Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #598 - Famed Leftist CEO RESIGNS After Assault Allegations w/Will Chamberlain & Shane Cashman

Episode Date: August 20, 2022

Tim, Ian, and Lydia host lawyer & senior counsel at the Article 3 Project along with Timcast author and podcaster Shane Cashman to discuss the hypocritical leftist CEO accused of rape, the feminist SheHulk clip, billionaires' nuclear bunkers, and what the majority thinks of Biden's FBI. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Peter Thiel's trying to build some, like, New Zealand bunker or whatever, resorts. A bunch of global elites have been preparing for something and maybe it's just because they can, they have money. What else are you going to buy? So build yourself a missile silo bunker, I guess. Or maybe the world is ending. Well, we will talk about that, but I kind of felt like it'd be

more fun to tackle some cultural issues because we have this story about this famous leftist CEO named Dan Price. He's famous because he raised everyone's salaries to $70,000. And it caused a lot of issues but also garnered a lot of attention among the left. He is now being accused of some very serious, let's just say, metoo. He's been metooed. And he's been forced to resign.

And so there's this meme, this old meme called Reset the Clock. And that was whenever a male feminist was outed as being this old meme called Reset the Clock. That was whenever a male feminist was outed as being a predator. You'd reset the clock. Here we go again. The New York Times reported on this. We'll talk about that. We've got a bunch of other stories.

I'm really excited to talk about She-Hulk. Yes, that's right. A Marvel show. You guys know I love Marvel shows. This clip is going viral where the She-Hulk talks about how she has to control her anger over men catcalling her and when incompetent men tell her how to do her job. I have a lot to say about this, but it's going viral. I think Ben Shapiro may have talked about it as well. It's become a cultural debate, and I actually watched She-Hulk.

Believe it or not, I actually mostly liked it, but I got to call out this segment. We got to talk about that. Before we get started, and of course the Peter Thiel stuff, before we get started, head over to TimCast.com. Become a member. Support our work. You'll get access to all of our shows. We got the TimCast uncensored after-hours show Monday through Thursday. Cast Castle vlogs are officially live. They'll be up every Tuesday at 7 p.m.

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Christchurch and City. Smash that like button. Subscribe to this channel. Share the show if you really do like it. Joining us to talk about this and more, we've got Will Chamberlain.

Thank you, Senior Counsel at the Internet Accountability Project and the Article 3 Project. Really happy to be here, as always. I don't know. I must be coming up on like seven or eight appearances. Oh, yeah. at the Internet Accountability Project and the Article 3 Project. Really happy to be here, as always. I don't know.

I must be coming up on like seven or eight appearances. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We were... I don't want to say who our guest was supposed to be because we're hoping to rebook them, but we are going to get a very high-ranking official from the Trump administration who unfortunately had to cancel on us and we needed Will's legal expertise.

But, of course, Will is still here with a lot of stuff to talk about, so I'm really excited for that. Thanks for hanging out, friend. We got Shane Cashman. What's up? Thanks for having me, guys. Author and host of Tales from the Inverted World at TimCast.com exclusive. And yeah, every Sunday at 10 right now, we're doing Ghosts from the Civil War, watching me have my life threatened. And I see UFOs. Twice, right?

Ghosts twice, yeah. And it's been a crazy year. And we're going to be launching the Inverted World podcast, which is the conversations with people and their weird experiences, UFOs, having guests and stuff. And you guys can call in. Oh, cool. Yeah, call in stories. I'm really excited for that because there's an endless number of people telling crazy stories that need to get exposure.

Yeah. I don't know if I should reveal any of the stories that you've already been get exposure. Yeah. You know, like I've heard, like there's, I don't know if I should reveal any of the stories that you've already been working on. Yeah. Like people have been talking about jumping dimensions and weird stuff. Alternate husbands. Alternate husbands. Missing husbands.

Missing husbands. You know, the Hadron Collider gets turned on and then a new husband might have showed up. Dude, these stories are crazy. It'll be fun. Just before the show, we were talking about like CIA advanced weaponry and stuff like that. So I think this is going to be a real fun conversation.

Yeah, thanks for having me. Ian Sangenow. Hi, everybody. Ian Crossland, musician, entertainer, actor, and internet video pioneer. Billboard model. That's right. Philanthropist, billionaire, playboy. All of the above. And crooked camera. Yeah, wow. What happened? Someone bumped him. Who did that?

Who did it? Who did it? Who did me? Who done it? I gotta fix it. It was Shane's fault. We'll get that fixed. Shane has fixed it. Well, what's up, everybody? Happy Friday. Let's get down to brass tacks.

Hello, half of Ian. Oh, good. We fixed it. See if you can get my whole name in the side. That's what I like to do for the framing. Now we have... Yeah, dog. What up?

Oh, you want to put the painting back up? Yeah, no. That one was Ian's fault. And now I'm the cameraman. It's fault. And now I'm a cameraman. Friday, we're always just like eyes half glazed over and just like ready to go. Got a little whiskey.

Did you already introduce yourself? I am also here. I'm wearing my Friday t-shirt because we are just chilling with our two regulars. Love these two guys. Let's get going. Alright, we're going to jump to this first story. And it's from the New York Times, but we will be leading with a quote from Dan Price posting on LinkedIn. He said,

in the unlikely event that you are falsely accused, remember that it will be much easier for you to overcome false allegations than it will be for actual victims to overcome the trauma of harassment or assault. Go on. That being said, Dan, I suppose I'm not supposed to care at all

that you are claiming these are false allegations, but these are some crazy allegations. So take a look at the headline. Social media was a CEO's bullhorn and how he lured women. Oh my. This is what you get when you pander to woke people.

Or maybe the people who pander to these woke people are just predators. Dan Price was applauded for paying a minimum salary of seventy thousand dollars at a seattle company and criticizing corporate greed the adulation helped to hide and enable his behavior i'm just going to give you the gist of it yo this is crazy like they talk about how he's on the daily show and they did magazines with him but apparently he's been accused, I guess, of drugging a woman. Look at this. Raping and drugging a victim?

On Monday, police in Palm Springs, California said they had referred Ms. Margis' case to local prosecutors recommending a charge of rape of a drugged victim. Prosecutors in Seattle earlier this year charged her with a price with assault in another incident. Apparently he tried to kiss a woman and then when she refused he choked her. So questions. Is this retaliation from the woke because you can never trust them or is it that if someone is willing to

pander and lie to gain power they're probably willing to do that for sex? Yeah and there's sort of a default like the fakeness of nice like i actually distinguish between being nice and being kind right like kindness is something that comes from a position of like strength and normalcy nice whenever you talk about nice guys you always know that there's like an element of like deception nefariousness right like it's sort of

like i think that people think like they put coins in the nice it's like a like a vending machine right they put coins in the nice button and then eventually they get to the girl they want. Like a nice guy won't step on someone's toes. A kind guy might step on your toes just to let you know your toes are in the wrong spot. Yeah. Or like, well, a kind guy just does it from a position of strength, right? Like they have the ability to do, they could be, they have powers. So, but they're being kind and not using it that way.

Whereas nice is like, they're trying to attract women by being fake and they think it's a game. Yeah. I knew a guy, me and this other guy, we were hanging out. My one friend is like a Rico Suave type who's going to bars and picking up chicks and very proud of himself. And this other guy was having trouble. So I'm sitting there and I I'm kind of passively listening.

And we'll call him Guy A because I don't want to call anybody's personal lives out. But Guy A is talking about how he doesn't understand why he's always in the friend zone. He goes on to – so Guy B, who's this suave dude, is like, tell me what you do when you go on a date. And he explained how he's like, I always put women i always treat them like royalty like queens i ask them whatever they want you can have and then we i i'm listening to this and i was just like dude you think that comes off as sincere and nice like you're treating the person like they're not really there with you you're acting like they're a piece of plastic and that you're

going to feed the machine quarters hoping that sex comes out. I was like, that's not nice. That's creepy. And it also breeds resentment. Because they have put in the nice coins and they don't get what they're expecting, they get super resentful and angry about it. It's like the kind of guy who,

there's a woman and she's got spinach in her teeth and he's like, I'm not going to say anything. That's exactly what I was thinking about. The hottest girl in the world, if she's got spinach in her teeth, tell her like, I'm not going to say anything. That's exactly what I was thinking about. The hottest girl in the world. If she's got spinach in her teeth, tell her. She wants to know this so she can take it out. Right. But that's anybody too.

Like nice and kind. It's like if someone had gunk in their teeth, would you tell them? I do. I'm like, hey, you've got a thing in your teeth. And they go, oh, thanks. They'll be more mad at you if you didn't tell them. Right. And then they find out.

They're like, why didn't you tell me? Because like, oh, I didn't want to put you on the spot. I didn't want to. No. So this guy, Dan Price, I really want to talk about his business because so much of what we see coming from perceived, this really, really grinds my gears. The idea of left versus right. If you are a sincere person who asks a question, you're right.

I'll give you, I'll give you, I'll give you an example, right? Seamus, this is one of Seamus's jokes. He says, the left will come out and be like, we want good thing. We want good thing. And then a conservative will go, okay, how do we pay for a good thing? You want bad thing. You want bad thing. And that's like the whole, it's like your right wing for simply being like.

So we get this story of this guy, Dan Price. He raises everybody's salary. Well, I happen to run a company and I understand how taxes work. So my first question here, he lowers his salary from like a million bucks or something to 70,000. And for me, alarm bells went off. I was like, oh, bro's trying to save himself some money. Because it's when you take profit versus like compensation, it's their tax differently. And so this is at least how two of my, two different accounting companies I've gone with

have explained it to me. So, you know, maybe they're not correct, but this is my understanding, is that passive profit is not taxed the same way as employment income or direct compensation. So when I see this, I'm like, if the dude lowers his salary, he's going to save a lot of money in taxes.

Right, I was assuming if he owns or has a major stake in the company that he's running. And I'm pretty sure this dude does. Yeah, he does. Yeah, he gets profit. So at the end of the year, if you're only paying yourself $70K, like Bezos does this. Bezos takes an $87,000 a year salary and then gets bonuses. And then justify to the IRS why your salary is so low. But if you're going to get audited anyway.

So what I was told by two different accounting companies was if you're a CEO of a company with an eight-figure revenue, and then you pay yourself something like 70K, you're going to get audited in two seconds because they're like, that's bull. You're trying to not pay your employment taxes. So when I saw this, I was like,

well, how would you get around that? It's ideological. Now if they come to you and be like, hey, man, that's not it at all. I believe in fair wages for all people, and I shouldn't be making that much money in a salary. But in profit, it's a different question. So I don't know how much money he actually saved by doing it. He did raise the salaries of everybody in his company, became a big star over it. Surprise, surprise, the dude's being accused.

Again, I think there's a strong possibility it's a false accusation. I'm not going to assume these are real claims just because the guy happens to be on the left. Yeah, all the raises he made kind of goes back to what Will was saying about kind versus nice. Because the raises could have just been

the veneer of kindness, but it was really just a nefarious niceness. And now it's blowing up in his face. I feel like that's so much of what the left is. I mean, I think this is what most people kind of feel, that it's performative, grifting. Maybe he did something good. It's like, all right.

But what was like, and I often say this about Trump too, is the reasoning behind it that important if they're actively doing something good because we have to speculate as to his reasoning but i think it's great that he's paying his staff more money i got an article from geek wire about this story he made according to you know whatever the documents that he made 950,000 in 2010 900,000 in 2011 but then when he went on tv he told him he made 50,000 in 2010, $900,000 in 2011. But then when he went on TV, he told him he made $50,000 in 2011, when he actually had made $900,000.

This was on January. And then this was with CNBC. Kelly Evans is when he told her, I made probably $50,000. Then he later came out and was like, oh, I misspoke. So I don't know if this guy's just full of it. He's just a creep. He's a classic male feminist right like literally archetypal male feminist you know using uh like woke politics and like bs because he

thinks that's what women want to hear and then when they say no all of a sudden the fangs come out dude he if he actually made 900 000 and told someone that he made $50,000, that's insanity. He's a psychotic person. Is he misleading? He's like, my salary was only, but he knows in the back of his mind he made $900,000 in profit. It's really disturbing that he made that. And he was like, let this be the last lie I ever tell. Apparently there were big problems when he did this too.

So what happened was, these are just stories that I heard. There were some employees that were making $70,000 a year because they were an accounts manager. And then there were some people who were in the mailroom who were getting hourly pay. All of a sudden, these mailroom people got bumped up to the same salaries as an accounts manager who saw no raise. And then they were just like, I've been here for how long and you gave them a $50,000 a year raise and I got nothing? And so I read, it's been a long time,

I could be wrong, but a bunch of people resigned saying it's deeply offensive that we would not receive more compensation. But the idea of a minimum wage meant they got nothing and the people of lower skill and lower time at the company,

lower seniority, got massive, like two or 300% raises. Yeah, I would actually be furious. It's brutal. It's a complete stunt if you're one of those people making, like, $70,000, $80,000 for a job that requires a college degree, and you have debts and things like that, and then he bumps up the intern or whatever, the entry-level job up to $70,000, and you're like, where's my raise? The argument was supposed to be that you're like where's my raise the argument was supposed to be that's like you shouldn't be mad that someone else is making more money that's what a lot the left was saying like what is it's not affecting you at all and it's like

you got to understand man when your company takes money from the budget and gives a raise to everyone but you that is like getting punched in the gut. That's crazy. And so the idea, but it's raised to a minimum. It's like, yeah, but like to hear that a coworker got a 500 or 300% raise and you got a zero,

it's not about 70K. It's not about a minimum. It's about you working hard and hoping to make more money to live a better life and he's not doing that for you. But everybody else, you are now,

it's almost like they got pushed to the minimum so people resigned you know apparently but hey look man i i don't care how he runs his business you know he can do whatever he wants congratulations he found a way to get a bunch of attention make a bunch of money yeah don't be a predator though that seemed yeah you know it's a good takeaway yeah maybe i object first and foremost to the predation. Yes. Right? It's like that. Hear, hear. It's like that Norm MacDonald joke.

It's like, you know, the worst thing about Bill Cosby. Somebody's like saying the worst thing about Bill Cosby is hypocrisy. And he's like, no, I thought the worst thing about Bill Cosby was, you know, the crimes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's a thing, man. So, you know, when I look at what there's a guy in here, seven years running the marketing company. That's a thing, man. So, you know, when I look at... Wait, there's a guy in here? Seven years running the marketing company? That's a man.

Well, this guy... Wait, I don't know. They're both doing that. That's a new man. Soft person. Yeah, so when I see people like Dan Price, I'm actually kind of like, okay, do your thing, man.

I'm not going to complain about a guy, how he runs his business. If he's getting attention for raising salaries, it's like, whatever, dude. I don't trust it, but I'm not here to rag on that you know what i mean if somebody wants to do their business that way it's you know just far be it for me you know but surprise surprise you know what i mean like drug raping a drugged victim is a crazy thing to be accused of yeah now i'll say this too innocent until proven guilty always because i i think i

think it could be false i mean look you're a powerful white man and you enter the woke fray to exploit it. I wonder if some of this stuff is they know he's grifting off them, so they destroy him. Not just his story, but other stories where they're like, as a possibility. It also may just be, dude, imagine being like made of cheese and then deciding to walk into a room full of mice. You know what I mean? Like imagine being a banana and walking to a monkey sanctuary. Look, I'm just going to go with his advice. I don't want to inflict trauma on his victims.

I'm just going to believe his accuser and leave it at that. That's such a sense of hubris to be like, I got this. I'll be fine. I'm a white guy, but I got this in the bag. As long as I pander to them, I'll be safe here. They should know, though, that so many heroes that they prop up, eventually it's like the new hero's journey. They end up falling.

They end up devouring themselves in the end, whether they did it or not. It's like Louis C.K. was one of them. A lot of people, whether it was it or not. It's like Louis C.K. was one of them. A lot of people, whether it was true or not. It's crazy. So we use Parallel Economy for TimCast. And this is co-founded by Dan Bongino. It's censorship resistant. Why would I use a company that hates me?

It's like you're the CEO of this company and you're like, I know. Let's pan to the people who explicitly hate me based on my race and my gender. And that's a good business move. That seems like really dumb. It seems, yeah, I know. Let's pan to the people who explicitly hate me based on my race and my gender. And that's a good business move. That seems like really dumb. It seems, yeah, very fragile. Based in fear. Yeah. I think.

Desperation tactic, if you were to do something like that, that'd be like using your slave owner's weapons to break out of slavery or something. Right. I don't know. But they only do that because that's their only option. If you have another option, you use the company that you have relations with. I really want to talk about feminism right now. Me too.

Me too. All right. You guys ready for this one? Get woke, go broke. IMDB tweets, ahem. Say it louder for the people in the back. She-Hulk, Tatiana Maslany. You guys ready for this clip?

It's from TikTok, but it's She-Hulk, Tatiana Maslany. You guys ready for this clip from the, it's from TikTok, but it's She-Hulk. Listen to this. Here's the thing, Bruce. I'm great at controlling my anger. I do it all the time. When I'm catcalled in the street, when incompetent men explain my own area of expertise to me, I do it pretty much every day because if I don't, I will get called emotional or difficult or I might just literally

get murdered. So I'm an expert at controlling my anger because I do it infinitely more than you. I love this clip for this face right here. I love that male feminist face. He's like, uh-huh. Hulk's a new male feminist.

Spoiler alerts. I don't know how many of you wanted to watch She-H like, uh-huh. Pulse a new male feminist. All right, all right. Spoiler alerts. I don't know how many of you wanted to watch She-Hulk, but I do. I love watching the Marvel stuff, even though when it's like, I didn't watch, I did

watch a bit of Ms. Marvel, and it was awful. It was just so awful. But we'll get to that in a second. So this clip's great. It's really, really

great, because as much as people are like mocking the clip, it is masterfully great. It's really, really great because as much as people are like mocking the clip, it is masterfully done. It is a work of art. It is so perfect that I was excited to see it. And the reason is

minutes before this scene, she is outside of a bar. We watched it before the show. I can explain it to you guys. And three guys are not even hollering, not cat calling like i we were shane i was asking you like is this hot so the guys come out and they're like hey what's your name and she goes i'm waiting for someone and it's like well let us keep you company because my boyfriend's gonna be here and it's like oh come on we're just being friendly she goes hulk's out and then gets ready to murder the dudes.

She like winds up and then Hulk stops her from doing it. And so I was, I was asking Shane, I was like, was that, was that even hollering?

Like catcalling is when you're like saying crude things. Below that. It's below that. It's working up to a pickup line, but not there yet. It wasn't even hollering. Hollering being like,

sup girl, why don't you come over here? They were just like, what's your name? Like, let us keep you company. And I'm like, it's almost hollering. So this is a parable about why women shouldn't have power. Yeah, bang, likes up. Girl, why don't you come over here? They were just like, what's your name? Like, let us keep you company. And I'm like, it's almost hollering. So this is a parable about why women shouldn't have power.

Yeah, basically. But this is why I think. No, no, no. Look, look, look. Clip that. The clip is perfect. There we go. We got it.

The clip is perfect. She almost murdered these dudes. She winds up for like a kick. And we know from the show, because they show her throwing boulders and smashing a cliff with her fists that a full force kick would have exploded these men. Here's what else we learn. In the show, when she

hulks out with Bruce, he tries to calm her down and he's like, calm, calm. And she goes, why are you talking to me like a child? And he goes, wait a minute. You're in there? And she goes, yes. And you learn that when Bruce goes Hulk, he loses his mind.

He becomes a rage monster. When she transforms, she's fully cognitive and lucid of what she's doing, which means when she's sitting there explaining to him that she can control her anger, she's lying. She's also a dangerous, violent psychopath. And immediately after this she says i control my anger every day and then she holds up and then she calms back down and so not only is she lying

about controlling her anger in two instances here she's she's she's lying like it's the perfect example of feminism exaggerating the claim lying about their ability to control it and then justifying that as why they're a victim brilliant if they say everything is misogyny like this entire program is just like secretly putting forward like actually yeah if you if you like i'm watching this and i see this clip going around and they're like say it for everyone in back and i'm like, but the context of it is that she's lying. Like, it's like three minutes before she says that she tries to murder some dude. And she's lucid.

She's aware she's doing it. I'm like, that's feminism. Nailed it. And if they define any type of word as violence, then you can match that with violence. So even them just approaching them saying, hey, what's up? That's violence. Dude, I really love this show already. She hulks the villain.

She's the bad guy. So I'll tell you something else. It's really good. In Spider-Man, why do we like Spider-Man? With great power comes great responsibility. Man, what a message for a little kid. Especially for those of us who want people to grow up to be responsible regardless of who they are what they do take some personal responsibility the story of spider-man you know if we if we'll use the movie reference he does

the wrestling match the dude refuses to pay him then the guy comes in and steals the money and as the burglar is running away the guy's like stop that man and spider-man's like i don't see how that's my problem but then that guy's he's running away is tries to steal a car and he robbed and he robs uncle ben and shoots and kills him and then spider-man is like if i just stopped the guy and took responsibility for my community my uncle would have lived and it's like a very sad message in this hulk desperately begs her to use her powers for good. And she outright refuses and says, no, it's my life and I'm going to follow my career. And he says, there's very few people who have the power. We do the ability to protect this planet. You have to do it. She goes, no, I don't. She beats the crap out of Hulk, destroys his bar. It actually is a funny scene. And then

they rebuild it together. And she goes, I'm leaving. He goes, fine. If you want to just be a small time lawyer, like I respect that she's like okay and then she leaves the point of the show is that she is not she is refusing responsibility for her powers i'm just like it's like what you're saying will if the real message was to insult feminism they nailed it right yeah like that's what that sounds like it sounds like kind of a stealth right you know refutation of it basically a critique of feminism as deeply selfish. Yeah. The Hulk originally was like a chaotic evil creature that was inside of Bruce Banner who was like a neutral good guy.

So it was destructive and unpredictable. So I think they've infused the chaotic evil character into the woman's psyche, inadvertently making her chaotic evil. You're saying Hulk was chaotic evil? Yeah. Bruce Banner would turn into this chaotic evil demon. Yeah. Basically, the Hulk was... He was chaotic neutral, right?

Yeah. Hulk was destructively evil and dangerous. What are you talking about? He lived off of... He was a rage monster. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he was the protagonist. Well, that was the cool thing about it was he was an evil protagonist.

He wasn't evil. Well, the Hulk itself was an evil creature that they had to keep. Everyone wanted to stop it whenever it would go. So he was always trying to stop it from appearing. But it was like the Hulk was just amoral rage, right? Like it was just he would do good things, he would do bad things. Well, anger isn't really amoral. I think anger is definitely immoral.

You can be angry at the anger you can be angry and injustice or you can be angry at things you just be angry like someone kicked my leg on accident and he'd break walls and they'd be like run but think about that for a second you're saying that a lawful good person can't be enraged because that would make them well that was the interesting thing about hawk is he was two people he bruce banner is like a good person and then the hawk was this evil thing that would come out of him and he'd be like no i gotta stop it but hulk wasn't evil he was an avenger the very original hulk was like this evil demon with no personality it was just a rage monster and then they kind of started to craft him and give him a personality hero or something or like yeah yeah yeah okay

that makes sense like because yeah i'm not really deeply familiar with like the universe so i've like i saw the Avengers. Yeah. Eventually they made Bruce the Hulk one person. That's my favorite version of the Hulk is when he has a mind. When he's like Buddhist. Yeah, yeah. He's chilling. I have some technical problems with this show.

I haven't seen it yet. But when she, in the beginning of the scene, she starts to tell him this emotional thing and looks away to the right as she's talking. That's really annoying to watch actors do that. It's kind of there. You see her look to the right. It's like she's trying to generate fake emotion, which she glances to the right as she's talking that's really annoying to watch actors do that it's kind of there you see her to look to the right it's like she's trying to generate fake emotion which he glances to the right right there it's really annoying like you

need a director to be like no look him in the eyes when you're talking well she's not looking at anybody's eyes she's supposed to be looking at bruce's eyes no no but like she's actually looking at a big x on a stick she might have bruce in front of him working they might be working a scene together she has to look up which means they would have bruce and he would have a stick coming off his back with a green circle on it, and she has to look at the two dots on the green circle. So she dropped the ball there, and then at the end, whoever wrote this script. This guy's just ragging on the acting of the film. And the writing.

To be fair. She says, I feel anger infinitely more than you. Infinite is not a multiplier. You can't multiply something by infinite. That's a zero. So it makes no sense. An illogical statement. Of course, Ian has an issue with the semantics of the statement. The lighting is good a multiplier. You can't multiply something by infinite. That's a zero. So it makes no sense. An illogical statement is very weird.

Of course, Ian has an issue with the semantics of the statement. The lighting's good, though. The lighting's pretty good. So Hulk's like her mentor throughout this? Is that the deal?

Well, he like kidnaps her. Kidnaps her? Oh, now I'm in. Because she almost murdered a dude. And so Hulk thinks it's because she's... That's going to be

Dan Price's defense. Yeah. Imagine him hitting on her sorry I had to choke her your honor Hulk thought that she was a rage monster like he was I'm surprised good writing would have been him being like wait a minute you're conscious right now

and he would have been like that means you tried to murder those guys like yo that's crazy then she just goes back to being a lawyer. It's like, first of all, you know, I said she was the villain, right? I mean, she's a lawyer.

Come on, you know? How much more villainous can you get? They didn't even make her selfish, too. I'm saying that because Will's here. Yeah. Lawyer. What percentage of lawyers do you think are good?

Oh, I mean, most of them, honestly. Like, most... Like, 51%? I don't know. But, like, most lawyers are good? Oh, I mean, most of them, honestly. Like 51%? I don't know. What's that? Most lawyers are trying to do good work and serve their clients. Now, maybe they're in a position where their clients are people you might find distasteful. But you don't get to pick your clients if you're in a big law firm, for example. I mean, I could have, for example, I had the choice.

Well, I had some choices, but my choices were uh bill cosby when i was working a big law and uh there was a guy who had a dirty money episode made after him for running a um a like payday lending scheme that the ftc sued him for a billion dollars over so like that that's those are the clients you represent because those are the clients if you work at a big law firm like and it's it's okay to not like those people but like i hate when people attack the lawyers for defending those people. And moreover, it's like, that is your job, right? I think, I don't know if you guys watch Better Call Saul. If you don't, you should.

Excellent show. But one of the, one of the big themes in one of the later seasons is how, you know, one of the protagonist lawyers is representing a bank client and then is also kind of like screwing over that client to help the little guys who the bank is adverse to. it's like there's like that's a bad lawyer that's a bad lawyer exactly and that's sort of the point that the show is making is it's like it's giving you first it kind of gives you the reason to sympathize with the lawyer and be like oh yeah you know she's working and trying to you know be robin hood here but you the longer it goes on the more you realize like no no she's actually doing she's the bad person here yeah because she is betraying her

client and like she eventually you know has to leave her firm and all that. I know there's a bunch of jokes about lawyers. Like I literally made one. There's, there's one I can't remember, but it's like a guy goes to hell and then he's like, you know, or it's like a guy sells his soul to the devil and then he goes to hell and he's like, I need a lawyer. And then everyone raises their hand or whatever the joke is. I don't know.

But I actually think most lawyers are good. I actually think the overwhelming majority. In my interactions, I have not actually experienced the stereotype of a bad lawyer. Yeah. I mean, most of them are doing their jobs and trying to help their clients. They're expensive because there's a cartel. Yeah. That's one reason.

And then they're, I mean, the worst are like- It's expensive to get barred and all that stuff, right? Yeah. No, I mean, law school is expensive. It's not just getting barred, right? You have to go to law school. And being good, it costs money. all that stuff, right? Yeah, I mean, law school is expensive. It's not just getting barred, right? You have to go to law school. And being good, it costs money. Is that the cartel?

Is it you got to go to the expensive school? You got to go to law school and then pass a bar exam, right? And both are usually a requirement in most states. So that's what, you know, I mean, people come out of law school, $150,000 in debt, and they put in three years of work. So it's like the starting pay to just even hire a lawyer is really high.

Not Kim Kardashian, though. In California, you don't need no bar? Well, I mean, in California, you don't need to go to law school. And I'm pretty sure Kim Kardashian went to law school. Okay. She did, yeah. That's good. But yeah, California has its own weird thing where you can not go to law school but pass the bar exam.

Or you can go to a non-accredited law school. It's kind of crazy how you go to law school to try and become proficient, but then you realize having a big butt makes you more money. You know what I mean? It's true. It's a plus. Yeah.

So it's crazy. On Instagram, there's like... I don't want to call anybody out, but there's these women who have... Let's say they do specific talents. They sing or they're skiers or snowboarders and then it's like i'll see the video of you know them doing their skill but then every other video is like you know busty cleavage showing or like booty shaking and stuff like that and those are the ones that get most of the views and it's like well duh you know

what i mean i wonder what's the point of even doing the other videos if like in the end you realize like where the, I'll tell you, I'll tell you a better story. There was this woman on YouTube. This was like six years ago. I was at YouTube. I was talking with Google people about this. She played guitar and she sang. Her videos would get a few thousand views.

If you go into her library, you'd see one day she went from like 2,000 to like 200,000 on her video views. And it was amazing. It's like, wow, she had her big break. She must have put out a really good song. And you know what the big difference was between the video before with low views and the video high with many views? Cleavage. Cleavage. She started wearing like bathing suit tops with her boobs on her guitar as she played

and then the views went through the roof. I find it unfortunate that the sex appeal has become a gateway drug to the true passion of these people. But it works because they know it. They tap into it. The second you post some cleavage, then they get more views. I wonder if it matters. I'm going to try it tomorrow.

Do it. Do it. Adele did not get big and famous through trying to be this sexy supermodel. Yeah, she's a big girl. Yeah. I mean, she lost a lot of weight. Yeah. But she's made really great music. And that worked.

I'm like, I genuinely don't know. Do these women feel lesser because it's not the skill or talent that got them there? It's the sex appeal? Or does it matter? It might be the competition on social media. Because it's like when people are mad at certain pop stars like Miley Cyrus or Billie Eilish, when they start out as one thing

and then they mutate into the sexy thing. I think it's the industry might be pressuring them. It could be social media. But people hate it or they love it because their kids who might have been with Hannah Montana are now with, you know, I mean, you got to wonder,

like you look at the Kardashians and like, do they care? I mean, like, isn't, I don't know which one's the billionaire one, like Kylie or whatever. One of them,

Kylie Jenner. Yeah. Kylie Jenner's, I think there's multiple billionaires in the, I think, but I think Kim is, I think she's like the youngest billionaire. Yeah.

Kylie Jenner is like the youngest. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, do you think she cares that people are going to be like, you got famous off your ass? They're going to be like, she's going to be like, I could buy you a thousand times. Her sister got famous with a sex tape, right?

Like, relative to her family, like, she's like, I was pretty conservative. But, you know, the other thing, too, is like, I was reading about, I think it's Kylie. I don't know a lot about the Jenners. But it's not just sex appeal that got her to be a billionaire. It's legit business stuff. I think they're also really smart. They're super smart. Yes.

That's what I was saying. Kim went to law school or whatever? She got mentored, I think is what it is. In California, you can be mentored but not go to law school but still have to pass the bar. Right. I don't think, but I don't know. You'd have to look it up if California actually has any requirement about going to law school to be barred. Almost every other state does.

That makes sense for California. I mean, I think probably it's risky, right? One, the bar exam's not that hard, frankly. And then two, there's a lot that you actually learn in the first year or two of law school. The third year is BS, and that's where it is. We've all seen Legally Blonde. Yeah, we get it. What's in the first year or two of law school the third year is bs and it's like that's where we've all seen legally blonde yeah yeah we get it what's in the third year uh the third year is like a bunch of electives that you don't need to take like basically and it's a way for the law school to make a little extra money off you like really the first two

years are what you need sounds like the lawyer should overtake that and just chop it down to two years well the lawyers don't care once they've graduated because it's keeping – their prices are already high and they're making money. It's just like once you're in the cartel, you don't have a reason to lower the bar and make it easier for other people to become lawyers. My experience with getting cast for the way you look is really an empty – I felt lousy. Whenever I was in Hollywood doing it, if I got a modeling job and they'd take pictures, I'd be like – I'd just feel empty afterwards. And especially when they start saying it and they're like we just want to promote your sex appeal ian you're so sexual want your sex i'm like god this this industry is missing the mark man you want good good acting good acting wait is this like a pro is that that's not a joke like you you you got modeling jobs in Los Angeles? I did, like... He's in more than one Super Bowl commercial?

I was in one Super Bowl commercial. It was an Orbit gum commercial. Okay. I did commercials. Did one TV show, Aliens in America. I did the pilot of that show. That was pretty fun. We launched that.

And then I did a little bit of photography modeling stuff. Is there not a painting downstairs of you ripped? Oh, yeah. We should bring it up here. Yeah, we should put it on the wall. It's like there's an eagle holding you. I'm going to be hard to place this with it. The glare might be too much of an issue.

The abs are too much. And I think an example of the emptiness as you see in the cosmetic surgery that they... I'm looking at it right now. Kylie Jenner has a cosmetic company. So it's like cosmetic. The way you look. That's the way she look. Of course.

The way you look, the way you hear, fake boobs, fake lips. That's the way she monetizes her Instagram is makeup. I don't – She loves makeup. That, in my experience, leads to emptiness on the inside. But, you know, it's a lot of money. So you kind of just pretend like it's okay. Well, my problem with – so as much as, like, in the culture war, they would call me right-wing,

I'm, like, particularly left, especially when it comes to these ultra wealthy people who use their money and just keep amassing and hoarding and amassing and hoarding. And they're not doing anything. That bums me out. I'm also fairly libertarian. So I'm like I'm not going to rag on them and force them to do anything with their money. I just kind of accept the fact that people make money and then they do whatever they want with it. And it's like, okay, well, I wish they would do more. The problem is maybe we're better off they don't because mackenzie bezos decided to do more with

jeff's money and then she funded a whole bunch of woke garbage so it's kind of like and maybe we'd be better off if she bought a yacht with an infinity pool instead of funding woke racist bs right just as useless like employ some people right like have yeah well the card one kardashian kim has a company where it's like, um, like underwear and stuff like that. And I've heard from a lot of different people that they love it. Like it's actually really good.

And she's got a lot of people she employs. So they're doing something and it's not, I don't want to knock on just a sex appeal because they are some of the ones that are the always knocked on for how they look, but they're doing something. It's funny. Cause people would always say like the Kardashians are famous for being famous. And you realize that means they're

some of the best marketers on the planet. They're really good at it. I think they have actually a very strong family life. You could say as unconventional as it is with Bruce becoming Caitlyn. From what I was told, Bruce was a fantastic father, like a stepfather to these girls.

And their mom is a brilliant woman. I've only seen the show in passing. My mom was a big fan of the show, actually, which was really weird because she doesn't watch that stuff at all. She's like, they're actually really, really smart people. Interesting. I think they're really good at shaping reality. I can never say how they really are a family, but they're good at making it look like they're good at family. Like Trump.

Like Trump. It's all just a facade. Oh, man. Trump endorsing those Democrats was... Shut the piss. Dying. Yeah, exactly. And then you saw that that woman took the bait, right?

Yulin Ngo is running against Goldman. And then I think it's Dan Goldman, right? Yeah. And then she was like, Trump just endorsed my opponent. And then people were like, why? And she's like, because he's trying to stop the left. And it's like, dude, she knows.

But she's like, unless these people are really that daft, man. But, you know, where would we be without Trump? Like, this would be a very boring reality. We would have Hillary Clinton. Hillary would probably still be the president. Libya for sure. We probably have invaded and had forces in syria yeah um wars everywhere the russian thing i don't know the ukrainian thing would probably still be happening

we wouldn't be talking about politics that's what we wouldn't be this wouldn't be a politics show if you were doing it still if trump wasn't here if trump hadn't been elected politics would have been so boring and depressing oh right right like because it would have been back to 2012 era uniparty. I disagree to a certain degree. We wouldn't be talking about electoral politics so much. We'd be talking about conflict, crisis, war, and things like that. Because that's what I was involved with covering. More grassroots activism stuff.

More cultural stuff. So we'd probably be talking. I'll put it this way the woke stuff would have been ramped up way faster uh we would have i look i i don't know exactly what would have happened with the pandemic but would have been way more extreme way harsher so i think politics would have happened to a certain degree no matter what but it would be like you said very uniparty establishment and it would not be pop culture so this show would probably exist we'd probably talk about it probably a lot smaller yeah like i mean it would just be

much more depressing because i remember i don't know if you felt this way but politics and like from during the obama era was depressing and it's not just because like obama was like bad or horrible it was because there was no distinction between him and Romney. Do you guys remember the debates between Obama and Romney? No. At some point, there was a foreign policy debate. It was the last debate of that presidential election. I remember it distinctly because I remember posting something like, I have

a Mormon drinking game, and the drinking game is drink whenever they articulate a difference on foreign policy. You'd stay sober. It was a debate where mitt romney did not disagree with anything obama said for an hour and a half they both agreed about uh bringing jobs back well no the economy stuff is where romney tried to distinguish himself and did an okay job in that second debate it was the one where he's like

oh i approve of what you're doing in libya that's a great idea oh i approve of this in syria yeah you're exactly right about the red line is Is this after the dog being on the car? Yeah, this is well after the dog being on the car. So yeah, it just would have been so boring. And I mean, I think, you know, I'm glad we had Trump for that reason, because now we really have two different parties. I've been thinking about Ukraine a lot. I want to know what you guys think about this is like right now what it looks like is that the american british french have like troops in ukraine on the front of russia it'd be like if russia had troops all along the western coast of california and blockaded all the sea access because basically

ukraine's blocking russia's access to the black sea so like if all of i don't know um let's just say mexico in the gulf yeah yeah or if they put a bunch of troops you know on the rio on the rio Black Sea. So like if all of I don't know let's just say Mexico and the Gulf. If they put a bunch of troops on the Rio Grande and then start blocking our access to the Gulf or something like that. Yeah, but it's like we'd have all of California except a very thin strip of land along the coast so that we had no coastal

access. It would be, no one would stand for that. It would be insane. A better way to put it is if Russia started putting troops in Mexico and Canada. Or Alaska. On our border. This is the crazy thing. You guys saw that video of what's it, Marin, the Finnish Prime Minister? Oh yeah, partying.

And she's like shaking it and bouncing it and all that stuff. You know, look, I don't care if someone wants to party, but as the Prime Minister, when you are facing nuclear deployment by Russia for joining NATO and you are on the deployment by Russia for joining NATO and you are on the border of this country and that's your prime minister. Like, I got no problem with people wanting to dance and have a good time.

I do have an issue with having a world leader who is acting more like a 16-year-old girl. Yeah, come on. As opposed to a near 40-year-old woman. I think it's a function of the fact that the EU has basically swamped the major functions of most of these sovereigns. And so you end up with these very ridiculous... You get enough with some ridiculous

leaders in some of these countries. And you compare that... Actually, this is a weird analogy. Finland is a vassal state for the EU. Yeah, for the EU. You know, something about Israel that's really interesting, if you actually look at the pictures of their politicians and their leaders, they're never smiling. Really? They're never, ever smiling.

They're very serious. They're very, very serious because that's sort of like that's the political ethos of Israel. Like you're constantly defending against a bunch of grunge who are surrounding you. And you look at American politicians, complete reverse, right? American politicians are always smiling in their profiles. Have you ever looked at like the evolution of the smile in presidential portraits over the years? It's really funny. I forget where it turns. The George Washington frump?

He's stoned, dude. There's a distinct moment where presidents start to smile. I forget where that is. It might be around Nixon or something. And then it's full on, big smile. We need Trump when he wins in 2025 to just go like full grimace like,

I'm coming for your deep state. Right. Right. Dark Maga. I don't like Dark Maga. I'm not a big, I mean, I definitely don't support invasion, Russia's invasion of Ukraine. I'm not a big, but I understand why they did. And I think it's purely to have sea access.

Because if Russia had blocked off Alaskan, Western, all the coast, and just that was Russia, and we couldn't get boats out? It would be, come on, you don't even have a state if you don't have the sea access. You are correct. The Black Sea is their only warm water port. They use that for access to the Mediterranean. The reason why Syria is an important ally is because they have the military base in Tartus. So the actions the U.S. was taking to put a pipeline through Syria and opposing the Assad regime was a direct

threat to Russia's naval base than with Ukraine wanting to go towards the EU. So this is really interesting, man. The politics are really interesting. The EU offered them money with contingencies. Russia offered them money with different contingencies. Russia seems to have, according to some arguments, a kind of better deal. But Ukrainians don't like Russia for a very obvious reason. Do you know what that reason is? It's the Holodomor. And so when I went there and talked to people, they said, even if the deal is not as good with the EU, we want Schengen's own access. So this seems better for us.

This was a huge threat to Russia because they knew they would lose Crimea where they had a base and their only access to the warm water, the Black Sea warm water port. So, of course, Russia then goes in and basically takes Crimea. The West at the time was very much in favor of the ongoing revolution or whatever you want to call it, the revolt against Yanukovych. Russia viewed that as to the outside world in the news, it was a protest. It was people protesting and declaring a new government. In reality, it was NATO influence, EU influence versus the Russian, the expansion of Russia and their desire for a trade federation. Some say Putin wanted to bring back the Soviet Union in some capacity or just outright.

So this has always been a deeper political conflict that's bubbling up to war except for when donald trump got elected and everything started to simmer down and calm down isis was defeated things started to stabilize a bit in the middle east it wasn't all perfect i mean there was missile strikes in assyria that was the saudi arabian yemen but russia was backing off until joe biden comes back and then russia ramps everything back up because putin knew joe biden and the uniparty regime the establishment was going to try and destabilize the region and gain more power control and expand the crazy thing about nato its purpose is resisting the soviet union the soviet union doesn't exist anymore you have the remnants

in russia but but NATO keeps expanding. It is a rapid military expansion now taking in Sweden and Finland. And that is, whether you like it or not, whether it's good or bad for America, a direct threat to many countries in that region. And if you're worried, if you look at the expansion of the Soviet Union, if you look at the expansion into Vietnam, this is one of the reasons the U.S. wanted to get involved, stop the communist expansion, the Korean War. We understand why militaristic expansion is a bad thing. Once the Soviets

collapse, the U.S. ramps it up. When there's no direct threat, of course Russia's going to lose their mind. Now you got China doing these joint military drills. And I'll tell you, man, people like Biden, I think they revel in it. I think they want it. I think their attitude is, you know, it's like that famous story about the Napoleonic Wars. Someone ran horseback to England and said, Napoleon won. The stocks all collapsed and they bought it all up. And they're like, actually, he lost. And then the stocks spiked back up and now they bought them all again. Catastrophe is great for people who want to exploit the crisis.

It's great for the war machine. I think they know it. I think they're thinking oil profits, more control, more access, more expansion. Be damned whoever gets killed because of it. I hope people don't conflate the Russian people with communism anymore, just like the Chinese people with communism, because the CCP is in control of that country. It's basically occupying China.

And the Soviet communist dictatorship was occupying the Russian people for 100 years. They're gone now. Communism lost. But the Uniparty has a stranglehold over the American people who overwhelmingly reject the wars that we have been engaging in. It's remarkable. If you look at the polls, it's like, do you want war? It's like 87%. No war.

Yet we keep finding ourselves entangled in them. It's because we are subjugated by the uniparty that will go to war no matter what you want, and they'll do it without congressional authority like they're supposed to get, except for Donald Trump. So a lot of people complain about Trump's increasing the drone strikes. I think it's bad, but you take a look at the fact that he was withdrawing our troops, that he was negotiating peace deals in the Middle East. He was negotiating peace deals in North Korea. And in exchange, you basically got our troops coming back, but drone strikes increasing in some areas. And it's not even Obama, I still think, had more drone strikes.

Three every hour, every day for a whole year in 2015. Plus the expansion of Luke Rukowski was explaining Trump made them secretive, though. We don't know how many he is. That's also true. And he also gave control of it to his generals so that he wasn't even calling the shots anymore. I mean, maybe I'm the contrarian here in a weird way, but I'm sort of, along these lines,

do you want Trump to not crush ISIS in Syria? No, I agree with you. Yeah. The issue is we want to get our troops out. We don't want to be this expansionist military state. But that means if you look at Afghanistan, you can't just snap your fingers and leave. Now, Ron Paul had a great statement. He says if you're given the wrong medication, you don't stay on it.

You've got to get off of it. I agree. But you've also got to get off of it slowly depending on what it is. You can't just cut cold turkey. Right. And I also think about the counterfactual. I think Peter Thal made this point people would criticize him for palantir and the company that you know like what his name yeah it's a i mean it's a heck of a it's like middle earth i

think yeah it was a drying mechanism there's yeah but they would drive you insane slowly because sauron was peering into your soul as you used it right that's what he named his company and so like he's supposed to be this libertarian and they're getting on him for setting up this surveillance software that really helps the federal government track terrorists and things like that. But Thiel made this argument. He's like, do you think civil liberties would be better in a world where there's another 9-11,

or do you think they will be worse? And so I think the counterfactual here is if you don't have sufficient drone strikes to stop terrorism, to deter, and to stop attacks here, do you think – and in a world where there is an attack here, what do you think the end outcome of that will be? Like if you want to keep us out of war, then the argument goes then you need some sort of like low-level deterrence and like what's the incapacitation of certain people. And I agree only so far as the invasion was wrong in the first place. Right. But to get off of that, you can't just pull the troops out like Biden did with surrendering the Bagram Air Force Base and all that stuff. My attitude is like, I don't like

that we're in Afghanistan. Okay, how do we get out? Let's pull our people back and keep drones for security. And then slowly we can rescind it when the region remains stable with the Afghan National Security Forces. It's also the incompetence of some of those drone strikes that kills me. I understand we need drone strikes to wipe out some of the bad people. But when they kill the family for no reason. Of course. Let me sip this whiskey.

What's the difference between a – I might get in trouble on YouTube. Oh, boy. What's the difference between a children's hospital and a terror den, a terrorist HQ? The children's hospital got hit with a drone strike? I don't know. I just fly the drone. Oh, my God. That's terrible. That's terrible.

Not even a joke. That's an old joke, too. That's from the Obama era. Right. Well, yeah. Of course. The problem is people like terrorists or whoever will go into a hospital and use it as a human shield. They'll be like, hey, they'll be less likely to bomb me if I'm in here.

And they'll be firing anti-aircraft from the hospital. And you're like, well, now what choice do I have? Even though we're not technically at war. That's basically the entire Israel-Palestine conflict. Right. Like that's the Palestinians. The Palestinians' grand strategy is to eventually get Israel to attack their human shields to the point that eventually the international community just comes down on Israel. Like Palestinians don't have any other strategy to victory. That is their intent.

That's why they use human shields. And I think like, you know, I'm not going to defend everything Israel does all the time. But when you bring that up, it's like they attack you as if you're some kind of like zionist who's it's like dude they're they're putting rocket they're launching rockets out of schools yeah like come on the other thing that's crazy about the drone stuff is just how dystopian it is to live in a place where they're constantly in the sky like bombing your land i worked i was a furniture mover for like 10 years and we'd get like prayer rugs uh from places all over the from the middle east and we started to see a lot of prayer rugs that had drones stitched into the the border of, and we started to see a lot of prayer rugs that had drones stitched

into the border of them. And it was just like a thing that would happen a lot. So it was just crazy how it affected just the people, normal people. I still understand why we need it, but it's also so insane that the sky is raining bombs constantly. That's true.

And I think we have to put it all in context. And my thing is, when you start from the position of, I And I think we have to put it all in context. And my thing is like, when you start from the position of, I don't think we should have been over there in the first place. The invasions were all really dumb and bad. Ron Paul had a great comment a long time ago about market reprisal. Al-Qaeda did it. We do surgical strikes under market reprisal, not declarations of war

against entire countries, deposing their governments. And so we end up in that. And I'm a little, I'm a kid. It's beyond my power and my involvement in politics. Now we want to get out. And that and I'm a kid it's beyond my power and my involvement in politics now we want to get out and that means I don't want American troops

on the corners occupying cities I think that's worse than sometimes a drone is flying overhead and it's being used to enforce security but I still think it's bad my ideal is that with Afghanistan Trump negotiated this withdrawal we slowly start pulling troops out but we make sure we're handing off security to the afghan

security forces and maintaining a light drone presence a little bit longer for security to back them up and logistics and then eventually we're gone and you got a stabilized country instead joe biden evacuates bagram in the middle of the night without telling the security forces looters come in then all of a sudden the telling the security forces. Looters come in. Then all of a sudden, the Afghan forces were caught off guard with no plan. And so instantly, the entire infrastructure is splattered. Taliban rushes in, wins. Civilians, American soldiers die.

That, I can only imagine, was intentional. The air support just evaporated, right? I read a good article about this. It was something about how the moment that when Biden withdrew, it wasn't the way that these remote outpost bases that the Afghan government was holding onto, they were all supported by air. They didn't have convoys go to them. They were supported by helicopter.

That's how they resupplied. And the moment that the the u.s air support fell apart it's like well the entire afghan army falls apart at that point because they were completely dependent on american contractors providing logistics they also biden told everyone like that he was gonna pull out on that day people knew that that was it that was the day they were planning on it so like the taliban saw it coming they were ready like that day they all rushed in because they were like, oh. And that's true.

He delayed it from Trump's original timeline. But the idea. To September 11th. Yeah. Some stupid, symbolic nonsense. Sorry to interrupt. No, no, no. I mean, that's it.

I mean, Trump brought the Taliban in and had negotiations with them about like how this is going to go down and how we're going to leave and what he expects of them in this move. And once he's out, they knew Biden. I think Biden did it on purpose. They saw the opportunity. Their assumption was probably like he's handing it over to us and now's our chance to take it. Didn't the corporate media rag on Trump for even having talks with Taliban? Yep. Didn't that happen too? Because he brought them to Camp David? Yeah.

Is that where we will? I don't know about that, if they went to Camp David. But yeah, I know the media got on it. Or they were going to. Maybe it never happened. How dare you negotiate with Kim Jong-un? How dare you negotiate with the Taliban? We hate peace.

It's like that Game of Thrones line. You only make peace with your enemies, right? Like, you know, wake up. It was Camp David. Yeah, I don't know if it ever actually panned out. I only make peace with your enemies. Wake up. It was Camp David. Yeah, I don't know if it ever actually panned out. I think it was going to happen, but it canceled it. But yeah, he had planned to bring them to Washington and to Camp David. I'm all about diplomacy, man.

Diplomacy first. But I don't know if that helps Raytheon's bottom line, if that's a part of the equation. Yeah, probably not. Or Caliburn's or Boeing's or Northrop Grumman. Can we still blow up bombs on other planets or in safe places? Got it. So they don't lose their bottom line? Let's all get Congress to pass a bill guaranteeing funding for all of these companies to fire the rockets at Mars.

To heat up the planet. Yeah. Right. To heat the planet up, kick some dust in the air, maybe melt some ice or something. Yes. Perfect. It'll stop the war here. They'll stop incentivizing the war machine

because they'll still be getting paid. We'll be learning how to do interplanetary bombing raids, which we'll probably use in the future. That's an Earth-first policy. That's right. Bomb the planets. That's right.

Let's talk about the apocalypse, my friends. We got this story from the New York Post. Billionaire Peter Thiel's $13.5 million dream home in New Zealand is doomed. It's been characterized as a doomsday bunker or you know emergency hideout there's been a bunch of billionaires that have been talking about the end of days and wanting to build something in this story actually it's i don't know if they have pictures it's really amazing i mean this is super

cool like it's like hidden the guys who designed the Olympics in Tokyo designed this. Wow. Why are they opposing this, actually? I mean, if you're talking about it's like a zoning dispute, isn't that very in harmony with the existing terrain? But a few years ago, I think there's a CNN article out there that says this exact area was becoming like a doomsday prepper paradise. It is. There's a lot of them out there. Matt Lauer's there. lauer's there yep yep millionaires and billionaires have first for the since like the

stories that are coming out in like 2017 after trump gets elected millionaires and billionaires and i'm talking about like high level millionaires not like somebody's got like 10 million but somebody's worth like 750 they're building emergency bunkers in new zealand they've got one of the craziest stories I read is that they carved out mountains with landing strips

so you can fly into the mountain to land like in Kingsman you guys see Kingsman when they land in the mountain

so it's like the bad guy wants to kill everybody because the planet's overheating it's basically like a Bill Gates who started a tech company

scope X and then he's like he's got a list, but he's like, the planet is heating up, and so it's going to create a virus, which is climate change, and it's going to kill everybody. And so he wants to force, he wants to kill everybody to stop that from happening.

He's like, okay. So anyway, like, they land their planes in this mountain. That's, I've read stories about that. Also, you take a look at, like, Montanning, Montanning, Montana, Wyoming. That's cool. Tanning spot in Montana. It at like Montana, Wyoming. That's cool. Tanning spot in Montana. It's one state.

Someone's about to incorporate right now. Wyoming. Wyoming. No, we don't need to reduce. We need to make more states. There needs to be East and West Wyoming. We need more Republican senators. Yeah, we should split West Virginia into East West Virginia and West West Virginia.

Southeast Virginia. Southeast Virginia. So anyway, I did this as my 4 p.m. segment, but my question to you guys is we'll expand this conversation. Are the millionaires and the billionaires, are they building this stuff because they know something we don't? Or is it because they got money to kick around and they said, why not? I think some might, but there's also lots of people with lots of money buying places on the coast and they're also telling us the coasts are going to flood soon.

So maybe some do, maybe some don't. It's hard to tell. It's like a weird type of insurance policy. I don't think Teal is necessarily a giant techno-pessimist. He does a lot of other things. He's funding senators and he does a lot of other things, right? He's funding senators and he has a lot of different projects,

but, or Senate races rather. But it's, I mean, this strikes me as the kind of thing that's like, okay, it's the same reason some of these people get dual citizenship and like St. Kitts and Nevis or something. Exactly. Yeah. He's a New Zealand citizen now. Right. So it's like, you just, it's just a backup.

Like, okay, you know, things could get bad. Right. I don't think he has a huge – That's the question. That's what I'm saying, right? So you got a rich dude. Peter Thiel is worth $7.7 billion reportedly. And so you got that much money, okay?

It's going to cost you $13 million out of his $7.7 billion? Dude, he farts that much money. Yeah, that's a hell yes in my book. Yeah, so he's probably like, I got to buy some. Hey, Bill, set up a company and build me this thing in New Zealand. Yeah, I mean a hell yes in my book. Yeah, so he's probably like, I got to buy some. Hey, Bill, set up a company and build me this thing in New Zealand.

Yeah, I mean, you think about that, right? Like you can, you're making, you know, if he's got a billion, investments are going to make like what,

8% a year generally. So you're thinking, he just can screw around and play with a 5% of his net worth every year. Okay, well, 7.7 billion, do the math,

5, you know, 5% of 7 billion is what? But don't even, I'm not even, who even cares about growth? 350 million? At 7.7 billion, do the math, 5% of 7 billion is what? But who even cares about growth? 350 million? At 7.7 billion, you don't have to work for multiple generations. Your kids are going to have to work. Yeah, so this is just play money, right?

That's why he's thinking about having a meditation space in a doomsday bunker. That's a real luxury. That's the last thing I'd be thinking about in my doomsday bunker. It's a very, very small, very trivial insurance policy for the hedging against the collapse of the United States or the United States becoming particularly inhospitable. Look at the view. Is this an actual picture from his— I think it's a mock-up. It's so beautiful.

If the view is anything like that, then that's better than just an insurance policy. It's a vacation home. Are you safe from their prime minister, though, even out there in New Zealand? Because she's like the worst. How does that work? How rich do you have to be to be off the prime minister's radar? I don't know with her. No, it doesn't work that way, man.

You're stuck. I can't remember who we had on the show talking about how wealth is meaningless in an apocalypse. So you think you own something? Why? So like anybody who owns a house knows this. Why do you own the house? Because someone wrote on knows this why do you own the house because someone wrote on a piece of paper you own the house good luck when some something like a group of dudes like five guys with shaved heads and ars walk up and say get out it's my house and you go

but but i have the paper and they go that's funny i have the gun so when the apocalypse happens and there's nobody to call he can set this up that's great's great. And then he can be like, I'm rich, and I'm a billionaire, and I have this bunker. And the prime minister, that crazy lady, can show up with one guy who's got one gun, and be like, it's ours now. And unless he's got a way to defend himself, that's in an apocalypse when everything breaks down. Your deed doesn't mean anything. What you can defend is all that matters. And guess what?

Someone as rich as Peter Thiel, his net worth will drop to about $500,000 when an apocalypse happens because his stocks, his investments, all that evaporate overnight. If there's a global governmental crisis or collapse

and war breaks out, we've not seen something to this extent. Even in major wars, you'll still have international assets. Somebody from Britain can put assets in Switzerland and all that kind of stuff. It's probably why Switzerland loved being neutral and people loved that they were. But if we actually had a total global breakdown of international treaties and stuff, his net worth is what he can hold in his hands. Who trusts him and who's going to back him up.

That's a big part of it. Maybe crypto. That's why you try and buy a place in New Zealand. You think New Zealand... I mean, New Zealand is super remote, right? Like the nearest place you can fly to is Australia and it's a three or four hour flight across. It's thousands of miles.

Yeah. And maybe he's banking in the apocalypse. The prime minister just means nothing anyway. Right. Like, so he's just, okay, yeah, I'll go to my... And I think the odds of a universal global apocalypse seem low, right? I think, again, you're hedging against a United States collapse. Right.

You know. Yeah, man. St. Kitts and Nevis, I think it costs 50 grand to be a citizen. Wow. Yeah, there's different, like, small Caribbean countries that, like, have. I think St. Kitts and Nevis is, like, the biggest one. And the rich people love that island because their passports are better than the American passport. Because it's an island nation of, like, no consequence. So their passports are better than the American passport. It's an island nation of no

consequence, so their passports are basically accepted everywhere. Every country knows you're a rich dude who's just going to come and spend money in your country. They're like, whatever. I've never actually researched this, but I've had friends tell me about people that you go there, you give them 50 grand and they hand you your passport. You're a

citizen. Do you guys have dual citizenship or multi-citizens i have dual citizenship where's it uh germany oh really when you get yeah uh so i'm half jewish right and my grandmother had to leave germany in uh i don't remember i forget is it 38 i think she left really very late um and so the german government has a program for people who, in their view, would have been born in Germany or would have been German descendants but for the Nazis that they can apply for German citizenship for relatively cheap, like a couple grand or something. There's actually a bunch of countries that do things like that regardless of displacement. Like if you are the grand son or daughter of someone who is a citizen who like emigrated you can apply and right so i think i think in south korea you can get a b visa if you're the grand son or daughter of some of a korean citizen yeah my wife could do that with greece because her dad's from greece so she hasn't

but she could well i mean yeah that's her dad it's like that that's that feels kind of like it should be that closer yeah but even a grandparent I kind of feel like is an exception. Yeah, right. My grandmother was a German citizen before she fled, right? So, you know, that's – and I mean, honestly, it's not really that valuable in the sense of – I mean, when I go to Europe, I get to go through the short line if I have my passport with me. Yeah. Conceivably, if I wanted to go work in the EU, that would be – Other countries, though, like what about Iran?

I don't know. It might be easier for countries that have a particularly hostile relationship with the United States. I think German passports can get into Iran when United States passports can't. What was the story with your grandma bailing? She was full Jewish in 1938, Nazi Germany.

Their family had plenty of... I actually don't know the story of exactly how she got out, but I assume it's one of those, like, she managed to cross the border or she flew. I think it's 38. It might be 36, but I think 38. I'll check with my mom. But, yeah, I mean, it's a simple...

That's actually not an uncommon story where her family at the time had businesses and a reasonable amount of money, and they just abandoned it all, showed up penniless in the United States. This is just before the war. Yeah. Was she there for Kristallnacht? I would think so.

That was in 38. Yeah, I would think so. I think that that's... And maybe that was like a, hey, maybe we should get out of here kind of moment. Right, yeah. She would have been only about 20, right? Wow. She was pretty young. i think she was born in like 19

1919 maybe um so she would have been very young but she uh yeah or maybe even younger it was uh it was kristallnacht was november was 9th and 10th of november 1938 okay so maybe before that then i don't know but like i know that she got out pretty late and uh it was you know that's still you know and i still like it's funny i meant essentially i think most of that generation of my family has passed at this point this is this is the crazy thing right your your grandmother got out before the these violent attacks and stuff like that i think so and i wonder you know i don't want to compare what's happening in the united States directly to a lot of these other countries and other historical moments because history doesn't repeat its rhymes. But I wonder if looking at the summer of love with around 30 deaths, billions of dollars in damage and mass rioting from far-left ideological extremists, I don't think is as bad as what this was.

This was seriously crazy. But I'm wondering if we're getting to that point where people are going to start being like, hey, maybe we should move from here. And I'll put it this way. I left New York to South Jersey, left South Jersey to West Virginia because seeing the increasing violence for people who are in Germany. Germany is a lot smaller than the United States. In the United States, if you're watching crises happen in your cities, you can go to the country to get away from it. But I'm kind of wondering, you know, with the trajectory we're on right now, this is the crazy thing, right? Report from Real Clear Investigations, the FBI team that led the raid on Trump's house was the same team that led the Russia collusion investigation, the hoax. So this sounds like, this sounds outright like a rogue conspiracy or

something like that. And now, you know, with this viral clip from this show, Dan Bongino was posting it. We had Derek Harvian who mentioned that, you know, Trump viral clip from this show dan bongino was posting it we had derrick harvion who mentioned that you know trump declassified crossfire hurricane he probably brought copies of the documents with him they went to get it back because they don't want to expose or something like that and it was the team that did it that went to his house to take it this all makes sense they come to his house and say you better lock this up lock it better he does then the fbi comes back and breaks the lock. Different group of FBI agents.

It sounds like we're at the point where there's different factions in the FBI that are fighting each other. A poll just came out that a majority of the people in this country feel that an element of the FBI is acting as Joe Biden's personal Gestapo. You said that was a poll. What's the poll? I was it. Let me let we we have it. Examiner says majority see FBI as Biden's personal Gestapo after Trump raid. This is the examiner. This is not some, you know, this is crazy.

It's a Rasmussen survey. Fifty three percent of likely voters agree. There's a group of politicized thugs, the top of the FBI that are using the fbi as joe biden's personal gestapo like this is a civil war i saw them as gestapo when they raided veritas right like that's insane this is this is the the breakdown this is the culture war reaching the highest levels of government that i was told would never happen so when you hear like i like i mentioned when you hear that the FBI told Trump's people to secure these documents with a padlock, and they do, and then a few months later come in and smash the padlock, it makes no sense unless you point out, unless the reality is it was a different

group of FBI agents who did it. And I had someone reach out to me claiming to be a retired agent who said, you're exactly right. There may be, there is leadership, there is leadership at the top, but different, you know, managers or, you know, supervisors in different field offices. In different interests. I'm sure, exactly. They're going to be doing things against each other's interests. Yeah, I think, well, I was actually looking into this

because, you know, a lot of people were starting to talk about defunding the FBI. And I was like, I was actually thinking about what could a president do with just an executive order? Abolish it. They could do a lot. The FBI doesn't have like an explicit – much in the way of explicit delegated authority from Congress. It actually is delegated to the attorney general who then has like the right to appoint officials.

But the FBI is sort of like implicitly – it's not actually like mandated by Congress in the same way that other law enforcement agencies are. And so theoretically, like a president and an attorney general could essentially just make it an executive order. That's like the FBI only does the things that is very specifically mandated to do by Congress, like trap serial killers and everything else. Is that mandated by Congress? There's like certain specific statutes that mandate things that the FBI should handle, but they're like narrow. But does Congress prescribe through statutory law the maintenance of the FBI? No. I read –

Or it might fund it, but that's different from saying – From – So basically you could basically strip the FBI of authority even if you didn't strip it of funding. There's a meme that's going around that Trump could sign an executive order disbanding it outright because it's got no congressional authority into its existence that it was created by executive order or something like that. Yeah, I think, I mean, I'm not sure. But I just, I'm pretty confident, though, about the ability of the president to just kind of decide to, you know, say, okay, guess what, FBI? Like, on day one, you're not doing counterintelligence anymore right like done you don't have you don't have any

access to it i'm allocating that authority to other intelligence agencies oh wow it was linked to prohibition that's where it started huh that sounds right there's there's a lot of i mean i think prohibition is one of the big things bank robberies when bank robberies were a big deal that was like a big uh trigger for i think it was that was like more like when bank robberies were a big deal, that was a big trigger for – I think that was more like when the FBI really got a lot of its expansion because one of the problems that – it was a huge problem in the Midwest where you have all these states that are pretty small. And think about something like Kansas City where it's across the border in Kansas and Missouri. So you'd have bank robbers constantly robbing a bank in Kansas and then crossing the border to Missouri and not getting prosecuted. Right. Roosevelt did start – kind of start in early form of the FBI after Kinley was assassinated. It's interesting how it evolved into existence.

It wasn't outright created. So when you look at the history of the FBI, it talks about the National Bureau of Criminal Identification, which eventually evolves into the Bureau of Investigation, which eventually evolves into the Federal Bureau of Investigation. It's interesting. And there was, this is interesting. It says there were fears the new agency would serve as secret police, as a secret police department.

Again, at Roosevelt's urging, Bonaparte moved to organize a formal Bureau of Investigation, which would then have its own staff of special agents. Yeah, this was, yeah, this was Teddy Roosevelt. I think I'm literally just started a book about this because I was interested. Teddy Roosevelt was annoyed with, essentially, environmental issues, actually, oddly enough. Progressive. Yeah. Conservative. Pretty progressive.

He didn't like some big corporate interest screwing up the environment in certain states and getting away with it. Gave us national parks. Yeah. This is crazy. It was created by the Attorney General. He just one day brought in people and said, report to the chief examiner as investigators. And then they gave a name to the group, the Bureau of Investigation. And then in 1935, they renamed it the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

That's it. In which case, the executive branch could just literally be like, you're gone. Yeah, or just reroute it, basically. I mean, there might be other laws or other statutes that are, like, funding the FBI or essentially the civil service rules that protect the people there. Okay, that's all fine, but you could

just strip it of authority and tell them all to go play bridge. Like, you know. Not go kidnap a governor. Yeah, right. Yeah, all that, you can stop doing that. My animal brain, my lizard brain has a hard time with the idea of erasing the FBI because it's been with me my whole life. So I'm like, wouldn't that cause chaos if we don't have an FBI?

You need to replace certain of its functions for sure. This is not like get rid of having a sort of federal police force. There are things you need, a federal police force, or when it comes to enforcing federal law, yes, okay. But one thing I joked about was you just create a new federal justice bureau a federal police force or when it comes to enforcing federal law yes okay but i mean one thing i i joked about was you just create a a new federal justice bureau you know think about what the acronym is fjb fjb right agreed just for that reason we do it right a new federal justice duplicates the functions of the fbi but you just make all the current fbi officials like reapply

for their jobs right that would be jobs. There's a lot of clever things you could do, given the fact that the institution doesn't have that much statutory protection. How amazing would it be if Donald Trump gets re-elected, and then immediately following his inauguration and swearing in, he does an

address where he's like, my fellow Americans, you may remember a few years ago when the FBI came into my home. It was terrible, terrible. Everyone says it was one of the most terrible things. I am signing a ticket of order. There is no more FBI. It would be hilarious. I'd be stoked.

I'd be stoked. He's got only one term. He can't get reelected. He's not going to care. He's like, do something. I understand the need for it, though. I do. I get it. But this has got to go. is oh yeah there needs to be like radical change oh my goodness like it and it's just a corrupt it's right now the institution itself is really corrupt what president started the cia um but whichever one did after jfk was assassinated i believe that president wrote a letter like an op-ed saying we got to disband the cia because he was convinced

i scatter it to the wind he CIA. Because he was convinced. He was convinced they had something to do with it. Harry Truman, 1947. He created it after JFK was assassinated. Then he wrote a letter saying we've got to disband the CIA. And then the head of the CIA went and visited Truman and said, you've got to not say that. And he was like, nah, I'm saying it.

Wait, hold on. So Truman created it. And then after JFK died, he wrote a letter saying. An op-ed or something saying, I think they got too much power. Wow. That's not what I intended. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah.

Interesting. I don't know, but I think the CIA certainly does have its fingers in some bad stuff, like a lot of bad stuff, actually. But domestically, it sounds like it's mostly the FBI. Yeah, the FBI. Right. The other unique thing you could do is you know we are kind of unique among western countries and that we have both the same institution handles both like federal policing and counterintelligence and those are not norm

those are not necessarily like combined functions right one is like detecting spies and like thwarting foreign intelligence efforts and the other is like just federal police work right like you know investigating crimes and helping the doj prosecute if if donald trump is going to get rid of the the fbi i just he's got to preserve the x files and make sure that they're the one thing isn't the x files real though like it's an actual it was an actual like that's how the show was based off of like the filing they would do for things they couldn't explain not like any agents actually like aliens are among us but they're like, we don't know how this happened. This is crazy.

Well, if people out there have watched the latest episode of Tales from the Inverted World, they would have seen the letter I wrote to President Carter, me demanding transparency of, you know, when he was on the campaign trail, he promised to release all UFO documents because Carter saw UFO in Georgia. And then he talked about it extensively in the campaign trail, promising this. And the second he got into office, like most politicians do, he backpedaled and didn't release anything because of national security.

But I'm still trying to hit him up. I think they were drone programs. A lot of what people were told were alien or just... Whether or not they have fusion packs on board, I wonder. And that's what I tell them, actually. It could be extraterrestrials. It could be our military. It is totally

fictional, but I remember reading, just want to clarify that, I remember reading something that it was like the idea of the show came from something that was really within the FBI. Yeah, Air Force. I just saw an article, was there a real-life version of the X-Files? The answer is yes, and it was part of the Air Force. Alex

Hollings, let me see if I can find the exact thing about this. Who says it's false? Wikipedia. No, it says it's fictional. That's FBI, yeah. But that's a thing. It says it's a fictional case deemed unsolvable by the FBI. I read somewhere that the show was inspired by something that,

it's not literally the X-Files, but somebody was reading about how the FBI couldn't solve something, and they're like, oh, we should do a show like that and call it something. Well, they have certainly done experiments like the remote viewing stuff where they'd sit the cops in a room or just bring people. I believe it was FBI. Well, you know about the men who stare at goats. I haven't seen it, but yeah, I know about it.

Well, I would. It's based on. Right, right, right. Yeah. The Stargate program. Were they drugging them up? Remote viewing? Yeah.

What's the goats? So weird. Do they actually stare at goats? Weren't they trying to explode them or something? Oh, I don't know about that. I think they were trying to use telekinesis to kill goats. I'm not sure. I read about this.

But yeah, the US people, like, yo, bro, we were talking about some crazy stuff downstairs, like CIA masks, like these super high-tech mission impossible kind of masks they have. Yep. The heart attack gun. Yep have yep the the heart attack gun yep bro the heart attack gun is real oh yeah let me pull this up oh it's hilarious you can go and there was a great channel on youtube i think they nuked it it was called film archives and this person would upload great congressional hearings from the 50s 60s 70s 80s up until now actually and uh there was one with the heart attack gun they're kind of just passing around

the heart attack gun you're like oh so that so you shoot this at someone and give them a heart attack? Okay, all right. The CIA's heart attack gun. Yeah, all right. No doubt. No doubt. So if they had that in the 60s or 70s, what? Frozen shellfish toxin would enter the target's bloodstream and kill them in mere minutes.

But I kind of wonder, like, couldn't you just put, like, anything? Oh, my God, that's real. Yeah, that's real. Yeah, that's it. That's it. So the idea was back then, I guess, it was hard to detect the toxin. So if someone was shot by the dart, they would die and they'd be like, I don't know what happened. These days, I mean, there's so much stuff.

I was reading about certain vitamin mixtures that can cause cardiac arrest, heart attacks. And that when they did your blood test they would just see like potassium and sodium and stuff and be like i don't know but like we've way advanced the craziness of this i will say though if a a powerful intelligence agency wants to kill somebody it's really easy you get mugged yeah that's it yeah it's an easy way of covering it up so you're walking on the street right exactly that's just diabolic bro hav, Havana effect? Havana syndrome? Oh, the sound? Oh, is it sound?

Yeah. I wonder if they're microwave blasting people. Yeah, well, I mean, it's not sound, but it was affecting them. It was sonar or something that they're blasting into them. Well, we don't know if it's sonar. Yeah. What we know is that people were reporting hearing like a buzzing noise or a humming noise. Right.

And then they would get photosensitivity. They'd become like amnesiac. Like their memories would become screwed up. And that's nightmarish, dude. Oh, yeah. So if you start hearing a weird buzz and like don't just be like, that's nothing. You should just leave the room, I guess. Or what?

I don't know. There's no escape. No, you could do. I used to think about this. I think I've talked about this on the show. I'd have this fantasy. What if all of a sudden everyone on earth wanted to kill me? Like how long could I survive talked about this on the show, I'd have this fantasy, what if all of a sudden everyone on Earth wanted to kill me? How long could I survive?

In this room? Probably about seven seconds, because there's four of you guys. If I'm driving, I would take this crystal, it's in this room. The sword's there. There's the katana,

the Civil War era musket. Anywhere you are on Earth, you just meet the rainbow musket. It feels like an episode of Fortnite. Yeah, this is an episode, like an escape room, but we're trying to kill you. We're trying to drive people around.

What is the best weapon to pick up inside the podcast? The deep state. Probably the gun. So we're talking about... He's got a load of... I'd take a guitar. I think their purpose is to maintain stability. The meteorite guitar is pretty good.

And if they think that you're a threat to stability, then they'll start to take an eye on you. But if they think that you're helping them provide stability to the people of Earth, is that the plan? Dude, they will get you no matter what, even if you're an innocent bystander. I just think of when Hillary Clinton apologized to everyone for back in the day when we dosed people in Guatemala with syphilis. Just random people. We'll just get you just because we want to know what happens when syphilis goes through the human body without being treated. Or the same thing we did to Tuskegee. What's this Guatemala syphilis thing?

It's like an extension of the Tuskegee syphilis experiment. I pulled up the Sonic Weapon Wikipedia and they mentioned Havana syndrome. It caused hearing loss and other problems. They thought it was sonic attacks, but now more recent reports hypothesize microwave energy as the cause. Well, there's also a whole bunch of stuff about this being fake, right? Havana syndrome was- Like it was a mental thing. Yeah, it was like a psychosomatic. No, but- Well, there's also a whole bunch of stuff about this being fake, right? Havana syndrome was... Like it was a mental thing.

Yeah, it was like a psychosomatic. No, but... I think there's something there. The latest stuff that I read is there's way too many reports of it, that it's with the same symptoms, and it's isolated to location. So there's something there. I think I equate it to the sound because a few years ago, they were using those to get rid of riots.

They blast that like wave at people yeah yeah l rats l rats long range bro i the first time i ever encountered an l rad it was so freaky so i've been at tons of these protests and riots where they've used these what's an l rads or long range acoustic device okay so i'm in i'm in i think i'm in Anaheim. Three blocks down the road, I can see a line of police. All of a sudden, I hear, as if someone was standing right next to me, you must disperse. This is an illegal protest or an illegal demonstration. And then I was like, I turn, I'm like, what the?

And people are like, look, and you can see the LRAD on top of the vehicle. They also do this high-pitched thing at you, and it hurts, but it's not... If they wanted to, they could make your ears bleed. Crazy stuff. But I'll tell you, some of the craziest stuff I've ever read, I don't know how true this is,

that ultra-low frequencies are one of the reasons they think people report haunted houses. So that when you get hit by ultra-low frequencies, you can't interpret it as sound, but it hits your body in waves, which causes a sensation of someone being around you. It causes feelings of dread, heart rate increasing.

So people, maybe when they think they're seeing a ghost, it could be hit by ultra-low frequencies of energy rushing through them, crazy stuff like that. Interesting. Oh, yeah, I'm beginning to think that ghosts, as much as I love the idea, is a me thing and not a ghost thing. It's my interpretation.

It's probably both. It could be. I think that the human spirit is real and we have these magnetic fields, but also that the humans are experimenting by bombarding ourselves with radiation and low frequencies like HAARP, H-A-R-P. I don't know if you guys studied much of it. Oh, yeah. High altitude. I talked to some people you guys studied much of high altitude.

I talked to some people at harp for volume one of Inverted World. I thought they were killing the birds. It might be happening on accident. It's weird to think that ghosts are real and that we're interacting with ghosts. I want to clarify. I do think there are ghosts also because I grew up with one.

Very nonchalant. It was a good ghost. Blue-collar ghost. But also I think a lot of people see... What's wrong with white-collar ghosts? I hate white-collar ghosts. Why do you have to be so resentful of the wealthier middle-management ghosts? When you have a blue-collar ghost, what happens

is you wake up in the middle of the night with your plumbing fixed. When you get a white-collar ghost, they're just sitting there complaining about taxes and what's going on. They could do your taxes for you. Why are you so discriminatory, guys? No, I just didn't know them. I just didn't know them. They could provide you legal services.

I was in the middle of the woods. There wasn't a lot of white-collar ghosts. It would be a hilarious bit. A guy wakes up and he sees a ghost and he's like, who are you doing? And it's like, you're a taxid. He's like, ah! Yeah, that's funny. Ebenezer was probably visited by blue-collar, not so many.

And he had a white-collar ghost in Ebenezer. Bro, I know what ghosts are. Yeah. You want to know what ghosts are? Of course, let's do this. So do you know about M-theory? Mm-mm. Membrane theory?

I know a little bit about that. That the universe is a multidimensional folding fabric that moves through and it's all crazy-like? Okay, I only half know what I'm talking about, so I probably mishmashed crazy physics ideas to create some weird theory about ghosts. That's science. Think about it this way. If time is not linear, but if you expand out of,

like our perception of time being linear, but if you then zoom out above it and it's more of like this moving fabric. What if time is a cube? Perhaps. Sorry.

But imagine it this way. Let's shelf that. Because I was reading like membrane theory so you've got uh 1827 all right and there is some dude wearing 18 20 27 clothes and then somebody in 2016 walks into a building that was a historic building that was built in 1827. So the framing is all relatively similar. The floors are in the same places where the floors were, all that stuff. This person in 2016 walks into a room

and then all of a sudden sees a semi-transparent figure standing before him wearing clothes from the 1820s and for a brief moment looks at them and goes, and they go, what the, they run away screaming. I just saw a ghost. You know, it really happened. The fabric of time between that 100, almost 200 year gap brushed against each other. And very briefly, that man in 1820s clothes who saw the figure from the future screamed seeing a ghost.

They both thought each other were ghosts. Then that guy writes down, this house is demonic, it is haunted. That story gets passed down and people are like, whoa, a haunted house. Then the person in the future goes there and when the time intersects briefly, just for a flicker of a moment,

they both see each other and create the paradox. Two separate existences in two separate times folding into one another. Very briefly though. Briefly, right. Briefly. Right. And so this is why old buildings tend to be haunted. And so, like, if the building was knocked down and a different building was built, the floors would be in different places.

So the guy who's standing on the second floor would not appear to the same guy on the second floor because they've moved. Right. to the same guy on the second floor because they've moved. But if the building is the same building from the 1800s but remodeled and just reinforced over time, you would quite literally be standing in front of the person in the same physical space as time brushed past itself. This is like the ghost I grew up with because I grew up in a house that was built in the 1700s. And I think a lot of people died around that time as well in that house. But the ghost that I investigated for Inverted World year um he was i i shared his room you know i think and i think we just crossed paths because we were in like the same room the same kitchen and he i i think was just like he felt comfort living there with us because uh he lost his family and now here he here he was with us time cube what

is this i don't know i don't know is sweet. I didn't completely make this up. Because I remember when I did college debate, people would argue. This is like a response to anything on the affirmative when they had no idea. Instead, the affirmative would get up and argue for some policy change. And the negative would get up and be like, time is a cube. We concede. This is a guy who said that all modern science sciences

are participating in a worldwide conspiracy to teach lies by omitting his theories alleged truth that each day

actually consists of four days occurring simultaneously better I like it what does that even mean I don't think

anyone knows time is a cube when people people will give you their theories you gotta keep in mind that just cause one theory is right doesn't mean another theory isn't also right. Because I think a lot of these different scientific theories, they're arguing about which one's the right one. A lot of them are just explaining the system from different perspectives.

So a lot of them are correct. Like, string theory is probably real. Nassim-Haramans, Schwarz proton paper seems to be real as well. But they're different levels, different distances from the truth, so they look different coming into it. I think science is all wrong, and it always has been.

And what I mean by that is we think we know so much and we constantly prove ourselves wrong. So there's obviously a ton of stuff we clearly know, like we've been able to make glass bottles, mass-produce DVDs, build computers. We clearly understand very powerful scientific – powerful science. But when it comes to the abstract and theoretical stuff, we probably are getting almost all of it wrong.

Well, I mean, I don't know. I would say science is the whole art of knowing – essentially all science does is disprove things. Yeah, the scientific art of knowing. Essentially, all science does is disprove things. Yeah, the scientific method. Right. This is basic like Karl Popper and like what is a scientific statement. I mean, the idea is that science doesn't actually say anything is true. Well, so you guys want to know the secret to reality is that we shape it through our observation. I learned that from watching a documentary called The Secret.

All rich people know this. And the way it really works is you decide what's true and then find evidence to back it up and then assert it as truth. And that's how you successfully become a leftist. You can see the future. That's how you collapse a city.

If a baseball is flying towards you, the light reflecting off the baseball hits your eye before the baseball gets there. So you see it before it is there. You start to anticipate. Your brain doesn't process the information fast enough. Well, we perceive it as anticipation.

So you know where it's going to be, but you're actually seeing it before it gets there. And it's like 0.08 seconds. You can see into the future 0.08 seconds. So I think when people have like, when you ever go to talk to someone and you have like you get afraid right before you say it, then they react to the fear or if you're like brave right before you say it, they react to the bravery. That's how Ozymandias caught the bullet when

Silk Spectre 2 fired at him in his Antarctic laboratory. He saw the light faster. He hit it and caught it in his hand and that's how he survived. I think you're right about ghosts being trapped to locations because there's this phantom DNA experiment where they they'll put dna inside of a vacuum bombard it with photons and the photons start to spin around the dna as if it's there with it then they remove the dna from the vacuum the photons stay there as if the d the dna was still there for like two weeks

the photons will stay there and rotate and i wonder if that's just like an example of how long a ghost or a piece of energy could be bound to a spot. And like bones- I think time is a cube. Bones in a graveyard? I think that bones in a graveyard are like an anchor for energy like that, like ghost energy.

I think, you know, the reality is that there's a conspiracy to use fluoride to calcify our third eye. That's true. Because humans do have the ability to shape reality, but the global elites don't want the peasants to be able to. Don't get me started on our third world water system. It really is Friday night, isn't it?

They turn us into zombies. Yeah, exactly. I think you're right, dude. This is a real conspiracy theory. So the double-split experiment we've talked about before, and then there was another one someone brought up that was even crazier, but you guys are familiar with the double slit experiment, right? No.

I'll try to simplify it. They take a metal sheet, they put a slit in it, they fired electrons, and they got a particle pattern. Okay. Then they did two slits, and they fired electrons, and they got a wave pattern. And so they're like, okay, that's weird. Why are we getting a particle pattern like okay then they did two slits and they fired electrons and they got a wave pattern and so they're like okay uh that's weird why are we getting a wave pattern it should be a particle pattern let's measure which slit each electron is going through when they did they got a particle pattern again so what the hippie said was whoa like by looking at it

like all of a sudden it changed and what physicists said was our measurement procedure interfered with the process and we don't know why, which is the smarter reasoning. But so these people believe that human observation has the ability to shape reality. So you'll hear new age people talk about manifesting things like my friend Robbie who was like – So they're trans. They're what? Manifesting. Human observation has the power to shape reality. Sure, sure.

No, but they mean they mean it more literally than that so i'm trying to park my car in la at my friend robby south shadow robby yeah robby what's going on dude cool dude and he i was like yo rob i was he was like where are you at i'm like trying to find a parking space he goes oh bro manifest it yeah what are you waiting and i was like what and he's like bro manifest a parking spot i was like dude i can't manifest a parking spot not that attitude. So people believe that if you will it, it will happen. And that the reason why we've lost that ability is because the global elite started putting fluoride in the water so that it would calcify our pineal glands, which are our third eye that grant us the ability.

It's a beautifully absurd idea. I experimented with it. But it's fun, right? From like 2006 and 2007 I made YouTube videos about manifestation I was one of these hippie freaks Tim's talking about you're not now I was

I'm going to manifest a glass of water and I'd be sitting there thinking like water is in front of me, I'll fix that later water is in front of me, there's water and I'd just visualize and relax and empty my mind what would happen is someone would come in and they'd be like, hey, you want a glass of water? And I'd be

go, yeah. And I realized I'm not making things apparate out of nowhere. I'm affecting the human consciousness with my thoughts. Or sometimes people are nice. It's coincidence, you could call it. But I don't think there are coincidences in reality anymore. I do have to be honest, though've i've slowly stopped believing in some coincidences just

because the reality that we're in has become so absurd it doesn't feel like probability makes sense it's post-reality no just just like everything that's happened with uh trump and the way he behaves and the things that are happening it's like how is this probabilistic it should be so exceedingly rare but so many strange things are happening at once that it seems like we've won the lottery 10 times in a few years. Like Brian Stelter and Liz Cheney going out in the same week is like, come on. That's like winning the lottery twice in two days. But it really is.

And then people are saying it comes in threes. Now, why is that it comes in threes? We used to say that about deaths at the hospital. And people are saying that Sam Harris was the third. Sam Harris canceled himself with this insane statement. And it's like, that's actually a good point. Liz Cheney loses, Brian Seltzer gets fired, and Sam Harris implodes

on a show to insane virality. And then I'm thinking of all the technology we have right now. This is like winning the lottery, having access to electricity and TV and video. So that's not a coincidence. This is not a coincidence that these things are happening. This is intentional. We're creating.

I just wonder if sometimes the world is, the world I think is always absurd. Humans are always absurd and beautiful. And maybe now we're seeing all the coincidences because of all the information that we have access to. Maybe the weird things were always happening at the same time. I mean, there is obviously serious observation bias and things kind of, I mean, yeah. But that said, yeah, you're right. We live in an awesome world.

We're so lucky to have what we have. And it's also creating things that we wouldn't have ever anticipated. I'll let you guys in on a secret, though. That documentary, The Secret, have you ever seen it? No. I've heard about it. You gotta watch it.

It's from like the early 2000s or something like that 2007 2007 late 2000s and the secret is that all like powerful people throughout history believed in the concept of like manifestation is that what it is more or less yeah if you it's like like attracts like kind of idea so i will tell you this of the like the very successful and well-off people i know the majority of them really do believe they have magic powers and you think i'm exaggerating like bro i've sat down with famous actors and actresses and celebrities and they casually talk about their magic and then you look at these people and their wealth and success and i'm like my view is perhaps because you've had an easy life of wealth and success you assume you must have magic and it's actually malignant narcissism.

But these people actually believe – no, the reality is that they believe in their magic and that's granted them easy access and an easy life. And what I can accept about some of that is like, yeah, it really doesn't make sense how you got to this position. It's not like you worked really hard and earned it. It's like you went to the right place at the right time and then got chosen and all of a sudden you're successful and rich. It's like, well, the reality is you are a driven person who sought out opportunity and you had the talent and drive and passing that off as magic is just, you're kind of insulting yourself. Well, I mean, it's also a fake humility, right? Like you're saying, right, you're saying you didn't actually you know oh i

just you know i just i just got lucky i just happen to have these powers but but they're not saying they're lucky they're saying they will it into existence like that they choose what happens and it happens for them they choose to make money and then they get money and things like that it's like they have force powers i wonder if they think we all have access to that power if they're just using it better well that's a lot of them just say stuff like that. Like the calcification of the penelion, like the loss of access to the DMT sometimes people will say gives you less access to your magic.

I think it's simple. I think that idea of like a vision board, they say like put your goals on a board in your room and then every day you look at it and I'm like, you know the saying out of sight, out of mind,

well there's an inverse of that. If you're focused on it every day, it's not magic, it's just you're directing yourself. And yeah, you're not magic. It's just you're directing yourself. Staying focused. Yeah, you're staying focused. It's that simple. Well, here's a weird... I'll try to tell a story quickly, but it was Christmas Eve many years ago. I was going down to Times Square to see my wife,

and I was on the train reading a book. An old lady sat next to me. She wanted to see what book I was reading she was interested in. It was a Saul Bellow book. I had no idea who she was. I had just graduated from my writing program. I had no life. I had no money, nothing.

She's talking to me. It was great. We leave. She says goodbye. And she whispers in my ear, I'm Kurt Vonnegut's widow. And I love Kurt Vonnegut. And the only thing on my wall at the time was a quote from Kurt Vonnegut. I had that taped on my wall for a year.

And I had just graduated the writing program looking at that every day. And I just so happened to be on the train, something I never did really all that much because I was upstate to see my family. I was like, what are the odds that I just graduated this program thinking of Vonnegut this whole time and then his ex-wife is sitting next to me. I've had so much stuff in my life that's just been like that. It's bizarre. That it makes you, I think for a lot of people, if you haven't experienced that, then you're

less likely to be faithful or religious in some capacity. But for people, this is the funny thing. I talk to people who are really not religious and they never have stories like that. I ask them about it. And then you meet someone who's religious and they'll tell you about serendipity or like these these these magical moments in their lives that they feel is like outside of probability and so it makes them believe that we were we were experiencing something great or something more constructive yeah whatever it was maybe it was magic maybe

it was just coincidence but it i i cried and when she left i was like holy crap and i used that as like a symbol for me to be like i'm on some kind of right path i think people are are like i guess you call them uh pattern recognition machines and when you're thinking something your brain activity is creating a neural pattern yeah whether or the eyes might not perceive it but her brain is perceiving it whether or not you can see it yeah i don't think and then i got to go to her house i saw where vonnegut wrote like i became friends with her you know i'm still talking to her and like i got to see his desk i got to see all this stuff so it was like it blew my mind we got to go to super chats we're a little behind if you haven't already would you kindly smash that like button

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Kardashians. CIA. More of this. Friday night, Sam. I love it. You're like, it really is Friday night, isn't it? Time is a cube. Here we go. Tiberius says, says god we are living in the future ian have you

seen the nuclear diamond batteries or the handheld coil gun god are we in the future it's amazing uh i haven't seen the handheld coil gun but hell yes i've seen the nuclear batteries the nuclear diamond batteries yeah uh i think that there's a bit of leftover nuclear waste that they put inside of diamond, and then it produces – oh, gosh, how does it produce charge? Is it a neutron pulse that it's sending out? Wow. It's sending out some sort of pulse through the diamond, and then the diamond is vibrating and capturing the energy, I believe. It creates a really low-power electrical charge for like 10,000 years. And it's nuclear waste that you use to make the batteries.

Oh, I've heard of that. I think we talked about it before. Yeah could it's a couple years ago it was a breakthrough all right augusto mimo shea says shane a good friend of mine and i want to do an on-site investigation into the myth mythical dulce new mexico alien base you in that sounds like fun yeah what is that dangerous i don't know anything about it but i I'm in. It's really cool how people have submitted weird ghost stories to Shane, and now you're lining up these investigations.

I love the ghost hunter stuff, but I don't like how fake it is. I want real ghost hunters. That's what I say. When I was in this town for Volume 2 of Inverted World, it's kind of known for ghosts, so they know a lot of the ghost hunter types, and they show up with the machines. That's kind of known for ghosts, so they know a lot of the ghost hunter types and they show up with like the whatever, the machines.

And that's not what I do at all. I like the stories and hearing the experiences, but I'm not going to try to prove something because I think it's ridiculous. You'd need to get, there are machines

that can find really low like sensitivity, but you'd need to somehow dampen the outer layer around you like with a Faraday mechanism to not have interference. All right, Tim,

I need a Faraday mechanism. I think I got it. Jeremy, I think the alien scientist can build what we interference. Tim, I need a Faraday mechanism. I think I got it. I think the alien scientists can build. Yeah. I'm gonna hit up Elon. All right. All right. Omega Rossetsu says,

Tim is wrong. It's all about looks for both men and women. Dude gets friend zone because he is not attractive to women. 80% goes for top 20% of men. That's totally not true. Well, that's true of dating apps. Sure, sure. When it's superficial.

But this story I'm telling you about this guy, bro, I know short little Weasley dudes who got all the ladies because they're powerful men, because they figured out how to succeed, how to dominate conversations. Confidence. Yeah, how to dominate conversations. Confidence. Yeah, all of that stuff. A very traditionally aesthetically attractive man will become extraordinarily unattractive

to a woman if he behaves like a coward. Well, so there's a – I think this was the science of sex, this thing they did on HBO a long time ago. They had women rate a bunch of men on a scale of 1 to 10, and then they took the pictures and they showed them to women on the street and said, how would you rate this man? And sure enough, the average score the man got was around the same score the woman on the street would give him. So this guy in like a flannel shirt with like chiseled in a beard and he looks tall. They're like, oh, he's a 9. He's a 9.

They then took these things and added biographical information. And that same guy who was a nine, they wrote that he was a theater manager who made $35,000 a year. And the women rated him a seven. They took the guy who was rated a four and they said he was a computer software engineer who made 600,000 a year. And they rated him a seven. So like that stuff matters to women for obvious reasons. Yeah.

They want genetic superiority for their children. And if they think that you can get them money and safety with your personality, you're going to be much more attractive. It's success. It's like this is safe and important. The success of the man's status is more attractive. For guys, it's like, can she reproduce? Yeah. I mean, it's like the idea that it just looks for men is completely, I mean, completely, completely false. It's not true. It's bimodal for guys. It's not all looks, but it's mostly

looks. And for women, it's, it's, it's not mostly looks, but looks do matter. Yeah. It looks mad. I mean, it looks matter. Like it looks to get you in the door. It definitely matter, but it's also like, can we have a family like healthy? Can we raise kids in this really absurd world? Like, are you competent? Are you socially? Are you basically competent? If you're a complete slob, then you're not. I was such a loser nerd in high school. And as soon as I got to college, I started acting.

And as soon as I got a good role and did a good job on stage, I got the hottest girlfriend. I got to give a slow clap to Courtesy on this one. He super chats, if Uncle Ben had a gun, as per the Second Amendment, he probably would be alive. But they lived in New York and Ben probably couldn't carry a gun legally and now Peter lives with guilt. Bravo!

That hit the nail on the head. That actually is correct. I would love to see Spider-Man be like, I fail to see where that's my problem. And then he walks outside and hears a gunshot and he goes, Uncle Ben. And Uncle Ben's like, I got him, son.

We're good. End of story. That would be legit. The armed criminal pulls out a gun to try and steal his car and Ben just is like, nope. It's like, it's my right to defend myself. And then Spider-Man's like, wow. But then Ben says the same thing.

Son, with great power comes great responsibility. That'd be awesome. If I had let that man go who was armed and trying to kill people, who knows? He could have killed somebody's uncle. Right. And then Spider-Man just becomes a Second Amendment advocate all of a sudden. Yeah. I love it.

Bruce Wayne's parents could have done it, too. That's his hero's journey. Yeah. Yeah. You know what we need to do? We need to do skits of superhero origin stories, but their parents had guns. Because how many origin stories are like, the kid got orphaned?

It's like a Disney movie. Uncle Ben pulls a gun. What was Bruce Wayne's dad's name? Tom. Thomas Wayne. I was going to say John Wayne. Thomas Wayne. It's a scene where the guy's like,

give me your money. He goes, be cool. I'm grabbing my wallet. Bang! Superman. And he goes, and that son is why you're carrying it and then the end of the story is Bruce Wayne just becomes a normal big law litigator just a normal rich kid turned big law litigator

the end I need to like commission somebody to actually make these shorts that'd be hilarious he just beats his whole hair. Yeah, actually, we could look at tons of origin stories and just correct them with sane policies so they don't happen. Right, yeah. The whole traumatic event doesn't happen,

and then they end up living some normal, boring life. The Joker story is actually really simple, too. He gets good health care from a good doctor with a proper health system, and then he just lives a normal life. Right. Has like three kids. Becomes a psychotic. What other tragic origin stories can we fix?

Well, Superman, the dad could get like a bazooka and blow up the asteroid. I don't know. Maybe they could use some giant weapon, space weapon that they've been building to blow up the asteroid and save the planet. The Krypton was destroyed because... Was it an asteroid? Well, depending on which iteration of it, it was that they were overdeveloping and had destroyed the planet's

core or something like that. So that could be environmentalism, I guess. But it's not as funny as Thomas Wayne pulling a gun. Yeah, humans. Or Uncle Ben being armed. That was great, dude. Here it is. Bravo. Uncle Ben being armed. That was great. He carried his Bravo. Uncle Ben just shooting the guy

before he shoots him. He's like, remember son, this is why we carry. Spider-Man then, instead of making web shooters, he just brings guns with him. Yeah, it's a western now.

Yeah. Yes. I'm into that. Perfect. All right. Fabian Alvarez says, Tim, did you guys see the huge drug bust in Florida?

Drugs flying from LAX in bags, unhidden in domestic flights to Florida. What? Well, I'm confident Ron DeSantis is going to clean up those streets, man. We need to go full Singapore. I'm getting more and more hardcore. I used to be so anti-war on drugs,

and now I'm going to the opposite position. Yeah, but not Singapore. I'm not, you know... Not weed singapore kills but like the drugs i mean one of the points they made it i i had never actually heard this articulated very well like think about like a fentanyl dealer and like how many deaths they cause as a result of their dealing like way more than a single murder yeah are they is that a violent act because if you sell someone a drug that kills them are you then killing them i mean

i kind of think you are yeah i kind of i mean i think you're you're morally culpable right like you're selling someone an addictive substance that will like eventually that eventually kills some very large percentage of them right like i would say that you're morally culpable right yeah with fentanyl for sure you know and so you know that's that's the position of singapore they're like and unless we have are this draconian otherwise we have mass drug use it's just do they draw the line in certain drugs? How do they define drugs? Basically, it's the death penalty for certain trafficking amounts. Above a certain amount, it's a trafficking amount, and that's the death penalty. What's the amount?

It depends on the drug, right? Oh, yeah. That's probably a very small amount. For heroin, it's extremely small. I think it makes more moral sense from Singapore's perspective. They're a small country, and they just have warnings. When you come into Singapore, they're like, we have, I mean, I think it makes more moral sense from, I guess, from Singapore's perspective. They're a small country and they just have warnings. Like when you come into Singapore, they're like, we have the death penalty for drug trafficking. Don't even think about it.

Try it. Right. Selena Kyle, that's Catwoman, isn't it? Yeah. Says, speaking of Kardashians just amassing wealth and not doing enough, what's enough? Kim is working on getting men out of prison, willing to meet up with Trump to advocate for her cause and went to law school. Is that enough? Yes.

I totally agree. I wasn't saying, I should clarify in case it came off, in case I did say that. I'm not saying she wasn't. I'm talking about there are a lot of people who just amass wealth and don't do anything, but that is respectable. She worked on criminal justice reform.

Rideshare programs, I think. People getting out of jail, she was hooking up a program for them to get car rides to job interviews. Also awesome. But I will stress too, jail she was hooking up a program for them to get car rides to job interviews you know also awesome but but but i will stress too like maybe it's better that some people don't do anything because otherwise you get like a mackenzie bezos who puts two billion dollars into what yeah some people should just take their money and you know spend it on rich people things

like their judgment is a good cause is just not good enough yeah let's see what we got casey 91 says hey guys from australia love all your work and listen What is a good cause is just not good enough. Yeah. Let's see what we got. KC91 says, Hey guys from Australia, love all your work and listen every day while I'm working. Keep it up. Ian, you always make me look at things from a different angle,

even if I don't agree. That's it. Perfect. You won. But the danger is always doing it. You got to find balance. Sometimes you want to look at it straight ahead. Yeah. It's easy to dance off the cliff of sanity sometimes.

Yeah. Being too open-minded and your brain will fall out. r says in the internet age we're going to have to have to be more accepting we're going to have to be more accepting of politicians being real whether that's a 36 year old partying or someone having crap opinions on twitter at 16 that You know, I get that, though, but when that Finnish Prime Minister was, like, booty dancing and stuff, apparently the guy kissing her in the dance isn't her husband. Like, there's a lot going on there. And the other thing is

we do have to expect people to be more real, but you'll never see a video of me doing that. Well, never say never. Everyone just said, oh, shucks i mean like taking off the beanie and getting sweaty come on i do goofy stuff and we'll probably film stuff with with cast castle but my point is that when you're looking for a leader there are people right now who are might might goof off a little bit in that way but world leaders tend to be very steadfast

and serious or at least that's what we expect. I was talking about this in a segment earlier. Everyone's partying in the city with the city lights going off, and the soldiers at the city walls are standing steadfast to make sure everyone's safe. And that's the person you want leading your country, to make sure you're safe as you're dancing, not to have the leader go off and go dancing when Russia's knocking on your door with nuclear weapons. Yeah, your military commander should not be getting drunk with the troops. Yeah, I actually think about that. Think about if you were just a random soldier in the Finnish military, what you'd think of seeing the head of the government acting this way,

especially with you just joined NATO. Russia's threatening a nuclear deployment on your border? There's a lack of seriousness there that I would be annoyed by if I were serving. Is she the head of their military? I don't know if they have the same sort of commander-in-chief structure, but I assume... I mean, she's the head of government.

I assume the government would declare war if they ever went to war. The government is responsible for setting the rules of the draft and the rules of their service. Roberto Lara says, so what Tim is saying is the billionaires

are building doomsday bunkers and becoming dual citizens to dare I say evading the tax the rich phrase bro it is crazy how the rich get away with not paying taxes yeah they don't need to go to New Zealand and set up a thing to not pay taxes they just don't pay taxes

but it's like there's I really do feel like there's no real way to solve the issue of like getting people who have massive amounts of wealth to pay taxes. I'm not talking about wealth tax garbage. That makes no sense. There's an issue of just how, when you have a ton of money, how you can structure it to where you don't pay money on the income generated, be it capital gains or otherwise. Like the Panama Papers, for instance.

We know it. I'm not a fan of taxes, though, so I'm not entirely sure, like, if the solution is just give the money to the government. I'm not opposed to a taxation system if the government wasn't overtly corrupt. So, you know, I'm not going to pretend to have the answers. I'm just going to sit on the fence. How about that? It'd be cool if the government was like, here's what we need, and then we paid for that with the taxes, as opposed to them being like, this is how much money we need. Then they don't even tell you what it's for. Yeah.

Where's it going? Justify it. Yeah. It's like all the taxes I was paying in New York. I don't know where they went. The infrastructure was terrible. Crazy taxes, too. Terrible.

Crazy Savior says Lex Friedman had an intriguing conversation with Donald Hoffman about the nature of reality consciousness and the future of science and physics truly mind-bending stuff that's what we got to get going with the Inverted World podcast yeah originally it was just a podcast

yeah or it was actually like articles in a podcast but now that we've like kind of changed it we are like we need a more podcast element of conversations about this stuff

instead of the storytelling stuff we did do a great series of members only interviews and Ian was my first guest and it was amazing. We should do that again. Yeah. Well, once Tim locks me in the haunted house again, you're free to go get locked in whenever you want, bro.

I've seen it. We're going to do it soon so you'll be back. And yeah, Donald Hoffman's pretty cool. He's got some pretty freaky ideas about reality and observation. One cool thing too is that we have the music video for our song Only Ever Wanted, which is like 90% done. The ad for it is up in Times Square. Shane is the star, along with his wife, Nancy, and she's the star of the song Art itself.

Yeah, it's wild. So we locked him in a haunted house and then filmed him fighting with his wife. Yeah, he made me fight my wife. It's like the Joker scene. He broke a pool stick. I wasn't there. I told my henchman, make him fight his wife. And then he came to suffer.

Then make her cry. Yeah, you'll see. You'll see. I want that. It's the video. It looks awesome. The song is really cool. Worth it.

Yeah, totally worth it. We're still fighting now. We couldn't even figure out the genre. It's like a weird pop and also rock, but it's like two different songs almost. It's like the same song, but we've had a tremendous response for it, so I'm excited. We'll see what happens. It's like very emotional kind of pop song, I guess. I don't know.

I hate even using genres. I hate thinking of them. I know it's like the easy route, but for me, that song is just catchy. It's been stuck in my head a lot. So that's why it's a good thing. We should show it. Well, we'll wait.

Once it launches, we'll show it on the show. Yeah, because the way... We want to have an impact on the culture, so we were hoping that it charts and does all that normal stuff. Like, you know, John Rich's Progress hit number one on iTunes for like eight days or whatever. He was Billboard, I think, Billboardboard top 65 which is huge in the hot

100 i think it was hot 165 that's massive yeah that's great so you know we're hoping that we can start building culture and then you know what i see with the daily wire when they do this stuff they just hired a disney executive and a lot of people were like you better explain why you're doing this and i'm like bro this amazing. They work for them now. Brilliant. Like, the executives of Disney are going to work for conservative guys. Like, that's called winning. Yeah.

Like, you're absorbing all of that. I think it's fantastic. It's like Operation Paperclip when the Nazis took all the Nazi scientists. Good job, guys. It did benefit the U.S. It sure did. Yeah. It did.

Use those rockets to get to the moon, if it's even there. All right. Mike Gibson says Art Bell on his show did an experiment where he had all his listeners focus on different things and every time what they were focusing on happened that's coast to coast I don't know about that episode but that's cool but what happened like how do you do that

can we do that somehow I'm going to start that what should we have people focus on like world peace world peace there you go getting focus on? Like world peace? Yeah. Yeah. World peace. There you go. Getting Trump elected.

Which is world peace. Well, we hope it is. Certainly not if you like Biden. I want to do a group meditation. We tried this in 2007, but the infrastructure wasn't there. But to do a live video stream where we all got on and we all meditated together with our video cameras up. And it was just, we tried to do it on stickum.com, but it couldn't handle more than 20 people at a time. We had like hundreds and hundreds,

maybe even, I don't know how many. But we could do that again. Let's do it. The infrastructure's getting to the point where we could have like 10,000 people in a video chat getting there. We'll turn off HAARP. Yeah, turn off HAARP.

Yeah. Or turn on HAARP. Or turn, yeah. Interesting. All right, Soleil Cucumber Lime says, I used to be homeless. I was taught the magic. It's definitely real.

You see what you look for. The secret is that it's always been there. Awesome. Congrats on that. Cool. We should get everybody to focus on something. I don't know. YouTube apologizing to Steven Crowder.

Yeah. Everybody just imagine in your mind YouTube removing the stripe from Crowder's channel and apologizing, admitting they were wrong. Fifty lashes to themselves. Reversing their policies on censorship. I mean, that doesn't – Imagine the FBI being disbanded. All right, all right.

Okay. The thing about Crowder that's crazy is it was Carrie Lakes that made comments about the election. She's the GOP primary candidate for governor. What she says is of paramount importance since election and they took it down what so I imagine I didn't see the episode but that Steve just didn't push back I don't I don't know I don't know it's just if you make the claims or whatever I guess if someone makes a claim like you got to push back on it on TV otherwise YouTube's like ah they're promoting it and you're like no but it's but but what she said wasn't even about the like

Trump she was talking about Arizona's I don't. But what she said wasn't even about Trump. She was talking about Arizona. I don't know exactly what was said, but either way, it shouldn't matter. Someone who is going to potentially be the governor is saying things. I'll tell you this.

If the fear is those ideas would hurt Republicans, then YouTube's helping Republicans, I guess, because now the moderates aren't going to be hearing those things and the Democrats will struggle to use it as a weapon.

All right. Sleep is the cousin of death says, good things happen to me equals magic, aka narcissism. But I'll go one step further. They weren't just saying like all these good things happen to me. It must be magic. They were saying like I have chosen for a thing to happen to me and it did. With acting, you notice it in the entertainment industry a lot. It's more sensitive because your mood when you go into the audition

is a big part of whether or not you get the role and if you believe you're going to get it and you have that like confidence and friendliness to you they love you and they want to they want you there yep ivan ortiz says tim you didn't hear it from me but it seems ghost girl is a fed who opposes returning carts when she shops she failed the test so that's uh that's mary morgan co-host of pop culture crisis so the trick is whenever you're going to hire someone what you do is you invite them out to hang out to meet everybody and then you say we're going to run to the grocery store and pick up some drinks and you know some soda and some pizzas maybe and then when you go you bring you you bring the shopping cart unload

it and then you wait to see if they put it back and if they don't you don't hire them that's great test that's the i always return the cart yeah but but we ride on i run and i jump on it and ride it yeah it's fun we were we were talking about this once with someone we were looking to hire like as a joke not seriously doing it and then with like as we were walking to the car and like joking like oh yeah i remember the thing about the shopping cart and then with like as we were walking to the car and like joking like oh yeah i remember the thing about the shopping cart and then the dude actually just returned the shopping cart we all started laughing because we were like we didn't we weren't seriously considering doing that but i will say though like that actually is a good test is this person willing to do a little

bit extra without reward because it's the right thing to do i think about that picking up garbage too if you're walking on the street you see like a rapper just pick it up i actually actually talked about this in another interview a few years ago because I'm always thinking about it. I always return the cart. And then I got some backlash from mothers who say when they're in the parking lot and they feel a little uncomfortable, sometimes to keep their kids safe from whatever nefarious things might be in their periphery, they just leave the cart wherever. Well, you know, sometimes I grab a couple other carts and I'll return three of them. Dang. So you're making up for those. Go above other carts and I'll return three of them. Dang. So you're making up for those.

Go above and beyond. I like that. They should pay you. Those that cannot do, I will do for them. Anonymous Steve says, Tim, thank you kindly. Bioshock vibes. That's literally why I say, would you kindly? Because I'm commanding you to do it.

So I guess the people who know Bioshock, when I say, would you kindly smash the like button? Oh, funny. I'm trying to force you to do it. Oh, you're manifesting it. Hulk smash. Do you guys know the reference to Bioshock? You have smashed the like button? I didn't watch it. It was a video game.

Oh, okay. I thought it was a cartoon. It's like based off of, it's like the art and ideas of Ayn Rand into this kind of game. Okay. It's such a masterpiece. You really should play. Have you seen it? Which game?

Bioshock. Oh, I've heard it. Oh, I've heard of it. Yeah, I've heard of it. So it's like a city built underwater called Rapture, and it's like objectivist society, basically. It's just amazing. But it's a very, very old game, so spoiler alert for whatever reason. But throughout the game, there's a guy talking to you over a communications device, and he says, Would you kindly, whenever the game shifts to like um

the player loses control he's like would you kindly pull that lever for me and things like that where you have to do it and it's because you're mind controlled when he says would you kindly it's a command that forces you to do it so when i say would you kindly smash the like button it's mind control yeah right it's it's a gag i mean most people don't know the reference wouldn't think anything wouldn't think twice alright we'll just grab a couple more of these super chats if it's working

because YouTube keeps crashing on us and I don't know why I do the manifestation where I'll be like you subscribed to the channel you liked it you liked the video as well

and then you just let it roll check this out Le Courier des Bois Des Bois says Tim previously you were talking about Book It

and how you got ads without searching for it. I never did either, and the day after watching your show, I started getting Book It ads like you did. Love y'all from Quebec. So you remember Book It from Pizza Hut? Not Pizza Hut, but like in school, you get the little Book It wheel,

and if you read the book, you get like a free donut, and you get a pizza. You don't remember this? No, it was a weird thing. so it didn't happen you know jack talks jack talks about pizza nationalism and we were talking about how they had the book at program where if you finish the book report you got a wheel and had coupons on it and then my parents told me don't get done i got a free donut we go to pizza you get the free personal pizza

and then the next day i was it was pand actually. I was playing music when I was skating and an ad popped up and in big blue letters it said Book It. And I was like, what? Book It doesn't exist anymore or at least as far as I know

it doesn't. And this ad was for a travel company that said Book It. I'm like, whatever is spying on me didn't understand what Book It was and assumed it was a travel thing.

It tried. Yeah. Unless, you know, people think our devices are spying on us. Some have said it's just the algorithm predicting our behavior or it could be that we live in a simulation.

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Awesome. I am Shane Cashman everywhere, Instagram, Twitter. And you can follow Tales from the Inverted World. We got the first two episodes of Ghosts of the Civil War up on YouTube. And the first episode is on our Facebook at Tales from the Inverted World. And the rest first two episodes of Ghosts of the Civil War up on YouTube and the first episode is on our Facebook at Tales from the Inverted World. And the rest is on TimCast.com. We're on episode seven right now.

And it's a blast. I'm really proud of our team. They're killing it. And looking forward to the next volume, which I've already started. We need to get the mobile apps. And I know this is the big hurdle for us because we've been talking with some OTT developers about – we've got – a bunch of people have hit us up about making the app. This is the best show for when you're driving home late at night or you're on a road trip and you just play every episode and it's just like –

Yeah. That was one of the best comments we've gotten. It was like someone drove from LA to Vegas to vegas listening to inverted world that's amazing but this is this is what i was thinking when i was like we got to do something like this because i remember when i went on a road trip that's all i want to do is play ghost stories yeah call-in shows like you know stuff like that yeah i was like we need something like that yeah no it's been exciting this is great i'm really proud of this season and i'm looking forward to doing the next podcast well i, I'm Ian Crossland.

Oh, sorry. No, hey, don't even worry, Shane. I'm more excited about the Tales from the Inverted World than working on it with you. Yeah, no, that was fun. Please check out that interview. It's on TimCast. It was a lot of fun. Ladies and gentlemen, you are liking this video.

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