Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #585 - Chinese Military SURROUNDS Taiwan During Pelosi Visit, WW3 Trending w/Angela McArdle

Episode Date: August 3, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So Nancy Pelosi has landed in Taiwan. Currently, she has a whole bunch of police surrounding her hotel. I believe it's the Hyatt. I'm only saying that because there's photos of it happening. Otherwise, I suppose it'd be a security issue. China has vowed to encircle Taiwan, and apparently they're performing live fire drills surrounding the entire island nation. So things are certainly getting spicy.
Starting point is 00:00:25 And I just got to say, my friends, nothing's going to happen. I really doubt anything. I don't think China is going to risk their economic position over Nancy Pelosi. But everybody's really worried and they're wondering why it is that Nancy Pelosi decided to do this. Mitch McConnell and 25 other Republicans have come out in support of her move. We've been talking about it because none of us know exactly why she's going there. Although many people are speculating that's because she's probably buying stock in this semiconductor production company who's going to be moving to Arizona. And, you know, I don't know. That's her MO. But I don't know if that's actually the case. We'll talk
Starting point is 00:00:57 about it. We'll get into it. And then we've got probably my favorite story of the day. Donald Trump the other day endorsed Eric, just Eric in Missouri, which Eric, we don't know. There are three. And when reached for comment, his, his, his office said the endorsement speaks for itself. I love this man. I just, you know, the irreverence is, is exactly what I'm talking about. Okay. When I, when I talk about putting a 96 foot billboard of my rooster on time square, you know, our rooster, you know that we're trying to have a good time and just kind of, you know, give people a laugh. And then Donald Trump does something like this on a major primary day.
Starting point is 00:01:35 And I can't imagine it was an accident that you endorsed three people. And two of the frontrunners are both Eric, and they both claim to have spoken to him on the phone and been endorsed by him. I think Trump is trolling people because he's sitting there, he's Eric, and they both claim to have spoken to him on the phone and been endorsed by him. I think Trump is trolling people because he's sitting there, he's laughing, and he knows what he's doing. So we'll talk about that. And Nancy Pelosi's husband is going to be arraigned for a DUI. So this should get really, really interesting. A bunch of other stories. Before we get started, my friends, head over to TimCast.com.
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Starting point is 00:02:32 your friends. Joining us tonight, we have Angela McArdle. Hey there. Thanks for having me back. Pull that up a little bit. And you want to introduce who you are? Sure. So my name is Angela. I am the chair of the National Libertarian Party. That's what I do. Right on. You were on just not that long ago. And it was really interesting to hear about the Mises caucus taking over the Libertarian Party. So should be interesting as we talk about all the primaries that are happening today.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Big ones. Carrie Lake, for instance. Yeah. She's going to win. We got Corey DeAngelis hanging out. Hey, Corey DeAngelis, senior fellow at the American Federation for Children. Last time I was here with you guys, it was two years ago, right before all the school closures happened in March of 2020. I think it was like two weeks before the whole nation locked down. So a lot has happened on the education front since the last time I was on.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Republicans are apparently up on the issue of education for the first time in like, what, three decades or something? Yeah, basically for the first time ever. I mean, just in 2017, Gallup had Democrats up by 19 percentage points. And I tweeted this out just a little bit ago. And for the first time ever, you have two polls came out last month. You have the American Federation of Teachers, which is one of the biggest teachers unions in the U.S., the leftist organization, plus the Democrats for Education Reform also had a poll last month,
Starting point is 00:03:45 both of them finding Republicans up by one to three percentage points on the issue of education. So it's a seismic shift in support. We have the misery index coming out, showing that Democrats are doomed. And I just want to tell everybody, whether it's true or not, you got to get three of your friends out. You got to go vote, especially right now, especially if you're in Arizona. If you're in Arizona and you didn't go and vote, well, then you're making a mistake because Arizona is a big deal right now. And, you know, we had Carrie Lake on the show. I'm a big fan. She's, we expect her to win. But here's what I got to say. You know, they're projecting 30 to 40 seats lost in the house. Now is the time when you can see your enemy and retreat. You get all your
Starting point is 00:04:24 friends. You call everyone you know, your mom in retreat you get all your friends you call everyone you know your mom your brother your sister your cousins your niece your nephew and say guys come on we're all going to vote and we're going out for pizza so now it's time to do it so uh thanks for joining us man we also got ian hi everybody back from ohio i took a nice vacation for the last a couple days get some fresh air clean my mind great to see you guys again cory i mean the school choice thing well you were a pioneer, and this is like before the nonsense of people having Zoom calls with TC and these weird stuff that teachers are telling. I'm happy to see you again. All of the closures and the teacher unions overplaying their hand have really supercharged the movement for school choice.
Starting point is 00:04:58 2021 was the year of school choice. We just talked about Arizona with Carrie Lake up in the polls for today's election. Arizona just passed the gold standard of educational freedom. Every single family, regardless of income, will be able to take their kids' education dollars to public, private charter. That's apocalyptic for leftists. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Because they don't have kids. But we'll get into all that stuff. It's a beautiful evolution. Yeah. And Lydia is on vacation. So Chris is here. Hey, what's up, everyone? Handling all of the live production
Starting point is 00:05:24 and everything else. So without further ado, what's up, everyone? Handling all of the live production and everything else. So without further ado, let's jump into this first story. The apocalypse is nine, my friends. Politico reports China vows to encircle Taiwan with military drills in response to Pelosi's visit. Tensions reach their most precarious point in more than a quarter century. Forget the Politico. Let me show you the visual. From 12 p.m. August 4th to 12 p.m. August 7th, the Chinese People's Liberation Army will conduct important military exercises and training activities, including live fire drills in the following maritime areas and their airspace. They're just announcing they're going to surround Taiwan and start firing into the air while Nancy Pelosi is in Taiwan. I don't think anything's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Well, I'll put it this way. This is happening. I don't want to be naive and optimistic or biased to assume nothing could happen. You know, because we often talk about the battle at Fort Sumter when no one thought a civil war would break out, so they're like picnicking on the hillside. Are we falling into that trap? Are we sitting here being like, nah, they're not going to do anything to Pelosi or...
Starting point is 00:06:34 No, we have to fear corporate and medical tyranny, not war country on country. They do not want to pose two great economies against each other where they can suck us dry of our interest back to the federal reserve we're not we're not staring down real nuclear war i don't think now we could be staring down some stupid sanctions which they're already doing right on taiwan they're banning imports of fish or whatever it is um i don't know if it's in response to this but
Starting point is 00:07:02 i mean at the end of the day when you banning imports, you're shooting yourself in the foot by reducing the amount of resources that can get into your country. So ultimately, Chinese consumers will be the ones who are hurt by these types of sanctions. I mean, it's true, but you see those videos of all the Chinese citizens like outside the banks, they're unable to pull money out. Yeah. I mean, at a certain point, China says it's now or never. Yeah. I mean, a certain point China says it's now or never. Yeah. And considering how close Taiwan is to China and considering China considers Taiwan to be China, there's a line. You know what I mean? Like the CCP might just say, you know what? That's the line. Our economy is
Starting point is 00:07:39 shot. People can't withdraw money from their banks. We're already facing this threat of, you know, Trump and the United States as an economic force is probably not going to last. They might be thinking, and this is why I don't want to, you know, exaggerate what might happen, but I also don't want to ignore the possibility. China could be looking at this like, we can wait two years. Donald Trump gets reelected. Trade war again.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Economic crisis on our end. We start losing manufacturing. Or they can say, you know what? Show up our defenses now. Make the move before they do. And that might work out. I hate to say it, but it might work out OK. It might work out just fine.
Starting point is 00:08:19 As long as the United States doesn't go after them with aggressive military action, ultimately, what's going to happen? I mean, I feel for the people in Taiwan. Absolutely, I do. I do. But is Taiwan a sovereign nation? I mean, if you ask Americans, the answer is yes. What are Americans, what's that based on? Like, what's their basis for making that assessment? That Taiwan is a sovereign nation? Like the history of taiwan and china i don't know what do you mean officially the republic of china this is where the old chinese government fled when mao staged his insurrection right so basically this occupying force the ccp isn't the real government of china it's the republic right
Starting point is 00:09:00 but the united states officially does not recognize Taiwan as its own country. Right. And so doing that would be a huge leap, huge leap, and it would have a lot of implications. Yeah, but I don't think I don't like Nancy Pelosi all that much. I think she's a hypocrite on the when it comes to education, for example. But I don't think her going over to Taiwan and meeting with people is going to be considered a real act of aggression, for one, because it's not. But I think the Chinese government might be more concerned about us funding Taiwan and actually providing subsidies to them, which could change the dynamic of power in the future. Yeah, I'm surprised so many people exist in this political mindset that like China is a bunch of imbecile children. Like, do you think Russia is sitting there going like, oh, those Ukrainians keep getting fighter jets somehow? Or do you think
Starting point is 00:09:58 they're saying we're at war with America? Right. Oh, they totally. It's China sitting there being like, we know the U.S. doesn't think Taiwan is a country. Or do you think they're saying the U.S. is funding Taiwan so they can rebel against us? And if it wasn't for your involvement, we would have Taiwan now. I think it's probably somewhere in between. I think that. I think it's explicit. Well, the United States is definitely being an economic opportunist in this.
Starting point is 00:10:22 And I think that we're really our government is pushing it as far as they can go. But if China actually stepped in and put troops on Taiwan and started a situation like, like we're seeing in Russia and Ukraine, I don't know if the United States is going to send troops over. I agree. I think we've got, you know, the strike group, carriers, warships that are heading into the region, which is why China's announcing this, because they're basically saying back off. Obviously, the U.S. is the only reason China hasn't just invaded Taiwan. I mean, maybe the fact that Taiwan does have its own defense, but of course, we're supporting them in many ways. We utilize Taiwan for tons of business. If it weren't for us,
Starting point is 00:11:05 they would not have as much economic development and they wouldn't have the resources to defend themselves. At the same time, we benefit China with trade as well. So they might not want to have an act of aggression against Taiwan because they don't want to lose economic trade. Not if they're already hurting. Not if Trump's already started a trade war with them. Not if their banks are already in dire straits. Not if the sentiment of the American people is that in two to four, six years, we're going to strip all the manufacturing away from China, stop doing these deals with Chinese-made products. If they're planning ahead, I got to say, it looks to me like the next four years is going to be made in America. Donald Trump,
Starting point is 00:11:41 he's running again. They have to pull Joe Biden out. That right there is red flag sirens for the Democrat chances of winning. What are they going to do, AOC? Actually, we have the article we're going to talk about. There's no way AOC beats Trump. Knock on wood, because maybe something happens. But if Trump wins, he's going to say, exactly what he said. Do you remember when he had that quote, Michael Moore brought it up?
Starting point is 00:12:10 He went to the auto manufacturers and said, if you make your cars overseas, I will charge you a 30% tariff to bring them in and no one will buy them. And then what do we see? In Michigan, they reopened plants. They brought the cars back from the plants from Mexico. And then as soon as Trump's out, all of a sudden they shut it down. They're moving things back out again. China knows this. They know it better than we do. I can only imagine that they're like looking at their watch saying, we hope Trump doesn't
Starting point is 00:12:33 win. According to Wikipedia, Taiwan is part of the Republic of China, which is a country. And Taiwan, there's 168 islands in the Republic of China. Taiwan makes up like 99.98% of the land mass. So it is its own country, the Republic. Oh, okay. The last poll that was released out of The Hill has Trump up against Biden by what, eight points?
Starting point is 00:12:58 It's like not even close. Biden's done. I mean, did you see that there was a video that came out that everyone thought was a deep fake? Because his eyes are like lasered. And he's like, you got it. It's like, I'm sorry. I don't get I don't think it's a deep fake.
Starting point is 00:13:11 I think they just gave him uppers. Well, is he going to get better or worse between now and 2024? That's a real question. It's like they're giving these pills and it's like squeezing blood from a turnip, you know, like there's nothing left to get out of this man. They're probably pumping him full of things to fortify his blood, this poor man. He's getting, how much you want to bet he gets like IV treatments? No, for real. Oh, I used to get them.
Starting point is 00:13:36 You can get all kinds of nice little vitamin cocktails and they can put a lot more in it than that. We get NAD because Joe Rogan, you know, he know he told me he's like you got to do the nad and then i was like i'm not going to do as much as he does we'll do it sometimes yeah you guys think gavin newsom has any shot at the democratic primary yes absolutely i just don't think they can win yeah but look you know you know we can't i can't see everything you know i've i've made some good political predictions i've made some some big bad ones and you know for the most part it's like here's what i think might happen. And that's why I try to just say, you know what, man?
Starting point is 00:14:08 All that matters is it's primary day right now. Midterms are really, really close. Three months away. Forget who you think is going to win. Just get all your friends, every single one. You know what you should do? Tell your friends you're going to go vote. Call them all up. Every single one. Post, hey, we're meeting
Starting point is 00:14:24 here this time. We're all going to go vote. Like them all up, every single one, post, hey, we're meeting here this time, we're all going to go vote. And like if you live in the right, in the same district or whatever. And if they're grumbling or whatever, just say, hey, we're going to go out for pizza. On the way, we're stopping to vote, then we're going to get pizza. There you go.
Starting point is 00:14:36 That's what you do. I think Eric's going to win that race. I do too. One of them. I mean, Trump endorsed him. In Missouri. You saw that? Yeah, he's probably got something good going for him if Trump may or may not have endorsed him.
Starting point is 00:14:49 You were mentioning Trump endorsed someone else with the wrong last name and first name or whatever. Did he laugh? Was that J.D. Vance's race? He endorsed one of the first names and then the last name of the other guy and everybody's like, well... Is he really just trolling us on all these endorsements? This is what I love about Donald Trump. You know, it's like his foreign policy was some of the best
Starting point is 00:15:11 I've seen. I can talk all about getting our troops out of the Middle East, North Korea. I bring it up all the time because these things I think are important. I absolutely despise. I did a segment today talking about China, talking about Pelosi, Middle East, the drone strike
Starting point is 00:15:25 on that Taliban leader and all this stuff. And I just absolutely despise the American war machine, bureaucratic state, military industrial complex and intelligence industrial complex. If they if they came and were honest with legitimate purposes for what the U.S. were to do overseas, I'd be like, wow, this is serious stuff. It's just lying. Everything is just not true. And it's exemplified by nothing they ever say aligns with what the supposed interests are. You know, like, here's an example. What really pisses me off is Joe Biden's quid pro quo with Ukraine. When he says, if you don't fire the prosecutor, you're not getting a billion dollar loan guarantee. Then he says, I did this because the prosecutor was corrupt. And then we got someone in who was good.
Starting point is 00:16:07 The funny thing is the prosecutor was investigating the founder of Burisma. As soon as Biden gets him fired, the founder came back to Ukraine. And then as soon as Trump came in, the founder fled. Sounds a whole lot like Biden was covering for Burisma because his son worked there. So don't give me this BS. They're spitting in our faces. Now, when they talk about the need for Taiwan and the South China Sea, I'm like, you are just liars. The Gulf of Tonkin, that happened in, what was it, the 70s?
Starting point is 00:16:31 The false flag to get us involved. 60s? False flag, you're right, late 60s. To get us involved in Vietnam. I was not alive. I grew up hearing the story about how we were attacked. And then I think it was in the 2000s,
Starting point is 00:16:44 they finally admitted like, oh, yeah, we kind of staged that thing. So we could force America so that we could draft people. So you know what? I'm done with it. Donald Trump can come in and he can say, we're bringing all the troops out. I'll be like, good, you deserve it. Because the United States is not justified.
Starting point is 00:16:57 I know China's got Africa and South American oil exploration and development and the Belt and Road Initiative. These things are a big threat. We're going to have a multipolar world where there's potential for real world conflict. But the United States, the deep state, bureaucratic state, military industrial complex has done nothing to unify Americans to justify any of these incursions. So you know what? I want Donald Trump to come in, fire everybody, start fresh. That sounds good to me.
Starting point is 00:17:23 I'm with you. I used to be very anti-imperialist in general, just like down with the military industrial complex. And then now recently I'm like, replace it with what? There's going to be a military complex on earth, whether it's the American one or the Chinese one or whatever.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Yeah, but it could be national defense as opposed to national offense. Yeah. Well, but that's what they think. That's what they say, right? Like the reason we are in Afghanistan is because they're like, well, if we leave, it's a power vacuum.
Starting point is 00:17:49 You'll get terroristic entities. You'll get China. And I'm like, hey, yeah, I hear all that, but you lied to us to bring us there. Okay, so, you know, no, that's not how I, you need to give us a legitimate justification. And was the Afghanistan war a huge success? Did we change anything?
Starting point is 00:18:05 It was a success for Halliburton. I don't know who else made money off of it. It's just, look, I've been following some of this stuff. I'm not going to pretend to know more than those who have access to confidential information. I don't. So my position is only, yo, all I know is you're wrong and you're lying. And whenever we say, please justify what you're doing, they give us BS. Barack Obama killed a 16-year-old American citizen, Abdur Rahman Al-Awlaki.
Starting point is 00:18:30 And they said, oops. I'm like, that's it? Sorry, you're done. My consent has been rescinded for what you were doing. I'm a little kid. I'm like, I don't know all about this stuff. I get older. I'm like, hey, I got questions about this.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Then Obama's like, we're going to come in and pull our troops out. And then he gets in. He goes, I'm going to blow up those kids too many. Right. I'm just like, dude, no, none of this. Troops out, drone strikes in. Yeah. You know, look, Donald Trump pulled our troops out of the Middle East and we got more drone
Starting point is 00:18:57 strikes. I can understand what Trump was doing in that capacity. Bringing our troops out means you're pulling out the American power structure, which displaced the existing power structure and caused a huge problem, created ISIS. And now as we're pulling back, we need to basically prevent an expansion of, say, ISIS. I don't blame Trump for the fact that other presidents started wars. I don't blame Barack Obama for the fact that George W. Bush started wars. I blame Barack Obama for drone striking children, for drone striking military aged males, and
Starting point is 00:19:28 then putting more troops in the Middle East. I blame the administrative state for lying to us about why our troops are over there. And I credit Donald Trump for trying to get us out. Not that he did everything perfectly. Far from it. But no new wars, pulling our troops out. I thought it was a good thing. I want to see Trump go in and fire every one of these people.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Nancy Pelosi, I'm sick of it. Get these incumbents out. I'm just so I'm fed up with this stuff. I wish that they were honest. But like, if they were to be like, we're in Afghanistan, because we want to harvest the hair with a poppy for the opiates so that we can make fentanyl and then get enrich our pharmaceutical companies if they were like, I mean, I think that's what we're doing over there amongst the oil extraction. I mean, ending the drug war here would probably help to ease that pain. How would you do that? How would you do that? By decriminalizing the production and manufacture and distribution and consumption of opioid products, including heroin, which is a wildly unpopular idea, but it would open the market up to being able to
Starting point is 00:20:28 actually verify if something was laced with fentanyl, if it was safe. It would make treatment much more normalized. You could tax it. Ew, yeah. I knew it. You're like, no, none of that. I mean, it could happen, and from a libertarian perspective, that makes my skin crawl. But I'm much more grossed out by the thought of us killing citizens in other countries, you know, and calling it collateral damage. That's an awful thing. I look at Fast and Furious with Obama giving the cartels weapons.
Starting point is 00:21:00 These people are not your friends. They do not have the best interests of America at heart. You look at what happened with Michigan with the Whitmer plot. And then you see in the trial it's like oh they were almost all informants orchestrating the thing from the get go. And the guys I think the jury ruled two of them were entrapped. Like these people are not your
Starting point is 00:21:15 friends. But you know what else I realized from all this? Nobody's in charge. I was thinking about it. I'm like you know we talk about how there is in China you can't have a show like this criticizing your own government in China. And then I was like, why do we? I mean, they certainly don't like me. They want to get us banned.
Starting point is 00:21:34 They don't have as much power here. What I mean is the political elites, the uniparty, the bureaucratic state, no single group has enough power to destroy another group. And so there's a constant, you know, battle for power. Right. There are people of principle who are like, we should have decentralized power. They get exploited by liars, cheaters and thieves. It's better than China, though, you know, so I'll take it. But there's no guarantee it's going to stay that way, even though we have a constitution. You have people on, judges that they'll just interpret it a certain way.
Starting point is 00:22:11 And they'll say, well, I know it says this, but I don't think constitutions limit governments in the long term. They limit them, but it's not a guaranteed limitation. Did you see in Pennsylvania, the Supreme Court just ruled that mail-in voting is allowed. And I'm like, the Constitution explicitly says in the Pennsylvania Constitution that absentee balloting has to follow these rules. And they went, yeah, but universal mail-in is a different word. Amazing. I mean, we have a lot of activist judges in the education realm. For example, West Virginia just passed a very expansive school choice program in 2021. They're getting families signed up.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Over 3,000 families were already signed up for the program. And a judge that was previously endorsed by the teachers unions, previously funded by the teachers unions, a circuit judge ruled to stop the program for whatever argument they wanted to make. West Virginia? West Virginia. They had the biggest victory of school choice in 2021. And now the judges are jamming it up. And they're saying, and they do this every, the teacher unions fund people to try to block using any mechanism they can. I am a huge fan of the Free State Project. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:16 And, you know, we've talked about this a while ago. I don't want to take away from that. A lot of people are talking about moving to New Hampshire to join that, and that's a good thing. But I got to tell you, man, I am getting more and more interested in affecting massive political change as it pertains to West Virginia in the direction of freedom and liberty and libertarianism, because we had our Senator Shelley Moore Capito vote for gun control in West Virginia, supporting... No, no, no, no, no, no. So the one thing I don't want to do and why I've been somewhat reluctant to be,
Starting point is 00:23:48 you know, too active is move here two years ago and then all of a sudden be like, time to throw money at local politics. And like, you know, I don't like the idea that someone would do that, especially because we have a successful company. But one thing that did happen was I had locals who were concerned about critical race theory in schools,
Starting point is 00:24:09 and they asked if I would contribute to them, you know, putting up a billboard. And I was like, whatever, you know, it was super cheap to put up a billboard saying like no CRT or something. And I'm like, that's what I say anyway. And now I'm thinking like, maybe considering this is the second most Trump supporting state i don't think people would be upset if i came in and said we're going to support values you know freedom liberty individualism and all of this stuff and maybe just start doing what we can politically maybe with just messaging with local ads yeah you know i don't know i don't know if i want to be involved in overt politics but i'll definitely be involved in messaging, spreading the word.
Starting point is 00:24:46 School choice is a must. Absolutely. Gun rights. Absolutely. That's what you already do. So it's just an extension, really, of what you're already doing. And honestly, it's a defensive maneuver because you're doing it in reaction to policies that have been passed that are, you know, basically it's like they're spitting in your face. I mean, the other side is doing it, too.
Starting point is 00:25:06 So if we don't play the political process, then we lose. West Virginia is awesome. And, you know, it's I have this there's this quote of me. I think the Mises caucus actually made it because I said it on the show. I said, you know, back during the Ron Paul revolution days, I was like, I don't agree with a lot of his worldview when he talks about, like, you know, his religious perspective or things like that. But I prefer him over everyone else because he was like, I't agree with a lot of his world view when he talks about like you know his religious perspective or things like that but i prefer him over everyone else because he was like i'm gonna leave you alone and i was like hey i dig it okay i'll be over here doing my thing with my friends and you go over there and then we got no beef i'll come and i'll share
Starting point is 00:25:36 you know we'll do trade when we do trade but we'll do our thing yes he made a bunch of really great points he was like if you want socialism in america just make a socialist commune don't stop in you yep why are you trying to go and, just make a socialist commune. No one's stopping you. Why are you trying to go and take everyone else's stuff? And I'm like, he's right. You know, like me and my friends, we had our little hippie houses where we all like lived in a shoebox apartment sharing rent so that we could work less.
Starting point is 00:25:55 You're free to do so. I dig it. I like that idea. So I like coming to West Virginia. And then what I see is people walk around with guns. People get along. It's just, there are some issues. It's funny,
Starting point is 00:26:07 like weed's super illegal. But like in Maryland, it's not. But then in Maryland, guns are super illegal. And I'm like, listen, I want to be able to,
Starting point is 00:26:15 what's the shirt? I want to buy weed from my gay married neighbor with Bitcoin while carrying my weapon to protect myself in the process. You know, just like you're not hurting anybody the action of should be stopped we shouldn't be doing this pre-crime stuff yeah and i think um this socialist doomsday scenario could turn out in the future if we don't free kids from the government school system
Starting point is 00:26:40 and i think you know hey i haven't been here two years, but a lot has changed over the last two years. And I think part of that is because when the government school teachers unions closed the schools for so long, even lobbied the CDC to do so, families started to see that the schools that they thought their kids were in, that they otherwise thought were doing a good job based on the state ratings, or whether they were getting good grades on their report cards, started to see that there was another dimension of school quality that they hadn't really thought about as much, which is whether the school is teaching in a way that aligns with your family's values. So you mentioned CRT earlier, there's gender ideology in the classroom now as well, and just left versus right bias in the classroom as well, that could, that's really increased the momentum for
Starting point is 00:27:26 school choice as well. Let me pull up this tweet from you, actually. So Corey A. DeAngelis on Twitter says, the GOP has a golden opportunity to become the parents party. And you linked to this, this data showing that Republicans are now favored on the issue of education for basically the first time ever. Is it really ever? Yeah, well, according to this chart, it's going back two decades at least. And I don't recall a time of Democrats ever being down on the issue of education. This is a seismic shift. It's like a double digit swing in the other direction. This is apocalyptic for the left. Yeah, because as we often mentioned, and I'm not I don't mean to be crass, they're substantially more likely
Starting point is 00:28:07 to abort their children. They're substantially more likely to give drugs to their children, which will prevent the ability to reproduce. They're substantially more likely just in general not to have families. So as the saying goes, leftists don't have kids. They have yours. They need to be able to convert the children of moderates and conservatives. Otherwise, their ideology ceases to exist. And this is why Terry McAuliffe in Virginia had to say,
Starting point is 00:28:34 I don't think parents should be telling schools what they should teach. It's a deeply ingrained belief that the kids belong to the government schools. This idea that it takes a village. Well, it turns out it's a deeply unpopular belief, especially after the school system treated families so bad after the past couple of years. And I think the opponent, the Republican, Glenn Youngkin, tapped into something which could be a blueprint for success for the GOP and libertarians as well going forward. Because how are you going to defend this idea
Starting point is 00:29:01 that parents shouldn't have a say in their kids' education? It's insane. For any ideology, too. Just because it happens to be on the backs of people that were talking to kids about sexuality, it doesn't matter. You want to talk to kids about religion and tell them not to tell their parents? It's still messed up. You still don't do that stuff.
Starting point is 00:29:18 We have entrusted the public schools. They violated trust, in my opinion. Can you real quick explain what school choice exactly is? Yeah, the money that would have followed you to the government run school on average in the US, according to 2019 data from the Census Bureau, was about $16,000 per kid. Wow. If you want to take it to the government school, you can. If you like your public school, you can keep your public school.
Starting point is 00:29:40 But for real. But if not, about half of the funding or so, depending on the law that you pass, will follow the child, usually to something called an education savings account, which the parents could use for private school tuition, for a charter school, for home-based learning options, like a micro school, for example. It's the idea that the money follows the child. It's time to start calling this universal school access. Yeah. We advocate for universal school access for all children. You oppose access to schooling for
Starting point is 00:30:07 children. You monster. I just call it funding students, not systems. It puts the other side on defense because if you want to fight against me, you have to argue why we should fund the system and not the student. So it's a sure. I'm going to call it universal school access. Look, I'm in favor of both universal school access for all families. USA. Tweet it out. Listen, listen. An impoverished family should have the right to get access to the school for their kids that they think is right for them, don't you? I mean, you don't think we should segregate schools, do you? No, and I think that kids in incredibly violent, dangerous inner city school systems should be able to go to school somewhere else if the funding is
Starting point is 00:30:46 there. Honestly, you know, from a libertarian perspective, I say just get rid of as much public education as possible. But if it's going to be a fight to do that, let's take every step possible and at least let these poor kids have a choice. It's brutal. Public school is a brutal, violent place for a lot of children. Oh, yeah. Yep. I certainly know that. It's terrible. Yeah. You were homeschooled, right? Well, briefly.
Starting point is 00:31:08 So before kindergarten, my mom homeschooled me, my brother, my sister. I think as the story goes, we were homeschooled the moment we were alive. Yeah. Like she was always, you know, trying to show us things. And then I think I learned how to play chess when I was like three. Not that I was good at it. I'm not saying that. But like I was being explained and taught the moves of a chessboard and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:31:29 And then when me and my siblings, we were going to school, we already knew our basic math before even kindergarten. We started with Catholic school, which was private. My family chose it because I thought it was a better school. And then hard times. After fifth grade, we moved to a public school. And wow, i think this is one of the greatest experiences of my life to be honest going from this this private catholic
Starting point is 00:31:51 school which was very strict but um not particularly harsh just it was like very rigid like if you didn't have your tie you got a misconduct slip and you had to go home and get it signed and it was like oh no you don't have your little sailor tie and then you go to this public school where nobody did anything. And like, you didn't have your homework. Who cares what are you going to do about it? The kids were doing drugs. And then for me to be thrust into that, I think was actually a really good thing because I had discipline from a private school, private Catholic school. Then I got to experience the real world very, very quickly. And so I was like, okay, I don't want to do those things. I see why they're bad, but I also see real life. So there was a net benefit to having experience from a more disciplined place and then realizing
Starting point is 00:32:30 just how bad public schools were. I mean, I got, I got to tell you, like going from a private school, which, you know, they have their problems too. It's like, it's perfect. And then going to a public school is like, I was not even in school. It was like daycare, basically. Yeah. Yeah. Which a lot of parents didn't get starting in March of 2020. And then you had some people in the school system saying, I'm doing my job. I'm educating through Zoom. But it's like, well, if but one of the side benefits of the school system is that you have in-person child care services and taxpayers want it have agreed to pay fifteen,,000, $16,000 per year. I would say they don't agree in the current situation either, but they certainly wouldn't have
Starting point is 00:33:11 agreed to raise taxes as much as they have if the only benefit you were getting was something that could be done via Khan Academy for free. How about Zoom detention? Remember that? Yeah. Log into Zoom and stare at a blank screen for 30 minutes. And have the cops come to your house if there was a Nerf gun behind you on the wall. That happened too. I had Saturday detention once. I was, I went to high school very briefly and I can't remember what happened. I think I cut class or something because it was just so awful. And then they did this thing where they changed our schedule. So we're in, you know, I'm in eighth grade and it's like 7.30 in the morning until 2.30 is school. And then when we start high school, the local high school says we're doing 1045 a.m. to
Starting point is 00:33:48 530 p.m., which was like a huge shock to all of the freshmen coming in. So I was just like, this is ridiculous. And I left. So I come back and they're like, Saturday detention for you. And then I was like, what happens if I don't come to Saturday detention? Like, you get another one. And I was like, OK, what happens if I don't go to that? And they're like, you get another one.
Starting point is 00:34:03 And I was like, I don't think you're understanding what this means. And I'm like, OK. And then I I don't go to that? And they're like, you get another one. And I was like, I don't think you're understanding what this means. And I'm like, okay. And then I just didn't go. Like nothing happened. It's nonsense. Even then, now Zoom detention is funny. It's like turn your tablet on and then sit in your room, I guess. You're like playing video games or something.
Starting point is 00:34:17 And at the same time, you had the Teacher's Union board members vacationing in Puerto Rico saying, there's no way I can go to work in person, but I can be sitting here on the beach tweeting out photos on Instagram. Well, if it was safe enough to travel on vacation, why wasn't it safe enough to go back to work? Ah, they're full of it, man. And you know what? It doesn't even matter. I don't want to have a political argument over schools like teachers in the unions. I'm like, my attitude is strictly, you know, hey, good for them. If you like your teachers and you like what's going on,
Starting point is 00:34:48 that's really, really great for you. I think we need universal school access for kids. And, you know, that way, you know, not every teacher is good. And so the parents need to decide, you know, what the proper schooling is and they shouldn't be barred from that. So if you have a kid who's in a,
Starting point is 00:35:03 let me ask you this. Is it unreasonable? If you have a kid who's in a... Let me ask you this. Is it unreasonable? If you have a kid who lives in a poor area, the parents should be allowed to have that kid go to a wealthier neighborhood school, right? That's universal school access. That's what we're fighting for, for the underprivileged inner city kids
Starting point is 00:35:18 to go to where the rich white kids get to go, right? And if you look at the percentage of people from different backgrounds who are using these existing programs, it tends to be lower income families. Charter schools, you look at National Center for Education Statistics data, more likely to have a higher proportion of non-white students and more likely to have a higher proportion of low income students. You look at the DC voucher program, for example, where I live, and the average household income of students using that program, I think is about $28,000 per household in D.C. 95% of the students using the program in D.C.
Starting point is 00:35:51 are black or Hispanic, yet you had the Biden administration coming out against the program with funding following the child. What's their argument against universal school access? You're stealing money from the public schools, to which I respond, the money doesn't belong to the government schools. Education funding is meant for educating the child, not for propping up and protecting a particular institution. Why should poor children be barred from going to the fancier, wealthy private schools? We should guarantee universal school access so the families can get a voucher and go to the wealthy private school
Starting point is 00:36:25 or the public school in the better area, universal school access? Well, what's funny is the left supports a whole bunch of initiatives that allow public money, taxpayer funding, to follow the decision of the family or student for higher education. We have the Pell Grant for low-income kids. We have the GI Bill for veterans. You can take the money to a public, private, religious, or non-religious university. It doesn't have to go to one particular place based on your address. We do the same thing with Head Start and pre-K programs.
Starting point is 00:36:52 The families can choose religious or non-religious private providers of pre-K, and that's the funding following the student. We do the same thing with food stamps for grocery stores. You can take the money to Walmart, Trader Joe's, Safeway. You don't have to take the money to a residentially assigned government-run grocery store. What happens if everybody signs on to this and then all the kids from the surrounding area want to go to this one school that's really good? It overloads their capacity. They expand. It's a good problem to have.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Currently, if everybody wants to go to that school today, they may want to do it in their minds, but they can't do it because they don't have the financial means to do so when they're already paying through the tax system for the government schools. DC public schools spend over $30,000 per student per year. But like year one, so everyone decides to go to this big good school and only like 10% of them can get in because they have 10 times the amount. What happens? Is it like, do they have draw a straw first come first serve? Do they raise the price because supply and demand? Well, new schools pop up. People submit applications to open charter schools all the time.
Starting point is 00:37:52 And schools typically will expand. So if in one year too many students are trying to enroll, they'll say, we've got our capacity. So we've, you know, threw a random lottery. These are the ones that are on to come. We're sorry. But we will be expanding next year. So you can next year. But in the meantime, let's say you can't go to the best school. are the ones that are on to come. We're sorry, but we will be expanding next year. So you can next year. But in the meantime, let's say you can't go to the best school.
Starting point is 00:38:07 You can go to the second best school. It's better than having no choices at all. Let's let's jump to this. This next story from the New York Post. Misery index shows Democrats face midterm rout as voters rage at Biden. I think the issue of schools is going to have is obviously having a huge impact on this. Not just the misery index, but basically, for those that aren't familiar, the misery index is looking at inflation, unemployment, gas prices, and it is so bad.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Look at this misery index, the unemployment spike plus the inflation spike. It is just bad news across the board for regular people. This typically indicates there's going to be a major party switch, like the Congress is going to flip. People are just saying, we're done with this. I think on top of this, you have what we saw in Virginia with Youngkin. Parents have become a voting bloc, which is hilarious. And the Democrats keep attacking them. The end result is going to be, well, it's hopeful.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Based on all of the data we've seen, Democrats are going to get purged from Congress and the Senate. Joe Biden's still in the presidency, so it's not like there's going to be a lot of movement. And then if the Republicans can make their argument properly, 2024 comes around, you get a Republican president, and then all of this stuff gets shoved through. Donald Trump, one of the big reasons that i said if it was august 2020 i was going to be voting for him was because school choice was was was on a second term agenda and what i was saying to people is you've got pushback of the critical race theory in government contracting we can't have that but school choice makes the most sense there's no
Starting point is 00:39:43 argument against it it should be a left-wing position. So I'm previously mentioning calling school choice universal school access. Because the idea is families can choose where to send their kids. They will get a confirmed. Right now, a poor family can't go to a private school. But with a school choice program, basically, they can now. But you know that's not what they want right want you in these propaganda indoctrination centers where they can control what they what you learn as a student and they can just crush the joy out of
Starting point is 00:40:15 learning absolutely the crazy thing though is school choice is a it should be a left-wing position i mean if you if you pull the constituents on the ground, polling consistently shows supermajority support. For example, the latest Real Clear Opinion research polling from 2022 finding that 72% of Americans support school choice funding following the child to public and private schools that work best for your kid. But there was also supermajority support among Republicans, Democrats, and independents. It only comes to the elected officials in the state houses where you see Republicans being much more likely to vote to support school choice than Democrats. And that's all because of the political power dynamics of
Starting point is 00:40:54 the teachers unions. We were speaking a little bit earlier that Randy Weingarten's union, who had this poll, backfire on them showing Republicans up on education. But the American Federation of Teachers, the second largest teachers union in the US, in 2022, 99.997% of their campaign contributions have gone to Democrats. So the Democrats are in a catch-22 situation right now. And this is why this is such a good opportunity, a golden opportunity for the GOP to become the Parents' Party. Because if they talk about education, the Democrats are going to have to respond in one way or the other. If they come out against parental rights, like we saw with Terry McAuliffe, well, that's a disaster with the new special interest group, which is parents.
Starting point is 00:41:36 But if they come out for parental rights, well, then Randy Weingarten, then unions are going to get mad. Ian, do you mind talking about what you were mentioning before the show with your family? Yeah, which one exactly? About watching the show. before the show with your family? Yeah, which one exactly? About watching the show. You're cool talking about it? Yeah, 100%. Yeah, so before the show, Ian was mentioning that you were talking to your parents about Biden's brain.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Yeah, yeah. Last time I went to Ohio about a month ago, we were talking about Biden. And I was like, it changes from time to time. But I was like, he's losing his mind. And my mom's like, I mean, no, he's not that bad. No, he's fine. And I And my mom's like, I mean, no, he's not that bad. You know, or he's no, he's fine. And and I was just like in shock. But I left.
Starting point is 00:42:09 I didn't you know, I'm not getting emotional about this stuff. So I went back a couple of days ago and she was like, I was like, you know, the problem with Biden is he's losing his mind. She's like, yeah, he is. And the media is talking about it now. And that's probably why she started acknowledging. Yes. As soon as you see Jimmy Kimmel talk about it and everyone laughs, then it's okay to acknowledge it.
Starting point is 00:42:25 This is, this was a really great example. I was like, I was saying to Ian, I was like, tell them that we on this show have been showing examples of this for, for years, that the true and honest shot, but a pressure. And so they need to look, it's not about watching this show. It's about watching shows in this area where maybe it's because we're younger and more tuned to what's going on. We, we see these things, we know what's happening. But when they sit and they watch corporate press, they're not realizing it. They're way far behind everyone else. The reason I bring this up is this is why Democrats retain power, because regular people
Starting point is 00:42:59 aren't, you know, I shouldn't say regular people, but the older generation is not getting real information. They are getting fake news from the corporate propagandists. I mean, weren't they saying that people who were questioning Biden's cognitive abilities were making fun of like a stuttering issue that he had? Yes, that was one of their first defense tactics. I've never seen someone with a stuttering problem put a metal on someone's neck backwards and walk off stage the wrong direction. That's not stuttering.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Well, to be fair, it is a common symptom of stuttering when you reach out to shake invisible hands, when you say words that aren't real. Everybody knows when you have a stutter, you don't just stutter, you also make words up like, like Betta Kefker and Nex Nel Ressent and Trinidad and Shabba Depressor. You accidentally put your son on, on boards of oil companies. The most common symptom. Getting too close to small children. The doctor's like, oh, yeah, we talked about that a lot, too,
Starting point is 00:43:52 is the way he handles kids on stage, the way that he smells. He's not actually sniffing the hair. It's just so disturbing. Another symptom of sorrow. I brought up Tara Reid. We talked about that for a while. I mean, the Biden-Tara Reid allegation against Biden is damning. I'm just imagining there's like a little boy and he's stuttering.
Starting point is 00:44:07 And the doctor's like, we couldn't help but you have all of the symptoms of a stutter. You're repeating the first syllable of the word over and over again. And your son has been placed on the board of an energy company in Ukraine. I've been doing that since I was nine, man. Oh, no. Most common symptom. You know, I'm going to back on on school choice a little bit because you're wrong i'm absolutely upset because i love it but i need to know i need to steel man
Starting point is 00:44:30 this thing let's go so what happens when a bunch of people like keep one decide to keep the money they're like okay i'm gonna i'm gonna homeschool my kid the mom decides i'm gonna keep the eight grand a year but then she just doesn't teach the kid and that's already happening in the government schools you want to get rid of all government, but then she just doesn't teach the kid. That's already happening in the government schools. You want to get rid of all government schools because some of them don't teach anything? Yeah. I mean, this is using an outlier. But let's more directly respond to the point.
Starting point is 00:44:53 I'll make one point real quick. When I went to school, I had teachers who didn't teach us anything. And it was punishment. It was prison. So it's ungovernable? Do you think it's ungovernable? No, we have just like a health savings account
Starting point is 00:45:03 where you can only use the funding for health services. It's an education savings account. Like an EBT card for education? So you can't go and buy big screen TVs. If you do, you'll be in trouble for fraud. Even if you did, I think that'd be a better use of the funds than throwing them to an endless money pit into the government's faces.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Hiring more guidance counselors. I gotta tell you, I think many kids would be better off not in these schools yeah and not being educated at all because some of these schools are doing worse than nothing oh yeah so the other question is how do you what do you do in the situation where the the surrounding schools all send their kids to the the middle this one really good school and then they all lose money and start to go out of business or have to fire teachers and you've got these like derelict schools that are half. I mean,
Starting point is 00:45:47 that's the argument that I just want to jump in. Like, imagine there was a bakery that sold turd rolls and nobody wanted them, but the government was forcing by taking your tax money and then funding the turd roll bakery. And then one day someone comes along and says, people should get a choice on what they eat for breakfast and they shouldn't have to send their kids to the turd roll bakery.
Starting point is 00:46:07 If the turd roll bakery collapses and all the bakers get fired i'm sorry dude people just don't want to eat crap yeah so the problem is not a good argument to trap the kids in there like the thing about a business is that they can fail when they do bad the bad thing about business is that they can become exploitative when they grow large and cumbersome like you know starbucks instance, when they start shoving out, or I shouldn't single them out. Any major fast food can shove out local mom and pop shops. There's a problem when they grow too large. But we can address the problem of monopolies. We also need to address the problem
Starting point is 00:46:35 of unfallible government institution, perceivably. Like, well, the school, if it's not doing well, give it more money. It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. And you got to recognize that there is no utopian school solution because human beings are imperfect, fallible creatures. So we can't make any system perfect,
Starting point is 00:46:53 but we can remove government monopolies and government incentives for corruption and coercive school policies. What do you think about curriculum? One more on that point. The reality is school choices are rising tide that lifts all boats. Competition leads to improvements in every sector of society, including in K-12 education. And there are 28 studies that exist on the topic.
Starting point is 00:47:16 25 of the 28 studies find statistically significant positive effects of private school choice competition on the outcomes in the public schools. So they up their game in response to competition like you see everywhere else. And at the end of the day, if the people who make this argument, this is going to destroy the public schools, they don't have much confidence in the public schools. That's not a good argument to trap kids in there. It's a good argument to let them leave.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Destroy away, please. Yeah, like let the bad businesses fail. Are they considered businesses, schools? I mean, they are with higher education. They are with pre-K. Why isn't any different for K-12 education? We have a market for schools already. The private sector already exists in K-12 education.
Starting point is 00:47:53 It's not just that. When people are looking to buy houses, they check the school districts specifically because they're shopping around for good school districts. And you will find areas with bad schools, people that, well, we shouldn't move there because of their schools. That kind of thing already exists. The issue is my view of school choice is like, you've got a poor family living in this area and the school kind of sucks.
Starting point is 00:48:13 They can't afford to move. They can't afford to jump to a wealthy area, but they can say, we can take this universal school access and send our kid to a better school and give them a better life. And you can save taxpayer money at the same time. They spend $15,000, $16,000 in the government schools.
Starting point is 00:48:27 You can structure the program to be $10,000 per kid or $12,000 per kid. So you can have a taxpayer savings. You could even give some of that money back to the public schools. They end up with higher per-people funding, and you can create a win-win situation. Oh, interesting. So you could give a small percentage to schools where there are no kids going just to keep... That's a really good idea. See?
Starting point is 00:48:47 There we go. I want to jump to this next story because it's the most important story of our generation. The Hill. Opinion. AOC is the Democrats' best shot against Trump in 2024.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Ladies and gentlemen, I agree. Go wild. I completely agree. I agree 100%. I want to see it. There is no one that I think in the Democratic Party that has any kind of gravitas or media
Starting point is 00:49:08 poll. I don't think any of them can win. Gavin Newsom looks like American psycho. AOC can't win either, but best shot? Agreed. Trump couldn't win either. Remember that in 2015. That's true. I would love to see AOC win.
Starting point is 00:49:23 I think she's going to be more likely to engage with libertarians and third party candidates, too. Really? I think she is. I think she can't help herself. She can't stand the people that are bought off. I don't know. I think she might be moving in that direction, but we'll see. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:49:41 I don't know that for sure. I mean, I think this would be a gift to the GOP and the Liarian party ah they they remember what they said about trump the pied piper yeah they were like no one will vote for this guy i think aoc is their best shot i still don't think she can win she will just turn 35 before the election but considering here here's the here's the deal folks the economy is in the gutter the misery misery index is through the roof. None of this is going to make it work for the Democrats. Now, by 2024, okay, maybe the Republicans win in November
Starting point is 00:50:11 and then they just royally screw things up. Then AOC comes in and she's like, I'm going to do all this wonderful free stuff and then maybe she wins. Because you've got to consider this. It's a couple years from now. You've got new young people entering the voting pool and you've got to consider this. It's a couple years from now. You've got new young people entering the voting pool, and you've got older people aging out.
Starting point is 00:50:28 So every election, you see a shift that changes. The older folks are way more conservative than the younger folks. Gen Z is a little bit more conservative in some areas, but they're nowhere near as conservative. So in two years, you lose a decent amount of boomers, and you gain a slightly larger amount of progressives. How about a DeSantis versus AOC matchup? That's just, you know, cool conversation.
Starting point is 00:50:51 I would love to see AOC win because it would be as funny as Trump winning. I wouldn't be a fan of what you would try to do, to be completely honest. But it's like, hey, gridlock, you'd have Republicans holding Congress. Yeah, if we had total gridlock, it would be wild. I'm just, you know, when Trump won the first time, I had my feet up and I was just laughing my ass off. Yeah. So I bought an extra bottle of port in 2016. I was drinking port at the time. That was my thing. And when he won Florida, I was like, it's gonna be a long night. I didn't look at the news at all when I was at work on election day. I just didn't want to know.
Starting point is 00:51:27 I was too depressed about Hillary Clinton winning. And I got home and turned on the news and I was just laughing hysterically. This was actually reality. I felt like someone, a ghost punched me in the gut. I woke up at like 3 a.m. and checked. I was like, what is going on? I didn't think this was possible. Yeah. I remember my Australian friend's social media posts that's the only thing i remember from from the day the results were
Starting point is 00:51:52 announced it just said lol america and that was exactly how i felt someone someone super jettas do not speak of satan else the devil might appear free aoc and my attitude is kind of like look man i feel like if AOC were to get in, it would just be better than what we currently have with the uniparty establishment like Biden. And I don't think it would be good, but I would laugh. When AOC won against Crowley, I laughed. I was like, good, good riddance to these establishment shill, you know, I don't care. AOC has proven, in my opinion, to be duplicitous deceptive deceitful fabricating stories on january 6th and all of that stuff i still would rather see her than any one of
Starting point is 00:52:32 these establishment deep state whatever uniparty trash shills she's a pretty good actor right i think it'd just be hilarious handcuffs on for a while she lies just like all the rest of them so it's not it doesn't make her worse unfortunately they all of them lie well i'm just saying it would be clown world times 10 yes when it come on it would be funny to have president ocasio-cortez i embrace clown world i do not reject clown world i embrace it it's like look if you can't get trump to come in and try and clean things up you can get aoc to burn it down i guess let's burn it if that's what people want i think it'd be funny a righteous fire a righteous healing fire righteous but but this is
Starting point is 00:53:10 what they do on the left they they literally riot now we don't want any of that stuff you know donald trump coming in we you know i want him to fire everybody oh yeah please don't burn it literally let's just let's just um destroy it ideologically and make it into a joke i'm imagining aoc she's sitting at like the situation room and the cia comes in they're like miss miss madam president we have these uh kill lists the disposition matrix these are the people we got to assassinate and she's just like no and they're like you have to and she's just like i don't know i don't know i don't think i wanna what is this and then it's just like how do you how do you work? Look, when they go to Obama,
Starting point is 00:53:48 here's what I imagine. CIA goes to Obama and says, sir, we have these wanted men. Here's what they've done. We have a chance to take them out. This is in line with foreign policy. It must be done. And then he goes, okay. Launch the drones. AOC is going to be like, what?
Starting point is 00:54:03 Huh? No. I don't know. And they're just not going to be like, what? Huh? No. I don't know. And they're just not going to be able to do any of this stuff. I think it'll just be gum gum. They should be like, fire all those guys that wouldn't listen to me.
Starting point is 00:54:11 I want to see Instagram live streams of shopping. That's what I want to see from the White House. How do you, here's my, here's the point I'm trying to get to. With Donald Trump,
Starting point is 00:54:18 they accuse him of working with Russia. That is a ridiculous thing. What are they going to accuse AOC of doing? She's like, she's a, look, I'm not trying to be a dick, but she's like she's an look i'm not trying to be a dick but she's an airhead you know what i'm you know she's just she's not gonna do what
Starting point is 00:54:31 they say yeah what would her scandal be i don't know what would her scandal be aoc's scandal they try to use to ruin her or it could just be that she just says probably partying probably partying you think yeah and that's not that's not very bad cars or something that's not there's a lot worse scandals there's people with with kill list conspiracy theories attached to them you know they said reagan wouldn't be president right they're like a movie star president then you get donald trump a reality tv real estate mogul i think ase could win i really do i just don't think it's likely if she wins it makes it so much more likely libertarians have a shot we'll get a comedian TV, real estate mogul. I think AOC could win. I really do. I just don't think it's likely. If she wins, it makes it so much more likely libertarians have a shot.
Starting point is 00:55:09 We'll get a comedian in the White House. Why do you think so? Well, you're talking about voting for a clown. Why are we not having a comedian? So what's happening with the Libertarian Party? Do we have any updates on who's running? So we don't have any official announcements but i think in you just said dave smith you said comedian right so we don't have any we don't have official announcements
Starting point is 00:55:31 but the top contenders right now are going to be dave smith justin amash and and spike cohen although he keeps insisting he's not running he's there's a lot of energy and support behind him so those are the those are the three people who i see falling into that role and there has been a little bit of a little bit of whisper and buzz about maj teray maybe jumping into a vp really that'd be cool can i be education secretary so i can get rid of the department absolutely make you education secretary scott horton will be you know in charge of foreign policy that That would be awesome. Build a mini ramp in the situation room.
Starting point is 00:56:09 I want to see Maj Touré running Senate and Congress. You see, this is why. He teaches conflict resolution classes. He had one over the weekend. So maybe we could actually use it. Press Secretary Malice, absolutely. That's all I want. I'm ready.
Starting point is 00:56:26 He will do it. This is going to be the greatest thing ever. One Bitcoin. One Bitcoin. So we got the Times Square billboards up, and we've included him on them. Because we're big fans, and I thought it would be great. And then he said to me, he's like, well, at least if we lose, we have more fun. And I'm like, yep.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Yes. I think we're going to do all right, though. If you want to see Malice as a press secretary, we got to start hooking that man up with one Bitcoin per month. One Bitcoin per month. I mean, that's not that much
Starting point is 00:56:51 for a press secretary. We're talking, we're talking like, what is that going to come out to? Like 270 a year. It's a high salary for a government position like that. I think the cap is 174 though,
Starting point is 00:57:02 per year. Oh, it's capped out. You can't pay. I think so. No, but in a campaign,'s capped out you can't think so no but in a campaign you can pay more can't you oh in a campaign yeah yeah yeah campaign so we'll we'll have to figure something out worth it yeah absolutely see i'm putting together an excellent roster for you all i like how it's like we're sitting here it's kind of like you know bsing and then cory's like i'll be i'll be education secretary you're like sure i've got a list it'll
Starting point is 00:57:24 be a good list you're on the list five years later secretary. And you're like, sure. I've got a list. It's a good list. You're on the list. Five years later, you are. And we're like, man, we were just talking smack. And the Department of Ed's gone. The next day, I'm firing myself. Oh, yes. I saw a bar tab from before they signed the Declaration of Independence, the founding fathers.
Starting point is 00:57:37 And it was like, yeah, it was like 160 bottles of liquor for 60 of them. You know, it was some insane number where they all drank like two and a half bottles. That's amazing. They're all drunk and they're just like, screw it. We're independents. And they're like, yeah. And they wake up in the morning like, what did I sign? I'll put Reid Coverdale in charge of transportation.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Yeah. He's a trucker. I love Reid. I know him through Twitter, but I've never met him face to face. Very cool guy. Yeah. You know, Spike Cohen is brilliant. He is.
Starting point is 00:58:07 He's a great articulate messenger. I really, he's very humble too. I didn't, I had no idea how brilliant, like how genius the guy was. He's a genuinely nice person. And I love libertarians, but we're not all nice. I don't consider myself a genuinely nice person. I can be kind of mean. I've never seen Spike Cohen be mean.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Never. So, so look, there's a new libertarian party, obviously, right now. Oh, yeah. You can be kind of mean. I've never seen Spike Cohen be mean. Never. So, look, there's a new Libertarian Party, obviously, right now. Oh, yeah. You guys took over. Yeah. The old Libertarian Party got really crazy. Remember when...
Starting point is 00:58:34 I'm sorry, who was running for president? I forgot her name. Joe. Joe? Joe Jorgensen. Joe Jorgensen. When she did that Marxist authoritarian statement on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Oh, my goodness. I was like, this is the funniest thing I've ever heard from her. She said, it's not enough to be not racist. We must be actively anti-racist. Super sweet lady. Super sweet lady. Did not have good people on her team. But it was funny.
Starting point is 00:58:58 I thought it was hilarious. The libertarians were telling us what we must do. I know. I know. It was very painful. It was very painful. What we must do. I know. I know. It was very painful. It was very painful. What we must do. What was the party's stance on the closures
Starting point is 00:59:08 and the lockdowns at the time? So the party did not make a single statement, not on their website, not email, not social media, not Twitter, nothing for an entire year. Come on. This is your opportunity. This is the time to do this. This is your time to shine.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Ball whiffed. Ball whiffed. Ball whiffed. So we have come out very strong opposition under new leadership to lockdowns, all manner of mandates, vaccine mandates, war. I don't understand how the liberal... Look, it sounds to me like the Libertarian Party was taken over before you guys took over. It was taken over in 2006 by...
Starting point is 00:59:43 The insider term is prags, prag pragmatists but you could consider them as more centrist moderate types so you could think of it as yang gang without the marketing but they're not libertarian correct like like i people refer to me as lib center libertarian centrist or whatever and i'm more in agreement with you guys than oh very much so no they're they they started out kind of like moderate. Oh, man. So the history of this is really brutal and I had to go through recently
Starting point is 01:00:09 about 15 years of staff reports to understand everything that happened. So exciting. Well, really more, I went back to 1996. It will bore you to death. But I personally found it fascinating to watch the party get taken over by neocons at one point and watch membership and fundraising and interest tank and then get taken over by neocons at one point and watch membership and fundraising and interest
Starting point is 01:00:26 tank and then get taken over by woke types and watch it tank again. The reality is libertarians at large, the movement, don't want anything to do with that. But these weirdos got into positions of power and really soiled the branding and name. And it's just they were more organized at the time and who knows i speculate there why are you libertarian at all well you're mad at your dad you know so you don't want to vote the same party as your dad so you pick us instead it's like your weird boring centrist rebellion wow yeah but now we've taken it over we've taken it back we've taken it back was it because of the covid stuff or was it already in the works we were working on this uh we kicked it off at the summer of 2017 so i was already active in the
Starting point is 01:01:12 party and then was kind of confused when i saw people coming out against ron paul in the party i was like what what what total embarrassment i'm so i'm ashamed this was like the prags or whatever yeah shameful shame i don't understand how are they against ron paul i don't know mean words they he had friends they didn't like someone said something mean that's not pragmatic at all no it's not it's not pragmatic it's bizarre weird culty gatekeeping like you don't have any friends who've ever said anything mean that you didn't like in your whole life it's an unreasonable not weird human position because if you if you're libertarian in any respect ron paul being like i'm gonna leave you alone you're like okay amazing we're done the man has done so much to advance liberty and
Starting point is 01:01:56 in spite of these weirdos who had control of the party for a few years ron paul even in the republican party grew the libertarian Party tenfold. Because a lot of times people would get politically engaged. They would go where Ron Paul was at and they would say, ugh, the rest of the party is nothing like you. And then they come and they join us. I'm glad he had kids because I like Rand Paul too. Yeah, I do too.
Starting point is 01:02:16 I do too. So we're onward and upward. So would you say Rand Paul is a Libertarian? I'd say he's pretty close. I think he's not totally sure if he's a libertarian or Republican, and that's probably his internal fight, and one day he'll sort it out. But I think he is by far the most libertarian senator we have. What's the difference between a libertarian and Republican,
Starting point is 01:02:38 like in Rand Paul's case? So it's going to be a little bit of foreign policy stuff, a little bit of foreign policy stuff, a little bit of budgetary stuff. And his, you know, endorsing Trump really hard also came with the baggage of endorsing a lot of his policies. And although I think Donald Trump was leaps and bounds better than Joe Biden, like he was not libertarian. He did not audit the Fed in his first hundred days like he said he would. He did deploy drone strikes to Syria. He did engage in economic foreign policy that I didn't like,
Starting point is 01:03:11 even though I loved that he didn't start new wars. You know, he was cracking down with tariffs and making things kind of messy for us in that respect. So those were things he did that were not libertarian. Of course, the border wall people flipped out and lost their minds on and the libertarian party the membership is kind of split on borders which other people don't want to admit i i think that the truth is the best thing that you should embrace and the reality is there are people in the party who do not want total open borders yeah it's not controversial to want ellis island style, by the way. That is not
Starting point is 01:03:45 a crazy closed borders position. I don't think people understand that you need borders. A country is defined as a nation with set boundaries, borders. And I've had these interesting conversations because I'm fairly libertarian with other libertarians who are like, you believe an imaginary line is going to keep me out. And then I'm just like, no, I think we limit our jurisdiction. Right. Like we say we won't send our armed dudes defending us beyond that line. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:16 And then if you cross that, you're now agreeing you're entering the territory where we have jurisdiction over what we think is appropriate for our society. I'm not an anarchist. I believe there's got to be some laws. There's got to be some agreement. You can have anarchy with laws, too. You can. Just privately provide law and order. You can.
Starting point is 01:04:32 And this is sort of the nuance that most people, just their eyes glaze over when you dig into it. But I'll try. Ideally, right, in your perfect world or your near-perfect world, since there's no utopia, we have private borders where everybody owns everything. Everything is privatized. You decide who comes across your borders. Now, the reality is that's not the world we live in.
Starting point is 01:04:53 And we have to deal with tragedy of the commons and we have to deal with our tax dollars. And so from a libertarian perspective, I would want as many people who are peaceful to be able to come here as possible. But I also wouldn't want to guarantee them the right to vote yeah because those two things those are totally separate and it's unfortunate they don't get separated in the immigration discussion there isn't something interesting that's happening with the way democrats are handling immigration is we're developing a service guarantee citizenship style uh governance i don't think it's completely bad, you know, Starship Trooper style, but I don't like the idea of them just opening up the border,
Starting point is 01:05:29 letting everybody come and then creating a surf class. Yeah, I don't like surf class. I don't like tying migration to voting rights and citizenship. If we got rid of birthright citizenship, that would be wild. If we got rid of,
Starting point is 01:05:42 like in our visa program that you can bring over your whole family, that would also be wild. These we got rid of, like in our visa program, that you can bring over your whole family, that would also be wild. These are some interesting things we could consider to make immigration less messy. We need to reconsider this. What people need to understand about voting, we have to hear from the left.
Starting point is 01:05:54 They say, it used to be that you could only, only rich white landowners were allowed to vote. And then it was like, well, you understand why that was. For one, yeah, racism, for sure. No problem. Like it's not the same as people view it today. It was like, it was different times. But the reason why landowning was a component
Starting point is 01:06:11 was because there were no IDs. If you lived here, you voted here. If you didn't live here, you didn't vote here. And so that's why it was the landowners were voting. Eventually, we were like, hey, you know, people are renting a lot. We should probably allow them to vote because they live here. It's like, oh, okay., people are renting a lot. We should probably allow them to vote because they live here.
Starting point is 01:06:25 It's like, oh, OK. If we are now getting into a new territory of, you know, the way we're handling immigration and everything, then we might want to update how we handle citizenship. Yeah. So we had birthright citizenship specifically because of the end of slavery. It wasn't intended to be that someone could, you know, in China, they do pregnancy tourism, birthing tourism. That a pregnant woman will come to the U.S. to give birth so their child will have dual citizenship and then they'll go back.
Starting point is 01:06:53 I have friends who were born here because of that exact thing. Now, I'm very sympathetic because their parents were terrified of communist China and were trying to ensure that their children would be able to grow up here and that they would have a place to flee. They were basically, you know, political refugees, which is a thing that I'm sensitive to. But that also doesn't necessarily mean that you need citizenship. Didn't Milton Friedman make the argument that open borders would be fine and dandy if we didn't have a welfare state? Yes. Like if there wasn't? Yes. There's a lot of issues, I suppose.
Starting point is 01:07:24 And we do. If we got rid of of that that would be a huge thing we can't have open borders and uh non-citizen census at the same time right so that's what's happening with california they're trying to let as many people in as possible because it gives them extra congressional seats and more electoral college votes and california does have welfare programs for people who are not citizens. They absolutely do. State-level welfare. Doesn't this argument apply to the state level too, though? Like people can move from Arizona to California to get more benefits.
Starting point is 01:07:56 So here's my biggest argument for closed borders. It's not people from Mexico or Canada coming in. It's people from California like me moving to Texas. I'm like, Texas, someone needs to build a wall around California. So we want inter-country closed borders, Texas closes its borders. Yep, states need to regulate. I think that might happen. So I was talking about abortion being a catalyst for civil war.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Yeah. And one of the scenarios that we talked about was what happens if in Texasxas where it's now banned a man and a woman you know hook up they're together at eight months they they split no one says there's no way i can have a baby without without him so i'm gonna go to colorado the man says i will i won't let you do it you're gonna kill my son and then she flees the question is then how does texas handle this conflict with colorado when the feds are like we're not being involved? They've got a law on the books right now that basically rewards snitching. It's intense. This is the part where, you know, like personally, like I'm pretty pro-life. I'm five months pregnant right now. Could never consider getting an abortion. I get a little
Starting point is 01:09:02 freaked out when the government starts incentivizing you to spy on your neighbor and turn them in for crimes. Oh, yeah. That's rough. There was this company, I remember, like 15 years ago that was telling people to go outside their house and write down all the license plates and they would pay them. And then I was just like, I saw people posting on Facebook about it. And then I was like, spying on your neighbors for cash. Wow. And they're like, oh, well, I mean,
Starting point is 01:09:25 because they didn't realize what they were doing. They were dumb people. We had it in California in the city of LA during lockdowns. There were hotlines and tip numbers
Starting point is 01:09:33 to report businesses that were defiling. So what I did was I very carefully took little screenshots of the California website and all their official announcements and I got my own number
Starting point is 01:09:44 and superimposed it and plastered it all over the city. So you could call 559-I'm-a-Nazi. I didn't type that out. I typed out the numbers, but it is 559-I'm-a-Nazi. And it was a fake tip line. Wow. And you would get trolled as you reported your neighbors. Didn't they have people snitching on each other because you could only work out one time a day
Starting point is 01:10:05 in some places? Australia. So I was thinking about this scenario and then one thing I was thinking of is like, it's probably easier to put it as, what happens if in Texas there's a federal military base and there's a woman and a man and they have a kid and then eight months, she's either
Starting point is 01:10:21 a service woman or something and so she goes in for this procedure and they approve it what is texas going to do file a lawsuit and it's going to get argued at the supreme court i don't know if they're going to file a lawsuit well the state of texas i mean absolutely will didn't they file that what you're saying is the state will look the man in the eye and say your son will die and then we'll take it to the courts yes i can't imagine the man's going to be like i'm going to let my kid die well we'll probably see him on the news in some tragic incident but that is how government operates yeah is it's a slow-moving creature well sort of if i design
Starting point is 01:10:56 if a woman kidnapped a fit a if the child is born at eight months yes no man rushes him into a military base they're going to bring around give the son back and say we can't do that but if it's in in her womb they can say it's viable we we could deliver it but we're gonna kill it see and that's why we have like man it's terrible but the reality is that people do not agree even and i think some of them are being disingenuous but they do not agree about women when human life begins and that's what got us into this whole argument. I know. Abortion is such a topic that when it comes up, we go crazy. But I just have to say, life begins at conception. There you go.
Starting point is 01:11:34 Anyone who's arguing otherwise is lying to you, period. That's when life begins. Now, you can argue human consciousness. You can argue ensoulment. They do. All those things happen at different points. I don't care. But a unique set of DNA is in cellular reproduction, independent.
Starting point is 01:11:51 That's life. And the goalposts will move in this argument, I think, throughout eternity, which is why I am so in favor of people just peacefully separating in this country as much as they can, as much as they can as much as they can if that just means strong federalism and aggressive states rights i'll take that over something worse we saw what happened you know when we had some states that believed in denying personhood in some states that didn't and you got people like john brown so i feel like if if we go here's what i see happening. If we go the national divorce route,
Starting point is 01:12:26 we peacefully say, you guys do your thing. Or we go even strong federalism. Let's say- Strong federalism, yeah. Let's say strong- That's always gonna be that way, right? You'll get a Supreme Court
Starting point is 01:12:34 that's hostile to state's rights and then they'll change, it'll just keep changing back and forth. Well, but here, outside of that, let's say because of the speed at which communication technology- Yeah, it's different now than it was back then.
Starting point is 01:12:46 Let's say we get strong federalism. We end up with Republicans winning in November. We end up with Donald Trump winning in 2024. And then people just keep these people are like Trump fires everybody. All of a sudden, the administrative state, the federal level is crippled. The federal government loses tons of power. Texas says, Colorado, we don't care what you do. Then what happens when you get one of these scenarios where a guy's son is taken?
Starting point is 01:13:10 Because the woman is pregnant and she says, I'm not going to deliver this for you because we're fighting and we don't like each other anymore. This guy goes to Texas without a strong federal government to intervene. Texas either says, yes, we'll help save your son or we won't. They might say, look, we're not going to go and take a woman like it's never going to happen. So he says, I'm forming a posse. What does Colorado do when a band of armed dudes go in to rescue their child? What would happen if a woman kidnapped a two-year-old, the two-year-old child, jumped state lines and law enforcement across the board said, we will not get you your son back.
Starting point is 01:13:45 Even though we know it's a crime, we know your son's in danger, and she has expressed she will kill him. I think that you're likely to have a violent standoff, which is terrible. But we are already encountering situations like that. I mean, what happened with Ammon Bundy? Right. Like, it's just... They killed that guy.
Starting point is 01:14:02 You saw that video? It was terrible. In the car... So this is when, for those who aren't familiar, they were occupying... First, it's the land dispute. Then it was they were occupying a BLM building. And there's a video of this group driving in a car. And then you see the window shatter.
Starting point is 01:14:17 They were fired at. Dude jumps out. And then... I could be wrong. It's been a long time. But he reaches into his chest holster or something. And then they just unload on him. This is a Bureau of Land Management building.
Starting point is 01:14:28 You said BLM, yeah? Yeah, Bureau of Land Management. Not to be confused. And it was like the second incident with the bunnies, I think. And this guy, they argued, well, he reached for weapons, so we shot him. And then people pointed out, you shot at him first, and he was reaching in self-defense. This is why we need police choice we talked about this two years ago i'm not as i'm not as the police i'm not as libertarian as y'all
Starting point is 01:14:50 when it comes to all of that stuff i mean you agree with school choice right the reason that schools do such a shitty job is because they have geographic monopolies you can make these same argument for police departments you can't hold them accountable from the bottom up if they either discriminate and kill innocent people or if they just don't come in time it's but it's but it is different it's you know law enforcement we have people with guns going around shooting people we need strict accountability we need a set of ground rules that apply to everybody constitutional rights so what i like is duly elected law enforcement sheriffs sheriffs i don't like appointed police in big cities that are super crooked.
Starting point is 01:15:26 I would go either way. I would go duly elected law enforcement or privatized police where their contracts do not continue in perpetuity. That is very important. I think police should be held to a higher standard. Yes, they should. We've got to end qualified immunity. That's really critical. And we need to make it much easier to go after their bail or their bond or their insurance. Because you can do that, but it's so difficult and complicated and obnoxious.
Starting point is 01:15:54 It should just be possible. I really just think it comes down to we have a cultural problem. We do. Absolutely. So if, you know, I look at these old tropes of officer friendly. You know, he's walking down, everyone's waving a free hot dog for you, officer. And the cop was concerned that if he screwed up, the whole community is going to get mad
Starting point is 01:16:11 at him. So he's got to be this good guy. These days, it's like you're in a city and the cops like, don't know you, don't care, tell it to a judge. Yep. I'm not sticking my neck out for you. You get a cop who accidentally commits a crime, and then they cover for him. In New York, I personally witnessed a false arrest of a photographer.
Starting point is 01:16:32 I was lucky enough to have filmed it. And then the false charges were dropped, and the cops lied under oath and got away with it. I've seen him shoot at and harass homeless people in Skid Row. Now, I know that a lot of homeless people in Skid Row have psychological issues they can be a danger to others and themselves but i've spent years down there doing volunteer work and completely unarmed and i've been able to de-escalate situations with violent people so i'm a i'm a small woman and so i didn't have the need to shoot anyone i would like to think that law enforcement with proper training can at least be as good as I am. Cultural decay in cities.
Starting point is 01:17:11 You know, as far as I've experienced living in the suburbs and in rural areas, no issue with sheriff's department. Deputies, always calm, reasonable. It's probably because of density. In New York, though, you know, I lived on the block where a black nationalist executed two cops minding their own business, sitting in a car. But what people need to understand, too, is that that guy he didn't live there he shut up to this neighborhood just to kill these guys yeah he posted you take two of ours we take two of yours or something like that as a reference to michael brown but on the street every night there are
Starting point is 01:17:37 floodlights on every corner and cops like it's basically an occupation they're the fifth largest standing army in the world that's insane new y New York Police Department. So you go outside when I was living in this neighborhood at night, there's two cops on every street corner, large floodlights, and it's like in a residential neighborhood. People there don't take kindly to living that way, man. And so it breeds animosity. And there's a lot of people who do like it because it's unsafe. They feel like it's unsafe. Well, it's out of necessity. It's not like they chose it and said, please put up floodlights in my neighborhood and patrol with guns. Yeah, and I lived across the street from all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:18:12 But then you had a guy who came, I think he came from like Baltimore or something, and he walked up to the car and he just killed these cops. So the issue, I think, is cities are too dense. The culture is too fractured. This idea of multiculturalism is just... It's a failed experiment. Yeah, we've outsourced our governance to D.C. It's insane.
Starting point is 01:18:29 Like, you can't have 700 people or 1,000 people govern 350 million. It's not happening. We're ungoverned, essentially. And then they're passing 1,000-page bills and stuff without reading them. I think the other problem is a lot of the over-criminalization with victimless crimes. And if you had more drug legalization, for example, you wouldn't need as much rights enforcement done by gangs because it would be things that are legal on the books. But you would be able to enforce it through the police instead of through gangs. But where would Kamala Harris get her slave labor to put out wildfires? Drug enforcement's...
Starting point is 01:19:07 Truancy. I wonder what you guys think about drug enforcement. Because you were saying earlier legalized drugs. You had mentioned Portugal that had, in 2000, an experiment where they legalized, maybe not every drug, but a lot of drugs nationally. I'm not sure exactly how that turned out. But like, drugs are getting more potent,
Starting point is 01:19:22 more addictive. Pharmaceutical companies are building them. Are you also saying that pharmaceutical companies should be able to legally sell heroin to kids? Those are already legal. Well, let's think about how that would work like in reality. You go into CVS or drugstores. Most even baby formulas locked up. So I don't anticipate that there are going to be a lot of places that would actually sell hard drugs like heroin to children.
Starting point is 01:19:46 I couldn't even get diet pills when I was like 18. I remember having a friend who really wanted to get diet pills when she was 18. It was like illegal. Well, the highly potent drugs are arguably because of them being illegal. So it's easier to transport large amounts when they're super dense. Also true. And when cannabis, cannabis, you know, I, I was suffering horribly from Crohn's disease and was able to use cannabis to alleviate pain. And also some of the horrible GI tract symptoms I had, the alternative is opioids and things like tramadol. That's the only one that's actually
Starting point is 01:20:23 safe for people with GI pain, but that's still an opioid that's addictive. It's a horse tranquilizer. What about like elimination diet like Michaela Peterson? Oh, that's what I did. I had to go hardcore, very strict carnivore diet. It worked? Yes, it did within about 72 hours.
Starting point is 01:20:38 So by the way, the doctor was going to take out my colon. I'm in my 30s. They were going to put a bag in me, give it a year, give it a year. And if it wasn't fixed, take the colon out. Insane. I'm a woman of childbearing age, and they were going to take out my organs. And I hung up the phone. And after pumping me full of many pharmaceutical drugs, I tried all the
Starting point is 01:21:06 things I'd hugged a purple crystal. I had everything in between. I don't care. I'll try it. And I was like, the only choice I have left is to try a radical change to my diet. Cause I've tried the first, you know, 20 hits on Google and was it the gluten? No, I'd, I'd been on a gluten free, very healthy vegan diet for 15 years exactly. So when I say healthy vegan, I'd been on a gluten-free, very healthy vegan diet for 15 years exactly. So when I say healthy vegan, I mean, I wasn't just, I wasn't eating like vegan powdered donuts. Well, what was causing it? Do you know? Stress, inflammation.
Starting point is 01:21:35 I had toxic mold in my house. It was a number of factors that built up to the point where I could not tolerate any food. I was down to eating five things. Sweet potatoes, avocados, dates, something else. I could occasionally eat a Beyond Burger, but not an Impossible Burger. That was really it. Mustard. And so I changed my diet. I had to get very high to be able to eat meat because it was so disgusting to me. And within about 72 hours, my horrible gastrointestinal internal bleeding and violent spasming had changed.
Starting point is 01:22:07 I would have spasms that were so bad it was partial paralysis for me every morning. Every morning. Two hours. But you started eating meat. I started eating nothing but meat. Wow. And I didn't have any other food cravings for three months. Nothing but meat?
Starting point is 01:22:22 Nothing. A salad? Salt? Meat, salt, and water. That is it. Wow. Where'd you get your vitamins from? Meat, salt, and water. Meat has all the vitamins you need.
Starting point is 01:22:34 It's got what plants crave. Apparently so. And within 72 hours, the worst of it was gone. And within a year, I was almost back to normal. Well, it's like they say meat is magic did you get rid of the black mold that when your environment i moved i had to move out of the house huge yeah i hear that's insane black mold toxicity just i have other friends who are who
Starting point is 01:22:53 are on healthy vegan diets i'm not talking about the weird uh soylent green that's come out into the into markets lately but they totally thrive but they didn't have the stress levels that i did combined with the toxic mold and the other weirdness going on so wow yeah life changing i i was eating a lot of grains last year and uh like my weight was going up and down in like uh 2018 i started losing weight and then i started eating bread and garbage and not really caring about it and started gaining more weight. And then in November, I just stopped eating sugar. Yeah. So now, so I've, I've reduced it a little bit.
Starting point is 01:23:32 It was like, I totally cut it out. Yeah. Like all the way down. Maybe it was like 10 carbs per day, just like carbs as an aside, like what I might be getting from some vegetables. And now I'm doing like, you know, 25 to 40 carbs per day. Nice. But my health has greatly improved. My energy is way up.
Starting point is 01:23:45 It was bad. I used to finish my morning segment, then I would eat dinner, and then just fall asleep, and then wake up an hour before this show and like groggily just... Yeah. And then I was just like, well, it's because you get tired when you eat. And then I stopped eating the grains. It's what you eat. And now I just feel like I've got electricity surging through me 24-7.
Starting point is 01:24:02 That you do. So since becoming pregnant, by the way, and this is another good thing to know, like when you're pregnant, you have kind of free-floating stem cells in your body. I have been able to eat a lot more. I can eat fruit. I had a couple, there's only one brand,
Starting point is 01:24:16 but I had a couple of gluten-free cookies earlier today. Didn't kill me, not bleeding out of every orifice of my body. You know, obviously. I'd look like an Ebola victim earlier. You wouldn't want me in here wouldn't want me in here it's terrifying well it seems to be working out what so you speak in my language about diet healing the body yeah what so then when we talk about legalizing drugs i'm concerned i just watched this dope sick movie i was talking to you guys about earlier about the sackler family and um purdue pharma sending basically telling everyone that oxycontin is not addictive that was was their official statement from the FDA approved it.
Starting point is 01:24:45 And they sold all this to all these people, killed millions, like hundreds of thousands of people got addicted and got into heroin because they couldn't get their Oxy. So what if we legalize drugs, then not only would pharmaceutical companies be able to pump stuff like potent OxyContin into 12 year olds, but like so could people on the street i would imagine and it would just be like i mean they already do though regulate it it's so easy to get it that they could
Starting point is 01:25:11 still regulate it so there's all different varying degrees of regulation that it could or could not go through but i gotta tell you man it is they're pumping kids full of ritalin in schools like you're moving too much you have you get in trouble if you don't put your kid on ritalin in schools. You're moving too much. You have ADHD. You get in trouble if you don't put your kid on Ritalin in public schools. So I think that problem is already there. I do think it would be easier for us to expose it if a lot more things were deregulated. And this would also, when I say legalize or deregulate or decriminalize drugs, we're talking about you could have cannabis instead of opioids. It's much safer, much, much safer.
Starting point is 01:25:47 Also for children. There are so many remarkable stories about little kids taking Rick Simpson oil and THC concentrates for major seizure disorders. These poor kids. I knew a guy whose kid had epilepsy. And so he had a mon a keto diet and medicinal marijuana. Yep, I've known several of them. Did he heal some of the symptoms?
Starting point is 01:26:12 I don't know for sure. My understanding is that it helped, but I don't know to what degree. I know that he was always concerned and always calling and checking in. It's a reduction. I mean, these kids, when I say they have seizures, I don't mean they have a seizure a couple times a day.
Starting point is 01:26:26 They would be having seizures on the minute every minute. It's almost like you're barely alive. You're surviving. You've got a pulse, but I don't know if I'd call it living. And so to go from that to having a seizure a few times a day is like a huge improvement. Why do you think that marijuana is still Schedule I narcotic federally? Because opioids.
Starting point is 01:26:46 Competition. Yeah, I'm pretty sure they don't want to lose that. Yeah. Yeah, it seems like marijuana is, and hemp in general, is just tons of different use cases. It's just incredible. It's just incredible. Yeah. You can take it like I do when you go to sleep and you don't even feel getting high.
Starting point is 01:27:03 I don't really like to get high. It is recreationally legal in many different states, and feel getting high. I don't really like to get high. Well, it is recreationally legal in many different states. And I think we're getting really, really close to... 30, 34 states maybe? Where it's... Well... Not in West Virginia, though. Yeah, 34 states, I believe it's medically legal and recreational.
Starting point is 01:27:18 Yeah, West Virginia is... Medically. I have faith. They have a good libertarian party. Maryland is decriminalized. But there's no recreational legality or anything like that. It's just like, I think if you have it, they don't care or something. But after a certain amount they do, I'm not entirely sure.
Starting point is 01:27:33 West Virginia, it's strictly illegal. Dude, thinking that the pharmaceutical industry is focused on treatment, it's like a treatment industry. They're not looking for cures. They're looking to develop new treatments experimentally like i i okay i got more to say on it but i'm absolutely sickened that that we would allow this this beast to to thrive i had another point that i'm going to make but i'll i was told nothing i ate would affect or change my diet no or my health that's the craziest thing you don't really annoy me is when people say all that matters is calories in calories out you know if like you're trying to lose weight calories and i'm like are you joking if you eat nothing but sugar but look you're you're not getting protein
Starting point is 01:28:13 it's medical tyranny we talk a lot about like government military tyranny um about like corporate tyranny you know what they call it i guess like but the medical tyranny is a real thing and it can really exist and i'm wondering are we like in a system like that right now well i mean i think that's what the fda does food pyramid network because so we can't get cannabis legalized even though it's saving children from like a life of hell with with seizure disorders and keeping me from having my colon ripped out of my body but we can fast track all kinds of other strange experimental drugs over the last couple years. But then we were expected to not talk about, say things that weren't true about it. Like that was all of a sudden, like that's the tyrannical part when people are like,
Starting point is 01:28:57 no, no, no, we're going to follow the CDC implicitly out in front. And that's like, dude, that's antithetical to our system. I would like, when the Republicans win, to have an inquiry into the CDC. And I want to see communications with the World Health Organization. I want to see what they were approving, why they were approving it.
Starting point is 01:29:16 I want to hear Dr. Fauci testify as to everything that happened. And there's just, look, I'm not going to get into anything beyond that. I don't know. I just know that we need an inquiry from Congress. We had under oath statements. We need to know when that information was coming in.
Starting point is 01:29:29 And maybe there's a whole lot of incompetence. Maybe there's a whole lot of uncertainty. And maybe there's malice. Either way, I'd like to hear it. Rand Paul is working on it. He's great. The most libertarian Republican there is, is working on it. So it's up to the rest of them to have the backbone.
Starting point is 01:29:43 I shout out to seamus coglin of freedom tunes because we've we've done a couple uh fauci and rand paul cartoons mocking the whole thing of you know rand paul questioning yeah fauci about what's going on and stuff like that so i really do appreciate rand paul's work and uh it's remarkable to me that there's still people on twitter that are advocating for full lockdown policies and i'm like we're long since you you know, over this. You still have some places like in D.C. in order to go to school, age is 12 and up. You have to get a vaccine to go back to school this coming fall.
Starting point is 01:30:13 Still in 2022. You know, to enter the United States, people from outside the U.S. have to get vaccinated to come here. Now, my understanding is that the U.S. doesn't have a check system on it. It's the airlines that do. And some airlines don't. And they're not that the U.S. doesn't have a check system on it. It's the airlines that do, and some airlines don't. Correct. And they're not all electronic verification. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:29 Some of them are paper. But I will also say there's absolutely zero verification if you enter the southern border illegally. Yes. Which is what a lot of people are doing, and we're not checking for- Actually, I know a few people who did that to get around getting vaccinated. Just like walking across the border? They snuck in. Wow.
Starting point is 01:30:48 Well, they were already in the U.S. They had to leave. And then in order to come back with visas and everything. That's just so wrong. You know, look, the fact that law-abiding citizens know there's an open door they can't go through, and it's the people who break the law who walk through it. We got a serious problem there. The people who are respecting our laws are the ones we want to come here the people who don't
Starting point is 01:31:07 respect our laws are the ones we don't want coming here like i i think like every immigrant should be able to come to the united states as long as they do it legally exactly like trump said legally it's just like gun control these laws are not helping out law-abiding citizens exactly i think the the issue is you have people just walking through the desert, they're going to get sick, they're going to die. Oh, it's a terrible, it's a terrible thing to experience. People leave,
Starting point is 01:31:30 there's a group called Border Angels that goes out and leaves water for people in the desert who are traveling. They don't do escorting of immigrants as far as I know. They just try to leave water out. They'll go through
Starting point is 01:31:42 and they'll find the water jugs have had holes shot in them. Well, I'm pretty sure it's illegal. There were a group of people, they left food and water'll go through and they'll find the water jugs have had holes shot in them. Well, I'm pretty sure it's illegal. There were a group of people. They left food and water on the desert. They got arrested. And they were like, we were just trying to help people.
Starting point is 01:31:52 And then they said something about causing problems for wildlife pollution. Like you can't just leave garbage in the middle of the desert. Things like that. What do you guys think about states like Texas sending immigrants over to D.C.? Well, my first response was that it's just helping them. That's what they want. The Democrats have
Starting point is 01:32:09 been shipping illegal immigrants across the country. So all they're doing is helping them get to the center of the country. Yeah. But many people commented saying Texas can't deport them. So make the problem not Texas. And it's like, OK, well, fair point. And then Muriel Bowser panicked and called in the National Guard because they're overwhelmed. This is an interesting juxtaposition with the national divorce argument. I feel like, I'm not quite sure how, but somehow it's related. Texas has a problem,
Starting point is 01:32:34 and they're like, you know, we're just going to put, we're just going to ship our problem somewhere else. We're not technically our own country, but we're just going to export our problems over to you. I'd imagine California would load up all their homestead buses and send them to Arizona if they didn't need
Starting point is 01:32:48 the population for their congressional seats. Are the Olympics coming? I don't know. To LA? Oh, I don't know. I believe the Olympics are coming to LA. Wow. There has been talk of how they're going to deal with the homelessness crisis,
Starting point is 01:33:04 including putting people on cruise ships yeah 2028 summer olympics los angeles here's what they can do they can get blankets that look like rocks oh man throw them on top problem solved just nobody will see them you're not a side out of mind huh you got to see skid row that would be a giant gravel quarry it would be wild have you been there lately yeah when was last time uh three months ago well how's it doing what's it look like it's an open air asylum it's uh hypodermic needles and human waste in the streets uh people having mental breakdowns in the hospital gowns. Wow. And it's grown. It's spread exponentially. That's sad.
Starting point is 01:33:49 So like I was there when it was just the 6th Street, basically. Oh, yeah. No, it's much bigger than 6th Street. It's crossed Maine, I think. It's growing and growing. Well, how many block radius is it, would you consider the homeless encampment? Oh, that's a really good question because I don't know how far south it's stretched so it goes to that industrial area the flower district over to 8th and 9th street and now it's spilled past 8th and 9th up past maine and then in the other
Starting point is 01:34:18 direction i'm not really sure it's i mean it's what it's it's almost half of downtown LA at this point. If you were to look at it as a concentration of how many homeless encampments there are, it's half of downtown LA. What's the libertarian solution to the homeless crisis? Is it privatize the roads and privatize the sidewalks? Well, we have to end the tragedy of commons. There's no perfect solution, but part of it is to end all of the entitlement programs that people flock to in downtown LA. At this point, it's just inhuman. And it's also dishonest
Starting point is 01:34:50 because they make all these promises and people camp out desperately waiting. There is literally a nine-year wait list in Santa Monica for free housing. And in downtown LA, six years ago, it was a two and a half year wait. Now it's much longer. Let's go to chats if y'all haven't already would you kindly smash that like button subscribe to this channel and share the show take that url post it wherever if you really do like it head over to timcast.com we're gonna have a members only uncensored show coming up at 11 p.m or so it's gonna be a lot of fun we've got more to talk about california and illinois have declared a monkeypox emergency and considering the let's say adult nature of the circumstances, we're going to have that one be uncensored for all of you.
Starting point is 01:35:30 But in the meantime, we'll read your super chats. All right. Sam Robinson says, we don't bow down to threats. Hear, hear. As much as I don't like Nancy Pelosi, China doesn't get to decide when we have someone go and meet with a delegation or government officials. Did she end up flying there with fighter jet escort? Yep. That was their big issue. Yes, she did. That's why they're out there. I think she had like four. Well, you know, I think of it from our perspective, if China was having delegate
Starting point is 01:35:57 meetings in like Tijuana and then they had a bunch of fighter jets fly in, we'd be on high alert too. I would be concerned. And it's about commitment strategies. I mean, if Tim was coming into DC and I was like, and you were meeting with Joe Biden, I didn't like that. And I was like, well, you know what? I'm going to get a bunch of people to beat Tim up. It wouldn't be in his best interest to just back down and say, oh, I'm going to back down every time someone tries to challenge me. No one has addressed diplomacy yet. Could we try better diplomacy? Yeah, I want to video chat with Joe Biden and Xi Jinping. I want to watch.
Starting point is 01:36:31 Yes. Well, I mean, Xi was like, you play with fire, you'll be burned. And Biden was like, oh. That's how I imagine it happened. He's quoted as saying that, play with fire, you'll get burned. And we're not trying very hard. All right. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim, dude, have you been taking motivational speaking classes saying that play with fire you'll get burned we're not trying very hard all right raymond g stanley
Starting point is 01:36:45 jr says tim dude have you been taking motivational speaking classes that 4 p.m was top notch we do need more scott presslers we do need to knock on doors we need action i volunteer volunteer as tribute at four i was basically saying the primaries are today right so they're gonna the the polls are gonna be closing soon yep if I don't care what party you represent or whatever. You need to get three of your friends, go out and vote. You need to stop thinking about whether you're going to win or lose and just stand by what you believe in and encourage as many people as possible to be involved. Because what I was basically saying is 30 to 40 seat loss for Democrats.
Starting point is 01:37:21 The Democrats better get out if they really believe it and get every single person there to vote. And if you're a Republican and you're seeing that when the enemy is retreating, you don't just say, OK, stop, everybody. We're done. No, no, no. You say route the enemy charge like the Patriot when Mel Gibson had the flag and he's running in. Everything has to be a reference to the Patriot based. Joe says you can feel the excitement. Right. And then I think that's like twenty five black flag emojis. I like that they have black flag emojis, you know? And then I think that's like 25 black flag emojis. I like that they have black flag emojis, you know? Yes, I do too.
Starting point is 01:37:49 It's very anarchist. Yeah, I'm wondering like, why do they have that? Do they not have like black and yellow or black and red? Not yet, not yet. But why the black flag? That's a really interesting choice for them to make as an emoji, you know? Yeah. Oh, wow. Waffle Sensei says, Tim, I confirmed 16 friends for 16 votes.
Starting point is 01:38:09 All anti-critical race theory. All America first. All base. Now we just wait and see, bro. Yeah. Let's go. That's what I'm talking about. You know what?
Starting point is 01:38:18 General election day, we're going to have like a, we're going out for a big major pizza party and then everyone's going to hop on and then we're going to stop over the local voting place and be like, all right, everybody, we're going out for a big major pizza party and then everyone's going to hop on and then we're going to stop over the local voting place and be like all right everybody we're gonna just real quick vote i'm not gonna tell you to vote for i don't like playing those stupid games where it's like ian did you vote did you vote for my guy you should vote so i just tell people to vote for who i want them to vote for i'm real real overt about it i don't i don't like it i want people to vote if you if you vote for someone i don't agree with, well, this is the way it works. I mean, I'll make recommendations
Starting point is 01:38:48 on who I wish you would vote for. But the questioning afterwards, the grilling, who did you vote? I'm not going to talk to you. You don't need to do that. You just need to say, how do you feel about the American flag? Interesting. And if they say, oh, I love it, be like, okay. You can come with me. We're going to vote.
Starting point is 01:39:04 No, I wouldn't do that as a prerequisite or anything. I just think whatever libertarian, Democrat, Republican, you better be telling everybody you know to go and vote. I'm not telling my Democrat friends that. Vote. They need to stay home and stay safe and save lives. All right. I mean, considering the threats. But my thing is, like, I'm not going to ask.
Starting point is 01:39:24 I'm just going to be like, take your friends. Because my thing is, like, I'm not going to ask. I'm just going to be like, take your friends. Because the reality is, look, I don't need to. Most people, they watch the show. They're not voting for critical race theory. They're not voting for authoritarianism. They're going to end up voting libertarian or Republican or something. Well, and pay attention to the off-cycle elections, too. I mean, you have some of these school board elections and these other local elections
Starting point is 01:39:43 on bonds for the schools where the teachers unions basically get all of their people to show up. And it's a low turnout election. So special interests can take over, which is another conversation altogether. Those should be aligned with the general. Strider says, as a proud Missourian, I can confirm I did indeed vote for Eric. Oh, he was also endorsed by Trump. The one. Yes, the one.
Starting point is 01:40:04 The Eric. Man, Trump is a funny guy. he was also endorsed by trump the one yes the one the eric man trump is i wonder if funny i think when he trump my guess is that he was like i i endorse eric and he forgot his last name so he's just like whatever and then later he heard there were multiple erics and he was like i'm just gonna let him sweat what if what if it splits the eric vote and then someone else wins no for real that's yeah he says thanks for the advice trump keep up the amazing work tim you got me into politics well glad glad to see it um i just want people to be involved you know all right let's grab some more what do you have here james alfred says tim you could be one of the families picnicking at fort sumter do say it won't happen they thought the same that's what
Starting point is 01:40:40 i'm saying like maybe it'll happen maybe you know You know, the scary thing about the Pelosi thing is it doesn't need to be a PLA army soldier, like, running up and going like, Nancy Pelosi. It could be just a crazy Taiwanese guy. Yes. It could be a Franz Ferdinand type situation. It could be a dumb false flag, too. Don't buy the hype. Stay calm.
Starting point is 01:40:59 Some jet gets shot down somewhere on Earth. Don't snap to firing a missile. There's a guy runs up and yells, for the Chinese Communist Party, in like North American English. And they're like, well, that's what he said. So yeah, you got to be careful about this stuff. All right. Corey Bollig says, I've been watching Pop Culture Crisis.
Starting point is 01:41:17 It's a chill show and you should check it out. It is a very chill show. If you guys are overwhelmed by the absurdity and insanity of conflict and crisis and politics. You can go watch Pop Culture Crisis and have a laugh as money guns
Starting point is 01:41:29 fire money into the air and people talk about video games, movies, and TV shows. Her bit on Ezra, what's his last name? Ezra Miller.
Starting point is 01:41:36 Ezra Miller. It's very funny. Marries? Yes. Yeah. Entertaining. Pop Culture Crisis is a fantastic show.
Starting point is 01:41:42 We're going to be doing like, we're letting it get into the role, like the flow of things, you know, establishing their presence, getting a feel for like how they schedule and time it out. They've been being held hostage because the super chats come in so much. They just stick around for everybody. And then after, probably in a couple of months, we're going to do a big marketing push. We already got Brett and Mary up on Times Square billboards promoting the show.
Starting point is 01:42:03 I saw. So the laser eyes coming out of Mary. The laser eyes for Mary. Yes, I like Mary. Mary restores my faith in Gen Z. I'm like, maybe we're not all doomed. Things can turn around. Which is on the show where like, she's a representative of all Gen Z.
Starting point is 01:42:18 This is how they all are. They're all good. I want to believe. Yeah, yeah. Close your eyes. They're all good. All right, let's see. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says,
Starting point is 01:42:27 folks support Taiwan, but not Ukraine. Why? Chips? I think, I don't know, do the Ukraine people support Taiwan too? Well, did Hunter Biden go over there and have a job and soak up a bunch of money?
Starting point is 01:42:43 There's differences. I mean, we were working with Ukraine on certain things, but it wasn't the same as Taiwan. Correct. Taiwan, we've been working with for some time now. And even before the Chinese government fell. I mean, you know. I think that Ukraine has, regardless of what's true, an air, a vibe of corruption that is yucky.
Starting point is 01:43:03 And a lot of people don't like that. And no one is getting that vibe or feeling from Taiwan yet. a vibe of corruption that is yucky. And a lot of people don't like that. And no one is getting that vibe or feeling from Taiwan yet. Ligama Thigayen says, China faces imminent economic and demographic collapse. It must move now if it is to, quote,
Starting point is 01:43:17 become economically developed before becoming demographically old. If they are to make their go, if they're to make their go to be global hegemon or even a superpower at all during the century, they must act now. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, right? That's my concern is. Kyle Miller says the invasion of Taiwan would be our generation Falkland war.
Starting point is 01:43:41 Economic issues in Argentina made them decide to invade the Falklands to divert attention from their issues. Very interesting. Very interesting assessment. That was recent, too, that Falkland. What was that, the early 80s? When the British? 70s? That was nuts. That's really wild to hear about modern war like that. Man.
Starting point is 01:43:59 Rick Ramorsan Lemeskate says, World War I, four years. Civil War, four years. World War II, four years. Civil War, four years. World War II, six years. For the fourth turning to be done by 2028, it's going to have to start this year or next, unless the cycles are getting longer, faster velocity, longer wavelength. Y'all know about the Strauss-Howe generational theory, right? Yes.
Starting point is 01:44:18 So there's four seasons every 20 years. Revolutionary War, 80 years later, Civil War. 80 years later, World Wars I and II. Yep. 80 years later. Something. What do we got? Something.
Starting point is 01:44:33 So the interesting thing is it goes international conflict and the revolution, internal conflict and Civil War, international conflict with the World War I and II. Will it be internal conflict? I'm hoping that it shifts a little bit in what we see as an economic or information war. Or
Starting point is 01:44:50 space conflict. Or aliens conflict. Whatever. I'll take it as long as it's not people killing each other in the streets. Let's find a different conflict. It's aliens killing people in the streets and humans fighting back. Can't they just kill them in space? Yes. Do you remember when the Space Force launched?
Starting point is 01:45:06 Yes. And then we saw the uniforms and they were like, they were like a jungle camera or whatever. Yes. The left started making fun of them and posting images of like what their suit should look like.
Starting point is 01:45:16 And it was like, their suit was like stars and galaxy stuff. And then everyone had to point out to them, the Space Force isn't fighting wars in outer space. And even if they were, they would be in spaceships, not floating around aim wars in outer space and even if they were they would be in spaceships not floating around aimlessly in space and even if they were they wouldn't want to be invisible to their own allies like the idea that you would wear space camo is insane the whole thing is insane yeah well i mean the space force itself makes sense you know it's like
Starting point is 01:45:41 basically we have space technology dedicated to satellites and all those resources oh there's stuff already up there absolutely yeah what people don't understand is you know the the uh the stargate program and the warships that we already have and uh we've we've traveled to multiple planets and but humans will learn of that when the aliens demon ready i just think i understand the criticism of camo maybe why can't we go navy blue yeah this guy's got a navy blue when they're in the navy in water this is netflix drops space force official poster and official teaser trailer so steve carell with like it looks like the moon his outfit and then he's got the moon behind him so he's camoed into the moon oh silly silly yeah all right
Starting point is 01:46:22 1776 his Life says, economic question for all, what is the better investment in the next 10 years, land or crypto? That's a tough, tough choice, to be honest, because... I would say land or Bitcoin. I would not say land or crypto.
Starting point is 01:46:35 That's what I was going to say. What do you mean by crypto? Because Bitcoin... Look, if you bought Bitcoin when it peaked at 20K like a few years ago, like was it five years ago, and then it collapsed and they all made fun of you,
Starting point is 01:46:46 you're still up. If you just held on to it, you're up. It's not 60K like it was. But it's still up. And the dollar is down. Right. Land, however, land is always good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:57 So land is good. Land can be taken from you. I guess, you know, under extreme circumstances, especially if you're on Coinbase, your Bitcoin can be taken from you. But it's a lot harder. The thing, the cool thing about Bitcoin, though, is you memorize your wallet, you can flee the country and you still got money in your pocket. Maddie G says, Tim, today is the 58th anniversary of the Gulf of Tonkin incident, August 2nd,
Starting point is 01:47:20 1964. It is, I checked. Yeah, there we go. That's wild. Olivia Angolia says, Tim, would you consider doing billboards in Frederick, Frederick, Maryland for the education,
Starting point is 01:47:31 not indoctrination slate? Let's go. Sure. I don't know anything about it, but OK. I like that phrase. That's really good. We go to we go to Frederick quite a bit
Starting point is 01:47:40 or I don't know if it's pronounced Frederick or Frederick, but we're centralizing everything we do in West Virginia. And I'm much know if it's pronounced Frederick or Frederick. But we're centralizing everything we do in West Virginia and I'm much more concerned with West Virginia because the best part
Starting point is 01:47:50 was when the cops in West Virginia told me that Maryland is communist and I was like, I like these cops. These are good cops. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:56 The billboard thing is cool. I need to start having the National Libertarian Party do that. It's cheap. In Times Square, obviously, it's more expensive
Starting point is 01:48:05 but it's actually cheaper than people realize you know how much it costs for one display on a billboard like your ad will appear one time in times where it's 20 bucks oh nice but um you have to you have to you like you have to buy 10 well i had such an ordeal trying to get electronic billboards in la after 2018. They rejected every single thing I tried. Politics. There's rules about it. So you can't do anything political in Times Square for the most part. Yeah. Oh, and I tried making them less political and just liberty, embraced freedom. That kicked me off. Yeah. We asked our agency if we could do a billboard on one of the biggest that said Twitter is protecting pedophiles. And they said, no, unfortunately.
Starting point is 01:48:48 They said, sorry, we don't allow ads that have anything to do with pedophilia. And I was like, I get it. You know, it is what it is. They were like, we'll let you put up a political message or a message like that's cultural and social issues, but not that. So education, not indoctrination. We could do a school choice thing. I mean, my issue was that Twitter locked me out of my account because I legitimately called out real groomers. I wasn't talking about random gay people.
Starting point is 01:49:10 It was a photo of someone showing explicit material to children. And they accused that person of being the entire LGBT community. I'll tell you one thing really funny. Media Matters is losing their minds because i made a video saying obviously not all lgbtq people are groomers right the issue is that we have is that some people are groomers and some of those groomers happen to be lgbt and big tech is protecting them yeah so they're trying to get me banned they're like how dare he say this and i'm like my video literally is me saying gay people are not groomers you think they'll cool off cool off on the groomer band going forward?
Starting point is 01:49:46 They're creating a problem because they are sort of using the LGBT community to provide cover for people who are predators. And it's just a wrong thing to do to gay people, too. That's my point. And I cited the group Gays Against Grooming. Yeah. Which is... A real group. A real group of people I'm friends with who are just like, hey, you know, we're not okay with this.
Starting point is 01:50:08 We don't want kids to be around some of these things. And this is politics, man. I think this is why the GOP is up on education. Even Democrats, self-described Democrats, they don't want the schools to get into the gender stuff. It's a deeply unpopular position. And so you have people run into the middle. Yeah. Pims the Great says, I'm sitting in the hole
Starting point is 01:50:30 of an aircraft carrier looking at one tool that says made in Taiwan and another that says made in China. Taiwan is its own country whether the CCP likes it or not. Republic of China. Interesting. Jack Bailey says, Tim, should the people who perpetrated Gulf of Tonkin be held responsible for
Starting point is 01:50:45 the My Lai Massacre? Do you think the massacre would have happened if the war in Vietnam had not escalated? I am not knowledgeable on Vietnam to a great degree to weigh in on that, to be completely honest. The My Lai Massacre was like a bunch of Americans,
Starting point is 01:51:02 I don't know, a couple hundred of them went into a village. It was just like they were at their breaking point. And the commander, I think it was a captain, commanded them to just start killing. Kill everyone. There's a really good breakdown of it and the psychological elements of it in a book called, it's by M. Scott Peck. The People of the Lie. It's about evil. It's a really good assessment.
Starting point is 01:51:21 And I think, based on that, that it probably would have happened anyway if not there somewhere else. All right. I will say this, too. People need to understand the challenge that is—oh, there's a mosquito now. I'm paranoid. That the Soviet Union was expanding. There's real fears about a unipolar Soviet world. I totally get it.
Starting point is 01:51:42 But you don't—I just don't think you win by being the evil that you're claiming you're fighting against. I think Vietnam was for oil. I still think that they were trying to get Malaysian oil off the coast.
Starting point is 01:51:52 Maybe, but the Soviet Union was expanding rapidly. And there were real fears about what a communist globe would look like if the U.S. got isolated out and the Soviets ended up taking more and more countries.
Starting point is 01:52:02 They would cut us off from all of our supplies and strangle us out, and then you'd have a Soviet authoritarian slave planet. I don't know. It's not so simple, but I'm not a fan of the intervention stuff, and especially not a fan of the false flags.
Starting point is 01:52:15 All right, Jimmy Kimber says, Uncle Tim, big fan from Australia. Love the show. Even you, Ian. Keep doing you. P.S. Can you convince Lauren Southern to marry me? Cheers, mate. I can't.
Starting point is 01:52:24 She is married. She is. And she is not here. But, you know, I'm sure Ian appreciates the shout out. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Who was that, by the way? That was Jimmy Kimber.
Starting point is 01:52:36 Thanks, James. James. James. Jimmy. Paul Thongham says, Tim's get out the vote message reminds me of a Simpsons episode where it's Bart versus Martin for class president. Thinking he won,
Starting point is 01:52:50 Bart is thanking those who voted for him. Turns out no one voted and it was too late. Martin won two to zero. I remember that. Yes. They were like, oh, I didn't vote. He's like, what?
Starting point is 01:52:58 Why? And then Martin got two votes. I'm, you know, people keep saying, oh, the Democrats are going to lose and I'm like sure sure sure but isn't that when you charge when you see the enemy retreating you're supposed to charge
Starting point is 01:53:12 usually because they might be enticing you into a trap that's true remember Roe versus Wade was recently overturned and so Democrats are going to be very aggressively organizing to yeah deal with that there's that famous story i think it's a chuko liang was that his name chris you know that
Starting point is 01:53:32 yeah i think that's he's he knew he was going to lose this battle so he opened the doors to his fort and then sat on the wall playing a lute and then when the enemy forces showed up they stopped thinking it was a trap and then retreated. Nice. Hannibal. Brilliant old story. The Cartesian, Cartagian, I'm not sure how you pronounce Cartage.
Starting point is 01:53:51 But he would do that against the Romans. He was known for, he would retreat and then they would chase him and then he'd come around and flank them from behind. It's like in the Patriot.
Starting point is 01:54:02 I love that movie. It's a really good movie. In this situation, I feel like they're in a real retreat because the school stuff has been insane the last two years sorry to interrupt oh no just like when when they're like you know cornwalls is like is that militia farming at their center and then they charge in but then the other side of the hill they've got more forces waiting for them they're like oh no that movie's so good it is really good it's so good it's really long too i just love the scene when he's doing the prisoner exchange.
Starting point is 01:54:26 Someone made a meme about it when they were like, the year is 2050. It's the Second Civil War and prisoner exchange is occurring. And then they wrote a line where it's like, I don't know their names, but their pronouns are Zs, Ms, Er, Z, like, and then, you know, the line from the movie. And a cheeky fellow who called me a white supremacist bigot. Yeah. Cheeky fellow And a cheeky fellow who called me a white supremacist bigot. Yeah. Cheeky fellow. A cheeky fellow. All right.
Starting point is 01:54:50 What do we got here in the old Super Chat box? Juicy, was it Juiced Cyber New Type says, President Cortez, China is threatening military action.
Starting point is 01:54:59 Again, they must want to date me. That's it. That's our future president. That's right. H Music says, every time someone pushes on aoc for a bad decision she'll cry in the oval office and it will bleed over into her press conferences she'll be the crier in chief she'll be saying she'll be doing a press conference and she'll be like yes um peter from fox and he'll be like you recently implemented a policy,
Starting point is 01:55:25 signed onto a policy, an executive order that does X, Y, and Z. And she'll be like, you just want to date me. Next, from ABC, same thing. I can't wait. You just want to date me. And you're making this so appealing. Why is everyone trying to date me here?
Starting point is 01:55:39 Murph tries DIY, says AOC as president and Alex Stein as Fox News White House correspondent. End of the world season four. You know, sometimes I feel like we certainly must live in a constructed universe. There must be either we're in a simulation or there is a God. Because how can this be reality? It's just it defies probability and logic. Yeah, things follow patterns too readily for this to be improbable.
Starting point is 01:56:04 It's not random. It's not. Yeah, no, it's readily for this to be improbable. It's not random. It's not. Yeah, no, it's like, I don't know, it's a simulation or a construct. Someone was saying there's a belief that you keep reliving this life until you do it perfectly. Oh, that sounds awful and impossible. Like, if you do it the best somehow, like there's a way to do this the best. I feel like I already failed in 2009, but next time maybe, I don't know know if you don't remember then do you run out of lives like mario i don't know is there a cheat code dmt yeah yes so yes there is there's always to hack the system we
Starting point is 01:56:36 got it we got a helix i think we got a big old super chat from charlie red he says 15 years in business i am losing my retail to amazon luck Luck matters. Check out my book, The Odyssey Effect. I tried to send you a copy. Hyper Computer and Battle Games, also from Kansas. Mahafil House FT, was it Mahafi House for the win. Wish us luck. Good luck. AS says, my mom was a teacher in California.
Starting point is 01:57:01 Teachers who claimed to care would pass kids quote push the problem to someone else would get fifth graders who had no schooling and spoke no English. Unions are scum. Yeah. Wow. Debbie Gary Ferris says Miss McArdle I believe that Oregon legalized heroin but it's backfiring. This is why we have fentanyl in the
Starting point is 01:57:19 US because the Mexican cartels were forced to change their strategy to pull a profit. There's a little more to that story. We should make cartels not legal. Oh, wait. I heard they just arrested like this cartel and like all over the country, Maryland and Washington and all that stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:38 Stephen Wise says FBI document leaked targeting 2A, flying the Gadsden flag, ANCAPs, etc. Search Project Veritas, MVE, militia, violent extremists. I saw this. It's crazy. When they're saying the Gadsden flag is extremist, I'm like, Virginia issues those license plates. Yeah. That's crazy. That's a
Starting point is 01:57:58 bumper sticker you can buy on Amazon. That's so crazy. We have it. Like, there's a pro skateboarder who has painted his mini ramp with the Gadsden flag on it. It's like, it just means, leave me alone. Yeah. I have a bunch of them. It's normal.
Starting point is 01:58:11 We made little patches that say, don't snake me, bro. It's a skateboarding thing. Like, when you cut someone off and jump your turn. Yep. Yeah. Don't snake me, bro. We got to get those boards made. We're trying to, I shouldn't say trying, we are working towards launching a skate shop.
Starting point is 01:58:26 The good news is the new facility has started construction. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. So hopefully, they say two weeks until the building's done. Then the internals, insulation, HVAC, the studio building. Can you share where that's at? It's in West Virginia. Oh, cool.
Starting point is 01:58:39 Yeah. So, I mean, it's not that far away. It's just we have way more space. So we're going to have a big acreage. And then we have Chicken City here, and then we have Cocktown there. Are there a lot of skateboarders in West Virginia? No. Okay, because I was at a Libertarian Party event there earlier this year,
Starting point is 01:58:56 and we were at a bike shop, and it was not— it was a little more, you know, like X Games than your typical bike shop. I thought it was interesting. So there's some sort of... Well, if it was like BMX kind of bike stuff, then they're doing tricks. And if it was like a road bike place... Yeah, no, it was like BMX stuff.
Starting point is 01:59:16 It was interesting because there's clearly an appetite for that sort of culture in West Virginia. Oh, yeah, everywhere. Everywhere. We're excited. I was told by these big companies, if you build it, they will come. We're putting together this big
Starting point is 01:59:27 indoor skate park. We're going to be filming. We're going to create a channel called Freedomistan where we film action sport exploits and stuff. And I've already got a bunch of pros that are interested in coming out, which is really cool. From all different disciplines, scooting, bikes, blades, skateboarding. So we're going to have really fun stuff.
Starting point is 01:59:44 Jumping through flaming hoops and things like that sounds amazing yeah airbags foam pits we're building a lateral auto belay it's called you know an auto belay is when you're rock climbing you have a belay an auto belay just you just go down slowly automatically a lateral one can roll on a track so you can go full speed launch in the air and then go super high and slowly lower down oh very nice yeah so it's for just like for fun for fun yeah we're gonna do funny stuff with it didn't they have a push to get rid of their state income tax they're doing it right now they're still trying hey man west virginia i knew it was going to be a good place for business education freedom business freedom the governor says he wants to cut income tax by like he wants to cut it down
Starting point is 02:00:24 and eventually eliminate altogether but it's the state legislature that's blocking yes the governor is like but he's i think he's a billionaire what so it's like three quarters majority republicans in the in the house in west virginia but west virginia still has this weird element you know yeah they have critical race theory in their schools they do have a weird element the there are some libertarian candidates i can't remember his last name right now but they're they're actually making a lot of ground right now in their state assembly races i'm looking at it more as a becoming the house minority party not the majority so that's the approach i take all right i'm gonna grab one more super chat here and it's from
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