot, the Fortune 500, the biggest, the best. So when you have 100 men and 100 women, and on the female bell curve, 5% of women are really dumb, 10% are below average average and then you've got uh 70 average then 15 slightly above average and five percent my math is way but i know what you mean so like 10 10 20 30 right 70 in the middle yeah so the issue for men is that you're
Starting point is 01:10:20 going to have 50 in the middle way more dumb, but way more smart people. So if you have out of 100 guys, 10 in the highest end of the bell curve, and then out of the women, five in the highest end of the bell curve, and even then the highest high point is male, now do a top 10 ranking in ability to run a business. And guess what's going to happen? You're going to have nine dudes and one chick. Or not even that. There are 10 guys and all have been competing against them. All the women may lose. That's not anomalous.
Starting point is 01:10:50 You only got 15 people competing. In all likelihood, the top eight slots will be men and then two will be women. And people say, how does that make sense? There's 50 men, you know, 50, 100 men and 100 women should be equal, shouldn't it? No. Because you will also have substantially more really, really dumb men. This is why I think so many women think guys are dumb, because there's a whole lot of really dumb guys relative to women.
Starting point is 01:11:13 Equals not is a very vague term in that it doesn't mean the same. It doesn't mean we're the same. And I think in the past, the extremes have dictated the generalizations like, okay, eight out of 10 CEOs are men. Therefore, men make better CEOs. But that's not across the board. I think you need to make space for the women who are good at that because there are women that are not going to be the norm. They're not going to want to be mothers. They're going to want to pursue careers. They're going to find that really,
Starting point is 01:11:38 really fulfilling and you need to make space for that. And as long as there's space for that, you're fine. What we're doing now, unfortunately, though, is we're trying to force women into a larger space than they even need. Well, I would put it this way. Luxuries eventually become necessities. So cell phones, for instance, when cell phones first came out, it was a novelty seeing the guy with that really big phone. And it's like, if I'm in this one block radius, I can call my work. Then you got car phones. And all of a sudden now, it's a luxury. You had the opportunity to make a call from your vehicle. Most people still operated under, you call me when I'm at the office or at home. When cell phones became ubiquitous, all of a sudden now you got two workers, one with a cell phone, one without. Who's getting hired? Oh, do it with a cell phone, hands down. I can call you at
Starting point is 01:12:23 any time. I can get answers to questions. Hire the person it the cell phone hands down i can call you at any time i can i can get answers to questions hire the person with a cell phone that luxury became a necessity and now you're not going to get hired if you don't have one women entering the workforce it started out as women who want to work can work no one saying they shouldn't you know we're changing things and then once women started entering the workforce you now had dual income households competing against single income households. And so all of a sudden you have a business that says, listen, we've got a dual income household. They can take the job for 30,000 a year, you know, because the husband and wife are both
Starting point is 01:12:56 working. Sorry, I know you have a family, but you need too much money. I'm going to hire the woman. Now you've got double the workforce overnight without a doubling of the work supply. And then you see suppression of wages, you see collapse. And eventually then you come to a point where women have to work. It started out as they can if they want to, and now it's, well, you better, otherwise you're broke because no one can afford it. Yeah. I was thinking about what you said about emotional quotient, EQ and IQ being different. Like I'll have a conversation with my, when my girlfriend's involved in conversations,
Starting point is 01:13:27 like sometimes Tim and I'll get into it and it'll be like, it'll get heightened and it'll get fast and loud. And she's like, I don't want to be around the tone. And I'm like, what? I'm not even thinking about the tone. I'm thinking about what we're saying. So to the man, to our brains, it's like the information is, is more important. But to her, it's like, it's the, the feeling of the situation is altering the way you're producing the
Starting point is 01:13:46 information. And this is the big myth that conservatives often struggle with. We do the facts don't care about your feelings. Feelings are more important than facts. Feelings are way more important. Feelings don't care about your facts. Yeah, absolutely. And we need to take that into account. What makes people motivated to do anything is how
Starting point is 01:14:02 they feel. Anything political. The only reason they care about the facts is because I love my family and I want to protect my family. So I'm going to go look into the facts to see what the best ways are to do that. I mean, let's be real. If your kid, if your child did something illegal, I think most people would be like, I have to protect my son at all costs. Like they know it's wrong.
Starting point is 01:14:23 They know it's against the law. They're like, don't care. My kid's not going to jail. But that's one of the problems with conservatives. We go to the head first, not the heart. Yes. Yeah. Like they will, they know it's wrong. They know it's against the law. And they're like, don't care. My kid's not going to jail. But that's one of the problems with conservatives. We go to the head first, not the heart. Yes.
Starting point is 01:14:29 Yeah. Got to figure that out. I think it's fascinating. Ben Shapiro's tweet, while I respect it, you know, facts don't care about your feelings. Got like a hundred thousand retweets.
Starting point is 01:14:35 It goes viral like crazy. When I saw that, I was just like, yeah, but feelings don't care about your facts. Right. And I think that's substantially more important to the conversation.
Starting point is 01:14:42 I'll be, it's wrong. But the issue is, if you go to someone tell them, like, I don't know, Michael Brown didn't have his hands up. Obama's DOJ came out and said that was not true. They'll just get angry because your facts are meaningless to how they feel about it. But this is one of the actual principles of the less organizing appeal to the heart first to put the hands and feet in motion. Yeah, they figured it out. Like, again, appeal to the heart first to put the hands and feet in motion yeah they figured it out like again appeal to the heart get people into motion sometimes the facts line up sometimes they don't but it doesn't matter you've got people motivated in the right
Starting point is 01:15:13 direction do what you want them to do i keep thinking about god like the emotions attached to really believing in that that and like that that's similar to what people in a cult will do like and i'm talking about people that are like in the media cult the whatever you want called on the left or whatever like it's so emotionally driven because they truly believe in it and i know that emotion is there in people on all sides the the issue is they they they may not believe in it and their brain doesn't let them ever even consider it they feel physical pain it's like what brandon strock told us that when he was first breaking out of the left and he saw the video of Trump doing the arm thing, it was physically painful to be proven wrong. So there are a lot of people, they don't actually
Starting point is 01:15:53 believe it. When you present them with facts and hand them the sheet showing it, they get really angry because they know deep down their brain is telling them this is true, but we cannot accept it. We cannot. a lot of them have personal trauma connected to their politics as most people do you know you look with feminists and this is something i wish i acknowledged more when i was younger and kind of challenging the feminist movement is they they had bad relationships with their father a horrible abusive relationship or whatever and they're projecting that personal experience onto the broader political discourse because it's easier to deal with something that's far away from you than to really like look inward at your own
Starting point is 01:16:28 personal pain. So they'll try to fight it through these larger political battles. It's the same with Trump. Trump is just the representation of their Christian parents that were distant and at work all the time and not talking to them and they hate it and they're rejecting and rebelling against it. And a lot of people had those personal experiences with their family where they grew up in a, conservative household that they're fighting back against. They had a bad experience with a man or whatever it might be. And that's their emotional place they're in. And I think we do as much as they do really stupid stuff and really wreck our society. We do need to see the left as humans that are just very confused in a lot of ways. And we do need to reach out to
Starting point is 01:17:02 them on an emotional level and try to pull them back from that edge i know uh we don't like humanizing the left but we have to i don't disagree i just don't know where you find the middle ground with them no i don't think it's in you no you need to feel it if you cry openly out of joy out of belief not out of sadness or pain but like out of truly believing it people resonate the middle ground is not in arguments and political discussions because feelings don't care about facts the middle ground is in we uh i brought this up several days now but we're launching shows at timcast.com i think right now it's like 80 of the content we produce is not political the overwhelming majority of it is not political at all because i don't want to go to somebody who is only peripherally involved in politics
Starting point is 01:17:43 and very angry and start yelling politics at them. I want them to be like, hey, man, I don't know about all that stuff. Why don't you come hang out and we'll tell a ghost story. We'll sit around the campfire and we'll have marshmallows. That is so much more attractive to many people. Now, politics has become pop culture. The view talking about turning point USA. There are people who are turning on TV for entertainment and then being bludgeoned over the head with ideology. My attitude is this twofold. One, let's just hang out, have a good time, have pizza, not talk about that stuff. Put these people in an environment where they're away from that and something interesting happens. When they're dedicating their time to watching sitcoms
Starting point is 01:18:17 or like, you know, we have Tales from the Inverted World and we're launching a bunch of other shows. They're not in a world of pain anymore. Now they're going to look back and they're going to see people screaming, but Trump, but Trump. I'm going to go, that made me feel miserable. Can I just listen to the ghost stories? Because right now I'm just interested. We got to give them a space that is just not overly political.
Starting point is 01:18:39 But the other thing is, when we create cool, fun stuff and we're doing backflips into phone pits, then we're all over here cheering and high-fiving each other and being like, come on, come party and hang out. We're doing backflips. Sounds fun. It's a bouncy castle. Come hang out. We don't want to talk about that painful stuff. It's an escape.
Starting point is 01:18:55 I think that's what we got to do to help people break away from the cult. Yeah. So many conservatives have just portrayed themselves as we sit and we read books all day and pray all day. You know, praying's good you should do it but you were humans too we're scared to show that but this is the thing about like turning point usa is like i think they do great work but they're all suits you know like cpac tp usa these big events and i'm like grow your hair out no look man you're not you're you're nervous there's a certain kind of person that, you know,
Starting point is 01:19:26 idealizes facts don't care about your feelings. It's correct. You know, facts matter more than how you feel about them, in my opinion. But politically, feelings matter more to the average person. So my attitude is just like, where is the space for people who are sick and tired of the woke cult who just want to watch some guy do a backflip? Escapism.
Starting point is 01:19:46 Just relax. Escapism. Here's what happened. I'll tell you this. We're working on a video game. We showed you guys the video game earlier today. We're working on a video game out here. And it's because I'm like people want to play a video game and what happens?
Starting point is 01:19:59 All of a sudden it's wokeness. They make Battlefield. What was it called? Was it Battlefield? Where the woman had like purple hair hair and a prosthetic or something. And everyone's like, what? What is going on? Every movie's got to be some political message.
Starting point is 01:20:12 Every show's got to be political. As much as I'm a fan of the show The Boys, it's just, come on. Stop hitting me over the head with this stuff. Does every show have to be like this? Resident Evil. It's like, come on. I don't even think. Oh, what were you going to say?
Starting point is 01:20:24 I don't think it's escapism when people want to like i like off-roading i like going out shooting swimming every other day i don't think any of that's escapism i think that's how humans are supposed to live um life is lived in the in-between we're not supposed to be thinking about politics every second we're supposed to be actually spending time with friends family and it's okay for people who are political personalities to go out and show that side of themselves, to say, actually, this is what's important to me and this is how I want you to be living. That's why I care about politics,
Starting point is 01:20:51 so you don't have to worry about the government infringing on your ability to do these things and actually live your life with your families. So we have to care about politics, but it's not what we're supposed to be doing 24-7. Agreed. I think about the universe and consciousness. And sometimes people are like, oh, he's a psychedelic tripster.
Starting point is 01:21:08 Think, you know, wasting. Yeah, get out of here, hippie. But it's self-preservation and the preservation of our species. Because every 20,000 years, this planet gets hit by comets. Or however, 40,000 years, everything's reset. Everybody's wiped out. So we need to get off this planet if we want to keep having conversations about politics. And I'm a big advocate of communicating about politics, about social structure. But we have got to focus on science.
Starting point is 01:21:32 You create a space where, like, you know, TimCast has a news outlet as well, right? But we've been investing heavily in Tales from the Inverted World. And I will just tell everybody, for those that are interested in knowing, the click-through rates, the cost per click all that stuff has been ridiculous like so we're doing ads this is uh shane cashman he went down to georgia investigating lost confederate gold it is only political in that sense of the history but for the most part it's just his journey meeting witches ufos someone threatened to kill him because he's trying to find this gold it is just outside of the realm of modern political culture war stuff. And the click through rate is like double or triple what we see in other ads.
Starting point is 01:22:10 We've only recently started doing ad stuff. And I'm like, this is good news. Regular people. When you go on Facebook, you see them inundated with memes about politics, anger and hatred. And it's like, let's promote this and pull them out of that space and then allow that kind of hatred to evaporate for a little bit. But here's the best part. Timcast.com has a news section with true facts. So if they're doing nothing but watching MSNBC and getting wrapped into it, we pull them out and offer them a space to just relax and watch ghost stories or sitcoms or Chicken City.
Starting point is 01:22:39 And then if they end up seeing the news, the news is neutral, straightforward, and fact-driven. What do you do when you're not involved thinking about politics? What are your main focuses? Hunting. Oh, what kind of stuff? What's your hunting style like? Deer. I'll do everything.
Starting point is 01:22:54 Crossbow, muzzleloader. Oh, crossbow. We got deer out here like crazy. Every night when I go back down, there's a bunch of deer in my lawn. Brother-in-law and I, actually my son, we hunt. We'll do the knock them down in the woods, field dress him, bring him in. We process him in the barn. So when you get a deer, do you make a bunch of different kinds of meat?
Starting point is 01:23:14 Do you make jerky, salami? My brother-in-law, awesome. He literally will process almost everything on the deer. Give the ribs to the dogs. Do you eat the marrow? I don't. Do people, like, will take the deer marrow maybe and boil it? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:32 I don't. I literally take the backstrap. I take the inner tenderloins. I take the rumps. And I typically make those into either a stew or I'll do biltong or I'll do jerky. Biltong. What's biltong? How's deer tenderloin?
Starting point is 01:23:44 It's a South African form of jerky. It's awesome. It's really good. Deer tenderloin, is that similar in any way to like standard cow? I mean, the inner tenderloin is the best part of a deer. And I soak it in whiskey, garlic, salt, and pepper overnight. I beat it out. And then I fry it with some fresh eggs from our chickens.
Starting point is 01:24:04 That sounds amazing. And you do it right. It's superb. I had a friend who brought me to this dude's house once, and they did a full process. They had every kind of meat you could make from a deer. So it was like a big platter. We have done. My brother-in-law was like, we've got to do some sausage.
Starting point is 01:24:19 So we did. Half of it is sausage. Half is venison. And then we did jalapeno, and we did cheddar. Amazing. Sounds amazing. Oh, stuffed? You stuffed it? Yeah, yeah. We stuffed our is sausage. Half is venison. And then we did jalapeno. We did cheddar. Amazing. Sounds amazing. Oh, stuffed? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:28 We stuffed our own sausage. It comes through. The intestines. Yeah. I like your answer to his question. You're trying to find what's your non-political chill thing. You're like, oh, yeah, when I'm not destroying leftists, I'm killing. I'm shooting.
Starting point is 01:24:40 I'm killing things in the woods. Well, it's deer, though. What about turkeys? Turkeys are terrible. Yeah. Have you ever eaten any wild turkey? Nope. They're awful.
Starting point is 01:24:50 Yeah. Not wild. What's bad about it? Well, they're extremely lean meat. And I probably screwed up on how I prepared it. I've heard people that you just got to slow cook it like crazy to get it to where it's edible. What else do I do when I'm not shooting things or destroying lettuce? I'm actually big into horticulture.
Starting point is 01:25:11 I've got my orchards. Orchards? What are you growing? Peaches, apples, cherries. Got a raised bed with blueberries. What percentage of your diet would you say comes from your own production? Not enough. I mean, I want to get to the point where, I don't know, during deer season, no, not half.
Starting point is 01:25:32 We've got the eggs. We've got some venison. The only problem is there's not many people in the household that love venison, so it's like – Yeah, well, you eat what you eat. You know what I mean? We brought you deer back. Time to eat it. Yeah, we do.
Starting point is 01:25:42 I mean, part of the other raised bed is like a jalapeno, tomato, poblano peppers. We're doing salsa garden. You've got to stop describing food. I'm about to go off. No, it's amazing. So, no, I mean, we do have fun. I do other things outside of politics, and it's actually – I mean, it does actually – like, you get away from it, and you become a full – I think –
Starting point is 01:26:04 You fully realize all aspects of your humanness i think people should uh people listening especially now should start figuring out how to um create a larger percentage of their own uh i totally agree yeah no i this is one of the things i'm trying to find we've got 30 some acres 20 of its 21 of its forest and we're trying to figure out how can i make the other 10 acres or so productive? And what can I do with those? We've got too many eggs here because we now have like 30 chickens and the new ones are starting to lay.
Starting point is 01:26:32 My wife is a chicken lady. We are going to have like 25 eggs per day. What do you do with them when you have so many? We're giving them to people. Oh, yeah. We have the same situation. We've had a raccoon fox situation, so we don't have that many eggs these days. We had a raccoon problem, but that was taken care of.
Starting point is 01:26:48 What's more dangerous, the fox or the raccoon? So here's how it works. The raccoons just pick them off one by one, usually. They just murder them, right? They don't even eat them. They suck the blood out of them. They're literally vampires. The foxes will come in, and it's a massacre in like 10 minutes.
Starting point is 01:27:04 Oh, because they're having fun. They're just killing them. Killing, killing, killing, and they'll drag a couple off, eat them. But there's just – I went down one time. It was probably, I don't know, 3 or 3.30 in the afternoon. Everybody was fine. Had to go back up to the house. The barn's maybe, I don't know, 100 yards below the house.
Starting point is 01:27:19 Went up back to the house, did some stuff, came back. I'm not kidding. 30, 40 minutes later, like 15 of them were dead wow foxes just come and nail them all i don't think i'm gonna kill that one have you ever shot the foxes that come i have yeah the this one of them got away but partly because the neighbors have horses and it was not a clear shot so i held back which is the right thing to do but the other one i shot and then uh there's been some raccoons shooting your neighbor's horse yeah no that's that would be whole fun yeah raccoons you know raccoons are nasty they are nasty two barrels of a 12 gauge takes care of them we got it we got a raccoon
Starting point is 01:27:51 problem we set up a trap we uh we took care of one of them yeah the the so i mean we have so this is what's what's worrying is that we have uh we have we have dogs and they're still coming around which they shouldn't be because our our open area now of the chickens is not particularly large. But I saw a fox. So we have a cat. His name is Bucko. And I'm recording one day. This is a couple months ago.
Starting point is 01:28:13 And he's sitting in the middle in the field. And from my studio, I can see the whole backyard. I can see the chickens, like really wide view and i see him sitting to the middle of the field in a loaf like cats do when a very gaunt looking fox starts creeping out of the brush and slowly moving towards him and my cat being dumb just stood there staring and then i was like i'm in the middle of recording a segment 20 like 15 minutes in like so that's nearly done for my morning segment and i had no i stopped i got up and i ran outside and started yelling and the fox did not run and i had to you know jump over the fence or jump over the railing and like run down and the fox took off uh i'm worried the fox was starving that's why it was coming onto the property
Starting point is 01:28:54 fearless of the dog and going after my cat and my cat's too stupid to run away from it just sat down was gonna rip his face up no that's what i want to eat that cat right and then when the fox ran off cat just looks at me and then just looks back at the woods and just doesn't even blink. Do you have coyotes out here? I don't know. We have coyotes. Well, so there's been a crossbreed that's developed between wolves and coyotes. They're called coyote wolves.
Starting point is 01:29:18 We have them on our property. I haven't heard them recently. What are they like? They look like small wolves. Wow. They don't look – I mean, we had a ton wolves. I grew up in Kansas. We had a ton of coyotes, very obvious coyotes. These coyote wolves look like small wolves. Are they vicious like wolves? Yeah. I mean, they're pretty aggressive. I'll go through the forest. I
Starting point is 01:29:37 haven't seen anything recently, but you'll go through and it's literally like a pack of them hit a deer and there's parts everywhere. I've been thinking lately, are raccoons a kind of animal that we would be better off wiping out, like making extinct? Do they do any value to the system? Trash pandas? They're kind of cute. Have you guys ever seen that video of the guy's dog being attacked
Starting point is 01:29:56 by a raccoon and he's like above a stairwell and he grabs the raccoon and just like flips it around and throws it down the stairs and all you see are these little glowing eyes disappearing into the abyss. It's a great video. You've got to find that one. We're going to go to Super Chats.
Starting point is 01:30:10 Ladies and gentlemen, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. We are going to have a members-only uncensored show at TimCast.com coming up at about 11pm. So check that out. And let's grab some of your Super Chats.
Starting point is 01:30:28 All right. We got a whole bunch of Super Chats. Say audio, buzz, audio. Thank you. Audio. You're good now. All right. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:30:36 John R. says, The accounting firm that prepares my taxes wants me to sign a document stating that I'm not a Russian citizen, Russian national, nor do I currently reside in Russia. And if my status changes to let them know immediately. WTF? Yo, what? That's really weird.
Starting point is 01:30:51 Huh. Hmm. Hmm. J.A. says, can't believe you haven't mentioned Ripaverse Comics yet, Tim. We've mentioned it several times. We talked about it yesterday. PayPal froze Eric July's account or whatever, like a good portion of it. I wonder what the status of that is.
Starting point is 01:31:04 That's crazy. All right, let's see. Ian Hall says, Jeremy is a legend. I loved that ad placement. Shill for coffee brand coffee. So another free ad spot, Mr. Quartering. For people that didn't get the ad
Starting point is 01:31:21 at the beginning of the show, an ad played for Jeremy's coffee. It's specifically tailored to Tim too. He's like, hey guys, about to watch Tim cast. Buy my coffee. All right, have fun watching Tim. See you later. And then it goes to Tim.
Starting point is 01:31:31 I didn't know you could still do that. That's awesome. I knew that you used to be able to run ads specifically on one video. I didn't know you could still do it. But yeah, he's like, before you watch Tim's video, go buy my coffee. And then my attitude is like, thank you for the money, Jeremy. This show is sponsored by The Quartering, apparently, and Coffee Brand Coffee. Although the funny thing is Jeremy could just reach out and be like, hey, how much for an ad
Starting point is 01:31:52 spot, I guess. And I think it's cheaper, actually, when we do it direct. Because YouTube takes a huge cut, you know, but then he'd get the full viewership. How about that, Coffee Brand Coffee? You know what we're gonna open our own coffee business no probably not maybe a coffee house that serves coffee brand coffee all right let's grab some super chats what is this uh raymond g maga stanley jr says i'm angry tim so mad at capitalism the healthy white cis males. I'm so UT. Oh no, dang it. I just ished my pants. That's it. I'm joining Antifa. So that was a segment I did earlier. There was this Antifa woman who was right or arrested on suspicion of rioting and felony
Starting point is 01:32:35 assault. She had previously wrote about how she has long COVID and it caused her to crap her pants. And then I was like, look, I know a lot of people see that. They probably laugh when they hear that story. But my attitude is like, imagine you're like poor, you I know a lot of people see that. They probably laugh when they hear that story. But my attitude is like, imagine you're like poor. You know, a lot of people probably are. And then one day you're at work and poop just comes out of your butt. You can't control it. You're going to be really, really angry. But who can you be mad at?
Starting point is 01:32:56 So what happens is these people have this pent up rage from their lives they can't control. Then someone comes along and says, I know who's causing all your problems. It's Dave Chappelle. This is probably why these people go out and protest nonsensical things. And it's not just because this woman pooped her pants, but it's a really good example. Look at this. Everyone's making fun of her now. They're all laughing. Imagine what that person's feeling, knowing that this is your life now. You got to wear diapers. You're in the middle of work and you've got poop all over your butt. You have to work through that. Who do you get mad at? Whoever fed you that gum.
Starting point is 01:33:33 Right. No, it's yourself. You can only be mad at yourself. Well, it was long COVID. Are you mad at the virus? So what happens is – The Chinese. How could they do this to me?
Starting point is 01:33:41 Well, no. Someone comes along and says – EcoHealth Alliance. You should have universal health care. And the reason you don't is because of these bigots and transphobes in the far right. And then they say, okay, that's why I can be mad at somebody because I'm mad. And they give them a target to be mad at. That's what happens.
Starting point is 01:33:55 And I think the poop story makes it very, very apparent. Because without something so overt, you don't know about their trauma, their relationships with their fathers or whatever. All you see is some person. You're like, what are you mad about? It's like, well, maybe they're mad about something they have no one to be mad at. So this story exemplifies that in my opinion. Imagine. You'd be mad too.
Starting point is 01:34:17 Your point is profound, but the context of it just makes it impossible to listen. Well, the context is on purpose, right? Because it makes people, you know. Yeah, I searched poop their pants. I would advise everyone. I'm like 10. Why am I laughing? I didn't click on any links.
Starting point is 01:34:33 This is the real world. This is where we're at. This is where we are. Pooping in her pants. Waffles Sensei says, I had an epiphany last night. Ian, I believe in the graphene now. The process you speak of in separating the carbon out of the chemicals in the air. You're literally talking about mimicking the process of the trees and plants.
Starting point is 01:34:47 It's genius innovation. Hell yes. You know, we can pull the carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere and the methane and then put it on, deposit it on a palladium or probably other metals and then take the carbon out. So you essentially mine the air for carbon dioxide. So how are we doing that? Australian scientists have been doing it so we can start to mimic the process. I want to bring it to the political sphere and get the government involved so we can start funding research and development and start selling this stuff. Are you familiar with graphene?
Starting point is 01:35:15 No, I'm not really familiar. It sounds like trees on steroids. It's a single atomic layer of carbon. Yeah, it's this stuff. And a hexagonally latticed. And it's a wonder material. So maybe we'll see some more in the future. It's a 21st century building material like steel. It's conductive and capacitative
Starting point is 01:35:31 like batteries. Let's read some superchats. Jamie Nunyabiz says the J6 trials will help because of the absurdity of the content and how specific people like Ray Epps not getting any charges but also labeled as a victim. Agreed.
Starting point is 01:35:47 You see, they included me in it. Jamie Raskin put a video of me in it. Oh, he did? It was me reading a news article. Oh. And they edited it in such a way to make it seem like I was telling people to go to D.C. Yeah. Total fabrication.
Starting point is 01:36:03 And this is why I'm saying, like, I think the country is on the verge of imploding. When you've got sitting members of Congress smearing and defaming and just trying to destroy for no other reason than to destroy, I'm like, how long can this thing last? Now, I'm not saying people will die. Some people might in conflict. We've seen that already. What I'm saying is it's just going to get more tumultuous. Whatever that means, I don't know. Get some chickens and get out of the cities, I guess.
Starting point is 01:36:23 Yep. Yep. All right ss penguin says hello timcast crew i just wanted to say i love you all and if you ever want to add to chicken city may i humbly suggest ducks they're hilarious they are i was told they have to be raised together though can i bring you a canadian goose no no aren't they called canada goose sure you know what i'm talking about. Can you bring one and put it in the mix? I don't think that's legal because they're migratory birds.
Starting point is 01:36:53 The thing about ducks is there's domestic ducks on farms for duck eggs. Duck eggs are crazy. You have duck eggs? No, we had four. More protein? Yeah. Bigger? Fox hit them. Really hard.
Starting point is 01:37:00 All of them? All of them. Were they out in the open? Yeah. Bam. Gone. I think we got a couple eggs out of them? All of them. Were they out in the open? Yeah. Bam. Gone. I think we got a couple eggs out of them. All right.
Starting point is 01:37:08 Doug Ripley says, Great guests this week. All looking out for We the People. Zuby helps people think for themselves. Whitaker made meaningful moves as acting AG. Ned provides much-needed grassroots vision. And Lauren putting up fearless exposés. Her latest is her best yet.
Starting point is 01:37:23 Cheers. Thank you. There you go. It was worth all of that expensive. Nothing latest is her best yet. Cheers. Thank you. There you go. Nothing bad to say about Tim. He's the only one that didn't F with anyone. I don't know. People were saying that they were like, Lauren put out this video of like the truth. And then they were like, she actually
Starting point is 01:37:35 said some nice things about you. Yeah, you were like, there were a few really good people. But of the people that like got massive platforms, which you have, you've built up something big. I never saw you once. Screw anyone over. And we were hanging out really good people, but of the people that like got massive platforms, which you have, you've built up something big. I never saw you once screw anyone over. And we were hanging out, you know,
Starting point is 01:37:49 way back in the day, 2016 going to riots in France. You remember all that? Yeah. And you always just were a damn hard worker, not to simper anything. I'm sure, you know,
Starting point is 01:37:59 the most brutal thing ever is like, we do. So we, we try to do so well by everybody who works at TimCast and then the people who just knife us in the back. It's really disheartening. And I can certainly understand why Bill Gates is just like, there's too many people. And why people don't start companies. It's a lot. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:38:18 Getting money involved with relationships is a totally other dynamic. Dude, people are evil. You learn some – but I'm not kidding. Are you saying there's a fallen nature? So I'll tell you this. As the story goes, man, you hear these stories about people winning the lottery, and then all of a sudden their families get torn apart. It's crazy stuff.
Starting point is 01:38:38 But I tell you this. Running a successful business, you'll be surprised who in your life is truly a friend and who isn't when you come into success all of a sudden people you thought you knew your whole life are doing everything in their power to destroy you for no reason there are people that i've known since i was a teenager that immediately took to the internet and started trying to hit up every journalist people i was my some of my best friends and then i'm just like i'm hitting them up i'm like bro is that i do something and they're like f you and i'm like, bro, did I do something? And they're like, F you. And I'm like, what the?
Starting point is 01:39:05 There's no more disgusting emotion than jealousy in humans. Yeah. It's a really dark emotion. And then I learned that there are people that I didn't like all that much that are like, well, you know what, man? Good for you, dude. I get it. You deserve it.
Starting point is 01:39:16 And I'm like, what? That guy's being nice to me? Man, I tell you. You learn some lessons, man. So, Lauren, your documentary that he's talking about what was it it's called what the whole the whole truth it's a video just about my time in politics all my experiences it's three hours long i'm shocked people even watched it but it's approaching half a million views so it's uh yeah it was i saw a couple two hours on it so far i
Starting point is 01:39:39 was you watched two hours yeah i was doing something i didn't think people were capable of watching videos that long. It was a joy. I like to see into the history of your psychology, of your experience, because I've been watching you from afar until you came on the show. Yeah, I was an idiot. I came from a similar background, like kind of an insulated family life where their parents were really nice.
Starting point is 01:39:58 And I still have that, like, you know, optimist. Very naive view of the world. It's hard, but you can hold on to the optimism. You just have to get a lot smarter and realize you're not playing with people that are playing with the same set of rules you are. Set of values, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:13 It's brutal, man. It is brutal stuff. Especially when you learn about the business things, like restrictions, and you wonder why does businesses do things that suck, and then you're like, oh, they're legally required to. That's the crazy thing.
Starting point is 01:40:26 All right, let's read some more here. We got Cromules says, just became a member today and decided to watch the previous after show with Matt Whitaker. What the frick? P.S. That was very funny. Yeah, yeah, that member show last night was particularly spicy, and I was like, am I going to get in trouble? We won't repeat it but
Starting point is 01:40:45 maybe maybe we'll mention it on the next half no you can watch that one i don't know i'm just i'm just i'm really tired of so much of the of the bs and the lies and the manipulation from the media so uh you know we kind of just got a little spicy as it is what it is all right club rico tv says uh trump will be blamed and demonized for what is coming and he says some stuff that we can't read on youtube but he says this is the damn strategy trump and musk will be blamed but i you know i i hear what you're saying my friend i don't think that's a revelation though to be honest i think everyone expects trump to take the fall for everything if trump wins the media will just claim anything and everything bad is his fault they've even tried doing it with some
Starting point is 01:41:24 of the biden's decisions they deal with i mean they've done this is not just trump they've done this with bush they've done it throughout right however many republican presidents all their fault are saying they're getting prepared to do it to biden too that they're turning on him there's some new york times writer that just brett stevens said he should he should announce he's not running for re-election now that's it yep all right clef the misfit says tim the president and vp candidates not being able to be from the same state is not a relic it's part of the 12th amendment to the constitution also trump is a liability in every way desantis 2024 i hear you man on that i do i do the thing is like i like that trump said he's
Starting point is 01:41:58 going to fire everybody and so i'm kind of like trump desantisSantis, then DeSantis-DeSantis. Yeah, but knowing what Trump is discussing in his plans, I think day one would be he'll wage war on the administrative state. I think it has to happen. You've got to devolve it. You've got to fire. There's 800,000 non-essential federal employees. Take a whack at a couple hundred thousand over four years. I want to avoid what happened to the Ba'ath Party in Iraq
Starting point is 01:42:21 because they basically fired the entire Ba'ath Party, and then they became ISIS or the Taliban or something. There's roughly 2 million federal employees. There's 800,000 that have been deemed non-essential. You're not talking about firing all 2 million. You're talking about
Starting point is 01:42:38 the 800,000 non-essentials. Hundreds of thousands of them should be fired. And their roles removed from the federal roles. Let's read some more. We got Kenny says, add hydro and aquaponics to your grow. Back in rural Philippines, building my grow. Chicken, tilapia, vegetables, plus rice and mangoes on
Starting point is 01:42:53 five acres, more than we can eat. Basic mechanic skills, plus solar, starlink, plus catholic, equals win. You threw in the catholic thing there. I'm sure for a lot of people, there's discipline in that. But I like the aquaponics and hydroponics stuff too. That's really, really cool.
Starting point is 01:43:08 And then you can do – we've got a pond over at Freedomistan. We'll throw some fish in there and we're going to maintain it and get it cleaned up and everything. Can you eat frogs? You can if you're French. Frog legs. You have to be French. Why is it cultural appropriation? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:24 That's the rule. Toads, frogs? We got their legs for sure. There's a lot of muscle in their legs. You have to be French? Why is it cultural appropriation? Yeah, that's the rule. Toads, frogs? We got their legs for sure. There's a lot of muscle in their legs. I've not had a frog before. I've had escargot. Escargot is amazing. It is.
Starting point is 01:43:34 Yeah. Wrapped in bacon. Oh, man. In butter. With garlic oil and you dip it, you take it out. I love it. It's delicious. Just like seafood.
Starting point is 01:43:41 I've never done frog legs, though. Me neither. I don't really have a desire to do frog legs. No, I'm not interested. Yeah. All right. Siridan says, corporate tax is just a way to tax the poor. It doesn't hurt the corporation.
Starting point is 01:43:51 They just raise their prices. Yeah. Yeah. The idea, though, is to stop companies from jumping ship. But someone else made a good point. Let me see if we just had this one. I think I lost the super chat. Where is it?
Starting point is 01:44:06 Somebody mentioned something about taxes. Here we go. Waffle Sensei says, if you implemented a global corporate tax, in fact, it would not be global. It would be a tax amongst the allies. Then China would lower their tax and every corporation would flock there. Yeah. Yeah. Tavnazian says, Lauren, I watched your recent video and I respect your resolve having gone through all that. Very disappointed to learn these things about people I respected, particularly Milo.
Starting point is 01:44:31 Yeah, a lot of background information. You haven't watched it yet, Tim, I guess. But, you know, I talk about the white privilege grant being stolen, all that $100,000-some-odd dollars. Did he really steal it? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:43 It never went to anyone. So there was, like, lots of good working-class people's money that just went squandered by a lot really steal it? Yeah, yeah. It never went to anyone. So there was like lots of good working class people's money that just went squandered by a lot of people in this movement, unfortunately. Of course, I believe people have redemption and can change and everything, but there has to be some demonstrable display of that, right? Well, when people sign up at TimCast.com to be members and fund this business, I take out 96-foot-tall billboards of my rooster. Full disclosure.
Starting point is 01:45:07 That money is not wasted. That goes to important work. You know what the craziest thing was? When I tweeted that out, I got like a thousand retweets and people were like, okay, that's it. I'm subscribing. I was like, that was the one that did it for you? Like, we'll keep doing that.
Starting point is 01:45:17 Chicken city. So full disclosure. I mean, I mean this literally legitimately. I contacted our ad agency and said, I want to run a Times Square billboard that says Twitter is protecting pedophiles. And they were like, okay, just send it to us and we'll see if they approve it. And I was like, for real? And they were like, here's how much it costs. And I was like, all right. And that phrase was rejected. The billboard, the people, the landlord or whatever, they were like, no. And then I said, tell me why so we can craft the ad. And I'm thinking maybe I'll say Twitter is protecting groomers, something like
Starting point is 01:45:49 that. And they may approve that, but we're doing it like this is this is what it's all about. It's remarkable to me that we have this business. We're successful. We're growing. We obviously have our standard marketing, but we're here to make an impact and do things and hold people to account. So when Twitter is actively engaging in bad behavior and harming us, I'm like, well, let's make a statement and show them that we're willing to stand up and push back on this, on this trash. Where is anyone else? You know, the crazy thing is we are not the, the most successful or wealthiest people. In fact, car dealerships make more money than us. That, surprised to learn that was true, but car dealerships make a lot of money in services.
Starting point is 01:46:35 And I'm like, where is any one person just to be like, yeah, we see it sometimes. But you've got all these ultra wealthy individuals. Why don't they just have a good time of it and just be like, okay, we're going to get 10 billboards across this city that just say this thing, you know, and just call out people. We are going to hire a bunch of, you know, people to put on a performance in the city and generate press and attention. I just wonder why everything's so boring and routine. Why is it every billboard's always some ad for just some, you know, aspirin? Why is it Times Square is like the new clothes and the new TV show? I'm like, where is the giant rooster? Where is the calling out Twitter for bad behavior?
Starting point is 01:47:09 Where is anything to just shake things up? Yeah. Well, we're going to do that for sure. Let's read some more superchats. All right. Martin Campbell says, finally caught you guys live. Y'all are building something great. Keep it going.
Starting point is 01:47:22 I really do appreciate it. Not only do we have a billboard, a 96 foot tall billboard of the rooster, but they're mirrored billboards. So on the other side is the animated version of Roberto screaming into the sky and then the anime version teleporting because it's funny. Because you can.
Starting point is 01:47:37 Because we can. But I think it's funny. I think we need irreverence. We need, I mean everything's so stagnant and boring and culture when the system is a joke you have to laugh at it that's true make that laughing loud and seen destination thailand says you really need to get lauren southern adrian curry and amanda millius on the show at the same time that is a recipe for crazy conversation love that i'd love to talk to amanda millius in particular we've got some ideas to discuss amanda call me well
Starting point is 01:48:05 that'd be great yeah absolutely amanda come back on the show uh adrianne however doesn't like to leave the mountain but she hangs out in the chat and she is here's a standing invite always to come back and hang out we're big fans so oh no yeah i felt really bad because she doesn't like to leave her mountain and we also got or she got sick in the airport i'm so sorry please forgive me let's go through your immune system adrian. Yeah, true, true. St. Miles says, here's a super chat to get Lauren a special glass
Starting point is 01:48:29 to be kept on the set when she comes on TimCast IRL. Engraved. No, listen. I am sticking to my working class culture with the paper cup.
Starting point is 01:48:36 We are going to get a mock high quality paper cup. So it looks like a paper cup, but it's also super elitist and expensive all right i can do that i can do that all right engraved porcelain or some other can you do porcelain is that is it ridiculous a porcelain cup that'd be great yeah laser engraved yeah southern zone what's like what about a gold a gold chalice well now we're talking that'll be nice in your hand it'll feel warm it's a good conductor of heat you know f the magician says
Starting point is 01:49:13 when trump said lock her up it was for specific crimes her illegal servers and destroying evidence when subpoenaed it wasn't weaponization of law it was enforcing laws political class was above agreed seriously oh yeah but while you're i don't know not while you're not during the debate i mean the first time it's first time i've ever seen it during a debate threatening that you're gonna arrest your opponent perhaps all right let's see it's just equal application of the law michelle j says lauren you and malice were joking back and forth about your license last time i made assumptions and i legit told my husband you were a gorgeous trans oh am i a man that's for me to
Starting point is 01:49:51 know and the canadian government to decide that's right mini strange quirk says tim pick a random member to send the empty pappy bottles to love you lauren yeah we actually have a whole bunch of Pappy bottles because we don't keep them. So we could. Also, we have a bunch of Confederate money. I went to a collector's shop and Confederate money was worthless up until recently because there's
Starting point is 01:50:15 tons of it everywhere in huge crates. It's just paper. But as it gets older and older and older, people are starting to choose to collect it. So now it's actually becoming more and more valuable. I went to a shop and I bought a bunch. What we're thinking of doing is we're trying to figure out a way to do a giveaway for the
Starting point is 01:50:32 new season of Tales for the Inverted World, Ghosts of the Civil War, where we do something where certain members will get, you'll be able to like, we'll enter a contest when you sign up and you will, and certain people will get mailed literal Confederate money as like a prize and like a special thank you for being a member. We're trying to figure out how to do that. We haven't set it up yet, but that's an idea that we may actually do very soon. Katoth Swiss says we miss Mary the Friendly Ghost. Mary is not here tonight. Lauren Southern is instead.
Starting point is 01:51:00 Who is Mary the Friendly Ghost? She's a co-host of Pop Culture Crisis, and she just has bleach hair, and she's pale, so they call her Ghost Girl. Oh, okay. Yeah, I saw a bunch of people in the chat. They're like, bring back Ghost Girl. Get rid of this stupid Canadian. We want Ghost Girl. I'm like, all right, sorry.
Starting point is 01:51:16 I'll come back with bleach hair. Chill. Edward Lenovo says, hey, Tim and Laurenuren there's a youtuber called tick history he's done several videos about the history of socialism fascism nazism etc using actual book sources references you can look up yourself very detailed one is five hours long about hitler should talk with him actually having sources no sorry we don't yeah we we don't uh amplify anyone like that not in the media anyways tim cast maybe jimmy rodriguez says tim won't you please cover the proposal by schumer in the new ndaa it looks like gag order subversion of whistleblower
Starting point is 01:51:52 protection think lawsuits versus the dod we'll take a look into that i'm not i haven't heard uh so much about it all right big fat cloud 45 says hey tim i listened to the to the show late truck driver problems, lol. Maybe idea you should watch Iron Sky and Iron Sky 2. It shows a lot of today's ideas by people. Very funny. Love y'all. I think I've seen Iron Sky.
Starting point is 01:52:14 That's the one where the Nazis are on the moon. Is that what that is? I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I don't know. But there's a sequel. Iron Sky. The Coming Race.
Starting point is 01:52:23 Iron Sky, The Coming Race. What is it? Is it a science fiction comedy film? Yeah, the Nazis on the moon or something. Oh, okay. Iron Sky, The Coming Race. What is it? Is it a science fiction comedy film? Yeah, the Nazis on the Moon or something. Oh, okay. Is that what it is? Space Nazis. I think I watched it.
Starting point is 01:52:32 I think I watched part two. Was part two where Hitler becomes black? I am not exaggerating. I don't know. But yeah, it has to do with Nazis. You're probably right. Or no, no, no. Not Hitler himself.
Starting point is 01:52:42 A Nazi guy. Because Hitler is dead, I'm pretty sure. In the movie. Yeah, yeah. The secret military base on Nazi guy. Because Hitler is dead, I'm pretty sure. In the movie. Yeah, yeah. The secret military base on the moon. They want to take over the earth. But is part two where they... Nazi moon base.
Starting point is 01:52:51 They make... Oh, no, no, no. They make a black guy a Nazi. That's what happens. They kidnap a black guy and they make him white. It's called The Coming Race. So, yeah. It's probably something to do with race.
Starting point is 01:52:59 Is that what it is? I don't know. Happens to the best of us. I haven't seen it. Have you seen this? I haven't seen this. Iron Sky. Ridiculous movie, but you know what it is. It looks like Star happens to the best of us i haven't seen have you seen this i haven't seen this iron sky ridiculous movie but you know it is what it is it's got it looks like star wars when you look at the so many posters look like star wars all right let's grab some super chats patriot
Starting point is 01:53:16 says looking at those hiking ladies you could say see honey you can do things and still keep up with your housework that's my point carrying the kitchen sink was actually reinforcing the stereotype. Just hiking is what opposes the stereotype. I guess. Or they could have been juggling swords. No, gotta keep fit for their husbands. Yeah, actually that would
Starting point is 01:53:38 be a perfect gag about a woman training to be a better housewife. So she like straps a kitchen sink on her back and like... Mixing bowl and hand. Right, yeah. She's doing dishes like... Right. Like it up. That would be the joke. Knitting as she would.
Starting point is 01:53:49 Yeah, whatever. Deadfoot says, In our local D&D campaign, there was a potion thrower that was outside of our range. I was all out of spell slots, so I used Mage Hand to catch the potions to pocket. The DM allowed it. Good call in y'all's eyes.
Starting point is 01:54:04 Love the show. Did he make you roll a DC check on that? Because those potions are pocket. The DM allowed it. Good call in y'all's eyes. Love the show. Did he make you roll a DC check on that? Because those potions are flying, man. You must have great reflexes. I heard you guys played Magic the Gathering with Marjorie Taylor Greene. Have you guys ever... Secret.
Starting point is 01:54:18 Oh, did you? Oops, sorry. I'm not good at secrets. Have you guys ever played Dungeons & Dragons on the show? Nope. You should. Not on the show. We actually were working on a Dungeons & Dragons on the show? Nope. You should. Not on the show. We actually were working on a Dungeons & Dragons show itself, but we just...
Starting point is 01:54:28 Not enough Dungeons & Dragons players, to be honest. Everyone's still pretty new to the game. I played Pathfinders growing up, so I could join. 3.5. I was saying, I think we should do the Democrat War Games. You know how they did that fake... They did their own version. In 2020.
Starting point is 01:54:46 Yeah, it was D&D. They played D&D, but it was the election and they're like rolling die to see like all right i'm gonna try and i'm gonna run an ad to convince more voters and like roll die like the ad failed you know roll initiative yeah roll initiative she jumps over the desk i think i think it was probably more boring than that it It was like, I'm going to go to Iowa and try and caucus better. I failed. You succeed. Yeah. You enjoy your eggs.
Starting point is 01:55:10 Roll a die. Do you know what D&D is, Ned? Dungeons and Dragons? Yeah. Have you played? No. I was like, wait, D&D. Ned is like, you losers.
Starting point is 01:55:24 I've never played. Do you get into magic? No. Is that for losers? No, itgeons 3. That is like you losers. I've never played. Do you get into magic? No. Is that for losers? No, it's not. I was raised in a very conservative home, and we didn't do that. I had a buddy that he went to church camp, and when he came back, he was like, it's demonic, and he burned all his D&D books. I wasn't allowed to play Pokemon growing up because my parents were like,
Starting point is 01:55:43 you're summoning demons. Yeah, we didn't do that. We just never did it. It's great. Well, it's more about the community and having fun and creating a story with friends, like acting. All right, we got Fashan L. Flip says, Timcast, would you have Eric
Starting point is 01:55:58 July on? PayPal is screwing people who have paid for his new comic book. We would have him on. We've had him on before. We'll absolutely have him on again. Let's have him on. We can talk about this. I immediately extended an invite to him. I haven't we would have him on. We've had him on before. We'll absolutely have him on again. Let's have him on. We can talk about this. I immediately extended an invite to him. Haven't heard back from him yet. I want everyone to understand
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Starting point is 01:57:16 Good Twitter. Yeah, Ned Ryan, and it's R-Y-U-N. You got a book? I've got books. Adversary is my most recent one. It's Battle of Boston and Bunker Hills. Last 10 months before the Battle of Bunker Hills. Kind of fascinating of all the different dynamics
Starting point is 01:57:30 between the colonists and the British Empire. Also, Restoring Our Republics, another book I've got. You can find them on Amazon and AmericanMajority.org. That's my website. Right on. You can find me on Twitter at Lauren underscore Southern, YouTube, or you can watch my latest the whole truth video if you've got three hours and sites like odyssey yeah just my name and we we've
Starting point is 01:57:52 got lauren here for the rest of the week i'm gonna be hanging out apparently i'm doing skits i have no idea what it's a surprise i'm a surprise actress now nice work yep uh follow me ian crossland.net and on social media at Ian Crossland. And I want to give a special shout out to Layla and Serena, big fans of Chicken City. You guys rock. You love Chicken Ian. I love him too. And I saw your drawings and they're fantastic.
Starting point is 01:58:14 Thank you so much for being fans and watching the show. And you're going to do great things. I can feel it. See you later. And this is very important to me. I wanted to mention it before I leave. It turns out the typical hiking backpack is about 30 pounds, and a metal sink is between 25 and 50.
Starting point is 01:58:28 So either they were building a little muscle, or it's actually less than the typical hiking backpack. Should have been porcelain. Yeah, exactly. Either way, not a huge win for them. Not exactly sticking it to the patriarchy. I think they had backpacks, too. Oh, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:58:39 Yeah, I was looking at it. I was like, I can't see them. So I don't know. Good for them if they were carrying extra weight. Anyway, after that aside, you guys may follow me on Twitter and Minds.com, as well as SarahPetchlitz.me. We will see you all over at TimCast.com.
Starting point is 01:58:51 Thanks for hanging out. Bye, guys.

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