Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #590 - FBI SEIZES Phone From GOP Rep, Trump Raid Judge Tied To Epstein w/Michael Seifert

Episode Date: August 10, 2022

Tim, Ian, Mary of Pop Culture Crisis, and Lydia host CEO of the Public Square app (https://publicsq.com) to discuss the GOP representative who's phone was seized by the FBI, the Epstein connection of ...the judge who signed off on the Trump FBI warrant, the armed protesters expected at Mar-a-Lago, Hillary Clinton gloating and cashing in on Trump's raid, the disgusting story of the human feces in the mail to GOP representatives, and the 'white pill' that is Michael's PublicSquare app which connects conservatives and non-woke companies. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We have new reports that the FBI has seized the cell phone of a Republican representative a day after the FBI raided the home of Donald Trump. This could be, I mean, well, you know what, I'm not going to say what it could be. I'm going to say this. George Conway, of all people, said they have crossed the Rubicon. I completely agree. We woke up, when we got that news, we covered it. That was the moment this country was forever changed.
Starting point is 00:00:26 And now we are in what donald trump calls dark days we now have new information which is lighting up the internet with conspiracy theories the judge who reportedly signed the search warrant of trump's home is linked to jeffrey epstein in and when i first heard this i was like linked to addison what does that mean like he knew a guy who knew a guy. And then it's like, actually, he was a federal prosecutor who switched sides and started working to defend Epstein's lieutenants. And it's like, oh, what? That's the guy. He's an Obama donor as well.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Okay. Well, the other thing is, when stories like this big happen, that's all the news is. So we're going to talk about that. Plus, we got other weird stories like, OK, I'm just going to say it. Some dude was sending feces to Republicans in the mail. What? And Hillary Clinton is fundraising off of Trump being rated, basically saying that what she did was worse, but she got away with it. So give her money because she knows you will. Head over to timcast.com
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Starting point is 00:02:10 Who are you? Good corn farmer, sir? Yes. Yes. My last name is pronounced Seifert, which apparently, in kind of German slang, used to mean exceptional corn harvester. So I can thank my ancestors for the endearing nickname. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:24 My name is Michael Seifert. I'm the CEO and founder of a company called Public Square. That's how most people know me. As of late, we are essentially the largest network of non-woke businesses in the country. We have been disheartened by the world of woke corporatism, so we built a platform that's interactive and social in nature for people to be able to connect with the companies that are standing against woke corporatism. And I will also add on top of that, I'm excited you're here.
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Starting point is 00:03:13 Right on. We also have Mary Morgan. You do have me. Yes. My name's Mary. I co-host Pop Culture Crisis on YouTube. We're here at TimCast, and we cover all of the celebrities, movies, entertainment, art, culture, games, stuff like that. We have fun over there.
Starting point is 00:03:32 I'm happy to be back, and I know you all missed me very much. You also have Ian Crossland. That's right. Video game connoisseur, actor, musician. My pleasure to be here. You're graced with your presence. I'm looking forward. Thank you so much, Mary.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Great to see you, too. Let's keep it going that's right i am also on pop culture crisis every wednesday three to about 5 p.m it's always a lot of fun you guys should join us over there let's go just real quick what do you think we should we should leave with the epstein thing or the or the raid so so the raid on the season of the cell phone i think is like big breaking news it's like maybe we should go with that and then we'll talk about the Epstein stuff. Right. Yeah, I think that makes sense. Let's jump with this.
Starting point is 00:04:10 We'll jump to the story. Then we have this from Washington Times. Trump ally Rep. Scott Perry says FBI seized his cell phone one day after the raid on former President Donald Trump. The FBI has seized the cell phone of a Republican member of Congress. Rep. Scott Perry, Pennsylvania Republican, said in a statement to Fox News that three FBI agents handed him a warrant and demanded his phone. Quote, This morning, while traveling with my family, three FBI agents visited me and seized my cell phone.
Starting point is 00:04:35 They made no attempt to contact my lawyer, who would have made arrangements for them to have my phone if that was their wish. I'm outraged, though not surprised, that the FBI, under the direction of Merrick Garland's DOJ, would seize the phone of a sitting member of Congress. Mr. Perry's statement did not elaborate on whether he was told anything about what the FBI was seeking on the phone. Mr. Perry is a founding member and current chairman of the Conservative House Freedom Caucus. As a close ally of former President Donald Trump, the Democrat-appointed January 6th panel
Starting point is 00:05:06 has shown interest in his communications with Trump around that time. It's fascinating. Wasn't Ron DeSantis also one of the founders of the Freedom Caucus? I'm not sure. I don't know that. I would believe it.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Look it up. We're big fans of the Freedom Caucus. We are. And I have to say, this is not surprising in the least. But, man. Look, when a story like this this happens it's kind of like oh wow that's bad when steve bannon gets arrested you're like oh wow that's bad after the raid on
Starting point is 00:05:34 donald trump's home it's a it's a whole new territory now now this is a sitting member of congress had his phone seized by the feds. Yeah, DeSantis did help start the Freedom Caucus. Where we are right now is that it's not former administration officials. It is current elected representatives being targeted by the Department of Justice. So where does this end? Do I remember you talking about? Civil War. Yeah, of course. All right. Take your drinks, everyone. So Tim talked about this situation where there would be two cars driving somewhere. I don't remember the story. It was Matt Saiby. Matt Saiby wrote this.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Really? Matt Saiby wrote, I think it was last October. That's great. That we will get to the arrest that man phase, which sparks a civil war, where you will have two cars speeding towards a police jurisdiction where the men will jump out and point at each other, arrest that man. Is that where we are? We're beyond that.
Starting point is 00:06:29 So the question about that stuff is, will there be a fight over the institution of law enforcement? Democrats have weaponized it. Republicans are too weak. Look, I appreciate Rick Santorum being on this show. But he was like, no, we got to follow the rules. We can't do this stuff. And it's like, I'll see you in the Gulag, brother. I'm full abolish the FBI at this point.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, and that's the reality is like that. I think in the battle for law enforcement, there's still some constitution adhering, awesome local police officers, sheriffs and communities around the country. But the FBI and I'm not saying that they're all bad apples, but my goodness. I mean, the whole institution itself has been robbed and it's so centralized in nature so i i people still have hope for it i don't i think the only answer with the fbi an institution that's as nationalized and
Starting point is 00:07:15 centralized as that at this point is get rid of it we're in like can't reform it a completely different reality maybe not completely but but relative to like 1970 when it was wiretapping phones and it was a big deal like when n Nixon got found to be wiretapping the Democratic, whatever it was, the Democrats during his campaign. Yeah, the DNC or whatever. Now it's digital. So much data is stored digitally. And for these companies to be able to – and I'm calling the FBI a company because it's kind of functioning like its own company – is able to just like peruse digital data and scrape huge amounts of people's data, conversations and stuff. It didn't exist 50 years ago, so maybe we do need new rules and functions.
Starting point is 00:07:52 But the thing is, de facto, whoever can do it is going to do it. I saw Hasan Piker tweeted. You know, you're a left-wing guy. He said something about liking watching Stephen Crow crowder cry to to defund the fbi or whatever and i'm like hasn't crowder ragged on the fbi for a really really long time this isn't new yeah no i mean you know so i'm like i hear your brother hassan you know when you're like cheering for steven crowder talking about defunding the fbi and i'm like many of us have been there for a while now maybe maybe if you agree with that maybe there's like a caucus
Starting point is 00:08:25 that can be formed between progressives and republicans where it's like okay we all agree we're gonna get rid of that one maybe the atf while we're at it i mean they don't like the government right they're supposedly yeah so how about we all just say uh you know um abolish many of these doj dhs institutions huh how about that i'm all in for getting rid of the three-letter agencies i think it's time. You look at their track record. I'm a big, like, you can tell a tree by the fruit, and the fruit of the FBI has been nothing but tyranny.
Starting point is 00:08:52 That seems very corporate in nature for the last two, three decades. And this goes all the way back to, you're right, the 70s. And even, I would argue, even further than that. But the FBI is an institution. The CIA is an institution that has such a political agenda to it that it's impossible to claim that they're biased. And that's you even had people today like Andrew Yang that was calling that out. That was willing to admit that like this looks political in nature. And so when people's immediate de facto response at this point is like, oh, there's the FBI being political again, that's a sign
Starting point is 00:09:27 that the tree is rotten. The fruit's rotten. This thing needs to just be uprooted. Yeah, 100%. This is the first time I've ever retweeted Andrew Cuomo because he was on it quicker than some of these Republicans. Same for Andrew Yang. But you know why he was on it? Okay, first, he's worried. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:09:43 I will first say I can respect that Cuomo came out and said the right thing. Right. I will give him credit for that. I will then add, maybe the guy who killed 15,000 people by putting COVID patients in nursing homes might be a little worried about what the government's going to do when they go after politicians. He's sitting in his living room and he sees the news and he goes, wait, we're doing that now?
Starting point is 00:10:03 I thought we were off limits. No, no, no, no, no. We got to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When it comes for you, man. Amazon has everything for every kind of birthday. Whether that's a three-tier cake stand. Happy birthday.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Comet balloons for your son's space-themed party. Or gifts like a karaoke machine for that friend who never stopped singing from cake stands to karaoke machines shop everything for every party on amazon that's the problem with the weaponization of all this stuff but uh i don't know i don't i don't know how the republicans i don't know how the republicans i don't know what the republicans would even do kevin mccarthy's acting like he's like mark your calendar merrick garland because when we get in in november we're going to send you more sternly worded letters while you continually destroy this country i don't understand why what like worst
Starting point is 00:11:02 case scenario or even just like normal case scenario if trump were to get elected again and to get an office like what would be what would be that bad he's gonna fire him maybe maybe people will get fired maybe that's what this is about but like really the threat of our country is not there there's no like oh maybe something is going to devastate like we're okay it's the economy is bad and we need to fix the economy, regardless of who's in power. The bureaucratic state has been in power for too long, and they will not let an elected official remove them from power. There is this parasitic entity that is the bureaucratic state latched onto our country, suckling away and controlling it like a brain slug. And Donald Trump is trying to remove it, but it's almost impossible.
Starting point is 00:11:45 It is resisting. These people aren't elected. They get appointed. They stay in through numerous administrations, these civil servants. So I often, we've talked about it on the show, you know, a president gets into office, they're like, I'm going to get the troops out of the Middle East.
Starting point is 00:11:58 And then a bunch of documents land on the desk, and they say, no, you're going to bomb this guy, this guy, and this guy. And he goes, okay, I'm going to blow up kids. And that's exactly what happens. So when Donald Trump gets in, this is my theory, my hypothesis. They say, okay, Mr. President, you're the president. Fine. Boom.
Starting point is 00:12:13 They slam the files on the desk. This is our agenda. This is what we do. And he goes, no, no, we're not doing any of that. That's stupid. I don't know. I don't know why you want to do that. And then they start saying, no, no, you don't understand.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Like we're the CIA. Like we do these things. This is what we're doing in wine goes don't know don't care how does it help america and they're like okay we got to stop this guy i think there was a point uh before trump got elected he had a meeting with a bunch of like establishment figures i was in dc for apparently was like in a building somewhere and i bet they were like if you win will you play ball and he said if i win i'm the president and? And he said, if I win, I'm the president and we're going to do
Starting point is 00:12:47 what America wants. And then I think these people were like, okay, that's it. He can't win. He can't be allowed to win. So I'll give you a real world. I'll give you an example. Our Middle Eastern agenda.
Starting point is 00:12:56 I talk about it often, the Qatar-Turkey pipeline. We had a multi-presidential agenda. It doesn't matter who the president is. We were doing this, building these pipelines, trying to get energy into Europe, competing with Russia.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Donald Trump comes in and goes, no, excuse me, no, and he shuts it all down. Shut down the TPP, too. TPP, oh, that was like kicking them into balls. Yeah, really. So they're shrieking. Now Donald Trump says, I'm going to fire all of them. Schedule F. And they're just losing their minds.
Starting point is 00:13:29 So this is what you get. When you have unelected bureaucrats who actually run your country. Ray signed off on this. This is what people are saying. I don't want to pretend to know what's going on in the inner workings of this. But they know what they're doing. They are trying to stop someone from being able to become the duly elected president for a second term. This is also like you don't – this is Kennedy. He came out and he was like, I'm going to break up the CIA. And then Kennedy got assassinated.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Like you don't threaten the CIA. If you're going to fire people, you just do it when you have the ability to do it. You don't like tell them all ahead of time you're going to do it. Well, let me ask you, like do you know what the – like why leave – why – what was the motivation of Lee Harvey Oswald? What the actual story is like what's the what is like an angry communist fidel castro sympathizer and he didn't like kennedy yeah i mean that's maybe i guess that's the story yeah it's a story but he was working with groups that were i think what happened was he loaned a group of radicals his gun and then they place they they
Starting point is 00:14:22 killed kennedy and put his gun in the building well didn't kennedy want to get us stop vietnam or something like that yeah he was a pretty anti-war guy in general why would a comedy escalating he's actually escalating vietnam he was escalating yeah but he but he had always said that there was a power greater than him that was manufacturing a lot of the crises that were happening remember he was like there's that famous quote that kennedy was basically saying that i'm not fully the one in charge here. There's a whole different thing happening behind the curtain. And then, obviously, he's taken out. Also, he and his brother Bobby went hard on the mob.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Hard on the mob. So they think maybe the mob was involved in killing him. Do you guys want to pull back the curtain a little bit? Yes. All right. Take a look at this story from the New York Post. No. The judge who okayed the Mar-a-lago raid is an obama donor
Starting point is 00:15:06 once linked to jeffrey epstein what now i stated this in the intro to the show when i heard the news i said yeah yeah it was a what does epstein linked mean it's like his brother once catered a restaurant epstein served dinner at you know you get these sensational headlines and then i read it and it was he was a federal prosecutor who abruptly switched sides joining the defense for Jeffrey Epstein for his lieutenants, not for Epstein specifically. And OK, that's weird. Check it out. Reinhart was elevated to magistrate judge in 2018 after 10 years in private practice. That November, the Miami Herald reported that he had represented several of Epstein's employees, including by Reinhart's own admission to the outlet, Epstein's pilots, his scheduler, Sarah Kellen and Nadia Marcinkova, who Epstein once reportedly described as his Yugoslavian
Starting point is 00:15:56 sex slave. Kellen and Marcinkova were among Epstein's lieutenants who were granted immunity as part of a controversial 2007 deal with federal prosecutors that allowed him to plead guilty to state charges rather than federal crimes. Epstein wound up serving just 13 months in county jail and was granted work release. That's really, really interesting. In the Miami Herald story they mention, actually, look, they say he donated to Barack Obama's presidential campaign months after he left the local U.S. Attorney's office to rep employees of the convicted pedo Jeffrey Epstein, who had received immunity in the long-running trafficking investigation of the financier. So this guy was accused.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Many are arguing, I guess his side of it was he didn't have any previous information or anything. They say 10 months after starting work for Epstein's co-conspirators, according to the Federal Election Commission, Reinhart gave $1,000 directly to the Obama campaign and another $1,000 to its fundraising arm, the Obama Victory Fund. Though the records show the judge made mostly small-dollar donations, blah, blah, blah. I don't know how much I care about the donation stuff, but I think what's interesting is that he's basically accused of flipping sides. In a 2013 court filing,
Starting point is 00:17:07 Reinhart's former colleagues contradicted him, saying he had learned confidential non-public information about the Epstein matter while employed by the U.S. Attorney's Office. Reinhart noted to the Herald
Starting point is 00:17:18 in response that a complaint filed against him by a lawyer for Epstein's victims had been dismissed. In a 2011 affidavit, Reinhart denied he had done anything improper and insisted that since he was not involved in the federal investigation for Epstein's victims had been dismissed. In a 2011 affidavit, Reinhart denied he had done anything improper and insisted that
Starting point is 00:17:26 since he was not involved in the federal investigation of Epstein, he was not privy to inside information about the case. As recently as January 2015, Reinhart was asked
Starting point is 00:17:34 to appear on Newsmax to give analysis on the Epstein fallout but declined to publicly note his own role in the case. Okay. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:17:43 It's just he's a judge in the area. That's all it is, right? Maybe it's just one big coincidence. My favorite conspiracy theory right now, Donald Trump apparently took classified documents to Mar-a-Lago. The conspiracy theory is he took it as leverage from his time as president. I mean, look, people were saying that if Trump lost, they would lock him up, right? And so now the theory is Trump took leverage. They're trying to get the leverage back. That being said, I do believe the simple solution in the absence of evidence is simply that Trump had a bunch of staffers grabbing boxes from the
Starting point is 00:18:21 White House when he was leaving. Some of those boxes had documents. That's about it. But if that's all that it is, like if I said this today, if I was on the left right now and if I was a big, you know, anti-Trump person, I would be furious at the FBI right now. I'd be furious at this judge because if you shoot the king and miss, like your whole case is destroyed. You just made the best possible argument for trump 2024 so if it's really just oh well there's a few boxes that got pulled from some staffers and ended up in his house and that was enough to issue this whole raid on his house and you saw today the fbi saying we don't like the word raid stop using raid so then you saw msnbc go in real time and change the word raid to a oh a routine search warrant and so if it's all that it was is just some boxes got left behind, like they just made the case for Trump 2024. Which says to me, I mean, I believe they know that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:09 That going after a sitting president is a very, very serious matter. So they really wanted whatever those documents were. Again, look, when it comes to conspiracy theories, they're fun. I'd love to believe in a world where Trump is behind the scenes and he's like walking down the hallway. And they're like, Mr. Former President, we have the plan. We have the documents here. And he's like, they don't know who they're up against. But in reality, it's like some intern grabbed a box and he's just like, what are they searching for?
Starting point is 00:19:39 They're in my safe. And then they find a box and it's like just routine confidential nonsense. Is Trump the mastermind everybody wants him to be? Is there a deep underground? Is there a cabal? Is there a secret conspiracy? Are the elites at war? I don't think he's a mastermind, but I do think you nailed it earlier when you were talking about some of the agencies in the deep state that his presidency exposed, like how big that rot was.
Starting point is 00:20:03 So I think Trump's a guy more than anything that's just honest and pretty bombastic in nature and so he came in and he's going with his playbook and there are a lot of people in the way of that playbook and i don't think it was because of his genius 4d chess i think he was just being different than any president we've ever had and in turn it blew up a lot of the china that was in the oval office and in the bureaucratic establishment of dc and then all of a sudden we're realizing that like, whoa, the mess is way deeper than we realized and so we credit that to Trump, but Trump's
Starting point is 00:20:30 just being who he is. Trump just came in like a bull in a china shop and knocked everything over and in turn we're learning like, whoa, this stench is rotten. I think what I've said in the past about Trump is that he slips on a banana peel but pulls a perfect backflip. Yes. Like you watch him go whoa and then he just went.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Like the Ukraine gate. The phone call he had with, I think it was Alinsky, was funny because he was like, what's this thing we're hearing about Joe Biden and the prosecutor? I don't know. Could you look into that? And it was like they tried painting Trump as this nefarious 4-D chess mastermind who was orchestrating, sabotaging Joe Biden's candidacy when the reality was
Starting point is 00:21:06 he was on Twitter and he saw a video someone retweeted of Biden saying, if you don't fire the prosecutor, you don't get the billion dollars. And Trump's like, well, I better call this guy
Starting point is 00:21:14 and ask him. He's like, what is that? And so they're like, he's a mastermind trying to sabotage Biden. He probably slipped on a banana peel, but it worked. Yeah, it worked.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Now we all know about it so more Forrest Gump than Adolf Hitler is what you're saying yeah that's a really good way to put it he's not thinking ten steps ahead and it works out I actually people believe what they want about Trump that's fine
Starting point is 00:21:39 my big thing is that I believe he means what he says especially related to his motivations around things. Honestly, he's pretty forward about his own self-interest in a lot of dealings. But his self-interest ends up helping the American people in a lot of ways. This was his campaign in 2016. It's like this pro-America nationalist sort of mentality around things like manufacturing and the economy in general. That resonated with American people because by being himself, in turn, it was really fighting for the interest that Americans finally felt
Starting point is 00:22:08 like were represented by a political candidate. And I just, you know, I'm chilling. Things may be bad. The night is always darkest before the dawn. But from 2016 to now, when you think about how the establishment lost control, it's kind of funny. Yeah. He gave me kind of a schadenfreude of their failures.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Oh, yeah. He gave me a psychic jolt of like, you as an american can take care of yourself and your your immediate reality but it also i've started to think about the military industrial complex and i used to be very hateful of it and critical of it but now i'm like there's gonna be one on earth there's gonna be an overarching military is it gonna be one that the u.s controls or is gonna be one that china controls i want i controls, or is it going to be one that China controls? I just want to make sure I issue a clarification, because it may have sounded as if we were saying
Starting point is 00:22:49 he does have classified information. I don't know that. That's just the accusation. People are claiming that the Feds did seize the documents they were looking for. I don't know if that's confirmed. I saw these tweets where they're like, well, if they went in there, that means they had to have gotten a warrant, which means he must have been committing a crime.
Starting point is 00:23:05 I'm like, what in the hell kind of reverse logic did you do? Well, they don't believe in the Fifth Amendment. Innocent until proven guilty. And just because they say they found something doesn't mean they found something. You really need evidence here. We've got to display evidence. I don't like the Patriot Act. I don't like that people can detain people without recourse.
Starting point is 00:23:25 This is insane. Are you even starting to understand the banality of evil, Ian? These are people who are cheering for the idea of guilty until proven innocent. Well, I don't hear innocent people getting raided by the FBI, so clearly it must mean Trump's guilty. If you have nothing to hide, then let them spy on you. No, that's not
Starting point is 00:23:42 how it works, man. You have the right to privacy. Yeah, and I tweeted something the other day about the IRS and how these 87,000 agents are coming and they're going to make your life worse in every conceivable way. And someone said, well, you shouldn't be worried if you don't have anything to hide. And I'm like, so I should be fine with surveillance because I don't have anything to hide. That's the exact same argument. What about your balls? Yeah, right. If they're putting cameras everywhere, maybe you don't want people looking at your body.
Starting point is 00:24:04 And also, what if they pass some new law where it's like it's illegal to be a human and then they're like you're like or it's illegal to walk outside until like you can't make a stupid law and then yeah uh spy on someone to see if they're violating your stupid law and then bust them for that yeah just because your conscience is clean and you're not doing anything wrong doesn't mean you should have your house broken into especially when you're the former president of the united states with all the political implications that come with that. And then even this representative from Pennsylvania, like he just said what happened. Agents walked up, took his phone.
Starting point is 00:24:33 They could have gone through the lawyers. There would have been a cordial process, but it was that, nope, you know what? We believe you're guilty already, and we're just going to yank it. They want to make sure he didn't delete anything off his phone. But, like, they gave Hillary Clinton plenty of time to stop her emails. She bleached her whole – She had her phone smashed with hammers. Of course, she was working with the DNC and the Democratic establishment. I don't like calling it.
Starting point is 00:24:51 I don't want to play Democrat-Republican here. She's with that liberal economic order. And I don't think this guy was. Fair point is that Trump has not been charged with anything. And they did take Hillary Clinton's server and scan through it and read every email. Yeah, I saw some pretty damning stuff come out of her emails. Oh, yeah. Oh, I mean, there was a hundred.
Starting point is 00:25:10 I mean, well, for one, the WikiLeaks stuff, DCCC and things like that. But she had 110 classified emails. So people are pointing out now like, yeah, well, they did it to Hillary and she didn't get charged with a crime and Trump's not being charged with a crime. And it's like, yes, we understand. There is a double standard. Yeah. They're not going to come out and be like, yes, we understand. There is a double standard. Yeah. They're not going to come out and be like, well, Trump did it, but so did Hillary. No, they're going to be like, Trump did it.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Lock them up. I'm getting the feeling people are like starting to accept that. It's like, oh, just OK. Maybe the government is kind of dirty and evil and they got a side that they want you to be on. But I just want to be on that side. Then let's just keep doing our life. Let's keep having Sunday cookouts and eating watermelon and life's gonna be dandelions but like uh at some point you got to stand up for righteousness itself and and like not just
Starting point is 00:25:55 be in a club i don't know man maybe that's not true maybe it's like pick your tribe and that's how it's always been i don't know i yeah no, I don't know how you would go to sleep at night. If I knew what was right and I don't do it, it's that exact thing. I'm denying righteousness. I'm denying the opportunity to make change. I think people have lost the hope that they can make change, which is a deeper issue, because I think they feel like, okay, well, the establishment's in place, and clearly it's not moving. If they're willing to go after the former president, like, they can destroy my life.
Starting point is 00:26:22 I think there's a level of hopelessness. But my big encouragement to people all the time is like that happened over the course of a few decades it can be reversed over the course of a few decades as well like all you need is someone to come in into different positions of power in regions around the country that basically strip everything out one thing that i'm excited about that i was disappointed in trump even going back to this conversation in 2016 as he had all these hopes of draining the swamp he gets in he refuses to fire a lot of the people that made the problems really really bad his worst mistake was that he had personnel around him that
Starting point is 00:26:54 was really detrimental now i think if it was to be him or anyone in 2024 you're right in everything is so out in the open that it's like you can't deny it anymore you have to uproot or else we're not going to make it moving forward this is why they they won't allow a power check exactly this is this is the democratic establishment the democrats and many conservatives rejecting the peaceful transition of power but they're doing it early it's funny because there's viral tweets jack posobic retweeted one guy who's who was criticizing trump over ukraine gate saying he was going after his political rival and it's like are where are you now yeah because because what's what's the difference yeah if that was your argument yeah joe biden didn't announce he was running for
Starting point is 00:27:34 president no one thought he was gonna yeah they didn't think he was a front runner and the funny thing is many progressives who are bernie progressives were telling me like he's clearly going after biden i'm like aren't you a bernie supporter like what makes you think biden is the front runner why why wouldn't trump be going after bernie he was the guy everyone was talking about and they were like oh well you know in regards to what you're saying michael about winding it back like it took us 20 years from the patriot act to get to this crazy surveillance state that we could wind it back i don't know if that's true because the digital data is there to be scraped and it's like we have to go forward and create like encryption, like levels of quantum encryption that even government agencies and military complex machines can't hack if that's possible. And it's like there's no it's like an avalanche.
Starting point is 00:28:20 And we're not going to make the avalanche go back uphill. You just got to figure out how to build a suit so that you can swim the avalanche and not get crushed by the snow what does reversing course mean for individuals anyway in what in what context in this transfer of power well because we complied with it for two decades like we we've done the things we've danced the dance we've done what they've told us to we bought the stuff from china we sacrificed our convictions and what made america special on the altars of cheap convenience we did the things so that we could have levels of ease and convenience in the marketplace and our travel experience and etc and i think part of reverting course in my mind looks like the average american standing up and just detaching from that system anymore saying i'm not going to keep going along
Starting point is 00:29:03 with it and so we saw a lot of that happen in the past year with covid and the whole vaccine and stuff is you had people finally get pushed to a brink where they said like my job's on the line but i don't care my convictions are so strong that i'll let them fire me and they'll take away the demand and then you see companies start to revert course because of that i think that's how we do it for a lot of people it wasn't just about convictions it was just a stress test yeah some people were like i'm just done i'd rather sleep on our bench i'd rather just sleep in the street than deal with all of this stuff let me pull up this next story we have this tweet from talk radio 77 wabc breaking news palm beach authorities on alert about armed protesters expected at Mar-a-Lago.
Starting point is 00:29:47 And I love the comments. People are saying things like, it's going to be a bunch of guys in polo shirts, khaki shorts, and sunglasses. You know it. With short trim hair. That's right. Fed boys. So I don't know if there's any developments on this or how much this story is legit. But we did see a bunch of people out in front of mar-a-lago protesting
Starting point is 00:30:05 and cheering for trump and so when i see a story like this for one fed boys that's basically what everybody is saying that they're going to come out and it's going to you know what would you call it i guess a false flag oh oh i see what you're saying yeah the feds are going to come out pretending to be trump supporters or something and then get rowdy. It's not just that. They're going to lure groups who aren't part of the Fed to participate, but then maybe there's
Starting point is 00:30:33 the hanging threat that the Feds are going to incite violence and then blame it on the ordinary people they lured there. Exactly. That's what happened on January 6th, right? Well, we don unverified, but we don't know that. There's suppositions, like with Ray Epps, that he had
Starting point is 00:30:49 been a plant. I don't even know if that's ever been confirmed. Did he used to work for the FBI or anything? I don't know or care about to speculate on Ray Epps because of what they're trying to do to manipulate that story. My point on this is simple. Let's approach it from hey, there's a guy in camera inciting violence.
Starting point is 00:31:06 You should arrest him. Yeah, yeah. That's the target, not the other people. Instead, what they're doing is they're using the fact that people have claimed conspiracy theory to discredit the entirety of the Ray Epps scam. But Epps was yelling, like, let's go to the Capitol stuff. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's on video.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Let me tell you about this tactic used by leftists for a long time. What they do is they'll get a handful of people. They will organize a peaceful protest so they can get mass. And they'll say, everybody come down and march and raise your fist. They will coordinate different groups with their strategy. They'll say some people's job is to obstruct. So they'll convince people like, hey, stand here. People don't know what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:31:48 When they go for a peaceful protest, they have no idea the plan of the organizers. The pawn has no idea that the knight is about to move next. And so what they'll do is they have aggressors, basically, that will mix in the crowd and incite the violence because they want to do two things. They need
Starting point is 00:32:03 the cover of a mass group to be able to engage in violence and get away the violence because they want to do two things. They need the cover of a mass group to be able to engage in violence and get away. And they also want videos of these regular people being beaten by cops. So they will start the fight. The regular person will get hit. They will then go to that regular person and say, why were the cops hitting you?
Starting point is 00:32:18 What? Oh, can you believe? You got to join us, man. That's how they recruit. That's the plan. That's how the FBI works to perpetuate its own existence. They create the reasons that they supposedly exist. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Look at the Whitmer thing. Yeah. Great example. Yeah. What was it like? They were all informants? Yeah. It was like one guy that wasn't.
Starting point is 00:32:40 The poor guy just got brought in. And that's what they do. They'll target the lonely people that are isolated from community, and they'll lead them to feel like they're part of some movement. And it's all these feds that are inviting them into creating a problem that requires them to be the solution. And there are a lot of people that do this in the corporate world too. I mean, George Soros gets accused of this often, right,
Starting point is 00:33:02 putting money toward destruction so that he can come in and profit off the cleanup. You know, there's a lot there that we've seen this time and time again. Part of the reason I'm so frustrated with the FBI and their dealings is that it's not just what they're doing, like this Trump scenario, like this guy with his phone. It's also what They're ignoring the fact that the current president's son, we have him on video and photo evidence, instances where the guy is dealing in incredibly illegal activity and they're silent. Or Larry Nassar, silent.
Starting point is 00:33:35 What's the Larry Nassar thing? The gymnastics, USA Gymnastics. I don't know about this. Tell me about it. He's abusing the girls? Yeah, and the FBI knew about it. They knew about Epstein. Yeah, they knew about Epstein. I mean, the examples are endless, and you're absolutely right.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Oftentimes they need to boost their budget. They need to create problems so that they can exemplify why they're needed as a solution. Another example of that I think is industrial, agricultural, pharmaceutical, like this thing where they'll feed people bread that's sprayed with glyphosate, the wheat, as a desiccant to dry it out before harvest. It makes people just grotesquely ill. And then they create pills that will treat it. And so they're not only creating the glyphosate or these, I don't know if it's all the same
Starting point is 00:34:15 people, but they're creating the chemicals to put on the food to make the people sick. Then they make the medicines to, it's self-replicating. Then the medicines make people sick. Yeah, a lot of times they do. A lot of times the treatments make people more sick than the diseases themselves. It's a terrible reality of using experimental medicine on a population. It's devastating. Well, a perfect example recently is that I'm not insinuating anything, YouTube,
Starting point is 00:34:41 but Pfizer is upping their intentionality with heart issue medicine so issues like myocarditis pushing prescriptions that solve that issue you make your conclusions as to why but yes it's this exact thing pfizer and these big pharmaceutical companies they're they operate by the same playbook wasn't wasn't there a document recently? I saw some story where they basically said we should reconsider curing diseases. Really? Did you saw that? That sounds like the type of headline you could expect.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Oh, I hope you got that on. Can you Google that? I'm going to look it up. I saw that on Twitter. They were like, we should reconsider. I can't remember where I saw it. What's the word? It may actually be an old story.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Like, reconsider. I remember that. Yeah, it was something about like... Is it a story or just an opinion piece no i think i saw it was a document from i could be wrong that's why i'm saying fact check it because i just saw it on social media it was something like from a drug company and they were like it's not really monetarily wise to cure diseases we just need to like sell those these pills let me look it up i'm seeing fromSci.com we're closer to curing all diseases than we think.
Starting point is 00:35:46 They're like curing blindness. I mean, if we can actually heal the blind and let the blind see again. A lot of people think they have the cure to cancer and are hiding it from everyone. So they have to pay for the treatment. The truth is that cancer comes from so many different
Starting point is 00:36:01 sources. There's not like a single cure for cancer. So I understand the thinking because the cost of fixing cancer is extremely lucrative. But did you find it? I mean, I found a story. Oh, snap. From MedPage Today. What? Curing patients is bad for business.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Well, yes. Apparently, they say, an article by Take Him on CNBC, Goldman Sachs issued a report. So it's not a drug company. That suggested that drug developers might want to think twice about making drugs that were too effective. What do you say? The potential to deliver one-shot cures is one of the most attractive aspects of gene therapy. Genetically engineered cell therapy and gene editing. However, such treatments offer a very different outlook with regard to recurring revenue versus chronic therapies.
Starting point is 00:36:40 While the proposition carries tremendous value for patients and society, it could represent a challenge for genome medicine developers looking for sustained cash flow. Oh, medicine developers looking for cash flow. That's so gross. Isn't the first light bulb ever still on and has been on for like 100 years in like a firehouse in New York or something like that? Wow. I don't know. I've heard about that. The argument, the idea was that they needed planned obsolescence. Otherwise, you'd sell a light bulb and then you'd never sell another one. It was too effective.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Yeah, too effective. Well, yeah, I found the article from CNBC that says Goldman Sachs asks in a biotech research report, is curing patients a sustainable business model? And I guess it kind of makes sense that it's not, which makes us then ask, why? Yeah, 2018. We have it right here, CNBC. Yeah, it's from a few years ago. Just use gene therapy that wears off and you need to boost it. Yeah, we have it right here, CNBC. Yeah, it's from a few years ago. Just use gene therapy that wears off
Starting point is 00:37:25 and you need to boost it. Yeah, you need more boosters. Or, how about a two-stage gene therapy? The first one cures it, the second one starts it back up. Yeah, just a perpetual cycle. Or a subscription service. Subscription!
Starting point is 00:37:38 How about it cures the disease but also gives you a different disease that requires paying a subscription. Like a one-for-one program. Yeah, that's great. Like violence. If violence is the disease, but also gives you a different disease that requires paying a subscription. Like a one-for-one program. Yeah, that's great. So like violence, if violence is the disease, then the military industrial complex is the treatment. It's not a cure. It's a treatment because if they cure the violence, then they're no longer necessary.
Starting point is 00:37:57 And then we won't have any reason to fund a military. But then that's because they're afraid that violence will strike again, that it will never truly be gone. And they're just saying with illness, illness will never truly be gone. So if we stop making medicine, we won't be prepared when a big one comes, when an asteroid or a comet lands that has a bacterium on it that causes some new disease that Pfizer wasn't ready for. I understand that living in fear like that. It comes to a point where you've got to not try and profit off of the pain and suffering of humans. So, you know, I was talking about this earlier. There is
Starting point is 00:38:30 a, and the other day, there's a point in history when you look at major historical moments like Spanish Civil War or the Russian Revolution or Nazi Germany. When people left, they moved to other countries
Starting point is 00:38:45 and survived. And you'd always read and ask them, like, why did your family flee? What made them realize? And, you know, Nazi Germany obviously being the obvious one
Starting point is 00:38:55 because of how bad things got. They say things like the demonization of these groups and we were like, they're targeting us. But then the other question is, why did people stay? And a lot of people stayed
Starting point is 00:39:04 thinking it could never happen, that it wouldn't get worse. And so I was thinking about Kristallnacht, right? You're familiar? The broken glass. Yeah. Tell me an elevator pitch. I'm familiar, but in case people don't know. People went around smashing up Jewish businesses.
Starting point is 00:39:21 It was like in one night in Germany, Nazi Germany. I don't know the full historical details other than the general idea. It was in one night. Yeah. The night of broken glass. Yeah, it was a pattern that went on for weeks, but it was one specific night, Kristallnacht, yeah, night of the broken glass, that was like lived in infamy because it was this horrible night that the country, it was sort of like a Rubicon moment where it's like, you guys
Starting point is 00:39:42 just crossed a major line that's going to be impossible to come back from. And then it just de-escalated into everything that Nazi Germany became. It escalated into it. Yeah, I should say. The country de-escalated. That's a better way to word it. So, you know, I've read about people who said,
Starting point is 00:39:55 like, when that happened, they were like, we have to get out of here. And then there are a lot of people who didn't. And it's like, when something like that happens, why didn't you get out? Yeah. They weren't activated socially, that's for sure. Those people had no idea what was going on.
Starting point is 00:40:07 No, I think it's because we have the gift of hindsight. Yeah. So I'll give you an example. AOC comes out and fabricates a story about January 6th. Someone knocked on her door and said, where is she? Where is she? And she's like, I'm hiding in the bathroom. And I thought, this is it.
Starting point is 00:40:24 I'm going to die or whatever she said i don't know that story happened an hour before anyone had breached the capital a full hour she had no idea however in hindsight she knows most people don't know the details of the day all they know is people stormed the capital so if she tells this story it sounds like this thing happened when we read history and we read about Kristallnacht and things like that we think well how could they not have seen it coming only because we know what did happen
Starting point is 00:40:53 today I don't mean to imply that what's happening now is identical to what's happened in Nazi Germany or anything like that history doesn't repeat it rhymes there are similarities take a look at anything that's happened in the past couple of years and ask yourself why you haven't fled. Because
Starting point is 00:41:10 you don't know what lies ahead. And so for us to look back on history and know what the end result was, we'd say, clearly at that point I'd get out. Would you? Would you really? Any of you? Maybe after, I don't know, billions of dollars in damage when a Marxist political faction ransacked this country
Starting point is 00:41:26 from the biggest cities the smallest town when we have quotes from a guy who said there was fighting in his building and he called the police in new york and they said sir the city is under attack what would you have us do when we saw riots in almost every in almost every major city two billion dollars was the insurance cap on the damage, 30 plus dead. And everyone says, is this right? Maybe it will become something worse. And then I wonder if in 50 years people will look back at the Summer of Love and say, why didn't they get out when that happened? When you had Black Lives Matter, an identitarian Marxist organization, smashing things up, organizing destruction.
Starting point is 00:42:07 They thought everything was fine. Well, I'll tell you this. A lot of people have already fled to Mexico. We read that story. We thought it was funny. Yeah. A lot of people are going to El Salvador. Max Kaiser.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Max Kaiser prominently and Stacey Herbert have gone to El Salvador because they're huge maximals for Bitcoin and they've adopted Bitcoin as a national currency in El Salvador. El Salvador, yeah? Yeah, El Salvador. El Salvador. And, like, Einstein fled the Nazis. Einstein fled in, like, what? Early.
Starting point is 00:42:33 36, 33, or 35. Yeah, way, way early. So that's just a question I have. I mean, so we're now at the point where the Department of Justice, under one political faction, has just raided the home of the frontrunner of the rival political faction. Several members of his administration have been arrested. They have now seized the phone of an active member of Congress.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Like, at what point are you like, hey, we're kind of in the thick of things where usually in history we learn about the people who survived or the ones who fled. I will say, many people don't flee because they're like, this is my country and I will not let it collapse. That's me, man. I can't. You know, we live in California. And so it's California is where everyone else will be in 10 years. I mean, you're from New York. Same deal.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Any of these big blue kind of metropolitan progressive authoritarian strongholds. The California lifestyle at this point is so blatantly not in our favor that it's like if you're going to stay, it's because you have to feel a special sort of conviction to stay. So I don't blame anyone that's left to Texas, that goes to a red state and sets up shop there. Good for you. It makes sense. For us, though, it's like, man, there's something holding me here
Starting point is 00:43:42 that I can't leave. And in the same way in the United States, it's like it's going to get worse before it gets better. This is our here that I can't leave. And in the same way in the United States, it's like it's going to get worse before it gets better. This is our country. I can't leave. No matter where you flee, you run into more problems anywhere you go. Yeah, geez. You see the way they handle people in New Zealand,
Starting point is 00:43:55 the way they handle lockdowns in Australia, kicking people's doors in. Mexico and El Salvador have their own problems that I don't think we want to deal with. You know, when we're talking about all this, Mexico is doing pretty well. I've been thinking a lot about fleeing and like, where would I go? What would I do? But I think what's happening is the United States is freaking awesome.
Starting point is 00:44:12 And the state's control is really an awesome part of why. But people are fleeing, but they're fleeing states. Yes. That's what the – you see the people – they got out early. They got out last year. They got out when COVID locked on. It's a bad sign of people losing their allegiance to their state and their local area, though. I want to point to the other.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Germany, if that's an example, is what? Roughly the size of Texas or comparable? A little smaller. A little smaller than that? I think. We're a big country. When the Summer of Love happened, we did get out. We left the South Jersey suburbs and came to West Virginia, Western Maryland and West Virginia. So I Like right now, I don't have the funds to pack up and move to El Salvador. I have no idea where I would work or what I would do if I were to do that.
Starting point is 00:45:08 And the other reason that people would not leave the U.S. and ostensibly some of their states is that there is nowhere else to go. And I know that like Steve Hilton stays in California because he thinks that maybe he can save it. And he has people who agree with him. I have heard that much of California is not insane, crazy L.A. people. We're not. Right. They're all Orange County.. people. We're not. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:25 They're all Orange County. There are a few of us. Right. There's some actual conservatives over in California because there are a lot of people there. There are a lot of reasons to stay in the U.S. And I feel like this is just something we're going to have to go through. I don't know what else to say. Let me pull up this story from Yahoo News.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Hillary Clinton promotes but her emails merge after FBI search of Trump's Mar-a-Lago. So her fundraiser pitch is, I did something way worse, got away with it, and now you're going to give me money. Oh, my gosh. The day after his house got raided. Literally 12 hours. What has happened?
Starting point is 00:45:56 Drops merch. And she has that, like, Photoshop picture of her looking like a younger picture of her with her huge, all that work done on those cheekbones. Hey, look, look, look. I don't care about the merch stuff. Trump has dropped targeted merch. He's also made fun of Democrats in a similar way.
Starting point is 00:46:13 We really are seeing the left try to learn from how the right did meme warfare with like the dark branded media. They're trying. They're really trying. Did you see this? They made a Nazi meme of Joe Biden and then they unironically posted it. And people were like, what are you doing? Like that was made to make fun of Joe Biden. Why you see this? They made a Nazi meme of Joe Biden, and then they unironically posted it. And people were like, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:46:27 That was made to make fun of Joe Biden. Why are you posting that? Did you have that image available? Nazi meme, Biden. Dark Brandon rises. And then go to images. Wasn't there a thought that this was a... Was it you and I that was talking about this?
Starting point is 00:46:38 Yeah. That this was like a Chinese op type deal? Yeah. I wasn't able to confirm this. I saw something on Twitter. I know everything on Twitter is true. Because I was super curious. Yeah. I really want to look into that. So we have it right here.
Starting point is 00:46:48 This is the eagle. So this is a mockery of The Dark Knight Rises, where there's a bat. This is so cringe. There's skyscrapers, and he's looking down, and there's a bat in the buildings. So they did this eagle, which many people pointed out is very similar to the Nazi eagle. And he looks like
Starting point is 00:47:04 Vladimir Lenin in that picture. Yeah, what's going on? You know, hey, maybe you guys many people pointed out is very similar to the the nazi eagle and he looks like vladimir lenin in that picture yeah what's going on yeah you know hey maybe you guys when people make memes to make fun of joe biden and then you just take them and repost them you should probably look into what you're doing yeah yeah was this supposed to be endearing they're just illiterate to the internet this is like in your face like if it does if history looks back and like this is when the united states went full totalitarian and then you see that image and they're like, oh, they just blatantly told everyone he was
Starting point is 00:47:29 going to do it. Well, I mean, but like Joe Biden doesn't even know this meme exists. You see the video of him trying to shake Chuck Schumer's hand twice? Oh my gosh. That was weird. And the jacket? Just held it there. Well, no. He shakes it. So here's what I have. Chuck Schumer talks, turns around, shakes Biden's hand.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Biden puts his hand down and then looks and then pulls his hand out again and he stares at him and then like puts it to his face. I can't imagine living in the fever dream that Biden experiences on a daily basis. They're like bringing BTS into the White House and he's like, hi, who are you? And they don't speak any English. What's BTS? That Korean pop. Oh, the K-pop band. What does BTS mean?
Starting point is 00:48:07 It's a good question. Bangtan Soyeon-dong? Is that what it means? Does it? I don't know. No one knows. Behind the scenes? I thought it was behind the scenes or something like that.
Starting point is 00:48:15 No idea. Bangtan Boys? You're right, though, on the fundraising piece. Do you remember last year when there was that video that came out attacking DeSantis because they didn't want him to get credit for how awesome Florida is doing? So they basically tried to showcase that Florida is this terrible place full of freedom. And it was like this lovely video of all these people smiling and laughing. And they're like, they don't take mass seriously.
Starting point is 00:48:39 And it's this family walking on the beach. It's like, yeah, you guys don't realize, but you keep shooting yourself in the foot when you try to do stuff like this. Yeah. Yeah. They look so happy. worried about a double standard and an imbalance in the justice system cackling while you raise money off of it is probably not going to help this country no but i you know the funny thing is many of these democrats think donald trump is the one who's committing all the crimes because they don't read the news dude what is up with people are obsessed with the cult like it's but what i mean is the cult worship of the humans like this political i'm all about politics and understanding the way government works and what, how many people you need to hire to be in the Republic and to facilitate the
Starting point is 00:49:29 transfer of power. But like when you get obsessed about the individuals and you're like, well, Joe Biden, if you, some people talk about Joe Biden, then another person's like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:49:36 but Trump, like that has nothing to do with what I'm talking about right now. I don't like let's focus on. And it's like, it's a video game or like a movie. And they're talking about their favorite characters or the villains they hate. and it's like it's a video game or like a movie and they're talking about their favorite characters or the villains they hate like it's so it seems so detached from reality of like you better get enough food for your kids like or for yourself we got to really focus on
Starting point is 00:49:55 making sure we we reach our basic necessities yeah the the people who live in cities for the most part have no idea no when it comes to basic necessities. No. I was arguing with a guy on Twitter once. It was really funny. He was a Yang supporter. And I was a big fan of Yang early on. I think he's done things I don't agree with, but he's all right. He's, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Oh, I love him. But he was talking about UBI, and I was like, I agree with, like, he's created this huge, extensive policy list. He's really thought about it. I respect that. But UBI makes no sense. I asked some guy. We were arguing. And I can't remember exactly what the context was, why we brought it up.
Starting point is 00:50:32 But I mentioned eventually there's not going to be food in supermarkets. Or eventually people won't be able to source things like milk if there's no one who's doing base level jobs or we have to create a surf class. And he's like, what do you mean? The milk's at the store. And then I was like, yeah, but the milk won't come from the production to the store so people can't get it.
Starting point is 00:50:52 And he's like, what are you talking about? People can just go to the store to get milk. And then I was like, the store won't have milk when the people that bottle it don't sell it to them. And he's like, I don't know what you're trying to say.
Starting point is 00:51:03 And I'm like, whoa. Oh my gosh. Did you guys see the video last week of the girl that's the farmer who was showcasing the bale of hay in her trunk did you guys know and she was talking about how much the price has skyrocketed of her hay and she has to get to feed her cattle that then produce the milk and the meat and so she talks about how her hay is like quadrupled in the last 12 months and her warning to everyone is this will be passed on to you this fall. Of course.
Starting point is 00:51:26 If you think that this is isolated, wait until it hits the shopping centers and you see your price of beef and of milk skyrocket because to feed these animals is becoming so incredibly expensive. Even chickens. Yeah, even chickens. But here's the other thing people need to understand, too. We give these animals corn.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Now, there are a lot of farms. You come out here and we see the cows eating grass all day. You got the chickens. They're eating feed. They're eating layer. But they're eating bugs. But in a lot of places, it's just corn. The factory farmed salmon.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Corn. Yeah, subsidized. Yeah. Really gross. I need to reclaim my name's heritage. I don't know if this is true, but I heard that tilapia are fed in farms uh underneath these cages um or like wire platforms that chickens are above them and like crap into crap into the water and then the tilapia eat it and that's like how they feed the tilapia i don't think it's possible
Starting point is 00:52:20 that goes into grocery stores i hope not i don't think it's possible. That goes into grocery stores. I hope not. I don't think that's possible because the chickens have one hole, a cloaca. Yeah. And there's like a hen has three things. They have like where the egg comes from and they have like the poop and the peat and it mixes together. Yeah. So you've got urea and other stuff there. So it would poison the water is the reason they couldn't do it. Yeah, the water would just become toxic.
Starting point is 00:52:39 I hope it's not true. I don't want it to be true. I remember working in the restaurant industry for like 15 years, you know, up until about five or six years ago. And they would talk a lot about farmed tilapia. It was way nasty. It was like one of the nastiest fish you could ever order from a restaurant is farm. You want wild tilapia if you're ever going to get tilapia. I don't know why, though.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Maybe it has something to do with that. Maybe not. You know what I'd prefer to believe? You know, people who believe in these big conspiracies,acies you know like i don't think there's a grand global cabal i think there are powerful interests vying for power and colluding behind the scenes so the epstein stuff like well i mean maxwell was convicted like we know they were doing this stuff and we know they were they were connected with powerful individuals maybe it was blackmail or whatever but they clearly didn't have full control
Starting point is 00:53:25 because Epstein is no longer alive and Maxwell is locked up. So it wasn't, you know, I don't think that there's one, like, Illuminati or something like that. I just think powerful and just do this stuff. I'd prefer to believe that aliens controlled everything. If I'm going to believe something, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:41 as grandiose, I'm going to shoot for the stars. They do. Literally. And assume it's aliens. Some people call them God. Other people call them aliens. Some people call them interdimensional beings. So when you mentioned JFK saying there's a greater force at play,
Starting point is 00:53:54 we're all imagining there's some military industrial complex, but it's actually a fifth dimensional DMT elf or something. You know, a demon from beyond the veil. Joe Rogan would fall out of his chair. It's more fun to believe in in that stuff yeah more fun yeah well definitely true spirit war is no joke we're gonna say well no i was just i was gonna say absolutely i'm i'm a big believer
Starting point is 00:54:16 you know i'm a person of faith i believe that a lot of this is spiritual warfare and it's interesting to see the people who have realized that over the past few years i heard tucker carlson speak of all people. And he was speaking actually at a church that I go to in San Diego. And this guy's on stage, Tucker Carlson, largest talk show. This was like three months ago. Largest talk show host in the world. And this guy looks at this audience and says, I am thinking I'm insane in real time for even saying this.
Starting point is 00:54:40 Because I, two years ago, never would have believed myself if I said what I'm about to say. Everything that we're seeing is that there's something deeper going on there's something spiritual i'm not sure what it is but there's some deeper war at play here because this doesn't make sense anymore like all the basic fabrics of a fabric of humanity is being ripped up things related to our identity who are men who are women like basic things that we just accepted as truth for thousands of years now people are attacking and so he basically said i have come to believe that this is far greater than politics this is way deeper and so i do think there's like a cultural shift happening when we're all realizing that this goes a lot deeper than just party politics it's not like a gop versus dem thing there's a much deeper thing going on
Starting point is 00:55:18 even in the political world there's a uniparty we clearly understand that now and that uniparty often acts in the um antithesis of the interests of average americans and you look at these things and you're like there's something deeper happening here that's controlling you because this isn't this is so different than anything we've ever seen before well as a christian i'm sure you believe that the spiritual warfare aspect of it isn't new and that's always been the case throughout human history but why do you think it's it seems to be getting more intense more noticeable in our daily lives that's i think that's it it's that it's more blatant it's more out in the open and there was a time like an
Starting point is 00:55:56 invitation for us to somehow participate uh my personal belief is yes my personal belief is that anytime that you're confronted with evil it's your duty to stand against it. Right. So is it revelation? Yep. Revelation. Revelation. Yeah, revelation.
Starting point is 00:56:11 End of days. Yep. Is that what's going on? A lot of people have different views in terms of where we're at in history. I have no idea, but I will say that there is a very clear message communicated through the scriptures that as time goes on, things will become more blatant. In fact, there's a scripture that talks about how in the last days, everything's going to be uprooted, related to identity. People will exchange truth for lies,
Starting point is 00:56:31 and they'll listen to things that will make their ears tickle and deny reality. And so it's like, who knows? But that seems like a lot of... But also it will come in like a thief in the night. Therefore... Yeah, you really can't know the day or the hour. Yeah. Both of you are Christian.
Starting point is 00:56:45 So my question, I suppose, is, is it preferable that we are in the end of days and something is culminating as to your faith? Or would it be preferable that life was just simple and normal and you were farming corn with a smile on your face? Great question. I think you can have both. Life is simple and you can have normalcy, but also not be excited for the end times, but have hope, you know, and not be so prideful as to think you know what the timing is. Because I think about this in a more secular context, but also a religious context. And I'm imagining, are there people who are excited for revelation, for the end of days, for the second coming, for the rapture or whatever might be happening? And if you separate the faith element
Starting point is 00:57:38 from that, are there people who think in reality, we could choose to be happy living living on a farm and have pigs and chickens and food but many of these people would prefer the chaos and the violence because they believe at the end of that violence is the utopia yeah the good news there are a lot of people who i think at least who want to make things worse as quickly and as intensely as possible so that it culminates in something and i don't know what that will be accelerationism yeah but i think you know the bible's pretty clear about this like there's the apostle paul that says that we should pray for peaceful and quiet lives and yet his also message and it's not a contradictory one but his tethered messages and also prepare for what's coming yes so there's this tethered reality of like pray for peace and quiet and do whatever you can to make that happen also
Starting point is 00:58:30 you need to be prepared yes because there will be a reality the world is delving into chaos and you want to be ready when that comes and so i think it's that dichotomy a very literal example of that is that every 20 30 40 000 years we get hit by comets and everything gets wiped to zero and like that's been happening over the last hundreds of thousands of years in the geological records of cometary impact. So yeah, you want to live in peace and love your neighbor. What is the last record of that happening? Well, I know 12,800 years ago at the end of the Younger Dryas, a comet shattered over
Starting point is 00:58:57 North America and peppered the glacial continent, melted all the ice, and just caused a global flood, wiped out all the megafauna in North America, flattened the United States, which is why we have these planes. Maybe that's the Great Flood. Then, no, it was a few thousand years later, there was another flood, which they think was Noah's Flood, like 6,000 years ago. That mythology goes across cultures. Every culture has a flood, right?
Starting point is 00:59:20 Or something like that. We have a great flood story. Ooh, jeez. But you are spot on. There are these things that'll come that there's no ability to control and no matter how powerful the cabal or multiple cabals are like even they will be taken off guard yeah i think when you were asking that question earlier about why does it seem like it's all coming to a head right now the spiritual war i find that it's always is but now because of the introduction of psychedelics
Starting point is 00:59:42 into the mainstream and the proliferation of the knowledge through the Internet, people are sensing it. I can feel it. I was like a logic. If I can't see it and prove it, I don't believe it. That was me until I was 23 years old. Now, I feel energy. I see patterns because of THC and the marijuana, psilocybin. Just when you start to see the difference between life and non-life very starkly, and you start to practice Reiki and things like that, or Reiki, I'm not sure how to pronounce it.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Is that a good thing? I think it's necessary to understand what's happening. That may be true, Ian. But I believe I have a story which shows us a sign. It is the end of times. It is indeed, yes. From the AP. Ex-Ohio court mediator arrested.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Allegedly sent feces to GOP. Please. Okay, please explain. Please don't do this. Don't. Richard Steinle, a 77-year-old from Mogador, Ohio, former Portage County Common Police Court mediator, charged with sending injurious articles as non-mailable, violating federal law that prohibits mailing certain things,
Starting point is 01:00:47 including hazardous materials, according to court records. It carries a maximum prison sentence of one year and a $100,000 fine. People have lost their minds. That's disgusting. Now, I do think stuff like this
Starting point is 01:00:58 probably happened all the time with people doing weird stuff. There was also this video of some woman mailing her period, I guess, to the Supreme Court. Right, yeah, her period, I guess, to like the Supreme court. Yeah. Now here's the funny thing. She may have staged it because she films a video and then it's like,
Starting point is 01:01:11 it jump cuts around and she may be thinking like, I want to actually do it. That's gross. But by making that video, which doesn't understand is that you'll still get charged. Yeah. There were people when they were a bio weapon. Well,
Starting point is 01:01:21 it isn't, it doesn't matter if you mailed it. If you show yourself doing something that implies you did they have to go and check every mailbox and they have to like
Starting point is 01:01:31 so search for it there was that story of the woman who licked the ice cream in the store and put it back and everyone's like but she bought it
Starting point is 01:01:39 right after and it's like it doesn't matter did she though no one knows that they saw a video of her licking it and putting it back
Starting point is 01:01:43 and now they have to come and throw all of the ice cream away because it's contaminated so this guy matter no one knows that they saw a video overlooking it putting it back and now they have to come and throw all of the ice cream away because it's contaminated so this guy we're going to have to throw away
Starting point is 01:01:49 the entire GOP they've all been contaminated it's a white pill you know what I've heard about poop it's not the poop that's bad for you
Starting point is 01:01:58 it's the stuff that grows on the poop oh gosh I'm not sure it all feels bad putrefactive bacteria I don't want any of it thrown at me
Starting point is 01:02:04 putrescine and cadaverine interesting molecules you know what is sad though what did they say Gosh. I'm not sure. It's bacteria. It all feels bad for me. Putrefactive bacteria. I don't want any of it thrown at me. Putrescine and cadaverine. Yeah. Interesting molecules. You know what is sad, though? What did they say the fine is in here? 100,000? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:12 What's sad is, like, knowing today's modern left, that will be covered in a GoFundMe. Oh, I'm sure. Okay. Speaking of feces, I have received confirmation of the tilapia. It says, tilapia in the wild feed on algae, but on farms, they're reared on corn or soybean meal. However,
Starting point is 01:02:29 when no other feed is provided, they will eat poop. There have been instances where fish farms in Asia were found to be feeding poultry, sheep, or hog manure to tilapia. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:02:41 Wow. Cool. That apparently is true. What is this? Disgusting. McGill University, tilapia and the, no. Wow. Cool. That apparently is true. What is this? That's disgusting. McGill University Tilapia and the Poop Connection? Great. Is that what you were reading? Yeah. That's so disgusting.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Unscriptulous operations, apparently. Farms that run on corn, however the no feed is provided, they will eat poop. There have been instances where fish farms in Asia were found to be feeding poultry, sheep, or hog manure to tilapia. What? Do you guys know about gutter oil?
Starting point is 01:03:10 No. Wait, why is this vaguely familiar? I think it was like a viral video a long time ago. In China, they scoop out sewage and they filter the oils out and then cook with it on the street no yeah but because
Starting point is 01:03:28 they're cooking it does that mean it's not like infectious anymore well infectious isn't isn't the issue the issue is like are you eating food and like is the oil mineral oil or like what oil is it yeah they scoop things out of like what is it what is it yeah like not all oil is food the oil that people ate before maybe maybe whether spiritual or not this is like a sign of the end of days when we're at the point where we're recycling manure from animals to feed fish because we need food to sell maybe it's like you know rather than to feed soil we've gone too far it's like, you know, rather than to feed soil, we've gone too far. It's time to turn back. Go back to the good corn harvesting. Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Come on, Seiferts. Let's go. It's our time to shine. But what's interesting is that the pro on this, the beautiful nature of the times that we're living in is that people are waking up and in turn pursuing a lot of things that help them prepare for whatever days that we're in, also help them fight back, those that really feel convicted to stand up, like they have more resources than ever. The good news is that we're in a time where,
Starting point is 01:04:36 I'll give a perfectly relevant example to what we're doing. On our platform on PublicSquare, publicsq.com, if you want to check it out, there's a group called FrontYard Farms. There's like a community group where all these people, and it's one of our most popular groups on the app right now, because it's all these users that are coming in together that want to learn how to grow their own food. And it's grown by the thousands in the past few weeks. And that's really neat, because what it shows to me is like, okay, there's really an ownership that individuals are taking over their own existence. They are trying to prepare themselves for whatever is coming.
Starting point is 01:05:04 And worst case scenario, they'll need it. They'll need to learn how to be completely self-sustaining because the world will go so crazy. In the United States, the American experiment as we know it today does not exist in 20 years like what we're seeing. The best case scenario is now you know how to grow tomatoes in your backyard.
Starting point is 01:05:20 And good for you. You took ownership of your own destiny and you actually provided for your family. That's amazing. And when you pull a tomato off the vine and bite into it. Nothing better. Oh, cherry tomatoes. We had cherry tomatoes growing every morning. I'd go out. I'd get fresh eggs from the chickens.
Starting point is 01:05:31 Cherry tomatoes and peppers. And that was my breakfast. Come on. But we learned the hard way. We planted all of our tomatoes at once. Too many tomatoes. We don't do. Because then all of a sudden one day we had like 50 tomatoes and we couldn't eat them.
Starting point is 01:05:44 You're supposed to plant one, wait a week, plant one, wait a week. Or can them. Or can them. I don't think we're in the end days. That phrase comes up sometimes. But for every one of us, these are the final days because this is our life. Totally. There will always be an end to our life.
Starting point is 01:05:58 So every individual can talk about it as if this is the end because you only have this life. But we mean kind of like the end of this era. Yeah. Because I actually don't think we're in the end of time either. My own personal views. I think we're at the end of an era that the world has looked a certain way and it's about to change. The end of the steam engine, industrial revolution.
Starting point is 01:06:15 I did hear this. It may not be true, but this is the dawning of the age of Aquarius. Oh, yeah. 2230, I think, is when that begins. The dawning of the age of Aquarius. Interesting. Interesting. Let the sun shine in, you know? begins. The dawning of the age of Aquarius. Interesting. Let the sun shine in. We're going to be tapping the vacuum for energy.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Dude, do you guys know seed bombing? You ever heard of seed bombing? No. They retrofit C-60 bomber planes, and they pack them with seeds, like tree saplings, and they fly over, like, deforested areas and just drop hundreds, millions of seeds. They don't plant nearly as well as doing them by hand, but they can drop
Starting point is 01:06:46 magnitudes more of them. And they said they can plant like a billion trees per day. Wow. Levels of terraforming. It's going to be funny when in like 30 years they're like, we've got to cut trees down. There's just too many. There's no more carbon dioxide. We're competing with us for the carbon. We need the carbon. Dude, we're going to be able to mine
Starting point is 01:07:02 and burn carbon and then grow trees. Remember when they said to not use paper bags because then grow trees. We're going to do it on Mars. Remember when they said to not use paper bags because it was bad for the forest and to use plastic? When I was a kid, that was the big thing. They were like, stop using paper bags. They're tearing the forest down. Use plastic. Then they were like, stop using the plastic bags. Start using the paper bags.
Starting point is 01:07:20 They're getting pollution everywhere. It's like for every problem you think you're solving, you're a new one well that's a great point because san diego actually was a national case study which is where i live san diego um a few years ago they made plastic bags illegal formally at the city level in san diego and what ended up happening is that the trash that homeless people would leave on the streets in san diego got exponentially worse and not just trash but also like their own human fecal matter. And we tried to figure out why, like why on earth is the trash just so exponentially greater than it was even six to nine months ago.
Starting point is 01:07:53 And they tied it back to that policy. What used to happen is that homeless people would put their trash and their feces in these plastic bags and would throw it away. But now you have the scenario where you took away their access to plastic bags. And so the alternative is that we have trash and feces flooding the streets. And so you don't realize with foresight how these decisions are going to impact you 10 years down the road. Solar panels is another perfect example. You guys have Michael Schellenberger on, huge fan of Michael. Read Apocalypse Never if you never have, fantastic book. But Michael talks about this all the time. When they go and recycle these solar panels, they go and put them in impoverished communities in Africa and the land, and it pollutes water supplies.
Starting point is 01:08:29 We don't think about how the windmills will affect eagle populations. So you think you're helping something, and in turn, you're actually causing a really detrimental effect. Yeah, I was telling you before, I've been working with this company that pulls carbon dioxide out of the air and then converts it into graphene. And the problem that can come out of that is that we start pulling too much carbon out of the air and then we start killing off all the plant life. But thank God I thought of that now. Hopefully, you know, we'll be able to mediate and make sure that that isn't a problem that is created from the mining. I think it was funny. We mentioned the other day when the wind turbine started leaking oil
Starting point is 01:09:05 and then everyone was like huh? what do you mean? it's like they use oil I thought they don't do that and not just to maintain them but to produce them in the first place this is the challenge with I don't know how you solve
Starting point is 01:09:21 our political issues we have a great government I mean not literally today. I mean, a system of government was devised by the founding fathers, which was quite brilliant, but has devolved into some chaotic nightmare. And what happens is you get a politician who's like, doing stuff is hard. Saying things is easy. That's right. And so they're like, we got to have green. You know, green is better than brown or gray or whatever the cities are supposed to look like.
Starting point is 01:09:46 They want the green initiatives, not the machine initiatives. And then what ends up happening is they say, we're going to build wind turbines. And everyone says, that sounds good. And then it costs more to do. The return is insufficient. And then people think they're doing better, but they're just spending money. Cars is a good example. One theory going around right now is that the big push for electric
Starting point is 01:10:06 vehicles is simply because they're trying to save the auto industry. A huge portion of the U.S. economy is based on cars. People don't buy cars anymore. There's too many. There's so many cars, and they're getting better and better, and they last longer, and people drive less. What do you do? Electric vehicles. Now we're going to get rid of all the gas ones and go all electric.
Starting point is 01:10:23 That's convenient because it helps keep the gas for machinery and things like that, more industrial use cases. But I think it's likely a big component is just make electric cars because now everybody's buying up all the electric cars and they're hard to come by and there's huge demand. Economics. Not environmentalism. So maybe at the end of days? Maybe. Maybe. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:10:48 Well, I was just going to say one more thing on that. I think part of you asked a question in that, and the question was how do we fix the system when the system is so broken in what seems like an irreparably, almost like you just can't even, there's no point in even trying. And my big message to people all the time is go local first. Start at the local level. Like, I can't change my country until I change my state.
Starting point is 01:11:09 I can't change my state until I change my county. I can't change my county until I change my city. It all starts in my backyard. Like, if we can actually stand up for the needs of a local community and get that down and get that on lock, okay, then we can start to focus on our state. That's like what Public Square is, the app that you built. Yes, the whole goal.
Starting point is 01:11:25 What is it? It's like Craigslist, but more vetted? Yeah, so it's essentially we started a platform to help connect freedom-loving Americans with the community and companies that share their values. So we've been really disheartened by woke corporatism. A big part of our system being broken is that mega corporations have gone kind of into the progressive authoritarian world and partner with big government in this effort to kind of stamp out the small business world and also the values that still tens of millions of americans hold dear like
Starting point is 01:11:55 individual liberties freedom prosperity and this has been evolving over the course of the last few years and then covet blew it up because you had businesses all of a sudden literally bar you from employment or even patronizing their place of business unless you agreed with their set of values related to certain medical choices. And so we started this app that basically helps people take local communities back through the power of localized commerce. And so it's a social marketplace where users can connect for free with all the businesses that have agreed to a set of values to basically say we're going to stand for the rights and principles that have made our country special in the first place,
Starting point is 01:12:27 then they get discounts for going there in a lot of these businesses. So you mentioned the seven principles. You want to explain what those are? Those sounded great. Yeah. So when a business comes on, it's free for the business to join. Right now we've got about 100 new businesses that are joining every single day. And they're loving the experience because it's a great advertising source for them for free.
Starting point is 01:12:42 So we don't charge businesses. We don't charge users. We make our money through advertising that we don't have to sell user data for, which is a big point. In fact, if you go to our homepage, you'll see a transparency page at the bottom of this. So if you scroll all the way down,
Starting point is 01:12:54 you'll see a little transparency link at the bottom. This actually has our core values, and then it also, if you scroll down even farther, has the kind of tenets of our platform that you know that you can trust as a user and as a business but when a business signs up they agree with seven values that are essentially at a high level we believe the constitution is worth protecting we believe in the rights of every individual in the public square especially related to health things so no mask or vaccine mandates if a business is on this app it means that they will respect your personal choices in
Starting point is 01:13:21 that world these businesses don't donate to any intersectional politics, meaning they're not going to. Yelp has a big problem. Yelp last year came out and gave free advertising to black-owned businesses at the expense of everyone else. Isn't that illegal? It's 1964 violation of the Civil Rights Act. Would that be Title VII, I believe?
Starting point is 01:13:40 Racial discrimination. I'm not sure yet. Yeah, especially as it relates to even employment. I mean, that's happening in a big way right now. So a business that's on the platform is not going to identify themselves by their skin color.
Starting point is 01:13:50 They're going to identify themselves by the quality of the products that they produce for their consumers. Bringing this back to supporting the free market of small businesses
Starting point is 01:13:58 to be able to operate with as little government intervention as possible, which is big in a state like California where it's impossible to start a small business. People need to share this.
Starting point is 01:14:06 PublicSQ.com, because we often talk about don't give your money to people who hate you. Jeremy's Razor said that funny line, stop giving money to people that hate you, give it to me instead. Transparent. But how do you find more
Starting point is 01:14:22 people like Jeremy Boring or The Daily Wire? Like this. So if you live in an era and you're like, I don't know what to do, well, here's one way to look up. And if at the end of the day you are avoiding woke businesses and only going to people who share your values, then you are shifting a massive portion of the economy and power
Starting point is 01:14:41 into better values. You're spot on. And this shirt is a great example. I'm wearing a shirt called Rowan, forrowan.com. It's amazing. They didn't pay me to say this. They're not even a paid advertiser. But forrowan.com.
Starting point is 01:14:53 They're on the app with a free profile. This shirt, they source their products sustainably. They're an amazing company run by a guy that holds these values to his core convictions. It's his worldview to a t one percent of all the proceeds that they make off of their clothing go to fatherhood so there's this national fatherhood initiative that helps to provide father figures for communities where kids didn't have them it's like these are the companies that i want to support with my dollars not things that are donating to blm with their corporate profits and what's neat is that, you know,
Starting point is 01:15:25 we have 15,000 businesses on the platform with the largest network of these patriotic businesses in the country. And the largest industries are restaurants, retail, clothing and jewelry. It's small businesses that make our country special. Because not only is there like a, yeah, let's be anti-woke,
Starting point is 01:15:39 but there's also like a, let's just support small businesses in general because they've been so hosed by what's happened over the past few years. The fact that Amazon gained in value over the last two years while small businesses are now in a situation where 70% of them in the United States may not be able to stay open after this fall because of how hard they've been hit. Like that to me is one of the greatest crimes against humanity I've ever witnessed. And so we're trying to support not only the businesses that share our core convictions so that we're not funding companies that hate us. We're also trying to help just small business in general because there's a need for it now today more than ever.
Starting point is 01:16:10 What about a company that's in a jurisdiction that mandates things? These businesses stand against it. In fact, we've paid the legal fees of businesses. So they'll reject unconstitutional. You're from Chicago originally? Yeah. Nini's Deli. Great deli.
Starting point is 01:16:24 Highly recommend if you're in the Chicago area. They're one of our promoted partners. They're amazing on the app. And they stood against the mandates in Chicago, which was nearly impossible. They refused. They said the rights of our consumers are too important. We're not going to infringe upon them. And they got fined.
Starting point is 01:16:37 But we put together a group that went and paid off their legal funds and said, keep fighting the fight. Don't back down. You mentioned that you want to open source the code at some point. What's your timetable for that? Great question. The desire would be in the next 12 months, but it's really hit or miss. It relies upon a few features getting done and us getting more algorithmic-based where there's anything that you'd want to be able to use in different environments.
Starting point is 01:16:59 So that's a great question. I could see an Airbnb, all the people that are Airbnb-ing their houses, also using an app like this, but not your app because it would set up – it would create new – maybe new liabilities for you if you get into those markets. But that if someone else spun up like a public square V2 or like whatever you want to call it with that code and then you'd have like a – do you have rentals? Like Airbnb stuff on there? Yeah, we have housing rentals. So a lot of people have said, hey, I wasn't a huge fan of how Airbnb came out and contributed dollars to employees getting abortions across state lines, because that was a big initiative
Starting point is 01:17:36 that Airbnb pulled about two weeks ago. And so we had a lot of rentals on the app that said, hey, we're here. Don't forget about us. We're not with Airbnb. Come join us and we'll gladly rent your house. So there's absolutely, there's an incredible market for also like local bartering. So people that have just a single product
Starting point is 01:17:51 that they're trying to sell at a local region, that's great for them too. If you're in an area that's super rural and there's not a ton of traffic, we just launched this nationwide six weeks ago. So we're enjoying it and diving right in. But it's been amazing, the response thus far. One of the greatest challenges is how do you make this critical mass enough for people in hyper-local communities that are way out in the middle of nowhere?
Starting point is 01:18:14 Part of the way that we do that is also offering an online marketplace. You can also shop your values in the online setting and can spend money with the businesses there that are agreeing with these seven values. But they'll serve you wherever you're at in the country. But you're right. In terms of how this can have cross-functional applicability into other environments, the sky's the limit. Is it the kind of thing where I can order food from the restaurant through your app? Not yet.
Starting point is 01:18:35 You'll be able to. That's awesome. Essentially, it's a directory at the moment with a social component, but it will absolutely. I mean, you should see where we're going. This fall, we're starting to get more into e-commerce. You can actually purchase right there and have it shipped to your house from within the app itself right now we essentially act as a directory to get you to the businesses
Starting point is 01:18:51 where then you conduct and your shopping experience and a lot of these companies will give you a discount code for shopping there that's the neat thing too is that me as a free user i get a free cup of coffee every week from a public square coffee shop so it's really neat i just i just signed up and i'm looking at the local area and there's a ton of stuff. There's a barbecue place in, well, I won't say the city, but there's a barbecue place near here run by great people. I highly recommend it.
Starting point is 01:19:13 Check it out. Do you have the name of it? I'll say after the show. I don't know if you guys are sensitive about where you're at. It's very close. There's a lot of businesses in here. Really? In the local? That's great. Check local. That's great.
Starting point is 01:19:25 Check online. But that's great news because we're in a pretty rural area. That's good news. So when I look on the map and it shows all the little squares, the pins? All those businesses have agreed with us. That's amazing. They've come through. Is there ride sharing?
Starting point is 01:19:38 Not yet, but that's something we're super excited about. That's hot. Yeah, we can't wait to it. Because it's super easy to do. The technology's there. Yeah, ride sharing's big. Yeah, we can't wait to it. Because it's super easy to do. The technology's there. Yeah, ride-sharing's big. Bartering's huge for us. A lot of these, like moving into the Craigslist,
Starting point is 01:19:50 the Angie's World, or Angie's List market becomes more of a reality in the near future. We're excited about what's coming. What's Angie's List? T-Dog's Barbecue. Yes. In Charlestown. Oh, is that the place you were talking about?
Starting point is 01:20:01 Yes. Yeah, they're on there. Yeah, there's another cafe that's there I went to today. Pretty cool. That's awesome. Everyone, you've got to understand, this is MAGA country. Yeah, true, too. It's a good point. It's true.
Starting point is 01:20:10 Jesse Smollett would agree. But you guys would be amazed. No, no, no, Chicago is MAGA country. I mean, the reality is. I see the job board. Do you want this to compete with LinkedIn or something like that? Great question. Yeah, so that came about really as sort of a fluke.
Starting point is 01:20:23 We had a lot of businesses during around the time that the vaccine mandates were coming out. We had a lot of businesses like, hey, I'm hiring and I won't infringe upon people's rights. Can you just put that somewhere? And we've had a lot of people get hired through it. And we've got an amazing partner in the job board space called Red Balloon that's helping do kind of what we're doing, but in the jobs market more exclusively. That's really exciting. Andrew, their CEO, is a good friend of mine, and so we're partnering together on a lot of our technology. So two things here. First of all, remember, I tried to download your app earlier
Starting point is 01:20:51 before it was rolled out. I was very disappointed that it was available everywhere. I'm very glad it's available now. The other thing is that Red Balloon I looked at, and they appeared to be defunct, which was very disheartening. So do you know if they're expanding as well? They are definitely expanding. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 01:21:05 And then what is the biggest roadblock you foresee for your company? It's a great question. The biggest roadblock is just, to be honest, we've got a lean budget and a lot of interest, which is great news. It's great that we're the largest entity in this space, and praise God, we've had a lot of success thus far, and that's solely because these businesses have taken a stand, we're grateful for it um but like that also creates a lot of challenges because now we're building the plane in flight and so anytime you're building
Starting point is 01:21:32 the plane in flight there are just challenges with the things staying together and holding fast but if you go to like a city like chicago you'll be amazed at the amount of businesses we have a thousand businesses in chicago like tim if you're up there and you search that current location bar, X out there, go back. Okay, hit the current location bar. See the current location right above you? The little red bar. I'm not going to press that.
Starting point is 01:21:55 Oh, okay. Oh, no, no, no. That won't show your current location. It's going to be a search bar. See, this is one of the things we're changing. Oh, okay, yeah. If you go to that current location bar and you search, you don't have to do it now,
Starting point is 01:22:07 but if you search Chicago there instead of your current location, I just want to show you an example of a largely blue city that has just blown up. Chicago, Atlanta, Phoenix, San Francisco has done pretty well. New York City is awesome. This is so great. Yeah, if you scroll over to Chicago. Oh, hey, Detroit.
Starting point is 01:22:22 What's up? Hey, yeah. If you scroll over to Chicago and then you hit search this area just so you can see what a city looks like when it really blows up. I'm going to go check out my neighborhood. I love Chicago. Let's see how we're looking. Scroll up. Okay.
Starting point is 01:22:35 Now hit search this area. Let's see. There you go. That's great. Oh my gosh. Look at that. And these are just local ones. So these don't count all the online that service this area. This is so cool. Yeah, it's really neat. Wow. It seems like a great way to help people feel like they're not alone.
Starting point is 01:22:49 That's the whole goal. Are you looking for investment at this stage? So we've taken just angel investment. We're staying away from all venture stuff. Just it robs you of a lot. This is amazing. Thanks, dude. So I'm in my old neighborhood.
Starting point is 01:23:02 Where are you at? Oh, you're right by Midway. And so the fact that you can find businesses that share your values in a place as blue and insane as the South Side of Chicago is amazing. It really indicates that the blue and red thing is kind of a visage. It is. People are people. Well, I mean, bro, I'm going to use this and go to these businesses. You should, bro.
Starting point is 01:23:23 100%. I don't want to give money to people who hate me. Amen. That's why we exist. And the deeper emotional connection is I feel not alone. It'll almost make me tear up when I talk about it. We had a lady reach out. We'd only been launched a month.
Starting point is 01:23:36 And she said, I feel we soft launched in San Diego. And she reached out and she said, I feel like I have 6,000 new best friends in my neighborhood. That's so sweet. That was really, really cool because it's amazing to be able to shop your values, stop spending money from companies that hate you, go for all of your life's purchases and feel good about your purchases. It's a whole other thing when you can feel like I'm not alone anymore. That's awesome.
Starting point is 01:23:57 When I look at an area in the South Burbs of Chicago and you see a cluster, you know these people are all friends. They told each other like that on this thing. each other like, they're probably getting customers. And part of the way we grow is through an ambassador program. So like we have an amazing Chicago ambassador. And so the Chicago ambassador goes out and refers all these businesses to the platform, recommends them to the platform.
Starting point is 01:24:16 It's really neat. And so that's, that's part of the way we grow. It's very grassroots. We have a team of activists around the country, literally a parallel economy. That's the whole goal. How do you vet the companies?
Starting point is 01:24:25 If someone did do VAX mandates, how would you vet that? So we've had two instances since we launched at all, even including our soft launch last October. We had two instances where a user reached out and was like, hey, I think this business may have been with you at a time, but no longer is.
Starting point is 01:24:41 They just let us know, and we kept moving on. So we pulled them off, and off we go. Yeah, we're committed to the rights of our consumers though and so if if a business is on there and they got to be with us and it's not it's not a tribalistic thing it's just that there's there's a constitution in place for a reason we want these businesses to respect that and um and consumers deserve to know that i'm not going to go i remember how embarrassing it was like covid i walked into a coffee shop and got told to leave right away because I wasn't wearing a mask. Like that's embarrassing. There are a lot of people in there. The last thing we'd ever want to have happen is a consumer feels that way. And so, um, that's why we really do hold fast to these values.
Starting point is 01:25:15 So how do you kind of, how do you kind of not enforce, but encourage people to adhere to these rules? Cause you're right. These are great principles, but how do you make sure that they're following through even like one year, two years, five years later? For sure. Great question. We ask for consumer feedback on every interaction. That's a really helpful way. So if a user shops somewhere, we ask them to let us know how their experience was. And again, 99.9999% of those interactions are incredibly positive. We learn new stories through it. That's so great. But it's everything too. It's random industries. Like, we had an office supplier from Alabama join last week.
Starting point is 01:25:52 He heard me on this TV show, and he said, hey, I just want to let you know, he called me, because I hadn't talked to him in eight years, but I know this guy personally. He didn't know what I was doing now. He calls me and said, I just want to let you know, within 24 hours of being on the platform, I had an office in Ohio call me for supplies from Alabama, and they're my new client.
Starting point is 01:26:05 Oh, my gosh. And they're one of our largest clients. So it's really neat to see, like, even the way businesses are now supporting businesses, and that's cool. Like, the B2B side of this is limitless, too. So we're excited to get into that a little bit more. You said earlier you had some ad revenue
Starting point is 01:26:18 is how the company makes money right now, but you don't track any data? Yeah, we don't sell any user data, and any data we track is purely analytical, and it's not based to a user. So it's basically, we can tell a business, you got 8,000 impressions this month, but we can't tell you demographics, who did it,
Starting point is 01:26:34 the gender, any of that. We don't even ask users that. I guess it wouldn't be untargeted ads. The ads are targeted at people that like the business of... They're targeted to the entire platform. Like, we don't have any ability to target other than your region. So we can tell you Chicago, you get an ad that runs in Chicago,
Starting point is 01:26:49 but we can't tell you to what demographics or what... But if someone browses a lot of restaurants, do they get restaurant ads? No, not yet, no. And even when that comes in, it'll be user preference driven. It won't be a hidden algorithm. So what'll happen in the near future
Starting point is 01:27:04 in the beauty of building the plane and flight, what'll happen in the near future in the beauty of building the plane in flight, what'll happen in the near future is that when a user signs on, they'll actually tell us what they're most interested in. So I really like restaurants. I really like coffee shops. I really like clothing companies. I really like graphene. And then, and then what'll happen is that what you'll see will be most catered to what
Starting point is 01:27:20 you told us, but you can change that at any time. Other categories. Can I say like, show me restaurants? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh wow. Yeah. So if you scroll down, I'm totally change that at any time. Other categories? Can I say, like, show me restaurants? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah, so if you scroll down. I'm totally doing this, like, tomorrow for dinner or something. So if you scroll down,
Starting point is 01:27:29 you'll see categories. Oh, cool. So you get into all categories. So that's in Chicago and that little region. If you go to shop online, you'll see, like, there's a whole list of categories. If you scroll down, you'll see all these different ones.
Starting point is 01:27:43 Oh, yeah, look at this. Yeah. If you want jewelry, if you want jewelry if you want clothing you want retail you want tech services you have made it very easy to stop giving money to people who hate us that is music to my ears that's great news i'm very glad to hear this it's about not giving money people hate you about giving money to people who like you yes yeah and big time that is what it's about and it's impressive you did it with a small team thank you like you said you it was just a just a couple of you started it off?
Starting point is 01:28:06 Yeah, we're now at about 24 people on our headcount. That's impressive. Thank you. Thank you. It's been a lot, but it's been incredible. That's in like a year. Was that in a year you went from two to 24 people? Yeah, we wrote our first line of code 13 months ago.
Starting point is 01:28:16 That's so neat. Wow. Did you just get struck with the idea? Yeah, we needed it. You know, I have a lot of respect for business owners that start entrepreneurial ventures because they see a hole in the market. There's a whole other level of fulfillment when it's something you personally have felt. And my wife and I, we felt the COVID thing hard.
Starting point is 01:28:33 I mean, we just felt so disheartened by what was happening. We made a list of all the businesses in our local region on a piece of paper that we knew we could support because we knew the owners, we knew they would stand with us. So it came out of a lot of personal experiences, the desire to feel connected to people and not alone, because you can feel that way, especially in California. What about businesses that might be services with no physical location? Yep, those are on there too. Plumbers, electricians, financial advisors.
Starting point is 01:28:57 Would that pop up on the map, or what if they have no address? They'll pop up on the map if they have at least a focal point that they like to service. But then they'll also pop up in the category list without maybe necessarily a physical pin on the map if they have a service area but no physical location. Yeah, it's really neat. Wow. That's so cool. Is there like a woke version of this?
Starting point is 01:29:16 They have that, don't they? Yelp. Yeah, yeah. All of them. Yeah. Everything else. Next door, Yelp. All of them.
Starting point is 01:29:22 Yeah. Wow. But you're right, though. It is for us. We get asked all the time, why won't you create this big blacklist and tell me all the companies I should hate? Because that's evident. That's out there. We'd much rather focus on the positive.
Starting point is 01:29:33 Here's where you should go. It does me no good to tell you. I mean, it does you some good. Knowledge is power. But you know Chase and Bank of America don't like you. What I would rather do is tell you about Axos, which is an incredible freedom-loving bank that holds fast to the Constitution, and they'll serve you anywhere around the country. Axos Bank. A-X-O-S.
Starting point is 01:29:49 Check them out. They're amazing. A-X-O-S. They're based out of San Diego. A-X-O-S. Clothing companies like Ferroen. I'd rather tell you about this because it's hopeful. It gives you hope in the country.
Starting point is 01:29:58 I'm not a big fan of the don't give money to people that hate you because I don't think they hate you. They just don't care about you. I'd rather give money to people that like you. Yes support your ideals yep exactly that's why we exist i'd rather give more money to somebody you know serving food who was cool and was nice and supported what i supported as opposed to literally anybody else to what ian said i think there are a lot of business owners who if they knew your political leanings, would kick you out of their businesses. There are ideologues out there. all over the walls, more than their own branding, I do think that it's meant to deter anyone who's not woke from entering the business and supporting it.
Starting point is 01:30:51 Yeah, that might be something to that. Yeah, and on our vacation, it was terribly sad because I had somebody say to us, if I had known that you weren't vaccinated, I wouldn't have invited you. And I was like, crushed. I was like, this is so sad. It's horrible.
Starting point is 01:31:03 They're locked in. Weird mind state, man. And that's what Tim talks about the cult. And I wanted to say, in October of last year, we were talking to this big crowd of people we had at our little event. And I was like,
Starting point is 01:31:12 you know what? You guys should feel great about this because this tells you that you're not alone. This is something really impactful. And I feel like this app is the perfect representation of that. Thank you. So exciting.
Starting point is 01:31:22 Thank you. That means a lot. Yeah, I'm stoked. That's what we do. I love it. Do you have venues on here? here like oh yeah we have a really cool art collective venue that just joined from san diego highly recommend i can't even remember their name but if you look in venues in san diego we have a music venue in indiana that just joined like really cool yeah it's awesome yeah because that was a big thing during covid there was a big vaccination push for music venues,
Starting point is 01:31:45 and some bands required it, not even because of their personal convictions, but because the venue required it. And so we wanted to kind of counteract that as well. Those venues also need to let some comedians know who's allowed. Yeah, for sure. Big time. We're going to go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that Like button,
Starting point is 01:32:03 subscribe to this channel, share the show if you really do like it, and become a member at TimCast.com. We're going to have that members-only show coming up for you at 11pm, but let's read. I'm going to have to keep this one short from Eric. Just read the beginning. He says, Tim, you're right about the Civil War. And he says he hopes people prepare for what's coming. Yes, yes. I often
Starting point is 01:32:19 tell people just preparation is being sustainable. Figuring out what you need to survive and not relying on a machine or a system because you don't know what's going to happen that's all i can really say i don't know what else preparation would would would really mean because no one knows what will happen we may be in an era of purely fifth generational warfare it's all psychological operations and that's it but we may end up seeing something like supply chain disruption, so preparation just literally means, do you know where your dinner is coming from?
Starting point is 01:32:48 Download on your phones a survival guide, not because the world is ending, but because some days you might find yourself lost in the woods. That's it. You might want to learn how to start a fire or something if you're going to have a campfire with your friends. Might not have coverage. I just got notified that the app Public Square
Starting point is 01:33:04 might actually be overloaded right now. People aren't able to sign in. They get to the phone number part and then it kicks them back. Yep, they can skip the phone number part if you'd like to. There's a skip for now. That can sometimes help. I figured that this would probably be a large traffic spike.
Starting point is 01:33:18 All devs are on alert. They're handling it. We've got an amazing team. I wish I knew about this sooner. Legit, when we go out on the weekends and stuff, I'ms are on alert. They're handling it. We've got an amazing team. I wish I knew about this sooner. Legit, when we go out on the weekends and stuff, I'm only using these businesses. Oh, for sure. Amazing. It was so – I've got to say it was awesome to go to Chicago and look at my neighborhood and see that there are businesses there. And it's like very few, surprisingly.
Starting point is 01:33:38 I mean, there's a lot there you can see on the map. Totally. But not as many as you'd hope for. I mean, but it's Chicago. What do you expect? Well, and we just launched. I mean, again, we've only been nationwide for six weeks. but not as many as you'd hope for. But it's Chicago. What do you expect? Well, and we just launched. Again, we've only been nationwide for six weeks.
Starting point is 01:33:52 Part of that is once communities find out about it and then the businesses start telling their friends, that's what's led to blossoming growth. This is so great. Thanks, guys. I had friends who worked at places that got fake ratings on Yelp and things like that. I knew a guy who ran a burger joint, and he said that he would get these fake ratings on Yelp and things like that. Oh, dude. I knew a guy who ran a burger joint, and he said that he would get these fake reviews on Yelp, and then all of the good reviews would be held as spam,
Starting point is 01:34:12 and all the bad reviews would rise. And then you get a phone call being like, hey, why don't you advertise with us? And he'd be like, no, and then it would get worse. They'd be like, we can give you special editing access. I don't know if that's true. I just know that's what a guy told me, to be fair. It's real
Starting point is 01:34:25 that's crazy and they'll help some businesses alleviate bad reviews and they won't others based upon their political views that's shady yeah so like a lot of the businesses that have taken stances for anything remotely right of center if they get a negative review from someone in new york that's clearly never been to their business in phoenix yelp won't help you even if you're a paying client you have to pay a lot to Yelp to really be shown anywhere, like in any serious degree. Like starting at $300. Yelp's an expensive platform for an advertiser.
Starting point is 01:34:52 And so you have these advertisers that feel part of the community, and yet they get completely slapped in the face. I feel like you guys should have to have a receipt in order to leave a review. I think that's a good idea. That's a great idea. Yeah, you can scan it. Alright, or maybe the receipt can go through the app.
Starting point is 01:35:08 You know what you should do? Ready. I'm all ideas. Payment processor. Build a plane with us. Payment processor. Damn, Bongino. So when people integrate that.
Starting point is 01:35:16 So you go to the store and they have the thing, the tablet. And they spin it around and you tap it and then you slide it back. The receipt stays within the app. Boom. There you go, man. Love it. All right. Selene Hope says,
Starting point is 01:35:27 I think a two-year mandatory military service would solve a lot of America's problems. It would correct bad parenting, lack of discipline, and addiction. I don't disagree, but I also agree that it would create a ton of new problems, and I'm not sure I would agree with conscription.
Starting point is 01:35:40 I like the idea of people getting discipline. I don't know if I like the idea of I don't think it can be implemented what about military school people should have to serve two years of military school I don't know I wish that I had learned military tactics
Starting point is 01:35:58 at the age of 17 I love military tactics and I don't know why but I love them well then the question becomes who is teaching those tactics and it would probably be the state if you're going to give it to the military wow and if the military is teaching the military schools what they're teaching the military currently no good i would not let my kids go yeah triton 54 says tomorrow's headline ag merrick garland orders the arrest of conservative protesters outside Judge Reinhardt's home. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:36:26 Yep. Except for the ones screaming to go do some crazy stuff. No, basically the point is they wouldn't do it to the Supreme Court justices. They wouldn't arrest people outside their homes. Right. Yeah. All right. Augusto Mimochet says,
Starting point is 01:36:45 The House Select Committee on Assassinations concluded that JFK was a conspiracy, and the next day all the evidence used in the committee was stolen from CIA storage. That's crazy. Is that true or not? You can look that up. Someone just fact-checked it. I don't know. Interesting if true.
Starting point is 01:36:58 It was definitely a conspiracy. We just don't know who conspired. All right. Alex Maggiore says, I only know that Dan Bongino is the guy that posts that Biden is the worst president in U.S. history every day on Twitter. Maybe you can have him on IRL. I'm already a subscriber to Timcast, but maybe people should know him. He's a cool dude.
Starting point is 01:37:18 People do know him. He's huge. He's been really helpful to us, too. What's that? Bongino's been really helpful to us. He's promoted us a lot in the last month. Very grateful for that. I have to say, I used to think he was crazy, and I do not anymore.
Starting point is 01:37:28 Did you hear his rant last night on the news after this broke about the FBI raiding Trump's place? What did he say? He called it some third-world BS and just went off about how our country is a banana republic. I mean, yeah, you have the current president's son that's doing what he's doing, and yet the opposition leader is being raided. It's like that's the most clear, evident form of banana republic i mean yeah you have the current president's son that's doing what he's doing and yet the opposition leader is being raided it's like that's the most clear evident form of banana republics that you can possibly dream about i gotta look that up yeah dan was going off all right let's uh let's grab some super chats david c cronk senior says do you think it's possible that the dnc knew this was in the works so they funded MAGA candidates believing the raid would hurt them maybe 40 chess yeah the idea is to make trump look like he's
Starting point is 01:38:11 culpable or something's going on yeah i don't know man i guess i just find it hard like i think this is firing up the base even further i don't know who that person was on twitter today that had the viral tweet where he's basically like i was on the fence about trump 2024 but if this turns out to not lead to anything and this is a witch hunt like i'm all in he's got my vote i think they're going to be a lot of people that are like that solely because they are so frustrated at the establishment pulling yet another example of this tyranny all right let's grab some superchats. Bobcat says, Don't forget a president has unilateral authority to say if something isn't classified anymore.
Starting point is 01:38:49 A Secretary of State does not. So even if he had some red stickers, the law says he can. Is that true? Trump can just say it's not classified anymore? I don't know. We talked about that. Was it before the show?
Starting point is 01:39:00 Before the show, yeah. I keep hearing that. Like if you want to be like, Oh, all the Kennedy stuff, declass. All the alien stuff, declass. All the declass all the alien stuff declass all the secret weapons the cia's that declass no i mean i can't imagine that would fly that it may not fly because there are other powers at play but i think it is legal i think you as a president can basically declassify anything you want because you're the commander-in-chief you have the sole authority over issues of national security and classification
Starting point is 01:39:23 and so and what's interesting is if you dig back even deeper the last kind of modification to that classification um rules and parameters was made by obama in 2009 um who basically made it way more lenient and vague so um very interesting but all right thorin park says ian's shirt looks like it's made out of children's party napkins. That's awesome. Isn't that plastic tablecloth that you start tearing apart because you feel anxious? I think it would melt on a hot day.
Starting point is 01:39:53 Someone gave this to me. Aaron Freeman says, lest we not forget, they wanted Garland as a Supreme Court judge. They're going for broke now. How do we stop activist shenanigans this election? You gotta go and tell literally every single person you know to vote.
Starting point is 01:40:08 Every single one of them. Also fortify your life so that shenanigans aren't going to destroy it. Make a system that can withhold that kind of stuff because that kind of stuff is always going to play out. You call everyone in your phone book and say, hey, are you going to vote? You go knock on every single door, hey, are you going to vote?
Starting point is 01:40:23 And you get 10. Every person gets 10 of their friends and asks them, are you going to vote? You go knock on every single door, hey, are you going to vote? And you get 10. Every person gets 10 of their friends and asks them, are you going to go vote? And go vote. Oh, this is important. Purposeful. Porpoise says Trump had element 115 in his safe. The Zeta Reticulans will not stand for this. Sounds like Bob Lazar.
Starting point is 01:40:40 Yeah, is that what he said? Yeah, Zeta Reticuli. I think when Bob was working at Area 51, that they told him that? Yeah, Zeta Reticuli. I think when Bob was working at Area 51 that they told him that there was a Zeta Reticuli, there were little green men and there was a special element 115. It's like a red herring. So if Bob ever went rogue, he would look like an idiot.
Starting point is 01:40:55 Because there is no Zeta Reticuli. There's no element 115. If there is, it's not what they were using. They put a puppet of an alien up in that drone that they were working on and made him think it was alien. Tavnazian says, quote, one of Trump's attorneys says they put a puppet of an alien up in that drone that they were working on and made him think it was alien. Wild. Tavnazian says, quote, One of Trump's attorneys says they are not in possession of the warrant presented by the FBI prior to the search at Mar-a-Lago.
Starting point is 01:41:15 They were allowed to see it, then it was taken away. That sounds strange. I don't know about that. All right. Mai Zhu Yang says, there yeah all right my zoo yang says what if biden and his party want trump's idea of how to make america great so they are stealing his documents by rating oh yeah that's what it is they want to make america great trump's gonna win so they're gonna steal his plan all right jimmy joe says crystal knocked was november 9th shortly after the reichstag fire interesting wow Jimmy Joe says Kristallnacht was November 9th, shortly after the Reichstag fire.
Starting point is 01:41:45 Interesting. Christopher Lambert. Someone check Ian's dice. No one rolls that many 20s in a row naturally. It's this one right here. I don't know if you can see from here. Someone printed this. It's all 20s.
Starting point is 01:42:00 That's the one he's rolling. Oh, I saw someone chat. I'm not saying that there is no element 115. There is, but what they told Bob at that time, they had not developed 115 yet. And they just gave him some random futuristic element that would be realized in the future. Now we have it. Keith Fraser says, don't forget that JFK threatened to break the FBI into a million pieces. Is that true? I think it is.
Starting point is 01:42:19 Yes. Yeah, he did. Yeah, I don't know if those are exact words. But yeah, he said he was going to shatter it into oblivion or something. Oh, boy. Wow. It's a metaphor. Well, and wasn't the conspiracy around it, like the week before he had premiered some sort of something that was going to lead to the shattering of some of these three-letter agencies?
Starting point is 01:42:37 That's a big thing that always, you know, Joe Rogan's big on the timeline of events leading up to the assassination. And how, what was that JFK revisited documentary that was really good two years ago. Oliver Stone? Yeah, talked about kind of the timeline leading up to it. And yeah, apparently that's the story, is that he not only said that, but there was some actions in practice.
Starting point is 01:42:58 Splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces was the actual quote. And scatter it to the winds. Yeah, the CIA. Good for him. Let's see. H Music says, Hillary didn't learn
Starting point is 01:43:06 when she made her Love Trump's Hate campaign slogan. It's only missing the apostrophe. So now she's trying, but her email instead. Do you guys remember that? I remember the first time I saw the signs
Starting point is 01:43:16 Love Trump's Hate and I was like, she wants me to love Trump? Yeah, I remember. His hatred or something? I don't understand. Like you're saying Trump is hateful
Starting point is 01:43:24 and I should love his hatefulness? I do love that hate. And then someone explained to me, I went, oh, because the T was capitalized, I didn't understand. I get what, wow, these people are terrible. I thought I should have checked that. A good meme would be love Trumps. Just like, get it, like, when you Trump something, it means
Starting point is 01:43:39 you're like beating it, you're like one-upping it. That's what it means. Love Trumps. That's it. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, I take that to mean it's like, do I love the trumps? Is that what I'm supposed to think? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I'm confused. They tried to meme.
Starting point is 01:43:52 Yeah. Andrew Ryan says, a man chooses, a slave obeys. Oof. Oof. True. Brian David says, I am also left-handed with a recent left-hand injury. Also, my membership was automatically renewed via PayPal two days ago. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:44:08 Was that not supposed to happen? Weren't we supposed to use Parallel Economy? If people are signed up through PayPal, PayPal is just going to do their thing until they switch. But I can't say too much, but we're working on new infrastructure stuff. So I don't say too much, but we're working on new infrastructure stuff, so I don't know. Yeah. But if you do want to support the show, we use Parallel Economy. So when you sign up for TimCast.com, you're not only supporting us, you're supporting Parallel Economy, which is a censorship-resistant financial transaction service, and our infrastructure is built on Rumble. So we very much are trying to help flourish and grow this ecosystem so that we can get away from the super chat.
Starting point is 01:44:48 From the super chat. The super chat. We love the super chat. The super chat. From the censorship. We love super chat. Danaverk says, Ian, check out the Global Consciousness Project. I know that.
Starting point is 01:45:03 Global. Sounds interesting. Alex Ramazee says, Rudy Giuliani on Crowder's show today said, on Crowder's show today, that the FBI were the ones who put locks on the door where the docks were allegedly being stored. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:45:17 Is that... Really? I don't know. I don't know what that means. They locked the door or something? No idea. Grofty says, buck the peck button buck buck buck
Starting point is 01:45:28 yeah Grofty a big fan of Chicken City yes we love Grofty Chicken City a few of the chickens have moved to a new location
Starting point is 01:45:35 a top secret location they've been rehoming yeah the Chicken City is much too large there is too much chicken poop it smells wow
Starting point is 01:45:42 it does and especially on a warm humid night through my closed window somehow even the Amish There is too much chicken poop. It smells. Wow. It does, and especially on a warm, humid night. Through my closed windows somehow. Even the Amish live far away from those wild things. A little too many chickens. A little overcrowded.
Starting point is 01:45:54 Big city. Jacob Carter says, As a Christian, I must say, 1. The rapture is non-biblical nonsense. 2. I can't wait for the second coming, but understand it's up to the father. Also, hope you're having a great day, guys. God bless. Would you agree with that? Agree.
Starting point is 01:46:10 I would agree on both counts. Alright. Ken says, I keep alluding to moving out to provincial Philippines. It's my graphene. These same New York Times libs complain about the government, then celebrate worse. Mabu, uh, I can't read that.
Starting point is 01:46:25 I don't know what it says. Never come back to the US. Well, all right. If you feel it like I feel graphene, follow your dreams. Zeba, Zebada says, dude, you should pay attention
Starting point is 01:46:35 to South America. Communism is brewing down here in Chile. Look for the 4th of September and, what does it say, Boric? He has all of the dictator vibes.
Starting point is 01:46:47 Oh, and in Chile, that happens with salmon. Oh, no. Oh, the chicken poop stuff? Not the poop fish. No. Not the poop fish. I thought it was only the tilapia. No.
Starting point is 01:46:57 Don't ruin salmon for me as well. Don't let me have salmon. The perk of living in San Diego, lots of fresh fish. I lived in Santiago, Chile for a while, and what I noticed most notoriously was that all the police in the city were national police. They were like feds. There is no local law enforcement there. So if a crazy guy takes hold of that government,
Starting point is 01:47:15 he has the entire country's law enforcement system. E. Rodriguez says, Tim, I live in New York, and I am completely fed up with modern leftism. And while I hate staying, moving to a red state at this point in my life is extremely difficult. But I'm not giving up on it. I hear you, man. It's not easy for everybody. When I was in Chicago and I moved to LA, I just took a backpack and a couple hundred bucks and just went.
Starting point is 01:47:36 No plan. Nowhere to sleep. Just whatever. Figured it out. Worked out. I don't know, though. Suppose if you live in the middle of nowhere, you're going to be sleeping outside. I guess sleeping outside is better than sleeping outside. Sleeping outside in the forest or a field is better than outside the city. Very true.
Starting point is 01:47:52 I don't know. A lot of bugs. Come to California? Yeah. Trying to make our state seem better. We're trying to. Not a lot of bugs. We're not moving there.
Starting point is 01:48:00 Not much problem. All right. Waffle Sense says, Ian, have you ever thought that you're not just seeing patterns in the universe, but that you're feeling God speak to you? Because in my experience, God manifests this kind of way, not with some audible voice in your ear. Yes, Waffle Sensei, I love you, by the way, man. Yeah, God speaks to me in shapes. I see visions of behavior.
Starting point is 01:48:23 I don't necessarily, sometimes I'll hear words like an impulse of a sound, but normally it's a vision of me doing something or something happening when I ask a question. That's the response. The Bible for unbearable says, Revelation 18, 23, For your merchants were the great men of the earth, and by the
Starting point is 01:48:39 sorceries all nations were deceived. The word sorceries is translated from the Greek word pharmakeia. Yeah, that's right. Wow, really? Weird, yeah. Interesting. The spirit of sorcery that takes over the world was the spirit of pharmakeia.
Starting point is 01:48:56 Very, very interesting. Yep, Revelation 18. There's been, for a while now, people have been talking about the signs. And they're trying to look at Revelation and then say, look, this is this thing and this is this thing. Totally. But I've heard that for a while. People thought Hitler was the Antichrist because he talked about establishing the Third Reich,
Starting point is 01:49:14 which was literally going to be like a thousand-year dominion. There were a lot of reasons that Christians have thought we're in the final days for literally thousands of years. I missed the pharmakeia. What was that? Revelations 18. You can read the exact verse again. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:49:28 1823. Yeah. Look up Revelation 1823. Yeah. Mr. Toad says, what is Public Square's version of ESG? Oh, love this question. Yeah, we adamantly stand against ESG, environmental social governance standards, if you're not familiar.
Starting point is 01:49:44 It's the new philosophy that's overtaken especially the world of corporate investing. And so most any company you buy from that's owned by a corporation at this point adopts these ESG standards and they rob your life in a lot of ways. They basically prioritize woke politics and
Starting point is 01:49:59 nearsighted and almost ignorant principles related to the environment in their production of goods that you buy and then they make you come along that journey with them and they also carry that into hiring and so this relates to things like diversity quotas dei is another word that's very similar different philosophical framework but they go in tandem often which is diversity equity inclusion public square uh stands against it by not focusing on identity politics at all. And the thing we are most concerned about in the world of manufacturing is not carbon
Starting point is 01:50:32 emissions. It is make your stuff in America. Because if you make your stuff in America, statistically, it'll lead to less emissions because China is the world's great polluter right now. And most of that comes from manufacturing. So if we can trust that you're making your products in America, there's a good likelihood that it's far more sustainable than what's happening overseas too.
Starting point is 01:50:47 Waffles says, have you guys seen Saudi Arabia's The Line? It's a mega city they are building. Look it up. It's weird dystopian stuff. I have seen so many videos like this. It's nonsense. Some artist probably made it. I don't think it's real. What's happening in this Agenda 2030 concept
Starting point is 01:51:04 is mega cities. They want to put humans in centralized spots so they can have wild land. But the problem is humans centralized do not do well. We need to be able to move in different directions to get away if there's a disaster. Not just that. If you take a little
Starting point is 01:51:20 bit of chicken poop, let's say one mop bucket full and throw it into a field. Give or take. How long until that is washed away and dissipates? Rather quickly. I mean, one rain probably. Take, I don't know, 200 tons of chicken poop and centralize it in the same place.
Starting point is 01:51:35 And how long until it gets washed away? Exponentially longer. When you put all these people in one city and they're all taking dumps every day how do you how do you wash that away it's it's very very difficult to to maintain and manage that system could have to hit with lasers whereas for people live in rural areas who are on septic systems know that if you do it right you can leave that system for years you have to worry about it you know too much because bacteria takes care of it that's right that's called sustainable Yeah. I was just picturing a septic tank with a laser inside that blasts the carbon and turns it into graphene once it hits.
Starting point is 01:52:10 Remember the flooding in the New York subway system that was happening? During Sandy? Hurricane Sandy? No, somewhat recently. And people were talking about how that system, it was built so long ago that they think it's on its last legs, but there's nothing you can really do to repair it. Yep. So in New York, I could be wrong about this.
Starting point is 01:52:31 This is what I was told. They have these big nitrogen tanks on street corners. You've seen them before probably. Big chrome tanks of nitrogen. And you'll see like steam. You'll see like a big orange cone of of steam coming out. What I was told is that the wiring systems of New York are so old that they're melting underground and falling apart, so they blast
Starting point is 01:52:50 nitrogen to exhaust the heat. So it's like a duct tape solution to the problem. Maybe it's not true, though. I mean, just some dude in New York told me that, so maybe it's not real. But you got to understand, when you build a machine like the subway system, yet repairing that is difficult
Starting point is 01:53:07 like what do you do it's like okay we're we're advancing our new technology but we've got how many square miles how many how many how many miles in general of track that you would need to change for new technology that's the challenge of these big cities. So one thing you'll see is fascinating. Cell technology in poor countries would be better than they were in America. The United States, we get the, like, I think the first network was like the IDEN network. And so, you know, we launched the cell network and we're like, look at this. Our phones work in other places. Poor country couldn't afford it. So they didn't build it.
Starting point is 01:53:41 Then the technology started becoming cheaper and cheaper. But by then we had already developed CDMA or something like that. So then these poor countries implement the stronger, better technology because it took them longer to get. Wow. And then we're trapped with these old garbage networks that we're trying to repurpose. Looks like New York's got 248 miles of routes. This is subway. The subway system.
Starting point is 01:54:02 665 miles of revenue track. I'm not sure what that is exactly, but a total of 850 miles of track. Wow. So there's revenue and non-revenue track. I'm not sure. Oh, that's crazy. Do you guys know much about Starlink? I have Starlink.
Starting point is 01:54:15 You do? Yeah. Do you like it? We've done tests on it, and the upload rate is impractical for a business. Insufficient. Gotcha. Yeah, five megabits. Your last point. Impractical for a streaming business. Yeah. I mean for any business business. Insufficient. Gotcha. Yeah, five megabits. Your last point.
Starting point is 01:54:25 Impractical for a streaming business. Yeah. I mean for any business to be honest. Gotcha. So they're still in the early stages.
Starting point is 01:54:30 Yeah. Yeah, we got the, I got the RV version and the business version. Yep. And the business one's much bigger and it's not faster.
Starting point is 01:54:37 Have you had luck linking them together? We have not yet bonded them. But that's the next experiment we need to do because we have three. We have two RV units and one business unit.
Starting point is 01:54:47 And so we also have the Ethernet system and we have a bonding unit. We can actually spread them out, blast them all off, and then bond them. And then it's a diminishing return. Five megabits up per each. You'll probably end up with 11 or 12 megabits. So it's a diminishing return. That's not bad. But it's good.
Starting point is 01:55:10 For people in rural areas, Starlink's fantastic. And those poor countries, like you're mentioning. If you're in a poor, rural country. But I'll be honest, if you're running a business, we already have satellite internet. That's good. I think our satellite internet is actually faster than Starlink, but the latency is 10 times slower. That's good. I think our satellite internet is actually faster than Starlink, but the latency is 10 times slower.
Starting point is 01:55:27 That's the issue. Wow. With Starlink, the latency, I think, was 68 milliseconds, and our existing satellite is like 360 or something like that. So five times. It's faster, but it has worse latency? What's that mean exactly? It's longer ping. So if you're playing a video game, you'll get lag.
Starting point is 01:55:44 Right? You're playing World of Warcraft, you're going to swing. So it sends more data per packet, but it sends packets less frequently? It's a further distance because Starlink is low orbit. There, I got it out. Yeah. I think that's what it is. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:56:00 The lower latency allows you to send and receive signals faster, but there's less data in it, I guess. It could just be because of congestion or something. I have no idea. We'll have to get Elon on the show and ask him about it. That's a great idea. Anytime, anytime. Joss Mosk says, 2 Timothy 3, 1 through 5 talks about the last days before the return of Jesus and sounds like where we are now in the world.
Starting point is 01:56:30 Okay. But I think it always does i mean you mentioned like hitler because hitler is the best example of someone that would have been the antichrist i can think of yeah yeah yeah there's a lot of reasons as you look back in fact there's a year maybe one of y'all can help me and look this up but there was a year i think it was 936 a.d 636 a.d it was the darkest year in human history because the volcano blew up in Southeast Asia, and it sent the whole world into black for a year. Like, the sun didn't shine for a year. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:52 Woo! Crazy. It's like, you hear stories like that. That sounds fun. You're like, can you imagine what the people must have been thinking? Yeah. There's no proof we're dying. No.
Starting point is 01:56:59 And, yeah, diseases start running rampant. Like, you had every reason to think you're in the end times. Wow. And here we are today. So, you know. Stellar Orbit says, to think you're in the end times. Wow. And here we are today. So, you know. Stellar Orbit says, I think we crashed the Public Square app. Yep. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:10 It'll be back up. We've got an amazing team of devs. This is the beauty of building the plane in flight, and we just launched. So I really appreciate the traffic. That's amazing. But you asked the greatest challenge, which is, in the world of software, when you've got a lean and mean team accommodating the demand, thank you so much, everybody, for wanting to join the community.
Starting point is 01:57:26 It should be up and running back to you ASAP. Brofen Brofen says, Mike, is there an API? Lots of APIs. It would depend on what they're looking for. Oh, well, there you go. In terms of being able to source businesses from the platform for other uses. Yeah, kind of. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:43 All right. Kyle Bratton says, literally just downloaded the app. Will be putting my business on here and convince my friends to do the same. Hey, that's awesome. Absolutely. That's what makes the platform special. That's so cool. I was surprised to see how many in D.C. were on the app. Right? There's a lot. Yeah. That's great. I'm going to D.C. this
Starting point is 01:57:57 weekend. We're going to make sure we're only going to good businesses who don't hate us. Yes. Absolutely. And I would probably assume, too, because while there are a lot of businesses, I wouldn't say it's a large percentage of total businesses, right? Yeah, 30 million small businesses in the United States. And so we've got awesome partners in this space that have had a lot of hope for us from the beginning because they just have been exposed to so many small business owners. You guys have had Charlie Kirk on your show. Charlie Kirk, when he first heard about this in January, looked me in the eyes and said, in the next year, you'll have 100,000
Starting point is 01:58:27 businesses on this thing. I mean, the market is just so large for it because there is such a coalition of these people. So yeah, the potential is pretty wild. 30 million small businesses in the United States. And what gets me really excited is all the employees that are positively affected through that. Because you think for every small business, you've got a few employees most of the time you're accounting for too. And so if we can help even a tiny percentage of that like that's a dream come true a lot of people are asking about canada ah yes we okay uh we're coming i'll tell you that and i will also say this it is our next country so let us uh take care of the united states first and uh hire a little bit more of a robust team,
Starting point is 01:59:05 and then we will take on Canada. But that is our next stop. All right. One more super chat. We've got Justin Green who says, Joe Kent wins primary election. Joe Kent won? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:59:14 I'd have to check. I believe it. The eight-day election or whatever? Yeah. All right, everybody. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that Like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and head over to timcast.com.
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Starting point is 01:59:39 PublicSQ.com, if you want to learn more about the site. You can follow me on Twitter at realmichaelsife, S-E-I-F. Just half my last name. I'll make it easier on you. At RealMichaelSeif. That's where I'm at on Twitter. That's probably where I post the most. And we'd love to have you on the journey with us.
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Starting point is 02:00:13 Alright guys, great show tonight. Awesome to see you Mike. That was great. Really cool actually. Really awesome. Bye everyone. I love you. And I would say too for this app crashing tonight to check in tomorrow. Thank you so much for coming and discussing this with us, Michael. This is a huge white pill. I'm so glad it's working now.
Starting point is 02:00:30 And I want to say, there's an old Latin adage which says, we're all familiar with it, if you would have peace, prepare for war. And I think that's the best way to live life. I will leave you with that. You guys can follow me on Twitter and Minds.com at Sour Patch Lids, as well as Sour Patch Lids.me. We will see you all over at TimCast.com.
Starting point is 02:00:45 Thanks for hanging out. Bye, guys.

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