Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #587 - Alex Jones Ordered To Pay $4M, Biden Declares MONKEYPOX Emergency w/James Lawrence

Episode Date: August 5, 2022

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The jury has decided Alex Jones must pay more than $4.1 million in his ongoing defamation damages trial. The reason I say it's a defamation damages trial is because Alex Jones never actually got a real jury trial. He was found in default, according to the judge, to the court. He did not comply with discovery, according to Jones himself, he did. So this is a particularly interesting case. They considered a rare ruling that a judge just simply said, now you lose. Moving on. And now the jury says 4.1 million, which is also interesting because, you know, as much as it's bad for Alex Jones, I mean, the dude is very, very wealthy. He can probably easily pay that. But the big news comes tomorrow when they assess punitive damages. I heard a lot. Some people are saying can be upwards of $9 million, $8.8 or

something like that. Other people have said four, we will see tomorrow, but there's a lot we need to break down with this case. And it is very interesting. And the other big news, Joe Biden has declared a monkeypox health emergency. Okay, this one's going to get nasty. I'm sorry. Just be prepared. We're going to be talking about the news. We're going to do our best to keep things, you know, family friendly. But this is a really, really insane story.

What's going on with monkeypox in this country? I'm sure most of you know. So we'll get into that. Before we get started, my friends, head over to TimCast.com. Become a member if you'd like to support our work. And you get access to the exclusive TimCast Uncensored After Hours show. We'll have that up at 11 p.m. Plus, we've got a bunch of other shows like Tales from the Innovative World. And the big news, of course, many of you know this. We have since no longer accept PayPal when doing transactions for members. We use Parallel Economy, a company co-founded by Dan Bongino. It is censorship resistant. So supporting us is also supporting them because

we need to get more companies involved with ParallelEconomy.com using them for financial transactions so we can build up an ecosystem that is resistant to censorship. Joining us, oh, so also, yeah, smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show, and joining us to talk about this case with Alex Jones, which will be interesting because this good sir is a lawyer, is James Lawrence. Hey, great to be here. Thank you for having me. Do you want to give people a little bit of information about who you are?

And, you know, you were in the news recently. Sure. So I am a lawyer at Envisage Law in Raleigh, North Carolina. Been practicing there since I left the Trump administration in January of 2021. I had the opportunity to serve in the Department of Health and Human Services in the immediate office of general counsel and was outgoing chief counsel of the Food and Drug Administration, the FDA, under President Trump. And then you recently, you're actually involved in a bunch of lawsuits pertaining to Vax mandates.

And also you were representing Alex Berenson in the Twitter lawsuit. That's right. I was lead counsel for Alex in his lawsuit against Twitter, which recently settled. Right on. Well, we'll talk about all that. We also have Mary Morgan of Pop Culture Crisis. Hello. I'm happy to be back, everyone. My name's Mary. I co-host Pop Culture Crisis on YouTube. It's a daily live show where we talk about entertainment news and celebrity drama and

movies, all that good stuff. Go over and subscribe. What's up, everybody? Ian Crosland here from iancrossland.net i'm very happy to be here nick koenig super chat my favorite skyrim character is a rogue that dual wields daggers just get that out of the way in case really super chat for now it is i like to play on legendary difficulty with uh with like um sneak attack survival mode so there's no there's no fast travel yeah and it's really hard it like fighting one guy becomes yeah sneak

attacks all you played the vr skyrim negative so much fun it looks good yeah the bow and arrow i there's no fast travel. Yeah. And it's really hard. Like fighting one guy becomes, yeah, sneak attacks. Have you played the VR Skyrim? Negative. It's so much fun. It looks good. Yeah. The bow and arrow. I see people like,

you can grab NPCs and bend their head and stuff. Like it's getting crazy. Yeah, dude. Yeah. Right on. And Lydia, of course, on vacation. So Chris is here

handling the show. Hey, what's up everyone? All right, let's jump into that first story from Law and Crime. Texas jury finds Alex Jones must pay more than $4.1 million to Sandy Hook victim's parents for calling the massacre a giant hoax. This story is absolutely insane.

First, they say this is far lower than the figure parents had asked them to award $150 million in damages, which their lawyer found a fitting penalty for Jones's decade of deceit. December will mark the 10th anniversary of the massacre. The jury, which reached the verdict on the first day of deliberations, has yet to award punitive damages and will return on Friday to consider that unresolved matter. Only the size of the award has been an issue at trial, as the judge issued a rare default judgment against Jones before trial for failing to comply with his discovery obligations. That's not that's weird, right? You're a lawyer. Yeah, it is. It's not something you see a lot in litigation. Typically,

if there are disputes between parties on discovery. So, for example, if a plaintiff or a defendant is seeking documents or answers to interrogatories or other questions in discovery, there's a process that you go through, right? The counsel for both parties confer with one another. They try to understand what the disputes are. And ultimately, the parties go to the court and ask the judge to weigh in on whether or not to order the party to produce those documents. And I'm not familiar with the specific details of Alex's case and the procedural history of how the default judgment happened. But it is a rare thing for a court to not provide any sort of intermediary sanction. Right. They just went straight to default. Less than default, which would be negative inferences, perhaps from an evidentiary standpoint or other sanctions that the court might levy, but not going straight to a finding of liability.

Do you think Alex Jones can appeal this and potentially win? for sure if, again, and not knowing what the Texas state court precedents are right now, but there in theory, yes, would be a basis to appeal the finding of liability, which is the threshold finding for the damages that flowed out today in the $4 million or so verdict. So this is the story from NPR. Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones ruled liable in Sandy Hook defamation case. This is from November 15th, 2021. They said a Monday ruling from a Connecticut court, which found Jones and other defendants liable for defamation, brought swift reaction from an attorney or any of the families. The Superior Court Judge Barbara Bella cited theants' willful noncompliance to the

discovery process as the reasoning behind the ruling. Bellis noted that the defendants failed to turn over financial and analytics data that were requested multiple times by the Sandy Hook family plaintiffs. Now, this is a Connecticut court. The story about the $4 million is a Texas court. I know that he's got other defamation cases coming from these parents. But the reason I bring up that story, I believe it's the same one, but I'm not entirely sure. What I know is that, or what I can say, Alex told me they comply with everything, but no matter what they gave, they were told they weren't complying. I'm not saying you need to believe Alex Jones.

I'm just saying that's what he's asserting. Now, the question I have is, if a court orders you to hand something over that you don't have, and then issues a ruling in default, like, what do you do? Let's operate from the assumption that Alex Jones did comply with discovery as he claims, and they rule in default anyway. What do you do? Oh, you go to the court and you explain all the things that you did to produce documents. Oh, yeah. You try to create, you show the court, for example, if you're searching for documents across a corporation, for example, what search terms you used, how you searched for documents, how you collected them and ultimately produced them. You know, you you offer the opportunity for somebody to come and do a forensic analysis to make sure you're not hiding something.

Right. Those are the steps that you could go through to sort of prove your your that you've you've complied with your obligations. But that doesn't sound like that opportunity was provided in this particular case, which, again, is going to potentially raise appealable issues. So I wonder if this is just political. You know, $4 million, I'm just going to come out and say it, for Alex Jones, he said in trial something like anything more than than two million would damage the company or something. I don't believe it. I think I think a four million dollar ruling. Alex probably left, got in his car and then went, yes, because it's like a lot of people are posting on Twitter.

This may this may as well have been a victory for Alex. Four million dollars because he he makes so much money. Now, he doesn't make as much money as he used to, which is another big element of this trial, of this case, is that they're trying to claim people are just, it's so frustrating dealing with, you know, people are saying in the trial, they said Alex Jones made $165 million in sales. Wow. Alex Jones made $165 million. No, that's gross. What's the net?

What's the profit? What's the take home after taxes? How much money does men actually have? A lot. That's why I'm saying like, yeah, 4 million sucks. But for someone as well off as Alex, as big as his empire is, he can probably pay that.

How long do they take to pay that? Do they give him like a year every month? Does he have to make payments? Is it a bulk payment? People don't know anything about this stuff. He's probably never going to pay there was an there was a viral post there's a post on reddit and then they were like i think it was related to oj simpson they said you know it was a 30 million dollar wrongful death lawsuit he's only paid like 100

grand after like 30 years why because you can't squeeze blood out of a turnip oh like what are you gonna do yeah and people arrange their assets in ways that can be advantageous in that regard. I think the Enron executives, right, in the 2000s who had multimillion dollar verdicts that were levity against them, who bought large houses in Florida, if I'm not mistaken, or if I'm remembering correctly, because essentially they could put their assets into a home that couldn't be levied against to collect against a judgment. Yeah, they can't take your house from you, can they? It depends on what state you're in, in terms of how far a judgment creditor can go to collect against you. Like I said, I think in the case of the Enron

executives, there are special rules in Florida that allow people to put their assets into homes. Weren't they buying a $100 million house and then being like, sorry, I'm in bankruptcy, can't take my home from me? I don't remember if it was that much, but it was big houses and lots of money. And then when they start a bunch of home renovations, they just start the renovations and they're like, sorry, all the money's out, even though it hasn't been built yet. I don't know. It's easier than that. I mean, here's one thing you could do, right? Let's say you want to engage in corrupt behavior.

Let's say you have plans to be corrupt and you know that you can't take the money from an organization. Say like, I don't know, you're an elected official and you want people to pay you for favors. So you'll create something called like a global foundation. And then as,

let's just say you're Secretary of State or something like that. Under Obama. Under Obama. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, hundreds of millions of dollars are pouring into your foundation, which is unrelated to you. Right.

You know, that's one way. Or let's say you want to do large private equity deals with China, but you are an elected official. So you have your son fly on the government plane with you, just hypothetically, of course, and then share bank accounts with him. Even though I have no idea how that works legally. But share phone numbers. That way, if you were the one communicating, you could always just say it was your kid.

And that way, you know, you can try and cover up. Those are things that somebody might do. Actually, just for the sake of clarity, I'm literally referencing what Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton have been accused of doing in no way trying to encourage people to engage in any of those behaviors. Right. The Clinton Foundation. Right. Took a lot of money. And then when she was when she lost, all of a sudden, the Clinton Foundation stopped getting

like money just dried up and just. They disbanded it and now it's back. Is that right? They were like, hey, we're going to win again or something like that. When you said that they one thing, Alex, or someone that feels like they've been wronged by the process can go to the court and see if they can rectify like discovery or whatever. Is the court just basically the judge in this case? It is the judge. You're right. Right. So you, if you have a discovery dispute, you try to work it out with the other party first. You do something called meet and confer

with the other side to see if you can resolve the dispute without having to get the judge involved. But ultimately, if you're unsatisfied with what the other side is doing in terms of the documents that they've given or the answers they've given discovery, you go to the court and you move to compel and you ask the judge to order them to order them to to provide responsive documents or answers. But what if you don't have it? Like, what are you supposed to do? There's nothing you can do. There is nothing you can do other than, again, what I said earlier, which is show the court the efforts that you've undertaken to pull back the curtain. The judge can just be like, ah, you're lying.

Potentially, yeah. Yeah, I think people need to realize everybody thinks you live in this world of laws and that the laws dictate what will happen. They don't. They're more like guidelines. I think it's funny when people say, you know, because Carrie Lake is big in the news and they're talking about her election. There was a funny article that said if Carrie Lake gets her legally impossible wish, Donald

Trump will be ineligible to run for president because you can only win twice or whatever. And I was like, legally impossible. I like how they say that as if like the Declaration of Independence was legal as it pertained to the British Parliament. Like, no, a bunch of guys drank and then said, you know what? We're declaring independence. And the crown was like, you can't. That's not legal. And they're like, we don't care. So at a certain point, humans just make decisions to do things. And so we might sit back and be like, you can't do that.

The court says this. And it's like, bro, the judge is going to do it if they want. And good luck. If you get a bad judge, what are you going to do about it? Well, that's why you have an appeals process. I know. It's cool. But what if you get a bad Supreme Court? Yeah. Well, right. Or they reject it. It's it? Well, that's why you have an appeals process. I know. It's cool. But what if you get a bad Supreme Court?

Yeah. Well, right. Or they reject it. It's just. No, that's true. I mean, we live in a fallen world and in a legal system that has limitations on its ability to do justice. Yeah, that's true. But I will say just in defense of the legal system, in some ways, we are blessed and fortunate in the United States. Where we do, I believe in most cases, civil cases that I've been involved in, certainly judges that are trying to do their best to reach the right result.

So we do have that blessing here in the United States that a lot of other countries don't have. No, I mean, we got a pretty good system. I think the issue is just we're getting to this point culturally where you have two distinct Americas. You have the multicultural democracy. You have the Constitutional Republic. You have you now have judges. You know, I understand sometimes you'll get a judge and I've watched Law and Order, right? Right. They'll be like, this is good news. You know, we've got Judge Smith, who's, you know, not a fan of X or Y, which means we'll probably be able to get, you know, these things filed or something like that.

They'll say stuff like that. Right. And I've been involved in legal issues in the real world where I've been advised, if you file in this jurisdiction, you're going to have this judge and he really hates this stuff. And so it's like, okay, you take those things into consideration. That's to a degree understandable. The perceptions of the judge is how they interpret the law.

But we're getting to the point where these judges are like, I hate Alex Jones. He's an evil man. CNN told me so. I'm not going to let him win no matter what he does. It is very same. We're getting to that point. I'm not saying this of the current judge. Some people are accusing. I'm saying quite quite literally like i'm saying it's hypothetical

we're getting to the point where your judge is going to be like i don't i don't know or care who you are you're maga and that's obviously not a place where we need to be and that's a disturbing place yeah that's a scary place that's where we're at if anything alex jones was the one who got defamed because after his sandy hook comments they twisted that into saying that he also claimed Parkland didn't happen and all sorts of things didn't happen. None of that was true. They brought up how like some of the stuff he was saying was him reading comments from users and news articles. And so it's like. There should also be room for Alex Jones to be a performer

because that's partly what he is. I don't like the idea that... Look, the Sandy Hook families, these are private individuals. You don't get on a big platform and start accusing private individuals of stuff. You shouldn't do it for anybody, right? I didn't watch that, what he said at the time. Yeah, I mean, he had he had his own employees were telling him to stop. What did he say exactly? Is it public? Is it on YouTube? I

don't think that you're allowed to repost what he said on YouTube. It's it's it's not. And I would not be able to quote exactly what he said. But I know there were various instances of him accusing them of being crisis actors or saying they weren't real. But a lot of it was him being like, oh, look what this person said. And look what this person said. And then they've also, they also accused him of saying things like, if you really did lose your children, I'm so sorry. And they're like, what does that mean? And they were saying those statements as well were part of the defamation. What you got to understand about private individuals, you can't, like the standard is really low for defamation against a private individual

or i shouldn't say it's really low it's just really high if you're a public figure so what they tried doing with the covington catholic kids was claiming they were involuntary public figures like that's absurd but alex didn't get a jury trial in this as to whether he defamed him so we didn't even go over that stuff jones was instructed that he was not allowed to say that he was that he didn't do it he was not allowed to say that he didn't do it. He was not allowed to defend himself at all. They said he wasn't allowed to say he complied with discovery and he

wasn't allowed to say he didn't defame them and he wasn't allowed to say that he didn't mean to cause them intentional harm. That's crazy. And on the first issue about not being able to say he wasn't liable, that was already decided. It was a trial on damages.

So that's not out of the ordinary at all, right? Because if you're only there to try damages, the issue of liability is already decided. It is out of the ordinary. It was rare that there's a default rule in this case. Correct, correct, right, right, exactly. So the fact that he never got an opportunity to be like, here's what happened. Correct. That being said, I got to tell you guys, before the trial even happened, I know people who,

people have told me, it's hearsay, but they were like, I heard so-and-so said to Jones, you have to stop doing this. And then in the trial, they actually brought up communications where employees at Infowars were telling him like, why are you doing this? It's not worth it. You need to stop. And he didn't. And, you know, people have brought up that he was drinking, probably got arrogant.

I mean, this dude was making a lot of money. He was making what like, here's the crazy thing. They said it was like 16, I'm sorry, $165 million in sales, $165 million in sales. I also heard Scuttlebutt was like, he was making like $10 million a sales. $165 million in sales. I also heard Scuttlebutt was like, he was making like $10 million a month. So if you're doing $165 million per year, so if you're

making $10 million, imagine what his profit margins are. Some speculate it was around 70%. Makes sense. It's a lot of money. It's a lot of money. And I'll tell you this too, like the $4.1 million, I know it's bad. There's precedent lot of money. It's a lot of money. And I'll tell you this too, like the 4.1 million, I know it's bad. There's precedent,

like they're trying to get a political victory or whatever it is people think. The thing about this 4.1 million is I'm willing to bet Jones got crypto or something. You know, he knew this was coming. So you have to imagine that if you know it's coming

and you're working a company, you're going to start, you're going to ramp up everyone's salaries. Your kids are going to get their inheritance very quickly. And then they're going to come for you and be like, it's all gone. You're ordering your affair. You are ordering your affair strategically at that point, though there are remedies potentially that these plaintiffs can take to try to trace that money to some extent. But yeah. Well, let me ask you then as a lawyer, if Alex Jones paid a million dollars to an employee,

could they then get that money back? Well, the problem is what did the employee do with it right after they got it, right? Let's say that someone was contracted to produce a documentary, and they're a documentary filmmaker, and Alex said, we'll give you a million dollars to produce this massive documentary. And they said, you got it. Let's say it's a third-party company that's contracted with Alex Jones. How would you get the money from them? I mean, they're not involved in your lawsuit. You can't just take the money from them.

They're doing work, right? Yeah, I mean, provided it's a legitimate arm's length transaction that's not fraudulent. No, yeah, sure. It's like an invoice came in and it said, here's the proposed budget for the film. And they said, we're going to pay you the million dollars. What do you do? And that gets into the interplay of potential bankruptcy know, potential bankruptcy questions, which I'm not a, you know, I'm not an expert in bankruptcy, but fraudulent transfers and things of that nature where creditors will go and try to. But I'm saying not fraudulent.

Like, let's say Alex Jones has never done a million dollar documentary before. Right. Gets sued. And then he decides to do one. Now he's broke because he spent all the company's money you assume he says i don't have any money they say where is it we spent it i'm running the company right and and then you show like a legitimate invoice and transaction and budgeting plan for this big project right and then the first you think is happening with the

upcoming documentary what he's doing that that is not his actually documentary alex's war is not related to info i'm not i'm not i didn't contract, he has a documentary. Alex's war is not related to InfoWars. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. He didn't contract that in any way. No. I'm not, I'm not referring to anything about Alex Jones. I'm saying, like, in the event that you get sued, couldn't you just spend the money? Well. And whoever's hands it belongs to.

Yeah, you can't sue them. That's their private business. Right. And then you couldn't take, I couldn't take your money, you know, if I was suing Ian and right now. And again, I think what would happen is you would have to apply the you would have to apply the law and the case law in the jurisdiction where you're in, in his case, in Texas, as they're going to go and try to collect against him personally. They're going to try to collect against these corporations. Then you're going to have an overlay with the bankruptcy court and how the bankruptcy process plays out

and who's going to get paid and in what priority because I imagine he has other creditors, not just these judgment creditors that are out there that he owes money to, right? So yeah, I don't, it's a $4 million judgment and I'd be surprised if they actually even get any money. I mean, they might get a little bit, but what's going to happen? I mean, and- Right, right. Because it sounds like they might have to get in line, right? With a lot of other people in the bankruptcy process. And then there's questions of like, let's say Alex Jones just says, I declare bankruptcy,

I liquidate the assets, I pay everybody off. And then he takes a lucrative contract working for a different company. And so sure, out of the money they're paying him, maybe they only pay him a small, you know, six figure salary. So he only has to pay a certain percentage. But then he gets to live luxuriously, you know, through other people. Like he's Alex Jones. He could take a cell phone worth 20 bucks and film a video and get a million views.

Right. So it's, you know. Let's jump over to this next story, though. We'll move off the Alex Jones stuff. That was big news. And I thought it was really important considering, you know, what's been going on. But this is the big national story. We have this from CNN Politics.

The Biden administration has declared monkeypox a public health emergency. Uh-oh. The announcement came during a briefing with the Department of Health and Human Services. The administration has been criticized at times for its handling of the outbreak. Since the first US monkeypox case was identified mid-May, more than 6,600 probable or confirmed cases have been detected in the United States. Cases have been identified in every state except Montana and Wyoming. The declaration follows the World Health Organization announcement last month that monkeypox is a public health

emergency of international concern. The WHO defines a public health emergency of international concern as an extraordinary event that constitutes a public health risk to other states through the international spread of disease and to potentially require a coordinated international response. Okay, well, look, according to, I think it's the World Health Organization, 95% of those who have been infected have been men who have sex with men. And so there was a story where they were saying, you know, actually, I'll just put it this way. In New York City, if you want to get a vaccine in order to be eligible, you have to be a man who, a male who has intercourse with males and have had multiple anonymous partners.

That's how you qualify for the vaccine. They're not just giving this vaccine to anybody. They also said male identifying. So really, I guess women can get the monkeypox vaccine, too. As long as you're claiming to get with a bunch of guys, I guess. Dude, this is like a struggle session.

They're like, you know what you got to do if you want the vaccine? Here's our guidelines. Go get them. Super base that Montana and Wyoming don't have it. I mean,

why do you think all the Californians want to move there? Yeah, but it's not so much that it's super base. I drove through Wyoming and I thought I was gonna run out of gas because I'm driving down this highway for like 200 miles and it's just road. And then there was this small shed looking building. And I'm like, I got like

50 miles left in the tank and I'm driving. And then my friend goes, look, and there's two gas pumps that I couldn't even tell were gas pumps. i was like whoa and then we pulled over immediately and it was like this dude in his house with like a little dog walking around and he had gas and i was like well okay so yeah it's really hard to transmit diseases in environments like that beautiful though very very you pointed it out that 95 at least is the number i've heard of them is it sounds like it's an STD trans transmitted by guys having sex with guys. It's not an STD. That's very important distinction. People have been saying that because of what they're reporting. It's just that for obvious

reasons, people who have multiple anonymous partners, they're touching each other a lot and they're sharing bodily fluids a lot. So there's a higher, higher propensity to bro. I guess that's true because the common cold isn't an std and you could get it exactly sex with someone and if you go and shake the hand of somebody who's got it and then you get it you're gonna be like i swear i wasn't going so it's because it's not a blood disease it's a skin-to-skin contact disease that it's not considered an std yeah well it's not an std i want to point out that just because someone declares something doesn't mean that it's actually real like i, I declare this piece of obsidian is blue.

It's still black. Well, hold on. I mean, he's saying it's an emergency. But that opens up the FDA. We were talking about this before the show to start approving medicine for emergency authorized use without proper testing channels if it's considered an emergency. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, the PHE being declared does open the door for medications, vaccines, other testing diagnostics to be brought onto the market through, instead of going through the

traditional FDA approval process, through the abbreviated EUA process, the emergency use authorization process. What bothers me the most is that we've been softened. I think people have been softened to what it means a medical emergency actually is since COVID. Like that people are willing to tend that this might actually be a real emergency. I mean, it might be a real emergency. Well, might is a different story. Now, I'm open to talking about it. I'm saying in my opinion, like the reality is the government has declared it.

So they're claiming it is. My point is people can get monkey pox from touching other people. And so while it's spreading predominantly among one particular group, it could find its way if people don't take it seriously, into general population. Like regular people will start popping up and be like, how did this happen? And then all of a sudden you've got bumps or whatever. There's some crazy posts on social media where they're like, if you're going to a kink event, just put Band-Aids over your bumps. It's like, well, that's why it's spreading.

So I don't know, man. I don't know what they're going to do. It's the same thing. This is a little, same thing that's going on in Arizona. It's taken two days to count this vote. In 2020, for the first time, it takes days to count votes. And people have been softened to it. It's like...

It happened in 2018. But it's a pretty new phenomenon where it's taking multiple days to count a city's votes. It's not ethical. And also 2000. Maybe, yeah. And that was... Yeah, the recounts. Right, right.

So it has happened, but like, I don't want to see people get like, like muted to the, what a real emergency is because we keep being told that we're in a state of emergency. We've, we've like, I don't think we've ever not been in a state of emergency our entire lives. Since, since September 11th, 2001, it's been an emergency every day. Even before that. Even before that. I love this country, but it's but it's there's there how many emergencies are currently in are currently active in the united states it's there's there's probably dozens because they

they never just end them they're like oh yeah 9-11 emergency and then they just leave it and then it's an emergency and then they can do all this crazy stuff and it's it's uh threatening to our liberties right it's a constant state of state of emergency, as we saw in many ways unprecedented restrictions on individual freedom that happened in this country during the COVID-19 pandemic during the PHE. More than 30 national emergencies remain in effect. Wow. What's the oldest one? So they say the legislation was signed by President gerald ford on september 14th 1976 as of march 2020 60 national emergencies have been declared more than 30 of which remain in uh in effect so uh you know we're just sitting there okay there's uh 42 currently in effect we

have them let's take a look list of national emergencies in the united states all right let's see we got 42 still in effect look at this liz it's huge let's go all the united states all right let's see we got 42 still in effect look at this liz it's huge let's go all the way down all right under biden you've got a security emergency invocation of emergency authority relating to the regulation of the anchorage and movement of russian affiliated vessels to united states ports and we got this one uh biden Protecting certain property of Afghanistan bank. Duh. For the benefit of the people of Afghanistan.

You've got sanctions. You got sanctions, sanctions, sanctions, sanctions. You got Trump. Trump's emergencies are still in effect. Current, current, current. So this one ended under Trump. Here's a current Trump one. Declaring a national emergency concerning the novel coronavirus.

Okay, that we understand. Blocking property and suspending entry of certain persons contributing to the situation in Syria. Let's go back pre-Trump. Let's go to Obama. Here's a current Obama one. Blocking property relating to Venezuela. You've got Central African Republic.

I mean, these are all emergencies, man. A lot of them are sanctions. A lot of them are sanctions. Jeez, like 90% of them are sanctions. Public health under Obama. Public health and sanctions. Yeah, that was H1N1. So the green ones are still going on.

A lot of sanctions. It's like all sanctions, basically, to be fair. It's all sanctions. Legal. What's that one? Legal. Protecting the development fund for Iraq and certain other property in which Iraq has interest. What does that mean?

It's an emergency. We got to make sure that the Iraqis get their land. What the heck is going on? Dude, that's been in effect since 2003. Wow. That's a George Bush emergency there. That's crazy, dude. H1N1 isn't current, right?

No, no. I mean, I think it's still around and stuff. Under Bush at a trade, August 17, 2000, continuation of export regulations, an emergency declared. Okay, it's not an emergency anymore. Iraq's taken care of. We're not even, our troops are pulled out. No, they haven't. Yeah, we're still there.

Technically, we're supposed to have by now, but. Arms, current, proliferation of weapons of mass destruction emergency under Bill Clinton, 1994. What does that mean? I mean, I have a summary, but what is that? Oh, here we go. A trade emergency. Carter sanctions still in effect, blocking Iranian government property. That's not a surprise.

OK, you know what? I'll say this. I get it. It's mostly sanctions. I understand. But there's like seizure under Biden, the people of Afghanistan or whatever. The emergency declarations give them just like blanket powers to do a bunch of crazy stuff.

Yeah. And we saw that on full display during the COVID-19 pandemic, unprecedented restrictions on individual freedom, lockdowns, people in my home state of North Carolina, the legal state of play was, if you didn't have a reason to be out of your house, if you weren't going to the grocery store or trying to get medical care,

then you could be held liable for a criminal misdemeanor. You see that video of that lady who owned the restaurant? And she set up an outdoor seating area and then California shut it down. But right next to it was a movie production company's outdoor seating area that was up and running. Yeah, she was crying making a video about it because it destroyed her business. You will own nothing and you will be happy. I heard from so many people in 2020 as this was starting, people who had invested their livelihoods into starting businesses in my home state. And they were completely devastated by the restrictions and by the lockdowns. And then you had PPP money that was being supposed to go to these people.

And one of the dirty little secrets of the legal profession is a lot of that money, I can tell you, went to law firms in 2020 and 2021. And law firms, by the way, that never locked down or shut down. And as I came back into private practice, learned many of them had record years in 2020. Wow, good for them. Good for them. We're always happy when lawyers make money. Well, yeah.

And, you know, I mean, I'll speak to this as somewhat of a traitor to my class, but it's disgraceful that working class men and women who that money was really there for to keep them making ends meet, you know, were losing their livelihoods while partners and mid-sized law firms were paying down their beach houses. That's a disgrace. I'm sorry. I just had a crazy thought.

What if the elites, the wealthy, are trying to strangle out the working class then fund advocacy for communism by going to the working class and being like man your life sucks like yeah communism look at this you know no no well yeah yeah that's probably and then these people old ancient practice strip people of their needs and then promise to give them back. Yeah. Yeah. What was it? What was it? Fast and Furious 4, I think it was. The villain in that movie, it was brilliant.

He was like giving, he was helping the locals, giving them stuff. And he was like, if you give them something, then they fear having it taken away and then they're slaves or something like that. So it's kind of like take people who are in dire straits and give them just enough and then you can threaten to take away what very little they have. We've got to get back to viewing the federal government as something that we are allowing to exist. It's basically a union that we as citizens of our states are allowing to function. It's not there to control us. It's there because we want it to be there. It doesn't have authority over us.

We are it. It is part of us. And it's supposed to work in synergy with us to make sure that no one state goes rogue and starts destroying its citizenry. That's basically the function of the Fed, federal government. And yet we have a very powerful,

as we all know, central government that really regulates all aspects professional class that's around it, the consultants, the lobbyists, and yes, the lawyers that are a part of that ecosystem, right? So yeah, I mean, the original intent of the republic, as you pointed out, right? A limited federal government with most of the powers being reserved to the states and to the people where they could act locally and govern themselves. Well, I got good news. We're going to jump to this next story from legal insurrection. DeSantis suspends state attorney for refusing to

enforce bans on child surgeries and abortion restrictions. This morning, Ron DeSantis did this announcement where he basically said this George Soros-backed state attorney was outright refusing to enforce the law in a blanket statement. And he was like, look, it's one thing if you use your discretion on an individual basis. Like, okay, this guy shouldn't be charged with this crime for this one reason. Here's why. It's another thing when you come out and you sign a document saying, I will never enforce the law. So Ron DeSantis, as the executive of Florida, suspended the state's attorney and then put in a temporary replacement to actually enforce the law. This is tremendous. George Soros recently issued a statement. He published an op-ed saying he will

not back down from this. He will keep funding district attorneys to reform the system, or I should say he will keep fighting to reform the system of prosecution because it's not working for our communities. It's creating distrust between the people and the police. The crazy thing is this guy is either completely evil or dumb as a box of rocks and considering as well he's as wealthy as he is i don't think he's that stupid if you look at what's happening in san francisco chicago new york los angeles yeah i don't think anyone's going to be convinced this plan is working you look at san francisco and they recalled that guy just a budin or whatever his name is they recalled him the new the new person who came in says they're going to go after all the drug dealers now. So clearly, whatever it is that Soros is thinking

is funding is pissing everybody off. Ron DeSantis, he's draining that swamp. It's one of the first major moves I've seen from any executive to go against these corrupt state's attorneys. We'll see if anyone goes after the district attorneys to the extent that they can. But this is huge, huge, huge victory for accountability. And maybe we'll start seeing some stuff. And then on top of that, you know, I'll just add this before throwing it to you guys. Donald Trump said he was going to fire everybody. I dig it. Ron DeSantis just fired a guy. I mean, he didn't really suspended him. But I think that's fairly promising for if Ron DeSantis ends up running for president 2024. Yeah, I really agree with that.

I'm not. I got mixed feelings about authority, authority, authoritation, authorities using their power to just fire somebody that's not doing bending to their will. But there is a reason for that. His will, though. It's just the law that he said. He didn't put the law. That he set into place. It's not DeSantis' personal will. He didn't put the law in place. People voted for a legislature who then passed bills and had them signed.

Then it got a sufficient amount of votes. And then Ron DeSantis is like, OK, sign the bill. And then this guy issued a statement. He was like, I am signing a statement saying I will never enforce that law. So hopefully if DeSantis has integrity, even if it's a law he personally disagrees with, he would do the same thing. Yeah, yeah. I think the second part of what I was saying

is that sometimes the authority, the reason they have the ability to fire somebody that's not bending to their will is because we need authority. We need a strong leader. At least society, our species since the dawn of time has like an authority, the military commander, the commander in chief, the one that's like, put them up against the wall,

whatever. They're like, you're not going to support the military cause. You're a danger to our freedom and our survivability. I have the ability to do with you what I will. But the power here that's being exercised, it's limited. Ron DeSantis doesn't decide what the law is. He does, however, it is within his duties to make sure that if other people within government aren't doing their jobs, if they're derelict of duty or negligent, that he removes them. And that's in the Constitution. I'm so surprised to see such a bold move because it feels like, especially with the Republican Party, they just sit on their hands. Now, Ron DeSantis is like he came out and he just went at it.

And he was like, nah, get him out of there. Here's boom. Executive order. Did it say is this like a temporary suspension? They're trying to make it permanent, but they've put someone else in place. What do you think about it? Yeah, I mean, it is, you know, it's interesting with the left. The left is supportive of local control and localism when it suits its purposes, and then it's supportive of

centralized control and authority when it doesn't. And so, you know, here you've got somebody who's a prosecutor who's essentially involved in prosecutorial nullification, right? Essentially, you've got a duly enacted statute that's passed by the Florida legislature, signed into law by the governor, and this prosecutor is refusing to enforce the law. As you said, Tim, right, he's not just exercising discretion on individual cases. He's saying he's basically giving the finger to the people of the state of Florida by refusing to enforce the law. So, you know, it is good to see someone stand up and say, no, you are going to do this. You are going to follow the law. You are going to apply it. And, you know, in a red state where there are these blue enclaves, right, that

this is a red state and this is the way we do things. Let me read this quote. In June of 2021, he signed a letter saying that he would not enforce any prohibitions on sex change operations for minors. Sex changes are really disfiguring these young kids. And he said it doesn't matter what the legislature does in the state of Florida. Florida has said you cannot perform sex change operations on children. This guy said he would not enforce a prohibition on that. I just got to say, I don't think anyone predicted because we had Rick Santorum here. I don't think anyone predicted that a slippery slope meant within 10 years you would have children getting sex change surgeries. Now, a bunch of news outlets, they refer to it as gender affirming health care.

And I take issue with that because that is not what Ron DeSantis said specifically. Ron DeSantis is citing surgery operations like going to children. We I don't think society would tolerate breast implants. That's a gender affirming treatment, right? No, gender is a psychological thing. It has once you start to carve up physical bodies, it's sex. Or it's at least non-sexual surgery. Gender is an idea.

It's a concept. It's a way of feeling. Once you start cutting into it, man, that's another conversation. I agree that gender is a feeling. That's the postmodern way to identify. But gender identity is different from gender. So these are postmodern. How you identify. But gender identity is different from gender. So these are postmodern definitions of what gender is.

Gender was used since it started coming into prominence in the 50s to specifically mean biological sex. That's very confusing because sex means sex. Gender means gender. So they're different words with different meanings. That's very important. So that's actually a new concept. That's so funny. The divorce between the word gender and sex is new.

So that you can have the identity be anything you want. But I thought it used to be your sex was what your gonads, basically, and then your gender was how you identified. And it didn't have to be... No one identified as anything. They were just... What they were.

In the 50s, it appeared that this idea of gender was like in the 50s or something like that. So the word gender has been used for a long time. It comes from genre, actually. I was looking into the history of the word. It came into prominence in the 50s with people like John Money and I don't know. Was Kinsey the 50s? I'm not entirely sure. Seamus knows all about this and so

i started reading a bit about it but um gender was used as a word academically they were trying to say it's like the social constructs around it but colloquially for most of of english-speaking humans it just referred to your biological sex kinsey was oh kinsey was 1947 it was when he founded the institute for research in Sex, Gender, and what was the other one? Right. So most people, when they say gender. Reproduction. On your legal form, it says gender, M or F. If it says gender and it's a reference to male or female, they're not talking about how you feel. They're asking you about your body. And you know why they do? Because this is really important. In the early 1990s, there was a law that was passed. When they would do medical testing, they wouldn't do it on women.

And then all of a sudden, people started realizing something. You know those painkillers we use during surgeries? Women keep complaining that it's not working. Hey, wait a minute. Hypothesis. Maybe these drugs don't work on women. Sure enough, they found out that certain painkillers work on men and women differently. And so then there was a law passed saying when you're doing medical testing, you have to have female and male trials. This is why it's very important

they know what your biological sex is. Now that they're changing the definition of gender and then changing it back, it's the funny thing. We're getting to this point where there's a reason that we ask these questions if someone collapses on the street and a medic runs up it actually is important

that they know if you are male or female for a variety of reasons for instance if a man screams and says oh my gut oh man it's hurting right in my pelvic area well there's a very different

reason that may be happening compared to why it would be happening to a woman. But it could be appendicitis and it could be a bunch of other things. And so there are some things for obvious reasons, men and women have different organs, that a pain in a certain area could be one thing or not, obviously. But my point is there are certain medical treatments they will give to a male and not a female. And if they can't tell her they don't know or they don't know that a person is taking drugs for gender affirmation, as they're calling it,

well, then you could be seriously screwed up when a medic gives you a medication that is counterintuitive by whatever it is you're taking. Yeah, you got to make sure that people don't, there's a story of a woman that was following Google maps or something or Apple maps into the desert. And it was telling her to turn left, go straight.

And she just kept following the computer into the desert. Her car broke. It was the wrong direction. So if someone just is like thinking gender is all that matters, what I think is all that matters, they're basically driving their car on this automated concept. If it gets to a point where you need to perform life-saving medical treatment on that person and then you do the wrong sex because they've conflated what they feel with gender and their sex, then it's just like it could end up being

catastrophic for someone. Well, now the life-saving medical treatment that they're referring to is gender affirmation because essentially they're holding these kids hostage in a way saying like they're going to commit suicide if they don't get these treatments do you want them to commit suicide yeah they're holding them hostage and and and the i think what's what's what the crazy thing about it is if you look at countries scandinavia for instance they've stopped doing all this they there was like a there's a big article i was reading the day. Sweden is like they're doing mental therapies and stuff right now because perhaps a solution to someone who's got suicidal ideation

is not affirming what is driving their ideation. Isn't Scandinavia or maybe just the Netherlands where assisted suicide is the most permissible? I don't think the Netherlands is Scandinavian. Are they? I don't think so. No. It's like Finland, Sweden, and Denmark. I was thinking it was either in Scandinavia or in the Netherlands.

So it's like Sweden had this big move where they were like, we're not going to do this. I don't know exactly where they're at now, but I know people have been talking about the Scandinavian countries being like, we have found that it's not actually reducing suicidal ideation. And so that's my thing. It's like, seriously, we don't want kids harming themselves. Has it been found that it worsens suicidal ideation?

I don't think. No, I don't know. I don't keep up with. Yeah, I've read that it's I've read some articles saying it's like no difference. But obviously, it depends on what you read. If you read like advocacy websites, they're going to say, of course, it's helping reduce these things. And it's like, well, maybe I don't know. What I do know is what these other countries have have written news articles from these countries that I've read is that the mentality is if someone is

experiencing suicidal ideation, affirming what it is that is that is contributing to it is not necessarily an appropriate solution. So if someone is feeling, you know, let's just say dysmorphic, a general dysmorphia like anorexia or eating too much or, you know, they want amputations or whatever. They were like giving a person who is suffering from some kind of anxiety that like what they're asking for is probably not the appropriate way to stop them from feeling this way. It's kind of like if your kid is afraid that there's a ghost under their bed and you're like, yeah, there is a ghost under your bed. And then you start building their room to protect from this fake ghost. And then the kid goes even crazier because it starts to think really that that. But I agree that you do need to affirm these people not and you need to affirm their existence.

People need to be heard and understood and listened to. That's what these people need more than anything. You don't need to affirm their existence people need to be heard and understood and listened to that's what these people need more than anything you don't need to start i mean put the knives down for a minute and listen to these people like jazz jennings we were listening to a video from her last night she just released a book i don't necessarily agree with what's in the book the book's been out for a while so she's got to had a book off for a while but she needs to be listened to we all need that we and it's not like it's it's do it or the world blows up, but to survive and for the betterment of humanity, people need to be listened to and understood. Jazz Jennings person had parents who seemed to impose this identity

since a very young age, like two years old, when they see their child who they think is a boy wearing a towel on his head. And then they're like, okay, you're a girl now. And then put them on TV and we're just supposed to accept that as normal. She was on a show. Yeah, that's our entertainment now. This is what concerns me about Jazz in particular. She put out a video saying that since two two years old she's felt

dysphoric or whatever and and i'm i have concerns first memory is even that early yeah that's insane you know like i have can you guys remember when you were i remember peeing on my brother one time i think i was like four and he was like yeah he was two i was three being two years old i don't, I don't know. I don't know. So look. Certainly not as complex as that. I do have questions, though.

Like if we're going to talk about Florida and the parental rights and education stuff and the rights of the parents to choose what's right for their kids, then you have to define what your moral line is. Because if we're then going to question the parents of Jazz Jennings, it's like, do we then intervene in their family as a governmental body? Do we say the government must intervene or stop that if we think it's wrong? Or do we then say, we don't want the government intervening in what parents think is right for their kids? And there's questions of, if a kid really is, you know, suicidal, and I'm not talking about two years old. And doctor prescribed

something. Do we as the layman then say we've decided to intervene? I mean, let's let's keep our moral, our morality logical, right in the same path. So I'm on high alert against medical tyranny and for profit surgeries on kids is devastating. It's really bothering me. But I think people also should have the freedom to do what they want with their bodies. Now, we talk about a kid. Kids don't have the ability to consent to things. The parent's basically consenting for them. And so is it ethical for a 45-year-old parent to have a 13-year-old kid cut?

I don't know. What about the kids that have adopted that identity before they're adults, and then once they're adults, they continue to keep that identity and seek medical procedures because of it? I don't think that that person has informed consent of the procedures that they're seeking. Well, I don't think children can consent. But once they're adults and they've already been groomed to believe that this is who they are they don't have the ability to make an informed consensual decision about the medical treatment i don't agree with

that at all yeah i can't make that decision for others that's like a one-on-one that negates everyone's life you know look i i don't think children should be getting sex change surgery. I think that's like where we're going on a dangerous path. But to say that, you know, you're 16 and you had an experience that informed you of something and you chose to follow that. So you can't be adequately informed because of that. OK, Jazz Jennings, since two years old. The parents have been in charge of that. Right.

From what I can tell. A two-year-old is not going to come out. And then Jazz Jennings, 18 and up, now has the ability to consent to further medical interventions. Well, I think Jazz would— After being groomed so thoroughly into believing that that is their identity. I see what you're saying. That's not... But the challenge...

It doesn't follow. There's, this is such a, there's like a hard line for obviously like don't give sex changes to kids that I can't believe is actually a political debate that's happening right now. And to what extent does the government intervene when someone prescribes a medical treatment to a child you don't agree with? So I'm at a loss to be honest. I think it's great what Ron DeSantis did. I think that if you've got a law that's been duly elected and a bill has been sworn, this is the question. This is the question for social media. What is YouTube's position on the fact that in Florida, it is a crime to perform a sex

change on a child? Are YouTubers advocating for illegal activity now? No, what are the rules? So I'm saying, for me, I look at what's going on in Florida. We have consistently said over the past year, parents should have the final say in what their kids are, you know, and how to raise their kids. And then you get people coming out and saying, okay, well, my doctor said my kids should undergo this treatment. And it's like, no, I think you

should. Wait a minute. I just said parents should have final say. Yeah. But those obvious lines, though, like if a parent was abusing the child, and then we have to decide what those moral lines are. Simply put, Florida has decided no sex change surgery for kids. Yeah, I mean, and in North Carolina, I can tell you, we had an interesting proposal made by the Duke Law School around homeschooling. And my wife and I homeschool our kids.

And there was a proposal that was put forth to amend North Carolina's child abuse laws to define something called educational neglect. So what's educational neglect under this proposal? Well, when you start to boil it down, it really means if you're not providing an education that a judge deems to be adequate. So ultimately, you know, judges make the call, but it becomes, you know, sort of inherently politicized. So am I am I giving my child an adequate education if I'm teaching them that there are only two male and female?

Am I giving my child an adequate education if I'm teaching them, you know, real American history, right? Like, so, you know, to your point. Are homeschooled students subject to standardized testing? It depends on the state. In North Carolina, you have to test, I think it's every two years. That's messed up. I'm totally opposed to that. To run a homeschool. But, you know, do you draw lines to say for what parents can do, right? In terms of, okay, there's a difference between how you're going to educate your kids, right? And your control over the education of your kids

versus making these kinds of decisions about your child's future and the ability of society to second guess those decisions. We have a cultural problem. It always comes down to this. And this is what I want people to understand. If a parent says, I'm going to show my kids graphic images.

It's like, okay, well, now you've got questions. Like, is this a violation of the law? Does the law define showing lewd images to children? Child abuse. It does. You can't do that. However, the problem is these parents are going to doctors and the doctor's saying,

this is what you have to do. Not only that, but often when the parents defy the doctors, the state comes in in certain states and punishes the parents. So now you've got this. This is a this is I'm telling you, man, when I talk about the bifurcation of this country in Florida, for instance, sex change on children not allowed in in other states. I mean, even in Texas, we saw that case where the mom wanted to transition the son, the little boy, and the dad didn't. And there was like the judge ruled in favor of the mom.

So you've got these stories about parents who are like a doctor said it. So they agreed. And then what we're supposed to say is like, well, you know, far be it for me to say what's, you know, what's in the, what the child should get if a doctor is saying it. But then you have parents who can't even decide in some areas. When the doctor says it, they say no. Now they get in trouble. The inverse is Florida. It's illegal to do.

Like, we're getting to the point where you're going to have two states next to each other. One's going to, Florida, completely illegal. Then you're going to have another state being like totally legal. And then what the mother's going to kidnap the kid to bring them somewhere to get this gender affirming health care or what what Florida refers to as prohibited child sex changes. Even the language on what's happening is totally different. It's kind of the way it's supposed to be that every state gets to pick its own way of being.

And then we have a federal government to make sure that there are some things that are just off the books. You can't drive 180 miles an hour anywhere in the country. You can't kill people legally. You can drive. Well, you can kill people. Speeding is, in my mind, more permissible than child sex changes. Yeah, but Ian, you are incorrect. There are places in this country where you can drive.

I was being hyperbolic and off the hip. That was stupid of me. On private property, you can go as fast as you want. And they actually have permitted areas where they do high-speed testing. Well, the point is that there are certain— I'm being semantic on you, but sir— You did a good job, Tim. Thank you for that.

There are things that the federal government will say, yo, state, you can't say that's okay. Murder's not okay. You can't say that in your state. You can't abuse your citizens, basically. I don't know. I don't know about that. Is that true?

Well, I mean, it really— It's an interesting question in light of the Dobbs decision, right? Because there are people on, you know, the issue of abortion who believe, and there were briefs that were submitted in that case where people took the position that abortion is unconstitutional, just flatly, that unborn children are persons under the 14th Amendment, and that all states have to treat those persons equally. And so if a state would have to ban the murder of an unborn child, so abortion is flatly prohibited nationwide under that analysis, versus sort of the more classic conservative legal approach to the question, which is, I think, what the court ultimately adopted in Dobbs,

which is that the Constitution is just silent on this question and it's an issue for each individual state to decide. But how do we... It's not silent. But how does the... Well, we talk about it quite a bit and you know, we talk about, I don't, I don't like to just, abortion has been such a big topic on the show for the past several weeks, but a viable baby that can survive outside the womb should be protected. Got to define viable. Like it can survive outside the womb.

With what though? Cause like without a parent, without adults around it, it'll just die outside the womb until it's nine. Yes, quite literally. If a baby is taken out of the womb and placed on a table and it doesn't die right away. It is breathing. It is looking around. It is moving around. My point is, if a 30-year-old man was lying on a bed,

unable to move, we wouldn't be like, he's no longer viable, pull the plug. We'd be like, no, that person has rights. And that has to be, we have to figure out how to manage an individual who's been incapacitated. The point is,

if the Constitution protects individual beings, why would a viable baby not be protected the same as a comatose patient? Whatever term you come up with they're going to abuse the term so viable they could say a baby isn't viable because the adults around the baby are obligated to take care of it or else it will die right until quite an old age like i don't know when kids are capable of using reason to fend for themselves. But that's why I brought up a comatose person.

Right? There's already legal precedent on that. So why would that not apply to a viable baby? I think euthanasia is still incredibly common. Yes, but you need, like, Terry Chaveau comes up all the time. But let's just reference, there's a person who gets in a car accident and they're now in a coma. And they're like, we don't know what's going to happen. The person can't speak. The person can't eat. We can keep them alive. You know, they still have rights. You can't just kill them. Next of kin can make decisions for them depending on, you know,

because we have legal precedent here. So the question then is if if the person does have rights and this is there's a question of will man this gets too complicated it really is because because the issue is someone who's been in an accident who might die is injured and is suffering an injury a baby that is living is not suffering an injury. So at that point, you have... An unimpeded will be born. Right. So I don't understand how there's an argument. So that's why I look at the traditional Roe argument, which is pre-viability of a question of whose rights. I mean, the baby cannot survive without being blood dependent on another individual. And so there's a question in my mind about the extent to which the government can mandate that. But once the baby can survive on its own in open air, how can you justify not giving it constitutional rights?

Because someone still has to take care of it. And that would be the government mandating that someone else has to do something for another life. But I got to stop you there because I already rejected that point and destroyed it. But if the mother's like, okay, then I don't have to do anything, government. I can't kill it. I'm just going to leave it there. That's neglect and it'll die.

So it's a form of murder. No, it's not. There's a big difference between intentionally killing a baby and then putting it on the doorstep of a post office or a fire department. That's different though. I'm just letting it lay there

in the living room on the ground until it dies of starvation. Yeah, Neglect. Yeah. So my point is that that argument is just, it's already dealt with. There are people who are comatose and they have constitutional rights. They do. We apply their rights to them. Why would we not do it to a baby? I don't know. Cause they hit their... You can take the baby and put it on the doorstep of a fire department legally. And they have those safe haven can take the baby and put it on the doorstep of a fire department legally, and they have those safe havens or whatever. So if that's the case, like, I just don't know.

That's just me. You know, I don't know. Because the motivations behind the abortionist's argument are not about viability or rights or anything. It's just that they enjoy hurting children. They enjoy freedom. They enjoy their freedom from being told

that they have to support a child. The closest thing you can get to purely evil. I think it's an issue of narcissism. The self-interest. Man, it was crazy. At any cost, including another human being's life.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Matt Walsh, I think, announced he's going to have some more kids. Hell yeah. You guys see that? And Michael Knowles, I think, just welcomed his second child. Oh, my. And he may have, they may have been old photos, I don't know, but someone tweeted, some leftist activists, to, I think it was Matt Walsh, I'm sorry that your wife was brainwashed into

being a broodmare or something like that. Dude. And I i'm just like that's so insane to say to somebody yeah a mother women's right to choose life is invalid right i like this to each their own mentality i i don't know i'm kind of hands off on all this stuff i just gotta say i put it simply for you guys and then we'll jump on to the next story the only thing i can say is the end result of all of this is a Christian conservative United States of America. No, not Christian. Not if I have anything to do with it. But conservative, perhaps. How many kids do you have?

I have all of yours. Michael Knowles has two. Yeah, but they're listening. They listen to these shows. You know, you can, and this is what I was saying about Jazz Jennings in her book. It's one thing with what's the parent doing for their child, but it's, and should the parent have the right to have surgery on the child, but it's another thing when people are, it's working outward and people are affecting society through media and convincing your child and somewhere else of what to do or inspiring your child. You know, you don't need to biologically have children to

influence children. That's for sure. That's why the school issue is so huge. But my point is simple. Conservatives have been shoring up their communities. They've been, Ron DeSantis has been winning and removing these people. Yeah, it looks like right now there's a lot of variables that lay before us. But if everything that's happening right now stays the way it's happening and advances exactly the way it's happening, 30, 40 years, you're going to have this country is going to be substantially more conservative.

Christ will have returned, yeah, probably. Christ is going to come unify the globe. Actually would be really nice right about now. Christ is going to win in history. Here's the next story. China launches unprecedented military drills on Taiwan's coastal borders.

They actually, this is the crazy thing apparently one of those multiple rockets from china have landed in japanese territorial waters and now they're talking saying basically this may have been an act of war so uh we could really use someone to come down and unite this planet before we blow ourselves up or come up and do it you hear me out there you You're listening. Come up and do it. It's you. You're the one. Oh, I thought you were talking about Satan.

No, no. Just coming up, man. Coming up in the world. That's what it's all about. Come down and land on Earth and bring them together. You mean civilizations that live in tunnels underground? That's who I was talking to. Yeah.

Okay. And also be careful what you wish for because if you were like, we need someone to come and bring peace to this planet, you'll get someone like, okay, and then, you know, Ultron. Yeah, and also unification. Then the Antichrist comes. Right, exactly. He's like, we need someone to come and bring peace to this planet, you'll get someone like, okay. And then, you know, ultra. Yeah. And also unification. Then the Antichrist comes. Right. Exactly.

He's like, your wish is my command. Decentralized unification, I think, where it's like locally run, but organized. Like the states. We have 50 states, but they're all run locally. If Canada joined us and then we had like 70 states and they're all run locally. But we, you know, America is basically the land we live on. That's a good stuff. Yeah, look at these videos, this is bonkers china's firing missiles over taiwan they're landing in

japanese waters i kind of feel like war like it's an intimidation tactic well for sure but i think it's an act of war they're in taiwanese territorial waters they're in taiwan's waters firing missiles i mean like right you can't show up in front of someone's house and start firing a gun in the air like you get arrested for that so we're supposed to sit back and just be like oh this is no big deal there's nothing this is just saber rattling i'm like dude they're literally the missiles are landing like they're hitting people's like other countries territory i kind of feel like the reason that uh nancy pelosi went to uh to to to taiwan is because they know that something's about to happen that the chinese are going to bring the taiwanese back into the fold of the mainland right i mean

because that's their view right that the chinese government's view is that it's a breakaway province that has always belonged to China. I'm looking at what they're doing with the beaching drills. They've been doing sand dredgers around Taiwan. It's like, dude, they're getting ready. They're not screwing around. They've been they've been showing up their financial defenses after after what happened with Russia and the sanctions. Right. This could be why the banks are in dire straits in the country, because they're getting ready for when they go and take Taiwan. And I think Nancy Pelosi basically went there and said, we will not back you. Oh, went to Taiwan to let them know we're out? I think it was essentially that, like, along those lines. We're building factories in the United States to build silicon chips you're done we we will not protect you right what is how is the u.s going to protect taiwan when when mainland china is literally right there and no i don't i don't know economically

that'd be the only way i mean we do have like nuclear submarines off the coast and stuff under the water but yeah but it's like this is the way to go trying to i mean look they are so close to the island but then russia is vowing to fight with china i think the u.s is basically like if we defend you it's world war three so we won't is this going to be the united states's suez crisis if you think of the british empire and its decline it are in the british inability to act in the suez crisis uh similar potentially here historical in that analog what happened with the suez well the british just were overextended it was after world war uh two they were and peter hitchens talks about this vividly uh the the essayist and and brother of christopher hitchitchens that vividly remembers this happening,

excuse me, in the 1950s, that the British Empire had been exhausted by World War II. It was overextended, and it didn't have the financial or military resources to act in the Suez Crisis, and they were told to take their hands off, and there was nothing that they could do, and maybe that's where we're headed, right?

That's where we are. We can't fight a war on the Eastern Front in Europe and the Pacific theater at the same time. Right. Plus, China's got resources in other continents. Africa. Not to mention, we talk about 1.3 billion Chinese citizens. Yo, China's been engaging in colonialism for the past couple decades or longer. People don't understand this.

They have this image of colonialism as like a bunch of people get on a government boat and they're like, we're going to go discover a new world and take it over. And they think it would be like a bunch of boats landing and Chinese citizens taking over a town. No, they get a visa. They move in. Right. That's it. And then sooner or later, you've got large portions of your cities and your country are, you know, now settled by citizens of a foreign country.

And then one day, if war breaks out, what do you think is going to happen in Australia? Look, this is why we had internment camps in World War Two for the Japanese. I think it was wrong. But the idea was like, well, we don't know which one of these Japanese people may be loyal to the Japanese empire. It could have very easily, if we hadn't done that, if they hadn't done that, it could have been like the Japanese uprising in California could have been become Japanese territory. And then we lose the war. So it happened in Europe six years ago. I think it was, maybe it was, maybe it was five years ago. A bunch of Turkish citizens were waving Turkish flags in various

European countries. And, and Erdogan was like, we'll open the floodgates because all of these people loyal to a different country are in these European countries. So what do you think happens if the United States, a lot of people who live here are citizens of China. We've even had people come here who are members of the Chinese Communist Party overtly. What about Australia? If a war breaks out, people start pointing the finger. And then this is the crazy thing. The whole thing just becomes overtly racist. People aren't going to be like, how can I tell if someone's Chinese? They're going to be like, they're just not going to trust each other. It's kind of a crazy, crazy thing to think about. Maybe on a positive side on China, I mean, there are a tremendous number of Christians in China. There's a huge underground church in China.

And as unlikely, perhaps, as it seemed in the Roman Empire and in around 300 AD when Constantine converted to Christianity and changed the course of history, perhaps something like that might happen. Who knows, right? I'm trying to think optimistically here. Yeah. Right. That that God will do something in China and move that country toward toward Christ. Ultimately, aliens come and then just bring medicine and everyone just stops fighting. And they're like, Oh look, we're not, you know, or, or, but it's not, but it's not, like I said, right. I mean, if, but if you were in, in, in, uh, in Rome in and around that time as a persecuted Christian and a tyrannical

situation and stayed, it would have seemed equally bleak. And yet God did move in that country and it changed the world. And maybe, and I pray that that would happen in this case, that God would move in China and that great things would happen and that the country would change culturally. The past hundred years are not confidence building. In terms of just the trajectory of history? Yeah. You know, I was reading a tweet.

They said when Germany invaded Poland, nobody knew it was the start of World War II. And it escalated. And eventually it was World War II. And that right now with Russia invading Ukraine, that's the argument they're trying to make. And the tweet was basically more money for Ukraine. Stop Russia the argument they're trying to make. And there's the tweet was basically more money for Ukraine. Stop Russia now before it becomes World War Three. And it's like, I get it if now that Finland and Sweden, the U.S. Senate has voted overwhelmingly 95 to one. Hawley was the only one who said no. They voted to become inducted. They voted to be inducted into NATO.

Russia vowed retaliation. That right there, it's just like, it's crazy to me that you seem, you have everybody who's running full speed towards World War III intentionally. Like, you realize it's one thing to be like, China doesn't dictate where our politicians go. So the policy is going to Taiwan. It's another thing to, at the exact same time, hold a vote to induct Sweden and Finland to NATO when Russia's threatening war. I'm like, maybe you wait, right? They're just running full speed towards World War III. Sounds like controlled demolition, vanished collapse.

It's not Munich 1939. We're in World War I, right? The preconditions that led to that, the entangling alliances and the dominoes that fell and the disaster that unfolded that ultimately led to World War II. And millions of people dead. But they're running towards it. Right. Like you could be, couldn't someone come out and be like, I propose we don't vote on this just yet because the tensions with China are just too hot and we should maybe wait a little bit. You would think. No, let's ram it through. Why did Hawley dissent? I don't like calling it dissent because it's not like it was a

pre-foregone conclusion or whatever. It was he just chose to not support the thing. Why? Well, we have this story here. We'll read it. Josh Hawley was the only senator to oppose NATO membership for Finland and Sweden. Is it in the United States interest, said Hawley. Finland and Sweden want to expand NATO because it is in their national security interest to do so. Fair enough. The question that should properly be before us, however, is, is it in the United States' interest to do so? Because that is what American foreign policy is supposed to be about, I thought. I fear some in this town have lost sight of that. They think American foreign policy is about

creating a liberal world order or nation building overseas. With all due respect, they're wrong. Bravo. Josh Hawley. Rand Paul voted present. I would have thought he would have voted against it. This is amazing to me. Russia has already got their people on TV talking about nuking London. What do you think Russia is going to do? Think about it from the perspective of the United States. Imagine if Russia started sending resources into Mexico and Mexico was talking about joining the Russian Trade Federation. And then a bunch of Central American countries were joining a military alliance with Russia. And then there was a, basically in Mexico, the government gets overthrown and a bunch of

communists like Soviet people or Russians take it over. You'd be like, OK, we got ourselves a problem in the Gulf, right? Yeah, that would be a problem. So what we got to do is ally with Russia and the Chinese, and then there'll be a Chinese uprising and a Republican uprising in Russia. I'm looking forward to it. I suppose what people need to understand is that the U.S. may talk about its interest in expanding NATO and working with Ukraine, but anyone who's sane understands why Russia is going to lose their mind over it.

They're slowly being surrounded by a massive military alliance, and they don't like it. So at a certain point, Russia is going to be like it's now or never and then what do they nuke london no no take crimea and the war i don't think anybody wants that that war over there i mean maybe the bankers do if russia feels like they'll cease to exist that's what they said they'll they'll they'll go you know full-scale nuclear if they feel threatened like so we're going to the brink. That's what they want people to think though, too. You've got to remember, and I don't know who they

are, but that's like... People thrive off of doomsday scenarios monetarily. Media gets so many clicks when people are afraid. I don't know. I get a lot of this data from Western media, from American media. It's true, but the war in Ukraine is happening. american citizens are on the ground volunteers fighting the u.s is supplying

intelligence and weapons nato is basically involved who was it was it lithuania who blocked the shipment into kaliningrad i think it was lithuania you want to check that real quick yeah uh and russia was like this is an act of war. And then they like backed off. It's like, yeah, Russia is not just fighting. Yeah, it was Lithuania. Yeah. Lithuania blocked supplies into Kaliningrad, which is six days ago. Russian territory. Six days ago.

Well, then articles from six days ago from TVP World. Are they just analyzing it or maybe because this happened like a month ago. Oh, I'm just saying history is condensed and people don't realize how condensed, you know? Well, people don't even understand the history of World War I, right? I mean, the average American doesn't understand what happened. Tell me about it. Right? I mean, they haven't read about it.

They don't know that the United States didn't get involved until April of 1917, very late in the war, or even that the United States wasn't involved in World War II until Pearl Harbor. Four years after the start of the war. Many years into it. Right. So, I mean, we don't. Right. We're not we're not being taught that in our in our primary education, we're focusing on other things that are, unfortunately, much less important than having this overall understanding of the history of the world and

how it relates to this day and time. And you think about NATO, right? As a Republican, Hawley being the only person to vote against NATO expansion, it's interesting to look back historically. It was the great senator from Ohio, Robert Alfonso Taft, Bob Taft, who on the right as a conservative, Mr. Republican, voted against NATO in the first place, in the first instance. Wow. There was that wing of the Republican Party, that conservative right that opposed the internationalism that uh nato made sense i see both sides union right so we see this massive expansion of these communist states and so we said okay we need to push back against this expansion right and but there were people there were people on the right uh pre-national review who rejected that and said we don't need nato no we don't need to police the

world no we don't need to have a worldwide war against communism. Yes, we believe communism is doomed to fail. I mean, I don't know. I can't quote the person who said it, but, you know, some maintain that the most ardent believers in the validity of communism were the people in the Kremlin and the conservative movement in the United States, in the sense that we were going to amass all of these resources against an economic system we ultimately believed was doomed to failure. But there was that counter critique from the right on the Cold War, pre-national review. national review i when i think of world war one i think of like uh was the assassination of uh franz ferdinand by uh geo giovanni pre-chip presepi pre-chippy something like that but he was like a serbian national i believe right killed the what was duke of austria hungary i believe

killed him and then austria hungary declared war on serbia i believe is that what it was right and then britain who was an ally of serbia like nato like an alliance declared war on Serbia, I believe. Is that what it was? I think that's right. And then Britain, who was an ally of Serbia, like a NATO, like an alliance, declared war on Austria-Hungary. Britain declared war because they were an ally of the Serbs. Gavrilo. Gavrilo Princip. Thank you very much. He and two other guys tried to kill France. He was the one that actually pulled it off.

But wasn't it like he screwed up and then by luck happened to have accidentally run into him later on? I don't know. There was a carriage going down the road and they were like hiding out and waiting. They couldn't get the thing he threw a grenade in, I think, into the carriage and killed Franz Ferdinand and his wife. Man. Right. And then

so after Austria-Hungary declared war on Britain, I think one of Britain's allies declared war. I'm sorry. After Britain declared war on Austria-Hungary, then Germany declared war on Britain and then France declared war on Germany. Some dumb stuff like that. All of a sudden, you have inadvertently what they call later a world war.

So we got to avoid that. That's what NATO is setting us up for, is if something happens in Sweden, then they declare war on Russia. Or Russia declares war on Sweden because some dumb Sweden national. And then Britain declares war on Russia. Like, come on, guys. Come on. That's the wisdom of war on Russia. Like, come on, guys. Come on. That's the wisdom of George Washington's farewell address, right? That America should avoid being in entangling alliances

with foreign countries to avoid precisely the outcome that you're talking about. But the other argument is if we had not had the defensive alignment against Nazi Germany, that he would have taken Poland and then he would have taken France and then he would have taken Italy, that he would have taken Poland and

then he would have taken France and then he would have taken Italy and then he would have taken over the world. So. But you have to I think you have to start with World War One to analyze everything that happened right afterward and the circumstances that led to really the most catastrophic war in human history up to that point. And what could have been done to prevent it? I mean, it was eminently, in many ways, preventable war. The Second World War?

No, I'm talking about World War I in the first instance. The Great War. The Great War, right. The war to end all wars, the war for democracy and freedom. But again, not well understood, it seems. There's a YouTube channel called The Great War. I highly recommend it. They went from 2014 to 2018.

Every week, they would make a video talking about what happened 100 years before because 1940 was basically the centennial of World War I, and they would go week by week. Every week there's a video about 17 million people died today in the Somme or whatever on this four-month battle that went on in eastern France between the British and the trench and then the Germans, and it was just like kill, kill, kill, kill, kill. They take like a half a mile of land and then the next day they'd get it taken back and they just kill.

Death, death, death. And it's modern war. They keep stressing in modern war the most advanced weapons are used. You do not see it coming. Do not engage in this stuff now. That's my personal statement on it. Do not engage in this. I don't like appeasement though. I don't like the idea of like, let the conqueror conquer. Right. But

I mean, Taiwan is right next to China. It's, it's, it's, I don't know how far away is it? Three miles away from the mainland or something? Not, I don't think it's that close. How close is it? It's, it's, it's right off the coast. Dude, what a, this is probably been having this discussion for a hundred thousand years. But you know, to your point about what the coast. Dude, this has probably been having this discussion for 100,000 years. But to your point about what the people in 1914 to 1918 went through, the courage, the brutality of it. And then you think about the world that we live in today and the difference that each and every one of us can make in the world and the comparatively little sacrifice that we have to make, right, to make a difference, right? Because standing for truth and justice in our world today,

I mean, what's the worst that's going to happen to you? You might lose your job, right? You might lose prestige. You might lose your life. You might, but job, right? You might lose prestige. You might lose your life. You might. You might. But, you know, you're not being asked to run into machine gun fire like those guys were, you know, in World War I. There's a movie called They Shall Not Grow Old.

I believe that's the name of it about World War I where they colorized a lot of footage. When you see the guys get out of the trench and run and just fall down because the machine gun next. Right. I'm reading about what pulled the U.S. into World War I. It's actually a lot of footage. When you see the guys get out of the trench and run and just fall down because the machine gun next. Right. I'm reading about what pulled the U.S. into World War I. It's actually a lot over several years. The sinking of the Lusitania, the SS Arabic, they were attacked. Wilson was furious over unrestricted submarine warfare. Germany backed off.

And then ultimately with the warfare going on, the German submarine offensive, there was food shortages happening in the United States. So then they were just like public support started to ramp up. People were pissed. I'm still reading a little bit, but it's kind of crazy because with World War II, it was like we got attacked. Right. We got attacked and we were like, all right, that's it. We're pissed. World War I, the Americans were funding the British, basically.

They were sending them food and weapons and stuff. So the Germans were like, F this. So they started blowing up American transports. And then Americans were like, hey, basically. They were sending them food and weapons and stuff. So the Germans were like, F this. So they started blowing up American transports. And then Americans were like, hey, don't blow up our transports. We're just ferrying people across the sea. And the Germans were like, no, you're not. Y'all are going to love this. On April 6th, Congress declared war on Germany.

Remember the good old days when Congress declared war? The last time was World War II, right? Was it really? Right. I think that's the last time the United States declared war. Every other war, right? The Iraq War. I mean, I feel like that was the end of the soul of the United States then.

You know, we win World War II and then all of a sudden these corrupt individuals are like, well, now we're going to do limited warfare. Kissinger. I was watching. You guys ever watch The Good Place? No. I'm not that big of a fan, but I'm watching it

because I've watched everything else, basically. It's actually not bad. It's a slightly, it ended a few years ago, but I was just laughing because they were, in the end of the show, they're referencing people on Earth who did good,

and then the demon guy, he's like, well, then I want to name bad people, Henry Kissinger. And then I just started laughing. I was like, that was a great, great reference for a TV show to make. i would love to meet kissinger someday because i

used to think of him as a it's just a vile demon but now i'm like well maybe limited war prevented world war three at the time you know i used to think of him as a vile demon now i think i'm think of him as a narcissistic sociopathic vile demon you know intent on just causing human suffering so you know it's only gotten worse it It's only worse. If we could get materials from place to place without effort, then we're talking. Then we don't really need as much conflict. If we can get food into the desert through stratospheric

drone delivery or something like that. As long as people don't need to take. It's going to be interesting in 50 years. I don't know if it's going to be a civil war or if it's going to be a World War III. But it's looking like it's going to be a World War III and then the U.S. just crumples. And then it's going to be a civil war or it's going to be a world war three but it's looking like it's going to be a world war three and then the u.s just crumples and then it's going to be and then i mean you look at world war one you had the russian revolution right so we could be looking at something like that yeah and the russians pulled out of the war after the communists took over the

they were like communists were like we're anti-war that was a big part of their thing so they killed a bunch of people took the country and basically screwed the the al the what are they called the entente the no the entente was the germans and the austrians the uh central powers the central powers of german officers the entente was the british the french yeah and the italians and uh after russia pulled out it like screwed them over they were like well there goes our ally right now it's every but then americans came in and remember when trump millions said what were even involved in World War I anyway? And then they made fun of him? Yeah, right.

We had Michael Malice on, and he made the same point. He was like, yeah, no, we shouldn't have been. Woodrow Wilson was this disaster of a president. Wasn't he the Federal Reserve president? Yeah, he signed the Federal Reserve Act. He did sign the act. I don't know if he was ever the president of the Fed. No the fed but no no i'm not saying right he was the president at the time yes correct that's right that's what i meant sorry sorry yeah yeah no i meant when i when

i said of the federal reserve i meant like that was something that was you know from the federal right yeah yeah it grew from him yes right right right absolutely yeah what is it he's like the worst president we've ever had he even acknowledged that was the biggest mistake that he ever made. Have you heard that speech where he talks about that he unwittingly gave control of the United States to a bunch of bureaucrats, basically? I didn't realize. No. It's a really great speech.

He did a lot of bad things, though. He did a lot of bad things for the country. He's a bad guy. He's a bad guy. And, you know, the Espionage Act and restrictions on curtailments on civil liberties during the war. Did he do the FBI? No, I don't

know. I don't know who was responsible for the FBI. No, that was later, I think. J. Edgar Hoover was in the 20s, maybe? Maybe. 1908. Oh, wow. Yep. Is that Teddy Roosevelt? Yeah, that wasn't Wilson then. But Wilson was was in the 20s maybe maybe was it 1908 oh wow yep so but i don't think that he rose yeah that wasn't wilson then but wilson was wilson was a progressive and um he

and and our entry into world war one really and i think you can argue created a chain reaction and, and, and did not serve our interest or really the world's interest in many ways. It was Theodore Roosevelt. He did the FBI. Teddy. What about the CIA? The CIA. I wonder if that came later.

Was that, yeah, forties. That's my guess. That was like cold war stuff, right? Right. 1947.

Yeah. So who was a 1947? Truman. Yep. There it is right there.uman yep wow man we look back all this stuff and we're just like what a big mistake and now uh we just keep trucking along did you hear that things keep happening that eisenhower speech when he was leaving office and was like well sorry guys we created a military industrial complex if you let it get out of control it's going to take going to take over. But it was the best we could do. We had no choice.

He was basically alluding to that. Sorry, it's the best we could do. Just don't let it get out of hand. Man, I can only imagine being around in like the late 40s, being involved in this stuff and just thinking to yourself like, well, long-term destruction to this country is underway. You know, just sit back and live your life while you can. I wonder if many of them were thinking that with all the stuff they did. Then you look at everything that we have now, and

it's just spiraling. It's good well-lasted. You know, people need to realize something. We grew up in a golden age. All these millennials, you know, Mary, you especially. Golden age. As bad as everything's been. Like, we've had a recession. We've had COVID and everything. But, like, the 80s to the early the early to like the beginning of 2010 or whatever, it was in the

United States. I understand 9-11. I'm not trying to downplay that. But for a lot of us, it was just like air conditioning, fast food, fast cars, the 90s especially. We didn't, you know, most people grew up in a world where it was like when i'm reading about world war one i'm like holy right like while all this stuff is going on they're like the americans are like we don't want war there's like poncho via expansionism

there's there's northern ireland all of these conflicts happening everywhere people just blowing each other up and then we grew up in this area where it's like the United States embubbled itself. And we are just like, what are we complaining about? I was going to say, you had the Spanish flu too. I think that was in 1918, right? That killed millions of people.

Watching that footage from the, they shall not grow old. Like you see how flimsy the human body is. What we think of as we're protected and all that crap. Like, man, just do what? You provoke it over there. You're provoking it everywhere. I got this quote from Woodrow Wilson. This is after he signed the Federal Reserve Act. He said, I'm a most unhappy man. I've unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of

credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We've come to be one of the worst ruled, growth of the nation therefore and all our activities are in the hands of a few men we've come to be one of the worst ruled one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world no longer a government by free opinion no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men wow but he signed the stupid thing and then he he was like look what i did i don't know why he signed that. Normally, I would, well, we are going to go to Super Chats, but I have bad news. YouTube crashed on us and wiped out most, wiped out all the Super Chats from before like 9, 10.

So we'll just read as many as we can that came after that. But my apologies if YouTube breaks. I don't know, man. But would you kindly smash that like button if you haven't already? Subscribe to this channel and share the show if you do like it. Head over to TimCast.com. We are going to have a members-only segment coming up for you, and we're going to be talking about vaccine mandates and social media policies pertaining to that, efficacy, etc.

And that will be at TimCast.com. And it's going to be particularly interesting. We save the spicier stuff sometimes. Sometimes we have to, unfortunately. But let's read some of your super chats. All right. Steve Houser says, ha, Tim, you just admitted that conservatives do stuff. I gotcha. LOL. Keep doing what you want and need. By the way, there will be no nuclear war. Self-preservation is a major factor self self-preservation is the factor as to why i think there may be because russia is going to russia is looking at nato expanding all around it now finland latvia is i think estonia no no no latvia what are the

countries on the board is it estonia it might be nato nations that are on the border with russia already so now you got Finland. But the map. Yeah, I'm on Brave. So the map doesn't have Google Maps. Well, anyway, you get the point. Russia is going to say in order to preserve ourselves, it's now or never. So that's my fear. All right.

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We have like 30 employees. And we're trying to create a subscription service and build shows and do all that stuff. So these are the early days. Try do it with a different browser, too. He did. He said he tried a bunch of multiple browsers. Clear your cache. I see.

Control F5 maybe. Yeah. So this is why we also do have Stripe. Stripe isn't perfect, but they've done a substantially better job than PayPal. Locals uses Stripe, which is Rumble basically. So we're cool with Stri for uh for the most part but you know i got no issue with them and um their ceo has actually been responsive to issues so i i think they're better way better than paypal but parallel economy is what we're actually excited

to promote and and and be a part of because this is something new that's definitively anti-censorship you were saying um border of russia and the north is finland then estonia latvia and belarus yep lithuania is further and then there was concern about ukraine but uh ukraine had a lot to do with gas uh natural gas and gas prom but finland now you got another nato country on their border yo they're not happy about this is yeah man it's tough all right let's see let's grab some more super chits let's see gad says why nancy pelosi she's the speaker not a diplomat i don't know i think the biden administration said nancy shouldn't go right is that what happened oh i don't know yeah they warned her about about going maybe she was just

oh i there was a story the other day that uh paul pelosi sold off at a loss a bunch of NVIDIA stock. Yeah, $300,000 loss. $365,000 loss. Like one for every day of the year. Some people said it was just tax loss harvesting. Yeah, I was thinking that. That crossed my mind.

They want to write off a loss on their yearly earnings so that they go under some sort of tax bracket. Well, I mean, it's just harvesting a loss. So you can be like, I'm going to keep the stock anyway so you might buy back in or whatever i don't know exactly how it works but uh i just think it's really funny timing you know with taiwan and the tsmc and the chips bill yeah particularly convenient how how is it that you so many people go to was and make $175,000 a year in Congress and create generational wealth.

Yeah, it's amazing, isn't it? It is an interesting question. Isn't it like more than half of Congress are millionaires? Maybe. I don't know. Something like that. Quad Fu says,

please invite Mike Glover on the show. He is the founder of American Contingency whose logo appears on the leaked FBI docs about MVE. He is the founder of American Contingency, whose logo appears on the leaked FBI docs about MVE. He is getting legal together for a potential defamation suit. Interesting. Do you guys see that Ted Cruz smacked down

Ray from the FBI? Negative. I think I did see. Project Veritas released this from a whistleblower that the FBI considers symbols of American history to be extremist symbols, like the Betsy Ross flag. And one of the symbols they list is called the Gonzalez flag. You guys know what that is?

No. It's a cannon, artillery, and it says, come and take it. The story's actually really funny, the history of the Gonzalez, like Texas. And it was the colony, I think, of Gonzalez. I think it was a colony. And they requested defense. And they were given one old brass cannon. And they requested defense and they were given one old brass cannon. And so that's what they had. And then the Mexican colonels or whatever

commanders came over and said, turn over your cannon. And they made a flag with the cannon saying, come and take it. And it's like this one cannon and they're like to war. So the funny thing is when Ted Cruz was like questioning, like why the Betsy Ross flag is on there, he pulls off his own boot and slaps it on the table because his boot has the Gonzalez flag on it. He's from Texas. I thought that was amazing. Yep. And then he mentions that this militia extremism doesn't include any Antifa or any leftist stuff on it.

Or cartels, let's be honest. Yeah. Their lack of what would you call it, I guess, leadership on the cartel management is concerning. The Gadsden flag was on it. Here's a license plate from Virginia. And he's like, so all the people who have Virginia license plates, I see them everywhere over here. Because we're on the border with Virginia. Yep, they're all extremists.

He didn't have an answer. It's just insane. The DOJ has been weaponized completely. They've lost it. All right. Chris Dobler says, weaponized completely. They've lost it. All right. Chris Dobler says, back off China. Japan has Godzilla. All right.

That's right. All right. Let's see. Top Gundy says, several infants were left to die after being born alive during botched abortions in Minnesota in 2021. Wow. Said he sent Lydia the links on Twitter. Terrible. Crazy. Terrible. in minnesota in 2021 wow said they sent the sent lydia the links on twitter terrible crazy terrible

raymond g stanley jr says adrian says it's time for nationalism i agree i agree all right gray's fang wants to challenge ian he says ian you have an ignorant view of christianity you are taking your own personal experiences and nitpicky bias over the littlest thing. Nothing is perfect. Everyone and everything has fault. I can't deny that what you said was true. Well, all right. Andrew Hobson says Taiwan is not, nor has it ever been a territory of China, or as the real ones call it, West Taiwan.

Agreed. Taiwan is the actual China. And the CCP took over the mainland and they're an occupying force. And I am not a fan. Yeah, the Republic of China is what is 170 islands. Taiwan's about 98% of the landmass of their country. Yeah, I'm completely in favor of unification of Taiwan with West Taiwan. It's a good idea. Yeah. I mean, that would be a way I'll be way better for everybody. Imagine what would happen to the CCP, like to the people of China,

if the CCP was, was removed. And it was like, dude, China's amazing, man. As a country, the people, the history. Yeah. And the land, like the geography is incredible too.

The history, dude, of the temples in the West, like in the mountains, in Shu. I want to go. Yeah. Interesting. Man of Culture says, the internment of Japanese ethnics happened because of the

Ni'iahu incident where a Japanese couple tried to help a downed enemy pilot escape Hawaii. Interesting. Tyler W. says, if it makes anyone feel better for Taiwan, China is going to destabilize demographically, politically, and economically in the next decade or so. You know, that's not a good thing. A country that's facing a collapse is a desperate country and war shores up resources. So like, think of the United States and the culture war and food shortages, military industrial complex.

The reason, one of the reasons they say that the U.S. economy did so well after World War II was that we blew up all of the competition. After the war, if you wanted autos, for instance, it was the U.S. building and exporting. And these other industries in Germany and Japan were wiped out. We will see. We will see. Tian Walmaran says China buying farmland and distracting the US with a Taiwan war so Russia can take Ukraine to control fertilizer. It's a bait and switch tactic to ensure we will live under communist rule.

Well, it's coming, man. Yeah, I just saw BlackRock partnered with Coinbase. That's another concern. Yeah. Mike Darusha says, YouTube is making it making it effing impossible for me to send a super chat. This is my seventh attempt.

I've been hearing that. People have been saying for some reason their super chats are getting blocked. They're not able to post them. So I don't know why. But it must be

just an accident. Right? Just a mistake. Just a coding error. Yeah. Maybe the things you're typing in are taboo on the system or something. I had a video. I think it was about trans children or something.

And when it went up, it was getting no views. And then it had no audio on it. On my end, when I played it, it was perfect. When other people played it, there was no audio. And some people didn't even see it. And so then our social media manager here media manager here dane he was like yeah there's no sound what happened and i was like my file's totally fine so i had to re-upload and then delete it very weird and they always just say it must be a mistake and i'm like how does a mistake like that happen come on doesn't happen to jimmy kimm it? All right, let's grab some more. Sparky says NATO started war. Putin's an anti-globalist hero.

I absolutely 100% disagree. I see Putin as despotic. I'm not a fan of what Russia is doing, but I'm also not so blind to just act like NATO's expansion isn't a provocation. I think I do not believe that Putin is a good dude at all. He is not a good dude. All right. Ola, I don't know how to pronounce this, Soberg, says Turkey, Erdogan is still against Sweden and Finland joining NATO. All member states must agree.

What are Putin and Erdogan talking about, you think? I mean, that'd be crazy if Turkey breaks off and sides with Russia. Oh, man, things would get crazy real quick. All right. Jonathan Harris says, question for James. As a fellow NC resident, why do you think we can't even pass medicinal marijuana when I can drive up north to VA and buy legally? You know, that's a good question.

I think there, I know there was a renewed effort in the General Assembly to try to get something done on medical marijuana. And, you know, I think there are, it's a divisive issue for North Carolina Republicans as to, you know, legalization of any marijuana, any liberalization of those laws. So, you know, maybe it's a generational thing. I think there are people in at least the North Carolina Senate that are trying to move the ball forward on that issue.

But, you know, you raise a legitimate question. It doesn't make it's not internally consistent, right, that you could go to the VA and get it, but you can't go elsewhere. It just doesn't make sense. But there are a lot of things that we labor under on a daily basis that are inconsistent, like we saw, of course, in the covid lockdowns, right, that that don't make sense yet, yet are. So hopefully something good will happen in that regard. Tyrant Hunter says, Tim, look at the Venezuela war games this month. China and Russia are being given the ability to build bases there.

Yep, that sounds interesting. Oh, all right. Polly Bruce says, peace will inevitably come soon when the sun, micro nova, the magnetic shield flips and the crust displaces again. Invite Ben Davidson from Suspicious Observer on YouTube channel before it's too late. You know what I'm really excited about? So we have a Tales from the Inverted World hosted by Shane Cashman, and we're launching a new show, The Inverted World Podcast, which is specifically a conversational show,

taking calls. But I also would love to see Shane sit down with all of these different conspiracy theory people. Conspiracy theory is not the right word for it. Like mud flood, for instance, right? You know, that is... Yeah, yeah. The idea that a lot of civilization

has been covered with mud. Like there was one great civilization and then there was a great flood and it buried all of these buildings in mud. that would have been recent too which is the weird thing yeah it's like modern buildings well no they're modern buildings because we think they're modern oh interesting that's what the theory is anyway it's not a conspiracy this this theory it's like weird alternate history stuff so i'm really interested to see if uh if we can incorporate that stuff to

like get some flat earther to try and explain what they think and then you know have like a conversation with people who who think these weird things you know love it yeah there was a funny graphic i commented on earlier it was the sun tabloid showing a map of the world and china was firing missiles to the u.s and the u. missiles back. But it was just like, it was the typical like British style projection of Earth. So as a flat 2D picture, it shows China firing to the West. It's like, you know, China would, if it was a globe, fire to the East, but more importantly, fire to the North because it would go over to the, because the Earth is round. It's going to go over the North Pole before hitting the US.

It also fires straight down from right above us. You know, that can happen too too so keep that in mind when i flew from new york to hong kong we went we went over the north pole and then like that's the shortest distance right so that's what you do but they drew this picture it was actually really funny all right let's grab some super jets brandon bryant says hasn't putin already offered a line to the u.s when he first came into power and the u.s rejected and basically disrespected them is that true i didn't know that that's what it felt like in the late 2013 i mean he wouldn't do interviews and be like that i try to have diplomacy with these people and they won't talk and now they're using

massive propaganda against russia triton 54 says, Ian is correct. A single Ohio-class submarine, SSGN, can fire hundreds of conventional tomahawks and destroy every warship participating in these exercises. More chicken, Ian. Oh, holler. Submarines are crazy. Yeah. You ever been on one? No. You guys ever been on a submarine?

20,000 leagues under the sea at Disney World, maybe. I think that's it. I got to, there was a, I can't remember where I was, but you pay 20 bucks and they let you go onto a submarine 20 000 leagues under the sea at disney world maybe i think that's it i got to there was a i can't remember where i was but you pay 20 bucks and they let you go onto a submarine okay like you just walk up go down that sounds miserable oh my gosh the worst thing ever it was so cramped and i'm like people lived here and they were like yeah and i think like when they i can't remember the number they gave me but i was like that's even crazier it's already cramped like they're there for two months at a time or something well yeah that's so crazy you know i imagine being in that in in the middle of a war too right that never might be the safest place to be i guess yeah maybe yeah you're like no one knows where i am you know i'll just be safely hiding under the water barrett hodges

says britain did not get involved until belgium was invaded by germany in world war one belgium belgium yeah the tripwire cliff lord says ian check out benny willis will's poem who is they on youtube there's a song by the singer gem called they and it's really funny because there's a bunch of like you know, hate speech researchers who claim the word they is anti-Semitic. And it references the Jews specifically. And so then whenever this song, whenever I put on like

Pandora or something and the song comes on, it's called they. And she says like who made up all the rules? We follow them like fools. And then I'm like, based on the context from the Anti-Defamation League, this lady is very anti-Semitic. Like, everything she's saying. But of course, they could be anybody. Well, that's what they do.

I'm referring specifically, in they, I'm referring to like the hate speech researchers. Not any class of people. They, anything you say, they're like, that, what'd you say? That's actually anti-Semitic. And you're like, okay, what? Like when Alex Jones was saying globalist, they came out and claimed globalist was an anti-Semitic slur. And like, okay, what? Like when Alex Jones was saying globalist, they came out and claimed globalist was an anti-Semitic slur.

And I'm like, Alex Jones is not talking about Jewish people. What are you talking about? He's probably more likely to be talking about lizard people than Jewish people. But that's what they do. That's how they get you. The consultant class, is they?

Yeah, the consultant. All right. Catman says, got triggered last night when you denied my existence. LOL. Catman was a DC character at one point. Cat Man. Didn't you claim there was no Cat Man?

I thought there was no Cat Man. You are wrong. Cat Woman. I didn't know there was a Cat Man. Cat Bro. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim, I watched Kill All Others again recently. Y'all should too. It's the Google yellow to white change.

We will be the others unless we are not have you guys seen this what show was that what that was on you want to look that look that up kill all others yeah isn't like you're not an other i think i electric dreams yes yo this is a you should watch it okay everyone everyone listening right now you should watch electric dreams i mean the whole series from the hanging stranger a short story by Philip K. Dick. Yep. So Electric Dreams is Philip K. Dick's stories. The whole show is good. The whole series, like Electric Dreams, it's like

a bunch, it's Philip K. Dick's stories. But the Kill All Others story is like basically this one, this guy one day is watching TV and a politician says that they want to kill all others. And then he's like, what? And then when he goes to work, nobody cares. And he's like, did you see what they said? And they were like, no, you're mistaken. And he's like, no, they really said this. Like, no, that couldn't have happened. The crazy thing about it is

because of what you were saying to me the other day, Ian, where you're like, when you went and talked to your parents and said, Biden's crazy. And your mom was like, no, he's not. Then you come back a month later and she's like, yeah, actually. But that first response, when we had like Richie McGinnis and his mom on, and I mentioned that feminists are more likely to be pro-war these days. And she was like, no, they aren't. It felt just like that show they're portraying. That when this politician said they wanted to kill all others, he goes to work and they're like, no, I don't know what you're talking about. I didn't see that. That's crazy. That never happened. And he's like he's like i watched it how did you not watch it and then he goes outside and there's like a

woman running screaming and people are chasing after her and they throw her down and he's like what are you doing and they're like she's an other and he's like leave her alone and they go what are you an other are you one of them and he's like no no and then like it's basically just a show giving you a metaphor for the others when people start blaming a different faction someone else for their problems it's a good show man you should totally watch it for real i'll have to check it out vadir um sombra says so i have hundreds of pounds of food many bags of sticks with thousands of food pellets. As we approach potential World War III event, how do I explain, express to those in denial? Well, I don't know if, like, look, I'll put it this way.

China just fired a bunch of missiles over Taiwan. So, I mean, if you're going to be a prepper, now's really the time to be a prepper, I guess. They said a food shortage is coming. I'm not telling anybody to stock up on, you know, beans or anything like that. But if a food shortage is coming and they keep saying it they're screaming it you know i'll put it this way we talk about how you know we say joe biden's crazy and your mom doesn't see it yeah mentally deficient was i think of your mom the weird thing is i told her that like five months ago and she was like yeah

yeah i know which i get it i get it then i saw her again and she was like no he's not he's fine then i saw her the third time she's like yeah yeah, yeah, I know. I get it. I get it. Then I saw her again and she was like, no, he's not. He's fine. Then I saw her the third time. She's like, yeah, yeah, I get it. I'm like, what is happening? How can someone go in and out of this? Like you want to, I guess she wants to like him.

I think that's the problem. Yeah. I don't know, man. I'll just tell you. There's a lot of people who aren't paying attention. And so when you say something like, I just bought some emergency food,

they laugh. They're like, well, what are you talking about? You're crazy. And then you're like, well. That's a self-soothing thing. Yeah. To say that preppers are crazy.

Yeah. Preppers are laughing. You know, like they could, China could literally launch an ICBM and they'd be sitting in their rocking chair with their shotgun being like, I'm good. I know what's up. I don't care. So it's kind of like, what do you have to lose by prepping? Did preppers lose out on anything

not that i know of hunting and farming and you know foraging and storing up food and just living and then everyone's laughing at them and they're like i don't care like they're not being hurt at all by prepping at all yeah i would say don't don't like publicize your your prep because you become a target to people that don't have anything. That's probably the worst thing that could happen from a vocal prepper. Yeah. But in the event something does happen, they're going to be like, okay, I'm good. Everyone else will be screaming.

It'll be like there'll be zombie apocalypse in New York. What do you think 2.5 million people on Manhattan Island are going to do in three days when there's no food left? Yeah. Create new types of food. Create new types of food. Create new types of food? Eat each other is what I'm talking about. We've never. Eat fish.

Don't go fishing is what I meant. Yeah. In the Hudson. The beautiful Hudson River. Lots of fishing. The Gowanus Canal. Yeah. Sludge.

Yeah. The people who will start. It's going to be like fallout, but not because of nuclear wars because they're going to start eating fish from the Hudson. And then their skin is going to start falling off. Remember that TikTok of that girl that jumped in the Hudson River with the Statue of Liberty in the shot? No. What happened? I guess she wasn't from New York, but she jumped in the water. I think she ended up being fine, though.

Yeah, you end up being sick. It would have been funny if she jumped out. She was like, ah, and her skin's like melting. It's like the guy from Indiana Jones when they opened the Ark of the Covenant. Is it just like a human waste dump and a chemical dump or something, the river? It's just filthy. It's a city. There's tons of waste.

I'm going to tell you guys a story. It's been a long time, so I could be getting this wrong, just taking into consideration. But when I was working for this environmental nonprofit, they said they went to Lake Michigan Beach in Chicago, and they asked everyone to do a survey. Everybody filled out a survey and gave their information. They said, we're going to call you back in a couple days. They then called everybody back and asked them if they had gotten sick and what kind of sickness they got. And it was something like 90% of people who went into Lake Michigan got diarrhea within the next day. Like they got sick from something.

They probably ingested some of the water. The water is filthy. Because all that crap from all the cities around Lake Michigan funnels down into Chicago. And then everyone swims in it. Ew. Yeah. Yup. That's Chicago.

Gotta love it. I always had this fake conspiracy theory that on saint patrick's day when they dye the river green they're just finding a way to secretly get rid of toxic waste like yeah we're dying the river greens pouring sludge and industrial waste into the river then everyone's like yay no they're just dying green it's so weird that they dye the river green is it with algae or something? like some natural way? I don't know maybe my fake conspiracy is a real conspiracy people actually think it

or something alright Ken says no offense to your sponsors but also being low carb what plans do you make for emergency food or would you go full 1700s and switch to easier to store grains etc avoid turkeys they're mean um yo if the apocalypse happened i'll eat

tree bark like i'll eat what i have to eat you can eat leaves i was working one day and i saw a deer eating leaves and then i looked up can you eat leaves and you can you can eat them they you know we eat we eat a lot of leaves you know spinach yes romaine all the good stuff but uh i was reading like what you're supposed to do and this thing online said you rip the leaf and then rub it on your skin and then wait 15 minutes. And if there's no reaction, then you rip a leaf and then you rub it on your mouth. And then you wait. And if there's no reaction, then you take a small piece and you eat it and you wait. And if there's no reaction, then you eat a little bit more.

And then after a few days of slowly increasing, you'll find out if you're safe to eat certain leaves. Probably everyone should do that. If there's a group of people, one person doing it isn't enough because someone might have an allergy same thing with berries now look don't take advice from me i'm just saying i read something online i don't know if it's true but they would say like you take like a fruit and you rub it on your skin to see if it causes some kind of reaction or toxin or something like that but also out here we got uh wine berry season and we got pawpaw season coming up i'm really excited for that there's just there's it's just like infinite food.

You go outside, and they're just raining pawpaws down on your head, and they're hitting you, and they're delicious. I'm reading about the Chicago River getting dyed. It says it's more or less food coloring. I don't know what that means. Why would they do more or less? That's so wild. I wonder what they dye it with.

I got to know. Remember when Dave Matthews Band's bus driver released all the sewage onto that boat? Yeah. On top of somebody. It's a Chicago legend. They were driving over the bridge, and then the bus driver just pressed the black water release because the bridge is graded, and they thought they'd get away with it. And then there's a boat, like a wedding party, right underneath, and they all got sprayed.

Yeah. The legend of the dave matthews band i don't want to say what it's called but we'll call it the ish shower wow yep those were the days man all right right yeah man sheldon france says submarine submariner here our s SSBNs have the capacity to carry enough nuclear warheads to blow up a majority of the world. We have 14 of them. Woof. I don't know why. That's not a good thing.

But what do you do when everyone else is doing it, man? Mike DeRussia says, Greens in a salad are dandelion leaves. Greens? What do you mean greens? Like collard greens or what? I think just that the greens in the... It's a strange i think the sentence fragment was improperly typed but it's quote greens

end quote in a salad i don't know is that like what spring mix or something i don't know what you're talking about i know you can eat dandelion i didn't know that dandelion is not native to here we brought it here because it was medicinal and And then I started watching all these videos of these mountain hillbillies doing the deep fried dandelion. It's like an Appalachia thing. Yeah, I'm excited to try it. We just don't have any dandelions right now. Alright, last I'm going to say on the Chicago River

getting dye green. They do it with 60 pounds of dye and it's top secret formula that they call leprechaun dust. Someone commented that it was like a totally safe plant-based food dye. Then it must be true. I hope it is. Dear God, how could you do that to your fish pot?

When did they start doing it? I don't know. 60s? 60s? No, no. Some guy at a big factory and he's like, what am I going to do with all this industrial waste? Yeah, yeah. 1962.

Orange when it's in powder. Just dump it in the river. It's orange? When it's dry. Oh, weird. Orange when it's in powder. Just dump it in the river. It's orange? When it's dry. Oh, weird. I don't know. Wow. All right, my friends.

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