Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #583 - Chinese News Threatens To SHOOT DOWN PELOSI's Plane w/Ben Stewart & Lauren Southern

Episode Date: July 30, 2022

Tim, Ian, & Lydia join Ben Stewart and Lauren Southern to discuss China's comments about Pelosi's trip, the House's passing of an 'assault weapons' ban, DC mayor's demand for the National Guard to hel...p with the illegal migrant problem, and the Biden administration's commencement of building a wall on the southern border. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Chinese state media threatened that China, the PLA, would shoot down Nancy Pelosi's plane if she tried going to Taiwan. And Chinese state media is CCP, which is effectively their government. So I didn't want to put a headline being like China literally said they'd do it. It's Chinese news that's saying they're going to do it, but it's basically the propaganda mouthpiece for the Chinese Communist Party. Maybe it's all bluster, but Pelosi's trip to Taiwan is, well, it's shaken things up. The U.S. has redeployed a strike group into the South China Sea, so naturally tensions are hot. And maybe it's meaningless. Maybe it'll just be more bluster, or maybe it's start of something serious because, I don't know, there is conversation about the fourth turning. We got that to talk about about we also got the house just passed an assault
Starting point is 00:00:48 weapons ban now it's expected to go it's to just collapse in the senate 50 50 so we'll see and there's the filibusters it's probably not going to go anywhere we'll talk about that and then um tucker carlson oh tucker he said he wants to rename or no he literally said he did a poll and they renamed monkeypox to schlong COVID. Well, everybody's mad. They're saying Tucker is homophobic for doing it. A lot of people find it funny. We'll talk all about that before we get started. My friends head over to Tim cast.com become a member. If you would like to help support our work and get access to our uncensored after hours show. And in that, I will lightly address a little bit about last night.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Simply put, I guess that's something that you can't say. It's that simple. I posted on YouTube, the issue was YouTube censorship policies. We took the show down. There's an hour-long members-only show where we talk about a ton of things, not just that. I don't want people to think that the full explanation is just the members only, but the issue is, well, I can't repeat what was said. We try to avoid highlighting these things. So we don't put targets on our back, but I know that people want some kind of explanation. So we are exacerbating the problem by addressing it live, but that's a reality. And, um, you know, I'll just say, uh, for people wondering, you know, like, why don't you just go live again or why not? It's like, okay, well, after the show goes down, we have to figure out what's going on with the guests,
Starting point is 00:02:14 but to figure out where they're going, what we're going to do. And considering the volatility of, of everything, I was just like, we, we're not just going to restart this because, you know, well, I mean, I'll put it this way. Every guest is given the walkthrough of like, look, this is a live show broadcast to hundreds of thousands of people reaching over a million people every night. And you need to treat what you say like you would any other live show. And I think because of the relaxed nature of it, some people don't. And so I'll just fully come out and say it. It's been a stressful couple of weeks.
Starting point is 00:02:52 And having that happen, I was just ready to pass out right here. And so when we did the members-only segment, it's because people pay for a members-only segment. I'm not going to not deliver that for people who have already paid. We have a lot of members. And it was really chill and easy just to like to riff. And if you watch the members only thing, you'll see me basically just venting about the stresses that we're dealing with. So, uh, you know, long story short, if someone comes on the show and, you know, we
Starting point is 00:03:18 give everybody like a 10 minute spiel about like, you like, here are the things that you will get knocked down for. Here's how, you know, like that we're not saying for the most part, like, don't say things, you know, like we even tell people they're allowed to swear, just try not to. But if someone comes out and overtly says something and I, there's nothing I can do about it. It's just like, okay, so here's what we're going to do. We, uh, because we're idiots, we actually don't have this but we should like any other live show there's normally a a simple app that creates a lag between the video as it's recorded and then what goes live and all the producer has to do is just press the button and it just snips the frames so if someone says something super egregious like a threat they can just press a button and then it
Starting point is 00:04:04 just disappears and the show keeps going so that's what we're working on and truth be told something says something super egregious, like a threat, they can just press a button and then it just disappears and the show keeps going. So that's what we're working on. And truth be told, something we should have had a long time ago, but we're like, I don't know, just winging it this whole time in case you haven't realized. So that's me addressing to the best of my abilities. We go into greater detail in the members only thing, but only because we're kind of venting. It was Brett Dasavik. It was Andy, who's our CTO, and us just kind of talking about life and stuff. And it is what it is, I suppose.
Starting point is 00:04:32 But we're going to talk about news, and also we're going to talk about the apocalypse, because Vegas flooded, and there's apocalypse talk we can have. So joining us tonight is Ben Stewart. What's up, everybody? Ben Stewart. You can go to benjosephstewart.com where I give you the news, but I also get into alternative topics such as mind-bending practices, psychedelics, and alternative history.
Starting point is 00:04:53 So go over to benjose podcasts, 5 p.m. Eastern, every Thursday live with some amazing people all the way from UFC fighters to people in the psychedelic movement. So check it out. Right on. Awesome to be back. Lauren's back. I am.
Starting point is 00:05:19 I'm back. You know who I am. Lauren Southern, also known by the audience uh hopefully lovingly as paper cup pappy girl but we drank it all with ned last night so tonight drink it all all of it at the paper cup bar we're going to be having some patron grand patron grand patron not just patron and we're going to be mixing manuka honey in it we're getting fancy over here at the paper cup bar that's 600 honey yes lauren's like, how expensive can I make a Paper Cup drink?
Starting point is 00:05:46 And I was like, well, that costs $600. We're going to keep up in the ante every show. I would say, I feel like honey in Grand Patron probably would be really good.
Starting point is 00:05:55 I think it's going to be good. I might mix you a Paper Cup too here. You can do that and I will take it. It is Friday. I'm going to get something from the Paper Cup Bar.
Starting point is 00:06:02 You said Manuka honey is not the best tasting? It's bitter. Yeah. It's like expensive imported Australian medicinal honey. That is like the most medicinal Manuka I've ever seen. And it's also the bitterest Manuka I've ever tasted. So you take this rectally, right?
Starting point is 00:06:16 Oh, gosh. Absolutely. What you're telling me is I'm making myself a health drink. Yes. That's what I'm getting. Well, actually, alcohol, my understanding is in small amounts is good for you at lowest cortisol.
Starting point is 00:06:28 So, you know. I wonder if this is going to be good for me after we did that legal, like, heroin medicine that you made me have today. NAD.
Starting point is 00:06:36 NAD, whatever that was. We hooked Lauren up to the NAD and she was groaning and screaming. That was honestly the most painful thing I've ever done in my life.
Starting point is 00:06:44 It hurts. Yeah, it's not great. I've ever done in my life. It hurts. Yeah, it's not great. Easily, it's up there. How would you explain the feeling? Well, Tim said it was going to be like period pain, which I don't know if Tim knows what period pain is. That was not me. I said if that's what period pain is, y'all got nothing to complain about. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:00 No, it's way worse. And I don't know how you were playing video games the whole time as I could even move i was oh and you know what okay you guys need to understand this tim just sends me a message saying hey want to do nad on twitter and i have no idea what it is and i thought it was like a show or something that he started and i didn't want to be like oh i don't know what that is so i just say cool yeah sure man you got it buddy yeah you got it i show up and they have like needles everywhere and they're like everywhere what is happening here little do i know i'm about to be hooked up to an actual torture device for two hours groaning oh my gosh i don't know how you do that man and and and i gotta i gotta i'm sorry lauren
Starting point is 00:07:36 but you went slow like rogan talks about how he cranks it up to full full speed and slams it in 20 minutes so for those aren't familiar it's nicotinamide adenide dinucleotide. It's what your body turns B vitamins into, and it's like a rejuvenation thing you can get. And Joe Rogan talks about it quite a bit. Apparently, he smokes pot and then just cranks it all the way up. But it's painful, so they give you painkillers.
Starting point is 00:08:02 My explanation is it feels like you turned around and there's a bear like that feeling you get when an adrenaline rush hits you that but for like an hour and a half or two hours it's excruciating yeah it feels like the top of the roller coaster when you're going down and it just doesn't stop and your whole stomach is just doing that churn thing repeatedly i have never i can rarely remember any points in my life where I've like yelled at a nurse and been like, stop it. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Make it stop. You went, you were like, crank it up. And the nurse was like, no, I don't want to do that. And you were like, do it.
Starting point is 00:08:34 And then she was like, I'll do it a little bit. And then you went, ah. You gotta know. And then Lauren was like, are there only two settings, zero and 100?
Starting point is 00:08:44 I actually had like a proper panic attack when I saw her leave And Lauren was like, are there only two settings, 0 and 100? I actually had like a proper panic attack when I saw her leave because I can't move. Like I like literally couldn't move my body. And I'm like, I'm gonna be trapped in this hell. And she's gone. And there's no one that can turn this down. Dude. Well, anyway, so Lauren's here.
Starting point is 00:09:03 And she's treating it with some Grand Patron and Manuka honey. This is the funniest thing because it's like it's a vitamin drip. You get like B vitamins and it's like hydrating. So like afterwards, I feel great. We had hibachi, grilled meat and sushi. And Lauren's like, I'm going to drink. NAD is a precursor to a protein that's called – there's sirtuins. There's these proteins your body has. And the protein measures the amount of energy in your cell.
Starting point is 00:09:25 So when your cell divides, this protein, these sirtuins, want to make sure there's enough energy in both of the new cells. If there's not, then they have to clip off the end caps of the chromosomes to compensate. And that's what they call aging. So having enough of these proteins because of the NAD as a precursor will. Longevity thing? Yeah, accuracy. Supposedly it reverses and reduces aging.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Yeah, so you can do two things as a rich, famous person. You can torture children for adrenochrome or whatever it's called, or you can do NAD. I'm pretty sure they're all just doing NAD. You guys can know that Tim's doing the eternal life the proper way, not killing children. Right, right. There's a lot of research out of Harvard on it, and they'll mix it with intermittent fasting, berberine, or what's it? Metformin is a diabetes medicine, but the berberine's
Starting point is 00:10:05 the plant they derive that from, and resveratrol. And they've even had experiments on like dogs, and they find like life extension in dogs and stuff. Fascinating. So you look young. So Lauren's here. I'm here. Sorry, that was a very long introduction.
Starting point is 00:10:17 All right. Moving on. I didn't get the NAD, but I am Ian Crossland, also happy to be here. Let's talk. Yeah, NAD's a trip. I'm glad Lauren survived, and we have her here with us again tonight. I'm. Also happy to be here. Let's talk. Yeah. NAD is a trip. I'm glad Lauren survived and we have her here with us again tonight. I'm excited to talk about the apocalypse. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:10:30 All right. So over the Daily Mail, they reported it. Let me read the headline. China says it will shoot Pelosi's plane down if she travels to Taiwan under U.S. fighter escort. Speaker refuses to confirm trip. Quote, if U.S. fighter jets escort Pelosi's plane into Taiwan, it is an invasion. Hu Shijian, a commentator for the Chinese state-affiliated Global Times, wrote on Twitter, the PLA has the right to forcibly dispel Pelosi's plane and the U.S. fighter jets, including firing warning shots and making tactical
Starting point is 00:11:03 movements of obstruction. If ineffective, then shoot them down, who said. Pelosi has not confirmed reports she will travel to Taiwan. But the other news is that the U.S. has sent a carrier and a strike group to the South China Sea. So it does seem like things are escalating a bit. Ladies and gentlemen, it is apocalypse night here. Las Vegas flooded. There's like war with China. There was an op ed in The New York Timesork times that said pelosi's trip to taiwan is too dangerous so i'm wondering if you guys what do you guys think about this i do kind of feel like china's bluster come on some some ccp state media guy saying he's going to shoot down pelosi yeah right yeah you said at the top of the shows this is a not the ccp that said. They said it was a news media organization.
Starting point is 00:11:45 No, no, no. This is the CCP. Oh, I thought you said it came out of the news media. So my point is if you have a company in China, it's the CCP. Oh, that I agree with. Yeah, but this wasn't like the party. This is state propaganda. State propaganda.
Starting point is 00:11:59 So what I want to be careful of, it's not Xi Jinping, the or the militant PLA coming out and saying we will shoot you down. It's their propaganda arm saying we have a right to shoot at you. And if it doesn't stop you, we will. We can shoot. And they also this says that they'll shoot at her plane if she goes there. But then later in the thing, it says we'll shoot at her plane if she brings fighter escorts. So that's a different situation. If she just goes in without escorts, maybe there's not Sabre Rattling. Or the fourth turning.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Totally the fourth turning. Actually, what was it? Tony Robbins just had on – who's the surviving one? William Strauss or Neil Howe? Oh, yeah, Strauss' high theory. One of them died. Yeah, one of them died, but the other one was just talking with Tony Robbins, and it's getting kind of real in this fourth turning.
Starting point is 00:12:43 But apparently it ends 2028 it's neil howe's the one that's still alive yeah if it ends 2028 we're in it so i don't know 2026 is i've heard 2026 is when things are going to get absolutely bonkers i just did a piece on this on my youtube where um 200 i think it was glubb i forget forget. Like Sir John Glubb. He studied empires, the rise and the fall of them. And he said that 2020 or 250 years is the maximum lifespan of a country. United States will turn 250 years in 2026. So that kind of coincides with that. I even wrote down some other things.
Starting point is 00:13:21 We meet all the criteria for an empire in decline, like massive complexity that just seems unsustainable, supposedly climate, deforestation, environmental degradation, and then changing relations between friendlies and foes or heightening tensions between them. And there's other things in there. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean cultural collapse uh wastefulness a lack of decorum i mean like yeah decadence uh like basement of the currency like imagine like a young woman pouring expensive honey into a paper cup with really expensive
Starting point is 00:13:57 liquors right that shows based around decadence exactly Exactly. What a woman she would be. What an animal. And there's one other funny thing when going back through like Rome all the way through many other empires. Apparently in the late stages of it, they all seem to highlight chefs. They make celebrities out of their chefs. Oh, I read that. Yeah. It's just some weird anomaly. No.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Yeah, man. I wonder if there's like an emergent phenomenon around food and chefs and like... So much. Well, you're so comfortable. You're entertained by taking food to the most extreme levels. It's pure gluttony. And then also turning like animals into babies. Like how many times have you seen little dogs in cradles, all dressed up and everything?
Starting point is 00:14:47 That's got to be a sign of an empire in decline. Yeah. The chef celebrities and baby pets. I noticed when I watched the survival videos of people building their own house with their axe and stuff, and then it'll cut to them frying really crappy spam or something in a pan, and then cooking and eating it. And I'm like, this is not appetizing. Why is this part of the video of them like cutting up their meat?
Starting point is 00:15:10 I guess it's like people want to know what it's like to live out in the woods and hunt and cook your own stuff. But that's like the opposite of decline. Like watching a video of some super ripped dude killing a deer and then eating it. But this will be like he opens a can of tuna and then has some carrots, like frozen carrots, and he'll be cooking it in a pan. Okay, so that's... This is like chef in decline. That's post-apocalyptic.
Starting point is 00:15:33 This is like celebrity chef type stuff. Yeah, that's 2028. The real celebrity chef is making the cakes that you can't distinguish from objects where they're like, I could cut this right now and it could be a cake. Isn't that a Netflix show? It is.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Yeah. Are you serious? Have you seen the video where the guy, he's watching the videos of people like cutting a shampoo bottle and it's cake and he looks shocked and then he like grabs his phone and squeeze it and it's cake and then he like grabs his TV remote and squeeze it and it's cake and he starts panicking and then he looks down at his butt and he grabs his butt and it's cake and he's like, no. Can't trust anything. Yeah. cake everything is why why are they highlight chefs what's up with this i i think i think tim's on to something there that um i forget it wasn't
Starting point is 00:16:16 john perkins it was somebody else that was saying like there's this feeling in whether it's a nation or an empire that like times were great we were were great, but no one's feeling it anymore. Like there's another one, mercenaries. When you have to start hiring mercenaries for fighting your wars for you, like the God and country isn't working anymore. And same thing with the bread and circuses. I think it's part of the whole chef thing is part of the bread and circuses thing. Did you see that they're having serious problems recruiting people for the military? They've lowered the education standard.
Starting point is 00:16:49 They've lowered the fitness standard. We're going to have wars fought by mercenaries in no time. Yeah, I wouldn't doubt that. Actually, what's interesting, I was saying like, yeah, you kind of went through the piece of cake boot camp where they can't touch you. They can't hit you. They can't push you. And like you didn't need to do even half as much of the running as we needed to. So even back then, about 20 years ago, apparently it was like a shell of what it used to be, boot camp.
Starting point is 00:17:26 We had Blackwater fighting a huge part, or at least, if not fighting the war in the Middle East, they were, like, functioning as administration for a lot. I mean, that's mercenary work. Well, look at Ukraine. American citizens are on the ground in Ukraine, but the U.S. is like, we didn't send them there. They're not officially ours, and it's like an international cohort of individuals fighting this war but so you said
Starting point is 00:17:49 countries got 250 years but what about like france which had 900 000 years well it's empires it's not countries it's empires so like other empires are still around you know other like great britain's still around you know but has the u.s been an empire for 250 years it hasn't well not not an empire and that's a good point because uh 17 i don't i don't know when they start the clock either right when you are officially an empire because i know 1776 i guess you wouldn't have called the united states an empire you know it know? It wasn't until I think like the 1900s that the U.S. went totally empirical. Yeah. Federal Reserve.
Starting point is 00:18:29 1946 even. Who was that guy that everybody hates? Woodrow Wilson? Oh, man. Yeah. Everybody hates that guy, right? Really, it was like after World War II, they realized if we don't become a world order empire or whatever, that we're going to have World War III.
Starting point is 00:18:42 So they were like liberal economic order, which you could call an empire. We got military bases all over the earth, sign of empire. The liberal international economy. Yes, the lie. The lie was established in 1946. It's also, this is a different world than all the other empires when we were, you know, like mapping out this 250-year lifespan as well. I mean, when you're talking about nations and empires, you're also talking about like major economic blocks, like transnational economic blocks.
Starting point is 00:19:09 I also want to point out, isn't it that empires last 250 years on average? Is it? Well, I mean, the Soviet Union lasted 69 years. Yeah. And that was massive. I mean, they were spreading all over the planet. Remnants still exist in some fashion today. The U.S., I mean, I wonder if the 250 years thing is based upon the extent of communications without electronics.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Right? So all of these big empires communicated through letter delivery, carrier, horseback. Now we have rapid communication. That causes things to evolve much more quickly, especially now with the internet and social media. It's just ramping up faster than. So, I mean, you think about Franz Ferdinand, right? He gets shot.
Starting point is 00:19:55 How long did it take for everyone to find out? Probably not that long relative to now, but it was lightning speed relative to previous conflicts. Telegraph, radio, word went out to their countries really quickly, but how long did it take for regular people to find out? You know, if we had something like that happen today, it'd be on social media the moment it happened. Everyone would see it. So it's even faster. That anger, that animosity, the conflict can spread instantly across every person. So you think about the conflicts we've had in this country. Sentiment for civil war, right, in the United States.
Starting point is 00:20:29 How long did it take for an idea to go from one person to everyone in a city, to make it from New York to Illinois or down to Florida? Those ideas to change and then create rifts probably took a really, really long time. Well, you look at like the first Persian empire and one of the biggest reasons they collapsed internally was because of all of these internal rifts they were having, rebellions, they were taking slaves and bringing them into their military and making them mercenaries as we were talking about.
Starting point is 00:20:57 And now because of technology, like you're saying, we're having this ramping up of that kind of stuff and rebellions like Black Lives Matter internally causing rebellion within the U.S. All of these. And then we also have information that shows us that you have Russia, China potentially pumping money into these internal rebellions that we're facing in the West. And you're right. We're going to have basically a repeat of what caused a lot of these past empires to collapse on crack because of the technological.
Starting point is 00:21:25 It's the waiting. I can't stand can't stand yeah yeah just bring it on like 20 i'm talking about a guy in the woods like cracking open an old can of tuna and putting carrots in it and i'm like sounds pretty good i wonder if this is actually an american empire or if it's just the british empire amassed with the american military because the British Empire is actually an empire. That's part of it. There's also like a math equation. This one guy, it was an old TED Talks, but he was saying like even in a bacterial petri dish, mismatches between resources and consumption cause things like five generations in or before the decline. The population is doubling every single generation.
Starting point is 00:22:14 And then five generations before the decline, the food declines by 15-16ths. The next generation by three-fourths, and it's empty in the next generation, or in the next generation is about half. And then the following generation is the mathematical conclusion of it. I don't know if that petri dish is a one-on-one parallel to what we're dealing with. Well, so you've heard that wealth lasts three generations, they say, right? The first generation comes up, figures it out, works hard, and then has that within them, this individual. They have kids. Those kids learn a lesson from the first generation. They inherit the wealth and they know a little bit enough to kind of just sort of
Starting point is 00:22:51 maintain it. Now you have another generation and they're learning a lesson about a lesson. It's a copy of a copy. And so by the third generation, they have no idea how the empire was built. They have no idea how to start a company. They don't have the same life lessons. So I have to think about this too. I hear stories about people who they're like, I was a college dropout and I was poor and I worked hard. And then now they have kids and those kids are children
Starting point is 00:23:15 of the wealthiest people on the planet. They're not gonna learn the same lesson. Like Steve Jobs was homeless. He was like sleeping on couches and floors. And then he had that fire within him and ruthlessness let's be real his kids you know i don't know i'm assuming he has kids but like the children of these people don't have that they grew up in luxury totally i know it's like such a tired analogy the good men bad times thing but they've got another arab parable that's like
Starting point is 00:23:42 just like what you're talking about where it's like i'll ride a camel my son will ride will ride in a toyota his son will ride in a ferrari and then his son will ride a camel and there's a reason that these parables exist though the good men hard times whatever it's because it's just what happens every damn time and humanity keeps trying to tell us we've lived this story a billion times but all right guys good luck do it again have fun that's why i'm saying like when i have kids like i'm gonna kick them out at three years old and be like here's a bandana a trowel a pack of seeds and a pointy stick like maybe a match you know no but but in all seriousness what we do is we take the newborn we put him in the woods for a day and if he survives he's strong enough to join the tribe.
Starting point is 00:24:26 That's so true. That's some George Carlin logic. No, no. That was the Spartans, I think. They did that, right? If the baby didn't survive out in the wilderness, it wasn't strong enough. And then nothing crazy like that. But I certainly think you've got to teach hard labor, like good manual labor chores, lifting stuff, shoveling, mowing the lawn.
Starting point is 00:24:45 You got to teach kids, you know, those kind of lessons. Yeah. Should we let the cat in? I think so. His focus is screaming. It's bucko time.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Why is he trying to... Does the cat get to join the show? It's because Ian started giving him water and now he's coming on the show every time. I'm getting some. Let's pull up this next story here and talk about the decline. We got this from Timcast.com.
Starting point is 00:25:06 U.S. House passes first assault weapons ban since 1994. Laughable, stupid, and a waste of time. And apparently some Republicans even joined in to support the Democrats banning nothing. Bill makes no sense. No one knows. Yeah, so I think this is a really good example not of disarmament right a lot of people are saying they're trying to you know i think luke tweeted this they're going to try and disarm you for their depopulation agenda or something and i'm like no i think it's
Starting point is 00:25:34 it's nonsense it's logicless they're not doing anything this bill bans half it'll like thomas massey pointed this out the mini 14 receiver is banned this out. The mini 14 receiver is banned, but the mini receiver, mini 14 receiver is also not banned in the same bill and verbatim. So Massey points out the mini 14 with a pistol grip and a collapsing stock is an assault weapon. So it's banned. The receiver of any such weapon is also banned, but the mini 14 with a rifle stock is not banned and the receiver of any such weapon is not banned, and the receiver of an H-weapon is not banned. And so he points out, he's like, so how is the identical receiver both banned and not banned? And they have no answer.
Starting point is 00:26:12 They literally just don't answer it. It's all political moves. It's like, obviously, I'm in Canada, but right after you had the shooting in Texas at the school, Trudeau came out and banned transfer and sale of handguns or proposed a ban the next day. And it's like, why? We're talking about a shooting in another country using a gun that's already banned in our country. And you're going to put a freeze on sale of a handgun that are rarely used for shootings in Canada at all, where we don't have a problem with this? Completely political. And it seems like the U.S. are doing that, too, even though sometimes i feel like you guys have better laws around guns better understanding and then every time i think
Starting point is 00:26:47 that your politicians go and do stuff like this i just gotta say it every time trudeau does a press conference he's it sounds like he's trying like he's talking to someone he's about to rape but i'm not trying to be like when he was like keep your we need to ban all the guns. It's like it's the voice someone has when they're grabbing the woman like, just relax. Let me do this. Put down the weapon, lady. Yeah, I'm taking your gun away from you. And then it's funny because you guys up in Canada banned guns like around the same time. It was like Uvalde, right?
Starting point is 00:27:20 Trudeau announces their freezing handgun sales. And it was obvious it was in response to a US news story but he also had previously complained up in Canada that Canada with a trucker protest is that American politics are seeping into Canada so true yeah and then he comes out and it's like come on dude
Starting point is 00:27:36 spare me I think this assault weapons ban is a perfect example of what the Democrats are they will they have no logic to their morals. It's like we're all trying to figure out what are the rules and how do we live together? Among the Democrats and most of the left,
Starting point is 00:27:54 it's just pure tribalism. So they're like, we're banning guns? Excellent. Does it make sense? Who cares? As long as you agree with thing. Current thing. Current year, current thing.
Starting point is 00:28:03 If there's a bill that is proposing to both ban and not ban something, you've got to discard that stupid bill or at least remove that section from the bill before you can move forward. You can't even vote yes or no on something like that. It's going to be really funny when someone gets arrested with a mini 14 receiver and then they sue and they're like, well, what's the logic there? Is the logic that if it says it's not banned but but then it says it is banned, therefore it is banned? You know what I mean? Like the negative is stronger than the positive or something? How does this even work? I don't think they care.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Yeah, I don't think they care. No, I want to point something out too because I think we have this tweet from Ian. Let me see if I can find it. I don't know where it's at. Yeah, here we go. This is perfectly in line with what we're talking about. Check this out.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Ron Filipowski, What was it? Philip Kowski says Lauren Boebert wants the House to pass a rule to give her five days to read a bill before voting on it. He didn't say much after that. He just said this thing. But you'll notice a lot of the comments are people saying, like, this is ridiculous. I can, you know, I can read a book in a day. But then Ian chimed in. Ian, of course, you should read it. It's your tweet. Yeah, it should be a felony for congressmen to vote on
Starting point is 00:29:09 a bill they have not read. I want them under oath acknowledging they've read the bill before voting. Yeah. Interestingly, when Ian chimed in with that one, then you get some unity. Everyone's like, yeah, actually, that makes sense. But the crazy thing to me is there are so many people responding to Ron Filipkowski just making fun of Lauren Boebert for saying something that is quite possibly the most logical and bipartisan thing ever. Yeah, I was actually very pleased with the response to this because like Ron has a Ukraine flag in his profile. So there was a part of me that was like, oh, gee, should I just assume he's some zealot? And it's like, you know what? What he said is just neutral. I'm going to respond neutrally.
Starting point is 00:29:45 And then people in the comments, you see people with Ukraine flags saying, yes, this is actually a great idea. You see people that are like, I'm a Christian conservative. This is a great idea, like it said in their profile. So it's just an American idea. And I think it's an idea that justifies
Starting point is 00:30:00 or that supports, like, liberty. You cannot have ignorance in Congressrence right i mean that's just absolutely at least five days i'm shocked that that wasn't a rule beforehand like the idea that they're passing these absolutely critical rules for your country and it's like not even a few days to decompress and think about it no we're worse. Maybe they can read it in one day. Great. Can they think about it and really weigh the moral consequences of the stuff they're putting into your nation? It's worse than you realize because Marjorie Taylor Greene pointed out to us.
Starting point is 00:30:34 There's a giant cat butthole on the camera, by the way. Marjorie, what are you doing? Good job, buddy. You're going to rest. Marjorie Taylor Greene pointed out that oftentimes when they're passing bills, they don't even have anybody in the room. It'll be like three Democrats and three Republicans. And someone who's not even the speaker will be like, oh, we got a bill here. It says this.
Starting point is 00:30:51 And they go, eh, it passes. And so what they've been doing is the Freedom Caucus has like a watch where they go down and they call for like a roll call vote or something where they got to force all the members of Congress to come back in and actually vote on these bills. Actually do their job. Yeah, but they're still not reading them that's the crazy thing absolutely unconscionable and people have pointed out in this twitter thread as well that this is something that should have been enshrined in the constitution from day one just assumed that they would be reading the bills because that was their intention was like
Starting point is 00:31:19 what how could they never how could they not you know i would like to see a i don't know if you guys have any knowledge of like if you could compare you know the beginning of the u.s how many bills were being proposed and passed at the start versus now i reckon it's like a mass ramp up and stuff because it's super easy to just like roll out that rug right oh we can just pass and do things every single day but it's super hard to roll it back and i don't think things were initially like the constitution was put in place for a country operating like this where it's like adhd let's just pass things and propose things all over the place every day and not even think about it and have this 24-hour news cycle where it's like bam bam bam bam bam they'll also put like a thousand things in one bill yeah so they'll call it they'll maybe they
Starting point is 00:32:02 have less bills now than they used to, but that's because they've got 500 times the amount of stuff in each bill. But let's go back to what we were just talking about a moment ago. The collapse of an empire. There's certainly no country when the members of Congress are more concerned with fundraising phone calls than reading the bills. Laws
Starting point is 00:32:19 are being passed that no one even knows about. The omnibus spending bill gets brought in like a wagon. It's like a red, they brought it in like on a wagon, 5,000 pages. So when your country's doing that, I'll put it this way, ladies and gentlemen, our members of Congress don't read the bills. They're not there to vote on the bills. There's a porous southern border. So first, we have no legislation. They're not actually doing their job. Next, we have no country. A nation with no border is not a country. That's how country is defined, a nation with defined borders.
Starting point is 00:33:00 A nation is a group of people with shared history, culture, and laws. We don't have shared laws anymore. Some states have disregarded half the laws. Sanctuary cities, sanctuary states. I got to tell you, I think the US is basically like someone took a figurative mountain and just splattered it all over the place. And now it's a big random hodgepodge of nonsense. So I mean, look, the Constitution is Swiss cheese. Our politicians don't do their jobs.
Starting point is 00:33:27 The Democrats are calling the Supreme Court illegitimate, even though they're functioning as the Constitution dictates. It doesn't matter. None of it matters. Did you see how they're shipping illegal immigrants? They've been busing illegal immigrants from the southern border to D.C. and other big cities. And they just called in the National Guard in D.C.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Miriam Bowser, is it Miriam? Miriel. Miriel Bowser requested the National Guard to, cities and they just called in the national guard in dc miriam bowser is it miriam miriam miriel bowser requested the uh the national guard to there's like 4 000 immigrants when i was in tapachula i was meeting with a few immigrants that had been deported after a few years in dc in the states because a lot of them have their court cases in dc so they know yeah i'll cross the border and i might get kicked out because i have no standing. I don't even qualify as an economic migrant. I don't qualify as anything. But they know that they'll have to be taken to D.C. to hear whatever case they have for a few years.
Starting point is 00:34:13 And they'll get to have a good time there. This one guy I was speaking to was trying to get in saying he was attacked by gangs. But half of them are actually part of gangs and just try to use a bad experience they had with MS-13, despite being a part of it, to get in. And bad experience they had with MS-13, despite being a part of it, to get in. And he's like, yep, I'm making my way back up again. At least I'll get to spend a few years in D.C., you know, waiting on my trial. Will be fun.
Starting point is 00:34:33 You know, I'll get some food and board. Good time. I can't be mad about this because the cat crawled in my lap. So I'm just, you know. Peace. Yeah, it's like the story should be really disconcerting and distressing but i just you kind of look like dr evil though i know someone someone said good evening mr bond i've been expecting you yeah people more cats adopt a cat one thing that's really interesting
Starting point is 00:34:58 to look at um beyond cat conversations one thing that's really interesting to look at is there's, I think it's the Syracuse Institute that cover it. The level of what judges allow migrants in versus which ones don't. You can look at some of the comparisons and there'll be some judges that accept like 99% of applicants and some that reject 99% and only accept 1%. It is actually just a game of luck. It's like going to a freaking casino, whether you're going to get in or not. You can compare female judges to male judges, which county they're in, and it has almost nothing
Starting point is 00:35:33 to do with the application that these migrants put in or illegals put in. It has everything to do with the judges' feelings. Will there be people that come and try and get legal recourse, they get denied, and then they just come back and try to go to a different judge? Get a different judge, basically basically and they can get it in the next time i'm concerned because what is the the solution obviously like globalization on some level is functional you know we're expansionist by nature i think expanding liberal democracy americanism whatever the u.s constitution could
Starting point is 00:36:01 be good but like how do you defend i know one way to defend a border that the Romans tried. I mean, it used to be pretty brutal, and that's not – Soldiers? Yeah, yeah, weaponry. Like, defense. Carrie Lake is talking about sending the National Guard down to the border, declaring an emergency, an invasion. Let me pull up this story here. We got this from NBC Washington.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Ian just mentioned it a moment ago. D.C. may request National Guard to help with migrants bust to Capitol. A lot of people are laughing about it, saying it's like it's irony, it's funny, or Texas and Arizona's plan is working. Let me tell you something. Texas and Arizona could be busting the migrants back to where they came from, to their home countries. Sending them to DC is helping the Democrats and the Biden administration with their immigration agenda. They are basically saying, so Texas is like, we're going to send these migrants to you, DC. And then DC is like, thanks for the help. We're going to then distribute these people around the country where we see fit. What this means is- To places we don't live.
Starting point is 00:36:56 It's true. The way it's supposed to work, you get in line and say, I'd like to come to this amazing country. We say, let us figure it out and give you the best possible place so that everybody thrives. What the Democrats and the Biden administration are doing is they're saying, just let everybody come in and then we'll sort them out later. No rules, no rules, rules. And then Texas and Arizona are like, we'll show you Biden. We'll actually pay for the buses to send them into the country. Ha. And then people are laughing about it. And I'm like, dude, you're just helping them. Texas and Arizona could more easily.
Starting point is 00:37:29 It is a longer bus ride to D.C. I feel like people on the ride are being duped into thinking that plan was a good plan. There's a few things. I'm not so sure how it applies here, but I know when I was covering migration issues in Europe, one thing all the migrants would do is they would destroy their passports before coming in and touching ground in any European country because they had basically been told, well,
Starting point is 00:37:48 if you don't have a passport, they don't know where they can deport you to. And so there are some tactics that migrants will use to try to prevent deportation. So I'm not sure how difficult it is for these states to do that. If they are trying to apply legally to get in but don't have standing, it would be much easier to deport them but then if they're going in and like claiming asylum status there still has to be some sort of court case which is the problem because they still have to be held somewhere our goodwill is being taken advantage of yeah people who are coming here are not asylum seekers they're economic migrants i get it i i'll tell you this i have infinitely more respect for them for them than the modern american leftist that hates this country but there still has to be a process for the sake of maintaining what this country is.
Starting point is 00:38:28 If it's good, and I mean, our economy is not so good these days, but still better than other places, well, then there's a reason why it is, because there's a system in place. If people just come in, start ripping apart that system, it's the decline of empire. I mean, actually, wasn't the Roman Empire dealing with immigration crisis? Hugely. It was the fall of the empire it was all the northern uh trot like i don't know who was it the uh not the vandals people in the northeast but basically after the the empire had to spread all throughout the eastern and the western roman empires the the empire split in half they but
Starting point is 00:38:59 then it just like over the next 200 years people just kept pouring across the border and then they would set up their new government, like their foreign government in Rome, in the Roman territory. Then all of a sudden you realize it's not Roman territory anymore because that other government is now running the show. Rome also had bureaucratic complexity that wasn't sustainable past a certain point. And part of that is like-
Starting point is 00:39:22 Sound familiar? Yeah. And kind of what you're talking about, when you're saying the culture is part of what holds people together, that's like the story. It's the agreed upon story. It also lends into why at first you don't need to hire mercenaries because the story is strong and people believe it. And then after a while, when you get a certain critical mass of burn it down, this place doesn't... people in the country disrespecting the story
Starting point is 00:39:46 of of the very country or the nation that's when it starts to come apart is when the belief that this is even a good thing that we're upholding and then what you were just mentioning about like at the beginning of the nation how many bills were being passed well it also feels like that the constitution was there to say, this is what the government is, and that's it. And then it just kept growing and growing and growing. And then a lot of people, they need to secure their position. So keep passing bills.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Keep making your job position relevant. So that complexity grows, not because I believe in it. And I believe what this this, you know, nation could be, but a lot of it is self preservation. So it builds this bureaucratic, bureaucratic complexity that just can't sustain for very long. A lot of people are commenting saying I'm wrong. States don't have the authority to deport people, only the federal government does. But I kind of I don't I don't know how that makes sense. I mean, I accept that I may be wrong on that. I just mean, like, the states have to have the ability to be like you just illegally entered. Turn around and go away.
Starting point is 00:40:55 You know what I mean? I mean, I guess. But Biden doesn't seem to care about it. So if you're I mean, look, Carrie Lake's talk at the very least, I'll put it this way. Fine. Maybe they can't legally. But couldn't they just anyway? I don't know. I don't understand. Well, they're getting steamrolled by the federal government on every single level. I mean, even before migrants are entering Texas, they are getting cash based interventions from the U.N. whose number one funder is the United States and their government, right? So American tax dollars are going to funding migrants' trip from South America and Mexico up to Texas, illegals' trips. They're handing out these cards in Reynosa at migrant camps,
Starting point is 00:41:36 debit cards from the UN so that they can make it there. You can look this up on the Center for Immigration Studies. It's a real thing. Your tax dollars are directly going to funding illegal migrants' journey up into Texas. Okay, hold on, hold on. You know, Ian, you talk about the fall of Rome a lot, right? And it seems like what happened with Rome was that migrants started coming in. What if our adversaries studying that said, here's a way to destroy a country, started funding mass migration? But the US iss is funding it the u.s are the number one you know funder to organizations like the u.n who are giving the money to the migrants so why are the u.s destroying themselves i don't understand that's a great question and and like is the u.s
Starting point is 00:42:17 a singular thing anymore or is it or is it an organism attacking itself why is tim smiling like because i'm seeing all the comments people are making about bucko and it's just hilarious sorry Or is it an organism attacking itself? Why is Tim smiling like that? Because I'm seeing all the comments people are making about Bucko. And it's just hilarious. Sorry. He was giving this ominous smile like he knew something. I'm petting the cat while smiling. Like, you're freaking me out.
Starting point is 00:42:40 The country's going down the shitter. People are posting emojis and stuff in the chat and making jokes about Bucko. He's very pleased. Yeah, so state and local law enforcement officers cannot arrest someone solely for illegal presence for the purpose of deporting them because it is a civil violation. Didn't they have something in place where during COVID they could turn them right around, though? Yeah, so there was like a temporary thing. Yeah, it was Title 42. Yeah, but Biden got rid of that.
Starting point is 00:43:04 I don't think yet i think not yet court blocked him he's trying to we should hire mercenaries on the state level to remove base here's what i'll say though you know the people who are saying that we can't deport them okay well i'll say this wouldn't they be better off being detained or something or in some way organize in such that we can try and reduce crimes, try and stop criminals, try and vet them in the natural process. Like what I mean is if we catch a bunch of illegal immigrants, our duty is supposed to be like, OK, like let's figure out who you are, what you're doing here and go through that process.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Why just send them to D.C.? The Biden administration has been smuggling children, trafficking kids on military aircraft around the country. It just feels like you're paying half the bill for them because that's what they're trying to do. Now they're going to call the national guard and it's going to take more taxpayer dollars. Their attitude is probably like, oh, we don't care about that. Like you're sending migrants to us. Okay. We, we, we, we think them calling an emergency is something bad for them, but they're probably just like, cost of doing business.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Was it? Okay, wait. I'm like looking this up to make sure this story is real, but I heard that Israel was doing like re-migration where they were paying people to go back to their home countries for a while. I heard that Denmark is doing that because they actually do want to encourage people to go back to wherever they came from.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Denmark doesn't really want a lot of immigration to their country. I guess they've really been overwhelmed. Denmark saw what was going on with Sweden with those grenade attacks. Denmark knows what's up. Yeah, it's crazy. So when I was covering the Sweden stuff, we were staying in Copenhagen for a little bit. And when you're going into Sweden, they stop you and they check your IDs because they're worried about
Starting point is 00:44:47 the people who are coming in and out of Sweden. There was a few months before I had gone there, someone threw a grenade onto a balcony killing an eight-year-old English tourist. Oh, I heard that. Yeah, grenading was a huge problem. I don't know if it still is, but it was a huge problem several years ago.
Starting point is 00:45:01 I think it still is. My wife is Dutch and she's, I mean, she's been seeing it for years years her and her family is that the the immigration waves um it's really like the cohesiveness that you would have had in these neighborhoods before starts to come apart the story you know that that binds them all together starts to come apart and um it's interesting because also holland uh Holland and several other places out there is where the thing with the farmers is happening. Cops shooting at them.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Right. We're about to run out of food, so the best thing is to stop farmers from doing their job. It's almost like it's on purpose. Zuby called it a controlled demolition. Yeah. I mean, if you listen to Catherine Austin Fitz, and I know I mentioned her on this show before, she worked under George W. Bush in the 90s, I think doing HUD or something like that. moving assets to offshore accounts. And we need a bunch of forward-facing, like public-facing events that will have the public not looking at what the real perpetrator was.
Starting point is 00:46:13 So she's been saying this for years, and she's probably one of the most coherent speakers on the topic, as you can get. And she was even saying with the BLM riots, I think I might have mentioned this before. It was like 34 out of 37 of the riots happened within just a very small perimeter around the central banks there. And her theory was it just makes it convenient that all this territory can be built up as the smart grid, which is what the whole push is. So build it up as the smart grid, buy up this lawn, paw shops, the infrastructure.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Destroying the businesses and creating crime, which drops property values so they can be bought up and turned into a smart grid? That's what she says. I wouldn't go so far as to say that, but I wouldn't deny that that might be an angle. But this is Catherine Austin Fitz having worked under George W. Bush. I'm sorry, Herbert Walker Bush in the 90s, saying that she's been tracking, like, where did that well over $21 trillion of the federal budget go? You know, she's the one that's been tracking all that. So she was the assistant secretary of housing and urban development for housing under George W. Bush. I saw a joke on Reddit.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Some guy was saying, well, my rent prices start going up i'll just go out into the neighborhood and fire a couple shots off to uh lower the housing prices where it's like uh some guys like i rented an apartment heard a gunshot ran outside and the guy next door said not to worry about it it was him they just try to keep the property about the rent prices low yeah yeah yeah that's oh well so i just want to confirm because i i don't want to put fake news on the timcast right israel did have a policy where they were um giving financial aid to african countries to send back african refugees and migrants they weren't even sending them back to their home countries they were like screw it just a place in africa rwanda, Ritri, Idlework. We'll give you aid. So like if Israel can do it, why can't we just give you a bit of support or send them all back?
Starting point is 00:48:13 Send them all to Puerto Rico. I wonder if Puerto Rico doesn't matter. I wonder if it can be solved because as strict as Trump was, we still saw a massive influx of migrants, the caravans, all that stuff. You know, Trump, Trump was very serious. Build the wall, deport them. You got to go home. You can come inans, all that stuff. You know, Trump was very serious. Build the wall, deport them. You got to go home. You can come in legally, all that stuff. And during his presidency, we had videos of people charging border guards,
Starting point is 00:48:32 like migrant caravan running full speed and attacking US border guards. It's happening every day. When I was just down there in December and what's going on is like, you drive on the highway from Tapachula up to Northern Mexico, you're going to run into a caravan every 20 minutes.
Starting point is 00:48:47 I'm not even joking. But what's going on is they'll block the highway to try to get buses north, and they'll pressure the government. Oh, these are major shipping routes. If you don't give us a bus, you're not, you're basically, your country's not going to be able to function. So they'll get them buses. But what will happen is then those buses will start to transfer to come and get the caravan. And anotheravan will block those buses on the way up and then they'll have to negotiate with those guys. And it's just absolute chaos there. So when I make jokes about, oh, we need to just start deporting people and do this, we honestly do need some sort of policy that is a yes or no, open or closed, because it's actually destroying every country in between. It's destroying Mexico. It's destroying the lives of these people who have no idea what the actual immigration system is in America. Is there an immigration system?
Starting point is 00:49:29 I'm seeing my cousin, my nephew, everyone get in by walking in. And when I apply legally, I can't get in. So I guess that's just how the U.S. works. I'm going to do that. Everyone's life, migrant, refugee, Mexican, American, is getting destroyed by no clarity on this issue. It's really, really harsh reality. Because if you just say, don't come in, and then they do it anyway, what do you do?
Starting point is 00:49:51 You arrest them, and then you deport them. And then say, please don't come back. And then they come back. And you're like, what do you do? At a certain point, we're being attacked. I know. Right? So the cost of either integration or repatriation is extensive for us.
Starting point is 00:50:07 We have to pay for planes. We have to pay for buses. We have to pay for border guards, for police, for places where these people can stay. We have to pay for medical treatment for their children. And they just keep coming. I'm like, we got a serious problem that's not being dealt with. I mean, we got this story right here from NBC News, Biden administration to fill border wall gaps near Yuma, Arizona. Let me just break the story
Starting point is 00:50:31 down for you in a simple tweet from Defiant L's. Corrine Jean-Pierre tweeted in 2019, where are the pesos for your bigoted wall to rail Donald Trump? Today, she says that they're filling major gaps in the border wall because Biden is trying to save lives. These people have no logic. There's no morals. It is just whatever their tribe wants. Meaningless. But I'm curious your thoughts on this. Like, why would the Biden administration be doing anything and filling gaps in the border wall if they're failing us to this degree? I have no idea. Is it like their quota is done? Like, okay, that's all we needed. Close the walls. Well, I mean, the truth is that the issue of illegal immigration has been a football that's been passed back between Republicans and Democrats for years.
Starting point is 00:51:14 And nothing really changes when it goes back and forth. It's always been a disaster. It's always been a massive problem. Honestly, something that's not really recognized is the southern border program that Obama brought in place in 2014 was actually massively successful. He reduced illegal migration from southern America by 70 percent by putting mass funding into checkpoints, walls, patrols down on the Guatemalan border. So there are actually if you look back and forth between republicans and democrats their policies aren't that different the whole thing is just a disaster that they're all terrified to address in a strong confident way because no one wants to be seen as the president that stopped all of the poor refugees or children from coming in whatever the policy will be publicly but they know they can't just have millions of people with no jobs no background checks nothing sitting in texas i figured it out remember that story we were talking about the other day where mexican citizens were
Starting point is 00:52:09 getting angry that americans were coming down and they weren't speaking spanish biden's building the wall to stop americans from escaping he's like no they're trying to get out quick so true gotta bring them in gotta bring them in oh man yeah and it's it the interesting thing is why even if they want immigration for like supposed economic reasons why all from central and south america like there's tons of immigrants from european countries that that would love to come here i mean there's tons of ukrainians that would love to come here so i have my friends who are in europe talk about how difficult it is to get a visa to fly to the U.S. And they say, you know, everyone knows you fly to Mexico, you can walk in and you're fine.
Starting point is 00:52:50 But when you try to do it legally, they make it like impossible. My wife is still going through immigration and it's been since 2017. And you said she's from the Netherlands. Yeah. I mean, that's an EU nation. That should be easy. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:53:01 She speaks perfect English. And she's married to a U.S. citizen. Right. And we have three kids. Yeah. Right. She speaks perfect English. And she's married to a US citizen. Right. And we have three kids. Wow. The cartel offer like full board deals for people that are typically from Asia, Arab countries, a lot of places. You can pay like 50 grand to get trafficked through Mexico into the US as someone that
Starting point is 00:53:23 has money that just doesn't want to wait for the official system. I was meeting Nigerians in Reynosa that were like, actually, I'm just walking up to Canada. This is just easier than applying for a visa. I'm visiting a friend in Nova Scotia, is what one guy told me. And he figured he'd take the route through Mexico and through the US instead of just waiting on a visa because it was easier. It's just crazy. Didn't you? You were looking at Americans who were fleeing into Canada. Americans fleeing into Canada?
Starting point is 00:53:51 Yeah, didn't you go up and track that story or something? Oh, Haitians. That was a while back. Yeah, there were Haitians walking through Roxham Road up into Quebec, I believe, that felt they were going to get deported by Trump after their refugee status had gone up and they were going to get deported by Trump after their refugee status had gone up and they were going to get sent back to Haiti. We opened our whole stadium there for
Starting point is 00:54:10 them. And it was wild because you could literally just take a taxi to this suburban neighborhood, walk across this pathway, and the Canadian police were sitting there and they'd pick up your luggage for you and just walk you down to the stadium and give you a bed. We have no borders. It's all a joke. And's no, we have no borders. It's all a joke. And I don't blame any migrant for coming in illegally when this is what they watch on the news. It's like, okay, I guess this is how your system works. Your cops are literally waiting there for us with buses and we'll take our luggage for
Starting point is 00:54:36 us. And this happens in Texas too. They've got buses ready to transport them. They're like, come on in, whatever. What would they have done in 1960 if this was happening? We had very different immigration in 1960 like it wasn't you know we didn't have the mass welfare state states that we do now right if you came in it was like you're working or you're dying so we didn't have so many people that didn't have jobs and didn't have support systems migrating it
Starting point is 00:55:01 was people that were ready to come in and die or work. Right? But now they're getting unemployment or like... Now that we've got massive support systems, the immigration is very different. Okay. What if we built huge treadmills or, you know... Yeah. No, better yet, platforms that when you step on them,
Starting point is 00:55:24 it spins a gear which generates power. So when all of these people are illegally crossing the border, they're all trampling these things, pushing these boxes down, generating electricity, and powering our grid. Sounds like slavery with extra steps, bud. A lot of extra steps that we do.
Starting point is 00:55:40 But hear them out. Hear them out. And then if they're planting pollinator flowers to bring the bees back. No, no. What we do is as they cross the border, they get blasted with pollen. So they're running through this field pressing buttons with pollens just pouring off their body. They're the pollinators. And then once they get in, we take them and immediately put them in a pneumatic tube which sends them back to their country.
Starting point is 00:56:10 I can't wait for the Media Matters on this idea back to the tube yes tim makes rick and morty reference they're outraged by it no my point is rather sarcastic as to what the u.s government is actually doing the they're creating second class citizens they're talking about giving ids to these people so they can have benefits. Okay, so they can't vote. They'll struggle to find work, but they'll let them be here to work. Yeah, they're creating serfs. The Democratic Party and their Republican neocon cohorts, they're creating a serf class. Yeah, I'm not for that. Very true. I'm not for that.
Starting point is 00:56:37 I think people should enter legally. They should be treated respectfully. I don't think non-citizens should vote. But if you're a legal resident with the right to work, then congratulations. We can hang out. We can crack beers and then pass your citizenship test. Understand what this country means and why it means what it means. Come and vote, man. We're excited to have you. But just letting anybody come in at any time, nah, man. And when your goal is to reduce racism in society or whatever, which is what many progressives claim their goal is, do you really think that's going to happen when the only, if you're living in a poor, you takes place. And there's no differences in groups of people that come in. It's all just one very low working class, you know, non-integrated group of people. That's like a recipe for disaster
Starting point is 00:57:36 they're creating. And I don't, I hope they realize, I think they realize what they're doing. If they do realize, damn, that's dark. Yeah. The assimilation part is interesting because like, if you, I mean, why do people say New York is so lonely when there's so many people? It's, I mean, like, I wouldn't go so far as to say that's absolutely true. But when you have people in the same neighborhood that for one, maybe can't speak the same language, but they don't belong to the same culture, that right there creates separation in the very same neighborhood. You know, there's something about like that that kind of rips the story apart, that kind of holds together like why is this going to be a good neighborhood at all? You got to be a part of the same story.
Starting point is 00:58:20 And that doesn't seem like that's a care for any of any of the immigrants. It's it doesn't seem like, you know, come in and as you were saying, understand what this, you know, nation is or what bonds us together, regardless of the nation, like what bonds us together. And that's what my she was saying, and she saw it, just did not care about the culture or the glue that that connected the people. The Swedish prime minister has come out just a few months ago and said, we are living in two parallel societies. And this is a left wing Swedish prime minister, not right wing anyways. And she's like, yeah, it's becoming a crisis in our country. These people are not assimilating. They're not getting jobs. They're not speaking the same language.
Starting point is 00:59:10 We've got two countries. They're 30 years too late. Yep. So I went down to Sweden and I was hearing all this rhetoric from people on the right saying that the refugees were creating all this crime. I went there and found, not true actually. Completely not true. I mean, a little bit,
Starting point is 00:59:25 but not really like the narrative of migrant refugees, burning cars and stuff. Some of those things were happening. The reality was the children, Swedish citizens, descendants of Somali migrants from the 90s were are the cause of a lot of are there are the ones perpetrating a lot of the crime. The reason was when the Somali refugees and migrants came to Sweden in the 90s, they said, just put them all in one place and forget about them. So these people had no incentive to learn the language and no ability to get jobs because Swedes are extremely racist. It is like everything you think about woke, you know, wokeism, Sweden.
Starting point is 01:00:02 They claim to be for diversity, but they're extremely racist. So these are the kind of people that will be like, oh yeah, you know, racism is so wrong. And then it's like, here's a migrant. Don't bring that person near me. So what they did was they put all the Somali migrants in places like Rinkeby is one place I think it was, where a lot of Somali people end up living. They have kids. Those kids are raised by people of Somali descent. They're treated by Swedish, by other people in Sweden, by native Swedes as immigrants, even though they were born there, speak the language and are citizens. They go home to visit their families on their parents' side in Somalia, and they're called Swedish.
Starting point is 01:00:43 They're not called, so they have no country country so what happens when the police come into their neighborhoods they say you are not a part of our society at all you are just people in a van as far as we are concerned you can't do anything here so we actually had this was like one of the most contentious moments when we had cops tell us they start throwing stones at us what can we do we just leave that happened to us in paris years and years ago do you remember when we were in that no-go zone in paris and the cops told us like if something happens you're on your own when which one was this was that was are you sure i was you were there i'm pretty sure you were there oh wait wait wait wait there were riots going on yeah remember we left you in the falafel store to die i remember those there's like a big there were big protests and we couldn't get back to the to
Starting point is 01:01:27 the airbnb or whatever something like that yeah they started yelling at us that they were going to kill us and our translator said that and we were like where's tim when we were going to find our car and you were in the falafel store that's all i remember like that was me absolutely sure i did a video on it really shout out to fal to Falafel. And you were like, forget Tim. We need to go. For real. Maybe I need to watch the video to remember. It was years ago. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:55 I do remember in France, like, there were big protests and the trains were blocked off and the cops wouldn't let anyone through and stuff like that. We went to a few. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Northern parts of France. I think I remember this. There was, like, a lot of crime. There were shootings and locals were, like, yeah. Northern parts of France. I think I remember this. There was like a lot of crime. There were shootings and locals were like scared.
Starting point is 01:02:08 I remember when I went to Sweden the first time, this guy was scared to drive in certain neighborhoods because he was just like these neighborhoods have become like their own. You know, they colloquially call them no-go zones. And then the media was like, there's no such thing as a no-go zone. And you look at the definition and it's like a no-go zone is an area where, you know, there's like high crime or police tell you to avoid. And like you either can't go there. You're told to avoid going there. And so in these areas, like you actually had Swedish police issue statements saying like these are high crime areas. But then deny that they were in any way no-go zone.
Starting point is 01:02:40 And I'm like, my attitude was, I don't care what they're officially. The locals just refer to them that way. And the cops, too. The cops will say it, too. They're like, this is a no-go zone, just so you know. Oh, but those don't exist, by the way. Yeah, exactly. Just don't say that publicly.
Starting point is 01:02:53 How does it compare to a favela? To which? I think favelas are awesome. Because, I mean, at least when I was in Brazil, favelas were just like shantytowns, you know, in Brazil. Regular people living regular lives. They're just poorer. And so the crazy thing was how people built houses on top of and through other people's houses. So like we went to one house where they have a neighbor.
Starting point is 01:03:15 The neighbor one day just climbed up on top of the roofs and started building another house. To get to it, they have to go through the house. Nobody cares. I was like, wow, that's kind of crazy. I haven't seen that, but I've been to some favelas that i would never go back to what is a favela it means shantytown yeah like in brazil it's it's is it supposed to be like a dangerous area is that yeah and it's it's definitely the lowest economic areas and sometimes they're right next to like a high economic area those are the most dangerous when there's like a contrast. If you go to super poor areas
Starting point is 01:03:45 in the world where there's no contrast, there's no like jealousy or like trying to strive for that wealth or whatever. People are perfectly content. It's when there's that like developing societies
Starting point is 01:03:54 are really rough. I don't know, man. I mean, maybe they're dangerous, but maybe because I'm from Chicago, I just didn't feel that way to me. I mean, literally. Could be. Because, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:04 they say Chicago's got more gun deaths than iraq going to bed at night in the city and then hearing gunshots in the distance is just something you grew up with have like someone pulling out a gun at my local high school fight breaks out and some dude pulls out a gun it's just like i'm in i'm in the favelas in brazil and it's like a dude with like an open fire just grilling chicken and we're like this is cool They're like playing music and people were just chilling and I was like, I don't know. Have you seen City of God? No. It's all about the favelas.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Really, really good story. But it's about how like the children gangs, gangs that were literally like kids from maybe four or five years old all the way up to like 15 with guns were like running some of these favelas. You know what you got to understand though, is that most people aren't insane. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know about that one, but no,
Starting point is 01:04:51 I mean, there are insane people, but I typically find in, in my, my travels having covered, you know, conflict crisis being in these, like being in anarchist districts and like Turkey is that their goal,
Starting point is 01:05:05 there there's a goal. There's an idea. There's like like you can see what they're doing and why they're doing it they're not the joker so like when i'm in the favelas they're like here is likely what's going to happen like if someone wants to steal from you they're going to take your stuff i was i was warned when i was in venezuela they were like when you get express kidnapped in venezuela they'll give you a ride anywhere you want to go. Like their goal is to take your money, not to destroy your life for the most part. So one guy told me a story where he was like – he went to an ATM machine and as soon as he walked up, a guy walked up to him and said, you know, take your money out and then not get in the car. They're driving in the car and they're like – there's a guy pointing a gun and he's like, give me your wallet.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Give me your stuff. Give me your phone. Give me all your cash. Where can we drop you off? And he's like, oh, you can. Give me your stuff. Give me your phone. Give me all your cash. Where can we drop you off? And he's like, oh, you can drop me off here. And like it was like a 20 minute drive. And then they like drove him there like, all right, man, have a go on. He was like, all right, bye.
Starting point is 01:05:53 That's nice of them. Well, because like there are bad people. Some of these people will kill you. But if you look at some of these videos out of Brazil, you see them so often where someone's robbing a store and they get shot and killed. You may notice like in these videos, the dude robbing is not prepared to shoot anyone. Like, have you seen these videos? I think I know the idea you're talking about. Tons of them.
Starting point is 01:06:14 Yeah. A guy will walk into a store and then he'll pull out a gun and start pointing and then everyone just unloads on him. The dude will try and run away because they were threatening these people but not really prepared to actually do it. But when you point a gun at someone, they're prepared these people but not really prepared to actually do it. But when you point a gun at someone, they're prepared to defend their own lives. This is the issue. These people, they're doing these robberies.
Starting point is 01:06:34 They're not actually prepared to hurt an innocent person. But these people with the guns aren't innocent. So those people are. My point is, in my experience having been to a lot of countries, if you just try and understand the people and their motivations you're typically fine that's a really good point i think the people you have to be the most scared of are it's the classic thing the people who have nothing left to lose like you never get in a fight with a crackhead you're gonna lose every time or at least they're gonna gouge your eyes out or something before or like you look at like the situation where those two girls were beheaded in morocco in the mountains by these migrants who had been sitting there for years trying to get over the into suedo maria milia over the fences and they just they can't go back don't have enough money destroyed their
Starting point is 01:07:13 passports can't go forward nothing left to lose let's chop these girls heads off after assaulting them like geez those are the scary but you're right if people have motivations that you can identify you might be fine right but that also means like when you're right. If people have motivations that you can identify, you might be fine. Right. But that also means like when you're seeing someone, when you see ISIS, you're like, I know their motivations run. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:31 Yeah. Yeah. Like the average person. So my point is like, you're, you're going to a Fafela. The average motivation of a person is I'm going to get food for my family. I'm going to get nice clothes and try and just live. So then when they come up to you and they threaten you, it's like, if you just give them your stuff, they're going to leave you alone. Or you can figure out, you know,
Starting point is 01:07:49 are they really prepared to fight with you? And if typically you see this in the United States too, they did this study. They got a bunch of convicted criminals who had committed armed robberies, showed them videos of people walking and asked them who would they choose to target. Turns out like over 80% of the time, the people they chose had been robbed before. There was something about the way people carried themselves that made them look weaker and susceptible. So that's, you can understand these things. For the most part, when I would go to like the favelas, you know that almost all people don't want trouble.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Like a fox, for instance, will not come onto our property when the dog's around, unless the fox is starving and it has no choice. And that's the issue. So most people, like when you, when you come across someone who's like desperate, they might, you know, not want to destroy you, but they'll take your stuff. The real scary thing is ideologues. Cause you know, they want to destroy you because those people are crazy. They're depending on where you are like there was that one uh story about the two people riding their bikes through tajikistan or whatever and then isis just rammed them rammed them and like ran them over or whatever because like you know some places are are dominated by
Starting point is 01:08:59 ideologues and zealots you got to watch out for that i tell you this i would gladly with a smile on my face walk through any favela in brazil going to stores hanging out with people and not worry about it but i would be much much more worried to go to like a protest in new york city where there's leftists you know what i mean yeah i know their motivations the motivations of the left is violence bricks anger and rage. They'll scream in your face. They'll do what they did to Andy Ngo. In the favela, it's people that want to sell you a cheeseburger, man.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Cheeseburger might have worms in it, depending on who you're getting it cooked from. No one there wants to be known on the internet as the guy who threw a brick at Tim Pool's head. Like, it doesn't – they don't care. In the favelas. Yeah. Yeah. Whereas New York, there's probably a few of those. You know what's really messed up, though, is the favela tours they started doing a while
Starting point is 01:09:51 ago, where rich tourists will get on buses and drive through poor neighborhoods as a tourist attraction. That's disgusting. That is. Super nasty. Geez, I feel like I'm looking at images of favelas, thinking about how cool they look. They do. I'm kind of like that guy taking a tour right now, but you pull up an image.
Starting point is 01:10:08 He's just doing it on the internet. It's a spectacular imagery to see the way they build these houses and these communities. Well, I mean, they're like not built with any... Yeah, there's probably no structural integrity. There's no building codes and whatever. Getting from building to building is the craziest thing because there's like zigzagging narrow quarters like one human body length wide that's so i went to uh uh uh what was it um what is it called it's uh ciudad do policia i think my portuguese it doesn't it's non-existent they had they had built
Starting point is 01:10:42 a mock favela for trainings for for favelvela policing and combat because the favelas are random. You know, like in the States, it's a grid system we use for most cities. So there's a logic. There's a logic to it. But in favelas, it's like you're going to turn the corner and some guy is going to pop out of a window. That was really fun when I went down there because we climbed on top of their mock favela. And I think it was like eight feet or ten feet. And then I asked the cop and I was like, what do you do when you're up here?
Starting point is 01:11:09 And the guy down – the guy is down there and he's like, huh. And then he jumps down. He's like, just like that. And then I jumped down after him and he was like, whoa. He was like, don't get hurt, man. I'm like, I'm good. And he was actually really surprised I did it because he thought like we do training here. We can handle it.
Starting point is 01:11:22 And I'm like, I've been skating for 20 years. Yeah, you skateboard. I was like, I can jump off a building. I'm good. I bet they're pretty good at parkour. Oh, yeah? No, for real, man. That's why the police needed to build this place, build a mock favela for training because you're trying to chase down a dude who lives there.
Starting point is 01:11:37 Home field advantage? Yeah. Home field advantage. No, but seriously, it's a maze. I'm telling you, I went to one house. To get to the neighbor's house, you had to walk through their kitchen. Like, walk through their house to get to the next house. This is like perfect Assassin's Creed territory.
Starting point is 01:11:51 Yeah. There's jump everywhere, all over the... But they... Well, the crazy thing is the power lines. Yeah. But they've been doing for a while now something called reclamation or pacification, where they've been sending in these like high powered tactical units rifles to just clear out the gangs the gangs were the real government of the favelas yeah because there
Starting point is 01:12:13 was no government so what happens is the gangs they'd call them started to like locals would organize and come up with their own systems of governance that's what what humans do. When the government tried to say like, hey, these people should be paying taxes and we should have control of this, they went in and started rounding these people up, shooting them in many circumstances. It was pretty brutal. Just another gang.
Starting point is 01:12:36 Yep. You know, there's a pretty euphoric way to get mugged. And I think it's like Ecuador and Colombia, they use Toe or scopolamine, where you just like, it's this powder that you can put on a piece of paper and they'll go up to like tourists and they just blow it in their face and it makes you so suggestible that you're like, all right, can you go to the ATM? Can you pull out all the cash that you have and not take me back to your hotel or wherever you stay in? Where are your valuables? And you'll just say it.
Starting point is 01:13:04 You'll give it up. People are shocked. They don't remember. Yeah, they blow it in your face. It's the zombie drug. Yeah. I think it's the strongest nightshade, scopolamine. Scopolamine, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:15 I don't think it comes from- That's a really respectable way to mug someone. Right. That's very nice of you. I'd like to get mugged that way someday. Chemically. If I'm going to get mugged, that's going to be the one I'm going to get. No, I'll do it regardless.
Starting point is 01:13:26 They call it the devil's breath, the scopolamine. Yeah. Some put it in ayahuasca as well. They call it towe, but they make it an admixture of ayahuasca. And then sometimes people get taken advantage of that way. I kind of feel like it's got to be an urban legend, the potency of scopolamine. Maybe. Like these stories of people, someone will like walk up to them at the ATM and then do like the witch doctor thing where they go and blow it in your face.
Starting point is 01:13:57 And then you're like – and they zombify you. That's crazy. Like how does that actually happen? I wonder the same thing about – Oh, it treats motion sickness. Oh, okay. Yeah, it has uses. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Is there... What were you going to say? Well, I was just, like, the... I was just reading this thing in this weird magazine called... Crime. Thought Nachos. Crime. About PCP and, like, leading it, you know, to cannibalism.
Starting point is 01:14:22 PCP leading people into cannibalism. And how many stories came up with that? When I was in Mexico, something really interesting I was told was that, you know all the human sacrifices they did in like, what was it, Mayan culture? The Aztecs. Sorry, the Aztecs, not Mayan. They were telling me that they'd put the people
Starting point is 01:14:39 on like shrooms and tons of different drugs, and they actually wanted to be sacrificed because they thought it was like such a noble, important death. And when they were tons of different drugs, and they actually wanted to be sacrificed because they thought it was such a noble, important death. And when they were on all these drugs, it was actually this beautiful experience. It made people's hearts being eaten a lot more lovely for me, the idea of it. It's romantic.
Starting point is 01:14:56 That's how you ascend. You take DMT until you blast off, sending your spirit into the fourth dimension. Then they sacrifice your body, severing the tether and keeping you trapped in the fourth dimension then they sacrifice your body severing the tether and keeping you trapped in the fourth dimension. You're on another level
Starting point is 01:15:09 right now. Man, I feel like I'm on DMT. So your spirit's already in the other dimension. You don't have to experience the visceral transaction. You're already peacefully there.
Starting point is 01:15:19 And then they kick you down a flight of steps. And your friends eat your heart. That's cute. Yeah, have you guys seen those? What was it?
Starting point is 01:15:24 Apocalypto? Yeah. Yeah, Mel Gibson. Did guys watch vikings i haven't seen it no wasn't that like a thing in vikings too uh where they talk about how it was like a huge honor to be sacrificed to the gods and people would want to get that position it was definitely i mean i don't i don't know how much vikings is like referencing historical information, but I just know that's like a theme. Geez, ancient Lithuanian cults and stuff would do that for sure. What are these pagan religions? They would even take body parts or eat body parts of the conquered peoples.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Well, I guess that's, yeah, this is still a thing today. You have like ISIS members that are like, bam, going to blow my soul up. I just want a Romuva religion. Reading the crime about scopolamine, they don't blow it in your face. They just lace your drink with it. So is there a video of someone getting dosed with scopolamine and then being like, yes, master, or anything like that?
Starting point is 01:16:15 No, it's a rude feed. I'm reading about it. It just makes you delirious and loopy. So you're probably just like, and then they're like, what's your ATM number? And you go, I kind of feel like there's got be a youtuber that's like today i'm gonna get scopolamine well vice vice that one of the very early things was like they got some scopolamine and they were
Starting point is 01:16:36 like whoa and they flush down the toilet they don't touch it i saw that one yeah there was a vice anchor that would go out and do a bunch of drugs is Is it Hannibal? Is that his name? No, it's Hamilton Morris. Hamilton. Hamilton. Hamilton. Hannibal's Pharmacopia. Hamilton's Pharmacopia. Hannibal's the guy who ate people.
Starting point is 01:16:53 Hamilton's like, I'm going to do this for you. And then he would take all these different drugs and be like, now you know what it's like for me to be on drugs. But I mean, that's a lot of great work he did. Wasn't his dad a famous guy? Who was his dad? I can't remember, but you're right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:06 I met him and he really does talk that slow. Oh, cool. Would you ever eat someone like another person? Okay. But like, what would be, name someone and I'll tell you, like there are those people that got in that plane crash that had to eat their friends to stay alive. Would you do that? No doubt. Errol Morris. Okay. So you would eat people. Everyone stay alive. Would you do that? No doubt.
Starting point is 01:17:25 Errol Morris. Okay, so you would eat people. Everyone said no, but you're lying to me. You would eat people. To be perfectly legit, if I had to, to survive, the answer in that situation would probably be yes. Nope. No.
Starting point is 01:17:40 You would have to. No conditions you would eat another person under. Nope. You would just let yourself die? I got kids, man. I just want to point out, there are people who starve for political purposes intentionally. Like, bro, I'm pretty sure it's a choice if you want to eat another person. But if there's no politics involved, if it's just...
Starting point is 01:17:56 Well, okay. What about... Are you talking about living people or dead people that are already frozen? People that are already dead. My point is, there are people right now who are like, I feel so strongly about the birds. I'm not going to eat another chicken until the birds are freed. And then they choose to starve themselves. So my point is –
Starting point is 01:18:13 How many people actually die of that starvation though? Like people who go on hunger strikes? Yeah, they actually like go the whole way instead of doing it for like three days and then, damn, I'm'm gonna go get myself some like expensive vegan food maybe maybe it's easy to say when i am well fed but i don't do not believe there's a circumstance where i would eat a person you know i'd try the breatharian thing it's not survival you get the shakes you get prion disease don't eat the brain no but if you can't even guarantee it you eat the people you get the shakes what do you mean the shakes what is that a thing from from eating another person what is it called encephalopathy or something yes i'm not advocating eating other people here i'm just you know right well the new york the new york times said that article they were like the time for cannibalism
Starting point is 01:18:54 maybe now they were they were writing soylent green eh yeah well they were writing about fiction how like it's become popular cannibalism and fiction my response is like Reza Aslan ate people like he ate a person he got in real big trouble for that and they broadcast it what was it CNN yeah he ate people he ate part of a piece of a brain yeah I don't I meant people in like the
Starting point is 01:19:18 general noun like saying cow you know he ate human piece of a brain is an ecosystem so would he get the he wouldn't get the shakes. When you talk about someone getting the shakes, that's like... I think Reza Aslan may have a mental side effect from eating brain. I think the dude went off. He was this well-respected religious scholar.
Starting point is 01:19:38 And then at some point, he just went nuts. And he advocated for violence with the Covington kids and stuff. He's posted really insane stuff about punching. Like he was the one who said punch the kid's face, something like that. The kid's face is punchable. I kind of feel like either eating the brain did something to him, which I would not be surprised,
Starting point is 01:19:55 or the social ramifications of being a cannibal destroyed him mentally. I get that. That's what I get out of it. And I will always stress this because I know somebody who knew him and I said Reza Aslan's a cannibal and they were like no he's not and i was like he's a cannibal he ate human being and they were like he ate human like one time and i'm like if a dude abuses a kid you know what i mean like are you gonna say he's not a pedo and they're
Starting point is 01:20:19 like well no i'm like he ate a part of a person he's a cann cannibal. Objectively a cannibal. You earned that title, dude. Great conversation. So if someone killed somebody 35 years ago. You're a murderer. Are they still a killer? Yes. Or are they no longer a killer now that they don't kill people anymore? No, you're a killer.
Starting point is 01:20:35 I don't think it's like once you did something, you're always that thing. So I sometimes eat the calluses off my fingers. I'm a guitar player. All right. You're a cannibal. Am I a cannibal? Tell a guitar player. All right. You're a cannibal. Am I a cannibal? Tell me about it. No, you're not a cannibal, dude.
Starting point is 01:20:48 You're constantly swallowing mucus from your sinus or whatever, or you bite your tongue and then some substance. Get out of here. Ooh. Wait. Okay. So wait. This actually brings up an interesting conversation, because I was thinking, okay, the person has
Starting point is 01:21:02 to be dead. And then I was like, wait, no, they don't actually have to be dead because you could like unconsensually eat someone's i could bite his arm right now and i think i'd be a cannibal right but what if he consented to me eating his arm because there's that guy in germany who is the murderer but he got his guy that um he ate he had him consent to it and then he ate him and he went to jail and they did a whole documentary on him but the guy consented to being eating eden then he ate him and he went to jail and they did a whole documentary on him, but the guy consented to being eaten. Was he under duress when he consented? I don't know. He claims
Starting point is 01:21:29 that they were lovers and that the guy loved him so much he wanted to be a part of him. That was his claim when he did the interview. I love where this conversation went. We'll see Lydia. What is the guy's name? Lydia's looking at that grand patrone.
Starting point is 01:21:46 Is there a difference between consensual cannibalism and cannibalism? Are you a worse person? In 50 years, there might be different words for those two things. You know, I firmly believe dogs know if you have ever eaten dog. Because I was reading something about about it how dogs like i was reading about countries where they eat dog and the behavior that dogs have towards people and i'm like if dogs can smell cancer if dogs can smell a seizure before it happens i'm pretty sure a dog can smell that you've eaten dog at least recently or maybe within the past few years or something
Starting point is 01:22:26 but like chickens don't have the sense of smell is that why and cows can they not smell as well as dogs have crazy i think animals are closer to the spirit realm especially dogs and they can absolutely sense things on a level that we can't and things about our soul that's why dogs will like hate certain people and cats too they. Cats, too. They can anticipate your movements. Wild horses. They see things we don't see. I read that if you eat dog, dogs will not trust you. You said wild horses, too? Up in Northern California, my friend's got like 1,000 acres, and there's wild horses all around it, and he's protecting them.
Starting point is 01:22:59 And he said everybody he brings there, if you eat meat, it doesn't even have to be horse meat. If you eat meat at all, the horses won't come near you. Interesting. Well, I mean you can smell it. They say like when the special forces or whatever were training to go in – or I don't know which division. You have to eat local foods because you don't realize how much you smell of the food that you eat. Interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:22 So the horses are probably like, dude, you eat meat, I can tell. You just went to McDonald's, right? And then the vegans walk up and the horse is like, ah, noble vegan. Yeah. I am safe around you as I am a vegan.
Starting point is 01:23:34 Okay, just for reference for the chat, because I'm sure there's so many people interested. The guy's name was Armin Miewis, who is the cannibal in Germany whose victim consented. How do they know he consented though um apparently there was a whole documentary on it okay there's like a contract yeah i think it was like they had like letters back and forth and stuff and they yeah they were was he's like i
Starting point is 01:23:56 want to be in you are you sure you just didn't misread that statement okay wait my wiss appeared in court charged with killing and then frying and eating another man. In one of the most extraordinary trials, the self-confessed cannibal admitted that he had met 43-year-old Berlin engineer Bernard Brandes after advertising on the internet and had chopped him up and eaten him. So I think he put an advertisement on the internet that he wanted to eat someone and the guy responded. What platform? This is what the internet that he wanted to eat someone and the guy responded? What platform?
Starting point is 01:24:26 This is what the internet does to people. Like, normally a guy who wants to be eaten would never find someone who would want to eat him, but now the internet now there's someone for everyone. Now you can swipe until you find the right one. There's going to be an app called Eater. And it's like, I would like to be eaten or I would like to eat
Starting point is 01:24:41 and you're like, no, I don't want to eat him. Ooh, I'd eat her. Oh man, Eaters only. So he was nice about it. Brand has swallowed 20 sleeping tablets and a half a bottle of schnapps before he started... Oh, I don't think I can read this. He was still alive? He started cutting off certain parts of him first and started to fry and eat it. And then after he was bleeding heavily, he took a bath.
Starting point is 01:25:01 He read him a Star Trek novel. And then in the early hours of the morning he finished off his victim stabbing him in the neck and then kissing him yeah the way they call it victim i mean if they started predisposed like they already believe it was uh not consensual chopped him up put several bits of him in the freezer next to a takeaway pizza then buried him in the garden next defrosted and cooked i love that detail right there he read he cut him up ate him while he was still alive and then read him in the garden. Defrosted in Cook's... I love that detail right there. He read... He cut him up,
Starting point is 01:25:26 ate him while he was still alive, and then read him a Star Trek novel. I just... What a novel. But here's the problem. Like, this... I mean, I'm serious about the internet stuff. No, for real.
Starting point is 01:25:35 Normally, somebody who thought they were a giraffe would just sit there in their quiet being like, I think I'm a giraffe. And then they would never act upon it. But now with the internet, they find a bunch of other people who are like, yo, I think I'm a giraffe too. And they're like, let's have a giraffe convention. Then they all get together walking around going, man, eating leaves.
Starting point is 01:25:53 And it's like it's creating communities that normally wouldn't exist. I need more of my throne. I think humans used to be way more racist and willing to slaughter that which they hated and we've become very like accepting for better and for worse because yeah we've become much more tolerant which obviously is fantastic for for a communicative society but at the same time how would those people survive in nature if like they just want to be giraffes all day like how who's going to do the human work see i wonder like who would they be in a in a tribe like you go back thousands of years like who who would they be
Starting point is 01:26:32 dad tribe right the one who thinks they're a giraffe like you know or are they the shaman could they even do they even think that stuff back in the day do you think it's just like a lazy like there's nothing i'm bored with there's no so let's find out let's fantasize it's like the kids who are like when we achieve full communism i'm gonna work at the poetry factory you saw that meme where they're like what are you gonna do when communism is achieved it's like i'm gonna teach people how to grow things on my farm and then someone went your farm yeah yeah they don't they don't get it you You mentioned earlier that the people – we seem to have had a story, like a group story that we're out of touch with now. What do you think that story is? I mean like I love Charles Eisenstein's way of looking at this and he says like there's this old story that it's not like some emperor or some group writes it per se. It kind of is an amalgamation of a group,
Starting point is 01:27:27 you know, an entire group. But over time, it kind of turns into an unwritten credo. And like part of it today, I would say, is that like we're separate from nature, that, you know, you can do anything you want to the environment and it doesn't, you know, come back on you. That like, you know, you can do anything you want to the environment and it doesn't, you know, come back on you. That, like, you know, money can be profane and completely separate.
Starting point is 01:27:50 There's nothing sacred about, you know, any of these things. So, like, in a sense, it's kind of this isolationist, I'm this individual. And the way Charles Eisenstein is talking about it is like this is precisely what we need to get back to is more of the real story that unites us being this thing where there's nothing I can do to the outside world that doesn't eventually have its consequence back at me or in future generations. So I think those are the kinds of stories. It's not like something that you can write down in a preamble to a constitution or something like that. I think it's more of like the amalgamation of what people end up believing under a certain kind of rule, under a certain kind of economy. We talked about the eight types of Greek love a couple nights ago.
Starting point is 01:28:36 You brought it up in the agape, you actually mentioned, is the love of the community. And I think people have fallen maybe in the United States out of touch with it because of this isolationist ease of air condition, internal. But I don't – Well, you get to be separate. You get to look at everything through a screen now, whereas back in the day, you would gauge your threat level by looking into nature. And now everyone is getting the same amygdala-teasing effect by just staring at a screen, but you're safe inside this, supposedly safe inside this little bubble, but you're cut off from your actual community.
Starting point is 01:29:11 We've got to figure something out, us humans, because we developed and evolved based on the natural ecosystem. Like, the simplest thing is sugars are few and far between in nature, so when we find it, we're like, this is amazing, because your your body uses it really quickly and then you don't have it for a long time then we refined it now we have endless supplies of sugar pumped into our bodies poisoning us these things are are one of the biggest threats to like everything that is to be human you know we want to we want to better our lives we want to make a better future for our children. We want to explore, develop, become smarter, and live,
Starting point is 01:29:49 and be happy and healthy. But now it's like we found a way to electrocute our nerve, to stimulate it, and we just got the thing cranked up to 11, and we're sitting there with movies, video games, porn, Mountain Dew, Taco Bell, chocolate ice cream, Ben and Jerry's, whatever you want to call it. And it's just massive overstimulation. And I think it desensitizes people. Cause I'll tell you this, one of the most, we've got the black, like the berry season's almost over, but I talk about wine berries all the time. It is like, they're so delicious when
Starting point is 01:30:21 I don't eat, I don't eat sugar for the most part. So when you get a fresh berry, you're like, whoa, it's so good. And then it's like I tried drinking a sweet tea and it was like drinking syrup. I couldn't drink it. It was disgusting. I think people are completely desensitized to like the amount of garbage they're eating. They're not getting the same. Like this is why people are so depressed too. Once you get everything that can maximize stimulation, there's nothing left. So if your
Starting point is 01:30:45 whole life is pure stimulation, you're at the top. You can't go anywhere. Eventually it just becomes baseline. You're like, life is not good. I had breathing issues. I don't know if it was like a panic attack or something, but I had to go to the hospital once for it because I was like having so much trouble getting air. And I remember the doctor talk. I felt like such a loser because he was like, there's nothing actually wrong with you. Just how you're breathing right now is your lungs are full and you're only going, you can't get anything in. So you're never feeling like you're getting a full breath. And that sounds like exactly what you're describing. Like if you start at the bottom, you're always getting these full breaths every single day. And yeah, you just
Starting point is 01:31:22 don't want to constantly be hitting that peak. How did you work out of that? It was like, I don't know if I feel like such a loser because I thought there was something like severely wrong with me. But yeah, it was like an anxiety thing or something. And I just had to chill for a bit. I've told this story before. A friend of mine who became a millionaire at the age of 16, I think he was like 16, said that in his experience, every person he's ever met who became wealthy had an existential
Starting point is 01:31:44 crisis. For most of these people, they weren't intending to become rich. They developed something, instantly became rich, and then had accomplished their goal and did not have to work anymore. And so that left them sitting there depressed and aimless. Because if their goal was, I'm going to work on this computer program and they just kept improving it over time they'd have to keep working and paying their bills and then finding ways to make money but for the small amount of people who solved the computer problem instantly made 10 15 million dollars now they don't got to work they're like what is my life now i've already accomplished the thing that i'm good at i have money i don't have to work
Starting point is 01:32:24 anymore what do i spend it on everyone else is too busy working. They can't, I'm just, you're outside of the system at that point. There's an interesting thing. There's like two spiritual elements to this that I want to bring up is that one, I bet you those people would be happier if they like woke up to this wealth and then they realized everybody else is free as well. But when you wake up and all of a sudden you're outside of this rat race where you have to you have to like, you know, work your ass off in this dog eat dog world. So you wake up and you're outside of that. You don't have to work anymore. But every one of your friends, you can't solve all their problems for them.
Starting point is 01:33:01 So you're watching them stuck in this machine that you were just in, and it might feel lonely outside of that. And that's actually what they call the bodhisattva in Buddhism and Hinduism, are people who reach nirvana, which is like enlightenment, pure bliss, but they're like, I realize I don't exist for me. So they enter themselves back into the world of suffering so they can help other people. And what you were saying, like breath is a part of every single spiritual tradition. And when you're at the top of your breath all the time, it leads to anxiety. But what does this look like? It's like the bottom of your breath all the time.
Starting point is 01:33:37 People who they're not inhaling and getting that full inhale is more like depression. Everything's lived in the tension, yeah. Yeah. Conflict is a huge part of life that makes life enjoyable. And it's unfortunate that sometimes that conflict is war. But going back to the first thing we're talking about, the decline of an empire, is that when the narrative of God and country wasn't working anymore, your country's falling apart, a country succeeded because people were like,
Starting point is 01:34:05 we are a strong country. We believe in each other. And that, that, that bond, you lose that. There's no, you know, people just conflicted each other. Everything falls apart. But, uh, let's go to super chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. Don't forget, check out timcast.com where we've got a couple shows up now, Tales from the Inverted World. So we have Tales from the Inverted World, which is the serialized long-form show. And we're going to be launching soon the Inverted World podcast, which is Shane Cashman, the author, taking your calls. So we're going to be setting this up soon. We'll have you submit your ghost stories, your spooky stories, your paranormal, your Bigfoot sightings. And then Shane will ask you guys about them. So we'll
Starting point is 01:34:48 schedule calls with regular people, have them phone in. We'll do these episodes. I'll try. We'll try and do them as often as Shane is able to do them. It might be once a week. It's going to be up to him because he's also going to be investigating this other long form stuff for Tales from the Inverted World. But I'm really excited for that show because I just personally love those shows. Like, I don't know if you guys have ever gone on a road trip and just put on the Campfire Ghost Stories shows.
Starting point is 01:35:10 Those are my favorite. Yeah, are you, what was that old, afraid of the, not afraid of the, Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark? Yeah. I was raised on that book
Starting point is 01:35:17 and the audio, like the tape that came with it. I love being on a road trip. It's like 10 p.m. It's dark. And playing on the podcast is like a dude calling in being like, so there I was. I'm in my basement when all of a sudden the water faucet turns on by itself. And I'm like, whoa.
Starting point is 01:35:35 You can hear he believes it, too. I don't know what's wrong with you people. I can't do anything horror. My nightmares are enough for me. Thanks. I'm kind of with you. I'm good on that. Life is terrible.
Starting point is 01:35:44 Paranormal. No. Like, I have such bad nightmares. Like, I'm kind of with you. I'm good on that. Life is terrifying. What about paranormal? No, like I have such bad, I went, I have such bad nightmares. Like I can't do any of that. I get sleep paralysis. I'm like, no, no, no. That's just going to give my mind
Starting point is 01:35:53 more creativity to torment me with. My brother. Thank you. So we went to an antique store and we got a phone from the 1930s. Like one of those old, like you pull the cone off the thing and put it to your operator.
Starting point is 01:36:03 And my brother turned it in. He actually built a mechanism to make it work with like actual bluetooth and play sounds and everything so we're going to use that as like a main prop and then we have a we actually have a haunted house that we're going to be using for the set so i'm super excited but let's read let's read all your super chats all right let's see kepka says so i see people want to bring back the ghost girl i also see it's either uh it it's either Ian is always on or it'll be another summer of love. I for one agree. I don't understand what that means.
Starting point is 01:36:31 Mary Morgan is the host of Pop Culture Crisis and she does frequent this show. So you'll see her periodically. All right, let's see. S says, cheese it. If Lauren is sucking down Pappy in a paper cup i'm bringing mezcal in a mason jar that's right oh so did you put the honey in the in the grand patrone i did how was it is it good it's really strong but yeah it's all right i i can make you one right now make me one i'm gonna go i i do think would you would you guys? Not me. I might, yeah. Tiny, tiny.
Starting point is 01:37:05 Paper cups, boys? Every day. I'll return. It's for the environment. All right, let's grab some more. Oh no, I can't read some of these. Araftis of Stat says, how do I audition for the part of Tim
Starting point is 01:37:19 in the Cast Castle series? You don't? I don't know. So we are going to have in the Cast Castle series. You don't? I don't know. So we are going to have in the Cast Castle show real vlog elements of it. Like Lauren was riding around on an electric motorbike
Starting point is 01:37:32 or something like that. I was. We should have, I still think we should have vlogged whatever this thing, the NAD thing. Oh, the NAD? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:39 We never really do that, I guess, for like security reasons. We never film it. Oh, fair enough. Wait, I'm curious. Who would you have play you? Like what actor would you have play you in a movie about you i don't know you have no idea rock
Starting point is 01:37:50 i don't have no idea i have no idea i don't know i i imagine like there's you know they're gonna make they're gonna make a movie you know how they did the fox news bombshell movie, they're going to make a movie. You know how they did the Fox News bombshell movie? Yeah. They're going to make an indie media one mostly about The Daily Wire, but I'll be like peripherally in it for some reason, and then they'll get like some really awful person to play me. Some like Weasley guy who's like, I'm Tim Polk.
Starting point is 01:38:15 Hey, come on. What about that guy Jesse Pinkman from Breaking Bad, whatever that actor's name is? I don't know. He's in Westworld now. I don't know. Maybe they Westworld now I don't know maybe they have to get Ben Shapiro to play me
Starting point is 01:38:26 because all we would have to do is be a little bit more liberal but we both talk really fast so I think he'd be able to pull it off people liked fast talkers
Starting point is 01:38:35 hey in media everyone's just got a bit of ADHD I can't even watch my videos not on two times speed anymore I have to watch everything on two times speed
Starting point is 01:38:43 internet's making me mentally ill do you edit your own videos? most of them yeah yeah do you edit videos not on two times speed anymore. I have to watch everything on two times speed. Internet's making me mentally ill. Do you edit your own videos? Most of them, yeah. Yeah, do you edit on double time? If I could, I would. That's what I do for my shows. Really? And I notice when I watch them at regular speed,
Starting point is 01:38:58 I'm like, whoa, this sounds like I'm drunk. Yeah, totally. All right. Let's read some more. Doc Toxic says, finally joined TimCast.com and watched the after show. Hearing Ian drop the F-bomb
Starting point is 01:39:08 for the first time made it so worth it. Yes. Huron X Bearcat says, everyone gives Ian too much crap. I don't necessarily agree with him a lot of the time, but Ian brings to light
Starting point is 01:39:19 more dialogue than the entire comment section. Keep it up, Ian. You silly goose. Thanks, dog. The things we don't like. Semantic, the things we do like. Ian has a perspective that is very much outside of the typical culture war and often presents things that no one on the left or right is actually addressing in a certain issue. I like talking about semantics. If we agree beforehand,
Starting point is 01:39:42 let's discuss a word, what it means, what it used to mean, what it could mean, that kind of stuff. But using it in the middle of a discussion is kind of underhanded. Yeah, when it feels circular. Thank you. All right. It's very strong. Just look out. Hank Hokage Hill says, why don't you use Rumble?
Starting point is 01:39:58 You promote it a lot. It would get a lot of people to sign up and overall get more people off YouTube. Love you guys. I'm working on it. We use Rumble for – we put everything on Rumble that we put everywhere else. I don't think the full VOD version of this goes on Rumble, though, unless we have to move it over. And the issue is – I've explained it a bit. It's simple.
Starting point is 01:40:17 Before I mention it, I'll also read StoryManJack who says, Tim is a coward. Calls for us to quit our jobs in protest but jumps like an apoplectic toad when YouTube grunts. Hypocrisy much? No, no. My point is, as it's always been, for one, I respect your opinion if you think that's the case. I will stand by saying YouTube is the biggest platform. I do not think it makes sense for large and prominent personalities to retreat from the central battlefield of ideas for some principled reason. I agree with principled reasons if it's like you work for a company and they're doing something really bad. And you're like, I don't want to do that thing for you.
Starting point is 01:40:57 On YouTube, we're doing the opposite of bad thing. We are calling out bad thing. We're calling out the problems and we're using the most powerful and prominent platform to, one, address those issues and then also create a pathway to alternates. We shout out the Daily Wire frequently because I think what they're doing is equally as important, creating alternate paths. We shout out Parallel Economy. We use them. We use Rumble infrastructure.
Starting point is 01:41:22 My point is, when I say don't cancel your Disney or Netflix, if you really want to go ahead, I don't expect people to abandon the establishment machine where it provides for them in certain ways. We have to create a machine that does better. So simply put when, when Jordan Peterson got suspended on Twitter, I said, I think he should delete the tweet and then go after Twitter on their own platform and use it to the best of his abilities. I don't think you accomplish much by, you know, it would be like being in a battlefield, taking some casualties and then being like, all right, that's it. We've got everybody retreat. There's no point in being here. Or do you pull a Mel Gibson, grab the flag and go, no, no, no, keep going, keep going, keep going.
Starting point is 01:42:06 It's not perfect. There's no simple solutions. If you can work at a company that's doing bad things, but you are completely able to push back and reverse that, then you shouldn't quit. You're having a positive impact. So this is what I think is important. Maximizing central battlefield to the best of our abilities so that YouTube continually promotes these conversations to regular people. And then we can create paths to a whole bunch of personalities. To put it even more simply,
Starting point is 01:42:34 you may not like that we use YouTube, but how else do we get the likes of Alex Jones and Steve Bannon in front of regular people when they've been banned? We still have an ability for regular people to see things. Who was it that made that super chat? What was his name?
Starting point is 01:42:46 Storyman Jack. Shout out, Storyman. Apopleptic toad. Is that the word? The metaphor? I like it. But I will also say, I will read your comments if you think I'm wrong. Because I think that's what actually makes the show good.
Starting point is 01:43:02 So feel free to throw shade my way, and I'll give you my thoughts on it. And far from perfect. Battlefield retreat's a cool conversation because sometimes you do want to retreat from a battle, even one maybe that you're winning, because you can pull the enemy into an ambush. Sometimes when you start to take fire, you cannot retreat. You have to keep pushing, otherwise your whole unit's going to get wiped out. I legit tried.
Starting point is 01:43:24 I hit up my ad agency and said, we want a big Times Square billboard saying Twitter protects pedophiles. And they said, no, they said it can't in any way be related to that concept. And I was like, okay, well, we'll figure something else out. I would, cause I would have loved to do that. That's the kind of thing that, that I want. I want to, I want to buck the system using, I want, I want to be in their their faces i want people in time square to see us next to coca-cola that's the point we are telling them you are not the elites anymore we are displacing them and we are doing what we can to make that a
Starting point is 01:43:55 reality i just want to say one thing about that that's like you know using the system to buck the system rather than trying to recreate an alternative system to buck that system. It's a little bit of both. Well, yeah, but I mean like still using the tool there. It's like taking the thing apart from the inside, which is how any nation or anything else kind of collapses. It's usually not just outer forces. You use the mechanism itself i just think um it is it is a complicated culture war it is yeah it's like if you armed a slave rebellion with weapons from the very empire it's
Starting point is 01:44:35 rebelling against you know they still the they're empirical weapons but the slaves will use them to overthrow the empire i just think you know i i have to wonder you know it's like there's a lot of people who want us all to work for free and i'm like it's a weird concept to have people who identify as like capitalists to be like but you should give me free stuff you know what i mean like we we do most of the stuff we make is free yeah but it requires energy and time that's not free so it's a free product for the person most like anybody can watch this show completely for free you know what i mean as long as you have an internet connection yeah well yeah i mean like we are not charging people to watch this live show this is yeah this is a problem
Starting point is 01:45:14 i've run into i put every single one of my documentaries i've done out for free but then every time i want to make a new documentary it's always i have to it takes forever to try to fund again it's a whole challenge and i don't know if i can make another one next time so yeah being able to fund your work makes it continually possible but you have to charge something like it's there's something we pointed out the membership yesterday i think is important for people to understand as well right now we have 30 about 32 000 concurrent viewers and we are streaming at 6,200 kilobits per second. Multiply that by 32,000 and that's how much kilobits is going down. That bandwidth cost is insane. YouTube's giving that
Starting point is 01:45:55 to us for free. This is what people need to understand. We would not be able to do this show without free service. Rumble does offer free service. But my thing is, can we build up Rumble's audience by telling people on YouTube about Rumble? Or do we just stop informing the largest platform? There's no simple answer. Not everyone's going to be happy, I guess. Let's read some more.
Starting point is 01:46:19 All right. Razio says, I swore myself never to do another Super Chat to save money, but this is important. Tim, Lydia, I implore myself never to do another Super Chat to save money, but this is important. Tim, Lydia, I implore you to get Michael Yan on the show. He was on J.B.P.'s podcast. He went into detail of what's in store this fall.
Starting point is 01:46:34 A caveat, one billion deaths by 2025. Uh-oh. Stuart just inhaled a little bit of a... It's a bit strong. It's a little strong. It's good for your brachial tract. Oh, no. He inhaled the fancy drink Lauren made. It's going to slowly work it out of your vocal cords now.
Starting point is 01:46:51 I feel better. Aspiration. I felt like doing that the first sip I took, too. It's funny that they call it aspiration when you breathe in liquids, but they also call being in spot. No, aspiration is like a thing you can have. Aspirational, yeah. Aspergers.
Starting point is 01:47:07 Triton says, I am now a believer in Tim's fifth-generational warfare hypothesis. It's obvious that the CCP is attempting to win the hearts and minds of 75 million Americans. Long live Chicken Ian. You guys saw the Wikipedia change in the definition of recession? I didn't see what they changed. It wasn't that Wikipedia did it. It's that there was an edit battle between people over what recession was and then with some higher ranking wikipedia person
Starting point is 01:47:30 locked it so you couldn't change it anymore that is the fifth generational warfare that there's a there's a battle over reality and they're changing definitions literally miriam webster changed the definition of female to be the opposite of male. Like, it's not even a definition. Or true. Yeah, if there's no definition of male, then what does the opposite of male mean? Yeah, what? We need to tell Matt Walsh to make what is a man. I think that, is it not?
Starting point is 01:47:59 Okay, I think it's kind of obvious that there is a recession happening right now. And you don't have to wait to be told. Like, just live your life accordingly. But Pelosi doesn't agree. Oh, she doesn't. No. Okay. Zach Dar says the guests were so low energy. The show already sucked to Tim loves to tell everyone how they're supposed to take a stand
Starting point is 01:48:14 while always bending the knee to YouTube and giving excuses. You know what, man? Like, I think if anybody spent one day trying to run this company, they would be like, you're an insane person. You should quit. This is nuts. Why would you do this? Like, I don't think people understand what it takes to make all of this possible. And so, you know, look, I'll read your comments and I'll read your criticisms. I respect that. But I think that the challenge is people don't see what it's like to, you know, wake up at 7am and work until midnight,
Starting point is 01:48:46 Monday through Friday. And then on weekends, that's when I get to go to the bank and file paperwork and drop off checks. So it's just like, it's sometimes, you know, what's the point is the question, right? If you're going to get this many people who are like, you should be giving us the content for free. You shouldn't expect us to pay for it. You're bending the knee.
Starting point is 01:49:06 We don't respect your strategies. And I'm just like, then why am I fighting for you? Yeah, I mean, anytime you get criticism, it's like, hey, this person that I'm not lifting a finger to be involved with is doing something I don't like. Like, okay, do it then, dude. But the reality is, like, do it yourself. Obviously, there are far few haters than there are people who support the work we're doing. For sure. And I wonder what a high energy guest would be.
Starting point is 01:49:30 We're not doing enough jumping jacks. They're not talking about tonight. They're talking about you. We got them last night. I could tell you thought they're talking about you. And we took it personally. I was about to start doing calisthenics. Do you want to fight?
Starting point is 01:49:43 Do you want to fight? Arm wrestling? All right. Let's see see let's grab some more super chats l says lauren i watched the whole truth and i was honestly blown away my question to you is if you can stay out of the hot seat could there be more about the stars of the right that you interacted with that you'll put out um the the whole truth wasn't about like exposing people's like personal problems or this person did that drug or this person slept with that hooker. It was literally just about the situations I encountered that kind of led me to be blackpilled about politics. And then realizing it wasn't really about this whole movement, realizing, you know, people are flawed, and you can't put your faith in man, you can't put it in these
Starting point is 01:50:24 other people, you have to put it in the ideas. You can't put it in these other people. You have to put it in the ideas. You have to put it in God, something bigger than yourself. So it was just kind of my political journey. It wasn't about exposing the stars of the right. That just was something that were experiences I had. So I don't want it to be about who were the good guys and the bad guys. Everyone loves a bit of juicy gossip, of course, but that wasn't the point of the video. But I'm glad you liked it. I appreciate that. Also, one thing I've always made a bit of juicy gossip, of course, but that wasn't the point of the video. But I'm glad you liked it. I appreciate that. Also, one thing I've always made a point of is, Tim, I didn't talk about you in the whole truth at all because you were just a damn hard worker the whole time. Like you were just saying, you worked freaking harder than anyone I knew during that 2016 to now period.
Starting point is 01:50:59 You're one of the few people. Okay, simping too hard. But yeah, I think you earned it all. I think you earned it all. I don't know i mean like when whenever there was like a big story we like i'm gonna cover the same story you were gonna cover like there was a similar beat but i don't think when it came to like working i think the reason you had stuff to talk about with other people is that you worked with them we never really like yeah we were in like the same area i was talking about this when
Starting point is 01:51:23 you like your whole job is traveling the world and you're like 20 it's hard to make a community so you just kind of have these people that you brush shoulders with that are in the same area all the time right it's like oh there's a riot i'm gonna go there and then you're there and yeah yeah um but yeah i definitely was more working with this kind of dissident right that existed and you kind of escaped a lot of that drama because you were doing your own thing. You truly were independent of these movements at that time. We got the quartering. He says, thanks for faking the issue last night so I could grift
Starting point is 01:51:51 like a maniac and thanks to your viewers who tuned in. Everything is back to normal now. Sips delicious non-descript drink. Jeremy, we have an event coming up that we're planning in Austin and we should definitely get a bunch of coffee brand coffee to serve at the event. That would be really great. Please send me some to the house or
Starting point is 01:52:11 something because I want to drink it. We should figure something out so it's like all of the attendees. So I'm not going to say too much because I don't want to generate a hot seat for anybody. But there's someone I know who's got like a burger shop in Austin. We're going to have them provide the burgers if possible. And then we're planning a live IRL event. When is it? I don't want to say just yet because we're still planning. But the idea is we would do the show on stage live for an extended period. The speakers would be rotating guests who would come in for about like an hour and then leave.
Starting point is 01:52:44 And then we would do like a really long show for like five hours. So we'll have coffee on stage. Wait, did you say there's a barbecue? And then, no, the idea is to bring in like give everyone burgers. Okay.
Starting point is 01:52:52 Because it's like going to be a long event. If there's burgers. Yeah. People will come. And then we could have coffee brand coffee there. Are there coffee brand
Starting point is 01:52:58 coffee Keurig pods yet? Make them. You know what we should do? We should get Krigler coffee and coffee brand coffee. And then, you know, people can choose which one they prefer. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 01:53:07 We'll set up a few Keurigs on the stage. Maybe get a coffee pot in case you want to brew some fresh beans. A French press. You know what I love in Brazil? They have these things, the pau de queijo. You ever have those? Yeah. They're so good.
Starting point is 01:53:20 Yeah. Cheesy bread. Yeah. It's like bread with cheese in it. They bake it. So it's like the bread has cheese in it. It's not like the bread you open and you can see cheese. No, the cheese is part of the flour.
Starting point is 01:53:34 That's nice. My wife tried to redo it with phyllo dough. It's a weird recipe, too, the way they make it. It's phyllo dough. Phyllo dough is kind of like croissants. It comes apart in flakes. Oh, yeah. I'm loving all of the super chats about Bucko.
Starting point is 01:53:49 He was sitting on my lap. He's still out there. We gave him the boot. He's right outside the door waiting. Are you sure? Yeah, he was when I went out there. Curled up. He wanted to come in here.
Starting point is 01:53:58 I mean, he wants to be on the show now. I think he really liked it. He came in here during the member-only episode once, and everybody loved him so much. He's probably like, ooh, this is nice. We've been bonding. He's like, I don't know what's going on here, but everyone keeps loving me. David Setliff says, treats for the BuckoCast IRL. Bucko, you're a superstar.
Starting point is 01:54:15 That's right. That's right. All right. Let's grab some more super chats. A lot of people pointing out states can't deport people we have um l galoo card or lg aloo card says states can't deport people only feds can convincing reality says tim immigration is a federal issue states cannot deport people out of the country this is 100 the right move but can the feds give the states that i agree i agree like deputize them well i don't know but if
Starting point is 01:54:42 they can't then you are i stand corrected and it is the right move to send them to D.C. and New York. Like, let them deal with the issue. The only problem is they're not going to deport anybody. They're just like, okay, fine. Well, it's almost better keeping them in states where you're going to have judges that are, you know, not going to be so biased towards progressivism. What if they sent them to Alaska, but then the bus got lost halfway up through Canada? Uh-oh. That would suck it's like hey got on this bus to dc and the driver's going like whoops i accidentally turned towards mexico
Starting point is 01:55:10 all right liam madden says vermont's very close election means your support makes a huge difference to elect congress's first anti-two-party pro-second amendment economically populist usmc vet who led usa's largest anti-war organization of Iraq vets. Check out, oh, I think, check out Liam Madden. Learn more at rebirthdemocracy.com. Good luck, man. I'm hearing that they're saying New Hampshire might go Democrat for the Senate. And I'm like, that's crazy to me. All those free staters up there in Vermont would go Democrat? You got people with flamethrowers up there. They're going to vote to ban their own flamethrowers?
Starting point is 01:55:47 There's just not enough free staters in New Hampshire, man. Okay. Let's see. Grab some super jets. Linda Tarleton says, First live and first day as a Timcast member. What is it? Sham? S-A-H-M for IRL.
Starting point is 01:56:07 What is that? I don't know what that is. But thank you for being a member. All right, let's see. Lior Engelstein says, Tim, you reported fake news yesterday. At around 12 minutes in your China video, you said that Biden had a two hour long conversation
Starting point is 01:56:21 with China. How are we supposed to believe he was cognizant for that long? That's a fair point. Like he's like, she, it's Joe Biden. And then she is like, starts talking. I have many things to say to you, Joe. And then just like, and then she just talks for two hours yelling at Biden.
Starting point is 01:56:39 And then like, finally, like, oh yeah. Okay. I don't think Biden was cognizant. Do you see that uh that that video where it's like every every sentence is it's cut i swear that's a deep fake did you see it yet no i didn't have you seen it it's honestly every biden i haven't watched a biden video that isn't you know atrocious to this point so like everyone keeps coming out with all these articles they're like oh look how funny biden is. And I'm like, okay.
Starting point is 01:57:06 That's a Tuesday? We're still laughing at this? It's a 15-second video of four or five different four-second clips or something like that. And his eyes are really round and black. And they don't blink or move. And his voice sounds deep. It just seems like a deep fake. Benny Johnson posted something where there's there's two
Starting point is 01:57:25 biden's one buggy-eyed biden and the other one's sleepy joe i think the i just think they're at different times from that video i think they just pre-recorded some of them you know what i mean like early in the morning with his morning voice i think the camel ones are funnier where she's like repeatedly going over the exact same concept what was was the... The predictive text generator? Yeah, yeah. She just keeps saying the same thing over and over again in different creative ways. And I'm like,
Starting point is 01:57:49 holy, you're bad at this, Caroline. You're supposed to be the cognizant one. Bad at it. I mean, it seems to be working to a certain degree. They're 30-something percent approval rating. Keep them confused. Keep them running in circles.
Starting point is 01:57:59 She is AI. All right. Chrome Leader says, as a Texan, I agree that what our governor is doing is not the best tactic, but our hands have been tied. At this point, it's malicious compliance. Fair point. Fair point.
Starting point is 01:58:12 All right. The KL Tanker says Congress should have to pass a test on the bill, get a 85% or better than they can vote on it. You know, it is a good idea. get a 85% or better, then they can vote on it. That's so good. It is a good idea, but the problem is I think the system has become too cumbersome. The issue is when you had 35,000 people per district, they could go in and actually argue over a bill. Now it's 775,000 people per district,
Starting point is 01:58:45 and it's just people screaming at each other, totally disparate cultures no agreement anything the more i think about that like if i can fail a math test in grade five and get held back a year you should be able to fail the most important job in the country if you can't pass a test on what you do come on like yeah i i'm fully an advocate of of hitting with a felony if they don't. But like, how do you guarantee they read the bill? I don't know. I don't know if that's the issue. Yeah, just like a really quick quiz.
Starting point is 01:59:10 I've always thought about this for voting, too. Like a really quick quiz that's just like, hey, what is a Democrat and Republican? Even just like an ABCD test. What are the candidates on your ballot that you're voting for? And you just you put a few fake ones in there that are like Mr. Magoo or whatever. And if someone guesses that their vote doesn't count because they don't even know who the hell they're voting for. What are you talking about for voters? Both are politicians and voters.
Starting point is 01:59:35 Like there are so many things we could do to improve the system. I understand how it would be like, I mean, you're denying the right to vote for idiots, but I'm in favor of that. Let's read some more. We got Manifested Destiny says, Tim, please give a shout out to Eastern Kentucky. The floods have currently killed 20 people and it's expected to rise. Appalachian people had very little and they lost what they had. They need help. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:59:59 Sad to hear it. This is brutal stuff. Floods are serious. And additionally, Las Vegas. Now, this is crazy. Vegas flooding? That freaked me out. Likeods are serious. Nice. And additionally, Las Vegas. Yeah. Now, this is crazy. Vegas flooding? That freaked me out. Like, it's a desert.
Starting point is 02:00:08 You think there's, like, conspiracy to change the weather and screw other countries over by flooding them? Conspiracy. There is a group of people screaming that the climate is changing. Harp. I'm talking, like... Well, no, like, can't the government... High altitude.
Starting point is 02:00:20 What is... Is cloud seeding? Is that what they call it? Where they can actually, like actually change the weather a bit? Cloud seeding is real. Yeah. Silver iodide. Or not even.
Starting point is 02:00:28 They use lasers now. Yeah. Wilhelm Reich was working on that in what? The 40s? 50s? Oh, my gosh. That's 80-year-old technology. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 02:00:37 I think it's so cool. We could attack other countries with hurricanes. Yeah, I hear. That's what people are telling me is that you can move hurricanes with water. I want to read this one from CJDN. He says, Tim, your moral compass is on point and your head is on straight. I don't know about your guests, though. Well, they're doing all right.
Starting point is 02:00:52 But I was like, I did read some disparaging comments about me. I don't want to only be disparaging. Someone, you know, give me some credit. I don't think they're talking about you guys, by the way. I could be wrong. No, they're talking about me. I know. This is important.
Starting point is 02:01:05 Sarah M. says, Will of the People is on my repeat playlist perfect song would love to hear a cover of the mariners revenge song i feel like you would do it well we have like 30 of a music video done the song we're going to be releasing first is called only ever wanted And it is Carter, our music producer, just hit this one. It's a home run for sure. I was shocked when I heard it because I write songs like typically write an acoustic guitar and it's like folk rock acoustic. And then he took it. The song is weirdly mostly backwards, like the instrumentation. And he made this really amazing song. So we're going to be releasing that. We've got a couple other So we're going to be releasing that. We've got a couple other songs we're going to be releasing as well.
Starting point is 02:01:49 We should have an album coming out August 21st. I think it will have eight or nine songs on it. We do have like 30 or 40 in the pipeline. But in this day and age, I don't know if that makes sense anymore. Releasing albums. We were actually thinking of just like putting out singles when they were ready. And then I was like, well, maybe we'll do that anyway. But we're gonna have uh only ever wanted out really soon i think maybe even in like could be in a week or two
Starting point is 02:02:11 no it's gonna be i think in like two or three weeks because we're finishing the music video uh not this weekend but the next weekend and so that's gonna be really cool i like the idea of doing a song every time it's ready and then when the ninth song is done you release an album with all nine songs on it we could do that i was just gonna say what some music groups are doing is they'll record they'll they'll release like six or seven singles and then have a little grace period and then an album with like 10 or 11 songs new ones yeah well i mean 10 or 11 songs including that original six so you you put out the ones as they're coming out and then you release a full album with a few more extra songs
Starting point is 02:02:50 yeah tool took like 17 years to put out their newest album same with the perfect circle oh i gotta read this one we read the uh liam madden super chat someone responded exactly says the liam liam madden madden guy supports red flag laws, abortion, and expanded gun control. Vermonters, please don't vote for him. Ooh, it's getting spicy in the super chat. Alright, last one from Iris with a I will give you a preliminary.
Starting point is 02:03:16 Congratulations. Iris, as I found out today, I'm pregnant with my first child. Longtime listener and member. Love the show. Congratulations. And thank you for the shout out and uh good luck best of luck uh we'll write one more here simo labete says put out a song every week that's what russ did and he said it launched his career well it takes longer to finish the songs we could finish a bunch of songs and then put out one every week um but we're also
Starting point is 02:03:42 like filming music videos for them we were changing the strategy a bit i suppose i was talking about how we had this big plan for a bunch of the songs that was going to follow will of the people and for a variety of reasons we decided to pick different songs which have different themes and different styles i guess but But there's one song I'm really excited for that I think... I'm wondering. So Only Ever Wanted, we've showed it to people, and they've all just been like, wow, this is the best song ever.
Starting point is 02:04:13 And I'm probably assuming they're just blowing smoke, and they're just saying that. But I think it's good. I personally like it. And it's very different from my normal style of songs. But the song we have, Genocide, I think might actually end up getting more play because it's political. And so in this day and age, like Tom McDonald, for instance,
Starting point is 02:04:32 like when you hear his lyrics, that means something to you. People love it. So Only Ever Wanted is just like a typical song. But the song we have, Genocide, is actually directly about media manipulation, conflict, and stuff like that. So I imagine people will hear the lyrics to that one and probably get into it more. We'll see. My friends, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, and share the show if you do like it. You can follow us at TimCastIRL basically everywhere.
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Starting point is 02:05:47 still sober ish. Uh, you can follow me at Lauren underscore Southern, or just look at my name on the YouTubes to follow my channel. I'm Ian Crossland. Lauren, that was a great call with the grand Patron, a little bit of Manuka honey. Of course.
Starting point is 02:05:59 Just a tiny bit, man. Sweet goodness. I'm going to save the bees. Yeah. That's the last thing I'll say. Bye everyone. I love you so much. I will see you next Monday. No, actually I'll see you next Tuesday. That's sweet goodness on my throat. Save the bees. Yeah. That's the last thing I'll say. Bye, everyone. I love you so much.
Starting point is 02:06:06 I will see you next Monday. No, actually, I'll see you next Tuesday. I will not be here next Monday. Yep. We got a big show on Monday. We got a big guest coming up. I wish I was going to be here, but I'm going to take a weekend off and go refresh my mind and see some family.
Starting point is 02:06:18 I'm very excited. Love you all. See you later. Thank you guys all very much for tuning in. You guys can follow me on Twitter and Minds.com. It's Sarah Patchlets as well as Sarah Patchlitz.me. Thanks for hanging out, everybody. We will see you all.
Starting point is 02:06:29 We're going to have clips from the show up on the weekend. We normally do. And then we'll be back on Monday. Thanks for hanging out.

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